RAWTALK - BRYAN CALLEN ON JOE ROGAN, THE TRUTH ABOUT ACTING, ACHIEVING GREATNESS, & LEG SWEEPING BRADLEY MARTYN

Episode Date: May 10, 2022

Come have a seat and laugh with us, as we get deep with our entertaining & wise guest Bryan Callen. We sit and speak about his career paths, his childhood, acting, comedy & family. But don't let that fool you we go even deeper and speak on the fear of death, wisdom, work ethic, accomplishments, & peace of mind, & beliefs. Sponsors: JAVY: If you love coffee, go to: https://buy.javycoffee.com/rawtalk and get 25% off your order using my code RAWTALK. Thanks to Javy Coffee for sponsoring today’s video! @javy.coffee #drinkjavyKUSHY DREAMS: Go to Kushydreams.com use Promo Code RAWTALK for 25% off your next orderBLUECHEW: Try BlueChew FREE at https://BlueChew.com when you use our promo code RAWTALK at checkout--just pay $5 shipping.SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

really tiny one. This is great. Hi. Oh yeah. Welcome to another episode of Raw Talk. We have Brian Kallan. Raw talk. Yeah.

It's like we talk about like fucked up shit. I'm all about it, man. No, you're like a professional entertainer, honestly. You're a professional podcaster. Like you're vetted in the game. Yes. I've been doing this for a long time. You're an actor.

How many movies have you been in? Because we know the. I don't know how many movies. I've done a lot of TV. I've done something on some TV show, whether it's CSI or entourage or, you know, whatever it might be, sex in the city. You're in sex in a city? Yeah. I played the jackrabbit.

I gave her a sex sprain because I was, pow, pop, pow, pow, I had sex like a jack rabbit. That was the joke. Yeah, the short strokes? Yes, and I actually choreographed that sex scene. Thank you very much, everybody. Was it, there were short strokes, though, huh? Oh, no, that was the short shorts I wore for seven years on. No, no, the short strokes.

Oh, yeah, the short strokes, yes. Just like. Well, well, that's how that was. And then they wanted me to wear literally like the equivalent of a tiny piece, like a post it and a rubber band. And that was it. A post for like. Yeah, for my, my situation.

So they, that's the, that's the max. They're like, this is all you need. This all you need. We want to see your ass. And then Sarah Jessica Parker was like, that's not part of the comedy. We don't need this. And I said, just, you know, I went to her and I said, I don't care of it. Is this what you want?

And so I just ended up wearing pants. What have you had the most fun doing content-wise? So movies, TV shows. You know, a lot of times when you're doing like the hang. over I knew all those guys way before. I knew Bradley Cooper and Zach Gallifinac all those guys way before they became famous. So you're hanging out with your friends. The problem with acting, dude, that nobody talks about is that it ain't fun. You want to know the real truth? Yes, I can relate to this. You want to hear the real fucking raw time.

No, I want to hear it. Yeah, let's hear it. I've, I did some, you know, bullshit. I mean, I was in a few things, but yeah, one thing, two things, but the second version and the first version. But I want to hear what you have to say about it. So I've been, you know, I was on a great show. The Goldbergs was so much fun. Number one, showing. ABC seven years my character got so popular they gave me my own show okay it's i've done well it's not i've done well as an actor pretty well pretty lucky yeah lucky right okay warrior but again yeah i've worked with the you know done readings with tom cruise it's all good you know i haven't been i haven't been wildly successful but i made my living for a long time acting ready for this dude yeah let's go

never been on a set when i didn't want it to be over how about that yeah never been on a set where I couldn't wait to go home and I never admitted that but that's the truth do you think they all do you think everyone feels that way even the top level guys it's probably why a lot of them drink because they get to the top and they're like oh shit this is my life this is waiting around all the time yeah I did I did movie Kevin Hart I love Kevin Hart and but the only fun of that movie was just hanging out with Kevin Hart and laughing with them everything else on ride along was waiting around in your trailer for your shot to come up people don't talk about that because I was I was on a few I was on a few things and it's like yeah you

sometimes you'd get up at like fucking five, six in the morning and then you're not shooting until like 12 and then they'll like redo something and then you're just they'll dismiss you and you like didn't even get to shoot the thing you were supposed to shoot and then you just do it the next day all over again

here's a lot of stand around and waiting when you're a star and you're doing a movie about about 15 minutes of your days actually acting I was on the set for five days with Joaquin Phoenix I was in the same room with him for about five days on Joker, okay?

And the first day, I knew I was not going to make the movie. I just knew I was like, this is not going to fit in with the story. But whatever, I'm dressed like a male stripper. I played a washed up male stripper. I had a wig on a bow tie. Yeah, no shirt, great. And five days in what used to be a carpet factory

in the upper part of New York that nobody goes to. Cool. Now I'm hanging out with the genius, Joaquin, or is it Joaquin? Who cares? Yeah, you know. The dude is so intense that he was 184 pounds when he got there

and Todd literally said I think he's skinny he showed up at 124 pounds how did he do it smoked cigarettes and ate an apple a day okay and oh by the way I'm in the room with him all day and did he say hi or by no he was in character

is the whole time is the whole time so if you're not that guy then you ain't gonna win an Oscar and I ain't that guy I was like okay if that's what it takes I mean I'm not arguing do you think it really takes that kind of dedication to like I don't know man because do all of them are all of the actors like there's no way they're all like I'm like because what's that type of acting it's called method yeah method acting yeah is there's no way

they're all like that Sean Penn if you're on a set with Sean Penn or you're on the set with Daniel day Lewis when Daniel day Lewis was doing Lincoln and I just know somebody who is in a lot of scenes with him they were like he wouldn't answer questions unless you were talking as though you were in 1865 in other words if you have questions about the world, you better be talking about everything to happen before 1860. It's like, hey, bro, I'll throw you on a flying headlock right now. Like, he's a genius. Yeah, I'll fuck you up, dog.

I'm fucking bored, bro. You're going to fucking answer these questions. Yeah, that's where I'd like to bring Bradley Martin. I'm like, look, this is my friend Bradley. Nice guy. But he's going to squeeze you until you come out of it. He's going to squeeze the character out of you. Enforcer.

So who's out of all actors that you've worked with? Who is your favorite? Who stood out the most? I love Bradley Cooper. Yeah. Because he makes you better because he loves to direct. I knew he was going to be a director way before because Bradley will give you ideas while you're shooting

Is he one of those method guys or he's just like Yeah not really He just loves acting so much He loves every detail he loves That's why he's so special That's why he's so good But I don't know me You knew him before

Yeah Like how so like we were all actors man We were all like you know Before you started getting gigs Yeah like Amy Polar Will Arnett Bradley Cooper these were all You know you come up with these people

So what happened to you Exactly I'm kidding No, it's a good question. I've talked about this a lot. Like, I had a lot of opportunity. But I believe that the truth finds its way through your behavior. There's a saying in acting.

An ounce of behavior is worth a pound of words. So I came to L.A. to be an actor. And I drew a line through. I had my own TV show. I was on a lot of shows. I started in my own show. It was a big sitcom. And that's what I, those are the things I wanted to do.

I drew a line through all the things I wanted to accomplish, right? But I never liked it. And what I realized was that every time I was on set, it was only an excuse to make the other actors laugh. The acting got in the way. So if you're not in love with it, you're competing with people like Bradley who are. And that is one of the main reasons.

I didn't, ready for this? I didn't work that hard at it. But why did you do it then? Why were you doing it? Because I came to L.A. to be an actor, but stand-up comedies would save me. Okay. Stand-of-this thing.

There's nothing like stand-up. So, so you came just for that and then you realize like, oh, I'm actually better at this. Yeah, dude, yeah. You know what? To be honest with you, I'm going to sound cocky. Oh, go for you. I'm a good actor. You are.

I, dude, you're, you're highly entertaining. I can. Straight through the gate, you came out and entertaining. Yeah. I can act. So I can do, I can, I can act dramatically. I can do really well if I want. I've done a lot of it.

I studied it. I studied it carefully and for a long time. I know a lot of it. But you don't like it. I don't like it. What do you like a lot of it? I love acting. I hate the process. It's like I love skiing. I hate the gear and getting ready and all. I hate it all. I just like going down. Yeah. I can't stand it.

That is the worst part. That's true. Holy shit. See what I mean? I love snowboarding. I love skiing. I hate the whole like driving getting there putting your shit carrying it walking with like the big old feet. Yeah. Yeah. We do we we where we do what if you really ask yourself what you honestly revere what do you honestly love because we you know part of it is look we do a lot of things and this is what you realize when you're as old as i am you do a lot of things as compensation to fill a whole and how old do you just 55 so you you do a lot of things that that kind of that you um that are almost compensation for trauma compensation for how much you hate yourself which is not a bad thing by the way yeah i also think it's fine to hate yourself

lot of that yeah yeah of course you have that's why you're so successful that's why you're unique what moved me like i almost started crying when i saw that clip of you talking about your dad i went and hug my son because you know i i understood everything about you you're a giant man great looking guy with a whole bunch of armor on your body i i got i want i got you i showed it to my trainer and we both fell in love with you right there you can never look bad when you're vulnerable, but I saw your entire life. I'm also the best in the world at that. I'm good at like, I can read people quick. I know, I know what they're proud of and I know what they're ashamed of. I'm really good at that. And, and, uh, and I know I can see a wound. But I got to tell

you, you know, we fucked up way, thank God, because it made you pretty special guy. Yeah, I appreciate. Isn't that fucking crazy though? Isn't that ironic? Yeah. I mean, well, that's the whole thing. I mean, that's the thing I try to talk about whenever I speak about it is like, there is no doubt in my mind I wouldn't be at this place in my life I wouldn't have the things that I have I wouldn't have the team that I have wouldn't have the people in my life I wouldn't have anything to say about shit if it wasn't for the shitty stuff that happened to me for that chip on your shoulder straight up why'd you leave me you know I wasn't good enough all that shit and you know intellectually it of course I can talk you out of it emotionally dude emotionally yeah that whole good luck that's the thing is like I know intellectually that like it wasn't about me and I've even like gone over this many times with therapists and just different points in my life like even really realizing it more and more and more there's still just it's always there yeah no matter even almost no matter how much i talk about it it's still there like you know i know to go to forgive the younger self that made those assumptions that made that that like hey this is my reality and you're not

good enough and you're not this and i could even go and forgive that but it's still fucking there and that's the thing that fucks me up is like how could i be so aware of it and that it's not like that's it wasn't like I wasn't good enough he had his whole other reasons why he made those choices but how come I could still be 33 about to be 33 years old this month and still just that shit just is able to just linger there yeah but I'm glad it's there because you're really young and you're going to find your peace you know one time I was talking to Joe Rogan and he said something really interesting I think we were podcasting and he said my biggest accomplishment is achieving peace of mind you should have seen him when he was your age

you should have seen me when i was your age we're very different people but he's a radically different person and for his own reasons and one of the things that he said is my and i noticed that it was he achieved peace of mind that's a huge accomplishment to put to rest the things that that made the world dangerous you had to stand on your own two feet you know at a very young age so I find that fascinating I find that what do you what do you what have you done to achieve the peace of mind um I heard Jordan Peterson and I'll try to quote it say something that encapsulated everything I I believe in okay and that is that he said it the absence of discomfort most of us are always moving toward pleasure and away from pain that would be the idea that

would be the John Stuart Mill utilitarian concept of philosophy, right? Yeah, that's what most people do. But I don't think so, and I don't know that that's the anecdote to suffering. And one of the things that Peterson talks about and seems to be obsessed with is the idea that life is suffering, life is a crucifixion in one way or another. You're always going to have, you're going to face loss, you're going to face even the degradation of your body. You know, there's going to be a point where no matter what you do, you're going to be

uglier and weaker every day that passes. It doesn't matter what you do. And we have to, we have to accept that we are limited creatures like that. But I think that he said something that I thought, I thought was so moving. And the way he said, I could never say, but he said, the antidote suffering would be something like people would say, well, the antidote of suffering would be to seek out comfort. And he said, I suppose that's what you do when you swaddle a baby. But the other proposition is, The antidote to suffering is an adventure to excellence. And so a mother's job is to facilitate that in their child, to say, go, go.

