RAWTALK - BRYCE HALL VS RICEGUM

Episode Date: June 4, 2020

Two of the biggest tik tok stars Bryce Hall and Josh Richards stopped by to give me the tik tok 101 course! As well as discussing Ricegum drama and their future goals with all this!

I got two, I think of the most popular TikTokers. Yeah, we're definitely. Yeah, we're popular. I'm not saying, like, from what I've looked at, right? Yeah, we're. Two of the most popular TikTokers. Josh Richards, Bryce Hall. What does that mean?

That's my first question. The first question I have, because this is like, and I'll explain this as I go on, TikTok is like the craziest shit I think that's happened to the internet in the last, like, fucking 10 years. Yeah, 100%. um what does it mean to be a fucking ticotker because you guys are number one right quirky ass dancer and you have to lip sync into the camera

looking all sexual and shit no I'm kidding there's actually there's no there's no recipe to be a ticotker it's like if you pop off you pop off and then so this is what's interesting to me like like how do certain people pop off and certain people don't I think it's just if they have something new to them or like different from everyone now I'm gonna fucking argue with you guys about that's a that's a pretty bad example because we all look the same okay yeah yeah

but we have different personality traits yeah you know what I mean like everyone in our house has a different kind of character like they're not characters but everyone has a different character yeah okay I get okay I understand that makes sense the thing that's so interesting when you say like we're all obviously you guys are different completely different um the haircuts might be similar whatever we'll let that slide is the interesting thing about TikTok that I've noticed is that some people get popular like the thing on tic-tok is doing things that are popular and then people just regurgitating that there's no creative content there's no like creative around it it's just dances it's like choreographed dances and then i'm not a freaking dancer i don't know how to do

this shit yeah but you know how to dance i've seen your fucking ticot yeah a little bit like i'm just dancing at parties and then like some of the dances on ticot kind of like yo at the party so okay this is so first before we get more to this. You're 18 years old. Yeah, I'm 18. And you're 20. Okay. So many, there's like so many questions because I've been around and. Oh, dude, I've done a lot for a 20 year old.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, Steve, you, you, you drink before you should basically, which is fine. Like, it's, I drank before I was 20. Yeah, I just, I kind of, I put it out on the internet so that I think the idea of exposing, especially having like a primary female demographic, cancel culture is super popular in that era. so if I put out all of my flaws and everything that you can expose me for then you can't get exposed okay so that's that's fucking it's almost like damn it's like six nine it's like what six nine is doing right now just talking shit about himself so because he knows he expects it right but so you have mostly a female demographic yeah 100% it's like

80 87% yeah mine mine's 80 20 that is that across all socials because obviously you do you too YouTube, I have a little bit more of a guy famed. Like, I have 35% male. I think mine's like 25%. 25%. And so TikTok is like, what did you say? Oh, TikTok, I think I have like 15% men. Yeah, mine's like 13%.

Okay, so this is so crazy to me. Obviously, like, we're way different generations. My demographic is like 100% opposite. Yeah. It's like 97% dudes and like no girls. I don't know my TikTok because I can't see my analytics yet because I'm not as popular as you too

but everything else is the same so there's this so this is why I want to ask how do you become TikTok famous are you just a good looking dude is that part of a recipe you know it really sucks

but yeah it really it really does dude just flex into the camera a little bit I'm sure you'll get some follow but see he's different guys like girls might be like that's too much you know really no I feel like there's like a skinny guy thing

on TikTok a little bit. Yeah, maybe that's why I'm not as pop as Josh. This guy's great. Listen, before you came in here, I was looking at his Instagram. I was like, what the fuck? This kid gets like a million likes on a fucking phone. Like, now this is crazy. I really want to talk about this too.

Like, you, like, okay, how long have you had social media for? Specifically you? Me, it's probably been about three and a half years. Okay. So flashback three and a half years, you're how old? You're fucking, I'm terrible at math. Yeah, I was about 14. 15.

Okay. okay so i'm about to be 31 this month right when i was that age none of this existed like none of this existed like even when i started doing instagram there wasn't it was like youtube was around that was popular um but instagram like i think you it was only photos and then it was like 15 second videos then it was a minute so like this is all different right the thing that's really interesting to me is like how did this affect your childhood you guys are like almost like childhood actors right i've been doing this since i was 14 so this is crazy like i was 14 i was riding bikes hurting myself yeah there was no i'm opposed that like it didn't

exist it was just like the internet was a thing so this is like when you were going through high school did you have followers um so i actually started my social media in the summer before freshman year if that makes sense like okay so i had one video that blew up the day before school started and i absolutely got toasted on my first day of school because it was musically back then which is even worse. Oh yeah. Musically was shit. So musically was TikTok, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got bought by Byte Dance,

which is an Asian company. I don't know why there was ever this trend of musically. If you don't know how musically works, it was like you film it in slow motion and you kind of like move your hands with the phone. It's such a stupid concept. You have red nails. Because everyone's going to talk about it right now. Okay, guys, I have red nails. A girl painted them last night

while I was asleep. Wait, who was it? It doesn't matter who it was. Oh, okay. One of those. Yeah, he wants to do that. Yeah, this guy, listen, before we go on, Bryce is a little crazy.

I know Bryce had a few experience with them. The Nuck Boys, we pranked you in fucking Miami. He got my ass crazy. He actually, you helped us with the last prank on Taylor. Yeah. But, yeah, man. So I want to talk more about this fucking, look at this guy. This is how, oh, he, oh, you turn it off?

Yeah, I'm turning it off. Damn. I wasn't trying to have any texts going on. Okay. So, you're, you're, you're, You're fucking 14 when you started this shit? Yeah, 14 years old. So 14 years old, that's before freshmen.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, because I was born in January. Okay. Or I was about to be 14th. So you go to school and what's, what's, like, what's your school like? I went to a public school. Okay. So it was a small-ass town.

I lived in town of 18,000 people. Where? Outside of Toronto, town called COVID. Oh, you're from Canada? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Okay.

That's why, you know, Bryce is allowed to drink. I give him that Canadian. Yeah, yeah. That's what, like, he gives it to me sometimes. I see. So, like, in Canada, it's 18 or 19, depending where you are. Okay. So before your first day, you go to school, people are roasting you because you filmed

musically? Yeah, there was just like a lot of like slurs and pushed in the hall, maybe or like nudged in the hall. Yeah, let me just put it out there. Don't, don't, we're not hating on it because like, hey, I would hate on myself too if I saw myself back then, like myself now looking at those videos, I cringe. Yeah, it was brutal. If I wasn't doing it

And there was a kid doing it Probably would have made fun I would clown You know people cringe on you guys now Oh yeah For sure Oh yeah we don't think we're not Not that I'm saying

Oh no we're cringy as fuck So it's crazy like So what do you think it did though Because like you're you're so Like to get a million likes I've been doing Instagram for like fucking forever Like since it started 2011 It started early October 2010

Anyways You've been I mean I've never gotten a million likes So like you're at your age I couldn't even imagine because like when I was that age my my like my thought process was so different about who I was or where I wanted to be or what I wanted to be or what I wanted to achieve all this right what is it like how has that affected who you are how you relate yourself to the rest of the world I mean I tried to you can like Kylie Jenner likes it's weird he just fucking responds he just like I mean

I'm just famous as fuck no I mean I can blow me so no it's seriously like honestly I honestly I can answer for it. Dude, we honestly don't think about the likes. We're just enjoying what we do and just having fun while doing it. Yeah, we just try to film like us being us or like the boys being boys kind of thing. Yeah. And then if it gets views, it gets views and it just has been. So we've just been continuing with it.

Do you think it's because of the app itself? Oh, TikTok. Yeah, no, TikTok has pushed all their social meetings. When I started blowing up on TikTok, that's when my Instagram started getting likes. That's when my YouTube got views. This is what I want to talk about. to this is really interesting because I look at it and I'm like as a creator I've been doing it for a while I'm like how are some people converting from TikTok and other people aren't that's that's a huge thing there's only a 10% conversion rate would you say like most creators only 10% of the actual pop and creators convert well I've seen this as I've seen like there's a few girls like there's Charlie the sister Dixie um you guys but like why do some people why do you guys being obviously in the position you are why do you think some of you convert well To Instagram or to YouTube.

You know how there's like, there's content creators that show their full personality? And then there's people that are 100% playing a character. Like, it's super clean, like, no, I mean, no hate on them, but people are like, like, like, like, like, he's, do you think he's really doing those skits in person? Like, that, that's obviously aimed at like a younger demo and all those videos go viral, but do you ever see like a diehard Brent Rivera fan? I don't know.

Yeah, it's like, oh my God, oh, Brent, Rivera, I love your content. Like, it's like, there's not, there's people that are viral, or they're big just because their videos are we saying fuck Brent? No, no, no, no, no. I don't know. I don't know, no, I respect, I respect Brent. It's like, like, what he's doing, he's making a shit ton of money, but I could never personally do that.

Yeah. So what's the difference? Because I don't know enough about it. I'll be honest. So Brent Rivera, like, does, like, like skits, but like the, like with his family and his friends, but like, um, but like, um, um, um, but like, um, um, um, um, I don't even know how to like we'll touch hands and then we'll make eye contact with like the girl and then it's like when you do this with your crush like got it yeah yeah those two videos and then we try to show our personality I feel more like and

and we'll cuss and all that stuff like we we don't try to hide yeah we're badass because we cuss so yeah oh no but I'm saying like we don't censor ourselves is what I'm trying to say yeah like everything we say is just like what we think and then people that end up liking us they like us because our personality so they're going to follow us everywhere instead of liking us just for our content so then they just see our content they're like oh that's cool this is interesting how do you think you learn that do have you watch other creators

do that like yeah because I used to post the content like Brent Revere when I was younger because I was signed to a management and they were making me like they would review every post before I posted it they pretty much controlled my social media and then I was like this isn't me it's kind of boring I hate I hate doing social media so like this TikTok phenomenon man

like because it's interesting right it comes it came so fast right would you say no like insanely oh like way fast that i think that's why a lot of like YouTubers shade us and like talk shit on us it's because we like pass them so fast and we're not trying to like make this like a competition obviously i actually brought you guys here to beat you both up oh shit we were making jokes about that i was like imagine like rice gum in the whole phase gang is there and he's like wait the you have probably well phase i'd be yeah phase kind of roasts like a few of us and then me and rice can work kind of beef right now really yeah I just made a video on him today kind of roasting the living shit out of him yeah he did actually

yeah that's a now here here's the deal what I know about Bryce I'm just gonna we're gonna go back to what we're saying guys listen what I know about Bryce is he's low-key kind of crazy for sure I've been around enough where he was drunk and like he he's just like you're a little wild you're fucking wild like he's trying to wrestle me he's like bro it's rustle I'm like I don't want to do this I don't I don't want to do that for my channel. I don't want to wrestle you, but. You asked them probably 20 times that night.

Bro, yeah. It was so funny. I was like, yo, this is a bad idea. Because like, you gotta, you gotta expect, right? If you're gonna do that with me, I know that people are gonna put their camera on. So I would like have to, I would have to hurt you. He would have to. Like, I wouldn't want to, like at all, but I would have to go hard.

I think that camera's fucked up right now. Which one? This one. I'm looking at the mirror. No, see, look over there. Look. See, so look, go through him. So they see, look there, Josh.

Now, boom. Oh, okay, okay, just making sure. I just didn't want one of your shots to be like. No, you're good. So, so Bryce is crazy. I think, I don't know, does Rice really want it with you? I don't know. That's what I was like saying.

