Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - Mike Florio talks NFL storylines & How Many Bears? (Hour 2)

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

In the second hour, Leila Rahimi and Mark Grote were joined by Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk to discuss the latest NFL storylines, including the amendment to the discrimination lawsuit brought by f...ormer head coach Brian Flores and Packers running back Josh Jacobs being arrested on domestic violence charges. After that, Rahimi and Grote held their segment How Many Bears? Later, they conducted the Halftime segment.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who's got a massive brain. Mike Florio. He used to be a lawyer, then he decided to take his talents to the internet. NBC sports. I'm sorry, I'm late. I was talking to Robert Kraft. That is at the time for an airing of grievances. Pro football talk.
Starting point is 00:00:19 I got a lot of problems with you, people. No, you're going to hear about it. On Chicago Sports Radio, 1043, the score. I want to keep talking Legos. Well, guess what? Today is probably not the day for Lego Talk, but I'm not going to judge you if you want to have your Legos because it's a nice meditation.
Starting point is 00:00:39 It is time for our weekly visit with Mike Florio, the creator and editor-in-chief of Pro Football Talk. He is at Pro Football Talk on X, and he joins us on Twitch. Twitch.tv slash The Score Chicago. Mike has made his own graphics. He puts the fireworks up for you. Mike, how are you? We need to have some sort of a hand signal
Starting point is 00:00:59 that results in a cascade of Lego bricks. I need to work on that. Ooh, I like it. An animation, if you will. Or the thing where you set up all the dominoes and then they all fall down, like, in a row. Oh, yeah, that's a good one too. Like those things you see, like, Nickelodeon used to do stuff like that, right, where you knock down, like, a million Legos.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I'd like to see you set that up for you. Or Tetris. I feel like Tetris is the next part of the discussion here. Did you see the story about the guy who bought the really expensive Lego sets? took them home, took out the bricks, replaced the bricks with dry pasta, and then returned the sets and got a refund. Yes. Yes, I did. Delicious. Wow. That's good scamming if you can. No, they ended up pressing criminal charges, didn't they? Really? The jails are not full of smart people. I mean, it was smart until it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:01:57 And Mike, I immediately thought of you in an ongoing conversation that you and I have had. I wouldn't say patiently, but you and I have been wondering whether or not the Supreme Court was going to rule and the NFL was asking them to regarding the Brian Flores discrimination case. Yesterday, the Supreme Court declined to hear the case and now we get to hear it. Can you explain the effect of what information could come out, how the process will go, and what this means for a case that you have been very, very, very curious about. Well, first of all, Jerry Jones probably wants back the Super Bowl ring he once gave to Clarence Thomas. That was a down payment.
Starting point is 00:02:37 That was for future considerations. Apparently, not even Clarence Thomas was willing to make good on that one, allegedly. But the Flores case will now play out in court. That's the end result of what the Supreme Court decided on Tuesday. The Supreme Court only takes up a small. percentage of the appeals that are presented to it every year. So this isn't a surprise, but the net result is, yes, Flores now gets to pursue all of his claims in court, along with Steve Wilkes and Ray Horton, who are also part of the lawsuit that was
Starting point is 00:03:14 originally filed back in February of 2022. Every claim that he's made will play out in court. It'll go through the full discovery process. There will be public filings in court. If it isn't settled or dismissed, there will be a trial. that will be available for reporters to attend. So a lot of things will come out. And this is why the NFL prefers its own specific system of arbitration where not only does
Starting point is 00:03:41 the NFL run the show and make the decision, but everything is secret, everything is confidential. This stuff doesn't come to light, which tells me at some point they'll probably make Brian Flores a financial offer. He won't refuse. There you go. But until then, he has the Tiger Bodies. the tail, and he is pulling it hard. And his latest claim is that he has not been hired to be a head coach by any team over the last five cycles because of the fact that he has decided to do what
Starting point is 00:04:11 he thinks is right and sue the NFL in court along with specific teams for this pattern of racial discrimination that he believes has existed for decades and how it has affected him. And also the other claims he's made like the idea that he was offered 100,000. to deliberately lose games in 2019, and that was part of the reason why he was ultimately fired by the Dolphins. There's a lot of stuff there that's going to come out if this case goes forward to a trial in open court. Well, that's the thing, Mike, is I get the indication that Brian Flores, who is still a pretty well-paid guy, want some of this stuff to come to light. When you talk about a culture of retaliation, when you talk about what he's faced as
Starting point is 00:04:57 minority man in the NFL in a head coaching spot where as we know, you don't see a lot of head coaches who represent the players that they're coaching in that manner. And it's something that the players have talked about, of course, and we see how the Rooney Rule is more so to the, it's a formality now rather than being respected to the spirit of the law. So I'm not sure that Brian Flores, I'm not sure that money is the goal for Brian Flores right now. And I hope that it's not, I think we deserve to know what goes on in this league. And see, that's where this gets interesting, because is there a dollar figure that he just can't say no to them?
