Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - Full Show — January 27, 2027

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

Leila Rahimi and Marshall Harris discussed the Bears' expectations for the 2026 season and broke down the Bulls' 129-118 loss to the Lakers on Monday.

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Okay, thanks. Bye. Rahimi Harrison Grody. 10 to 2 on 670. Philip Rivers took himself out of consideration for the bills. head coach job, what's next for Mr. Rivers? We all seem to understand that the true value of Philip Rivers, getting a job and extending his service time in the NFL,

was that he gets five more years of health insurance for him and his very large family. You know anything about kids health insurance? Why? I thought he said everything was fine. Diana Rusina, who had this news, and then Mike Garifalo, who said, Sounds like he enjoyed the process with Buffalo, but now isn't the right time for him or his family. My family. Sounds like Wifee might have had some input on. You want us to move where?

We're putting the house on the market. Where are we moving? Is the house haunted? I don't know because his kids are having kids. Like he's to the point where they're self-policing and whatnot. He is a grandpappy. Not ignoring that fact. I don't know that it's like Joe Flacco where he just wanted to have an uninterrupted meal alone.

I'm bad. Will Brinson, senior writer for CBS sports, NFL writer? Maybe the tweet of the year, it's early. Philip Rivers pulled out. Certainly wasn't expecting that. I know he's Chance's Dad more than I know you're mine. And I know I'm Chance's Dad because my pull-out game week. Lela Rahini, Marshall Harris, Mark Grody, Midday's 10 a.m. to 2 on Chicago Sports Radio 670, The Score.

Oh, good morning, says Tyler Bueber. to the rest of the world. That's why you play Jenga on the first date. Let them know. Let them know. Oh, my goodness. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670 The Score. I needed that laugh.

Thank you for that. As did I. I always need a good laugh. Always. There was a time where I was at a McDonald's drive-thru and I was having a bummer of a day and I was getting coffee. And at the time, I was more physically active.

I was, you know, shooting every day for a TV station, 25-pound camera on my shoulder, like 30-pound tri-pad. When you said shooting, I was like picturing you at the range. No, no. Shooting video. A little skeet. Yeah, no. I have shot clays, yes.

I keep it to just clay. You know me. I'm just a duck hunt guy. There you go ahead. But so I was, yeah, you carry 75 pounds of equipment every day. You work out to carry it. So needless to say, I could treat myself a little more at the time. So I was like, hey, can I get their frozen coffee?

You know, not the ice coffee, but the frozen. in like the frappe that they call it. I pull up to the, to the drive-thru. And I was like, no whip, if that's all right. You know, the treating the self was just the fripe. And then I get to the drive-thru, and the woman at the drive-thru goes, you said you wanted extra whip, right? And I was like, aw.

She's like, just kidding. And she gave me the trick. I was like, yeah! It would have been better if she said, okay, we got you. Put a little extra nay-nay on it for you, though. Well, I loved the joke. So point being, I love a good laugh, even when you can make something out of nothing, So that woman at the drive-thru still brightens my day.

Over 10 years later, I still laugh at that a lot. And, yeah, the Tyler Beterbaugh Open did it for me. So we get to have a smile on our face today. And we get to have some jokes and laugh about the drama going on in the NFL. And meanwhile, I wouldn't call it drama with the Bears. Because I think it was more of a whose responsibility was it. Game is never won or lost on one play. And the fact that we have to bring it up.

not that we're bringing up old stuff, but when somebody new comes into the discussion who's of consequence, after the Bears and Rams loss and the final Bears play that occurred in overtime, which resulted in the Camcourle interception, it's good to have another voice. We hadn't heard from DJ Moore, as we've discussed. He wasn't available in the locker room on locker cleanout day. But friend of the show, Jared Payton, and WGN Sports,

credit to them because they will do a lot of Bears off-season interviews. and they got to talk, Jared did, with Antoine Randall L. So it was a great conversation, especially with Antoine Randall L, being a local guy, talked about, you know, the joy of having a quarterback as a Bears observer, now on the Bears team as a coach, being in Chicago, talked about that, just Chicago having a quarterback, talked about the expectations for the season. We're going to get into that in our next segment. But then he also did discuss DJ Moore.

and I would say that Ryan Poles and Ben Johnson in the press conference last week were very HR about their answers, right? Like what was your takeaway when you heard those two talk about DJ Moore not being available? It was our show partner, Mark Rodie, who asked that question and gave the context. What did you think when you heard them speak? I felt like they were kicking the proverbial can down the road. Like this is going to be addressed. They understand it's Chicago.

it's not going to go away. But at the same time, I don't think it's going to fester like some of the other things. Like, if you go back to early in last off season when we learn about the Seth Wickersham book and the excerpts from that book and what it said about Caleb Williams, like, that's a situation where like Cables get to get to the podium as quickly as possible address it so it can be over because it was not going to go anywhere. Nip it in the bud, as we said. Nip it in the proverbial bud, mayberry RFD style.

And guess what happened? Once he addressed it, then we all moved on. We did move on. But so this, I think, is similar but different. And here's why it's different. Because no one's questioning DJ Moore's effort level, I think. I think it's just a clear explanation that Ben Johnson did give about the miscommunication, which obviously Caleb Williams also said.

And the accountability was eaten up, imagine this, by the head coach, which we kind of talked to Tim Jenkins, our quarterback expert about, our guru, our film guy, about the head coach going into next season. That's just another area they have to work on where they have to make sure everybody sees each play, the field, and coverages like Ben Johnson does. And say what you will, I did see a lot of people questioning DJ Morris effort.

I did see people online asking if he was fully running out the play. And unfortunately, that's something that I feel like built from a video where he came off the field hurt. You know, a couple. That was two seasons ago. and it looked like he was lolly yagging on the play.

I didn't think that was the case. Furthermore, keep in mind this. And I don't know why it didn't come to mind when we were first discussing it. I think it was the sting of losing the playoffs, being so close, knowing that the Bears were not in the NFC championship game, the absorption of the season.

But Tim Jenkins called it out pretty well when he went into his film study regarding Alamedes Akia. for example, and how no block, no rock did not happen midway through the season. He didn't block it, a horrible game blocking, and I forget who it was against. And then his targets did get limited. Oh, in a hurry. They fell off a cliff.

The other part of that was everybody else got targeted more, DJ, Rome, Colston, the like. I'm not trying to pick on Alameda Zakias. But the point is, when the ought to seem to not be there, when the effort was not there, when you didn't do the thing coach told you to do, you saw the consequences. So if that had been the case with DJ Moore to a significant enough pattern, you would have seen consequences. Instead, you saw plays of confidence.

So I want to keep that in mind. Instead, you saw DJ Moore make huge plays for this team catching game-winning touchdowns. So let's listen to what Antoine Randall L said to Jared Payton, because this is new information and this came out yesterday. If you missed it, WGN has a YouTube page. This is courtesy of WGN sports. When I turned the film on from last year, all right, before we got here as coaches, and you turn this film on from Carolina, you say, man, there's something missing, really.

It's something missing like this dude, not that he isn't still special, but the special doesn't show up all the time. Well, for me, this year, the special was on display in terms of his route running, in terms of his run out to catch, blocking for his teammate, in terms of him catching the ball. He had some unbelievable catches this year,

all right? And the effort that he put in to become a better player in the off-season and as the season continued went on was great. And what you expect as a coach and what I wanted to see as a coach began to show up. We had a long conversation before the season started just about my expectations,

where I came from in terms of, hey, blocking for your teammate, the run out to catch, the block out to catch, all these things. We're going to be football players and not just past catchers. For DJ Moore, that showed up like never before this year.

Like, this was for me to be able to see him go out and go, call it above and beyond this year, than the years people have seen him do it in the previous years. For me, for me, I don't know anybody else, but for me, that was great to see that progress. And again, you go back and talk about, hey, we need a big play. We turn to DJ Moore.

We need to play at the end of the game. We turn to DJ more. Third down and two to three, third down, four to six, whatever it is. Let's try to get him the ball. and he showed up. And again, the catches that he made over and over again throughout the season have been, were amazing.

And then you, again, you talk about the guy in the room, which is a big deal. When you come into the room and your veteran is DJ Moore and you speak to your veteran about what you want to see your room to look like and he begins to leave that, that's when you, all right, he gets it. He understands team. that was Antoine Randall L.

