RAWTALK - BIG HIT & Lefty Expose the Prison System & Talk Crazy Prison Stories

Episode Date: July 16, 2024

On this weeks episode of RAW TALK, BIG HIT opens up about his life outside of prison, his music career origins, & the regrets & lessons learned from his past. Lefty chimes in on the authentici...ty of rappers, the allure of the gang lifestyle, and the future of gang mentality.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I haven't put my lips on that. Nah, I don't drink that shit. Nah, I got the water right here. I don't drink water. I try to stay away from here. That's how fucking the bitch or something. I hate it. What, the energy gene?
Starting point is 00:00:11 You get the rhinos, man. Wait, wait, you drink that to fuck a chick? Hell yeah. That's, God damn it, why are we not filming this? This is so funny, bro. It's filming? Oh, my God. That is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:00:23 You're what I get. You're what I get. I'm trying to understand. This is what I use, Luke. Ready, Martin, Martin? That's what's that? It's a rhino, man. Are you a little rhino?
Starting point is 00:00:33 I'm sponsored a right. Why don't you just use like a real dick pill like Cialis or? Because they haven't sponsored me yet. Okay, fair, fair, fair. Sometimes a rhino makes you sick. You get the wrong pill, it makes you sick. Look what I got in my pocket right here. Yeah, let's see.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Oh, you still got the chain. Look, I love that. My house key on there. Damn, that's what's up, bro. Appreciate it. It turned gray on me, though, man. Well, that's not real. That was just like a sample, so.
Starting point is 00:00:59 It was a gift, though. It was a gift, yeah. So how you've been? How are you been? Hanging out, man. Been working a lot with a big hit, hit boy. Yeah, how did you guys get linked up? I pulled up on him, man.
Starting point is 00:01:12 I pulled up to his son produced the music video. I pulled up and just, I've seen him hit it off. Some reason he captured my son's attention, man. He's fucking with him real tough. Yeah, yeah. He's for this fool right here. Why do you think that is? Probably because he, a lot of shit I used to be telling him he see it in this,
Starting point is 00:01:34 nigga. Like, it's just like a confirmation of everything I've been already just telling him shit. Oh, what I'm saying? A gang a wild-ass story. Like you're talking about as far as the talent? In what gang being? Like jail shit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:01:47 He got, you know, some characteristics and shit, same, you know. Shane area. Niggas just don't live that same lifestyle. Yeah. You know, in the politics and all kind of, you know, intricacies. So I'm curious about that right away Because right away I brought you a blue hat You're like not wearing a blue hat
Starting point is 00:02:03 You want the red hat It wasn't like that But I'm saying like how does that work here though I mean I fuck with everybody Bloods, Crips, essays You know what I'm saying Yeah
Starting point is 00:02:14 You know a lot of my partners is essays You know what I'm saying We do a lot of business and shit But it doesn't matter if they're It don't matter You know what I'm saying Serenio or Pisa Or North Ate
Starting point is 00:02:26 You know what I'm saying Or blood or blood or Crip, you know, we're all men first, you know what I'm saying? You know, you got your disrespectful motherfuckers that, you know, something usually they get D.P. by their own people, you know what I'm saying? They get out of line and shit. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:43 D.P. Discipline, yeah. So I'm curious. You, you had been in and out of prison for 30 years. Might as well say, yeah. Yeah. And the most time you spent was 15. Straight.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Straight. Yeah. Yeah. I talked to Lefty about this a little bit, but coming back into, like, just normal life, how difficult has that been for you? I mean, I wouldn't say it's difficult. It's just like a fucking vacation, like, damn.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Crazy. I don't know, like, damn, you know. I want to do so much before I go back or some shit like that, like, because I know it's just a trick bag. But my way of thinking, like, fuck, I got to, you know, but just my lifestyle had to switch up instead of chasing the bag. That's the hardest part for me, like not going back to the bricks
Starting point is 00:03:37 and the bag, the hustle, you know what I'm saying? Because I know how to get it and get to it. I just fucking. And I was finding out there's different shit to focus on, like the music. I mean, just do music, y'all. Yeah. I can do everything. Y'all, we're doing movies now and shit.
Starting point is 00:03:52 You know. Because we talked about it before last time, me and Lefty, and when he caught out, and there was the point. where you could have ended up going back but you chose the music route because of other sort of like where you were at in your life and what you wanted
Starting point is 00:04:05 and what you thought like before you got in did you ever see the music thing was that always something in your on your path? Was that always something that you were going towards or was it that's not even in your mind?
Starting point is 00:04:17 Nah, I just, I love music shit you know? I didn't really tap into that shit so I was isolated in the shoe you know what I'm saying that's the only reason talking about even though the yard I wasn't doing no rapping niggas didn't know I rap I only did that in the whole you
Starting point is 00:04:33 all said yeah past time I'm writing kept kept you know kept my mind busy and shit so prior to being in in prison though you were never like musically inclined you weren't uh no I mean I used to fuck around with it you know pop lot breakdancing and all that old shit but I just be listening to a gang of music a variety of shit yeah you know what I'm saying but in far as me just making music now I wasn't trying to be in no group or none of that shit What changed though Why was it like when you came out
Starting point is 00:05:01 Obviously your son Massively successful in it was that way I mean like I say My last four Like four and a half years You know I was isolated I did like nine years in the shoe
Starting point is 00:05:12 But the last four and a half I got out for like a couple months I went right back You know But nine years of the shoe The shoe is what Specifically for people The social housing unit
Starting point is 00:05:21 You know just locked down Wors in the hole 23 hours You know what I'm saying a day you get a year a year I mean a hour an hour out
Starting point is 00:05:31 you know what I'm saying for nine years I mean sometimes I don't even get that shit because I don't fucked up so much even in the shoe I was getting losing my privileges and shit
Starting point is 00:05:40 like just because fighting or fighting cussing throwing shit on police you know what I'm saying like just doing like just frustrated fighting like shit like that gets you in the hole
Starting point is 00:05:49 when you're so bad and you commit crimes in the hole too or so that's when they're saying you to the shoe age worse than that. They don't want you to turn it at all. Yeah, I would stay.
Starting point is 00:05:58 It was a never-ending. I couldn't get out. It was like a fucking spinning cycle. Like, you know, digging a deeper hole and shit. You know what I'm saying? They're filing grievances on them and shit. They really didn't like that.
Starting point is 00:06:10 So it's like, you fuck this nigga. So because you were saying like, you know, like I shouldn't be in here kind of shit? Or like, because at some point, is it just like the guards who got a personal vendetta against you? I mean, they just got down
Starting point is 00:06:23 that side of the fence. They got, of course, they got a grud, you know, chip on their shoulder and shit. Some of them is cool, try to be cool with you out there and banged on them so hard. Like, fuck you. They try to bring you extra little shit, you know, and bring, you know, give you what you want. There's so much you can get anyway, shit. I wasn't trying to get weed and phones in that motherfucker. How did that even work?
Starting point is 00:06:45 Hey, right. Niggas, oh, familiarity. He, right me up. This motherfucker just asked me for a phone. Lieutenant come to the man. he just asked my officer for a phone. Like, yeah, hell yeah, knicker. My God.
Starting point is 00:06:58 But how does stuff normally get in there? It's from the guards. Yeah, hell, yeah. It's not from, like, someone coming and visiting. Nah, fuck, no. Can't get no. So the guards, it's crazy. It seems like the prison system is just this, like, massive racket
Starting point is 00:07:09 where people are just, yeah. The guards to the prison itself, being privately owned and funded by the fucking government. That's crazy. Yeah, I mean, all of them ain't shit. That motherfuckers is human like us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:21 They want money, too. Yeah. They break the law, coming to work high and drunk shit. Want to talk shit? They get all that slang from us. You know what I'm saying? Come in that motherfucking talking like us, shit. The guards.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Hell yeah. And quirky food, they're all blast shit up on the neck. Quirkin or blash it up, helmets, all that. Tatted. Tatted, the whole head, everything. So, but at what point are you making me, like, where's your inspiration if you're, like, locked down? I mean, just.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Because it sounds like you got out and just, like, went off. on music. Yeah, just a lot of shit on my chest, a lot of music, just backlogged, you know, just backed up from years of being isolated. So, you know, that became, I didn't need no beat.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I just, a cappella him. I beats in my head. One reason why I'm going to big head is I can relate to him is because I believe him when he's rapping. A lot of these rappers, they talk and they're rapping. I don't believe him. I think most of them.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Yeah, I'd be like, he's not doing that. So I don't believe it, but when I believe he, the person, it hits different, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like, okay, I believe him. Yeah, I feel like for the longest time, rap has, I don't know, I don't know how many rappers
Starting point is 00:08:33 are actually really real. Probably, you know. Because a lot, I mean, like, I feel like there was an era before, the more current era that was maybe a little more real, like Biggie Tupac era, but I don't even know I wasn't even, I wasn't old enough to really understand then. One of those things I figured out, the key to it was stay out of jail. That's it. I just had to stay out of jail.
Starting point is 00:08:52 and now shit's been falling in place for me and probably I would say man maybe two, three percent four percent, five percent of the rappers are like that you know what I'm saying? That's with my opinion I'm saying like a lot of them I met like they're cool they're the homies but
Starting point is 00:09:07 they ain't on the four yards they ain't broke like that, poor like that shooting like that respect it in their hood like that their homies respect them like that it's interesting though how like it seems like the rap game in Diane Reed is, is tailored or is like, is suited towards that sort of lifestyle,
Starting point is 00:09:29 but not many of them really live that real lifestyle. And then there's people like you, you too, both of you guys, who actually, I mean, I don't really know too much about your past past, but I know you really did live that life, like you went to prison, you spent that time. I guess the question of that is, why do you think people are so enamored by gang mentality? when it's ultimately kind of a bad thing. I mean, I think you guys could both attest to that. Obviously, it's not the best thing in the world, right?
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah, I think it ain't really about, like, that's one side of it, the violence and, you know, the banging all that extra stuff shit. But I think it's more the love that niggas get, that they show each other to bond, you know what I'm saying, that you get, that you don't get from, you know what I'm saying, the extent that motherfuckers will go through for you, Like, niggas really will kill for a nigga, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:10:24 and give you their last, the shirt off their back. That's love like you don't even get from your brothers and shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? I see. Like, your bitches and whatever, they won't go through that extent. You know, that's probably the most... It keeps you going. Like, that's what I always say.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I always say some of the bondhood and brotherships that I have with some of my homies from my neighborhood or friendships that I made with people in there, it's priceless. You can't pay for that. It's like, it's like that, you know? But why do you think, why do you think, like, listeners, like, viewers, right? Why do you think they're so enamored by... Infatuated by that shit?
