RAWTALK - DDG On Rubi Rose Drama, Connection with Gunna, Youtuber to Platinum Rapper & His Fake Voice

Episode Date: March 11, 2023

Moonwalking in Calabasas rapper DDG joins us on Rawtalk and talks about his come up, dating drama, what's real & what's not. Shares about his relationship with Halle Bailey and the misconceptions. Talks rap career & his relationship with Blueface and Gunna.SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK... LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: / @rawtalkclip SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: / @bradleymartyn SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartyn...RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

Oh, you can hear you can hear me now? I post long-ass videos. Yeah, I saw. I was looking at your stuff. Yeah, so it's damn near like a podcast. Like, I posted a three-hour and 30-minute video. Yeah. And he got a million views.

So you already know. How many ads you put in your podcast? Well, you get, like, the ads from, like, obviously YouTube during the time. Obviously, you can put more when it's longer. But then you get, you get, like, brand deals. You could put a couple throughout. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a couple, like, you know, substantial deals for sure.

So, okay, okay. It's dope, it's cool. Yeah, you go next level, next level. So what brand new you got for this one? I think there's two in this one. Okay, that's dope. Yeah. It's funny.

I mean, it's not foreign to you, the money. You've been doing YouTube for a minute. Yeah, it's been like, um, been about seven years now. Yeah. Fuck, it's crazy because you're worth 25. So you guys started young. Yeah, I started when I was like 18, 19, around that age. I really not actually I started in like 10th the 11th grade yeah I used to buy views like

what yeah used to buy when I first started I mean buy views I used to go on like Google ads and like buy views and like pay for advertisers for my little skits yeah I know people who do that still yeah like a lot of people still do that it's actually like pretty popular yeah um what pushed you into youtube like why like you were 18 19 you're like I'm just going to do this yeah I mean I mean It's really just, I don't know. I just liked it creating videos, entertaining. I used to make skits for my homies, my friends. Yeah.

And then they was like, oh, this is funny. I just kept doing it. But then it got to a point where I figured out that you can make money from it. Yeah. So then that's when I really got into it. The first YouTuber that I really start watching and it made me really want to start doing YouTube was Fuzi Toad. Wow. That's actually really funny.

Because he was the first YouTuber that I got into YouTube with. Like I had been doing Instagram because Instagram was like, I started away before YouTube. And I got to like 600,000, I think on Instagram. This is like way back in like, most of him in 2013, 2014. And he was one of the biggest YouTubers at the time. And I met him at like a celebrity game, like a football game. And I was like, oh, I want to, because he was like kind of overweight. And I was like, I want to get into YouTube or train you and then help me like start my YouTube career.

So it's kind of interesting how you see. said that's the guy you saw yeah i used to watch foosy tube every day like yeah every single day i watched every blog what about like what about i this is actually interesting what about certain people did you like enjoy and do you like do you find anyone that you enjoy now on youtube or do you just like make so much content you can't consume it yeah like i can't really get into nobody now because it's like i i do it so much now it's like i can't really lock in with a creator i would say the only creator that I really watch is Kai. Kai Sinat.

That's the one I really watch now, because, you know, he's like my homie at the same time, but at the same time, he's very entertaining. So I'm more in like the stream world when I consume content now versus YouTube,

but I don't know. I like the vulnerability. That's what I really like. On YouTube. Yeah, like when people just open with it, and that's why I liked Food YouTube so much because the nigga was crying and shit on me. I was like,

This shit real, this crazy. There's dog dad, this shit. Like, I'll, you know what I'm saying? I was feeling the emotion through the screen. So I'm like, man, it's like a damn TV show, like a soap opera. Yeah. So I kind of, in my content, I try to be like vulnerable to an extent, you know, but I ain't fin to cry on that bitch.

If I cry on there, you know, it's fake, but it's like skit type shit. Yeah, I cry. I'm a big pussy, dude. I get talking to some shit that'll make me cry. But I'm curious, though. So you were like in YouTube and then you're like, I'm going to start doing music or had you always wanted to do music? I've always been around music.

But as growing up, I used to watch conspiracy theories. And I used to be really scared of the Illuminati and all this other bullshit. Because I used to watch these YouTube videos like every day. And I'd be like, what the fuck? I don't want to be a rapper. Because of the idea of the Luminati like controlling. Yeah, like they just made it. It is scary for, it makes it scary for like an artist to really, and not everybody be thinking like, oh, you sold your soul, blah, blah, all the other shit.

Yeah. But in reality, that shit ain't even real for real. So it's like, I always been around and my dad was an engineer in my hometown of Pontiac, Michigan. I used to make songs. I got songs when I was like five. Do people joke and say you're not really from there? What, from Pontiac? Yeah, because I feel like I've seen a few things that people are like, he's not really from there.

No, no, I think people just I think Pontiac is such an unknown city And I'm kind of like the one that really Put it on Because it's like a small city Like nobody says I'm from Pontiac

Everybody says I'm from Detroit But I say I'm from Pontiac You know what I mean? Like I don't like to claim another city That I'm not from So I kind of like put it on a map In the way But

Nah man My dad was an engineer back in Pontiac um i got songs with my brothers when i was like five as a kid uh i just always been around it i just never really took it serious for that one weird reason so fun so i was like but you know i'm a kid so i'm believing this shit as i'm doing it or whatever and then as i got into youtube and i got bigger and bigger i started making a lot of money and then i got into that disc track era yeah i remember rice gum era and all that shit so then i was like okay this shit low-key moving and I knew I can rap like I always knew I could do music it's just something that I

never really just like no I'm really do this shit how do you find that out you're just like one day in your bathroom fucking singing to yourself I used to battle rap in high school middle school like at lunch and shit like I used to really be rapping so it'd be like I always knew I had the skill to rhyme because it is a skill a lot of people can't rap you know so I always knew I had that skill so I'm like damn you know I want to do this shit but at the same time like you know i don't know i'm making so much money on youtube i'm just focus on this then the disc track era really kind of segue away me into this career in a way because i was getting so many views and so much love and people was like to stay in youtube yeah like to

keep doing the the disc track shit yeah so i was like shit let me go ahead and try to make an original song my own joint it really take music serious so then i made another channel which is my music channel now and I was like I'm gonna separate it and then I just started dropping this is why I find so interesting about you versus a lot of other creators who like try to make music like you actually really do it like you really did it and you've separated it where like it doesn't feel like you're like a corny YouTuber trying to rap yeah and I'm not trying to disrespect anyone but like that's something that I noticed about you looking at your stuff like you separated enough that it doesn't feel that way where like most people like they're

YouTubers and they start rapping it's like you're just a YouTuber that's like trying to trying to rap first like a youtube where became like a rapper and it's somewhat separate yeah the music industry is really perception like this shit is just all how it looks for real so when i put myself around certain people or you know you see me in on a red carpet or you see me around this artist and this rapper and doing a feature with this dude it just make the shit more real for people even though it's already real to me and make it more real to the audience you know what I feel like other people that did music and did YouTube at the same time like I'm doing kind of like never really took that approach where I'm like okay let me focus on the image

and the perspective to really make motherfuckers believe what's going on yeah well let's talk about that because I saw an interview did a couple months ago at breakfast club and you were talking about how like being a rapper and being a YouTuber like being a YouTuber can kind of affect what I guess like image wise people perceive a rapper being a rapper versus a YouTuber. Why do you think there is that, like, that line that makes people be like, like I said earlier, oh, you're just a YouTuber and not take you serious as a rapper? Because it's like, it's like your YouTube audience is like your family. So it's like, think about it. If you got a cousin right now, right, and he start rapping, like, you're going to support

it. But at the same time, you're like, I know this deal. I grew up with him. The hell this is my cousin. You know what I mean? So it's like, I feel like that's how people look at me for the, for the people that grew up watching me they like they hold you to that yeah they hold me to that like i don't you just see you doing skits and now you you know what i mean so they try to they think they know me and they think they can like be like oh nah he ain't really rapping for real like i i just like him for this so some people just there's people to this day that watch me every single day that has never listened to one of my songs yeah well that's an interesting thing how people just in general like want to put you in a in a box yeah they just choose not to listen to it but

everybody that choose to listen to my music like it yeah so the people that don't say don't like it or they say my music is trash or whatever they have never listened to a song yeah it's always from the outside end yeah for sure let's talk about that that's funny that that that idea of like selling your soul to the illuminati because of the music industry when you're a kid and you got older and then you get more into the music industry are you fully independent so you're signed yeah i signed 2018 do you still feel like it's uh it's obviously there's not like the illuminati and everything but there's more control right because like they kind of they i don't know nothing about the lumini by the way that ain't got well i'm not saying that's like i'm not saying that's having