Local product, Bears, wide receivers coach. Speaking in a way that I think we all needed to hear to give this more context when it came to how DJ Moore is thought of on the Bears. And frankly, from somebody who's played the position, which I think gives extra credit here since we hadn't heard from DJ. Well, I think the other thing that makes Antoine Randall Wells worse, count a little bit more, have a little more zip, not just because he's the wide receivers coach, but because he's the assistant head coach. So you know the direct line he has

in a different way with Ben Johnson and maybe with the front office even in these discussions that they're having to have about how do we want to prioritize, whether it's managing the current cap with the restructuring of salaries versus who we're keeping. I found that to be a high level endorsement, a public endorsement of really what DJ Moore has meant not just in a simple catches situation, but also his impact on the receiver's room as a whole and the team, therefore. DJ Moore played all 17 games. He had 50 receptions despite his targets being cut from about eight per game to an average of about five. He ended up with 85 targets, 682 yards. The average is 13.6 per catch. Colston Loveland was the Bears leading

receiver in the regular season, 16 games, 58 catches, 82 targets, and 713 yards. For the rookie tight-in, that's outstanding. And what you want is to have more targets on a team. There's no doubt about that. But that means that somebody else probably isn't getting theirs as much when you're trying to establish the league's third best rushing offense. So that's where some of this comes in. But that did not, to me, sound like a coach who was very, very, very, you know,

very candid with Jared Payton. That did not sound like a coach who doesn't have confidence in DJ Moore. That sounds like a coach who wants to see him come back, understands that the position comes with responsibility, especially when you're the highest paid player on the team per A.A.V. And knowing all of that, still saw a guy produce in many different ways for the team. It makes me consider the play differently when I hear that as well. And it's okay if it was a miscommunication.

Don't forget what Danny Parkin said, which was there was a discussion about involving a new route process in this particular play. If they wanted to incorporate this in a new route concept, which you should do, you should add to your game in the playoffs. And unfortunately, that was an issue. That made it make sense to me. But I understand why emotions, even now your head coach and GM may still run high, two days, three days after that game ended.

That makes all the sense in the world. It sounds crazy to say, but on that drive the entire time, I was like, be as conservative as possible. The Rams defense is tired. You've got them worn down. You already got your stop. Now you just need to take care of the football, and you're going to be able to slowly but surely matriculate down the field.

And that's why the Kyle Minangai on that play, being open as the checkdown, that's what I wish Caleb Williams is done. But at the same time, I understand why he went for the jugular, because that's what they've been doing all season, right? That's what Ben Johnson has instilled in them. But I think I don't put that on DJ Moore as much as I put it on Caleb Williams, because you, and clearly he thought DJ Moore was doing something.

DJ Moore was confused about what was happening, and therefore that's what led to the interception. I don't put it on like, this is because a bad play was made. It was a miscommunication. You just can't afford to have a miscommunication in that moment. Yeah, I don't necessarily know that I blame one or the other more. I don't know that I put it on Caleb Williams more than I put it on DJ. I don't know that that's, I hadn't thought about it that way.

Well, I think the reason I'm saying that is because Caleb Williams ultimately has the decision making in that situation. And he can always opt to check down, get three or four yards and see what Manangai, Angry Runner, as we have talked about, can do after he gets the ball in his hands. That's all I'm saying. And look, ultimately it was a great season. It is a learning point. We knew things would be difficult for Caleb Williams going from step one to whatever you want to say that was, step 20, I guess. And I understand that they'll come back next year. They'll be more evolved, more resolved.

And Antoine Randall L is a great guy to have as one of the links of this team from the staff to the players. Well, there's no doubt. And I think that that's something where when you put it together, like, that when you consider Antoine Randall L's passion for the Bears which goes without saying his his devotion to the team as a coach and as somebody who grew up here and how he feels about his receiving core I I don't necessarily know that it's the answer I needed to hear but I think it's an answer that we should hear given the discussion it shouldn't ever come down to the one play we know it always seems to in the league we know that it seems to come down to one score more often

than not. But the more voices you have seeing what happened, the better because you're hoping that doesn't happen again. And we know that wasn't the only play of consequence in that game, that's for sure. There was a drop in the end zone that was pretty bad and pretty outright by a guy who you wanted to depend on in Roma Dunesay. But given all the factors into this, and we still don't know if DJ Moore had an actual, they'll never say if he had an actual concussion because he came back out onto the field. But was he 100%? I can't say that with any level of purity.

Yeah, I think the extended time in the blue medical tent tells us you're erring on the side of he's probably hurt. And the thing is, you could be hurt but not be injured. He was definitely hurt. I think everybody in the NFL in December, who's playing is hurt but not injured. Right. And so between that and, you know, Colson Lovell and taking himself out of the game, because he obviously felt some type of way.

It's understandable. Yeah, and we're probably going to keep talking about it as long as there's new information that comes to us because that's what we do. I don't necessarily know if we're dragging on this. I think it's just the lasting, the lasting memory of the Bears' playoffs shouldn't be the final play of that drive and the interception by Cam Curl.

It shouldn't be how I remember the Bears playoffs. It should be the game against the Packers and the fact that the defense did hold the Rams to 17 points, which Seattle didn't do. So it all just makes it hard when you know that could have been the Bears in that position against Seattle. It's tough, but that's life in the NFL. You go back to the way Buffalo got exited

and released from the playoffs by the Broncos. There's so many different things that have happened to get to this point where there's only two teams left. That's what the NFL playoffs is all about. I'm just glad that we're talking about a team here in Chicago who at least got to be in the tournament. Well, and what you don't want, I think, is what we're going to talk about next, and that is this being, it can't be a one and done.

Like, that's not how you put this thing together. And Antoine Randall L. talked to our friend Jared Payton about that as well, so I think we should get into that also. And he also talked about Roman Dunezay, which I think is worth a listen to. We spend so much time on this play just because that's the nature of going over. and the nature of talking about it, that if we get to that, we'll bring that to you as well. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670 The Score. We broadcast live from our score Hyundai Studios, brought to you by your local Hyundai dealers.

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Connor O'Donnell, Jacob Stutz, and Max Curtis. Cody Westerland helps us out with our website as well. So, yeah, let's get into the discussion that Antoine Randallel had with Jared Payton. regarding the new standard, and if we've got time, we'll touch on the DJ Rome conversation, too. It's great stuff. We'll do it all next on Rahimi Harrison Grotie on the score. We're talking to play-by-play man, Kevin Harlan. You're the best when it comes to play-by-play of life. We're sending Marshall Harris to D.C. to run out of the field. Come on, Marshall. We're at home, baby. We're ready for you.

The Rahimi Harrison Grody Show. Midday's 10 to 2 on 670 the score. I think the biggest thing was just obviously making the plays that come to me, making them most opportunities. I feel like this season, I had way too many opportunities I left out there on the field. And, you know, that's never been the player. I feel like I've ever been in my career. So just capitalizing on those opportunities. But, you know, I've got to go into the offseason and put in the work to be able to do those things. That was Ruma Dunezay on Locker Clean Out Day. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670 The Score. And we're listening to Antoine Randall's conversation with Jared Payton of WGN. sports. Thanks to WGN for letting us use the audio. He talked about DJ Moore. If you missed it,

you can go back and listen to that segment really compelling when it came to what he meant to the team and also that final play we saw the Bears run offensively against the Rams. He also talked about Rome Adunze. So before we wanted to get to the standard conversation, which I think is very important, listen to what Jared had to say about Romadunze's self-criticism. I think this answers a couple questions we had about how he thought about his injury earlier in the year. I think when you look at Rome, I mean, here's a guy who understands hard work, not going to shy away from it, doesn't want to shy away from it, doesn't want to take a rep off, a playoff, wants to be in there. So we had to really, at one point we had to kind of keep him from himself in terms of, hey, let's rest his foot. not get back out there, you know, give it some time and let it heal up.

Like he was chomping at the bid to get back out there. And the criticism that he and how critical he is of himself, man, that is, that's what you want to see and hear when those things take place. When a guy takes, he takes the onus on, like, yes, I messed up. Now, I got to try to find a way to fix it. You know, yes, this is, I didn't play my best ball, man. I'm chomping at the bit to get out to get back to work to play my best ball. When you get guys who see their fault, so to speak, and go work on it, man, that's, that's easier for a coach to coach.

