RAWTALK - Bradley Martyn talks faith & the no fap challenge with his sons

Episode Date: February 1, 2022

Come hit the gym with these two RAWGEAR athletes Alex Eubank and Haddy Abdel! They drop the weights and talk about the many things that brought them to fitness and the challenges they faced. These guys talk about the gym, relationships, anxiety, social media, taxes and their soul purpose in life.SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://vm.TikTok.com/TTPdQbEqVX/FOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

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i'm not high i'm chilling yeah no you were i was thinking about okay i'm chilling have either of you guys guys been on a podcast before uh like the one at like the rock like back in uh oh yeah Dallas okay the one the one in Dallas yeah Dallas what would you guys talk about bro my dad made me get off of it because they talked about too many inappropriate things and like this podcast like but it was like it was like it was like only like I don't know like it was like that's like all it was my dad was like he didn't want me to like portray that on my social media because obviously like like we could talk especially about that i feel like it'd be a good topic uh like a target audience being like younger kids and trying to be a

positive somewhat positive role model to them so like it was it was two when i started blowing up so i didn't want to like you know what i mean and i didn't want to like be associated like just it was just anywhere from selling drugs you were on it too right don't you talk about like closer you got to get that close to your mouth yeah you got to be like this with it all yeah yeah Yeah, well, yo, do not. Yo, we just got done to talk about kids and, like, for kids that you don't do such shit like that right now. But go ahead. Just like random topics, like things that you don't, like there was no productiveness in that.

Yeah, yeah, I didn't help anybody out. That's not what this is, no way. So introduce yourself real quick to the people who don't know. Go first. My name is Hattie. I'm from Jersey, 23 years old. Yeah. What else?

You always seem so much, excuse me, you seem so much older to me, not like physically like you look older. but you always seem so much more like, I think you're always like 27. Yeah. I mean, obviously, I know you're not. Yeah. But you come across that. Yeah, I don't know.

I think that's better. I think maybe just a little bit more mature in the way that I portray the content. I really think about what I put out and how people are going to receive it. So I think that might play a role in that. Yeah. What about you?

Go ahead. My name is Alex Eubank. I love the formalness. I am 21 years old from Baltimore, Maryland. It sounds like we're going on like a shitty dating scene. That's fucking dope. That's like, what else? Also known as the Greek God, also known as Timothy, also known as.

Timothy, what is that, Timothy? That's my legal name, also known as Gris on, uh, 9-U-U-U-Sk. Why don't you go by Timothy? My dad's name's, my mom didn't want to get us confused, so she called me by my middle name, which is Alexander, but Alex, but, yeah. So your fucking first name is Timothy. Timothy Alexander, Timothy, Alexander, Eubank, yep. And you're just like, fuck that name?

No, it's because I didn't want to, like, people call my dad, like, hey, Tim, or, like, they call him Tim, and, like, it's just, You don't want to be Tim Jr.? They call me that sometimes. Yeah. I'm like, Alex is cool though. Yeah.

So let's talk about this. You guys obviously too rugged athletes, two fucking up and coming people in the space. What is like the thing that you think? And you can go one or the other, whoever wants to go first. You guys can just call out whoever wants to answer first. What are some of the things that are most important to you

in like making this kind of content and trying to, like you said earlier, put some kind of positivity out there right because you know jokes and shit and all that stuff's funny and that's cool to get people and hear people listen and laugh but like what what does this mean to you to be able to have that sort of impact on the younger generation can't go real quick for me like the biggest thing like i keep i was talking my dad out this recently is like realizing what i what i'm here for or like what i want to like accomplish in this world like being like being like really successful and having like a lot of like the money cars like it's cool right

like obviously you make good money like doing this stuff yeah but like i i i I also want to have a, my main thing is just having, like, a huge impact on what I'm, like, what I'm doing. That's why, like, I didn't go in gear as I was, like, contemplating it because I'd make more money. And I was like, why would I do that? Like, I have so many kids following me. I have the potential to change so many kids' lives and teenagers and stuff for the better. If I'm on that platform, like, why, like, I need to do it. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I want to be known for that. Like, when I get one DM from a kid, just telling me how I'd help change his life or help him come to Christ or something. That alone gives me more, like, sense of worth than, like, $2,000 or something like that. You see what I'm saying? I want to make sure I implement that in every single aspect of my content to make sure that I impact these kids, whether it's helping them get out of anxiety, depression, helping them find their faith in Christ, like any of that stuff has like literally, it gets me so hyped up. I love it.

Yeah, yeah. I directly relate to that. I'm curious, like, what made you feel that way, though? Like, what in your own personal life made you be like, this is why it's important to me? Like, so my, like, life story video, which, like, people, like, blew it up on my YouTube did really well. I came from, like, a past. I struggled a lot with, like, anxiety and depression, like, really bad.

I have like voice memos of me saying like I put on my social media so I could show them it was true of me saying how I was gonna I wanted to kill myself and stuff or all I don't know if I'm allowed to say it on here or not say whatever you want yeah um basically I had like no word that was introverted I was only child parents with the divorce first girl I ever talked to she passed away um while you were with her oh yeah as soon as we started like dating in high school what the fuck what how you died bro she had a she she she she she I think it was a septic sepsis or something so I'm like she had a seizure and And it, like, all her messed her brain up. And she was put on a, like, life support from the seizure. It was, like, a freak accident. Oh, fuck. And she didn't make it, bro. And it was like... Did something happen to her that caused the accident, like, the cause the seizure?

I think they didn't... I don't remember, like, hearing, like, a full story. But I think after I heard something about her being, having some type of, like, infection. And then maybe having, like, meds to take for it. And I don't think she took all the meds. And then the infection came back stronger and then went to her blood. Oh, fuck. Something like that.

That's intense, dude. Yeah, so that... In high school to, like, go through that way. Oh, no, it torched me up, especially after, like, middle school dealing with, like, my parents' divorce and stuff. It was, like, it was really bad. And I, like, especially being an only child, I'd no one to go to or talk to. So, like, it messed me up. So I was, like, always down bad.

And then I had issues with anxiety, like, severely, severe anxiety, like, derealization. People have ever heard of that. Yeah. It's like, you feel like you're dreaming. Like, things aren't real. I've been there. And it, yeah? And it freaks you out, bro.

And it was, like, everywhere I went. And I had it every single time. That's why I wanted to kill myself because I could do it. Was it in relationship to the fact that, like, obviously, like, the, you know, through the divorce stuff and, like, losing the girl, was it in relationship to, like, the fear of something happening to you? Like, what was triggering it? I think, I think it's just part of it. I just felt like, like, like, sometimes I just feel like, like, life wasn't real. I don't know.

I just felt like it wasn't like, and I'd get upset, too, because I'd be like, why is this happening to me? I would look like other families. Even, I couldn't even go on vacation because I would look at other family, happy families or, like, girlfriends and boyfriends. Be like, like, damn, like, why can't I have that? I'd be, like, alone. and I just get sad and stuff because I'd see people like having families. Yeah.

And I like didn't have that on my own. You know what I mean? So I, I, I went through that. And then I started getting into, I remember I lost 20 pounds because of how bad my anxiety was. I wasn't able to eat food. And then I remember I started listening to worship music, like Christian worship music.

And I played guitar. How old age was this? 19. Okay. 19 started playing guitar. And then it kind of started drawing me closer to God. And I started going to church. And one of the,

my church, we had a Christmas service and the pastor said, one of like the things of the message was like the Lord God who brings back the outcast. It was like the message of our sermon. And I always felt like an outcast in life. So when he said that, I was like, this like really spoke to me. And I remember I made the decision to get baptized. And I got baptized by tattoo was January 5th, 2020, got baptized.

That was the year when I started doing social media, doing content. And completely I went from having panic attacks 24-7 to literally like being able to like go to L.A. Like it's so crazy how quick it happened to. And that was the most successful year in my life where I was able to completely turn that. where I had the issues and helping people with those exact issues started playing worship music

I played guitar and like would sing a little and I would just sing the worship songs and like I would cry as I sing them because I like I felt it I felt like God there with me

and I felt like I always was missing that like somebody else in my life and I would feel God there with me every single time I would sing those words and I would relate to them easily

and it would like it would break me down I would just cry I would just cry I'd pray crying and stuff because I would just like it was so much bro and I don't even know

to explain it do like there's some songs man is just like is your whole family like Are they religious? My dad is. I get it.

My dad's like very, very, my dad's a reason why I am what I am. Yeah, I see. So like this, the feeling, like you talk about crying, like, because you feel this, right? What, like, describe that feeling? Because someone listening is like, what the fuck is this kid talking about? They don't know, right? Bro, like, imagine, like, being like a middle school, like being like a little kid again. And like you, like, you did something so good.

Like, let's say, like, you're playing, like, a baseball game. or something and like you like hit like the home run like to win the whole baseball game like like your dad's like saying how proud he is of you and like you're just so overwhelmed with like feelings of like like it's like like my father like my god is so proud of me almost and he's so loving and it's just like so overwhelming to me that I just I cry because of the joy it's just so overwhelming. I'm a very emotional person and like it's not a bad cry it's just like a cry of like overwhelming love and like that I'm not alone and he's like right there with me like holding my hand and being so proud of me as I'm there worshiping him and it's like

It's just like so deep, bro, and I just start crying because I'm like, damn, dude. Like, even thinking it, I'll start tearing up. You know what I mean? That's why I got to stop because I'll cry. It's interesting to me. It's like, it's reminds me of my life from my childhood and my whole father, this whole situation I was losing when I was young. And, like, when you say you started to find, like, I guess, solace in, like, the church

and the things that you were doing, and then you feel this feeling that you were, like, looking for. And now it's like you're giving, not necessarily that feeling to young adults, but, like, you're inspiring other young men to, like, do certain things or to look for themselves like maybe in that way, right, religiously or whatever, right? And it's interesting to me because like that's like that story of my life is related to directly going through something, wanting something that I didn't have, seeing the thing that I didn't have. And then like eventually somehow along the way I ended

up becoming the thing that I always wanted that I never had. And I just think there's so much power in that. And I'm just grateful that there's people who, you know, talk like this and share this kind of shit because it's not super common, especially in the industry. that's you know it's driven from male hormones and fucking testosterone and being strong and looking good or being stronger than this guy or better than that guy or more aesthetic people are afraid to be it be like vulnerable yeah yeah i think this i think this industry is is like it's it's refreshing to have someone like the new guys coming up such as yourself and such as you that is like trying to share a message that is more than like oh just like you got to yeah you got

to be tough you got to be like yeah be out for all this shit right and like i like i get that vibe too i understand that because like that's dope regardless right but the thing that's going to change someone's life like like their heart their fucking soul is is a is a deeper connection with themselves and whether it be with uh you know some some sort of religious figure or just like a just what their true purposes in life and like like a direction that they can go in whether or not like and guys listen you don't need to know that at any specific time in your life but it's almost like i'm just urging people to start to try to look for it and i think you're out of find it bro i feel like everybody everybody has a hole in their heart right everybody i believe everybody has a hole in their

heart and then as a christian i believe i believe i believe jesus fills that that whole in your heart and that's what happened to me and i just had like i was i wasn't fulfilled in life and i never got to like drugs and drinking and stuff like i always had my morals and stuff so i never was like that but i always just felt like i was missing something and i'm so happy to have found it and because i found it i want to tell everybody about it yeah i was like for me it was i was like almost felt like purposeless like I was going through each day and I felt like I didn't have a purpose and that ate me a lot so I was like I feel like I have no impact how about so at what age was this at like 16 to this was like 20 like this was like this was like graduate in college okay this was like I was like I was

