RAWTALK - Adam22 and Lena the Plug talk XXXtentacion, a Public Private Life, No Jumper, and where it all began

Episode Date: July 23, 2018

Adam22 and Lena the Plug talk XXXtentacion, a Public private life, no jumper podcast, and how it all began...after spending time lifting with Adam22 and doing the podcast with him and lena the plug i was hyped to hear that Adam22 has an affinity for old school bodybuilding and obviously is a music industry connoisseur..and is somehow ahead of the curve of up and coming soundcloud hip-hop artists. all in all spending time with adam22 and lena the plug was definitely a good time!

Very good. Okay, cool. All right, what's going on, guys? I can't do my corny intro, my YouTube intro on the podcast. I can't do it. No, I don't think it's something I can do now. I try to keep that in mind, too, is the little, like, what's up guys? I try to, like, not speak to the camera as if I'm speaking to, like, some specific dude.

I try to remember that. There's a bunch of people listening. Yeah. Yeah. How long have you been doing, well, first off, let's introduce both. guys and then we'll get into it so you go you can introduce yourself because you're good at it uh i'm adam 22 i'm a bmx rider turned sort of hip hop youtube entrepreneur i guess is the easiest way to say it uh and then this is my lovely girlfriend lena the plug who is a bit of a an instagram model

i guess i suppose you could say youtubeer cam girl uh very searchable on porn hub um and a YouTuber as well yeah very searchable on porn hub depending on what week it is this is a real thing so i i i've I've watched some stuff, I've read some comments. Is this a, do you like... I have a private Snapchat, which means I sell porn on Snapchat. People have to pay for it on Snapchat. And then it gets leaked and it ends up on Porn Hub. And it happened so often last year that I was the third most searched porn star

in the celebrity section. And he's always in my video. So he's like... Slanging dick. Yeah. Yeah. So he's, I've made him kind of a porn story. Yeah.

This is interesting. So like... That's why I said don't search is too hard. You know, this is a real thing then. So I have a question. What do you think about the girl? girls who they like they have a private snapchat but they're like oh i don't i don't but i don't do that what do you mean i know girls who have private snapchats but they make it seem like they're

not doing because what is it essentially it's like they're not i mean they're not maybe they're all doing porn but they're taking because why would someone i think it's porn it's just not porn with like a in the traditional sense where you're filming for a company you know it's like self-created she hasn't done like real porn i've only ever like you know done stuff with adam on it and other girls who usually do porn yeah so what's a reaction what do you get like a a reaction to that? I mean, you know, if you had asked me, like, a couple years ago, like, would you ever do porn?

I would have just said no. But then over time, it just kept being like, oh, I would film a Snapchat clip of, like, her and another girl giving me head. And then I would, you know, get it deleted in the morning and, you know, get my account deleted. But then that stuff would end up on porn up. And then, like, a bunch of people would be hitting me up saying, hey, I saw your penis. And I was just like, whatever.

I don't care. And then. I want him to get more into it. Like, I was like, I want to do a fitness thing where, like, I'm just wearing these hot tights and he just rips them open. And like a full on production But like for my Snapchat I want to own it all the time

But he's like I mean He's always borderline Her best bet for making money Is just to go further And further into the porn world And my best bet to make money Is not necessarily that

But you know It's like we just But if I bring another girl He's always down I'm like I'm gonna do a fitness porn With another girl He's like oh can I be a dick In the porn

Can I like be involved in some way This is such It's so unorthodox It's so like a taboo thing I wasn't doing this when I met him So I kind of started doing it because he no he was he was making his own he was his own boss and I was like I want to be my own fucking boss and then I had the Snapchat thing come to me because I had a

following and people kept asking me if I had a private Snapchat and so I was like what do you think of this and I think it's cool I think you should do it and I'm like all is it so I'm assuming it's like it's a good business yeah yeah it's and it's and it's literally it's like sex it's ironic though because like I mean it's not ironic at all what she does is like 95% like just her by herself and then one's on a blue moon it'll be another girl or it will be me yeah so is it toy stuff it's just like sexual stuff is it like solo stuff sometimes it could be like a dance sometimes it's like baby oil on me like it's not always so like serious but it is in my opinion way better money than porn that's why if you're doing porn you got to go

and get fucking double anal for 1500 bucks and be on set for 12 hours a day she pretty much is like just chilling in the bathtub like filming a couple clips and putting them online that day and you know what's wild too is the way that like the internet in general like they it's like you can go to porn hub and just see this stuff or go look at your stuff and go see it but like people go to youtube to try and like you know on youtube like the some of the most viewed stuff is like there's a girl's ass in the thumbnail like something that's kind of sexual but they made it so hard to put sexual shit in the thumbnails these days yeah yeah and the titles the game has changed is different you got to be very artful with your titles now strategic it's interesting though how

like people look for it on youtube but why don't i'm just like why don't you go to porn hub a lot of my porn star interviews are like my biggest interviews that i've done like our friend riley reed I did interview with her, huge. Like, people must search her name, like crazy on there. On your podcast. On YouTube. But then they just find her interview, and I mean, I guess that's kind of a unique thing that I do sometimes is just do, like, in-depth interviews with porn stars, because normally people don't really do that, or the questions they ask are, like, you know,

do you like getting eaten out? It's like boring-ass questions, you know? It's always the same stupid questions that they get asked on set right before they film, like, the intro. And you talk about, what do you talk about with them, like, deep questions? Yeah, I try to just treat them, like, regular people, I get deep with them and ask them about their motivation and shit, you know. Yeah. It's kind of unique sometimes.

So how did you, how did you get started? Like, why were you like, this is what I want to do? Because the boss thing being your own boss? And he was like, I think you just try this. Like I was, I didn't have a lot of money. I was really like, I was working for somebody else, making minimum wage. And I just kind of like got a following at that point. It was very big.

But the Snapchat thing just was really obvious because I had a lot of followers on Snapchat. And so I quit my job and started doing that and was killing it immediately. Paid off all my debt. And now I'm here. I love it. Hell yeah. I didn't mean to hijack your podcast, by the way. No, I mentioned the porn of things.

We respect women. Yeah, yeah, for sure. No, it's dope. And I don't, I'm not here to judge any of that. I think, like, I think it's dope that someone's able to, like, make a business like that. Yeah, for me, it's all about just, like, being able to control what I do with my time and not, like, having to work for someone else. That's, like, the number one motivator behind it.

I respect it. I have a lot of respect for it. And then I want to talk more about you, too. What, what we did the workout, it's on my channel, maybe some footage on your vlog channel. But the thing that I really respect about you that I didn't really necessarily know until today you've owned a physical place like you've owned a bike stop a bike stop a bike shop on some shit yeah meryl's for like the last 10 years well so i started my business basically when i was 22 i started like a just you know i was i was playing online poker all the time that's what

i was doing for a few years there i was just playing online poker every day and i was doing pretty good money-wise but i hated my life so it's about 2006 this is when like all the rap blogs started to sort of come out and i saw that because i've always been a huge rap fan but i was also super deep in the BMX world and spent a lot of time on message boards and stuff so I was like you know what I'm just gonna create like a blog where I can post all these YouTube videos and MySpace videos and sponsorship news and all this kind of stuff basically like you know I'm sure there's a million bodybuilding websites so the same thing now but this is like really early on and none of the BMX media

companies were like trying to compete like online so I just kind of killed it doing that that started going well but after a little while I started like my own brand in 2008 which is on some shit you know so I have the come up which was like the BMX media entity and then I started on some shit to be sort of like me and my friends like clothing company when you started the first thing sorry to interrupt you how old were you i was 22 okay because you're 34 i'm 29 i think 2008 when i started a twitter i must have been like 16 yeah that's crazy and you had started that that because i remember like this is when none of this shit was as popular it was

literally not even close to what it is but now like the the blueprint is there like if you want to be a popular person on the internet it's like very easy to see like oh i'm gonna do the shit that Jake Paul does and the shit that this person did, you know? Recreating your own way. 2006 or whatever, it was like very hard to figure out. And once I started a business with the blog thing, it's like, how do you monetize that? I had to go and, like, figure out how to actually accept ads from all these businesses and everything. Whereas nowadays, it's like, you can get a brand deal or you can get YouTube ads.

