RAWTALK - DATING SOFIA FRANKLYN...

Episode Date: February 1, 2023

We have the Lovely Sofia Franklyn who is a pro in the podcast world. We discuss the struggles on social media, our journey, and growth throughout the process. They share their perspective in regards to their experiences in relationships, dating and settling down. Sofia gives her hot take on women getting their bag, society, masculinity, and gives us a update about the mysterious suit man...SPONSORS HTTPS://www.liquidiv.com use code:RAWTALKSUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK...LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzS...SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQ...SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartyn...

Are we recording? We're recording, yeah. We just run into it head first. It's been recording the whole time. You went and did a podcast or something last night, and I got to address this because I don't know why. Why don't even got to start the pilot? Why is Steinie such a...

You got on the phone with me after. So give you guys some context. We had scheduled to do the pot at like eight last night. It's like 8, 8.30. And they're like, oh, it's running late. And then I'm like, okay, I'm looking at the story. I'm like, oh, I know we're. she's at. And so then Steinie calls me and is like he does whatever shit on camera. My question

to you is this when he said that he helps me with something, what did you mean by that? What did I mean? Yeah, what did he mean? What did you interpret from that? I honestly have no idea. How would I know? You would know. Okay. Was it on camera? Was it on camera when he was saying that? I don't remember, but there's someone in this room who would remember. Was it on camera? You don't know. She doesn't know. He, I just remember he hopped off the camera. And he seemed visibly upset. Okay. That you were coming to do my show.

Yeah. Okay. And then he said, yeah, like he always does this shit. And then I think Gabe said something like there's some competition there. There's no competition. I have no competition. I mean, I can't have competition. And then he said something along the line.

This is on camera. I don't remember. Should we call and ask him? Well, he said it was on camera. All I'm saying is if he said this shit off camera, I'm smacking this out of him. It could have very well have been on camera. Okay.

I don't know for sure. Because last night I told him, I was like, why would you tell someone you do some shit for me? No, I know. I love how I told you in confidence. And then five minutes later, Steinie's calling me like, Bradley and I are so cool. Like, we are totally chill. Like we're best friends. Yeah.

Well, he would say, like, I don't know what he was saying. Because when I talked to you, it just sounded like, like, he sounded like, he sounded like he does something for me. And that like he was like, I got to post this before him or some shit. Yeah. did say was that on camera how am I so when it comes to full send and nilk and if the cameras are on or off I'm assuming they were probably on okay I hope so hopeful for his sake I'm like 90% sure okay me trying to cover for steiny now yeah well we'll see if it shows up on camera or not because he's telling me it's on camera because if you said that lame shit off camera then he's just lame

then it's in a shoe yeah because it's like I get if he's doing it for the camera and it's like banter it's funny right but being like an actual bitch off camera and being like i gotta post this before him it's some it's some ho's shit yes that is some ho shit so he did look visibly upset though see and i don't know i don't know if you can like fake that you know what i mean yeah i don't think you can fake that i think he was actually cheased steini's listen man i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt if i find out otherwise i'm coming for you okay so fuck all that but i just had i had to figure that out right away because it was on the top of my mind.

Okay. Let's talk about you. Okay, great. So obviously we got to get this bullshit out of the way because. Well, like introduce my name, maybe. No, everyone knows your name. Your name's in the title. Your name's in the title.

What do you mean? Okay, perfect. We don't do like the professional podcast shit. Oh, we don't do that here. We don't do that here. Okay. We just run it. Your name is probably already there.

They're like, oh, Sophia Franco. Okay, I'm here. So they don't need to audibly hear it. Yeah. I mean, we can say it if you want to say it. Go ahead. Tell us, tell us all your accolates. it's so few of enough and the last name is franklin with a why which you're martin with a why

correct we're different i've never met someone with the why instead of the i it's a thing there's something there's something it's a real thing so we got to we got to we got to get into this um did you really thought flop a 30 million dollar bag because this is what dave said i feel and this was years this time ago yes but we're going to talk about it because there's some questions i want to ask you in regards to it. Yes. That are more important than obviously the whole thing. Right.

Which I'm going to be very nice. And I'm going to answer and talk about it because you're kind. But this shit happened almost three years ago. Okay. And people still talk about it. Yeah. I'm pretty sure Dave went on Joe Rogan's podcast. Recently.

Yeah. Yeah. Right? And it was brought up there. Yeah. What did they say? I didn't hear all the details of it. I think it was like the same kind of like you fucked up.

Right. Yeah. Fumbled the bag. Yeah. I love the face you made. Was it, did you hear 30 million or 60? 30. Where did you hear the 30 number? There was some clip Dave was talking to, I forget who, he was doing an interview and someone

was asking him about what happened and you had to just wait like a couple more weeks or six more weeks or some shit or some shit like that. Right. So what is your question exactly? Did I fumble the bag? Did you fumble the bag? No, I did not. Okay.

I had a business partner and a best friend who decided she wanted to just kind of take over the show. We were not talking. She had a relationship with Dave that I was not aware of. Yeah. That was very like behind my back. And that's basically it. Yeah. The reason why I'm asking this kind of stuff, obviously it's, you know, it's relevant to you as a whole in like social media world.

But the bigger things I want to try to understand is like, Beyond understanding, did you fuck up or not, because it's kind of, it doesn't matter. This one, like you said, it's years ago. I want to know about the things you learned along the way. And I really want to understand, before we get into this part of it, before you blew up with that podcast with your friend, what were you doing? And were you, like, aware that you were going to run into this, like, this massive audience. Like, because from what I understand is you guys started this podcast and it, like, it took off pretty quickly. Oh my God, overnight.

Yeah. Like three months into it. Yeah. We were top female podcasts in the world. And so I'm trying to understand before this, what were you doing? And were you expecting this to come? Like, was this like, oh, we know this is a good idea. This is going to work.

Or you were just like, holy shit, we turned around and we're like, everyone loves this. I had no fucking clue. None. No idea. I was working at Morgan Stanley in finance. Yeah. and like a nine to five in a cubicle and I had no fucking clue you know what that's that's a little bit of a lie because when I was living in Utah which is where I was born and raised every time sorry

because it's all Mormon every time no I am not but my mom was raised Mormon so I was raised a little tiny bit Mormon so did you have anal before vaginal sex is that that's another thing that I just knows the poophole loophole yeah exactly right exactly no that's not okay I actually went to private Catholic school oh shit me too really yeah okay went to private Catholic school and then I went to an all boys Catholic school okay how was that it was fun it was it was competitive very like highly competitive like you and Steinie no I'm not competitive at all with steamy I can't compete with a guy like that we're on different levels as far as competition goes okay yeah talk your shit so um so right So I was born and raised in Utah.

I started working at Morgan Stanley there. And I was so fucking miserable at my job that I remember sitting at my desk and I would manifest, right? I would like envision a life in New York and having a podcast actually because all I would do all day long at work is look through documents and listen to podcast all day. And like everyone else on planet Earth is like, oh my God, I could do this. Like I can do this shit, right? Yeah, yeah.

Everyone thinks that when it comes to podcasting. I thought the same way and then it manifested. Did you have social media? Were you using social media at the time? No. Wow. I'm not really, I wouldn't say I'm a private person, but I'm not like super into posting every aspect of my life at all.

So social media shit, you were like, you didn't, I guess you didn't expect it coming, but you said you kind of did? you kind of yeah like when did you how did you start to expect it so I didn't expect it right but looking back after it happened that's when I that's when I was able to realize oh well maybe you did create this for yourself but I did not expect it right when it happened yeah was that Chinese no no it was great no no it made sense it made sense okay good so making sure did like what came along with it when it started to because like sound because i've been doing social media for fucking years and i've been doing all these different iterations like content form like doing this

like sketch type shit comedy type shit fitness type stuff for the bulk in the beginning half and then like evolve into different forms and now doing the podcast stuff and all the other content shit that i've made so it's like i've had these like these moments are kind of naturally be like okay what's next what i want to continue doing you just kind of like working some regular job and then a couple months in you're fucking massive yeah so what did that do to you like mentally were you were you like okay what was it easy was it comfortable did like people your friends being like oh help me with this put me on your podcast like what was that like i didn't have that issue i think you know what it was i didn't really feel that different to be honest i was happier because i was in a career

that was fulfilling and something I like to do. But I didn't feel necessarily better or famous or cooler or anything like that. I just, I felt like Sophia. And I really, I've never changed, you know, because a lot of people do change when that type of thing happened. Oh, yeah. I just kind of stayed the same. I'm just very like level-headed, very grounded.

I mean, I'll admit, like, yeah, it was cool. It was cool leaving my apartment in New York and people running up to me and being like, can I get a picture? But it never got to my head. Yeah. And I never felt like I'm the fucking shit, you know? Yeah, I understand. Do you have any regrets?

Do you regret that fucking up the call of daddy thing? Do you regret that at all? No, I don't. I think I really, this is going to sound so corny and cheesy, but I really think things do happen. for a reason and there's definitely like some silver lining there and you so you enjoy doing all this podcast stuff is like what you have fun doing do you like any other forms of content or is just this kind of shit youtube which now i'm starting to i just got into youtube and like filming

video yeah the i do love to podcast i can talk for seven hours straight but you know it was a little bit hard to jump back into podcasting after all that shit happened you know what i mean yeah have you ever been like canceled dragged through mud oh my god yeah really yeah on my level though oh i i lost i lost 70 000 subscribers overnight when i hit a million on youtube why i got dragged by by another guy who was like talking shit and saying that i was doing all this stuff okay um and that was that was like i remember for like man two years after that i was like fuck i don't even know if i want to do this anymore two years for two years i was yeah for two years i still dealt with these bullshit comments about shit that it's like I just had to sit and just deal with this this type of hate that I knew in

my heart what had actually happened and the way it actually went I'm just like it didn't even matter what I said at that point it was just like everyone has this narrative and this is who you are and that's that and it doesn't matter and I remember for two years after I was like so like demotivated to even make content and I but I did it because I knew that I technically had to right um but yeah it was it was fucking difficult and I've gone through many many versions of this not to the same degree but in this uh in this industry that i'm in the fitness industry where people just tend to you know because i'm doing i think because i'm doing other things outside of the industry maybe sometimes i have like a different type of reach that is like a little more i don't want to

call it mainstream because it's still in the social media realm but a lot of i think a lot of those like guys in that industry see it and they're kind of like you know they just like to say stuff yeah they like to tug to try to like pull themselves and right and it is what it is i understand it at this point. Definitely a frustrating thing. It took me years though to be like, fuck it. No matter what I do, people are going to say, I love you, I hate you, even if I try to do everything right. Right. And if you try to explain yourself and try to change the narrative, there's no point. There's nothing you can say. Yeah. Which actually, I'm so happy. Like, that was so refreshing to hear you say like two years later, right? You were still struggling

with it. Yeah. So, I mean, the shit that went down, That was, I don't know, two years ago, roughly, maybe a little bit over. So I'm really happy that you were depressed years later. Yeah, no, I was fucking, I mean, it might even been a little bit longer. It's just like every, and sometimes I'll see little things here and there and I'll be like, this shit. Even today I asked you this question, right? I'm assuming you've probably asked this shit a thousand times. I wanted to ask it though, not because I needed some like different perspective on it.

It was more so I wanted to understand more about you. So I didn't mean to, I'm not trying to like be in this or no, no, no, no. No, no. I mean, it's part of my history, right? It's huge. It's huge. Because it's like, it's also a massive part of your come up. So I wanted to ask you this, though, too, in relationship to the come up, before you

were even close to this, I know, you had this job. When you were younger or at any point in your life, did you ever feel like you were going to do something like bigger than normal? Or were you just like, I'm just going to try this and see if this works? Because I talked to a lot of people who are like very successful. A lot of them have that feeling like there's just, in their heart, they have this feeling like there's I know there's more for me and sometimes I remember when I was younger I had that and I didn't know what it was at all I didn't have a clear line at all but slowly but surely it's

almost like I found myself getting there yeah that's a really good question I've never thought about it like if you look back in your childhood were you ever like oh I you know I want to be an actress I want to I want to do something big or you know what I'm saying I've ever had those thoughts well the I never had the thought like I'm going to be famous or I want to be but I I mean, I grew up in fucking Utah, once again. That is the most conservative little bubble place you can grow up. You know what I mean? And I do remember always thinking, this is not it.

There's something bigger. There's something more out there. Hence why I moved to New York. So I guess kind of back to this like Alex Cooper shit. When you met her, were you guys, was she doing podcast shit or was she doing anything in this space? So. Like, whose idea was it to be like, yeah, let's do this show.

