RAWTALK - Bradley Martyn Confronting Greg Doucette, Explains His Beef w/ Tren Twins, & Years of Gear Use

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

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oh god I chat's always like do introduce your guest and I'm like fuck I just feel like so weird introducing people do you ever feel that way I just usually like as soon as the camera's rolling I like turn on a notch like up the it's rolling bit and then I'll just like it's how it's rolling right now

Okay, so we're already, we already started. We're live, yeah. This is not running. Yeah. But you got to put that a little closer to you, I think, yeah. All right, so, okay. So you haven't done like five, maybe five podcasts, not many. What's the best one you've ever been on?

Rob Moore, like a couple weeks ago. That was like three hours. Holy shit. It was awesome. I feel like that makes sense for you. I feel like you could talk. Yeah, you get me on a topic that I have some passion about. I can go all day.

What are you most passionate about? Right now, I would say like relationships and dating more than, everyone get pissed off because I'll write on my Instagram, I'll talk about like, I don't know how to get a girl or not get a girl or what would you do? And they're like, what is this to do with fitness? I'm like, why do you think you're working out? Yeah, to get a girl, like really. And it's also

like, I know I've definitely been in this space for so long. It's like how, you know, you can only talk about so much fitness shit. Yeah. Like really, really. It's like you can only do it for so long. Not that it's never like not applicable to the new person who's coming in, but it's just like,

man, I've been doing it for so many years now. I feel like you're saying. When did you even start? On YouTube? Yeah. Nine years ago. Yeah. And on Instagram, 13, 14 years ago.

Yeah, it's been a long. It's a long road. Yeah. I mean, I've probably done more videos on my channel than I would say anyone. I think I've got 3,400 videos. Yeah. Like, am I going to talk about the same thing over and over again? Yeah.

So why dating? Why, like, relationship stuff? Because I was in a relationship for like 11 years. And so my whole journey on YouTube, I had a girlfriend the whole time. And then all of a sudden, I'm single. And I'm like, am I doing something wrong? Is it her? Is it me?

What can I figure out? And then how can I help other guys? Because it seems like getting a girl and knowing what to do is like people have no clue what to do anymore. So I just thought that was interesting. It's weird, though, because I think it's because the internet. I think the internet has made things so much more difficult for people. Yeah. Well, it's made relationships a lot harder to stay together because you just go in your DMs and there's someone there in one minute, especially if you're a woman.

Yeah. It's not the same for guys, though. I don't, I don't know. Oh, it's, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, right. So, so, so, before you got, obviously, well, I want to talk about this more, but I want to talk about how you got started in, in, in, in working out in fitness first. How I started working out. Yeah, like, way, way, way. Was it because you were short and you're like, fuck, I got to be jacked? Honestly, I was, I was, I was shorter, but I went through puberty first in my class. So I'm, so I'm, so I'm, so I'm, so I'm, I'm, I maxed out my height as, as a 13 year old. So you were like, fuck all these other kids. So I was like a big third. I was a big grade seven and eight kid. Like I was the guy getting all the rebounds in basketball.

So I got to feel big for, for about six months. I was that big kid in class. Short lived. Yeah. That's funny. That's cool. So,

so you got into working out then? I was 10 years old when I started lifting and I was strong right from the, right from the get go. Like I remember my friends in school like grade two being like flex your arm and I do like they'll buy a while like look at that. So I remember he's, As I was like a kid, I always had muscle and I was always really strong. So, you know, as you get older, my dad bought a set of weight, started lifting with him.

I have a twin brother, me and my twin and my dad, we lifted weights together as a 10-year-old. Yeah. And my dad ended up hurting his arm. So he's like, okay, we're not going to train now. And I'd sneak in the basement because I'd get home from school before they did. And I'd go work out and seek. What kept you into it? Like, what kept you into it for so long?

I think the fact that I was so good at it, it made me want to just keep doing it. Like, you know when you're good at something? I don't care if it's chest, check. math, English. When you're good at something, you just keep doing it because that dopamine people bragging me up saying, look how many pushups you can do. Look at your arms. You know what it means? So just being good at something, you wanted to keep doing it just to get more of that praise. Yeah. And you did, you did bodybuilding, you did powerlifting stuff. You've done it like everything. I wanted to be in the Tour de France for bike racing, but I sucked at it.

I was trying. I was riding bikes. I was on the swim team and I was on the cycling team. So I'm swimming, bike, and run. I'm doing 20 hours plus cardio. a week. At the same time, I'm lifting weights and I'm doing everything. And I wanted to be like the bike. That was my thing. But I trained as much as I could and I wasn't getting as fast as some of the other guys. And I'm like, well, this sucks. But when I went into a bench press contest, I'm beating everybody. The men, I'm setting records. And I'm like, well, this is fun. So obviously being good at it, you just keep doing it and keep doing it. And that's why I kept going. How old are you? 48. Yeah, because working out, even when I, I remember when I first started

working out it was just still kind of like i'm 34 yeah it was so kind of like not not as popular as it today it's like tremendously popular today it's like the thing that people like i swear they're like i'm 17 i'm now a fitness influencer because i could take pictures of myself yeah and uh but working out was so different like for you it had to be even more like that why is this guy doing this all the time like just working out did you ever get to that phase when like because like obviously for sports everyone understood that but i remember when i was younger so So like 17, 18, and people be like, why the fuck are you do, like, are you playing football? Like, are you doing?

And I was like, I just love working out. Yeah. It was weird. Well, as a teenager, I would, no one was bodybuilding. So that wasn't really a thing. And you couldn't look on the internet. There was no even, there wasn't internet. Like literally, I was like, I had like, Greg Doucette at hotmail.com's my email address.

It was so early on that there were no email addresses. So when I was growing up, there wasn't the internet. There wasn't Facebook. There wasn't Instagram. So I was like, I was just strong. And then I saw a poster and it was like this picture of this kid and I was like, I could beat him in a bodybuilding show. He doesn't look that good. And they're like, oh, he's the champion of the province. I'm like, all right, well, I'm going to enter a show. I didn't even know what a show was. I'm borrowing like a guy's trunks and like, I don't know what I'm doing. And they're like, you have to diet. I'm like, really? And you have to imagine. I didn't know anything about nutrition. So I do my first diet and I'm eating plain pasta. I don't need, I don't know that there's a thing as protein. I don't know this. I'm like, I'm a cyclist. Remember trying to do trap. I'm trying to be this Tour de France rider. So I ate a lot of pasta, a lot of meat.

And I'm like, I'll just cut out all the meat. And I'll just eat plain past that I'll be shredded. So I had no idea what us doing. None. Me too. When I first started, I remember, like, I remember at one point I was so serious about, like, the training part of it and so not understanding of the nutrition side of it that I, like, gave myself, like, ED and all this crazy shit at very young age.

18. Remember my dick did not work because I was so psychotic about training and I ate anything. I'd be like, I got to go do, I had this. It was fucked up. It was like a real disorder. Oh, absolutely. My first, uh, my first diet for a bodybuilding show, I dieted. I was probably, I think it was like 167 and, uh, I competed in like 142.

And I was doing the show and a month out there like, you have to qualify for this show. And I'm like, what do you mean qualify? And it was like, this is the provincials. You have to do the novice quality. I'm like, oh. So I just dieted for nothing. So I'm like, oh, I'll just keep dieting. So I'm dieting for another five months till this next show.

And I'm like, well, I just keep my weight at the. this point. I would go to gym class. I would go to school. I had no energy. I was sleeping on the floor. I was the guy that, well, I think I was doing 20 hours cardio a week. I was like tapping out. I was like, I can't play sports. I was just laying with no energy felt like shit because I had single digit body fat, no energy, no nothing, no libido, no, just life sucked. And so that was my introduction to bodybuilding. But then I entered a show and I win. Wow, you look great. And then I'm like, when's the next show? The next show. And then so I ended up doing 42 of these shows drug-free before going on gear as I got older. You did 42 shows. Natural. I've done 59 in total.

So I did, I trained for like 20 plus years natural before I got into using gear. And I just the when everyone says you're so good at something. Like I entered a show and I'm like, think of the suffering. I'm like on the swim practice. I go to swim practice the morning, fly out to the nationals that day and compete at the national bodybuilding championships from having swum at swim practice. I don't know how you held on. I don't know how you held on so much muscle while doing so much cardio. Well, I didn't. I didn't have a muscle. Like, I was winning shows that you had enough to win. My first national championship, I weighed 149 and one, 149 pounds. Now you look at a guy men's physique and I wouldn't even place in that. But this is also Canada, too. So like smaller

and weaker. Well, there's a smaller fan base, I'm sure. I'm just talking about it. So when you found gear, how did that change? Does everything change? Well, see, this is what was fascinating for me. I was so against using steroids my whole life. I was like, I'm not going to do this. You know, I not doing drugs, not doing anything. And then I was improving, though. So I was like, why do I need it? Why would you need steroids when you're winning every show you enter?

I basically won everything. I was winning even overall. 150 pounds, you ate 200? I don't care. I'm going to beat you. So my ad really good genetics. But eventually, your gains start tapering off. So once I got around 30-ish, I wasn't really gaining any more size,

and I wanted to get a pro card. And so then I got on gear. I put on like, I don't know, 15 pounds that year and started competing in what a difference that made. Yeah. Then it was fun again because the fun for me was getting better. I didn't care about really winning. Winning was like a bonus, but improving and getting better at something, that's really

what was fun for me. When did you start to try the power lifting stuff? Was it throughout your whole career? I was super strong as a kid. Like when I was 13, Wayne, I was like 120-something pounds, I was benching over two plates. And so I was a strong little kid. And then I, there was a local powerlifting. contest at a bar and I just entered as a 16 year old and I was winning against the men but wasn't

official or sanction and I'm like what's the world record for the bench press and they're like oh it's like whatever it was three something I'm like I can do that they're like what are you what are you talking about and I'm like well watch this so I'm entering my first contest and I'm breaking the world record um for juniors so I just was good at it it was fun so I was powerlifting officially at 22, but I was entering unsanctioned, like gym bench press events. And just, I was really good at bench press. What led you to the internet? Oh, when did they discover that my parents got a computer at the house? But they were like, type in, do you know what raw bench press is versus equipped? Oh, yeah, of course. So they look up raw bench. And I'm like, what's raw bench?

And they're like, are you lifting with a shirt or not? And I'm like, oh, I don't think a shirt helps me lift any because so I'd ripped the shirt off in my basement and started bench pressing because I thought no shirt meant t-shirtless I'm not making this shit up so they're like the raw record with a shirt is this and without is that so I enter my first meet and they're like are you losing a shirt and I'm like no I'll get no shirt you take your shirt off yeah I don't know what's going on like I'm going to lift with no shirt they're like you have to put on a singlet like this suit I don't know I don't know any rules and I just show up and I'm like well so I lift the world record in the bench press, but it doesn't count

officially because I did it in a meet where you're allowed to wear the shirt. So I had an unofficial world bench press record, but I broke I was like a junior and I broke the senior national record and all the stuff. So yeah, it just was really good at the bench press. Just naturally good at it. Just naturally was good, yeah. And then you found the internet

how, like the internet, you were like, because you started filming YouTube content, how long ago you said? 2006. Holy shit. Like, I remember it being in school and I suck with technology really bad. How old were you, 2006? 31. Yeah.

Older, older for a beginner influencer. Yeah. And I'm not doing it to influence. Like, I didn't know what a sub was. I was just doing it to show off. I'm like,

look how, I'm just trying to brag. I'm like, guys, look at my bench press. Like, I'm not going to bullshit. I can bench press

more than all you guys. I'd fill myself in the bench. I'd have my little camera thing, press start, and I'd upload it. I'm like, there it is. There's proof.

Because it's be like, you can't bench press that. That's how you started your channel. That's how I started my channel. How did you decide to go towards, like, the sort of commentary content? Well, like, I think around 2011 or so, like, I did that for whatever years. And, like, in 2011, I'm like, I need to coach more people because I was quite a good coach in the area, like probably the number one coach in my little halifax town.

But how are you going to coach it? It sounds you were just naturally good. You were like, be naturally good. Well, I had a lot of good genetics, but obviously I studied. I had my master's, I mean, I studied in school. So I was quite good with that. But I was a bodybuilder, a natural bodybuilder in coaching, which is, kind of funny because as soon as I got on gear, my coaching business tripled. Because it was like,

wow, you're good. I'm like, well, I was all, I knew the same stuff. I just wasn't as big because I was turned natural. Yeah. So once I got on gear and they're like, holy shit, then everyone started to hire me. But they weren't hiring me to learn how to eat. They want to know how to use gear. Yeah. That's the bodybuilding world. Like when you're coaching, they're hiring you not for really, how many reps do you do on the bench press? It's like, what do you take? Because once I, once I got into that, people are like, okay, you're actually really quite good. Why do you think so many people choose to lie about that? To lie about using gear?

Yeah, I mean, I kind of have an answer. I want your answer. But like, it's such a popular thing now where like especially even, you know, the Michael Earnshed, the guy, it's like, okay, buddy. And then, you know, now there's new age kids who come up and they're like, I don't take gear. And then there's kids who also just talk about gear all the time. It's an interesting space for sure.

But why do you think people like, especially nowadays knowing that no one really cares as much like is in the sense of like I don't know people feel so judged they're oh I don't want to say it or they're trying to hide it so they like I don't know if they appear better than other people but there's still a bunch of guys who like pretend that they're fucking natural and you were always a guy who was like fake natties by this

and I know you've done a few videos about me by the way I'm not a fake nattie would have said I don't take steroids and I've never said that so it's just a funny thing though I see a lot of kids who literally say that like don't take steroids and it's like bro what what are you doing? Well the reason why people do it I think is because

As soon as you admit to that, people just then take all the credit away from you. Like, when I was natural for my whole life, it was like, oh, that's impressive. Then as soon as you're like, you took gear, then it's like, okay, all those shows you did when you're natural, you lied. And you only look like that because you're on gear. And they don't realize that actually still have to work hard. So I think that people saying that, you know, I'm natural. It's just so that they can get more compliments from people and people won't take away

their, like, their good feelings of their self-worth. Like, it's as simple as that. that. Yeah. But it's so, it's such a weird thing because, I mean, you even said you got more business when you were on and people knew you were on. Like, I got so many, like, I would, I would literally be selling Anavar because I used to sell steroids. There'd be three girls talking to me, all three I'd sold Anabar to, all three telling each other, they're all natural. And I'd be sitting there and I'm like, well, I'm not going to tell anyone anything. And I'm like, wouldn't it be great if I just said, you three are all on the same stuff, go to it. Because this is like,

but people lied because as soon as you admit. that, then it's like, oh, I'm only good because of this. So all these bikini girls that look really pretty and they're nice and it's like, you guys are not natural. Of course, there's like some like one percent, whatever small percentage that are. But I'm like almost everyone that looks really good is on something. Why are people so obsessed with it though, being natural? Because I just remember for some time you kept making videos like Natty or not, blah, blah.

And it's like, because that did really well for you for a while. Like, why are people so obsessed with that concept? I wonder why people like that. I don't really get the intrigue of it because I still do Natty or Notts now. They're not as popular as they were. But I mean, I think that people just want to know

that their favorite guy is only that way because they took something because it makes them feel something better about themselves. That's what it is. It's like, if I took gear, I'd look like you too and it's like, you wouldn't. But it does make you feel better. Yeah, that's the biggest misconception is like,

it's just that easy. And it's like, dude, it's not. The sad thing, being somebody that used to, sell it was the majority of people that bought it didn't look like they worked out. I'm like, you guys, if you only knew, because it's like the husbands and the wives and they're keeping it secret from their partners and they're not natural. And it's like, well, why would they take steroids if they look like that? I'm like, because imagine if they didn't. Yeah. Like you're a two out of ten body. Now you're a five on 10. That's a lot better than being a two.