Starting point is 00:05:42 Right, right. Right. I think we all would struggle with that. It's very easy to stand on principle when there's nothing behind door number one. But when that number gets larger and larger and larger, There is, in theory, a number that no one will be able to refuse. Jim Trotter, who was fired by NFL Network for having the audacity to question the commissioner at multiple public press conferences about diversity issues in the NFL network newsroom.
Starting point is 00:06:16 He eventually settled with the NFL for a confidential sum. He had a tiger by the tail, and they made him an offer that he ultimately in good conscience could not refuse. So the NFL has an unlimited tank of money when you split it up 32 ways. $32 million settlement, for example, cost each team a million bucks. And I'm not saying it would take $32 million to settle the Brian Flores case. It may take more than that. But my point is once they recognize he's serious about pushing this forward, that's when they could, if they want to make this all go away, if they want to avoid any further expectations, delay, embarrassment, whatever that comes from this litigation, there's a number that I don't think
Starting point is 00:07:01 any of us could say no to. Well, the other part of this, Mike, as well, is that it made me wonder why the NFL was coutowing to other practices, like, for example, Florida's ruling on the Rooney Rule and measures of that nature. There's always a reason, perhaps, why they are pressing issues. Here, a lot of listeners thought that maybe the Bears not getting compensatory draft picks for Ian Cunningham's actual promotion in Atlanta was perhaps because of that. Did they feel pressure from the government? And if the NFL is asking for a favor or consideration from the Supreme Court, did that affect these other measures? Well, the political climate is a big part of this. Art Rooney, the second, the owner of the Steelers. The team that first gave
Starting point is 00:07:51 Brian Flores a job after he filed his lawsuit. When he first filed his lawsuit, I just assumed he would be ostracized and he could continue to sue for that year after year, add to the claim. I wasn't considered for a job this year. I wasn't considered for a job the next year and it just cascades into the future like those dominoes we were talking about earlier. But Art Rooney said that, you know, things have changed. And what the NFL, I believe, had tried to do before the political climate became what it is now,
Starting point is 00:08:19 they wanted to create the appearance of diversity, even if the facts, the hiring practices, painted a very different picture. And what it had become was every year at the Super Bowl Press Conference, Commissioner gets a question about the latest hiring cycle this past year was another abysmal example of the lack of diversity in the actual coaching hires. You utter the word salad, you wait for the next question, you move on, and it's almost like Groundhog Day. And it usually happens right around Brownhog Day, where you come out, you make your statement, you say we're trying. and then a year goes by and nothing changes.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Now they're in a box because of this aggressive and misguided, in my opinion, effort by the Florida Attorney General to attack their diversity practices. The best evidence, if they want him to go away, the best evidence would be to say, dude, look at the results. Look at the hiring numbers. It's not working. You can come after us for our diversity policies, but they're not effective. leave us alone. That's what they should say. They won't, but that's what they should say to get James
Starting point is 00:09:24 Uffmeyer out of their business. One other thing on Flores specifically, Mike, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming that Flores to get to the point that it has reached the Supreme Court, he's already turned down some sort of money figure or deal to make this go away. And if I'm right about that, wouldn't it seem to signal that maybe, maybe, and I get it. it. Money is money, man. And we know the NFL has it, that he can't be bought out on this, that Flores truly does want this to be out in the open for everybody to discern. I think it's more complicated than that. First of all, first of all, and this is my time spent working with firms that defend cases like this talking. They never want to leave money in the
Starting point is 00:10:11 file. So let's not settle a case too early. Let's let the case develop to a certain extent. Let's see where we are, and it would be very easy for the NFL and its lawyers who get paid by the hour, typically, to say, let's fire every shot in our in-house arbitration arsenal before we take this seriously. Let's try to force him into the procedure that we know will lead to the result we want without us having to air out our dirty laundry. And then once we have completely and finally lost that. Let's start considering our options. And their option now at this point could be, let's see this through discovery. We'll spend the money. There are plenty of corporate clients who would much rather spend twice five times, ten times on the lawyers than what it would take
Starting point is 00:11:01 to pay off and settle with the plaintiff. So I wouldn't assume there's been any settlement offer at this point. As it goes forward, that's when they're going to have to take it seriously. How much of this do we want to allow to come out? I think it's one of the big reasons why the concussion settlement, that massive class action, settled some 13 years ago before the case really got going. You know, as an entity, stuff is going to come out. Emails are going to be discovered.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Text message is going to come to light. And they're going to be out there for us to scrutinize his media, for the fans to see. And there's likely going to be something in there that will embarrass the league. That's when it has settlement value. What is out there that could make the league look bad? That's what drives the decision to put money on the table back to the original point. How much does it take to get Brian Flores to say there's no way I can reject this offer?
