RAWTALK - Debating SNEAKO & Myron

Episode Date: May 15, 2024

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Well, I'm on YouTube. He's canceled. Yeah. Kind of lame. Cancel life is good, huh? Well, our Instagrams are, we got wiped at the same time. Yeah. Really?

It was a big one, yeah. Us and Jackson Hinkle. Yeah. We all got wiped the same day, fresh, too. Do you think they're just like, they just go these accounts, get rid of them? And who's they? You really want to go there? You really want to go there?

We can go there. Like. I mean, I'll dance around it. It's the same people that you can. caught on that pedophile stream with oh my god that's not dancing around it no it's not dancing around it oh man just google the head of instagram damn adam assari yeah fuck yeah god this is gonna be tough but it's like i gotta have this conversation you guys you guys did you guys on this it's so hard why is this a thing why is this have to feel like it's a thing that you can't discuss openly like

that's what's so frustrating about it well if you want your youtube then you can't. Tim Poole is having that problem right now. Like he wants to have certain people on, but he knows that if he talks about that, then he's going to get demonetized, like fresh and fit. Like they make an example.

They happen to me two years ago. Yeah. Same thing with PBD. He wants to speak about this as well. PBD has a really successful podcast and employs a lot of people, but it's just like he's kind of stuck. You know,

if he talks about this, he's going to not be able to employ all these people. So. Yeah. It's such a weird fucking thing, man. Yeah. When I'm on other people's platforms, I'm careful.

You know what I mean? I don't want to put them in weird spots. So I always kind of like just feel them out. If they're like, if you about it, I just stay away. Because like, you know, I don't want to mess anybody. I don't want to mess anyone's platform up. Yeah, I get it. So it's just, it's kind of weird though.

It's just weird that like overall just seems like there's, I guess, less free speech that's okay than something that's more okay than others. That's why I love Rumble, dude. Talk about all this stuff on Rumble. But like, yeah, on certain platforms, you can't do it, man. So it is what is unfortunately. raw talk on rumble bro I just it's like

so imagine I did that right would that then just they would turn just see that content and be like oh then remove them here that's possible it's possible it's always a risk if it goes like super super viral yeah you know

because this is how they get around it in America so like in other places right that don't have the same free speech protection that we have with the first amendment the government will just send you a letter hey this person is on your platform doing XYZ they don't care

but in America what they do is you got, like, lobbying organizations, like the ADL, media matters, et cetera, and they just write an article on you, and they'll, like, lobby to the platform, like, hey, are you aware that this individual is monetizing on your platform and they're putting out such and such rhetoric? And then that puts pressure on them, and they're like, oh, my God. So, and then they'll, like, you know, threaten to get pull advertisers or whatever, and that's how they control social media and these platforms in the United States. Like, they can't overtly do it because of First Amendment rights, but they do it through lobbying companies. And then at the end of the day, it's private

company so they can go ahead and do what they want anyway but they have that added layer of protection through these media organizations that are saying that they're trying to restrict hate speech or restrict any type of speech that might go against a certain agenda it's funny that myron says that when he goes on other platforms then he doesn't like he feels it out to make sure the one place where he feels fully unleashed where we see like the true myron is on my stream that's what media matters is people are touching about it dude so i'm like i don't want to put people in a weird situation so like i just like i'm like all right i'm just gonna you know how base can we get here so do you think it's all necessary though like what you guys do

sometimes you go a little hard someone's got to do it i mean i think we opened up over its window a lot yes last year we had a lot of conversation that were difficult now a lot of people are speaking about it but we were the first ones to really do it on a on a level that big so someone's got has to do it we were speaking about this in the car right now like we're really like the only ones dumb enough to really like sacrifice millions of dollars to have these conversations so here's where it's really interesting though. I don't agree. I don't think you I don't think like you are in a sense sacrificing something but at the same time there's a big benefit to be had to the sacrifice. So that's like sometimes like you guys will get on certain topics or certain things and it's like there's

still a ton of money to be made when you are speaking you know just completely candidly and openly about stuff. And I think because there's a whole sec like I was I was interviewing Don Lemon For example, I did this, like, in New York. He just got married to a man, right? So I have no idea. Clown world. I have no idea. I saw the pictures.

He got married to a man and he's like making fun of Christian. We didn't talk about that, but I was talking to him about like the censorship stuff in general and on Twitter. And how Twitter is just like, Elon Musk is like, it's kind of like, fuck it, whatever. Oh, yeah. And he. Right. Yeah. And he feels like it should be more moderated.

Of course he does. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. But it's an interesting concept because like when you say that like, you know, we're sacrificing millions,

but like are you also not kind of just playing also into like a audience that is like really also fucking tired of it and they're they're they're fucking supporting the shit out of you guys because you're doing it well the thing is is that your reach is significantly stifled when you tell the truth right so like the problem is that like big tech is run by typically liberals and you know i'm not going to sit here and say that conservatives don't censor as well they definitely do yeah but if you're going to look at who controls a majority of the censorship it's absolutely the libs right like because they dominate the big tech so um at least like people say all the time like oh rumbull's like oh right you know conservative platform but guess what like there's

liberals on there and they're not restricted in speech so like at least like on the conservative side they respect the first amendment and even though they might not agree with certain things they at least respect your ability to say it versus like liberals they'll be like oh this hate speech we're restricted and that's just what it so like it what it's not that there's people that don't agree and you can't like be profitable like being honest 100% you can the problem is that your reach is significantly limited and they kick you off the platforms where you can't play on those people yeah so you can't even reach them because they have to find you on alternative websites where it's difficult you know thankfully we're still on youtube right we got ban on instagram

which kind of sucks but let's be honest instagram isn't real anyway i i've never looked at instagram is real like you know who's who's on ig thoughts you know yeah but everyone everyone's on ig it's a great networking tool it's like a networking tool like i never considered instagram is like or real like like if you're like running a business off Instagram like you're fucking up right and that's why these only fans girls like go crazy whenever their account goes down but like you know I think for like networking putting your brand out there marketing cool but like like building a real business off IG I think is a serious I built my whole business off of IG yeah that's not true at all yeah what you could sell a lot bro bro but see here's the thing though you do like here's a thing

I would rather be on YouTube than IG 100% because you build a connection with your audience they get to see you they get to hear you et cetera you're not able to connect with your audience to the same level. What Instagram does is it amplifies a platform you've already built up on YouTube. And those people that are following you on Instagram probably found you through YouTube first and liked you there. So like, yeah, of course you could build a business on Instagram. Let me clarify. You could build a business there. However, that's not your primary platform. People loved you and knew you from YouTube and then they followed you on Instagram because you happen to be there. Kind of, kind of. Kind of. Building an audience connection. He's talking

about selling products. Of course. But yeah, but like he built his brand and his image off of YouTube. Kind of, kind of. Instagram was an accessory. I started on Instagram first. So I got really big on Instagram first, and that got me into the space of actually YouTube. I had about 600,000 followers on Instagram before I ever had a single YouTube video. Yeah. Because I made Instagram content, which is just, you know, at that time was just lifting and, like, doing strengths and shit.

And then I met Fusi, too. I've talked about the story, but then I started making content on YouTube because it was like, oh, this is like the natural progression of what I want to start doing and making content. Yeah. But I do agree with you, long format content, YouTube podcast and stuff. get people to buy like like if you're because I've met so many people right that are like big on Instagram but they don't have like YouTube audience and it's like who really like people just kind of know you a little bit in snapshots like pictures here whatever maybe right you can't

build the same level of like connection and admiration and respect and trust as when you're talking to people in long form content where they get to see your life etc like I've noticed that like when when people trust you they'll buy right for sure so and and and you're able to build that connection way strong on YouTube than any other platform so That's why I look at Instagram as like an amplification tool for a platform that you've already built. Like you're the first guy I meant that like did it the other way around. But I guarantee like most people, I mean, hell, when I found you, I found you through YouTube first. Then I saw that you're on Instagram.

So I think Instagram helps, but I think it amplifies when you already have something established like on a YouTube. When it comes to immediate money, like the Nalk Boys, for example, they could put up one Instagram story for prize picks or something. And they're probably making like $10,000, $20,000 in story posts. It's like the interaction to monetize. media like that without speaking too much and talking. For sure, for sure. So much easier. But I think the cornerstone of like creating an audience is 100% like long form video type

content. Depends with the audience you're going for. Like if people want to... If you're a bimbo and you're selling like sexual content on lonely fans and of course like Instagram is going to be like more towards your thing in TikTok. Like I've noticed like when you look at like long form content or podcasting, it's dominated by men, right? When you look at like short form content and like pictures or whatever may be, it's not TikTok, Instagram. It's dominated by

women because you know, it's sexual in nature and it's instant gratification. So girls are able to to go ahead and dominate these platforms that's why they dance like bimbos and you know post pictures themselves and they're able to you know funnel that to only fans and i get what you're saying by uh isn't there a huge demographic of people that want to be able to speak about this and it's true but it's like it's much harder it's much harder to be able to corner that audience and be able to still stay relevant through censorship so i wouldn't recommend if people are like interested in talking or starting getting into contact creation don't go down the route that me byron fresh went down

like stay mainstream 100% because like yes there's a there's a demographic of people out there but the risk that CEOs need to take in order to invest in you or people that want to do business with you it's a lot higher they're everyone in the board meetings are saying don't monetize and don't ever engage with these people the amount of people that you're blackballed with we're just like in a Twitter space uh coming over here they're like hey why don't you interview movie directors like the guy who did uh sound of freedom right that was a movie about human trafficking and South America, I'm sure you've seen that movie. It's like, why would these people work with?

Like, they're incentivized to not collab with us. So you're very limited. Yeah, it definitely does affect your ability to network. I mean, the thing is, is that the people that you, that you gravitate towards, like, what end up happening is they'll, like, really love you because, like, you're one of the few people. And here's the thing. Like, we were talking about this stuff before October 7th.

Before, like, Lex Friedman and Destiny and Pierce Morgan and everybody else jumped on his train and, like, started talking about this. We were having these discussions before, you know, Like we had a hosted debate between Nick Fences and Destiny. We had 100,000 people watching live, right? And that was because it was such a taboo topic. Now it's like people can at least talk about it. Yeah.

Right? Because what October 7 has basically done is it's kind of open to floodgates for people to like, be like, wait, what's going on here? Did it start here? And then they do the, they look at the history. Oh, wow. This has been going on for like almost a century, like 70 to 80 plus years. So I think people are having a conversation.

And, you know, and then it also exposes people too. So like I was literally looking on X right before coming here. Like the Rock is losing a bunch of followers right now, right? Really? And yeah, yeah, he's losing like 250K like a day or something like some crazy number. Yeah. Right. And because they're posting, pulling like his old tweets or his old IG posts about like,

I was just an in and out of burger. This is my first time. And then find out like, no, this is not your first time, et cetera. And that's kind of what ends up happening when you become like an A list liberty. There's no way that you're going to become an A list celebrity or be like huge, huge without pushing certain narratives and having a certain agenda and staying away from a certain topics like he went on the rogan podcast right dude you couldn't give a real take on anything like i saw that rogan asked them about palestine israel he gave like clearly a publicist type answer

politically correct and that's just the game like once if you have certain viewpoints you're never going to reach a certain level of fame and you just got to be content with that because mainstream media simply won't platform you or put you on because you have opposing views that might be considered you know the word they like to use is extreme or radical a lot of the times. When do you think like this mainstream media thing, the legacy media thing, is going to like almost completely die.

It's almost, it's dying now. Yeah. We're watching it die right now as we speak. I mean, I think the BBC failed where they tried to do that hit piece on Andrew and made themselves look crazy because he released the footage, et cetera.

People aren't trusting Fox News like that anymore. Tucker left that hurt their credibility. No one's ever really taken CNN seriously or MSNBC anyway. So like mainstream media is dying and a lot of people get their news now from Twitter. So, you know, and then like, you know, creators now. a lot of times are reporting stuff. But the thing is, is that these big companies will censor you or stifle your ability to speak

honestly. I think X is doing a really good job in Rumble right there at the forefront of free speech. Like they just reinstated Nick Fuentes on Twitter, who's one of those band guys, which I think was huge. He did a Twitter space and there were like almost 40,000 people in there listening. So clearly people want to hear opposing voices that have been censored. I never understood that where it's like, why would you just have this whole, opposing side, just silenced.

That doesn't make sense to me. Well, it's only when you talk about a certain topic. But, yeah, but even beyond that topic, a lot of other things just in general just are like, oh, it's taboo or you can't talk about this or you can't make jokes about this. Like, I just wonder what's the purpose of that because it almost like if you just look at it from a bird's eye view, it's like clearly something's wrong if you're. So this one, and I'm just thinking about this now, like there's level of baseness that you can hit, right?

So like, if you criticize transgenderism, there's two genders. you're fine that's safe i call that like tier three except on twitch you'll get bent on twitch for that yeah like twitch you'll get away with it on youtube you can get away with it on acts you can get away with it on x you can get away with it on most platforms right then you can get into feminism is a lie right and you can start criticizing the horror culture only fans pornography etc and you know use the you know premise of religion or whatever it be that's fairly safe too then you can get into geopolitics right and if you take a conservative

side and you avoid certain topics, you'll be safe, right? Kind of like what the guys over a daily wire do. But then once you go into a certain topic, which Candice Owens has to tread it on a bit and they got rid of her. Obviously, guys like Nick have talked about, Jackson Hinkle got banned. Like, then they really start to get into you. And it's that one topic that they will always, almost always get rid of you. Now, October 7, so many people are doing it that it's like, it's almost hard to moderate. But prior to October 7th, if you talked about it, dude, it was like almost like an instant censorship for a long time. For a long time. You would think that they would just allow the market of free speech to be able to debate and oppose these points, right?

If they really thought that they were wrong and these people are dangerous, then they would just let people ratio you and reply to you and have these open discussions. But they really just don't want you to have these conversations. They allow certain people to prop up like Hassanabe you've had in the podcast. He can be able to go on Pierce Morgan. He'll go out in mainstream media talking about this issue, but he's the selected guy because he won't go that far. They need somebody to speak about it where they think it's safe enough so that they can have the, conversation to make it look like there's free speech but when reality that really is he's also he's a woke he's a liberal so like that's what he's he's afforded a certain level of protection but um

but people are waking up dude do you guys ever think you go too far no I think you only go too far when you start advocating for violence like if you're gonna say that's a fucking problem that's never yeah yeah yeah other than that when it comes to I don't think there's any limitations on free speech and I've been open about this like I've told people like dude if you're ripping down posters of like um innocent Israelis that were kidnapped like your piece of shit like what's wrong with you yeah you know what I mean you can support right the you know you could be against the genocide and still have empathy for the people that were kidnapped because at the end of the day innocent people are innocent people and there's never there's never

never an acceptable parameter to condone violence against civilians ever so you know when I see these people ripping down posters of the Israelis that were kidnapped I'm like what the fuck is wrong with you all stupid yeah ridiculous it just it's just like I don't know man it's such a weird it's a weird time and to be in the space of like talking and this this whole like even having a podcast and just feeling like you just can't fully say how you feel without feeling like you're going to be fucking attacked yeah it's insane my thing is this i'm aware of the stark differences between men and women and i point them out and people refer to that as hate however if you really listen to what i say right

versus what detractors say about me all the time i think women need to be protected i think they need to be provided for i think they need to be taken care of and I accept that there's just inherent gender differences, and we're not the same. And since we are not the same, that means that there's different treatment that needs to be given to each gender. So no one criticize me when I say we need to protect and provide for our women, et cetera. But then they'll get mad at me when I say, well, women aren't leaders. What the fuck? It's like, well, you got to pick one.

So do you want me to be a gentleman and take care of you and give you these chivalrous traits, et cetera, and be a gentleman? Or do you want feminism? Because if you want feminism, guess what, we're equal. We're splitting this bill down the middle. We do everything down the middle. And the issue is that the problem of feminism is that it doesn't align with a biological reality, right? Like what's politically correct and what's real are two different things. Like feminists will sit there and tell you.

I remember this video went fucking viral. This LA chick, she talked about how she went out with a guy that like paid the bill and took her on a real date and planned everything out and how she was so attracted and aroused by it versus other guys that she's met with in LA where, you know, they're splitting bills down the middle or whatever. And it just goes to show like, you know, your hard wiring is your hard wiring. regardless of your political ideologies or whatever, right? Biology always trumps what's in what you think you know. So you're, and I've always said attraction isn't a choice. So the reality is women are attracted to asshole, misogynistic guys as they would define that align with gender norms and, you know, gender roles.

So that's what it is. So I just acknowledge this and I tell men to be men and be leaders and don't put your girl in a leadership role. And then people say, I'm a misogynist for that. But then when I say women shouldn't work and men should provide for them and she should have the ability to work electively. They're like, oh, that's awesome. I agree with that. So they pick and choose the gender roles that I talk about.

That's why you think that you don't actually hate women. Of course not, dude. If I'm over here saying like you should be willing to die for your girl and protect and provide for her, what does that mean? I feel like from outside perspective, because obviously I don't watch all of your content like fucking word for word. I could understand though why like people have this image of you. Because you can see the clips of you being like, shut up, you stupid fucking only.

You know what I'm a lot of time? A lot of the time they don't show the buildup where she's like nagging and she's saying insulting thing and she's interrupting and she's yelling for a lot of time because that's what's going to go viral. You can't clip an hour of the podcast, right? So it goes all right to the buildup, right to the execution where she has to get kicked

out of the podcast, but they don't see all. If they actually saw how disruptive and how rude a lot of these girls are, they'd be like, yeah, I would actually, I'd probably be losing my hair too if I was talking to these girls seven days a week. So another thing too, like people don't know, right? So we do our daytime show and then our nighttime. You know because you've been around.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We do our daytime show where we, you know, talk about making money on Money Mondays or had a day on Wednesdays or calling show, whatever, maybe. Then we do the show with the girls. The stuff that goes with tomorrow is the stuff with the girls. But like, just like Sniko said, I've been talking, we've been debating for like an hour, hour and a half, two hours. And these girls get like really rambunctious.

Remember, I'm dealing with like models, only fans, girls that are hot, girls that have never been told no in their life. So they're very pretentious. So I'm like, I like, I have to kind of like maintain order on the show like, hey, you know, she's talking or, hey, stop interrupting, whatever. And then they get mad. but then they click that part where I kick her up, but they don't show the hour and a half, two hours

where we're just tolerating her fuckery. And a lot of times when I kick girls out, I ask the chat, what do y'all want? Give me a one if y'all want or gone. And it's just a bunch of ones and castle emojis. Of course. Right?

They always go for drama. They always go for violence. You know? But there's a thing. There's a flip side to this that I've always wanted to ask you about. It's like if the goal was to make women, I don't know necessarily make women look better, but like to, you know how you talk about this,

only fans, bitches, all this kind of shit. And it's like, why not have girls that are less ratchet? They do come on quite a bit, but that doesn't go viral. Like there's been a lot of intellectual women, like college educated. You know, it's actually funny. A lot of the college educated, like, I have a bachelor's degree. Some of them are the dumbest. Like, they don't know how, they can't name how many countries there are.