And the child says, no, but it's dangerous out there. And the mother says, yeah, no kidding. It's dangerous. It's more dangerous if you stay here. And if you go out there, you might lose your body, but if you stay here, you'll lose your soul. Yeah. Now, that's dramatic, but I believe that. And so I think for me, I always try to align myself.

with what felt like the truth, what felt like, you know, you feel swaddled sometimes. You feel like when you ever do that when you're trying to please somebody, you're in a relationship, you're in a working thing, and you just feel like you're stepping on every one of your impulses. You're just not allowed to show yourself. There's a suppression. For sure. And we all fall into that. And then you have a conversation and you break free of it.

You quit that job and you just feel like, oh, man, I feel so. much better you do that when you break up with somebody you didn't want to break up with you're like I'm finally out of that you know oh man right yeah I mean I mean here's a thing is like it seems like the the thing that is most important in life is to like you said and in reference to him is like this journey portion yes is going through the bullshit yes and accepting it that that is life like not that it's always going to be bad it's also there to push you toward your best self yeah you know I always say that your best self is in another room waiting for you and you can hear him clearing his throat you know you're ignoring him or you're ignoring her and you'll do it with a lot of drugs

alcohol friends and a lot of noise we all do it but please understand why do you think why do you think we why do you think humans are so apt like their first response is like avoidance whether it be like like you said through drugs through like just something that's not genuine for them because it takes responsibility yeah so so if you really if you really take a look at who you could be I was talking about this today in terms of how we define ourselves because what happens is people define us. Our families, the people closest to us define us. And what I mean by define, a good way, another definition of how to define somebody is they, they, when you, when you are defined, it means there's a whole bunch of stuff you could never be because it's not for you, because it's

not who you are. Instead, you're Bradley, Martin, the bodybuilder, strong man, whatever. Right. And there's a lot of power in that and money in that. and a lot of attention and all those things. But, of course, you're way more than that. And sometimes you've got a kind of, like there's an old saying in script writing. For the character, for a good movie, the character has to give up what they want for what they need.

Yeah. There's what you want in life, and then there's what you need. And a lot of times to get what you actually need to become a complete, whole human being is to give up what you want. It's to give up what you've been desiring. Because a lot of times what you desire is,

the things that you can measure like status power money recognition boy are those i've been chasing that that's a white whale that you chase your whole life right and we're all human and everybody's excuse for doing it because it's what gives you a nice house it's what gives you the things you want but i have also and i think we all have nostalgia we again the the person what's clearing its throat in the other room is that what you need yeah and you know you got to give up a lot of the stuff over here to get what you need of all right guys quick interruption we got another sponsor blue chew that's right blue chew has sponsored the podcast today um if you guys haven't tried this before uh i encourage you to try it i mean not every single one of you might need it but if you need a little extra help in the bedroom

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it's comfortable and more importantly when you when you actually look at what you want when you actually see who you could be if you actually see the hero what is the hero of your own movie look like man that takes responsibility because if you really see it if you really can conceive of it in technic color and detail you got to you got to step into that uniform and now you're now you now it's like jumping into the abyss and hoping you sprout wings because damn bro i don't know it's more responsibility yes but it's also truth and it's also what great people do it's it is why do we never really admire we don't really admire the people that made a ton of money we admire visionaries yeah we admire people that yeah right we admire people that that that put something a higher

ideal above themselves. The Buddha, Muhammad, Christ, Moses, and these are the mythical, these are these sort of religious figures, but Gandhi, Martin Luther King. We think about Thoreau and Emerson, not because they were great writers and they were, but also they were, they were sort of transcendentalist. They were beyond that. They would write words like, oh, most men live lives of quiet desperation. And all of us go, fuck, me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's, that's, that's, that's I always, that's kind of like my proof that something like God exists because there are certain things that resonate with our psychic structures as human beings. All of us, certain stories. We love stories that we all love, even children who don't even had to read resonate with a story

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Why do you think some people are better at telling stories than others? Is it because of the connection to themselves? Well, that gets into, that gets into why, you know, this guy who won a Fields Medal in mathematics, right? It's, uh, it's the, it's like the Nobel Prize of math. he he was you talk about smart people what of what prize it's a field metal it comes how to fuck you know about a field metal i don't know i know everything okay i mean i'm old and i read

but but i i know useless facts i don't mean i know everything i know nothing but i know everything like that i know dumb shit like that but but it resonated with me because um one time i heard uh flannery o'connor a quote by her said i don't sit on my typewriter to write i sit in case something happens and the fields metal comes with a million dollar prize and this guy, this Russian guy, uh, they didn't even know if it was a question. They didn't know if the math. They didn't know if it was a question. Like, wait.

Yeah, yeah, dude. This is math. Okay. So they didn't know if this math, this equation was even an equation. I hate math, by the way. Well, dude, these guys deal on it. And not only was an equation, but the answer was 357 pages long. Okay.

Yeah, enjoy that. It's like, what's the use of that? Dude, there, well, there were six, well, I'll tell you that there were six people in the world that could actually tell him if he was right or wrong. Anyway, these six top mathematics go, it's not only a question, he answered it, and he wins a field from behind. And he disappeared. They couldn't find him. And they couldn't find him. He found him a year later. He was living in his aunts shed in Siberia, working on another math equation. They go, it's a million dollar prize. He goes, yeah, but I don't deserve it. They go,

what do you mean? He goes, well, you're giving the prize to me. I happen to have a wiring and a frequency that was able to channel the answer. But the answer always was up there. And a lot of writers will say that. Stephen Presfield and the War for Art will say, the story is complete. It exists in the sky. If you keep showing up every day with faith, it'll reveal itself to you one piece at a time.

And so I would say that some people seem to have the kind of, I get, this is spiritual talk, right? I understand it. Are you a man of God in this sense? I don't know. Yeah, okay. I certainly am not a man of. only the things I can measure.

Right. I believe in getting close to things you can't measure. I like wonder. Because it's so funny we're talking about this. I've thought about this many times. Like there's many times when I made pieces of content and then I got done and I was like, where the fuck did that come from?

Well, I'll do you better. I'll do you one solid. So when you talk about math, right? There have been mathematicians that spend their lifetime working on an equation that bears zero relevance to the material world, zero it's like we fucking it's some weird theoretical math thing and then they die it's and then it just goes into some dusty math like book and then a hundred years later when they're trying

to put a rover on mars they go fucking way yeah dude they go well we can't do that without that equation that that guy had a dream he had a dream and he and he wrote it down that's a fact that's I don't know about the rover on Mars, but that there's, there are, there are cases of that where mathematicians had this abstract, theoretical idea and it bears direct relevance

on everything you do today. It's, so there you go. You don't believe in God? Well, all right, but I believe in something, man. Yeah, no, that's, and that's fuck, man.

How about that? I'm so there in my life. And I, not that I'm, not that I don't believe in God in a sense. I've had this whole struggle with like, where does it actually come from? We all do. Yeah.

We all do. I mean, the Catholic Church talks about doubt. Doubt is a necessary ingredient in faith. Of course you have doubt. If you didn't have doubt, faith wouldn't exist. You know what I'm saying? Faith and doubt go together. You can't, I mean, nobody is jumping up and down saying the sun's not going to come up tomorrow.

We all know the sun's coming up tomorrow. There's no doubt about that. Right. There's no doubt that you and I are going to die someday. Yeah. But. Which is one of the. scariest things in the world to me that's one that's my biggest fear it is my biggest fear that

yeah why i don't know me i well it's it's gotten easier for me as i've gotten older but for the longest time it like tormented me because i don't know what is on the other side straight up so so i like knowing yeah i like understanding yeah i see this a lot with a lot of people that i know who are obsessed with health and longevity so if you want you want to get a bunch of really rich people's attention all you have to do is start talking longevity if i show up with david sinclair or whoever uh at at at at at the richest with jeff bezos and elan musk and everybody else not to put well these guys are talking about like living forever type of shit now oh i know dude like the rich have always done that if i show up at a party uh and he's my buddy we are we get cornered we get

cornered tony robins was talking about his dear friend david sinclair hey bro you've known him for a year relax dude i know i know he i know he's got some concoction that you think is reducing your biological age to 51 when you're 61 no it's not don't buy it i know that you know me and rogan have these arguments all the time i'm not that interested i mean i if you got a pill i can take that's going to keep me keep my body out of my way okay i'll take it i see what you just said i'll take it but i don't think that's the point to life the point to life is that you are finite right but how are limited my question my question on that so to that point if i understand that because that's what we know but how could we make an assessment of something that we don't know

which is living forever wisdom come wisdom is the acceptance that you are more wrong than you are right and that you are defenseless no matter how much armor you put your chaos the flood loss whatever you want to call it can come in an instant and you will not have the armor you will not have the weaponry to defend yourself. That's a hard thing for a guy like me and you to accept, but I have accepted it as I got older. Is it still worth it then to build it up? It's worth, effort is always worth it because,

but less for the reasons we probably think and more for what we learn about ourselves. And maybe the whole point is to realize that it wasn't necessary. Yeah. That might be the idea. Fuck. Right?

You might find Europe, you're a, Look, you're a ridiculously strong human being. I've never seen anybody do the shit you do. It's hilarious. I thought Brendan was strong. Like, you make him look weak, dude. You're just, you're deadlifting the craziest shit. And that's a huge accomplishment.

It just is. You know, even like the way you built your social media, everybody knows who you are. Yeah. You have your own gym. You're 33. Yeah. I mean, you know, you're a crazy entrepreneur. And you've done it all through just insane effort and being like truly unique in

the most saturated field period. right so you're kind of a one percenter and it's awesome but what i also appreciate is that you are interested in how to get out of this thing yeah you know well because it's like it's all dude i love it i'm grateful for all of this i'm grateful that i'm able to be here have even have you on my podcast talk to all the people that i've talked to and but there's still a part of me that goes like how the fuck did i really get here like i know i put in the effort i know i put into energy i know i said okay i'm going to do this and a lot of things that i said i was going to do i have now or I've done or I'm still working towards or I'm closer and I know it starts there

but there's still a part of me that's like why me like how did I get so lucky to because no matter how you cut this timing of things are still like so important right if I was like you know five years later on my advance of okay I'm again on social media and do this and do that because I was one of the first people on social media in the fitness industry doing anything before it was even a thing yeah and then it became a thing because I did it. Right? I'm not saying that like, I mean, yeah, I guess I kind of did create the shit, but obviously I didn't create Instagram. I created like the whole like the lane of fitness influencers on social specifically Instagram. That's a big deal, dude. That's pretty visionary.

But but regardless of that like that, the timing had to be perfect for that to happen in my life. So I still have that piece where I'm like, how did I get so lucky? You would have, I see. I actually think guys like you that that success is a mindset. The exercise is a symptom. You would have found, I put you in a hole, I put you anywhere, you'd find your way. That's just, Rogan's the same way. Guys like you who, I could take everything away from you right now. I could take it all away.