Starting point is 00:11:55 Well, I think the other part, though, Mike, too, is that Brian Flores already has a job. So I think if he didn't have a paying job, maybe he would be more inclined, you know, to put the information out there. That may change the calculus for him when it comes to how. he was wrong. And I wonder at what point the Vikings ownership starts to get the side eye from their business partners because they are gainfully employing this individual who is causing them collectively to spend a lot of money to defend themselves in court to face this potential for a significant verdict if his claims ultimately resonate with a jury.
Starting point is 00:12:36 There's going to be at some point some awkwardness. Now, I'm not saying that means the Vikings should move on from him. They're doing the right thing. They're doing the selfless thing. The inclination. Anytime a company gets sued, they don't like the person who has sued them. It is natural to retaliate. You have to have people of goodwill who are magnanimous enough to say,
Starting point is 00:13:00 this individual has the right to pursue their claims. And we owe it to them to create an environment where they never believe. it's being held against them. That usually doesn't happen. And for most plaintiffs, the retaliation case is stronger than the original case because it's easier to convince a jury
Starting point is 00:13:21 that this is why they're doing what they're doing. They don't like the fact that this guy is suing them. So he does have a bird in the hand. He is able to coach. And one of these days, he could get paid all the money he would have made
Starting point is 00:13:36 if he had gotten a head coaching job, dating all the way back to 2020, His original retaliation claim is against the Texans, who had made him a finalist, along with Jonathan Gannon and Josh McCown for their head coaching job in 2022. He was one of three finalists. They went off the board and hired Lovy Smith. And one of Brian Flores' claims is, I would have gotten that job if you weren't holding it against me that I just sued the league. I don't disagree, but selfishly, I'm pretty sure Levy Smith is what got the Bears the first overall pick,
Starting point is 00:14:07 which ultimately turned it to Caleb Williams. That aside. But, you know, Mike, the other wrinkle in all of this is the Giants, or the Vikings, rather, don't have a GM. Still? Still? Still? Yeah, and this is going to be a strangement because how much power will the GM have? I think that's the thing that we haven't seen resolved.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Is it going to be equal between the GM and Kevin O'Connell? Will Kevin O'Connell have more influence, more juice, more say in the organization than the GM? Basically, who's working for who? or are they working together? The best scenario in any football organization is to have the GM and the coach truly working together. If we succeed, we succeed together. If we fail, we fail together. When you have two different spheres that can point fingers at the other when things aren't going well, that leads to dysfunction. So we'll see what plays out for the Vikings. But I think that Kevin O'Connell has proven he knows what he's doing when it comes to coaching. How much influence
Starting point is 00:15:07 is he going to have over personnel? And if he gets significant influence, how will he use it and how will it go as it relates to how the Vikings look as a football team, as a roster. The coaching between O'Connell and Flores has been very good. The quality of the player maybe hasn't been what it could be in Minnesota, and that's what they're trying to rectify. Last thing I have for you, Mike, from all of that to one of the headlines here, and I believe a story written by Mike Florio, headline, more arrests made in connection with Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey Burglars. Can you get us up to date on that? story real quick? Yeah, well, there were seven people charged last year in Florida with this rash
Starting point is 00:15:45 of burglaries. It was Mahomes, Kelsey, Jill Burrow, there were other athletes from other sports. It was a very simple scheme. We know when they're not going to be home. And then they had some high-tech and low-tech ways of concealing their entrance and their exit. They'd go in, they'd grab the expensive stuff and they'd move on. So seven people were charged. The long arm of the law finally caught up with three of them in Argentina. They were sent back to Chile where they're from. They're going to be extradited to the U.S. and they're going to face these charges. But they have broken up that ring. They should have stuck to buying the expensive Lego sets, swapping out the bricks for pasta. It would have turned out better for them maybe. And then just quickly, Mike, because it is
Starting point is 00:16:26 in the division and they were so they were very shocking charges to read. Josh Jacobs, arrested yesterday morning, booked reportedly into Brown County Jail, five charges, battery domestic abuse, criminal damage to property, domestic abuse, disorderly contact domestic abuse, strangulation, suffocation, and intimidation of a victim. These are very serious charges to levy. Well, they are, and the two key aspects of this felony charge, the strangulation charges of felony, and we're talking about domestic violence. That's when, when you combine those two things, that's when the NFL is typically apt to use the paid leave wrinkle under the personal conduct policy. They'll delay that as long as they can because they don't.
