RAWTALK - ADAM22 & LENA MADE ME DO IT...

Episode Date: March 8, 2022

Come plug in to the podcast with the rap culture enthusiast Adam22 and his wife Lena the Plug! Get charged up with the open conversation about the industry they work in, social media, being shadow banned, parenthood, Kanye's Netflix series and the perks of having children.SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://vm.TikTok.com/TTPdQbEqVX/FOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

Okay. I like to think it's been recording this whole time, right? Yeah, it's solid. Someone's getting in trouble. So you've dabbled with mushrooms. You have as well? Yes. You explained it like really like artfully.

Well, that's why I like, that's like the reason that I like microdosing is like turning off your normal default brain setting where you're like constantly thinking about the shit. You shouldn't be thinking about the shit that makes you kind of unhappy and then just staying present. It's like the gateway to meditation without having to go through all the meditation training. Practicing. You know, practicing.

So it's kind of like a shortcut into that. When did you first experience it? What turned you on to? Because that's the thing that I'm really interested. Like most people we still, it still looked at very like, oh, that's scary. That's bad. That's don't do that. The first time I did acid, I did it like accidentally because I was always one of those people

that thought like, oh, if I do acid, I'm going to go crazy, schizophrenic. I'm going to be that person because that's what they tell you is like there's a off chance that you're going to just, it's going to turn you into this like psychotic person or whatever. So I was drunk and someone gave it to me and I took it and I had the best night of my life and I wasn't scared of it anymore, but I've only ever done it like two or three times. You know, it's crazy because like that's the same thing they said about marijuana in the beginning. Like it's going to make you kill people and go crazy and it's this crazy gateway drug. And then and now it's completely legal and okay and like legitimized. Yeah.

Just an interesting like our world's very crazy with the way we like say things aren't okay and then when they're okay for. I mean, it's not okay for everyone too, right? There are those people who, you know, like I personally can't do weed. I was at his office the other day and they were all smoking around me and I swear I got contact high and I hated it. I don't like smoking at all. I do not like smoking at all. It makes me do the thing that he was saying about himself where he starts like equal analyzing his life. And for me, that happens in like a negative way.

And so I do not like it. Interesting. But I can, but I like mushrooms. You know, it's crazy go. Cause like there's, if there's some negative way like if you're looking at it and there's something negative already there that like you're kind of avoiding now. I don't know. I think it just makes me second guess. everything about myself and doubt things that I should know to be normal and true and

okay. It kind of just like makes me wonder, mind the right place at the right time. This marijuana does this to you. Yeah, weed does that to me, but not mushrooms. Yeah. Yeah. It's what about you? You, you dabble in some mushrooms, some, uh, it's been years. Bring that closer to you. It's been years. I haven't done mushrooms or acid or anything in a long as time. I'm not necessarily against it. Well, actually, no, maybe a year and a half ago, me and Sada Baby did an interview and we took mushrooms for the interview. And it was pretty fun. It definitely got weird.

Started talking about some weird shit. Like a lot of mushrooms? A significant amount. Like I was definitely feeling it, but not that much. But I mean, I always, when I, okay, when I do mushrooms, it does the same thing in my brain, at least a little bit to me that used to happen when I would do like Coke or, you know, other drugs. Mushrooms do the thing that Coke does you? Only in the sense that once I do a little bit of it, it's like I want more stimulus, like over and over. Like I need to like be feeling new things.

Like once I do mushrooms, it's like I can't just check. chill. Whereas when I smoke weed, I can just chill. I disagree. We were trying to decorate the Christmas tree two years ago and you decided that you were going to eat those peanut butter cups with the mushrooms inside and you just laid on the couch and we're like, I'm not to piss anymore. I'm not decorating the tree. Don't you remember that? Yeah, because you're trying to get me to decorate a tree. Yeah, no one likes to decorate trees. I'm not my idea of like a cool thing to do while I'm fucked up. No. Yeah. Just in general, like no one really likes to decorate trees. I think I think it's really fun. A big decorator of trees. No. So, so you guys have

have built like a pretty successful um podcast kind of obviously only fan stuff um since i met you i remember when i first met you it was at like the whole foosey tube kind of like meltdown show good times um good times um when when when when you went from there to like where you are now at like how much did the business grow how much did the no jumper podcast thing grow um and like from where you are now like no jumper is probably making like 30 times as much money now as it was at that time and that's not even including the porn stuff or anything like that so yeah it's been a good couple of years for us like it feels like every couple months there's like a new thing that comes along all of a sudden our Facebook's going crazy you know like about a year ago we figured out

the Patreon thing and started making a bunch of money doing that and it just kind of we just keep figuring out different pieces of the puzzle how do you find the balance of like the actual content on the web which obviously anyone can get you to Spotify iTunes and then Patreon Because I've always been curious, like, how would I make a Patreon if, like, I'm just already making the content? I don't want to be, like, now pay for it here. You have to, like, figure out how you're going to make more content. Like, I know a lot of podcasts that they do, like, one episode per week for free. And then they do one additional episode that's behind the paywall.

That was what I thought I was going to have to do for a long time with the Patreon. Like, oh, I'm going to have to figure out another cast of hosts and I'm going to have to do another additional podcast per week. And then we could charge for it. We decided we already had been having a lot of luck doing porn star interviews. shit like that and then like but at the same time there's like some percentage of the audience that just wants to see rapper interviews and they almost feel like it's like

an affront to the brand when we're like taking porn stars and putting them on the same level as the rappers and stuff you're talking about the no jumper podcast yeah which I think is kind of stupid but at the same time it's like that just opened my mind like oh we can just keep interviewing OnlyFans girls and Patreon girl or

porn stars and we can just put them on the Patreon they can get naked on the podcast which we didn't necessarily know 100% was gonna happen but like yeah the first girl that we had on the Patreon was this girl Kazumi and she got butt naked and she was making her pussy talk doing a little voice with what yeah she was like using her pussy as a puppet like holding her lips open and just like making it talk yeah making it talk and stuff and then it did so good our patreon kind of blew up right away and she set the standard

oh like this is like some like Thailand show have you ever been to Thailand seen like a weird show I have I saw a girl smoke a cigarette through a pussy when I was like shoot a fucking ping pong ball I just I seen I seen a crazy some crazy shit inside way yeah so anyways um it do you do you ever find it challenging for like you guys to make enough content no jumper the whole thing see plug talk is like our separate podcast you know because that's the the porn podcast no jumpers in its own world do I find it challenging to make enough content not really because at this point we have like a whole big staff of like five or six different dudes who are doing content on our platform. So I'm only on like a relatively small percentage of it. But then I still push myself to do like five podcasts a week and just release my interviews with different people in addition to all the other content that I have all the other guys creating. So other people host other people host no jumper because I haven't like completely. ADT rel do no little house phone sharp.

We got this guy Kiki who does like a sports show on the weekend. So we have a bunch of different stuff going on. So you never worry that someone's going to like, you know, let's say one of those guys does better on the podcast like then. the other whatever guys. You never worry that he's going to be like, I'm just going to go over here and dip and do my own podcast. I call it jump or no.

But I mean, you just kind of have to like figure out like how you're going to make it seem like a valuable thing, you know, because if you're going to dip off and do your own channel, you're probably going to be talking to a much smaller audience for a period of time or whatever. So I'm always thinking about that, but then also trying to like build up the business

so that there's reasons why people wouldn't want to leave. But then also people do shit on their own thing. Like this dude AD, he was like the first guy that we'd, gave his own podcast on the channel, right? He's like a rapper, and, you know, he's from Compton. He loves when I say that. And, uh, oh, is he not actually from Compton?

No, he is from Compton. He just loves that I pointed out every five seconds. But, but, like, with him, he started doing Twitch, too. So, like, now he's doing his Twitch streams and he's bigger on Twitch as a result of doing his podcast on No Jumper, which that's my ideal situation is like, you could do whatever the fuck you want outside of No Jumper. Just give me two hours a week. Yeah.

Give me three. How many, how many episodes are you dropping on? there then well we have like four weekly podcast plus probably 10 interviews a week dropping and I'm usually doing like four or five of them maybe holy shit maybe that's a ton of content yeah it's a ton of content but I like it because we interview so many underground people that this is like you know you have to spread your chances out yeah for sure and then plug talk is just like you guys it's like mostly porn related stuff it is it's actually porn you know we do like a 30 minute interview with a porn star and then we

have sex at the end. That's lit because I had me on here and like when I started saying that I was going to have her on here I got so many messages being like you're not Adam 22 like I was like what are you talking about? That's sick though that's dope. We kind of just like merged our two. I was just like yo I just want to do an interview

like I'm not trying to be able. There's this company like you know Vitaly of course Vitale does his site and it's like a lot of boobs and stuff yeah yeah it's like boob pranks basically yeah we had a company hitting us up wanting us to do something similar and then we just started talking about it going back and forth and we kind like they didn't want us to do sex yeah they thought like oh yeah you should just like do podcasts where the girls dump their boobs out or whatever and as we just kind of what you do on the patreon but wait we do so you're talking and then you have you can't have sex on a podcast we do we take our mics off okay we move to a boom mic and we fuck on the couch well okay so is that that section is only on Patreon maybe so the regular it's on only fans right okay You cannot fuck on Patreon.

Patreon has stricter rules. So you watch that full interview and we put a big chunk of the interview on YouTube and we cut it up for TikTok and Instagram and everything. But then we do the interview and then you have to head to OnlyFans if you want to see the sex part. Wow. Yeah. That's fucking genius.

We really have to explain it to people. It's crazy. I'm like, well, we're fucking on the podcast. I mean, it's like you guys, this is the crazy thing, right? Like there was porn. There's porn as we all know it back in a day like magazines and then porn and. You know, with the big studios, it took the most of everyone's money. And then there's like porn now.

And I would say like, really, you guys are probably the pioneers of like new age porn. Well, to me, like the things you're doing this is, I don't see anyone else doing this kind of like conversation. Yeah, I don't really know anyone else. Maybe they're doing it. I don't know anyone else doing it. I assume they're coming. They're probably working on it. Although to be fair, it's just like not something that a lot of people are really like equipped to do.

Like most people who do podcasts would just not do porn. And most people who do porn probably wouldn't really. be able to do like a successful podcast so interesting yeah so we are in kind of like a unique space and the girls want to do the podcast and the porn with us with other people I feel like it might be more of like you really have to pull the girl in because you know you already do the podcast thing girls are already familiar with you I already I've already collaborated with these girls many many times and then you know the good thing is like you know if you shoot for a studio they keep the content we like actually we give the girls the content too and they also get to

sell it on their own personal pages. So it's like a win-win for everybody, which makes me happy because that's the deal that I would want cut for me. It's fucking genius. Yeah, because my thing with porn always was like, I'm just skipping past these fucking stupid skits every time, you know? No one watches the dumb skits. I don't care. I'm never going to watch. I think Sylby, Sylvie would just watch it just for that. Jirk it off just for that. People tell me that. People are like, you don't watch the skits. They make a full movie. Like he comes before the actual scene. I'm like, how do you have time for that? Like, when I'm flipping through porn hub, like I'm never watching more than like five or ten seconds in a row I'm yeah yeah that's so true though yeah I

stop watching porn completely really for like seven the last seven months I swear you had to get clean it was too much for you yeah I just you know when you just start going down the rabbit hole you're like what am I doing my life I'm watching more than ever ever since we started doing porn because now I like you get inspiration I appreciate it more I'm like watching and I'll be like beating off like trying to catch a nut real quick in the morning you'd be like oh that was a good shot and I'll be thinking like oh we should do that shot and I'm like oh I screen shot inspirational shots all the time And I'll take a picture of the girl's ass to send to her. And then I'm like, well, it is like 9 a.m.

Maybe I don't want her to know that I'm beating off right now. I always know when you're beating off. It's crazy. It's crazy, though. Like, you still beat off, but you have so much sex. Yeah, well, it's like training. Like, I have to beat off, like. Stamina training.

I get that. I can relate to that. People don't get it that, like, we'll have, it'll be Tuesday. And I'll have a plug talk episode at noon and at 2 p.m. And I'll, I have to beat off, like, early in the day so I can be, like, desensitized and, like, ready to go. For time. you know yeah i get a lot times i'm busting three three plus nuts a day damn for the podcast yeah that's crazy got to go in there why stop doing that yeah she's like don't dab me up no more so when you guys

first met like obviously you were kind of already doing stuff like what on snapchat uh kind of yeah but it was like she asked me on our like first time hanging out like what do you think of this idea about yeah because i had like sexy photos on my instagram and so it was the kind of thing that like people had approached me about like hey have you ever thought about selling your nudes but i wasn't on board yet because i was still like a regular person at the time who had never considered doing that sort of thing and then so you were just doing sexy content on instagram i was just posting bikini photos like the kind of thing that like is totally like a regular girl any girl normal would post that right yeah it's a little early and i remember her saying like yeah it's like i'm gonna

charge people like five bucks a month to and i'll just like post some like you know pictures of my ass or like you know little shit and i'm like people are gonna pay you five bucks a month for that It wasn't even five bucks. It was 30 bucks and it was like my first month, you know, I had no followers back then in comparison. But this before OnlyFans was like this thing that everybody understood. So she's explaining the concept of an OnlyFans to me. And I'm just thinking like, you got your head up your ass.

