RAWTALK - Alex Wassabi calls out KSI
Episode Date: March 15, 2022This guest will put a smile on your face with his charming personality & inviting smile ALEX WASSABI. But don't let the smile fool you as he shows us the other side of him in the ring. We talk about h...is fight, content, growth, relationships, heartbreaks, recent victories, and he calls out his next opponent...SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://vm.TikTok.com/TTPdQbEqVX/FOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)
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Is it on?
All right, let's see if my plan works.
I have a surprise.
Yeah, shut that door.
You have a surprise, right?
Everybody says that, and they just give me a shit ton of candy.
I'm like, what am I going to do with all this candy?
No, no, no, no.
Okay, okay.
I would never do that.
I'm dieting.
I would never bring you candy.
All right.
It's just us, too?
Yeah.
I thought you had a co-host.
I do.
Oh, she's.
She's in and out sometimes.
Depends.
Wait here.
So we can have for a bit?
Like, not like?
Not like officially live, yeah.
Are you cold?
No, I just woke up for real?
Yeah.
All right, let's put these bitches on.
Hey.
Oh, see, where is that?
Where's my bitch at?
Behind you on the table.
Yeah, you got to have to reach.
Yeah, there you go.
A little backbed.
Yeah.
All right.
Sylvie, make sure it comes.
All right, welcome back to another episode of Raw Talk.
I have actually one of my most OG friends in the fucking in the internet.
That's me.
Yeah.
You're actually one of the most like, I mean, you've been doing YouTube for like forever.
16 years.
16 years.
Since January, yeah.
So what age did you start YouTube at?
I started 15.
So over half my life now.
Fuck.
Yeah.
Now, I, honest, honest, because I've been.
doing it for almost nine almost 10 years yeah no nine almost 10 years yeah uh how much do you
hate it no seriously no i guess i've kind of that's kind of like from me a little bit yeah like
where are you at with it i i never know where i'm at with it i uh i used to do the daily blogging
that i remember i when i met you oh yeah you were fucking doing vlogs every single day every single
day for years and that's what kind of how many years probably three years i think oh my god and i think
that's where it like kind of killed youtube kind of killed me there and i was like oh what's next am i
doing this my whole life so i'm still like back and forth i'm like oh i actually was going to retire
and then dedgy asked me to box and that's the only thing anybody could have asked me
to get me back into youtube and he did it and now i'm back what would you do what would you do outside
like if you weren't doing youtube what would you be doing you i have no idea that's what i was going to figure out
And then Dead you was like, let's box.
I was like, I guess he figured it out for me because I'm about the fight now.
So, okay, because you were, I saw you do a few, like exhibition, I guess you called it, like,
sparring practice.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And I was always impressed by your boxing skills.
Yeah.
And this was like two years ago.
Yeah, I think you were there when I went during the like social gloves, sparring thing.
Yeah.
That was like my first spar.
Well, Fuzi was my first spar ever.
We saw how that went.
Yeah.
And then my second and third spar was Stromedy and Nick Ireland at the event you saw.
Yeah.
So, like, I wasn't trained at all for fighting.
I was just, I just boxed for fitness.
And that was like two years ago, right?
I think one year ago.
One year ago.
Since then, have you been boxing consistently?
Yeah, I guess.
Like, kind of.
But when I got asked to box in August, if I was, they just asked if I was interested.
And since then, I've been going, like, fight training.
Like, it's different than fitness training.
So, sparring, like, just everything got more intense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why do you think you beat DeGy?
I think he underestimated my size.
You think he just sucks?
I feel bad.
I feel bad because I didn't say that.
I feel bad because I didn't say that.
I think he's nice, dude.
He's a nice dude.
He's super nice.
I'm just like, I don't know.
It's like how many times.
I feel bad.
I think it's his opponents.
Like there's a reason Jake has only fought people like four inches shorter than him.
In smaller.
Yeah.
Like he underestimated that.
Even in the press conference, I was telling him, I'm like, yo, I'm taller than you.
I have a longer reach.
I feel like you didn't know that.
And he was like, I don't care.
I don't care because me, Jake and Vinny were all taller than
him and I'm not saying he can't beat somebody taller than him but at our level why I take that
disadvantage from the get go he hasn't had a chance to fight somebody his his height and I think he
would do really well yeah because you're talking about the reach and all this stuff and having to get
into yeah strikes in yeah and I mean obviously the professional professional level which
none of us are at yeah right they're able to they're kind of planning for that or they know their
game so they could pick a different opponent where it's like okay I know I can get in on the taller guy
and fuck him up.
Yeah.
Whereas, like, I don't think he,
he think he's still just understanding boxing.
Yeah, I think, I mean, like, if he fought, like, Bryce Hall,
that would be a great fight or Joe Weller because they're all, like, five, nine.
I talked to Bryce Hall yesterday.
He said he's going to beat the fuck out of Degie.
Yeah, I think that would be a great fight.
But I think Degg would win, but I think it'd be a good fight.
You think Degg would?
Yeah, I think Degg would.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Bryce is really confident.
Yeah, well, he was against Austin, too.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true. He's just a confident guy.
So how did this shit go down?
You go to the UK was there a whole press conference like you didn't watch it I didn't watch I didn't have time bro I was at the Arnold you watch the fight though yes okay I didn't watch the fight live I watched the fight after the fact I was at the Arnold doing like fucking fitness shit so I got there and immediate hate like from the whole UK from the whole UK audience that watches YouTube they just didn't like me and I thought like oh Logan and Jake got this kind of treatment because they're Logan and Jake but then I I
came there and it's just anybody they just ride for their people yeah they like that yeah
that's how it should be yeah that's true yeah they're just very like they're there for their
their their people yeah so is there is there anyone else in that in that like group of people that
you would box uh give called me out i'm down for that if he drops away kSI 100% if he drops the way
you think you beat ks i that guy hits hard bro he he he he i remember he yeah i was like this guy hit hard
yeah but it's because he
all the weight if he comes to my weight we're equal the only thing he has on me is weight but if he comes
to my weight then i feel like he's going to underestimate me just like his brother did do you think he's
been training like consistently it doesn't matter it doesn't matter it doesn't matter you think you'll
beat him for sure oh yeah wow that would be like bro if you beat him i feel like it would be like low
key embarrassing for him i'm not trying to disrespect you no i think it would be too because like he's
been like because he fought logan long is tall yeah he fought logan at logan at that way
at 200 or whatever the weight they fought at but that's all he has and then if he fights me like
at my weight that's my territory that's where i live he's a visitor i think dude if it'd be so
fucked if he lost it would he hates me so much you've got to fight him i'm 100% down do you
do you think he will he said that he would he so he said i saw that he said that he would box you
and give like he wouldn't make anyone pay for it or something like that yeah and if he lost to you
in a spa this is just sparring he's talking about no he's talking about an event that he would stop making
music yeah and stop boxing yeah okay that's really confident well i retired
like stop making music is like dude because if you actually beat him yeah he's gonna have to keep
making music yeah well i retired one brother in boxing so bro that
That would be the, that'd be the funniest shit.
I'd have to, I'd have to go to that fight.
I mean, okay, so this is how I see it.
If, uh, I mean, when I win and he doesn't box or doesn't, I own his music career.
I own his boxing career.
Yeah.
That like, you own, you own the right stage.
I own.
For any music he makes in the future, if he still wants to make it.
Yeah.
Oh, it's my.
I get 10%.
No, this is what I see.
I see if, I mean, when I beat him, it's going to be, I own his music career.
and I own his boxing career and he can have them both back,
but he has to fight me again or he has to put me on a song,
then he can start making music again.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's, fuck.
Bro, I want this to happen so,
because, like, he's obviously super confident.
Yeah.
You're pretty confident.
Yeah.
He thinks he's just going to son you.
I know.
He, I mean, it's just, it's my voice, I guess.
Like, he doesn't, he needs to realize that he's not a god.
He's just a man, and I'm a man too, and I'm a humble him.
Dude, I want to see it so bad.
That's the fight I want to see so bad.
Who is he trying to fight, though, right now?
Is he trying to fight Jake?
I feel like no one wants to fight Jake.
I think he wants to build up to Jake.
So he wants to fight, like, me and Austin.
I think were the two people.
I saw Austin posted.
He saw that KS.
I was talking about fighting me.
And Austin was like, oh, yeah, go for the guy that you can beat.
And I'm like, bro.
Would you box Austin too?
Oh, yeah.
Austin's all mad because KS.
I wants to fight me now.
And I'm like, let us know when you have a gross bird.
Yo, you got all the smoke, huh?
Yeah, I'm ready.
That's so funny.
How tall is he?
He's like five nine?
Austin yeah he's I mean he's not super tall yeah too super short he's a little bit taller than Bryce I think yeah it has to be like like maybe 510 oh yeah yeah I definitely not six foot though yeah okay I'm not gonna lie when when Austin fought I was like he's like aggressive mm-hmm like he was he wasn't in there like fucking around like yeah you know when Taylor I hate I'm not trying to shit on him but Taylor was like he looked kind of scared in their fight like he didn't want to get hit which I understand
Austin was in there, like, really throwing hands.
I mean, maybe because he felt the dominance over Bryce.
He was like, oh, I could just go in here and, like, sudden this kid.
I mean, at our level, it comes to the biggest guy thing because Austin was bigger than Bryce.
Gibb was, like, way, obviously way heavier than Taylor.
And it's a big thing.
Weight class is a huge thing.
Yeah, that's why he exists.
So that's why, like, I feel like if Gib and Taylor were the same weight, it would have gone differently.
It's just Taylor felt the power of the weight.
And he's like, whoa, I got to be, I got to watch out for this.
So then he was defensive a lot because he had to watch out for that power.
You think that was the only reason, just like you felt that weight?
And then he was like, fuck.
Yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, I feel like he underestimated the weight because I'm pretty sure they didn't make weight.
Or he didn't make, Gabe didn't make weight.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Or maybe Taylor didn't go up enough.
Yeah.
And then he did some weird shit with the head gear.
Oh, there's a whole bunch of shit going on that whole thing.
Yeah.
Would you ever do MMA shit?
Nope.
No.
I'm not trying to get elbowed in the face.
God, I want to do that so bad, man.
Oh, do it.
That's what I want to do.
I will be there.
I will support you.
But it's like, for me, who's, who's, like, worth it?
It's like, and they're not going to want to do it because I'm also too big.
Yeah.
Like, I'm like Jake and Logan, but they don't want it.
Yeah.
Because I'm too big.
And I don't even blame them for that.
Have you done, like, M.A?
I dabble.
Hey.
Done a little bit here and there.
Hey.
You got to keep it, like, low key, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
It's good, dude.
So, so what's up with, what's up with your, um, your personal life?
31 now.
31 now, yeah.
You're the youngest 31 year old I've ever seen in my life.
No, I swear to God.
I still feel like you're like fucking 22.
Yeah, I wish.
I feel 31.
After the fight, I went to Dejy, and I saw him in the hotel lobby, and I was like,
yo, man, how are you feeling?
He's like, I feel good.
I feel good.
I don't feel anything.
And I was like, oh, for real?
And I don't know if he was joking or not.
And he was like, how you feel?
I was like, yo, my back hurts, my knees hurt.
He said that?
I said that.
And he was like, what, for real?
I feel nothing.
And I was like, wait, talk to me in five years.
How old is Dejie?
25 okay yeah it kind of catches up with you a little bit I swear the thing the thing it's funny
because I'm a fucking fitness guy yeah and I remember being young and like you know the older dudes
were like 34 35 I'm like 19 18 yeah they're always like oh man when you're my age just be ready
and I was like shut the fuck up old man yeah I swear to God now I'm about to be 33 yeah and I'm like
oh I see I about to be 32 at the end of this month it's you know what the thing is that that is
game changer for me that I I skipped out on for
so many years that like once I started doing I was like oh this actually really helps me
stretching yeah that's what I tell kids I mean not kids but like 20 year olds I'm like yo I have a
24 a 25 year old friend Vlad you met black yes Vlad boxer yeah yeah and he was like you know
man like what would you tell somebody at my age I know it's only like six years apart but what
would you tell him I'm like you'll stretch and he was like for real I was like yeah I started stretching
when I was like 30 and I had to fight 30 years of not stretching and I'm and it's still like I'm still
not as flexible as I wish I could be yeah because I'm still like my body settled into this non-stretching
body yeah so I'm just fighting that now yeah and I've like had terrible like shoulder injuries like
not like acute injuries but just over time because my mobility is so lacking I don't I never did
enough stretching yeah that I was always limited and like I only notice now when it's like I'm feeling
like both sides are firing properly like I'm getting the maximum amount of contraction in both
sides is when like I am heavily into the stretching like I have to yeah do it almost mid
workout I have to do it at night and it's crazy because I might my my my my foresight for that was
like shut the fuck up old man yeah and I'm looking back like fuck dude someone really was able to
influence me and be like dude trust me when I tell you this everyone listening if you're like
20 19 22 and you and you work out you like you like to be fit fucking stretching sounds so
fucking boring but I promise you it will change your life yeah like not what a podcast
put some music on and stretch for like 10 minutes it's not even that much yeah i do but it's it's
it's like change my life oh yeah i stretch all i stretch in starbucks line if i'm just standing in line
i'll touch my toes and like move around and stretch yeah even for my mental help man like
stretching like that act is almost somewhat like meditative yeah yeah do you do you uh have you like
developed anything like for yourself in that sense over these years because i know you've like
doing youtube for so long and being like fuck i got i come up with a title and a thumbnail oh yeah
it's just stressful it sounds like to the person listening's like that's
That's fucking stupid.
That's easy.
Yeah.
But I do it for 10 years.
Yeah.
It's easy.
It's 16 years and think of after you made thousands of titles already.
You got to think of one you haven't used yet.
It's fucking crazy.
It's hard.
So where are you at?
Where are you at mentally with all this shit?
With what?
YouTube.
YouTube and life.
I think I'm getting better.
I think boxing definitely helped with all this stuff.
Yeah.
Because like I said this in a previous podcast.
