Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - Full Show — October 6, 2026

Episode Date: October 6, 2026

Leila Rahimi and Mark Grote reacted to the White Sox's comeback 4-3 win against the Guardians on Monday to take a commanding 2-0 lead in their American League Division Series. They also welcomed on Bears defensive tackle Neville Gallimore to discuss the team's rivalry with the Packers.

How we doing, everybody? It's Rahimi and Grotie on 104-3 to score. There should have been some celebration after yesterday. I spent it watching the post-game show, but it was a fun day. Wasn't that enough celebratory for you to have watched the White Sox game and then watch the post-game show? I got to tell you, our guy, Anthony Kay, my guy. After a bit of an outing for him where he saw a few batters, I was like, well, maybe he's, this isn't the day. And then guess who showed up? Situational hitting. And Sean Burke. That too.

And Grant Taylor and the rest of the socks. They're amazing as we do welcome you into the program officially. It is the Rahimi and Grotie show on 104.3. The score. We're open. The texts are coming in. We're always refreshing. 312, 644, 67, 67. The White Sox beat the Guardians yesterday, four to three to go up 2 in this best of five American League Division series. And for people who can't see us right now. Layla just gave the perfect reaction to hearing what the words I was saying, and that's just the slow shake of the head. It's amazing what the White Sox have done in this postseason. And it's also amazing that when we look at how they are doing it, Leila, and it's this weird fine line between progressive thinking in a baseball organization, maybe

the future of baseball, the way the pitching staff is being used, and the bullpen is, being used and the fine line. The other part is, all the socks just don't have starters that they can put out there to begin games and they're doing what they have to do. So it's desperate versus meets progressive. Does that make sense at all? Oh, yeah, because it challenges group thinking baseball enough, but then they also have a lineup that's good enough to hit their way out of it.

And that is my point in all of this too is, I think of the basketball phrase, making your shots covers up a multitude of sins. when you hit your way out of a lot of jams, guess what happens? You win ball games. And we see it again yesterday. I mean, just again, the White Sox have good two strike approaches. They have two out approaches. You know, there's two out hitting on this team.

Like, I'm not complaining about the runners in scoring position number with this team. Because you've got guys like your number nine batter coming through in clutch times. You know, Braden Montgomery with the double, you know, that ends up taking the lead at three to two. There were two players there in scoring position, and both of them ultimately end up scoring because of Chase Midroth with the single, and then he advances. So, I mean, I just can't say enough about how their lineup day in and day out will score run. Chase Midroth. She's so good. And then previously, you know, Colson Montgomery doing what he did, like in both the Houston series and this one, like you can count on your six, seven, eight, nine

hitters to do some things. And that's what's made this equally so impressive to me. Yeah, the pitching is terrifying. But you at least know you've got a lineup that any spot in that lineup, you can get a situational hit that can help you win you a ballgame. And that was as good of an example as any. Right. And I don't even like when people are like, who are they going to start. I don't know. I don't know who they're going to start. I kind of don't care who they're going to start. Because you know that whoever starts, there's going to be somebody coming in shortly thereafter. and you don't know who the hero in that pitching staff is going to be yesterday. It was a couple of guys.

Sean Burke, five and a third, one run, one hit. He retired 13 in a row at one point. And I was worried about Sean Burke. That's why none of this is predictable. Sean Burke, the last time we saw him pitching against the Astros was a dud. He gave up three home runs. And going beyond their career innings, too, that's another factor. All these pitchers for the White Sox are in no man.

lands land right now. So that's why you can't predict what Sean Burke is going to do. I didn't think he was going to retire 13 in a row yesterday. He gets pulled with two outs in the eighth inning for Grant Taylor, who did allow a scary triple. And he was getting there. There was some hard hit balls against Grant Taylor yesterday. The Joe Adel's, what was that, three or four inches away from being a tie ball game ball? I thought it was tied up. Yeah. I mean, the perimeter rules would dictate if you didn't know them well in Cleveland at that point, you're, you're, you're, you're. you're going, is that considered a home run in a way? But because of where it hit on the wall. Or it was just me being extra stressed. But they survived that as well. And that's the point. But again, my draught helps get them to four to two.

You know, you get the insurance with two outs from these guys. Yes. And that is just so incredible to me. And then there's the part where I'm stressed after watching Anthony Kay and then seeing what happened with the error by, you know, part one of the show. Sean's being Newcomb coming in. Newcomb, that was a bad moment. And listen to Will Vettable and how calm he is early in the game.

When Lauren Jabara is asking you the same thing that we're all asking, like, do you have enough pitching? Well, you went to your bullpen early. How does that change how you deploy arms the rest of this game? Yeah, you know, really the plan coming in as we evaluate their lineup was going to be K plus nuke to get through DeLada the second time. So we're still in a good spot. Nader.

They were in a good spot. Well, and he had made Will Venable, and I wonder how White Sox fans felt about this. I didn't really do the deep dive on White Sox Twitter yesterday on Will Venable because people are always quick to go after him. But that was in the first inning, Guardian scored two off of Sean Newcomb on the chopper. One run is legit. Bad throw allows another run to score. Throws the ball away. But in that spot, when he comes into the game, Adele is at the plate.

Ball won, and Will Venable says, you know what, I'm going to go ahead and walk these bases loaded. Right. And you're like, hmm, because Adele had like struck out four times in the preview. Like, he's been a strikeout or nothing guy. But then even in the series that they had in the regular season, the last regular season series they had, I was like, oh, that's why they traded for that guy. Yeah. Like you knew he could, he had a good September, you know, Joe Dell did.

Yeah, no, no doubt he did. So he walks him with the bases loaded, and then Lowe comes up and then does the damage. I mean, it was not like to defend Nukham a little bit. That's a chopper. It's not a hard hit ball, any of that stuff. But he made a terrible throw in that spot, did Newcomb. So that's a scary moment. But I kind of felt Will Vina Boll.

Cleveland does not look scary at all. Like this is, and I said this in our pre-show meeting, and maybe I shouldn't even bring it to the air. but I will. I'm not even worried. I hope the White Sox win tomorrow. I really do because they'd be partying like it was 1906. The last time the White Sox clinch a playoff series at home, and it would be great because it's going to be a blackout game.

The White Sox are going to win this series. Cleveland just looks like a dead team right now, and that's not to take any credit away from the White Sox because they look really good and really smart and really timely and really clutch with some of the performances that they're getting. Cleveland kind of sucks right now. I think that they're like at a bad, they're in a bad place right now at the wrong time, kind of like the Cubs at the end of the season, like good team, good organization that looks

like they're done. I just can't, I can't be that confident in counting them out, even with the White Sox, clearly flipping home field. And I felt really good after the first game. But then to take the second game there and to do it against the guy who had the second most strikeouts in baseball and Gavin Williams, like that's another part of this. only Jacob Mizorowski had more strikeouts in the regular season. So you got through what I think are there,

their two horses, right? In Messick and Williams. Great point. With rest. Yeah. With rest. But even then, even then, I'm just still so, like, I had to triple check. I had to triple check.

I was like, that's not right. It can't be 120 years. Like, I know it is. But then I, like, it's just one of those where your brain is psyching you out, even though you know the numbers. Yeah. And then you're trying to absorb it. So that's still where I am with all of this.

Gavin Williams, by the way, to your point, the White Sox won the game where the opposing team starter had 11 strikeouts in the game. So, like, Cleveland is throwing everything they possibly can at the White Sox and the socks are just like, get out of here. Real quick here, speaking of that. I like the text. Get to the choppa. I mean, that's how you feed. Yes, get out of there before they change the score on you. Go.

Get out. Exactly. There's no doubt. And the texture to Grody. Get your ice cream. and then go. Grotie, you weren't at Journey last night? It was a badass concert.

Yeah, isn't that awesome journey at the United Center last night? Don't stop believing vibes out at the UC. Incredible. No Steve Perry, though. And I have seen that version of Journey, by the way. I thought they did have Steve Perry back. I don't think he's back. Am I missing it?

Did Steve Perry slide back in? I don't think so. We can only keep up with so much. Yeah, little Steve. And they were having fun with it appropriately. Chuck and Ozzie were having fun with it on the post game show. Yeah, because they do the show from the United Center. And then of course

Don't Stop Believe in was the theme. So I can't say I'm Even that feels special. The Don't Stop Believe in like when you hear the song. Well, just that journey was playing that night. Oh, no, no doubt. No, I love that. That was great.

I mean, no, by the way, no Steve Perry. Okay, no Steve Perry. Yeah, I didn't think so. Yeah. I had heard that maybe he was back with them or something. There were rumors. Okay, that's what it was. And then he came out and denied the rumors.

Oh, so I didn't hear the follow up to the rumor. that's why you are who you are, Ray Diaz. The guy that does it. The lead singer is pretty good, though. I mean, I guess you better be pretty good and sound enough like Steve Perry if you're going to replace Steve Perry because Steve Perry is thought of he is your favorite lead singer, favorite lead singer in a lot of cases. Like people like rock stars.

Has an incredible octave range. Oh, yeah. Like you can say what you want to say about Journey. There's a little cheese in Journey. There's a little cheese. There's no doubt about it. But that man right. there is one of the best, one of the greatest lead singers of all time. So if you went to the

UC last night, I hope you enjoyed yourself. Yeah, we have a couple of people who did on our text line, so that's good to know. And then we also have people who I agree with, 224. Also, don't jinx this, Grody. We've seen the Guardians devil magic before. Exactly. I hear you. Exactly 224. I ain't counting anybody out. I'm not going to be afraid to say it. I know what I'm seeing with Cleveland. And I just, I hope the White So I'm out tomorrow. So we didn't have. Finish him. That's right. Yeah, take him out. Take him out. Sweep the leg. Do what you have to do. Let's keep this party cooking. We got a White Sox party going on here in our studios today. I don't feel comfortable saying that even.

Really? I don't want to mess with the fates, okay? Well, you can feel good. We're not going to come in here and be droopy about the White Sox. I don't know if I can call it a party yet. Okay. I'm party and Layla's not. We'll see maybe Russ Dorsey can be the mood decider. How about that? Yeah, he can be the deciding vote, the tiebreaker. My little party, your realism going on. I don't know how you guys feel. I'm just, I can't like verbalize everything.

Can I tell you how I feel about this? Because maybe you feel the same way, Grotty. Don't use the P word. I'm already. No, where you're on the street. Hey, I want some party. Whoa, no, I'm talking about the one that's like, you know. Not that word.

No, like where you're on the street and then everybody walks in a line and, you know, there's, don't use that word. Okay. Oh, okay. It rhymes with limits. Got you. Ray? Oh, yeah, quickly how I feel about it is. I'm happy for the White Sox, but I'm a Cubs fan, so I feel like I can enjoy this without all the pressure of like, my favorite team is in this.

I feel like, you know, like I would be kind of dreading if the Cubs are in this position. Like, oh, man, it's going to fall apart at any minute. But I'm kind of just like, because I'm just enjoying this. And I do want the White Sox to keep going. And I'm like, nobody move. Everybody stand right where you are. And that's how I would feel. That's how I would feel a thing with the Cubs.

You can't change clothes. Like, I don't need to change in anything. I don't think it's to the level of Patrick Mahomes. Definitely change skivies. But, like, and brush your teeth. But elsewhere, other than that, I'm like, nobody move. Everybody wrap yourselves in bubble wrap right now. I cracked open a new container of Old Spice today.

I went with, I know I was going with the bear glove. No bear glove this time. I went with swagger. That's why I'm sounding a certain way today. Go back to bear glove. Go back to bear glove right now. Brody, that's my favorite one. Swagger.

Oh, you go swagger? That's right. It was a quick decision. I went to CVS. I took a late night CBS walk. I was like, I got to get, you know what? I saw the swagger. Sports walk.

That's what it was. It was a post sports walk. Old Spice keeps sending me, their PR team keeps sending me like influencer emails, asking how I incorporate Old Spice into my game day routine. And I'm like, well, I'm a woman. A woman. So I don't. But I do talk a lot about bear glove.

That's true. Because I did. I was a bear glove guy until. I was a swagger guy, but if you think I need to get bear glove again, I won't purchase some bear glove. Nobody move. Tell you what, let's get to Russ. We got to get to Russ Dorsey. Get his deodorant sense.

And I know your dad's not moving because Ricky will not kill the vibe. I bet Russ. Russ smells good. He probably has designer deodorant. It would be my guess. He probably gets his online from a special place. That's my guess about Russ Dorsey. We'll find out next.

We're going to continue to talk about the White Sox next with our guy, Russ Dorsey. This is absolutely Rehemi and Grotia. on 104 3 the score. I am marinated in Marri-Glove. Heck yeah, it's Rahimi and Grody on 104-3. The score Russ Dorsey will be at the rate for the big game. Tomorrow, White Sox and Guardians game three and a best of five, which of the White Sox lead two to nothing as we speak.

This segment is being brought to you by almost free teat.com. Save on dental implants today. And Russ is joining us on our video stream to watch, search the score Chicago on Twitch and YouTube. Russ Dorsey, what's going on, man? What's going on, guys? How are we feeling? We're feeling pretty good. I will try to characterize it properly.

I feel like partying with the White Sox because I don't think they can be stopped in this particular series against that particular team. Layla's taking a few deep breaths, trying to be realistic about things. Where do you stand on it? Because I just don't think the White Sox are going to be stopped against the Guardians in this series.

I don't think anybody cares what I think right now grows. I want to hear why Layla, does she not think? that the socks can be stopped? It's just that I come on Russ. They got their first playoff win in Houston since 2005. Then they get their first playoff series win since 2005.

Now they have the chance to do something at home that they haven't done in 120 years. I just don't. You know, I think about the Rick Honline that got used against him in the last version of the rebuild. And I just, you know, I just

really, I just don't want to be overconfident here. And I feel like every time I assume Cleveland is out of something, they're not. Jose Ramirez exists to me. And while I am happy to see what happened in the first two games, I just, uh, exactly. See, I don't like tempting face. Russ. I just don't like doing it.

Here's my thing, Leela. I hear you talking from like a place of trauma been hurt before in White Sox history. And you can't live life that way. It's not even white. It's just my own baseball life. Like it goes back to other issues like 2011 World Series. Let's work on this then.

No. This isn't about me. That's the point. Where about you heard? Show me on the doll where you were here now. I was heard of the baseballs. You can't go from year to year thinking about well, this happened this one time and then this happened.

If I'm watching if I'm going off of this series, which every series is its own thing, the Chicago White Sox have proven through the first two games of a five game series, they are a better team than the Cleveland Guardians. They've pitched better. They've come up with big hits more. You talk about Jose Ramirez. That is not Jose Ramirez playing for the Cleveland Guardians right now.

Like that is somebody completely different. Tim Anderson would kick his ass. You know, Tim Anderson is I'm not going to say all that. I'm not going to say all that. Steve, you have a line too. What I will say is Jose Ramirez is a perennial MVP candidate that when he comes up in a big moment, he strikes fear into you. That's not the Jose Ramirez that we're seeing right now.

And I don't know, I know he had the handmade bone injury early. I know what that injury does to a player, saps the power, takes a long time for that thing to regain the strength. I don't know if that's still bothering him, but he does not look like that same guy right now. I have no confidence that anybody in that Cleveland Guardians line up outside of maybe Chase DeLauder, Travis Bazaana, if he gets a hold of something, can really do damage.

And maybe last night you see a couple of balls that they hit deep to left center field on a night that's not chilly. Maybe those balls hit the wall or go out in different circumstances. But in the circumstances that the White Sox had, they didn't. And I think the White Sox should be given a lot of credit for the way that they've played through the first two games of the series and through this entire postseason. And I think I looked at them going into the posing and said, well, they don't do this well. They don't have pitching. I don't know if this bullpenning thing worked. and they say, you know what, Russ, take all those opinions and shove it.

