Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - Ravens back out of the trade for Raiders pass rusher Maxx Crosby (Hour 1)

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

Leila Rahimi and Marshall Harris opened their show by reacting to the Ravens backing out of a trade agreement to acquire star defensive end Maxx Crosby from the Raiders after Crosby failed their physi...cal. After that, they discussed if the Bears should get back in the Crosby trade sweepstakes. Later, they took calls from Score listeners about a potential Crosby pursuit for the Bears.

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Starting point is 00:03:01 Just now. Just now? This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 104-3 the score, and we were all left wondering late last night. What happened? How on earth did we get to the way where the Raiders are issuing the wamp-womp full-screen graphic that says, The Ravens have backed out of the trade for Max Crosby.
Starting point is 00:03:25 There will be no further comments at this time. See what had happened at first were. I feel like it really was a situation of, you see what had happened. happened was because that's how it felt. Depending on how these two teams go forward, the 30 for 30 on this is going to be amazing. Like at the rate, what if the Ravens win the Super Bowl this year? I'm pretty sure the, uh, the medicals won't let the 30 for 30 happen because that's what it sounds like.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Uh, I had so many questions last night, but I had one thought. And my first thought was, oh, Trey Hendrickson's still out here. and Max Crosby costs two first-round picks. And regardless of whether it's a medical thing or not, because you know, you can pass, fail, a physical, whatever, my initial thought, Layla, was like, they're definitely going after Trey Hendrickson. And Trey Hendriss is just still sitting out here
Starting point is 00:04:20 so they'll probably get him if they give him anything close to what he is actually seeking. So that's the part of this is I think we all put our GM hats on and we all understood the assignment. Number one, Max Crosby set the market as the pass rusher. Marshall has now put on a hat. It's kind of, we could say it's a GM hat in theory. It's really the marathon record hat, which is really cool that Kerry Pankowski got you. To be clear, I do not hold the record for any marathons as I have not run a marathon.
Starting point is 00:04:47 But they do record the men's and women's world records that were achieved at the Chicago Marathon. So the point is, he has put his elite hat on, if you will. But that's it. Max Crosby set the market. There's a reason we all talked about him ad nauseum. Are we even to the point of an nauseam yet? I don't think we are because it's still out there. There's still, so you're
Starting point is 00:05:09 telling me there's still a chance. Max. Max. Jones might be in the mix. The zombie Ray and Tyler Max Crosby Horde is back. The Max andistas. You just walk around Max. Collectively.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Max. Collectively. It's like brains, but better. Are out here people are alive in this scenario. Like the Undertaker and the GIF. that's what they are. Your hopes for Max Crosby are the Undertaker. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Bring me Max Crosby. And what? What? At a discounted rate? Bring me Max Crosby. So the guy who set the market suddenly was theoretically back on the market. So what did that mean for Trey Hendrickson, who was a known commodity at this point and didn't have as questionable of a surgery but did still have the core muscle issue and the surgery
Starting point is 00:06:00 that happened there? but you knew a little bit more about what you were getting. Core muscle as opposed to a knee, that makes it a little bit different of calculus. We knew Trey Hendrickson was the next best guy. We also knew the price on Trey Hendrickson, as opposed to Crosby, where we knew his salary at the cap hit being about $35.8 million, but we didn't know which teams wanted to give up the two first rounders, a la the Micah Parsons package.
Starting point is 00:06:26 So then the next best guy is still out there, kind of like the draft board, next best available, and lo and behold, my first thought was Trey Hendricksson gets the bag now, right? Like he becomes the guy with the crown. He is now the best available. And then we get the news this morning. In fact, the Raiders and the Ravens both had a plan B.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And the Ravens' plan B was Trey Hendricksson. Not just Trey Hendrickson, but Trey Hendrickson for a deal that's reportedly worth $112 million with incentives up to $1,000. and if you do the math on that, that's that magical $30 million per year number that Trey Hendrickson said he was not selling for anything less. Well, and that's it. So what number gets you to sign the deal that you want?