i'm just saying like people in charge of these businesses the labels they do want and expect certain things it's different business it's you know they try to make money it's like they invest in a lot of them invests in millions into artists they want to make money times 10 so you know it's it's cool my deal is it's a partnership so i own my masters like like a 50-50 deal so it's like my shit more cool than most artists well you probably knew that because you came in with the business sense from doing YouTube and making your own money prior to even existing in that space where you like you knew your value yeah and I think a lot of people they don't they just kind of get taken because someone sees like a potential they get signed and you know

that 360 and they take everything yeah and they don't really know what the value really is um also something I found I found out about just randomly I don't know who's tough it was it was blueface or someone was telling me you have an uh a on only fans that is for teaching people how to like make money on the internet yeah i stopped doing it you stop doing that yeah i think i'm gonna make my own website and do it because i feel like just kids in general that probably want to learn for me like how their parents gonna look at it and they go on their phone and they see only fans yeah i'm gonna yeah yeah you're only fans for then they got to explain oh i'm learning from ddg so i see yeah yeah you should make a site that's

that's what that's yeah but then was that was that like what kind of content were you putting on there I was really teaching people like everything I know. So I'd be like, okay, this is how you make this content. This is how you get the most views, thumbnail, clickbait, titling. You know, I was just teaching people what I know on how to grow as a YouTuber. I feel like everybody wants to learn from me because I started an entertainment company, which I kind of stopped now when I signed a bunch of creators. And I started off with one female.

and she went from zero mind you she she never did YouTube never did nothing Instagram nothing signed her to this entertainment company I came with off the dome and was like okay let's work she went from zero to 200 subscribers 200,000 subscribers in like a month and a half or something like that making five figures yeah so it's like when people seen that I was like okay let me do it again did it again with another creator did it again and kept doing it so it built my credibility to the point where i'm like okay i'm gonna make this only fans and teach y'all how i did how i'm blowing these people up and doing this and that and um yeah i made a lot of money yeah do you but like that situation's because i've i've done

some management stuff but i don't you ever find yourself in positions where like people kind of they turn their back on you have your back turned on like like uh yeah like someone will be like you didn't do this for me yeah yeah you know how they'd be everybody want attention yeah they're want all your attention so it happens it is what it is it's business but um you know i don't i don't feel no type of way about yeah yeah speaking of attention um what what happened with the whole ruby bros and the whole like wearing the shirt thing you made it did you make a song literally because of that like did you make the song the next i made a song because i'm the type of niggie where i i maximize all negativity you know what i'm saying so it's like i just

see even though like internally the whole situation is completely different than what it look like online yeah i just i'm just the type of negative troll and try to maximize every dollar so i'm like okay i'm gonna get on stream talk about it a little bit make some money get my clips i'm gonna go ahead make a little video click bait the titles a little bit woo then after that i'm gonna make a song so it's like like if y'all gonna hate on me at minimum i got to make money well what was the problem what were they what were they mad about they just think I'm a dog now that's not that's not what it is though

but I'm not the type of nigga to really get on there and explain and tell nobody business so it's like I know what it looks like and I'm okay with getting hated on you feel me like I don't really care like the internet is fake and I guarantee you even though we're talking about it right now which I know you probably going to use this as your title and shit maybe some title something in there yeah yeah but I mean

you probably gonna bring this shit back up I know motherfuckers want to hear about it and shit but other than that it's like people forget I'm still happily where I'm at yeah you know if it was really a serious situation like the female I'm dating I'm pretty sure it's hundreds of thousands of people that want her you know what I mean and and she has plenty of options if it was really a serious situation internally she would have been gone yeah howley would have loved yeah yeah come on man she you know what that is so it's like it's like it's People don't look at that, though. So they think she, like, doing something wrong,

but in reality, they don't know what's really going on. Yeah. So, but it wasn't on, it's not on purpose. Like, it seemed like she wanted to clout. She was coming after it. Yeah, I just see to find a whole situation lame. It's like, that's just so, it's just lame to me. Like, as you can see from my end, like, I'm not exposing those messages.

Yeah, yeah. That's some real lame. shit real real females ain't doing no shit like that you know what I mean like just trying to screenshot and show some shit and tweet and get retweets and all that other shit and then when she see ain't nothing go down and she shut it all down and it's like you ain't got nothing else you hear me so it's like but the blogs and all that stuff like I feel like that's I don't know like it seems like the music industry well I guess just social media in general like people

thrive on just that type of attention that negativity like negativity seems to be like because I saw a tweet which I fully I fully relate to you were tweeted like a couple days ago about like it doesn't matter if you're super positive like no one really gives a fuck and if you're negative people are all over and they're trying to figure it out and they're trying to like make this be something that they wanted to be and create this stories um have you dealt with more like negativity or positivity throughout your career would you say because you obviously know how to spin it yeah positivity for sure yeah um I'm rarely hating on like This is my first go-around, so...

Really? Yeah, it's kind of... It's kind of a little weird to me. I'm usually the most liked motherfucker. So it's a little different when I'm on the other end of the poll, and it's like, motherfuckers hating on me, but I'm starting to navigate through it and starting to really figure out how to, you know, deal with it.

Yeah. It's a whole different audience for me, so it's like... The angry haters? Yeah, it's like, you know, Twitter makes... I was talking to somebody yesterday, and I was we was talking about Twitter and I Twitter makes a fan so much more powerful on any other social media like yeah Twitter makes a fan damn near a celebrity yeah because you can have you can have five followers you can have a hundred followers you tweet the right shit yeah that goes crazy in the right motherfucker retweeted it like it it's over with your shit going 5,000 retweets a million views you know what you're starting a whole scandal. Everyone sees it. Twitter's fucking powerful, man. I love it.

It is. It's dope, though. I fuck with it for that reason. But at the same time, you know, when you get negativity, it's kind of ass. But at the end of the day, that's why I fuck with it. I'd be on that bitch every day. That's my favorite app. Yeah. You don't like, are you, are you heavy on Instagram or? I like Instagram, but I just post a picture and get off, for real.

Yeah. I might post a little story or something. What about TikTok? That shit. TikTok is my consumes most of my time. So you're on that. I don't post on there, but, like, I post on there, but not as often. I'm just starting to, like, really post on there. Yeah. But, like, when I wake up, TikTok is definitely, like, I close that motherfucker.

Go check out Instagram for a second, maybe Twitter, close them, open TikTok back up, scroll a little mode, close it, open it back up. Yeah. It's hard to get off of TikTok. Yeah, in between going to the bathroom, come back to it. That's what I'm saying. TikTok's tough man like I will I'm telling you the truth like I literally one day I was scrolling and I remember like I felt like I had to pull myself away from it because it was so it got me so

wrapped into it which is crazy though because like you gotta think these kids are probably rotting their fucking brains man like that non-stop scroll and just like the attention span my nephew he watched YouTube shorts though same shit yeah it's same exact thing like they they all doing the same shit but like he watched YouTube shorts a lot I feel like a lot more a lot more kids is on YouTube shorts versus TikTok I feel like TikTok is really people are age. Yeah. What content do you enjoy making the most now?

Like what do you have the most besides music stuff, obviously? Like what content on social? Because I still see you do a bunch of vlogs still. Yeah. No, I like just vlogging. I like just having fun, daily life shit. It's really it. It's like selfless shit, not too forced.

I used to do like a lot of like series and shit where I like make up a storyline. Yeah. And I kind of like, you know, create like a, my own little mini series and mini TV show for a second and like just keep doing that. That's fun. But now it's just more so like just day in the life. I feel like that's more personable for my fans and shit. Why do you think people like you? Like, why do you think you're successful?

Because obviously you've been doing it for long enough. You're able to see what works, algorithm, clickbait, all this kind of shit, titles. But why do you think people are drawn to you as a YouTuber? I think, and I say this before confidence, I think I'm one of the funniest people alive. Yo, what the fuck? I'm funny. That statement was funny.

If you understand, if you really understand my humor, like I got a different type of humor, you know what I mean? Like, I got a troll mentality. So it's like my humor is just a little different. It's not forced. You know what I mean? And once you get it, you like, God damn, this thing funny as hell.

So I'm funny, I'm real. You know, I'm relatable. And it's just like, I don't know. Like, I like watching me. Damn. Yeah, that's how you know, that's how you know is good content. Anytime I see my content, I'm like, oh, this is funny. And it's me.