And you'd go through a year of like, oh, no, and then you'd build back better and bigger. I know you would. You're just that kind of guy. Success is not, it's timing, I guess, it's luck, they say. It's also a mindset. you have a crazy mindset yeah i mean okay if it wasn't fitness you would have found something else yeah i know you would have so you're the kind of person that you know i put you in anything if you were a navy seal if you're a fight you would have tried to be the best you would have been

the best you would have what do i have to be the best tell me what i got to do i don't care if i have to break my back how how rare do you think that kind of mindset is it's rare but why because like how come yeah i think it might be wiring if this combination of of you got to have the perfect amount of trauma wiring and intelligence curiosity and it's a combination of shit i've never met anybody who's really like that who didn't go through a lot of shit when they were younger especially some kind of loss but so do you think it's the shit that makes you or you're wiring different because i'll tell you one thing the buddhist would it takes it takes the deepest mud you know sprouts the the brightest flower you know that idea the lotus flower comes from the darkest

and deepest mud you know it takes shit to make a flower i mean i i want to say this the thing that I remember the most vividly about my childhood was the years after I realized my father took his life when like I think from like six years old to like 12 I kind of blocked it all out but when I was 12 I remember being 12 years old and like walking to school and the thing that I'm not trying to get emotional but the thing that I don't mind yeah the thing that I was so interested in in my own mind besides like you know the thoughts of you know why did my father leave me and am I not good enough why is this my life how come that kid that I am friends with has his dad and I'm spending time with his dad and I'm like how come I don't have this at home and this is in my my circumstance

yeah the thing that was so crazy to me was when I was like 12 years old I was so hyper focused on my thoughts I remember thinking like do other people think about thinking I was like dude yeah I was it normal that I'm thinking about the thoughts and thinking do other people think this much about their own thoughts but it was weird so that was a thing that I realized very, very young, I was like, this is, I remember thinking to myself that the way that I think is not normal are other kids thinking about the way that they're thinking in relationship to the way that other kids are thinking. See, just that-

Just that question you're asking is something most people aren't even interested in. And one of the bummers about having questions like that is it's a little lonely because there aren't a lot of people that speak to, right? Yeah. Like, you're intellectually curious and you're philosophically curious. That's a philosophical question. Yeah. It was weird. Yeah. I mean, I don't, dude, that was the thing that was so, when I look back at my childhood, I was like, that's, I think is the reason why I've gotten to the place that I'm at. And also the reason why I have a lot of like, you know, ingrained and anxiety and like thoughts around like death and fear because I, I would try to figure this out. I remember being a kid trying to like, what is death? I remember that's why I think I was so afraid of it as I got older was I thought about it for so long. And normally I could think about something and it would start to make. sense eventually and that one never made sense to me it never ever made sense so you know it was

like you you go to school and you get hurt or whatever it's like you got a scab and then two weeks a week later it's like good and all that stuff would make sense and this thing i was like i can't figure this out no matter how much i think about this i can't figure it out and that would always fuck me up and that's it's still like you still don't know that's kind of why i think maybe um people like christ spoke about uh spoken parables and a parable zen master speaking parables you know what a parable is? It's what's the sound of one hand clapping kind of stuff. It's like questions that there's no answer to, right?

And the idea is to get you beyond logic. You're asking very logical questions. You're asking questions you can measure. And I think the answer might come from the idea that, you know, there are certain things you can't measure. And you just let go? Yeah, but letting go is freedom. Letting go is sort of the, again, it's what I meant by wisdom.

wisdom is kind of like having the accepting the fact that there are some things or maybe all things you can't control and that's hard for a control freak yeah and i'm the same way dude i'm i'm i'm a type a motherfucker you know and i work you know it's my success is not an accident you know but um yeah man especially for a guy like you though because you're you're keyed in and you're driven but sometimes the question is what do you what do you i'll tell you a story i had i i did this as a bit but i'll tell you what happened i was um i would never have been a comic without i grew up all over the world i was moved every two years i lived in i was born in the philippines i was reading about this yep i was i lived in india calcare cauda and bombay i then moved to uh lebanon

then pakistan lebanon again greece then sada arabia i was 14 i was shipped to boarding school your parents from the military or what yeah probably probably CIA, probably banking, who the hell knows? Both parents, you still have both parents? Yep, okay. And so I was moved. So my life was chaos in that sense, to no one's fault. But I mean, I didn't live anywhere for more than a year, really, maybe 16 months.

Like your whole childhood. My whole child. That's intense. That means saying goodbye to all your friends. That's so intense. And saying goodbye to your dog. You just, they were, and I'm talking about a different continent, a different, you know, country. Yeah, you weren't seen them again.

No, it wasn't in the United States. It was real. change. And then the United States where I'm in boarding school, my parents still in Saudi Arabia, and I'm in Massachusetts, wherever the fuck that was. What the fuck? Yeah. So what happens in those situations is this. And I talked to this therapist. I went to, I've never been to therapy, but I decided I want to see what it was like. And this guy came highly recommended. And so the guy hears me. And I, and I, that's all I said. And then, um, and I, I know that the way. And I, I know that the way I used to make friends was if you throw, if you throw a young man, a young boy in a new school

with a bunch of dudes, the way you make friends is how. Make them laugh and be kind of good at sports. Yeah. Okay? Yeah. And so I was like, I better not be the last guy picked on the team and I better I better figure out a way. And I wasn't built like you. So I wasn't going to be a star, but I better figure out a way to, I'm not going to be able to beat people up. I better be able to figure out a way to make the big guys like you laugh their ass off. This portion of the video is sponsored by Javi. This is amazing. It's basically like a coffee concentrate.

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But when you were, when you were dealing with, when you're in school with the kids. Up until I was 14, but I went to boarding school until I was 18. So I left home. I didn't live in my home until, after the age of almost 13. Like I think I just turned 14 and I was, and I never went back. Holy fuck. Yeah, okay. Because I was in, then I went to college and D.

then I would live in New York, so out of the house. My parents are great. It's just what it was. Yeah. So the guy goes like this, he had moccasins on. He was wearing moccasins. And in my mind, I was like, this dude wears moccasins. The joke is, if you think the world is safe enough to have zero traction under your feet, bro,

you've never been punched in the face. This is why China's winning. And I don't know if you live in the Shire. If you're not an art thief or you don't cut people throat because you have to sneak up on them, Get take the fucking mock it's put shoes on. Bro, it's Thursday at 3 p.m. Take the fucking moccasins off. So immediately I'm like, the guy wears moccasins.

He's not going to understand my brain. For me, you know, I don't wear, I mean, we'll get into my toe holds and flip-lops. But you know what I mean? This is because I have, but, but moccasins. So anyway, I'm judging this dude. He had a poster of like a bird. He's a bird watcher. I'm like this fucking guy.

Like, you're not going to understand an animal like me. You just don't understand how. I'm trying not to cut everybody's head off. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? So, but this dude was a genius, and he'd been around, okay? He'd been doing this for 35 years, and he looked at me, he goes, you're a stand-up comic.

I've seen a lot of you. And we started talking, and at the end of it, he said, he basically said, you were moved around. You lived in all those countries. He said, and how did you make everyone like you? You made him laugh. And why are you staring at my moccasins? You've been looking at them the whole time.

This is what he said. You're sitting like this. And I go, broke, and I'm going like this. I mean, I didn't speak. I'm using my, my, this, I'm changing his voice just because it sounds better. Yes. But literally he goes, and why, why are you staring at my moccasins? And then you know what he said?

He said, I suppose they're threatening to you, aren't they? Because a true nomad like yourself needs a strong, thick, dependable. soul every time they step into the unknown bro and i went i was like oh talk about getting emotional because you didn't tell them all this other stuff i didn't tell him shit yeah the guy was just talking to me and picked up on all this stuff and i went oh well that's why every major successful person i know talked about you i was like this little dude who've been doing it forever is such a he fucking read me i thought i was a mystery this dude had me in the first five minutes He's like, hey, white belt.

Hey, white belt. I know you think you're a mystery. You're walking in. It's like the Christopher walking movie. Got a game of phantom on. You're telling me everything. You don't understand me. You don't tell me nothing.

You show me everything. You know, basically, you're telling me nothing. You show me everything. He's looking at me. I was giving myself away with everything I did. My whole fucking everything I said, because most of it was bullshit. Most of what we say when we meet people is. And another thing about how cool I am and tough I am and successful.

And how much I don't need you, Mr. Therapist. And he's just going, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. What did this therapist teach you ultimately? That, well, that's a lot. That's a different question. Maybe, maybe, maybe that I am not as mysterious as I think I am. That's just a humbling.

It's a humbling thing when you get a real sense of what motivates you, which is acceptance, which is a desperate need to be liked. Yeah. And you've got to lose that. You had a, you had a desperate need to be liked. like do you think i'm a comic i'm a stand-up comic i mean i think all comedy comes from a place of like something dark kind of like that i hope so it's certainly i i certainly think one of the prerequisites is you shouldn't like yourself too much which everybody is that you should love

yourself fuck off nah the most interesting people i know come from broken homes and they hate themselves i like a misfit you're a misfit i'm a misfit my friends are misfits get the fuck out of here yeah did you ever see anybody get successful from comfort when you're all relaxed You ever see a stoner? They seem motivated puppies and stoners smile And they're happy The fuck out of here with you're happy That's interesting

Yeah I mean it goes back to what we're talking about earlier About the journey and the being uncomfortable And like being comfortable with that Like period It also bonds you You ever go through a discomfort with a friend You ever go through some shit

That's challenging Even when you train hard with somebody And you guys set goals Or you know whatever You get close to that motherfucker You do Yeah I mean it changes things Yeah do you

So you still go to this therapist? No. He doesn't wear the mock. Does he still wear the moccas? I stopped going because I got afraid. He was like, he was too much.

He knew too much. I don't know. I was like, I don't know, bro. I mean, I should have gone, but I,

you know, I just realized when you asked me that question, I don't have an answer. I can't go out with a lot of excuses. I was busy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That guy, that guy got on to you, bro. I know. And then I saw a dude who I knew come out of his office. I didn't know, I didn't know you saw such and such.

You say, did he have the moccasins on? Yeah, I go, I don't know you know such such. You know what he did? He goes, don't know the man. I was like, oh, this dude, this is. Holy shit. Dad, motherfucker! Dude, I want to talk to this guy.

I should send you to him. Yeah, I want to talk to this guy. I'm dead serious. He's incredible. What the fuck? He's gotten highly recommended from other people as well. Yeah, bro. I'll set you up.

Okay. So I want to talk about a little bit more about like your childhood. Yeah. Like, was it just constantly, like you? Yeah, chaos. But with your parents, like how much interaction, like, What, how close were they? My mother was, my mother, my parents are amazing.

I love my parents. They're, they're the best. I always shout them out when I just stand up when they're there and stuff like that. And so they did an amazing job because they loved me. Yeah. They're great people and they're strong people. But my dad was always gone. He was traveling all the time.

Working. Yes. So you wouldn't see him for long stretches. My mother was very intelligent. She's a very wise woman. But she's also a bit neurotic. Yeah. It's like this, you know,

think it was somebody said what makes you think that a woman's nervous system evolved to serve her you know guys like ah women are crazy or women are neurotic you know there's this psychological psychologists say that the neurosis in women is higher than men on average well you know what makes you think that her nervous system evolved to serve her it evolved to protect her children and if you want to keep your children alive you have to see you have to perceive dangers that aren't even there you have to that the rustling in that leaves is a lion, not a bunny rabbit. Yeah, you got to be a few steps ahead. All the time.