You're a little crazy, bro. The thing in my video was, I like, he was clowning me for saying, hey, let's shoot paint balls at each other in the chest and the prize is your ex-girlfriend. And I said that as a joke because his ex-girlfriend, like, said I was hot. Talking about Abby. Yeah.

Okay. She said that like I was attractive in a video. And I played a couple of videos. And a couple of her videos. Yes. Oh, yeah. And I played those and I was like, oh, man. So would you crack that?

Would. Wait, Brett. I don't know if it's a. Shut. Whoa. No, yeah. We're just friends. Oh.

That, okay. Yeah. I mean, that wasn't like insinuate. That was. Yeah. Okay. We could just change the time. I mean, he's fucking.

This dude is putting you out right now. You really are. You were like, oh, Josh is a potter. So I was like, hey, I'm going to have to lay one on rest. It's all good. It's all good. All right. So look, is it actual beef?

Yeah, for sure. Based on what, though? Just because he said some dumb shit? He lied. He lied in a video. Like, he completely made it look like, you know, Taylor Keneff? Yeah. So Taylor Kinev, DM, my ex-girlfriend, not Addison, but L, like my very old.

Oh, this is right you did at Addison. This is so fun. It's like the TikTok. The TikTok. The TikTok Kings right here. So he, like, DM'd her, and I messaged to him saying, like, yo, don't do that. Like, I was in that jealousy stage, like, full of testosterone, just like, hey, oh, fuck you pussy. Like that type of shit.

You know we were broken up at the time, right? Yeah, we were broken up, and he deemned her, and then I posted, like, the screenshot, because she showed me of him DMing her. I posted it on my story, on my close friends, and I added him to it, and I said, you know who you are, you're a bitch, and then he, like, swiped. You added who? Taylor Knoff. Okay. And Rice Gum took out everything and just told. about, I think the video standing at like two mil plus views now, told everyone that that was my

current girlfriend, that was my girlfriend at the time and Taylor couldn't have fucked her while I was dating her. And I was just like, dude, like you act like I'm, yeah, I was like, you act like I'm just not going to respond and show like the whole thing. And I did. And I showed everything and now he looks like an idiot. Yeah. And I, and the only reason I challenged him to a paintball gun war is because that's like the only thing that would be honestly fair to a point where both of us could get hurt, you know? Yeah, because what are you gonna do fight red it's like what hey Rice do you want to fight did like box do you want to arm wrestle like what do you want to do like I'll do anything but like I thought that was just the fair middle ground you know so then so if you don't get those things that you're gonna you're making a disc track or what oh I'm job I want to drop this track on him so he it's just kind of dope though yeah he kept I don't know if he writes it I don't know how he doesn't he doesn't write it but I think just his voice on a track like with that monotoned manner that he talks in It just sounds really whack.

And I kind of, like, got into that in my video where I was like, dude, you're not a musician. You aren't. Like, you're a YouTuber and now you're trying to train. KSI already did it, dude. You can't, you can't do it again. You can't just got it. I did a good job. Yeah, I know.

It's like, you can't do that. Like, you're not a rubber, dude. So, do you have any beef of anybody? At the, I mean, there's like old beef. Like, we made a disrespect on a kid with this kid in Chase Hudson, like Charlie's A little huddy. Don't know him. Yeah.

Yeah. He's one of the popping kids on that. He tried to, like, fuck me. my girlfriend so while he was dating charlie yeah oh so it was like a double yeah yeah double whammy and that shit so so just do so which which are like the popular ticotkers live in l.A basically all of them really i think all of like the popular popular ones yeah they live in lay yeah yeah yeah i don't know like besides like the demilios who go back home to yeah yeah like uh i don't think there's really anyone that's pop and popping that doesn't love that in illa okay

that's good so you think you need to be in l.a to be popping no we were actually talking about like moving locations completely like we want to buy land in texas yeah texas is live bro i'm not gonna lie i love that time that time that oh so fun texas is fun that's awesome and we need land and it's middle ground it's like it's like if we want to go east coast it's only three hours if you want to go to l. you know you could also go like little north of l.a like Santa Clarita and get like a lot of land like if you wanted to we're buying we're getting a new house in um calabasasas that's right down the street yeah i know we're moving out of our old spot yeah so the old this is the sway house yeah the sway house so how many of it how many people

are in that house uh seven yeah there's like six people that were first introduced to the sway house and then we have like a new kid we called freshman quentin he was at uh he was he was in texas so he was he's only 16 so all those kids who were there as i was there and i was like we went to go prank these guys all those kids who were there they're all popular ticotkers no a lot of them were actually like Texas friends of Taylor because Taylor's from there. Yeah. I'll only ask you is I was randomly looking and I saw the um the guy with the cowboy hat who did like the crazy flip thing. Oh kale kale yeah he's popping and he was popping and he was popping so then I was like were all them I didn't know. There were a few though there was like there's definitely yeah there was a few

of them there but like not everybody it was like probably there's probably 10 TikTokers there 10 to 15 yeah so the other ones besides you guys in your house are who named them so it's Sam Hurley Kayle. You asked who's in our house? Yeah, house, house. Oh, I thought you were saying. Okay, Jaden Hossler, myself, Josh, Anthony Reeves, Griffin Johnson, Kiosir, and then now Quentin Griggs.

Yeah. Quentin. Griggs. That's the one that was in Texas. Yeah, he has like the blonde dyed hair. Not Jaden. He kind of looks like Jaden. It's so funny.

He has the blonde hair? Yeah, like it's all brown and then. So like everyone. So basically like half of the sweat. Oh, yeah, he had an earring too, a necklace. Oh, did he have, was it like a low taper to like a moppy hair? Yes, yes, yeah. That's crazy.

I've never, it's like. Yeah, maybe wearing some rings, something like that, painted nails. Interesting. Might have been red painted nails. Yeah. Dude, it's crazy. So, so here's the thing, right? When you think of like making content, right, you've made TikToks, you guys kill that.

It's easy for you guys right now at this point. I mean, yeah, we can film TikToks pretty quickly. You should do like five. We don't put time into like thinking of ideas. TikTok YouTube is like where we actually like try so TikTok you're just like making whatever you want yeah 100% yeah and so YouTube is is that the direction you guys want to go in because I'm always like where do you where do you guys go from here we we are the people we're the two in the house that actually like really want to do YouTube yeah okay we're on like the YouTube ground for like

the sway boys essentially okay so you're gonna have like a like the how I mean I guess everything that's happening in the house you guys all have to continue to make content together yeah but then there's like some people in the house that like just don't make content on certain platforms and then like we're the ones that are like carrying and it's kind of annoying but we still do it we still love them yeah like i think everyone has their different like area they they wanted like jaden's an exception because he's like he's making music so he will post like once a week on ticot and then no youtube like no snapchat barely posts on instagram's like he'll just promote his music and then so like but he's

musician so it's different and his music's actually like fire yeah like it's it's the best music that's coming from a social media influencer right now that's for sure really yeah i haven't heard it so i can't say i'd be honest though if i heard it can is there some on the internet yeah should we just pull some up play play comit to us yeah pull some up i think it's like hey bris let's you yeah we were stalking you guys oh yep is this i just watch it i'm just like holy shit like i watch your things i'm like they're just like he like went in his side yard and was like film something for fucking 20 20 15 seconds and it was just like All right, I'm out.

Two, three million views. Yeah, like, how the fuck? Like, did it start like that? No, not at all. Like, we'd barely get, we'd get like 100K views and be like, yes. Yeah. Jaden Hossler. Yeah.

J-A-B-E-N. It's right there. Top one. Oh, man, it's that one. Jaden. Comatose. So, 6.5, man.

You know, I met, yeah, he was there. He was at a party. Like, just watch like this, and you can just tell he's a musician. Like, this music video itself. this is when he had no tattoos now he's a full sleeve two months ago he had no tattoos scroll up a little bit so we can see the full screen is that not up oh no no oh that is the full screen yeah there you go oh it's like a I thought it was I thought he was gonna try and rap no no this is like oh this is dope yeah he's like rock dude

dude oh this yeah he's an actual musician like he's he's going to he's gonna blow up huge this has next song you know what his next his next song i'm calling it right now this is on video i'm gonna say 15 mil plus views on youtube you know what's crazy about this like this is so i think i could say why i'd be like i also believe you when you say it's gonna blow up this is so edgy field oh yeah and also it's not like the typical pop oh so i mean everyone's like they do YouTube and then they try and do rap yeah or they do to tick talk musically and they're trying to be a pop singer yeah this is sick this is like a this is like a whole different vibe still softish I had no idea he did music like that when I met him oh no dude he always is

he just got the final version of his new music video that's coming out angels and demons that is probably his best song so far oh my god what's that puppy oh my god hold on what's Go, come on, go, go. Sorry. Just eats us. Just jumps on us. Okay, so, none of you. None of you guys are trying to do music.

No. Not, at least, like, not serious music. Like, we can, we'll go on, you know, like Cody Coe and Noel type shit. Yeah. Like that joke shit. Yeah, that's, like a little dicky type shit. What kind of content do you guys want to make on YouTube mainly? You go first.

Okay, I'm doing, like, fast-paced action-packed. like I'm not afraid to do anything call out anybody if they like talk shit to me first like I'm just like I'm not giving a fuck basically but like a lot of action packed fast pace comedy comedy comedy stuff yeah for me I mean you can say comedy most people I mean some people think it's funny yeah I do a vlog so I do like two vlogs a week and I'm doing mainly just like the boys like trying out different shit so if it's like we order pit bikes and rip them around or if it's It's like something with the paintball gun like shooting people like I got Jaden high and then he tried to shoot stuff off my body with the paintball gun without me. So like vlog lifestyle shit. Yeah.

I mean that's kind of what both you are doing, I'm assuming. Yeah. Yeah. But like our videos are different. Yeah. He also has like this series on his channel where you know how drama alert covers all like the YouTube drama?

Yeah. He does TikTok drama. Yeah. So it's like T-Talk and it's popping off. Oh, I saw a, I saw a tweet. I thought you were just joking and saying it was like a new TikTok. Oh,

but you said it's a T-C. This is like I'm out the fucking loop, man. I'm fucking old Matt over here. He calls it T-T-Talk. It's a genius city. He's going to eventually turn it into a podcast. Yeah, that's happened to me. Oh.

Yeah, it's going to be like probably like 30 to 45-minute podcast and then cut up 10 minutes. So what's the, what's like the newest like drama in TikTok? I mean, the newest one, the newest one was probably me and rice come because I posted that video today. Yeah. So that we're going to talk to about next week. And then I mean, last week we talked about it. So does Bryce, hold on a second.

got to get a click click bait fucking ass uh title right here does bryce hall want to fight rice come i i don't think he would like i would 100% down like i'm down to fight him but like it's like i know why would he's the underdog like you and you you wrestled right yeah yeah that's why he wanted to fucking wrestle me and uh he's like bro i wrestle bro i know but like you're you're big but like i wrestle like i'm fucking strong though bro like i want to try it no i'm so Little lit, bro. You wrestled him? Yeah,

it wasn't good. He just knows how to, like, move his body weight really well because he's... I also wrestled Jeff. He's huge, too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. How huge is Jeff? Who's Jeff?

Jeff was like that, the black guy that was shirtless, just completely chiseled at the park. But he's not huge. He was tiny. He's like 170. Oh, I weigh 260. Oh.

Yeah, yeah, huge. I'm like, I'm talking, you're talking like a 300 pound, dude. Yeah, like, I'm only like 150. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, bro. Oh, shit. I can just fall on top of you

You'd be like stop Stop just stop He's like no you can't get up So so you have the most fun making YouTube content then Yeah 100% yeah Do you have any like long term goals Um like five years 10 years?