I'm like, that shit's probably really good. That's what I'm saying. Like, I watch my, sometimes when I edit a vlog or somehow, I'm watching them, like, oh, it's funny. They don't like this shit. You edit all your own stuff still? most of it like I'm like

because I got a cameraman I just started doing a cameraman shit I used to just vlog off my phone I've logged off my phone for like a whole year What the fuck

Yeah edit on eye movie on my phone What the fuck Shit hell of easy But then I got into the cameraman shit And it's way easier So sometimes like if I'm too tired

I just ask him to cut it up But I barely edit I tell him don't even edit for real Yeah Because my you know my vlogs now Just like I'm raw Yeah it's like raw hour long type shit yeah i think people that's that's coming back a lot more like people like

people like that more right now like because i remember all this stuff kind of goes in phases of like what's popular what people like like the quicker stuff i mean obviously like the mr b shit insanely viral because it's so crazy but it's a specific audience for that kind of stuff yeah you think you have like an older audience yeah my fans grew up yeah i don't like to call them fans supporters yeah they grew up for sure yeah they everybody that come up to me and like take a picture man I've been watching you since I was 14, 15. Yeah, I get the same shit. Yeah, so they're like, you know, they're in their 20s now.

But, you know, I got kids that rock with me too, but I definitely have an older fan base now. Yeah. So I guess on the music side of things, in relationship to like other content creators, and also do you think that now in relationship to music to be like a, I don't know, to have a strong following as a,

as a music creator not just like a content creator you kind of have to do social media like you i feel like you can't do i feel like almost now it's like labels will be like well they're probably if they're going to consider you they're probably looking at your socials you can't succeed in the music industry as just being a good artist no more unless you motherfucking drake little baby yeah you know what i'm saying and you're motherfucking Travis scott and shit and you ain't you know what you already passed that threshold or trying to make it. Yeah.

And you are already, so Turing got such a solid fan base that you good. You know what I mean? You ain't really got to get online or somebody like Playboy Cardi or young boy. You know what I mean?

They fans is just there no matter what. So it's like, if you ain't got that, it's like you have to be on social media. So it's like, every song that's on the charts right now got hundreds of thousands of videos on TikTok. Yeah.

It's all content. Yeah. I might piss a lot of people off with this, but why do people like young boys so much? Why do you think he's so popular? He's like the craziest, huh? Playing with fire, man. I'm not saying, I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying.

If that nigger fan base crazy, I'm trying to say. That's what I'm saying. That's my question. Why? It's not to say that I don't like him. I'm just saying, why is he so fucking, like, popular? Why is his fan being so crazy?

He just real. He just say whatever. Like, the nigger, get on the internet and tell you, you know what I'm saying? He'd get on the song and tell you what the fuck happened last night even though it's some crazy shit that a motherfucker wouldn't tell you know what I mean yeah he just put all this shit in his music by the way I got a song with him called hood melody it just went go yesterday yeah I saw that yeah so you know have you out of all these people you've

worked with like who's your favorite that you've worked with which is kind of might be a hard question to answer because like they all they might you know I would say blue face yeah he's nice man he's a nice dude yeah he's very mis conceptualized from his this relationship and what's going on with him right now, but that's a real nigga. Like, I fuck with Blueface, like, as, like, a real homie type shit. Yeah, he's cool. Like, I did a pod with him and Stiney,

and then he came to the gym and worked out, and he was like, not all how I expected him to be. Nice as fuck. He's nice as hell, man. He gave me my first real big shot. Like, Blueface is my first real big feature. Yeah. Was it the Calabasasas song?

That shit blew up. He hit me up. He was like, let me remix that. I'm like I don't know how this because you know he it's a whole different style so I'm like shit fuck it I mean I don't know how it's gonna go but he he put it that I went to the studio he was like all right I'm gonna come in right here and I'm coming in right here and boom and we did it and he did it right there in the studio I'm like oh this shit hard what the fuck yeah that song that song is dope yeah this shit went up man so yeah so how does how does uh how does if you

could explain this I don't know if you can but I think you can like how does music payment work like people make a song like the engineers get paid the artists get paid the label gets paid like how do that how does that break down man like the streams music cost so much money to make bro that's why the shit don't come out as much because it's like bro it's you got producers out here charging 20,000 for a beat and then they also want percentages on the back end then you got to pay the engineer then you got to pay to get a mixing master then you got to pay to get it up and then you got to pay to get it up and then you got to get it up and on the streaming platforms so it's like it's just so much different size of money that come from and then you got the publishing side when shit hit the radio and get played at this and that you know i mean like it's so much different shit um but i started off independent so i was independent for like two three years before i even got signed to a label so i was making a lot of money like you make a lot of money on music i'm not going to lie so then why did you go to label why did you because you can't you can't get to that point without a label you can't get to that that Drake level you can't get to

that that young boy level can't you know what I'm saying you can't you're not going to get there without a big machine behind you that's going to put you on these playlist going to put you on this these labels got a whole building the motherfuckers that's just going to work your song make sure that they're going to do all the little shit that you wouldn't do as an independent artist or you can't do as an independent artist yeah so that's like that's why you see like you couldn't tell me an independent artist right now that's on the charts that's on top four word you right now i see what you're saying couldn't tell me because wait so how do how do these playlist things work because don't play this work like if you're on it and it gets a play like if let's say

if drake's on it and they play his song all the whole playlist gets a play kind of it depends on you know the listener so you know i just dropped a song recently called way too petty as you know yeah this whole situation funny yeah and i i i drop a lot of songs just on youtube but i was like you know I'm gonna push this through my label and they was able to get it on Rap Caviar top 20 just like that. It's all connections.

Like, I don't know if it's money involved with the playlist, it might be, might be a retainer, you never know. But, you know, it was so easy for them to get on Rap Caviar, which has like 12, 20 million listeners on it. So it's like, if you get on that playlist, you're good.

Like, you, on Spotify, you're good. Like, you don't, If your song's good, it's going to get played, and you're in the mix with motherfuckers, like, you know, the big hitters. So it's like, once they song get played by their fans on there, your song come next. So you gain their new fans when you get on these playlists. Yeah.

But it doesn't work like I'm thinking if it works, like if someone on it there gets a play, then everyone else gets to play. It's just because it's like in rotation. No, it's like if a motherfucker could get on your song, while they're on a playlist, they might not like it and skip it. You never know. So the song needs a certain amount of play

to get like a stream 30 seconds 30 seconds yeah so if they play us on for 30 seconds it kind of the stream okay and so the money comes based on because I mean I kind of have an idea of this I've talked to other people about it but people listening probably think about this kind of stuff so the money comes based on how many times it gets played and then like how long it gets played not that once they hit that 30 seconds you good that's a stream you click off my shit at that point I already got my stream but it's how many plays it is yeah it's just like you two Yeah. So on YouTube, when you drop a music video and it gets like fucking 20 million views or 90 million views, this is just YouTube like AdSense. Yeah, that's regular. Yeah, that's regular shit. Damn. Yeah. It's a whole completely different. But Apple makes, Apple and title makes the most money for streaming. So like you make way more money on CPMs. It's all CPMs. It's just like, you know, regular shit. So it's like your shit get a lot of views on Apple. You make a lot of money.

Spotify is like half that I think You still make a lot of money though Yeah But um What's the most you've ever made from a song I'm assuming it's the Calabasas one Yeah I dropped that independently No I dropped

You drop that independent? No Yeah man Oh shit I dropped the independent Because look this would happen This will happen And I

So in 2019 I believe I think that's when I dropped I dropped the album called Balladictorian Which was really forced It was just a bunch of songs. I'm fresh in the industry as a sign artist.

I put 18 songs on there. Not really thinking about the business of it and how much money needs to be spent. And there's a lot of money getting spent. And I'm rushing out an album that, you know what I'm saying? I know in my heart it's not that good. You feel me? Yeah.