It's really sad. And that's not what gets Clifton showing around. But there's been, I've been on a lot of shows where there's like, there's been educated panels, high IQ, stuff like that, good conversations. We had a doctor on a couple weeks ago. You know, we had doctors, lawyers on, et cetera. The thing is that the stuff that gets clipped, it's always the ratchet stupid chick

that's like a 304, right? That's a stripper or lonely fans, girls. That was get clips. So people think, oh, that's all the girls they bring on. But people don't know that it's a panel of like seven to ten girls and a bunch of them in there are smart or educated. And here's a thing,

the smart girls don't argue because they know I'm telling the truth. Yeah, and that's where it gets interesting because what people, if they don't watch all your content, like word for word, then they just go, oh, he's just yelling at girls. Yeah. They assume that I'm just the guy. that like yells at chicks all day and that's really not it because like we do have some very

productive conversations it's just that the stuff that gets clipped and goes viral is like me telling a girl shut up bitch or you're stupid or you're a bimbo get the fuck up out of here but they never saw the build up they didn't see what led to it and they just assumed that i just hate girls but the reality is it's like i genuinely believe that women need to be protected and i and i understand biological differences between men and women so i understand that as a man you got to be the leader you got to be to protect you got to be the provider but you know they never show that because that's not sexy and you can't clip that right stoicism doesn't go viral you know like intellectual conversations are not clippable it's going to be the funniest thing is seeing a girl's response when she gets kicked

out after insulting for like an hour she'll get up and start twerking it's like you need to leave the show she gets like my natural or fight or start fighting yeah fight and that's the last clip that it's going fire right now it's like millions of views on like 20 million plus probably like almost 50 by now yeah million views like yeah i told this chick to like leave because she was being rude and then like she walks out and she's like before she first she started to It's working. Yeah, you were there on that cell. Homegrown, it's homegrown.

Like she starts like showing off her body. I saw the, yeah, yeah. And then she started fighting in the back. And then she started fighting. And she started it. Like people just think, oh, she got jumped. Absolutely. She's the one and I broke down the footage.

Like she grabs one of the girls next who's supposed to be the security. And shout to icy. And yeah, she started the fight 100%. Do you think a part like you also kind of feed into it for the clip stuff? So I've been asked that before. Yeah. I genuinely don't, don't be. And I'll tell you.

why dude it's a fucking headache man like like talking our girls three times a week and doing two shows a day like i like to do regular shows where we're just chilling having a good conversation etc but there's always like one or two girls on the panel man that's like just being an idiot hurting the quad of the show people in the chat are complaining etc because they're interrupting interjecting i mean you know imagine having like 10 people right and everyone has a mic and they can hear everything right so like because some girls like to ad lib like make comments on the side like bro shut up like it's a podcast period like the stupid shit slay bitches are like jim jones of 2006 like you know you like jeez your shit yeah that's queen yeah that dumb shit so it's like it like i got to

like kind of rule with an iron fist so like it i guess people say oh you just do it for for the clips or whatever but i genuinely don't man we've we've had 3,000 girls on the show i've only kicked out like 200 yeah that sounds like a lot that's a pretty high ratio that sounds like a crazy number 200's insane but think about it like percentage wise that's not that much yeah yeah just sounds like 90 plus percent like I got to get it from my guy but like 90 plus percent of the girls don't get kicked off and you said earlier that a lot of the girls are hot so they've never been told no you'd be surprised like some girls that weigh more than you that are like 270 they still have the entitlement of a hot girl now because the amount of DMs a girl gets

boosting her self-esteem and making her think that she can never be wrong whatsoever the ugliest chicks men have the loudest mouths I see dude I mean I was talking to Greg about that like who had it harder men or women. And it's like obviously men. Greg, Doucette. Ducet. Before, like after I was all him on Jubilee. Yeah, the, the fit guys versus the fat guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you see that episode? I didn't watch it. I saw clips, which, which was pretty fucking hilarious. It'd be good to react to on stream. What? It'd be good to react to on stream. Afterwards, there was like some of the fat guys that were being quiet, like, well, so it's okay to be fat, but, but they posted videos afterwards saying like, Myron's homophobic, he's transphobic. And

can't believe they'd platform and, like, grown men crying because Myron doesn't It's a different opinion. Yeah. Did you get mad when they made fun of you, though, for being small? No, man. Like, I was just like, in my head, I was like, okay, call me small or whatever, but you're still fat. You know what I mean?

So it's like, in my head, I'm like, I'm like, dude, I'm fucking natural. I'm six three. Like, yeah, I'm not going to be fucking jack like these other guys because I've never done a drug in my life, right? So, um, and like for me, I train more for like, you know, to be fit. And obviously I've been doing like some boxing training. So that's going to make you cut weight, right? Is what you do any type of more, any type of combat support.

So I wasn't pissed about it. I was just like, I just found a funny how like they were trying to deflect from the fact that like they were fat and coping for being fat. And my big problem was like and this with these guys, because a lot of them are influencers too. I found this out like after the fact that they're like fat TikTokers, body positivity TikTokers like these lot of these dudes. So it's like it's it's almost like they're invested and like not getting their audience to like change and get in shape. And you know, and I get it like because the guys that I was with, the fitness guys that I was with like, you know, they're pretty clean cut. right like Greg was agreeing with some of the stuff that I said but he's not going to go all the way um like and you know this from being in a fitness industry too let's keep it a thousand but a lot of these fitness

industry guys are fucking cucked they can't say what they really want to say yeah they can't be as open as they want to be because they understand if I'm in a fitness niche like a lot of the times like if you're a real like popular fitness influencer you're going to be almost split down the middle with like your followers a lot of the times right yeah or like you're going to have a good percentage that are also female so you can't say certain things but like for me I looked at it like, bro, let's just say what the fuck we say when we're in the locker room, what it really is. We don't respect fat people. We make funny y'all. You guys are fucking pathetic and you guys are disgusting. And you guys go ahead and push this propaganda

to everyone else to keep them fat because if they get in shape, they're not going to watch you anymore. So this body positivity thing, it's all a fucking lie. It's a scam. It's a huge scam. It's like the therapist of the fitness industry because the therapist doesn't actually want you to get better. The therapist is going to approach the client with a middle gone approach like, well, come back next week and take this medication. But you can break down why people go to therapy probably in five minutes oh just do the thing that you know you're supposed to do work harder and get over it and the name of the show is called middle ground fuck that like there's no such thing as like a middle ground when it comes to excellence like if you want to

be the best of the best you're going to have to be extreme in some degree right and a lot of people say oh that's you're too radical well fuck you then like we're going to do what we got to do to be successful regardless of that that's where the divide is then yeah but these guys are like sitting there like oh what is there a middle ground we don't negotiate with terrorists we don't negotiate with women. We don't negotiate with these fucking weirdos. There's two genders. You know, like, dude, it is what it is. Like, people go ahead and sit there and say, oh, man, you're X, Z, whatever the fuck term they want to use to like ascribe like my level of success or my mindset or whatever. But the reality

is any guy that is successful with the gym, girls, making money, et cetera, has a similar A type personality where we don't sit there and tolerate mediocrity. But these guys are trying to sit here and advocate for being a fucking loser. Yeah. Well, I mean, you're, you're, then you're talking about something different. It's like you're talking about mindset, which is like obviously someone looking a certain way has to do with what their mind is telling them what they believe is possible.

That's like a whole sickness of itself or like how can you convince someone that they're good enough? Yeah. Because that's what it comes down to. What do you mean to convince them that they're good enough? Like that conversation is like, it's greater than just like someone being fat or in shape or whatever. It's like someone feeling like I'm going to hold myself to this standard

that you guys are talking about the standard of what you hold yourself to as far as like physicality or just where you're at and what you're focused on and how you're doing it. it's like I don't think everyone in the world just has that genuinely no no no and that's what I talked about on the thing I was like they're like well none of everyone's gonna be that I was like fantastic there's winners and there's losers if you don't fucking you know want to rise up you're a fucking loser and that's fine we need you guys we need fucking losers right because because at the end of the day and that's the other thing too like everyone thinks that we're equal and we're all the same no we're not bro that's a bunch of we're not let's go into the gym every day making this money doing the fuck I do and that I'm going to be equal to your fat fucking ass. Hell fucking no. There are differences. Why do you think the idea of like we should all just not necessarily that we should all be unequal or like why do you think we're trying to make this world such like a fucking

playground with fucking bumpers everywhere? Well, what's the purpose of that? When you lie, people buy, bro. Like if we sit there and we sell, because here's the thing, if most people are fat and obese and we want to make money. Sell a medicine. Yeah. Big pharma, of course, it has a planet.

But the thing is, if most people are fat, what are we going to do? Are we going to appeal to the people that are fit or the fat people? No, we've got to appeal to the fat people and tell them it's okay to be fat. Then we're going to create industries for it. We're going to create plus size modeling. We're going to create big and tall. We're going to create fucking plus size dresses and all this other shit. Like, bro, weak people are easy to monetize.

If they're going to buy into it, if they make up some medicine that you need to get during a pandemic, then they're going to be the ones who immediately believe it. They're going to be the ones that go to therapy, take the medication. They are going to always be. They're customers that you can use forever. like strong people are not easy to control we're talking now about like a much different topic which is like some people just don't fucking have it no matter how bad you want them to have it yeah yeah there's got winners and losers but my thing is I wasn't really trying to convince

those fat asses like like to change because they're not bro when you when you have that mindset and you're stuck and you're like invested to making fat boy content you're not going to change but my thing is for the audience to like see the discrepancy and logic and um view in the world objectively and reality-based because like these guys just kept making excuses for why they're fat versus I'm saying no you need to take accountability you're going to control of every morsel of the food that goes into your fucking mouth and the like the fact that you're fat is your own problem and here's a thing that that video right it's jubilee's most viewed video right now most comments and it has the most comments of any video it has like almost

40,000 comments right right and everyone in there is like talking about me but what but at least I sparked the conversation is it really acceptable to be fat right and it's going to make you go one one of two ways. You're going to say, damn, this is who spin the truth and I am in control of my weight. Or you're going to be a fucking fat pussy and say, oh, it's not my fault. It's, I don't know. It's my feelings and I'm depressed. Do you think there's a better way to encourage people? No. It doesn't work. Shaming is one of the strongest. Like saying that it's okay and that's okay, you're good enough and there's going to be time. They're never going to, they're going to think, oh, well, they're going to have a mediocre approach to it. Even what you said just now,

being fat is not healthy. That's a controversial opinion. A lot of these people end up, yeah, A lot of these people in Ireland will look at Lizzo. Oh, Lizzo's in the gym. She'll post a couple pictures on the treadmill and they'll think that this is something. Oh, she's on stage dancing. So it's fun. Like you holding that belief that being fat is unhealthy is very, very controversial in this space. That's crazy.

Yeah, bro. Like you can't even. I mean, you could be fat and have a healthy blood work panel, but for how long is another question. That's, because at some point the fat on the body is probably going to catch up to you. Yeah. Yeah. And no, and that's true. That is true, right?

Like, because there's a bunch of fat people who say, well, I'm fine. And I'm like, yeah. but how long can you maintain that you're 25 years old and here's other thing too and i mentioned this on jubilee video there's a bunch of fat influencers that recently died like in a past year or two like big ticotkers etc i can't recall their names now but uh but they but they like passed away and they're like you know making all these gluttonous videos like eating challenges they're fat as fuck sitting there saying oh yeah like you know trying to like condone it and the thing is right live in a social media world so when you have audience like and you're able to influence people

and you have that level of like um power over people like the last thing you want to do is lie to them and tell them it's okay to be fat, right? As much as people want to sit there and say that I'm an asshole, I'm massagist, whatever the fuck it may be, at least I tell people objective reality. Yo, you're a man, you're only valued if you create resources and take care of yourself. Like, you're not a female.

You can't get by on just being pretty. You need to make money. You need to get in the gym. You need to build your mind, build up your body, and then you will go ahead and be able to walk into the world and command some goddamn fucking respect because that's what it comes down to. Your last name carries weight

if you work to create that last name. We got people that are getting bombed right now in Gaza that can't even get access to clean water that can't eat food or whatever and we're over here in the United States complaining about I'm getting cyber bullied like it's fucking ridiculous but that's when they relinquished their manhood too

because you said something that's also accurate that a man is only judged based on what he provides that's why they end up changing their genders and saying that I'm gender fluid is because they know intrinsically that men are only going to be valid based on what they could do so they give up their status as a man I am now fluid I'm this

I'm not even a man anymore i give up dude they use these stupid ass like terms like and it's it's crazy to me because every time i come out to l.a i'm like more bamboozled by the shit that you guys have out here like i went to the bathroom right and i see a bitch like doing her makeup i was like what the fuck and there's a urinal right next to her i'm like this is weird i've never ever seen that anything like that bro i live here where the fuck was this at this was at their studios at the jubilee studios and i've seen a couple other bathrooms like this like all gender bathrooms and i'm like this is chaos like we can't even separate bathrooms like bro i don't want to be taking a piss and shaking one out

like you know to get the piss off me or whatever you flick it on a girl and then a girl's next to me do a makeup that's weird that's weird that's that's really that happened i mean i've seen the all-gendered bathroom but like normally it's singular no man it was like a like there was a urinal in there there was like a stall and all this other shit like fucking makeup center yeah what yeah dude i was like what the fuck did you get a number no man i walked out i didn't go away i Like, I saw her doing the makeup. I had to piss bad, too. I just, like, walked out.

I was like, I can't do this. This is weird. Oh, you know? And it opens up the door for, like, a bunch of other weirdness, right? You got, like, these trainees going in the bathroom. It's like, what if there's a kid in there? Right? Like, that's my issue with it.

So, you know, and these woke liberals, like, refuse to acknowledge reality. Like, this is like, dude, there's two genders. Like, if you fucking die, let's say you're, you identify as a woman now, whatever the fuck, right? And you're a guy that transferred over. When you die and they pull up your bones, right? they're going to say that this was a male there's like a little bit of wow where it's like is it really necessary to be that shrewd and that sort of from you know the outside i can be like he's just mean he's disrespectful is it always that necessary because i feel like you can get the same thing done the point

across that you want to get across without being that sort of fair point fair point but this is what i'll say just like the girls on the podcast that come on and don't say anything no one remembers you when you're nice no one remembers you when you politically correct no one remembers you when you just say things in a very stoic manner, it's boring, doesn't capture attention, people don't care. Need to have some charisma, you got to have some energy, you got to have some fire, you got to be passionate. So to me, I look at it like, I would rather tell someone you're a fat piece of shit, quit versus, hey man, you're a little overweight. You might want to go ahead and reconsider your food choices. What's more memorable? They're going to go to sleep thinking,

damn. Yeah, I am a fag. Or they're going to be like, that guy's a fucking asshole. Fuck him and then just go on with their fadness. You know, it was crazy. The one guy that was offended the most. guess what happened after the Jubilee episode he probably came up to him he went to the gym he posted on Instagram so like that's the first step like you need to get pissed off and then you make a change yeah that's fair you like and if you could hate me and get pissed off and go to the gym I succeeded I won

because like now you're doing and also they're going to win then they're going to win of course yeah of course because I look at it if I had to like because there's a reason think about it so the military right do you think sergeants are sitting there saying you know what man load up the AR you know do it nicely you know we're going to go ahead and shoot some targets here. No, they're saying, Hey, maggot, fuck, run right now.

Like, why are they going ahead and taking that approach to train individuals for combat where it's life or death? When it's life or death, which is the fight against obesity, by the way, you're not going to sit here and like, you know,

oh, let me make you feel better so you can go ahead and go to the gym. No, motherfuckerucker, you triple chin, fat piece of shit, breathing three times as much as I should be doing. Let's go.

What the fuck? You're taking three breaths of oxygen for my one? Is your life more valuable than me, fat ass? No. Breathing like a fuck a weirdo. like no this needs to be fixed

and if I yell at them and tell them you fat piece of shit you need to fuck go to the gym need to fucking list of weights need to eat better need to get out the fucking cheeseburgers they're gonna remember that way more than me saying

hey maybe you want to go in and readjust your diet fuck that's why that Jubilee video got so much views bro no one gets a fuck what those other gotta say on the thing

they all were commenting on me why because I was the most memorable I was the most throwing out but I get you I love it he's riled up no I love it it's true

it's true it's just there's there's a love level of like man can you just be a like you're like a fucking 12 can you be like a fucking eight i give you a you know what i'm saying no no no i'm just saying you in general oh you mean in general oh but i'm giving a message yeah you don't think there's value at like doing it at eight because like here's my thing is like if they're not ready to listen they're not ready to listen no matter what the fuck you say and if you're if you're extra dickhead to them they're gonna be like for sure fuck that guy then let them be a loser we need winners and losers because like i look at it

like there's two types of guys right if you have a type personality whatever it's gonna fire you up and you're going to go anyway. But if you're like one of these like more passive like, you know, cucked out motherfuckers, you're going to be like, it's offense me. I'm going to shut down. All right, then shut down. Sit in your fucking dark room, cry me a river, listen to some Justin Timberlake and be a bitch. Like, it's fine. The guys that are going to succeed are going to succeed. And when I give them that kind of motivation, it's either going to inspire or make them, you know, say, oh, I'm going to go cry in a room. Go crying a room, bro. Sneaker. What should take on it. 100%. I mean, like, the most successful world leaders of all time were authoritarian. They didn't

like try to dial back what was true and what was false in order to peace. to people's feelings. It's something needed to get done. They said this is how it's going to be. They, like, ruled the nation with an iron fist. They need, you need people, it's refreshing. We're, we're content creators or we're not nation leaders, you know what I'm saying? I know, but they're saying that the middle ground approach is not effective because people

are going to be like, well, yeah, you're okay. But sometimes you have more influence than national leaders. That's true. That's why these creators, yeah, like some of these creators have more influence than national leaders, right? Politicians don't have movements behind them anymore. I think that more people would go to like a fresh and fit podcast rally than a Joe Biden rally. I think you could have actually more people show up to like let me hey gym protest and there's

going to be more energy for the fact that they closed down your gym than a Joe Biden rally any day and he's the sitting president of the United States of America. It was lit. We did that. Where do you think it was more energy like outside of gym with some like some kids who are upset about the gym closing or Joe Biden talking about whatever? Obviously outside the gym bro. And that's the sitting president. So this is important to talk about. It's refreshing because this this like la da da da da dot it's been going on. It's been going too long. Especially in 2024, like, there are certain influencers that, like, transcend borders and have more influence of some of these national leaders. Why do you think they shut Andrew Tate down so hard? They did like a concert effort. We got to ban them everywhere. We got a ban on YouTube,

on Instagram, et cetera. We've got to ban them. And the reason why is because he was able to inspire the youth into, you know, having a more distant mindset. So then it all comes down to control thing. It seems like all this stuff boils down to just being able to like more easily control the population to do what you ever, you want to do for money. A fat, depressed, genderless population is much easier to manipulate and control than people who are going to the gym every day and don't care about your feelings. Women too. That's why they push feminism. So when you push feminism, right, and you tell women they're equal to men, et cetera, well, okay, cool, they're equal to men, right? They can do everything that a man can do. But the reality is that women are way more susceptible

and way more malleable to influence. This is why when you look at like fashion trends, when you look at advertisers, how they do their ads, et cetera, it's almost always appealing to women, right? Because women are the consumers. 80% of the consumer base is female. Three quarters of debt is controlled by women. So who's the one spending the money? Women are. So if I'm an advertiser, am I going to go ahead and market to men who are way harder to sell to, way less agreeable, et cetera.

Am I going to market to women? I'm going to market to women. I'm going to go ahead and tailor my ads to women to the weak-minded individuals so that I can go ahead and make sales. This is why the liberal agenda, the feminist agenda, has been pushed for so long because it's easier to sell to weak-minded individuals. And if you install feminism within the population, then the woman's going to be the one leading the household.

And women think emotionally by nature. There was a moment yesterday, Myron's girlfriend and she was in the room where we were catching the pedophiles and this guy literally admitted to texting 12 year old boys and he was caught red-handed with all this information

and I was like getting in his face and getting aggressive kind of how you were and then Myron's girlfriend was saying like you're scaring him. You felt bad. She felt a little bit of compassion. We need to scare these people

so if you let the emotional mind of a woman like no offense, let's be real. If you let the emotional mind of a woman have any sort of control and power then the people that are really in control can dominate you. That's why we give all this money to homeless and open borders and everything else like that. Like that's what happens when like these wokeys and people that are too compassionate get in office and they get power.

