RAWTALK - CHESTBRAH ON ZYZZ DEATH, LIFE & MOVING FORWARD
Episode Date: January 24, 2023Let's go back to the basics! We have the popular bodybuilder CHESTBRAH on the pod telling us how bodybuilding saved his life. We talk about the evolution of the fitness world with aesthetics, body bui...lding, fitness, gym bunnies, confidence, & the loss of his brother ZYZZ. He enjoys being in the moment and living his life as well as his growth throughout his journey. Relationships with his brother and focusing on what's important. He talks about his goals to become with the world champion.SPONSORS:HTTPS://www.ro.co/BradleyFOLLOW OUR GUEST:INSTAGRAM:https://instagram.com/said_sergeyevichHTTPS://Www.ShavershianFitness.comSUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL:https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR:https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)
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Okay. All right. This was, this is an unexpected one. I'm very, super unexpected one. But you go by chest bra, right?
Yes, sir. How long did you, how long ago did you decide that name? Well, I'm 37 now. I just turned 37 a few days ago. It's actually really fucking funny how I got the name. And you're gonna fucking laugh. I was 24 at the time, 23. And I was on the bodybuilding.com forums. I'm not sure if you're familiar with them. Oh, yeah. The Misk forums. Oh, yeah, you are?
Back in the day forms, that's all that's all we did back in the day.
Okay, shit.
Before social media, before Instagram.
You're from my generation.
So you might have been around to see some of the stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was a bodybuilding the Com forums and it was called the Misk Forum and I made a thread
and I was super skinny, fucking dwee, really, really skinny.
And I posted a photo of myself wearing an Ed Hardy Stringer, baseball cap backwards and just
like pouting and shit and just like doing a little selfie in the mirror.
And I captioned it, are you admiring my chest bras?
Now, here's me hoping I'm going to get like everyone like telling me how good I look and compliment
me instead dude it turned to about 500 pages of just fucking roasting you roasting i got roasted dude
oh my god how old were you then 24 23 23 yeah 23 so it was pretty intense like i just got
roasted but in i mean i get it like it was a really like funny looking photo and i was like
i was kind of like skinny and shit just thinking i was big and stuff so i posted that my username
at the time on the forums was ecto in 1986 extormorph 1986 yeah yeah and um yeah and then i just
captioned the thread that you admire my chest bras and then everyone just started fucking roasting me
roasting me and then any thread i would make after that they would just call me oh shit it's that
chest bra guy the chest bra guy yeah and at that time aziz had his nickname ziz and he was popping off
and i was like hmm chest bro how did how did how did ziz get his nickname i answered this in the fresh
and fit but i also answer for you bradley yeah um it's a bit another funny story so we were kids
and i could never pronounce his name properly as a kid because i'd i'd
out of Lisp growing up, so I would pronounce his name as Ziz with a huge Lisp.
And here's where it gets super weird.
He didn't even call me by my name, Say it.
He would also call me Ziz.
So I had this running joke, we would just call each other Ziz as little kids.
And then like people around us when they would see us like talk and stuff, they're like,
where the fuck are you guys calling each other Ziz?
Like what the hell?
And then, yeah, he just changed his name to Ziz when he started popping online social media
and the rest is like kind of history.
Yeah.
So let's talk about that a little bit.
Sure.
I didn't know that because, like, it came up to you.
You were at my gym, just the gym just opened.
You were in, you were in there at night.
Yeah, fucking Steve let me in, bro.
Did you speak to him?
It's good.
Yes, that's good.
Okay.
So you're supposed to let you in.
Oh, it was all planned.
Yeah.
Wasn't planned, but like, I thought it was.
I was like, oh, this is way too.
But a good unplanned plan because you're here now.
Because I met you and I didn't even realize.
I've seen you on the internet for sure.
Yeah.
But I didn't realize that you were his brother.
Yeah.
A lot of people don't.
They think cousin or just close friend.
I thought you were a friend, like a homie.
That's just from what I seen.
Obviously, I didn't do enough research into it.
Yeah, yeah.
But when did you guys find the gym?
Because you guys, you're obviously, you're older than him.
Yes.
You're older than he would be now, obviously.
Yes, correct.
When did you guys find the gym?
I started training dude when I was 18.
I just finished high school.
So my story's like just a typical skinny guy who just wanted to get some attention,
a bit of respect.
I was really, really short in high school.
Had a gross per in like year 10, year 11.
I was like 16.
Yeah.
I grew up watching like Van Dan.
Slice Stallonega.
Okay.
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
These are like more idols and shit.
Goats.
And wrestling as well, WCW, WWE.
And at that point, it was like, so heavily ingrained in my brain just seeing like muscle
bound men that I was either going to become a fucking homo or a bodybuilder, one of the other.
Like, it was one of the other.
Like, you know what I mean?
So I had all that exposure therapy like at a young age just like watching these movies,
watching these action heroes.
What about, what about it though did you like?
You know what drew you to it?
Because not everyone gets drawn to it.
A lot of people that say, you know, like, oh, it's not for me.
I think the whole appeal for me was I just saw the respect they would get.
And it wasn't even a woman thing, just the respect they would get from other men by having a presence and aura.
And I just noticed a lot of things, even at a young age, like, oh, wow, these bigger dudes with the rippling abs and the broad shoulders and the big chest, like, they're the ones who are like getting all the attention from like the ladies.
They're the ones who get the respect from the men.
I'm like, all right.
So life seems kind of easy.
maybe if I just get jacked people will take me more seriously yeah and um from a skinny kid
i started at like 110 105 pounds i was like 5 foot 6 5 7 i appreciate you didn't try to use kilos
yeah i really try to do the conversion in my head like i really appreciate that because we
were going to have to go backwards on that shit well that's i mean i've done i've done my education coming
i'm like you know what like they do pounds gallons so you guys don't use we we're completely stupid
when it comes to fucking the metric system yeah so i'm like i had to like i kind of know
the pounds but it was about 110 pounds for the Aussie viewers that's about like 52 kilos yes
yeah yeah and now i'd say i'm probably about 190 pounds 511 so i had a big gross per put on a lot
of weight um left the gym sorry went to the gym um because i was getting bullied in high school
um i was super quiet a little bit awkward when i was younger so like heaps of like kids like pick on me
like the big like bigger guys and i was just like fuck these guys i'm going to show them you know
finished high school bought a gym membership started to train um went to like started a part of
as well just really came out of my shell just met a like-minded group of
individuals that we dubbed the aesthetics crew yeah at the time you might have
heard it popping off around like 2009 10 which is this is so crazy this is like
way back oh yeah yeah so that so I'm kind of curious like okay let's go to your
first point about the the respect the women like when did you start to notice at
that did that actually give you that like did you actually get that benefit like at
what age did you start to realize like oh I'm getting more respect or I'm
getting more women like did you get that thing that you thought you would have gotten
here's the funny thing i always didn't really have a problem with women even when i was kind of skinny
and like geeky i don't know they must have found me charming or cute or funny or some shit because i've
never really had a problem but the type of women that i was attracting once i got like tattoos and
put on a bit of size was like completely different so to answer your question um yeah i mean i did
get what i wanted and what i set out to do was the respect and yeah the women all that came but then
eventually that all that shit really didn't matter and it just became like a love of bodybuilding
which is um yeah kind of where i ventured more into um after especially after like i lost my brother
um i went back to basics because i got lost in the party world and the drug scene and all this
and that and got mixed with the wrong crowd and you know i felt had a big fall and just um you know
a big big downward spiral and i wouldn't wish it on anyone dude like losing a family member and shit
like it's fucking tough yeah but managed to pull myself out of it and just brought it back to basics dude
which is bodybuilding man bodybuilding's always saved me in every fucking way
possible through high school it saved me by giving me confidence by you know making me more respected
around my like around man women were noticing me more then when I lost my brother bodybuilding came
back into my life and pulled me out of depression a second time yeah and then it's like I had a new
lease of training like twice so it's like I was like reborn twice like firstly obviously getting
into the training and secondly would have been like when I lost my brother I had all that passion to
kind of like continue his legacy and kind of just like keep writing his story what's also like
writing my own so yeah let's let's talk about that a little bit um that the thing that i find so
interesting is like this guy still uh ziz gets talked about in in respect to like aesthetics and
in this community and especially online i mean i remember years and years ago he was so poppin like
it was such a crazy thing and like a lot of the kids who came up afterwards like um like the
legend of what is it what was legends of aesthetics like matt august sat gainsley
and then even like David Laid and all these people came and they kind of like after they came after and I think a lot of them I feel like yeah exactly yeah so I guess my question to you is like how have you seen the industry change in regards to like aesthetics and honestly I really like this question man it's it's it's uh it seems like it's gotten like a thousand times more popular like it's only it's only like snowballed even even with the recent like shifting of bodybuilding to like classic and yeah people going towards classic but
How do you think it's changed?
Because at the time when he, he popped out, when Ziz popped out.
It was just bodybuilding.
It was just body building.
You remember.
Exactly.
And he was just like a smaller guy, but still had good lines, good aesthetics.
That's what it was all about.
And that just like people were so like, I don't think they saw a lot of that because
it was most of the time like we were talking.
It was just the guys that you saw were big bodybuilders.
Huge dudes.
And this guy came and got really popular from being like not a massive dude.
A dude just like, you know, more than average for sure muscle.
obviously had a really good look how to you know you guys with the fucking hair thing is
it still blows my mind you guys all never forget the hair yeah and the look so it's like
what do you think that did to the to the culture because it's still like I said people still
reference that kid today and that guy that man you know you know obviously sure honestly
honestly that's a really good question Bradley and I really like these like thought-provoking kind
of questions rather than just like what was his like it's just like I've answered this a million
time so I really like that question first and foremost when I was around 18 the only people
that we had to look up to
with people like Ronnie Coleman,
Jake Hutler, you know,
don't got to say the names,
like just all the grace
in the bodybuilding world.
There was no classic division.
There was no men's physique.
Aesthetics wasn't even a known thing
and bodybuilding was like super niche,
way more niche than it was now.
There was no chicks in the gym,
even training then.
There were no girls in the gym.
I don't remember seeing all these gym bunnies
now that you all see
like doing the little cameras
and the tripos
and everyone's filming everything.
