Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - Full Show — March 5, 2026

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

Leila Rahimi and Mark Grote reacted to the breaking news that the Bears have traded receiver DJ Moore to the Buffalo Bills.

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Bye. Rahimi Harrison Grody, 10 to 2 on 1043, the score. With the other guys, the one-arm guy or something? The one-arm guy? What are you talking? Are you the Avengers? I thought in Tyler's open, I heard Caleb describing somebody with one-arm. Or maybe I'm just so sensitive to, maybe I'm projecting. Who else was there, Larry?

I took over for a one-arm man. There was a one-arm man playing out. They were listening to an Odyssey through Mark Grady's mind on 104-3. It's quite the odyssey. Darnel's Bucky because he has the one-arm. That's it. That's it. See? Bucky.

Ruel is Bucky. Based on how you hear you. lyrics, this is actually a big win. I guess you're right. And Don't know right did basically play the entire season with one functioning arm. Don't mess with me on one arm guys. You know, you guys are right over me a lot on a lot of stuff.

But one arm guys, look at me. Okay? One arm wonder. Grotie, who's on your mount Rushmore of one arm guys? Name them right now. Sykes. That's right. I don't care. I'm not trying to solve a puzzle. Well, I am trying to solve a puzzle. And I just found

a big piece. Buck, Bucky. Bucky Leroo? But that's a no Arm gun. Ground ball to shortstop. The throw is to second. And again, the ball sails past LaGrange into right field. 6-30 has the right answer. Drummer from Def Lepp.

Oh, that's it. That's it. The one-arm guy from Deflepper. That four or after you had to fight with the one-arm guy? He had the soundbite correct. Caleb Williams did mention it. Yeah, see, and nobody else knew. I know a one-arm guy when I see him.

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It is Mark Rodi and Lela Rahimi in with you. And I think that you pulled a meat. Everybody does this. The receipts. Yeah. You went back. in our, for lack of a better term, in our finding the wise, we do want to know what happened and why Drew Dalman did decide to retire suddenly.

We all started going back to things he may have said or hints that we may have gotten from like Orion Poles, for example, Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams, Drew Dalman himself. And Mark, as the Bears reporter, you did that. You want to take us inside what you called the evidence locker room? Yeah, absolutely. ding-dink. The evidence locker room is in effect. And credit too, to my Take the North partners, Dan

Weider and Adams-Dazinsky. We did some of this on the TTN episode as well. And you're right. And we discussed this. Like, we're not entitled to know what's going on with Drew Dalman. Maybe the bears are

entitled to know, but we're certainly not entitled to know. But that doesn't mean we're not interested. That doesn't mean that we're not curious as to what happened. And it doesn't mean that we're not all working sources on the telephones going back and listening to audio and seeing if there's any clues or any hints because we all missed it. We all missed it. And we don't know exactly what happened.

So let me present to you, Drew Dalman, on Locker Cleanout Day, to hear if there is anything that he was saying at that moment that might have led us or one to believe that he might have been thinking about what he did and that was to retire at the age of 27 after one year of a three-year, $42 million deal. I think we're really happy with the progress we've made and with kind of the trajectory we're on, but I don't think anybody feels satisfied with the finished product. I know this is your first year here, but this team has been looking for a franchise quarterback forever.

What are your thoughts on Caleb being that guy and what did you see from him all season? Yeah, I mean, I guess first and foremost, awesome guy, great teammate, great to have around, all those things, and then, you know, like all this perlatives as a player, like, as an O-line, can't tell you the amount of times that he's helped us out when we've struggled, or make huge plays for the team to keep us in games or to win games. And so I don't think, I don't know what else you can ask for. Is there a sense that you guys are well positioned going forward, but also that it's hard to get as far as you guys got this year. as a veteran do you have an appreciation for just kind of how close you were to advancing and and do you think that might not you're more than a younger guy you know what I'm saying? Yeah yeah I think yeah I don't think you can ever really count on oh we'll just do it next year you know like that way so I think yeah you certainly like it sucks to come up short and you

you know the opportunity that you missed out on but yeah I think that's one of those things like we gave everything we had and you got to come back again next year and hope that with increased effort increased focus all those things that you'll push past that. Was that everything you thought he'd be when you decided to sign your degree? Yeah, I mean, I can't say

I had like a super firm notion with what it would be like or anything. But I can definitely say it's an incredible coach, incredible football and great leader and it's an absolutely pleasure to play. So when I hear that, I don't hear anything that indicates

at that point he was ready to talk about retirement yet or at least at least hint at it with people even in a casual conversation with the media yeah and you know that he diluted to next year not aggressively or anything like that you know it wasn't like the theme was like we got to get back out can't wait for OTAs and training camp but there was an allusion to it so it's just interesting like going back and like maybe now watch the film where is that he did was there somewhere along the line that he got hurt, but really the point is, is even right there, it's something he could have alluded if he had wanted to. If Drew Dalman didn't want to be in that locker room or didn't want to be made available,

it would have been frustrating for reporters, but he would not have had to have been there. So the fact that he was present, the fact that he wasn't afraid to talk about next year still leaves us in a mysterious position as to what the thought process was then and when this actually started. Yeah, because he actually, that's a valid point, too, is he actually addressed the media. And that's not something that you guys had happened with every Bears player last year. Notably, DJ Moore, I know you asked Ben Johnson and Ryan Poles about that, you know, and that was after a lot of discussion about the last play offensively that the Bears had this season. But Drew Dolman was there and he spoke up. And that didn't necessarily to me sound like

somebody who was thinking about retirement. Now, he very well could have been, but at least publicly, that was not the case. Yeah, and he is like one of these professionals, professional. You know what I mean? Like just from being around him in the locker room, he was always there for open locker room. He was always available if he wanted to talk to him. And when he did talk, he gave good answers. So this may have just been him being him and doing his job that he signed up for until the last very drop, even if he knew in the back of his head that he might not be back with the bears. So that's part of it as well. Well, and also just to that end, him doing his job or at least addressing media,

how many Bears players would you say actually like to talk to the media, like a percentage? Yeah, I don't know what the percentage is. Like they understand it's their responsibility. That's a great question. I don't know. But I don't necessarily know how many of them know that you know what I'm saying. Layla, that's a great question. I don't know if anybody in the locker room, like actively is waiting for the microphones to come their way.

There are some that are better speakers and that are more into it and are more genuine in their answers than others. But off the top of my head, I can't think of one single player that like really wanted the attention. And we probably don't know who those players are because we probably didn't talk to them as much. Like the players that maybe want, actually, all right, I'll give this up. There was one player in that locker room that I regret not speaking to more because I think he wanted to talk more because I think he someday wants to get into the business. You want to know who that is? I don't think anybody would, he was a defensive lineman for the Bears.

He backed up mostly, was an overly prominent. The name was Chris Williams, the defensive lineman. and I had heard that he wants to be in this business someday and probably would have appreciated a little bit more mic time. But it's tough when you're going to the locker and you know you have priorities and you have a finite amount of time. But I guess that is the one guy, I would say. And dang it.

He signed a one-year deal. So we can't just try that again next season. And if he happens to pop back up on the Bears roster, then maybe I will make it a point to bring more Chris Williams. to the Rahimi Harrison Grotie show. Maybe Tevin Jenkins. Maybe he enjoyed having the microphone.

We know Cole Comette enjoys it, but I think that's just his personality. I think Kevin Jenkins embraced the challenge. I don't know if he embraced the challenge so much as he just has that personality where it's... Well, like David Montgomery. Like David Montgomery would use it as an opportunity, but I don't necessarily know that he liked it.

No, he didn't. But he would do something when he was there. Yeah. You always knew something would be brought to the table. Yeah. I learned yesterday, okay, David Montgomery, who was, I would say with the collective media, David Montgomery was a little bit difficult because he liked to throw our crap back at us often. That's what I mean.

And sometimes it came across as mean-spirited, but then would be done with a smile. And he was always great. I was just talking about this with the weed man yesterday. Dan Weiderer, for those of you who want to know. And if you need something, if you're not what I'm saying, he's got it for you. But I remember, like, David Montgomery, if you talk to him one-on-one or in a small group, he'll give you some of the best stuff out there for sure. Oh, and then the thing I was going to add to that is, I don't know if people remember this,

but David Montgomery is a big bowler. He likes to bowl, the game of bowling. So was Mark Potash. At one point in time during a press conference, David Montgomery asked Mark Potash, said, we should go bowling together sometime. And I think Potsie said, yeah, it never happened. As it turned out, weed man, weedsy. Dan Weeder went bowling with David Montgomery and a couple other guys.

Just not like on an average like Tuesday. Probably wasn't Tuesday because that's the day off. That's fantastic. Isn't that hilarious? Yeah, bowling is, I mean, it's a great hobby, especially for a place that has a lot of winter months. So I'm into it. Like Diversity Bowl this time you here is popping. The house of the, what is a rock and roll bowl?

right by the House of Blues. Love that play. Great first date place. Great first date, like an activity place. That is perfect for it. But yeah, bowling never goes out of style. So your point about players not exactly seeking media out. Drew Dalman was doing his responsibility there.

Exactly. Exactly. And I've always appreciated when he's talked. I feel like his comments usually are thoughtful and you get a solid answer. And he also, you could tell even. when you talk to him, like he would say phrases like narrow the aperture. And we, we loved that because that was a great metaphor. So in that, in those moments, it's not like he shirked anybody. No, there was none of that. He alluded to next year. You didn't get any indication at that point

in listening back to it. I mean, even that, even that is like really pressing it to think that there's something there. But yeah, no, to answer that question, like there was nothing about Dalman's personality, his professionalism was all there 100%. We also have a bit as we continue on the evidence locker room here on Rehemi Harrison Grotie. I don't know if you guys heard about this, but Max Crosby does a podcast. And I don't know if you know, he had Caleb Williams on it. Interesting.

You've been hearing about all that? We may have heard something about it. We obsessed over that for two days. When I say we, I mean the collective, everybody's, oh my God, Caleb Williams and Max Crosby. Because we know what they were doing. Because they wanted that attention.

They knew that we would give that attention because it's Max Crosby and Caleb Williams. They knew what they were doing. Yeah, you're right. They did know what they were doing. Solid podcast producing out of Max Crosby. Yeah, we see you, Max Crosby. Solid work. Yeah. Now tell your team not

to cost us two first round picks to get you here in Chicago, where you'll be very happy. But there was Caleb Williams on the Max Crosby podcast talking about Drew Dalman. Did I have a beast of a sinner?

Yeah. He's... Dolman? Yeah, he's insane. Yeah, he's a beast. He's supremely smart, you know, really stout, you know, sinner and things like that. I mean, he's, he's unbelievable, but, you know, just helping him more, you know, building that

that bond, that belief and trust between us and, you know, what we're seeing is, you know, same thing from, you know, Ben to me to me to Drew's, you know, seeing eye to eye to eye and, you know, probably having more meetings with him, you know, throughout the weeks and things like that. See, that's the key part there, and that's the part, and we've discussed it. Just the importance, not only of that position, obviously, with the developing young quarterback and Caleb Williams, but that particular guy who is so smart and so good at identifying things and need to be identified pre-snap and helping Caleb Williams with.

and being in all of the quarterback meetings with Caleb Williams, which is unique relative to the rest of the offensive line. And, you know, that's something that we've heard from our interview with Joe Thomas yesterday. That was excellent. Olin Cruz has alluded to that and talked about that in his discussions with both our afternoon show and our morning show, Mully and Ha, today. So that's something that you hear echoed. But some are better than others at it.

and I feel like to help Caleb Williams transition into a new offense, you couldn't have asked for a better partner in that combination. That's what makes this so tough. It really does. I heard Mark Potash was on in the 5 o'clock hour yesterday with Lawrence Holmes after he was abandoned by his partner. Spiegel had to take Rubin on a high school tour, which is pretty cool. I'm looking forward to hearing if he's going to a certain high school that I live near.

But Potzi kind of had a different. look at it as in like you could get a good product still for less money now uh it's not inconceivable that you can replace drew dalman and still be in good shape my counter to that though is and i'm surprised that that this wasn't in potsey's equation the the very recent lack of success under ryan poles um and even previous to that with centers Hell, even, I mean, and we don't go through the usual litany of names, but I guess I will. Lucas Patrick and Sam Mustifer. And then you even go back to when Cody Whitehair was playing the center position.

Like he was a good set, like, okay, I guess, but he wasn't a great center. So this has been going on for a while since like the steadiness of somebody like a Roberto Garza. And then going all the way back to Olin Crout. Here's the stat. In the past 11 seasons, after a long stretch in. which Olin Kruits and Roberto Garza were the stalwarts at center. The team has used seven week one starters. That revolving door cast has included Dalman, Coleman Shelton, Lucas Patrick, Sam

Mustafa. Coleman Shelton was the center with the Rams past year. He's doing fine. He's having a nice career all of a sudden. Yeah. Sam mustifer, Cody Whitehaired, James Daniels, and Will Montgomery. I blew. I'm glad, not maybe not glad that you just brought up James Daniels because I

had forgotten that that man did play. center for the Chicago Bears. This season he was supposed to shine with the bears, he tore his Peck. Yeah. That's what happened. He did. And his center time was, I'd have to look again, but I do believe it was very abbreviated. But yes, James Daniels did play some

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people wanted to know what Olin thought. And he gave a lot of perspective when it came to, the hardship of playing the position. We'll listen back to some of what Joe Thomas had to say and put it together and understand next. Amy Harrison Grody. Can you imagine Lovie Smith doing the whole good, better, best thing? And saying bleep the Packers.

Come on, guys, good better best. Never let it rest. I'll see you on Tuesday. Midday's 10 to 2 on 1043, the score. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 1043, the score. And we are in the evidence locker room. Mark Grady found some audio from Drew Dalman when he spoke at Locker Clean Out. We also heard Caleb Williams talk about Drew Dalman on Max Crosby's podcast.

I just said podcast, okay? That doesn't mean we're going to talk about Max Crosby coming to the Bears. I just wanted to mention his podcast. Why don't you want to talk about Max Crosby coming to the Bears? We've done it. Oh. Nothing is new yet. Ray's over here saying Max already.

Max. Let's go, Max. And his podcast is called The Rush. How about that? Nothing is laid back. No, nothing at all. Do you think he added the extra X to his name by himself? Like his parents actually named him M-A-X and he's like, no, bro, I need two.

Give me two X-Xs. There's an origin story to this, actually. Oh, there is. So I'm on to something again as we investigate. This is the investigation show here today. It was because he was 11 pounds and 9 ounces when he was born. Okay. So they're like double X.

Is that what it is? Like he wasn't chill then either. He came out rushing the quarterback. How could this guy not be with the bears? Starting with his mom. The doctor said, oh, we got a football player. Do you know what's funny? Okay, so 11 pounds and 9 inches at birth is wild.

Like that is a big baby. It just sounds painful. It's a big, poor mom. So my, there is a guy. who his claim to fame was he was the heaviest baby born in the state of Louisiana, Herman Johnson, and he did indeed become an NFL offensive lineman. A little fatty baby? But not, but no, it was like, I guess, but at that point, it also has to do with your height

and just your size overall. Yeah. I mean, all babies have a little cute chub. A little bit. Yeah. But, yeah, so, and he was a buddy of my brothers, not the one who tried to play football. He has no traits, your brother. Zero.

But you were like, yeah, my. brother's friend is the heaviest baby ever born in Louisiana. Like, ta-da! Hey, if he comes to the Bears, I think I will ask him, Max Crosby, all right? So I'm really projecting now. Will you add a third X? Triple X. M-A-XXX, X.

Just sack the quarterback again. See, I knew this is what was going to happen. The whole thing just goes crazy. Herman, by the way, was 15 pounds and 14 ounces. Oh, man. Yeah. Well, and you said he became an offensive lineman? He did, yeah.

And from what I understand, like a nice fellow, at least to my brother and those who knew him. Okay. All right. Wouldn't want to face him opposite the line of scrimmage and all, but yes, that was the case. So this is just the Max Crosby podcast. See how we went crazy there? And we heard Caleb Williams talk to Max about Drew Dalman. Now let's go back to just, it sounds silly, but I truly don't.

There is no real way to describe what your body goes through as alignment in football. Is there? I feel like that's the case. We can explain it. We can try to describe it. But until you do it every day, it's really hard to understand just that aspect of the job.