And, you know, an example of this, I always like to refer to like the Gillette commercial, right? Back in like 2019, I don't know if you remember this, like Gillette released a commercial talking about toxic masculinity, et cetera. Like the fact that Gillette thought it was okay to release a commercial ostracizing their target base, which is men and just shitting on them for like 10 minutes talking about toxic masculinity, all this other stuff goes to show who. really who really buys and who they're advertising to, right? Could you imagine a Victoria's Secret put out an ad? Women, you need to stop making false accusation. You need to stop being hosed. You know, we're going to go ahead and burn our bras and you guys need to do better and stop being fat. Victoria's Secret will be out of business tomorrow. But they went ahead and felt okay with targeting men, shitting on men. Gillette did this. Obviously,

they lost a bunch of money doing it. But the fact that they even thought it was appropriate to do it tells you the current culture that we're in now where advertisers are more concerned with woke, they're more concerned with appealing to females, et cetera, because they know women spend the majority of money. So if you go ahead and you have a population that's run by women that are malleable to influence, and then you've got a bunch of woken men who are fat, weak, not going to the gym, not taking a hell serious, and they're concerned with being politically correct, you can easily control the population. Is there a middle ground or that's just, that's impossible? No, middle ground is never going to work. It's never going to work because then too many people are,

you need to have somebody like a dictator tell you right from wrong. Like, democracy doesn't work. Men have to register under selective service, right? As a man in the United States, if you don't register for selective service, you can go to jail, you get fines, you don't get federal aid. If you want to go to college, et cetera. Women don't have to register for selective service. And then... This is to go to the military.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you have to... Yeah. When you turn 18 as a guy, you have to... We're all... I'm sure you did it too.

You might not remember, but like, yeah, you have to register for selective service. Otherwise, you're not going to get federal aid if you want to go to college. You can't get a federal... job is going to fuck you up. You're going to get fines, potentially go to jail, right, for selective service. And then on top of that, I think if a woman does get a full vote, she either has to have military service, some kind of government service, et cetera, she has to have some skin in the game, be a real estate property owner, something. But the problem is that when you have a bunch of people voting that don't have skin in the game, that don't serve in the military, that don't have any

public service, that don't understand how the government works, et cetera. What's up happening is they put idiots like Biden in because they don't understand how the real world works. 70% of women, American women voted for Joe Biden. I think like over half of them regret it. Three years later. Over half of them or what? Regretting. Like their decision. Where do you see those stats at?

I just made it up. No, no, no. It's real. It's real. I'm sure I saw that. But it's true. 70% of American women did vote for Joe Biden. Most of them vote Democrat. That's just the reality. The black community, minorities and women typically vote Democrat. That's just been historically the case.

And they never do it. But you're right. You pointed it out. It's all about control. So I think if you see anything pushed by the mainstream narrative, just think that they don't actually care about you. They don't want you to succeed. They don't want you to become a winner because then you're going to challenge the status quo. They want you to be controllable forever.

So if you see it pushed by any major politicians, if you see it pushed by the mainstream media, always immediately think this is a lie. Well, it was interesting when I was interviewing Don, I remember we had, and this will probably come out probably next week because the academics pile will come out first. Don Jr.?

No, Don Lemon. And one of the questions I asked in, which was so interesting was like, we were talking about the whole COVID thing, We were talking about how, like, you know, he believed that the government was trying to protect people and help people. Right, right. No, that's, and I asked him, I was like, do you really think, like, they, they care about people? Like, do you think they really are trying to protect people? And what do you say?

He danced out at like a politician. Yeah, well, yeah. No, he said yes, essentially. He said in moments like that, he does think so. Well, they knew they were lying from the jump. Well, dude. They knew it was experimental. They knew that it wasn't deadly.

And they just wanted to keep us inside. Well, that's what I was trying to ask him. He kept saying, well, the information we had at the time. said this. And I'm like, well, that's not true. There was a ton of other information that just wasn't being allowed. And I knew that as a creator where like if I said anything for that, yeah, you talked about COVID in 2020, bro. They would immediately stifle your video. They put the little banner underneath. Yeah. Like saying COVID misinformation. You're, it's like your chance of losing your channel, everything. Yeah. So just the fact that that was happening, it was like,

that wasn't true. And I'm, I kept, we kept trying to have this conversation with me and the boys were on the pod. And it was like, obviously, he's from the other person because he was on CNN at the time, talking about, you know, you do this or it should be ashamed of yourself. and all that shit. And then it's just like, it's interesting trying to go back and forth on that because it's just the same circle where it's like,

well, this is what we knew at the time. It's like, well, you're just going in circles about something that wasn't true. Like, we also knew other shit that you're avoiding. Like the Ivermectin stuff.

It's like, oh, it's a horse. It's fucking for cattle. It's like, this has been using people forever. And there's tons of evidence, but now we're just going to fucking pretend like this is the only thing. They don't care about your health.

I mean, that's why they, when they had Joe Rogan go on CNN, they color corrected his face to look like a goblin to make him look like because he was pushing abermectin they don't care. And Don Lemon's a complete pawn. Like, let's be real. The reason that he got married and he had this giant ceremony for his gay marriage is because they're trying to disrespect

Christianity. They know that something like Christianity is going to make you feel stronger, it's going to not make you listen. If you have strong Christians in a country, they're not going to believe in all the propaganda. They're going to believe in what's in the Bible. They're going to believe what's in the church and what they're hearing from there. They took a picture, Don Lemon he got married in front of the church, wearing the suits and that's one of the biggest acts

of blasphemy. He's disrespecting a traditional ceremony, which is marriage, which should be between a man and a woman. I don't think anybody should be getting married to the United States. I think they should not be allowed the religious ceremony that men and women enjoy

with the confinements of their religion, whether it's Islam, Christianity, whatever. All the Abrahamic religions don't believe in homosexuality. The same rate that siblings shouldn't get married or like a mother and a son shouldn't get married. Like gay people should not be able to get married. I think they should have the ability to go ahead and do civil unions so that they can go ahead

and get some of the tax benefits and some of the protections afforded through marriage. But are you guys both like gay, loki? On Saturdays, yeah. Yeah, I got it. Because you know, they got the, you guys don't see that. The picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could address that here at a second, right, for all the low IQ into idiots.

But like, in general, like, yeah, like, I don't, like, homosexual shouldn't be allowed to marry religious. I know you guys got so mad. I know. I don't get mad. He got mad. He got mad. He got mad. No, no.

I was just thinking about how to hit back. But I'm like, yeah, you're joking. I'm fucking around. I know. Yeah, just like, I got to play a little bit of the devil's advocate. Of course. Just stay on you too. Yeah, we're here.

So, yeah, so, like, I don't think they should be able to get married within the confinements of, like, a religious ceremony. However, I think they should be able to do it through the state and get the, you know, legal protection that they seek. I'm also, I also don't know if they, I don't think they should be able to adopt children either. I don't think it's healthy for a child to see two moms or two dads. That just kind of sets things up in a very weird predicament.

And I don't think children should be exposed. I think children should be exposed to a nuclear family where you see a father, you see a mother, you see that healthy polarity and gender differences and gender roles. And I think that like sets children up because a nuclear family is the backbone of society. But to go to your question with the gay thing, yeah, dude. So like they circulate these pictures, right? Yeah. Of like me in college with my teammates, right?

And if you look at the pictures, right, like one of them I'm like in bed, right? And this fucking one of my buddies's name is Eric, he's like on top of me hugging. me right dude i want that was on a training trip back in like 2011 2012 where um i went to college in boston northeastern university in the spring like it's cold as hell can't roll in the water there so you have to come to we went down to florida we were like in brain it's center coco beach or something like that down here and we practiced at like four four or five o'clock in the morning as you know from us doing this podcast at freaking 1130 to night yeah i'm not a morning guy never been so it was always hard for me to like wake up like to train early like this is a real meek mail answer right now

the visual athlete yeah so like was that you said I said this is a real meek-mill answer right now. Yeah, well, here, I'm going to get some good part here. You know, they say that about bodybuilders, too. Like, they're insecure with their masculinity. So they live so much to cover up the gay with muscles, you know? It is what it is. So they fucking, so like, I'm in my room sleeping and they fucking barge in, right?

And they fucking turn the lights on like this and wake up on practice. It was always hard for me to wake up. So you fucking jumps on me to wake my ass up. And that's why I'm like, have a sleep like this. And they snap a picture. But that's like the context. But, like, they never talk about that. Like, oh, look, you're in bed with another dude.

Bro, they fucking barge into my hotel room. And they fucking jumped in there and fucking woke my ass up because we had early morning practice. But when you put things in context, right, they understand. And like, anyone that's an athlete or in the military or like around your bros, dude, they do stupid gay shit all the time. It's like, it's normal. Bro shit.

Yeah. But like people say, oh, man, you're gay. It's like, no, bro, I was the visual an athlete. People fuck around. They do stupid shit. Horseplay, whatever it is. And it's like, and I can tell when guys like, never once college, never played a sport, never had a real brotherhood.

because you always make funny gay jokes. It is what it is. But people are stupid. I noticed they did that to discredit a lot of the other base people right now that happened to Jake. It happened to Nick. They'll just say that because it deflects.

Like when we were in a Twitter space with Nick, they had like an actual gay politician. This guy George Santos gets in. And he's saying, well, aren't you this? Aren't you that? It's like he's trying to talk about one of the most important issues right now and they just deflect and it's just like, now we're having a trivial conversation.

They did it to Kevin Samuel's recipes to him before he died saying that he was gay. Like what they'll do is if they know that your arguments are ironclad, they'll go ahead and try to make like a deflection argument. you were just saying like, oh, you're gay, but okay, let's assume I was gay. If I was actually gay and you guys were going ahead and because these are the same woke people by the way that attack that like say, oh, which is funny. Now it gets really funny. Yeah. See what I'm going? Like a lot of these people that say that I'm gay, like they tend to lean more left. They tend to be like, oh, well, everyone's accepted, et cetera. Let's say I was really gay. Well, you're

homophobic. Now what are you going to do? Oh shit. But the reason why they feel comfortable to call me gay is because they know I'm not. If I was actually gay and they called me gay, that would be problem they probably get canceled to be called homophobic etc but they feel comfortable calling me gay because they know i'm not and it also proves that deep down everybody knows that it's something disgusting it actually proves that they know that this is wrong they pretend to be inclusive about this but if they're going to use it as an insult to discredit somebody are you really as inclusive as you say because who's the people that call me gay the most it's my haters it's um females it's women like and they tend to be more i'm accepting of everyone we champion all races we champion all genders we champion

all just sexualities but then they'll go ahead and sit there and call me gay but the only reason they feel comfortable to do that, it's because they know that I'm not. Yeah, the mental backflips are funny, though. Yeah, it's crazy, right? So that's what they do whenever you get to a certain point and you piss people off is they'll go ahead and attack your sexuality. And that's fine. They can have those pictures out there. They're on my Facebook public because I'm not ashamed of fucking those pictures. Like people fuck around and do stupid shit, kiss me out of the cheek and shit. That's not gay. Like, if you go to any Middle Eastern country, Sudan, Dubai,

whatever may be, Egypt, et cetera. It's actually very common to kiss a gun in cheek when you meet. It's very common. Italian culture. A lot of cultures practice that. They're going, oh, you're gay. All right, bro. What about your allegations, Nico? What about my allegations? You're gay, Alice. You're gay.

Bro, it's the same thing. It's the same answer. It's just like the dumbest thing you could. I just like trolling you. I just like trolling you, bro. Yeah, they just like to deflect, dude. Like, that's, that's what it is. Whenever you're over target, they're going to go ahead and do some bullshit.

Oh, my God. They'll do some bullshit to attack your credibility. And that's like one of the big ones is, like, to call you gay when they know you're not. Slame, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny, dude. I just I know you I know you all enough now I know when you get uncomfortable yeah yeah yeah did that make you uncomfortable you just want to fucking fire at me or what

I love it I love it okay okay fair fair um so you've been doing more like you guys been doing more uh boxing MMA training yeah I have been yeah I took a little bit of a break but I'm gonna get back into I was literally to talk on my boxing coach I just sparred uh Anderson Silva's son Gabriel Silva like just now and it was good to get back in there I kind of like slowed down during Ramadan but I've been um I'm been training again once I get up to 260 man uh rematch time we got to run that rematch time we got to run that we got to run i'm excited how wait how much you weigh about 190 when you're a fluctured between 19 to 200 yeah 16 weight on bro i'm i'm okay on my weight i mean rampage jacks in the same that's extreme

pussy i like it man i like this weight i like this way see i don't need to go tack on a bunch of like extra muscle in order to prove my masculinity it's good this is this is a good weight class and also because i have good reach and i'm tall but when i start fighting i'm gonna have a giant advantage I see you're playing from a fighting perspective. I'm okay at my weight. I'm okay. He calls me stick-o. It's fine.

Like the same thing. He makes fun of fat people. I get made fun for being skinny too, but I'm comfortable at this weight. As long as you're in shape, I think that's what really matters the most. And I go to the gym almost every day. Yeah.

What do you guys enjoy doing the most right now? Making fun of people on the internet? I think it works. I'm trolling. I was like genuinely thinking. I'm trolling. What do you actually enjoy doing the most right now? I've recently got back into gaming.

Right. Oh, let's go. Yeah, yeah. I recently got back. I started streaming Overwatch. I play Overwatch, too. Bro, no fucking way. Yeah.

No. Yeah, yeah. Do you really? Do you have to play? Yeah. I'm so good at. What's your rank? I'm not,

I, well, I'm normally a diamond. What are you right now, though? Come on, man. I'm a diamond. Right now, you can pull the thing up. You're a diamond? Yeah.

Who do you make? Moira. She got buffed. Okay. Okay. All right. She's funny. She's funny.

She plays too. She plays too. Grown ass man, bro. She plays too. What is this something like what? You don't play me? No, I don't game. I got,

I got work to do. See, I'm not gay, so I don't game. Oh, I guess I'm gay because I'm fucking game, dude.

No, I play, gaming. I play, gaming. For healer, I play Anna Zen. And then for,

he plays Zen too. He plays Zen too. Yeah. And then for, for DPS, McCree Soldier, I like hit scans. See, he hates this right now.

Why are you a hate it? No, seriously, we should play. Yeah, let's play. I didn't know. That means you're pretty good, bro. I'm diamond too. No, I'm really good.

Yeah, I'm diamond as well. I'm diamond. Yo. I thought you're going to say like your plan numbers of shit. I'm sparkly. You PC? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just learned like mouse and keyboard and playing PC.

And I was able to do it. Dude, yeah, let's fucking do it. I didn't know. Sounds like you feel like kind of like left out a little bit. No, you guys have fun with your sparkly diamonds, man. I hope you guys have a jolly. Well, let me tell you why I mentioned this. I wasn't, I wasn't going to just talk Overwatch and shit.

But what I, the reason why. So I recently got back into gaming, right? and all right blurt this out again bro the gaming community's filled and the reason why here we go bro so i stopped i quit gaming in like 2016 2017 with overwatch one right i reached gm level by the way too we're playing damn back in it yeah well on concert so not the same okay peasant class right yeah but the point but but but then right like you can still kind of talk shit or whatever you get ban here and there but like bro i come back to gaming in late 2023 2024 it's completely I'm over here saying you know certain things right fucking trash let's destroy these you're

you're getting get you're fucking trash and there they're literally whole podcast is going to be censored bro this is like my one opportunity to be on YouTube well I'm just saying what I would say yeah yeah yeah bro I'm getting com band dude I'm on like my fourth account you're taking notes okay dude I'm on like my fourth account right now I literally have to use a Chinese alt account to play right now why don't you just cool it a little bit just chill I can't just chill I can't, bro, I got to talk shit. I got to let them know their garbage. You know, I got to let them know their garbage, you know, in certain ways that are like a little more, you know, chill.

I can't, bro. Like, I got to stream on Rumble because I can't do it on YouTube. I'd be raging. Like, bro, I lose my shit. Like, my chick plays next to me. She sees me. Bro, it's every other word when he's gaming. Every other word is.

So she plays next to me, right? She's on her account playing. Wait, what do you play? Oh, she's lit. Yeah, yeah. She's a bronze. She's trash, though. Oh, she's got.

Yeah, she's working on it. She's getting better. Like, I literally forced her to play. Like she, so she's playing next to me, right? Because we have both our computers right there. So she has her mic on, right? Because she's communicating with her team and I'm playing. They can hear me screaming on my game.

Say, you guys are fucking trash, blah, blah, blah. Her account got banned. Like, they reported her, her account got banned. I got like three accounts banned. It's like, bro, they pusified gaming. What happened to being able to go on a lobby and be like, like, I can't go on my mind. I can't say what I want to say anymore.

It's pissing you. It's crazy. Bro, I love making racial jokes. Those call dudes. duty days were insane. Bro, fucking fantastic. Oh, my God. Right here, like, fucking, like, breathe on a mic.

I'd be like, your nostrils are big. You're probably. Like, I can't do that no more. I can't do it anymore. It sucks. Yeah. This is so fucking funny to me on so many levels. He said he was going to go easy in the car.

Like, we said we're not going to go too hard, but here we go. Yeah, I can. I don't even play if I don't play with people. Really? Yeah, I won't play. Because I'll lose my mind. Do you rage? Yeah, bro.

But I don't, like, I won't play. Do you meet your mic? Yeah, I don't. I just, you know what? I'm even old enough now. I'm just like, this is the one thing I think men are stupid about it. So like we turn on a game to like relax and de-stress.

Oh my God. You end up having to mute your mic because you're screaming so much of your TV. I don't mute my mic anymore. Isn't this fucking you guys need to hear this work? You guys are fucking garbage, you scrubs. Well, bro, it's just a game. And I'm like, what do you mean? It's just a game.

It's not a game. You fucking inferior fuck. You triple chin piece of shit. You're probably fat as fuck. Right now, somebody hanging on the keyboard. You fucking suck. Get the fuck out of my fucking lobby. You scrub.

And they're like, oh, well, you're so toxic. Shut up. And they're like, oh, man, I'm reporting you. Report me then, bitch. Report me. I really hope he doesn't get a heart attack quicker than the fat people that he rose. Report me. Like, and then they, then they mass support me.

Next day, next day, do my account is fucking, sorry, you've been suspended for X, Y, Z. I'm suspended right now. I, I got, sometimes I pray for your health as much as I pray for the fatties, bro. Until, until May 18th, bro. They banned me for a month. I might make an account. I admire the passion. I really admire the passion.

He's going to pop a vein. in his forehead, bro. Like, it's, it's, for my gamer, my gamer text captain T-Bag. So they banned me for that to, ooh, inappropriate username.