I,
uh,
my whole life purpose for like my first 10 years on YouTube was to buy my parents.
house and like my whole drive was to buy my parents a house. Yeah. And all I wanted to do was take
care of my family. I was okay, I'm going to take care of my family. Once I saw like the trajectory
of where this could go at the beginning and I was like, oh my God, I'm about to get my parents
a house. I'm going to retire my parents. Yeah. So for 10 years, okay, got to do this, got to do this,
daily, blog, daily, blog, daily, blog, day, blah, day. I got to do this. I got to save up money,
got to do this. Got to send my brother to college. Got to do everybody's cars. And then I
finally got to the point in my career where I bought my parents like a million dollar house.
Yeah. And in North Carolina, it's huge.
It's like half the price of my house, and it's double the size.
That's like a $6 million house here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I did it.
And then after that, I kind of got lost.
And I was like, wow.
How many years ago was that?
Like six years ago, I think.
Or it was five years ago.
Yeah.
But I got lost.
I had no more purpose.
And I was like, oh, my gosh.
I have nothing.
I can't give them anything else.
I gave them everything.
So I was like, oh, oh.
So for years, I was lost.
And then boxing came.
And I put all the pack.
that I had those 10 years of trying to give my parents a house into boxing and
that should that's scary like I would be scared of somebody with that drive they're like wow
this guy did all that he daily blocks it three years he focused on one thing for 10 years and
now all he has to focus on his boxing now he's not focusing on somebody else he's focusing on
himself and that should be scary yeah for sure yeah I feel like that's all I've done over the years
is focused. I don't say focus on myself, but physically. Yeah. Um, so if, if it wasn't for boxing,
what would you do then? Like, do you have another passion that is like, no. And also, I guess another
question I have is like, how are you making money then when you kind of stop doing as much YouTube stuff?
Um, I mean, I just stripping. That's dope. I just, I just have like savings and we're telling me
about about your, like on the side. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But let's like, let's cut that part out.
Okay. That's a little secret.
yeah but what were you doing i mean i have i got i've been doing it for a long time man i have a lot of
money yeah i got to chill it's just chilling so i'm chilling but uh i was i was still making
videos i just you could tell my heart wasn't in it like i was burning out and like uh like
didgy said in a in the press conference he was like oh are you burning out or your channel's
burning out and i was like my channel's burning out because i'm burning out and you can
tell yeah and uh it's just uh but boxing reinvigorated everything i'm like wow i get to compete
like who gets this opportunity who like to fight i had a sold-out arena in london and didgy filled it for me
and i just went there and beat him up and i was like wow what who gets this chance in life i'm such
i'm like i'm so lucky and so blessed to be able to even compete in that space and now i get to do it
again because i want i mean if i lost i have two more chances wait is that a thing you only
no but i mean wait wait wait is this two more chance things fucking me up or
It's because Dejy lost three times.
So if I lose, I get two more chances.
Oh, my God.
Bro, it's got to be tough being Dejy right now.
I mean, he's such a good guy.
No, I know he is.
He's such a good guy.
Who's he boxing next?
Because it's like, he's like talking about who's going to, I mean, shit, dude.
Yeah.
I mean, I think Bryce has the move because they both have losing records, but they're both
known and they both love the sport and they both put time into it.
So it wouldn't be easy for either of them.
Yeah.
And that's what I feel like most boxers want is the competition.
Yeah.
I have a question.
Oh, yeah.
So given that you're going into the boxing and I know your content is a little more like, I know, like family friendly.
So with that, since you're in boxing, this is one of my questions.
That's dope.
Do you think that you would basically show a different side of you?
Damn, we're on the same page.
You are like, you are 301?
Like, are you going to show your aggressive side?
Are you not going to be as friendly?
Like, what are you going to do?
Yeah, bro.
When the fuck you pop the bottles and shit, bro?
You don't have much more time.
Because like realistically, it's crazy because like your content's like you're super friendly.
You get along with everyone.
It's like, okay, with boxing comes shit talking with shit talking.
When are you getting rubbing tugs?
And when are you like paying for hookers and shit?
What's good?
Well, you live right down the street.
Let me know.
When are we doing the good shit, bro?
You're fucking what?
You're fucking 31.
Yeah.
I love how we keep saying it.
It's so fun for me.
Dude, I'm about to be 33.
Listen, this is crazy, bro.
Look at it, to be fair, you guys both don't look your age.
Brad a little more closer to his age.
Yeah, you think you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
You're like mid-20s.
I don't look at my age, it's okay.
We're all younger.
Like, just not to come to me.
Go ahead.
Well, I am family-friendly, but if you look at my last, like, few videos, they're more just me.
Like, I'm cursing in them.
I'm serious in them.
Like, I didn't cut out a lot of the hate I got.
If you watched the vlog on my channel.
I left all the hate in there
I left all the cursing
Like where it said pussy on the towel
That Dejy gave me
I didn't blur it
Like I just want to be more me
And I feel like
Thanks to Dejy
I'm able to reach this audience
That is acceptable of that
Because I have 11.5 million subscribers
But they're used to seeing
Family Friendly Alex
But I'm like
And breaking out of that was hard
But how old are they now
Because like they have to be older now
Yeah
Because you've been doing it for so long
There's definitely motherfuckers
Who were like 16
They're probably 26 now
Yeah that's why I'm
I'm saying like they're still using YouTube yeah yeah but I needed like a gateway yeah I
need a gateway to get through why didn't you just say fucking is to start doing it being like
yo guys this is my fucking channel now like yeah well I mean it's like Nickelodeon just
randomly starts coming out with like uh like put boxing on their channel nobody's gonna
watch that yeah but it's different you're a human yeah right and and like Nickelodeon is a
network where it's like all right you said most of the time yeah you fuck me uh it's like bro
Like Nickelodeon is a network where it's like, all right, you're a certain age.
Okay, now they're going to replace you with someone else.
But you're like a fucking human.
You're fluid.
You're evolving.
Yeah, but people would, I think most people would agree.
I'm pretty much the Disney or Nickelodeon of YouTube in my past.
And I'm trying to, I just want to grow up.
I just want to do what I want to do and be me.
And now I can.
Yeah.
So what other fuck shit are you going to get into that?
I want to fight KSI, man.
Yes, please.
That's what I want to do.
I've never been hated so much by somebody.
Oh, there's two times.
I've been passionately hated this much in my life.
And it's only two other times.
Wait.
You don't know why.
This is in my past.
So growing up, I would be bullied because I was like, I didn't have a gross
birthday until I was 17.
My voice was even higher than it is.
I know it's hard to believe, but my voice is a lot higher than it is now.
Yeah.
And like, I was just this little Asian dude and I got bullied growing up.
And there was two times.
How old were you when you get, what was his age range?
I mean, probably from kindergarten until 12th grade.
Not like heavily, but like I would be if a bully saw me,
he'd be like, oh, easy target and he'd go for me.
So there was two times in my life where I was passionately hated.
There's these two rand bullies separate times where they passionately hated me
and I'm getting the same vibes from KSI.
And I'm, this is what I'm, this is just the pattern I see.
I'm not saying anything, this is the pattern I see, okay?
Both those bullies that passionly hit me in the past later came out.
Oh shit.
Wait a sec.
It's just the pattern.
It's just the pattern.
Wait a second.
What are you saying?
No, I'm not saying anything.
I was just saying from my past experience, this is the kind of hate you get from that.
Because he's got the sexual frustration.
Yeah, he's like, he's not reciprocating my feelings.
You don't really want to fight you.
He want to fuck you.
I didn't said you said that I'm just telling you my observations through my lifetime dude
that's dope KSI is it true I just want to know I want to know now Brad he's
gonna want to smoke with you after I don't box gas I don't give a fuck I box any of these
fuckers you can get them after me I'm too big for these kids yeah but I'd love to honestly
I just but I really want to do MMA yeah I want to see you I want to do that so
bad oh yeah because I want to try to kill someone the clock's ticking boy get in there
You want to, what?
Try to kill someone.
Like, obviously, they're not, I mean, hopefully the ref will pull me off before I kill them.
Yeah, but he better be quick.
But I want to, but yeah, I just want to like smash the fucking thing.
Well, like, imagine pulling this 200-pound man off of someone.
Well, I'm going to stop.
Once a ref grabs me, he's like, it's over, I'm going to stop.
I'm not just going to keep fucking, that they deque you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want the win, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, like, my intention is to crush someone's skull.
That's what I want to do.
That's what I'm thinking about.
Have you ever, you should, have you ever tried?
Have you gotten like a school, like a human school and tried to break it?
No.
No, I wouldn't break it like that.
I want to break it like.
Hey, that's a good idea, Brad.
You should do it for a video.
Like, can I break a human school?
Yeah.
Wait, but how do we get those?
You can have mine after I'm done with it.
No, you can have it for a little bit longer.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, would you box me?
No, no.
I wouldn't.
Fuck.
God, I keep like, I doesn't want to even just spar with someone.
We can light spar.
Oh, okay.
I feel like your light spar is my, like, going hard.
Just a little touch
I'm like dude
Fuck who do you think a good opponent would be for me
Dang you're big man
There was that arms guy
But no I think he was only 200
I can't think you're 250 or two
Yeah 250 right now
I don't even know that many people at 250
Yeah especially like who really do
Like the whole internet thing
You just have to fight like a real live bear
Or a gorilla or something
Yeah
Fuck it's like
I don't want to embarrass the gorilla
Yeah Jackie Moon did it
He fought that bear
Who the fuck is Jackie Moon?
No no Jackie Moon
I know.
He's not like one of the best basketball players ever to exist.
And he fought a bear.
But did he actually fight a bear?
No, it was a movie.
It was Will Ferrell.
Did Kibb actually wrestle a bear?
I think so.
It was like a trained bear.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That'd be sick, man.
We should find that trained bear.
How can we find that trained bear?
Oh, no.
He probably made him off.
Can you also find a human skull so I can crush that shit?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'd really like to do that.
So what's up with your love life?
Oh, man.
Me and Lexi were together for like a year.
Yeah, I remember.
We broke up because of boxing.
Shut the fuck up.
What do you mean?
I was just so into boxing.
You're like, I need to do this.
She was like, no, you're going to get hurt.
Was it that?
No, no, no.
I was just boxing took over my life.
I became obsessed with it.
Oh, sounds like me in the gym.
I was obsessed with getting my parents at house.
Now I'm obsessed with boxing.
And I would train in the morning, then train at night,
take my supplements, take the protein, then recovery, massage, cryo, compression stuff,
and then ice bath.
And then the little time I did have.
Wait, wait, hold on a second.
I want to go to the recovery stuff
Yeah
Fuck the girl stuff right now
But we'll talk about that in a second
Wait so you did all those things
Oh yeah
Did you how did you know that you needed to do them
Just because like
Oh I just did it just in case I did
I didn't even if I wasn't sore
I was oh I guess I got to go
You did an ice bath?
I did cryo every single day
I got massages twice a week
I got stretch
Like deep tissue massage
Not just like like a sports massage
Not like rub and tug massage
Yeah yeah okay
That's only once a week
And then I did the I had like stretching
Twice a week
And then
My roommate is a martial artist, so I would just stretch with them all the time.
Is that the guy who comes, who came to the gym and filmed some shit?
He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like a really, he's like an art actor, stunt.
Like choreographer type dude almost.
Yeah.
But he's like, he's an actor and like stuntman.
He can do all these martial arts.
Flips and shit, right?
Yeah.
He did everything.
Yeah.
That guy's dope.
That guy lives with you.
No way.
Yeah.
Did he show you some stuff like that?
Yeah.
I mean, he shows me stuff, but the kicking is like, I can't do the kicking.
Like, he kicks, he kicks high.
I can't.
even like my knee just popped just extending it I can't kick damn bro yeah you
you did recovery stuff consistent as fuck oh yeah I was like working I had to otherwise I
could I had to get back in the gym the next day I had to do this recovery stuff so the little time
I did have for Lexi yeah like I wasn't even present I was so exhausted and I was like oh I'm sorry
oh yeah she wants to go somewhere I'm like oh I can't I got to get up early to box and stuff like that
How long did it take for her to be like, fuck this?
Yeah.
Well, we dated for a year, and then it was a great first six months.
And the second six months, that's where, like, I started boxing, and then I started
we started becoming distant, and we still loved each other.
We were still, we were best friends.
But she started to see that I was, like, not giving my all to a relationship.
And I pride myself on being a great boyfriend and being there 100% in the relationship
when I am in a relationship.
Yeah.
And I wasn't.
wasn't being that for her and she
always talked about moving to Florida and she
brought it up again near the end of our
relationship and I was just honest and I was
like I think you should go because
if you don't you're going to resent me
and like I can't go so
and she wanted to try long distance and I was
like I just don't believe in long distance either
so we just ended up breaking up
yeah yeah you you seem to be like
it's so funny you're like one of the nicest
guys that I know yeah you're like
I feel like, I don't know, not necessarily when I break up.
It's like a fight or something like that, but you're so like kind to just like let it go.
Yeah.
Did you, did you like, I don't know, did you ever have any relationships that weren't as, when they ended, weren't as calm like that?
Oh, that was the, I think that was the only calm one.
Oh, really?
Like, only time it was calm.
Like, she's awesome.
What was it like breaking up with Lauren, if you could talk about it?
Lauren.
Because I remember that.
That's when I met you.
You guys were like together for how many years?
Yeah.
Three years.
Yeah, three years.
Yeah, I can't remember exactly why.
Because she doesn't look like someone who would throw something at you.
No, but no, she, no, but she, I can't remember exactly why we broke up.
I think, I know our therapist, we started going to a therapist near the end.
Like a couple's therapist together?
Yeah, and the therapist suggested that we take a break.
And then, yeah, we broke up.
And then, but we owned a house together.
So I was like, I'm fine.
Is it the one in Studio City?
Yeah.
So I was like, I'm fine with owning.
half the house when you sell it just give me half whatever you sell it for oh we brought we brought
a special guest is your co-host your late co-host oh wait what the fuck oh it's a puppy
wait what the fuck oh it's a dog what's up boy yeah go ahead jump on fucker
we just talked about how passionately kSI hates me yes oh my god yeah it's like you think you
think it's going to be the best fight or what whoa holy shit dude you you had to bring a
fucking alarm clock in here I think I think Alex is Alex is crazy um I think I've never
seen him believe in himself as much as he does right now it's like not only have I
not seen that in Alex I haven't seen that in people like he let me take her outside
yeah just yeah just have the dog
Just bring the dog in there, dude.
Just bring that.
