Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - Should the Bears trade for Maxx Crosby? (Hour 2)

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

In the second hour, Leila Rahimi and Marshall Harris discussed the possibility of the Bears trading for Raiders star pass rusher Maxx Crosby. Harris believes the Bears should pay what it takes to get Crosby. After that, CHGO host Adam Hoge joined the show to discuss the latest developments in the Bears’ pursuit of a new stadium.

The score. This hour is brought to you by Menards. Save big money at Menard. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotty on 1043 The Score. We were going to have Jordan Schultz on right now, but I'm pretty sure he's chasing down news. Anytime somebody reschedules with us at the Combine, there's usually a reason. So let's go over some of the tweets that Jordan Schultz has put out just when it comes to the Bears today. This was at 903 this morning.

Sources. Teams have inquired with the bears about trading for Jervon Dexter. There's a name I didn't think I would read this morning. As the free agent defensive tackle market and draft class are not deep, the 24-year-old started all 17 games last season and had 13 and a half career sacks and 42 quarterback hits. He is entering the final year of his rookie contract. So that's a big one.

and then he continues to break more news. He also had this. Two other names the Bears have received calls on, as we know, quarterback Tyson Baygent, and wide receiver DJ Moore per sources. So this isn't just us speculating. This is per NFL sources to Jordan Schultz. Moore has over $23 million in guaranteed money in 2026

and is viewed as available for the right price by teams in the wide receiver market. This is unsurprising. All of this, it makes sense when you think about the way the Bears' salary cap is set up for next season currently, where the league's cap is that's going to have to be in line with the league year coming up in early March. It seems like we are at a tipping point, and Ryan Poles is kind of before the combine is over and before the actual draft against, he's on the clock to get cap compliant. I get that, and we know, and we've talked about it, I think, as much as anybody else has when it comes to what the bears are facing, when it's being cat compliant by March 11th, that is when the league has its next year's start. But here's the other part of this. Like, we've been thinking in terms of big rocks in the jar versus little rocks in the jar. Javon Dexter is not little. But his salary, relatively speaking, is even in the last year of his rookie deal.

according to SpotRack, he would make 2.1 million, 2.139, sort of 2.2, like 2.4-1-4, basically. So 2.14 million is owed to Javon Dexter. He's in the last year of that rookie deal. Who are you replacing him with that would be cheaper? Do you have that much confidence in Shemar Turner, who you want to be an interior rusher, even though he started at D-end in his last game? Do you put him back to the middle? That is a question for Dennis Allen ultimately, but I will say this. You're talking about Shamar Turner. I'm thinking about this, the 26 NFL draft, and can you replace him through that avenue? And if you decide to go that route, because Javon Dexter is no longer here, how much are you putting yourself in another, and it's not

apples to apples here, but another running back situation from last year? Now, that worked out for the Bears with Cal Manungai in the seventh round. But if you target and it's no longer about the quote unquote best player available as you get deeper into the draft, you set yourself up to not have as much optionality because you need certain position holes filled. I mean, I just go back to the, yeah, you're putting yourself in a spot there. And here's the other thing is sometimes as we're reading this, you and I who've been reporting, you know, who's putting this out there?

teams have inquired with the bears about trading for Dexter that would mean that somebody who's in the place to receive the calls that be the Bears and is it in the Bears best interest to trade him you always listen to the deal I understand that but at the same time this is a problem that you might be creating that you didn't have a problem at before

I didn't have issue with Jervon Dexter you know especially this year when he was able to get his hand up on a few tip balls. Like that is that is as good as anything when it comes to a play kill. And that sets you up to get turnovers depending on how the tip goes. So I don't necessarily know why they would put themselves in this position. I know it's, I know it's a one year left on his contract, but he's, he's so cheap. Well, I know, I don't want to say that because it sounds like he's cheap as a person. He's not cheap. His contract is so cheap. How about that? You knew I was going to say it. Yeah. I was like,

there's not a better word here. I wanted to walk with you on it because I didn't want you to be out here by yourself calling him cheap, but I understood what this sentiment was. He's very close to bawling on a budget. No, I think he is... He starts, he's reliable. He's not the best when it comes to the interior pass rush, but he's good. Yeah, he's far from the worst.