Because at the end of the day, like, you see it, you're going to tell him about it, but before sometimes I even tell him about different things. And again, it goes to other guys in my room as well. And I would say just most all of them. Like he wants to like, yeah, coach, I saw it. Now I'm still hitting him on it. Let him know it. But man, he's already want to go work at it and get better.

And you talk about being on pace to have such a great year and so on and so forth. So when these things happen, like there's some disappointment that takes place, you know, the injuries or whatever. So it comes down to, man, picking yourself up, continue to push forward. Hey, let us take care of why you're out. But man, get your body ready to get ready to come back. And again, next year, he'll be much better. We got some things going to work on in the offseason. But he is going to be ready to go because that's the mindset and the mentality that he takes, you know, into the game, into practice.

How can I get better in this practice? We got seven on seven. Well, how can I get better in seven on seven? We got the team periods. How can I get better in team period one, team period two and three and so on and so forth? being able to break it down like that, hey, I had six plays. Man, I was perfect on five. I got to get back to being perfect on six of them.

That's ideal. So that's the thought process that he takes into the practices, and that's how we operate. And he's going to be back full board and ready to go, I believe. No question just because he has that mentality for sure. Okay. So that confirms it, right? Pretty much.

Well. We all suspected it. I just feel like the injury, and the thing is like separating the injury from the performance, because the performance was lacking before the injury. And I think that's the thing. And a lot of what happened in the first half of the season, I just put on trying to assimilate to Ben Johnson's offense and figuring out, you know, it's new for everyone, right? And I just think the timelessness of the injury and his effort to come back, but not make it all the way back,

first time around. Remember pregame warm-ups? Oh, I remember. And Kyler Gordon, too. Knowing how good he was in college, but this isn't college, I get that. But the standard that he has for himself sounds like it's going to meet the standard that Ben Johnson and Antoine Randall have for him now. But it's just a season where it was just disappointing. And it came down to can you catch the ball a lot of times? And the answer was too many times, no.

That's it. Ben Johnson said in the press conference, we need to do a better job of catching the ball. That was clear as crystal. And so because of that, like that's it. Hi, I'm Layla. I'd like to know what's your objective? Catch the damn ball. You can't alligator-armed stuff, especially in the end zone.

And I don't think that's even the issue here. It's that when you are healthy, number one, be honest and truthful about your health. I'm not saying he was lying. I'm saying be honest with yourself. Be honest with yourself. Everybody wants to get back out there. everybody wants to play for a winning team we saw that with jalen johnson too he pushed himself you want to play for a winner poor t j edwards pushed himself that doesn't prevent a broken a broken leg like that that's a different injury

but guys were pushing themselves to get out there and once you're out there what can you bring to this team especially the secondary being a good example if an unhealthy you takes down the overall performance of the unit we can't have that once you are healthy are you doing your job? Are you catching the football enough? The Bears as a whole did not. Romadunzei was a part of that. I would say he's the leading guy that you remember between him and Alameda Zakias,

different reasons because different level of number of targets. I mean, look, the guy led the targets and he missed a bunch of games. That's what's crazy about it, right? And he was supposed to be because he is in that same draft class. He is a top 10 pick with Caleb Williams. he was supposed to be the main guy at some point. DJ Moore, receiver won, but Rome was supposed to, at some point,

I would say, eclips him. I think that was the Bears' original plan. If you remember how Matt Nagy spoke to Rome on the phone at the draft, he said, just like we drew this up, right? Well, Ryan Poles. Yeah, no, did I see Matt Nagy? He's on my mind, and he said an article sitting in front of me. We'll get into that later.

That's at 1125. So, yeah, it was Matt Eberfluse, who called Roman, was on the phone saying just how he drew it up. That's all well and good. Things change. Like, I don't need some wide receiver one to be anointed or, like, that you need to maintain who you thought that that player was prior to this offense being installed.

Like, I care about this offense. I care about this head coach. I care about this group and how they want to move forward. But either way, catch the football. So now that that's established, what about, overall for the season. Antoine Randall L. said this to Jared Payton regarding the expectations. We take a break because we lost, and that's the way we look at it, and we know that the team won't be the same. You know, you won't have all the same players. It just doesn't work out like that.

But with that being said, there is the siege that we planted in terms of this is the norm. And the norm is getting into playoffs and have an opportunity to go win the Super Bowl. That has to become the norm. And that's what we want that to be. And obviously, the norm is to win it all, but you've got to get in the dance to be able to do it. Just get in the dance. I've been in the dance, man, as the one seed,

as the two seed, as the six seed when it was only six teams in the, on each side in terms of the NFC and AFCs. So you've got to get in. And once you get in, that's when, you know, obviously you want to be able to be playing your best ball. So we plan it to see, we got it done this first year. Now, we're starting out in the spring. Guess what? We got to build it all over again.

Yep. Because it's not, hey, we're just going to leave off a little bit of what we left. No, we got to build, build it again and get and surpass what we left off the previous year. And we can. We can definitely do that. It's just a matter of us getting back to it. But what I like to say is careful planning and hard work, produce prosperity. You take shortcuts.

It leads to poverty. We're not going to take shortcuts. We're going to plan well, get to work, and expect us to be able to prosper for sure. I love that. That's courtesy of WGNTV sports. And it's a good way of saying petty wise and pound foolish. You make out a corner and it may be satisfactory to begin with. but if greater investment isn't made, you lose the ultimate goal.

I just want to remind people when Antoine Rendell is speaking to his personal playoff experience, he understands it. You know why he understands it? He was on a Pittsburgh Steelers team that I covered. That was the sixth seed in the playoffs and went on the road for every single game and won every single game to win a championship, a Super Bowl. And that's when that type of thing did not have. happened. Right. Not common at all. Ben Rothensberger, I remember win it for the bus because it was Jerome

Bettis's farewell year and the Super Bowl was in his hometown of Detroit. And so Antoine Randallel L can speak to how difficult it is to not only just make the playoffs. He played for a winner, like a real winner in the Pittsburgh Steelers. They don't lose much over there. But also what it takes to win a title in different roles. Like Randall L was that dude. No, he was. And he just brings that innate energy. And you see it, you saw it when he was the wide receivers coach with Detroit. You see it even in the interview with Jared Payton.

You see it when you see him on the sideline. Like I'll never forget, he'll run with guys down the sideline. He's still got speed. Yeah, he's that type of person. of those magnetic personalities where you're drawn to what he says, you respect what he says, and then you also want to play for the guy. That's a fantastic combination. And it makes perfect sense as to why Ben Johnson brought him over here. And if the goal or what you need to tell the team is, just get in, we'll take care of this once we get in, then you can't argue with it

not working. It definitely worked this year. The hard part is maintaining the standard. The hard part is knowing that in the past we've seen one and done's. In the past, we hadn't seen a playoff win, 15 years between the two. So that becomes the next challenge. Do I feel more confident in this group?

Absolutely. Do I worry about adjustments or if they can make them? No. And that's something that I don't think I've been able to say for a long time. When you think about what goes wrong after you have the type of season the Bears have,

part of it is injuries right and you just have to expect that at some point your season's going to be somewhat derailed by an injury or two or if you're the lion several but can you overcome that because you have good depth that becomes one of the things like when i focus on wool how would they not get back to at least being a playoff team next year and that's the first thing that comes in my mind because that's the most common thing that happens in the NFL but despite the possibility and the likelihood of some type of injuries if you just look at you just look at the most common thing that happens in the NFL but despite the possibility and the likelihood of some type of injuries if you just look at at Ben Johnson being a year wiser, like they're still ascending. The number of players on this roster who are still ascending. Caleb Williams, we just heard from Roma Dunesay, or about Roma Dunesay, and we heard from them too on the way in. And if it's Caleb Williams and it's Roma Dunesay and it's Colston Loveland and it's darnel right even. He's like, oh, I want to be first team all pro. And whatever happens at left tackle and Luther Bird and the third, there's so many guys who you know are not to the peak of where their career is going to be. Like there's Joe Tuny-level guys out here, Kevin Byard, who you worry about, hey, can they

just maintain where they are because they're so good. But I love the upside of so many different players on this roster. Yeah, that's the beauty of having a younger team when everybody's moving up together. But I think this is something to keep in mind. If the coaches are telling you what their standard is, if the coaches are telling you a Super Bowl team is what they are trying to coach. That means that the front office needs to be held accountable for a Super Bowl team that they need to add to in the draft. That means that in games we watch, the team needs to be held accountable for the type of games that we have. That it can't just

be necessarily the upside. Consistency has to be part of this as well. That's what makes us challenging. That's the devil in the details. That's the difference between going from good to great, or in this case, better to best. So, that's the part where if they're communicating it, it is okay to be a little bit harder on your team. It's going to be okay. You know what winning actually feels like now. You know what winning in the playoffs feels like.