Starting point is 00:11:01 Infatuated by it. Because obviously, if those mainstream artists who are not really about it are singing about it, like, they're about it, or relating to other people who are about it and, like, making themselves close to it so that they look a certain way or appear a certain way to the audience, because they're willingly doing that in the music. Why do you think people are so enamored by it? Because it's stupid.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Yeah. I don't know, because they can relate to it. Maybe because they have, everybody has somebody that's incarcerated. Everybody has somebody that's been in that lifestyle, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know, because... It's different, it's different, man. It's the shit that they wouldn't do. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:11:37 A lot of motherfuckers want to do it, but they don't got the nuts to do it. You know what I'm saying? You motherfucker talk that shit. But when it's really time to, you know, get active, it's a whole different ballgame. You know, I said, I've seen the hardest niggas freezes. up in the right. You know what I'm saying? Like, the hardest motherfucker that you'll never think like, this niggas gonna go first. The hardest motherfucker check in or something, you know what I'm saying? Like, everybody, you know, you got somebody harder than you. I don't give a fuck how hard
Starting point is 00:12:06 you is. Yeah. There's somebody out there that's harder than you. You know what I'm saying? It's going to call your bluff and the test always going to come. You know what I'm saying? If you're living this lifestyle, you fin to get tried, nigga. I don't God in heaven. Yeah. So you think, do you think, though, the audience is because it's just because it's different and they're, like, interested in it. Yeah, it's, yeah. Be glamorized, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:30 The nosey, they want to see. I don't know. I don't know what the fuck. That's a good question. It's just interesting how it is glamorized. And, like, it's also interesting. Why are people so into it, yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:39 And, like, how mainstream artists, like, kind of rap like they're about it, but they're really not, right? Like, what's the point of that? Just to, just to seem like you have relationship to it. To look hard? I mean, they idolize that shit. You know what I'm saying? Everybody wants to be a gangster. Yeah, basically.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Is it a good thing, though? It happens. It's not a good thing. I'll say just product of my environment. It happens. That's just the way it is. It's a beautiful struggle for me. It happened, and I overcame that, and I'm telling my story.
Starting point is 00:13:09 You know what I'm saying? On my side, me. Yeah. Could be good in some instances. Some other instances could be bad. You know what I said? I said, when you first hit the yard, like, or whatever, even the county jail, you just, me personally, I just, I throw my mat down.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I don't even roll my mat up and lay down. I walk around that motherfucker and see who the fuck is in there, you know what I'm saying, and get it over with it. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to lay down and sleep. Niggas is just bull bopping me in the sleep. I was saying, you're not going to go to sleep off top. But at the same time, niggas just see that shit and like, oh, this nigga Willie with the business. And, you know, but as opposed to, you're going to lay it down,
Starting point is 00:13:54 you're trying to hide up in that motherfucker with your, like, avoid the shit, yeah. Muckuckers is trying you off top. Like, you ain't got to hit me up. I'm hitting niggas up. They just pick up on that cue. You know what I'm saying, yeah. What kept you, what kept you personally, like, so much in the cycle of, like,
Starting point is 00:14:10 coming back? Shit, chasing the bag, you know what I'm saying? But, like, in prison, how are you chasing a bag in prison? Oh, yeah, I mean, shit. I'm saying, like, getting stuck in prison. Like, how did you get stuck in prison? stuck back and forth. Yeah, just, yeah, chasing the bag, too.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Just shit, yeah. Oh, God, I'm going on visits, swallowing weed, dope. You know what I'm saying? If I lost my visits, I'm sending niggas out there to go get it, you know what I'm saying, and grinding because I don't lost all my privileges. I can't even fucking buy food, you know what I'm saying, from the, you know, regular, like regular people, I got to get my money through dope, you know what I'm saying, and flip the dope to get my food, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:46 But how are you actually doing that from prison? Happy Corp. shit without giving too much information same way cash apps you know what I'm saying so you have a phone
Starting point is 00:14:56 where there's a will is away because I've seen people film videos and shit in prison like how is that even happening man you got criminals you got some smart people in there got some really smart people in there
Starting point is 00:15:05 where there's the will there's away you were able to keep a phone nothing's impossible man yeah nothing impossible I don't pay 15 bands for a phone before yeah
Starting point is 00:15:13 15000 15000 I've seen people pay 8000 on COVID just because it was It was the only one left. Niggas was bid outbidding.
Starting point is 00:15:22 So they can just go on the internet and stuff, social media? Like, what are you doing on the phone? Man. Trying to make moves to, obviously. Yeah, absolutely. It don't make the money yourself back. When you buy a phone, it'll make yourself back. It'll make the money back.
Starting point is 00:15:33 You're tapping in with all the homies. Now you got a phone. I was addicted to her. Yeah. At one point I was, dude, so I understand that. I use X videos. You use X videos? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I had to stop. That's one of the worst addictions of all times. Shout us to Valentina. Jews. You're so dumb, bro. It's so funny. Till I wanted for video, Valerie K. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Lily Lou. Popper. Well, we were talking before you came or when you came and before we hopped on the pot, but working out, because I've always had this perspective of working out in prison because I think people see movies forever. It's like people in the yard bench and bench pressing and shit. It's not like that.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Hell no. There's no equipment. Hell no. I just pull up dips. And the track. Yep, track. Shit. So it's all.
Starting point is 00:16:19 body weight shit. Yeah. They got water bags in the shelf? Yeah, water bags and shit, book bags. Shit like water bags. Yeah, did the trash bag fill it up with water? Okay, don't hold me on your back. Weight resistance.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah. Yeah, I was going to say, that makes sense. But how was that? Because, like, you honestly look like, I mean, you said you're 52? Yeah. Which is another thing to talk about. But you stayed in shape throughout? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Because you're not just a skinny fuck. I'm going to work out every day in jail. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, till my body shut down. Damn, there's like no off days. Yeah. Well, also, before we got on, too,
Starting point is 00:16:54 you talked about just the politics of prison, and it really is that separated with, like, water fountains and what people are doing? Black's, what Mexico's water found over here, Black's water found over here. Even if you're not involved. Black shower, Mexican shower.
Starting point is 00:17:09 If you're not involved with none of the tables, is it true that, like, if you're in, you have to kind of be involved somehow. Yeah. If you go, you're going to go to the whites. I have to. Yeah. You can go with us.
Starting point is 00:17:21 The Sireneos or the whites, yeah, I think for sure. LA County, you probably wrote the Sreños and the whites. Yeah. Honestly, you never know. You never know. Yeah, it's different, man. It's real. You got to go with somebody.
Starting point is 00:17:33 You have to go with somebody. You're not going to sit there by yourself and take a table. Use the phone. Hell, no. You're going to go with somebody to use the phone. What if you just mind your own fucking business? Nah. You're not going to use the phone.
Starting point is 00:17:44 You're going to be walking around the track the whole time. They're going to be pressing you, digger. I'm talking. You go to the store, you're going to be kicking in all that shit. I was like, I just didn't hear. As soon as you walk in there, they all rush the door. Oh, the money's just. No, they're going to ask you for sure.
Starting point is 00:18:03 So they make you do that. You have to. It's just like a part of it. It's the way he's running. He's been run like that for years. If it ain't broken on fix it. That's the crazy thing because, like, that part of it, I don't know, could it ever be policed actually by, like, the guards?
Starting point is 00:18:18 Could it ever be actually stopped? You know what? I see that the California prison system is the only prison system that segregates race. So now the prison and the PC situation is getting so bad that Cali knows that they fucked up. They fucked up by doing it. That's why they're trying to flip all the yards again.
Starting point is 00:18:36 It's almost like it seems at some point as if like it was in their best interest for that to even be a thing because then there's this constant feud between people. I think it has pros and cons too. What would the pros be? If a black takes off on me or I take off on a black in the cell and it gets bad, it's going to be a riot on the yard.
Starting point is 00:18:54 No, but so what I'm saying is, I get that point. So you want to live with your race? But before that, like, before that is even a thing, like, it's, it almost seems like it's, because it's not being police there. I wonder how that shit started, yeah, but, but it's, meaning, like, it's, it's almost encouraged that it's a thing because it's not being stopped. And because it's a thing, it keeps people fighting each other. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:19:16 It keeps it more structures. You don't even think it's because of the prison system itself. It's just a thing that it's going to be. I mean, they're so used to the bullshit. They're shell-shocked. They're not going to even let that happen no more. When you come in the motherfucker, you got H for Hispanics. The sales, they got big over here in blacks.
Starting point is 00:19:40 They throw you right in there immediately. When you're going to chase you up, they throw you in the black team, they're in Hispanic teams, right away. I just find that stuff. interesting because it's the divide itself is the thing that also then just creates the conflict and just continuance of it honestly it's it's more helping right because no matter what like for instance boom we're in there right and say we don't get divided right so honestly like if i see you if i see you right and like you're not with anybody and you start a problem
Starting point is 00:20:12 and all the Hispanics like jumping on you it would be an issue right like lefty Can you reiterate that just because it's on Mike? He's just saying that it is what it is, man, on the set. Like, it is what it is. If you're not with it and you start doing some shit towards a black, your own people's going to fuck you up. You know what I'm saying? They would rather do something to you than everybody doing something, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:39 everybody going up. Because they've got to help you. If we start jumping on you, they got to help you. They got to help you. Same shit. You know what I'm saying? One of them, they start jumping on me. Black's got to help me.
Starting point is 00:20:50 It seems like it's unavoidable. You might not even like this nigga, but you got to help him. It's skin color because I've seen, I see, I see people go in there and they try to go, okay, I'm by myself. I don't want to, it don't work that way, dog. And then they walk to the blacks in the blacks who look at the, all right, far skin color. Hey, what's up with this for Jake at? We got to fuck his ass up and get rid of him. Like, dog, you got to get with the program, man.
Starting point is 00:21:11 That's a program. That's so fucking crazy. There's no way you're going to run. There's no way you're going to run and run your own card and make your own. own card. Yeah, you can't make your own card in county jail. Hell no, you're not going to go in this. I don't want nothing to do. I want to do my time and go home. I'm not running with nobody.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I'm going to just leave my mat in road. Fuck no. It's just crazy to me that it's, it's like the perfect environment for like the prison itself, because it's a private business to just continue to thrive because people end up fighting each other and then getting more penalties. Where were they making money off of Green, California City? Millionaires. Millioners were
Starting point is 00:21:41 investing in prisons. Millioners were investing in prison. But it's just like, it's like they get you in and then you just stay because you have to kind of pick sides and then there's this division and someone's going to be mad that day. Then they're mad at this guy. Then it's like you help him. Now you're in trouble and you just continue down this rabbit hole of like nonstop. Revolving cycle.
Starting point is 00:21:57 That's the craziest shit about prison to me. So congrats to forget both you guys for getting out and staying out. Active. Active. So I guess I mean really, because I like having these conversations. Active. I've asked him this last time, but like to people who are interested in being part of a gang life, like do you think it's the best choice?
Starting point is 00:22:16 Fuck, no. Hell no, don't do it. I mean, especially if you're soft. Don't really don't do it because they're going to put a battery on your back. You know what I'm saying? And make you do shit that they won't do. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah. I would say, uh, I told people like, if you're going to gangbank, go all out with it, though. Don't, don't have step because it's pointless. And, uh, you kind of got to be like a product of your environment, huh? Pretty much, yeah, product of my environment, growing up in the trailer. in the trailers and all that, yeah. It's just a, uh, poverty, poverty, poverty. Poverty, the best way to live in poverty.