Silby, Silby, will you grab it?
Please.
No, no, no, no.
It's not going to bite.
You're fine.
Oh.
Are you afraid of a little white fluffy dog, dude?
What the fuck?
It's like the least intimidating dog.
Oh, there we go.
It's with Papa.
There you go.
Okay.
So, okay.
What do you mean crazy though?
Because like I don't get any crazy vibes from Alex ever.
No, no, no.
He's so fucking calm.
So that's the thing.
Alex is so calm.
He's so innocent.
He's so nice.
Yet the belief that he has that not only is he going to
fight KSI is going to beat KSI is like it's so convincing I'm not gonna lie if he beats KSI I'm gonna be
shocked that's what I'm saying I like I'm not trying to doubt no no no I but like in your position
I would think the same thing it would be so cool that would be the coolest shit I dude I told him though
like as like as one of his best friends that means basically you beat Logan there we go you be KSI
yeah you have to fight Logan next a KSI is not everybody is like oh it's KSI it's KSI he only
We have the same record.
We both won one fight by split decision with no head care.
He hasn't fought with no headgear except for once.
And I fought with no hair gear once.
And that's it.
And we're both grown men.
I know,
but it's like,
I guess they go like,
oh,
they're assuming the guy's trained more because he trained more like on the front end.
Maybe he's just done more training overall.
Yeah,
but who's trained more recently.
No,
you're right.
And if we fought,
then the Deggie camp becomes a warm up.
That was just my warm up for the real camp.
Yeah.
If we ever fought.
Dude,
I want to see this so fucking bad.
Like I want to see it so bad. Would you box Logan after if you beat KSI if he comes down to my weight? Yeah, 100%
God, dude, I want to see it.
Remember when he boxed?
No, boy, stop.
We're here to talk about Alex and Alex only.
We're not talking about me by boxing nothing.
I want to see him box again.
Yeah, I will.
I will.
Will you really?
Yeah, yeah.
Who are you going to box?
Oh, I got two offers recently, but we're not here to talk about me.
Okay, okay.
But so I told Alex, I was like, as one of your best friends,
I'm not going to sit here and just like be a yes man and kiss your ass.
I'm like, yeah, go for Keisha.
You'll beat him.
And the reason he was like he he gave me that spiel about why are we ranking KSI so high
And I said it's not that I'm ranking KSI so high because of his abilities are who he is but there's two factors
One the person he beat is Logan Paul and I'm putting Logan Paul on a pedestal so I'm saying if KSI beat Logan Paul
I'm ranking KSI high two Alex is a technical fighter like he he's actually boxing you know like
one two one two three slip hook he knows what he's doing where KSI is just going to come
swinging wildly like a dog fight.
You think even now, though, because I feel like, I feel like he's trained enough to
like brawling that maybe he'll come into the next fight like trying to be more.
I think that's going to be the, oh, he hasn't no idea what's coming and he's going to try
to get Alex to think that.
But I think when it comes down to it, it's going to be that.
It's going to be the wild right overhand hook.
That's what he does.
That is what he does.
But you got to think about his opponent.
He was bigger and taller.
So he was throwing wild and like overextending, but you kind of have to.
Yeah, he's like telling, it's like he was telling dead you.
He's like, you got to take a hit to get in there because you're the smaller guy.
So he was trying to brawl because he was trying to get in because Logan's longer and bigger and taller.
What do you think about how much KSI hates him?
I don't know why.
I told you why.
No, he's not one.
He said he had a theory.
You didn't hear the theory?
No.
I'll tell you the theory.
There's two bullies.
I got to love this theory that bullied Alex when he was younger.
All right.
Uh-huh.
And those two bullies eventually, like,
had so much, I don't know, some sort of issue with Alex.
They didn't like him.
So they bullied him.
And then, you know, I don't know how many years later, but they eventually came out.
So he's saying, he's, he's, I'm not, I didn't say anything.
I'm just saying these are the vibes.
Yo, where are you going?
It's not, who, you know, it is what it is, dude.
Wait, so you're saying, I'm not saying anything.
I'm just saying it's similar vibes.
No, no, I'm not, I'm not insinuated nothing.
Oh, shit.
It's insinuated.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Oh, it's 100% fine.
I'm just saying the fact that you said that about KZai?
No, I said I'm getting the same hives, man.
Like, it's not, I'm not going to lie.
I'm just being honest with my life experience.
This shit just got real.
But how does he know that he doesn't,
how do you know that he really is like just the way he talks about you?
I mean, he's made.
Oh my gosh, we got to do something.
Yeah, that dog is an alarm clock, dude.
Holy shit.
Okay.
You're like, let's set a percent.
You're like 100% sure you could be KSI.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know why he.
hates me so much. He made two videos on me. They both, they all have millions, but the research
put into that, you have to either hate or love somebody to do, to go in on somebody. What is he,
what is he? Like, his videos go in depth. I can't even remember, but I remember I was like,
whoa, I forgot that that even happened in my life. Like, he did so much research and went so in
depth on my life two times and he's been hating me, like, for years and like, like, even have you
ever met him? Yeah, I met him after. I mean,
I met him, I was in his movie, like five years ago or six years ago.
He's really nice.
Yeah, there's a clip of us just talking like friends, like from back in the day.
And he had crazy hair and I had crazy hair and like, we're just like, yo man.
And he's like, yeah.
And then I don't know.
He just hates me.
After the beef, like he would still, I mean, like months after the beef, he would still
randomly comment on my picture a clown emoji.
And I'm like, what, what, man?
Why?
Just like, why?
It's been years.
We haven't been in any contacting you randomly, like comment a clown emoji for no reason.
fuck yeah damn dude so so what kind of training are you doing now are you doing like like lifting
or is just pure boxing because now it's like now they're coming they're going to be coming for you
be coming for them yeah are you like taking it even more serious i mean i i i giving away the
i want to lift but like it slows you down so i haven't really been lifting but this whole week
it's been like it's pretty much been two weeks since i've trained because the fight week it's just
relaxing and getting to your 100% to fight and then it's been a week since the fight so i've just
been doing nothing for two weeks and it's weird it's been like six months since i've taken this
long off of boxing uh i've been drinking i've been like everything and i'm breaking out
oh no i had to stop for the fight and i didn't know you had to do that or i thought i knew you did
i thought it was like a movie thing like you could decide if you wanted to when my coach was
seriously like yo three weeks you can't do that and i was like what or he said you can't have
sex and I was like okay and he's like you can't jack off and I was like whoa whoa whoa
pump the brakes coach you're getting crazy right now I'm not a professional boxer yeah
I'm just boxing dead you did you do it did you not did you stop yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah wait that wasn't very convincing see I well no no well he tried to stop me at three
weeks and I stopped at like one and a half weeks I think oh he's like I get a little more
yeah yeah yeah that's I mean bro I stopped I stopped jerking off like completely I
stopped watching porn for like the last almost seven months now
How's that going?
It's going amazing.
They'll just have sex.
Oh, okay, good.
My guy.
Yeah, I mean, I don't stop that.
Yeah, yeah.
Fucking crazy.
But I feel like if I was going to box or fight like, maybe I would.
Yeah.
I'm thinking about it.
I looked it up.
And the reason you do that.
I know you don't have any sex or anything like that.
Okay, don't.
Don't do porn.
Don't do porn.
No, I stopped.
Yeah, that's what I'm telling your audience.
Don't do porn.
Don't do porn or don't watch porn.
Don't be in porn?
You could do porn.
So I got to shut up porn.
I'm not only fans down.
You got only fans?
No, I just said that to fucking.
He's like, how am I not subscribed yet?
You probably have the hottest girls.
Don't do porn.
Don't watch porn guys.
What it does to you as a man and what it does to your confidence without even realizing it in your subconscious is so detrimental to who you are as a person.
It's affecting you to any porn stars who are fans of Raw Talk that think I'm ruining their business.
I'm sorry.
It's just porn.
No.
Okay.
Have set.
Okay.
I love it.
I love, I love, don't watch porn.
Don't have porn.
Don't have porn.
Don't have porn.
Don't do porn unless you're doing porn.
Yeah.
I didn't want to write on your prayer by the way.
He was like,
he woke me up and he was like, I love this.
I love this.
What?
He was like, you got to come.
Yeah, to be fair.
To be fair,
Yousef was like, I don't want to come on.
I don't, I want it to be about Alex.
But I was like, no, this would be funny.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We didn't apologize.
We've been friends.
I'm a nice guy now.
I'm a nice guy.
You've always been a nice guy.
They just, you've been a little twisted.
But we've all known each other for years.
Yeah, like over five years.
Can we both just grill Alex?
They both interview Alex.
I'll be like an interviewer.
Ask him some really fucked up questions.
Okay.
Well,
Oh, but back to the jacking off thing.
I looked it up and the reason like they do that is because like back then caveman,
you if you want to have sex, you have to be the alpha.
You have to fight.
And if you are having sex, then you lose the drive to be alpha and fight because you're
already alpha.
So that's why you got to stop.
So you get the drive to be alpha again.
Oh, so it's not really physiologically.
Because I don't think that much changes, like, actually, like, you get this release.
I don't think you just, like, lose your testosterone.
You're saying it's the satisfaction.
You already have it.
Yeah.
And so you don't need to fight for it.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, it makes sense.
So if you, if you stop, then you have the drive again.
It's a mentality.
I don't know to me.
Bro, are you on drugs?
You're fired.
You're fired.
To me, everything changes.
What, when you jerk off?
When you jerk off?
When you jerk off, yeah.
I gave it up in September, but once, when you jerk off, everything changes.
everything like what like what else changes go ahead what changes what every time i jack off i go blind
in my left eye for five minutes oh shut the fuck how are you gonna hit case i if you can't see out of
your left side that's why he's not jerking off yeah he's like right before the fight
fuck he goes in a fight he's like shit we got to fight him you got to wait for the time to fight off
so like the next round you could actually fight him i did that be the funniest shit ever if you
beat him and in the press conference was like yo it was tough because like in the first like
three minutes. I couldn't see how I looked like because I was jerking it. Backstage. Yeah.
I got it back. And then we started fighting again and I got his ass. Bro, that would be the funniest post
conference fucking shit. No, imagine that. Imagine you just made jokes. If I fought someone, those are
jokes I'd make. Alex has to, Alex has to have some very interesting jokes going into this one.
Because remember how mad he got at the Skittles joke? Like when he was like, he's asking for Skittles
when he just won. Case I got super mad that I wanted candy. What? He was like, this man,
asked for candy after his fight he's such a child and I was like yo I'd love candy what you
want me to do it was my weakness like I couldn't have candy and I love candy
yo but but imagine if you set some such shit like you you beat him in the fight you're like
yo it was just tough because like every time he would like throw that right hook like the way
his shoulder look it kind of like imagine I saw the ripples in it I was like damn did you guys
did you guys see that in slow motion too but then I knew I had to fight yeah yeah just kept going
you know like that's the dude if I fought that's what I would do I swear to god
temper did a good job at trolling he was hilarious the whole time so what was
that like he lost but then he won like because i saw the highlights and i was like this dude won
they said it was a split decision and that kenny won and then anybody that watched it saw that
if it was a split decision if it was a split decision it was it should have gone to tommy and then
they appealed it and he got unanimous decision every every watch it in person or no i was warming up
okay so i watched it in person oh you were there yeah of course Alex is fighting oh i didn't know you
were there yeah he jumped in the ring and everything i was scared he got cussed out by my coach
Get the fuck out of there
Yeah, because he was being too excited
I got too excited
And we thought the crowd was going to like turn
Powell because they were
Like we didn't feel safe even watching the fight
We didn't have our seats
And the Josh's team was yelling at us
It was crazy
Yeah, um
Temper had won in the there
You saw it in person
Yeah, yeah
Okay
And I was standing with phase
Because I'm ready for the celebration
And then they gave it to Kenny
It was just a dead stop
Everyone was like what the fuck
Everyone was the crowd even in the UK
Like what the fuck
Or were they like yeah
Um
Well, because of the whole, the whole reaction of the UK in the ring, it kind of just, and nope, the reason it was so big, nobody expected it.
The whole crowd thought it was going to temper.
So even Kenny.
So the fact that they said Kenny won, they're like, it was a pop.
Even Kenny looked confused.
He was like, yo, that's hilarious.
Then why did he get on the internet being like, I won and I'm going to show you guys why?
He changed his, he changed his tone.
Before the appeal came out, he changed his tone to be like, you know what?
I don't accept this.
Because it was too close.
He knew. He knew. He was trying to, he was like, oh, that's the only way.
These guys are so court.
It was a valid appeal, though, because the reason it was appealed, it said the judges didn't feel safe in their environment and they couldn't watch correctly because they had to watch their backs to make sure fans weren't running up to take pictures with them because the fans were that crazy.
Like a fan jumped in the ring for Alex.
Oh, yeah.
What was what was that?
Does some dude just jump in?
I don't know.
I've heard different things.
I heard he's just trying to like get his 15 minutes of fame.
And then I heard that he was yelling at me to bear and uncle fight him.
after the event.
I heard it was one of those bullies.
Oh,
he wanted to give you a kiss.
And he was like,
holy shit,
this all makes sense now.
It made sense.
And I was like,
damn,
that's it.
I'm like,
Kevin,
is that you?
What was the kid's name?
Kevin?
It was good.
Oh,
fuck,
dude.
So anyways,
but we didn't get back to this,
we didn't get back to this,
uh,
dating thing,
the Lauren thing.
Yeah.
Did,
what?
Why do you make that face?
It's not,
it's not crazy.
Okay.
It's not crazy.
Not yet.
So did that end like crazy or?