Yesterday was the 40-year anniversary of the Bears winning the Super Bowl. I would like for that to happen again. But not another 40 years. You're saying more recently. Precisely. So that's that is where that comes in. When the coaches are telling you how they feel about the team, when they're in public telling you the standard that they are holding them to have, it is okay to level up as well. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670 The Score.

We have a shortened show today for a very, very big reason. Tune in today from 12 to 7 p.m. For honoring an original, a Terry Boar's celebration of life, which will include former co-workers of Terry's, as well as current and former score personalities. The show is hosted by Matt Spiegel. It will be a true celebration of Terry's life. That's today, starting at noon on the score and the Odyssey app. Last night, the Lake Show came to town to the United Center. And I thought, you know, the leading score in the league of Luca Donchich and LeBron

would be the reason the Lakers were winning this game. But I did not prepare for what Marshall says is the true reason. So we're going to discuss that next. Rahimi Harris and Grotie. Midday's 10 a.m. to two on 670 the school. Kobe's fast, almost intercepted by LeBron, but Bezellis recovers. He threw it away. Loravia on the runway. And LeBron changed with his third dump on the ball game.

Got it, count it, foul. Hayes with a handoff to Luca, lets it fly, left side three, and a splash as he stares down the bull's bench to his left. with 42. That was Chuck Swersky and Bill Weddington on the call on the Bulls Radio Network. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670 to score. Lakeshow came to town and dropped 129 points on the Bulls. Lakers beat the Bulls 129 to 118. The league's leading scorer, Luca Donchich, had himself a night.

46 total points for Luca. It's absurd to say. In 38 minutes, 46 points. He was 15 of 25 shooting, 8 of 14 from 3, 8 of 12 at the line, which was the real deal here, to go with 12 assists. LeBron, I don't think it's his last game with the UC, but he played like a man who was inspired, especially the first half. 24 points for LeBron, three dunks, he even made a three. Five rebounds, three assists. Oh yeah, Luca had seven rebounds because he's out of this world.

And all of that, despite all of that, you tell me that's not the reason. and the Lakers won this game. I think you're right when you say LeBron played inspired. Luca also, but let's take a look at why, before I even tell you why. This team last year got beat twice by the Bulls. And we all remember what happened when Josh Giddy hit the full court, or excuse me, the half-court shot. I was there. You were there.

Also, Josh Giddy stole, like outright picked a ball out of LeBron's hands to help them stay in that game. You think LeBron remembers that? but you know what they also remember that game wasn't even a week removed from their first meeting with the Lakers in L.A. Do you remember what happened in that game? They did beat them. They didn't beat them. They beat them down. Didn't they score like 140 some odd points in that game?

146 to 115. Yikes. I forgot about that. So that's what I'm saying. And that was with Luca, wasn't it? Wasn't that with Luca? Both those games were with Luca and LeBron. So my point is they may have had this date circled on their count.

calendar. Oh, yeah, we got to get our, sorry, Mark Grady's not here, get back. And get back, they did. And so. We just scored 20 in the third quarter. So despite saying all of that, and they came out and LeBron was dunking early, Bulls, though, kind of tried to get their composure back. They were only down four after the first quarter. Now, in the second quarter, because they turned the ball over 10 times.

And it was a true team effort, Leila. Seven different players had at least one turnover in the time. second quarter. Seven different players. So it wasn't like one guy was doing it. I thought Kobe looked the most kind of uneasy in that he was trying to force things. He was trying to answer the bell, if you will. But you didn't need to do that.

And I thought at halftime they were able to kind of settle down. And they come back and they get all the way within one point in the third quarter. And then the turnover's rear their ugly head again. And that's when Luca had 20 points in the third quarter and kind of gets them some space. and they get to about seven, eight, nine points, and they couldn't really make a charge after that. But the damage was done in that second quarter. And remember, Luca and LeBron come out inspired

because they got their asses beat last year. That they did. You know? Like, you can chalk up to Josh Giddy as like a miracle half-court shot, but they choked away that game because it wasn't just that shot. It was like three possessions before that where they turned the ball over and they looked. The steel, yeah.

Yeah, there were some bad turnovers and bad passes by the Lakers to get back in that game. and then lose it. But in the game in L.A. In which both LeBron and Luca were out there, although the minutes were limited because they were getting tow up from the flow-up. The Bulls beat them down,

and this was the Lakers' call for retribution in this game. And the reason they won the game, back to the point, it wasn't LeBron and Luca that salted this away. It's because for the first time in a while, the best player off either bench was not in a Bulls uniform. The depth is the key to the Bulls' winning. and beating teams who have real stars, all stars, if you will, with future Hall of Famers and Luca and LeBron, Rui Hachamira comes off the bench to nail nine of 11 shots, including

four threes, and the inability to guard him effectively is what was the difference in this game. Oh, yeah, Rudy shot, Ruiz shot lights out, man, 9 of 11 shooting. I mean, that's it. You know, four or five. Remember the behind the bag pass from Luca? All of it. Yeah, Luca was. Because meanwhile, Luca was thrown up heat checks, like the half-court heaves. I think there's a couple of truce in this game that kind of exist in the NBA. Number one is there are certain teams you just do not try to run with Golden State being an example, number one. You know, peak Golden State, that's what would happen.

You know, Peak Steph Curry, Clay Thompson, and the crew would come in. Everybody thought they could run with them. They couldn't. And the Bulls have actually used that to their advantage now. this is a team who runs. But I feel like in the spirit of shoot or shoot, maybe we saw a little bit of that happening with Kobe. He's trying to make some things occur that weren't exactly falling his way.

You know, he's still getting back to his form. He still ended up with 23 points in the game. But the bench contributions outside of Iyo were paltry for the Bulls. You know, Giddy comes in off the bench. He gets 19. Patrick Williams got seven. Iyo had 20. But outside of that, you know, it's Dail and Terry.

Lockland and Ulberg had some a minute at the end, you know, Javon Carter admitted at the end, but Kevin Hurter didn't end up with any points, you know, and he was the game winner

in the previous outing. So his 0 for 5 from 3, I thought was the biggest difference maker in this game. If you look at the plus minus in this game, like LeBron is a minus 14 in this game. LeBron. LeBron is a minus 14 in this game.

And that gives you an indication of how it can be very inconsistent. Yes, and so his minus 14 helps you to understand that even though LeBron and Luca were doing what they wanted to a certain degree. Now, LeBron only had four points after halftime. But Luca, obviously, as you said, he carried them in the second half, along with Rui Hachemiro.

The Bulls had opportunities in this game to win this game. They even had an opportunity once they got back within one point because Kobe got hot in the third quarter. But understand this. They can't have the types of quarters that they had in the second quarter where you get down by 20, not because you're having an off shooting night, because you're just freely giving the other team more possession. via the turnover. And that's it. If you're talking about one of the most offensive, efficient

teams in the Lakers and you're giving them extra possessions, what's going to happen there? And even if they don't make a shot, they're getting to the line because that's what happened with Luca. You know, that's not even something we talk about with the Bulls is how much they need to get to the line. So Luca does that on his own and he's able to make that happen for his team. So that's what makes us hard. The turnover is essentially beat you. twice. And the Lakers, they had six turnovers total. LeBron had two. Jared Vanderbilt had one. And then Luke up because he has the ball so many times at three. So the final score, Bulls lose by 11, right? The difference in points off

turnovers? 11. Yeah, 23 points off 15 turnovers. That's what the Lakers were able to cash in off the 15 Bulls turnovers. And then the eight turnovers by the Lakers, only 12 points. for the Bulls. And, you know, getting to the line is definitely a factor in this. Luca gets the line 12 teams. The Bulls is a team gets the line 18 teams knocking down 14 free throws. That's it. Like, offensive efficiency is as much about getting to the stripe as anything else.