I mean, he's above, I think he's above average and he's an excellent value. How about that? He's an excellent value. Great value, Jordan, or great value, Javon, Dexter. That makes it sound cheaper when you say great value, because then it's... It's like a brand and off brand. No, but here's what I'll say to Javon Dexter and the idea that the Bears would put this out there. The Bears are simply trying to find out what could they get for Javon Dexter.

Remember, like I said, Ryan Poles is on the clock. He needs to know what his options are for everybody on the roster and if there is a market for every player that he's thinking about moving around. I mean, think about that. He started all 17 games last season. Durability is a thing. That's more than a great value. Yes. The best ability is still.

Availability. And that's why it's perplexing, isn't it? Like you're going, what's the end game on this news? It could just be putting your toe in the water to see what the water temperature is. It could be that simple. But, you know, the other thing, too, is that reportedly this draft class is very deep at edge. That this is a good defensive end class. in the draft and that perhaps your chances at 25 are good enough to find somebody.

So then why would you be like, yeah, I'm going to get rid of my DT? Make it make sense. Yeah, and the cap hit has slightly escalated each and every year, but it's very cheap compared to some of the guys you might have to go out there and get as a free agent who are older and maybe less durable. And more expensive. Yeah, that's the other part. I'm like that's a that might be penny wise and pound foolish like that that's the issue but it depends on the assets you think you can get as well and that's very fair now Jordan shultz talking about Tyson Baygent and DJ Moore Ryan Poles told us that the bears had received calls on Tyson Bayton but DJ Moore is something that I think until this point it's been you and me and friends trying to figure out what happens to him hi friends

I don't necessarily think it's been NFL sources or front offices saying, hey, is he available? There is a proven need for both of those positions in the league. Quarterback, number one receiver. You know, we talked about some of the teams yesterday. I hate to tell you this. I think you and your heart of hearts know one of the teams that could use DJ Moore services. Are you speaking about the only team that resides in the state of New York?

Correct. The Buffalo Bills could use a, just a dog of a receiver, a get it done guy. Dog, like dog and him, dog. Somebody with some, uh, aunt to. Who blocks on past plays? Who blocks on any play, who does whatever you need him to do. I think Josh Allen would be happy with DJ more. And, you know, I've heard a lot of talk in Caleb Williams two years here about the lack of chemistry.

I mean, the chemistry has been good at certain points, but. the consistency in chemistry has been called into question by me, you, everybody at some point. Well, and he's just not being targeted a lot either. So is he as valuable on the Bears as he would be on a team like, say, the Bills or say the Titans or say just anybody who needs. The Raiders? Sure. The Raiders.

Now, see, now you're, by asking that question about the Raiders, you're leading me to that other thing. Do we do it? Do we do it? Do we? Listen. Is that our Maxinista alert? Ray, call out the Maxinistas. I need you to do it, Ray. We need the horn. We need the DJ horn. Let's get the DJ horn set up. We're about to get ready for everybody who is really wanting a star pass rusher to reinvigorate the Bears defense. Are you ready, Tyler? Where my Maxineas is out? 64-4-6-7-67. Check in on the text line if you're a Maxenista out there. Are you guys welcoming people onto the Maxinista bandwagon? That's my next question.

Who's not on the Maxinez? Both in T.J. Max Life and in Max Crosby life. I told you. I'm a Marshall's guy. You can be both. Why not both? Okay. That's fair. That's fair. I just... Come on, Marshall. Bring it home, baby. We're ready for you. I got it. Never, never invalid. Never invalid. So here's my thing. Here's why I have been converted to the camp of Max Inistas. I am fully on board with the bears making the trade for one Max Crosby. It's very simple now.

Now that we have a price, now that you've told me the price point, now that we're not haggling over prices, if all it takes is this year's first rounder and next year's first rounder, rounder and DJ more, I'm good. Let's get that done right now. It might not even take that much. And you know what? And a twist, yesterday's price is today's price. Oh. Because two first rounders and a player for Micah Parsons, for example, is also the same

price for Max Crosby. This is pro football talk, Mike Florio, reporting per a league source. The Raiders are looking for two first round picks and a player for the 28-year-old edge rusher. And what I need people to do, Leila, when they absorb that news. Because I know it hurts Bears fans when you hear Price and First Rounder, you're like, oh, first rounder. You know why? Because when they think First Rounder, they think Colson Loveland. They think Roma Dunze. They think Caleb Williams, because

they're so used to picking at the top of the first round, in the first half of the first round. We need you to think lower, friends. But this is a new era. When you talk about first round pick for the Bears, I need you to get used to the number being 20 and down. Get low. Get low

with it. Here's the deal. If the bears are going to be picking in the 20s or beyond over the next two years, they've got pick number 25 this year. And it costs two first round picks. So you're talking about a pick that's 25 this year and

a pick in the 20s, maybe even the 30s, depending on how things go. next year. The 30s means you made the Super Bowl. I know what it means. Well, it could be championship game because 30, 31, 32. But yes. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