And that's very, like, simple. Yeah, people are trying to find you for the most part if you're popular. Because now it's actually an established thing. Back then, it was a little bit more difficult. But yeah, the awesome shit thing, like about five years ago, we started our bike shop in downtown in LA and did that for three years and then we've been on Melrose for like two years and we saw mostly like clothing and stuff but we do sell bikes and parts and everything as well we do a lot of events we do the podcast out of the back nice I was gonna just want to say I had a lot

of respect for that because it's like I understand because I've been doing all myself social media like on the internet and until the last like year and a few months I've opened this gym zoo culture and it's like I it's because I'm assuming you have employees you got to deal with like all the government shit payroll stuff I I know how hard it is yeah and I guess when you first started out you had a partner then did he help you like get through like i started everything like on my own but then after a few years like around 2011 there's this dude alfredo mancuso uh who i met and he's like a pro bmx rider and everything and he sort of just like partnered with me on the shop and everything so that we could sort of like uh you know he has just

more of like a business oriented mind like it's just more dialed then when it comes to that kind of thing so he's been helping me out a lot for like the past eight years in terms of just you know making things work with the bike shop and everything organizing and stuff and then it just keeps like growing like bigger and bigger like the no jumper thing was you know that was just like a side thing that i was doing because we had the bmx business going and stuff i just started interviewing a few rappers here and there and it just sort of took yeah i want to talk about that because that's what's really interesting because i came up to you at the at the fussy con whatever you want to call it july 15th and um i was like yo the thing that i because i i'm i'm definitely a fan of hip-hop

i'm definitely a fan of music in general so i look at like i'll even go my instagram i think most of stuff and my explorers like hip-hop stuff or you know the things that start to generate and I started seeing a lot of your stuff in the last like six months six months I'd say it became more and more prevalent yeah how like how did you go from BMX bike shop owner and like BMX enthusiast to like rappers it really was just like that one little opportunity because I was friends with this dude Xavier Wolf who's like a pretty popular underground rapper and he lives in LA and we were really like hanging out like he would come to the shop every day like he'd

had a girlfriend that lived down the street and he would just come hang out with us to smoke some weed after she went to work or whatever and over time I was just like yo I'm starting this podcast you want to do an interview he was the second interview I ever did and it just went way bigger than any of the BMX interviews at the time you know so that just sort of like open my eyes to the fact of like oh like because my whole life I've been obsessed with rap since I was like 10 years old yeah that was the moment where I was like damn like I could actually have a say in this culture like I could actually make content that people will give a shit about you know but we're still talking about, like, relatively underground rappers,

like, that whole scene of, like, you know, we hadn't seen Lil'Pump or X, like, pop out of that scene. Yeah, you did one of the first interviews with X, right? Yeah, I did his first interview, like, over two years ago when he first, first started to get a little bit of a buzz, and that was definitely probably the biggest interview for me just in the sense that it's the reason why all the labels started talking to me and, like, when they sort of realized I had, like, an eye for talent,

like, really early on. And just he ended up becoming, like, this character that was so enigmatic, and so out of hand, but that interview just, like, stood out in everybody's mind. When you, when you first talked to him, you first met him, like, or you first interviewed him, what was that like? I mean, if you watch that interview, it's a roller coaster, like, he's talking about violence, like, he's just so, like, he was just a crazy-ass kid. Like, he was, like, emotional, heartfelt, but also, like, describing violent acts that

he's been in and describing about, like, how much, he really kind of predicted, like, how much he was going to accomplish through music and everything. And, like, even that. He predicted it. in a lot of ways yeah like he knew he was as talented as like a lot of people ended up accepting that he was you know like he even when he had like when i interviewed him he had i think 15 000 sound cloud followers versus you know many many millions by the time he passed but he had 15 000 when you first heard that yeah holy shit i just saw a little something in him but the thing is is that he even at that time he would say i'm already huge like i'm already huge like it's just that you know i have a small coat but he could tell like his engagement like really on like a strict like Instagram level at that time was like nothing I'd ever seen before like he just had kids losing their fucking minds about him even though he was really really small that's and it's and so what do you think about what happened to him

I mean I think it's just the most terrible thing to have to deal with just to like see him just go out in the most regular ass way ever but I mean it kind of says a lot about him a lot of the people I know like pump or yachti would not be rolling around in a car with $50,000 by themselves No security in their own city. That's what I was like, what the fuck? Yeah. But like someone had to know that he was by himself. See, he was the kind of guy that really wasn't trying to hear shit.

So it doesn't really surprise me that he would be like, oh, no security around. Fuck it. I'm going by myself, you know, like, he was the kind of guy that you really couldn't tell shit to. And even when you think about that moment where they put the pistol to him and they said, they probably were like, yo, give me the money. He probably could have got out of there by just giving them the money and just. Yeah, I heard he said what the fuck's going on. He probably was like, fuck you.

Like, you know, he wasn't trying to hand that shit over. And I mean, in a way, doesn't surprise me because that's just who he was he just wasn't the kind of person it's crazy because he didn't he didn't need to keep it no 50,000's jack shit to him if you knew him at all like I just heard with their phone calls together he's a hot head he thinks he's invincible like he one time facetimed adam and was like your girlfriend loves me she just doesn't know it yet like he was convinced oh my god savage he was always testing the water because he's the kind of guy who just wanted to like own some sort of like uh territory and like any girl's brain like he

he would tell girls that they were in love with him and like it would just work out like a surprisingly large percentage of the time so I saw he was trying it out on her one time like he was kind of like you know I know your girlfriend wants to sleep and she's like what like because I made a smash the past video with rappers and I said no to him and he watched it and just called oh no no he's like that was she was lying but that was just him that he was just like he was just he would poke and prod at any part of your life to just try to like figure out like what he could fuck with you know and that was just I mean that was him when he was super young too like by the time later in his life like and i know it's only like two years

but like later in his life by the time he passed it's like you couldn't have a conversation with him about some basic shit he sort of like elevated himself to like a different level of like trying to really spread peace and love to people and that's why it's so hard to see people like try to treat him as if he was this villain you know yeah and that's something that i see and i'm like you know so this guy did something when he's in i mean this even happened and i'm not defending this person at all but logan paul happened to him and he did some dumb shit did a lot of dumb shit but they i think what people don't understand is like I'm 29 now and I don't I can't say that when I was 20 or 19 that I wouldn't have done some dumb shit yeah when I had that power when I look back when

I was 19 I'm like oh I was an idiot I didn't know what the fuck what's going on I was a 100% can agree and I think people like I don't know if they look at people like who are who have that presence or that that the numbers a follower the money and they're like you should know better than these other people but it's the circumstances are so different I think and you see everyone's like everyone always shows his opinion at certain things like what he did or didn't do or didn't do, right? And it's like, well, what the fuck were you doing when you were 19? So I don't know.