I agree with that. Your head going straight forward on every single play. I think Olin alluded to something like that this morning. So yeah, I mean, we talk about it all the time. That's where the car crashes are and the trenches. So let's listen to Olin, talk to Mully and Haw, about just the toll it takes on the body,

especially having been a center himself. Who would have known? I was a journalist who would have known that? So I was working on that. My media, my budding media career was the only thing I was thinking about. Obviously being really sarcastic here. But that always goes on, as you guys know, walked away from the Saints, you know, mid-season. And a lot of that was, obviously, we didn't get along real well there.

And that story's out there with the coaches, the coach there at the time and went through some things. But, you know, really wasn't sleeping well at night, waking up with sweats, always had pain, always trying to get back on the football field, at 34 years old with 190 starts all those things were starting to creep up on me didn't like my game it was very hard to do and it just had to be worth it at that time for me so hey man listen like like i said earlier congratulations on his career congratulations the thing's done because when this game when it's not for you anymore when waking up in the morning lifting the heavy weights eating the right food keeping your weight on doing the running doing the skill work doing all the things as you guys

know at my gym, I get a chance to see a lot of guys work through and go through the work and go through the process of trying to get better in NFL, all the hours they have to put in and all the grinding that they have to do on their skill work, on getting stronger, on keeping their body healthy. By the way, guys, while you're doing that, you know, your body is taking a beating. You do have to worry about later in life. And I'm here to tell you, it's not to cry about it, but everyone goes through this, no matter what job you have. But, you know, once it's over, it's just you and your family and no one cares with your health insurance is not being paid anymore

and no one cares about all the other things that is going on in your life and you take care of yourself. No one calls you. No one calls a check on you. No one sees how you're doing. So that's the things I'm sure they talk about and that's the thing the only reason I mentioned that is that's the things probably he talked about with his dad for years

in his house, right? He has an inside view on what it looks like when you retire for an NFL, what it looks like when you play for a while what it looks like when you walk away because of an injury and what it looks like the fact that, look, if you do have this money in the bank and you don't want to do this

anymore, then don't go ahead enjoy your life and move on. The only question I'll ask about all of this, because that was laid out really well by Olin Kruits. And we kind of know that, but only if you play, you can really know that. But if we are

to presume that collectively as a sports society, that generally we understand what these guys go through, that there is a line of sympathy that we get, like, I think we're educated enough on head injuries and understanding with the beating that these guys go through. Wouldn't it be, if Drew Dalman came out and said that and just said, look, I don't want to take a chance. I decided. I talked to my family. I don't want to go through life with worrying about something like that. It's a decision I came to. Don't you think most people would understand?

I mean, there'd be people that would be pissed off. So I guess the question I'm asking is, If it is that, if it is that that he is just worried about injuries, why doesn't he just make that public? Why doesn't he say it unless he thinks that people wouldn't understand? But I think people would. I think that's your opinion about it. You know, I think it depends. I mean, we're doing two whole shows talking about this and just trying to get into his mind and understand what the why is and how it affects the bears. And I wonder if part of the, you know, the plus about retirement is you don't have to talk to the media.

anymore. We're not entitled. Absolutely. I will keep so. We're not entitled to anything from these guys. We could ask the questions. We're never entitled. I just think that if he, if that's it, if that's it and that is the, you know, most of us,

amateur speculation going on right now that seems to be the most popular theory is either an injury occurred or he is just being conservative and talked to his family and wants to have a quality of life. We would probably understand. The sad part is I think about, for example, former Bear Nate Davis, who basically quiet quit the team. He's got ping pong to play. He quiet quit. See, he admitted it.

And I... We wouldn't be asking why, because we would pretty much know. We get it. Right. There was never a greater example of that than when they needed him to actually play and do his job against the Patriots. And he said he had back spasms. Right. Right.

What was worse? Him saying he had back spasms and couldn't play in that game or that he wouldn't talk to me, Mark Grody because he had to go play ping pong. I mean, which is worse? Since they happened to you, which is worse? It's not even for me to judge at that point. It wasn't even bad because at that moment, I literally laughed. I literally laughed.

He put his hand on my shoulder and he knew he was saying something to me that I wasn't going to like and he said it and I laughed. So Joe Thomas, though, also talked about the pain that he went through in his career and playing Hall of Fame level football as the. the left tackle for the Brown. So listen to what he had to say with us yesterday. Sorry. I mean, I retired after 11 years. I didn't miss a single play until my 11th season, but that was all she wrote because by the time I'd finished 10 and a half years in the NFL, I was sliding down the stairs on my butt because I couldn't walk after games. My knees

hurt so bad. They were so swollen. I was getting injections every week and getting my knee drained. and it's a beating, even if you're not getting the big injuries, which I was able to avoid for 10 and a half years, and I didn't miss any time. You're still accumulating wear and tear and beatings on the body and the mind. And it beats you down. And really, like, mentally I was in probably a worse space

than I was physically by the end of my career because dealing with all the rehab and the wondering if you're going to be healthy enough to play on the weekend and trying to make up for lost practice time because you're injured, it wears on you because it's a stressful game as it is when you're a young player. Not to mention when you get old and you're trying to deal with, can my body keep up with these young bucks? Oh, and by the way, I'm older and I'm dealing with some injuries.

I'm dealing with some inadequacies because my body just isn't the way it used to be. So I totally understand it's hard for people to really wrap their minds around a guy who's so young in his 20s, just signed with the Chicago Bears to retire. but everybody's body ages differently. And it's hard to know what that beating was unless you're actually living inside of that person. I'm still blown away that that guy played 10 years without missing a snap until his, I guess, 10th year. That's pretty amazing. But your body goes through that and every day you go through this routine and if you have it down and you have it down to that level where you're a Hall of Famer, you know, I get why in that mode you're not, you're not stopping.

But maybe sometimes it's when you get the break that you're, realize how bad it really was. It's funny, man, because there's some guys in the NFL that are the complete opposite of that, too, like in terms of, I'm talking about the conservative, the early retirement, the being concerned about your body. And there was a guy that played on the Bears for the last four years that was like that. And that would be DeQuan Brisker, who anytime he had, and he took, he did the protocol with the concussions, but the idea that he would like maybe step out or step back out of

it like was laughable, at least from his perspective. So it's funny, the varying degrees of, of passion about football versus the opportunity cost of football. That's it. It's an individual choice. And don't you remember the press conference where Jaquan said, we're briskers and we don't, you know, we don't back down. Absolutely.

Yes, Jaquan, I agree with you. You are briskers and you guys don't back down. And Jaquan studies film like a lot of people I think should. You know, he's exemplary when it comes to how he would. put work into his job day in and day out. But at the same time, that doesn't determine how you get hit and what happens afterward to affect your health, you know? And that's a part of it too, is understanding sometimes you need an advocate who isn't just

you, you know, for the body. Right, well, right. And obviously, Dolman has his dad and his family and all the information that he needs. I'm reminded of when Bob Stoop suddenly retired because it seemed like it was sudden. he was in his 50s and everybody thought he had a lot of years left coaching college football and he was so successful. And there was a report and a discussion talking about how his dad was a football coach and just seeing, you know, how much time you don't get later in your life.

Like if you've got the money and you have an inkling and you're able to make that work for you, why you'd want to step away sooner than people expect you to. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it is that. It takes a lot away. Like you spend more time with us than you do your family at times. And we even had Mike McDonald, you know, we played the audio of him talking about

when he gets to see his son during a Super Bowl season for the Seahawks. So I think about that aspect of it too. When that's your family and you see the late stage of what happens, how much that stays with you. And maybe you don't want that to be your life later. Right. And the people around you can only handle so much of it too. because of the absolute consumption.

Like you, the wives have to be so supportive or have to sign up for this lifestyle of absentee husband. And I don't mean that. You know what I mean? It's like, it's not abandoned, man. It's just the job. It's the job, right. You sign up for it and there are benefits to it. But it's, there's a lot that goes into it.

That's the business we have chosen. But if it doesn't have to be, I see why you would want to get out when you feel like you've made enough to sustain yourself. Yeah. By the way, when is Olin Crout's going to be on our show? Because he's been on a couple times in the last 24 hours. So, like, when's he on next? You want to leave us out? Yeah, what's going on?

Oh, it's fair. I don't think he'd be okay with that either. Yeah, you know? You got to love your kids equally. He's due to be on at any minute now. Poor Olin. Listen to him on my walk home yesterday and then listening to him on Mully and this morning.

It's all Olin radio. And you know what? That's okay. The more Crutes, the better. Yes. Yeah, that's my guy right there. That's right. Yeah, and really, you guys are the ones who have that relationship, you know?

He calls for you. He should be sitting right here. Just chiming in when he feels like it. Punching me in the shoulder if he wants every once in a while, whatever he needs. Grotty loves a shoulder punch. I do love a good shoulder punch. I grew up with two brothers, you know? Ah, you flinchy.

A lot of punching that goes on. Some painful punching, too. Coming up next, let's switch gears. Let's shift gears. Jerry Paris from CBS 2. You know her as a sports reporter and anchor there, but she's also one of the most talented people in Chicago's sports media. Saying the anthem last night at Northwestern just did an absolutely fabulous job.

So we'll talk to her about that and more next. That courtesy of Fox, that was voted the moment of the year at the NFL honors. And it was also the last time when he accepted that award that DJ Moore spoke. publicly as a Chicago bear the breaking news coming down just moments ago. Adam Schaefter reporting that DJ Moore is being traded to the Buffalo Bills that will be activated when the league year

begins on March 11th. Compensation is still being discussed. The trade cannot be processed until that year begins. We're getting more news right now from Schaefter. He's followed up on Twitter saying Chicago has a former first round wide receiver in Roma Dunzee and drafted Luther Burton in round two last year in Ben Johnson's first draft, which we know.

To go along with tight-in, Colston Loveland, who was drafted in round one, that made moving DJ more possible, and he is now headed to Buffalo. He had 244 catches during his time with the Bears for 3,012 total receiving yards. That's over three years and 20 touchdowns. So I feel like this goes back to what Ryan Poles alluded to at the Combine, Mark, and he did it again at the season-ending press conference, prior to that. We were suspicious of this. Our ears perked when we heard him talk about tough decisions that he had to make. Now we find out what those decisions were. You don't leave the door open

the way Ryan Poles and Ben Johnson to a lesser degree did on the final day at Hallis Hall this year. And maybe now it makes more sense too as to DJ Moore just kind of scooting out of there that it could have something to do with not wanting to deal with questions too. about the very last play. But they were as transparent in an ambiguous way, if those two words even go together in regards to the combine and at the end of the season. I will say this, good for DJ Moore.

He is going to a perfect place. That's why I said about DJ. It would be hell for him to have to have gone to Las Vegas or something like that to again, again, deal with young quarterbacks. He had to do it with Justin Fields. He had to get used to him. He had to do it with Caleb Williams. So quite frankly, from a Buffalo perspective and a DJ Moore perspective, if you care about DJ Moore the man, this is a perfect destination for him and Josh Allen.

This is the first time that DJ Moore will have had and absolutely polished. And we know at this point in his career, an elite quarterback. A proven quarterback. A proven quarterback. who many times had gotten really close to making a Super Bowl. Absolutely. So good for DJ in that regard. That's what I thought the best thing would be for him.

MVP. But it's a huge hole for the Bears. And Lela, you and I have talked about it, that regardless of what we saw this year out of the Bears' wide receiver crew, and the games where DJ Moore was not a factor this year, he was still your best receiver. He was still your most important receiver. Colston Loveland led the team in receiving this year with 58 catches,

is 713 yards, but there was DJ Moore, who was second in that capacity, 682 yards receiving this year. He had the six touchdowns to go with it. Then it goes Roma Dunesay, Luther Burden, and Colquette in that order. So DJ Moore, unfortunately, is no more with the bears, but I would say, Leila, that was a really good bear. He was a, that's the category. He wasn't great with the bears, but he was a really good Chicago bear. The second DJ Moore got traded to the Bears in the hall that netted them that first overall pick that they used for Caleb Williams. Not only was that a bright spot, but DJ Moore was quality. He had come from a very successful run with the Panthers where he was coming off of at that point, seasons where he had had 1175

yards receiving to go along with four touchdowns because the Panthers didn't score a lot of touchdowns at the time. In 2020, he had 1193 yards. He had 1,157 in 2021. This also of note, Mark, this last recent season that we had from DJ Moore in 2025, that was his second lowest total in targets of his career. And it was only higher than his rookie season. So when I consider that, you know, after the many years that DJ Moore has had, I feel like that was what was the indication that for whatever reason, the fit was not working.

And Ben Johnson tried to do a lot of different things. I think offensively scheming up ways to get DJ more open. When he was called upon, he certainly answered the call. We saw him make game winning catches. We played the moment of the year for you from the NFL from 2025. And he did speak happily at the time and recognize the Bears in Virginia McCasky at the time, late Virginia McCasky. So he was available.

But I feel like this was something that we all suspected would happen. And lo and behold, it did. It's epic in so many different ways. For the Bears, it looks like it would be a $16.5 million cap saving for DJ Moore. As Layla alluded to, we're still in a little gray areas, specifically what the bears will be getting back. But I think it was posed as a mid-round pick. So what, a third or a fourth round pick for DJ Moore? Which would make sense, given he was the highest paid bear per AAV at 28 and a half?

Yeah. So that makes sense as well. And then just from the nostalgic part of a Bears perspective, there's only been so many good to great wide receivers that have ever walked through Hallis Hall that have put on the Bears jersey. And he goes down as one of those, DJ Moore, and Alan Robinson and Brandon Marshall, Al-Shod Jeffrey.

Unfortunately, I'm able to name all of the quality wide receivers in Bears history. You just named Al-Shod Jeffrey with the same breath. of DJ. Hey, he was terrific. He was terrific with the Bears. When he was here, he was very good. I don't know if he ever wanted to be here, but that was a quality wide receiver for the Chicago Bears.

So this is, even though we knew something like this could very well happen, it certainly feels a certain way. And we'll talk about it all day here on Rehemi Harrison Grotie. We will. We have continuing coverage of this. James Big Cat Williams is still next, right, Ray? So let's talk to James Big Cat Williams,

get his thoughts on this very news about DJ Moore and also the news about Drew Dalman. My, how things have changed. Miss a little, miss a lot. This is 104-3, The Score. He's such a smart and versatile player. I think that's something that gets overlooked at times. He's a guy that we felt strongly

in terms of he could play any position. We could put him in any spot, in terms of the route tree that we could ask him to do. And so it's really invaluable. you look at it. He's such a good player. He has been his entire career. I still remember him evaluating his tape coming out of Maryland. That was an easy one. You know, you knew he was going to be a heck of a pro, and that's what he's been. What I didn't know was just what a great teammate he would be, and he legitimately wants the guys around him to do well. He wants to win,

and he loves the city of Chicago. That is Ben Johnson talking to Fox 32. about DJ Moore and what he brought to the team. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 104, 3, the score with the breaking news that happened about 20 minutes ago that DJ Moore is reportedly being traded to the Buffalo Bills that per Adam Schaefter. And now we go to our hotline. That is where we find our friend, former Bears defensive and offensive lineman, James Big Cat Williams, who joins us. James, we thought we were going to talk to you about the Drew Dollars. news. We'll do that too, but lo and behold, we have some breaking news. What are your thoughts about

this happening? How are you guys? We're gathering ourselves. Yeah, yeah, that's right. We knew something could happen, but it still hit you in a certain way, right, Big Cat? Yeah, it does. I mean, you think about DJ and you think about a guy that when they brought him in, he was immediately an impact player. He was immediately someone in that locker room that the younger players were able to look up to and go to for advice and, you know, different things like that. So, you know, knowing that he's leaving now, knowing that he's going to be traded, it's going to clear up some cap room for the bears, for them to do other things, whether it be at the center position, whether it be a tackle position, the defensive line position, you know, And I think it's also a good situation for him, going to Buffalo. You know, it's not like they're sitting in to Cleveland or Las Vegas or somewhere like that where he's got to start all over again with who knows who at quarterback.

You know, he's going somewhere where they have a viable quarterback that has a lot of time under his belt, a lot of experience, and I think he'll fit in well there. This is the kind of heartlessness, the business part of the NFL that James, Big Cat Williams. I know that you knew well from your time playing with the Bears and being in the NFL and being one that covers the league as well. Is that what this is, just kind of the harsh realities of the NFL, that you have a guy like DJ Moore, as I was saying earlier. Like he goes down as one of the best receivers the Bears have ever had in this franchise, which tells you more about the relativity of the receivers than anything else. But it's just, it's tough to take, I think, for fans and anybody in the NFL when these things happen.