And so I'm done counting out the Chicago White Sox, especially in the series. If you go into the next series and you move on past Cleveland and you play the Tampa Bay Race, fine. That's a really good baseball team that's doing a lot of things well right now. But until then, I believe in the Chicago White Sox that they can get this thing done. I think I knew. I think maybe the moment I knew in this series was game one when Anthony K comes in the 4th. inning and Brian Rochio comes up in a big spot and they get him to line out because he's just, he has crushed souls this year against a lot of teams. So I kind of knew it at that moment.

But Russ Dorsey, I do want to ask you about what has been the Grant Taylor experience in this postseason. He does it again yesterday. What do you thought about him and what do you think about how long this can last, however much longer the White Sox are a part of this with Grant Taylor? And really, Russ, a lot of these pictures in no man's land, in terms of the demand that has been put on their arms relative to their past, which is usually very small for these guys because they're all young. Yeah, you're running off of adrenaline right now, Groton. When you get to this time of year, a lot of guys are.

Guys are banged up. Guys have met their innings limits or limitations or where they were at career highs. None of that matters in October. You're going to take the baseball and you're going to throw it. And I look at Grant Taylor and I see a guy that with every outing, it appears that he is gaining more and more confidence. And I think that's something that is a great thing for the Chicago White Sox. Overall, when I look at how the White Sox have had to put the puzzle pieces in place of how they have tried to optimize their bullpen right now,

Will Venables done a great job in terms of what matchups work for that moment, right? Going from, you know, Anthony Kay to, you know, what Sean Burke did. I want to say something. Sean Burke had the best outing I've seen him have in maybe eight weeks. Like that's the Sean Burke that we saw in June and July when he was one of the best pitchers in the American League. If you get that version of Sean Burke, you feel really good if you're Chicago White Sox. And if you move on to the ALCS, he's going to have to like make an actual start,

not this tandem start thing. And you feel really good if that guy that you saw in the back half of that game can give you five innings. But I think for the White Sox, when you look at what they've been able to do, things have fallen into place. And look, Gavin Williams was phenomenal yesterday. And yet the White Sox were like, Gavin Williams, that was a really good start. We have our bullpen game and you can't stop it. And it worked.

You are right about that. If there was ever truth to the whole pockets of the order and pockets of the game, that seems to be Will Vennible managing this for us pretty free and easy. We just talked about the comments he made during the game to Lauren Jabbar, the sideline reporter for TBS, who asked him about what had happened after the Anthony K outing and then Newcomb comes on and he was calm and he said this was the plan and the plan yet again worked. And that's, I think, I don't know how many times we sit here and go, I don't know if it's going to work this time. And then it's continued to do so. Hey, you look like a genius when it works and that's what Will Vinnable looks like right now.

Like until one of those guys has a blow up, it won't matter. And as long as the White Sox are winning games and popping champagne, it won't matter. And so I look at them going into game three in front of a crowd that has been waiting for a big moment. That is wait, that no now. If the socks were trailing, it would still be crazy. If it was a one one series, it would still be crazy. Being up two to nothing and having a playoff game in your home ballpark to clinch a spot in the ALCS for the first. time since 2005. That place is going to be nuts tomorrow. And I'm really excited to see how things

unfold. All right. So let's look ahead to that. And I feel like this is like the hardest question I can possibly ask. Who will be, who will throw the first pitch for the White Sox in the actual game? I'm not talking about the ceremonial stuff. Who starts? Who starts? Who starts, man? I mean, like, where's Davis Martin been? Does he, does he get a, does he get an inning or two? Like, it's, it's just every, Everybody and anybody is on the table. What do you think? How do you think they line up the pitching for that game tomorrow? That's a good question.

It's the hardest question there is right now. Because it could be anybody. Because you're up to nothing, does that change how you go about it? Right? Because it's not nuke him anymore. Yeah. Because he did it yesterday. Like, do you go.

Hagan Smith? Do you go back to Hagen Smith? Maybe. I would. Yeah. Especially with a two nothing. he's your best at this opener thing. And if he can give you two plus innings,

you probably feel really good about the back half of the game, especially because the socks have had the advantageous schedule where you have game off day, game, off day game. And so your bullpen is probably more rested than it would normally be in a five or seven game series. So I don't see a problem with going back to Hagen Smith if you're the Chicago White Sox. Some Eric Fetty,

a dash of Eric Fetty in there. We just heard a dash of a little sprinkle of Eric Fetty. I think Anthony K gets a day off. You're in charge of Anthony K. Anthony K probably gets a day off. You're not going to see Sean Burke. So those are two. Uh-huh.

Grant Taylor. Last time we saw Davis Martin. When was it? That's a great question. It has been a little while. Yeah. So maybe he's your bulk guy. Maybe unless they've lost trust in him.

I can't see him. not getting into the mix. Because if you're trying to look ahead, if you're the White Sox, if you win and then you move on, you're going to have to have guys lined up to make actual starts. Because the bullpen thing works in a three and five inches. But in a seven game series, you actually need guys to make real starts.

And so, you know what I mean? Well, and that's why what we saw from Sean Burke was so important yesterday. And who knows how that changes the trajectory if he doesn't come in as a bullpen guy or his mental, like the way he's processing it. But to your point, Russ, to see Sean Burke, as you said, pitch as well as he did in the last eight weeks and looking a little bit like he did in June and July, that could portend well if the White Sox do indeed make it to the next round. Because like in a seven game series, like if we're just going to say, all right, socks move on, K and Burke would likely make a actual start in a seven game series. Wow, right? Maybe Davis Martin makes a start. Now, you could still do the tandem thing with, all right, Eric Fetty follows at one of those guys. Maybe he follows multiple guys.

But you're going to have to pick and choose who makes a bulk start for you or takes the bulk of the innings. But yeah, as far as tomorrow, I know we're getting ahead of ourselves. I'm like, all right, if you move on, you get in trouble doing that. And we can do that as pundits. But for the White Sox, you have to win that. that day's game. You start thinking about, well, tomorrow we can do this and then the next day. That's how you mess around and now it's game five in Cleveland. And then you're just like, oh, we messed up. But I think the White Sox are in a fantastic position.

You've afforded yourself the opportunity to play the hand that's in front of you and it's a pretty good hand. Well, and David Sandlund is another. I mean, he's on the ALDS roster. That's another option. He and Davis Martin both are. So I have to think that somehow, some way those two are getting into the mix and either tomorrow's game or the No Schultz is no one. No Schultz. Yeah, man. It's like and it's all been working. Our Russ, the most important question,

we do we have to let you go. What kind of deodorant do you use? Oh, that's not where I thought that question was going at all. Yeah, no, that's where it's going because I made this with the old spice switch. I went from Bear Glove to Old Spice Swagger and people are imploring me to go back to Bear Glove because somehow that's like better luck, I guess.

People is me. I told him not to change. Yeah, yeah, she's don't go changing. I said that you might have designer deodorant for Russ Dorsey. I'm a dove men's care guy. Okay, all right. Smells really good. Yeah. I think my two-and-one shampoo conditioner, I believe, is dove.

So, yeah. Oh, by the way, gross. If that's what you do, you should stop doing that. Oh, really? An actual shampoo and an actual conditioner. Okay. I'll use two-and-ones. Okay.

I hear you. All right, I will. I guess I need to make another stop. at CBS on my walk home today. Yeah, I love CBS. I'm going to have to put like a little, little Russ men's care package for you. I love this.

I appreciate it. Russ, you're the best, man. Enjoy, enjoy the rate. We look forward to talking to you next time. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Russ. We appreciate that. That is the great Russ Dorsey,

MLV insider for Yahoo. He's on Apple. He is the host of the Relay with Russ Dorsey podcast. That's available on YouTube. or wherever you get your podcast. Always great to hear from Russ Dorsey. Coming up next, what will Bears running back

DeAndre Swift's role be going forward? It's crazy we're asking that question. When we return, we will give you the why on Rahimi and Grody on 104. It is Raheemian Grody on 104. The score. There has been a little bit of a mystery going on with the Chicago Bears.

And it's not Kyler Gordon. It's DeAndre Swift to fumbled the other day and didn't really see him much in the second half of that Bears win over the New York Jets. And it left a lot of people wondering was DeAndre Swift benched in the game? And Ben Johnson didn't really commit to that language after the game, only to say that it didn't have anything to do with an injury. So I thought we got a little bit more clarification. And I want to play this for everybody from yesterday's Zoom with Ben. Johnson. He met with the media yesterday. It was asked this question by Weedman. Dan Weederer regarding DeAndre Swift. Ben, on the Swift fumble, small picture lens, what was your kind of vantage

point on where that occurred and how it occurred? And then big picture, how do you communicate with him in terms of how he regains kind of opportunity? Yeah. I think, I think small picture lens like you're talking about. It was one of those things that we felt a lot of confidence, just how we're moving the ball throughout that day, that that was really what was going to hold us back as if we shout ourselves in the foot. And so we can't have it. Everybody on the team knows that. And it certainly is a, it's a little bit of a buzzkill when you have a low momentum going. It feels like we're moving the football, second down, I believe it was, and we're going to make it third manageable.

And, you know, it's just, like I said, it's a credit to our defense being able to step in and stop the bleeding in a lot of ways. You know, there's really no message that needs to be said to anybody. Nobody wants to put the ball on the ground. Nobody wants to turn it over. Nobody wants to drop the ball. You know, it's just we all have to have short memories. We've got to learn from it.

And coaches, players, all of us, we're going to do some things that we don't like at times. could be a bad play call on my end, could be a mistackle by our defense, you know, all those things. They happen, learn from it and move on. Will he have his same role going forward this week as he had last week? Once again, we'll see what it looks like throughout the week. Each role's determined through the week of practice. And that's the one that got me. Yeah, it's one thing to bring up everything in the way Ben Johnson did, which was reasonable and

understandable and he, of course, taking accountability the way he does even in that soundbite. But at the end of the day, that fumble was costly to D'Andre Swift. He did not get a carry after that fumble. Rocheon Johnson, who I thought was in the doghouse, suddenly reappeared on that drive. Yes, when it wasn't the Kyle Munungai show, it was Roshan Johnson spelling him for a successful run, as you mentioned. 11 yards is successfully moving the chains as we know. So that was the other part of this was, oh, suddenly somebody who I thought was not very valued has suddenly become valued in this equation. It is clear that there's an issue there of some kind.

For Ben Johnson to so readily give you the information of Tyson Bayton is who we're going with this week. I'm sorry. Then to turn around and in the other breath say, we're going to reeval, we're going to evaluate his role throughout the week. Ben Johnson, who you crappin is all I have to say about that. What are you talking about? He uses the language buzzkill.

He then said, it's no message being sent to anyone, even though he was benched. And then he says, we're not committing to anybody. It depends on who practices well this week. Just come out and say it because it's good. The standard is the standard, right? If you're not meeting the standard, even if you're DeAndre Swift, who had 124 yards and three touchdowns in his first game at Carolina, come out and say it, man. Who are you crapping, Ben Johnson? I've got nothing to add there.

I think you added a lot, actually. Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at it. It doesn't look any better when you read it on a piece of paper, by the way. Once again, we'll see what it looks like throughout the week. Each role is determined through the week of practice. Right, and he was sort of stumped by that, too. I mean, if he's really going with the no message sent and all of that kind of stuff, he would have been like DeAndre Swift is our number one running back,

the way Tyson Baygent, as he proclaimed, hey, he's the number two running back for a reason. Why couldn't you say that about DeAndre Swift? He's your number one running back for a reason who just got paid, Ben. So you honor the depth chart for one position on your offense, but the depth chart on another position on your offense is not as set. What did you do, DeAndre Swift? Is there more to this than we even know other than a little bit of regression? I mean, the first game was awesome for him in the Minnesota game,

16 carries, 45 yards, zero TDs, 2.8 yards per carry and the fumble, And the fumble. Which I do put a slight excuse there because of the crappy conditions and the ball was being... It was nasty out that day. It is not as easy to hold on to a football in the rain. No, it's not. So I will... Yeah, that has to be given right there.

The Philadelphia game, 20 carries, 84 yards, 0 TDs, 4.2 yards per average. But, I mean, like, I don't mind it. Like, I'm not mad the idea that Kyle Munn guy would get more of the carries or, hey, DeAndreusuf, you need to play better, but just come out and say it. Come out and say it. Coming up next, let's continue to talk about the Bears and Patrick Manley, who does a great job with his hits here on the score. He does an awesome job on the pre-impost game show, and he is a diligent watcher of film. So we will get his take on what he saw in this Bears game against the Jets, a closer look, and maybe we'll even look ahead to the Green Bay Packers with Patrick Manley as well,

who has had his fair share of Bears Packers games as well. It's all coming up. on Rahimi and Grody on 1043, The Score. It is Rahimi and Grody on 1043, The Score. Patrick Manatee, joining us on our video stream to watch, Search the Score, Chicago on Twitch and YouTube. Thanks to everybody for tuning in as we continue to talk about the Bears. 23 to 12 went over the Jets and look ahead to Bears and Packers this Sunday at noon at Lambeau Field. Patrick, how are you, sir?

I'm great. Beautiful sunny day. I got a tea time at 1240. I get to talk a little bears. we got the White Sox in the playoffs 2 and O, so Chicago's showing off right now. Oh, life is good. The way you just presented

all of that. I love it. We'll get you out of here soon so you can start to tune up. Oh, I got plenty of time. This is the most important thing of the day. I love it, man. We love it when you come down to break down the film and provide your insights like you do every week here on Rahimi and Grotie. I actually want to start on the defensive side

of the ball with you and a name that we were all talking about, you me and Olin, at Sports Corner the other day. We talked a lot about Devin Bush and needing more from Devin Bush, and then he provided a little bit more. Does he look better? I mean, I know obviously he had the sack, but in general, did Devin Bush look better on film to you?

Yes, and if you've listened to the pre-imposed game show, I have been hard on him, but I was talking to Olin about this. When I break down players, I try to say stuff that they're not hearing from a coach. I'm not trying to be too hard, be that, you know, fan of like, oh, you suck and all that kind of stuff. I just hadn't seen the play of what I was hoping to see.

And what I saw Sunday is what I was hoping to see. He played a very, very solid, I guess a good game. And Dennis Allen dialed up that blitz for him. He got the sack. He was very active as a word you kind of used for linebackers, always around the ball, getting through blocks, getting off blocks. I just thought overall he played a very safe. solid game. And if he could continue that the rest of the year, you know, the defense is going to

continue looking like they did on Sunday. He was a big part of why they looked so good against the Jets. Yeah, Patrick, what did you think was the most, I think it's the aspect of the defense that caused the most stifling of the Jets offense? Was it the linebacking play? Was it the line of scrimmage and just the defensive line doing a lot? Was it the secondary forcing everything to really be, to really be stopped on third down when they were 0 for seven. What stood out to you about how disruptive the Bears defense was to any aspect of the Jets game plan? Yeah, I think it's overall. I think kind of what we have on defense is what Ben Johnson is on offense. That he confuses, Ben Johnson confuses the defense with all the motions, the multiple sets, the multiple personnel and all that kind of stuff.

Where to me, Dennis Allen kind of does the same thing. An example of that is the delay of game. There was a delay of game the Jets had where they're sitting there. There's confusion between the guard and the center and the quarterback. They're trying to figure out points and they're rolling coverages. And the Jets aren't doing a whole bunch of motion on this play. It's just more the way the alignment of the defense is, it's just multiple all the time that they don't know where they're coming from. They're kind of confused.

There's been a couple times where, let's see if I can describe it on the radio, that maybe, say, 3D linemen are to the right of the center. And normally what you're going to do is stunt the two inside guys out, loop the outside guy all the way back in to the front side or backside A gap. And that's what you kind of feel like it's going to happen as an O lineman. Well, he does different things out of that set. So what I'm just seeing is just so many multiple fronts, so many multiple looks. And he's figuring out the players that he has and what they are good at and what they can and can't do.