Yeah. So, you know. That makes sense. Yeah. So, so you, women will be excused if they have a natural propensity on average to be a little bit more neurotic, cautious, worried, anxious than men. It is probably a very necessary component to.

So your mom was more like that. So my mom was more like that. Yeah. So, you know, you grew up with that and then you're growing up with no consistent. and moving in the middle of a school year, you know, all that shit. I just didn't know what the fuck was going on.

Yeah. Because you seem super like, like even in the conversation, you're just, you're able to be everywhere almost at once. Yes. Like it's funny how like your personality is that. And like you did that your whole life growing up

and how it's like a reflection of that. Yes. It's fucking interesting. Survival. It's crazy. Yeah. Survival. And do you think a lot of your success comes from that?

Yes. Yeah. Yes. I do. And I wouldn't trade it. And I think anybody who's going through a hard time right now, if you go, if you're going through something terrible or you're going through, um, uh, loss or whatever you're going through if you're listening, your job is to embrace it and then say, then say, my, my goal is to make sure that in five years, three years, one year, 10 years, that when I look back on this crisis, I wouldn't trade it in for anything. Yeah. that this was the gift this was not the demon but the angel pushing me toward my best self this is what

forced me to build from the ground back up and stand on my own two feet yeah and and deal with loss and deal with what happened to me so i'll i'll build on that i my mom was just here recently and my mom would always she would say to me sometimes growing up like oh you know what it would be like it would be different if your dad was here this and that she would like theorize these like ideas of what it could be like and you know your dad was such a great person and and all this stuff and like I just wish you were able to have this and that and I would always stop her like as I got older on in my life and I was like no this is like exactly what I needed to go through and I just think it's really important for the person listening to to understand that

because I wouldn't change what happened to me for anything exactly because that's so ironic isn't it yeah even though at the time that's all I wanted was it to change like when I was a kid and I'm looking out at other kids I was like why don't I have this I remember graduating and seeing the kids and their parents and being like, why me? And at every moment, it was like, I wish I could trade my situation for theirs. And now, fucking 26, 27 years later, 28 years later, I'm like, holy shit, this is the most beneficial thing I could have ever gone through my life. I would have never changed it for anything because all the people, all the conversations

that I've been able to have, the people that everyone to talk to in person, the people that I've been able to meet at expos, meet at my gym, talk on the internet about my situation, like to be able to reach those people in a way that I just would never have that ability if I didn't go through what I went through. Yes. And I said this early, but I want to say it again. I just think it's so significant that it's not like a, you get it, you know, a year after the thing happens, you get it when you're supposed to.

Like we're talking about earlier, you get what you need. That's right. And I'm telling you, man, without a doubt, like my life, I wouldn't change anything. And it's just so funny. I think about this in relationship to my mom because she would always try to bring it up. And I remember being like, that's a hundred percent something I would never want to happen. My life wouldn't be what it is without that in my life, without that happening to me. That's right.

And I'm just so fucking grateful. And it's so funny. And I talk about, you know, all these things with you and about your life, your childhood, your upbringing, like how it made you the man that you are and made you the person that you're highly successful. And it's like, I just want more people to know that the shit that they're going through, it's absolutely necessary. It's necessary. Like if you want to be interesting, right? I want to just successful. I know.

I know, isn't that weird? It's so true, though. The most successful people that I know all went through, you know, something that they didn't think they could recover. See, what's scary about going through something like, you know, a crisis, let's call it a flood, let's use a biblical term, where everything, we lose everything, is that you don't know if you can, you don't know how to make it back. Like, you don't know.

It's like, I love Teddy Atlas said the greatest thing when he said, you're not a doctor. until you got a kid bleeding from 15 different places in his body and there's nothing in a textbook that tells you how to save him and you save him anyway and you're not a fighter until your whole game plan gets thrown out the window and that dude across the way knows everything you're about to do but you still find a way to win and that's a great example for a life because you probably are not a fully realized human being until you prove to your yourself that you can make it through the desert. And I think that people say, well, that might be for them, but not for me. That's not true. I really think anybody can. I really do. I think that

it starts by telling yourself the truth and facing the truth. Really. Like face up to what got you here. Did you do something? Were you living a lie in one way or another? Were you the architect of your own misery, your own downfall, your own catastrophe? We are always are. Always. I don't care. I know that bad things happen to good people. I've had it done to myself. I know that there's injustice. Of course there is. But you're so much better off accepting the fact that no matter what, in one way or another,

you're the architect of your own misery. You know, you just don't get away with anything. You know, you don't get away with being lazy. You don't get away with lying to yourself. None of that shit, man. It's going to find its way. Yeah. So just align yourself with the fucking truth.

I'll give one example, right? years ago on the internet um this is a this is a dumb thing but years ago on the internet i got shit on by like some other guy because he could shit on me because my name was popular on at the time you put my name in a title talk shit blah blah blah shit on me and for the longest time after i'm like wow i can't believe that everyone turned on me i can't believe that everyone everyone was like from one day to the next i i could have put out content like saving grandmas from burning buildings and i'm saving babies and i'm like like raising the dead and i'm doing the the best shit you could ever think for and I'm and it's so true it's so genuine and that's the

content I made and then one day the next someone just makes up a lie and I'm this bad person and that crazy and I remember being thinking like I lost like 70,000 subscribers overnight like on YouTube and this one I just hit a million right yeah and I remember thinking like what is going on and I don't deserve this and I knew I didn't deserve it and I knew it to like I knew for a fact everything that was said was complete lie now I struggled so long about three years with that. And what I realized was, like you said, there was nothing I did that was like, okay, I deserve this. I knew I didn't deserve it. Rationally, did not deserve it, 100% lie, right? But the thing that I realized that I did that put me in that

situation was I looked at, and I've always been this kind of way in situations. Like, I'm very like, I can get locked on like a big picture. And I'm like, oh, the potentialness is so great. like if I can do make this content with this person and I got a little bit too close but my the problem wasn't necessarily it was being a little bit too close but also me looking at a potential situation without understanding all downfalls that could come along with it yes and I was I was naive to those things because I looked at only the good and and whether it's a good or a bad thing I don't know but it was the thing that I realized I looked at the big like oh we could be there we could do this cool thing and not realizing what someone else like where

their you know where their intentions actually lie the kind of person they actually are i overlooked all those things and obviously i learned a lot from the situation but like like you said i didn't deserve it 100 but i did put myself there i did find myself there yeah and you know by the way this is the other thing even if you didn't deserve it you got to understand that chaos it's just chaos yeah it's just chaos man i you know i i i do you believe in karma i don't know because well this person now was like really going through it i'm sure you don't get away you don't get away with lying about people yeah you don't get away with with with thinking that yours because when people lie about you they're trying to get something for themselves of course okay i've dealt with this i've dealt with

this even recently me too i've done i've dealt with that you know i've dealt with it in the worst way but what you realize is that i could be mad at whoever they're irrelevant they are that they just represent chaos chaos can come in a stray bullet coming a suicide of somebody who love it can come in accusations it can come in somebody making up a story about you online and they're good at it because they're artists of pain it can come from a thousand different directions a disease that just shows itself up and you've been healthy as fuck your whole life and all of a sudden you've got irregular cell division somewhere in your body and you got that's how it happens it's just chaos and I'm telling you now it's coming it's coming yeah you will not avoid it nobody gets out of this thing

alive you understand yeah so it's okay so that that's that's what I'm saying we know chaos is coming now who are you now who you are you yeah and that's why they all the Buddhists always tell you not to get too attached to yourself to like look watch this I'm going to do an experiment with you ready yeah do it so so this is this is a Buddhist this is a Buddhist this is a sort of the idea of you have a strong sense of self Bradley Martin you've worked hard to build yourself you've constructed a great self for the most part yeah i mean always working and you've dedicated yourself to something for lack of a better expression self-perfection you know that that's that might be your god right now it's not god it's it's definitely self-perfection and we all suffer from this trying to get

better type a guy man self-perfection perfect everything podcasting fucking strength uh you know dominating your field all that shit all good and and god bless now watch this now think about where are you hearing me from where are you hearing me from where does bradley martin start and end where is he try to locate yourself here yeah you think so is that where you're is that where you're seeing me from is that where you're hearing me here and here yeah yeah sure so you're behind your face well my i would say i feel it if i'm thinking about what you're saying yeah i feel it somewhere like in here is that where bradley is is that where you are well the truth is i don't know though I'm sitting here right it's very hard to locate yourself isn't it yeah I mean it's

really hard to locate you so you might be an illusion you might dude I mean who knows the notion of who you are where you begin the seed of your we know where you are physically we know that there's a cloud of consciousness right you know that exists in this this this this body of sensation right and temperature and pressure okay but when you try to like observe the observer when you turn attention in on itself it's pretty profound it's an interesting experiment that meditation contemplative athletes will do their whole life yeah they'll try to locate themselves but the idea would be the self might be an illusion there may no be no well you can't i mean you can't really when you watch have you ever seen those monks that were protesting in sagon protesting yeah

yep and they didn't you just heard you heard them breathe sort of like they Eric's left their lungs. That's about all that happened to them. Because they had detached from their body a long time ago. And they kind of observed themselves. That was one of the crazy things I've ever seen. That's the most warlike shit. You want to talk about it's like the old, the awesome, the awesome, the samurai who

would come into a town and he, everybody had to be out of the town, but all the food had to be prepared for his men. Otherwise, he'd hunt him in the hills and kill them all. And if anybody was in the town, they'd be put to death immediately. And then Buddhist monk is sitting in the middle of the, you know, in the road and the great the shogun comes up and he goes, do you not know who I am? You're in this town

and I'm the man who can cut you into a hundred pieces without batting an eye. And the Buddhist looks up and says, and I'm the one who can be cut into a thousand pieces and not batten a eye. It's fucking beautiful. You know, and that's a different kind of warrior. It might be the ultimate warrior. How do you get there?

Years and years of fucking meditation? Go to Tibet, bro. Yeah, you know. Go to the highest mountain? Yeah, I mean, that would be the idea. I don't know. I'm not there. that's such an interesting concept to me like living living a life like that yeah do you think i had lana rhodes on the podcast like a few days ago i just dropped it today actually but do you think that people are going to become more minimalistic over the years or more materialistic because like you know how we've had like everything kind of in cycles and fashion and life

and everything and it's been this like oh look at all my stuff for so long do you ever think it's going to get because we were talking about it she thinks it's going to come to a poor where more people, even of prominence, are going to be like, I have less shit and talk more about that. That's already happening. You know, I'm thinking about buying into a company. It's called toehold.

They make, they make... Macasins? They make flip flops. They make these, they make these fucking like... They make them... Oh, these are nice as fuck. Yeah. Those are handmade, okay?

Now listen. Oh, I've heard this brand. Yeah, they're killer. They're jujitsu brand, but they're... This guy sent me these because I was having problems with my feet. And there's a whole philosophy. behind those.

That's Herman Oak leather right there. That's the best leather you can buy. That's saddle leather. The more you wear it, the better it becomes. The motherfucker makes, you see that tuck under design? That's a Japanese design. He's studied with a master leather worker in Japan. But that's nothing.

You should see the work. If you go to the Tohold on Instagram or shop Toothold. Dotcom, I think is the website. You should, he makes shit out of stingray out of like, like there are a lot of animals like elephants that they have to call. The way they keep the, the way they keep elephant populations healthy and the game preserve is that they have to kill certain elephants that are injured or very old and then they sell the all the proceeds go back to the thing when they sell the the so he makes it out of the dude he makes

elephant skin fucking flip flops he makes saltwater crocodile flip flops what it's the craziest shit right but the dude this is why i'm thinking about truly i said i want to buy into this company i want to i literally was like you know where i'm literally nothing's been signed or anything but i'm literally in real talks i've never thought of this and this is the point i'm making This kind of leather that is, it's tanned with vegetable roots. It's tanned the old-fashioned way. Hermann oak leather is the best you can buy. You can't.

