RAWTALK - Chito Vera On Fighting Sean O'Malley, PED's Before A Fight & Logan Paul VS. Dillon Danis

Episode Date: September 19, 2023

Welcome back to another episode of RawTalk with this weeks special guest, Chito Vera. In this episode we cover Chito Vera On Fighting Sean O'Malley, PED's Before A Fight & Logan Paul VS. Dillon Danis. You don't want to miss this episode.SPONSORS: MANSCAPED: http://Manscaped.com Use Code Rawtalk at checkout for 20% off your order & Free Shipping.UNDERDOG FANTASY: USE CODE BRADLEY: https://underdogfantasy.com/?_branch_match_id=1230389719484556112&utm_source=partner&_branch_referrer=H4sIAAAAAAAAA8soKSkottLXL8hJrNQrzUtJLUrJT09LzCtJLK7US87P1S%2FQTSpKTMlJrdTNTSwqqcwDAAxdXJ8xAAAASUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK...LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: / @rawtalkclip SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: / @bradleymartyn SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartyn...RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

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chito thank you for coming uh thanks for having blessed blessed to have you i really appreciate you driving all the way from newport down here all the way up here rather yeah um Um, so you, you've been smoking since you were a kid. You smoke, you always smoke training, but never smoke, you don't smoke sparring. Exactly, because I'm not going to fight high. So why change my, the chemicals on my body or the way, I think, because I use mushrooms, psychedelics for the brain. Like, I'm not using it like, because it's trendy, because it's cool.

I do because it's really benefits your brain and, and performance and all that. It's an enhancer of a better life. That's what I see. I research a lot, the micros, blah, blah, blah. But I'm not going to fight high. So, sparring, I go fully sober. After sparring, I smoke or eat motions. Used to, like, you know, get on my head and think about it.

But I run high. Like, I run eight miles before I came here. I saw I was watching your stories. And I took, like, a gram of motions. yo you i'm i had no idea i'm so excited you probably you probably haven't seen much of my stuff or i don't even know if any at all but i talk about mushrooms all the time oh really all the time i knew about you because you always ask somebody when you went in a fight so that's that's like and i like that it's a funny question that's what i like that i'm like i'm like i know you for that

that's amazing but i guess i get to know you more now yeah this is this is really cool so so the psychedelic stuff when did you start dabbling that And how did you understand it to be notches? Because most people think about when they hear about psychedelics, it's like, what's like a party drug, mushrooms, party drug. Or like normal people are half in their head like a hippie, like somebody that doesn't have a job that is a loser

or failing life and do drugs because it's fucked up. It's the opposite. Like, mushrooms are good for your brain. And since they actually came from the ground, it's not something like it's created by men, it's there for a reason. There's a reason all these things are there.

It's just resources that we got on our to like heal, feel better, or sometimes just let go. And you can have a little fun with it, but I do when, it's probably my first experience with motions was like I was maybe, what,

14? And a friend told me like, dude, this is like, you're going to see crazy shit. I was like, sure. Yeah. Let me take a handful. But it's, you know, friends in the beach,

like there's no like a stress or like a battery because it's just fun and games but uh when all this came out all of the studies and people saying like this helps with concussions help with the brain health i mean i get punched in the face yeah weekly yeah and i don't want to have all this success retire when they be set for life i don't enjoy that because i'm going to be like a lee or many other fighters that have a problem yeah with the brain i want to make sure i want to make sure once I'm done doing this because I'm that I'm all in I'm not part time doing it I'm not halfway doing it I'm all the way a thousand percent discipline all in once this is over I want to have fun I want to travel the world with my wife with the kids and have fun yeah but what got

you on to understanding of the the benefits of it because the regenerativeness of the um I'm just a junkie read a lot like I'm into health whatever make you feel better I'm not a guy that fell in love with this one diet. I don't only eat this. I eat everything, but everything raw, everything without package leveling, everything that is just pure food. Like, I don't eat for, for taste. I can cook a meat, a meat like a motherfucker. It's delicious, but I'm not like adding anything. I'm not, I'm not trying to. It's all for function. Yes, all for performance. And you, you've been like that your entire, like, training career? Or did that shift at some point. Well, before I get to understand health, I will eat normal. I would eat rice, meat,

beans. I will have some sugars here and there. I will eat McDonald's once a month. And you just don't know, right? You think it's okay to it like that because you grew up eating at home. You don't know what's good and was bad, but my wife one day started like cooking different at home. She was trying this like, like this is like 10 years ago. Yeah. And she said like cooking like healthy, right? And I will make fun of her like. She would have, like, vegetables. Wait, and for reference, how old do you? I'm 30.

If those, this was in you were 20. You were married and we were 20? I was, we got married when we were 19 and she was 18. Wow. Yeah. Well, we're going to talk about that later, but continue. We got three kids, by the way. Man.

She got pregnant when she was 17, so yeah, we've been together our whole fucking life. That's amazing. So one day she started cooking just different, right? Like, I would see, like, raw veggies, small portions of carbs. It's not enough to get you through. clean protein just salt and pepper not too much seasoning like this is like kind of like very basic place and I was like what is that like she's like no I've been reading like green juices and this and that and smoothies and eating better and cut all the sugars you can

eat as much natural sugar you want you can eat mangoes wherever you want on fruit but all animal base roots nothing like nothing processed nothing with a with a with a package that says like a list of ingredients everything. he's just playing. And I was kind of like tripping, I was like, what is this? Because I'm from Ecuador. We used to eat soups, rice, many cars. Ecuador.

Exactly. You know, Coca-Cola is not, but you don't want to do it every day, but it's not, you grow up thinking, all this is normal. Yeah. And then one day she just went, boom. And I started feeling better because you get rid of inflammation. You get rid of, like, all these bullshit and chemicals that the food brings. Yeah, gut health, all that.

All that. All that. And I was just like, fucking. feel like I'm a I'm hyper as f*** I got a crazy energy but when I said eating better I just become more like I feel my brain was working faster my reaction times everything and non-inflammatory because you feel when you inflame you feel as long as you feel weird I was like perfect and since then to now I just keep researching keep asking questions keep like you know follow these doctors that go to your role and then they talk about like what foods are good

or how to mix them or just go to the internet and see why and how yeah so did did your so would you say your wife got you on to that oh yeah a thousand percent you also found so interesting so i saw the stuff like sean strickland recently won uh the title against izzie and he was talking about how like his wife came and like change his life like it's just always find interesting how like a woman can come in and like completely shift your norms woman is very important but like especially when you got a good one in your life like when you have somebody that is like a soldier like he's going to fight your bottles

he's going to help you to get to the bottle it's going to be regardless no matter what and sometimes you get lucky with a good one or sometimes you get not so lucky with a piece of shit I go by the subvers it goes for men too men can be a piece like you know yeah of course they need to need to find the right one too but

I mean we got three kids I met him in fourth grade what bro whoa that's like a that's like a that's like a fucking fairy tale yeah it's crazy dude in both of you in ecuador yeah when i moved from the from for this small town i used to live

to the big city i went so my dad brought us to the big city once my sister was right before she graduated high school so she could go to better college find a good job because you don't want to stay forever in these tiny towns because there's not too much to yeah there's not too many opportunities there's education is a lower level so my father was like you know good father good plan once my oldest one is about to go to college we all move to the city and they can since I was the youngest one I probably get

the most out of it because I moved to a big city in fourth grade so I learned English you know better quality of teachers better everything then my brother was older I'm the youngest one he had like two years left on high school and then he went to college but in the city and then I got to met my wife in this school like in the city and did you like did you guys maintain a connection for a long

time or it is like on and off like we we're staying the same school until two years before high school was over because I got kicked out but before that well you get kicked out fighting lighting things on fire smoking in the parking lot did you so that's just funny I had Nate on the podcast Nate Diaz and he was talking about just like grew up and fighting like how did you get introduced and I don't know we'll talk more about the family dynamics as well but how did you get introduced to fighting bro I I'm a professional street fighter I was fighting since Ike professional street fighter I have my last memories until I can remember I was fighting kids on the street just for but not bigger guys like not like guys like me no no bodybuilders

but like when I was a kid I was fighting other kids let's see a homeless kid we play soccer on the street something goes around for you boom and that was like normal if I have a problem with anybody doesn't we solve it all you don't like me let's fight I was playing socket I kicked somebody

I did something like you know I earned a yellow car the guy said fuck you my first reaction is punching me face

I just love to fight and then when I was getting older I was on clubs I would just you know somebody would bomb me and if they don't give me

the right energy or say sorry I would just like boom it's because nowadays it's like people are so quick to pull weapons

and shit it's different now yeah but I have the same energy I don't fuck with nobody but you give me a tiny reason I'm gonna punch in the face

you know what I'm saying but if you don't with nobody and you don't bring that energy and you want to prove yourself everybody would just be cool to you you know there's people that are looking for something

oh yeah doesn't you just punch him in the face straight right in the mouth who wins the street fight me or you I kill you I swear to gonna kill you how much you weigh 155 right now

how would you kill me bro like what like what what i'm saying like what what yeah check this out yeah go ahead if you don't grab me and throw me so if i don't get my hands on you no but i will grapple you too but if you the only way i feel you will beat me if if you grab me yeah and you hit my head with the wall and then if you go if i get chaos because if you don't knock me out i'm gonna keep coming and cardio wise yeah you won't you don't you don't know i'm an animal dude i believe you up i mean i based I run 13 miles every Sunday. I'm a real runner.

I'm trying my eyes off. I'm healthy. You're not like a street fight of the health. Even if you start punching me and hurting me, my health won't leave me too quick. You will have to like really knock me out early. You have to be cold. If not, dude, you're, I'm going to take your eyes out of your face.

It's a street fight, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're not talking about like referee. No, no, no, no. Oh, I'm fucking. It's to the death. I'm opening your guts and fucking playing with them. I have that.

that on me I swear to God I love it I like you big I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie though you when you started talking about the mushrooms and like your training and your diet I was like this guy it's probably in the other side dude I know all those warriors I saw them I smoked the mt too so oh you have yeah oh my god you never yes he's the best thing ever have you have you ever done uh yah hey or like ayahuasca no and I'm dying to do it I'm just waiting for the right moment yeah you want to do it you want to do in a way that's, you know, kind of, it's just a little, maybe more ceremonial.

A thousand, but when I smoked DMT, it wasn't like for fun. We sit down, we set up intention, what was the reason you're doing it, what would you like to fix, and you just speak your thoughts, and it's all personal friends, like just people that love you

and they're like, they're not there to do drugs. It's not a line of cocaine. I never took cocaine in my life. Probably never will. Yeah. Because just go by, you see, who does cocaine they're

who smoke the motions they're happening it's going that side that was my my welcome to this world

when I was like my friends my circle of friends once I do they were like just doing cocaine and just looking forward to cocaine

and they were like looking for chicks or looking for having fun they just want to do cocaine then they're stoners

you know they're having fun they're eating some motions they're like who they're seeing some colors I'm like

I don't want to be a yeah I don't want to suck I want to go have fun Yeah, they're doing anything for that shit They're like crazy Yeah I've been there

I saw friends coming in and out Rehab daily basis And I was like Just what's the point If you know I already know That thing is bad

Why I'm gonna do it And it's a It's like a temporary Like Performance enhancer That doesn't actually enhance your performance It just makes you feel Like you're the shit

Yeah And it's actually worse for your body And for you and everything You do obviously Like it's very clear how defined you are on like what you want to do and put in your body because it's all about function bro a thousand percent everything if you go to my house and you open my my my kitchen my whatever the food is the the the fridge it's like raw milk meat pounds of meat

damn you eat good oh yeah do you see do you do you have like a regimen as far as like your diet goes or your supplements like i'm i'm not a i'm not a i'm not a i'm not too much in I don't have any supplements at all it's all no pills no pills holy shit just the fact that a pill is on a pill I don't want it on myself damn you're really that deep

yeah I had made did I admit did I admit X raw butter like only like if I'm gonna drink a juice it's not in a bottle gotta be like press in that moment

I have my own juice at home I use my own juice Like, I do go in the store and get a green juice, but I go and go to the bar. I'm like, I want this mix of veggies with apple. So you, so you've been eating like this for how long you said? Like a little over 10 years, dude. And I, that people don't, I'm like, sometimes people see at me and they're like, dude, you're doing a sacrifice.

I'm like, no, you don't. You mean you're giving up like these good things? Yeah, like, I'm giving up these tweaks, sneakers, candy, sugar. Bullshit. I'm like, you just grab a handful. and you feel like a piece of shit you feel depressed that food will bring you

it will drag you down because the moment you're blower and your stomach was like oh it's almost a similar feeling when you get partnered on this and you're like oh what the fuck oh you know what's interesting now people don't understand

I think literally most people don't realize how much better they can feel because they just that's what they know and they just know that to be normal and they don't know that there's so much actually more it's like doing drugs dude it's like it's like like

pussies that cheat to win tournaments and the enhancers drugs. That's how I feel when I eat the way like this. What was that word? What's a cheat? No, when people like pussies, when people Oh, when pussy's cheat. They do drugs to be faster and shit.

I'm talking to competition. If you want to be a fucking big guy, be a big guy, cool, but fighting is specific. Yeah. It's too fucked up and you put. You don't think all those guys are taking that shit? I think there's a lot of people taking it. Because it's so easy to beat you, Sarah.