So I put it out, shit ain't do nothing. You know what I mean? It wouldn't really nothing crazy. Wasn't that good. So, you know, that kind of fucked me up a little bit. and I kind of got put on the shelf and my label so you know even thinking from a business aspect

of me owning my own independent label if I put millions of dollars behind this motherfucker and I make you know what I'm saying I don't make it back then I'm like okay let me focus on somebody else type shit so I fill them on that but after that I'm like okay let me go ahead get on the ground and start running again

so I just start dropping independently myself you were able to be signed and drop independent at the same time they allow me yeah because i'm under the radar at that point they don't really give a fuck you got to think about it like it's my label got fucking future DJ Callet 21 Savage and shit you know they got the they got niggas that's really making them millions of dollars so i'm like okay i'm on a shelf but i ain't gonna fall off like i'm gonna i'm gonna make this shit work so i just start dropping like once a month kept going and i just i got one but i drop i got a song that went gold that I dropped independently um it's called arguments okay it's a um R&B song but I made like

I signed it over to my label at some point but I made like half a million on it on the Calabasas one no arguments oh okay yeah Calabasas made a lot of money but I but I signed it over to the label to really you know what I'm saying make that bitch go yeah feel me but I dropped it independently because uh Blueface leaked it so I was like I got to hurry of just put it out yeah that shit went crazy yeah that shit went up i go over to like amsterdam and shit and they singing that motherfucker and i ain't really get to experience that because i dropped it in the pandemic so it's like when i dropped it i didn't even know like i still don't feel like it's a huge song until i go somewhere and i hear motherfucker singing it because i didn't get to go to the clubs

and get to go performing here and there because we stuck in the house have you have you toured much yeah yeah i just i went on a tour in 2021 that was my last time it's been a long time actually but um i went with kevin gates yeah for three months we went around the whole united states what's the most fun you've ever had on tour depends i don't know i don't really have like a favorite tour moment to be honest like it's it's all fun you've done overseas stuff though yeah yeah yeah i would say that's the most fun i had i did like a festival tour yeah where i went like to different countries and shit like amsterdam portugal uh where else i go london uh a bunch of weird as places like in europe it was it was hell of fun like european audiences is 10 times better than

the u.s yeah they're okay this is funny because i can relate to it's just in the fitness industry like you know you you have things here and it seems like everyone's kind of like they like you but they kind of don't like you because they kind of want to be in your position and then in Europe they're like they're just all love.

Yeah, that's the best way to put it. Everybody in that audience looking at you like, I can do this. He's hard and shit, but I kind of like. Yeah, I can do this shit.

Yeah, they're too cool. So like when you go to Europe, they don't give a fuck. They never see Americans. Yeah. So they're freaking out when they see. They're jumping up, energy crazy.

So it's like, yeah, I like performing overseas. Is there anyone that you've met as an artist or like a, you know, Celebrity that you've been, like, excited to meet or anyone that you're excited to still meet? Um, I met Drake. Oh, that's dope. What was that like?

That was a dope moment for me. Where'd you meet him at? I met him at Beyonce birthday party. Oh, shit. Yeah. I met everybody, bro. I didn't met everybody at this point. Yeah.

But I never met Drake. Like, I go out and I see niggas everywhere, but I never met him. And I'm like, bro, this is my favorite artist and shit. Like, so I just, that was my first time seeing him. I'm like, damn, I got to say something to this nigga. yeah so top five rappers for you top five um i'll say drake yeah this is they're people gonna get me yeah i don't give a fuck it is what it is like i ain't i ain't no fake nigga like on some real shit i didn't grow up listening to older rappers i know they're gonna be like what about

tupac yeah it's like bro like i was born the the the year that tupac passed like i wasn't i wouldn't you know what i'm saying i ain't grow up in that era you feel me so I would say um Drake also too fuck what people are saying people always talk shit yeah I don't get one of the day I'll sit up here and tell you a deal I'm gonna do it is what it is but not I would say Drake future young thug in like the top three me man um I would say uh I might miss I'm gonna miss somebody for sure you see I like juice. Yeah, juice hard, but I'm gonna put, I'm gonna put, let me think, let me see.

Damn, see, when it gets, when it gets dicey. When you get to that four and five, they're like, why you ain't saying him? Yeah, yeah, let me say, let me see, let me see, I would say, just got to fire it. Yeah, I'm gonna just say it. Let me see, because I ain't gonna lie, bro, I really listen to myself a lot. Like I listen to it. Oh, shit, okay. On some real shit.

I ain't going to say me because that's lame And motherfuckers would be like Oh, anybody say that But I ain't going to say me Oh, I'm tripping Caya West, right? Yeah And then I would say

Gunna Damn I ain't gonna lie I fuck with Gunna heavy Even after all the shit Yeah Fuck all that right I ain't got nothing to do with me

Yeah Why do you think people are so like I mean I understand this idea But also like people Are like so crazy on the internet About this like snitching shit that it's like all of a sudden the music is just gone like everyone's like this music is trash now you don't really i don't because you don't really know internally i feel like

niggas that's in that whole situation in that case they can speak on it and they can see what they want to say but like fans y'all niggas don't know what's going on like you don't really know what's going on internally just like with my situation with the drama that's been going on right y'all don't know what's really going on yeah so it's like you can't sit here and judge off that shit and i'm the type of niggie like if i fuck with you i fuck with you i fuck with you You know what I mean? I ain't got nothing to do with me. And Gunner is like a nigger that really embraced me on some artist shit.

Like when I met him, we did a song. It's called Elon Musk. And, you know, when I met him, just a real dude, you know what I mean? Yeah. You know, he was cool. Yeah. Speaking of Elon Musk, that's the one guy that I really want to meet as far as like a celebrity or a person.

You know, no one else really that I'm excited. I made a whole song about him. I'll tweet it at him and everything. He never hit me back. Damn, fuck that. Fuck him Yeah it was on Twitter too Was it Twitter recently

No I dropped the song like last year You gotta hit it on Twitter again bro Yeah yeah Because he's been on that shit Like he's on Twitter like every day I think I'm gonna try again I'm gonna try again I'm gonna just spam him and see if he's it

You should I know He had to hear it at this point though I'm sure he did I'm gonna see Yeah he plays hard again I'd love to get him on the podcast man I know they did him on full send They didn't have me on they fucking played me on that one

For real yeah bro That's crazy Fucked up it's all good Fuck it So you're thinking about starting a podcast Yeah I am Yeah I think I'd be a good host

What would it be Like around music Or just around life Or Just anything Like same shit you're doing Yeah You know

Probably come up with something fun to do Yeah While I'm doing it But I don't know I've been thinking about it I've really I've really been thinking hard about it I just don't want to get too deep into it

Because I'm really like I'm extremely be passionate about music yeah so I kind of be holding off of like doing shit like auditions and shit because I know I can fuck around take off in the acting world yeah and it's like I don't want to take away from my music yet like I really want to see if I can really make this shit pop but you would get more into acting it seems in in the future I feel like because acting takes a lot of time oh yeah like just being around my girl and shit and just seeing how how much work that shit is and, like, being on set for two, three months

in the middle of nowhere. You're all day. All day. It's like, that shit is real work. So it's like, I know I ain't going to have time for no music. Yeah. So you'd have to get the music. You'd have to, like, kind of stamp it first

before you go and play over there. Yeah, I want to super stamp it before I start dipping and dabbing into that industry. YouTube is like, do that shit in my sleep. Yeah. So it's like, I don't see no point of stopping that. And you know what the money like. Yeah, YouTube's amazing, bro.

Yeah, it's the best job in the world. I was like, why the fuck would I stop? Yeah. It's honestly a blessing. And it's crazy. This stuff, too, though, the podcast trips me out because it's like, I was talking to someone about this the other day. Like, I literally get to sit here and, like, talk to people who are super interesting

and, like, learn about them and, like, share it. And then that's a way of living for me, which is such a crazy concept. Yeah, no, that's dope. It's really, really cool. You're a good host, too, man. I appreciate it. Yeah, you're doing good. Thank you.

Sure. So, as far as, like, life and just shit in general outside of music, outside of, like, content you make do you do you do anything that people wouldn't know that you do like like do you meditate do you focus on like mental health is it like do you focus on like physical health like are you active in the like are you doing like are you doing anything that people wouldn't know that you do like that you don't put out on the internet like you crushing mushrooms and like i have start eating mushrooms i don't do it like often i do yeah yeah microdose not like crazy doses all the time because that's i'm i tweaked a couple times i ain't oh yeah i have to bray i didn't see

melted faces and everything I didn't see some shit I ain't gonna lie but it's dope though because bro I eat a mushroom and I get to crying and shit bro I don't cry at all yeah I don't never cry bro it's like it really take your whole ego away

yeah opens you out yeah and it's like bro like I ate a mushroom in Hawaii I never told this story bro I ate a mushroom in Hawaii right and you know how mushroom you're supposed to be away type of shit like you're supposed to be dolo in the cut with your homies,

people you love and all that shit. I'm at the beach and it's like fans coming up to me, but I'm like tweaking, bro. That's a lot. I felt like, true. I felt like I was on Hollywood Boulevard,

bro. I'm like, like you on the sidewalk? That's what I'm saying, bro. I was tripping. So I had to like, I was low-key snapping on fans

and shit on accident though. Like it wouldn't even me trying to like be mean. It's just I'm tweaking out and they talk about pictures and shit. And my fucking vision is everywhere Like, it was crazy, bro And I had to like sit down

But for some reason, like I was feigning to be in the forest Like you ever felt like that? Yeah Bro, I was feigning to be by some trees and shit And I'm like, bro, I really need to find like the trees I need really need, I'm telling everybody I'm around Like bro, please take me to the forest