And I think that's what I'm seeing from this defense that is just so multiple. And it's very similar to what Ben Johnson does on offense. And it's just confusing. and guys are doing what they're asked to do. I think, Grotie, we talked about it, and Roland talked about it, that offensively with all the motions and shifts and all that kind of stuff,

there were only four penalties in the game, and that's amazing that that happens that way because there's a lot that goes into it. There's a lot of details that go into it. Well, defensively, it's the same thing. If you're going to have that many multiple fronts, line guys up, you know, Devin Bush on the line of scrimmage to the, you know,

sitting at the linebacker depth, to moving Dio inside, all these guys are playing different positions to Malik Mohamed, playing inside the box, playing corner, playing safety. And all these guys are doing their job. And that says a lot about Dennis Allen and the coaching he's doing and the details. Those guys are on and how they're able to execute that game plan. That's what I'm seeing lately.

It's just so multiple and so just, I wouldn't call it, it's somewhat confusing, but they just throw so much at the offense that they just kind of don't know what's going on. Well, let's stay right there. And we're talking to Patrick Manley, the former. Bears, great. Be part of our pre-imposed game show again this weekend. I'll tell you about that in a second in this segment with Pat Manali is brought to you by Felco. For quality windows, sightings, and doors, call 8664 Felgo. Somehow we are living in a Bears world where Dio O'Dangbo is leading the Bears in sacks. He is leading the Bears in pressures. Let's talk about the position

that Dennis Allen has put him into succeed. What have you seen from Dio O'Dangbo? Just kind of think what we heard about him coming in, the length that he has, the athletic ability he has. Obviously, he's having him inside and rush downs, third and long, second long, and things like that. But he's a multiple player. He can do a lot of things. And his motor is excellent. One thing he has, you call it a long arm where, you know, if you picture a lineman blocking with two arms, he can stick his arm because he's got the length in between those two and get pressure up the middle on guards and tax. But I'm just seeing a lot of activity, and I keep saying the word active, because that's just what this defense looks like.

They're flying to the ball. But he's just, he has the opportunity to play these multiple positions, move them up and down the line, and he's taking advantage of it. And you're just seeing that athletic ability that was told to us when he was brought here, that, you know, he didn't get all the sacks. Would he come from? The Colts, I believe. It was. It was the Colts. Yeah, I'm drawing a blank.

You know, all that stuff that he was almost there, almost getting there on these sacks. well, you're seeing that, now he's finishing. And that's what I'm seeing is just the high energy, the athletic ability, and what Dennis Allen is allowing him and asking him to do, he's executing. Our segment with Patrick Manilis, brought to you by Tighthead Brewing, home of Long Snapper West Coast-style IPA. And one of the things that I really liked from the postgame show, the topics that you guys discussed, you and Olin with Mark Brody,

was talking about the standard two. We just had a segment, Patrick, where we discussed, how Ben Johnson wasn't committed to DeAndre Swift's role in yesterday's press conference. We saw him get benched after the fumble. That's what it looked like. That's sure what it felt like. When you see the decision that was made to a guy who just got extended, you know, what was your takeaway from that?

And when you hear Ben Johnson kind of, I don't know if he doubled down on it yesterday, but he sure didn't give a vote of confidence in the opposite direction. So when you hear that, what did you think? Yeah, I kind of try to put myself in the locker room with those situations. and as a former player, and if that was one of my teammates, I would say, oh, damn, he just benched one of our star players. And then you start looking around the locker room and you're thinking, that can be any of us.

If he's going to do it to him, he's going to do it to any of us. And you mentioned the word standard, and he's talked about it, and he's raised that. And now he's even raising it higher when you do that to a guy who you depend on, who you preached about how good he is or how good he was in the offseason, what he's brought to you during the preseason, what you expect of them for the season, that just reiterates all the way.

That just goes all the way through the locker room. Guys will look around, they'll actually talk about it. You know, I'd be at the lunchtime. I'm like, man, he pulled DeAndre Swift. Can you believe that? Oh, my gosh. So that goes a long way in the locker room. And it's unfortunate to happen to DeAndre,

and Olin and I talked about it, that he's a pro. Listen, he knows he can't do that. You just, you, you know, It stinks that it happened to him. But listen, doing that, I'm sure it was really hard on Ben Johnson as well, because it sounds like they have a great relationship. He has a lot of respect for him as a football player and a person. But you have to do that.

You're here to win games. You're getting paid to win games. You're here to lead men. You're here to get these guys to play at the best they can. And unfortunately, that's something you have to do because if you're preaching in that locker room and somebody's not doing it, you have to do it. So, yeah, it just makes that standard stay high and even raises it a little bit more. It would be really interesting to see what the carry load is on Sunday.

My gut is that Swift gets back to being swift, but we shall see. Let's stay on the offensive side of the ball. We haven't even really gotten to quarterback yet. Ben Johnson's going with Tyson Bayesian again. In Green Bay this week, do you like the decision? And what did you think of Tyson Bayesian's game? You know, the more you think about it, because we got all excited after the game and we're like, you got to stay with the better quarterback between two games.

and I thought it was Case Keenham. But the more you watch the game, Tyson played a very good game for a backup quarterback. And I always said, what, 1,09 days between Case Keatom's start. I think it was 159 days between Tyson Bajan start. So what I kind of think now is, did Case have the best game he could possibly have and just walk out and like, hey, I'm done? You know, like George Costanza, at the best moment you had, you just you're done. Can he play any better? I don't know.

but I think Tyson Bayesian can play better so if that is kind of the low bar of Tyson or the medium of Tyson I expect more out of them and I think maybe Ben Johnson does it well as well and can see more out of them so I can see why you go with Tyson

I think if Caleb is going to be out for two to three more weeks and maybe you can extend it another week of Tyson's plan at that level and greater so that's why I think Tyson is the right guy I've changed my mind I was a little caught up after the game but I think with Tyson, after watching him, he played a pretty darn good game. There were some interceptions that, you know, one where he threw it on the,

with a guy jumped off sides, the one to meatloaf should it was a bad throw. And then obviously the interception across the middle was bad. But other than that, he played a damn good game for a backup quarterback. So Tyson is my guy. I'm going to ride with him because I think what we'll see in the future will be better. And I think that's what they expect them. Patrick Manalie is joining us here on Rahimi and Grotie on the score. And wait a second.

is Packers Week. Here the Bears are coming off of yet another dominating win. They've now had three wins with three different quarterbacks. Ben Johnson's looking good. Matt LaFleur and the Packers are in disarray. Mightn't remind you, they had to go to overtime to beat the Jets, by the way. I smell some blood in the water. You've talked about how you feel better after games these days.

How do you feel going into this Packers' Week? Confident. extremely confident. And I love the fact that Ben Johnson has made this a true rivalry, that there is hatred there. I love listening to Jonah Jackson talk about Green Bay Road up there in Lake Forest, that he was like, why the hell is that in Lake Forest? And we need to change the name. That it's dripping now into that locker room. And it has for two years now. And it's exciting. And it's a long time coming now that I think it's the first time we've been favored, what, since 2006 up there or something like that. So I didn't even realize that. Wow. I think Biggs tweeted that out. I got to give him a shout out.

But it's something like that. But I'm just excited for this. And the city saying Green Bay sucks all the time is it's fun. And I love it. And let's just keep it rolling. And let's keep this wind streak against them going. But I just, we have an opportunity. I know I'd go all the way back to 2006.

And we went up there with, you know, rookie Devin Hester returns a punt for a touchdown. And we had that confidence in us that we were going to go up there and beat them. And we beat them bad. And I think this is kind of what's going on with this team that, you know, they feel like now it's, it's our time and I'm excited to hear that and feel that. Yeah, no doubt about it.

And I was listening to Luther Bird and Zoom with the media yesterday. And he says, we want to beat them really bad and make them quit. Yeah. But see, that's the mentality, which is fun. It's not just, hey, let's go beat the Packers. It's like, let's go do the job and shove their face in the dirt. And that's what's kind of fun about this rivalry. It's like your brother shoving your face in the dirt or whatever.

That happened to me a few times when I was a kid. But it's a good rivalry, and I love that friendly hatred, if you want to call it that. Who is your most friendly hatred with the Green Bay Packers? Was there a player? Colin Cole. Oh, Colin Cole. Say more. I hated him.

Respected him, but I hated him. He would always line up over me on field goal and punts and just try to run me over. He wouldn't try to block the kick or go after the punt. It was just me and him all the time. And I'll tell a quick story on myself. So he was in Green Bay. and maybe, I don't know, the third or fourth game we'd faced each other.

And it just, you know, you knew we were going against each other. And I didn't like him, had a lot of respect for him. But he kind of cheap shot of me on a pun at the line of scrimmage. So me being, I don't know what the right word is, but I pulled his hair while we were running down the field. He had dreads out of the back of his. And he's like, you can't do that? You can't.

And I was like, technically it's part of the uniform. It's in the rule book. And he just looked at me like, what? But that was the only way I could get back. to him. Yeah, get back at him. But yeah, Colin Cole was my one. I don't know if many people remember the name, but that was just a battle every Sunday we faced each other that was going to be, I knew he wasn't going. He was just trying to beat me up. And that's the only way to get back to him. It's like a little brother would. You'd pull on his hair. That's amazing, man. Hey,

real quick, back on the serious side of things, you had some really awesome breakdown of Bears Special teams at Sports Corner the other day. What are your thoughts on Bear Special teams? Like, what's popping to your mind in regards to that? There's just a lot of room for improvement. Everybody sees it on kickoff return, obviously. We want to see Xavieron Thomas get going. He's had two this year that he's been close to breaking. I talked about, you know, why were they running east-west in the game? But that's kind of what the Jets showed as they over-pursue on the back sides.

You want to run a counter to try to get outside. But the biggest thing, Mark, is they're just missing blocks up front. Normally, you know, we had lucky to have Devin Hester. You're not going to block all 10 guys every time. It's one of the hardest things to do is to back pedal and block somebody. But if you miss one, that's okay. missing two or three on each return. And that's the problem. That's why you're seeing

these things get stuffed. So I also mentioned that it's going to take a few weeks and now the weeks have stacked up to get those reps to get used to that. So I'm expecting more out of them because they have such good players on that special teams unit that have been around the NFL for a long time, been around Richard Hightower for a long time

and should play better. And the other one's a punt return team. Kleefe Raymond let one hit the ground. I think led to a 12-yard basically called a 12-yard loss, but they had to repunt, but there's things like that. You've got to field the punt, and they're missing blocks on that as well. And the other thing is I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Zavion Thomas back there as a punt returner.

He showed the preseason that he's a natural catcher of the ball, which is number one, if you're scouting a guy, because you don't want to put, we've had issues here before where guys are back there that look like they're trying to, you know, they can't catch a punt. Well, he looks like he can, and he's just a weapon. So I would give him more opportunities. But the biggest thing to me is just the blocking. The punt return blocking and the kick return blocking has to get. better and I'm sure that's being preached up there. They're probably drilling it a little bit more. So as well as the offense and the defense have been playing, there's room for improvement on special

teams. And if they can get that going, that's just another, you know, another weapon they have on Sunday against these other teams. I can't wait to hear about the experience that you're going to have this weekend because I don't think you were with us last year when we did the pre and post game from the wall at Gurney Mills Mall. You're doing the pre and post game from a movie theater in Gurney this Sunday, man. I'm excited. And it's just me and Zach. I guess the first one because Olin's wife is running the Chicago Marathon. So he will be busy. And I'll accept that excuse, Olin.

No, I'm just kidding. That's exciting for Wendy, man. His wife, that's amazing. I think she runs it every year, and it's just no thank you for me. But excited to be with Zach. And real quick, Zach was the one that got me my start in radio because we did the Bears All Access. My last year with the Bears, I was his co-host, and that's what got me into radio. So I'm excited to get back next to Zach.

You owe him everything, Patrick. I do. I do. He's my mentor. You too, Grotes. You too. You don't have to say that. That's okay. Patrick, thank you so much. Enjoy the golf today. Enjoy the White Sox later on. And we'll be looking forward to hearing more of your Bears takes, brother. Take care.

All right. We'll see you soon, guys. Thanks, Patrick. Yeah, so join the score this Sunday at the wall in Gurney Mills Mall. Zach Zadman and Patrick Manley will host our pregame show there from 10 a.m. until noon. And then they will be, they will be joined by Olin Crutes with a meet. reaction on the postgame show after Chicago takes on Green Bay. Catch the game on the biggest of screens while enjoying all the MVP comforts of a Marcus theater.

There will be drink specials as well. It's all happening at the wall in Gurney Mills Mall starting at 10 a.m. This Sunday I did it last year. It was the Eagles game. It was an absolute blast. It is a great experience. I genuinely recommend it. Coming up next, Ian Hap.

We'll talk to him. We'll get a little closure on the Cubs. try to find out what's next for Ian Hap as well. Will he be back with the Cubs? We will ask him that. It's Rahimi and Grotie on 104 3, the score. We love the way Ian Hap talks. That's why we like having them on each and every week here on Rahimi and Grotie on 104.

3, the score. Welcome back into the program. And Ian Hap, the gold Glover does indeed join the show. Ian, how are you, man? Welcome back. How are you guys doing? We're doing well. And I'm just wondering.

how you're feeling right now, man, after kind of processing the loss getting swept by the Padres and now that you've been away for it for a little while, how unique, how disappointing, how do you characterize what we just saw that is the 2020, 2026 Chicago Cubs? Yeah, I think, you know, for our group, you know, obviously a disappointing finish. That's not kind of what we set out to do this year and our expectations were higher than they get and bouncing the wild card around. And I think, you know, so credit to the Padres for how well they played

and kind of, you know, what their pitching staff was able to do to us. But, you know, we wanted to be in it longer. We wanted to really make a run this year. And, you know, it's unfortunate for that group. Just so many good players and good humans and kind of the closeness of that group. It was just a quick and unfortunate ending.

And, Ian, as much as we talk about the home field advantage that Wrigley can bring, San Diego, I feel like, has one very much their own as well. What was it like just playing there and how much do you think that factored into what you guys were dealing with? You know, it was a great atmosphere and it was loud and packed and all those things. You know, it's tough to know how much of an impact that has. I think certainly we would have, other than playing games at Wrigley, I think that any team in the wild card would tell you that when you're going to go play, you know, three games,

would you rather be on the road or in your home park. You know, everybody wants to be at home. So, you know, it's unfortunate that kind of at the end of the season, we couldn't secure that. And I definitely think, you know, you kind of look at one year or two another year as far as we play the same team and the same round. Yeah.

And certainly it had to be some type of factor. Yeah, that is crazy. Two years of the Padres. Ian, we're all wondering about you, too. and the future of the organization and what's next for the team. And we all sat here on the score and listened to every word that the Cubs president of baseball operations, Jed Hoyer had to say. And he said in regards to you and other people that obviously you will become a free agent,

he said everything is still on the table. What do you think the chances are that will continue to see you playing left field at Wrigley Field in the future? That's a good question. I don't have any answers about it right now. It's, you know, obviously, like I said, I've loved my time in Chicago, and it's been amazing. You know, the free agency process is not something I've been through before. You know, I was lucky enough to sign an extension before having to go through the process earlier in my career.

And so, you know, I don't really know what the process holds or how it's going to play out. And to be honest, what the Cubs. want to do and what their future is going to look like. And I think that that's kind of the uniqueness of this situation, this team, is kind of they have a bunch of different directions they can go in. And so we'll see how it all plays out in the coming months. Do you look forward to this process at all, the free agent process, to see what you're worth? Yeah, I think there's things about it that are exciting and interesting.

and, you know, far less about what you're worth and much more about, and I've been in the same place for 10 years and experienced one organization. And, you know, you don't get to talk to other teams and GMs and front offices much. And so I think that'll be an interesting part of the process, just seeing how other people view the world and what that looks like. And, you know, I've been lucky to be here for 10 years, but you do get, you know, you get your people's opinions. it's been amazing to have the consistency that we've had between, you know, with Jed being here in the entire time. And so, you know, you really understand and know how they value players and what they care about.