But yes, if we're talking about that for Max Crosby next year on this team, you have to do it. You have to do it. Tell me why you wouldn't do it. No, I mean, I've, well, I've been there. It's just, you know, I hate to be the nerdy accountant who breaks into the chat here. you're going to have to move a lot because he's set to make 35.79 million next year. Okay.

35.79 is far in a way. That would far in a way be the highest paid bear on the team because DJ Moore is number one at 28 and a half. Thank you for pointing out the DJ Moore salary. So first of all, just cancel that out. So now you're down, what, 11 million according to what you just said? Yes. Okay. I mean, I don't know if there's any asset balance that has to happen there.

Okay, but let's just say it's around $11 million. Tremaine Emmons is gone. We can agree on that, right? Yeah, that's pretty much happening. And I agree with everybody who's like, why are they even trying to trade them when we all know they're not going to keep them? Yeah, I agree with you guys. Well, try to get something for them, and then you do just cut them. And sometimes you are able to get something. If it's a sixth round or if it's a seventh round, just get something for him. You're going to cut them.

I like the 630 text. Like the Rams said the year they won and traded for Von Miller, blank them picks. But they didn't say blank. But that's pretty much how you have to be. blank them picks, bleat them picks, however you want to say it. I'm going to need someone to talk me off the ledge. I'm ready to jump like we're in the wilderness in the jungle into that body of water. There could be piranhas down there. There can be an alligator down there, but it looks like a fun jump, doesn't it?

That's what Max Crosby is right now. That's a jump I'm willing to take. I am now officially a Maxenista. I don't know that I wasn't. One of us. One of us. One of us. Yeah, it's the

It's just the 35.8 That you've really got it Oh, you don't want to pay the price for a guy who No, I do. I just, you know, it's going to be like Max Crosby and you and me on the defensive line. Hey, no, no, it's going to be Max Crosby and Montez Sweat and whoever's in the middle.

Maybe Jervon Dexter, maybe not. Andrew Billingsley's probably gone. Like there's guys who... And your friend who really wants to hit somebody on the defensive line. And then you got... And like in the linebackers, it's going to be like maybe T.J. Edwards and a guy who said he played linebacker last week. Listen, old Grady Jarrett is still here?

Safeties? No. No, your safeties are like your friend who played safety in high school and... Jalen Johnson exists. Collar Gordon exists. There are people who will be on this team that are still playmakers. I just want... Jayley Johnson and Collar Gordon are both corners.

You still have to figure out who's in the middle and the back. There are safeties to be had in this draft as well in the second round and beyond. Because remember, in this scenario, you have no first round pick. I'm very comfortable with Ryan Poles figuring it out. This is what you get paid to do. Max Crosby's right there. Caleb Williams is on his rookie contract. Figure it out.

The defensive introduction would be like Max Crosby. That's it. That's the defense. See, like the player introduction at the bottom of the screen, Max Crosby. And then it's just done. And then it just wipes away. And then you go back to the wide shot and it's just Max Crosby over center. Max Crosby running laterally from tight end to tackle.

You know, that was a- What gap he's going to pick is since he's the only one there? That was always. The guy's on the swing just kind of by himself all alone. That was always the joke, you know, like before the CBA became ridiculous in the NBA. the joke was like if you're paying these two dudes who's left on the bench

and the bench is like us you know Max Crosby Eastern Michigan and yes Laila Rehimi wanted to play defense one time Marshall Harris thought it might be a good idea

Clay Harbor you can't coach height 773 says It'll be okay we have a punter 608 says bears are already 9 million over the cap figure that

okay we have have a punter. Bears are already $9 million over the cap. Figured that into the $11 million more, digging quite a hole there. Remember, Tremaine Edmins is gone. Can we just talk about Tremaine Edmonds being gone, saving you close to $20 million? Yeah, but he was the healthy guy. So who's on the linebacking crew? They have guys. We just mentioned him. These are our player introses. How do you feel about it? Oh, yeah. I mean, it's a little brutal, but Max Crosby would be leading the way, baby. He'd inspire us all.