So it was ours collectively. Yeah. She, um, went to school for film and shit and she would, I don't know, edit like some YouTube videos here and there and was active on social media. Podcasting never, had never done it. And then, but she didn't do that professionally, right? It was just a hobby. And then we were approached by someone.

Well, actually, excuse me. Let me back up. Yeah. We had really, really amazing chemistry. And we were really funny together. And we decided, oh, we should launch a YouTube. And we uploaded one video, which I would, I hope it's not out there because I would fucking want to cry. I'd be so embarrassed.

But do you ever look back on your content? Like, what the fuck? Yeah, all the time. I could look back on my first videos. I'm like, but, but it's also dope because that's, that's where I. I was that's where I actually was and I would that's what I knew right and like I thought that was good enough and but to be honest like there's a lot of videos I filmed even prior to posting even my first videos I never posted him because I was like I fucking hate I must have

filmed like 30 videos I was like never gonna post this wow and then but then my first videos even the ones that I posted I was like at like I could see it I'm like and I had no idea how to talk smoothly I had none of this could have happened like I would have just been like wait hold on let's start over let's start over yeah so but that's that's a part of this shit. Right. You never feel like once you've finished something, that's it. That was fucking perfect. Like upload it. Never. I never do. Nowadays, this stuff to me though is seamless. This stuff to me is like just a conversation. This is so, so easy for me. Yeah. Because I really enjoy it. Yes. And but it's weird because the stuff I, okay, it's interesting because I did

fitness shit and I did really enjoy talking about fitness stuff. But I never enjoyed like I would do the work and like I was always good at doing the workout and like the banter in between like I could just talk to the camera but I was never good at doing the workout and then standing in front of a camera and then trying to explain what I had done because I'd be like oh hey shit what what did I oh okay I was more like just it was more candid if it was easy for me like if it was like if I'm working out and I got up and I took my headphones off and I started talking it'd be like my genuine response to something yeah first like I imagine you film a workout and then you know an hour later when the workout's done you stand in front of the camera you're trying to explain what you did yeah That's when it was like the disconnect. So I realized this this sort of conversation and content where it's like a lot of this won't even be cut really or edited much because it's just seamless. And this is easy for me. And this kind of always has been.

So it's easy. But do you have you ever, when you upload things, which it seems like you, how much content do you put out? A fuck ton. So we do we do this once a week. And then normally we do three videos on the fitness channel. And then I have another channel that I've been a little bit spotty. it the life of which is like once a week on wednesday which is like a like more of a like more

lifestyle type stuff in the video so it's like three fitness videos and then one lifestyle and then one podcast it's like five videos a week if we're on it every time so at averages though i would say four a week i'm over here trying to get one blog out yeah well you got you got a girl over here with no fucking mic that's what it is like you just got to hire more people for everyone listening i fucking walk in here and Bradley just starts ripping my whole fucking establishment posse well hold on situation operation apart to be fair you're like where the fuck is the mic on your camera what I was just like yo like come on I was I figured you know I was like 30m Sophia with an F Franklin with Hawaii she must have a fucking mic on her camera at least

you know what I'm saying you know it's part of my charm got no yeah yeah right I love it right yeah no it's good it's gritty i'm a down to earth gal yeah i love it and that is why if anyone ever complains about my blog being like bad quality just real it's real yeah i like it and that's hard that's like hard to come by these days you know it's fucking damn near non-existent these days so i'm killing it essentially yeah compared to you really well not necessarily but i think uh i think you're doing really well compared to me yeah yeah you might be doing better honestly i mean we can like compare bank accounts i'll pull mine up yeah i don't know if you want to do that he just looked to the floor he just got scared no no no no no i don't want to be i don't want to be rude yeah you don't want to be

rude yeah i don't want to be rude i promise i won't be offended give you a ballpark number i don't offend you savings i can't i can't offend you i can't offend you this is funny this is this is you're he's getting nervous no no no this is because now the next conversation next topic i want to talk about it's like a little bit like uh the controversial topic okay men and women okay and like roles and expectations and dating I want to get into this kind of stuff okay because I know you talk a lot about it I do so I'm trying to think how to phrase the question you know obviously about this whole like red pill blue pill you know about this whole no no you don't so you know you don't so you know you don't see any of the content like the guys who are like liberal conservative and they

kind of argue back and forth you never see that I mean I've seen that you've seen that thing You've seen Tate? Yes. You know about all that? Yes. Vagely, though. Vagely? Mm-hmm.

What do you know about that? What do you know about Tate? Something about he was arrested for sex trafficking. Okay. Very controversial. People hate him. Maybe a conspiracy theorist in a way. Yeah.

But that's a uninformed thing. So you don't know enough about it. Mm-mm. Okay. I guess then the question is, like do you think uh because i can't go in relationship to that though but do you think um like roles as far as like men and women have shifted over the last like i don't know five years in relationship to social media and people's ability to either fight into the dms that

fucked easier well okay so that's dating so we'll not we'll talk about that after this more so i'm talking about you know the idea of independent women and women being like getting their own money and being like a little bit more dominant, right? Yeah. People talk about the alpha female, alpha male, all this kind of shit, right? Mm-hmm. Do you think that has like sped up over the, you know, the last five years because of social media? And what's your opinion on that?

Because obviously I think you're very like, at least from what I gleaned on the internet, I think you're like the, you know, I mean, if your podcast name was call her daddy, then it's, you know, that's like. Right. Right. Feminist. Independent. Yeah. I would definitely consider myself that. Okay. Do I think over the past five years, it's sped up because of social media?

And opportunities on social media, yeah? I... Such as only fans and all this kind of shit. Right. I think that, you know, financially, obviously, I do think women have a easier time now getting their bag, right? Yeah. Obviously.

but I don't think the mentality and the perspective as a society has changed, honestly. In what sense? Like in the like the masculine perspective that like? Yeah. Like I think we we believe that we're so advanced and progressive and all of these things. But I think if you really, when it really boils down, we're all still thinking pretty old school at our core. I really believe that. Like we all want the traditional type things.

Yeah, I think so. What do you want? Like, would you, like, if you were in a relationship with, are you in a relationship with someone? Mm-mm. Okay. I know this is the whole, I'm Googling. I'm like, suit, man, this whole shit, right?

That's gone. That's years ago. Well, that was like 70 months ago. Any particular reason? I mean, do you have eight and a half hours? Because I can go off. Oh, I mean, I got time. I mean, I don't know about eight and a half hours,

but like I definitely, we definitely want to know, yeah, we want to know why. what happened. Well, okay, so there's a few things. I think one of them is. Because this was the guy who also influenced you to not take that deal. Ooh, I'm going to stop you right there. Stop me. Boy, influenced me. I would not say he influenced me. I'm a grown adult, right? But he was part of it. He was involved with not just me, but with, you know, Alex as well. okay so yes like as a friend or what do you mean um involved definitely a friend and we would talk business quite a bit got it he's older 11 years older okay i think that was part of the issue

part of the reason and you're 30 right okay okay how old are you 33 okay yeah so i think the age difference i think when all of that shit went down i never once thought about leaving him ever and I stood by him and the love for him did not diminish at all but I think what happened was it was traumatic very traumatic and we spent the next two years just trying to keep our head above water and just taking care of ourselves like in relationship to that situation yeah yeah okay and so we became very disconnected because we're just trying to take care of ourselves You know? Yeah.

And not each other. Yeah. We didn't have the bandwidth, the capacity to. So I think that's ultimately what happened. Yeah. But also I think me turning 30. It like freaked me out a little bit. What if what, what scared you?

I think that there's a lot of pressure for women around the age 30. It's like, oh shit, you have to get married and have babies. And so when that birthday was coming up, up, I think I freaked out a little bit. And I was like, is this the guy that I want to do all that shit with, you know? And how'd you determine if he was or if he wasn't? What do you base that off of? I guess I just, when I, when I ask myself that question, I think if you're asking yourself

that question, is this a guy I want to do it with? That's your answer. Yeah, maybe. I think so. No, that's fair. That's a fair. I mean, obviously I can't say your opinion is wrong. I'm just curious to think, like, wouldn't you always ask yourself that in relationship to anyone, though?

Like, because you have to ask yourself that question, right? Because then you go, okay, what are the qualities that I like or dislike or things that I appreciate or need or want more of? So you have to ask yourself that question because it's a personal question as well. I disagree. Why? Because I think that if you're in the right relationship, there's never a question. It's like, this is my guy. I love this. I love this conversation right now.

This is my guy. I know, but this is so. great because like that's like the fairy tale your your your perspective is like when you know you just know and it just is but that's also not realistic in life because like you grow and you you know you went through those things and not that you know without those things maybe it wouldn't have worked out anyways but part of i think life and relationships is is being able to like jump over these hurdles with someone and if you're able to do that obviously you can make it work. I don't think it's as simple as saying like you just know and you just know and that's what it

is. I don't, I just don't believe that. I, that's just my opinion. So this is what I'm going to say. I don't believe in it either, which is why I think I'm going to end up single and dying alone. Oh, shit. Yeah, it's funny. Like I'm just, I assume that that's what it's supposed to be. I don't think so. I mean, I found myself and I feel like you're the same way in. relationships thinking okay he has this this and this he doesn't have this but like you know what like i can work around that you know like i can give up certain things yeah um and that's that's how i think about it i mean there was a moment there when i thought about marrying him and i was like you know he might not have this and this but he has all these other qualities so like fuck it so what are the

i'm curious because i want to ask about this too but what are the things he didn't have that you were like I didn't and not just I guess maybe not just him specifically I mean obviously it is a relationship to him specifically but in the sense of guys like what are the things that you look for what are the things that you think most women look for to try to check their box off so because I don't want to make this like some attack on this guy right right right no I mean this would this would be how I feel about all men right yes exactly I care about I can't speak for all women I think that the things I care about are very different than probably a lot of women um for me personally it's financial stability I think most women feel that way and that's not a bad thing

there's a lot of women who it's like they only care about how hot this guy is I think that's it and I'll take I'll take care of the broke guy but like damn he has blue eyes like let's go I think that's like a very young mentality I don't know if that's like a I don't know you think older women are out there being like I'll fucking milk this baby My mom. Holy shit. My mom, period. She has been, how many times has she been married?

I love her, by the way, and she's hot as fuck, and she's the best and super smart. Yeah. She has always been the breadwinner in the family, always. And they have always been attractive dudes. Yeah. And that is what she cares about. Has it worked out for her? No.

But that's, so yeah, I'm like, it does. Definitely is a thing for sure. Okay. So what are your things then? Financial stability. Yes. I can get over the looks thing. Yeah.

To a certain degree. For sure. Right? Financial stability, being a good dad is really big for me now. So he's got to have kids already and you know he's a good dad? No, no, no. Okay, so how do you determine he's a good dad? I mean, I didn't have a dad.

So I didn't either. Wow. I probably can't answer that. You didn't have a dad for real? No, I grew up with a single mom. So maybe that's probably why it's so important. What happened to your father? What happened to him?

He just was really young when my mom got pregnant. Yeah. They were, she was living in San Francisco and he is from Spain, but he was backpacking through the U.S. They fucked in a hostel. I'm out. But they did date for like a month or maybe even a year. So does he know, does he talk to you or?

So he was not in my life at all. Until I think it was middle school. Oh, I thought I was going to be like, she's, she's rich. Call her dad. No, no, no, no. I do want to like go visit him and blog it. Yeah. That would be an amazing blog.

But, but I met him when I was in middle school. Yeah. I remember my mom and my therapist were like, do you want to meet your biological father? My mom was like, I want to give Sophia that option, you know? Yeah. And I decided yes. And I met him and it was, actually, it was very emotional, but I don't really remember, right? I was in middle school.

Yeah. And then I met him for a second time when I was traveling through Europe with my mom. Yeah. And then after that, never spoke to me again. So that probably fucked with my psyche, you know? I grew up without a father as well. Okay. Differently.

Okay. Yeah. He took his life when I was six. So a little bit different, obviously. Yeah. Did that, do you think that affected all your relationships moving forward? Like in relationship, like to men, like your ability to trust or to believe or to? Mm-hmm.