Yeah, well, you know, if you've ever been in an NFL locker room or, you know, on a team, you understand that, you know, this is part of the game, that, you know, nothing is guaranteed. Whether, you know, no matter how long you've been tendered at a place, nothing's guaranteed. You can, you know, they can make decisions and you have to live with those. decisions and you know you have to move on with your life so I'm sure DJ is going to do that this is not the first time the DJ has had to go someplace different so you know he knows the routine he knows what he's going to have to go through he he knows what he has to do once he gets to Buffalo as far as getting himself situated so yeah from the outside looking in it it seems like a rough deal but you know like you said earlier it is

something that you deal with being an NFL player. Well, and I think, James, it also is something you deal with when you know you get the contract you dream of, right? You get the third contract, the extension that really solidifies you in the prime of your career, like the case for him. But then that also means a target might be on your back if something changes. And he was the highest pay player in the team, as we know. And I feel like, unfortunately, with the Bears needing to clear cap space and now the news with Drew Dalman, I wonder if that also factored in. You get a bit of a target when it also comes to having that designation.

Yeah, and you also have to realize that when, you know, Coach Johnson comes in and they bring in a bunch of young wide receivers that are high on his list, that are, you know, in his eyes exactly what he's looking for. You know, we don't know what he thought about DJ when he came in. I mean, you know, coaches are going to say, you know, I love having this guy here. he's a big part of our locker room. You know, he's a big part of our team. But, you know, being there, knowing a head coach and knowing that they want their people,

they want the people that they could put in places that they have designated for them. So, you know, like we said, it's part of the game and it's something that you have to deal with. And, you know, it's going to go on forever. I mean, this is not the last person that we're going to probably have to deal with or talk about this offseason as far as either being traded or having to be restructure something. So, you know, a lot of things are going to go on in the next couple months. News breaking here on Rahimi Harris and Grotie as we talk to the former Bears offensive lineman James Big Cat Williams. Per ESPN sources, the Bears are working to finalize a trade that would send wide receiver DJ more to the Buffalo Bills, compensation is still being discussed, and the trade cannot be processed until the new league year begins,

which is soon, but both sides are pushing to make this happen. It looks like it could be a mid-round, maybe a third or a fourth-round pick. We'll wait and give you the details right here on the score. But James, there's also the part two where I don't, I think Layla and I are an agreement that if DJ Moore was still with the bears going in the next year, he's still their best wide receiver. However, however, you do have some developing talent that makes this a little bit more digestible with Luther Burden being there.

Colston Loveland was their leading receiver last year. Roma Dunzee did not have a great year, but we know he's got all the talent in the world. Are the Bears going to be okay in terms of their receivers this year even without DJ Moore? Yeah, I think they will. I mean, you know, you go back, to last year and you talk you think about all the conversation being all the riches that they

had you know you only have one ball how do you distribute this ball to all these players that you just named rome burden loveland uh commette swift you know you have all these guys that you're trying to get the ball to and now you have a situation where you know the younger guys have to step up. You know, with DJ being, with DJ moving on, now these younger players have to step up. They've got to show their worth. You know, who is now your number one receiver? Who's your number two receiver? Who's your slot guy? You know, these are more questions that they're going to have to answer, but it gives the young guys an opportunity to, you know, show their worse, and that's what they're going to have to do in probably a little more of the near future

than they stopped. James Big Cat Williams joining us on the score, former Bears offensive lineman, former defensive lineman as well. And James, one of the things that I think you brought up that also stands to be discussed in a business way is when a new head coach gets to a team, sometimes there's not always the automatic fit that you would think there would be, or when a quarterback changes a or receiver, the personnel changes. Do you think that this might have also fallen under that

because there was just one year spent with Ben Johnson? It could be. Like we said, you know, Ben comes into a new situation, a new team. He's the head coach. He has his first draft. He goes out there and he gets players that he feels as though will fit in his system as well as with the players that they imagine that they would keep during the season.

And, you know, you never know how a guy fits in until you actually have an opportunity to work with him. Yes, DJ Moore has a great background. Yes, he came from Carolina, and, you know, he did all these good things with not-so-good quarterbacks. Now you have a young quarterback that you feel as though he can help to progress. He can help Caleb get better.

He can help him as far as seeing different things in the secondary when they're running routes, their communication, their ability to work together. Now you have to hope that he was able to pass all that stuff on to Caleb, and Caleb is able to work with your Luther Burden, with your Roma Doomsday, with Loveland, with Komet, and get these things done with, those guys and you know kind of a tutoring teaching session that more had is now over and now we're going to watch a bunch of young guys try and pull it all together and you know produce on the field in a way that ben jonson wants it's just wild man like i'm thinking about and i understand

like free agency and the draft haven't haven't even occurred right now but in this moment for the bears coming off an 11 win season and all the holes significant holes that the Bears suddenly have with DJ Moore being traded to the Buffalo Bills today. You have a big opening at left tackle with the injury to Ozzie Tripillo. And now Big Cat, which was the original reason that we had wanted to have you on. We'll have you on for anything. But Drew Dalman, man. What did you think about that?

Drew Dalman all of a sudden deciding to retire at the age of 27? A shock. you think about a guy that has, you know, only been with the Bears for a year, signed, I think it was a, what, a three-year deal, and, you know, was a mainstay in the center of that offensive line, the leader of that offensive line, the guy that puts people where they're supposed to be, that makes the points, that is looking out for the blitz, that is shifting the line, blocking schemes, whether it be to the left or to the right, or whatever little nuances that needed to be done in that short period of time, that short window that a center has to make

his calls, to hear what the snap count is, to snap the ball, to get everybody going in the right direction. And now you're going to have to start all over again. You know, we saw how last season started as far as, you know, them being able to work together. Now we're going to have to see all over again whether they can get it done as far as those inside guys being able to work together. As far as a player being able to control the whole line and do it at, you know, at the highest level. You think about Tune, Jackson, you know,

Now they're going to have to work with a new center. So, you know, we always talk about the ability for an offensive line to work together for a period of time. Now you're starting all over again. The main play caller or the guy who gets everybody situated has now changed. So now all these guys are going to have to figure out how they work with this new center and how good he is. whoever they choose to bring in at doing his job, making the points, making the shifts, sliding guys in the right direction, seeing what's going on with the defense. So, you know, it's almost like starting all over again.

But the good thing is, you know, you have Tuny, you have Jackson, you have rights. You still have to figure out the left tackle position, but you have a good base if you bring a good center in. We're talking to James Big Cat Williams here on 104 through the score. Rahimi Harrison Grotie with you today. And James, one of the things I've been asking just the offensive lineman that we've talked to about this is your perspective. As we try to figure out why, we may not ever get that answer, and that's understood. But we can understand what goes into it. Joe Thomas yesterday, the Hall of Famer said part of it could also be simply that.

Offensive linemen get paid a lot more than they used to. And I'm sorry to have to bring that up because I feel like you would have been one of the offensive lineman who had gotten paid a lot more if you played now, but that you can make 10 years worth of salary now when he was playing or when you were playing in five years time like, like Drew Dalman had under his career here in the NFL. And maybe sometimes you just feel like you've made enough money to step away. You know, what do you think about the salary aspect of this? Well, I mean, you know, it's funny because when I played, you know, it was the guys who played before me that we're always like, man, if we'd have made the money that you guys make now,

you know, and it just continues to go on. But, you know, you're able now to make generational wealth. You're able to make enough money now playing a game that can set your family for life. So, you know, understanding that, you know, he also had a father who played in it, NFL who got injured and had to deal with all those things. You know, he knows that whole story. He knows the backstory. He knows the in and outs of what goes on in the NFL, whether it be while you're playing or when you're done playing.

So, you know, for him to make that decision, it's, you know, it's not a decision that I could have made, you know, at 27 years old. and having the opportunity to still play, you know, what else was I going to do? You know, it was either play football or work construction. So, you know, I'm playing football. And nothing about that. It's funny because even, you know, now,

nothing about that for me changes. I still feel as though that, you know, in my mind, I'd have played until I could not play anymore. You, not that there's a knock on construction, because there's a lot of good money to be had in construction. But I think you're also a very good coach. So I feel like we could have come up with other job opportunities for you, just saying. Yeah, but where could you do what we were able to do on the field out in real life, you know, without being arrested? Without somebody putting cuss on you and bringing you over the hood of their car.

You know, so it was the mentality we had. It was the mentality that we rolled with. You know, it was in our everyday lives. So, you know, I couldn't say even knowing now what I know that I've done it any differently. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. And good for you. Good for you. I appreciate success stories like James Big Cat Williams.

We're talking to him right now. If you haven't heard the breaking news, he has DJ Moore traded. or there is a trade in place to move him to the Buffalo Bills. It has not been made official yet, but it certainly looks like it is heading in that exact direction. It appears to be a $16.5 million cap savings, which is huge, because then it makes you start to think about the next move or what it means for the Bears, Big Cat,

and one of the names that is out there, and I know you've been hearing about it, and that is Max Crosby, of all the stuff that has to be fixed still on the offensive line, that name is not going to go away until he locks in someplace. What do you think about Max Crosby and are the Bears better off putting their resources, the big piles of money into the offensive line holes, or somebody who is a game changer like Max Crosby? You know, personally, you already know what direction I'm going.

I think you need to fix what's broke on the offensive line. You need to replace what is now missing. Max Crosby is, you know, I say that's in the most respectful way, you're the freak. You know, he's a guy that goes out there and he gives you play after play after play of 100 miles an hour or 110 miles an hour. You look at his body lead. You look at the body of work that he has put together. And, you know, it would be a nice, it would be something. nice to have on the other end of sweat as far as that D-line goes.

But, like I said, you're going to fix that off. You want Tyler Linderbaum. That's where you want the money to go. That's what you're thinking about. Just say it. I actually thought about it. I would love to see them bring in a player like that, but a guy like Linderbom is going to be expensive.

Yeah. You're not the only team that needs a pro-bowl all-pro type center. and at the age that he's at. So, you know, the bidding war for a guy like that is, I mean, it's going to get up there. It's going to get up there. Well, and that's the part of this that becomes really tricky, is trying to figure out what is the next priority. And I feel like the bears were rich at wide receiver.

They had a lot of solid and quality depth at that position. And this solidifies that perhaps they knew they had to make a change on their roster in order to balance another need. Rahimi Harrison Grody. I don't want to break time. I want to yell at him. Can we handle more Anthony Herron? Middays 10 to 2 on 1043, the score.

If you are just joining us, we are following the breaking news for Adam Schaefter and multiple other reports that the bills and the bears are in agreement working to finalize a trade that would send DJ Moore to Buffalo. compensation still being discussed. Trade can't be processed until the new league year begins, but both sides are pushing to make that happen. We just had James Big Cat Williams on telling us his perspective on not only Drew Dalman's retirement, but DJ Moore being moved as well. We want to get your perspective. 312-644-67.

Is our number here on Rahimi Harris and Grody. This does with the cap-saving. This opens the door to other interesting, bigger, maybe even better things. like Tyler Linderblum, like Max Crosby as a possibility. That is out there. Do we have some fresh Adam Schaefter here right now? They're working on it. They're working on it right now.

Okay. I got you. And let me just, before we take some of these calls, 312, 644, 67, 67, right now I'm looking at because I was naming guys off the top of my head, like of the Bears' all-time wide receivers in the top 20. Yes, DJ Moore right now, 17th overall. in Bears history with wide receivers.

I mentioned Alshan Jeffrey Lela. He is number three. That's Jeffreys to you. That is Jeffreys to me. He goes to the Jewels. That's right. I've seen him at the Jules. Many times.

The number four receiver for the Chicago Bears is Walter Payton, followed by Mike Ditka. Curtis Conway, the old USC wide receiver and bear. It is sixth overall. Alan Robinson, who, by the way, will be joining us at 1 o'clock today. We just found out.

Our guy Alan Robinson will be on the show. He is number 11 currently on the all-time Bears wide receiver list. Brandon Marshall, number 13. James Scott, back in the 80s, is number 14 overall. Dennis McKinnon, number 20. Cole Commet. Cole Commet is number 19 overall on the Bears wide receiver list. A couple years ago, he was the team's leading receiver.

He was. So there's that part of it too as well. I think that was the pre-DJ Moore year, as I recall. As text her asked me here, hey, Grotie, this doesn't mean that DJ isn't going to be on DTN. Doesn't necessarily mean that. He could still be on Take the North. I do have a text out to him. We'll see if he responds on this day.

Probably doubtful, but we'll see. 312-644-67 is our number. Here's some more news. This from Jordan Schultz, the NFL reporter. Schultz report on Twitter sources say teams in the trademark. have gotten the sense that the Raiders are more open to the idea of trading Max Crosby, and it's a situation that is only going to intensify. He also said, I do not get the sense that the bears are done on the trade market.

Those are two separate posts. Wow. I just want you to know those are two separate posts. Who else would be vulnerable to trade on the Chicago Bears? Well, I guess Tremaine probably not. I mean, he is. That's not a splash, though. Yeah.

Yeah, that's likely going to be a. cap casualty. Who else are we thinking about here? Who else? Well, it just depends on who there's which, at which position do they feel like they have depth? And then at which position do they feel like they could free up enough money? You know, Cole Cavett was discussed as a possible cap casualty. That was in Kevin Fishbane's story a few days ago because of how his contract is structured. So is he possibly next? My first thought when I heard this was because of the fact that this frees up $16.5 million in cap space that this could be freeing up for possible money to get Tyler Linderbom, the free agent center who is tremendous out of Iowa, had a wonderful career so far

with Baltimore. So Tom Pelliserro is now reporting that it is a done deal. The bills are sending a 2026 second round pick to the Bears for DJ Moore and a 2026 fifth round pick. So I think that that is important to note as well. Two draft picks for DJ Moore. And now DJ goes to an MVP quarterback and Josh Allen and his former offensive coordinator with the Panthers, Joe Brady, who is now part of the staff, of course, as we know in Buffalo.

Big news. The fact that it was a second round pick, despite how high he was paid, the familiarity with Brady, I'm sure helped. And then now Buffalo has their WR1. I think that's pretty good. I think that's like, I don't think that's an insult.

halting get back for the bears right there. 2026, second round pretty good, and then add in the fifth rounder as well. The way it had been sounding from what I was hearing, it was going to be lesser than that. So it was good to hear. I'll take that. I'll take that for DJ Moore. So let's go to our phones. 312, 644, 6467, here on Rahimi Harrison Grotie on the score.

We'll do it the next segment as well as we roll through. Let's start with. Who should we start with? Jeremy in Albany Park. Jeremy, you're on Rahimi Harrison Grotie. Hey, thanks for taking my call. You know, I totally get the business side of this. I just feel like as a Bears fan, it's like we can't have nice things in some ways.

And I know that this can free up money. But going into the offseason, I think about players that inspire confidence. And DJ Moore, Drew Dalman, and I'm just like riding off the high last season. And I'm like, you know, these are great players. And I know this makes sense. I totally get it. But DJ Moore, you know, obviously that last, you know, playoff game not so great. but you look at what he did and was just

I think a safety net for Caleb Williams. So I think it's going to be a huge loss and I'm definitely bummed about it. I think you speak for a lot of people, Jeremy. There's a reason why I still thought he was the Bears number one receiver. He was the one who could be trusted the most, especially when the game was on the line.

He was a really good player for the Chicago Bears. Like I said when the news broke, that was a good, he's the 17th best wide receiver the franchise has ever had and made monumental historic catches, had some great years when it didn't matter as much, but he was terrific with Justin Fields and a clear number one at that time. I'm still thinking about right now about other bears who potentially could get traded if the reports are correct that the bears could still be willing to deal.

And unfortunately, there's a name that popped up on the text line. And the texter is right. Cole Comette has always been vulnerable in this cycle. he'd be an $8.4 million cap savings. We know that Tremaine Edmins, if they can get him off the books, that's another $15 million cap savings right there. And then you go to D'Andre Swift as well, $7.47 million in cap savings. So you've got to look at those three guys right there.

Yeah, that's what I was saying about Kevin Fishbane's story that Cole Comet was mentioned as a possible cap casualties. I kind of thought he was in a safe place now, But then all of a sudden, not so much. Well, I was going to say, I wonder if he gets traded as well. 312, 64, 67, 67 is our number. We go to call in in Northfield. Colin, you're on Rahimi Harrison Grotie.

Hey, hey, guys. How's it going? Good, man. How are you? This call is no longer being recorded. What? We're recording your call, just so you know. Yeah, we are.

We're getting all of it. No, go ahead, man. What's on your mind? For crying out loud, some jagoff while I was waiting, told me to hit record. because they want me to send it to him, but thank you for... Yeah, we can't be saying that on the air. So guess what? Your buddy and you.