Starting point is 00:07:15 But take advantage of timing and take advantage of timing Trey Hendrickson did. And the incentives are really important here because I think they sweetened the deal when it comes to his age. It's just good negotiating for people concerned about Trey Hendrickson's age because he is older the Max Crosby, how is that going to shake out? And it does. He gets the deal he wanted. However, I don't think the Raiders are going to get the one they want now after this. I would be shocked if they got two first rounders, especially, now it might be different if this goes on and on, but the problem is the draft exists. And if you don't do a deal before the draft,
Starting point is 00:07:50 you become slightly vulnerable. Like we saw what happened with the Cowboys. If they had done that deal before the draft to trade away Michael Parsons, they would have gotten more for Michael The Parsons. The Cowboys timing has always been poor. That's fair. I mean, they operate with poor timing. Very late lately trying to get to that whole NFC championship thing. Think about the concept of franchise tagging George Pickens. And if they had extended him, that would have given them a lot more space to work with to free up more cat money because they were $56 million over. But timing is important in this. We've talked about Cuiido Femensa. Why did Sam Darnold dictate the Vikings timing on his on his firing so that said tree hendricksson your second favorite pass rusher is now off the
Starting point is 00:08:36 board and in the meantime there are domino effects from this it's the cap money that's available it's understanding that a lot of teams once they thought max crosbie was off the board went to their respective plan b's and i think that's why marshall you and i talked about a lot of other pass rushers immediately going off the board a dafeo a way comes to mom as somebody who we thought the bears might focus on. Their prices respectively went up because of timing and teams motivated to make sure they got who they wanted. So let's listen to what Tom Pelliserro said when it came to what happened. At this point, I would say this, the reaction from other people within the NFL that I am getting
Starting point is 00:09:18 is predominantly about how the Ravens pulled the rug out, regardless of what their reasoning was. This just does not happen. It has happened on multiple other occasions in the past, on much smaller trades or agreements involving the Ravens. However, when you're talking about trading two first-term picks, this is not an unknown issue with Max Crosby. Everyone knew he had a knee injury. Everyone knew he finished on injured reserve.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Everyone knew, based on Ian's reporting, that he had a meniscus surgery that was actually not just a trim, but a meniscus repair that has a longer-term type of a time. line. But that did not stop several teams from offering a first-run pick and more as part of a trade offer. It did not stop the Ravens from offering two first-run picks. This is not a situation where you put in a bid in an online auction. Then if you don't like the item, you return it via Amazon. This is a trade involving a superstar player in the NFL. Clearly, they came to the conclusion that there was something they were not comfortable with. And again, it does bear mentioning.
Starting point is 00:10:24 32 teams, 32 doctors, 32 degrees of risk tolerance. Well, one team might be willing to accept, whether it's in the draft process of free agent signing, a trade, is something that another team might say, we're simply not going to go there. That's why every year, we're going through the pre-draft process right now, you'll hear about players having medical flags. There might be 31 teams who say,
Starting point is 00:10:46 we won't pass this guy, we won't put a uniform on them. But if one team is willing to do it, then that player is going to play in the NFL. Max Crosby is a known commodity with a known injury. Clearly something happened. He was in Baltimore today posting on social media, obviously went through a medical process, after which the Ravens for one reason or another.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And again, to your point, we have not heard from the Ravens to this point. The Ravens decided we are not following through with this trade. It does not happen often in the NFL. It definitely does not happen at this level, this type of a blockbuster trade. Max Crosby, once again, is on the Raiders. He is right back on the trade block.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Other teams, again, I will emphasize this, the Cowboys would remain interested. They were the runner up to the Ravens. Other teams that I'm calling, I'm missing the calls right now from other teams trying to figure out what's going on because all the other pass rushers have gotten agreements to the Ravens now, who didn't get a pass rusher, try to flip one of those players that agreed to a deal someplace else because now they need another pass rusher for that defense. There are so many different tentacles to this. We never see this happen.