But I don't want people who maybe haven't checked in with the Bulls or watched a bunch of the games to feel like, oh, this is another example of the Bulls not having a start. That's not why they lost this game. They lost this game because they let Rui Hachamira get loose off the bench. I think 46 out of Luke is pretty stout. Go back to last year, though. What I'm saying is they can beat these types of teams. But again, the Lakers, I feel like were properly more motivated than maybe most teams of the Bulls face all year long over the course of a regular season. I do want to say I do not think that this was LeBron's last time at the United Center.

Tell me why. It didn't feel that way. Like I think there would be a little bit more pomp in circumstance. is like, think about, I was there for Kobe's last game at the United Center. But we knew at the beginning of the season it was going to be Kobe's last ride. Well, I was going to say, like, that was a whole tour. And Kobe had a special relationship with the UC. And I think a lot of the best still do.

You know, and LeBron, for example, had that. Like, he comes into the building. The Lakers fans at the United Center, too, will come in. It's an event game for them. You know, this isn't a cursory thing that happens. They only play twice a year, usually. So because of that, I think that there's usually you'll see a little bit more.

Like maybe there's a lingering on the court. Maybe there's a little bit more in warmups. And I think in this case, it was more of what you talked about. Usually, I feel like the United Center is an indicator. Like you, if this were his last season, I think you would see a little bit different rather than let's get to work. Let's win this game type of body language. Two things.

One, I don't think he's made a decision on whether he's coming back or not. I think I don't necessarily know that he'll have a farewell tour. Do you think he'll definitely have a farewell tour? Are you kidding? He has a patch on for no reason. His own patch. Right. That he created. That he gets to wear.

That's crazy. So, no, I think especially given his life with the Bulls, you know, being with the Cavaliers, we just talked about Derek Rose's jersey retirement. There is an arc there and a relationship there with the Chicago Bulls. And even when they're not as good, other teams still play them with meaning. So that to me is what I thought about when I was watching this game. I'm just not so sure he's going to have. this farewell year where, hey, this is my last season, guys.

I could see it coming to a more abrupt stop than that. I don't know. Not necessarily with him. I think that's a major changing of a regard that happens in the NBA. The league might not want to see that. They might want to see something done a little bit differently. Because imagine what that would do for the ratings as well, which are up, as I understand. They are up despite a whole bunch of streaming going on.

Nobody watches or cares about the NBA. The Jeannie Buss might not agree with your assessment about that. I mean, he may have to finish elsewhere is what I'm saying. There's that part of it. Yeah, the marriage of LeBron and the Lakers is something that's a whole other segment. Coming up next here on Rahimi Harrison Brody, we have a shorter show today because of what we are doing at 12 o'clock. That is time for our Terry Boers celebration of his life. So five on it, which is normally at noon, is next.

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This is a legendary day on the score because we are honoring a legend. Tune in today from 12 to 7 p.m. right after this show for honoring an original, a Terry Boers celebration of life, which will include former co-workers of Terry's, as well as current and former score personalities. The show will be hosted by Matt. Spiegel. It will be a true celebration of Terry's life. That's today starting at noon right after this show on the score and the Odyssey app. Now, here's question number one.

Bears offensive coordinator, Declan Doyle, is a hot name right now last week. Doyle interviewed for the Eagles OC job this morning. I'm Mully and Haw. David Hawre reported this. Declan Doyle will be pursued. This is what I know. Declan Doyle was offered the chance to be the play caller for the Philadelphia Eagles. and turned it down to come back to Chicago. David Haw this morning, I'm Mully and Haugh. The Ravens have also requested to interview Declan Doyle. On a scale of 1 to 10 on the he-gone meter, where do you rank the likelihood of Declan Doyle taking a job in this hiring cycle? I think I put it like a six.

I don't know that it's very much higher than that because now it depends on whether or not Lamar Jackson wants to work with Declan Doyle. And I don't think it's necessarily like, oh, he doesn't want to work with him. If the job isn't the right fit or something. But given the situation in Baltimore and the discussion surrounding how that went down and the fact that John Harbaugh is no longer there, it sounds like having an offensive coordinator who is in lockstep with Lamar

and is somebody who wants to work with him and adjust the offense to what the strengths are of that team is priority number one. Given that, I don't necessarily know if that's the particular job Declan Doyle wants. If it is, then it's a one or zero and one, he's gone. But in this case, Declan Doyle might just be like Ben Johnson, where you waited out, everybody thinks you've interviewed well, and then different opportunities come up the next year that may better suit you. So I'm looking at this, and I put the Higone meter at a 7.5. Here's why. This does come down to what other jobs can you foresee being open in the coming year, right?

Because it's one of two things. Either you don't feel like you're ready for a head coaching job, and you want to get one more year under a guy, like Ben Johnson, whose play calling is so phenomenal, and you feel like you haven't quite absorbed all that you can absorb from him. And you may have just been like, I'll go do these head coaching interviews for the experience of interviewing to be an NFL head coach. I think as an offensive coordinator who doesn't call plays, it's like, do you have enough

to go out on your own and call plays? Or do you not? And it's interesting, if he turned down the job for the Eagles, well, what would be the difference between that and the Ravens. Well, number one, I would say maybe less dysfunction. You've got a clear MVP when healthy in Lamar Jackson. You saw how they started the season when he was unhealthy and how they made a late charge and push and almost got over the mountain, if you will, at the end of the season. I really do feel like Declan Doyle is going to be a head coach in the NFL. It's just a matter of how long is it going to take? And staying with Ben Johnson might be the best

route. The 2022 coaching cycle was summarized last week on the social media's only two people out of that coaching cycle that had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

eight, nine, ten. Ten. Just like this year. Only two were retained. So Matt Eberflus, number one, Nathaniel Hackett, Lovie Smith with Houston. Doug Peterson was in Jacksonville at the time. The Raiders hired Josh McDaniels.

Mike McDaniel was with Miami. Kevin O'Connell with Minnesota. So there's one. Dennis Allen with New Orleans. Brian Daibel with the Giants and Todd Bulls with Tampa Bay. Wait, who's... I missed the second one. Who's the still...

Nathaniel Hackett. Yeah. It's worth putting out of your mind entirely. Don't you remember when they had to bring in the helper? This is bad. Because of the fourth quarter situations that were occurring. This is bad. Although I think with...

the Ravens, like the Ravens is more of a sure job than the Eagle. The Eagles job, you go, you be the offensive coordinator, either a head coaching job out of that or you get fired at the end of the year. Quarterback is the difference maker here. Like, quarterback makes everything makes sense. And it's interesting because one is a Super Bowl MVP. The other one has never been to the Super Bowl, but he is a regular season MVP. Right. So that's, that's quite the mess. Number two. The Browns announced on Monday night that they completed a second head coach interview with Rams past game coordinator Nate Shieldhaus.

No, it's not. No, don't do it. Wanted it to be shieldhoss. It is Shilhoss. It is. Don't be singing the house song. Jill Hoss. Okay.

You know what you're also singing? No, you can sing the show house. No, you know what you're also singing. Scorehouse. Hashtag scorehouse. That's right. Mitch in every single tweet about Scorehouse.

Every single one. It was Scorehouse. Then hashtag scorehouse. Just in case you didn't know about scorehouse. Well, the real thing I was trying to workshop in my head was Ramstein, like, Du Haast and work in that, but that's too much. Shield. Shield.

Yes, exactly, exactly. But I was like, you know what, Tyler, that's going to be too much. I think it's perfect. Back to the question about Shield Haas. Later that night, the bills announced that they also completed an interview with Shield Haas. According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Buffalo job has now been filled by their own offensive coordinator, Joe Brady.

With all that being said, do you have? expect Nate Sheel Haas to withdraw his name from the Browns head coaching search anyway, because it's the Browns. Man, this Browns situation's getting hilarious. So just to be nosy, I went over to our sister station in Cleveland, Ken Carmen and Anthony Lima. You got that quick, too. And Ken Carmen was like, I have a feeling that Browns are going to make a hire today.

They did not. And I was just wondering, like, When you're in it, you're talking about it completely differently, as we know. You're trying to see where the team is coming from. You're giving some people the benefit of the Dow. You understand the intricacies of the process. Not us. I just get to swooping and be like, what the hell's going on over here?

Oh, you think you're making a hire today? Today of all days? So? I think it'll happen. Okay. This goes back to what we were just talking about. You got to put your, you guys. You got to put your chips in the right pile, right?