And all the girls came out.
out of nowhere and um they've got the little whole aesthetics thing going on to and i do feel like
that's a huge influence from um what as started and pushed in a younger days men this was the big one
as was the voice for all the young dudes and all the dudes that thought they weren't genetically
superior that thought they didn't have the genetics or you know really they weren't the right
person to become a bodybuilder to get that mass mass size yeah because i think he showed them that
hey like you can still look good you can still have an awesome rig and you can still live a fun life
enjoy bodybuilding so i think he came in and brought a whole new crowd of um young kids into the gym
scene that i don't think originally would have gone into that scene unless he came in and then
the scene just completely changed you just you can see all these kids like mimicking him and um you know
in their own little ways and which is amazing to see like it's beautiful yeah um before that it was just
i would see like just the average gym joe in the gym with his wife beater and his towel and his
bottle and i remember clearly night and day because i've been on obviously like i've seen it all go
down so it's been huge i think like his movement and just him like blessing this world with like
you know just his his wisdom and his physique and his charm um and his charisma managed to sway
a whole new generation of young kids and no stab at bodybuilders but most bodybuilders live very
mundane predictable lives where they just you know they have everything's regimented so it's
so it's super hard to people to connect with these kind of guys you know what i mean so someone like
as came along and he showed that like all these
young kids and insecure teenagers that hey like you guys can do this too but you know what i find so
interesting you're absolutely right what i find so interesting though about the whole process is that
he did this on forms like it wasn't it wasn't there wasn't it wasn't like instagram was the thing
it wasn't like you know youtube wasn't a thing that people were actively doing that's why it was
so interesting that he got so popular on forms like across all different forms where people knew
about this guy was um bodybuilding the com yeah four chan a misk um chat roulet yeah it was crazy but the thing is
he was really smart at what it did and a lot of people forget that he was the ducks
i'm not sure what you guys will call it's like when you're the top of your grade in every like
academic subject like matt's english science like he was like ridiculously like autistically smart
and like he never even studied it was really crazy and he had like 300 students in his class
he'd be topping the class in every fucking subject until he found out about girls when he hit
around puberty around year 10 year 11 and then and then shit just started to go down here
he's like fuck all this dumb shit yeah so he just started like fucking around a bit getting
getting with like girls and stuff like that and he was still incredibly intelligent but he didn't
even like study for his um hc we call it which is like your enter school that you get to go into
like university yeah he did no studies and i think he got like 89 out of a hundred which is like
like i studied my fucking dick off bro like i just studied so hard i'm not as smart as even i got
like 83 and i was like but i fucking studied dude i fucking hated school oh bro
my god i remember like dude being back in school the teachers are just like you're not going
to do shit this and that like you're not going to make it you're going to have like take life
seriously even like dude even like my friends and family around me like just like let go of this whole
like ziz and chess bra thing it's a joke you need to grow up yada yada yada yada i stuck to my guns and
yeah i mean shit i mean that's normal though i mean myself from the matrix man it was tough
yeah it's it's normal though like no one especially i mean you would know i'm gonna tell you
yeah it's the oddity of it though like especially our generation like it was the it would say
it's the first generation that came kind of out of the internet so there was more we copped
we basically copped all the bullshit
and set up the stepping stones
for all these young kids now to enjoy.
They don't get bullied as much as we get bullied.
They didn't go through the shit
that we had to go through.
We were the first innovators,
including yourself, to play and do the social media gig
and then we paved the way for all these young kids now.
Yeah, it's a beautiful thing.
It's nice, man.
It's super beautiful.
But even still, even though we've done that,
and I'm grateful to be a part of it,
it's no matter what, you always run into people
who, especially in your close circle,
and family that's always like no matter even though it's like it's a now a proven thing that people
are doing people still just try to fucking shit on other people just because it's i think it's more
so it's it's just a human thing it's just basic human psychology in nature i feel like that
it's always going to happen but i feel like it's more based on another person the other person's
always going to tell you oh no it's scary it's bad because like they can't fucking do it
exactly they're scared to do it and it's just their subconscious projecting fear like oh shit
if this guy in my pond in my circle does this that i can't do i'm surpassing
see me yeah and i'm like dude like you would have experienced i've experienced i've like lost so many
friends around me just because like i chase my goals and eventually like all of them started coming
true got my wbf pro card and ran multiple businesses and just like you could see like just people
around me just became like kind of like fucking different dude and you would know you know like snarky
weird old friends that i grew up with yeah or entitled them all man i had to get rid of them all
yeah yeah i honestly don't have a lot of friends that i grew up with i have i have a i have a really
solid team now and it took me a real life. Your team become your friends. Yeah. You know, you barter off
each other skills. Yeah. You have friends that are videographers that are lawyers that are trainers that are
you know, drug coaches, whatever it is. But within the industry, they're all like got their little
skill sets and you guys barter and learn and grow together. And I think that's the only kind of like
friends truly that you can have as you get older, as you're in the business world, as you're becoming
successful because no one's got time to be friends with stupid people that are making it anyway.
They're not going to teach you anything. They're not going to aid.
anything to your life. And I know that sounds like a little bit selfish, but I feel like in
this day and age, it's truly hard to find like true friendship. It needs to be some kind of
like beneficial, um, agreement for both parties. Yeah. That's where it gets complicated. I think it
gets complicated there because, um, a lot of people want to step into situations in which there's
benefit to them, but no benefit. Exactly. Yes. And I've been there. Oh, dude. So many times. I had this
kid at the fucking fitness expert in LA fitness expert. I'm not going to say his name. Comes up to me and he's just like,
Hey man, I love you and your bro, like, if we take a photo, I'm like, sure, no worries.
Posts a photo, post it on his Instagram, says I'm, like, I'm his client and he's like
some like trainer and he's like, oh, this is my client.
I'm like, I'm like, dude, I'm like, dude, you're five for two and fucking 150 pounds, bro.
I'll fucking eat you for meal one.
What the fuck you're talking about?
Yeah, it's, it was he like an influencer guy?
Yeah, there's a lot, but there's cloud chaser L.A. types.
You know which ones I'm talking about.
There's, yeah, but there's for some reason.
They have no humility and humbleness.
listen, just like, it's like, dude, if you want to
fucking milk me, just tell me you want to milk me.
Like, right. Don't fuck around. Just like, hey, man,
I want to grow some followers. But that's a thing
nowadays. I've realized, like, some of the younger
guys coming up in the industry, they're just
shitheads who just shit on other people for clout.
Yeah. And it's like, do you not see
what you're fucking doing? Like, are you stupid?
I'm like, oh. And then I had some kid
actually yesterday on my Instagram.
I met this guy once in Sydney. He flew from
Melbourne into Sydney to like, I don't know,
just a train, bumped him to at the gym. I was like, super
nice to him, like, hyperaggressive testosterone
own field dude you know the types yeah yeah and you know taking photos and this and that and it's
just like always trying to size himself up next to me and shit and i'm just like dude man i'm
fucking 37 bro you're 24 like you should be bigger than me you should be training harder than me like
these are things you should be doing like you know what i mean and like don't be comparing
myself to me go fucking like playing your own pond with people your age like it's fucking
stupid i mean ultimately all the and then listen sorry to cut you all this motherfucker asked me to
fucking post a photo of him on my instagram feed is like i'll give you two thousand dollars i'm like
dude, I don't want your money.
What the fuck?
And I'm not going to shout you out.
And he's like, you're not doing you.
You're fake like everyone else in the fitness industry.
I'm like, motherfucker, you've got to pay your dues before you can just decide that you're
going to ask people to fucking post a photo and it's off their money.
It doesn't work like that.
It does not work like that.
It's also corny.
Even if I did, you wouldn't get any fucking followers.
People don't care about the physique.
It's all about the personality.
It's all about being real now.
Especially nowadays.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And that's the thing I think people forget is that they, and you know, when you talk about this,
the hater shit like i've talked about this a few times on the podcast but i think kids fail to realize
like it's if you're if you're basing your success off of tearing other people down eventually
the audience that fucks with you is gonna be like you're fucking lame like they're gonna realize
how fucking lame you are that your only stitch is to like shit on other people or try to make
other people look bad so you look good because then there's nothing really genuine that
you're giving you're just giving hate to cause negativity so that you get eyes on you but then
it's like it's short-lived right there's nothing to sustain it with there's no reason to be there
but the problem is with the social media is that shit gets clicks that shit gets views
controversy dude i posted a video and because i didn't really want to but on my ticot i did a video
natty or not like me and greg do say like he's like natty or not we're just throwing some names out
there uh fucking leave and beef patty all these names and then fucking lo and behold the video
it gets like half a million views on ticot i post a video of me flexing and posing like
beautiful bodybuilding poses artistic you know like nice shit frank zanesk and motherfucking only get like
fucking 10k likes maybe like 50 comments i'm like fuck man i'm like the algorithms against like
masculinity they don't want to see like buffed up dudes posing they don't want to see it it's just
it's based on like it's like girls and drama yeah that's what that's what that's what's sad
everyone gets caught up in that trap you know what i mean so until they like i feel like until they
make it they're going to do everything they can these young kids to get that spotlight yeah it's
tough man it definitely creates like a little bit of a toxic industry especially this one because
it is also the barrier to entry is so thin because it's like you can get a phone getting some some shape
and like be like I'm a fitness guy now and then your your barrier to entry is very low so like
you're going to have more and more people coming in and just firing shots at people to try and like
lift themselves up so it just creates like a toxic environment it's interesting yeah I wish more
kids realize that there's just so much more benefit to the slow game like trying to add value
to people whether you're teaching someone how to train or you're making someone laugh.
I mean, dude, you're a perfect example of that.
Like, I only found out about you in the last two years, but before, I heard your name
popping on the net here and there.
And then boom, like, you know, you just came out of fucking no in the last two, three years.
Like, but you played the slow game.
Oh, yeah.
You know, I played the slow game too.
I've been doing this for like 15 years.
Yeah.
I only just got my pro card last year.
You know what I mean?
So I played a super slow game.
And I think that's important what you said, Brad, like more young people in the industry
need to understand that you can't have it now, now, now, now, now.
And even I had one of my mates come up on this trip with me.
It's like, dude, I just, I want to get more respect from people.
I want to get like the respect that you have, this and that.
I'm like, man, for a long time, people didn't respect me.
Yeah, well, think about your name.
How you got it originally like you said.
Exactly.
They clown the shit out of me.
500 pages.
I was like in my shower.
I was like, fucking crying, dude.
I was like, oh man, maybe like, you know what I mean?
Like, I was upset, dude.
But there's two things that can happen when people shit on you.
You either crumble or you grow.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So they say diamonds are formed under press.
So like some people are made for the pressure and it just helps them to excel in life and grow.
But other people will just fucking become depressed and disappear.
That's that, bro.
That's what separates the winners from the losers.
And that will never change.
Yeah, no, I'll never change.
I'd love to keep my inner, my inner childlike personality and my inner nerd because I feel like it helps me also to connect with the younger people and it helps me to remind myself where I come from and always like stay humble, but also be like proud of who I am in my achievements.