You know how you've been Hawaii? Yeah You been Hawaii? Yes, yeah Yeah, so you know how they forest is like beautiful it's crazy it looked like fucking avatar and shit yeah i'm on the beach at the time around a bunch of people tweaking out like a motherfucker like i'm so uneasy this the worst trip ever so then i finally get to leave right and they and i get to a forest and bro i felt like i was in

heaven like it was the craziest feeling like i did not want to leave like i was in the forest for like a hour two hours they're like come on let's leave i'm like just wait just trying to see here bro it's crazy like I fuck with the I fuck with mushrooms I ain't gonna lie I ain't gonna lie yeah I do too it's like it's it really makes you understand like none of this shit really matter yeah you know I mean it's just what helps you disconnect from the ego of like your your relationship to like how you think people should view you or how you're you know like this whole idea of like am I good enough and all this shit and it kind of just makes you be like I'm just me facts just human like I'm just yeah I'm here just like everybody else and the could the

interesting thing about shrooms to me is always that like it's always how it is you're just not your perception is not seeing it that way and you complicated with all this other stuff because like we're just in our you know our conscious mind going like this but with the mushrooms it opens up the subconscious and it just like allows you to just be more open in general without all those filters of like ego related to like I said how people view me or how you want people to view you and it just it just makes you more like oh this is okay and the interesting part about it I was saying is like if you could realize that is how your life can always be it's just hard for people to make that connection and it's hard for people to let that sustain because it's so easy to get

caught up in the negative shit or what someone's saying or like how you know oh my I'm I good enough and that's the real reason why I really like mushrooms is because like over time the more that I've like experienced them and then the microdosing obviously I'm not saying I'm taking crazy amounts every day that's not I don't think that's sustainable you do every day no no no no so like what I'll do is typically like I'll take like 0.5 to like one for like a month and then stop for months so i'll do it like kind of just therapeutically where i'm taking like micro doses and then i'll stop i don't take it every day all the time so what do that do for you because i just eat the raw mushroom and shit yeah no so i'm doing that as well but when i take

them in those amounts i grind them up so that they're it's like an actual weighted amount so it's very specific and i'm not just taking like a bunch of mushrooms um because i obviously have done that where i've taken like you know 3.5 4 grams and i'm just like i'm on a trip and it's like six hours and it's the whole day, but I'm not doing that every day. That's completely unsustainable. I'm taking the micro doses that just you get this effect, this overall sense of, you know, on the mushrooms, like, when you're either coming down or coming up, and you're just like, oh, man, everything's good.

And you're not all visual yet. You just feel good. And that's, you kind of get that little bit of sense while you're doing it. And like I said, overall, you get closer to that, that just idea, like you're able to make it more real more often than not, that like everything's okay, kind of like no matter what. And it kind of allows you just to be more present to just kind of continue to go forward with whatever you want to, like, achieve. Yeah.

Instead of complicating, like, where you're going to get to and how long it's going to take and all. And who thinks about what, about this. And because that's what we do. We complicate the shit out of everything. And it's like the people who get most success in their life are the ones who are able to, like, focus on their shit right now and block out all the noise and just go forward. And I think that's the thing that I've really gotten from it. Yeah, no, I got to get into the microdose and shit. Yeah.

Oh, that's game changing, man. Yeah, I got to try it. Have you done any other psychedelics? Nah, I'm scared. Yeah. I'm terrified. You heard ayahuasca? I heard it out, yeah.

Yeah, I've done that. How did it make you feel? That's intense. What happened? What happened to you? It's, I don't even know how to. It's so different because if you, if you've never done it, it's really hard to tell you what it's like. But just imagine, like, I guess I could relate it to mushrooms for you because you have that experience.

You know, and have you ever been in a mushroom. a mushroom trip and you're like you're like all right this is a little too much so imagine imagine you kind of like depending on the person because like I've done it a few times now and the second time was a lot more calm than the first time I think the first time I was really afraid of like what was going to happen so I had this built up tension to like is this going to be too much and like I hear all these bad crazy things and things happen to people and I worried about all that so when it hit me it was like everything was good like imagine my high was like this everything felt like really good it was like damn it's pretty good and then it's almost like I blinked and I was up here and it was

very scary because I was like well this is way too much it was because he didn't feel like this like oh it's getting more and then it's getting less it was like oh this is pretty good and then it was like 10,000 out of like you know it was like 100 down here it's like 10,000 I was like oh fuck and my my brain was just like going crazy and it like took me really like I don't even know how long because your reference of time is completely gone so it's like mushrooms yeah and so then you're like I don't know how long I was in that moment where I was like just trying to calm myself down but once I kind of did it it it's definitely the most like it's the most confronting like it like all the things that you've been stressing about it's like it puts it all really really like in your face it doesn't really allow you to like look around it so you have to you have to kind of like work on those like focus and think about those things and like really go through them and go like well why am I feeling this way why do I worry about this why is this a problem it's okay and you have to go through it. And it's a little bit tough

because sometimes those things can be really tough to go through. And, you know, you could be really emotional because you're like forced to deal with things. But I think that's why it's so healing. So you cry and shit. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but like you get done and you're like, oh, fuck. I needed that. Like in your perspective. Did it change you a little bit? Yeah.

In a good way. Yeah. Yeah, definitely, man. I might fuck with it. I might do it. It's supposed to be scary. Yeah. You know, it's like those things.

It's like, like everything that's tough in our lives. Obviously, we know the shit that makes us better. The shit that when it's tough, like, we fucking spend time. We get through it. We get better. We grow. How do it like, like, how do you take it? So it's like a plant that they like, like a root, a plant that they basically

cooked down into like a kind of like a viscous, like a shot almost. Like you can drink it and different, you know, different types of containers, but it's basically like a thicker liquid. And it doesn't taste too good. yeah that sounds scary but it but it's it's like it's dope man you got to do it in the right setting you're like like a like a tito or shaman someone who's actually like putting you through it you're not just like drinking it with your boys chilling you know because the whole ceremonially done and so what they do when you're tweaking out with the shaman doing

shit is like it's okay it's okay so he's taking it with you no yeah he did yeah they did so they're kind of like in the same the same page um obviously like because you i talked to him probably like hey this is where i'm at so so he kind of probably had some of like how I might react how I've reacted to other things in the past so like they kind of aware like you know I guess the thing that I remember him saying was like you wanted this

and it was true like this is what I was coming to do was to try to deal with this was try to get through those things in my life that I've like held on to so you gotta go to do it like you could do I do it privately so I had someone just come here and do it with me you did it at the crib

yeah damn yeah so you can just do it privately your vision be fucked up your what your vision uh it does does give you visuals, but it's, it's, it's not as intense. Mushrooms are a little more intense, I would say, visuals. Okay. It's more like you close your eyes and you're like, you're seeing it.

You're like, you're seeing stuff. Like, it's crazy, bro. Oh my God. You love it, dude. Yeah, I ate mushrooms at night. So I got- Mushrooms at night? This shit keeps you up then.

Yeah, I was up all night, literally all night. But I was like seeing shit like. Like recently, have you done it recently? Probably like three months ago. Yeah. Something like that, two, three months ago. But yeah, I was seeing shit, bro, like. But it's cool.

Like, I'm more comfortable with mushrooms. Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah, I might try that shit. I mean, if you could do that, you could do this. It's just, like, knowing that it's just different. It's completely different. But the outcome is like, it's greater for sure.

Yeah, I all fuck with, like, the natural shit, you know, like plants and fucking mushrooms and shit. I ain't going to, I never did, like, no crazy, like, chemical drugs. Yeah, no, I'm not a fan. I ain't trying to get fried out here, you know. No, no, no. Fuck no, bro. Those, I mean, there's so many drugs that are just, like, I like psychedelics. I like that, like you said, the plant medicine.

This kind of stuff is nice, but yeah, that the, you know, cocaine, all this other shit's insane. Yeah, yeah, motherfuckers get frat, like motherfuckers. Rewing their life with that shit. That's what I'm saying. Well, did you drink? Yeah. I don't drink like that. Recently, I haven't taken, you know, I have a little drink here and there.

Yeah. But I kind of got into the wine. I'm with my grown man and shit now. So I'll be drinking red wine and shit, now. It's cool. I don't know why people, fuck wine. I, okay, I like wine. sometimes but I'm 33

and I still don't really like I can't get into it trying to tell you bro next time you go out to dinner get some red wine just ask for the sweetest they got they're gonna bring you some shit just drink it you know what I'm saying you just feel yeah you just feel it you just feel like like you're doing

something it feels more classy than liquor feels cleaner and you don't get headaches well I used to get bad I mean when I was young I well when I drink I'll probably drink too much when I was younger.

