RAWTALK - Bradley Martyn Vs Brendan Schaub

Episode Date: November 23, 2021

Get a Punch out of life with Brendan Schaub! As we enter the octagon of the fighter, comedian, entrepreneur, fellow podcaster and father. He speaks on the take downs of life and the constant work he puts in to get where he wants to go.SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://vm.TikTok.com/TTPdQbEqVX/FOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

old things. That's actually amazing. Yeah, these are customs, dog. Because I shot my special last week in Dallas. So whenever I do a special, I do a custom, you know, I'm a sneakerhead. Yeah, yeah. Are you going? You're on? Okay, yeah. So, yeah, I shot my special on Dallas. So whenever I do a special, I always do like a custom shoe.

You always have, like, fly shoes? Always. Because I see you the gym every time. You have, like, how many shoes do you have? Right, between 250, 300, but like fire shoes. I'm going to sneak your head So it's like I collect them And it all stems from childhood So yeah

Before we get into this For those of you who don't know Brennan's job ladies and gentlemen You do everything I'm exhausted Yeah and this is one thing before Because I want to kind of talk to you a little bit I've never actually had this conversation with you

Like because I've talked to you many times in my gym But never actually had this kind of conversation to do Like just in real life about your upbringing your childhood Where you've been Yeah come from Yep But before we get in this conversation to that I want to say like the number one thing that strikes me about you as a person after

knowing you for I don't know it a year and a half two years yeah yeah um you've been at the gym zoo culture but you you definitely seem to be and like myself a lot at least on the internet like a little bit misunderstood maybe just even in the world a little misunderstood in the sense of I mean we talked this one time and you were saying how you have so much like business sense and you have so much, like, businesses you've created. Obviously, all the podcasts you've done, the stuff you've produced, I don't even think people understand or know about how much. But have you ever struggled?

Like, do you struggle, like, growing up or do you struggle now with people, like, seeing you obviously your physical stature, like, you were a fighter? You did all these things. Like, you might be looked at it. Some people as, like, a meathead. Obviously not the people who really know you. Sure. But I just find it interesting because I don't think there's a lot of people who know,

you know, because you were joking with me. You're like, you know, someone was thinking like, did your brother do all this stuff, set up all these businesses? So I guess my question is like, where did all that come from? Like obviously the competitive nature, I think I know about you that you have it so strongly. For sure. But where along the line in your life where you're like, I want to own my own stuff? Because this is like for people listening, everyone like they want to be a UFC fighter, right?

Or they want to be a podcast or they want to do social influencing or they want to be a fitness person or they want to be whatever on the internet. And to go from where you went in sports and in competitive fighting and then like doing everything and also understanding the back end and how it works and what you need to do to succeed is is crazy. So I just want to understand like where did that start for you to start to realize like you had to understand those things to be truly successful? Yeah. So I think two parts there. So A, the misunderstanding, I'm sure you get it too, right? Because the way I found your gym was in the high of the pandemic, you know, everything.

you know we're in LA for those of you don't know we're in LA so it was like North Korea here shut down yeah nothing's open yeah I was like yeah I need to work out man to do something then one of my boys one of my uh features on the road with me uh Chappelle goes dude that someone sent me this gym says you need to go up there uh this guy similar to Brendan so he sends it to me and I and I was like zoo culture I'm like dude that's like a mile from my fucking house yeah he's it go up there man I was like fuck it so I go up and like holy shit this is my live then you and I met and I was like oh shit yeah it was like that spider-man meme yeah we're like yeah this is we were boys right away yeah so I I think as far as like you know

people may be misunderstanding I don't worry too much about that at all because people know me know what's up of course and then as far as like the the work ethic stuff and owning your own stuff my dad you know I'm the dumb one of the family so my my brother's a computer programmer my My dad is a computer programmer, start his own company. But he was a police officer, you told me, right? No, my father-in-law's police officer.

My bad, okay, your father-in-law. So my father created, like, basically, like, any of the high-security email encrypted emails that, like, the government uses or, like, jewelry stores, like, sense of material, he designed all that, like, in early, like, late 80s, like, early 90s. So my dad's wicked smart.

So I'm a dumb one. So I'm the dumb one. But my dad is, like, the ultimate businessman. The ultimate, so when I was 10, I grew up in Venice in the summers, because my uncle had a house here. So I'd go to like Gold's Gym. I grew up in that and he was a professional bodybuilder. So I grew up in that atmosphere. Wait, wait.

Who was a professional bodybuilder? My uncle. Your uncle. Okay. So I grew up in the summers, being around my uncle who's insanely successful in a crazy business band. And then my dad, too. And I remember I was. And a bodybuilder.

And I remember my dad. I was like 10 or 12 and around the beach. And my dad's like, again, I'm 12, dude. Around the beach. And you know what the difference through me and you is? Like what? He goes, I'm making. money right now. And it was like a Thursday afternoon while we're on the beach. I'm like,

all right. You know, I was 12. What the fuck. Wait, your dad said that dude? Like your dad, your father. It was like a flex, but him also being like, you got to get to level where you were 12. I was 12. What the fuck? I'm making money right now. I was like, okay. Wait, wait, wait. You were 12 years old. He said at 12. Yeah. Wow. I love it. Yeah, but that's just him instilling me like, like you're chilling having your time. I'm also chilling having your time, but I'm also making money. He's kind of teaching you something. Teaching me. Yeah. Yeah. So, I think my dad just always been like that, you know, that hustler, man. That's, like, that work ethic, and I can't stand it, especially now that I'm a comic.

And Rogan has said this or other, like, cry or sugar, like, yeah, he'll take his professional athlete work ethic, and, you know, that's what he brings to comedy. That's why he got so far, so fast. But I could have been a UPS, man. I could work for Best Buy, Starbucks. Like, that work ethic is no matter what I was doing. That comes with everything. And you think that was instilled through your father?

110. Any other people in your life that was... My uncle, my uncle Pax, who passed away just because he was, you know, he was, they called him Mr. Venice. He was six-time, Mr. Universe. My aunt was four-time. This is the universe. So, like, when I was, like, from ages eight to, like, 21, I was there in the summer. And he had me up at 5 a.m. It's egg whites and run on the beach.

And we go to Golds twice a day. And it's just like that, almost like that Arnold, like, you know, like, pumping iron lifestyle. The best. Yeah, but it's just this work ethic that was just like, this is what, this is how it is, man. Is this how you got into sports? Because I know you were, like, active in football. Yeah, super active. So in sports, I grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood in Aurora, Colorado.

Yeah. And the only way to be, like, cool is to be good at sports. I hadn't be gifted. So, wait, when did you move there? Because you were in Venice when you were 12. I would only go there in the summers. So the school year, I was in Aurora, Colorado. Okay.

So my school, when I was a kid, was always in Aurora, Colorado. So in Aurora, like, it was predominantly black neighborhood. So, like, the only way to be, like, cool or get into. attention would be good at sports yeah so this is how much of a cycle I am I was athletically gifted I realized like I was fast and could catch and had coordination but I we'd play in the grass and the girls would like watch us and I realized the guys who were good at football got the girls of course of course so I was like man I keep slipping how gangster is this in fourth grade I brought my oh no I brought my so I wore my cleats to

school so if I'd walk through the hallways and it was like clanking everyone's making fun I'm like, all right, bitch, wait to recess. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, how old are you in fourth grade? I've had to, I don't know what I'm saying? How old are we in fourth grade? 10? 10, 11?

So I knew, I was like, all right, bitch, keep talking shit. And they were, like, making fun of me because the teacher's like, you can't. You know what's funny about this right now? The fact that you're a sneaker ahead? Super sneaker. Now, but you were, you were flexing back then. You had cleats. And everyone was making fun of me, and the recess came, and your boy went off.

You're like, so funny now, is it? So I wore those every day for the rest of the year. But what's great about that, my mom loved it because we didn't grow up with a lot of money. Because they were the molded cleats, and when you wear them, not on grass, they wear down. So by the end of the year, they wore down. My mom's like, see, you got shoes now. I just wore those McGregor cleats that turned into shoes. But at this age, like, it wasn't, I mean, you obviously weren't out here like having sex.

You were like, you were just trying to impress them because, like, they thought it was cool. They thought it was cool. And I was like the token, cool, athletic white guy. And then to me, I was like, oh, this is. Like, all right, this is, that's what I'm good at. So that's what I'm going to do. But then on the flip side of that, my mom was always really, like, artsy and funny. So she wanted for me to be like Adam Sandler or Chris Farley.

Yeah. She wanted me to be on Saturday Night Live. So it was this weird dynamic where I was the funny, like, athletic guy, you know, but I was, it's almost a blessing curse because I was good at athletics. Like, that was my focus and it took me some great things, man. You almost did the NFL, right? Yeah, so I had a cappuccino with the Buffalo Bills. and then they're like yeah they're like we're all set on slow white guys are like say less

and then I got my stuff and got out of there but you know you had a shot the NFL man a lot of people can't say that yeah it's dope you know it's funny because a lot of people I know who like would have a shot would totally like play that up so much not me yeah you're I've been there so I know guys who lie about like yeah I was going to go to the NFL yeah I got hurt man no I literally they were just like we're all set on white tight ends dude yeah like you're good I was like broke my heart though but those are like life lessons because it was like, you know, as a kid, like my heroes were like junior say out and all these NFL guys. And I thought, God, if I just get the NFL, it's going to be

like, you know, Willie Wonka's Chocolate Factory. Like when that kid gets in the factory, like, I'm going to be like, this is it, baby. And it was not like that. My experience is more like Vince Popoli from Invisible when you get there and they don't have your name on your jersey. And I was like, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, so, so when did you spell my name wrong? They're like, we don't care. He was like, does it matter? You just put the fucking thing on. I was like, all right, dude so so when did you start to find like your love for comedy because i know that like you did you started to get into fighting and you you you what you did jiu jitsu for like what how many months before you started finding six months or something like that uh i was doing jitsu when i was

playing football at the university of colorado just to stay in shape and then was like had this weird knack for it was like a natural yeah like how but how do you go from like you're playing football you're doing jiu jitsu i understand jitsu obviously and then fighting but you did it didn't you do an amateur fight like within like i don't know like six six seven months or I did Golden Gloves boxing the tournament within like three months of training and ended up winning it. Training boxing? No, I was even training. I was like, I was boxing because I was doing MMA, but I wasn't like focus on boxing.

And then my boy, Shane Carwin, who became UFC heavyweight champ, he goes, hey, that golden gloves, because we always talk about golden gloves boxing, which back in the day was a big deal. It was like the biggest amateur tournament in the nation. And he goes, hey, that golden gloves is next Saturday. I'm like, yeah, no, it's crazy. Right? He's like, yeah, I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, dude. And how much boxing experience did you have?

months of like sparring with him and like not much fucking around the gym pitting pads not much and then i was selling supplements door to door at the time because remember what supplements i cut from the i got cut from the NFL i was selling uh uh hard nutrition supplements supplements with my boy brad pite who created muscle farm whoa whoa he created muscle farm after that obviously yeah that's what turned into muscle farm so what the brad started together with hard nutrition i went on to do my thing he went on to start muscle farm holy shit yeah so So me and him were selling door to door. But like, I was doing that when I got cut.