Starting point is 00:11:54 It is going to be a free agency frenzy that has now gone into a physical frenzy. How about that, Patrick Claibon, on a Tuesday night. Physical frenzy. Wow. Double challenge, physical challenge. I like the double entendre there with physical frenzy because obviously he allegedly did not pass a physical and now things might get physical between all these teams. But I think he's right to point out this may not necessarily be about whether or not you think
Starting point is 00:12:22 Max Crosby is a good decision to have him on your team or pick up the $35 million salary cap hit. This may be about how injured is he or how physically healthy is he based on the asking price of two first round picks. The price may have changed. The value of Max Crosby may have not. Both of those things can be true. And that's where this comes into play. It may not be, oh, he's hurt forever. That's, I think, where a lot of of people mentally go. They think, well, there's a setback in an injury. Well, not necessarily. This may just mean, we do not think his physical state is worth your asking price. And it's funny they mention the Cowboys because there have been multiple reports out of Dallas saying the
Starting point is 00:13:09 Cowboys maintained, we will not give up to first round picks. What did Danny Parkins say on our show last week? He's on with us at one. He did not think Max Crosby was worth two first round picks. That may be the deciding factor in this. It does seem like a buyer beware type situation for all those involved. But anytime someone's coming off a surgery, that's always the case. He hasn't been cleared. He's not back ready to go to practice tomorrow. We've heard explanations from doctors, real doctors, internet doctors, that this is where
Starting point is 00:13:43 you are after a surgery like this. We know it's going to take longer. And no one is surprised that he's not fully ready to go. It's just there's, if you want to believe what's coming out of the Ravens, there was something they didn't like on the medicals. I tend to believe I like Trey Hendrickson as an option at a much lesser rate. Well, outside of Trey Hendrickson, you mentioned doctors. And one of the most qualified on this topic in the city is here. Dr. Brian Cole, who is the team orthopedist for both the White Sox and the Bulls, he's with Rush.
Starting point is 00:14:15 He's very well known, the Midwest Clinic at Rush. an actual orthopedic surgery for NFA, for not just NFL teams, but pro teams. So he works on professional athletes. Talk to Mully and Haw about what he thought about
Starting point is 00:14:32 what Tom Pelliserro had to say. I mean, this is a complicated issue that's not just sort of the physician of the medical side of it. I kind of agree with Tom Pellasero that his comments. You know, this is something that range between
Starting point is 00:14:46 power from office makes a decision what they know going in. Does it end up, you know, being buyers or more or when someone comes in and does an inspection of a home is the last chance you have to get out of a trade? You know these things going in and there's a fundamental difference between relative risk for a metastectomy, which is when you partially remove meniscus versus a meniscus repair. So the calculus is actually much more complicated and, hey, what did this guy have done? Because they kind of knew this going into it. But to hone in on the answer to your question, a menacectomy, which is just a trim, often, especially in the NFL, a four to six-week
Starting point is 00:15:24 recovery, assuming the meniscus care is what's causing the person's pain. You know, relatively young player often doesn't have much in the way of other concomitant or associated problems like arthritis and so forth. So a simple metastectomy, meaning a trim, if that's what's causing pain, is a predictable operation. The alternative is a meniscus repair, and a minister repair is a procedure where we actually put sutures or stitches in the meniscus to preserve it. From a longevity perspective, it's desirable to preserve it. However, it's associated with significant recovery differences, often four to six months rather than four to six weeks.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And then in the NFL, the NBA in collision sports, there's a one to two and five chance of a re-tear happening once they get back after they've had that prolonged recovery. And then it's the issue of what you and I don't know if what else is going on in his knee. is it just the meniscus? So there are many factors, and then the teams have a lot of jurisdiction and flexibility when it comes to, quote, failing a physical. It's not just can you play or can't you play. There's a lot of other factors that go into it. So there it is. Brian Cole, Dr. Brian Cole,
Starting point is 00:16:30 who is with Rush to Midwest Clinic, who is an orthopedic surgeon who works on professional athletes tells you about the variables involved with that specific injury and why it's not just as simple as one or zero. He's either good or he's not. And the end of what he said there really hits home because we don't know. We don't know the specific reason if it's a medical reason strictly. Let's say it really is just strictly medical reason, which I, you'd have to convince me of that. All the reports indicate that that's the case. Listen, I understand that. But here's my question. If Trey Hendrickson's not available, and you see the dearth now of past rushers available, when now that Trey Hendrickson is off the board. Or that were available, yeah. Yeah. So if he's not available,
Starting point is 00:17:25 do you think this deal still gets rescinded? That's, I guess, the question. And the answer could be yes, but it's hard for me to believe because of the timing of everything. The timing of everything. League year starts at three o'clock. That's when deals can be done and become official. Happy league year. In a, what, less than 12-hour span of time, they re-nig on the trade with the Raiders and also sign Trey Hendrickson? Well, that's it. You're only as good as your options are. And when they had other options, they went to their second option. And I think that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:18:01 That's what I'm saying, Layla. If that plan B doesn't exist, are you just 100% confident that this deal gets taken off the table from the Ravens point of view? I don't necessarily know. I think that every NFL team has multiple sets of plans and contingencies and scenarios. And I think what we saw was what happens when it's two of the biggest names in the sport and it's real time. And the concept of every player affecting somebody else's market in your position group is the case. So I think both are true. But I think, again, that's why your physical may have just determined based on the
Starting point is 00:18:42 time he will need based on what our doctor says about recovery, perhaps two first round picks is no longer the right price for us. And that's where I feel like some of the gray area lies. Now, they didn't want Trey Hendrickson initially. And they wouldn't have had to give up a thing for him. They already understand they have that cap money available. So I think that was still their first choice because ultimately it was the choice they made first. whether or not Tray Hendrickson determined how they felt about it. I think when you know you want a plan B
Starting point is 00:19:16 and you know you want a pass rusher rather than live without him, they told you what their priorities were. So I think that for them, the Ravens, they had something specific in mind. If your options are Max Crosby and Trey Hendrickson, good on you. If that's who you want to go get
Starting point is 00:19:36 and these are the guys that you want to see, I call that a luxury. problem to have. We call that living high off the old hog is what we call that. High on the hog, yeah. And that's part of it. That, you know, that means that you're eating the top of the bean on the pig. The bears, they have first world problems.
