RAWTALK - Calling Out Mike Majlak
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You're such a fucking bullshitter, bro.
Yeah.
That was something I wanted to talk to you about.
No, I know.
I don't get it.
Bro, what the fuck?
That's where you want to fucking start the show?
You just, bro, the way you delivered that was fucking crazy.
No, not like you, like you didn't work on you.
I just said, yo, are that hair shit even fucking work?
I just want to know if he's going to work for me, bro,
because I'm not going to lie.
I was, like, putting it off for so long.
I put it off for so long.
Because I got offers to do that hair thing for, like, the last fucking four years.
Yeah, I mean, dude, the, the, the offer that I gave you is a good, it's a good deal.
It's a terrible offer.
No, I'm, bro.
Because I actually went to him and I asked for way more, and he said, yes.
He did?
Yeah.
Well, I don't freaking know, dude.
I mean, I got, I got more than that.
But I just figured maybe.
because no because no no hold on i didn't get more cash the amount of cash i got was not that much
but do you know how much i made off that referral the it's one of the biggest deals i've ever done in
my life hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars no i didn't know bro because if you're getting
that much per sign up like i think they i think they gave me the deal assuming that i would have like
you know 50 60 people sign up and it would be this like deal where they would pay me 10k and they would
promote their company but i'd like 1500 signups in the first month yeah like dude
But I got a way better deal than you, apparently.
Nah, well, you don't know what my deal was.
You don't know what my deal was.
You can't.
Well, you lovable my shit.
We'll talk about it.
We'll talk about it after.
I'd like to know.
By the way, if you got a good deal, bravo, bro.
Congrats, dude.
I salute you, dude.
When are you going to go?
I don't know.
I'm going to tomorrow to get stem cells done on this finger first.
Because, yeah, I'm going.
You go to my guy?
What?
Are you going to my guy?
Who,
Austin?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm going to Austin.
What do you mean you're going to Austin?
Are you going to the dude that I fucking connected you to?
I don't know.
What do you mean?
I reached out to a bunch of different people and a bunch of people connect me to me.
The main head fucking dog, dude, weighs to well.
Yeah, that's where I'm going.
Bro.
That's where I connected you.
Well, like four different people did, to be fair.
Four different people were like, this is the guy.
I'm just saying four different people are like, yo.
What's the point of me even doing anything effort, bro?
No, no.
It's like I connect.
you're people in Turkey.
I'm like,
do this deal.
Then you're like,
your deal's ass.
I connected you to the stem cell guy.
It's going to save your fucking life.
You're like,
oh, man,
I don't even remember if it was you or not.
No,
because like,
dude,
like four people recommended the same person.
He's the best part.
He's the best.
Yeah.
Number one,
wait to the series facility.
He takes care of every person
from Rogan to Aaron Rogers
to every UFC fighter,
every wrestler.
He saved people's,
you know,
Ray Mysterio's knees.
Like, bro,
he's the actual goal.
He's the actual.
He's the actual.
actual go of stem cells yeah the actual go i'm really excited super excited because this shit is it's
healing but it's just fucking it looks funky man i'm not gonna lie i got to ask you man
what the fuck happened your finger dude i don't know the story i i i think i messaged josh
about it but i i'd really like to hear it i'm sure you've told it a thousand times by now
but i'd really like to hear what exactly happened yeah but it was it was dude i could show you
which is so stupid like i have video footage i don't know
I saw the pictures on Twitter.
No, you sent me pictures with it completely missing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So the dumbest thing ever, I did a pod with Rampage.
This is before all the, his son drama stuff.
We'll talk about that.
And I go to, I'm like, I'm going to do a live stream.
I want a live stream in the desert, like in Gorman and ride dirt bikes with Rampage.
So I set that whole day up.
So we did a pod and we're going to go do live stream.
We get done with the podcast.
We go outside.
We're loading up the bikes.
We're like organizing the Starlink.
Another buddy comes with like a big four-by-four, like a side-by-side can't-in for like
for videographers to get into, you know, to be able to video as we ride around.
We set up the Starlink.
Everything's good.
We're like looking for plugs.
We figured it all out.
We load up all the bikes.
Everything's loaded up except for my bike.
It's like, and I've loaded up my bike 50 times in the back of my truck.
Josh goes to grab the bike, pull it up to the back of the rafter out there, the truck.
And then I go to grab the other side.
he's on the other side we go to lift it and just like instantly that my hand i just put my hand
the bottom like towards the you know towards the brake cowper's and where the spokes are wrong
wrong positioning the wheel turns and just what do you mean the wheel turns it roll because we
was we were putting it up on and it was going to roll a little bit yep so like imagine i had my finger
there and the tire quickly like shifts and turns and so i must have my finger just in the between
the brake caliper in like one of the spokes and it just pushed it right off like instantly with
with no power from the bike it was just it was just inertia from the wheel turning us both lifting
the bike and and push your pinky into the brake caliber yeah it cut it sharp straight off and it was weird
because the brake caliper the whole thing was pretty saw it wasn't it wasn't it's not they're not
blades yeah they're not blades you're right but the where my finger was I went back and looked at it
it was like way sharper than the other one so it was just like destined to be fought can you sue someone
Sue KTM.
Can you sue someone, bro?
Dude, I wish.
I was about to sue the fucking...
Listen, hold on.
I was about to sue the fucking hospital
because when I went to go get my finger
reattached, we put it on ice
and you're supposed to put it on ice a certain way.
Like, you're not supposed to put it in,
like, the ice.
I'm supposed to sit so it doesn't soak in the water.
It's supposed to put it on top
on like gauze or like in a bag.
Yeah.
Just tossed it into like a pond.
Yeah, no.
So we put it in this thing.
We brought it there and we're about to get the surgery done.
First of all, it takes like two hours
to get it.
and surgeon there.
But in between time,
we're like,
my buddy,
because I'm like kind of out of it.
I'm like,
what the fuck's going on?
My buddy Josh was like,
yo,
is it supposed to be sitting there like that?
And they're like,
yeah,
it's fine.
And they just like
kind of sat at there.
And I think they could have
reattached my pinky,
but they didn't because the way
that they stored it for like
those two hours was wrong.
Wait,
wait,
so what's under that cause?
Is there a,
no,
no,
don't,
I don't need to see it.
Is there,
is there a pinky there
or a half a pinky there?
or like what's going on under that gau it's most of my pinky it's most of my pinky it's just like
if you saw my finger right here yeah the blade cut me like this way on my finger so it cut me like
i could say like this so it cut off most of my nail and like the tip of my pinky so it still went
up it only it only got a little bit of the bone at the tip here but it took off like this part
what did it do to the bone it just missed the bone i think it just grazed the bone because i remember
when I pulled my hand back after I knocked it off
and I looked at it and I was like
yeah that's really bad
and I like glance back at the bike and I was like
I could see my nail
like my pinky nail
so okay so as someone who has
severed and
scored deeply into their body a number
of times right I've had organs removed
I've got so much hardware inside my body
I always would know
that it that there was a major issue
if I could see that that car
this was so far beyond that and you're one of the worst thing the worst pain in the world
after maybe dental pain is a paper cut like a severe it sounds like you got the worst paper
of all time it sliced your finger off it's weird it didn't hurt as much as you thought like it felt
like I stub my toe were you in shock a little bit of me was I think when I saw my pinky like on
the bike because I was like oh I cut my pinky off and so that right away was like I wasn't like
stressing or crying or like scared i was just like what the fuck do i do and then we just
show straight to the hospital so were they able to reattach anything or they just said fuck it they
they sewed it up in a way that like most of my pinky looks like it's still there
it's just like you could tell it's it's going to be missing like this top part of my i mean what
are you really truthfully use a pinky for is it going to is it going to what is it going to actually
affect does it affect your support on a bar grip strength grips really it's one of the
most important fingers actually yeah
so it will affect grip strength now is that as important for like all movements that i'm doing
like bodybuilding wise probably not but like the good thing is i was able to i have all joints it's
not like i cut off these two joints i still have all the joints it's just going to look funny i'll
still be able to probably get the strength back i think and i think with the stem cells and stuff
um it will gather you know the nervous the nerves and everything will be a little bit better
after that yeah and that's my goal it's just to have like a fully usable pinky because right now
you're not. I mean, right now there's still
a bunch of stitches in it. Yeah, how many
stitches? Fuck, dude.
I don't know, like, fucking five or
five to ten. Okay.
Because he basically, like, it was a giant hole
he saw on Twitter and he basically
sewed it up like
from the middle here
and he like sewed it up. I mean, bro, when I
what I saw on Twitter looked like the top part
of your finger was missed gone. Yeah, it
looked like up the part of your pinky
was gone. Yeah, it was. There was just a hole.
Yeah, that's what happened.
And then he sewed it like all that skin that was loose like this.
He sewed it like under the nail.
So there's still a little bit of the nail bed.
Like there's this much of my nail bed is still there.
And it's going to grow up.
But I don't know how it's going to end up looking over like the, you know,
the nubby part of it.
Yeah, I feel like I'll be fine.
Yeah.
I'll be fine either way.
I mean, dude, if I could trade my ankle, my current ankle injury for that,
I would do an heartbeat.
Would you really?
A heartbeat, dude.
I can't take one step without feeling.
severe pain, bro.
I've end-stage arthritis
in my ankle.
It just hurts all the time?
All the time.
It's like right now?
It's filled with screws and plates.
My only option is to either get
tar, which is total ankle replacement,
which only last seven years or you get fusion,
which is to actually fuse the leg to the foot with no ankle.
They remove the ankle joint.
How did that even happen?
I broke in 2008 in a botched like robbery attempt.
Like these kids were trying to take.
I was selling two grams of dope out the window in my car.
And this kid was like, I'm like,
do you give me the money first.
He's like, dude, like, what the fuck?
You think I want to be.
beat you and he started counting his money and shit was in West Haven and um and I had two of my boys with me
so I was like dude he's not gonna he's not gonna beat me so I just handed it to him he's like
you're beat fucking do something about it and just started walking away so we all piled out of
the car I went to crack him from the side or from the back because he was actually walking
backwards and at that moment his homie who I didn't see was around the side of the house came out
and tackled me and when he tackled me my foot was like lodged under I was like in a fucked up
driveway in West Haven and my foot stayed my body went to the side and it just ripped off
So it just broke both bones
I had a radio fracture
So it was just a disaster
And then keep in mind too
My foot's hanging off like upside down like this
And I'm in a fight for my life
Too they're pounding on top of me
Luckily my homie Kevin came over
And was able to choke one of them out
Completely unconscious
We got the drugs back
We got in the car
Started driving to the hospital
I'm holding it weren't a six speed
My buddy's driving my car
He doesn't even know how to
He's doing the best he can
So my ankles flit going like
this all time flying all over the place and we just limp yeah completely limp broken off not compound
like the bones not through the skin but it's just completely broken off yeah so then we go uh we're
gonna go to the hospital i have to go drop i want to drop the stuff the all of the drugs i had like
10 grams of heroin on me i want to go drop it off of the house so i go put it in the top sock drawer
he he goes in and puts it in the top sock drawer comes back out starts driving the second before
we go to get on the highway every you know uh narcotic
major crimes everyone because they said we had guns at the fight they called and said they have guns
they guys who were buying the drugs called the cops all the neighbors that saw the fight it's really
tight in west haven so everybody that saw everybody they were like they fucked them up they have guns
all the shit so they pull us over take us out of the car they take my golf bag out of my car
lay me down in the middle of the street handcuffed and they prop my ankle on my golf bag for like
two hours they searched the whole car down tear all the seats down so I'm laying on the ground
spitting like begging the cops pulling at their pants like this like please bro bring me to the hospital
I'm in so much fucking pain they're like we don't care until we finished the search and then finally
I get to the hospital in milford they I got to milford had a completely messed up leg and they were treating
me like a piece of shit because everybody knew I was in the town so they wouldn't give me any drugs
they wouldn't get me any pain killers they were just they just let me like my mom was screaming
yeah I didn't take any any painkillers for this yeah different different than that sounds
I mean, it was pretty gnarly, but I've had so many instances like that.