Yeah. You need like... Timing. No, you need like 20 grand. call a good doctor boom oh you could just you could just pay them yeah if you if no no no a good doctor will give you good products he will tell you how to clean yourself oh okay you said it only comes 6 a.m till 6 p.m. I would love if you saw that knock at your daughter at 4 a.m. 10 p.m. 3 p.m. Completely random randomly because they have this window so I can go to the fucking mountains in

Ecuador and told them I'm hunting and I'm doing EPO and shit by the time I come back there's nothing with me yeah but damn I just feel like that's such a it's that's I'd rather die before I cheat bro or I I can't do it you can offer me everything the answer the question the solution and I'm going to be like fuck you I'm not going to do I don't even want to be your friend if you're doing that in that sport in a sport yeah Outside. I feel like it's probably so much more prevalent. Like I feel like a lot of people are doing it.

I think a huge percentage is doing it. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't necessarily make you, I guess it can make you more aggressive. It can make you have higher, like, oxygen capacity. But I don't know if it's going to make you a better fighter. Yeah, but there's drugs out there that will give you, now the technology is getting better.

So they're giving you shit that is for your reaction time. Oh, shit. For your eyes. I mean, I have good eyes, dude. I'm like a fucking. cat. Sometimes on TV he's getting punched. Those things are not getting even near my

face. I can go fucking ninja style. I just fucking block it all. And I know how important the eyes are. There's drugs that make you have better reaction time? I wonder what the fuck that is. There's, bro, those fucking Russians make everything. Yeah. So crazy.

How many medals they took for them, like almost every single one? They're bad for the Olympics. They make everything. Yeah. It's such a crazy sport i feel like it's in all sports though too i feel like it's prevalent in all sports because like at the top level the highest level right like yeah you think if especially if you're in a sport where you know it's probably being used or likely could be used then a lot of guys tend to use it because like they feel like they almost need to i grew up different like to me's like

is it you're good or you're bad like have you you seen connor after he got injured and like where he's at now like he looks like he's on gear to me there's it's impossible dude there's no way He's just eating fucking... Because he got fucking huge and his face got big. And his hair went away. I mean, yeah, no. It's like, you don't get that big by eating steak and eggs. No, no.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just... And God bless him, dude. He can get away with it. I'm sure the UFC goes like, you know what, dude? You make us the most money. I get the business part. That's why you can get mad.

It is what it is. Yeah. But you can control the drug problem in the UFC. It's just, I mean, bro, I'm disciplined. through the year and I don't fucking look like like you yeah you just you always stay consistent what do you what do you struggle with the most in terms of what in terms of like physicality like are you like is it a gas is it gassing out I mean you said you said no or is it like strength is it leg strength like where do you think you need to improve on the most like well

I'm the type of guy that is always room for improvement I'm trying to get my numbers bearing lifting I try to shave the seconds in my miles I really have fun training I love this shit so much that I don't go to the lifting training I'm like fuck I gotta go lift right now I'm weak I think like this like when I go to the wrestling room

I'm like I'm gonna fucking try to be these fucking wrestlers I'm gonna try to make this happen if I go to the Jiu-Gita room I'm like I'm gonna try to be world class if I want to spark a pro boxer I'm like I'm gonna pimp this motherfucker I want to try to sleep and punch him and be that so I don't have that type of a struggle like I'm I do it all pretty good and lifting wise I got big numbers like I must I believe a lot of the squad I believe a squad boost your testosterone

hell yeah I feel the legs the stronger the legs are the better I know guys that can bench press a million pounds but they can squad shit I don't respect that's not that's a half man right there it's back you're the chest dude push-ups pull-ups you get a good punch I punch hard as fuck and I don't fucking do bench press well it's hip strength I I got like three plates and a 255 on us how much you weigh 155 oh shit what is that what is that three three places in 20 365 what 365 yeah I got videos like I'm like I'm like I'm going 365 to death though no like half goal okay I show you a video I'll see I'll check later we'll check but it's I'm not going fully deep like cross it guys like

I used to train in a cross it back of home and the cross would hate me because I'm not trying to compete with them but I'm like yes I can do three plates I can go for five because I can build I build up to that I go like you know week one I start with two plates and a half

and I say consistent for a full week then with two I go three plates just three plates and I try to do one I stop Does your training change when you get close to a fight Like do you stop the leg stuff Because you need to refresh? I go really heavy Far like right now I go heavy but I run a lot too so I don't get I don't get too tight and I don't get too

like a sloppy so like even if I'm lifting really heavy like deadlift a squat I'm like the push us with with with weights like with the chains and everything heavy kettle workout like I rock two catables a squad a scissors squats all that but I feel I'm getting really strong but they might also run a lot I don't stop running ever. So I don't get that part out of the way. Do you ever feel like, obviously, your focus is on the cardiovascular stuff because obviously run so, but do you ever feel like your cardio, though,

is directly affecting your strength? Like, do you feel your strength kind of? I really, I really try to, like, push each other like this. To the fight. Yeah, so I'm not like, I'm not like too strong, but I'm like, if you're that strong and you only lift them, you're not flexible, then you're a little, like, sloppy, slow.

Endurance. And if you only, only run, then you become kind of like a rubber band. Fucking, yeah, okay. So I try to be very strong and run a lot. But by the time the fight gets closer, I start exploding a lot. I forget about the long distance running.

I go, like, three, four miles, but I'm going, like, sprinting. And I'm trying to beat my times. And I do sprints, I do 100 yards. I jump a lot everything is explosive little weights but fucking jumping

jumping jumping throwing shit and I can feel the transition like six weeks before the fire I start like just I'm as nappy as fuck

I'm quick I'm like reacting good but the stretch and power still is there so you I mean when did you really start to feel like you mastered it like how long into your career

were you like oh I get this I before I used to live a lot but I wouldn't run too much. I would sprint, I would do small runs, but once I started running like 13, 14, 15 miles late.

Oh, that's fucking insane. It's great, but the car did you get the... Like straight? Straight. Like, I would go like seven miles left, and then I was going to come back. Like, I live in Newport. I run my last...

I always find new routes. I'm not one route. I run it twice, and I'm like over it. I like to see news That's where when I go to a run I don't go thinking I'm going to go to this place I just go left, right

down this place come up, come down like I'm not like I don't have a row I just go but I go I've been going all the way to HB

and I pass the pier and I've been trying to get to Seal Beach but it's a little too far from Newport from Newport Holy shit like if I show you my maps

my runs dude they're huge crazy circles so okay a little bit more about training stuff you were talking earlier about like going to do boxing or going to do wrestling or going to do jiu jitzu what part of like your game do you think you try to improve the most on it currently because are you trying to fight sugar sean is that what they're talking about i think that's happened because he's been like chirping you yeah he won he i mean of course he won he got his ass kick last time but from what he understand the ufs you haven't told me anything but knowing that the jipsy

is a money machine yeah and there is more and they're not here to please your feelings or hurt your feelings right they do where it's best for business fair and this is good for business yeah i'm number one contender i'm not i i fell short against sanhagen i beat munoz i'm still in that top five conversation i get it this order two might deserve it but guess what they're right and sterling yeah uh not sterling not sterling if you if you get a stop like that you got you got to you got to fight somebody so what was your take on that you saw that fight i was interviewed him and he was like i was good he shouldn't have stopped it no it was fuck he's he he's he talks shut the fuck up you get knocked you get knocked you get knocked

you were running like a fucking idiot in there like you don't go like that like open arms you're gonna get cracked he felt like a guy in a bar but it's because of pressure i get it sean brings that those lights it's flashy brings a lot of media huge audience yeah if that a lot of you you're fuck i was i fought that night too so the press conference i was there all you mean was fighting with the fans he was like i'm gonna prove you guys he was saying that oh yeah he's a fucking cook oh i'm like dude when i'm fighting i don't give a fuck the media i don't give a fuck who's tagging me i don't give a fuck who's watching i already know all that i'm focused on my opponent i'm like fuck the world fuck the noise i'm not paying attention to that

Fuck this guy. I want to kill this guy. That's all I have in my mind. The fact that he was fighting with the crowd and told him, like, you guys will see, they were booing him. Being boo is okay. Yeah. Is it you boo or your love? Both make you the same money.

Yeah. Doesn't matter. It was so, and I was like, dude, Sean is a talker. It wasn't even talking. It was audio against the fans. And by the time you get to the locker room and the wrap in your hands, You remember all that ways of energy that you didn't say for that moment. Damn.

That's fucking real. It's facts. I mean, I speak facts all the time. But it's like, example, let's see you go online and you don't know me and you're looking through the car. You're like, I really, let's say you're just a fan of my opponent. And you're like fully rooting for him. Yeah. Most fathers get mad at that.

You're like, fuck that guy. I mean, you don't even know the person, why you have to root for it. root for who you like yeah period but fighters get emotional you can bring that thing to the you think he brought that into that fight oh a thousand percent he he lost a fight months before the fight fuck i can tell you by the way he was talking he was like bragging about his weight like i'm fat i'm this i'm bigger i'm gonna get a hold of you i'm like dude doesn't matter how big you are you still got to cut the way and make the way we make the way at the same time yeah we have the same time until we fight doesn't matter who cuts more

he's just ready that's all that matter and he was emotional in that fight he was he was you don't say you're going to leave the division before a fight you don't say you're retiring before that fight because you already put out there in the universe I see you're gonna quit that is okay to lose that's not okay because he was talking about fighting volk I mean yeah you focus on the task you had a front of you don't wipe your ass before you shed yeah you know and damn and he did that What about Marab? Fuck that little shit.

Yo, you guys are, you guys are so funny to me, man. He's a fucking cool dude, too. He, funny, I was in the fights this weekend in Vegas, and, bro, again, I don't shop to a place looking for something. I was front row. He was literally a chair behind me, and I was just watching the fights. I don't even acknowledge you a guy. I'm like, dude, we're in the same division, cool.

I'm not the guy that's shake your hand and give you a hug, but. I just work near you don't talk to me yeah he'd bump on my on my shoulder I'm like what's up it's like you talking chat and I'm like what see you Twitter cheat about me I'm like what the fuck did you no I don't even know the guy did okay there was a meme going on you saw when when all you put the phone team yes yeah I saw that yeah I'm next thing and then I'm next we all reply right yes He said how long number six, where you're turned. But Ecuadorians use some Ecuadorian slang and put me downstairs saying like, Chupalo. Chupelo means going so big.

If you translate it to English, but in Ecuador, you go like, yeah, I don't like your hat. Fuck off. That means Chupelo. Like, ah, get it up. Hey, whatever. Yeah. And I retweet the meme, but it was a joke. It was an internal joke with Ecuadorians.

It was nothing about, but he don't know. I get it. He barely speak English. Yeah. And it's a little bit of a moron, too. So I'm, I turn red quick. I go like, dude, fuck off. I don't know you.

I don't give a fuck about you. You're not in my fucking thoughts. Beat it. Watch the fight. I'm high right now. Fuck off. He went. He went on his, and I was in a, you know, when you're so clean in your answers and so

respectful, but also mean, that the guy had nothing to say back. He was just like, yeah, I know your shoulder for no reason. I get what you say he kind of like didn't know what to do he felt awkward oh shit but I do want to fight you

I said let's go right now motherfucker I just turn I stand up let's go and I was like I was begging the Lord please have him through

something so I can just fucking break his fucking face right now what would happen if that actually happened in the UFC it would be perfect because there was no security

right there I was but that's a team I mean it I'm not the typical I believe you I don't put a mask on I don't have this persona

I'm who I am and I'm cool with that and people love me for that I'm who I am if you tell me you want to fight me I'm gonna put my hands up I don't

I'm not gonna what happened with Leon Edwards and Masbiel you don't go to another man's face expecting nothing's gonna happen something's gonna happen if you're a real man you told me you want to fight me

I say let's go right now, I just went red, dude. And then he went like, oh, no, I talk about in the cage. Fuck you and fuck the cage, dude.

So, so what, but, so you would do it obviously. I mean, he would obviously have to respond in that moment, but what would the UFC do?

Would they be mad if that happened? Or would that just be like, that's, that's free publicity. I think, yeah, bro, I love the UFC. I love it too.

Fuck. And that's the thing. People hate on Dana. People hate on the UFC. You will only hate them if you are, in the bad side of this talking, if you're a loser, if you, if you haven't a breakthrough. Because in MMA, there's many good fighters, but there's this point, this breakthrough moment,

that you just become a star. Like, people just fuck with you. People are, like, that guy. Like, Masfield and Cobby, and I love Masper, that's my boy. When they were friends, but think about it, 10 fights ago, they were, like, under the rudder, and Masby is a real motherfucker. Yeah. One day they just decided to start going crazy on Twitter.

I'm an MMA in there. I watch every single fight on and I know these guys. That's why, like, for me, it was like, I realized this moment. They went overnight and you started going crazy on Twitter. A week before that, they were normal people. They were just one of the best fighters in the world. But overnight, they just went on Twitter and you start going crazy. And they become a fucking superstar.

Because of the platform that they're then able to leverage. Exactly. Yeah. Like, I mean, Masbyville, when. When he went in Kio Ascran, that's a crazy breakthrough moment because he went crazy. He went vital. And that happened on people's career. Some people just don't have that.