I it didn't I feel like it didn't end crazy but it like she would take little jabs at me throughout the years like for years oh after little jabs like on her podcast on her video and I'm like oh why like it got to the point where I had the text her and be like hey can you just stop saying my name because she was saying your name yeah she was just always being like oh well Alex and like she's like he's a nicest guy ever and then throw a jab after and then I'm like yo this is I know you're like it's your past it's your experience
answer you want to talk about it but it's been three years can you like just not put me in a bad
light anymore and she's like I always say like you're a great guy you're a nice guy and I'm like
yeah but you immediately follow it with an insult so it's like I'm being politely insulted and do I have
to do this my whole life and she was like you're right and then she stopped um but yeah why why did
it ed because I never really understood that I think man I don't know I think this is what I think
if like if I had more time to think about it whatever but I think she was ready for things I
wasn't ready for yeah like uh she was ready for things that i was just like i'm not i'm not sure i'm
there yet like family shit and yeah and she was like pushing it um like moving in together and like
she would always bring it up like every few months and with the house you guys bought together we were
talking about this was that the like pretty white house yeah oh i love that oh it was yeah it's a nice
house yeah you're gonna be a great father i hope so that's what i want to do that's what i want to
i was born to be a dad that's what i want to be so look at us dude i was born to dad i'll be a dad i'll be a
I'll be your kid's uncle, you can be my kid's uncle.
Bradley's kids are going to beat up our kids.
They're going to be wrestling.
Give me your lunch, no, maybe.
Yeah.
My kids are going to be like, can we please talk about this?
No, it's too late for that.
Because I learned for me.
Channel kids aren't supposed to watch when they're young.
That's what's a channel like on TV that kids aren't supposed to watch when they're young?
Because your kids are watching Disney.
My kids are watching Nickelodeon.
His kids.
Adult swim.
Adult swim.
Or like they're on the internet, fucking watching fuck shit.
Or no boys.
They'll be watching no boys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it is what it is.
Yeah, but me and Lauren, yeah, we're good now.
I think, like, if we saw each other, like, we see, we have similar friend groups.
So I do run into her sometimes, and it's completely fine.
That was the thing that I realized because I had, I was with you guys enough and I was like,
yo, they have all the same friends.
So I was like, that was to have been somewhat complicated after the relationship.
Um, a little bit, but like, we're adults.
Like, it's not like we're in high school or like in our early 20s.
It's not.
Oh, muffin's been.
She's happy to be back, but it's not like we're kids. Like we can deal with it. It's fine. Our friends aren't like, I have to be only friends with one of them. We're friends of both of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck, man. I, I, I'm so glad I never put any of my relationships on the internet. Yeah. I'm saying, but I'm getting to the point now where like I kind of want to. Don't. Don't. You said, until it's definitive. Until you know that that's the woman and who I learned that by, his brother. His brother was was was was was was, was. Was. Was. Was. Was.
with one of the biggest
YouTubers, girl
YouTubers, like, on the
platform, but stayed quiet the entire
relationship until
they got married.
And then, so, okay. I mean, they still vlog, but they were
best friends. Like, they didn't, like, kiss.
They didn't say any relationship stuff.
But it protected the relationship.
Like, it kept it safe. Like, you don't have...
Do you think relationships on the internet, like,
just always get fucked because, like, the audience
starts, like, picking things apart?
It only, it depends on if the,
reason they're they're going online for like if I'm married and I'm just having fun and I'm I'm
just recording and documenting my life with my wife that's fine but if you're if you're doing it
for views and you're like oh we got to do this so we can get views we got to do this to be trending
we got to do this like if we don't do this then it gets like is it business or a relationship
it kind of blurs the lines and then intentions get blurred because why is the boyfriend
surprising the girlfriend in said way on said day in such spectacular fashion would he do
that if the camera's wearing on and he's not about to get a fat YouTube ad sense check
And it fucks with the actual like I'm sure the connection yeah like the questioning of like wait is this let's say that video performs bad how do they both then feel about said relationship oh people don't love us do we love ourselves it's like it's all fucked it's so crazy man like social media has changed so much about how we interact and like just have relationships in general not even if you're a creator yeah just in the world in general like for people like I don't know that the even the ease of access to getting in contact with people.
everything is just so much more like readily available that it's like it's somewhat kind of
fucked you know what I'm saying and just dating in general not just dating as a content creator like
just for everyone listening it's like I don't know like if you have like a female's like you got a bad
bitch or something it's like someone's going to DM your girl for sure like some athlete yeah
she has like 10,000 followers 20 like they're going to start coming in it's just crazy man not only that
in in like the medieval times or whatever not the medieval times even if I was like if you had
girlfriend that's all you know you go home that's all you see now you have your girl you're
content with her you sit on the toilet you go on your phone you can see a thousand different girls
yeah who look however perfect they look whatever and your mind is getting skewed bro you know what
i find crazy you can go on instagram and if you click on a girl like or a picture of a girl right
on your explore page i i mean this is like all it's not just girls it's like all related content
you keep scrolling down
you find more of the similar content
Oh yeah right
So if you look at a girl and you scroll
You'll find more similar girls
Like looks wise
Yes bro it's fucking weird
I swear to God
It's crazy that in our day and age
You can talk to a girl
Just like on an app
Or on whatever
And then she shows up
She'll show up
And then you're like whoa
You don't have to go to a bar
You don't have to meet
I have a meet cute
In a library or anything like that
Yeah it's crazy
But that's why it's so different
It's like
I think it fucks with people's like
ego so much more especially the guy's ego because it's like and the girl's getting bigger but the
guys is like yo I have so much more to almost look out for my girl has curly hair um like big long
curly hair yeah and ever since I got with her my entire feed girls with curly hair that's what I'm telling
you I'm telling you if you click on a picture and you scroll up and it just keeps showing you like
more suggested content it's like similar whatever you clicked on originally yeah it's it's like I said
if it's car stuff you see a bunch of cars yeah if it's like it's like I said if it's a
guy you see like a fitness guy you see a bunch of fitness yeah it was like a girl with like curly
hair you see a bunch of girls with curly hair that's crazy i have a question for alec yeah you've done
muffin you're about to get beat up no muffin muffin muffin okay you have done a lot in your career
and i've watched it like you've done you've done voice acting you've done tv shows you've done
you've done youtube you've done everything right and now when if you've done if you've done if you
wanted to you could be like deuces like you know I'm good off this now you're doing
boxing yeah do you think boxing is the cherry on top to your career or do you think
there's going to be another chapter after boxing or is boxing like your yes I did it I beat my
bully yeah who has a crush there's another bully and I'm out oh no I should not have said
no it's amazing that's amazing that's crazy that's crazy it was funny the way you did it
the funny the way you brought it up yeah when you said it when he first said it I was like
holy shit that was my mind I was like wait he said that
It was funny.
What was the question again?
Oh,
so boxing.
It's just the final chapter of Alex Wasabi.
Like is this the cherry on top?
Like, yes,
I'm leaving on a bang.
I mean,
I don't really look that far into the future because I live in the present.
But all I know,
all I know for sure is like this year I want to box.
Next year,
I kind of want to focus on being a dad.
Like I want to,
I mean,
not a dad.
Sorry.
Finding the one and then being a dad.
Yeah.
But with boxing,
like it's hard to have a relationship and I I wouldn't get into a relationship
knowing that I couldn't be 100% the boyfriend I would want to be so if I'm boxing
I know that I can't be that guy what about what about as a father if you became a father
let's say you found the right one yeah you became a father would you make content around your kid
or would you just you know like would you make that the kids got talent but like no I'm just
a boring ass kid not even not even get off my camera not even I just be like would you film that
whole problem like would you make that a part of your content i think i would because i it's just i
want i would want to for like it would be cool like audience can watch it whatever but for me and my
wife to look back for my kid to look back when he's 18 at at that stuff he's going to be like
dad why didn't you vlog that you vlog for your whole life and you didn't vlog me getting born you didn't
block me yeah it'd be kind of weird yeah it'd be really when i think about that all the content
i made over the i never really like look too much into that it's like it's like a giant like
not yearbook but it's just a ton of memories that'll always kind of be there yeah
You're like your son would be like or daughter would be like what the fuck yeah and they'd be like you're a professional documenter and you didn't document that come on yeah it'd be cool man I think like yeah I play around with it if I'm like fuck if I had a kid would I show it I feel like I almost it would feel so natural to me because like the rest of my life is pretty much on social media yeah even though like there's things that I've not put on or I try to like you know keep more private for myself but that's something that like I'd want to show that
the world about because it's like I'd be proud of it you know and and it's something I've
always wanted yeah whenever I have a kid that's my life I'm like this is my whole being
this is my purpose is my kid and my wife but my kid okay and my wife yeah kid kid and then
well I mean I feel like that's how it goes I don't know because I was talking to someone or both
equally I was talking to a married couple one time and I asked him I was like yo kid your kid or your wife
if you had to save one he's like my wife and I was like why
And he's like, I can make another kid.
I can't make another wife.
I can't make.
There's only one of her.
And I was like, what?
That's a crazy way to think about it.
Wait, that doesn't that the same?
Isn't that the same both directions though?
Yeah, I guess.
But they're like, I can have another kid.
I can't have, I can't get this wife again.
I'm like, well, I know there is some.
All right.
I know that there is importance in like relationships lasting and being able to last in which, like,
you can't just have a kid and forget about your spouse.
Mm-hmm.
You have to be able to still be that, like, loving, caring individual to that person.
Otherwise, like, then they're going to start to resent you.
if you just put all your focus and effort and energy onto a kid and not like the actual relationship itself
because that I mean that's I think that's so important because you want a kid to grow up and see like a healthy relationship not one where it's like I'm all I'm all on this kid and you know the woman's all on the kid but they're not on each other in a sense of like loving and carry then there's like you know issue I think it's important for a relationship to last and to be like that like version of a loving caring relationship to like continue to really be there for each other and not.
just direct all focus to a kid. So I think you're right. Have you, uh, what's the, what's
what's the, what's the neck crack? Oh, something serious. Uh, what have you, have you, have you ever
thought you found the one? Yeah. I love it. Fuck. Bro, I mean, yeah, at one point in my life. Yeah.
Yeah. And then, and then kind of, dude, I think, I feel like now, too. I feel like I'm getting there.
Oh, like currently. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, you remember.
I dated, I dated a girl for a very, very long time, eight years.
And that was like just a crazy relationship.
I mean, like, I don't know if you want me telling you about it, but like, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I thought that was the one.
Yeah, I remember you were crying and you were like showing me pictures and.
Yeah.
And you're eating ice cream.
Yeah.
I thought that was the one.
I was super sad, but, you know, it's like, I don't know.
I guess for something and something that long, that long relationship, you almost like,
You start to be like, no, this has to work because like I put so much into it.
I put so much time into it.
But then you start thinking, I do have a long future though.
Like is, is there nothing, I mean, is this the, is this, am I settling or is this the one?
Yeah.
All these thoughts go through your head.
I started thinking like, am I just trying to make this work because of like my ego not letting this go?
Yeah.
Because like, I remember there was times a little bit early on where like we would fight so much that I, in like the back of my mind and be like, fuck, this isn't going to work.
But I wanted to work so bad.
Yeah.
But I wasn't listening to that other voice being like, this is just.
It's not going to work.
I think that's what happened with me and Lauren, too.
We were together for like two years.
And then the last year I started kind of falling out of love and I stayed in it.
What do you think cause falling out of love for you?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean, it was probably like a year and a half.
We were like in love, in love.
And then the second year, the second half of the relationship, I was like starting to fall out of it.
But I was fighting to stay in it because I was hoping that I would feel differently.
I was hoping I was hoping.
And like, that's just what I was hoping for.
And I was like, come on, please.
Like, we can fix this.
We can fix this.
And they just never got fixed.
Yeah.
That's what I mean, I don't know if mine was more so like, I was hoping that it was like
the next thing or the next, you know, month, it was enough.
Yeah.
Like for me, it was always like, oh, man, I wasn't doing enough or I wasn't, you know,
if I just said this or if I just had that conversation in time or if I didn't do this
and I did that instead, I was always like, man, this time I'm going to get it.
Next, this time.
Because like we would break up legit, dude.
No, I'm not even like zero cap.
we would break up every fucking three weeks
be back together for like three weeks
break up three like for six years
oh six fucking years
I was in something like that for two months and it was too much
six years dog I was trying like
and I I felt bad
because like obviously like I made so many fucking mistake
I'm not saying this is her fault I made so many
mistakes like fucking trust up
in the beginning that it's like I couldn't expect her to just
look past the things and then
and then new things just started to come up
and I just remember so much resistance like yo I just want
this to work so bad that I was like I'm just going to
fucking do everything I can and even when it was everything I could I always felt like fuck
it just wasn't the right time it wasn't enough said it wasn't I didn't do enough of the right
things and it just ended that way I think it was Lauren and Lexi it was both my fault
it is my fault it didn't work out I mean it was 100% my fault you should didn't work out I'm not
even gonna I mean I wish she would have been able to look past things in the past yeah because I
remember one point I think we we were arguing once and I was like yo this is from six years ago
like why are we talking about this and it just it never we were
were never able to get past that point where it was like dude how can we how can we be bringing
and like talking about something from six years ago to make it a relevant point today yeah
then that was the bigger thing from my head was like yeah we just had to go past this but what what
what what happened like why do you think it was always your fault i just like my like with lexio's
boxing got in the way i was just and then with lauren i i think it might have been the
youtube that killed us like documenting which because like that was like the first relationship that
either of us have put online i think like that heavily and then it did get like kind of blurry
it's like yeah it had to be we got to make a video yeah it's like her channel your channel
yeah oh yeah we both had a channel so i had to make a video for her channel or we film mine and
then uh i'm too tired to do hers i'm like can we do yours tomorrow and she gets mad and like
or like the video ideas better here yeah yeah even like even when we broke up and we made
a breakup video she said dibs she's like i'm doing this video yeah she's like i get the video
because you're bringing up or like I didn't break up with her but she was like I get the video
I was like okay cool you can have it you got it dude it's so crazy like 10 million of years
or something like that yeah yeah you guys have you got a crazy ass like audience dude yeah
like dude so so do you think your audience has grown up like now do you think they're ready
to accept like the scumbag Alex wasabi I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm obviously not a scumbag
I actually I've got so much hate but then I got so much respect for being a nice guy
but then I've seen comments that say
okay is he a nice guy or is he
an insidious genius
and he's just playing the good guy card
because either like because it's rare
to see somebody this nice or is he acting
you should start coming out just being disrespectful
yeah like blatantly disrespectful
you know what you're a butt head
no no you're a piece of shit oh
yeah yeah yeah fuck that guy I got baby steps
no no no go straight forward
all the words you picked you said butthead
that's what I'm saying that's what he does
but you should come out one video and just be like
like me all right give me line what should I say for KSI for anybody yeah no yo I mean yeah
hold on a second this is good for what do you want to see Alex Wasabi say on your podcast
bro he call him a bitch call him a bitch and tell him you're gonna beat the shit out of him
and his brother was fucking light work and like basically he's just easy that that shit was just
easy money too he's a pussy I feel it this is just not me you got to give me a
Direct line.