I do. And it's only recently that I have come to terms with that. Because I think my mom overcompensated for me growing up without a father. Yeah. And would really ingrain it in my head. Sophia you don't you don't need a dad right like you have me you're fine it's not a big deal and so I internalize that and I would live my life thinking that way and then you know being in therapy my therapist is like no I think it like it definitely could have affected you and like

we don't we don't need to pretend like it's not a thing yeah you know it's definitely a thing yeah anyways I want to go back to the thing you were talking about love and like just knowing that someone is the one just because like you're like, oh, like I said, it just reminds me of the fairy tale. Like when you know, you just know and that's it. And there's no questions. I think love is work more than anything. I'm not saying that it's supposed to like be so tumultuous that it's just like every day's hard because that's obviously a problem. But I think it does require both people to really like compromise and understand and be able to because like you're not going to be the same person. Like if you fall in love with someone today. Right. Right. You're not

going to be the same person you are today in two years. Right. It's just not normal. Which is why I don't believe in like till death do us part. I really don't. Do you? I mean, I think it's more so believing in like the idea that it could be, right? But it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all, are the people willing to do the work over time.

I think it all, I think, I think that's the thing that people really fuck up is they just they, they, we've been fed like all these movies is Disney shit. You're fed this fairy tale like some princess and a prince. And it's supposed to be this amazing thing. And guys are supposed to be like this, girl's supposed to be like that. And it's kind of silly. And it's, it takes all the actual work out of it.

Like, as if like once they get it and they figure it out, like in these movies, it's like forever till, you know, till death do us part. Yeah. And I think it's very unrealistic

because it takes out the idea that as time goes on, as people grow, you continue to learn things about yourself, about the other person. And it's about being able and willing to adjust and assess and continue to go forward and grow. And I think if you can't do that,

yeah, of course it's not going to be. till death do us part yeah but that's such an interesting take like they write off into the sunset yeah and you're just like so then all of us see it as kids and we go that's that's that's what love is right and it's you know what Disney Disney you need to fucking get your shit together they fuck us they did they did a lot of fuck shit and I love those movies I love Madden fuck dude I love that okay but we need it in Aladdin part too yeah we need to know what's going on with that relationship now where like how is Jasmine feeling she probably cheated

on him 100% fuck man it's tough you know he like got hooked on some type of drug yeah for at least like two months yeah he's in and out of rehab yeah it's tough that's what we need to see we need to see that real shit we do though so shitty about our love lives yeah you know I feel it why do you think why do you think uh all that stuff exists in that way why do you think mainstream media is always kind of like this I don't know it seems like somewhat just so much of a facade like that we're supposed to live to this this standard or this to agree. I think because it's an escape, right? It's fantasy. It's what you want. Yo, but check this

out. This is so interesting. What you just said about being an escape and it being fantasy and it's what you want. I don't think that's true. I think and you're not wrong, but I think it's what they want you to think, what they want you to believe. And I'm not trying to be a conspiracy theorist, but if you relate it to why these types of content, why this type of content is becoming so much more popular and relevant and why people like the podcast stuff why they're like oh these two girls came and they did this and you doing it on your own as well where you're speaking from this like genuine like real place where it's not like this contrived bullshit about this fantasy world people like this i think 10 times more than they like that and that's why there's this massive

shift in like media where it's like people created media not like company orchestrated media we're like oh we're going to give you this narrative i think this is what people really want because really it's you know you talk about an escape i think you there's a there's a fake world and then there's this this world where an escape to someone nowadays feels like a girl listening to this podcast or a guy listening to the podcast and the words we're saying they'll be like oh shit that person i i feel what they're saying because i feel the same way right because it's real they can relate so their escape is into the real not into the facade right so the escape is not becoming, in my opinion, it's not the facade anymore. It's like the escape of someone's self

and like kind of pain within themselves in their life that they, you know, you look at a fairy toe and you go, wow, I wish my life was perfect. And now you have this negative relationship to like an escape versus a conversation between you and I. We talk about I've been dragged on the internet, you've been dragged on the internet. And then they go, someone else's been dragged in real life and they go, oh shit, I can relate to these person. That's my escape. Is what I'm saying? That is a fucking mind fuck. It's a little fuck. I, okay, so basically what you're saying is these fantasies and these like perfect worlds right that are portrayed in the media those I was saying they're an escape that's why we like them fantasy land but what you're saying is it's something we don't

have right so it ultimately you feel like shit exactly and so the true escape is in in like the realization that we're not alone in the way that we feel about our thoughts right because then because now you're escaping that that thought of that life's perfect My life's not. What the fuck's going on? And then they go, they shipped over to this kind of content here. And they go, oh, their life's not perfect. My life's not.

Yeah. I feel better. I wouldn't say it's an escape. Yeah. But I would say it's comforting. Comforting. That's what it is. But it's not like if you're, you know, getting off of benzos.

And you hear some. I just recently talked about this. That's why I brought it up. Okay. But, and you hear someone talking about it. It's not like you're like, it's an. escape, you know, from your reality. Yeah.

It's just a comfort that you feel. I mean, when I think of an escape, I think of comfort. Like most people try to escape because they're trying to find comfort. Like if someone takes drugs, they're trying to escape to feel comfortable about themselves, about someone's going on their life. Or if I go on a vacation, I'm trying to escape my work life because I want to feel comfort. So that's what I'm saying. The comfort is in the thing that's actually what they need to work on or what they can

identify in someone else working on it so they can be more comfortable working on it within themselves. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I'm a really weird. You're fucking deep. I mean, did you go to call it like philosophy?

Like, what are you doing? I'm a very weird person. Are you drinking? Are you reading like Fred Nietzsche? Like, what's up? No, I'm just a weird person. Very weird person. I'm just a weird person.

I'm super weird. Okay. These guys. No, but that was, that was deep as fuck. I was like, holy shit. I mean, I really have never thought about it that way. Yeah. So, okay, so that's, and I'm really happy you brought that up because I, my team will

sometimes get on my ass and be like, Sophia, you're, be a little more positive, you know. They think you're negative. They sometimes, because I'm very self-deprecating. Yeah. And I'm also just very real. And I can talk about very dark things and it doesn't mean I'm unhappy and it doesn't feel like a negative to me. Yeah.

But to a lot of people it does. And so they have to check me sometimes. Do you feel like, do you feel like they're right sometimes? Yeah. So then are you dark? I mean, they're all getting fired. You what? No, I need to stop making that joke because they get fucking pissed.

Slew Media team, Delaney, Kiana, Alex, I love you. It's called Sleut Media. Slu, which is a play. Oh, wait. So wait. Oh, God. That's funny. It's a play on the word slut.

Yeah, I get it. Obviously. Yeah. But my podcast is called Sophia. If you want to hear me talk about sex. Yeah. Let's talk about some of that. Let's shift topics a little bit.

I don't like fucking take you down a portal fucking Alice in Wonderland. I feel like I just like took a hit of something. No, it's dope. Do you take mushrooms or any drugs or anything like that? Defined drugs. Medicine, plant medicine, like pharmaceuticals. So I do. What do you like the most?

I like mushrooms, if I'm being honest. So I had a very bad experience with marijuana. Oh, yeah, me too. Really? Many. Really? Many. So you can smoke weed.

So I can smoke. I'm very sensitive to everything. I'm sensitive to caffeine. I'm sensitive to everything that I take, right? My body's very sensitive. So I'll smoke weed. If I smoke like one hit, like literally like I'm good. If I do a little too much, I'm fucking like, yo, am I good?

Like, am I going to have a heart attack? Like what's going on? I don't feel like. okay. I feel like too much. I feel way too much. Yeah. If I take one hit, I am walking my ass to New York Presbyterian Hospital. Yeah, exactly. And I've done that many times when I first started smoking. I think I went to the ER like four nights in a row at one point. This is one of my early 20s. Why didn't you like, you know, the first two nights being in the ER, did you ever think, you know, maybe I shouldn't smoke weed. Yeah, of course. And then I was like, nah, I'm going to power through

it. I could do it. And then I couldn't do it. You're like, I'm not a quitter. Exactly. I'm a fucking quitter. But no, seriously, it was like, it was, I would go. I remember this, the third night I went in there. It was the same people because it was around the same time. This girl was like, yo, just stop smoking weed. It was so funny because like, I don't think they're supposed to say shit like that. Right.

Because like I'm like, are you sure I'm good? Like to put the EKG and shit on me to check my heart. And it's like the same thing every time. Yeah. They were like giving me out of end. They're like, chill out, you fucking anxious fucker. It helps you sleep and it's like an anxiety med. And highly addicted by.

the way I don't recommend that but um she I remember the third night she's like she's like have you ever thought of just like not doing it I was like yeah definitely after this time and then I did it the next night I saw shut the fuck up there's no way I swear to god and then and then after that I stopped for a few months and then I like dabble with it why because they like wouldn't take you anymore no they'd always take you they'd always take you they can't not take you but um I don't know man I just I think it was four I was like Like, okay, four is my number. I'm like, I can't go to the ER anymore.

Because then you get these bills and shit. I was like, I didn't have money like that. Yeah. I mean, I would think that after the first time, but. I told you, not a quitter. Yeah, not a quitter. It's actually, yeah, that's like really admirable. And what about edibles?

Those are. THC makes me fucking freak the fuck out. Yeah. Freak out. And I've done like some heavy drugs, you know? Like what else? I smoked crack. You smoked actual.

God damn it. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is getting crazy. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I've done, hold on. I've done like fucking four podcasts in the last month. And everyone has talked about smoking crack.

I swear to God, but joking. You got to try cracking out. Bro, this is insane. I talked to Ait Street about smoking crack. And he was like, oh, it's a racist drug and all this shit. And then I was talking to Zias about he joked about smoking crack. And, dude, have you actually smoked crack? So I'm not special is what you're saying.

No, you're very. special. I'm just saying like, did you actually smoke crack? Yes. Holy shit. Like how do you, so this is the thing. I was talking to Steve about it. I don't. If you, if you, uh, look at me, it doesn't seem like maybe I have, but I have. But it's also like, I believe you. It's just like, how are you ever like, I'm going to smoke crack today? Like, how did that? Were you like, today is the day I'm smoking crack? No. It didn't start like that. Um, and how many times have you done this? One time. Okay. So how did that? It was a one and done. So are you like, hey, there's some crack if you want to smoke. it and you're like fuck it no no no no that is not how how it went down okay so i was doing i was

smoking oxy cotton and doing cocaine in high school okay solid is that not is that not the norm i don't know man i never did that i'm telling you i smoke weed that was it no no weed is fucking crazy weed and we drank alcohol who smoke weed are wild i would never touch that shit I'm telling you I'm smoking crack I'm telling you crack is way more mild than weed

okay by the way we're not recommending anyone smoke crack FYI Jesus Christ also I would just like to disclaimer well actually I just want to address when I said

if you look at me it doesn't seem like I smoke crack that could come off very no no no that could come off very inappropriate and not politically correct fuck that

dude valley girl voice i'm here sitting in a fucking little sports bra everyone knows crack tends to be uh like in impoverished places that's what hry was saying i don't know i don't know shit i don't know shit about that i just know that h3 said it was a racist drug but i don't know yes well i'm not being racist i'm not a crack expert you're not being racist at all i don't think that at all i just wanted to clarify i just think it was funny i wouldn't be like yo you're smoking anyone to be honest is my that's why i'm curious about how did this happen is like i don't think anyone just like, I'm smoking crack today. Right. I don't think of that anyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, how do you get to smoking crack? My mom is so proud right now listening to this. This is dope.

I, uh, I'm not a crack expert. So this is just me talking from my personal experience. Okay. It was a one and done deal. I was smoking oxies and doing cocaine in high school. Give us, give us the set and setting. So you're smoking oxies and you're in high school and you're doing cocaine. yeah you're smoking oxy out of like a crack pipe no no you so you have to take the kind of the it's not the wrapper but like the outside of the oxycon pill right and once you take that off you put it on aluminum foil put the lighter underneath and smoke it with a straw so you're lighting it and you're going yeah yeah okay well you have your friends do it for you okay wow dude and it's just melting and you're pulling the vapors and then you you uh just like follow the smoke holy

fuck and what do you feel from that you're just like whoa i'm fucking calm no um see i don't really like painkillers i only did that for a few months by the way okay it was just like a it was like a everyday thing you did that every day not every day but definitely a few times a week with actually you know who i was i love how it went from every day to a few times a week that was cool That was really cool. That's lit. No, it wasn't every single day. Okay.

I couldn't afford that. I was in fucking high school. I was like a barista. Uh-huh. Which I actually sold Coke out of the fucking drive-thru window, by the way. Respect. Commendable. Commendable.

But the oxy cotton, I just felt really high. But described like the high is like what high? You're just like, I feel calm. I feel really good. It feels good, euphoric. Okay. And your body, like, feels good, right? And then you're like, this isn't enough?

I need crack. No, that is actually not what happened. Okay. All right. I went to go do some Coke with my friend. And she had been dating a drug dealer. This is great. And I'm not a drug dealer, by the way.

