Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - Full Show — January 26, 2026

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

Leila Rahimi and Marshall Harris reflected on legendary Score host Terry Boers' legacy after he passed away Friday.

This hour is brought to you by Menards. Save big money at Menards. You call the sports radio 6-7 to score. Terry Moore's Brian Hanley. I have an induction. You seem resigned to the fate after the game, that there wasn't much fire in you, and you sort of stood up before the media and said,

well, you know, this is the way it is. Are you resigned to this fate? You're the same guy that wrote about me when I did have the fire. That was the wrong thing to do. So who you crap? Well, I'm just asking. You just went to have an injury last year during the season and kind of shut me back.

But it didn't bother you say before last year's training camp began because that was the rumor that you knew you were hurting and that you came and tried anyway. Not to my recollection. So it was all accumulated during last season. I believe we had a bad connection. Do they sell crack door to door? Yeah, but who said this?

Who said this? Just like Les is calling you giving traffic courts. A texter said that? You know why? Because Les carries the button, man. In the afternoon when I would drive back to the city, Boers and Burstein, right? That was the show. So I got my fill of that, and they made my hour-long drives memorable, memorable, right?

Well, we banned a little bit of the creamy. It's creamy. You're flying boars, and everybody gets peanuts, and if you have an allergy and die, we just... Screw you. Stop flying. Your comfort is not more important than the other 140 people on the plane. Now we're talking. Lizard bastard.

Get off the plane. Go somewhere else. Hey, me do this. Then don't take her out a plane. Drive, ass face. So my favorite thing that's happened in the three hours that we've been here is watching Terry and Layla talk. Like just seeing the two of you interact because you're the two people that have done the most with the least. Well, you know already, don't you?

I'm grateful to them. Being so kind to me today. I appreciate that. And I appreciate that. As I've said before, and I wrote that without guys like these and women like, there's no show, there's no Bordenstein, nothing happens. So they're the ones, you know, they already say they're grateful to me. No, I'm grateful to you. So how do I say goodbye?

I leave feeling great about what's happened in the last 25 years to this station and better yet about what the future is. Because I used to worry about the future. I used to think what happens. What happens now when all of the old veterans are gone and we're all done? I don't worry anymore. I don't give it a second thought. There's plenty to go around here, and there will continue to be at this station. How do we? This is Rahimi Harrison Grotty on 670 The Score, and it is a day where, like this past weekend,

we don't have a lot of words for a man who knew how to speak with or without them. Terry Boers, an absolute legend of this station, 25 years. passed away on Friday at the age of 75. We heard our news from Mitch Rosen, our station vice president, who is here now with us. Mitch, thanks for joining us today. Layla Marshall, good morning, and Tyler and Ray putting that piece of art together, just beautiful, sad but beautiful. And Terry, everything you've heard about him on the air and off the air and in our hallways,

I mean, it's poignant that I'm looking out the window here in our studio and seeing Terry Borders way. He was terrific. He was a legend. He was one of the founding on-air people at the score. January 2nd, 1992 on Belmont Avenue. For those that don't know, the score was a daytime station. The sun would go down and turn the station off. Could you imagine, you know, a Bears Packers Monday, you're all excited.

And at, for instance, 442 in the afternoon, well, we got to shut it down. There was no streaming, you know, dating ourselves. But he was just incredible, an incredible person. He cared about people. He took young producers, young on-ear hosts under his wings. A great father, four sons, a lovely wife, Carol, who I've been in touch with, you know, since Friday. I'll tell a quick story. Terry and I stayed in touch a lot.

And we would either email or call around Christmas, just sent him an email. How you doing? response, not totally unusual. And then Friday morning, this past Friday around 930, I sent him a text, hey, how are you doing? And his son Joe called me and said, my dad's in hospice. And hospice, you know, I didn't expect that. And he goes, we don't expect here to last much longer. And at 1.30, he called me and said he had passed. But he was the scorer. And I don't think any of us, you know, the station would be as powerful as it is today without Terry Boy. course. It's interesting to listen to all the people who have weighed in since his passing,

and it gives you the indication of how much he meant beyond the station itself and really not just even in Chicago, but his impact was everywhere, and it still resounds in people who never even met the man, right? Right. I mean, there's a radio host in Nashville, Chris Childers, who's from the Chicago area. He put out like a hundred and five, 5,200 words on why he's in the business because of Terry. And then electronic media, Tony Kornheiser, you know, from ESPN, said Terry kind of set the movement of print journalists moving over to TV and radio because of Terry Boers. Terry Boers' sense of humor was unmatched.

You know, it's inspired, I think, generations of people around the country when it comes to Boers and Bernstein, especially in how they impacted. I said this before, I'll say it again. They were my inspiration's inspiration. You might be surprised as to how that reach affects people you don't even know. Terry, I think, knew that better than anybody. You know, his humility paired with his sense of humor and paired with his wit and his knowledge was one of a kind, to say the absolute least.

The hard part about all of this is he created such a community, Mitch. And the good part of that is we all got to learn and spend time with him together. and play old audio together and learn about the thumbprint that he has left. The hard part is that we all grieve this together. Yeah, the audience. And Layla, you know, remember we had a celebration at real time, and you were part of that and saw the interaction with you and him. And we talked about you.

He listened, and he respected what you brought to the score. And he, you know, in that open, he, you know, he said he worried at times about the future, but then he didn't and you looked at people in Lawrence who started as a producer and has grown to a top personality in the country and Speegs and others and it just, you know, it's what the score does. And the listeners, the outpouring, Steve Rosenblum on Saturday did a show and, you know, a lot of callers. And it's just a community that the score has built. And listeners don't always agree with topics. and, you know, hosts, but it's a community.

There was a phrase years ago, scoreheads, and I truly believe it's the brand, and it's the people that are on this brand, like both of you and all our shows, and this brand is special, and Terry made it special over the years. It feels like I feel his presence after not getting the opportunity to work with him,

because every day I sit in the seat, and I look through that window, and it's honorary Terry Boer's way, And it just kind of sits as this foundational stone of what this station has become. How difficult is it for you personally just weighing like the idea that you're obviously honoring his life, but also celebrating it? I think that's the thing. It's the balance of trying to deal with the pain of it all. But at the same time, the legacy is real.

Yeah. You know, it's funny. So Speaks Tannie and I. Russ, Matera, our creative production boys, and Ryan Porth, we're on this text chain. And it's like, we're reaching out to people and booking people for tomorrow. And I called Speegs. I said, it feels kind of weird. Like, this is kind of fun. And he goes, it should be. We're celebrating Terry. And we're booking guests and former coworkers. And Tanny, I call Tanny. Like, I'm, like, everybody's hurting, right? Like, everybody had a special relationship with Terry. It's emotional,

but it also feels good putting this together. And again, I've been in touch with the family every step of the way, and they feel good about this. Terry did not want a funeral. Those were his wishes. But something like this, they said he would love this. So when you ask that, everybody's mourning, everybody mourns in different ways.

We know that. But to put together, I think tomorrow, what people are going to enjoy between noon and 7 p.m., you're going to hear voices you haven't heard in years. You're going to hear current voice. voices, you're going to hear unbelievable production of former elements from the shows in the past that Tanny and Russ are working on. We're excited.

But again, it was kind of weird. When I called Speegs, and it goes, no, we should enjoy this. And I think we should enjoy this. That's what a celebration of life is, right? Yes, it is. And I think honoring Terry's wishes is the best thing that we can do. So tomorrow from 12 to 7 p.m. right here on the score. we will have a remembrance of Terry Boers.

Honoring an original Terry Boar's celebration of life. And as you mentioned, yes, a lot of former co-hosts will be a part of this. Please listen to what I am trying to say. But I think that that's the important thing. Terry was celebrated by everyone. And I laughed because the conversation that Lawrence was talking about in Tyler Bueberbaugh's wonderfully prepared open. Was Terry and I talking about his audio that wet, had set up for him.

The little guys. Yeah, Wex had set up his home audio in Florida, and he was super excited about it. But that's it. You know, he's inviting, it wasn't just an act. Like, Wex is the one setting up his audio, the states away. Like, he was dedicated to that. And that was how he became a part of this. And if you haven't gotten to read some of the stories yet that Matt Spiegel has written

and that Chris Tanna Hill has written, they talk about the 30th, anniversary celebration, for example. When I first started with Dan, Terry was kind enough to come on a few times. I know Marshall, you've been a part of when Terry's been on. And it's been fantastic. And part of what made the 30th anniversary party so fun was just listening. You know, that was a reunion of Terry and Dan and Matt about a Cola came in. And Chris Tannahill was just standing there listening. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. I want to get to listen to this now knowing what I know. And Tanna got to be a part of it. He details that in his call him. He also talks about what Terry meant to him in his life. And I think that's a part of this. Terry, having been at the score for 25 years, he was a part of everybody's life. And we do want people to call in today. I think it's the right thing to do. So 312, 644, 67, we've already gotten a lot of texts. Our Twitch mob as well is chiming in in their chat, twitch.tv.tv slash Chicago 670 to score. But this is the time to remember him and say what you want to say, because I know he meant so much to so many, for him to come out battling his health issues for us,

for that party, and you wouldn't even know he had missed a step. That was such a mark that was left on me as to just who he was as a person, if we needed more proof, which we don't. I agree. Just see him that day, and again, I was fortunate that we would see each other a couple times a year, but he loved being part of this station. He loved being part of this brand. He'd love. talking to people. We, you know, we try to once a year get a group of people together for dinner, and those are special. It was, you know, it could be Russ, it could be Tanny, it could be Bernstein, Jason, Lawrence, and we'd laugh. There'd be some, a little crying along the way, and there's this restaurant Terry lived in Mokina. He's very open about that. And there's this old school kind

of supper club called Mr. Benny's, and we're going in a private room, and it was great. And, you know, at the end, we'd always take a picture. And those memories were, I can't stop thinking about those nights. And they were just special. And like I said, we'd go around the table, almost like life updates. What happened in your life this year? And, you know, people, you know, not every, we know it's life, right? Stuff happens in life, good and bad.

And it was all about, the only reason we got together and we should get together more is because of Terry. that was a common denominator, and that's something we'll never forget. Do you have a favorite Terry Boar's moment that you personally relish, or is it just too many to count? Yeah, mine are like the one-on-ones. I'd say even, you know, post-score going over to his house and just, you know, he'd ask me about my life and the station, and he was so proud of his grandchildren, and he'd talk about his grandchildren, and this one's doing this and sports, and Carol, his wife, we'd talk. So I get my fondest memories are not even work-related.

It was just about personal life. You know, how you doing? And we'd sit down and talk in his living room and the dinners. And to me, that's my takeaway. Work was great. He was so good at what he did and how he treated people. And again, you mentioned Tanny's article, Lela, on our website. That really hit home with me.

That was work. Tanny talked about him, teaching him. how to be a good father, that was really special. We're talking to Mitch Rosen right now, our supervisor, the vice president here at 670 to 4. Technically, that is the truth. Okay. I believe you were the one who hired the both of us, the last day check, about what's going on here today. We do want to hear from you.

This is a time for you guys to mourn with us as much as anything. 312, 64, 64, 67, we will take your calls in the next segment. and if you want to share your stories and he has made the announcement that tomorrow from 12 to 7 here on the score we are going to have a celebration of Terry Boer's life. What inspired you guys when it was you

and Chris Tan Hill and Matt Spiegel who will be hosting that show and Russ Matera when you wanted to put it all together what meant a lot to you about how you guys did this? Obviously respect but have fun with it bring on the right hosts that were impactful in Terry's career in life and we'll have fans

family members on at the end of the show. But play back some great audio, some great fun memories, have caller, you know, listener interaction, and bring that all together, a true celebration of somebody that's so special to our audience and to people in the country. So we've been working the phones. I love old school producing Tanny Speegs and I and putting this together. So those are the elements that, you know, we're doing. And again, great involvement from Terry's family. And it's just going to be special. And putting that all together, we think the listeners and all of our SCORE family will really enjoy it.

I reached out to Julie Swika today, who worked here early on in such a sweet person. And without even saying, can you? She said, yes. People are excited to be part of this. And it'd be great. If you haven't had a chance to properly get what you feel like you need, you do need to go to 670 TheScore.com and read what was penned by both Matt Spiegel and Christian Anahill, both beautiful, really, I don't know if I call a eulogy, but just an honorarium

of what he meant to each of them individual, and you get a real sense of the effects that you don't see necessarily on the air, but as you mentioned, Mitch, it's the behind the scenes and off the air that carries just as much and really even more weight. Yeah, and here's one other quick note. There are a lot of people maybe that didn't listen or didn't know him. There's people at our cluster of stations here, even in sales. People come from other markets. And I sent a note out today with Tanny's audio montage from the anniversary and some of the articles.

And I've received a lot of email. I wish I would have known him or I wish I was here to listen to him. And I think, you know, when you leave a funeral and you didn't know the person who passed away, but there was a good eulogy given or, you know, in the Catholic Church, a good homily or a rabbi. And you walk away and go, man, I really got to know that person. without knowing that person, I think that's really key. And obviously, so many people knew Terry. But if you listen tomorrow and you never listen to Terry on the ear and you walk away going,

God, that was great. I think that's our goal tomorrow. What was working with him like being, as I mentioned, you're our supervisor? What was that like with Terry? Great. Great communication, talk. We never had an issue. I'm thinking back over all the years.

I've been here 20 plus years. So I came in 2005, always communication. Like, you know, at a certain point in his career, he goes, hey, I want to see my grandkids play Little League or do activities. Do you mind if I work at home if we put machinery in? And there was never a question. You know, we were always flexible with each other and always accommodating. There may have been some people like, no, you've got to come to the studio every day.

I was like, you know, if it sounds okay, and we're always honest with the audience. We never said, always downtown. I remember there was a thunderstorm. storm one day and he was off the air and Bernstein came, what should we say to people? Well, he's at his home studio in Mokina and there's thunderstorms. You know, let's be honest. So we always had great communication and I remember real quick we used to do what we Budweiser sponsored at the Who Needs to Tavern Tour.

And it was like 40 remotes a year. That's a lot of remote. So I sat down with Dan and Terry. I go, this is going to be big. Obviously, it's a great sales opportunity. But in my heart of hearts, I think it's good. grassroots marketing. We're going to be at different bars and things. And at first, oh, that's a lot of remotes. But I think looking back on it, I think they would both say to this day, that really

helped. You know, we got out in the community, live broadcast, and it really works. So, you know, those type of things. Like anything else in life and in work, if you communicate and you're honest and you're up front, you have a good relationship with people. Terry was authentic. There's no doubt about that. Very much so. We miss him. And we will be celebrating his life today appropriately. As I've mentioned, we've gotten a lot of calls and texts. 312, 644, 67, 67. I want to let you guys talk and tell us what you want to say about Terry Boers today. Mitch, thank you for doing so. Thanks for joining us. Thank you both. And thanks for talking about Terry. And we appreciate you both being here. Thank you. Thanks, Mitch. That's Mitch Rosen. He is our supervisor here at the score.

he is the vice president and as he made the announcement earlier in case you missed it it was terry's wishes to not have a funeral so we are having a celebration of life here on the score tomorrow from 12 to 7 Matt spiegel will be hosting and if you have a question about who might be on I think you should probably listen so we remember terry boers on rehimi harrison grotie next we will take your calls 312 646767 Rahimi Harrison Grody, midday's 10 a.m. to 2 on Chicago Sports Radio 670 The Score. I'd make a quick recommendation. For those of you out there, we love the fact that you listen. And if you really enjoy the fact that we what we do to callers, particularly the dumb ones, don't call in.