You got to put your, if you're rolling the dice, the Browns is not somewhere I would want to be. I love that they on the team website are keeping an interview tracker. Yeah, that's pretty common. But it's... Is it long, the list? Yes. With Shohas, I would just stay with the Rams. It's a very insulated situation, continue to learn, and wait until a better opportunity comes up.

Todd Munkin's going to coach that team, I think. I like that idea. But if he doesn't, he has a job. I like that even more. If you like a coach, do you like the idea of them having to coach the Browns? No. Yeah, that's really what it comes down to. You know who should coach the Browns?

Matt Nagy. There it is. There it is. There it is. More on him in a minute. Number three. It's five on it on six 70s score with Laylorah, Rahimi, and Marshall Harris at noon. Huge show honoring the legendary.

bores, but here's question number three. On Monday, Cubs left-hander Justin Steele tweeted the following. Quote, was just brought to my attention that Nico Horner wasn't on the top 100 list. I wouldn't take that list very seriously, if that's the case. Whoever made it was obviously not trying to be locked in or take it too serious. The numbers speak for themselves. End of Justin Steele tweet. Do you agree with Steele that Horner was snubbed from MLB's top 100 list? I like that Justin Steele took the role of Cubs commenter, you know, whenever he got injured and then he would tweet here and there. And I appreciate a little bit of commentary out of Justin Steele.

I think he got pretty good out of toward the end of the season. You know, one of us, so to speak, but different because he works for the team. So he's on to something here. Why wasn't Nico Horner mentioned? Nico Horner is third in world leaders among NL position players last year. It was Geraldo Prado. A guy named Shohei Otani, who I hear might be pretty good, was 6.6. Then it was Nico Quarter.

Then it was Juan Soto, Matt Olson, and then PCA. Who is in that list, correct? He is. So therefore, I think based on that alone, not to mention the I-test, not to mention that he was second in the National League and batting average, which still matters to me. Justin Steele is correct.

He should be in the list. Well, the man's 27th in total war period. So like, there's that. Also that. That seems like it's pretty high when you're talking about top 100 guys. I think it's interesting that, you know, you got to go down to 35, I believe it is, before you find the first cub, which is Alex Bregman. And then the next cub on the list at number 40 is Pete Crowe Armstrong.

wrong. Then after that, it's Michael Bush at 67. After that, Sayy Suzuki at 77. Just within the Cubs, like I think Nico Horner's better than Sayas Suzuki. Just on the Cubs. I don't think that's even a question. Some of the other guys on this list, and I'm very curious because there's a lot of catchers at the end, like middle infielder's like short stops, like the Willie Adamas, Zach Nito. Colson Montgomery is on the list of 88. Well, well, well. How the turntables.

And it's just like you go down the list and you're like, are they better than Nico Horner? And it depends, I guess, on how you're looking at it. But I think Nico Horner should be in this top 100. No, he should be in the top 100 for sure. This is a Jalen Johnson situation. Ooh. I don't think that Nico cusses on the mic like Jalen, though.

Nobody reacts to not being a lot. the top 100 like Jalen did. I wish you would do it though, but that's not Nico's personality. Oh, that would be entertaining. The best part was when I was tossing to that sound, you know, as we like to say, when I was throwing to it, it was like,

here's Jailin Johnson. As I go through these rankings, I do notice something. A premium seems to be put on power. Because you got guys like Carrie Carpenter and his 26 home runs making the top 100. Well, and that would make sense for Colson Loveland, why he's on there.

but also Colston Colson has done it how many times? Like how many seasons is he played in Major League Baseball? But that would make it make sense. It's kind of like with Zips, you know, that positional value weights the algorithm. Like shortstop inherently is going to be worth more short than third. So I don't know.

I think he should definitely be in there. Number four. The NBA announced Monday that Bulls Forward Matas Buzellis has earned his third Rising Stars selection. I think like when you make the rising stars, by the way, you got to have like a flute, like the Power Rangers, like Bo-Boo-Boo-Boo-Boo-Boo-B-B-B-B-B-W-B-W.

You have made the Rising Stars. So is he the Red Ranger? Yeah, we'll give him the Red Ranger. That makes the most sense. Shout out to all the Rangers, man. We're just making up colors for Rangers. I love this. I don't even know.

That was a little bit. Oh, is that before your time? After my time. Power Rangers after time? I never watched Power Rangers. Oh, you know what? I have younger siblings, so I just like, by osmosis, pick up on all this stuff.

That's why people are like, oh, you're old? I just didn't watch it. I don't know. Like, I had other stuff going on after school. Well, yeah, you missed out. You missed out, Leila. But enough of the Power Rangers for now. My brother loved it.

It's a great show, in my opinion. Back in the day, that's what I thought. But anyway, back to Matas Buzellis, the Rising Star three times over. What does that tell you about the way the league is viewing the development of, as CHSN's Stacey King would call him, Little Boosyvert.

Number one, Little Boosy Wirt, is a great nickname. It's one of the league's top. You know, Stacy's the best at the nicknames. Also, Vucci-Mane, come on. Yeah, Vucci-Mane is also tremendous. Little Boosy-Vird is, there's something about the contrast with modest and Little Uzi-Vert

that just makes it perfect. I have nothing else. I actually think that this is a good sign because for a long time, the Bulls didn't have anybody on either All-Star or Rising Stars list. And that was kind of an indication of how the league felt about the team. So in that alone, to get the nod outright for a Rising Star for Modest, that is an excellent indication because they're typically not wrong on these lists. It's who you will see in the league.

And that's the beauty of having the second year players on there too, I think. So I thought it was a great sign. I texted you guys that I was encouraged by this. I remain encouraged by this. I think Modis Bezellis is a step away from really taking off as an NBA player. And I love this because how many three-time rising stars guys do you know? That means you have to do it in the G League. You have to do it as a rookie and you have to do it as a second year player.

That's hard to do. Also, did I see Matt McClung scored 40? last night. Did you see Matt McClung, much like Modis Buzels, also turned down an invite to the NBA dunk contest, so he will not be out here for the four Pete? What are we doing here? Why did he turn it down? And yeah, why did Modis turn it down? Why are all you turning it down? Do you remember Modis's appearance in the dunk contest? Oh yeah, that didn't go. But that's, hey, hey, LeBron shows you that even of 41, you can redeem yourself from your previous year. You know who was never in the dunk contest, but promised who be in the dunk contest? LeBron. Exactly.

I wasn't talking about the dunk contest I was talking about the loss to the bulls here I was talking about dunks and listen not hyper dunks not dunks just dunks you and I needed basketball season

to come back for real we needed this some people are just now waking up to basketball season as you guys know I've been on it since training camp but I love it you know how the sports talk calendar works I'm telling y'all today once modest Boozellis takes this off season

to tighten up his handle put a little more strength on it. He's going to be playing, wait for the cop, like Jalen Brown. Write that down. What? He's having an MVP season. MVP like season. He's also a finals MVP, so there's that.

He's having an amazing game. I'm saying that's what modest is going to look like. Also, real quick, I forgot to mention this. Johnny Barks on Twitter accidentally answered a spam call today. And it was the Cleveland Browns wanting to interview me for their head coach. job. I said no. LOL. Wow. Number five.

For question number five, let's go to Marshall Heather, Marshall Heather, Marshall Harris for a score, winter weather update. Were you going to say Mathers? I was. Let's do it again. Let's go to Marshall Harris for a score winter weather update. Marshall WTF. Listen, I get it. You guys want

you want to know that it's going to get better that just because the high today is 17, things are looking up. Ooh, 17 is better, actually. I noticed the warmth on the street. Let me tell you something. On Saturday, according to ACUweather, the temperature gets up to 23 degrees. Let's go.

Let's get outside. Next week, now this depends on your weather service. According to the weather channel, it doesn't get to freezing. But according to ACUweather, on both Wednesday and Thursday, of next week, we will be above freezing at 34 degrees. Here's the bad news. We don't get above 34 degrees on this calendar, according to ACUE weather, until the 16th of February, where it's supposed to be 41 degrees for two days.

Are we just, are we wearing shorts? Is that when people wear shorts outside? You know that happens. 41 degrees. I wouldn't do that because there's precipitation, aka snow in the forecast. I saw, I saw a man. get on the blue line yesterday in shorts outside. Just ridiculous.

Inevitable. There's always one dude who's like, oh, it's above 20 in December. I'm wearing shorts. Well, maybe not December. But it's usually somebody who gets tired about this time of year of the cold. And the second it's like slightly warmer, they're in shorts. I salute you guys. I'm pretty impressed by the flex.