I shouldn't have been drinking it. Because I feel like the sulfates and wine will give you headaches. Yeah, but you drink a couple glasses of some good wine. You'd be straight. Wine is low-key better than liquor. But you were just in Italy

and I feel like the wine there is better because there's no preservatives there. So you're probably feeling it out there like this is dope. No, I drink, but I drink wine even before that. Oh, out here. Yeah, I've been drinking wine. So I just started like

a few months ago type shit, but it's like I fuck with it. Better than liquor. It just feels better. Yeah. So your girl makes music too, right? Mm-hmm. Would you guys ever make music together? Yeah, we have before. But she ain't got no solo music out.

So once her solo music come out, you know, probably makes some shit together. Is she working on that kind of stuff too? Yeah, she got some fire-ass music. Yeah. I think she's going to be one of the biggest artists in the world. Really? For sure, 100%. 100%.

Damn. On some Adele shit. like really that's massive i ain't gonna lie i'm not even being biased like i tell her this all the time like your shit is like next level because she can really sing like yeah i can i can harmonize and shit you throw a little auto tune on me and shit you know what i'm saying yeah yeah i get a gold record i could do my shit you know but her shit she can sing acapella yeah she can sing sing sing damn it's crazy but um no her shit is gonna be next level i'm excited yeah that's cool that's really cool And it seems like, you know, once you conquer this music stuff more,

you probably want to get into acting, like you were saying earlier. Yeah, like, I... What roles would you do? I want to do a horror movie so bad. That's like my bucket list. Why? I don't know. Like, I want to be in like a Jordan Peel horror film.

Like Novers or something? Yeah, like some crazy shit. Like, I know how I kill it too. I know it would be a big deal because everybody that knows of me or know me would be like, damn, this motherfucker really ass. acting this bitch you know what I'm saying so that's kind of like what I want to do I want to get into a horror film um maybe some comedy or some I don't know yeah I've always like to ask people this who like have have like really great success and who've done things and you've done a lot of things

like that you just like you wanted to do them and you did them and you just keep going did you before you did all of this stuff did you believe like when you were younger before you had any or you even close to doing this that like there was more for you like did you have that sense what you mean like did you believe that i don't know like i remember being younger and thinking like damn i don't want to like do normal shit like i want to do something great i want to try to do something different i want to like did you have that sense of yourself yeah yeah for sure like when i was younger like i used to i used to have a job a lot of people haven't worked you work job before yeah i have yeah yeah yeah so i used to work um t j max croakers work those jobs

jobs and just working there it's just like I know this ain't it I noticed it can't be like yeah I was working on his nose yeah but like I know I ain't fin to be putting these sensors on these clothes for the rest of my life you know and it's like I'm not going to be in no cash year all my life and I just feel like oh no I feel like nine to fives is the easy way out in the way because it takes a lot to get to this point that I'm at that you at you know it takes a lot of creativity you know you really your own boss type shit yeah so it's like you really got to switch your mindset versus a nine to five and you got it all set there for you all right pull up this time do this and that yeah yeah and it's like you know you're not really thinking for yourself for real you just

put you just showing up and doing what you're told to do which is I feel like it's easier than creating your own path and your own wave and shit of course so it's like um I don't know just working at those jobs I just knew that wasn't it and I just knew like I wanted to do more. Even when I went to college, before I got to college, I knew I wasn't going to finish. Yeah. I went to college just because I wanted to go to college and experience it.

And my homies was going to college and shit. And I'm like, let me go freshman year, which I don't regret, because that's really how I blew up in college. So it's like I just wanted to gain those social skills. And then, but in the back of my head, I knew I wasn't going to stay there. Like, what did you think you were going to do before at all? I just knew, like, So my first YouTube check

was $200 when I was working at T.J. Max. As soon as I got that, I quit. You're like, this is it. I made it. Yeah, because I'm like, if I can make $200 doing a fucking video, that means I can make $2,000. Yeah. If I can make $2,000, I mean I can make $20,000. I make $200,000. You know what I'm saying?

So I'm just thinking like that, I'm like, if I really quit this shit that I'm working eight hours at and put all my time into this video shit, I know I can take this to the next level. So I'm with some $200,000. to $700 in my next check. And it just went up from there. So I'm in college making $700 freshman year a month.

Then it got to $1,000. And that's a lot in college. I ain't a lie. It sounds very little now, but in college where your shit really paid for, obviously taking out loans and shit, but that's $1,000. I'm just putting them in my pocket. Yeah.

So it's like, I don't know. It got to a point where I don't know how to explain it for real. But why? So my question to you about this. This is why do you think people have so much fear around like foregoing the traditional like nine to five or foregoing like, you know, that job that's stable to try something that like probably a lot of them really want to do? Because that's the thing. A lot of people watch this content and watch these, these podcasts and just stuff in general. And a lot of people like, I think I don't know if it's like 80% of people now want to be like a social creator.

Like they want to be on the internet somehow. But why do you think people are so afraid to take that leap? And why were you not afraid? Like for you to go $200, I'm good. If I can do 200, I can make this. Like, I understand what you're saying. But to take the leap, though, away from something that's, like, solid to be like, fuck it, I'm just going to try it.

Like, why do you think it's hard for people to get that mentality? Because more people go, well, this is safe. Yeah, people are too safe. That's what I feel like. I feel like people that say, oh, this is solid. They plan it too safe. And you feel like, oh, I got to make sure I can pay my bills and I can do this and that. Like, you got motherfuckers that spend every dollar.

that they got to fucking follow a dream you know what I mean and then you know it's a hit or miss if you hit you good type shit so it's like I feel like just people is not risky enough I was very risky

like I'm like okay I'm gonna quit this this job why do you think you were risky I just wanted more like I just I just didn't want to live like that like Pontiac Michigan is like we don't even have a mall

like it's a very small city and it's like it's the hood you feel me so it's like it ain't nowhere that you really want to be and then when I was younger in 2014 my brother passed so it's like that kind of really

put shit in perspective for me I'm like damn like I can't fucking can't lay it like this you know what I mean I'm not gonna how did he pass you know yeah yeah so it's like it is what it is

so that made you feel like I gotta figure this out yeah yeah that kind of really put some fire into me like that really put me in position to really start going up because it was like I'm like man this is this is this could be me you know what I mean like if I fuck around and just stay here and you know what I'm saying I can fuck around and just get stuck in this city it's a lot of motherfuckers that I grew up with with the high school where they still doing the same shit it's like I don't know how niggas do it it's just that's the

question right that's the thing I'm trying to figure out like and obviously to inspire people if they see this, I think that they can do it as well. Like, why do you think there are certain people who just say like, because even your circumstances and saying, seeing and experiencing what you experienced me, like, I don't want this to be my life. I want to move away from this. And you were in it, but now you're not

completely different circumstances because you made that decision. Why do you think it's hard for people to just to understand that they can do it too? I don't know, man. I just feel like people are just not risky enough. People don't believe in their self. I feel like it starts with you believing in yourself.

It starts with you really saying, okay, I can do this shit. I can do the impossible. You know what I mean? So it's like, I don't know. It's a whole, it's a mental thing where you really got to just sit down and be like, okay, I want to make it to the millions. You know what I mean? I feel like there's just some people that just aren't different. Yeah, they just, two people too safe.

That's what it is. That's what they did. Like, motherfuckers wait for you to do it and then they want to do it. They don't want to be the first to do it. I was the first to do it, especially from my city. from my whole family like I was the first to do it and then after I did it

you know my family started doing it so it's like that's how I did it you know I feel like when you're the first to do something you get the best of the

you get the best of it type shit I see yeah that makes sense so you know I'm in a good position right now because I started this shit and you and you love it more

than even when you started it like you still have the same passion for like all this content creation music everything or has it change at all. My passion really lies with music. I'm not going to lie.

That's my real passion is, but I love doing YouTube for the person that's watching right now, they want to do it too. You know what I'm saying? They want to get inspired. Like, I do a lot of inspirational, motivational talk somehow in between my blogs and shit. And it's a lot of people that come up to me and be like, bro, you changed my life, bro. Like, man, I just made a million dollars, bro.