Not one. And I go up to the apartment. She's staying in. And she tells. me basically I was tricked into doing crack mm I didn't know it was crack right interesting so she tells me you know what's gonna make this coke feel even better is if we smoke it damn this is like training day that's sick he's like hit this shit right yeah and I was like I mean sign me the

fuck up it's the coke is gonna be better like let's let's do it let's smoke it so you didn't know what it was and you know okay But then, you know, she did say some shit, like, oh, like a little baking soda. Like, I'm just going to do like a couple things here. But in my mind, it was just Coke, but in a different form. Oh, okay. Yeah. Then, you know, when I got older, I realized that.

Well, no, I realized once I smoked it that that was not cocaine. That's when I realized. So what do you feel from that? Because this is something I was asking. I was talking to Steve about it. And we were like, what is it? Because the difference of cocaine, you're like, oh, I'm a. Which I've done once and I'm definitely not a fan because I'm too it's too too much too much like up for me. Yeah.

What is the crack cocaine like? What is the crack cocaine like because that's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Are you like, are you like, well, I'm really calm. I'm really wired. Calm. You're wired. No, actually after I smoked it, my friend suggested that we smoke heroin, which I did not know she was doing it. What the fuck? Yeah, she was like, you need to, you need to calm down. Like, you should smoke this. And I was smart enough to say no to that one. Oh my God. So I had to get myself a pat on the back for that one.

Mm-hmm. Whoa. Yo, how old were you? Oh, my God. Probably like 17. 17. Were you not hanging out with people like that? No, I was hanging out with like little fucking gangsters.

And their family were like gangsters and shit. So they weren't doing, they were just more doing like. illegal shit that wasn't drugs like stealing yeah like robbing people at gunpoint oh okay yeah more of that and i'm from i'm from san francisco got it got it so yeah well utah's very they like their drugs there because there's nothing to fucking do except anal and drugs ain'tal and drugs fucking dope i really give utah the worst rep ever no but i feel like it's not even you i feel like everyone knows that about utah not that i could have bad place. I mean, those two great things. I mean, essentially. It's true. It's not like they're

terrible. So okay now. So now it is actually gorgeous. One of my like favorite places like especially like when it's kind of snowy. But do you do drugs now? Any kind of like recreationally? Um, I did up until very recently. Now I'm just I'm not interested really. Like it's not the same. You know? Yeah. Like I would and I was never heavy like a heavy drug. user. I was a party girl, you know? But now, no. Like, if there was coke at a party, now, no. Yeah. Benet and all, terrifying. Oh, well, that's killing everyone. I know. But that's actually not even, you know, the biggest reason, which it fucking should be. It's just, A, Coke is not Coke anymore. Like, when's the last time you, well, I can't ask you, I guess. You can ask me anything.

Well, I mean, you don't, when's the last time you ever tried it? Oh, yeah. did it forever yeah 10 years ago it's like it's baking soda right for the most part yeah yeah i mean i guess unless you know you're very well connected right yeah but it's just getting high like that is not for me anymore even molly just any of that shit it's just it's not what about like have you ever done um obviously you've done mushrooms before i've done liquid so that's the thing is i am terrified of them because of my reaction to weed. Got it. But I want to not be.

Yeah. You ever tried microdosing or heard of that? Yes. I've heard of it. I've never tried it. That would help. That would be like, it'll change it because that you don't feel it.

I'm not trying to like tell people to go take. Actually, you know what fuck it. I think it's actually a really good thing. I think like a true microdose, not like taking mushrooms every day because then you're just getting high every day. I'm talking about a true microdose.

You do not feel anything. Like all you'll feel is like this maybe general sense of like, huh, maybe life's a little bit better. Like you just a little more open. Yeah. But you're not going to be like, well, I'm high and my hands fucking look weird and you look different. Yeah. So like a true micro dose you take for like a month and then stop for like two months. And it's like you actually take it in like a therapeutic manner. There's massive benefits. So have you done it? Yes. Yes. I would love to know like what the benefits are. Yeah. Well, I mean overall like I'd say even my relationship to my anxiety as a whole, you know,

Even in relationship to marijuana and the things that have always exacerbated it the most, I find myself not getting to that point, like not even close to how I used to, like whether I'm smoking or not smoking. Because I would get to that point, anxious, anxiety-wise, like, just about life and the amount of things that I have to do, the amount of, like, you know, things that I have to work on or, like, the expectations from people. And I just, every once in a while, I'd be like, you know, it's almost like I'd get, like, migraines or I get these physical relations, like things that are happening to. me in relationship to all the stuff that I'm stressing about and that overall is like imagine if

it was it just less it just happens less so it helps majorly with massively massively and and also um I feel just even speaking in just mental capacity your ability to just learn and to understand is heightened for sure wow do you feel more creative uh I guess I guess I guess the days that I was actually microdose and I'd say maybe more creative but overall it's just like you just feel like you can process things more efficiently so if you are already creative

then you'd be more efficient at creating so it's like Adderall I wouldn't say it's like I've taken Adderall and Adderall is a little more like it's aggressive where I'm like oh I'm fucking I'm kind of slightly wired this is very it's much calmer but do you get kind of

does it have like some similarities in terms of like efficiency yeah I would say I would say but it's it's you know a thousand times better for you like actually like neuro like generative like it's making your brain more efficient versus like Adderall is not doing that for you it's like in the moment it is but when you're off you're like I'm fucking tired like you don't you're not off of mushrooms and like oh I'm fucking tired right it doesn't have that same effect so there's a ton of therapeutic benefits to it how long does it take to see the benefits I would say if you microdose for like a month you'd notice you notice

a difference for sure and then also there's benefit to to like macro dosing and like not not every day obviously that's completely don't do that but there there are a lot of benefits because it I just is the plant medicine and that is just to take you deeper into yourself yeah right which I fully believe in I'm just scared yeah no that's and that's and you should be and it's not it's not it for everyone thing it's like you got to do it when you're ready to do it when you feel like okay it's the moment to do it like have you ever heard of Iowa I've done that recently recently okay yeah like four months ago yeah you turned into like the nicest guy ever for like a week yeah yeah for a week right yeah you need to do like a touch

up like you need to go back yeah no no I'm going to I want to I want to take a massive amount no I plan to go to like Costa Rica or Peru or somewhere and like do it for like a few days like really really get some stuff out of it yeah I had some friends recently do a 12 day I was in Bali. And I don't know if I would suggest that one. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely not a like for everyone thing all the time. Yeah. But I really believe in it.

Yeah. No, I know it's fucking, it's different. Like as far as, and I've talked about this on the pod before, but as far as like your ability to connect with yourself on a very like completely transparent, non-ego related scale where you're just like, this is who I am. And these are the things I really want to change. it's so crystal clear like you can't you're not you can't convolut like oh i want to change this but like these other things and i feel this way about this and my relationship to that it has to be like this because of this like you know how we do that in life it's just like this is it this is me it's like are you willing to do the work or not wow just complete clarity yeah it's beautiful

so i need to go do it you would fucking love it and it's supposed to be scary it's not you're not supposed to be like you should be kind of afraid of it well and that's what i like because i'm assuming you did it with a shaman and a controlled setting, right? Completely, yeah. And they're like taking care of you. 100%. It's not, I didn't just go really fucking do it in my backyard with by myself.

I did it with, you know, with people that were like guiding me through it. And this is very important, the container in which you do it and your intention into it. It's not supposed to be like, show up and fucking take drugs. Exactly.

I definitely want to do it. And that makes me feel better about it. Because I think with mushrooms, I mean, I have never heard of, uh, mushroom ceremony personally there are there are though yeah there are yeah same similar similar style not as obviously that you know I mean I can't say it's not as intense because it's just

different medicine but there are people that do that as well you just got to find the right kind of like circles that do it but I feel like ayahuasca is going to be more oh it's way more beneficial yeah I wouldn't say more beneficial I would say there's it's just like a level like if you hadn't done like mushrooms at that dose I would say like it'd be a stepping stone to like ayahuasca like learning through here i want to just jump right to the to the crack yeah you should do straight up like i think that's what i have to do you would it would fucking it would change your life i think you have not that your life is bad because i think you have from what i perceive it's a great life well yeah you know people just get all fucking you know i can't believe you said that um which which

brings me to let's start talking about a little bit um men and women and dating and sex and all this stuff right what do you think are the five most important things for a man to to do or have in order to get a woman like what do you think like as a man get her as in fuck her okay let's go there first fuck her okay but then like but then so there's going to be 10 things right so five and five okay so to fuck her like can I get a pen and paper well just you know I mean we can just go through it slowly but it's like let's say five things three things whatever. I just want to put like a number on it, but I guess, I can handle that.

Top five things that you think it takes a guy to have in order to bang a girl. Fuck a girl. Yeah. Yeah. Confidence. Okay. I mean, that you could throw the other four away, honestly. Really? A hundred percent. Just be like, I got this. You could be ugly.

You could have no money. No. Yes, I swear to God. Not these girls this day. This Tuesdays? No. I'm telling you. No. I am telling you. I have. I personally have hooked up with some fucking bridge trolls, right? You say bridge trolls? Bridge trolls.

Nice. That are living underneath the fucking highway pass. Holy fuck. Because of the way they carry themselves. Because of the crack. This is making sense. Because I was fucking smoking. This is lit.

I love it. Sorry. No. No. It was not crack related. Okay. By the way. And I'm not a crackhead, by the way.

It was a one-time thing. Yeah, no. You were young, you were experimenting. I'm sorry. It's just funny. No, it's fucking hilarious. That bridge troll, you lobbed it up. I was like, fuck.

I got to do. Yeah. I set that one up. But if you carry yourself in a certain way, you will get pussy. Okay. What? Okay. I totally understand.

But what does that mean, right? I can understand because I can think, okay, I can think of what places I've been confident or not where I'm more confident where I'm less confident. Mm-hmm. To you, though, a guy's going to hear us and be like, the fuck does she even mean, though? What does confidence? mean to you then like a guy shows confidence how yeah like he just shows you and he's like

you're mine bitch like what what's confidence like some steiny shit no okay okay love you stearney that was a joke um wasn't but yeah i i would say someone who commands a room right has a presence to him and genuinely is happy with himself and where he's at and just everything in his life. That's what it is. And you know that just through. You can, it's an energy, right? Yeah.

And, you know, you go to dinner and it's just, it's, it's, it's an energy. Like, that's the only way to really explain it. Yeah. How would you explain it? If a girl has confidence, what is she doing? Yeah, I see what you're saying. I see like. She's not dressed like a hoe like me right now.

Well, I mean, you're not. really dressed like a hoe. No, actually, this is confidence, right? Yeah, it could be. You're like, I'm in here. I'm fucking, I just hit the gym. I'm ready. Yeah, I think it's different.

I don't know. It's interesting. Like, yeah, not dressed like a hoe is actually, I'm not saying that's a cornerstone to this, but a woman that like, you know, she could be beautiful, look beautiful, have a great body, but I feel like I need to show it off all the time. There's confidence in that. Just like there could be confidence in showing it off, right? But it really just depends.

is it like, is it you always need to show it off? Right. Then it's also like now you're kind of reaching. Right. And it's not really so much confidence. It's more like, oh, I need validation because I want people to come approach me because of the way I look. Yeah.

So it's like a road. It's, it really depends on that circumstance. Yeah. So yeah, there is confidence in like, you know, I don't need all this extra shit to, you know, maybe they don't need tons of makeup or there's confidence in like the natural beauty that they have and the way that they, because I like natural beauty a lot. Right. You do.

So you don't like the. filler I hate all that shit lip injection fake butts all that I don't like any of that I mean just personally it's not my thing

yeah I understand why women do it because they maybe have this pressure where they feel like they need to have more this or more that right I've just I don't know I feel like I've always kind of joked with my friends I'm like if you could push her into a pool she comes out she doesn't look like crazy

you know for me it's like that's the one you know so is that what you do on first day I push them straight into pools I'm like yeah let's go anywhere there's a pool I would fuck you up yeah I don't know if you would fuck me up You might try, but I don't know if you could. It could be really hard.

I definitely could not. No, I couldn't. Does a fake ass feel different? And then we'll get back to me, but I need to know this. A hundred percent different. It's hard. I don't know because obviously there's tons of different types of things now that they do. Implant, injection, different injections.

Like moving fat. Like, yeah, implants are like whatever. But yeah, I have had experiences where it's just kind of, it's tough. It's like it's harder. Yeah. You know, it's not like muscle heart and it's not like fat hard, obviously. It's like this different. It just feels not like that.

Like this. Similar to the couch. Interesting. Right? Yeah. Wait a sec. Wait, this is a BBL right here. Holy shit.