And it's just been, it's actually, it's actually crazy.
I was thinking about it the other day, how many, I was driving home with Kifa the other day from
Taub, as we did like a little birthday party for Taub down in Palm Springs.
And I was talking to Kifa about quickly about another event that happened in like 2007,
2000, no, maybe like a little bit earlier, like 2006.
And I got pulled over and I just bagged up 10, I just picked up 10 grams of heroin.
and I just bagged it up.
So 10 grams, this is like way too much detail,
but it's interesting.
So 10 grams breaks down into,
if you bag up at 0.3 bundles,
breaks down into about 330 bags,
individual dime bags of dope, right?
That you can then go sell at street level.
So it's 33 bundles.
So I'm driving and I'm already...
What would that convert to?
But cash-wise?
At the time, I probably was getting like a buck,
a buck, a buck 10 per bundle.
So maybe like 33-100,
a little over 3,300 bucks.
And I'd probably pay...
I probably would pay like $1,200 for it.
So it was a pretty good, I mean, it would take me a little while to move through that much because
it's, it's a decent amount.
I mean, most people buy about a bundle on the streets, like $1,600, but I would also
sniff a good chunk of it, obviously, right?
Yeah, not good.
So I'm driving and I'm already on a suspended sentence.
I have a five-year suspended sentence.
I was on five-year probation, five-year suspended.
So if you violate your probation for any reason, you have to go do five years automatically,
and then whatever else you got arrested for gets added on top of it, right?
so it could be just for anything
for a speed like reckless driving
for example right yeah so I'm driving
I have this on me in my cargo pocket
and I'm driving from East Haven towards
Milford to go start making sales
and I get pulled over
and I'd never been pulled over with that
I'd been pulled over with a couple oxycontin
weed all that shit whatever but I'd never been pulled
over with a real amount of weight like that
like intent to distribute weight
and I get pulled over I've got a suspended license
they come up to the window they say hey Mike
what's going and I knew I was screwed as soon as they said that they're like hey Mike where
you going tonight and I was like dude this is I'm fucked and I've got $5,000 or like $5,600 or something
like that in the middle compartment they pull me out of the car they search the car they find
that they're like where you work in these days I was like oh I just do odds and ends for my
grandmother dumbest answer of all time they'll go yeah 5600 bucks huh go search the whole car
they don't find anything for some reason they search me after so they put me up I got my hands on
the top of the car start patting down it's in remember the old cargo pockets that really fat yeah
it was in the bottom of one of those like just stuffed in there all you had to do is reach in it
he padded over it my legs my knees were knocking together bro i would the reason i'm telling you
this is think about this think about things in life and how they work i'm sitting in the car
driving back with kifa we're talking about our lives and like how long we've known each other
it's you know we just gotten done doing this thing and we're having like a real heart heart
he goes you would have never known any of this any I would have never met you I never would have met you I never would have met him I never would have met kifatav I probably would never even came to california if he just in that one split instance of life just reached in or felt it and and reached in five years suspended plus probably another 10 on top yeah I probably would maybe not still be but I probably would have done seven or eight years I never would have had any of this I never would have
met anybody talk about content i would it's just what i'm got where i'm going with this is it's
really wild how the most split second and and and tiny little things in life ripple
could ripple out or not ripple out in such insane ways like crazy butterfly effect i think they i think
they all do it just like it takes time for for you to see it come to fruition like i mean
For example, that day on the concept that you're talking of,
the only way that I was able to make myself feel better
was like, okay, maybe if I went and rode dirt bike,
something even worse would have happened.
That's the only thing.
100%.
Because there was no other way I was like, why?
Like, why does, I remember my hands were injured for like a whole,
like I feel like the last two years my hands have been injured,
which is a very weird thing.
Like my dog's fighting me ripping them apart, like multiple times,
having injuries on my fingers.
This is like the last one.
And I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
but I'm like, yo, I have to look at it that it could have been way worse.
100%.
So, I mean, that's just kind of how life is.
I think in all aspects it's that way, you know?
Just a perspective thing.
I mean, I mean, everything.
But the question that I have, and it's kind of in regards to both of us, is although we
know, we kind of, everyone knows that to be true.
We all accept that to be true, right?
But there are actions, there are choices you make that lead you down these, these roads
regardless.
like for you know and i'm speaking to when i said regardless in regards to us is like
i saw you battling recently for uh you know being the guy without a family and being older
oh yeah i'm the poster child and i you know i'm not too far behind you um you know the same
sort of situation no kids um and i think about that a lot i think just think about the choices
that i made over all these years and like how choices that i made when i was younger obviously
led me to where I'm at today.
Obviously, very happy in a lot of ways, but there are those other avenues of my life.
And we've talked about this on the phone a couple times, I think, you know, over the last
six months, that you're just like, at least me, I'm like, man, did I make all the right choices
in a lot of other ways?
But I also know that you can't.
Like, I know that I can't make all of the right choices.
But then I have to go, well, then maybe I did.
Like, maybe it's just my timing is just different.
we live i'll speak for myself i've lived a very very very complex life yeah layers of complexity
and so the conversation lately about the the kids and the aging and stuff like that i've
had to get to a point and i've luckily got got to a point years ago where unless you're able
to really relate with me relate to me on a level of you've lived on the streets you've
battled substance and mental illness at the level that I've had.
I have you've battled organ removals and and debilitating injuries and felony charges
and family issues and then covered so much ground to a point where you're living a life
at the top top, top fucking tier of, of networking and career and all of these different
things and you truly can empathize and understand for that situation.
And why are you, why are you talking me about anything?
You could, you can do it.
I'll respect your opinion, but I'm not, it's very, very hard for me to relate to anyone
who tries to layer on some sort of like, this is how life has to go.
Because my life doesn't look like anyone else's.
There's not a single person out there in this world that I can go and look, maybe five,
where I can go and be like, yo, look at the, look at the level of comeback in this story.
Right.
So like, should I, no, there's no.
Nothing. There is nothing that I would change. There is nothing that I would change.
It is for me to even be sitting here having this conversation with you on the couch right now
is a miracle. An absolute miracle, dude. It should have never happened. I should have been dead
a thousand times over or in jail a thousand times over. So like to look back and be like,
oh, I regret this thing or, you know, I had this girl and dude, shit is going to play out the way
it plays out. It really is. Life is a mix of like free will and fate and God.
and luck and talent and opportunity
and all of the timing.
And shit's gonna play out the way it is.
You know what I'm saying?
And now, you know, to the point,
like I had that tweet last week
with like, went absolutely insane.
I made that ridiculously like random tweet at Logan's wedding
about like your friends asking you when you leave parties
like where you went.
And it just went so fucking viral.
Yeah.
And I didn't think it was gonna be like some definitive moment for me.
But I just,
it was just like a mess around tweet.
And, you know, it definitely makes me think
dude, but I'm sure, I don't know if you feel like me,
but the way I truly feel about my life, dude,
is I could look around to anyone in the world.
I see beauty in everybody's lives.
People have families.
Logan's got a beautiful family.
My sister, both my sisters have multiple kids.
Other people don't have families and they do other stuff.
There's not a single person that I would trade my life with.
And I can say that to you dead in the eyes.
There's not a single human on this planet that I would say,
you know what, I'm so envious of their life that I would give up this adventure.
that I'm on. I love my life. I love exploring new places. I love meeting new people. I love having
the freedom to just do anything I want whenever I want. If I want to go to Finland, if I want to go to
October Fest, if I want to, I love exploring and then storytelling based on that exploration. That's what
I love to do. It's what really, really drives me. And do I, do I, am I intrigued by the idea of
continuing my namesake and having children and raising them in a cool way, being, being the dad that
I know I could be as an intelligent and funny and, you know, like all of the things that I have to offer with all of the empathy and perspective that I've gained through all of this life experience.
Of course, it's intriguing to me.
But I'm not in any rush.
I'm not working on anyone else's fucking timeline.
I'm going to do it in the way that I, that I want to do it.
You know what I'm saying?
And so like, I'm sure you're in the same boat as me.
And if you're not, you should be, which is just like, dude, the online audience is like walking past a playground.
And you're on your way to do something great.
or you're already doing something great
and the kids on the slide are screaming,
look at this bitch ass, motherfucker, bro.
And there's a lot of them, there's a lot of them,
but that's what I see when I see the comments
and I'll just toy back.
Like, look at you, 40, I grow up, start a family.
For real, for real.
Like, dog, I'm in the middle of the fucking ocean
on a mega yacht right now,
doing the things I want to do.
Why am I, why am I even seeing your shit?
You know what I'm saying?
but that's the that's the world we live in like for example like not to go too far off topic because
I want to get back to the kids but like mr. beast yeah yeah that guy that guy can't do i mean the guy
does everything right he dude is literally building wells and providing water providing schools
providing eyes ears shit for people who don't have it and people are mad because they don't feel
like he's doing it for the right reasons or because he smiled weird and you smile weird dude shut
the fuck up what are you these dude it the voice that the sad general mass has nowadays it's it's it's
it's to me it's hilarious i know for younger people it's it's it's hurtful and it hurts them and
it and it represents to them like real things about themselves to me it's just it really is just
like you know white noise it's like that it's just like stupid bro you do not have the latitude or
authority to speak to me on that level. You don't. And I see that. So I'm not interested in your
conversation. If someone who has the critical ability based on their own life experience,
their own success, their own family, whatever wants to come talk to me about something,
have that conversation all day one-on-one. Let's talk about it. Let me give you the context
to really understand where I'm coming from. Let me understand the context of where you're coming
from. But this headline comment culture is, why would we even entertain that? What's the point?
Yeah. I feel like it's gotten worse, though. Just depends. Like the last few years.
how much you as the holder of your own perspective in life and your own horizon,
like the horizon theory,
this is your life.
It's gotten worse for the people who allow it to get worse for me.
I read it.
I laugh at it.
Like when some of the shit is so funny to me.
Like when they get a good joke on me,
I'm like,
that was a good one.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like, it's funny to me.
And I actually respect it.
I'm like, dude,
you deserve the 26 bucks you're going to make on Twitter this month for that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like,
Dude, I think Twitter might just be the worst place for it, specifically.
But it seems like it's everywhere.
Like, okay, outside of obviously your perspective on it and you've seen it,
do you think, though, that as a whole it's gotten worse,
the internet in general has gotten more negative?
It's just, it just continues to be more in general.
I don't know that it's more, I don't think it's more negative.
I see.
I think of it's just starting to, it just has really just enveloped everything.
And you're watching like,
You're watching, like, traditional celebrity, traditional athlete, traditional politician,
all of that fade out to be, to be reinvented by the social media representation of those people.
So instead of a 28 and O boxer that's coming out of New York City, golden gloves, you get the Jake Paul version.
Instead of like this guy who's, you know, fought for immigrants and for this thing and for that thing and, and,
help build a city from take a city like Detroit to a better place and now he moves up to the
next level from mayor to governor to president, you get Trump as opposed to, you know, like,
you know, artists that are musicians and multi-talented musicians like Tame Impala and,
and Mac Miller was, you get, you get, you know, I don't, I don't know, like, or someone or like,
or like Playboy Cardi or something like that that's just like runs off these really quick
social media hits and everything's become very bite size and very and by the way like i'm i'm
in many ways a product of it as well like i can't i can't hate on it it's just the way that the world
is going we've become algorithm we've become part of the algorithm that's all we are now we're just
we're just ones and zeros at this at this point you know there's no reality yeah that's where
it gets scary because of the the uh the the the controlling of it the the coordination of it
like the you know like who's pulling the levers yeah like that that aspect of it knowing that
like because we're so ingrained in it now like us like real people and then they've also
ingrained so much like fake shit fake influence bots all this sort of shit
whoever is controlling you know the algorithms it's like we're kind of at bay to that
direction like you see this shit comes out and it's like you know this uh the trans this new trans
shooter and now now you see the whole right has now done this like trans like are it's all mental
illness and like look at the pattern and these people are shooting people and it's it's it's an mk
alch canis owens it's an mk ultra thing and like this is a this is all a product like it's it's
i can't say it's either true or false but i can say there is like there is enough evidence of
something some i don't know if it's a group of people a bunch of people a bunch of different
groups of people, a bunch of different, like, I don't know, dude, corrupt fucking nonsense just
trying to make the world go, what the fuck's going on so they can continue as usual.