It's such a corny question yeah What's your five year goal I hate that because I think it's stupid But yeah I kind of I mean like I want to do I want to either host like a like a show Kind of like Jimmy Kimmel type shit Or I want to be like one of the The comedy actors that are in like

like, you know, the hangover or S&L, like those types of things. I would never want to be like a, like a serious actor. Yeah. But I don't think Disney would have. I mean, I'd probably be on Disney. You guys are the new Disney channel right now. I would be on Disney. We would never be able to be on Disney.

No, Disney would never. No, they would never. Who are the most Disney-esque TikTokers? All the girls. Cody Orloo. Oh, Kobe Orlo. Yeah. All the girls.

And then the few guys. Which guys are the Disney TikTokers? Yeah, it's like the, who else besides Cody and Jeremy? mean all of them are all of them are see you know what sucks though there's like this there's a stigma that all ticotkers are fucking like lame like pussies just like that shit and it's like we're in that group but like it's it's hard to it sucks that there's like people like that on the platform and then like we get the whole name where it's like oh you're the ticoters your pussies it's i mean it's an age old thing this is going this no matter what you

guys do you're always going to get lumped into some shit yeah but like as long as you guys make content that is genuinely like the shit you want to do eventually people will see all the other sides of you like you guys talking about making your content about who you are like you'll always be able to like the true people who really matter like fuck all the outside oh fuck this guy because like if i didn't know you how i know you i would have been like oh i look at your ticot and this kid's a fucking pussy right 100 but but i know you in real life and i've seen you in certain situations like without cameras on like how you act like you're like you're like a badass kid appreciate it's dope it's dope to me and I'm not saying like kid I'm just saying

kid because I'm fucking older than you right obviously you're fucking you know 20 whatever right he's a kid yeah this motherfucker's a kid bro 18's a kid I just turned 18 I just tripped so hard when I think about that like my life when I like there's no having no social media just trips me out like I didn't and you guys are like living in it yeah you're like this generation that's like you're literally growing up in it so I guess I was kind of I just kind of asked you this earlier in school because I've always think about this like do kids who get more likes are they they're just the popular kids not even close not even close well actually it's like more likes within the school

district you know so it's like if you're getting likes from random people and like I'm getting oh I'm not getting a thousand likes but they're random people that just kind of follow you because you're attractive they're just like oh you're just fucking you're pussy so okay so it did I thought for sure that like if you had if you were popping on like the gram or tick talk whatever that's how it used to be for sure in high school but but like if you you get clout versus likes i don't know i feel like it's very different especially if they see the content i also feel like content is only cringy when it doesn't get likes you know like imagine like brent roberra was making videos and they weren't getting millions of views you'd love to bring

up that guy down yeah that's i don't know you brent my bad he's the only example that i can use without like he's the perfect example bryce hall wants to fight rice gum brent reverer who else we got who else we got call it some more people yeah so No, I'm kidding. Wait, wait, wait, who's that, Jordan? Oh. Wait, what? There's his NBA basketball player, dude.

That's, like, low-key shading me. No. Yeah, dude. No, there's no way. He's trying to get at Addison, and, like, there's... You know who it is, huh? You saw the head turn, he was like... Ah, he's a big...

He's a big, uh, Lakers fan. Oh, is that what team he's on? I think he was on the Lakers at one point, if you just said it. Did you think what he was in? Jordan Lewis? Oh, no. No, I thought it was Clarkson. Oh, is that his name?

Jordan Tucker, Jordan Tucker. I don't even fucking know his name. What teams he played for? I don't even know. I mean, he's apparently well known. Yeah, he's supposed to be good. Yeah, he's like really good apparently. But he's like really shooting a shot with Addison.

And Addison is just not giving him the time of day. And I made like a joke-ass video. And she kind of like on TikTok. Okay. And like everyone's commenting like, you lost to a TikTok boy. And I have never personally responded to this kid. I've never even spoken about it. This is my first time actually addressing it.

Okay. But I've never said his name. I've never, like, talk shit. But he just keeps trying. Like, he's like, this kid's got nothing on me. Where's he saying his shit at? I don't get it. He has Instagram stories, like, on everything.

Yeah. How old is this? It's a basketball player? Yeah. How old is this guy? He sounds like he looks younger. I know, he looks like probably like 22. Yeah.

Oh, okay. But he's like, six, eight. So I'm like, yo, what's up? I'm going to talk shit? I feel like your dumb ass would fight anyone. Yeah, yeah. I probably would just pick him up. You would, man.

What's that? Is that him? I know. Jordan Tucker, what team is he on? He's a college. So this is the one talking... Oh, wait. Yeah, that's him.

That's him. So he's not in the NBA? No. Oh. So a lot of girls like him on there because he's a good. Oh, okay. Oh, so that's all... So he's not actually good.

He sucks. No, imagine. I just start shitting on him. He's fucking terrible. Six, seven. Yeah, guys a little bit. Does he look, look, Addison right right there. Ooh.

Okay. I don't know who, man. It's a fucking obviously. He's really shooting his shot. He's really shooting his shot. shooting a shot i'll give it to him he's got like he's he's persistent how come he's how come he's not cracking it i think because bryces are playing tender on on that man like he's not getting by oh wait so are you still dating addison no oh we're just really good friends yeah how long you've

known her for since october so like but we started like talking in like november and then we kind of ended things like early february and then we were like kind of kind of like you memorized all about like you guys you guys make tic talks together yeah did you do the renegade together i don't even know how to do that dance really did you know how to do the i don't but i know you do i really don't i've seen you do it at parties you're like that that's the only fucking move i know and you guys like oh you know the maryg okay maybe yeah i mean listen i don't know how to fucking do it i was like i'm like loki going to make a ticot where i'm i'm you do all the ticot dances right no where i just look like i don't know where i just look

like i'm gonna dance them out like so wouldn't that be a me i'd be clowned i i i troll the dances that's like why like i think people like me it's because like i don't take any of it seriously yeah like i'll i'll do a dance and just fucking crackhead energy just crazy like bro yeah i was what's his name came to my gym today jason derulo oh yeah yeah so he was talking about because he had recently started blowing up on tic talk through making just like yeah he's filmed with all the pop and ticoters yeah i've seen that um is that like is that how you become popular now yeah you film with all the pot you want to film a ticot no i don't I can't damn I can't even do it like literally I like I would I would just stand there

and then we were joking about it I would just stand there and be like no I can do this dip off I mean sometimes we just stand there that's yeah we're just like and I can see why people hate us yeah yeah what when we speak about our content sometimes I'm like I'm like oh I guess I can see why guys hate us we're like we're like why do why are guys are fans we're pretty dope guys and then they're looking at our videos and I'm like oh I can see why actually so do you do you make content like that because you know it's going to do well then now uh yeah because like i post my old shit it does well because it's just like wild shit or crazy shit or like wow factor shit and like i i could almost i'm almost willing to bet that my audience is probably

exactly the same on ticot as it is everywhere else so i know i have more guy fans there just like all my other platforms why don't you make more content that's like appealing to guys yeah that's what our youtube's about okay and then we try to post like clips from our youtube yeah like our youtube yeah like our YouTube and our Instagrams like they're they're pretty good it's just the TikTok that's the what's with this kissing each other thing I don't know if you guys do that no no that it's like kissing the homies it's like that's a it was like a viral trend it was like a Twitter thing it's like I don't know why but like gay jokes are there's nothing wrong with this shit I know not at all nothing I'm just like I saw that and I was like because I again bro like I don't I'm pretty certain

I think you're not gay because I've seen you in certain circumstances where I'm like Or you're talking about certain things out of my holy shit No for sure I bet you're talking about the one on my Instagram I kissed like all the homies And then and then the last one was Addison Because I was like I wanted to troll it because I was like Everyone was always so curious They're like yo I've never seen Addison and Bryce like

Kiss like they're all upon each other But they don't do anything and then like I was like I bet here's my New Year's kiss and then it was like Five guys and then just Addison is the last slide So was it like a viral thing on TikTok? Yeah that picture went pretty crazy too Yeah but no it was a weird viral turn on TikTok Yeah no it was

Yeah. What makes a fucking TikTok viral? Just something that just catches my honor. I think like a couple million. Because like a lot of people get a million views. But like when it hits like three million, I feel like that's like, oh shit. And then other people will start doing it because they're like, oh shit. That did well.

Let me do it. Yeah. So who started the fucking renegade one? That seems like the most popular one. Some random girl. Yeah. I don't know her name. But Charlie made it popular.

Yeah. So this girl did it. And then Charlie like did the dance and it just, she used that dance. That's kind of like what was built with Charlie was the renegade. Because I remember looking at it. Charlie I don't know when I first saw her on TikTok I don't know if she had like nine million on TikTok she gained 10 million like what in like two weeks okay so yeah I remember looking back right I looked back and I was like what the fuck and then I went to her

Instagram and I was like what the fuck like how that's what I'm so interested is crazy how does it convert so damn well like that's the thing that's really interesting to me yeah because I see I see some TikTok creators that get like millions of views and then I look at their Instagram they have like 100k yeah I was like I'm like how is that even possible Yeah, and how do you get a million likes? The fucking... What are you fucking... What are you doing?

I'm posting the same pictures as... Dude, it's bullshit. I don't know. It's just my girlfriend. Oh, yeah. That got me a million likes today. His girlfriend did get him a million likes in six hours. What's your girlfriend's name? Nessa.

Oh, okay, so that was the last post. Yeah, yeah. But no, you had a million likes without her in your photos. Yeah. You were just sitting by a pool and you had a million likes. What the fuck, dude? I don't even know. It's like the TikTok, like, supporters go crazy.

I find, like, when you... They're so active on Instagram for somebody. You're acting like everywhere. Like on Twitter, too. Twitter is... Dude, it's just... I'm acting like an old man right now, but I swear to God,

when I was 18, I would have... I probably would have done the same shit. I had long hair, just like him, curly. Just know, you motherfuckers. And then you're just taking shirtless pictures, like...

Yeah, I was doing the same shit. Like, I almost want to pull up one of those fucking old photos of me. You know which one? Okay, this is great. He's Steve knows. Did you get the perm like Bryce or not?

I don't have... No, I didn't do... I just had curly hair. You'll see them. I literally looked exactly like a TikToker. Like if I was 18 and TikTok was out, you fully shaved? Bro,

I would have been a famous TikToker. Watch. Oh shit. This is all obviously not this shit. We do look like that. Yeah, I mean, that's how Jacked I am, right?

Yeah, so that makes sense. You could find this. I know you're going to find it though, Steve. I believe in you. Yeah, yeah. I have like a, something in my fucking hand. I was in a college dorm room.

You're looking for that one, right? Does Google like, yeah. You will get it in a sec, but, so this, this thing like where where you there it is that okay but you can't see that if you saw my hair like you see it to the side

I had curly hair you literally look like a tic-togger I'm a fucking tic-toker pull that up pull that up look on huh okay look that swear to God I had abs of the the serratas has a muscle on the shoulder I was wearing a chain that's a TikTok thing dude holy shit he was located I got no chain on it but see like at that age

none of this shit existed yeah you would have been a famous ass tic soccer damn crazy yeah some wild shit so so when you're like fucking 18 and you're like i'm a famous tic i get like a fucking a million likes what do you do so this is because like i know a lot of people wonder this shit they they wonder this i kind of have an idea because i'm in the industry but people outside of the industry how do you make money okay yeah i get asked all the time for ticot because there isn't like monetization on the app yet right but you can go live on ticot and i mean that shit's crazy you make a lot of money off of

livestreams, but that's not even like where the most money is. People pay, what do you the fuck did they pay? It's like Twitch. Okay, okay. So same, same thing like, as of any brand deal. We do like TikTok sounds instead, so it looks organic. And that's the best part. So it's like we'll use a song and we'll get like 10, 15K.