So I was selling supplements store door, but then I would train in MMA and Jiu Jitsu. And then my boy signed me up for Golden Gloves. And then I remember, I was like, I kind of want to fight. My dad was like, you're an idiot. Like you have a double major. Like, what are you doing? You double major than what?

Business and sociology. Okay. So my dad was like, use your degree, you idiot. And I was like, no, I know, let me just try this. And I told my dad, I said, if come to, because he didn't come to anything. Like you know my Jiu's tournaments before that. Like if, if I said, if you come to Golden Gloves and I lose, I'll do it.

I'll work for you. I'll do her the fuck you want. He's like, all right. So he came. I just happened to. What does your mom think about all this stuff? Comedy, my mom, like, has always been so supportive. She's like, I've been telling you this since you were fucking four years old.

You're going to be a stand-up comment. Yeah. So she's all about that. The fighting she hated. She came to my first professional fight ever, which is, which was in Brumfield, Colorado. And I knocked the guy out in like, I don't know, like 26 seconds. And I saw my mom like, mom like, mom. Wow, wouldn't that great?

She's like, yeah, how many more do you have tonight? I'm like, what? No, that's it. She's like, I drove all the way here for that shit. For that quick knockout. Yeah, that's good. She's like, oh, fuck this. Never came again.

That's so fucking. But did she pay for parking and driving at? But does she not want you to do it? Or she just was like, she was just like, what are you doing? Why you do it? And they didn't think there's money in it. You know, like what are you doing? Yeah.

Is there, was there money in your fighting career? As far as like pay days that I got from the UFC, not really. Well, it depends, like, depends. Like, for the average person, like, oh, you made, you know, 40 grand to fight fucking Nogara? Like, that's crazy. It's not that. So what was your, I wanted to ask you this is a question I really wanted to know.

Before you go, my money came from, uh, sponsorship. So like, I would get, let's say, 50 grand to fight a monster to fight him. But my brand deals were like six figures. Okay, so let me ask you this. And my other question, I'll wait. So you, like at the time, what year was this? in fighting uh to like 2000 uh 2012 to 2011 to 2014 who were the most popular fighters at that time do you remember brock lesner k ds kane blasquez john jones so okay so you were you were a heavyweight

obviously um so did a lot of those fighters get good money brand deals like because of like did how did you work that some of them did i just always had a knack for marketing so i was like And you did it yourself. Like they came to you or you came to them. And then I would pitch them on it. And then I'd be like, let me show you. I could do marketing wise. I'd cut a promo for them or I would just go over the top.

And I'm like, right, we're in. So you were selling yourself? Always. Do you think like a lot of fighters miss out and missed out on that? Like in your time? I know now people know that that's a thing because like social media.

Even now they're not great with it. But it's also like what's sad is they shouldn't have to do that. Like a lot of these fighters should be being paid for what they're supposed to do, which is win fights. Yeah. But now because Connor McGregor came who's, this fucking unicorn which he's a he's a green elephant amongst the rest of them yeah he just knew how to fucking make it entertaining a he had the talent yeah god-given talent

he's a once in a lifetime type of fighter then b he was just fucking wicked at marketing so then people see him make all this money and be the face of the ufc so then these guys are like oh i'm gonna do that but it's not natural to them yeah but then the ufc it's a double-edged shorts the ufc's like look how much this guy's making be like connor so you have these guys where it's not in their you know kind what they do it's not in their wheelhouse and they're like talking shit and like what are you doing do you do you think ufc fighters are underpaid 100 they so this is where it gets dicey because they are and they aren't like you know the report just came out the ufc had their biggest quarter ever which is good for them then i love the ufc by the way i fucking love it my business around

the ufc yeah i'm a ufc i'm a ufc alumni there's no fucking incredible ride with or fuck with harder than the ufc yeah so when it comes to pay like i think it's easy for the common person like oh dude they're underpaying them they should be paying them this but at the end of day and Dana says the same thing you don't know what the fuck you're talking about I don't know what goes on behind the scenes I don't know how much they're paying for the venues I don't I don't any of that yeah now could they pay more I assume but I don't know but I do know is when these fighters try to start unions and all that stuff and they've reached out to me big boys have reached out to me like jump on board and when you go through it you're like oh

you guys well here's the thing I know I mean I know Dana I don't know I'm super super well but it does make sense like on the business side of things that they've also built that name and that brand's so large and it's so like successful that now the brand is exactly so now at this point just like the NFL yeah so I do understand it's like okay you can't ask for more

for sure but at the same time you also have to respect the value that the platform that you're fighting on now correct and you know I think it's easy to knock Dana on the fighter pain stuff like that but you know I don't think I'd do anything different if I'm him yeah it's not like go tell fucking Steve Jobs before he died like dude you need to pay these workers more he's like but why he's like yeah I also

created like what do you want me to do I like a life trillions of jobs yeah so for Dana it's like what are you talking about I give these guys a platform like I create all this have you ever have beef with Dana White we we've had beef we've had beef and it's weird because I was talking this big manager who works with the biggest guys and it's so weird because like we had beef like I don't know like four years ago but you know he's he's worth all the money in the world I'm doing good like you know I look at it like now to backtrack when I I left the UFC because they, one of the reasons I left, not the main reason. One of the reason I left when they signed that Reebok deal, all my sponsorships went away.

So at that point, they made, fighters could not have their own brand deals, right? And so you just get a, you know, a payment from Reebok. Is it still that way? Yes. Still that way. So you can't. You're paid higher, but you can't have any outdoor sponsors. So how come people, I see people like Ngano and stuff, people have like Venom shorts?

They have like Monster or Crypto.com or something like that. Yeah. That's a UFC sponsor. They like only, the UFC select who. they want to work with and you get paid a little more but still not like back in the day got it so back in the day there was more money for fighters who were more ambitious with their own brand deals okay yep and they got rid of that because they didn't want to look like NASCAR and shit like that they went more professional which obviously they sold for whatever three billion dollars so they know

what the fuck they're doing but at the time for me I had a chip do how to stack of pringles on my shoulder because when I retired I was like watch what I'm going to do but that gave me the fire to get to where I was going to get so now that I'm on the outside looking in like I've like again that manager was like, you know, I know you and Dana have problems. I'm like, I don't know where that narrative keeps coming from. I love that, dude. I have no issues with Dana. This is the thing I'm talking about being misunderstood.

Like, I can personally relate to so many situations. Yeah, but it's like, but that's how the news goes. Like, you're talking about four years ago? He's supposed to be, he's worth $400 million. Yeah. I'm doing fine. Like, what anima? Like, we're both good, man.

Yeah. Like, I don't need anything from him. He doesn't need anything for me. I have no animosity towards him in any facet. If he called me, it was like, hey, Brendan, we need you do this. to promote the show next week. Yeah, you got it. Whatever he wants, man.

I have zero animosity. I like the guy. Yeah. Dude, my show's built off his platform. Yeah. I have zero. So it's like this, you know, like, you're talking about shit from four years ago. Like, what are we doing?

Yeah. I love DNA Y, man. You have no issue with it. So, so I'm wondering, like, where along the lines were you like, I want to do comedy? Because like, obviously, like, were you a funny kid growing up your whole life? Because I was, I'm definitely not, I'm not ever. I don't think I'm a comedian, but I remember growing up kind of like the class clown, the kid who make people laugh, and I'd find enjoyment in that.

Did you grow up like that? Yeah, I was the funny guy in the locker room. And then to me also, I'm surrounded by the funniest people in the world. So I moved to L.A. While I was fighting the UFC, I started doing a podcast with Brian Callan, who's a stand-up comedian. Right. You know, comedic actor. Yeah.

How do you get into that circuit? Like, how did you get into the circuit with Brian and Joe? Me and Brian, so I was a coach on the Ultimate Fighter. they bought Brian in to make the kids laugh on the ultimate fighter yeah got a coach on there Brian and I went to dinner that night and me and him were just talking I was talking about comedy he's like I didn't realize you knew so much about comedy I'm like yeah I love it dude I'd love to try it and blah blah and then he was like oh well you live in Denver right I'm like I'm actually moved to L.A. next week and I was just sold all my shit in

Denver was going to drive to L.A. And I was like I'm actually moving to L.A. next I'll be here Wednesday and it was man let's grab coffee and I remember driving to LA I stay at my uncle's house and he lived in San Francisco so I was at my uncle's house where I grew up as a kid and it's just this empty house and I thought I made a terrible choice I was crying and I had no friends at what age what age is this to like 20 27 maybe 26 and then I remember I was like oh I got that comedian's number I text him I was like hey man still down for a cup of coffee I'm in L.A and he responded back like three seconds later I was like thirsty much so then you know he I'm not going to lie to

he responded me super quick. Super quick. I was like, God damn, dude, show a little pride. Play hard to get a little bit, I said,

you had to get you on my podcast. I was like, the bubbles was already there. Yeah, he's like, and say less. Like he was waiting on my text message. I was like,

yo, this guy waiting for this shit. He was all send nudes. Jesus Christ, dude. But so yeah, so you mean him when he got coffee and he was like,

oh, I do this like radio thing podcast on my garage. You should come on. Is this when you first found out about podcasting? I didn't know what it was. Okay.

And no one, You know, it wasn't big. You're talking 10 years ago, dude. No, it was literally beginning. Yeah, so I go to his garage. You do this thing. We had this weird chemistry. And he's like, dude, that's the best show I've ever done.

We need to do this once a week. I'm like, I ain't getting rid of ass once a week. And he's like, no, we'll do it. And you'll break down fighting. And he just didn't know me at the time ago. Anybody knows me knows, like, especially when I was fighting. I don't want to talk about fighting, dude. That's all I fucking eat, sleep and breathe.

Yeah. And we talk about comedy and fashion and sneakers. And he's like, okay. And then we started fighting in the kid. And that was fucking damn there 10 years ago So you've been doing podcasting for 10 years Damn near, yeah One of the OGs before everyone in their fucking stepmom

Had a podcast Yeah, because I started podcasting four years ago I would just, you know, I just told you about I wasn't able to be super consistent with it Because of my circumstances And like the friend group changing And all that kind of shit But by far this is my favorite form of time

I mean, since like two days in time I'm like, you need a podcast And I never tell anybody that Because we have enough podcasts in the world Yeah, that's the thing. So that's the thing I want to, I want to, I want to, there's, everyone's making a podcast now. Yeah, but, you know, like the, the cream rises at the top, man. Like, so, you know, it's good because you can, you know, you cut out the middleman.

So Hollywood's kind of dying in that aspect. Yeah, you don't need some big producer to go, yeah, that's a good idea. You should do this. Like, it's literally you're a direct, there's no middleman. You have a direct access to your fans. Yeah. There's no better way to do it. So my entire business is direct access to the fans.

There's no middleman in anything. I do, whether it's, you know, merch or the podcast or selling tickets to my comedy shows or even my special. It's not a network going, hey, make sure you watch Brendan. It's me telling you where to find it. You're going to see how it was produced. And there's so much power in that. And there's so much like the ownership, you know, it's like an artist having their masters or something like that. But I like the pressure. Like, it's all on you. Yeah. I fucking love it. So, so let's talk about that a little bit. Like obviously the success, people, people who know you who have been involved in your, you know, your ecosystem for years, they know how much you've done.

