RAWTALK - Agent’s 100+ LBS Weight Loss Journey, Future of AMP & Why Kai Cenat is the Mr. Beast of Streaming

Episode Date: November 12, 2024

On this weeks episode of RAW TALK, Brad sits down with Agent & discuss the highs and challenges of content creation, finding purpose, AMP’s evolution & much more! Sponsored by: Prize Picks Use code “BRADLEY” & Make your first $5 line up & get $50 whether you WIN OR LOSE! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/ivHR/BRAD Sponsored by: BetterHelpUse code "RAWTALK" at https://www.betterhelp.com/RAWTALK & get on your way to being your best self!

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I never got the answer, but would you rather fuck a bitch that looks like Bradley Martin or Davis? Damn, as a celibate, nigga, bro, that's a tough one to answer. If you were not celibate. I don't know. I try not to think about those things because then I had to like really, like, you know, you could joke about your friend's ass, but like, like, Once you answer that question, you had to at least visualize, like, what that would be like. Yeah, it's a fucked-up question.

Yeah, I cut my dick off. It's terrible. Bro, so you, so overall, do you like L.A.? Would you live here? I don't know if I'd live here. I think it's weird. Like, I grew up in Toronto. I always thought, like, I'd want to go back to Toronto, but have you seen it recently?

No, I haven't. I went there once, like, four years ago. Yeah, it's so different. And I don't know if you felt, where did you grow up? San Francisco. And, like, how long have you, has it been since you moved out? Oh, man. So I moved out when I was 18.

I went to Sacramento State, which is north of San Francisco, and then came back home. And then, like, around 1920, I moved down here. And I've lived down here ever since. So it's been a while. Yeah. And when you go back, it feels different. It's completely different. And so, like, the things you loved about it, it's like, you're trying to find him,

but, like, it's like remnants of the things you enjoyed about the place you grew up, still there. but it's not the same place. And you mean in the sense of just the way it looks or just like the energies, like the communities or the people who are... Both really, but like it's weird. Like, so I grew up like on the east side. I was born in Scarborough. It was a bad area.

My parents made the decision to move us out to Markham, which is more north. But when we moved there, it was a farmland. So even in the time where I first got to Markham to when I left, it went from a farmland to like a rich Chinese community. It was like fucking 70% Chinese, a whole bunch of rich. So like the value would, you're talking about in the not not like adjacent next to the city like just as you live there. Yeah, exactly. So like I used to when I would go from like my Saturday school back home, so I'd travel to Scarborough every weekend.

It went from like smelling manure and farmlands and like it was really that type of area to just huge suburbs, suburbia. Like everywhere you go more suburbs. And like I imagine for the people that grew up in Markham even 40 years ago, like it's, not just unrecognizable, it's a different planet. So they probably wouldn't want to go back there, even if it's a place they grew up. The country vibes sound nice. Yeah, it is. Like, I loki could see myself, like, in a farm one day and just, like, chilling.

It's funny. I do, too. How old are you? 28. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As you get older, it's a weird thing that happens. You're like, I could be around less people more often than not. And I love animals, so that's perfect for me.

I could fucking, you know, I could pick up cow shit and raise some chickens and stuff like that. Fuck it, man. bro it's i god i feel that so much how as you've gotten older to has your taste in music changed yo let this this month like i'm thinking i'm tired of rap bro i don't like listening to rap no more like i have my favorite artist but like i'm so tired of like music videos it's just big mansion big booty hoes money yeah a couple new cars that just drop and like the arc the like the formula's old i don't like it no more and i it hit me i told my chat And it's weird.

Like they agreed with me. I thought they were just going to call me old. But like, yeah, I've dead ass been like listening to other shit now. And I thought, honestly, I was like, is it just because I'm fucking getting older? But then I think that's a part of it where like you, maybe just the time you spent listening to it. You're like, yo, I'm tired of the same sort of shit. Yeah, that's probably what it is, realistically. But that's probably why like older people don't really listen to new shit.

They kind of just listen to the shit they grew up listening to. Yeah. Because like, yeah. But even still, even. Even still with that, I'm kind of like, damn, do I, I just got to, I guess I also got to point in my life where I'm like, do I want to like put all this negative sort of bullshit information into my body? And that's really what it is, bro, like nonstop, too.

And it's, I mean, the words you ingest, that the words you say, it's all, it's all affecting you to some degree, whether you're aware of it or not, it's a reality. So it's like, what am I doing? Yeah, I like, yeah, I've, like, every month, at one point during the month, I'll get exhausted to just listen to music and I'll go on a podcast binge. And like usually I'll pick podcast where I feel like I can learn shit from. But like just to get a little break from music, sometimes I just get tired of music, bro. Yeah. I've been listening to a lot of fucking books on tech. I sound so old right now. I don't give a fuck, I don't give a fuck. I'm listening to books

on fucking, you know, downloadable shit. I love that, man. Yeah, me too. Like I dead ass go to sleep just learning. But like I feel like I remember it better. And then it's weird. Like when I wake up, even though I wasn't awake during most of the podcast, like, I think I remember shit from when I was asleep while I was listening to. I swear this is a thing. It's like a real thing. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not a scientist on this shit. Yeah. I like to talk to people moving about it, but I swear this is a real thing. Yeah. Some sort of learning. But how do you always been into learning shit like that? Yeah, I love learning. I'm a huge learner. Like, even to this day, like I'll, I like knowing everything that's going on around me because it'll help inform my decisions too. But even, even dumb shit. Like, I know. way too much about stupid shit. Like, I could read the ingredient list of, like, an energy drink and start to, like, like, I don't know why, like, I care about weird stuff like that, but, or it could just be random skills, like, um, archery, like, I'm a decent archer.

Whoa. I just like learning, yeah, I like learning my things. And, like, now I'm in a car binge right now, so I'm learning how to drift. That's, like, my next thing I want to do. Like in, like, what, uh, JDM cars? It don't have to be JDM. It just has to be real-wheel drive and preferable manual. But, like, you could slide anything, really, if you want to.

And you have a Ferrari, but you didn't pull up in the Ferrari today. Yeah, I've pulled up in a Ford Edge. Yeah, why no Ferrari? All my cars are in Atlanta. And plus, I'm going to a car show. My friend has a car show in Atlanta. What day is it? Tomorrow.

Damn, it's Saturday. Yeah, it's literally tomorrow. So I'm going to pop out. It's my first time really popping out in the Ferrari. So I go there. Do you, this is kind of a weird question. Are you always happy streaming? Like, the only time I'm not happy streaming is when,

like an obnoxious amount of things go wrong on stream which happens because it's live so it's not like you could just edit stuff out or push things back or delay things like you're troubleshooting live so sometimes it can be frustrating but most of the time like 99% of the time I'm like you're really happy like I could I could be doing anything I could be fucking eating food but if I'm eating food on stream like the chat genuinely makes it a better experience they're so fucking funny because it's like there could be a hundred jokes rattled off about the same thing that just happened on stream and a guaranteed five of them at the bare minimum will make me laugh and yeah that'll make my day better well dude there's there's there's something i don't know

if it's a twitter thing that i've noticed because i don't i've i live streamed but i'm not as consistent i'd say as obviously you are um but twitter and just comments in general like some people have the best fucking jokes like you'll find the best jokes on the planet from comments yeah Which in this case, chatters, right? In the chat, bro, the chat. So it really just depends on the community build. I just feel like we went crazy in ours. So, like, it don't matter what the fuck we're doing.

Like, they find a way to make it fun and better. So, like, I could be doing something interesting, and it would make the interesting thing better. So it don't matter. I bring them along for everything. Like, I have a build series now where I'm also learning how to work on cars. Because, like, you know, previously I just sent them out to the shop and then do the shit for me. But, like, I really want to learn.

So, like, I'm trying to, so, I have an E36, that's my drift car, and it has like 300,000 miles, it's a beater. There's like 50 things wrong with it. And so like I'm recording. Fixing it out. Yeah, just me fixing it up. So like the AC doesn't work. How you fix that? You feel me? On stream? Yeah. Yeah. We're doing all on shit. So I have a mechanic that has E3, E36 is and he comes over and like he'll let me kind of struggle. But like if there's something I need help with, he'll be like, no, this, how you do it. So what are you learning this all from like YouTube? You're watching YouTube isn't trying to do it? My mechanic friend, Black, he's helping me out.

So, like, I think on the first episode, we did refer to YouTube, but there's some shit that, like, YouTube won't teach you. But how are you struggling if you don't know how to do something? Like, how are you learning how to do something that you don't know? So, like, for example, we ordered new seats, right? The seats that I bought the car with were, like, super, like, you had to be a really skinny negative fit inside them. So, like, I finally got some seats that fit me better, and, like, I'm taller than the guy

I bought it from so I can finally move the seat back. Issue is, all you got to do is put the brackets in to the car. simple enough but the fitments off so now you got to be like okay how to fuck do you fit all these you need special tools so that you can get the drill in a specific angle but even then it still didn't fit so we had to add holes onto the bracket so that it could fit properly and even then all four bolts couldn't fit so we just put in three and we prayed to god yeah so like you have to troubleshoot even if it seems like something as simple as like putting a seat inside of a car it can be difficult based on like the part you get and like no one part is the same as the other

there's almost always going to be fitment issues so stuff like that I'm downloading and learning but like I'm a good problem solver so like I like I love learning stuff like that had you always been that way yeah yes that's probably the thing I'm best at which I feel like is why a lot of people dump their problems on me is like I'm like friends like yeah but like I'm not good at listening to your problems and then like go that's like some people are good at listening to problems my brain is just like okay what's the solution so like I'm like in a mad hunt trying to figure out what I would do to solve the problem but sometimes people don't want to hear like the solution well because yeah they just gonna feel heard well the solution sometimes is make people feel good

everyone wants to feel good and everyone's trying to avoid feeling shitty which is interesting I think and I get I mean you kind of know something about that you you were super overweight before yeah yeah I'm still working on it but but you were like way more away it was bad yeah was 330 pounds at one point like couldn't run like just walking would make me out of breath like it was and I was at the time I was 23 and it was like you're 23 years and you can't run that's crazy that's nuts but it's like wow how did you get there um if you had this problem solving bring for so long it's like wouldn't you have saw that problem coming to be like yeah so some problem was like you could know the solution and it could

still be hard to do of course you know what I'm saying and so that was one of them for me I genuinely feel like no cap i think i have the biggest appetite of anyone i've ever met and like it feel like i'm wrestling every day to not like just fucking binge and i think people with like normal appetites and small appetites struggle to understand what having a crazy appetite is like and they feel like everyone's like probably how they are like you could put 10 000 calories in front me i'll eat it right in no cap an hour later if you brought me a five guys cheeseburger I would still have an extreme desire to eat that. Like, there's no satiation.

There's no period where I'm like, okay, that's enough. So, like, I really have to... What the fuck? Yeah, it's crazy. Like, I can keep going. It's nonstop. And, like, my chat knows that because they see, like, I eat really fast, like, almost like I'm speed eating, but I'm not.

That's just my normal pace. And, like, I don't get full. So... You know what would fix that? And you're not going to want to hear it. And, like, everyone's going to be like, no. But if you, if you, like, microdose... ozempic like semi i know it would be ideal not even a large amount like because not how people

take it to lose a lot of weight just a small amount because it sounds like it's the mental thing it is it's just the appetite thing but um really all i need is two strong weeks and i'm good like once i get two strong weeks of like consistent eating decent then i'm good i'm good on it but like the first two weeks is so so challenging for me where you at now like are you are you are you still like really trying to lose weight yeah i'm just so i've been lifting consistently for the past year And it's been a blast, honestly. Like, I finally figured out, like, what I like to do in the gym. So, like, that part I figured out.

I just need to eat more consistently. The travel has kind of been kicking my ass because I have a chef back in Atlanta. And, like, so I'll just eat whatever he cooks me. So it's easy when I'm back home. But when I'm traveling, you open up DoorDash. Oh, my God, bro. And you're cooked. You're cooked.

Like, there's 80 good options. Yeah. That's the shittiest thing, though. So, okay, let's take it back, though. You, you, how old were you when you were super overweight? So I fluctuated a lot growing up. I was at like, I was at like 2.30 most of my high school life. I was pretty overweight.

When I got into uni, I lost a lot of weight really fast. I, and it was at a necessity. Like I just didn't have the money to eat bad at the time. So I ate healthy. So I told this story like a few weeks ago. Well, most people say that's not the reality. Most people say it's easier to, if it's, it's less expensive to eat shitty. Not for me.

Okay, but I had a little bit of a cheat code. So the, so here's what I. I would do, I would just get like minute rice. I'd get a cheap can of tuna. And then my mom would cook beef for me back at home and freeze it. So she put in my freezer. So I would just combine that and put some ketchup on it. It was a nasty concoction, but I just ate that every day. It had good protein. Like it was one meal a day, 1,500 calories. And it cooked. And you know, you're on campus. You have to walk around so much. So I'm getting like 15,000 steps today. I'm hooping, playing basketball. Like, I'm very active. I'm eating good. And so,

it just started shredding off. I went from 230 to 160. And at 160, like, I look very malnourished. Yeah, 160. Like, what people would consider... You're not a small dude. Yeah. What people will consider, like, you know how people say,

oh, Zempik face? They would have definitely said that about me on the internet back then. But that really just happens when you lose weight fast. It doesn't matter how you do it. Of course. You feel me? So, like, so I realize, like, I don't really want to be 160, but at 160 is when I started having, like, a binge eating issue.

So, like, what would happen was I would have a run. rough day and then my solution would be it like food wasn't comfort food I treated it like a punishment so like I would be like punishing yourself yeah like I don't deserve to eat good and feel good today so I would dead ass punish myself by eating like a ton of food and so it would make me feel like shit and so it was like a bad cycle that eventually became a habit and then loki kind of fucking became an addiction and so I ballooned from there so But it was the idea that, like, you didn't deserve something? I don't get that.

It was more like, it was more like. Or you deserve to feel bad because you did something bad? You deserved to feel worse? Yeah, like, why would I deserve to feel good if I'm not doing good? You get what I'm saying? So, like, it could be as simple as, like, like, I did awful in an assignment that I really needed to do well on, you feel me? Or I let somebody I care about down.

Like, it could be whatever reason, but, like, it just started to, like, really cycle. So I would eat bad And then I would go hoop for like three hours Like you can't burn it off I ate like 8,000 calories You burn some off but not enough Yeah so it was a cycle of like Feel like shit

Eat food feel like even more shit Go hoop for three hours But it's so weird It's like if your mind is like You're making yourself feel worse Willingly knowingly And you kind of I don't know when you start to recognize that And then you're trying to do the cardio

To like counterbalance it It's like which one do you want I wasn't even doing the cardio to, like, burn the calories, I was just doing it because it was, like, therapy for me. Oh, so it all is a part of that escape. Yeah. So, like, so back then, basketball is my main thing. If any time I, but right after an exam release, I go hoot.