I see stuff like that. I'm not defending these people by any means because I don't, I'm not in all these situations. I don't walk in their shoes. But I think sometimes like maybe it would do the people on the outside some good as like not like, you know, give it a different perspective because you're only going to come from your own. But like maybe slow down and think about instead of someone else is doing and what

they're doing. Like maybe just focus on being better for yourself. I mean, at the end of the day, it's like a fucking 20 year old black kid gets shot in the street and these people are happy about it yeah no matter how you because he might have smacked a girl or done whatever like i mean you got to be a real sick fuck to like the same people that are like you know extremely upset when a kid gets shot by the cops or whatever and those same people who can't even find it within themselves to have some empathy for a kid who was abandoned as a kid who was clearly the victim of abuse maybe he grew up and like you know had to have some kinks to work out

but yeah i just think it's sick and that's what i'm saying it's because like they have some money they have some followers and people are like you should you should be a certain way but at the end of day that person's still just a human and they're still learning a lot of the time people who are criticizing someone or the people who are happy about his downfall aren't the people listening to his music they're not the one saying you have followers you should be better they're just like that

yeah they just see the situation or like oh that that guy's wrong they don't even listen to music they don't listen to rap like that anyway so they don't understand his impact on the culture they can only see him as this monster because they don't care about the art you know yeah so as far as his impact what do you think his biggest impact was on I think his biggest impact is just like the his attitude towards what rap music could be he got famous for making this like very specific type of like aggressive distorted hip hop

and then by the time it was he was ready to put his first album out he just went in a million different directions and I think that's going to be a big part of his impact on people is showing all these kids out there that like you don't have to be boring one thing stick with this one thing like he basically made like a fucking campfire rock album I noticed it I know I When he passed away, I had listened to a few songs. I wasn't like a super big fan because I didn't know much about it and listened. And then he passed away and I listened to like, I've listened to his like current stuff. But now since then I've listened to all his stuff.

And I looking back, I was like, holy shit, this kid was like, he was all the way up here and then all the way, like, as far as variation. And it, I was like, I didn't even know he had some music that was like, there's like straight rock music. It's like completely different type music. And I know so many rappers and like almost none of them would I ever expect to make that kind of decision but for him that was a no-brainer like he had to push at the edges of whatever he was doing he was never happy he was never satisfied yeah okay and i'm sorry i don't want to get this i don't want to

make this all about him i want to talk more about you but i just i was interested like genuinely because i know you had a different connection with him i really feel like that was my little brother like i can't think of anybody else that's like that like i mean somebody like a little pump i would kind of say the same thing about or whatever but for me it's like i was always just sitting back so proud of watching everything they accomplished you know and then to see it all get ripped away for nothing was hard but at the same time i feel like in some way like his contribution or his his impact is going to be bigger through his passing than it might have even been with him alive you know like how they talk about pock and stuff exactly um we'll never get to

see the boring ass 40 year old version of x will only will only be able to remember the young volatile version of them which is it's sad because i would like to know what a 45 year old ex album would have been like but at the same time a lot of people who have the biggest impacts are the People who are not around for that long. Yeah, they got cut away short. Damn, dude. Yeah, rest in peace, on that note. And it's always hard to switch topics on this one.

But who else have you interviewed that, like, you really, like, really made an impact on you? Because it sounds like it really made an impact on you. Obviously, because of the circumstances, but also, like, what you experience with. I mean, a big one for me earlier on was Yadi. Like, I just did a little Yadi interview that was, like, his first interview before anybody knew about him, really. and he walked in to do the interview and he was with Coach K who was like the manager for Migos

and all these dudes so as soon as I see him with Coach K I'm like you're managing him now and coach is like yep I'm like oh shit that was a crazy one because I'm like oh he's gonna blow up like Coach K doesn't put his time

into rappers that aren't gonna kill it you know and then that was a crazy one and then I was lucky enough to like almost two years later to do another interview with him where we got to fully like catch up on everything he had accomplished what he'd been through his mentality

on where he was at in the rap game and when I first did that interview with Yadi I liked him a lot but at the same time he was kind of like a 17 year old dumbass like he was just a little goofball kid and then two years later I'm interviewing him seeing the world made millions of dollars

fucked every fucking girl he met blah blah blah like it was just he had just grown so much and I again had that like proud dad feeling of just sitting there and being like fuck like I wasn't even around for this transformation I've only like talked to you here and there throughout this time but you've fucking grown so much

and I'm just so proud to have been a part of that storyline, even if it was just the guy doing a couple of interviews, you know? Yeah, that's huge. It meant a lot to me. So let me ask you a question. As far as, like, I don't ask you how you got into it, but how are you finding the, you know, you said you worked with the Audi before. You kind of blew up.

You found X. Like, how did you, how are you finding these people? Is it like you're looking on SoundCloud? You're looking on YouTube. How are you finding these people? I just was always the kind of guy that was like, you know, and I have other friends like this, my friend Alex from ain't nobody cool that like we are in constant conversation about like new

rappers coming out that was like always something I was doing for free like just being interested in like you know oh there's this new rapper name little pump two years ago like what do you think of him let's watch his videos that's all sit around and talk about him like that's what we do in the stream that's what we're doing the podcast that's what I was doing for 20 years before I started making money doing it you know that was just always and I think that that's who it is like the guy who's going to win in the bodybuilder YouTube space is going to be the guy who is already super fucking into it I'm glad you're talking about Or years beforehand, and the guy who comes in and it's just like, yo, I'm going to reinvent the fucking wheel.

And, like, is a fake participant in the culture is never going to win. You know? Yeah. I was already this dude before I started making money doing it. I just figured out a way to take the shit I was interested in and cram it into a YouTube channel. I relate so much to that. I'm sure you have people, like, and the reason why you do so good in it is because you really are that person that was in the game like that. Yeah, dude, that's awesome.

I got a ton of respect for that. And as far as the rest of the things you do on the podcast, is it all music base or is it, do you talk about BMX stuff still? Still will, like, do some episodes here and there. Like, I have, like, my own podcast called the Adam 22 show that's kind of separate from No Jumper where I do. Like, now my mentality is that, like, no jumper is more of the culture. So it's like, you know, YouTubers, people in hip hop, whatever. But then sometimes on the Adam 22 show, I'll do, you know, episodes where we just sit around and talk about, like, the sort of inside gossip of what's going on in my store, my crew, or blah, blah, blah. and just the other day I interviewed

fucking Chad Muska who everybody I now realized just remembers him from the Tony Hawk Pro Skater game I was gonna say that shit holy shit because he's one of the most influential skaters of all the time

but like when he did that game everybody like came to know of him so I just did that interview and that was super fun I really have just like a genuine appreciation for like subcultures in general that I feel like the same reason I was interested in you

rest and peace rich piano I spent a lot of fucking time on YouTube just watching random bodybuilders people who are into exercise and anything because I'm just interested in like people who were out here like documenting their lives I spent a lot of time on rich's channel I'm not gonna lie yeah rich rich was uh yes and peace rich was definitely a big part big part of this industry so and he was one of the first fascinated by him man yeah he was a friend of my man he was one of the first people who uh really started changing the fitness youtube thing yeah he was like he think he

he worked with the company that had really like high production value and it really he was like the first person making like high production content because of the company he was working with and then he stopped working with him and did it on his own production wasn't as high but it was like more real and he's one of the first people who was just like this is who the fuck I am this what the fuck I do and he was just out there with it I like a guy like him who's willing to put himself out there and he knows he's going to get a lot of shit talk in the comments and he just doesn't care at all and it's just like here I am I'm eating fucking 80 dollars worth of food from cheesecake factory right here this is my video yeah he legit didn't care I love that dude man like I would talk to him in

person like on a personal level without anything and he just like he I mean I I mean, he got to a point in his life, he's like, fuck it. Yeah. But he was just unapologetically himself, and I think that was the coolest thing about it. If you become big enough, eventually you become, like, a meme of yourself. Yeah, he did. God damn it. He became a meme of himself.