So you just want to look okay. Yeah. So, but they look at a guy like me or you and they're like, oh, you guys are on gear. And it'd be like, well, that guy over there that's training his ass off at the belly he's on gear and a lot of it and you wouldn't think yeah i guess yeah it's people are just obsessed with the vanity in it all oh yeah people train for anyone that says they're training the gym for their health i'm like eh i don't believe you i would nine out of ten times say it's for your appearance yeah for me for me health is like swimming biking running yeah it's like yeah like when i was a young kid and i was doing triathlons and stuff that's for health reasons but like as soon as you're running gear as soon as you're on trend is it health

the trend is the trend is the craziest thing that people talk about man yeah i've done a lot of trend you have oh yeah geez i must have done it for probably eight years on and off every cycle yeah really any cycle for a show absolutely i was so afraid of trend trend cough i mean i was just i've had it all i i've talked about this i don't think you i think you might have commented on this i don't know but i've talked about it uh i talked about with tifa i did an interview i did it for like a week and I was like, this is too much. I was never, I was never a trend guy.

Was it Trent Ace or an Aene thing? Yeah, acetate, you have to shoot it so often. I did it for a week and I was like, it's not even annoying. I was just like, just felt like too much. Did you feel like you were anxious the entire day? Almost like you were uncomfortable, like almost like you just didn't feel comfortable in your own skin. Yeah, I felt terrible. Like, so you're on if like if I just did a test base, like I'm doing like 700 milligrams

of tests and that's it. I feel fantastic. I feel like Superman. Then I'm adding in trend. Now I'm, okay, now I have anxiety. Now I can't sleep. Like I literally have trend somnia. And I just felt uneasy.

Like there was something wrong in my heart. Like just like an anxious anxiety. And I hated it. And I would do as much trend as I could possibly handle. And then I would lower the dose. So I got up to 700 milligrams of trend a week. And I was like, okay, one weekend, I'm like, this is not happening. Like you're, I would just, no.

So I lowered it to 500. I'm like, I think I can do this. I'm like praying to, okay, six more weeks of the cycle's over and then I can stop. Like normally you do a cycle, you feel good. I'm like, oh, yeah, this is great. Like, I'm on gear. I have strength with Tran and, like, really high doses, because I just basically push as much as I could

because I'm trying to turn pro. I'm trying to be the best I can be. And it felt like shit. It felt like garbage. You never were afraid of doing that kind of shit for that. That's a long time. I would say because I had, there's genetics for being able to use gear as well.

100%. Now, when I would go to the doctor and I'd get my blood work done, it wouldn't be bad. And so I'd be like, well, probably all those years are doing triathons and running and being healthy either. I kind of felt like maybe that's allowing me to do it,

but you don't really know the damage that's actually doing. So I wasn't scared. I could never say I was actually scared at the time. But things like growth hormone and insulin, I wasn't really into that kind of stuff. I did growth hormone a little bit, but insulin might have tried it 10 times when I just hated the feeling.

So I didn't bother with it. I was afraid of that too, never did it. Like I know some people that got into the ambulance taken by ambulance from the gym, doing too much insulin and you get cold sweats and feel like shit. And I'm like, no, this is not for me. So what did you feel like best on most consistently? just a test and well if I had to say what's my favorite steroids would like annavar would

just give me the best like just go to the gym and just get a pump and just like I love it so like looking back if I could just like I'm on HRT I do 140 milligrams and people think I'm lying I'm like do I sound like a guy that lies about what I'm doing no like I would love to just do some var right now but it's been four years I haven't done a cycle and I'm and every day it's tempting because I know how it would feel and I remember how he used to look yeah but I'm like I just can't because once I get on it then if I stop you're going to notice like if I'm to start making videos and all of a sudden I'm all Mr. Jack guy again and then I stop you're going to be like okay you're cycling on and off I think you can tell you know so I care about my

health and I did all those things in the past and I use gear with high doses for 10 years and my health is I just think I got lucky I'm hoping I think it's a genetic thing I think some people are just built different to be able to withstand that sort of like damage yeah I'll see too like I coached a thousand people using gear and I mean I'll see their blood work I'm like, geez, I could use 10 times that and not have your blood work. I'm like, you just need to not do it. Like, some people are just really not prone to getting that. Yeah. So what's your beef with the trend twins? Man, I don't have real actual beef with anyone. Like, really? Like, I don't care. Like, okay, so the trend twins are these guys. They remind me and me when I'm their age,

like, except for the factor on gear, but I'm like, I was not, like, but they're power lifters and body billers. And they're exceptionally strong. And they could be extremely good power lifters. And I think world record holders in powerlifting. So I'm coaching them, you know, for free. I'm coaching them. And I'm preparing them for a show. You were their coach. I was their coach for whatever months. And I'm like, getting the updates every week. And I'm like, you guys are not lean enough. Well, we want our pro cards by this year. I'm like, I don't think you understand how hard it is to diet to like 5% body fat. Like, I don't think you can get that lean. I'm like, here's a picture of me. I'm a 48 year old man on HRT. This is how you should look eight weeks out.

well oh my god you're so lean i'm like it's gonna you're gonna have to be way leaner than this so they weren't really keeping up and they were you know wanting cheats and stuff and so ended up they didn't do the show they backed out um they ended up getting a different coach or getting gear from someone and it wasn't that's why you're mad that's why you're mad well they one of the videos made it look like i was the one selling them gear that was bad because they they they weren't getting real stuff right and they're not getting really good progress I'm like, how is your testosterone levels lower than mine? Like, this doesn't make sense.

You know, and obviously I'm not going to talk about what they'd done or didn't take, but they weren't going to become successful, and I couldn't help them, and I tried my best. And I have no problem with them, and I hope they do great. But I just find people need to be honest, and the way it ended was just, I think, unfortunate. Like, I think I could have helped them be better power lifters and bodybuilders, but if you don't do what I ask,

are you going to get the results like you have to actually try they didn't buy the cookbook they they didn't buy the cookbook i gave them the cookbook they made recipes dude i swear to god the french toast yo you you're one of the funniest uh social media people to me because like you'll post anything and be like buy my cookbook oh yeah that was like i would just have jokes with my friend like i know i was sometimes go shots randomly in videos but i'd be like say things to be like buy my cookbook no i swear to god it's so funny to me we would laugh about all the time like you post anything i'll say anything why your relationships fail well you didn't buy my cookbook like just throw that in like at any time like if you

would have had the cookbook you definitely wouldn't have got that like it just yeah what love that what's your uh what's your perception though because like there it's it does somewhat bug me because like you know I know I know how the whole content space works so it's like people talk shit this and that it's like drama views what's your perception though because you you do leverage that for monetary benefit you know and I think people have this weird like I don't know, I guess as a viewer, they have this weird outlook on people who make content. I don't, like, they don't read between the lines. Like, they don't see that that's what you're also doing is like marketing something.

You know what I'm saying? People get mad when I'm trying to make money. Like, I'll advertise in every single video as soon as it comes out. Like, if we're talking about getting a woman, I'll be like, hey, now it's hard my harder than last time pills. Take this. Like, it just comes out of nowhere. Like, whatever, you're falling asleep.

And what do you need to try my pre-workout? Every video I'm advertising something. And they're like, oh, all you do is advertise. I'm like, so I employ 14 people, I have a company, and in life, we're supposed to be, you know, train really hard, work really hard, become successful. And as soon as I do that, and I do all the things they're supposed to do, now you hate me for it. For being, for what, being successful, having a good job, making a living and marketing myself, I don't have a hundred athletes pushing my supplements. So another company, they don't say anything. I'm like, I'm me,

if I wasn't for me, my company would die. You know what I mean? I have to sell this. So it's how I make money. Like, I started by pushing my cookbook. No one minded that, except for the price, maybe, but I'm like, guys, I'm going to double the price. What are you talking about? Like, but yeah, so that's a whole different topic. And I'm like, okay, now I sell supplements. This is what I do for a living. Like, what is wrong with that? You know, I see no harm in selling or your supplements or cookbooks. I mean, how is that bad? No, there's nothing bad. I don't think it's bad. I just think it's like there, there's that sometimes when you use other, you use the content to sort of pull down other creators to, like, then sell stuff.

Because I've been in the industry for so long, and I've been in a space where, like, I can't tell you how many lame motherfuckers in this industry, specifically the fitness industry, would tear me down just so they could sell some shit. Yeah. And I can come from that perspective where I'm like, this is fucking lame.

Yeah. So part of me, like, part of me thinks it's lame, but I also understand, like, I understand the space. I mean, I think when I look at your videos, I never saw you, like, What I've seen, I've never seen you really be like, yo, fuck this person, go buy my stuff. You more so, like, would talk about things.

I'll make fun of what they say. Like Eddie Boo, you're familiar with this guy? No. Eddie Boo is 61 years old. He was competed in Mr. Olympia. He's got 3.5 million followers on Instagram now. And he basically says, wake the fuck up. This is shit for anything.

So his last post, it was like last week, he said, everything is sugar. Fruits, rice, bread, everything's sugar. and I'm like it's not like you're wrong he's he's a carnivore eater so he only eats basically meat and vegetables and he says if you if you eat a bunch of eggs you build as much muscle as steroids you don't eat steroids this guy that abused drug for years he's like I switch from all the regular American diet type thing to now I just eat carnivore and look at how much healthier and my enzymes went this way and I'm this way and I'm so much healthier in my blood work

I'm like dude you're on steroids insulin and growth hormone maybe you stop that. You stop that. And now that's what's, but he's making it look like it's the diet. So I'm like seven or eight videos about him and what he's saying. And then I'll say, buy my cookbook. So it's like, am I, I don't, he's making his money. He's got a gimmick. He's got a thing. He's like, wake the fuck up and this is shit. That's his thing. That's what he says. It's funny. But I'm like, the fact that you're saying now, and I don't believe it, I'm going to call you out on it. Yeah. But I don't hate him. Yeah, no, I just hate when you lie about things, you know. So if somebody's going to say something that isn't true,

I'm just going to say, well, based on my experience, this is bullshit. True. Well, what do you think about, do you think I've ever taken trend like consistently? I think you said you just used it for a week. Yeah. But at one point you thought, I think at one point you said I lied about that. About which one? About trend.

I don't remember if you, but if I said you lied, you never took Trent and you just said you took it. No, no, no. You said you, because I think I made a video. I know I made a video talking about I've only taken it for like a week. And I think you might have been like, that's a lie. I could have said that 100% not a lie

you would remember more than me because I'd have done 3,000 videos so yeah I do it because I've never lied about anything I just normally don't talk about shit like otherwise it's like fuck it why talk about it if it's like I understand your point

like the whole guy talking about this is the reason why I mean that's been a thing in the fitness industry forever which is like started with the muscle tech bullshit where it's like 500% gains it's like the guy's just on a ton of steroids the fitness industry is just a weird ass base

because 99% of people don't really know what works and they're just willing to listen to fucking anything. Oh yeah, like Eddie Aboo, he'll say it's not calories in calories out. All you have to do is eat eggs and meat and you lose weight and be healthy.

See, like, cure mental illness from it even said. That's from diet. He's like, if you're depressed, wake the fuck up. It's from what you're eating. You said it. I'm like, dude, that's a bit excessive, you know.

It's weird because like, with certain phrases, like certain senses, there is like a little bit of truth, but it's not a whole truth. That's the thing when it comes to the human body, and I know you know this, is like not, there's not one thing fits all. Like some people might respond really well to a carnival diet. Exactly.

Just won't. Certain 2% of the population, it's probably an amazing diet. Yeah. You know, if I try it, I'll, I don't like it. What do you think is the best overall sort of diet? The one that you can eat it. The one that you enjoy that you can keep in a calorie deficit that gets you where you have to be.

I don't care if it's full of sugar. I don't care if it's full of sugar. I don't care if it's full of fat. But you don't think the sugar is overall bad for your health? No. And so I'll give you the two examples. I'm doing, I burn about 1,000 calories in an hour of bike race. But not if I did a bunch of fucking candy.

That's like not good. Okay, so give me two examples. You got, let's say you're eating 3,000 calories a day, maintain your weight, and then you start doing one hour bike race every day and you burn off 1,000 calories. And then with that, you eat 1,000 calories of licorice. So you're an irregular guy, 3,000 calories. Now you burn off 1,000 calories in a bike race,

and you add a thousand calories of licorice versus the guy that doesn't do the thousand calories of cardio but has no sugar, has the best diet. You who burn off that thousand calories on that licorice diet, way healthier. Way healthier. You don't think that just the other bullshit in the licorice is that is like more detrimental to your health

than if they ate some other form of sugar. The cardio is so much going to outdo the bad diet. It's unbelievable. Like if you're eating in general, you get your basic health needs, like your fruits and your vegetables. You're already getting your basics. And then everything else is shit on top.

of it, you're going to be healthier than the person that doesn't do the cardio. So I'm just like, do the cardio. Like when I have a message, like I'm, I'm a bodybuilder, professional bodybuilder. And somebody says, hey, if you could do cardio weights for the rest of your life, would you pick? I'm saying cardio. And so that's from a guy that loves to lift weights. Because of the health benefits. Because of the health benefits. Absolutely. You don't think there's, there's as many health benefits to doing the cardio. Excuse me to doing the weights. And people, the bodybuilding and the fitness industry want to make it look like weights is more important in cardio. That's just what I want to believe. Yeah, because it's like a lot of people

hate cardio. I hate that sad because I love cardio. Boxing's cardio. Yeah, I love that. It's absolutely cardio. So you found the kind of cardio that you love that you want to get out and this is fun. Yeah. And that's what I want everyone to do. I love biking. I don't like running. But you know, if I love to run, run. If you like to bike, bike, skate, skate, do what. Do you think everyone should be doing cardio. Absolutely. If everyone did cardio and enough of it, there would be no obesity. It'd be none, zero. No one would be obese. Yeah, we got to fix that, bro. Yeah. I got to get my cookbook. Simple.

Why is this, why are people so fat? Because they don't do enough cardio. And they, well, they over, well, there's more than one reason. They don't do enough cardio

and they overeat on highly palable foods. Things are high in calories, sugar and fats combined like hog and does. I mean, you think it's like easy. Because like, have you ever spent time in Europe? No.

Okay. In Europe and like other places in the world, food just, it's not the same. Like it's not the quantity, the amount? Like, do you ever think they're trying to make us,

fat here on purpose? I would say they absolutely are because big pharma is going to make more money from keeping us fat because they need more pills. It's a trillion dollar industry without question. Fat or we are, the more of the money they're going to make. Bro, it's sad. It's horrible. It's sad as fog. I think, I don't know if everyone, I don't know if that ever changes. Like, do people ever really wake up to that kind of stuff? Well, I find it's hard to like actually say anything now because you get canceled. If you say anything against what the, I don't know, what social media wants us to say or the government wants to say. say, like that word that starts with a C and ends with a D and it's a sickness.

And I'm be like, hey, remember that time we have to wear Halloween masks all the time? I don't even dare say the word. Why is that? Well, because when I said it, all of a sudden, your YouTube algorithm is going down. I've done a video against the World Health Organization, the who. I was saying, you know, aspartame ain't all that bad. We put it on the watch list as potentially maybe being carcinogenic when in comparison, alcohol is a class one.