Wait, so it was 30 bucks for that? No, but I, well, we hadn't heard of it before. It was like a totally new idea, you know. You were talking about On OnlyFans. No, no, no, no. There was no, no. There was no. Private Snapchat at the time.

It was like you sold access to your Snapchat. Like you would become friends with me, but you'd be paying me 30. bucks a month to be my friend and then I was posting nudes on my stories so then you'd see my nudes and like someone approached me and was like hey if you do this you'll make six grand a week and I was like what there's no way but when I told you you were like oh you should definitely do it did you make six grand a week my first month I made over 30 grand and I had like no followers in comparison to what I have now what did you have how many followed you remember like 50k maybe on Instagram so would you recommend like obviously people going to see this and like they're interested in doing this would you recommend people do this shit I mean it was a very very very different time on social media back then. Yeah. So back then it was easier to grow on Instagram. I think one of my photos hit the Explorer page and I got 50,000 followers

on from that photo. This is what year would it was? 2016. You know, a little oozy like the blue pick. Yeah. He liked one of my photos and it got on the Explorer page and it got so many likes. Um, and you know, back then you can, you can do swipe ups and links and you weren't going to get deleted immediately for things like that.

So you could straight up be like swipe up to watch me have sex and, you know, so it was easy to grow and make a lot of money back then. Yeah. versus now, you know, you just get shattered. You know what's crazy. You know what's going on now. Because I, I don't even know if I should say this or not, but like I'll talk to people at Instagram who are like,

you know, they're not always supposed to be telling you shit. And like I'll find out that if you say certain things on your story, you get shadow band. Oh yeah. And you don't even know that it's happening. Yeah. Like, except when you go look at your engagement, you're like, wait, why did I go from my half?

But if you go try to type in your name using another account, then you'll notice you have to type in the whole name in order for your name to pop up. And it happened on my like really safe. for work mom account. I like shared one of Nikki Minaj's really nasty photos on my story. Not nasty. There are bars watching. It was nude. It was naked. She was naked and I posted it to my story and I was like, why is this allowed? It got deleted for my story. Yeah. I appealed it. It got reposted. And then I got deleted again and I got shadow banned for sharing a photo that Nikki Minaj still has on her Instagram right now. So, you know, it doesn't take a lot for you to get

shadow back on Instagram. This is the same thing. I mean, there's, but there's different versions of it now. But I did a, Joe Rogan posted this picture of like, you know, when all the, the insurrection shit was happening? There was like the guy with horns and like a beard. And everyone was tagging me like in like on Twitter. And they're like, is this used jokingly? Yeah. And I posted it to my Instagram and I was like, I just captioned it.

This is not me. And it got tons of engagement. And then it got taken down with Joe Rogan had the same picture up. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They treat things different. But totally different. But this whole shadow band shit's interesting because like it's there, there's different levels to it.

Like there's 14 day one. There's like a few day one. And the one that I realized I wasn't, kept happening to me because I would post clips like on my YouTube or I'm like saying something like fuck you or I'll fuck you up or something stupid and they give you like a 72 hour like ban but they tell you they don't tell you this shit okay but you just notice with your engagement and they deny that this is even a thing yeah they deny that shadow bound exists publicly why because they don't want to admit to it they admit to it then they might have to actually be transparent about it which I think is their worst nightmare because they wouldn't be able to even handle the flow of having to maintain all these conversations with people and everything but that's why the social media companies really need to be regulated by the government and I feel like it's probably coming at some point yeah I wonder what that's going to do because it's at any sort of point where there's a great major regulation it's going to it's going to definitely affect the end user and also the creators I don't know it might be worse honestly but I mean things things have got to change at

some point because fucking Instagram's crazy but I mean like even TikTok she just got her TikTok deleted her tick talk is like damn near all stuff with the kid slash her just looking cute nothing even remotely and I hadn't posted over a month I swear they just look you up and they're like, oh, she's a pornster on Google. Therefore she's getting deleted, you know? Yeah, I mean, I mean, I've even one of the girls that I manage Noel, she just would get like kicked off of things just because she's in a bikini and they're like, she's young, but she's not that young. Yeah. But they'll just, they'll just be like, okay, I don't know.

If she's 16, they say like child stuff, but it's like she's 20. The algorithm thinks she looks too young. So they just like, yeah. I mean, I lost an Instagram page recently, like my fourth one for impersonating myself. like this is how fucked up the app has gotten you know crazy the crazy thing is you don't really they never really you don't have anyone to reach out to it's like they just kind of like hey good luck and if you can kind of figure out to talk to someone you get some information but you don't really get much help and we're all people with millions of followers imagine what it's like for regular as people

that nobody to listen to them when they get deleted and shit because I hear it all the time from rappers who are on jack shit they got like you know 20 000 followers or whatever and they just like get their shit deleted and they have to start all over insanely devastating to career at that point. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like I don't know that I I hope at some point they I don't know like maybe you could just email like it's just crazy because there's no customer service at all. It's so much worse. Remember like back five years ago? This is not happening in anybody. If you heard about something in their Instagram believe five years ago they basically probably had to like murder somebody on their feed you know like like really bad. What do you think is causing the like

the constriction. It's just more and more. I feel like they're getting they're trying to create better and better tools to figure out who's doing bad stuff on the app. And I think these tools are not working properly. And they're getting a lot of people deleted. But I think in taking all those people down, they're taking down people who aren't actually breaking the rules. But they're trying to improve. I think they're making the effort.

It's just not working well. It's just the way the algorithm set up. It just seems to be targeting. Yeah. Like if you use, let's say you call someone a bitch, but it's a joke. Like they see the bitch as a bad word.

And then they shadow ban you for that, but you're making a joke maybe even to yourself. But they're inherently, they're changing the way that we use social. media because even for me if you posted something making fun of me as a joke and I wanted to respond like hey shut up bradley you big bitch yeah my mind would immediately go to no don't do that because yeah yeah it's funny the dude i was just talking you about like somebody posted something joking around with him and he commented i'm a kidnap you and he can't post for 24 hours because

he's right i'm going to kidnap you even though obviously he was not actually planning on kidnapping yeah it's like joke you can't really even make jokes anymore but now everybody knows that and now everybody like codes their language so that you can't like even the gang members I know who are like the most violent people and they're basically threatening each other online they just come up with this crazy slang that like is hard for me to understand would be impossible for a regular person to understand but you know that they figure out ways to say I'm going to shoot you so they can still get those threats in I am going to shoot you because you know they'll be all over that you've had some incidences with that huh like someone pulling up on you with some guns

That did happen, yeah. Is it, so do you, do you ever feel like maybe you, I don't know, want to get further away from that sort of industry as you kind of like, you know, you have a kid and do you ever worry about that? Nah, no, I just like am more careful, you know. What do you think? I worry. Every time we leave for work, I worry.

I'm not going to lack. Like I don't. I do think that maybe sometimes my worry is a little irrational, but especially now that we have a kid. Like, I was never afraid of dying until I had her. and now I'm constantly afraid of dying because I'm like who I have such a purpose like who is gonna take care of you

I'm the best one suited for this job and same for him you know he's the best suited person to be her father and so every time I like worry what's gonna happen to him I worry about her and it's like it's crazy how it happens overnight I was always living my life in such a way where it was like you know shit happens and now everything's so serious

yeah do you feel the same way after having a kid oh yeah definitely except like not worrying about the gun you don't worry about that It's like you can't, I kind of can't worry about it. No, I worry about it, but it's just like, I'm not going to, like, protect myself by not leaving the house. I'm going to protect myself by keeping people around me to protect me. Like, with the store now, like, when you came to do the interview at the store back in the day, there was no fucking security. Yeah, no, we just pulled up.

Yeah, and now it's like, we have a new store opening on Fairfax probably within the next, like, month or two. And it's like, immediately when we're talking about how much money it's going to cost, it's like, okay, we're going to have full-time armed security all the time. like big ass gun out on his hip so that nobody ever thinks that they can fuck around which is you know that's just probably a lot better than not leaving the house you know

but then at the same time I mean like you see that shit that happened to Kodak he went to a Justin Bieber party and he's walking out and he gets shot in the fucking leg it's like I'm curious like because I just saw him the other day

my buddy Steve gave him like a car in Miami but like how do you because apparently he was with Lil Baby and like one other famous rapper and like how you just randomly get shot though like what do you think's happening like because like it's not like there's it sounds like celebrities are there it's like there's like there's like there's random people that can just pull up but even celebrities got guns sometimes

yeah but so it's like was one of his homies accidentally shoot him or has i've i've watched like videos that basically break down what happened but i mean more or less it was just like entourage members of another rapper who ended up getting in a scuffle like somebody bumped into somebody somebody's yelling at somebody boom all of a sudden they're just getting into it which is like that that that's the scary part is that like yes somebody's showing up to try to kill you is scary but that's like way less likely than like a random shot you just being there and some bullshit just goes off you know you're standing there with the wrong person and somebody decides they want to shoot them and maybe you're just standing there i mean that's the shit that scares me

yeah because that could have been like that could have been like a head shot you know like who knows how random the shots are right shot in the leg and he was happy he was laughing about he's like oh they finally got me yeah yeah he was he was limping but honestly if i got shot in the leg that's how i would feel too i'd be so thankful like yeah fuck yeah the leg yeah yeah i'd be moving Moving to another state if you got shot in the leg. I would be so extra about it. I'm not going to lie. The leg is definitely a spot where I wouldn't mind getting shot at for sure.

I mean, if you're going to get shot, shit, the leg sounds pretty good, I guess, right? Yeah, you have to get shot, but. I don't like this conversation. Yeah, no, it's not good. It's not, but it's real. I mean, it's a real thing. I'm just curious, like, how the fuck, yeah, it sounds like entourage shit. But you've had experience with, like, I mean, you've met, even like, what, X, you knew X way before, obviously that happened.

Did his first interview? Yeah, it's just crazy. Do you think more and more rappers are going to get shot? I mean, it's like every fucking day. It's like inevitable? I would say that like gangster rap is more popular now than probably ever. And when I say gangster rap, I mean like people rapping on gangster shit. And that includes, you know, dudes basically in the hood with like 10,000 followers who, you know,

are making crazy ass records like saying that I'm going to kill your fucking uncle and all this bullshit. And it's like, yeah, I mean, it's probably not. slowing down anytime soon at least based on what we can see happening in the culture because I feel like the music just amplifies the conflict between people so much yeah is you think it's because like I always like I feel like listening to gangster rap shit back in the day it wasn't as I mean like how actual gangster is it you know what I'm saying like nowadays is it really like or they say it because it sounds cool no it's it's crazy yeah it's because it's like you know back in the day when we would listen to rappers dis each other they would be dissing other

rappers, right? The other day I was interviewing somebody from Dipset, and we're talking about what rap was like in the early 2000s, mid-2000s. And it's like, I said to him, I'm like, you never, I never heard you guys diss anybody besides other famous rappers. And he's like, yeah, because why would we? Why the fuck would I have a record deal and then be putting out a record to say, hey, fuck Carl down the street. But now with these rappers, it's like, that's just what they do. Like, it's just inherent. Like, there's so many rappers I can name that basically only have a career because they are dissing each other and it's like the fans are so good at this point at knowing what's real and what isn't that they just latch on to the shit that they can tell is

real and it's just like yeah i don't know it's a really bizarre cycle how how do you know like obviously you say you did one of x's first interview like how would you spot talent and be like oh this is going to be good i mean that was when i first first started doing interviews so how old were you this was 2016 so i guess it was six years ago so i would have been 32 and I was just downtown had the bike shop and there was just people hitting us up all the time like you know like wanting to do interviews there was like you know underground artists that I knew about

I had a lot of people in my comments telling me to interview him at that time even though he only had maybe like 10,000 Twitter followers so people they loved him I remember he had 16,000 SoundCloud followers and the song Look at me which is like his biggest song at that time that had a million views on SoundCloud

which is like really not that big like if somebody asked me for an interview now and they were like I have a million boys on SoundCloud I'd be like, okay, whatever. But, yeah, I just, like, thought the music was all right. And it was honestly so early in my career that it wasn't like I was just doing some interview with this, like, really small artists. It was like, no, I was interviewing a lot of small. Because you were building yourself as well.

Yeah, because I was taking every single tiny opportunity that I was getting offered. And he also really wanted to do the interview. And I had seen all these videos of him fighting. Yeah. He had been, like, stabbing people and beating the shit out of people on camera and stuff. so I was like kind of fascinated by that part of him. Yeah. It's just so interesting like that like your whole come up in the like at least the music industry

and the interview like industry in regards to it. Um, was there was there any inspiration like in that like how did you know to go in that direction when you're like, I'm going to do this podcast, I'm going to interview rappers and it's going to be this thing. I was already doing interviews with BMX pros for like a year, maybe two years before I really started interviewing rappers and like I would just get opportunities here and there to interview like underground sound cloud rappers and they would do really well and then I just like kind of slowly started to realize like wow people are really gravitating towards this because even with

no jumper at first when I started it it was like I was interviewing comedians and YouTubers and porn stars and people with clothing lines and all kinds of shit and then as time went by it started to become like oh like people want me to just be a rap podcast like yeah like no matter who I interview people are treating this like a rap podcast and just started to become clear to me like I'm way better suited to do these rapper interviews than pretty much anybody else because I didn't see anybody else who was doing content at the time. I was trying to interview up-and-coming rappers. Now that's so common.