I would like to also offer this thought. I know that we were all trying to figure out what the price was going to be. And it was surmised that I was going to say three first rounders by like the common section somewhere. And I like to read stuff just because I like to answer questions if there are questions to be answered. But no, I always thought it was going to be like two players or two first rounders and a player. But the question then becomes what the quality of the player is. You know, like this is like for the Cowboys, and Michael Parsons, it was two first rounders and Kenny Clark.

That just also kind of indicates to me how poorly they valued Micah Parsons, doesn't it? When you consider that the price would be the same. Now, Max has a much bigger contract number, but still, ridiculous. I just think... You're doing math right now. I see you over there. Yes, I am.

I just feel like this is the thing that needs to be priority at the top. Figure out if you can do it. If you can't do it, tell me why, Ryan Poles. Tell me why. Your bear's defensive lie. Max Crosby, guy with face, mop. I'm good with that. I mean, I'm not good with that technically, but you get the idea.

Just go get him. It's 773 texted, get her done. Yes. Technically, I think the spelling is G-I-T-E-R. D-U-N. Yeah, you've got it done. That's a spell check thing right there, for sure. Your auto-correct is not your friend.

I can get her done. It's not. 2-24. I don't want Max. What happens if he gets injured? We are screwed. Fill the team with as many good players as you can. Versus one great and then a bunch of buster.

Who said a bunch of busters? So Jalen Johnson's a buster, right? Montes-Swed is a buster, right? Kyle Gorton a buster? Are these busters? I'm sorry. I know. We've got to go to break.

but I want people to get on board, Ray, or get out the way. Yeah, I mean, those are your options here. That is a, that is some wild salary cap math and some restructuring that has to happen. But we've seen it happen. Coming up next year on 104.3, the score, we want to check in with Adam Hogue. Adam Hogue will join us to have some of this combine discussion and also what he's heard regarding Senate Bill 27 in Indiana and also the pilot bill that is set to take place that the legislator is meeting on in Illinois right now.

So we'll talk to him about all of those things next. Adam Hogg says, Adam Hogue, Bears Insider. What's up, everyone? My name's Adam Hogue. Host of the Hogan John's podcast. What I like about this coachies staff, it's like the 100 guys in a bar theory.

When 100 guys in the bar are all screaming the same thing, that usually means that they're on to something, even if it's 100 guys in a bar. Like, that's what I think about this with Colson Lovell. And so snap counts go up. Johnsey, it is that time for another high draft pick, Luther Burdett. Adam Hogue. Adam Hogi or Hogg, excuse me, I don't know how to pronounce the last name.

With Rahimi Harrison Grody on Chicago Sports Radio, 1043 to score. Adam Hogue, joining us on our hotline on 1043 to score on Rahimi Harrison Grotie. We are happy to talk to him. He is the host of the CHGO Bears coverage and the Hogan Johns podcast. And Adam, the hearing in the Illinois State House has been going on right now regarding the Bears Infrastructure Bill. What have you observed so far because it's been happening during our show? Yeah, it's been super interesting. I didn't really expect to be at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis watching a House committee,

revenue and finance committee meeting going on in Springfield, Illinois. but it's been going on for a while. At this point, there has been no vote. I don't know if that will happen while we're talking here. What I would say, though, is there's a lot. It seems like, from what I've been able to observe, more support than opponents for what was introduced just last night as part of basically adding a bunch of language to an existing shell bill

to try to advance this thing, which is now House Bill 9-10. However, there's a lot of questions. And even from proponents that are in there saying that, you know, their plan on supporting this bill today, there's, and it's like way too nuanced and detail to get into, but it basically all has to do with like who's going to have the power in these local municipalities to give these, you know,

to basically vote to give the tax certainty to these private companies. and they're all having these discussions trying to have it very more vaguely in a way that, hey, this is a statewide thing for projects all over the state. We all know that this is all advancing because of what's going out at the Bear Stadium. I would say the most interesting thing I did not expect to happen in this committee, and even the committee members seemed a little caught off guard by it, is the new acting CFO of Chicago, Stephen Marr, being one of the opponents that spoke and all of a sudden basically was pushing for Chicago

to still have an opportunity at the table and, you know, to try to keep the bears in Chicago. That kind of derailed things for a little bit. And there were some fair questions, I thought, thrown back at him by Representative Tarver, who's the chairman of the Revenue and Finance Committee, basically being like, well, wait a minute. You guys were in this in 2023. you guys had that press conference in 2024 with the Bears. There were statements put out. Like, why exactly, like, you had this opportunity.