Just to do this thing. Just for a little 15. I didn't know about that. I know about brand deals, obviously. I know you guys can get brand deals. I didn't know that there was like, yo put this song in your TikTok and we'll pay you. Oh yeah. Like a lot of our because that's how so many songs are, I mean, blown up now is they become viral on TikTok. Absolutely.

Everyone just starts listening to it. Like, what's that? Roxanne was huge by Arizona. Is the Renegate song? Whose song is that? I didn't even know. He wanted to come over and I just didn't know it like that. But no, no, no, he blew the fuck up from that song.

What K-Camp song? There was a K-Kan song that was super popular. Yeah, whatever. Just like, it's mainly like the baby. I hear DeBaby a lot. Right now, for sure. Yeah. Loosey sometimes.

Lozzy. So are like the music companies are paint or like, they're like, yeah, it's a music company sometimes, dude, you should see our DMs, dude. Our DMs are just rappers and like musicians like put put. They always start off nice. They're like, yo bro, your TikToks are dope. And then we're like, oh shit, Louis-Vert. And then you're like, yeah, what's up?

And then you want to use my sound? Use my new song. It's like a total copy and paste like DM that he sent a show. And then you're just like, ah. Fuck. And he's like, yo, I'll repost you on my story. I'm like, I don't care about it. that dude yeah it's crazy man how much power the internet has like given to individual people

like who make the content you guys right yeah like the content creators it's like it's nutty man like the fact that because back in a day if someone like that someone who was a big time artist making music came and hit somebody they'd probably be like i'll just do it just because you're this person but now it's like you understand your value at least you guys do i'm from talking yeah no there's definitely some tictokers and it'll be like oh yeah i'll do yeah i'll do for like a hundred dollars and it's like and don't get don't get don't get me wrong

don't think that all TikTokers are making like a shit ton of money there are some that are like literally struggling like like I think we were struggling this summer dude yeah we didn't have money like everything would be like

all right this time this person pays for food and like this time this person tries to get like this whatever combo meal and like we were all like split in it so and we're definitely like this doesn't sound like good but like we're making good money

like now yeah and we we have definitely vouched that we will never be those like fucking typical rich boys that just start flexing ever like I don't think I'm at no matter how much money I have I look at it in there

maybe at a red carpet maybe at a red carpet I'll wear something like dope as hell but like never walking streets dude I dress like this so I've got a question based on you saying that like because that got really popular like people flexing like I mean these whatever shoes but these are free

yeah no no all good all good it's not that crazy right but like remember at one point on like YouTube and Steve you probably remember this too a lot of YouTubers like they they had like Gucci this Gucci that like they made it a thing Rice Gunn was one of them at one point

he was I'm not at all I'm just it's interesting like why do you think like you're popular now why do you think you're not going that route is it because you saw that that I just like first off these people are obsessed with materialistic objects like you're not going

die with these things like you could buy something that's so much more valuable like even even times like a vacation or or like a house yeah like buy a fucking house like you're not none of these ticotkers that are making money now are thinking like oh shit i'm gonna keep this revenue flow for the rest of my fucking life i'm gonna be 50 making tic tic tics do you think some of them are i think like well that's what i think like breast you're like you got to talk more into the mic oh shit yeah you're good just turn it towards you yeah there you go i think that there's a lot of ticoters that are like, oh, I'm going to be making money forever on these lives. So if I'm making $1,000 a day, like, I'm going to spend $1,000 a day.

And that's their biggest problem. That's a recipe for disaster. Some of our friends have done that. So how do you guys learn? How'd you learn that, like, because you guys are young as fuck. When I was fucking 18, I, I mean, I wasn't a fucking idiot. I wasn't like, I'm just going to spend on my money. I had a hard time making money, very hard time.

But who taught you, like, how to treat it this way? Did you have any influences? I went broke after having money. So I've been in social media for a while, like not popping, but like, you know, I had, I was getting like 50 to 100k likes, which is pretty good. Yeah. And I at one point had like 50k in my bank account. I moved to L.A. with like 3K in my bank accounts. I had three months rent.

Yeah. And I was like, no, and mom, trust me. I got it. I got it. I'll make money. And I move out at like 17. And I'm going, I graduated, by the way, so I don't get on me, by the way. So I move out with 3K in my bank account.

And then literally like a month. month later so I had $2,000 didn't make any money and then I went on a tour I made 50 grand for this tour for what it's to me it was just like yeah who paid you for that though the tour hey the tour I'm not going to say this or did you do you say yeah you say whatever it was and I got 50K for that and then I was like okay I just made 50k never experienced taxes oh yeah that was so so I was like I never knew that I was just like I just made 50 fucking thousand dollars you kidding me I want to go spend it literally was the first thing you brought up first day went to Gucci went to

Versace bought a Versace 4,500 dollar watch bought like a Versace robe I bought a Gucci backpack and swag and a Gucci belt all in like a matter of two days you probably looked like the biggest douchebag yeah two days two days and oh yeah how that make you feel and I felt cool I felt cool for a second and then I moved out because my manager like fucked me over hard yeah like at the time stole money for me and shit who so I moved out went to Vegas and I had like about 10 10 to 15k left yeah and uh rent was like 2k and then I got sued for defamation of character and I went to who the fuck sued you for that um my manager because I said it online oh even though it's true and I had the proof the bank statements and

everything and we settled in mediation I ended up spending all my money and I went broke completely And then taxes hit And I was broke Like I was already broke And I was already broke And I was like Are you kidding me? Like what the fuck?

Yeah I remember that So then once I went through That entire struggle Like that Like experience of literally Being scared shitless Not getting any brand deals

Not making any money I was making like Two grand a month off of YouTube maybe Like It was just like a scary time And then that's when I was like Why am I spending fucking money Like why am I doing that?

Yeah And yeah That's when I Have you ever had any experiences? I mean, my parents were always, like, good at saying, like, don't spend it. That's how we live. Like, we live, like, you lucked out, bro. Yeah, I was just lucky.

My mom told me that too, but I was just like, mom, don't, I was just like, this summer I was on tour, kind of the same thing as him. And I was spending, like, I was probably spending like 5K a week, and like, that's a lot of money, right? Yeah, yeah. And I was kind of, like, that was for, like, maybe like a month long. And I looked at my bank statements or whatever, and I was like, damn, like, 20K gone just like that.

And I kind of took a. step back i was like fuck i can't be spending money like that yeah i bought like a few like louis items or whatever and then i was like all right i'm down with that we're still spending like a little too much like we just from fucking postmates though okay okay now listen this we get food okay is the one thing i'm not saying you should do it because you should just fucking cook your own food it's gonna be or or if you guys even came together and got like a house chef you guys would be way way better off but food is the one thing that like i'll always spend money on no matter what That's the one thing I actually spend money on.

Like if I, if I, obviously I should be eating more food. I should be cooking more food. But like you've got, I mean, it makes up like your body. Makes up how you're, your fucking attention span.

Like there's so much to how important food is. A hundred percent. Yeah. But obviously all this other shit is fucking bullshit. Yeah, but we've been pretty good mainly because it's quarantine. So we haven't been able to go out. We've just been spending money on like Amazon.

We bought just like these three bikes, these pit bikes. They're fucking dope. Yeah, but that's for content. so that's like that's like a little bit investing yeah you can even use that for like a tax rate off dude yeah for sure definitely it's funny how do you know that it's like i was 18 i didn't know any of this shit i just remember i made my first million and then i spent the fuck ton of money and then the

government was like yo run me that 400 000 and i was like what it's exactly like your situation where i was like no because i remember i always heard her stories about taxes and i was like everyone always talked about how it sucks and i'd be like who cares who care and then the minute that they were like yo you owe us this i was like what For what? No, like, I struggled. I remember it was so hard to make $1,000 a month at one point in my life. When I was your age, exactly.

Make $1,000 a month fucking broke as fuck. Like, I lived in a house when I was 20, yeah, 20 years old, 19, 20, like right in those years with like fucking 10 other people and like struggled to fucking eat food. Like was buying fucking top ramen eggs, like hot sauce on bread. Like that's what I ate when I was like 20. Like when I was your age basically. Broke his shit. Like, and I would ride my bike to a 24-hour fitness and train, try and train. This was at, in Anaheim.

This was the 24-hour fitness. Shoutout, 24-hour fitness, even though you guys suck off of Lemon in the 91 in the Anaheim. And I would, it was like the hardest place in the world to sell personal training. I was a personal trainer at the time. Hardest place in the world sell personal training. Like everyone was like wanted a deal. No one wanted to spend any money. And so keep in mind, this was fucking 10 years ago.

Broke his shit had the hardest time making enough money to just. just like pay basic rent and like eat and that's basically why I dropped out of college because I couldn't even pay for like the tuition shit anymore and I was going to Cal State Fullerton this is down in Fullerton like Anaheim area so I didn't know any of that shit like I think I realized the tax thing the money thing literally when the government was like yo where's our money after I made a bunch of money because it was like making no money to making a fuck time of money what was the push that made you like realize like oh okay now this is how I'm going to start making money me yeah uh I

tried a bunch of different times prior so like i think around like 200 sorry 600 000 uh followers on instagram i tried to sell apparel and that was the first time i ever tried to like make some apparel shit it was like uh at the time my my brand uh called being fit it was it was like team being fit it's set on the back with like a hashtag that's what i used back in the day and it just had like a little being fit right here you remember those little being fit right here and then i was like oh i'm gonna sell all these no problem did you did you did you not sell that well i didn't sell i sold 12 of them my first merch drop dude that's in that was all my money 600 000 i was like no problem and i remember making content about i did a little giveaways and

shit sold none of them but then at some point yeah i mean i kept i kept true to what i was doing and the thing that made i think the biggest change in my life as far as like being able to actually sell um apparel was the message that i start to try to deliver on youtube that was the biggest thing making longer format content like i always used instagram was like oh you know you know not i guess at the time it wasn't swipe up because you couldn't but i make posts and be like yeah link in the bio but it started to really hit once i made content on youtube where i was like actually speaking and talking to people like this kind of content but it would just be me standing like in a field talking about my life and where i've been and what i've been through and what i'm working on or

fitness shit that i was teaching people about and that was when when i started making that content like where i started really talking to the people who are watching me is when like then when i try to sell again it was like whoa what the fuck i've never seen money like that my life like yeah that's how we started youtube that's when our merch went like yeah like we we dropped merch back what was it december december and it did like did terrible i think i got a total of like 20k sales 20 k's in sales and and like we just dropped the still softest just for reference at the time how many followers you have on Instagram and TikTok? I had a million followers on Instagram. Okay. And then TikTok, I probably had two mil on it set at that point. No, dude, I didn't even move in with two

mill. Oh shit. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, so yeah, no, I moved in. I mean, I had a like a 1.3, probably 1.3 or 1.4 million. And I dropped like this party. They were dope hoodies. Party animal university like 20 K in sales. And I was like, what the fuck? I'm getting like, and I was getting over like 100K likes. And I was like, this didn't sell shit. And how many did you have on TikTok. Like probably 1.5 to 2 mil. Okay. So I just want to make this point, right? That's what, this is what's really important. It's for people watching and listening. Like

it's, there is a lot of people out there who don't make good money doing any of this stuff. And they may look like it just because they have followers. But it does really take like that little extra bit of like giving your personality, which is the craziest thing. I mean, it makes sense. But you guys said it earlier in the