I made my first million dollars now. You know what I'm saying? like people that really grow up watching me and shit and that's what i really like enjoy from it at this point like you know the money great obviously but it's like that's that's where i really you know what i'm saying that's that's where the real enjoyment come from yeah i get it um there's a couple more things before before you go but um is what's what this like voice is it fake to fake voice no yeah yeah it's like clearly a fake voice you got to tell the truth bro that's not your real voice it is though that's the crazy part yeah that's my real voice

control it's actually really impressive yeah a lot of people think like it's like edits and shit but it's real yeah so it's like i don't know i just get insecure about the shit yeah i don't really like talking about it too much okay so you use the regular voice just because it's more like it's more yeah it's like more applicable yeah it's more relatable they're like oh he's like it's cool i make music in his voice but like if i was it like yeah it's like it's cool i make music in his voice but like if i was like really use this boy's motherfuckers to be like he don't need that don't even match him yeah so i don't really like using their career i just see yeah i keep that shit tuck i don't really like showing people but i fuck with you so i'm gonna use it yeah i appreciate

it yeah man um do yo did you get any audience questions from natalie oh nice you sent send to me all right so all right so at the end of every episode uh we got questions from uh the viewer so So we're going to do three real quick. And if you guys want to send you your questions, you can send them at Asproutalk at gmail.com. We appreciate the love. So this guy said, I'm 22, and I've been in relationship for nine months. And my girlfriend is great and amazing, but I feel like something's missing. She's super loyal.

My family loves her. She loves working out and eating healthy. Even with all that, I still feel empty and don't know whether I should stick it out and try to work things out or to move on. I feel bad because she is the sweetest person you ever meet. meet and it hasn't done anything wrong. That's that's dismal. It's so dismal, bro. Um, I mean, you're 22. It's honestly sounds like you're not that interested. That's what that sounds like. Nah, I think he, I think he on some shit where he want to focus on himself. Yeah, I mean, that's what I think the underlying problem is based on what are you saying. Yeah,

I feel like he probably not in the position he is where he wants to. to be in life yeah he's like yeah he felt like he's gonna fuck around get married type shit and he ain't ready for that i mean i don't really it didn't really there's not really a question here it's like he was just kind of saying there was no question mark it was just kind of like this is what's happening um i mean at the end of the day man you got to follow your heart like if you feel like it's not for you or it's it's not gonna work now and then bro i mean move on maybe if you can revisit it later revisit it later but sometimes giving things time to like to cook to that for yourself can make more sense

if you're going to come back into a relationship. But, I mean, at 22, it's hard to... That's very young, though. Yeah. Super young. Yeah. Do what you want to do, man. Yeah.

Okay, so I got another one. All right. Hey, Brad and listener. Listener. Longtime pod listener, a huge supporter of the brand. Keep it up. My question is pretty basic, but it seems complicated. I'll be 22 soon and recently,

like 22-year-olds. And recently went out to a club and met a girl. It's getting good. Okay. Not the best place to meet a girl. Before I read the rest of this, I'll say that first off. Our friends kind of put us together, and we did end up hooking up that night. Okay, we exchanged socials, and we've been talking very lightly ever since.

However, she lives a few hours away from me during the college semester, but lives fairly close to me when she's back home. My question is, how do I keep a conversation going with her, even though there isn't too much to talk about? I don't want to be overbearing with questions to her, but I also want to keep her invested and I can't tell if she is yet neither do I want

to ask the wrong one and be her dry what the fuck neither do I want to ask the wrong one and her be dry oh he's talking about questions he don't want her to be dry so this guy's just asking for game right now so he's 22

you met her girl at the club they hooked up that night and he's trying to figure out how to keep her engaged like with him as far as like and she lived two hours away she in college yeah they must be they're probably around the same age I'd say so she she's in college and he he isn't or what I think he is as well but they don't go to the same yeah yes they go somewhere else yeah she probably talking to somebody else yeah I mean let's keep it real like let's just keep it real yeah now she in college she's getting hit she's talking to somebody else for sure right I wouldn't even if if a girl wants you bro they're gonna they're gonna be

on you type shit they should be the one trying to figure out the conversation not you yeah so it's like I would say brother you think that you think that in all cases I think of if as a man if you did especially if he already hit him it's like if you already hit him and she ain't on you you know what I mean you didn't do a good enough so it's like she probably get hit by somebody else at this point yeah because you ain't you know you weren't memorable enough yeah if I was him I just say fuck it Charged to the game Go back to the club

Yeah Meeting girls at the club Is not the best idea That's what I'm saying Especially you meet her at the club And hit them It's like she didn't did that before Yeah for sure

Like do you think Like I've always wondered this Like I mean I kind of know the answer I want your perspective though But do you think people go to the club Anything other than trying to like fuck Like no one's going to the club Trying to like create a good relationship

That's I mean I don't know Because I feel like Can you meet a good girl at the club I don't think so You can't, I think you can, especially if, like, she with all her girlfriends, you never know. They probably just dragged her out, and, you know what I'm saying? She probably don't go out that much.

Now, if it's a reoccurring female that you see every weekend and she in the club, then obviously she's doing something in that motherfucker. Yeah. But it's like, I don't know. It's a lot of girls that go to the club to really just vibe with their home girls type shit. You actually believe that? Yeah, believe it. No.

Or they got boyfriends, right? They go to the club to vibe with their. girls they get drunk and then they go home to their boyfriend damn that's how i think i don't think every girl go to the club to get hit i don't think so not not in 2023 it's too much i feel like it's more so 2023 think so yeah i don't know that's like i don't know it depends on the the caliber of female you feel me yeah what type of female we're talking about yeah i see what you're saying yeah we're talking about you know different calibers to this shit yeah okay that's fair one more one more question it says i really need help long story short i'm in love with my friend parenthesis female okay

okay uh i've been going to co-op school with her i've been going to co-op school for the past three years and i don't think she has what is co-op school i don't know i've been going to co-op school for the past few years and i don't think she has any idea we've been sitting together ever since we met And we've only been, how old is this motherfucker sitting together ever since we met? And we've only been taking classes together so we could be together. But around last year, right before I was going to ask her to junior prom, oh, she's young. She got a boyfriend and they have been unhappily together ever since. Yo, this is funny.

Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to laugh at this. It's just funny the way he wrote this. She always tells me about how much she hates him and hates the thought of them being together. still hasn't broken up with him she often voices about how much it revolts her at the thought of them having a relationship beyond boyfriend and girlfriend and i still have feelings for her but i don't know what to do bro what this guy tripped me out with this question yeah um leave her what do you she's with some dude what do you mean she's she got a boyfriend i don't even

know how to answer that question but she wants this girl obviously and she got a boyfriend who's saying like she's not fucking with him but she's clearly still with him he got a chance though if a girl coming if a girl really if a girl is telling you about her issues and her relationship that means she low-key wants you yeah that's that's actually true yeah because in reality bro like it ain't no such thing it's like male best friends like yeah as a as a man it's like you know what I'm saying you want to you attract it to female so it's kind of like you know what I mean even though you're friends like you it's really no male best friends is a bullshit that doesn't exist holding back temptation that's all it is yeah or like you didn't get what you thought so

you sticking around and yeah and she feels the same way so it's like somewhere in her heart somewhere in her soul she likes him too yeah he just got to be a man and make the first move yeah that's what it sounds like yeah yeah that's some good advice for sure that is that's very real for sure yeah dude I mean just be like I don't know I guess I would tell her like you'll fuck this dude and if she says fuck him and goes with you then there you go it's game wasn't meant for him right that's it I got one more question we get off here yeah yeah go for it so I want to um I want to get deep in the gym like I'm trying to like really cut up type shit yeah like really cock d I just seen Creed and shit you just watch Creed you're like

just like these niggies I ain't feeling to be going to the move You know what I'm saying You ain't fin to be taking y'all shirt off While I'm at the movies When my girl is shit Yeah Yeah, I think is all I cut up and shit

So I'm like I need to get in the gym And really cut up So I'm trying to figure out like What I need to do As far as what Because my shit I got a good foundation Like I'm good

It's just I'm not a gym head You know So it's like I'm trying to figure out Like what's the one or two workouts That I should be doing like consistently every single day i got a gym membership and shit but it's like what do i need to do when i go in there to really like lock in and how long it's going to take yeah uh first off

you come to my gym i just opened it and it's you know um i could put you through a workout so i can like show you some stuff to like just to do um but it's hard for me to tell you right now there's just one thing you could do every day because then it would it would get kind of like that's too much to do the same thing every day but I will say that most I would just we're talking about most important exercises to like to never skip is going to be like squatting deadlifting and pull-ups and benching obviously but at the same time like the deadlifting the squatting the pull-ups is going to is going to do 10 times more for you than like pretty much everything else if you challenge yourself at those lifts then obviously the diet is important for this muscle building

whatever you want depending on like your goal but yeah man I'd love to, I could put you through some stuff and show you what to do. And then you just, if you can just continue it, you'd be solid. And then if you're able to keep the diet, like kind of, I mean, you could fuck off every once and while. You don't have to eat solid every single day all the time. It's just more like 80% of time more often than not. And you'll start to see that progress.