studying engineering and I graduated with a bachelor in civil engineering but I didn't have didn't want to do it at all yeah I was it kind of just appeasing what my parents wanted and I was playing soccer there so I was like I'll just sit here and do this and then after that I was like I feel like I have no purpose I felt like I was depressed and then as soon as I found a purpose with the fitness things I fell in love with training and once I had a purpose and every day was like my purpose was okay can I inspire people to make a transformation like I did can I inspire people to find a path just to find like happiness like I find happiness when I train like I can release myself so then I was like this is my purpose let me try

to get it to as many people is that and is it important to you because you found happiness in it for yourself saved me training saved me but I was like just like any I was just be down bad for no reason sometimes sometimes i'm explaining well just like i feel like i'm not worth anything and a lot of times it has to do with you seeing other people like on your phone yeah for sure it's so easy to fall into that like watching you know watch i mean if we just talk about social media in general for a second it's like it's become the biggest blessing and the biggest curse for so many people and it's it's changed the game like you know not just like you know we look at social media wise in general and like the rate at which information is

spreads like whether it's you know true or false or whatever this or that it's like it's also affecting so many young people because like dude when I was your guys's age like this shit wasn't existing yeah you know what I'm saying like I was making decisions based off like just shit in my current life and in situations that I knew and now it's like you can open up your phone and look at the success of like a kid who's five years younger than you and like has more money and you're like you you know or stronger or whatever you're like it can fuck with you no matter how you're like bro that shit messed me up i would like watch you know even if like it's other people like just anybody close far away but you seeing somebody else eat and like you're not eating

it could mess with you bro and then i made so many motivational speeches because i read a lot of self-help books at that time and like i would i made so many speeches to talk about like focus on watering your grass it doesn't matter if his grass is greener and eventually yours will eventually your flowers will come when they're ready yeah that's the thing people just are not always ready like not necessarily that they're not ready to receive but like they want their time to be sooner because they see someone else's time is like oh that's that person's time and it's like when is it mine because i remember growing up and like even as a little kid i would say this to my mom like when when is it my turn to like go to school i was always like the kind of i always had a personality

that was like let's go let's go let's go i want to do this i want to do this but like it's it's easy to get caught up in that especially like nowadays when it's like it's instant at your fingertips all day long if you're following certain people you're going to see their success which is great but it's like instead of using it to be like man what the fuck is going on with my life use it to motivate yourself and it's hard because like we're not taught how to do that properly yeah you know we're taught to like almost like attack ourselves in like in that we don't have enough or like we're not you know giving enough or we're not good enough to receive whatever that is it reveals your own insecurities it reveals like when you see if you if there's somebody else succeeding and

I think there's you're jealous it reveals your own insecurities but But you almost, like you said, you want to transform it into fuel. Like that's like fuel from me. Like, okay, I want to live like that. I'm proud of you. But now I'm going to get mine. I want mine. So what, I'll ask you guys about this.

What a personal experience that have you had where you remember a time when you're like, you let it draw you the negative way and then an experience you had where you, like, you're able to be like, all right, let me like, let me do this better instead of like let it take me down that way. Like a certain experience you had where you're like, you saw something. You're like, you let it bother you. Maybe not you don't have to name names or whatever. but, you know, a situation that you can personally relate to. Do you want to go or you want to be?

Bro, so, like, I don't know. I guess when I first started in social media stuff, bro, I'd see some people. And, like, loki, this is like, again, I'm always progressing in my relationship with God. I'm not a perfect person. So definitely some things I could have worked on more back then. But all of us, though.

Yeah. Yeah, but I just want to be like, because I definitely, I had an issue with judging people and stuff like that. And I might see somebody who would be doing better than me. Like, I'm not going to say the name exactly. I remember. And I'd be like, yo, like, my physique is way better than his. Like I always like an ego thing I need to do it

I'm like yo like my physique is better than him And I'm natural It's funny It's funny just because I know you're talking about Yeah But it's like It's comedy doesn't even matter It's just funny

Because we've had these personal conversations right Yeah yeah Not necessarily to put on the internet But like what do you think like made you Like why was that your initial response Because you didn't you don't just start out like Fuck these are you know Yeah I always like too

Like I always try to spread love to anybody No matter what Why do you think it bothered you? I was just because it's like Because you want it so bad. I'm like bro like I feel like I'm working harder and not getting the note like noticed yet I'm like bro like I'm doing this the right way

I'm being natural and I'm trying to be a good influence and like if I hop on gear I'll be way I'll be past you so damn quick But here's the funny part right This is the thing it's interesting that you say that And I think you've learned it to this point now That's truly not the main thing that matters right No it's not like that's the physical outside

That we're talking about like the stronger guy the better looking guy like the guy with maybe he's got longer better hair than you who knows right not a chance but it's like unlikely but my point is like there's at some point there's that guy but your connection with your like the people who are fucking with you is always based on that like actual dialogue that you have with them that is outside of that you know i feel like i've always been so good at that which is like help me like so much of this career like like i feel like that's all i've been good at yeah it's connecting with those who like really like rock with you you know what i mean like being able like bro like the people who support And I feel like a big part is how vulnerable I am with everybody.

Like I won't, I'll try to be the same way on social media as I'm a person and I won't hide anything from me. I would tell you the same things on social media about my life and just like literally open up to you like you like you're my personal friend, like the follower, like a fan or whatever it is, a follower. And it makes them relate to you and want to like support you even more. And I feel like that's like so key, bro. Like I know a lot of kids are trying to be like influencers or whatever now. And like, bro, that's like, that's like, of course people have way better physiques to me, but just relate. I feel like I've always been so good and relating to the people who actually want to support me. and treating them as friends and treating them not as fans always and i think it's just also like

appreciating the concept of like delayed gratification like knowing that if i do this for long enough it'll work you know what i mean instead of just because i was and touching on what he said i would do the same thing i would see people like bro this guy's a shit physique and he's blown up and i'm over here i get it i like and i would get mad but then i was like i said i was reading so many self-help books bro i read like 12 of them. So I was like just learning and like implementing and that was like the concept with the later gratification. Like the longer I wait for this, the more, the sweeter the fruit will taste if that makes

any sense. It's almost like holding a nut for a while. And you're just like when you finally get it, you're like, oh, that was great. You blow it's like a bigger load. We're on no fap right now by the way. Really? Yeah. Well, he's, he's not purpose.

I'm like purposely on it. Mine was just an accident. So like no fab doesn't mean like no fucking. For me it is. So for you just, it's just like. For me, I'm doing it not. It depends. If you're doing like no fat.

Okay. Well, hold on. You can still seem in retent, retent, retent, retention, uh, and fuck. No, no, no, the tense, what you're, what do you look? You just don't come. No, no, but if you're looking, like, I'm looking for not even just the physical mental benefit. I'm looking for the spiritual growth out of, out of what I should do in for my God.

You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Where, you know what I mean? Where it's like the levels of the fucking guy and it's like the bottom one is like, like, like the fucking, uh, the lights going crazy. Like, that's what you're trying to get. Well, not, it's like, because like, people do, like, no fat for like the benefits like better like basically like loki it seems like similar like a low dose test dose

no based on what people say i'm just saying like with the mental clarity the more energy the more traction to females and stuff like that but i'm doing it also for the for my like my religion's sake of like trying to get closer to god and realize and plus learning self control if you can like dial down self control and that's one of the hardest things you you don't realize you're addicted to something until you try quitting okay of course that's a fact so people don't think they're addicted to it try quitting but you'll see you're it's an addiction it can be bad for you like we talked about porn how bad that is yeah that's a whole different I had to stop watching.

Yeah, I canceled. Yeah, two months, porn free. Yeah, about like a year. I'm like fucking three months almost, four months. That's solid. Keep it up, bro. Really, like, it's, that stuff to your brain, your dopamine and all that. That's also, like, what no fab is, like, is up behind it.

But I'm, like, really trying to show myself. I have self-control. I'll put my God first and everything I had to do. And I'm really trying to, like, do that for, like, this year. Like, I have messed up plenty of times. But what if she's, like, so bad, though? Bro, because I, I, first off, like, I, like, I don't know, dude. What if she's like a baddie?

You're like, yo, she's a 10 out of 10 for me. Bro, see, good thing about I'm natural, bro, my test isn't, like, ridiculous, so I definitely don't have, like, the stupid, like, go to, like, extreme limits to try to you with a girl. She's like, she's super bad. Like, put it right in front of me. She's like, put it in my mouth, you know? Bro, like. And you're alone.

You're alone. There's no distractions. You're not doing it? Like, like, being, like, genuine, like, like, because I'm not going to be fake. I'm not, I'll be, like, not fake at all. Like, I don't know in that situation. It was brought to me. But, like, I generally feel like I'm trying to, like, strengthen my relationship with God and stuff.

I feel like I'm at the point where I can really, like, fight back. Like, fight the urges. And I want to have self-control over everything in my life. So then, so, okay, I get it. For how long do you think? I want to at least, I want to go as long as I can. But, like, my goal, like, short-term goal right now is, like, three months. But I want to go as long as I can until I, like, I legitimately, like, as stupid as it sounds.

Like, I hope I can stick to it because I have never been able to stick to it is, like, waiting until marriage with the next girl that I date. Damn. Like, I generally want to me. Wait, wait. You're talking about if you could not have sex until marriage? Yes. No. No, bro, because, like, I messed up so many.

I'm not a virgin. I've told my followers that, too. Like, I'm not perfect, bro. Like, that's one, like, the last thing. Well, no, it's perfect, dude. I know. But it's one of the last things is when I learn to follow Christ is I need to learn true repentance and I take advantage of his grace way too much, meaning, like, a lot

of Christians do that. Though, though, know that God, like, Jesus died on the cross to them so I can sin and just ask for forgiveness after and I'm fine. But that's an abusing grace. Hold on. Do you think God really doesn't want us to fuck? Well, it's in the right constructs of things. I believe that he puts things in place under the, under the right reasons.

I mean, like, such as things, for example, I would talk about like STDs, a spread of SCDs and the spread of, like, having, like, so many, like having a birth that you didn't want, stuff like that. Marriage is a, it's not that God wants you to wait until marriage, because there wasn't marriage technically in the biblical times. It was having intercourse with a woman, you were married in the eyes of God because that's how it would work. There wasn't a marriage ceremony. It was you had intercourse, and that was your covenant with God that you were married to this woman, if that makes sense. Yeah. Now we put it in fucking documents.

Yeah, yeah. But it's more of like having in the, like the confinement where it can be in a safe place. It's like one of the pastors that I watched, they kind of talked about like having a fire pit. Marriage is like the fire pit. If you don't have the fire in a fire pit, it can spread and it can cause other things like pregnancies, STDs, stuff like that. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So but I want to because I want to learn self-control and I want to learn to repent.

It says in the Bible, like, you need to repent. I don't want to be a Christian that's like a hypocrite, which I feel like I've always been and struggled with meaning I like preach this, preach this, but I'm struggling with it on my own. I want to actually show myself that I can do it and I can actually preach it and I want to be able to do it I really want to be hard and I don't know if it'll be able to do it but I really want to wait till marriage the next girl I know that's crazy I don't know about I've been sliding in DM's crazy yeah after day five yeah I was saying crazy stuff yeah in the comments my father you ain't go last you ain't go last I already know darned on TikTok my followers like oh we see you and then they would just like the comment and respond and so many times I used to be like that bad caught up I used to be bad with that I used to be bad with that last year oh my god okay sorry we let's get back to that question um we i wanted to give you a chance to answer it was about like what situation if any that you've had through your experience on this where you like super like man fuck i want that that person has you know like a personal experience like that yeah i mean it's very similar to what he said i would because i was like in tune with the fitness community before i was in the fitness community i was watching people i was following people

i was a fan yeah i was a fan before i was in the in the culture and then i would see people doing and doing well and like once again now like i think about it and like i'm like i was kind of dumb the way i thought about it but it was just like it was a jealousy that would get me like angry enough or it would throw me off for what i was doing yeah then you slack a little bit you know what bro i'm never going to have that that's not going to happen yeah um and then you know that like threw me off and i think just being exposed to it so much can mess with you you never have time to like sit with your thoughts if that makes any sense because you're always seeing what other people are doing Yeah, I mean, this is just like social media, the internet in general, too.