But it just feels like that's getting way more powerful.
I agree with you.
And I believe when you say that, that this could all in some way be a tool for some sort
of confusion tactic by the government or whatever.
But the knife that's being held to our throats.
we're holding it.
We're the ones holding it.
Like even if they're the ones who fashion the knife,
which is supposed to sedate us,
keep us calm,
keep us feeding off of this fucking slop that is social media.
I mean,
slop, bro.
You go, bro,
I'm inundated with this brain rot all day.
It's rock, dude.
Whether you go to Twitter and it's,
and it's,
you know,
trans Nazis were right and fucking this thing and that thing.
And then you go to Twitch and it's like Gorelock is,
fucking some neon's knee and it's slop the whole it is the it is a world of the dumbest
bullshit of all fucking time it is so stupid but here's the problem to your point we're doing
it to ourselves at any moment of your day you have the option to put it down you're not doing
it's true they're not doing it it is it is a fucking discipline like anything else i had to put
heroin down this is way hard
Way harder. This is way harder. Because I can do it in the car. I can do it at the house. I could do it at the movies. I could do it in class. And nobody's like, dude, why are you doing heroin? This is, this has been right size for us for three year olds. You got three year olds at fucking at Outback looking at this iPad. Watching Cocoa Mellon just eyes glazed over completely sucked into it. I'm telling you, bro. Nothing has ever been more dangerous.
Nothing has ever been more dangerous to the world than this thing.
I agree.
This is the most dangerous thing that has ever happened in the history of mankind.
That is what is so, I don't know, that's what's so scary and so concerned to me is because
we could sit here and have that conversation and say, yeah, just put it down.
It's the same conversation about taxes.
If we all say we're not going to pay and we wouldn't have to pay them.
No, it's not.
It's the same thing.
It's the same conversation.
Because you have to pay taxes or there's a penalty.
The penalty of putting your phone down is actually a benefit.
But you then reconnect with the real world.
But the thing that I'm talking about is the lack of control.
And therefore, the other, a massive amount of control.
Let me scare you for a second.
Go ahead.
Okay.
And the audience as well.
Okay.
When one day we figure all this shit out and we know exactly who shot JFK and what was going on
on Epstein Island and it's time to rise up against the tyrannical government with our
second amendment guns.
going to fucking do it. No one's going to do shit. But that's my point. No one is going to do shit
because either before our current situation where we're spoon fed bullshit all day and everybody's
fat and stupid and wouldn't get off their couch even if someone was kicking their own kid out front
because people are fucking stupid except for a small minority, no one's going to do anything. People
are fucking lazy and they're not going to do anything, dude. There's not. You're right,
but that's what I'm kind of speaking to is that you're right. We can just put it down,
not be as engaged, focus on our lives,
focus on our fitness, focus on our business,
focus on a relationship,
but you can't ignore something
that's also happening regardless
to a mass amount of people
that's going to end up affecting you regardless.
Because you can encourage,
I can encourage a million people to go,
you know what, I'm going to chill, focus on myself,
grind, grind, work, and they do it.
But there's still a massive amount of the population
like 10-fold, a hundred-fold,
that is, they're never going to step away from it.
And that's why.
And you're saying you have to then interact with those people.
So they're going to come into your...
No, not just interact with those people.
Those people are still a part of decision making, a part of voting, a part of all that.
Like, there's still a part of everything that makes our world, our world and our reality, our reality.
Not in our immediate space, me and you right here in this room, they're not coming here and being like,
you can't say that because I'm, you know, we're here and you can't talk.
But what I'm saying is like that is happening no matter what.
And that's why it becomes concerning.
If you talk about the powers that can control and all this sort of shit and whatever,
is because it's happening whether or not we want to participate or not.
yeah but okay so what do you want to so what do you intend to do about that do you know what I'm saying
and it's and it's going to continue to get more and more you know less and less democratized as you
move towards AI and like all of this stuff and people are garnering more and more power I mean what do you
powers moving between private sector and government sector in such weird ways nowadays it's like
I don't know what do you want to do you want to do you want to do you want to do you want to do what
they're doing on Twitter and just blame the Jews for everything.
Like what are you willing to actually do to, to fix the situation?
The only thing you really can do at the end of the day is take control of your own life,
the life of your family members, in instilling good habits in them,
and instilling in them survival skills to survive this weird new world we live in.
You people are so ingrained in their belief set.
If you go to someone on in one of these sects that believes something specific about something with with the most absolute bulletproof evidence of all time that what they're saying is incorrect, they will not budge.
Yeah.
We live in a world where everyone is entrenched in their silos, whether they're doing it for to be a part of something, a community is a lot of these people.
it's the first time they've ever felt a part of something.
Okay, like, you know, not the right or the left, say both,
whatever side or whatever little segment that's a part of it.
This is the first time they ever felt included.
It's the first time they ever felt cool.
They're like, we do this together.
Like, let's all do this together.
Look how many likes I'm getting on Twitter.
Then you've got the real scum, the real straight up scum bags that are doing it purely
for clicks and money that are really the ones driving the majority of the infection.
Those are the pundits.
It's not, bro, the, I'm telling you.
you right now that is a talking point the pundits are worse than the platforms they just are they just are
there has there been some has there been some concerns around suppression absolutely okay 100% but now
you're looking at some of these sites that have much more limited suppression the platforms are
basically saying okay we get it you're not cool with that anymore we're going to kind of let a lot of
this fly especially on x and other sites like that and reddit and all these places there's plenty
of platforms and kick there's plenty of platforms for you to go out there and say whatever the
fuck you want so you can't just blame it on the platforms and the powers that control them
the pundits are the ones driving the infection they're the all of the anti-semitism all of the
you know all of the different things that are happening it's not coming from the platforms
coming from people who want you to click their shit so they can make money do you think any of them
care do you think kandis owens gives a fuck what happens do you really think when she goes to bed
at night. She's like, oh, I really made a difference today
when I was saying Macron's wife is a man.
She doesn't give a fuck.
Clicks, views, money.
Yeah. Pockets. That's it. That's all
they care about. And then they turn around and say, you're a
piece of shit. You're supported by
the Jews. That's a defense mechanism
that you call projecting, right?
Yeah. And if the other, you're supported by
Qatar or Russia, right? Like, it's... I don't
play in any of it. I don't do it. I could have
gone into this space so long ago
into this whole red pill versus
black and all this.
crazy shit and had a crazy commentary channel about this shit never did it because it's fucking
stupid it's stupid it's headline culture bullshit that's not supported by any facts i don't even
consider myself a content creator i don't i consider i just live my life and sometimes a camera
appears i'm not even kidding i'm not kidding there's no concept you know the last time i had a
piece of content where there was a fucking concept i had a conversation with someone about it i just
live my life and somebody's like in the background doing this yeah like i don't want to
play with these people i don't fuck with 99% of this of this community in this industry i come
do this show i drive an hour and a half it's i'm not doing this for any reason i'm not getting paid
i'm not getting new clout i'm not there's no new people have never heard of me watching the show
yeah i'm here because i like you yeah i get it the only reason yeah i like talking to you yeah
there's nothing else in this for me at any point did you i mean that's that seems like a you at now
that's like a you now though but you five years ago you you you you you
did make more moves that were more anticipating certain outcomes, yeah?
Yeah, I think, I think so.
I think, I mean, my thing has just always been collabing.
And the collabing, a lot of times was done in the vein of increased viewership.
You know what I'm saying?
Sure, I'm not going to, I'm not going to deny that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, views were, views were way different when there was Lana's.
Well, I mean, the relationship with Lana was a real thing, but it's,
it certainly was complicated and complex complex with the amount of eyeballs and just the amount
of stuff that was going on but I mean all that to say like I just I don't know it's it's the
it's a good question that you're asking but I just I don't have the answer to it and like I'm now
I'm like old and mature enough to say like I don't know what I don't know and I really don't
know how to answer that question I don't know what you do I don't know how you unplug from it
besides you personally unplugging from it creating better habits for yourself and
and that's it.
Yeah, I mean, at the end of day,
I know it all comes down to you.
Like, that's the reality of all this shit.
Like, you have to check yourself
instead of trying to check other people on Twitter
or trying to argue with people.
I get it.
I just think just knowing that there is this space
that is so entrenched in our fucking society
that is seemingly fucking terrible.
Like, every time I look at it, it's fucking horrible.
I'm just like, man, where does this go?
How does this end up?
Like, where does this all stop at?
And it just seems like it's, it sounds fucked like it's only going to become worse.
And then AI, we talked about it.
Like, it's only going to become like even more shrewd and like pointed and directional
and controlled almost in a sense.
It's just a little scary, I guess.
Just get off the grid.
I mean, truthfully, like I, like, it's been, it's one of the things that's always annoyed
me has been like this whole like, you know, fence sitter and the clout thing and all this
stuff.
do you know how like anti my business model is for me to be telling people right now to stop watching the internet
why else would i be doing that if i really like i'm telling you right now like the internet is
fucking awful the shit that you're seeing like people are like no but it's a helpful tool i have
everything at the you know right and at my fingertip like i can learn about anything
bro if you're doing that god bless you like god bless you if you're really wrong if your algorithm
really looks like that like today's hot science tip of the day but in reality like it's
probably like heal Mike beating the shit out of someone or like hSS tiki-talkie fighting people
in marbea and fucking and like gorelock sitting on someone's head you know what i'm saying and like
that's probably what your algo looks like and togy fucking betting a million dollars on something
and and you know what i'm saying like and and you know god bless all them they're doing great
with what they're doing but it's just like dude like i feel like we've lost
so much of like what life is yeah that this has all become normalized now like it's all so
normal to just sign on and be like bro did you see this video of this dude getting run over by
a fucking train today bro his whole head exploded man isn't that shit crazy and then like two
seconds later it's like a trans man woman murdered 87 children and people are like oh man dude
fuck this trans dude like what the only thing I can think to do is like turn it off man yeah
I get it. I get it. Yeah.
What else do you actually do? Like, what, like, give me another option.
Petition, like, go to legislature, like, write a book about it. Like, I don't know. I don't know what you do.
Yeah. You know, because that's the thing when people talk about, you know, the whole conversation around, like, Jews and stuff.
It's like, you know, the controlling people, whatever controlling groups there are, my mind is like our, I just kind of always go back and
a circle of, even if you were to remove all the Jews or the people controlling from these
things, whoever gets in the place afterwards, they're just controlling at their own
advantage. I'm just like, it's just so, it's just so as a Christian, a 100% baptized at
birth Christian, the whole thing of like, the world is run by Jews. Like every position is a
Jew and it's all this like Jewish I don't even know what to say about it like the fact that
that has become such a talking point to me is like absolutely crazy well it's because it's because
there's so many things like when you when you point to like government officials that like
you can't ignore okay the okay so for example the president of the free world the leader of
the free world is he Jewish I don't believe so okay he's not he's the he's the leader of the
fucking free world is he Jewish?
no is I I'm gonna ask you some questions I don't know what the answer to any one of
you can go well how was he funded was he funded by that I don't know I don't know
you're telling me this little tiny state I'm not saying this is wrong oh you had
what's his name on Nick I want to say this really quick I got shit for that
no I want to say this really quick take out what he's saying that dude is one of the best
orators on the internet he's in fucking his ability to speak is I would
would never, ever want to end up in a debate with that guy.
Dude, he is, he is like true.
And I'll always get flowers to people.
