RAWTALK - Braeden, Nick & RawDogMoon Reveal The Truth About Streamer University

Episode Date: July 23, 2026

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Wow. With Mr. Martin. Yeah. Wait, was you in this room three years ago? Yeah, I was in here three years ago. Damn. That it's going to hit hard. I know.

You say you're going to be in a podcast. Yeah. And then after we'll play League of Legends. I'm down, bro. Do you still play? Yeah. That's the only game I play. And I don't play it on stream because no one will watch it.

What do you play? I play jungle. What's your main? VGA or King. Oh, okay. Yeah. Who would win in League of Legend 1 v1? It's not like, you can't 1 v1.

You can't 1v1. It's not one of those games. Damn. Yeah, it's super team. It's like crazy team base. You get tilted so bad. Yeah, and you play ADC. So if you play ADC.

so if you get support. Oh. That's cracked. Yeah, I hate it. It makes me so mad. You guys ready? I feel like it's so funny. You guys are all just like make sure your hair was good.

I'm not. Yeah, I can't relate. I can't relate to that. So, okay, you guys all went to streamer you. I feel a little bad because I kind of wanted to do a pod because I've known you for so long now. Like you're just with you. Yeah.

But I think this is a really cool setting to do this after you guys just went to this whole streamer you thing. And Nick, you've been in the game for a minute. I've known you obviously for a minute. You guys, how new are you too to social media? I've been, um, now I started doing like TikToks and shit. I was doing like, like, comedy stuff, like trying to do like little skits in, uh, in high school, like sophomore year, like right before COVID. Yeah. So it was like beginning of sophomore year.

So 2020 or like 2019. And then I realized like I started doing like a little, I get comments like hard eyes. Like they'd be like, oh, white chocolate in the comments. Okay. So that, so that I started doing thirst traps. And then when I started doing like a little, I started doing. dirt traps like my views start going up my fall start going up and then i kind of just like went on and off thirst traps throughout high school uh but i'll get roasted in class and they'd be like oh like oh

they would just make fun of me or pull my tic talks at me like trying to look good in high school yeah in high school and then i got to my senior year and right when i graduate i hit 100k on um ticot but so that's like six years like 2020 or 2019 until now so i've been doing social media that long but i've only missed streaming since 2020 5 wait 2024 summer what makes you decide to start streaming uh i was doing ticot lives that's how i'm gonna make bread so you're already kind of like my whole backstory or do you want like just like no yeah no like your actual backstory so

so i graduated high school and i got 100k doing dirt straps and like since i like dirtstraps is so funny yeah so then i was like i'm like i got motion but like at the time i'm like i thought 100K was like a mill like that was insane so then I was doing third traps and then um I went to college to play football I play like division two football yeah uh and when I went there I stopped doing it for like a whole year you should focus on football I was I was like I was talking with football my school work because like my grades weren't the best and then the summer like I did my whole freshman year and I didn't post at all on TikTok and like my account was like it was fries like it was and then going into my sophomore year I was landscaping and I was like yo I just

want to start posting on TikTok again because I was I was working outside and I was like practicing for football and then that's what I started doing TikToks I started picking up again hit like 200k and I started doing like um TikTok lives and I started making like 20K a month doing TikTok live like you're battling people you're making 20K a month on TikTok live yeah I used to so I used to like uh I used to shit I still I don't think like I'm gonna do all that's and I start begging like sugar mommies to like give me money and I'll text them at Grunt. I'll end my stream and I'll text him on TikTok DMs like, thank you so much for gifting me today.

Dude, no disrespect. No disrespect. It was like, loki, you were like a chick. I was like, it's insane. It was like an OG like only fans, but for guys. Wow. Yeah, but I didn't say no nothing. I would just text him.

I would risen up. You didn't send anything? You said he said, um, I sold underwear once. I've sold underwear. You told me that. You sold underwear? Wait, wait, like. Wow.

Wait, did you really? Like used underwear? No, I ain't some underwear. Oh. Yeah, get baby. Wait, like used underwear? No, I saw underwear. No.

But one time, so I'm going to DM me for feet pictures. So I started, I took pictures of my roommate's feet when he was sleeping at in college. I made like a couple hundred. You sold your roommate's feet. Yeah, but it wasn't mine. But they thought it was yours. Okay. Young hustler.

Does he know this? No, because they don't have to split the bread. He's going to sit in a lot. I mean, it was Matt long ago. I was only a couple hundred. I was going to send you an invoice. Yeah. But yeah, I did that.

I did like the TikTok. I was making bread, and then I dropped out of college because I started making like decent money. It was like 10K and then it got up all way to like 20K. Like it wasn't 20K off rip. Yeah. But I was in college paying football while I was making money on TikTok. And like I was growing. And then from there I was like, damn, like I want to actually be known for like making content, like my personality.

So then I started to do Twitch. And I dropped out like I dropped out of college. I stayed at my parents crib for like six months. I stacked that money. And then I moved to Miami. And I was 20 at the time. So I just moved to Miami. with my boy. From where? Boston. Boston, okay. Yeah, that's what I'm from. That's it.

So I moved there just off TikTok and I was Twitch streaming like once a week, maybe. I was so inconsistent. And then, um, what do you average? Like, when you first started streaming on Twitch, what were you averaging? And it's like just desktop stuff? Yeah, I was probably averaging like 20 viewers. Damn. And it was crazy because when I would go TikTok, like, I'd post on TikTok and I'd get millions of views, thirst traps. But when I go live on Twitch, I'd have like, 20 views. So how do you I think you actually get it to convert. How did it start to actually convert? Bro, I became my own editor.

So, like, I learned how to edit on TikTok clip styles. Like, I studied, like, the phase dudes and everyone. And I was like, how are their clips going, like, going viral? Because I wasn't going to pay someone. I didn't even know, like, about paying clippers. Yeah. And I made my own clip page. I'm pretending like I was someone else.

I'm like, bro thinks he's, bro thinks he got rid of it. And I would edit myself from my Twitch streams. Yeah. And, like, third person. It was like, cook. And then that, that was just the beginning. And I was like 2024. And then, yeah, it's been like two years since.

And that's when I started. When did it really start to get traction, though? So I came out last year, a year ago from like right now and I met you at Zoo Culture. And I was my first stream in L. I was my first time when I met Lanna. It was my second time doing streaming. Where did you meet her at?

The day before. Okay. Oh, I DM there. I put her on an E-Date and I had like a million view clip, like back to back. And I was like, yo, I'm a fly to L.A. And do an IRA stream with her. And I had like 40 viewers and I bought it at 50 viewers or 60 viewers to go to 100. Wait what?

You bought you bought it? Yeah, I used to bought all my. So every time, every time before I was parked stream so I could get partnered, I would, I'd have like, I average like 40 views. And I have James bought me like 30 viewers so I could have 75 so I could get partnered. I respect that. So there was one time I was streaming with a girl. I was streaming with Hemena. The first time I came to L.A. like a year ago.

And I had like 110 viewers. And we were at Topoli. and it hit the two hour mark so the bots ran out and I dropped to like 40 viewers and I ran to the bathroom I started texting James because we're in Chipotle I'm like yo get more bots get more bots get more bots

I've never heard a botter talk about like No bro I swear to God No good it's so fucking I haven't done it since Why I started averaging like over like 100 viewers I thought So I probably stopped botting like last September I respect the honesty man most people just like

like totally cap about that. I wouldn't I would never got that uh you need the purple check to have or on Twitch you have to average 75 viewers for a month now it's even easier but back then or like a year ago you had to average 75 viewers for like 30 days straight if my drop below 75 bro I'm like that's some boss so the girl content really started to help you that was my first thing that like went crazy I was in Miami so I have random only fans girls on stream all the time and I get viral clips I do millions like in the hot tub like smack just doing random but then the next day I go live and I don't have a girl there and I back down to 20 views. Girls are the meta, man.

It's been that way forever on content. It'll never end. It's like parisocial, like, but that was just the beginning to like, like, like now I think of content totally different. I know we've talked about it. But yeah, yeah, yeah. That was how I really started growing and I, like, I built up kind of like a parosocial relationship because it was benefiting, like with me and Lana last year.

And then that's why I started averaging like 100, 200, 300, 400. And then it got to a point where it was like 1,000. And then we started like, I started adding drama with it. And like I started doing crazy shit to make her crash out. And it was like, nah, I average 1,000, 2,000, 3,000, 4,000. And then like over time I've like realized different ways though. Yeah. How did you go ahead.

No, no, I'm saying. It's been like six year journey, but like, you feel me, it's like ups and downs and all that. But the last few years is really taking off. Bro, like the last, I'll say not even last year. Like October, like the last 10 months, nine months. That's when I started growing. Yeah. It's crazy how fast life can just change.

OD. Yeah. Did you think this was going to be this way when you started or like? 100%. Because the thing I always ask people, I always find it so interesting about like literally all successful people that I've talked to. They always talk about at some point before they even got close to where they're at, they felt it like that it was going to happen.

Yeah. Could you relate to that? When I had 100K, I thought I was going to be like Mr. Beast, bro. Yeah. Still, it's all order. No, I swear to God, like I always, I was like, yo, I'm going to be one of the biggest. I just didn't know how to do it. And I just like kept finding ways. Yeah. Because I, bro, I moved out right. Like, I was quit football the second I started making

money. I was like, put myself in a position where it's like, this is my only option. You had to do it. Yeah, I had to do. I think that's the best thing for someone to do. Like, I moved to Miami, like out of my parents crib, like, when I was 20 years old. Like, I moved to a, like, I didn't even know how to apply for an apartment. Like, I didn't know to do none of it. So I got my first apartment with my name on a lease at 20. And I was like, in Miami, like, so random. Forced yourself to do it. Yeah, I was just by myself. Like, I didn't have no one to tell me like, oh, like, do this or that and I was like no way I'm getting a job out here like no yeah yeah what about you

how did you get started like content in general or just streaming content um probably in like 2019 i'd like post like little dumb tictox with my friends but um my it's like it's like it's kind of like the same like honestly like hearing you like a lot of our stories like the same i'm not gonna lie i did the ticot live battles too i used to post thirst traps too but the only difference is is my third straps like I would only get gay dudes in the comments like it was just all like you would get girls I would just get like hell of gay dudes I don't know I don't know it was all black girls my was like there was a couple girls I'd say it was like 25% girls and then like 75% like like gay dudes and like that's like my like I got my TikTok to like 30k like that but then like

I didn't like I just did it for trolls like I didn't really care um were you DM in the people too like he was no I was in underwear and hell I never was it capitalizing bro up from no that's no that's no I could not do that. Like, that's like, I would, like, throw it. That's like, I could not do that. But that was, like, high school. And then, like, when I graduated high school, I was still do it a little bit.

But after high school, I was trying to go to college for football. But I graduated 2020. So it was COVID. So my college was online. And I just couldn't do it. So trash. It was bull. I hated it.

And then they postponed football for another year. And, um, it was. Bro, I was talking to my dad. dad and then like my dad's a type of guy he just like takes action you know so like i was talking about it i was like i don't know what i'm a do two days later he calls me he has his own construction company he's like hey like you're gonna come work for me like you're dropping out of college and like i heard that and it felt like a relief and i was like all right so at the age of 19 i started working construction for my dad and i haven't touched my tictock at all i haven't really posted anything

just like bullshould posts like never even thought about streaming and um yeah fast forward three and a half years. Working construction, working hard, you know. I was working my way up to. I was going to start getting paid an extra like 500 bucks a week, like maybe like $1,500, which was like really good for me.

You're making $1,500 a week? Yeah. Oh, that's really good. I was making $1,000 and then they were going to like give me like a little promotion because I was in like do like surveying, like grade checking, which is like, you know,

like takes like little brains. I'm not like just like using a shovel anymore. But then it started raining. This was like around December. It started raining. a lot so we were out of work and I was just sitting at home one day I was out of work for like three weeks and I was like back then I was always in the gym no matter what like like every day always in the gym I wanted to like look good you know and that's all I had throughout my day and I was just like I was

thinking myself I'm like what am I going to do with my life like I genuinely like I turned off my computer it was like 8 p.m. at night it was dark and I just literally sat on the floor and I was like what do I want to do with my life and like back then I I used to do TikTok Live too. Like I would say like a month before that like thought and like before the rain happened and shit like that. Like I started doing TikTok live and I was making like pretty good money. Like I started out like like 2K.

Then like I had this one mom come in and she started sending me like hell of money like 10K like all that. And I was on TikTok live one night and I had like 10 viewers chats laughing. I'm just like being a troll. And I was like talking to them and I was like, I was like, you know what? I was like, I want to start streaming on Twitch. And then that stream alone, I made like, I think like four or $500. And I was like, there's my money to buy a webcam.

So, and I already had a PC because, you know, I play League of Legends. So I bought a webcam, made my Twitch account February 9th, 2020. And ever since then, I've been consistently streaming until where I'm at now. Like every day? The only days I would miss is if, like, my computer's not working or like, it's like, my mom's. And what would you talk about? You just get on there and talk to it or? I was a gamer.

I would only game. I would boot up and just play like variety games, horror games. I'd play Dead by Daylight. I don't know if you know what that is. League of Legends. But I did that for about a year, averaging like 10 to 20 viewers, 10 to 20 viewers for like a year straight. Then I got raided by this one big streamer. His name's Jet Daddy.

He doesn't stream anymore, but he was very well known in Valourn. And he raided me because he like saw me from League of Legends. After I got that raid, I looked him up. I was like, no way, you're from Valorant. So I was like, okay, I'm going to start playing Valour. I, like, you know, I, I fuck with this dude. Like, I'm going to try out the game. I started playing Valorant, posting Valorant clips.

My Val, and, like, that was the first time. So you're like an E-girl. Huh? So you're like an E-girl. I'm an E-girl? Yeah, that's who plays Valron. Yeah, there's a lot of E-Girls in Val. I'll get to that.

That's, like, how I blew up in Val. I, um, I started playing Val at first. Like, I was just, like, more, like, raging. Like, like, I, like, video games, like, I get really heated. Yeah, me too. crashing out, like, crazy. Like, hitting my desk, yelling. Like those clips like started getting like,

This guy yells at 12 year olds. If they do bad on the team, yeah. We don't want them on the team. Bears. I don't give a, we're playing a video game. We're trying to win. Exactly.

Yeah. Oh, League of Legends. I get so mad. I can't stream that game. I'll genuinely say something. But yeah, I started seeing a little success in Valour.

My view started going from like 30, 40, 50. And I was like, okay, okay, starting to go. Then I was around like, like 50, 60 viewers. And then there was this one game in Valerant. This is what like, like, was the start of my career. I'll never forget. The score was 12 to 3. And like in Valor, like you need to get 13 to win. Some kid came in my chat. I had like, I got rated so I had like

70 or 80 viewers. And he was like, yo, he was like, if you come back and win this game, I'll give you 50 subs. And like that was the start of my TikTok. I read it out loud. And I was like, all right, bet. Boom. I started playing like MVP. LeBron James. Every round, I'm getting three kills. I was in like a three v. one scenario. I'm clutching up killing them. like I'm like doing like the unthinkable. I get the game to go to overtime. It's 12 to 12. We win like in an overtime you have to win by two.

So we won around. They run around bang. Then like you have to go again. We won one. They won one bang. Then there was one round where I was like yeah I don't go. And like I held like this like I don't, do you know about it? Yeah.

I held like an angle to where like you have one chance to shoot a shot. If you don't, they're going to wide swing you and you're dead. And I held the angle and like I was like, I don't go. I'm holding. the show I'm gonna get him and get a fucking kill. And like right when they swung out, I killed one dashed out. I was like, I can go. Then like the whole team started coming on site.

Kill them, kill them. I got like an ace or whatever like that. And then like the game ended we won. I was freaking out. Like I was like, I was like just going crazy. I ended my stream. And at that time I didn't have anyone to edit for me. So I ended my stream.

I took the next day off. I spent four hours editing that video because like I use Capca. I suck that editing. And like I was talking to like one of my like head mods, one of my like really, really good friends. He's still there with me to this day ever since I first started streaming. And he was like, bro, just like boot up. Like I'll do it. And I was like, no, no.

I was like, I have to edit this. Like I know this going viral. Like I know what's going viral. I took that day off. And then the next day I woke up posted it at like 10 a.m. Because I was all about like, oh certain times you have to post videos. I posted it in the span of like five hours. They got like 500K views.

My Twitch, I wasn't even alive. People were following me. And then like right now it's sitting at like three or four million views, but like back then like TikTok views like really like like what's the word like went to Twitch? Converted. Converted to Twitch. Like I don't know if it was like that for you back in the day, but like three million views on TikTok I got like an extra like 60 average viewers on Twitch. My shit was going crazy. And then yeah, then I was I played Valor for about a year.