Yeah, absolutely.
So, uh, let's talk a little bit about, uh, I want to go back to
to, I mean, I guess in a sense of achievements, but in relationship to your brother, he's,
he had, had stamped such a thing in this industry that is just like continuing out.
Yeah, I mean, bro, I'll never forget it.
And do you ever, because you're his brother, right, do you ever like stress or worry or think
that maybe you won't have the same sort of effect or do you even care, compare or do you,
you know what I'm saying?
I know exactly what you're saying.
When I was younger, I, I cared a little bit.
like I kind of wanted to be like oh shit like I also want that fame yeah then it got to a point
where I didn't really care for it and it kind of just came to me and I didn't really want it and
now that it's coming to me and like my social media is growing and growing and like my name's
getting out there I'm like shit and I'm like is this really what I want I think it's nice like
don't get me wrong it's nice but like yeah my ideal situation now would be to be like a multiple
business owner and just like disappear into the abyss and like no one knows me I need I'm like
I've already got my exit strategy after I finish competing, after I win my world title.
I plan to, like, exit in about five years, maybe own some properties and just like disappear
from social media, man.
Because like, to be honest, man, like, this shit is like, it's hard mentally, it's draining,
it's exhausting.
And from loving, filming content, blogging, I used to love this shit, bro.
I fucking, I love this so much.
I used to love taking photos and for Instagram.
And now it's like, it's become such a fucking chore that I just, a good day for me would be
not to be on my phone like i'll just like put my phone away i'm like you know what i'm going to
the day going to the beach going for a fucking walk yeah going to a nice restaurant having a nice
breakfast having a nice gym session going for just you know going for like a swim in the sun and
just going to see some friends getting see my family just taking it back to basics and it just
makes me realize like what's truly important and um to go back to the question um now no i don't
really care but i want my message for the people that do follow me and support me to be heard
and to be understood course that um if people are chasing this kind of
lifestyle to chase it for the right reasons don't chase it to be ahead of anyone else or to have
clout and fame and followers do it for the genuine reasons and my genuine reasons going back again
i like to go back to bodybuilding um bodybuilding continues and will continue to save my life for the rest of
the rest of my days on this earth man so for me my main priority now is um to just be a world
champion WBFF pro and are taking seriously as a competitor in the body building world the social
media and all the trolling and festivals and all that kind of stuff was as his thing he was young
he was 22 at the time yeah so my head is completely somewhere else so for me to see him get the
attention and fame that he gets now even more so than me it makes me happy because like I'm the bigger
brother so to me it's like that's my baby brother dude you know what I mean if people still talking
about him like it makes my heart warm and it makes me smile and I hope the whole world knows
his name that's that's what i want yeah yeah so i got to ask how because i've read but how did he
actually die um this is something i actually can't talk about because i promised my parents
shit yeah yeah it's something that i actually do want to talk about and a lot of my followers know
and probably see it in the comment section here i mentioned that i will come out with the truth
in about two three years but then um due to the wishes of my mom and my dad um i kind of had to hold
because they say it's like he he's he's obviously does other drugs that aren't
Cereids.
Of course.
They say he's in a son.
He was very open about that.
He was open about everything.
Extremely open, yeah.
But they're saying it was like a heart attack.
A heart condition, yes.
Yeah.
So I will be coming out with the truth eventually one day when my parents aren't around
to see the after tomorrow.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you think because it would bother them?
So imagine what it, yeah, it would bother them because for many reasons it would bother them.
But I've got the blessing to do it once, you know, once the time is right.
So but you're saying he did have a heart condition.
I can't even answer that
Okay, okay
Yeah, all right
Yeah, but all the truth
Will be revealed in due time
I just have to yeah
Respect my parents
Fair, fair
Can you imagine my position?
No, yeah, yeah, fair
I was curious because I read it
They're like, tell us man
I'm like, I gotta respect my mom and dad
I had to ask because I've read it
But you never really know
Everyone wants to know
Yeah, you know the family knows
You know how bad I want to fucking tell everyone
Dude
It's like this burden on my shoulders
Tell us
Fuck
I know everyone's so fucking mad right now
I know
Can you make how I feel
Can you tell me off camera
Of course
Okay, off camera.
Okay. We can go off camera, yeah.
Because I was just curious.
I've told many people off camera.
Okay.
Tell me off camera, because I'm really interested.
I got you.
And how old was he?
He was 22 at the time.
Fuck.
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
Motherfuck was huge for 22, though.
Imagine he feels around now.
Damn, bro.
Yeah, man.
It's been 12 years, man.
Still got the same hairstyle.
Wow.
Still fucking trained.
Legit, wait, he would have, actually my age?
How? I'm 33.
He would have been a year older to you, my guy.
He would have been 34 right now.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, it would have been 34.
Damn.
We'd have probably made some dope content together.
Oh, fuck yeah, for sure, man.
Damn.
So, okay, let's move on a little bit.
That's, I appreciate it.
Obviously, I understand.
I got you.
I definitely want to hear off camera, though.
You guys, I can't tell you guys.
Sorry, guys.
One day, one day.
You live in Oz most of the time, all the time.
Yes.
And how come you're out here now?
So I got invited onto the Fresh and Fit podcast.
in Miami.
Yeah, so they reached out to me.
They're like, look, man, we're getting a lot of reception
from people wanting to see you on the show.
Just to have a chat with you.
I'm like, cool.
I'm like, all right, I'll make it happen.
Actually, I was supposed to do it last time I came to America six months ago.
I won my pro card last year, and I went to Vegas, partied my ass off,
just fucking had a mad time.
And the boys from Fresh and Fit reached out to me,
and I was just kind of like, just too busy, just doing my own thing,
just relaxing, really, not doing content.
Like, I just finished the comp, you know,
just got the pro cards.
I was fucking, my mental health wasn't all there.
I was just exhausted.
I just wanted to let it all out because you've competed.
So you know, man, like the off season, like for me, my off season consists of me just
like partying and like letting it all out of my system like completely.
And that's what I've done.
So you're, you're big into partying?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just can't do it, man.
Yeah.
I never liked it.
Yeah.
I mean, you either like it or you don't.
And the thing is like, I like, I like dancing.
I like to move around.
Like I'm a bit of a people person.
I like to, I like the music.
Most, most of it is like, I actually.
like the music i like trance i like hard style i grew up on edm so for me like yeah no okay i'm sorry
interrupt what drugs do you take when you party um when i party well now i'm i don't do any drugs
except i smoke weed and i drink alcohol but back in the day dude fucking almost everything man
yeah coke pills like you name it i've done it yeah yeah you ever do you ever do any mushrooms
psychedelics or anything i've never done mushrooms but i've done acid i used to i used to microdose acid
it's really microdose acid to have like every time i'd like getting my own head a little bit and i want
have like an ego death i'll just like have some like i'll tell you a funny story yeah yeah i had this
beautiful dog american staffie and i have this two-story town else not a big place um not big
big enough for an american staffer yeah a big big big ass dog had it for about a year and i had no
idea that this dog was like suffering and upset like i just i was so in love with my dog and i love
my dog so much that i just didn't think there's a space and my house was too small for him and
i was kind of like oblivious to the fact and i think my friends kind of like picked up on it like
hey dude like your dog needs a bigger place like you know what I mean and we're all hanging out
one time in like my homies and we just kind of like microdose some acid and then a few hours later
I remember just like crying dude just out of no I just started fucking crying and I'm just like man
like Max isn't happy man like I could sense it in his eyes like he's fucking depressed he doesn't
have enough for him to run around I can't like he needs to go at least two three walks a day
a dog with this size one walk a day it's not going to cut it I'm like I'm a shit human for
like not being able to look after him like I felt so fucking guilty dude
And the next day, it's like, just that thought popped in my head that never was there.
I started looking for like a family and like home like to adopt him.
You know what I mean?
It took me like six months, but I found a nice family for him.
And that was super like confronting.
So after that, I would use acid to microdose periodically every three, four months just to have like little like epiphanies.
Every time anything was going in my life, I'd do it at good moments, bad moments.
Do you still do it now?
No, no, I don't do now.
Now I just smoke weed.
Yeah.
But it was fun while it lasted.
Psychedelics are amazing.
though man yeah i want to i still want to try mushrooms man like everyone always talks about mushrooms
but i think it's like an american thing because everyone in australia just does like acid yeah
like we just do the tabs yeah it's similar it's did you ever try acid you just did the mushrooms
i've never tried acid no no i've done mushrooms okay many different times they say mushrooms it's like
you're the passenger and you're not the driver and they say on acid you are the driver so you can
control the trip or so they say in the grapevine anyway yeah yeah have you ever tried anything
else like iwaska or anything no
fuck no especially after seeing what happened to
fucking uh what's his name fucking old mate connor murphy
yeah connor motherfucker i did it i hate that guy why
bro he fucking made a video saying that
how's he's really died he got a nose job in thailand and committed suicide
which by the way isn't true um the nose job is true but he didn't commit
suicide so yeah he just made a video for clickbait um yeah we're gonna have to
clickbait this video yeah fuck you connor come at me bro no dude i don't get it though
I mean, he's gone.
That guy's kind of gone now.
Yeah, he's like, oh, man, it's just doing all sorts of.
But I think he was doing ayahuasca, like, really, like, delinquently.
Like, he was doing a ton of it.
Like, yeah, I mean, every day.
Dude, I mean, like, the thing is like, I would have, like, I mean, I'm always down to try everything once.
But after seeing what it did to him, it's like, shit.
Okay, I'm not going to lie.
So it's all about the container you've tried it.
I've tried it.
I've talked to me.
What's it like?
Well, listen, bro, that's, I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
The Connor Murphy thing?
No, I didn't go to prove I did it in here
But I brought a shaman
Yes, I brought one
Yeah
So it's all about how you do it
You know so I'm not gonna lie
I knew about the whole Connor thing too
And I was like
That's gonna be me
And there was a point
I swear to God
There was a point in the trip
Where I was like
I'm gonna get stuck here
Oh my God
And I was like I'm now that guy
And I was like
It's never gonna end bro
Oh my God
I thought for sure that was me
I was like everyone's gonna be like
You remember Brad
That guy's fucking crazy now
Oh my God
I swear dude
What happened then?
But it was amazing.
It was like I had that moment.
Did you have the purge?
No,
I didn't throw up at all.
Which is crazy.
How long did the experience go for?
Talk, like, describe it to me.
Because like, yeah, no, it went from 9 to 7, 8 p.m.
9 in the morning.
Yeah.
So the whole day you were tripping.
Yes, but your reference.