That ability. That ability of breakthrough and have this massive audience wanting you to win or want you to lose, but you need it either way. Yeah. Some guys are just there. So what do you say to the, because you know how Jake Paul will talk about like fighter pay and all this stuff, fighter pay stuff in general in relationship to the UFC? Because if we speak to the point Like what you're saying I don't think people recognize

How big the UFC actually is And how much of a massive like draw Obviously the fighters It wouldn't exist without the fighters And there's no mistake in that But that is like you said There's that massive portal To like the whole world

For people to like to see This is I get Jake's point I get Dana's point too Because if you go to a top rank event And let's see it's Canelo The main event I don't even know who is signed to

but let's see you like that. Canelo is going to make a lot of millions, right? Yeah, the most. He's the first guy in that car making a hundred grand? No, fuck no. He's the same shit. So that's what when Jay went like, I'm going to pay this, is all his undercar making hundreds of thousands of dollars, or just him?

Yeah. Well, I'll give you my perspective on it. I mean, when I look at it, it's to me, knowing where Jake comes from, which is like marketing, because it's just the internet, right? Yeah, YouTube, YouTube, like, social. media clout chase whatever it is right he recognizes that dana and the ufc is the biggest fight promotion thing pretty much in our world ever yeah and dana is a when dana live the ufc might fall apart that would be i hope he doesn't leave that would be sad not in my dena not not in my

times at least which i'm that selfishly i'm okay with that but when he's gone it's not gonna be the same no i don't he's that motherfucker is a genius there's a reason he's who's who he is. There's a reason he's a fucking rich guy. He's not a rich way by default. He's not a rich one because the Fraterer, the Fraterer has his friends. He's rich because he's a bad motherfucker. He's a smart motherfucker. I respect that. I respect that. You can hate somebody when he's that successful. You figured it out how to get to there. Yeah. But like a lot of people get mad about him because he goes and gamble and he lost 600,000. This is fucking money. Yeah. But you can get there. But yeah, no, I know. I know.

Just keep working. Well, it says, people like to, but the reason, like I said, I'll get back to the Jake Paul thing in relationship to it. It's like I, Jake's also smart and Jake's using, in my opinion, like something massive against itself, meaning like, because Jake is from, I can look at from the outside as a person who's understanding things and like, Jake is creating his own promotion company. And it makes sense for him to attack the biggest, one of the biggest promotion companies to be like, I'm going to do it better to go like this with himself. And that's what's happening. It's there. They're competitors. They're going to get each other.

we'll see what happened. But I also don't hate the Paul brothers. They're so fucking successful. Yeah. And so good at what they do that you, I'll say this before and I would say it again. If you hate people like this, you will never make it.

Yeah, I mean, no matter what, no matter what you think about what they've done or haven't done or did the right way or the wrong way. They do it better than you. Yeah, and they fucking did it. There's a reason you're down there looking up and saying, fuck you, you're a pussy. You don't fight.

real fighters i don't give a fuck about none of that i just see about how successful and how relevant can you be for the longest time those guys been doing it for a while yeah good for them yeah i don't know them but good for fucking them yeah so what do you what do you think about those we'll talk about them just a little bit because they have some fights coming up and then i want to talk more about you and sean but uh just so we can get this out the way who do you think is going to win i'm assuming you've seen this stuff dylan danis and logan paul i mean Fighting wise, Logan, it's a better fighter. Boxing.

Boxing. I mean, I know Floyd's like a thousand pounds lighter than him, but it's still the greatest of all time. Yeah. He can list. And it's a boxing ring. I get it. It's 200 pounds versus what, 150.

Yeah. But like, it's a real, that's a real task for a fucking Disney kid that is all of a sudden want to be a fucking boxer. Yeah. I went to the distance. That's good. but they actually train they're athletes

they're really good athletes they have a lot of good abilities and I'm sure they have a work at they seem that they have work ethic they're not fucking spoiled little pussies they come from fucking tough ground so Dylan

I don't see him he fought M.A. He didn't throw a punch in those fights he's a great grappler from what I heard a good grappler never a world champion so he's not a Gilbert Burn level. It's not a Demi and Maya level. It's on a Gordon level. Love Gordon. He's a great guy. I've been in Texas training with him. Really cool guy. But he's a good

grappler. Never been never been the best in the world. And his best attribute really is just staying relevant by say crazy shit on the internet. In my opinion, it's going to end run. You don't do that. People die for acting like that. Like facts. You don't go that. You don't go that. far because you're talking about the stuff about this girl all of that yeah i mean you can do that that's just that's just too much if you do that to me i will never sue you but do it if i see you it's gonna be bad i'm willing to go to to live in jail because you don't talking like that should be illegal too i mean you're making illegal some worlds and you're making all this bullshit with politics that should be illegal.

Disrespecting someone's wife. Like going that deep. We're in that deep in any sense. You don't make fun of people with disabilities. You don't talk about people's families. They're just codes in there that men should have. And that's just fucking, let's fuck that up, dude. Yeah.

So you think Dylan's going to take the L? I don't even know if that's going to happen. Oh, you don't even think he's going to show up. I think he has to show up. Is that a fight going to happen? Is that a real fight? I hope so. but like

you can you can act like that at some point he's really a good troll and I get it I troll people so I'm a fucking ass

so I go in there and say dumb shit or I act dumb but the fact that sometimes the GSP imposed a random fight and he would put a comment

like oh I killed those guys you didn't even know those guys he'd been doing that before all this stuff that was going on for a while yeah it's like but what have you done in the sport nothing

in your year two nothing never been a world champion in MMA, I mean, you're fighting imbalater. That's already bad. And in the prelims. I mean, it's like, ah, whatever. And now you're seeing all this publicity getting your way, and I get it.

Numbers are numbers, good or bads. Yeah. But my guess, I don't know nothing about the guy. My guess is a spoiled kid that comes from parents with money. Because if you haven't done nothing in this life, I doubt Connor McGregor putting him a paycheck. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I actually don't know. I was going to get him on the pod because I want to talk to him about all this stuff,

but I don't know where he comes from at all. I would guess he comes from money because he acts like, like that. He acts like a spoiled cost. Damn. Has he ever said he beat you up? He put comments on me before, like, I would kill him. I'm saying, cool, dude.

I don't even know you. That doesn't even make me mad because I'm going to do what you're doing. I'm like, I don't know you. Yeah. I mean, I'm really, I'm not, I'm not the guy that engaged online. Yeah. I don't read comments because I'm not looking for approval. I feel if you're reading comments, you're looking for the good ones.

But in order to find the good ones, you're going to read some. Carlos, one, two, three, with no followers, no profile pictures saying your mother would suck my big. And then it's like, that guy could be a guy laughing, not even meaning it, and you're going crazy. Yeah. And why I know this? Because when I was 17, I would like, soccer is big in Ecuador. And let's see the team I like will lose I will go, but I will do it from my account

Like a real man Fuck you lose it, I hope you die How come you didn't score the goal And I'm not meaning that I'm laughing when I'm writing that Right But not everybody out there is mentally tough Or smart enough to be like It's a fucking comment dude

Especially not nowadays man People are sensitive They're fucking pussy It's fucking crazy We need Trump back in the seat Yeah it's wild So what about I don't know if you know much about KSI or Tommy Fury.

They're boxing on the same card. Have you seen that? I know minimal. I know Tommy Fury, of course, because he's brother, not because of him. Right. And I'm guessing he's a decent boxer and he knows how to box. And KSI seems like he was a, what he did before? He was a nerd.

Oh, really? Yeah, he was like a video game player. He's blessed by the color. He's probably super powerful and fast. I mean, he's, they're better than us. black people is the best people they're so funny they're so explosive talented

I mean that's funny look at John Jones he's a perfect fighter John Jones is fucking that's my number one of all time forever

and I don't give a fuck you saw Dana said if there was one person in the world he would have to fight for his life it would be John Jones you seem to say that I think it's the best person

it is in any situation like who's that guy John Jones and personally I know him is a great fucking guy like he's

he's a good guy because i was training there when i had nothing even before the ufc like i was sleeping on the dorms with nothing and he will just bring you all his Nike line shoes damn and back then he doing that dude i would never forget he's a good guy that's amazing he's a cool like when you first started you were saying when you first got into ufc like right before the ufc the the ufc brought me to jackson so i can train and they will see how good i was because i'm coming from equator right i'm not i don't have this back of anything I have like three fights on YouTube fucking fighting for my life how they find you because I did the right thing on instead of fighting around Latin America I went to Peru I went to

Panama I went to Mexico and I started to getting to know I was who's this kid fighting all this country and I was winning I was 6 and no then when the JFC comment was 6 and 1 but I was just fighting around so I was getting people for other countries will tweet or put up put on Facebook something about me because I would fight and win and they were like and even my name is just popping in in South America and then one day I just got an email hey Marlon this is blah blah blah we're an agency that works for the UFC I almost crushed was that was that your intention was to go to the UFC I told myself if the UFC don't call me I will never fight for anybody else holy shit I swear on my kids that was my goal when I was 17 I would wake up

every morning and said the same prayer and I would have asked for health, money, I was asking just for fucking being the UFC. Holy shit. Every time I would go for a training or running or lifting and I were feeling any tired or any not motivated

I would be just like, I would just say UFC, UFC. And I would fucking get a hard on and go fucking get it done. Bro. So what got you into thinking like knowing you had to think like that at that age? Like that intention? I had a daughter

that changed my life that made me push on another level and I don't come from rich family so it was really get a normal job or help my dad

or really make it to the JFC and I really didn't want the other two I would love to work with my dad because we're cool and he's a farmer and I love that life I was but I never had a plan B I wasn't thinking okay if I fell on this

fighting thing I'm going to work for that I was like fuck everything I want to make it no matter what. Like, if you, if I would tell you when I was six-year-old and I was sitting on the swing on my house, I remember me thinking myself, I'm going to be a cool motherfucker when I grew up. Dude, this is such an interesting thing. Like, and this is, this is real. I'm not making this up.

I would be on the swing, fucking playing like a little kid. And in my head, I would just be like, I'm going to be a bad motherfucker. I'm going to be a gangster. I don't know how. I don't know when. And I just grew up thinking I'm going to be cool. Like I'm going to do something. I'm going to do exactly.

So I was never worried about because growing up, I didn't have no idea. I didn't want to be a doctor, a cop, fucking dentis, a drug dealer. I don't want nothing. I was like, I don't know. You know, you get to an age of everybody, grandma, auntie, friends, family. So what are you doing? Where you're going to college? What you like?

And I was like. Nothing. They're like, what you mean? Nothing. So I'm like, don't worry. I figured it out. And everybody thought I wasn't going to be a... Most people thought I couldn't be a bomb or nothing

just because I never grew up saying like, oh, I'm going to be this, I'm going to be that. Yeah. I just knew. Something. I'm going to be something. Dude, it's such an interesting. I literally did a podcast earlier today

and I've had these conversations with so many people who are successful and they always... And I felt the same way. I remember being young and feeling like there's something I'm going to do with my life that's just not normal and it was i just felt it obviously i'm not a fighter but but you are some you know what i'm saying like you are successful you do things that normal people don't do normal people go to college and then they get a small job they go to

do then if they're if they have enough mocks in them and they know how to go through life they start escalating but that's the small percentage yeah the regular is just like sit down yes sir drink coffee, go home and sad half a wife that don't really like I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to go to your cough, see you later but the small percentage have a good life, being through the ringer knows there's ups and down

but keep flowing away, keep going forward Why do you think most people tend to like submit to that sort of lifestyle, the norm? Comfort, dude, and going back to the diet, people that eat like shit and feel like shit, that's their normal. Feeling like shit like a sluggish, a slow fucking, fucking three liter of Coca-Cola, 6 a.m. And a big mac. Yeah.

I mean, if you do that, daily basics, actually it's good. But that's your good. Yeah. I mean, like, I get it. Like, you literally your brain, it's almost like you feel so shit and you're so used to that shit feeling. You don't know that. You couldn't even know that you could do more, be better or be greater.

Sometimes people ask me like, how does it feel like being married forever? I'm like, that's all I know. I love it. I don't need to know more. But people like, eat like shit, that's all they know. So when they change, you go like, oh my God. But that's why it's so hard to let that go. Going back to why people get used to being that is because they get used to that.

They're like, this is my normal. I got to set my life. I don't came from money. My parents didn't really help me. It doesn't matter. You find your way. In life, we all have a different road. No one has the same path.

Some people take the little faster to get there, but you can worry about them. Some people never make them. Don't worry about them. You just keep going on your path because there will be bad things. It's going to be obstacles. It's going to be failing, all that. And guess what, it's going to keep happening even if you're successful.

Yeah. You just got to keep going. I mean, like, if you think about it, life is short. but can be long if he's miserable. Yeah. Well, it's crazy. A good friend once said it's a longest thing we'll ever know, which is a fact. But I think the thing are people, they miss out is they just, the self-doubt, obviously.