I don't care who they are for the things they do well.
Because keep in mind, on the way, it would be,
I was going to say on the flip side,
on the same side as him,
the greatest speaker that we've seen in modern times is Hitler.
Hitler was one of the greatest orators ever.
Like,
like the reason he was able to create the control that he had
was because he was so charismatic,
so well spoken and and his delivery and his substance was was extremely well delivered.
Okay.
So not to put them in the same bucket.
Jesus.
But what I'm saying is, and I'm not putting him in the same bucket, but he's a very, very good speaker.
Yeah.
He's a very fucking good speaker.
But he's also incredibly intelligent as far as like getting information and and just
off the dome regurgitating it in a way that's like coherent.
Like I can't believe.
How much time do you think he spends on his?
phone every day because some because one thing that I've thought of recently is another thing that
I know for sure is that the phones really the phones really uh mess up your thought your train of
thought so okay so back in the day when you would get bored and you would think about something
you would come up with an idea or a problem you would move to this thing come up with this
scheme to solve it or you would come up with a cool piece of creative or something having to do
with the job you work at nowadays you'll you'll get to step one but then you'll be
taken off course by an email or a text message or an Instagram post or something like that.
And when you go back, you're not back in the same spot.
You would have been if you were if you were on this streamline of original thought like
it used to be back in the day.
These are a huge distraction and a huge like course redirection.
And watching him in the way that he speaks and the way that his brain works,
I could be wrong, but I don't know why I feel like his screen time is low.
I don't know.
I could ask him.
I don't know.
I'd be curious though.
I am too.
I he's like I said he's a he's a very good speaker his the substance of what he's actually saying
I once again he studies it I don't know I mean I'm definitely not the right guy to be asking about it
but I guess I it makes me want to ask the questions of like you know like is Elon for example
the world's richest man is he Jewish no is like the is like the richest man in China right
like was it who is that who was Jack Ma is that who was Jack Ma right one of them
Something like that.
Is that right?
Is he Jewish?
No, but I don't think China's, I don't, I mean, as far as I'm concerned.
What I'm just saying is I'm just saying like all of these people who are the real like
Illuminati size people, the leaders, the true leadership of the world, right?
Like, like the massive billionaire family in India who has the zoo and they're the biggest,
you know, like are they Jewish?
Ambani.
Yeah.
Are they Jewish?
No.
So, okay.
And I understand what you're saying.
So you're telling me this, this state that exists.
uh in this in this war-torn area okay of the world that has been fighting off attackers for
years this this tiny nation has so much power and so much money even though they have no resources
they have so much abundance that they have purchased all of the leaders of the world and the entire
World reports back to Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu because they are just so powerful.
That's what, if that's what you're telling me, that's fine.
But in order for me to believe something that in, in its like simplest and least complex way,
seems a little far-fetched to me like this nation has more power than a nation of 300 million
people that runs the fucking planet, okay, I would need to see some real.
real, real hard evidence to believe it.
Like, and I'm talking about some, some documents, some emails that are like,
yo, dog, you're going to, you're going to go to Epstein Island or we're going to do what?
We're going to release this blackmail we have on you.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, but you think that's not how blackmail works.
You're not going to put in the email that kind of stuff, you know?
Okay, so, so once again, it comes down to one of these things.
We've seen this for years and years and years where, you know, it's more about the donors.
Of course Hillary Clinton.
You know, one thing we know for facts,
Hillary Clinton has her hit squad.
Okay, that's Israeli, that's Israeli funded, okay?
That murders people for her, okay?
But of course, no one would ever get caught.
She would never slip up.
There would never be a single shred of anything
that ever fucking proved anything
because obviously they're not that dumb.
And anybody who had the evidence
would obviously be killed automatically.
I don't think it's a lot.
Where do you land, Brad?
Like truth.
Where do you land? Do you land in the world where you just, where these conspiracies, even when there's no evidence to support them or very loose evidence or light evidence to support them or support something much lower where it becomes this string theory and one thing kind of means one thing.
But when you attach it to another thing, it means all this stuff.
Right. How much of it do you choose as a human to believe? And that's a question you'd ask yourself, you know?
There are just the undeniable are just the amount of like donations and stuff done in our.
Congress and the level of which they vote for things that are in favor for another country,
not our country.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
And I don't understand that.
I don't know if it's a territory thing where certainly Israel has incredible technology.
They've got a really, really good intelligence agency and Mossad.
They've got a lot.
I don't know what we're buying.
But I know that all the attention now is on it.
Do you not think that we're doing the same thing somewhere in sub-Saharan Africa?
Do you think we're not investing money?
Do you think we're not playing that same game with, you know, with Taiwan?
For example, do you know how much money we're probably putting to Taiwan
because we need to have that strategic hold on China?
So why, why, as a, once again, is a Christian who gets $0 from the Jews,
this is a question.
And by the way, I could be completely wrong about all of it.
And I'm here to admit it.
I'm just being the devil's advocate asking the question.
is it possible that this has just become a little bit of a talking thing where all the attention is on this nation to a degree but there there's also like majority of the world also categorized what is doing as like being war criminals right what they're doing is fucked yeah no no no no hold on a second that's not what i'm saying no i know what's going on in gaza is fucked i know but i'm answering it most of the world powers said that is wrong completely wrong and they've all out they've all said this is a war crime right
agreed. There's only one country that hasn't. And there's also one country that told another
country, it's actual literal closest ally, as in geography-wise, Canada. And also, I think we do
about 17% of our trade intercommer trade with Canada. And we were going to put tariffs on a
country that we do 7% of our trade with versus a country that we do, like, I think, 0.4% of our trade
with Israel. The point is, there's a lot of things that go, we go, why is this happening in regards
to them in regards to Israel specifically
in relationship to America
and because there's no answer
that's when you get all the
well this and that and that and that
this this has to do with that and that
because there is an undeniable there where we go
well how are we not how are we the only ones
doing this? I agree with you
and then we talk about intelligence and all this
stuff and we say how it's their intelligence is so
great but then they bombed the same hospital
two times in a row after they killed some journalists
and they kill a bunch of people trying to get the journalists out
what's happening in Gaza is false. And then they say
oops, it's a mistake.
So it's like, there's a lot of things that you see and you go, okay, well, there's a little
bit of an undeniable where we go, everyone's kind of like, this is wrong, but we're still
defending it.
I think there's a difference between the horrors that are going on there and this
broader statement about this overall global ownership.
And I think there's a difference between the two things.
Truthfully, I think, I think Netanyahu has enough trouble with his own people in his country
who are saying, yo, this has gotten way out of fucking hand.
like dude you'll go to Israel you'll see enough
anti Netanyahu stuff there
like they're not just all like yeah fuck
dude the situation's out of control
we we completely get that
taking a step back I have a best selling book
it's great I've done a lot of great stuff
I've interviewed a lot of cool people and had a great time
but truthfully
I have an associate's degree in liberal arts
I smoked crack
okay I really love
I really love girls
and just like having a good time
So, and by the way, like, you cut your finger off last week with a motorcycle.
Yeah.
Okay.
So what I'm going to say here in a microcosm, and I hope the people watching this, listen, is there's a chance that none of us really understand the geopolitical theater as much as we like to think we do.
Okay.
Like, even like the people that truly study it, the pundits like, like Nick and a lot, bro, like, do you understand how much, how many layers?
of shit there is from government, military, intelligence, private sector,
like leisure and travel.
Dude, there are a million sectors and sub-sectors
of conversation involved in this massive dialogue.
So the only thing I'm trying to roll back here,
and the only thing I can do is ask questions.
That's it.
I can only ask questions.
But the questions I'm asking, they don't give me answers that lead me to believe that there's this overall one nation state world of, as opposed to being called Earth, of having it be called Israel.
That does not, that, as of right now, I don't have the evidence to make that, to make that my final analysis.
I do, I truthfully do not believe that Israel just runs the world.
No, I don't think that, I don't think it's that simple, no.
it's certainly simplified enough online these days have you been on Twitter yeah but I don't
I don't think I don't think they say it's not in that exact connotation oh it is Jews have you
never seen Jews run the world have you never seen that sentence I mean I've seen it yeah yeah
but I don't mean I don't think that means specifically Israel itself I think I think they're
talking about overarching industries like you just named government where the power lies and how the
power which okay so the last question I would ask on it and then we could switch to something
far more lighthearted yeah is like which
industry specifically because I've seen stuff
in like music. Pharmaceutical,
Hollywood, that makes sense. Military industrial
complex, all these big companies that
sell weapons, buy weapons. Is there
not Christian or
Muslim represented
competitive entities in those
spaces? It's just, this is once again
a question. They're just all run by
Jewish people. Like if you look at the
military complex, like for example,
he represents a small part of it, but
we had Palmer Lucky on the show.
Right. Is he Jewish? I don't know.
these are just questions that I'm like actually asking like what percentage of leadership is truly represented by Jewish people or these just you know straw man like picking this company is Jewish if you say Boeing or or Northrop Grumman is run by a Jew someone's going to watch that and be like oh okay like that's one of the leaders in in aerospace and in military technology so it's a Jewish own industry but what if there's 40 other companies that aren't run
by Jewish people.
Like, who's doing the analysis?
Is it Nick?
I mean, I think it's a ton of different people.
I'm not doing it personally myself.
I'm just asking the question.
I don't have the fucking answer.
And by the way, 60 years from now,
this is how I'm telling you right now, dude,
like there's no checks.
There's no, like, you can and can't say,
you know that.
Bradley, do you think that Benjamin Netanya
who was calling me and being like,
we didn't really like what you said
on Bradley Martin's podcast about the damage
we're doing it got.
There's nobody.
I'm just a.
random guy dude there's nobody telling me i can't say shit if i wanted to go on a rampage right now
and drop hard r i could do it no if i wanted to go out and just scream out a bunch of anti-semitism
at that i could do it there's no reason i wouldn't do it the reason i don't do it is because i don't
want to do it yeah why would i want to do that okay so what i'm telling you is this in 50 years
i could be completely proven wrong like in 50 years do we may find out that everything i'm saying
on the show and they'll be like ha ha ha
idiot dumbass we wish you cut your finger off on the motorcycle not brad you know that could happen
it truthfully could happen i'm not here set i can only ask questions and someone will answer
those questions whether it's nick or or candis or whoever like they can go through and be like
dude yeah like maybe 98% of the industry is run but i don't know yeah i just go to people's weddings
and officiate you know what i'm saying like i'm out here dame like what you called you got called out by
dad from people that why did that go viral which what was it again he was just like oh you kind of
just got lucky you got the bro i can't even keep track anymore dude it's like i i swear do you like
hating on me is the is the everyone's favorite past but the but all the comments to be fair for you
all the comments were like well fucking mike this is the reason why the show's dope yeah mike mike
you know nothing against logan obviously but yeah but it's just like yeah you're you're you're
you're great at speaking you're great which is another thing last time we did a podcast i don't know
how long ago oh i'm gonna do my pod you're such a
fucking bullshitter bro yeah that was something i want to talk to you about no i know i don't get
he's just still trying to like what what the fuck are you doing it's like a it's like a mix of just
of just of just like bad discipline and just and just anxiety and um mr put the phone now you control
your life no no no no i'm preaching to the choir yeah like don't get me wrong like i i i i mean i'm
I'm on this thing all the time.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just I know I'm aware of the the pitfalls of it.
But simply put, dude, I'll be honest with you, man.
I'm an addict, bro, like through and through.
And I really mean that.
And that's the worst part of the fact that I haven't branched off and done that yet.
Because so we just signed the deal with Fanatics and WWE.
It's been phenomenal.
It's been great.
We've got a new, we've got new, you know, a whole new lease on guests and a lot of
stuff coming in so the show is great and i and i and i will do the show for as long as we do the show
right forever hopefully right but but like truthfully man like i just there's a i have a lot of really
really bad habits uh that range from that range from this thing to how i talk to myself how i think
um that i i just really like haven't been able to get a hold of dude you know what i'm saying
I mean, we talk about, I know we get at least one good, like, mental health segment every time I come on.