This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670 The Score. And it is a heavy day for many reasons. And one big one is the passing of Terry Boers, as we learned on Friday night. We got the word from Mitch Rosen. Terry hosted here on 670 The Score for 25 years. And before that, he was a writer with the Sun Times and a titan of our sports world. And I don't think that any of us sit here at a successful score station if it's not for Terry, among others. And that's what makes this so hard. He was a part of us even when we didn't necessarily know. I think the word Titan, like when you think of like Titans of Industry is sometimes overused or loosely used. But I think it aptly describes a man who had such a transcendent career because he was one of

the first to switch from print journalism to broadcast media in this radio station. And the success he had led to other people doing it. And then he just became a sort of sports soundtrack for a generation of sports fans here in Chicago. So we decided I'm not going to speak for you. Marshall's not going to speak for you. You are going to speak for you. 312-644-67 is our number. We broadcast through the Scores Hyundai Studios brought to you by your local Hyundai dealers.

As we mentioned, this is Rahimi Harrison Grotie. Tyler Buterbaugh, if you guys were wondering, put together the tribute that we heard earlier today. I think we should bring it back because that's the right thing to do later in our show. Ray Diaz is our producer. Brandon Fryer helps us out as well. I mentioned we are on Twitch. The Twitch mob is chatting. respectfully and remembering Terry as well. It is Twitch.tv slash

Chicago 670 The Score. You can join us there and on YouTube. 670 the score is our address on YouTube. And as I've mentioned, you can call us and text us 312-644-6767. I think it's right to start with Mario and Hyde Park. Mario, how are you today? Hey, guys. It has been a very interesting few weeks in my life. A good friend of mine passed away a couple of weeks ago. His funeral was Friday. And finding out that Terry had passed away on Friday just kind of full-circled it for me.

My admiration for Terry Boers, still from listening to, well, actually, it's from reading his column when I was a much younger person. And being able to meet him and have conversations with him, not going to be. going around and I go, hey, I talked to Terry Boyce today, because some of the stuff I can't repeat, that he said. Being able to meet him and Dan McNeil and beginning to have relationships with folks who work at the school of then and now, it's because of him. He's the linchpin for sports radio. I don't think it's a big secret.

I have a radio show that I do weekly. And it used to kind of make me mad. because the one day of the week I couldn't listen to my favorite show on the score was the day I had to do my job. I patterned a lot of the radio program after what he and Dan Bernstein did. The way to analytically approach sports, how to really get into the minutia without being in the minutia is because of Terry Bois. Being able to handle an interview. when it goes south, like that Jordan interview with. And then quick as it could possibly be done, he goes,

we must have had a misconnection. That type of stuff. You don't teach that. You just have to be able to do it. And Terry Boers was the best at his retirement broadcast, seeing his family there, being able to have an interaction with his family too. It's such an amazingly brilliant, hilariously funny, poignant cat. He was just the best.

And I know it's easy, and then I'm shutting up. I know it's easy to say, don't be sad. But sometimes you're going to be. But there's a phalanx of just hilarious bits, his voice approaching sports, and being able to be unafraid to approach life while talking about sports. Jerry Boers was the best,

and it's a sad time, but I hope people can find light in what he did with his wonderful, wonderful work. Don't shut up, Mario. We like it when you talk. Yeah, we appreciate you sharing it. Shut up. No.

No, you said it well. That's why we took her call first. You know, we appreciate you. You know that. And I think he appreciated the people who listened to the score. He says it, and he said it to us at that ceremony, but he really did, really did like the fact that folks listened. And again, when I see you guys,

I will tell you some of these wonderful stories like the Benigan story. I cannot tell on the air. But what an all-time absolute great, man? Now you're correct. And I think Lawrence put it really, well on Friday when he simply said he was everything to us and you, the listener, were everything to him. And that was a well-put way of saying it. And Mario, I think you did the same.

Thank you for calling today. Thanks, Mario. Thanks. That's Mario in Hyde Park. We continue on the phones. 312-644-67-67. And thanks to everybody who's chimed in, as I mentioned in our Twitch chat and also over text. We've got a lot of text as well.

so I'll try to read some of them when I can. We continue now with Ron on the south side. Ron, you're on Rahimi Harrison Grotie. Good morning. Well, I've been with the station from day one. Last year, I was at a bit with Mully and Hall and Mitch Rosen. Mitch came up and said, Ryan, you know you're in the school hall of things. So I just want to point that out how the people been so nice to the call.

So let me get to Terry Boas. I had a wonderful relationship with him. Mitch talked about the remote. So when I would call, he would be joking, he would be joking, say, the handsome south side around. I don't know who that is, Jerry, but that's what he was like.

All the guys, the thing about it, if you were able to be in his presence, certainly he was the best behind the mic. And there's nobody, I'm not talking about sports. watch for radio. There's no one on the radio. Like with him in Nick Neok, as you know, it's how I started, heavy fuel. But I'll be listening to Mom because I heard all of that.

And like I said, I tried to make sure I made everything, you know, but he's just hands down, hands down, what they call the goat. Boy, will the goat, he will the score. I was inviting to this. But so this is the last thing. I said, I'm like, Mariam, man, you can talk about this guy a long time. But, you know, they invited 30 of us, Fox fans to go up to the game. And the last thing, I remember, yeah, I love you. Of course, Ron.

And that's what it was about. You guys had a relationship, and he built it with you. And most importantly, you were there for him. And that's why this is so big. Everybody who keeps telling us right now, I'm sorry for your loss. No. be sorry for our loss. Let's go to Quad City, Pat, who just called in.

Hi, Pat. Long time. Hey, Long time. I'm glad I'm able to talk. I'm not particularly about this subject. But, you know, Terry was one of those guys where he could be irascible what he wanted to, but he was so gracious in person. I have like just a load of load of great memories of meeting him and Dan at remotes and, you know, the 1500s show. My wife and I went to that dinner party and stuff, and that was a lot of fun.

But the one thing that stuck out of my mind, after my daughter, Grace, was born in 2006, we went to a remote in early 2007 at a Buffalo Wild Wings out there, took her with us. And Terry was just, like, the nicest, gentlest, like with my kid who was, you know, infant at a bar, which, you know, that was probably not the best I'd. in the world, but whatever.

Whoops, yeah. But, you know, he was just wonderful about it, and he kind of gave me some advice, and, you know, he's like, these are the best years. He said every age is a good age, but try to cherish the baby ages because those are like where they learn everything and where you're their protector.

And it's just really, really cool. And there were other times, the other thing that comes to mind is that during the Sandusky stuff, he and Dan, you know, had me on quite a bit and kind of valued my unfortunate expertise in child abuse and, you know, encouraged me to write about it and was really gracious about some of the stuff I wrote for the score through all of that. So, yeah, it was just really, it's sad that he's gone, but, you know, I'd rather celebrate his life than more in his passing at this time. Well, Pat, it's nice to hear from you, even if it is under sad. circumstance. And just in case you didn't know, there's a special broadcast tomorrow from 12 to

7. So I hope you get to check it out. I think you'll appreciate it. I will. I already have it planned them all tomorrow afternoon for some medical stuff, so I'll be able to listen pretty much the whole afternoon. I hope it goes okay, and I hope your retirement is treating you well too, Pat. It is. Thank you. Good. I'm glad to hear it. We have more coming up here on Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670. The score 312, 644, 67, 67. is our number. We remember Terry Bors, and we will do so all day today. And as you heard Mitch say, and I just mentioned to Pat, all day tomorrow. And, well, you know, those aren't the only days. The voices, as you hear them, as you hear people getting emotional, choked up, it just reminds

you that while this is a show, this is a station that puts on a show, it's more than being an audience member, it is completely and purely interactive, and you're reminded of that with each one of these calls. And texts. Aaron and Valpo says, I learned more from Terry Boers than any other man I never met. I get it. He inspired us all. So we continue with your calls.

312-644-67-67 here on Rahimi Harrison Grody on 670, The Score. Tomorrow from noon to 7. The score honors an original as we celebrate the life of Terry. Boers. I love you guys too, and I think that the score has come so far and done so well. We're talking to you guys making me feel a lot better. We dedicate the day to the man who helped shape the score and inspired a generation of sports fans and sports media voices, hosted by Matt Spiegel, and joined by score personalities past and present. I worked with Terry at the Sun Times. He was a great Bulls beat writer back in the day. Sports writers were on the radio back in the day, and he

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This is Rahimi Harrison Grody on 670 the score, and we wanted to listen to you when it came to sharing your memories of Terry Boards. 312, 64-67. We go to Keith in Shorewood next. Hello, a couple things real quick. First off, Layla, thank you for the coded message about the show tomorrow. I read between the lines that I'm – I just want to say something to Mitch if he's – hopefully he's listening, but to take that stance and bring in the people from the past, regardless of all the situations that happened to score all these years,

is one of the most outstanding executive things I could ever say. So I just wanted to pass that along, and for him to do that for Terry's memory, is just one of the most, you know, it's so cool to see the stations run by just one of an incredible person. I called in yesterday in the dugout, but I just want to repeat this again. I think Terry Boar's legacy will be exactly what you guys are already displaying right now is his connection with people. I didn't call in a lot back then, but I've been listening since day one. Got an opportunity to go to a couple remotes over the years that were near Joliet because the shore was so close. and, you know, just really enjoyed those moments.

You know, from a listener's standpoint, one of the things that has always stood out and has always stood out personally for me is I did a lot of window time because of my job. I worked for Whitehead, and then I worked for industrial sales for my last 14 years before I retired in 24. And, you know, those moments driving home when you're trying to deal with life and kids

and everything that was going on. And to have those hour and a half, two hours with snowstorms and rainstorms and all the other stuff that, you know, commuters deal with, you just had that, you just were able to forget about all that and just sit back and listen and laugh and not always agree with, you know, Dan or Terry, you know, it's just, it means a lot to the listener to be able to have that time. And I say that to you, and I say that to, you know,

your show as well when I get an opportunity to turn on the radio sometimes it's just to be able to escape for a while and not be paid attention everything else goes on so um sorry no it's okay and i i know we uh i know we provide that for people i know it's hard yeah could you give me one favor though i just um not to not to take away from your show i have a um obviously i know speaks and in lawrence better if if you could give them a for me today. Yes. Yeah, because I would appreciate

if you would do that. Keith, Lawrence is out of town, but we'll give him a virtual hug, so how's that? Sounds good. Anyway, but those are my thoughts tonight. It's so important that the score is, you know,

you listen to the people who've been calling in that were early on and were like the staples of people who would call into that show. I didn't, like I said, I never called in that much, but there was so many laughs that happened in between those interactions.

too. And, you know, I just, again, I just think that's Terry's legacy. And I hope that the score always maintains that because it's your secret sauce. It's what makes people listen to you. So I wish you guys all the best. And my thoughts are with the whole station and with Mitch and with everybody as you're doing with it. And have a great day. My thoughts are with you too, Keith. Thank you for sharing. We continue. Let's go to Tony and Juliet. Hi, Tony. Hey, Leila. Hey, Marshall. Usually it's about happy time talking with the bears and stuff. I'm absolutely devastated over this.

One of my friends called me on Friday. I was long about it. I'm a retired Julie detective, and one of his sons was a Will County sheriff's deputy with violent gang crimes, and I got to meet him on a couple cases. And I said, like, you know, man, when I was in patrol, I would listen to Boers and Bernstein every day,

and your dad is just my, I'm just, his biggest fan. I just love him. And he said to me, his son said, you know, Tom, he's like, he's my dad and I love him so much, but I'm like his biggest fan. He goes, I listen to him like a fan. And they started that Who Needs 2 Tavern tour. And I just think it really started the whole thing with score bringing the fans in. And like I said to you guys a couple weeks ago, it's like we're family. We're never going to meet, but we're family. And I feel like I lost a family member. And some of the stuff that I think was so great about him, I don't know if you guys remember. you if you heard. They used to have a guy that would call in about every two or three weeks.

They would actually have a segment for him. His name was Mike from Milwaukee. Oh, yes. He was the cutest older guy in the world. He liked his alcohol more than you should. And they would talk about sports and he would talk and sometimes he got into hands and the way Terry was so beautiful with him and so sweet with him. And the way he could talk to somebody like that and then somebody like Michael Jordan and they're on the same page. to meet him a couple times, the sweetest guy in the world. And like Marshall said, man, it's like, when you guys don't mean so much to us, and I don't think you really realize, like, there are times I call, and I just talk to Ray, I'm like, Ray, I don't really not want to get on, but this is what I'm thinking. And every time I say goodbye to Ray, I'm like, dude, thanks a lot,

man, I love you. And he says, I love you too. And it's not BS. It's like we really care. And we lose somebody that you've been listening to and seeing for that long. And the celebration is the first thing I thought of was some of those conversations. And Tyler, if you can pull some of that stuff up, Mike from Milwaukee, I think it's some of the greatest bores you'll ever hear. I don't want to keep going because there's a lot of people. I don't want to start crying. But Layla, Marshall, and Grotie, I love you guys.

And hopefully we don't have to hear about another person going for a long time because we lost the best one. and thanks for taking my call, Leila. Of course, Tony, and thank you for calling in. I know we don't have a ton of time left in this segment, and Herma Edwards has been kind enough to join us at 11. I think it's good to hear from a coach in our next segment. No, it absolutely is, but just one thing that Tony just said, man,

the connection that is sports and just communing over sports, man, I tell you there is truly nothing like it. It's true. Ray, who should we go to next? I know we don't have a lot of time. Let's go to Bruce in. Hi, Bruce. You're on the score. Hi, Layla.

Terry had an extraordinary sense of humor. Well, one of the things that really struck me, even though I never met him, was his seeming humility. And vague memory, the day before Thanksgiving, he would post on the website a, you know, he'd write on the website a Thanksgiving thought. and those things never failed to just choke me up. And that spoke to the type of person that Terry Boers was.

On the one hand, he could talk about the hockey angel, create so many wonderful sense, you know, it's getting cracking up. But he was just such a down-to-earth person as reflected in his writing. And I will, I've missed him since he's not been on the air. And the world lost a great person. It's very sad. The best to all of you, you guys are fan. It was very kind of you, Bruce.

And I think you put it very, very well. We've got a little bit of time left. Ray, who's next? Bill, Elkroy Village. Let's go to Bill and Elkro Village. First off, your show is fantastic. I'm not even that huge of a sports fan anymore. It's just I love it for the entertainment,

and I get my sports now from all the shows just by his most because my girlfriend really couldn't care less. But anyway, I used to read Terry's columns in the Sun Times, and so I always just dug his sense of style with his writing and stuff. So when they announced the score was going to start up, I was champing at the bit to listen. And I can pretty much plot my life by listening. I was an apprentice working in a shop in Chicago roofing.

And so I remember in the dead winter sorting roof tiles and slates listening to the score and Terry had a little aside, like, I don't even know if anybody's listening. And so, well, anyway, so fast forward, I think between him and he, and Dan Bernstein, they probably shaped my personality somewhat. I mean, I try to be kind to people, but I just don't have any patience for stupid people. And I try and keep it in check. I've gotten better as I've gotten older. And so it was just weird yesterday because I was shredding some old files,

and I came across a file from 2016, and I've been basically a ghost. I'd hardly call, and I'd show up for a few remotes here and there. And just as a payback for the years and years of entertainment, when Boers and Bernstein were doing remotes, I'd show up, and I'd cut a check for, you know, whoever's charity. And so last night when I was shredding a check, I found a check in the liner note or whatever I had, thank you, Terry. And it's like it just kind of, you know, kind of hit home.