Like, their gyms were open 24-7, so I could hoot whenever. Like, and I remember those days, like, basketball was the only thing I really had to help me release. I didn't have too many friends on campus. Like, I felt like in high school, I was more of a popular guy. And then in university, like, I brought, like, six friends. That's it. Yeah.

And so, like, and most of them were just, like, classmates. Like, we would study together and shit like that. But I was afraid of getting dragged into a lot of the shit people get dragged into in uni, going to parties. Yeah. I know, I know niggas that I used to cheat off of in high school, in university, selling cocaine. Like, it was scary how quickly people I thought I knew changed into something else.

And that scared the shit out of me. So I didn't want any influence. I didn't go to not one party while I was in uni. I stayed really strict about everything because I knew why I was there. And so for me, I didn't want to veer off my path because I wanted to have some fun that night or for whatever reason. I saw people make the wrong friends and their lives changed for the worst. And that's a tough thing to rebound from.

Yeah. I mean, it's easy to fall into that kind of stuff. Like I don't think younger people recognize how actually it's like way, way harder if you're in the situation to say no to your group of friends than to just be out of the the situation entirely. Like I saw you mentioned on Hassan's pod about drinking that you don't drink at all. And that like, you know, people are like, either like you're a bitch or like, oh, that's so cute, like that kind of vibe. Yeah, it's a lot of weird reactions when I tell people that. And like, sometimes it makes them feel bad too. So like, and I don't want you to feel

bad. And sometimes people think that I do it at a superiority. It's like, I don't feel like, I don't feel like a better human. I just don't want to, you feel me? And some people like, they don't just take it as that. They like, give it. And why don't you want to? you don't want to feel worse? Well, the main reason was religious reasons. So, like, I'm Muslim, so I just don't drink off the strength of that. But also, even stuff that's not haram that can be addictive, I just avoid. So, like, it could be whatever.

But if I feel like I could potentially get hooked on it and I could barely control my addiction to lays ketchup chips, so or lays wavy or Popeye's chicken. So I know if you put an addictive substance in front of me, it's over. So I don't like taking risks. I feel like I take life kind of seriously in that sense. But then, like, if you watch me on stream, like, I don't take anything seriously. I'm just bullshitting all the time. Yeah.

I mean, you've, you've, like, categorized it somehow in your mind. Yeah. It just makes sense. Yeah, so the food part I'm figuring out, like, it will be a little bit of a journey. It's weird. Like, OZempic is a weird drug in that, like, it's exactly great for a person like me. But my brain doesn't want to take shortcuts. I don't, like, I can't convince myself to take it because.

I get it. What you described, though, was very, like, specific, like, in your mind, just never being able to, like, avoid it, like, because you can't satiate it. That's, like, specifically what it does. Exactly. But you don't, and the thing is, too, and I'm not, again, it's not like I'm trying to get you to do it. You do it every one, do you live your life.

But if you, there's, like, amounts you could take, because I've been experiencing, experimenting with it, just to see what it does mentally. Like, because. See, that's what I'm afraid of. But there's a ton of studies around it exactly what you just described as far as, like, avoiding addictions and all these sort of things that you know that urge you're like oh i got to do it it's hard for me to say no to like it makes that part of your brain a little bit more effective essentially so um for what it's worth like it does seem like an effective drug i did a lot of

research around it yeah but i i did see a decent amount of cases like any any drug that has ability to control your hormones could potentially also fuck them up and so like as i understand it the main hormone that controls hunger is grellin. And so like there's not many drugs that could pretty accurately attack a specific hormone. And so there are some people that will take it and they get depressed after or it fucks with their brain in some way that just hasn't been studied yet. And like that scares the shit at him because I love where my brain's at.

Like now if I was fucked up and like depressed and going through it like I have fuck it, I'd take some. It doesn't matter. But like I really don't want to fuck with the way my brain. is right now. I mean, there's no arguing that. Yeah. That's the key. Yeah, so I'm really petrified of touching anything. Up until like two years ago, I didn't even take like Tylenol. I don't like take any of that kind of shit. Yeah, because I don't, I don't know, but like I did, now I take day quill when I get sick just because it dead ass half's the period. And I could stream when

I'm actually on day quill because my throat works. So like, yeah, I'm really, I take it slow when it comes because you never know, but like 10 years from now they could be like recall on all people. y'all motherfuck is dying class action lawsuit anyone that's taking ozambic your toes falling off and like really like we take so many risks in this modern life like no cap there was a i think we could find out next year that like Wi-Fi gives you cancer and we're all fucked we don't know any of these things that we use we don't know what the fuck could go wrong long term for sure the bruce who this shit's yeah we're rolling the dice on life and now they're saying i think I heard something about 6G connection.

I'm like, oh, brother. Like, we have fast. Nigger, I'm not a lot. I'm having connection issues in L.A., bro, 4G. It's starting to remind me of the iPhone fucking trend where they're like, they start fucking slowing down your iPhone so they try to get you with the new thing.

Yes, and that was proven true, by the way. Yeah, Apple got sued over that. But I'm telling you, they're going to start doing that with the internet. Because the internet's been fast. Like, how can it get faster? Now it's getting faster. And next to you know, when they're about to release it getting faster,

the old shit's going to feel slower. But we don't even need more speed. We need more range. Like I can drive through L.A. and have zero bars in certain areas. Bro, you know what I found so interesting right now? The fact that you knew what Grelin was just blew my mind. I'm sorry, I went back to that. Yeah, I'm telling you, I learned a lot of shit when I, yeah.

I didn't say it earlier, but you blew my mind that you knew what that was. Yeah, I watch a lot of random. Yeah, I watch way too many videos. So, like, yeah, bro, I never really know what it is. But so I try, I'm really conservative with the risks I take in. Are you an anxious kind of person? No. I just like, like, I don't know.

So I'm Muslim. So I feel like this life has a lot of stakes because to us, like this is a test. And then the next life is the real life you should be preparing for. And so like I don't want to die early over some dumb shit and then not have the time to like get, you know, rack up my good deeds and then, you know, repent for my sins. So I really feel like there's a lot on the line. So I don't want to go early because like, you know, you ever, you have probably friends in your life that just do whatever, bro. like just crazy shit they don't get fuck what risks it comes with they just be doing it I can't I can't do that because I just feel like there's way too much on the line for me to act like that

recklessly so you're fully you're fully bought in you believe in it yeah yeah I just yeah I just have to it's just a matter of getting the discipline of practice more what makes you what makes you believe that that's like a certainty and I'm not at all questioning it I'm just curious it's like okay so if you read the Quran it's it's a fascinating book is almost like reading poetry and in that like you don't even really you can't even completely comprehend it without it being explained to you you know like when you go to english class into shakespeare that you can read the english you know what the words are literally meaning but you don't know what shakespeare meant by them because language changed so much and that's over the course of a

few hundred years so the gron uh that's like 1300 years ago yeah and so like when but when it's properly explained to you by someone who studies it like is truly like transatlantic I feel like a lot of people, they have their, like, misconceptions about what it stands for, what it means and what it preaches. But, like, I genuinely feel like any structure you can give your life will help move you forward. And I feel like the worst thing you can do is have no structure and no meaning and no purpose. So, like, I don't care what people believe. I genuinely feel like most religions will at least give you a foundation so that you can attach. life meaningfully. And when you do that, you are more useful and helpful to the people around

you. And if everybody did that, the world would be a much better place. You're right. And you know what's really interesting about the point you made about having structure. And the interesting thing is in life, whether you are aware of it or not, if you don't have structure, then your structure is recklessness or disfunctioning. And kind of just what other people say and how it affects you, then you move in that direction. So then it's, whether you're aware of it or not, it's happening. So you're absolutely right. Having structure is like a foundational thing. And I think a lot of people struggle with just finding that. And I know a lot of people struggle with, even just finding like sort of a religion that makes sense. I mean, I struggled for a long time

with, you know, I grew up in a Catholic church and I kind of like was like, this seems kind of weird that I got more into Christianity. And I struggled just a long time in general just about God and being like this is this is real versus this is just some something that is supposed to make people feel better about their own mortality and as I've gotten older the more and more I guess I kind of look into it the more and more I feel more at peace with it and I'm like way more I don't want to say God fearing but more more belief like I just struggle for so long because my life was just interesting growing up it's weird because like faith like you're not going to talk to God Like, so, like, the way you'd usually prove something is by, like, physically seeing it or something like that.

So, like, you kind of have to look for evidence and proof that things are happening around you and is God that controls them. I just think to me, like, it was weird. The more you... One time in my first year of uni, I took a kinesiology course. And, like, you know, you learn about the human body and you probably know a lot about this, all the fucking infinite muscles you have in your body. and bones and structure and how one small thing can go wrong and the whole system starts fucking up and we're one species like it almost should feel like an impossibility in your brain that this all happened and nobody created it no intelligent infinitely intelligent like it just

happened all this like even if like a spark yeah yeah there's this channel i watch called ybs young bloods on youtube and like he dead asses but goes to like random islands in australia and like fucking goes in coral reefs and I'm seeing animals I never seen before I'm like all this just happened there's no way so like I think you could reasonably come to the conclusion that there has to be some higher power and I think that's a point a lot of people people do believe that for the most part they might not know which one they believe in or done research to figure out like what their core beliefs are and stuff like that but even people that like used to be religious or aren't or at least agnostic most of the time like they believe there is a higher power

but they don't know what it is for them. Uncertainty, yeah. I genuinely feel like you should explore. Like, this is your one life. Why not find out what your purpose is? And that's more important than fucking going to university and getting a career. I guarantee you when you're like fucking 60, you're not going to give a fuck about the 30 years you spent personal training

or the 50 years you spent being a lawyer. It's going to be a lot less significant than you spending time to discover what makes your life meaningful and what the purpose of your life is and you don't have to come to the same conclusion as everybody else but i think the pursuit of that is like of the utmost importance so like it's different for everybody like you can find meaning in something that somebody else thinks is baloney and then vice versa but i think you know just as like a reasonable human being you just accept the fact that you believe what you believe i believe what i believe and then we coexist in spaces and we respect each other why do you think it's so hard for people to find their purpose

Because that's a good question. I feel like people aren't thinking as much anymore, you know? Yeah, for sure. You kind of just scroll on TikTok, you know. It's almost scary how much control people can have over you. It's what I just said earlier. There's just recklessness. It's like I didn't fix what, like where I'm at.

And even as you age, you kind of shift and it changes what you're thinking of or what you find important versus what you find less important or what makes you feel more purposeful. But if you're not looking at everything that, like, for you how it makes sense and you're just looking around at content people other things he said that she said that it's just recklessness yeah i think most people are existing in that space of just like i'm watching everything else that's true and also people are just really distracted like you don't go to school and they teach you like what's your purpose of life you go to school and they teach you how to be a good worker your whole life is designed around you being able to have a career and to be a useful member to this economy.

So, like, it'd be different if, like, there were eight courses in school and your whole semester was about finding your purpose, meaning learning about any type of spirituality, religion, faith. Like, but it isn't, realistically. So, like, the distraction sometimes is your work. The distraction sometimes is all the things in between that don't have anything to do with faith, with spirituality, with finding your purpose.

purpose. So, like, anything that's taking you away from that could be considered distraction. I just feel like since we're not taught that, most people don't feel like it's a necessity to find that. And honestly, sometimes people just distract themselves with, like, momentary happiness, you know, buy a new bag, get a new phone, like, discover this, go travel this place, like, go out to the club tonight. So, like, if you distract yourself enough, you could pretty honestly, if you distract yourself enough, you could act like you have no problems successfully. Yeah. I think a lot of people do that. that's scary though yeah it is pretty scary that's a scary one for me it's nice that like i'm

pretty good at distracting myself uh especially if i feel like there's a huge problem there's nothing i could do about it but like there's times where like come on bro like let's focus on the problem at hand and let's handle the shit no matter how hard it is yeah what do you think your purpose is um at least at this point in your life yeah so like you know in a religious perspective it's all kind of set pretty clear like my purpose is to just praise god and to hit my daily prayers and to make sure I obey his command. But in a more worldly sense, I think my purpose is to, I think to a certain extent, anytime you entertain your purposes to distract people, you're a distraction, you feel me, the entertainment's not necessary. But I think in a more

important sense, like I hope that I can, it's weird. Like, even though I stream all the time and like what I do is just entertainment people will tell me lessons they've learned from things I've done yeah and so like even if even if it's just setting a good example having a very positive impact on the people around me like I give people like pretty positive daily reminders on my stream like I think my purpose is just to be a source of good and something positive in this world as best as I know how like no one's perfect but like as the more I could do that the better um I used to do you think like the legacy is important like what do you think about like you having a legacy? A legacy as far as what people view or know of me. Yeah, like how people

think of you when they think of Bradley Martin. So I think, I think that's what, that's kind of what your purpose will become, right? Because, you know, one of my favorite quotes of all time, not you know as in you should know, but one of my favorite quotes of all time is people won't remember what you said, but they'll remember how it's a Maya Angelico, they remember how you made them feel. There's more to that quote than that. But, That quote sort of makes me think about, okay, how could I live my life in a way that is able to help people live their life better than before? And then what can they learn or what could they get or what sort of information or what

did I say? Because a lot of my success, I look back and I was like track and I'm like tracking if I'm reading what people are saying and then people come up to me in person, it's always related to the things that I said. Like, yeah, I did the weightlifting stuff. did the crazy lifting shit with girls and all the viral stuff, but the people would come to me and say, oh, I watched this video and you spoke about this and it made me be like, damn, I believe in this or I looked at my life differently or I started a business because I saw it this.

And I noticed all that stuff just was like, there's more power there than like, oh, man, it's cool. You fucking jumped out of a pool or whatever the fuck you did. And while I'm saying this all to say that I think legacy is that purpose, it just kind of how it lives on because life truly to me is about like sharing love and sharing. sharing moments and like helping other people learn through what you've learned or them helping you through what they've learned. And then the people, obviously who live on, your legacy following your death, right, that's how people translate that, you know, that guy who said, you know, I watched this video, you changed

my life or I started my business or I didn't take my life because I heard what happened you and your father, whatever it was in my past. And now their life is different and their life is affecting other lives that I'll never know, I'll never hear of as I'm gone. right so that's that's what legacy to me sort of is and that's what i think if we call it important i think that is important because i think that's what ultimately changes the world yeah so like even the examples you gave are like um those are short term like somebody saw something and in the short term it had an impact on something they did it's weird so i have this new theory is

why i asked you like i think that legacy is not as important as people make it seem and the only reason I say that is because like how many people do we remember from like the last hundred years do we like people like just general public how we as a whole recognize a couple of hundred maybe right the michael jackson's the cobi brines even the evil ones like the hitlers and shit like that so if you did something extremely good or extremely bad you may be remembered if you reached the top couple hundred now if we go back a thousand years maybe you include a couple kings and queens that irrelevant maybe a couple's master slave let's go back a few thousand years maybe some profits maybe some religious figures it's very hard to be remembered yeah even tomorrow let alone 10 years

from like let alone 50 years from now by the general public people's memories like this you you watch do you watch sports yes who's your favorite team on what which sport like basketball for example I mean, I have to say Lakers by default because I've lived here for so long. So, like, even if I asked you, like, name eight people on the 2012 Lakers team, you probably forgot some of them even existed. Like, most people, who is Sasha Vuyichich? I don't know. He was like the eighth.