Something was a miss. Now released from our care. Let's go to Tony and Joliet. Tony, you're on Rahimi Harrison Grody. Hey, friends. Grody. Tony! Love you!

Same. It was an absolute dagger when I heard it. Because I believe we had that one guy that was going to we had been, but we had Baldwin. And what he did in Kansas City, and we got him young, and I'm like, this guy is awesome.

He's going to develop Caleb. I don't think how, we don't realize how important that guy was with what his history is. And to be healthy and to be where he was to do that to us, I know you guys, I know we don't know why he's leaving, so you don't want to be

saying something and then look back like, oh man, I didn't know that. But a guy with that pedigree and background and family background, if there was something else, I think he would have put it out. So we would understand. So nobody's going to be like, oh, you screwed us. Now what are we going to do? He basically took us out of the Max Crosby conversation.

It killed us. And just as our bears are looking like, man, this is looking great. Now all of a sudden, DJ's going to Buffalo where they could be there next year. We could be seeing DJ in the Super Bowl next year. and we're trying to replace players because this guy left us. I feel like he abandoned us. I feel like I don't know how to describe the hurt I have with this because we were flowing towards a couple days ago before this broke guys.

We were favored to get Max Crosby now. I don't know how we make that move go. It's just a real sad day. We still got a foundation. I still love our receivers. But, man, DJ was our best one. The catches he made. in those games were some of the greatest moments

in my Chicago Bears history. And guys, I love you. Just a real hard day for fans. And I just feel like, I just feel like I'd love to know why the guy's leaving. But man, I just say whatever money we can get back off of him, if it turns out he just decided, yeah, I want to be mechanical engineer.

I don't want to do this anymore. Well, you should have known that before he signed with us because we could have done something else. Now we're going to have to get Lindbergh. And what are we going to do after that? So yeah, just very disappointing. Thanks for taking my call. I love you guys.

Show is great as always. Tony. See you, buddy. Thanks, Tony. So to summarize, Tony thinks that the Drew Dalman news led to the DJ more trade happening or perhaps the bears being more motivated to make it happen. And I don't necessarily know that that's wrong. I think that it's fair to understand how much of a game changer drew Dalman's retirement was

for the entire scenario, especially given the price of offensive lineman. And let's face it. wide receivers get traded a lot in the NFL. So we understand that as well. Big name receivers switch teams. We just saw Stefan Diggs, by the way, get reportedly released. On the move again. So this is something that happens where your big name receivers, they travel, unfortunately, just part of the discussion.

And Tony, just so you know, because he mentioned like what it means for the bears with the Dolman part. They do save $10 million in Cap room with Dolman having left. Right. So 312, 644, 67 is our number. We are going to forego halftime for this breaking news. DJ Moore to the Buffalo Bills. We now have the terms of it thanks to Tom Pelliserro telling us a second round pick and a fifth round pick this year.

These are both picks this year coming from Buffalo. More with your reaction. Next. Rahimi Harrison Grody. That sounds so crazy. 104.3 score. Well, I like that. Middays 10 to 2 on 104 3, The Score.

How would you reflect on what this season was for you personally and the Bears? But me personally, I would get the season grade. I'd probably get myself like a V-minus. Just because some things didn't go our way this year, but I think everybody played to the best of the ability and what the coaches me. This is Rahivi Harrison Grady on 104-3, The Score, and we are taking your calls through. 312644-67,

Tom Pelliserio had the information. It is a fifth round pick, along with DJ Moore, to the bills for a 2026, second round pick, and then we also get the information courtesy of people who are crunching the cap numbers, this from over the cap.com,

that that frees up $16.5 million dollars in cap room for the bears. The bills will take on a $24.5 million salary for DJ Moore and assume of $15.5 million guarantee for 2027. And he also said that seems risky for the bills. I don't necessarily think so.

The MVP quarterback Josh Allen, who is the MVP season before last, now gets a wide receiver one in DJ Moore and the Bears free up some cap room, which clearly seemed like part of the plan. You like the fact that he gave himself a B minus for the season? I think that was pretty appropriate. I might have given him a B if we didn't already do these grades, but it was his least productive year. There was some games where we were in here the next day saying,

where you at, DJ Moore? Where are you? Where'd you go? And then the Cleveland game came along. He makes it a huge play. And it starts to get really good in terms of some of the monumental catches that DJ Moore made. But he has now gone to the Buffalo Bills. And as Layla told you, second rounder and a fifth rounder coming back this way in the year 2026.

I love Tom Pellasera, but his wording wasn't exactly broadcast subject verb object. project. The fifth rounder is going to the bills as part of the offset. The bills are sending a 2026 second round pick to the Bears. Okay. For DJ Moore in a 2026 fifth round pick. The way he wrote it, yeah, got me. This is live radio and we're getting a million different piece of information at the same time. So just know that that's something that if we had, I don't know, 10 minutes to sit down with this information and possibly digest it, it would be different. But yeah, Pelliserra's wording is a little bit weird there. He's typing as he's seeing this info too. This is just kind of what happens. But the bills give up a second round pick. The Bears get DJ and a fifth rounder. And thank God,

it's not a third rounder for the Bears. Both because the second rounder means more. And you know how I feel about the Bears in the third round. It hasn't always been good. Three one, two, six, 44, 67, 67. Mario in Hyde Park. Welcome to the show today. Greetings, everybody. I have a call. please forgive my voice. I am not particularly happy with DJ leaving because it gives me more pause about the wide receiver room. You're going to ask a second year wide receiver to be your number one. You're going to ask a dude who may have an injury worse than we thought to be a better

wide receiver than he was last year. And you now don't need just a wide receiver and a left. tackle and sign somebody to play safety, anybody, and an edge rusher, you still need a center. The good news, if there's any good news, is the bears have newly found cap money, a lot of it, too, and they can make some really good moves. There are free agents that are out there that you can acquire that you can just throw money at, as opposed to trying to make a trade for a player who is not declining, but getting close to the age where you're like, you know, I'm not sure if this is an long-term investment for this team.

You also have kicks now, and you can pick really good college football players and develop them. And this is kind of where I want to leave it. Either we trust Ben Johnson to be able to have a voice in that draft room with Ryan Poles or we don't. And if you trust Ben Johnson, you have to believe that he is going to make sure if nothing else that that offensive line is correct because the most important part of all of this is still Caleb Williams. And nobody likes to talk about the future, but the future of your quarterback, him staying here for an extended period of time, depends if he can keep his feet on the ground and keep his

uniform playing. If he can do those things, the Bears are going to be fine. Still, hey, DJ is gone. but if you have to advance this look toward the future, they might have done a good thing today, and they might put themselves in a really good spot. We will see. Mario, as always, we thank you for your call,

and it's frankly a measured and reasonable take. You know, that's the hard part about some of these massive trades. You've got to give up something of a high value in order to get something that you might just have to value more because your situation changed. And I think that that's really important to make a note of. Yeah, and I brought this up yesterday, that as good as the young receivers seem to be for the Bears in Luther Bird and Colston Loveland, Roma Dunesay, pressure goes up a tick now when you don't have that vet in the room. We could take some of the pressure off.

Of course, the expectations naturally would have been ramped up in their second year, talking about the rookies from this year. But now they have to play a prominent role. And you're right. I mean, this, if the bear, the bears are now in position to get maybe the best center, top five center in all of the NFL and Tyler Linderbaum and the Max Crosby sweepstakes are open, are again open for the Chicago Bears. And just to reiterate, the Tom Pelliserra wording is a little tricky. Everybody's doing this real time. So just bear with us. It is a fifth round pick and DJ Moore going to the bills.

Bills give back a second round pick in this year's draft. And the draft that Ryan Pulse said he had viewer of players on his board, darn. But they need it now based on the team needs that we have just discussed. We stay on the phones, 312, 644, 67, and we go to Derek and Beloit. Derek, you're on Rahimi Harrison Grotie. Hi. I call a good show. And I just wanted to kind of give my prediction of the next one to go.

and I kind of feel like given that they got Kyle Monungai in the seventh round, and they're paying him on a rookie contract, which is like $4 million. I think DeAndre Swift is the next logical one to go, given that they'd save like $7.5 million in cap space. It's only going to have, according to kind of just a brief search here, it'll only leave them like $1.3 million in dead money, but they saved $7.5 million. Johnson didn't keep him when he was at Detroit,

and given that you can pick up value in later round for a running back, he can't run through the tackles, right? I think where they need to concentrate is clearly at the center position, the left tackle, and then a defensive end. But for the money, I think D'Andre Swift is the next likely candidate to be let go. I think that you might be on to something there because he was part of that same story from Kevin Fishpane, Mark, the one talking about the cap casualties.

The three names that he mentioned, Tremaine Edmunds, $15 million savings, although we know he's, quote, up for a trade, end quote. Cole Comet and D'Andre Swift. Yeah. Good research on the caller, too. Yeah, the exact amounts is $7.47 million in cap savings and the dead money, too, 1.33 Mildo. So, man. That's a technically scientific term.

That is correct. That is all we do here. So it is funny that a few weeks ago when we were doing these bears' caps, shows they were deep into the red and now the riches are beginning to come and it's a matter of what the bears do with it now now that DJ Moore is gone and we'll be playing with Josh Allen and Buffalo and the bears will be getting a second round pick in this year's draft. I also want to point this out and we are going to take more of your calls. We also get Dan Weider at the top of the hour for what little time he can join us just so you're

aware Dan Weir are expected to join us at noon. Stay on the line. We will also continue with your calls because it's one of those very busy days here at the score, but we also want to point this out. Go back to the conversation that Ryan Poles had. You know, for everybody who says, the cap is invisible. It's not real. It doesn't exist.

To the bears, it does. And they just showed you how. Matters to us. Kind of like what we've been talking like, how are they going to get out of this mess. And that is the realities of the NFL are kicking in big time with the bears. But I think that they're, I don't know how you feel right now, Leila. He's already off of the spot rack cap list. I feel, I feel simultaneous, like, sadness.

I feel sadness that DJ Moore is no longer with the bears because, as I said, he was a good bear and I enjoyed my relationship with DJ Moore on the professional level. But at the same time, there's kind of this new hope with the cap savings and another second round pick in the draft. And there are big names on the board that the bears are eligible to. acquire at this moment. Okay, and I know we're up against a break, but 708 says, should we start the Cameron Jordan watch? Did you see that news that just came down, by the way? And Cameron Jordan has eight pro bowl, so he's got quite the career. The news is? Adam Schaefter is reporting that eight-time Pro Bowl defensive in Cameron Jordan, who has spent his 15-year career in New Orleans. Why is that 15-year important in New Orleans? Because of the overlap with Dennis Allen. He had 10 and a half

sacks last season. He will not have a new deal in place with New Orleans by next week. Another name to the fray. Indeed. He will now hit free agency for the first time in his NFL career. Jordan will play a 16th NFL season and is said to be open to leaving New Orleans. So that is fair to ask that question. We're going to talk to Dan Weiderer to get the latest he hosts the Take the North Show podcast with Mark Grody. He is also the senior writer for the athletic. We will also take more of your calls. So more on this breaking news. here on Rahimi Harrison Grotie next. The score!

How gratifying is it when you win that battle and get the football thrown to you? What? Does it please you? I mean, is that spot, dude? It doesn't please me, but it's good to see. Good to hear him out there doing that, and that means he's doing growth. Oh man, now we won't have any more awkward moments between Dan Weider, Mark Grody, and DJ Moore. That's the greatest hits album right there.

Oh, there's more than that, too. Is there? Well, I mean, just there's a DJ Moore lifetime of interesting back and forth between myself and DJ or weedsy and DJ. He's an interesting character. Dan and I talk a lot about him on and off the air, just the sort of care. I don't even know if character is the right word. an interesting individual who was a good Chicago bear. He was a good Chicago bear, and now he is set to be traded.

We got the information not just from Adam Schaefter, but the details from Tom Pellisero. The Bears will receive a 2026 second round pick. DJ Moore in a 2026 this year, fifth round pick. Go to the Bills, and that is the exchange. We bring in Dan Weederer, the partner of the Take the North podcast with Mark. He's a senior writer for The Athletic covering the Bears on our hotline here on Rahimi Harrison Grotie.

Dan, what is your initial reaction to this? Yeah, man, it's been a busy week here for the Chicago Bears. And I had the sense coming out of the combine that their headlines in the short term were going to be more subtractions than additions. We've had two big subtractions from the Bears' offense here in the last 48 hours. Eventually, they're going to start trying to fill those holes and trying to figure out how to solidify a championship contending roster. It felt like this was kind of the momentum that was building in terms of

DJ's exit, and I think that the return that the Bears got back is, she should make them feel pretty encouraged, because now they will have four picks in the top 90 to go make some hay in the draft. Yeah, I love the idea of the Bears getting a second round pick. The initial thought was a mid-round pick, so I was thinking it was going to be a third or a fourth, which I guess you could have lived with, but a second-round pick feels really good. It's interesting, Dan, because you and Kevin Fishbane, we had just been talking about your article where you guys had cited sources from personnel people from the combo.

kind of kind of going to the good and the bad of DJ Moore, making some massive catches, but also it was not a productive year relative to what DJ Moore usually does. And the chemistry has always been just, I guess, spotty with Caleb Williams. Yeah, it was going back to the week in London where DJ had kind of brought up the word bossy, if you remember that. Sure. And that was sort of the first sign that, like, these guys weren't able to get on the exact same page as consistently as everyone would have liked them to.

And so it just for whatever reason didn't click, you know, DJ's got a different kind of style as a player. Obviously, I think the bears probably assessed the lack of click there in making the decision that they made here. And now, again, like, this is a move that is going to up the pressure on Romo Dunezai, right? Like, this is the guy that you drafted in the top 10. Well, now you've got to become a top 10 pick, you know, in season three in the NFL, like,

you've got to become the guy for this offense. Coastal level will be part of that mix as well, obviously, Luther Burden as well. So you do have ways to offset the loss of DJ more. But, you know, it's really hard to subtract really good football players from your team and feel great about it. And so over the last couple days, the bears have had to do that. And now, like I said, they've got, you know, six weeks here and obviously the next week with some very intense decisions ahead to try to figure out what routes they want to take

to build this thing up. Dan, given that this news happened within, you know, a couple days of the Drew Dalman news, when you consider that part of it, how much do you think, if any, that had a factor in the Bears needing to move at the time their highest paid player? Yeah, I don't think the two are connected. Like, I think the DJ decision was kind of, like I said, the momentum had kind of been building in that direction. The wind was blowing that way for a little bit.

And they're probably two independent things. But again, these are two really good. players, right? It's a Pro Bowl center and a receiver who's threatened to 1,200 yards a bunch of times in his career. I do think it's notable that the new Bills coach, Joe Brady, was the offensive coordinator in Carolina for two years when DJ was really ascending. And so, like, you know that that's some informed insight coming from Buffalo and saying, okay, like, with what we're trying to do here now in our next phase and trying to get Josh Allen to a Super Bowl, we feel like this can come in and work with what we're having to do. And so it's not a sort of leap of blind

faith by the bill. They've got experience with Joe Brady and DJ Moore. So that part of the storyline is interesting as well. Well, and some of the other reports that have popped up and it's all just happening right now, and Lila and I have been bringing, fluid as fluid as the word of the offseason so far. And one of them indicated, look, the bears may not be done making trades. When you hear that, what do you think? Stay nearby, you know? Don't take a breath. Don't go to the bathroom.

Don't try to swing out for lunch or anything. You know, just be ready to react because this is that part of March that's really become the NFL's version of March Madness. The new league year and the official opening of free agency isn't until next week. But we've seen this over the last several years that the week before the new league year opens is when a lot of these trades start to work. And so, yeah, again, stand by. I think what you, Grady, I think the one thing that you really take note of, and really, it kind of corresponds to Ben Johnson's arrival. Is it the Bears are going to be aggressive, right?