And the more you wear it, it'll never smell because the moisture gets absorbed and pushed out the sides. The more you wear this, the bet, it smells like you ever walk into a stable and you smell horses? You smell that saddle leather. Yeah. That's the shit that he uses. And I said to him, because I wanted, I was thinking about getting into the company and I go, I go, and he makes it by hand.

he's a he's just this fucking thick dude to just everything by hand i mean everything takes his time and i go like those got to be expensive then they're they start at 300 bucks okay okay and i said to him i go can we because i want to be involved in the company i was like can we bring the price point down to 150 and he goes never in a million years and he goes and i should put a note in it says you're welcome for this price yeah for this price you're welcome you're welcome and he will not compromise and he doesn't give a fuck if he sells one flip flop or a thousand it ain't about the money for this motherfucker he's in a three car garage that he converted into a literally a shop in Vegas he has a stand that says not made in china because everything is made in the united states

and this dude sources that leather and he'll talk about how it's like the paracord the copper divvets that the the the orthopedic core he's a fucking maniac he can look at your forearms and tell you how big your foot is he's got he's got a whole philosophy on feet he sent these dude i he sent these motherfuckers to me i'm getting the point about simplicity and bringing back down to earth yeah i was having problems with my feet planter fasciitis he sent me a pair of fliplops i didn't know him he sends me these handmade fliplop he goes this'll cure your feet i'm like no i got to get an orthic vehicle he goes i know yeah yeah zero drop motherfucker your feet are weak get your arch back to where it's supposed to be my feet are cured i am never i'm never i'm trying to buy into the company

whoa this is the best ad ever i know it's gonna i don't know if it's gonna happen but it's like it's everything i'm doing i'm trying to you have to you have to put him in your company this you clearly are the biggest fan of this shit ever i'm i am i said to my goal let me handle all the marketing i'll do all the marketing yeah like i'm doing it for free and i'm not even a fucking owner yet i'm i want i'm not i'm gonna leave this in that like i want this to happen i want this to happen Tohole.com, I'll send you a pair. I want a pair. Will you wear?

I'll literally wear these. I'll get you some fucking and I'll maybe put zoo culture. I'll have them do some bad shit. I'll do it. That'd be amazing. We have these dragon ones. You got me so excited. Dude, we got drag.

You got a salesperson. I know. We got dragon. They got black dragon. I said, I showed Rogan a picture and I just got this back. Dude. Yeah.

Dude, I'll make you, maybe saltwater crocodile. I'm going to send you some shit. I'm so fucking serious. And because it's, fucking and so for me so wait these really fix your feet like your feet feel better so you see how your feet you see how that's that so so i'm going to tell you something about feet that i learned from a podiatrist okay see how your feet what the fuck is a foot doctor so you see how your feet

you see how your shoes nike's all shoes bring your toes together they bring your toes together yeah i feel that problem is over years if you look at a real foot a child's foot is like that it's splayed the toes are spayed if you look at indigenous people who walk barefoot their feet are like that that's how our feet are supposed to be your toes are everything okay balance we scrunch our feet in a cast in a coffin all day long you got to be you take my shoes i know dude that's what you see how your feet are you see how your toes oh you're a thick dude your feet should be out you need fucking toe holds bro you damn your feet should be fucking spayed get a zoom in on these fucking feet you see that and and that's the problem so what

happens is look your toes you're when your toe gets pushed in like that for a lot of people it cuts off blood to an artery in your foot and you get necritis you get plantar fasciitis because this part of your foot the tissue will start to die it's not getting enough blood yeah and so and and and there are a whole bunch of reasons but when your feet are always like this and i'm on i'm in i don't have no archer no arches i said to my go should we had are can we put arches he goes fuck arches you know who he's never he's a name is a g gregaroff he's a maniac he's a fucking gangster he's a brown belt he's a 10th planet brown belt yeah he's a killer but he's a bad motherfucker and he is he's like fucking arches he goes these are not for everyone

dude there he goes he goes i go that's what i want to if i buy into this company it's going to be like these are not for everyone and you're welcome oh 300 bucks that's where they start you're welcome and if you don't like them fuck off go don't want you fuck don't want you because he has so many different kinds like he's got purple ostrich legs oh my god dude he's got the crazy shit so it's like they some people collect them people get upset them people get upset you obsessed and they collect them. They start collecting. And they're all handmade. Handmade, dude. Handmade, handbuffed, all that shit. Like, as in, as in with the, he's, he's, he wants to do brass now. He's like, these are bullshit. I don't like nickel. I want brass washers.

They cost to make, like the margin, they cost a lot to make because it's just all that time. And in his literal time. Oh, bro. Yeah. He's the only guy doing it. I was like, you know, we should hire people because I went to a shop. I'm, this is how interested I am in. the company. And he goes, no, they don't do it right. I, he will not compromise. Are there, are there any other, like, products or things that you were like this? Yeah, he makes handbags and shit, but no, but you in general, are there other things that you're this interested in? Never. Because I'm like so, it's like, never. I've never been interested in any. I'm not a fashion guy, but I love flip flops, dude. This is, I've slipped into these. How long did you love flip flops,

though? Since, uh, since toehold sent me a pair of fucking flip flops. Look at how it feels on my feet like you see that nooks and crannies like that that's a tiger and that's a boxer look at the fucking design he does i know man that's that herman oak shit so it feels like it's on my feet everything else sucks keep all your your shoes suck get them away from me this is it and they'll never break that shit that paracord is is 500 pounds oh you'll never break it yeah it's like a parachute the adhesive the adhesive is so strong that the leather will rip before the adhesive does he's a fucking maniac dude yeah yeah i'm a weirdo no it's sick I know there's nothing is there anything else you're like this crazy about like because the feet stuff

no no not not anything I own like I love the simplicity I think I love when I put them on they feel like truth because I know what that guy's about I know how uncompromising is and he's a craftsman who studied leather and leather work and has a whole philosophy around feet like most of your most of your knee back neck problems have to do with your feet come from your feet yeah so for me the fact that I cured my feet with these I'm a convert I'm a religious I'm a religious fanatic about yeah yeah like I I I I've this is a changed man I know I just talked about this I've talked about these twice on a podcast this is mine I love it and this is the second one I love I don't know dude I get nuts I get I just went a little crazy about flip flops this was a little

over the time dude it was amazing I'm sending you a pair no you definitely change your feet send me a pair but also this is bullshit your feet your feet are you're Bradley Martin these feet should be I should be like this yeah you should bro I want your fucking toes like that what the fuck is with your feet

I can stretch I'm stretching them well we gotta stretch your feet out bro yeah this is ridiculous but I need you I need you deadlifting in your toe holds fuck this

no I will I will bring them to I'm gonna bring them to this is gonna be the commercial if I buy into this company I'm bringing you a crazy expensive pair maybe maybe I'll make them out of saltwater crocodile but I think I want to make them out of that fucking leather

I'll deadlift 800 pounds in them I got you yeah yeah I got you awesome Yes. I can totally do that. You can't deadlift. 800. I can do it. What? No, no, I'm not letting you do that because you'll hurt yourself. But you can do seven. Why would I hurt myself? Yes, bro. That's so much weight. Well, I'm not going to hurt myself. I'm going to just do it. How much is the most you've done? The most I've ever done. Careful now. Don't get. Don't get. Don't get me nervous. Go on. How much? 805. What? Deadlift. You've, you've deadlifted eight hundred and five pounds. Yeah. That's so crazy. What about you? How much have you dealt with it? Like only, well, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, 8.15. Oh, 8.15. Oh, that makes sense. But with chalk. I had chalk and a belt. Oh, yeah. I don't use a belt. Yeah. Okay. So you're a little stronger to me. A little stronger. Probably about a hundred pound different. That is so crazy. Why? That's the craziest shit. Well, because that's weird strong. Yeah. That's the thing that I found most weird once I, once I kept going over time and seeing other people do crazy lifts. Yeah. Was the belt thing. Me not using a belt. Like most people,

I think like literally all people. How do you get that strong? Have you always been that stronger? You were naturally very strong right uh that's weird strong the thing i was naturally good at when i first started was the first thing i ever did i did like you know bullshit working out from football right yeah but i wasn't really crazy strong then i was like i was always really like wiry strength you played in high school yeah and then when i first did olympic weight lifting this is before i ever got really into like bodybuilding or power lifting but olympic weightlifting was actually the first like respect training yeah because you're an athlete yeah you're not just a weight lift I did the I did like literally Olympic weight lifting so I competed in that like I did the snatch

and a clean and jerk and I was naturally really good at that like being able to get into the positions you know like holding the snatch like overhead in the bottom position that hurt you being long it it it didn't hurt me I mean the thing that hurt me was it you know the bar has to go a lot farther so most Olympic weightlifers are much shorter it's because they can just get the bar up and get under it. Yes. So that's kind of why I got out of it because I was like, okay, like for me to be really, really good at this sport, I have to be fucking shorter or be like that much

fucking crazy stronger. I got very strong at it. But when you, when you asked me what I was good at naturally, I always had very weird mobility, like able to be in like a crazy deep squat overhead with the barbell. Like that wasn't normal. Yeah. And then when I translated and started doing bodybuilding, even as I got bigger, I was still able to maintain that just without trying to make.

is your vertical is crazy yeah well by so so olympic lifting is all just jumping yeah like that that the clean and jerk it's all like you're in that jumping position so it's all like hip strength hip explosion what do you think you'd weigh if you didn't lift weights or do anything well before so i started training obviously very young but i weighed around 18 years old i was 200 pounds so 18 years old i was like i was taller i was lanky i wasn't like really built um still big brones structure though big bones yeah i was always yeah i was always kind of like big what are you like like Serbian or something no I'm a mud I'm a whole bunch of shit yeah yeah mostly Italian you mostly Italian yeah just a giant Italian yeah I guess the fuck man I I'm Italian but my mother's five too it's silly yeah I didn't I didn't get that bone structure

my dad's weird but he's built like Frankenstein my dad wasn't very big my dad was like five 10 511 wow yeah I have other people I was just talking to some guys at gym about this other people with my family who are like six six like taller like cousin distant people but i don't know where i got the way right now i'm 250 but i've been dieting for the last like three months pretty solid so i've been getting leaner than i've ever gotten what's your philosophy on um on nutrition oh man um so before i ever knew that i was doing it um was intermittent fasting so i did it because it was just again i want to make this known i want to make this understood i didn't do it knowing oh I'm going to intermittent fast.

That was just how I ate. It was like I would do a ton of stuff throughout the day and I just wouldn't eat shit. I'd be drinking water, maybe have a little coffee. This is like my whole childhood even. I didn't eat during the morning. I was never hungry.