Like, give me a sentence and I'll say that sentence.
KSI.
KSI.
You're a bitch.
You're a bitch.
Your brother was light work.
Your brother is light work.
And you're crispy cream donuts.
And you're crispy cream donuts.
And I'm going to eat you.
I'm going to eat you up.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, bro.
You might get a little excited for that one.
Oh, no.
I got to work out.
We got to practice.
I'll come over.
We'll practice.
We got to work on.
We'll just talk each other for hours.
Come in here with your fucking crazy dog.
We got to come in here.
You said, you got to ask him a question.
What do you guys think?
You guys think I'm a nice guy in real life or you think I'm acting?
No, you're a super fucking nice guy.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
You're actually, you're actually, you hated it?
I debated that for a while.
Oh, debated it.
I never debated it.
I never debated it.
For why?
Because I was that I was using you?
No, but there are times where I'm like, I just, I couldn't find the line.
I was like, is this really him or is he like you said?
Yeah.
He's genius.
But then there are times where like I actually saw how you, I think it was London, actually.
That made, you're not going nowhere.
That made me realize, oh, this is Alex.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, it took five years.
No, I noticed it right away.
I mean, enough, like, off-camera stuff.
I was like, oh, this is just, that's who, this is who he is.
Yeah.
You've always been a super fucking nice guy.
The way you handled London, I think you're not even your win.
I think the way you handled London, handled the adversity.
And it was your documentary or a fight documentary.
If you guys haven't watched that, watch it on his channel.
It's truly inspiring.
I think that taught so many people something.
because you literally, you had everything against you.
Yeah.
You had people cussing you out in person.
You had people throwing stuff at you.
You had people disrespecting you hardcore.
You kept smiling.
You didn't stoop to their level even once.
You should have stooped to their level.
And you still came out on top.
He's like the angel and the devil on my shoulders.
They're all fucking pussies anyways.
They just talk shit to talk shit.
Yeah.
People were like, people were like, how did you handle all that?
And I was like, I don't know.
I've never been in that situation.
What you guys saw is what I was seeing happening to
When it was happening, then I'm like, oh, I guess this is how I react to it
Came out there like this
But imagine
Fuck you, pussy
If that's what he got for fighting Dejy
Oh, they're gonna throw shit at you for fighting KSI
So it was just a little, Dejia was just a taste of what I'm about to
Like I said, he was light work
Fucking KSI's Kris cream donuts on a cheat day
Full 12 box
You better fall in love with Chris cream donut
Yeah, fall in love with him kiss them
I don't know what's happening right
They both make it very hard icons
Talking about sexualizing Krispy Kreme Donuts
Just be like
Yo, I watch your sparring footage
It was hot, bro
That should be funny
That'll get to kiss
I do it, bro
That's what I'll be doing
You want me to hit on him?
Yes, it's so funny
It'll throw it, he'll be like, what the fuck?
Maybe, you know?
I agree
Then eventually
He'll come out, see
And then we can start our lives
Imagine
Yo, you're funny.
Yo, how historic would it be?
Oh, you just start our lives together, finally.
I hate that I can't even say a thing like this
because of a sexual assault these days
and drawing the lines because I don't mean it.
It's like, have you a good way to start anything?
If you got to say that before,
what you're about to say, it's never a good thing.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
That's the thing.
I hate that I have to preface what I'm about to say.
Oh, just say, who gives them fun?
There was two women fighters one time doing a face-off.
One of them kissed the other
because they were like nose to nose.
And then she got slapped.
Imagine if Alex KS.
That'd be dope.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Run that up.
I feel like it's like inside out.
Like all the feelings in his head would go crazy.
They'd be running around.
Dude, you throw them off, dude.
Like SpongeBob, the file cabinet's on fire.
I'd buy that NFT of you kissing Kaysai.
That would be worth the money.
Yeah, dude, it would be funny.
They were the exact same height.
So like.
It'd be right there.
You guys face off.
Like fuck the fist, dude.
What if we kiss and then we fuse like like super sands?
Wow.
It just become this.
this black Asian, blasian guy, just like, ultimate boxer.
Do you think you're going to become friends after?
Do you think it's one of those?
I don't know, man.
Like, I thought with DeGi, hopefully, maybe, possibly.
With KSI, he really does not like me.
And I've seen, like, clips on the internet of his, like, side men.
Like, they are all like, yo, he's such a nice guy.
Are you sure he doesn't like you, though, for real?
I don't know.
He's a nice dude.
I don't know.
I mean, maybe it's just an online thing, but that's what I thought with Edgy and I was correct.
You're saying based on the video he made, like the death that he went and you're like,
this guy really doesn't like me.
Yeah, but also like just the consistency of the hate.
Like, it was pretty consistent for like a year, I think.
Was it random enough?
You were like, why did he say that?
Yeah, he'll just randomly like call me a clown and I'm like, why?
Why?
Like, that's done.
But I don't know.
Maybe he doesn't hate me.
Maybe it's just the online thing.
But I'm going to fight him either way.
So is this going to happen?
I'm manifesting it.
I'm hoping.
Yeah.
I'm going to do it too.
I want this to happen.
I manifest shit.
I want this to happen.
Let's make it happen.
I want to see this fight.
Here, let's do it here.
Bro, I'd love that.
I don't want to.
The one didn't kill me.
Could you imagine?
Like, but if he fought, did you see what KSI said about him?
I talked about it earlier.
What?
That if he fought him.
He'll never do music and.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's like a fucking tall fucking statement.
Yeah.
Like that's coming back from that.
Because your fans, if you lose, he's so convinced he's going to be.
you then yeah because if you lose his fan's gonna be like i mean he sees me as
that far beneath him yeah and i'm like dang that you must hate me you don't even see me as
like a man like i love that i love that he sees you that way i mean yeah i want you to fight him
so bad i i will i will fight him which i will fight him that's all i don't even know i was
going to say after that it so bad yeah you'll fight him be like i will fight that pussy bitch
i will fight that pussy bitch motherfucker motherfucker fuck the uk
fuck the no no no no no no no I love the UK I love you okay I try to get you you got me
you all into it oh fuck can I ask where does the confidence come from in in terms of
case I like obviously you just came off of a gigantic win yeah like where is this like
it's I told him it's just I don't see him as a god like his fans do I see him as a man and I'm a
man and we're equal I don't care what he says we're equal he can say oh you have a
high voice okay well let me punch you in the face and we'll see what's up like it's
everything he talks about he's like irrelevant or uh my voice or how i look i look or how i
act or eating candy that has nothing to do with boxing and he's and like his fan base is like
yeah no you're not ready for kSI he's not in a different level i'm like what level we're the same
record and he beat he he he we only fought once with no headgear both of us and like he only has
weight on me everyone's like what about his power when he comes down the way wait we're
going to be the same weight this is my house this is my territory he's coming he's a visitor in
in in my weight and i'm going to show him like i can't go up anymore like my max weight is like
170 stretching it would be 175 yeah so if he came down to 175 and i was 170 i'll fight him
puck i want to see it so bad yeah i mean i it's just people are just so convinced that
he's a great boxer and i don't see it wow
Damn. I think you were convinced you were a great boxer at one point.
That was right before, I think I was right before you wanted to get your nose done, right?
I had a month and a half, bro.
I didn't have time.
But listen, all I know is I saw, why not making this about you?
I'm making fun of you right now.
I feel bad.
I just remember watching you box and I feel like you just put your face out there to get beat.
He just wanted a nose job that bad.
That's the only way I can do it.
I saw the fight.
I was like he wanted to fucking change his knuckles.
Look, I'm going to take a recipe out of Alex Wasabu.
confidence book okay with my stamina now and my surprise I could be a great boxer
no you you probably would be a better boxer I think I could be a great boxer if I
sure when I look back at that fight I'm just thinking I always think why did he
how did he not knock you down after four rounds of yeah no I'm not gonna lie he must
have been you took a lot of so you must have no no slim is strong as but how did you
not go down his hands are as long as the Nile when that shit reaches you
Yeah, but how did you not go down?
You got hit like a thousand times.
That's what I'm going to say this.
What did you say?
I don't know if you said it here because I don't want to say it.
Yeah.
When you were like, when Deji didn't throw a punch, there was a reason and you said people weren't.
Can I say it?
Yeah.
What?
People weren't giving you credit.
Oh, yeah.
People weren't giving me credit for beating him and stopping him from punching.
They're just saying he didn't punch.
That's why he lost.
Alex made the point that it's not that Deji wasn't throwing punches.
It's just that Alex trained for Dejie and made sure that he couldn't get his punches off.
and people were giving them credit.
So in that same vein,
people, as much as I got my ass kick,
at least give me that credit,
I'm a strong,
like, I got,
like, I think about how many times
I fell in my career
and came back up,
I'm strong in here.
I'm just surprised you didn't get knocked out.
I know.
Or you got hit so many times.
Nothing.
You didn't touch your grip.
Exactly.
It's great.
I feel like if I had four hours
to cleanly hit you in the face,
I would have knocked you down.
Yeah.
You're saying you just got a strong jaw.
Let me punch you in the face.
Let's just try it.
Yeah.
just an experiment yeah just do it live on the podcast come on don't be a pussy you can
come on i got gloves i'll let you punch me i'll let you punch me first
no he's only two six i got gloves it's not like he's 300 you no god damn it this normally
why do you even invite him i know it's fucking loser what was about ks i was about ks i don't think
ks i has room now to say like to say no to fight alex no if alex is on bradley martin's
podcast calling him out saying I want to fight you I'll beat you but he can't just say oh
Alex is nothing he's light work I'll beat him but also like he said he's so convinced he's
going to beat Alex you know I always said this before that he's going to quit music and like
all this shit if he loses correct but if he tries to use the excuse oh Alex is not worth my time
I have bigger opponents I don't I won't accept that now because it's like now I want to see it
because Alex like you said Alex is a man is saying I want to fight you you can't just
choose to say Alex is nothing he's light
work. Show us.
Well, I want to see.
I mean, he, get paid the bag.
Get in the ring.
Well, he literally made it sound like this is like I'm going to, I could show up right now.
Punch Alex in a face.
In a free event.
He said a free event.
He said, I want to make my fans pay.
I want to see this so bad.
So he has to now.
I don't, I'm getting paid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want to see this so bad, dude.
Yeah, I do too.
So I don't think he's dumb ass convinced.
Yeah.
And I love that.
I mean, Dejou was convinced too.
Because if, if you, everybody was convinced for Deadji.
Of course.
If you were, if you.
If you upset this, it'd be the, it'd be so beautiful, man.
Yeah.
Just be like a beautiful thing.
It'd be like, I love shit like that.
Good guy wins.
Like, if he upset KSI, like, if he actually won.
I don't know what is, like, YouTube will change forever.
Like, it'll be weird.
Yeah.
Dude, you'd have to, you'd have to fight Logan next.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's who you'd have to fight next.
They'll never be in the same way class.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's just like, I have to come my weight class.
I mean, I guess like, 180?
I feel like he could drop.
No, he's like, too.
I feel like 190.
at the minimum oh wait but he did look he does look skinny recently he hasn't been
working lifting I don't know it'd be hard to find somebody because they had to be my
weight class and when I beat KSI then I feel like Austin's like taking a step back so I don't
even know if I would want to fight Austin after KSI so you've been looking at this and
obviously you're you're like heavily involved this one of career now is boxing stuff
who should Jake fight next like who do you think he should fight next a boxer but
like a real boxer yeah I'm not on that sentiment of oh
he needs to fight a real boxer because if you look at anybody's record from canello to to floyd to
pack yeah and look at their first 20 fights 25 fights even more and this is not including their
amateur career this is just including their pro career they fought absolute scrubs that's just what
you do so for jake to be on his what fifth fight and people saying fight somebody reputable somebody
thing it's like nah man give him time i think and this is what i proposed a while back what jake should
done do fights on the low like just to build up your record fight bums get your confidence
up get your thing up just so you can have that you know to get better and then be able to fight
people more down the line when we say fight pros don't mean like the top pros we're talking about like
small pros like i don't think you should fight canelo like Tommy fury is a good match like that's a
good match yeah like yeah Tommy fury had one of those padded record bullshit where it's like you
fight a bunch of scrub Tommy would be a good fight yeah yeah but it's like he doesn't want to do
I mean, I get why, where Jake does it.
He does it because he's like, he's going for the biggest bag, the biggest.
Yeah, exactly.
And that's where Jake's going.
Like, that's why he's going to go for a Connor, a Mazvedal because he just wants that.
He knows what's going to, like, think about Connor versus Jake.
Think about how big that will be.
That would be crazy.
But he would need the same size advantage that Logan and Mayweather had.
And that's why I think he would win because he can't get down to Mayweather's.
Oh, wait, isn't Mayweather?
I mean, Connor heavier right now?
Yeah, but, yeah.
Like 180?
Because he took time off training.
Yeah.
But like, if he started.
training for a fight he's going to be smaller and he also looks bigger because he's short and he also
looks bigger because he's short I don't think he would take that fight I think
McGregor like Mayweather's good enough to handle somebody 30 pounds heavier I don't
think McGregor is and he was talking about and he was talking about do it
MMA with this guy that's what I'm mad about Jake about what it's like you're
doing so good in this boxing thing I'm a huge fan of you don't risk this whole
thing by going saying and I'm not trying to and again I'm discrediting him like
everybody did in boxing but I don't want to see it all go down
because he chooses MMA.
And that's literally the thing he just made.
He said, I'll fight you, MMA or boxing.
To who?
Con.
Oh, I mean, that weight advantage is a big thing.
Yeah.
And the reach and the height.
But MMA, like...
And it sucks because he can't go through, like, new people.
Like, YouTubers aren't doing MMA.
So you'd have to find another YouTuber that just started so that they can be even.
Like, with boxing, he was boxing deadgy for the first time.
They should just let me fight, Jake, in MMA.
Yeah.
See, because I, now he can finally fight someone bigger.
Yeah.