Like, they're going to know what they want, and they're going to go after what they want. And so we'll see what the next step of that is. I don't know, you know, what the next move might be. Wouldn't dare to speculate here on these airwaves right now. But I would imagine that their plans are starting to go in domino order here. We're talking to Dan Weider, the senior writer for The Athletic covering the Bears. He is also the co-host of The Take the North podcast ahead of this DJ-Mord news when it comes to DJ going to the Buffalo Bills that is not finalized or can't be finalized

until the league year begins. I know that that is an important note, just the fact that it can't be official until then, but since there seems to be a deal in place, as you understand it, does that mean the bears are going to move forward, just assuming that that's the case, trying to get other things in place? I don't think that there's going to be anything in a DJ more physical that would raise any red flags is a guy who plays all the time and it takes really good care of himself and gets himself back on the field. And so really it is just a formality in terms of when the calendar flips over for

the NFL and that will be next Wednesday that this will be officially announced. But yeah, I think you move forward with the sense that DJ's gone and now it's about, you know, what's the area that we want to address next? And as we know, there's two starting jobs open on the offensive line. There's a safety room that's completely vacant right now. There's a edge rushing room that probably needs a little bit of help. So the bears are going to have to start to go through their process now of attacking what they need to get. Man, what do you think specifically about the Max Crosby possibilities to the bears? Are you hearing anything differently?

Does that make sense more now than maybe it did yesterday? Nothing new on that front. I mean, I think, again, the bears are not the only team. involved in sort of kicking around on that. And so it really, you know, the Raiders have control of this until they don't. They've got the control of what the asking price is. The Bears have made it very clear, really through Ryan Poles' entire time as general manager that they set parameters.

And when things get outside those parameters, you have to have the discipline to say thanks, but no thanks. And so, like, that's going to be a fluid situation as the Raiders try to get the best possible deal for themselves, or if they don't find one that they like, they've got max Crosby under contract. through 2029. So they can just stand pat and try to make it work with him. That's been done before with other players in the past. And so, yeah, I would say it's fluid. But you do pick up a draft pick up cap space from this DJ more trade. And so like if that is really something that you

feel like is going to be an engine of helping you try to go chase the Super Bowl and you're able to create the resources to go make it happen, then you got to consider it. But again, I think those parameters that they've set that we're not privy to at this point will be key in that entire discussion. Dan, also, a lot of people bringing this up on our Twitch chat and on our text line, and it is valid. We still don't necessarily know if the Bears are completely cut off from receiving compensatory picks from the NFL for Ian Cunningham's movement. Is there still a chance that that would factor in? Because if so, this draft looks a whole lot better for the Bears than initially thought of.

And I know that league year begins next week. Right. And because we haven't heard anything on that, I'm operating under the, the assumption that it's not happening, right? Like, you know, the teams need to know what their draft board looks like when they're doing business like the Bears are doing right now, and with a trade like this. And so you would assume that if they were going to get those picks,

that there would have been some sort of formal announcement by now, the board gets set in stone, and it's cemented next week when that new league year begins. So I guess there's a small window here where something could change. But I have heard nothing other than a little bit of hope in the tone of Ryan Poles' voice last week that something would have. in that regard. So I'm just under the assumption that it's not going to.

Weedsie, just reflecting a little bit on DJ Moore's time here with the Chicago Bears. I was going through the list of all-time Bears wide receivers. He's at right now, according to Pro Football Reference, he is at number 17 all-time, just ahead of the great Wendell Davis and Cole Comette and Dennis McKinnon, who was at number 20 on that list. You and I had many conversations together with DJ Moore. We talk about him off the air. he's an interesting character, kind of unflappable. Your thoughts on DJ more as a bear, maybe on the field and even as a personality in that locker room.

Yeah, well, unique personality, and you and I have experienced it up close and personal more than once, and obviously score listeners have as well with DJ joining the morning show for a stretch of time there as well. You know, easy to talk to. You know, you didn't always know where the conversation was going to go, but he wasn't the guy that you were like, oh, man, this is dreadful to go have, you know, an audience with DJ for a little bit. So it was always fun to kind of pick his brain and then just sort of bugger yourself into that roller coaster. When DJ was part of that trade, less than three years ago with Carolina, you guys all remember where you were when that Blockbuster broke, you know, there was a sense that,

oh, wow, the bears are getting a proven receiver, you know, the likes of which, other than Brandon Marshall that this organization hadn't really seen. And his first couple of years here, he really produced to that level, and you felt really good about it. I mean, you think back to his first preseason game at Soldier Field and, you know, taking a short pass and turning into a big touchdown. And then obviously the iconic moment of the walkoff touchdown against Green Bay will live forever in Chicago, and people will never forget that moment or the feeling of that moment. And so those things will live on in DJ's legacy as a bear. But, you know, it's like all these things in the NFL, life comes at you fast.

And I don't think that anybody would have thought that this run with DJ would have ended in this way, this quick. quickly, and yet here he is moving on to his third team in Buffalo, and hopefully for his sake, pursuing a chance to go try to help that team to a Super Bowl. There's also this note from Adam Schefter that has come across. As part of today's trade, Buffalo will be guaranteeing $15.5 million of DJ Moore's 2028-based salary, per his agent's Drew Rosenhaus and Robert Bailey. Moore's 2026 salary is fully guaranteed, and his 2027 salary becomes fully guaranteed next week. Yeah.

Does that affect your thought process on this at all? How does that shake out for the bills? No. Like, that was always going to be sort of a two-year investment that whoever was trading for DJ was going to make, right? Like, and so it's essentially a two-year, $40 million dice roll to try to make him be a cornerstone of who you are offensively. I'm still sifting through some of the deadcap ramifications for the bears just based

on the extension that they gave him during training camp a couple years ago and what that means. Like, DJ had a $28.5 million salary cap hit if he remained on the Bears for 2026, but they don't get all 28.5 million of that back because of some of the dead cap ramifications. And so it's going to be interesting as the day goes on to just kind of sort through those numbers and figure out what the current cap situation looks like with the additional 10 coming from the Dahlman retirement and trying to piece together what this looks like as they go into the new league year next year trying to figure out what games they can play in and what they can't play in based on where their sailor-gap situation is. Dan Weider, I know you've got to go. Thank you so much for

joining the show and adding some much-needed understanding and perspective. You guys are the best. Enjoy the day. And then maybe you'll have some more breaking news before your shows up. Whoa. Okay. Okay. That's good to know. Dan. Thank you for that nugget. That's Dan Weider, Mark's co-host on Take the North. It's a fluid situation. I mean, it is. I mean, everything is floating about. So why not? Why not more? This is from Jane Slater, the NFL network reporter covering the Cowboys.

If you recall, the Cowboys were mentioned as part of the Max Crosby discussion by Brad Biggs yesterday. On Max Crosby and the Cowboys being at play here, here is what I'm being told from a team source. And when she says team, she means Cowboys. Raiders are talking to a lot of people, but we would not give up two first rounders. That's the situation now. Will it change? I don't know, but I checked for those of you interested. So the Cowboys seem to be under the understanding that it's two first rounders for Max Crosby still. And they ain't doing it. And you know, Danny said he didn't think so.

So it's got to be too, well, yeah, that's what, I mean, that's what's out there, right? Two first rounders and a legit player. It's the Micah Parsons deal. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So we'll see if that comes into play. But that's another nugget. And part of the reason we bring it up is because there's speculation from guys like Jordan Shultz out there saying he doesn't think the bears are done. And Dan just got off the phone with us making it sound like he may not think the bears are done.

Yeah, I mean, we know that there are things to do. I mean, I can't wait until next week when we're talking about free agency and deals starting to be put in place. Can I just say one thing? Yeah, and I could tell you wanted to say something, yeah. Max. Ray has a one-track mind. Max! Triple X, baby.

Max. He comes here. We're adding a third X to his name. Congratulations. We got you two all hooped up on those shamrock shakes yesterday. And now that's the only word you can say. Max. I got to tell you, like, there's downsides to Max, too.

There was a whole article written by Mike Silver in the Athletic 2. The age 29 going on 30 at this point. There was a surgery. There was a surgery. So teams are, and I guess Dallas would be one of them that is looking at that very closely. But if I'm the Raiders, of course. Like, stay strong. If the two first rounders and a player, the alternative is we get to keep Max Crosby with two axes on our team if you are the Raiders.

Stay strong. Yeah, worst case scenario, you still have Max Crosby. Yeah, you still have Max Crosby. But you're paying them over $35 million a year. Uh-huh. So there's that part of it. is very valid. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is wishcasting. But when I

heard about this trade, the first thing I thought was they were freeing up money to try to get Tyler Linderbaum. They might be. Thought. I'm not confirming anything. This is by no means a sourced report. This is sourced in my head. And I wondered aloud. They're just going to get everybody. Tyler Lindrebaum is coming. This is so this is so bears. The sky was falling. I'm talking about Bears fandom in the Bears world. The sky was falling. The holes were starting to pile up after this great 11-win season where you win your first playoff game in 15 years,

and the whole band's breaking up. And now not only is the band back together, but you feel rich at the moment, and the possibilities are not endless, but they are real right now. This is what happens when the salary cap is this high. You know, and you've got teams like the Raiders, even the Patriots, look at how much under the cap the Patriots are.

They've got a ton of money to work with, even though they ended up in the Super Bowl. They've still got a ton of money that they can work with. That is wild to me. So there's a lot of teams who can make a lot of moves. But there's no doubt Buffalo needed a wide receiver won. And unfortunately it came at the price of DJ Moore leaving, but Josh Allen finally got him. It's a great fit.

It's a great fit. That was the one thing that I thought, like looking at it objectively, like for the sake of DJ Moore, I said he's got to go to a team that is a winning team. It doesn't have to necessarily be a Super Bowl team. But at this point in his career, he deserves and needs a quarterback like Josh Allen. I mean, my God, he's been the experimental wide receiver for his entire career with Carolina where he didn't have quarterbacks. He did have good chemistry with Justin Fields. But, man, he had to work with a young quarterback there.

I remember talking to DJ Moore when we were all talking about the possibility. of Caleb Williams being here. And he said, being pretty transparent, like, it's all good and it's all great, but then we have to go through this whole learning process again.

And that's what he went through in the first year with Caleb Williams and never quite got that 10-level chemistry with the Bears number 18. And now he is going to work with his former offensive coordinator, Joe Brady, now the head coach in Buffalo. And he's going to work with Josh Allen.

The Bears. send a fifth round pick this season's draft to Buffalo. They get a 2026th. This year's second rounder in return. We will still continue with your calls. 312, 644, 67, 67. More on DJ Moore. Going to the Buffalo Bills next year on Rahimi Harrison Grody.

Rahimi Harrison Grody. I'm not a fan of any team. I'm just a fan of being right. Middays 10 to 2 on 1043, the score. at the end of the day is after Packers always. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 104-3

The Score. This is a very touch-and-go type of day for us as we break down the news about DJ Moore being sent to the Buffalo Bills that will be active when the league year changes. According to Tom Pelliserro, multiple reports as well, Adam Schefter,

the usual newsbreakers. The Bears will get a 2026, so this year second round pick in return. They are sending a fifth rounder along with DJ Moore. This freeze up a reported $16.5 million in cap space for the Bears. And we now try to figure out what's next. That's where we're at with this here on Rahimi Harrison Grotty, 1043, the score. Yeah, the Bears have the 25th overall pick in the draft in the first round. And now, remember last year, the Bears were pretty successful with their second round picks where you do have to hit,

and they did hit on Luther Bird and Ozzie Tripillo. Jury's still out on Shamar Turner right now, but I do love a good second round pick, so they've got two second round picks right now, a third round pick, a fourth round pick, a fifth round pick, and two seventh round picks. My guess is that that will still, that will be different by the time the draft comes around,

which is on April 23rd in Pittsburgh. So it's 25, the Bears picks on the first two days of the draft numerically. Mm-hmm. 25, 57, 60, 89. I like it. Not bad. I like it. Top 100.

You know, I'm scared of the Bears in the third round. You know that. You do have a, I was going to say, irrational, but rational fear. No, it's rational. Look up that history in the third round. Where's that little book? They smartly didn't have it. They did not have the third round pick last year.

Where's your little diary book? Is it in there? I know you've got all your receipts in there. Why do you think it's a diary? Because when I walked into the pre-show meeting today, you were sitting there with your legs crossed and you had you just look comfortable as you were writing. And it's a unique looking book. I was like, the first thing I said to Layla today was dear diary. And I was like, why are you saying dear diary if you meet to yourself? Do you know what I was writing about,

which should get at least a sentence of recognition today? A potential trade? No, Edward Cabrera's filthy, blanket change up. What the hell is that thing? Cubs got a guy with velocity. Velah, I'm seeing 98. Mark said he goes, it's nice that the Cubs have a guy who can throw fast. Yeah. Yeah, isn't it? That is nice. I mean, Kate Horton, you know, he's got that 96, but he doesn't have that 98. That we call that a plus plus fastball.

Let's continue with the calls here on Rahimi Harrison Grotie. 312-644-67 is our number. Tommy on the south side has been holding a long time. Tommy, we thank you for calling. Thank you. Thank you, guys, for having me. Sure, Tom. Well, I just wanted to thank you.

I wanted to say, we go on Ms. DJ, but I'm probably one of a few calls that's excited about the season, the upcoming. season because I look at it like this. I mean, uh, Luther Burton. I think he's a dog. I think he was hurt. He still finished over 600 yards receiving. Uh, if Cook went in a bad year, Missouri, he would have won in the first round. So we got two first round talents in him in Rome and the right receiver in Rome, stay healthy. Have we got opportunity to still? I mean, uh, I trust, you know, I trust what Ben is going to do with those young guys. And I trust that, uh, Colston's just going to explode. So even though we're born and DJ, but I think it's opportunity to

and I think every football player, especially those young receivers I cited about, you know, taking it to the next level. And now we just got to decide what we're going to do with that second round pick. You know, we'd be able to go from there and see what we're going to do with the cap money. I think we should address the center position. I don't think it's realistic that we're going to get. Max, I just don't think it'll be hard to pull that one. But I'm more concerned with the offensive lines because Ricky Caleb up,

I think the young wife received their step-by game. I mean, it's just about health. And, yeah, I think in a couple of years, Duke the brain will be the number one receiver. So, you know, I'm confident about that. That's a great question, too. We should add that to our five on it at some point time. Who's the new Bears, W-R-1?

Yeah. Or do you think it's T.E. 1? Because a lot of people think that's going to be Colson Loveland. But we could call a tight-end, a receiver. A tight-end is a receiver. So who is your top receiver? Colston-Lovland could be it. It would be nice to see either Roman Dunes,

or if we're talking about wide receivers, either Luther Burden or Roma Dunezay be that guy. Obviously, ideally it's Rome because of where you drafted him, but I wouldn't be mad if it was Luther Burden who was second, or no, he was, where was burdened for them?

He was fourth. He was fourth in receiving last year. 60 catches, 652 yards. They were all right in the same ballpark. More 682. O'Dunesay 661, Burden 652, and your leader, Colston Loveham, the only receiver, on the Bears last year to be over 700 yards.

He had 713, but it's a really interesting question. And I like that he brought up Ben Johnson, too, because that feels like the fail safe in all of this. As soon as I start to panic about the loss of DJ Moore and having to depend on those young wide receivers, I think, hmm, the Bears have Ben Johnson. He's pretty good at developing these guys and making them good and making them good on the field.

Don't get any ideas, Ben Johnson. Don't get any ideas to suddenly retire. I don't want to hear it out of you. Whoa, why did you even put that out there? Ben Johnson retiring? I didn't. Man. Did somebody put that out there?

Well, the retirement talk has been out there from Drew Dalman, so that's why I wanted to bring it up. Don't get any ideas, Ben. Okay. Don't attach that to Ben Johnson. He's our most important Ben. Franklin is up there. Yes. Let's go to Steve and Valparaiso.

Steve. Steve, are you with us? Hi, guys. Hi. Hi. Before we give away the farm for Max Crosby, have anybody thought about all these great pass rushers and how they've been injured? He's talking about it?

I think Aidan Hutchinson, Micah Parsons, all these guys get the big contracts. They don't really finish a year. But when they're playing. I'm thinking go for a draft pick. If you can find a young guy, it's not injury prone. and spend the money on this center. I understand why that's a concern, because any time you have a big money player who suffers an injury,

that's going to be it. If you're the Packers, for example, you know you gave up a ton to get Micah Parsons, you depended on him, and then he was out with the ACL. But in turn, and I know Max Crosby had a cleanup, but he maintained that he was fine. He showed the videos of him doing, you know, he's jumping on the trampoline with his daughter.

I don't think he felt like he was done for the season. The Raiders announced that he was being shut down for the season. That at that point might have been a business decision. I'm not sure. So that's a part of this too, is sometimes are you more inclined to get a cleanup surgery or are you more inclined to get something done when you know you're not going to be with that team next year and your overall career is still very much in play? Yeah, and the injury thing can, of course,

The bears, we have to trust that the bears will do on whomever they bring in their due diligence on the player injury-wise. But this is the risk you take with any position in football, not just defensive ends, any high-paid premium elite position. Of course, you have to worry about the possibility that the player is going to get injured. Aidan Hutchinson broke his leg. I don't know how you fix that. I don't know how you prevent it. Trey Hendrickson, that was a core. muscle hip injury surgery.