It's like now sometimes I don't even really, it's hard to get excited about interviewing underground rappers because there's so many people doing it that it just feels blown out. But at that time, it felt like incredibly essential, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. And when, what along, at what point did you guys meet? I feel like we honestly met like kind of right after you interviewed X.

I remember you tell we went shopping one day to to ikea and remember you played x from you're like this guy he's it he's gonna be next and uh because usually after i interview people i don't really listen to him that much at least for a while because it's like i'll listen to an artist a shitload till i interview him and then i kind of need to take a break for a period of time and like for some reason with x i kept listening to him and i was like he's dope i was telling her i'm like you know this this dude's really going to be something and then all of a sudden like a couple months later he blew up yeah and sometimes when smaller YouTubers asked me like how did you become like you know they're like I've been doing content for a couple of years and I feel like I have a good

fan base I got a couple hundred thousand subscribers etc like how do I really take it to the next level and when I really like asked myself why my shit blew up blew up it's like it was that interview and some other interviews too because it's like around that time I had the first six nine interview I had the first little yadi interview I had the first of a lot of people's interviews but the X one was just on steroids. Is it still your biggest one ever? Yes and it's almost the biggest hip-hop interview of all time on YouTube. Holy shit. The only ones that are bigger in terms of views are 6-9 and soldier boy both on breakfast club. Holy fuck. Yeah. Yeah. So, what about the coin at that time? Oh, I'm sorry. No, no, it's cool. That's right when we met. Yeah. So I've

watched all of this. When did you, when did you realize? Like, when did you realize, like, when did you realize he loved him? And when did you realize that? This is a really cool question. Before she remember. Yeah. You're stupid. Yeah. Like at what point, like how many years in where you're like, I love this? This guy. Years. I wouldn't say it took years. I don't know. It took a week. I mean, I liked him, but I felt like I kept my distance because he was just like such a scumbag. You know, like I knew that especially in the very beginning, I was a booty call. Like he was not treating me like I was somebody to love. I feel like most relationships kind of start. Especially here. Yeah. I feel like for sure. That's all I had in me. But he went on a trip with his family. And so he was gone for like 10 days. And he was like, I think you were at some party with Little Pump. And there was a bunch of porn stars there. And you were like, I think I might. again, my chick sucks later and FaceTime you. And I was like, no, that's okay. I don't want you to FaceTime me.

Because I was still playing it. Cool. Like, I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm not, you know, we're not exclusive. I'm cool. And I was like, no, that's all right. You can do whatever you want, but don't FaceTime me. You text her that. He texted me that.

He was, I feel like he was testing me. And then I was like, yeah, do whatever you want. But like, don't call me. I'm good. I don't need to see that. And then he was like, all right, but like, if you do anything, I'll kill you. And I was like, okay, he loves me. Oh my God.

I think I was on a Xanax. I don't know. It's all a big blur. Yeah. When you were at some porn party or whatever, I was like, okay, he really likes me. He really likes me because he said, I'll kill you off you. If I do anything. I mean, I wasn't going to because I was like, in my head, I was like exclusive with him, you know?

But I just knew he needed a little more time. But he's a very different man now. So we'll forget about this part of his life. Sure. How did you guys know when you're like, oh, I want to have a kid when you're like for sure about it? And when you made the decision, were you 100% certain about it? I've always known with 100% certainty that I've wanted. kids and I felt like I've always been prepared um psychologically not like financially but like

you know by the time we decided we would have kids obviously all those things were in place but he decided he wanted kids after he met his nephews but we weren't really like certain when we would have kids she always wanted kids and she would always kind of like say shit about it like look how cute they are oh like if we had a kid yada yada and like you know it was always just kind of the thing where she would bring it up and I'd be like yeah I ain't talking about that right now We went trick-or-treating in October for 2019 with his nephews. And he was the one to me was like, well, you know, we're already not going out to a party tonight.

We're all going trick-or-treating with my nephews instead. Like maybe we should have a kid. So then it was his idea. It always has had to be his idea, all of our relationship moves because I was never going to like push him in any direction, you know? Like he was like, I'm never going to move in with a girlfriend. And then two weeks later was like, will you move in with me? So he's always had to make the call.

When did you realize you loved her? tell me it's kind of a difficult question well it was like that whole acid trip thing kind of like made me like move out of the house that I was sharing with a bunch of dudes at that time and I just kind of realized like oh I need to

start taking my life more seriously and so I move out and then all of a sudden like I'm hanging out with her more and more and over time I started to realize like oh like she actually cares about me like she doesn't just want to like fuck me and like go out to the club with me or some shit What made you realize that though?

Like what what what actions of hers made you realize she actually loved you and didn't just want to get your laundry for no fucking reason Tender just like really like clearly like just gave a shit like I don't know she just like actually Let me kind of walk all over for a while until I figured out that like oh like she actually really cares about me I feel like you're waiting for me to be unloyal like at some point you're like always like guys are always waiting for that 100% of fact what he's saying it sounds fucked up but it's so accurate it like really like spending time with a woman and then not trying to like maliciously just treat her bad but you almost want to kind of see like is she what is she really here for is she going to stick around through this and then like how do you act in relationship to

those things as they happen is it like are you super mad about it and it's it's like it's so fucked up but you're saying it's so true this the way that you kind of figure it out at least I don't know I'm identifying with him on this yeah I mean a relationship about phases and the beginning phases like you're kind of testing each other you're trying to figure out like what the other person wants and then once you graduate to this place of like okay now we're solid now we know that we are for

each other because it seems like sexually let each other in more sexually it's way easier to figure that out at least from my perspective like it's easier to figure that out with a woman than to figure out like the actual relationship part yeah right like could you relate to that like it's easier you're like the sex you can figure the sex out yeah

I mean because I mean realistically I could have sex with almost any woman and have an hour at time you know but then like think about like you guys waking up together in the morning making breakfast around the same time brushing your tea taking showers leaving my house together and then actually linking up at night and then spending more time with each other if you could pull all that off and actually be on the same page as the other person and that's just the bare minimum that's like a regular day that's not even talking about i feel like i just didn't annoy you so many people annoy you that

you're just like she's not annoyed she can hang out but you know you make a But that's normal, though. That's normal. Little annoyance. I mean, I find it very annoying. It's okay. What you're saying is so fucking accurate, though. Yeah.

I love it, man. So she somehow broke me out of my little framework. I was already in. I made him a little softer. Yeah. And then our baby made him a lot softer. So now I get a soft version of him and it's cool. She's a nice kid, yeah.

Would you, would you, would you, I mean, based on your experience and the things that you guys are doing, would you want your kid to grow up and do the same thing? I was always, I'm always curious about this. Like, it's a job. Exactly.

Exactly. Let's say, let's say she grew up and she was like, I want to do what you're doing. I mean, we might disagree about this. I feel like as long as she's doing what she's doing because she actually wants to do it and feels good in it, then I would support her. I am afraid of the same things that I deal with for her, which is like just things girls deal with. You know, like the job I'm in, it makes me care about my outward appearance more than I would like to care of. about it and I just I wouldn't necessarily want those feelings like physical appearance you know like the industry I'm in I'm like okay can my boobs be perky or should I get a breastlift and like all the girls in this industry like this is all they're constantly talking about because our job is

our physical appearance and I know that in the grand scheme of things like that shouldn't matter like this is just the outward shell that contains the person and so I want her to know that what's inside matters more but how could I convey that to her while also living the life that I live and so that's like one of the reasons that I wouldn't necessarily want this for her, but not because of the actual sex part, if that makes sense. Yeah. You know, like, because I don't think that that's inherently bad or immoral or unethical. Well, I mean, it's interesting. I think regardless of that industry are not, it seems like most women in general are pushed down that same path of like, you have to look like this. You have to be like this. It's the same reason I wouldn't want her to have a

TikTok at 13 is because I, those same things happen to girls who are on social media. If you just look at the statistics, you know, it's really bad for them. But like if my kid found her at you know 21 and it was like oh you could have this like normal job and make you know 40 grand a year or you could you know post photos of your boobs on only fans and make 40 grand a month i mean i would have to be a pretty big dickhead to be like no you cannot do that like yes you know i really like i want to raise a good kid that is going to have a good head on her shoulders and that is going to not fall for some bullshit that some dude is selling her or whatever but ultimately like whatever she wants to do with her life once she's of age is what it is you know

I just want to like equip her to be the smartest most like you know equipped for the world person but ultimately if that leads her into going and doing something like only fans I mean hey this what is you know not to mention there's a shitload of girls that we know on only fans are making a fuckload of money just posting like you know cute photos and stuff it's not like yes her mom might be eating dad's ass on only fans but I mean stop it don't even say that sex then every girl's doing God, it's so funny, dude. So fucking funny. I love it.

Your mom's a little crazy. I'm crazy. You're nuts. Which one do you think he's actually crazier than you? Absolutely. Yeah. Do you think you're actually crazier than her? Well, I mean, by any objective measure, I could think to measure craziness, yeah, probably.

I feel like my job title makes people think I'm some crazy being. No, you seem super, like, level-headed and, like, actually really smart. I'm just pretty normal, and I feel like sometimes, especially, now that I'm a mom, I need to really, like, break out of that and, like, listen to some ratchet-ass music to go and do my job because it's like I'm fighting these two different, they couldn't be more different, right? Super different. She came to my office the other day, like, to do a meeting with one of our employees,

the Plug Talk employee, and, like, it's at my place of work and to jump her office. And, like, you know, there's a lot of blunts being smoked. There's a lot of gangsters pulling out to do interviews and whatnot in and out the whole time. There's a lot of loud music. There's a lot of, you know, people screaming at each other, telling crazy loud jokes, et cetera. And she's just like, she's just like, wow, it's a fucking party in here today. And I felt like very proud because that didn't really feel like a party to me. It was just like, this is just a normal day at the office.

And I was just like, you haven't been here in a while. That's cool. But 99% of my time, I'm like, you know, I'm in sweatpants. I'm chasing around a dog and a daughter with changing a diaper. And then I have to like go like a couple times a week and get my glam done and totally change my frame of mind and just be seductive for the camera and, like, create a fantasy for the consumer who's watching, you know, and it's, um, I guess I'm still trying to like figure out the balance, but it's, but I'm getting more used to it for sure. Because I find this, the thing that I find

most interesting and I can relate, obviously not to the porn stuff, but filming content, um, specifically is something that I really love to do, which is like training and then now having to make it content for everyone to digest to get some sort of information or entertainment or whatever. So it's like, obviously like sex we all love to do it right and then now you have to like go okay now i'm having sex for a purpose which is to entertain like you said to look a certain way so does it affect the way that you are actually having sex like does it does it does it make it better or worse because i know sometimes when we're having sex on camera i like forget that the cameraman is there and it's like i am enjoying myself so much i want it to go on forever i forget that it's a film and it's like it's so

much fun because I would say that like off camera sex is more fun sometimes because you're not thinking about like am I opening up enough can the you actually see my vagina the angle whatever but there are times where that line gets completely blurred and we had a threesome with this girl hasn't even come out yet for plug talk here and I kept telling him like kira noir okay she is gorgeous and like I had done a lesbian scene with her and he and he I kept telling him like she's so good at eating pussy she like just rubbed me all over she made me feel so good I wanted it to go on forever And then we had her on plug talk. And like, I'm watching her fuck him.

And I'm like, it's great, huh? Like, it's great, right? And like, she's an amazing kisser. And I could just see it in his face. Like, wow. And, like, that was one of those scenes where I was like, it didn't feel like work at all. I was just so much fun. All my friends, I was like, hey, if y'all ever get a chance to fuck this girl,

do it because this was a wild ride. Wow. So does this, you ever get jealous shit like that? Because that's so, like, that's so, it's so different. That, like, most people can't say, oh. So I don't get jealous as jealous as I used to Because before I was like way more insecure in our relationship I wasn't sure how much he liked me

I wasn't really sure if he wanted to be with me be with me And like you know As our relationship has gotten stronger and stronger It's kind of harder for me to get like truly truly jealous If I watch a girl deep throat him And I can't deep throat him that way I am kind of bombed Because I'm just like my mouth is just physically not as big as her mouth

So like I cannot do it And I know I know he likes being deep throat I hear the voice that happens the noise that comes out of his mouth I'm like he really fucking likes that and I can't do it and I got my dick sucked by a lot of girls in my life I'll tell you like she she's top one two percent but I'm not Adrian and Chetchick and I'm not Carmen karma and that's okay I love them and they can do it when we're doing pled talk I mean literally some of these girls have like the craziest throat game like the average dude will never know what it's like to get hit from one

these girls like they're iconic like fucking legends of sucking dick yeah and it's like that is weird to like have to like be like you know experiencing a girl who has like a superpower with my girl but I feel like you know for the most part we I keep trying I can't make my mouth bigger but if I can get the surgery your mouth is fire thank you but those are the moments where I'm like I'm a little jealous but not enough where I'm like actually mad about it because like I can't blame him for like for liking it and I want to do the scene with the girl she's great at her job she's talented she's beautiful so it's like you know I don't know yeah how does you guys develop to such a I mean it seems like such a dope relationship to be able to even allow that to exist.