Starting point is 00:22:56 You ain't going to get money right there in the house with your mom and being broke as close. You won't get it with the homie, slaying it on the blog, hitting legs. So it's just... So is there a way, do you think? Because, like, there's obviously a lot of kids that grow up in and around these, in these situations that, like, that might be their best bet. Like, join this and make some money because maybe you don't see any other way.
Starting point is 00:23:16 What's the other way, though? Do you square? Don't be a good kid. Don't bite. Yeah, be a good kid. Don't bite into the bullshit. Yeah. I'm sad, I mean, but you'll never know.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Like, a gang of my friends, childhood friends, they were just, we, I knew them anyway, you know what I'm saying? And they were, they was blood, shit. Yeah. Like I said, the first shit I did, I didn't know I was going on the mission. I was going on missions before I even knew I was going on the mission. Just in the back. Niggas, yeah. Oh, my homie, smokes a weed, who I'm in the car.
Starting point is 00:23:50 These niggas is hitting cones, it's busting on niggas. You know what I'm saying? It's like, damn, I'm looking like, I start shooting too. You know what I'm saying? What the fuck? Niggas is shooting at each other. And then that's how it happened. The next thing you know, niggas is shooting at me,
Starting point is 00:24:04 gunning me, like, just in the car, like, the middle of the street, boom, like that what the fuck? This niggas shooting at me for it. And it's like, yo, you saw you in the car the other day when we were shooting. You know what I'm saying? Like, that type of shit, just, just, you know what I'm saying? And then, you know, you're hanging around this motherfucker. He done there's so much shit.
Starting point is 00:24:20 You don't even know about. You know what I'm saying? This is my best buddy, niggas I grew up with. You know what I'm saying? Really, niggas that's older than me. And they've been putting in work. I'm just getting judged by them, being around them, niggas. They enemies is my enemies now.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Yeah. I remember walking home from school with a black guy from fighting, and my homie, big center, freebie, he's in Pelican Bay right now. They jumped me. They're throwing the trash away. I'm like, what the fuck? Why you fools jumping for? And I either you got jumped or you from the hood.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I'm just like, what the fuck? Like, all right, and I went home and thought about it. I'm just like, I'm just going to get into the hood. These two keep jumping me every time I walk to the trash can or pressing on me. I'm just going to be from K. I used to see him standing on the sidewalk banged the fuck out when they'll drop the bus off for school. And they'll all be right there. I'll bang out like, oh, man.
Starting point is 00:25:06 So it's almost kind of like safety. Yeah, danger used to bang on me every day. Where are you from? I said, dude, you bang on me every fucking day, dog. KHA, all right, fool. I know that. Remember that shit, motherfucker? I'm like, yeah, I'm just going to get into the year. These fool themselves fucking with me.
Starting point is 00:25:22 That's fucked. That's so fucked, though, man. Playing football, all that. Like, man, all right, fuck it. What's the craziest thing? Yeah, but fuck, it's crazy, though. What's, it's, it's like tough love at first, for sure. I have a lot of, I don't regret it. I don't regret it. I don't regret it.
Starting point is 00:25:40 They're both in my hood. And, like, everything I have with my brother, I have that with all my husband. Do you regret any of it? Hell yeah. I do. What do you regret? A gang of shit. A lot of shit, the niggas, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:55 motherfuckers that didn't deserve it. You know what I'm saying? My fucker. Did deserve what? What you did for them? Yeah, what I did to them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Mama's heartbreaking? Yeah, I mean, at the same time, shit, I wouldn't have been in prison. I felt like I wouldn't have been in prison. I felt like I wouldn't, when it went to jail. You know what I said? I could have lived a better life, my nigga. I would have chose something different
Starting point is 00:26:19 than fucking being a gangbanger on God in heaven. But that's a question. Like you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I could have been anything, you know what I'm saying? So why didn't you pick something else? I mean, I was intrigued,
Starting point is 00:26:33 but I was just, it was so, I don't know, it was in me. You know what I'm saying? I didn't really choose that shit. You know what I'm saying? It was just, like I say, it became natural. Everybody I fucked with was a banger or a dope dealer or, you know what I'm saying, getting to the bag. You know what I'm saying? The money was, you know, the bitches. You see, I'm seeing this shit like, man, the cars and all this shit, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yeah. So that shit was, it was entrapment, basically. Yeah. You know, I barely notice they're all from my hood. All three of them. Yeah. They're off of my head. They're all over them.
Starting point is 00:27:08 They all got jobs from you. That's my manager. That's my day-to-day. That's my bodyguard. Honestly, it's where it's where you grew up at. Like, honestly, you didn't grow up in an area, like, how we had to grow up. Like, if you would have grew up when we were growing up at, honestly, you would have got from a neighbor too. I drove to those areas and played around with friends that were in.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Bon Park in a month or not around here, though, up north. You don't like that. Honestly, like, anywhere, like, boom, it doesn't have necessarily be, like, over here, right? But anywhere you grew up in an environment like that, we grew up at, it just, it becomes you. I did my two. And you're infatuated and treat, right? because the bitches like that shit bitches like it
Starting point is 00:27:46 girls like toxic shit that's true the baddest bitches want the games like I played football like man the bitches is on the games it's like oh shit and they take pride in it too I hear from my city
Starting point is 00:27:59 they take pride in the city people are very prideful of the gangs in the city like do you guys think it's ever going to change do you think that mentality will change hell no because you know as everyone talks about like the whole world is gang banging
Starting point is 00:28:10 nigga they got bloods and crips in Africa nigga, you know what I'm saying? My motherfuckers are over here. Barefoot, nigga with Spears, nigga banging. Oh, God. Like, it got everywhere, Japan, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:23 It's a multi-million dollar company, huh? Anywhere, anywhere. It doesn't matter. Asia. Making millions of dollars, all of them, just clocking in millions. If you do it right, if you do it, hey, no, no, no, listen, if you do it right,
Starting point is 00:28:36 you're going to clocking money. If you're doing it right, there's a way to clocking money from that. You know what I'm saying? But you also get smoked, though. Also, you can also be a dummy. They got the dummies in there. They got the smart.
Starting point is 00:28:45 They got the, it's all part of a car. You got the money makers. You got the bangers. You got the, you got the, it all goes together hand in hand. I don't know how to say. It's bullshit, though. The way he put it made me seem like, yeah, you know what? I do regret it.
Starting point is 00:29:01 But I feel like it made me who I am. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't be lefty gunplay without the gang banging. People wouldn't believe my story. Like, but luckily for me, I got a chance. I'm doing it right now, man. I'm doing it right now, man. I'm doing something.
Starting point is 00:29:12 positive telling my story. You guys just, it's rare, it's rare that you see a person like, an essay like me that's been through what I've been through and is this far in the game as I am. I don't think he's ever been done. They're really gang-based. It's really tapping in with, you know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. So how did this come about then?
Starting point is 00:29:32 Because you guys got some songs coming here. Same lifestyles, man. It's just got God's plan. You should put us in the same spot at the same time. Just hit it up. We got a lot of, you know, some, uh, summaries. similar arities or whatever, you know, similar situations that we don't been through. We can relate to it, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:48 And my son really poorly, man. At first, I didn't like this fool. Nigger, gangsters the stage and shit. My fucker pay me to come to a show. This nigga wouldn't get off the stage, blood. I was like, what the fuck? I thought he was doing it on purpose. I like, tell him, let's push, blood.
Starting point is 00:30:04 We're out of here. You know what I'm saying? Dude was like, no, hold on, hold on. I sit him up there trying to tell him, get lefty off the fucking, like, Hold up, man. You fucking up the money, nigga. Like, I was like, hell no, we're gone, fool. Like, we've been waiting two, three hours.
Starting point is 00:30:18 You know what I said? So the homies was like, fuck that, man. You know what I said? Man, I want you to link up with lefty, gunplay, or shit. I was like, nah. I was like, hell no. So then why? Because he politic.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I thought it was politics. You know what I'm saying? But it wasn't even like that. He was just up there drunk as fucking having fun. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? He was vibing out. He was vibing out.
Starting point is 00:30:36 He was vibing like, motherfucker on the stage, though. You know what I said? when other niggas was looking like, you know what I'm saying? Like, nah, blood, these niggins politic thorners on me. That's telling you a lesson, too. That's Tommy election, too. Yeah, so, so, man, when I did, when I finally holler, I told him. I said, man, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:53 Well, we've been trying to link us up and shit, but I weren't feeling that shit. He's like, damn, he didn't know that. He's like, he apologized and shit. We, man, that automatically, like, bonded, you know what I'm saying? When a nigga apologized about it, that's real shit, you know what I'm saying? And then I got to talk to him, like, damn, he got, you got similar ways and shit and then he spit you know what I'm saying you know it's just breaking breaking the ice man between you know all the hardships that we don't been through you know what I'm saying all the misperceptions
Starting point is 00:31:20 and shit that the blacks and the Mexicans is just a big ass niggas got chips on their shoulders you know what I'm saying it ain't even got to be like that you know what I'm saying and we're showing it right now it's not like that you know what I'm saying we're gonna link we linking some shit up we're gonna we're gonna really squash a lot of bullshit yeah I love that let's let's talk about that a little bit more because the recent stuff with like Kendrick and L.A. in the song Uniting the kind of city a little bit. I was viral. That was insane because he brought like people from a bunch of different sets together. There's Crips and essays. On the stage. He was there. He was there. Yeah. Yeah. And what is that
Starting point is 00:31:55 like? What does that mean? That's unity. Man, it's love, it's bondage. That niggas, you know, niggas, uh, been a lot of times been wanting to do that. But, you know what I'm saying? Pride is in the way, you know what I'm saying? They're worried about what the next motherfucker is going to say. If you do, you know what I'm saying? Like squash a bee, you ain't got to be hard all the time, my nigga. We ain't got to kill, kill in every situation. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:20 Does that mean peace? It means peace. And it means more money because you can go over here and fuck with these niggas and get some dough. You know what I'm saying? You can't, like, as opposed to before, you know what I'm saying? You're limiting yourself. You can't go over here and fuck with these dudes. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:34 Because, you know, you got some money you're missing. Yeah, you feel me? But do you think, do you guys, do you guys, you guys can both answer this? Do you guys think that lasts? Because at some point people go, I want a little bit more. Could last. What else would they want? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:47 More money, just more money. Everyone's like that way in every industry. As long as we stay fucking with each other, there's going to be more money. Because you got the whole Mexican fan base. You got the whole Blacks fan base. And you got the whole people that are intrigued by your fan base. So you got both sides instead of it just being black. And so on that exactly, exact point, I had a question.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Do you guys think that like ever, identifying with like the gang aspect of thing limits you on the mainstream sort of stage. It does. I feel like it does. That's my opinion. I feel like it does. It limits me. It's limiting me from going up north.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Yeah, I know that. I don't want to speak too much on that, but it's limiting me from going up there. Real shit. It limits you right? I was going to ask you about that, but I'm like,
Starting point is 00:33:27 I got it. I don't give a fuck. It limits me from that. That's where I'm fucking up at. I'm fucking up a bag because I'm learning from my mistakes as I go. it is or learning from being hard-headed you know what I'm saying but that's fucking my back up right there
Starting point is 00:33:40 like how do you, that's what I'm saying like where do you draw the lines and how do you draw the lines like where do you know when to say okay I can go but I don't want to disrespect this and you know what I'm saying because I don't understand it enough you know
Starting point is 00:33:52 we're working on that now man like I was telling him the other day this fool this North day he wanted to squash the beef with him and shit you know what I'm saying and that'll be a major you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:34:03 step towards you know what I'm saying squashing the beef, man, like on a large scale, you know what I'm saying? So that would affect them. And he was like, I didn't even got a problem with lefty like that. You know what I said? That's what he told me for real. So, you know, I was like, damn, I was over there with him.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I told him, the nigga, get on the shit with us. And he just said, fuck it, ask him, what's up, you know what I'm saying? And that's, niggas, I think that'll be breaking the ice, man. Big time for the message. And, for real, getting money, because this nigga, he'd be going, you know what I said? Niggas is a boss, too, on the other side, you know what I'm saying? These niggas is bosses on their side, you know what I'm saying? And they can start getting money together, bringing a piece together and just never been done before.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah, because it's interesting what's going on right now, at least like from looking at it from what I'm seeing. Obviously, I'm not in. The music game's popping right now. Yeah, and specifically the West Coast. It could be our main connection to Nexus, you know what I'm saying, the link, you know, this music right here will meet doing. You know what I'm saying? It's going to break the ice on a lot of shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:08 You know what I'm saying? Niggas that's growing up that been misled by other fools that ain't even cut like that, my nigga, like, and they're still pushing the bull shit, you know what I'm saying? And basically brainwashing the youngsters, you know what I'm saying? Because they got a certain way, they're feeling now. And they ain't even have shit done to them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:35:28 It's like automatic, like when you're going to the fairs with Washington DC, niggas, you know what I'm saying? Niggas is already fed in their head. fed in their head like, you know what I'm saying? Fuck these niggas, but they're cool too. You know what I got to know them niggas and chop it up with them? You know what I'm saying? They were some cool dude.