Starting point is 00:19:59 The Ravens clearly have first class problems. The Ravens are still in a very fluid situation. Fluid situation with an MVP quarterback is pretty good. Yeah, but now. Now the scenario where I mentioned that they could have Tyler Linderbaum and Max Crosby on the same team, building from the inside out, if you will, well, that's happened. But it's not how they wanted it. And the timelines don't match up.
Starting point is 00:20:23 So I think the question now becomes, do you think Trey Hendrickson gets moved? Do you think the bears should get on this? And we want to know what you think, too. 312, 644, 67, 67 is our number. So you can give us a call or text. You can also join us on Twitch.tv.tv. The Score Chicago is our address. Our Twitch mob is up there chatting with you and me.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And you can also join us on YouTube, YouTube. The Score Chicago is our address on YouTube. It changed, but we're still there for you, The Score, Chicago. So do you think the Bears should get in on the max Crosby Sweepsticks now that it is looking like there might be a discount? We are Rahimi Harris and Grody. Marshall Harris, Laila Rahimi with you, Ray Diaz, Tyler Buterbaugh, and Brandon Friar are our producers. We also have a video team of Connor, O'Donnell, Jacob Stutz, and Max Curtis, and we broadcast live from our scores Hyundai Studios, brought to you by your local Hyundai dealers. So join us in the conversation because we thought it was over.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Do you get back in on Max if you're the Bears? Next. Rahimi Harris and Grody, Midday's Tyndel 2. On Chicago Sports Radio, 1043, the score. Williams Has been another return and the Raiders defense answers yet again
Starting point is 00:21:57 Max Crosby intercepting Caleb Williams that from the barn burner of the 2524 Raiders and Bears game I'm sorry to laugh but I have to bring this to the air we were just talking about the concept of
Starting point is 00:22:15 to be so of course I was talking to Marshall about it and Ray as well and then Marshall goes I can't believe some of these world baseball classic games are on 2B, to which I said, I watched a whole Super Bowl on 2B. And then I had to explain to Marshall that Fox owns Tube. No, I knew Fox owned Tube, but I thought that they weren't putting their actual network programming on 2B. Isn't it supposed to be like everything else but the networks? But see, this is how they try and push people over to Tube.
Starting point is 00:22:43 They give you a little sampling of the real stuff. We are talking about football. We're going to push them, push them down the line down to Tubey. So that's how you try and get people to watch. you got to download a whole new app though if you don't have it but twoby's really convenient i have to be and there are many independent films on toby that are great to check out i'm a fan you should check them out you should have to be already if you don't a lot of reading class movies on too no but tubi has other stuff too like didn't they carry gossip girl for a minute they did they do
Starting point is 00:23:13 have other programming yeah so too tube was our during the break conversation and it's valid to you because World Baseball Classic games are on TV and you might be surprised. And no, nobody's paying me to say this. It's a select number. It's just an interesting concept. We'll talk about the World Baseball Classic at 1125, by the way. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 1043, the score. And I asked everybody to put your GM hat back on.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Knowing what you know about the Max Crosby trade and how the Ravens backed out and knowing that many reports indicate there was an issue with the physical. Let's also rewind back to when the Bears had an issue with a physical on-in-eventive lineman. That was back with the Larry Ogunjobi scenario, which I didn't think we would end up talking about. Ogun-Jobie ended up playing over 110 games after that moment where the Bears had to back out of the trade. He ended up with the Steelers. And again, I think it just came down to the price. Was the contractor, was the asking price worth?