I think it's because I've watched him have enough sex and then as soon as he nuts, he literally leaves the room and turns on YouTube and doesn't give a fuck about the girl that I'm like, I know it's not going to actually mean anything. You know what I mean? It's not like he's not falling in love with these girls. He's not like trying to fuck them again after. It's like he did it and he's kind of over it.

Sometimes I am like, we should get her to like come hang out for the rest of the night. Like, can we pair a little more to like come kick it with us all night? We did not hire prostit or stuff. It's not how it works. But yeah, there obviously are some girls we have much more fun with, but, um, you said, so which ones in particular stood out? Kieran, can you write that down?

Can you write that down? She was definitely, probably, is a goddess. The most, I don't know, we just said like, she's so sensual. But that's the thing about it is that when you are fucking a really amazing lover with your girl, it is like, it can cause you to have like even more of a connection together. And there's been a bunch of girls that I could think of. And Zianne, me and her when we fucked her together, oh, my God. I felt like an animal.

And we felt like super connected. Like we went home right after and fucked with shit out of each other for like another half hour, you know, like just because when you're fucking a girl that you're really having that much fun with, it's just like, I don't know, it's a great feeling. Carmen Carman we hooked up with and like they were both just going crazy. It was just, I don't know. Yeah, it's like, when you get a good one, it's really good. You guys are in group chats with your dudes and you're like trying to explain how much fun

you had with a girl. But like your friend's never going to be there. Well, maybe you guys have a threesome. Who knows? But, like, I get to, like, share my experience with him. And we both get to be, like, that girl was so much fun. And you guys can't really, like, do that with each other. We get to talk about, like, a girl's sexual performance.

Like, we're talking about a restaurant that we just went to. Like, oh, my God. The blowjob was amazing. Like, I would, you know, we need to do that again sometime. That was incredible. Wow. Yeah. And, like, for Plug talk, a lot of the time, it's like, I'm hooking up with the girl first.

And he's kind of, like, offstage watching. And I'm, like, watching him like, yeah, this is great. You know. With the cure girl, she fully, like, made her orgasm before. I even got involved. Like I'm looking at Twitter trying to like read about Ukraine and like trying to make my

I'm trying not to have like a fucking massive red raging boner by the time I go in I want to be kind of like relax when I enter the scene but I'm watching them hook up for like 15 minutes I'm getting all wild

I like to see you just you never you never get jealous of that no yeah you do you do you are you have like an open relationship with guys no no no no no no no yeah do you yeah seriously I have a crush on Amis Cloud from

Euphoria and Adam Adam is a little bit a little bit hurt about this I gotta take it yeah but you know I'm like you interview all these girls on your Patreon you tell them how hot their boobs are I gotta be able to like a photo here and there babe is it okay it's fair

okay it's fair euphoria is crazy that whole thing that whole thing like I don't know I'm not gonna spoil it for anyone I'm not gonna spoil it we had sex with somebody from Euphoria really yeah

Fay is a porn star so we actually worked with her in like 2018 2018 oh I saw I saw a post or something about this I sent me the video because I don't know honestly don't even really remember hooking up with her and I would really like to review the video yeah yeah go over the footage she's uh she's an adult actress she kept her adult name which is really cool um but i met her at riley's birthday like four or five years ago and then me and him did a scene with her a few years ago and we actually saw her at riley's wedding last summer now she's fay yeah yeah character in it yeah it's it's that's that whole thing's so crazy because it almost kind of like glorifies drug use like to some crazy extent it seems like it obviously it's like the bad side yeah yeah it's like the bad thing you For me, though, I feel like I would love my kid to see Euphoria because it's like what you see Rue going through, like that's really what drug addiction is like, you know, like it's actually terrible. Like sometimes it does make the actual act of being on drugs seem a little bit sexy and romantic more than, you know, it should be. But I mean, music does that too.

And I don't know. Like to me, I would like my kid to see Euphoria if they were like 16, you know, like just fucking this is what this shit is really like. You know, this is like how not fun drugs are in the long term. yeah so what what else besides like i know you you managed some only fan girls do you have any other businesses that are that people maybe don't know about because obviously everything we do is like content out there putting stuff out there do you have any other businesses that you're like everything we do is really public yeah that's a big goal of mine like i really want to like you know have more businesses that kind of like just exist not like 100% anonymously but

like that aren't necessarily based on me being on camera Like I like being on camera, but I already feel like I'm kind of on camera so much that if I'm gonna. like people come to me all the time and like I want to start this new podcast with you where we do this every week and I'm just in my head like no I'm like are you on camera way too much like I would love to like I have a friend who has a fucking cool ass food truck and I was just like I could do that like I could I could start a food truck and promote the food truck and make it a cool ass food truck and then I don't it's not going to involve me sitting behind the fucking grill or sitting on camera you know like but like I look at my friends who have brands like my friend Zach from FTP who's just been the whole time I've known him six years. he's just been making clothes and just making the coolest shit that he can and that's he wakes up every day he never is on camera people don't even know what his face looks like

he covers his face up in photos and he just makes the coolest shit that he can and I respect the fuck out of that because for me I've always been sacrificing myself putting myself on camera telling about last week on the podcast I'm talking about how I got gonorrhea

the week before and like you know I just have to tell it everyone that but I'm just like you know I sacrifice myself like if I'm going through something and it's kind of tough, I just put it on camera. It's all content, yeah. And I feel like I do enough of that that I don't really crave doing more of that. You get tired of it sometimes because I can relate.

Like there's times I'm like, my whole life seems to be pretty much on camera. You have to be on all the time. You can't have a day where you're like, don't feel good enough. The other day I did five podcasts in a day, like 10 hours of filming. And I was just like, you know, it felt great to be able to drop it. I drop an episode every day of the next week. And it only took me one day out of the prior week. It's dope.

Yeah. But then at the same time, it's like, I was so spent by the end of that. And I was just like, fuck, like, I just, you know, I can afford to do like a day. But that's kind of my preference is to have a day where we just fucking knock out all the content for the next week. Because then I can stay in the same zone. What I sometimes have a problem with is the code switching element of it where it's like I will fucking go in the morning and film a plug talk scene with her and be fucking some girl. Then I got to put on my clothes on. Act normal.

go do two more interviews and then show up back at the house to fuck her in the ass for only fans you know it's like sometimes it could be tough to like be switching from one person to another you know it's so funny just i know as a as a viewer though watching this they're going to be like oh such a hard life adam having to fuck and then having to fuck more all i gotta say about that is you do it because listen like almost every guy like talks like they could just do porn when in reality like 99% of guys could not do porn and i say that as someone who i am not a goat of this shit at all. I look at the dudes who are actually, like a Johnny Sins or like all these guys that we know who are fucking, they're legends. They show up on set. The girls love them.

They're, they're, they're, you know, comforting. They make the girls feel comfortable. They can get hard on a fucking snap of a finger. They can fuck you for two hours without nutting.

And then as soon as the director says, nut, boom, they can just do it. I mean, guys, at home, be honest with yourself. You can't,

you can't do that because I can't, I can barely do that. And I consider myself pretty good on camera. And they have massive dicks. So there's another thing. If you got a five or a six inch dick, you're automatically out of the conversation. Nobody wants to see that.

You know, like I have a small dick for porn and I have like a pretty big dick. You know, but like I, it's just like, it's so much harder than you would think and it's so not just fucking. You know, it's not you.

It's not you coming home from the bar after eight beers and, you know, fucking some girl for 20 minutes. It's just, it's not that. Yeah. No,

it's crazy. I mean, obviously it's, it's not that. I just think it's a funny, it was just a funny thing when you said it like, I got to do this. But it makes sense because it's the it's the having to be in this headspace

and having to be in this head space. The same thing you were talking about earlier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Being a mom, but then also like coming here, having to like be fucking super sexy and seductive and sexual. And then right when it's over, I'm like, all right,

we have to go do bedtime. Got to go do bedtime, you know? What are you most challenged with now? Both. You guys can answer it separately, obviously. Honestly,

I feel like just my identity is just in shambles kind of because I got pregnant. I had the kid. And then right after I had Parker, my Instagram got deleted. So I was like, okay, like, I don't have my Instagram. So am I still an influencer? Lenna the plug again. Yeah, because I just feel like the mom thing is pulling me in so hard. And then, you know, losing your social media, you're kind of like, well, should I just do the mom thing?

Is this like what life is trying to tell me? But then it's like no. Because the problem is that when I'm with Parker, I feel like I'm being a bad businesswoman. And then when I'm at work, I feel like I'm being a bad mom. And so it's such a fucked up problem. problem and like it makes it so that you almost can't enjoy anything that you're doing and trying to find the marriage and the balance because I know that like I don't want Parker to grow up and think like all I can ever be is just a caretaker like that's totally fine if that's what you are

because it is honestly the hardest job in the world but I do want more and I want her to see examples of more you mean more and yourself of things that you want to do and accomplish and I want to do and just an identity for myself outside of being a mom yeah because at some point you know she's going to grow up and she's going to want to never be around and just be with her friends and go do her thing and and then what would what would my identity be then then I'll have another identity crisis you know and so I think that is just the hardest thing is just figuring out figuring figuring that all out you know it's just fluid like life in general is like this yeah we constantly are figuring out what you know what makes us truly happy what makes us truly

fulfill what's our purpose and it's it's shifting yeah it's really just identifying where you're at being like okay being in it as much as possible which is why I think this whole conversation is so interesting in which you guys do work is like to be best at something at any given time, whether it's porn or it's like the interviews or being a mom, like you have to like be in it, like be in it as much as possible. And you guys seem to like do that throughout the day so much shifting to the next thing. That it's super, that seems super exhausting. Yeah. Wake up in the morning and there's like a little rug rat and there's like, you know, you have to watch their every move because they're just trying to kill themselves all

the time. And so you really have to constantly watch them. And then, you know, I'll take her like her music class and then after the music class I went straight into glam and then we're doing the porn stuff and then coming back home and washing off all the makeup and being the mom again like you know yeah it's just a lot of going back and forth what do you find most difficult it's definitely just the balance because I mean for me like grinding my ass off and just working every day all day like kind of comes naturally to me at this point I love that I've just been doing that forever like that's like for me to wake up at eight in the morning and be in the office at like you know 10 or 11 and do content for 10 hours and then go to somebody's fucking

album release party and film a vlog or whatever like that's like the easy thing to do is just to stay in motion and there's like a thing to happen once we had the kid or I was like you know I'm not going to be happy if I'm just grinding my ass off to make money for the rest of my life and I don't actually slow down and spend some time enjoying this you know this is where I'm getting in my life right now yeah because personally you know and also it's like a certain point I mean it was easy to grind fucking 80 hours a week when I like was broken. I was like trying to fucking you know get anything going and then at a certain point it's like well fuck like if I work my ass off this week to make $20,000 more than I was going to make otherwise it doesn't

matter at all like you know just it doesn't affect your happiness anymore so it's kind of like and it doesn't even affect me financially at a certain point because you just have done well enough for yourself that it's like oh like I could do five more YouTube videos this week and it's like gonna stress me the fuck out and basically like run my whole week then the money doesn't even matter to me at some point she's a number whereas my kid if I don't hang out

I was just gone for two days maybe two and a half days in Vegas for the fight and shit and like I get back and my kid is like doing little things like her motions are different and she's crying in like a different way and I'm watching her like just move differently and I'm like I don't know at a certain point it's like it just feels fucking

like a waste of a life if you aren't like zoned in on what your kids doing or a waste of all the work you put in because I saw it with my parents where my parents like they didn't get to spend probably as much time with me as they wanted but it's because they were fucking broke in comparison so like you know what I'm doing like they had to do that like you know I feel like that's the greatest luxury of you know doing well for yourself is that you get to sort of like scale that shit back at a certain point and pay attention to the shit that doesn't make any money but that you care about you know yeah I mean the shit that

really matters in life like those small moments because like specifically with the kids like you're never going to really get that exact time back. Like you say you come back and they're doing things a little different. You're not going to be able to go back and be like, oh, wait, do that again, start that process over. There's so many things that she used to do that she doesn't do anymore. And she's only been on this earth for 16 months. You know, it's like, so it really might be the last time you see her do something when you watch her do something. Like we don't see her crawl anymore.