Starting point is 00:35:42 That's the question. Like, how do you break the chain? Because, like, the same thing in the prison is the nonstop. Like, it is that way. You know, in prison there's a lot of peace going on in prison. When it's work or the word, but when it's peace keep the peace and everybody wants to keep the peace, it's pointless. But there's a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:35:57 But what Biggie Hill was telling me, we talked about it. And it's just like, I sit there and I think about it like, man, that would be some shit. There really would be some shit, you know. Motherfuckers got to put the eagles to the side and it would break a lot of barriers, like break a lot of trip everybody out, but it's still like, you know, that's what he's working on right now. You get the bag, too. You know what a bag. Now you don't know, the government and all the motherfuckers is giving out bread to these fake gang-banging motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:36:28 For what? I said to like to try to peace treaty type shit, the gang, you know. Bank prevention type shit. I'm saying that they didn't even live the lifestyle. You know what I'm saying? They get in the bag. But how are those people getting identified to be the ones that are having these conversations? I mean, shit.
Starting point is 00:36:46 They've been out of jail. They're the ones staying out there. You know what I'm saying? They get linked up with somebody. All the real ones are locked up, pretty much. A lot of real motherfuckers that have a say-so that I would believe are locked up. That's why nobody really pays attention to it. But the government is giving them money anyways.
Starting point is 00:37:01 It's fucking crazy. They want peach, man You got on a live yesterday Someone was accusing you With some crazy shit Yeah What is that about? Basically,
Starting point is 00:37:11 I don't know who that fool is You know what I'm saying You know Wack had hit me up Saying niggas That said You know some paperwork was out on me I said, nigga shoot that shit
Starting point is 00:37:21 Niggget fuck You got paperwork on me Blood, that's out Paperwork is Meaning Yeah, niggas is snitching and shit Got you
Starting point is 00:37:28 So when I read the paperwork I'm like Ah, start laughing and the shit. I called him back like blood. This is what this is, nigga. You know what I'm caught a case. Motherfucking travelers checks. I'm busting travelers checks and shit. So the police came through. I seen him. I jet. I ran, got away. Took my braids out, took my shirt off, sat in the car, waiting. So he's going from car to car. Look, he found me. Get out. Get out the car. Drew down on me and shit. Who, that was you and man, that wasn't me. I don't know what the
Starting point is 00:38:00 fuck you're talking about. I'm told you got an after. now. You know what I'm saying? He got a tank top home. Took me back in the store to people like, nah, that's not him. He's like, this is him. Run the camera back. The camera, I got them braids in a jersey. You know what I'm saying? But now I got on a tank top in the Afro. They're like, no, that's not him. The cashier was like, that's not him. Like, this is this motherfucker right here. Took me to jail shit. Got a six-pack. Everybody, that's not him. They couldn't pick me out the six-pack. So my lawyer, I'm hiding at my lawyer and shit. He's like, dude, you need a psych.
Starting point is 00:38:34 You know what I'm saying? This is you on camera. Why you're not pleading guilty to this shit? I'm like, fuck you. Ain't nobody picked me out the six pad. That's not me. That's my brother. You can talk about this right now, right?
Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah, on God. That shit is over with. I did my time for the shit. All right, okay. You know what I said? So that's why I told him like, yeah, fuck you. I'm not pleading the shit. That's my brother, Jeremy.
Starting point is 00:38:52 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You're funny. I just made up a motherfucker right. And he's like, oh, yeah, Jeremy, nigga. So he went on to investigate. came back mad. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:04 You sit me on a fucking wild goose chase. Ain't no fucking Jeremy. This is you on camera, motherfucker. I'm not going to trial with you. It quit. My lawyer, you know what I said? I'm like, fuck it, blood. I'm going to play guilty to this shit.
Starting point is 00:39:17 You know what I'm saying? So the paperwork is there. Yeah. He's saying, that's not me. That's my brother, Jeremy. But that's me on camera. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:26 It's no Jeremy, nigga. Yeah, I get it. You feel me? It's just weird. So you try to twist the little shit up. But to say you're snitching it. who I've done that much time is kind of crazy. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:39:35 It's kind of insane. Niggas get butchered, niggas get paycheck paperwork and all that shit off top. That's what you got to do when you go to prison. You got to show your fucking paperwork. What's that? What are you listening to? Some racist shit. Some racist shit.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Some what? Podcasts is rancel about Mexican being guests in hip-hop. Being what in hip-hop? Being guest. Being guest? Yeah, haters' rule. Shut us haters' rule. What do you mean being guests?
Starting point is 00:40:01 I don't know. That's what I'm trying to figure out. Because you're not black. Yeah, I was just, at first, I was looking at it while he was talking. I was trying to make sure my hat looked right. Okay. Because I put it forward. So I started looking in the motherfucking camera.
Starting point is 00:40:14 And I'm like, fuck it. I barely got my Instagram back today. I got 220,000 followers. I got $2 million. I don't know how many you got. I got $220,000. They had to go fly from California. Shot on my GM, Neil.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Solis sent him on a plane. He went to New York. He went to META. He went to META. meta and he saw hey man you guys got my artist lefty gun place instagram down and fucking they took it back and they're like why did you take you down they're like he's talking shit to all kinds of people talking shit back you know yeah so the first time somebody paid to get my shit down second time someone paid to get it ticking down and that shit happens if it's really
Starting point is 00:40:50 that important to you I could pay the bag 3,000 2,000 to get your shit taken down and they're gonna take it down you have the cyber guys this time I guess it was my fault so anyways I better got my Instagram back So I'm like, fuck it I'm gonna do a story At Bradley Martins right now In the cut I'm like oh but he's talking right now
Starting point is 00:41:08 I don't want to him to see Like I'm recording what the fuck He's talking about When I clicked it I seen the first thing You said Mexicans making Hip Hop and I clicked it And I was like
Starting point is 00:41:17 Fuck it was just about And then you caught me Oh okay That's a good story That's a good storyteller Yeah man No you're like to be a good rapper You got to be a good storyteller
Starting point is 00:41:27 Same facts man Right I feel like rap He helps me express myself gives me something to do If I knew how to tattoo it would have been tattooing If I knew how to do this Drawing, it would have been drawing
Starting point is 00:41:38 What really helped me was rapping And raping is not really that glorifying In the Mexican community in prison You don't want to go to prison at level four And say you're a fucking rapper Like The homies are gonna be like What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:41:51 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, why? Just because it's like a black thing? It's a black thing. It's really a black thing It's black culture You know what I'm saying? It's black. we rap we took from it you know
Starting point is 00:42:02 it's expression ourselves but it's a black thing it really is and I admit that black started to rap you know what I'm saying? Yeah When we took it now We embraced from it We jog from it whatever But yeah it's a black thing
Starting point is 00:42:14 And level four yards is where it's I feel the most segregated at So I'm not gonna go You know with all the hummies I'll write my rass but I keep it to myself Yeah I'm not gonna go and spit them out there on the yard To the OG and tell the hummus A yard like no it's just something I had
Starting point is 00:42:29 to myself in plans and now since I actually did make it and we're all benefiting from it now those same people that would be like what the fuck but they're like okay I see it I see you now I see where the fuck you're coming from
Starting point is 00:42:42 keep that shit going it's crazy that's how everything is though a matter what you do like no one believes in you until like everyone goes until everyone believes in you then they're like oh that shit is cool
Starting point is 00:42:51 yeah I told you that shit was cool I almost quit so many times too I almost quit I remember him himself right there on my manager Graham he's like you want to be a rapper I got out the county this time pending the investigation and he's like
Starting point is 00:43:02 What's up, let's go to the hood I'm like now If I'm gonna be a rapper And he looked at me like He'll be a fucking rapper I remember that shit We're in the living room In my hood
Starting point is 00:43:11 I'm like yeah If I'm gonna be a rapper now fool He's like whatever dog And he bounced out with all the homies I remember playing him My first song Like here this she goes Yeah that's cool fool
Starting point is 00:43:20 I'm gonna be in the hood Fool holler I mean And that shit fucked me up Them two steps to take 10 back forward Because it cannot be Gang Bang rap gang bang rap bitches it got to be rap rap rap rap rap rap rap rap you got to really sacrifice the pussy the the the the hood and just lock yourself in that room and just really focus and sacrifice
Starting point is 00:43:38 you're selling dope go broke for a little bit you know right when i was about to quit that's right when i made it yeah right when i was about to get it's how it always is man everything speak on that from from your perspective though too i want to hear no he real that's the shit that's why i just came straight to the booth literally from a sale when they let me out that motherfucking prison sale. I got an Uber and, uh, well, they took me to the county jail because I had another case. But when I left out that county jail and I bailed out, I caught an Uber straight to the motherfucking, uh, straight to the studio. You make some shit down. I don't know. Oh, God. Same day, my nigga. So how, how many, go ahead? I didn't leave that motherfucker. It's like my prison cell,
Starting point is 00:44:19 the booth, the studio is one to one to another. Yeah. But obviously this was more comfortable. Hell yeah, yeah. You got some Uber eats, maybe. You got some food, right? You got everything. Yeah. I was really peaceful. I tell a lot of people sometimes I'm famous now and all that, whatever. I wouldn't want to go back to prison but some of the times where my mind has been the most peaceful is in that cell. Nobody fucking with me. You don't
Starting point is 00:44:40 got to worry about the outside, nothing. I'm just writing music high or we're just drunk or just by myself. How are you high and drunk and I'm still not getting this? Man, they got it in and shit. That's a real thing. That's a real thing. They got everything in there, man. That's how I made it. Whatever you want in there, they got it. That is
Starting point is 00:44:56 fucking crazy to me. We didn't drink and I made wine, you know what I'm saying, I made that shit. There's a bob, ruby now on there. Fuck. So, so you got out, you went straight to the studio, and since you've been out, how much, how many songs have you made? I got about 700. How do fuck, how is that even, like, in a year?