And anyway, anybody that's listening to this and listen to them in the past, I think that's a sentiment. Thank you, Terry. You're right, Bill. Thank you, Terry. I'm sorry we didn't get to everyone's calls. I know the afternoon show is going to have some as well. We'll try to mix them in as we can. And if you didn't hear from 12 to 7 tomorrow, we are doing a live celebration of Terry Boar's life here on the score.

It will be hosted by Matt Spiegel starting at noon. and yes, former score personalities will be a part of it. I'll let them tell you, not me. Coming up next, Herm Edwards, to talk about the Bears. The Super Bowl setup is set, and the AFC and NFC title games that passed yesterday. I can't wait. Hopefully, the Super Bowl is better than that AFC championship game. That was a game that occurred.

So we'll do that next with Herm Edwards. Thank you for joining. us today. I'm Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670 the score. Who are you? This hour is sponsored by Almost Free Teeth.com, affordable implants, life-changing smiles. Maine with his hands under center, drops to his knee, and that's it. The New England Patriots are back in the Super Bowl.

The Patriots win the AFC Championship, beating the Denver Broncos 10 to 7. Desperation for Stafford. Eight seconds left. blown up near side. Nicole, is he out of bounds? Three seconds. He's looking at the clock. That's Westwood, one on the call.

This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670, the score. And there's no better guest to bring into this type of music. Now that we know our Super Bowl matchup, then the coach. Joining us on the Circus Sports Illinois hotline. Download the Circa app today is Herm Edwards. Herm, thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you for a lot. me to be on your show.

Trust me, Herm, this is our pleasure. We get to learn knowledge from you right now. Well, I don't know about that. I don't know how much knowledge I have, but we'll try to talk and figure it out and see what's what. As we try to figure this out, tell me, Herm, in your view, how did we get here? A Seahawks versus Patriots Super Bowl. Sam Darnel was a cast-off not too long ago, and now look at him.

And then you've got, of course, Drake May in season number two. leading a Patriots team, even though he didn't throw for 100 yards in the AFC championship game. Well, I think you think about the Seattle situation, Sam Donald, it's going to be a great story. I think it capsulates just the ability to never give up on yourself and to continue to bet on yourself. I can remember saying that when I was a father, I told my kids, my daughter, I said, you always got to have enough gumption to bet on yourself regardless what other people may say. And he's been able to do that. And now he finds yourself in the Super Bowl with Seattle, obviously.

And you look at the other situation with the Patriots, everyone during the season was saying, well, they got an easy schedule, and their schedule is their schedule. But at the end of the day, their schedule, they won all those games to get where they're at. And they started a young quarterback that basically ran them to the Super Bowl. He didn't pass his way to the Super Bowl. He actually ran them to the Super Bowl and good for them as well. And Herm, I think there were so many decisions where as a coach, you're probably not just analyzing the quality of the play out of these four teams that we just saw.

But there were some pivotal decisions, whether playing a factor in the AFC championship game, for example, Sean Payton being asked about his decisions in the second quarter, you don't think that's your best chance for points. what did you think of some of the decisions that stood out to you in these games? Well, I mean, you know, being a coach and being a player, I mean, those are the things that happen in games. And I think they're obviously more magnified when you play in a game of this stature. You know, you're playing a championship game or a playoff game.

And when the outcome is not what you like, people are going to look back not only on the play of the players, but decisions that maybe some coaches made. In retrospect, I think we can always second-guess coaches. I know when you're in the moment, that's when you try to make the decision. I've always said this. With analytics being a real part of this now, all of a sudden that kind of blurs things, right? All the fans have the analytic information,

and you have analytics as a coach. I just believe in the old-fashioned way, you know, when I was a coach and had the great responsibility of being a head coach and a decision maker. The one thing I've always learned is I just listen to my eyes. and I don't worry about analytics. I listen to my eyes. I look at the field and say, this is what's happening.

Here's a situation. And this is what I'm about to do. And so that's all you can do. And sometimes you're right, sometimes you're wrong. And when you're wrong and you lose, that's the big talking point, right? Especially the day after the game. Talking about listening to your eyes as we talk to Herm Edwards, long-time coach, former NFL player, now an analyst.

I got to ask you, Herm, based on your eyes, Fourth and one from the New England 14 in the second quarter, you can get a chip shot and go up by two scores. They decide to go for it. What would you have done in that situation? And obviously, they didn't score again in that game. Well, the momentum of the game tells me at that point I'm going to rely, and I learn this being a coach when you get in that situation,

fourth and one. The first thing I'm doing is I'm going to go for it, but I'm going to run the ball. I'm going to put it on the big fellas. You know, it's almost one of those deals when you get, getting situations like that. And I'm not saying whatever he decided was wrong, but I do know this. The big guys that really determine the game, offensively and defensively, the guys

that put their hands in the dirt, when you're a coach and a fourth and one and you throw a pass, you've got to deal with those big guys when it don't work now. Because that looks like you saying, coach, you mean to tell me that you don't think we can knock these guys off the ball for a yard? I learned that as a head coach with the Jets. Kevin Mowker, remember Kevin Mawker. why. Coach, when it's fourth and one, if you

decide to go, coach, it got to be a run. I had Curtis Martin, I said, you're exactly right. And I didn't care if the other team knew it. We're going for it. We're running the ball. We're going to throw a pass. We're going to run the ball. And coach, I think what stands out to me in that decision is not only it doesn't

motivate your players, at least how I see it, is that you can know it's coming, but then it's still the other team's job to try to stop it. Correct. And I think if you, if you, if you stress that you're a tough football team, that's toughness on either side of the ball. Now, defensively, you know what?

You're a tough team, stop them. This is why you do those drills at the end of practice. You say, hey, the ball's on the three-yard line and we're going to run the ball, stop us, defense. And the offense says he ain't stopping us. And that's why you do all those drills. I mean, that's what all that off-season training and all those drills are about, you know, and the team huddles around and everybody's watching. and they go, okay, let's see who can move the line of scrimmage.

You got two weeks to figure this out before the Super Bowl. Super Bowl 60 takes place. Coach, I'm very curious. Who do you like in this game and why? Well, I think I like Seattle in this stance. I'm a defensive-minded guy. I just like the way they play defense. They can rush the quarterback.

They can cover the wide receivers. And they've got some talented players of their own. I think it's a great story for Sam Darnel, not taking anything away from anyone else, obviously. But I just, I like their story. It's a nice story to have. And if they win, can you imagine the platform Sam Darnel will be put on? I think that's a platform where a lot of people can look and say, you know what? This is what tenacity.

This is what betting on yourself can do when you have the ability to do. that. And so that's why I like that story, obviously. And New England, obviously, is the story of their coach Grable coming in and taking a team that no one anticipated those guys to even be here, no less win as many games as they did during the season. And now they find theirself in the Super Bowl with a young quarterback that, as I said before, basically ran him into the Super Bowl.

He didn't pass him into the Super Bowl. He used his legs and just ran him into the Super Bowl. or he had more rushing yards than anybody on the field. Yeah, the yards were at a premium in that game. That's for sure, Herm. We're talking to Herm Edwards, the ESPN analyst, and of course the longtime NFL and college head coach here in Rahimi Harrison Grady on 670 the score.

And you've mentioned Sam Darnold a couple times. Of course, we're drawn to him because not only was his time in the division in the NFC North when he was with the Vikings so pivotal, but also just the redemption that he's had. And to do it twice, you know, know, to come into Minnesota and have the year he had with Kevin O'Connell and then to not get paid by Minnesota, even though he could have earned a lot of money, then to do it again in Seattle. You know, what stands out about what he's done, even to you as a former head coach,

he's seen so many things, about how he's been able to succeed once and then again like this. He has great character, and you could hear that from his teammates when he had some bad games. when, you know, like, look, Sam Donald still has, he still has a problem, turn the ball over. He did it this year. He did it, he did it in big games. And, you know, when you have a defense like they have, that's what, see, that's what people don't realize something about when we play good defense. Defense is like when you're playing socially with your buddies playing golf. And you hit one out of bounds and everybody says, you get a mulligan.

That's what defense does for you when you turn the ball over. They say, don't worry about it. We'll stop them. They won't get any points. That's what good defense does. Because Jilly, when you don't have a good defense, you turn the ball over, people score points. The defense gives the quarterback a mulligan, gives all those offensive players a mulligan. You fumble the ball, you throw in reception, something bad happens.

We always used to say on defense, when that happens, put the fire out, boys, go put the fire out, and stop them. And so when you're able to do that, that motivates you. and it motivates the defense. And when you think about this defense, those defensive players talk about him when you turned the ball over a couple times, and they said, hey, he saw a quarterback. We're going to ride with him.

And they've ridden all the way to the Super Bowl. Can't wait to see what happens in that particular contest. Herm, I've got to ask you about your former occupation as a head coach. This coaching carousel is something that we have never seen the likes of. When you talk about the number of legendary and winning coaches who have stepped aside, been fired, however you want to put it. What is your take on where we are with how coaching works in the NFL? Are these coaches being given enough time?

Has the industry changed that much since you were an NFL head coach? I think the owners look at it different now when you see some of these coaches like Grable all of a sudden. He takes a program first year and gets him to football. Well, your owner, you go, well, he did it. Why can't my coach do that? That's the problem. That's the problem.

People just think it's simple. That's the problem. They go, well, that guy got in the playoffs this first year. Why can't we go? Okay. So they get another coach. That's what they do. And besides the coaching, I mean, you think about coaches,

nine coaches will let go. That's 200 jobs. Because they have assisted coaches, too. There's about 20 on the staff. That's about 200 jobs. There's 200 NFL jobs out there. Now, they'd feel some of the positions. But at that one point, there was 200 jobs.

I sat there and went, looked at my wife. I said, that's 200 jobs. She looked at him as well as well. I said, you know, all the assistant coaches, they go with these guys. But that's the occupation. You know it. You signed on to do it. You just, you know, you're hoping you can win enough and stay in a place.

And if not, you know, you never unpack your suitcase fully when you're a coach. You know, it's half unpacked. One of the interesting things that's already happened, Diana is senior reporting, that Bears' offensive coordinator, Declan Doyle, has withdrawn his name. from consideration for the Eagles' offensive coordinator vacancy. Now, this is interesting because he's not the first guy to be in the running for a job and pull back and says, I'm just going to go back to where I was.

We've seen that with former head coaches, whether it's Mike McDaniel, down with the Dolphins, who's now looking to be the Chargers offensive coordinator as opposed to being a potential head coach in other spots. What do you make of the timing of this all here in Chicago? So we know Ben Johnson was the Detroit Lions offensive coordinator and said, I'll run it back and then, of course, waited for this job to become open. Well, I think when you're a good coordinator, you just bet on yourself, knowing that there's always going to be jobs available.

That's the NFL. Kid me? There's always going to be jobs. We know that. Historically, you know, I've been in the league with coaching and playing 30-plus years. That doesn't change. It's always going to be a job. And that's coaches knowing, you know what, I'm going to bet on myself.

I'm going to be fine. I like my team. I like this situation. I think we can get further in the playoffs. I'm going to continue to be a good coach and I'm going to get a job. And that's, they're betting on yourself. Nothing wrong with that. We're talking to Herm Edwards, the longtime NFL coach, the ESPN analyst,

kind enough to join us on Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670 to score. And it's funny, coach, because you bring up the timeline that we've seen the Patriots and Mike Vrable have. but then he's beating a team coached by Sean Payton who unfortunately lost Bo Nix due to a broken bone in his ankle in that last game, which was an incredible game in and of itself. Coming down to luck, but I think to even do what Sean Payton has done, a guy known for his offensive mind, got far and away one of the best defenses in the league too. You know, what do you make of just the timeline you're talking about when it comes to Peyton coming back to the Broncos? And then what that team did this past year? Oh, they were fabulous.

to get him to that position, obviously, and then competitive enough to play with a quarterback that he chose instead of him. And I think he showed everyone why he chose the guy because Stidham, I mean, he didn't lose the game. I mean, basically they got beat by a quarterback that ran the ball for 68 yards. If you look at the game, I mean, the quarterback didn't throw it to beat him. He just kept running up the middle when it was voided. He went back to throw. He had no intention to throw half the time.

He just took off and he ran. He made first downs. That was a game that, you know, it wasn't going to be a high scoring game. You knew that as soon as his weather change, you got out. Here we go, boys. This is field position. This is kicking game. This is protect the ball.

Don't turn the ball over. The first one that blinks is going to lose. And he just, he made some runs on the defense that put him in position, you know, and the big fumble, obviously. He was still mad. You know, but other than that, it was a game of Chit's field position and, you know, who's going to make a play or two. And the quarterback basically made the plays for him.

He ran. Herm, what do you think about the Bears season this past year and their potential for next year? fabulous. I think it, I think hopefully all the naysayers about who their quarterback was last year, obviously you have to be quiet right now because I can remember all the, noise that was coming out of Chicago when came of Williams. His rookie season came in there with Jaden Daniels, and Jaden Daniels had a phenomenal year,

and everyone was saying, well, we picked the wrong guy. Well, not so fast. I think this year that noise got quieted. I think coaching matters. Ben Johnson came in there and established an offense, put him under center. He said, this is what you're going to do. He took heed to that. He's a talented guy.

I can remember playing against him when I had Jaden at Arizona State. We used to play that sick. I saw him in college. I said, this dude, boy, he's really good. And then this year, he just showed off. If you're a bear fan, just think about it. You can go to bed every night on their office and say, we got a quarterback for the next decade.

We got a quarterback. And they're going to get better. A team's going to get better. There's no doubt about that. We just threw up our hands in elation here in the studio, Coach. That was good news for us. And I feel like Marshall has been saying the almost the exact same phrasing. Yeah, for the next decade.

They got their franchise quarterback, right, Irm? They do. And I think at the end of the day, look, it's just good for football. When you got a quarterback, no matter what town you're in, what team you've root for, you've got a chance. It gives you a chance. It's like people used to always get mad at Green Bay because they always had a quarterback. Oh, Green Bay always got the quarterback. You got to get a quarterback. Well, you got a quarterback.

Green Bay has a quarterback. Detroit has a quarterback. All of a sudden, you know, Minnesota, hopefully that young kid gets, well, they got a quarterback. And so that's going to be a very, very interesting conference all of a sudden. Herm Edwards, this has been a lot of fun. As usual, we love talking football with you. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, coach.

Thank you for having. That is Herm Edwards, the longtime NFL. And yes, college and PAC 12 coach. to us about not just the Bears, but the AFC and night of C title games and a lot more. I would have loved to play any sport for Herm Radhors. I just don't point that out. Well, and the way he, you can tell, man, like Sam Dernal, just believing in people. That's what they do. That's what coaches do. Coming up next year on Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670, the score, I want to remind you again

that if you missed our first hour, we had a lot of calls, and Mitch Rosen came in to talk about Terry Boards. We are having a celebration of life to honor his. tomorrow starting at noon. It goes until 7 o'clock. Matt Spiegel is hosting. So we want to bring back some classic audio for you coming up in our halftime segment. But next, there was a monumental evening that took place at the United Center on Saturday. Our takeaways in some of what we heard from Derek Rose's Jersey retirement. That's next. The Rahimi Harrison Grody Show, Midday's 10 to 2 on Chicago Sports Radio 670 the score. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Tage, Tosh, get me crunk, man.