But so back to the idea of, like, knowing that there was something more for you before there ever was, anything actually tangible. Like, for someone who was, like, struggling to feel that or, like, how could someone find that? Like, how did you, because, like, I actually can't even say, if I sat here and I tried to explain it to you, the answer my own question I just gave you, I'm like, it will be hard to explain, but I would think just growing up good. And when I say growing up, good doesn't mean growing up with a lot of money, with everything, with your, everything is gifted, every day you get the best thing. I just think is when you have a good environment, like good family, good food, good food. I'm laughing. I grew up laughing my whole entire life. That's why I can take jokes or talk,

because I wasn't once that I remember that I wasn't laughing my ass off with my sister or brother, with my parents, with my family, with my cousins, playing on the street in school, and people don't practice too much smiling. They're too tight in their own shit that you need to let loose, you need to fucking have fun, you need to laugh.

And if you don't grow up doing that, you're going to fucking become a shell of yourself. And that's maybe, but it's hard to say why or how I was on that swing telling myself, I'm going to be a bad motherfucker when I grew up. It's so crazy, man. It's just crazy. Oh, that's a thing. I feel some people have it and some people don't. That's a thing.

Yeah, I was going to ask you. I, like, sometimes my coach told me this, like, he's been asked before, like, are people, are champions made they're born and he goes a little bit of both but he's inclined more for you gotta born

with something different and you gotta be a little crazy you gotta be a little fucked up in the head to think and be selfish and have a big ego and say

I'm gonna fucking step in your neck and take your bell and Monday night we'll see after the fight's over you know and you go in there and you say I don't give

of fuck I have what it takes and I'm going to get it done that's why visualization and meditation and all these soul fitting stuff they're good things that add plus all the hard work of course

and if you're lucky enough having the right people around because sometimes people careers are over just by who's around and in anything if you have negative people or people with self low confidence and low anything

even if they love you they will drag you down with them because they don't know how to uplift people they only know how to stay down they only know how to like complain about this complain about that and if you give me an inch of that I kick you out of my life with the fucking kick

in the chest and I'm like I love you but don't ever talk to. Did anyone ever get to like deal with that specifically in your life? Yeah like I get to met people and we get kind of close and you're cool but then I'm like you can be love forever dude like I'm gonna as a friend as a person

I'm gonna try to believe you as much as I can but I can drag you day long. Can't do it for you yeah so if I feel you're a person that you don't want you don't want better you don't want bigger you don't want to keep going I'm like I have no emotion

I'm like you're dead to me because it's not about what you give me I don't need anything material for anybody you just want good energy energy is the most important thing and you gotta if you don't know how to pick on energy you're fuck yeah it's so interesting just from the moment you you jumped out the car

coming coming through like my front I noticed this about you and the first thing you started talking just got me so excited about like the mushrooms and the marijuana not that like those are things you need to have this sort of good energy but I do find this really interesting about you like how a tune you are with like yourself

like so what other practices have you done to make you more like this like you talked about meditation You talked about DMT. Like, what else have you done? I feel like me growing up, of course, I wasn't doing all this too early in life. But it's just, you know, some people is too strong or they're super gifted with natural. Being there's talent or speed. I had none of that.

I was just a funny kid. I was just the smallest one. But I was the one that could go in any group. I was able to deal with different personalities or just, I wasn't just too picky. And growing up, I'm being soft as pogged and being, don't being too shy, that helped me just to keep asking and, like, knowing more like, okay, okay,

this guy is successful in school doing this type of sport. I would get close to that. I'm like, yo, what's up with you? Do you eat different? Who you are? Like, I'm always interested in those. learning and and that I think helps in everything going forward and I'm very in tune like I feel if I'm going to get sick I feel when things are not right like I've been I've been

rough I'm from Ecuador I've been robbed a handful of times in the street like I was walking and somebody just walk walk walk and boom pulled again and be like give me your phone okay I will fucking you know when a spider man goes like zoom you know it's going to happen before it happens Oh, I'm like, oh, he's going to, good night, don't show him. Like, it's weird. Like, I used to have that way back to fighting good eyes. Like, instincts are very important. And my coach always talks about it.

He's always like, you can be a good fighter, you can have cardio. If you don't have instincts, you're fuck. Yeah. You need those for life for it. So what are the things you use to practice that kind of stuff? Like, what harnesses that skill? I feel. Consistency.

Okay. Doing it over and over and over. Like practice fighting, training, fighting, but also, you know, having the confidence to take time off. Having the confidence to, like, I'm good, I'm good. Because you can burn yourself out too, going too crazy, too hard. Yeah. But, like, to me, not just meditating, closing my eyes for 20 minutes and boom,

all that's good, but to me, really what is my meditation is either sit on my swing and just stare at my at my at my at the hedges or the trees on my home and just be like that to me just I go in a blank just looking up to the sky looking at sunset sunrise that's all that's meditation all that's an a and i grew up doing that I grew up in a farm so you go 4 a.m. take the cows out of the thing you're the best sunset of your life. Before people even know that a sunset and a selfie exist, I was in a fucking

heart just going, wow, those colors are crazy. And I grew up in a farm. The things that were fun for me were just the little things. But those little things go way far in life than having a cool car,

having cool clothes. All that is just bullshit. If you get it for free, cool, you get invited to the party cool. none of that made who you are have you noticed that like all those things like you mentioned some of the most simple things sunrise and sunset like experiencing that

and like that stuff is like more talked about now as like for a purpose meaning like go go get the sunrise go get the sunset because it'll keep your your rhythm in sync so you could sleep good and be more efficient it's interesting how like you say you just grew up this way

and it was just normal for you and for people now it's so unnormal that people have to be taught to go, like, experience that for their well-being? Walk barefoot, I mean, you know, you're always on a constantly, like, magnetic world. You're in your phone all day. Yeah.

You're fucking chasing the money. You're chasing the big teeth. And it's like you're just consistent in this plastic world. Yeah. Like, it's just like, which watch can I have so it can be accepted on this club? Or which car I need,

which car is trendy, which users are trending? It's like, The coolest guy. They're actually really coolest guy. They're not thinking about that. They're not like, they just go the way they are. Well, you know what's interesting about that concept

is that all those things that you mentioned, the cars, all this outside stuff, like the sunset, this stuff, those are very like human, like innate human experiences. All the other shit is all just shit that's contrived and force that we believe is what we need to have

or we should have to look like this or appear like that. to impress someone dude i've been last time i went to work or i took two days off and i did i told my family no commercials no pictures no fucking nothing i me and my dad went to the farm we get there grab jumping the horse went for a fucking 45 minutes to the fucking ride and just was just Just angless mountains, just fucking river, nothing but just the sound of the sun. There's a couple crickets out there, a couple mosquitoes, but when that song came down, dude, it's just, I go back to the little things.

Sometimes I just saw my kids, let's go for a walk. I want to go to the park. Fuck the park. We go to the park all the time. Just let's just walk. And we don't even have to talk. Just look around. Just fucking look around.

You can go better. where you go where you go but let's just go out like let's go to the beach let's not make this crazy plan or like just go take your shoes off and go you're gonna get wet like something's like oh you're close i'm like what the fuck is just clothes i see parents just screaming at the kids in the beach don't get i'm like motherfucker you are in the bitch yes i get it sometimes you go with the not with the right clothes you're in jeans who fucking cares yeah it's fucking salt water it's good for your silence you fucking moron but whatever i don't i can tell that to the parts but you just keep it simple don't get too crazy and just try to I feel like we're I feel

like people are coming back to trying to learn how to keep it simple because it's been so like everything's just so forced and so contrived and so like external like other people like I said impressing and now it's like I think people are slowly coming back to realizing how important this is I feel influencers fuck it up a little bit for the regular people for sure they're like I'm obsessed with this new fucking this and this uh And everybody's like, oh, I need that because she got more photos than I have. It's like, it's so sad to think like. But I've, I've seen that from the outside.

I'm just like, dude, dude, you really guys live like that? You guys, everything goes off like how much followers you have. Yeah. What color is your check or your blue or your goal? People pay for that shit. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, if you're paying for that, you should, you should know you're going to do nothing in life. Like nothing.

That's your biggest achievement. Pay for a blue check. Well, now it's like. Yeah, now it's like, it's like so easy to pay for it. But I remember back in days when people used to pay like 15,000, 20,000 for it. I know. Yeah. That's like, that's what you want to be, you want, you want to be so bad to be part of something.

Yeah. And you go and pay four times the price of a watch in the great market. Yeah. I mean, if it's meant to be, the 80s, and I give it to you. Yeah. Just be patient. Don't try to flex hard. I get it.

Drake has it. But guess what? Drake had more business than you got in the bank. So shut the fuck up and just leave your life. Don't try to be. like other people that you're right and I'm I'm I'm I like Drake I don't great success I love that oh yeah yeah successful people but people who know just like goes like I want that yeah in Dallas is gonna be three 400 thousand yeah and the retail is probably what 80 yeah well

people are so caught up and like just like I said just showing off like the flexing the bullshit I'm like I try I really brag about don't live like that like I'm trying to brag about the opposite just just just just be you there's nothing better than yourself and unique. Well, it's also interesting that concept because it, right when you say that reminds me immediately about all the people who come to me and they ask me like trying to be an influencer because it's like the world that I'm in, right? So my, my, the people who watch me come and they say, oh, how do I do what you're doing

essentially, right? And there's so many people doing it. So how can I do it? Because it's so saturated. And that's the concept that is, is always true is that yeah, it is everyone's doing it. But the people who have success and who have success long term, they're just fucking themselves. and they find the lane and it works for them

and then it stops working and they switch the lane and they change it up and again we all have a different path there's a thousand podcasts but there's not a thousand successful ones so it's just like yeah maybe yours is not too successful right now

but don't go too far looking like fuck I'm never gonna be your wrong because you never will be because your wrong is your wrong but if you keep doing your thing and you keep trying to talk to interesting people and you yourself got be interesting because no want to talk to a

fucking idiot. So it's like the path to success is not the same for nobody. It's a fact. You just got you just got to keep exploring. Keep open, open the door. No. You know what? Go through it's fucking worth it. But there's

a million dollars out there. But opportunity's always going to be there. It's up to you to go and take. It's up to you to go and look for it. There's always chances. There's always a way there's a there's always a way there's always a way you can get out of the mud and make it that's a fact and there's also a way how to keep yourself there yeah and you can only know that by

keep going yeah that's the only thing that's your only chance in life keep going god damn i hate that i like you so much because you got to fight sean man it's fine i like you're fucking dope yeah i'm like i had no idea that you were going to be like this you know thoughtful i had no idea not that i because I didn't, I looked at some stuff, but I didn't look at a ton. But like, damn, man, like, you really, you got it locked in. I mean, why not, dude? Yeah. The way it's, like, I got kids.

I don't want them to fucking grew up in a bad environment. I know that I did. I grew up rough, but great. My parents are fucking angels. I love them. They give me what I need. Yeah. Just to get here.

so now that I have kids I'm like I gotta at least do what they did for me but as a parent you want to do it a little better I want to use a little better version of myself and some again some you can be motivated you gotta be disciplined because motivation comes and go

you need you need something that fucking commit you in life to just keep going and my kids give me that I wake up you don't feel good and you just go like they need it's not for you anymore yeah hold my beer kiddo I got you but like you find a reason yeah I mean motivation comes and goes sometimes you wake up here like fuck you just feel something feels wrong and and the day's not going good for you but everybody feels that everyone don't

feel especially you're not the only one feeling like shit everybody have thoughts they goes like oh maybe maybe maybe maybe you won't get it maybe this maybe that but you also can't believe everything you think. No. Don't believe all those more because sometimes your demons get a hold of your eating and they go like bad bad. They go negative. You're like like fuck off bitch.

Fuck off. Has there ever been a time when you like that voice, that negative voice really got to you? I mean, comes and goes and it will keep coming. That will negativity will always find a way. Same as positivity. But it's just how you handle it. We all have hard.

We all are going to, I mean, we're all going to fade. But you, have you had one, have you, is there any time if you had to, like, look back in your timeline where you're like, you remember, this was a really hard time? I mean, a couple of years ago, I was coming off two losses. One was kind of bad. Derron was just pretty okay. And, dude, you hit the lows of the loss and you're like, okay, my next fight, I'm really fighting for my job. I lose a third one. I'm cut.

And, you know, you're a lower level in life. you're a lower level in fighting. Yeah. And it's just like everything seems like I will never get out of here. I will never get, I'm going to, I'm going to get caught, I'm going to go, I will have to go back to it because if I'm not fighting for the UFC, I'm not living in California.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm here because I get to a point that I start making a different paycheck and you can stay here, you can invest your money. Yeah. And you can like get returned and all that. I got from the UFC

five years ago I have maybe three months of life in the US because you're expensive Yeah In that way you can have Three years ago Yeah like

2018 If you would have got cut You'd have three months You'd have been out Well Because what you make on the regionals I wouldn't live in the US I would have to probably go to Vegas

or Texas Or something really cheap I see To figure it out But I was that low and I remember coming to Brazil the second time my face was fucking looked like a tomato

I was fucked up three fractures in my in my in my this fucking bone right here and I was just like low like all the touch it was like I was just I was on when I told my wife I'm like fuck man

what's going on I work hard and she just again going back to the good wife she's like I believe in you you would take care of us That's a real one. You will get out of the mud. You will figure it out.