I'm big enough. I can't control my image enough to make everybody like me. I wish I could, but, you know, at a certain point, you just got to accept that, you know. Yeah. You got to, yeah. And I think it came from place that he genuinely, like, love what he was doing. And the thing that he was, his idea of whatever it takes is just, I don't so much, like, I think people hear it, like, whatever.

it takes, and they're like, oh, go hard, take drugs, do all this stuff. I think he meant just, like, almost like, fuck it, be yourself, like, unapologetically is the way he kind of, like, lived his life and the way he, like, when he talked to people, because he was a, he was one of the people that I can say firsthand, like, I would see him at Expos, because I'd be one of those people, too, where he would spend all his time and then some. Like, they'll be closing down the Expo, and he's one of the last people I would see leave, and I'd be leaving with him.

But it would be like, but I saw that in him before I started doing that myself, and I was like I want to be like that if I'm going to be a part of this industry and people are going to care about what I'm doing. I want to be able to be like that because you saw the people like people would line up and then they you know be like oh we're leaving now then like most fitness people would be like oh I'm fucking out of here and dip you know because they're in their time frame for two hours and they're gone until the last person he got it you know he got the photos he talked to them he gave them their time and I remember seeing that before I even became one of those people it sounds so weird to say and I was like I want to be more like that

Because I also had a different experience on the other side with a person that I looked up to, even before Rich, even before I noticed Rich. This was really before social media. There was another guy that I looked up to who, like, when I met him, he was like, fuck off. And I'm not going to say his name because he, well, I don't want to go ahead. I'm not going to say his name just because he passed away and it's kind of fucked up. People who I put it together who it is, but this was a long time ago. He might have just had a bad day.

So if you guys are here like, I have no all love for this guy. but yeah i saw that in rich and i was like damn i want to be like that see that's always a battle for me because i love just standing in my store all day stand out front take pictures all day but then at the same time it's such a balance because it's like oh bro at a certain point i can't like you know stand in front of my store because it's just a line of people trying to talk about their sound cloud i'm sure you yeah it's in the thing is the thing it sucks here is like it's the lifting thing so you i'll have people come from all over the world and they'll be like hype to see me and i'm like

i got to shut them down for a second because i didn't do it it for a while but now I have to like shut them down like hey let me finish this give me 20 minutes give me 30 minutes and it sucks some people like oh I got to go and I'm like fuck but like I just told two other people give me 20 minutes I know you got to leave right now but if I now if I turn and I do this take this picture give you the time then that person over there's going to be like you fucking doucheback and it sucks because like the gym is like you got to work out it's almost like I need to build a gym in my house because people come to take photos and I'll be like I need to do this because for like a year and a half when I first opened it no a year and a year

Yeah, like a year When I first had this gym open For the first year, eight months I gave my time If someone came to talk to me I 100% just stopped what I was doing But it would destroy my workouts So like my progression for me personally

Or even just maintaining It was just like Because I gave so much Because I wanted to Because I wanted to be able to like Give back because I was giving so much Like all this shit is a fucking Was a dream of mine when I was young girl

My thing too though Is that like when I'm lifting weights I'm fucking irritable Like Because it hurts you know at the end of the day that shit hurts i've had i had a guy trying to ask me to like pay for an interview which i don't do but like he was like yo i want to pay for my artist to like do an interview while i'm fucking bench pressing i'm i thought my brain was gonna explode i was so pissed off

what gym were you at uh i don't know if i should say yeah that's okay i just work out in like a little tiny got it got a gym yeah so someone someone try to pay you for an interview do you get that after that a lot all day that's all my dms are is like it's listen to my sound cloud and it's uh you know i want to pay for an interview and i you know i'm not going to do either so it's damn so when did when did you start like because when you start getting that that's when you're like oh shit you're you know you're you're having an influence well you know what's weird is that like my dms have been ruined since like the early days of the internet because i always just had bmx kids sending me their videos when it was just the bmx website but then that just slowly transformed into

soundcloth links but i actually figured out the lick to like because you know when youtube kind of fucked everybody with the adpocalypse thing yeah notification shit yeah i got hit hard uh lost a lot of my ad rates online and but i i kind of figured out that what i wanted to do is the streaming thing and i would charge people a little bit of money to play their songs on the stream and that was how i was able to sort of like make up a lot of the ad revenue that i lost and i still do that i don't have to do that at all the money's cool but it's not like you mean the stream like why you're streaming live yeah we'll stream live do like a live podcast where people can donate for us to play their music and that way i actually have a way that i can actually check out people's music you know that's

cool yeah that's really cool damn i i got to i got to figure out this live streaming thing i Live stream. I've seen other people do it too. I do it on Twitch, but like not, I don't know. You know, it's just like Twitch, but you do it on here with these cameras and these mics and everything on Switch? No, no, I do it at home. Yeah, I'm a fucking loser.

You could do this just like that. You could live stream this. Like, you just have it all set up, hit the Switch. People get to watch this live. But I would need some sort of monitor here where I can like see what people are saying, right? Because the questions would be on that monitor. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what we do.

We have a second monitor. Although when I'm doing like a podcast, I hide it. Oh, I can pull them up here. Yeah, yeah, I hide it so that I can't see it because that distracts me like crazy. But then sometimes I'll like turn it on and start looking at the comments to get ideas for it to ask. Okay. And so you interview people when you're doing it. And then you just play the music in the background?

Yeah, like some nights I'll have like last week, two different days. I just go on live, sit there in that chair for like seven, eight hours in the store. And I just have like my guy like bringing people in like people that I've sort of arranged. I'm doing like three, four interviews in a row. And then like, you know, all night I'm having these guys like cut up clips, get them ready for YouTube. put it all out the next day it's a grind yeah for sure how how often do you would you say you're working I just because I I'm asked her when is he not working this that's why I wanted to ask this question because I want people I this is weird like you know the internet culture in general

it's like I I don't think people listening understand like how much fucking time like you can always be working all the time your job is on the internet so why like it's Saturday and Sunday and I'm just thinking about like how I'm going to organize my time and he is too yeah I remember more content I remember we were at the Fusikon, and she was like, I just want to fucking go work. I was so bad. Because we got kicked out, because it was the whole, it was the whole bomb thing. And there was no service, so I couldn't even work on my phone. But, yeah.

I have a great time. I think you didn't have the right attitude. Oh, you love chaos. It was fun. But I got it. I understand what you came from too. If there's a fight, I like run the other direction, but he's the opposite. He runs towards it.

He's like this. He's like, world star. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, oh, my God, chaos, no. That's like one difference we have, I think, for sure. So what do you, so relationship-wise, you get two years, right? What's the hardest thing like being on the internet and like being a couple? That's one thing I think we don't have a problem with.