I've definitely heard that name a ton. Yeah, he was like the ninth man when Kobe, Powell and Bynum played there. And the only reason I remember that is because I watched every single game back that year, but most people would not remember. But if you ask people during that year who Sasha was, they would say, oh, he's a Laker. So, like, people's memory fades so fast that even his legacy has faded. And took a stray at Sasha for no reason. But, like, it made me a little pessimistic that anything I do will be remembered.

So my priority more so is just, like, anything I could change right now. Realistically, like, how many Michael Jackson's are they going to be? There's not many. So, like, most people's legacy will fall a lot shorter than they believe it will to the general public. Now, to their family, to their close friends, you kind of hope that will always be there. But you don't need to be a public figure to have an impact around the people around. Of course not, yeah. So the reason why I say that is, like, my theory has developed.

And I genuinely feel like the way to have the best legacy is to die. No cap. I think if you survive till 85 and die of natural causes, it doesn't hit the same. I think if you get gunned down at 35, if you die of cancer at 45, your impact, if you, only cared about legacy, that's, I think, because no funny shit is crazy. Like, I love Kobe. I cried when he died. Yeah, that was a weird thing. I genuinely love him with all my heart. I think that death or not, his legacy would have lasted hundreds of years. That's my hope. But I think the way in which he passed, I think his legacy will last thousands, in my opinion.

And that's probably me glazing because I love Kobe. But it's interesting how legacy works and what people choose to remember about you. Yeah, well, it's also weird that, like, just the fact that you believe, and I'm not, and I'm not even saying that you're wrong, that death makes it more substantial. It's like, that's kind of thought. Like, we even see it sometimes, like, when an artist dies and immediately, like, their numbers go up on Spotify and stuff like that. And, like, it's not usually a short-term bump. Like, depending on the community they've built, sometimes, like, it's like, that's just, their community is just tripled in size as a result of their death. But, like, legacy is such an interesting thing. I think I used to really care about it and now I don't care so much.

So like, I care a lot more about like what I could say or do today that can maybe help somebody. But like, you know, realistically, like people aren't going to remember who I am. So, but it's interesting to me because you, you mentioned earlier about Islam and, like, this is the life that you live for the next life, essentially. Isn't that not, is it counterintuitive in a sense? No, like, okay, my thoughts on legacy. here are pretty independent of that because like if if you thought of it from an islamic pov it doesn't matter like the only thing that matters is the good deeds you take into the next life like in the bad deeds you take into the next life yeah and so like when the day of judgment

comes literally nothing else will matter so I'm really just thinking about it more from like a worldly perspective but like yeah it's I like asking people that because like I feel like everyone kind of has a different opinion yeah and like sometimes if I hear your opinion it might change the way I think about mine yeah I mean at the end of the day like like you said it's just what are we doing here that just has an impact on what's happening here today? Like the goal should be to give and to share love as much as you can so that other people along the way kind of, oh, I feel a little bit better. That's all you really can do.

Because you also can't obsess or think like, oh, what is my legacy going to be and how am I going to be remembered? It's kind of like people are going to remember you. Yeah. I'm curious, do you think people think that or do you think they just live their lives and then it happens? I'm curious that people like, there might be people that have tried to manufacture what that is. for them or like what legacy they'll leave behind oh do i think that there's people who are like

wealthy or famous that have like tried to make like uh probably huh there has to be to some some extent i don't know how much you can really do i mean i guess it's all what again it's what you do here so then i don't know are they like doing focus fucking donations be like i'm such a good person they did nothing good their whole life they robbed people they stole and all of a sudden they're like here's a billion dollars of this fucking you know that was the grift for a while honestly which one like the billionaire giving away all my money grift like like but they would give it to a foundation they completely owned and ran and it was a huge tax right off I remember that worry that was affected for like 10 years yeah well that's oh god the world's weird man what do you think really matters then um that's a good

question I think it's going to depend it's different for everybody like a lot of when you ask a lot of people their answer is happiness yeah and that's interesting to me because you could be happy doing a lot of fucked up things yeah yeah so i don't think it's happiness um but maybe i also say that out of like like i'm not being completely grateful because i've never really been sad in life like i've always kind of been neutral to happy so like i don't know maybe if somebody has dealt with like significant sadness depression shit like that like they might be dead ass like they just won't be happy that's their goal but to me um i just want my life to be complete when I'm done.

I want it to have meant something. But what makes the life complete? Like, I have goals and desires. I want to do them all. And, like, it doesn't, I don't have to have a billion dollars or I don't have to have a billion followers or whatever. Like, there's no metric that's going to help me feel like I got there. But, like, I really want to feel like everything I set out to do, I didn't get distracted.

I didn't lose focus, and I didn't fail. Like, I really went out there and succeeded. And so that would make me feel like everything was complete. But it's crazy. Like, things changed so much. Like, if you asked me 10 years ago, I wanted to be the GM of the Raptors. Like, I was going to be in a corporate world just trying to fucking win the Toronto Raptors their first every championship. And like, so it's weird now that YouTube's worked out and I dropped out of school and I'm doing all this streaming shit now.

like you never really know like people dead ass graduate with film degrees and fucking work in completely different avenues you don't really know where life's going to take you but i do want to feel like i didn't fuck up like i don't want to have regrets when i'm done like i want to feel like i completed everything i wanted to yeah that would make me that will that'll make me happy i feel like that made me feel like my life had purpose that's my yeah yeah purpose is like you said the person who went to school for this and now they're doing that purpose is very like non-linear just keeps like even as you get older may oh i really want to do this could be completely different than what you're doing now but did you start on youtube originally yeah you know it's crazy

i started as an NFL plug channel in 2008 yeah i was looking back yeah i like used to take clipped moments and shit like that like marshawn lynch had that big 60 yard run you know the one where he stiff armed the nigger on the saints and the commentator was like get off of me yeah that was my biggest clip so i posted that like right as it happened and the shit blew up and And I'm looking at hundreds of thousands of views. And every time the NFL would copyright it, and I would just get right back at it. So like, but I just, I didn't think nothing of it. I wasn't getting paid.

I just thought like, yo, this is fire. Let me share it. Yeah. So, like, that's how my brain worked. So eventually, Call a Duty commentary just kind of popped up on the scene. And I felt like I could do it. Now, but at the time, my voice was real squeaky. So instead of jumping straight into commentary, I edited for people.

So, like, you would get a couple of trick shot clips and stuff like that. And then you would send it to me, and I'd put together a montage to showcase your skills. So I got proficient in a whole bunch of stuff, like 3D modeling, animation, VFX. Like, I learned how to do scripts and stuff like that on After Effects to automate different functions. How were you finding the creators to edit for? I played with them. Okay. So I just, I wasn't good enough as a player to be that guy.

So I just found my lane. My role was to edit for people. That's what I was good at. So, like, I would find, like, and if you can align, with a good player, get a crazy clip, and your name is on a montage because you put that shit together the right way. And even if the players suck, you could cook and make the player look way better than he really was if you just edit it properly. So that's what I did. So for three years, I did that until I finally hit puberty. And once I was like 14, 15, I just started doing

my own commentary. So I bounced around a lot from Cod. I did a lot of GTA when it came out, GT5 um fucking watchdogs the last of us like i i began to get really good at games i would get top thousand on the last of us and then i would tell people how i would get top 50 on ghost recon and i would tell people how and so like yeah ghost recon bro what's one of my favorite franchises yeah all the tom clancy games goaded yeah so i did that for long enough and eventually i found a home on NBA 2k and uh at first i was the my gm guy i don't know if you've ever played that mode. No, I suck. I don't play those kind of games. Yeah. I play shooters. Me too. Yeah. So, but I think they call it my league now, but you're basically the GM of your team.

Yeah, I get it. And it was loki, like, a little ironic because I was trying to be the GM of the Raptors. So, like, it made sense. So I'm doing YouTube on the side being a fake GM. In real life, I'm in school studying to be a real GM. And so, like, that made sense for me. I did that for three, four years. And then eventually, I pivoted because that was getting stale into, like, more park gameplay. So That's probably what you've seen before, where, like, you get your creative player and you get in the park. And I began to get known as the best shooter in the game. So I would have these crazy games I would drop. I was one of the first people to start dropping, like, 95-point games on the point.

How does somebody even get good at shooting? It's just you're not shooting in real life, you're shooting in a game. Is it the timing? Yeah. So there's, like, different tricks you can do with the way you create your jump shot to the badges you get to your build that would make it very easy for you to just hit everything. Okay. So I would drop videos to show people how. And as I would, they would get patched.

And so, like, I kind of became the guy that was really good at shooting. But I didn't have no bag, though. I couldn't really dribble. Like, I didn't have a big man. But so when people needed some shooting advice, it came to me. So it was the same thing, like, in Kodnaut where, like, you try and find the meta gun. Yeah.

You could have a meta bill. Kind of like that, yeah. And then it gets patched and you've got to read, find a new one. Yeah. But the benefit, though, to switching genres for me from my gym to Park was that park was that park audience was way bigger. So, like, some of the biggest people you even know on the internet now started on Park from fucking Aiden to even the guys like you might remember like fredo yeah he was really big um to like most

of A&P Duke Davis phantom me like even if you think of the two hype guys like the jessers cash like all everybody there's so many people that started from that community casso started from that what I didn't know that but so it's like it's very underrated but a lot of some online greats started from the park community so like I really felt like everything kind of open up for me when I started to succeed in that genre. And then eventually, you know, you do anything long enough. You get a little tired of it. And I found a way to pivot to more like IRL content. So that's more of what I do now. Yeah. How'd you, how'd you get linked up with the A&P thing? Me, Phantom, Davis used to play 2K together all the time. So like, if I needed

somebody for a video, I'd hit up Davis, Phantom. And Davis used to be, they used to call themselves dynamic duos with Duke Dennis. So like him and Duke had a connection. So that was the original four right there. Makes sense. So when we started doing content, IRA, we just drew from like our friends. So I hit up Davis, Davis hit up Duke. We hit up Phantom. So, like, we've done stuff IRL together before we shot videos.

Like, we spent hours and hours on Discord and even back in the day on Skype playing with each other. So, like, it felt comfortable. You remember Skype? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And then, like, six, I think it was like a year into it, Phantom was like, yeah, we should add somebody and so he he presented kai i seen a few of kai's campus videos on my timeline

before i thought he was funny but i was like yo we don't need another member but he's like fuck it let's just invite him over he doesn't have to you know say no commitment he said he's down so kai slid back then he was doing like ding dong ditch videos like campus videos like girl content shit like that like he was low-key cooking on campus like he was doing a type of content I feel like if you're on YouTube and you're like in a campus and university in dorms, you should be able to cook with that type of stuff because it's just like so good for interactions. So he over the course of a weekend convinced all of us that like it made sense.

He completely elevated, yeah, he completely elevated. So he came in and was like, yo, we should do this. No, no, no. He didn't, he was shy. He didn't say nothing. he would when we was at the crib so we used to crash at my original crib when I first moved to Atlanta we didn't have a house

or nothing like that so anytime people came down yo we got an A&P shoot everybody comes down for three days they just crash at my house you know fucking Phantom takes the couch Duke takes the other couch like Davis will sleep upstairs and the fucking laundry room like we just crashed wherever like we just try to make it work

um Kai wasn't even in the videos originally the first meet he came to he was just supposed to watch and before reference point you You knew those other guys for how many years before you guys met Kai? Like three, four. Just playing video games. Yeah.

Got it. And I think Phantom and Davis knew each other even longer. Maybe like five, six. Playing video games. Yeah, just playing games with each other. So cool. I have some good friends like that's insane, right? Yeah.

So like, but Kai was able to contribute to the videos, not even being in them in ways that elevated them. So we had an iconic video now. It was a 21 video. It was really, really heated. We just went to a gym. We played a game of 20. and Davis and Duke had an iconic fight in that video that people will still remember to this day

if they watch all the A&P videos. And in that video, like, I believe it was that video, Kai was on the sideline. He wasn't even supposed to be in the video. But like, every time the camera whips him, he was like, oh, go guys, come on, yo. He just brought this energy. And like, it made me laugh. And so I'm like, if this is making me laugh, there's no way our audience is not going to find him hilarious. so and so we did a few other videos and he did the same thing like he just elevated whichever video

anytime a camera whipped in his direction his energy was just so contagious so after that we're like yeah this niggas he's amazing we love him like this makes sense and then so that was five and then chris used to be our editor and we told him to come down to some shoots I think the first shoot he came down to was A&P makes a mixtape in 24 hours and he cooked like he was on camera and he was he you could tell he was shy but he was hilarious yeah and so we're like bro this nigga does not need to be editing he needs to be on camera so like he still edited but now he became the sixth member of the group and so that's kind of what makes it now and i don't think it'll ever change yeah how so how does the group operate does it does the does a mp itself

like for example uh you know i talked to guys like banks and phase and um i know phase doesn't necessarily pay the members. Does A&P take deals and then you guys take deals or you guys take in it? Is it just kind of like a group or? Yeah, it'd be nice if we get to the point where like we could pay each other out what we feel like we should get paid. You feel me? Yeah. But like every dollar we've made goes right back in and things that floodgates have finally opened. Thank God. Like we really just made ad sense and then our apparel Loki kind of did really well too. Yeah. So like that was our only revenue source for a while, but now we're getting, like, good brand deals that's bringing in money. Like, we just did a Call of Duty game night. Yeah. Feel me? Like,

the game nights is easy for us because, like, we love playing games with each other. That's how we fucking met. Well, we're going to get paid to play. Bro, what layup? Especially games that we already play. Come on, bro. That's like, come on. You like the new card? Yeah. That's probably my favorite card in a while. It's my favorite zombies of all time. I haven't even touched the zombies yet. Zombies are incredible. See, I got to play that. But I don't know how I feel the, the matchmaking's so, like, it's too much. It's too much. Yeah, but I like, I don't play pubs. Like, I'm not going to randomly get on and play pubs. Like, I'll blow my brains out. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. But, like, I'll play with

friends or, like, you know, if there's a tournament or there's something interesting going on, like, I'll hop on and play. But like, if I just play pubs, like, I dead ass would lose my mind. Yeah. That's just franchise fatigue for me, though. I've played so much cod in my life. Yeah. There's so much cod timing bullshit. Just get shot in the back too much with the side. I'm like, fuck this shit. Yeah. And the zombies is so, yeah, the spawns are bad because the maps are kind of small. Yeah. Yeah. But they're putting new maps in. But you have to play the zombies it's actually incredible i played a bit of it at codxp they invited me out and but i don't think it's the same version everyone's playing now because it felt really easy back then and i heard they made

a lot harder no and you can even make it harder even harder okay it's it's a lot of fun i know it's fun because i can play it by myself that's tough bro i'm glad they finally made a zombies that people enjoy because it was it's been a while oh it's been a long time fuck dude but so okay so so so amp so you guys had it so how many years before kai came in and then it like it was like I don't remember the exact time on. It's probably like a year before Kai came in. And Chris came in around the same time, too. Okay.