It's proven to be carcinogenic. I'm like, any of you who make fun of me saying I'd drink my. diet pop, because I'm a big fan of Diet Pop, I say anyone can drink Diet Pop. Any of you who have had one drink of alcohol is worse and more risky than what I'm doing. So if you're saying Diet Pop is bad for you, it's horrible, it's not healthy. And I'll say, if you ever drink a beer, that's worse. So I'm promoting Diet Pop and I went against the World Health Organization. And the next day, that video, I had 99,000 views. It got 18 more. You have to like literally type the whole thing. My channels went from 30 million views a month to 10 million. So one video

and just shoot you down, yes. So you go from making millions of dollars to, well, a half to a third of that. Like, it's like, it's bad. So imagine all the content creators. They're scared to talk about any of these topics. I'm like, I can't, I've always said, I'm just going to do the videos I want to do and not do it, not do what I, you know, are you sure you should post that? Let's post it.

I've always been against the grain. Like, a lot of my videos have been very controversial. I'm like, that's why I've gotten to where I am. So I'm not going to change that. But, like, obviously, it's hurting me financially. to be able to make videos that I feel are important. I'm not going to start lying and saying, no, diet pops bad because the who said it is.

It's like I've been promoting it. I'm not going to change. Yeah, it's funny how like that's one of the biggest, like, most blatant sort of disrespectful truce is about alcohol. And just the fact that it's so well promoted. It's so well accepted. It's so well like okayed. And if we're always, you know,

if we talk about the whole, you know, you said the word that starts with it ends with, you know. the pandemic and it's like that was a time where i was just like how do people not recognize that if they really cared about this but they're just they're just they know this alcohol is a thousand million times worse and has affected us for this many it's like but they don't give a fuck and that was i never understood no matter what you felt like whatever line or whatever happened this or that or your family members died from it or whatever it was it was like but if we if we added these numbers up put them next to each other it'd be like the chart would be like

alcohol deaths related like massive COVID what it would be like here and it's just like how the fuck do people not see that and they go well if we're trying to protect people right where this do this why would we not go hey let's have the same sort of energy towards something that is killing far more people yeah imagine you can't go to the gym now you can't go outside you can't do healthy things to prevent this bad thing okay I get that but by preventing us from going to the gym that's not even going to affect us physically but mentally and mental health then we have people who are more suicidal. That's going to put them over the edge.

And so they did not think what we're, the solution to this is actually worse than the problem? Yeah, well, dude, I mean, I told you it. I kept my fucking gym open. Obviously, I've talked about that plenty of times, but I just don't understand how people don't see it, like for the blatant sort of like, kind of disrespect that it is.

Well, I'll say how they do. This is what I believe. I believe that people believe it because we were brainwashed as children to just believe what authorities tell us. So when we're kids, we're told that this, bunny is going to drop us this off and that this fairy is going to give us this money for this tooth and that this is happening on this day

and so it's not really true but we're told this now we go to school and we listen to our teachers they tell us to line up and they tell us to do that and if you're nice and you say the right things you do this, you do this. So as we get older we're like the government would never do this to us they would never say anything. They would never bomb this bridge. They would never

plan this demolition. They would never do anything like that to us. They would never give us a Vax that we don't actually need. They would never promote it if the signs wasn't backed it up. There's no way that doctor would say that. There's no way the who would ever say that Aspartame is here and this isn't there

because they think that everyone's after our best interest when they don't think that people are actually out for their own self-interest in terms of monetary gain. I don't know why they don't think that. Just because somebody's 50 years old or six years old and maybe they went to a special school that they don't have the same intrinsic mindset to try to make money.

Yeah. It's fucked dude. It's fucking insane. It's just weird. So how do you have... People are plugged in. They don't, you know what I mean? by plugged in plugged in like the blue pill red pill from the matrix like people don't want to

be unplugged they want to like ignorance is bliss they just want to go through life no one would do this no it's not weird though because so many people want like also want a better life though then why do they stay quote unquote plugged in like why is it so hard to look outside of that people are fear of change the fear of change is like one of the biggest fears in the world so people will stay for example in a relationship that's a three four or five on a 10 rather than get out of that relationship and go for something better because they're fear to the change, fear of the unknown. I'd rather stay in misery for fear that I'll be in worse misery rather than take a chance

and get something better. It just seems insane to me. It seems insane to me that somebody would stay in a relationship where they're being beaten, abused, cheated on all the time and not go out and just keep doing that. But when you think of the psychology behind it, it's like, it explains why they're doing it. And it's like, okay, I get it now. Because I'm thinking, why are you staying there? but they're like, well, I'm scared of this or that

or they've been beaten down or their self-esteem, their self-worth has diminished so much that they just tolerate it. Have you ever been in a place like that in your life where you've been, you know, sort of tolerant of something that you shouldn't have been? Absolutely, many times. What about in relationship, eyes?

Because it seems like this is, it's your new calling. You're now a dating coach. Man, I've been in so many bad relationships. If I said every story in my relationship, like I'll just name a couple. So, all right, so I'm in one relationship. This girl, she says, when I break up with her she says oh by the way I'm pregnant I'm like really but you didn't you get

the needle and you like didn't aren't you like needle for like you can't get pregnant I'm like what were you doing in Florida drinking and party and you're pregnant she calls up my mom you know how old is it I'm 30 something okay so she's like you know Greg got me pregnant dumped me so my mom's not talking to me and she's making up this lie and then I'm like okay well I don't know what to do so I'm like maybe she is pregnant I don't know what to do. So I move out and then I go to my house to get to my stuff and the door locks are all changed and I'm like, what's going on?

I call a police and apparently she said, oh, he's a, he's attempting to, he's saying he's threatening to kill me and whatnot. So I'm like, okay, so this, yeah, so this woman makes up this story. How long were you with this person? I was a year. I bought a house there of which I put all the money into it. So I've been ripped up by so many people in my life. It's unbelievable.

So I'm in a, I've been a powerlifting meet in PI in a different province. then I come back and I'm getting arrested for robbing the house. I'm like, what do you mean I robbed the house? My house? Yeah, I'm always taking all my stuff. And I'm like, but I was in PI. This is a six hour drive when it happened. And so I can't do anything. And they claim that I'm the one that robbed it. Two months later, they find it in her brother's base in a brother's garage. So this is like one example of what I go through. She made up the whole pregnancy just to fuck me. So this is like a relationship that I'll have. That's just one example of one of many relationships that I've had.

I've had the worst experiences with relationships for probably why I've done so much reading on it since then. In my last relationship, I have an NDA. I'm not even allowed to talk about it. So you can just imagine, like, what is going on right now? You have an NDA from your last girl? Yes. She made you sign a NDA?

No, I made the signing of it happen because I'm like, I'm not, I don't trust anything. I don't trust women anymore in terms of relationships and breakup because they lie to say anything. Yeah, I have no trust in that in that sense. Do you think it's because of the status and what you have to take? I think what I, the amount of money that I have to lose at this point would be more of a big problem. But like my experience with people is like what there's a saying for that.

But it's like hell have no fury like a woman who has been scorned or something like that. I'm your best. I'll never do anything. Oh, when we break up, oh, it'll be like this. And then as soon as the breakup happens, they'll turn on you. Then it's like, no, I'm, I'm going to rip you in through the coals. It's like, it's bad. Dude, people are fucked, dude. Oh, yeah, it's bad.

What about business-wise? Have you ever had any fucked up situations there? I haven't really had business situations. I mean, I mean, I had lent my money. I lent this guy, Francis Landry, it may as well name drop him, you asshole. $23,500 ended up being, like, this is from 2004. and, you know, I'm feeling bad for him, I'm helping. $50,000 compared to my best friend, you know, back.

You know, it's like one of my best friends, living in for years. And so this guy, he leaves his kid and his wife, moves up north, buys like a $50,000 vehicle, doesn't pay me back. I sue him in court, I win, but because he then declares bankruptcy so I don't get any of this money,

then he buys a house like a couple hundred meters from where I grew up with this girl, and it's like in her name, so I can't do anything about it. So this is like the trust level I have of people. Like best friend, I'm very trusting and I'm like, you know, I've, I've lent people so like money my whole life. So I'm this really trusting guy because I'm like, I would give you, like, I just figure other people would act like you. That's the problem. So I'm like, I'm pretty

nice overall guy. So I just like trust people like that. And so I've been burnt so many times. So it's not business, but like I give this guy basically my life savings and he just takes it from me and just fucks off and doesn't pay me back. So do you moving forward, you just like not do shit like because what I've learned is like, all right, if I do it, I'm just doing it. it. And I can't really expect sort of what I necessarily, even though I want it back or I want it to be like sort of reciprocated in certain ways, maybe in other ways or other times. I've just kind of gotten to a point in my life where I'm like, I'm either going to do it or I'm not. Well, I learned to say no. Yeah. So like one of my exes wanted to borrow 100 grand to put a down payment

her house because I'd lend her 18 grand like 20 years back. And I'm like, no, no. Like it's not going to happen anymore. Yeah. So yeah, so you learn a bit. I mean, at the same time, people are like, oh, you deserve that you're an idiot for borrowing somebody. I'm like, I deserve to be robbed for helping a friend with like a loan that I had full expectation he would pay back because he was making double my income. Like, why wouldn't I, you know?

As far as content goes, are you going to keep making sort of commentary content? Are you going to like change it out? Commentary comment, like watching a video and reacting to it? Yeah, yeah. That's like my bread and butter, reactionary content.

So people are like, why don't you bring back the old videos? I'm like watching today and I'm like, okay, I posted his video training, techniques. and the whole thing, and then they're like, yeah, bring it back. Yeah, finally. And I'm like, it's got 9,000 views in four hours. Like, what are you guys even talking about? Like, this is the worst video of the week.

No one's watching it. Why am I going to post videos that you don't want to watch? So they'll say they want this, but then I'll post it and they don't want it. They think they want. So it's just like a girl. Like, you have to, they might say they think they want something. No, they want you to be the leader, the, you know, the alpha, very masculine. If you change for a woman, she's going to.

to dump you for the guy that didn't change. So you have to just, in YouTube videos, make the videos that you want, not listen to any of the bullshit that people are saying, do this, do that, and give them what you think they want, because that's what they're going to want. When did you realize that? Like, is that recent? For video making? Yeah, for video making specifically now.

For video making, from day one, I did the opposite of what I thought I should do. And it always worked. I literally call all my subs morons. I was like, you guys are a bunch of freaking morons. What's wrong with you? A bunch of idiots. You're so stupid. And they were, eat it up the more insulting i was the louder i yelled the more i talk with my parrot from aladdin voice the more i got all in their faces they loved it but it's like why why what the fuck is that

about the psychology it's just because it's different it stands out from everyone else it's just like he doesn't give a shit and people like a leader and when you don't give a shit and you're like just an asshole kind of thing like you just have that persona of like i'm alpha and i don't give a fuck what you think about me people loved that they're drawn to that women are drawn to that. So whether you're a female or whether you're like watching my YouTube videos, you're drawn to somebody that has the confidence to just not give a shit about what anyone else is saying and just do your own thing. Why do you think it's hard for people to get that though, to have that? Why is it hard to do that? Like how we just build that? Because people are

afraid to be of their authentic selves because you're being judged. So for example, when Jeff Nippert makes a video, it's never his own opinion. You know who Jeff Nippert is? He's one of the guys that hates me the most offline. So he hates me, despise me. So he hates me. So when he makes videos, he's very good YouTuber. So I'll give him compliments on what he's good. He's good at making YouTube videos. But he's never his own opinion personally of what he thinks. So he puts out, the research says this, this meta-analysis is that, these research is that,

that guy decided this, that. So if anyone criticizes the message, they're not criticizing him, they're criticizing the message. I will say, I think this. I think that women want this. I believe. And so if I get criticized, it's me. And so that's on me. So that's really being in a vulnerable position.

Now, when I meet a woman, I know, I know game play. I know how to hit on a woman. I know how to say all the right things and I don't do any of it. I don't give a shit. I know I could lie and manipulate and do all these different things and I just choose not to. I just choose to be myself, which a lot of times turns a woman away. Wow. Why are you being so vulnerable?

Why are you being so needy? Well, because I'm interviewing you to find out, do you like this? So I'll find out really early on. Just being who you truly are. Yeah. But most men are scared to be like rejected. from that person because if I like you and I present who I am and you say no then it's you just rejected me but if I put on a front like yeah I'm cool like do they really care well you play you kind of start playing a part that you think that someone's gonna like and then it's like not really genuine who you are and at some point it it breaks apart yeah I am myself like if you meet me on the first day on a date and the 10th date and a year later I'm that same person other people they they might love bomb you they might be for the three months on their best behavior I'm I don't know if I'm good or bad, but I'm the same on date one as a year later.

So I want to get some advice to you then because it sounds like you're like actually pretty passionate about this old dating thing. I love it. So, well, dude, you're probably going to get haters who are like, but you're old and you're not married. Oh, then why am I taking advice from a 50 year old I had in the comment yesterday? Yeah. Like, that's what they're going to say.

Look at this girl right here. It worked for her. Yeah. How old is she? 33. 33 year old eye surgeon making a kind of. I say you make a million dollars a year? Is that bad? Whoa, that's live.

So she's making, they're, what did they say about her? Wait, I say she's like a million dollars a year? They literally are writing on the internet that she's like an escort. She's freaking went to school for 11 years. She's super smart. Well, not too smart to avoid me, but, you know, this is what I do.

So, yeah, so all the rumors is, oh, he pays this girl because she's like, I'm like, you guys have no idea. People say that? Absolutely. It was on Reddit. And her photos there. Look at the she's got a 10. He's good. but how much is he paying or they're like guys so people love being mad they love to hate see they there's there's jealousy and then there's envy jealous is not bad I'm jealous you make more money than me

but if I work hard I can get it envy is when they know that they can't get what you have and so then they hate to bring you down because if I'm here and you're there it's a lot easier to say you're a 48 year old manlet with a shitty voice who abuses steroids and you can't get a girl bring them here rather than I'm going to study hard and go to the gym and I'm going to do this I'm going to study and I'm going to like

imagine what I did my whole life to get to where I am it's a lot easier to just tear me down and to try to lift themselves up but it's weird because it does nothing for the other side it does nothing. It makes them feel better

because they put me down like when you see Tiger Woods miss a put from eight inches away you're like oh he misses it you're like I could have got that shit yeah you feel better about yourself and so that's what people do they want to see successful people go down

I don't know if you remember the rise to fame for yourself but when I was rise, oh my God, I had a cult following. They would have done anything. You're underrated. Oh my God. We love you. It was the best. Then when I got to a million, it's like, you suck, motherfucker. Yeah, fuck you. Like, fuck off. You're short. Fuck your voice. Yeah. Oh, it was, it was downhill and the rise up. It's amazing. So people want to see the rise and they love to see the fall. They love to see the fall. I'm just rise, falling. I'm all in the, it's like the stock market. I'm like, I'm up and down. That's how the internet space is, though. And I think a lot of people

get afraid to enter it because of that because I think people get intimidated by the fact that like I don't know first off it's the fear that they're even going to be able to do something but then there's also like I I've talked to obviously so many creators over the years it's like this sort of roller coaster of up and down of like views no views views no views and that's something you really just have to accept as like sometimes the platform just fucking sucks the algorithm just sucks your content just sucks and it's just about continuing on because everyone always asked like well how do I do it I can't tell you how many times people come to me in person at my gym for years at the gym and in person anywhere and be like yo i want to do this how could i do it because

i've had i've had success like finding other people and like helping people put on and you know get into the space and so i'll have a lot of people come to me asking about that sort of advice and what to do and it's always just like just fucking do it and just keep doing it and it's such a weird thing because it it is really that simple it is really that simple and accept the fact that that everyone's going to either love and hate you yeah people don't want that you just want to you really need a thick skin because people are going to put you down especially on the internet and in real life i mean i think i've had maybe four people in my lifetime come up to me and say something negative like four in my life yeah so when i see comments like oh we don't like you and it's like yeah

but that's this is a fake weird internet like in the real world like every gym i go to it's like i bought your cookbook and i lost a weight and it's like i love your videos like even today at the gym i was like i had maybe seven or eight people come up and say hi and say wow i just wanted to say i i watch your videos through COVID and then help me lose. All I get is positive reinforcement all the time. So for me, I would say I'm 100 times more successful than I dream possible. So if I fall off and no one watches me, I've already done it. Like if I, if no one ever watches a video of myself again, I'd be very proud of what I've done.