And I think it's because we haven't exploited our relationship. That's why I ask, because it seems like you guys don't seem to have a problem with it. We've never like had a, like I've never made a vlog like Adam and our fight and then I just like talk about it or something. Like we'll do a thumbnail that sort of is like, we'll do silly click bait, but like we would never actually get in a real fight and then air it out for you too. That's a conversation we had a bunch of times. just basically like you know right now and like if we were to break up I just don't want us to ever like take the break up to social media say every bad because you know it's unfair if you're in a relationship with somebody it's not like an internet relationship you're in a

relationship with somebody for a couple years you get way too much ammo of like what you could say online yeah and it's fucked up when you have millions of followers and if people want to go attack and I don't want to be in the kind of relationship where I have to like think about that like what's she going to say about me one day about this one time that she saw me we could make so much money if we really wanted to fuck with our relationship reviews but I don't want to do that because it's like a legit relationship. We're like actual friends

like being on a relationship thing so it's no I see it even when we're working out I could tell it's super like I would say the only like problem which isn't really a problem is like like I'm afraid sometimes

to take a picture somewhere or you know never know how someone's gonna paint it like the picture where I have a perp and everyone's like I mean that's like the only thing but it's just like it would take a lot for me to think

that you were actually like doing anything about I'd be mad about I never even leave the house yeah but I don't stop I don't know. You're going to think I know you locked in. Yeah, I work from home. The home is my office.

She's locked up. She's got a board that ball in shape. Adam keeps her locked in the house. No, he took me out of the house last night. And as soon as we got there, I ubered back home because I was bored, I was the only girl. I went to Kim Star's Cloud House party to film something for the Fusey documentary. I was the only fucking girl there. But that's like her standard for anything we go to is if she's the only girl, she's like, fuck this, I'm leaving.

No. I don't always. I wanted to work. A lot of rap environments, she's the only girl. Like you go to the studio. It's like, oftentimes there's no girls there. And if there is, they're not really talkative, so. Yeah, they're off the Zanz or something.

I don't know. Yeah, that's awesome. You guys do seem to have a genuine, genuine relationship and genuine friendship, too. She's my little rider, duh. But I definitely, I totally understand the whole internet thing where it's like if people see you. We were talking about earlier in the other YouTube video, like, they see you with a guy automatically. They're like, this is going on. This is happening.

Yeah, I mean, it never really happens. And if it does, it's like, he planted it. Like, the time you made dance on road with Roy Purdy. He did it on purpose. Like, dance was going to be funny. I don't want to. It's scary. That's weird.

Yeah, that's just funny to me. So what do you, what do you have planned? Like, do you have anything big plan? Do you have anything you want to do more of? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to, like, build out. I've got to be kind of vague, but I'm building out, like, new types of content for the YouTube channel, like some sort of, like, daily series and shit.

Like, I kind of, for a while was, like, dealing with a lot of offers from people who are like, oh, we want you to move to New York and, like, do this show every single day and stuff. And I was sort of going back and. mainstream offers sort of yeah where I was like damn like maybe I'm a you know I'm gonna have to like figure out how to sort of make my YouTube channel run even though I'm gonna be

potentially somewhere else like working hard on content for somebody else but it seemed like a good enough opportunity that I should probably do it I just have realized like you know I just don't want to be corporate like I just don't want to fucking partner anyone I want to build my own shit and then if people want to come along and get involved and be like oh we want to you know

become partners with you on this content then they can do it but I'm gonna build everything before so I have the leverage before like you know I just had too many offers for TV like didn't too many fucking meetings all these media companies suck dick I did the meetings MTV I did the meetings advice it's just they're not motivated like the way I am so it's like building something within the combines of those structures is just not like that appealing to me like I'm gonna build my own things and then let them come and try to fucking no I mean I love I love that about you the fact that you just told me that like I can do all that

shit you know like you build all this this is like you know you the normal way of doing things would have been that you would have had to go to serious radio and like pitch yourself like I want to do this kind of show and they probably be like nah like working out isn't mainstream enough like fuck you we're not going to do a show with you you know but you build your own thing where you can actually appeal to your diehard audience or the people who are into this culture yeah and you keep it authentic yeah yeah I mean that's what like the fucking internet is nowadays it's kind of taking the power away from the big companies and give it to the people literally like you guys listening too like understand like when I say the people I'm not talking about just

me and Adam and Lena, I'm talking about you as well. Like, if you want to do something like this, it's just a matter of like, how long did you spend working on this shit, your whole fucking life pretty much? I was Ryan BMX since I was 13 and I didn't start making money off it since until I was like 23. So even that seems like really early to me. Like, I was only doing that for 10 years before I figured out how to make six figures a year off it.

That's pretty crazy that it only 10 years, you know? Especially then, though. That's really fucking impressive. No, but I'm impressed with you, man, for damn sure. Like, and I want everyone listening to understand. Like, I'm fucking like, I feel like I've done a lot of cool. shit but I'm like I'm looking sitting across the table from you and I'm this is no

way in any disrespect to you at all but I'm really impressed like I'm really impressed and the way you're able to pivot from like doing this and then seeing what works and then being able to like kind of do both and bridge the gap so it's not like people don't well what the fuck you gave up on BMX like because obviously you still in the shop

you're still in there. Do you ever get people saying that? I mean I don't I do see it once in a while where they're like you fucking gave up at BMX or whatever but like there are a few things that are consistent in BMX which is they everybody rides bmx likes music so i feel like they're not that mad because like they all listen to rap so it's like they all probably like the vast majority of people that watch my bmx shit probably watch my shit on a jumper honestly and uh sometimes i feel bad because i wish that i could

have found people that were like younger versions of myself to continue to like run the bmx youtube channel and everything but man it's just hard to find people that are like really and the problem is is youtube is that it's so easy to go and start your own youtube channel i have this kid john hicks who was making YouTube videos for my BMX channel and we were paying him whatever like 200 bucks, 250 bucks per video and then one of those videos got two million views

and he knew that we made a bunch of money off it and he was like fuck this I'm doing my own we're still good friends but he went and decided to start his own channel he got almost a million subs I mean that's just like it's too easy for people to do the YouTube thing on their own so if you give them an opportunity

and they're really good you better have on a fucking tight ass contract because they're going to go and do their own thing you know yeah and it yeah fuck i can talk about that for a long time just certain certain things i've been through i mean even currently going through like it's a it's a it's sensitive i guess would say right now because it's kind of recent on the whole podcast deal but um i don't want to talk anyways um i believe that i got to do a little bit more deeper research for yeah no it's it's but it's for sure i mean it's like the the i don't know how you want to say it but the availability

of like if if you put if you help put someone there like it can it can be very very large right It's just as long as you, once you learn the principles, you know how to do it. Yeah, and I guess it'd be hard because anyone can turn one day and be like, oh, I could sign up to YouTube and then do the same thing. And that's why, like, anything that I build, I really wanted to be about the, that, like, when I look at drama alert, which is, I watch drama alert every day. I love Keemstar. Yeah. Drama Alert is a fixture in the culture. And yeah, it has a lot to do a Keem Star, but he'll have new to host it and I'll still do just as many views.