podcast, the kind of content you try to make that it's just like us being us, period. Like that's what's really, I think, essential and i think people fail like you talk about brent and all these people who like make these like characters characters and it's not really them so there's like a disconnect between them and the people who are watching them it's just kind of like a i don't know something on like a pedestal versus someone who like oh i could see you in person be like yo what's up i like your content right yeah um i think that's one of the biggest thing that that that that platform for being able to

actually make money like if you're if you're just sharing who you really are because then people are like yo i really fuck with who you really are and if it if it if there's no like gap there's no skip because they see your content here they see your content here yeah they might make fun of you on ticot because like you're like just a pretty boy here but as long as there's like there's there's there's congruency with who you are across your platforms then that's when you really start fucking being able to monetize it properly yeah and it's like it did show like honestly when we started posting on youtube that's where it really like it started happening like we dropped a still softish merchant that was stupid there was a dish track like it was pants like this that said

still softish and then it was a hoodie with a crown. Wait, the pants said what? Still softish. Still softish. That's the name of the district. The dude took a dick pick. Like over your dick right here? Still softish? It's because like the one were dissing, that one were dissing took a dick pick and then he sent it to a girl and he tried to say it was still softish. No way. Whoa. This is funny. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. I never heard. Tell me this story. So, so the guy that we made the disc on that like tried to get with my

girl, he sent that he got leaked, like his news got leaked and he sent it a dick pick to this girl and he was trying to say like it was still softish because he was like trying to justify it justify yeah so then we were like you know it'd be funny as fuck if we made pants saying still softish yeah and the the hoodie that's fuck the hoodie with the crown was like kind of a subliminal shot yeah it was uh everyone calls him the black king or wakonda king like wakana king because he he said the end word like and he's white and he's white so everyone just trolls him it's not even more to the point that people are offended anymore that just troll them because it was funny and that's what we were doing it was

like we had the black king and that's a black hoodie with the king and that's sold yeah oh yeah that's actually this is hilarious yeah still softish oh our our new merch that's coming out is bro that's so funny though yeah I know we were like we got to make it jokes as fuck like the fact that he was like oh but that's still soft that's still softish don't worry yeah yeah yeah we've made we've made so many jokes about that too and our lives and stuff like just like oh guys you know we just were worried about all the people up there that have like they can't get hard we're just trying to help them out and like make a message for me out there some people just stay softish so

rep the pants stay softest boys and girls you know it's funny man it's funny like so do you guys have as far as like other like merch stuff is it just like how are you going to further it how you guys think you're going to like push it further like obviously you can't always be jokes we have some big uh that we're doing together should we say it i mean i've already said it yeah go for it we're we're starting an energy drink oh oh and Energy drink. Yeah, and it should be active in, like, or live around August. Yeah, something like that.

Like a can. We did, like, testing flavors and shit. Yeah. It's called Annie Energy. Annie? Yeah, like for animal. Okay, okay. Not like Ann Frank.

Yeah, Annie. I mean, A&I. Oh, and I. Anna, A&I. Yeah, it's going to be dope. But we're doing that because we do a lot of, like, shotguning clips. I don't know if you saw like in, even in Texas, like the shockinning. We usually don't do it.

I've seen a shotgun, bro. Yeah. We usually didn't do it. I taught Bryce, by the way, if you want it. sure we usually did the um the the shotguns with red bulls or like another energy drink because like people try to match our energy because we like in videos i know right now it's a podcast we're sitting down not doing like anything but like when we're in front of the camera when we're doing like our action pack shit like nobody can match the energy we have because we just

fucking domed uh and energy drinks is a fucking psycho yeah i know so yeah but then now like when our energy drink it's like hey guys look at this dope ass energy drink you should buy this Yeah, this is sick. Use my coat. No, you're not going to run with codes. No, no fucking shit.

No, we're not going to do no bang energy stuff. Yeah, the bang energies. Like, it's not even supposed to be like, it's not like Bryce and Josh's energy. Like we're building a company.

Yeah, we're not, we're not even going to promote it as our energy drink. It's just like, it's just going to be a drink in our videos that we use to get energy. Yeah,

it's dope. And it's called Annie. Yeah. Okay, dope. What are the color schemes? Black and red, right? Yeah, black and white or something like that.

That's dope. Yeah. You guys partner with someone on that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know long drink? Have you heard of long drink?

It's like this alcoholic beverage, but it's owned by Miles Tiller and Evan Burns. Evan Burns. So that company, the one that distributed that can and like that, that drink is doing it with us. Right on. Yeah. I know that's a, that's a great business, but I know it's also a tough business because of the margins because of shipping weight and all this shit. I'm sure you guys, he was explaining the shit to you. you. Obviously, I'm not going to go into detail

about it, but that's fucking dope. Thank you. I appreciate it. Anything else besides? Well, the deals, like, he just got, it's so funny, we made the disc track. Yeah. And there's actually, like, labels hitting us up. They're like, hey, we'll pay you X amount for, like,

10 songs. For you to drop this on our label. Like, they want to, like, sign us to their label. But, like, for joke music. Yeah, we're also debating on that. Like, it's, it's like, we don't want to be a musician. So it's like, if we did do that, it'd be, like, some joke. Because we're not like talented musicians that like we're just like we fucked around and like did some shit in eight hours and it was jokes as fuck and then people were like oh shit and I don't know why I don't know why it got so many views but like it did and that labels they see the views and they're like oh hey what's up yeah that's how it works yeah they you guys I don't know obviously you guys see six nine on the internet you've seen him all everyone has seen him he's hilarious I don't care what I'm yeah he's very funny man I mean what that guy's doing is incredible um obviously like people in

want to talk all the shit but what he's doing on social media is like nuts so numbers why is it it's insane no no one's ever done it there was some shit saying that fucking who was going to sign him jZ or some shit you didn't see that like if someone's going to actually sign him like do you think he'll ever get like this i guess my question was leading to this do you think he'll ever be able to do collabs with people who are actually in the industry yeah yeah for sure it's going to take some time but like i feel like they those rappers in the industry are seeing his numbers right now and are already debating on it. Yeah, I mean, I think it's going to depend.

If I saw somebody getting two million views on a live stream, I would probably be like, yo, let's do something together. I wonder, who do you think this is the question? Who do you think the first person is going to be? Because I know, obviously, I know it's a fact. They're all like, what the fuck? Like, this is insane. I know like a boogie with the hoodie was like tight with him kind of and like said like

free, three six nine a lot. Yeah, it's probably, it's going to probably be like not, not like a, but I feel like it's like comes out's fucking Beyonce. Yeah. The biggest fucking shit in the world. Fucking Beyonce. Jay Z and Beyonce. Oh, my God.

Could you imagine? Kanye steps in. Kanye fucking pulls up. No, but his recent music video, that was the funniest fucking video, dude. He's just a troll. Yeah. He was the one that was like, I don't know if it was the times that we were in because it was like the 2017 era.

And that's when social media was actually at its peak. Oh, yeah. Especially on Instagram. Leafy 6'9, like disc tracks. Like just everything about social media around that time was just at an all-time high. And I feel like the stigma of him. coming back is people's hopes like oh the internet's gonna be doping in

but he's also still like a funny troll he's like the king of troll he's the king of troll he's the king he's the king of trolling I but that's the thing like you see this shit and it's like it's so many people rally behind like that just that content there's like the dude

is just like I don't give a fuck yeah and then obviously have the people who are like he's like a rat and then he embraces it and like makes jokes about it but like there's no way to deny these insane numbers do you think he's gonna sustain the numbers Not at that high But he's definitely going to be pulling more views

Than when he was popping in 2017 I feel like Do you think he's gonna become a TikToker I feel like he might be making He'll hop on his song is a very viral sound right now actually Yeah On TikTok Yeah

How's he like I'm mad I don't know Yeah you're mad I'm back Yeah Big man he's mad Yeah she's some sad

And so funny So have you used Have you done I've done it? Yeah I think I've done like too. Damn. Maybe three.

I'm not even in a lot. Yeah, I think he, because I was looking, I saw he has a, he has a TikTok, but he just, they just post other content on it. It's not like him doing TikTok.

Yeah, I feel like most, uh, celebrities and like musicians, they hop on TikTok just to like promote their music, but the ones that don't are actually like the cool ones. Like there's like the six nines. Like Justin Bieber will love his music and stuff,

but like he's just, he does the same TikTok to his song every single time. Do my dance. Do my dance. Do my dance. I love Justin Bieber. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, but it's, it's funny because you see like someone like that and then you see six and nine that's probably posting like Snapchat videos on his freaking TikTok. Yeah, it's interesting. So who were the, this is kind of changing the direction a little bit, who are some of the people you guys looked at before you got on social media? I was, I was always watching like, like Logan, Jake, Nelk, Danny Duncan. Yeah, that's pretty much something. Yeah, I mean, Nelke was big because. they lived like 45 minutes away from me yeah so everyone always talked about them like school it was what's the new nilk video like when they dropped a video that's what was talked about

all first period that's crazy it was everyone had the merch like everyone's reping their stuff it was it was big there like huge yeah everyone was uh asking in my in my video because i made like a little party thing for because you guys like came to the house yeah um everyone was like why the knelk boys partying with the ticotkers yeah that was a question yeah that was like all the comments. It's like no saying out these freaking losers. It's funny though man like that's what I'm saying it's all about perception right like what people

see on the outside and like if they go to your TikTok and they judge you based on that then yeah they'd be like these fucking shit heads but but you guys are like you guys are fuck actually like lit like for real. I appreciate that dude for real thank you. Yeah like I mean you're kind of lame but Rice is really lit.

Liz. No. You're an 18 year old pussy so I'm fucking with you. I'm just I'm honestly I'm, like, astounded at, like, I just, I can't even put myself as if I was 18 and I had that much, like, power. Yeah, it's like, I mean, yeah, and I can actually speak like this because there's actually some people in our house that I've had to, like, like, knock him down a little bit because they get an ego. And he doesn't. Yeah, this is interesting. I was going to talk about this.

Yeah. So what, do you think you're going to get to a point where you're like a fucking tool? I don't think, I really hope not. Yeah. I think I've gotten what do you mean hope like you can you can say yeah I'm not gonna no never like I don't think I'm ever gonna be to the point where I'm like no I'm definitely not ever gonna be to the point where I'm like I'm too fucking good for you like I'm not I'm not gonna talk to you because you have maybe when he's no numbers that way a little bit well I mean he's a fucking he's an Olympic wrestler yeah then he's like I'm gonna wrestle everybody I'm gonna wrestle bradley I'm so like but it's interesting because like you guys say that now but how do you really know that's what I mean I feel like our numbers are pretty high right now and like Like, I'm just, I've seen people that have had the ego, even like speaking for myself, I've used to have like an ego. And then one thing happens and then you find out who your true friends are and who are like

there for you when you fuck up, it's better to, for that person that has experienced it to like tell you, hey, dude, this has happened to so and so, so and so and look, look at them now. Right. It's like if you, if you have that ego, it can only take you so far. You're not going to, you're not going to gain real friends from that. No, fuck no. No real relationships. I mean, people will probably fuck with you because of your numbers.

Yeah, of course. They'll try to, like, film you and get your vote, which is... But, like, then, hey, when you go through a huge controversy, oh, I don't know that guy. I fucking hate him, actually. I'm tweeting about him right now. Yeah, I definitely experienced that. Yeah, I was, uh... Oh, yeah.

I was turning number one on Twitter to kill myself in 2018, so... Yeah, that was crazy. What happened to you? I got into a fight. Oh, shit. Yeah, stupid, like, right? With who? Another YouTuber.