I'd be like, wow, I can't believe this. So anyone that's trying to put me down, my bank of compliments is so full that you can shit on me for the next 20 years and I feel good about myself. So I don't, the hate, it doesn't bother me. I lean into it. I'll pin the hate on my wall. Look at this comment. Yeah.

No, I don't, I mean, bro, it's a part of it. If you can succeed at that, you can be good on the internet forever. That's all it is. Because that's the biggest thing that turns people off and makes people like trip the fuck out. Yeah, I can read all the, I can read 100 negative comments in a row and it's not going to ruin my day. It's just, I just keep going. Other people, I never read comments. I can't handle the criticism.

It's funny. It's like just turn it off. Yeah. They don't have. I don't think they have a genuine self-esteem. It's like, all right, guys, quick and watch to the podcast, anyone who's been looking and we're trying to find microdosis, like, you know, not from like crazy places or crazy sources.

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If you guys want to check it out, go to Schedule 35.com, put in code raw talk, get 50% off your entire order. Again, it's Schedule 35.co to get 50% off your entire order. Let's get back in this podcast. People can look confident or be confident or act confident, but are you confident? Confident comes from within and it's not like how you act. It's like, how do you not act? So in your perspective, how do you build confidence? From practice, failure and and then knowing that you can overcome it. So every time I played a sport and lost a game and then came back and practice again and just every time I got rejected from a girl,

every time I failed a test and came back, every time I had something in my life happened and go sideways and then come back. So like when somebody fakes a pregnancy and then says you're a robber and threaten a killer and you know, you go to court and you win the case and then the next girlfriend, you're like, oh. And then you're like, okay, no matter how bad this rejection happens, no matter what relationship I'll be fine I'll find another girl yeah so I have an abundance mindset there's always going to be plenty fish in the sea type thing there's always going to be

something good coming along so I don't think that you know focusing on what bad is happening is is anything that people should do just focus on I this shit thing in my life happened and I overcame it and any other shit that happens in my life I'll also overcome that I think that's what really builds confidence why do you think it's so hard for people to accept that because everyone knows I feel like you could say that a thousand times everyone goes like, yeah, I know, but no one does it. I don't think they do know. Like when I say, when I talk about something,

oh, you're some old guy, you don't know what you're saying. Or like being rejected by women, they'll say, oh, yeah, yeah, maybe I should, but they don't actually try. They don't actually put themselves out there and go up to a girl and say, hi, nice to meet you. I'm a five foot six man that you want to go on a date. They're not going to say it. But if they did, they said, no.

And it's like, is it that bad? Like, that's the worst that's going to happen. They're going to, like, call you a creep, move on. So what? but people are too scared to put themselves out there because I don't think they have the genuine confidence in themselves. I don't know if it's because their parents didn't build them up enough as kids,

but I have enough confidence that I don't care what you're going to do. Like, I'm going to just be myself. Like I love myself. Did you get that built up as a kid, like your family? I think I had good parents. I think they said the right things. So, I mean, for me, I was like always very confident with myself. I remember I was probably in grade 12

when I finally said, you know, I'm going to stop giving a shit what people think because I had to do a presentation. I was like, I wasn't very good at public speaking, whatnot. And I'm like, I'm going to go in this public speaking competition. Like, I was a class clown, a jokester. I wasn't like not a serious student. I'm just a goofball.

And I'm like, I'm trying out for these like lecturing competitions just because I just want to do it. Just to prove that I can. And I'm like, getting nervous. And I'm like, wait a minute. Why am I nervous with this? I'm just going to not give a shit about what they, like, who cares? Like, the worst thing is I get up there and I completely freeze and everyone makes fun of me. And I'm like, so how is that bad?

and then from that moment on anything else in my life it became so much better because I just stopped caring what people said about me so when I made videos on YouTube I'm gonna make this video I'm gonna say a bunch of stupid shit and if you don't like it and you make fun of me and say I can't believe you said that

and be like I don't care and as soon as you stop caring life got better so it applies to everything if you ask a girl out and she says no I don't care if you apply for a job I didn't get the job I don't care if I went into a bike race a running race a competition I don't care

but there has to be aligned to that, I don't care, right? Because like, if you just didn't care about anything, then you also wouldn't be, like, it wouldn't be enough to actually achieve it. Well, I've really passionate about improving myself in everything. Like, whatever I do, like, I'm learning Spanish right now. So I'm averaging an hour and a half to two hours of Spanish a day. And I have a horrible memory. I don't know if you see my videos. Like, I can't remember anyone's names. Horrible memory. So imagine me trying to read like, okay, uh, speak is how blah and bed is this and that. I'm like, this is a lot. But I try really hard.

but if I, in the end, suck at it, and I spend a whole year studying Spanish 10 hours a week, and I didn't learn enough. I'm like, I tried my best. It's okay. It's okay to fail. Yeah. Do you think that, like, I don't know,

do you think there are, I mean, I guess Spanish or learning something new? Like, what are the best ways to learn to be okay with failing? Like, how do you learn how to be okay with it? I think you have to progressive overload, just like with anything like in training, you have to fail at little things. and then come back, little fails and come back. I swear to God, I think the gym has like taught me

everything I know about life. Well, we learn to fail every day. We fail. Every time you fail, that's positive. Like you train a failure. Yeah. But yeah, sports in general, absolutely. I mean, I was a physical education teacher. So I would literally go into the classroom or gym class and and teach people everything. Now, imagine, I'm not a dancer. I'm not a ballet student. I'm teaching dance and ballet to kids. And like, do I look like, I don't know how to do this? I'm like, I don't give a shit. I'm going to go there and read a book and do all the little ballet torres. Wait, she taught ballet. I was a, I taught ballet, uh, yoga. I was a university cheerleader. What the fuck. The girls, I'm going to aerobics class. I don't, I'm trying to everything. I don't give

a shit. I'm the only guy going there. Every girl in there thinks I'm the gay guy. Yeah. Because they're like, well, he's not talking to some kind of shy. I'm just sitting in class. And, and in, and so eventually they're like, oh, you're not gay. And then so I start talking to girls so I can start dating these girls. Then I got recruited to be on the cheerleading team and all the football players all made fun of me. I'm like, while you guys there are slapping each other's asses, I'm going to the cheerleader parties. There's like five guys in a team with 30 hot girls. Who do you think is having more fun? So they're making fun of me because were you actually, were you actually crack in though? Like were you getting it or?

I was having good times. In university apps of freaking lutee. Think of it. Half the, half the cheerleading guys were gay and there's 30 come to the cheerleader party. Uh, yeah. So that's the... I'm like, you football players are making fun. They're making fun of me because I'm the cheerleader doing backflips and lifting to girls and whatever. And I'm like,

I crack the code. What are you guys talking about? Like, think of the... Bro, it's so funny. I'm just on picturing you hit fucking some party, dude. I don't fuck. Oh my God. The games were fun.

Yeah, yeah. I'm just having some memories. Does it... Oh, yeah. Does time ever trip you out? Time. I can't believe I'm, 48. I feel like I'm still 28. I actually feel like I got younger as I got older.

Because you got to think, I'm 22 years old. I'm a school teacher. And so I'm proper and I'm professional. I'm just like, I'm dressed in, you know, I'm going to school. So I've already done my schooling. Now I'm like traveling the world, having fun on YouTube videos and just going out and having good times. And so I feel like I've gotten younger. I feel like I'm kind of It's weird how the internet does that to you when you make content. Yeah. It kind of keeps you, it keeps you younger. I feel way younger. Like think of it. I'm 48. Like, I'm more of a grandpa on the internet. Like, I could have grandkids by now. And I'm competing with guys in their 20s. Like, you almost feel like you probably feel almost old for

YouTube. Like, compared to, like, somebody's like Jesse James and Will Tennis is the guys. And it's like, I'm 14 years older than you. Damn. Like, it's crazy. Like, and I'm like, you guys are putting me down. I'm like, I'm this old. I'm five foot six manlet. I'm not a model. And I'm doing what I'm doing. And, and I mean, how are you going to put me down? Like the fact that I overcame that many obstacles and I was able to do this, I just, I just, that's why they put you down. Yeah, that's what it comes down to.

And probably your voice and the fact you always saw the cookbook. Yeah. They're mad at that. They're mad at that. Man, I saw a lot of cookbooks. It's funny because your voice is like, it's such an interesting, like you,

when you'd hear it, it'd be like, oh, there's another fucking Greg video. But it's like, it also was like, part of your success is pretty funny. Oh yeah, I emptied up. I would read the comments and be like, you're so passionate with passion. And every time I got mad.

When I was young, like when I first started doing these videos, I literally had to get in an anger zone. Like I had to be like, okay, I got to get mad. I got to really hate this guy because I don't really. Yeah. And I'm like, I got to like just feel it. Like I'm going to do this video on this guy and he said this. I'm like, ah, and I'm just like yelling.

And then the comments are like, wow, this is so entertaining. You're so passionate. I'm like, all right, I got to keep that up. And so every video, the more controversy I could get or the more angry I got, the more views I got. And I'm like, I got to keep it going. It's so fuck, though. I wish it wasn't that way.

I wish it wasn't. people were so enamored by fucking negativity and drama yeah like the same video i don't care how positive is i have to put the negative clickbait title in the in the video or people aren't watching it like the same it's the same video but the title is fun that's such a fuck reality it sucks but we have to do it like you have to do it if you don't you're not playing the game and you're just not going to get the views do you think there's a point that you can you can just not do it though not do clickbait yeah if i want to get one third of views absolutely if i just want to like not make as much money yeah but why would I do that you think it'll you think that will ever

shift where like people are looking for more positive shit I think people are always going to look for negative look at the news the news is not oh somebody won something it's this who died it's what hurricane happened how many lives were lost it's never just like wow look at this success story the news is like what people want to see people are more likely to look at the train wreck than like let's literally if there was a car race and are they going to show the winner the car race or let's say there was one crash or a guy broke his leg or whatever. Yeah, they're showing the crash. Oh, this is the crash that happened. But it's like you said it's a conditioning thing. So it's like we've just conditions

ourselves and conditioned society to be so focused on that. Like you, like at some point, like I feel like it has to come back full circle to something else. It's like not as negative. Well, there's some clickbait titles that are, they don't even talk about what's in the clickbait. Like my clickbait titles are actually talking about what's happened. So for example, I'll give you an example. Jeremy Pondie as a four-time Mr. Olympia champion. Yeah, I know Jeremy. So I had a title and it says, Jeremy Biddea has a

mid physique. So he didn't watch the video and he's like, fuck that Greg guy thinks like my physique sucks. So the start of video it says, and so people saying Jeremy Bindia has a mid-level physique. What a bunch of morons. Imagine thinking that Mr. So I defend him the whole video and I'm reading a title of a

comet that was on his wall. And I'm like, mid-phazique, are you guys freaking kidding? Because he was off gear for a while and he showed his off-season. And I'm like, that off season like him in a bad that's most people's dream physique so i defend him the whole time but people are like the title and i'm like it's not my fault you didn't watch the video and if you did or didn't that's because you have more people talking and the more negativity that they have the more people are going to come see me to stay relevant you have to have some controversy if i just had everyone

saying nice things about me they wouldn't even be watching my videos so i need the hate to keep me relevant. So if I don't have anyone hating or shitting on me or putting me down or calling me a manlet or any of this stuff, my videos, they die. I would be done. The hate is what's made me popular. Which is so weird. It makes sense. I know it because I've been there. I've done it, but I just wonder if it ever shifts and it ever is not the highlight to people. I don't, I don't think so. I don't think it'll ever shift. I can't see it being like where everyone just wants nice titles that are just happy. Like, no. People love the controversy. They love it.

Such a weird, but it's weird, though, man. It's a weird thing. I don't know. I just, it's just like, because, you know, anytime you say something, not you specifically, just us, people as humans, anytime we say something like outwardly negative, like I don't think people really recognize

how much it actually does affect us. Like, so if we're constantly looking for negative shit, like what are we really choosing, though? I think that people are in tune to hear that one negative thing. Like, if you say, if somebody gets a thousand compliments in a day and gets one negative. They're going to remember that. This is why when you're dating a woman, for example, men will neg a woman in a club. Wow, that's an amazing hairstyle that I love your hair.

Is that extensions? Or look at your nails. Wow, that's amazing. Are they acrylic? Is it fake? That's a great tent. Is it a spray tan? And so it's like this insight. Wait a minute. Now I have to fight to get you to believe that I'm actually good. You can't just sim and say, wow, I love your hair, love your nails, love your 10. No, you have to give them a half-ass backwards compliments. so they have to fight for you to get that positivity. So people are always going to remember the negative. They'll go home for the bar. Do you remember that guy that said my tan was fake tan?

What is up with that? And so she's thinking of you after this encounter. And she's going to be like, wow, I'm falling for this guy. I want to convince him that he should like me. So you think you got to talk shit to girls to get them to like you? They absolutely will work. 25% of women with an avoidance attachment style or the 25% with an anxious attachment style? 100%.

That 100% is going to work. And if you compare it and you just say, say nice things you're the Mr. Motch like just I don't know that's nice guy nice guys are gonna finish last you really believe that I'm positive it's so humans are fucked

yeah it's twisted but there's the psychology of it like it's like I'm just saying things that people are like I don't want to hear that but it's the reality of it yeah that's what I'm but that's what I'm curious of does that reality ever shift or people are just dead wired to be like that forever well we're hardwired from when we're kids like based on our parents

like the love that they gave us and how they gave us to be either avoid and anxious or secure. And if your parents were very loving and you're secure, you're not really stressed. But if your parents never gave you love or I only gave it intermittently and you had to fight for it, then when you get older, you're going to look for that toxic man. Well,

we had a fight all week, but then we made up and then we had another fight for a week and made up. That's familiar. I remember that. And so that, I'm into that guy. This guy, well,

he's boring. He says he likes me every day. He says nice things. He picks me up from work all the time. He buys me flowers. yeah there's something wrong with him he didn't curse him he didn't cheat on me once i want that guy so if you don't spike their like if you don't trigger their their anxiety or any of that stuff they're like do i really like this guy and that's the hard fact for like half the women out there

you think the same applies for men oh absolutely yeah there's men who are avoidant and they only as soon as they get close to somebody they'll push them away so they'll it's great it could be sounds like me i mean you would know like all you have to do is read the book attached you know exactly it'll change your life that changed my life what's it called attached attached it's probably got 20 million views or views reads purchases but yeah I read that book from my last relationship and I'm reading this thing and I'm like oh my god I can't believe I was in this relationship uh do you know who read that I'll have to check that out it's a great book I read a lot I read a lot now but I haven't read as much because I'm doing a lot

of Spanish but I've read a lot of books recently yeah I wasn't a reader then I got saying and I'm like, why am I single and what happened in that relationship and why did I put up with it? And I'm reading the book and I'm like, oh, that's why. It was just like light bulb after light bulb moment. Every page is like, oh my God, I was just like couldn't believe what was going on. I have to check that out. Who do you think is the corniest fitness person? Corny.