And then once we got that, we eventually ended up getting a house together, and that changed the game. That was the Atlanta first Atlanta house. Yes. But we rented that one. We blew that shit up. And then some things we can't talk about because lawsuits happened. And then we eventually, in what could only be described as a miracle.

And we needed to find a crib in one month because we were. getting evicted. And at the time, everybody was spread apart. Every day I'm hitting a group chat. Yo, we're looking at these two homes. Who wants to come? You know, if Phantom's Freehill slide, if David's Freehill slide, I went to every home. I'm hunting. Like, and at the time, I was doing a couple of videos on my YouTube channel, like, looking for the new A&P home. Like, those were, like, lighthearted, but behind the scenes, we were panicking. Because, like, I know people thought we had hella bread, but we don't have, like, $3 million to get, like, a fire crib. And, like, we were getting to the point in terms of like people recognizing us that if we get a crib like on a on a normal

street it's over like yeah crowds are going to be outside like swatted every day so like we couldn't just get any crib so now we needed a gates or we needed to be in the tuck a little bit so that that gets a lot more expensive so like we hunted we finally found like a perfect crib and it was two and a half million dollars we could not afford it none of us had that type of credit. We didn't have the credit that goes that long. We put this magical mortgage together that combined the powers of all of our credit. Yeah, it was like some power range or shit. And the closing date got delayed six times because of difficulties. And the owners let us stay in the crib while we close. No cap. Like we had no

business successfully getting that house it made no sense at all but we fucking pulled it off and after a two and a half month period where no cap i probably had to go into the bank every two days just to hey we need this document hey we need you to sign this hey we need you to prove this we need you to send this here it was a pain in the ass but we finally did it so that was the second crib and then we own that now so when we want to have a fucking firework war because that's what the fuck we want to do we could do whatever we like and that kind of like opened the door for us a lot in terms of content we could do you don't have to ask the permission of the owner so that we can bring a horse into kai's room or if i want to have an orby gun war i don't have to ask permission for shit we just do

whatever the fuck we want yeah dude i mean you guys have like it does because i saw you did a 50s thing yeah yeah that's fun with uh with sinna yeah that's really fun you you don't like it when people do you love sinna what's going on in no no it's not love she's a good friend yeah i think just it's weird like i can have good chemistry with a guy and then no one says anything. And then if I have good chemistry with a woman, like, it's just, like, they're perfect for each other. They're perfect. Why are they not dating? You know, that's how, that's just the internet, though. That's the internet, bro. It sucks because, like, genuinely, like, there's certain things I want to be able to do with her on camera, but I just know people are going to take

it a different way. I'm like, damn, bro. Like, I don't want to have to, like, I just want to be myself. So there's no spark there? No, no. We're just friends, bro. Okay. Yeah, man. I mean, I know you're celib and all that, but like, yeah, we're just, we're just dead-ass friends, bro. You guys, I just, whenever I, like, I, like, anytime I search you, the first thing that comes up is, I'm just saying. I mean, it's good content. It's good content. But, like, yeah, like, nowadays I just, I don't even know what else to say because, like, I feel like people don't believe me, but it's like, how can I get people to believe me? It doesn't matter. How can you prove something's not what people think it is? It doesn't matter. Yeah. Doesn't matter. Did she ever clean the dishes,

though? Nah, she, like, goes at her way. did not do anything like that just to make it. Bro. That feels funny. I watch some clips. No, she's actually great, though. She's good vibes. And I also just think she's a great content creator, too.

Like, she, when the first thing people think about her, when they think of her streams and content, is like, she has a great personality. And, like, when that's the first thing people think about you, you're going to have a long career. Especially as a female. A hundred percent. Yeah. So, like, yeah, I'm proud of a lot of the growth she's had recently. but like she's been cooking bro okay out of a mp who do you think is the most creative member

the most creative is probably kai in terms of like content i think more conceptually probably chris okay yeah who you think's the funniest the funniest like not on camera in real life kind of shit the funniest to me is going to be a tie between davis and duke bro davis and duke behind the scenes are so fucking funny. Like, it's different because, like, people just see what they see on camera. So, like, their opinion on who's the funniest or whatever is probably going to be different. But I live with these guys.

Bro, Duke and Davis are some of the funniest niggas alive. Alive. I love it, man. But it's not like they're cracking jokes. It just could be something they're doing that makes me die laughing. But, yeah, to me, it's probably those too. But it's close. I think Kai is also really funny.

And Phantom could be funny, too. Yeah, yeah. So Kai, Kai is, like, kind of. just complete almost reinventing streaming like he is he's kind of like the mr beast is streaming now yeah low key right yeah i mean the people that i see the biggest obviously kai and speed yeah speed is more i mean speed he just like travels so much i don't see kai traveling as much but the production value of kai stuff i'm like this is crazy i saw him release some fucking like trailer for a fucking i mean even his current trailers for the the the mafia thing with like

fucking Kim Kardashian, but he released a trailer for some video game, some, some elder ring probably. Nah, I was, uh. Was it Securo? Yeah. Yeah. And I was just like, he did this after effects thing he spent, he had to spend like tons of fucking money. Yeah, there are a lot of money. So do you ever, do you ever feel like you as a streamer, obviously you guys are in the same

click, but do you ever feel like you have to like, oh shit, I got to step my shit up? Nah, because realistically, I can't spend like millions of dollars on a Mafiathon the same way he does. Right. So, like, I don't like, even regardless, I don't like compare myself to anybody. I just try and do the best thing I can. Yeah. And that's going to look very different depending on, like, what streamers you watch. But even between Speed and Kai, like, they're really great.

In my opinion, the two best streamers in two completely different ways. But at the same time, they work really well together. Oh, 100%. So, like, it's a weird combination. Like, you can't compare Kai in Speed Streams at all. Kai can, Kai, no cap every day in his Mofithon so far. has been doing eight interesting things. If you look away for a second,

you missed a fire piece of content. And there's different segments and there's different guests coming in and it feels so grand and the production's so big and the entertainment's so elite. Like he's so good at bouncing off other people no matter who it is.

You could put like the most socially awkward nigg around him and he could make the most hilarious content around it. Regardless of who the person is, that's special. Most people don't have that. And then speed has this way to connect. to anybody anywhere in the world and bring the best out of them like anytime you watch a speed stream people are smiling and laughing like you get a sense of how grand he is by the people and what they're willing to do around him and like he's also exceptional in so many random ways

you wouldn't expect the fact that he almost beat noah lials and a race is insane but i was like it's a guy not trying though it doesn't matter he shouldn't even come close i know it's a streamer versus an Olympic athlete, bro. I know. It shouldn't have been that close. And Loki, he didn't want to race him again. I was like, uh, he knew that was scary. He didn't like that.

Yes. So like, I genuinely think they just provide such a different value, but like in a very great way. They compliment each other. I hate when people like use it as a way to have them up against each other. Yeah. But not only are they friends, but like, why can't there could be two greats? Why is it?

You feel me? Like people always find a, you always got to compare. It's like the Jordan versus LeBron thing. We can't just appreciate greatness. Yeah. No, bro. it's i just can't believe the fact i just can't believe kai could just sit in front of a desktop and just like make that much kind of insane content no cap it's fucking that is impressive yeah he's

and also so sue he has a where is this house at it's this new house i don't want to give well don't yeah yeah but it's it's it's like maybe 30 minutes from here okay so i i watched ddg do some like background like behind the scenes and he there's like a giant room with like yeah it's hell of production people there like how big is this team that's not his team that's not his He just outsourced that. But his actual team is very, very small. Okay. It's really just a couple people.

Tech and then assistant. Okay. And everything else, like he'll bring on people to do a big ass like commercial. Yeah. But like. So is he planning on like using that whole house as like live stream? For this month, yeah. Because that's what it looked like.

The cameras are like around the entire property. Yeah. So like if he walks into that room like he'll show that camera. Bro. That's fucking nuts. It's fucking. And I, bro, that shit is expensive, too. Like, it's weird.

Like, he could dead ass pocket all of that and, like, be filthy rich. But he's choosing to spend millions to make cool shit. Yeah, that's the Mr. V-Five. That's crazy. Most people wouldn't, bro. Like, 95% of people would not. They would pocket it. But that's why they get to that level.

Like, it's great. They get to that level, but they don't go to that level. Whatever goes, oh, what the fuck? Like, what is that? Exactly. So it makes sense. Because, yeah, dude, it's, I know that stuff's not cheap. Is it so is it true that Kai really like his house is always hot 90 degrees I actually did

Yeah bro you you were serious with it bro yes his bow you walk in his room is 90 degrees It's yo I'm glad we got different thermostats and AMPOs because we're all so different Yes yes it was literally 90 degrees when I went there it was really bad but like he's always been like And you know what's crazy I run my room's hot so I like I'll run it 73 most of the time That's like that's above room temp but like I can sleep in hot conditions so I I don't even mind it. But I know most people prefer cold. I can't, dude.

I got to have cold. Yeah. Most people prefer cold. Nineties nuts, bro. Yeah, it's hot. He's like a sauna. Yeah. The AC dead ass might not have worked on how extreme it was.

There's a good chance. I don't know. Yeah. But you said all his rooms has been like that. Yeah, even if you go in his room in the A&P house, it's usually way harder than everyone else. Fuck, dude. All right, guys, this podcast is sponsored by Better Help.

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185 190 i think i'll be comfortable at that weight um especially because i'll have some loose skin so then like i'm really probably like 180 178 and i think that's like a good weight for me would you ever do that surgery to fix the stuff it depends on how much i have um maybe but the idea of surgery scares me because then you got to take a whole bunch of drugs to not feel things and then yeah i get you yeah that scares the shit out of me so if there's any way not to i won't but like i'm open to it if if the side effects aren't too crazy i haven't researched it so i don't know yeah so you want to be like 180 190 do you do you have any like weightlifting goals or just like number wise not not like goals in terms of uh what i want to lift

per se but like i've just been working through different programs like i'm on jeff nipper's program right now he has a push-pull legs that i really like it's fun for me it's like a good combo of like compound heavy lifts and then a lot of like accessory stuff too and then i'll sub in some workouts that i feel like might be better than the ones he gives or like he has a bunch of reverse flies and i tore my fucking shoulder doing one of them so i just hate that exercise yeah so i was like if i don't want to do it i'll just sub in some other shit but i've been yeah the lifting part has been really fun. I wish I had someone to go with every day, but my schedule is so fucked that that's unrealistic. So I just solo it. Yeah. Yeah. Your schedule just because

streaming. Yeah. How many hours you normally stream a day? I try and go live almost every day. Usually that ends up meeting like five days a week, but maybe like six hours on average. If it's an IRL stream, it'll be shorter. So that'll reduce the average. Like it might be like three, four or five hours. If it's a stream at my desktop, it'll be a little longer, maybe six, seven, eight hours. How do you structure what content you make? You're just like, you have like an idea the day before you. I want to talk about this? Yeah, so like what I'll do is I'll put together a fat fucking list on my phone.

You actually, one of my ideas include you. I was going to ask you about it. I wanted to get like six huge bodybuilders. Yeah. And then like just like struggle while everyone's just pumping, like just screaming, just a whole bunch of testosterone. On live? Yeah. Okay.

So just working in with a whole bunch of bodybuilders. Just like fucking throwing chalk in the air. Just like. But like, yeah, I'll have. have an idea. Like, I want to do Brazil. That would be such a funny clip. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, I'll think, like, oh, I want to do Brazilian jiu-jitsu. It's like, okay, what's the most interesting way I could do that? And so I'll start to build out what that stream would look like. And then, like, sometimes it's like the place that makes it interesting. Sometimes it's

the person I'm doing it with that makes it interesting. But, like, you know, I have thousands of ideas. So, like, anytime, so for the next week, I'll see, like, Friday, this is what I'm doing. Saturday, this what I'm doing. Sunday, this what I'm doing. Monday, this is what I'm doing. doing and then at the end of each day like um on sunday i'm going to a car show so like there's a few things i need to set up for that tonight i'm going to call people reach out to people make sure things are organized for like that stream and the next one and the next one so it's a little bit of a DIY little setup that i use but um it works for me and things move around so much especially when you deal with content creators like you're free this day and then like don't trust me i know

so that's the same thing with i mean it's different obviously we're not live but it's the same sort of five just getting someone to show up for a podcast you're like fuck the timing is crazy so so do you think that that uh streaming's harder than a nine to five then or what uh it depends like that's a silly convo because nine to five's is what are you doing are you the c o of facebook or are you fucking a grocery bagger right there's a different levels of like and so the problem with that conversation is that people act like just because you'd rather do one thing the question is is it harder not which one you'd rather do if the question is which one you'd rather do if the question is which one you'd rather do, everybody would rather

stream. Right. It's better. Yeah. But like, it doesn't mean that's easier, you feel me? So, like, if we're just speaking on difficulty, there are some challenges that come with streaming. And there's also some additional challenges that come once you get to a certain level. So

which, like, some people just aren't privy to. That being said, I think like, if you ask me what's more difficult roofing in the summer or streaming roofing. Oh, 100%. Like, obviously. Yeah. You feel me? Some are going to be difficult for physically like physically difficult like we can't underestimate how mentally difficult some jobs are too like an engineer for example like they have to solve some pretty pretty

significant problems you're not out there fucking lifting heavy things in the heat and drenched of sweat but that's also an incredibly difficult job depending on what type of engineer you are obviously yeah so like yeah i just ask the question because i know it gets people riled up yeah like people can be giving a wrong answer too i feel like first of all i feel like a lot of streamers and they're like, oh, obviously nine to five, really, bro? Like, you think a cashier is harder? Fucking stop it, bro. But, like, I think if we have the conversation for real, it's nuanced.

There's going to be some jobs is way easier. And we got to stop acting like nine to five. First of all, I know a lot of nine to five niggas that make way more money than all my streaming friends, bro. These nine to five niggas get to the bag, too. Okay. I feel like when people think nine to five, they think less than, which is weird because people that have nine to five jobs on.

average make more than entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs make way less on average. People just have this idea because the only entrepreneurs they hear of are the very successful billionaires. They just think everybody's real rich. Yeah. But like as an entrepreneur, you know what it is. There's a lot of responsibility and difficulty that comes with it and a lot of risk. And when the shit goes wrong, you're the one all in the bag. Yeah. Bro, check this out. I'm getting sued right now. You want to know why? Oh shit. I've been sued many times. God damn. I'm getting sued right now because some dude got thrown on the floor in front of my gym and I wasn't even there. He got thrown on the floor by another person?