Starting point is 00:17:07 don't want to make a big news story prematurely. My guess is Josh Jake's would be excused from the offseason program. And if these charges aren't resolved by the time training camp opens, that would be the moment the league would probably put him on paid leave, assuming that there is some basic evidence to support this charge. We learned a few weeks ago in this Tophon Diggs criminal trial that those charges never should have been brought. He never should have been prosecuted.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Someone in the either police. Department or the prosecutor's office should have said, we're never going to get a conviction here. What are we doing? So we have to assume that law enforcement is going to vet this thing. The NFL will do its investigation. But unless this case is resolved quickly, he, I think, is looking at paid leave at some point, possibly as soon as the start of training camp. Mike, Floreo, thanks as always. This has been incredibly informative today. Have a great week. Great talk to you. Thanks, Mike. Thank you, Mike. That is Mike Floreo, joining us on Twitch as well, the creator, editor-in-chief of Pro Football Talk. it's Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:18:09 It's time to give away bears, or in this case, adjust bear totals. Yeah, something like, it's going to get controversial today on my allotting of bears, which will happen next on Rahimi Harrison Grotie on the score. Yep. Bears. It's time for how many bears. Dylan Theteman and his family, all dressed in bears gear. This was incredible. In 2006, they are all.
Starting point is 00:18:37 wearing a Brian Erlacker jersey, except for the littlest Thineman. She has a Bears cheerleader uniform. Aw, baby. And there's two dogs in the picture. Dylan Thineman has just gone from 3.5 bears to 6.3 bears. That's a big jump right there. How many bears? I love the spirit of this that a bunch of guys, most of whom are not from Chicago,
Starting point is 00:19:02 are like, let's get down with the Chicago. They're getting indoctrinated. Let's get into it. So the fact that they are embracing Chicagoness with the Mallort, I'm going to give them 7.1 bears. It could have been more if Tommy Hadovi-Low. I heard it. The Haw brought up the old style.
Starting point is 00:19:19 The old style was rejected right off the top there. I didn't like the way he skim past the old style, or it could have been more bears. But 7.1 bears for the Mallort and the Cubs as a collective. How many bears? I said it was going to be controversial. On 104-3, the score. And the Cubs never drank the Lord again.
Starting point is 00:19:40 They haven't had any since we've done this segment. Every Wednesday, we want to do it. How many Bears? You can also submit your questions if you think Mark needs to reward a situation or a person or somebody who qualifies bears. By the way, do you know what I've learned on the lovable reunion? I don't know how much of it you've watched with Anthony Rizzo and David Ross. And I honest to God, I'm not just saying.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It's awesome. It's so good. It's amazing storytelling. Oh, it's like they are unfiltered for the most part. And one of the things that Anthony Rizzo admitted and revealed, and I mentioned it to them on inside the clubhouse, was that when they got into bad slumps and things were going poorly? A couple shots.
Starting point is 00:20:18 A couple shots before the game. Mix it up. Mix it up, yo. So I'm just saying, wouldn't be mad at the Cubs if they got the Mallort back before the game. Interesting. Can we tell, can we tell a player who's most likely to have had Mallort during the game? Who would be?
Starting point is 00:20:33 You know, we both know who would be most affected. by it on a large shot. And that would be the guy that played Settorfield. PCA would be bouncing all over the place. What's up everybody? Still my favorite, tipsy PCA after. What's up, everybody? All right. How many bears? What are we doing here? What's my first? How many bears?