Oh, that's a cool username. Harassment. Yeah, well, T-Bag's like, that's a mainstaying video games. Yeah, I know,

I know. I've had it since, like, 2006 and shit. But, like, the point I'm trying to make is, is, video gaming has even become

pusified. That's my point. That is true. It used to be able to be toxic and it was no problem. Yeah. Now you can't be toxic anymore. But why,

like, why did that become the thing? but there's been like a massive push I don't know if you notice it's like because I used to play like Halo 2 back in the day semi-pro like I love that motherfucker really oh my god you played MLG settings I'm nasty bro yeah really yeah we should play that shit

Halo 2 yeah do you play against like pros and shit nerds I don't know about I don't know about I'd fuck you up I played against the old girls I played against Walsh I played against the best do a wager let's do a wager match you want to play one-on-one one-on way okay do you know the one-on settings pro settings I don't even fuck

Come on that warlock I could I don't give carbines starting whatever you want let's do a wager match all right we'll do it i'm dead serious i'll smoke you man no we're gonna use right that's fine yeah that's what played on all right you go you all lose bro bro bro you're gonna get four shot do you know i'll destroy you oh okay now i'm not i'm not playing okay i'm really a gamer for you go get cooked man no it's gonna be good um but yeah so like but back then right used to be able to talk shit roast people whatever may be you might get banned for a day but it wasn't that serious but now like there's been like an explosion like cyber bullying and like over the past like 10 15 years whatever I've noticed in gaming

like they ban you for talking shit I think that's crazy I think trash talking is a part of the game yeah I agree yeah I agree need to be able to tell people they're fucking trash yeah I agree so that's the only way they're gonna get better yeah if they fuck it but dude still though it's just like the delivery your delivery is just like you know bring you the thing that enrages me the most is when people say it's just the game I'm like then why play it yeah like in my head I'm like so wait let me get the straight. You turned on your computer to have fun? No, stop. It is fun. I'm not here to

have fun. I'm here to destroy. I'm here to win. No, I'm here to destroy. Yeah. And I'm not just trying to beat them. I'm trying to destroy them. So I can talk shit after. Your fucking garbage. Your mom's a whore. Your dad wears panties on Thursdays. You probably touches a kid. You suck. Bitch. The fuck out my lobby. You're not going to beat the misogynist allegations, man. Yeah, it is what it is. It is what it is. Oh, it's even better when I see girls come on oh it's lit no we already know what that's like oh why are you not in a kitchen making a sandwich or a man who's superior to you it's fun you know what's funny about it that the whole

thing that it's so interesting is like girl gamers suck though yeah well but back in a day it's funny because all the stuff you're saying is like 100% of people we're saying 10 years ago 5 years ago 10 years ago 10 years ago 100% of people were saying all the same things but what the fuck changed it was a narrative and it was advertisers see advertisers don't want to sponsor things that go against their brand and so they have to sell a certain thing and that's why guys like Nick Merck's for example

he's not allowed at events he's not a lot of call of duty events even though he's one of the biggest people in the game because he said hey maybe keep out that degeneracy from the schools he didn't even say anything that controversial to what he said like keep the gaze

out of the school he had a skin he had a skin and call of duty and they were they took the skin out because of him saying that a lot of these companies are like super woke like Blizzard super woke every single game companies like all these video game companies

are super woke now but like i understand that and i hear that and i know that that's true my question is like what the fuck is the like do do people think that they're just going to protect and coddle everyone like is that well gaming became something to sedate you so it became they're starting to target the same people who get triggered now like i remember like if a girl played video games like she would have to face like crazy ridicule and getting made jokes on her now dude there's a lot of female gamers that like stream and everything else like that there's a lot of like gay dudes that stream or whatever. So like gaming has become way more inclusive. So like says it's become way more

inclusive and they want to keep the base huge. You know, they penalize guys like me that like pretend is 2005 and keep talking shit. Yeah. You're not a gamer. Jesus Christ. No. This is good. You're you're really fucked his night. I've never seen him write so many notes before. He's going to school right now. You fucked his. Oh my God. Sorry, so you're good. All right. You got that. Let's talk about the guy you caught. Herschel Weingrod. So you caught a big, Hollywood director. So we did the Vitality stream yesterday and when we got, well, Myron really could take credit for that. He got somebody arrested. But you did the day before. We were watching that, I think we were watching that live. All right, guys, quick and orange for the podcast,

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didler. But congrats. I'm glad you did that. But I think it points out a pattern. Like if you look at the early life of these people, man. It's just not a coincidence. Yeah. It's, bro. What did you think? How did you feel afterwards? I'm actually curious.

It felt weird. The whole thing felt weird. I mean, I don't know how you guys set it up, but obviously Vitaly has like the whole team who's like, they're like sending these messages. And I talked about this on the mommy daddy pot earlier. I talked about this on the full send pot a little bit. I shout out Vitaly and all of them because obviously he's the reason why I was there. He's doing it.

So shout out to Vitaly for doing this. himself out there like that. Yep. I just, I literally just showed up and they had it all set up. We pulled up in a van and we just thought it was just a random dude, like any dude that we were finding that is like, you're just reading the messages and you're like, oh, he's, he knows that he's this, she's this age and all right, let's go get him.

And then that's all of your Weinstein. I don't know what the fuck. I mean, it's, I don't understand why anyone would ever want that. Because it's all about power and control. They want ultimate power over everybody. And so the most vulnerable and weak people are kids. That was fucking insane. But you're, dude, it's like I sit here and I'm like, I've read about all this shit.

Yeah, yeah. It's frustrating because like, I would love to say yes. Yeah. Look at this shit. You literally can't have these conversations only on X and Rumble, bro. If you put that on YouTube, what we just talked about, videos going down. Yeah, channel's going down. I think channel's going down.

Genuinely. So put it by the paywall, bro. So dialing it back a little bit, right? Yeah, yeah. these ideas of like the world what the fuck's going on how fucking crazy it is power control right all these ideas which is like inevitable in human nature my question is why why but also if it wasn't how it is now right whoever's in power and control they where you fucking want to call them right you get me right it's like if it's not they if it's not they if it's not

them at some point it just ends up being someone else so like my my question is in like human nature and like power and control right you for example got done talking about like how you're super hyper competitive even in video games and it's you should be able to say this the fat people lose the weight you fat whatever it's like I get it those are always going to tend to be the people that get to the top that stay at the top right that are not going to want to give up the top so it's like if it's not whoever it is now whoever it is next or next or next doesn't the same stuff just start to happen anyways yeah i mean you're right bro whoever's in power is going to ensure that not only they hold power but people that have their

same worldview are going to hold power so that you know there's a saying like um you know power um absolute power corrupts right um and it is what it is that's just kind of how it goes because i think this is a human nature like we could sit here all day and say you know it would be like this or it could be like this or this could be a better world if it was like like like you know more more reciprocal more synergy and not like oh i have more power so i'm just going to fucking take advantage of all of it but the reality is like human nature is baked into that where it's like it's that's that's not how humans operate yeah like i don't have a problem with them having power i don't have an issue with that my problem is if you call it out that's when you get silenced you get i'm saying like

i don't have a problem with certain people having i don't care control whatever infrastructures you want to control but my issue is your ability to be able to call it out especially when we live in the United States where it's a free speech country. If it's Australia or one of these other countries where they don't really have free speech like that in the UK, fine, it is what it is. Like in the United States where it's the First Amendment

where you should be able to have free speech, that's where I draw issues. I have an issue with that. I think that there should be people, the elected officials should believe in things that we can agree on that are right from wrong and good for bad. If they don't believe in heaven and hell and that if they don't believe in an afterlife,

then they probably don't have a moral compass that I think is good for the rest of the world. So you should have people that are in charge that know right from wrong and a lot of them don't and also they can't have dual allegiance to other countries and that's the other problem too is that like a lot of these you know people that are in these positions of power they have dual allegiance and a lot of the times this dual allegiance puts us in a precarious situation geopolitically yeah but your point about like believing in a god or like otherwise you're just going to like do something and just take advantage of people

it's human nature yeah but you you don't think that there is just good in people where even if you didn't have that sort of belief that you couldn't be a good person? You can, but it's easier to corrupt those people. Like, it's better to follow somebody who has a strict set of rules about what's right from wrong or else they're going to be able to stray away very

easily. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. That's what the same way. You can be a good person, but these people, they bend and fold much easier without specific guidelines. So you don't think a person could just create their own guidelines, like just being a good person, like whether they're religious or not. But how do we know what that is?

Right? Because you could think like there's certain innate things. But there's a lot of things we disagree on. Like Don Lemon getting married to another man. Do you like, okay, it's not hurting so much. And then where do you draw the line? And then a mother and son are getting married. And then like, well, some people say it's okay.

Like they seem happy. Blah, blah, blah. There should be someone that says, no, this is absolutely wrong. I don't care if they're happy. This is not good in society. Or like a man marrying a dog. Like, yeah, they might be happy. Religion provides those parameters.

You need to have specific guidelines. Because if you just say like, oh, good from bad, then you let humans judge good from bad. and we're flawed. I'm flawed, you're flawed. We are always going to make mistakes. The one perfect thing is God. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not definitely not, definitely not disagreeing with that. Yeah. I hear that. And secularism does breed like degeneracy and a lot of the problems that we have in society now comes from, you know, secularism. So, you know, and I'm not perfect either. You know, but I can objectively look and be like, okay, secularism has created a bunch of

problems that we have right here in modern day society that's, you know, led to the disintegration of the family unit, religion, et cetera, all these like things that used to kind of be in place to keep society pushing forward. The United States was strongest when? 1940s, 1950s, et cetera. And when was,

you know, when we were a very, you know, powerful Christian country, where we prioritized a family, having children, et cetera. But now we're moving more

towards, you know, let's just have fun and party and, you know, more degenerative lifestyle that's more concerned with, you know, today versus the future.

Yeah. But do you, do you guys ever, ever feel that some of the stuff you say you ever hypocritical about your own action. Yeah, of course, man. Nobody is ever going to be perfect. I get that criticism all the time because I'm Muslim and it's like, oh, well, we saw you in, like afterwards, I saw in the

UFC party. Like after the last event, like there was a Sugar Sean was hosting a thing. Like should I have been there? Probably not. Like I probably should. But like the temptation is strong. Like he just want to fight. All my friends are there. All these influences in there. Like I want to go. You know, but does that be. I didn't post that video by the way. No, I know you didn't. But like people will criticize me so much for that. You get these people attack like, look at him here. I know you didn't post it. But it's like, of course we're going to be hypocritical, but that I think is, I actually think that's one of the dumbest criticisms I see from non-believers or the people that think like, oh, just be a good person. It's like,

to look at a human as an example of good and evil is such a dumb idea because we are all susceptible to be corrupted. We are never going to be perfect. And to think that any human is ever going to be perfect is a very silly way to operate. Like you can only look at the most high as an example. Yeah, I think, you know, I've never, you know, I grew up Muslim. I never claim to be super religious or anything like that. But, you know, I acknowledge that like, I think religion solves a lot of problems. Um, you know, obviously it's a great buffer to stay away from stupid shit. But when I dispense my advice a lot of times, I dispense it in a way where it's to deal with the now, right? Like, unfortunately, we don't live in 1950s America anymore where girls are going to be

virgins and, you know, one income can support a household. We live in a very modernized world where things have changed drastically between men and women. And we live in a secular world now. So like, if you're a guy that's super religious, et cetera, and you want to find your dutiful wife that's going to be a virgin, well, you're more than likely not going to find that or worse yet. You find a girl that's a decepticon. She's going to tell you she is or she's going to say that, like, you know, try to create, you know, sell you purity and you're not able to distinguish because you're not experienced with women, right? So I kind of tell guys, hey, this is a new normal that you have to operate in, unfortunately. Yes, it doesn't align with religious scripture, whether it's

Islam, Christianity, or Judaism. However, this is going to set you up to be able to deal with the new normal in the best way so that you're operating from a risk mitigation standpoint. Of course, impervious to it. You're always going to deal with some type of risk. But at least if we can mitigate the risk as much as possible, I think that's the best way for it. So guys just don't get destroyed by the divorce courts and the family courts that we have nowadays, which are set up for guys to lose. The sim culture. Yeah. Why do you think, why do you think, I think you guys have captured an amazing audience? Like, but why do you think you guys get the resistance that you do? To listen to what you actually have to say. With the haters? Yeah. I mean, you call them haters.

Call them whatever you want. Because obviously, like, I think it comes down to the clip. culture where they just see a snippet and then they go fuck this guy he hates women yeah yeah i mean that's a part of it um obviously people on the left are gonna disagree with a multitude of things that we say right right because people would look at us as like far right right would you say yeah they'd consider it's probably far right especially with the other views so they're gonna have they're gonna have a point of contention with like you're a misogynous blah blah blah blah this other stupid shit but um we resonate with a lot of people and i think there is like you know trump winning in 2016 proved that most Americans have their heads on straight and they can see what the fuck is going on. I mean,

most Americans don't trust the government. Most Americans think that COVID was a scam. And a lot of people are waking up, right? Thanks to social media and the ability to be able to put other information out there that isn't necessarily pushed by mainstream narratives, people are able to kind of like look at both sides and come to their own conclusion. A lot of times people tend to err on the side that's more virtuous, the side that's more realistic and the side that's more true, which tends to be more conservative a lot of the time. So I think that helps us, but then of course, you know, the clips, people being super woke, there's still a huge amount of people that are woke. I don't think the resistance, a lot of it is real.

It never manifests in real life. I never see haters come up to me in real life. I think it's just it's easy to go and people are incentivized to make us look bad. Like, it's really easy to go and like, especially if you're speaking this provocatively and you don't really care about, you know, mending to people's feelings, then you're an easy target. So I think it's natural, but I never see it in real life. And I think the perfect example is Donald Trump every time we go to a UFC event. The whole place is an uproar. And he was like, online the most hated man in the world in 2015 you see him today everybody's clapping everybody's excited to see him same thing do you think i've never had anyone saying anything negative to me like

never any haters every time i see somebody in public it's really positive and people are happy i think it's just the nature of social media because what it drives engagement is not something as positive if someone says i love your work get somebody like i guess three likes and they say well just that but but then people start to engage like the internet is incentivizing you to say something negative so you can have the back there's youtube out there that have made like 50 plus videos on us like talking shit like there's way more uh of a market share talking shit about fresh fit or sneko or any of these guys that tend to lean right there's way more money to be made and way more clicks from attacking it versus like agreeing with it right so

you know is there though yeah yeah you get way more engagement for hating because if they if you say something positive oh you're glazing you're dick riding you're you're a fan boy they're just going to go and shut you down by saying something negative you draw the attention it to yourself instead of onto the person that's speaking of reaction content is like really popular so like a lot of YouTubers are reaction channels right let's be honest like they're not necessarily original they just react to shit all day

so no I'm not going to name but but that's like a bunch of YouTubers so like what are you going to be able to do oh okay so who's easy to criticize people that tend to be way more like I guess you can say extreme or whatever but people that tend to lean way more one side are easier to criticize

because like you can go ahead and like use your you know fake morality to say well I'm objective this is extreme so it allows them to like just farm content off you all day like there's a bunch of YouTubers

that have literally made a bunch of money just off of like talking shit about fresh fit taking our stuff out of context making us seem crazy and that's what it is like when you make long form content

you do like podcasting or whatever and you talk about sensitive taboo topics it's very easy to take a minute of that make it look crazy spin a certain narrative and then go ahead and just like engagement from that off a bunch of people

that are just the people on the left like it happens well we get it all the time from the Haram police That's the Muslim community. They are not, if they say something good, like, hey, you're doing good work. You're spreading the message of this. If we ever slip up or if, like, I play music in the beginning of a stream, they'd be like,

that's this. And then they bring the criticism. Or if you gamble. Yeah, or something, anything like that. Yeah. They're going to go and they're going to get more engagement. Yeah. So is there, I mean, obviously there's no fucking exact right way to do any of this stuff.

But do you, have you guys gotten better or have you like, have you gotten any sort of, I don't know like have you gotten less hate or more hate in the last year on twitter Twitter is a lot of love um which is good uh because Twitter is like if you're woke you're gonna get kind of roasted on there it's um but then again there's there's like factions in Twitter like there's a woke side there's like black Twitter there's there's woke Twitter there's conservative Twitter there's you know white Twitter like there's a whole bunch of different things so um Twitter's just a fucking battle all the time It's like, yeah, so I would say, you know, there's always going to be hate because like, you know, like, all it takes is one clip to go viral and then I just get, you know, you're going to, because when a clip goes viral, it gets exposed to people that don't like you, don't like you, don't like you don't like, what the hell, this guy's crazy, so a lot of times they'll be negative, but what ends up happening is interesting because like, you'll go viral and they'll like, let me look into this guy a little bit more. And then I'm like, oh, damn, you guys provide info on this, you guys provide info on that, how to make money, how to get girls, how to invest in real estate.

That's how I found Myron was from a hate video, you know, and then I said, which one, which one? I don't want to give them attention. but like yeah it's just reaction videos like oh fake alpha mail fake alpha male like well actually i started watching their podcast oh they're making good points and now it's funny i get the same exact hate people saying the same stuff about me it's funny because i've never called myself an alpha male never i've never said that either yeah like isn't it funny like i think they've made like videos on you saying look at this fucking toxic alpha male it's like bro none of us have ever said that but they just say toxic alpha male none of us have ever called us that well they're just they're yeah they're just saying it basing off the points and the things that you say or you know

the moments that you have. Yeah, but again, like, reaction YouTube is huge. So, like, you know, there's a bunch of creators that, like, you know, just sit there and just talk shit about other other YouTubers, and it's like an entire economy. So, like, you know, you're always going to target people that tend to lean aggressively one side, so you could go seem as

impartial. And that's what reaction YouTubers are. If you look at them, most of them are, like, fencitters. They don't really have, like, they don't really stand for anything. They're just like, oh, let me just react to this crazy Wokey, let me react to this crazy conservative. And they just kind of sit in the middle, That is more, that's where they're incentivized to stand so that they can make the most amount of reaction content

which generates the most amount of money. And that's why I don't respect most reaction YouTubers because like you guys are not real creators. You guys sit there and react to other people and try to take contrarian points all the time but you don't really stand for anything. You just sit there so you can make money on ad sense. Yeah.

Most of them. What do you guys think about me? Because I'm in a little bit in a weird position. I mean, don't do reaction. You have good conversations with people. You're able to, what I like about your podcast that you talk to people from all different sides. Yeah. Right. Could you go a little harder? Absolutely. For sure. I mean, everybody has their role in this game, right? If we were all far right, fake alpha males, all this stuff, then nobody would have any sort of dialogue and conversation. There's supposed to be people at different points of view. So it's important to have someone who's like, you know, kind of sitting on the fence, but still, you know, it's important. It's important.

And I've talked about this with Sneako before. One thing I respect about you, Brad, that I've always admired was you've been able to kind of reinvent yourself. So like, you know, I've talked about like how fitness YouTube is kind of dead. and you kind of saw that like coming oh yeah you know you can only count your macros and fucking do gym vlogs so many chest day videos you can make yeah so it's like it's like you're one of those like creators that like didn't fall off right like like like i remember seeing you like an era with like Jeff side and Matt August and all these guys they've all falling off like I don't know where any of them are anymore right like especially on YouTube like a lot of the legacy gym shark athletes like they're all like just gone right and just stop making content or they're just slacked off or they're just not relevant anymore. And I still like them. Like I'm like my early 20s

watching these guys. So like you've been able to kind of reinvent yourself and like align yourself with certain creators and stay relevant. And like I think that's like a play in itself. And you've been able to always be fairly objective in like your interviews and who you deal with, et cetera. And, you know, not going too extreme in one way or whatever. Because at the end of the day, you know, and you're in a fitness niche. So like you don't need to go take, give your geopolitical takes or whatever. Like that's not your style. But I think that's, you know, but I think that's That's great, man. You're able to go ahead and network with a multitude of different people with different

viewpoints, et cetera. And it's something I've always admired and respected. He's calling you a grifter and a really nice one. Yeah, that was really sweet of him. Wow. No, man. That was amazing. No, because at the end of the day, like, I don't, I'm not going to shit on someone, right?