And then, but we couldn't wait for her to crawl for the first time, you know? So it's just like they're constantly changing. She used to say only hap, as of like last week. And now she could say happy, you know? And so everything is just. constantly changing and you just want to be around for like all of it yeah yeah so it's fuck man don't really slow you down they'll really go one i want a kid so bad i'm gonna be 33 in like two months my advice honestly is have everything else in your life figured the fuck out especially like

if in a position like yours like or ours where like you got to have employees you got to have nannies like you just if you think that you're going to be the only one taking care of the kid but you're also like ambitious then it's just not going to work because there's going to be a lot of fucking time where you're not even have the option to leave because they're going to need you so bad. But I mean, I feel like with us, like the more and more that we figure out people

in our life, like our whole families are here so we're pretty lucky like, you know, we had. Well, I got Natalie and her whole family son. Yeah. You didn't take care of the baby. You're going to. We'll figure it out.

I think it's cute that you want to have a kid. I want to have a kid so bad, man. But what if you have a daughter? I mean, I'd love to have. Okay. I feel like you want a son. I've always wanted two sons because I grew up without a father.

And I've always like wanted to be the father that I didn't have. but I mean I'm at a point where like I've thought about for so long that if I had a daughter I mean I would love it just as much if I had a son he wanted a boy but no I never said that I wanted either one and I never really was like rooting for either one now that I have a girl I am kind of like she's not believing I don't remember it like that but I literally never said one thing about I feel like in the gender reveal vlog if we go back he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like I never said anything about wanting to have a boy like I never predicted it. and never like was rooting for the next one i think we want a boy no yeah i now that i have a girl

i'm kind of like oh shit okay i wonder what it would be like if this is a boy but going into it i didn't even i wasn't trying to root i feel like we're going to have all girls yeah yeah that's that's dope that's dope though yeah but i feel like it's always i feel like most guys want a son i don't know i mean i want a son too i want to i want to experience both i didn't have a brother and there was my family is all girls all the cousins were all girls for some reason so i'm i'm interested in also you know watching a little boy girl up but it doesn't matter to me having a daughter kind of feels like safer in a way because I know how fucked up dudes are really like granted I know how fucked up girls are too but I also feel

like it's just it's different like safer in the sense of like physically protected safe yeah I mean if I have a son there's a lot of shit then I'm gonna have to fucking teach him at some point that mom's not gonna want to know about that like you know like like my life if I was gonna be honest with my kid about like this is how you move around in the world there's a lot of shit that I'm going to have to tell them that I'm really uncomfortable with having to tell them because I've seen a lot of fucked up shit and I've had to deal with a lot of fucked up situations.

You'll have to do the same for a daughter though because it's a lot harder for women to move through the world, don't you think? A pretty girl gets to live in a fucking fantasy world their whole life to be honest. Yeah, because it depends because some, I mean, it's the physicality of like the men thing. It's just a little different.

I'm not saying that like women aren't at danger for certain things, but it's, you know, you talk about like some gang shootings likely probably not going to be shooting at the girls. No, yeah, but I'm just thinking about like, you know, her walking anywhere. Like that's the kind of things I'm thinking about, you know? Like my whole 20s and shit, I was carrying in razor blades and knives and brass knuckles around with me and stuff. And I just don't know how I would like explain to my kid that that's a rational decision or not to mention the other stuff that a lot of people associate with me have to carry around every day. You know, it's like it's just kind of hard for me to imagine like explaining that to my kid and like having to like ready him for that world, you know?

Yeah. It's scary. I guess it's like a different is a different attack right there's different kinds of dangers for yes you know different people for yeah so so plug talk has been around for how long we launched in november so prior to that were you guys still like doing the threesomes and all that shit just for her only fans yeah yeah we were and actually we started we we started filming plug talk like in 2020 back when I was still pregnant and then once I gave birth we had to kind of like hold all of our episodes until we got more so it was like the idea of plug talk is much older

than Plug Talk actually is. And that's why once we started dropping episodes, we had some random episodes where she was pregnant and people are like, she's pregnant again. No, no, no, no, no. But there was a lot of things we had to learn because, like, filming porn in L.A. is not very easy. No one really wants to rent you their house to shoot in.

And if they do, they want to charge you like a ton of money. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to buy a house. And this is going to be the Plug Talk house. We'll have our own shoot location and we won't have to. Damn, you should set up different rooms with different, like, oh, I did. Oh, that's sick.

I got like an interior decorator. and she like made all the rooms like different styles and stuff and like the room we chose for plug talk it was very retro and old like they kept it original so we like leaned into that and that's why the design is very like 70s and orange colors and stuff like that so um i'm still working on the house we're going to like rent it out to people to do photo shoots and stuff but that's been like a there's just been so many things that we've kind of had to figure out while doing this because you can't just shoot porn anywhere there's a pain in the house like what i don't know how does it go with the regulations on that i mean can't you just it's not even just like regulations it's like

someone will be like, okay, this is the house that you can get. It's like, you let's say 200 bucks an hour and, you know, if you're shooting for 10 hours and you can't just like low-key Airbnb something and just do it. You just don't want to get your account shut down. You don't want to get sued. But then people who do let you rent the house, it'll be like, all right, you can use this room and this room, not this room, not this room. And you're like, it's kind of an ugly space. It's not the way that you would want to shoot it.

The furniture is always kind of funky and weird and not cute. And so we just had, we were kind of like, let's just be in control of our brand and let's do it ourselves, you know. So it's going to go from like plug talk, no jumper, everything you guys are doing to like you're going to start renting out space for shoots and it just sounds so it's like It's cool to me. It's cool as fuck. I mean if you get a house that you don't live in, But you're you're paying the mortgage on it and it's all nicely decorated. It's like might as well, you know And I know a lot of girls who just do photo shoots like you know they need something to post on their Instagram. So I and I rent those kinds of spaces all the time. So I'm like you know let me just smart. It's like a fucking crazy empire. It's dope. It's really impressive. appreciate it thank you it reminds me of like the shit that I'm doing the gym space

it's just like in the adult entertainment industry yeah because you don't see that like you like this whole podcast and then the sex thing like I don't I don't know any other podcasts like that we yeah I mean we thought of it like did you like did you is there anyone did that prior to you I don't think so they do they're always separate you yo hand me water hand me water please I feel like a lot of people wouldn't have done it the same way that we did it where we it would be easy for you to film a porn podcast like this where you just have the cameras already film in and you just kind of film it.

We hired like real top notch like porn filmers and like you know professional sound guys, etc. So we spend a shitload of money on our content in comparison to what the average person spends making shit for only fans. But like my long term vision with Plug Talk or our long term vision I think is like this is like the centerpiece of the content

is like that we do a weekly porn podcast where either we fuck the girls or sometimes we have male talent on deck who has sex with them. But ultimately I think, that you know we want to build a porn business you know like a media company and I don't know if it's going to look more like porn hub down the down the road or maybe it'll look more like one of like browser sites or like a vixen or you know just like an actual site yeah like I just feel

like we have a lot of cool ideas about um adult content that we want to bring to the table and like us just doing this podcast is not the end of it you know we've talked about like we have other girls that uh basically are managed by us that we've talked about like creating another podcast under that umbrella where like you know maybe they could like we could have the girls interviewing male porn stars and like fuck them after feel free to steal that idea if there's anybody listening or like you know we have like a bunch of different stuff we're going to create with it and i mean it's it's just like a cool feeling in general because i mean like the plug talk thing like i mean i could just not even do the no jumper thing at this point like we could just do the plug talk thing it would be

totally fine or like you know so for me it's more about like being creative and like coming up with like a cool ass business with the plug talk thing just because I saw so that's so much room for growth in the poor that's what that's why I'm I'm saying this and I because I just looked at for like the last the last few days and I was because I was talking to you about doing this podcast for like a little bit and I was looking at all your stuff recently and I was like oh shit this is like really cool to what you're doing like how you're doing it and like I said the progression of it is like you're essentially pioneering this like new age kind of porn industry yeah that's what it looks like it makes sense because when I think about it people pay for podcasts like a lot

Like, you know, most, most, mostly for the most part, my, how many times can I say most? For the most part, people don't pay for podcasts, but there's tons of podcasts that are charging their fans five or ten bucks a month for like additional content. And then obviously people pay for porn all the time. Only fans as huge as all these porn sites. So it's like if we could combine the two and we know that people are down to pay for both of these. Yeah.

Wouldn't people probably be even more inclined to pay for something that combines them? I was more of a skeptic on him because he's just started way more businesses than me. So in the beginning, I was kind of like, I don't know, like maybe people think this is kind of weird or like, I didn't think it was going to be as successful as it is. And it's very, very successful. I see it. I see it. I'm glad that he pushed me into it. Because I was also, I was like pregnant back then. So I don't know, this kind of weird thing to be starting right now. Yeah. But it worked out. So creatively, have you always been the more driving force behind it or she also really good with ideas or plug talk? I mean, the idea was very much like equal. It was just both of us kind of talking about it for months and months and months. And then. I feel like she's more, you know, she brings a lot to it in the sense that she just like understands the porn world very, very well. Like she knows what it's like to be a girl on set. She knows or knew more of like the little details that we had to cover. And like, you know, we now have an employee who kind of like covers like a ton of the bullshit in terms of booking and making sure everything's all right on set. Like I obviously have more experience in terms of doing the actual interviews.

So I kind of like take a lead on that. Although I feel like we're trying to always like balance it out more. So it's kind of like 50-50 between me and her. He's like more of the consumer's perspective, right? Because he's a dude. So I feel like this is a good balance to have because if I was just going to interview the girl for Plug Talk, it would probably not be that sexy of a conversation. It's because I want to know more about like the girl behind the sex.

And he's trying to get the conversation to be more like in a place where you could jerk off to it. So it's kind of good to have that balance. So like I feel like he kind of takes the lead on the podcast part. And then I kind of take a little more of a lead on the sex part. I'm literally sitting there with a boner doing the interview. at the time so it's like I don't know because you know what's coming

yeah like and it's just me getting heated more and more heated yeah just telling like sexy dirty yes stories and so and then you watch us take photos you watch us fuck like it's such it's such an interesting thing like it's so and it's so new it's so different I love it I think it's cool as fuck man

I mean I look forward to it every week when I look at my my day and my calendar and I'm like oh I gotta shoot two plug talks on Wednesday it's like I'm walking around a little hop in my step like Hey. We got two on Friday. Getting some pussy today.

A lot of people like, porn gets a weird stigma and you see people like Billy Irish coming out and like just giving the most trash take I ever seen about porn and being like they all have the same vaginas. And I'm like, bitch, I watched a million times more porn than you. And I don't know what the fuck you're talking about because these vaginas are like snowflakes. There's a million different times I've seen every different brand out there. But I can kind of see how that happens for her because I mean people, I have a, I'm just going to say, I have a fucking meaty ass vagina with long labia.

and like people will constantly be telling me like your shit's loose but like I don't think they've seen enough vaginas because there are just vaginas with long labia how you tell something's loose just by looking at it you can't and that's what people don't understand the amount of external labia that you have is nothing to do with the actual tightness yeah yeah the inside like the only way your vagina gets loose is when you have a fucking baby you know it's like when you've been getting fucked by gigantic dicks your entire life I feel like that might have a factor as well maybe but like you can't tell from the outside so like you can't tell from the outside so like people just really have they're just they don't understand the female anatomy well enough yeah

you know so i can see that when you read these anonymous comments a lot of times it's like a 16 year old kid who's like thinking about pussy for the first time and he's got something to say yeah okay ready to fucking bust any of his hate comment he's like ugh i mean i've just seen it so much that i'm like wow people just really don't know they just don't know these things but a lot of people like get their ideas about porn from girls who were like you know low level porn stars in like 2008 and they like are they have a chip on their shoulder because they feel like the porn industry's fucked up I mean every girl that I know who's in the porn world is the master of their own future they get to decide what the fuck they want to do a lot of the biggest porn

girls unfortunately for the porn industry as a whole are right now like uh I make six figures a month off only fans what the fuck would I go and like do gang bangs every other day for you like when I don't have to and you're not paying me enough to like even make me want to do this shit so like I feel like if anything, porn is more straight up these days than it ever was before. Because these girls have so much power, whereas they had none for forever. But this is the thing. Yeah, they own it now. Like this is because of OnlyFans, it changed the entire game.