I'll like sum it up. I played Val for about a year. Still did like my rage content averaging like 100 to 200 or 200 views. viewers, but then I started getting into like girl content through Valoran. I would like Riz up girls in game. And like that started blowing up like crazy. Like like to this day, I'm like known as like the Valorant like Riz guy. Like it's,

I mentioned a year old thing. Talk about Morgan. I'm getting to that, bro. I'm getting to that fucking say you got to talk about Lona. A little cucks, okay. But listen, then then I was going crazy in Valerrant. I started I started getting to like high 200, 300 viewers and then

I met this one girl and this is what really set my career off and it's not Morgan. We're not there yet. Her name was Lydia. She's a professional valiant player. How did it happen? Oh yeah, I was on stream and I opened up my Twitter on stream and she followed me on stream. She's like a female pro player like really good at the game. And I'm going to be honest, 10 minutes before I booted up, I saw that she followed me and I was like, I was like, I'm going to react to this.

live on stream and act like I didn't see it on stream until like I open stream. So I booted up stream 30 minutes in stream, whatever like that. Bang. I'm like, chat, like let's look at Twitter. It's like the Twittercom. And I was like, oh, like, who's this girl? And I looked at her profile. I was like, she's kind of bad.

And I was okay. And then I followed her back. And then I was playing live on stream. She comes in my chat and like says something. I say something back. And I'm like, yo, Lydia, watch this. I get an ace that round. Like I went crazy.

Like I like held an angle. One, two, three kills. I'm pushing up four kills Chase the other dude Killed the whole team And then yeah That TikTok blew up And then

That TikTok got like 10 million views on TikTok Like 10 million on like YouTube shorts Like 20 million on IG And the YouTube like the TikTok's like great But the YouTube video is what took me From like 300 viewers to like a thousand In like two days Like I never knew how

Insane YouTube Like YouTube is like a different type of motion like 50 to 100,000 views on YouTube is like, like I feel like that's better than like 5 mil on TikTok. Like I feel like it's way better. But did you ever convert that girl in real life? Yeah, I met her in real life. I flew out to see her.

I flew out to Texas to see her. Did you crack? No. I'm not like you. So you didn't convert. What do I mean? Yeah, you didn't convert it. Might as well ever even flew out.

No, no, I did. I'm getting to that. So like, like that TikTok blew up all that. Like we started doing like hello streams together. playing in Valor. And like the reason I flew out was for her birthday. So like it was like boom, I met her that blew up. And then like a month like a month, what's called in the future, whatever like that was her birthday.

So like I started posting like a YouTube video every three days, like every week about like me and her. And it was like 400,000, 300,000, 300,000, like just all of them were blowing up until like I met her. And then that YouTube video blew up. And like that stream, I averaged like 3K viewers. was peaked like 4K like like best stream ever then I went home and she ghosted me and what yeah she she didn't want to do the con like her streams were blowing up too she probably really wanted to date you and really talk to you and no oh yeah yeah don't get him started no yeah she didn't she didn't want to do that kind of content anymore because she just wanted to focus more like professional gaming

professional gaming yeah so she started like ghosting me and then like I just called her one day because, like, my child was always asking about her. I was like, I don't chat. Like, I don't know. Like, she's just not responding to me. So I called her. I was like, hey, like, I'm going to be straightforward. Like, if you don't want to do this anymore, like,

can we just, like, get on stream and like, let's just like, you know, end it there. You know, let's not do like this whole ghost and thing. She was like, yeah, like, yeah, like, I don't really want to do it anymore. Like, blah, blah. I'm sorry. I'm like, no, it's okay. Like, you know, we just got to like, you know, we have to have an end, you know, because it was on the internet.

It's on the internet. It has to end on the internet, you know? And then, yeah, we ended on the internet. And then two days later, I met this one girl named Morgan. Two days later. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. Two days later, I met this one girl named Morgan. And that, like, blew up, like, crazy.

Like, every stream I was averaging, like, two to three. That's when I first saw you. Yeah. Or the Morgan show. And that went crazy. We did a stream for my birthday, which was, like, 10 days after I met her. That stream, my average. 5,000 viewers. I peaked like 7k insane. Is this IRA now at this point? Yeah. Yeah, my fault. Yeah,

we went, um, we went IRL. Um, that's when I like went like balls deep on like equipment. Like I bought like a professional camera, a live view, cameraman. Like, I'm the type to where like, if I know the content's good, like I'm going to invest. I don't care if I break even or even lose money. You know, like, yeah, like I'm going to like make the shit happen because I know like in the future like it's all going to be worth it. Um, and then yeah, I started doing content with her. but my one mistake was, and he knows it too I've talked about it multiple times, is I only, every single stream was about our relationship.

Yeah. Because anytime I wouldn't talk about a relationship, I'd see my views drop and it would get in my head and I would end my stream. And I just got stuck in this thought process to where I can't do any other content besides with her. Yeah, then we ended up, it happened on the internet. We ended up breaking up,

and I went right back down to, like, like 200 viewers, like 300 viewers. Did you really date her? Yeah, we did. Oh, wow, nice. Yeah. And I went back down to like two, 300 viewers, like, genuinely like one of the lowest points of my life.

Lost the girl, lost the viewers. I lost the viewers. I was getting hate. People telling me like, they're like legit. Like my, like, sorry, you don't have to bleat this out. Yeah, it's fine. Like, you know, like, like, blimp. So, like, yeah, they literally would tell me that in my DMs.

Like, every day I'd get like, I'm not even exaggerate. Like, I'm not even exaggerate. Like, 100 plus Instagram DMs, people like actually tell me like, it's like, because she wasn't a part of the content. Yes, because she was not part of the content anymore. It got to me. That was probably the closest I've ever been to quitting streaming. But yeah, I just kept pushing forward and I just expanded my content.

And now I'm where I'm at right now. Look at you now. It's funny. You all have like, you all have like a girl arc. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry I was long. No, no, no.

It's all good. But I've gone through periods of time of like stopping that. And honestly, I've learned from Braden that you just got to be okay with when it's low. Like I think I've like before streamer you like I guess I have done some girl content leading up to it but before that I wasn't and I just took the L and was like okay I'll take the 200 300 and lower views now I'm okay with that now like I've like my mind is like so like I completely understand it like like like for example like at like streamer you like I was like obviously

you saw like the clips of like Sarah like she's like really cool and um like at one time we had like 2,000 plus viewers like just like literally us talking I'll go to my room an hour later I'm at like 800 viewers you know yeah but like Back then, it used to get to me now. Like, I completely understand. It's like, it's just like when there's a guy and girl, like, it's like, you know, people are like way more inclined to watch. Just engaging, yeah.

Yeah, it's very engaging. Yeah. But the thing is like, and I've talked to Braden about this too. And obviously, Nick, I haven't had as much time because you just got to L.A., but trying to establish yourself outside of those sort of like, I don't know what you call them love interests or like just the pariscial, like, relationship stuff is the key to actually like having. Legendary has arrived in Alberta with BetMGM Casino.

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how did you guys actually get accepted to this? How did this work? Because I think a lot of people, they see from the outside, I think a lot of people have this perspective online. Like, it's like orchestrated. I think some people are mad they didn't get in. Some people are like,

you know, do they pick certain people that they wanted? Or is it like actually a fair shot at being in it? So like the first time when they got announced, I applied last year Like when I had like a hundred viewers Like no one knew about me And I like didn't put hell of effort

Like I thought I had aura Like I didn't want to be cringe applying for the stream of university You know what I'm saying? I was like oh maybe I'll get in And then I just never got in And I remember seen it blow up Everyone went crazy And then when he announced it this year

Because he had the streamed it so long Like everyone knew when he announced it It was gonna be like the biggest thing Like it was gonna be like This year was gonna be bigger than last year Yeah So the day of like They didn't even have in person trials last year

It was just you submit a thing online And like if you get get in like is valid. I think this year was all about in person. All in person. This guy got in. I think the people they let in are the people who fought for it who really presented well. This guy, I mean, you can tell it, but he started in L.A.

and traveled all the way to Atlanta. I'll let you tell it. Like you kept showing up. Yeah. So I went with Braden in L.A. And like, obviously shout out of this guy. Like, it would have been really hard to do it by myself. But he really pushed me.

Me and him went to L.A. We camped outside for what? Two and a half days, right? Yeah. Like, you camped outside? camped outside and slept in my car like with like the windows a little down because it was like hot um people were coming up to us at night like waking us up like because like they know like that's where the events but we did that for two straight nights just to get in person like auditions like to like

like you know apply for stream university and um i was like the next i was like the next group up how many people are showing up to this dude no there was hella it was like everywhere it was crazy You know, because like we, in my head, when I, like, it was two days before, no one was camping out. And I was like, I was talking with Noah. He was like, yo, you got to go camp out right now. And I'm like, bro, it's on Sunday. Like, it was Friday. Like, it was Friday morning.

I woke up at 8 a.m. or 9 a.m. He was like, yo, go there right now. It was an hour away. I went and got, I sparked stream, like, with nothing. Because they just announced, like, because they were in New York at the time. Like the same day they're in New York. Because they did New York, L.A., Atlanta. Yeah.

And then I'm like, what if we camp outside? And I stream the whole. thing of us camping outside for two days prior to even like getting in because like if you build up like that lore and like your community watches it even if you don't get accepted or don't get in like you made content for the last three days. So I was like I'm getting viral clips like I know I know if I go for three days it's bound I get viral clips it's bound to build a storyline is bound that people like connect with me and like they want to see me get in you know. Yeah. So that's literally what I did I hit you up or like you were like you all going to go or I said he called me. He called me. He

he was like, yo, like, like, I don't know what that. I told you, I was like, yo, I'm going. I was like, yo, I'm going. I went on stream. I got a generator. I got a tank. I got some other shit. And like, I literally. I saw it. And I was like, you weren't going to go.

I wasn't going to go. Then I talked to my boy. And then he was like, you should probably go. And I was like, dude, can I just show up like the day of? But then like he was telling me like same thing. Like it's like good lore. You know, like your camp outside for two days. Like it shows like dedication.

Like you want a bad. You know? Because I, like, I play football. So I know like, you know, like how like that looks. And I was like, okay, like I'm gonna just go. Yeah, so we ain't shower. We went to a random gym to take a shower one day. We were doing like hell of random sidequist.

We helped a cop like arrest like a random dude who was running down the street like a criminal. Oh, that was like, throughout the two days, just like hell of random shit. It wasn't like we're just sitting outside like we like we had our like we had our spots because like there wasn't a dedicated like designated line yet. Like so like people were basically just camping like nearby. So like we were camped right outside the college. We were spawn camping those. We were spawn camping basically, you know? So like we would like go to Target, do whatever and then like it was at night.

Like there was like a, how did it happen? Do you remember? We was charging up Tesla and we were walking around and like a criminal ran by us and a cop car was chasing and he hid behind the house. We told the cops where he was at. Like we saw him and I looked at him. And I looked at him we had our stream and I was like, should we tell him? We're like, chat, one if we tell the cops too not and like a whole chat was saying one or like cops drove by? were like, he's in there.

And like they went and got him. Holy shit. Because like those two days all led up to like just the day of in the morning. Because that's when most people showed up. And then from then, like we slept on stream for two days prior. And then we were there at 6 a.m. or 8 a.m. all the way until like us getting through the door, us waiting in line. You had to be the first people there then.

Bro, not even. There was people that happened. There was people that happened. People that. It was so unorganized. It was just a big jumble of people. Like you could look at clips. There was a clip in, and it was me and Connor next to each other in like a

big pile and it was like everybody sweaty and a kid had a diaper on next to us who was waiting and the clip on viral like he pulled his pants on and showed his diaper like you legit like it's like you would smell shit like he was literally shitting in his pants it was so d bad I was just like yeah and then we went to auditorium and then I found a way and I snuck into like the creator room because they weren't letting me in for some reason but I knew Lacey

Oh you snuck in there? Yeah I didn't know it was different for club directors for us like for I think for club directors he really wanted to find people that like he could trust to do this job because these guys, they're all trying out to be students, but club directors have a responsibility and have to have something planned. Like, mine was the party. Yanna was drama. Um, who's the guy to debate? Marcus. Marcus. He was so good. But it's, it was so much response. Kai called me like, I remember I was getting a haircut. He called me two months before. I think he wanted to test the waters to see like, if this is something I'd want to do. Because you do that big ass frat party with him on YouTube.

So yeah, Kai and I threw a, it's something he reached out to me that he wanted me to do, that he wanted to do together. We crushed it. It went so well. And then after Kai actually like two days after we did the first frat party, he was like, Nick, let's go on a whole tour of colleges and do these frat parties. But the issue was, and it never ended up happening because the internet was so bad when we did that. It just like didn't really make sense. So then I came and did the party for Streamer U last year. And then this year, he's like, is this, would you be interested in being, we want me, we're thinking about starting a fraternity. I think he called me not knowing if he was actually going to go through with it and was interested if I'd want to do it. And I think the biggest thing is he always knew I wanted to stream. And I was like, yeah, I would love to do this. It would be an honor to do it. And he's like, all right, we'll show up to tryouts.

You can just come in and do the tryout. So for me, he texted me the day before the trial. He's just like, come super prepared. Like, this is something like, if this is going to happen, I want to really know that you can do this. And I want to see it in the interview. I remember I was telling Brain. I was like, dude, I have less than 24 hours to figure.

figure out how to do this. So in 24 hours, I came up like the craziest most prepared, uh, pitch. And we went in and pitched it. It went really well and really viral. And then, uh, I mean, for me, I didn't know if I was going to get in. And then when he did the announcement, I was like the first club director. That's when you found out. Yeah. I was going crazy, bro. Yeah. No, I had no idea before. You were an IRR. Right when you found out? If I remember. Yeah, I was IRA. I actually, I actually, uh, texted him. Like, I'm like, am I doing this? My non? He's like, bro, we don't know, you just need to wait until the announcement. I really think, like, they probably really didn't know until I did that interview.

How involved was Kai with the actual streamer university? Like, at the campus? Yeah. Yeah, he was there the whole time, like, walking around. Yeah. He would only stream, like, two, three hours a day, but, like, he would be on the campus, like, the whole time, like, not even on stream, no camera guy following and just, like, coming in our streams and, like, talking to us and, like, chasing people down, like,

on their, like, you know? Would you notice if he was on your stream that your viewership would go up? a little bit yeah but like he wasn't like I never had moments with him like where he's on my stream for like yeah like it would have to be for like at least like five minutes yeah a few minutes for like really like start going but like I would notice like there was one time he was on my stream for five minutes and like my one up like two 300 and I was just like damn I think he's really good at like coming into people's streams and like giving them something to do or giving something a storyline to work on like he'd probably come into my stream and it would set some

argument about a fraternity thing and they could be like oh what did you guys actually learn because it's like a, you know, university. I know obviously it's just a collective of people getting content and working together, right? It's the biggest benefit there because the collab aspect. But like, did you actually learn anything different that you didn't know?

So they had really good classes there, but like every time I was in class, my chat just wanted me, they said, mad boring, boring in the chat, so I just kept leaving class and skipping it. Did you leave Ludwig's? I didn't go to this class. Ludwig?

Yeah, I didn't go to any class. Oh, you talk about it. You talk about it. I mean, I was never took a class. I was a club director, but I didn't watch any clip. until after streamer you and I've been watching all of Lugwood's classes and I'm also coming from YouTube to streaming primarily he is a genius and it's all now I think that's maybe

the only class that I was like seeing that people are really learning things that can take stuff away he's talking about thumbnails talking about retention he's talking about how to do intros for your YouTube video that was like a real like a real class he seems like an actual professor yeah I would say Ludwig and agent had like or I mean I loki didn't go to like all the classes but agent like the way he talks about like brand deals and monetization and like if you have this many followers work on this like agent had a really good class too i forgot agent a lot but if you had this many followers work on this what was that specifically uh from like zero to 250k this is what your team should look like you should have an editor you should have uh maybe an assistant like no don't have an

assistant but have like someone who helps you with thumbnails or you know what I'm saying like and then maybe you should reach out to these lower tier brands and maybe get a brand deal and like build your community and then if you have this to this many followers you should probably have two or three more employees and then have like he just talked about like the stages of like all the way from zero like a million follow yeah it's like the business side of it to to to have everything like smooth and running and monetize and and have like even just reaching out to like businesses or getting like uh agency to to like promote you know what I'm saying yeah brand deals and stuff so you can like keep growing bigger yeah but how to how to how to

like grow the business side of it yeah yeah I saw like these sort of like sheets of people getting certain followers like after Streamer University what do you think got people more followers is just going more viral getting more clips like what was the virality 100% yeah I would think a big thing

like if you have viral clips like if you have a lot of viral clips you're going to gain more followers no matter what I think it's such a funny concept because everyone is trying to do the same thing but like not everyone was in streamer you there was only 150 so like literally the whole for you page

Like when I would lay in bed at night and like like I'm literally like I stream 24 seven so I was just streaming me sleeping too like I'm grinding scroll streamer you streamer you streamer you like nothing else other than stream you so like people like like like pay for like clipping campaigns like you got to go like all in. I think it's about finding your purpose within there like the first two days was a huge challenge for me. I mean you guys have been in the stream game you guys know how to like go in and out of like the bits and everything. but I think like, I think a lot of the people who were successful and who grew a lot, like found their own storylines, their own purpose and own reason for being there. Luckily, like, I had a storyline with like throwing the party, but I think the biggest learning curve, I really realized that streaming, like, and I love this about it, it's a craft. It really is like a craft.