No, actually, it is kind of like that, but with skin over it. You're getting turned on though. No, no. It's not my thing. It's not my thing. I don't like it. I just don't, I just feel like. That's totally fine.

Yeah. You feel like you have to like back up. like back it up it's fine no no i don't yeah fuck that i just don't like it straight up i like i just i like more natural but now i do i do like fake boobs though does that make me like a hypocrite in this sense well i mean yeah you just contradicted everything you just said damn i don't know i don't i feel like a natural butt natural beauty i i hate the fake shit love some fake well i don't love i don't love i don't love not saying i love them i'm just saying like If you know you just said I like I like I said love like like I said like I don't know we're

I have to run it back you know I said I didn't say love I said like no it's like because this is and I'll tell you why okay I'm very excited for this fuck well now it's like damn I realize anyways listen you can work on your butt you can you can you can grow your butt okay you can't you can't grow your tits it's not like but then I guess you could just say well you can't grow your lips right right but that's just a I don't know it's different to me I feel like it's a difference if it's on the face it's like work this is obviously yeah it's work done as well but you can't like she can't do a bunch of bench press and like get her tits bigger first like she can work on her butt this is my thing I think it also comes down to like someone's work ethic overall I was about to say like you it's not even necessarily the look maybe per se it's both yeah does this girl like is she willing to fucking work yeah because like you know you some girls who get like like butt stuff And, like, they don't train. It's like, you're just, it looks weird visually, but then it's also like. Like a wisdom too.

You just did it. Yeah, you just, you, I don't want to say you copped out, but you're like, obviously you wanted to look a certain way, but it's like you could have achieved something more than what you had, but you just kind of was like, I'm assuming this fast track thing. And like, I understand like this mentality. But at the same time, I think to me as a person is like, you just, you didn't want to put in that work that it would have required to get that. Not that you, everyone could have this crazy fucking ass or whatever they're trying to

achieve, but you can't have more than. what you have now and I think a lot of people just take the fast way and it's just like I see it I'm just like but versus the boobs is like she can't bench press her tits you know she can't get she can't grow her pecks okay so do you prefer fake boobs I don't prefer no no but you don't care I think I think like if I was like judging it'd be like a girl because I'm more of an ass guy like the girl could have like I could be completely flat chested right I feel like a lot of guys this day and age it's about the ass yeah yeah but like like I wouldn't do the reverse if it was like no ass and like fake boobs I don't know that's kind of just weird but this is just

my opinion um at the same time like it's just girls are fucking probably want to shoot you right now yeah I don't know I think it's great no I mean I love to hear a dude be honest right yes it's the truth I love it because guys are scared so continue so I would it's just saying if I was picking just if I was like what I would look like if I was a hundred girls I'm thinking girl with the nice butt the flat chest amazing I okay versus the other way it's like I'd rather you know pick the first one we're not fucking around with the pancake ass I mean it's don't you don't have to have this crazy I'm not saying like you have this crazy fat ass like this and that's the thing to girls too I think girls have this like weird weird perception of like what a what like a nice ass is where

they just has to be this of course yeah and like it has to be this crazy thing but it doesn't doesn't like like even girls that I know that have really nice butts feel like oh my butt's not nice enough and it's like you're fucking crazy like there's this like degree of like it has to it doesn't have to be this outrageous shit right like you don't have to you don't have to set a cup on it no no it's like just shape everyone's you know they have everything's everyone's got nice different things like there's different things like there's different things that like stand out like this shape doesn't have to be crazy like it's weird that's actually very refreshing to Yeah. Because I think I even like get into that mentality. No, because like, damn, the ass. I don't know. It's like, it's good, but it's not the ass, right? That everyone wants. And it's like, there's no the ass. No, fuck no. It doesn't exist. No way. And it's not bigger. Just because it's big doesn't make it nice. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like there's also like just the shape of certain. I mean, am I wrong here? You're right, man. It's got to have a certain shape. Yeah. It's like it could be big, but it could be smaller, have a nice shape. It doesn't. If it's too big, it's too big. It's, it's too big. It's. It's too big.

it's like the shapes weird it's just like I mean listen I'm not sitting here saying I'm perfect I have perfect everything that's not true I'm just I'm definitely sharing this opinion though and I think a lot of guys relate to this one where it's like I don't know it's like when you have it it's but I think for girls I'm what I'm trying to say is don't get so caught up and like just having a bigger butt like that's not what's necessary that's what I was going back to like you started training putting a little bit more effort and energy into like growing the muscle that you do have the shape of your butt is going to look nicer right just from that alone right and at the same time fuck the way you look like you're going to get so much more out of training for your like mental

health and your health in general that like you might as well make that a thing that you enjoy 100% I've only recently in the past year or two really taken my fitness serious yeah well for any reason for any certain reason um because you're 30 and you're like fuck I got to figure this out honestly I think that factored into it that's fair yeah for sure and I think to look better to look hotter right? and for the mental, all three. Yeah. And it's been life-changing.

So what- For my butt, specifically? That's amazing. Yes. Damn. Right, Elle? Looks good. She goes, looks good.

Okay, so what, let's get on the other topic for the reverse. For girls, what do girls do you think? And what's your perspective on this? Mostly look at in men like physically. For men, they're like, yo, you got to work on this, you know? Yeah. So funny how different it is. Yeah.

Like, guys can go on and on. like the butt the butt just like a pear shape and like you know like a dim like it's fucking crazy um looks wise i know for the majority of women height is the number one thing i care way more about face way more i need a good looking face and i'm really into like the tall dark and handsome i just contradicted myself but damn just a good height dark hair dark features. Okay. Dude, I love, it's so funny when girls do that and then he just, like, you contradicting

yourself is so hilarious to me. Wait, why? It's just so funny, man. That's like the classic, like, you know, I talked earlier about this whole red pill, blue pill thing. It's like guys talking about how girls don't know what they want and all this shit. And I just explained it perfectly. But because you're asking me specifically, but I was about to say his personality trumps

everything. Yeah. And I mean that. I'm not just saying that. I swear to God. Yeah. I mean, okay. Trump's everything.

If we're talking about, you know, like a bridge troll once again. Okay. Maybe we're going to have some problems. But if he's not the best looking guy and he has the personality, I'm down. That's like what I find attractive. Yeah. Is a personality. You know?

Yeah. Can you make me laugh? Yeah. Is he interesting? Yeah. Like, am I bored? No? Okay, great.

Yeah. What do you think makes someone interesting? Like their ability to conversate about topics that you find interesting? Um, no. Not necessarily. I mean, my ex was, I'm not saying I'm not intelligent. I am an intelligent woman, but he went to Harvard. He was on a different level.

Yeah. He would talk about shit that I'd be like, what the fuck are you talking? about like what i'm curious like what were the things you'd be like wow he majored in greek philosophy at harvard like he would quote you know like aristotle you know you know he was a fucking genius boys listen so all you need to do is go read some aristotle some socrates rememberize some of those quotes and just be like oh have you ever thought of this and be like yeah it's just something socrates says like no big deal like that's funny that's really funny to me. That is funny. So you really could say fucking anything and say, yeah, that was

uh, Socrates by the way. The girl's like, wow. Yeah. He's so smart. Yeah. Damn. I would have no idea. You wouldn't either. You would not. I read shit like that. Huh? I didn't go to school. I mean, I went to school. I dropped out, you know, but I read a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I try to understand. Okay. But if I, if I, if I said some crazy shit right now and I said, you know, Aristotle said that, you would not come at me and say actually no, he didn't. Who knows? I mean, it depends what you said, if I knew it or not. I'd be like, wait a minute. No.

No, no, no. Don't pretend right now. There's no, no. You say I don't know any Greek mythology or any sort of like philosophy? I'm just saying if I, you know, phrase something in a certain way, you would not be, you would not come back. Okay, you know what? For the majority of people, they're not going to know if Aristotle actually said something. Yeah.

So men, there you go. There's a tip for you. say it fucking say whatever the fuck you want within reason just be like yeah we're meant to be together it's crazy he basically said it it's in the stars wow they're gonna be like oh my god you're amazing wait that's actually a really good tip for men what which part not lie to girls 100% on the first date yes do you really think that yeah fuck man lie about what i mean i wouldn't say lie but i think you should go into a date with a quote in mind from someone very influential and make sure to just fucking

plug it into the conversation at some point that is hilarious I mean that's great I would be impressed I would eat that shit up and I would believe it I'd like damn this guy he reads you know it's fun it's funny but then it's like what two dates in you're like he's not doing anyone you're like no no no this guy stupid no because girls want a relationship so bad and if they decide to go on the date they want it to work so bad do you really think that yeah you think even nowadays yes what about girls on social media you don't think they're just trying to get get the clout trying to just level up you think they're trying to have relationships yeah I think that they're a little bit jaded you know yeah

they're maybe more superficial right yeah like um they're more interested in like can i get a fucking picture in Dubai this weekend crazy but then once you're kind of in that world you start dealing with dudes that are fucking assholes like the worst of the worst right yeah they're taking shits on your chest you're talking about over there in fucking Dubai yeah yeah that was obviously a fucking extreme but just guys that are you know I mean, I've heard a shit like that, actually. No, I know. I have to.

But I'm not talking about that world. You've never been a part of that, though, yeah? No, I have not. Just had to ask. No, but I don't shame it. I mean, if you're getting paid and that's, you know. Fuck. Get your money.

Damn. I'm like, I would maybe rather do that than have to fuck the guy for money. That's interesting. What would you rather? I'd real shit on you. I just feel like that. power dynamic would never exist where a girl be like I need a shit on you just to I'll pay you though this only happens for women this is insane that a woman could just fucking I know she could have literally

nothing but a little bit of followers get DM'd and her whole life be changed by like someone who wants a shit on her chest right that doesn't happen from it which I mean it's kind of a magical great thing right it's yeah I mean it could be life changing yeah it's interesting for sure It's definitely Some new world shit It's weird I mean get your money Period

That's the way I think But back to my point Even though even like fuck your morals sometimes I mean it's a It's just a personal thing Yeah Would I I mean maybe if I was under the

You know if I was living in a tent Smoking Crack I would probably be down Yeah You said you're circumstantial Yeah Fly my ass to Dubai. I'm ready to go.

Get shit on. Yeah. Get 100 racks. Shit on me wherever. Damn. That's wild. Tell me right now if you were homeless. Okay.

Okay. And someone offered you, you know, 100K. Okay. But they just had to shit on your chest and on your face. Ooh, my face? Oh, no, eat it. I think the first two. You would turn that down.

I think I turned down when I was, I was broke. I turned down fucking some guy's wife for $8,000 and I absolutely needed that money. I was a trainer and I was like not not. I was like, why? I told the story before, but the reason was because once I was going towards it and then once I met the wife, I was like, you could tell this is the thing that they do often. Yeah, yeah. And then I met like the kids. And then I was like, oh, this is just like I could tell this woman has done this many times and is not happy about being a. part of this. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it was like, I met him and then he's like talking to me. And then I met her and I was like, oh, this is like a thing they do. And I just felt weird. Yeah, she wasn't like, oh, it's not like I'm happy. I felt like she was like, this is what my husband wants me to do. And it's kind of fucking weird. And he probably jerks off in the corner and watches. Right. Which fucking whatever. That's your thing. But I think when I met her and I like just a look in her face and the energy was like, I don't want to be a part of this. I totally understand that.

So yeah, I needed that money. Now, now if he said $100,000. I would have fucked his wife. Okay, what if he said 8,000? You don't have to fuck his wife. You just have to get shit on. I don't know. I don't think so. I don't know.

But it's, yeah. You can jump in the shower. Like, what is it a deal? Yeah. I don't know. Something just super degrading about getting shitted on. It's just like literally getting shitted on. You're not talking about like shitting on someone like verbally.

It's like that person is shit on you. I don't know. Unless I was like maybe weirdly if I was like kind of into it, And who gives a fuck? How much money would it take you to? How much money? This is like, this is like this, I love this question. The guy like, would you suck someone's dick for?

Yeah. 100 mil. It was 100 million. And how much was it? 100 mil. 100%. That is the dumbest question. A hundred million?

I would suck two dicks for 100 million. I don't give a fuck. Bro, what? You don't act like you're fucking special, bro. It would take 100 million dollars. That was the question. So the question was just like, would you suck a dick for a hundred million dollars to a guy, obviously. Okay.

Would you do it for one million? No way. Fuck no. I don't need money like that. What about 10? Nope. I'm not. I don't.

Close your eyes. So that's the thing, right? It's not just the, you know, you know, we were talking earlier about your relationship and and not working out and like the trauma from the drama. Uh-huh. There's trauma in that. And like, unless it's what you want to do and you enjoy it, whatever, right? Yeah.