I don't even know if they know how much, but talk a little bit about, because I know you produce shows that you're not even on, and you have how many podcasts that you're actually on that I'm on and own. So there's, there's fighting the kid, there's fighting the kid, fight companion, uh, it's Calabas's Fight Companion, uh, Below the Belt, Food Truck Diaries, King the Sting. And you're, so you post, so, like, I'm curious, like, just so people listening, I think people have this perception of like, I, I, I, I, I, I've talked about this probably a few times on podcasts and just in general on the internet

of like content creators or people like us essentially I was almost like it's so easy because they see us sitting and talking. Oh no. So how many episodes do you film a week? A week? Yeah.

So shit, man. So especially if there's a fight, let's say it's a fight companion, which I do once twice a month, but you've been on twice. Yes, it's amazing. There's so much fun. Amazing.

So every Monday, it's I do blow the belt at 8 a.m. I get done with that. Then I have, firing the kid and then on Tuesdays I have King in the Sting every other week

I do a food truck so that'd be on Tuesday too so that's four about the time I get to Tuesday Wednesday's firing the kid and then then I kind of chill or I'll be on tour

and then if there's a big fight then do a fight campaign Saturday so you're looking at five to six shows you know so you're looking at I don't know man was that 12 hours of work just like talking work

so without sounding cliche and then remember I still have to write for stand-up You know, I know. I just have to go on the road and develop an hour. And also the backend stuff, your business stuff, all the employees. Oh, then, I just launched whiskey. Like, it's, what's the name of the whiskey?

It's called Tiger Thick. Tiger Thick. So, so it's about my son. And then also my brand is thick. So what's interesting about that is, same with you. Like, everything you do, like, you know, like when you want to start, it's so funny, you want to talk about it. I wasn't going to get into it.

But it's, so it's like merch or, like, podcast, whatever it is. like you'll have a vision and then it's like yep and then you have the team the resource to get it done well with alcohol it's like it's like fucking yellowstone it's like john dutton on the ranch like there's all these previous landowners dude and they've been there for hundreds of years oh yeah and for you to break land and get in there buried an she's massive dude is it's like the distribution and like in my head i was like oh it's direct consumer i'll make my whiskey i'll make sure it's fucking late. Yeah, I'll put on Shopify and sell it. And it's like, no, bitch. What? No. So it's like, I didn't know this. And then yesterday I'm on calling my team and we're going through it. And it was

like, oh, we got work to do, dude, which I'm never afraid of. But I was like, oh, this is a different beast, which I love the challenge. And I literally just before this, that's why I had to push back to two, we're just due at one. Because I was on the call with these distributors. Yeah, who, you know, and it's like, dude, you're not going to like come out with a whiskey and that's available nationwide. Yeah, no, no. Oh, bitch. You're going to start in tech. Texas, California, New York, and then we'll see how it goes. You have to prove to them. You have to continue to buy it.

Yeah. Because it's so competitive, dude. Everyone in their brother has a... You're going to have to show up to places. Yeah, I'm going to have to pitch it on it, which I have no problem doing. Yeah. But it's just like, you know, I'm a white belt in this black belt world of whiskey and liquor. And it's just like, oh, you...

Oh, hey, bitch, you're not George Clooney. Like, you got some shit to do. You're not the rock, bitch. Like, we're just not going to buy this. It'll humble you, man. Because you know what I'm saying? Like you'll see like, you know, Kendall Jenner, like fucking George Clooney where it like sells right away. Yeah, of course.

They're like, bitch, you're not the rock. They're like, hold on, dog. Yeah, you can fly out here. You're tall, motherfucker. But you ain't the rock, bro. Yeah, they're like, are you the UFC guy? You're like, oh, no. Yeah.

I do some podcasts. Yeah, I'm like, oh, no. No, but let's talk about success because I think a lot of people are always who watch these podcasts. I know are interested. Obviously in you as a person, which is why a lot of them are here. Me, probably as a person, which is why hopefully a lot of them are here. but what do you think is the most important and it's like again I don't want you just

I don't want just to sound cliche but I think it's really important to ask these questions what do you think is the most important thing in order to really find success in your life air conditioning do you not have it in here we do it's hot as fuck no the reason why I turn up I ain't go lie to you is because is it too loud for the same no honestly I'll tell you the truth I'll tell you the truth you know how messy that room is yeah it's a fucking tornado went out so I I kept that door shut

so just because aesthetically it was gonna fuck you up and the side view that would have me not When I, when I have the AC on and that door shut, it goes like, I feel you. No way, yo, open that up. No, what power through it? It's all. No, no, no, no. I promise.

I can tell you're getting hot. Oh, I got. All these fucking lights. Yeah, open up and turn, go around the corner and turn the AC on. I'm sorry, guys. A little. You're fine, dude. Yeah.

He's like, yo, I'm fucking air conditioning. No, that's definitely one of them. There's no doubt about air. AC is an extreme important. You're not happy. You're not doing success. But I want to know, like, what? What do you think you can attribute in your life?

Like what, what like major points in your life are you like, oh, I see this? Because obviously that conversation you have with your father. Yeah. When you were 12 years old and he said, you see what I'm doing. Yeah. It's crazy. Slight flex, but yeah. Super flex, but also a good learning moment for you.

Learning experience. Like what do you think you learn along the way? And what's the most important part for your success at least? Yeah. And I'll just be honest. I feel a little awkward and people are like, oh, tell us about success because I don't feel successful at all. Okay.

I relate to that. At all. And I think because I'm surrounded by fucking Wolverines, dude, like, you know, like my brother's Joe Rogan and fucking Tom Seguer and Bert Kreisher and Chris DeLea and all these monsters. Yeah. And I don't, I don't view them as competition. Andrew Schultz, right? And Theo. So, like, I'm surrounded by just these, these brilliant, brilliant men.

And I feel so stupid around them. So I feel like, like, it's awkward for me to talk about success. but then sure I think I think you know I'm on my way no doubt I think I think for me and I will say this besides and I don't think it's fair to say that because there's a lot of those guys work their ass off but besides Joe Rogan who's insane no one has a better work ethic though it's not by a mistake yeah nobody has a crazy I don't give a fuck whether you're you want to talk about the mama mentality dude he's that but outside the basketball court yeah on all aspects so so compared to

him, I'm not shit. I'm the fat guy on the couch. But take Joe out of it. I'm the outlier where this would like with comedy. I've been doing it seven years now. But my work ethic in seven years is probably similar to other comics to it 14 years. Like as far as my stage time and the work ethic and what goes into it in the writing like what they've done in 14, I've probably been able to accomplish in seven. So you think it's it's strictly about work ethic? 100% work ethic. Yeah. 100%. What sort of like with everything like yeah, because I'm too embarrassed to fail. you know what I'm saying yeah fuck like this whiskey like with those distributors I was like don't get me wrong I know this isn't take work I know it's gonna be a beast but I promise you

I'll find my way in there yeah whether you guys say no that's all good say no see what happens man what do you think you develop that relationship of failure the freight the being sports I totally I think I think sports and then like feeling embarrassed and like you know like as a kid you know I have kids now I think the number one thing you just want them to be quote unquote losers like you don't want them to like waste their lives you know what I'm saying yeah of course yeah yeah I Have you ever at any moment in your life felt like you were wasting time or wasting your because, because listen, as successful as people might see me or whatever, obviously I feel

like I have so much more to go. But like there's been, there's been moments where I'm like, fuck man, what am I doing? Even though I was actively doing things that I thought were really important and necessary for my own success, there are still moments where I've just had like, I know if it's my own anxiety or just my own like, you know, criticalness on myself. But have you ever felt like, fuck, what am I doing? No, not really. I know I'm on the right path.

I know it's just going to take time. Like patience is key and I feel like I'll get there. It might take me longer in certain aspects, but I'll get there. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm afraid to work. Yeah, of course. So the comedy thing, like, I've always been curious about this because obviously I'm not a fucking comedian. I don't really know enough.

I know enough comedians. But do you spend like, like how many hours a day are you working on comedy? Do you think like, because you have to write, because like if you do a standup, I've always been curious about this. because I know some guys who I think are really funny and they could be great, I think they would be great stand-ups. But obviously, like... It's different.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't understand that aspect. You know how your friend's like really athletic? You're like, dude, I'm picking him first when we play basketball and he's fucking terrible. That's how like, it's like and everyone thinks they're funny. Everybody. This is... But there's a difference between professional funny, like entertaining a crowd, like in Philly,

who doesn't want to be entertained and they're drunk and a rowdy, converting them to having a good time. And then at the barbecue with your family and friend and you're the funny guy. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. That's completely different. Different animal. But going into the crowd in Philly who's like, they're like, they're drunk and they're like make

me laugh, motherfucker. Which I love. It's like, so what do you do to develop that like core like? I think reps. And then also I think what has really helped me out as a. Practice. You're saying practice. Practice.

Yeah. Just getting up like. And then for like for me, I was thrown to the fucking sharks right away because a lot of my like stage time was at the comedy store. So you're talking about the mecca of comedy. Yeah, how did you get there so fast? Because of your relationships? That and then also the way I got into comedy is Brian Call and myself.

And Brian was a successful comic before me. He selling seven tickets or whatever. But me and him would do live... He was selling tickets. He was doing seven tickets and I came along. Anyway, so I mean him, I got on stage first by me and him doing live firing the kids. But they weren't live podcasts. They were live comedy performances.

And we'd start everyone with me telling a story for 10 minutes, was basically my open mics, me doing stand-up for 10 minutes. But I didn't realize that at the time. And then me and him, it got to level where we were doing Chicago Theater, Vic Theater, which is like 4,000 people. And we're like, whatever, like 10, 15 shows deep at this point on tour. And I turn around and I go, hey, dude, what should I do for my story? I'm trying to think of a story.

He goes to your time about your stand-up. And I was like, no, no, what? No. I'm talking about like when I go out and tell the story, he's like, oh, Bubba, I just didn't want to scare you. You're doing stand-up. I was like, you son of a bitch. And then that's when it flipped, I'm like, holy fuck, I can do this.

This is almost like the guy when you're like, because my buddy of the day, one of the athletes for Rugger, we had six plates on the bar, six plates and something. And I was like, yeah, that's 500 pounds. It was not 500 pounds. Yeah. But in his mind, he was like, oh, yeah, I could do that. I've done like this in the past. Yeah. And then I was like, yeah, just do it.

Just pull it. Put a belt on and pull it. He didn't warm up at all. And he did it. And then we were like, yeah, that's, say that was like 600 pounds. He was like, what the fuck? Yeah. It's the same concept.