I mean, with everything, like, you know, how you could just voice yourself on social media. The companies are very afraid. They have very extensive, not sexy lists of like what you do and don't want to do. Like so much thought is going into it before the actual scene happens. And, you know, we always have a conversation beforehand. We're like, what do you not like? what do you like you know just let us know we always have that conversation beforehand they always say don't put a finger in my ass i always say that even though i don't think anyone would do it because it's

like in porn if you're going to do anal you should discuss beforehand because especially you don't want any gross stuff showing on camera you know right right right so it's like really really obvious that i'm not going to put a finger in your ass unless we discussed that before but they always said that there was just like i don't care what you do to me just don't slap my clit and i was like whoa Slap her clit She was like She was like someone did this to me once And I didn't like it

I was like what the fuck Who did that? But you do like Even without like The no list or whatever It's like Sometimes we'll do a scene with a girl And her giving me head

Is like my dick Going into her mouth And that's it Like she ain't trying to fuck her makeup up Maybe she's gonna redo her lipstick Sometimes we do a scene with a girl Where you know She's gonna stick your dick for five seconds

And then she's gonna pull it out of her mouth spit on it and just like straight scribble destroyer you know some girls go crazy and like but it's funny because some of the girls that are giving more like normal blow jobs if I were to like pull my dick out and be like like they would probably not be that stoked on it even though these are both blow jobs you know right right right like technically I wouldn't really be doing anything that they didn't they didn't tell me not to scribble my dick all over their face but that's like a weird thing because there are to read the room there's such levels to that shit you know I mean that's an energy that's like you know like okay she want this or not you have to be in tune with that and you

have to like as a dude you have to like have enough experience that you know what's going on where the line is yeah there's a person wanted or not you know especially when they're new kind of want to do only pants I want to do this shit yeah you've never done any you never filmed yourself having sex ever I mean I feel myself getting ahead a few times I feel like you should do it. Dude, I want to do it so bad. I think about it often. You got to like do a practice run though.

Like you got to have someone, see if you can actually work while someone's filming it. Or would you all only do POV? I think I could do it. You think you could do it? I don't know. I mean, I have an idea that I think I could do it. I mean, I could do POV for sure. I thought for sure filming a new porn scene every week would be the motivation that I needed to get in shape.

And here we are. Yeah, that's funny. Do you like not like working out or what? No, I do like it. I just like, I really need to like rearrange my life to be more about exercise and eating healthy because I've just like gotten into like a really bad habit of just not putting in the work that I need to. But especially for me, honestly, it's like when I have meal prep coming consistently,

I just eat it because I feel guilty about wasting that like 20 bucks a day, even though realistically I probably shouldn't give a shit. But, you know, if it's there and the first. fridge. I'm going to eat it. Yeah. And then like my meal prep expired a couple months ago and I'm just being lazy, but I'm about to get back on it. We just ordered something the other day. Yeah. I can send you guys some stuff too if you want. Yeah, I'll probably need some recommendations. I feel like there's no good meal prep companies in L.A. Or I get, or I get sick of all of them. I think I just become sick of all the. Yeah, I got the, I'm a partner in, yeah,

so we could just send you for free probably. Oh, I would like to check it out. But I, but it's almost like based on what you just said, sending it to you for free wouldn't be a good idea because then you'd be like, it's free. No, I just like in my head, I'm a cheap skate where I like can't waste shit. Yeah. Like if I have it, I just have to. It's also fucked up. Just throwing away food.

If I have some shitty weed, it's like, I have to smoke the shitty weed before I can get to the good weed. Oh my God. I have to finish it. Yeah, you have like one nug left. You're like, I got to like, it's been sitting there for a year. I got to like take it out. Or I'll mix it with the good weed.

Like, okay, at least then, you know, and when I think about it sometimes in my head, I'm like, well, that's like, you know, like 40 cents worth of weed right there. Like, you probably shouldn't care about that. Oh, I do. No, I mean, it's where you come from. I have a question about you and working out because you bounced back and seemed quick like from having a kid

It didn't feel like it But thank you It didn't feel like I mean in the beginning It was like no I could eat cake And I could eat super strict keto I would stay the same fucking weight

And I think it's like People say that when you breastfeed The weight just falls off But I don't think that's actually true Because there's a lot of people Who hold on to weight Because your body's kind of thinking like What if you starve?

What if you have no food? Like we need the fat stores To create milk for the baby So in the beginning, the first like six months, no matter how much effort I put, I, I weighed the same. And, uh, I think it took like a good year for me to finally like really go back into my shape. Great. Did you, did you, did you struggle like knowing like, okay, I got to get back to be able to do this and totally. Oh my God. Yeah. And I still sometimes I'm like, oh, because my body doesn't look exactly the same as it used to look obviously, but like only I can see those little things. You know, my skin's a little looser in my stomach and things like that. But, um, yeah, I was definitely. a struggle because that's like another identity thing where it's like my my body is my career and right now I don't have my body so you know not even that but she couldn't really control her body

you know because like she has the baby and then she's breastfeeding and she's like I saw it where she would have a week where she'd be doing cardio fucking seven times a week and eating super healthy and like lifting weights or whatever and then not lose any weight and then the next week she'd be like eating cake and eating whatever the fuck she felt like and she's still her weight wouldn't change like it would weird like it's a hormone and you're not sleeping either so like the first seven months I never slept for more than a two hour stretch I was up every fucking and that will do so much to your mental health and then trying to work out when you're in that sort of shape you know and then I'd go to workout and I'd be like watching the monitor like a hawk and then right away

she'd wake up so it's like you it's really really hard to work out and eat consistently well consistently when you're fucking tired you're not sleeping you know you got me afraid of having a kid you're not going to be the one waking up in the middle of night with the bottle i fucking hope not depending on who you got but he never did that it was me but i mean i had i was breastfeeding so it was kind of like i had to but um i hear from a lot of dads who it seemed like they were waking up in the middle of the night a lot more than i did because oh absolutely yeah and damn you had it good he has it's so good i just don't wake up like i don't know like she'll tell me in the morning eight in the morning she'll be like i woke up this many times

and the kid was doing this and i'm like really i was just sleeping i didn't know anything but she's really nice she don't want to wake me up you know damn you're You're fucking. But you know what? I would look at him in the middle of the night. Like I fucking hate you. You fucking asshole. Why did you get me pregnant?

I didn't know. I didn't know. Isn't that nice? No, you're really sweet for that. Wow. I want to smother him with his pillow. I would just be so angry.

This is so funny though. I just be so envious that he just got to sleep. But it's not like I could really do anything because all she's doing when she's staying up is breastfeeding. And even like this morning he went and got Parker out of her bed when she was crying. As soon as she said him. it's like mama where's mama mom so it's like he can't even really fucking help me because she skeptical when she sees me but she's still happy that somebody's taking out of her crib but then like once we get into the room and she's looking at your side of the bed and you're not there

she starts freaking the fuck out god forbid i had to go peeve it hears you peeing in the other room she starts freaking the fuck out but either way like oh she loves you i honestly have no idea of how i could possibly like if she wasn't there i don't know like i would probably have to take her to the hospital she was going to cry so hard like she was She would have been so upset if you were there. I don't know what I would have done. It's crazy, yeah. I mean, I go to the bathroom and she just follows me everywhere.

She gets so mad. She's so attached for a mom. So. You love it, though. I mean, I love it, of course. I love being the thing that she needs, you know, and like, I'm worried about her right now. I'm like, what's going on? What is she doing right now?

Is it people watching her? She's hopefully taking a nap. Her assistant is watching her for a while, yeah. Yeah, I had to get my assistant to come over for like 20 minutes. We needed someone to get over here. but um you know she has her days where she's like i need mama constantly and then she has her days where she doesn't want anything to do with me and so i even though i get annoyed on the days where she like won't leave me alone i know that at some point she's been like bye i'm going

into preschool i don't care about you i'm happy to be here and play on the playground and so i just really have to cherish even the sometimes annoying moments i love this i love how in my in my mind this podcast turned from like everything we were talking to me talking about wanting the kid I think you should totally do only fans. I think you should totally have a baby. I'm on board with all this. Oh my God. This is like I'm just asking my own selfish questions right now because I'm like I want to find out more.

I love when I do that on my podcast where I'll have somebody on and like they'll be like a successful businessman doing like something. And I only ask them about business the whole time and don't even give a shit about their art or whatever. And the audience is like you literally just did this interview because you wanted to like find out how it's business work. It's a consulting session for you. Oh my God. But I don't even know that I'm doing it because that's just I'm just interested. Well, that's, I mean, that's how I tend to do any of the podcast. Like, I just, these are the questions I would ask, period, right?

We kind of have stuff on the board, but I don't even, some of this stuff I didn't go over. I guess it's like, we should be asking you about. Yeah, like, so what's stuff on the board? She'll get mad at me sometimes because, like, I don't even look at it. But it's because I'm genuinely just asking questions that I want to know about you guys. From my perspective, it's good to have that shit as a backup, but then I usually won't really dig into it unless I have to. Which is, what does this young boy be?

what the fuck oh actually i do want to release the song i was looking at that note like bradley knows what oblock is yeah yeah yeah um i do want to ask you about the uh did you see the you see the you see the easy the easy thing we did did you like it yes yeah you know i found so interesting about that guy is like he's always been kind of like a weird kind of dude oh yeah and his relationship with his mom was like the craziest thing to me yeah like that that's like her passing was so sad watching that. Brutal. Yeah.

And he's just, he was always just like a quirky, weird fucking dude, but obviously he sees his success. But I guess my, I'm the question I want to pose to you about this whole thing is like, you see all the stuff that's going on now with like the Kardashians and all the stuff. Like how real do you think all that stuff really is? Because I know that they know that like the Kardashians became a thing because of drama,

because of issue, because of problems. It feels pretty real to me mostly because they're just ignoring Kanye, you know, like they're not like leaning into it because it would be so easy for chris jenner or or whoever came to like go on twitter and just say like my husband my ex-husband is tormenting me and my family they're doing some of that they're just not really like doing what i would expect them to do if they were really trying to play the game i feel like they actually are being tormented and harassed by a crazy person named Kanye west and uh i honestly feel really bad for him i get called like a simp

by my audience and shit because they feel like i'm supposed to just side with Kanye but i mean To me, it's pretty transparent that he's behaving like a fucking child. And of course, he's going to be embarrassed with all this bullshit down the road. I mean, like, to me, what's really embarrassing about it is that, like, you watch that documentary, you see his mother, you realize what an incredible person she was. And then you see him putting out an album named after her while acting like a fucking bozo and blatantly, like, just like not respecting Kim's personhood, you know? like he's dating all these new women and then meanwhile her having a boyfriend which she's a million

times less public than him with her new boyfriend right and like you know apparently kanya's allowed to date but she's almost more public about her new boyfriend because of him yeah he's making it a thing everyone knows they're dating it's a disgrace to his mother's legacy the way he's been acting yeah it's fun and i just feel for his kids i mean you know like his oldest daughter is old enough to be aware of a lot of these things maybe yeah maybe she's not on social media like that but you know it's like he has to answer to her and if you want to look at it from a purely pragmatic standpoint like purely strategic you know if me and her break up and i want to have a relationship with my kid there's a certain way that i just have to act if i want her to continue to allow me to

have that relationship with my kid you know and like the way he's been acting is like if you're a judge and she comes in and she wants and kim wants a restraining order she doesn't want the kids to see the dad or whatever i mean if i'm kim i'm having my lawyer say he put out a video with millions of views in which he threatens to kick my new boyfriend's ass and then he put out a video where he buries him head you know like like all that shit this looks terrible you're you're gonna ruin your chance of having a relationship with your kids because you can't help but act like an asshole publicly i mean i just feel like he kind of has always had this mentality that like rules don't really apply to him you kind of see like a little bit

of it in the beginning of the documentary it was still like a little bit humble but he's kind of always had the seed there and it's like now he's just full blown he can do whatever he wants And it doesn't matter. Yeah, it's interesting because, I mean, it's like, it's like a part. It's almost like a part of his genius is like to just, yeah, to kind of do it and then guess say sorry later, it seems like, but does he? Does he say sorry? I mean, in a sense, he kind of does.

He just put out a big ass statement about how like basically him burying Pete Davidson in the video is not bad, not a big deal. Is this art? Totally fine. Yeah. Like, you guys are all wrong. I'm fine. No, that's crazy though.

Do you think he knows that he's doing it? And he's, because like, at the same time, like, when I see it, I'm like, okay, he's got an album coming and he's doing this now like is he doing the whole Kardashian thing himself yeah I think he's really just living his truth that he's like straight up he's a child and he just can't accept that you know your girl broke up with you and that's just dating somebody new

like as an adult like as a guy we've all been through that I've been through that where I had a girl break my fucking heart and tell me she didn't want to be with me and guess what I did I was depressed for a week or two and then I got over it and I swallowed my fucking pride and I went to the bar and I got drunk and I got some new pussy and I got over it.

Yeah. But Kanye is just out here like crying and pleading for us to understand. Hold on. Let's talk about the girlfriend like looks. It's like it looks like Kim. Everyone on Instagram looks like Kim. It's a weird thing. It was a weird.

Yeah, they do look very similar. Because there's one picture that I saw. I was like, what the fuck is going on here? Especially when someone wears glasses and then it's got big lips, you're like, okay. Like is that Kim Kardashian? It's an interesting thing. I just seen it. I just think it's interesting.

I have a question too now to add to that. Do you think obviously, I mean, with this, him like whining about it, do you think he's like an unfit parent? because in regular life, like a parent that does things like this would be a unstable parent where they would not have custody of their child. Yeah. If he didn't have millions of followers, this would still be viewed as abusive.