And it'll be interesting to see kind of the other side of that. Ian, what was your conversation with Jed Hoyer like? I know he touched on his relationship with you a bit in his season-ending press conference and talked about just the course of the career that you guys have had together and how he's seen you grow as a player and grow as a younger player in the league and now to this veteran. What was your conversation like with him? Yeah, you know, Jed and I were able to talk, you know, right after.

And, you know, that's an emotional part of like you finish the season and you're disappointed and, you know, just thanking him for 10 years. Jed and I have a special relationship and the fact that we've been together this long and kind of he's seen me through great times and tough times and as an infielder, as an outfielder, as a prospect, as a big leaguer. And so we have a really special relationship. For me, it's been special to see him take over

and kind of put his stamp on the Cubs. and that part of it, watches kids grow. You know, it's been crazy to see, you know, his three little boys running around from the time that they were babies to now kind of teenagers and get into high school and that type of thing. So, you know, when you have that bond with somebody for 10 years,

it is a special relationship. We haven't sat down after the last game of the year, and I'm sure we will before I head out of Chicago. And it is special. to have that and to go through so many things with one supervisor in that way. Of course you had Theo and you've had a couple different managers. But to have that relationship with one GM like that, I know you know how special it is to have that in baseball.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's remarkably special. He's seen so many, you know, parts of my life and my career. And so, yeah, I think, you know, Jed and I will have a special bond. regardless of how things go for forever. Yeah, so nothing should be ruled out at this point. But when I listen to the press conference, you heard him repeat over and over and over the pitching issues and wanting better pitching.

Does that, is that what goes? Like when you think about this analytically, do you think, wow, the Cubs might have to pour money into the pitching and maybe less goes into position players? Like, does that factor into what you think about it when you're being objective about your situation with the Cubs or not with the Cubs? Yeah, I mean, I think that, you know, with Say and I both being free agents, you know, they do, there's at-bats in the corner outfield. And there's a lot of innings.

And I think just it's a product of the roster that we have this year that most of the starting pitching innings are free agents. And so they're going to have to find a way to just fill the sheer number of innings for the starters. And so, you know, it'll be interesting to see how the dollars get allocated and kind of where, you know, they choose to fill those innings because it's, you know, there always is free agent pitching available and there's always tiers to, whether it's position players or pitching, and just kind of finding those innings. And honestly, starting pitching is expensive in free agency. And so that's, it's a, you know, they're going to have to figure out how to kind of. to put all those pieces together. And Ian, we would like to play some sound for you that came from Dansby Swanson. It was after the game, after the second playoff game in the wild card where you guys were swept in San Diego.

And Dan Svee was asked about you and just what you've meant to the team. And here's what he had to say. That's a tough one. I mean, he's met a lot to me. I think he's truly embodies. what it means to wear the jersey and I know he would probably never say that himself but the kind of like tradition and legacy that I feel like he's carried on from you know that that 16 team just the lessons that he has learned and like

he's taught me a lot about so he's probably my my longest friend that I've had to here. So yeah, I think that probably speaks enough for itself, but he's, yeah, I mean, he embodies the Cubs more than anyone I know. So, you know, he's a big reason why I'm here and very thankful for him. What does that mean to you? You guys are trying to make me cry in the radio, huh? I didn't expect Dan's be too. I'll say that. Yeah, I mean, it was really special comments from him. And I think, you know, he's an unbelievable teammate and a special humor.

And, you know, you play with a lot of guys and it's rare that you get to play with a group that is going through the same things in life of a similar age. And, you know, we were really lucky myself, Dansby, Nico, James and Tyon. You know, we got these four really special years together where we were all in the same stage of life kind of with going through similar things and getting to build something together. And, you know, we were coming off that really tough year in 22. and Dansby and Jamo come in and Nico and I obviously had been here. And so to be able to build this kind of culture of what we wanted to be important and for things to look like was just this really special thing we got to do together. We got to talk so much baseball about what we cared about and what was important and grow together and learn from each other. and that is an incredibly special thing that we've got to do in our careers that I will always cherish

and him as a teammate as a person to watch him go out there, compete every day, play every day. And like, man, he's a really special dude. So those are some really special relationships that I will always, always cherish. And yeah, to hear him talk like that, you know, first time I heard it, I got really emotion. and those are the guys that you just, you love them. And they're like brothers. Well, Ian, we hope that no matter what happens with you, whether you stay with the Cubs, whether you move on from the Cubs,

that the lines of communications always stay open here on Rahimi and Grotie and with 104-3, the score. And I'll just say this. I was lucky enough to be in the booth doing pre-imposts with Pat Hughes and Ron Cumer when you came on the scene, your debut with the Cubs, May 13th, 2017 in St. Louis, a two-run homer off of Carlos Martinez that day. I'll never forget. I think it was Pat Hughes or Ron. I think it was on the air saying something to the effect of, this guy isn't going anywhere. This guy is going to be here for a long time with the Cubs.

All these years later, they were right. And I just want to read Joe Madden's comments about you, too, after that game. It's amazing how true you are to yourself because he says he's very calm. and a confident young man, said Cubs manager, Joe Madden. What you saw today was not a surprise to any of us. He's obviously an interesting young player. He was never overwhelmed by being here today. He put the uniform on and went out there and hit a home run. Ian, that sounds like Ian Hap to me.

You're the same guy every day. Yeah. I was lucky with that group that they embraced me so much in spring training. It made me comfortable in 17. You know, that talked about Dan's, one of the things that he was saying about just the things I learned from that group is, you know, as a young player, they made me comfortable. They want a spring training.

They made me feel like a part of the team so that when I did come up in May, I could be comfortable contributing. And I think that's something that we've really carried on as a group, making young players feel comfortable and feel like a part of the group so that when, you know, Pedro or Matt Shaw or somebody comes up, they can contribute and be a huge part of the team's success. And so I'm grateful for that. And, yeah, that was a special day.

And, you know, to think that, you know, 10 seasons later, it's pretty remarkable to have won this jersey for this long. Well, Ian, I can't say thanks enough. You know, I've been doing this midday shift now in some way, shape, or form for six years. And you have been here week in and week out, and you offer your perspective, no matter what the situation is in good times and bad, you're giving back to people. You participate with left field, as you've talked about as well. with fans and I think you're a cub for life but most importantly you're also Ian Hap always to us

and your presence on this show is always so great we're so grateful for it and it's it's been wonderful to work with you no matter what happens and if this is all a waste for next year then I will be happy to look blubbery but we can't say thanks enough for you being a part of our show no matter what well thank you guys for for being here every week with me and and for not taking it too hard on me through everything. It's been a pleasure to come on and talk to you guys and talk baseball and have these conversations and I appreciate you guys always, you know, making me feel like a human and highlighting, you know, whether it's the foundation work or connect or the personal stuff off the field, you know, I appreciate that stuff and you guys have made it really easy. So thank you for

everything. And I really appreciate the listeners for, you know, the feedback is always super positive from this show and I think it's a huge testament to you guys. So thank you. And Ian, I've got a message from the big boss, Mitch Rosen. It's Ray here. He wants to let you know that on behalf of the station, we thank you for your partnership, and we hope you remain a cub, man. Thank you, guys, and thank you, Mitch. Thank you, Ian Hap. We'll talk to you down the road, man.

Best of luck to you. Thank you, Dan. Yep, that was Ian Hap. And you're right. Layla, maybe he'll be back and it'll be great. I love, if there's two things I love doing, it's introducing people who already know each other and saying unnecessary goodbyes. Hey, you know what, though?

It felt good to exchange what we all feel about each other. You know what I mean? Like, no matter what, this was a productive conversation with Ian Hap. And you know what? People do get the benefit of the doubt when you know them every week because they're doing something for you

and you're doing something with them. Absolutely. And people are allowed to have their opinions. My goodness, you are allowed to have your opinions. But to work with us week in and week out, that is not easy. And for him to be there always for that many years, yeah, I should have said thank you a long time ago. Heck, and no matter where he is, I would imagine that Ian Hapel's probably happily still intermittently come on the radio with us and talk about it,

especially when he comes back into town with whatever team he is with if he is not with the Cubs. So a lot of what ifs when it comes to Ian Hap at this very second. Halftime is next. Did I hear we're talking about bears? Layla is the bears on half time? I don't know if you remember, but last week, I said there would be one bear that for sure was going to have a win.

There would be a bear win last week. Turns out there were two. Half time. There was bears and there was bear. Oh, bears and bear. And then the bears found out about the bear. And that's where the magic has happened. Well, if you're confused now,

you need to stick around because we'll clear that all up during a half time with Rahimi and Grotie at 104-3, the score. Bears. We started Rahimi and Grotie today, of course, talking about the White Sox, who are in pole position to advance potentially to the American League Championship series. They're up to O on the Guardians with game three, a potential clincher on the south side.

Tomorrow they are practicing today. We just spoke to Ian Hap. He doesn't know if he's coming back to the Cubs at this point. Patrick Manley, the former Bear, was with us. and he told us that he is sold on Tyson Bayesian, even though he wasn't sure if he was immediately after the game, but upon review of the film, he likes Tyson Beijing quarterbacking at Green Bay.

And we also talked about DeAndre Swift and Ben Johnson, not committing to DeAndre Swift to be the load running back this weekend in Green Bay. It's laptop. Well, friends, not only did we get a Bears win over the Jets, but we got a bear win. Bear. Fat Bear Week has crowned a new champion. Fat bear. Catmai National Park in Alaska where the salmon are a plenty and the bears eat them so then they can go hibernate. There were some fat bears doing their thing this past week. And the winner is a male bear named Backpack. Beek, Pek. He's 20 years old and he's officially number 89, beat out an adult female 9-10 to win the annual online tournament, which Pitts Brown Bears head to head in a single elimination bracket-style contest.

And in the end, backpack won with 103,344 votes compared to 9-10s 98,253. His mom has also been a champion. It's into family. Good bloodlines. Yeah, Holly. His mom, Holly, who is a particularly very fat bearer when she won. That's after she had finished having kids and she wanted to focus on herself. I wish I were kidding, but that was the description that they gave Holly at the time.

So this is clearly in the family. he is a backpack is a medium large bear with blonde ears who weighs a thousand or somewhere up to 1,200 pounds. His fur tends to be light brown early in the summer, transforming into a darker grizzled brown hue by fall. And they say that he's not aggressive. Now I don't think that that means that he's friend-shaped like you could hug him. Don't scratch his belly.

They're so cute, but they will kill you. So the quote is, Unlike many large adult bears, backpack has not shown much aggression toward his competitors. He'll stand up for himself when necessary, but he prefers to use a quiet strength to gain access to preferred fishing spots.

His body size suggests that strategy works. He's known for perching on a rock in the middle of the river, downstream of the falls, where he patiently fishes for salmon. What a life. That is a life. It's also a good sign of an ecosystem that is working.

So credit to Alaska and the fat beers. Well, my two loves have combined. Bears social media asked bears we know, as in Chicago Bears, to congratulate Backpack on winning Fat Bear Week. Backpack, that's the bear's name. I mean, he's fat. I ain't going to law. I think he needs to lose a little white.

That's what I think. Fat bear, you're right. He is fat. Thickums. Congratulations, man. You deserve it. Keep eating them salmon. And enjoy hibernation.

Congratulations, though, Backpack. No, I can see why he won, though. I can see. I just want to congratulate Backpack on a big victory, big inspiration to all of us, I think, that continue to be large bears. Every time I look at him, I just see inspiration to get better myself. Really proud of the way he put on for us. Fat back.

Backpack. I'm giving me words of encouragement? Like, I hope he win? Oh, he won. Oh, yes. Yo. Shout out Backpack. with the fat back so proud of you keep eating man like you know well deserved keep going and

you know many more fat back awards i mean we appreciate him representing but like i think we went a little overboard i ain't got a lot to you i mean that's a big bear that's a big that's a big bear i don't know i'm talking to the bear yeah do you have a message Deer backpack. He doesn't speak English. Good job. He was eating good. You look good.

I don't know. Backpack. I just wanted to tell you, congratulations for being a fat ass. Fat ass. Is that what he does? Rocheon Johnson. Donnell. He doesn't speak English.

What do we think he speaks, Dernel? Russian. The bears you heard from were Tori Taylor, Daniel Hardy, Malik Muhammad, Theo Benedict, our guy Neville Gallimore, who will be on the show at 1 o'clock today. We'll have to follow up on that for sure. Indeed. T.J. Edwards, Darnel Wright and Rochon Johnson.

Shout out backpack with the fat back. I love that our guy Neville Gallimore flipped it into the fat back award. That's what he congratulated him for. Also, T.J. Edwards was offended by fat bear weeks or by backpack's fat bearness. I mean, he's fat. I ain't got a lot. Hey, Tori Taylor, don't you dare. body shame backpack, okay? At least Daniel Hardy knew.

He was like, good luck in hibernation. Like, Daniel Hardy understood what was happening here. I loved that so much. That's great. That's awesome. Darnel, he doesn't speak English. I just want to talk to Darnel, like, at all times. I think, yeah, I think you and Darnel would hit it off.

Well, when he said he doesn't, make each other laugh. Like, Darnel doesn't accept metaphors, like, when he was called a unicorn, he's like, he's like he doesn't, I don't have a horn. Yeah, but I don't have a horn. It was like so genuine and naive. He doesn't speak English. It doesn't. What is the native tongue?

Speaks Alaskan. I love it. I love that sense of humor so much. Coming up next, it is time for five on it. Bears and White Sox questions I can guarantee. Coming up next on Rahimi and Grody on 1043, the score. Who was the MVP of the White Sox come from behind four three win over the Guardians in game two of the American League Division series.

I shall select Sean Burke. They needed some straightening out right from the beginning of that game. Didn't really work out for Anthony Kay. Unfortunately, Sean Newcomb, giving up that RBI chopper and then the bad throw as well. You needed somebody to settle everybody down. And, oh boy, did Sean Burke do it. Five and a third, one run, one hit, retired 13 in a row at one point, was pulled with two outs in the eighth inning.

and so technically it was Grant Taylor who actually gave up that RBI hit that goes on Sean Burke's record. But boy, man, especially relative to his last performance against Houston where he gave up the three home runs to see this man doing what he did. And as Russ Dorsey said, he said it very well, kind of had shades. I don't think quite as perfect as the July version of Sean Burke was because he was striking everybody out and walking nobody then. But this portends well not only for now and what the white. Sox are trying to do against Cleveland, but there I say, if they get into the American League Championship series, you're going to need people to actually start games, and that gave me a lot of confidence what Sean Burke did yesterday. Yeah, pitching has been the question mark. So that makes perfect sense.

I'm going to do the exact opposite. I'm going to give it to Munay because it's my excuse to talk about what a good at bat I thought he had in that fourth inning. So Munei gets the White So White Sox on the board with a three-two count. And there are two men on at first and second. and it was good situational hitting, which is something that is at a premium in this town. Why one team is still in the playoffs and the other one isn't. So once again, there's Mune, just staying hot whatever way he can.

And the single to get the socks on the board that scores Kyle Teal, Miguel Vargas goes to second. They didn't get anything else in the fourth inning. But that started to kind of chip away. And then it led to really good at bats, like what we saw out of Braden Montgomery and then Chase Midroth. So in a game, where every single at bat mattered.

Yet again, you're seeing how the White Sox are mixing it up, hitting wise, to just do what needs to be done. And that's how they got to game too. Honorable mention from both of us, if you don't mind, Layla, two brayed and Montgomery, too. Seriously? Yeah, that two out hit down the right, and like his big moment, man,

biggest moment of that kid's young career, all part of the Crochet Club. I mean, smoke that ball, too. Yeah, a little bit of a ball. And I believe that's what flipped the socks win percentage. Which makes sense because they took the lead. But when it's a one-run ball game, it's not always that cut and dried. Which is why the Chase Midroth hit deserves double honorable mention.