That's how you got pushed into it. live firing the kid at the comedy store and it went great and I had a good set and um the crowd loved it when you knew it was comedy though did it give you did it make it more nerve racket fired me up because I was like yes here we go and I called my mom he's like hey mama and because she's always wanted me to do it so then I was at the comedy store and we did a live one though it went great then two weeks goes by and the booker for the comedy store Emily goes she called me and she goes hey this is emily from the comedy store she goes uh are you interested in we have a spot open in the belly room which is a small room she goes we have set in the belly room uh you just got to do

four minutes and i'm so stupid and naive i didn't know how it works i go oh let me call brian see if he's available and she goes no dumb ass just you yeah we saw you on stage the night just you i'm like oh shit here we go so what was that my first set were you were you were you nervous super nervous because i'm such a comedy nerd and i know like the legacy there and like i knew like i'd get some push back like get into the comedy store that fast stuff like that but that's never bothered me but it went well but it didn't go great but it went good enough where it didn't uh like scare me away from it because i was like oh i can if i work on this can do it and do it and so then i was i'd go home and i'd do my sit in the mirror a million times then i'd get up at the laugh fact

in the comedy and then remember when i'm a year or two years in comedy i'm getting pushed in there and i have to follow joey dyes and mark mary and joe rogan and bert crier and tom legends the best but the best of the best the best what's what's your relationship like with joe i know he kind of like he's like a mentor like older brother like i talked to him damn every day that's great yeah i remember you were going to you were going to get the um the spot down the street from the land yeah i was going to take over his studio space and that shit fell out yeah just because like you know jo's such a powerhouse and like i love being associated with him he's done so much for my career but

But you don't want to be, you know, that tied to somebody. You do no matter who it is. Right, right. So as much as I want to take over spot and, like, you know, carry on his legacy, stuff like that, I need to do my own thing. Which is why, you know, my favorite show ever to do out of anything I've ever done my life, no matter what it was, is the fight companions. Fucking amazing. And so me, it was always, the original crew was Joe Rogan, Eddie Bravo, Brian Call and myself. And it's like this special mix.

And we're all so close. And we had so much fun and people loved it. Yeah. And when he moved to Austin, I called him. I was like, dude, I know in lockdown and you moved to Austin. Like, we got to start these fight campaigns again, dude. Like, I miss it. This is important because I, you know, I know how it's funny.

Like, I don't know if I can put you. I'm going to put you on blast fucking. When we do the podcast, you're like, yo, don't read all these comments because there's a lot of negative shit. The number one thing was people are like, oh, he's doing it because Joe Rogan did it. Joe Rogan's not doing it anymore. It's not the same. But I don't think people understand the perspective that he actually, didn't he tell you like, yo, you should do this. Yeah.

People don't know that though Just so you know People don't know that I don't care Of course you don't care But I feel you I just want to let the audience know No yeah

No it's by me doing that It's paying homage to him Right It's his idea I didn't start that Joe's brilliant It was the funest time I ever had Though days of Joe

Eddie Brian and me together Are no longer man Right He just can't go back My fucking heart It's the one thing If I talk about enough I'll fucking cry

It breaks my heart So for me, I have the resources now. I'm at a level now where I can do that. Is it just, is that that relationship, not the relationship, but did that that trifect that, that you guys, did it stop because of the distance? The distance, people got busy, COVID, people moved. Yeah.

Just the landscape moved. The entire, like, we were the comedy rap pack of the comedy store. Yeah, I remember it. And then when the lockdown happened, everyone went their own way, you know, that broke my heart, man. Yeah. I'm like, no, let's all stay to, where's everybody going? Yeah.

Like, we'll still do, and they're like, no, bitch, we're out of here. So then it was just like, I was so hurt, man. I was so hurt, and that's my own personal shit. And so I got to level where I like, I can do these fight companions myself. And I called Joe, got his blessing. He's like, run with it, dude. I was like, I'm going to call it Calabasas's fight companion. Yeah.

And I'm going to get my boys. So now, you know, have Brian in there who, you know, was on the original. Amazing. And he has Chris Delia, who knows nothing about fighting, but he's the most talented and funniest person in the fucking world. You know, we've had you on there. Yeah. So it's like, I have people. people that I have that I want to talk to like my friends are on there right and

that's why I do it yeah it's my favorite thing to do it's the most fun it's so fun it's bullshit sit there drink have bullshit it's like dude it's it's crazy because it reminds me of like if I just had like my boys over straight up at my house watching a fight there's just some cameras there that's how it feels and that's how it should feel like you want people to be like oh I'm tuning in to watch fights with Brendan but I'm at home like I don't know him but you feel like you're part of the crew and you'll see now and this is again I'm not taking credit for this is all joe rogan's idea you'll see now like monday night football does it right

with the paint manning podcast yes bro and you see the ufc does it now too yeah fight pass and you see you know the mb a fucking the bill simmons does it now with mb a like all these people are doing it but never forget who had the original idea yeah who started was the brilliance of joe rogan yeah and you were on that yeah so it's so it's great i just think it's so dope man how like just social media it in general and how like obviously podcasting it's it's like shaping broadcasting it's shaping like conversations it's shaping so much shit that it just it was never like this and like it's also giving so much power back to individuals such as yourself such as myself people which is huge so because before like

if you wanted to get your foot in Hollywood Hollywood's a fucking beast man so even like my boy Andrew Schultz just did a movie with Eddie Murphy for Netflix and Schultz like if you doesn't know who Andrew Shultz is. You're talking about like he's one of the greatest living comics alive. He's a hustler. I just hit him up on DMs the other day to come do the show. Why wouldn't you just text me? Like dude, I forgot. Put me and Shultzian on a group guy. He's so fucking funny. He's my guy.

Oh shit. Yeah. So this is what kind of guy Schultz is. So I'll shoot my 30 minute special. And he was I need to see it before you fucking shoot the special and make sure it's good. And he came out to L.A., sat in on my show and was like, all right, you're good to go. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's what type of guy Andrew Shultz is. So wait, wait. He came to be like, you like, help you verify this.

Yeah, he's like, I can't just put something out. No, that's my guy. Yeah, that's my guy. That's solid. But as far as, like, comics go, you know, and ticket sales and, like, there's nobody bigger than Joe Rogan. I'm sorry, bigger than Shultzzy besides, like, Rogan or Kevin Hart or something like that. But as far as, like, our group, he sells the most tickets. His podcast is the biggest number.

Yeah, he's huge, huge. He's enormous. He sold out Radio City Hall in New York, like, twice over. I love his type of comedy. He does huge theaters. You should go to a show that nobody puts on a better show. As far as production value, like, dude I just like how he doesn't give a fuck

He's a savage So he's huge dude Like amongst like my peers He's huge He's on a movie set with Eddie Murphy And all these big Hollywood actors I didn't know that I didn't even know that Yeah he's on a movie set

I just like this guy's fucking funny man No he's a beast So he's on that movie set And he was talking about on Flagrant 2 his podcast He's like dude they don't know who the fuck Like they have no idea who I am So I got a question

There's just like this weird disconnect With Hollywood And you know like The last one to know that their empire's crumbling is the king that's hollywood like for them not to know who sholts he is and like hate to tell you but besides eddie murphy he makes the most money on that fucking set yeah besides edie murphy i don't know who else is on there but i'd be willing to bet shultz makes the most money and if you walk the streets more people know who he is than

the rest of him besides edie murphy right but in hollywood like who the fucks this this what's he some young comic well it's so funny it's like they want to hold on they think they think they still have all the power i think and i think like you're going to hold on to that for as long as you can right But it's like at some point, you don't have it anymore. Even with my agents, I sold this show to this network. And they're like, all right, well, here's the time commitment. It's Monday through Friday. And you're shooting this.

I go, whoa, whoa, whoa. I can't commit to that. I got my shows that I own. And just so you know, doing that show that I get prepared for four days a week and shoot on Fridays, I'm losing this much money a week. They went, what? I'm like, yeah, dude. I'm going to lose money by doing that TV show.

Yeah. And they're like, no. I know we talked about this. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, dude. I can't do it like you turn it down like I can't do it it makes no sense it's like they don't it's like they have no clue they don't realize it's there they don't realize that the money that the actual like the power is there and then it sounds like you're flex on but it's literally

like just show like it's opportunity cost I mean you can't but it's also like you know I make how much you're paying me do that show once week I make that off merch in a day yeah like do you realize this yeah and I don't have to sit through you know and go through all these rewrites and the casting and all that like I can just post the shirt I have a question Do you think that You know, because the whole world now Is this this cancel culture All this cancel culture type shit

Because yeah This is this what I want to get into Hollywood though They like I feel like they live and die By cancel culture But started with them But yeah okay

So but but this form of Which like Andrew Schultz for example Like this guy The kind of shit he says Is still so fucking like You just can't even like Not to his audience though That's what I'm saying

Which is all that he gravitates towards So like that's the crazy part of it is that it's almost like because of the cancel culture that came from the mainstream it's almost pushed the power to the people who are actually creating the content but do you think like someone like that would ever could like could get canceled like what could cancel someone that is like obviously hourly being like talking about all the things that people are afraid of talking about not I don't think no words would do it like you know no words would do it you look at like Shane Gillis do you know Shane Gillis is no monster comic out of New York York, born in Philly. He just released his special himself on YouTube. It's over two million views. He's a monster. He's such a creative. He got started on set. He got accepted Saturday Night Live. They hired him on Saturday Night Live. Before he even started, Hollywood went into all his old videos and tweets and found a video of him saying something, you know, not great

about Asians. And they fired him before he even started. Well, what happens is in our culture, like the comedy like culture and the fan base and the podcast fan base goes, holy shit, you guys fucked up and they've rallied around him now and now his career is bigger than ever so so that's what i'm saying like so it would take like now i think cancel culture like it's slowly kind of fading away because people are sick of it and they realize like people make mistakes this isn't the way you treat people you don't kick people off the island for making one mistake and we're realizing it's no one's going to learn from that you're actually so if they're racist and they're not anymore but you cancel them because they said something when they were 16 right that person's probably going to get more racist you

know what I'm saying like it doesn't make sense you're not you're not making that a better well it's also it's assuming automatically that people just can't learn or can't grow or can't become better which is not a way to run it's like you think about the person if you're listening to this right now like who were you were you were 10 years ago are you the same person today you weren't insane so you know I think for a comic or act or anything you'd have to do something pretty major to get canceled these days but as far you know you're talking about like rape or something like that okay now yeah that's different but as far as words go like if you're still in Hollywood, you're going to get canceled if you're with words.

Did you hear about the football guy who, like, beat up his fucking girl recently? Yeah, I just yesterday. I saw the video. I would love to beat the fucking. Yes, that guy is a fucking piece of shit. Like, I'm not down to do any celebrity boxing matches, but I beat the shit. I'm for free. You saw that shit?

He threw her into the TV and then threw her on top of the kid thing. You know how fucked up I am because I've seen some bad shit in my life? In my head, I'm like, God, she's tough, man. That bitch is tough. Yeah, she's still like talking. She stood up. She's like, can you stop? She's like, would you just stop?

She's like, would you just stop? I would be like, ah, she was like, what are you doing? Like, she was like still in stock, cool, collected. It's in front of the kid. You know what I'm saying? Bro. That guy needs his ass who up. Yeah.

That's a fucking fact. Cancel that guy. That's what I'm saying. That's the kind of shit you can cancel people. That's a bad guy. But it's like, fuck, dude. That shit really fucking irked me. That's a bad guy.

If you watch that video, if you watch that got me. With sound, I was like, this guy's a scumb bag. Horrible. Piece of shit. Fucking crazy, man. So, cancel culture and comedy. Do you think that, like, I just feel like it doesn't have a place, though, in comedy, right?