Starting point is 00:20:50 Your first how many bears is, number one, what is the baseline amount of bears for Bruce Levine? And then number two, after doing this highly anticipated inside the clubhouse show with him on Saturday. How many does he get after the show? Okay. We're going to roll the tape here
Starting point is 00:21:06 to refresh people's memories here. So we are allotting, or at least I am looking at my scale, to potentially, we'll see give bears to Bruce Levine. Here's what went down. The other part, the reason for the angst in May and even in April,
Starting point is 00:21:22 is what you were asking about earlier to Ron Kumar, and that's the Milwaukee Brewers. You can't get over this team. You cannot get over this team that has been biting you since Craig Counsel was there, and then subsequently with Pat, Murphy in the recent years dramatic way. Just remember, Green Bay
Starting point is 00:21:40 sucks. They do suck and we can all I still don't have. We can do a two hours show. Yeah, let's go. Get it go. We can do two hours on me still not understanding how that breaks out at a White Sox Cup game. Okay. I don't get it. I understand
Starting point is 00:21:56 it when Milwaukee's here, okay? It's beautiful, Bruce. There's nothing beautiful to that because I can't understand. Oh, are you mad because football got injected into your baseball game? Yes, I am. Yes, I am. But I don't understand where Sox and Cubs fans actually have a moment together during a Sox and Cubs game.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Yeah. Forget about it, okay? So, wait, you weren't moved by that? I was moved off of the fact that I'm watching a baseball game and you're bringing in the NFL. It's like, NFL, you have your time. It starts the end of July. It goes forever until February 8th. This is baseball season.
Starting point is 00:22:37 It's my season. It's baseball fan season. Don't give me Green Bay sucks. Hey, Ray, cancel the Bears segment. It means nothing to me. I had a Bears segment plan. It means nothing. It's not going to happen now.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Underrated, even though we heard this yesterday, it was Bruce saying it goes on forever until February 8th, which definitively is not forever. Well, you actually gave it a deadline. Yeah, but we just talked to Mike Florio, talking NFL. It never stops. It goes on forever. It does.
Starting point is 00:23:09 It's my season. And actually, and in fact, baseball goes on forever. This is a very complicated case on my how many bears scale because Bruce did begin the topic by saying Green Bay sucks.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And then people just chatted right away. And then so we got some people at Gallagher Way. That was at Gallagher Way inside the clubhouse on Saturday. Comes for a cure day. That's where we were. That's what that was from. so I give him. He gets his five bears because he's from here automatically. And then I boosted him. When he brought up to Green Bay Sucks, I got him up to 6.5 bears. But that little rant about what galvanized this city at White Sox Park and 40,000 Cubs and White Sox fans delightfully enjoying, instead of punching each other in the face, they are chanting Green Bay Sucks.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Bruce, you lost some bears, man. You're down to 5.2 bears. So he's just barely holding on, man. Pun intended. Oh, no. Yeah. You have almost lost your grip, sir. You need to improve your attitude about bears and football in this town if you want to get
Starting point is 00:24:22 some percentage bears back. 5.2. Wow. Okay. So we have some rulings on our Twitch mob chat. Oh, really? Twitch.com. TV slash the score Chicago.
Starting point is 00:24:32 One Twitch mob member, Slim Jimithy 101, which is a hilarious name. Way too many bears for Bruce here. Five point two is too many? I don't think so. I mean, point two is not a ruling. I've heard you issue. I don't know that I've ever heard a point two of a bear. Probably not.
Starting point is 00:24:49 What is that a foot? Yeah. I mean, like, again, he gets the, I don't know. Maybe I have to amend my rulings. Does he get five automatic bears just because he's from here? can I take those away too? But he works for the score. Like he does a lot in sports for the community.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Yeah. Works for Marquis. I feel like that's at least five bears. He's been here longer than any of us and he's still doing work at a very high level. In our stupid industry. In our stupid industry. Right. And he works his ass off.
Starting point is 00:25:17 All right. 5.3. Yeah. 5.3. Five point three bears. Done. What about the people who chanted Green Bay sucks in the background there? Oh, that's, that is wow.
Starting point is 00:25:28 I'm going to, hmm. That's an eight bear situation. The fact that they were just able to pick it up in the spur of the moment right there, that's eight bears. I also have an audible to enter into the chat since we're here. You know who I thought of immediately was your conversation with our friend Antoine Randall L. Who was drafted by the Cubs and then didn't allow Culli Fremant to wear the socks hat and then decided that everybody was coming together for one good cause, as he put it, bringing peace to our nation.