Chicago! What's up? We put my boy in a rafters. Tage is from Brooklyn. And if you needed any indication, that New York accent was strong on Saturday night. He did a nice job as the hype, man. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670 to score. And that was former Bull Tage Gibson as part of the festivities and the ceremony. The honor, Derek Rose, retiring after 16 years in the NBA and getting his number one hung up in the rafters at the United Center on Saturday night. Not ideal weather conditions. It was a late one.

But I think the quality of the game kept people energized to get to that moment. You know why we're here, the people who made their way to the United Center. Yeah, they get the 114-111 went over the Celtics. And that's just a precursor to what happened next, which is one of the nights that I don't think the city of Chicago is ever going to forget. No, and I'm pretty sure Kevin Hurter after the three that he shot did the, he emulated D. Rose when he did the stone face lean back. His teammates weren't, nobody grabbed him.

No, but he still did it. He still did the stone face lean back. And for that, Kevin Hutter, I salute you because somebody paid attention and someone, in the words of Stacey King, got the memo. And that was Kevin Hutter nicely done on the tribute. And that's what this was. This has been, I feel like a, since he announced his retirement overall, it's been a year-long celebration of Derek Rose going back to the night that he was originally

honored at the United Center for his career. That was 1-425. The reason it's easy to remember is those are the numbers he used to wear. There were a lot of Simeon jerseys and Simeon gear in the crowd at the United Center. And that's where this sits with me. The Bulls retiring Derek Rose is number one. isn't just about his time with the Bulls. It was about what he meant to the city of Chicago.

And the Bulls bear Chicago's name. They play in this city. So for him to be honored in that way, this is a, if you respect his career and you understand what he meant to this city and how he brought his play to Chicago in his professional career, that's a moment that deserves not just to be honored,

but to be respected for the entirety of what he has done. To even be drafted by the Bulls was somewhat of a miracle. Depends on if you believe in the frozen envelope theory. But that's kind of the point. Are you a conspiracy theorist? I'm an NBA conspiracy theorist, but that one isn't as big for me as some others. I do think, though, that this is a celebration of his basketball career, what he meant to the city.

You know, when you hear guys like Anthony Davis call Chicago basketball mecca, what that means to them, to be able to honor the career that represents Chicago like Derek Rose has. That's what made this, I think, extra special. The fact that he was only a bull for eight years and roughly half his time, and of course, he's the rookie of the year. He's a multiple-time all-star. He's ultimately the MVP and did it younger than anyone has done in the history of the NBA. And I had a lot of people asking me because, like, you know, I do social videos and everything else. And like, well, you know, he didn't win anything. I was like, he won that MVP. Did he not?

He was, are we going to really make a list of all of the talent in the NBA who played during the time of LeBron James in his peak? LeBron's in town tonight, by the way. We don't necessarily know if this is his last time in town. That's the segment we're doing later in our show. But this, it doesn't have to necessarily do with what his team won. Yes, he was the league's youngest MVP, and that's a good point. And Jordan, however, are we going to discredit every number that's been retired by another team during the time of Michael Jordan? Scotty Pippen did the intro.

Michael Jordan actually had a message of congratulations, which is rare for Michael to even speak about these things. for this city and for his former team, he did the message for the Ring of Honor. It's good to see him on that videotron, right? To see his face represented at United Center, like recently as opposed to just the statue that sits in the atrium. I mean, I joke that we're going to see the Pope before we see Michael Jordan at a Bears game. Let's listen to MJ's message since we've got it. Derek, congratulations on retirement in New Jersey. Very happy for you.

He had an unbelievable career. You really represent the city of Chicago, Chicago Bulls, your family, and yourself very, very well. So I'm very proud of you and very happy for your special night. Looking forward to coming to the United Center and see your jersey hanging up there with my jersey. Congratulations and enjoy your night. It's about what he represented, starting in high school for Chicago basketball. I don't know why that's so hard for people to understand, but then again, I don't think it's about understanding for them. him. It's about sticking to one topic and purposefully discrediting the others. That happens every day.

But Derek Rose had every reason to have that night. And I love what his mom said in the video to begin with too. And she was understandably emotional. But when she said, you gave the NBA 16 years, it's time for you to rest. Listen, he gave those pre-injury years in such a way, in such a, I guess violent manner is the best way to describe his physical activity, if you will. He left it all on the court. The motor, the everything. I mean, my favorite part of his speech, by the way, he went 20 plus minutes, 22 minutes, I believe, in total, is him talking about Tibbs who was there. And he was like, yeah, you know physics.

I showed you physics. Yeah, that was good. And I was really impressed with just how he handled the moment, you know, it was emotional. It was authentic. And it really let you into like what he was feeling I felt like in the moment. Remember, this is a guy who had actually seen the banner the day before. And he got emotional even talking about it before the actual ceremony. And still, when it was time,

when the horn went final on the Celtics game and it was time for him to do his thing. He and his former teammates, I think Casey Johnson said 25 of them showed up. That's a lot of love. Yeah, the picture of all of them together on the court took up two tiles on Instagram. They had to spread it out over two posts so that way it looks coherent on the grid. And that's how many people were there. And we did hear special names. As I mentioned, you know, Scotty Pippen was part of the intro.

Michael Jordan had a message of congratulations. Tom Thibito was in a suit. He was in a suit and he was at the ceremony. Luw Aldang spoke and Derek Rose's family. And that was my biggest takeaway, was hearing him speak to his brother in a way that I don't think gets platformed enough. Everybody in this big, um, Redd, love the way that you protecting me.

Love the way that you took me everywhere, bro. Love the way you sacrificed. being on the road, New Orleans days, being there talking, me being afraid, and you being there, I appreciate you for that. Don't go and know this. Grady you. You always be in there. Esco get killed.

You go and go into the streets. You come home and you tell me, stay away from the streets while you're doing nefarious things. Why are you being a rough one? You're telling me and stay away from it while you're doing it. I appreciate that. That's something that I'll never look over because I could have been used when stuff on down. I wasn't able to go there as film.

I could have been mad when I told me I couldn't go. She said that she was going to represent us, and that made me feel like I had a chance and I could separate myself and be different than the path that you went down because of that. So thank you, Long. My big bro, my big bro that people don't talk about. I got the best big brother in the f***le world.

In the world. My big bro don't cheat. My big bro was with his family the whole life. My big brother, whenever I needed something, he was there. My big brother, if mama needed something, he was there. My big brother, if mama needs something right now, he's there. My, Blaine, you set the exam. You set the example, bro, as being the big brother, man.

That's something as a husband. Now, that's something I thrive to be like you, brother. So thank you. I appreciate that. I had already had tears the day before after learning about the news about Terry. But to anybody who has a sibling, to have to say that in front of so many people at the United Center. And the way he did, and his brother,

was visibly moved and had every right to be. But that was about, in that moment, that was about him and his family. And I just thought it was, you don't get to hear that, like, spoken like that in a place like that very often. It was moving. I found it to be highly appropriate that on a night in which a man whose last name is rose was set to get his flowers, he ended up giving out some bouquets with his time on the mic and that's when it became clear how we got here, you know?

Like how this rose was able to grow in such a manner through some thorny times, it sounds like. I mean, just the way he framed it, pictured it, getting to not only becoming a national star, Semyon, Memphis, and then of course back home with the Bulls, it's a fairy tale. You know, and when he said, take a teammate with you and what that meant to his team, what it meant to his teammates, you don't think the family inspired that first? And when you hear that, and his kids were crying, that brought tears to my eyes too. It felt like a whole lot of people were crying watching that. Absolutely.

And I want to, I want to listen to Luwaldang, and I know we're up against it timewise here. but this is why I think it's important to celebrate it's not just about the record listen to lualding and how he spoke about Derek rose I know I know your name is D. Rose and we carry the rose but the sign was always there from God that you're going to rise from this city for this city see what you did to accomplish this right took minutes it took hours It took days. It took weeks. It took months, years. But this thing, this thing is forever, man. This thing right here, when people talk, when people talk about all the minutes, all the injuries, everything we went through, that's our trophy. It's our trophy, man. I'm so thankful not because of basketball. A kid from Africa from South Sudan. I'm just so thankful that I'm a part of this city.

I'm so thankful that I'm a part of this legacy. And no matter what, because of you, because of you, they will never ever forget us, man. I love you, boy. Coming up next, it's halftime. We decided we got to bring back some old fun score audio for you. So again, thank you to Laalding. Congratulations to Derek Rose.

And to those who appreciate it, not everybody has to understand. What time is it? It's halftime here on Rahimi Harris and Grotie on 670 to score. Mitch Rosen was on with us at 10 o'clock and announce that tomorrow we are honoring Terry by having a celebration of life from noon until 7. Matt Spiegel is hosting and score. personalities from past score shows are going to be on.

Did you see what I said there? That doesn't even make any sense. Point being, you should listen. And thank you to everybody who called in to remember him as well. We wanted to keep it going. This is a clip from the day Terry Boers announced that after 25 years, he was retiring here at 670 the score. I'm going to keep this fairly simple,

and I want to emphasize that this decision was made a long time ago. Decision was actually made before my illness, which has certainly hastened in some ways a decision. It's made it a very, very difficult year for me. And any time I have to be away from as much work as I've been from, as I've had to do this year, it makes me sad, makes me feel bad. It has done so since mid-June. and I still feel the same way today and a lot of us swirls around work

and you're probably saying what's wrong with you well I don't know but anyway I want to emphasize that the way this year is gone for me which is horribly has nothing to do with this decision which is a decision to retire which will happen at the end of this year and my last show will be January 5th

so I do this wanting you to understand it's been a very Very difficult year, and it wasn't a difficult decision to make, but I want you to understand that I'm not being driven from the business. I'm not being as disappointing as all this has been to me because I'm a guy who's worked for 50 years, and I would have happily worked the last six months of this as well every damn day. It hasn't turned out that way, and I don't know that it ever will again. I mean, I couldn't, even if I wanted to say myself, well, hold off a while.

No, I can't because I don't know what the future holds. I really don't. And I know that if I retire, which I was going to do, I wanted to make it 25 years. You wonder what do you want? 25 years started on January 2nd, 1991 at the score or 1992. And this would be 25 years on January 2nd of this year. I wanted to make it to 25 years. And you say, what's wrong?

I don't know why. I just did. It would be 20 years of writing for a living and 25 years of doing this for a living. And I can promise you that these last 25 years. years have been a hell of a lot better than the first 20 and it's meant the world to me and it continues to do so it continues to do so even as I faced the last stages of it so um you know I I do it what column experience is better than I can probably at this point but it now you're doing fine I think there's a um reach a breaking point and I had reached it a while ago just in general

and then when this other breaking point hit me as hard as it hit me I had a lot of time to reflect a lot of to think about it a lot of time because nothing was ever announced nothing was ever said publicly or anything about it so I could have changed my mind at any point and I don't think at this point I can rely on it I can't do it I can't possibly face this again because missing what I missed this year including the Cubs although I was there for a week wasn't I the world series opener I just it it was tough on me in every way possible not only physically but mentally and I hate to be away. I just hate to miss what we missed, what I missed. And I thank Dan and everybody who filled in. But I don't ever want to face that again. So we will gradually, I have plenty to do in this last

month or so here. I have doctor appointments and everything else that continues to go on. It will go on for a while. And I will continue to miss some time, but I'm not on, not like I did last time. I will be here most days. At least I will try, because you never know what's going to happen. You never know what's going to bring, and especially with this thing. You can never predict. You just don't know how you're going to feel from one day or the next. You don't know how you're going to feel from one minute to the next. So all of that combined with what I knew before this, that I wanted to make it to 25 years.

I'm going to make it to 25 years, damn it. That much I've done. I don't know about what else I can do at this point, but January 5th, I promise you, will be a last show and a very special one. For me, anyway, I don't know if I'll be for others. But we're sort of planning it right now and it's getting done. And I think everybody here who's been so patient with me over all these years, and particularly this year, and Dan in particular, for putting up with what I know is difficult to do.

Stop it. And Matt and Chris and everybody else, Mitch, I mean, you really start to find out who your real friends are. And believe me, I found out the hard way. I should have known. I should have known all along. But anyway, so I bow out. And I don't know what's going to happen here. I don't know if you do.

I don't know what's going to happen. We'll see. But whatever it is, it'll be fine because Dan is great at what he does. But I will be here as much as I possibly can. And I don't see anything standing on my way. If I'm surviving the way I feel these days is better than I did the first time around when I came back probably too early. But I'm going to try Lawrence to hang in there as long as I can. And I'm really looking forward to the last show because I think it's going to touch home with a lot of people.

who've listened to this station forever. That was in 2017. That was Terry's retirement show. And he did make it to 25 years. And he would join the score intermittently when he could, like for the 30th anniversary special. That was the party we had a real-time sports. And he would appear on this show very often with Dan Bernstein.

And even there, you can tell. He was more humble than he should have ever been. and just again this has been such an emotional time for all of us here at the score and you hear it even in him announcing his retirement because just getting through that you could tell how much this meant to him you heard about his goal of 25 years and now with his passing terry boers i mean just the outpouring that we've received since we've been on the air today for for less than two hours. And in true score fashion, I don't think we, I don't think it should all be us being sad. We've had some requests for some classic audio.

We had to narrow it down because we didn't have a lot of time in our halftime segment. So without further ado, from the Chicago Wolves Update Studio, I'm Chris Ranji. In regard to the Bears' offensive line, something has to change.

And coordinator Mike Tice knows that, but says that changing personnel really is not an option. We have other guys on the roster, other guy on the roster. It's not like at this point of the season, you could take a James Brown, who I'm very high on the person, all the players, just it works with all, and say, okay, you're the guy now. Yeah, you. I did not see that coming at all. that was great.

You can hear Dan and Terry in the background laughing. Nice work out of Jason Goff on the ones and twos there. Timing is everything, right? Oh, that's a legendary one. There's a lot of classic audio that will be played. I know we had a request for Mike in Milwaukee, but unfortunately, the only cut that we found was eight minutes long, so we can't do that right now.

And a good two and a half minutes was Mike, trying to orient himself to time and space, I'm pretty sure, but there will be a celebration of a lot of the fun times as well. That is coming up, if you miss the news, 12 to 7 tomorrow. That's right. 12 to 7. Honoring an original Terry Boar's Celebration of Life, which will include former co-workers as well as current and former score personalities. The show will be hosted by Matt Spiegel. It is a true celebration of Terry's life. That's tomorrow starting at noon on the score and the score. the Odyssey app. Our five on its segment on Rahimi Harrison Grotty is next. The score! Five on Melaerahe and Marshall Harris with more Grody. Bring you five topics of their mind today on Chicago Sports Radio 670, the score. Number one. What did we learn about the Rams after they lost to the Seahawks but beat the bears?

Okay, that was my, are you all right with losing to the team who lost question? because the Bears lost to the Rams who lost to the Seahawks. I think what we learned was Sean McVeigh is also of the Sendit School. We asked the question to Herm Edwards about the Broncos going the fourth down call that Sean Payton says that he wants back when it comes to the Broncos and Patriots AFC title game where unfortunately the weather may have taken the entertainment out of that game in the second half. That was a struggle.

wasn't for your typical reasons. It was two good defenses, young quarterbacks, a backup quarterback, and a lot of just dealing with what the world was handing you at that time. Not the case in Rams and Seahawks where we did see a bit of a bit of going for it, a bit of send it when there was the fourth and fourth. They could have kicked a field goal. They were inside the red zone, but they decided to go for it. It ended up incomplete instead. That was an incredible game. At one point, there were four straight possessions where they had fourth straight. touchdowns between the two of them. So I think what I learned about the Rams is, even when it took the very last play

because they were able to move down the field in very little time, don't ever count that team out until it is absolutely done. And I know it's cliche, but Tom Brady had the Seahawks already advancing to the Super Bowl. It's like, not so fast Tom Brady. That Rams offense can do a thing or two. And they took it even down to the very last second of the game before you thought that this was done. And remember they had to challenge the play.