And that's one of my favorite things to talk to you about.
But it's, it's one of the hardest things about my lack of acceleration there is that there's people who need to help.
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in this podcast. You know what I'm saying? And I very much want the show to be something that
it makes impact. You know what I'm saying? Because that's that's the one thing that I don't think
people really understand about me. There's obviously like a lot of joking about, you know, the girls
about Logan and that show and the entertainment side of things but like I don't think people outside
of my individual sphere of the night shift and the fifth vital really understand the size of the
impact you know what I'm saying and I've and I've had the the opportunity and the honor to
work directly with and also just indirectly impact so many people that have been fucking
struggling you know what I'm saying and so many people who I mean if you looked at my messages on
any given day it's it's just so many mad i can't even time you know the first thing i did this
morning the first thing i did this morning when i woke up is is have if i can i can show you is have
a full-blown conversation with this guy who messaged me at 857 you can 742 a m you can you can
read the message he said hey man i can really use some advice on recovery i'm 10 days clean and have
never quit before i've listened to your podcast and could relate because i was on oxy for three
years and then age hell heroin for four just need someone to talk to you say you say how you're
feeling but you got to push through it's going to take a minute for you to brain to readjust to everything
but once it does you're going to have a new lease on life everything i have is because i got clean
i made a life for myself and people around me because i got clean you keep you got to keep pushing
that's that's so how long how long until you feel normal again and i told them and i i mean
you can see i'm going to have to get to all that but but basically like well so
So, but, yeah, there's a, there's a ton of shit.
I mean, I guess my point is, like, you know that there's, there's a benefit there.
Like, why are you holding that back?
Well, I'm already, well, I'm already making, I think, I think comfort is, is a horrible thing.
And since I've already, and continue to make a large splash in the space, the, the, the fifth, I don't know if this is even signed or public yet, but the fifth vital will be, we, we just signed for a doc, so a full dock that will go to streamers, um, that we already started shooting.
and we, I believe, are either have signed
or are about to sign with CAA for a full motion for the book,
meaning, like, raised $10,50 million,
like a real project with like a real A list, B list actor,
be potentially the first creator,
part of this creator economy that's had a movie made
about their life, like a full Hollywood motion picture made
based on the fifth vital.
Will it happen, we'll see, I mean, it's still early in development,
it's got to go to screenplay and director and stuff like that,
but.
This stuff is coming and it's happening.
Some Jews got to check it out first.
The Jews have to clear the project and make sure that there's no anti-Israel sentiment.
Exactly.
But no, but I mean, listen, like, like I continue to message it as much as I can.
And that's another reason why I come here because I don't get a chance to talk about it on impulsive very much.
And so to your point, it's a real pain in my side.
It's a real pain point for me that.
If you just started going off on this shit on impulsive, would Logan be like, stop?
it would depend on how it fit into the show does that make sense just because like if he saw
that I was passionate about something and it was something on that that would that made sense to
the conversation because because our show is like very when you when you have a show with another
person and both people operate like a very very high level of dialogue and conversational
acuity we we like dude I'm telling you man like we 500 shows in
now i i don't know who has a one two podcast that has better chemistry than me i mean dude we
the way we know based on the smallest verbal cues based on the smallest like you'll never see
it but he might tap my leg i might tap his leg like if i'm gonna say like you would never see this
shit but it allows us to have a program that's like very seamless and and very like as little
interruption between the two co-hosts as possible so there's no power struggle or any of that
so if I have something that's going to like like innately fit into the conversation that we're having
then he's not going to he's not going to have a problem with it but for it to become like the
overarching conversation that's not going to happen it's just not it's not in his wheelhouse
to talk about mental health like that because he's such a headstrong individual he's never
dealt with it he doesn't it doesn't it doesn't even make sense to him yeah you know what I'm
saying which for a lot of people doesn't there's a lot of people watching this right now that
you know hear mental health and they say to themselves like go lift heavy weights yeah you know
what I'm saying and like like you know like obviously like the whole like Tate era and like a lot of that
stuff kind of push that message like you don't have there's no such thing as a as a chemical issue
it's just simply lift heavy weights eat more chicken you know fuck bitches like yeah and watch your
stock charts you know what I'm saying but like watch your stock you know what I'm saying but like
dude if trauma is a is a massive massive contributor to this shit
Yeah. Like you've seen and dealt with things in your life that other people haven't and they'll
never understand or be or even be able to begin to empathize with what that did to the entire
trajectory of your life. You know what I'm saying? Like like I know about what you've been through.
They do too. You know, like we've, we've all seen the shows and seen the clips. I've got a whole
book about it. Like so, so I'm not mad at people that can't empathize for it. But once again,
that's a reason why I need to push the gas. And so it's like a major like,
been a major thorn for me why doesn't happen just because I'm just so undisciplined bro I find
myself I like a lot of things too I'm addicted to dopamine whether it be travel whether it be
women whether it be new food I mean you see me I'm all over the world I'm 200 flights a year I don't
spend any time in Los Angeles which is where I need to be to like really focus on the project
because that's where all the teams are in the infrastructure and I'm just always moving around
I'm just doing stuff that I shouldn't be doing it I just need to be to get more disciplined
I want to go back to the thing you said about me
and like this the idea
and just an overarching idea of like
you know the Tate era like this is just do pushups
I mean a pussy fuck bitches get money basically right
there is a weird about a little bit
truth to that
100% because I can look back on my life
and sorry how do I how do I preface this
the reason why it's weird
is because you know I was I was young
when like my shit happened in my life
and I don't, still to this day, I can't recognize where I made like a conscious decision
to use it for good and not for bad.
Like what happened to me, the trauma piece, the thing that we were talking about.
Obviously, lose my father at a young age.
I don't know.
There was like, because I could tell a kid now, yo, do this.
Focus on this.
Focus on that.
Go to the gym.
Challenge yourself.
Try to learn something new.
Try to get better.
I could say that.
When I was the kid and it happened to me, I don't know why I was different than my brother, for example, who the same thing happened to him.
He's a year older and he took it in a completely different direction in his life.
Now, the outcomes of our lives are obviously completely different.
His life's great now.
It took him a longer time to get like kind of okay with the situation.
I sort of like enveloped myself in the gym in like these communities that allowed me to have that feeling that I didn't have from my.
father. But I still can't, there was no moment where I was like, oh, I'm making this conscious
decision to use it for good and not for bad. And so that's why it's weird when we have these
conversations around like, yo, just, you know, focus on yourself and pushups and gym and do all the
good stuff, right? Because I had no direction. It was just like I just did it because maybe that's what
just made me feel better or what it's what allowed me to avoid the actual problem. So like I was
doing something that I didn't know was going to turn out to be great for me now because it's
amazing for me now and it built my whole life from it now. But when I was in it, I was just avoiding
it and I was just trying to feel better about myself. So it's a weird, there's a weird thing because
you're right. You're absolutely right. Trauma is a real thing. You can't, you can't never say that's
fake and that's not real because that's like also scientifically proven. It's real. You can't say for hundreds of
Yeah, and then even trauma that we go through, we have a kid and trauma lives in our sperm and it's a part of our fucking children.
Like, that's a real thing that also science has proven.
So there is real tangible evidence to show that like that stress, the cortisol, it's a part of you, it's real.
And then the conversation, like you talk about the Tate conversation around like, you know, depression isn't real or Sneco.
So I do some pushups, whatever, fine.
Shout out Sneco.
Oh, yes, I love Sneco.
So all that can be.
It's funny.
He's quickly, like, because he's another person.
that like what he says like I just take that out of it and I just simply look at how he is in
real life and it's it's such a it's such a fucked up situation because me and it you know me
and him used to spar yeah like online all the time like we would get into it and now like
when I go to New York I'll hit him up because I've hung out with him in real life and it's that's like
that's like the one thing quickly not to like move too far off the topic it's just like how do we
present ourselves as like the right in the right way for the audience to truly know us
and understand, dude, like, you know who I am outside of these podcasts.
Like, I'm, dude, I'm, I, all I'm willing to do is, like, help anybody.
If you call me, you cut your finger off, you want to get hair, you want to do this.
I'm, we'll go out of my way to help anybody, whether it's a person on the street,
whether it's you, whatever.
Like, that's just truly who I am.
Like, I'm just a nice, good, kind person.
And it's, like, trying to present that is not always easy for me.
You know what I'm saying?
On the internet.
Yeah, I think it's just hard to really, like, it's not always easy to present your, like,
true authentic self because especially with a lot of the subject matter and the topics we talk
about um but it's funny because nico's actually like super nice in real life you know what i'm saying
like he's just like a normal he's normal like i see him out like i'll see him out he's at i'll see him
at little sister like he's just out yeah he's a good dude he's a good dude yeah anyways um
there is there is a lot of truth in that tate doctrine it's just the way that it's presented
isn't accurate.
Isn't its whole, yeah, it's not its entirety.
Here's why, because the things that he provides as you not doing them is the catalyst
for your mental issues, that's wrong.
So you, so you're not, you're not suffering from intrusive thoughts in OCD and,
and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, severe depression or severe depression to a point
where like you just don't want to be on this planet anymore simply because you're not lifting
enough weight or you're not eating the right foods but those things are incredible incredible
coping mechanisms for the issues does that make sense right yeah so so for me and this is where
he's spot on the gym cardio working out saved my life getting that energy that nasty morning
negative energy out of my system by going to the gym saved my existence on my hands down.
Without the gym, it's over.
For sure. So, so, and I'm sure you can say the same thing about yourself.
100%.
Eating better, you know, whether it's peptides or healthy relationships with other people, all
the things that he preaches, they're not, the lack of those things are not the rationale
and the catalyst for your mental illness, but they are the ways that you can help treat
it.
Yeah.
Right.
So, like, dude, like, there's no evidence to prove at all that hating the gym every day in a very regimented approach, eating good proteins, vegetables, getting the right amount of sleep, every single day for an extended period of time is going to help you process the fact that your father killed himself.
or the nine years of severe, severe substance abuse
and endless amounts of trauma that I saw with my eyes
and felt with my body.
It's not going to do it.
It's not going to cure it.
There's only certain proven tactics
after hundreds of years of scientific research
that actually works on that stuff.
And that is unpacking and renegotiating with yourself
how you process and how you interpret that trauma,
how you decide to interpret that trauma.
That's like, there's,
consider it four steps.
I was just talking with Logan about this other day.
Like we have,
these are the times of conversations we have offline.
We should have more on the podcast, to be honest.
There's sensory, the first step of everything is sensory input.
What did I see, feel, smell, here, whatever, right?
that's how from a human existence standpoint that's our first data point you had to see or feel
or somehow ingest the fact that your father killed himself you had to do that like as a kid you
had to do that it was presented to you in a sensory way the next thing that you had to do was deal
with the feeling step two is the feeling that that emitted you had very little power over that
especially as a kid,
but in life in general,
a feeling is generally can happen very quickly,
that feeling the pity of your stomach
or your heart dropping or that feeling.
Yeah.
But step three is a true intervention point
and that is how do we decide to interpret that trauma
and continue to play that out in our minds
in a way that is healthy for us.
Yeah.
To go back to the thing you said about working out,
there is actual science evidence that shows,
training consistently heavy like actually working out does actually help you forget trauma
there is actual evidence of that to what like a some percentage or semblance i don't i don't know
exactly the figures like i said it's certainly a day to day i'm not saying it's the only way i'm not
but it's not a cure either no there's no no no you're right the the bigger cure is like yeah
the the altering your perception about it but that's what i was saying when i was a kid like
there was no one no one showed me or taught me to alter my perception and
in a way that allowed me to like stick and be in the gym.
I was just trying to avoid.
My first thought was like,
let me avoid these feelings.
Let me avoid these thoughts.
And ran away.
And the only way that I could do that,
honestly was the gym and video games.
It was non-stop video.