Like that has good business acumen because like we might dip. Because we agree on a lot of things, right? We talk, we talk offline and everything else like that. But I respect the fact that's like you're willing to have conversations with people that have opposing views because I do that too like I'm willing to have conversations with like Zionists or people that have different viewpoints than I do or feminist whatever we bring mine to show and have these discussions and and you do it as well which I think is like very admirable so and you've been able to be relevant for a very long time for the better part of like

over a decade dude yeah it's fucking back because most people don't last that long on social media yeah and I appreciate that I do I just I I wish I don't know I wish you specifically I wish you weren't canceled from YouTube because I think you have a lot like to offer I sometimes it's a little bit sort of aggressive the reasons they cancel them are not banned offenses anymore they reverse all the misinformation policies that i was banned for can you apply to come back i did they rejected it i actually reapplied uh last week and they did do you think that comes down to the things you're saying or like just the fact that you've aligned yourself with another company that's like trying to basically no regardless i don't think they'd let me back in they don't need

me like youtube is a multi-billion dollar company and so to reinstate somebody who's a risk to them why would they be incentivized to do that also they want to lead an example they want to have somebody like me to point to and everyone gets afraid to speak about this stuff so they need me to burn and go to rumble but it's like election stuff i'm way happy election stuff like it's all like you could talk about it now i mean people are still scared to talk about it because like you get banned for it or like you get strikes for it but like that stuff like they don't necessarily like you know punish punitive they don't it's not punitive that punitive anymore you know i mean like they don't punish you for so it's just interesting how like the things that he got banned for like are okay

to talk about and they're not reinstating them yeah it's i always have this i keep talking about this conversation, but the same conversation with Don Lemon, not about this specifically, but about the COVID thing and what we knew now and how it was okay then. And he used the example of like, well, it's like marijuana. It's like marijuana at one point was like, you got, you went through it, don't in jail. And then now it's like, and I'm like, these aren't the same fucking things. But it's also interesting how at one point, that was the thing that like, it was like the fucking devil. And now of a sudden it's like the most widely accepted used and like it's monetized everywhere. And now people are getting schizophrenia and they're like, maybe we should

have banned this in the first place. Like weed is not as good as, I'm saying. But I, but I, it's, the thing that I, is always trips me out is like, when we have these conversations, or we talk about these things that I, at, at one point, marijuana was like the fucking devil. Yeah, it's still a schedule one drug in, uh, federally. And it was, but it was like, it was like, now it's like everyone in their mom fucking talks about either smoking weed and I don't do it. I did it for a while and I had my moments in and out of it and it's giving me terrible anxiety when I'm like, okay, I got to give this up. But it's just interesting how at one point it was so bad when it was illegal.

and then when it was monetized it's like it's okay now i still think it should be a legal but i but i don't what i'm saying is yeah i don't understand how people don't see that which is like the biggest change was that it was it was never bad maybe where you're getting it from who knows where it was growing because it was like you know black market type shit but like as soon as it was able to be monetized and money and if in my thing is like if you you can't see that because that's whatever the writing on all this stuff that we're talking about comes back to that when they saw they could profit off when we can make sure we're collecting as much money as possible from this thing it's good now and that's what when i because that's a fact that's not my opinion that's a fucking fact

so it's like how can people not see that and go what the fuck is going on here that's when all these things are like we talk about and it's like what is happening they don't care about us but i don't understand how people can't see that literal fact that actual fact it's not an opinion you can monetize and control it it's acceptable yeah yes that's what's so weird to me and like it's it's so in your face that I think it should still be illegal like you know the thing is is that weed I mean and you you said you know you went in and out with it it's like dude it's not it makes you lethargic there's no real benefit to it people say oh I have anxiety I can't relax like dude like fucking read a book or something like there's ways to relax without using drugs

it's giving me anxiety it gives me yeah yeah and you know I've never smoked weed in my life you know I've never used drugs I'm very anti-drug I think using drugs or even medication to some level you know you want to limit it. So, yeah, man, I think weed just sets you up to, like, people say it's a gateway drug. I truly do think it, like, sets you up to, like, try other things, right? You know, well, you know, let me try some Coke or whatever. And the next thing you know, you're fucking addicted or I know people that can't even sleep unless they drink, unless they smoke weed. That's weird, man.

What are you? I'm trolling you about the Coke thing. And then, like, Sniko's productivity. And yours, too, you said it. Like, your productivity goes way up once you quit. Yeah. Yeah. Did for me. You know, I think, yeah. So I just don't see any real benefits doing it. Like, if you're a multimilil. and you've made it and you're super successful when you want to smoke weed now like a joe rogan cool but i think as a man is you're trying to build yourself up et cetera like weed is only going to inhibit your ability to create something yeah there was there was moments when i was on i was like this is a really good idea though yeah i got some good ideas and then there's like 90% anxiety

yeah i want to sober up now yeah but that 10% don't justify the means you know what i mean yeah yeah it's like yeah it's just like it's like yeah it's just like yeah it's just like every guy that i've ever met that's like a pothead is just stupid like they're slow they're lazy they're lethargic they don't really have this umph like they don't have that passion it's like oh man it's just chilling it's like dude like what the fuck man and it's like i look at it like now like the worst thing you could be as a man in 2024 is an average guy like used to be had to be an average guy like 20 30 years ago before social media and before these girls like all thought that they were like nines and tens because of being on the internet now they're getting hit

by all these guys like used to be able to make 50k per year and get a girl and be like okay awesome i'm we're going to raise a family with this chick whatever but now the worst thing you could be as a man as an average dude that's just scary average women like have access to above average men and i don't think enough guys are like getting this through their fucking skulls that like dude do you not see the fact that like the reason why the relationships have been like completely destroyed is because of social media the internet etc has created this like illusion for so many modern women that they genuinely feel like they deserve a guy that's six or five that makes a hundred thousand plus a year that's good looking and charming charismatic that's like super

liberal and woke and like understands female rights and is a feminist but at the same time pays the fucking bill and takes care of her and is a protector or provider it's like the two don't fucking align you dumb ho the number thing is is like in the internet and social media and TikTok is like programmed women to believe to behave this way and who controls a sexual marketplace the women do for the majority because like average guys don't control the sexual market unless you're a top tier guy the illusion is that uh is that women think that the top tier guy like the millionaire that's hitting him up wants to take them seriously but they just want to pump and dump like crypto they don't actually think that this is wifey material but they

go around through life because they get a couple dms thinking that eventually when i'm 35 and after i've had my fun and my whole phase then i can go settle down with this guy but that guy is going to go stick to a 21 year old who has and online dating right has like exacerbated the problem social media has exacerbated the problem like more women than ever before that actually are getting married are getting married because they met their guy through on like a dating app or like online they didn't meet them like in person so what does that mean well if you're if a bunch of relationships are happening online etc well most guys have a shitty online profile let's keep it a thousand right an average chick can have a thousand followers on instagram mid pictures but still get dms

and still get attention for men that are superior to her in every single way and that's going to do something to your ego like on my show it's kind of like showing it to me in like 4k like you get average girls coming in and like what do you want in a guy and they're like listing out things of a top one percenter and they think the crazy part is i'm like what percentage of men do you think actually meet these requirements they have no idea 50 percent 30 percent all the guys I know meet these requirements. Yeah, that's because you're around successful guys because you're an attractive girl,

but that's not the majority of men. So, like, I think in today's day and age, to bring this all back full circle, in today's day and age as a man, the worst thing you can do is be fucking average. Being average maybe 20 years ago was okay, maybe in the 1950s, it was okay, when you can sustain on one income.

But nowadays, you've got to be exceptional. I think weed only hurts your ability to be the top tier guy. And I'm not saying this, like, I'm telling you to not smoke weeds so you can get late. No, I'm telling you to not smoke wheat so that you could be the best version of yourself,

so you don't have to be saddled with a girl that doesn't fucking deserve you because so many guys settle with a girl that doesn't deserve them that doesn't deserve relationship that's a fucking whore and I don't think hose should get relationships and I don't think they deserve love controversial take but yeah hose don't deserve love fuck that shit but but how many guys dude yeah you know what oh my god we get 10% of yeah yeah there you go we'll write it together but like but so many guys right we'll sit here and like think that they can rescue or save these hos and like they're a good guy come from a good family, maybe have three body count, you know, have good morals in general.

And they think, I'm going to rescue this girl, whatever. And it's like, no, dude, no, you can't. You can't save a hole. Her mind is already fucked from what she's experienced, man. Like, you take a 21-year-old girl in age, you take a 21-year-old guy. That 21-year-old girl has running circles around that guy when it comes to sexuality, dealing with the opposite gender, having way more practice, getting hit by guys all the time, that are higher status than him.

Like, most dudes are fucking clueless of, like, what they're actually up against when they're out here looking for a girl and the worst thing you can do is like not be aware of what the fuck is going on so i want guys to have the best advantage the internet fuck the game up man yeah yeah the internet changed everything the simping is a absolute epidemic right now guys who just watch girl streamers all day and like live vicariously online through streamers and just so i'm so against porn is because these guys are just watching it and living life through the screen and never ever stepping outside it's really like this is why i really think self-improvement is an important aspect of content creation because if they just watch entertainment then they're never going to go outside and

they're going to live vicariously through somebody else who's making money off them. And like what this is done, right? Like it's so this is like this is what feminism is done, right? I talked about this and I think like like all the women that hate me. If you're going to take anything away from this podcast, take away this. What feminism is done, right? And female liberation and female sexuality, et cetera. What it's done is it's inadvertently given all the power and leverage to the top 1% men.

Because now these men have the pick of the litter. Because what they can do now is they can sell the dream to some girls, commit to some other girls and like just kind of rope them along because the guys at the top are having all the girls all the girls are chasing these dudes so they're in a position where they could pick who they want to have sex with pick who they want to give relationships to and kind of just play the field and what happens is these women get poisoned to think this is the caliber of guy that I deserve I've went on a date with him I fucked these kind of guys before how many girls fuck NBA players I think I deserve a celebrity but what they don't realize is yeah you're attractive

enough to fuck these guys or are you attracted enough to keep these guys they don't want to put a ring on it is no most of you hoes don't deserve a good guy you don't deserve a good guy at But they think they do because they fuck them And what women always do Is they conflate Getting sex with getting a relationship And the two are completely different Girls don't get that like

We have a sex only zone And a relationship zone Just like girls like put guys in a friend zone And then a fuck zone Same thing We just put girls in a fucking horror zone Some real shit But like women don't get that

So like if there's a woman here watching right now That's probably pissed off of me Take that piece of advice Are you with the guy that you're talking to right now Whoever the fuck he is Are you in their relationship zone are you in a sex only zone? Is he selling you a dream or not? And girls can't distinguish the two. It's really difficult for them to do it. What they don't understand is they think that

the misogynists, they yell about so much hate women when in reality, we love women more than the feminist that yell so much because we actually want to protect them. We want to keep them in their female state. We want to make sure that they're in control of their emotions. They have a guy that they're going to love that's going to be able to guide them because if women are controlled by their emotions, which they absolutely are, they're never going to make decisions that make sense for their own greater good. And this is why, like, if you look at any religion, or any civilization, really. Why were they all patriarchies?

Why were fathers and brothers so involved in the mating process for women? Because they know that if you leave a girl to her own devices, who's she going to pick? She's going to pick the bad boys. She's going to pick the guy that's an asshole. She's going to pick the guy that is going to give her sexual arousal

in the time being, but that might not be a good suit or long term. So, like, this is why brothers and fathers, et cetera, arranged marriages were such a thing because they know if you leave women to their own devices, they're going to end up single and make themselves horrors. Like, how many girls are here in L.A. or in major cities fucking just right in the cock.

care so complaining about men, I can't find a guy, where'd all the good guys go, et cetera. They're fucking there. It's just that your dumbass is more interested in getting incitement and a charming, charismatic guy than finding a guy that's boring and going to take you seriously and give you a long-term relationship. Because the problem is that when a man is sexually arousing versus a guy that has provider value, et cetera, the two a lot of the time don't align. Like, that guy is boring and he's not able to stimulate her from an arousal standpoint,

the guy that's able to be a good provider. But the guy that arouses her this way isn't able to provide long-term. So it's very difficult for women to find a guy that has both things. The whole thing's frustrating, like, just the way the world has just continually gone to a point where it's like, yo, it's like, I think it just keeps coming down to like the control, but also the coddling, like the keeping someone just feeling like, we all hate each other. Yeah. And that's the thing that's how you do it. That's the thing that is so fucking frustrating to me is like, that's what it all kind of just circles around where it's just like, it is just about the divide. Yeah, I mean, I'll give an example, right?

So like, they got to distract people. So like, you know, when Rome was falling, what did they do? They had like the best spectacles right in the Colosseum to keep people entertained, to keep distracting from what the fuck was really going on. I'll give you an example. So like, and I don't think this was a coincidence, but the day that Andrew Tate got arrested, people don't know this.

They're one of Epstein's financiers that was paying off the victims, like got taken to court. But that didn't get reported because if you had typed in human trafficking or any of this stuff, Andrew Tate's going to come up, not necessarily Jeffrey Epstein, right, or Epstein. So it's like, it's interesting to me how, like, like, you know, we still don't know who's on the fucking list, right? We still don't know what the fuck is going on, right? We know he didn't kill himself. So the guy had links to very powerful people. You see him taking all his pictures, et cetera. No one really knows what the fuck he does. He's at running a shady, um, financier business. He's like a consultant

financially. He's a billionaire. He's a billionaire. He's crazy. Like, yeah, like, no one knows, right? And I did a whole like thing on this. We don't have to go into it. But it's just, it's just crazy me how like they distract you a lot of times from like the bigger problems. Right. When COVID was going on, that's when like YouTube, was growing the most because people were stuck inside and what are they doing they mindless entertainment right from and then if you went ahead and did try to find content on like what the hell's really going on with this pandemic what's really going on with the vaccine etc they censored it right I mean you know it as a creator here if you did anything you even mentioned COVID in your video

you'd immediately be a fucking banner on the thing yeah COVID-19 misinformation etc you can get your channel taken down so they desensit they made it where we're not getting incentivize you to put any type of dissonant information on the internet on this vaccine but now what we're getting info people are dying suddenly from... Yeah, Como came out and said he was one of the biggest proponents of like, get the vaccine

and then he's like, now he has a problem. Pierce Morgan, like all these guys are like, Ben Shapiro, you know, hell, even Trump pushed the vaccine. Ben Shapiro said you're, what did you say? Like, you're dope if you don't get the vaccine. And now all the conservatives are like,

oh, COVID was a control mechanism. These guys were shilling for it. Yeah. They were, man. Are you hot? Are you hot? You were like... Oh, thanks, man.

No, no, are you hot? like you were wiping sweat i mean no i'm okay i'm good i'll turn the acion if i don't know he's cooking so much the heat is this like yeah he's going crazy bro yeah trying to give a good interview you know it's great it's great we're gonna have to cut a lot of this out but it's all good i know it's fuck it's so fuck i hate it but put it on your website or something exclusive bro put it you put this whole podcast on x yeah put out dude fuck it but that's the thing first ex pod but i put it i have pods on x already but if i it's not even about that it's like i put it on x then they're just like oh no but you you push it hours wait a sick you push back and

you push back enough yeah you think so let me be very clear about this like brad doesn't align with a lot of the things that we talk about that he's just opening the platform for us to like be able to speak openly and you're a great interview see a great interview you don't really know where they stand right like Brad kind of like it opens it up he's trying to go he's trying to go me a good no no no but I know off the camera bro a good interviewer fucking you don't really know where they stand you're kind of like you know they're I'm interviewing here whatever yeah yeah you're a great interview bro you guys interview i've said i told you this years ago yeah like you've you've known that so i know where he

stands he's one of us he's one of us come on man you guys are great get banned too get band too you know why we got bad on instagram why did you get they didn't tell us we have no idea my last post on instagram was me training during robin i was a video about like oh fasting and training is hard but i'm going to go do it anyway next day i'm banned they like no reason i never even talked about anything geopolitically i never showed my opinions on there it was just like motivational stuff reels for my streams nothing do you think youtube will ever change no i don't think so they don't have to they're a multi-billion dollar company they're international if you look at the battles that rumbull's going through right now i just i talked to the CEO chris almost every day

he's always in some lawsuit he has to go to court here who's suing him uh well he's suing google and then like they try to get them off the app store and then they file some like brazil they had him testify shut down in russia shut down in saudi shut down in brazil he's always fighting something like there's always so many battles free speech is one of the hardest things to uphold if you're a CEO. So I do respect that guy quite a bit. YouTube is never going to change. Look, they make the most amount of money

from the ad-friendly content, which is like Mr. Beast's videos where they have trannies dancing around or they have like kids videos where they're jumping into pools. Like they're never going to switch back because why would they? They're making so much money.

It's not about truth. It's about money. And if you look at like a lot of the, dude, I mean all the conservative creators like all the big ones now are in Rumble, right? Like you got, we're over there, Sneakos over there, but Don Bongino's over there.

fucking who else the nug pods over there no no pods over there like bar stool yeah they started posting on ramos off full senate i predict rogan's gonna go over there at some point

you know what i mean um yeah dude like i feel like rogan really stretched the fucking nick foences is over there like you can't and you can only find him on rumble or an x i feel like rogan really stretched the that side on spotify like spotify aren't they they're pretty like

they're free speech for the most part yeah yeah but they but they but they would side more liberal no like overall as a company? Depends on what you talk about. Yeah, it's, it's interesting, though. It seems like he really... It's not really liberal and conservative anymore. It's really, like, allegiance to one country

and allegiance to another country. That's really what it is. Like, the political parties are not divided by, like, simple things like taxes and Republican Democrat. It's really about one singular issue. You think it all boils down to that. Yes.

Yeah. Damn. Yeah. The rest is just like... When it comes to social media, at least, it's 100% that. Yeah. Now you can talk about it a bit more, but bro, prior to certain date, no. Hell, man.

Hell, no. And if you do have it, you got to have opposing factions. You can't just like, it's got to be, there's got to be pushback if you're even going to do it. That's why if you look at Pierce and Lex and all that, when they have that discussion, it's always a debate. Never just one guy talking about it without opposition. If you agree, they're going to cut you out. 100%. Fucking shit, man.

You know, it's just crazy, like, you know, I make these jokes that people go, like, crazy, like on YouTube, like, my race is blah, blah, blah. So when Dave was doing it, obviously, like, it was on these mainstream networks. Like, what was it? Comedy Central. Comedy Central, right? Yeah, yeah. At that time where they never like, oh, what's this? They were just like, the climate was completely different back then. Yeah.

You were able to say a lot more than you could say now. Like, the whole culture has shifted completely. I mean, look at now. Like, Chappelle, like, he put a special on Netflix. and the Netflix employees boycotted it. Like they literally like they quit. Like Netflix was like one and a kid. When he made sticks and stones, which I don't even think was that fucking offensive.

They really wanted to cancel them. They like campaign to cancel him. Dude is fucking crazy. You know? That's just what it is like. And here's the thing. Comedians, a lot of the times when they make the jokes that they make that are, that's their political views a lot of times too when they make when they say certain things.

Like because the thing is is that you're able, jokes and comedy is a way to kind of get the truth out there without like. putting it on yourself yeah putting it on yourself and you're able to kind of have like some plausible deniability right like comedians are able to go to an edge right where regular political commentators might not be able to which is why like and they're coming after that that's why like you know i'm glad they did this pushback that's why like a lot of comedians are fighting back against the woke agenda because now they're coming at comedy so like now it's like oh well we can't make certain jokes because it's offensive to a certain group and it's like no man it's starting to get yeah that's that that that is when everyone was like what the fuck you guys do yeah like for example I don't like Andrew Schultz, but I will defend his right to be able to make jokes to say what the fuck he wants to say

despite my personal grievances with him. You know what I mean? Like I think free speech and being able to make jokes or whatever may be regardless of how I might feel about an individual,

that person should be able to say whatever the fuck they want. What personal grievances do you have with him? He's a snake, dude. He's a snake. He brought us on his podcast to try to challenge us on like, you know,

our comments about about Black women. We made a joke saying like we don't dabble in a dark and like him and Akash brought us in. It was clearly like a set up hit job to try to make us look crazy or whatever and I was like wait aren't you guys fucking comedians and make jokes on

this shit and you guys are over here trying to fucking virtual signal to us what the fuck is this so I was like you know and I just thought it was like very weird and snakey to like bring someone on your pod and try to ambush them and like try to like be the moral police they got a lot of hate on it on there if you look at their comments like what the fuck I thought y'all were comedians you know and akash over here trying to like virtual signal and shit it's like bro like I thought you guys were comedians and like it is what it is well they're trying really hard to a piece of black people because they want to be accepted in new york so it was just like uh fucking accepted in new york yeah they want to

I want to be like New York culture is kind of synonymous with black culture. Like he's that they're white and they're like, yeah, I listen to hip hop. So they can't make fun of black women. So they're supposed to defend them. Yeah, I see. So, you know, that's, which I thought was like kind of like just distasteful or whatever. Just like, and there's some other shit behind the scenes. It's just like just snaky behavior.