And then Joe Adel stressed us all out. Yeah, he did. Oh my God, that was a well-hit ball. You talk about the triple? Yeah. How about the last? Who had the last out of the game that was caught by Brenton Doyle in the outfield? Brent Doyle, I thought it was been a little dramatic jumping for that ball,

but it was struck well against Grant Taylor. Well, and after what happened with Sam Anzanacci and the outfield and Brian Rochio, I was like, hey, none of that, none of that kids. He took a step in the wrong direction. Yeah. You're going the wrong way, Antonacci. They've made up for it. Have some more ice cream, Sam. He's the lovely day.

Shout on number two. More on the White Sox ice cream at 145. But we continue on. Question number two. Fox sports writer, Bucky Brooks released his weekly ranking of the top 10 teams in the NFL. Well, here's his list. Number 10, the Raiders down one spot from last week. Number nine, a new entry to the top 10, the Cleveland Browns.

Number eight, the Ravens, up two spots from last week. Number seven, another new entry to the top 10. Duh, bears. Number six, the Buffalo Bills, down five spots from last week. Number five, the Seattle Seahawks up one spot from last week. Number four, the Jacksonville Jaguars up four spots from last week. Number three, the Vikings. Number two, the Kansas City Chiefs.

the top of Bucky Brooks list. Number one, the San Francisco 49ers, up three spots from last week. So what do you think of where the Bears landed in the Fox Sports Writer Top? Bucky Brooks top 10? And overall, your thoughts on how it stands? I don't hate his list, frankly. I think if you're going to honor three-and-one teams, though, and I can't believe I'm saying this, then how are the Giants not in it, I guess?

But do you take them seriously? Because I don't either, so I get it. That's my own way of talking to myself, but I think the bears deserve to be in it. The Browns definitely deserve to be in it. And they have the same record as the Raven. So that makes sense. Shout out to Declan Doyle. And then the Jaguars, there's a lot of, there's a lot of chatter surrounding their

offensive coordinator right now that he might be the next wonder kind, if you will, like a real one, not like me making fun of Ryan from the office. So given what's going on with Jacksonville, who I was very much interested in what was going to happen to them this season. I hope they're going to get enough tension now, by the way. It makes sense that their number four, tension. Attention. Attention, yeah.

Oh, that's right. I'm doing the wrong thing, Liam Cohen. I'm giving her team attention. And I talk about Caleb Williams. However will we live. And we got regression issues here, you know, as Ben Yonson said. The Browns being three and one is pretty wild. It is wild.

Like, I don't know if I could handle seeing them in the top. Top 10. I don't know if it's true or not. When I say true, I mean, like, are they actually legitimate? But guess what? We all love Todd Monkin. He's a local guy. His dad is Bob Monkin, no longer with us, but he was the classic head coach at the High School. I attended, Lake Park High School. So shout out to all the Lake Parkins and the Bob Monkens and the Todd Monkins. So good for them. I root for him. I just, I don't know if I buy it. I don't know if I buy it with Cleveland. They may be that fast start team that comes back down. earth eventually. I'm buying Todd Monkens' offensive prowess. I'm not buying the Deshawn Watson

redemption. No. Maybe that's it. Nope, you don't have to acknowledge, like, you can acknowledge Deshawn Watson's off the field clear issues and also understand that that's partially why they're in the position they're in right now. I'm actually happy for the Chiefs. I like seeing the Chiefs back in there at number two. I'm a sucker for Pat Mahomes and winners and things like. that, so I'm good there. Okay, Caleb, and things like that. And things like that. They're four and oh.

I'm good with San Francisco is the best team right now. I have no dispute with that whatsoever. Let's get the Vikings out of there, though. Let's get the Vikings out of there. They're a funny four and oh, right? I need to break it to you, but the Vikings are also four and oh. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're a funny four and oh, aren't they?

This is like on the back of the defense, really, is it not? Okay, what did I just say? Because Kevin O'Connell was on ESPN earlier. If I'm Kevin O'Connell, am I just breathing easy knowing that I can work with quarterbacks and I have Brian Flores? He got that dreadful J.J. McCarthy off the roster. Is that what you're saying? I got Justin Jefferson. Oh, yeah. He didn't play, though, this last. So they won without Yustin Yefferson. And they're right. He didn't play, did he? I don't think he did. You know, you guys know I was on a save Justin Jefferson redemption tour. Like, get him out of the Vikings. Like, get him out of the Vikings.

Don't keep him in the division. Save him from dysfunctional Vikings. You still have the Jordan Anderson problem, though. He likes to beat up on the Bears and the T.J. Hawkinson problem and all of that. So let's get the Vikings. And things like that. So you guys, speaking of things like that. And Aaron Jones! That guy.

He never wants to lead the division ever. The Thickians. Yeah. So the Bears placement in number seven, you guys are both feeling that. You like where they stand. Oh, yeah. We didn't even really mention the bears. Yeah, I'm okay. I'm good with the Bears being in the top 10. Like, I think the bears are a top 10 team.

And if I had to quibble with it, I'm not sure exactly where I would put them in the top 10. So to answer your question, right, thanks for asking. Yes, I am good with them at 7. Yeah, it's not like you would have that, well, the Falcons, I don't know. Like that's, Falcons. B. John Robinson is a monster. I'm enjoying that. Right. Me too. Good for Atlanta, right? Yes, but at the same time, you know, I think, uh, are you thinking about those compensatory picks? Yes, I am thinking about the compensatory picks, but you know what I'm also thinking about is they, they confidently extended Jervon Dexter. They sure did. He was

looking good yesterday and Monday night football. They're coming up in a couple weeks for the Bears after the Packers. Yeah, they are. That's true. Yeah, the Bears are at the Packers and at Atlanta, home against New England, at Seattle, and home against Tampa Bay.

Number three. It's five on it out 104. The score with Laila Roheamy and Mark Grody. Here's question number three. Bears running back, DeAndre Swift, had a snap count of 33, which amounted to 35% of the offensive snaps in Sunday's 2312 win over the Jets. Will Swift go over or under that snap count in this Sunday's game against the Packers? Man, I still think he goes over.

I think things do go back to normal for D.Andre Swift, even though we heard Ben Johnson being kind of all over the board when it came to talking about him, saying that when asked about DeAndre Swift during the Zoom yesterday by Dan Weederer, He said it was a little bit of a buzzkill because of the fumble that he had. He also credited did Ben Johnson the defense for stopping the bleeding, as he put it. So he talked about the bleeding that DeAndre Swift caused. And then at the end did not necessarily guarantee Swift his complete load of carries back, saying it all depends on practice.

But I like the fact that the standard is the standard. And I love watching a nun guy run the fourth. football, but DeAndre Swift is your best running back. There's a reason why he was given the money that he was given. It goes back to normal against Green Bay. What would be the most petty game plan impossible against Green Bay? Would it be to just run the football? Like somehow you don't even want to pass the ball?

No, to have two quarterbacks lining up all day long. That would be the most insulting thing. Some sort of modified wildcat, if you will. Have a fat guy running in. Yeah. Backpack? Yeah, backpack. Right, right.

Backpack. Have a play for backpack, the fat bear. revive the fridge thing. I mean, if he wants to do that because the mini fridge. I mean, Fridge Perry was born in a lot of ways on a Monday night football game against the Green Bay Packers and George

Cumbie. So maybe, and that embarrassed them then, maybe you do that again. Whatever the most ridiculously trolling game plan is against the Packers, that's what I would do. Kick a Packers defense while it's down. Like I would just run lead draw every play if it got me four yards because guess what that would do?

Move the chains first down. So, whatever is happening there, I think I might do. But at the same time, I confidently believe that the Bears run game right now can be a bit running back agnostic. Is D'Andre Swift your best running back? Yes. Is he the best at making same things look different and different things look the same?

Yes. But evidently, there's a message Ben Johnson was trying to send. And I think it has a lot to do with, we don't care that you got extended. If you don't take care of the ball, bad things are going to happen to you as far as the rock. and somebody pointed this out too was that his past blocking was in question I guess this past week or there were a couple blocks where there might have been a concern.

I've seen DeAndre Smith Switch willingly block this season when it came to being some of the last line of defense for Caleb Williams, for example. So I don't know that I want to go out that far but I do know if there's one thing that upsets Ben Johnson it is no block no rock. So maybe that might have something to do with it as well.

I would have to go back and look at the All-22 on the blocking assignments. But the fumble seemed seemed to loom large. That is the overwhelming factor in all of this. What if all of a sudden, like at the end of the week, it's like bears activate Savon Ahmed. Is he, wait.

I think he's on the practice squad, isn't he? How do you feel about him versus, what happened to Britain Brown? Did he get put on injured? I don't think Britain. I don't know that he was saved. I think I'd have to look at the practice squad. I think Ahmed is on the practice squad. I don't think my guy, Britton Brown made it, the duky. Ahmed is on the practice what?

There it is. There it is. Can you imagine these activated? Preseason All-Stars? Yeah. And Britton Brown is on injured reserve. Okay, yeah, that's what I thought. I thought Britton was injured.

So he was saved by IR. Okay. Somebody wants you to stop with the Yustin Yefferson. I said, Grotie, please stop with the Yustin-Yeperson. But why? No. You understand? Yeah, I get encouraged to do that.

But, yeah, the masses like it. I'm here to please the masses. Five on it. Number four. Through the first four weeks of the season, are you ready to say Bears' defensive end, Dio, Dangbo, indeed looks motivated. Yeah, I am.

That's why they hired him. They paid him because they thought he had more potential. The hurry numbers that he had on quarterbacks when he was with Indianapolis were an indication. And I think Dio has been a more disruptive presence at the line of scrimvage. Here's my problem with my thought. Is it that my standard is too low for the Bears pass rush? Like, is he earning all of the money on the contract?

I don't know that I can confidently say that yet, but do other things. And that's what he's been doing. Dyer, you're tall. Put your hands up the line of scrimmage, about a pass down or two. And he did. He's like, okay, Layla, sure thing. Did they talk about it on the Fox broadcast? No.

But I saw you. I saw you do it. So I would say, yeah, he does look more motivated. And they're having fun with it. That's the best part. This is turned into a joke where people are enjoying it and it's resulting in success. I agree with you. And I love it because right now, Dio Dangbo leads the Bears in sacks.

He leads the Bears in pressures. And I talk about it all the time. When he first came here, like with the Bears, everybody kind of looked at the sack numbers and said, what exactly does Ryan Poles see in this guy? Why are they projecting him as a player? And I literally asked Ryan Pol, in the auditorium press conference that day, what are we not seeing here in these sack totals?

And he said, you got to watch the film. You got to watch the film. I didn't see that show up last year, but it has shown up this year. Like he is disruptive, and he is now starting to get home. I don't project him to be a double-digit sack guy, but if he does affect play on the field,

as Ryan Poles invited me to look at the film and hearing Patrick Manley, saying that he is popping up and flashing and contributing and doing things other than just getting to the quarterback, and providing harassment for the quarterback. That's good. I'm buying in right now. I owe the bang bow.

Five on it. Number five. Five on it on 104 through the score. Here's our final question. Packers coach Lamp Matt LaFleur told reporters in Grebe Monday that defensive end, Mike Parsons will not return to practice this week as he continues to rehab from last year's torn ACL. Parsons said this summer that he thought week six was the quote most optimistic date for him to return. I know it's only Tuesday, but let's check in how. check in on how you're feeling about this game.

On a scale of 1 to 10 on the confidence meter, trademark, where would you rate your level of belief that the Bears will beat the Packers on Sunday? 7.2. People don't like it when I get overconfident about things. So I'm just going to, I'm going to go 7.2. That's it. Bears will win the game, but 7.2 is my confidence meter. I was thinking 7.5. With a backup quarterback, which is kind of bold.

It's quite bold. But guess what? The Bears are favored by 2. and a half. According to Patrick Manley, according to Brad Biggs, according to BetMGM, according to Joe Fortinball.

All I was going to say was it's a backup quarterback powered by Ben Johnson. Exactly. Exactly. So I think you need Michael Parsons, Green Bay. And if you don't have him, advantage bears, or as Jerry Jones would call him,

Michael. I just looked it up here, too, and it says, Green Bay sucks. It's another. reason why we should be confident. It's a fact. Yeah. Green Bay sucks.

I do want to go to Door County. I've enjoyed my time in Milwaukee. I've enjoyed my time in Lake Geneva. Are you ready for Kenosha Friday? Yeah. I've definitely enjoyed the broth stop. But Green Bay sucks. Green Bay sucks.

Oh yeah. That's it. So we are done with five on it. Coming up next. It's an all 22 type of day. Tim Jenkins, founder and CEO of Jenkins, Elite breaks down Tyson, Bejant and the quarterbacks and the Bears game plan and all the stuff that Tim does. He is next with Rehemi and Grotia on 104.3, the score.

We love jumping into the film with Tim Jenkins as we welcome you back to Rahimi and Grotie on 104. The score. Tim is joining us on our video stream to watch Search the Score, Chicago on Twitch and on YouTube. The Bears beat the Jets 23 to 12. Tyson, Bejian, 25 of 34, 268. TD's N-A-Pick. Tim, how are you? Welcome back to the score. I'm doing great. I'm doing great. Sorry, I have myself on mute. That's how dumb I am. No, I'm doing great. I'm doing great. I'm happy to be here with you guys. It happens to the best of us.

We have one of those per show, generally speaking. So it's the world in which we live. Tim, what did you think about Tyson-Bage and back-to-back weeks where Ben Johnson puts a game plan together to allow a backup quarterback to thrive and win for the Bears? Yeah, I think let's start there if you're okay with that. Because to me, I think both these guys, Case and Tyson have done a great job. With that being said, I can't, I don't know if I can like overstate how impressive it is

that we've been able to put two game plans together where, again, you can see how 18 could have made it better, but really how these are, we're still running our offense. We're still running everything that we would run with. Caleb in there. However, we've adjusted it or we've blocked it up a little different to where we're going to protect it a little bit better because we don't have that same level of mobility. And we're just, I mean, we're just beating teams up. I really, it was, it was so funny how many offensive plays they ran because you guys know, right? You know, Monday morning mornings are big,

right? In the NFL, you got to get up early and make sure you get these tape breakdowns done. And I'm like, holy smokes, I got 88 plays to watch, right? Like, that's a, that's a college amount of snaps, you know? And we're just. just dominating in the run game and the past game. But I do think Tyson was unbelievable. I thought he played a really clean game. Even the interception, you look at it and you go shoot, man, that's a great read. We're just a little bit behind him. Right? If we're in front of it, it's a, you know, that's a, that's another huge play on a deep over. Instead, we're a little bit behind and they've got a heck of a DB that makes a play on it. So to me, I think it was really, really impressive.

The run, I thought the run designs were awesome. Um, but simultaneously. just the past game. I thought Tyson executed really well. And it was, it's just, it's hilarious to me that Ben's basically been like, hey, I know what you guys all thought you saw with Case and what the national media is saying. But I'm going to go ahead and do what I want to do. And Tyson's going to be the starter. And we're going to still roll. Well, and Tim, what did you think about the differences in the game plan that we saw for Case Keen, where Ben Johnson's creativity was also on display compared to what we saw for Tyson Baygent. So what's interesting is that and this is like just a great question to pose to them almost is it felt like two different game plans from the sense of with case it was hey let's get the ball to your hand a little bit quicker you know we still had some overrout some deep overs but there was a lot of perimeter screen a lot of just case putting his back foot in the ground delivering and then this week it felt a lot more like let's push the ball down the field and i don't know if that's just the general game plans for the two teams right if he you know if they thought hey you know against philadelphia here's what we want to do

against New York, here's what we want to do, or if it was to the guy's skill sets, what I will say that I was really impressed with was the amount of play action, run action type. I don't want to call them full-blown shot plays, but that, you know, we would call it a downfield, right? It's not quick game, it's not a shot, but those downfield throws, those, you know,

eight to 20-yard kind of those dig routes, those bang-a-ts, those deep overs, where all of a sudden you were like, holy smokes, we're pushing the ball down the field. I just thought it was impressed. And I do think it was more indicative of who Tyson is as a quarterback versus that limited time we saw when he came in with those bad elements the week Caleb got hurt. I do think this was way more indicative of the kind of quarterback he can be. I want to ask you about a couple of specific throws in the game.