We're so caught up in, like, other people's lives, which is so crazy to me. Like, my mom will even send me, like, some shit you'll read on, like, e-news or something. And I'll be like, I don't give a fuck. Like, don't send this shit to me. I don't know. But, like, there are certain, you know, pieces of content that I do enjoy. It's become more like this form of content that I actually enjoy, like, consuming the most now at this point. Me too.

But, yeah, man, I don't know. It's an interesting concept. I just think, like, it's. It's crazy with kids nowadays because there's so much accessibility to so much good and so much bad. Yeah. Like so much. Like you have so much knowledge. Like what like kings and like queens of like old times like what like with having riches,

you had a lot of knowledge because it access like the scholars and stuff. Like we have that at the age of five years old. Instantly. You know what I mean? Like in like in crazy depth. Like it's and then also so much misinformation at the same time. Yeah. And we see it firsthand.

Like sometimes kids will come up to us be like, yo, I just want to be like you. I want to live how you guys. I want to come to L.A. And be with Brad and be a zoo culture and do all that. And it's like, yeah, we have our own problems too. You know what I'm saying? It's not, it's not all perfect. People think it's perfect, bro.

And I have a ton of fucking problems. Like, just straight up. What the fuck? So it's just like not everything is what, not everything you see is what's actually happening. So that's, that's key. This is the key. I'm glad you said that.

Like that is one of the most important things to be said for people who are listening. like you see the one side of social media the person's life is like it's likely going to be their fucking highlight real for the most part right because most of us want to put our best foot forward in that sense to show people like we're doing stuff not that we're not you know there's tons of moments where I know you and I know I've done and you've done tons of content like this as well where it's like you're sharing your hardship and you're not afraid to hide it which is the whole point about being vulnerable being raw and it's like I just think not enough people are doing that i think there's so much more still focused on the side of like i'm fucking tough

i'm looking for validation people are afraid to be just open they're afraid to be judged and like i like one of the things i actually talked about this in one of my youtube videos i was going to the gym and i just had a thought like on the way the gym was like bro like people look up to this whole thing of like in the industry or like in fitness of being like the big alpha being like alpha being like dope being tough bro people are scared to be humble that's what i love about like my faith and stuff is i'm like not afraid to be humble to my god i'm not afraid to talk about i'm not afraid to go on my knees and pray to him and like it's a thing of being submissing it's like act of submissing you never think of a tough guy submissing being submissive to someone right yeah

but i feel like it's key to to being humble it keeps you humble in life like i'm not gonna be like i'm not going to walk up in a gym like yo i'm so dope i'm the toughest guy in this gym i'm like i swear 99% of the time the guy who's the loudest or pretend he's the toughest he's never yeah and like the toughest dude is never going to go to a gym be like i'm better than you bro, I'm stronger than you. That motherfucker just is. And he's not going to like, like a real person who really is that. He's not going to make someone else feel like they're not that.

Uh-huh. You know what I'm saying? And that's the thing that I find interesting. I see it so much on social media nowadays. I'm like, why is this fucking, like, toxic like shit is popular? You feel like you have so much to prove. And that's just, like, it roots from insecurity. But like the real tough guy doesn't, you'll, you would just tell.

Like, I feel like there's certain people, there's an aura when they walk in the room. You can feel it. You know what I'm saying? And they don't have to say anything, but you know, you know what I'm saying? They kind of get their respect like that. I think it's the way you carry yourself. You know what I mean? Yeah.

One of the things you told me that like suck with me is how like anything you were talking like building like a longevity in business like anything like all that negative like doesn't help anything. It's not bound to be like have longevity to it. If you want to like to have longevity be successful in the long run, you should build it around positivity. Well, it's not sustainable. Right.

So if if my popularity is based on talking bad about you as an individual, then it's like, okay, let's say I've done it. I've talked all the shit about. you now what do I it's like it it's just you're relying on something that is it's temporary because it's not genuine of yourself it's an outward like attack on something else so that you look like a I've dealt with this countless times in this industry but it's an outward attack so it someone could be like I'm fucking cool look at me I'm a cool guy I talk shit about that guy I'm cool and I'm better because like I'm talking bad about him and like the audience would be like yeah

you're fucking cool and it's like it's like what the fuck but but the thing about it's funny is like long the long picture the long game is like now if you if that's how you got people riled behind you through negativity and hate eventually those people are going to grow up and be like this shit's not cool anymore because anyone who's truly truly successful is not looking and being like oh man that's cool talking shit about those guys like no one successful is like yo you're just a piece of shit like fuck these people it doesn't work that way and people grow out of that and it's also like if i'm shooting at someone else then like my my actual direction the thing that's like probably like truly fulfilling me or like my true purpose is like it's not

that it's not attacking other people it never will be and you're constantly like what are you going to just keep finding people to talk shit about so that you can get people around you instead of like some genuine message that actually matters to you nobody on the Forbes list talk about people on the Forbes list no it's only losers it's weird the social meeting nowadays people rather tear people down to like make themselves look like a hero or feel better about themselves yeah yeah but people love that shit they feed into the hate like if you we could all watch a movie and be like it's great and there's always that one person like no fuck that movie and then 10 more people yeah yeah bro it makes it's like it's like football rivalries are so

popular than people like watching like the rival games or just the regular games or people love it when it's like you're pinned against each other it just gets everybody way more hyped up you know what I'm saying yeah like I don't know what it is I understand this I just think the long term is like if you could develop a real meaning and like a real message for people that you're like trying to share your content with or what matters to you then like yeah maybe you don't get as many people behind you at one time but like slowly over time like they stick around because like there's real meaning there there's genuine connection yeah one one thing i want to mention is like i forgot who i was talking to exactly but it was oh we were talking about like for example uh kyle kyle i think

asked me like is it better to go live on instagram live or ticot live for example and what i explain to him is that ticot live you'll get a bunch of different viewers but they're not legitimate followers when i go live on instagram or even twitch which is even more of a small like my really like loyal followers yeah i'm talking to way less people but those are the people who are like my like they're my ride or die type group and if you get a solid group even if it's a lot smaller number but they're like you're ride or die like people to back you you're gonna be so much more successful in life yeah than having a huge amount of just maybe a few maybe like really rock with you that's why I see so much people like huge following is maybe on TikTok and stuff but

they're not like doing good I mean I've said this so many times I feel like in podcast it's like if you got a thousand people genuinely fucking with you and this is not a million this is not two million it's not three it's not 500 thousand a thousand people to really fuck with you and what you're doing over the course of like two let's say three years and if say you sold a product you you will become a millionaire straight up if you got a thousand people to consistently like you know buy in and invest in to you buy everything that you create yeah let's say whatever right you will become a millionaire and it's it's crazy because to most people it sounds like insane like to become a millionaire i i don't know most people but it sounds

it sounds kind of very difficult very difficult hard to get to that level right possible but but a thousand people is really not that many people if you really look at it in reality so it's just a matter of like how can you connect with not i'm not saying just go connect with a thousand people but like how can you truly connect with people and again i had this conversation with with gavin at the gym um it's like i for example when i was like making content back in the day i knew that me lifting the girls or like doing the crazy like strength shit or the athletic shit like would get people in but i also knew that like i wouldn't be the last guy in the world to be doing any of that kind of stuff because people could just start mimicking that

copying that whatever because it's like they saw it at work right but i i I always knew that casting a big net was always, like, was always important because let's say I got a million people to look. And then let's say like a thousand or five thousand of those million people, 10,000 were like ready to like look further into me. And then like a thousand of those five thousand were like actually interested in like maybe something I was saying in a video. They just didn't get as many views. But it actually meant something to them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Like that's where the true power is. So you cast this big net, you get people in to look. And I just hope that, you know, you have something good to share along the way. Yeah, I would make, like, a lot of, like, I do a lot of the motivational videos on TikTok where I'll just speak. I'll be sitting in my car, I'll put my camera down, and I'll just talk. And what happens a lot is there's a lot of people. There's a huge group of people who will be like, this is so cringe. Of course.

I don't want to hear it. And then there's a lot of people who are like, bro, like, I love you for this. Like, thank you for this. I need to hear this today because a lot of out, thank God, this is on my for you page. So, like, sometimes, like, and then I'll take those people and I'll just keep drilling them with the same message. Yeah. Or just whatever I go through on a daily base. something something will happen to me I'll learn from it and I'm like video yeah exactly that's exactly

I've always made content and this is the reality man like like like I said earlier everyone's time is not always the same so someone's going to see that and be like this is stupid this is cringe they're not ready for that message yet yeah you know what I'm saying like it's not for you to determine it's not for it's just it's just that's how it is and other people are they are and they're going to be there for that and continue to be there for that but like it's just important to know like if you're trying to make content on the internet you guys or anyone listening if you continue to act in a way that's genuine of self and you continue to share the thing that's important to you

you shouldn't be so concerned with like I got it I need it all right now I want everyone to understand me right now because like you can't force that just like any relationship I can't be like this has to fucking work because I feel this or I really want this or I really believe this or I really feel this it's just not it just doesn't work the way no transaction between any humans like intimately relationship wise friendship business wise cast to just go like it doesn't just work right like people have to be ready to receive people have to be ready to hear so like i'm just saying

to people listen if you you know you get down on your content because you said something that you were like yo that meant so much to me because there's so many videos i made that i was like yo i crushed that video and it's like the least amount of views videos i i got posted right but the people who are like yo this really fucking meant something to me that's that's the reason why you're doing it yeah that's key in my faith so about like for example when i do like my christian type videos i always call it's like planting seeds i'm not going to force it on you and be like like how like some like old school like like hard christians be like oh you're going to hell if you don't believe this and that it's all about god calls us to plant seeds meaning i'm not going

to like be the one to bring you to the faith i'm just going to tell you about my experience with it tell you like what it did for me and if you want to look into it and see if that happens to you it's planting the seed god's the one who changes you not me do you see what i'm saying especially too and people like say oh they look up to me or like like alx you changed my life i'm like it wasn't me it was god it's so funny i say the same thing to kids but they don't reference God because I don't talk much about that like you do but I'm always saying the same thing to them back I'm like well I just said some shit and you applied it you know what I'm saying like I didn't change you it's just good you're humble I've heard that for years though but it's like that

it's like dude the person listening like you have to make that change doesn't matter whatever anyone fucking says whatever we say on this podcast like it does matter but to you until you like make it a part of your life and you fucking put the effort in you apply it yeah you actually apply it then then the change happens right yeah which is crazy because Because, like, I just want to make this note, I'm sorry, I'm going to cut you off. It's crazy because this, this, like, idea of the change being applied can happen regardless of if you hear that message from Alex or that message from Hattie or that message from me. The crazy thing is, like, for some reason, people need to hear it sometimes.

But the, the crazier thing is you already have that power. Everyone listening, you already have that power. It's like someone else just kind of switched something for you. But I'm just saying this to say, like, you have the power to change your life no matter what. It's just like sometimes you just need to look at it a little bit differently, whatever the thing is. I feel like you look at someone you kind of watch. You like their content. Hey, Alex, I like watching your, how to get a bigger chest videos and then you see something like that.