Fuck me.
Your reference of time is completely shifted.
So it felt like two, three hours.
Yeah, like two, three hours.
You don't even know.
Did you have that out of body experience?
Did you see like the elders and like,
in a spiritual realm
and did you go off there
and talk to all these like fairies and shit?
No, so what I understand
I've done it,
I did it once
and I did it just that day
and from doing a little bit more research
I feel like
I don't know,
it's almost like I felt like
I like knocked off the cobwebs
of like a bunch of things
that I'm super anxious
about my life
or like problems
but to go deeper
like what people typically do
is they'll go for like
you know you talk about
the jungle Peru whatever
people go to a place
and they'll do it for like
four or five days straight
yeah it's like a proper ceremony
and yeah
and that's what I did here
but it was only
one day. Apparently like a lot of the people that do it at these retreats of people like
massive trauma and stuff like that. Yeah. Which is kind of why I wanted to do it. I always,
a part of me always wanted to just like let go of his is and just like move forward with my
life. So I've like obviously like I've lived in my life for him and for me. Like obviously doing
like helping him with his legacy and then building my own. But a part of me really wanted to go
to kind of just like let go of it all and just move and start like and forward with like a new life
kind of thing. Do you feel like you? But I don't want to let go of it. I'm scared. I don't want to
forget him when I don't want to let go of him I always want to hold him close to my heart
well you can I mean you can and I think even I'm scared if I do the experience that it's going to make
me realize that I need to move forward and I can't keep thinking about him and talking about him but I want
to but you have moved forward and I don't think I think so too yeah it doesn't sound like you're just
like living for him you know not yeah I agree I agree I might be a bit harsh on myself in saying
that but I mean I think you get what I'm saying I just want like some peace because I have never
got in peace with his death still still never will until i you know i can really come out with
a true message and then save people from dying yeah i'm sure people could read between the lines
but eventually i'll speak out about everything but that's on my back dude and it doesn't feel
good yeah you can probably tell yeah that's that's tough man i mean um fuck yeah yeah it's a big
burden to carry my friend yeah yeah but back on the a oasca yeah yeah yeah because i'm
Because I'm kind of interested now.
You might be like swaying my mind.
I might be like, you might be like getting a call for me in a few months.
This is the thing.
I'll help you.
I'll help you too.
I know all the people.
Oh shit.
So this is the thing.
Bro, this is the thing, right?
What the fuck.
It's, uh, it, you wouldn't just like completely forego who you are.
Like, you know, you talk about this thing that's important for you.
Like, it's all important.
Like I said, the container in what you're doing it and the intentions you set as you go
into it, right?
So you wouldn't just like forego this and never have a relationship with this thing or this
idea again.
Yeah.
It's more like it just, it makes you.
you see yourself more truly for who you are without any sort of filter like ego filter of
like and not like you know when you talk about ego death on acid it's way deeper than that it's
like you can't some a lot of people won't be ready for that no they won't and this is not for
everyone no no I needed it because I was at a point in my life where like I felt like I kept
going in circles on a lot of what was your what was your breaking point then to want to make
you like obviously dive into it and try it um because I think that's important like the viewers know
because like honestly like no one should just like do these kind of things without like building
100% you know what I mean so for me I'm 33 and I've struggled dramatically with interpersonal
relationships throughout my entire life because of my my fear of losing someone right so I lost my
father you lost your father yeah I lost my bro and I have a feel of getting close to people and
friends women mass keep I keep everyone like yeah people get too close near me because if I like you
and I lose you it's going to hurt exactly you know what I'm saying it's exactly that's it so
that's the story of my whole life and even in friendships obviously intimate relationship
relationships with women but also in intimate friendships and like push people
yeah as soon it gets too close my like natural instinct is like let me almost like make
something bad so that I can get away from oh my god yeah exactly what I do with all my
relationships with women yeah updated some nice women and bro let me tell you I'm sorry ladies
for all the fucking shit I've done I push them all the way dude yeah and now that I'm older I'm
like fuck man I'm such a dumb ass exactly and so so I'm so I started getting to that point
I'm 33 and I'm like I want a family and I'm like if I keep doing this I'm gonna
the pod with you saying you want a son and the family yeah and i want that too bro i don't care if people
laugh at that shit like dude like you hit a certain age you just want a fucking family bro yeah i want i want
simplicity and the thing is i just found myself if i kept doing the things that i kept doing
i would never get there and i'd end up alone which i'm that's what i'm ultimately most afraid of
that's what i'm afraid of you know so so for me that was the thing that pushed me i was like i found
myself continuing this this sort of like rinse and repeat actions of like being a shithead
getting like going into some other thing having it overlap the next thing and then going into the
next thing and then fucking that up and like you know not having trust because of all the shit that
I've built up in relationships and and I just wanted to like try to break that cycle so you know
the the medicine the planet helps you to like see yourself like as genuinely as possible like
with no filter and it allows you to really kind of like understand yourself on a deeper level that
it won't allow you to like create excuses because you know when you like you think of something
and like you'll have like 10 fucking reasons why like you're okaying it for yourself.
Your subconscious behavior in your mind.
It's just stop you from doing it.
It's like it's a defense mechanism.
And it's just gone.
And you just see this clear picture and you're like, oh, that's me.
Does it last or you've got to keep doing it to keep it to keep it?
So that's the thing.
It's interesting.
It doesn't, it's not like you're always high, but like you definitely have.
You remember the experience and what you learned from it.
But the thing is like, do you constantly got to keep doing it to have those same?
It's like a one time thing.
I think you can do it once or twice and get a great effect from it.
I think it's something that you can revisit
in time and you can continue to kind of experience.
It's also good for you.
It's not like a terrible thing that's bad for your body.
It's actually like it's full of alkaloids.
It's a natural plant, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, we put worse of things that up.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like people like talking about, you know, the swine flu, whatever.
Yeah, but this is actually, there's actually,
there's actually medicinal benefits to this actually.
Oh, there is.
Yeah.
Okay.
So beyond, beyond obviously the, the psychoactive stuff.
But yeah, man, it does.
stay with you and it has changed my overall just perspective in life in general and obviously like
it doesn't mean I'm just like I don't ever get mad or I'm a completely different person night
and day but like I just noticed myself kind of checking myself more often like just a dumb example
right really stupid example you're driving in a car you cop a little road rage and you want to be like
man fuck this you want to like say some shit and I'll notice I'll happen to me the other day and I'll be
like I'll go like I'll like say it and I'll be like what the fuck am I do it man like this is so
unnecessary like it's not it's not getting me any better it's
not changing the situation.
You have that moment of clarity, that split seconds.
It just happens faster.
This is a bad idea.
Yeah.
I should not go through with this.
Yeah, it happens faster.
Okay.
So that's one of the, I would say, long-term benefits of it.
Like I say, it just makes you more in tune with yourself.
It's dope, bro.
You'd love it.
I mean, I wouldn't mind trying it, but it'd have to be after comp season, that's for sure.
Yeah, no.
Imagine doing it when I'm prepping.
No, no, no.
Fucking hate bodybuilding.
No, no.
That's what scares me, bro.
No, bodybuilding in training, I don't think that I ever change.
It's, I won't lie, though.
training has changed my relationship to it has changed a lot just because like the business stuff
like the the amount of things that i do on the daily just kind of completely changed and when i
feel like when like your business and like your social media really took off and my right to
say that that was the main focus of your life other like overstepping the bodybuilding it had to yeah
it had to be because there was no choice and it was things i had to learn and like you know training
and bodybuilding in general and like trying to like get this point of physique is you have to be a very
selfish right with your time extremely selfish so in that like I couldn't do all the other things that
I needed to do to be able to push forward with those things the way that I really wanted to
so you have to shift focus and now I'm at a point where I'm like really like I just opened the new
gym and I'm like okay I really want to take this serious again and it's out shout out to stay for
the free entry yeah and I bro I hate saying this because it sounds like some shit that my younger
self would have told would have said to my older self now like you're a fucking pussy
that like I shouldn't be saying
I want to get back into it
because I'm still in it
and I still train but not with the same
sort of intensity that I did then
do you miss it bread
I do the simplicity
I do and it that's what I'm scared
but I'm mad at myself
that I let myself get this far from it
it's a nut
it was bound to happen
because you know it's different
it's different between like going to the gym
exactly dude
like anyone who's like fucking killing it
dude their last priority
is going to be their body
they're just going to want to have
a good like
lean physique that's respectable but they're not going to chase like bodybuilding standards like physique
with the diet and the peals and the training and the gear and all that it changes man yeah but it was so weird for me
because like part of my business and my growth and all that stuff and the companies are all related to my physique so then you have this
constant identity crisis too yeah you have like who am i fuck yeah and you have this constant you know need from
your audience and the people who are watching to see more they want to see more to sustain to compete and this and that
i understand but then like you said earlier and this is also really important i just
to like this kind of content that's a little just more introspective a little more self-reflection
i also realize that the same people that are interested in bodybuilding are interested in the sport
they also interested in this kind of stuff because because humans are not to that one-dimensional
where it's like i just want to body build i just want to train uh i have been at moments in my life but
i'm also really grateful that there's there's stuff like this that people also and i think
i think that's where your big appeal comes from is old bradley follows uh to be honest i think
a lot of the appeal is the fact that you're very broad in um your achievements you're very
open-minded with the industry and just revolutionizing the industry, dude, which is why I did
want to reach out to you because I respect what you do, bro. And eventually I want to do the same
thing back home in Australia because it hasn't been done at all. It's a dead thing out there.
Well, shit, if I can help you, man, I would for sure. We'll see how we go, man. Yeah, I'm grateful
that I really appreciate that actually. Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying it how it is, man. Like,
you know what I mean? When I see someone that I'm inspired by who's doing something that I want to
be doing. I want to ask questions. I want to learn. I want to get a pen and paper and just
take notes. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'm that kind of guy. So yeah, man to man, just
massive respect, dude. Thank you. From all the Aussies in Australia. Keep doing what you doing.
Yeah. I, fuck, I got to go to Australia. Dude, you would love Australia. Maybe, maybe you'll be
your future wife in Australia. Shit. Dude. What do you reckon? What do you reckon boss?
Dude, the girls. I know, hold on. This is funny though. Can we talk about the girls?
Bro. Yeah, we can. I know this motherfucker wants to go. He's like, yeah, I saw that
smile on your face boy yeah he's like bradley take me let's go dude gold coast is like a slice
of heaven just like miami but without the degeneracy and the girls like much more sweeter and nicer
like i'm gonna paint australia okay this is so funny i'm gonna paint australia for you okay
picture america but with no guns no hostility and we're a little bit behind so
about 20, 30 years behind, especially on the feminism movement. So even though the women,
even though the women out there are still like, oh, we don't need no man. Like, I can look after
myself. It's not to the level and extent that these American entitled women are. Like the women
out here are fucking crazy, dude. They're nuts. Do they are nuts? How was the talking on this now?