You know, we talk about Dave Chappelle? Everyone's talking about Dave Chappelle, this community thing. No, no, we say everyone. Here's the thing. We're in L.A. Everyone's not talking about it. So I'm on the road in Texas and in Idaho and Florida and Chicago. They're not, like, if you bring it up to them, like, wait, what happened?

I thought especially was great. It's like, oh, in L.A., they're trying to cancel. But on the Internet, too. Internet's not real life. That's true. That's true. You walked down the street, one and ten people on Twitter. It's not real life.

Yeah, it's true It's not real life It's crazy though But so it's like He's not canceled You know he got 40 million for that special Yeah well I also know like He responded was like well

This is what being canceled He's like sign me up Yeah But you can't cancel a comic But that's what I'm saying Especially them trying to cancel him over Like what he was saying Doesn't entice violence or anything like that

Yeah His the whole You watched it right Oh yeah Okay Yeah one of the greatest special I've ever seen It was amazing Yeah amazing

But I think You know his message was Like, you know, he had a relationship with a trans person. Yes. That trans person committed suicide. He had, he, he did a lot of great things for that person. Yeah. He's not homophobic or transphobic.

It doesn't make sense. Even, he even, he's going to be a feminist. That's why that cancel culture doesn't have an argument. Right. Like, you're fine against a guy who actually helped your movement. But this is a bigger thing. And I talked about this when I was on the full send podcast, because they asked my opinion on this, you know, a couple weeks ago.

Are those boys scared of it? No. No, I mean, that's the thing is like you, you, you can't. If you base everything you do off of what you think. think the reaction is going to be then you're just never going to do anything never and it's like in in dave chapelle's situation in comedy in general is like are we just saying people can't talk about fucking things a joke people can't joke about things forever and then also the fact that what i said on the podcast i just want to reiterate again here is like if we're saying that you know you can't

talk about me you can't joke about me doesn't that just make that thing more taboo and the whole point is their goal right they want it to be more inclusive so it's a very weird combination of things where it's like okay we're saying you can't say this but we also want everyone to know about this but don't talk about this as shultz would say everybody can get these jokes everybody yeah everybody everybody it's amazing like once that trickulates into the the comedy life and stuff like that and the culture that's when cancel culture's gotten out of hand you can't you can't put a muzzle on comics no it's not going to happen it's and it's like i said i think it's been a thing forever where comedy is like that should be the very last place that you should be able to talk about

something that is taboo that is that is scaring people that is whatever and here's my thing with that that is if you don't like what dave chappelle's saying don't watch you special yeah it's not like but that's the channel nine's blasted out on main street you know you have to pay for a netflix subscription click on his name dave chappelle knowing what he's talking about and then watch it you idiots but like that i'd imagine most of me having watched it right they just probably saw what someone else said about yes which is so crazy nowadays though like with social media with the internet it is the most common thing for someone to just see what someone else says about a situation and they go if it's like their friend or their brother they based their opinions off

oh that's true they just regurgitate what that person's oh it is fucking insane i mean this is a there's a whole conversation we can have about this about a lot of other things that happened in the world but like i don't want to get into that that kind of shit um but yeah man like do you ever have any moments in the the content that you make or the the comedy stand-ups the specials that you do where you feel like oh i can't talk about this never yeah because I know I'm a good person I know it's come from a good place like the special I'm putting out soon like I go hard on my Mexican family man and like my wife and mother-in-law were in the crowd and if they're okay with it and they're Mexican as

fuck yeah so these other Latinas you're gonna be upset even though my wife and I have Mexican kids and my mother-in-law and you love them of course they're people on the planet right and they're okay with it but you're not get the fuck out of here well it just reminds me like I remember when I was like 16 and that you're in high school and you're in high school and joke with your boys and no matter what you said it was always good it's always okay it's like what's happening now in the world where it's like yo it's just we got to attack everyone for everything you know what it is it's like this culture like let's say we put out this podcast and someone goes man i loved it bradley and shop were great that might get seven lights and then if someone puts

i fucking hate it and then they do something that's that's can get a lot more attention so and the media is guilty of this too like negativity is what gets clicks that click bake like negativity is what we gravitate to it towards unfortunately. Bro, this is a whole fucking, this is a whole conversation. It's super toxic. And I know it specifically because like, I've been on YouTube for so long.

Like I'm, obviously I've been doing podcasts for four years on and off, but living on YouTube has taught me, and living on social media has taught me like directly that fear, crazy things, like outrageous things or really super funny things are the things that get the most views or clicks. Like when you make someone think like,

what's going on, I have to find out, right? You get more clicks. So a lot of times it comes through something that's negative or something that is like, could just be like, whoa, I got to know. So it's like, I've watched, dude, the fucking transition of like mainstream media onto social media. But the key there, start with mainstream. Like just look at, for example, the Joe Rogan stuff with his vaccines and then like the horse dewormer and stuff like that. Like, dude, he was literally going to sue CNN because they were spreading this false narrative that was taking this horse dewormer.

Yeah. And even people to this, my own fucking family, like, can't believe your buddy Joe would take horse to worm. I'm like, holy shit. You have crazy. You have my mom, bro. Yeah, it's like, what world are you living in? Yeah, my dad was like, I can't believe you.

I'm like, holy shit. Yes. How much CNN do you watch? And it's crazy because like, it's like literally that thing specifically has won a Nobel prize for like helping. Yeah, dude. Fucking what billions of people. Yeah.

People. And then it's like, yo, we're just going to attack it because like that's our prerogative. But they're not doing anymore. Well, because you call this shit. You fucked with the wrong bull. Now you start talking about power and like, this is what I'm saying. We're talking about Hollywood mainstream versus like where do you think this is going? Like I honestly believe I think we had this conversation a long time ago in person.

There's like at what point there's going to be this shift where like there's almost so many, not celebrities but social media influencers that have so much of their own like audience or fan base or people that's watching that people almost like stop actually really. Except for like a certain, well, because that's the thing, like a certain demographic eventually once they pass away. Yeah. The new people coming up are living like with this technology, right? I mean, look at the ratings. Like, I mean, you look at even one of my shows and especially Joe Rogan's show like compared to CNN, you know how many more millions and millions? It's not even close.

No, it's not close. So if CNN goes, Joe Rogan's taking D. Wormer, cool. Let's say I think they get like 200,000, 300,000 people a night. All right, shit numbers. Yeah. Rogan gets on there. You're talking to a bachelor of his gets 11 million views. Yeah.

Do you think CNN's mad at that that doctor got on and was like, and got annihilated? Yeah. Do you think they're like, why'd you do that? Yeah, they're like, why would you do that? But they even tried spinning that.

He even tried spinning that. I know. He was like, I had to go in the lines, Dan. And it's like, dude, and you got eight and alive,

bro. Bro, it's just crazy. Which is great to see. I love it. I just think it's getting to this point. It's going to get to a point where it's like, mainstream media is not going to be what it is unless someone for me.

trust of the public. You look at like what they've been doing with the vaccines and COVID and like Fauci and stuff like the government and the the mainstream media is already like who watches that and believes it also my mom my dad but it's so negative it's yeah no no no I want to tell you a story it's so negative like you want to slit your wrist if you watch fucking KTLA every morning bro I was I was in Miami I was in Miami it was me and Steve we're going to the gym okay so sorry sorry me and Jacob my videographer because I'm going to the gym I'm going to meet Steve at the gym so we're listening this this guys listen to NPR okay and it's talking about like wildfires

rainforests like all this like negative everything possible and I'm not saying these things aren't happening and people shouldn't be like thinking about these things but it went from like that to like I don't know some trial thing about so I don't know if this was written house or something like I don't know if it's written house it was a while ago and then it was like which I'm going to ask you about that in a second because he just it just got yeah anyway and then it started talking about COVID right So I'm going to the gym, and I'm sitting in the backseat Jacobs right next to me. The driver, and I kind of said to myself, I'm like, fuck, man, I don't know how you can listen to this negative shit. It's like, it was not, it's just like negative, negative, negative, like be scared, be afraid, be afraid, be afraid.

I'm like, fuck. And I put my headphones and I was like, I can't listen to this shit. Anyways, I look into the thing and I notice he starts talking to Jacob. So I take my earphones back out and he goes, I get the tail end of like, have you guys been tested? And we're like, yeah, we test a reason. He's like, yeah, well, he's like, he goes. I have the Delta variant Okay

And he's like And he was like You know he's like you know it can kill you There you go I was like yo pull over this car Right now he's like we're almost there I was like pull over this car Yeah

I got a little upset I'm not gonna lie I said pull over the fucking car Yeah And I got out and I was like Yo like what's What is the use in that Why would you be that kind of

It's like what's just creating This weird fucking dynamic in the world I don't have any animosity towards him Because remember he grew up with that He didn't grow up like we did You know what I'm saying? Like, he grew up with that, like, you know, fucking Walter Cronkite or where the fuck he's growing up, Barbara Walters and like what they say is word. So for him, that's all he knows.

Same with my dad. Like, my dad didn't leave his house for like 16 months. Yeah. And like, my brother lives pretty close to me. He's like, dad would answer the door in a full, like, fucking, you know, nuclear war outfit and like gloves and shit and wouldn't talk to me. And like, yeah. Like, I don't hold it against him because that's all they know. But do you think, though, you know, obviously that there's a generation that like they grew up and like plugged into that, right?

and that's all they know, but there's still a new generation that, like, there's, it's still, like, not, it's not getting to them. I'm not saying, like, what everything is said is wrong or incorrect, but there's still a new generation that is adopting that mentality of, like, for sure, like, but a lot of people, like, if you think about it, like, a lot of people aren't risk takers. I'm not seeing a risk taker if you're not wearing a mask, you're not getting vaccinated, but you're probably a little more of it's just in your, it's in your DNA, like you're a bit of more of a risk taker. Like, you're probably entrepreneur. You're probably more likely to, you know, bet on yourself and, you know, you know, do some crazy shit and you know climb fucking mount ever stuff like that you know what i'm saying like yeah there's different types of people where do you think it's just going though like i'm a little bit we talk about a little bit out the gym sometimes here and there i'm like i'm afraid with california yeah california in general man i'm like i'm like i never once i grew up my whole

life i grew up in san francisco um i live in sacramento state i came down to orange county lived all in orange county all through orange county all through l a lived in woodland hills now and i'm like I never ever until COVID the end of COVID like I say like eight months in nine months in I was like fuck I really don't want to live here anymore but it'd be this is my thing with that and I don't at the gym I wanted to sell my house right away when we left there talking that cop but it'd be weird to leave now like you should have left yeah fuck like it's open now God I know he's not terrible here it's not gonna get worse like this is a worse like they can't do anything else worse to us as far as like like whenever be locked down again they realize they don't want to admit it they realize that shit did not work They ruin small businesses. So we're not getting locked down again. You might have to put a mask on, but I'm a homebody. Yeah, me too. My gym is zoo culture.

You don't make me wear a mask. Never. I own my own studio. They don't have to have masks in there. So it's like, unless like I walk into a restaurant and I can take the mask off when I sit down, which is so hilarious. It's like, hold on. While I'm talking to you trying to get a table, I have to have mask on, but go to the bathroom, I don't have to mask on it. If I just sit there, that's safe.