Of all time. Define like corny. Lame. Lame. Because you made a lot of it. Because you make videos about people, about other fitness people. Yeah. So who do you think is the lamest?

I don't really, I wish I could answer that. I would answer it, but like, I don't know what a lame video is like, not a lame video, just like someone who's fucking, you know, someone who's lame, who like, you know, you've seen enough and you're like, man. Like everyone has a reason, like everyone's successful for certain demographic. Like for me, somebody like Noel Dysel, who's very positive and upliftinging, is boring for me. And the reason for that is because I'm at a level that's above that information. And so it has no benefit to me.

but for 5 million, 10 people, he's amazing, he's the best. And then somebody else might be very, very enhanced, like very scientific. Like it's like Mike Isertel, more like, you know, for the beginner, I'd be like, that's way too complicated. I can't understand that. So depending on where you come from, one might be lame or not lame. I don't. Lame isn't a word I use.

I don't know. I can't give it meaning. An annoying. Annoying. Jeff Nippered. annoying his voice and the fact that he just... You're saying his voice is annoying?

Yeah. Damn, that's crazy. Disrespectful. Whoa. It's like, I see how he is on camera and I see how he is behind the scenes and it's a different person.

At least me on camera and behind, like I'm not meaner off camera. If anything, I'm a lot nicer. And so you don't get that vibe. Like somebody meet me and they're like, expect me to be confrontational. But like,

all you did was smile and say nice things. But when somebody else is like mean off camera, like some of the messages that we've had, the choice of words he's used, things he said to my partner, like, it's just, yeah. Yeah. That's fucking funny. But yeah, I would say annoying. Like when you, like, like, some people I feel like are, if you, I don't know, I don't

want to talk to. No, it's fine. But yeah. It's just like, you know, it's a bit much. I get it. Yeah. So do you, what do you, what do you think L.A. compared to Canada or states compared to Canada?

Would you ever live out here? Could you live out here? I could definitely get out of Canada. We have, they tax me 54%. I mean, think of it. It's like all the tax, but we have free health care. How do you think that's being paid for? And then when I go to the doctor, like after four years waiting for shoulder surgery, that's, yeah, yeah, we're not going to do it.

Or they'll do a stool test and I'll get my stool and I'm like, I've been waiting for the result for three months. You know, do I have colon cancer or not? Like, oh, we didn't test you. Why? Well, we didn't think you needed to test. What? Well, I've been waiting for three months. So I don't like the health care system at all.

I'd rather have the states where you just pay if you need it. It's just I have so many bad things that I could say about. Would you live in L.A.? I could see living here. Or where else in the States would you live? I think that anywhere's would be better than more I'm mad. Straight up, Canada is that bad. Okay, so it's cold in the winter and I like warm.

And I travel all winter, so I'm pretty much living away from Canada. And so I have no reason. I could live in Dubai. I haven't even been. I'm going next month. Yeah. I haven't been going to the States for, I don't know, I couldn't go for 11 years because I had a criminal record.

So I only got that recently, like in the last months, where I've been allowed to travel again. What was that for? Was that for the steroid sales and whatnot, which in Canada, steroids is not even illegal. Like, it's allowed to use, but you can't sell them. So I can buy them, but I can't sell them. So who the fuck is selling them?

Who's okay to sell them? Apparently, it was me. Yeah, but who can, if it's illegal to sell, but okay to buy, like who's selling them then? Yeah, it's kind of weird. It's a kind of a strange law. So you can buy it and have it and possess it and have it and use it, but you can't, like, sell it to somebody else.

But how are you getting it if no one's selling it? So it's kind of like, what is that about? Canada's doing a lot of weird stuff lately, man. Yeah, I mean, it's always been like that. But, like, yeah, but I've gotten a lot of trouble. I don't recommend it. But a lot of people are like, you must have ratted out everybody because, like, how did you not get jail time?

Like, because it's class four, it's not a class three. In the States, it's a lot serious, more serious crime. So it's a lot more. minor kind of like marijuana is legal in Canada now yeah but it was a class two drug like five years ago so the laws have changed so much so if you were like into weed five six seven years ago boy that was a big crime now it's like it's legal yeah what are the back to the dating thing a little bit what are what are like the in your perspective from you know the life you live what are the biggest red flags a girl can have um a promiscuous past like how many partners they've been with

that would so you think that matters it absolutely matter wholeheartedly like a lot now I've been very forgiving and I've dated girls with a lot of partners in the past and it's turned out horribly bad because you think that it's not going to have why like I want to think I know it's it happened in the past it's not going to affect them now but it does it's these hardwired things that happen in your head it they don't go away like you can't get over it just like another red flag would be what things are you speaking to what's that what things are you speaking to they hardwired in your head like how a person's treated so let's say you've slept with 500 guys and you're a girl.

That's an insane number, by the way. Yeah. That's great. But I've had... There's no way 500. That's insane. 500's insane. I don't want to say names.

I'm definitely not going to, but there's definitely girls that have had more than 500 partners, and it's a lot. But then you've got to think, why is that? And so if you've had 500 partners as a woman, as a man, it's still bad,

but as a man, just like, it's hard for a man to get late. It's easy for a woman. So basically it's a woman just letting somebody do this to them. And you might say, oh, the equal rights. Yeah, but like women are the gatekeepers for sex and men are the gatekeepers for relationships. And if a woman's going to open her legs to a thousand, five hundred, whatever man, why?

You know, why? You're getting validation for men? And if so, oh, I just was horny. But why were you needing that? And like, what was going on there? Probably had some kind of problems as a child. So whatever happened with their parents It's probably led to this

Or perhaps sexual abuse or something to that extent So you could say, okay, promiscuous past But what led to that? And then it's probably their parents So you can just look back and say The red flag is not having good parents Or having no dad Having no parents missing

Only being a single mother Just ask your child If you're on a date and you say Tell me about how your relationship is With your parents, your mom and dad I love my mom and I love my dad They're great she's probably going to be a catch probably more chances that they are than not if they said yeah my dad was

never there in and out and probably going to have some problems red flag and you can say no it's not fair i'm like hey if i'm playing the odds and i have to bet i'm picking the the girl would have great parents why do you think people pick people with like really blatant red flags because they have avoidance attachment styles themselves so it's great i'm just kind of a surfer level relationship with this woman, just have casual sex. I'm not going to get too close. I'm not going to open up and tell her my deep, dark secrets.

Keep her over here. And this is what I want? Because, well, what happens if I open up and I really love this woman and then she rejects me? I can't handle that. So a lot of people are into these surface level relationships. People who are going out to the clubs

and meeting girls at the bar, like, really meeting the woman in your dreams at 2.30 a.m. on Saturday night? Probably not. So anything that's going on there, I don't think it's ever going to come in, come to anything, you know, positive. Yeah.

I don't know why people ever think that that's a good idea to meet people. Well, you have... So here's the problem. With online dating, it's the top 15% of the men that are getting all the girls. So if you're six foot plus

and you make at least, I don't know, probably more than 100,000 now, probably 250, and you're good looking, you're getting every girl, like all of them. But if you're five foot six like me,

I love the short shameing of yourself. It's hilarious. 85% of women are dating a guy five foot six on the internet right away. They don't care. Like, you're done. Like, they're, they've already blocked you off.

Like, I'm looking for a man this tall to this tall. Like, I've got some videos coming out on this topic where they actually have people pretend they're somebody else. So answer this question is the TikTok question. Who, who has it harder? Fat girls are ugly men? Ugly men have no chance. Fat girls, easy.

Literally easy for a fat girl on the internet. Really? Yes. So women are going to date equal or up. Okay. Men are dating basically equal or down. and on the internet, if you're,

this is fresh in my head because I just did a video of this, there was a guy and he said, I'm going to see how easy it is. An average guy, you know, like a seven out of ten, not bad,

decent looking guy, pretends he's a horribly disgusting, ugly woman. So she's 300 pounds and gross. Pretends he's her and has a list of men lining up going to even pay her to date. But like a what?

An ugly, like a one out of ten apps, Tinder, hinge, bone. Yeah, and if you're a game at, so wait,

you just download her some, girls pictures and was like this is a fat bitch and his foot it there yeah it's got like whatever a million that video come out probably in a whatever couple weeks but yeah so an ugly woman 300 pounds disgusting and oh and that she had three kids and literally in the profile says i'm looking for daddy take care of me my kids and it was like guys lining up to get with her bro what the fuck it's easy so for an ugly man zero chance wait so who did this video you didn't do this video someone somebody else did a video and i did a video about it because i like the relationship stuff from talking about it.

So you think that's just, you think that she was made up, which is true. It's 100% true. Like, I've done, I've gone through multiple videos on this exact topic. I made videos on dating on the internet.

Like, if you're not a Chad, you don't date on the internet. If you're, if you're a five out of 10 average guy, there's no chance you're meeting anyone on the internet that's even remotely decent because there's, A, there's more women on the internet

and women are so used to dating up. So why are they going to date you? Why are they going to message you when there's, so they have, They had a guy go on, and a girl took over this guy's account, says, you just don't know how to talk to women. I'll get you a date. She's on there for like two weeks, no dates.

And he was a decent looking guy, and she was saying all the right things. She's like, yeah, it's been three days. I've had four matches. And so the guy took her channel and then went through it. And she had like 30 matches in 30 minutes. It hadn't even written the description yet. So the woman, because she was, you know, pretty good looking, eight on 10, men lining up. so women, they don't give a shit unless you're, think of it.

If you have 30 guys to choose from and you're 5'6, like me, is she going to talk to you? No, you're 6 too. Okay. Like, they start from there. I think the height is that important? It's, okay, here's the difference. Between 5'4 6 and 6 foot, you need to make $180,000 more at 5'6 to balance out. What are you basing out on?

Basing it on whatever study research and said, we've got these men and they're all the same good-looking and they give you your height and they'd say the different factors like income. and as you made more money, obviously you're more interesting. Like if I make an account on a dating site right now, and I say I have $10 million and I'm 5'6, and they see 10 million, I'm getting girls. If I say I make $50,000 to go in how much money you make. People are going to lie all the time.

They'll type in network. Well, for me, on a dating, they basically have to find out on them famous. I'm going to date a, think of it. 48-year-old coach Greg, that's not coach Greg, poor. There's no one dating 5-foot-6, coach Greg, 48 years old. it's hot.

There's not. They're not doing it. But if they say, wait a minute, isn't that that famous coach guy? He probably has money. He sells a cookbook for sure. Yeah,

he's got cookbooks. He probably cook for me. He definitely sells a cookbook. I know I've seen a post about that one. I'll be that guy, but they're not dating 48-year-old manlet coach Greg,

but with money and fame and some... That's what I thought, that's what I thought ugly guys had it easier because they could get rich. Not that getting rich is easy. Technically, I could say ugly girls could get better looking by getting surgery and getting liposuction.

Oh, that shit's so trash. But I'm telling you, a one out of ten girl, okay, let's, me and you go to a bar, we're above average looking guys, and we go in, and we take two ugly girls and say, who leaves with a man first or with a woman first? Those girls probably. No, it's me, 100%. You're still winning? 100%. Man, these girls. You think the fat bitch can outwork me?

I think. No. I think he could say, I need four guys to come home. with me for a gang bang tonight i think she's i think she's gonna make it happen i need four girls to come home with me for for for an orgy tonight i think i wouldn't maybe more game than i do but i think i win in that bad it's not happening for me jeez yeah the ugly girls can just snap and imagine average looking average looking in five minutes like i've talked to good looking girls and they're like you know what i you know i just go to the bar and i just basically just pick out whoever i want

and then I go up to them, like, you want to go home with me? Nine out of ten times it's a yes. So above average looking girl. Nine out of ten, no matter who they want, they're coming home with her. I don't think that nine out of ten you can pick. I mean, if you can, that's some skill. Nine out of ten.

I don't think. I think that's getting nine out of ten girls. What? I don't think. Some girls are like, I don't like that. I'm not going to have a one night's ten. I don't know.

I see what you're saying. Yeah. Just not like leaving the bar and have sex. But like, women are the gatekeepers for sex. Men are gatekeepers for the relationship. yeah it's way harder for men one third of men haven't had sex in the last year see it's hard for you to understand

because you're what six three six four yes yeah yeah so obviously you're already you're already set without even being good looking your height alone is done plus you've got muscles you're good looking I mean you don't understand what it's like to be normal I have a little bit understanding because I'm not I'm down here you're up there I'm here I'm 48 it's not the same for me remember I was I had a relation for 11 years

so I knew it was like before but I was a pro bodybuilder so I still had a good physique so I could kind to work that. Yeah. I was a good job. But like, imagine you're ugly and short and fat.

You're not getting anybody. And so one third of men aren't having any sex at all. That's fucking sad. Think of how many people are in relationships. So it's probably 50% of men who are single

aren't getting late ever. And you know why? Because women are all sleeping with the top 15% of chads. The guys who are eights, nines and tens. That's what all... Because of the internet.

They're getting all the girls. All of them. The fours, the fives, the sixes, the sevens, the eights, and nine, they're all dating up. And so that six, she thinks he's a 10. You see how girls, you all think they're tens. I'm a 10, I'm a 10.

Why? Because that six slept with the 10 once on the internet because he was bored at 3 a.m. and messager. And so she got him once. And now she's like, oh, I need a man like that. They're thinking that because they got them once. They think, yeah, that's what I deserve. All men are creeps.

Yeah, because you keep dating up three, you're a six, you're trying to get a nine or 10. They're using you. I love how it works. This is so funny to me. funny this i feel like i'm watching a youtube video my favorite topic yeah i just yeah what got you into it so much because you were shorter what got me into reading yeah i don't just i was doing reading attached just got me started and then i read like uh hold me tight

which is like how to keep relationships going then i hold like um just a lot of like unplug i don't know do you ever read anything about how to get taller i would love to get taller they have a do you know what's funny i've seen it i'm lit the the leg length yeah I'm actually tall, but I have short tibious. So when I'm sitting... This part. Yes, exactly. So if I'm sitting down in a chair at dinner, I'm like five...

I have an upper body of a guy who's 511, but the legs of a guy who's 5'4. So it's like... So if I'm sitting, I'm good. Damn, they rinse you. Yeah. Crazy. Your parents.

But you know what helped me in this soon? People are like, how do you have such a good deadlift and a good bench press? Because the only reason you can deadlift so much you have long arms. I'm like, well, I have the world record in the bench press. So that's because you have short arms. I'm like... Which one is it?

So which one is it? How can you be good at, because I have short tibia, so the bar doesn't need to move as far from the ground. So this is exceptionally short. Like, when you use a calf-raised machine? I could have put the lower-secret. Wait, so why are you so good at benching then? Genetics?

Yeah. Because you don't really have super short arms. No, they're actually longer than my wings. My wingspan is an inch wider than my height. So my arms are slightly longer than average. What was your best deadlift? In a competition, just 704. In a gym, 765.

Yeah. But I'm known for my reps. Like I did the Guinness record for deadlift, like 405. That's, but what bodyway were you doing that, that deadlift? That's a fucking great deadlift. I was 210 when I did the Guinness record for the deadlift. And when I pulled 765 in the gym, I was probably like 220 or so. What do you, what do you think now? Because like everyone does everything now.