I wasn't hungry really during lunchtime. I only got hungry like pretty much after training. So if I trained like around like three or four o'clock, there's always like right after I'd eat. Because I knew that I needed to eat because I was like, I knew that enough basic understanding of nutrition. Like I got to get protein and after I work out like the most basicness. Um, but I always followed intermittent fasting just naturally because it just is how my body

function like I haven't eaten today right. Wow it's it's fucking what time is it two 15 I haven't eaten today I trained already haven't eaten I'll eat after this impressive um and I've always done that so I've always kind of follow that without knowing so just to give you guys like that's where I would start from that's where I've always been and it wasn't like because again I was oh I want to do intermittent fasting I heard about on the internet like it kind of came after the fact when people started talking about this being a beneficial thing for like longevity and life and and I don't even know too much detailed into it like actual studies and how actually efficient it is but I feel fucking

great and I perform fucking amazing. So there's a lot of anecdotal evidence there that like it worked for me. I don't know if it's going to work directly for someone else. But when I really got interested and I really got engaged and did I tell this on the Lana podcast on my dick. Yeah, I did. I did. So when I was 18, my dick stopped working. Wow. Yeah. Because yeah, no, Because I did so much physical activity, like I'll put it in perspective. I lived at the dorms at Desmond Hall in Sacramento State. Shout out the Hornets. Yeah, the Hornets, which whatever. Anyways, I would ride my bike after every single night I would do sprints on the American River, which is I could go right out the hall and like do sprints, wind sprints where I'd pick like, I'm going to sprint to there and then jog and then sprint to the next thing and then jog. I would do sprints like maybe 30 sprints, 20, 30 sprints, like to like just distance. And then I would go back, I'd eat like fucking cottage cheese, no fat cottage cheese, chicken, and like some like spinach, no fat. Right. So I was very under my fat contest. Very, very under. And then I would ride my bike, a BMX bike, like 30 minutes to the gym. That was 30 minutes away. And I would train for an hour, do 30 minutes of cardio at the gym, and then do 30 minutes of cardio back to my place. And then I was so psychotic that if I ate anything, I'm doing,

pushups in my dorm room. If I'm doing curls, it was to the point, and I told this on the other podcast, it was to the point where I would try to keep my abs tight 100% of the day. Like I was psychotic. It was something wrong with me. It was body dysmorphia and it said, to a crazy degree. It's neurosis. It's a form of, uh, yeah, it was bad.

Like, it was like, if I ate something, it's control. I was like, I got to go to the bathroom and do pushups. Otherwise, like, I'm going to lose everything, right? Yeah, so anyways. I got a need for control or something and all that. Yeah, it was fucked up. And then. but basically I remember

you know I have my girls coming over I'm 18 years old she's like coming into my room and like my dick is just like flaccid just like a fuck like this there was no getting up zero and I'm like what the fuck is going on because this was never like this yeah and I'm like I'm in shape I'm this

I'm so active how is this happening to me and then that's what I really like I was like I got to figure this out because I went to a doctor you know the doctor I had like my whole life and he's like why like why is your face so like you look almost malnourished and then he like recommend He, like, gave me like a, I think it was a Viagra.

He's like, to see if this works, just to see if it works. Just to see if it works, by the way. He changed my diet. Right, right, right. But I did it. And obviously that works. I'm like, oh, this is cool. But regardless, it was like, he said, I think you need to eat more.

So then I was like, okay, let me like figure this out because I'm so into training. I'm so into this. And I love it. I just didn't know enough. And that's when I picked up a nutrition book and was like, oh, you need fat. You need protein. Like you need to eat a amount. Like, this is necessary for the body to work.

So to answer your question. I'm pretty balanced with everything. I just follow intermittent fasting. Not always, not always, because sometimes it depends what I'm doing. But for the most part, I do intermittent fasting. I eat from a certain amount of time,

which I realize later on now in my life, it's I need to be better at eating more earlier because I notice if I don't eat enough during the morning time or during throughout the day, then at night I'm like ravenous. I want to get up in the middle of night and eat, which fucks up and disrupts your sleep, makes your quality of your sleep less,

and then everything else is a little bit worse. But yeah, man, I had a journey. So to what degree, there's that raising debate between it's the kind of calories you eat versus calorie restriction. Is it a combination of both? Yeah. So, you know, everyone goes like, oh, macros.

It's just if it fits your macros. Yeah. And there is truth to that, I think, for, for, you know, most people trying to get to a goal because it's like a, it's the macro. It's like, you know, if I get this many calories in, this many calories in, this many calories out, it is that simple. But there's obviously, like, if I ate 100 grams of sugar versus like 100 grams of potato, like a starchy or carbohydrate, like,

100 grams of sugar is going to affect me in there even though it's 100 grams of carbs, 100 grams of carbs regardless and say they're the same but different sources. Sugar is going to affect me much more different than eating potato, right? And then what do I eat it with? Like the combination of foods is going to slow down the digestion, the absorption, the glycemic index of things. So yeah, there is truth to like, okay, if overall you're hitting these like level of, okay, this many calories, protein, fat carbs, like, yeah.

But when you start to get to like a point where you're like you really want to perform optimally, I think you have to start, you have to not get away from calories in calories out because that's still relevant, but quality of calories is important. Yeah. It is very, very important. And I think people don't even understand foods that don't agree with them. I think a lot of people don't look enough at. Dude, nightshades for me. If I eat tomatoes, peppers, probably fuck you up.

Bro, I get arthritis. Like, I become arthritic. And I had a doctor said, yeah, right. And I go, yeah, I get soreness. I don't know what's going on. Like, I feel like I have to do an hour of yoga just to get moving. And she goes, You eat in nightshades?

And I was like, I stopped doing that in three days. My body came back. So people don't realize that. I think one of the biggest beneficial things someone could do, besides getting like their blood work done to see what's going on with like a full panel, they're in tonal organs, like their hormones, sex hormones, all this stuff to see what's happening with their body is getting like a gene test to see like what their body is like not liking, what types of foods it wants to avoid.

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But then if you start to get to a point where it's like, I want to really optimize myself knowing what foods work better with you and what foods don't. Because like there are foods that will treat you like shit. And there are foods that will treat you like you're a fucking king. Yep. And it's like if you really want it to optimize yourself, you would try to go further and learn more and learn more.

Most people just hear some gym bro shit on the internet. They're like, bet fucking weigh protein and fucking chicken and rice. And that can work for a lot of people. But there is a lot more to it when you really want to start to refine that for sure. And you have a whole philosophy on testosterone, on supplements on all that stuff, right? I mean, most of you guys know a lot about that shit. What's your, aren't there long-term ramifications? Like they always talk about what it does to your heart and stuff like that.

if you take, like, different testosterone. Yeah, I mean, there's obviously like, you know, when you talk about, you start talking about stuff like this, like there is, there is, it's a whole science. There's levels to it. Yeah. Just like food. Yeah. You can see it with like extreme bodybuilders, their face.

Everything gets crazy. Yeah. And there's, there's a lot of stuff nowadays that bodybuilders back in the day or just, you know, fitness enthusiasts back and they didn't have. We're talking about relationship to steroids. Like there's a lot more knowledge around things. But here's the thing that's crazy. Well, I want to talk about this before I get into it.

Um, There's a lot more stuff and there's a lot more health substances, a lot more things that you can do to, like, counteract things that are negative in that, in that whole realm regarding steroids, like typically, right? But the thing is crazy, and I've talked about this on a few podcasts, but it really should be talked about more is nowadays there's, there's these, have you heard of SARMs? No.

Okay. So SARMs, SARMs are like, it's like, have you heard of pro hormones? No. Okay. So back in the day, there's always. always been steroids have been around forever yeah and they've been studied forever and they work and they work so you talk about testosterone we know what's going to happen if you do this if you abuse this for that long right pro hormones back in the day when i was like 20 is like the thing now it's called

sarms which is now the trendy thing that people talk about peptides or no it's a it's a it's a it's like it's like a it's like a peptide it's a hormone and it's a selective androgen uh module like it's changing the way your body is like in layman's like connecting with these hormones in your body right to make it really basic and the thing is though those the problem that people aren't really aware of is yeah these things will work like steroids will work because like back in a day people would make these drugs just like now they'll make these arms to for people to beat tests like take a pro hormone instead of taking d ball you take this derivative of it and then it's like you're getting the same effect but it's not coming up on a drug test as an athlete right so it's like

it's you got the people who are trying to create these drugs to like beat test and now kids are it's like oh i can take this it's not a steroid yeah that's what's getting crazy yeah so it was like when i was a kid it was pro hormones and now nowadays people were talking about like oh sarms it's it's it's not steroids but it's like you're doing the same thing to your body of course that well i'm just i love technology and i'm just looking forward seeing what in the next 20 years with gene editing and all bro like like so like fucking like stem cell stuff they're going to come up with all kinds of stuff so you're going to live forever then we're I'm going to be fucking huge huge and live forever I want traps bro you're going to go from

170 to 200 I feel like you're the kind of guy who like you kind of always wanted to be jacked always yeah I can feel that I'll never be happy because I'm not built like you but at the same time you know I then I get philosophical and I'm like yeah fuck it you know yeah I mean the truth is you got a lot of great attributes anyways a lot of better one like you know being a comic because I know a lot of jack guys and they suck dude like they generally suck it's like a lot suck I know it's like all right bro You got all this weaponry. It's not, you know. It's like, and also, like, you get swept by like the guy who's older than you.

Look, dude, just, I'm just telling you. Just, I'm correct. Don't be so high up. You were too high. I loved it. But I was not. I didn't, I didn't mount you. I just went, all right.

You couldn't have mounted me. You couldn't. Well, I mean, on a mat, I think I would have had you a little bit there, you know, because you were making mistakes. Ge or no, gee or no, gee or no, we can run this. We can run this. We can run it again. No, no, you're too strong.

Who you're, you're too fucking strong. I'm not going to lie. I didn't want to hurt you. No, a guy like you can hurt me. It's like I fucked around with Matt Matreel and he grabbed me. And I went, Matt, I'd be careful because he was going to pull me in really fast.

And a guy like you were Matt with a guy like me, like I'm just, that's how I could break my back or something. Get hurt. You can't fuck around with a guy like you. You're just too strong. Yeah. Like there's big and I fucked around big and then there's weird,

strong and big and athletic as shit. I'm not going to, what am I going to do? At 55 and fuck like actually think I can fuck with you? No. But you got technique though. I got technique. Yeah.

I got technique. You did. You shocked because I remember that little bit got out. And everyone was like, you guys whip. I was hearing it, bro. I was hearing it for like fucking weeks.

You were fucking. Yeah. We were joking around. So do you do that often? Do you do BJJ often? I used to. I don't, not anymore.

I used to, I got into boxing for a long time. I love boxing. Yeah. I love boxing. I like fighting. I like the whole game. What do you do to stay active?

Now just tennis and weightlifting and I don't do anything. I teach my son how to box, which is my favorite thing in the world. How was your son? 10. Yeah. He doesn't have my mentality, but he's athletic and, you know, but I love it. What do you mean?

He doesn't have your mentality. He's 10, so he's just like, you know, he's not a killer. No, but he's such a, he's a comic. He's a natural comic. He's fucking hilarious. What do you think he's going to do? Comedy. Straight up.

Oh, dude. Do you so, I can see it. It's genetic, dude. Okay, I was going to say that. He just entertains the whole table. He's like, on, I can see myself. I'm just like this motherfucker. I can see him like trying bits out.

They're clumsy. They don't work. Then he, then he defines it. Yes, and he refines it, comes back. I'm like, I can see how his mind works, and everybody loves him, you know. He's going to be a good comic? I don't see how, I think what's going to happen is he's going to realize it might be the only thing it's made for him. And it's just the way it is.

Yeah, if it doesn't work out, I might be paying his bills the rest of his life. I'm the same way. I'm an idiot. What am I going to do? You know, comedy. I love that, man. Yeah. It's so, it's so, it is crazy how, like, genetically people are just,

Like that. Dude, it's nuts. I can just see it. Like, you know, he's going to be taller and like, you know, than I am. And he's a very good looking kid. He's got his mom's genetics, you know, but. Bless her heart. But he's like, oh, you know, he's just fucking like a puppet, like a marionette.