Okay. But yeah, it's hard. It's hard for me to just give you like a, this is it. Just do this one thing because it just doesn't really work that way. Yeah. And it also, everything works to a degree to a point. And then it kind of stops. and you kind of have to like look at what you had been doing

and then go, okay, how could I do I do? Am I do? Should I do more reps, more weight? You know, well, how should I change up my exercises? And because like I said, everything works and it stops. And then it slows down. You kind of have to like learn how to continue to change it. But I can give you something that you can just kind of do for time

and then you'll be able to see progress and then come back, revisit change it. And if you could say consistent with the food portion, which is probably the easier part because you just kind of get a, few ideas of what is solid what you like and kind of mix and match it you'd be solid but you just have to be consistent just like how you are making music whatever you're good at YouTube you just do it and you just it's like every day how long you be in the gym um typically like probably like an hour and a half is all you really need I mean I'd be in the gym like probably a couple hours because I go film content I bullshit a little bit but but like training like an hour hour and a half at

most okay all right I mean it's like the thing about this is like the thing about gym man is like it's just gonna like you know we talk about mushrooms and stuff earlier for your brain like the gym is going to do everything else for your body like in a really positive way that's going to make you better at everything else so it just always makes sense to have that be a part of your routine even if obviously we're talking like you want to fit some role or if you're thinking about acting in future trying to look a certain way whatever obviously that that structure of your training may change a little bit but overall life like it just makes sense to be in the gym no matter what you know like a part of your day it's just going to your bones crack do my bones crack like your elbow

type shit. No. My elbow be cracking. You think that's from like lack of the gym? Yeah, it's like being a bitch. Straight? No, I'm fucking with you.

I don't know. It could be something. I don't know. My elbow will be cracking this shit and I'm like, damn. Well, that's probably from when you fucking beat up. Nick Wyatt. Yeah. I was there.

I saw that. Yeah, that was fun. That shit was fucking. Fuck, man. Wait, hold on before I get off. Yeah, yeah. How do you feel about the Jake Paul? fight. Oh, that's a good question. That's a good question. Um, well, I feel like he finally fought

like a real boxer. Um, and I think it kind of showed, you know, I mean, I thought for sure Jake was going to win just because like the way it goes. And because he didn't get, none of them got knocked out. I was like, oh, they're going to give it to Jake because Jake's worth way more money and thinking like business wise. But, uh, I mean, I think Jake's improved like tremendously. I just think like I don't know maybe if you look at all the other people he boxed they just weren't real boxers not really like ready or like skilled in that art yeah and it kind of showed like I could say when he bought even though Tommy's a real boxer but he's boxed also like and they do this typically for boxes and boxing in general where like they'll they'll have them

box like really like not great fighters to like build them up so they don't fuck their their you know because he's got a big name the fury name right you don't want to him be like one and two you want him to be like, you know, whatever and oh. So I understand how they play that game and they both play that game. And I think, I mean, what Jake's doing is incredible because it's like he's just, he's entertained or more than anything. But yeah, I don't know. What did you think about it? I don't know. I feel like, he kept doing the same shit. He kept doing this. Yeah. I think it was a different type of ball game for him. Like I was waiting on that punch, but you can't really depend on that punch. Yeah, that one punch. Yeah, but if he would have

hit him it would have been over it's just Tommy loke I think Tommy Fury got lucky in a way like he didn't get hit by that but his he definitely got skill for sure yeah I didn't expect him to win well all the other guys he boxed like they weren't moving they weren't like Tommy was like in there like like a boxer yeah he was moving jabbing hook in all the type of stuff I was like what the fuck I ain't expecting to be nice yeah he was the first two rounds I was like oh Jake's fucked I know like I was like if this go to distance I knew Jake was going to lose when they went to decision for sure I thought he wasn't just because of the money I thought you know what I'm saying like they can't rob you can't get robbed like when it's like too close yeah it was like that

was that was obviously Tommy Fury that won that for sure even besides the knockdown the knockdown to me wasn't even really like a knockdown yeah more so like a slip yeah but they counted in any way to like give you know he's had he had a chance at that point but I knew Tommy won That shit was just crazy But at the end of the day I don't think Jake can lose Yeah I don't think there is losing

Yeah like that's your show If he loses again though in a rematch I think it'll it's gonna It'll be bad For like the trajectory of it I think right now it doesn't matter I think right now he comes back If he could rematch and win

It's like same same Jake Paul Like number one type shit If he comes back and lose it's gonna be If I was Jake I would fight KSI That's the number one fight right now I wouldn't even do the rematch I would just try to fight KSai I didn't fight Tommy. Well, Tommy Fury, that's easy money, I guess. But I think him fighting Tommy

Fury would be low-key, like, a risk. That's what I'm saying. If he loses again, people are going to be like, oh, cool. Yeah, they ain't going to try to play him. That's what I was, I was saying the same thing. I was thinking that if he fights KSI right now, best possible, best possible payout, best possible everything. Yeah, I think he should fight KSI, then fight Tommy Fury. Yeah. Because I feel like KSI is KSI is great But that's a more like I think that's an easier fight for him type shit

For Jake yeah I don't know if KSI will do it I don't think KSI can beat Jake Paul I fuck with KSI though Yeah But I don't think he can I don't think he Because KSI haven't fought

No crazy motherfuckers And it's like every time I've seen him in the ring With all the other people He's he's beat him so quickly It's like he's not really getting tested You can't really see Like, you don't know how, because you got to think about it, bro, like, going eight rounds. Oh, my God.

When I fought Nate White, bro, I almost died in the third round. Nobody knew, bro. I was standing right there. Bro, I was dead. Like, if I was in the ring with somebody that really be throwing them motherfuckers. Yeah, you're going down there like, getting smack. They probably, you know what I'm saying? My rap career probably be fuck right now.

I ain't going to lie. Yeah, if you lost that, bro. That's what I'm saying. So it's like. You really, you really did put that on the line. I did. That was intense. Because, like, I was thinking, like, damn, if he gets beat up, it's going to be, like, really bad.

It's going to be over. You knew that. You said, fuck it. I knew it. I was like, man, I got to take that risk. Same thing. When we talked about the whole podcast, but you got to take risk, you know. And that shit benefited me.

Yeah. Chances make champions. But, yeah, if I was Jake, I'll fight KSI. That's a cool. That's a bigger fight. And it's easier. Yeah. You know, you got a better chance because Tommy, I think Tommy.

Fury, he'll beat KSI. Really? I think Tommy Ferry, Lokee, nice. I ain't gonna lie. I wasn't expecting that. I think he nice for real. So I think KSI and Jake Paul

is like a more equal fight. I think the last fight that they'll make that Jake will make will be against Logan. That'd be late. I feel like they'll do it. That would be massive.

Like, no matter what happens if they fought, it'd be insane. That'd be late. That'd be crazy. I think it's going to happen. They for sure are going to do that shit. They're smart as fuck. But you can't expect them to really be fighting each other, though, really.

I don't know. You think Jake Paul and knock his brother out? Yeah, I think they would love to fucking. That would be fucked up. Yeah, but I think they're so competitive. Yeah. You know, I think their whole life, they've been competitive with each other. I think if they get in the ring, they'd like, this is like, it's a little personal.

They let it out, dude. Yeah, that's cool. It'd be cool to see. I'd love to see it. Would you ever box again? Yeah. It depends, though. Like, I don't know.

It's, it's dead. vacation like my the fight that I did only trained for two weeks I trained for two weeks and them two weeks was hard really like it was like and then like the morning of my fight the day of my fight I went to the strip club you're hosting I had a hosting I had to go like I'm making money so I had a host and I'm up to 5 a.m. in Miami yeah in Miami got sick like I was fighting with a cold so it's like cold hit you harder huh yeah Yeah, so if I box again, I feel like I got to really, really take it serious and really like lock in being in the camp for like six weeks, eight weeks at least

and really do it because obviously they don't want me to fight somebody that's decent. Yeah. So, which Nate White was pretty decent. He hit me one good time. Yeah. He got me one good time, but that was it. And he just looked afraid to throw his hands. That's what it looked like.

Yeah, I ain't going to sit here and shit on him because he, you got to. he could be decent if he really work at it which I'm pretty sure he stopped training and he stopped boxing too probably said fuck it yeah yeah but nah that was a decent opponent for me

I ain't gonna lie yeah he was cool he just not experienced and like throwing punches and winning the judge is over yeah he's fighting a little scared I think nice guy good guy um

well I say man I appreciate you coming I appreciate you sharing and like genuinely for and we should get to the gym I'll uh we'll set something up for you to like just like fully understand. Yeah, hit me. So you said like a little path.

I pull up man, you know, trying to get my workout on, trying to get cock diesel, trying to get like you and shit. Yeah, yeah. I appreciate you man, for real. Sure, bro. Very good to meet you too, officially.

Yeah.