But it's an amazing skill. I don't have it. I'm telling y'all, it's all relative. A day like today is a. a great day. Not because it's super warm outside, but as long as the sun is shining, I'm good. It's when it's overcast for days at a time. And I don't remember what the sun looks like.

That's when I struggle. I know. The sun is a real game changer. We should all revolve around it and everything. I think it's that important. I think you're right. One day in April, it was like 54 degrees. This is like five or six years ago.

And I was like, this is warm. Take top. Live on it. Yeah, that's a good place to cut it off. And that's really what happened. I had suns out guns out because I was so excited about the relativity of 54 degrees. Coming up next here on Rahimi Harris and Rody, we continue with our shorter show because at noon, we are seating to Matt Spiegel, who is going to emce the Terry Boar's Celebration of Life show.

That's coming up at noon. In the meantime, we have a couple more segments left, and a former Bears head coach is saying some things that don't add up to the actual situation. So we'll do that next. Listen to Rahimi Harrison Grody on the Odyssey and IHeart radio apps. Arrogance by Matt Nagy. I had listened to Mark Grody say that so much in his impression of Wayne Larravee's voice that I had forgotten what the real version sounded like.

This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 670 to score. And the nice part about not being involved in these. coaching searches for once, is that you just need to kind of like sit back and sip or tea and watch everything unfold chaotically ahead of you, knowing that you've been a part of the process, but this isn't your problem this year. It's a very interesting feeling. It's very Wilson from home alone, just looking over the hedges into your neighbor's yard. I think he was in home improvement. And we never knew who Wilson was. Yeah, home improvement, yes. I keep saying by Neggie's name over and over again when I mean Maddie Verfluse recently,

because I always revert back to the previous person I covered if there's a similarity. Whenever I think about Wilson, it also takes me back to Mr. Wilson and Dennis the Menace. And so, yes, you're right. The links are strong and real. Yeah, the original link is the one your brain will default too many times. Unfortunately, the original link for me and the mats was Matt Nagy. And he has been a focal point, but that's because we had to live it. And I remember the, oh, he's so transparent time.

and then the, oh, these plays are fun, and then the, oh, how neat a trick play. And then somewhere along the way in the 2018 season, about December is where I started to think, oh, you sure have to use a lot of trick plays to get into the end zone. You're giving me a little PTSD because now I'm thinking about Ben Johnson because every time you describe something, it's something Ben Johnson's doing currently. So, yeah. Well, the difference is, and how many times do we get text on the score text line? Oh, he's just Matt Nagy 2.0.

No, he wasn't. The two, just like what we talked about with the Declan Doyle discussion. and frankly some of the candidates for the Brown's job. Shee Haas being one of them. There's a difference between interviewing for head coaching jobs as an offensive mind, but not calling your own place, which was the difference for Matt Nagy here. The Bears had had a different head coach in John Fox.

They rebounded, and it felt like very much a rebound type of hire, getting a younger coach with an offensive mind, which all of that was the right thing to do. they just settled on the wrong individual. They didn't do that this time. That's the difference. Ben Johnson knows how to build a playbook. He didn't rely on all this trickery to get into the end zone by the end of it

because the NFL had figured out what a lot of the plays were. And that's my issue with this. So when the alarm bells started to sound when the chiefs wanted to hire Eric B. enemy was then we realized, unlike, say, Todd Munkin, who has a job with John Harbaugh, even if he doesn't get a head coaching job, they put up the Matt Nagy thank you graphic yesterday

and then you hear Andy re talk about how direct Eric B. Enemy is and how much he likes having somebody direct who communicates there were stories about how this fell apart here go back to the athletic, go back to the

Adam Johns and Kevin Fishbane story talking about how Mitch Trubisky and wanted to meet with Matt Negi after the season and brought his playbook and Negi didn't show according to that story and that's where things really turned for me. In that moment, I thought we owed Mitch an apology because he was at least trying. So we talked about this in our pre-show meeting.

And Ray, you and I feel like are a little bit on the same page when it comes to the, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you can revise history to an extent. But you can't do it to this extent. Yeah, you know, Matt Naggie is walking around basically like, woe is me when he reflects on the time in Chicago, in my opinion. And it's just, you know, And this is unfair maybe to him, but I just think the guy's a jerk. Look, Mitch Trubisky was overdrafted.

Mitch Trubisky was never, never amounted to what he was drafted to be, but it was kind of an impossible position for the guy that he was put in. But Matt Nagy, the reports of what happened at the end of his tenure and the way he kind of, at the end of Trubisky's tenure with the Bears, was, it included, like, like a meeting, a postseason meeting in which Mitch Trubisky showed up and waited for his head coach Matt Nagy and he never showed up. So that for me has kind of colored how I feel about Matt Nagy. Like look, am I, I wasn't a fan of Mitch Trubisky, the football player, but he seemed like a nice guy. I mean, that's it. Yeah, he did not draft himself. And nobody deserves that kind of treatment. and Matt Nagy just, ever since then, you know, that and between his attitude, like, where he was getting questioned about not running the football enough and he was telling reporters,

I'm not an idiot. Like, I don't know, I've just, this guy, I haven't liked him for a while, and I still don't like him. I mean, that's it, right? There's a famous quote by Buddy Ryan saying, like, Chicago and Philadelphia doesn't suffer fools. I don't know the direct quote. But basically, you might be able to pull this off elsewhere. but you can't do it here. Like people will see through it.

And I think that that's what happened. So we were talking about this and just the way Andy Reid was talking about Eric B&Me. And then Ray was telling us about this article that had come out by, he's a fabulous reporter, Nate Taylor. He's covered the chiefs for a long time. He's now with ESPN. And then there was the quote in the Nate Taylor article

that we have on tape from Matt Nagy about his time with the bears and how this is going for him in that coaching cycle. Listen to how he addresses it. The last three years for me have been a little bit more unique where I don't have the quarterback position. It's more of an organizational standpoint structure-wise. Being there from a former head coach helping coach readout.

You know, anytime you look at what went on this year as an offense, you're frustrated, you're disappointed because in the end, it's your job as a coordinator to make sure that everything's done the right way and that you succeed and that you win. And that didn't happen. And so that drives me, though, that motivates me. And I don't run from that. I think it's very important.

I've been through a lot in my life in coaching. And so this kind of stuff is when you do it with good people like we are right now, it makes it easier. But it doesn't make it fun. And it's an emotional sport that we all play in coach. And for me, it's motivation. I can just say that. Ideally, this question will come next week, but we won't get you. I guess I just want to gauge your desire and readiness to become a head coach for a second time.

Sure. I really feel good about where I'm at, and again, here we are at the end of the season. So this is the time where this stuff comes up. I've prepared for several years since I went through it at the right time. And everything that I went through in Chicago, it all happened for a reason. And be able to come back here in Kansas City and be here with Coach Reed and all these players is special. So we'll just continue to work through all that and see whatever happens. but, you know, it's fun and it's just that time of the year, you know, so be ready for it. So you don't have a quarterback position. So you're not coaching the centerpiece of your team and arguably the NFL?

And everything that happened to you here? Everything that I went through in Chicago was a, it all happened for a reason. Oh, poor Matt Neggie, everything he went through here. He didn't do anything wrong. Everything just happened to him as a head coach? Is that what I am to understand? It's no one's fault other than everybody's. What in the hell are we doing here?

So when I... Like you're in charge of what would you say you do here if you weren't the head coach here and you weren't in charge of a lot of the decisions that were made? Because I remember when you gave the play calling duties away and then the offense started working and then you took them back. Was that everything that happened to you? He clearly made decisions that were bad

in the long term, well really the short term to the long term. He even contradicted his general manager's decision and quarterbacks. Yes. I think the biggest thing is in a position where you need to have even more accountability because in theory you're far enough away from the situation to do some true not only reflection but some introspection. That seems to be lacking here? Very much so.

And that's the thing. Like I would have so much more. for Matt Negi in 2026. If he, and maybe it exists out there at some point, maybe he said something like this and I haven't seen it, but I just haven't seen it. There was the potash article, right? That's true. Where he went into the things that he would do differently, like delegate.