Starting point is 00:24:17 what a team was willing to get in on based on the physicals. So I say that, asking the question again, knowing that the Bears did commit to backup defensive linemen and Gallaborn Street, knowing that the Bears still need a pass rush, are you back in on Max Crosby? Are you asking me, Leila, or Humie, if I'm back in on Max Crosby? Not just you, and you, the listener. 312, 644, 67, 67 is our number.
Starting point is 00:24:48 My answer is very simple. I ain't never left. Like what? I was the one saying, okay, now go get Trey Hendrickson, because he's the most viable guy remaining. Guess what? Go get him. Hendrickson now appears to be off the board as of 3 p.m. or so today
Starting point is 00:25:02 when the actual new league year starts. So now you go get Max Crosby. And guess what? You don't even have to pay that much for him. So I guess the better question, Lail is, what are you willing to give up for Max Crosby? Because some people, I understand, it's going to be absolutely nothing. I don't want him.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Montaithew, D.J. Moore. Sir, D.J. Moore's already been traded. So, understanding that, because I was one of the people who said, yeah, I give up two firsts and D.J. Moore to get Max Crosby. He solved some cap issues. And also get a guy who makes your pass rush now elite and sweat on one side and him on the other. I do not see how. the Raiders get two first rounders after this. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:25:48 It was already questionable. That was the whole sticking point with the rest of the league, was there were a lot of teams interested, but not for that price. In the words of the laws, yesterday's price is not today's price. I never thought it would go backwards, though. Inflation is a hell of a drug.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Well, in this case, it's the opposite. So yesterday's price on Max Crosby is not today's price. So the better question becomes, at what price are you willing to go get Max Crosby? Okay, follow me on this. For me, the Bears have multiple second round picks. I'd be willing to give up a second round pick this year and a first round pick next year. That's what I'd be willing to give up. Go get it, baby.
Starting point is 00:26:32 That's what I'd be willing to give up. Yeah, that's a discount. So do you understand why I'm okay with giving up next year's first round pick? Because you think it's going to be worse. I think it's going to be later. I really do. Especially if you get Max Crosby on your roster. Mega trade idea from 3-1-2.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Oh, what we got? What we got? Raiders trade number one pick to someone else needing a quarterback. And then trade Crosby to Bears for first, second, and Bajent. I don't even think you need first second and Bajon. Dare to dream. Dare to go with a crazy trade. Second next year's first.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Bejant and a second rounder is 708. Yeah. Yeah, of course the Bears would take that deal. about this from 708, Leila. I'm back in on Max as long as the trade is for no more than an old style, a shot of malort, the famous Chicago handshake, and of course, a Portillo's Cake Shake to be named later. That's from Dodger Boy.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Now, would you, my price that I said, would you give that up for Max Crosby? A second and a first? Yeah. If a player wasn't involved, yes. Okay. I think that that's fair. Because of his salary, a second rounder is a lot more fungible than a first. Bears theoretically would be a late first.
Starting point is 00:27:46 So that part of it also stands. I think you're always in on it if the price is reasonable. And I firmly believe this entire issue with the trade terms was that the Ravens decided we didn't want to give up two first rounders for what we saw in a physical. And then you know what else I thought about, guys, was maybe you shouldn't have been on the trampoline after the knee? Like, is that something you asked Dr. Brian Cole about? Yes, Dr. Cole. Is that a good idea to be on a trampoline with my daughter, who's a toddler?
Starting point is 00:28:20 But here's the... After the surgery. No, no, that was before the surgery, wasn't it? That was, yeah, because that was when he was mad that he had been shut down. He hadn't had it yet. That was the shutdown. So, like, any damage I do on this knee on this trampoline, they're going to clean it up when they go inside this knee anyway. And we heard Dr. Brian Cole say the relative risks with a...