Or like what hair conditioner you use, Alex? You know, like those kind of questions, man. I fuck it with you. I love trolling you. Yeah, I know you do. Pretty boy, dude. You got to troll them a little bit. They always like, they always say like, oh, yo, the people die me like,

you'll, please drop another motivational video. And I'm like, bro, you don't need me to drop me to drop. another motivation of whatever sparked you to get going that's what's going to get you going right but then but then it's all up to you i have nothing to do with the rest of that yeah people people need reminders though yeah sometimes yeah but you people always ask me like what it like how do you how do you say so motivated make contact i'm like i don't know i just i just like i just like maybe needed some motivation but after you make it a routine it's just like i don't know it's part of my everyday thing you know what i mean and like they honestly like people like they they they're the ones that

motivate me bro i don't know if you see my wall in my basement i have a wall in my basement i printed out and cut out messages of DMs and comments of people saying, oh, I helped their life. I saw that. You told me that. Yeah, you showed me. I wasn't in your basement, though. I just wanted to make that clear.

I wasn't in his basement. You know, I wasn't like, what's going on in your basement, Alex? That's so motivating to me. I don't get jaded to it. Yeah, and I had Brad over. I had Brad over.

My mom likes you, she has a crush on you. The first time I came out here, he talked. Shout out of Alex's mom. I'm sure she's really sweet. Yeah. What's her Instagram?

I don't know if she's got one. I think she's in my request of DMs. I don't know if I follow her back yet. Really? I don't know if she has Instagram or not. I think I saw her in my DMs, but. How does she find your shit then? How does she find my shit?

She's on YouTube? She definitely watches my stuff. Okay. She definitely supports it. She's a supporter. Thank you, Mom. I appreciate it. That's dope.

She uses my code, I think, or my dad does too. They all use my code, actually. Look at this guy's. This guy's a marketing genius right here. I love it. I love it. Go ahead. My fault.

No, you're good. You got me dying, though. You've plugged the fucking code. Oh, yeah. Do you get jaded to it? to like to people saying that like those DMs because like for me I mean it's only been like what a year since I've been doing it but still like every time I get a message that like certain messages and if they're long I'll screenshot and put on my story I'm like this like this like makes me I screenshot a lot of stuff yeah I do and you're being jaded in the sense of like because like there's a lot of people think like there's a lot of people who've been doing this for as long as you were like people come up to them or the send a message and it's just like whatever now at this point oh no no no no no because because like my purpose has evolved so much and it's like it's so directly aligned with the messages that I receive yeah um and again I didn't know this from the very beginning like when I set out to do these

things because there wasn't examples of any of this shit when I was doing it um but like that's the whole the whole point of everything that I do and that's why like even this kind of content I mean look at this this is just like what can you get out of this content that's just like not really good there's not much here it's all good like everything we're talking about we're trying to encourage positive we're trying to encourage growth you know i maybe made some dumb jokes about like conditioning your hair or whatever no this is gonna change at least one person's life but like yeah so it's like that's the only thing that i wanted in my life was the things that like people now are telling me like you're you doing this for me so that would never get old for me because like that's i've

you know at 32 years old now have realized okay this is my purpose bro bro that's key is finding your purpose i always tell you late like how do i get out of anxiety depression like like biggest thing that really helps me is like having purpose bro like but it's tough it's tough because I didn't realize my purpose until I was 26. So it took me 20 years. Like this whole like, you know, my father taking his life when I was six and then me just like struggling with this the whole time until I was about 26 and I've done the social media now.

I started to get all these messages, all the response to my. Holy shit. Like these people are congratulating me or thanking me or being like, yo, you're this thing that I. And I was like, wait, this is, they're saying I'm the thing that I was looking for when I was young. Yeah, it's deep. So it's like that that's the ultimate.

It's like that's what all the thing I want to get more of. So it's like, I'm just at a point where I'm like, man, if I can just keep doing more of this and be better at this and like that's what this is, right? Like this type of content to me is just how could I define that purpose from myself better and give more of that, you know, in different ways and learn more? Because all I've done truly in my content over the time besides like lift some girls and like look cool or like look shredded or be strong, whatever was talk about my life and where I've been and what I believe and what I feel and I've been through. That's why I fucked with you a lot. first met you i remember and even this weekend you did it with um was seen the one of our friends that like was a fan it was a fan we met him um you spent like 30 minutes talking to him like oh yeah on the corner with him for 30 minutes oh that was by the uh yeah and i was like i was like

with brad being the type of guy he is and how busy is the fact that he's taking 30 minutes to do that i need to emulate that i need to be like that because i'm nowhere like i need it was something for me where i watched it from a distance and i was like i can't say anything bad i cannot say I respect that. Yeah, I appreciate it. I have a question for you guys. This is really random.

Since you guys are talking about purpose and you guys are mad young still, like 22, 21? 21, yeah. Yeah, so you guys are young and then Brad is old obviously 32. Fuck you.

Okay, anyways. It's all good. I love it. So for someone, like you guys are so young and you guys, you know, feel that you are confident that you found your purpose.

For someone who's older, like looking at you guys like coming up in the social media space, like how do you think or what are your suggestions on how someone, could find their purpose in the older like you know they're not in the social media world like how how did you guys find it for to motivate someone else to do it does that make sense yeah yeah i feel

like like overall like i feel like the meaning of life is like at the end of the day that comes down to like like love it's hard to explain i'm glad you said that like that's the exact answer yeah i generally think it's it's love and and and you can find kind of your purpose off of little parts of how can you implement love into whatever maybe your passion is. I feel like a lot of things I try to tell people to do is like find your passion like what do you passion like doing like you have a hobby do you like racing cars do you like lifting how can you turn that into something that is loving and helpful and beneficial to society and that will give you a purpose good when you see yourself loving others and people's lives changing because of you or anything if that's just

like an example for like me you find your purpose and that's where you like I need to keep doing this gives me so much sense of worth like before like when I like the anxiety depression issues to have like no worth if like nobody needed me in my life like I was like I could just off myself and like no one who cares nobody needs me now it's like I could never do that because I got all these kids I'm changing their lives I'm like like like and they like look up to me I'm like why I gives me so much more worth and I'm like I want to live as long as I can because the more lives I can impact the better and I know this is going to impact somebody's life and that's like gets me so excited like this could save somebody's life you know what I mean

yeah I guarantee there's at least one kid yeah and it's dope because with the with the supporters or people that look up to you it allows you to hold yourself to a higher standard. Like I think about things that like some dumb thing I would have did before doing this is now is like now that I have purpose and now that I know people are watching it. It's more like I'm trying to be not only portray the positive thing but actually do the positive thing. Yeah like not being hypocrite. It's easy to it's easy to it's easy to post the positive things and say yeah this is what I do and then do on the side like just be completely different. I try to like whatever I'm portraying I want to be that. Yeah. I'll get some Christians like judging me my DMs like yeah

It doesn't know me, but I'm like, yeah, maybe you're right. You need to change a little bit. That's why, like, for example, I'm doing, like, there's no fat for as long as I can stuff because I really, like, want to try to live it and, like, not be a hypocrite with anything. Yeah, I love it, man. I love the answer of love because ultimately, like what Alex said, love is the ultimate currency. Like, we all do everything to feel love, to share love, like within ourselves and outward, right? It's like everything we do, you literally are trying to have that feeling and share that feeling.

Even if it's like we're talking about people trying to make money because they think like maybe when maybe when they make money it'll bring them closer to like a female counterpart or whatever whatever you're into it's like it's the idea of I'm to have this success not just for the success and for the money but for like what they think it's going to give them Yeah, which is largely almost always related to the feeling of love like always so everything that we do right even sex is like a different derivative of love it's not like the exact like line but I'm saying like intimacy. Yeah. we do that to try to find love feel love like give love share love that's the ultimate currency we are constantly trying to do that so the person who's asking this question like you know if you're older or younger it doesn't matter like you have to start trying to align yourself with things in your life or like you know activities that like you you feel real love in doing and like you feel good about doing because that's all I did and I've said this a few times on a podcast I think is like all I did growing up was like the things that made me happy the things that

made me feel good. Of course. Like, not like, I'm just, oh, I just, you know, jerking off makes you feel good. So I jerk off all day. I'm saying, like, it's silly, right? But the only reason why I represent that is because I'll say shit like that and I'll see a comment like, jerking off makes me happy. But my point is this, like, my point is like, if you focus on the things that are like

truly like when you do them, you're like, wow, I really like this. And for no other reason, right, like, because a lot of people nowadays, like we're talked about this comparison thing, they'll go, I want to be a fitness influencer because I can make money. you know what I'm saying like oh that guy that guy has a car or something and he does this it's like oh I'm gonna do that because like money and it's like you're it's like you're so I mean maybe it's for you who knows it could be for you it's like but the way in which you're going about it it's it's not lasting like your your direction your aim like I understand the aim to need to make money and wanting to make money but if you go into anything you're like the reason why I'm doing this is to make money you're already like a hundred steps behind you're going about it wrong yeah like I love money and like you can make good money doing this stuff but like what like I think about my head when I think of like making as much money as I can right now is because I want to be able to like buy a house have a family like I want to like because that's what I crave so much in my

life again like with the childhood stuff I want a family bro if I can just have a like sit down dinners like for Christmas and have like a whole family there bro I'm ready to have a kid really yeah we're talking about that that'll be lit oh my god that'll be like that this invokes positive emotion inside you like just thinking about it and like I want to be able to provide for my family and stuff so it's not the action of me getting money and like this being stupid like wealthy or whatever I want to be able to provide and I have to worry about like my kids needing to like of course you see what I'm saying you know I'm so young and I'm like ready for that yet it's just thinking about that ahead and you know the thing for me I've related

because the way in which I've made pretty much all the money that I made is through all this right and I look at like all the messages and the response I'm like if I kept doing this and I kept being able to reach people and like help affect people and if that's because I'm making more money doing so like that's the true aim for for me is like reaching more people like doing everything at a bigger level at a higher scale so that more people were able to hear a message that I wish that net where I was like yo I'm lifting the girls and they're like oh the girl's butts I want to click on his video see the butts or what girls are there or that's crazy or this guy's strong or whatever the fuck you're thinking

I wish that net was like I'm here for like this content for like this type of meaningful shit I wish that was as big like that's my goal is to get it that that that as big well I was wonder because like I'm not going to like I made a YouTube one time it's my pin video on my channel And it's my life story video And I literally, when I posted I was like, this is gonna do so bad Because it's just me sitting from the camera Talking about my life

And like my journey to Christ and stuff And I'm just sitting in front of the camera With some like piano in the back Was this after the last time you came? No, I had it before then It's probably for like five months or something And low key, it got a ton of love Like performed way

Given my channel at the time Was one of the very best videos On my entire channel, the comment section, Ridiculous. So many comments people saying How they related to it I still got comments to this day When I refreshed my studio app

to reply or whatever Yeah. I see people going up in the comments saying, you know, like, I needed this changed my life. And like, low key, I thought the video would do awful, but people needed it. Some people like need it. I just don't think they need it until they see it. I'll do like video sometimes. I'll do like, why you got to clickbait them. Yeah, that's why you got to get bigger shoulders. And at the end of the video, five minute segment where I'm just talking about. Yeah, that's how the fucking internet works. You know what I mean. God get messages for some guy will be like, God, Brad fucking trap this with this click bait, but like I'm glad I'm here though. Yeah. I see that how you're talking about. It's so funny. Yeah. But it is what it is. Man, I just know that that's how the fucking internet works. Yeah. And I again, it's thinking. It's about trying to cast that net, like, big, you know? As far as you can. Yeah. Yeah. So you guys, how do you guys know each other? Because you guys obviously, like, whenever I see you guys, you guys are like always together.