If I wasn't video games was at the gym,
if I wasn't at the gym,
I was playing video games.
And that was,
it just allowed me to escape.
And then I was like,
oh,
I actually just really enjoy this stuff.
So I just stuck with it.
But I guess I'm just saying,
like, I'm grateful that I did something without knowing
that I was like doing it.
And that's the interesting thing now.
I mean, obviously, as a kid, you don't know enough anyways.
But for people now trying to deal with things, it's like, it is that simple, but obviously
it's not that simple.
But it is as simple as like, where's your, where is your thought 100% of the day?
Where is it majority of the day?
Like, where is your thought?
That's really the biggest thing.
Yeah.
Where does your thought travel to?
Because the thing that's also I was reading about this as well, like, and I've even
talked about this on my show plenty of times, but.
the idea of intention
and making your life what it is
is happening 100% of the day
no matter what,
whether you're aware it of or not.
Can I play a quick clip?
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
So whether you're going like,
yo, I want to be better at this,
like, and in your mind you could hear it
and you're saying it and you're going,
I want to be better at the gym,
I want to be stronger, I'm going to be stronger,
I am stronger, like,
or you're not saying that,
whatever that like underlying sort of inner monologue is,
it's real, it's dictating your life.
The only person,
that thinks in your mind, and you create your experiences.
And just for this moment, I want you to catch the thought you're thinking right now
and ask yourself, is it negative or is it positive or is it neutral?
Do you want this thought to create your future?
Now, because we think so quickly and the thoughts just go whizzing through our minds,
it's not always so easy to begin changing our thoughts.
hand start by editing your
speech. Begin to
listen to what you say
and don't say anything
that you don't want to become true
for you.
There are literally billions of thoughts
that you can think and infinite
numbers of things that you
can say.
Make these be nourishing
thoughts. Pick thoughts
that create nourishing experiences
for you.
I mean, bro.
Since I was a kid, since I was a kid, all the way through my addiction, all the way through my use, all the way through every piece of trauma I've dealt in my life, all the way till right as I sat on this couch.
Not a single day has ever gone by where my thoughts were majority positive.
Never, never, never a single fucking day of my entire existence on this planet.
As far back as I can remember, they've always been less than this person doesn't trust you.
this person thinks you're stupid you're not good enough that breaking that cycle as an 18 year old
as a 24 year old as a 38 year old as a 40 year old when you've lived 40 years of that internal
dialogue cycling which has now been in which has now been compounded and made 80 times worse
by by the comparison that you make daily when you look at other people's lives is
such a hard fucking cycle to break bro yeah it is it is it is it is it seems so monstrous of an
idea to even make it through 30 minutes let alone an entire day and and my mind has and
and i fear will be a mom has always been a monster it is a it is a terrible place and it does
not allow me to feel proud. It does not allow me to feel content. It doesn't allow me to feel
safe. It doesn't allow me to feel comfortable in any situation around any person. It's just
not how I'm wired. And that has been, you ask about not doing shows, you ask about not having
kids. That is all I know of life is fight or flight. It's the only thing I know. It's the only thing
I know is trauma is that when I walk out that door something bad is going to happen to me because
that's how my life has been and I've been very very blessed I've been very blessed but for some reason
and this is why it goes back to it does not matter how much I put up in the gym it doesn't matter
if I do 245 to 95 until I start to address that trauma and start to really unpack why the things
happened to me that happened to me when I was 16, 14, when I watched my dad beat the fuck
out of, you know what I'm saying? Or my mom do this thing or smash his windshield or fuck
this up and why I had to have organs removed it. Why I had to have rods put in my femur
and why I almost bled out three different times and why I was always in court and why I was
almost OD'd and why I lost all my friends to overdose and to jail and the fucking all of
the things I've seen my entire life. And it still go to today, which with the things you know
about what happened at my last house and the things that I continue to go through,
that's all my mind knows. All my mind knows is chaos. And I'm just always thinking in that way.
And so not to make it a thing like that, but until you really start to figure out how to intervene
in that loop, you're stuck in it. It's like prison for me. I wake up every day in prison. You know what
I'm saying? Whether I'm free man or not, whether I have money or not, whether I go to the gym or not.
that's truly how i feel it's how i felt my whole it's how i felt my entire life dude whether i have a
girlfriend whether i have a business partner it doesn't matter it doesn't matter what i'm doing
i'm always on edge i relate to that i do heavily and even when i think about my life
doing the good things that i did like you know succeeding in the gym succeeding at these feet
to strength like making dope videos doing all this cool shit the inner monologue was always like
i i have to prove that i'm good enough because i don't feel like i'm good enough and it was
the same thing every day, even as I was getting better, even as I was getting better at
content, better at all the things, I better at, better at anything. The underlying thing was,
I'm not good enough. But I guess my question to you after everything you just said is, have you
seen a shift at all? Have you seen a change at all? Yeah, I think through, I think through
credible victory in life, incredible success, you definitely, dude, like, it's, so to say this,
it's definitely gotten better does that make sense like i've definitely i've definitely started to feel
a little bit better um and and by the way like you know when people ask you like are you happy
like when somebody says to you like are you happy like are you happy with where things are or or even
like when somebody says this person's a genius nuance obviously is something the internet just
doesn't get but you can be very happy in one aspect of your life and very fucking sad in another
you know what i'm saying so to just say i'm happy i'm grateful every day i'm grateful every day
I'm grateful every single day
I'm gotta be one of the most blessed people
on this planet dude to still be here
and to be able to sit here and have the
have the things that I have and
I'm so thankful to God and to my mom
and to the people that I've had in my life
but I would say I've gotten better at some things
and then some things I'm still running from
like it's like dude like after this
when when these relationships
fail bro
it's it puts me into a fucking hole bro like a really bad hole because even though it's
always me doing it and me pulling the plug on it and me walking away from it like it always
has been it just feels like another failure it just feels like another thing that I couldn't
do good enough and that's not always the case and like for people watching this who
are having trouble in the relationships like this is that's been a theme for me like over the
like maybe not right now but like maybe like four months ago like you know i was calling you and like
was really a bad spot just because like i just couldn't make it fucking work it's not about like
wrong person for you or you're the wrong person for them it's just the wrong people for each other
like that's really what it is and you can make a little changes you can you can do your best to like
become a better person and so on and so forth but there's just a lot of times in life where
it's just not the right fit you know what i'm saying and so and so all this to say like
I've learned a lot about myself and I feel like I'm in a much better place,
but I still do live a lot of my life based on living in like a state of like fear like
fear slash slash anxiety just from all the stuff that I've been through.
It's interesting you say it's not the right person and everything in everything you just said
right there right after that was you like you and I'm not saying you're the wrong person
but in this case, you were being the wrong person for yourself,
just like I've been the wrong person for myself.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
But there are people, and you truly have to believe this,
there are people out there who will present themselves in a way
that really provides a place of calm for you,
as opposed to more, more anxiety.
like dude like both of my past relationships have just been really fucking rocky and like fiery
and just like there will be someone out there who provides for you calm and peace but here's the
interesting part right you're right you're absolutely right but is your choice of that person
and your choice of seeing what it is a hundred percent no no no yeah for sure but you know the heart
loves it i mean it's it's you know this this last one i i i i just fell in love very quickly and
And I don't regret any of it.
I don't regret any of it, dude.
It just, it just, I should have noticed that there were incompatibilities much earlier than I did.
And it was like, even with the whole world telling me that they existed, it's the heart wants what it wants.
You know what I'm saying?
And I, and I wanted to fucking adjust and edit.
But at the end of the day, it's like, dude, it's, it's a puzzle, you know, and you've got to find the person that really fits with your puzzle.
And my puzzle is a complex one.
And there's travel and there's, you know.
a lot of uncertainty and and there's always girls around and obviously when I'm in a relationship
I they all I'm done with all of them and I don't talk to any of them and you know all of my exes
have my password to my phone you know like I've no problem with that like there's nothing to hide
you know what I'm saying but but it just it just seems like it's just going to take a
a little bit of a complex person in themselves to to handle this dude because it's a lot
and I have and I do still have a lot of growing up to do don't get me wrong like I really do
like I'm and I'm work I'm working on it in some ways so I'm not but I'm not super worried about it
you know but um long like going back to what we were talking about like I'm happy in some areas
and I feel more confident in some areas which was the question you asked me I do you feel
better at any any places and yeah and like the career world being able to come and sit here
and have a podcast with you and not be sweating like remember when I used to come in I'm just
always sweat because I was so fearful and nervous and like just that cortisol just like rushing
through me. And now I go on, I can go on TV or anything now. Yeah, I remember we even paused
the podcast once. You're like, oh, we could take a minute. And yeah, funny. I did sweat really
bad at Logan's wedding. It was, I mean, it was 150 degrees there. But I had to officiate.
Yeah, I'd officiate in front of all the people. And it was a lot. It was a, it was like a nervous.
Where was my invite? What the fuck? You guys need to, you guys need to catch up.
squash some shit you know i'd love to i gotta come still gotta come on that podcast i remember
we were yeah i know we need to do that we need to i mean bro now it's so chill i mean he's he's
he's a very different person he's got a kid now and you know and wife and it's uh i don't know man
it's it's the the weight of this existence is uh can be gruesome at times man it really it really
can but it's but it is such a beautiful thing and it's just such a blessing to be able to live here
and i think now i think now like i've really just started to feel more i think i think i think letting go
that's the key is just such a powerful thing and just really just whatever it is you believe in
like for me it's god and jesus christ and praying to god you know a couple times a day and being
thankful for the things i'm i'm so lucky to be blessed with and um and everything else is just
going to go the way it goes dude and it's and it's crazy it's like dude we it's like how do you how do you
ever really truly feel even even in the presence of god comfortable you know in this in this
just unimaginable thing that we live which is this world that's going to end and it's all
going to go away at one point our loved ones are and it's just it's heavy it's heavy shit yeah i
don't think i don't think you're supposed to get to a place of just like pure bliss or
No, but I know I'm on the way other side.
Like, I know you can get close to a point where you're like somewhat content and somewhat
peaceful about your day to day.
And, but all, it's all just, you know, a lot of it to the Tate era point is the decisions
we make and how we cope.
And this thing is, is as bad as it gets, bro.
It's not helping you.
It's not, it's not helping you find clearer thoughts.
It's not helping you find nourishing thoughts.
It's, it's nasty work.
It's comparative.
It's, have you been able to step away from that more?
Nah. When I travel sometimes I do. And when I find myself in the presence of people, but a lot of times I come back into these really nasty, like, dopamine drop-offs after these trips. And I find myself alone in my apartment for, you know, a long time. And it's not good, you know? Like, I just getting just nasty, nasty, like, cycles. Even though I'll go to the jam and, like, I'll see people on and off. But, like, a lot of the day will be just be about myself, you know.
Yeah. Which is, you know, it's practice. It's just.
practice dude you know you got to get better at just controlling those those thoughts you know yeah
i i just wonder if we ever come back on this pod and you have a conversation where you're like
yeah i figured it out i guess you don't really figure it out i think that's you don't really figure
it out you get better you get better and better you know and and it's like it's like i think i think
now i've gotten to a point to where i think i spent so many years like so scared of like the
fall off and it's like for all of us it's like dude it's your business of course you're you're
thinking about it now like I think I think you are worried about it for two reasons one because it's
it's your business and you want to make money and support your lifestyle but then two is that ego
that's basically saying like oh like I became irrelevant or whatever and I think for me like
and for yourself as well getting to a point where you're like a decade deep
yeah eight years a decade deep in like oh i can put out a video tomorrow and get a million views
on it or my last ticot got seven million you know what i'm saying and you've watched every wave of
creator come and go you've watched a hundred waves of creators come and go you eventually get to a
point where that second one kind of goes away you're like dude i did this i did this thing i i personally
i'm like you had some great help for especially in the early years all my night shift stuff
is completely separate from that i mean we we do content occasionally but like a lot of the other work
I do has been a spawn of some of it, but I know how hard I've worked. I know how talented I am
in the space. And I feel good at this point about the fact that really any of it could go away
and reinvent as something else. I wouldn't feel like I failed. Does that make sense?