Starting point is 00:28:40 meniscus. It's not like a Patel or like Ozzie Tripillo. Yeah. That's why, that's why, again, I'm holding strong to my idea that this is more about Trey Hendrickson being available without having to give up draft capital at a much cheaper price than you thought he was going to cost than anything really being wrong with Max Crosby. 630 says if we have Max and Montez who's wearing 98, here's how you do it. You line them up on a two by four. And then you put them in a three-point stands, make sure they're all helmet and pat it up. And then whoever goes down first, that's who doesn't wear 98. Well, I know one of those guys has never been told he needs to win his one-on-one match-up.
Starting point is 00:29:21 So I have a feeling how that's going to go. I'm feeling how that's going to go. I have a feeling Max Crosby also probably did the two-by-four drill. Let's go to our phone. 312, 644-67. And Jesus and Jefferson Park, you're on Rahimi-Harrison-Grady. Rahimi and Harris Grotty. Good morning, guys. Listen, Marshall, I can't, I agree with you. I think this is buyer's remorse from Baltimore. Just the timing of the way their news came out, and then when Henderson was available, you can't tell me otherwise. You can show me all the medical, but I totally agree with that. Now, I'm fine with giving up the number one and two. I mean, you think about the number one this year is 25 or something like that. That's almost a second round pick. Give it up this year and go ahead with the second. You've got enough second rounds. this year to make up for it.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Let's go. Let's get it. Okay, so you would give up this year's first. They have too many needs for me to give up this year's first. Yeah. I think they need that first and a second and a second, and they'd still have a first and second round pick this year if they give up this year's second and next year's first. I just think there's probably a team out there who is willing to give a first that they have this year.
Starting point is 00:30:29 And guess what? It's probably higher than the Bears first. Right. And that was a report that was out there. Don't get fooled by the bananas and the tailpipes. people. Don't get fooled. Now there is a report from our friend Greg Gabriel who says on Twitter, this is an hour ago, breaking, just got a text from a very credible agent who said it is their belief around the league that the bears will look into trading for Crosby. And I think that that's
Starting point is 00:30:56 fair to report because again, when the price changes, everybody's going to look back into this. It would be malpractice if you did not. Malpractice, negligence, all the above. It's like, you know, drafting someone number one overall without going to check out the competition. And Greg worked in a front office as well, so this is valid. He says if the bears were to attempt to trade for Crosby, my feeling is they don't, they need to find out why he failed in Baltimore, of course, and then get a medical here should a trade be made. I don't know that you find out.
Starting point is 00:31:27 That's the thing. It's how proprietary is that information. He says the return can and won't be too firsts. There is an obvious risk now, and last they would be taking on a 30-month- million dollar salary. And that cap hit at least on the Raiders was 35.79. So that's it. You just want to find out with your own data at least what to search for based on what the other team thought they saw. The other factor in this is a lot of money has been spent since the news came out that Max Crosby was getting traded to the Ravens to begin with. So a lot of teams may not have the
Starting point is 00:32:03 flexibility to even absorb his contract. That's it. Like that's a big part of this is he's not the only pass rusher who's off the board. So because of that, you've just seen how many other edge rushers are now gone. Do you want to do the, do you want to do the he gone? Should we get the he gone? Let's do it. Trey Hendrickson is now with the Ravens. Jalen Phillips signed with the Panthers.
Starting point is 00:32:31 He come! Adafay-O-A signed with the commanders. He-Gom! John Franklin Myers signed with the 10. Tennessee Titans. So think about all of the players, even I don't know how you feel about this based on the money he got, but I still consider Rishon Gary somewhat of a pass rusher guys despite his second half of the season.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And he got traded to the Cowboys who were supposedly interested but not interested in the price for the Cowboys for, sorry, Max Crosby. I will say this. Just to be clear, when you're saying signing, they're planning to sign after 3 p.m. Now I'm a little hesitant to tell people that, hey, this guy's definitely going here because all these are deals that have been agreed upon to go and be signed once the league year starts at 3 p.m. today. That's another question.
Starting point is 00:33:22 This is known as negotiating, quote, legal tampering, whatever you want to call it, how solid are the commitments overall? That's what the next question then becomes. It makes you wonder watching something like this go down in the main. manner that it did with the biggest guy available, whether you want to talk about a free agency or otherwise, Crosby was that name. Indeed.
Starting point is 00:33:45 312644-67-67 is our number. You can text us. You can call us. What do you think, should the bears get back in? Are you looking at another price for the trade? 9-17 says Arlington Heights racetrack straight up for Crosby, solves the where will the stadium be questioned, and fixes the password. Well, those are assets.