But knowing that you're sucking addicted, maybe you're not really wanting to suck just because there's trauma that's related to that. Okay, but what if you're broke? That's trauma in itself. True, true. There's trauma there. But there's also like, that's the thing, right? We talk about get to a point sooner, which is like, it's so funny because guys don't necessarily have this.

I mean, unless you're like, there's some gay, super rich gay guy who is like wanting to pay you to whatever. It's very rare that guys have that ability to just like jump that giant gap. Yeah. It's a lot easier for girls, right? Yeah, yeah. So it's like, I don't know. I feel like at the same time I'd rather have worked. for something and feel good about getting there than just like getting there because like

I had this fast way in now you say 100 million I don't give a fuck like you're putting a dick in your mouth whatever dude who cares yeah but 10 million I can get yeah would you rather suck a dick or get shit on oh get shit on yeah yeah easily okay it's they're both weird as fuck I don't want to do either but like no sucking dick isn't weird well for for me it's a little different it's a little it's not yes yes for me it's a little different Getting shit on is like, it's, I'd say if like sucking dick was a 10, getting shit on is like a four. Yeah. But I mean, there's, people are into it.

People are into getting shit on. 100%. I just don't. It wasn't it impede on you. I saw something recently about this. I'm like, did he peeing on some chick or some shit? I don't know. Whatever.

But I don't know. Like, why would someone be into that? I don't know. But actually this guy that I was talking to, he, he, him and his ex-girlfriend, he, he, he, he, peed in her mouth and I think he peed also all over her body that one's less weird than shit I'll be honest yes less weird but he told me he wasn't into it he just like wanted to try it he was like then I you know it's really fucked up he was like I was so grossed out by her after oh yeah so I'm saying the trauma thing and I'm like what the fuck is wrong with you like he was like I can't

look at her the same yeah pissed on her yes after you know being the one to like let's try this yeah did they are they still together no absolutely not dude absolutely not i don't know i think the piss is so much more like getting like shitting on or getting shitted on it's like it's just i think the act of the excretion is just so like so much yeah like the positioning even i'm picturing like someone's got like it's like a pissing is like pee you know no but pee would be way bigger of a mess like yeah but it's like wet jumping the shower this is like physical shit but the pee could like get in your mouth yeah but the shit can like just stick on you and like roll and then you

like jump in the like and then it's also like there's so many versions of shit where it's like who knows that day like is it like a solid shit or a messy shit yeah well thank god we don't have to worry about that yes but I would get shit on if I was broke fair fair fair I think that's fair Holy shit, dude. How did we even get here? No idea, man. I have no clue. Yeah.

This is the beauty of this shit, man. I love doing podcast stuff. So let's get back on track. So we're going to talk about dating a little bit more. What's the weirdest date you've ever been on? I was recently asked this question. Oh my God. This is so good.

I completely forgot about this. So this dude invited me to watch not the Lakers what's the basketball team in New York the Nets the Nets oh that's Brooklyn yeah I don't know whatever

it was a fucking a basketball team and he said that we would be sitting court side so I needed to dress nice okay that's what you texted me the Knicks also it was the Knicks that's what it was

so he told me that we get there we're in the 6th row which that is not me complaining and being like, you know. So he took so 100% explicitly said, we're going to be court side. I have the text.

Got it. And he's like, you might be on camera like. Oh, he went. So, whoa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Court side, you might be on camera. Dress up. So you're ready.

Yeah. I wore heels. Okay. So that's a big deal, you know, to go to a fucking basketball game. And I'm like running through New York, whatever. So then we were in the sixth row. Okay. So that already was like, what the fuck.

did you address that when that no oh you didn't even say like yeah what what no i think because i'm not if you can't tell a super big sports girl i like soccer but that's about it yeah yeah um i think i was kind of thinking i had like i mean is this like kind of considered court side because if you watch ufc if you're in the third row what is that it's kind of that's pretty much ring side yeah you're in the third row depending because there's sections like outside of the box that goes up third row right that's not ringside but if you're in there's a there's like I want to say like eight eight rows like stacked around actual ringside right and you can still you call it ringside yes for sure so I think I was thinking down in my head okay but I but deep down

I knew something was off see girls just hoping like no he wouldn't do this shit to me like no no he's not that type and then we went to get a hot dog and I had the biggest zit of my entire life and I wanted to cry I almost actually went on the date with a bandaid and I was like that's that's worse right at that point I don't know but where with the band day where was this it it was right here okay if it was like here you could have had like the Nelly look but like down here it's kind of like you know what it probably yeah but it wasn't even that bad of a Zit it was my anxiety and me attacking it before it's always that way yeah always so we go to get a hot dog and he's like oh my god he looks so cute

I want like let me take a picture like you know he tells me to put the hot dog in front of my Zit shut the fuck up yo that shit's dope that guy's a savage he's like holy whoa whoa whoa whoa you need to put the hot dog in front of the Zit

because that that ain't happening like did he take one first and he was like wait a sec can you just move yes oh my god dude and I was this guy like a photographer was he like an Instagram guy like he knew something about like aesthetics is clearly let me just say his screen name on Instagram has the word daddy in it what and it's a grown man what is a grown man grown man

and he has daddy in his screen name yes and I think he was like at least 10 years older than me daddy was his username on Instagram it was daddy something wow that's I'm not going to give like when did he make that no of course not when did he make that account I have no I have no idea. Like it had to be 10 years ago, so he was 30 when he put Daddy as his screen name. Yeah. Yeah. At least.

That's fucking, that is embarrassing. Biggest red flag. You fucked up from the beginning. I did. Did he slide? Is that how you found him, how he found you? No, I went to a random bar in New York, and he was a manager and just like started hitting on me right away.

And I was not interested. Yeah. And then I don't know if I asked him for blow. I sound like I'm a full-blown drug addict, by the way. I'm not. This was like, this was like five, six years ago. Yeah. I don't know if I asked him for, I probably did.

Because I was, to be honest, to be honest, I was, I was out of control, like really for real. That's fair. I've been arrested three times. Can you hold your mic just a little bit? Yeah, yeah. Right here. Is this good? Should I pull my tits out?

You could. Definitely. You could, but we'd probably. Probably get. No, I just had cleavage, guys, okay? Yeah, just like maybe. There we go. I did.

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entire order uh support your boy let's get back into this podcast so hold on real quick before you get in the rest of the story i'm curious because you said you met him out like a bar thing is it appropriate for guys to be like because i feel like this is the new thing now they meet a girl and they're like oh here's my instagram instead of like going straight for the number you think you'd rather have a guy go straight for your number or be like what's your instagram no because then And that means he's like very active on Instagram and cares about that shit. And I think that's so I'm not into that. Okay.

Okay. So continue the story. So you're, you met this guy. I asked him for Coke. Yeah. Just because I was fucking not in my right mind. I mean, I've been arrested three times. Just side note.

So I ask him for Coke and he's like, yes, uh, come downstairs with me, you know. Ooh, that was another one. He told me, own the bar. He was the fucking manager. Oh, my God. That was another one. But when did you find that out? I don't remember.

But he takes me downstairs. He like opens his safe, gives me coke. And that's how we met. You know what's funny you said earlier about like lying to a girl on the first day? Yeah. But it didn't work out. Like I don't think that's good advice. I feel like that was not sound advice.

Okay. No, no, no. I took it back. I said don't lie. Just have a quote ready. Okay. You know? It's a little white lie.

Yeah. It's like a little bit in the middle. Not like a, I own this bitch to like, no, you're just a manager. That's why you have keys. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like, because you open up and close the place down because the other guy who owns it is somewhere else. Yeah.

Got it. Okay. So, okay, anyways, you're, you're at the game. You got to sit on your face. You take a picture. He's like, with a hot dog in front of it. He's like, maybe move that to the side a little bit. Yep.

You look ugly. Yeah. And then. And then so now where do we go from here? I probably felt very self-conscious for the rest of the day. 100%. Oh, and then he, I remember he kept grabbing my face and making out with me so aggressively for five minutes at a time.

Was he drunk? No. He was sober. Wow. Five minutes? That's a long time. And I'm like, I thought you would want to watch what's, you know, the game. So he's sitting just like grabbing you and kissing you.

Yeah. And he just, he wasn't a very good kisser. So that was the worst date. Fuck. What makes him of a good kisser? Gentle. smooth like what the touch in the face that can be hot i can tell you all the things that are not grab your throat and then fucking pull you in that actually can be really hot okay i i do like

that one yeah but to make someone a good one it's hard to explain that without just saying what's not good you know say what's not good then tongue right away just down the throat that's the worse aggressive tongue yes okay that's keeping your mouth open for too long when they just like you you have made out with a girl who's done that yeah okay I know what you're saying you know when you're like your your jaw should close now yeah yeah that's exactly yeah there should be some of this like you don't need to be like I don't it should close now I get it holy shit that's accurate it's like a blowfish and a fish team you know what I mean yo fuck that's funny holy fuck because I like instantly know what that felt like yeah and it's like you'll close your mouth we got a there's like a rhythm

and a dance here that we're not doing okay okay it's like CPR shit yeah um so that's a no no tongue down the throat immediately but then also you know you'll do this thing sometimes where you'll like kind of tease and you won't go in for the kiss but you'll go like right there got it i've had to do do that like way too much too long like get guys you're Like, okay, now fucking kiss me. What the fuck are we doing? Holy fuck. That's funny.

Yeah. Fuck, dude. That's really funny. Okay. And then as far as like this, for the guys out there, as far as the pressure, right? Is it kind of, you have to kind of be soft, like not too aggressive. What do you think? You definitely have to start soft.

Yeah. For sure. If you start too aggressive, it's like what the, you know? Yeah. We're not trying to have like a teeth battle. Yeah. Yeah. But if you are just being like gentle, soft or more.

more than I would say 30 seconds, 45 seconds to a minute. Girls do this is so funny. Why? What am I doing? 40, 40, uh, 15 actually, you know what 10 seconds. It's just like, I love the, it just reminds me of all things you're like, girls don't know what they want type of. Which obviously is not exactly true.

Right. But there's obviously so much variance. Everyone obviously is different. Yeah. But I get it. I see what you're just saying. It's like if you're just soft the whole time, it's like, all right man, fucking get to it. Yeah.

Like you're a pussy. Yeah. So, okay. This guy kisses you a bunch. When do you break it to him that you're like, the fuck's going on? No, I just, I never said anything. I just ghosted him. Okay.

Completely. Yeah, well, we did go back to his place. Did he fuck? We did not fuck. We fooled around, though. You sucked his dick. Did I? That's a yes.

No, I really, I really don't think I did. What's fooled around? Fucking kiss with the open mouth? I think he was weird. remember he told me he couldn't come from sex which isn't necessarily weird wait wait what that is weird that is weird he said he couldn't he has to jack himself off holy fuck that's actually pretty common what you've never heard that no no jacob have you heard of that you guys need to wake the fuck up wait wait wait a guy okay yeah it's hard for some dudes his penis was like desensitized a little bit

Whoa. So he needed like that added pressure. Huh. How would you, but how? What? I don't know. Rip it a little harder. Yeah.

A vagina would. I don't know, man. That's crazy, right? The buddy has a fucking like squeeze his dick. Like, I don't get it. I'm sure. You guys know someone who has a penis that doesn't have that much sensation. No, I'm going to be honest.

Yeah. Like I've had times where it's like there's more sensation, less sensation. Oh. For sure. Like we're sometimes. like I'm a little bit more just sensitive like maybe it's based on like my diet my eating habits like there's a lot of stuff that can affect that but never where I was like my like because I don't maybe it's just me and it's a personal thing maybe it's like if I feel like if I'm using my hand it's just like

I'm now like almost exiting the situation and it becomes maybe mentally weird for me because he like wasn't into me I don't know you're saying this is a common thing this is not the first time I've heard of this yeah it's the first time I've heard this is the first time I've heard this is the I've ever heard this too. Yeah. As a dude. You've never. Like I know guys.

I know guys that have hard times where it's like, yo, like something's up. But not like, not like the thing that's going to solve it for me is my hand. There are a lot of Ben that have to come that way. Shit, dude. Yeah. I'm fucking not versed in this. I really think he just like didn't have enough sensitivity down there. Fuck.

Yeah. That's tough. Anyway. So, so. So. This is a side. track the point was you went back and you didn't fuck because he was like I don't know I'm gonna have to jerk myself off anyways well I think I you know I think it was a little off putting the whole date so I probably didn't want to fuck the vibe wasn't there but I was also in my fucking demon time stage of my life so I was like let's do something uh we made out he fingered me and I think I gave him like a half ass hand job yeah and then I just abruptly was like, I got to go.