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah. How was it even possible? Making 10 songs a day. Me, hear me, like, five songs, you're like one day. Five songs in a day. Yeah. It should just come like that. What's the favorite song that you go?
Starting point is 00:45:24 Do you have, like, a song you're like, I like this from a much? My favorite is bad guy. Bad guy. That's hard shit I like a mom I like the one with X4 Shout out
Starting point is 00:45:34 84 the MacGlor Yeah You really got embraced When you got out Like Snoop was talking about A lot of people Were talking about you As soon as you got out
Starting point is 00:45:39 What is that like Because like going from That sort of You know Stuck in a system To like Everyone is like Embracing you
Starting point is 00:45:46 That's got to be Shit it was You know It was heartwarming Yeah You know what I'm saying Like these niggas Is pulling up
Starting point is 00:45:52 Basically I didn't have to get at them And try to get No feature And nothing like that they just popped up, you know what I'm saying? Hey, some of them were famous and you don't, because you've been in prison so long, you know what's going on?
Starting point is 00:46:02 Some of them are famous and you're like, who the fuck's that? And you're just like, what's up for? That's crazy. I don't really know these d'nors like, oh shit. It's like Nipsey. I didn't know what fucking Nipsey. It's just getting at me like, nigga, I'm a fan, nigga. Like, I'm like, yeah, I knew it's a crib, but I'm like,
Starting point is 00:46:19 looking blood up and down. Like, whatever, nigga. He's like, nah, nigga, I bump your shit every morning, nigga, who were brushing my teeth. And I fuck with your boy Like, I fuck with your boy real tough You know, so my hip boy I'm like, yeah, all right
Starting point is 00:46:33 He stepped in front of me like, nah, in a real way Like, like, had to look at me in the eyes and shit And I'm like, yeah, all right, nigga I still didn't know who the fuck he was I never heard his music or nothing I never knew Nipsey Hussing. How long ago is this? That was shit, 2014
Starting point is 00:46:47 Because you had been in and out Obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you didn't, at that time you out, you didn't find out to learn more about what he was at? No, I didn't, I still didn't know who he was until I went back to jail and he, you know, hit, yeah, I called me and shit.
Starting point is 00:47:01 I had a cell phone in there. And he was Nipsey Hustle was like, hey, let me do that grinding my whole life. And I was like, shit, go ahead, nigga, fuck it. That's when he came with that all my life, gone in on my life. So wait, where did that song come from then? That's my shit. That's yours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Oh, really? That song's fucking amazing. Yeah, we, you wrote that? I mean, yeah, me and hit boy, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's our song. He just, he remixed it. He did his own version of it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:30 You know what I'm saying? Wow. So he asked you to do that. Yeah, he asked if we do it. Wow. That song's a hit. Yeah, real nigga, yeah. That song's amazing.
Starting point is 00:47:42 It's one of my favorites. Yeah, yeah, all right. Yeah, rest in peace, nip. And that's the thing when you start talking about all this, because it's, I don't know, man. It just seems like it never ends good. Because, like, I don't know so the details of it, but it seems like there was someone from his own.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Yeah, that's how I go, niggas just be hating, man. They just feel like, you know, they should be in that position or, you know, you're supposed to be looking out, nigga, or something like that, but where the fuck was you at, nigga, when I was locked up, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Couldn't even get, nigga, $50 green dot, you know what I'm saying? Fuck, you know, I couldn't get no, no J-pay, nigger, or nothing. Like, you wouldn't even answer my fucking calls, nigga.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I didn't even have your number, nigger, shit, so how you feel? feel obligated. And I come home and I feel like I owe you everything, yeah. You feel like what? And then you come home and they're like, man, what's so my boy? Like that's the boy like, man, you, you, you weren't there, just like, motherfucker trying to bring you down and try to you. Bitches, too.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Bitches be like, bitch, I don't give a fuck about how fake your tities or how fake your asses. Bitch, like, where were you at when I was locked up? Where were you at when I was in jail? And it always hits me like, fuck her. This bitch wouldn't be the firm if I was locked up. Based on that. That's what when it really counts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:53 No, when you're down, 100% when you're the most down. My mama that's it, my mom, a couple of the homies. Because obviously, like, not everyone can relate to that, specifically with the jail thing and being, people not being there for them. But in life in general, a lot of people can relate to the fact that, like, when you're down, people aren't really fucking with you. So now that you guys are up, how do you determine who's really fucking with you in a good way and not just a way where they're like, yo, I'm trying to ride your coat tail.
Starting point is 00:49:17 You just tell you, I feel it. I feel it. I feel it. Better judgment. Common sense. I feel like. Yeah, I don't trip. I just be, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Like, in the end reason. old, I'm still going to do me. I'm like, you know what I'm saying? I peep gang, like, niggas is just trying to bring a nigga down and try to test your gangster. Just, you know what I'm saying? Just if a, if nigga want to try me blood, that's going to be your worst
Starting point is 00:49:40 mistake, because I'm going to go there, nigga. I'm not going to, I'm not going to think about this rap shit, nigga. I'm going to still be me. I'm going to snap back into my zone, my prison mentality. And I still stand on prison principles, even on the street. You know what I'm saying? I can't be
Starting point is 00:49:56 no other way. You know what I'm saying? That's it. Period. I don't steal, nigga. I don't do none of that fuck shit. I don't, you know, see if you can motherfucker have whatever right there. I will not touch it, nigga. Yeah, that part. You know what I'm saying? I don't see niggas get butchered over instead of fucking honeybund or some bullshit of soda, nigga.
Starting point is 00:50:16 So on that, what has, what has, I guess, your life in general in prison and your time and gang shit and everything? What does it taught you? What do you think is the most beneficial thing that it's taught you? Shit, to be a man, a stand-up motherfucker all around the board, man. You know what I'm saying? It's principles that you stand on, stand-on business. Your word is everything.
Starting point is 00:50:37 That's all you got. You got nothing else. You got your word and your balls, my nigga. Like, Scarface, say blood, and you got to stand on it. You tell the motherfucker something, that's what it better be. You know what I'm saying? You're telling me righty, you got to stab him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I'm a gang. That's how our shit goes, yeah, shit. It's like a respect thing. Prison bar make a man out of the little hummus on the games. Yeah, for sure, respect. A lot of good people in there. A lot of solid motherfuckers in there.
Starting point is 00:51:04 A lot of people, solid people. Nowadays, I feel like people out here don't teach little homies the game. Like, the way that... I feel like I'm the last of it to where the older homies taught me the game. Now out here on the streets, the game's changing.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Like, it's like... It ain't like what it was. In what way? I'm glad I got the... I'm glad I made it to prison while, you know, I still... They still taught me those morals in those, you know, just basic shit
Starting point is 00:51:27 reading body language, you know what I'm saying? Be vigilant, be respectful, be humble, wash your hands, you know what I'm saying? Be clean, first impressions is everything. We don't beat women. Shit, just a bunch of shit like that, you know what I'm saying? Eye contact, you know, workout is the main thing.
Starting point is 00:51:42 If I could tell any kids, any advice, work out, do some pushes, like, just be respectful, don't steal, don't, don't, don't, don't yell at women, like cat calling, stuff like that, just shit like that. you see it out here's like oh that's out because it's already embedded in me you know already just sunk into my memory you grew up in there so it's just a trip and it's cool man i learn i know how to talk to a person this is 60 70 years old i know how to talk to a person is 20 25 years old
Starting point is 00:52:11 so you just learn how to talk to different people you know everybody has their own story you know i'm saying just i don't know it's a trip man it really made me uh the level four is probably Everybody should start on a level four, I believe. I don't think like level two, level three. Level four is everybody just gives you game. They soak you up a game from the start. What they say, you can only teach you, once a dog's taught, he's already stuck in his way.
Starting point is 00:52:36 You know what I'm saying? Like once they taught that food, he's already stuck in his way. He already got molded the way that they wanted to mold him. So that's it. You know what I'm saying? Not everybody's like that. They want to learn. Some do, some don't.
Starting point is 00:52:48 If it is to be, it's up to me. Shit like that. So you think the kids, Nowadays, like, kind of who are in and around it. Yeah, they're kind of different. So they hit a four yard. They won't hit them, but I remember my homies teaching me about prison since I was younger. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:01 Telling me about prison, like prison, you know, shit like that. Just giving me game and it really helped me out. Want to know something that helps me on the streets? You never walk when you're on the streets thugging and the cars are coming behind you. You don't know who the fuck's in the roll up. You walk when the cars are coming towards you so you can see what cars are coming at you. And girls get all happy when you never let the girl walk on the outside by the the car yeah no you put the girl on the inside boom yeah safe like that just shit like
Starting point is 00:53:26 yeah you said something to me last time it went pretty viral you were talking about um taking a trip and like to the beach to get my mind right yeah do you i want to ask you this question do you do you do anything like i don't know you i don't know if you saw this clip or any any sort of understanding of it but basically a moment in the pod where we were talking him about um he takes time leaves his phone kind of just goes and disappears like you know in the middle of the night, no one really know what's going on, and he's just kind of like clearing his mind sitting in the beach. Is there anything that you do that is like personal to you that like helps you kind of center yourself? No, I just hit the gym. Me too. Yeah, me too. That's what
Starting point is 00:54:08 I just think about a lot of shit when I really put my phone down and shit, you know, get away from everybody, isolate myself like the hole, like I'm in the shoe, like just nobody around, no phone calls and none of that shit just think about shit in that gym you know in the booth too the shit
Starting point is 00:54:26 in the studio my nigga is like my new cell you know it's got to it's I'm sorry go ahead no go ahead I was going to say
Starting point is 00:54:34 it's got to be pretty interesting like having gone through that and then being out in like normal life obviously there's different challenges but everything has to feel
Starting point is 00:54:42 just a little bit easier right fuck yeah like you've gone through probably the hardest thing possible to go through and you're here You survived it.
Starting point is 00:54:51 And to be able to be out in this world, it seems like it's easier. Most definitely. Like, you know, the biggest struggle was just fucking just not, you know, chasing the bag. That's it. That's my biggest struggle, man, because I know I can be getting it, but it's consequences to this shit. But in a fucked up way. Yeah, I mean, yeah. I mean, it got consequences to it.