Pooka Nukuha, they couldn't figure out if his knee was actually inbound or not on the last play because he was trying to get to the right side line. Yeah, they had no timeouts. They needed a big game to set up a possibility for a Hail Mary or a Hook on Ladder or whatever you run at the end of games these days. Do you? But is that even a play? Maybe.

Anything can be a play if you can conceptualize it and then draw it up. Ben. In the dirt. Mike McDaniel We're on a board Sean McVeigh Willie Bob What do we learn about the Rams

After they lost the Seahawks But beat the Bears We learned that they're better than the Bears And that the Seahawks are better than the Rams I mean How dare you? Yeah, no, it's true The NFC West

was the best division in football this year And the only teams That have beaten NFC West teams At last check Were other NFC West teams that that's correct right there were three teams in and the Seahawks beat both the other NFC West teams the Niners and then now the Rams. Oh it's you all again.

Yes they did. Handily against the 40-Niters but then a challenge against the Rams. Yeah and this is about what I expect. Like the ballers came to ball. Both quarterbacks thrown over 300 yards. You had both leading receivers looking like number one receivers in Pooka Nakuha. And of course Jackson Smith and. And Jigba.

J-S-N. J-S-N. J-S-N. J-S-N sounds like a television network that I'm just, I did not pay the extra tier to get. You're listening to J-S-N. It does end and end, just like a lot of networks do. The Jackson Smith and Jigba network? You ever think about that? I hadn't until you said J-S-N. Also, how was he getting so open on some of those plays?

He was wide open in some of those catches. Objective number one, if you're A, D-S-N. defense is probably to try to contain him. The biggest playmaker. That's him. You might want to know where he is at all times. And then you're still at times going, wait, how do you get that separation on this guy? And we respect the Rams secondary.

They were starting to adjust mid-game and latent game to some of the tendencies they were seeing out of the Rams defense or out of the Seahawks offense rather, just like they did against the Bears offense. That's one of the big takeaways I had. Yeah. And I just, the Rams are better than, like I said, better than the Bears. They're as good as

the Seahawks, 49ers. All three of those teams are really good. And when they're healthy, they're all really, really good. I expect the Seahawks to make short work of the New England Patriots. So I just, what I learned about the Rams is that they're better than the Bears. Good luck to y'all.

Number two. What was the most compelling aspect of the AFC title game? Do you guys remember Friday when I was like, The Patriots have got this. Why did I discredit the home field combined with that Denver defense? Why? I lost faith in Nick Benito.

I don't want to face him and tell him in the face that I underestimated his team's defense. And thusly, Jared Stidham actually not only throwing passes but completing them. For a time. There was an explosive play out of the Denver offense even. Early. It happened. The guy who only had threw two passes prior to that

this season. Can we talk about what happened after the snow started falling though? That's it. This was the we'll take with what we have given bull. And that's what occurred. Like the Patriots had to go on the road to Denver. Denver's defense is ridiculous.

I thought Seattle probably had it was Houston and then it was Seattle out of the four for me who was slightly better. But that Denver defense once again, I mean, sacks, the pressure that they had dialed up. That was no easy day for Drake May and the crew. But Drake made it happen as Herm Edwards, who joined us earlier in the program,

you can use the old Odyssey app, the rewind feature, to go listen to that conversation that we had at 11 o'clock with the former NFL head coach and player. Now the current ESPN analyst, like he beat him with his legs. He had more yards rushing anybody else. And I just... But anybody else's relative... It is all relative. But once the snow started, that's why I thought you had to have points on that first opportunity to go up double digits.

And they did not get it when they went forward on fourth and one from the 14-yard line of New England. And that disappointed me. And I just, I wish the weather wasn't as big a factor as it had been. But I also knew that if one team was going to be like so wet on the weather, it was going to be the Patriots because they're pretty used to that weather. Yeah, they also were expecting a snowstorm in New England. over that weekend and it looked miserable. They were going to get way more inches of snow than we did here, but that got intense during the second half, and we know that.

The total yards in this game, if you liked defense and weather, then this was your game. 206 total offensive yards for the Patriots. Total for the career? 181 for the Broncos. In the career? Drake May was sacked five. times. And some of the stunts that they were running, I, number one, I was surprised in both games

how many times blitz pressure did not go picked up by both quarterbacks. Like, number one is Matt Stafford. Sir, you have no excuse. You're 37 years old. We joke about you being coat drive, because Tony Medlin's coat drive and you have both been alive for 37 years. Number two, Drake May, I'm like, okay, yeah, I get it. But at the same time, if Nick Benito is coming off the edge on your left side, and it's fairly obvious. Whose job is it to pick that guy up? Whose job is it to pick up the entire Denver Broncos front seven? I felt like that was happening a lot in this game

before the shift and the tide turned. You mean before the snow started falling? And then all hell broke loose. I'll say this. With those five sacks you talk about for 21 yards, the net passing was 65 yards. 65 yards net passing for Drake May. Yeah, that was a survive in advance.

Yeah, well, That's what it is at this point of the season. And we had a texture that was like, this game was a chess match, blah, blah, blah. I was like, yeah, of course it was. It's a playoff game in the NFL. That doesn't mean it was aesthetically pleasing because it wasn't. No, the Rams and Seahawks was aesthetically pleasing.

Also, I thought about this a lot during yesterday's game. How would you like to be the fans sitting at the top of that pointed open end zone seating get up at Lumenfield? get up is the right word here. The hell, like, who chooses that seat? You're like, I will take the top of this shady looking seating structure. Get in where you fit is, what I say. Why don't they just make it more square? Like, I appreciate architecture, but put more fans in the seats.

What is that? Did you notice that too, Ray? You're looking at me like you did. Oh, yeah, 100%. 100%. And I don't envy that. I don't, I mean, you'd have to be a hardcore, I don't care. You know, cold doesn't affect me fan to,

to be up there. Or you just really love to throw elbows. And if you sat at the top, then you know that nobody's getting in the way of your elbows. And everybody, everybody's right on this kick field goals thing. I understand, man. I understand that there are times where you want to go for it on fourth down. I love it. But I do think there are some field goals that guys would have rather had back in these cases.

Check the forecast and act accordingly. Yeah. And also just it's the first half, you know. Like, you can make those other decisions later. It's when you have to play from behind that makes it hard. I'll be out here telling you to go up two scores, always. Number three. This is five on it on six, seven, the score with Laila Rahimi and Marshall Harris.

Here's question number three. The Packers are reportedly hiring former Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon to be their defensive coordinator. What do you think happens to Bears' defensive pass game coordinator and defensive backs coach Al Harris, who also interviewed for that job. Al Harris, he's a former Packer, correct? That's why we're talking about this in an opening sense. Did Mike McCarthy ever coach him? I'm just curious.

I think he did. Does Mike McCarthy have a new head coaching job? I think Al Harris may very well be the defensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Well, and also, how about the news out of Washington? and there was a report that it was like, Al Harris is being interviewed. Dan Quinn wants turnovers. Raw!

And I'm like, oh, man, he's going to go. And I kind of accepted it. I knew that Al Harris was going to get a lot of interviews. The turnaround that he had of this bear secondary was incredible. What he did with an injured secondary deserves all of the credit in the world, making Kevin Byrd an all pro again. And Al would probably say, oh, Kevin Byrd did that himself. And yes, Kevin Byrd deserves credit.

Yes, all this things. but you still got to go out there and do it and be put in positions to succeed, which is something that I think Al Harris helped do. There's a high, high praise for Al Harris right now among league circles. And if he doesn't go to Pittsburgh, like you mentioned, maybe he just drives the price up on Washington. Because if there's one guy who probably also appreciates what he did with that secondary, it's defensive coach, Dan Quinn. I don't think we're out of the woods with Al Harris and jobs yet.

He may be able to call his shot, but I just selfishly hope it's not one of these. I do wonder how his interviews went over because I was a little surprised that Gannon was the pick in Green Bay. If Matt LaFleur is still mad about the Bears rivalry, even though Al Harris is a former Packer, do you think that may have had something to do with it? Probably not, I guess, because they wouldn't have brought him in an interview or they wanted secret info. Yeah, never get never turned down an opportunity to learn more about your opponent. and I think interviewing him, you can learn more about your opponent. Was three games not enough, Matt LaFleur?

Number four. Philip Rivers took himself out of consideration for the Bill's head coach job. What's next for Mr. Rivers? You know what? The thing that I found the most compelling about the Philip Rivers career arc this year was not even necessarily the comeback to the NFL, because that was prolific. just be honest about that. The whole thing

was very inspiring. But it was how collectively is a society, we all seem to understand that the true value of Philip Rivers getting a job and extending his service time in the NFL was that he gets five more years of

health insurance for him and his very large family. When the salary doesn't matter as much as the health insurance does, that is an indication of it all, is it not? I mean, I think the salary matters. Getting paid as an NFL head coach, you know my thing.

Hire me so you can fire me and I'll take the... That's college. But the NFL same principles apply. It is. But in this case, everybody seemed to know that the five years extra of health insurance that Philip Rivers got was worth him taking it for his familial team and coming back and getting a job in the league. Well, Diana Rusina, who had this news and then Mike Garifalo, who said,

sounds like he enjoyed the process with Buffalo, but now isn't the right time for him or his family. My family. Sounds like Wifee might have had some input on, you want us to move where? I don't know, because his kids are having kids. Like, he's to the point where they're self-policing and whatnot now.

He is a grandpappy. Not ignoring that fact. I don't know that it's like Joe Flacco, where he just wanted to have an uninterrupted meal alone. No, I don't think Philip Rivers is, knows what that's like based on his history and how we got here. By the way, Will Brinson,

senior writer for CBS sports NFL writer, maybe the tweet of the year, it's early. Philip Rivers pulled out. Certainly wasn't expecting that. I got family. Lots of family. The family roster is deep.

I think the bigger question is here. Does he get on to somebody's staff as an assistant or something like that? There are these like favorite quarterback interviews. that seem to happen. You know, where a guy doesn't necessarily have the, uh, the job experience, but it's good to interview into the process.

You can take the, the Josh McCown path. I was thinking of Josh McCown when we discuss this. McCowan. But perhaps we do see Philip Rivers as an assistant of some sort. Number five. It's five out of six,

70 score with Layla Rahimi and Marshall Harrison. Here's our final question. And it's a, It's a big one. It's a big one. It's an important one. Does anyone want to coach the Cleveland Browns? I mean, I would like to coach the Cleveland Browns for reasons I just shared with you. Hi, I would like to get hired and then fired by your finest executive. But it is a little bit concerning that Grant Udanski, the offensive coordinator for the Jacksonville Jaguars, who of course just had a great season, probably Trevor Lawrence's best offensive season.

has pulled his name from consideration for the head coaching job of the Browns, although he's still pursuing the Bill's job. I mean, clearly we have, if we're ranking it, the Browns's job is the worst job in the NFL right now. It's the worst head coaching job in the NFL right now. Yes. Because at least like with the Raiders, you have the number one overall pick coming up.

So you're going to be able to get whatever quarterback you would like. It's interesting because he's not the first person to withdraw. his name, and if you look at who's left, here are the remaining candidates for the Browns job. Survivor, Cleveland Browns. Defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz, Rams passing game coordinator, Nell Shihalas,

Commander's run game coordinator, Anthony Lynn, and former Ravens offensive coordinator, Todd Munkin. So not even Matt Neggie's on that list? Matt Neggie is going to be sitting on the sidelines as far as head coaching jobs. Maybe even offensive coordinator jobs. I do not believe he will be coaching in the NFL next year. So according to the Cleveland Browns.com, which would be their website,

head coach interview tracker. Matt Neggie isn't even on the list. So this makes me ask the question. Is Matt Nagy not on the list by the choice of the Cleveland Browns or by Matt Nagy's choice? Now hold on. You have a job that seemingly nobody wants. And even then you're not interviewing him? now sometimes I think it's because you can know that it's a bad idea for both parties

like I don't want to be associated with them they don't want to be associated with me neither seen but in this case when there's this dance that everybody does like I just mentioned we don't necessarily know what went on in the Al Harris and Green Bay Packers interview that's very interesting to me also this is no offense to Todd Monkin local guy but when I hear his name, I mentally picture him with his clipboard in the front part of his pants. That's appropriate because that's what he likes to do. He's on the record as saying he likes to do it and explaining why. Your waistband of your pants is there for a reason.

You might as well check it. Can't fit in your pocket. If it's, yeah, if it seems like that's the right place for the clipboard, then I don't hate on him for it. But here's the hook. Is that Munkin has an understood role if this doesn't work out? Yeah, I like this new trend of guys getting coordinator jobs And then you're free to interview for head coaching jobs And then you have a fallback if it doesn't work out

Oh, so you're not sending a thank you Matt Nagy graphic Like Yeah, it's it I'm like, what is happening here? Bye bye bye Do you remember the old movie failure to launch That seems like what's going on with Matt Nagy in his attempt to get back into the head coaching ranks.

What if in dating, you just sent them like a thank you graph, like a graph? Is this like a dare, jeter thank you bag? What are we talking about here? You're done with this relationship. Thank you, ex-girlfriend. I have a great setup. It did not work. You know, we just posted the graphic.

That's how you know it's over. We sent the thank you graphic. The end. I wonder if Matt Nagy's approach to this coaching carousel is, Not to be sad that it's over, but simply to be happy that it happened, that he had opportunities to interview for jobs. Who are the friends he's making along the way? I don't know that he's making that many friends along the way. Ray's just laughing over there.

I'm laughing because the Los Angeles Chargers have teased out. They've put this video out about an hour ago. Oh, we saw it. Yes. It's like they're teasing a Mike McDonald, Mike McDaniel, ask me anything kind of format where he's reaching into a. into a bowl with some questions. So it's just a tease.

It'll come out at some point, and I'm sure it's going to be amazing. See, here's the frustrating part. I think once you get to the league as a head coach, then you can't be have fun guy anymore. You know, you got to be like CEO guy. He was kind of fun guy still with the dolphins. And then what happened?

Have you seen Dan Campbell this past year? Dan Campbell also used to be have fun guy. Yeah, Dan Campbell had a rough year. And then once you get to that coaching job, it's like, no, you have to act a certain way. Nuts to that. They also photoshop that picture, which we don't know how authentic the original picture is, but where he, Mike McDaniel pulled up to that one club. Who was the opposing team?

It was the Bills. It was a Bills bar. It was a Bills bar. In Miami, he, you know, the authenticity is questionable. But, you know, he pulled up in the photo. He's in his car with his iron. I'm hanging out just looking at the bills bar. They have,

the Chargers have photoshoped that to be him pulling up to the Los Angeles Chargers facilities. It's amazing. The Chargers social team plus Mike McDaniel, endless possibilities. But also, if you remember, Ray, Mike McDaniel pretty much said that that was true. Like I said, you can expect who will be on the show tomorrow.

That is true. See, I would want to be have fun offensive coordinator guy. That is true. would be like, hey, let's get weird. Seventh down. Do you know who's also a half-fun guy? Who's at? Bill Wheddington. Bill was at Derek Rose's ceremony.