The way people conduct, I think the biggest thing is like when I saw DG come on campus with Rukai, like, it was a whole, like, that was a top level streaming bit that they were doing and how, like, they would react to one situation they would throw at each other. And that was like, first two days, I was like, whoa, this is way out of my comfort zone. You guys are so good at it. You guys are around it a lot more, but I don't even. You're talking about the way that they just interact and like whatever it's there. The way streamers interact.

And, you know, at first, I tried to attempt to like add to the, I don't know how to explain it, but like give the same energy as they would in a bit. And then it felt like it did feel right. But what I realized, I would reflect every night when I would go back to my room with my cameraman. And it's about putting yourself into that bit. Like, I think, sometimes I feel like I wasn't being myself, but I had to find a way to be me, but still go around the storyline and what's going on at Streamer U. I don't know if that makes sense.

Yeah, the stream who grew the most with a suburb baby. And like, I saw a ton of those. He 100% deserved it. He had, like, the most outgoing, like, interactive, like, entertaining personality. But it's like if you don't have that personality naturally, like it's hard to fake that. So like that's why I think he grew so much because like he's being himself and like he's like pulling up with orbie guns or jumping people or putting hot sauce on people. I saw you slip. Huh?

I saw you slip. Oh, you didn't. I saw you slip bad. I didn't. I saw you slip back from your arm, bro. Like you ran out, you thought you were going to get someone. My shoe ripped in half. That's what happened.

I just saw you slip. My whole shoe ripped off. My whole shoe ripped off like on some zone. Williams and shit. No dead ass. And everyone thinks I just fell. I just fell. My little brother sent a video to my family group chat laughing at me.

Yeah, I think it's funny. Bro, it was so funny. Dude, you were dripping blood when I saw you. Yeah, I know. It's so bad. Yeah, I know. But it's because they somewhat. Sorry, it was funny, bro.

I watched it like five times. It was good. I almost sent it to you. It would be like, good job. Yeah. You didn't see any. It was like a war zone out there at some time. It was.

It was really like, it was a lot of like wars and fighting and like craziness. So it's like if you have a personality that's like, really good at like, I don't even know, like, trolling. Befing and trolling and like, you're going to grow the most 100%.

But I think Suburb Baby like understanding his content, he definitely put himself. That's himself. Yeah. Into this world and it just, he found how to fit that. So I think that that was the biggest challenge for a lot of people is how do you put your personality of who you are and fit in this world?

And his personality, like, I feel like was like perfect for like the scenario of like stream you or shit. Yeah. On day three, I feel like, I don't know how you guys were. I feel like I found a groove, but it took like two days. And then it was done. It was like five days, yeah. It took me until day three because my, my equipment wasn't working the first two days.

I couldn't stream until 5 p.m. on the second day. The first two days, literally my whole stream was just not working in it, like, killed my mental. Is it just everyone just walking around, like, you guys are just have to do certain things throughout the day? Yeah, like classes or you're eating food, like, and it has a group the whole time? There's not a group, but like when you go to class, like you're in class with like the same people. They put you in groups for the classes. But like it'll be like you wake up breakfast,

then you troll around for a bit. Then you have this class. You go to that class. Then you have another class right after. Then you have like an hour break or whatever like that to get lunch. And then like yeah. And then after classes, it becomes a war zone.

Yeah. Did it feel clickish? No, you know, to be honest. I mean, from my perspective, I feel like everyone kind of blended together. I think we all met a whole bunch of people. people, I think the culture that Kai made was really pushing like go meet new people, make an extra effort to meet everybody and talk to everybody there. There's probably only like two or three people

that I probably didn't get to know that well or didn't talk to at some point. But yeah, after classes, it was it was the club director. So they were both in the frat. So throughout the day, I would have to prep what we're doing at that club meeting. I think our second club meeting got ambushed by the science department. I got fart spray all over me. ketchup and that who was the guy who had like a million different outfits oh there's two there's one name dude jacob and then his boy starts with an x i keep forgetting his name but bat man they're both so funny i think yeah they were very talented what they were doing was crazy yeah i kept seeing i was like this guy every time i saw him he's been wearing something different

you did the e and tic-tok with him i saw that was good oh it hit yeah his soul surfer one i think that was the funniest he just walked like riding a skateboard or is that what the silver guy's name is yeah i was one of silver surfer Silver surfer, not soul surfer, yeah. When he was Jeffrey, when he was Jeff. That was the goal by her arm bit off. That was so funny. Soul Surfer is when the shorty who got her armpit off in Hawaii.

Oh, that's right. That is that movie. Why did I laugh at that? Because like, it's a movie. I know. It's a real, it's a true story. Yeah, it's a real story. She has no arm.

It's gone. It's not funny. A shark ate her arm. Yeah, I know. And then she keeps surfing. And she surf with one arm. She won like an event, right? She had to tape her arm to the surfboard.

Did she actually? You're trolling me. Why are you laughing? You're trolling me. No, that's how she would. No, they made her arm like a paddle. They like, stop. You're with me.

He's fucking. That's true. I'm being rude. Oh, my God. So, like, individually, like, what was your, what was your storyline? You could go one by one. Like, what did you try to focus on? No, boss.

Because I talked to you before you went. I talked to before you went. I was like, yo, you got to get a clip. You're like, I got that. And so what was your storyline? When you got his hall pass? Oh, you got a hall pass? All right, bro.

So basically, yo, storyline. is everything when it comes to streaming. Whether like big, like, whether you know it or not, all the biggest streamers like have some sort of storyline or like, you, Nick taught me the storyline.

That as before I knew about storyline and I was doing it, but only in one category. It's also content in general. In content, you have to have storyline so that people can follow to build momentum. And especially with streaming,

it's all about momentum throughout the day, throughout the segment, throughout, like, whatever you're doing, has to have momentum with it. And at first, like, if you're not a personality who just walks around

and just gets like constant, interactive with everyone, is going to be hard because like you're not like if I just go up to a random person I don't know I'm not gonna like

I might overthink of like what I want to say to them and stuff but it's like as far as like building a storyline but for me like when the second day

came around I mean a lot of people know me for like oh talking to girls and like my past with females so homecoming was coming up and we had to ask someone

so I tell how many girls this was amazing this was incredible so in my head I was like damn what's like how could I make everyone want to be a part of my segment.

So I asked 16 girls to Homecoming and I made a sign that I could swap their names out on it. And when I did it, basically like every girl would see it or see me talking to another girl and then just created mad drama. And then dudes would try to like play defense and Dirty Mac and like it basically just like a segment of me just thinking about like, oh, we got Homecoming coming up. How can I make it like, how can I make it about me? So then I made it about me And then it started like the views Started going up because like storyline I went to the library

I got markers I made a sign And then I made all these names And then like it was like a four hour Five hour storyline That's so sorry Who would you end up going with? No one. Oh yeah

Well there was no homecoming right The homecoming kind of got canceled But um All the girls ended up finding out Now I asked everyone And they all kind of dubbed like dubbed me And said no Yeah

And then yeah it kind of ended up like falling through but just the segment itself was like valid yeah because I interacted with every single girl on campus yeah you got job well done yeah and then and then hell of dudes was wanted to come up to me and help me find like a like a date and stuff and I just like that one day was just all storylined off of like finding a homecoming date and that's just like because that's like that's like that's kind of like what I enjoy doing like that's like that's like that's a constant I think is like I'm the best that and like the witty is at it's like with girls and stuff like Instead of me running around like pouring sauces,

I'm a shooting with a gun. Like, I don't really do that. So it was like, this was the most natural for me. It was like most genuine to me. And I loved it. I had so much fun doing it. It was like your chat realizes. Instead of me like pretending to play a role.

I think he's so good at like, this is where, like, this is a streaming thing that I've learned the crossover from YouTube to streaming. Is streamers like their storylines are so action-packed. It's happening so fast. We're like, I think from YouTube is like the way we would think is how do we make this last over a long period of time and build up to something. But with streaming, It has to be action.

I feel you're so good at that. That's what I've noticed through. But you came up that homecoming idea and just went with that. And then from there, like, it led to another storyline with like another girl. And then that was like when it like peaked. Like, more girl. She's running into the pond. Oh, nah.

So basically this girl named Aisha, she like, she's been to the gym. Yeah. But that was like, I guess she was like, she used to be friends with Lana or like his friends with Lana. And then she wanted to take me into a homecoming so that I couldn't go to another girl to protect Lana or some shit. But I ended up just like hanging out with her a lot and then going to the club with her.

And then after the club, like, we ended up going like swimming. Bro, it was so good. In the pond. And then we broke into the auditorium and started doing like karaoke at like 1 a.m. or 2 a.m. All the live. Dude, they were all live and I had like 12, 13K viewers. Yeah, that was a legit.

This was like a movie, bro. I only know that storyline girl stuff. So that's why I had to do it. That was awesome. That's my easiest storylines is like with girls. So it's like my bread and butter. So I'd pull up my old. Yeah, I get you.

You found me? Yeah, you powered up through the storyline. Throughout the days, like, that's what I do. And like, I only got five days to have this audience watching me. So I was like, do you ever, did you ever get for doing that with girls? Yeah, I got hella hate. And then Yanna even pressed me about it. And then that kind of went viral.

And then a lot of people got hate from it. What about like your girl? What about? Yeah, she was crashing out on me, Hela. She wasn't happy about it. And I was just like, yo, just. How do you deal with that? I'm gonna be honest, bro, I didn't text her for like the whole day.

And it made it so bad. Yeah. I didn't text for the whole day because like I'm already, I'm entertaining three, four, five thousand people and I'm trying to, and they're telling me what to do. And I'm like at Streamer U and I'm like stressing about all these other things. It's like, I'm just trying to like grow as much as I can right now. And streaming is going to end. And like this growth right now is not going to last forever.

Like I'm going to get more people going to see me. But like when I get back, it's like, I'm going to get back. So I'm going to get back to my regular content. And like the main thing was networking for stream you. So that in the future I can collab with new people and new audiences. Yeah. But in stream you, I was like,

I was just trying to make what like the best I could. It makes sense. With like viewership and like relevancy and growth. And how much did you grow from that? I gained a 145K followers on Twitch in like the five days. And then we gained almost 100K on Instagram. I just hit like, 710K.

I feel like streaming is that's that's impressive. Streaming is like the last thing that really converts to other platforms. Yeah. He posts on Instagram. He posted 140 times on Instagram in five days on real. What a f***. Yeah. Thanks, bro. So because of that so like clips and everything. He's not the one editing it but like I have

people editing and he's reposting on Instagram. Yeah. Everywhere YouTube. Oh, we post like 20 I post like 20 long form videos on YouTube within the five days too. You know how many views total you got? On YouTube? overall like oh yeah i guess i guess not i don't know i know at least 100 mil on ticot bro just on just from like i did a clipping campaign it did like 45k and then my main editor had 45 oh no i did 45 mil my bad the clipping cam made of 45 mil views and then my main editor had 48 mil just on one page on my main ticot page and then like anyone else who did random stuff holy shit and then instagram i did

120 male views in five days. Holy fuck. And then, I don't know. Bro, what a, an opportunity. Yeah. That is so crazy. And it wasn't just all gross stuff, storyline. But I had a lot of interactions with big streamers and

when I fell and busted my, like, a whole bunch of other shit. But it's like, if you have a storyline and, like, other side. Gregus believes in the art of living in choosing the pleasurable over the practical. It's why we craft our premium vodka in France, using pure sports. water from shenzak and why you hear the celebratory club of our quirk reminding us to make every martini cocktail count so go on and make every moment count because there's no better time than now griegous make time wait sip responsibly like other cutscenes can come in and out side quest what about you how did it go for you um the first two days was not good for me like i couldn't

didn't even focus on content like because my TVU just wasn't working the hdmi i was telling you a little about the gym but the htmy port completely fried like sometimes it would work and then randomly like it wouldn't work and i'm getting calls like and like streaming is like everything's live like it's not like youtube where we can just cut and like i can you know get everything back together and then you know reshoot it's like i have to like stay in like a good mood and like high energy even when like my not working And like I just spent so much money on everything for it to not work. It just shot my mental like the first two days. Like I just wasn't like performing at all.

And I knew I wasn't. I kind of crashed out on one of my guys that night because he was like texting me like, bro, like, you know, keep her head up and all that. And I was like, bro, like, how the fuck am I supposed to like entertain? Like I spent so much money on to work and like it's not. Like. But then shout out to Jason the Wien's like like main guy, Wojj. He didn't have anything to do for Jason.

Like everything was going smooth. for him. He comes up to me out of like the kindness of his heart. He's like let me see your TV you. Let me see if I can fix it. He spends like two hours on it. He finds like a way like to connect this and have this connected to this screw this and there.

And I was able to like like fully like use my TVU. Plus like two modems on my TV you weren't even on. He turned those on too. So I was getting better internet plus like the video was working. Then that's like when I started like like I was like it was like a big relief. I was like

fine, I can like start to like make content. I don't have to, like, I don't have to worry about. Like I just got to be me. Then that's when I started going out, getting clips. Like I'm more like, I like to troll. Like I also do girl content too, but like, I like, I really like to like troll people. Like I'll walk up to someone like, like there's just one clip clip. Like I'll like sometimes I'll just like walk up to people even if I don't know them.

And I'll just walk and like just like listen to their conversation. I'll just see like if there's like a way I can get in and like there's just one really viral clip. I walked up to DDG talking to someone. and like some dude walks up behind him with a gun and starts shooting it and like DG flinches and like I didn't flinch I was just standing there and I looked at him I was like you're not used to gunshots and like everyone was like what the

and I was like no no no like because I didn't flinch like like that blew up and like like I just like farm I was just like I don't know I just like farm clips like I just like like being a troll and I just like I like trolling people and then also like you saw like me and Sarah like if there was an opportunity to like do like girl content. I knew like because I also came from that too. I was like I'm going to farm it.

But like with Sarah like it wasn't like girl content. I genuinely just like as like a friend like just being around her is like she's one of like the coolest people I like never. She's a dude. She's a cool ass human being. Maybe take her on a date. I don't know, bro. I'm going to be honest. I don't even want to like take her out on a date. I genuinely just like love to stay friends with her like the rest of my life. Like generally she's like awesome. She's like awesome. She's a good person. Yeah. For sure. I've known. of her time. One thought of like she was amazing.

Yeah. And me and her like our chemistry just went together so well like her trolling me, me trolling her like. Did you see the clip of Valkyrie talking about? Yeah. Did you see that? Oh, she did. I did see that.

I don't know if it was a diss. Because like she said she flirts with everyone she can talk. There was a little bit of Sarah for everyone. I said. Yeah. There was. But like Valky Ray like love you Sarah. I don't think she's a type of like I don't think she meant it in a diss way.

I don't know, but I mean... That should sound like it does. In the clip, it did, but... In the clip, it did, yeah. But, like, I feel like if you watch more of it, because I saw some of the comments somewhere like, like, she didn't mean it in this way, like, if you watch more, blah, blah, blah, whatever,

but, yeah, I saw that clip. That was funny. I don't know if I sent it to her, but... Yeah, I met Sarah there, and we, like, just, like, kicked it off, like, right away. Why, you laugh? It's just so funny. He was, like, wing-maned me a couple times.