Yeah. We've just been on for too long. We've done too many multimillionaires show, multi-million
view shows on every person's platform. We've done so many commentary gigs and TikToks and
Instagram campaigns and brand deals and it's just this feels I feel like if I had to walk away
from the internet you know tomorrow because I was going to go into movies and producing or business
like we haven't even had this yet that I could do it and I wouldn't be I wouldn't feel like I failed
anything I knew this was coming by the way I waited so long there's not even anybody left earlier on
have you tried yet yeah yeah yeah they said you I had upset it to yeah I believe so or top top did
it's it's it's a people really like it dude it's like pop rocks to me
it's also like a funny uh crystal away it's kind of really do it's funny because it's funny
that it's your product because the crystal breath thing like the meth you know oh yeah it is
great and zinc activated so it actually cleans your mouth and i think zinc is good for a load so
it's good for your sleep it's good for your testosterone
I'm good for a lot of stuff.
My load, yeah.
Who came up with the idea of the pop rocks?
It's all a product of this dude, Chris,
and like a dentist.
Also, bigger question.
Yeah.
A little disrespected.
Why did I not get involved in it?
Equity side. Yeah, why?
Why? Why don't know me in it?
Because it started, because it started at just three creators.
It was just me, Aiden and Banks.
That was it.
Okay.
And then it started to like steamroll out into like MGK and Yodd
you now just did our Amazon commercial
and we just had a call
with Wiz today and like there's a lot
of like bigger like more like
celebrity creators that are coming on now
but a lot of people did get the ability
to like buy in you
probably still could put a little bit of money in
if you wanted to. I just saw it got
since it moved fast bro it's
it's dominating on TikTok shop
dominating like I mean dude
I don't even know how much it sold it sold
millions of dollars bro
it's actually doing really well
fucking snub me like prime dude you still get involved why don't you just get involved in 1010
burger instead 10 10 10 burgers finally we got we got some lease oh i think we're going to
miami aren't you opening in miami what's the timeline it's like six months now yeah so so probably
around the same time we'll probably be opening both we're gonna be in winwood i was gonna go to
winwood but the burgers are already already there's already like four burgers there there's skinny
Louis, Cali, Ted's opening.
Yeah, we did the skinny
little review. My gym's like down the street for that. It's a good,
it's a great burger. It's a great burger. I think, I think they
they're, you've had 1010, right? Yeah, yeah, I had it at the pier.
Yeah. It was fucking good. Yeah. Oh yeah, you had it on the SLS day. Yeah, just snubby.
Just snubbing me, dude. What the fuck, man. Bro, we're not in the same, you, I would
expect to be more mad at like a Nelke or something. You, you got your so closely on
everything. Yeah, but you're so closely aligned with them. Me, Banks and Aden
doing something together made sense because we've done so much shit together in the past.
On the business side.
They told me for like six months I was going to be a part of that.
Then just dipped.
Bro, you really want to be in some Jewish own country?
What the fuck?
I mean, bro, you never know.
Like they run everything.
You know, you're stupid.
Oh my God.
That was funny.
That was a good joke.
Dude.
That was a good joke.
I mean,
I just felt a type.
I felt a certain way because I was like a part of it earlier on.
I was like, what the fuck?
It is what it is, man.
Dude, none of it.
We'll see who even exits.
Like, honestly, bro, it's like, it's like,
the only company that's had an exit so far has been Alani.
Like, other than that, like, I don't think anyone else is even really,
like, no one's really made money.
It's not like somebody's had, like, a huge, like, exit.
Yeah, Alani and a lot of the same people own, uh, prime, obviously, yeah.
They own a bunch of different shit.
But, um, I guess kind of on the,
on the note thing a little bit.
What was your response to that,
the Netanyahu thing?
I'm trying to go back to the whole Jews thing,
but it's not,
it's not about that.
It's not about that.
But I saw a clip where you guys were supposed to have him.
Not supposed to have.
We got the offer to do it.
So who offered?
I don't know.
It was the idea.
No,
no, no, no, no, no.
I don't know who it was,
truthfully,
because I just got a text message in our chat.
That was like, like,
like, do we want to do Net and Yahoo?
I brought, uh,
interview in DC.
see on this date and the and the and the and the and the fucking feedback in the group chat was like are
you fucking kidding me no dude we're not doing that show like what it's just from a from a um
optic standpoint there's just no way to win that because you're just platforming someone that
should not have that level of platform right now yeah you know what I'm saying and I mean
knell learned the hard way like I'm so fucking happy we didn't do that was not no it was
insane dude I mean maybe they had the right you know sentiment rationale to doing it but
but okay the only way you're doing that show right now is if you are like if nick had him on yeah
because then you have someone who's like vehemently on the opposing side make it a debate and
really dig into him and be like dude why the fuck are you doing this why are you not letting aid in
why are you not letting journalists in like asking the real questions right um or or at least
like what's your plan for those things like really like asking the right questions that would be
an insane interview to see nick and and benjamin net yahoo talk that'd be one of the craziest
just that would break the internet he would never fucking do it that would never happen nick would do
it but he would never do it but i thought it was i thought it was insane dude we didn't even get to
we didn't get to cover any like pop culture shit today which i don't mind that actually makes me
happy because we talked about like serious shit and i'm sure the pop culture stuff you've already
heard every breakdown on it's like you know about all the beef with aiden and banks and phase and
like i would assume you have have heard about all that stuff like the view bot stuff like the
You bought stuff, X-U-C stuff, like X-U-C, like all that.
It's like, it's like, I was, I mean, I got to, I get to see it from a, you know,
the Aiden and Bank stuff from a super high level and really like understand like what's
going on there.
And a lot of crazy shit has happened.
I didn't know enough about that because I, I saw it, but I was not, I'm not obviously
not involved in any of it, but I, I didn't see what actually, it just seemed like,
it's just like a lot.
I think there's just always a lot of misunderstanding between creators and it, and unless you
have like and a lot of creators are really young and so unless you have like the skill set to be
able to like navigate these like intricate webs of like you know like there was like money involved
in crypto and you know this coin and all these other crypto influencers and I think a lot of it got
spun out of proportion yeah yeah I think a lot of it got like misunderstood and spun out of
proportion and and just didn't make sense and then you had chicken big Mac happen and like there
was a lot of fucking you know and I'm and dude think about me like my whole circle around
me is like, you know, Aiden's going through,
Banks is going through it.
Tav's even somehow getting smoked for chicken Big Mac.
Like, yeah.
It was just a lot, bro.
That was a, and I was looking around me and I'm like, bro,
everyone's like, because they always call me.
They always call me.
I'm the first caller like, yo, can you get X, Y, and Z on the phone?
Get this person, this person, the phone's fix this now.
Like they always want me to, everybody always wants me to act as like the intermediary
that has the conversation happen.
So you start to get out of line.
I'm going to cut you off and be like, yo, let him talk.
You know what I'm saying?
I've done a thousand of those over the years.
What actually happened?
Do you know?
I mean, it depends on which one.
It's like, it's like, I mean,
Todd, you know,
happened.
I mean,
well,
that was just some silly.
Well,
no,
but that one was fucked up too because that one was fucked up too
because it seemed like Kai pulled that one out as in an effort to find
something against Aiden to like,
that's what I,
that's how I recognize.
Like,
bro, it happened a year beforehand and like they're not out of nowhere.
Like it becomes something that you just want to make a big deal about them.
Yeah,
in an industry,
by the way,
where all those dudes say it.
I'm not justifying what happened,
but I'm just saying, you know how those kids are all
fucking crazy. They all say the shit. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? They say what they say.
Like they're all, the streaming industries says all kinds
of fucked up shit. That's what it looked like. It looked like a way
for Aiden to, uh, for Kai to avoid
Aiden basically. And avoid the conversation
about why he was like,
curving him or whatever. Right. But, but
the MLG thing, I didn't understand
this whole like banks. I don't know.
I think it was, I think it was miscommunication.
I don't think. And I think,
truthfully like looking back
I think Aiden kind of jumped the gun
and made some statements that he then had to
like be like okay like at least
this is this is what I took from it
that he then went back and was just like okay like maybe
this didn't happen you know what I'm saying
and I don't know it's still
it's still really confusing me and it's the reason why
like I don't touch anything related to crypto
it's just too unregulated I just don't
want to touch it you know it's like
you don't hold any crypto no I hold
crypto yeah old big coins
been great the past couple weeks have been fucking
phenomenal. I hold Bitcoin
Ethereum and XRP. I only have Eith.
So for me, the past, think about what
Heath has done in the past. I've been fucking
loving it, dude. Yeah.
You don't have any XRP? Nothing.
I don't play in any of those shits, bro.
Really? I mean, I wish I did
because people have made generational wealth
and especially like the memes and all that
shit. It's been great for people.
I think XRP's next up.
I know. Well, they had a bunch of regulation success
and it looks like they're going to be able to
you know, it looks like they're going to be able to do something.
I don't know what it is.
I don't even talk about crypto and podcasts anymore.
Well, actually, you can now.
Now you could really do anything you want.
But here's a thing.
This whole, like, crime is legal, like thing that's, that's what they say in the crypto world now, like, with the new administration.
It's a, it's like a joke.
It's like this thing they call, say, crime is legal.
As in the rugpole?
As in anything.
Because, like, there was a.
time where you couldn't do anything and the SEC was on everybody's ass over everything and
everyone was getting fine then Trump comes in drops Trump coin drops millennia milania coin goes out and
basically is like bro the leader of the free world dropped the fucking meme coin yeah yeah yeah okay so
I couldn't believe that that was insane insane so then this thing crime is legal was born all
the SEC charges that everybody got and and so but the problem with crime and crime is legal is
a new administration is eventually going to come in.
So I still don't fucking trust crime is legal
because now people are doing shit
under the assumption that the current administration
rule is going to exist for a long time.
But if you get a new leadership in four years
and they decide like,
hey, we're going to go prosecute in retrospect,
like people are going to be fucked.
Yeah.
So I don't even talk about it.
Yeah.
It could happen.
It's, bro, a lot of the people
that got fucked in early,
crypto were fucked on laws that don't even exist that that and especially didn't exist when
they were doing the shit like like criminality happens in retrospect they they'll they'll create
laws and be like you broke this law that didn't exist at the time at the time and they'll come
after you for it i don't even know how how you could even try that though it's insane i'm telling
you bro this is like really fucking crazy early like crypto like not early but like talk about like
2018, 2019, where people were just doing whatever because the SEC was still undecided on if
NFTs were a security or if crypto was a security or if meme coins were security, all of these
things were still so undecided in gray area and wild west. But then they out of nowhere just
decided like, hey, well, this is the law now and you broke it five years ago. That's nuts though.
I think that's insane. But it's how it works. So it's crazy. So it's like this whole like crime is
legal thing, it scares me a little bit because a lot of these people who are out there, like,
flexing meme coins, like pumping mean coins, which are large audiences, if in four years,
like, even if they come back and say, yo, Trump, what you did was a fucking major violation,
he would get pardoned because he was a president, maybe, but all these other dudes who launched
these little coins and shilled them on their Twitter, and by the way, actually made money,
because that's a huge part of it. Yeah. Like, these people made millions of millions of dollars,
unlike people who just fucked around and nothing happened.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, there's a chance that they will get prosecuted in the future.
That's, you know.
So, speaking of prosecution, do you think, uh, did you see the whole thing with Rampage's
100%.
Do you think they're going to press charges against him?
I think they should, unless this is the biggest work of all time and it was fake, which we
know it wasn't now, it was the most, it was one of the worst things that I've seen on the
internet.
Yeah.
One of the worst things I've ever seen on the internet.
Yeah.
There's a, there, there, you, you, you've got this guy.