Why are you asking for this opportunity now? So that was just one of the more weird things that happened so far in this committee. They kind of got things back on track to more of a statewide issue after that. But I was not expecting all of a sudden the city of Chicago to try to jump back into the conversation today. Not only did they jump back into the conversation, which was. as agreed, random as hell. But also, wasn't he chewing gum while making his pitch?

I was trying to figure that out. Basically, the whole time he was talking. I'm like, does he have a mint in his mouth? Is there gum? It was distracting. I felt the same way. Not to be a get-off my long girl here, but you can pick one or the other, but you can't do both.

Like, you can't just randomly insert yourself into the chat and be chewing gum at the same time. Now, I will say, The one thing that I thought was interesting in, and I don't want to start making this like a Chicago thing, because I think it applies to everyone involved in this, whether we're talking about Arlington Heights, Indiana, or the city of Chicago. One of the things that Stephen Marr did say to kind of defend the city on all this was as they were having discussions with the Bears, one of the problems that they were having was, and he said, quote, truly receiving commitment from the Bears on what they want to do. And that is very similar to what Governor Pritzker said last week, right?

And some of his public conversations basically be like, like the bears need to be a little bit more clear here on what they want to do. Now, obviously, they're trying to play all these sides to try to get the best deal possible. You know, and ideally advance this legislation they need in Illinois to build their big mega project in Arlington Heights. But I do think that that has frustrated all parties. And to bring this back to Indiana today where I am currently. currently at just steps away from the Capitol where they're expected to vote to advance their bill in the Senate today.

You know, it seems like everybody's on board in Indiana, but I do have, that is one of my remaining questions, like, what type of commitment are they truly getting from the bears on this right now? And is there anything they can do at the last minute to try to get a little bit more of a firm commitment before they actually go through and send this to Governor Braun's desk? Adam, are you familiar with the term breadcrumbing? Vaguely. So breadcrumbing is when you lead someone on and give them just enough to make them feel like,

oh, yeah, there's still genuine interest there. I feel like the bears are breadcrumming right now. And I think the question, the delineation I'm trying to make as I follow this process, just like you're following this process, is whether or not they're trying to be prudent and smart in keeping their options open or they're just flat out clumsy. And I lean towards the clumsy because there's no real reason to give them the benefit of a doubt right now. Yeah, look, I think it's a fair point. It's fair question.

I've had similar conversations many times this week as I've been, and last week, too, following the story. The weird thing is, though, is this might all end up. Even if it is clumsy, and I think there's some, you know, plenty of examples that people can point to to support that notion, it could all work out. You know what I mean? Like if it all led and what, you know, I think there was definitely miscommunications

and it was a big flunky at least last week and how, and we know from the governor that the statement they put out really pushing hard for Indiana and supporting, you know, complimenting Indiana for, the significant step in their stadium developments, really rubbed them the wrong way. Like there is some of that all going on.

But at the same time, you can also argue that, you know, since I talked to you guys last Thursday and the last week, it has really advanced these talks in a productive way with both sides. Now, the Bears and the state of Illinois now saying that they have,

you know, made a lot of progress. You know, I heard Representative Bukker, on the score earlier, you know, repeat that. phrasing today. So, you know, as clumsy as it may have been at some times,

like it could all end up working out the way that everybody had kind of thought it was going to this entire time with the Bears ending up in Ireland tonight. And that's why I think, Adam, that there's also, I was so frustrated last week because if that's the case, I better hope you're not wasting the time and efforts of everybody in Indiana, too. You know, like, think about how, think about how, think about how we all thought this was a lot farther along this time last week than we did once the events of that day started unfolding. You know, I read your tweet earlier about how the mayor of Hammond holds his press conference,