I cannot believe how crazy they are. How was the Fresh of Hit podcast? Did you have a nice panel?
Yeah, I did. Before or after the show. Yeah, bro. I mean, I got to go watch.
Is it up? Is it up? Yeah, dude. It's up. It's up. But, um, holy shit. It's kind of funny. Um, I was just sitting there and like this blonde chick next to me just started flirting with me. And she's like, I'm a witch, but this guy's really cute. I'm a witch. She said she's a witch. Ended up banging her afterwards. Um, it was great. Did she put a spell on you or anything? Uh, I think I put a spell on her, my friend. Yeah. She's in love. You should see my inbox for her. You should see my WhatsApp messages. Hey, baby. I miss you. Sorry, JD. You're stupid. You put a spell on her. Yeah. Oh, that's a lot. You put a spell on her. Yeah. Oh, that's
That's great.
I gave her that great D, bro.
I can't blame her, bro.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, she's just, she's a happy girl.
This Aussie guy comes over.
Why not, bro?
More power to her, bro.
I have a really quick question.
What's a,
it's because this is like a thing
that like the chess bra and this is, right?
Yeah, the girls.
What's a, what's a sick cunt?
Boys.
You don't know what that is?
Dude, I don't.
I thought you'd never ask.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is a sick cunt?
This is funny.
A sick cunt.
be like four different things no i don't know because i always here i was here and i don't know what i
a sikun isn't something you are it's something you become it's something from within it's something just
that's yearning the deep within your heart a fire a spirit a passion to want to be something more
something great that my friend that is a fucking sick but truly what is a sick gun is just a man that wants
the guy out there and get his that loves and respects the people around him um that's good to his mom that
he's good to his dad
he's a hard worker
is genuine
it's nice to everyone
and just treats everyone equally
no matter what
race background religion
size they look like
it's just an overall cool dude
that just brings good vibes
that makes everyone happy around them
and has a kind of like a
legendary cool aura about him
so if someone
was to call you a sick hunt
sounds sick doesn't it
from Australia
it's the ultimate compliment man
it's like
you got to take that shit
and be like thank you
I love this, dude.
I love this.
To be called a sick cunt is just like an ultimate compliment from an Aussie.
But I know out here in America, it's a little bit different.
Yeah, they don't like the country out here.
You're very careful.
You can't just go up to something ago.
You're a fucking sick cunt.
But it's also in the approach and I think the delivery of the message.
Like if you didn't know me, Bradley and you didn't like know about like this sick cun
culture and I just go, hey, sick cunt, what's up?
You're like, who the fuck is this guy?
He's like, this guy's serious.
But like, if you kind of know and like I can't approach him like,
yeah what's up you fucking sick cunt yeah no yeah i'd be like all right he's like
that's respect i think he's saying i think he's saying i'm a legend i'm cool yeah that's respect
yeah a sitcom is um it's something like you got to build up to becoming it's like status
sounds like a top g exactly top g so top g sick cunt i mean the words are very synonymous with
each other yeah i'd have to say so on the panel did what did you guys discuss um we spoke
about um with the ladies what to speak about so basically we spoke about um dating um the
the masculine and the male experience
dating in the Western world
American women compared to Australian women
and just like, yeah,
just talking about the indiscrepancies
and differences between males and females of society
and the gender age pay gaps
and all these sort of things
that were just basically throwing topics at each other
and it just highlighted to me
how fucking stupid Miami girls are, holy shit.
Half of the girls on the panel
couldn't even name three countries
without thinking for 10 seconds, bro.
It's fucking shocking how dumb
some women are and how entitled they are like i'll say it how it is bro it's just it's shocking it's
like society has made it so that a woman's only worth is just their fucking appearance and their
youth so let's talk about that what do you what do you think i mean that's kind of the answer
to what i'm about to ask but we can go in more detail sure how do you think social media has
changed like dating social media's ruined dating bro it's kind of ruined a lot of shit it's ruined
everything dude there's average girls at there they're like a six out of ten and it's like
bitch you're a six you're not a nine understand you're a six and like just understand it and i feel
like i feel like women can be like children sometimes you have to nurture them and take care of them
and look after them if you don't lead them in the right direction and you know just like make sure
they're on the right path then they can fucking lose their minds like women don't go through trauma
the same as men do trauma makes us fucking rise up like soldiers over like the fucking spider bro in the
battlefields bro for the soldiers saw their fucking friends die on the battlefield that fucking wipe
their tear off the face gets get straight back on the battlefield and make them a tougher dude
if a female sees a chick die or some shit happens or fucking hurt her
her bobby pin gets lost in the fucking bathroom she'll have a fucking meltdown bro you know
what i mean it's like the end of the world women aren't made to have trauma women are made to be
protected loved and cared for and that's the job of men and i think it's changed the dating scene
because women also can't handle like praise and and being put on a pedestal as much as men
we have less of an ego with women that comes to that like a bunch of women are like hitting on me
you're hit on you i'm like cool okay this is nice but for a woman having a whole bunch of sims
just sliding in their dms and be hot you're cute hey babe hey stranger flame emoji and like the girl
could be like a five or even a four out the girl could be a fucking whale girls it's easy man they can
just get sex whenever they want and then all these girls start to think that oh shit i'm actually
like better than i think i am because all these guys are giving me attention but no really guys
just want to fuck that's the truth every guy just wants to fuck yeah so what do you so do you think
girls can have guy friends? Hell no, especially if, like, there's attraction there in no way.
Yeah. But if they're ugly, yeah, easily. So, but do you think so then, so then here's the
next question. Do you think a guy would try to be friends with a girl he wasn't attracted to?
Like would a guy ever approach? Genuinely, without having intentions? No, I'm asking you,
would a guy ever approach a girl? Because I, I have this conversation with girls all the time.
I have, I have conversations with girls about this all the time. It's like, do you think that a guy who's
not attracted to a girl will see a random girl and just go up to her and try and be friends with her?
No.
Okay.
So that's what I'm saying.
So fuck.
So because we can't even be friends with like the ugly ones maybe.
I mean you can't.
So it's like I feel like the only situations in which a guy could have a friend.
And then you kind of like you go, you both can get the ick for each other and you're just like, oh shit I see he's a sister and a brother.
Okay.
And then it's like then you can be friends with them because you've already fucked them.
It's like, all right, we're really fucked.
We could be friends now.
Okay.
So, okay, that's one version of it.
But regardless of my point is the main point still remains.
I genuinely don't think you.
you will find a guy who just wants to be friends with a random girl,
like his first intention while he's talking to this girl is to have sex with.
Now, if it happens and then it happens afterwards, now we're friends,
there's one version, right, of friendship.
The second version is like, if your boy is like actually with a girl and that's like your actual boy,
maybe.
But even that is like, maybe that's just time.
I know exactly what you mean.
Even in that situation, dude, I'm the kind of guy that like, if I might have girlfriends,
I'm like, I don't want to know you.
I don't want to talk to you because I've been in positions where like I've had
mates girlfriends like fucking flirt with me or laugh at me like this guy's really funny and
quirky and it's just like it's always ended up bad for me because like it makes my friends like
fucking insecure and I lost like so many friendships because their fucking girls are acting up
even though I'm like righteous and I wouldn't go there it's just like I kind of try to keep a like
a big barrier between like women and my boys you're my sisters and I don't want to know you
too much like don't tell me too much about your life and this and that I don't I don't want to know
we're not crossing that barrier like I know it's like a little bit backwards but it's just like I
just think it's like for me it's like a respect thing like i just don't want to get to know my
mates girls on that personal level like as my mates i don't want to see them as homies like my boys
you know what i mean they're just my boys girlfriends yeah and that's all they'll ever be
yeah what do you think about guys who like i curious guys who play the slow game were like if
they know you're dating someone and then they they're like they try to be friends no but so what do you
think about what do you think about guys who like who like they know you have a girl they
or like that's your girl and then they try to be like friends what do you think about those guys
I think those guys are grimy and slimy, bro.
Yeah.
Like, bottom feet is like, dude, like, just be honest with a chick.
You know what I mean?
Like, you don't need to be going like for your mate's cheeks
or looking at your mate's cheeks and waiting.
Wait, if that right moment, when she's going to break up?
When she's going to leave this guy?
Like, I'm going to take a stab.
Like, dude, that's like predator behavior.
Like, literally predatory behavior.
There's so many women out there.
Fuck, you ain't going to be looking at your mates.
It's also weird how sometimes women will rationalize.
Like, no, they're just my friend.
It's like, oh, okay.
They're fucking dumb.
Women are dumb when they say that.
Bro, like, no.
women keep orbitors around them i've seen it happen i've fucked women and then i've needed like a lift
home and they've called their orbiter and the orbital will come pick me up take me back to my
fucking house give me a fucking sandwich and then drive home and then i'll ask like my chickmate that
i'm fucking i'm like are you fucking this dude she's like no no no no he's just like obsessed with me
and he just takes it and does everything for me so women keep these guys around for mutual
benefits they get gifts they get trips they get fucking car rides they get anything they want
and these are like what we call sims like you know what i mean so i think guys like that are
fucking pathetic if the girl's not fucking you why you staying around for yeah they just like
they're wasting your time they think they think like i'm gonna if i just do enough good and i'm
nice enough because she sees you it's pathetic it's crazy like i was driving and like i was like i was
like i slept with this chick and then like she called up one of her guymates to come drive me
back and i'm like in the backseat like blind drunk and i'm like he's just like and then he's just
like fucking sitting there and like they're having a conversation i'm like in the back seat i'm like
i'm like this is so weird i'm like this guy's getting cucked and he doesn't even know it
I'm like, this is horrible.
I kind of felt sorry for the dude.
You should have said something right when you got.
You should have said something to the female that I was banging.
I'm like, you know what?
I'm like, I like, I like, I like that driver.
He's a nice guy.
You should give him a fucking chance.
Yeah.
I'm sure he's like,
like he's doing all these things.
He's probably treat you better than I ever can.
Like fuck.
Dude.
You know,
it doesn't work like that.
Why?
It was like toxic dudes.
Why?
All right.
We got to talk about it.
Let's talk about it.
Why do you think that is?
It's fun.
And do you think it is.
Okay.
So maybe toxic is not the word.
No, it's the word.
It's definitely the word.
Are we toxic, Bradley?
I have been.