Starting point is 00:55:14 My nigga and it's life-threatening. It's a risk. It's a risk, for sure. That's just the biggest thing, my niggas just being patient trying to get money. Yeah. Because I don't understand that bullshit. Oh, this on real quick, just before I forget. Yeah, this on, this is also, yeah, you get impatient trying to get money.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I feel like I'm making so much money with this rap, and I'm making more money. I'm making $15,000 a show, $10,000 a show. Sometimes I'll take $8,000. That $7 don't even last as long as when I had $40,000 in the trailers in my home. I'll stretch that for you all the way. Instead of that $8,000, $10,000, it goes like that. And it doesn't even go to the issues goes and giving money away to the homies
Starting point is 00:56:00 because I got a good heart. And here's a honey, he's a honey, here's a honey, here's a honey. My mom, here's for honey. My mom, she, here's for honey. Baby mom's here, da-da-da-da-da. You know, go buy shit for everybody. So, yeah, that money that I'm making, I learned to learn how to budget my money more.
Starting point is 00:56:13 But what I wanted to tell you was the time when I'm the happiest over any high I've ever done, any drug I've ever done better than sex maybe about semi-sex is probably when I'm performing and they're all yelling my lyrics
Starting point is 00:56:29 it's like I don't know what the fuck yeah that's different it just feels good dog it just when you sell out I sold out a couple times recently since we last talked I sold out Arizona Utah just to see the way
Starting point is 00:56:39 the people fuck with you like the whole shit's packed and they're all yelling left-dee left-ed that shit's just a crazy-ass high that's a crazy addiction They're all just bouncing their hand. Literally from the front to the back,
Starting point is 00:56:55 pack just everybody yelling your fucking name in another state. Well, I think that's it. It's core. That it's core. Your words can, you know, your words can be powerful. Your words and what you're saying can be very powerful to a person, you know what I'm saying? So I know that what I'm saying, I got a spotlight, I got a platform. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:57:16 I know what the fuck I'm saying? People are listening to you. and so hopefully I'm going to try to put it a little bit to some positive and you know I got to start giving back to my community so awesome nip shit like you know what I'm saying that's something I haven't done yet but it's going to get there now but it's beautiful that what you're saying I think innately humans like that act it's because it's a sort of act of service like you feel like because you're getting this recognition what you're doing people are appreciated it's hard to get somebody to recognize
Starting point is 00:57:41 you like that and to get LA to love you yeah I got a lot of haters but a lot of foods will be trolling but at the same time I got a lot of I got a lot of motherfuckers that want to see me win. And I feel like they want to see me win because of my story. Because they can relate. You've got to have both, by the way. You got to have love and A. I'm really like that.
Starting point is 00:57:59 I really, I really was down like that. I was really broke. Why they're mad at me because I'm getting some money now? You know what I'm saying? Just, I don't know. I trip out on it. But yeah, I read every single comment. I read all the bad ones.
Starting point is 00:58:10 But there's a lot of good ones. But at the end of the day, like, I'm going to keep doing me. I'm going to continue to do me. I'm going to prosper. And shout out of them. I'll be the first one to take my shirt off my back to that person
Starting point is 00:58:18 they left that commie. Yeah. But it's a beautiful thing though, man. Like I said, like we, like humans, I think the most fulfilling thing we could ever do is feel like we're in some sort of active service
Starting point is 00:58:28 which is like this is a different version of it. Inspired the world. Someone appreciating things, the art, the work that you're doing, the things that you're saying, the things that like people are able to learn from you. I mean, ultimately like that's what actually matters. Like, what's your purpose?
Starting point is 00:58:41 Exactly. Why are you doing what you're doing? And what's the reason for it? What is someone getting from it? And are you helping, others because at the end of the day like you're going to die with all your money who gives the fuck it's like what do you leave behind yeah that's one thing i said when i sat for this last pending investigation i sat for it i got out did a stretch got out did a year for a gun got
Starting point is 00:58:59 out whatever the fuck caught a pending investigation i was sitting for that when i sat for that pending investigation i said damn and i always wanted to be in the back of my mind i wanted to be a rapper i'm like and i in my mind i said i can be a rapper like i got it because i'll be in jail L.A. County jail, the blacks would be like, you're hard. So if you're in L.A. County jail, the blacks are telling the Mexican that you hard, you're probably hard. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:59:22 So the blacks would be like, you hard, fool. You need to go rap, though. You're tight. So fucking, when I sat for that penny, I said, man, my worst fucking nightmare would be that I got locked up and did a stretch and I didn't follow my dream. I didn't try to see what could have been
Starting point is 00:59:38 because I'll sleep at night and I'll see it in my mind. I remember my cellie waking up in the middle of the night, three in the morning, he'd be like, what, I'm like, fool, you don't even believe it. He's like, what? I said, I was selling now. I was at a concert and I was performing. Fool, shut the fuck up, go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Be seen it. I'm like, fool, I've seen it, dog, in my head, though. I'm telling him for I'm going to be famous when I get out. And they're like, nah, shut up, fool. Everybody mentioned me from jail, like, yeah, you really did that shit. But yeah, my biggest flu would be for me to not have followed my dream and chase it. That's why this time. And what really made me want to do the rap was when my mom told me that,
Starting point is 01:00:09 damn, Frankie, we don't got no money to change the refrigerator and the food's going bad. We can't even put a down payment and rent one. That's when I said, fuck, I got to get it, dog. I told my mom, it was November when I got out, November 25th. I said, if I don't make it by December, we're gone. By December, I had already signed with OTR. By December, we were already meeting with Atlantic
Starting point is 01:00:27 300, all that. I just really, the pressure, when your backs against the wall, you'll figure it out. When you're backs against the wall, you'll figure that shit out. She's like selling, owing money for dope and jail, fool. When you're hungry, when you owe money for dope and jail, you're about to get whacked, or you
Starting point is 01:00:43 I don't know. Bigger relay, you'll figure that money out. You won't figure it out. But that's what happened, man. My back was against the wall. We were really poor. We were really broke. I couldn't keep up with the payments for a car.
Starting point is 01:00:53 And then I made it, and I bought her a car, bought a refrigerator. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. That's a big, that's a big achievement of success to somebody for me. You know what I'm saying? It came from nothing. So there's questions for both you guys. How do you continue to make it and to grow when your back's not against the wall?
Starting point is 01:01:11 And you have more. Stay out of the line. You have more of the opportunity. They're out of jail. Sure, stay out of jail. Would I just be me? I'm not pressed. My nigga, like, I don't really give a fuck about the next motherfucker or a status.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I'm not trying to get to a hell of a status. I'm just being me. You don't care about the celebrity. No, I don't. A lot of niggas, I don't even know who celebrities is, you know. They know me, but I don't know who they are. You know what I'm saying? But I'm not trying to be that all extra-out celebrity.
Starting point is 01:01:43 You know, type shit. That shit is all hype to me. I'm just a real nigger. And that's what niggas is resonating to. A lot of dudes, you know what I'm saying? Loving the fact that man, hit boy bonded so tight. We're still tight after all that time. And niggas, you know, I'd have homies like,
Starting point is 01:01:59 niggas, fuck my daddy, nigger. You know what I'm saying? But now they're saying niggas, like, man, you know what? Just seeing that bond with you and your son, homie, made me reach out to my pops. You know what I'm saying? And niggas, vice versa. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:02:11 You had niggas like, nigg, Like, nigga, fuck that bitch, nigga, fuck that baby, all that shit. You know what I'm saying? He's hating, hate a bitch so bad, he ain't fucking with his own kids. You know what I'm saying? And a nigga been in jail forever. Bitch left him for dead or whatever. And, you know, niggas now is getting at their kids and looking like, man, they want that bond.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Yeah. You know? I learned a lot from him. I learned a lot from him. I would describe him as nonchaline, like, you know what I'm saying? Just like, you know, gang shit, not shalon. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I never seen him like, like what he said it. It's what it, like, you don't give a fuck. Like, it is what it is. He just does him. He's just chilling. What do you really want to, what do you want to teach or give from your music? Shit. I want to just, you know what I'm saying, show niggas I was in my position.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Niggas I was just hopeless that, man, don't never give up. You know what I'm saying? You can happen, man. You can, you know what I'm saying, achieve your goals with everything that you think. in your brain, you know what I'm saying, what a man think, what a man thinking, that's what you could be. If you think it, you could see it, you could be it, you know what I'm saying, real talk. And I'm living proof, you know what I'm saying, that you don't never give up.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Yeah, you fuck. Niggas is, you know, too old to rap and all this shit, like, all that shit. I wasn't giving a fuck. If niggas didn't like me or not, I'm going to still be spitting my shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, real shit. If you didn't like it, nigga, fuck you. I'm doing this for me.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Yeah. You know what I'm saying. I think a lot of you fuck that up. They forget about doing things for. for themselves and they try to please or make everyone else happy along the way. Who stole the bottom? Right, I got you. Hey, nobody going to see your vision, dog.
Starting point is 01:03:49 What I say, nobody's going to see your vision, dog. Nobody's going to see you fucking crazy. Yeah, and I'm trying to get around to the positive rap too, you know what I'm saying? What it's like, they love this gangster shit, you know what I'm saying? It's more than that. I got, it's more than that to me, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying. I've been through a whole line.
Starting point is 01:04:09 You know, most rappers, you've been out a while. you've seen that change, the levels of the change of shit with me, I'm going like, I don't know, you're not seeing the change, you know what I'm saying? You're going to, it's all in one. I'm giving you a variety of shit. I can come with the bitches. I can come with the party shit. I can come with the gang shit. I got it all. You know what I say? I just haven't released it yet. You know what I'm saying? It was funny when I first heard your, when you came I first heard your music, I thought you were way younger. Yeah. Like way young, your voices, just when you're on, when you're on, it sounds like, you saw you were in your mid-20s or
Starting point is 01:04:39 something. No, I really am, though. You know what I'm saying? For real. Yeah, my nigga in the pen, my nigga, all the homies that I work out with is 20, 21. Ain't nobody over 30, 30, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Niggas my age is up in the block, nigga, you know what I'm saying? Watching TV and shit. You know what I'm saying? Very few is out there getting active, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:04:59 And I didn't have scraps and faves with little homies like, blood, I got this, I got, I got your, I got your fake. Niggin, I got my own phase. You know what I'm saying? I stay ready. You know what I'm saying? Because niggas be getting pumped, you know what I'm saying? real shit, then them young niggas will run you over if you don't stay up and ready. They don't give a fuck, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:17 They don't get more points. There's not the respect thing of the old age. Yeah, no, there's something, but there's something in prison. There's something in prison there. I just want to, I want to be the one to lay the yard down. I want everybody to say, damn, fucking lefty did that shit. You know what I'm saying? When you're young, it's like something out of you being cuffed up, you're being the one
Starting point is 01:05:33 to drop the yard. The whole yard drops, everybody knows that you did that. You know what I said? Yeah, everybody knows I did that. When I was young and I was in Pelley, it was all about who had the most points. That motherfucker right, they got 248 points. Well, he got 156 points. How do you get points, though?