We met, I had like 5,000 followers on Instagram. I think you had like a thousand. Yeah. This was before we, yeah. I don't know. I saw him on TikTok. I'm like, I don't know why. I just kind of like something about him.

Like, I love how TikTok's a new like, I found you here. Yeah. It's just like, fuck, dude. So we just DMed and I was on my way back from Virginia and I just stopped in Maryland. linked up and like we were just cool we had a little way to workout and then he came a second time with eunis and gave me COVID I got COVID now you guys really bought it but no I got like sick sick I got super that you were perfectly fine you is perfectly fine I was the only one who got like down bad sick like I was out for like the whole week yeah type but then we then we uh what we from there

we just I don't know so I always related to him because he always feels like a big brother to me because I'm like very non-confrontational like the least not confrontational person ever wait the most non-confrontational person yeah like I won't like I I won't, like, I don't stick out for myself. I really don't. I'm not going to lie. Like, he, but he will, like, OD. So it feels like a big brother to me almost.

I don't like to have him around. I don't want a name drop, but there was, can I talk about that? I don't care, bro. Yeah, so there was this kid that used to date his ex. Mm-hmm. And, like, he was just talking shit to him. And he was telling me about. In person, like, I'm not, I'm not, like, he was just upset that I took his, not

like, like, took, but, you know, I kind of did. You started dating her after? Yeah, like, very shortly, yeah. So he was kind of pressed, though. So, like, he was telling me about it. And then, like, he went to some gym and Jersey. So I pulled up. Like, I was like, oh, maybe I'll see him there.

So I went and I saw him there and I was like, yo. And I just started pressing him at the gym. I just love this kid, though. And I feel bad. But there's a strong bond, bro. This is like my brother. I mean, every time we come out here, I make sure he's coming too. Yeah.

I feel like so comfortable when I go out in public with, like, Kim or like, Izzy and them because I'm like, no one can touch me right now. Because like, it's like, they're like, you know what I mean? And it's, it's just funny. I don't know. No one's trying to get you You know what I know Yeah, I know

But it's like It's feel like If there's any altercation anywhere I'm like I don't gotta do anything I'm chilling You know what I'm In Texas you can just carry the strap

Yeah bro I can't wait to move there I can't just carry the strap here anyways But maybe I'll have to cut that out Yeah I can't wait to move Fuck it Yeah leave it in

Yeah I know Texas Let's talk about that Bro God damn I've literally been looking I was looking at houses last night I know dude

Trust me trust me It's all it's 100% in the timeline It's just like If I I didn't have to move this gym, the timing in which I had to move my current gym to like the new gym in LA, the bigger spot, I would already be working on it. And it's just been like crazy with, you know, I can't even go into detail, but like production

timing and equipment and all the shit, but it's coming. Yeah. It's just like, Cali seems like awful. Like I was driving that guy's car. He told me his whole car was illegal and I was driving it and I drove by a cop. I was like, what? Like apparently like the whole thing is illegal. I'm like, yeah, everything is illegal.

Like the modified exhaust, like how much horsepower is pushed in. And like the window tent, like literally everything can be illegal. And I just don't get like, well, how? I don't understand. Even in like Maryland, it's getting bad. Like I can't get, I can't get catless headers for my, my Shelby. You have to get cated because it's better for the environment. I'm like, bro, why?

It's my car. If I'm in a free country, can I modify the exhaust? But they're trying to be like, you know, for everyone else in the environment, you know? Like, bro, but I don't get it because it's supposed to be a free country. If it's my property, let me do what I want to do to my property, bro. Like, I want to make it loud. Let me make it loud. Yeah, but they're trying to protect the, you know, everyone.

I mean I'm not saying it's rational thinking all the time I'm just saying like their their response that's going to be like well what about everyone else and like the fucking disrupting other people exactly that's like socialism bro to me what about everybody else like I care about like I care about like I care about like I'm just like Alex could you repeat what you just like I'm just like sounds like like me having to worry about what how it affects everybody else it seems like a socialism type principle to me that's fucking welcome to California you know what it's my property specifically like if I was like renting it or something I understand like why not like I can't obviously but like it's my like I spent my earned income on it so the reason I know the reason is because like just the amount of motherfuckers specifically live in California and like emissions and all the shit like their whole purpose of like doing that is to lessen this I'm not saying this is always just because like there's probably 10 other things like the government could do like to change within the state

of California that is like higher up than people's cars so they're not changing the wrong thing is like what is it like Tesla people like oh I'm gonna get a Tesla so I'm better for the environment yet the thing the factors it takes to produce the batteries is more harmful harmful for the for the whole world instead of the actual cars right that's what i'm saying idiots but it's like they just but no i get it but it's they've convinced people to look at certain things and it's it's california's a whole thing trust me i'm i live here and i've lived there for a long time and only in the last two years was i like this is fucking weird i don't know how i feel about being here that's why i feel like texas would be dope because just like yeah i'm gonna do what i want to do and like no one can say i can't do it

yeah texas is amazing man i love love that fucking place like i fucking love tex you gotta go over a farm one time bro because i'm at the farm like i literally can just empty a whole clip right now in like the middle of nowhere and i'm not gonna get messed with like no one cares i can do whatever i want there i want a farm so bad it's lit bro we have 300 acres in virginia it's lit dude we got the side by side like it's yeah but i'm not i'm not gonna tend to farm myself hold on a second i'm not it's just fun to go it's like freedom no no i want a farm that i could show up and fucking relax and shoot a fucking gun and not have to worry about it's hard it's pulling up it's hard to

explain it bro like sometimes i go in like the truck bed we'll pull up at nighttime just look up and there's just so many stars everywhere we have military grade night vision goggles i'll put them on you can see like shooting stars everywhere it's crazy what the fuck with yeah i don't know i about that oh yeah we have those is it cool that's what i want to fuck with now and that's why i want to go there do what is it like where where you're from uh jersey yeah it's like l-a what part of jersey are you from north jersey north jersey yeah everybody's from jersey bro i noticed this it's weird right it's very strange i feel like the brand new fitness community is like just straight out of Jersey it was always California what does they call us the I don't know they have a name for

people from Jersey they think we're all on steroids and like really oh the jr like the jersey juries or some shit like yeah yeah I forgot what it was there's a lot of there sounds like the jersey shore shit yeah yeah but there's a new there's a different name bro it's something to do with like some like the like the fake natties that have came up in the industry or whatever there was like a lot from Jersey who are the fake natties in oh man I don't know if I'm a lot to say I mean No no I definitely can I'm not

Cause I'm cool I mean fake Natties and our in my you know my My generation would have been what I guess not my generation Michael Herne Simey Panda These are the fake natties Yeah

Yeah But like ours I don't like I wouldn't say I'm not gonna like out anybody What would happen if you said Are there fake natties like Loki If it They call me a fake nattie though

Yeah he actually is I'm gonna say you You're too dry bro Fuck you Is Alex says it all the time And then he doesn't say like Ha ha ha I'm kidding

They believe me This is like I'm not really a drug dealer You know what I'm saying But some people probably believe you are Bro how many people probably think I'm a drug dealer Probably is fucking a million out They were like they were like Oh yeah

He wasn't that big until he started hanging out with Brad You? Yeah Oh my God And I'm like what do you think Brad just walks around Like passing shit out I'm just the osmosis like fucking Just being near people you get bigger

But um yeah fake Natty's not I can't because they like mess with their income I don't know if they contracts I will never out somebody on that but I will get triggered though because I feel like it's not honorable at all to be fake about it because then you ruin you ruin our reputation by being fake about it yeah like the true nowadays like we get a bad reputation because like they think we're fake because of the actual fake ones you create unrealistic expectations I believe if you go on gear like just be open about it but don't be open about it like some of these guys

are where you say all your exact cycles because then you're in you're influencing these 14 year olds a hop-old this is the thing this is the thing that I see a lot now where I'm like it's weird it's like it's like it's like a catch 22 because like everyone's like you know they've been like I want to know the fucking tell me tell me the see tell me the truth tell me and then it's like but now all these kids are kind of coming out talking about it and like it's kind of like it seems as if they're glorifying it yes I've talked about this they switched it they switched it completely because back in your era bro it was like everybody wanted to act like a fake natty or say they would never be open about it because they thought

that that would help them grow more be looked up it's opposite now loki when you're open about it and being on gear you get praised for like thank you for being open about it Bro, it completely switched on its head, bro. Yeah, but it's interesting because now I think it's probably affecting more kids, like, in a negative way who are, like, younger, hopping on sooner, which is like... That's fucking insane. And they have these people that they look up to that make them think it's cool. To the point where I'll post, I could post something now, it'll be like, nobody cares that you're natural. Like, you know...

They say that in the comments. They'll be like, nobody cares that you're natural. They, like, want to glorify. It's opposite. It's completely switched. And it's like, it's not like they need to care that you're natural now. It's not even what I'm like arguing it's the thing that bothers me is like I know that But it's like then what what way would we have this right? Like how do we there's no perfect balance here

I think it's it's it's definitely influencing more kids to be like I'm gonna get on this shit sooner Which is like a bad fucking idea like genuinely not a good idea You should be like I mean at least you should be open like if you're not natural to say you're not natural Don't go into detail exactly every little damn detail you're doing of like how to go about it like what to do Because then you're like look you giving them a step by step tutorial what to do and I'm like It's it's tough though because there are kids who are who are like who did start this shit really young yeah and I just want to make this I want to preface this by saying like this does not happen to everyone very clearly I want you

guys understand this who are very young who started very young and got really successful in this industry because of their usage yeah right so I'm not naming any these names I'm sure you guys are aware of these people I'm talking about but it's like that doesn't mean they're like you're just going to get on gear and be like this kid right yeah I just this this conversation is just It's so interesting to me. It's so, like, taboo and it's like reversed. But it's just, it's fucked like, I don't know, I just, you got to, I don't know. I guess the thing I would say is like if you're going to really consider that, like,

you need to actually look into what it can do to you long term. Yeah. And what are your goals as well? Yeah. And like, is it worth it? Is it really worth it for you? Like, spend time to really think about that. Because I think, like I said, so many kids just see it now because like people talk about

it's more open now, which is why the whole thing is switched. But at the same time, it's just, you know, And something's like here, more here in your face, more here. You're more likely to like, all right, fuck it. Like, I'm going to try it. I'm going to do it. And it's just like, I would just urge anyone listening, like, like pump the brakes a little bit. Understand it.

Under, you have to understand it. Like, otherwise you're just like shooting in the fucking dark. Dude, the culture is strong right now. Like, even a year ago, I was saying like, yo, I would, I would never hop on. That's not me. I'm not doing that. Even now when I see and I know what people are doing and how they're doing it. Even me, I'm like, damn, I kind of want to hop on.

Bro, every single day, bro, I struggle. Yeah. Have you talked about it, Alex? Have you talked about how you were contemplating on hopping on? Made whole video. I made a whole video. I was like, bro, I made a whole video and I was like, I declared that I'm going to, like, as a way, almost to keep myself, like, accountable for it.

I was like, I'm going to stay natural. I like, just so I can make a video so I can't, like, go back on it. Because I know that I, like, I want to do so bad because I know I'd probably make a lot more money. And then that's where I came to the point, like, we talked about earlier. Like, what am I actually doing this social media stuff for? Like, do I, do I want to just make a bunch of shit ton of money? Or do I want to actually impact kids in a positive way?