Starting point is 00:34:04 So at least you know one's condition immediately, which is the land. The racetrack isn't there anymore, but at least you've got the land. So I don't hate it. And one doesn't count for the salary cap. So there's that as well. All right. I'm interested.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I'm interested in finding out what other people think. 3-1-2-6-4-6-7-67. Are you back in, never were in? Have you changed your mind? Are you hedging your bets on Max Crosby to the Bears? What would you be willing to give up? and what would be a cost too high? 773 says we have no pass rush.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Well, take that up with the contracts that were signed last year. Here's where we are. We have one call on hold, so we want to hear from you. Should the Bears get back in on the pursuit of Max Crosby? Max Ineis does unite on the score. Rahimi Harris and Grotie. Midday's 10 to 2 on 1043, the score. Okay, I'm still somewhat giggling at the Bejan in a second rounder.
Starting point is 00:35:06 How do you think that phone call is going to? go with John Spitech if you're the Raiders. What was that? Oh, I'm sorry, you're breaking up. Gotta go. Bye! This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie. At what price would you trade for Max Crosby? Do you want in on the sweepstakes?
Starting point is 00:35:21 Should the bears get back in? I think the price is going to be a little higher. 312, 644, 67, 67. We go to Frank in Las Vegas. Frank, you're on Rahimi Harrison Grody. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I have two reasons.
Starting point is 00:35:37 why they should. I would give up the first this year and a second next year because who knows where we're picking next year because of injuries and stuff. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, Booker is similar size to Crosby. You get him in there and let him show him that he gives 110%, show him some moves. And can't you next year, as a cap casually, of sweat, if Booker continues like he did the last quarter of the season. And just a little off-top, but cannot the Bears sue the NFL because clearly Ian Cunningham
Starting point is 00:36:15 met the requirements of, you know, being elevated to general manager? Are you familiar with the cliche judge, jury, and executioner? That is Adam, excuse me, Roger Goodell right about now. So they can't sue them.
Starting point is 00:36:30 This is league business. This is how the league operates. The commissioner works for the 32. teams. Yeah, but I mean, if you look through the past, they've always screwed bears. Yeah. You know, some way or another, there's got to be some kind of remedy that they can look at. I know that, you know, if you mess with them, they're going to try to penalize you later.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Would it maybe, if they do ever get a new stadium, they may not want to do a Super Bowl here or something like that. But somebody can't even somebody else, even in AACT, get involved and say, hey, you're breaking a rule that you said to help, you know, minorities, you know, can't they get, somebody get involved? Because clearly Ian Cunningham was elevated to a good position, higher position than what he had here. You know what?
Starting point is 00:37:20 There's a chat bot. If you go to contact the NFL office, NFL support, submit a request, which I'm pretty sure probably has more to do with the actual function of the website. But maybe that's, there's got to be another way. Yeah, because since this is on everyone's minds and the bears can't seem to have any recourse, that's not to say we can't contact them. Are we about to start a grassroots movement to contact Roger Goodell? You write an email to Roger Goodell.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Let him know how you're feeling and how the lack of compensatory picks for Ian Cunningham is affecting your life, Bears fans. No, I'm not kidding. You might as well email somebody. Just find the contact us information or the contact information on the NFL. and the more they get from this, then at least we've made it a nuisance for them. And that might be the best thing that we can possibly do.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Here's what stinks. It probably gets the next person, the compensatory picks for their respective team. That's what it probably does. Because they won't admit they were wrong on this one, but we can remind them that they are. I have no problem with doing that. So Frank, that's my suggestion.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And I'm not kidding. Contact the NFL. If they won't listen to us, then have it registered somewhere. So thanks for your call. 1-12-644-67. This is Rahimi-Harrison-Grody on 104-3. The score. We go to Pete in Rockford.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Hi, Pete. Hey, how you doing? Right. I wanted to point out something. From the very beginning, Ryan Poles, has always said that he's going to grow the bears to the draft, and he didn't want to put any kind of financial burden or restraints on the bears. He's gotten us out of bad contracts,
Starting point is 00:39:00 and he's gotten us in a good position right now. And as much as I want to see a healthy Max Crosby on a Bears team, I still think that it's too early. I think that we'll be putting too much money into them. And it's not the path that Ryan Poles wanted to take from the get-go. So with that, I'll listen. I think the number one thing is when you're saying that, though, he's not always going to have Caleb Williams,
Starting point is 00:39:27 if things go the way that we think it's going to go, on a rookie contract. This is the time now to take advantage of that before you have to really make cutbacks and pay your quarterback. I think everybody wants to build through their draft. But when the facts in the matter change, we change. I think that the Bears thought that Jervon Dexter was going to be a different player in the final year of his rookie contract than he's turned into now. I think the Bears drafted a lot of hopes and prayers or people they thought that they could change based on relative athletic score and traits, especially early on in Ryan Poles' time with the Bears, and that they haven't come through. And somebody needed to say, these players are good enough. Furthermore,
Starting point is 00:40:08 you saw it happen. The league showed you. So when you can't build through the draft, the next thing you try to do is sign free agents, which is what they did on the offensive line, and it's what they did on the defensive line, respectively. So they had to fix the problem somehow. But you're right, drafting should be the solution, and it should be the very first thing that happens. But when it doesn't, you've got to fill in the gap somehow. 312-644-67-67 is our number. Brandon in Madison, Wisconsin. We go to you next. Hey, Brandon. Hey, how's it going? We're good. How are you today?