Everyone's good at bench. Everyone's fucking strong. What do you think like now, do people even, you know, like Larry Wheels, me before Larry Wheels, like, it was like, this guy's really strong. and this guy's really strong. Now it's like everyone is just strong as fuck because there's so many people doing it. What are the levels of like what makes someone really strong?

I think, well, first of all, I think you're only, you're slightly biased because you're being shown the top 1% of the top 1% of the top 1% of the top 1%. So I think that there's just as many strong people now as there were. It's just all of them are now on YouTube. All of them are on Instagram. We see every single one of them.

Versus when I started posting in 2006, there were probably a lot of guys out there stronger than me, but no one was posting their videos. So there was like, hey, you're the strongest guy in the bench. It was like there wasn't those videos. So I think that's kind of why we see that. We're being shown the best of the best of the best. Yeah.

So people aren't actually that strong. It's like when I go to gyms, I don't see anyone lifting these big weights. Like hardly anyone, if there's three plates on the bench press, I'm looking. I'm like, wow, who's this guy benching three plates?

Like, but now you see on the internet, it's everyone's doing that. But in reality, I don't think people are. Yeah. So what are you saying? So then what are the,

what are the, what are the, I guess now, because there's this big weights everywhere, like on the internet, the top 1%, What do you think now is actually impressive, squat, pinch, deadlift? Well, it's going to factor in your age. It's going to then factor in how much you weigh.

It's going to factor in how much have you been training and are you natural or not? So, I mean, I just did a video on a kid who was 17. They bench pressed 500 pounds touch and go. There's another kid that wrote me in private and said, do that you're not on me too. I did the same lift at 17. Do people hit you up to do those on them? Absolutely. People have offered to pay me to do nadier knots on them.

I'll give you $10,000 to do a nadir not on me. I want to be famous. People want me to do it. They don't care if I say they're natural or not. It's exposure. Yeah. Like, occasionally people get mad when I do a nad or not and say they're not natural. But, like, I mean, really, it should be an insult if I see or natty.

Like, really, like, what? You think I'm natural? Like, that's the way I see it. That's funny. Yeah, I just, I, I just remember seeing so many fucking videos, man. You just talk shit. It's funny. But you say, you say, I mean, you don't say things that are not true.

I based it on the evidence and the facts. And I try to paint a story, paint a picture and say, well, this happened, this happened, this happened, and this is what I believe. Now, sometimes I know fact for fact, because I've gotten certain DMs or proof, but I don't expose the person. Like, I'll know they're not natural. Like if somebody said, hey, I use drugs. I use tests and trend, but they'll tell me confidence. And if I do an ad or not, I'll not use that information. Like, if somebody tells me something privately, I just keep it secret. Like, I'm not going to expose it. So, like, some guys are natural. I'm like, look, if you want to go on steroids and you,

You want help. You can tell me about it. I want to expose you in a video. Did you ever think I was natural? Never. Not even close. Oh, that's funny. In your opinion, what are like the things that show it the most, like on the outside?

Your size, like the sheer size of your, yeah. I mean, the strength was enough, but the size even more obvious. Yeah. I still remember the video of you jumping out of a pool. Yeah. That's where I must have had a lot of views on that one. I mean, that was the first thing went viral. Like, just out of the pool.

I saw recently a guy do that, and he's just like, freak athlete. Yeah. He must have extreme levels of, like, sport. You must have been good at every sport I'm imagining. Yeah. I mean, I was always good at jumping. I was always good at explosive stuff.

But explosive power, translate into so much. Like, you must be dunk in basketball. Easy. Yeah. You just, yeah. Yeah. So it's like, then we look at you, like, you're,

I've seen a lot of videos, which is fun for me. He's like, could you beat this guy in a street fight? It always comes up. Yeah. Just a lot of videos. is on that. I'm like, but he's not just like a, like, you're not just like a bodybuilder. Like you're not like, I don't know, like Chris Bumstead. It's like just a big muscle. You're an athlete too. And I'm like a big athlete that can move and jump out of a pool.

There's probably a guy who don't want to fight. Like, so I think people are. Well, yeah, I think people when I say it and they just, they don't know enough. They just go, he's a dumb bodybuilder. Yeah. If you said, hey, I bench press 600 pounds. I'm like, okay, that doesn't mean you can fight. But I'm like, if you can jump out of a pool and do backflips and you use your body, if you trained a little bit, then you absolutely can. Yeah, they put power behind the punch for sure because it's hip strength. Yeah.

It's all coming from the hips. It's not like I'm, because I'll see videos people like, this is you versus Devin Haney, whatever, because I've had these interviews. And they'll show me a bodybuilder like punching someone like this. Yeah. I'm like, what?

It's not the same. Do you know who the world strongest man? Oh, what's his name? Mitchell Hooper, do you know the world strongest man from Canada? Yes. Yeah. This guy can fight. He's grappled with, like he's not like a trained fighter,

but he's so athletic and so just, it doesn't make sense. sense to see this guy. I think he could beat all these like 170 pound like UFC kind guys. Because he's 330 pounds and like he's shoulder pressing over 500 pounds now. It doesn't even make sense. He's so strong. I, he, I can't believe what he can do at anything. And I'm like this guy is so athletic and so strong. I just, I feel like he's just too good. Like, no, he'd beat you. Like, yeah. He's the size. 330. Is insane. It's just he's 6, 2, 6, 330 pounds and agile and he's quick and strong. I'm like, man, he's

big. At 6-2, 3-30 is huge. Yeah. Now what's funny is when you see him next to the guy like the mountain, like Thor, he looks small. Yeah, the height. But compared to like me, I'm like, I swear he could pick me up and throw me over like of 10 foot bar. Like he's just the power is nuts. And he used to run marathons.

It's nuts. Like five years ago he was a marathon runner and now he's world strongest man and he wins by a lot. Yeah. Did you watch the fight, the boxing fight last night? I saw Garcia. I didn't watch it but I saw he won. I said like three knockdowns he won like unanimous that means the judges thought one of the judges didn't think he won yeah I think yeah I think it's two to that was two to one I guess that's so man I don't know

much about it but I know that he lost like five hundred thousand dollars per pound that because he weight class of 140 yeah so he paid 1.5 so he weighed over and like you saw all the lead up to it not really only like the last two days before you didn't see all the um the stuff him tweeting like crazy shit. No, I'm in the dark. I don't know what he's been saying. I don't know what he did. Damn, really? Yeah. You're not on Twitter like that? I don't have Twitter. Huh. I don't, I definitely not have Twitter. I can barely keep up with like Snapchat. Damn. I'm surprised you're not a Twitter guy. Man, I'm, I got canceled from TikTok. So I'm not on TikTok either. You're canceled from TikTok? Yeah. For what? Defending a guy for hitting on a girl at the gas station. Sounds about right

right up my alley. Wait, so they, they, they canceled me. Literally. Multiple times. Yeah. So there's this guy and he went up to a girl at the gas station like yay babe like what's your phone number you're looking fine you know and so she gets in her car and she's like you're hitting me up at the gas station i got sphinxs the feet at home sphinx cat you reacted to that and so i reacted to this video and i'm like this guy is just talking to the gas station it's in the middle of the day he's not grabbing you he's not saying anything he's not like you know you bitch like he's not he's just hey you're a hot girl i want to get your number i want to date with you she's like it's so inappropriate appropriate the gas station so send people like millions of views from like it was it went viral I had 58,000 negative comments on my wall not views but comments 50,000 comments on the threat you're the reason I don't let my daughter go out at night you're at like the words it was because you were what you were saying like because I said this girl should have said no thank you I'm not interested in gone back in her car and not made a video to make fun of this guy I was like he took the courage like he went to the gas station saw this girl who's pretty 23 or whatever young girl and he's

And he had the courage to go up and say, hey, I'm interested, you look, you look hot or whatever. And I'm like, and you had to go and make fun of him on social media, kind of like a Joey's whole video, I'm feeling like. But like, so I'm like defending this guy. And they're like, you're an asshole, look at your neck, look at your steroids, look at your voice, you're an asshole, you're five foot six, you're this, I would never let. I'm like, when I was young, when I was your age, if I saw a girl at gas station, be like, hi, what's your number? You look good. Because there was no swiping. There was no internet.

So we talked to people in the real world. And so they mass reported my channel as being sexual content, bullying, harassment, every. And so there was thousands of violations. And in TikTok, just, you're done. You want to get it back? I went back three times and they canceled me all those times. I think we have it back again. And I had like one of those checkmark things.

And it was like, it's not worth it. But I'm like, I made a lot of money on that, on that site. I had made $200,000 thousand dollars in a day on one ad. What? The fuck? Selling turkestrone. Oh, that's when that shit was popping. I remember that.

Oh, yeah. I made an ad and I was like, what's Turkestra? And I'm like, nobody knows, nobody knows. And it was like, I was just like a joke

kind of like video and that ad and I was like, man, $40,000 in sales in an hour. I was like, wow, that's pretty cool. What the fuck?

It was something like, so the TikTok prevented me for making a lot of money. Like it's not, there's not much money in ads, but it's the ability to sell products from that. You want to get your TikTok back? Yeah.

I can do it. All right. Let's do it. I can do it. I want to have you back on there Defending men Yeah We need that

I don't understand Like TikTok is a weird That's a really weird one though Like to say Because it's like what the fuck What else is the person supposed to do I know I just like You guys are mad at me

And they're like I get it the guy was like Yo bitch roll down your window Right They're like do you not know It's I said The number one of fear of a man is rejection And he went and put himself out there

You said this in a video Yes And it's still got That's fucking crazy And then I made it on YouTube And it didn't get canceled So then I had my ex-girlfriend at the time sitting on a video with me and say, look, like, this is normal behavior.

And I'm like, you know what? If Chris Bumstead pulled up in a friggin Lamborghini and said, hey, what's your number? You're not making a video. It's because he was a three and you're a freaking nine or a ten. And you're insulted that a man who's beneath you thought he had a chance with you that he could say hi. And so you're insulted. And you're like, let me get some views on the internet. And you went there with a McLaren and was the same thing.

And you're like, hey, you know, what's up? What's your number? she's not making a video she's complimented she's like hey there's this tall good looking guy with a nice car maybe he's even in a suit that's cool but if it's five foot six manlet boy it's not working so i was like i felt bad for this guy and defended it's personal it's kind of personal i feel like i feel this i'm gonna help you out i love you out short kings dude yeah you got to help the short kings the funny thing is people think short kings like five nine five nine's average height for a man i'm like you guys aren't short kings at five nine

oh in that video about the dating they're like you're going to be be an average man trying to get a girl and so like five nine she's like what do you mean five nine average height for men's five eleven i've never dated anyone or six feet and she's like you're going to make me try to get a girl at five nine and i'm sitting there at five six thinking five nine's tall was it harder for you to get girls though when you were younger well i never thought that height mattered but i i remember doing online dating i met this girl and we had a great rapport chatting i drove to halifax three hours and i see her in a club and she's like yeah no it's like you're not dating i'm like what's wrong you know i'm like what's wrong you know i'm like

look you're you're too short i thought you were taller i'm like how does that matter i can't date you like she just was a no like straight up damn she was 511 i was 5 6 it's a tallest girl ever dated but to me it didn't matter like most of my ex-girlfriends have been taller than me so it hasn't been like hasn't i don't think of that but for them it's like no i can't do it i'm like this is personal for you do so i mean it sucks in a way but i also think yeah if she looked back now and saw where I am today, she probably would be like, hmm, I think I could settle for five, six. Yeah, but money. You get your settle.

It's fucking, wow, bro. Like, does it really matter? Like, why does, I can get a girl wanting a man to be taller than, like, my last girlfriend was five eight, so she's two inches taller than me. But I can understand wanting a man taller. Like, I get that. But if you're five foot one and you're like, I need a man who's six foot, I'm like, what is wrong with you?

No, you don't need that. And they're just, it's just baked into the, everyone says it. Everyone says it. Everyone says it. They want a protector and all this. I'm like, so you wouldn't, so if the, if, if,

a five foot six UFC champion wanted to date somebody who's five, four, they would be, no, he's too short. I'm like, he's a protector. He's five,

he's a UFC fighter. What are you talking about? Does I understand the whole protection thing, but like, yeah, dude's a freaking UFC champion. And just because he's short, what does that mean?

This guy's 6-3, but he's like 120 pounds. Like, how was that going to help? Yeah, that guy's definitely getting worked. So, yeah.

Did you get a hair transplant? it? I did. How did that work? That were good for you? I could have more hair in the, I put like, I had, I never even knew I was going bald at all. And some people are like, you're balding. I'm like, I feel no. Like, I felt like, I always had like normal like hair in the front. But then I looked here and in the crown, it's called it bet. Yeah. It was, it was balding. And I was like, oh, it was balding. And I was like, oh, I was like, my brother's like, Greg, you keep saying you're not balding, but like, look at your head. I'm like, I don't know, it looks normal. And so I was like, oh, I guess I am. And then so now hair time reached out and they're like, hey, we'll, we'll give you. you had this free hair transplant, whatever. And they're like, yeah, you and your partner. So my girlfriend at the time, I'm like, all right. I'm like, do you want to get like a hair transplant? Absolutely, I do. I'm like, oh, I didn't really want to, but it's a free, it's a free trip.

I'm like, sounds good. I want to visit that country. This is in Turkey. Yeah. So we flew up and then they examined her hair and they couldn't, they couldn't do the. She didn't have donors or what? Yeah, their hair wasn't too, it was not strong enough to do it. But for me, I could.

And so they, I know they put hair here. I could have been thicker. I think I had like maybe a little bit less hair here. But yeah, but it wasn't many graphs like 2,500. Like I know Chris Bump said in them got theirs done. And everyone made fun of me. Oh my God,

you're so self-conscious, you hate your, I'm like, I didn't even know I needed, like, I didn't even know I was balding, but it was free and it was a cool trip. And I'm going with my partner,

and I'm like, I'll support. I'll get a hair done. Because I shave bald, my partner's going to be bald. I'm like, I'll get it done too. And I'm like,

well, I'm not going to say no. So I got the tear. fun of hard for that like oh my god you got this hair trying to like made fun hard and then uh whatever two years later chris bumstead's doing it he was supposed to go on the same trip as me to this thing him in the year's prior yeah when i went he canceled we were supposed to go the same time we're gonna shoot content in turkey together and uh so and then chris backed out and then he ended up going a couple years later so i don't know i think that the more it gets normalized it's not a big deal yeah um but

i need to go out there and do it i've been thinking about i just like don't make the time to go do it It's a trip, yeah. It's annoying for the first, like, three days. You have to sleep with, like, a neck brace. You can't, like, touch anything. Like, I'm going in the limo and my head bumps and, like, oh. Plus, they say you can't do cardio for a month. I'm like, I don't care.

I did cardio. I was in the gym lifting the next day. I was like, if all my hair falls, I don't give a shit. Okay. I was like, it's just hair. So you didn't really care? My hair looked good when I was bald. I thought.

I did a bizarre of the rock video. I put on a suit and the vest, and I was like, I'm pretending to be the rock. and I had the completely shaved head and the video got over a million views it was great I thought I looked I thought it looked good bald I was like maybe what do you think

bald or no? She likes this she likes this you're like this all right well there so I guess I shouldn't go bald yeah no yeah the balding thing is a big thing that men fucking deal with and hate that's the big thing with steroids I think more people care if I said you know stairs you're gonna die younger

heart attack liver damage they're like I don't care If I say gyno and your hair is going to recede a bit quicker, you might have some acne. Oh, God, give me away from that. So vain. We're all so vain. That's way bigger deal than ever saying, oh, you might die at 50. 50.