I remember him saying, what the, what? What? He had a boner. Oh, that's tough. He just started, what the fuck? And I was like, that's tough. Yeah. And then he never heard from me again. Yeah.

That's a shit situation. Yeah. Have you ever had like, what was the, again, okay, this is the worst day, weirdest experience. What's the best experience you've ever had on a date? So we've got to be fair now. It was with my ex. and he took me to this really cool dinner spot and again it's it was his energy it was like how he walked into the room and how he held himself and like he like commanded the room he was like

can I order a bunch of shit for us and we'll share I love when dudes do that yeah love love love that makes sense a lot of girls say the opposite though feminist like what the fuck who the fuck do you think you are i love it so you like when a guy takes charge mm-hmm for sure i thought that was really hot um he was like i'm gonna get you this drink right i think just him saying like we're drinking was hot even though he was sober so it was just for me i thought that was hot he was like i'm not gonna you know do this bullshit but like i'm gonna support you doing it and it was just it was hot yeah it was a great restaurant they knew him right okay The little like handshake, like, what's up?

I'm like, okay, this guy is like connected. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. That makes sense. But maybe it's because like, well, I don't know at that time, were you on your boss shit? Starting to get there. Yeah. For sure.

Yeah. So I'm curious. Do you think that because when you started to get more, you know, popularity, fame, whatever you want to call it, money, clout, all this shit, do you think it changed your perspective on men and how you moved or how you dated? 100% And so in what way? I expected more, right?

You got to be at my level or above. I feel like all women literally think that way. Really? Yeah. Do you feel that way? As far as if I was... Like does a girl need to be at your level or above? No, I don't honestly, that's the thing.

I think it's different for men and women. I think I don't give a fuck. Like I care about a woman in the sense of what she's going to be doing for me, what I can do for and how we can have like a good synergistic relationship like I know that I'll always be able to take care of myself and always be able to take care of the people around me and I don't I don't need a woman to do that for me obviously but it's it's not like oh she needs to have this and that like I just want someone who's willing to like to help encourage me to push me to help me grow to make me want to be better right that's way more valuable than someone who's like oh you have money like me

and we have stuff together like I don't care about any of that I and you need a support system yeah It's like someone to help me do the things that like I really don't like doing. Not that like there are things that are just so hard to do, but it's just like, I want a woman that cooks for me. Yeah. Basic shit. Like not that like she has to cook every single meal. But like I love that like simple things. You're the guy that's like there better be a sandwich.

I would love that. But at the same time like I could understand, you know, if she's doing other shit too, like maybe she's not, doesn't have it every time. Right. But like I. No, I mean like she doesn't, she doesn't have to have a sandwich her every time. God forbid. No, I wouldn't care. So you would let a few days slide.

One day. One day. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. No, I would totally. It's just like it's obviously not an everyday thing. That's not realistic.

Are you paying for her life? Everything. Okay. Everything. Okay. Then I'm going to be like, cool. Yeah. No, I wouldn't, I would pay for everything.

Like it was like really that's, that's mine and we're together. We're really doing this. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. The exchange is like, I just want someone that like has my back, some that I could trust, someone that's, fucking doing the things that I just maybe don't technically have just the time to do. Yeah.

So you wouldn't find it like unattractive, but she has dinner on the table for you every night. No, she doesn't really have anything going for her work wise. Okay. So this is important. You said that. I think,

I think that like she doesn't need to be this like insanely successful, whatever. I just think she has to have something that she's passionate about. Okay. So she doesn't need to have this crazy money or success. But like as long as she's working towards something, which at the same time too, I also have to understand if I'm, I'm saying, oh, I want her to work towards something, then if she starts to get closer to that thing and it involves more of her time, then I have to be willing to make changes to understand, hey, now she's doing something that she's really passionate about. The thing that's important for me is having someone in my life that cares about something outside of me as well.

Yes. Right? Because you don't want someone that goes, like, you're the only thing that, like, moves me forward. And then they just constantly rely on you for all of that pressure to do anything. And then if you're not giving them enough, then like, maybe they start to feel some type of way. but if they have something of their own that's like I love this I'm passionate about I want to do this I'll support it and I'll help as much as I can for it to get to that point wherever you know we have to have that like reconvene of like hey so now it's like you can't have dinner every night because

you're doing these other things that you're passionate about you love like I totally understand that so I'm just saying to answer your question like she doesn't have to be there for me to be like I'll give you a shot it's like does she have those qualities that I really value yeah and then obviously like we were talking earlier about love or relationships it's it's all a work in progress right that's huge. That's huge. That's huge. You need to have a life with or without that person. Yeah. Otherwise, it's just a tug of war. Yeah. What about, what about for you, the gym? How important is the gym? Like how important is someone's like body? Like a dude's body, you mean? Yeah. Um, I. Like dad bod or like workout guy bod, bod, you know? I don't care. The workout bod is not bad important to me at all. I mean, again, again,

Again, this is like, I'm making it sound like I will fucking date whoever the fuck, right? I have standards. Yeah. But the, the gym body is not really that important. Do you think it changed with your age? You think when you were, not saying it like you, I'm just assuming you like that more when you were younger or anything, but has it changed with age? Like you're, yeah, for sure.

I actually find it unattractive. Like when I was on Raya, for example, the dudes that are on there with a sick. pack and that's like their profile picture. Biggest turn off. Biggest turn off. Are you laughing? Is that you? No, I don't have. I don't have any of that shit. No, I just think it's funny because Jacob has a fucking. I was not listening. Sorry, dude. I was that gray picture, that gray picture that you have on your dating profiles. Which one? Well, you're taking a selfie and you have your abs out. Jacob, you need to let me. I'm trying to track. I'm attracting the wrong woman. I will let me fix your dating profile i will get you pussy like this no he gets you give us the rundown please no he gets

pussy though he does yeah for sure but it's i just think it's funny because he's got that that great like black and white like ab shot no did i take that off immediately really but he yeah he pulls though he pulls he pulls crazy though you sure i mean it's maybe because he's like artsy guy creative videographer well does a picture look artsy or does it look no no it's a full on hey i want to be on The Bachelor. It's a douchebag selfie photo. Definitely probably a douchebag for sure. 100%.

Well, but I'm different because there's a lot of girls that that's what they care about. Would you fuck him? Just like, Oh, let's go. That's my boy. I love you, bro. Actually,

no, I wouldn't. Right now, I'm not doing that. Okay, fair. I'm not. I feel like the next time I have sex and has to have some meaning behind it. Of course.

I'm not saying you go do this shit without it. I'm just saying like if you saw him, you're like, okay. No, not like right now today. I'm just saying like, if you looked at that guy, like, would you be like, that's a potential obviously given the other things that are important for you, right? Because that's important.

Not just like fuck that guy just because he looks that way. Right. Actually, no, I said I would fuck him. I don't even know him. I just said that because it like sounded fun. I would need to have a conversation with you, Jacob. Yeah, for sure. Before I decided.

You know? Exactly. Jacob's like, I didn't even ask you, bitch. I'm just like over here in the fucking core. He's a good dude. He's a really good dude. I'll set you up. later i i'm sorry because like i know stearney's probably really still trying and like we can

dead that with jacob easily it's stony will show up here probably very upset yeah he'll probably cry we can do that to stony man he'll text me like oh why'd you say that why'd you say that he'll text me about this off off camera 100% yeah but anyways yeah fuck it um body is not that important to me i i actually find it a very big turn off and you're not gonna be happy with me if a guy is a a gym rat. So I love it. I don't, I mean,

he's fine. Unless, I mean, you like, you like, you know, not a lot of people like nice things. They just like,

like you clearly, you know, you like a lot of fuck of shit. Okay, but in your case, you're monetizing it. So that's, that's where I could get on board.

But the dudes that this is not, this is not my most recent ex, but one of my exes would spend three hours a day in the gym. And, I would be like, get a fucking job. Oh, my God. Get a job. What is his job?

He didn't have a job? Sales, like some complete bullshit. Damn. And I'm sorry, if you have time to go to the gym for three hours a day, there's something wrong. Really? Unless you're like, you know. Unless that's your thing. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. There probably is something wrong. And also, why are you that into the way you look? You could answer that. Well, that's, you know, totally I'll answer that. So the, I mean, it's funny you said there's something wrong because they're probably is not that it's wrong that they're doing that as their outlet, but there's probably

something in that person's life that they're trying to work through. So I spent a lot of time in the gym because, like I told you earlier, I lost my father when I was young. And the gym was a place for me that I had this camaraderie and a lot of like male role models and male figures that for me, I was like I want to be here because I'm getting something that I'm lacking in the rest of my life. Okay. Well, now I feel like a fucking ass. No, no, no. It's okay. I'm not trying to be feeling ass. I'm just saying like that's why. So some people spend more time because not just the the physicality of it but there might be other things that they're receiving from that experience that is like they need that makes them feel good about themselves or about what

they're doing about so there's more than just like I'm a gym bro and I just need to look good so I'm spending three hours in the gym because I want abs or some shit I never ever ever ever ever have thought about it that way yeah it really depends it's just through conversation yeah yeah maybe he was dealing with some shit so but it is funny you say he was probably you know something's wrong and that is true like I would for sure, say there was shit wrong in my life, and that's how I ended up here. Yeah. And then it just became this thing that for me on the internet was like, everyone's like,

oh, this shit's cool. And social media was like, oh, you got abs and you do this cool shit. Fun. And then it kind of turned into this shit that I have now. Like I did this before the internet was that I wasn't like, I'm going to be a social media influencer. I'm 33. So I did it before it was a thing. Wait.

So you thought that. You wanted that. What? You were like, I want to be a social media. No, no. What I'm saying is that didn't exist. Like YouTube existed, but Instagram wasn't a thing. Like I was already in the gym being like, I have terrible relationship issues and like trust issues and father issues.

And I was in the gym being like, wow, these training partners that I have that were older in their 30s. I was 17. They were giving me these life advice, all the stuff that I didn't have. Yeah. And I evolved through the gym and I just kept doing it. And then I became a trainer. And then the internet came along and I was just like posting my progress and my client's progress. And then it took off.

Like I was on Instagram like beginning day one shit. Wow. So it was like, I wasn't like, I'm going to be a sort of. social media influencer. It was genuine. It was from the heart. Exactly. And that's why you are where you are.

I believe so, yeah. For sure. And I believe a lot of people do it now because they're like, I can get a bag. I can get money. This is going to make me money. For sure. So for me it was just from that place. That's why I could say to that point of like something being wrong with that guy, probably.

Not that it's like a terrible wrong. It's just like something he's probably trying to figure out. Most people that spend time like that, just like people who take drugs, it's an escape from something, right? Right. And I've never thought about it that way. Yeah. demons like big time yeah and here I am fucking shitting on him for yeah you're like get a job you fucking me head and I'm out here smoking crack to do with mine and like how dare

you contemplating getting shitted on and god how dare you use the gym as an outlet and like as therapy but no that's that's a really good point and you know my personal trainer he kind of yeah it's like kind of a form of therapy really yeah every time I have a session. Yeah. Yeah, even that. That's how I felt as a trainer, I felt like as I was training, I also like not only was creating that environment from my client, but also for myself. Because, you know, in a lot of things that we do as just humans, as we teach or as we give, we also teach ourselves and we learn more about ourselves. And I think very early on, that's why this content feels so good to me because a lot of my relationship to clients when

I was younger and all the people that I worked with, it was all just conversation, learning and asking people questions and trying to like check in where they at because you're all the whole goal as a trainer at that time for me was to create accountability with that person so to create accountability you have to create relationship you have to create like checkpoints so you're like constantly checking in how do how do you feel besides the workout like as a person are you good are you getting sleep and you create all this conversation and it's like every time you have a conversation like again you're back with yourself yeah you know so um you know what you just you put me in my place no no no no No, no, in a really good way.

Because I'm, like, reflecting right now and I'm thinking, honestly, the, the relationship, like, I have with my trainer is, it's so therapeutic. And I think I'm, like, going into it, like, get the bigger ass, right? Yeah. Like, every session. That's literally, like, what, like, that's what I'm thinking in my mind. Yeah. And I'm dreading it. And then after it's a form of therapy.