You know, he had that done as well. So I understand why they're a concern. But at the same time, that's the price you pay with anybody of consequence, being huge in the game, and having that much of an effect on the game and getting injured. The Bears were without their best defensive player last year in Jalen Johnson. Jalen Johnson was out for the whole year. The guys that they paid resources into and money into on the defensive line were

essentially out. Daya O'Dangbo was injured after however many games. Is injured. Is injured. We'll still. Lady Jared had to have a surgery that we didn't necessarily know about the arthroscopic, correct? Oh, Grady Jared did. Yes.

You are correct. I swear he's going to bust through this glass window one day. Just come running at us. No, because he doesn't like the cold of Chicago. He's no one. Remember, like famously. He did. He's like me.

His nose runs when it's below 75. He was like, what do you guys want to do, practice to go hang out in a refrigerator to get used to the cold of Chicago? I do think he was a little bit affected by that, which I understand. He played his whole life indoors in Atlanta. 312-644-67. Is our number you can call us and text us. I don't know if I'm going this far.

312, Texas, this should make it easier to retain alamede Zakias, who seemed to have a good rapport and I believe as a free agent. I am not there. Is he a free agent? I thought a Lomaday was, we'll check that. I did think about Alamede. I'm not.

But if I, especially if I never see in a Lomedei's third down playoff rep again, I'm okay? He had some dropsy's this year, but that was kind of par for the course, the way the season went on for a lot of the Bears' wide receivers. That is not the guy I'm thinking about. I know he's signed a one-year deal. Yeah, the Bears are good. There will be more wide receivers here, obviously.

We, Lail and I just ran through the drafts. You have picks in the third, fourth, fifth, and two in the seven. I mean, there will be resources put into receivers, obviously. He also didn't block enough. He didn't block when he was supposed to block. And what did Ben Johnson famously say? No rock. No block, no rock.

And, okay, so 630 says, I never want to see Zakias in a bear's uniform ever again. That's a good way to describe the text line where one text completely contradicts the other. So let's go back to the phones. 312, 64, 64, 67, 67. And Jared and us, or is it Gerard in Oswego? sorry, there's a bit of a glare here. Oh, it's Brad and Oswego.

Yeah, Brad? Sorry, the lights. It rhymes. Sorry, Brad. Wow, those lights must be real bright. I love listening to you guys. It's all right. So my son and I are going to miss singing Lil Wayne's Go DJ.

That's my D.E.J. Every time he makes a play. Nice. But I do think this is in the bear's best interest. The reality is. is DJ's not getting any younger. And in my humble opinion, I don't think he was on the same page with Ben or Caleb.

And having a guy like Luther Burden, who I think is going to be as good or better than DJ when all said and done, I think this sets us up to make some more moves. Acquiring another day one draft pick that we can either use for a player or even trade for a max. and I think this is good for the Bears. I think you are one of many people who feel that way. Like this is, it's been a polarizing discussion,

but now that it's actually happening, I think people can kind of absorb it in a different way. It's interesting with DJ Moore, because it's a rare circumstance where you could take both sides of the DJ Moore value to the Bears with the Bears debate in either way. He's this 18th best

wide receiver the Chicago Bears have ever had. That's not, but he had three years here. You know, it's not like, like, if you measure his three-year span against somebody else's three-year span, how do you look at it then? Well, the point is, is there haven't been a whole lot of wide receivers

that have come through have been this productive for the Chicago Bears. Yeah. Do you disagree with that? I do not. But I also, and I also think to that end, when you consider that he had three years out of his eight-year career here,

and that that three-year span included a career year and receiving yards for him, his first year that he was here. And, you know, the moment of the year, for example, catches of consequences, you like to say. Right. He had an excellent run. But even 18th, I don't think, when you consider the entire Bears,

do you think that that gives it the proper context? My point was going to be that there has never been a player that I could think of, that you could make the point to say, this is an incredibly valuable player on the Chicago Bears right now. But on the other side of it, just like the caller just made the point, you could also say, yeah, there was chemistry issues with Caleb Williams. There were games where were like one target, zero targets? Where is DJ Moore? So you can like on each side of the debate of DJ Moore and what his value to the Bears was, which sounds weird to say right now,

you can make the case that he was terrific and you could also make the case that he was disappointing for the Bears. See, and I think that that's, think about the last play we saw him play as a bear. bear. That was disappointing. I mean, isn't that, isn't that the absolute, like, essence of it, that he made the best catch, maybe, or one of the great catches in Bears' history,

and at the end, all of a sudden, we felt empty. That is, that is perfectly put right there. There's two sides to DJ Moore with the Bears. You come over here and see how bright this light is on the call screen. I'm not even kidding. You can see it for yourself. Are you want to take another call while I walk over there? Well, I will tell you this real quick.

there was a guy that called in. Now, we were getting flooded with calls as you hear the phone ringing off the hook here in the control room. Stand right here. Oh, man, that's bright. Yeah, peripheral brightness. We're going to call that.

You can't see anything, can you? I can't see so good. Where's my glasses? He's all making fun of me, and it's like, okay, you want to see this for yourself? Don't knock it until you try it. So as Mark Grody gets his headphones back on, we get a call as we're getting several calls

into the score control room. A guy calls in and says, and I say, this is 104 through the score. What do you want to say about DJ Moore? And he says, DJ Moore, you guys aren't talking about WBC? I said, sorry, man. No, he was so disappointed. He is, like, I guess just an oblivious baseball lover. And I just thought that was great.

And that poor, that poor guy is every reason to believe we should be talking about the world baseball class. On a normal day. You know what? I'm sorry. I'm sorry, random caller. It's just that kind of day where there's too much news. And the Ben Johnson, no.

No! No! Okay, so more, your calls are making us talk more because you bring up good points. So if you guys are willing to stay on the line, let's just keep it rolling. Let's keep it rolling all show. I don't even care anymore. 312, 644, 67, you're in with us, man. We're reacting to the DJ Moore News and more here on 1043, the score. Chicago, man, it's cold here every day, man.

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Our poor caller, Brad. I think you can still listen to the song, but it just doesn't apply to DJ. war anymore. Now it just applies to grownups and children's and in-betweens. I like that he's bonding with his son over this song. Over the music of our people. Yeah.

You can't, there's not every artist you can bond with. Like, that father and son or mother and daughter can bond over. But here we are. If I had a child, they would know the ways of old school cash money. Yeah. Absolutely. I can see that. Oh, yeah.

The Rahimi children would be well versed in much music. you've got a good palate. Instead, it's just my siblings who roll their eyes at me, just like all of you. No, but they don't have traits. You've got traits. They have traits for like important things, like careers. Real life stuff. 312, 6444, 67, 67 is our number.

We continue on the phones. Let's go to Sean and Bolingbrook. Sean, you're on Rehemi Harrison Grotie on the score. Hey, guys. How are you? Good, Sean. Good. Hey, I had a kind of a quick walk-in to my,

my kind of question in the beginning. But first off, Rome has had two years now being with DJ Moore and Keenan Allen, having the first year, DJ Moore. So as a top pick, he should be more than prepared for year three. Luther had more for a year and obviously showed more chemistry than DJ. Definitely Caleb, I don't think, had a good rapport with, DJ Moore as far as chemistry-wise, not personality-wise. And it brings me to my quote that I always go back to with receivers is Musa Muhammad saying Chicago is where receivers go to die.

And this poor guy, you know, comes over, does well with a lesser quarterback in Justin Fields, a struggling rookie quarterback, and the guy's nothing but quality. He's the high point in the locker room. And I couldn't be more happy that he's going to Buffalo and going to finally be another one receiver again for Josh Allen. So I just thought that that quote spoke volumes about receivers. Yeah, I think it's a little bit different, though, with Mousin, Muhammad. That's a different time. And look, you're right.

The chemistry was not perfect with Caleb Williams. But here's two things. DJ Moore was a productive Bears wide receiver, and they did win games. in a winning season where you want a playoff game because of DJ Moore. That's a huge distinction to make right there. Yeah, and I think it's probably the most important one when we talk about this. His targets went down and I'd maintain he can't target himself. But when he was targeted outside of the one pass place we just discussed, you know,

he's the reason he caught that game winning touchdown against the Packers, for example, on that Saturday night game on December 21st. You know, this is why we're talking about him, the way we are. He had been consistent, and he had also made catches that led to game winners. So that's why that's important. We stay on the phones, 312, 64-64, 67, 67 is our number. Let's go now to Mike in Tampa. Mike, you're on Rahimi Harrison Grotie. Hey, guys. How you doing? Hi, Mike. Good. How are you?

I'm doing absolutely fantastic. I love this trade for both Chicago and Buffalo. I'm a big Josh Allen fan. I'm more of a Bears fan. Don't get me wrong. I am a Bears fan. True blue. I've met Walter Payton. I've met Dick Buckus.

I've met the fridge. I am a true blue bear's head. Trust me. But this is great for DJ. He gets a good news start. He gets a great quarterback to throw to him. It's great for us because we get the cap relief that we really need desperately, quite frankly. And we get a second round pick.

I don't like the idea of signing Max Crosby or giving away one or two or whatever picks you want to give away for him. There's other good defensive end rushers. They may not be Max Crosby, but you got Hendricks out there. You got Chubb out there. You got defensive ends that we can pick up without giving up draft picks. The fact that we now have two draft picks in the second round is huge. I'm really happy about this because it gives us the cap space we need.

Now we can re-sign Bayard at safety, which will, you know, alleviate at least part of our safety problem. The one thing that I would probably look at is we could possibly restructure Cole Commet. DeAndre Swift, as good as he has been, Kyle Menangay came in and did almost as good a job as Swift he did. And there's a lot of really good running backs. if you watch the combine, there's a lot of really good running backs that are going to be available. So if we want to get some more cap space, Swift you might be the next one to go. I appreciate the call. I do not think that Kyle Menongai did as well as DeAndre Swift, who had a career year.

Correct, yeah. If you had to pick between those two running backs, like you can only have one, it's DeAndre Swift. DeAndre Swift, in the regular season, had 1,087 yards rushing. And yeah, Menongai had 783 yards rushing. But D'Andre Swift also had 300 yards receiving. And so when you put that together, I don't think the two are the same. No, DeAndre Swift right now is a better player. By the way, we're going to have Alan Robinson coming on here in just a little bit.

And to his point, too, like, I don't think I've said it or given my opinion on it because we've just been taking all this news in and it's been fluid. I do think this is a good trade. This is a good trade. For all that we're talking about, all the value that DJ Moore has had, my relationship with DJ Moore, all of that, this is a good trade for the $16.5 million in cap savings and for the second round pick, which the Bears did good work with last year. It doesn't mean they're going to repeat that. But on the overall, this is a good deal for the Chicago Bears. They could afford to lose a receiver.

They were position rich at receiver. They had depth at that spot. I agree with that. I just worry that when it's the person who I think made the most catches of consequence, I know Luther Burden's getting up there, I know Colson Loveland had many, I just think that that's going to, how are you going to replace him? Are you expecting the growth of your other receivers to replace him? Ben Johnson said, receivers need to catch the ball better.

And in my mind, the receivers who were still part of that catch the ball better are still on the team. So how much do they have to now cover for what DJ Moore's production was? But all of that said, when it comes to where they could afford to lose somebody, even though he was the number one. And as we've mentioned at the time, A.A.V. Highest paid player. I think it had to be done if they think that they've got some big targets, either in free agency or possibly in the draft via trade, something. It just makes me believe that if they're going to take this big swing,

another one is probably on the way. Probably. And yeah, they absolutely are depending on and projecting the guys like Colson, Loveland and Luther Burton, to be better, even better than they were this year. They have to be better next year. And that is, that's part of the equation. And I don't think it's a terrible projection considering what we saw out of those two rookies this year. Also, D'Andre Swiss averaged 4.9 yards a carry.

and Kyle Binaigai was at 4.6, so I want to mention that part of two. And guess what? One of your best run blockers is now no longer on the team. That would be Drew Dalman. So, yeah. Frustrating. Let's talk about this with a guy who knows some ball. Former Bears receiver Alan Robinson joins us next on Rahimi Harrison.

Thanks to the breaking news, DJ Moore, headed to Buffalo via trade. The score! Did the scouts expect you to be what you become? I don't think so. I don't think a lot of people did. For me, I definitely expected myself to play at this level. But when did you know that you were good? I've known since I was five years old. He's got a fresh set of downs at the 32-yard line.

Play action down the middle of the field. It is Robinson and two. The end zone. Anderson twice keeping this thing alive. Big plays. Stafford. Robinson, jumpball touchdown. Now, funny locker room stories.

I don't know about any funny, man. Ben is a pretty serious locked in dude, you know. He's like that constantly. You know, Ben, every blue moon, you know, Ben, a crack one of those kind of evil smiles, if you will. With Rahimi Harrison Grody on 1043, the score. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 1043, the score. And Alan Robinson joins us on our hotline, the Pro Bowl wide receiver,

Chicago Bear from 2018 to 2021. co-host of the press release podcast. He is at Alan Robinson on X. And he joins us on Twitch. Twitch.tv slash the Score Chicago. Alan, thanks for coming on on a very busy breaking news day here. I appreciate it.

Thank you guys having me. What is your initial reaction to hearing the news that DJ Moore goes to be in Buffalo, his former OC is now the head coach and Joe Brady? And he's playing with Josh Allen and is traded away from the Bears. You know,

something that doesn't surprise me. Even at the Combine, when you look at the players that the Bears currently have on their roster, they had a lot of young players on the offensive side of the ball, really performing. I would say outperform as far as expectation was in year one. And when you look at how to get Colston Loveland more opportunities, how to get Luther Burden more opportunities, sometimes you have to add by doing subtraction. And that in this case was DJ Moore. But at the same time, I feel like for DJ Moore, the opportunities that he wants to have and that he wants to look at as more of a number one guy, I think that fits in Buffalo well.

Obviously, he has the familiar face with Joe Brady who knows how to utilize a skill set like that, who just took over. It's been talks this entire offseason on how and will the Buffalo bills add another weapon for Josh Allen. And they did that today. I think it's a win-win for both sides. Yeah, we know that DJ Moore has that. that star potential. And we've been using the chemistry word to talk about the Caleb Williams and DJ Moore, which has kind of run hot and cold, some of the biggest catches in franchise history by DJ Moore and then games where we're all looking up the statistics and saying,

where's the targets, where's the catches? Chemistry's a funny thing because it's like in your case, Alan, you had great chemistry with Mitch Trubisky and that it just wasn't the same with Justin Fields. Can you relate to that a little bit and how this opportunity, as successful as he was with the Bears, could be even better for DJ Moore? Yeah, and I think it's styles. And I say styles because even for myself with Mitchell, Mitchell always had the whole field at his disposal and being able to go through his rees. Sometimes a lot of plays that were made with Justin Fields may be more of scrimble-like plays. So now you're talking about what side of the field are these plays happening on?