But you need something to do if you're delegating. Well, my thing is it doesn't strike me at any point since his exit. And really during his time here, because I was only here for the tail end of his time here. It didn't seem like he was a leader of men at any point. That was the direct quote that they wanted in a coach. Now, granted, that was more said, you know, after Iber flus. But that's what players want. I just, it's a lot of, like, it's all the right things, but they're just not in order.

Like, he says the right stuff. But the responsibility has to be taken. If you're a head coach, you have to take some responsibility. I think he tried with the initial article that came out. But this is a, in being transparent, you're telling people what actually happened. The idea, though, that he was powerless here could not be farther from the truth. This was a man who won head coach of the year. And they tried to replicate that 2018 season success.

And thank God for Antoine Randall L. earlier today to tell you that simply getting to the playoffs isn't enough. like your job is to get in and then once it is then we cook and this man's still trying to get into the end zone and the fact that he openly admitted that quarterback is not part of his purview

when quarterback is Patrick Mahomes when arguably that's how you got this particular job here to begin with it's rich it goes beyond that though and here's why I think part of the problem is

Matt Nagy does view himself as coach of the year and so if that's the lens through which he's looking like I was at the top of the you can't you got to throw that away be like I had a good season we can argue about why I had a good season but the ultimate thing is I was it not able to maintain grow it evolve on that and so that year shouldn't be

the focus because that's not the peak, or at least it shouldn't be. And if that is the peak, that means everything since then has been downhill and not in a good way. I just don't know who he is. Well, I know who he isn't. He's not a good head coach. And so when this all started, you'll remember a couple months ago, I was like, why would you hire Matt Nagy to be your coach? What is he proven to you? I was like, maybe he should just go somewhere being an offensive coordinator where he actually calls plays. And if he does that, he does that, he's like, why would you well in that job, then you get the right to maybe be considered for a lot of these head coaching.

So when he came out of the gate, when the offseason started and people were like, Matt Negi, well, what? I can find better candidates. Well, I do appreciate him putting himself out there, and I did think he needed to talk. And I would have liked to have heard what he thought he learned. But I'm not sure I heard anything of the like there. This is a man who told us he wanted to find the whys. where was the why in there where it made sense? The whys?

And to that end, Nate Taylor has written articles about why the chiefs wanted to hire Eric the enemy. And in there was a discussion about the lack of a counter, which has always been a concern of this station in particular on this head coach, that Matt Nagy didn't have a counter punch when in-game or during the season, the league would make adjustments to him. I do not feel that way about Ben Johnson. I think they will adjust in play

because he knows how to design a playbook. But the idea that everything happened to him, you don't want to hear a head coach say that. You want to hear a head coach take responsibility. For Andy Reid to tell you all the reasons why Eric Biennamy is now the offensive coordinator and not to pretend like it's not an indictment of why Matt Nagy is no longer the offensive coordinator.

Come on. 574 makes a good point here in our text line. look at the difference between the two coaches. Negi never held himself accountable. Johnson owns his mistakes after every game. Which one shows actual leadership? Do you think Matt Nagy would ever say that it's on me

when that final play that we were talking about with DJ Moore and Kayla Williams is discussed? No. And frankly, neither with the previous head coach. They'd tell you how it was supposed to go or some other stuff. Didn't that's cute. The difference in between

getting to a playoff game and then winning one was monumental for this team in this franchise. And therein lies the difference. Coming up next here on Rahimi Harrison Grotie, we have an interesting paragraph that has been published

by our friend to Seth Wickersham. Don't worry, the bears aren't involved. Until they are. Reader's theater is next. It's just that time of the year, you know, so be ready for it. Middays 10 a.m. to two on Chicago Sports Radio 670. Safeties are high, but these guys are tight.

It's going to be hard to run in the middle. I've got to throw it. Oh, that's up it after him. And he is intercepted. That incomplete they'll call it. It would have only made a difference of a yard or two because they stop them anyway. So the Patriots take over on downs. Ah, yes. unfortunately for Sean Payton going for it on fourth and two

from the Rams 20 or the that's the bears going for it on fourth down was not the right call and yet if only he had known if only there had been some sort of indication that he might be in the same position as say the bears before him it's interesting how things play out

and you say if only that and I say if only we knew what he was thinking when the bears were going for it Luckily for us, there's an author by the name of Seth Wickersham who writes for ESPN, who happened to be with Sean Payton when that happened, and now I present to you a reading from ESPN.com from an article titled Inside Sean Payton's Fourth Down Patriots Broncos call. It begins. Last Sunday night, Sean Payton sat in his office.

at the Denver Broncos facility, watching film of his opponent in the upcoming AFC championship game, the New England Patriots. He wanted to have the Los Angeles Rams Chicago Bears' divisional round game on in the background. He turned on one of the flat screens in his office. He flipped around,

somehow ending up on Nickelodeon and Door the Explorer. He finally found the right channel just in time for the Bears to make a critical decision on their first drive. On 4th and 2, from the Rams 21, they elected to skip a gimmie field goal and go for it. The exact type of call that has dominated playoff professional and college football this season and can end up winning a tight game or be one of the main reasons for a loss. Peyton saw the Bears line up on offense, and he squinted.

Kick it, he said. On the play, Caleb Williams was intercepted, costing Chicago three points. The difference in the final score, Peyton responded, quote, why are coaches not kicking field goals, end quote, turning back to game preparation. I don't know, Sean. why aren't they? Fourth and one, maybe you want to go for it.

And then you don't get the points. You did the same thing. It's almost as though you forgot. You forgot who you were and as observer in that moment. It's easy to armchair quarterback, armchair coach, even if you are an NFL head coach. That's what I learned from reading this, Leila. you have to child-proof yourself sometimes from going back to like the inner

the inner want to the inner the inner child if you will the inner madden player if you will that too where you're the risk taker and you also have faith in your team to an extent that might make your decisions a little more diluted than before i'm looking at you dan campbell and you want to go for the throat and you're competitive and you want to do all the things and even Sean Payton, who I consider one of the most measured and experienced coaches in the league,

says to himself watching the Bears, which is a team he grew up watching, kick it. No, nobody did. Seen. So on the one hand, there's the play itself. the decision to go for it on fourth and one from the 14-yard line of the New England Patriots. On the other hand is, if you are going to go for it, maybe with your backup quarterback, you just run the football.

Not the bootleg. Yeah, not the bootleg with Jared Stiddlem. I think of like that video. I'm still going to send it. He sent it. He went whole hog. He decided to, he went his true self. Listen, I get it and then I don't get it, but then ultimately I get it.

Well, and what's even more symmetrical about that was Denver lost the game by the difference of a field goal. When you leave points on the board, you're leaving points on the board. And it's unlike the Bears game, it's not like, you know, the margin of victory was the field goal. It's this understanding. They didn't score a single point after that moment. Well, and that's it, is that not necessarily accounting for the weather, but you had enough confidence in your offense. And I did too, watching that first half the way they were moving the ball.

I understand why he thought he was going to get there again, especially with the way his defense was playing. Maybe field position gets you close enough. But they didn't get close enough to the end zone for the rest of the game. I wonder how much Sean Payton regrets that decision and ultimately sees this as how the NFL playoff. off's go because you might get to the Super Bowl and you might not ever get back again. So every step of the way, you got to do what you can in that one moment to make the most of it.

That's that heartbreak. And then it's not letting that dilute how you viewed the rest of the season. And that is a challenge. I can't tell you how many times people thought, well, if Cody Parky had just made that field goal, the Bears would go to the Super Bowl. No, they wouldn't. In fact, Sean Payton's at the time, Saints were a juggernaut. and so were the ramps.

And that was an incredible game that those two teams played. Bears wouldn't have beaten either one of those teams, not that 2018 team. I just, man, Sean Payton's not new to this, and on this day he was not true to this. It just goes to show how hard it is

to still go with what the data may say or go with what your experience was removed from it as opposed to being in it with your own team. Like that's what that's, that's what that tells me, that you have to build in a process. And when I say childproof yourself, that means hire an extra staff member if you need

to help with that type of thing. I love 847 on the text line. Better yet, did Bond Ben Johnson learn from his mistake? Learn is in all caps, by the way. Guess we'll find out next season. Does Ben Johnson think it was a mistake, though? That's the question. Like, Sean Payton is out here saying it was a mistake.

Like, he said he regretted that call, that he should have gone with his initial call. And not everybody does that. Like, Ben Johnson may not regret it. 7.04, appropriately. Sean Payton. Who you're crappin. Thanks to everybody who was a part of our show.

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