I'll have somebody else hosted, it'll do pretty good views. you know it's like he's created something where it's bigger than him and that's like a big part of what I'm trying to do is like create things that you know because my podcast kind of lives or dies based on me to a certain extent because I'm the one asking the questions but I just want to you know keep building things that are bigger than myself that could potentially like live on without me keeping an eye on it all the time yeah and that's my goal too it's but it's like how do you bridge that gap when the people you're trying to bring on like you said can be like oh I got this now I'll just go do this over here then you know like

How do you think Kim Star did it where he was able to build it, maybe just was able to build it big enough that it was known for that? Because the drama alert is about the impulse of wanting to know what the news are, wanting to watch this nice little 10 minute segment about what's going on in the world today. And that's why I click on Drama Alert, even if the title is like somebody I've never heard about. You know, it's like because it's not really about the host. Like I'm sure it's helped Nuda a lot to do that. But if Nuda were to start his own news channel right now, like yeah, it would be cool.

Like you'd probably be able to get some good views and everything. thing but at the end of day like it would be drama drama alert is about drama alert you know it's like it's a little bit more than just the personality and that's like a big goal yeah how do you think you develop that then if it's not just getting followers how do you think you develop that I mean consistency is like the huge part is just that drama alert has been going every day for four years like if Nuda were to start his own news channel now and do a video every day for four years then I bet he would have a big fucking following too but I mean

consistency is the hard part and the hard work is the hard part but I think at the end of the day you just want to like a really really powerful like online consistent program is going to be something that taps into like a very specific impulse that people have you know like wanting to know know the news it's just like a that's an easy thing it's just like a very simple thing like I guarantee if you started a bodybuilding drama alert you know you probably wouldn't be able to do it every every day there's a dude who's there's a guy named nick's strength I know yeah there's a you've seen it yeah he's just like academics but he just makes videos talking about bodybuilding I've seen it, yeah.

I'm gonna get him on here. He clickbates me like at least five times a week, bro. Like, he gets me all this. I'm watching videos about body bills from the 70s. I don't know why I care, but he just gets me. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna get him on here for sure. That's super tight.

I would love you like that guy. Yeah, and I see what you're saying. It's got to make it something that obviously just see you guys listening too. You've got to make it something that people want. It can't just be what everyone else is already doing. It has to have some uniqueness to it. And I'm assuming kind of what you're saying, it's about the packaging of it and how consistent they've been with it.

So you're like, you know what you're getting and you want that. You want people to have this like shimmery, glittery experience where they know that 10 minutes of them sitting there watching that show, that it's going to be something new, but they also know exactly what they're getting. Yeah. And that's just like a good feeling when you see that. I feel the same way when I see academics videos pop up or I'm sure there's people out there that feel that way about my content. That's good to know that you just sort of have that hook in. Yeah. You just got to keep feeding them stuff they actually want so they keep interacting.

Oh, yeah. So do you have, do you have any plans to do like a? I was actually just, like, lost in space thinking about ideas that I have that I want to do. Kind of podcast related, we were talking about it. Like, there's no female long-form podcast going on on YouTube that are, like, visual, really. I think there are, but they're just not that big. Yeah. Yeah.

There's some comedy ones, but it's like, what is the one with him and his wife? Fuck. H-3-H-3? No, not H-3-H-H-3. I call him He-He-He, but... No, there's a comedy one. I mean, that's a comedy one, too, but this is a... Casey Nicest out of his wife now.

I feel like there's a lot of, like, couples-based podcasts, but I feel like... Like, because the idea that we had the other day, I guess we'll just throw it out there. I just like live in, I don't want to talk about it completely, but I just like live in this space where I have a very like sexual job. And so girls and guys both come to me with questions about relationships. I've become like this relationship guru without even meaning to. Obviously, we have a really strong relationship that's a relationship that's out there. And then I'm friends with all these other sex workers and we have knowledge and insight that girls want to know about. So my idea would be something that like if I was a 16 year old girl curious about sex for the first time, like I could listen to this.

and it'd be like safe like a big sister sort of thing if you're 16 and you're curious about sex stay the fuck away from my channel yeah uh honestly if i had a son i would not let him watch your channel oh the dudes are okay i was talking about the girls no you would let you sign watch this channel no because he wouldn't be able to read adam's sarcasm so when adam's like saying something that's a complete joke you know how to he's a little dry i'm a little dry sometimes too because i get people who come on my channel are like what the fuck they don't say terrible things is a joke and if any were to if people take them literally go yeah exactly especially if the kid is like on the spectrum and like everything is literal so you could fuck up some children babe i'm sorry

to area i'm sure i have yeah all right i make another question this is about the tattoos how when did you start getting them i was like 18 and i just i was into going to hardcore shows for a couple years there and i just start again what's your favorite man my favorite is probably i really have a thing for this like one rose in the middle of my throat that this This dude bird crack from Queens did. And I don't know. It's just always going to stood out to me as sort of a... His favorite is my name that he hasn't gotten yet.

Yeah. Oh, you haven't? No, I have not. No, no. I have a big-ass Grim Reaper read it with my dick, too. And I feel like that's a good metaphor. He's lying. Like, what's going to happen?

You suck this, you die. Oh, shit. I like, I like Lisa right here. That's dope. I don't know. I've got a lot more face tattoos I want to get. I got to hold back. No more face tattoos.

No more? I got to just... The one rule in our relationship is the first. I can't get any. Nah, I didn't say that. But I want to make a rule that you can get any more face tattoos. It's not a rule that you can't get any. I just said I really strongly believe that you do not need any.

You have none. I have little ones. I have a pretzel. I have none. It's a heart. I love tattoos. The reason why I never got any because my personality is fucking addictive and I feel like I would just, I would be all the way. Yeah, you would look like rich if you had all the tattoos.

I'd be like all the way. I feel like from a bodybuilder perspective, I would not want tattoos. I'm sure it goes back and forth like crazy where you also think it looks kind of tight Oh it does it looks cool Yeah And again I think I know what Rich did too He he didn't even talked about this

How he would get a tattoo that would like Make him look better Like for like I have like uh like accent accent a line You know it'd be like darker and like That makes a lot of sense But I also always wonder like how the judges react to tattoos Yeah I think it was past the competing thing I think personally he just like he thought that

That darker line or something here would make his shoulder look better And it's so much on stage I think it for bodybuilder, I think it actually hinders sometimes because you can't see the lines as much because it's blurred. I got a lot of bodybuilders and I'm big fans of from back in the day. Like who?

Shit. I've seen you with Kai Green. Yeah, my hobby for sure. I thought with him from back in the day, Brooklyn. Brooklyn stand up. We were just talking about Dorian Yates. That's a very big inspiration to me out there. Fuck yeah.

I'm a big Ronnie Coleman fan. I used to watch all his documentaries. I used to watch him do the 3,000 pound leg press on YouTube pretty friendly. Yeah, we're going to have Ronnie on the show when I go out to Olympia. beyond that's bad yeah Ronnie's dope I mean I mean I know I guess I know all these guys I don't know my best friends but yeah I definitely know I'm all from from your perspective that's like tight shit about doing this is good that's cool fuck because I do 100% when I was

coming up it was I watched all the blood and guts I watched joy and Yates I watch Ronnie Coleman like fucking that was what I was like damn I want to I want to be like that I want to be strong I was like literally when I was a kid I remember me like oh I want to be really strong and look like a bodybuilder when I was younger and Ronnie was one of the first people pretty much one of the only people stupid strong yeah stupid strong stupid fucking huge during an era where like dudes were kind of starting i feel like forget about being strong and be more about just like being huge but then he was like nah i'm huge but i'm also going to do this 3 000 pound leg press like dudes kind of were chilling on showing off their strength around that time i feel like you know

yeah and i and i know i've talked to like people who've worked with him closely like manager and do like his companies with him and he he's the kind of person that like i know right now it's super hard because he's like almost he's like pretty much debilitated because he had some bad surgeries go wrong so it's like hard for him to even walk and it kills him even beyond just like obviously he's an older he's an older man now but like he's he's literally that guy that like he loves doing it so much that like that's the worst part yeah and so and and on people listening um i think he had like a like legit i think he's gonna sue like a doctor or something he had like an actual bad surgery it wasn't like from his his exercises obviously the surgery came about because but

I think then he had a bad surgery and it fucked him up more wow so that's your shit he's He's really so scary to me, honestly. That is terrible. And I think he made a post once where people asked him, like, if he could have done more, like, because he's debilitated now. Like, I think he made some, like, epic fucking response to, like, he would have just, like, he would have done two or three more reps if he, like, it wasn't like, fuck being injured. He's like, I would have done.