You know what I mean? Like if you bring someone on your show, right? I always, and you've been on my show before. Like I always treat the guests really well. I don't try to ambush them. I always ask them, hey, anything you want to do you want to stay out? You don't want to talk about. You know what I mean?

Like, I always show my. guess, like the utmost respect and hospitality. It's interesting. I feel like that... What shocked me is that he's a comedian doing that. That's what shocked me. I was like, I get it. But to the overall idea that the illusion of like almost celebrity is kind of dying with

the invent and like the popularity of social media. Yeah. Yeah. Influencers. Like I agree. So I just find it interesting. Like at what point does it all fucking shift? To back to celebrity?

I think the rock is like one of the last ones that like blew up and it's still like relevant now. But like yeah, within like the next 10 years. like a lot of these like a list actors or like these actors are like going to be they're not going to be as popular as like a Logan Paul or like some of these like big influencers but like you look at Logan Paul he's woke now too right when he almost got canceled for the Japan thing super woke now dude you know he's very careful about what he says on his podcast yeah you know uh and I get it when you have an energy drink like a prime et cetera you just you have to have certain beliefs or

whatever and frame yourself in a certain way to avoid cancellation which is fine I get it it is what do you mean when when influencers overtake celebrities is that what you mean No, like when, when like our idea of like a celebrity is like kind of dead, when do you think that's going to hit next 10 to 20 years? I think sooner than that like one to five one to five people don't have the same amount of respect or connection to these people anymore like you see them in a movie or whatever and then like oh they get exposed to going to diggy parties or Epstein's island but I mean you don't think it's because of that necessarily you think it's because like where eyes are now with social creators and like how the interaction is so much

greater because like an artist or like a fucking uh someone in a movie actor whatever right they've never like they're acting and they're in this and they're this role but they're not like hey see what you mean who i am yeah yeah but real influence is being able to change somebody's life saying something that resonates with them speaking they're trying to motivate them inspire them talking about what's going around in the world like having that personal connection with them like we have a really good connection with our audience we talk to them all the time and twitter spaces well that's why we have a strong community yeah yeah that's like having that sort personal relationship where these people are actually like their lives are getting better because

they're listening to the content that is real influence seeing somebody in a movie like oh someone wrote lines for you and you put on a wig like that's not like you'll be like ooh for a second and then what are you going to talk about you don't actually care about this person this person hasn't changed your life you've seen them but you don't actually care about them but i see but see i see your question now so like like like yeah so with traditional celebrities right you're like you're like you're tom cruises you're fucking famous actors right that were like in famous movies right like they were obviously they're very politically correct they're in hollywood you want to get the best role you have to have certain viewpoints believe i see influencers going to that trajectory now too

yeah yeah yeah they're also like when they go to these castings now for people coming up it's like how many followers you have yeah yeah yeah it's also closely now it's a new thing so like since social media is now are social media influencers are like the new celebs right they're now starting to now they're getting publicists now they're watching what they say now they're like doing certain things you know and like a lot of influencers i've met are like just fucking fake let's keep it i'm just gonna keep it a million like a lot of them are fucking fake dude they're one way on camera but they have a completely different belief system off camera and i get it but um but that's where we're going like when i when when andrew shultz pulled that shit i was like

shocked i was like what the fuck is this dude you're we're trying to virtue signal now when cape for black women when it's like aren't you a fucking comedian like you don't understand comedy huh i like anger lost a lot of respect for him after that shit then he freaked out of my guy for taking a clip from his from his thing like we we i asked him hey could we use clips um and he's like yeah sure no problem and then we like to take a clip from that interview put it on our channel he fucking calls one of my uh clippers and freaks out on it i was like what fuck is this shit like i just i was like wow this guy's a fucking wait wait we someone took a clip from his podcast yeah so i asked hey is it cool if we just pull clips from this thing for our clips channel we pulled the clip it was

like 20 30 minutes long did he say yes yeah he said it was okay yeah right and my guy pulls a clip from the interview it's like a two three hour long interview whatever and we pull the clip we put it in there right and you have to put the clip kind of as an entirety so it makes sense um It's like 20, 30 minutes. So I forget how long it was. But either way, like, he calls my fucking clip or freaking out. And I was like, what the fuck? I lost a bunch of respect.

Like he calls him like freaking out like or sent him like the super rude long, angry text. And I was like, what the fuck is this? Because like my thing is like whenever someone comes on my podcast, they want to use clips or whatever. I always tell them, sure, man, you know, try not to put the whole thing there. But, you know, but fucking go ahead, put clip away. Like whatever you want. Like I always share content with people. I mean, hell, you came to our studio.

You filmed our thing. I didn't touch it. I gave it to you in full. Yeah. And then we pulled clips from it before. with that shit man and if someone like does an interview in our thing and it's for their channel I give it to them exclusive you take it and then we can

pull clips from it before but like when he freaked out I was like what the fuck is this? When it comes to celebrities people are starting to wake up about the agendas that they have to push to in order to become famous and maintain their celebrity status. The first two come to mind like when you talk about celebrities I thought about Ice Spice and Zendaya Zendaya in our last movie Challengers for example

I don't know if you saw it but it's about like she's like gets two guys to compete for her and there's this like scene where the tennis movie right and the scene where they're like the gay guys are like competing over her she like they're gay guys in the movie yeah well i mean they're gay but they're like bisexual and they're trying to like compete for zandaya and there's a scene in the trailer where she's looking up like this like doing this stare like ooh look at i'm making them doing dead center of the frame she's wearing a cross like right into it's a zoom in right there

there's a zipper here and there's a cross right here so right over during this degeneracy they go and pinpoint and they're trying to disrespect christianity ice spice on the super bowl half time she's there with taylor swift every time and i saw the super bowl i don't often watch football but I was being a normie whatever I'm watching this thing and every time they put the frame on her they had like a Taylor Swift dedicated camera ice spice is right next to her and every time they put her on she's like dropping devil signs she's wearing an upside down cross like why do they need to do this this is the biggest time the biggest stage she's ever had and they immediately have to disrespect Christianity and push Satanism people are starting to wake up to the fact in order

to maintain celebrity to this status you have to like go through humiliation rituals and you have to push Satanism and I think what they did the John Cena was crazy too what they do to John Like he was naked on the stage at the Grammys. Yeah, nothing. When he walked out with the fucking... People are starting to wake up to this. It's not just a coincidence. These are real agendas.

So you think they're like, yo, wear this fucking thing. And then we'll make you famous. So they're like, yo, her publicist. Who hit her up and was like, yo, put this on? Her publicist gets a suggestion from the leader of the Super Bowl. Like, we think it would be a great idea. Oh, if she wore this cross, it would be provocative in a way. Like, if she wants to get it, she has to wear this and have a wardrobe.

You don't think she just thought that shit would look cool. No, I don't think she has any idea like what she's doing. No. She had done more, bro. This is why she, what does she talk about? Like, let's be real. Like, I don't think that's ice spice. I might run into her.

It's fine. What does she say that resonates with people? Nothing. Like, if you even listen to your music, think I'm the poop, fart. Perk fart. Shit. Damn. I do.

Twerk. That's what she says. Pooping, perking, farting. Like, it's the dumbest possible lyrics ever. I eat you a munch. Like, wait, I eat you for lunch. Munchity poop. It's like a three-year-old could write for lyrics, bro.

That's what she does. What does Zendaya talk about? Does anyone know her opinions on anything? I know she loves Tom Holland. And then she makes fun of him in this movie. Like she doesn't actually like, she doesn't say anything that resonates with people. They prop her up and she's pretty much just a puppet

for these people to destroy culture. A lot of these celebs don't have like real, if you ask like if you try to see what their stances are and anything that it's very ambiguous. You don't know like when The Rock went on Rogan he did like a master class in talking without saying anything. Like that's just what it is. So like anyway, you know, not just to finish off

on the whole situation. Like I just was shocked when that happened. And then when I saw how he treated Steinie, I was like, yeah, now you guys are seeing, like, the real side of this fucking guy. So, and that's with a lot of celebs, bro. Like, you know, people are just snakes and industry, unfortunately. Like, and it's, to me, it's like, and I've learned this now from being in it from like, you know, for almost four years now. Like, I came from a long force of background. Yeah.

They're pretty new. Yeah. We started, we started, we started, we started, we started our first podcast. Wait, I kind of remember that now. Yeah, we started our first podcast, October 24th, 2020. And then now we're in May, post-covid. Like, and now we're in May. Wow.

And when I started the podcast. podcast, I'll still work it for the government, right? So for your honest, I might not know, especially as a Homeland for many years. I worked for Homeland from 2010 to 2020. I was an agent for seven of those years. Do people ever call Cap on that? Like, you're faking that? Some people do, and then I show the receipts. And they're like, after the Vitale stream, like, there's one moment where like he's interviewing the pedo and trying to get information. He turns on his Apple Watch to start recording. I think everybody's like, okay, only a Fed would think to do this. This guy's clearly has a background of this. I mean, it, bro. Apple Watch?

Come on. It is what is. But the point is, is like, I'm sure. I'm surprised you wear an Apple Watch. Like, Andrew Tate, like, you know, not good. Yeah, I got Rolex as shit, too, but, like, I don't wear them as much. But, like, so I come from this industry, right, where it's like law enforcement, you know, it's, you know, tend to be more conservative. A lot of, you know, I work with mostly Caucasian white man. It is what it is, right? Like, we have a brotherhood.

It's like, you're hitting a house with someone. Like, you don't know what's on the other side of that door. There's that camaraderies. There's that trust. Like, you know, it's not very, like, snaky. Because you can't afford to be sneaky in the law enforcement world. if you are no one works with you no one wants to help you with raids no one wants to fucking no one trusts you because you have to rely on that person you have to rely on them

yeah so like i come from a background where like there's real deep trust and real unity right so i come into this fucking entertainment industry it's the whole other way everyone's a snake everyone's out to fucking um you know if if it's convenient to hate on you and make a hippie on you they're going to do it right they're not going to take your back and to me i was like what the fuck is this bullshit like this is weird to me right and one of the things that i get criticized for all the time is like marron you're too loyal well guess what If you're my friend, you're my friend. If someone made a hip piece on you, I'm going to defend you.

If someone makes a hippie piece on Andrew Tate, on sneaker, whatever may be, I'm going to defend you because I know you. So I'm like, yo, I know the man. Fuck you, motherfuckers. I don't care what y'all think or what the fuck is out there. I know them. I know they're a good person. I'm going to stand by them, right?

But like, that's something that's kind of like a foreign concept in social media and entertainment in general. It's like if it's popular to hate on somebody. Oh, my God. Like they're going to do it. And I just, like, that's a foreign concept to me. Like that. loyalty no backbone no spine etc so like when it happens to me i'm like shocked i'm used to it but

yeah i remember at one point my career where or everyone fucking hated on me because some dude got in and lied about like a relationship with his girl said i try to like sleep with his girl all this crazy shit try to steal his company from him i don't remember that yeah it was years ago years and years ago i remember i lost 70 000 subscribers overnight bruh yes yeah yeah that's a whole channel right there's a whole channel listen and it was right when i was hitting a million subscribers on YouTube. The first time I hit a million, boom, because say, just say whatever the fuck you want, you can just like, they can just slander you and just like, yo, I'm good, that person's bad. No matter what the actual truth is. And I'll never forget how many motherfuckers, because at

this point, I'm like going viral, like picking up hitting on girls at Gold's Gym in Venice is going viral. All these videos are going viral. So it's the perfect time to talk shit about me, right? Yeah. Which is when it normally happens. Yep. Because, oh, I can get views. I can put his name in a title. Yep. I can't tell you how many motherfuckers were like, yo, oh, I want to clap. with you when I come out to LA this shit happen shit people started talking shit quiet not quiet

they got on the train yeah fuck that guy well anything you could the guys who were in my fucking DMs the week before literally days before being like you know when I come out let's film a video you know it's funny I think they can make a fucking video and talk shit about me they all ran with it for views maybe that's why we disagree I think I look like the guy

that you dislike so much what do I look like that dude no wait what who are you talking about we're talking about someone different but you know what I'm talking about right no no no no it's not that guy it's a different guy it's not that guy this was before that oh yeah this was years before that this was year for that way before that this is like a long time ago this is like i was subscribed when you had like 80k yeah so this was like i mean dude this

fucking do you want to say i mean if you don't want to say no it has no there's no need but they all switch when it's convenient exactly like and i and i was that's when i i swear to god i I remember being like, yo, I don't even want to do this anymore. Like I, I was so fucking angry. But you bounced back and you kept on pushing. Well, I just kept going. But I can't lie. There were so many moments.

I was like, yo, fuck, these people switched on me like this. And like anyone could just, that's when I was, I really saw it. You could just say anything about anyone. And have no actual proof. No actual. Here's a crazy part, dude. This is fucking real. They're always.

So they're always going to run with the lie more if it's more entertaining. Like, no one gives a fuck about the truth if the lie is more entertaining. Oh, my God, bro. Like, for example. example right like everyone fucking came after fresh with this fucking pregnancy bullshit right and people were like my need to leave fresh who is the liability all this other bullshit and i'm like not fucking going anywhere we started this shit together we're going to end it together i'll die on this fucking ship that's how it's going to go if i'm with you i'm with you people said

shit about andrew tape being a human trafficker or whatever i went ahead look the evidence did multiple videos showing that these fucking bitches are lying right well and now they all dropped it now yeah and now it's like looking crazy and shit like that right like everyone looks at the evidence like the bitches are coming in and out of the house I showed the footage. Oh, wow, what the fuck? These are girls that made the accusations. One girl made a career out of this shit.

But the public, no one puts this shit out. So I'm like, yo, I got a platform. I'm going to protect my friends. So like when this whole shit happened with fresh, right? This bitch lied. Bro, she went ahead. She aborted the baby weeks before. But she went ahead and did a whole press on.

She killed the baby. So she doesn't have the baby. No, no baby. Even when she went on the video saying all this shit. Dude, she went ahead. She went on age three. She collaborated with all these fucking guys. Right?

She went did all this. She did a whole process. restaurant. Baby was dead, bro, the whole time. No baby. That's fucking demonic. She used it. There's no way to do a pressure. We got to do. We got the proof. I exposed it. She went and got an abortion on April 15th. And there's like, there's, there's receipts of this. See, what she did was she fucked up. She went ahead and she put like her actual like, she put the day that she went to go see the doctor to like, um, to like verify she was pregnant, but she went to a fucking planned parenthood. So she had started the abortion process like then and there and got the

and then by the 15th it was gone but she had started taking the medication and saw the doctor on the 5th and then like what I did was do my investigative skills right like I had her date birth date of birth and then this fucking guy comes forward and gives me footage of her being an escort before and gives me

like documents showing that she got fired for a job from a job I don't care about none of that I don't care about none of that but that's how I was able to link it back to her is my point so but you're telling me when she was saying all this stuff about fresh she used a dead baby for clout that is yeah insane very demonic I

So the other shit I showed was just to show that this isn't a trustworthy person Because she got fired from a job from like embezzling and doing all so the shit That's a whole other thing And I had like the Chinese documents and went ahead and got him transcribed and everything Have you guys talked about this on your pod yet? I have okay I did like an expose video on that's insane But the bottom line is this baby was gone in the mid she had started the abortion process in early April And she called fresh on multiple occasions recording it like she had a whole like press run plan

Well when she asked that one question I was like ah this seems really fishy when she goes what are you going to do to me Yeah That's what I was like And shout out to you Because you can't We had a discussion I appreciate you Like coming forward

And given like In Vegas Just you guys know Brad's a stand up guy When this shit was all popping off And it was like in the middle of it Like you came over And gave some like really

Positive words I appreciate that Bro supporting us And you were kind of like Hey this shit is fishy Yeah bro Baby was As soon as I heard that

When me and you were talking Bro the baby was gone That's and I found out later That's crazy dude Yep That's I mean But it doesn't surprise me But again

But again what's everyone Going to say Oh he this guy Told her again Abortion blah blah blah Bro, she had that already in her mind from when she made the recorded phone calls and released it. The crazy part is how important Red Pill content is because I saw so many of the fresh and fit fans switch. When this happened and they see a woman who's getting on there trying to lie for clout, they immediately believe the woman.

And the whole point of Red Pill content is to be aware of female fuckery and be aware of the fact that women are going to try to manipulate successful men. But do you think they actually switch to those are just the people who were just ready to be like, I got you? I think it's a lot of simps who just believed a woman too. It's both. So many guys both. It's both. Like there's a lot of guys that like, hey, fresh, right? Just because, like, the thing I've always said is, like, the reason why so many people

dislike him is because, like, he's an average guy. He's not super tall, not the best looking. He speaks with a stutter, right? He's not like some jack guy or whatever. He's like an average fucking dude, but he's doing really well for himself. So people look at him and be like, wait, you just like me, how the fuck does he get money and bitches? Like, this is pissing me off.

And then, like, they think to themselves, oh, he's got to be tricking. He's got to be doing something. He's got to be paying for it. Like, because they see themselves in him, right? it's easy for them to look at a guy like you, look at a guy like me. Well, they're jacked and tall. Of course they're going to be good with women. And they got nice teeth.

Like, they have all these excuses in their head as to why, like, we're in a position that we're in. But like, when they see someone like Fresh, there's no excuses. He's just like you. What's your excuse? He stutters too. And he's socially awkward. He's not, he's been a nerd too.

They don't have anything to say. So, like, they have to point the finger because he shons a spotlight on them. That was the whole beef or whatever with Moist Critical back in the day was because Morris Critical saw Fresh. And it's like, it's kind of a reflection of someone's own inadequacies. seeing like a guy like him could become a multi-millionaire could get with a bunch of women

is like he must be lying there must be some sort of fraud and I know the guy personally that's why I defended him and you know I got in a lot of beef like talking about this because I know the guy and I know that like immediately

they're going to try to call him a fake alpha male but it's another reason why the Red Bull content is so necessary right now yeah but yeah this me too shit bro it's like it's getting crazy out here

like obviously they didn't make no allegation on that but like they try to put like a and here's other thing we don't even know if it's his kid she was hooking up with other dudes during that period probably wasn't as

well I remember having a conversation with him fucking years ago when I went to your father the first time and he was like he couldn't even have kids low key like I remember okay that hey you guys heard it here I remember I'm literally this I've had this conversation because I was talking him about wanting to have kids yeah yeah in his I remember like not on camera it was just in his condo like whatever in that high rise

is that public? I think he's talked about me hey you know what fuck it oh I keep if I didn't say it's fine well you know what look now we even know because that was another thing that we were like like this girl something's off here like because the timing and keep she did a pregnancy test the week before she left this all started because he didn't want to get her an apartment she didn't want to get an apartment so stupid she goes back to new york angry but she had done a pregnancy test she test negative

for it right before and then a week later she calls and recorded that shit and says i'm pregnant and like says i'm pregnant what are you going to do to me blah blah blah asking these fishing questions that we talked about yeah that was interesting but like four days later she's at the planned parenthood starting the abortion process because on the paperwork it says term to elect pregnancy. Like it shows there why she went. So she got the pills then and I started taking them. So the baby was gone by the time she did her whole press run.

But she used it to like, look, she starts a fucking, she has a YouTube channel, pushes her Twitter, all this shit, push her Instagram. So it's like, if anything, like look, I'm going to, you know, obviously fresh took accountability. He fucked up. He knows this shit, right? That's why he didn't really talk about it publicly. I did.