Like, you know, ooh. You have one kid. No, I got, I got three kids. Three kids. I got, yeah. What's our oldest? I got a daughter. I got a daughter is 14.

And she's, that's a whole other. She's, she's killing it. But she's just type A. Yeah. You know, never gotten a B. Never. You know, she just does everything. a three month old four month almost i want to be a kid i want to be a father so bad you will be and

you'll be a great dad yeah i thought about that actually when i was when i sat down i was thinking when you when you were talking i thought this guy's going to be a great dad oh i appreciate it you are because you are you're going to be a great dad you're going to love i can see you teaching your kid to do things you're going to learn all the things you've learned it'll be frustrating because they're not going to listen part of the hard thing about your kids they just don't listen to you they're like dad I'm like I've been alive for 55 I know a couple things yeah you know I mean you know my daughter my daughter won't let me help her on acting I'm very I know everything about she's doing her play like let me let me let me help you and she's like dad no no I'm not never in a

million years like why would you ask me I don't know anything about it it's only what I've been doing for 30 years it don't ask me well why do you think it's like that like the relationship that because it's all power dynamics that's why because it's power dynamics because in relationships kids, wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, it's always

some kind of a power dynamic. It's like, I'm not going to give you too much. You'll have too much power over me. And if I show

how much I need you, it's too vulnerable. Yeah. Right. But why do you think it's so hard for people to be vulnerable? Because like,

because they want their own sovereignty. Everybody wants to be their own island. It's way safer, right? It's way safer to not, like it's that, that lyric in that song.

I wish God would send me something I'm afraid to lose. lose. But it is safer, better, though. It's not. We know that it's not. At the end of the day.

Of course not. A good way to define love is when someone's happiness is more important than your own. That's a good way to define love. And that's tough, but it's also great. It might be the whole point, certainly for a father. Yeah. You know, it gets you out of yourself. What do you think is the most important thing you're trying to teach your kids?

Self-reliance. Don't take yourself too seriously. and most importantly learn how to learn get good at something i'm a huge believer in getting good at something i don't care what it is because that's how you'll learn about yourself and and when you get really good at something when you master one thing when you get really good the mystery of life will break down it you know so when you watch somebody who plays a piano really well that's a mystery right but when you take some piano when you watch a boxer in the way they stand they can hit like that. How do you do that? How do you slip shots and stuff? When you get in a ring and you do

that for long enough, you're not going to be a great boxer, but it's like somebody gave you a flashlight in the dark room and you were able to look around a little bit. You see a little bit behind the magic trick. And I think that's a really necessary thing because it breaks down the mystery of life and it allows you to not revere human beings, but to understand that there was a methodology to getting to where they got and you start to realize that the goodies in the world belong to you too yeah you know you know what i can relate to this is why i got really good at working out right hopefully people see that or understand that and it's so interesting that you said that and relating it to like everything else in life because i truly believe that and i don't

think anyone could really even argue this at this point because i thought about it so much as like literally everything in life is like weightlifting if you understand this right you have a problem you work on it it's painful you get better you come back if you want to get better and better and better you just keep dealing with it like you learn what doesn't work you learn what does work you learn what hurts you learn what doesn't hurt you realize a lot of times your body is how much tougher you are than you thought you were yeah and you everything about it is what you get from it is what you put into it everything about like even training for like a martial art it's like if you want to be great at it you want to be better at it you have to fucking you have to emphasize you have to put

time into it 100% and it's it's like it's literally you're you get what you give. Yeah. And everything in life is the same thing. If you want to be great at something, like, and this is the thing I always find so interesting. People will, like, message me like, oh, I, you know, I do this, but I want to do that. And it's like, it's always the same thing. It's like, dude, just spend time on it.

Like, how did you get, you know, let's say, let's say someone has, and I know this is hard, though, because the thing is, as a humans, we want everything at once, but you can't do everything at once. It's like, if I want the best relationship, I can't also have, like, the best business the best like finance the best everything you can't have it all right at one time like you have to work here you lose a little bit of this you work here you lose but and you start to get closer and closer to like that more complete picture whatever it looks like in your mind yep but it's like you have to know and like we're talking about before like being comfortable about being in like the the wave the drama the bullshit and also understanding that you just

have to put your energy into the things that you want to be better at and you have to also understand and sacrifice that if you're doing that focus and that effort energy somewhere else to be really great at it you're going to lose things in other areas of your life that's right and that's tough right that's the hardest part yeah but sometimes you got to remember like so so a lot of people have trouble with that because what happens is when you decide to be really good at something say it's black belt and jiu jitsu or learn how to play the guitar it takes dedication you know yeah start your own business and people go well you know you're leaving you're leaving you're leaving behind you're leaving people behind you're leaving your home

in a way. You created this home with these people that are in your, are like you. They're not that successful right now, right? But they're your friends and they're good people and you're all kind of like trying to get somewhere. Yeah. But then you really decide to get somewhere. You decide I can't be here. I got to go over there. I got to say goodbye to this, this situation here. I got to leave physically sometimes or definitely mentally. I don't have time to do the things we used to do, guys, because I'm after this, right? And it's really lonely and it's scary because you think, I'm going to leave these people, but I miss them.

But you got to remember there are a lot of people waiting for you on the other side of that wall. That's an important thing. And they're amazing. And you're going to go, wow. And it's almost like you get there and they're all waiting for you. Because excellence, when you, when you try to reach for excellence, there are some people waiting for you. Yeah.

And you'll be happy. Without a doubt. And that's. I mean, it's crazy. I think about this like you said that just maybe reminded me of leaving my home and like just moving out like I I moved away from home obviously when I was 18 I went I went to one year in college and I came back and then I went to community college for one year and then when I was 19 like just turning 20 I literally packed all my shit into like this little truck this little Ford Ranger that I had and drove down to Southern California with all my shit with a family that I met on Craigslist never never met them right found it on Craigslist pulled up and was like hi I'm the guy who's renting the room and I have all my shit. and I remember thinking like I have to I just have to do this yeah like I don't have to and I didn't have it there wasn't like a this is the reason why this is what you're going to do this is how it's going to go you just wanted to be extraordinary you wanted to be different like that's how I felt I was like I looked around it like what I looked around it like what normal people did yes in my hometown dude I'm gonna fucking die that's exactly how I felt do this dude I can't wake up and go to work and just at the end of the day my life is just giving me a number yeah no I want I want to surprise myself. I want to be an actor. I want to be an artist. I was so moved. I'd see movies and I'd just be so open, like, or I'd hear like the lyrics of a song. I'd be fucking

overwhelmed, dude. I'd see a great story, a movie and I was like, I'd be, it would change my life. I couldn't talk to anybody. I'd be so fucking moved and like just by what the song, how the song made me feel. How you felt it. Yeah, dude, because, you know, life in general is wake up eat keep your body temperature at a certain degree right because it's too high

you're fucking dead yeah yeah so you need a certain amount of food certain amount of clothing you need you know and then there's sex and then there's sleep and then there's food

and then there's pretty much it yeah yeah yeah and clothing okay cool and then like yeah I guess yeah and sandals they're not sandals

they're tall flip flops yeah yeah yeah anyway but um but then what happens is there are moments in your life that you hit flow, that you hit this, this state of high relief, this sort of, this point where you forget you're human, for lack of a better expression. When you hear

great music, when you see an amazing movie, when you truly have intimacy with somebody for a moment, and you love that person, and you forget you exist, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, it's almost like, it's almost like stepping into a new, Like you feel the breeze on your face because you stepped into a new dimension. You surprised yourself. You shocked yourself. You fulfilled that next jacket that was waiting for you in that, in that, you know, in that, you know, in that, you know, that thing.

And those are the moments we stay alive for. Those are the moments that are, well, that's called inspiration. Purpose. And that might be inspiration, purpose. And that might be where religious awakening comes from. That might be very well what people talk about when they say, I touched God. I saw God.

I think that's what happens when people take psychedelics. Because when people take psychedelics, what happens is they go, there's got, there's something more out there because I forgot about all the things I worry about.

I forgot about everything, including death. I forgot about it. When you took psychedelics? Well, that's what happens. When you get those moments. Yeah,

when you take a lot of mushrooms, when you take a lot, when you take DMT, that kind of shit. Have you done DMT? Yes. Okay, I'm afraid of that one.

Oh, dude. It's the, do the real shit. I did it with Aubrey Marcus. That's who, that's who that guy invited me to come do it dude do it with him that dude knows how to take you on a trip okay he took brend and i on a okay i got to do it dude i love obvi oh man he's dope as fuck i love him i haven't talked to him in a while i hope he's well he's he's doing good it's last i

remember he's doing good yeah but he um he took brend and i we did a ceremony i smoked that shit bro i went somewhere else and what was your experience like on that like does it you know i'm I'm a little too old to have a life-changing experience. You know what I mean? Yeah, you're fucking dumb. I did see sacred geometry and shit. I saw it all. But even in the middle of my trip, the deepest trip, I was like, this is very cool.

I'll be sober in a little bit and I'm getting on with my life. But I like that there's something out there. You know, I've done the mushrooms. I get it. But too old to, you know, see God at this morning. That's fucking hilarious. I find my inspiration and sobriety. that's okay but you enjoyed it you enjoyed it yes yeah yeah did you take did you take

anything away from it that was like profound i probably did that with mushrooms when i was much younger got it which forced me to change everything about my life yeah basically to stop lying stop lying yeah why were you lying we're always lying whether it's the job we're out we're pretending to like the the person we're with it we're pretending to like you know all that stuff that that's that's inevitable you're not going to escape that there's going to be a lie in somewhere in your life but then then you know and you're always going to have to adjust you're going to do things so you don't hurt people's feelings you're going to do so let me ask you a question that if you know the idea of always lying like kind of lying to ourselves lying whatever to people but

when do you know then you're not lying like when do you truly know you're not you feel it you always know you always know immediately you know everything you know everything that's the truth too you know everything i promise you do yeah you know you know exactly what the the truth is you know exactly and you know it immediately and you know it right now and it's like it's like that expression it takes five minutes to fall in love the rest is denial and people get divorced after 20 years over what they knew about the person in the first five minutes that's fucking deep yeah that's when it gets crazy it's also true because it you know that's where you key into the truth and you pick up on things and you go this doesn't feel right for a reason so I'm a big believer

in that's that's what that's my religion and that's that's my that is I am religious in that sense yeah I believe I'm fucking directly you can relate to that because I had a I had a very long eight year relationship and I remember like moments literally saying to myself very early on like as much as I loved this person once I realized it and I realized all the shit that I fucked up and made these mistakes and like allowed this to like you know kind of catapult and something much worse than it could have been yeah I remember saying to myself this is not never going to work and I still stayed in it for like six more years yeah dude oh yeah brother but like I I knew it I fucking knew it we all do you that is not that is not rare yeah that is

the norm what you just said that shit is the norm it hurts people you know many people walk down the aisle and with huge doubts and they're like well I'm here now I can't turn back happens all the time and then 12 years later they're like oh boy you know yeah what I get myself into. Yeah. Yeah. Tell the truth. Tell the truth. Let's get into some audience. I'm going to pee real quick. And then we'll get in some audience. So at the end of every episode, we basically take questions for the audience. Ask raw talk at gmail.com. If you guys want to get your question ends by myself and the guest, yeah, send those in, shoot those in. And then also on Instagram, you could DM us directly. It is get raw talk

at on Instagram. It was one of the best piece I ever had. I had you riveted for a long time. Until your bladder was about to burst. Let's do some questions. That's kind of weird. Yeah, we'll do the questions. Bring it. Okay, so. Sorry, go ahead.