Bro. Because COVID won't go that way. So here's the deal, right? like me and you right we have those circumstances because that's our like but everyone else is like they have to they feel forced into it like I'll give you an example a lot a lot like what you were just saying I went into a caava which is like a Mediterranean you eat I love this place it's in fucking Topanga you get like a bowl you pick what you want right sounds nice I go into kava and there's Tziki sauce and shit Tziki all that good shit hummus all that fire shit like spicy lamb meatballs and

shit's incredible anyways I'm in kava and there's no one in there it's about to close there's two people sitting there eating without the mask on eating no one else in there except me I go up I said he goes as soon as he me walked towards the back he's like hey you got to put a mask and I was like and you walked in the store without a mask lost in a store without a mask and I was like hey um he says hey got to put a mask and I said I don't have one can you can you can you you have one I can you and I was like no and I was like okay can I just order and get out of here real quick or can I tell you what I want and I'll wait outside no and and the thing that got me was I said okay he said

I said, so if I was sitting right here and I was drinking water, like, can I just get order water real quick and then, like, sit here? I know it's like a little, it sounds a little like fucked, a little facetious, whatever you want to call it, but I was like, if I sat right here, just like those people are sitting literally right there, zero mask on, right over there, no problem, right? If I sat right here on this table and I just said, hey, can you just, I just want the chicken and the rice, that's it. You don't even got to put any sides, anything else.

And so now I'm at, now I'm having a conversation with like five. I'll throw you my American Express from here. Yeah, no, or like, I'll just come by and hit the, the Apple Pay thing that I use because I never carry my wallet anyways. So boom, I don't even got to touch the thing and I'm dipping and the thing that fucked me up was, and this is when we talk about me and you have a different circumstance, right? Because you could show up to my gym, you could do all your things, but everyone else is still have to be like, they have to go into the process. And I asked this guy, it really was just startling to me because it was just, it couldn't make it make sense. And I said, does this make sense to you?

And his response was, it doesn't matter. And I said, okay, I put my phone down just so he didn't think I was recording or anything. I was like, all right, dude, my phone's like right here. I'm not recording you. I understand you're doing this. This is your job. As a human, though, I've just got a genuine question for you before I leave. Does this make sense to you?

Again, he goes, it doesn't matter what I think. That's what fucked me up, bro. But, yeah. That's fucked me up. And I get it. It's frustrating. My thing with that, with that guy, remember. I understand he leaves that job.

I totally get it. So his thing is my entire life savings is into this fucking Mediterranean restaurant that has fire lambs. Well, no, he was just, he was just an employee. So he's just following his job. He doesn't want to get fired. I understand that. But I'm talking about in the overall perspective, it's like, are we, is like, are people

just being taught that like, yo, it doesn't matter what I think. I'm just following this rule. And that's what's disappointing, especially in California. Bro, but it's crazy. It doesn't matter. But it, it, but the crazy thing is it does. The crazy thing is it does. It's still up to a business owner.

So the people who are enforcing, you have to have a vaccine or you have to do this, you have to show up with this. They're still enforcing that willingly. Yeah, but those are the, unfortunately, that's our government here in Los Angeles, especially L.A. County. No, no. Are you outside L.A. County? It's not like this. But for those business owners, that's the mandates, those are the rules. So unfortunately for them, especially that kid who works, he was like, dude, I'm fucking trying to save it by a Ford Fiesta, man.

No, I get it. I totally understand his, he don't want to fucking lose a job. I'm with you. I'm with you. I've been, like, you know, I'm on the road all the time. I was in Texas. And I think they've, in Florida, they've made it like illegal to have mandates, shit like that. It's fantastic. Yeah. And I went in this coffee shop, like a, you know, hipster coffee shop. And this girl goes, oh, my God, it's me and my meathead friends, like Mark Harley and Chappelle. Like, we're all thick as fuck.

Yeah. So, oh, my God. Put a fucking mask on. I go, excuse me? She was put a mask. And I haven't touched a mask since I was in Texas. I go, no, I just want, we're in Texas. She goes, I'm going to fuck where you're at.

Put a mask on. And she was so hostile. I'm like, but you're in. Where was I at? I fucking Austin. I'm like, you're what? San Antonio. I go, but this is.

You don't have to do this. She's like, I don't care. These are my rules. She must have been the owner. She put a mask on. I just went, I'll go to another place. All good. Do your thing.

Like, that's your right. If you want. Of course. But you and I give my money. Yeah, no, I do that. Like, there'll be places now that it'll be like, you have to show this or show that. I'll be like, all right, whether or not I decide and whether or not you think it's a good idea to get vaccinated or not, do you. But this whole like the foreseen of, you know, you can't police and you can't be here.

Like you said, I'll walk straight. I'll be like, all. Cool. I'm just not going to put my business here. Yeah. The thing is like we can be mad about and try to fight and stuff like that. Like it's not, you know what I'm saying? Like it's not going away. I think it well. I think this all goes away. You think you think they won't say you guys show up with a vaccine passport and show me. I think because I was going to go to a restaurant the other day on Ventura Boulevard and they're like they literally was like, okay, I know they're going to ask because I called and they're like, yeah, we have to verify that. And I pulled up and I was waiting outside. I just wanted to see like some people walking up. And they literally had someone show their thing and then show their thing and then show their. ID and I was like holy fuck that's crazy and again it's like kind of that Hollywood thing like we're in in L.A but you travel like I do like everywhere else is different so that'd be a reason to move but my thing is like I'm not willing to give up California that easy because then news some wins like bitchy that ain't I'm a fighter dog you ain't yeah I love it I love it because I do love California man I love it our taxes suck or government sucks outside that though it's the

best place on fucking earth and I've been everywhere dude everywhere There's nowhere like this. There's no one else you'd live. I feel like if I move, Newsom's like, yeah, bitch. Gotcha, motherfucker. Get out of here. Go to Austin. Get out of it, bitch.

Follow Joe. Yes, I refuse to do that. Fuck, man. But so, like, yeah, like, what would make you move? What do you think? If they forced my kid to get vaccine, like they were going to kick him out of school because he's in such a good school. Yeah.

Or if they locked it, if, like, let's say in December, because it's going to be flu season, which they'll blame COVID for and be like, oh, it's COVID. We already know that's coming. Yeah, for sure. And they're always like, yeah. Like they're like that making boosters required now or whatever. No, yeah. They start hyping it up.

They're like, you know, December is coming. Dude. So if they did like lock down again, I'd like, all right. Newsom you want, dude.

I'm fucking out of here. That'd be the, it'd have to be something extreme. There's no way they can do it again. They're not going to. I'm saying that's what like in my head. It'd have to be that extreme. Fucking crazy.

But I refuse to leave. I fucking love it here. I'm not going to let them with. No, we can't, man. It's fucking crazy. Give us your fucking tax money. It's fucking crazy.

So, You know, so, so you have, you have a full-blown family. You have kids. Yep. Five and two-year-old. Yep. Um, do you ever, do you ever have like, I don't know, like, do you ever have a hard time? Because I, I, this is a genuine question for me to you, because I'm so fucking busy.

And I do like, how old are you? 32. Okay. And I do want to have kids. Uh, I'm not saying I know exactly like this is the right time. How do you know when it's the right time? Because I'm so fucking busy. He's never a right time.

Okay. Trust me. When, when it does happen, you'll find time. This was a selfish question. I got to say in the podcast. everyone listening. I asked them it was personally just for me to get. I normally ask questions because I think they want to know them. Yeah, like questions. But I'm sure some people do too because like I don't think there's ever a right time like if you're going to wait for the right time

you never have kids. Yeah. The difference with me is since I was a little kid I've wanted kids. I want to be a dad. I did too. So it's like for me like you know, I'm a good podcast. I'm a good comic, good businessman. I'm a great dad. I'm a beast of a dad. I know that. That's what I want to do. I know for a fact. Beast of a dead. I want to do the most. Yeah. It's the best. Yeah. it's the best nothing better and i've done some cool shit man i fought in fucking the ufc in fucking toronto in front of six thousand people i fought in Vegas at mgm you know i've played in big 12 championship football games i've played in uh fucking big bowl games on ESPN you know i've done wilbur theater in boston i've shot two specials nothing nothing compares

of being a dad on a daily basis not even close dude yeah so it's the best job i've ever had I remember I had a conversation with a business partner of mine where I was like how much I love my dogs and he's like if you think like the love you have for your dog like wait till you have a son wait wait wait for the anxiety you have about a kid about about their like just life just like life not the truth he's going to be fine he's a monster but as far as just like the world's scary yeah that's also so that's a thing like when we walk at a mall like when we go to a public place like I'm like fucking like I'm security for fucking you know Nikki Minaja yeah yeah who the fuck's are going to Oh, dude, everything. Which is crazy, though. Open shooters. Like, we go to the movie series. Like, dad, why you sit in the back one? Because the ex is there, motherfucker.

Yeah. Like, yeah. I swear to God. That's real. Oh, dude, like my height, like, dude, I could fucking be security for Biden at this point. Like, the, the anxiety I have around my kids, dog. Which is that, but that's another thing I was, like, asking you is like, I do. I worry about that just because the world is, it doesn't, it just gets you a

It makes you a better person, though. Yeah. You'll be more disciplined. Like, now because. Time is so valuable, like, I have to cut out. So when I get home after this, like, my, thank God, my week's done. I had a day off in 18 days. Yeah.

But so tomorrow I'll shut off my phone and it's like, even during the week, so like yesterday, I had a full day, shot this big commercial, got done at 5 p.m. What commercial you shot? For my special. Okay, okay. Yeah, I'll tell you about it. I thought it was like some other random shit. No, you're going to love this.

It's so dope. Yeah. But, so when I get home, it's like, man, from, when I get home, whether it's at four to when he goes to bed at like eight that man it's all it's all them we're watching fucking team titans and wrestling nonstop and there's nothing better dude and like you think what you're doing's important and when you get home like your kid don't give a fuck man yeah he's like what's got to be kind of nice though like whenever i had like beef with anyone like that and like i'll be in my head like i bet everyone's thinking this i get home my son's like what who gives a fuck dude like you get

Get the Legos, bro. Like, what's up with angry birds? I'm like, yeah, you right, man. Yeah, yeah, fuck all this here. Yeah, it's great, Doug. Damn, dude, I do. I really want fucking kids, man. I want two sons.

So bad. That's what I have, two kiddos. That's why I was asking these questions. It's crazy, man. I want it so bad, man. And it's so dope. It's so dope, dude. Yeah.