I was funny. He was funny. Rang manned her with everyone. How many guys You, Braden, Phantom I think it's it Those were like the big three right Yeah

Yeah I didn't raise Sarah But she They know each other They know each other Yeah it was more of a joke with them Because there's a whole joke where She was like I set them up

To do a gym stream And he hit her up And she agreed to do it And then she just faded him Like four times Yeah It's a while ago But yeah

I think I remember that You're telling you about that We're supposed to go rock climbing We're supposed to hit a gym It's all like a while ago It's probably like four or five months ago four months ago

yeah it's just like sometimes she just yeah she gets busy just yeah oh no no yeah no I just be trolling her for it yeah I don't care you're like yeah I'm busy too anyways did you see the clip of because one of the most viral things

was the whole black boy max and the whole like yeah I was reacting to it today on stream actually yeah what what what was your take on that you guys could go one by one whatever do you know the other guy's name oh j

I don't. I apologize. OJ. As a streamer and being live for 24-7, which Max was, and I was live 24-7, and Connor was live 24-7, like, we slept on the stream. Like, you get mad tired. And, like, I don't know how, like, what mental state Max was in also. But the way he was coming at him, like, it didn't even, like, it sounded like he was

clip farming, but he was just being, like, a dick, bro, like, to Max. Like, he was just judging him so crazy. I don't know. If, like, someone came up to me, like, and I don't know how Max is. Like, you don't know how people's, how they are off. camera, like what they're going through, like in their life and like how, like how they feel. And he was just judging him. And he did it on stream in front of, imagine having 80,000 viewers and like get impressed while

you're already mad, tired and like about something like that. I could just feel for Max about just like not with OJ in the moment. And I don't know. I think you shouldn't be judging anyone like regardless enough to press them and tell them to change. I think especially for appearance, like, that's just something you should never come at someone for someone wants to dress a certain way or look a certain way they should do it and i think that's their way of expressing themselves and that's where i i personally didn't agree with like him

saying those things and that's where i would understand i think you're right you don't know what kind of mental stay here and if someone was coming at me about something about something that means a lot to me or i was like exhausted at some points of that was he was he was he was alumni that guy yeah he was so that guy came in there like fresh like that was he just got there that day that guy who pressed So it was the people that got into streamer you and then the people that were in streamer you last year Only a select few were able to come back for one day So that one day he came back he hasn't been streaming 24 hours like us all that So like he came back and just like he was I saw a clip of him like on like Ray like he was like he was talking shit to everyone

He was like he was like you can make like you know like jokes like racist jokes to your friends and stuff like but he was like just straight up just like going crazy I was like he was trying to clip for him he was trying like I think he was just trying to wait Also, like, it depends, like, how close you are with someone. Yeah. Like, if I troll Connor about some shit that I know I can, like, push his boundaries with. But, like, I don't know how close they are. But it obviously didn't seem like they were close enough for him to, like, even if he was trolling, like, the way it was, is like, it didn't seem like they were close. Yeah.

For him to be saying, like, talking like that. Like, even then, I would kind of feel some type of way. Like, if you were, like, bashing me on something. He was just, like, two minutes straight, just, like, looking down on him just like, this, this, you ain't a, what do you ain't a, what do you know? No. He was saying like you're like, he was saying like some devil shit, right? Yeah, he was, yeah, like just because of how Max wants to dress and stuff like that. He's like, he's like, you sold your soul or something.

Like, bro, like let him wear whatever. Yeah, I've only had one person ever come up to me while streaming and like come at me. Oh, that was at a, uh, yeah. Yeah, you were there. Yeah, because I met, I saw you right after and I was live and you were like tight. Bro, it was really cool because like him, Brad, like, they all wanted to like fight this guy for me. What was that? It was in Vegas at the, uh, he was in Vegas.

He just wanted to like tear me down. And like, I feel like when you get to a point, like, we're all here to stream. We're all here to do content. When you really want to tear someone down, it's not jokes anymore. It's like, what's the point of that? What was he coming at you for there? Just every, he tried to like come at every point of my entire career. And like, he was like prepared and had a point that he wanted to make it.

And I'm like, bro, like, I'm just, I do this because I love it. Like, I'm not like, there's no negativity here. And you're just bringing negativity to like a positive environment. It was just. Yeah. There is the side, though, that to, on the other side of this, like, you are live. You are putting. yourself out there. And you are, you know, you're going to be criticized. Again, obviously in this

setting, it's a little more intimate because like people are all there for a reason like for this. But coming from someone else that's like in the same situation you are is a little bit like, you know, why are you doing this? But at the end of the day, like you are going to get criticized for everything. Yeah. And I think that's the hardest thing. Like we were talking earlier in a kitchen, I think before you had come about just making content in general and why streaming is like probably the hardest thing to do is because the duration of which you have to be on camera, most times to be successful streamers probably like, what, four to eight hours on average live, like communicating, talking, interacting with the chat.

And you put yourself in a position to like be really criticized. And so like stuff like that, it's almost like he probably that guy probably had seen criticisms of Max previously. He came in with that intent. like I'm going to bring up this thing that I know people are talking about to get a clip. Yeah. It went viral before. So it's exactly.

That's exactly. Yeah. Like the hair thing, whatever the he's doing. Like someone is like they're, you know, talking on. I mean, Max had a, you know, a clip on Instagram that went crazy viral because he had like the hair on or whatever. Yeah. But it was for that soccer game, right?

Or something? Because I think I saw like a BTS thing of that. Yeah. He was wearing that. I forgot what soccer team he was supporting. Norway. It's Norway. It's a Holland guy.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he went there, he watched party, that was cool, yeah, but people are just so quick to judge. Yeah, I guess you have to be ready for it, but like, I guess that kind of content is just isn't me. Yeah. As far as far as, as, like, critical. I mean, that's just weird.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if Max is also like lit or, like, drunk or like, it was nighttime. We were about to go. We were about to go to the club, too. So he probably was like, he might have been more emotional at the moment, too. That was the night of the party? Yeah, it was right before we went before we loaded the buses.

Yeah. So it was right before we were going on the buses to the party. Like, then he just didn't go. That was the most stressful night. Did any of you guys see that in person? I left like right before. Yeah. So I didn't even see it.

What was the biggest highlight for each of you? I think for me it was the party. That was the most stressful. You went to a club. We went to a bar, but like setting this up all week, like I had to deal all week with the police wanting to shut it down, moving locations, being accessible from the school, having, like, figuring out how the buses are there. And I'm working with different people who are behind the scenes. And I don't even know what kind of.

knows and doesn't know. I don't even know if he fully knows because when I went into this this week, Kai and I never talked about anything. He's just like, Nick, I trust you. Do your thing. And I was like, okay. I'm hitting an assistant like, like, does there anything you guys want me to do? Is there a vision you want me to meet? Like, no, do your thing. I'm like, all right, let's do this. And I flew my whole team out. I put him in an Airbnb, got him in contact with the bar that is being put at and they're getting everything ready. And every single person on campus is coming to me. being like, I want to do a keg stand. I want to do a keg stand. Well, no one knows that this is a dry county. You can't even buy alcohol unless you go 20 minutes out. So I'm figuring out how to get

kegs there, wine there, beer there. The kegs get denied the night of the party when we get there. Eventually when we get there, I was having everyone drink out of a wine bag and they take that from me too. But the biggest stress was like, and it's live. That's like the big night. I'm not going to lie. Like every single person on campus all day long morning tonight, when's the party happening, Nick? when's the party happening? I don't want to say because I don't want Kai to know and I want to do my job here at streamer U. So every day, I'm like, okay, everyone's waiting for this party and I can't let them down. I'm like, what if it doesn't happen? What if something goes wrong and it gets canceled? Even when it gets to the night of and I have everyone outside waiting to go for the

buses and the buses aren't showing up and then 10 minutes goes by. They're supposed to be there already 20 minutes, 30 minutes. I'm watching my chat go from 1,000 viewers to 3,000 viewers to 4,000 viewers. Everyone wants to see me pull off this party. And then finally, I get a new location and the bus has come. By the time we got on the bus is there's 8,000 people in my Twitch. And I don't even know if we're going to be able to get in when we get to this party. What I'm hearing is that the police department want any reason to shut down this party when we get there. And if we bring one underage person, if we do one thing too crazy or wrong, they're coming in and it's just not happening. And I knew this was such a big moment.

I had to, the thing that was hard, I think it was hard is that I had to tell everyone under 21 that they couldn't come. It was hard to like, these like streamers who were so passionate and so excited. I didn't even know we're under 21. Telling them, I'm sorry, you can't come or the whole thing's off.

Well, that's obvious. You can't. You can't, you can't. But originally everyone was going to be able to go because the original location was a barn. But we weren't like, there's so many rules and regulations that had to move to a bar.

But when we got there, luckily no one was under 21. No one did anything crazy. We got in. I looked at my phone and I had 11,000 people. It was crazy. Yeah, it was insane. And everyone loved it. That was the most I've ever had.

I mean, actually when Kai announced me, I had 20,000, but that was for like two minutes. Yeah. But yeah, that was the most like holding that, like for a long time. And it all went well. Everyone had such a great time. And that was, that's just what I wanted to provide, I think, was like an event that everyone was going to have such a fun time.

And then it worked out. It was good. Told you not to worry. Now, you were crazy stressed out. I would have been too, though. Like, yo, I couldn't even... If I was in your shoes, I would have been tweaking. Well, that's all you were there for.

Yeah. I mean, I think that's like, yeah, that's why... It's why Kai really wanted me there. And then what he told me before was like, hey, this is why you're coming. But like, if you really make the most of everything at streamer you, it's really going to help your streaming career. And through the whole time, I just...

The most I've ever streamed before this is probably four hours in a row. So I went from four hours in a row. to 12 hours a day. And I just went in there and honestly, like Lacey calling beforehand, he's like, don't worry, Nick. Like, we're all going to back you up.

Like, and, uh, everyone did. I'm really thankful for all the streamers there. Like, they, they embraced me. And if it's being a streamer. Yeah. It was really cool. What, uh, so, so now is, for you specifically, for, as it pertains to streaming, like,

are you going to make it more of your consistent thing? Yeah. I mean, I think I would be insane not to. And even like, Kai being, and like you have to continue after, like if you want to do this. Like, I'm stream today. I've streams planned every single day. I'm going to, I'm going to go all in.

And my goal is to make it to streamer U 2027 in Europe. Yeah, Europe. Yeah. I would love to do a frat party or any sort of party out in Europe because I have a European fan base as well. And all they want is like, they've never experienced the type of parties we have here. An American party is what I always get all the time.

I want to experience an American party, American house party. And I think bringing that to Europe would be, Yeah, it'd be dope. Yeah. It'd be dope. Yeah, I'm going to continue on. I'm still going to do YouTube. My goal is to do two to three videos a month.

And I really want to use this time. To be honest, like, I don't want to like just cut out the girl content. Like, if it's authentic and great and awesome, sure. But I think there's like, this is a new opportunity to me. It's almost like a restart of I can show my personality in different ways. And then kind of do YouTube as more of like, like this week's video I'm dropping. We go to El Salvador. On stream, I met this.

kid crying outside of a World Cup games. He couldn't get in. And he raised this money to get there and bring his family there. And the brand I was working with gave me two extra tickets. I ended up bringing him and his mom in. Kid was so great, amazing. That was the Spain game, right? Yeah, it was a Spain game.

So on YouTube, which drops this Sunday, we went to El Salvador, surprised his family with some money and then did a bunch of like different traditions in their culture and then went out in El Salvador. I feel like that's definitely like a route I'd want to go on YouTube where I can like on streaming I can do everything that I want to do like I love I love people I love talking to people I can leave it for stream. These big creative like storyline ideas would be great on YouTube. What do you guys find besides the money obviously because everyone makes decent money I think

streaming at some point right not in the beginning but what do you find most rewarding about making content? The reason I started I love making people laugh like like and I know like a lot lot of people say that but like I just like the fact that like someone could like work hard like yeah work eight hours like being yelled at their boss and then come home and like they open up my stream like like like literal chats that'll make me tear up or like bro like I had a really bad day at work it's kind of making me emotional a little bit I really had a bad day at work man like like like my life just hasn't been good but like I always can count on opening up your streams

and like you just like make me feel so much better like that means more to me than like any money I make on, like my, like when people are like, yo, what are your most successful streams? Like I'll look at like like, like, okay, like how good was my content that day? And like like the feedback I get from my community, like opening up my discord like this was cinema. Like, oh my gosh, best stream. Like that's what makes me feel good. And like, yeah, that that's what I would say.

What do you think that comes from for you? Why do you think that's important? I don't know. I've always been like that my whole life. Like I just like to make people happy. I just like to like Like I've always been like I'm very like giving too like I don't know I'm just very like

And I think it comes from my mom like Because I was mostly raised by my mom I wasn't really like once my parents got divorced And I was 13 so I didn't have a dad like going through like high school Which like I feel like every high school Like you need like a father like Because like that's when you're going through puberty

And like your hormones and everything And like I didn't have that But like I always had my mom and she just always was like, show me compassion and, like, would, like, like, motherly, like, love on me and, like, like, like,

was just always there for me. And I feel like, that's, like, what made me, like, the man I am today. And, like, I just, like, I like to show that through my streams, too. Like,

and, like, for the people that even work with me, like, any way I can, like, help, like, because I don't really make that much, but, like, for example, I won $10,000, like, Mr. Beast challenge at Streamer You, like, I found a duffel bag.

Like, I'm going to give, like, my editors both a thousand dollar bonus. and then my camera and I'm going to give him $2,000 because he was like grinding, like dripping sweat, like in pain, like bodies hurting. Like I just like love to be able to give back. So I feel like it comes from how I was raised,

honestly. And that's why I'm very thankful for my mom. And that's what it was really hard for me to move out too. I always get made fun of like by like other streamers that are like my friends and like, you know, people around me like bro, like you're 24. Like just move out.

Like, but it's like, it's not about moving out. It wasn't about like, like, oh, I don't want to move out. I'm scared. It was more like, like, I just felt so bad. Like, I left my mom and nana. Like, they live alone now.

But like, I do live an hour and a half away. But like, this, like, job is like so, like, if I'm not streaming, I'm, I'm thinking of content. If I'm not thinking of content, like, I'm planning shit. I'm talking to my team. Like, it's not just like, oh, like start stream, end stream. Okay, I'm done. I can go do whatever.

Like, every day, like, I'm always, like, I'm always busy. And like, that was probably the hardest part of me moving out was me leaving my family. Well, this would be a good question for you then. The classic streamer question about nine to five because you said like what did you do previously you said? I worked construction. Instruction. That's why I feel like I can talk on this.

Like I like, what's harder? Physically construction mentally by like a thousand miles streaming. And I would say like if you compare like construction versus streaming, I would say streaming is like three times harder. Because like people will look at it. streaming and be like, bro, all you do is click star and like you make money. Okay, why don't you go do it? Like, you're not going to make money.

Like, to get to where I'm at, like, good luck. Like, you're going to have to be consistent. You're going to have to edit every single day, like edit your own clips like Brayden did and like I did too. And I did too. And you, I really did. You too? He was a editor.

Yeah. Oh, you started off as an editor? He was a number of camera. He was Steve Will Doits editor. But I think a big thing of starting all this is doing. all of the pieces. Like when I first started doing, like I was on a different channel

and I had no name just being on the channel. I would edit all my own clips too. But I think, dude, I resonate with everything you said from like the happiness, giving back, the family stuff. This is actually awesome. This is why I like you so much,

I think. Love this makes sense. But yeah, I think it's that full grind. I think that the most important thing for a streamer that's so tough that a lot of, that I meet so many people

that like you have to learn. Everything's learning. I think anyone can learn it. It's so are you willing to. But is that very, vision of it because like on the streaming side every time I'm around it I learn a little bit more of having a better vision of how to stream and maybe it's because I'm so fortunate streamer you and being around other people who are doing it but I think if you have the vision that's what's the key to like the storyline the the people skills the how to create this this situation to the next situation it's not easy yeah I think it's all repetition

I didn't even say it but when I first started growing I did a hundred day straight on Twitch I started at like 20 viewers. By the end, I had like four, five, six hundred viewers. It's like, and it's all like the repetitions. Like, if I were to just watch a million YouTube videos on like Kays and that and studied, but I never went live and put that for it. It's like you got to physically like learn what's right, like what works and what doesn't by failure.

Like you literally got to post a clip and have it do 10 views after editing it for like two hours. Like you got to go live with a concept you think is a banger and then you have 10 views and be like, I'm like, fuck. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So when you, I was making my, I made myself stream. 100 days straight last year and I looked at my stats because it was like a year ago from like last month

and I had a I don't even know I like 3,000 followers and I and I had like 20 subs and like I don't even know yeah it was it was ass though but I did the 100 days and throughout every day it was like bad bad bad this day would be better this day would be worse and then like by the end or like a year later like when I looked at it I gained like 300K and or like 250K and like I figured out like what works and what does it just from failing.

But the real question is because that's an obvious point. You're not wrong at all. You're completely right. The real question is and most people have this problem is they know what they have to do but they don't do it.

So the real question is what behind that is actually driving you? Like the kind of the question I and how he sort of answered it. Yeah. Like what is the thing that's actually pushing you to do it. Like, why do you actually care about doing it?

And it can't be, and I've learned this over my career of doing this for so many years, it can't only be money. Like there has to be something else in your mind, in your psyche. Any of its money. But a lot of people, and I'm only saying it's a preface because a lot of people

will hit me up and it's like they want the popularity or they want the money. I feel like those are the people that won't make it in this, though. You're right. Everyone that I'm surrounded by, that I know everyone has, like, we have such a passion for it. All the people who want money, they're not willing to stay up after they stream for six hours and talk about everything.

Me and me and Braden, we'll take hours or we'll take a lot of time to talk and reflect and come to each other about what we're having issues with. And then we'll go on our own and I'm sure you do the same thing and figure it out. But I know people who come to me, you think if I start streaming? I see you start streaming. Like, well, I make a lot of money. Will that like help my career? I'm like, bro, like, you got to really want to do it. Like for me right now, like my next step in stream, I'm thinking like if I really want to do this, I have to be really passionate about figuring out desktop. I'm so comfortable doing IRL.