Right. He got a lawyer involved, a lot of other stuff. But, you know, guys just need to really be careful and learn from this. A lot of guys would have folded in the same situation. Like one thing I've seen from Myron, especially because he comes from a law enforcement background, is that when you get these trials and tribulations, when you face adversity like this, especially in the content game, the only solution is to just keep on working, is to keep on pushing.

And I've seen a lot of other people, especially if they only done content their entire lives, is that under a similar amount of pressure, they literally have a mental breakdown. They fold. They quit. They give up. They complain about their mental health. They take years longer. But the best solution to all this problem is just to keep on going, bro.

Because they turn it out into it. a W really quickly. Like everybody was piling on this. She got roasted on whatever yesterday. Let's go. And then within a couple of weeks, all they did was just they just kept on going, went viral for this, had a W with the Jubilee podcast and just right back to business. Was that a shot at Fusi? No, it's not a shot of Fusi. No. There's so many people like that. There's so many guys like that that give up like that when they if they, because that wasn't even adversity. That was like his own struggles. But facing like online attacks and getting all these people. It's like compared to what you see in the real world.

Like people talking shit online that's like, you know, I'm kind of, I'm going to have to beat myself up a little bit here. No, I know. I got to beat myself. I'm going to take a little bit of accountability here. Like I genuine, the day that that shit happened when he had the breakdown and got arrested, he called me that night. And he said, yo, I'm over here because he wasn't far away. He was like in downtown Miami. He was like, yo, pull up.

I'm here with my buddy. Come by because we had never met a person. We had been talking about meeting a person. He was supposed to come on the podcast the next day. That day, yeah. Yeah. I think that was like a Tuesday happened. He was supposed to come like the next day.

And I was like super tired because I had not slept and I was like oh dude I'm dead but I'll see you tomorrow But then in my head I'm thinking like bro what if I had fucking just went over there like that shit wouldn't have happened if I was over there Yeah that's I would have like in my opinion bro's probably inevitable like he wasn't he wasn't listening to any advice We all tried like yeah I was calling that day too like don't like you always think in your head like what if like what if I wasn't fucking dead that day and I went over there and I chow with him and maybe I could have like you know what I mean like diffuse the situation cops weren't involved But even where he is now, right, he came back and he proved that he just, he kind of didn't want to keep doing it because he deals with too much. I mean, dude, he's in San Diego, I think, with his, with his family now. I was playing call duty with him like a couple weeks ago. He seems fine.

He's been in the game a while, man. I wish him the best, bro. Like, you know, I genuinely do believe, like, if you're in a content creation game and you're making the kind of money that a lot of us make doing this stuff, man, it's a fucking blessing. Because I come from, dude, I used to work in McDonald's. I did, like, a fucking landscaping. I've done, like, a lot of these hard jobs, law enforcement, et cetera. Like, when you do, like, when you do, like, real work. working you have like a job and a boss and like a chain of command and everything like we're really

like privileged and blessed like that's why like when hasan said this dumb shit about like bro being a shimmer so hard like I was like bro in comparison to what dude like shut up like you come from a rich background you're champagne fucking socialist like shut up dude you don't know what the fuck you're talking about you probably never done a real job in your life so it's like you know a lot people don't know yeah like i understand the sort of stress or like they but it's like dude I'd rather take this than anything than like a real job right like you know where you're like working for a boss and being told what to do at least here you have like the autonomy to like kind of go at your pace and do things of course it's still on you it's a lot of responsibility

being an entrepreneur is not easy but um but if you make it and you're like building like uh especially like what you know some of us get do really well financially it's like it's a blessing bro so like you can't like again when you see dead kids on the southwest border in loretto texas like i did right get eaten by coyotes and shit like that because they're out there and by coyotes yeah dude like the dead bodies are there for a while because one's up happening right I don't want to go into a whole explanation of how human smuggling works in the United States. But like when they smuggle these illegal aliens in, they're just looking at them as like dollar bills, etc. So if they can't keep going on with like because a lot of them are dehydrated, tired, having eaten in days, et cetera.

They've been traveling for weeks or months on end, right, in their journey. Like if they can't travel, they'll just leave them out there in the brush. And then like border patrol come across it. They'll find the dead bodies. And then they'll find the tracking. And then they'll find the group. And then what will happen is like a lot of times if the coyote left those people to die, I'll go after them and charge them like murder. like illegal smuggling with the murder enhancement

because they left them there to die. Oh, that's the thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, if you, because there's been plenty of situations like this where, like, a popular place to smuggle aliens also is like when the tractor trailers,

you put them in the wind jammer on top. Like, you can hide two or three of them, but a lot of them suffocate in there. Or if they put them in the back of trucks, there was a big case like this in San Antonio. I was actually involved in a couple years ago. There was like 80 of them in the back of a truck. He left them over there in August.

Like, and like 50 of them, Yeah, hot. 50 of them died. Like, because he left them in like in a Walmart in San Antonio, like he didn't give them water, nothing left in there because he didn't want to get caught and, uh, they died. So like, that's an enhancement, right? Or they're running away from like the police and they got smoke. But how do you prove that like those are their people that they're smuggling? So what ends up happening is like, so when they can, when Border Patrol catches a group, right? The first thing they do is they call Homeland Security investigations. They call us, we show up and they're like, hey, we suspect the smuggler is this guy. Typically as the driver of the car

or the leader of the group and then the people that are in the group will identify yeah this is the people call them coyotes but we call the principal this person was a smuggler and then that's the person like if someone died getting paid to do that right yes so it's anyone that comes

90 plus percent of illegal aliens that come into the United States come in through a sophisticated human smuggling organization and the reason why is because you can't come to United States and get across the Mexican border unless you pay something called a quota which is when you pay the quota, you got to pay, typically back when I was on a job, it was like two, three thousand dollars to cross the Rio Grande River, right, if it's Laredo, but in other places to cross the border. You have to pay the cartel that's in charge, right? The smuggling organization got to pay the cartel that's in charge because they run the area. So the cartels don't necessarily run human smuggling, but there's human smuggling organizations that operate in their territory that they have to pay the tax to run their human smuggling business. Drug traffickers, too. So what ends up happening is when they get smuggled in, it's organization. There's someone Mexico that facilitates their smuggling once they get into the United States, there's someone on that side picking them up. Then there's a stash house operator. It's a whole, I could go into a

whole spieless. I don't know how detailed do you want me to go. No, it's super interesting to me. Yeah, human smuggling. Like there's like a whole like thing on it. There's a Mexican side that's involved in it. There's a national side that's involved in it. There's an American cell that's involved in it that facilitates their smuggling into the country and getting into their destination city. How long did you work this job? I was on from 2013 to 2020. And I specialized in human smuggling, drug trafficking, firearms. How did you get to that job? So I was an intern at Northeastern University from 2010 to 2013, and then I did a good job.

So they just pretty much was, they converted me from an intern to a special agent. I went to the academy. I was there for six, almost seven months. It's in Glenco, Georgia, Fletsey, it's called Federal Law Enforcement Training Center. I was there. And then I went to my first duty station, Laredo, Texas. And I got there in August of 2014. I left in 2018, four years later.

Does that require like much schooling or is it just? They always send new agents to the border because they're so fucking busy there, dude. They're smuggling drugs and illegal aliens and moving weapons. So drugs and illegal aliens come north, weapons and money goes south. So we're busting, you know, millions of dollars going into Mexico, guns going into Mexico because guns are illegal in Mexico. But they're illegal in Texas and they're easy to procure. So what a lot of people do is they're straw purchasers. I worked very closely with ATF, FBI and all this shit.

And, you know, they buy the guns in bulk and they smuggle them into Mexico. And then those guns are given to the cartels to fight the Mexican Marines. At the time when I was there, the Losetas ran Nueva Laredo, which is across the border from Laredo, Texas, and Tamilipas, the state of Mexico. And, dude, there was a war going on. Like, I remember vividly because where I used to live, you go fucking Google the shit. Google Carmel apartments in Laredo, Texas. If you look at it, it's right on the Rio Grande River.

I could step out from my apartment, dude. I'd hear fucking gunfire all the time. And that was over in Mexico because the Mexican Marines were fighting the fucking Zetas. Because at the Zetas are the most militarized

they're called cartel in the rest of the now. I think they took over. But they're the most militarized Mexican cartel, one of the most violent over El Chapo's gang over there. So they were getting in wars

like every day. You hear the gunshots and the military had to come in. The police were corrupt. They can't do shit. So the Mexican Marines versus the cartel. Every day, dude, I hear fucking gunshots.

And then you start streaming and then you hear like other streamers like, I don't want to stream. I'm addicted to drugs. This is like, Someone left a mean comment on my YouTube video. I can't stream. And that's why to me,

like, this is the world that I was in for so long. So, like, I come into the entertainment world, right? I'm fucking used to busting houses and you go in there

and there's loads of fucking coke and shit. Money everywhere. Illegal aliens, guns everywhere. Right? We're going after, like, really bad people.

And you trust the person that's next to you. And then I come into the entertainment industry and people are coming to my house doing a collab with me, then fucking snakeing me after. Yeah, so to me,

I was like, it was like a fucking, what the fuck is this? It was like a foreign world. But like, but yeah, dude. And then I also did child exploitation too. But like I didn't really investigate the cases. I was more involved in like busting them.

Because I didn't like, you have to look at child porn if you're going to be a child porn agent. You have to look at it. Did you ever see it? I've seen images. It's fucking terrible. Yeah. Because you have to, you have to confirm and stuff like that. You got to put in the database called Nekmic, which, you know, national, it's a database that like looks for missing and exploited children.

And what ends up happening is if you get like CP, we call it CP you put it into this database and it like we'll tell you if it's like a missing child or confirms if it's actual child point and then that's how you I did a pod with Dr. Phil and he was mentioning something about what happens at the border yeah and he was saying something how and I want I don't know if you know this to be true or not he was saying how like kids will get smuggled in to the states with like barcodes on them to places that they're supposed to go yeah and border patrol agents like can't do anything about it they just let it happen no so what ends up happening is this. So like it depends, right? So immigration is like one of these like

things that is heavily enforced or not enforced depending on who's in office. Anytime there's a Democrat in office, I've seen this like, it's kind of like cyclical. We had a border crisis when Obama was in. We haven't it right now with Biden. Whenever there's a Democrat in, typically immigration is not as heavily enforced between Border Patrol and ICE, right? So think of Border Patrol is like, they're the front lines. They're dealing with the immigration problem at the border. And then you've got Immigration Customs Enforcement ICE, deportation officers, deal dealing with the aliens that are already in they prioritize criminal aliens

not necessarily people that are just here illegally right that's why one of those guys we caught remember yesterday he said oh I crossed in 2006 but he didn't have an alien and asked him what's your alien registration number he didn't have one the reason why is because he's never dealt with law enforcement well immigration and that happens a lot of the times when you know if they've never committed a crime or whatever until we caught him they won't deal with immigration

and that's where ice comes in and deals with them because which only has authority 30 miles from the functional border is that like that in every state or just California what do you mean as far as like ice being enforced right well ice is federal so but but when there's a Democrat in there are a lot more lax than like going after illegal aliens they prioritize criminal aliens and even that when there's Democrat in they they're even reluctant to do that so if he was in a different state and he never had papers in 2006 would it be the same scenario um there's a higher likelihood like if he was like in Texas and he was like living closer to the border there'd be a higher

likelihood he would he would face like some consequences but that's why a lot of illegal aliens they come into the United States, they go to San Francisco, L.A., New York, like, even Austin, Texas is like really liberal about that, despite being in a red state like Texas. But to answer your question with the bar codes, so the, so when Border Patrol catches them out the border bro, nine out of ten times they give them something called the ER, an expedited removal, just send them back, right? Unless like they have asylum or some like credible fear, but most of the time they're just sent back ER. But if they're not caught, right, and they make it into the United States, what ends up happening is you'll have the coyote walks them across.

bus, right? And they get them in the brush or whatever may be. Then their driver comes and picks them up off like a highway. Once they get picked up at the highway, they get taken to a stash house. That's the first staging location. Once they're at that stagehouse, they typically have to pay more to get moved north, right? They got to pay another thousand bucks, whatever fucking it may be, right? To that smuggler that has that leg of the situation. Because it's compartmentalized where there's different legs of the trip. So that smuggler, he doesn't want to keep the aliens there, so they don't charge as much. Hey, I just need this guy the fuck out of here because when you're on the border, you know, you have a border

has more authority because it's considered the functional equivalent of the border. So, you know, they're searching houses and they're on the border. So they've got to get those aliens out of there. So, like, what they're trying to do is get them north as quickly as possible. They want to get them to San Antonio. Like when I was in Laredo, the first destination is almost always San Antonio because Interstate Highway 35 is right there. Take them there. And then from San Antonio, you got Interstate 10, which takes you from Jacksonville on the East Coast all the way to L.A. on the west coast, right? And it goes through a bunch of major cities on the way. So they get them in San Antonio, they're pretty much safe

because there's no border patrol up there in San Antonio because it's not the functional equivalent to the border where they have authority and local police are way more reluctant

to enforce any type of immigration crime way more reluctant like LAPD they wouldn't even ask your alienage NYPD these sanctuary cities these police won't even

ask alienage because they want to stay away from it it's politically bad mayors will even say don't fucking ask these questions

because it's a federal thing so once they get to San Antonio they want they want federal agents to ask and not local well two reasons number one a lot of these blue

mayors they don't want to touch immigration number one they want to say we're a sanctuary city and then number two the police don't even have the authority to really enforce it's called title eight which is immigration they don't have the authority to do it so but they don't even want them calling immigration a lot of times they'll just say hey just fucking

if they didn't commit a crime that's a state crime like getting them the fuck out here how was it like let him go let him go dude I've had it before where we've had detainers on motherfuckers which when let's say you got a criminal alien right there in jail right and you put immigration

will put a detainer on him because we want to go and pick them up, right? Or ICE wants to go pick him up. The police will let him go. We don't got to abide by this fucking detainer even though it's federal. We don't care. Was it different under Trump? Under Trump, he was super pro law enforcement. They were fucking getting rid of people.

Yeah. We're sending everybody back. We're sending everybody back. Such a. So they're, they what? Because the. Oh, to finish. Sorry.

So they get to San Antonio. Then when they get to. No, no, no. Back on the Trump. thing. So like you're saying, okay, there's a different political leader, right? Different president. Yeah. So they just like, hey, by the way, local PD like get them this time or not. Like what are they like, you know what I'm saying? Like what? So that's up to the discretion of the mayor. So like a lot of mayors are just hands off with immigration. They don't even want to. So is it the mayor or is the president? That's a, that's, you know what I'm saying? Well, here's a thing. So like if, if, if, if you're in a like in a sanctuary city, like in New York, even if Trump's in office, he's pro enforcement immigration. The mayor can always say, well, I don't want my pediatric. asking immigration questions. They don't have the authority anyway. And they kind of hide behind that because they have state authority. They don't have federal authority. Immigration is inherently

federal. Right. So my question is, does it actually take an effect differently based on the president? Because you just said it did. But then it sounds like it doesn't. How much power does the president have? Yeah. So it's up to the mayor. The mayor still has like kind of final say on how he's going to tell his local police to handle it. But it tends to be when there's a Republican in office from the presidential standpoint, we're a lot harder on immigration. Because what they'll do is. Even in the blue states? harder like the blues they still have jurisdiction right i mean sorry they still have like some kind of like semblance of what they want to do but republican presidents are or tend to be more like okay well

we're going to penalize you if you don't honors these immigration detainers got it okay they'll cut funding they'll penalize them to some degree so they're more likely to to cooperate but some of them say fuck it i don't care i'm not going to my police department is not going to enforce and or deal with immigration got it some cities like New York San Fran LA yeah that's why when Vitale had that one predator on that was like an illegal animal meth and like he told LAPD guy hey he's an illegal alien the LAPD goes I don't care about that because they there's so many they don't yeah there's so many they don't have the authority to enforce it anyway it's a taboo subject L.A is woke it's like no benefit to them to enforce immigration you might find

some cops that are like go like you know they bleed blue depend on the cop it could depend on him too because he could be like he could bleed blue and be like you know fuck it this guy's here illegally I'm gonna I got a contact that ice I'm gonna call ice right so because it comes out to the person then for the most far it could come it definitely could come down to the officer discretion as well but like in general a lot of the times they'll tell him hands off depending on the PD like San Antonio PD for example they think you're illegal they're probably going to call immigration or whatever because like it's a red it's a red state to you know they're they understand that a lot of these guys are involved in the various activity, drug traffickers, whatever,

you'll have a higher likelihood. But then you go, you know, a couple miles up north to Austin, Texas, they're not touching it. Interesting. Yeah, I see. That's all that's just so interesting to me because I've never actually asked any questions. But like, everything you said is like someone could fact check you all that shit. Oh, yeah. I mean, and the other thing, too, is like you're not going to see a lot of this because

a lot of the stuff is like on the job experience. Like, you know, one of the things is like, you know, there's a lot of federal agents that like, you know, I've been on the job, whatever. But how many arrested you do? How many title thirtle threes have you ran? How many your search warrants have you done? Like these are like the real questions I ask to see like what the fuck you've really done. Because a lot of FBI agents, DEA, just whatever the fuck it may be, home HSI agents.

We're all the same. We're all 1811s in the job series code, especially the same shit. They haven't made arrests like that. They haven't done shit. So like one thing about me that I pride myself on is like I made arrests. I've hit the news many times on my cases. I've done all different types of crimes. Like I've worked with like almost every agency.

So like I have a very good grasp on like how different agencies work, the federal laws, how search warrants work, et cetera. like the whole ditty case i broke that down too i anticipate he's going to be fucking indicted somewhere in the next year for sure 100% dude for them to get a federal search warrant in different jurisdictions tell me that they number one they got informants 100 and then number two it's very difficult to get a search warrant on a house federally very difficult so the fact that they got it because people don't know when you go federal federal prosecutors have a lot of leeway and a lot of um what's the word discretion on what

they want to take and what they don't want to take. Feds don't take case unless they're going to win. And they don't, damn sure, don't issue search warrants unless they think they're going to lead to a charge. Who are the informants? Other musicians? I would, people that have been in the house. So it could be other musicians. It could be housekeepers. It could be fucking, I guarantee Cassie probably gave some good information. Oh yeah. She started that whole lawsuit that I guess she started the lawsuit. I guarantee you, she was probably one of the first people, because it's actually the agency I used to work for that did the race. Who's Cassie? One of his ex-girlfriends.

Okay. Yeah. You know, um, she came out. that song, Me and you. Which is ain't shit, man. Yeah, they ain't, bro. Fucking a girl. But I guarantee, they went to her first,

interviewed her. She probably provided a bunch of information, identified other people that they go talk to. Those people talk. They say, hey, yeah, I've been to his house before XYZ. You got a bunch of people saying

the same shit about the same residences. That's all probable cause. Write it up. Get a search warrant in two different jurisdictions. So if you had to bet, if you made a bets on this, you gambled on this, because I know you love gambling.