One of the one of the most important throws was in the fourth quarter. Bears are leading 23 to 12. They had just scored that 58-yard touchdown, 530 to go in the game. a third and five pass to Colston Loveland for 18 yards to kind of, I think at that point, probably clinch the win. What did you think about that throw? And then the throw to Roma Dunesay at the end of the second quarter, 37-yard pass that ultimately sets up a field goal.

Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, both of them awesome. The Loveland one, the Loveland one to me, when you think about like ripping into Colson, to me it's like a heck of a throw by Tyson, but just like the amazing. amount of mismatch that 84 dictates on the field, I do think, and it's not only having 84, right? It's like, it's almost like when you watch, you know, when the, when the chiefs were really rolling, and not that they're not, but when the chiefs were really rolling, it's like, Travis Kelsey is a good player and he's a good player no matter where he goes, but he's made great by Andy Reid. And you look at Colson Loveland, he's kind of cut from the same cloth where it's,

you have this tied in who is obviously highly skilled. However, pairing him with a dynamic coordinator is only going to make it better. And then the roam throw, I mean, it's just another one of those in cuts where you go, holy smokes. Like we were just ripping those big digs, those, you know, we call it like a mag route where, you know, if you think about it, a dig, right?

You know, for everybody listening and not seeing, you know, you're running up 20 yards and you're just running flat, right? We all ran like an in route when we were, you know, playing backyard football or in Little League where you go up in your own flat. These routes that the bears are running are more like a mag, which is, hey,

you're not necessarily perfectly flat, but you're also not on that old school post. You're kind of feeling, right, a speed cut. You're going to feel where the defense is and kind of trying to bend into that void, which is actually way harder, I think, as a quarterback, because you really have to assess, hey, their angle coming out of it. And he was doing a great job,

whether it be Rome or whether it be Luther Berr. I mean, I thought we were ripping it to just about everybody. And then the one that I thought was my favorite play of the day was the little screen they threw to 87, right? Because they dialed it up with all this hard run action. They made it look like they were taking another one of those shots. And then they dump it off on like a Y middle screen. I'm getting absolutely killed in my YouTube comments because I commented that the Jets actually

two guys run into each other and then there's just a guy that just laying there on the field. And I said, hey, this dead body is really killing us because that's where the place should have hit. instead we have to cut outside and it turns into a nine-yard game but man if the jets actually don't hit each other that might have been a touchdown it was so well designed instead it turns out the best defense for some of these bears plays is just laying down on the field in a spot that they're supposed to be going you know um so yeah it was it was just an overall impressive day but both of those throws i thought were big time um the one that i also was really blown away with was that one that they were backed up.

You know, they're backed up. They're on, I want to say, their own four or five yard line. And Ben dials up a play action, run action shot where he rips a big one. I want to say it was to roam on like a speed out. But you sit there and you go, man, how much confidence do you have in a backup quarterback where we're calling a play in which his back foot is going to hit five yards into our own end zone? Like think of the level of trust that takes where we're willingly dropping him well into the end zone.

because we trust that he's either going to get the ball of his hand and avoid the sack, or he's going to do exactly what he did, which is, you know, deliver a 15-yard bench route that gets us out of backed up territory. I thought that was maybe the one that you could point to and say, man, Ben has a ton of trust in this kid. With a third string left tackle, no less. And I think that's the one, Tim, where on the game broadcast, Drew Brie said he loved that play call and called it a short porch when he was talking about working from that deep in your own territory. and then still being able to make something happen.

Yeah, I just think to me, I'm like, it's one of those where, and you're dead on, I didn't even think about that. We got our third string left tackle. We go run action. And then all of a sudden, you know, you're five yards away from Orloffs game this thing, right? And we're in big trouble. So to me, it's like, I don't know. I was really impressed.

I thought that was a great call. To me, that really signified like, okay, hey, this isn't just another backup quarterback we're trying to protect. this is legitimately we're calling stuff with full trust. To me, that's one that you know he would call with Caleb in there, right? So then knowing that that's coming in this week, I mean, I think gives us a lot of confidence. And then, you know, I think, you know, depending on what Twitter, you know, rabbit hole I go on, it seems like, you know, maybe 18's available this week, maybe not.

But I do think if he's not and we're rolling with Tyson going into Green Bay, I still think that's a winnable game for us. What's he got to be better at, Tyson Bay? And when you watch the tape, you're like, oh, I don't know about that through. Gosh, that's such a good question. And it's so funny because if I was going to comment on any of the other quarterbacks I watched this week, I'd like have something immediately. He did throw the intercept.

He did a couple near balls that were intercepted, but penalties brought them back. So, I mean, those are a couple of potential. If I had to reach, I mean, I don't want to say reach. If I had to like, if I was digging deep on anything, like if I was sitting in that quarterback room today, we would be talking a lot about. just to me, the interceptions weren't full conviction throws. Like they felt a little bit like, oh, I think I have this. And all I would be sitting there telling him is like, dude, if we're going to drive a deep

over in the NFL, just drive the thing, right? I'd rather see you rip this thing and be a little bit too far in front than throw it with not enough conviction to where guys undercut it. So that would be what I would maybe, I don't want to say nitpick. That would be what we would be addressing. But simultaneously, you know, a lot of it's physical. Right. Hey, we were a little bit behind with this throw or this or this or this, which is just to me so exciting because, you know, a lot of quarterbacks, we're still like,

oh, hey, we need you to get to this route. And it's like we threw our backup quarterback in there. And holy smokes, from a progression standpoint, I felt like we were pretty, I don't want to say perfect, because I'm sure there's two or three that I'm missing, but we are pretty dang good, which to me, I've always felt like is easier. It's easy to clean up the physical stuff. These guys are in the NFL for a reason. And the mental piece is the one that you usually have a huge drop off from your starter. And I just, again, I think it's just kudos the way they're coaching these guys up and the way this system as a whole is designed. What do you think of Luther Burton in the run game?

We saw that wrinkle get installed a little bit this past Sunday. Yeah, I think you got to love it. I think anytime you can get the ball to a playmaker like that, I love it. And I think it's so much easier to script run game touches than it is past. I think running screen game touches are great, especially when you look at, okay, hey, we want to get the ball to 10. We want to make sure he gets X amount of touches in a game. But I'm going to be honest with you right now. When I was breaking down some of those run plays, I'm sitting there thinking to myself, I could have ran some of these.

The amount of movement that we were getting on the right side of the line is so impressive. And here's the other thing, the amount of buy-in that we have from our skill guys. That's what I think is missing in a lot of these NFL locker rooms is, you know, hey, our interior five or, you know, hey, this tight in or that tight in will also block. You've got 84 in there. You've got 10 trying to work in there and clean people up. Like 85. Like all these guys are willing participants in the run game,

which is so important when you think about generating explosive runs versus just a quality run. And then I thought our backs at a heck of a job sticking their foot in the ground and getting vertical in some of these zone schemes. But I mean, the amount of movement we had, I want to say, I want to tell you that we had a touchdown. it was out the six-yard line. I want to say it was Monongai, and it was like,

I don't think he got hit until the one. Like, that's insane in the National Football League to be at the six-yard line and our running back not get hit until the one-yard line. Like, normally, you guys know. Those are where we're trying to scheme something up to, like, pop an easy one

because it's so hard to move people. And we had two thick double teams that move those dudes, you know, back into the end zone. And I just think that's incredible stuff when you really start diving into it. Pretty amazing. Tim, thanks for watching all 89 plays for us.

We appreciate. Could you rank them for us real quick before we let you go all 89? Or just send us the transcript if you could. Yeah, I will. I'll get you the Excel sheet that I was working on, which I got to be honest. I know AI is going to, I think, take everybody over or whatever it is.

But shoot, man, it's been real helpful for me actually building the spreadsheet because I'm just a dumb football coach. So I plug it in a chat and I go, hey, organize this for me and it does a good job. But no, it was fun. It's another great week. I also think it's great that we're coming on and we're talking about backup quarterbacks and how effective they are because we had a long time of coming on here and being like,

hey, do we have any quarterbacks in Chicago? So I think I'm happy that we're through that phase for now. Tim, that's been my whole life. So trust me, for some of us, this is like really amazing what's happening. And quite frankly, a little bit overwhelming. Tim, we'll talk to you next week. Thank you. Thanks, guys.

Thanks, Tim. Tim Jenkins founder and CEO of Jenkins Elite. And you can watch Tim's full Caleb, oh, not Caleb Williams. That would be a Tyson-Bagion breakdown on video, a breakdown video on his YouTube channel at all things QB. Coming up next on the show, did White Sox designated hitter Tommy Fam have every reason to believe he hit a home run in game one of the ALDS?

Let's explore that next on Rahimi and Groh. on 104-3 the score. Rahimi and Grody. Hey, pay attention. Midday, 10 a.m. to 2 on the score. Tommy fan who only appeared in a handful of games during the regular season for the White Sox, but he drills this one to left field.

It is caught up against the wall by Martinez. An opportunity for a double play. Throw to first in plenty of time. Miguel Vargas thought that ball was either gone or off the wall on Hill Martinez came up with a catch highlight courtesy of TBS that's from game one

of the American League Division series where the White Sox eventually beat the Guardians three to nothing. That long ball or near long ball occurred in the sixth inning. Tommy Fam robbed of what would have been a three-run Homer and it turned out to be kind of disastrous

because it was a double play maybe because Tommy Fam went into a home run trot and maybe me Miguel Fargus was fooled by seeing him do that and that he was doubled off as you just heard from the highlight. And then we get this story in the Sun Times from Jeff Agress says White Sox Tommy Fam confronts MLB commissioner Rob Manfred about the baseballs. I can't be hitting no doubters, man, and not helping them getting out, fam said, probably half joking and half serious. How am I supposed to get a job next year if that ball don't go out? close quote from Tommy fam,

thinking the balls may have been Layla deflated? Well, I do think that Major League Baseball uses different batches of balls. And this is something that I touched on in transition with our morning show with Hahn Payton because we saw a stretch of games this past year where

it overrode even the warmer, more humid weather that'll carry a ball. You know, the 17 runs scored by the Cardinals against the Cubs. And the Brewers, a couple days later, scoring 22 runs themselves. And then the Cubs had a 20 burger. And there was a stretch where even the people who studied the balls,

famously Dr. Meredith Wills, who's an astrophysicist, suspected something was going on. Fam in a breakdown, thanks to John Boy, was caught on camera lip syncing. Well, not lip-sinking. They were lip-rating his reaction because based on the exit velocity and based on where that ball traveled, yeah, it usually would go out. Let's take a listen. Tommy fam just hit this ball and it should have been a two run, home run up and over the wall. Instead, it falls short.

It's caught. And instead of adding two runs to their lead, the White Sox get out twice. He doubles them off first base. The pitchers fire. Ooh! Pitchers fired up. Tommy Fam is perplexed. He's like, what?

Huh? 106? Huh? Pull side? And he's not wrong to be that confused because every single ball in the 2026 season that was hit with an exit velocity of 106 miles per hour and a launch angle of 31 degrees, the exact ball Tommy Fam just hit to the pole side was a home run and was a home run easily. So I guess it's just FU weather in Cleveland. Now, everything I think in this is tongue and cheek and even in agress headline, it said, quote, confronts, in quotes.

That's the whole point. It wasn't really some sort of heated confrontation. Well, we all know tone gets lost on social media. And 17 hours ago, Tommy Fam replied to talking baseball, which is part of John Boy in that post that we mentioned, and said, for Jeff

Agrest and he adds him to report this like I wasn't joking and smiling about it, which their video, which there may be video to confirm, just shows the clickbait reporter, you Jeff Agrest, are a real loser for clicks and you won't be allowed around my team. I'll make sure no one will take a report from you.

His team. The one that he just got on. Fam's got that kind of power, huh? But here's the thing is, is he, I did, I think everybody took it as a joke, knowing Tommy Fam's situation, but then also understanding he had a point. You really believe that the juice is loose from the baseballs at this one? Here's my question. I think the ball don't like.

When the math indicates that you hit a ball 106, rate times time equals distance, that's what this is. Why do you think, why would baseball do that now, though, for the postseason? This is their showcase. This is everything for Major League Baseball. Why wouldn't they want the balls to be a little bit more juiced in home runs because that's what people like? People still like offense and scoring. It doesn't make sense to me why the balls would be deflated or whatever the word is you want to use. That doesn't make sense to me.

That's been the whole question is what motivates them. what points where they want to change the ball? Cold or weather? Why would you do it now? They won't talk about it. So that's part of it. I don't think he's wrong in asking the question because they control the ball production now. And there are other people who have spent a lot of time studying this.

They get people to send them the ball. They cut it open. They see what the weight is, how tightly it's wound. And this all affects, it does affect people's money. But I don't think, Tommy Fam has ever read to be upset or wasn't a home run. You don't let one last beat you twice. as it did in that play where the double off happens and you're in a double play.

Yeah, Vargas. But the other part of this is he also may have a point there just based on math alone. But I don't think anybody was taking him out of context. Yeah. No, it's just odd to me that if that you're right. Like the math is the math. Why baseball would choose now to not have the baseball's juiced is a little bit odd to me. I mean, did I think it was ridiculous that an elevator pitched

work to have him in a crucial September series against your division rival who ultimately ended up winning the division convinced the GM to take you off of the injured list and back clean up? Yes. But did you hit a home run? He did. Was it also your first hit of the season? Yes.

I was very surprised when we did not hear from you on the text thread when Tommy Fam came up in the sixth inning before Brayden Montgomery and hit a shallow pop-up to left field with men on base. You controlled yourself. You kept yourself, you kept it all in perspective in that moment. It was also a Saturday game where we just kind of got to watch the game. Like we're not talking about it the next day.

I'm talking about yesterday's game. Oh, yes. Yeah, because he came up. He popped. I'm sorry. I was thinking about the original.

I got you. I'm confusing you. But it was yesterday's game before Brade Montgomery. He was the second out of the inning. I was like, three, two, one, Layla,

and it never came. You know, left me a little empty to be honest with you. So I kind of felt like I was playing with a bit of house money yesterday. Okay. They'd already gotten the win in Cleveland. They were down 02. You're facing a guy who, like we said, had the most strikeouts in the American

League in the regular season. Gavin Williams struck out 11 yesterday in the White Sox who won the game. Yeah. That probably does not happen often. But, I mean, I'll give math credit where it's due. The math don't lie on that. Heard coming up next. we are going to bring in a bear defensive tackle.

Neville Gallimore joins Rahimi and Grody next on 1043, the score. Shout out backpack with the fat back. Neville Gallimore joining us on our video stream to watch. Search the score Chicago on Twitch and on YouTube. And this segment with Neville Gallimore is presented by Redfin Own the Dream. It's Rahimi and Grody. And we are again happy to welcome in Neville Gallimore, the Bears defensive tackle. Neville, what's going on?

How are you? Hey, how we doing? How we doing? Good to see you guys once again. Absolutely, man. Good to see you. We are always happy in weeks coming off of Bears' wins, and you guys did it again,

taking down the Jets at Soldier Field, 23 to 12, and some of the numbers are eye-popping on both sides of the ball, but let's talk about your side of the ball and the fact that you guys held that team, the New York Jets, to 157 total yards. And I'm sure you take a lot. out of pride and the fact that they only rushed for 59 yards. What was going so well in that game against the Jets?

Neville? Again, I think the biggest thing that we try to do is week in and week out is how can we improve from last week, you know, how can we, you know, do what we say we're trying to do and obviously, you know, be as effective as, be as effective as possible, obviously stop in the run because, you know, they got great running backs, got a great, you know, great offense as well. But, you know, just making sure that we're locked in and what we need to do as much as possible.