and then he can't even tell people the exact site it's going to be on. Right, yeah. Look, and I went to that press conference and I walked away from it, honestly, with some major red flags because, you know, not only was it the site, but I asked him specifically, you know, the, the two billion that the, you know, the lawmakers in Indiana had said, you know, champion that morning that the bears were going to be putting towards the, you know, let's just call it a mega project in Indiana. Because what specifically was that money going to go towards? And like, there was no answer on that either. So we didn't have a site. We didn't, you know, we think we know what the site is, right? But we don't know specifically around that Wolf Lake area. then it came out too that like there's some major questions about that area so there was just the tone shifted I thought quite dramatically from that morning to that afternoon by the time that the mayor had the mayor Hammond had his press

conference later in the day and so I do I do think that that's a fair point and you know since I'm back on with you guys like the thing that and maybe I wasn't clear enough about this like that I wanted to make sure was clear today was, you know, the legislation, the deal with Indiana is what I was referring to and Phil referring to. I put it in my story last night. You know, they're at the finish line or goal line since everybody wanted to make a big deal of that phrasing and that's fine. But that doesn't mean the bears have to take the deal. And I thought that, you know, in the other 18 minutes I was on with you guys, I brought up many examples, including the Patriots, literally signing a deal with Connecticut,

and then backing out on that. And I'm going to continue to say this until shovels are actually in the ground, in the ground, either in Arlington Heights or this unknown site in Indiana, there's going to be movement on all this thing. It is going to be fluid. But the actual deal in place, and I will still say this right now this morning, as they are making progress in Illinois, it's at the finish line. It could literally be going to the governor's desk in Indiana,

whereas we're talking right now during a committee meeting in Illinois, where there are, when I got off that and, you know, answered the phone call here to talk to you guys, still many, many fair questions coming up on how this is all really going to affect so many people across the state of Illinois for a bill that really is about the Bear Stadium, but they're trying to expand it to all these municipalities. And it's a very different situation across the state of Illinois, depending if you're by Chicago or the Chicago suburbs or out by Rockford or down,

state, you know, so a lot of people are going to be affected by this. Adam Hogue, the host of CHGO Bears and the Hogan-John's podcast joining us here on Rahimi Harris and Grotio on 104-3 The Score. Adam, I'm curious, do you get a sense that this thing might not get out of

committee today and like how big of a setback would that be? So as I jumped off to talk to you guys, I didn't really I've been told now for a couple days, but especially started to aggressively kind of change yesterday, almost about the same time in the day, that there was optimism that this would at least ask the committee with the hope,

and this was actually something I wasn't totally completely aware of until yesterday, that it would get to the House floor today because they're about to adjourn for two weeks, you know, with the primaries coming up, spring break, whatever you want to call it, until March 18. And right now, because of what's going on in the pressure of Indiana, which I think we can all agree and acknowledge is at least enough pressure that it's pushed. It's greatly accelerated the talks in Illinois this week. Can they afford to take a two-week break right now from all of this progress that they've made in the last seven days? And truly the last five days because they weren't talking for a couple days until that statement from Kevin Warren came out on Saturday. To answer your question, though, I didn't sense enough opposition in what I watched for over an hour that it wouldn't pass the committee.

I was hearing, though, you know, some skepticism that it would actually get to a floor vote today. And if it did, that it would actually pass because there is still questions about how many votes they would actually have from the city of Chicago. I do think it was significant in my reporting last night that of all of the sponsors that could have been on this legislation that was pushed. That's now House Bill 910. It was Cam Buckner's office that filed it almost just symbolically to me because he has represented the city's interest in all of this for so long. That felt significant. I think we all kind of agree on that. So I think the goal is, guys, even if this doesn't actually go to a House.

floor vote today or even if it does and it doesn't pass that they're hoping that the progress they showed here especially in the last 24 48 hours is enough to at least prevent the bears from taking what is sitting there right now in Indiana and it's just kind of the latest good faith measure that i think illinois trying to do to essentially create more runway because they still need more runway all of this is not going to get answered in front of figured out, you know, by the end of today, there's just no chance really of that happening. Yeah, I agree. I think, unfortunately, this is a, this is welcome to politics. The city of Chicago, though, entering his competition is a bit of a plot twist I did not see coming. So that's,

that's pretty compelling. Thank you so much, Adam. Thanks, Adam. Yeah. Thanks, guys. Have a great day. You too. That's Adam Hogue from the NFL Combine talking about an Illinois meeting in Illinois, because it's just one of those days. I feel like I'm going to be disappointing at the end of this day with where this is, not winners versus losers, but just like the lack of progress in general. It's been, we've been doing this for three years, really three and a half. I thought you were going to say 84 years, but three years works. No, it's been, it's been three and a half years.