It looks like he was, he was asked into this wrestling sphere, okay, based on who he was and
who his father is and what he, he fights, right?
Yeah, too.
Yeah.
He gets hit in the head with a can in what seems like either a plan or even if it was unplanned,
he gets hit in the head with an empty, I've been hitting the head with full glass bottles
to a point where I'm bleeding all over the place, stitches all the way down my head on, on, you know,
I've got pictures.
I've posted them before.
I'm soaked in blood.
If that person then came and was yelling in my face and I did what he did to that guy,
to him,
I still should be a felony arrested for it.
Yeah.
Bro, you can't just pummel someone unconscious and then not stop.
This was an hour after the fact when you had a full hour to calm down from this little
tap, which didn't knock him down, didn't affect him.
He's having a conversation about it.
The guy apologized.
Sure, you want to smack the shit out of him?
Even if, even if he got in the ring and knocked the dude out and the dude was unconscious and they walked away, different story.
Yeah.
But to have someone unconscious and pummel them to a point where they are bleeding and basically on the verge of death, there's no, there's no way to excuse that.
If the state doesn't, that's a, that's a malfunction of the state.
And he doesn't, you don't need anyone to press charges.
The guy doesn't have to press charges.
I thought, I thought the organization or he would have press charges.
Once you have, once you have video evidence of someone.
doing that the state can press it all charges it depends on the state i'm sure yeah but but no you don't
need you don't need anybody to say i want to or don't want to yeah no no shot yeah okay i mean you could
look it up but i'm i'm almost positive you do not need the fucking victim to come forward to press charges
oh the state will just it'll be the state versus you yeah the thing that i mean the whole
i want to press charges on top look at this what the fuck happened he fuck dude he
he like punched the shit out of me with his hand is like you know when something
someone really hooks you with their knuckles going to look like you tore by i know i know i do bruise a little bit
easy i'm not gonna lie no like you like no it's it's fine it's fine it's just yeah i bruise easy
he really you know when someone really gets you with their knuckles and you're not expecting it
so you're not flexing you're not ready for it yeah like he came around the side and just drilled
me bro bro he needs to get on the brand risker like yo he actually hit really hard i'm not
gonna lie oh bro look at you tore your shit like i'm not kidding like that looks like a torn shoulder
and it went distal.
Oh, but then all this down here is from cop some of this from cupping.
I had copping on my tent.
No, I know that.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about that fucking black and blue.
I know.
Damn, Tom got a fucking heater on.
Well, the fun.
He hit me hard.
I was just standing there at his party the other night at his birthday party.
And he just,
I don't know what he was doing.
He just hit me hard.
Chicken Big Mac.
Bang.
Literally.
Really?
Chicken Big Mac?
Really?
And I, dude,
Banks was watching.
It was the funniest thing ever.
I took,
I had the fifth bite on my hand because I was like talking on somebody about it.
And I took both hands on.
it as hard as I humanly could and smashed him in the face with it his glasses went flying
like the whole not but he won the war because I got this bruise bro I don't know what happened
but but anyways he dude he's got to be prosecuted he has to be prosecuted there's no excuse
for it you put the dude in the fucking almost into a coma yeah his his dad they're turning into
a race thing you want to have a statistical conversation about the races involved then go have it
I don't care to be involved in the conversation.
I mean, I'm like, I don't know.
You want to get into social economics and per capita and all that shit,
then go have the conversation.
But as far as this thing is concerned,
that dude really fucked up.
He really fucked up.
And it sucks because maybe he's not a horrible person,
but he had a horrible lapse in judgment.
And he's going to have to now learn his lesson through the penalty of law.
And it sucks for his dad.
Because his dad doesn't deserve it.
Yeah.
His dad's such a good dude, man.
Yeah.
I've met him a number of times he definitely does not deserve this and people coming at rampage or scumbags yeah
I mean if you want to bring up the like how like you want to bring up how he was raised me or something like that and you want to have that conversation a respectful way like or even ask questions like did you encourage this type of behavior like is there anything you could have done differently I don't know in some long form setting down the line sure but to just attack him and and and and and try to bury him as a result of what his son did imagine if people did that to
my parents. You know what I'm saying? Like that's fuck. Super fuck. That was horrible, bro.
Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't. I couldn't believe it. I was like, I thought it wasn't even real at
one point. No, that's what I thought too. I thought it was like a work. Like I thought they were just
doing it because at some of the shots missed, well, all on the beard. Yeah. But he connected on
and off of them. It was, it was, it was nasty work, bro. Yeah. It's, it seemed to me it just was probably
like, like you mentioned, it died off. It, you know, it was an hour. It's like an hour after he said,
sorry it's probably he's reading the chat
chat's like oh you're gonna let him bitch you down
like that you know let him punk you like that when chat
like he just fell into the and all the kids
watching it applaud we're
probably so happy that that happened yeah
and we're so
pushing for that to happen and now get to go
and sit at their house and jerk off and
goon and watch fucking more streams well he now
goes and does prison time because
they rile people up and that's the danger
of the stream I'm bro Pete I did an IRA with
Sneco and it was fantastic
bro I loved it really felt good like
me being on the streets, bro, like the amount of interactions I have, dude, like I, so many people
come up.
I go up to so many people.
I would crush IRL, but I do not like that community.
I do not like that, uh, that space.
I think it's the most time.
I've been doing a lot of it.
No, no, no, no, no, no, I like doing it on other people's streams, especially, but I think
it's the most toxic and, and, and, and the viewers of that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, I mean, they're kids.
Yeah.
It's a 14, 18 community.
They don't, they do not understand the things that I say.
first and foremost they just don't they don't understand they don't even know what the word empathy means
they don't understand it they don't understand perspective they don't understand any of that shit it's just out
the window but you could teach it to them no i can't i can't i can't i can't i'm telling you i can't they're
just too young they're just too young they want to watch aiden eat his toenails and fucking
talk about gooning to brecky hill and shit i can't dude i can't it's i'm too old bro if i was 26
maybe but i'm just too it's the problem is i do love it it's so sick like when i was when i was when i
go out on irals it's so sick yeah like i see girls you know girls talk to me and stego ask them to
rate me and we do this thing and that thing and it's just like so fun to me but it's just like having that
fucking always on eyeball and you have to be consistent in streaming you have to that's the name of
the game yeah yeah i don't love me i just have too much other shit outside of social media
going on so much business movies docs impact work like i don't i don't i don't care i have 500 000 or
or 400,000 on Twitch.
Like, I can go fire back up.
Fucking crystal breath.
Crystal breath, she stub me on.
I got to, I,
damn, stop me, man.
That's a bad question to ask.
What?
I'm doing a movie night tonight
with a bunch of girls.
I'm gonna ask if you want to come.
Dude, I'm literally,
I'm flying at four in the morning.
To go to the same stuff.
Because I have a theater at my new place,
like at my new building that I moved into.
And it's sick and you could like rent it out.
And it's sick, bro.
So you could like rent the theater out.
Maybe I'll pull it all nighter
I'm just throwing it out there
dude even though how many girls
It's like seven maybe
Just you with seven girls
I think I might have top come to
Potentially just to kind of even the ratio out
Dude I don't know bro
That's just I don't know
Wait wait wait let me ask you about your Riz real quick
Because like I don't understand you get on podcast
I'm like my life is fucking crazy
I can't figure my shit out
This is nuts
But then you have seven chicks
What do you mean I can't figure my
Bro the only thing I've ever
been good at is is girls i there's talking and talking no what do you think being good at girls is that's fair
that's the whole part of it you know what i'm saying and like people say like oh no it's because he has
money dude like trust me i don't have that much money i have some money but there's a reason why they get
off the yacht to come hang out with me on a little boat you know what i'm saying like dude like i'm a
very very fun and very very plugged in person who can make you know who knows how to have
have a good time and curate a good time.
I mean, you saw the Ibiza trip.
Yeah, yeah.
The visa trip was a trip of the summer.
I don't care who you're comparing it to,
what person you're comparing it to.
I didn't get the end.
We had three.
We spent $700,000.
So unless you were really willing to come and drop
major capital,
we went insane there.
We had three villas that were all 60 to 80,000 euros apiece.
We had two boats.
We had four different chefs.
We had security.
We had fans.
Me and like five or six dudes that are,
Like a couple of them were just from rich families
and just like top came.
That was the trip of a lifetime.
Like honestly, bro.
But you didn't drop the money.
They dropped the money.
No, we all did.
We all threw in it.
I didn't throw,
there was one kid that threw in more than everyone.
I probably threw in like 30 or 40 racks.
Fair.
Probably.
This summer's been an expensive one.
The wedding was expensive too
because I flew my mom out first class.
I had girls come first class.
Like, that was like another like 15 grand.
It's been a really expensive.
to a wedding for
because I got a plus two
I didn't want a plus one
so I asked for a plus two
and he was like that's fine
so then I got them
their own room at Villadayeste
where you brought two girls
or was your mom and a girl
no my mom and two girls
yeah well the mom doesn't count
no but I also do I want to know
the most messed up part about it
truthfully the most messed up part about it
I literally had like maybe
five minutes of time with them
like all the other guys
at the wedding just hung out with them
because I truthfully
we got there, I got him settled in the room
and then literally just started working.
I officiated the wedding, I emceived the wedding,
I had 10-10 burger, I'd my mom there.
We did a pod, a four, three-hour podcast
on the last day of the wedding.
Like, I didn't even get a chance to talk to him.
And that was one of the moments
where I really realized that I waste way too much money
on dumb, on stupid shit.
Because, dude, flying them in,
their room was four grand.
Like Graham Stephan asked me on like the podcast I did with him,
he's like, how much would you say
you usually spend on the first day?
And I thought about it.
I was like, dude, it could be any,
It could, I don't even know.
Like, it depends on which date it is.
Like, it's like some of them are expensive.
But would you,
would you consider flying two girls?
No,
there is not a date.
Absolutely not.
I've been on a date.
And I don't remember the last time I was on a date.
It's all just experiences, bro.
Yeah.
So to the point of the viewer,
some of it is money.
Some of it is money.
Because technically, like,
some of the times,
like we're bringing people out.
Yeah.
But like tonight,
it's like watching a movie,
you know,
with seven.
Yeah.
I feel like it's almost like a Bill Zarian thing.
But I'm not, but I'm not hooking up.
I'm not hookin up with all of them though.
Not.
And I'm not.
I know.
Some of them.
All of them.
Some of them.
I don't know.
We'll see.
We'll see what happens, bro.
But I'm also,
I truthfully have been trying to take some strides to,
it's so,
it's so dumb.
And like,
I'll talk about it with you and like a joking thing of how dumb it is.
But like I have been trying to take some strides to like not glorify it.
Because it's so,
it's fun.
Don't get me wrong.
But it's just like so.
It's all.
list and I don't know it's weird because dude a lot because I'm friends with all the girls and
they're all really cool you know what I'm saying so there is an aspect of it that's like that's just
like friendship and fun and just like having cool people around you know what I'm saying
yeah yeah I get it I get it I mean you can live your life how you want to live your life man
I don't think it's wrong I don't know what I'm doing yeah okay I have no idea what I'm doing
okay truthfully and I do have to go because it's nine no it's fine I can talk you for hours
You already know that.
I love being on the show.
I love you.
I love your audience.
Guys,
go out there,
grab some breath death.
Yeah,
oh yeah.
And thanks for having me back on,
bro.
Anytime you want me to drive an hour
and a half,
I'll come down here.
Everyone message Mike,
ask him why he still hasn't given
Brad any points there.
We'll make it happen.
We'll make it happen, Brad.
You're going to Mike Maylack me
for like Prime?
I'm not going to do that to you,
but never,
Brad.
I'm not going to do it.
I'll give you some money,
bro.
Let's talk about it.
We'll talk about it after the show.
I like the product.
I do. Actually, it's nice. I do. All right, I love you guys every Tuesday. I'll see you guys next week.
Thank you, Mike, for coming on. Appreciate your brother. Peace, everybody. See ya.