And I learn so fucking much. you know I mean personal trainers are therapists doctors it's active it's active therapy it's a form of meditation for sure right like like motivational you know like they're they're a lot yeah and they don't get the credit they deserve damn that's tough they really don't they're just fucking dumb meatheads in the gym for three I know fuck that guy man why do they have such a bad rap I don't know because of people like me because this shit I just said well I'm well I'm not she's changing her ways she's changing her ways she's changing her ways That's funny

So you dated a meathead guy Yeah That's lit I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't say he was a meat head guy Three hours in a gym He was a disturbed He was a poophole loophole guy

Poophole loophole Mm-hmm So he's like a shit What? He grew up super Mormon Oh Oh yeah so he Okay

So he was fucking girls in the butt Being like we're not against He was soaking. Oh, shit. Yeah. And I think it fucked with his mental badly. Soaking. Just for reference.

Soaking is when you put it in, but you don't move it, right? You park it. You marinate. Holy shit. Mormons are lit. Holy shit. They're like, yeah, this doesn't count. Holy shit.

That's so funny. No, but there's this thing now where you can have your friend go under the bed and put their feet up on the mattress, right? on the mattress springs and like move it up and down so that then you have friction and it's them doing it not you so it doesn't count yes holy fuck you know what's crazy at that point just fucking at that point just have sex man no the mental gymnastics that like they do i mean my ex was fucked up bad i mean he he went on a mission right he had a wet dream and was so embarrassed and felt so guilty and like disgusted with himself he like had to hurry and clean it and had to like

confess in church and they were like just you know be more careful next time or some shit wow dude i mean imagine how that fucks with your with your psyche this is when you were young or this is that guy your ex yeah oh that was him that was his experience oh that wasn't me having a wet training Okay. Holy fuck. Mm-hmm. That's a weird, that's a funny loophole. The, the soaking. Yeah.

Or the going underneath the bed. And like someone else is doing it. We should just have someone else just grab you and go like this then into the same shit. Why under the bed? Maybe that's too intimate, right? It's like, it's touching. Someone's just under the bed. The bed's just moving.

Yeah. I mean, I would do it for my friend. Dude, that is so funny. This is just reminding me of like, God, no, I wouldn't. I don't think I'd want to be involved in that. California's fucking crazy. But I don't like it here, by the way. Why not?

I like it here. I'm loving. No, I'm having the best time here at your house. But, but your studio. But LA is kind of, what about it do you not like?

I was just talking about this last night. I think, you know what? I haven't lived here and like really immersed myself in the culture. But from the time I've spent here, very, a lot of people seem to be very, superficial fake social climbers yeah you know heavily not a lot of substance you don't think it's

the same way in the east coast people do the same kind of shit new york no new york you like there's substance and culture there i see i think how long are you gonna are you living here no no no you're not you never live here no i think it's because it the climate of everyone is like they're all kind of doing the same industry type shit and they're all because maybe it feels like there's so much competition everyone just kind of shits or tries to step on each other to like one up or some bullshit which is why in the beginning of the podcast I addressed the whole pussy steamy thing because I was like if it was for a bit it's fine but if he just did that on his own it's like you're a fucking turd for that well so I got to know if that's on a camera I'm coming for your bitch ass

but anyways yes I think I think this this place is full of people who are like trying to make it Yeah, which sometimes, a lot of times, that's like a certain type of person. Yeah. It seems like sometimes more of a desperate person, not that they're just completely desperate, but I think their need for whatever they're trying to get is just greater than their care of the people around. Narcissism. Yeah. I mean, shit, I've experienced that to crazy degrees.

Yeah. Like personally, crazy fucking degrees, like helping people out to the craziest extent and them just being like, eh, it wasn't enough, but thanks for all this money and all this help and all this clout. But I'm sure there's amazing people here, you know, if you find your right friend group. Yeah. Yeah. No, absolutely. There's definitely good people.

Yeah. Definitely good people. And it's, it is, it's become this like trendy thing to be like, L.A. sucks because of this shit. But is it a trendy thing. A lot of people. Yeah. I'm not trying to be trendy. No, it's fine.

No, no. But it is. It's a thing that people like all love to hate on it for what it is. They do? Yeah. It's just, I would say it's 10 times harder to find good here than like someone trying to fucking take advantage of you. But it's also because there's so many more people who are all trying to do like the same shit.

Yeah. But there are good people for sure out there. But I think like if you are the, if you grew up and you decided I'm going to go to Los Angeles and become an actor and I'm going to make it, I think you are a certain type of person. For sure. You know? Yeah. I came to L.A. because I was like, I didn't want to be in my hometown still because it was like a town that people just kind of grew up and like just almost.

just stayed in and then they were just like I was like oh I see this growing up and I don't want this yeah so I'm gonna go somewhere else and I was just I didn't because social media this wasn't a thing I was like oh I'll just go to LA and I'll become like a trainer I'll be a trainer there and maybe I'll train celebrities that that was my goal but yeah definitely it's definitely a place where everyone's like I'm gonna go make it yeah so okay let's let's let's shift a little bit let's talk about your podcast so you started your this this new podcast a few with an F, how long ago? Oh, close to two years ago.

Okay. And I would say for the first year and a half, maybe more, it was very experiential. It was not me really being me and me at my best. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. because I think I was well also I'm very hard on myself but for the first year I was just trying to figure out how to I was dealing with trauma right yeah and probably some drama and drama and living in my mom's basement in Utah and recording from a fucking room that had no windows you know yeah and it was really difficult and I didn't really give myself time to heal I love this. This is me promoing my podcast. It's a great podcast, everybody. No, it's just real. No, this is real. But it's good. Yeah, for the first little while there, it was just, I had no

idea what the fuck I was doing. I was also like starting a business from scratch, you know? Yeah. Like I had never done that before. I had always worked for a company. And now, even with the caller daddy thing? Yeah. We worked for bar stool. But it was just like, right? Like you never had any sort of like, oh, structure about how you're going to do it? I mean, we wrote and edited the podcast ourselves, but our structure was, hey, let's write it. Next day, go record it. Yeah. So you guys, you actually wrote.

Yeah. I never do. Oh, wrote out. Like wrote out. Um, sometimes we would. Like there was some things that were scripted. I would say like half and half. Uh, interesting.

I just swing this shit. Like I really. Yeah. Now I do. And mostly I would wing it. She would have more of a script. Interesting. Very interesting. Yeah. I'm much better just off the cuff. Yeah. Not even trying to like sound cool, but hosting is hard, right? You really think so? I think so. Like having to host and also be like the, you know, sports. You have the color commentator. Yeah. And then what's the other one?

Fuck it. I don't know sports like that. You don't know? No, I'm not a big sports guy. Play by play. Play by play and the color commentator. Okay. But the whole fucking point is my podcast, if you enough, the first of a while, I can't, I don't even recognize the girl in those first few episodes in the past.

I don't know. I think it was when I moved back to New York and got out of my mom's basement. Um, the past six months, I've just really come into my own and you can hear it and just confident. What did you learn during all that like downtime that you were like, okay, now I know that I can be more what I want to be in this space? Like, what did you learn? Like, I didn't have downtime. Okay. So that's the thing is I did not have a period of time where I just let myself go through the emotions and heal. Yeah.

I really didn't. I mean, after all that shit happened, I'm pretty sure my first episode came out like two months after, right? Yeah. That was kind of fucking crazy. I mean, I remember I went to a wedding in Switzerland and I was, they had me sit next to this guy who had just been in a similar situation, very successful. podcast and he went through half the amount of like bullying and shit that I went through and he

tried to commit suicide right and he asked me he was like how the fuck are you even in front of a microphone right now because I can't even think about like writing an episode and that was like six months after so I just and I'm not recommending this I just numbed myself and just jumped into work but I when did I heal because like I do feel like I've healed a lot I think it's just in you know just time but what but in relationship to the healing what did you learn because in healing you normally get some sort of like lessons like so what did you learn about yourself that has that has helped you now moving forward because in allowing you to be more of your true self right so there's something there that you learn was it just like let go or what like what was the I

learned how fucking resilient i am um how any situation any situation you can overcome it you know yeah anything and in a very weird way it gave me this new kind of confidence like a real confidence because leading up to it i think it was fake you know leading up to the whole It was like this fake, like, oh, I have clout and likes and whatever. And then when you're fucking brought to the ground, you know, and the whole world is shitting on you. Yeah. Then your confidence has to come from something real.

Yeah. You know? Absolutely. It has to be substantial enough. Do you hate this Alex Cooper girl? No. Do you have a relationship at all with her now? No.

Yeah. Mm-mm. Is there ever any chance of that? I don't think so I don't see a need just too deep huh I mean I think there's just certain people that I'm very picky about the people I want in my life you know yeah now that I'm older for sure that makes sense that's fair um so dating wise you're not dating anyone specifically right now does Steinie have a chance if he is nice really let's go but he He's not nice, so no.

Why is he not nice? Why? Yeah. Yeah, why is he not nice? You're really asking me why Steinie is not nice. No, I mean, I know. Why do you think he's not nice? Just watch any footage of him that's ever been put out.

And you'll know. You'll get an idea. Like, are you joking? Yeah. He's fucking, he's so rude. Oh, that's hilarious. He's a little bit confusing, though, because, like, he can be really nice. And then I'm like, okay, like, this is who Steinie is.

And then he'll just fucking 180 hit you with something. That's funny. Do you think I'm nice or mean? Very nice. Oh, shit. Thank you. This is so refreshing after recording with Steinie last night. Yeah.

And like, there are good men in the world. Damn. Yeah. What was he hit you with? Like fucked up shit? Like what? I'm trying to think. I mean, there's so many things.

I'm trying to think of like one that. It's something that stuck out. Yeah. I think, well, he started this show by saying, you know, I could have introduced you as my side bitch, but I'm not. And I mean it when I say you're my main bitch. I mean, just that right there gives you a little insight. Should I be flattered? Were you about to say I should be flattered by that?

No. No. I feel like he just says shit, though. You're like, what's wrong with that? No, what's wrong with him? Like, what the fuck? It's just a weird. It's, and I, I can't tell if it's for the camera, it's for the camera.

100% for the camera. I don't know because I have spoken to him off camera and there's been some questionable shit. So. I just don't, I think he, I mean that's for the comedy. There's no way. Have you ever hooked up with him? Like, what does he say any of that? No.

Okay. All right, all right. I can. You say cat? I cannot believe you just ask me that. Oh, no. I just, I don't know. Absolutely not.

So then it's cap. Then it's for the camera. All that shit. right yes it's for the camera yeah oh my so then he's not then is he really mean uh-huh so then is he really mean then because he's just doing it for the camera no but off camera he's he's like you want to be my main bitch or my side bitch off camera off camera he says things like um oh my flight i have to come back here in like two weeks right yeah yeah and i told him i'm not i'll be there in two weeks i'm not flying in and i have to record in new york tomorrow yeah and he was like

okay, I will pay for your flight. And he paid for the flight. And I asked for a return. Oh, no, I asked for a hotel for one night. Mm-hmm. One night stay in a hotel. Yeah, yeah. And he texts me and he's like,

holy fucking shit, Princess Diane. Like, I feel like I'm fucking flying in Ariana Grande. Like, what is this shit? Yo, this is fucking hilarious. I'm like, I'm, like, I'm so. what the fuck world are we living in oh yeah steiny i'm just you're just going to give me a one-way ticket and like i just have to figure it out pay for the rest i mean i could that was very stiny of course you could but that was principal right yeah yeah that's very that's very steiny damn dude

so that's what i'm saying yeah he was not on the camera yeah he was just like jesus pay for your own shit so he probably was shit talking you and he wasn't on camera damn i'm gonna find motherfucker, I'm going to find out. Steiny, I love you. I'm just kidding. I tell she's really not, though. That was like a little, that'll make it nice.

That was sweet of you. Okay, well, you are going to come on my podcast. 100% yeah. So, be it enough. Yes. And I talk about sex. So if you're a dude listening, you'll get very aroused and it'll be great.

Yep. And it's fun. It's a great time. And check out my YouTube. YouTube. So you can see my ass and my tit. Amazing. You got.

I love how I'm just like. That's my self-worth. I'm like, if you want to hear me talk about sex and see my body, then this is what you do. But it's Sophia and F Franklin with the Y. Yeah, and you got Instagram, all that stuff, Twitter as well. Yep. I appreciate you coming. Thank you so much.

For being so candid and honest. Yeah. Thank you. This was, yeah. And I look forward to doing your show. Yeah. If you guys want to subscribe, YouTube, do it, give it a like. You like the video.

If you want more guests like Sophia, obviously, there's only one of her. But I tend to have a lot more men on this show and I want to have more women. on it yeah um because obviously sometimes it just becomes like a fucking echo chamber of like yeah bro right and that's man cave yeah yeah yeah i want to change it up a little bit so subscribe to the channel we're on spotify i think we're on iTunes all that good shit show some love i'm out of here thank you again for real thank you crushed that have so much fun