I think he can add a lot to being there. So we will have Bill on next or on Rahimi Harrison Grody on 670 the score. Rahimi Harrison Grody, Midday's 10 a.m. 2 on Chicago Sports Radio 670 the score. The only thing you do is foul and you don't want to do that. White and play, Pritcher, touch shot. and it's no good, but again, you can't take that shot.

And the ball game is over. Bulls win! Bulls win! Bulls win! This crowd on their feet. And it just started, folks, with Derek Rose around the corner. But the Bulls earned this game. 111, 11 on a Kevin Hurder left corner three ball. Take that, Peyton Pritchard.

This is Rehemi Harrison Grotie on 670 to score. I don't know why Peyton Pritchard deserved to stray. I have no idea. No, they beat them at their own game. want to see threes. Here's a three for you. Take it with you. Step back. How about the extra pass by Kobe White, too? I love a good extra pass. It was a well-designed play on an in-bounds with the game on the line. And I love it. Yes, it was on an in-bounds play. I also loved that part. Thank you for reminding me. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670, the score. And there's another person who

likes all of these things. He joins us on the Circus Sports Illinois hotline. Download the Circus Sports app today. You heard Chuck Swersky and Bill Weddington there on the call. Bill Whittington is joining us. Hi, Bill. Leila Marshall. Leiser to be on with you guys. And yes, I like extra passes as well, especially

when they were to me. Everybody eats. That's the idea. What did you make of that last play? It was good play design. It was often inbound. And that was some good coaching and good execution. It absolutely was. And the whole game was, was excellent.

And we had, you know, I was just going over the stats tonight because we got a game tonight. And I looked at the game, we had eight double figure scores and nine players played. And the one player who didn't score double figures would not be the guy you would think it was giddy. Only had four points. Now, everything else was he had 10 assists and I think six or seven rebounds and played well. But that last play was nice. Hurtr gets put in the game to inbound the ball. And I'm always very leery of inbounder plays.

I even told Charlie, watch, you know, Kevin, it's good that he's inbounding the ball because he could step right back in and get a shot. And that's pretty much what happened, although he did drop down to the corner a little bit. But just a nice, well, well red play. I mean, Kobe didn't fiddle with the ball at all. He knew that Herta was open right away and the defense was adjusting. And he got it down to him in the corner and got it. game winner right there.

It's a great play. Bill, the way that this team has played of late, you know, Trey Jones goes out, he's the hero of the Minnesota game. And now as we kind of approach the trade deadline, what, six games away, it feels like they're starting to round into form, and they're going to give the front office some things to think about heading into this trade deadline, correct? Absolutely.

They're playing real well, and it's kind of weird the way the season's broken up right now, and I was looking at that. There'll be, after the, not the trade deadline, but after All-Star break, there will be 27 games left. So I kind of broke down the season for the first 27 games, then there's 28 games until the All-Star break, last game being Boston. And the Bulls started off, 12 and 15 in the first 27 games. I believe there'll be 15 and 12 or 15 and 12 by the all. than the middle 27 games, which we're in right now. But they're playing so well right now.

Obviously, with a four-game win streak going on, the offense is flowing. The defense is better. I mean, really, we're not a good defensive team, but it's better than it has been. And obviously, when you're shooting the three-well, which is what we've done, the last four games. And you guys talked about it just before I came on. And so we beat Boston at their own game shooting threes. And if we're hitting our threes, I really honestly, believe we can compete with any team in the NBA. And Billy Donovan made reference to it

a game or two ago when it's pregame that we have to do it together. And if we do do it together, like the other night in Boston, how do you beat us? Because everyone can score. We had eight guys in double figure scoring. Nine guys played and Giddy normally scores double figures, but it's just the second game back. He's still getting back into the rhythm of the game, not really playing his full complement of minutes yet. And it's really going to give the front office some pause to think and say, hey, you know, what's really going on with this team right now? We're talking to Bill Winnington, the Bulls Radio Network analyst, and three-time NBA champion here on Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670 the score. It was a moving tribute to Derek Rose at the

United Center after the game for his Jersey retirement ceremony. Bill, what were your takeaways? I just thought his speech to not only his teammates, but his family was so incredibly profound. Oh, absolutely. I mean, he was really, I mean, personal information that was given. I mean, some of the things he talked about as brothers and what they meant to him, but some of the things that they were going through, his mom, how much she meant to him. And, and, and, And, you know, his really is life story and part of it really personal and heartfelt. You can see that he was very emotional. His teammates, when they spoke, were really emotional.

And you could see the love that they all have for the game, but each other, but especially Derek, and in that tribute to his family and just what they mean to him, his mom, his brothers, and then his wife and kids as well. So very touching. I thought it was very well done. I've been privy to go to three banner raisies now, Michael, Scotties, and now Derek's. And they're all touching, but that was the most heartfelt and the most emotional one of all. And Derek just made it that way and really a tribute to him for what he did and said at that

and respect that he has for everyone around. And Bulls really did a phenomenal job. It was actually, there were 22,000. plus people at the game, and I believe every one of them stayed. Every seat was filled, and it was very emotional. Bill, it kind of brought, you know, another level of the love this city has for Derek Rose. When you try to describe to someone who's either not from here or didn't live through it the way that you did, what would you say was the Derek Rose era embodied?

Well, it really is where the city has. had one of their own, be that successful and really carry a team for the whole time he was here and was the face of the city. And it's really great when that happens because a lot of teams have stars. And we had Michael Jordan here for so many years. And it was phenomenal. And I don't want to compare the two or say it. But Michael was, you know, from North Carolina.

And when you can say from Chicago, and that's what Derek was, how he was introduced, that means a lot to the people of Chicago. They're born and raised here, lived up through the hardships on the south side, and Derek brought reference to that in his speech. And, you know, he overcame all the odds. And he did some really great things for this team. And that's going to be remembered now forever up in the rafters at the United Center. for the Bulls now. And it really does mean that much to see. And it's always going to.

Bill, what did you think about just the celebration of that team, too? You know, to be such a teammate and have Taj Gibson and Lou Aldang and Tom Thibito speak the way they did. How can you speak to how much of a tight-knit group that group of Bulls is? You know, it really was that tight. And those guys, you could see the love that they have for each other that they got choked up and the way they revered, I was going to say poo. I guess I could say poo. Yeah. But the way they revered him and what he meant to them and how they all interacted together.

And that's why that team was successful. And the most successful teams that I've been on in my life have been close-knit teams like that where guys really cared about each other and treated each other as family and worked together because you didn't want to let each other down. And you can see that in them and how they loved each other and talked about each other. And even Tom Thibito speaking about Derek and that team, every time they talked about it, it's always with love as family. And it is so neat to see that.

And that's why that team was successful. I wonder, Bill, tonight's game, the Lakers. could be the last time we see LeBron in Chicago. Do you say that hopingly or? Well, no, just realistically, right? Like, the man's been playing basketball forever. How do you really feel? Come on, tell me.

No, you know what? I feel like I have marveled at this man's ability to just keep coming back season after season and realizing every time he comes back, he doesn't look like a guy who's done, you know? Yeah, I agree with that. And just one of the stats I was looking at just a little while ago, I prepare for the game is, I think he's third in the league in fast break points at 41 years old.

Really? Like, how? Like what? I mean, that's just when you think about that, it's like, wow, one of the oldest guy, really the oldest guy in the league right now and just still getting down the floor and third in the league and fast break points, that's pretty amazing. So, yeah, the longevity of his career and for, you know, it's not like he's, a role player playing, you know, 10 minutes a game. He's played 30 plus minutes a game his whole

career. So it really is when you look at it that way, an amazing feat. And honestly, with the, with what he does, I mean, he's, he's on a good team now. He's, you know, arguably, you could argue that he's still the best player. I don't think so. I think the guys, Lukach is always obviously, yeah, I think he's better and Reeves is stepping up, but he's got some help and played well. And if he can accept that role, I mean, he could still play for another few years because he still adds to what any team could do if he takes that role as maybe a secondary or even third player on a team.

But, you know, what he does and the knowledge that he has and how he can help a team is still amazing. He averaged 8.2 assists a game over 70 games last year. It's just ridiculous. Bill. He makes guys better. That's what great players do. And I think the assist number speaks to that. Bill, thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate the time. Thanks, Bill. Alana. Marshal, always a pleasure anytime. And don't forget, you can listen to Bill tonight. They host, as we mentioned, the Bulls are hosting LeBron James, Luca Donchich, and the Lakers at the United Center.

Pre-game coverage begins at 645. Tip-off is at 7. On the score in the fifth. Gerald Equipment Bulls Radio Network powered by Heli Forklifts. We thought about the weather that affected the AFC Championship game yesterday. And it was brought up talking about the weather and how that will help some teams, looks outside in Chicago. But it will also cause a lot of other teams to want to build domes. That said, I hold in my hand some information that has come across my desk regarding the latest on the Bear Stadium developments and we ask the question.

Does every team need to have a dome now? We'll do it next. stadium search. And we actually wanted to begin this segment originally talking about the fact that everybody seems to be in the dome business now and they want to build a stadium. It makes sense. You get more use out of it. You can use it year round. The cost in these cases is worth the benefit. It stinks because like bare weather doesn't become as much of the thing. So that's unfortunate. So as people try to figure out entities try to figure out whether or not it's worth it to build a dome on their stadium. and you saw even Kurt Warner be upset by how much the weather factored into that game.

Of course, the quarterback wants to see more offense. You also get the flip side of it knowing that you can use it for concerts, you can use it for other events at bad times of year like now. Then the news came across, thanks to Kerry. This is from Capital Fax, FACS. Capital Facts is a pretty respected news site when it comes to what's going on in Springfield. There were a couple of nuggets in. here, mostly the reiteration of the fact that the bears were have reportedly wanted about,

give or take a few dollars, 895 million for infrastructure, just infrastructure when it comes to Arlington Heights. That in and of itself is not exactly noteworthy. That seemed to be the price. That was what a lot of people understood. That's not as much of a surprise. But as we look down, there's more details in this, Marshall. when you look at the deadlines, right? Because shovels in the ground 2025 not happening. Now we're focused on shovels on the ground, 2026.

Did you have a shovel in the ground at any time? Do you have snow or whatever? I don't shovel because I park inside and I just have like the brush and the scraper and all those. I don't have a snow shovel. Brush on the ground? Maybe a brush on the ground. Congratulations.

Brush on the ground. So here's the key part of this article here. The legislative calendars in each state, Indiana, Illinois, give Indiana an advantage. Indiana state law requires adjournment by March 14th, but Hoosier legislative leaders have said they want to adjourn by February 27th. Oh, some of y'all got spring break trips, eh? Yeah, Indiana's House Speaker said last week that he won't run a bill unless the Bears commit to moving to his state.

If he sticks to his guns, he could force the team to pick a state well ahead of of the February 27th deadline. And that's one month and one day from now. I've got to cheer, everybody. Pick a state. Pick a state. Pick a state. Hawaii.

Now, conversely, the Illinois legislature usually doesn't do much until after the March primary. Alaska. So getting something done or on the table this month would be way out of character, although it would also be a tell. I think that's what this is I think somebody was like enough of this

I got a spring break trip spring break a lot of states is the third week of March that is a thing and I don't blame anybody for being like I ruining my spring break for this

figure it out either you want to be with us or you don't here's a deadline pick a staple and so is this what it's come to how about Massachusetts

it can be nice in the summer? No. Not Massachusetts. Pick a state. I don't have another state. Iowa? Sure.

Did you say Iowa? I went to Iowa this year. Yeah, I've been Iowa. Last year, not this year. Yeah. I've been to Iowa many times. Iowa City's a good time. The air lighter had good pizza.

Listen, seriously though, I think we all have a bit of stadium fatigue. Is that a fair way to put it? Kentucky. No, not Kentucky. Kentucky. There's bourbon there. There is bourbon. Is this like when Lisa and the Simpsons had had to be Florida and Homer created the costume and it was terrible? Oh, I remember that. What about Wisconsin? I'm not Florida. I'm a monster. Lela, Wisconsin. The Dells, that Door County? I'm just saying

Wisconsin is right there. There's two parts of Michigan we can choose from. The upper peninsula and the The main part of... The hand. The hand. Where are you from on the hand? Yes. That's what this is. You're right.

It's calling the bluff. So if that's the case, we're going to find out how quickly they may be using Indiana's name or Indiana's sincerity when it comes to getting the Bears in actual stadium. They did create, as you know, an entity to put together funding for this, to issue bonds. And we are in agreement. Indiana is dead serious about this. Yeah. you don't go through any sort of the legislative rigamarole unless there's a reason.

They enacted the right procedural process to say, we would like to get this done. We are going to write a law that says we will get the taxes through this body of entity, of the public entity. You just use one of my favorite words. I just want to point that out. What's that? Rigomeral. Yes.

So if that's the case, they're serious. It's just a matter of how serious they are. and $895 million, as we've discussed, seems to be in the ballpark of what we thought the bears were asking for from the state of Illinois. By the time they get it done, it'll be a square billion. But here's the thing. It's the difference of what's left that seems to be the sticking point here.

What is the difference of what's left? Somewhere in the neighborhood of $5 billion, am I correct? That seems like a lot of money. That's just me saying it out loud. But the state of Illinois has said, we will give you the money for the infrastructure. I don't think that that was ever in question. Right. It's just the rest of it, the subsidizing.

No, the substance. Nobody wants anything subsidized because you're a company worth, what, what check evaluation, 10 billion? 9.9.9. Yeah, so rounded up. Yeah, 9.8, 9.9. So it's hard for anyone with real needs in this economy specifically to, feel that bad about the bears? And weighing that versus, are you okay with being the administration which lets the bears leave the state of Illinois? It's a guaranteed eight or nine regular season dates a

year. So I'm pretty sure that given the way the bears played this past season, people would be willing to drive to Indiana to be at a bear's home game. And if not, that's a okay. It's well within your rights. But I know people would go. I don't think they'd have any problems selling at the stadium like they wouldn't say Jacksonville. Wow. You just bring that because I brought up the tarps. Well, but it's a good point, though. And we were talking about all the stadiums that want to build domes, you know, or the cities that want to build dome stadiums, I should say. A stadium can't build itself yet. Well, the whole point is the more use you can get out of said dome, the more money it can make and profit. And, you know, you see it right now. Kansas City's going to get a dome.

Tennessee Titans are going to get a dome. And basically, I think Jacksonville is going to get a dome. If you're building a stadium now, it's to get a dome. Well, and it makes sense. Weather can't be a factor in how some of these events go. You've got too much money involved in them. You can't afford to have weather be a problem. It stinks because it takes away one huge aspect of strategy and part of football.

It's kind of like taking the designated hitter. out of the American League or adding it to the National League or something along those lines. You're changing the game. You're changing the traditional part of it. The game evolves. And this reminds me of my college roommate who was from Detroit. And he just used to be like, yeah, they won't come play Big Ten schools and Big Ten weather when both season comes. I was like, bro, nobody wants to go to those games. But I was wrong because here we have a college football playoff where they actually do play on campus really, really late into the season. Yeah. And it did affect things. It affects how you play.

But college, I don't think they're going to be as ready to build domes. But in this case, in the NFL cities, it makes sense. 815, Buffalo will be a dome. Yeah, so they don't have to worry about it there. And that's going to be big for them as well. Coming up next, Sharon Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670, the score. We are joined by Bear Senior Writer for the athletic, Dan Weirer next. I have three words for you.

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On-air contributor for 670 the score. We'll mention this mainly because Dan Weiderer said we would mention this nugget. Host of the Take the North podcast. We're going to take the north and never give it back. Dan Weidwer. Thanks, Coach. We'll go first to Dan Whedier. On Chicago Sports Radio, 670 the score.