I should have done two more reps with squat. So he was that kind of guy who just loved their shit. And then I also heard from, like, because Jay Cutler is a good friend of mine. He obviously competed with him. He's amazing, really good dude. I got to get him on the podcast. The time period that I was really paying attention to body. building was like when he was the king so yeah so that was right when he there's one where he took it from

ronnie yeah that was he would say ronnie he saw we're seeing ronnie in person is like one of the jay said this himself i sat on next to a plane for like we went to germany we were on first class together we just talked about body moon and stuff and uh seeing ronnie in person like at that like on the stage he's like no one was even no one looked like this dude this dude was like he was amazed like holy shit and ronnie they said ron he said ronie was the kind of person that like he's just like he they floated wherever first thing you did gym really eat a bunch of food like every and other people who kind of fuck around a little bit more they say he was just crazy about the gym that's crazy about the amount of food he could eat i love people like that who are just like ridiculously

obsessed with what they're into you know that just i love that shit and like uh you know i want to name one more person i really fucked it was uh lee priest oh yeah he's a badass i liked him a lot too just because he was all personality you know he's just crazy yeah lee priest crazy he was so funny that too. I think he does I feel like he does a face tattoo shit yeah yeah I think he and I think he does I don't know if he does podcast stuff

now but does he he probably great at it yeah something on you I know he does YouTube stuff but I like Dave Palumbo too I want to throw him in there Dave Blumbo Dave was fucking crazy

I just used to read a lot of his like what was it a MD RX muscular development I used to read his column and it was always interested yeah damn it's so cool that you like you were into that shit

I'm like he didn't a lot of people no he knows he like Arnold Schwarzenegger is my favorite. Yeah. Oh, Jesus, fuck. He's lit. No, when I first met her,

I made her watch fucking pumping iron. Hey, I was reading. Oh, my God. You're the fucking man, bro. Iron will make anybody want to work out, though. Yeah. I was reading his, I have his biography at the house.

I love Arnold. That's awesome. I just am into, like, online stuff. That's what bodybuilding always was to me is like, I'm just learning about a weird-ass subculture online. Like, I was into lifting. You really like that.

You like the subculture. I was just, I was into lifting weights, but then I was like, got more into, like reading about all these fucking crazy people yeah yeah is my favorite thing about him people are like why do you like him i like him because he becomes obsessed with things and then we were watching a food eating competition the other day was that one guy oh we found some dude

we'll just like down a wormhole together the guy with the hot dog like the most hot dogs no not that's this one big ass white dude that just eats a shit lot of food bro it was crazy is he on you he a YouTuber yeah but i forget his name is he a fitness guy he's a eating an eater dude like he just he's he fitness as well is he's he's a Is it Furious Pete? It might be him. I got a, I forget that. Furious Pete.

I just get trapped in the wormhole on people who eat Jackie Anzing amounts of food. That shit's fun to me. It's dope, though. That's what you like most about him? Yeah, like, because I think that's really, like, most people aren't interested in, like, reading stuff or learning about stuff.

They're just like, whatever. Oh, I don't care. But he'll take it to an extreme level. No, that's cool as fuck. I mean, that's why you're here, too. Do it. He's been playing Pokemon Go since they came out and he still plays. Still?

still. Whoa, you're savage. He, like, researches, like, what's going on in the game. Oh, my God. He knows everything. He's just, I love, don't get, I love video games. I just stopped playing that because it kind of. I stopped, too, but Pokemon Go somehow stayed in my life.

Yeah, and I think it's so cool. Like, he's like, oh, you know, you're making fun and they're like, no, I love it. I wonder if the gym's got a gym. Do you think he's a gym here? That'd be sick. That would be super little. My whole thing with the game is that there's this, this dude Nick who has a YouTube channel called Trainer Tips, and he's like a Pokemon Go YouTuber

from, like, he lives in Long Beach, like, like, pretty close to us and everything and like I started watching his videos to learn about the game when it first came out because I was you know low-key like interested in it no but you're right across the street from a gym um and so basically uh that's ironic it's a gym across the street from the gym but basically I started watching his videos and just thought he was a really cool dude met him interviewed him and then like his interest and passion for Pokemon Go just made me like remain interested in it and I've noticed that if he stops making a video like he's gone through shit where he's not feeling like making a video for a week, I will stop playing as

he stops making videos about it. And then he'll start making videos and I'm like, oh, I got to check this shit out. Because they're always doing little updates and shit. Yeah. Do you think there's people, I'm sure there are actually, that maybe like you treat your videos that way or treat what you're doing like in a way. I don't think to stop listening to music necessarily, but like. But it's weird because sometimes I'll meet, you know, I'll meet some random girl outside the store. I think that she's just some random girl that wants a photo and then she'll just start saying stuff and I'll be like holy fuck she really knows all about us like she really pays attention to the details yeah some girl was like Adam's back is gonna get

better because of you you're gonna help him make it back I was like how do you know his back her to start working out again and then this girl's like I know that he's feeling so much better his back's feeling better since he's been building up his muscles and the rest of his body had it been it's totally true but I'm like holy fuck she's I didn't tell her that well I did I said in the video oh remembered it you was like Adam you came into Adam's life so you could help him with his back. We hadn't even had that conversation

of like, oh, thank you so much for getting me to start working out again. But this girl had put it all together and was like, thank you. I think she was kind of drunk

too, so that's why I still. No, that's lit though. I mean, people, that's so cool. People really, like, they care about you. I think that's the coolest thing about all this shit is like you have such an ability. And hopefully I feel like

I do as well as what I've done, but to like just help people. And it doesn't necessarily have to be like, oh, you got help them for me, it's getting strong. Like for you, it's not even just about the thing you're doing.

it's like you're leading people along or they have something to entertain themselves they have something to like relate to to like look forward to the stuff that you're crazy model your own behavior on too because that's like with me I remember oh dude there's a bodybuilder kid named Matt Ogius

who makes YouTube videos I know Matt That's why I know all these fucking people But he's not like a pro or anything He's just like a regular like natural bodybuilder type I think he's natural but like he was saying like He would make all these videos Talking about just like eating

And I would just start watching the videos because like he's talking about like eating healthy and I like want to eat healthier and I start watching these videos and it starts to like get me in the mood like I'm not gonna have a burger for dinner tonight have you seen my videos before you met me then on YouTube? That's dope.

It's funny that he's naming everyone because I'm like if you started naming off every like SoundCloud rapper with 50,000 followers this would be really weird right now. I could do that too, yeah. You know all them too. No, it's interesting and I mean the thing of music in general too though

is like it does go hand in hand with lifting. I don't honestly I don't know if I don't want to offend anybody but I think if you don't listen to music when you work out, you're weird. Oh, yeah. It's weird. At my gym, I've become...