I think we did that. But again, you know, being a student of the game and a competitor, I'm always going to say, like, you know, as good at what it sounds like, you know, there was definitely some opportunities that, you know, again, if I could take back, I share the rest of us to play that game. We're trying to play. But I still feel like, you know, we're taking a step in the right direction

and, you know, it showed up on Sunday. Our segment with Neville Gallimore is presented by Redfin, the dream. And Neville, I know you talked about the run defense a bit to have 0 for 7 2 on third downs. The fact that they only had seven third down opportunities as a team, it was just stifling in every way possible. If you had to describe it, whether it's a run fits or whether it was the secondary locking guys down so you could be more comfortable at front, you know, how would you describe just the synergy of the position groups working to make that outcome happen? I feel like, you know, communication.

I feel like the thing that, another thing I love about this group is that, you know, there's no disconnect from, you know, the secondary artery all the way down to the D-Line. And I feel like it helps, you know, when you're going into the game knowing that everybody is on the same page, you know. And I feel like that works, you know, as something that, you know, that's kind of an advantage for us. And I feel like it's something that we're still trying to strengthen and build. but I feel like, you know, Sunday was just an example of what happens when everybody's on the same page and bought in and, you know, have common goals. And I feel like, you know, you get to see the results of that. Does it feel like some of the coaching and the messaging that Dennis Allen was providing for you guys? And I'll never forget it.

Like, coming back this year, I think it was during OTAs or one of the first times Dennis Allen spoke to us, he was talking about getting back to the fundamentals and they put pressure on themselves to coach better. Do you think that you're feeling some of that message that you guys receive from Dennis Allen from day one? Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, one of the main takeaways that, you know, really stuck with me, you know, that Coach Allen always harps on,

it's not necessarily like, you know, what we do, you know, what the cause is, how we do things. And I feel like with everything, like our approach to the game to practice is, you know, we're trying to chase that standard and that style of play in terms of, you know, no matter, you know, what's being called at our mentality. And from a technical standpoint, it's sound that we're able to execute. I feel like, you know, especially being at this level, man, everybody's gifted. Everybody's, you know, an athlete, everybody brings so much to the table. but you know when you can match great coaching with a style of play that we're trying to attack, you know, every, every opportunity you get, I think it marries together, you know, in a great way. Well, and what are some of the examples? Like, we heard Coach Allen talk about the fundamentals, you know, is it a first step off of the line? Is it certain techniques with your arms or your hand moves that you want to use? You know, I've seen, for example, Neville Austin Booker last year, I thought he got really good at just some of his finishing moves with his arms, his upper body.

Can you name something that you think that they've done really well in trying to reinstate with the Bears defense? You know, the biggest thing that our point is stance. You know, how can we get in an efficient stance? You know, how consistent we can be in regards to that. I feel like, you know, our D-Line coaches, coach, our JG, coach Bill Johnson, you know, they've done a great job in terms of making sure that we constantly homing on the fundamentals. It's not a day, not a practice. is that goes by that we're not focusing on the main thing is

efficiency of a stance, strike, strong hands, being violent at the point of attack. Before we watch anything, before we look at you know, you know, assignment, you know, we look at, you know,

how efficient is our stance, how efficient we are in our movements. And I feel like, you know, being in the league seven years, you know, I haven't been a part of that. And it's, And I can, I'm starting to see, and I feel like as a whole, we're starting to see the benefits. You know, it's kind of like, you know, chop wood, carry water, chop wood, carry water mentality. And I feel like that's definitely helping out.

And we're only getting better. We're only improving from that. Well, I feel like that's a big deal is because even when you watch other NFL games, like I'll go back to the game on Thursday night, for example. You know, we've got the Steelers and the Brown's pretty competitive game. And you'll see D. lineman look like they need a rest in that fourth quarter. I do not know how that. feels. I can imagine it is very

tiring, but you can see when guys try to take a knee when they can and try to save their energy. And I would think that that stance aspect really can help you late in a game if you're efficient with your movement in the beginning of it. No, no doubt. And again, you know, the one thing, just

like any other position, when you're comfortable and you're in an efficient stance, typically, you know, you're setting yourself up for a positive play rather than a negative play. You give yourself a chance. And again, And being a pro, I think the constant, you know, not necessarily battle, but the thing for me is, you know, is the discipline in that because there's a benefit of that. And I feel like with our group is great because we never get comfortable doing, you know, or, you know, get tired of doing the same things, especially if it's beneficial to us.

And I feel like it's always great when you got a group that's on the same page and just wants to get better. So if that's what we got to do, we're willing to do just that. And, you know, it's starting to show up on the tape. That is the voice of Bears defensive tackle. Neville Gallimore, joining us right here on Rahimi and Grotie on 104.3, the score. I don't think you guys had to worry about being tired in this past game. The time of possession was hilarious in this one. The Bears had the ball 42 minutes and 45 seconds.

You guys only had to be on defense for 17 minutes and 15 seconds. I think it was Devin Bush who said that he was bored or that it was like the easiest game that he's played in. how much how delightful is that when the the complimentary football is being played the way it was by your offense you know i think i think it's it was great it's a great day and you know kind of like i said before um when you're a part of a team that has a great offense and like i say you look at you know even with you know what Caleb had to go through what the performance case put on a couple weeks and what Tyson did coming back it just goes to show like you know how a fact perspective, you know, our offense is. So when you have a day like that where offense can hold on to the ball, you know, defense, we can do our job to get the ball back to the offense. I feel like it's a great day, you know, and I get a chance to go up against his offense every day. You know, I've been going against them since about March, April, and going up against all three quarterbacks. So it's no fluke. And, you know, Coach Ben, he's cooking up something special. So when those guys are able to do that, I know that was a great day for them. I know that

Those guys were on the field for a long time. But that's typically what you want. Whenever you get your offense to be out there longer than the defense, that's typically a good day. I have to ask you about this because we saw your commentary. I said there was going to be one bear week at least this past week because of Fat Bear Week in Alaska. And I saw that the Bear social media team went around the locker room.

And they asked you guys to congratulate the Fat Bear Backpack, who you also lovingly referred to as Fat Back. Did you know about Fat Bear Week? What did you think about this? I thought they were trolling for a second. I thought they were trying to be silly. And then even after they showed me the picture, I actually looked it up.

I was like, oh, wow, like this is a thing. Like, you know, that's pretty cool. I wasn't expected that, but again, shout out to him. Do you guys know by chance? How long has this been going on? Is this like been a couple years? like past 20, 30 years, or we just... I'm not sure how long we've been doing.

I think it's been going on at least 15 years. Oh, okay. Because his mom, his mom also won Fat Bear Week, one week. Oh, runs into family. Gotcha. What was your line? What was your line? T.J. was very judgmental, by the way.

T.J. was like, oh, he's gone overboard. What was Neville's, what was your line? Fat, backpack, back, fat, fat, bear... I, look. I probably was just going with the flow. You might have to run that back. Hopefully somebody took that. Stand by.

Stand by, Neville. Here we go. Our crew is on top of this. Here it is. Oh, my goodness. Backpack. And I'm giving me words of encouragement. Like I hope you win.

Oh, he won. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yo, shout out backpack with the fat back. So proud of you. Keep eating, man. Like, you know, well-deserved. Keep going.

And, you know, many more fat. Fatback Awards. Backpack with the fat pack. Sounds like that's a bar right there. I don't know if you heard the little flow there. I thought the flow was good. That's exactly what I was thinking right there, man. I mean, you might need to put some rhymes together, man.

Yeah, man, you know. How do you feel about salmon? Are you a fan of salmon? Because that's what they're eating for Fat Bear Week. I do like salmon. I do like salmon a lot, actually. So it kind of goes hand in hand. Again, shout out fat back, man.

Heck yeah. Going again. Shout out fat back. You had to have heard at Soldier Field, if not at Soldier Field, in other venues. There's a little chant that goes on. And it's a little something called Green Bay Sucks. Are you, Neville? And again, you just got here, man.

You're fresh to the Bears, but are you starting to get, understand what Bears Packers is all about, my friend? look so absolutely so when i um you know i backtrack i got a chance to go to um the world cup match i think it was um england versus um i forget who they play it was the first one was in dallas and i got to realize like how hectic you know these guys were chanting like a team that they won't even plan since i've gotten to chicago yeah it's either been to bear down good better best chat followed by a green bay sucks every game that i know i know when he played four games but to hear green bay sucks and we're not even playing green bay

you know it's for these games probably lets me know how intense it is and and i love it man it's it's it's like if you ever been a soccer game it's it's it's electrified it's insane And Chicago's fans once again has reminding me how intense they are and how intense is robbery is. Like literally we scored touchdown or we get to stop. Even his past game,

Green Bay sucks. I'm like, wow. Yeah. Okay. Like, when in doubt, man. Yeah, it's a different beast over here. And I'm actually looking for, I'm happy to be a part of this robbery.

It's going to be a good one. But yeah, Chicago fan, man, man. you never cease to amaze me. Well, and then I know George McCasky, if you're into Harry Potter, has been referring to them as Team Voldemort, and I know he radicalizes the rookies. Did you get any trading upon coming to the Bears about the Packers from George? I've heard.

I've heard. I'm not going to go into too much detail, but I know that it's real. Like this game coming up, you know, but we got to, you know, There was some words, man. Look, like I said, you know, we don't like them. They don't like us.

We got a job to do this weekend. But, yeah, I didn't really, no. Just a player, man. I don't want to get too involved. Got to put it off the field. But, yeah, it's intense, man. You got to make sure we're on the job, man. You're hilarious because I like that you're already saying,

we don't like them and they don't like us. You're catching. And actually, I don't know if you caught on to this, even when you weren't here. before. I don't know what players talk about, but we think the relationship between Ben Johnson and Matt LaFleur is particularly hilarious because it's pretty clear Ben Johnson, your head coach is not a big fan of Matt LaFleur. And he did say in the locker room last year bleep the Packers, which probably didn't really please the bosses because they don't like those F-bombs being

thrown around. But have you noticed, have you noticed the flare, the intensity that Ben Johnson has for Matt LaFleur and for the Green Bay Packers? Has he made his mess? message clear to you. Well, you know, that's my head coach. I'm sticking beside him. Oh, yeah. That's what we are. That's what we are.

So, but, you know, again, that's another thing I love about, you know, Coach Johnson, man. It's borderline. It's like a player that had to be like a head coach. Like the way he approaches coaching is the same way like a player, like approaches the game in terms of, except he doesn't get to physically put his hands on guys. but, you know, he gets to do it, you know, through us. So his intensity, the way he goes about it, like, I got nothing but love for it. So, yeah, like, you know, it's one of those deals where it's like, if you didn't know, you know, what it was, like, you know, now.

And, you know, I love Coach Benford for that. And that's him every day of the week. So, you know, for, you know, that's, you know, he feels that way. We as an organization as a team, you know, we got a job to do. We feel that way. We got to go handle our business. You know, that's just what comes with it. It's what comes with these robberies.

We know what time it is. They know what time it is. We got to get to it. Well, and then I know it's also Texas OU weekend, which you've been a part of in your career. OU Texas weekend to you. So. Boomer.

Exactly. So, I mean, you know, and that's half of the stadium hating the other half. It's not going to be split like that in Green Bay, but I think you can draw some parallels. Yeah, no, absolutely. And, you know, it's what we call it. You know, it's Texas hate week.

Boomer sooner. You know what I mean? all my Oklahoma Sooners stand up. We know what time it is. And what I love about these games, it doesn't matter what the record is. It's zero, zero. You know, it's go time this week, and I'm excited.

I know my Oklahoma Sooners are going to do what they got to do and get the job done. I'm riding with them right around, man. You got a lot of hate. You got a lot of hate you got to fill up this week, man, for them and for the Packers. I hope you can bring all that. That's what comes with it.

We've got a few texters too now. Like the soccer heads are out and they're wondering, is a level of soccer fan? Who does he root for? Or were you just into the World Cup? So the only reason why, so the funny thing is I don't know even know how. Probably going to get a lot of,

you know, a lot of hate for this as well. When I was a kid, I was a Todd numb Hotspurs fan only because the team that I played for in Canada, Ottawa, they were the Pee and Hotspurs. besides the point. I got family in England.

Okay. You're legit. That's all right. Yeah. So I think I want to say we were rocking with Arsenal right now. So I just kind of became a fan. You know, wherever my fans are there in England, that's who I'm rocking with. So I want to say, I believe we are Arsenal fans, England fans. So that's where I'm rocking. Yes. Okay. I didn't get a chance to go to, pardon me? I was going to say, I don't know soccer well enough to know.

Like, why do you feel like you need to apologize for that? Like, do people hate that team? See, I'm a type of person. I like to do my research. When I become a fan on something, I want to know the history. So I know I want to say, I believe it's Arsenal Liverpool. They got a lot of ancient history when it comes to the beef. Okay.

And I don't want to say my family's one thing and then their other because then all of a sudden I'm getting a phone call or a message on WhatsApp that's going, you know, going crazy. And I'm trying to hold them down right now. So I just know for England, we team England. and I'm pretty sure they, as in we, are Arsenal fans. I love it. I love it. Neville, thank you so much, man. Good luck. Enjoy Bears Packers Week

and get yourself to win at Lambeau Field this Sunday, will you? Come on, we're going to do it, man. Let's do it. Thank you guys. Thanks again, Neville. And sooner back to you. All right. There we go. It's Neville Gallimore, Bears defensive tackle. This Friday, speaking of Bears, Bears, Packers join the score at world famous Brat Stop in Kenosha for the return of the Brot Bowl. Previewing Chicago versus Green Bay.

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Willie-nilly wagers? What? Yeah, I want Rami back. Oh, the Mac. If they were really serious about this, we'd get Rami back. Well, won't... Winter gets Rami. Tommy will be broadcasting there with us at that time.

Yeah, but I'm tired of him being against us. I'm tired of him being up there. Like, we know where you're supposed to be. Oh, you want to bring him home. Yeah. You want to bring Robbie home. Who we trading? Yeah, exactly.

Where's he, where's he's hosting? I have a no trade cause. What are you doing here, Leila? No, no, that's it. Evening host? You put him on overnight? I just, we need Rami back. In some way, shape, or form.

In the fold. Okay. Yeah. I mean, he's on with us a lot, but it's not enough. Yes, the Rami Macloff. He's a double kid. I don't consider it. Maybe Rami would have a say in this, I guess.

Rami, the most hilarious thing. Whether or not his fate wants to be decided by a random regular season game that wasn't even good enough for 325 and got flex to noon. But something should be on the line here, aside from just bragging rights for a while. All right. Like 50 bucks? I'm always willing to throw 50. Why do you want to bet so much money?

Wait. Always 50? Hold on. What if we just bet with Rami? And then, like, do we even pay each other? Is there like a wink and a nudge there? With Rami? We know Grody's got this $50 bill burning a hole in his pocket. Oh, always. Yeah. If I bet. I'd say, take the North stipend there. Y'all keep downloading, take the North. Oh, we appreciate that. T.T.N. Also, we got to ask Neville about David Garard at some point, because you know, that was an inspirational figure to him. That's right. Well, we learn a little something every week.

A case of Spotted Cow. That's not a bad idea. I don't know. Block of cheese. Maybe not Rami's entire career future. Also, maybe our boss would have something to say about it. But we'll figure it out. We will. And let's, uh, let's keep-

This game wasn't good enough for 325. Our colleague's entire future will be determined on this game. Save Rami. That's what we're trying to do. Shout out to Rami McLaugh. Let's keep this Bears Packers hype going. As long as we're talking bears and Packers, let's continue to do that by, by listening to some of the

participants like Matt LaFleur. Wait till you hear what Luther Burden has to say. Wait till you hear what our very own Jared Payton has to say. What about, I think we should bring back the Jonah Jackson from yesterday. What about Jonah Jackson? What about Danks? What about Jackson

Wiggins? What about Assad? What about Assad is right, Mark Grody. Javier Assad. That's what it's going to be. Javier Assad will be the opening day starter for the Cubs next year. Just to keep everybody happy. X and Wiggins will be number two.