And then I went on a five-win streak after that. And then my career changed. And I got a second win in life and kind of like moved to a better apartment, put the kids in a bird's school. Because when I moved here, I went to search with San Anna. That was all I could afford. And it was... I used to live in Fullerton.

It's way better. No, no, no. But I know we're saying that is. Bro. So where I was, my wife would caught me crying, like, there's a fucking homeless knocking the door, like, asking for water. I'm like, do not open the door because he's no, he don't want water. Yeah. But whatever.

Like, they would go to the park and they were like this fucking face, the two guys on the switch just looking at the hair. She was like, it was hard. For her, it was hard. But for me, too. Because I was like, that was all I could afford. And I was barely afford in that. Yeah. But then that's what probably I appreciate.

said more now because you keep going you keep going and going back to the low moment they will come and they might come again in the future you don't know that you can't think that you will do that you got to think you will keep going up but it's life right it can go it can drift so quick left or right it comes in ways man and and the most important thing for me is just keep getting better keep doing it keep doing it keep keep maintaining myself in good spirits, healthy, and just keep aiming forward, keep aiming up, aim for the best.

Yeah. Just put a target really, really up, and go, like, I got a waste to go. Because if you don't have nothing in front of you, I feel like you, you kind of, like, get loose. You got to have something ahead of you. You got to put a challenge. You got to, like, have a goal.

And once you achieve one, you fucking put another one. You don't want to stay sit. I think that's what separates people who really do it versus people who just kind of like continue to get by in life is a goal. And then obviously the intention behind it, the self-belief, understanding that it's not always going to be easy. Everything you just said, just like just being able to keep continuing on and like this didn't work as well. Okay, I'll try this, set a different goal, a little variation. Okay, that hits and then go further.

And it's all anything. It's how you get great at fighting. It's how you get great at making content. How you get great at bodybuilding. Anything is just the same concept. It's just consistency over time. You, I mean, you have to. And it's almost that you've got to have something in front of you.

Because if you have nothing in front of you, let's see. You got two million in the account. But you have nothing ahead of you. A couple of years, you're fucking fully homeless. Yeah. When you could use that money, invested, real estate, whatever you want. And just make your role, double it up, then you triple it up, and then you just go like, yeah.

So you got, so it's not definite. I text Sean about this too. He's like, oh, I'm not sure. But Sugar Sean sounds like it's coming up. Was it in December? He won it December. I wanted tomorrow if possible. You'd fight him tomorrow.

I fight him right now. In this room. If he comes to the door, I'm fucking going. Damn, well, that's true. We got him here. No, I imagine. I'm not here. That would be great.

Holy shit. Would you fight him just like straight up? I mean, if he's here and he gives me a bad look, which I feel he will, I'm going, I'm saying, fuck it. No gloves, nothing. Nothing. And I just grab the mic and threw his face and start swinging. Fuck.

I swear. You see fighters, bro. You guys are darned. But, like, also, I'm respectful. He's such a dope guy. Have you met him? I mean, I, yeah. He's so dope, though.

I'm sure he is. Everybody is. I know. I know. Once you get to know people to a, like this, right? Like, you have a conversation. By the way, I know you fought him. I mean, you met him and, like, have you ever, like, had a conversation?

I did. Actually, way before we fought, like, years before, I was impressed. and he was there too and he was like hey chito what's up like i was like you cool hey congress and the contenders fight cool with mok he actually gave me with oh yeah yeah but i was like i it was kind of okay because he had i think i think he had one win in the jfc or he just won contenders it was that early and i was coming of a fight against him and young linic which was number three and i lost by decision and that that was it was kind of like okay to be cool which is we were so far away from in total yeah it was fine but then you're still

going by we never had a b for anything and then one day the jivsy call like hey this is if i want to make and i say cool then he started talking shit but i mean he that's a person i'm sure if you're his friend and you're not finding him he's he's a funny guy yeah he's dope but i mean That's cool. I'm fucking, yeah. Damn. So talk about the fight that you had with him.

Because I watched Demetius Johnson actually break down that fight. When he was like, when you were kicking him and his leg was getting fucked up, like at what point did you know that he was like when he started falling? No, right before. Bro, there's something in fighting that only the two fighters can know. Like there's a punch or there's a kick or there's a kick or there's a, sense of tiredness that it's almost like

it's like a computer like you're like just like oh your tire is flat oh you don't have gas it's like it's you just know like I didn't win and kick him like oh I'm gonna kick his nerve I kick as hard as I could

and I land on the right spot it's like punching somebody in the yo they're going out you don't you don't go okay I'm gonna punch him in the yo at the counter one two you just threw a combo and boom something

special happen yeah and then when i kick him it was something on his eyes and he just went like oh fuck you hurt me yeah but i mean that's not my fault i mean you're fighting and i and i get it i get all the the funny things like oh i'm undefeated i kio chito actually that's just free police it for myself if you go to my to my social meter or whatever i'm never i don't even think about him and you know how when when a guy becomes a champion the one guy or the two guys that beat him on the past they go crazy like oh so i'm the real champion there there's a guy who posted some shit about sean strickland when he i think he beat him and he's like he's an older fighter and he posted some shit like congrats like i i'm glad i got

you to get out of my weight class who is this fighter i don't know if you know but it was it was a different weight class i think was poncinibia yes and i because i was just randomly scrolling and And I was like, that was the lamest post ever. He literally was like, like, good thing you took my advice, get out of my fucking class. Like, and then he went and won the belt somewhere else. Yeah, yeah. And everyone was like, bro, what the fuck is this? It's like, bro, it's like, what you have, look, I'm being fair for San Diego.

At some point, he was number one contender. Then he got hurt, he got sick. Now his career is being kind of like not so good and he's getting older. Right. But yes, he beat a streak. in a different timeline I saw the post he posed a high level of him

and I was just like that's like he's desperate for attention like something I remember when RDA won the bell Claywood had posed a picture of like remember when I broke your jaw I'm like

no one remember that so let it go and these two guys are cool I'm cool with those guys but I'm also honest I'm going to speak my mind. I'm like, that's lame. Yeah, yeah. Like, when Sean won, check.

I don't, I was just like, yeah, I was already high by the time he won. I was, like, drinking. I was having fun with my dad. My wife was there. All my friends were there. We were sipping on wine, smoking weed. How did you think that fight was going to go, Al Jermaine? I really saw that coming.

But I also saw the other way, like, oh, there's a chance to grab him and get him tired. but this is a thing it's a fight like for for both the guys is the same for sean he needs to land a good one and for all you need to get a whole of him it's 50 50 because you got that on both but the thing with all you he loses a fight months before he went to a fight he was too he was too going against the the public opinion i'm like dude you got the bell and i'm guessing and hoping you're making millions because if not you're fucking an idiot and you're fucking really

paying attention on what a fucking pussy says online and you're like really answering to that I mean you're a fucking cook if you're like really paying attention to what people say I want to spit in your face because fuck people fuck I mean if you're my close friend

you go like hey bro that comment wasn't very good or these actions and you're my friend I'm like fuck maybe I did something wrong but if somebody online goes fuck you random person you like

you argue with that person dude you deserve to get spin your face again well you're you're mentally fucked up oh you're fucking up your subconscious is a motherfucker

yeah you sometimes you don't know when you're fuck but you're fuck and he was fucking he was in the whole press conference was like you guys I'm like

you're really talking to the crowd right now yeah I mean that's just so low level but maybe that's why he lost the way he lost because you don't run like that and he don't have the level to stand up

and look his opponent in the eye and start fucking going like okay let's go okay cool he don't have that he's a good grappler but he don't have the level to fight you don't think he has to stand up like that he's not a fighter yeah he's a great athlete good cardio

good chokes but if you have to like put your fist hard and go like come on motherfucker let's see what you got He don't have that. Like to brawl like that standing. Because I'm on the level that I can stand with anybody in my wayclos. I'm not going crazy with this shit. You know what I'm saying?

I'm not delusional. Like all my fights, lock ice and I'm like, come on. And I also say I can grapple with anybody. I never been tossed around. I never been, you know, I lost fights before. but in there I've been like oh my God he's really good at the distance thing I was watching DJ break down

the fight the fight you had with Sean you're just like distance like perfect the whole time and the way pressure again I'm talking about myself is my opinion but it's been successful I really pressure people are different I'm not rushing nothing I'm not in the rush a lot of people want to like

get out of there because they're nervous I'm like I can go to the dark side I can say there for a good time and when I say that it's like I'm really willing to get hurt in order to win. Like, I'm not playing safe in there. I'm not kind of like, I want to win by a little bit. If I got to go for broke, you go for broke.

Those are the best fights, man. Those are the best fights to watch. As a fan, those are the best fights to watch. And I'm, the one, the good thing about me is like, I'm not going to stop trying. I'm not. I've been hurt before. I've been in bad positions before. And there's just something in me that goes like,

it's very to die that don't fucking try. Oh, yeah. And I really feel I got many different advantage on him. I know where he's good. I'm talking about Sean? Yeah. He have a good right hand. All those fainty does.

He only worked for a guy that is nervous or he's like a scare of a big punch. I don't know in front of all the biggest punches ever. It's fun to watch too. Great to watch. great to watch he's he's funny he does the you know the basketball thing yeah yeah he don't do that in front of a high level guy he did that against this green hair kid that had two parts in the jfc you know what i'm saying i would take a shedding between rounds you just stand there and watch him do that no problem yeah he's like uh that was cute i mean that guy will have two

fights in the jvc two months and go cut and you want to run three with that guy i mean that's that's a little embarrassing but that guy was i was also shocked at how many hits that guy could because he was hitting him so much. Yeah, but that also tells you something. It's not that, maybe it's not that powerful. He got a good snap. But like, I rocking his hand, maybe not. Like, he's quick, dude.

He's quick. He has a very good hand. And then he has power. But if that guy can eat that many punches, I mean. I mean, I was shook watching that guy get hit that many times. Yeah, no, me too. I was like, damn. But, or he was on a lower level.

who knows but sometimes when you have nothing to lose you can fight harder too you know you get their short notice you get a big fight yeah you get a little tougher than because you got nothing to lose yeah you didn't even belong there so it might as well i try so all that can play but like he's still a good fighter so so if you you fought them next weekend how do you see it ending i think i break him and i really make him quit like not even making this up but I don't think I will stop it around what I would love to, but I think I put pressure, I stay smart, and I'm not in a rush.

We can go five. So you see you think decision? No, I think I break him and finish him. I think I really make him quit. He has a little bit of a cunt inside, and I know that. A little bit of a what? A cunt. Yeah.

He's a little bit of a cunt. He's a flaky boy. he's, you know, he's cute. He liked the face at two and, you know, looking like a, like a queer, but I mean... No, no. I really feel... Oh, I hate the Sean Slander.

I really... Because he's my guy, he's really my... But I get it. That's fine. Yeah. And I'm a... Bro, I don't trip. I love him, man. You can go tomorrow and go, like, let's go, Sean, and I'll come back to the podcast

the week after. No, I know, I know, I know. But, like, I really feel I break him. Like, he has so much to... proof. I got nothing to prove. I just want to win because I'm a winner because I really

belong there and I really have a desire of it a world champion. I want it. No one he wanted more than me. And I won die happy if I don't make it happen. I really want to be a world champion. Damn, dude. And we've got a fight for it.

I fucking believe in you. He have what he won and I won. And I will take it from him. What do you think about all the chat? You know, Like Marab and they're just, they want it over there. They want to, they want to fight him and they kind of say, you don't deserve it. Yeah. Fuck them.

I'm going to get it before them. He's not my fault. I'm better. Oh, shit. Dude, I love you. I get it. That's when he was like, I want to fight. I was like, fuck you.

Fight me right now. Be a man. Don't tell another man you want to fight. But like, I want to fight you in three months in the cage. Suck my dick. Damn. Don't talk to me. Damn.

If you're about it, be about it. Like, you don't tell another man, let's meet up in three months. That's what, like, if I would be gay, I would tell another man, like, hey, let's meet up next week. But to fuck. Not to fight. But I'm not gay. But it's like, the fact that he knocked on my shoulder and be like, hey, I want to fight. Marab.

Yeah. I'm like, fuck off. Dude. Look, I'm not a spitting your face right now. Fuck. I love how it's like you're, like, dead fucking serious. Yeah, like, I don't. But, bro, fighting, that's a thing.

Fighting is not cool, bro. It's cool to watch. It's cool to be in the arena. It's cool to dress up and you're in the big scream and everybody yells and feels good for the ego. Yeah. Fighting is a dark fucking thing. Yeah.

It's not a sport. You wake up on fight thinking, does it worse thing you could possibly do. And at the same time, you go like, fuck yeah. You got to have some sickness in there to be okay with that. That's what like sometimes people, People do it for the wrong reasons.

People want to be famous. People want to be rich. If you want that, dude, I don't know. Fighting is not the right place for that. I'm just good at it and I love it somehow and I've been successful with it. But if you could do something else, what do you think you'd be doing? I don't know. Nothing.