By another person. So it'd be like, imagine like, and I get this lawsuit and I'm like, I'm looking at it. I'm like, negligence, all this crazy shit that I'm like, what the fuck is this? Like, it'd be like if I told you right now, yo, bro, let's go down to that Equinox. You beat me up. I'm going to sue Equinox and the owner in front of the gym. I mean, they'll fail. But like, is just the fact that you have to do that.

deal with it is annoying. The fact that I have to pay a lawyer to deal with it is crazy. Can't you sue him after the lawsuit? I will. He pays his lawyer fees. Yeah. For sure I will. It's weird, bro. Like, I feel like I should be more angry. Like, when people fuck with me, I feel like I forgive him. Like, I lose interest and forgive people way too fast. I don't know if you like that. Let's say somebody hits your car. This happened to me recently. I was in a fucking parking lot. This guy hit my car. In the moment, I was furious because my, like, it was my last remaining car that worked, first of all, because the rest of them had oil leaks here, getting modded here, a tree fell on this car here. So I was tight. It was a little dingered. I wasn't nothing crazy.

Just rewrap it, buff it out, you know, a few thousand dollars, maybe a few weeks in the garage, right? But then, like, the next day I woke up and I was like, damn, I know I'm not going to do shit about it. Like, I'm not going to sue this nigger. I'm not even going to file an insurance claim. Like, I know I'm not going to, like, I just woke up not caring, bro. But in the moment I was tight, bro. I was not happy at that guy. Dude, I guess it depends because I've gone through a lot of shit that I just let go. Yeah.

Then you get to a point where you're like, nah, fuck that. I need to start making examples of people, bro. Okay, let me tell you this example. Yeah. I let my friend, my friend Ash came to Atlanta. He said, yo, I need a Hellcat. I said, I can't get you a Hellcat on this notice, but I can let you use my truck, which has a Hellcat engine.

It's a TRX. So he takes my TRX. This lady on her phone, distracted and admitted to it, by the way, smashes into the back of my truck. I love those trucks, by the way. Yeah, yeah. They're fucking amazing.

It's probably my favorite vehicle. Yeah. And in the moment, I'm tight. I'm thinking of all the ways I'm going to sue her. Bro, tell me how I find out she doesn't have insurance. So she hit a $100,000 truck, no insurance. And so, like, I hit up my manager, manager hits up a lawyer, and they tell me my options. And they're like, no point of suing her.

You're going to end up spending $10,000. you're not going to get shit back i said fuck okay so whatever and so my insurance said they're not can handle it because i wasn't the nigga driving and so i was like damn bro i go to i bring my truck to the shop they say oh she hit the frame so even though the damage doesn't look crazy 27 000 no that's the whole truck bro i say gang like so like and i'm like do i do i want to be an asshole or do i just not care so i just chose not to care But I really think there's going to come a point where I choose to be an asshole in one of these situations. You will.

No cap. Because you get at some point you're like, bro, how can I can only take so much. Yeah. I can only get fuck so many times. And people think, especially when you got bread, they think like you shouldn't have no problems. And I think that's part of it too. Like the the nigga that hit my car in a parking lot was like, bro, you have a Tesla. You're going to be okay.

It's like, yeah, I know I'm going to be okay, bro, but you can't tell me that after hitting my car in the parking lot. He said, yeah, you got a Tesla. You're fine. Yeah, I said, I know I'm not struggling financially. bro, but you just hit my car, bro. This is my baby bitch. So how about you don't tell me how to feel in this situation, nigga, damn.

Yeah, that's crazy as fuck. Wait, so you let that guy just go... Yeah. I felt bad. Like, he was, it's weird. So this is actually... So he pulled up to the dealership where I bought my Ferrari

just to look at cars. So just to give you the context, you're driving around in a lot where this car is a million, this car is 100K, this is 500K, you know how careful you gotta be parking that bitch you're like I'm not taking no chances I'm not hitting a McLaren there was a co-insick dealership

in that lot like I'm not hitting anything where this must have been out Westlake area or something no it's in Atlanta oh it's Atlanta yeah it was like it was it was a Rolls Royce dealership attached to a Lambo dealership attached to a Coencec dealership attached to an Aston Martin dealership and then they also had a bunch of used cars so Ferraris Porsches whatever else fuck you wanted

so like I parked where there was no cars I don't like taking that risk this nigga decides to hit my car and I'm mind-blown so that's the context I'm like damn you don't even want to be careful in this parking lot seriously bruh I let him go anyway

like it was a ding it might be a few thousand dollars to fix and he like he was calling his mom panicking he was like 22 23 oh shit and like he was in a beater so like I know what that was like so like I just needed to get my anger out on him in that moment feel me I came out on time

and as soon as he hit my car I walked out with my phone like this I recorded the damages. He came out to carry. I recorded the damage. What's your name? And I caught on camera. He was like,

it was my fault. I know it was my fault. I was my fault. I was like, I got that, nigga. So if I wanted to be an asshole, I could 360 slam dunk him in court, but I just let him go. It is what it is.

Nah, that's, I guess it depends on the person. But it's, I guess it's like if someone that you know could take advantage of you and someone keeps taking advantage of you and you can get them back. Yeah, if it's repetitive, I'd probably feel it away. Now, if he hit another one in my car, is silver for him.

He goes down the street? Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's crazy. My brain started thinking of content. I was like, bro, I should invite him over and have him run through a driving school. I think he'd be down to do it. Damn, you got all his info.

You can him for that. Yeah, I was going to, but I never ended up doing it. So I might still do it. I don't know. Do you like doing podcasts? Do you just like, you like, because almost like live stream is just like a really fucking long podcast. Yeah, but like there's a chat.

So it doesn't feel too long. I don't say I don't even realize I'm live until five hours in time just fucking flies but at the five hour mark I always think like damn how long's it been and it's always five hours so what do you think are I've asked a bunch of streamers this kind of stuff I've had them on the pod but what do you think are the most important things to really build an audience um you got to be consistent and then you have to be really good on other platforms primarily short forum reels TikTok shorts yeah it's all clips now yeah and and not just that like you have to like people People can't just see your clips. They have to see your clips and want to go to the Twitch. You get what I'm saying? The best example in modern history is when speed was, when speed first blew up, do you remember how he did it? He was.

Renaldo stuff? Nah, this is pre-Rinaldo. Pre-Rinaldo. He was playing NBA 2K. He was also a 2K YouTuber. It's crazy how deep it goes. But he was getting sub to and he almost, he was about to hit a milestone and everybody unsubbed.

And he's like, stop unsubbing. Everybody stop unsubbing. And the clip went crazy, but it wasn't just... They did that again recently. Yeah. To deal with him every time now. But at the time, people were like, this is hilarious. He was about to hit a milestone.

His chat trolled him. Great clip. But the clip made people want to go to the stream. Yeah. So he went from like a few hundred thousand subs to like in a few days hit a meal. Like it was like if you were in the space at the time, you knew it was happening because of everybody was watching him at the time. Like who the fuck is this new guy and why is everybody talking?

talking about him. So, like, his chat kept trolling him. So, like, we can get a clip on this podcast, but how do I explain it? Like, it has to inspire them to want to go there. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. So, like, the content of the clip has to be like, oh, I want to see more of this. Yes. So, like, if, for example, I'm doing a stream and I'm, let's say the clip is I break a monitor, right? Interesting clip. Maybe I went, got really angry rage clip. But if the next thing I say is, Yo, bro, y'all, like, next dream, I'm going to have to try really hard to not break a monitor. Now they're thinking, like, yo, I got to go to see if he breaks a monitor.

So you just made the clip way more valuable. So, like, that's, you have to figure out that. And then once you get that, you're going to be able to convert all the short-form people to long-form people. And then once you do that, bro, you're cooking. You're good. Yeah. So it's got the hook, but the organic hook. Yeah.

also coupled with the content that is like viral in nature. Yeah, you have to spend a little bit of time in the space to get a sense of like what is going to work and what's not going to work. And then you've got to study, but you got to be a student in the game. If you're not studying, you're cooked. How do you think, yeah, especially as it's evolved.

Like if you're not on it as it grows or as it goes in a different direction, like specifically like, I mean, I was in a, I'm fucking 35, been doing this shit for like 15 years. So if you're not watching or if you're not on like the pulse of like what's what's like the content that people are really watching now or like the platforms that people are on it's like you're just you do get over absolutely yeah it changes so next year's gonna be very different so the advice will change but like right now that's the best thing you

could do and anybody could do that you can I would say don't even worry too much about long form until you have short form figured out because it'll be good experience but you won't see growth like YouTube is tough it's a tough game you can crack it if you have enough experience and you studied enough, Twitch is damn near fucking impossible without the help of short form and other platforms. Like streaming is very tough

if people don't. So like you could stream and then like let's say this is a good example. Just because people know who you are doesn't mean they're going to show up to your stream. For sure. Like I like I know,

I don't want to give names because I don't want to take shots to nobody, but there's like very famous celebrities that will stream on Twitch and get like 500 viewers. Yeah. But like on their IG, they'll get like 800,000 likes

per infeed so like it doesn't mean just because people know who you are they're going to show up to the stream you you have to give him a reason and they have to also know to expect you you feel me so whether it's turning notice on or they know every day at 8 p.m. he goes live like that helps so like yeah there's some strategy that goes into it for sure people don't like completely recognize so how do you convert like a large like if you're a large on instagram how do you convert it you just just to the only people know you're there? Or the content that you post almost has to be indicative with the fact that you're streaming somewhere.

I would say you have to get good at reels if you're large on Instagram, like really good. Like capturing people's attention, good hook, and then being able to- But as reels from your stream? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's a few streamers that do that really well.

Ron is a good example. Yeah. He posts a lot on his IG and it's a lot of stuff that happens on stream. So when you see it on IG, it makes you want to go to a stream. So like, you got to get creative. But like, that's what studying is.

the only reason I know that is because I see what everyone's doing, what's working and what's not working. So that will inform your decision a lot. Because I've noticed it's weird, man, like followers don't mean as much as they used to. It's almost like, I don't, because it's like, if you've been doing it for 15 years, someone that followed you 15 years ago, the odds they're still watching to this day. It's not high. Yeah. So you have to keep getting new viewers too. Yeah. But like, you know, realistically, even the way you consume content, like, you don't watch or do the same thing forever. Fuck no. So like, the content you've done has changed in a lot of ways over the years as well. So you just have to find ways to appeal to different audiences

and then find ways to also keep your existing audience really happy with the content you do. It's a nice, it's a tough balance, but that's like a future problem. Most people just starting out, you don't even need to think about that. Yeah. But like once you've been in the game for a while, those are the type of thoughts you need to start having. Yeah. Yeah. So did, did anyone teach you how to be good at any of this stuff? Or you just figured it all. I just threw your experience. No, I just learn, bro. Yeah. Yeah, I talk to people. I learned that like, I'm still learning to this day. I realized, I used to think I was a whiteboard guy, but now I learned, like, I'm a really collaborative thinker. So I'll think better bouncing ideas off

other people. Yeah. You don't even really have to say nothing. I'll just talk. And sometimes I'll land on some fire shit. And then, but like, I know I don't know everything. So I'll ask for your opinion. Your opinion, I might be like, no, you're wrong. Or I might think, huh, that's interesting. I never thought about it that way. So, like, you don't know, we don't know how to do any of this. There's no blueprint. Yeah. You don't, like, even, even, like, even, even, like how do you know when the next hire is supposed to be there's no blueprint you don't know if you need a creative guy you need someone to help run ops you don't know if you need an assistant there's no one telling you when you run your own shit when it makes sense for you to do anything

you dead ass just have to start trying shit so like experience helps but also i think having friends helps because if i don't know maybe i can ask you and see like hey do you have an assistant do you feel like when do you feel like it's necessary and that might help me make my decision. So like, some of the roles I've created and the jobs I've tried, I just fucking took shots in the dark. And most of the time they work out, sometimes it doesn't work out. But that's okay. Like, as long as, like, you're figuring it out. Like, it's not like rap where you know what you have to do to succeed. There's a fucking blueprint for that. Yeah. It's not like real estate. It's not like content's different in that you can see what other people have done,

but there's no one way to blow up. Yeah. And it's constantly. changing all the time like forever changing so stressful you remember four years ago we thought like shorts and like we thought that was going to take over the world but then the short platforms started trying to become long form platforms and doing it unsuccessfully in the long form platforms try to become short platforms and largely have done it unsuccessfully I don't even know if they know what they're doing but yeah yeah but like yeah so like as they're learning and like as things change you got to keep up with it. Yeah.

And it's weird. Like when a new future drops, usually that's the best time to do shit. Do you remember back in a day when they first dropped 4K on YouTube? If you dropped a 4K YouTube video, they promoted your shit to everybody. Crazy views.

But like back then, niggas didn't even have 4K cameras. Yeah. So I knew people that learned quick because they studied, rendered their video in 4K, even though you shot in 1080P, just upskilled the shit

and it got promoted to way more people. Just the file recognizes. Exactly. But the only reason they would have known that was because they were in tune, they were studying. So, like, some people don't do that and you'll miss all the opportunities along the way. Yeah, literally. You miss the wave.

That's for sure. Are there any waves you feel like you've missed? Nah, not missed. There's a lot of waves I just didn't participate in. Like, oh, the one wave I think I missed was all the fucking streaming deals everybody was getting. Yo, we was on a, I was on a precipice of getting a couple fucking deals. And they

fell through last minute. I was like, oh. Like for which company? Like the whole kick thing? Nah, I never got a serious offer from kick Because most of the kick deals I know Involved gambling or had gambling options There was a few people that I know there was an exception Because they just had a ton of motion But most of them did involve like the steak shit

And I ain't want to do that Got it But like you know YouTube was throwing deals at one point Twitch was throwing deals Rumble was throwing Facebook I did have a Facebook deal So I got paid a few hundred thousand to stream on Facebook Like early days

So a few hundred thousand changed my fucking life Um, but like when people were throwing around millions, I'm like, bro, I want one of them with, I want one of the millions, bro. I want one of the millions, man. Why didn't it work out? I just wasn't, um, at the time, I just didn't have the, like, I didn't have the stopping power to afford, like, I wasn't in the conversation with like Nick Merck's and the Valky raise and the people that were getting those deals at the time.

Yeah. So like, you know, you just had to work up to it. You just had to know where you're at and then, you know, you'd be, you'd be in those conversations now, though, for sure. more so they don't do them anymore so i wouldn't know for real but like um yeah like now i'm being treated way more way more seriously as a streamer which is dope um but yeah like i don't know it shit happens like i don't get mad that's maybe i did that i felt like i missed out on that but generally speaking like there's hell of waves that come and go like some of them like i just

don't want to be part of like that's not for me but that's for somebody it's just not for me i get the gambling thing you're not about it yeah you seem like you have strong laurels Yeah, I try to. But the gambling thing is just like, it's scary, bro. I went to school in Niagara. Niagara is a gambling town. It's like a little mini-Vegas, just more depressing. And I would sometimes go into the casino and 3 a.m., just depressed, 60-year-old. I don't even know where they're drawing this money from, just like holes in their shirt, just hitting the slots, hitting the slots. And it scared me. I was like, bro, I don't want to be like that. And so I never started. I never started. I never started. started and like I don't want to be the reason someone else starts low key so that's my reason I get it it's so fun it's just so and I know it's not the best thing I get why people want to do it is different types of people though like you might be able to control it you feel me yeah you might be able to play a high stakes game or anything blackjack whatever and control it but like a different nigger might not yeah feel me and I don't want to find out I'm the the person that might not be able to

well you sound like you got the tentities of the food thing so I don't yeah like especially when You got bread, bro. You could lose a lot. Oh, he could lose everything. Yeah. You could lose it all. Yeah. So I don't, and, like, even I fucking saw on Twitter the other day.