And I totally have been.
But I'm moving out of this.
I'm moving out of this.
I'm trying, man.
I'm trying.
I'm going to see you after my con.
I swear,
I'm not kidding.
I'll see you after my comp.
You're going to walk me through the shit.
I'm changing my life, man.
I can't be there anymore.
I can't do it.
I've done too much of the bullshit.
I don't want it anymore.
I hate it.
I literally just like that.
I want a woman.
I want a family.
I want to move forward.
That's all I want.
why but it's fucking hard to find a normal female i'm thinking of just getting like an incubator like
you know russian brides dot com and just like it like rinaldo did it he bought an egg for a hundred
like he probably paid hundreds of thousands of dollars no one knows who his first fucking
kid's mummies like no one knows i reckon it's a clone i already said this to myself if i can't
i'm 37 if i can't find like a wife wherever you are out there wife you stop fucking around
yeah i want you i want to propose to you stop fucking around i'm waiting for you please yeah
seriously just drop the bullshit dude that you're with now and come to me yeah
Anyway, but I think like, I mean, I already told myself, like, dude, if I hit like 40 plus and I don't have kids by that time and I'm making like good money, I'll probably like, I'll probably get like a surrogate and I'll get like a big like an egg like of like a Scandinavian Norwegian big broad shoulders, six foot tall, you know, blue eyes, strong jewel.
Dog, this shit's comedy, bro.
I respect that.
You know what I mean?
Like, if I'm going to, if I'm going to kid, I don't want it to be a little runt of a litter because I was a little, I was a little fucking runt growing up and I know what it felt like, man.
I had to fucking that jab all these gear
and eat all this fucking food
just for fucking people
to be like oh I guess he's okay
no I want my kid to be born a fucking chat
just to be born fucking jack
born broad shoulders
big tall to have the biggest advantage in life
yeah like fucking crazy
it's crazy right
yeah it is interesting how like all that stuff
does add such a benefit of course
yeah dude look like for example
like a guy who's six four
or a guy who's five foot six
a guy who's six four is infinitely
just gonna have more respect for men
more dating, like, options with women.
Just for the me height of a few inches, it's crazy.
Yeah.
Another thing, I was on this panel, and we were talking to these girls,
and they'll, like, pick three things you want in a guy.
Six figures, six inches below or high or above,
or six foot tall, good looking, or some other things.
Yeah, I can't remember.
They want everything.
They had to only pick three.
Yeah.
They had trouble picking, yeah.
Yeah.
The main ones they picked were looks, money and height.
which was i found surprising that dick size wasn't there very surprised actually but those are the main
three ones and all those girls are like six foot six foot six foot plus and then i told the girls i'm
like the blonde chick that was next to me because she was like so really into me and then i was like
oh guess isn't going to work out i'm 511 and a half i guess i didn't make the cut she's like oh
she's like no you're still good i'm like i'm really not 511 and half i'm actually 511 i was testing
you she's like oh she's like no you're like you're taller now i'm like no no i'm barefoot i'm 511
You get the hair up, though.
I guess the height and the hair and the posture can make me seem taller.
But, I mean, barefoot, like, I'm like, yeah, I'm like 180 centimeters, man.
So it's like, and then I told her that.
I'm like, I don't make your cutoff.
I don't meet your criteria.
Guess this way it won't work.
So it just proves to you that women don't even know what they want.
Because then she fucked you.
Yeah, no shit.
Yeah.
Multiple times.
Bought me cigarettes, bought me, like, weed.
Yeah, you still smoke cigarettes?
He's the funny.
Bro, you got to stop.
I know, I know, I know.
Oh, don't drill me for this, please.
Fuck, man.
In my defense, I only smoke cigarettes, and I'm fucking weird.
Yeah, so whatever.
Like, I only smoke cigarettes when I'm, like, traveling overseas because, like,
the fucking long flights, Bradley stress me the fuck out.
I don't smoke at home.
You sound like my buddy Steve when he gambles.
Like, I don't smoke, dude.
So when I'm, like, traveling, I get super stressed.
I just get a pack, like, a deck of siggies and I just fucking smash them.
And then I get back home and I'll stop.
You don't smoke at all?
No, I don't smoke at all.
Except, like, obviously, marijuana, but that's, like, different.
Like, you're talking about, like, a spliff or, like, in a bar?
No, like, in Australia.
we call them cones so we mix
tobacco and exactly
and I know he in America you guys don't do that
because every time I've done that everyone's like dude
you're ruining the weed what are you doing I'm like this is how
we smoke it back home yeah some people do
that here still oh really yeah yeah so we do like
80% weed and 20% tobacco
so I think that's why I'm probably always craving tobacco
I think eventually I'm going to have to cut out
the tobacco I enjoy smoking it like that man
so I don't know man so yeah
cigarettes are fucked though it's different
even worse you guys are vaping out here man
and putting electric smoke in your lungs.
Yeah, we got to stop.
You know what?
Everyone's just going to stop smoking, hey.
Like that's just bad.
Even weed is bad for your lungs.
I think like anything that you're inhaling can't be a good thing.
Yeah, unless you're smoking like mulling, which is good for your lungs.
It's a plant.
But what's that?
It's a plant.
Mullen?
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You're going to tell me about that later on.
Yeah.
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I'm not trying to tell people to do this, but it will actually ease.
Interesting.
Yeah.
I'll tell you about it after.
Because I don't want these fuckers to be like, I'm going to.
They're going to be like, I'm going to fucking get some mullin.
I'm just going to keep smoking.
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Yeah, yeah.
So do you have fun now or do you have fun?
Did you have more fun then when you first started or more fun now in the industry?
Dude, the crazy thing is I'm actually having more fun now.
Yeah.
I think that's partly because I'm more successful now and I'm making more money.
And because of that, I can do the things that I've always wanted to do like traveling.
I really love traveling.
Yeah.
I like to do nice things for my parents.
Like I help my dad.
um with paying off his teeth he got like his um top and bottom uh implants for his
veneers a bit old yeah no not veney's the actual implants so oh shit super pricing and just
being able to like even like contribute and help with that like made me feel super happy
i actually spoke about it on the pot with fresh and feet and i just i broke down dude
the same way you did about your father because like my dad's fucking done everything for me
my mom my dad bro they sacrificed so much bro they came from russia two immigrants yeah you know
we came here with no english and they did everything man and then to have one of their sons
fucking die and then the other one probably given a hard time through all the trauma and bullshit it's just
like now that i'm a bit older and i'm making a bit of money i just want to make them like make them
happy you know i want to buy nice things for them i want to take them on holidays i want to make sure they're
smiling i want to take myself on holidays travel a lot so i think i'm more happy now because i have
that freedom yeah was it was it what you thought it would be having more money having more
um not really let me tell you um it got to a level where like like i'm making good money not as much as
you but I'm making decent money enough for me to not have to work ever again and just kind of like
keep living all my businesses online like I got my clothing business I got like a male cosmetic
business that helps like guys like with their balding and stuff yeah it's called aesthetic cosmetics
like I know you like you did the transplant and hair transplant yeah I gotta go back to turkey do it
I can help you that stuff man I had a hair transplant would you believe it damn you did
yeah fuck they did a good job right you got a lot of hair well yeah we'll talk later I can help you
out I got all the products man I can help you man so I do that for men because a lot of men
like super scared of like, you know, just like looking after their hair, their skin, their beard
care. So I've got all these things for men like skincare, beard care, hair care, to help men
to look and feel going to be confident. So that's one of my brands. And basically what I'm saying
is like, yeah, when I started popping off and making a bit of money, it was good, but I'm at the
level now. Like, I have the opposite thought. I'm like, you know what? It's going to be scary
if I ever get to a level, like, say you, for example, where I'm making like stupid like money
because I don't know how I will be. I honestly don't trust myself.
what do you not trust
I don't know man
I think I'll do some crazy shit man
I don't know
I just I think I'll think the bodybuilding
will not be taken as seriously
yeah I think that will be like
obviously like taking like a
like a back pedal to everything else I'm doing
and that scares me because I love training
I think partying will be a lot higher
a lot more frequently more overseas trips
more this more that
and then I don't know man
I just I kind of I don't want to make too much money
I just want to make a good amount of money
that I don't have to work and I can just do what I want
and eventually enough to support a family and a wife but i don't want to be like a multi multi
multi millionaire or even like anything like above that because i don't know i think when you have more
money you probably just have more problems so i want to be at a level where i'm like doing really
really good yeah but not too good i know that's and that's a crazy thought to have because everyone
wants to make more money yeah but i'm like on the mindset that you know if i was to choose like for
example if you gave me an option say it would you rather make like two million a year or
fucking 100 million a year i kid you know i promise like maybe for the first year i'll take the
hundred million and then after i see how much it fucks me up i'll be like you know what man i'll just
stick to my one or two million a year yeah money is an interesting thing because it is true more
more money more problems in the sense of like you you guys know you make oh really when you make more
money it's like you have to think about everything you do you have to think about it but also
there's upkeep with everything so if you start to extend your legs and you like have more things that
You need accountants, lawyers, this, that, fucking, it's like you'll need contracts.
You can protect yourself, contracts, insurance.
People don't understand, man.
Yeah.
It's a lot more than I thought it would be, obviously, you know, I didn't, I...
And then a lot of people stop thinking for themselves.
They get managers, this, that, second in charge.
And then you get taken advantage of.
People packing their bags, fucking wiping their ass for them.
And then before they know it, they're like big babies with lots of money.
Like, that's the last thing I want.
I worked hard to get to where I am.
And I don't want to lose that rawness to me through,
through money yeah you know it's interesting thing for sure money's money's definitely it's
tough it's tough i mean what do you think of my mindset and how and what i think of money i mean do you
think that's not the norm but do you think that's the right way of thinking like i mean there's no
right way that's the thing we talk about i guess no exact way it's all really what you want i mean
there's always some people prioritize money way too much over the things yeah there's always a way
to balance it like for your best benefit i mean i think the problem is when people make a lot of
money and then they overspend and they don't realize that they're overspending specifically when
people first make money and then you get taxes hit you but oh my god tax time they'll overspend and
then they'll overspend and then they'll go like wait oh i have to pay this bill because like they
maybe start to spend even beyond where they could means yeah which is like you can obviously you have
money you could spend it but i think people get too like overly excited especially when you first start
making money where you could have a bunch of money and live very minimally and be very very happy
And then have, you know, you have no stress because you have such a large cushion.
That's, that's, that's, I'd say that's where I'm at.
Like, I'm not going to say I'm, like, killing it.
Like, I'm making good money.
But enough to, like, you know, be happy and just relax and not have to be stressed.