But Braden will always be like, yo, like desktop, figure it out. We can do desktop. Yeah, I love to. Do you? Yeah. You have a live channel or no? I do. You do?

Yeah. Any stream, like, any stream you do, you should like, any stream you do, you should like try to have like one segment on that stream that you can post on your live channel. Yeah, you post his last channel. I do the live channel. I post, yeah. Like, that sounds pretty good. Same thing as Braden, like over streamer, you like post it on there. Same with the clipping shit.

But, you know what I really am having? I think this is something as who I am. I'm really good, like, talking and being person, doing the storyline. And I'm passionate about creating this, the moments. But what I've always noticed my whole life is I've never wanted to give time to the technical part, which I give so many streamers credit. The next thing I want to learn is like, today was my first day. Like, I want to do this myself.

of like, you know, it's my first reaction stream today. And I had Braden, I'm like, Braden help me. And I'm like figuring out all like the buttons and everything to like, you know, show the screen and react to it. But like, I need to figure out the technical side. Yeah. I think it's a really important part of it is being able to just. Like knowing how to run this stuff yourself.

Yes. Oh yeah. You should have seen him when he first started. I was always a huge nerd. I set all this up. Yeah, that's amazing just because I'm a nerd. Wendy's 99 cent Frosty is back. and Frosty farmers couldn't be happier.

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There was one time, like, he, we FaceTime each other, and, like, I had to show him how to use Discord right or something. Like, it was something, like, so easy. But he picked it up very quick. Like, I think after a week. You got it down. I'd break up with Lana online and then I'll leak my screen of her texting me. I remember this.

I'm bringing honey packs over. Let's, yeah, it would be crazy. And that show would go viral. I'm like, like, I'm a dumb ass. Like,

I just leak my. That, that, that, her text to you that? Yeah, she, like,

so once I was like, like, me and Lana, we actually got like a crazy argument and like, like, we took a little, like, little break.

But then I was like, oh, online, I'm gonna say we're not dating no more. And then like a week later, bro, I was screenshot my phone on TikTok I swipe out It goes to me in Lana's text messages

She goes I'm coming over with honey packs And they got It got screenshotsed and it went viral Why? Yeah, why are you taking honey packs? Do you feel? I've never taken honey packs Is that like a big

Yeah Is it different? What do we what? Wait, why I talk about the honey bags shit? Yeah I just talk about leaking my shit I know Wait, but wait

Why are you confused about honey packs Well, I've never taken any of that It's basically It's basically Sialis Is that it gets you harder? Yeah, so you know how you need smoke weed to last that second round you take a honey pack you'll keep going

yeah it don't go soft oh oh my god so I'm gonna I'm gonna and if you drunk if you drunk and you're drunk if you drunk and yo dick not getting hard you take a honey bag your shit get bricked up how long does I take the kick in yeah blue chew honey pack how long take you to kick in by like 25 minutes

30 minutes wow yeah it's true so like this is hell it's okay to have this for your health I'm gonna have it all the time I would just take some Cialis That's okay for your heart. Or Bluetooth. A bluech will probably better.

And Blue chris will make it way harder. Is that okay for your heart? Yeah. As for him, right? Yeah. I mean, obviously you don't want to overdo anything that's like a vaso dilator, but it's, it increases blood flow. And typically, like, Cialis was used for blood pressure medication.

I might have found a hack here. There's a lot of benefits to it. Don't people use Seattle. Like, what's that thing that people use in the gym? Is that? Yeah, that's it. Same thing. Oh.

Because his fridge got mass Cialis in a economy. We missed it, yeah. Allsy hell is. It's not for the gym. He got a whole shelf for that shit in his. No, no, no, no. Yeah, man, weeds like the, my, that's how I go round. No, no, no, just take a blue chow.

Wow, this is going to be way better the next morning. You know what? Both. Oh, my God. You guys are a different problem. Then you're going to have an addiction. Dude, I'm getting put on game by the young guys right now. Yo, if Blucho wants to give me a sponsor, bro, yo.

I can send me up for you. This should be a second part. I can say you up with road too. There are 100% hit you up after this. I'm not going to lie. If I get a Bluetooth sponsor, bro, I'll eat that shit on stream every day. Dude, that's, I can get that done for you easy. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I didn't know you want to do that. I could too. That shit lit. Wait, it's a little pill. Bro, this is such a blue. This is not sponsored, by the way, but this is going to go ahead.

Get your bag. I don't care. Yeah, just make your shit. Hella brick. Oh, bro. I bet he'd get a fat blue chew. Yeah. Oh, especially the content.

Bro, the way that he's speaking about this. Yeah, you're like so covered. I never talk about it. You already made them money. They're going to pay you money. For sure. They'll let me up. Yeah, they probably will.

But no, blue choose, yeah. I mean, it's Seattle, it's the act. If that's the thing that's like for, for nothing like that. For palms, you know, for,

you know, dick health, whatever. I've never had a problem, like, I don't have a problem getting it up. It's like, I just want to go more rounds.

But now, but weed's been my keys. Wait, so I've, that bad as is. I've had sex in, like, probably six months.

I'm going to, I'm like going to celebrate that. I'm going to wait to like it's amazing. But like I never had a problem with like getting it up. Like the most rounds I went one time was like five. But like the fifth. Oh, shit. No, I swear to God. The five.

Yeah, five. You tell me five nuts. On my mother's heart. And how long? In a span of like three hours. Whoa. Oh, you're lucky.

Legend. Yeah. Three hours too much. Blanks, bro. I don't need come nut. No. No. No.

No. So like the first, the first two times like bang and then five minutes later. bang and then I'm like five minutes yeah but then the third round I had a recharge after sometimes the first round goes fast oh no the first okay the first round I know like 10 seconds every time I swear I'm one of those

I can't relate to that no yeah but five is very impressive yeah but you got a hell of nut in your balls yeah I don't know it's my like Assyrian genetics or something I don't know how this turned from talking about sexes but on the real it is no people love talking about I don't really have that.

I really don't, I don't know about you guys. Well, I know about Braden, but he has a girl. I don't really have a crazy sex life. It's just, when it happens,

it happens, but I feel like there's no time. Like there's, like when you stream, yo, I don't be that much anymore. There's just no time. Well,

because we don't have girlfriends. Like, we don't have to talk to that and take him out. Tired or traveling. Bro, when you stream this much and everyone has,

you know, has their other own content they're doing too. I have YouTube. You guys have other stuff. Everyone has business. When do, Like, when is there time to, like, go on a date or like,

what, bro? You chill with Izzy all the time, bro. Who's Izzy? Yeah, who's Izzy? His assistant. It's my nothing. Oh, I knew it, bro. No.

I knew it. Wasn't there like, before she worked for me? We've never done anything more than that kiss. I swear to God on my life. We are just friends. And you can't be putting this out there because she meets everyone I meet. So, like, if there's a girl, but they're going to feel weird about that.

But no, we're just friends. You're not saying that, bro. I'm not buying. He likes to do that as soon as he has the opportunities. Dude, he does that with me. You're going, you're a dickhead, bro. You're a little dickhead. You all do that shit too.

We do it because you do it. At streamer, you? I'd be like, they're like, I'll meet people and I'll be like, oh yeah, like my roommate is Brandon, we live together. Every single person, when I told him, Brayden live with me,

I'd be like, what? And I'm like, what do you mean? You and Brayden live together? People think he lives with me. Because we do a lot of like streams together, but I'm like not. But it's because he's a little dickhead. They wouldn't expect that. But I never sleep at her group.

Huh? Yeah, you don't. You never sleep at her crib? No, he never sleeps at our crib. Oh, I was going to sit there. I've never sat down her crib once. Yeah, he finds a different girl to sleep with it right night. I know.

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. It's too far. That's crazy. Just one girl. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. One girl, one girl. Yeah, that's crazy. You already has enough problems going from with that right now. Yeah, bro. Are you still fixing your problems or are they good? No, yeah, I'm still working on it, bro. Dude, oh my gosh.

Girl problems is like, dude, that's like the, I'm so glad I don't have to worry about that, like stress. Like, I can just focus on stream and shit. Bro, imagine having a girlfriend and then having to do what you had to do at Streamer you? I've had girlfriends being in content and I've taken it off the internet, been on the internet. Yeah.

I'm so thankful right now. Just to focus on this. Yeah. Have you ever had any relationship? I've had relationships, never on the internet. Never on the internet? Never. But it's still stressful behind the scenes.

Oh, the whole thing is stressful. Yeah. I mean, making content, getting like attention, all that stuff just affects, you know, everything. Yeah. It also affects who you are when you're doing your work. Like you want to be yourself when you're doing your work. You want to be able to flow and be fun and not have to watch what you say. It really.

No, I don't watch what I say that much. Not even just risen. Like, it's just like, oh, did that come off as I was friend with a girl? Oh, is this, this girl's coming up to me? Do I need to avoid her? Like, there's these people. I can't go out with it. Maybe just be celibate like him.

I'm not, I'm not going to date anybody. I'm, I really, bro, I really am. I don't really look. Because,

yo, celibate means you don't, it don't mean you don't, like, like, like, you know, like,

nothing. Before marriage. Yeah, nothing sexual with women. Like, technically, if I get, like,

head from a girl, I'm not celibate. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm celibating away like, I'm not going to have sex. I don't want to have to do it.

So you're talking to Sarah Safari you're not celibate no more. Wait, does it go then? No. No, I don't. I mean, okay.

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not celibate. No, you can be friends with her. You just don't do anything sexually. No, celibate,

it's like sexual. Yeah, I think anything sexual. What about fingering? That's, that's sexual, Britain. You're retarded?

22 year old. I, I, I like, I thought it was just. I actually, honestly, I thought it was just having sex,

too. Then someone told me, like, no, it's like anything like sexual with like exactly, bro. I'm like, oh, fuck. Then like technically I'm not going to be celibate. That's why at BYU, they kick the bed. What's that mean? What does that mean? What? He's talking about the

Mormons. Yeah, so like instead of, they can't, they got to be celibate. He's talking about soaking. They lay on the bed and they have a girl on top and they start kicking the bed so they're for them. No. So they're not doing the movement. So I don't count. You're just, you're in the girl, but you just. I've never done this, but someone underneath just kicks the bed so it's, They do your strokes for you.

This is a real thing. That's a way. You're not trolling. So if you want to stay celibate and you want to crack some shit, I got you. You want to know what's really funny? You got him? You'll be there. You got me?

I'll be under the bag kicking this. He's got you. That's a wing man. Yeah. You want to know what's really funny is we're probably three dudes who've done a lot of girl content, but none of us that many girls are. Yeah. I have three bodies.

How many bodies do you have? I'm 26, but I'm older too. What? How do you know that? You're a whole. How many buddies? You got. brother.

4,000. Can I guess? Can you say over under? I'm not even in this. No, I said it. Around 4,000. Seriously? It's around 4,000.

No, no, no. I'm kidding. I don't know. No, I don't even, I don't even do that, man. You got a hell of Seattle. Yeah, don't you have a full frame of Seattle? You don't.

You only work out no more, bro. I never see that zoo. Bro, I'm working out every day. You're just cracking shit, bro. No, no, no, no, no. No, dude, that's just distraction. I like to stay focused. Yeah.

It is distraction, bro. It really is. What besides girls, what do you guys think is the biggest distraction? Weed. Weed, why do you smoke weed so much? I don't, I've kind of cut it out for the past couple weeks. But I think I smoked weed because I get stressed out with nonstop going. And I think at the end of the day, it just kind of loosens me up.

But I had to cut it out because I just want to sleep in all day if I smoke weed. That was a distraction for me. Yeah. Like I'm missing my. workouts in the morning and then I as soon as I get up I'm like I have to go right into the content I'm groggy and that's like kind of like why I cut it out yeah why you were trying meditating I know I really need to do that everyone's been telling me to try meditating yeah I don't know how to do that you just sit there and go I use your ice bath ice baths dude I love like taking cold showers

or like ice baths and then like just like just sitting and just like chilling out because like that feeling after an ice bath is such like a good feeling then you just go sit in the sun you goosebumps and it's like chill we're getting a multiple person ice bath at our house you should come over and we do group ice baths a bro ice bath. Dude they offered us a 14 person ice bath I don't think we need that that's a big

circle right yeah that's OD how many people that'd be good for content though you could do like games and shit in there oh dude you could like do like a thing like you could set up an event like challenges and one of the challenges be like who can stay in here the longest 24 hour ice bath no no no you'll die you'll die you

You know is like, what, 30 minutes? And then after that? You could do longer. 30, more than 30 minutes? Oh, I'd be worried about my phone. You could do longer, but not 24. That's, dude, you would die. Bram, Brad Crowell, that says, next challenge.

You got to do it. Bro, he's insane. He's sad. He's bad. He's crazy, bro. He's got to be the craziest streamer. This intensity-wise. I think he just,

if he just keeps doing his big challenges once a month, that's going to take him very far. Is he consistent? Yeah. Bro, I'm up my f*** streams every day. Like, Brad Crow? Yeah. Not when he's in Philly.

Yeah, the last two months, he's just been at home. But he locks in when he does. I think if he finds a better way to storyline and understand how Twitch works with that, with the hard, the work ethic that he has, he'll blow up. Like, blow up big on Twitch. I've no doubt that Brad's going to be big.

100%. I think, dude, what Brad needs to do, this is what I really think Brad needs to do. I'm, I need to tell him this. I haven't seen him because we've all been traveling. because I've just learned this myself. When you go around and you're around these other streamer creators, bro,

I've learned so much from streamer you of just like taking in how it all operates and goes. I feel like if he, like he said, if he figures out like the vision of it for him, I think he'll just go and do it once it hits him. But how do you really figure that out? Like, because it has to be a personal thing.

I think it's what he said repetition and just doing it and being around it. Finding something that works. That's, I was consistent. I found something that worked. And then I was, once I found one thing that worked, I just started going crazy at it, and that's when I saw the most success.

It's like when something works, you got to, like, really look at him. Like, why did it work? Or why did I have more viewers doing this? You could do the same thing twice. And one time you could have a thousand more viewers than the other time. It's like, why did I have more viewers that time? Or why did this clip go more viral if it was, like, identical to this one? Like, was it because of the lore?

Was it because of how it made people feel? Like, there's, like, way, like, more little in-depth things about clips and the way people react. And then eventually when you get big enough, it's just like your face can make something go viral. But like getting from that small to like medium, big tiers, like super hard. But so it's like kind of studying the tape. It's studying the game. It's dead asses.

It's reps. So what do you look for specifically? Like how are you like if you were to make a piece of viral content in your mind, what does it look like? How does that clip go? Well, it's like right now I've already built up a lore in like community with like what my content usually is and I know it works for me. I've expanded my content to doing stuff with guys and doing stuff that's entertaining. And like, of course, viral clips always help like bring in retention.

and like YouTube videos and stuff. It's like everything plays a factor. But I've like, I've mastered like the girl content to a point where it's like if I know how to make people like want to watch or be intrigued in my life and like what's going on. Because people got to want to watch you. And it's like a big storyline thing. And Nick taught me a lot of like storytelling in different aspects of your life.

You could have different storylines with if you're getting kicked out or if you're homeless or if you're moving or if like you have this goal and you make your community know you have this goal. They're going to want to see it out. I think a great example. Sorry to cut you off. Great examples. We talk about a storyline all the time.

A great example is speed with Ronaldo. That was an overarching storyline that everyone was rooting for. And they could walk. Like he started out like I don't, people maybe from the outside don't know this, but he just started out going to soccer games just because he wanted to meet Ronaldo and learn it and be a part of it. No, he started out playing Fortnite and someone said who's your favorite player? He didn't even know shit about soccer. Yeah, yeah.

But the journey of that then. That's a now. That's a $2 donation. Like people say like, Like that changed his life. I wouldn't say that made him, but like that was like a bad donation and it blew up because he was like Cristiano Ronaldo suey and like it blew up everywhere. And then he probably saw that and like would think how we are. And like, okay, I'm going to make this a storyline.

What's next? I'm a big Ronaldo fan. I'm going to meet him one day, go to his games, you know, support him. And how fun is that? You start learning soccer. You're going to the games. You're getting in different cultures. And then that's an overarching big storyline.

and then okay here's another storyline maybe you're getting evicted from your house maybe you know there's a relationship maybe you have another goal of something else and people start watching these like big storylines and little storylines happen and then it's like learning how to portray that to your audience I could probably or like

you could kind of look at their content and name like multiple like types of content that they make that like grows them in certain aspects yeah like for I don't know like you could say it with like any big streamer really. How do you know when to pivot? I think it's like multiple factors.