Starting point is 00:25:57 And do you know that what Caleaf Raymond was then? wearing. He had a believe it was a Decatur Staley's hat. Yeah, you love that hat. I mean, that's pretty cool if I got that right. But the fact that Antoine Randalel replaced it with the bear's hat. I, um, so you're asking me how many bears for Antoine Randal L for that? I feel like Antoine Randal L gets many. He's from here. Him saying that they came together for a good cost. Antoine Randal L essentially ruling as like bear counsel. Yeah. As a bear. However, I got, we're strict here. He had, he did, I informed. him about. He did not know
Starting point is 00:26:31 about the Green Bay Sucks chance breaking out at Ray Field. Like the fact that I had to tell him that, he loses some bears, or he doesn't get as many. But he's concentrating because, as Bruce said, football season goes on forever. Okay, so now I'm giving him back for his strong
Starting point is 00:26:48 focus on bears. Yeah, Antoine Randall L is focused on the task. Seven bears for Antoine Randallel L. Well, for that situation, I feel like he gets more than that, just being himself. He's from here. He defected against Detroit and with Ben Johnson. Layla, I'm going to tell you what I told
Starting point is 00:27:03 to text her last week. All decisions are final. They're not. You took bears back from Jack Sandborn because he left even though it wasn't his fault. What if I told you about calling me out on the radio? How dare you bring facts into this conversation? Okay, 7.2, just for you Leila, 7.2 for Antoine
Starting point is 00:27:19 Randall L. Yohel, what up? 630 is a very important question. 312, 644, 64, 67, is average bar, bears above replacement, bear. Bar. 5.0. Oh, that's a good question right there. And I appreciate the bar.
Starting point is 00:27:35 It's kind of like 100 is weighted runs created plus baseline? That's like you're a dude, which are not like a big deal. Yes. And I appreciate the bar because Lawrence Holmes shot out. Alex bars, we used to always, Lawrence and I thought that was funny, we would say bars instead of bears. It is. It was our little thing. Yeah, bars, bears, another Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:27:55 So, okay, yeah. If you have, how many bears questions, feel free, 312, 6, 44, 67, 67. But there was another, unless you had a different audible you wanted to give us. No, no, I have to, I have a confession. Please. I think that I ran into quite literally a how many bears scenario. Now, this was not this week. This was earlier in the month of May.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I was not, I was, I was mall walking past people on the river wall. walk in Chicago. Beautiful place to hang. Because I like walking, but I don't like walking at a leisurely pace when I'm trying to like get around people. Right. You know, I get, and I'm not fast. So let's not, let's not say I'm wanting here.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I bet you have a very good pace. You are a quintessential city of Chicago girl walking pace. Hell yeah. Let's go. You mean Marshall have discussed this. Yes. But when it comes to, when it comes to like a running pace, no. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Like I'll spread here and there when the workout calls for it. But then I'm like, I'm not doing that again. But, you know, I run because I'm bad at it and because it's good for me. It's basically like the vegetables of my life. Cardio is good. So all of that said, I was zooming past some people and facing me was a man with curly reddish hair and mirrored shades shirtless in the vicinity of my height, also trying to zoom past people. And that's when I realized I had come face to face with Jeremy Allen White.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Bear. Bear, the bear. So close that I could smell him. He smelled like every dude who is working out. And I was like, holy crap. He needs some bear claw. And he's ridiculously in shape and probably has a smaller waist than I do. But like, it was him.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Like I knew it was him. I could tell I've watched enough episodes of the bear based on height and whatever else. Actors are always typically shorter than you think unless it's Vince Vaughan. Is he under six feet tall? Under six feet tall? Yeah. Yeah, he's probably 5'7. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:53 You know, so somewhere around. there, but he was zooming. So I ran into the bear. The bear. Carmen Bearsado is the character's name on the bear. So am I giving you bears or him? The situation. The whole situation.
Starting point is 00:30:08 It doesn't have to be an individual. I give him, by the way, like, because he's from New York, I believe. He's a New Yorker. Let's see. I believe so. And I think he's acted here for a really long time. Think about shameless. Yeah, I'm going to guess that he has a house in L.A.
Starting point is 00:30:22 and that he's from New York, if I'm not mistaken. But you are right. He's a hell of an actor. He's a great actor. He's from Brooklyn, according to the Butte. He's 35. 35 years old. He has, because I've read about him.
Starting point is 00:30:34 He's 5'7. Nailed it. There it is. Which means he's probably 5'6. I know people my height. I'm not 5.7 by any means. Let's not go there. He has, and this is one of the things that I love, and I mean this.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I love people that are not from Chicago, that discover Chicago and love Chicago and can't get Chicago out of their system, especially if you are from the metropolis of New York City, which he is. And then you can come and just be like, wow, this is a, this is an, I never knew how amazing Chicago was. And he has said stuff like that. And you said like he's been here for two shows now. He's of the people here.