And they're going to roll them out with Tyson Bajon to start the game. That's Bajun to you, by the way. And somebody said Grotie was wearing, wearing Brewer's colors. Well, they also were Padres colors. Did you ever think about that? This is, before they went back to the brown and gold.

They also had, they also had Navy and gold. I didn't realize I'd been called out for wearing Brewers colors. I didn't realize I wasn't until now. It's a Cody's public shirt. It's fine. It's great.

It's an amazing shirt. That's a, Cody's is about as Chicago as he gets, by the way. Chicago neighborhood bar. So stop it. Stop it. Stop it. I just think we need to save Rami. Okay. We'll save Rami. All right. Maybe we don't put a football game on it, I guess.

It's Rihimi and Grotie on 104-3, the score. Green Bay sucks chance. Really more prevalent than they've ever been in my life in terms of them breaking out everywhere and anywhere, no matter the time or the context. It's crazy what we've been seeing is we welcome me back to Rahimi and Grotie on the score. I'll say this, Lela, in my... sports fan career, the Green Bay, there's a few teams in my life that I have hated.

And the Green Bay Packers are one of them. I don't have the same genuine hate that I had for them when I was younger. It's just the way life is. I hated the Detroit Pistons. I hated the New York Knicks. I hated the Cardinals. I hated the Mets. Those are all the teams. The Packers were the one team that I, and I don't know like this is not really a good thing to talk about. about, but I rooted for Brett Far, when he would get injured, I'd be like, yay, he's injured. I wanted him to get hurt on the field. I did not hope the best for, I know, it's a horrible thing. The way you say.

I know. I wanted him to get hurt on the field. It's an admission. Yeah, I didn't, you know, not outside, nothing serious, but I was like, well, I mean, he's got court and stuff, so there's that. Yeah. Your revenge ended up being exacted later. Right.

People aren't going to get canceled me and get mad at me because I said I wanted Brett Farrb to get injured. Certainly not around here. People got my back. Fred Favre, no, no. Also, there was a healthy hate for Brett Favre and Aaron Rogers nationwide. That's true. That's a great point. Right. Yeah. That was, if you observed NFC teams, you didn't care for either one of them or Reggie White for that matter. It's a safe team to hate. I'm in a safe place with the rest of the people. But you know, it's all fun and games. James, the hate that was directed toward the fan base of the team that, you know, had the quarterback saying, I own you at Soldier Field and whatnot.

But then suddenly people got so much more defensive and so much more searching for mentions of Green Bay sucks and so much more. And, you know, like the scores comments and all these other radio stations that weren't actually their own when the Bears started to turn the tables and flip the script. Yeah, they have, and it's meant everything in terms of the revival of the rivalry. Ben Johnson is the other big part of it. And like I always say, like it hasn't been this way in terms of the trash talk, literally since the 1980s when you had Mike Ditka going up against Forrest Greg and the dirty Packers.

But let us listen. We have selected some prime audio for you to build up to this game. Yeah, that's right. We're doing this on a Tuesday. Matt LaFleur is the head coach of the Green Bay Packers. We know how Ben Johnson feels about him. He met with the media yesterday and was asked about the Bears and the Packers rivalry. Obviously with Bears Week, you are who you are and their coach is who he is.

But it feels like fans really want there to be kind of this trash talking back and forth. Why is it so important to you to stay kind of even keeled and not treated as a vastly different game, even though it's a division game and it's a rival? Because this game is about players, and so we'll keep it about the players. You know, I'm not the one out there playing. So I think that's always been my mentality, and we're going to keep it about those guys.

And don't get me wrong, I love the rivalry. It's awesome. It's great. It's intense. You can feel it on game day. You can feel it throughout the course of the week. And also the significance, I mean, they're the defending North champions.

So what a great opportunity, great challenge for us in our home stadium to play against the defending champs. Okay, there hot shot. Apparently he's got a halo over his head. Did you hear him saying that? It's about the players. Was that a shot at Ben Johnson? I think it was. But also, I'm trying to look up the stats because they lost two double digit leads to the Bears last year.

So it kind of was also about the coaches because I don't know if all extendo full. had, you know, had that opportunity. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have blown either of those leads. Oh, man. And yet here we are. I might, that the wild card game from last year has been just sitting in my DVR. I see it when I go through. I might give that game a viewing tonight just to feel good.

I was trying to find that CBS graphic when they had pointed out that the other two double-digit leads, the Packers lost, were against the Bears. than it was today question marks. And I was like, wait, what Bears fan is running this graphic? That's hilarious. But it is, it is just as much whether or not it was a good answer for what it was attempted to be. And I think Maliflor is a good coach.

But I also think this is very much also about the coaches. I'm sorry you're not chilling next to Maddie Bufluz at a Marquette basketball game anymore. And it is kind of taboo to go after other coaches in the first. fraternity that is the NFL this aggressively. And Sean McVeigh kind of distanced from it the next week, if you'll recall, because he is part of the LaFloor. LaFleur is part of the McVeigh tree.

Yeah, well, Ben seems to be okay with McVeigh. But I listen to. Yeah, but I don't know that McVeigh is okay with any of it. Yeah, right, right. He's, well, he's earned it, man. Come on. Guys won a Super Bowl. He can take whatever high road he wants.

Yeah, that's the point. Also, he is one. the offense does mirror a lot of what Sean McVeigh does, the Bears offense. Yep, no doubt. I listened to the entire Bears Zoom yesterday with Luther Burden. And Luther wasn't really playing much of the time, short answers and really wasn't getting into the whole, there's probably three or four rivalry questions

and really wasn't playing along until the very end as Luther Burden met with the, the media and explain the mindset Ben Johnson has implemented for the Bears about the Packers rivalry. I feel like you want to beat them really bad like everybody else in the room. Everybody, every

Chicago fan. We just want to beat them real bad and make him quit. Make him quit. Right there at the end. He comes through finally. And that was Weeter who has to finally comes through in the clutch there at the end. It was a very subdued media session

from Luther Burden. Yeah. Yeah. Well, It was. He's an assassin on the field, but quiet off of it. No, he's an interesting guy. He's an interesting character to interview. He's a straight shooter. And sometimes that works for reporters and sometimes it doesn't. I've run into the same challenges with Luther Burton. But let's move on here. So we get through all these cuts. Our very own Jared Payton of the Haw and Peyton show was talking about what Bears Packers week was like in his house. Of course, his dad is Walter Payton. Speaking about a rivalry that runs deep, and we're talking about deep. And I went back just to thinking about this rivalry in my household back in the day. Like, during Packer Week, my dad would not talk around the house. He was that locked in. So it made everybody, everybody uncomfortable around my house in South Barrington. No one would talk.

We'd be sitting at dinner and just sitting there and everybody's quiet because he was so locked in because he knew how much this meant not only to the franchise, but also to the city of Chicago. And so that is where my hatred of that team from up north has come from. Because his dad wouldn't talk to him because of the damn Green Bay Packers. I just listen, observe, and take notes. You know, I'm relatively new to all of this. I had my own reasons to hate the Packers growing up as a Cowboys fan.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, Brett Farvin and Aaron Rogers. It was a great rivalry. Thorns in my side. That was such good football with those two teams back then, I have to admit. Do. And then finally, finally, finally, Bears Guard, Jonah Jackson made his weekly appearance with Spiegel and Holmes yesterday and discussed his mindset heading into Packers Week. You approach it like every week.

You know, it's a rivalry, obviously. There's some more weight to it and, you know, stadium's going to be a little bit crazier. But, you know, you got a rivalry every week. You got to win every game. So, you know, you put your best foot forward and obviously hope for the best outcome, but this week definitely holds a little more weight and not just with us players and coaches and, you know, throughout the entire building. So it's going to be fun.

It's nice to hear that out of Jonah Jackson. But at the same time, if there were ever somebody who I think would put all of his aggression into the Packers, it's probably him. he and Darnel Wright just takes some people down. I like that. Moe them down. Oh, yeah, man. For your pure motivation.

Yeah. I also like that he questioned why Green Bay Road is named Green Bay Road in Lake Forest. Oh, that's going to be a how many bears segment. It has to be, right? That's heroic stuff like all the years that players have been seeing and going down Green Bay Road on the North Shore. Like, we've all had to deal with it as a matter of fact. It's about time.

somebody brought this up. I'm just going to throw this out there though. It's not fun unless both teams are good. This one side had to stop. So take your licks. And lose. The score and Redfin early access want to know which bar

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Own the Dream. Coming up next, Sam Antanachi of the White Sox goes viral for sneaking an ice cream cone in during ALDS game one. We shall discuss that next on Rahimi and Grotty on 1043, the score. Who likes the pack? Rahimi and Grotty. Midday's 10 a.m. to 2. On Chicago's sports radio, 104, 3, the score.

I eat the ice cream. All about myself. Nobody else eats. Eat the ice cream. What? Rahimi and Groti, 1043, the score. A little change up in that. You love this Sam Antonacci going viral for sneaking ice cream into ALDS.

Game one. I just love the IDGAF of all of it. Like how the ridiculous the White Sox are at all times. I don't give it. Oh, yep. There's a, I don't know how to put it. It's a, it's just vibe is not the right word or is not the right word. Nantzance.

Is that the proper? I mean, when you talk about a team playing loose, it's them. There's not even a question. And they've just been getting away with this forever. WGNTBs does bring it. the story. Josh Friedman asked Sam Antanachi what he was doing during

this big moment in the White Sox 3-0-0-0-win over the Guardians. Again, ALDS game one. You'll hear Miguel Vargas's thoughts on what Antonachi was doing. How'd you Grut Moonay when he returned from his home run? I was actually in the cage. Oh, no.

Yeah. I was eating an ice cream cone, so yeah, I was like either ice cream cone help the score runs or hell if my name would have been called i was eating an ice cream clown i probably probably would have been in the doghouse but maybe i'll have one tomorrow i think mune's going to need you every time he's at the plate to be eating ice cream now yes sam is a child he you know like we need to put somebody on control on him because he get out of control sometimes like that like taking ice cream

going as a Spider-Man to the theaters and stuff, like tripping on the dog out the other day. He's just a child. And we need to take more care of him, too. The adults in the room have to rein them in. Yeah, yeah. He needs to grow up at some point, you know, like he's 23. So hopefully when he turned 24, he's starting, like, grown a little bit more. Josh Ryden, tremendous reporting.

Yeah, shout out to Josh. This is not nearly as good as Mark Burley drinking before going in during the World Series and being a reliever. The best admittance, yes. Yeah. But this is hilarious. And like even the music in the background of not necessarily Miguel's interview, but Sam's comments. Like what is, is like a pleasant little samba in the background? Is it an ice cream truck sound?

It's kind of. No. And then Miguel Vargas just calls him a child. and he's dripping ice cream everywhere. Also, he accused him of being the one solely to be the one that dressed up as Spider-Man to watch the new Spider-Man movie over the summer when the rumor was that they went together, both dressed as Spider-Man because Sam Antinacci in those pictures, if it really was him, was with another Spider-Man.

Well, and then he goes, maybe Woody turns 24. You know, we all can hope for gross. Like Vargas' sense of humor is hilarious. to me. Very good. Very good delivery. Yeah, so before a little more here. Before ALDS... You're enjoying this. I am enjoying this. Before ALDS game two, Kyle Teal was asked to talk about Antonacci's midgame snack. What's the deal with the ice cream cone?

Okay. I've noticed this in my baseball career. Ice cream cones are good luck. Like, I'm telling you, like, there's hits in ice cream cones. Do they have an ice cream cones? Do they have an ice cream? ice cream machine back there or where are we getting these ice cream? No, there's like a little ice cream fridge, like, and they got like all the ice cream you could think of, so. It looks like the drumstick. You got the, yeah.

Yeah. So is he going to have one today? I'd imagine so. I hope he has a few. Hey, whatever works. Whatever works. Well, you know, the Phillies used to serve a special ice cream in the press box and at games called Graham Slam.

Oh. Mm-hmm. The Graham Slam. I did love Graham Slam. slam it was turkey hill so i think kyle teal might be on to something yeah when did the white sock because honestly like these guys have all been fun loving guys all year long but there was a time there was a point not that long ago where the white socks looked very tight like they they looked the opposite of yeah the last time they were in cleveland was it the cleveland series during the

regular season where they flipped the switch was that where they came out and said we just got to i think that was even though they weren't no no i'm thinking they were tight like the last time they were in Cleveland. Would they flip the switch and just decided to be free and easy? Yeah. Like there was a story about, I can't remember like,

Brooke Fletcher doing a whole story beforehand. I mean, she talked about the college vibe of the team. Well, that was kind of all year. But the socks were. You don't say. Maybe when he turns 24. But the socks were playing tight for, like,

they lost the division. They had the division lead. And they blew that down the stretch. and then finally they flipped the switch to being what they are now. One more cut here. Prior to ALDS game two, manager Will Venable was asked to weigh in on ice cream cones. We asked Kyle about Sam's ice cream cone and he said there's hits in ice cream cones and they're good luck. Do you agree?

If Sam says so, then I agree. I'm not aware of this ice cream situation, but I'm fully supportive of whatever these guys think is good luck. He had an ice cream cone in last week's game, and then Munay had his homer, so. Okay. Well, yeah, ice cream for everybody then, yeah. It's serious stuff here. Do you prefer a sugar cone or a regular cone if you have an ice cream cone? I haven't had an ice cream cone for, like, literally, like, perhaps years.

Ice cream for everybody then. When I partook in a cone, it was a waffle cone. Oh, that's pretty good. But I, too, like St. Mantonacci. I'm a child, and I have to childproof myself for myself. And I like to try to not make a mess. So I would go cup. Okay.

these days. Ali G. If I were to do that. You know who Ali G is, right? Ali G. Yeah, absolutely. You speak Ali G. He one time in one of his shows pitched an ice cream glove to Donald Trump before

Donald Trump was president. Simpler times. What does everybody need? Yo, it would be an ice cream glove. Like if you can get ice cream right now, right now, what's the flavor? Because Lawrence, for example, talks about Jenny's milk chocolate tasting like luxury. No, it's, it is jenny's. Their frouz is also pretty great.

Jenys has messed me up because now nothing else tastes good to me. It's all the butter, the gooey buttercake from Jenny's is. You and I are on the same page. Oh, yeah. I mean, I tried a different brand recently and I was like, oh, wow, it just doesn't have the right sugar content or something. like Jennings has ruined it for me. I don't know if there's another brand now that would be above that.

Like, I can't get anything else. It's not good. It's not good. We have a texter saying that they ran into Tony Larusa at Jennings in West Loop. Okay. Amazing. Or was it?

Jennings is for everybody. Like, we can't discriminate. Ice cream for everybody. Tony Larusa in the right context is good. As long as he's not the manager, Tony Larusso is great. According to this text, it was while he was He was managing.

Oh, well, he was the manager. I guess you know the ice cream better. I guess you know the rules better. On what planet? Is that okay to say to our reporter? Oh, man. Wait, what's you guys ice cream then? So right now, I've been eating, you know, Ben and Jerry's fish food flavor?

Oh, my God. Oh, back to our stoner conversation. Yeah. He gets high. It's sad. Me. You really want this to be Saturday suckage. And this is a whole work day.

It's a Tuesday. It's legal. Ray. I like anything chocolate, chocolate peanut butter combination. I'm old school like, you know, Baskin Robbins. I grew up right next to like, right by a Baskin Robbins. Okay. So I had a lot of that when I was a kid.

I am, I've never had Jenny. So I'm going to have to do that. Maybe don't do it because it might ruin all other ice creams for you, like it has for me. I mean, Rainbow Cone is also pretty great. It's around the corner now. Did you know that? Oh, no. Like Chicago's slowly coming to us over here,

There's a portillo's threatening to open across the street, which is going to have my salary. Rainbow cone. There's a rainbow cone right by the studio, too. I know. Like it's, yeah, why are you guys doing this to me? Trouble. I tell you what, we need to take a break. Come back and it'll be time for transition with Spiegel and Holmes.

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