Like if you enjoy doing the content still, the chat knows if it's still even hitting or going viral, like it might be time to like, say if it's not anymore, you've milked it out, you switch it up. You like, you just got to keep trying to.

That's why the biggest streamers are the ones who know how to adapt. Like, and literally when that content falls through and like their bread and butter stops working, like, I'm going to try this now. I'm going to do this with like,

I'm going to try this piece of content. and like do it until I make it work. But once you do it once, it's like not as hard to do it again as far as like growing up a storyline. Yeah. I think so a lot of the times creators know, like for me, like there was a, I feel like you know, but it's like sometimes I feel like you just have to keep going and going until that right thing comes and you act on that to pivot.

Like it's out of your control. Like something else, sometimes you can be trying hell of things, don't stuff at the wall, and nothing sticking and then like something like pops up. as long as you're actively trying to pivot while still like not just dumping what you're what hits for you yeah it's gonna come that's how i got out of balance i kept playing that game every day and i didn't like it and like i was just like if i can build a storyline with a girl i can get out of this game and that's when that one girl followed me on twitter i built a storyline with her and then like i my first ever rl stream averaged 3k viewers or like it was like a desktop

but it wasn't like gaming at all and like i went from average 2 to 300 viewers to 3,000 all from a storyline, like build up. Like people want us to meet. People want us to meet. People want us to meet. Okay, I'm flying out. Boom, this is the day. And like I'm posting YouTube, YouTube, TikTok, shorts, into all that.

Like my YouTube was like the best it's ever been. Like in a span of like three, four months, I got like 100,000 subscribers. And it was crazy. But I had a really good like storyline for me personally that like wasn't involving girls. because like the girls like I've kind of like I know how to like storyline it easy because I've done it like so many times with like drama and bringing other girls in and stuff like that but I got like hired to do like a fashion show or Miami swim week and I was like like I didn't I didn't know what I was going to do like I didn't want to show up and go live like I might have had a thousand views but um they said I had I needed a clean shave so then I went on live and I shaved my beard off and I looked chopped because I knew it was going to go viral so then it went mad viral and the next day I show up and I'm in Miami at the fashion show like I sparked early and they're like it was super ghetto like they wouldn't let me in I didn't even have my name on the list and like I was live the whole time and the chat was like hating on me like on me and then throughout like five six hours stream I finally get in I finally get the clothes on I finally practice my modeling walk and then it gets to the end of the stream and I'm walking doing a model walk and I got like 6k viewers and it went from like the day before having no lore about modeling and then then day after that I did another modeling walk and I had my glasses on and I threw it into the crowd and I hit a oh no no the death of that I woke up with my eye had a cut on my eye I almost the doctors so I was modeling and my eye was cut and I had like pink eye and it was like gushing and it was disgusting and I did I did a stream in the doctors with my eye f***ed up and then uh the whole stream was me and the doctors for like I did like a four hour stream in the doctors I had like two three thousand viewers just watching me because I'm like damn bro how can my life get worse I'm ugly my eyes cut like I'm chopped and like I like I'm chopped and like Like my fashion walk was ass.

And then the next day I had another fashion walk. And my eye was messed up. So I was wearing glasses. And I was in Miami. Like, you know, 11? Yeah. I was walking in 11. Like, like, like, you were streaming in 11?

Yeah. On the rooftop, Jazeel. It was a, it was for Miami swim week. Okay. And I threw my glasses in the crowd and I hit a girl in the face. Like a pedestrian, like eating food. And then that clip went viral. So then like, people like, bro, your life is ass.

Yeah. You were so scared. I shaved my beard. Then my eye got cut. Then I threw the glasses and I hit a girl. the face and then I don't even know what the last day was but I don't think something some other crazy happen uh the next last day so like it went from having no storyline about modeling to like i had a whole viral week that came from just like one like oh they booked me to walk in

Miami so it sounds like the main thing that makes people care about specifically streaming but also just content in general is there just being a storyline yeah it's just like it makes people like watch your life like they see your life grow and they like can root for you and And like a lot of it is real, too. Like, I didn't plan on cutting my eye. I didn't plan on hitting the girl in the face. And like, you can only plan so much. Some of it's out of your control.

But if you can have some sort of like guide, like, gonna happen randomly inside of it. But like if you have that guide, like the masses will like watch. And like if you have viral clips and via YouTube all feeding into it, like, you're gonna keep going crazy. Yeah.

And like what, streamer you, like suburb baby. He had like 40K followers and like 40, viewers averaging on Twitch. He went to the New York trialts, went viral, got kicked out. Then he went to the LA trialouts, went viral, got kicked out. Then he went to the Atlanta trialts. And he had the most viral clip ever of him telling Kaysana, I'm the dean now. And it did like millions and millions on Twitter and everything.

So the people were like hyped up to see if he got accepted. Then the day he got accepted, he was the 120 second pick, the last pick. He had 50K viewers on Twitch. So it's like a storyline. It's almost the best pick. So literally the last pick. He watched the whole thing. So he went from literally being like on Twitch, like 100 viewers or 80 viewers.

I don't know how much he had exactly, but like almost like a nobody on Twitch, even though he was a big content creator on Twitch like nothing to now having 50K viewers watching you react to the stream of you application to then getting in. And then when he got in, he was the number one most entertaining person on campus. So it's like that storyline in itself just blew him up to now today he was live with 60K viewers average like more than Kso, more than jinxie. Like just from a two-month storyline that went from him. It's insane.

If he never went to New York and tried out, if he never went to L.A., if he never went to Atlanta and then had that viral clip pressing Kai, none of this would happen. So like that storyline, people don't even realize it. That's the reason why he blew up so much. And I give him his flowers. Like, it was crazy. He might not even thought about that at first, but that blew that up. Maybe he did think about it.

But I did stream with him right before streamer you started. And he's like a super funny, genuine guy. like off camera too like she streamed with him previously did i streamed with him and we both had like a thousand viewers uh it was in houston he was teaching me how to be like gangster for a day it was funny but like a few days later fucking this is 100 000 200 000 he had 20 kest from me i remember seeing it 100 000 200 kish from you yeah that's crazy yeah because he he built lord with kai the dean who has the most motion ever and if you build lore with him and add him into your storyline bro, all his viewers are going to want to watch you.

Yeah. Bro. How do you maintain that? It's hard. It's hard. That's tough. Yeah. He's not going to maintain 200 or 100 or 60.

I think it will drop. But like, I think he's such an entertaining personality. Like he'll try out and figure out what works. And he's really big on other platforms. So I think he'll figure it out. And now that he has the connections like funny Mike and all these other big streamers like AMV. Yeah,

I've seen a funny ass skit of him and funny Mike kept pressing him. And he was like trying to fight him and he just kept thinking of reason. reasons why not to fight them. That's comedy. So like, you surround yourself with other big content creators who are already like ruling the app and you get yourself to that spot and you're networking and clapping with all of them, like, you're going to be good for a while. Sorry.

What would you say? Because I mean, historically, I've been hit up so much by people like, I want to come film content. I want to work out of zoo. Like, I want to do the whole content thing. A lot of people want to make content. But a lot of people, they'll come to you because like you have success. And it's almost as if they just like,

want success given to them. Bro, I was at DreamCon and a kid was like on my dick. Like, I was in line waiting and he like kept asking. He's like, bro, I want it so bad. I want so bad. And I just kept trying to give him advice. He's like, I already know that. I already know that.

I already know that. I'm like, I already know that. I'm like, what the fuck you doing? I was like, do you have an iPhone? He's like, yeah, I'm like, take it out. He's like, I have no service. I can't stream on it. I go then record.

Like, bro, you can always, there's always a solution to like something and asking for a handout from a bigger person. Like never unless you're like, and what's it was called anomaly? array or like automatically a big community for you like a genuine reason that's not like forced it's it you can't have it i was talking to my community community about this today i think it's completely the wrong thing to do to like ask someone yo can i can i can i get a shout out can can can i live with you can i can you do content and you can i get a collab streaming and youtube there are communities and if you do something great in the community it will recognize you

Streamers recognize other streamers and give people their flowers when they do something great. So I think the best thing to do is if you want to do something with someone is like, go do something amazing and stream and do content. And when you do something that's like meaningful, you'll know and people will want to work with you. Yeah. I think that's like the best way to do. And you also need a base, right? Like the thing that I'll have this conversation,

because I've had this conversation with so many people over the years, it's like even if I were to put someone in a video and be like, hey, here's this guy. if there's nothing for the people to go like also look at of them that they would also then relate to, it kind of just falls flat. So it's like you have to be in motion. Unless they're continuous characters. Actually,

sometimes, but those people usually aren't asking for collapse. Like I find random people that I think have great personalities and I'll put them in the videos or in the streams. Yeah, I've done it too. But that was a great bet. Yeah. And she,

but that was a great bet because she actually took advantage of it and was thankful for it and made something into it. But a lot of it. of people probably wouldn't but yeah but what's what I'm saying is like obviously you notice certain talent like you at this point you guys could probably all recognize people that you see like that you interact with you're like oh this person would probably be good at making content but no matter what it's like are they actively trying to do it without trying to grab a handout or without trying to get like you know to be a you someone as a stepping stone it's like you got to have something that people are going to then recognize you for to actually engage with you bro

I'm like perfect example like j shock he was at streamer you and he blew up crazy and like like him as a personality is like he's going to be so big and he already was he would do food reviews on ticot and had like millions of followers and that's what he was known for and I don't know how long he's been streaming for but like just him as a personality and getting accepted like the second he's on campus his personality and like the way people like people like like it attracts people like he's not going up to people asking can I be in the segment can I do this can I do that like people are coming up to him and he's just providing like his personality and like getting viral clips for all these other people what do you do you?

you think that is? How would you describe that? Like what? Like, what? Like, why, why, why were people going up to him? He's just funny. He, when he, he says a lot of genius things, bro. Yeah, he really does. And he has, I think another side to the J-shock, he's a deep side and he's able to open up and he's relatable and the things he says. And that's how, that's how I first met him there was, he kind of just opened up to me and I was like, damn, that was very relatable and very amazing to hear. And it makes you, it's like, there's a very genuine side to him. He's funny and he's genuine. Yeah, that's like rare. But like even another example like this, this kid named Bobby, when I was at streaming

with tryouts, he was just there waiting in a tent. No ask out for asking for handouts, no anything. Oh, he's awesome. And he was super funny and like he hasn't blown up yet or he's not like really viral. And I see him grinding and trying, but like he's never once like asked me to, oh, can you please help me go via? Like can I be in all your video? Can I be in all your Twitch streams or let's do a YouTube video together?

Like he's never asked. He just like been there and been himself and it's like in certain scenarios like it makes sense for us to do content with him And then he has a good person out and he goes viral and then he gets more followers and then he helps my content out It's like a win-win, you know? Yeah you got to be able to provide before you just go like chase and ask You know because yeah no like you just have no like like credibility. Yeah you know who I think is a really good example of this I don't know if you know him but you guys use tiki He's also known as white speed he's to stream snipe speed but I've never heard him like

asked for a collab or try to do anything I don't know if you've seen this guy at all he's the he's the streamer right now who's following who followed Morocco through the World Cup he was he's the kid I moved into my into my house yeah he crashed the I did the phase kickball thing ran up on the field the blonde kid

yeah yeah yeah I don't know like a magician outfit there was always something amazing about him and I got talking to him a lot when he lived with me but he eventually moved out to stream snip speed and him and I always talked I'm like bro you're going to need to do something that's you at some point that's just you and bro he he went from 30k followers so i think he's at 400 000 on the gram right now and his streaming is i don't really know his numbers but i know it's doing pretty well but he just went and did on his own and then people

started coming to him do you know how he's doing after like morocco lost and stuff after morocco loss he still continued the storyline because uh laminia mall is Moroccan so he dude they won his clips Yeah, going there. He was getting like a million likes. It's so impressive. I don't think anyone could just do that, bro. I think his personality and what he puts into it is what it was. Yeah, he has a really good like.

He has such a great personality. I remember him from the gym. Yeah. But he's crushing right now. And I'm very excited to see what he does now after the World Cup's over. But that was a situation that just his personality mixed with culture, mixed with a mission and storyline, it worked and he never he never really was asking anyone to do anything he just did it when you decide a storyline right

and you're live like did you decide it previously i can well like i'll talk about like the when i went to la like for the kai just go yeah i'm gonna go to l a and you figure it out along the way yeah so like i like the hulu original series furious is coming to disney plus starring emmy rossum Furious follows FBI agent Alice Black on the hunt for a mysterious and calculating serial killer. Both walk their own paths toward justice. And as their lives start to intertwine, the line between right and wrong begins to blur. Don't miss the three-episode premiere of the Hulu original series Furious on July 27th, only on Hulu on Disney Plus. All I knew before that, I was like, I'm gonna just camp out with Braden until the in-person applications. But like,

Oh yeah, I didn't get to finish. What's it called? So we camped out two days. Finally, we get in. Braden goes and he only gets to talk to Kai, whatever like that. And, like, I was like the next group, which was the last group. But they had to shut it down because they just couldn't do it anymore. I think, like, the school was, like, kicking, like, Kai's team off and all of them.

So they couldn't do it anymore. They had to wrap it up. So I was literally the next group. I was camped out two days. sleeping only like four or five hours in my car like only showered once how to use like wet wipes like buying new clothes and stuff like that and he came he came in our room there was like maybe like 10 or 15 of us and he was just talking to all of us and like he was just telling like you know he's sorry like he can't take any more applications like they have to get out of here um he's going to be

going to Atlanta next like and he's like like encouraging us to like apply online like online's what like really matters and I was just sitting there and I remember like like like You know, a lot of people around me were like kind of like, you know, like upset. And they were like, this isn't fair and all that. And I'm the type of person, like, I came like from like playing like football. Like I like, I don't know. I feel like football really also shaped me too as like a man in who I am today. Because like after all that happened, like I thought about it.

And I was like, I was like, I like to trick my mind too. And I was like, I'm glad this happened. Like I'm glad like I was so close to seeing him because like this makes me want it more. And it's going to feel even better when I see him. And at that time, I was like, I was like driving home and I was like, like, do I go to Atlanta? Like, I'm going to have to buy like tickets right now. Like, you know, I don't know. And like, in my brain, I knew I had to go.

Like I gave him a camera battery because this camera battery died. So I was like, I'm going to go pick that up real quick, you know, before I go home. I went to go pick it up. They were getting food. Braden comes out. And like, you know, the first couple words that comes out of his mind, he's like, you got to go to Atlanta. He's like, you got to continue that story.

line and I like I like right when he said that I was like I was like yep I know I got to go and I called my guy he has my credit card and everything I was like you I was like booked me a flight I'm going there like they're gonna blow up like I know damn well like I like everyone saw me and him like grinding outside streamer you like he's like my best friend he got in and got to talk to him I didn't like what's next for me like if I just go home and desktop like okay but I can continue the story line by me grinding Atlanta. So I went to Atlanta by myself, no cameraman, just selfie stick. Like, I was, like, farming.

Like, I'm going to have to sleep on the streets. Like, I'm homeless, like, all that stuff. But, like, I have money, but, like, I'm, like, saving money. Because, like, I was, like, in the process of moving out, which now I live out here. You know? So I'm in Atlanta. Like, I, like, the first night I was there. I genuinely almost got a jump.

Like, five gang members pulled up on me. They grabbed my phone. They all pulled up on me. grab my phone and we're talking crazy to the live like yo blah blah blah blah all that stuff like they're all going crazy and i'm just standing there i'm like i need my phone so i'm literally just standing there like waiting i'm like kind of behind the stream just like ah you know whatever like that and like what are you doing out here blah blah blah oh like i'm here for the like and like i like i'm like good at like i like i could tell like in that scenario like like i'm not going to act

tough and stuff like that because like it's a 1b5 i'm gonna die so i try to i like i like i put on this character like i'm like a sweet kid like i'm just happy to be there I was like, hey guys, I was like, oh yeah, like I'm streaming on Twitch. Like I'm here to meet like Kaisenat, you know, like, uh, you're doing the in, in person applications. That's why I'm here for. Like talk to the chat, say what's up, you know? Like, and, um, like, like, right when I said that, he was like looking at him, he said, oh, yeah, you, like, Kaisenat.

Kaisenat, like, all that stuff. And like, right when he said that, my heart dropped because I was like, I was like, I know like a lot of people are watching me right now. And he was like, Kaisenat. And he was like, you like, you like Kaisenat? And I was like, I was like, I. I said that's my daddy. I swear right when I said that,

I thought I was gonna get jump because they're all staring at me. Like there was two guys that weren't talking to the back that were just looking at me just like, and I was like, Kai's my daddy.