I want to have my coffee shop when I retire. Like, that would be my new hustle. Like, I love coffee. I love coffee. And I love, I'm at. six to ten cups of that guy yeah I'm

I can if you have here one I take one right now holy shit I can go to bed like an angel straight away straight away

oh no no not straight away I got sleeping problems my when I close my eyes my brain goes like woo oh you're like me fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

you're like pushing my wife come on baby come on I'm an energetic motherfucker dude I'm a monkey I'm a monkey I'm a monkey

I am a monkey I'm a real monkey like your sign or you're just saying like in general i don't know what's my sign like like a chinese zodiac monkey i don't know i wish i am that i'm a satiris december what you go december i actually don't know the chinese symbols but i know that you can put it up probably yeah what is the what is the what is the what is the year of the monkey like which month category i'm 92 december okay 90 december i wonder if you're a monkey in the chinese thing i'm probably i am because i fuck like one dude i hope that's a good thing oh man i hope they fuck

good. I don't know. I don't know how monkeys fuck, bro. They should fuck good. But I'm assuming you're assuming that they fuck a lot or something. Yeah. Like a monkey. Energetic, quick. Yeah. Nice and speed. Nice and tie. Last long. Bro, you're funny. God damn. So, so you really

love fighting. It's cool. Like, it's not cool, but I accept it. Like, yeah. I like the competition. I like the one and one. Like, I'm like, me versus you. Let's see who's better. It's like modern day gladiators. It is. Like, I really.

like gladys is in my top three movies movies ever like i'm an adam sandler guy i love every single of his movies talking about adam i was getting a um a face tattoo of him from one of his movies but i canceled the point but that's how much of a fan i am like i oh you're going to get a tattoo yeah of adam sandler a water boy with the with a helmet with the helmet oh my god i love i watch his movies like on five week I probably watch every single of his movies and I'm just laughing and laughing but then on five day I have this like top three

what are the top three I'll fight? Gladiator uh five and four is one shit and fucking Brian McCormick and then what's my other one I haven't right on my phone what's my third one I have five oh man on fire

damn bro there's so Denzel and Adam those are my men guys And other movies of Denzel to Batman on Fire is a fucking Make me when I kill people Yo, I love it I fucking love it

Those are good movies I'm a movie guy Dude I'm always on the look What about music? Is there a certain music you listen to? I'm My whole life I've been a reggae guy

But Marling The DUB is like The real rules Not like the trendy Like steel poles Yeah All that is great Right. I listen to it. But since I become friends with Action Bronson, I started listening to all his music and all his music related.

Like, I know Action before we become friends and I know his music, but I being a Bob Marlin guy. I got like Bob Marlin pictures in my house. Yeah. Like, I'm a reggae guy. I like the peace and love, smoking weed. I love it, bro. With friends. Yeah. But I started hanging out with a bunch of rappers. Like, I hang out with Action Bronson and then he introduced me to, like, his people.

like Mayhem Loren and then I get later to meet Larry June, Jay Ward and then now they're my friends and it's like, now it's like just by default I listen to them all the time just as much as I listen to reggae like every day

and I mean music is fucking great and I get to know them and go with them back and it's a different feeling when you know the guy because now I go war for war on the son I'm like fucking love this guy

yeah it probably means a little bit more a thousand percent but do you have like do you have like a playlist or you have any songs that like really hype you up i won't my sputify playlist is gram me award winner i have a good playlist i have a lot of songs so i don't have a top three okay okay so i have like probably a hundred songs and you just shuffle it yeah okay so the but but the music the excuse me the movies get you more hyped up it sounds like yeah i'm not a music guy i don't bring a speaker to the locker room you're just quiet everybody have a speaker

and they're kind of like none of that will help me I just need to like convince myself like you'll be fine kid or you work hard for this shit but this is this is these ones are the real facts

when you are in the locker room if you fucked up once in camp if you get drunk you're fucking around or you're letting lose if you think it's gonna be easy in camp

you will never notice that when you do this and you get in your hands wrap all those negative things you did they pop up they would you didn't push yourself you didn't work hard

I'll tell you one thing on my perspective when I'm sitting down like this I go life is a motherfucker chances or failure are gonna be there regardless but you did

everything in your power you push an extra mile you push an extra combination you punch the back harder you're getting tired and you say fuck you I want to fucking

have a heart attack right now I'm like, I'm okay. I'm accepting that I'm in a fucking face fight and bad things can happen. But I'm going to make sure they get on top. Have you, but so every single fight you felt that way? My whole career. Damn.

That's so crazy. I lost fights before. Of course. But I have a work ethic that is on match. And I just have this crazy desire of being a world champion. I want it so bad. Like, I just nothing to happen. Damn.

I just don't know when, when. So crazy. But I will be a world champion. Man, I really want to see this fight now. It will happen. I see chances that this hasn't happened are probably zero. So if you did get the fight, let's say theoretically you did get the belt. Who are you defending the two first, you think?

I'll be a great champion, so I would probably take my rapport court because they would be online. I won't get crazy with like, you know, how other people get the bill they're trying to play games or like hold the bell and milk it I'll be like

hey guys as soon as I'm healthy let's do every three months damn let's be a real champion it's like I'm not here to fuck around

I don't want to hold this in like a little bitch I want to really test defend it yeah that's why if you see my record I don't dog anybody I fought the whole

fucking monster square back to back to back I don't say like hey guys give me an easy task When they ask me who you want, I say, nobody. You just tell me who.

Because in order to get world champion, you had a half of the mindset. You can be like, oh, this guy might wrestle me. All this guy is a good striker. You just say, fuck it. I've seen a clip with Dana talking about Connor like that the same way, where it was like, I'll fight whoever. I don't give a fuck. Just did not care.

I'm like that. Yeah. I've been on doing commentary. I've been on a Saturday morning on the UFC. Ready for the commentary. three hours before five night and Twitter goes

sorry so good hurt or pulled out I text Diana multiple times I'm like yo I'm here like all fight I would take the fight tonight just for fun just to make an extra up no

100,000 oh yeah I got proof I'm like yo Dana the five foot through I take it this is how much I'm waiting it's even like I'm like super big

because if it's a 35er and I'm like between 150 and 155 you should take the fight because that's why you will wait on fight it regardless so it's not like I'm like

1 7 being a bull trying to fight as a small little guy I'm like yo I take it so you're always ready to fight yeah

and I like the adrenaline of like oh you have no chance in short notice you're not in fully shaped I'm like I want to see what happened

yo I love it that's what a real fighter should do fuck and he's just doing crazy shit excitement

yeah like that's like if they go that's why I was a street fighter because I was just like I don't know what's going to happen and I got my ass kick before like I thought I was being the good fighter and these guys went

boom boom and I was going to what the fuck was that I'm done dude who the fuck is that guy huh I've been there before like I would like say fuck you the guy said fuck you I squared up and the guy just went down the middle pop pop and I went like oh my fucking God okay cool dude

peace cool thank you and I just live like a loser by the next way they come back I said okay let's see what happened again dude I had fights with like the same guy for three four times because they would beat me and I wouldn't refuse to let go that would come back again and then come back again that's so great it sounds like a movie it sounds not real all my friends like my close friends that they saw me fight like no kidding like once a week on a club or on the beach or surfing they're like dude we will never tell you we'll be called by actually UFC fighter like we knew you would do

something you're just smart yeah but they were like you really took it to another level like you really went like I'm gonna make a living of what I'm doing I want to yell like three times for us fighting on the street you're really just a fighter that the only fuck that's the only regret that I have is like I don't have a mugshot bro because it was in Ecuador yeah this fucking don't take pictures of the bad guys that would be my that would be my that would that would my damn i wish you had a mugshot she's getting a fight now a street fight now dude call the cops of me maybe we should do it call it or just call the cops of me said i don't know who the fuck is this guy so i can get a

mugshot i just just punch me one so you get me a little black guy oh you need a fucking mug shot man i'm getting one someday but you got kids so you know maybe maybe i maybe not in california maybe okay well maybe no one's not too crazy yeah yeah no not for your kids man Don't want to put him through that. Well, dude, this is, this has been a, you're fucking, this is amazing. Honestly, I'm like really, I didn't know what to expect because I didn't do a ton of research. I was just genuinely interested in getting to know you.

But man, you fucking impressed me. So I got, I got one more question. The, the, the, the, the, the, the DMT stuff. So you, you've, you've thought about doing ayahuasca and you never did it. I, I, I did a little bit of cactus before, like when they did the tea with some Pedro. Oh, Hachuma. I took a few sips because I was a little scarce. I didn't went for the full glass. That's similar to mushrooms. Yeah, this guy was fucking epic. I was like, wow, I got this guy. Now I get what they call heaven out there. But like,

ayahuasca, I need to go to the right place with the right people. Like, it needs to be a ceremony with action like a real doctor. So that's for the future. But like the DMT, bro, I went in the elevator and I went to the top floor. when I got there, dude, my grandfather was there. He passed a few months ago of this happening, and he was there, and I didn't saw his face, but I saw, like, the silhouette. And that was him. And that motherfuckers started throwing stars on me.

So you're seeing shapes. Like, no, like, the stars. You're seeing it. He will grab them and throw it at me like a baseball. And I was just, like, dodging them and having fun with him. And he was kind of, like, training me because, I think on my blood on my DNA that's a crazy fighter

that's a man that grandfather yeah my dad's father yeah I feel like I'm him like I have all his craziness all his energy

he's the one that took me to the rooster fights every Sunday and I was bedding as a fucking six year old kid four year old kid just betting on like

I'm going with with red legs because they put tape color tapes like the fighting gloves on the on the knives talking about knives i have my grandfather knives from the 80s those things are sharp as fuck like now i know what he was a good fucking cockfighter so you went you went to cock fights every sunday fuck every sunday growing up every

fucking that was like going to disney for me and my grandfather was like the the biggest fucking man he was the man he was everywhere he goes everybody goes hey don't betto what's up like i never said somebody going like hey what's up dude he go he shop to a place it was like the biggest fucking people he was tony soprano showing up what the fuck and i was like wasn't a rich guy wasn't the owner of any big company he was just he just sell cars and move few dollars here and there like doing like little business but yeah not everywhere he goes the whole town

respect him and same with my father like it's not a rich guy he's not the owner of he's not the major everywhere he goes big hug

smiling and I was like these guys are the coolest fucking man I ever know and that's probably I am who I am but the russar fights were epic I mean the energy

in the fucking little coliseum is like go because it's very like it's not like legal it's not like yeah

if I go next to you and I go like yo red hat let's go a hundred bucks that the blue one would kill or be a dark one

you go shake hands and then whoever rooster wins either me or you take 200 bucks home yeah and sometimes people go out and I want to pay you

and then I see a lot of that and just fighting not even like a fuck you and push oh no no no fuck that that that rooster was a bitch of blah whatever all you want to pay boom just straight up and i saw that daily basics maybe maybe that shaped me a little bit yeah like it wasn't like

oh i want to pay you and somebody like okay sir you want to pay me they will fucking throw bullet straight to it like i saw guys his rooster will lose pulled the fucking gun boom boom boom boom bro like one of those can really just hit the ground and hit up and kill somebody it was just normal that's different in ecuador it's different out there different like and that was not literally i was like holy shit like they're okay if they fight but i couldn't kill an animal like that yeah and see shit like that you're like wow and he just played just his russe he just shot it oh fucking black revolver with 45 calories who're going to whack whack wag oh my you're fucking mad because people people will make a living of that yeah if you bet

few thousand there I'm talking as little town in Ecuador yeah I understand I mean you're putting half of what you already own and that rooster loses that's your life bro that's such a different life that's so crazy but dude when he was like when I was a rouser fights

I was thinking about the food the ice cream just hanging around and I've been there since 9 a.m. to 10 p.m. Never see weird shit never seen like nothing really that would shake me in the wrong way It was just a community. Like in a little living, people getting drunk.

And I, it was just cool. Yeah. So, so what else did you see in your vision? Because he was, so I saw colors I can name or describe. Colors you couldn't describe. No. Yeah, I've been there. They don't exist, which is cool.

Like, I, I close my eyes and I can see them, but I can't paint them. Yeah, I couldn't describe them either, right? No, a matter of fact. been mixing colors but can't find those. Damn. But like the basic colors, you know, like you cannot mix a blue. Right.

You know, you can do orange, you can do pink, you can do gray, but like the main colors, you can make them. That's crazy, right? Right, right. So I saw colors like that. I see what you're saying. Like, how you make those?

You can make, and the shapes. But what really happened was I took one hit, let it go quick. And the second one, you do as big as you can, and you hold. And you hold until you die. And my chest explode. That's what you felt. And I disappear.

I'm energy. In that moment, I'm not a father, a brother, a UFC fighter. There's no social, I'm nothing. I don't have a name. I'm just a piece of element going. up and when I got there it was pitch black and then my grandfather came like I don't know we're like yo what's up and I'm like but it's not it's not like when you're experiencing this you're not experienced this how we see like the world in front of us no it's right energy like I was a piece

of nothing I was like ghost I don't know how to describe it I was yeah I was just energy so would you would you describe it as like almost more of like a feeling like when it it's like a dream okay like like would you dream in crazy shit that would never happen yeah like i was on another world but it's quick it's like five 10 minutes yeah then i was with my grandfather and i was just like the energy he gave me when i came back i was just laughing and like kind of like tearing up was like whoa dude that was fucking epic and what about time did it feel like it was longer than it was it felt normal it felt like I was gone for a little bit okay and I feel safe like it felt great yeah and when you smell the empty if somebody that

don't know anything about empty you tell him I smell this and they go and you tell him what happened it takes you somewhere oh yeah when I smell it took me when I was a little kid and I will see my mom doing her makeup just to smell of it. Yeah. And I was, you know, I'm a kid. I'm the youngest, so I'm the one that spent the most time with mom. So it would take me to like she was getting ready to go out with me and I would just remember like younger mom, beautiful energy, blonde hair, big green eyes doing her makeup, I'm just kind of like stirring at the hair kind of like, I'm amazed, but how pretty my mom is, how good she's with me. And he was, my friend went like, right before we

spoke it. You didn't smell. I went like, voop. I went to that moment and I was like, and I told him, what the fuck? My friends are laughing. What do you smoke? Wow. Let's fucking smoke the shit.