And I'm not as experienced.
in it what's the what's the lightest you could get to if you if the bag was right
dude the bag was right i weigh 250 right i've been dieted i've been training for the last like
few weeks to lose weight yeah uh and i was 260 i'm like 250 i don't know maybe i can get down
like i don't know i'd be fucking shred like 2 30 is that when's the last time you're 2 30
fucking in like in middle school
fucking 20 dude i don't know what the fuck 23 maybe i was 2 30 and then i just kept going up
And then I got to around 260, and I didn't, I like, my biggest was 275, but I always fluctuated 250 to like 265 for like the last fucking six years or something.
But I think that's a great fight because like, remember, it's like it's his own thing.
A little bigger guy, less trained.
I don't have boxing, striking.
Fuck it.
Man, I do not want to take just a bare elbow to the face.
There's no padding on your elbow.
I'm fucking with me.
Or your knees or your shins.
I don't think anybody should ever fight you.
I've said that time and time I'm going to.
That's just crazy.
Yeah, but fuck it
That'd be dope, bro
That'd be a good fight
He's got more striking experience
Better boxing
You didn't make a point there
And that makes sense
I want to just
Anyways, yeah
I would love that
That'd be sick
And that'd be like the dopest fight
For me right
But it's like obviously
I understand the whole clout game
Like you know
He's got a lot more clout
Like if he's not gonna try to do it
I understand that whole fucking thing
You know
So I'm not like naive to all that shit
I just think it'd be sick
Or Logan
So you if you did fight
It would be more for the money
Or for the like
You just want to fight
Fight fight
That's me too
Honestly, I would do, listen, this is how serious I'm about doing it with them.
I would do it no camera, just do it.
Oh, okay.
I don't even care about like the whole clout chase money thing.
I don't give a fuck.
I would love to just do it.
Oh, I want to do it on camera, but like money's not a big thing, but I just want, I just want to compete on a big stage.
That's all I want.
No, that's dope.
I love that.
Building up, I was like, yo, I just want to fight.
I know you hate me.
You can say whatever you want.
I just want to fight.
I came here to fight.
Don't care about the money.
I mean, I sent my little brother to college that was important, but like money wasn't the
Big drive. It was I just want to fight. Yeah. And like I feel like it was hard for him to comprehend. He's like, no, you want it for cloud. You want it for relevancy. I was like, no, dude, I just want to fight. Yeah, Alex came in it with a different mindset. And the most fascinating thing about Alex was how calm he was. Because even when I rewatch the fight and rewatch his documentary, you see him before he walks the ramp. When he was stretching and getting ready, he was where he needed to be. He was very calm. Yeah. Every time I've seen you box like when I saw you in person like, you know, years ago when you first were doing it, you always. You always.
look good you know you never look bad you never look yeah like super cute yeah but you never
look scared you never look scared you never look scared that's what i noticed like you're boxing like
even when it wasn't going your way you were never like scary yeah you were always in there no matter
what yeah remember that that that that goose gym whatever yeah that first time i saw him i think do you
have anything new that you're gonna add on this training camp now you obviously don't have to say
what you're gonna add but do you plan on like intensifying things doing things oh yeah going bigger
There were just things that I, like, it was like a, the first camp for DeGi was more like a trial and error thing.
Like there's things that at the end I was like, man, I could have done this more.
I should have been working more on this or I could have pushed it here because of this.
And so there's a lot of things that I figured out.
So this next camp's going to be like maximum effort.
Like, what if instinct, plus ultra?
Ultra instinct.
What if KSai asked for lower ounce gloves?
That's fine.
You're with that?
Yeah.
It becomes in my weight
I love it, all the smoke
It becomes to my weight
You can have whatever you want
I want to go gloveless
We should just bear knuckle
Yeah, let's just bear knuckle
That'd be sick, bro
That's the next wave
It's either MMA or bare knuckle
No YouTubers are down for that
Bear knuckle
Just on the street
Fuck it, just pull up
Yeah
That'd be dope
Just like you know like street beefs
Like YouTube street beefs
That shit's sick
Dude should just be like that
Like Kimbo slice fights
Backger fights
Backyard fucking shit
Where that guy got his face busts
Oh wait didn't
um blue face and a YouTuber or something like that did bare knuckle before was that
they fought they fought out of bare knuckle fighting but they had gloves yeah they had gloves
yeah some other kids didn't like what was the other kid um christians of them was it or
there's some guy that they say steals everyone's content he was on reality he was on the reality show
with me i don't remember they mean some skinny white uh yeah fuck my mind is going blank
he's got glasses huh no we he's a guy i know his name he's a guy i feel bad now fuck
Kind of fucking disband. I thought it was Christian. I didn't I'm not I don't know
I feel bad yeah I'm not trying to dis well we all know who we're talking about yes that's that's that's important
He fought blueface you could just Google yeah um would you ever do bare knuckle no no no I mean I see just as a sport I see it as like
I mean uh boxing is chess it's a sport it's competition I'm not I see like a blood sport yeah you see it's a blood
Yeah you see it how dead you in case I talk in the press conference like I'm gonna kill you I'm gonna eat you I'm a break
you part dismantle you i'm gonna your your kids are gonna feel this when i punch you in the face and i'm
like all right i just want to box like i just want to fight you you can say whatever you want
has anybody ever broken anybody's face in youtube boxing has anybody ever eaten the other person
in youtube oh you well bro you were fighting like this
this is literally i swear to god this is this is foosy would you say you have the worst loss
in youtube history yeah i made a video on it's undebatable that's under i made a video on that
That's the thing
But the audience respects it now
Because whenever I'm in an interview
Even when I was in London
Talking about Alex
And they bring up my boxing
I say
Oh, I suck at boxing
I'm the worst boxer ever
And people are like, yeah, glad he knows
So it's not like I'm sitting here
I'm sitting here trying to be like
Yeah
Damn, but who'd you box?
Oh, there's two names.
There's two names here?
Oh wait
Don't say it now
We'll talk after
I don't know
No, what the fuck you mean?
Say it
No
Guess
Two names
Okay
Bryce Hall
That'd be a
good one bryce hall what are oh you wait oh you've been running it's a similar weight now right
wait who's the other one i know that's got to be joe weller no no no anyways wait wait
there's another person that you box who is it say it no who got to guess it brysall's
definitely one of them because he didn't say no that and it's not joe who else is that
say it you got to say it i don't know i don't know no just say it you pussy stop being a bitch
bro.
You, you, you.
I'm talking about you.
I'm trying to think of like who would be a good match.
No, who does he have an issue with is what it sounds like?
He said there's two people that you know.
There's the price and then.
Who else?
Like KSI or KSI and Deji, do you have any beef with them or no?
Come on, bro.
I can't even remember.
He has so much beef with so many people.
Yeah, you should fight Keeam.
You know what would be crazy?
What?
Kee.
You know what would be crazy?
You versus KSI.
uh-huh main yeah and then who are the like i'm one of your best friends yeah i have the
worst loss yeah deadies case i's brother he has three losses that's the worst youtube is that the
worst youtube record yeah me versus degy on the undercar oh let's go did you do that would you do
it was daddy he's he's been edgy hounding oh that what we tried so hard to get you to say that he's just
threw it out there and then i was like because we brought that he's been he's been won and he
what's it and he like everybody just sees me as an easy opponent so I got two offers
recently one was Bryce one was Dejian oh fuck that's fucking that's good I just
circle you K-sai me Deji because then I can be on your training camp and you can
teach me how to be a good boxer I'm be busy teaching myself I would be a better
doctor you just watch yeah get a coach bro what the fuck so would you box them yeah
oh man if they give me enough time dude it if okay here's the deal I have to say this
right now you beat Dejie he's he can't box
anymore.
I think he's no box.
No, he can't.
Because he said he wasn't in a box.
He said he wasn't in a box when Alex beats him.
Yeah, but if you, it's like you're the nail in the coffin.
You're like the only one that's beneath me.
Yeah, dude.
In the boss of the world.
If you beat that guy, he's done.
Boxing.
I mean, there's no way around that.
Let's do it.
Yeah, we'll see.
If they give me enough time, it's going to be one of them.
Damn, you should do that.
But it sounds like it's going to be Bryce and Dejy first.
We'll see.
How much time do you need, do you think, to get ready?
At least four
Yeah
I think if you have a fight
Three months is good enough
Four months is great
Like you don't need more than that
What do you think the hardest part
About training for a fight is
I know my hardest part
It's gonna be the cardio
I'm already know
My hardest part was probably the heartbreak
The heartbreak
Just like when
He didn't want to give you a kiss
Yeah
Oh got it
You know people that haven't even talked
Because it was so
Yeah
We purposely didn't put it online
Yeah Alex went through a freaking
heartbreak during his training camp like and i got covid in january so that sucked in like early
january recently no yeah like two months before the fight like and i heard didgie had it too
no no second time second time okay okay yeah but i got it have time to process the breakup did you
no that's what that's what i didn't until after the fight so i'm in it right now so you were like
fighting your emotions yeah like deadgy's like there was some nights where you couldn't hit her
because she's a woman but you hit deadgy is that what you're saying
No, no, that's what you're saying.
I'm trying to sound like I don't know.
You're good.
You're good.
You're smart.
But I, uh, I, like, I didn't really process it because I was so focused on boxing
that I was like, okay, boxing, boxing, box.
And then we, and then we, and then the fight happened.
And then now, I'm, like, accepting it.
And I'm like, oh, man, like, I lost somebody special.
Yeah.
And, but there would be times, like, during my camp where I just couldn't sleep, uh,
and I would go to my garage and just hit the bag and just be, like,
hitting it and, like, like, sweating and hitting it.
hitting it as hard as I can and just tears.
Really?
Yeah.
Was that bad?
No,
it wasn't that bad,
but I was bottling it up so much.
That's the only way to get it out so I can focus back on boxing.
I'm like,
all right,
let me get this out.
Just pissed and then,
and then straight back to boxing the next day.
Well,
it's good.
It ended cordial then.
Yeah.
And on such good notes because,
like,
you guys still respect each other and everything.
Because if it had gone ugly or even public,
it'd been a way different thing.
There was,
so we were together for a year.
We broke up,
a couple months after we broke up.
I this girl popped up on my Instagram thing or a story of hers and she said what should I do all
away from my plane and I didn't know who she was and I messaged her I said respond to me and then hi
and that's it and I said that's what you should do before you get on the plane and then I wake up the
next morning to a TikTok that has like almost a million views shut the fuck up and it's her calling me
out and putting pictures of me and Lexi up everywhere and then the DM at the end and I was like
oh wait wait wait wait wait wait some random chick so random girl jammed you yeah no
I DMs her.
Okay,
you DMed her because she exposed me for DMing her.
What the fuck?
Because she thought I still had a girlfriend because we were so low key about it.
But then I messaged her and I was like,
yo,
me and Lexi broke up and we didn't make it public
because we didn't want either of to get hate.
So you didn't have to post this view to shit on her for view.
I mean,
post this TikTok for views to shit on her
and embarrass her like this.
And she immediately took it down
because she thought I was being an unloyal boy.
Yeah, yeah, I got.
And she thought she was about to get a hell of cloud.
Which is also just like where.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
Like all her TikToks had like 2,000 views, 5,000 views.
And then this one had like almost a million in a day and a night.
Oh my God.
The internet's fucking crazy with this shit.
That's what I'm saying.
The dating shit is just so different.
Yeah.
So different.
That's why I'm so happy that my girl doesn't, she has social media.
But it's like it's not her career and stuff.
Yeah.
And it sucks because I'm talking about social media so much.
It gets her to go on it so much and everything.
And I don't want that.
Yeah.
I want like better when there's just none.
What's his name?
Francisco.
I love fucking with you.
Do you don't talk about your girl at all?
No.
Any more now?
This one I'm keeping so.
I don't even show her face.
Nice.
Yeah.
That's dope.
We're all getting older.
Look at this.
Is it because you don't want it to be public?
Or is it because her face is kind of jinky?
She got a wonky eye.
Gorgeous.
She's cute.
She's gorgeous.
She is.
You got to show me.
I don't know who this is.
I'm not showing me.
Why would you not show me, bro?
What the fuck?
What is this shit?
I'm not going to show to the camera.
No, not show this.
It's show me.
Why?
Find it.
Okay, so, so are you training now, like, got back?
No.
No, relaxing.
I'm probably going to take, like, a month off because I feel like I went too hard in my last camp thinking this is how hard I have to go.
And I did not need to go that hard.
Like, I didn't.
So, wait, you were boxing this guy and you were like, this is easy.
It was more like I was having more fun than I expected.
You're like, oh, this shit's fun.
Yeah, like where I didn't have.
have to put my full focus on it and I didn't have to worry yeah because I remember I saw a clip and
you were like saying hi to someone yeah like in the later rounds I started realizing oh he's
I'm completely safe like there's nothing he can do that sucks bro for him yeah I was like he might
get I mean even even like I was only worried the whole fight about a lucky punch and I was like oh
if he gets a lucky punch where he gets me but near the later rounds I was like even if it's
lucky he's like I felt his power I was like oh I thought it was going to be more than this early on
yeah was when he was full power was it decent I mean
I would, I'm not gonna, I didn't feel it, but only because the adrenaline.
I'm sure he's strong.
I'm sure like my head popped back.
He's such a nice guy.
Look at this shit.
I'm sure my head bop back like in on camera, but in the moment, I don't feel anything.
Yeah.
But that's probably the best feeling you're fighting somebody and you're like, I got this.
Yeah.
These are pillows.
Especially after the fan ran in and it turned from a five round fight to a four round fight because we have a long break.
So it's basically a four round fight.
And I was like, wow, I've been training for five.
I'm about to go 100% for the rest of these.
Ah, because you got that break.
Yeah, we both got a break.
So I was like, wow, I'm about to turn up.
Wait, wait, what do you mean, though?
The fan.
But the time stopped.
So you still have to continue that round.
Yeah, but I had, no, it was already the second round.
But that's the point.
The time stopped, though.
Out of the way.
So I got to regenerate.
It's like taking a sensu-o-
Okay, okay, okay.
Okay.
Oh, you did post some shit like this, but it was like...
Show the camera.
And congratulations.
Oh, I don't do that.
Oh, yeah, she's beautiful.
Thank you.
Damn.
It's like my favorite hairstyle.
It's dope.
No, I love the hairstyle.