Starting point is 01:05:47 Stabbing fools. Ride-ups. Stavvy motherfuckers, writers, bootbox, removals. Shit like that. Do you get more points for certain things? Sorry if I'm... When you look at the paperwork, you're like, oh shit, he's a writer. When I'm reading your paper, like, okay, how do you get access to the paperwork, though?
Starting point is 01:06:03 You got to check it mandatory. Mandatory when you come in, I got to see your paperwork before I give you anything. The paperwork ought to clear out your 128-g. You can't stay on the yard if you're going to show your paperwork. Yeah. There's no way to hide it either. Even the CEOs, if you're no good, the CEOs will tell you silly, hey, that fool.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Right. The police will tell on your eyes. Yeah. That's what I'll tell you. That motherfuckers want to be gangsters so bad, homie. You know what I'm saying? They'll be like, hey, watch out with that foots. Wow.
Starting point is 01:06:30 And they'll be like, oh, fuck, you know. Oh, I don't got it right now. I got to get a sent in. And you always got to get the homie the benefit of the doubt. Okay, cool. We'll write the courts then. With the homie, we'll write the course. courts we'll send it off 48 hours and then when he writes before he writes a court out keep
Starting point is 01:06:43 an eye on that four and next he knows he runs out he check in because the paperwork you got to check you got to check the paperwork before we give you anything you don't got nothing coming so we see the paperwork it's so crazy to me no escaping the paperwork is there anything obviously there's not this specific thing the paperwork but is there anything that you feel like is still like that in your in your current life whereas like you feel like you you have to like get certain points or like she eats or things. Hell not. No, fuck no.
Starting point is 01:07:12 I feel like I don't got to do shit no more. I got to get that money, nigga. That's the only thing. These motherfuckers me go slide the other night, huh? I'm sorry, my bad. Wait a second. You kick it, go kick it into the other, man. I want to go kick it into the...
Starting point is 01:07:27 You know what I say about a lot of rappers? Wait, wait. And I don't know the last thing. I don't want to talk about the world because you got mad at me. You want to know what I say about a lot of rappers? Do your homeboys love you? Do your homies respect you?
Starting point is 01:07:37 If I ask about you and I remember, and I run into your homies in jail and I'd be like, you know your homeboy he'll be rapping I know all my homies are gonna be like yeah he's a real one
Starting point is 01:07:43 he's from the hood a lot of these rappers I'd be like hey you know your homie man he's full a bitch like you know I'm like damn all right
Starting point is 01:07:50 a lot of rappers when you're in jail it's a small world so I appreciate that I'm respected by my homeboys my homeboys love me my homies know what it is
Starting point is 01:07:58 at the end of day my homies love me and my neighborhood is back in me then obviously it's good I'm saying if I'm out of line these will be the first
Starting point is 01:08:04 who's like you know what I'm saying So, yeah, you see how you got mad at me right now? Yeah, I stopped it, shut it down. Yeah. Well, I'm going to edit that, by the way. No, no trip, leave it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:15 In the, you're full, in music right now of the rappers, are there, I don't name names who aren't, but who are the realest ones, in your opinion? Lefty gunplay. Big hit. I don't even know. Ex-for the McClure. I don't follow no rappers and none of that shit. Yeah. I don't listen.
Starting point is 01:08:34 The McClure. I don't listen to. I don't listen to no other. But you would know, like, wouldn't you know if certain rappers are really about that life? Y.S. X-4? That the gun play? I really don't know. I mean, I have no clue. I don't know. I don't follow niggas and I don't know what hood they're from. Car rap for now. He's good. I get you. So, I can't speak on it.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Jay Worthy, for sure. His blood be in the hood with it. And don't see. He ain't ducking nothing. You know what I said? I can't say no names. man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know that. I don't say he would it. I had to ask some podcast questions.
Starting point is 01:09:11 I apologize. I'd ask you that. This ain't, this ain't no, this ain't no, shit. Man, what, what, who wanted, no, man, I'm not going to say, who's going to pull up on me later. I got a question for you, though. Adam said, Adam said you passed out on stage. He was like, what the fuck.
Starting point is 01:09:25 He took it back. He did. He took it back. He said, I apologize. She left the gunplay. What's going on with him? He's going to pull up on me today, right? Off the camera.
Starting point is 01:09:34 He wants to talk to me. Yeah. And apologize. with me or shit that you know i got no problem with him dog it is what it is he's a podcaster i'm in a different lane but you got to deal with these podcasters when you're trying to make it to where you want to get to yeah fair so i got no problem with him i'm going to talk to him off the camera we're meeting today as a matter of fact i think after this huh me and out of 22 cool i like i here yeah yeah he's cool man he's cool he's just dumb he just doesn't know
Starting point is 01:09:59 understand what's going on but i got no right to tell him who he brings on his podcast but did i faint hell not did i faint fool these motherfuckers pull me down by my belt and they got it from a different angle they were all there I never fainted on the game
Starting point is 01:10:13 I saw I saw the other angle where you jumped off I never fainted me and motherfuckers run with it when you're on top the Dodger the Dodger Stadium volleyball
Starting point is 01:10:23 yeah so I'm already wrapping on a little stage this big the 12 foot drop I'm like this already trying to wrap and they're throwing beach balls
Starting point is 01:10:31 and I got to dodge beach ball too and I'm lefty gunplay I can't get right so you can't You can only go left. I can't chew bubble going to walk. Yeah, so I'm going to eat shit.
Starting point is 01:10:39 That's crazy. On the motherfucking girl, I was real. So I'm like, I got mad when they too. And my people were the people that brought the balls. My people thought it would be a good idea. Hell no, bad idea. No more balls for the other shows. No more, no more.
Starting point is 01:10:51 No more volleyball. What do you guys looking forward to the most right now? Money. Right. Oh, God. I love that. Money, man. So in your, so in your minds, you get money, right?
Starting point is 01:11:03 Say he had all the money in the world. I'll be happy. Then what, all the money, though? Then what do you do? Get back to the community. Shit, I would pay for my freedom. Shit, I owe the fucking fares $140,000. You owe $140,000?
Starting point is 01:11:14 If I don't pay it, my ass is out of here, the prison. Really? Yeah. I've got like four, five more days, my nigga. I got four or five more days, nigga, to pay these motherfuckers. Really? Man, that's right. You said 45?
Starting point is 01:11:27 Four or five more days, yeah. Okay, guys. I got some cars to sell and shit, motherfuckers just trying to jukeme out my shit. I can't let it go like that. You know what I'm saying? He's not lying either. We talked about this shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Well, you know, we got some shit. They're shopping our mis-tape right now. Yeah, they're shopping our tape right now in New York. I got somebody in New York right now shopping our ship to Atlantic and all that. They want to buy it. Because there's never been no real, hey, come on, man. Finish it down. What if I?
Starting point is 01:11:53 They never been no real Surreno, like me from LA and a real blood from LA. This is under time. Older, younger, generation, generation. Pasadena. Came through like that. Same area. And the shit, in the shit bangs, though. The shit is hard.
Starting point is 01:12:10 So you got the Mexicans in L.A. bouncing to it. There's a lot of Mexicans in L.A. You got the blacks in L.A. bouncing to it. We throw a show, my nigga, that's shit going to be epic. Man, same area. That shit hard. It's hard. A lot of people can relate to it.
Starting point is 01:12:23 A lot of blacks and Mexicans are going to come together off this shit. On this shit, yeah. One of them is going to be the one. I'm going to show you outside when we done one of the songs. You'll be like, oh, shit. Yeah, I want to listen to it. That shit. That's hard.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Yeah. I'm not bullshit. I swear to God, it's the hardest shit out. This shit hard. This shit is hard. I'll drink to that. And his son, his son produced it, hip boy. Rex in the middle.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Yeah, he went to J. Kanye West Paris. He's done crazy work. Yeah, he did some crazy shit with me in here, man. We've got, we've already, like, we already got six, seven songs. You got to finish that shit full? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you show up late?
Starting point is 01:13:00 He was on time on time. They're ready to go, man. I'm going to get hip boy. Like these guys are ready to go. Yeah. I'm going there, I don't bullshit. It's like, get up in there. I don't waste the time either.
Starting point is 01:13:13 So for an essay to know how to rap, tonight we're going to do shit, huh? We'll pull up. And for an essay to know how to rap, it's like, and keep up with the blacks, just like, damn, okay? And I'm keeping up. I'm keeping up. But it's hard to write shit every fucking day.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Like, I've already ran out of lyrics. My good shit, I already wrote it. So now I've got to write new lyrics and I really got to lock myself in and get in my head. and just locked the doors and all that and nobody fuck with me and I've got to write a banger. This is what I'm really curious about,
Starting point is 01:13:41 that concept, right, of writing lyrics and, like, inspiration. If you've kind of told the story in a couple different variations or a couple of different ways and your life now is different. There's a gang of stories to tell. But you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:13:53 Like, how do you continue the inspiration? I don't like talking about the... To me, myself, 95% of my viewers on YouTube studio are males. So that means, in my mind, my opinion, to my shit. Only 5% are females. You know what I'm saying? So 95% are males. A lot of my fans are gang members. Like, you know, people, when I go to my shows, yeah, there's bitches in the
Starting point is 01:14:15 front, but a lot of them are straight gang bangers. Like, okay, cool, that's my crowd because that's the shit I'm rapping about. That's what I'm going through. They can relate. I can't rap about bitches shaking ass or in the club because I'm barely going through that right now. And that's not how I feel. I'm not happy right now. I'm broken. I'm fucked up inside. So that's what I rap about what the fuck I'm going through. And there's so many ways, so many songs, so many angles to go about that lifestyle. That's where I'm at. I'm trying to make that transition to start talking about
Starting point is 01:14:39 happier shit, making money, being rich, hitting the club, fucking bad bitches. It's hard to do that. But that's the transition I'm making right now. Yeah. So once you start making more money. So that's why I got you asked you that question.
Starting point is 01:14:52 I'm making cool money. No, no, but I'm saying like when you, I ask the question about the money. Say you had all the money in the world. What are you doing? Giving back to my community. All right. Blessing there. Yep. Bringing things up out to struggle.
Starting point is 01:15:03 I'm creating businesses, you know what I'm saying? A couple Lamborghinis. Property. There you go. Property. I'm going to get a law firm and a bail bonds company. Oh, that's a good one. That's where all my fucking money went to.
Starting point is 01:15:16 I want to help the homies out, get out, get out of prison, you know what I'm saying? Niggas that I was walking a yard with, no, the niggas that was in my position that knew they was, you know, ain't nobody just all the way innocent, but they didn't deserve the fucking time they got. The time don't match the crime. Don't say. That's super common. And the only way you're going to get out is you really know about the laws and shit. And it's fucked up because a lot of homies don't know about them.