Damn. And DMT calls you. It's not something like, it's not like wheat that I roll a joint and I smoke it. You know when it's right. Like if you pull it off right now, but it's like, or I say like, oh fuck you have it right now.

Boom. It happens like that. Right. That's very accurate. Like you either like you really feel like you're ready for it or not at all. And if you're not, you just not. Yeah, and just definitely don't do it.

I'd recommend. Like, you want to feel like it's the right time. You know, you will know when it's the right time. Yeah, you just know. What about mushrooms? So do you do like a strict or any sort of regimen as far as microdosing? I follow a little bit of the, the microdose from, uh, what's the mushroom doctor? The one that makes the pills a supplements.

Big beer with the bucket hat. He didn't go wrong before. Fuck. Is he, uh, The mushroom. They have a company, and I took his supplements. Like the rage, he have the regular mushrooms, but he talks about, like, the four days of microdose, three days off, four days on. And I did that for many years, like for health.

But now that I kind of like master myself and I know what I need, when I need it. I would take half a gram one day, stop for like three, four days. Then microdose for a week. They must stop for a month. Yeah, yeah, that's how I do it Just comes and go Do you ever Do you ever like

Like max dose You ever do like four grams I never I never Ever did big doses But what I What I do Actually do sometimes

I took a gram in the morning And I filled it hard And then at noon I took another half a gram And then I took another half So I ain't taking Almost three grams through the day Okay

But not at once You've never taken like a four Like four grand never interesting never damn but it's just because i feel like i when i younger like my friends would like go for a huge dose i would took like a gram and i was just like really tipsy feeling good and they were fried and i was just like looking at them and looking at them i was like just what you yeah makes me like feel like i'm already doing it i'd rather feel that you'd rather feel that but like if i'm at the right place

let's see i'm hunting with my friends or whatever i will max out of curiosity like i'm not against it right right i just i've been a gram guy in my whole life i was just taking a gram taking a gram taking a gram can you can you smoke a lot of weed though i couldn't smoke through because i can't smoke a lot of weed like i get too high and i'll get like anxious but probably smoking bad weed probably i'm smoking fucking farmers market shit like good stuff homegrown shit like fucking designer type of drugs I'm smoking like high level with not strong not the most chemical yeah not the most shit with turpents and flavors that's bullshit that's it that's for the eaters that smoke the

babe and they I don't dress me crazy seeing people smoking that shit oh babes are the worst thing makes me want to slap them on school I'm like bro that's bad for you smoke secrets cigarettes are actually okay I would just say smoke some tobacco roll up some tobacco and smoke it I smoke a spleeve here and there. I just have to tell these fucking guys that I'm smoking vapes, man. Yeah, you smoke babes, dude? Well, I think he stopped, but like one of her.

Oh, man. I just fucking, that's like literally like taking cancer pills. Straight up. I'm like, all my friends, the few of them that get into it, I've been that of an asshole that I grabbed the thing and I step on. I always take their fucking shit.

And I say, I bang where you have 50 bucks is your fucking stupid shit. Yeah. But don't do it. I'll listen to don't in front of me because it makes me sick. You're going to smoke a cigarette next to me? I'm okay with that. Yeah, yeah.

You deep in tobacco? I'm okay with that. Yeah. I also do that. Just that, babe, that's going back to the wheat, they put flavors. I mean, yeah. It's like, talking about meat. I like a good fucking ribeye, the highest quality, tomahawk.

I cook that's it all day. I make a great tomahawk. I don't want a fucking blueberry kiwi tomahawk. You know what I'm saying? A bunch of random shit. Yeah, why are you putting like flavors on the weed? I mean, people get carried away with all that shit. And then they're crazy crystals and they fucking in the lab created different.

I'm like, no, dude, just like Bob says, smoke the hurt, growing the ground, roll it out, smoke it out. Like, don't get crazy with it. And I do smoke. I'm blessed that I know the right people in the industry and I just get fucking ounces of ounces of the best shit. The good stuff. And it's clean. some indoor some out there but it's good and I feel

that with it will get you also partner if you overdo it but maybe it hits maybe it until you feel better yeah I see we need to recover a soldier you'll be fine yeah no bro because I miss it because like I would be so hit and miss like I'd have days where because I would train like bodybuilding with it

or even cardio and stuff and I'd be like once I get it right it's like perfect like it couldn't even describe I feel that paranoia also it's a sign maybe something is going on that you need to fix our face maybe maybe because when you let's see going back to the drug cocaine you go like fuck yeah i'm the best in the world wow oh we're not dying the next day with when you get partner maybe it's because it's your body's like you get so in tune that you goes like

oh fuck i've been fighting with my wife or oh my job is of the best and when you're sober you just keep trying yeah but when you're high you actually go deep to the root and then you start going to yeah that's accurate it's okay you're fucking fighting the film that's accurate

partner like like fucking action bronson gives me a big dab one day and I really almost cry and call the ambulance I've called

the ambulance before and I just one like this I'm not going to die so I'm just not going to die but I'm not going to die but I'm not going to die

fuck you film but it's gnarly dude I've been there many times like my manager one time in Vegas he dropped me up some aeribles

and somehow I thought that I read CBD. And I eat a handful of gummies. And they were fucking delicious. And then there was a moment I was feeling like I was about to die. I said I was feeling insecure and fucking weird. And my heart rate went to like fucking 180 something. And then I was like, I called me like, yo, you bring me teacher to CBD.

Oh no, CBD, brother. I know you like to get high. I would say, thank you. I hung and I started praying for like four hours, dude. I was like, please God, please don't hear. Until I realized, I haven't died yet. So if I, if I, if I'm feeling I'm not breathing properly, but it's been four hours, chances are that I'm not, not breathing.

I'll be dead. But dude, it's a long trip. Yeah. I feel like shit. I did that. I was with a friend once and I was in Disneyland and I thought I was going to die, dude. That's for, though. It was so bad.

But, you know, it was a, a little. what works for me. I told my body I will never quit with I already die having a hard time and I have enough paranoia and one day just stop coming. One day just leave me.

Just left. You gotta just fight. You gotta go through it. You gotta go through it. You're right. Just give it a try. Just small hits. You can always get more high but you can never come back. You know I'm saying.

Yeah. Sometimes take baby hits that don't even get you high. And then your brain and your body are feeling more comfy. It's all feeling. It's like going to a fight. If you go so insecure and nervous, you're going to lose. Yeah. You have to almost pretend you're not.

It's like, fuck, I'm going to win this. Fucking so accurate. It's the same. Damn. All right. All right. I appreciate you, man. Thank you for coming on.

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sex. Pinnies got on by yana. We're not teaching that. We're not. Why are we teaching all the other gender sex? It's wrong. And I'll tell you one thing. I don't give a fuck what you do with your body. I don't give a fuck the way you think. If you want to

fucking fuck a horse, a pork and a transsexual person, that's okay. Do it in your house. Because if you want to teach all this crazy shit on little kids, they will be manipulate too impressionable yeah they're kids hey guys it's okay to just like the opposite they will do

it if you teach them early to do that that will be their normal yeah whether or not something they actually want to do or not just because of the auto suggestion of it if we're not going to a first grader and tell them like hey dude to a kid you should like vagina and you should like woman and you don't go to a little girl and look little girl dick is the best for you you because then they will try it too early. You've got to let kids grow. Hormones are going to come. Bonners are going to come.

Pinos are going to come. And while that happened, you don't tell them anything. You just teach them, you're too young for some things. You know, just the right fucking way, the simple, basic ways. You don't teach little kids. You don't take the U.S. flag or the Ecuadorian flag or any country you are to put a gay flag. and I have nothing

I got homosexual friends left and right and we have this conversation and they told me we don't want to push this shit it's actually not the good people doing this there's some bad

evil shit behind all this and yeah when we talk about it some look like crazy I just give my opinion don't fucking tell my kid that he can decide what to do or he can dress like a woman

because he just know what he is and that's it there's a small percentage of there that is born with a disease or a sickness. I don't know how to explain it because I'm a fucking professional fighter. I can go in terms like these things like when you believe you're something else,

I don't know how you call that and I don't want to know it. There's people that are actually born with an issue. I don't want to call it a problem. It's an issue. I myself have a daughter with special needs so I don't talk crazy in this type of shit out of respect.

but that's fine too if you're born like that and you want to be the opposite that's fine yeah but don't tell all the regular kids that hey you should be this this or this or this you should accept this because you're not going with a trade of cocaine and go like hey kids there's a planko coke and if you cook it with gasoline and put all the things that will kill you you can put in your nose here's here I'm going to leave it here and you guys can try it if you guys want but it's not good for you, but I'm going to leave it here. It's the same shit. So crazy.

So when you want to do a parade or you're going to go fight for your rides, that's fine with me. Do all that. Speak your mind. Don't go naked. Don't bring kids. Yeah. And don't do things that are, that you should be doing on private.

Yeah. That's all we want. Yeah. I mean, say kids should be teaching kids about like, I mean, parents or teachers, rather, in school should be teaching kids about like kids. kid shit that's supposed to learn about like math and like social studies and history. I was on a school

when I was a kid. They were little kids that they will be feminine. They will talk feminine. And today they are gay. They're openly or homosexual. Yeah. Nobody did nothing wrong with those kids. They grew up like that. And that's fine. Me? I got along with them. I was cool with them. Yeah. I'm like,

you're respectful and I never pick on that they never pick on me but that's fine that didn't change the way I think but also if the teacher will be telling me like hey that's okay you can be that too I would be like what are you trying to make me that if I'm not that yeah it's interesting because they're

they're manipulating that that's when I heard this is a thing in the school this is a new subject I say find a private school so you had your kids out of school and they said that it's going to be a new thing and you were like we're out of here So my daughter is in public because especially it's class.

Okay. My son is in private because I heard of this. And then I went research and I was like, this is actually true. Like, this is going on. This is not like a rumor or a conspiracy. I don't read any conspiracy. I'm not into that. Yeah.

I'm into, I don't give a fuck what's going on. Just don't fuck with me. I love that mentality. Fuck, dude. I got friends that they're losing their mind. and they might be right but guess what they're not fixing nothing

and they will never fix nothing there's some power and little there that you can't control and you can be live your life fuck it and just make sure

you're a good person you eat well you fuck a lot and you have fun but like you can get into the conspiracy but when I get to the to the thing

that public school teach these things and explain these things and when you know what I'm not going to fight the system. I'm just going to work a little harder and pay private. So my two youngest are in private.

And my daughter, because of the program, she's in public. But you just got to stay away from that shit. Yeah. And a kid with a special class, you can't get away with more and argue more. What was that last part? You can actually fight them because they have more benefits. so if I go like fuck you you don't I don't want my kids learning this

in private school in public school right like for example they were asking for all these vaccines for my daughter and I went like there's a law that kids with

special needs they can't be on bucks you don't want to put more things to your kids yeah so I the one day they're returning from school

and I sent an email with a screenshot of what the fucking law say and I pretty much said you fuck you you can do this to my daughter she's fucking crying you heard her feelings

you send it back you're a fucking asshole and this is legal I'm gonna sue your fucking ass they call me pretty much begging me bring her back with Paul and I said

you're welcome don't fuck with her because this is what they were trying to say that she had to get a vacs like 20 vaccines like two weeks ago like we need

all these list of vaccines and I'm like what the fuck bro the world is so crazy I know what's crazy all those vaccines if they will be free I might take them

but just if you charge them I'm like suck my dick it's so funny that's why my other two go to private because they don't ask for vaccines and it's funny and then when they like back when they

when they were saying it was free but it's like it's never free it's tax money gone to like pharmaceutical companies like it's if it was for free they wouldn't be a for profit business and it's just you explain it

people just don't want to hear it they just want to be like but that's going back to the guys that make it and to the guys that just go to the regular path and they take the punishment of being a normal person and they have, they go to sit down in class, they get a fucking paper

that says that you're a master on nothing, then you apply for a shitty job and you just say yes and thank you. It's the same people that is watching and they go like, oh, they say it's four vaccines and they might kill me, but they're good. Okay,

I do it. I just think if you eat clean, and you live a good life tell and not only what you you think that but also when it was all said done they did all the research and all the data it showed exactly that and guess what

if they push it again they will do it because there's a lot of fucking donkins out there they use they use like oh yeah if they say fucking to hit myself with a baseball

but it's fine I do it and I'm like holy Shit. Yeah, man. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's sad, dude. Yeah.

Because one day he's going to get out of control. That's what I'm like, that's where we're headed though? It feels like, where do we go? And other countries probably look at the U.S. and go like, this fucking... They're like, what are you guys doing? They're laughing. Fuck.