It's weird. I'm like the de facto, like, DJ whenever I go in the gym now because, like, there would always be listened to either, like, some random, boring EDM or, like, Migos, like, you know, or, like, one other, like, rapper or whatever. And I'll come in there and, like, put on some different shit every day. And, like, they started to get really into it. But then there's been some complaints because the music I listen to

is, like, so offensive sometimes. Like, we're just... I forget what it was, some gangster as shit. I feel like people like the music. music so much in here because I'll film videos they'll be like yo make a make a Spotify playlist do it because like because I like all kinds of music I put on all kinds of music there's this guy Greg Walsh that I'm friends with who owns a gym up in like Rochester New York and when you go in that gym they're playing

the craziest like hardcore metal and I always just thought like from an aesthetic perspective that to me is just badass although I can't imagine anything that would turn off like some random 30 year old lady it's not for me turn around yeah Because, like, the old ladies in my gym will complain. Because, like, and it wasn't even something I put on. They were playing, like, Snoop Dog. And he's like, you know, it ain't no fun if the homies can't have none.

The lyrics in that song, I haven't thought about it since I've been listening to that song. So it was like 10. That's an intense song. Yeah. A lot of misogyny doesn't really surprise me that some old lady was offended. There's a lot of music like that, though. And it's just playing it. It's like, people are just hearing it, hearing it.

You don't even think about how crazy the shit that Migos are actually saying. Like, even them, like, they're not that offensive. But they're saying some crazy. Like, if I would have said, those things not in the context of a rap song, it would be very controversial. Yeah. It's just wild, man. So,

any last words? I'm starting to do this on all my podcast now. Last words. How many calories do you eat a day? Oh, yeah, you guys can ask me some questions. I'm going to interview the fuck out of him in the near future, but if you want to get some questions off for free.

I want to know, A, I want to know how many pounds of muscle you can build a month. Ooh. And, or when you were building muscle. When you were building muscle, not now. Okay. And how many calories are you? Okay, so first, first answer, as far as like building pounds of muscle a month, it's so

different. Like I could say, oh, I built this much, but I never really tracked it, to be honest. And I think it's something that's completely unique to literally every person. Like someone's ability to build muscle. It takes me forever to build a pound of muscle. So, yeah, so it's like, and when women, women have less testosterone than men, so they can't build. They're not as, it's not as active to build that. And my body just wants to stay like, like, flubbery forever. Like, I just have the kind, yeah, exactly. That's not a bad thing. But, like, but, like, Like, it's just, I can't imagine having, like, 10% body fat. But anyways.

And so, so to answer your question, it's, it's all relative to everyone's different. It's just, and then it's like, how much work you put in? Are you getting enough food, you know? So then the calorie question for me, it's the second question is, I'm actually, like, really bad at eating enough food. That's, like, my biggest, like, weakness. You can't eat enough, you think? Yeah, I have a bad appetite.

So normally, like, like, naturally, I'm a skinny kid. Oh, so. Are you starving right now after a workout or no? No. Like, I, I go, I think, like, I'm pretty hungry. I'm fucking hungry. I mean, I'm hungry. I'm asking him.

I'm kind of hungry now, but like, but I could go four more hours without eating. And then I'd be like, oh, I could eat. Oh, God, I'd be so angry. Like, I just, yeah, my whole life, it's been kind of like, oh, I need to eat. Not like I'm super hungry. Sometimes I'm very hungry.

Like, if I go do a bunch of cardio or a swim or something, which is, I mean, I've been swimming often, but cardio rare, like, outside of swimming. But I'll have to do something really intense, like, activity, like, a change up of your normal routine. Yeah, for me to be hungry. Normally I just, like, I can just, I eat because I need to eat. So the amount of calories, like, I probably should be eating more like four to five thousand a day to grow.

But like some days I'll get three, some days I'll get two, some days I'll get four. So I'm like, but then to gain the weight like you're talking about like within a month or something, it's about how consistent, how often are you? Because like you don't have to always, I mean, if you always hit your mark perfectly, I'm sure you're going to be more consistent over time. But like you do this thing. Because it's weird because people will be like, oh, I just need this many calories a day and then I'll lose this weight. But it's like it really does have to be as consistent as possible.

Because it doesn't happen day to day. But I was just curious because you're, you're just so much bigger than me. So I'm just like, you know. She thought you were going to say like $20,000. Yeah, I was like, well, I was waiting for some big numbers, some Michael Phelps type number on my face. No, because it's like you can only,

your body can only like assimilate so much at one time anyway. So it's like you could do like some Michael Phelps shit, but it's like you might just get fat. Yeah. Or even if you weren't just getting fat, like you burn it off heat, you burn it off somewhere your body's because you can only like each person. I mean, obviously you could take steroids and your body can assimilate it because it's better at protein synthesis.

But it can only. build muscle so quickly depending on like your genetic structure so it's really extra food is necessary yeah but it's like it's more like be consistent with a little bit more I just like imagine you have this metabolism where you have to like sip on a protein shake all right no fuck no this is actually making me hell like more motivated to work out harder because like I've actually been pretty motivated for like the last six months but it's definitely like just hanging out with you just like sort of get me more in that mind state of like oh yeah I got to go hard yeah I'm really trying to like pack on some more size yeah yeah so we got it we

noodle arms you don't have noodle arms you're fine hey you should have six months ago yeah she she didn't have we might not look that great but like you know a year or two ago when she started like i started like maybe six months ago or a little longer than that but like i had not worked out for like three years and i was like disgusting like just flat my arms like hanging i just look gross and i just have 20 pounds more fat on me when we met that's crazy yeah so she's changed you've changed that yeah she was a much thicker lena when i met her yeah I call her lean I'm sorry I apologize my thing though too is that like

I would rather just straight up have like low body fat percentage than any than just be big but I like working out a lot and dieting is fucking shit so yeah you know I'm just kind of focused on that but you're tall you need to eat you're gonna have to eat a good amount consistently me not eating a good amount doesn't seem like an option I'm just like glutton yeah it's the height thing man I'm trying to control it but so when are we doing your podcast

just any day this week whatever you have time at night or whatever we can do it Okay. All right. We'll do it by them too. Yeah, that'll be dope. That'd be cool. I'll grab some footage and I'll, yeah. But anyways, I appreciate you guys listening.

Make sure you guys check them out. No Jumper podcast. Adam 22 podcast. Yeah, Adam 22 show. I have Adam 22 channel and a No Jumper channel. And then there's the Lent of the Plug channel. Yeah, my channel is Lent of the Plug. And that's also your Instagram.

My Instagram, my Twitter. All the same. And then Adam 22. Check them out. I appreciate you coming, man. And after talking you more, like I got a ton of respect for what you've done, what you're accomplishing, and, like, where it seems like you're going to go.

Appreciate it. And hopefully we can do some more stuff in the future. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you. And thank you for letting me, like, pretend to steal you for that other. That was great, yeah. Let's all, I'll pray for a lot of views, you guys. People are watching this to find out if we have a lot.

Please, I feel like, I've never really done, like, a true plan. Pray for views. Pray for views. That makes sense to me. We should pray for views every morning. Oh, shit, please. Wake up in the morning. Pray for good click bait.

Please help us. Praying for the news. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this was fun, though, for real. I'm looking forward to doing ours, too, yeah. Of course. All right, guys, thank you so much. And if you're not already on the YouTube, make sure you check out the YouTube on CultureCast.

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