And I'm like, I want to impact kids in a positive way. So I'm going to be natural so I can show them they don't need to hurt their bodies. Like, you know what I mean? And like they can do it in a good way. Obviously, like a lot of naturals can't look like me. That's just being genuine. Like I'm not like saying my physique's like nothing like stupid crazy, but like a lot of people won't get the physique they want.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean genetics are king in this. Like in every conversation about this is like, I've met guys who took the most shit. I was like, shocked. I'm like, holy shit. And it's, you look at them and not that they look terrible. but you wouldn't you'd expect it to be different you know you'd expect it to be different so

i don't know i i i just think like there's probably way too many young kids doing this shit and also this weird fucking like rationalization of like sarms are like not it's like not as bad for you it's just the same kind of shit it's like a different version different derivative of it like they'll like or some people like take it on purpose so that they can like get prescribed t r t i mean i keep seeing that a lot well they'll take the sarms and then it'll crash their hormones naturally and then they'll like be like oh why do i feel like shit get their blood tested they're like 100 nanomeres stress a liter well it's because basically they took steroids and then got off

and then their shit crashed yeah that's essentially what happened yeah yeah well but I don't know I feel like more more people are knowing that or are they is everyone so convinced that SARMs aren't basically the same shit bro it's just like companies selling them bro they like hyping it's funny it's not pin it drop something

yeah my generation this was called pro hormones that's what this was no one called like it wasn't sorry like they weren't the drop it so wasn't the liquid all the time but it was like a pill that was basically like a different derivative of like d-ball or anavar some shit right so that was the thing that everyone was talking about when i was literally your guys at age they were like pro hormones so that also has to do with the social media thing like they see these people look so sick like i want to get there now yeah and they

don't understand like i say this all the time i always say like the fruit tastes so much sweeter when you had to starve for it so starve bro like starve a little bit look like shit for a couple years look yourself in mirror get mad and then progress and then progress like i've been training for like six years now the first three years i look like dog shit and until like the fourth year I started like developing a shape and like there's also so many other things that kids just like miss

like they just go right past and they go oh their steroids are like supplements it's like food sleep water training genetics all these other things that are 10 times more important to like understand and try to like evaluate and like make sure your sleep is good

your food is good your drinking habits are good as far as like getting being hydrated enough people don't even think about that shit they just go straight to like I know kids so many kids like I've been working out for like a year, fucking six months. I think about hopping on.

It's like, what are you talking about? You don't even know how to train you. You're sleeping like five hours a night and eating like 1,500 calories. Yeah, drinking alcohol, like just fucking off. And it's like you want to take another substance that's going to hurt you physically. And you don't even know how to like properly apply this. It's like imagine you have that car. You know what car you're talking about with all that horsepower?

Yeah, the Shelby. The Shelby crazy horsepower. But like, let's say I had all that horsepower. But the drive train was fucked up. Like the wheels weren't slick so they weren't able to stick. That shit is just going to fucking crap. It's not like you have all that power all that high power Exactly boom gone so it's just like that's what kids are doing themselves

They're not understanding the whole game and they just go I want that shit now It's like this shit doesn't work that way period and I feel like one thing too like people forget is like One of things I also think can help with like mental like mental issues like depression anxiety is like progression Like humans are naturally addicted to progression for example I can say in the form of grinding a video game Call Duty like ranking like getting certain camos people love grinding for stuff when it comes to cars having a 400 horsepower cars like oh this isn't fast enough now I want to get to 800 and it's like the action of progression and it gives you something to look forward to same thing with a physique bro seeing yourself progress it like it makes you excited like oh I'm going to keep getting better and better bigger and bigger and it can get you out of like ruts and like depressions and stuff When you have something you look to. It's a purpose.

Yeah, exactly. Going back to that. Yeah. So it's like it's a purpose of self, like where you're like, oh man, I'm seeing this. I'm feeling this. Yeah, maybe it's not as fast as I wanted to go, but like it's still going. And I think it's important for people to know, like that's the thing. We're talking about the social media aspect is like, you see the guy who went from here to there, but you knew he's like, oh, he was talking about this.

Now he's doing that. Now he's here and you're like, I want that. But it's like, just play the slow game sometimes, like learn a little bit more. Because you see A and you see Z. Yeah. You don't see B, D, yeah. you don't see everything you know like you know like model warfare too of course you know like fall camo was like the best camera it was like red tiger fall camo right i remember i had i had a

PlayStation 3 account that was like hacked and i instantly had every single cam on every single gun i could have i didn't want to play that account i played the account where i had to grind and like do stuff to get fall camo bro it's such a funny do you see what i'm saying but it's so accurate it's like you get it you because it doesn't mean anything when the game drops like drop day do you want to get the account with every single thing unlocked or you want to actually like grind a little bit because i want to i like to grind it's actually keeps you in the game you to keep getting, you know, progressing the camos, right tiger, blue tiger, then fall versus getting all the one at once.

I'm like, that's kind of dumb. Well, the point of just life in general is, like, and I've talked about this again on the podcast, is the journey. Like, that's the most fun. Exactly. That is the most fun part of life is like trying to get it, trying to succeed, trying to become better. And you have to start to learn to be comfortable with that part of life.

Like that is really the most enjoyable part. And it's like, you look back and then you're like, oh shit, like I'm here now. But it's, like you said, if you had it all from the beginning, you would not appreciate it. You wouldn't care about it the same as if you put your hard effort and energy into it. Do you feel like I was going to ask you, do you feel like you can get used to money, meaning like obviously like making a lot of money? Do you feel like you get used to it in a sense where it doesn't feel like you, I don't know to explain it?

Like it brings you happiness at first. We kind of get used to it. And it's like the new normal money to go like higher and higher. Yeah. You've experienced that in like Arab countries. Like they have so much money that they start chasing power. Yeah. It's like it.

Yeah, like shit on girls chess and stuff. Like you already have all this money. What is it? Yo, like I'm telling you. you like these rich motherfuckers like can they have all the money in the world all the money in the world and i've heard about girls get flown out and these dudes are just like they've done they've done every single thing you could think of because they have all the money in the world and they're just like they get into some weird shit like shitting on girls chess and

just because yeah just because like i can i have enough money to be like how much is it cost for me to do that which is crazy that's like a crazy level yeah and it's just like i mean fuck it's a different level a lot of times like they just fight for like royalty like who like it's power it's who has more of a say it's all about power yeah yeah but but your question go ahead your question again like i'm saying like do you do you because obviously you make good money do you feel like you you get used to it meaning like if you were just like look at yourself like 10 years ago and you'd be like where you are now obviously you're making like way more money back then you would have been like holy shit like this is like new like versus now you're at it you're

a lot more like call me like yeah it's just more normal yeah um it becomes like at some point it just it doesn't mean the same exact thing right because when you when you need it like I can look back on the times when I really need it and I struggle to make $1,000 a month. And like, it meant everything to me. The crazy part about this is along my life, when I stopped, like, allowing myself to feel that, even though it still was like, I need this fucking money, right? Because I needed to pay bills. Yeah. It's almost like the less I did things because I needed it and just because I really wanted to, that like it started to actually come faster and, like, it started to actually come faster and,

faster and faster. So my relationship with money changed drastically when it was like, okay, I can't worry about, you know, spending money on like, you know, the events that we did this week that, that Alex and Hattie were too good to show up for the entire time. I just got to make that known. Fuck you guys, by the way. I had a good video. Okay.

It's all good. I know. You did a video with Lord. Yeah, it's different when you have, like, because last time I was here, I had two weeks so I could chill and I was like, I felt like I didn't have to rush to make content versus I need to get at least three YouTube videos while I'm out here because I'm only here for like 16. I'm like, you know what I mean?

I felt, I did feel bad. But my point is it doesn't matter. So we set up all this stuff. And like, you know, it's like my, you just, you would stress, I stress a lot. I used to stress a lot more about about spending money, like way more about. And I still stress about it now. I'm not saying I don't stress about it at all. But like when I've, when I've gotten closer and closer to like where I feel like I'm aligned with what like I'm actually supposed to be doing, you, I'm not just throwing away money.

But I just know that like I'm putting my heart, my true, like my true self into it that like it's going to come back some way. And I because it's it's a weird thing though because it's like again when you really really need it You just want to hold on to it and you like you'll do anything for it But it's like once you start to let go of that it does come faster Yeah I think there's a book I was like thinking think and grow rich by Napoleon Hill That and outweeting the devil by the way if anyone struggles with anything in life read I wouldn't read read that book Bro read fire fiber think of girl rich is the first book I read when I was like 15 years old Yeah so that I think about self-help sorry not the first book I ever read because I'm gonna take that sound like no I read like

Moby-Dicking shit growing up, but, yo, when I was like, yo, I want to read my own book outside of school. I was 15. It was that book. Yeah, it talks about how, like, once you start to, like, get, like, revenue or, like, money, it's start, you see it comes easier and it comes quicker, bro. Like, it just starts coming. Like, it's weird at first.

It's like, getting the ball rolling. Yeah, a little harder. Once you get it going, it just keeps going. But you have you read Outwitting the devil? No, no. Dude. No. No.

That book's pretty, that's, like, my faith. I hate reading, bro, and that thing, like, really. I always talk about in my videos, like, really, like, help me get a different mindset on life and it talks. It's like, the way the author, Napoleon Hill, the same author, he's having a conversation with the devil, and it's like, but it's not like the devil of, like the Christian Bible. It's like the,

it's like the evil forces of the world and, like, things that make people drifters, meaning they drifted society and not being successful, bro. Tony, great book, like life changing. Did you read it? No, I haven't. You got to check it out, bro. I'm telling you both of you. It's really good. I need to read more books again. Low state. You can just do audio books. You know, like, doing cardio or something. Yeah. I've been doing

a lot more cardio trying to get fucking shredded bro i feel you i'm getting fat i'm gonna try to compete this year i'm getting kind of diesel lately too really did yeah i think you posted a video on your story yeah i know he's like yeah i know i've heard some things nothing it's just he heard some things it was that it's all that um it's a turkestrone you're taking i guess you know it's funny about those those uh it's got to be those supplements is like dude i like aschragonda and like this shit the ecstey has been around forever yeah and it's just not And all of a sudden, it's like, oh my God, this is the biggest thing ever. It's like, dude, it's not.

I say it's like the equivalent, the equivalent of like a good responder to creatine can actually get a little bit stronger. I mean, good responder, a really good responder. Yeah, it's dope. It's dope. I've been taking Ashwaghanor for like 10 years. 10 years and it's all of a sudden, TikTok is like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's cool up out of nowhere. Yeah, it's crazy shit to me. Make your slong bigger and stuff.

It doesn't, though. It doesn't, no. It doesn't, but it's a really good adapt to it's a great product. It's just like, if it's been around for. forever though yeah you know so what other things like that are are like on social that are like really new to you guys what that are like it's like the turgastrone the actie ecstron cepogenics like what all the all the natural plant sapowans plant sapowans they call it it's like um they just anybody again people love the idea of like having anything natural like

they love they jump on it oh this isn't going to impact my hormones let me get that let me take that but again like it's not going to make you like super huge Again, like I say people, it's like maybe like, I could responder to creatine, bro. Yeah. Creeteen's cheaper too. So, I mean, there's a shortage right now I heard. Creatine? There's a shortage on a lot of stuff.

It's getting more expensive. Bro, I can't get any parts from my car right now. It's like, I can't even get it. The whole supply chain. Yeah. Whole supply chain from like international everywhere is, is actually really bad for everything. Apparently. So I still work full time.

I'm like a project manager at home during the week. And there's a shortage of everywhere. Even wood, steel, everything. What the fuck? I don't understand how. I mean, I understand like COVID, but like how, bro, like, what do you mean? Because there's no workers that can put and make the product. How crazy is that, bro?