And they're like, oh yeah, like started talking more crazy to live and then they like gave me my phone. I dabbed up. I like,

y'all are hell low cool, but like my heart was pounding. Like I just like, I knew I was like this was like they were really close to jump at me. They were probably just like, oh, like whatever like,

like you just like a little streamer like we're not gonna get shit from me or whatever like that. and like people were like talking about that that clip was getting sent out to other streamers then um the in-person applications were supposed to be the next day later that night he um he posted on his instagram story and like twitter that like it's getting postponed they don't know what day it's going to be anymore but something happened like i forgot what happened but they were going to postpone it and um i had a lot of people watching me like more than usual and

And when I found that out, like, like instantly my brain, like my instant response, I found that out. And I was like, that's fine. I was like, I'm going to be in Atlanta until that in person application. Because like, I want this bad. You're saying in a hotel or you actually just like camping? Hotels. Yeah. I racked up $600 in a hotel.

Did you stream 24 hours? Yeah. I didn't end in my stream. Wow. Yeah. And what's it called? Like instantly when I heard the news because in the thing, he said like, he's like, no matter what we're going to find a way to have in Atlanta. this is like our like I just just ask you a question I'm so sorry I want to interrupt no good

what's uh is there a benefit in this situation of a storyline happening to not end or would it be okay to end and then pick back up the next day you could end but like it's like it's more about like the grind like I you you benefit way more not ending even though your views will drop in your sleeping people see like like like imagine like you heard about all this and like you see like damn like this guy is hustling like holy he hasn't ended his stream at 30 hours like he's sleeping on stream right now we were sleeping in a car and someone's knocking on the window, police officers shining lights. Like,

like, little shit like that. It's clipped up or whatever and like people public like, oh my God, like they're like grinding it out. Yeah. And then there's a clip where he's like rubbing his dick and smelling it while in this. No,

I was like a sleep and like I was literally knocked out and I just like like scratch my balls and it got clipped like bro's jerking off while sleeping. I'm like I can't fucking control what I'm doing while I'm sleeping like. Your default smelling it? I think. Yeah. He's like that. Yeah.

It was weird. Oh. What about in general? In general. Is it like better to stream 24 hours? Let's say there's not. No, no, no, no. Because I saw a Ludwig clip saying,

I don't do that. It can kind of hurt the energy and why people are coming to. You won't, you won't grow if you stream 24 hours because, like, you need time to plan your content out. Because, like, I could stream 24 hours.

Like, today, like, I had, like, I booted up, like, in, like, 20 minutes, I had 1,000 viewers. Then I was chilling around, like, 1,000, 800 viewers. And then I got rated. I had, like, 3K, 2K, 3K, That's awesome. But like I ended my stream like an hour after getting raided even though I could have kept it going and made like an extra like three, four hundred dollars from ads because like I don't want someone's first time clicking on my stream to be like, oh, those guys like it's kind of boring.

Is that really content? Is that everything planned? Like I don't know how to explain it. I just like and like also like I need time to plan out my streams too. Like I ended in my stream instantly. I was like, all right. Who is everyone I talked to at stream or you? I am going to DM them right now.

Like right now I have like 20 DMs I sent down on Instagram. I'm like, hey, like, it was really nice meeting you. Like, let's do a stream. That's very smart. And, like, sometimes, like, I'll DM people that, like, are, like, way bigger than me, but, like, I, like, talk to. And, like, I'll DM them with, like, like, like, a plan. Like, hey, it was nice me and you.

Let's do this, you know? So it makes it that, like, it makes it easier for them. Like, they'll just open their phone and be like, oh, I don't know how to plan. Bet, you know? Like, let's do it. And if you're local, it's easy. Yeah. Exactly.

Yeah. I have a question about you kind of talked about the money a little bit. I wanted to talk about that. At what point as a streamer are you like, okay, I'm, I can live. I guess obviously depends on how much your expenses are. But like, like, is it 1,000 viewers? Is it 500 viewers? Like, where are you like making money where you're sustainable?

Right now, like I probably get like, like, well, I haven't really streamed normally after streamer. Who knows? It might be up a little bit. But I'd say like I'm like around like high 300's 400 viewers if I'm just like doing like nothing just like trolling with my calm. but like I have a really tight community where like they send me a lot of subs same with him he gets a lot of subscribers for how many viewers he has so like right now um if you want to bleep it out you can if not whatever like I make around like 10 to 12,000 a month only from Twitch that's like genuinely like my only source of income yeah I would say I'd probably profit like maybe like 3,000 a month off that because I have to pay my cameraman my editors now I have rent and then also like I got to like spend money to like on my streams to like make happen you know yeah but like I would say like if I can double my

viewership I would be like in a really good spot like where I'm profiting like six seven thousand maybe even more and then that would also open up the window for me to get like you know sponsorships you know brittly maybe like right a clothing brand to me I just wear the on stream you know like I just ask because I think a lot of a lot of viewers probably or people who are interested in being streamers are probably interested in knowing that like where is that point where you're like I could be sustainable here I would say like a 1,000 viewers. Like, if you can average

1,000 viewers, like you can move out on your own, you can do your own thing. I mean, bro, if you have, if you average, like, 500 viewers and you live in, like, Houston or, like, Texas, and your rent's, like, $800 a month.

Like, bro, you get easy to make, like, five bands a month. If you get a thousand average, yeah. If you get a thousand subs in a month from, like, say you do, like, a little sub-a-thon or do, like, a little event and get subs,

and you average four or 500 viewers, and you stream pretty, consistently every day for like six to eight hours you can make like five k a month plus if you don't have a big team like if you don't have a cameraman if you don't have you're paying for like two k a month off just like you can like five to seven k a month and you can live off that and be like yo it's my full time I'm a full time to a streamer and the bare minute it's like a selfie stick with a with a phone with a phone and your desktop set up so if anybody's wondering I would say for LA like I would say like for LA I feel like you

need like a thousand 800 to a thousand average to like be able to like make happen on your own you know like rent paying people like all that like then like even then like you'll probably like every time he says make shit happen we look at each other oh okay that's our slogan for oh really yeah there you go but yeah what was it continue your story too no that's about it i'll just say like around like 800 000 viewers yeah because then like ad revenue you're getting like you know maybe like if you're streaming like six to eight hours you're running like maybe like 12 in ads you're probably getting like well that was your average viewership for a minute right how much like like you like when you average like a thousand viewers you know you like do like a thousand viewers you like do like

like an eight hour stream like how much like ads is that like I mean depending what like subs and shit just ad revenue like what would like one day be I don't know I feel like it's like three like three hundred dollars four hundred maybe like five hundred five hundred off ads yeah plus a subs too yeah so I'm sorry I meant finish the story of uh Atlanta I cut you off oh yeah sorry about that but yeah basically we'll cut back back to Atlanta they they delayed like the in in person applications to apply and they didn't give us like another day, like, oh, what's going to be on this day? They just said, like, we don't know.

We're going to try our very best to make sure it can happen soon. But, like, don't worry. Like, Atlanta is like our end goal. Like, once I saw that, like, I was like, I was like, bet. Like, and my whole chat was laughing at me. Everyone was making fun of me. Like, you're, like, obviously they're trolling. They love me.

But, like, they're just, like, trolling me. I was like, I'm not worried. Like, my friends were calling me. He called me. He was farming. He would call me and be like, oh, you're fucked. Like, imagine flying out there to Atlanta. And they canceled it.

Like dumb ass I got to see Kyle all that and I was like all good Braden like totally I'm gonna yeah he's just from me he's like my best friend I'm like my all good Braden like I'm gonna be here until the in person applications are because like I knew like that storyline is gonna hit so hard and what do you know the next day I'm out IRL when the in person applications were supposed to be I was out IRL like in the morning just getting breakfast and around I got like a clip like I'm talking to a cop someone sent like a bomb TTS like that's like middle east. like officer he has a bomb I'm running like I'm just like doing troll people are like sending clips everywhere I had like two three thousand viewers average by myself that's all from my lore because people knew like I'm out there like it was supposed to be this day like like like like what's Roddoch moon doing is he in his room crying like oh Kai like how could you do this like no grinding you know like yeah I want this shit bad and then and then yeah Kyle literally told me at stream university you look to me he was like like oh my god it was like the best feeling I walked in finally after not being able to see him in L.A. and Atlanta.

I didn't get to see him in Atlanta too. I didn't get to see him. It was just waiting. So then how did you get in? He looked at me and he was like, obviously I applied online. He was like, he was like, I saw you in Atlanta. Like I saw where you did in Atlanta. He was like, I was following you and like I was watching you.

Like that's why you're in right now. That's awesome. I like respect your grind. Like your house. And he like he DMed me too like yesterday. I don't know. Did he DM me? No, bro.

He damned me. He was like, I forgot what he said. He was like, he was like, you're a dog. He was like, he was like, like, keep killing it or something like that. I was just like, damn, bro. Like, I was just like, bro, I almost cried walking in that room. Like when I got in streaming, I was just like, like, oh, like it just everything built up to that moment. But like storyline definitely like helped me like a lot in that sense, yeah.

What's your guys's perspective of success? What does it look like? Is it like high level? Is it speed? level like how far you want to take it uh no i'm trying to go like as like as like as big as possible to be honest i don't know i i always like wanted to have like a community and like a like a fan base that like is as big as i could go and like influence as many people as possible like i think like growing up i played sports like i was i wanted to go to the nflb like that's why i played college

football yeah and i and then like when i started a girl on social media and people would come to me life because I blew up on TikTok so girls would come to me in real life. I go to like on campus when I had like I had like seven 800 K on TikTok in one semester like my last semester playing football girls are taking pictures with me I'm at parties like it was girls then but I always wanted to be dudes like of course the girls were cool but when I did twitches it became guys but I think that's why I wanted to go to the NFL so bad because I'll be like everybody know me and I'm famous and like it'd be crazy but then I was like damn I could like I'm not going to NFL like I'm not

gifted like like gifted enough to to go there i felt like so i could just make it happen by streaming and like doing social media and like i build my own community like without a coach telling me this or like you know what i'm saying like yeah i had i had control of growing as big as i could or as big as i can with social media and like streaming was like the main thing that i enjoyed to grow so so who in your guys's perspective who's the top top streamers like all time Top streaming all time is speed. All time. Or like Aden Speed, Kai.

And then, of course, it's like... Aiden started it. I would say, like, Aiden's, like, the founding father of streaming. Aiden started. But, like, if we're talking about right now, I would say speed and, like... No, all time. All time. All time.

All time, bro. Speed just performed a halftime show at the World Cup. No, no, I think it was the intro show. Or the intro show, whatever that was. Yeah, right. Yeah. I saw it. Like, what the...

I actually, I knew nothing about it. like was going to happen. I've turned it on and I was like, what the fuck this dude's singing? Bro, he's legit singing. It's his song. My fucking mind.

Yeah, his own song. Bro, I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, no, I think on the biggest,

like, that's the biggest platform. He might already be no, of all sports. But that's how big he's touched culture. Like, he's just, that's how massive he is.

He's known all over the entire world. Yeah. In such a big way. And it's from that soccer storyline. So fucking crazy. Because that's the world's, that's like the world's biggest storyline. But,

but during, During that storyline, he did so much more. It wasn't like he was just doing soccer. He was going to every single country, culture, different tours of these continents and experienced all of it. I think that's the dream right. That's amazing. He toured Africa.

He toured in South America. He toured the U.S. Like, he toured so many countries. So, like, everyone in the whole world can support him instead of just being like. He did every state in America, right? Yeah. But, like, damn. America's probably only, like, one-tenth of him.

his like viewership or it's like u.s it's like the whole world watches him yeah like is that the goal i probably i don't know i don't know if i want to be worldwide would be sick i feel like my goal would be like u.s maybe yeah yeah because i you feel like i you got to also have a passion for it yeah i don't have a passion for soccer or like football or i don't know what like a thing that i have a passion for that is like that worldwide that would take me there but like in my like streamer niche or whatever, I want to, like, go up the food chain as high as I can. Yeah. And, like, I've no, like, there's no feeling in me that wants, like, to stop.

I just want to keep going. Yeah. Growing. What about you? I honestly, I've always said this ever since I started streaming. Like, I want to be, like, I genuinely want to be, like, number one. Like, I want to be, like, one of, like, the greatest, like, when, like, you sit down, like, let's say 10 years from now, same podcast like this, like, who's, like, the greatest

streamers of all time. I want, like, my name to be. I remember, like, I would. I would talk to like my, like, my brother, like, he will, he still lived in me when I first started streaming. And like, he would come, like, he would go in my chat and he would troll me. Like, I love my brother. Like, and I don't like, like, expect him to understand it, obviously, because like, it's kind of like why you don't tell people like your dreams. You know, like you keep it to themselves because like they're not going to like understand it.

They're not going to like, you know what I mean? And like when I first started streaming, you would come in my chat and like, he would ask me troll questions that like I can't answer because like I'll get banned. You know, like, oh, like this. this like what are your thoughts and I'm just like I literally I got so mad like I literally in the middle of my stream I went in his room I was like dude like stop like bro like dead ass and he I'll never forget he was like he was like laughing he was laughing and looking at me he was like he was like he was like wait you're being serious and I was like yes bro like I like I like I like I want to do this I want to make this my like thing like forever like I don't want to work construction anymore I want to do this

and he was like he's like dude like he was like he asked me again he was like are you being dead serious right now and like we got in a fight and like after that fight like we didn't talk for like probably like six straight months not a word nothing yeah but I would say I want to and like I know like people are gonna like you know obviously like rolling shit but like I generally want to be like one of the greatest like of all time like I want to be like put down to like like like as like one of the best I want to be written like the books like top 10 streamers of all time. You got Speed, Kai, Aiden, fucking raw dog, man. Like, I don't want to do that.

Like, and I think I can do it because, like, there's no, like, I don't, like, I genuinely don't do it for money. Like, I, like, there's many other ways. Like, if I took as much time as I do streaming and I put it into something else, like, I have a lot of connections. Like, I can make money doing, like, anything. I'm a hard worker. Like, I know I can do it.

But, like, I do streaming because, like, I love it. And, like, I love making people, like, happy. Like, whether I'm, like, I get trolled. They're laughing at me, whether, like, I'm trolling someone. They're,

like, I, I just love that. And, like, I want to, like, the bigger I get, the more, like, just the more LOLs I see in my chat, the more Ome 44s,

like, all those e-moes. I just, like, that's just, like, there's no better feeling than that. I love it. Like, today I booted up. It was my first day back from streamer you. I'm dancing in my room,

going crazy. My chat's just flying. Like, Twitch came in my chat today. They gift to me, like, 25 subs. And like like like I can tell the way Twitch was typing to my chat that like it was a girl like they were saying like oh my gosh like bye with like a bunch of ease and I was like wait I was like are you a girl so I kind of like sort of like troll-rissing Twitch or whatever like that who's running it my chat was like laughing like I think you called me know like didn't you call me yeah I was like yo go go on hinge right now and give up girls. And like, Twitch, I see, like, oh, like, I see, like, I see how it is. I'm like, no, Twitch, I don't do that.

Like, it was just fun. I just like, I just like being a troll. Like, I just love it. But yeah, I feel like to answer your question, the end goal is like, I want to be, like, one of the best to do it. Yeah. Well, the only way to do that is to believe you can, so. Yeah. You have to be.

I'm delusional. I was delusional. You have to be. You have to be. Same. My whole family, everyone, everyone thought it was dumb. Even my mom, because my mom still doesn't, like, understand streaming. like she doesn't

she never she didn't want me to move out she just she always tells me I just like wish you like like a normal job so you can stay with us like I always wanted you to move out when you'd get married you know because I come from a very like traditional like household but I was like mom I was like obviously I wish I could live with you but like I have to move out here for my career yeah I need to do this

like because like I want to like I genuinely want to be great I want to be one of the great and um yeah yeah I mean I'm the same way as being delusional. I mean, you've seen it. Yeah, I know. I think every single person around me, there's many people who have apologized now, but thought I was absolutely insane. But you just, it's like you said, it's like you see it, you know you're capable of it. And if you never stop, but yeah, I mean, I'm the same way. And we got a later start than a lot of these guys. I was 26, 27 when things started working out for me. And when it starts, it's like you never,

you never want to stop. It's every day it's you're obsessed with it. Like I wouldn't be doing it if I wasn't obsessed with it. And there's a lot of things I want to. I stopped looking at it of like, oh my God, I want to be the biggest YouTuber or the biggest streamer. But I think through even like the World Cup,

like I want to do something where like I really impact people, whether it's bringing cultures together, whether it's giving back. But I think because I come from such a competitive background, it's like that's what keeps me going every day. It's like that's the same as these guys. It's like that's why I surround myself with them. It's like we all want to be number one.

Yeah. And I do think there's enough room at the top for everyone that really thinks that way. This is the first time in my life, I think. Because when I started, I was so solo on my own. And I've never been a part of a group. Like there's, you know, there's A&P, there's sidemen, there's core. This is the first time in my life that I've had people around me that, like, are on that same grind and like pushing me. We're pushing each other.