Is he being flushed out or is he escaping out of a play? particular side. Now when you look at halves of the field and how that may take place with a mobile quarterback, even though Josh Allen is mobile as well, I think we've saw the consistency that he's had with guys like Stefan Diggs in his

past to be able to get the ball to a number one receiver. We're talking to Alan Robinson co-hosted the press release podcast, former Bears receiver here on 104 3, the score. Alan, one of the things I thought about too was we saw that DJ Moore's number of targets went down this year. And before

I talk about a receiver's production, I always say, well, he can't target himself. And there are times where I feel like sometimes just a function of plays can limit whether or not you're in a quarterback's line of sight. How do you speak to that knowing, say, if you're getting a lot of pressure on the left side, that's where the weakness of the Bears line was last year. And you've got a rush on the left side. Naturally, quarterback's going to roll out to the right. Okay, well, if you're a receiver on the left side, it's going to make you less likely to be the read on that play. What do you think about just that concept and how that would work out when it comes to production overall? I think that's definitely a factor. You know, I think when you look at all the factors,

that's definitely one. Then you also have to look at what side of the field is the quarterback escaping to that's most comfortable for him. That's also something to be factored in. And now you also have to factor in, where is this person being placed in the progression? Because as we know, sometimes some of your more veteran receipts, some of your more veteran quarterbacks, if you will, the Matthew Stafford's, the Jared Gough's can hang in there and get to their third and fourth read. But sometimes for younger quarterbacks and who also are more mobile, they don't get past their second read. They like to use their legs. And then once they use their legs to extend the play, now they find a receiver. But being able to stay on script, if you're not the first or second target, or sometimes even if you are the second target with all those factors being involved,

sometimes it can have a reduction in targets just by the sheerness of those factors that take. place on a Sunday. I know you follow the whole NFL and obviously you're always keeping an eye on your ex-team the Bears. What have you thought about this off season for the Bears with what happened today? With

Drew Dalman pulling the surprise party on everybody by retiring at the age of 27. Right now you don't have a left tackle. You almost don't have linebackers. You don't have safeties right now. And maybe you could speak to like the NFL in general and the way it works, but what have

thought about the Bears off season in general. And the way it looks relative to just feels like last week we were all thrilled over the fact that the Bears beat Green Bay in the playoffs or we're headed to take on L.A. in the next round. Yeah, this is about how I thought it would be. For me, I've learned

from playing in the NFL that each year is its own kind of entity and how you kind of get to that can be different. So we knew, well, at least I thought coming into this with some of the weapons that they have and with those guys really needing more. opportunities come into this year that there may be a chance somebody on that offense that's there

this past season wouldn't be there. Now, when you look at the defensive side of the ball, the linebacker course, secondary, there's always moves that can be made. Obviously, when you have the subtraction of a DJ Moore, you now acquire some draft capital. So now you're able to either use that in the draft or trade and use that. So there's many ways in this NFL to be able to skin a cat, if you will, on how you acquire talent, rather if that's free agency or draft. Please excuse the alarmed look for Mark. Alan.

Mark has a cat at home, so I think he took that one a little alarmed. Yeah, he made a face. I'm disappointed in you, Alan. But you're right. There's a lot of different ways to go about this. When you consider, though, how catastrophic this can be, or does the overall effect on an offense that was functioning well

and thought perhaps at least that, many of the long-term pieces were in place, and the Bears still don't have a set answer at left tackle because of Ozzie Tripillo's injury. How can this affect an offense, in your understanding as a former player, how much can this really change things? You know, it has the possibility of changing things.

You know, now you're really leaning on the development of your players, of some of your young players from year one to year two. You know, but when you draft guys in the first round, when you draft guys in the second round, that's something that you kind of foresee as you're sitting in those draft rooms of okay where will these guys be at in year one to year two and i think they're on pace so there is a there is a risk that you that you take when you have a veteran player that has been there one of your leaders now exits the building but now it's the opportunity for some of your young guys to step up as well

this will be year three for Caleb so he's not he's not on the younger side or or rookie side anymore and I say that because some guys still consider rookies, guys in year two before they play three games that year are rookie. So you have guys that have to step up. And I think that's on the coaching staff and on the development of the players. But it is a risk, but you have the pieces in place that need to step up. But, Alan also just made me think that, like, of course you're better off having DJ more in your wide receivers room. But it's different because Caleb Williams, like, he's coming up with Roma Dunes. He's coming up with Luther Bird and Colston Loveland.

These are his guys. So he doesn't have to, you know, for whatever reason, like we talked about the chemistry, he doesn't have to sort of like force it now to DJ Moore. Like DJ Moore is not getting his. I've got to get the ball to DJ Moore. He's growing with these young guys. Is there something to that? Because again, I see the parallel with you back in 2018.

Once they've figured it out, get the ball to Alan Robinson as much as possible, even though you have other weapons like Anthony Miller. and company and some of the guys that you had on that 2018 team. Yeah, you know, I definitely think it can ease the mind of a quarterback. But, you know, again, man, you're really trusting it. You're really trusting on the development of the young players and just the cohesiveness that Caleb Williams will have with those guys. I even look at example like to where DJ Moore is going.

DJ Moore is now going to the Buffalo Bills. Once the Buffalo Bills got rid of Stefan Diggs, there were, Josh Allen didn't necessarily have to force the ball to digs all the time. And sure enough, right after, they were in need of a weapon. So sometimes it can help, but sometimes it can hurt. But again, differently than that situation, I think the Chicago Bears have the weapons in place that I think, like you said before, having a younger crew of guys who can just kind of develop together and come up together,

I think that will be good for them. Alan, also, we just are seeing a lot of big name receivers move around the league now. Yeah, this is a trend that happened, I want to say, like maybe five or six years ago, where some of the biggest names like Tyreek Hill goes to Miami from Kansas City, for example. That seems to just be part of it. George Pickens gets traded. He gets the franchise tag on the tag deadline day earlier this week. What do you think about just the movement when it comes to some of the biggest names who are receivers with big contracts,

getting dealt like this all across the league? Yeah, I mean, we've, you know, we're in kind of uncharted territory now when it comes to just player moving. and from a day-to-day basis, anybody can be moved. I remember a day where quarterbacks didn't really get released. Now you see quarterbacks, you saw Kyler Murray possibly getting released. You see Kirk Cousins on the market to possibly get released. So when you see things like that, the NFL continues to change and continues to evolve. So, I mean, I'm a person, again, where there weren't many trades.

When I first came into the NFL, you didn't see a lot of big trades when it came to skill position guys and quarterbacks. but now that's something that just becomes a part of the norm. Why do you think that is? I think when you see teams do it and it kind of works, when you see the L.A. Rams trade for Jalen Ramsey, and he comes in and does what he does. When you see the GM for the Rams trade, some of the draft capital,

and then they win the Super Bowl, and he has a shirt that says, F those picks. It's a copycat league. It's a copycat league. People see what other guys are doing, and something that may have been, been extremely valuable in previous years, which to some still are, first round draft picks. They are as valuable to others as that. They would rather have the more proven talent to bring

into their building. Obviously, we just saw the Rams again trade for a cornerback yesterday from Kansas City and use one of those first round draft picks. So people go about it different ways, but it's kind of a copycat league. And I think people are a little less afraid now to trade some of those bigger names and bigger contracts. I think about the Matt Stafford trade too, You know, I think about the Matthew Stafford trade, and that seems him to L.A. Jared Goff goes to Detroit, and it worked out for everybody. Definitely, definitely. And again, I think that's what, and, you know, shout out to those teams for making that happen,

because I think that's what makes it so cool is that things like that and situations like that do work out for everybody. Even looking at the trade today with DJ Moore, I do think that's probably in the best interest of DJ Moore and the Chicago Bears. They get some draft capital. younger guys get to get on the field and get some more opportunities. DJ Moore goes to Buffalo, a team that needed a receiver. And I think both teams win.

Well, and I'll put you in DJ Moorses for example. If you found out that you were going to work with Josh Allen and your former offensive coordinator, how would you feel if you were in that position? I would be excited because obviously there's been rumblings that he may be dealt this offseason at some point in time anyway. So once you kind of swallow that pill and get an understatement, understanding that I may be dealt. I may not be on the Chicago Bears next year. Now it's what's the next best situation? And I think him going to an offensive coordinator that

he had a tremendous amount of success with and also a quarterback like Josh Allen, I don't think it gets much better than that. Talking to the former bear, Alan Robinson, right here on Rahimi Harris and Grotie. Focus of the day, if you're just turning on your radio, DJ Moore has been traded to the Buffalo Bills. The Bears getting back a second round pick this year in the draft. Alan, what do you think about what's been going on with AJ Brown going back to this season in Philadelphia and some of his unhappiness? And I know teams like New England are talking about

potentially acquiring AJ Brown. What do you think about that talent? And I don't know. I doubt anything would happen with the bears that he would end up a bear. But what do you think about AJ Brown? I don't think that he'll end up a bear. But I think he's a phenomenal player. I could see him still being in Philadelphia next year. I mean, Philadelphia is a team where when you look at their offense, I don't think they can get better by trading a player like that, even if it's for a draft capital. That's a team that has been win now for the past

three to four years, maybe even dating back to five years. So I don't know if they can just fill that void or if they have the talent on the roster like the Chicago Bears, the young talent on the roster like the Chicago Bears to be able to trade one of their veteran receivers. But I could also, you know, Howie Roseman, he's a dealer, man. He'll make trades. He'll make moves and he's not afraid to move him. So you can't rule anything out. Where do you put Howie Roseman in line, like how you rank NFL GMs, Alan? He's up there for me. He might be the best in the league. He's up there for me. He's up there for me too. I will put him at, I will put him at number two. I'll put him at one or two. You know, him and less, man, they, there are some

willing and dealing guys who have been able to keep their team in contention for a long time now. I love doing power rankings with you. Maybe he'll do wide receivers. see you're here in a second, but I don't see your retirement papers yet. This is what opens the door for you to finally get that invite back to Ben Johnson and Bears training camp. Is that what's going on here, Alan Robinson?

Listen, as as much as I would love that, you know, I think that those days are gone and behind me, again, I had a blast plan for Ben Johnson. I love the city of Chicago, but, you know, but hey, you know, you can't, like you said before, never,

you know, never say never, but I do think those days are long gone. Are you done like playing period? I mean, obviously that makes sense that it might not be a fit with the bears, but are you, are you calling it, Alan Robinson? Not exactly yet. We'll see. We'll see.

We'll see. But I haven't made a final decision on that either way yet. When you hear somebody retiring early like Drew Dolman at 27, obviously a very different position from yours, he being a center, you being a receiver. but when you hear about him retiring early, like what goes through your mind when you, what was your initial reaction? You know,

when you think about some of those guys that are planting in the trenches, you know, those positions can be pretty brutal. I mean, even look at Frank Ragnall, you know, he in Detroit, you know,

he plays center. He had a pretty unexpected retirement as well, you know, so, but shout out to those guys, man, take care of yourself, take care of your mental,

take care of your physical. You know, when you've played in this league and the amount of time and stuff that guys have to dedicate to the game, whether that's getting themselves ready to play on Sunday mentally or physically some guys who've dealt with injury, I look at myself. You know, after I broke my foot in L.A., just the amount of maintenance each and every day that it took to get my body ready to play. You know, sometimes that can become pretty grueling. So at this day and age, man, with guys getting paid in NIL and stuff like that, I'm not surprised by early retirement.

It's shocking, though. I mean, it was. It is. It is. And again, and I'll say this, that's a position in Ben Johnson and that kind of system that's very, I'm not going to say dependent, but it's a very big chest piece when you have a good center like that. Again, even last year, I thought as tough as it was for the Detroit Lions to lose Ben Johnson, I think it was even more tougher than to lose Frank Ragnow as well. Yeah, I feel like that's true. He's the first person I thought of when this happened with Drew Dalman. That was the first name that came in my mind. he's the first person that came to my mind as well. And I know he had a foot injury that was pretty debilitating for him. He did.

He did. Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Then I got to ask you about this because you grew up in Detroit. You're a Lions fan at heart. Did it crush your soul when Barry Sanders retired and then even to a different degree, Megatron down the line? Yeah. I mean, I was young when Barry retired.

But definitely when you see greats like that retiring prematurely. it definitely hurts your heart. But now looking back at it, hearing Calvin Johnson speak on just kind of how his body felt and what it would take for him to get going each and every Sundays and just the overall length of how he had to take treatment, even up in time to game day, to sleep in his hyperbaric chamber, day before the game and waking up at 3 a.m. to go home to sleep in the hyperbaric chamber. So guys are doing a lot to get their bodies ready to play on Sundays. And sometimes it just becomes a bit too much.

Robinson, per usual. This has been fantastic conversation. Thank you so much for joining us today. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Thanks, Alan. And if you want more of Alan Robinson, you can catch his podcast, the press release podcast. He's also at Alan Robinson on X. He does actually post. So Alan Robinson once again, we thank him for joining us today on Rahimi Harrison Grotie. People are still holding on the phones. Let's talk to him. I think we have to. That's keep the customers with. Quick break. Then we'll get to all those calls. Yeah, because you guys have been on hold for a while. And unlike some bad, like, customer

line, we're going to talk to you. So we'll do that next. 312, 644, 67, following the news about DJ Moore, going to the bills next. Rahimi Harrison Grody, Midday's Tyndal 2, on Chicago Sports Radio

1043, the score. Now, Chicago can use the clock as little to automatically right now. They're in fuel bill range. They want to get seven. They can use o'clock. William's going to just take the lead when you can.

25 yards. Six days, 66 yards in 68 seconds. That's how you do it. DJ Moore. Now going to the Buffalo Bills. This is Rahimi Harris and Grotie on 104 through the score. And we said we take your calls. And some of you have been waiting a really long time.

And unlike bad customer hotlines, we're going to pay it off. So Caleb and Minooka, you're on Rahimi Harrison Grotie. Yeah, so I like this trade, but I'm wondering how we're going to get a deal for Max Crosby. You guys have any idea? Okay, well, the good news is they just freed up $16.5 million in cap space, and Max makes over 35. So does that help you get from point A to B at all? Any? Yeah, it does, a little bit. Okay, we got you, man. You doing it? You okay? You all right?

Yeah, I'm good. Okay. The other thing, too, is I agree with you. Like, if the real deal, if the Raiders are serious and they want the, quote, Micah Parsons deal, then theoretically, the Bears probably had the best to offer with a DJ Moore and some sort of first round package to offer. But their biggest trade chip just got traded because he was their biggest trade chip. So the question becomes, does anybody else have a better offer? And, you know, the Cowboys report that we got from Jane's later of Edified.

Network earlier today said the Cowboys don't want to give up two first rounders for Max Crosby so that also is something when in doubt look at other teams as well yeah it is interesting too to think now you just mentioned DJ Moore being the number one asset like real player on a team that the Raiders would be desirous of at this point I'm trying to think of who that would be the bears obviously have two first round picks in the next two years that they give away but who is that player now that, and don't think of it from a Bears, like who would you, you know, you wouldn't mind giving up a DeAndre Swift or Colt Komett. Think like the Raiders. Who would the Raiders take off the Bears' roster right now?

And you've got to start with the best. Colston Loveland, they would say, how about your Luther burden? We'll take your Luther burden from you. I'll give you free agent, Alameda Zakias, who is not under contract with the team currently for Max Max Crosby straight up. We'll take your Montez sweat. Ooh, would you do that? A sweat swap for Crosby? I don't necessarily know that they want that much money on their books if they really want to build around Fernando Mendoza in this way. Although they are insane amount under the cap.

They are oodles under the cap. So I need to double check the numbers. But for example, Ashton Genties are fifth highest paid players. So there's that. The rookie running back. Yeah. So when you consider that, that's significant. Let's go to Jesse in Orlando next. Jesse, you've been waiting a long time. We thank you.

Hey, I appreciate you guys. So I just want to touch on a few things here. I think Bears fans should be rejoicing. We overpaid DJ Moore, who to me is not a true number one. Yes, he made some plays, but that's what you got paid for. Caleb throwing him that touchdown wide open against the Packers wild card. He's doing his job. Overall, doesn't play through the whistle, wasn't really a leader on the sidelines. as a quarterback, you want that belief in that energy from your best receiver, your number one receiver, right? But more importantly, I think now we need to do a massive overhaul. Trey Hendrickson, Tyler Lyndonbaum would fit perfectly with the Bears.

You got money now. Keep your draft picks. Build depth now. We have the toughest schedule in the NFL next year. We need to build depths. So if guys do get down, you know, I think Max would have been a great idea. but overall, you don't need Max Crosby. We can't just have one guy like Max Crosby coming off of a surgery.

If he gets hurt, then what? Now you're SOL. So, you know, I think overall the Bears have, you know, I trust polls, I trust our coaching staff. We drafted, you know, top in the league last year. So they know what they're doing. I love the Bears. And one other side point I wanted to make,

I know you mentioned you were pretty quick to pick Swift over Menongai, but Menongai had nearly 60 less carries then Swift averaging five yards of carry that puts him well over a thousand yards rushing the business side of it Menongai obviously on a rookie deal I think going into his second year he's on the incline swift potentially could be in the decline but our O line is overall just great and you could have ran through some of those holes so overall I love where the bears are at I think this is a great deal for both teams but I think you know bills also have their issues on defense so I don't necessarily think DJ Moore puts them over the top to be a contender next year. Good call from Jesse and Orlando. I will say this. Yes, you were right. Menungai did have a decent season, but it was DeAndre Swift who averaged 4.9 yards of carry. Menongai was 4.6. That's not a big difference. So I see where your upside is at when you're trying to gauge it in the future.

I don't think Kyle Menongai is yet a number one bulk carry running back in the NFL. And I noticed he said, well, you know, Swift could be on the decline. No, in fact, he's on the upswing. He'd hit a really good year with Ben Johnson. So while I'm not here to denigrate Kyle Manungai in any way, shape, or form, because he was a bit of a revelation considering where he was drafted, but Swift is better than Menongai every day. He was your Menongai. He was my Manung guy. I love, I can't wait to see what happens, but let's not get carried away. And I agree, like, too, like the only other thing to it, I'll be critical of the call.