Yeah.
That's good.
I mean, that's, I've got made to make more money than me.
And they're like, we wish we'd be in your shoes, just taking photos and videos and just being like a, like a, like a icon, celebrity, whatever.
And just, like, training and just competing.
And just, I try to do everything minimally because stress.
is fucking huge bro stress is a killer and I think people don't talk about the stress of also like
making a lot of money and running a lot of businesses so for me like I want to be in the game for a long
time you know what I mean I look at people like I was saying like Greg Ducay and all these guys
and I seek inspiration from them because like I'm like this guy's 47 he's like fucking putting me
on showing the gym and on his bikes I'm like this is what I want to be when I'm 40s I want to be as
happy as this guy yeah I want to still be partying like this guy traveling with my partner
great parties yeah man I didn't know that hell yeah Greg parties that's what's up for yeah man
Hell yeah, yo, I can even get Greg on this podcast.
You have to, dude.
Greg, I got you on two podcasts, bro.
When does he come to, uh, dude, he's Canadian?
He's, he can't come to America because of some fucking felony from like years ago, some
steroid thing, man.
Oh, I remember that.
Yeah, but he's trying to fix it now and because he's looking to go to like 80, like he's
like his partner's looking to go to EDC and I'm like, he parties.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's what's up.
Shout out Greg.
Like, Greg, like, come to EDC Vegas, bro.
Like, let's all fucking party, bro.
He's like, I can't come to America.
I'm like, dude,
fix that shit and let's fucking, let's run amuck, dude.
It'll be awesome.
Yeah, that's dumb.
I need to get them on here.
And I think that's cool.
I think it's important.
I want to pass this message on like to everyone watching this.
It's important to allow yourself to have fun.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Even to you Bradley, like just to an older bro to like, you know, a younger bro.
I tell you man, it's like, I know like business is like important.
You get to this level.
You have all these responsibilities and stuff.
But I feel like always remember like that inner child in you to have that fun, to have that
freedom and to be able to sometimes.
detach and just really just let loose because I feel like that would make you work harder
and sometimes give you that mental clarity and focus to actually keep carrying on with the
businesses and the like empire that you're running yeah I appreciate that man it's good advice
it's also funny though too because we we let loose on the grand opening day we were oh yeah I saw
the videos you yelled it you yelled at my mate you get out those that was my Aussie mate
Asian dude it's fucking funny so so we're it's funny because I don't know if you saw the
drama that happened but like people were saying they were
mad because the influence the thing yes exactly can i finish before you say anything go ahead go
everyone's always cutting off people and cropping these little shorts and then taking things out
of context i guarantee you someone's going to do with my clip you like chest he's a misogynist
but it's like no dude i'm just passionate and this is how i speak i'm just trying to make my point
yeah but dude like no man like i know what you're doing dude like and then they cut that little
crib and try to make you look like a bad guy yeah fuck that shit bro it's so it's just it's what
it is now it's social media dude they just like drama and everyone's like oh bradley's
time only influencers only it's like no no because you get the whole point was of course invited
influencers to come no shit specific ones wanted them to say everyone else leave so more people can come in
period yeah and it was just like this spun like is a bad guy yeah no shit but like that like it was
described it was saying but yeah they they really did try to make you out to be the bad guy bro yeah
and it's like shit now i'm gonna fucking defend myself so you gotta go and make a fucking video and back
no this is taken out it's same with like Andrew tape dude you know they've yeah they've taken everything
he says out of contest and trying to make him seem like a bad dude but you know what deep down I
think everyone knows that a guy who's like that high value doesn't need to treat women bad or
doesn't need to be fucking holding anyone hostage. It probably has women at his feet. And it's probably
quite like a bit of a gentleman, if anything, to women and like the boys around him. He was super
sweet, super nice. There you go. Yeah. But the problem, the hard part with this situation with Tate is
like this is in his past. You know what I'm saying? Everyone has a past. Yeah, of course.
And when you get super famous, this is another thing. Those people in your past that you burnt,
you know, that girl that you slept with at a party and then one night stand.
that was like regretting it's going to come after you and say that you raped her.
All these things are going to come out because people want your money.
People want your fame, people want your status.
Yeah.
And it's like, none of us are clean.
Everyone's like done things that that was a bit questionable.
But like end of the day, like a lot of these things come and then bite you in a way because these people then come attacking you, trying to, trying to take your money, trying to take down your empire.
Yeah.
Essentially.
Yeah.
You know, like, I've been there.
Yeah.
Not in not the same line for Tate stuff, but in so many of my own ways.
industry and people oh yeah i feel you dude completely myself myself included so you just you have to
have your wits about you yeah and you have to be super self-aware and i think um i think that's important
as well um for the viewers to understand self-awareness don't let yourself get used um know your
value and know your worth so let's talk about that it's tough because i've put myself in positions
where i've even protected myself contractually to not get used but you know in good old
California.
You still get used.
You still get used.
Even, I guarantee you right now,
even though you don't know you're getting used,
there's probably 10 people around you that are smiling assassins that are probably
fucking in the ass and you have no idea about it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So dude,
it's like,
and it gets to a level with like,
you know,
you get that level of fame.
And I've,
like I've hanged out with huge influences.
Like,
not just in America,
like in Brazil,
I've hanged out with this guy named Toguru.
He's got like 6 million followers.
He's making a killing,
drives the Lambeau and Ferrari.
Lives in the fucking outskirts of like the,
of like the favelas in Brazil.
and he's too scared to move from the favelas
because he pays off all the favelas
so they leave him alone
So he gets that respect from the gangsters
That hey this guy's like made a fuckload of money
But he's not disappearing to the rich areas
In Sao Paulo Brazil
He's staying like where he grew up
He's sticking to his roots
So because of that he doesn't get fucked on
But he has to do all these things
So he doesn't get fucked on you know
Yeah
He has to pay off all these people
He has to have all these cameras set up
You know what I mean
It's like at the end like who the fuck can you trust
Yeah
You know what I mean
So you just when you get to that level
You just got to be a good
person man and um it's tough so what i was gonna say was it's tough because it's gonna be true i've been
in situations where i've even tried to protect myself i've done my best in situations i've
like done as much as i could and i still get fuck so then it it sucks because moving forward
you start to go like damn like should i do this again should i stand myself again should i help more
should i get more and it kind of puts me in a position where like i'm like fuck like am i just
going to get hurt all over again you know because i'm like an active like lawsuits with people who are
fucking taking advantage of me to all hell.
That scares me, man.
Yeah, and it's like, I'm talking about like, imagine completely helping to change someone's
life like zero to a hundred.
And then I try fuck you.
And then they, yeah, and then they fuck you.
I'm talking about like a, like, imagine zero dollars to $100,000 a month.
Damn, man.
You helped him that much.
Yeah, I helped him that much.
That's fucking disgusting.
I hate that.
And then they go, you didn't do enough.
Wow.
And then every other person that's in their life is also.
How does that make you feel?
I'm getting angry for you
And I've just fucking met you
And every other person that's in their life
Was some derivative from me
And also put in their life through me
So you made them
You helped them
Yeah
To a crazy degree
Yeah
So you've got a good heart
You want to lift up the people around you
You want to lift up your circle
You want everyone to eat at your table
You want your homies to eat
But then some of those homies aren't loyal
And then shit like this happens
Because like what good is success
If it's all by yourself
Yeah I mean well I have
I mean dude
That's the thing
Yeah of course
But I had a contract
I even had a deal
and they still fucked me.
So it's like I knew what I was getting into
because I've had other situations in the past
where I helped people change their entire business
like go from zero to fucking same thing
but I made a bad deal for myself
and it's fine like I'm not mad
but so then I move forward I'm like okay
let me make good deals for myself moving forward
if I'm involving these people
and I still got fucked man
still said I didn't do enough
and it's just like that shit hurts
because even on the on the
backside of that
imagine doing everything like on the front end
business wise,
getting money, getting all this stuff for them, all this popularity,
get them all these followers, all their shit.
And then even on the back end being for their being there for them personally
when they're dealing with real heartfelt things.
And I'm in that, I don't have to do that.
I don't need to do that, but I'm doing that because that's also like I care.
You're a good person.
And then you get turned around on and they just treat you like,
yo, you didn't do enough for me.
Thanks.
I'm going to go just continue.
And then what does that do?
It makes you cold.
It makes you shut off.
Yeah.
And it makes me go like, damn.
And people wonder why, you know, why we are the way we are.
Like, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
it makes me go like,
should I continue to help or reach out or like give?
It's like fuck helping people
because look what happens every time I try.
Yeah.
And I've been in situations even on social
where like I've even extended myself to help people
and it gets spun on me as if I'm some bad guy doing some dirt.
It's just crazy a shit man.
Like I've had a really,
this industry and the social media,
I've had a very tumultuous like fucking 12 years, man.
Like I think,
you know what?
Hearing a bit of your story, Bradley,
I think we're not too different, bro.
in our mindsets, dude, we've had to go through a lot of fucking shit to kind of like
prove ourselves in a way. And even when we've proved ourselves, I feel like it's still
like, um, not enough for a lot of people. Like, what, what are you got to do for like all this
bullshit to stop? Like, well, you're going to make fucking 50 gyms and then people are going to
like it? You got to open up a fucking church for someone. The thing that I realized, what are you
got to do? Yeah, yeah. Or is this shit going to always fucking keep happening? Yeah, well,
that's the thing that I realized. And I realized this after, this was years ago when this happened
to me. I remember at one point I got just just completely like dragged on the internet over some
shit that was never true. I got dragged to this crazy degree. And I remember every year prior to that
it was like love, love, love. And the content I made was about about my life, about my journey,
about my training. And it was all giving, teaching, showing, talking. All good. And then the minute
someone could frame me as a bad guy, it's like everything went out the fucking window based on what
someone said just like I could sit here like if I sat here and was like you beat up your
girlfriends I could just say that and I could fuck the rest of your career forever and they'll be
like crazy and so that happened to me where everything I did just was like I felt I felt like
even though it wasn't this way entirely my heart and it made me not want to do social media
anymore I was I was like yo I want to stop because I was like all these years of doing this
shit and this whole climb up meant nothing now you see why I want to exit strategy I want
of course I want peace too course I want to peace too course I was
No one wants to go in their mid-40s.
But I've also...
I just be like fucking hammed all that.
I also don't really want to say I just want to exit.
I want to get out because I realized no matter what I do.
It's still going to be a part of you.
Yeah.
And no matter what I do, like, good or bad, good, good, good, bad.
Doesn't matter.
People are going to love me and hate me for who I am no matter what.
And so it's just like, I'm just going to be that.