Starting point is 00:31:09 He is of the people. And he was Kerry von Eric in the iron claw, which means a lot to me. Okay. Wow, the bears are starting to pile up at this. But the whole scenario, that's in the 7.8 range, 7.8 bear. Because I ran into the bear. You ran into the bear. And we were both trying to do the same thing, which was get around the people.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Yes, right, right. It was perfect that you were doing something Chicago-esque and that he was as well and his love for Chicago and his celebrity status, 7.8 bears. Also, he's fast as hell. That guy's in shape. So go on with your bad self, Jeremy Allen White. He's Jeremy. And the entire bear cast because they do a tremendous job. And if you're listening, Jeremy, call us.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Well, we had a member of the bear cast actually call our show. Oh, you did? We did. Like randomly? Yes, the man who plays a Chicago party aunt. Oh, that's right. That's right. That was with you and Dan, right?
Starting point is 00:32:05 Yeah. A guy, a fellow by the name of Dan Bernstein? Yes, yes. That was him, Chris Wittoski. And he is part of the bear cast. Withowski. Wow, that name is 10 bears. Very nice guy.
Starting point is 00:32:16 You know, very proud of being Chicagoan. So, yeah, he's part of it. Okay. Yeah, he is high on the bear scale. I love Chicago party at. Does that still exist? I don't know because he's doing these progressive commercials and the bear. Bear.
Starting point is 00:32:29 But he's great. You can follow him on Instagram. I do. And a very friendly guy. You got 10 bears from a texter, by the way. Who does? You did. That's 10 bears for Lela.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I need to be an actor and people won't know my height. L.O.L. Yeah, I can definitely overestimate your height because everybody's taller than me. I have found a special story for Mark Grady. my algorithm giveth. We're going to listen to it next. What time is it? It's halftime. We ask the question. When does it end, Cubs?
Starting point is 00:33:00 It's Pat Hughes and Marshall Harris's birthday today. Don't let them down. Don't let them down. Don't. We asked for Jordan Wicks. It was rocky to start. But I felt better about it later. The White Sox had a hard-fought loss. And not like your school telling you it was a hard-fought loss. When you guys lost 45-0, this is a real hard-fought loss. in 11 innings.
Starting point is 00:33:22 They did the thing. Mike Florio went over not just Josh Jacobs' charges, but also the impending court case between Brian Flores and the NFL. And then we played a game of how many bears? Were you revoked bears from Bruce Levine? Yeah, you should go back and listen on the Odyssey app. It was one of the more controversial editions of how many bears.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Bruce Levine lost bears. That's the headline. I mean, Antoine Wandel L might have a bone to pick with you. about how few bears you gave him. I'm very straight. He didn't know. Again, I had to inform Antoine Randallel that the Green Bay Sucks Chance broke out. Now, he gave a good response to it.
Starting point is 00:33:59 He's a bear working on the bears. And he was drafted by the Cubs once upon a time ago. I mean, that's a lot of bears. And it's a lot of bears from here. He defected from Detroit. Hey, wait a minute. He did choose Indiana to play college ball at. So you might lose a bear there too.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Why don't you go to U of I, man? Okay, okay. we'll get a ruling on that from the committee. My algorithm is started to catch on to what I like to see, which is cat videos. Aw. You know. Aw.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yeah. We love, you know, I like sending him to Grotie. I love when you send them. They're just a baby. And then I came across this from KARK in Arkansas. New at 10 nationwide's wackiest pet name awards are officially in the books. And this year, one of the quirkiest ones. Winners comes from right here in Arkansas.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Pet owners across the country submit their most creative names with more than 200,000 votes helping decide that coveted top spot. We have a knack for winning these things. We really do. Well, tonight we've got a local celebrity making headlines for a name that you have to hear to believe. Caden Michaels met the famous feline today. And Caden, what's the name that took first place? Well, Bob and Laura, I don't think you guys could ever guess this name. Cheddar Big Booty Cheeseburger.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Yes, that is the cat's name, and there is a story behind it. The sound of cheddar big booty cheeseburger. Wait, not that one. This one. The eight-year-old award-winning cat from Benton, Arkansas. But who would name their cat after a cheeseburger? Surely there's a good story behind that name. He's always just been like a little bit of a larger kitten.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And just as he started like developing into more of an adult cat, I couldn't quite pick him up anymore with like just one hand. It became two, so it was like holding a burger. So cheddar cheeseburger fit. But what about Big Booty? He started to develop just this little habit of like, I love having my butt scratch. So he would like present his butt and then it got to a point for like you would do like bongo drums.