No need to get hyperbolic when the three and a half years hits home. You know, I have a lot of stuff in my closet. I haven't worn in a couple of years. I feel like it's kind of the same. You know you're supposed to get rid of stuff if you go a whole year without wearing it, right? Yeah, but in our business, when you, you know, the wardrobe is curated and stuff and it's part of a tool. It's a little different, I think. But either way, there's a metaphor to be had here.

I just don't know what it is off the top of my head. Coming up next year, I'm Rahimi Harrison Grady. How about some fun? I love fun. New dating term just dropped. Oh, no. I think you're going to like it. We just had to explain breadcrumbing to Adam Hogue.

You know why? Because Hogue would never. Fair. He's a diligent man. He's a diligent man. And happily married. Hogue would never. That's how he got a wife by not breadcrumbing.

That I do know. The reliability of Adam Hogue. So new toxic dating term next. What time is it? It's half time. It's half time here on Rahimi Harris and Grotie. And we are all waiting to see what's going to happen with a couple of bills today. You know, hot bill.

talk. That's totally what you want to hear a sports station talk about. Can we pass these bills? I mean, seriously, can you pay our automobiles? Then maybe we could chill. Our sponsor today for the segment is almost free teeth.com because confidence should never cost a fortune. So yeah, we're keeping watch on the Indiana Senate Bill 27. And we're also keeping watch on the bill in the state of Illinois regarding both the Bears infrastructure bill for Arlington Heights and a potential Bear Stadium in Indiana. So we're continuing. continuing to wait because that's what we do. In the meantime, Jordan Schultz dropped a couple of really big nuggets about possibilities

for Bears' trades, including naming Jervand Dexter, DJ Moore now with sources that NFL teams have asked about him, and Tyson Bajon. And he'll join us at 1225 from the Combine. We love it. And Adam Hogue talked to us as well, and he is paying attention to that Illinois meeting from the NFL Combine. Thank God that Bears have the 25th pick. How do we get this all done if they were like,

pick number 10 or something. It's laptop. Marshall Harris, if there's one thing I know about you, you love a good combination word. A word made out of two other words that has a whole new meaning. Hyphenated or non-hyphenation? This is non-hyphenated.

Additionally, I know you love a good dating term. And on top of all of that, I know you love to discuss dating behavior. So this was like a triple check for me when I was like, well, Marshall liked this. I'm listening. You have my attention. The headline is, there's a new dating trend called ghost lighting. It's even worse than ghosting.

And apparently worse than gas lighting as well? Yes. There's a toxic new dating trend. I left the toxic word out. I feel like it's just understood at this point, isn't it? The dating world is getting more harrowing by the minute. Don't we know it? Just when you thought ghosting or disappearing on someone, you're dating without warning, wasn't enough of a problem. The trend has entered the zeitgeist that's even worse, called ghost lighting.

Essentially a toxic combo of ghosting and gaslighting. Ghost lighters drop all communication only to reinitiate contact later as if nothing ever happened. Oh. This is what happens to me go on a side quest, you know?

Go to side quest. Like, say to, I don't know, Indiana. Sure. And you're like, well, we bet to have that meeting the whole time. What are you talking about? I'm good with the Bears' like side quest version of this. And then would you say they ghost slighted, Illinois? Let's read and figure it out.

Maybe Indiana. To make matters worse, they'll often try to gaslight the person they were dating into believing there was no ghosting in the first place. We, okay. We all just look at each other. We know, we know people who do this. We all 100% know people who do this. Is the person in the room with that? us right now? I don't think so.

Okay. To be clear, we are in separate rooms. Okay. Instead of owning it, they brush it off. Like, it's no big deal and then make an excuse. Like, it seemed like you were super busy, so I didn't want to bother you, said Amy Chan, a dating expert, an author of Unsingle, How to Date Smarter and Create Love That Last. That book is coming out in April. What makes it different from simple ghosting is the psychological twist. Ghosting is avoidance.