So how you not you? I'm talking about her. Are you guys a Rocky, right? What's her IG?
Yeah. I just kidding. Yeah, I love fucking with you, man. God damn. Oh, I want to see you box again, dude. Boxing with your fucking face, man. You know the one person I went on box again? Who?
Really? He's lethal now. People don't understand. Like, you got to realize what Alex did against Deji is not Alex at full form. This is his first event. He's in London. He's getting thing. There's so much. So I think we, so much. So I think we.
We saw, how much percent do we see of you?
I would say, like, maybe 60%.
I think that's even high.
But even if I do another camp, I'm going to do a whole other camp on top of what I did.
But Dejy, like, I give him credit.
He did a good job.
Like, he was hugging me a lot, but it did stop me from doing what I wanted to do.
Like, he wouldn't let me.
I had such an inside game.
Like, I worked on my inside game so much, expecting him to try to get in a bunch.
And whenever he did, he would hug me.
And then you could see at one point in the final round, I got so much.
mad i scream and i'm like get off me and i whip him around and the refs like hey you can't throw him
around and then he had to calm me down the rest i feel like if i box i'd have a problem with that
oh yeah i would want to like you'd pull a ryan taylor yeah he headbut someone right yeah i'd want
headbut someone i mean like i got to hit him yeah but i can't they're too close i got to hit
him i just i don't know that's why i got to do fucking i'm in me i can't do the boxing shit
but but yeah there's so much of my boxing skills i didn't get to put on display and i like
I didn't get to show pretty much anything.
I was just throwing ones and twos the whole time because it was working.
And since it was my first fight and I wouldn't say I was nervous, but I was just like, oh,
what's happening?
Oh, so many people.
Oh, the fan just ran in.
So I would go to the corner.
My coach would be like, Alex, this, this, this.
I'm like, got it, coach.
I go back into the exact same thing I just did in the last round.
It was cool watching that too because you would see the, I would watch coach.
I was so nervous.
I was like a dad watching.
So nervous.
And I would see coach yelling at Alex.
And Alex would just be like, yeah, got.
I got, got it.
And then he'd go out there and do the same thing.
Yeah, and then my coach was like, you didn't listen to anything I said in there.
And I was like, it was my first fight coach.
I'm so sorry.
But I was on muscle memory.
Like everything I was doing was muscle memory.
So he would tell me to do something.
I'd be like, oh, okay, go do this.
Go to the body more or something.
And I'm like, okay.
And then one two, one two, two, two, two, two.
Was the actual fight the first time that you fought without headgear?
Yeah.
I never fought without headgear ever before.
Then how did you?
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah, that's very important.
You never sparred without headge.
It was actually easier because headgear makes your head bigger and like you're easier to touch it's easier to move and I was like once I and then I've never done that so when like you throw something I'm like oh oh oh whoa because usually if your head gear gets clipped then you get clipped because it brings you with it but and like and my peripherals oh my god I can see everything on the side like if you start fighting him like this not even looking at it yeah just like ding ding ding ding ding like kneeling it you know who you should be you know it should be your cosplay for this next fight like you're
Just come out with the bandana and everything.
Ryu.
I know they say Ryu, but it's really Ryu.
It's talking about Street Fighter.
Yeah.
Street Fighter is one of the best video games of all time.
That would be far.
You come out with a red bandana, the cutoff white.
Ooh.
Just come out taunting him, yeah.
Well, this time I came out, my, my outfit was supposed to be.
Oh, no, if you came in like some assless chaps, you get them hyped up.
Hey.
Get them distracted.
He'd be like, wait, what the fuck?
Yeah.
This threw a stow me off.
I'll just have like, Ashless chaps, and then red arrows pointing to the
Yeah, be like, the sweet spot.
Yeah.
I'm like, if you hit me right here, I might knock out.
Oh my God.
God, I want to see this fight so bad, dude.
All right, so I just took a piss, but we're going to do some audience questions.
And by the way, if you guys want to ask questions for every podcast, we answer them at the end of the podcast,
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Get your questions answered by myself or the guest.
It's up to you.
Go ahead.
What do you got for us?
Okay, so this person says, would you rather all social media be permanently deleted and banned
off the internet or lose all your current close friends from your life what the fuck kind of weird
ass fucking um whoa that's a weird question i think i would do the social media like just wait
it just gets rid of social media for everybody or for you you for you specifically oh like you
wouldn't be able to make your content you would have no type of social media or internet like
it's banned for you.
Let's just say you got banned for life or lose close people that are in your life.
Damn.
That's a crazy question.
That's either your livelihood or your friendships.
Yeah.
Fuck, man.
That's a tough one.
But since I have no friends, I'm going to go with social media.
I'm going to keep that.
Yeah.
I'm a, I don't know.
But my friends only like me because I have money and I'm successful.
So if I don't have that, then I won't have friends anyways.
So I guess I'll keep those videos.
Wow.
Are you going to answer?
You're going to answer that?
He's that one.
Yeah, that's a tough one.
I mean, it's a really tough position because it's like, what else do I have to do?
Why?
You seem hurt.
You got to throw out your life.
No, you guys.
No, hold on.
You answer that question then, bitch.
Um, well, the only devil's advocate is he made a good point when the wife thing,
the wife and the kid, because you can always get more friends.
But if social media is gone forever, but I hate social media anyway, so I'd get rid of social
media. I'd be a motivational speaker.
So I think he's hurt because you guys pick social media and he's like, yo, I'm your close
friend.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
It's all good, dude.
Good thing.
It's not real.
It's just a hypothetical.
You'll find some more friends, bud.
Yeah, I'm sure better ones too.
Fuck you.
All right.
Give us the next question.
It says, hey, I wanted to ask what advice you have for mental space after a breakup.
Five years got cheated on with my best friend.
with life in general and the gym.
I work out consistently six days a week,
but never feel enough mentally.
Also, Brad and me, same birthday.
I'm just 10 years younger.
Exactly.
Thank you so much.
So he's talking about how to create mental space?
That's his question?
Yes, after a breakup.
Like in regards to space from the girl, I'm assuming?
Or just becoming healthier?
Yeah, just as what's your advice.
Okay.
Um, well, number one, I would make sure that like you're trying to either, either you have something you're really passionate about already or you're trying to find something you're super passionate about because I think the hardest thing after breakups is you, like people tend to put a lot of their like, you know, effort or like energy towards a relationship that when it's gone, it's like you have this feeling of loss because you have nowhere to put it. But if you can put it into something that's beneficial like box.
scene or something that you enjoy doing like working out or you know I don't know trying to build a
business or anything in those outside of like trying to pour your energy into a relationship
that you'll be much better off and you won't be like oh what about this and what about that
and the thoughts of loss because that's the biggest thing that happens out of the relationship is like
that heart loss the having to deal with love loss and being like fuck like how does it relate to
you so the more you can kind of like get yourself out of that at the same time without I'd say
completely avoiding that because it is important.
to feel that as well.
So it depends how long the guy's been away from the girl.
Like you do need to give yourself time to mourn in a sense the loss of this person in your
life the way that they were before and recognize that, who knows, maybe in a few years
they can be in your life in a different way in a more friendly manner.
But you do need to take time originally to like feel the pain, feel the hurt, move through
that and then start to focus on like, okay, what really makes you happy?
Because that should be, I think, your focus no matter what, even if you're in a great
relationship I think a lot of people tend to put all their effort and energy towards the person
and then what makes relationships losing so hard is like all your energy and effort is towards
them and not towards something that is like like I said earlier like you're actually really
passionate about for yourself and for yourself only so it was a balance of it but if you can find
that right balance you'll you'll be good yeah I think time is the main thing it's just time
because I did the focus on something else tactic focused on boxing completely and after
boxing was done you're like fuck i did feel all the pain and all i started mourning again but
i'm sure it's not as strong as it would have been if i like i would have mourned a lot harder
if i just right after the breakup but since i had something to distract me for months
now it's not as bad but i during the my camp i was trying to figure out how to speed up this
heart like broken heart recovery so i was like watching videos and stuff and i found this one
video and i said after a breakup a lot of times heartbreak isn't because of
of the person it's because of what could have been and that's what got me the most i was like oh
because then i started thinking in my last relationship i was like what could have been meaning
and to me that meant i'm never going to meet our kids and i was like oh that killed me i was like
our kids are never going to exist i'm never going to get to meet them or raise them and i was like
it's just the things that could have been so like you think oh i could have been married like this time next
year I could have been at this point in my life but now I'm not so it's less about the person and
more of the things you don't get to do now yeah yeah but you have to remember that you do get to do
those things it's just a little bit more down the road yeah yeah it's not those those things aren't
gone but it's it's it's tough to see that when you're yeah I mean and to the guy asking the
question he said he was 10 years younger than me so he's like you're 23 years like 32 yeah yeah no
10 years younger than me no no oh I'm 30 you're now 42 no no no oh okay okay okay okay
contrary to popular belief no and but that means like you're like 23 24 like you got time bro
yeah yeah yeah yeah and like you said that's the thing is is it's not always when we want it to
be it's sometimes you know when we when we at least expect it or when we don't even see a coming
that it happens yeah i think that's important to like relax into that and know that like
even if even if you're 33 even if you're 43 like you can't be like it has to be this way with
anything yeah otherwise like it's likely just not going to be that way i mean it's just
that's not how life works when you try to force something normally it like it finds it's it's
it's way away yeah more you force something yeah so i thought by this age i'd be married and
have at least one kid by now me too yeah especially me but i also kind of knew not me because i was
such a fucking psychopath when it comes to work so that is what it is i think i'm gonna get married
before both you all it's fun race challenge accepted you think it's a curly hair girl oh yeah word oh that's
dope at 32 nine getting into a relationship if I see an end to it you know what I mean
like if I'm with you it's because I can actually see yeah you said see the kids see
when did that start I'm curious because I I think about that a lot like when did I start dating
I was like okay this is good this is long term after I got sober so for you like recently
yeah yeah because for me it was like I don't know I think it was like maybe 28 where I was like
oh shit I really want to like if I'm dating someone I want to take it serious because prior
of that I was like just trying to get pussy
I'll be honest you know like I'm not even a lie
but yeah
what about you when did that change for you
what when you were like
I'm gonna like the next
like these relationships getting serious for me
I feel like I'm gonna know
when
she's the one
when I'm ready to give up my virginity
shut the fuck up dude this
go to hell
go to hell my virginity I'm like wow
yo go to hell you fucking
Give away your virginity
Here you go
You're not fucking
You're not
Take my flower
No dude
We're gonna
We're gonna unfamily friendly friendly
You dude
You're not family friendly anymore
All right
All right cool
Fuck that shit
Okay give us another one
All right so this person says
How did you manage your businesses
Or your content
And stuff like that
What would you have told
Your younger self
When you just started
Stretch
Easy
Besides stretching
Work harder
work way harder.
Yeah.
I've said this many times like looking back, I, I just didn't do enough.
I could have done more.
I did a lot, but like looking back, I'm like, I could have done so much more.
Yeah.
And I like fucked off in so many different ways, like whether it be like playing video games with no purpose to or just to fucking play video, which is fun.
Like, and if you have time to do that and it's like meditative or relaxing to you or it's like a part time thing.
But I just did too much bullshit where it's like I could have just not done that.
I could have focused on trying to learn how to do the things that I wanted to do in the future or try to be better at them, even if I didn't.
know exactly what I wanted to do yeah I just could have spent more time learning like reading
more books and just working fucking harder yeah and I got a lot done but what do you mean
stretch earlier I was talking about like stretching and just in general and working out like how much
stretching has like changed like fucking my body oh really yeah and I just skipped out on it because
it was like I said earlier the older guys always like stretch and I was like shut the fuck up old man
like I don't need that shit because I was just trained and as I got older I'm like wait they
were on some shit I wish someone told me that when I was younger to stretch more
So stretch more and work fucking harder.
That's honestly what I would have told myself.
Yeah.
I wish I got wise about money earlier on.
Like I was never the type to spend money or like get a Lamborghini or do anything extravagant.
But I could have like invested more or saved more or done this more instead of worrying about like getting the coolest shoes or whatever.
Yeah.
Like that was all dumb.
And like in the moment it didn't seem dumb because I'm young and I want like girls to like me or like guys to think I'm cool.
yeah but that's something I would have changed to made it less about material shit yeah and more
about what I want to be at this point in my life yeah yeah I wish I thought more five years ahead
more about about like financial status just life like okay where do I want to be in five years
let's work towards that instead I was living in the present yeah and yeah which is though
important though that's important to yeah it's just about like you know you have to have somewhat
you know of a foresight but what about you I don't want to answer this because I think I
done the worst out of everybody like in terms of you should answer so I would do everything
fundamentally different like I love it like like because we can't me me and Alex were there right
before Logan and Jake came onto the scene like Logan and Jake were texting us for advice on how to
not Jake Logan about how to do YouTube we're neighbors but so what I see it as Logan just did
everything right whereas I did everything wrong and lost everything so I would everything would
have to be fundamentally different so it would be too long of an answer like everything
Yeah.
I didn't treat it like a business.
I treated it too much like just my heart of my sleeve and just like everything
through feelings and emotions rather than this is a business.
Let me structure it like a business.
Let me form a team like a business.
Like even to this day,
I still don't know how much to pay out people to work for me.
And that's why I can't grow and be as effective as I can because I'm at a loss because I don't know.
Yeah.
Sometimes you ask me questions about that.
I'm still bad at it.
I just,
I recently made a very, very, very horrible financial decision business wise.
Yeah.
I mean, it happens.
dude like no matter what it's going to happen even when you're trying to make the best
decisions you can still make fuck decisions yeah it's like that's a part of the game it's a part
of life but I mean recognizing that is important straight up I mean being honest with yourself
in it is important because that's the thing about all this the more we can be honest with where
we're at our life like when we're at that point the more we could actually make real
progress in our life and that's I think the hardest thing for people like if you were able to
make that realization five years ago you'd be ahead right in the person listening
at the moment they're able to be like hey wait
this is who I really am.
This is where I'm really at.
These are where my values really lie.
Is this a line aligning with like what you said where I want to be in five years?
And if not,
you have to make real changes.
And that's scary because like it is easier to be like,
I'm just here in the moment.
I'm doing these things than being like,
where's my future?