But it was like... story wasn't right Tana got involved It was like this huge thing Tana Mojo Is that how you say her last name? I think so

Mojo Mojo Monju I did this on a podcast Where I'm not trying to do it again I just genuinely don't I don't know See how come no one

fucking knows this dude I think it's Mojo I've heard that I know I've heard that So Steve do you know what it is See It's like How is it's like

How does no one know her last name Oh there's definitely a ton of girls You know exactly what her last name is I'm just, I just don't watch enough of it, so I'm like, I don't watch it like that type of I watched the video where she, she, shit on my life, yeah. So she did this something to you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, she filmed with the guy that I got into a fight with and, uh, wait, wait, the fight at the, no, no, this wasn't, no, okay, this was like, this was when you beat the guy up at the Jake Paul fight.

Yeah, this wasn't that. You know, that's actually, you know, he's in team 10. I didn't know he was actually a team 10 member. Who? Uh, the guy that I fought. I didn't know he was a team 10 member I thought he was just like a... He was the SoundCloud.

Yeah, I know he's a SoundCloud. Oh, oh, uh, was the name Brandon? Yeah. Okay. Okay, yeah. Yeah, I just, that was funny, by the way. I was there. I remember I turned around and you've seen all the feathers up in there.

I was like, what the fuck is going on over there? Yeah, dude, I just read. I was so drunk and I just remember this kid like talking shit and I was just kind of like trolling because I, like, I knew he wasn't going to do anything. So I was just like, oh, okay. Stay over there. Like, you're talking shit, but you're far. away you're not going to do anything then he just hucked a loogie on my face and i don't know why like

just didn't even think about it even though like you know that could have just fucked me up in in any way like any business relations like anything just my immediate reaction was like okay i'm gonna fucking kill you but i but then i after i like picked him up and slammed him i realized i was like his shoe came off i had it gave his shoe back to him he was like where's my shoe where's my shoe and i was like so when i pick him up and slammed him um i realized like because I, when I was drunk, I was like, oh my God. What the fuck did I just do? And I put my hands up.

Yeah, I put my hands up like this and then he pops me. Like he punched me in the, I'm like, you're such a pussy. Yeah, that's like. And then the fucking security guards were way out of line. They were doing the most after that. They were, they were fighting everyone after that. They were, they liked me. Bro, they dragged, um, George, George Jenko's fucking friend out.

Like just, beat him up. Yeah, bro. I don't know. I think so. They just like jumped in that. I heard they beat his ass. Yeah. I was right there.

And I was like. whoa they just grabbed him and like picked them up like one here one on his feet and then just like took him out and like fucking threw him down the stairs or some crazy shit they snatched the phase chain that i had it was like a real chain it was meito's chain sorry meto by the way but they snatched phase meito's chain off my neck they stole my wallet tried to spend money at the 11th club those kids yeah the guy that i fought yeah brun yeah and like i was just like how how like pathetic are you i remember this we were in the we were in the gym and he wanted an apology and all this lame ass shit like yeah just pull up and fucking fight you fucking I literally said I literally did he was trying to fight him in the like there was a ring there was a boxing ring there was two pairs of gloves I said if you can beat me in a fight I will give you $3,000 for your jacket and this is what I'm saying guys like when I so

just to clarify when I met Bryce in Miami my initial response was like this pussy fucking TikToker right swear to God when I first met him but then he was cool on the plane and then all this shit happened that like throughout that week and then the fact that I remember you that day you were like yo I told I want to fight him like right here in this ring And you guys were like 100% about it.

I was like, these TikTokers are fucking crazy, dude. Like, that's not like most, most social media people like, fuck TikTok aside, just social media people in general,

just avoid shit. Oh, yeah. And that's what he did, obviously. Oh, yeah. But like,

it's funny, man, it's funny how on TikTok, you guys could be like, oh, these pussies. But you guys are fucking like, I'm not,

and again, I'm like, I'm really not trying to defend. I'm just saying the truth. Like, you guys genuinely were like about it. And I was like, this fucking kid's crazy, dude.

Yeah, so yeah and the whole crew like who uh was i was with taylor and nikita that's it like and nikita was the pro boxing and taylor you know boxes and stuff but like dude he i think it's so funny every time he like he tries to like act tough and shit no comments just roast in his ass oh taylor yeah no they roast me they got me too oh yeah they were like they were like that's that's part that's so funny i think it's hilarious yeah they roast me too but it's all good i don't go that the drug dealer thing yeah yeah biggest in the you know the whole fucking world but i really it's like it's like it's like it's like i

really don't no he's he's like but josh i were a podhead so like after the podcast but like yeah i mean i mean i could probably find someone you know like it's l a like we could yeah somewhere near um so so tictock going to youtube um and you said you don't really like you don't really want to do music do you want to do anything else outside i mean you said something about acting acting but like here's a crazy thing like is that the move anymore now or is it just more social media yeah that's the thing It's like, I'm going to ride this out as long as I can. And it's like, I'm only 20, dude.

Like, look at most of the top creators. Like, they're older. They're like 25 plus. Yeah. And it's like building companies. Yeah. Building companies. Building companies and like brands are around us with like subliminal messages behind.

Like, like, we're never going to say that we own any of these things. Yeah. I mean, you can do some, right? Yeah. Like if you own something specific to what you were doing. Yeah. Like the energy drink, we, we, we don't want to brand it as our. Like it just.

like you know those people that try to like yeah with their face all over right way that's not a good that's i'm gonna tell you guys right now it's not a good fucking move to be like this is my energy drink then it's like you have to sell it forever yeah that was my biggest mistake my biggest mistake when i started this when i first made my apparel it was called b and fit gear yeah and it banged it did amazing but my biggest mistake was which i now changed it to rargear my biggest mistake was because it was my name i could not you couldn't get other people involved with it because it's just like if i'm gonna get other popular influences they'd be like I'm just selling you you know what I'm saying first like making a brand that you guys

could all get behind and be like equally like your own like personality and your own like style into it but if it was just like you were selling Bryce's energy drinks you'd be like I'm just selling Bryce's energy drink it's just there's a weird disconnect and I was one of my biggest mistakes early on and I didn't know any better because I didn't have anyone no guy showing it was like I was just making all this shit up because it wasn't people didn't do it yeah so definitely guys listen out there like if you guys are watching you guys I don't know how you figured it out Did someone else tell you? I think it's like, learn from your mistake.

We did learn a lot from like, yeah, the break, the broke story that I had. Yeah, like that kind of taught me a lot and the longevity of everything. And maybe what's, what you've already seen on social media. Yeah, and I've seen, I've seen people like market some social media influencers. They can call himself influencers, but some of them are genius marketers. Oh, yeah. Like, shout out Logan Paul. Logan Paul is probably the best, like, marketer, I think I've seen every social media.

Like even, actually, nilked. too full send oh yeah for yeah like that's a whole brand they built that's insane oh yeah it's like people wear full send that like even you're wrong here like like it's just like certain influencers are good at it and some aren't yeah i it's just and it's what you guys are trying to do trying to figure it out because what most people did and what's i and i know this because i lived in this like the era of like when it started instagram and then because there wasn't like an influencer selling things until like 2015 where like they even call them an influencer right which is really new like and where you guys are at now like people who did really shitty in the long term that

i've looked back at now were people who just sold other people stuff like the people who sold like someone's company was selling this supplement and then someone they were like taking this brand deal this brand deal doing this shout out doing so much of that stuff you could just do it to yourself yeah or you can figure out creative ways to yeah like how you guys like we're going to make a product together and then now you can find other ticotkers who like because the truth is or other instagramers whatever YouTubers in the next five years there's going to be other kids who are becoming more popping or whatever. it depends how you guys go but like you could you could probably say for a certain in seven years

there's going to be some kid who's probably more popular than you are right now oh yeah and it's like he might be looking at you as he's coming up and if you find him at the right time you can be like yo come be a part of like this company or part of this company or the things that you're doing and now it's like you're able to everyone can win but back in the day people were just like oh i just need to make money so they were like i'm going to try and promote brand deal brand deal someone's company someone's product this code yeah and then people are like because then you got to think all the people watching are like all right this is i'm fucking tired of you trying to sell me shit yeah and then like you're not making enough original

content like from you and then people are just like they get disengaged and they're like fuck this it wouldn't it your own product too i feel like your supporters fuck with it so much more yeah they're behind it because you should be because like if that's the thing that's supporting you to continue to make the content for them it's like why not support it but if you're over here like doing bang energy ads like all those people oh my god are eventually going to just destroy their goddamn social media no one's going to give a fuck about literally like i see some of those Some of those little seller, oh, dude. I feel bad for him.

I feel bad for them. It sucks. It's like, yeah, $200,000 in a year, that sounds like amazing. But imagine how much you could be paid. Well, yeah. It's like, that's going to last for what, three years. And then people can be like, I'm tired of this shit. Fuck you.

And at the end of the day, that's only 900K. Yeah. I mean, we've literally seen kids. And you are promoting, you are killing your page. Yeah. It's a fact. See, like, did you guys see that happen to people? Yeah.

Yeah. Like 100%. And I've seen, like, most of the bang energy kids that were killing it at the start of their promotions are toast. Like, like, they started losing followers in the day, not even gaining that shit. I'm so proud of myself then because no one, no one, I couldn't watch anyone. I was the first motherfucker doing this shit. I'm trying to brag right now. No, no, dude, hey.

Humble brag. It's impressive as fuck. Because 2011 is when I started. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, how old were you in 2011? I was 10. Yeah.

It was like, I was only nine years old. It's crazy, bro. Like, oh, man. 10 or, you were like 9 or 8, yeah. Yeah. I just, I felt like I always had this, this, uh, just, it was obvious that if people, if all I did was try to sell someone something, I knew that people would be like, fuck you. Like, if you weren't giving someone something like, like, a laugh or like some information,

like if you weren't giving them something, you could never be like, buy this. Right. It just doesn't make sense. Why would they want to support or buy something from you if you're like, you didn't give them anything? Yeah. Yeah. He just buys it.

And people were like, straight out the gates. I remember like, one of the biggest questions. Like, I asked you earlier about how you make money on TikTok. I remember in the beginning of, like, fitness, because that's where I started, making all fitness content, right? And then like life, motivational stuff. So a lot of kids would hit me up and be like, yo, I want to do what you're doing. Like, how much money do you make? And I'm like, okay, listen, this is the problem, right?

If you're in it for the money, you're not. Exactly. So that's the question, right? How come years and years ago they didn't, they weren't able to know that? How do you guys know that now? I literally I started social media because I wanted to

to gain a following I didn't want to do it for the money Like I started out live streaming In front of like 15 people Like just because I had no friends in high school So I wanted people to talk to That's why I started Yeah

And then I started getting more And I became like the most popular Creator on like this platform called You Now I wasn't the most popular But I was like top 10 you know What was it called? You now You now?

Oh you did you now I was like one of the top guys I was like the guy that would grind on the bed, dude. No, it was. You grind it on the fucking bag. You're a fucking loser. Fucking nerd. That's not what I fucking did.

Cancel Bryce Hall. I'm fucking with you. Did you grind on the beds though? I did it once or twice. Okay. All right, whatever. Josh did it like once or twice too. It's all good.

Like what though? Like the side of it? Yeah. Oh, and then I remember, I remember I was doing it. Now, I literally was pulling like over a thousand viewers not making any money. And then they came out with the paid partnership program. Yeah. And I got my first check for the month for like $3,000.

And I was like, what the fuck? Yeah. I was like, whoa, whoa, you can make money. That was the first time you made money. Yeah. I was like, oh my God, you can make money off this shit? First check, 3K. Yeah.