I don't even want to live to be 50 until you get to that age. Yeah. Like when you're my age, but like, when you're, like, I was young once. I was like, man, I don't give a shit. Like, you don't think that way. But when you get older, you start thinking like, oh, shit. When did you start to think differently? I would say my 40s, like mid 40s.

like I was doing steroids and I was like, oh, I don't really, they switched men's body building and they added in classic physique. And I was like, oh, I'll do that because now I don't have to use a lot of gear because I'm like, I still, like my last show, I did a small cycle, like maybe 450 milligrams a week total because I was already too big for the class.

I had to make 185. So I'm like, oh, I can body build in a healthy way now because like I hardly have to use anything. So I did that show. And then they added now seven or eight pounds back so I could go back. And so if I did classic physique, I could get bigger.

But I would have to use the 10. test and the trend the whole thing and it's like it's not worth it for me like there's no there's no way like the health consequences i didn't even regret using steroids until like probably this year where i look back i'm like oh shit if i hadn't done it maybe i'd live longer like even at the time like you convince yourself that it's okay like yeah it's tough because you know i talked a lot of guys like they say they're in 20s 30s or body billers and i'm like yeah you probably shouldn't use steroids because it's not good for you but it's hard to like tell them that because i know i was in that moment and anyone would say, don't do it. I'm like, yeah, but it won't happen to me.

Yeah. I'm good. Do you think, so you think you cut years off your life? I think so. I think it's hard to imagine that I didn't. The science and the research would say that I did, despite the fact that, okay, let's go with this. My blood work is still better than 99% of people, but wouldn't it be better than 99.99% of people? So even though my blood work shows that I'm really healthy, like when I go to my doctor and he's like, wow, this is like really good, but wouldn't it be even better if I hadn't have done it. So let's say I live to be 85. Maybe I would live to be 95. Like, oh, no, you live to 85. See, it didn't do anything. Well, you know, my grandfather got to 94. My grandmother, 94. My other grandmother, 99. So, you know, some genetics to live really long.

I feel like, like, they keep talking about how a lot of stuff is changing, though, as far as, like, life expectancy with people, because of, like, science and technology and all this kind of shit. I think, like, not saying, you know, go ahead and take a bunch of fucking steroids, but I think, I think people are going to start living longer. Oh, we should. every generation should live longer because there's medical advances. I think that we'll live longer. You would hope. Yeah.

Unless we screw ourselves up with something like pollut in the ozone layer or something. Like who knows. Yeah. Like how's the world ending, you know? It's like, fuck. Yeah. Do you think, do you think, I mean, you said you're 48? Mm.

Do you think the world's like the quote unquote worst has ever been now or the best? The world's, is it the best or worse has ever been? I have to assume that it's the best it's ever been. People that say it's not, I think that's only because they weren't aware of what's going on. I think now we're more aware of the shit that's going on.

I think that if you look back 10 years, 20 years, 30s, you're going to be, oh, it was better time when I was a kid. I was like, maybe not. We just more aware. Like, yeah, we're just shown more shit. Like, you know, like all the news is all the bad things in the world.

Well, now we see all the wars of the world. We see the pictures of the suffering. We see the problems in society. But before, we weren't aware of anything. Ignorance is bliss, so to speak. so I would say the world's the best it's ever been but I mean a lot of people are going to disagree but I just think that you were probably more

you're sheltered you didn't really know the problems more veil pulled over didn't really see it yeah just it's just I wonder if something major is going to happen before this sort of election you ever think about that like the U.S. election is there something major that's going to happen it just seems like I don't know as we always

we get close to that November always get closer to the election it's like something is I don't follow U.S. politics I don't even follow Canadian politics, so I don't really know. I wish I could talk more on the subject, but I'm like almost an ignorance is bliss kind of guy when it comes to that. I don't understand politics at all. You just stay in your lane.

Yeah, it's just one more thing that I'm not aware of. Like, I have friends that are really passionate about it, and I'm like, I listen to them talk and I just nod a lot. And I'm like, I wish I could add to the conversation, but I don't know anything. Yeah. You think it helps you to avoid it, not avoid it, but just not be involved in it.

No, I don't. I think that the more, I think with knowledge comes, power, the more things I can learn about the better, but there's only so many hours in a day. Like, I don't watch TV anymore. Like, I don't watch TV. Like, I used to watch your soul operas and your sitcoms and your whatever's. There's nothing I watch. I don't, I have all the, TV and pretty much every room in the house. I don't ever watch it because I'm like, I don't have time. I just, I want to read. I want to like study. So I feel that TV is holding us back as a society in general. I think it's a horrible waste of time. And you're just

addicted to the quick dopamine. It's no different than screen time, I guess. But. Yeah. Like fucking porn, same shit. Yeah. That's a massive problem, I think. Yeah, you waste all day doing certain things and it's not productive in your life. And before you know it, you're like, why did I just waste 10 years doing that?

Have you ever been at a point where you were super unproductive? Because obviously you seem so, like, motivated, driven, doing all this stuff you're doing. Have you ever been like, fuck, what am I going to do? What should I do? I've always been like, I don't know. Like, I've always had a passion for something. Like, when I was younger, it wasn't so much school.

Like, so I was doing bad in some school subjects when I was a kid but it was sports was my passion like that kept me going I'd say without sports I would have just failed out of school I didn't give a shit like but being in sports and it teaches you to work hard for something I spent four years in high school even I didn't even graduate like a normal person like my twin brother he's a PhD guy he teaches chemistry and a university super like genius level of intelligence so I was probably compared to him I was not as smart as that and I just I couldn't focus I couldn't study I couldn't sit and read for 15 minutes I couldn't take a book and study. So nowadays, they just say, oh, you got an ADHD. Back in my day,

it was not a thing. So you just was like, you, you acted out in class and made jokes and didn't study and had shitty marks. And I spent four, four years in high school to learn. And then in my fourth year, I'm like, I'm going to apply myself. I'm like, I want it now. And I would just study more than anyone. Like I would, I went from getting like 50s to 90s. Like just, it's like, I didn't have the best intelligence, but I worked so hard. I can make up for it. Like, the more you study, the more you can do. So I've always had that passion to learn, that passion to be better than I was.

I think almost, it's almost an obsession. It's almost like my number one quality would be my dedicated, being dedicated to things, like being stubborn almost like I'm going to do this. Because without that, I wouldn't have been able to study those hours, I'm able to train that many hours for whatever sports I was doing,

to read, to focus. Like, yeah. So for me, I think it's easy. It's easy for me to work hard. So for other, people they don't have the discipline to go to the gym but for me it's like how is it hard like but i was blessed with the genetics and the upbringing to make me want to do these things like so for me it's i don't think it's fair for me to say why don't you just go to the gym three hours a day and

you lose weight well it's hard to go to the gym three hours a day for most people for me it's like if i was 500 pounds overweight right now i would lose 500 pounds and i would know i would do it and i would be successful because that's what i do but for another person they don't have that Yeah, that's you knowing what you know and what you've been through. So it's like obviously someone at a completely different start point and set point where they are, it's like they're just this hopelessness. Yeah. So for those people, how do you, how would you tell someone like to get there to where you're at?

How do you eventually get there? I always tell people it's really important. I have realistic goals and expectations. Like the one thing I try not to do is like, like when I would do a bodybuilding show, I would never try to win. I'd be like, I'm just going to be my best. Maybe I'll get 10th. And people like, aren't you going to try to win?

I'm like, yeah. Well, why do you think you're going to get 10th? I'm like, because I'll probably get 10th. Like, I'm very realistic with my goal. So I set real estate goals and expectations, so I'm never disappointed. If you think you're going to get, I don't know, let's say you're studying for something, you think you're going to get 100 on your test and you get an 80. You're going to be really upset.

But I'm like, no, I'm going to study my ass off and get an 80. And I've been getting an 80 there. That's good. The measure of happiness is how much better you get than you expect. So if I expect to make $5 million this year and I get four, I'm probably going to be upset. If I expect to make one and I make four, I'm going to be like, oh, my God. So I try to have realistic expectations. if your goal is to lose weight,

say you're 100 pounds over weight. I'm like, lose 50. None of this, I want to lose 100 pounds. I like, will convince people they can't do it. I'm like, what kind of logic is that? I'm like, I want you to know that 50 pounds that you lost weight is a huge goal. And if you do that, you've accomplished a lot.

And once you get to that goal, if you then want to lose more, hey, it's a new goal. Yeah, it's more of an increment. Yeah. Because, man, it's so disappointing. Like, reach for the, reach for the stars and hit the moon. You're going to be upset. I was trying to get to the stars.

I landed on the moon. How's that good? So I'm more of a, you know, set something that you can actually achieve, be realistic about it, and be happy with that. Because, you know, if you don't get your goal, you're going to be upset and then you're going to feel something like, you might say fuck it, yeah. Yeah. It's more about the incremental, incremental sets.

Like get there, okay, I got here. Can I go a little further? Can I go a little further? Yeah. And just realistically, like, okay, it's New Year's. Everyone's going to say, okay, I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to train two times a day every day. How about we start with three times a week?

And let's try to lose 10 pounds. you want to lose 100 pounds this year. Let's try to lose 10 and let's commit to three. If you go to gym four or five times, hey, that's bonus. Let's just set something realistic. So that's really what I do with everyone. It's been like that as a school teacher,

as a coach. Like whenever I've talked or trained people, I've always tried to have them like with something realistic that they can actually do and have success with because once you get disappointed and you get frustrated, it's really hard to focus and really try. You're like, screw this shit, I give up. And so you expect to,

lose 20 pounds per month and you lose 10 you're like fuck this it's not worth it i'm like you lost 10 like imagine how good that is but if you're expected to lose 20 you hate it's weird it's almost like the same way it works with you're like i'm gonna do 10 you just and then that's where it starts to get hard and then sometimes if you don't even go i'm gonna do 10 you just go as many as you can you get further like the same sort of concept just in reverse well in the weight room um people want to gain 10 pounds on muscle in the year and they gain four and they and they give up and it's like well they're looking at guys on steroids and they're saying they gain 10.

I'm like, you gain four, that's awesome. But they're upset because they're comparing stuff to other people. So I always say, don't expect anything, just train. And if you get better, that's awesome. People are like, that's the negative attitude. You should be going for Mr. Olympia.

I'm like, man, if I was 18 years old and expected to be a minister, Mr. Olympia, I would have just gave up. It's just such a far off goal. I'm like, I'm just going to be trying to be better next year than this year. Yeah. The incremental changes, incremental goals.

Yeah. Hard for people to just set things that are. I don't know. I think a lot of people do set realistic expectations and goals and they just don't do enough work to get there. It might be realistic for me and you to do. Like if they say my goal is to train two hours a day, six days a week, and then they want to lose 100 pounds.

They could, but for them they couldn't. Like they're not, if you're not ready to give up chips, don't say you're giving up chips. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? If you're trying to lose weight, I always say, hey, start with switching to die pop. This is going to be a huge difference. If you drink regular pop and go to die, you're going to have less. calories. Is that one thing? You can do that one thing. Name one thing you can do. And if they do

that, they're going to start losing weight. Like one thing. You don't have to say, okay, it's the diet starts Monday. And it's, it's chicken, broccoli and rice is too much. Yeah, that's fucking terrible. No one's going to sustain that. Like you said earlier about the training routine that works, it's like what's going to be sustainable for you. Yeah. You know, all those things. I think, yeah, I don't know why. I think, I think the, the goal setting thing is all skew because the internet. I think the internet's the root of all of our fucking problems. And also, like, the root of a lot of good too but it's definitely like because you see it and you go okay I want that but you're like a thousand steps behind so to get there is like at the time in which it takes for you

to get discouraged and you're just like fuck it certainly those transformations before and afters in the 12 weeks and most of the time done with drugs and you see that and you're like that's what I want like I'll do a video on a guy and it's like Alex Harmosey you know this guy yeah the gym guy so I'm he's in 2015 I found his video because I did an adder or not on him I'm like this is a retroactive fake netty. And he's like, I put on 36 pounds in six weeks. And then he did the Dexa and it was 22.6 pounds of muscle

in six weeks. And what did he do? He trained three hours a day and was eaten in a bulk. And so you read that and you're like, look at this guy. And then he went on to gain 52 pounds in 16 weeks. So he gained 52 pounds and he's natural. Then later it comes out oh, HRT at 75 milligrams. Okay. Really? You're going to tell me that this man

put on 52 pounds in 16 weeks and that he wasn't on every drug in the world to do this like really so you see alex do that and you think he's a nice believable guys his his his mannerisms are polite like he seems like a great dude he wouldn't lie to me and then you go to the gym and you train and do the same thing you gain four pounds and he gain 52 then you're like what the hell and so you're disappointed and you never go to the gym ever again but in my video I'm like this guy I don't believe what he's saying this is my daddy or not on him I think he's lying and so you watch my video and then maybe because you watch my video and you go to the gym, you only gain four pounds,

you think, oh, that's okay. Greg said four pounds makes sense. But if you watch his video, what's wrong with you? I did this. And he's like, yeah, I have great genetics, but I'm like, do you think anyone's putting on 52 pounds of 16 weeks? Like, really? And it's not even new beginnings. He's already been training. It's, it's so unreasonably, it's so impossible to do that it's like, why even say it? Yeah. You know, it's funny after having this whole conversation with you? I feel like you're a little bit misunderstood. I think everyone's misunderstands my message, but they only see snippets of my videos.

And I'm speaking from that perspective. Because I've seen, obviously I've seen videos, you know, you talk about me, I'll watch some stuff or someone will send me like a clip or some shit. Yeah.

And, but what you're saying, like the bulk of it now sitting having this conversation with you was like, oh, it's all super fucking accurate. And it's good information.

I try to always speak. I don't lie. So, see, it's not hard to be honest when you just don't lie. Like, so when I'm making videos, I'm just giving my honest,

opinion and sane stuff and then if you don't like it that's fine but I'm not lying so a lot of people call me a liar which is very annoying because I'm like I'm not lying like how do I convince you that so I can't so when people say I'm lying about my HR T dose I'm like but like I have every video saying of all my cycles and if I was on a cycle right now I would tell you because it would get a lot of views hey guess what I'm back on trend that's a great video if I was actually so why would I lie about it now I don't see the incentive so when I talk about nadier it's I'm giving you my opinion and I'm saying why I believe that to be true Yeah.

And I think I'm helping people. Like, that's why I do it. Like, they might think, oh, no, it's just to make money. Of course I want to make money that's part of it, but I'm not lying to make that money. Yeah. So whenever I brag up supplements, like when I say I'm on Turk Builder right now and I'm these supplements and I say what's doing, I'm like, it's way better than creatine. They're like, no, the research doesn't prove that.

I'm like, yeah, the research that you didn't read doesn't prove it. The ones that I did, and I'm on it and I know it. My friends are on it and they know it's better than creatine. Like, I'm positive. Like, I don't lose sleep at night because I know it's. better. So I'm taking a supplement. I'm taking it. I put on four pounds in a month. You lied. Well, the scale did that and my body was leaner, so I'm not lying. I don't care what you think. I wouldn't lie about this. So, but people are like, you're just a snake old salesman. You're just lying to

sell, I'm like, I just tell you the truth. If it didn't work, I'd be like, it didn't work. Like, I don't care. It's not like I need the money. Like they'll say, you need to pay these. You're lying because you need to make the payments in your vehicles. I'm like, I'm not going to buy a car that can't buying full right off or buy 10 of them. Like, I'm good with money. I save. I'm like a saver. I'm a penny pincher kind of guy.