Ghost lighting adds distortion by manipulating the facts so you doubt your own reality. You know where I actually think this might be useful? Tell me. Work. Tell me how. Give me the context of doing this at work. People with real jobs. Hear me out here.

If like something's due or something like there, you need to touch base about something or circle back or drill down or whatever you guys call. You are using every term I've heard in an office space. Go ahead. Talk offline, if you will. You know, and then you're like, and then you just avoid. the conversation and they're like, oh, I was meant to do that. What are you talking about?

You just seem busy. You had a lot of projects going on. I didn't want to add to your stack of projects. Like, we're live every day. So, you know, it's a very direct process for me. But for those of you who have indirect processes, this might seem useful. Kick the can down the road until Monday. Ghost lighting.

Or like, kind of like the salary cap, you know. Oh, yeah. Restructure. Hey, where's that extension? Silence. We always meant to talk about that extension. What are you talking about? Like, you just seem busy.

I had to restructure some other things and make some other moves so that I could get back to this extension that you're talking about, Lila. What do you mean? Ooh, ooh, how about this? Ghostlighting can take many forms. It can happen when the ghost lighter. I don't know why that term cracks me up so much. Text you out of the blue. It can happen when they suddenly engage with your posts on social media.

That seems like. the subtle and direct way to do it. Like, that's the best way to do it is to engage with the social media. I am of the camp that if you look at my story, it means nothing. But that's just me. It can happen when they try to subtly slide back into your DMs.

Oh, the previous thing you said was about actually commenting or liking your actual post. Okay. The main timeline type deal. I got you. And then DMs is a separate. That is aggressive. That is it. Yeah. Likeing the Instagram story is a step up. Looking at it is even a step. Ghost Lighting

rise should come as no surprise. After all, thanks to dating apps and more people meeting online in general, daters tend to stay in a state of ambiguity with each other for longer than they did in the past, and ain't that the truth? This is a handy term and frankly describes a couple people I know. Have you had ghost sliders? Or, sorry. Yes. I thought I was saying the term wrong, but it is ghost sliding. And how do you think me, who's not passive aggressive, just aggressive? How do you think, think I dealt with that. Either by ignoring or responding very strongly. Bingo.

Nothing in the middle. Yes, it's true. 5-7-4 says they're just going to stay home with their cat. Is your cat nice? I like a lot of animal videos online. I don't have an animal myself because I'm out of the house for too long. Huh. Ghost like the whip.

Okay. What? I was reading comments. That is being set to us 614. That doesn't. Is there something I'm missing there? I don't know. I said it because I thought we could workshop through that.

But also 815, I heard a week ago of purposely ghosting someone, then they actually like you, they'll find a way to contact you. And what I would say is you have just lowered your value with people who don't play games. What are we doing, friends? But why does this also seem to apply to today, for example, in the news? I'm telling you, I think the Bears ghost-lighted the state of Illinois when they went off with their side quest of Indiana had the statements, the dual statements.

That was a week ago today, right? And now, guess what? They've reappeared with Illinois like nothing ever happened. Like, what do you mean? This is just part of the process. And they're ghost lighting Indiana now in turn. Someone's always getting ghostlit. Oh, no.

Oh, no. Somebody makes a really good point here, 815. Almost like the Dita system from It's Always Sunny. Well, let's check the Dita system, shall we? Demonstrate value, engage physically, nurture dependence, Emotionally, inspire hope, separate entirely. Oh, that is a system.

That is a very, if you don't know that system's coming, you can get, you can get got through that system. So ghost lighting is Dennis Reynolds from its always sunny in Philadelphia. I don't think so, because I think ghost lighting is more direct than the Dennis system. It's that inspire hope part. Ooh, that's rough, yeah. When you really want to extinguish the flame. Well, apparently there's now a sinned system, which is Dennis backwards, and that's a different one. We should have gone to the Chris Kindle market, guys.

We never got to go. No, no, no. We should not have. I'm sorry, you should have, not me. Won't catch me at the Chris Kendall market. Oh, we got more explanation. Ghost Ride the Whip is a term for high-fi rap music. Is that what that word is supposed to be on the text line?

I believe so. That's the play when they say Ghost Light the Whites. Nice. Thank you. Thank you for helping me learn something today. Five on it next.