Because I remember that question that you say,
what do you want to do in 10 years?
What do you want to do?
I was like,
I have no fucking idea.
Yeah.
And even to be fair,
when I was younger in my early 20s,
I didn't know.
And even today I don't have this like exact plan,
but I have a much clearer plan now.
Yeah.
And it's just about.
taking the time to sit down and really think about that instead of just day after day just moving forward in your life yeah my 20s were pretty much just winging it I was just winging it in my 20s I feel like nobody knows what they're doing in the 20s but they act like they do and that's the key yeah I mean it to make it yeah I mean I was never bad with spending the money because I just never really cared about shit yeah I never cared about shoes and shit yeah I never cared about cars ever like I like I like I like them but I just don't give a fuck I think at one point I mean I had a few dumb cars like my g wagon mm-hmm but I never
spent money crazy like that.
Me either.
I just put money into my shit.
I did.
I know you did.
July 15th.
Nobody will forget.
July 15th, baby.
There's cars.
There's things.
There's everything.
Yeah, you were all about all that stuff.
Yeah.
You were like, I just find it crazy how like you were literally like the number one
YouTuber.
You were getting like two million views.
I'm sorry.
Every day.
And then you randomly decided to shut off there.
I have to say it.
though that was so random
two million views a day
next question
it's like
at the time when you're in a situation
though you never realize
how good it is
until after that situation
and you look back
you're at a worse spot
and then you look back
and you're like what the fuck
that's crazy
next question from the lovely audience
last one last one
dude I love it
so this one says
what would you guys say
is the most stressful part
in whether it's running
a business your career
creating content whatever it is what is the most stressful part of it oh i i know i'll just start
this off for you guys for example for our industry um i create from the heart i like to create
content i care about but what sucks is the fact that it's not about how people perceive that
it's about how the algorithm picks that up so no matter how good my content is no matter how
authentic I am in my content, no matter what. If the algorithm, if it doesn't, if I don't post
how many times I need to on Instagram for it to pick up on the algorithm or anything, I'm
fucked. I don't like how there's a machine. There's a mechanism behind the art. If it was just,
here's my art. However many followers I have, they all see it and they get to choose whether
they like it. That's one thing. That's how it was back in a day. Yes. But now that it's like,
but now the algorithm. So like recently I posted, I got five million on Instagram. And I was like,
oh thank you and then one person said he buys followers he uh his uh look how low his engagement is
and i'm sitting here like do you know how much shit i've done do you know how many youtube
you have you know how much i'm seen like there are people on instagram who can have 10 times
the amount of instagram likes that i have they go out in public in the middle of time square
not a fucking soul will know who they are i go out in time square with like you guys it's game
over it's like everybody's going to know and there's a difference for that so i hate that
the algorithm affects us and I hear how our worth is also determined by others based on how many
likes our engagement we have. Yeah. That's my thing. I mean, I can relate to that. That's,
that's, that's fucking spot on. I mean, that's the thing that sucks so much about social media.
The last, I would say, five years has changed drastically as far as the amount of content you need
in order to be seen on the platform or to grow on the platform like Instagram, specifically,
or YouTube. They've just made it so much more like you need to input this many pieces of content
in order to actually get a certain amount of engagement,
which is crazy.
Because I remember back in the day,
like I would post like twice a day on Instagram
and I post like fucking once a month maybe,
but it's like and my engagement gets fucked
because I know that I'm not hitting that quota.
But like back in the day, I was posting,
but again, it's like, dude, I have 10 years on Instagram,
almost 11 years.
Shit might even be more.
And it's like, dude, it's like how many times
you post the same shit?
How many times can I.
I've done this pose hundreds of times.
I've done everything though.
Like, I've done every fucking type of lift with the girls.
I mean, it's like I could keep redoing them.
Yeah.
But it's at some point, it's like, fuck, man.
People are going to be like, I mean, maybe I'm just going to be like,
fuck, I've done this a thousand times.
I feel like you've done this stuff, but I still think you keep it fresh.
I try.
There's a shit that pops up on my feet of you.
I'm like, holy shit all the time.
I'm trying.
I'm trying to stuff.
Anytime I bring you up, whoever I'm with is like, oh, that's the guy that picks up girls.
And I'm like, yeah, that's him.
Yeah, I mean, I've done it.
I've done it.
For sure.
But you're right.
There is still like, regardless of what's out there, I know I still have this like, you know,
you always have this like underlying fear or like scare or feeling of like, fuck, I have,
I know that they want this much from me, but I can't, like the platform itself, not the people,
but I can't always do it because it's just so much shit now.
And then trying to balance everything else, like personal life, business stuff.
It's definitely challenging.
Are we even answering the question?
What was the question?
They're asking like, what is the most stressful part, whether it's owning a business,
creating content.
It's creating content on this side of it.
I was still relating to our business.
What's your?
I would say,
keeping up with the kids these days,
like the 20-year-old TikTok,
it's just pumping out like 10 TikToks a day.
And like TikTok's messed us up
because it makes YouTube.
Now YouTube has to go to short term,
short form and it has to be even more.
And then same with Instagram.
Like TikTok changed everything to make it.
It was already short form.
Now it's like super short form.
Like the 10 seconds.
But I feel like whoever is asking this question,
they would expect me to say the hate because I do get a lot of hate but I mean no
from KSI from the UK so I get a lot of hate on that side and the weird thing is like
whenever I get hate or somebody just says like the meanest thing they could think of the first
response initial in my head is how do I make this guy happy I'm like okay how can I make
this guy happier what can I do to change like to get him out of this because he's just in a mean
like hateful mood he probably is something's going on with his life how can I
change this. And that's like always my initial response. So I really don't take hate the way people think that we take hate. I know a lot of people do like you don't like when you get hate sometimes you're like everybody hates me from one tweet and I'm like yo it's one guy. I wouldn't have different level of his career. Yeah. Yeah. One thing about what Alex said about short term content. Your brother was actually telling me there's this there's one of the most popular kids shows on TV now and they studied it every six seconds I think or even less it shifts to a different.
scene because their attention spans are so fast so the kids are watching every it's a drug every
three six seconds it changes changes changes changes so they're getting conditioned to that so it's only
gonna get it's rough so you can't sit there anymore and talk to the vlog hey guys today aunt
but that's why honestly I like this format like people who watch this they're coming for this
yeah I want to see this they want to hear this because like I love that and I love making content
for that that genre but like you can only do so much so many times
And then now it's like, I just enjoy this
because someone's going to come here like, oh, I want this
longer form content.
Yeah.
Straight up.
And I mean, that's where people get true value is like listening to someone
going through their problems, right?
So they can relate and be like, wait a sec,
this reminds me of these things in my life.
Yeah.
And then go through their own problems.
Like there's actual value there versus like,
look at the bitch on TikTok where their titty's out doing like some dance.
It's, I mean, straight up.
Like, it's insane shit.
What?
No.
Oh, the way that I swear and stuff?
Yeah.
You don't like that?
No, I'm fine with it.
I don't go to the fuck.
So I have a question to add to that.
I don't give a fuck.
Well,
the question I want to add to that,
because you guys are talking about being fathers
and you guys are talking about getting married and whatnot,
how do you guys feel about like your child having social media at a young age,
whether they're in middle school.
Are we talking about the Kanye?
I'm like,
Connie just posted a thing right now.
Oh,
I don't know about that,
but I'm just saying in general,
like how do you feel about social media for,
like young children?
They ain't touching it.
I'm not getting anywhere near it.
It's like,
here's my problem with it.
It doesn't matter.
Like,
if you are like,
hey,
you're not on social media and you don't let your kids have social media
they're going to go to school and they're going to see the same shit anyways because
the kids next to them is like they're living on their phone what it very much does
matter no but what I'm saying is if you if I try to police it as a father and they go to
school they're going to be sitting right next to some kid on the same exact shit yeah
and they're going to be seeing the same thing you don't want them to see you now then
posting their content on there maybe you can be like hey you're not going to make an account
post it you can kind of police it but I don't know it's like the I don't know I think
the problem with it is like it's so deeply ingrained now it's going to be continually more ingrained
in our society that's like you kind of can't avoid it at some point i mean you could try to protect
them for as long as you want but at some point like you know it's like when a kid is shit when i was
16 i was i supposed to drink alcohol 16 no but i fucking did it right who else drank did you drink
underage did you drink underage okay like all of my parents all of our parents did the same exact
shit i'm not saying it's right or wrong i'm just saying it's a reality so yeah if we're like
hey this is happening how are we going to police a fucking telephone for that long i don't think
you can i think the best you can do is try to try to make it make them let them know that it's
not the most important thing yeah because like they can fall into that we're like oh i have to post
a day oh i have to do this i have to do this so people see it it's like oh like dinner time
nobody gets phones like if we're if anything family related nobody's on their phones like stuff
like that but you can't get them away from their phone they're just going to hate you
i'm the opposite of this they can resent me all they want my i already know because i i i
I know as an adult what I feel about my phone.
Like, remember I went on that whole rant about, like,
the last podcast, I don't go on social media anymore.
I don't do this.
Yeah.
It's such a drug that I've been back on it, like much more now actively without even
noticing it.
Just like my phone just more and more kept going in my hand.
My kids, it's going to be a hard stop, hard no, not knowing.
We can't dictate where it's going to be in the future.
They don't even get a phone until what age.
Well, is it really necessary for a child of like within elementary school to maybe
partially middle school to have.
have a phone like is it really necessary realistically i mean it's a direct line to your kid if your child
is six years old all the way up to 10 years old like do you think it's necessary for them to
have a cell phone no no no but it it would be nice to have a direct line to the kid yeah no 100
like i don't get me wrong like when i grew up i had a phone specifically just for emergencies
yeah also like low key the kid my post and fire ass memes yep you know i got to see the
Yeah, got to
I'd get them a burner or something then
Yeah, yeah, a little flip phone
My kid might be super creative
You know, it might be like, look at this shit
It's gonna be 2030 and like everybody has like
phones implanting in their hands
And my kid has a flip phone
Yeah, yeah
Fucking razor
They said by 2030
Apple is gonna have this contact
That replaces the iPhone
So everything that you do is gonna be through a contact
Fuck that, I don't know
Yeah, I don't trust, no
I don't want an iPhone in my eye
We say no now
But when it comes out
We know we all going to have it.
And they change it to E-Y-E-phone.
And imagine you look at somebody and it shows.
It's an actual iPhone now.
Yo.
Yo, you just fuck me up with that.
That was sick.
That would be crazy.
That's the next level.
Fuck, dude.
And you look at somebody and it shows how many followers they have.
And then they can just read your mind and then we're all fucked.
Because they're already getting like when we talk, the ads pop up already.
Now they're just going to be reading your mind.
And they're going to be like, wow.
They're going to be like, Alex really is.
an insidious genius he's not a nice guy we got him
all right is that it
unless you want another question you have another good one
because those are good ones
this one is just like fuck it just run it
okay this one says what's a worst feeling
being blocked or being ignored there's a whole story
they gave us but I didn't read it right now oh
wait read this story okay
so it says yo what's up Brad huge fan of you in the pod
I have a question that me and the boys
just can't agree on for
I was talking to this girl who I met through a friend was super into her but I found out that she was basically a hoe and I had been lying it had been lying to me the whole time we were talking and which was around a month or two we never got together but she said a lot of things that you don't say to someone you're just fucking she made it seem like she was very into me when I found out I wasn't hurt I just wanted to make her feel shitty about it my friends told me to block her but instead I put my
read receipts on made sure she knew i was reading all her poems and paragraphs she sent me
and didn't answer a single one of her 50 to 60 calls to me within a few days i ignored her
this is getting good i don't know why you wouldn't want to read this in the first place go go go get
great it's because i was like i don't know if they're trying to leave no this is dope so it says um
every single one of her calls 50 to 60 calls um to me within the few days i ignored her to the point
where she came to my house at one or 2 a.m.
and wrote something on my car window and some psycho shit.
I made her feel like shit slash go nuts mission accomplished.
Back to my question.
What's the worst feeling?
Being blocked or being ignored?
Yo, this guy, this guy's an evil genius.
Yeah, he's an evil genius.
Holy shit.
I'm not there.
Holy fuck.
In that circumstance, what he did was right.
I don't know about the red receipts.
Yeah, if it's already off, you can't turn it on.
Like letting her see that.
And in that, like, if he had just blocked her,
she would have gotten over him within three days
because she would have had no contact
probably would have showed up to his house once
so for what he wanted to accomplish
he did it right in that sense
I thought he was asking what hurts me more
that guy's a mastermind dude
yeah that's kind of the question
like what is going to hurt more
I think ultimately right
like if you were in that situation
because I think he's trying to up his game
he's really trying to hurt girls
this guy's a fucking evil genius
that was crazy man
holy shit
I think they both suck
I don't know
maybe you shouldn't answer that one
yeah that's a bad
I don't know if I don't know
want to give that I don't want to give that answer um that's a fuck yeah we like would you be more hurt
if someone blocked you or would you be more hurt if someone like was intentionally ignoring you
like if alex for example brad if alex was calling you and you blocked him and it just it just
shows that you know you're it went straight to voice man he's like oh that's strange whatever
but it would be different if he was texting you like crazy and then he he sees that you read it
and you don't respond i think being blocked because like being blocked you're like why the
fuck did that happen like you're like why did you block me yeah
And then you might see him be like, yo, what's, what the fuck?
You know, it's a girl.
I was like, what's going on?
Both of them would suck.
Like, being ignored or blocked.
Block is a form of being ignored.
Like, they both suck.
Nobody blocked me, please.
They're both the same thing.
I'm sensitive.
It's the same shit.
But that guy's a low key, a psychopath.
Yeah.
That was kind of crazy.
He said she was.
Well, bro, I'm like how, she really, well, she said she was a hoe, but like, it sounds
like she was really trying to figure this out.
Like what?
But like, she, like, she, like, called him 50 to 60 times, wrote secret notes on his car.
That's kind of crazy
Like what did she do to you that like I don't know
I had questions for this guy
Clearly he's not here
Do you want me to respond to the email
So you can give more detail
We'll get on the next pod
We'll talk about it
We'll get this guy on here
Because I'm like dude
I really want to know
But that's it
Let me learn from you,
Sense
Yeah how old was he
His 20s?
God he's a fucking devious
Anyways
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