You know, I bought like eight pairs of shoes. How old were you then? 14. Fuck, dude. That is crazy. That's crazy. You know, my first job when I was 15, I had to get a permit because there was no social media. I keep saying that fucking old man here, right?

I worked at Quiznos. Really? Did you ever regular job, right? No. Me neither. Damn, that's late. It's so cool to, like, it's so cool to me that this is how the world is now, but at the same time, it's fucking crazy.

It's a little bit like. It's worrisome because, like, people won't learn. I feel like certain responsibilities if they don't go through that regular life. Yeah. Yeah. Like, if I was putting a nine to five right now, I'd be like, oh my God, I want to literally shoot myself. Here's the thing.

Like, is that necessarily a bad thing? I don't know. Because it's creating like this world. There is definitely like, there's two. two sides of this blade for sure but at the same time it's really interesting because so many more young kids are like oh they see other young kids being successful and they're like i can do that and that's what really starts and spawns people believing that they can do something is seeing someone else do it i did i did i used to watch like viner's and i was like i was like oh my god

i can definitely do that i was like i remember i posted vine and i didn't get how it worked and i posted like you know how there were six seconds yeah i made like an eight or like three-minute video and just cut it up in six seconds and posted it so my feed was like 30 posts long of one vine i had one vine that went like super viral like 300k likes and i was like what the hell is up i got like six likes on that i never used vine never use it yeah fuck that i was on instagram yeah no vine vine the vine kids all i don't there's only like a few that are popping now like logan jake david dobrick all the vlog squad dolent twins a lot of like the youtubeers nowadays just yeah like vine stars but you know then again it's like creators come and go yeah that's a fact yeah

they come and go like they could be on top like for example no shade to any of them but the magcon boys do you remember them no madcon mad con madcon they're like Cameron dallas and like all those guys jacob's or tory is yeah their names those names sound familiar well Dolan twins weren't they no they weren't it was it was Cameron Dallas Taylor conniff like Carter reynolds like Sean Mendez oh Sean men is a fucking super he's huge now but he you know what's crazy about Sean Mendez? What? That dude used to fucking hit me up in the DMs because he's into working out.

And then I swear to God, like, I remember, like, I'd respond to him here and there. And I guess he used to, like, follow me and watch my videos and stuff. And then he just, like, blew up, blew up. Like, exploded. And I was like, exploded after Macon. What the fuck? And then, fuck you, Sean Mendez. I went to his page and he stopped following me.

I was like, you fucking bitch. You're a bitch. He blew up. He's like, fuck you. And I used to talk, like, like, low-key, like, little bullshit. Come on, work out. You know, like. You're giving him that advice.

to get big and he just bullshit just like he's like I took I took your ideas I mean he's a superstar he's a superstar he's kind of he's definitely into working out I know that's a fact because he he I went at the time he would follow another fitness people as well which like it's crazy fitness people fitness people suck nowadays it's different like in 2015 2017 like fitness was such at least I feel because I'm I guess I'm more in it and obviously I would see a lot more of it people were like way doper back then like Steve, you remember this? Like, fitness was way, way, like,

fitness, the fitness people I know are like David Laid, like, okay, I know David, yeah. Is it John Skywalker? I know John, yeah. Yeah, like Vitale, kind of when he was like, but Vitaly's not even a fitness person, but he just took steroids. Yeah, Vitaly's just a prankster.

I mean, he does work out. He was Jack. 100% he was Jack. I remember at one point, like, it was like, I was like, when did you just, when did you just get that big? It was like, he was like skinny, kind of chubbyish. And then he just was like

But see He made his content Is like 100% prank So he just worked out And got Jack Yeah Like David Lay definitely a fitness YouTuber

Skywalker I don't know if he does much YouTube I know he's done like Instagram Does he done YouTube stuff? I don't know I think yeah And then there's

Connor or something Connor Murphy Murphy yeah Who do you know I the only person I knew before was you from fitness That's late

Let's fucking go there I know a lot of the fitness girls That was like my thing I knew I don't know why I just wanted to see what They were doing

Like with their That was keeping up Like the lower half of their body Yeah I was fucking Oh no so like it was I'm just rifting right now I'm just thinking about like

I remember how It was so dope and it was like Such a dope community And then it just like Yeah I don't see it Yeah He just disappeared

I remember at one point There were like the fitness community Was like on top Like on Instagram for sure It was like the most popular thing every recommended video was so what do you think about like Cody code diss and like the fitness have you seen that stuff no he wouldn't this like fitness uh like Instagram oh yeah some of the guy with the neck tattoos yeah dude who's that guy with the neck

tattoos he has like a full neck tat but he has no other tattoos on his body no no no I don't know who that is he's like a neck tat like that and then he just has sleeves like there's no tattoo here oh my god roasted the fuck out of that I think it was more like fitness comedy that yeah like people that try to do fitness and comedy at the same time oh yeah but it just like was not working at all interesting yeah so he's like he's like did he talk about me yeah yeah he's like what the fuck that little bitch like no i don't know that guy he actually did he roast you but did he did it he didn't oh shit damn damn it he's roasting me roast me rost me cody where you at roast me come on this i like

this i like his videos are really good um so on that note right so it kind of like it was like super fucking dope and everyone was like it was like on top and then it just fucking faded and there's like no one left i think i'm the only guy who's like left so do you ever worry that like you guys are going to have this like up and then like i i was like i was up on musically like i was pretty i was pretty big on musically and then like there were the creators that were just untouchable at one point now like i'm looking at them there's really none that are still that untouchable like like like Lauren Lauren i think is the only musically Lauren gray she's the only

musically girl that like like stayed with it like and she's still like kind of doing it yeah and then there's like me but i wasn't at lauren's level ever okay not even clear so i used to watch you like i remember seeing you musically's when i was like small had no followers yeah you guys were all popping yeah yeah but then then i had like a like a moment where i was just plateaued like i wasn't gaming yeah and then ticot came around and just came back up but do you worry that like ever at some point it's just kind of like implode a little bit no that's good I just think, like, the content that I'm going to be creating is just going to be dope as fuck.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I love it. I mean, that's the way you have to look at it. I'm not at all trying to, like, make it seem like it is. Yeah, yeah. I just know at some point there's always. There's always this.

Always this. Yeah. Even if it's social media, anything in life, there's always that, like, it's a roller coaster. It's a fucking roller coaster. It's a graph. Yeah. What's that?

Yeah, as long as you're like, as long as you can, like, position yourself and keep changing and keep growing and keep evolving like you're saying? Yeah, look at, look it. at the Paul brothers they've evolved so much from the oh yeah do you remember 2016 when they were making like the cringiest shit yeah oh yeah i watch their videos and i'm like holy shit that's fucking dope yeah they've they've changed they're coming sick logan i i i think jake is now coming into like more of uh edgy older demographic logan really he pulled that so fast from the from the the the whole suicide thing to the podcast and then from the

the podcast back to like the vlog that's kind of like David David Doberich but it's Logan style like that's like he made the craziest fucking transformation of like kid content podcast which is like very not kid content but still grew it with the kids and then it became like much more older demographic and now his like content's way more edgy way more like his content is enjoyable like I watch it every single time he posts a new video I'm like oh shit Logan just posted a video got to watch that real quick I watch a lot of people though but like I watch you and I watch like now I watch like everyone

gotta study yeah that's what I'm saying I think you guys see because like there's so much examples now that you guys can see what can work and how you can make it work in your own favor and I think that's fucking dope man I think YouTube is on the path like right now that edgy content is going to be the shit

yeah like but YouTube fucking fucks it sometimes I do YouTube was talking to like our management saying like they we're on their radar We're on their radar, but they fucking hate us. Because of the kind of content. Yeah.

Fucking stupid. And the thing is because they wanted, uh, they wanted a lot of TikTokers to go to YouTube. Yeah, they wanted TikTok stars. Yeah, they wanted TikTok stars to create the, you know. But they were expecting like Kentucky, kitty friendly stuff. Yeah. Maintained their kind of like TikTok stigma like Bryce talked about. And then we were like the first TikTokers to really hop on YouTube and start grinding.

And it was totally awesome. It's not what they wanted. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting, man. Would you do, would you do what they want? wanted no no yeah not even for not even for x zero hesitated not a chance yeah that's smart we don't like we don't make shit well we make okay money on YouTube but we don't care about

like YouTube ads yeah like if it's like oh you know what this song would be dope in her video but it's gonna get demonetize demonetize a video oh copyrighted shit fuck it yeah yeah it would it would have sucked like the only time where I actually cared about that was when I was editing my own videos putting all in like the hours yeah it's like oh shit got copyright I just put it like eight hours of fucking editing and then I just get it all taken away. Dude, we were, but it's like now we just pay an editor and it's like, oh, if it gets copyrighted, it doesn't matter. Yeah.

The video is dope. Getting the content out is more important and making dope content is more important. That's for sure. And I've noticed that like specifically with the note guys, like that's one of their, one of their, I think their biggest assets is that they never bent on that kind of stuff or like the content they made was always like high quality or like if it was music in it, if they weren't getting monetized, they never like bent to change that. And I think that's what's helped them with so much success on.

YouTube specifically yeah well YouTube's tried to fuck them over like so many but I feel like the YouTube people like love them though it's like there's probably some in the audience who are like they all yeah let's fix this you know they're the ones that are like edgy but like you can't stop them yeah like yeah it's sick yeah so so do you guys would you guys make that kind of content more content like kind of are yeah like it's it's like I will like in party montages or like there's like a party I'm to be filming and it's like if they there's like a big camera on me and I just want

a shotgun or if I'm chugging a so you guys don't worry about that kind of stuff no well it's it's also like what high school kid doesn't drink or doesn't go to a party that's a fact I live that life too and if they don't go to parties they want to yeah they want and then even the ones that

like they don't go to parties and they don't want to like that's fine we're not telling people everywhere like you don't need to be drinking to be cooler yeah also we've also said multiple times on camera that we are not influencers like we don't influence we're here to strictly entertain yeah so we're content creators yeah i mean yeah but it's kind of hard to say like you're not an influence as long as you're prefacing me like yo like what you said like you don't have the party to have fun you i mean yeah you probably you probably want to

a party to have them but you don't maybe don't have to necessarily drink or whatever but because i was that kid growing up and and well at one point right when i kind of when i went overboard once and then realize like okay i'm not going to drink that much um but yeah you're right man it's just my that part of my life just wasn't on social media but like for sure I think back in that day like all my friends did was smoke and drink yeah well I mean I think it also came to the point where I realized and Bryce realized this really early on but everyone's out to expose you like when when you got some followers like all they want I don't think it's it's much of a problem in the guy demo because guys don't give a shit but there's some pussy ass guys though bro I get some motherfuckers try to play me back in

a day yeah no there's like the girls usually guys that try to expose us to is there cancel culture in the guy demo do you know what cancel culture is? Yeah, they try to cancel me in the fitness industry Oh, okay. Oh yeah, they try. So cancel cultures everywhere. Okay, but with girls Oh my God, it is insane. So it's like... Oh, because of the girl following. Yeah, yeah, because of the girl, like, so

obviously like... It's like, okay, if you get exposed for like, you know, fucking a girl, right? Like fucking a random chick and she takes a picture of you, your guy fans aren't going to be like, they're going to be like, whoa! Let's go! No, there was some pussy-ass people back on a day though. Back in a day when someone said that I fucked some dude's girlfriend, which I never did, and they all got mad at me.

Because you didn't do it? I didn't do it. No, not because I didn't do it. They thought I did. Oh, okay. But it's like why, like why they got mad at you because you didn't do it? No, they got mad because this person just said I did. And I never did.