Starting point is 00:36:01 And now I'll put together the name winning a national award for wackiest cat name. Getting that email today was a shock. It was pretty wild. I was internally screaming a whole day trying to figure out like, oh my gosh, what do I do? and no, I'm really proud of him because he definitely lives up to his name. Cheddar Big Booty Cheeseburger is a long name to pronounce, so he does have shortened nicknames at home.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Pretty much I'll go like, you know, cheddar or Big Booty, something like that. And he really is just super responsive anyways if you give him any attention because he loves attention. Now Cheddar has the world's attention, but he's still not answering any questions from paparazzi. Mr. Big Booty Cheeseburger, what do you think about being famous? The fame hasn't changed him He's going to keep living his best life Lounging and loafing He is very much a big couch potato
Starting point is 00:36:55 Cheddar Bravo Big Booty Cheeseburger Shout out And he's an orange cat He's very fluffy Cheddar Big Booty Cheeseburger The other
Starting point is 00:37:08 The other winners Dog name Internet browser Internet browser I don't know why that's sense Come here, browser. Internet browser. And then for exotic pet name, there appears to be an iguana or a Gila monster.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And his name is Space Cowboy. Space Cowboy. By the way, iguanas remind me of you. Yeah, because I like to sun myself outside. And then if it's too cold, I fall out of a tree. Because you're from Texas. Yeah, I do. I sit and I just soak up sun.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I love that. I'm a lizard. Lizard is me. And, you know, cheddar big booty cheeseburger also applies to my life. life, so I'm very happy to see that the Arkansas news reporter when he goes, what about Big Booty? What about Big Booty?
Starting point is 00:37:57 Thanks, Bob. The question of our time, really. Cheddar Big Booty cheeseburger. Yeah, man. I thought they were going to say you ate cheeseburgers, too. You heard some forced news anchor laughing there too. Big Boatty. You got to have that fake
Starting point is 00:38:13 laughter. I was, I had a I was in my, I live in a high rise and I'm sitting in my place. There's at least one other cat on the floor, and I was hearing meowing. I know. I know. They haven't met yet.
Starting point is 00:38:25 No play day. It's nothing like that. But I'm hearing meowing, and I'm like, oh, boy, poor kitty. Like the parents probably aren't home, and it's getting louder and louder in the hallway. And then I was like, oh, crap. That's Dave. I left Dave in the hallway.
Starting point is 00:38:39 I'm like, oh, my God. I'm like laying down, you know, kind of calling in a night. I had put Dave out in the hallway, and I forgot he was out there. And usually I'd lodge the door open so he can get in and out. I had locked him out. And so he's out there me, and I'm like, boy, that poor cat out there. He's just a baby.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Yeah, bad owners out there not taking, they're not home for their cat. And I'm like, oh, man, that's my cat. Oh, my God. And he looked at me like, bro, you just left me. His tail was all puffy. He was so upset with me for about five minutes. Oh, my God. His tail was puffy?
Starting point is 00:39:11 All puffed because he was freaked out. Because usually he can come in and, like, if there's a sign, hint of somebody coming up on the elevator or a door open. That cat dashes back in. But I left him out that he is a scaredy cat. So did you keep the door open then you forgot? I forgot and I shut the door. I slammed it in his face, laid down on my couch, heard cat sounds that I thought I was
Starting point is 00:39:33 blaming other bad cat owners. I'm like, oh, that's mine. Walking around the apartment. Dave, can you believe these cats just out here? Kind of. In my own mind, I was judging other cat owners while I was the bad cat owner. Dave, aren't you glad I'm not? of them owners?
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah. You and I got a thing, bro. I don't think Cheddar Big Booty Cheeseburger would approve of this. I don't think he moves, though. I don't think Cheddar Cheeseburger cat would want to go in my hallway. He'd want to sit on the couch. Cheddar Big Booty ain't going out that door. No, he's not.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Big Booty Cheeseburger did move around, but he was like a very large fluffy cat. Live in his best life. And why not? That's always a question. Do I keep my cat healthier, let him live a shorter life, but be happier? this is what cat owners go through. Yeah, I mean, all of us as well. Like, you know, the concept of I'm here for a good time, not a long time.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Right, exactly. Did you see, did you see Ray, this is important? Did you see Caleb Williams posted Drake, like in an Iceman tweet? And I'm like, he has been showing a lot of love to that Iceman album and the other releases. Like, he's been posting and using a lot of Drake songs on Instagram. But does he not know that Drake wore Packers jacket? I don't know if he does. I'm sure he does because he's omnipresent online.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Like, I'm sure Caleb has to know. I don't know, man. I might need a ruling on that, too. Now the whole team's here. Speaking of that, at some point it was bound to happen. We've got to review a celebration. We'll do that next in five on them.

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