Like, how last year, like, you could be like... All of that goes together. You could be, like, not have a job at all, and you're making more money sitting on your ass. You know what I mean? And now I keep seeing a lot of people quitting, like, uh, like, fast food restaurant chains and stuff like that. There's, like, a shortage of workers because people just don't want to... They're having, like, a workload overdose because of, like, Uber Eats and stuff like that. Like, a lot of, like, restaurant workers are dipping and stuff because they feel like they're open work.

But isn't that crazy? like last year people were getting like I know friends I went to school with who were getting like more money than me at the time when I was like working a minimum because they were unemployed yeah because of COVID like they're just giving all this money you see you're not paying 11 billion in taxes too yeah bro I dude I don't even talk I'm gonna get in trouble I'm gonna get in trouble it's all good wait what did you say no is it also like a lot of businesses that had to fire people because of COVID or whatever it was because they had to reduce their departments and things like that firing the people resulted in them paying unemployment and then on top of that they're

getting the COVID that helps them because they're not working. So they're getting like double. COVID that helps them with a cousin. What does that mean? That fuck me up that sentence. COVID that helps them because they're not working. No, the, you know how people are getting fat paychecks? Yeah, yeah, yeah, COVID relief or whatever the fuck it's called.

Stimmy. It's so funny. Everyone's like free money. It's like, no dummy. That's the money you already work for. They just gave it back to you. What are you talking about? Everyone's like, oh my God, it's free money.

Oh my God. The Stimmy check. It's like, no, dude. Because COVID's associated with it, people are like, oh, it's just free money. And they have like everything everything everything's free it's like you never pay it's like all guys how do you feel about how do you feel about how do you feel about taxes and stuff what's your opinion? Oh taxis yeah oh I hate them I think it's I think it's like generally like again I'm like very big on like freedom I feel like it's I think it's like they're fucking robbing us

I think it's like it's like loki like they're stealing like oh the government is the mob it's like legalized my dad said it's a silent investor and they just take your money when you're making more but when you lose it they don't give it back yeah when they also don't do anything to help you make it at least at least they haven't done anything for me yeah i don't know if anything i would say we showed up and they were like yo what up i got a business plan yo brad check this out this shit instagram it's coming out no one told me that shit i figured it all on my own i just don't get how i'm benefiting any more than like the like the average like macdonald's worker like how come i have to pay like so much more i don't know it just seems like messed up to me

i'm like that loki doesn't see that seems like socialism to me more than capitalism i don't know that's why i see a lot of people like like like with the pauses they like puerto rico bro i'm trying like we're talking about moving we all we're talking about moving straight up like Dubai or something. Yeah, Dubai, yeah. But Puerto Rico is crazy because, like, even then, like, because Puerto Rico knows that people are going there, like, the property taxes and, like, the cost of the houses are, like, astronomical. So it's like you save the money on the front end here. It's like, you'd have to be in Puerto Rico for, like, a certain amount of time to save, actually save the money.

You know, so it's a good oil country, bro, because they, like, already got all the money in the world. They don't need anymore. Like, go to Dubai or, like, what is it, the Arab Emirates? That's, yeah, yeah, UAE. Yeah, like, though, they're chilling. Dubai is in the UAE, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, something like that.

Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. Like, taxes in general is just, it's, it's wild, man. I mean, even if you're not making a ton of money, they're still just like your paycheck. If you're paycheck, they're just taking your money and then they're like, I don't get it, bro. And they're like, even I'm paying 11, what was 11 billion, right? He's 11 million, one of the two. But he did that on purpose. He sold off some of his shares and he did that on purpose just to be like, fuck you because everyone's talk shit.

But still, isn't that like crazy? Like, that's like a whole like what's like the defense budget or something. And what do you think it's going to go to? That's the thing. Like, where's it going? Like, where's it all going? I see dumb homeless people's pockets over here. Like, where's it going, please tell me.

That's where it's going. The gas is like ridiculous out here. A bunch of homeless people isn't like a heavily taxed. I'm like, where? I'm so confused. Trust me. And it's gotten worse in the last five years crazy.

And then they go, it's free. Everything's free. Oh my God. California, I love it. People are like Loki's way like that outwitting the devil book like Loki talks about like those people like that.

Drifters are just kind of clueless, brother. It's like sheep. They just don't think for themselves. They just like, they get something that's like, okay, cool. I'll do that. I mean,

The thing that I probably shouldn't say, I've always found really interesting, is that if every single person was like, like police officer, military worker, assistant, general manager, business owner, if everyone was like, nah, we'll give you 5%. They'd have to take it. But that will never go over. It's just like in class when it was like, I remember I was young. I was like, yo, if we all dip right now because the teacher's late, we won't get in trouble. We can go to the recess yard. You talked to me about this before. We could just fuck off.

And like you're going to have like the 10 kids are like, no, I don't want to get in trouble. So they're going to stay there and then they're going to, you know, and then you're going to be in the thing and then teaching him be like, you're what are you doing? Get in here. You're fucked up. Let me write you detention. You're never going to get everyone to be on that side.

But if everyone said no, there's no power. People are afraid to like do stuff to speak up and stuff. Like I even like, this is the most of talk about anything like that just because like I'm scared, bro. I'm scared like I'm going to get attacked by somebody for it or like I don't know. I mean, it's not going to like what I'm saying is not going to happen. Yeah, it's like it's like ever. It's not going to happen.

I just like wonder how the hell do they get all these people to fight back like the Revolutionary War. Like how did you guys really get without phones or all that? That's why. You know what? Let me explain this to you. You know why? I think we talked about this exactly.

Because like if you have people that you can like, you know, I don't want to say this. How do I say this in a way that like if you could put propaganda in front of people like instantly. Yeah. You could start to sway an opinion, right? Yeah. You're right. But back in a day.

Go back and forth. Back in a day, you tell your boys in that city over there, that city over there. you're like yo we're gonna like fuck this shit that's going on we're gonna change this yeah they're all like bet i'm a part of that then you go to tell but then if you know if those same people now we're able to get on their phone and be like wait but this said this so like i got it little fuck all that they're wrong i'm over here that's you can't do it anymore that's why they did it back in the day because there wasn't that rapid spread of whether it be information misinformation misinformation or truth half truth whatever the fuck i don't care right and this is not a left and this is

like all sides is just constantly doing this shit to each other right politically and it's just fucking crazy man It's just causing people to just divide and attack each other, which I think is the craziest concept of all because like this whole thing was supposed to be founded on like you being united. That's why they named it that shit. So it's just a it's an interesting time to be alive

and I think it's become just more apparent. Like someone like you, dude, when I was your age, I wasn't talking about this kind of shit. This wasn't relevant to me. You know what I'm saying? It's become way more highlighted. So that like that in of itself is proof in it of itself that it's way more divisive.

Because if you're over here at your age and you're thinking about stuff like that, that means there's a different side to it too, right? I wasn't even thinking about shit like that when I was your age. I see what you're saying. So it's social media. The shit has like this crazy double-edged sword.

That's like pretty dope. Like we really like... We're living in like unprecedented times. No doubt about that. Like completely unprecedented time. You feel like America's got like a little soft low key. I feel like... Overall, yeah.

I used to be like super... Like I swear like Second Amendment rights shirts to school in high school. I was like a little like a little country blow. You know what I mean? Like a little... Short hair. and everything and um i used to like be so proud to like you know to be i used to want to be in the

military and everything and now i'm like looking back i'm like wow you idiot why did you want to join the military what are you going to fight for like oil like you know what i mean it's just like there's always like underlying yeah i feel like i'm not obviously i'm blessed to be in this country and everything but then i get like low-key seeing like sometimes the direction where i feel like it might be going it kind of like sad like bro i missed kind of how it was me like five 10 years ago you know what i mean yeah it was different man social media has really changed everything changed all this shit changed dating it's changed fucking everything man our relationships with ourselves but that's why we'd like thing we talk about we get back to is like it's even though

all these things are relevant and all these things are happening and all these things are current or whatever are going to continue to go like the true thing you got to focus on is like where are you at and like what's really important to you and like what what what do you really want to bring to the world you know what I'm saying like and if we can keep focus on that because that's all we can really change right that's all we can really focus on we can talk as much you want about like that bigger shit but like exactly they there's nothing's going to change like i can't convince everyone like guys if we all said no when that time was april comes around they want to take you all your taxes you say no yeah it's not gonna happen but i can be like okay

what can i do you know just to make it yeah make more money so you don't i mean you're paying more yeah or just refine myself in my life and you know what i'm focused on and focus on the things that i know that i do have more control control the trouble exactly exactly yeah it's facts i get overwhelmed sometimes because i have like awful anxiety still so i'll think like again like this and I'll just ramble on thinking about it in the end of the day like I know I can't change it is what it is yeah but um do you guys have any questions for me because before we got on the podcast like two days ago I was like go get me some questions you got to ask it for you if not I know we have some audience questions do you feel um how's your relationship with

god oh shit that's a good one I remember because no because like generally I remember like the first I ever talked to you I like I'm always big on witnessing to people um because obviously if I if I have had the cure to cancer, I'm going to tell people with the cure to cancer. So I always witnessed, I can talk to Dave late for the time I met him about it. Yeah. Talk to you. And at first, I remember we were with Jacob going to Malibu and like you weren't really like serious about you.

You're kind of like messing around. And then like the last, like it was like two or three times or a few months ago I came here and like you pulled me outside. Yeah. And I got here to zoo and you were like talking to me about it because you had that talk with George on here. I spent more time and I do spend more time overall like continuing to have that conversation. It's, um, it's not like it's different now. It's weird. like I'm out of that I'm older it's just that it's like it's I don't know it's just the relationship for me feels more relaxed overall like do you feel like fulfilled do you feel like

you're good like you get everything you need not exactly like in what sense in like in like spiritually just like I mean I don't know like I just like overall like like do you feel like everything like you you found what you needed do you feel fulfilled whole kind of kind except like except like you know i don't have my family yet right like fully i see what you're saying um so beyond that like if i'm thinking financially or like where i'm at then yeah i mean i would say that i do feel that way okay and so like my relationship uh with god i mean i've tried i've tried to just to just have more conversation i've just been more willing to like spend time like i used to when i was much much younger and just sit and have those conversations uh like i told you

were more just about having conversations with myself and now I'm trying to have more conversations with myself but also in reference to to God yeah so higher power like I said it's like almost like submitting in a way yeah like talking to some like somebody you look up to yeah more sharing like more like more actual just trying to have that that open communication obviously like no one's saying anything back directly to me but um yeah a lot more often do I sit and I'm like if I'm calm I'm like having these conversations a lot of times just fucking saying thank you man yeah like that's how i feel the most in my life right now is the fact that i'm thank you i'm still here i just feel grateful that like i'm able to make this content with you and

you know look at my perspective right like i'm someone who's been doing this for years and years and years yeah the most years like literally started on this shit like in the very beginning on instagram and now i'm talking to to two guys that are like on their way up like from the beginning and like i'm able to be here and have this conversation about relevant things uh with you guys and like that's dope man like for me me it's like what more do I want like that's my whole like the evolution of me and my brand and my purpose is this yeah you know what I'm saying like so it's like I'm grateful as fuck for for everything more that I can get everything more that I'm not going to get I'm just grateful to like

to fucking be obviously I want so much more that's such big goals but like part of I know that getting there to those goals is like kind of how you're talking about it but it's like surrendering and the fact that like I I not that I don't have to try or work but like like I feel like it's going to come no matter what and as it's supposed to come and in the time that it's supposed to happen. So I don't worry as much about that anymore. Like meeting it now or having it to be this way. How do you feel about like giving? One of the things I've been like struggling with a lot with is just being like being vulnerable is like I've been obviously make a lot more well off than I was like a year and a half ago is like learning to like give like

give back and especially like with my faith. God teaches just tells me like to try to be a cheerful giver and um but like to give secretly. I know. George think talked about this too on the podcast but him giving I feel like I've been struggling a lot with like giving giving to God more because like I see myself as like um not an owner of the things that I have in my life meaning whenever someone says like yo Alex your content's doing super good YouTube's popping off I'm like God's been blessing me I say it every single time it's not me it's not me that's choosing to bless me and he's allowing me to do even better so the money that I get from all that stuff I know is God's and it's not mine I just struggle with like figuring out like

how to give it bro I feel like I need to give back somehow and I stress over it yeah I feel like I should be I'm making more money. Why not? Even like we bought shoes the other day. We got, we felt bad the whole day, I felt mad guilty too. I was like,

I feel like I need to do something. Look at me. He's fucking. Dude, so funny. I felt so bad. I don't, so here's my deal.