Just you've got to be yourself, end of the day.
And it's the same with anyone in this space or any industry in general.
It doesn't really matter.
It's not not really pertain.
or just locked into fitness
that could be any industry
you know what I mean
so it's just something
that I feel like a lot of people
just got to understand
and respect
and just see for what it is
Yeah and for the people listening
like whether you're trying to be on social or not
like this this kind of shit can happen
in your personal life
just with friends circles
in businesses
it's just a matter of like
understanding that not everything
that happens to you
is because of you
and this is hard
because a lot of people take response
to this happened to me
oh what like almost like self
like self-infliction like what did i do right yeah like and i think you know where that comes from
that comes from like and i i don't want to like pull on some heartstrings but i think that comes
from like you know like your dad abandoning you and like my brother like dying on me we're always like
trying to please we're trying to people please you know with people pleases we try to help people
and uh we would try to make people smile through our own ways and our own means because we have
the platform to be able to do so but you know sometimes when we we do it and then it gets
taken out and thrown back at us it's just like fuck like I'm just trying to help you know what I mean
like genuinely within your heart you're like I'm actually just trying to help guys like yeah and then
how are you supposed to feel besides from feeling shitty yeah so so where do you go here from
from here with content obviously you want to get the you want to win the world yes the world title
yeah yeah um and this is wbf WBFF yeah okay and where do you go from here as far as content wise
like what kind of stuff do you like obviously you get so you get this
fitness content do you just stop do you make fitness content do you evolve do you change content like
what do you see yourself doing in the next like five years not five years five years is like i hate this
question but i guess i just talking about content wise content not competing in the bodybuilding
side yeah um shit that's a good question um i still see myself making content um because
as crazy as it sounds bradley even though this shit is the fucking absolute
going to be the absolute death of me one day
and my mental health.
For sure.
I like it.
I like it.
I like this.
I like this.
I like everything about it.
Like the fucking lights.
I like the fucking plants.
I even like this.
What the fuck is this?
Jim weed.
I want to drink one of these.
Like I just,
I like everything about it.
Even though it's hurting my soul on the inside.
Yeah,
it's so fucked.
You know what I mean?
I'm crying.
That's so real.
But I like it.
I don't know why I like it.
Maybe the trauma has defined me and I like pain.
Maybe that's why I'm.
I'm a good bodybuilder and I train hard because I like to hurt. Maybe I want to feel the
hurt. Maybe I want to feel the pain. You know what I'm saying? Like maybe I want myself to feel
the pain of like losing my bro, so I don't ever forget losing him because it's like a trauma thing
that I can't let go of. And you know, maybe it's the same with you and your dad. Yeah, but that's what
I'm starting to realize. It's like I want to prove everyone. I want to prove to my dad, this shouldn't
have happened. Yeah. You should be alive. You should have seen the man I became. Yeah. You know what
i'm saying absolutely and i'm getting to a chip on the shoulder kind of i'm getting to a point now though
where i'm starting to realize i need to change that you can't yeah we have to let go yeah we got to let
go dude yeah shit we need a fucking therapist this is it dude this is our therapy right now this is our
therapy right this feels good fuck yeah i don't know where where have you been dude dude i don't
know i know you got to come to america more yeah yeah i will shit ayahuasca after august
yeah yeah we'll do i swear of god if anything happens to me my fanboys are coming for you
you, man. What's going to happen?
If I fucking turn it to Connor Murphy.
No, no, no.
You'll be good.
Okay.
Promise.
Promise me?
Right, promise.
I wouldn't do it.
I wouldn't do it because I was so afraid of it.
All right.
Okay.
Like, I was like,
yo,
this is it.
I'm sure you got some good connects for it.
Oh, yeah,
you're getting me the right people.
Not these fucking shamans that go rape everyone.
No, no, no.
No, no.
I don't want to cock shaman up my ass, dude.
No, no, no.
That's the last thing I want to wake up with a sore asshole, bro.
Fuck.
I'll kill a cunt, bro.
No, no, no, no.
You got, these people are solid, super solid.
Yeah, in America.
Yeah, I mean, well, they flew out here.
They're from Columbia.
Oh, okay.
They're proper then.
Yeah, super proper.
They don't even speak English proper.
Damn, and you did this on your own or you had some homies like to order?
I had a friend help me out.
Yeah.
Yeah, you'd love it, bro.
I got you though.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
You might be getting a call for me.
Yeah, hell yeah.
You'll love it.
When I'm back to a human being.
Yeah.
So, so, so you want to keep making content.
Is it going to be fitness related?
Um,
I don't think so.
I think I'm going to move away from fitness and I'll always be in the fitness world
and I'll always remain a fitness icon, whatever you want to call it, influencer.
I don't fucking know the words you use these days.
But I think I'm going to move away from the fitness content eventually.
I mean, how many videos can you keep doing chest brought trains legs.
Well, that's how I felt.
I'm not going to lie, man.
That's why I felt.
And then you collab with a few people, chest right change arms with Joe Blow.
Yeah.
Chess by doing cars with fucking John Smith.
Like, bro, you can only do so many fucking training videos and
until you get fucking sick of it.
Yeah.
I'm at the point where I'm fucking sick
of like seeing myself on camera.
I'm like, fuck this guy.
And I'm like looking at myself,
I'm like, fuck you.
We're sick.
It's a problem.
And so I don't want to be doing the same content
over and over and over again
because it's not stimulating my mind.
Yeah.
Maybe I might get back on my podcast.
I started a podcast.
It flopped.
And like, and again,
I say that with massive respect
and, you know, transparency
because not everything you're going to do
is going to become a success.
I've tried to run many business.
that failed in the social media and fitness space but many that also were successful but my
podcast flopped so I don't know it gave me a cell test I might try again in a few years
see how I go for flops I'm just going to fucking not try with the podcast but I do want to do other
things man and I'm seeing all these influences like doing like ghost tours or like test taste
testing food like and they're in a particular industry but they venture out of the industry and
they do other things yeah it's like I'm this bodybuilder and now I'm going to like
Thailand to try exotic foods
Or I'm this bodybuilder
And I've never been to a party or a festival
You're not a party guy, right?
Not at all
Imagine you make videos like that
It's like all right
I'm Bradley Martin
I've always been like a serious guy
Bodybuilding businessman
But I'm gonna be a highest
But now I want to get fucked up
And I want to party with Greg Doucet and Chespa
That might be a fucking video
Oh my God
Getting high as fuck on Molly with Greg
Who said chess
That would be something else
That would go fucking crazy
Tons would be like, this is the weirdest, but coolest combo I've ever seen.
It'd be so strange and so weird.
Who are these people?
I think people like it.
Because they wouldn't expect, like, us to be doing that.
I'd be like, well, shit.
So we need us, but we need a few of the younger guys too.
Of course.
That's what it'll go crazy.
I like that you said that.
And I think, and that's what I respect about you, brother.
I like the fact that you bring these young and upcoming dudes.
It's like, it's like, it's like you feel like you're their father.
Damn, yeah, it's true.
And you want to make sure they're going on the right path.
You want to make sure they don't suck
You want to drip feed them
Just a little bit
But not too much
You know
You want to just a little bit
Enough for them
To kind of see the light
But not enough for them
To get tainted by it all
And not enough for them
To become spoiled little brats
So that they work
And they get theirs
And I feel like it's like
You feel like it's your responsibility
I have some good kids
And I have some bad kids
Oh we all have bad kids
I got good ones
And bad
I got ones calling me from Miami
It's like man
I'm at a party now
I've dropped fucking three
Mali and some X
I'm about a die dude
I just want to say
That I love you
I love Z
And I love everything you guys have done for that
I'm like dude I'm like no
I'm like Joe
I'm like stop fucking doing drugs
Get back in the fucking gym
Drink some water too
I'm like drink some water
And make sure you get a good
8 to 10 hours of sleep
Call me in the morning
If you still want to kill yourself
Yeah I don't know
Most of the time they're still around
All the time actually
No one's killed themselves yeah
Good good
Knock on wood
Good that's not what this is
Give me some wood
Yeah we got you right here
Yeah there go solid
I think the a ayahuasca really helped you
I really got to get the shit
No it did dude
Oh my God changed my life bro
yeah that's not that's like that doesn't look like that
it's stupid no it doesn't look like that
it's a nasty shit bro it's like
it's like it's not good it's like it just imagine
I always pictured it's like a fucking plant
and there's just no it is a plant but it's smoke it somehow
it's like boiled down to like a liquid like a like a shot
like a brown shot it's horrible tasting what's it tastes like a
like a very bitter taste like no no no no no no no no no no no no
Yeah, not even that.
Like a, like, you know what, Yeager?
Did you try it, boss?
No, no, no.
He's too afraid.
Not ready for that.
It's like a, huh?
How old are you?
23.
Yeah, not too young.
Imagine like a, like, a Yeager, but like completely viscous and like molasses,
Jaeger and like motor oil or some shit.
Like, it just doesn't taste good.
Oh my God.
But, like, basically like petrol kind of.
Yeah, it's garbage.
But it's, it's incredible.
It'll change your life.
All right.
Chesty tries ayahuasca end of August with our Bradley Martin.
Yeah, come soon.
fucking try fucking ayahuasca but i want to say man i appreciate you coming on amen thank you for
having me in such a short notice yeah it was i saw you and i was like oh this is perfect
and you told me that and i honestly just genuinely didn't know and i didn't that's cool man
any disrespect yeah no no no no no no when you're secure with yourself like those things
don't really matter yeah yeah but i think it's i think it's cool as fucking and hopefully
someday everyone gets to know the truth because i i'm really interested i'm gonna ask you off
camera oh yeah i can't wait to tell you um sorry guys yeah it's coming soon i promise you got
wait for that maybe not soon but it will come one day i just understand my position yeah at some
point but subscribe to the channel uh podcast on itunes on spotify on youtube give this video of a like
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have tell them um my instagram is at said it's spelled like said s a i d underscore segevich
i'll give you the links and all that jazz yeah um and my clothing website that i run is
subversion fitness dot com thanks bradley absolutely again i appreciate the opportunity uh thanks for having me
you for your hospitality and i want to say thank you to everyone that i've had an opportunity with
in america you guys have treated me really nicely and welcome me with open arms all the events
all the people at the fitness expert and you're a sound bloke and uh just now i got your back man
and i hope this can uh form into a little bit of friendship man absolutely don't worry i
don't know it's okay maybe just like later tonight i don't know that's fine it's fine
he might he might uh no i won't i won't die you dude sorry sorry i appreciate you
Easy J, you're a good one, huh?
Oh, give me a hug, give a heart.