Are you done? Fully ready. Okay. No matter how rich or famous someone is, we all pass at some point and eventually our names fade away. What steps are you taking to ensure that your name outlives you? And if you die tomorrow, do you feel, do you feel you left a better world than the one you came into? Love the pod. Keep killing it.

I mean, you know, I don't think that's how, I love that question. I appreciate it, but I don't even think that's the point. I think what you can do is make your immediate surroundings. Well, maybe not even that. What you can do is make yourself the best example you can make. That's all you can do. You just, and that's powerful. It's way more powerful than you can probably imagine or measure sometimes.

But sometimes like just setting a good example, And that's kind of the responsibility of being older is that you you have you I know things I'm not smarter than most of the young people I've just made I've made more mistakes and I've made the mistakes you're about to make. And so I would say that that setting a good example and you know life is one continuous mistake. So I'm never going to get it right. But I tried. Yeah, you know, that's real shit. I mean, you like me and everything that I've accomplished or people see as my accomplishments I was just doing things that I thought like would essentially make me feel fulfilled or happy and then along the way people are like I like what you're doing it's cool I like what you're saying I appreciate it's like I didn't go into it thinking I'm going to say things that people are going to like and appreciate it I wouldn't think like I want to make myself feel better about myself yeah so I think it's really important to know that like um don't try to complicate your situation with this need to like change the world or make the world a better place i think you just need to focus on yourself and like people will see that and it'll make that difference even in your small microcosm or your giant microcosm or fucking social media your industry whatever it is you just have to continue to look inwards and don't get cynical yeah okay i'm a tiny ann on a rock oh there are billions of galaxies joda's this shit i don't care you what you do has importance you know i don't

care about all that shit yeah okay cool great but i care about this right now this is important everything you do is important i saw this guy my buddy took a video of this guy who cleans toilets in uh keeps the bathroom clean in an airport and this dude that this airport he goes this the cleanest bathroom on the planet and it was that's a big deal he did his job with true excellence i think about it it changed my day everything matters made a difference in my life yeah so get the next one Thank you. That was a good question, by the way.

Yeah, I was. This one is asking about caffeine. The person was like, I don't really consume caffeine like coffee or pre-workouts unless like it's for pre-workout. Do you think caffeine is a good substitute as far as like losing weight and because it curbs your appetite and so on? So caffeine is definitely not the substitute to losing weight. Obviously, like there's more that goes into losing weight than just like taking something

that's going to slow down your appetite. appetite that there's a big benefit there for sure but it's more about focusing on the food that you're actually putting in your body like caffeine in overuse is also there can also be a problem for you because it's it's it's never really allowing yourself to your rest like adrinos to fully relapse to excuse me to fully rest to allow you to like recover properly like if you're just relying on caffeine to like keep you you know in this sense satiated or feeling of satiated because it's it's quelling your hunger you got to think more about your habits over all much more important like drinking enough water getting enough sleep eating the right food and like

trying to hit those marks as much as possible um that's 10 times more important than like drinking a bunch of caffeine and i would say like any supplement it should be that exactly it should be a supplement not something you're just like this is replacing this or that you know it's a whole big picture thing so yeah i love coffee i love coffee i'm always going to drink it yeah yeah moderation solid there we go that's it in moderation keep going um this question is asking what is one of your biggest fears like are you afraid of heights spiders or something like that not fulfilling my potential yeah not realizing who i could be that's my biggest fear it always has been not being as good as i can be and not taking the courageous path rather the easier path that's what it is yeah yeah i mean that's

I think I'm spot on with that too I just relate my relationship to that fear is it just in death itself because it's like not doing that and then I'm gone yeah you know and yeah yeah straight up that's your only fear

you're not afraid of like spiders or bugs or something I mean I'm not like I'm not like hey I want to pick up spiders and touch him but like I'm going to be like oh my god like this is a scary thing crocodile scared the shit Eric really fucking scare they're dinosaurs dude they're dude dinosaurs salt water crocodiles could give a fuck and when i see people in australia in the outback just just fishing up to their thighs or florida how do you think that's going to end yeah how do you

think that's going to end bro and all of a sudden the crocodile takes you it's like they're dragons without which is the one that's more aggressive crocodile alligator alligator alligator allocators crocodiles alligator usually are like i'll avoid you crocodile saltwater crocodiles you're food bro yeah yeah you're food they they love you nile crocs enjoy that. Salties? Yeah, no, I just, yeah,

that's just my, you swim in the water with a salty once. One. That bitch kills you. Yeah. Give us another one.

Give us another one. All right. So it says, in my opinion, you, for Brad, and then I guess it could apply to you

as far as, like, in comedy and so on. Brad is like the fitness guy on social media. So do you think there's anyone else in the industry of fitness that will take your place as,

And then with you in comedy, do you think there's someone else that will come behind you as well? Like, that's what the question is. I mean, there are a lot of people behind me and in front of me. I don't know if there's a, it's so much about like worrying about someone taking your spot because I don't think that's ever a possibility. Well, I mean, I think they're thinking of it as like in a sense of like, you know how like Ryan Garcia? Like there's the greats in boxing. Yeah. And then there's like, you see someone you're like, that one's going to be like the next big thing.

Dude, you took a shot to them. So I guess it's like something like that. Yeah. A few shots. I see what you're saying, yeah. Who's the future of comedy and who's, yeah. You know, Chris DeStefano is fucking great. Chris DeStefano.

Yeah, he's hilarious. Schultz, of course, is hilarious. You took a shot, you took hard shots. Yeah, actually hard shots. And you took, I think, four of them. That's crazy. We shot it once. So, you know what?

I figured out his game. Yeah. Because the first one, I was like, got this. Took it. But the second one, like, obviously towards the end, I was like, fuck. But the second one, like, obviously towards the end, I was like, fuck. But the second one. it was it would hurt more faster

shit because he filmed the second time I was like well that got me a lot quicker because I think the first time I took like six how tall is he my height 511 yeah he's about your height what do you think he weighs 180 maybe that much 170 what do you think he wears yeah I thought he said he was like 160

oh he's light light 60 but he can hit oh that motherfucker and he knows where to hit of course he knows exactly where to hit that's a guy who's been throwing his right and left hand since he was seven but uh I've never seen anybody take that you you are a physical freak it's that's freaky i can't imagine what you'd be like if you trained yeah like actually like a tiny bit of technique would go so far with you it'd be just so stupid you could

learn like three techniques and just be everybody to be in trouble yeah i think about it still man i think i got two more years to decide yeah i would love i don't know why you don't train jihitsu i mean i do it here and there and get in the way though you get injured and shit and it's just like yeah fucking your shoulder up yeah i don't know i'd love to do one of those influencer things but it's like you got to find the right one you know and then at that case it's like you're in a fight yeah but then in that case you're so much bigger than everybody is the problem so it's a lose situation yeah you know if you fight logan paula he's just so much bigger and yeah i don't know that'd be sick though yeah that'd be the best one but it's like you can't lose but then if you

win they're like well of course you know yeah you know i mean yeah it is what it is i feel like that's how i feel like that's how like jake is like trying to get his boxing career to a point where it's like you know, if he loses to like McGregor, then they're like, well, yeah, it's McGregor, of course. Which is smart. I mean, those guys are smart. Well, he's very smart in how he picks. So smart. I mean, Michael Bisbeek doesn't have an eye and it doesn't have, and literally has no knees.

Very smart. Yeah, but it's like, yeah. And I think Jake knows because he spars a lot and I think he's in the gym a lot. Like when you spar the way Jake does and Logan does, like when you're in there, because they spar with guys, real guys. You, he knows exactly where he is in the pecking order. He talks a big game, but he knows, and he knows. He knows that there are guys who you've never heard of

that'll do whatever they want to you in the gym. That's how boxing is, right? Those guys, and you're like, no, you don't know who he is. He's just some guy and he'll knock everybody out. Yeah. But that's what I kind of like about Jake. I respect that he's gotten in the ring. He really spars.

It's really hard to do what he does. Anybody who hates on Jake or Logan, like, it's very hard. you know you can pick apart his technique and it's very very hard to get that good that quickly because what it means is that he's in the gym sparring and getting hit and when you have to wake up and you have to go fight some dude who really knows how to fight you don't know if you're getting knocked out that day or if you might get your retina detached or you're going to get some CTE and he's doing it yeah those those boys have a work ethic without a doubt and they and yeah you know they play the heel and all that you know but it's

all part of the game yeah no i agree man crazy work ethic and and a ton of know-how to like fucking finesse like and they're athletic kids man they're kids to me they're kids but they're athletic guys yeah they're athletic strong you know i only met logan who i liked very much right away yeah he's a he's a sweet guy man and a humble guy actually he you know he's beautiful it's hard to be humble when you're that good looking and tall and and accomplished but they're they come from i think they come from a very good type like family with real values that's what it feels like yeah both yeah the Logan Logan's a real real nice guy every time I ever talked to him yeah one more question you want to do one more yeah one more for the road let's see I just

lost it all good I feel like you asked some of these questions like did you uh did you know we were gonna like that first question about like life and all I feel like we it was like related to our conversation almost uh no that one was like completely random and then some of them were like yeah i just scrolled through some of them um this one is specifically for brad it says you often still get emotional about your father's passing have you not come to peace with it yet yeah well this is it how yeah i mean this is the thing we talked about earlier like i was saying like i it just feels like yeah i'm way more at peace than i've ever been but like it's still something like in my heart that I just can't it's like I can't stop from feeling that yeah like

straight up I mean it's not like it was when I was younger like my confusion around it is different now because I have a much greater sense of purpose in relationship to like you know everyone listening and like watching this stuff and watching me over all these years and like you know talking to people in person being like I watched you since I was fucking 14 and the things that you taught me I'm this man today and like looking at me as if I'm some father figure like that's full circle for me so it's like I could be like, wow, that never mattered, but yeah, there's just a part of it that no matter what. It's like there. Some things are sad, you know.

That's like the one, that is the one thing. Yeah. But at the same time, I think this is important. I wanted to say this earlier, but I didn't say it, was it also gave me so much perspective in that I know that I can deal with. You know what you're talking about getting out of anything coming back. If I lost it all, come back and do it no matter what. I know that that's true because this is the thing that I realized when I was younger. I was like, I'm never going to go through something harder than that ever again.

Exactly. And that's the thing that I've been like, holy shit. Like, if I can go through that, the way that I did, I can go through anything. Yes. And that's what I've learned from it. So, you know, it is still. That's a huge gift. Yeah.

God. That was the best thing I ever learned. Because that's another way of saying that is that you know you can rely on yourself. You know that you can get you out of any situation. Yeah. That's a big gift, dude. that that that is called that's sovereignty that's independent yeah we've solved a lot of problems today we did that was it want to thank you guys for listening yeah yeah i you know what it's like

i feel like we need to get you a pair of moccasins well because you became that guy i think we need to get you a pair of toeho flip flops and you're going to be deadlifting i want to see you i will i will i want some sad leather i'm dead i'm dead serious i want those i'm i swear to god i'm i'm going to have i honestly saw when they came in i was like i want these i'm going to sell you i'm going to get them for you you already sold me 100% of these i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna but i want to show you the options because we got dragon we got coy i'm saying we i'm gonna fuck my feet up right now i know there you go see that look at that your poor feet put them in a coffin free your feet man but that's it i love you guys uh subscribe to the fucking youtube channel check out bryan and all's

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