There's two things. I don't buy shit like this. I really don't. I needed new shoes. I generally don't. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with. There's nothing wrong with it. I've always been the person that like the most of the money that I make,

I'll reinvest into the businesses and to the brands or to the people that are part of it. With your cars. Yeah. I've had that bitch since I opened the gym fucking almost six years yeah and I could buy any car man I could have bought any car five times over but like that's not the point right that's that's never been the thing that like truly fulfilled me yeah it's like so there's that where I the money that I give is maybe not necessarily like to random people but it's like to the community to like you know to building the things that I'm trying to like build and then the second one is you know like

you mentioned your friend who came up and talked to me what was his name uh is he yeah the guy I had like just the 30 minutes Oh, we're seeing, we're seeing, with we're seeing. So it was like, just being able to be like, I'm going to be present in these moments because like that's another form of giving, right?

I agree. So even you too. He actually, that's funny you say that because that exact kid, we play, we play war zone every night. He's like, I should be with him.

And he literally told me, I had this conversation with him, he's Muslim, so he was talking about the whole action of giving. And I was telling him this exact thing I asked you. And he was like telling me how that's,

the way I treat my followers and my fans are talking to them, playing video games. Like, that's another form of giving. Even it's not monetarily. I'm still giving. You know what I mean?

So it's cool. It's weird. You explain that. It's just the truth, right? Like, you know, I mean, ultimately money is time, right? Time is money. Yeah, for, especially for me in the position that I'm in, right? And for you guys as well.

And for everyone. Like, so I'm just like, you know, it's funny because like it's, it doesn't, I don't even think twice about it because when I'm in that conversation with that kid is like, dude, that's for my heart, like genuinely from my fucking heart. And I feel that. So it's like, I feel that giving in that. I feel like I want to. It's like a part of me that wants to give.

It's so fulfilling. And that's why, like, us both. Like, the other day, we were just chilling with some kid. He took us in his car. We went to his crib. One of the kids that followed us. And just, like, he would ask us questions about, you know, how'd you do this? How did you do that?

And that fulfillment that I had personally when we got back of just, like, giving that time and seeing how happy he was about it and how much you learned. And he texted me after. Like, yo, thank you so much for that time. He really means a lot. Yeah. Good guy. It's just like that's all I need I trained him for an hour actually

I trained him like the whole time I didn't work out I was training that him and his buddies Yeah Got a sick card So different forms of giving you know So to answer questions It's like yeah

I've those are the ways That I mostly give Yeah I see what you're saying Yeah that makes it feel It makes me feel better Natalie do you have any Um guess questions

Is that even a question Okay of course we do By the way guys If you guys want to ask us some questions At the end of each podcast We answer them Ask raw talk at gmail.com Is the email

Dan, that rhyme didn't mean to do that. That was kind of bars, though. Once again, it's Askuraught Talk at gmail.com. Yeah, so go ahead. So first question is, okay, so this is a hypothetical question. So someone's asking. Okay, so obviously you have your homies back if they were in a fight, if they were ever in a fight. What if it was two friends that about to fight?

Who's back would you have? Whoa, whoa. Oh, so like me and Izzy were going to fight or something? Yeah, so like, for example, he's definitely, no, no, you guys wouldn't fight. If it's both my friends, I'm not going to let it happen. But no, but say, like, me and Izzy were about to throw down. Obviously, Izzy probably would, has more experience than me. So I feel like you should help me out because I want to need it.

Probably more. But you're, you're going to stop the fight. You've been boys. You're like, you get in between you're like, oh, Brad, that's a lie. You would not stop the fight. You literally put Yaz and Jacob against each other to fight. Well, we made a bet on that. That's different.

But like, those are two friends and you made them fight. Yeah, but you watched it. And you like, influence it. Hold on a second. Let me make this clear. No one actually fought that never actually happened. We were making bets on the idea if they were to fight Who would win period and it never actually happened

If Sylvie and Jacob got in a fight here you helping beat up the other I can't I got to stop that I can't let him hurt each other Yeah, that's what I was saying who's winning Newer Jacob Jacob's a cycle pass so I'm gonna say really yeah for sure he's a fucking So he's gonna jack lately no he's strong as fuck he's actually has a three what your deliff is three and a half three point three times his body weight That's crack yeah that's Fucking crazy. Dude, that's like he, you have a 500-pound deadlift and he weighs like 150.

That's actually insane, dude. Because if I had three times body weight, that's like 900 pounds. Like 9 or 8, 858 or some shit like that. That's a gnarly deadlift. But anyways, no, you got to stop the fight. You can't let your fucking boys fight. That's like not, this is not cool. So give us another question.

Okay, when do you see yourself satisfied and settling down with your own families? all of us oh shit I mean damn yikes yeah it's like a I mean as soon as I can you're getting old yo oh god damn soon I say in the next

in the next three years I'm I gotta I'm having a kid you can't plan that like no you can't but I'm saying like within three years I'm popping out a baby or two that's solid yeah what about you two when do you guys see yourselves having a family I would just say like you know today with social media and stuff it is so hard to maintain like a healthy

relationship yeah um as as soon as I can find somebody who is willing to allow me to steer my ship in the direction we talked about this without interfering with it but being able to help I'll be ready I'm ready now if that came along yeah I agree I agree I agree with that statement but like as like number wise like I definitely don't want to like worry about like I mean maybe like maybe like 27 it depends I mean again you can't put a number one if you find the girl find the girl it's very hard to be fine i mean but again like similar to him want to be like financially like know that i'm financially super capable of giving you whatever you need as whether i had a child or whatever like i don't i don't want any doubts there yeah i want to be like a od

provider like biblically like be like a you know what i mean like you're supposed to provide like in every sense yeah to your to your partner yeah i'm not ready even if it's just not financially it's like you got to be ready yeah exactly ready emotionally yeah exactly and that's not easy And that takes time to learn. So, I mean, I'm like, I think I'm there. I just need to find, you know, some. A vessel. Find a vessel.

I don't like to, you know. That's so called a vessel. It's kind of fuck, dude. It is, right. You need to find a ship. And impregnate that ship. And have tugboats. Have little tugboats.

All right. Give us one more question. Okay. So there's like three questions in this one, but the first one is, my question is, has there ever been a point in your life where you felt like there was nothing you can ever do. If so, can you explain as much as you can emotionally and tell us how you got through that dark place? Nothing I could ever do in the sense of, I'm assuming, like, I couldn't do anything to change it. To get out of it, I guess. To get out of it. Yeah, so this is funny. It goes

back to the thing you're talking about. I just, it rings in my head every time you say it. De realization? No, surrendering. Oh, really? Yeah, understanding that like, there's just some things you cannot fucking change, no matter how bad you want it to be different. no matter how like you think oh if i did this then that could have happened or if i had this conversation last week instead of like letting this blow up or if i just text back or i call back whatever like dude like some things are just meant to fucking be and like you have to be comfortable with that fact because that's not going to fucking change everything's normally in hindsight when you're like oh yeah man i could have done would have done should have done it's all hindsight so it's

like if that's the truth right because you're in a process of learning in your life and because this straight up point blank period like that's all we're all doing every day we're learning more we're growing we're either looking towards trying to grow and become you know better or more positive in our lives or we're allowing negative influences to fucking take us in a different direction right like that's all we're doing so when certain things happen and you're like fuck there's no way out of this that's that's just what the fuck was supposed to happen and now it's like where do you go from here next that's what's 10 times more important you got to live in the future on the past. That's how I see it.

Or the present. Yeah. But I always see myself doing like, I always see myself catching myself being like, yo, what could I have done differently? Like, yo, it's already done, bro. Like, stop. Like, I can't like restart the mission. Go back to the last checkpoint. I just got to keep going. Yeah. I mean, nothing else exists but right now. Yeah. Like, the moment you heard that, that's what

that's what matters. Yeah. And the more you can refine that in your life, like, the more you realize like, okay, this is, this is what it is, okay, what's next? What am I doing now? What's my next step? And that's way more important. Trusting fate. Like, I, there was Like, even times where, like, I would get hurt in the gym. And I'd be, you know, if I had just not, you know, did that press or I'd stop one rep short, this wouldn't have happened.

But everything just, everything happens for a reason. You've got to learn to accept that and just move on. Like, just move on. Drop it. Move on. What's next? It's hard. And I understand why someone listening.

It could be harder, you know, when, you know, it's not necessarily as physical as the gym or something that you injure yourself. But when it's like love and that feeling of love or love loss or losing someone, like, I fully can relate to that directly. where like, I know why you might feel like it's a thousand times harder to let go, but it's like everything in time, I promise you everything in time will allow you to understand the circumstances that like are given to you and they start to make more sense. And again, like I told you guys earlier, it took me 20 years to, for certain things in my life to make sense. So there's no right time on this.

And that's one of the most important things to take away from. I think this whole podcast is your timing is never when you want it to be, but it's when you need it. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good closing line. Yeah, it's far. Yeah, you're funny. You appreciate that kind of shit. I love you for that.

Okay, that's it. Thank you guys for coming on the show. I appreciate it. Hopefully do it again. If you guys liked it, drop a thumbs up, leave a good review. Also, if you're on iTunes, drop a fucking, you know, a comment, I think, like a five-star. And if you're on YouTube, fucking post notifications, all that good shit every Tuesday, 11 a.m. I appreciate all the fucking support.

Thank you guys. And thank you, boys, for being on the podcast. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Much love. forget to submit questions at ask we're all talk at gmail.com yeah yeah nice plug thank you i was oh i wasn't blasted during that podcast i promise you were you weren't no i just it's hilarious how after every podcast you say that was dope it was dope that's what it was that's

amazing podcast is the shit dude this is my favorite talk to a lot of shit you're from like anxiety the damn uh taxes sucking and yeah yeah it's like relationship you guys lost me at one point i'm not gonna lie which one when you guys started saying a bunch of i don't know what the fuck supplements and shit like that i was like oh supplements like whatever hormones and all that shit no i know they'll get it but there's probably going to be a few people that are just as confused as i was you guys were just saying words like oh yeah and then i don't know so like yeah i was like that the bros know the bro's no okay but there's not just bros watching this that's where i said there is i got you boys

don't worry one girl dm me the other day and was like yo i know there's not a lot lot of girls but like I really appreciated and like shout out to that girl that one girl no I see comments all the time they're like I just found it I love it and I'm like one of the two girls there's six comments I'm like do it like yeah it's like nine six four mine is 90 everything it's all dudes it's dope where you get that gene from I don't know I was on the floor and then I just started playing with it I know your 88 B was yeah it's that's right it was in his own though yeah everyone's pulling up I got a shower I got a shower all right and the shit yeah okay we're out here all right and the shit yeah

out of here fucking sub to the goddamn channel let's go be oh excuse me not got jib goddain't sorry sorry uh sub channel right alice