Starting point is 00:40:43 Good, good. I just want to say I grew up listening to you guys with my dad in his car. So thanks for all you guys do, first of all. Thank you. And I am for the Max Crosby trade for a few reasons. I think the attention he brings to opposing offenses with our new signings of Devin Bush and Jackson, being able to free those guys up to fly around. It's really important as well as the flexibility we have next year in the cap with $77 million prior to cutting guys like Deo and Grady and those guys freeing up another $30 million to make other moves like re-signed Darnell Wright. But I just think he would change the trajectory of this rebuild and this phase that we're in, as well as amplify the young guys and bring juice to our defensive line.
Starting point is 00:41:38 What would you be willing to give up, though? I think I would be willing to give up probably a first and a next year's second. And part of the reason that is, I think, with Ben Johnson, we've proven that we can draft later in the draft and still find value guys like Luke Newman, Manung guy, you know, even those second round picks that we've had, like we've proven that we can get value. So those two picks to me become, you know, less relevant when a guy like Max Crosby's on your roster. I like your logic, Brandon. Thanks for calling in.
Starting point is 00:42:16 And thanks for picking up where your family left off, two generations of score listeners. We'll take it. We love to hear it. But I just don't think it's as simple when it comes to being able to cut players like Dio Dainbo, for example. Like this year, it's a $22 million dead cap hit. That's a lot of money. So that's not happening this year. Grady Jarrett would be a $21 million dead cap hit.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Both of those are higher than their respective contracts and cap hits this season. We will have one more call, and it is Kendrick on the south side. Hi, Kendrick. Hey, how's it going? I'm finally able to get in on one of these conversations, so I'm very excited. Well, we're happy to have you. All right. I'm for the Max Prosby trade.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And me personally, with everything that went down, course, his value is not going to be two first round picks anymore. So I would probably do like a first and a second, like this year's first and probably next year's second. And the only way I would even consider doing two first round picks is if they take, I owe the dangbo contract away from us. That's the only way I'll be looking at to give you our two first round picks. But I think we have the time is now. Like we have this little window and the time is now for us to make that push
Starting point is 00:43:37 to be able to get over there hump the way we should before we have to start looking at the paying Caleb 50 to 60 plus million dollars. And we still have Roma Dunezay. He's probably on demand another $27, $28 million. You know, so it's like we, The time is now. If we can capture one now, and our biggest issue, which was proven for us last year, was that we couldn't get to the quarterback. Montez Sweat, me personally, I got one more year with him before I decided to ship him out somewhere. But I think if you pair of Max Crosby with him,
Starting point is 00:44:10 we can be able to do something. And I think it could be very special if we can make that happen. Kendrick, I like your timeline, especially in Montess Sweat. And I like the thought process overall. I'm glad you got in on the conversation. We thank you for your call. So we have to get to a break here because we have to hear from Mike Florio next. What a perfect day to talk to Mike. It could not have lined up any better. The creator and editor of Pro Football Talk,
Starting point is 00:44:35 who I'm sure has heard some hot gossip since, I don't know, I'd say last night around 8 o'clock or so. We'll talk to Mike next.

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