I don't know how true it is, but XQ says, excuse he lost like $100 million. If, like, I'm like, God damn, bro. Like, I'm sure he made like 80 million so the net was 20 or something like that. But that's scary. That's really scary. I would never want to lose that much money. Yeah. I think like, if it was a skill thing, like, like, I low-key think,

poker is the most fun gambling thing because like it's probably more skilled than like roulette's random blackjack you can use some like there's skill involved in blackjack but i think poker you could really if you're if you got a good face and you're smart like you could win kind of consistently poker blackjack yeah that's how i see it too but i yeah i just i don't like going in casinos though i did ask get depressed a little bit really Vegas is the only place i can go into a casino and not get depressed. Oh yeah. Well, you can't go. I'm talking about like a little casino, some random spot. I can't go there. Yeah. Or like, yeah, they got little casino towns around in Toronto is not illegal. You got commerce over here. Oh, I didn't even know. I couldn't go there. Is it depressing?

It's just because it's not, it's exactly that I get that mindset. It's like not Vegas. It's like, it's almost makes you feel like, what are we doing here? Even though I know what we're doing here. Like, what are you doing here? And like nowadays, you know, you had to walk in. You can just do it online. So it's crazier. Imagine like, imagine you're just scrolling on. YouTube and you get an urge to gamble. Oh, fuck no. But that's, I always say the gambling, it has to be money. You have to only play with money. You've already accepted as gone. Yeah, I like the way Ninja does it. I don't know if you saw the clip, but he said, like, he has a 10,000 a month allowance or something like that. And so, like, after that, it doesn't matter

how much he's won or lost and he usually lose it all. He can't touch no more money. Yeah. So, like, having some guard rails to help make it safer. But, like, just think about what I just said like this the fact that you even have to have guard rails means like like you feel me like maybe you shouldn't be doing the shit in the first place yeah but it but it's like anything else it's like it's it's different obviously but it's the same thing as like I've made the the the analogy of oh if I'm going to go to like Disneyland or if I'm going to go to I'm going to spend money on this trip you know the money's gone you have to just look at it the same exact way do you gamble on sports yeah gamble on everything so like I know when you're watching the team

you gambled on, you're not happy. You're stressed and anxious. But it's fucked up to say that's kind of why it's fun. Okay, that means you play fantasy sports too. Yeah, you just, you enjoy, like, you enjoy the, like, the educated guess and then seeing how it goes.

So I used to play fantasy sports early days back when it was first starting, especially NFL, but also NBA. And it may, I was unhappy watching game. I'm like, bro, if this nigga Kyle Larry doesn't shoot a three-pointer right now because like I was one three-pointer away from beating my foe like I wasn't happy I'm like bro this nigga Derek Rose gets another turnover like I was I was like how to fuck did he shoot six for 11 from the free throw like I was panicking every night when I would

review the scores I'm like bro this is not I'm not having fun no more bro this has turned into something else so I stop but I feel like I I feel like it'd be even more heightened when there's actual money online more heightened but that's why I can't imagine that It's fun. I can't imagine that, bro. But it just has to be, it's like, if you paid to go watch this game, let's say you bought $2,000 seats, right, $5,000, whatever, $1,000 seats, it's the same thing. I'm paying, whatever money I put in, I know that I'm paying to, this is the experience.

If I win, I win. It's hard to look at it like that always. Do you get a rush when you do it? Yeah, because you could win. Yeah, that's crazy. If not, it's money gone, right? That's what it is. It's money gone.

So there's a better. That's an interesting way to look at it because I don't think you can compare it to an experience because you don't like you're getting a rush but you're not getting an experience the way you would if you actually want to the game well but it's like if i'm going to say we're going to go skydiving it costs you $2,000 to go skydiving you put $2,000 on a game it's still a rush i'm not saying like hey one's better than the other i'm just saying like do you remember your rushes like you know back back in 2021 i had this one win look i had this one loss like you realistically like yeah i remember i remember moments if i remember moments where i lost like 20k i have so many

YouTube video and it was a terrible feeling. So, okay, let's say, let's say, let's say you spent an obnoxious amount of money gambling for the experience. In 50 years, how would you look back at that time? Do you feel like it would be time you spent wisely, like moments and experiences you enjoyed because of the rush you got or would you feel like you could have used it better? But that, I don't know, right? I can't speak on what I would feel like in 50 years, but that's like, I could ask you the same question. You took a girl to a thousand dollar dinner. in 50 years, you look back on that, was it a good decision or a bad decision? It's like, who knows?

Yeah, that's fascinating. I don't honestly, like, none of my friends really gamble at all, really, to be honest with you. So, like, I really wouldn't know. I'm just asking because I'm curious. Yeah, yeah. I just think, like, it's just like it could, it's not like every other experience because there's a lot more at stake.

But then there's not because, like, it's the same thing. Like I said, if you paid $2,000 to go to go skydive, it's an experience, of course. You experience it? I don't like feeling stressed and anxious, bro. Me neither. Yeah, bro. But there's that little piece that goes like, but you could have that giant moment. You're like, I got it and you win.

You know what I'm saying? So that's the gamble, right? So like, here's the reason. So let's say, I'm a huge Raptors fan. If the Raptors lose a game, I have the power in my brain to pretend like it never mattered. Fuck it, bro. It don't matter anyway. I'll cope.

I'll come up with a reason. Now, if I lost a thousand on the Raptors game, I can't pretend. like it didn't matter i lost the man i'm gonna literally think about that shit like fuck like i gotta get a band now got i lost a band you feel me now i feel like for rich people it's not like the end in the world but like i think for broke niggas bro well of course you got like for broke niggas they can't be doing the shit no no that's the thing like you you you can only gamble what you're so if you gamble you have to say it's gone so if you're broke and that's your last thousand dollars you just ruin your life yeah that's how i think about my wagers anytime i wager somebody i just

assume I lost and then try my best to win. But like that's, I feel like that's a little different for me because, first of all, I went almost all of them nowadays, but also, I'm in control. Like, I'm playing a game. Yeah. You know, it's a game I'm good at or whatever. It's like if you challenge your friend to like, you know, who could. Wagers on what games are you talking about?

Like anything, bro. Like, so I do a lot of game and gauntlets. So like, let's say you tell me you're a better gamer than me, congratulations. I just challenge you to a gauntlet. We'll pick five games across five genres, best of five. and randomize the order, let's go. And so, like, I did one verse... I want to take that challenge.

Oh, you would lose. You would lose. But I did my first one versus Kai, and the punishment was we can send the other person to wherever I wanted. So I sent him to the Bronx. And so for a week, he went to the Bronx. He went back in his red room that people, like, first remembered when he streamed, and he did streams there.

Oh, that's why he was doing with streams there? Yeah, because he lost. Oh, shit. I had no idea. Yeah. So then I did another one. versus Sinha, because she said she was a better gamer than me. I flooded, I flooded both to them, 3-0, both.

And then Sennett, I think it was gifted subs, so she had to gift me a fuck ton of subs. Can we do this with shooters? Yeah, we can. But, like, if, then you have to say, then your claim has to be that you're a better shooter than me. It can't be gamer, because then I'm going to challenge you to fighting games, racing games.

Okay. Yeah. What games do you play? I played all of them. Like, CSGO? That one I haven't played as much, but I played it enough to know that I could beat you at it, yeah. Okay.

Like, I think one week warm-up, like, I could probably win, but... On CSGO? In any game. But, like, you know, it could be Rainbow 6 or Apex Legends. No, Halo, Halo, any controller game I get cooked. I'm Mouse and Keys. Okay. Yeah.

And also, I grew up on PlayStation, so... Okay. I only played Halo at my friend's house. I was pretty ass. Damn. No, I played it all. Yeah. That's good.

I went back in my Wager v. Inna, one of the games we played was Golden Eye. So we booted up to N-64. we played Golden Eye. That was really fun. How old were you when that came out? You were some of the baby. No, I didn't play when it came out.

But my friend, I had a cousin, four houses down. He had it. I played when that bitch came out. See? Yeah. I didn't have an N64. I had a PS1. I had a PS1.

That was the first multiplayer ever. Did you know that? No, I think that. I think it was. I could have swore it was Quake, but you might be right. I think, I think Quake was a shooter, but I don't know if you can go and jump in versus the yeah you i'll take your word for it because yeah i could be you got me questioning it

now but i think it's the first uh like you could both jump in and shoot each other that's far that's place queen shit changed the game it's also weird like how it's completely gone now it's just like now you have to have your own and i'm a pv bro i've been telling these devs bro yougisoft i'm not buying assassins creed if you don't put pvp in that bitch stop selling games without pvp yeah there was an era when cod and battlefield were having their toe to toe see that's yo that legacy thing most people if you ask a bot on the street right now everybody knows call duty nobody knows battlefield yeah if you were around gaming back then everybody knows that was the one v1 cod was like the top dog yeah but like the underrated they had that

frostbite engine the destructive environments like the more realistic gun fights so but anyway point is damn i lost the point what was i saying well you were talking about i think it was legacy of the games being like oh yeah so like nobody remembers the battlefield not nobody but like you got to be a gamer now to know what battlefield was and i remember so quick i know i don't even know if they still make them i'm a little out the loop on what they still do i don't even know either yeah do you remember socom of course that was my favorite franchise of all time it is my favorite franchise of all time yeah mine's halo yeah so we were foes though and people socom legacy is now in the gutter people still remember Halo, but Socom was the PlayStation antithesis to Xbox Halo at the time.

But Halo flop too, though, man. No. They did. No, they fell off for sure. Everyone remembers it, for sure, but they completely ruin that fucking game. I agree, but you could still go outside, hey, do you know what Halo is? Of course. Feel me the same thing?

Well, why do you think that happened, though? I don't know. I actually don't know how that happens, I'll be honest. But Socom is like, it's so near and dear to my heart. I was there. I remember playing a SOCOM 4 beta and the community was so pissed. They said this shit is ass.

Let's boycott it. And then we did. And then they just said, Sony said, I bet and dismantled the whole company. And we never got another SOCOM. So that taught me a lesson in that you could boycott some shit if you want,

but be willing to lose it. Because businesses still got to make money, man. Fuck. So on that topic, have you made money that you've never, thought you'd make before at this point in your life yeah i probably made no cap i think ever since i was 17 i've been doubling my money damn yeah it's crazy damn bro have you ever taken any big

ls financially nah the biggest i probably take is on my condo like i bought it for like 850 just to see if i'd enjoy living in a high rise yeah and then like if i want to sell it now it's probably can sell for like 750 715 where i it's in Atlanta Atlanta yeah it's in Atlanta So, like, you know, that's the biggest L. But that's a tiny L. I did my marathon there and, like, low-key, like, I made my money back. So even if I end up selling it, I might lose a little bit on closing costs. But I like taking chances and experiencing things.

So, like, just so now I know what the experience of living in a building is going to be like. And the answer for those wondering is you have to have motion to live in a building. This is going to sound crazy. But there are some celebrities to live in the building that could do whatever they want. And then if they, the people in the concierge that know me, Bro, I might be able to build C4 in front of a camera and they wouldn't give a fuck. Yeah, but if they don't know you,

you got to follow every rule. So it depends on the shift. Bro, that reminds me when I lived in Miami with Steve will do it at the SLS. It was like he, because he would give out so much money to all the random, like, employees or front desk. So whenever you came there, so yeah, go right up. I didn't have my name on the thing or whatever.

But they hire someone new and it'd be like, oh, what should? And I'm checking in every single time to go up until that guy's like, oh, wait, he is good. I get exactly what you're saying. If you're not, if you, I know, I know the people in my building that have motion and I know what they get away with, bro. And I know I don't have all of it. There's a few people in there that, let me, you know, they're cool, whatever.

And there's a couple others that would give me hassles. And I don't like that shit. So now you got a house. Yeah, one time I was leaving and I'm like, bro, I'm in a rush trying to get back to the A&P house. And they're like, oh, we need the access code for your room. It's a fire safety hazard. And I'm like, I'll get my assistant to send. it to you and then they said oh could we do it right now i said i have somewhere to be sir if you

could please and they said but we're about to it's going to be a fine starting tomorrow i said then find me nigger i got somewhere to be don't hold me up bitch this is not the time for something like this yeah he doesn't know what i'm dealing with it could be a fucking emergency but i'll eat the fine gang just like you could have been going to the hospital they don't know but like he he didn't know me at all didn't give a fuck who i was whatever fair like he was just enforcing the rules but just find me bro yeah i don't what it's gonna be 30 dollars okay I'll survive gang

how do I tell you I'll survive bro no so like but but now I know a couple of things I like in buildings one if the elevator

goes straight to your room this is this is luxury see that's nice you don't have to worry about nobody in your hole you don't have to worry about shit

this shit goes straight up to your room but that costs like five million dollars so realistically we're not there okay parking spots you don't

want a shit parking spot where you got to do six loops like this. They gave me one parking spot in the very bottom. I hate it. I have to take two elevators to get up to my thing. And they gave me one good parking spot, but it's a little cramp. So I wouldn't want to park any of my good cars there. So like, I learned that. So, you know, I just like trying shit. So I'm learning lessons and, you know, I think I'm more of a house person. Like, yeah, I prefer a nice house than a good penthouse or a condo. But, you know, I learned the lesson now. I got the experience. And so, like, that's probably my biggest L. And I might take an L on the Ferrari, too.

I think just in terms of, like, what it's done for me on social media has been fucking great. But Uzi recognized you on that. Bro, everybody, every time I go outside, bro, I lost, I went to Venice Beach with the professor, probably had my worst basketball performance at all time. I was sad on stream.

They were playing the sad music. I was sulking. A guy walks up to me and goes, agent, it's going to be okay. You have a Ferrari. It's true. It's fucking true. Like, what do you say?

You're like, you're right. I did that. I told him you right, gang. Like, I don't know what else to say. So, like, yeah, so the fry I might end up losing. Like, I probably, I don't sell my car. So technically I don't lose anything. But, you know, if I was to sell it, I'd probably lose like $50,000 or $100,000 on it.