It's actually just because he's such like a charming entertainer that people don't fully call it what it is. Well, because he has fans. So they're going to defend him too. So that's why they're going to call you a Sam. But the judge isn't going to be your fan. I do feel like the way he's acting makes him an unfit parent because you don't know if he's going to be going around the kids

and saying those types of things to them. I'm like, don't talk to Pete or whatever it is. You know, just like, ski, just getting involved. So, yeah, it doesn't look good. I don't want to call him an unfit parent, but it does seem pretty blatant. You know, I'm not like there to see his parenting, but everything he's doing around the parenting publicly, like, even just taking it to social media at all. Yeah, yeah. That's the thing.

That's one thing. But that's why I'm like, is it because he's doing the albums, really stuff? He's dropping the, I mean, he's got. I don't think he's doing it for promo. I think he's doing it for ego. But like me and her out of that conversation very early on. Which is like, no matter where this relationship goes, I'm just not going to use you for content. I'm not going to use our relationship as like a thing.

Like if it didn't work out publicly. Yeah. So many fights over the years. You've never once seen us like make a video about it, talk about it publicly on the vlog. It's always been handled like behind closed doors. And you know, there's been times where he said controversial things on the podcast and girls will DM me like, what do you think about this? Why aren't you talking about it?

Why don't you call Adam out, yada yada? And it's like, I'm really dating him in real life. Like if I have a, if there's a conversation I have to have with him, I talk to him in real life. And there have been conversations what we've had where it was like kind of like me. I didn't really like what you said on the podcast, like it really reflects bad on me. And we never have had those conversations. Yeah. And just I've always tried to keep my relationships off the end.

Like straight up they've always, they always have been because I was always been afraid of like not obviously, you know, the level of this. It wouldn't be happening. But just in general, the, you know, everyone always feels like, I don't know when you're a creator, you're on the internet. They just, they want your opinion on something. Like even like talking about certain political. stuff to be like talk about this i'm like i don't know if i really want to talk about like i don't know enough about it yeah and i think about that like how for me like i always just live my life out in public there was always almost nothing that was happening in my life that i didn't talk about online you know

yeah and sometimes when i think about what it would be like to be single i'm just like oh my god if i was single i would date people and i wouldn't tell anyone like i would just i would be like a thing that didn't exist on the internet you know like i could just have like a a relationship and not tell anyone and that's just like it's so foreign to me because i've never really like been like that like always pretty much just like aired my shit out uh so you know with me and her at least we like keep anything that's messy off the internet yeah it's good it's good you can come to that conclusion i feel like it is hard to have a public relationship and have it work well but for some reason for us it has worked because it could have gone bad it could have been nasty i think it's

the three sums but the three steps i think that's why it's working that's the solution it's definitely like therapy it's also the openness you guys it's like it's there's everything's there but it's like people I don't want people to go out there and think like oh if me and my girl have three sons our relationship will be good because the truth is like you have to have a solid relationship in order to have three sums and have them work out well if your relationship is in a bad place and you try to go have a threesome your relationship is not going to get better yeah or like I had a thing that happened in Vegas the other day where I was coming out of the hotel and this girl stops me and she's fucking some porn star looking girl with these huge fake

boobs and she's all like hugging me and being like I know this person you know and la rah rah I want to take a photo with me and then I realized that all my friends are watching me and that before I came out there they had all been staring at her and talking about how she was or whatever and then they see me and I take the selfie with her real quick and then I just walk away and that's it and they're all like like you know I realize like as I look over them like oh they think it's so cool that this girl like wanted to you know like and I'm just thinking my head like my life has changed a lot that But, like, I didn't even think about fucking with that girl at all because, like, you know, why, like, I mean, I get plenty of fucking pussy on camera.

It just doesn't really feel like this crazy thing worth risking it all for. But, like, you see that with, like, even these rich CEO dudes, the richest dudes in the world, like, fucking billionaires are like, they still can't keep their dick in their pants. Like, it's kind of amazing. It's funny because he sent me that picture that the girl took with him. He's like, this girl posted a photo on the other story and it looks like I'm cheating on you. And he showed it to me. I was like, it's fine. Because one of my friends said that right away, they're like the, like, look at her story.

like the way that she posted that photo probably looks like you're like kicking it with her like that and so then I told Lena and Lenna she's like hanging out with Adam in Vegas like she kind of like laughed at me I was like I was like it doesn't look like you're cheating like I've seen girls asking for photos a million times over the years you know and you know cute girls like I'm not I know what it is it's not like and that's a thing is like I feel like it's works because I understand that kind of stuff is like he is an audience it's mostly male but obviously he has fans and what's like the things you guys argue the most about You think you have the biggest issue?

Or have you had like a big fight? I can't remember the last time we fought, but probably for me, it's just like our relationship now, especially with the kid is like we're in work mode and we're in parent mode. And I feel like our romantic relationship probably gets cast aside a lot. And like I feel like it's the kind of thing where you almost have to like really work it into your schedule. Because if you don't, it's just not going to happen. By the time that your energy is spent during the day, like you're not going to be thinking about like how can I romance each other? again especially when you've been together almost six years are you are you like a quality time type like

like like love language person like yes yes for me like that's fucking tough it's not it's not like about gift it's more like that the kind of time that we're spending together for sure go go somewhere sweet like doing something like totally without our phones maybe a hike maybe honestly even playing fucking scrabble or like something stupid like that like honestly one thing that we do together recently that is kind of romantic to me is that we both play this new york times game called spelling me separately and then we compete over it like at night we like compare scores and like that is our love language that's dope she fucks me up and i feel like that's what keeps us going is the fact that i would never have thought that she would be better at this than me no way

more words than me but i keep being you i used to be like really into playing scrabble and like i'm just like interested in like words and my in my head i've always been like unscrambling words like when i look at a word i kind of like start thinking about what i could rearrange those letters to spell which is just this weird thing that exists in my brain and then she's just fucking me up every day and I'm like I thought I was just gonna be so good at this I thought you were too because you always beat me at Scrabble but I'm beginning with like strategy

like if you understood the strategy type shit in Scrabble as good as me then apparently you'd really be fucking me up yeah so crazy well I appreciate you guys coming on I know what time is it oh no we gotta do we gotta do two more audience questions we haven't done any audience questions by the way oh one of them was your questions so we need to do

three audience questions so at the end every podcast we just by the way if you guys want to ask your questions ask raw talk at gmail.com you guys get your question answered by me and the guests or it's just me whoever's here um but yeah they just just give us some questions you have them lined up over there yeah okay cool so this one says she's on it as a 34 year old woman what is your advice for someone in around my age that is looking for a real relationship in the world where hookup culture is now prominent i've tried dating apps no luck i don't drink or go to bars or anything like that. So it hasn't been easy.

What is your advice? This is a way, hold on. I have a question. This is a 34-year-old woman who watches my podcast. That has to be the smallest demographic of watchers or viewers of this podcast is 34-year-old women. My first instinct is to say to like join some sort of a group or club of some sort where you will meet like-minded people. Obviously, maybe don't join like a knitting group because you're probably not going to find that many men in that group if that's what you're if you're interested in men. And so, um, but yeah, I mean, I just feel like the gym is a good place to meet people.

Yeah, I think it's a great place. And that's what she's into, like, whatever you're interested in it, because you want to meet someone who has shared something in common with you. Yes. And if you don't drink, then the bar is not the place for you. This is exactly how I'd answer. So you got to find something that you like to do. And then, you know, hopefully it's a thing that men will like to do as well.

You got to find some sort of common ground there. Again, like she said, if you're into men, right? So you need to spend time and like, be in those situations. Obviously, you find someone who's like-minded, then you can build a, you know, a closer bond with them. What are the kind of mates that you want to seek out and then where do they tend to congregate? Like I remember there's been a couple times in my life where I've gone to like a yoga class and I realize like, oh, oh, yeah. If I went to yoga classes, I'm going to meet a lot of like girls who are, you know, at least somewhat chill, you know, cool. Healthy.

Healthy. Like, yeah. Like, if I was just looking for. Yeah. And, but like in reality, what did I like actually spend? Yoga pants and flexes and bars and strip clubs and fucking meeting porn stars on Twitter But if I was really like if I was single today and I was really trying to think of like How do I meet somebody that's gonna like you know I would just be thinking like like there's

Been times in my life where I went to like a bands show and like not like a punk hardcore metal thing But like you know a cool like indie rock punk whatever type vibes and and realize like oh There's a lot of like cool seeming girls who are like at this show like if I really wanted to like I would Stop going to fucking trap rap shows and I would be going to this fucking Bell and Sebastian show because these girls seem like pretty cool. But I mean, you know, that's why I suggest to her. I'm assuming she's like kind of interested in exercising because of you. I was just like put myself in those environments more. But also like, hey, I feel for you. Also, I would just hate to meet a guy at the gym. But why? Why? Why? Because men who talk to girls at the gym are just purving on them. I was no. Don't say that. I used to go to a power lifting gym. No. I used to go to a power lifting gym and it was. always like the guy would try to get on the stair master next to me and be like oh wow you're like really good at the stairmaster and i'm just like go away i hate you i never had it in me to holler at a girl at the gym because i always felt like the girls had their their defenses up so much because guys are just come around trying to show you how to use a fucking machine that you already know

how to use okay well that's not the way to do it but i'm in the gym i'm gonna train them how to do it then i'm sweating like a fucking pig i'm sweat i look the worst in the gym that i'm gonna look at any time all week that doesn't make me want to hit on a girl you know And I'm not going to go get nice, go get fresh, put some deities on the fucking pull up to the gym. Yeah. But I guess it's like, I guess to the guys being like, fuck, what have I got to help girls in the gym? It's all about the approach. Like if you see the girl, this is the rule of thumb that I would have figured out over the years that you see the girl consistently, let's say over the next few weeks and, you know, she works at this time.

That's true. You get enough interaction, like, get enough eye contact. If every time you look at her, she's like avoiding you, maybe that's not the one to go after. But if two weeks go by and every time you see her, she's like. opening that eye contact, then maybe approach at some point in between. Yeah, I mean, my trainer is marrying a guy. She engages getting married to a guy that she met at the gym. So I mean, you can find love there.

But for me, I haven't had good experience. Think about how much, like when he's in the gym, he's a natural. He's like the fucking biggest dude in the gym half the time. He's like, you know, that he feels like in his element there. For me when I'm in the gym, it's like, no, I'm working at getting to a place that I'm clearly not that close to, you know? Yeah. Like if I were to meet a girl at a rap show.

So it's like, this is my element. I'm probably going to be like the most comfortable in that element. And so that's what we're saying to the question here. Anately is like get in a place like where you can kind of be in your element and find other people. Like if you have that in the same area. Also, she might need to lower standards. I mean, yeah, I don't have no idea. I will kind of assume realistically you should probably just do some fucking loser.

You think so? That's terrible advice. But I have to pee. So let's do the next question. Yeah, yeah. So the next question says, do people in your guys's industry genuinely enjoy their job or do they do it for different reasons for example money or they're just good at it what are your thoughts um yeah i mean i feel like we're and we are introduced to a specific type of girl

in the industry because we know you know all the girls who are top 50 on porn hub so all those girls had to be enjoying it to a certain degree to get to where they are because when you're enjoying your job you're really good at your job and it just feeds each other you know so it's like I feel kind of biased in answering that question but I do believe when you ask most girls why they got in

a lot of times it was just because they were horny and they thought it was a fun idea and because the money obviously looked a lot better than a lot of things looked to them at the time

because you know what is what is minimum wage like 15 bucks an hour but most I'm 17 now yeah I mean most of the girls I find that do well in porn

it's very rarely like the girl who's just hot but then not sex at all because usually they suck on camera like the vast majority of the girls that we shoot plug talk with are like very sexual they're good at sex they enjoy sex they love the attention they love being on set that's just they're naturals because you probably wouldn't really be into it if you weren't a natural because the reality is it's like if you're just a hot chick and you just want to post like you know pitches with your shirt off you could probably make a lot of fucking money

even just doing that you know but like if you want to do real porn you don't have to do that and it's not for everybody and you're probably not going to last unless you're pretty comfortable doing that. So I feel like the girls that we deal with, like that's why I'm always a little surprised when I hear girls who have their like horror stories from the porn world because the girls that we deal with almost never have those kind of stories. Yeah. I think in general, too, speaking, like not so much porn directed industry, but just in general, anyone who's like successful at making content, I think to get to a certain level, if you guys are watching their content, enough people, they're getting enough views, they have enough fault, whatever, you're

gauging this like level of success. by to get to that point like they have to genuinely enjoy it like we're not even like pouring aside just like making content in general whatever you're making the content towards like there does have to be some genuine enjoyment there obviously you know that you have to pay bills there's things you got to take care of on the back end you got to make sure it's good and that's always a part of it and can be a struggle more so for I think the people in the beginning phases of it trying to find the balance but I think if someone's if you're looking at someone oh do they really enjoy this like you I will gauge it off of like what level do you

think they're at and then if they're like the highest level of it then it's likely that there's probably a big part of them that enjoys it otherwise like you wouldn't get to that point you know exactly because if let's say if we're talking porn for example you probably have a few scenes and be like I don't like fuck this I don't I'm just not going to do this because I don't feel good in it right and porn is the kind of thing where like you could at least imagine somebody getting into it even if they didn't like doing it because it's enough money whereas like with podcasting it's like nobody's nobody's really like accusing me of like oh you don't really like podcast and you're just doing it for money because it's like it's clearly like too difficult and

not enough money to attract people who don't want to do it yeah people have that in their head about porn and they they have a point because you know you could be some girl who like really doesn't want to do this doesn't feel natural doing it and you just kind of have to do it because you're making enough money that it's just you'd be stupid not to do it but that's a pretty small percentage of yeah yeah yeah so yeah so yeah dude i love podcast this is my fucking shit this is so fun to me man this is the same uh podcast that we did last time this this is a this is a I rebranded it so before it was called culture cast and you guys got it that's what I was thinking now it's called raw talk so yeah plug talk raw talk we go raw and plug talk

too it's lit so dope all right so this one is what is the best way to start building up confidence when it comes to posting and being more active on social media whether it's in the fitness world porn industry or just like putting yourself out there I guess you could say my my advice is work on shit and don't put it out like you should honestly like if you feel like you suck on camera like you should make you know make up make 50 videos for yourself before you ever make one that you put out you know like you should you should just be doing it because it's fun and because it's a hobby before you're even starting to be concerned with like people you know buying into what you're selling you know like I feel like if you're going to be a