Weezy. Dan Weider is the senior writer for the athletic covering the Bears. He is also the co-host of the Take the North podcast. And he joins us via the Circa Resort and Casino Hotline, Circa Las Vegas.com. And yeah, for everybody saying, the new Buffalo Bill Stadium, it will be a, technically it's a canopy. It's like Texas Stadium, in my opinion. But that was a dome that just had a mistake.

So they had a hole in the roof. That's not good. They finished what they could. Sometimes that's what you've got to do. But yeah, technically it's a canopy. But the point is people aren't going to be shoveling and stuff. It just won't be as bad as it used to be. Dan Weider, we're talking about the weather affecting the games.

And so that was brought up. I know you can chime in on this as well. Yeah. I mean, look, it was fun to watch the end of that game in Denver yesterday just visually. It was quite an appealing sight to see some snow football. Obviously, we got a couple games here in Chicago. month with playoff action with some weather involved. You know, I don't know which way I lean on this because it is fun to see it.

You also understand the purpose behind going indoors and all the things that you're trying to get done with that. So we'll see. We'll see which way the ball turns if that's not the right analogy, but you get what I'm saying. I think that that is an appropriate analogy for the results of that game. I said if you like defense and you like weather, which a lot of people who listen to this station do, and that was probably a game they loved. Yeah, you know, felt like Denver, obviously they missed the opportunity to put some

game pressure on New England in the first half when they bypass that field goal early. You know, I don't know. For me, I love the aggressive plays more often than not, but there's certain times where you've got to understand the situation when you're in and you're at home. You've got a quarterback two playing for you. You know, you got a chance to go up double digits in a game that there's probably going to be low scoring all the way to the end and felt like one of those ones that will haunt the coaching staff for several weeks, if not months after that game ends.

Dan, I'm looking at this weekend, and I was trying to look at it through the Bears' lens, and I don't know that we discovered anything major that we didn't already know in terms of the NFC West being the best division in football, and the result certainly could have gone either way. Homefield Advantage, of course, Advantage Seattle. Do you feel like there's anything you learned about the Bears plight through watching football this weekend? I don't know if you guys felt similarly, but it just felt like, you know, you were watching a party that you were a part of, right? Like, you know, in previous years, the playoffs have seemed so foreign. They seem so far away to people that have watched the Bears all year. And it's like,

that's a different realm that those teams are living in. And this year, you're just like, no, that's the realm the Bears were in. It's the realm the Bears could have stayed in if they had made one or two more plays against the Rams the previous weekend. And so I think it just does give you a little bit that hope that your window of contention is open. And then as I always say, what you're trying to do when those windows open is, you know, find the strongest steel rod you can to put in there to keep it open for as long as possible. And so we'll see what they do this offseason to kind of keep that window open because it's clearly there. And it didn't feel like any of those teams playing yesterday were worlds away like they usually are when we're watching the playoffs.

Well, and that's it is on one side of it, you have the thrill of getting to the playoffs, but then you have the agony of the pressure of, it is not just the agony of defeat. It's the agony of the expectation that occurs right afterward. I mean, we're talking about a bill's job being open because of that very thing. So when you consider the details and how much more pressure there's going to have to be to, for example, fill in the draft with lower draft picks, you know, that becomes magnified in all of this. Yeah, and you've got to make some difficult decisions with your salary cap and veterans that have high salaries and you've got to start to put that puzzle together and figure out your path to sustaining success. I was absolutely enamored by the way Ben Johnson set the tone last week and the end of season press conference and just being very firm and stating that this is going to take us right back to the bottom of the mountain.

And this climb is going to be just as grueling as it was in 2026 as it was in 2020. So there's no time to sort of exhale and pat yourself on the back and feel satisfied about what you achieved because the NFL doesn't wait around for you. And so if you fall behind with the work you're putting in and the way you're building your roster and the, you know, amount of investment that goes into sustaining success, you're going to be in big trouble. And Chicago knows that as well as anyone. We haven't had three consecutive winning seasons in this town since the 80s. That's incredible when you say it out loud. you know, and so that you understand how difficult it is and you've got to go about doing the work that put yourself in position to achieve those things. And looking at where this team is and you start trying to figure out, okay, what can be restructured and then what are the priorities?

Are you looking at certain deals and saying, well, they're going to probably have to do something with this current contract just to buy the space that they need to, whether bringing back someone who is a free agent or to go out and get a need, say, I don't know, defensive line. Yeah, I mean, you're going to have to start to work those numbers. I think one of the names that comes up often in this conversation is Tremaine Edmonds. And, you know, is there an opportunity there, you know, to move on and create some more salary cap space for yourself? Now, you've got another starting linebacker who was extended last off season, who's now going to be rehabbing from a pretty serious injury in T.J. Edwards. And so that's going to factor in to your decisions. And so there's a lot of this stuff that you can't look at.

you know, individually. It's all part of a bigger picture and you've got to start to to go through that process with Ben and Ryan together figuring out what fits do you like? What fits would you like to improve? And then how do you, you just kind of marry all that together? We all know that they're going to probably need to figure out an answer at left tackle going in the next season to give themselves the best chance. So what does that look like? Is that a draft pick? Is that a free agent on a short-term deal? You know, and so all these things kind of blend together. There's going to be a lot of discussion about DJ Moore in the next month, I would imagine and, you know, is he a trade chip? Is there anybody out there willing to give you a draft pick

to help you clear a broom there? I don't know, right? So this is all going to be fluid here in the next month, month and a half, and the bears have to be really serious about what they're trying to get done and then very calculated and how they go do it. We're talking to Dan Weeder. He is the host of The Take the North podcast, and he is the senior writer for the athletic covering the bears here on Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670, the score. We got the news about Jonathan Gant. and expectedly, reportedly, becoming the defensive coordinator for the Packers. Where do you think this leaves Al Harris,

who also interviewed with Washington? Well, I think you connect the dots with Mike McCarthy going back up to Pittsburgh, and you wonder if there will be some heavy interest there, and if so, whether Al would be ready to roll up there and go rejoin Mike McCarthy in Pittsburgh. You know, you get some good news today that Declan Doyle is sticking around

and pulled himself out of consideration for the Philly Offensive Coordinator job. And so now, yeah, like this is part of the puzzle that we're talking about. You're going to have to figure out where your coach staff is going to need replacements. And, you know, that's going to kind of sort of really crystallize here probably in the next week. And then you'll have a better feel for how you're filling in those pieces. Because I think, you know, when you look at the Bears roster as it currently stands, development of the players that are on, you know, rookie deals or guys that you're trying to bring along,

that's going to be a big part of this puzzle is can you get the most out of those types of guys? and the more continuity and stability you have in your coaching staff, the better your opportunity to do that is. And so it's going to be really interesting to just see how this all settles when all these musical chairs games are over. What's been the most fascinating opening to you, whether it's filled or unfilled so far as far as head coaching jobs? I guess my gut instinct would be to say Buffalo

just because of how high level their success has been for a long time after a period where they had no success for a long time. You know, and so they just have been such a reminder to me over the last month of just how difficult this league is, just how cruel this league can be. And, you know, I just, I haven't shaken the image of Josh Allen crying at the podium after that playoff loss as a reminder of like, even when you're a league MVP and even when you, you know, go win the division, you know, a bunch of years in a row and you put yourself in the mix year after year after year, your season often ends in really, really traumatic pain, you know. And so like this is what the bears have to come face to face with as they go forward and just understanding the difficulty of all this. I mean, how many times in Chicago if people laughed at the idea that Aaron Rogers never made it back to a Super Bowl after he won is won? Reminder, it's really, really hard to get back. You know, and so even getting there the first time is going to be a monumental challenge and just knowing how difficult this is, that one really kind of stands out to me.

Dan, I asked the question earlier, if there was anything you learned more about the Rams after they'd, lost to the Seahawks in that exciting NOC championship game. And I say that because sometimes you want to know that at least you lost to the team that ended up winning the entire thing or at least getting close. What did you think about the Rams in that game? Well, you know, those two teams have had three really good clashes this year. And it's been fun to watch those play out on bigger stages. We know the one wait in the season that got wild there at the end and really ultimately decided who was going to be the one seed in the NFC. And it's a reminder that that one seat is important because when you can play those games at home,

you've got a little bit of an edge and it helps in a lot of ways. I love watching the receivers in that game yesterday, whether it's Puka and Devante for the Rams or JSN in Seattle. You're just talking about guys that do that at a high level and how fun that is to watch when they're playing at that level. The Bears were right there with the Rams. And I really did think that those two teams yesterday were the class of the NFC. And just realizing that you were in overtime with one of them, it gives you hope, right? like it does, and that hope is very real. Now, again, it's got to be married up with all the things we talked about with this understanding

that, you know, as Ben said last week, this doesn't carry over. There's no building off this, but you do see that you are competitive at a level higher than you've been in many, many years. The nature of Ozzie Tripillo's injury and what we understand about that specific injury and how long the recovery can be and sometimes players don't recover from it, I'm curious as to if you think they will draft another, left tackle to play that position or sign someone. How do you think they're going to address that?

I mean, you have to go about addressing it as if there's nothing in place, right? Like, you just have to. And it's where you're at in your journey right now is that you have to go try to find a guy that can be a full-time starter for you. We know the revolving door that was there this year for the Bears from the first day they stepped into training camp to the last playoff game they played. You know, they just never got that position. and solidified for a variety of reasons this year.

And you have to get that solidified next year. If you want to give Caleb his best chance at taking the big developmental leap, if you want to give your offense the best chance at being one of the top five offenses in the league, you've got to make sure that you go out and you're very, very serious about what you do at that position. And so they're going to have to figure that out. What does that look like? But I would certainly put that near the top of my list along with some pass rush help,

although last week you kind of heard out of the building that they feel like some of their elevated pass rush improvement in 2026 could be from guys that are already here. You know, whether that's a Dioa Dangbo coming back from an injury, a Shamar Turner coming back from an injury, Austin Booker taking the next step in his growth. We'll see where that goes. But those would be the top of my list right now in terms of priorities would be the left tackle position and adding some teeth to your pass rush.

Yeah, they basically said we have Max Crosby at home, which is not what people wanted to hear, but that did feel like it. Dan, I also want to point out the Rams had Coleman Shelton, as their center. And you know, that's something that I think a lot of people realized or may have seen for the first time in the playoff game against the Rams. But, you know, once again, I think he had as good of a season as to be anticipated and given the Bears work to try to get Drew Dolman, I thought that that was a compelling aspect of it, too. What's interesting about that, Leila, is that you're talking about Coleman Shelton having a really

solid season with a very established veteran as his quarterback, whereas I think one of the underrated values of Drew Dalman was how much he could take off Caleb's plate and how much he could help Caleb with the stuff at the line of scrimmage and being able to really kind of free his mind in that regard. And so it is kind of a win-win when you look at it through that lens and you get a guy that's going to be back at the Pro Bowl games this week for the first time and just really brought that extra element to your quarterback. Nothing against Coleman Shelton, but he's able to go turn a lot of that other stuff over to Matthew Stafford, who obviously has seen it all over the time he's been in the league.

And there's another great reminder of a guy that, like, you know, he's done it at a high level for a long time Matthew Stafford has. And, you know, he gets the one run to the Super Bowl a couple years ago. And really, you go look at his playoff history. There's not much beyond that. And then also, you pointed this out on your Twitter feed, big ups to Bears cornerback Nashon Wright, who has been added to that Pro Bowl games you just mentioned, Dan, as a replacement for Quinnian Mitchell. A nice reward after a breakout season with nine takeaways. So that's good news.

I think he deserved to be recognized. It made sense as to why other people may have been selected before, but that was great to see. Pro Bowl games will be back near his hometown out there in California as well. So that's a fun little sort of footnote on his storyline. But yeah, good little reward for a season that was very deserving of it, in my opinion. And so it's good to see Nashan kind of get that last piece of punctuation on the year that he had and the breakthrough he had under, you know, the guidance of both Al Harris, as we talked about earlier and Dennis Allen, who found ways to give him a role that mattered. And he sees that opportunity and he went a long way with it. And now he gets to go enjoy the Pro Bowl because of it. I'm so curious, Dan, do you get time off now? How does this work? I mean, I know you're

not used to working and covering the actual beat this late into the season, but hey, here we are. Yeah, it slows down. It'll slow down a little bit. Now, I always remind people that the Combine comes a knocking, you know, and I think we're like four weeks away from being an indie for the Combine. And so, you know, we'll have some content here over the bridge here as we cross it. But it will slow down here, which is a beautiful thing, Marshall. Believe me, it's time to take a deep breath and sit back for a little bit and hopefully reconnect with my family for a few weeks. It was good to wake up on a Sunday yesterday and not have to go anywhere. So that was a fun piece of the journey to lean into now that we're here.

Yeah, what is Weedsie's first, like, item on the agenda now that you have a slower season? For what? For personal levels? Anything. Your actual first item on the agenda? I'm looking to just, like, dive into Netflix sometime this week and catch up on, you know, five documentaries that I've gotten my list, right, that I haven't gotten around to see. And so we'll find some veg time here. That's my top priority.

And then we'll get into a simulator somewhere here soon and start to get the golf swing in shape for when the weather breaks. We can't obviously take any outdoor swings anytime soon. As an Odyssey employee, we do have a golf simulator. So if you have an Odyssey email address, you can get up there to our golf simulator. Where is this at? You don't know.

Okay, Grody's a bad teammate. Yeah, it's at the upgraded gym. Yeah, where was Grody on this? Grody should be told us. Do you host a show on our network or not? You do. Like, I'm coming in to co-host with Speigs later this week, and so I may get there a little early.

And get loose, you know, to get some swings off. I think that's an excellent idea. You need to have a conversation with, well, Grody, really, but either Ryan Porth or Mitch. Or at least Ray. Dan, I got you. We're sounding this out loud. This is great. Dan, I'll bring you there before your pre-show meeting when you're in.

What day you're in? Excellent. Excellent. I'm in. Yeah, what are you in? What day are you hosting? I would be there Wednesday and possibly Thursday as well. All right.

Oh, so you're TBD. well, well, well, we're getting answers on this show. Sounds like we've had some determinations made, perhaps. Our schedule. Still working some pieces. Our schedule looked like, how do I put this? It looked like a starting rotation for a bad team in August. Why are you bringing the White Sox into this?

TBD is like, when TBD is your fourth or fifth starter, we just wanted to know. Not that you're our fourth or fifth starter. Just say, you know, when you're looking at it from a calendar perspective, I just didn't know it was happening. So now we have some answers. Dan, this has been very informative. Thank you. You got it. We'll talk to you guys soon. That's Dan Weir, who we're going to try to hook up with the amenities of our building since he's an employee. I put that on Grody, squarely on Grody's got to tell him about stuff like that. Does he even know that Dan wants to play in the golf simulator? I feel like they spend enough time together that they should know each other's wants and desires.

I mean, I've known Dan a long time, but this is the first I've heard of it. But this is why we ask these questions. Good job. Good job, little. Love it. All right. Coming up next year on Rahima Hirus and Grotie on 670, the score. How do I put this? We have an interesting piece of audio from Eric, from Andy Reed on Eric B. N. Me that I think we should acknowledge. But then additionally, we don't know if this is goodbye for a major star. And then on top of it, if it isn't a story we told you about earlier, should we touch it on at all? Should we, we, we, we, we, So should we just do it all? I like potpourri.