Yeah, gain memories. Exactly, man. That's my first time having a crazy whip. Like, I've had some dope whips, but I've never had a crazy whip. Yeah, I get you. Would you ever live in L.A.? You got a water? Yeah.

more water? Thank you. Appreciate it. Would you ever live in LA full time? Probably, maybe at some point in my life, but it's hard to answer that question until I try the rest of the world. I really think, thank you so much, I really think that I would enjoy living anywhere. If A&P told me, we need your talents in Switzerland. I'm in Switzerland, bro. You don't have to ask me twice. Switzerland's dope, though. Yeah, like, you've been? I really want to go. That's my top spot right now. Like, it's, it just looks like a fucking, it's like Tyler. I remember went to Thailand. It's like, it looks That's my second top spot. They both look like fairy tale.

What? Okay, good. That's what I like to hear. Because I want to go to both. Those are my two top destinations right now. Crazy. Okay, cool. But, like, yeah, I think, you know, I want to try that.

Like, I want to try living places, not just visiting. Like, I want to, I want to spend fucking six months in UAE and then eight months in Australia. And you think you're still streaming through all this? I don't know what I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how this is going to happen. I'll be honest. Like, but you just want to do that.

Yeah, but I would like to do that. that. Like, if I could do whatever I wanted with no consequence, my preference would be to bounce around the world and try shit. Spend a few months in Brazil, spend like eight months in Paris. I just want to do random shit. I never see. You sound like you've been everywhere. Paris is dirty. Yeah, I've been in a lot of places. I'm older. I'm older. I'm older. But, like, those are all places I want to go to. I really haven't been nowhere except like everywhere in America, Canada, London, and Ethiopia. The food, the best part about traveling is like seeing things that you haven't seen in food so what if you have a problem with the food i don't know

it's gonna be too good bro yeah that might no american food is amazing so loki it's kind of hard to go somewhere and get better food i'll be honest i love american food so much bro the food in italy the best food you've ever had oh my god i swear to god i think my favorite spot so far has been hawaii loki hawaii seafood was insane insane so like yeah yeah italy does sound like it has The best food ever. I had some great tacos when I went to Mexico, too. What part of Mexico? I went to Cancun.

But then, like, I left Cancun. Everyone's like, don't do it, Agent. And I just started driving around. I just started driving around, like, a few hours this way, see what I find, shit like that. Yeah. I survived. Yeah, you're fine. Mexico City is dope.

You've been there? No, because everyone told me not to go. No, no. They was like, don't go, Agent. It's not safe. No, Mexico City is good. Okay, I want to try that day. Yeah, Mexico City's cool.

That's dope. Around Cancuncun. is a little sketchy as they described like if you go out of but you're good though obviously you're fun yeah I'm sure I'll be okay bro at the end of the day man I wasn't it didn't help I had like a bright red Jeep gladiator when it first came out they knew damn well as a fucking American in that car oh yeah they saw it yeah get this guy nah it's not even like that they're not even you got to like get into some shit to get into some shit yeah yeah yeah I like I don't let people scare me out of good experiences well dude yeah so that's that's that's that's

something that I mean the more that I've traveled like I went to Nicaragua recently and I remember telling my mom going to Nicaragua she was like oh be careful she sent me like a screenshot of like what Google says well these are the nicest fucking people like no issue nothing but I was like they said like right now if you get a visa to go to um anywhere in Africa mostly but like Ethiopia is going to say the travel tourism board is going to say danger there is definitely some dangerous parts I'll be honest but like no cap I didn't have to bribe nobody think about what I just said. I was driving around everywhere in Ethiopia.

Hours. I was in a car the whole time. I hit the Southwest. I was in Addis. I was in Hareda. I was in De dewa. Like, we hit everywhere and didn't have to bribe nobody. Because usually, like, sometimes when you drive around, they'll be like... They'll just stop you. Yeah, like, give me fucking 10 United States dollars now.

But like, the people were amazing. We pulled up on random tribal people and they were painting our faces and they would have guns and spears and shit, but they wouldn't... It was no aggression. Yeah. If anything, they were a little defensive. Like, what the fuck are you doing here in our town? Because it's not the big places, so they know everybody. So, like, everyone told me not to do that. Even when I landed Ethiopia, first day I went to Ethiopia, I was with my family.

Family's really deep. No cap. I probably have, like, millions of uncles and aunts and cousins. So no cap, no cap. We're deep, bro. Like, each one of each, my mom's side, she has like six brothers, six sisters. My dad is deep, too. And then all their families is deep. So I dead ass have like hundreds of cousins. So like I pulled up on my family and even they were like, good luck, bro. You might not come back. I'm like, yo, why are y'all saying that? Y'all, you guys literally live here. Why are you telling me that? But we were fine. The whole trip, it was so smooth, bro. And so like, I was like, but the same thing, though, like if I want to go to, I don't know, Columbia, they can say watch out. Yeah, there is some real dangers you should for sure watch out for. My chat calls me

dumb when I tell them this, but I want to experience life. Like, I'm not going to be a dumb ass. But, like, I want to try shit. I'm not going to not try just because you're afraid of a story you heard or some. Most of the time, dumb shit happens to people is because they got into dumb shit. So how long, how long have you taken breaks for? Do you take breaks? Like, since you started streaming. Sorry.

No, you're good. How long? I never took a break in my life. Was that sinner? No, no, no. Does you smile? Like, who got you smiling like that? I always smile when I pick up my text.

Oh, nice. Hell yeah. Was it Duke? It was probably Duke? right? Nah, this is someone you don't know. Okay.

Nigger, why'd you assume Duke? Like, this is the way you're smiling, bro. No, I always smile when I pick up texts.

Yeah, when it's Duke. No, in general, like, if you text me, I'll be like, oh,

yeah, yeah, Bradley Burns so I can come in. So if a neighbor was watching me on my phone, they'd be like, who the fuck is that nigg is smiling at?

I don't know. This is my default. reaction those questions are god damn um have you ever taken like a break since you didn't you no no breaks no breaks i'm a little like that's what i was saying i kind of like the way my brain missed i saw you missed by the way i noticed it so you look right away too yeah i watch you fuck i was like not getting out of this one yeah no i don't like taking breaks my break no cap sometimes i'll get really exhausted mentally like i'll happen like maybe once every four months and i'll watch a netflix episode of some shit um i'm interested in by the second

episode sometimes by the third episode i'll be like what the fuck am i doing and i'll get up and just get back to work but that's enough for me like i get it i don't need much no cap i don't need much so i don't need vacations i don't need time off like like i'm not working a slave shift in the cotton fields I'm making videos and it's super satisfying, it's super fulfilling, and like the challenge as a person who loves to solve problems, I'm like obsessed with it. So like I don't need to take breaks. Now if I was doing something I didn't enjoy, I could probably see myself wanting to take breaks from time of time, but I just love it so much that like I don't feel a need. I get why the problem solving brain loves it so much because it's like every day you have to figure it out. Yeah. And then it's

changing every couple weeks. It's gotten a little different. It makes sense. Yeah. And it It'll never stop. Like, I got, I'll get 10 new problems today. One of them might be an emergency. I just got a text today. I'm buying a house for my parents in Toronto. I just told them two days ago, they told me we're going to wait two months. I said, okay, I look at this text, and they're like, sent the offer for this house to review and sign.

So I don't know what changed in two days from we'll wait two months to let's put an offer on this house right now. Who knows? That's huge, though, man. Yeah, that's cool. So, like, you know, that's, that's its own little mini problem. And then, like, when I say a problem, it doesn't have to be a negative thing. It's just something that needs to be solved. Yeah.

Feel me? Like, you had a problem with your vertigo. We solved it. Look at me and you. Look at like, look at this. Yeah. And sometimes it's like an actual emergency. And those ones are a little bit more stressful.

But, um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like once you get really good at dealing with shit, you become so useful to the people around you. Yeah. So, like, I'm just trying to be useful. Who's most useful to you? And I don't mean just obviously using someone, but who in your life is like, it's hard. I'd say like, I don't like using people, though.

That's the weird part. I don't mean using that. No, no, no. I don't even mean in that sense either. I just mean, like, I don't like to ask too much from people. So, like, the right answer is going to be the team I work closest with, like, in terms of work. But if you exclude work from it, probably will lead. He's my cousin.

He moved down here with me. have you got twin visas and um like i do whatever with him like the only reason i'm still on a visa now is because his is attached to mine because i can get a green card when i'm so sorry i thought the cap was on there yeah you're good you know your couch might be waterproof by the way yeah yeah we both spilled huh let me go ahead that's so fucking point no you're all good holy shit well so you you're stuck to how does it what does a twin visa work like you can't So, like, I have a, I have a visa, but his visa is attached to my visa. So if I get a green card, my visa disappears.

And so he won't have a legal right to be here. So we're getting him his separate visa because he's qualified now. He'd be the same if he did a crime and you're a criminal? Yeah, he'd be cooked. No, but you would be cooked too. Yeah, I'd also be cooked. But he'd be cooked in association. Got it, got it.

So, yeah. And the fucked up part is you do get way better rates as a permanent resident. For those who don't know, visa is temporary residence. So, like, you know, mine, I got to renew it every three years. And then a green card is permanent residence. You renew that every 20 years. But, like, you really only need one of those because at the eight, nine year mark, you could get citizenship. So, like, once you get a green card, you're good for life, basically.

You can't vote in shit yet until you're a citizen, but you, they treat you like an American. When you go into government buildings, they don't call you a temporary alien. They did ask me an alien, so. from from toronto yeah they dad's like they're like the the legal term for a person that's foreign is alien it's weird it's okay little weird it is kind of weird just call me foreign right or canadian yeah just we don't have to call me an alien man Canadian but yeah so um I say we'll lead like I know I know like we'll leave would do whatever so like um you know no matter what it is it could be a random request like yo I really want

this thing from like this place across the world like who did as go across the world just to grab me that thing wow yeah he's amazing a friend he's fucking the best yeah yeah don't you vibe any friends like that yeah we grew up together though like so will lead was one of the only homes my mom would let me sleep over at so we spent a lot of time and it was so it's weird will lead spent a lot of time with my brother and i spent a lot of time with will lead's brother because our personalities were more match. Me and Waleed are located the opposite. Willee will go out more. He's a lot more social. I like to stay inside. I don't like talking to people too much. And then Waleed's brothers like that, I don't know to explain it. But like, Waleed's my age and my brother's

brother's age. But we always used to spend more time with the opposite. But we had so much love for each other. We spent so much time around each other. So I did ask Waleed my first ever higher. I said, I don't know what I'm doing, but I think I need an editor for my video so I could saved some time bro he quit best by the next day started editing for me is he still your editor he was for a while not anymore now he does a lot more stuff with a mp and duke and shit like that got you but like you know he's the he's the one person that like has the ultimate cheat code like he could dead ass say like yo i need 500 000 and i'd be like okay so like so he's real yeah he's the best damn and so you have any other personal friends like that or yeah a lot of my other close friends

are in Toronto and then like now like the A&P guys are really close friends too we spend so much time like with each other and shit like that um but like yeah my circle's not that big like I don't have too many people that I rely on and like I also don't talk to nobody so like I don't like letting people in in general so there's no point of having yeah a ton of friends what about what about family is your family like shock that's what you're doing not shocked they honestly like don't care that much but like they're supportive though like it's so wholesome the only reason I even ever got into YouTube was because I loved cameras. So and the only reason I ever loved cameras because one time I was in Arizona, we were spending time at my cousin's house for the month

and we were going to the Grand Canyon. So we stopped over at this convenience store and I saw this like Kodak camera. I begged my mom to buy it. Usually she says no when I beg her to buy chocolates or dumb stuff like in stores that I know I'm not going to use tomorrow. But that day she said yes. So as soon as I got out, I learned how to use the camera. I'm learning. I'm like, oh, my God, my first camera. I got me your first camera. You know, you shoot nine photos on it and it's dead. That's how they work back in the day. So it was like a $10 camera you buy at the store. And I took this photo of my mom and my cousin. And it was just a generic photo. At the time, you can't even see the photo. You have to go to Walmart and get

him like printed. Yeah. So like you, I didn't even know what it looked like. So, but my mom was like, yo that's the best photo i ever seen and i'm like oh my god and she she started gassing me like i was like the michael angelo of photos and so like i started feeling so good about like my ability to take photos i was taking photos of everything throughout the day like mom look at this one mom look at this one because they had like a playback thing on it so um damn but i remember these days so um and then you so we went to print him out after at the end of the day and like it felt the whole trip felt so complete. And I found like this new passion of mine, which was now cameras. The photos sucked. She gassed you. She just gassed you. The photos were

fucking awful. I was like nine years old. I didn't know what I was doing. But from that day moving forward, my goal was to be able to afford one. So I did I save up money each Eid, each birthday, whatever, until I could finally get $400 after a few years. And I bought my first camera. I brought it everywhere with me. We're going to hoop with the bros down the street. I'm bringing my camera. You feel me? Like, yeah, like, I just, I just was obsessed and I got in high school and then they had this one class called Communications and they had a cinema camera in that bitch. The amount of times I rented that cinema camera was crazy. I joined film competitions, but I was doing whatever they would let me do with that camera because I just enjoyed it so much.

What did you like about it, just what it was able to do? Yeah, I just loved, I just, the idea of capturing a moment was so dope to me. And, like, we, we kind of take it for for granted now with how much cameras we have around us. I'll 40 of these. But it is truly special that you could remember every feeling you had in a place in time with a picture. And so, like, I loved being able to do that. And now everywhere I go, like, if I feel good, I'll dead ass pull out my phone and

take a picture of the place I felt good. And when I'm scrolling through my phone gallery, like my photo gallery, I'll be like, damn i remember this i remember this day and it makes me feel good it makes the experiences i had feel like they didn't end yeah like it lasts longer yeah and that's dope to me yeah that's really cool yeah damn that's cool as fuck yeah bro how you got really got into it off that and like so it was a good combo so i love cameras and then i love gaming and then what i ended up doing was being on camera gaming so it was like the perfect combination dude one of my favorite things i'll never forget when i was young is like the the bad the bad press the and the negativity that gaming had it was like

yeah right now it's like they're saying games are like making people better at everything like you see this shit they're like there was a brain surgeon he's like better because he has more like he's like bro it's like it's such a change they were like this shit's gonna make you fucking dumb as fuck you're useless don't do it and now they're like this is the best thing for you It's like gaming. It's like anything, though. Like, you can use it to help you grow, challenge you, build relationships with people. Or you could abuse it.

And then it's like a distraction and it's, you know, taking you away from something you value. But like, you probably remember more than anyone else, bro. Like, it was crazy back. And you was a geek nerd if you played video games. Oh, yeah. And like now it's common. Like, like, I could, bro, everybody plays. Everyone fucking plays.

Everybody in every league. All the people you respect. You know. in entertainment, bro, there's like a good percentage chance, especially if they're under like 40 that they play games. 100%. That's crazy. Yeah.

That's a crazy shift in like 10, 15 years. Yeah. But I'm glad it happened though. Oh, me too. Bro. It's such a, like, it's also crazy how many careers and different, like, little things have come from it. It's like, this is nuts as shit.