YouTuber whose content actually goes somewhere or an influencer in general or whatever like you just you got to start you you have to be willing to do it with no reward absolutely because realistically it's going to take you a long time to get So the point we are actually reaping the rewards, never mind the point that some of us are at where we're making a lot of potential income from it or whatever, like that's what I would recommend to people. Like set the fucking camera up in your house,

talking to the camera, and then like look at it afterwards and try to judge yourself against other people who are in your world and say like, shit, like, am I close to the level that the people that I like watching are? Because I know like the other day, I saw a video from a guy who has like 20,000 subscribers and I thought he was really good on camera

camera and he lives in North Dakota and I said yo like I want to fly you out like here's my guy like I'm gonna fly you out like just to fuck with you like to have you come out and work on some content and stuff because I actually think he's dope and like yeah I mean that's just because he's put himself out there enough that he got my attention and I think he's good on camera like like you just have to be real with yourself and realistically like you're not going to be Tana Manjo or what the fuck necessarily she told me she got a million views her first YouTube video that's insane some people are just natural some people like the out like the people are just going to love you and it's just going to work

yeah not everybody's going to be like that i filmed my first youtube video like four times and i will never watch it again because i know it sucks and it's like i had to suck a lot until i got a lot better at talking on camera i still get nervous to go on a podcast but i know i'm a lot better than when i first started going on his podcast and stuff like that so it's like i feel like in the beginning you have to be okay with sucking and not letting all the feedback get to you because if you let that feedback get to you then you're just always going to be working for the feedback and That's not where you want to be. But the lucky part is if you're just a random person,

then you're probably not going to get any feedback for a while. So that's why I say just don't even put it out. Because, you know, if you put, if you make a video and then you feel like you can make another video and make that video better, make another video. Like there's no, there's nothing saying you've got to put the shit out. Yeah.

There's a few things here. I think there's two major things. I think the first thing is kind of along the lines you're talking about is people see the success that some of us have, obviously that a lot of like top creators will have. And they'll go, fuck, I don't have. this. I don't have that. Those people, number one, didn't get there overnight. You do have to start somewhere. And I think the bigger thing beyond that in like judging yourself based off of

someone else is like kind of going back to what you're talking about, just doing it to do it and see if you can get better. But at the same time, it's like, do you actually give a fuck about what you're doing or are you doing it just because you want some sort of outcome and you want the popular and you want the money? If you could find like a true purpose and why you're doing it and the like draw real lines to like that purpose then it doesn't really fucking matter so the two things are actually giving a fuck about what you're doing it and why you're doing it and then not giving a fuck about what anyone says or thinks about it because at any point even if you're what you're saying if I go okay I filmed six videos in my six video this is the one that

I'm actually like and I progress it to this point you're still going to post it on the internet and someone's going to go fuck you you suck and so understanding that like this is just the reality of the internet of the world and how people are just going to just talk shit because you're doing something maybe out of the ordinary that that person who's talking shit really wishes they could do and they're not doing, fuck that person and just do it because you want to do it. But that's the key. Do you really want to do it and why do you really want to do it? Those are the most important aspects of this, in my opinion. And I just think if you can draw those lines really fine for yourself, then it doesn't matter how many views or how much

like shit talk you get, whatever. You just decide, okay, this really matters to me and I'm just going to keep going and that's what it's really all about and if you fail you were meant to fail because this is all on you and if you if you can't manage to get a couple thousand people to watch your videos you know it's on you but there's nobody you can blame besides yourself which is the scary part about it yeah because if you fucking don't build an audience you failed and you can't blame it on anyone else and that that's like a really uncomfortable thing for a lot of people I think for sure but I think also too I think it's it's perseverance like if you failed like that I think if you if you really knew your reason why you're doing it it wasn't just to get views to be popular

to make money then like even if you fail the first time I think someone could just keep going and keep going and keep going and eventually get what they think they wanted it's just not in the time that they think they you know they need it you know what I'm saying because a lot of like we talk about Tanner or whoever and it's like some people just hit and that's just what it is like some kid gets on TikTok some pretty boy and he gets millions of followers comes to my mind right away I think like Vinnie Hackett this guy blew up So I think it's shit like that

No disrespect to this guy But it's just not everyone's gonna be that guy or that girl But it's like if you really care about what you have to say Or what you're doing Then just keep trying And then maybe it'll eventually hit But also I and there is comes to a point where it's like Maybe it just doesn't fucking work out

Because maybe your reason is not great enough And if your reason for doing it is to make money And get famous then your reason isn't that good And so when you fail Nobody's gonna give a fuck because realistically like I look up to people who make content and just keep going and it's like it doesn't have to like you know like if nobody watched my podcast I probably would have kept doing it like yeah probably like if I only if I right now was getting to 100,000 subscribers

you know I probably would have kept going because what the fuck else was I going to do you know I probably would have kept adapting it and working with it in my brain to figure out something that would be so I grinded the BMX shiver 10 years before no jumper yeah and then even when no jumper it took years and years before i like could say i was a millionaire off of it you know it's like i my dream was to make 10 grand off youtube in a month for years in 2012 i started to like really go hard on youtube yeah and i probably i didn't get there until like 2016 you know so it's like four years of work to get to that milestone and then i felt like i was just getting started yeah i mean but this is this is what people don't see right because most people will see this and they'll see

this with the success you have now and they don't realize that you you you get fucked along with the way like not not the good way we're talking about it but it's like you have to keep going like this actually matters to me like if you got to that point with all the stuff that you've done like clearly it fucking mattered to you and that's the only reason why you're actually here now so I just think if you're listening to this podcast like you have to really have a reason why the fuck you're doing it and if it's just to make money that's that's fine whatever but like if that's the only reason why you're doing it I think you have to be very selective with the type of content you're making, otherwise, like it won't resonate right with people.

If your goal is just to make money, then nobody's going to give a fuck when you fail. Because you weren't doing it for an honorable purpose in the first place. You know, your goal shouldn't be like, oh, I'm going to do this video that's going to get this amount of views to make money. Your goal should be, I'm going to make this video because I think this video doesn't exist right now. And I think that the world could use this video and I think there would be an audience for this video.

Yeah. Like it'd be funny or motivate them or make them feel good. There's a potential audience out here who could enjoy this. That matters. Exactly. That's a good reason to do something, you know, to entertain people. The money is like, the money comes along with, like, YouTube is, that's a slow trickle of money at first. So it's like, you know, if you can entertain people and actually have a good reason to do something, the money will follow.

Yeah, it's a fact. Okay. So this last question is, if you could work any other job, what job would it be? Oh, fuck. I would probably want to be. Mike. Look at her. I forgot.

I'm sorry. I love that's headphones on. He's good. I know, I have to wear the headphones to feel like I'm in the, in the zone. But I honestly would want to own just like a small little coffee shop on the coast somewhere. Yeah, you should do that then. I feel like you should. Maybe one day I will.

Maybe I'll retire and I'll move to the beach and open a little coffee shop. But it's not as easy as it sounds. I think anybody who lives their life sort of whoring themselves out for money on the internet or whatever all the time, whether like literally or not literally, you know, like just putting your personality on camera. like like I find myself drawn back to like playing online poker and shit just because that's how I was kind of making money when I was like 22 23 and it's such a simple way of life in a way like it's just you sit in front of the computer you play the game ideally it can ruin your life though too it can but I mean like I'm I'm pretty good at poker and I feel like I could probably be like a guy who makes six figures a year playing poker but you play poker now yeah

but actually I get paid six figures a year just to fucking play poker right now without even having to fucking win anything but but now you know that that just like it occurs to me because it's like I could do that I wouldn't have to talk to anybody I could stay in my fucking house I feel like I want the opposite of that

I feel like if I'm like 60 that might be my my life at some point if I like really decided to just sort of give up on my life I'll probably just be a full bone fucking gambling addict I think I would uh I mean I'm doing it I would own a gym like I just

obviously something you're not already doing Brad he would have four kids I have literally have no idea if it didn't revolve around something to do with the gym I'll be honest with you I've never even thought about it

because if you had like a sandwich shop why wouldn't you also have a squat rack in the corner you might as well combine these things I just know straight up like I've never ever thought about doing anything other than something involving in the gym

like obviously this is not the gym but I don't know I just, I don't know, I don't, maybe I don't have enough death. I don't know what the fuck's going on. But that says a lot about you doing the right thing because for me, no matter what else I was doing, I don't think I'd be able to stop doing podcasts. I think even if I really tried not to do podcasts, it would be like a couple weeks and I'd be like, there's one I just have to do.

Like, there's just people I want to talk to. There's just conversations I want to have and I might as well have them so that the world can see it. Yeah, this is becoming the thing for me like that the gym was when I, you know, much younger this is this thing is so I don't know she's different from me now I love it I enjoy it so much like I feel like every time I have a podcast I learn more I become better like great whatever I'm whatever I'm able to get for the audience I'm grateful to be able to get that but at the same time just even personally I just feel like you feel fulfilled yeah it's fucking amazing and I and thank you

guys for being here and doing this yeah thank you this was great fucking you guys showed up exactly fucking on time like two minutes before even it was amazing we should we were playing we gave ourselves an hour to get here for some reason and I'll be honest Because normally, like, people will text like, oh, where's it? What's the address again? Or like, oh, I'm this far away. And I remember my mind. I was like, let me see.

I'm not going to hit them up and see if they show up. No, no, no. They were literally here two minutes before. When your parents, you have to plan everything perfectly. And so like the earliest I could get someone over was 930. So I literally had to get a sitter from 9 to 930 because we were trying to leave right on time to get here. So, yeah, no, we don't play.

My calendar is so fucking precision at this point. The other day I had like a call to like record something set up with somebody. And he was like, 20 minutes late and then he hit me and I'm like I left like what the fuck are you talking about like my schedule like I don't I don't get to like hang out like I fucking I got thing after thing after yeah so thank you for coming I appreciate so obviously everyone here check them out obviously no jumper the the plug talk podcast you guys have only plug talk dot com yeah it's the best place if you want to go to see the only fans version but if you want to just get a taste you can

search it up on YouTube on TikTok on Instagram all that shit yeah okay anything else you want to talk about or end it with promo or whatever follow our kid on Instagram too yeah hell yeah it's amazing that you're gonna sell like fucking like little bibs and shit or something maybe maybe you don't follow because your baby fever is gonna get crazy i do i'm i'm gonna have a kid and the best part about doing porn is that then you don't have to like make fucking shitty vogs with your kid for money yeah we've done a little bit of that and it just it feels like I'm sacrificing way more of myself doing that. That's hilarious.

Yeah. That is such a funny. We have a family channel, but we just like don't even upload to it. I have too much fun being a dad that I'm like, am I really going to like set the fucking camera up to try to get footage of me hanging out with her? Fuck, man. That's really put me in a position right now because I know that when I have a kid,

it's probably going to be on the internet. I mean, you do want to film some stuff because you do want to have those memories with their kid. I mean, you know, Adam wishes he had more videos with his parents as a kid. Like they didn't have a video camera and stuff. So you obviously want to film a bunch of that stuff. Yeah. But when you have to do it and it's like your job, then it doesn't feel good.

Because kids are also, they're not the best people to work with on camera. Trying to get a photo of a kid, they're moving. They are the worst people. They're the worst. Trying to take a photo of the kid and the dog together. Oh, I'm over. It's over. I can't.

If you sent me like a good photo of the kid and the dog sitting there like smiling together, it would blow my mind. I wouldn't even be able to comprehend because it would be so hard to get them to sit still. It's like winning the lottery. Yeah. It doesn't happen. Well, that's it. I appreciate you guys so much.

Thank you so much. If you guys are watching this on YouTube, make sure you drop a comment, drop a like, subscribe to the fucking channel. If you're on iTunes, leave a review. Yeah,

all the love helps. Thank you guys so much. We're out of here. Fuck yeah. Bye-bye. You guys crushed that. I mean, obviously you guys.