So when people are accusing me of like lying and doing all the stuff to sell products, I'm like, no, I enjoy it. It's a measure of success how you're doing. Like, I think when LeBron James plays basketball and he asks a big salary, it's because why not? He could play for free. He doesn't need the money, but he still gets it. So when I sell products, I enjoy it.

You think LeBron James, Natty? that's a great question I think he is I do but I think he's taking something that would pass so Natty like how do we define if he's natural not I don't think he's on test I don't think he's on growth hormone but I think he's on any peptide that he could take that would be legal or undetected you don't think you wouldn't take some growth for recovery if he could if they test for it and they would know that he's taking it he wouldn't do it because he would fail the test like I don't think he would fake it but I think you would do anything that he could do to get away with they would do. So is he natural? Like, I mean,

well, how did you ever draw that natty line when you're in these videos are you saying if someone's naty or not? How did you say they were natty? Like when you talk about these other substances. So the beauty with natty or nots for me is it's like anyone like just being your size doesn't mean you're not natural. It's it doesn't. Like if you're an IFBB pro, every single one of those guys who was who if they were natural would look not natural. Like if you take Derek Lunsford or Chris Bumstead or any of you. these guys and they were natural and I'd look at them and be like there's no way it is natural because but their genetics are that good. So what I look for is like, okay, is there ever been a time

when he gained a lot of muscle quickly? Like that's a bigger sign than that. And does the person have gyno that developed out of nowhere? Did he have acne at some point develop out of nowhere? So like I've done natty or not some myself. I'm like, well look at this. This guy gained 15 pounds here. Like obviously something's going on. Like it's very easy to see. Or like when I'll look at somebody like Mike Thurston. I'm like, dude, do you see this guy in the red shorts and a visa? This is compared to his other videos? Oh my God. It's like something's going on there. So, so that's more a telltale sign versus just looking at a body. Because like Alex Eubank, he just looks, he doesn't look enhanced. Like you just, you can't look at him be like,

there's no way he could build that build naturally. But when I look at his blood work and he's like, hey, my testosterone levels were between 225 and four something for all these years. And now it's at 923, I'm like in chlomaphene. Like, what did you do? You went on a bulk and your testosterone levels are now higher than 99% of the world when you had low, it doesn't work. So I'm like, I'll say, you're doing this because of the evidence. They don't hate the guy.

I don't have anything. I like him. I just, I don't believe you. You know what I mean? It's just based on the evidence. When you say your testosterone levels went from 200 to 900, which is higher than mine, I'm on HRT, probably something's up. What about the rock?

Do you think he's natural? Oh, he's absolutely not natty. Yeah. So I did a video. That's my first viral video ever was The Rock, and back when I had like 10,000 followers and I got like a million followers. And I said, The Rock isn't natural. I had the scars from his gyneumastic surgery.

And I said, Mark Wahlberg, also not natural. And I just had the phone in the kitchen. I was just like, look at him at his age and look at his chest and look at all this going on. And this was before he got even better now. It's more obvious. He's not natural now. He's 284 pounds at the, I just did another video on him. Is he actually 280?

284, he said. They said he's 6.5 and 284. That's what his words were. I don't know if that's true. He did a 12 week. I think he's not that heavy. That seems big. That's huge.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense to me. But they said he did a 12 week training program for WWE, and he had a full six-pack, leanest he's ever been. He's 53. I'm like, guys, he's not on, he's on everything. Not only do I not think he's natural. I don't think he's on HRT.

I think he's on the kitchen sink. Whatever he can take. Really? I think he's on all of it and then some. You don't get big like that into your 50. compared to your 40s and 30s. But you see some photos of him in his 30s. He's way bigger and leaner now.

Then you watch his little pussy workout. And he's like, did you watch this? I haven't seen it. I did a video. It's going to come out soon. So he's like, this is the rock. I'm going to go through my leg workout. And then he gets in there and you watch it with me.

He's like, this guy, he's like, look at the rock. You did like, look how hot this guy is. After seeing him work out, he's like, this guy isn't hot anymore. He had two plates on each side of the leg press. This is the waist. I'm like, it's his first set. He's warming up. No, he's stuck with that weight the whole time.

So he did this work. He's like, look how hard is 30 pound walking lunges. Two plates was every, every exercise. I'm like, is he a bikini competitor? And he's faking how hard it is. You know, like, oh, he's grimacing. I'm like, sounds like you don't like him because he's tall. I love the rock, which is the funny thing.

The rock is like, rock is my hero. But I'm like, he's lying and he's like, this is a foolish little workout. This is embarrassing. But I love the rock. The rock is like the coolest dude. He was the sexiest man alive one year. So I love them, but I've done like a dozen videos calling them out. But it's like, I don't hate him for it.

But it's like, come on. He's just training like a pussy. Why do you think in Hollywood, it's like they really avoid that? I think they're told that they have to. I don't think they're allowed to come out and say like, I do this and do that. I think they'd get blacklisted. They'd probably be like me with TikTok. Yeah.

We're canceling you. Why do you think there is that stigma around it, though? Like, why do you think they care so much? Like Hollywood. I wonder, it's somebody at the top. I think the people that make these decisions are probably, 60 years old. They don't know that the new society wouldn't really care that much.

Like, it's got to be in their contracts. You cannot talk about this. You cannot say this. You can't say, because you'd think, hey, you'd think the rocket at least say, hey, I go to an HRT clinic and I'm on low dose a test. Who cares? Who cares? Like, he's not even breaking the law at this point. So you think it

at least give us that, but they don't even do that. It's chicken, broccoli and rice, four workouts a day. That's what they're all told. And in 5,000 calories diets. I don't know why they do it. I think eventually somebody big, like the Rock, is going to have to come out and say,

this is what's actually going on, maybe after your tires or something, because something needs to change. Yeah, this is interesting. It's interesting how it's such a stigma. It started obviously the whole sports thing and the Jerry McGuire shit. Barry Bonds and Mark McGuire.

Yeah, that was huge. Mark McGuire, excuse me, yeah. Yeah, that was huge when I was growing up. That was like when it was like, this shit's the devil. Well, they started hitting like 70 home runs all the time and it was like look at the size of these guys and they found like I don't know

andrstein dione or something in mark McGuire's locker which was like some pro hormone type thing and is this these guys natural what's your opinion on that like the because pro hormones felt like the like modern day sort of SARMs now are like this it's not a steroid but it's like basically a fucking steroid yeah like SARMs are

way stronger than people believe SARMs are stronger than many of the steroids out there like if somebody says I'm just on SARMs I'm like well that's way stronger than like ANAVAR you're on 30 milligrams or rad one for. Like I was on SARMs. I was like, freak, this shit works like crazy. Why do you think people rationalize and they say it's not steroids?

Because they just want to say it's not theirs. Stereids are demonized. So anything not steroids is okay. And so when you're telling your girl and I've dated girls, um, yeah, I'm taking this. Do you inject? And it's like, if you say no, it's cool. I'm like, well, if I say I'm injecting testosterone, you use a needle. Oh, that's bad. I'm like, yeah, but this is way safer. It's prescribed by my doctor. And it's like, hey, but, oh, but if I say, say, oh, these pills, oh, it's just pills.

So just because it's pills is not bad. I don't know if they're thinking of like wreck drugs. If you're not like injecting, like it's like okay. Well, I think most people think of steroids is this, which is so funny because it's like, what? Yeah. So I think that it's because steroids have been demonized. So anything but steroids, it's better than that.

And so people are okay with it. Like that's funny, though. It's funny because there's so much more science like where you kind of know what's going on with the steroids versus. And there isn't a single girl that's against steroids in reality. they're not actually against it because when I show them who's taking it are you against steroids yes

and I said do you like this guy's look yeah he's in steroids no he doesn't look like he's not as big as the rock I'm like does it matter could you date this guy I would never date a guy on steroids no I wouldn't and then it's like your boyfriend's on steroids

like literally so they say one thing but in their mind steroids is Derek Lunsford it's Heidi Chopin it's these 250 pounds just monstrous men but in the reality of steroids is six foot 165 that's your steroid guy that's your typical lean athletic steroid user

is six foot 165 like so people are thinking six foot and 200 pounds those are monsters you're lean six foot 200 pounds you have a ton of muscle you're standing out people don't realize it in a real like my friends are using steroids they're they're not lean and they're 200 pounds of six foot it's like it's not that impressive but they think they're natural you know yeah steroids man they they're misunderstood just like you just like me just like us yeah absolutely look at us too I'm actually glad we got to have this conversation because I've seen your shit for so many years on the internet man I've always kind of wanted to talk to you I always wondered how you were like you know off camera which you know I get the I get the blessing I'm

step off here to talk to you but when you came up to me short yes but also very very warm you know and I just want to say that before we ended the podcast I just want to let you know I appreciate you come in and spending the time with me today for yeah I was I've been looking for it for a long time too. I knew I'd get here eventually. Yeah, yeah. For a long time. It's like, come to the U.S. and do these things. I'm like, can I tell these people that I'm a criminal and I'm like a criminal record and I like, I can't actually go? I'm like, yeah, I told you. I'm like, I can't actually go. So that, that ended? That ended what recently then? Like this year, I think I got permission like in September or so to be able to travel. Like I had three sets of

lawyers for a couple of years and applying. It was, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a process and I got a one year permit yeah which is so funny the whole thing it's funny a one year permit to be able to travel like and then um and that to apply again I went to the like the amount of shit I had to go through to get that like people if they only knew it's a lot of work guys you got it maybe you gotta talk to Drake or something but like yeah gotta let this go because that's stupid that's such a dumb charge hopefully they give me hopefully they let me into the states the next time like there's a I think they're gonna give me a five year permission thing the next time around that's crazy how

tight Canada is. And I mean, I'm employing like, I don't know if I've got like eight employees in this. I got employees around the world and my businesses are in the United States. Like my warehouses are in Texas. So all my companies, I'm paying taxes in I think 13 states. Like if you have a certain amount,

yeah. If you make a certain amount of money in a certain state, they tax you on top of that. And then there's, it's like that in Canada too, different problems have to pay more tax. To me we're 54% tax off the top. So a million dollars I'm paying $540,000 in tax.

Then when I go to buy, something I'm paying 15% tax and like when I bought my McLaren there's a 20% surcharge it's called a what is it called a luxury tax I I this is a whole conversation I don't even want to get into because I hate it with such a passion your taxes here would be so much less I would immediately have like a net worth of it would be like a third up just from moving the states yeah it's like think if you buy a million dollar car I have to pay 150,000 in tax plus the 200,000 on top of that extra so it's 350,000 plus to get that million car. I had to take out two million because I had to pay $108,000 or $1.08 million whatever

dollars. So $2 million have to make to get $1 million, but I actually have to pay $350,000 more. So I have to actually make $2.7 million to buy a $1 million car, which is going to go down in value as soon as I drive off the lot. So I was thinking about getting a body and I was like, uh, maybe buy houses. I did just buy another house actually. I only own two, but yeah. I have a really big house where I'm at and I'm like living alone right now. Well, I got a chef that lives in the basement, outside from that. You got a chef in the basement? Yeah, from Columbia. Yeah. That sounds amazing actually. It's good for cooking foods. Like, yeah, she's great chef. Like all, like meals all day? Yeah. Oh, wow. That sounds amazing. And see, the thing, like,

when I started becoming more popular on social media, I got some advice. You're like, Greg, anything that you can hire out to do to make more content do? So like, if it costs you 25 bucks an hour to get somebody to do something to go grocery shopping for you to fucking like to anything and it gives you an extra hour a day then that's an extra hour you can make a video that you make like say I make an average of a thousand dollars per video that I make well that's it you're making a thousand dollars an hour and you're paying somebody $25 an hour to allow you to make that thousand dollars and so the the um I don't know what the economic profit that is so high it's like do it so I stopped making coffee I

stop going to the store I stopped shopping I stopped ordering I stopped book plane tickets. I stopped basically living as a human being and sourcing it out. It's interesting because it's kind of weird too. But that's how I've been able to make 3,400 videos in that short of time. Like I was like, for a while I was working 100 hours a week. I was coaching people and I was like, I can't do all this stuff. So yeah. But having all this stuff like the cooking, like how many people like it takes an hour day to cook and meal prep. If you're like serious about eating healthy and good quality foods. I'm just like page 45 make me whatever like surprise. surprised me.

You're open the cookbook and make me some cookies. You were so dedicated to that cookbook. It's insane. The cookbook is it. Holy shit, dude. Yeah. On that, no,

I think that's how we end it, man. Fucking go find his cookbook. Obviously, Greg used that everywhere. Yeah. I'm all over the place. Yep.

Yeah. Just type my name and you'll find something. Good or bad. Probably a bit of both. It's all good. The more bad to better. Yeah, we're going to figure,

I actually have some funny click dates for this podcast already. Awesome. I thought about it. As we were doing, I was like, oh, this would be funny. Anything higher than your doctor's dose? Like, I take 140.

My prescription says 160. So I take less than the prescription of my doctor because I'm like, ah, my blood work, I'm like, 800 nanograms, just, I'm like, this is good. I don't need more. But if I need more in a couple of years, I'll go up to 160. Yeah.

So anything, if I take 200 to me, that's a cycle. So I'm like, that's abuse. I see. So it doesn't take much to get into the abuse levels. Yeah, but the levels you were talking about, like running, like how long were you running that stuff for that? Like 16 weeks would be a contest prep cycle, but trend would be eight weeks.

I'd save for the last eight, but it would be like, 400 would be like minimum for a trend cycle for me. Like a little bit, I look awesome. But then if I add a zero to that dose, it doesn't make much difference. Yeah. And so that's the thing with genetics. You can have genetics for low dose gear

and gain like, say, 20 pounds on HRT. There's genetics for that. Then there's genetics for high dose gear. So some guys will grow like a weed on 200 milligrams of test, but then they double it and they go on everything. They're on 3,000 milligrams. And they only gain a little bit more muscle. some people they don't gain anything on a little bit on a high amount they gain a lot some people don't gain much on low or high and you're saying this just based off of your experience with people and working with people and knowing like knowing those numbers there's genetic like I've seen guys I put them on cycles and I know the stuff was good because they're using the same stuff as I'm using and they put on like eight pounds in like six months and they're like so discouraged I'm like you just don't have genetics for it like how come I only put on eight pounds I did everything right I'm like yes you did but if you have a hundred people it's going to be in a bell curve so there's some people are going to be in a bell curve so there's some people are going to

to go 20 pounds some people can only gain two some people are just extreme outliers they look at a steroid and they gain muscle it's just the same with the gym so some guys a little bit of gear they grow like crazy and some guys they need a lot some people can't grow no matter what and it's sad but the problem is the most people with like shitty genetics they can take anything and do anything train eat perfectly and they're gonna look like shit no matter what yeah how do you tell somebody that i just say look you have shitty genetics get good at cardio find happiness and something else

you know find happiness and something else is crazy it's true though like really if you are the best soccer player in the world would you care about being able to deadlift 500 pounds

probably not if you were the best singer in the world you gives you shit 500 pounds I can sing and I don't give you shit if I could if I was really good at chess chess master

I don't care I can't live with as long as you're good at something yeah I see what you're in an artist a singer. So if you just suck at weightlifting, you really want that bod, like, just be good at something else. Yeah. Find something else. Maybe learn Spanish. Or buy his cookbook. We're out of here. No, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, man. Every Tuesday, 11, I love you guys. Subscribe to the channel. We're out of here. I'll see you guys next week. That was dope, bro. Awesome. Yeah, that's cool.