I think that's why Brady and I initially connected was a it was like a we started out actually not liking each other but yeah I actually I we both not didn't like each other yeah why why I texted Sky Bree on her DMs on a segment and she texted me back before I even texted her first and my viral was fuck wasn't I see that wasn't I see I didn't like it was just like no I know of each other I was texting a celebrities clips and this is like in my 50 days or a hundred day streaming yeah now I texted And I was texting Sky Bree and I was like typing in the chat and her speech bubble popped up first. And I didn't, like, we weren't mutuals.

I didn't know her and I was a small streamer. Like I had like 100 viewers. I remember going. And she typed and goes, uh, I'm, L.O.L. I'm watching your stream right now in the in the DM. And I'm like, what the, I thought that was fake. No, it was real on God. Yeah, it was real. I remember going on me like, like, who was this? Yeah.

Yeah. Because I followed her and then I went in the messages, right? So then she saw that I followed her. her, I guess, and then went on my story, went on my Twitch stream, and while I'm in her DMs with my chat, like, yo, what should I say? Like, you're going to get a viral clip. She text me first, that could have been mad viral. And then, yeah. Yeah, it was insane. And I was like, I thought it was fake when I saw that. I'm not going to like. On God, real. Like, it's crazy. And it was it through a time when me and her were like, we were ending and it was just a mess. And I'm just like, what the f like, I was going through all these emotions in my head of it just kind

of separating and I'm like, who's this? Yeah. Right now. And, and, and, and, and, you're And I showed up out. And then I had her on a Discord call. I was talking to her. He's trying to get at her the whole time. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm,

by honest, I was doing anything. Like, yeah. As a small stream, you got to do anything. And anytime you have, like, a little bit, you got to run with it. And like that storyline.

And later on, I knew Lana before I knew him. Yeah. And Zay was reaching out to Lana to stream with her. And dude, he was supposed to do his stream solo. And it was like, she was mad at him or something was going on.

They were just going to do it at my house. But his stream wasn't working. So they asked if they could come stream with me in my room. And Lana comes in. And like she does this whole bit of something with her and Zay. And after like she was getting with Zay and it went so viral. And he didn't like me because I was a part of it. And then we started, uh,

it was like, yeah, both of the girls situations you were in, put us against each other. But we started seeing each other at zoo. We got a workout in one day. He came up to me. He was like,

he was like, what's up, Nick? I was like, oh, what's up, Braden? You were sitting outside on the bench, and you were like, you're like, I'm about to work out. Yeah. Wait, was it like animosity at that moment? No.

I don't think either of us dislike it. Because at a Halloween party, I said it was good to you and it was like calm. I saw you like, once or twice and just said what's up and that was it. Yeah, it was so chill. But then we got a workout in and we just like started chopping about content and everything. Yeah, yeah. We started chopping about content. He was new to LA.

Yeah. And I was like, damn, I like this guy. I met him. I'm talking to him like, I like, I like him. Yeah, it was like same with me. Yeah. And then we just started talking, hell of him. I'll be on the phone with Nick.

Did he be talking about girls? He'd be talking about girls. They'd be up mad late. He let me preface that. We were talking about girls, right? You were talking for hours on the phone? Yeah, but we were talking for hours. You're like, no, you hang up first.

No, yeah. It was when I was staying in the Airbnb. I was paying for Airbnb for like three or four months when I first moved out here. I didn't know like if I was going to move in, like move anywhere or settle in. And literally right as my Airbnb was ending because I was paying like a lot for the Airbnb. Yeah.

Like, and I started getting close with Nick. And then he literally was like, yo, you can stay at mine. And then that's like, I didn't even think about staying with Nick or like asked him for it. And then he literally was like, he was going to move out of his. So I stayed at his crew for like two months before they moved. And then we just moved to a new crib together. I love how Zoo was able to bring you guys back together. It was a move. Bro, he was the first person in such a long time to push me. Like, because everyone around me like, oh yeah, I'll talk match. Yeah, that's rare. Not even talking match. Like, it was like a, sure, we talk a lot of shit and that makes us want to work

out and do better in our content friendly competition. But it was genuine like, he came in in my life. I think, like, you were there right after a really dark time in my life. And there was times those days I didn't want to get up. But this dude comes in my room, this 22 year old kid telling me to be like, get up, you're going to stream and do YouTube. We're hitting the gym. And we got in this like, it was just like, I don't know where it was like this like we

were loyal, respected each other, pushed each other, and generally wanted each other. to win. And it was like, if one of us started like something, we'd call each other out. Like, he would call me out on my grind and making sure I was streaming. And I would call him out on being like, bro, you got a storyline.

I'd sit down and explain everything to him of my knowledge. And it just became this like brotherhood of, I mean, bro, I'm thankful for him walking into my life. Like, there was a time where I thought it was fucking done. And I never was going to quit. I would never quit ever, no matter what. But it was like, it was just like this.

brotherhood that came in of like we're going to do this and we're going to do it together whether we're traveling or apart checking on each other or together i think me and nick both are really good like adapting like he would tell me shit about storylining and stuff and i would tell me about like twitch and like how to utilize like certain things in twitch teaching me so much and like we were both like whatever i tell him he'd actually do it and whatever he'd tell me like i'd actually do it instead of us just like me it's so crazy it's so crazy to tell someone something that you've learned and then watch them executed in such a large scale no because he would tell me because like you've lived with other people or like remember we had the uh we had try out we had someone

else live with you or no like i'm not trying to say no names there there's been people who get brought in like we've we've helped some people out after marlin left him he brought in like five streamers and he would like pitch them ideas and tell me to do streams you bring me to the gym and time and come to do everything and bring to the gym and like it was like what three or four that like one or like would stay with you yeah and like you would tell me like oh i'm trying to get him to do this and listening and they wouldn't listen. Yeah. And then he would take that and run with it.

And then he was someone who would check me and be like, Nick, you have this vision, you know how to do it. Go do it yourself. And finally, so hard to find. Yeah. So hard to motivate each other.

And this guy right here, you know, he would come around a little bit. And I'm like, he's nice guy. He's cool. And I am like really like, I've always been like weird about my,

like I need to recharge alone. But then I went to streamer you. This is the greatest guy right here. And he's just like us. He's just like us. He's just, He wants everyone around to win. He's just like Braiden and me of just like giving every advice you can

and making sure everyone's good. There was times I was so stressed at Streamer U of like getting shit done and figuring out and he would always just come in and be like, I got you. And it's like, this is like, it's a blessing, bro. It was like, it was that one day you were trying to plan the shit. I like, I saw how stressed out you were. Did I, then I just like come up and like hug you or so? I don't know what I did.

You hug me. You grabbed my face and you gave me a whole pep talking like, you're going to do this. It's going to be all right. Like don't like stress about nothing you can control. like this shit's gonna. Yeah, he's like, this party's gonna be massive. You have nothing to worry about it. Dude, it's so crazy because this last year,

I've gone to like my darkest place. And also I'm now like in my happiest, most motivated place. And you really just can't quit, man. You just really can't quit because there is another side of like having great people in your life and having success. And I feel like I was just two months ago in a place of like where it was so hard. It's like, where do you even go?

Yeah. You can't pose a video for a month. Yeah, there was a little. And I was talking mad shit to you too, but like not in a bad way, but like you're just trying to like motive, like get you more. Yeah. But you're going through hell of shit, bro. And like, yeah, we would talk all the time. But yo, you got to be delusional.

I want to bring that up how Nick was saying being delusional because literally I told you about this. There's even a clip on my phone right now from at the brand risk in Vegas when I told you like in 2023 when I was landscaping. Like I've worked like three, four like regular jobs or what, nine to five. Like I worked at a grocery store for like two and a half years, stocking milk and pushing cards. And then I worked at a retirement home as a server for like two years throughout high school. And then I was working landscaping. When I was landscaping, like you can wear your headphones, like your AirPods. And I would listen to podcasts.

And I'll literally listen to raw talk. I'm not even trolling. Like, I listen to raw talk. And I would listen to like podcasts about like Kai or like Joe Rogan and like Mr. Beast and like just content. Like I would just like be absorbing it. Like mowing the lawn and mulching. Like I worked on like this big ass like property. and like I would be doing landscaping all day, every day, like, and then I'd have practice.

I'd work out with my trainer after it hit the gym. But it was crazy because, like, while I'm pushing it at the same time, I'm posting TikToks and like trying to go viral. And like, I just hit 200K. And in my head, I'm like, yo, I'm going to be on the Raw Talk podcast one day. I'll remember this moment right now. Like, 2023, that's like three years ago from right now. Yeah.

And I just like manifested it. And I was like, yo, I'm going to bring it up. I was right now. It was moment long and listening. And like, and I was, like, you and Sarah were doing the daddy mommy shit too. Even back then, dead ass. I didn't know anyone. I didn't know Nick.

I didn't know you. I'd never even streamed on Twitch once. And it just showed, like, instead of me, like, at that moment, DMing you and being like, yo, help me out. Yeah. I just built that shit for three years on my own. And I, like, build up a team to get the credibility to even have you, like, invite me here. It was crazy.

Yeah. But you got to be delusional. Like, right then in my head, I'm like, yo, I'm going to be there. Yeah. You f*** did it. Yeah. And I remember for the moment I met you. I was like, this guy's got something special for sure.

The content wise, I knew it. Yeah. Because I remember I had conversation with you about someone else like in business world. I was like, yo, this guy, I think he's going to blow up. I saw you come to the gym. I met you that day. I kind of looked a little bit at your Instagram. I was like, I think he's going to do well.

So, congrats, bro, for real. I appreciate all you guys, bro. It's cool. And it's cool, Nick, you finally found, like, you know, a solid. It seems like a solid group of people that. Bro, ever since. Yeah, me and brain started kicking it. It's like he's bringing people around.

I'm bringing people around. Yeah, bro. Slowly starting to be this like little family group. I don't know what to call it. But did you guys see the clip of Kai telling Ron? He's like, you guys, you need to hang out more off camera than even you do on camera. This is a group of guys that like, I mean, Connor, I'm still getting to know. Carter just moved to L.A. too.

But I've been known for like a little grip now. This is a group of people that I'm like, bro, these are people like. I could talk to and hang out with all day. Like, and these people show up for each other. This dude showed up to my, he flew all the way out. I don't even think he really wanted, you know, it turned out great for him. I don't even think he really wanted to walk in Miami week. I wasn't going to go to Miami.

He flew up to Florida just to be there for my birthday and got, and bought me a gift. And it's like this 22 year old kid out here supporting me with everything I do. And it's just, I don't know, man. It's like a, you got to go through some hard shit, whether it's personal, mentally. But it all, like, then that's when it happens, bro. Yeah. Well, I'm happy for you guys, man. And it's a blessing to have you guys on here, for real.

Thank you guys for your opportunity. Like, genuinely, it's cool. Hearing the stories and hearing, like, actual camaraderie, especially in the content space, it's so rare. So, I mean, my best advice is just hold on to that kind of shit. And as you guys grow, keep helping each other grow. Because, like, that's the thing that, you know, I've recognized largely after doing this for so many years.

It's like, if you have people in your sort of ecosystem that you guys are all working towards something, obviously individually, but can help each other, you know, simultaneously. It's, it's, that's the key. That's the key to success. Because you can't, if it was just you making content alone, I can't think of like, maybe, maybe speed, but he interacts with tons of people.

You can't do it alone, any of this. You need other people. It's an anomaly of doing it alone. I think you need people who generally don't have egos to, like, really care about everyone else's career. Like, I can see it in both of these guys. I'm the same way. like these guys want everyone to win

I want everyone to win. Yeah. And if you bring that together, do it individually and then push each other to do this is a recipe for some. I really want like the people around me to win. Like if I like if I see you like putting in a lot of work like it just like like, bro, when I saw you go into Kai's office, bro, I was like no fucking way. I was bro like low key like on that first tryout.

Yeah. Oh, you crushed that. I was like no fucking way, dude. That actually made me so happy. I thought you were talking about when you went in and was risen him. No, no, no, talk about the. No, the, the, because we slept together for, and we were, we were crying for two days. That's insane.

Side by side and, like, finally it all paid off. And I'm just like, that's why when you didn't get in, bro, like, I knew, like, I, like, had to help you. I went to you. And, like, the first thing you told me, he was like, you're like, you got to go to Atlanta right now, game. Because you already spent all that time. Yeah. That was a, all that shit was insane. It's really, yeah.

It's kind of crazy. that we all got into that in the stream review i was crashing out on nick because i sat outside for two and a half days and i'm in the room after like sneaking in and doing all this shit almost getting kicked out and nick walks in with like a fucking snake and beer bro bro i have a he's like you he's like y'all i just woke up an hour ago i was like you nick brought in here for three days i didn't wake up an hour ago i was planning for hours no no you were like yo you were like you were like you were like you were like you were like you were like you were like you were like I wasn't waiting outside.

From being high the night before. Maybe at that point. Dude, I was, I was looking mad at the trial. I may have been, but no, I was planning for 24. That,

I had 24 hours to figure out what I was going to do and he wanted it. He didn't want it like, everyone walking in. Like he's like, he's like, come hella prepared and make this like, like a statement of why the frat should be there,

basically. So I came in with a whole bit, a whole thing done. Every little part of what, a little dynamic of a frat could be. But 24 hours live, living on the street. That is worse.

It was like 56. Yeah, 56. That's fucking way worse than I had to go through. There was a lot of people that didn't want to camp overnight. Like a lot of streamers. And they're like, yeah, I'll just show up like the day of or whatever like that. And it, like, I'm not going to lie. Like, I saw them like in front of the line, like in front of me.

And they even like got to go and talk to Kai like before me. Like, wow, I've been there for 48 hours. And there's a good amount of them that I didn't go to stream or you. And like, it's just like. Like I'm just glad like like we like record bro like that ass now you got you got to put in like twice the amount of effort if you're a smaller streamer yeah you can't look at someone who's big and like judge off their work ethic oh because like they've done so much shit to get to that point like what they're doing currently like like none of the core guys have to camp out yeah they're not going to do that they don't need to yeah like they just got in like right away to the auditions and then like of course they're all like god tier content creators and they have show they built up like the what's it called like respect or or or they've built it up to where they can do that, you know? Yeah. Because they've been grinding for so long.

It also makes the whole thing better too. Yeah, 100%. You need content creators who are really good at, like, all these events. But like us camping out made it better for us. Yeah. Yeah. But I think it was always being reminded to like die for it and be all in. Like you guys have done that for me.

I'm like, oh my God, okay, we've got to go harder now again. But yeah, I guess when I was like just starting out YouTube, it was like, do or die too, no money. you guys are at a pretty good place now but I think at any level it's good to be reminded of that yeah yeah well to be exciting to see like in the next few years where this

turns out for sure I think in six months you guys might have you guys are do your podcast again these guys are going crazy like I was Nick you're going to be doing your six podcasts here I just love Nick this is I know Nick for so long

yeah yeah I love Nick I didn't know at first but you only asked us about how he came up And then I realized I was like, he didn't ask him because you probably've been with him multiple times. Yeah, I know we've talked about it. Telling my story on this podcast, the first podcast ever I ever did. People were so confused of where I came from. How is he doing this? This dude told my whole story and like without being on this podcast and how crazy that went.

Like people wouldn't have understood who I am or what I did. Yeah. Appreciate you. Yeah. No, you deserve it, bro. You've been a good dude. I just like people who are fucking good people. You feel it.

You know it. You know it. You know it when you meet people. Yeah. So all you guys have that. So thank you guys for real for coming on. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me.

Literally like third day living here and like I'm on Bradley Martin podcast. Like I'm, it's really a blessing. I appreciate it. I really appreciate you a lot. You came 40 minutes. No, that's all good. I don't care.

I was shopping for pillows and shit. He's probably pissed. He's probably pissed. No, he's like, does he got to take this shit and then edit it and all that? You come in. Hey,

no, it's fine. I'm fucking with you. I'm fucking with you. Next time I'll be. I'll be on time. Nah, you're chilling. You're good, man.

You're great. But thank you guys for real. I need, you guys, anything else you guys want to say? Any last words? Never, you can't lose if you don't quit. It's a fact. You got to be delusional too. I absolutely agree with that.

David Goggins, you got to be delusional. Absolutely agree with that. Well, check them out. Obviously, you guys are on Twitch. You guys got Snapchat. Oh, yeah. Blue, uh, Bluetooth sponsor me, bro. Prize picks.

You know what I'm saying? I want to promote all your guys shit, bro. And like I just got like, uh, like, three to 500 million views off streamer you, bro. or just hit me up. They will. Wow. They will, yeah.

That was beautiful. Any clothing brands, I have no clothes. I'm poor. And LA's expensive as shit. So, yeah. I have a bunch of clothes. I can give you clothes. You'll be good, man.

I'll steal your shit. I'm serious. Everyone takes my clothes. I do that. You know how many of these shirts I bought? I bought like three packs of those shit. He's wearing my clothes to court tomorrow. All right.

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