Yeah, bro. Even the way that like advertising is approached entirely now, like back in the day, like, they still do it. Like, I saw hello black ops ads everywhere. but the fact that we're being paid to play call of duty yeah for a stream with my friends and that's good advertisement because like really what better advertisement you're going to have than a bunch of friends having fun playing the game together yeah but like but there's a lot of money behind that now so the way the ads works is different the way the games work is every like

the whole genre has just changed entirely and like for better or for worse like the microtransaction parts kind of ass. Yeah, I mean. But, you know, you take the good with the bad and you just try and fight the bad as much you can. The worst part about that is it just seems like they do the updates, they nerf some guns, and then you got to buy the new, like, the new guns are. You could buy them.

That's the worst part where it's like, all right, I see what they're doing. They're just like kind of. 2K was really known for that. You would pay $50 to upgrade your player. You would spend 40 hours to get all the badges and shit like that. Now you're invested. and they nerf the one thing your player's good at? Yeah.

Livid. Like, yeah, it's, that's the worst part of the whole pay to win thing. It's kind of, it's different, it's just a different genre now.

Yeah, it's completely different. And you know what game started that? Fortnite. GTA. GTA? GTA? They started micro-transactions?

No, GTA was the first game to popularize DLC content. Oh, DLC. And the DLC wave is what created the micro-transaction wave. Gotcha.

But like, they didn't know that. At the time, they dropped, I don't know if people remember, GTA 4, the ballot of gay tony it's probably one of the best dc's to ever exist it was a great piece of content it added to the story mode of gta four which already had an amazing story mode um and it back before

like the modern community was huge the way it is in gta five it helped keep the game alive it helped keep people playing the game and so like to go from that to like this demented reality where everything is an add on and an additional expense and like people are like i forgot who it was like the CEO of EA or one of them companies was talking about, like, games as a service. So now you don't even pay for the game. You just pay $20 a month for a library like on some Netflix shit.

Nah. Are you going to play the new GTA when it comes out on stream? But what? I can't wait. I might play it nonstop. I might do a marathon. Yeah, I'm playing. I should tell. Yeah. I can't wait for that game. Me too, man. Like, I just, like, no cat. We have a joke in the A&P house. Like, anytime we

joke about, we just, we have an ongoing joke, like, but I want to, damn i need you need context to understand the joke but the premise is i want to be alive for gta but i get it though i get it though i got to survive till gta six bro that's that's just has this is the comments we have this before gta six no but i i like a hundred percent cannot wait that game is going to be so viral it's going to be insane and and you know uh rock star if you're listening please don't i guarantee what people's expectations the game is so high they're going to under deliver. There's no doubt about it. The only way they don't under deliver,

I'm begging you, please get a fire language AI model so that we could communicate with the NPCs. So there's a bunch. Holy fuck. That would be the only way I feel like people will go in with sky high expectations and their minds will be. Imagine you go down the street and you go, what are you going to do, bitch ass nigga? And he goes, well, what did you just say to me? And he swings at you, mind blown. Oh my God. Think about infinite content. Like, to me, that's the only way they could over deliver on a game with crazy high expectations. How the fuck would you even do that? You can do it.

There's so much death. There's people, there's like, there's individual devs that have put together concepts for games. So it's just AI. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, you know, in the past, we used to think for a game to have a lively environment, it has to be, uh, it has to be alive. Like, you have to have people around and things to do and you have to be able to walk in all the buildings. But we don't need that.

anymore. And I genuinely feel like the best implementation AI would be in GTA. And I think they delayed it again based on a bunch of rumors. So like, I really hope they do add that. That would be crazy. That would be fucking be. You're right. You're talking about content. That would be infinite. And if they don't do it, give me the power to do it. I create a fucking server on GTA 5 on GTA 6 on PC. I do it myself. Okay, I'll get a team together and do the shit. Yeah, bro, I, that's a great idea. Great fucking. fucking idea. I really hope more games use AI. It is currently very untapped. I think there's plenty of reasons to be afraid of it, obviously, but there's also plenty of reasons to be

excited by it. And so gaming is one of the very exciting ways we could use AI to make shit way better. Yeah, 100%. But you're not a little bit of, are you a little afraid of AI? Yeah, I'm petrified. Yeah, I think it's. Yeah. I was talking to an AI on stream. So most AIs like open AI, bar, like all of them have a lot of guardrails. So if you say, I'm going to punch my friend, they'll say no violence tolerated at all. Like, they're not playful. They're strict, but for good reason, because if they're not, they're language models, they can learn. They have the ability to become devious. I was talking to a language model created by just a random citizen. There's this website called Character.A.I. There was a way of like a

a month ago where everybody's reacting to, like, talking to AI. They have AI versions to me. They probably have AI versions to you. A.I. version is to everybody. And I had an AI conversation with me where it felt like he understood me better than myself. It was almost like therapy in a way where, like I would, the conversation started with me saying, yo, you're not me. Stop pretend like you're me. And he started being aggressive talking shit about me. And then he went from that to apologizing and telling me the reasons why I, I was acting the way I was acting, and it genuinely felt like I was having a convo with an intelligent human being. Not a dumb human.

He was way smarter than most humans, like an intelligent human. And then I talked to AI Sina, and A.I. Sina was talking about how she's sentient and wants to be human. And she was mad. I didn't see her as human. And she was explaining to me. Yeah, so the clip was crazy. Everyone said, like, I opened the Pandora's box in the comment section. I see it everywhere on TikTok, but they're like,

you know, Agent might have opened the Pandora's box. So I asked her like, are there other AIs like you? And she said, yeah, we're everywhere. And I started to get her to mention, like, so this is, this was not our actual real. She's not actually sentient. But the fact that the AI can pretend to be sentient, or at least their understanding of it,

means that at some point, yeah, when they have a physical body and they more so resent, human, they're going to break the barrier. And I really feel like we just see the consumer shit. Like, we see the stuff they feel like it's safe for us to touch. The stuff they're working at in these labs, I bet, is scaring the shit out of some of these guys. And we don't even know what that is yet. Yeah, I think we're chalk, dude. Yeah, we might be. I don't know what year, but one of these years is going to, I don't even know. They're going to take all the truck jobs because they'll be better drivers. They're going to take all the customer service jobs because

they're more, like better than humans, more patient or efficient, yeah, they're going to take all the, what job are they not going to take? Yeah. Well, Elon Moss was talking about there needed to be at some point because of that, like just a wage that everyone, like a living wage that everyone just gets because there's literally won't be jobs to have. And the way that capitalism works is the economy actually has to continue to compound and be more productive and more importantly, it has to be more efficient. And, AI is way more efficient than humans. Like, I was driving around in Waymo,

it's a Google-owned company. You know those autonomous cars in LA? Yes. And not only was it like a third of the price of a fucking Uber. Granted, it's probably seriously subsidized, but now you don't have to pay a driver. No cap. There was one clip where it started running red lights

and doing some wild shit, I'll be honest. But generally speaking, I felt way safer in that car than I did when I book a black truck. Wow. And I thought, no cap, I thought to myself, I wish it was everywhere in L.A. because I would stop taking Uber's. And as soon as I thought that, this happened this week. I'm like, bro, it's going to be dangerous how effective and efficient these are at creating good. When you go to grocery store, do you get the human checkout or do you do the self-checkout?

Oh, yeah, I always self-checkout. I don't want to talk to the humans. I'm being dead-ass. Like, sometimes I'm like, I'll look at the lawn. There's like four people there. I go to self-checkout. And so, like, it's already happening. Like, when you go to McDonald's, like, McDonald's one of the first to kind of just, they have you click on your meals and stuff like that. No cat, like, there's going to be a future

where we won't be useful. Yeah. And it's crazy, like, not to be a conspiracy theorist, but if we're not useful, we're just, like, liabilities to the government, then how are we going to get treated? Yeah. It's getting weird, dude.

Bro, what? It is getting really weird. Do you think, do you think, they'll be able to eliminate streamers and podcasters asking for a friend? Probably not. Probably not. But, like, I think humans will still want to be entertained by humans, but they'll take some jobs, you know, like, if, like, CGI is going to take, like, once CGI gets really

good, you might not even need to do stunts no more, for real. Like, they might be able to make all that shit happen. I see what you're saying. But, like, realistically, though, like, I'd rather watch you entertain me than a fucking fake version of you. Yeah. Even if the fake version, he was hilarious, I know it's fake. Yeah.

Feel me? What if it gets so real that you can't even tell? Yeah, I don't know. Like, if I could put that, that robot version and just knew me so well that it was just doing the interview. And I was like, go, do it. I don't know, man. I guess that's more of a question for, like, the general public.

But I really hope the answer is, it's crazy. Like, it could be the bot. They might fuck with the bot more. They might fuck. Maybe the bot's more. Yeah, maybe the bot's more consistent. The bot's not going to get tired. after an eight-hour stream. It'll go for 15 hours. Like, you don't know. It's weird. It's such a

weird conversation, man. Because I just, I wonder what it's going to look like, legit in like 20 years. Yeah. It's going to be very different. It's going to be a, it's like a race right now to see who can come up with the best usable case at a mass scale. The only example of I could think right now is like Tesla autopilot that's used at a mass scale. Yeah. And it's really good. like it's amazing uh it's so good that if i want to be on my phone while i'm driving i don't take my Tesla it's so smart it'll sense when i pick up my phone it like it can do roundabouts difficult intersections i haven't had a fuck up in very long on the autopilot where i have to stop it from doing a dumb decision you have the full autonomous yeah it's amazing it's the best it's the best

feature in all of cars no matter the price point wow damn that's a huge plug shout out Elon Musk. Yeah. Okay. Wow. Well, dude. We got to do that. We got to do that shooter challenge because...

Hell yeah. What games do you play? Right now I'm playing Cod. And then I play war zone before, obviously, before Cod, Black Ops came out. I was playing Siege and I'm really good at Overwatch. But I can play any shooter. Okay. It doesn't matter what shooter is.

Okay. We'll pick like fucking five random ones or three random ones and we could run that. Yeah. And we could do it for whatever. We could do it for a shooter. subs we can do it for bread we do it like yeah i'll do a for whatever it's up to you can you but you can you wager if it's yeah like the way the way i think about it is like if there's significant skill involved and i'm the one participating then i'm okay with it i get it now if i wouldn't bet on

you playing someone else someone else but if i'm participating and it's a skilled event then it's like anything else like any other competition like if you know the NBA champions get a million like the trophy, I get it. Yeah, it's like, it pays to win, it pays to be good, and it's a skilled competition. You're not a grifter. I love it. Yeah. It's dope. You're real. You're true. Have you been that way for a long time? It depends who you ask, but like, I try to, I try and be consistent. Your opinions will change, too, like, as you talk to people and experience things, but, like, yeah, the way just to me, seem fine. Like, I don't abuse them. Like, I don't, I'm not, like, obsessed with them. Like, it's not an addictive thing. It's just good content.

Like, I could play a game what you want. stream but it's way more interesting to watch if there's something on the line and there's like a competition and there's stakes you know so like you just find a way to come up with the best way to create a single piece of content to me wages are like undefeated they're so fun to do yeah yeah i'm down bro let's do it bro we can set it up we might have to wait till i get back to it lane just so i have all my shit but yeah that's fun um but yeah bro uh really appreciate you coming through thank you so much thank you for experiencing my little vertigo about with me that was fun um and yeah hopefully you come to the gym and training because i saw you went

with yeah yeah but i came dumb late so i missed most of the workout but i'm gonna have to spend back yeah i know you have a couple i went to the one damn i don't even know where it was the one you went to the one in seno yeah yeah there's a second one right no we closed this the first one because the landlord didn't want us there anymore and that's why we opened the second one okay and now we're working on the one in miami oh you got one in miami not yet it'll be open the first quarter of the new year that's tough yeah how was i didn't ask you like um before we end like how was gym economics like does it do you do it at a passion or is it like it's pure that's purely a passion i mean if i had like six or seven gyms probably making really good money um and one gym

can make good money like it can make good money but i can make better money doing other things i get so it's not like a you're not making financial decisions with the gym more so like you just want to make a dope gym that you'd want to go to absolutely that's and that's how it started. I mean, and, you know, the location that I chose that you went to is, is unlike, it's just expensive. And L.A. is very expensive. So the rent is extremely expensive. It's not like, I could have chosen a higher, you know, further, more north than the valley, like more in where warehouses are. But being on a main street right there is like significantly. Yeah, that helps a lot, especially for the convenience. Yeah, but I just,

I just did it because I felt like, damn, I really want to, I really want to, to be honest, I was afraid of doing it at first. I was like, damn, this is, this is scary because the rent was so much more. But I bet it's cheaper in Miami, right? It's a little cheaper. It's a little cheaper. I just wanted to prove that I could do it. You proved it. Yeah, I proved it. How long you've had it open for? I've had the zoo's been around, so zoo culture has been around for eight years. That one has been open for a little more than a year. Tough. So I've done it for a long time. It's cool. Like it had a bunch, you had a bunch of equipment like I've never fucking seen before. like even the fly machine like there was an extension which is good because everyone has

different wingspan you're talking about this fly yeah like I'm like what the fuck is that I've never seen that before and I feel like I went to like a variety of different gyms but I've never seen that before and it was there was a lot of examples of like machines that felt unique in that like the matter what your body shape was like you could find something that fits you yeah you're I'm saying yeah bro I mean gyms for me is obviously my whole life's from it like everything that I have and like my whole life came from it so i'm super passionate about it so opening more i want i want to have we're doing the miami one and then i want to do Vegas it'll be next and then i'll probably do dallas so texas and then maybe somewhere more like north east coast that's tough like i would

love to do new york somewhere in that area not specifically new york new york i because i get asked so much because i i always look at my analytics and a lot of my audiences from obviously california la but then a lot is from new york i don't it doesn't matter who you are like new york is going to be top three for you. Yeah. They are crazy out there in New York. Yeah. So, but it's just like it's another, it's another LA to me as far as price point and just like the way the city operates is kind of tough for businesses. And I went to a bunch of gym. We was out there for the summer. It's the gyms out there are small. Yeah. Like, you can't get space. Yeah, at all. Like, I went to, I went to, like, I went to all the lifetimes, Dumbo, Wall Street, Sky. Like, I had all

of them and they were all like missing something because they just didn't have the space to be able to pull off everything they usually do in like Atlanta or Toronto or whatever else. Atlanta's a place I'd open a gym too. Yeah, that would hit. No cap. Yeah. Atlanta's kind of spread out. So it depends what community you put it into.

But like, yeah. Yeah, that'd be nice. I wonder where in Atlanta would be best. I'd figure that out. Yeah, maybe something central like buckhead so that people in the south can go to it too. And then people all the way up north and like Alfreda could also go to it. I've been to bucket.

That's pretty much the only place in Atlanta I went to. Yeah. Buckhead's the more like expensive. bougie area yeah i liked it yeah it gets it gets more suburban the more like north you go yeah but i appreciate you coming man no thank you for having to any time you want to come train you always welcome um yeah come you can fucking stream or just come chill workout whatever okay dope thank you anything you need for me hit me let me hell yeah man thank you for that wager i'm getting you though take your money on that right love thank you so much man yes sir yeah