There's nothing better. Like, you woke me up this morning at 5 a.m. And I know it's cliche to say this. Like, I go to bed with butterflies. Yeah. Because you get any good to wake up to see him. That's beautiful, man. that's beautiful yeah what do you want your kids to do do do you have any idea what you want

them to do not fight fair wouldn't let them well real quick too tough of a go what i have a question about fighting i know this is super left field based on a kid conversation but what was the hardest fight you ever had in the in the u.c they were all fucking hard anyone stand out where you're like fuck man this is like i would say the most heartbreaking one was the no garra fight because that was like like my I think my life trajectory would have changed if I would have won that fight yeah and not not but not in a good way yeah um I think if I were won that fight I probably went on to fight like Brock Lesnar fight for the title and I would been so consumed in fighting that I'd been my life and um that was tough because dude

it was tough because I flew I I just beat Merco Crow Cup knocked them out it was like won the fight of the year you know knock out of the year like crazy shit and we're all busted up and then they give me no gear in brazil that's like fighting michael jordan chicago yeah so nobody's rooting for me i'm on the poster it's me force griffin big nog anderson sylva like it's like the first time they're back in brazil yeah promotion was fucking crazy yeah i was favored to knock them out i'm doing i'm on this insane press tour biggest you know how many millions and millions and millions people watched that and i went in there super cocky because i should have just

just destroyed this dude and no garra no garret and he caught me with the right hand and then you know i was in brazil i was like so embarrassed my family flew up you know 14 hours on a plane to get to brazil and i'm there for seven days after because we thought i was going to destroy this dude and enjoy brazil and i just remember i'm like walking around brazil like black guy like half my money i'm broke and i was like but this is famous guy in the ufee i guess i'm broke and i'm walking around i'm so embarrassed and then like the the Brazilian fans just like took all that away they like gave me hugs and kisses and give me free food and like they're like you're such a warrior and like it just made me realize like

oh dude this is dope but it's also like it's a really big learning experience in your life like the crazy thing I this is my story it's I'm going to tell you guys is a hundred times not as fucking alpha not as cool because it was it was in the competition industry which is like we stand on stage and we show off our abs and shit still but I don't know like discipline to get there man For sure, but, like, fighting is obviously 10 times more alpha. But the crazy thing about what you said, just to give you guys perspective, I was doing the competition stuff, and I wasn't like the popular guy. And then I got second place at a show where I was going to get, I would have got my

pro card if I got first. And then every show after that, they gave two pro cards for the first and second. And it was a big turning point where I was like, you'll, fuck this industry. And the way it was set up and the way I, you know, the way I felt about how it was like political. And if you, you know, you're on this person's team, you got a better look. And then I found out later on that that guy won because of, you know, you. He was on this person's team. Anyways, the point is this.

I was so beat down after that show. I remember this is back when people used Facebook. People would message me on Facebook and be like, yo, you got Rob, you got Rob, you got Rob. I'm talking about you got Rob, you got crazy shit. And I remember being like, yo, fuck this. And it was such like a negative point. But at the same time, like you were kind of saying, it changed the course of my life for the fucking better. Yes.

Thank God he beat me. So it's important for people listening. Like you don't always get the things you think you really, really want. But, you know, the thing. the saying is you get what you need. Oh, I thought you're going to get religious, be like, God has a plan for you. I was going to do that to you.

I don't know if he does. No, no, we can talk about that all day too. Yeah, we can. I'm just saying like, I feel like we could talk nonstop to be honest, but it was, I realized I just, I got what I needed. It just didn't know it at the time that that's what I needed.

And it took so much time to realize that. Like you talk about this. But I also think you have the, you know, the IQ and the business savvy to make anything work. Whether that worked out or not, you'd been okay. you know what I'm saying yeah like you would have made that work it didn't work out you bounce off that and go this direction like you're a guy who's going to make it work no

matter what yeah I'm saying I have to it's in your DNA so okay I know I think I know it's a gorilla on your hat yeah I know it's in yours too yes do you think you can learn that uh that's a good question especially with kids um I don't know so for instance with my son I know, I never one talked about how cool their kid is, but listen to this shit. So he's been in training wheels for a while. You know, he's, I ride, I have a bike club. I ride bikes every day. So he sees me go out every morning and ride my bike.

And so he wants to be like that. So I got him a bike and has training wheels on it. And then last week he's all, dad, I want training wheels. You don't ride with training wheels. I'm like, I know, Tiger, but I've been riding for a long time, but I start with training wheels. He's like, I don't want training wheels. How old is he?

Five. And I go, I'll take him off, dude, but your mom's going to kill me if I don't buy you like the bullshit. like, you know, elbow pads and the fucking, the neck brace and whatever the fuck it is. He's like, fucking ride this shit. So I'm on Amazon, like, looking for that.

I'm like, this shit's going to take forever to get here. So I go, fuck it, dude. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I fucking love it. Yeah, so his mom's in the house. I'm like, just me and I go down there. Don't say shit. I'm like, just be cool, man.

He's like the loudest kid ever. So he's quiet. So we go down there. And I'm like, all right, dude. And it's, it's five o'clock, mind you. So it's kind of starting to get dark. and I'm like I'm gonna hang on and just get comfortable with it and in my head I'm like this is not the way to learn to ride a bike

so I'm like teach I'm like behold him and he's going and I feel like he kind of has it and I let him go and he falls yeah yeah and he doesn't get hurt he pops up he's like again so we're doing it boom false he's like again hour later we're doing the same thing out but baba it's getting late it's fucking dark out and he's like I'm not going inside Tyler and ride the bike awesome no I think it's in your DNA like that like I call it that Mamba mentality dude he was out there for three hours and learned to ride that fucking bike yeah then the

next morning so my incentive and it's kind of the way I was as a kid I needed a goal so I told him I said if you learn to ride the bike like you can go around like eight times without crashing I'll buy you any bike you want he was really a go any bike you want this little bastard he like that night he was scratched up scratch not crying scratched up again again again and we're out there for three hours that little bastard did it next morning we went 5 a.m. He wakes me up and we have a monitor. I know the bike I want. He goes, Daddy, I'm awake and I walk in his room.

My underwear, I jump in bed with him and then we sit there and talk and I jump in bed and goes, pull up your phone so we're in order my bike. I love it, man. You know what's crazy? When I hear stories about kids, like any, I swear to God, anytime I ask anyone like who have kids, they're always like five or six years old, which is so crazy because in my life, my father took his life when I was six. Can't imagine.

And it's weird. Every time I ask people how old their kids are. kids are i swear to god they're either five or six every single time yeah that's so crazy to me but i'm not making it about that i think the the thing that's interesting to me is like you you built this it's almost like this kind of shit is in your DNA a bit it's in your it's in your genetics like the the the need to because your son has it like that whether or not like you teach him like hey these are the things you need to do if you want to get that or like no i didn't trust me i was that like fucking it's not like shindler's list where i'm like we're staying out here for the next

three hours yeah he wanted that dude i didn't want that i wanted to go inside the house i was fucking tired yeah because that's what's so interesting to me like i so that's crazy can you can you teach this kind of stuff that's a good question i don't know yeah and then you know he's in jitzo so like some of the other kids like he'll be like dad why do i have to go when this kid's not there i'm like because you're not that kid dude you're good at this and you started this you're gonna fucking finish it like that kid can do whatever he wants yeah but you committed to this i'm paying for it you're fucking going dude so then he doesn't even question anymore yeah so he goes and he's really good at it but you'll see even at that age like you'll see some kids

where it's like probably shouldn't be in this huh I only get that yeah you know he shouldn't be here right the participation trophies yeah it's like you know you know what come on yeah like stop yeah and then even my kid like he knows so like the partner him up and do takedowns I'm like you know he's just a fucking beast with takedowns he takes everybody down so I have to put him with the older kids so why they're parent with someone at his age like mm-mm mm-mm yeah the coach is like what the fuck and I'll be like oh man this is not good yeah that's so fucking funny to me yeah i love it man do you think there's do you think there's something like for the person listening who's like who who wants to i mean obviously not in relationship

to like a kid and being good at jiu jitsu or anything like that but um trying to learn how to be more successful in their life is there any advice you give them like what like i guess just don't stop you know what i'm saying like i think fully for me like i'm never going to stop i don't pay attention to the chatter online i don't pay attention to the chatter around the water cooler I don't give a fuck because if I would have listened think if you're listening this right now and you want to do something I already know where it's going and you want to do something and you go online right now and you go hey everybody try this out go hey everybody I want to start stand up I want to start fighting I want to start a podcast I want to start bodybuilding go on and go

should I do it watch how many people go no no no no fuck no you ain't a majority of me no oh yeah but those people ain't shit because they've never taken the risk and the reason are saying no is because they feel some type of way because they never took those risks so for me i've never listened to that ever in my life even when i start stand up i had other comments go do you take 10 years before you even get an act and it took you 10 years dude you know what i'm saying like yeah i'll figure it out like i'll get the reps and i'll figure it out so with anything i don't really look for advice i don't call joe for advice i don't call brian or i just i don't call anybody man i know what i want to do and whatever it takes i'm willing to do yeah but no matter how much time

it takes and I don't like I don't I get when I say this I generally mean this I don't give a fuck about the chatter online or about people in restaurants I don't care man I know what I want I'm not looking for you to know what I want that's what it takes I mean that's truly what you're going to start a dream like why would you ask that person about your dream no bro I get hit up this all the time social media just one example people saying I want to do what you're doing how do it how did you do it that's the biggest thing and another thing I always here is like there's so many people doing it now it's so saturated it's like yeah there is but like there is only one of you and that's the thing that people people like to look outward and they

go like oh well that person has success because they did these five things so I'm just going to follow these five things this is another derivative of like it just like fuck what everyone else is doing and also fuck whatever else is saying about what you want to do because you're not going to get to where you want to go by listening to what everyone else is doing with those opinions and like haters and stuff the reason they're so against whatever it is a successful comic or podcast or actor the rapper it's in here it's in here yeah and I really realized that a long time ago. So I stopped giving any attention to it.

I'm like, God, there's a lot of mental health issues out there. You got to think about it. There's a lot of sour bitches. You know what I'm saying? For someone to get on the internet and say like, fuck you, you ain't shit. You can't do this. It's like, hold on a second. Wait one second.

Where the fuck is that coming from? Like, I don't know anyone who's super successful that goes, fuck you, you can't do that shit. Never. Anyone would ask me anything. I'd be like, yo, try it. Like, you could pull it off. And also, and it's just the way it works.

Like, you'll realize you'll never see anybody doing well throwing hate. ever ever ever yeah i've never had a there are some people i've never had a comic more successful than me hate on me ever but there are some people who who who thrive i know at least on social media today there are people who do thrive off of talking shit about other people to to enforce their own brand you know to build themselves out there's going to be a ceiling there though they're never going to get to the final destination and and there's you're going to see with ceiling with that that negativity that you're spewing out in the world there's me a a day where those followers you have are going to grow up

have kids, get real job. I'm like, what the fuck am I listen to this dude for? Life is negative already. So there's a ceiling with that. That's fine. They might get some attention, but my ceiling because I'm a positive, loving person is so much higher than yours, dude.

So much higher. Not even close. Well, that's the thing, too, just the people listening, like if there's something you really want to do in your life, if you did everything in your life based off what someone else said, you're not going to be happy.

You're going to find yourself in positions where it's like, fuck, I don't want to be here. But if you start to like say, okay, stop listen to all the nonsense, all the bullshit. Like, you're going to end up on a path where you're like, well, this is actually making me happy.

Doing things that are actually making you happy, not just based on what someone else is saying they think you should do. But also surround yourself by others that have the same, like the same motives, the same motivation. So like my team, now that I'm damn they're almost fully independent, you know, I had to hire like six or seven employees. And I had this talk with them the other day. Everybody on this staff, including myself,

everybody functions at a high level. We have fun, but notice. Everybody's at a fucking high level. If you tailor off the path and you're not doing your job, you're out of here, man. Your quote on the wall, which I love at zoo culture, run with us or run from us. So it's like if you can't keep up with me work ethic-wise, you do not have a place there, man. Trust me, there's fucking lines out there and I will find them. So if you're a zebra in line clothing, you do not have a place with me.