Let's not diminish what to say, well, he's supposed to catch a wide open play in the end zone. Get out of here with that. There was some spectacular catches made by DJ Moore. Was it a good trade? Yes, is a good trade. Were there chemistry issues? Yes. Were there body language issues with DJ Moore?

Yes. But let's not like go through, like act like everything was bad with DJ just to make a point. And by the way, a lot of the downfield blocking on the runs from Swift and Menongai came from who? DJ Moore. So let's point that out as well. DJ Moore was it an excellent downfield blocker. Yes.

It's a tough guy. And there were even times where he was used out of the backfield because the running game wasn't going the way they wanted it to. Do you realize too, by the way, then I probably have done it myself. I think I have.

If Tyler Linderbom is to view the Bears, we're going to have problems because he gave us a Lindenbaum. We're going to get Linden bombs. We're going to get Linder bombses. like that it's not going to be pretty in terms of the Chicago pronunciations that will occur if if Tyler Linderbaum is to be here. Yeah, I was like, ah, he's rolling.

We're in the right place. I botched it earlier myself. This must be the place. Yeah, four and a half hours of live radio and I wish I was a robot. That would solve a lot of my problems. Yeah. But no, there's, you know, we're getting stuff real time. We're, I think, air traffic control for a lot of stuff.

So sometimes it's just hard to keep track of it all. Let's go to Cooper and Lombard. Cooper, you're on, Rahimi, Harrison Grotie. Hey, what's going on? Thanks for taking my call. Shout out to you, Leila. We do Sky Games and cover. You've always been a real street.

I always appreciate your Cubs insider knowledge while we're doing Sky Games. But I wanted to talk about if the Bears and Ryan Pohl specifically cost themselves a fifth round pick by not doing this deal at the trade deadline. Now, I think it is a good deal for the Bears overall. I mean, DJ Moore's 29 years old. You're getting a second round pick back. I think it was confirmed earlier today, too, that the bills are going to guarantee his salary, that being DJ Moore for the next two years. By the end of the 2028 season, he's going to be the 13th highest paid wide receiver

with not that production, obviously. But I just, I'm still curious if you guys think it may have been a mismanagement and costing themselves a fifth round pick by not doing it sooner. Yeah, I see where you're at, Cooper. I appreciate you during Sky Games as well, and I'm pretty sure you were in our office a couple, like maybe a month ago or a couple weeks ago. So it's good to hear from you.

I also want to add this, though, is that I think you make the trade when you know you have to. There are times where, yes, the value may not be the same. But if the negligible value on that, the difference, the delta is a fifth rounder, would you like to have it? Yes. You know what I would like to have even more NFL? The compensatory pitch.

for Ian Cunningham getting a promotion. That's why he left. Yeah. And trading DJ Moore for a second round pick is really good. Excellent. Given the salary, excellent. And then you saw in turn what Buffalo plans to do. Already they are intending on guaranteeing part of his 2028 deal. So that is an indication that they wanted this to be a long-term commitment. I think also maybe there was the part of the Bears wanting to do right by DJ too.

Absolutely. I'm sure. That's a wonderful place to go if you're traded. Well, that was the part, I mean, Ryan Poles, like in the two-sided evaluation that he gave of DJ Moore, the big part of it was, what a great locker room guy this is, what a tough guy this is, what a professional this guy is. But, you know, the NFL is the NFL. So you knew that what Ryan Poles was saying was absolutely genuine.

And, yeah, that's what you do in multiple sports. You try to make the guy happy because you respect them. Yeah, and I feel like that that may be exactly what happened here. Because that was, you know, he traded Justin Fields to Pittsburgh. That was one of the places he wanted to go. Yeah, well, I think about... And people forget that part too. Different sport, but think about when the Cubs sell-off of all the 2016 players was going on.

Did not put many of those players in slouch positions at all. All went to contenders. You had Bryant going to San Francisco, Rizzo to the Yankees, Baez to the Mets. I mean, it was like that that is something that... I like to see that. Can't always work that way, but it's a nice common. courtesy if you can do it. Craig Kimbrel stayed in town. And from what we understand at the time,

that was important to him as well. That's right. And there is, there is an element of trying to do right by your guys. So Cooper, thank you for the call. We'll continue. 312, 644, 67, 67. I think it's Tagan. Is that right? Teggs. What up, Tegs? Hi, Tegin. Yep. Hi. I just wanted to call and give D.J. Morris Flowers, because for the most part, I really feel like, as someone who grew up watching the Bears since 2017, having to deal with the Kendall Rice, the Joshua Bellamy, and even some guys like Nekeel Harry, having a DJ Moore in this, it feels so nice. But I also wanted to say this, too, about Max Trotsby. I know a lot of people are saying, you know, we could get him now, but remember when we got Cleo Max, that was like a couple of weeks before the season. Now, I'm not

thing that we're going to get him at that point. But I do think that people are forgetting, too, that you could also just get all these good players now, trade the players that you know you can get value out of now, and then come next year when you have a fresh slate of picks, you could just get Max Crosby for cheaper. Maybe the Raiders are so going to be asking that ridiculous price of two first round picks. But, you know, at the end of the day, you could still get them by that point. I think those are all fair points. And to mention Nikiel Harry, that was not the name I expected to hear today.

But I think it is fair. He was, he had officially been out of my brain. And now he is back in my brain. He had dropped out. He didn't make the cut in my brain. Nikil Harry and Byron Pringle didn't do anything for you. Well, it was DJ Moore and then. I did like, I did have some really wild conversations with Byron Pringle.

Unfortunately, they were not on, on microphone. Wait, what were they? Byron, I'm not even going to say because I don't want to get stuff wrong, but he just gave me a mouthful one day. It was absolutely delightful, but I can't remember specifics enough and I don't want to do him wrong. Get Byron Bringle on the phone. But Josh Bellamy, that name was brought up. Interesting character in the locker.

I think I was only there for one year when he was with the Bears. Josh Bellamy got popped by the feds. Yes. For the small business loan fraud, I tell you. Wasn't his, you're going to jail, George Bailey. Wasn't his company called Drip Incorporated LLC? Yeah. Let's see, Bellamy was arrested and charged for his alleged participation in a scheme to file fraudulent loan applications worth over 24 million via the Paycheck Protection Program.

How dare you? He was convicted and sentenced to 37 months in a federal prison on December 10, 2021. He is among the most. most well-known people convicted of loan fraud. Hold on. Didn't he also wear a shirt of himself one time? He was his company or something like that. No, no, no, not Drip Incorporated LLC.

Didn't Josh Bellamy wear a Josh Bellamy shirt once? I mean, I don't remember that, but that sounds like on brand for one Josh Bellamy. It's funny, we always do the quarterback list in our bears lives of all the bad quarterbacks and all that kind of stuff. There's a pretty good wide receiver list, too. There's a pretty good receiver list. Sam Hurd. Sam Hurd. Also busted by the feds?

He's the real weed man. I don't think it was weed. Well, there was weed as well. Oh, he was a one-stop shop. You go back to the report. There was lots and lots of weed involved too, but there was the higher up as well. Sam Hurd had the trench coat open it up. I got what you need.

So thanks to Tagan for leading us down this circuitous path. Of Bears receivers. Now I'm really curious about what you guys talked about. You and Byron Bringle. I'm trying to jog my memory. If I can actually come up with it lucently, I'll share. Was it about, wasn't Byron Pringle the guy who was driving recklessly with his child? He was doing donuts, I believe. That was the genesis of the conversation we were having. Who was the receiver busted by the feds? Who is the receiver in the drug ring? Who is the receiver who was doing donuts in the parking lot?

With the kid in the car. Yeah, we got, I would say, I did that, by no means. Did the kids stop crying though? I don't know. You know, that's what I wonder. Was this an attempt to get his kid or to stop crying? Basically, the, because I'm not going to be able to come up with the specifics, but the genesis of the conversation was about that and him kind of being embittered

by other people who had gotten away with things and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but I don't want to, I don't want to get all Pringle here today. That's Pringle. Once you pop, you can't stop. You know what I'm saying? If I start talking about Byron Pringle, I'll go on for hours. I kind of am here for this, actually. But I like Byron Pringle.

I think he got a bad rap. I don't know if he got a bad rap or not, but I had a nice relationship with him. There it is. Lawrence Holmes and Matt Spiegel will continue this DJ more trade reaction. Maybe not the other receivers talk. No Josh Bellamy talk or Nikiel Harry. I just need to know.

I just need to know if Josh Bellamy wore a shirt of himself. What's your Mount Rushmore of Bears receivers with rap sheets? I want to know which Bears wide receiver just dropped out of my brain now that Nikiel Harry is back in. Is it Anthony Miller? It's a Lovinaezycheos. It's a Lovinae. They'll be,

Spiegel and Holes will be joined by Dave Wonstead at three. So Coach Wonstadt is coming on. James Palmer, the NFL reporter extraordinaire friend of our shows. Our show. That's right, Leila. I've known James Palmer a long time. Oh, yeah? He and I work together in Houston.

Well, well, well. Anthony Heron at 5 o'clock as well. So Big Ant is coming on. Tune in to Spiegel and Holmes from 2 to 6. Right here on the score. We are live. We are local. And we're here for you.

Watch life on YouTube and on Twitch. I think we've got to keep the calls going because people have been on hold for a while. And I don't really like it when people get on hold and that they don't get their voice heard. You could like that, Leila. I don't like it. You like to please the people. No, is that I'm not going to do the thing that I do. You know, I'm not going to like.

If you want to be heard, well, guess what? So did I. Just made a job out of it. But that doesn't mean you don't get hurt. That means everybody gets hurt. The good news for the people that are on hold, they don't have to hear hold music. They get to hear us. Could be good. Could be bad.

I'd like to think that's pretty cool. All right, 312, 644, 67, you get our last segment because you've hung with us. Rahimi and Holmes. Rehmi and Holmes. I dare you. Sorry, Spiegel and Holmes promos in my head. Plus Lawrence is like standing right outside. He is on the score.

Rahimi Harris and Grotie. Midday's 10 to 2. on 1043 The Score. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie at 1043 The Score. We've had a lot of callers reacting to the DJ Moore News, and I said, you know what? I get a microphone, so do you. 312, 644, 67, 67.

We go to Alex in Wheaton. Alex, you're on Rahimi Harrison Grotie. How's it going, guys? How are you? We're good. How are you? You know what? This morning when I saw the trade news,

I knew it was coming, but there's a couple things I want to say, to make my piece with the DJ Moore's situation and everything that's happened. When DJ Moore was first traded to the Chicago Bears a couple years ago with the first overall pick situation, I was delighted. I'm young. I'm only 22. I'm a first-time caller, but I'm a longtime Bears fan.

There is nothing in my life that would make me more happier for the Chicago Bears to go win a Super Bowl. And I think we need Max Crosby to do it. I've been following this team for, so long. And when we had Kaleo Mack, that was the best our defense has looked since 2006 and I was only three. Appreciate you making your first call here, man.

Yeah, welcome to being a caller. Now you have to do this more often. And I don't want to ask you what your feelings were at the time, because you may not have remembered them, but you understand the importance of a good pass rush is what it sounds like to me, Alex. Yeah, man. Absolutely.

Watching the 2018 playoff game at the Wildcard against the Eagles. I remember sitting in my living room and I'm watching it happen and the only thing I could think about is every day. That was my freshman year of high school. Every single day, every single day, it was Chicago Bears News, whatever. I listened to your guys'

show. I listen to the NFL podcast. I listen to it all. And the only thing I could think about was if we win this game and beat the Eagles, we're going to the Super Bowl. It didn't happen. Cody Park, you ruined that for us. What are you going to do? I'm sorry, man. I don't want to ruin your dreams, but the Saints and Rams game was a wild game.

So if you feel like going back and looking at it, that may also ease your pain a little bit. So just want to throw that out there. Alex, thanks for calling for the first time. Yeah, Alex. Yeah, thanks guys. I appreciate it. Thank you and welcome.

The only penalty I'm going to give Alex is that he's from Wheaton, which made me think of another bear's bust of a wide receiver. That'd be Marcus Wheaton. So Marcus Wheaton has replaced Nikiel Harry in my brain. Now, he had dropped out. He's back in. So was Marcus Wheaton. Oh, and I mentioned to Layla during the break.

Kevin White. And then there was Chase Claypool. The list is expanding. Chase Claypool. I mean, like, I thought Chase Claypool. Chase, I'm in France and on the Pupp list, Claypool. I bought it into that. Chase Fashion Week Claypool.

About Roy Williams when he was with the Bears. I got an name for you that's on the line right now. It's a special caller. We're going to go to Joe Madden. Go ahead, Joe. Oh, yeah? Joe Madden's calling in with his thoughts. How are we doing today?

Joe? His name's Joe Madden. Joe from Milwaukee. Your name is Joe Madden? Yeah, spelled a little different, but. All right. Well, congratulations on your Joe Maddenness. Amazing.

I mean, Andrew in Milwaukee, this is, oh, man, when he was the manager of the Cubs, that must have affected you. Yeah, I did. I was like around 15 at the time, but still, people would comment on it. Fair enough. I got all the youths calling us today. I know. What do you think about the news?

Yeah. I think, I mean, I keep seeing post, say we won the trade. My thought process now is, are we putting this burden on Jada Walker to kind of step it up or maybe bringing Mooney in? Oh, Darnell Mooney. Interesting. I like the darnall Mooney idea. I didn't mean to laugh at Jada Walker. Yeah, Darnel Mooney.

Ben Johnson said he wants people to catch the ball. Yeah, well, Darnel Mooney was, he had some productive years. Like, I don't think he's a, like at this point, you're not going to be able to bring in somebody who is premium. So you have to think probably like that would be my guess. And Darnell Mooney's not a bad receiver. You think he's a bad receiver? I just think he got overvalued because of his draft pick with the Bears here. You know his fifth round and remember George McCasky bringing him up by name.

And there was a time where when he was with the Falcons at one point during the season. And I think it was late into the year. He was leading the league in plus 20-yard receptions. So they had an intent, and that was a Ryan Pace move, I think, on how they wanted to use him in Atlanta. I think you're on to something, though, Joe Madden with the Jada Walker. I think Jada Walker may have earned some stars in the latter part of the season there for the Bears. Maybe, yeah, but it's not exactly the name I think of when I think, yeah, who's going to be the next productive depth piece on the bears. Maybe, but that's not where my brain's going.

Okay, so let's, well, we can't, we don't have time. I was going to say we could game it out and say like, okay, well, who are you throwing two on first down? Who are you throwing two on second down? Who's your guy to get the yak or rack or the first down catch if you're in a third and three or four situation? Lucky for us, we do a show five days. Well, you do a show five days a week. You're welcome any time. It's just we thought you should have some time off after football season.

No, I'm embracing it. I am absolutely embracing it. Here you are doing all this extra research. Yeah. We had a whole show. show planned. We did. We did, but that's okay.

Some of the stuff that we did, I can tell me, but the work I did was like in the draft, like defensive linemen and defensive ends drafted in the 20s, the Bears picket 25. 773 says, don't forget about Javon Wims. That's another great one.

That's a great one. I think we'd need to do the segment, just like all the Bears receivers who disappointed you. We've named a bunch of them already today. Like the like the quarterback. list is overrated, man. I'm telling you. I don't think I need to be a federal

prosecutor because if I were in the courtroom when Josh Bellamy got busted for paycheck loan fraud, I would have probably been like, and he wore a shirt of himself, which your honor may be a greater crime. What do you wore it to court? Valis Jones Jr. of course.

Good tax. Yeah. And he puts Valis Jones Jr., anybody. Dot, dot, dot. Yeah. Yeah. He should have been right. Farid owner. Farid owner of Valis Jones Jr. I do, I do love a good name the player segment. Like just name. I love a re-look at a draft segment, you know,

where you're just looking at like the 2015 first draft. Yeah, you brought that up in the meeting today. Oh, I love it. And then I love like a name the player segment. I think that that's a lot of fun. Yeah, so I won't get to talk about Felix NUDK Uzella today, who the Chiefs picked with the 31st pick in the 2020-3 draft and now has three sacks in two years.

But we could put these things off for another show. Yes, we could. Yes. Because that's what happened. You see what you could have gotten, folks? Also, there's just some basic good questions on the text land, like one that said, why do you expect the bears to be better when they traded away their best receiver? That is a fair question.

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