Starting point is 01:15:38 No one knows that shit, bro. And they got dead in. My nigga, like, motherfuckers is walking the yard. Like, fuck it, blood. I'm going to die in this motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Noggin' hair around and all kind of shit doing spice and shit.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Like, just like just trying to say, numb the pain, nigga. Like, numb the pain. It is such a crazy thing, though, the system. The system's crazy because I, I obviously I don't know enough about the system. in my own way, this is not related to what you guys are doing, but I went to court for a ton for keeping my gym open during COVID. And what I realized, because I went to like a little criminal court and there's like a bunch of other people who are doing criminal things
Starting point is 01:16:14 and they kind of cycle you through in the court. And I'm, I have a judge, I have a, obviously I have a judge, but we have a lawyer and my lawyer knows everything. I don't know anything. And then you have people who don't have money to pay a lawyer and they could represent themselves. Public defenders. Or they get a public defender.
Starting point is 01:16:28 But like those people don't really give a fuck that much about you. And then if you do it yourself, because they allow you to do it yourself. but it's like no one knows this shit and the crazy- don't give a fuck about you. That's the crazy thing about it is like
Starting point is 01:16:38 if you don't know enough you get fucking wrapped the fuck up for dumb shit. And I had money to pay for someone to know enough obviously because of the position that I was in thank God
Starting point is 01:16:48 it's fucking crazy it's such a- And I saw it first hand You can know it all too and they still won't respect you I didn't represent myself a couple of times Yeah, the shit's fucked up man It's bad dude
Starting point is 01:16:58 They're the criminals, homie on God in heaven They sit there and perjure themselves on camera Karma is a motherfucker. On record. Yeah. And still get away with it.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Like, literally, you could point it out. You can have all the perfect answers and follow the motions and they still are denied you. They're worried about going to lunch. Won't allow you to bring into evidence, your exculpatory evidence. Like, they can really, you know what I'm saying? Exonerate you, my nigga, and they really box you out. And by the time they look at the case, prison policies catch up to the homie and the
Starting point is 01:17:28 homie and the homie went on a holly. You had a go. You're not, you know, they look at the paperwork. They look at the paperwork. Who got the most time? Him, okay? Stab him. No?
Starting point is 01:17:38 He ain't going to say no. Because then they get with his program, but it's just fucked up. And by that time, you start getting rid-ups. And to get out of prison from doing a lot of time, you've got to be squeaky clean. And then it seems like the prison itself is going to keep you there all moment.
Starting point is 01:17:51 It's impossible. It's the craziest thing because it is a private business. And it's like the numbers of like inmates, people incarcerated and since it became a private business and not a government business. like obviously now it's a private that's subsidized by the government those numbers have skyrocketed it like it's like a it's like a curve is like this
Starting point is 01:18:09 it's fucking insane it's a fucking money it's a police team on the game free all the homies you're free to solid man it's fucked up man do you think it'll ever change nah not until niggas you know stand up you know you got a full strike they got a work strike niggas is making the prison
Starting point is 01:18:28 go right to doing all the police jobs you know what I'm saying motherfuckers is cooking, motherfuckers is working, doing all this shit for the police. You know how much it costs for kids to soups in the county for 24 soups? No idea. Yes. For 24 soups? 24 little 25 cents shoes.
Starting point is 01:18:43 For how much it costs for a 25 cent? It's not, I'm assuming it's not 25 based on your question. Take a guess. 24 suits. $4. $32 to $36. So who does that money go to? Heif.
Starting point is 01:18:55 I don't fucking know through that, but we went on straight for that old. You just named the guy who went to. That's hilarious. That's a company that shows you. It's a private-owned company. So it's a private-owned company that... $32, $36 for $0.10 for $0.10. It costs $0.10 on the street.
Starting point is 01:19:09 It costs $0.00 on the street. The little ones that are in-the-dollar in- So the same company is selling that same thing to an inmate. That is fucking crazy, bro. The racial that's amazing. Like, he's like, fuck, these people are cashing out. And everybody gets a case. And so you better believe the prison owner's probably getting a kickback.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Of that 30, whatever. Bro, what the fuck? How is this not like It's extortion at his best No one just gives a fuck We went on strike The homies went on strike None of the Mexicans
Starting point is 01:19:38 Were allowed to go to store With through that company We all went hungry You know what I'm saying That strikes won't work Unless everybody do it You know what I'm saying But they got the weak
Starting point is 01:19:46 It didn't work For them you know what I'm like That shit don't work And everybody got to do it Mexican's black and whites Yeah You know what I'm saying You got to be
Starting point is 01:19:55 That is so fucking crazy to me though So there's not like There's not free food I mean obviously it must be free food. I mean, they're free with it's trash and his little portions, you know what I'm saying? They only give you really breakfast and dinner,
Starting point is 01:20:07 hot meals, and that shit be garbage. So they're expecting money from outside. They're just two pieces of bread and one thin slice of an apple. Yeah, lunch is a fucking bologna sandwich. So they're like basically starving and expected to get money from the outside. If you don't got money on your bush,
Starting point is 01:20:19 you're going to be hungry as a motherfucker. And the only way to put money on the books is for your people to come and actually drop it off in the county. Not necessarily all the time. Can they come and drop it off in the county? They don't got the ride on this. In the prison, they're taking the,
Starting point is 01:20:30 over half. Yeah, and in prison, they take 50% over half, 55%. Oh, God. Wait, so the money that they bring, they take 55% no, no, no, and what you get a prison? It's 55% restitution. So if my mom puts $100
Starting point is 01:20:42 on my books, I'm only going to get $45. And then you have to spend that money on that $30 thing. That is, yo, that's crazy or shit. I had no idea this was even, this is real. That's a whole other thing where they make money right there is the store situation. Honestly, you pay a restitution
Starting point is 01:20:57 off, which is expensive as fuck. this is insane how the fuck is it still a thing it's fucked up to me three separate restitution a million dollar one and three five thousand dollar restitutions you know what I'm saying a direct payment and all that shit
Starting point is 01:21:11 so I sent a hundred dollars I only get $30 a nigga off a hundred The only way to pay that is you give a million dollars to his part is the restitution and then so you put a million dollars in you get $500,000 in there no if you put a million dollars he's good I'm only going to get like three
Starting point is 01:21:24 who the fuck over the million dollars though huh they take over to the to the victim So off every hundred, they only get $30. Oh my God, it's fucked up, bro. That's worse in taxes. It's happening right now. They're pimping. Whoa, man.
Starting point is 01:21:37 And sometimes your parents are, like, the price is so high. It's like, you ain't getting shit. My mom's not going to go and put money under the homies' name because my mom thinks it's for drugs or she thinks I owe money. Like, fuck that. I don't even put money under your name and that's it. I'm like, mom, I'm only getting $35, 45. But if you put 50, my mom only getting $15. That's not even.
Starting point is 01:21:56 So what would it be different to put it in someone else's name? The same thing. Some people don't have a restitution. No, the homie might have paid it all off. So it goes under his name, but now I've got to deal with him sneaking it to myself, dropping it, the cops taking it without the receipt. Oh, wait, so this is restitution of money that's owed for some sort of crime or some shit. Or just court fees, court fees, court fees.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Oh, okay. Even going to court and the crime. Either way, that is a fucking crazy thing. Yeah, they get their money like that. What the fuck, man. So if I go to court three, four times, I got to pay for the bus trip, for the lawyer's time, all that shit. Yeah, yeah. I'm paying court fees $300.
Starting point is 01:22:28 each time. Yeah. So it just starts adding a $300, $300, $300, $300. Damn, what a crazy business, man. That's the craziest business ever. I should buy a prison, huh? The fuck.
Starting point is 01:22:38 You could? What the fuck? Dude, that's what they did. They bought California City was a million-dollar-owned prison. But the real question is, how do you change it? It sounds like it's sold. There's too much money, too much power.
Starting point is 01:22:49 They just got to change it on the inside, my nigga. That's the only. They got to shut it down. My fucks got to stop being comfortable. You know what I'm saying? They're going to work. They're winning, sick with it. going to work and working and
Starting point is 01:22:59 shit, they just, motherfuckers just want to get out their cell. You know what I'm saying? Police are kind of my cell like, hey, we want you to work with a little man, fuck you. I'm not working for seven cent an hour full, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:23:10 Yeah. On God in heaven, I'm not doing it. You know what I'm saying? But the nigga next door, like, hey, hey, hey, man, I work with me. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, get this motherfucker holly and they let him work for them.
Starting point is 01:23:20 They need somebody do their job for them. Police, they're doing the police job. The correction officers. Yeah, they're doing the crossers. After they spit all this sheets on the floor. Somebody come and sweep the floor up Bro, I couldn't, dude. They cookin, they're doing all of
Starting point is 01:23:32 the plumbing, the maintenance, everything. Being a bitch, being like the bitch, yeah. It's like, but then at the same time, you've got vital positions like that. We need the homies out there, so it's like they're winning either way. It's the only way we're going to get the fuck out and pass shit around almost ourselves.
Starting point is 01:23:49 You know what I'm saying? It's fucked up in there all the way around. Yeah, it's a crazy world, man. You got to be in there to see it, man. For the squeeze team, man, that's shit. Congrats for being. out, though. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Life is good. We free, my nigga. Yeah, let's go. I love this. Yeah. We're free, honey. We're out here, my name. Bro, thank you guys.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Make the change. Yeah, thank you guys so much for coming, man. Appreciate you. So you said you got a couple more days until you got to pay back. He won't get it, man. He won't get it, he won't get it.
Starting point is 01:24:18 So what do you want to tell the audience? Like, where can they find you or they listen to music, all that? Man, big hit, man. On Instagram, you know what I'm saying? Big hit on YouTube, my nigga. You type it.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Big hit, no big, you know what I'm saying, to get the merch and shit. We got the mixtape coming out, man. Lefty gunplay, big hit, man. Yeah, look off the lefty gun playing big hit, my nigga, you know what I'm saying? Exfoam, my nigga, my name is a little shit. We're on the trust. Everybody, everybody. We're going to link in with, tap in with everybody, my nigga who I fuck with.
Starting point is 01:24:44 That's the real one. I saw the hood. This shit bangs. If I'm lying, I'm dying, dog. I don't get a fuck. It's shit bang this shit. I got this shit on repeat, man. I'm going to show you right now.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Yeah, well, listen to it right now. Yeah. Thank you, man. I appreciate you. Yep. Thank you, too, man. Like one. Thank you for us.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Yeah. You want to run the raw talk? Yeah, right. Yeah. You've been in the Smackdown? Uh, wrestling? Yeah, yeah, of course. Right here?
Starting point is 01:25:12 I love that shit. Here. Are you being? Yeah. You should do it. You learn the fucking restroom, fool? I should do it. Three, two.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Two. One three or what? 131? Yeah. That's it. Okay. Okay. I'm going to show you to this, Bradie.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Come on. Oh, this is my shit. I'm skinning this shit. This is trying to. I'll get the rest of mine too. They can't. You look like the shark right there. Are there anything right there?
Starting point is 01:25:44 Bradie, you're running. Yeah, yeah. Here this shit. Here, I'm going to show me this one. Oh, man. Oh, my shit.

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