I mean, you got to put control. You need the government. You need somebody that fucking... Okay, guys, we're not fucking Vikings. We're not raping each other and killing each other. Right. We need that. We need the cops.

We need the firemen. All that shit. We need the fucking. fucking guy that says like hey guys this is good this is bad set the rules and the laws yeah we need to be civilized but don't use that and go to a really dark yeah they took it all the way all the way you need you need that fucking control you know rapists all those fucking yeah kill them hang them burn them you know yeah you crash accident driving drunk okay you're needed but you're not really that so you're going to you still go to yell you need those rules right right right

but they're going like to control the craziness of just humans but like the fact that they were letting sex offenders out of prison because they don't have enough sources during COVID that was crazy bro when I heard that I'm like let go let go the drunk idiot that by accident kill somebody I mean granted the other family probably might want to kill him don't let go fucking rapist people those was instead of letting them go let him go let him go let him go and go I don't just instead of letting them go put him the fucking what's his name Hitler's fucking Chambers they're the ones that should be there not the good people or not normal people you know what I'm saying

you're talking about in California they're letting the people out yeah it's crazy like there's sex offenders yeah the moment you step on somebody's else's rights your rights are gone especially that way

gone especially that way if you shoot somebody if you're a bad person you kill your rights are gone there's no fucking human rights on you. You become nothing. You deserve nothing but the same. Yeah. I don't know why it's gotten

so, I don't know. It just seems like... I mean, who sets the rules? When you come with all this human rights scene and we need a second chance, somebody that is raping out there, they don't need a psychologist. There's

already something wrong and there's not fixable. Yeah. Those ones you discharge them. Yeah, why are we so sensitive and so soft nowadays? So soft. No one right by accident. No one do nothing of those bad shit. It's intentional.

Yeah. Kids, adults. If you make, you have one of, like when Kanye Belasquez went to yell for shooting the guy that did something to his daughter, that's wrong. He was on his right to fucking kill the motherfucker. Yeah, it's, it's, I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened dude that that thing hurt me because I'm at that I'm like you do

that to my kid I'm not gonna miss when I should he because kind did miss I won't miss and he still got fucked for it it's just crazy how it's I don't get it man I don't know what I don't know where the fuck it's going that's the thing when I asked about kids and stuff like do you ever do you ever worry about where it's like when I'm gonna dude I sort of what I'm like a fucking eagle that I'm going up going back to my eyes when I'm in the park and I go with my three kids. I could go by myself, but I would never be on my phone

if I'm in charge of the kids. In the park, I'm fucking, dude, I'm like, I'm hearing elderly here. Natchez is on my back. And he's here, and I'm just fucking going like soon, soon, soon, soon, soon, soon, soon, soon, soon. Hey, be careful. Like a hawk.

Bro, it can really happen like that. Yeah. Somebody, out of the blue, gone. there's 40 kids 20 that I mean it's a lot of people yeah you can be

like looking to the fucking sky I'm I got like military intelligence bro like I'm like I'm like hearing you here and if for a second I don't I'm like hey get close come here because there's sick people

out there dude yeah I mean sometimes I notice this is if somebody's parking like, you know, somebody that just park on his car and smoke a cigarette. I'll go like, yo,

you know you're going to smoke a cigarette anywhere by in a park with the kids, right? It's weird. What? Could they a good person. Yeah. I don't, when I'm driving, I don't park

in the park. I either park home or go to my friend's house or stop in a coffee shop. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? When I see a, car park just a man but you're applying your logic to what you would do in the

situation yeah like i don't i wouldn't park in a park in a park and chill there i you know what i'm saying like when i see a random car i goes like you got kids here no fuck off that what what like it's just weird it is weird it is weird it's kind of it's weird as fuck like you don't go i only go to the park like or go to a dog park with my dogs I don't have kids. I go to the dog park with my dog too, but you see my, just picture this. You would drive tomorrow morning and park outside of park. And tell me if you feel okay doing that.

I'm sure I wouldn't. I'd be like, why am I here? I would park anywhere else. I go to Whole Foods get a smoothie. Yeah. Maybe go get some asai or some shit. Yeah, go get an assayee. Maybe a coffee.

A thousand percent of coffee, but parking a park. I would never do it. I mean, if you want to use your computer, you go to a coffee shop. That's what like, even those little things I'm like, I'm already have a target in your shoulder. Damn, you caught those motherfuckers quick, dude. Like, I'm like, if you're parked there and you're smoking a cigarette, I'm like, okay, if you're a homeless guy and you're just fucking chilling there out, I get it. God bless you. I know you have a fucked up life or you fuck that, whatever.

But if you're in your car, recline your seat, looking at the park, that's weird. Those are the motherfuckers you got to look out for. That's weird to me. Yeah, it's weird as fuck. because i'm like have you ever had anything like that happened like weird like obviously you said you told them to get the fuck out but anything anything actually happened weird in a situation like that i have never been close to something like that or probably lucky for that i never i never been like in a situation that somebody else is like what's my kid you know in the mall yeah because

that that dude that's for that yeah i couldn't imagine and that that thing happened that that's a real thing happening the world like the sex trafficking yeah kids being taken missing yeah that's happen and you that's like like the cartels you will never stop you don't just think about that i you never see that stuff really covered that much i just think that's interesting just something put out there like in the media in general like you don't see being sure yeah we just got these bad guys doing this like yeah i don't know they find a couple kilos of cocaine they caught you know the fucking guys from whatever yeah but you don't see like sex traffickers It's like, because that shit happens.

Like, you remember when in Hawaii, they were like tagging cars and people were telling stories? Like, this group of people would, like, put a sticker in your car. So the other guys know when you go to a car, they should take you. It was for a while there was something going on like that in Hawaii. Oh, I didn't remember about that. And I was like, that's fucking crazy to me. They were putting stickers on cars in order to like tell someone.

Like, for example, let's see, I go in there and I see that's a cheek by their myself I make sure she's no with nobody I would put like a little little something in the car like I don't know like a like a piece of tape or so they were doing this to like indicate that people were like like letting the other like the guys that would commit the crime like hey be pay attention to this car like you can get away with this one that's that's an easy prey so oh shit yeah and I was seeing that in the middle for a while like people were going to full on testimonies I was like what the fuck

I'm okay with the people making drugs and selling drug I can control that people want to be a drug addict that's your decision yeah but fucking with people

yeah taking lives away yeah especially kids especially kids that rules should be set anything of those things with

hearing people's lives yeah it's 100% you're going to deathbed yeah I mean anytime you fuck it's like putting yourself and fucking up with someone else's

I'm not going to go crazy because I would love to get crazy with what I really would like to do to these people but for the human right fucking poohsies out there let's say this just send them out quick you know what I'm saying? Yeah but it takes one offense it's not like oh yeah he was

drunk I've been drunk a thousand times you don't think that. Yeah I know the only thing I'm thinking I'm drunk is my wife and she's 30 you know what I'm saying Yeah. One offense, the minusculus. Get rid of them.

Done. Straight up. I mean, if you're drunk and you're paying in public, they put you in the same category. That's false, yeah. It's crazy. I mean, if you're drunk being in a parking, giving your back to the people,

and some guy called the cops in you, they put you in the same line as you's raping somebody. That's... So that's how dumb... I get it. If you're taking your dick off in the middle of McDonald's and you're peeing inside because you're drunk and disrespectful, put the guy in jail, maybe punch him and knock him out.

But you know what I'm saying? That's not a rapist. That's a fucking idiot. Put him in jail giving the same punishment. But somebody that is committing an actual crime like raping or abusing. Yeah. You're done. Just get rid of them.

Just get rid of them. You don't need that motherfucker anyway. I agree. I don't you really believe on human rights and second chances? You know what's interesting, though? The crazy thing about it is, I don't understand why people are so sensitive about it all is because if you really gave people that actual expectation,

it would stop. You know what I'm saying? Like, I really do believe that it would have shop a lot. Like, obviously, like, there would still be people who just have that fucking much of an issue that they have. But you will send a message. You will be like, hey, dude. That's the point.

You want to be a, it's as simple as this. What happened if you put your hand on fire? You get burned. Yeah. There's no. No, this I'm not getting burned. But that's what I'm so interested in is like, it's accepted because like I could say I wouldn't do it.

You could say you wouldn't do it. Jacob say you wouldn't do it. Like we know it wouldn't happen, right? So I would never worry about that. And because it is such, like everyone goes and they know how how much of a serious fucking thing it is to affect someone's life that way, then why wouldn't we all agree that, yeah, this person should not exist. It's dead.

Like that person would not. But how, I'm curious, like, why are people sensitive? about this sort of topic because there's certain things it's like like you said if I'm a drug addict and I affect and I fuck my life up that's my choice yeah but if I go and affect your life because something is going on in here or I affect your kid because something's going on in here like there should just be no okay around you contribute with nothing in this world if you're a brother like that there's no value in you and if anybody there want to say that you can change

okay fly that motherfucker to your house giving the next room to him next to your fucking beautiful little daughter and tell me what happened that motherfucker will take the first chance and fucking do bad things yeah it's so i just don't understand i don't know what i'm like there's there's there's no human rights there because you're already abusing others people human rights you're already broken into others people privacy that means your rights are taking away that moment too yeah it becomes even because it's this is the most intimate like trauma thing that you could ever do to someone and it's just kind of like but I don't understand how people could

even and maybe it's I don't know if it's just a media portrayal but how would you even argue the opposite like how would you even say no they should be treated like this or like that's like no people should just know what the fuck is up you do that it's a it's a huge fucking deal and you're done sorry you made a mistake but yeah like why would there be any sort of we have to do it a different way there's there's no there's not maybe because whoever is stuck in the decision is doing the same thing i don't know you know what i'm saying like there's no other reason to me to think why they're not changing this law like war way doesn't matter where you are there's no there's no there's no like maybe or you know what second chance it's a wrap yeah i feel like

most people agree with that too i think i think so too Yeah, I just don't, I don't get it, but it is what it is. Oh, fuck, man, different topic. Dude, I like talking to you. Thank you, bro. It's like we got high and we kind of, you know, got a little further. Maybe a little bit politically correct or incorrect depending on whatever. Doesn't mind.

They decide. Which are what we want to talk. It's great talking to you. Bro, you're, are you, have you ever done, have you done a bunch of podcasts? I know you speak. You do like, you said you did the commentary stuff? Yeah, I'm easy to talk, bro. Yeah.

I'm seen, but like, the, to answer the best of the questions, like, I'm not trying to fit on what you like. Doesn't matter who's talking to me. Can be the biggest superstar, can be the guy that cleans the floor,

can be my cousin. I'm going to talk the same. I want to be straight forward. I want to say crazy jokes. I'm going to say crazy shit. But also I'm going to be very serious about serious topics. To me, it's easy to talk.

Yeah. Like, the only reason I don't have podcast is because I don't I don't want to yeah but I feel like I'll be great yeah for sure it's funny man it is it is funny I just feel like it would take a little bit of my focus of fighting I know their fighters do but a lot do I've noticed it's getting popular more popular yeah because they're seeing success in other people but I'm like I stick to what make you good yeah maybe when you're done maybe exactly later you put other goals in front of you okay these things over listen my grandpa says if you put too many things in your

hand you will be able to squeeze nothing fuck that's such a so so you just I remember he always something like hey dude because I would play you know I would play with the I would be making holes and using all his tools just for fun yeah and he's like hey don't try to do 20 things if you want to dig a hole dig a hole and don't try to like make 20 make one Say the hand thing one more time. Sorry, that bar went. It was good. It was like, if you put too many things in one hand,

you won't be able to squeeze one. Bro, I'm about to tweet that shit as soon as I get off this podcast. I'm not even trying to be funny. No, but it's true. There's little things that stick to me. And that's true. It's such a beautiful saying.

It's the podcast is great. And I know everybody. I can just text everybody. Like, yo, you want to do, you want to do it. I would fly you hit it there. Boom. Yeah.

It's just, it's not, it's not the moment. I feel like fighting. me great Friday give me success I keep on doing it because I know I'm capable of doing many things I have the personality have the work ethic so right now it's just like focusing that and I do like to go to other people's podcast yeah like it just fun for me to just get to another people and or you just talk about cool shit yeah I'm glad you came man this is this is a fucking a blessing and honor really appreciate it thank you bro and fuck good luck on your fucking outcome if I don't know exactly what it's gonna be I

guess you don't know either but i don't know but i just i'm really prepping i'm convinced it's happening i would love i'm already on the horse for that so so it's going to be in new york man that's november i know i doubt he will fight that quick he needs time to get the the hair done and the nails done so oh shit you know oh fuck but um this is like the low-key shade i got to got to have to let that slide yeah i'll let it's all that slide i will but i will i'll be ready i maybe it's gonna be maybe it's next year he he's not the type of guy that will turn around quick on fight he'll have those type of balls damn but but regardless i'll be ready i can't wait to see the way this podcast ages it will be great i want to see you guys fight so

bad now we will fight we will fight okay well i appreciate you coming man um where can they find you obviously socials all your shit chito cheeto cheeto better at you see chito bear in facebook i don't know follow me yeah you're dope man thank you appreciate you coming it's fucking awesome good to meet you