And that's with everything. Everyone I surround myself is smarter than me, more successful than me. you know they're better comedians than me better pocket i don't surround myself with anyone who's less than me nobody yeah everyone's monsters you i think it has to be that way i mean like i say this in your own life like for people listening whether you're like a successful podcast or if you want to be a podcast or whatever the fuck you're trying to do if there's people in your circle right now that like every time you talk to them they're like i don't know man that sounds like a bad idea that's get rid of them yeah it's a cancer you have a cancer cell on your body straight up you got to get rid

of it like even if it's it sucks like because here's the problem with this there's the problem with this is when this person goes, oh, but it's my mom, right? Or it's my brother. Now, you can't get rid of that person. You're like, okay, I can kind of turn this volume down a little bit. You can separate from one of a bit. And I have to understand that, okay, that's what this person believes. Because like I, everyone gets this when they're kids, when they're growing up in their adolescence. Like, you know, obviously I don't think you'd be this kind of father, but a father figure or a mother figure might be like, you should do this. And you're like, no, I just, that's not really me. And you do something else left field. And they're like, that's like a bad idea. Like,

I remember not my mom. My mom was never like. like bad on what I wanted to do, but she was like, yeah, good luck, you know, we'll see. And like, I just think it's really important for people listening. Like, it's not, my mom is not a bad person. She's making her opinions off what she knows and what she knows to be possible. But the world is so different nowadays. The landscape is so different nowadays that it's like I have to move in a whole different way and not rely on what someone else said that I should or shouldn't do.

And I just think it's really important for people to understand. Like, if there's people in your circle, like I said, if it's a mom, if it's a brother, it's a cousin, like you've got to turn the volume down a little bit and know where, okay, if that's truly not in line with like you in your heart like don't listen to it and also if you can't get rid of those people in your life you don't want it bad enough oh yeah oh yeah because now you're going like you now you're if you're not getting rid of them you're affirming what they're saying by allowing them to stay in your life and then you're giving yourself an excuse to not move forward because like you can go oh like well he said that so maybe not you're just so now you're holding yourself

back correct but i just think it's interesting man and i and whenever i talk to like successful people, you know, such as yourself or other people that I know or people that I really look up to. It's like, they always say the same fucking things, man. And I just think, I just want to try to bring that. It sounds harsh, but the game's too tough, the game's too tough to waste time on that. Yeah. So it might sound harsh, but if you're trying to get where you're going, it's going to take some harsh decisions. Do you ever see yourself? I always ask this question because I, do you ever see yourself not working? No. Yeah, I'd rather die. I was talking to a shark. I'm like a shark. If I stopped moving, I'm going to die. I was talking to a friend of

mind who's a billionaire like a like a multi-billioner oh i'd probably stop them no but he's no dude that's that's the fucked up thing he can't he can't well look at the rock he's i'm on the phone with him and i was like would you ever stop working he's like no i'd i'd i'll when i stop working i'm dead that's why he's successful this guy is like yeah yeah insane yeah but also it's like i think too one of the reasons why it's kind of gone well for me too is like i don't do anything that I don't want to do. Everything I do, I don't go, oh, I'm going to do this and make tons of money. I do it because I love doing it. If money comes, fucking great. But if not, all good. I love doing this, man. I make great people and we've had a great time doing it.

But I've never done anything around like, well, I'm going to make a ton of money doing this. Ever, ever. So for me, it's like the money is great. That's great. And I love to be paid for what I do and, you know, putting together all my shit. That's great. But also, I'd be doing it for free. So it's like I have nothing to retire from. This is what I do for fun. This is a big important thing in success and people who are listening always people always ask me this question in person they say yeah I don't know what I don't know what I want to do or I want to do these things but I don't know how to make money and I remember when I first started making money on the internet through to coaching people I would get hit up all the time by people who knew I was successful

at it I maybe just because the amount of followers I had or the fact that I was the first person promoting like this online coaching thing in the fitness industry and they would hit me up and they'd be like you know what do I do like I bet you make so much money like I bet you make so much money like how do I do what you're doing other fitness people and I remember being like dude if if the reason why you want to do this is to make money you're out and not actually help people you're not going to make it you're done yeah you're not for the wrong reason and that's the thing that's so significant I think in life now is like people get so caught up especially with social media and what other people have and how other people make money and how they do it and they just try and mimic it

but like their heart's not truly in the thing that they're doing like if you asked me like like this podcast shit if I made no money doing this and I just did all my other stuff and made my money, I would still do this because I love this so much. Yeah, I would do everything I do now for free. Everything. Everything. Everything. But it's crazy because you can't tell someone that who's just starting out because they're like, but I need to make money. Yeah, it's tough. So it's like a balance. What I'm saying is this to the people listening. I always told people focus on the things that you truly enjoy and when you're doing them, you're like, yo, this feels good. Yep. And then over time of doing that and like really, because like you can't lie to yourself when you do something,

and you're like, whoa, I like me doing podcasts right now, I love the way I feel, my heart feels good, my body feels good. But also people will gravitate towards that because it's natural. And they realize it's not a money play. Right. So along that path, right, where that's happening, you don't have to make it about I got to make money. Like something will come naturally almost where it's like,

oh, okay, I can monetize it like this. Yep. But if your initial intent is like, I need to monetize this and I want to do what that person is doing. You can smell that. Yeah, you're just sitting a wall straight away. You're not going to make it. But it's crazy.

I just think it's crazy that dynamic of. success and and obviously needing money but not making it about money fine balance it's crazy man yeah it's and all the successful people that i talk to and have conversation with they're like they all see the same shit yeah i think if you're like if it's black and white like you're a finance or stock guy that makes sense i like hey i got into this for money of course i don't enjoy i'm just trying to get fucking rich that's different but for what we do like being creative and creative type and put out content you have to love it man you have to too much of a grind like we're nine to fives dude i'm 100% all the time all the time all the time

Yeah, 24-7. But you know that. She knows that. How long have you worked for him? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, you have to be. Yeah, everyone is like, this guy's crazy.

But, like, I couldn't be any other way. I don't know how to be any other way. I don't want it to be any other way. It's in your DNA, yeah. I fucking love it. Are we going to dial it down? No, dude. I can only learn to dial that bitch up.

Yeah. No, it's just like, it's just so fucking fun. And, like, sometimes you hit fucking walls, but, like, eventually when you get it, you're like, it's just so fucking enjoyable. I can't even describe the. feeling yeah the thing for me like with this whiskey what fired me up about is like it's a language i don't speak and these guys are they have their black belt and my white belt come into it yeah like what's up oh man let's fucking i'm gonna learn this shit yeah i'm gonna figure it no i love it

i love it i've gone to a situation like in my business like movement and transitioning to things very very similar and like you said not not having the black belt yeah but like i'm in my mind i'm like oh i'm gonna figure this out i have the phone i'm like no fucking doubt and i'm gonna be better than i ever was and that's why i told me like you can not pick it up and distribute it was you'll see what happens i'll find someone yeah motherfucker i'll find your competitor that's that mentality man yeah it's not like a mean thing i'm just like yeah i bet against me see what happens man yeah how do we i just want to teach more people about that kind of shit man yeah i don't know yeah if you could harness that and sell it you'd be fucking jett may it like a make it like

yeah dude put that shit in a pill holy shit put that a pill and put it on amazon what make it what's so fucking funny back that that's to be crazy if you could if you could if you could put that like that's like limitless it's like that fucking movie it's that limit list yeah it's like insane that movie was dope by the way yeah but anyways he's also just using cratum but whatever was it i think so like i do you use cratum i haven't used cratim but i know jacob you did crate him right yeah i do it every day no every show every day no stop right now i'm on it right now oh i'm on some mushrooms right now i'm on it nonstop isn't that what they what they take to get off of like heroin in shape they can yeah yeah it's if you used to be

Yeah, people, well, I use it because it fires up my brain. Like, like, yeah, I'm more sharp when I'm on it. I don't do anything without it. Yeah, really? Uh-uh. Any like stand-up. And you have the, the nicotine thing, right? The nicotine, yeah.

Nicotine's weird because obviously an addictive drug, but I, uh, start that because obviously playing football for a long time, fighting. Like, they found out, like, nicotine can help with the brain. Oh, yeah. Delaying, like, CT and stuff like that. Yes. So I was like, say less. Yeah.

So then I started using the patches. And then, again, I didn't start using. using patches and like, oh, I'm going to get sponsored by them and work with this company. I started using it, fucked with it, and then naturally they saw me using it. And now they're a business partner. Like it's, that's incredible. Yeah. And that's what we're just talking about. Yeah.

It's something you genuinely like, whoa, I actually need this, I used this. I just started talking about them. I always see you with it. So it makes sense. Yeah, stay on it. It's like an easy. So that's an easy path. It's just, that's organic.

Yeah. Yeah. Because you actually do it. It's actually a part of your life. Yep. But yeah, that's, I think that's it, man. I just, I'm, I'm really. grateful that you came on the podcast. Oh, I love you. You've came on fighting a kid twice.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love it, man. But yeah, and I'm, and I'm grateful to call you a friend. Yeah. You're my boy. And, you know, you're just a great dude, man. I want the internet to know that outside of the internet or whatever the fuck people say or, I mean, people don't really talk shit about you anyways. But I've known you for time now in person and you're just always been a very consistent person. And I appreciate you. Yeah, I got your back. And that's it, man. Yeah. Now, are you, are you moving to Austin? Like, is this going to be a weird thing? I lose another friend, No, no, no, no. Now you know, we got a lot more to do here.

I'm going to go back and forth. Once I open the gym, I'll probably be there for about six months so that I can bounce back and forth. So I can avoid little old taxing Cali. He's like, okay, I thought we're still going to get him. And you're that fucking mask guy, huh? But also I need to be there, regardless of the taxes, regardless, I do need to be there. I need to be there while the gym opens to kind of set the tone.

And then I'll be back and forth. Steve, I was just telling you before the podcast, he wants me to move into like a fucking random house in the valley here with them just film crazy-ass content which is like that'd be dope it'd be crazy it'd be fun so i was gonna talk about when you're talking about the jo rogan thing and switch you know over because remember he did the crazy rent yeah crazy um but at the end of the day like it's needed it's necessary to grow to grow yeah i agree like we said man those moments that where you're like you're a hit and you're like fuck like there's a ton going on she's joking about it yeah there is so much going on in my life right now yeah but like i know

that on the other side of that is is that's where i want to be yeah it'll be and that's what's going to go. You've been talking about doing for a while anyway, so it's better they force your hand. Yeah, they had to. Yeah, you got this, though. Yeah. I'll be there. Yeah, you already know. I'll be there. So that's it. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I appreciate you so much, man. You're a genuine fucking great dude. You got it, brother. And anything you need for me, you already know I got you. You know this man. Love you, brother. Make sure you guys subscribe to the fucking podcast. I think, I don't even know how it works. You create the little plus button. Drop a nice little review. If you're on YouTube, drop a comment, share, like, all that good

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