We'll do it all. Next. Rahimi Harrison Grody. The great Kevin Harlan. I just pulled through the Taco Bell drive-through, and I've got a couple of big, nasty, Supreme burritos right here waiting to beat. You know, the first thing they ask you now,

are you using the app? The app, no, I just want my burrito. I don't want to use an app. Bring a lot of mild sauce, because I'm going to squirt it all over the plate. Put some hot sauce off on my burrito, baby. Rahimi Harrison Grody. Midday's 10 a.m. to 2 on the score.

And picked up by Janice. Janice over the mid-court line's going to dribble it out. And Janus, all the way to the rim with a window, right-handed slam. Are you flat out kidding me? Seriously. This is Rahimiris and Grotie on 670 to score. We have a little bit of potpourri, if you will. It's kind of like one of those jeopardy categories where, you know, it's all a little different. So I'll just give you a preview of what we've got. You could call it the request line if you want.

I see what you did there, Tyler. Number one, we're trying to figure out if this is LeBron's last trip to the United Center. The reason why I ask is he 41 years old and the Lakers are here tonight. And the Lakers crowd, whether or not you want to admit this, brings a little energy to the building. And then my favorite part about it is the Bulls crowd brings the retaliatory energy to the Lakers fans who are in there with energy that they brought themselves to the building. Wait, wait. I'm following you and everything you just said,

but I feel like tonight will be less of a Lakers crowd more of just a straight-up LeBron crowd. Also, there's that too. And LeBron famously is wearing a patch to commemorate himself.

I can't get on board with that. I cannot get on board with that. We haven't discussed it because, well, what is there to say? The patch has a color that represents every team he's played for.

Throughout his... That's a fair assessment. So, yeah, But like why did the legal out of where this patch is the thing? Because he's old. Is it because he's secretly retiring? Because he's old and still doing it. And maybe he is secretly retiring.

So there's that. There's us trying to figure out what LeBron is doing, Evergreen. Then there's this note that has been posted via social media. Stop me when you may have heard this already. The Milwaukee Bucks are coming to the realization. that training Janice and Tadacunpo might be best for both sides, per Jake Fisher. Layla.

This is news? Didn't we know this? What do you mean coming to the realization? Well, I think a couple of things have happened, right? Janus gets hurt and is going to be out four to six weeks with a right calf injury. That's well beyond the actual trade deadline. The injury plaguing our association at this time, is it not? No, but seriously.

It is the injury of our times or the Achilles. And it's the precursor to that, the Achilles injury. So you have to be careful. That's why Kobe White out here has played one back to back all season long because then he felt something to his calf and they had to shut him down again. So it's going to be interesting with five games and seven days this week, what the Bulls do, including a nice little best of three against the Miami Heat. I don't know if you saw that on the schedule because of the makeup game from the mop,

Mopgate. Would you say that it is a playoff series of sorts? I think to me it's going to feel like a play in series, but yeah. Of sorts. Who's counting? So back to that Jake Fisher tweet that you were talking about. In the story, here's what's said. The buzz was building all week long.

Numerous NBA front offices began operating under the belief in recent days, arguably with greater conviction than ever before that a Janus' Unus, Conte de Cumpo trade before the league's February 5th trade deadline at 2 p.m. Central had become unexpectedly possible. That wasn't the case back in January 8th. That's two weeks ago and some change, where Janice insisted he would never ask for a trade. But now it looks like the bucks are ready to listen to offers. And this would be a nice time to have, I don't know, a first round unprotected New Orleans Pelicans pick.

They don't have that. They don't. Yeah, that went to another team, actually. The Atlanta Hawks. Because they decided to trade with the pelicans. Behind the Bulls. Because the Pelicans wanted Dere Queen. Who was on the Bulls radar?

Yeah. Something happens to the Bulls. They have players that you think they would draft on their radar and then they veer. It's the veering for me. They fall in love with teenagers. There's a joke in there somewhere. When I look at the report, though, I don't necessarily, I think this is more of the official announcement.

Lou Canellis talked to us about this months ago. Well, seemingly months ago. It may have been like several weeks ago. Where Lou had the report that Janus's people had approached the Bulls about a possible trait. It had since been refuted, at least by our tourist Karasovas that we understand. However, we don't necessarily know who was approached the Bulls either. We know the front office made sure to clarify.

But I wonder if there was maybe something else going on. Like were there other discussions like this between Janus's camp and others in the league? This is like the worst kept secret. We all knew that at some point this had to be done. Yonis had talked about it in the offseason prior to this about discussing wanting to play for a big market team. What's interesting about this is because he's out for so long, like basically a month. a month to a month and a half, they're 11th in the standings,

a good two and a half games back off the freaking hawks for the 10th seat. They're not even in the play-in. And they're probably not going to get back into the playing because they've got injuries to him, Kevin Porter. They've got a bunch of entries. They are a hurting basketball team.

The Dame Lillard, Trey, didn't work out. Sure didn't. And I think that that was probably the last swing here. But regardless, I think what we're seeing is with the trade deadline being next week, this is, I doubt they move them before next week, don't you think? Unless, hmm, unless some Luca Donchich type blockbuster happens, but I would think other GMs would try to balance the assets a little better. I mean, if you're a team like, let's say like the Indiana Pacers who, who are not going to win this

year because we know what's going on at Tyrese Halliburton. And you have a chance to get a guy. guy like, Janus, why wouldn't you pony up? Well, and that would for sure make them a contender in the East for an NBA finals how many years in a row, as long as you know he's there. The issue, though, is does it contradict what Janus said about wanting to play for a specific team? I could see Janice in Dallas. That would make all of it make a little more sense.

So you've got Janus and then Cooper Flagg? Yes. and then Anthony Davis goes the other way or to a third team in a three-way deal. But Anthony Davis is now injured. He has a hand injury. You know who else is injured? John Morant, sprained UCL.

A lot of these guys that have been talked about is possible players who would be moved by the February 5th deadline, I can just say next week, they're now hurt. So you're kind of rolling the dice or if you don't need immediate return. Well, and my option is always

when in doubt do nothing, which has been what the Bulls have done in years past prior to what they did dealing away Zach Levine. They've got a bunch of guys who are, like, at the season ended right now, they'd have seven guys that'd just be free agents. They have, yeah, they have, and that's the issue. You want to get something for some of these guys. You don't want another situation to happen like with what happened with Andre Drummond.

We're not only do you not get the postseason result you desire, but then you could have had two second rounders for him and you can't get him. it's an interesting situation to be in and I just wish the Bulls had more draft capital so they could operate with a full deck. Now I mentioned there was something else that had come across thanks to our group thread here on Rahimi Harrison Grotie. And this was sent to us by Tyler Beaterbaugh. This is a tweet from 96.5 The Fan, which is out of Kansas City. That's our sister station. Andy Reid sitting in his office and what appears to be on a Zoom.

And the quote is, he's going to be very direct with the players, very direct with the coaches. It's a different flavor. Andy Reid on rehiring Eric B. Enemy. So you mean to tell me that they go through all this Matt Nagy redemption tour and we find all these receipts. all these receipts where people are bringing up previous stories that were say in the athletic for example about how met Nagy wasn't communicating with his players and then there it is that's the quote from andy read we have the audio a let's listen he be does he he's gonna be very direct with the players very direct with the coaches and it it's a different flavor uh but both have been very productive in this system here. So I think it's a win-win for us that way. But there's nobody like E.B. there's nobody like E.B. on the field that way.

That's one of his. And with the players, he does a great job there. Did Andy get an email while he was talking? Did you guys hear that little sounder? Might have been a tweet notification. He definitely didn't have his device silenced. You think Andy Reid's on Twitter? He would have to be on Twitter in order to have a tweet notification.

Okay, and Instagram. I'm very compelled by Andy Reid getting some sort of social media notification. It's a different flavor. But Andy is direct to the room with you right now? Thank you, Matt Nagy, Graphic. I'm starting to put pieces together in this thing. What are your pieces being put together telling you, Leila? He's not interviewed for the Brown.

He has not. Okay, so as far as we know, that's not an option. And he's not on the list at all. It's not that he has yet to interview. He's not even on the Brown's list for whatever reason, whether it be Matt Nagy's own choosing or the Brown's choosing. Now, listen, I don't want to discredit anybody here. That very well could have been Matt Nagy's choosing.

And I'd have been like, I see you. Fair enough. It is fair enough. That's the other thing. If he didn't want to coach the Browns, I get it. You always want to save up a little for what we like to call the blank you money. F, whatever you want to say there. Just a little emergency fund to where you can leave on your own terms confidently.

For some of us, that requires less money. Like me, I have no responsibilities. Others, when you have a family, maybe a little bit more. But always something you want to have in mind if you can. Don't you have like a pet or a plant or something? My Zizi plant is very resilient. doesn't need a lot of... No. At one point it was growing too much because I was feeding it sun and water too much.

And it was starting to take over like Audrey too. Okay, poison ivy. I see you. But the point is, I don't blame him. I just think he's starting to run out of things. And once people talk, that makes it a little bit more difficult. I can't wait to see where Matt Nagy ends up next season. Not this coming, but the season after next season. Credit to Eric Bandyme, though.

I like to hear that his directness and communication skills are a reason the chiefs wanted him. All just seems very interesting. Or does it? Okay. It's a different flavor. He said both flavors were effective. It's like if Andy Reed was out of ice cream. He'll take chocolate or vanilla.

I promise you that. He's not going to turn down the ice cream cone. What if the flavor was something else entirely? Like rum raisin. I think Andy Reid would be a fan. I don't think there's... Has anybody ever actually had rum raisin? Is it a real ice cream flavor?

See, that's it. When you have to ask. Fair. Like, I'm not talking about legit flavors here. I'm not even talking about Neapolitan. Raisin brand. I like the cereal. You know me.

I love boring cereal. You know that about me. I love boring cereal. Prune flavored ice cream. When I was 17, I loved grape nuts. Great nuts actually have some sweetness to them. If you add sugar, Grody backed me up on the grape nods thing,

but we got to get him some info to Dan Wheater about the golf simulator. Okay, adventures in coaching. I don't necessarily know that the coach of the winning NFC team headed to the Super Bowl thought this through as he said it out loud. We will examine next.

Rahimi Harris and Grody, midday's Tyndal 2 on Chicago Sports Radio 670 the score. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670 to score, and there was an interview that was making the rounds yesterday during the NFC title game. Seahawks head coach Mike McDonald was interviewed by King Five, one of the local stations in Seattle. Their call letters are K-I-N-G. Their channel is five. This is not hard to figure out where they're called King Five. So take a listen to what he discusses when it comes to seeing his family.

during the week. I actually think I'm here less, which is I hope, I wish our, some of us, our coaches took that as well. But, you know, on Thursdays, you know, I don't get to see Jack throughout the week as much. So Thursdays I try to get, which is today, I try to get home pretty quick to be with him for maybe a half hour, hour before he goes to bed. And then I, I got a setup at my house where I can go. And then I work on the game plan. But it's able to spend some more time at home and be with Jack. And also, it kind of lets you, it lets you kind of get away from everything and kind of see things from a different perspective and it keeps you fresh, you know,

so it's been helpful. His son is Jack. So he sees him for 30 minutes a week during the season? I know head coach has put in a lot of work. But that may have not been what he had hoped. It may be what he can do. But I don't necessarily know that it was

what he thought it was going to be. I would say this. Jack is one year's old. Let's be clear. like he's, you know, five or six, he's one. So I don't know. But yeah, it doesn't sound great. Early child development becomes more and more prevalent when you see adults in our nation. I mean, that's a loaded statement right there. There's a lot of different directions you can go with that. Yes, and sadly, behavioral science dictates it as well. No, I'm not saying anybody's like,

I'm not saying anybody's needs or not getting, you know, being met here. That's not it. But isn't this kind of like the life of a coach, though? When you're talking about the best of the best, no time wasted, you cannot do enough. We just had the head coach of the Bears. Ben Johnson, what did he say once the season ended? Get away from football. Because when I say they're fully immersed in it. He said that to his quarterback.

Yeah. Do you know where I think Ben Johnson is right now? Not at home with the fam. I think he's at work. Well, he's got, first of all, he's got to have conversations with Ryan Poles and the rest of the front office and the scouts and everything. They've got to get their plan together, the cap situation, the free agent needs. And then after all that, then he's got to be like, all right, here are our contingency plans in case one of our or more, Eric B. Enemy, one guy, if several of our assistants leave, what are we going to do?

It's a lot. I'm still laughing about the Eric B. Enemy being direct in that being a different flavor. I need like Kramer on movie phone. I need you to just tell me the name of the movie you want to see. Just to be fair, he did say both flavors have been productive. I just want to make sure we don't lose sight of that because he gave the hat tip to Matt Nagy. What does the scoreboard tell you? What does the record tell you?

Listen, the enemy wasn't with them last year and they went to the Super Bowl. They did win a lot of one possession games to get that done. they lost a lot of one possession games this year. One run games. Baseball sneaking in on you. One possession games. It's sneaking in. I have been thinking a lot about baseball ever since the Sir Anthony Dominguez signing for the White Sox.

I'm not going to lie. We all have our reasons. We want to end our show in the same spirit that we began it. I'd like to play Tyler Buehter-Baus open that he began our show with today, honoring the now late Terry Bors. So the... Chicago Sports Radio 670 to score. Terry Moore's Brian Hanley.

I have an induction. You seem resigned to the fate after the game that there wasn't much fire in you and you sort of stood up before the media and said, well, you know, this is the way it is? Are you resigned to this fate? We're the same guy that wrote about me when I did have the fire.

That was the wrong thing to do. So who you crapp? Well, I'm just asking... Don't crap me. No, no, no. I have an injury last year during the season that kind of shut me back. But it didn't bother you to say before,

last year's training camp began because that was the rumor that you knew you were hurting and that you came and tried anyway. Not to my recollection. So it was all accumulated during last season. I believe we had a bad connection. Did they sell crack door to door? Yeah, but who said this? Just like Les is calling you giving traffic boards.

A texter said that? You know why? Les cares about mankind. In the afternoon when I would drive back to the city, Boers and Burstein, right? That was the show. So I got my fill of that, and they made my hour-long drives memorable. Memorable, right? Well, we banned a little bit of the creamy.

It's creamy. You're flying boars, and everybody gets peanuts, and if you have an allergy and die, we just... Screw you. Stop flying. Your comfort is not more important than the other 140 people on the plane. Now we're talking. Lizard bastard.

Get off the point, then go somewhere else. Then don't take her out of plane. Drive, ass face. So my favorite thing that's happened in the three hours that we've been here is watching Terry and Layla talk. Like just seeing the two of you interact because you're the two people that have done the most with the least. Well, you know already, don't you? I'm grateful to them being so kind to me today. I appreciate them.

And I appreciate them in general. As I've said before, and I wrote that without guys like these and women like, There's no show, there's no Borgian Bernstein, nothing happens. So they're the ones, you know, they always say they're grateful to me. No, I'm grateful to you. So how do I say goodbye? I leave feeling great about what's happened in the last 25 years to the station and better yet about what the future is.

Because I used to worry about the future. I used to think what happens. What happens now when all the veterans are gone and we're all done? I don't worry anymore. I don't give it a second thought. There's plenty to go around here. and there will continue to be at the station. How do I say goodbye?

That was Tyler Buterbaugh's open to our show. If you missed it, we are going to honor Terry Boers tomorrow with a celebration of life from 12 to 7 right here on 670, the score. Terry Boers, gone too soon at 75 years old. Matt Spiegel and Anthony Heron are next.