And it's almost like, don't you think like they would have been like the fuck? Yeah, no. There's, it's different. It's different. But yeah, the difference is like, okay, if you fuck the girl and maybe like while you're asleep, she takes a son. selfie with you and like post it online your fans aren't going to be like oh they'll be like let's end oh okay but like if we did that and like a girl did that and like posted it somewhere

that could because of the demographic loss of damage yeah it's interesting so that's why we go you don't think you just hit him with the hair flip and they'll be like oh i love brine oh i forget all about that shit right i didn't mean to do it like because you just hit him with the fuck and then they're like okay it's happened it's happened in the past but so your goal your guys's goal it sounds like is to get more guy followers yeah we want i mean like that's not like diverse following no no i get it you have a ton of you have a ton of like mainly women followers just based on the demographic and we fuck with that our our we're trying to cause like we're trying to like show people that ticoters aren't that fucking lame dude like granted

granted there are some fucking lame ticoters like trust me some of them were at that party in texas but i'm saying like us the sway boys like the sway boys like the sway house where we go hard we're going crazy this way house goes hard what oh so what's the hype house uh they're they're like the disney channel oh whoa whoa there's a few there's a few people that go hard yeah yeah yeah no yeah i'm saying like the but they're like the disney version of us oh yeah yeah like they're they're popping but like way younger like they're their audience yeah they're so like we probably are more like i'd say 14 to like 19 maybe in the girls like maybe like 20 21 oh yeah like like like

Mine's a lot of college girls. And then I think the hype is like six to 12. Oh shit. Like young girls. Yeah. Like if they go on tour, they're going to have six year olds in their audience. Yeah.

Wow. Yeah. It's that fucking year. Like their moms have to bring them to every show. And like, I mean, think about TikTok. Think about like the concept of TikTok.

There's six year olds on there. Oh, so many. Yeah. Jesus Christ. I thought that was just like, I thought the youngest ones were just the ones who watched the family channels

when the parents were like, quiet, just watch this like, you know like kid play with toy yeah now they'll just give them a tic tuck and they can just keep because that's even easier to use yeah just scroll just holy shit that makes sense it's genius dude yeah it is the video it's all the fact that everything is just is content and you just go through it is like lost in that shit yeah dude i have two the last the last few weeks i've been trying to figure out how i should do more ticot's what i should do and i get i'm like what the fuck i like two

hours ago by i'm like what am i doing with my life and i'm just like i'm trying to find bryce's pose is just like hide them. I'm like every time I see him. No, I'm kidding. Not interested. He's like, fuck this guy. I like that feature though.

That you know what I click not interesting. I don't do that to you, but don't do that to Bryce. Don't do that to Bryce. I mean on TikTok you guys can probably do that to me. But like on YouTube, check me out. Check them out.

So anything else? Any other questions for me? How do you get so fucking big? Get on this? Zoom in on this? Wait, wait. What was my angle? That fucking shot's too much light.

Don't put that. for sure cut all that just kidding i don't care um lots of uh how many calories do you eat today yeah that's a good question this is actually really interesting question um because it's not as much as you think can i guess first go ahead guess three thousand 500 to four thousand that's that might be accurate that might be accurate so like most people would be like oh you got to eat i'm probably eating like six seven thousand calories or some shit but like i've actually adopted the intermittent fasting and i've done that for years where like really I normally just don't eat that much.

And when I do eat, I'll probably eat two or three big meals. And then that's it. Within like a six hour period. Yeah. So then it'll be like, yeah. How long have you been doing that?

It's fucking since I was his age. You've been doing that since then? Because I, but I didn't, yeah, and I didn't think of, because it wasn't a thing like, I remember the first guy that I learned about intermittent fasting.

It was some guy named lean gains or some shit. And it wasn't even on social media. It was just like a blog. And it was this guy who first started talking about intermittent fasting, like literally when I was like 18. 19. And I followed, I, I, I didn't follow it because I was like, oh, I want to do this because this guy's saying it. I had done it kind of just naturally because I was never really hungry in the morning and I would just eat like during the middle of the day and then not too much at

night. And then I found out that like it was an actual way of dieting. And I was like, oh, this is just easy for me. So not 100% of the time do I follow that. Sometimes I'll eat in the morning, like some days I'll fuck up and I won't do it. But I would say for the most of my lifting career, it's been like I don't eat until like a little bit after my workout. Yeah, Like, I'll literally go to the gym, empty stomach, train. I've been doing empty stomach. Drink a bunch of water and then start my eating. We wake up, like, early and, like, just, we don't eat before.

No, we just go to our little gym in the grill. Intermitt fasting is fucking amazing. It's amazing, bro. Yeah, if I were to guess, I probably, like, I only eat, like, probably a thousand, two, 1,500 to 2,000 a day, but then I drink alcohol and then the next morning just lift heavy as fuck. Dude, it's crazy, man. There's some people that I know who are so strong who drink a fuck ton. yeah like mostly beer though not liquor beer oh right because there's a lot more cars yeah yeah

yeah i don't know it's something interesting with the estrogen how it how it like might regulate it or like if because like hops has like a little bit estrogen so maybe it helps clear extra estrogen like i know beer can do that like obviously too much beer can then you're just adding extra estrogen which is gonna be shitty which is why people tend to build body fat here or feel bloated um but yeah man like i don't know there's definitely like no one right exact way to do all this stuff there's It's like what fits your body. Yeah, what works for you. Some people just are, they respond better to eating chicken or respond better eating steak.

Like, you got to learn and experience with yourself. Like, what works for you is for sure. But intermittent fasting is amazing. We just, I mean, we might have to try it. Yeah, for real. You guys might already be doing it. You don't even know, you know. Yeah.

Like a six hour period, like that's like a 12 hour fast. Yeah. I get caught up in content sometimes. Yeah, we, we sometimes. That's what I did. Like, I just muck for like, that's, like, a 12 hour fast. two hours straight I just eating yeah two two like I would say like a six hour window max like a 12 hour not no window like don't eat and then like a six hour and like I would always break the fast

like my that tail into my workout would be like towards like the last 12 hours I would never guess that he intermediate fasted no I just eat food all day yeah no because I don't have fucking time for that yeah I just genuinely and I never really like like I would wake up in the morning before I did all this shit and be like I'm just not hungry so I just kind of like I'm never like I'm never a breakfast guy like i don't yeah never i like listen there's a lot of shit like in the fitness industry in the diet culture that's like just kind of like they taught us certain things because they want to sell certain like cereal they want to sell certain foods they want to sell certain like protein powders and stuff but like you don't have to actually eat that much it's more about the

efficiency of your body like how much you're eating and how useful and is your body able to use it more efficiently than not so and if you like the intermittent fasting idea is like you're the idea is you're you're like you're making your body way more efficient at doing the things that you want it to do so because you're sensitizing it you know instead of constantly giving it food you're giving it time to rest and you're making it more sensitive to what you do give it so i tried intermediate fasting but like i felt like i was way too hungry that happens like the first two weeks and then it kind of it fades yeah see you know like i only tried it for like two weeks and you got to make sure you're drinking enough water when you're not eating the food and like

during the day if you're fasting during the day like the first half of the day drink like tea and shit like that. Tea, a lot of water, that'll, like, that'll quell the hunger. And then you'll notice that, like, you're going to start being hungry

at that time when you start eating and not the beginning time. Yeah, if I'll try it just to get checked. Yeah. I guess I'll get big. Yeah, like,

do you guys want to get big? I want to get, like, a little bit of size. Like, I'm, like, okay right now, but, like, I want to get up to, like, 170. I don't know if I'm going to get,

like, that big. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like 170, because I'm like 155, No, I looked like you, bro. Really? Yeah, dude, I looked like you.

That was me. I mean, I get, I get, I get roasted for like, how much you weigh? I'm like 140 probably. Oh, how tall are you? Six foot like, yeah. Yeah, no, yeah, I was like, I think my skinniest side was 153, same height. Nice. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, you could do it. Yeah. But it's like, do you want to? Who knows? I don't know. It's like, you don't necessarily need to, right? No, yeah, but I love working. Like, we go every more, I go every more, but I go every more, but I go every morning,

but I'm not going to lie about it. Today, today I slacked because I was editing my video. Yeah, he also skipped out on the fucking 1 p.m. Yeah, I got caught up like, dude, because my final cut, because I was trying to like fix up my video, it just was like closing in. So like we had our editor drive to our house to like so, so I could just finish my video with him. Oh, you got it done. It's all good. You're here now.

Yeah. Okay. So no other questions? Yeah. Do you? No, I take it. You got anyone? So if you guys can give, like, the people listening, like, your audience, my audience, whatever, some sort of advice on not necessarily how to become TikTok famous or anything.

It's just like how you guys have navigated social media because you guys are so fucking young. And doing that at such a young age is like, it's impressive no matter how you look at it. Do you guys have any advice to people watching? Like, if they're like, I want to do this or I want to do that, like, what advice would you give that? It just depends what route they want to go. If you want to get an audience to influence people, um, I. I would say, well, if you're not crazy, don't be yourself. Just create.

I would say just watch people that you enjoy genuinely. Yes. And then find out a way to make it your own. Like maybe you like four different YouTubers, maybe combine like everything with your personality and just make it like your own thing. Yeah. And just be you.

Just be crazy. Yeah. Be 100%. Fun. Be creative. This is a fun. This is a fun lifestyle. This is like, I feel like every single day that my life is a movie and I, I'm blessed.

It's amazing. I'm blessed. Like, I'm honestly, I don't think there's a better one. I'm going to be honest. Like, social media. It can be terrible. Oh, it can be. If you let it be, but if you can, like, get on your shit and grind, then you're living, like, the best life you can live.

It's amazing, yeah. Yeah, anything you specific you want to share? Um, I mean, for me, it was like, when I was 12, 13, I was watching YouTube videos every day. and I was just studying my favorite creators and I like bought a camera I was like all right I'm gonna be a YouTuber and I watched Nelk and we did air horn pranks that was my first ever social media video

of all time like before musically everything it was an air horn prank and I remember like a guy threw a golf up it was crazy but like getting into that and finding out like what you love I think is like the most important part because I lost myself in that for like two years signed with management everything was forced that I was doing

it was all character and then nothing was work like I wasn't growing nothing was happening the second I left them and became myself went on tour blew up like what you really wanted to do exactly yeah I was posting shit that I loved and like I was I was having fun doing it and yeah boom that's when it that's huge fuck yeah well that's it unless you guys are anything else for me I think that's how I think that's that's amazing this was a dope-ass podcast yeah it was that was fucking yeah yeah yeah subscribe fucking on iTunes on fucking YouTube drop a fucking comment drop a like on iTunes drop a little star like five stars i think it's five stars i'm not sure how many stars the way he promotes

to boost his podcast yo don't forget to fucking subscribe fucking oh yeah yeah run that shit run it up ticotkers in here bro most popping ticotkers right here um and they're not pussies at least i don't know about you yet i haven't i haven't tested him did you see him in texas he kind of he's lit he's lit i don't really know for like i was around bradley a lot in texas yeah i kind of like went way too hard he was trying to wrestle me the whole time um oh if you want to see us wrestle he wants to post something on his thing oh my my god what the fuck he's just fucking god damn it dude

let's do that this week though I want to do that this week fuck it hell yeah god god um yeah but subscribe thank you guys for coming man I appreciate it no problem thanks for having it um yeah dude that what you guys have done no matter how anyone watching this looks at

like TikTok this or that it's fucking impressive thank you get a million likes on fucking Instagram is like insane to get the kind of engagement of views you guys get like is it's next level so keep it up appreciate it for sure hell yeah thank you guys for being on the podcast

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