Come on, I'm fucking with you. Sorry. I'm sorry because he'll troll me he texts me he's like we're gonna gamble after I'm like yeah

it's a joke it's a joke bro I know At least I don't promote it I'm not a gambling man but I would anticipate that you will see charges sometime in 2024

or early 2025 For what On Pete Diddy Probably for human trafficking The prosecutors that take What the fuck is that motherfucker doing human trafficking Okay so this is how the feds

This is how the feds do this When it comes to human trafficking A lot of the times It's not like what people think They're in a cage And they're being held against their will a lot of the times when the feds come in and it's human trafficking nine under 10 times the person was underage and they were being like prostituted right but if the person is under 18 they can't consent so it's automatically federal especially if they're moving state lines like he was that's how they got our kelly so he's fuck with underage kids yeah because i think some of the victims that they're alleging were underage and i think that's that's where they probably got a majority of their probable cause

because the feds come in a lot of times when there's underage people underage and they're being moving state being moved um effect the interstate commerce is what it's called to trigger the federal effect but they're being moved from state to state for the purposes of some type of sex there's probably so much evidence on camera too and then you got a bunch of people I know for a fact they got informants I know for a fact that like these people that filed the lawsuits probably also are providing information then there's other people that provide info I mean dude they got in Trump's house

and they had pictures how are you gonna get pictures like that inside the housekeepers and shit are coming forward and people whoever they have that guy's like selling like the Epstein shit like selling sex with people like underage people

yeah I wouldn't be surprised if like you know I've heard from a couple of people in the music industry like that's how they compromise you just like have you do some weird shit and like all right yo as long as you do what we say as an adult potentially we don't know we don't know so crazy man you know that whole thing so i just wish the people that see the clips of uh myron kicking out girls i wish they would hear some more of this about his background as a fed and like his information like yeah yeah well that's why i want to talk

when i started here because like i i know that you've talked about these things that i know that you just doesn't go viral yeah it doesn't go viral yeah it's boring that's what i'm saying i've only seen little bits of it where like I know that you you said that you've done this. Yeah. And then that's it. You know, you never see all the detail behind me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, dude, I could talk about this shit. That's where I talk about my other channel in Fed React's, but like, yeah, dude, like...

It's super interesting to me. Yeah. Because, like, you started talking about, I was like, oh, damn, I really want to know about this shit. Yeah. Like, for example, like, with the FBI, right? Like, you know, the only thing, like, with the whole Trump case, right? Like, the only thing that concerns me with the Trump case is like, I think the state cases are all bullshit. The only

one that concerns me, which is good, because, you because now they kind of postponed it. Well, was the classified documents case in Florida because they did a search warrant. They found the documents there. And they're like, oh, well, he could declassify them. Well, it doesn't matter because I did a case like this before. Anytime you deal with national defense information,

basically military information, it doesn't matter what the classification is. It's considered NDI, and it's not supposed to be outside of certain places. What does NDI mean? National defense information. Okay. So whether it's confidential secret, top secret, whatever it may be, it doesn't matter. if it's classified. If it's NDI, it's NDI. I did a case like this back in like 2014.

You can Google this shit. That's why people say, you didn't even do shit. Motherfucker, I can Google cases and show you all that I've worked on it. There's this guy. He was like shipping like F-14 schematics, right, from the United States. He used to work for Pratt and Whitney and Rose Royce. So he had access to this stuff. He was an engineer. He was shipping the shit to Iran. Even though it wasn't technically classified, it's considered NDI. And we were able to charge them under the Espionage Act for that. And that's what they're going after Trump for 18 USC 793E

so they're saying that he could he can he's citing fucking you're saying that they're the whole thing is like he could basically be giving this information somewhere that's what they're the whole it no their issue was where it was stored at his house it's not considered like

a secure location or a skiff or something like that so information like that shouldn't be there but the problem sounds like it lies and more if it goes somewhere else yes yeah like it's crazy that the charges with espionage but they look at like since it's not where it's supposed to be we don't know where it's

where it could go so we're going to hit you with espionage right and people don't know like the espionage act like it's one of the few federal crimes that like it could you could get hit with like life or death death uh death for that um a famous case um he just recently died FBI agent he sold secrets to Russia they could give you Robert Hansen penalty for that can depending on like the classification how much you gave away one FBI agent's name is Robert Hansen he got busted for selling secrets to the Russians he got life in prison he just died recently in Colorado and you can get the death penalty for what treason uh yeah for like espionage yeah treason could be considered treason so so yeah man it's it's it's like serious stuff but like that's

the only thing that concerns me because my thing is if trump needs to get in and part i think he could pardon himself for that probably i'm hoping he can i don't know but presidential pardon is a real thing federally that's a good loophole so he could pardon himself he gets in and they and they delayed that that document's case. That was the only case that I was worried about that I was like, okay, they could maybe get them on this because it's, it's kind of irrefutable. It's like you had the documents,

they're NDI, they're at your house. I see what I mean? But they did push that back the whole, like didn't they push his shit back? So it's like he will. Yeah, it's delayed. The case is being, it's being postponed, which is good. That sounds like a W.

That is being postponed. But that's the only case that I think has any real teeth. The January 6th thing you can argue. But how could you get that postponed? Because he has the New York trial going on right now. And he's running a presidential campaign. So his lawyers did a good job of just getting it postponed. Wow.

You think that would be the one that they'd want to go after the most then. Yeah, because I think that's the government's strongest case against them. Because that's kind of open shut classified documents. Because I've done one of these cases before. Bro, the documents, you ain't supposed to have it. I wonder how this ages. Like, this is going to be so interesting. Yeah.

This conversation. Yeah. I hope, I hope. But I think it gets in. he could pardon himself i don't think until next year which is good elections in november would that be the first president that's parted himself probably damn this would be crazy that is the sickest president's because no president's ever been like nixon came close but i don't think any president's ever been criminally indicted yeah they got rid of him first and and that's another thing too again this is

a political hit job like alvin brag the guy out of new york that fucking indicted trump like for the stormy daniels case which he's on trial for right now yeah like he campaign on that i'm gonna go after Trump because that whole because I've looked into that case too that's a misdemeanor case man they're like going after I'm like trying to use the felony version of it but it's not really a What's the misdemeanor?

Falseifying business records is what it is but it's normally a misdemeanor but they're going after him on a felony situation Yeah everyone does that Yeah this is bullshit but like the strongest case So okay the bullshit case are the New York one and the Georgia one Fannie Willis she went ahead and hit him with a Rico

Him and Giuliani and all these guys saying that it's like a racketeering whatever she just high off the YSL Rico she went ahead and charged the same bullshit over again right the Fannie Willis she's getting exposed right now Rudy Gialani is a mob with Trump that's what he's trying to say we're doing what

that election interfere so what this what they did was you know how the whole January 6 shit happened yeah they basic because he called it I think a Georgia governor and try to say hey we need to re find these votes or whatever the fuck that gave Georgia the jurisdiction to go after him because they basically what they did was they hit him with a state version

of the federal case out of Washington, D.C. So just the audience knows. He's got hit in New York with the falsifying business records. Yeah. Georgia. Georgia for the RICO thing

with Giuliani, a bunch of his lawyers. Florida. Florida for the documents case, the national defense information. And then the last one federally in Washington, D.C. For the January 6th stuff.

Ooh. So he's indicted in four different jurisdictions, two federal, two state. The one in Georgia is kind of prefaced on the federal case out of D.C. with the January 6th situation. I see.

Does that make sense? Yeah. It'll be it. Yeah. So they're trying to say that he had a racketeering conspiracy to defraud the government with like, because he challenging the election all his other shit. Like to get what, though. It's a watered down version of the, of the federal case in D.C.

is what it is. And she used the racketeering statute to do it. Bless you. So obviously, what do they think he's going to do with, it sounds like the most important thing is the information. It doesn't matter at that point. Which case are we talking about? The information in Florida, the Florida case.

Oh, the NDI one? Yeah. Like that's like what's the, just that he has it and he shouldn't have it in this spot. Yeah. And that's the biggest. That's exactly. That's basically what it is. You have NDI stuff that's not a secure location.

That you could take a picture and fucking. Yeah. And that's what worries me the most. Because they got a pretty stone cold on that. And they have recordings of him talking with this like reporter saying like, oh, would you look at that these are classified documents i shouldn't be having little lot they have that they have that shit on recording too so that that's because that's cut and dry dude like the the espionage act and 793 and documents and all that that's like pretty much damn if he pardons

himself though yeah that'll be lit gangster move right there wow yeah he can pardon himself for those i think he can pardon himself because we've never been in this situation before for the two federal cases but for the state cases he's going to need the governor to do that he's going to need a governor's pardon which if he gets in at what state at what state Georgia and New York but he's in trial right now for the New York one and that's a whole other thing let's say he does get convicted in New York how's he going to go to jail

secret service has to protect him you go to special jail don't they always get them they always put people like that in a special jail I don't know how you would do it yeah I mean don't they put them they like it's not really jail it's like but the secret service would protect him

because here's the thing so like a lot of people I've done secret service details because Homeland Security is in with Secret Service and they're all in the same thing so like whenever there's like the UN when like foreign presidents come in or whatever I've, like, protected a president of Congo before or Uganda. Forget, some African country.

What secret, they're really thorough, man. One thing I'll give them is, like, oh, the only two presidents have been assassinated under their watch, really, or three, whatever. But in modern day times, since Kennedy, there's never been, they're good about shit. Like, they go, like, before the president goes somewhere. They're there like three weeks before, dude. So you think, like, which secret service guys taking the phone go to jail with? Yeah, like, I'm thinking about how, like, how are y'all even going to do this?

Because I know how they work. So, like, I know that they're doing, they're doing a site survey three weeks before how the fuck y'all go to put him in jail like how would this even be he obviously won't be around anyone else like how would this even work yeah did you get to talk to trump at the ufc yeah what did you guys talk about i said we need you back yeah i agree he was like oh really strong i agree dude yeah we do need him back yeah like there's no there's no better option even people that hate biden like bro let's be honest like some of these candidates that like you know they're just not going to get in like yeah there's no option you know we need trump yeah you

If we're going to be realistic here, the only person that can really, like, pull us out of this shitty situation is Trump. And it sucks because he's going to inherit a nightmare. He's going to inherit a war. We're on the brink of World War III in the Middle East. We got this fucking failing war with Ukraine and Russia, which, oh, that was another thing you're going to talk about for a while,

the Russia-Ukraine conflict. Now they're finally coming forward. You could talk about it now because now it's out there. Even mainstream media is reporting this. Russia's winning. Dude, they pretty much have like a third of the country under control on the east side. It's not even close. But people were saying for years, Russia's going to lose this war.

Russia is losing. But it was propaganda to make us feel better for sending Ukraine all this money. It's a losing war. God, the money thing just always comes back to the money. Foreign aid, bro. Foreign aid is a big waste of money. We shouldn't do it anymore. That, that, yeah, the money thing, man.

It always gets so fucking tiresome. And Ukraine is like one of the most corrupt countries in Europe. It's one of the poorest with Moldova, right? Like, you know, like. You see all the things. shit and it's like I do I saw fucking post the other day it was like NASA is gonna put a fucking train rail on fucking Mars or some shit the moon or whatever and I'm like the fuck are we doing here man like that that's what I never understand like what about America

like yeah and I understand obviously we have interests or allies and these these reasons why money is here or there but it's like all right well how many fucking hundreds of millions and billions of dollars got to go out before it's like you'll fix some shit here well ever since World War II, right? Like wars now are not fought with like men on the battlegrounds like it wasn't World War II. I think losing 70 million, I think we lost like 70 million people from World War II. People kind of said, well, okay, this is kind of expensive and violent. You know, let's do this. Let's do proxy wars. So now the way we wage war is we give aid, whether overtly or surreptitiously, to our allies to fight wars that white will benefit

us, right? And that's kind of what we've been doing. You know, espionage, funding certain countries that have shared interests right people don't know this we gave bin laden like we funded al-Qaeda in the beginning like it used to be the mujahideen and then they fought the soviets in the 1980s we don't like the soviet union so we gave bin laden a bunch of money right to fight them off he wins Afghanistan is liberated Saudi Arabia gets into a conflict with Saddam hussein and then bin Laden is like hey Saudi Arabia because a lot of people don't know this bin Laden is Saudi Arabian he's very wealthy his family is the wealthiest in Saudi Arabia they're like engineering slash construction family

they built a lot of the buildings of Saudi Arabia bin Laden when he died he was worth like 30 million people don't know that right so engineering degree smart guy had a lot of money so he goes to Saudi Arabia I could defend us right what the Saudi Arabia do? Nah bro we're good

America's going to defend us from this situation he's like what the fuck these dudes are catheters I can't be fighting on the holy lands in our behalf this is against the Quran this is fucked up Saudi Arabia says no motherfucker you don't criticize us so they pull his passport they ostracize him send his ass to Sudan that's where he becomes radicalized

like fuck this shit fuck Saudi Arabia fuck the United States etc becomes radicalized next to you know Al Qaeda and then he starts conducting terrorist attacks not justifying what he did

killing innocent Americans is never acceptable but you know a lot of it why he because if you look at his read his letter to a letter to America and you look at any of these fucking terrorists that attack United States

it's simply because we align ourselves with a certain country right and they're like I just think it's crazy how they get so many people behind like these fucking wars and shit and they just convince so many people to be like

yeah we have to help we have to give money and the reason I say all that is because the war like when we went to Iraq right we went on the premise of 9-11 weapons of mass destruction chemical weapons all this crap we never found any WMDs unless you're most people don't know that

Saddam Hussein and Osama hated each other Osama wanted to kill Saddam because he threatened Saudi Arabian sovereignty when he was invading I think it was a quaint one of these other countries and they hate each other and it was the whole reason why Osama got hospitalized by Saudi Arabia was because

he didn't believe the United States should be fighting Saudi Arabia's wars. So it's really easy to convince the public. You just have to stage a couple mass terrorist attacks. But you don't know this. Like Osama hated Saddam. So why the fuck did we go to Iraq? Makes no sense.

Yeah. We went for a certain state. Texas. Money, man. The state of Texas. The state of Texas. We'll just say Texas. The Hindus in Texas. God damn. Fuck. Is this been your most base conversation, Brad? No, I mean, on camera?

Yeah, probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Where do we, where does it all go? They can be entertaining the bullshit, bro. Where does it all go? Where does it all go? Yeah. You guys happy?

Yeah. Thanks for asking, man. Like, no one ever asked that shit. Yeah, I am genuinely. Are you? Yeah. I want to have a family, but I'm happy. like actually like all bullshit aside like just in life yeah i think when you're like fulfilling

your purpose you're helping people out like there's no way that you can't be happy to some degree right like if you're like influencing people positively getting them in gym getting them in shape etc people come up to you like bro you change my life etc how could you like almost like you almost feel like like there's times like i don't want to go to the gym or i don't feel like it or i feel like damn maybe i didn't whatever and then someone comes by and says yo you changed my life whatever then you're like damn i got to keep going it's not just about me anymore that's the happiest i see him when a guy comes up is like yo you really help me out with your podcast i really appreciate that that's like the happiest i've seen myron it uh the only thing that gave me more satisfaction was like

busting child pedophiles kind of like we did the other day but like we used to like you know because i would always be involved because even though i didn't like because i didn't like investigating those crimes because you have to look at the cp and interview these scumbags and everything else like that i didn't really like that but whenever there was an arrest warrant to go pick these guys up i was always i always volunteered to be on arrest teams every single time to put the cuffs on the guy I would always be on the arrest teams every single time. So putting those guys away is always very satisfying because they're like sick fucks

and something crazy. Shout out to Vitali for doing this. A lot of people don't know this. Bro, there are so many pedophiles. You can arrest a new one every single day. Every hour. It's such a common prevalent problem. So sad. It wasn't until I got on the job and I realized because one of the

one of the guys in a child porn group because I was in a drug slash human smuggling group we have different squads, right? He was in a child porn group but I would always assist when they had their arrest warrants. He was like kind of opened my eyes like, bro, look at all these fucking guys we have identified that's involved. Dude, hundreds upon hundreds. This was just in Laredo, Texas. Yeah. Some small fucking Ricky Dink town on the border. Bro, hundreds upon hundreds of dudes that are looking at child porn. They got a search warrant that they got

to do. It's so many pedophiles, dude. It's crazy. It's a big problem. That's, I just, I'll never get it. If you're going to sex offender registry right now and type in your address, you probably live next to a child predator or you live, sorry, excuse me, you probably live to a sex offender one that's caught but the the rest that haven't been caught yeah that's the one that's been caught granted there's some bullshit sex offender registries where a guy got caught pissing in public and he has a register but you know there's some bullshit but a lot of the times it's like people that legit rapist sexual people that involve the sexual assault you know people that mess with kids like you type in your address in a sex offender registry you're probably close to someone yeah it's

dude i i just it just doesn't make sense to me i don't understand why there'd be like some perversity like you need something so weird yeah especially in a state like california where you guys have anywhere i mean just like as a human what's the well it's getting weird or crowded bro so like in places like california where you're like well i'm saying what is the because it gets so deviant once you allow something you need to keep on satisfying that heat and a sick pleasure so you just keep on going to the weirdest thing possible i mean they keep doing it yeah a lot of them get assaulted as kids hurt people hurt people that's like that's like the big one is like a lot of them get assaulted as kids and it just kind of like they think it's normal kind of yeah single single single single

single mother households, no authority figures, get touched by maybe a family member or someone that's trusted. Yeah, that's, doesn't justify it. Not an excuse. No, no, no. By no means. But it's, that's fucking sad for sure. But it's an ingredient of the pandemonium.

Like, all the people that we asked yesterday, that was one of the questions. I asked them, like all of them had been abused as a kid too. Everyone. Damn. Every single one. Yeah. I think as men, aren't you at your happiest when you're not really thinking about happiness when you're just working so hard and you have no time to think about your emotion?

Yeah, I was kind of thrown out by our question, but you're right. Well, yeah, yeah, because I want to kind of talk about. about this topic a little bit because in the when you spoke earlier about like the video games everything is like competitive number one be the best and i love that and i respect the fuck out of that and i think men should be we're gonna play overwatch now bro you're gonna see why i get banned i'm nice yeah i'm sure i'm gonna fucking probably sustain a little bit of that but um i'll go on i'm good though we're gonna win yeah even the guys that i play would get bad you you're queuing with him they they report you too i'm just like that's fine i don't care um but being that that's the mentality you have

it is hard sometimes to just like slow down and just be grateful and to have like the actual feelings of happiness because it's one thing go go go go go go go go go and you could be happy doing it but have you ever noticed like throughout your career that like it's always kind of in hindsight that you go oh I was really happy but an object in motion stays in motion as soon as to take a break that's when you reflect too much and that's when you could start overthinking you got to stay on your mission if you really want to succeed you don't think there's times that can be beneficial sort of go, like, not saying stop and don't do anything for fucking months, but take a day and go, damn, I'm really doing this. I'm happy about where I'm at. This is what I envision for

myself. You don't think there's value to that? I take that. Like, I like to travel quite a bit, but my iron is like, even if he travels, he's just, he's bringing a giant set of podcast equipment like to Columbia, like giant suitcases and tripods and lights. He's like, no, but I know. I get that. I'm asking you specifically. He doesn't stop. I like to travel and I like to, you know, I'd like to write a lot and film things. I do reflect more, but he, bro, this guy's always on go mode. I don't think he's ever taking a great. Yeah, I hate traveling to be honest with you.

Since he started streaming, I don't think he stopped. I hate traveling. Because it's like, it throws you out of your element and I hate airplanes and you staying in hotels and shit. And it's like, I'm not close to the studio. Fucks up my workouts. I understand that. Yeah, yeah. I know, no, man.

Sometimes I think his stress levels are going to get too high and he's going to like pop a blood vessel. I think you need to take that time to reflect sometimes. Yeah. I don't know I look at it like I've been through wars I always like it's weird Like I always like compare like whenever I'm like going through something sucky I'm like well at least I'm gonna wake up at 4.30 in the morning anymore Fucking go on the Charles River in Boston where it's cold as fuck

So yours is just perspective but yeah It's interesting because in perspectives like yours at some point You only been four years Yeah right Three and a half really three and a half so like three and a half of like Well how much of like real good success where you're like wow this is amazing Like financial success I'll say within like the

within the first like year we were doing pretty well financially so like three years like of good financial success yeah yeah yeah you i guess i cannot relate to what i'm saying at all it took me like nine years really like nine years of like nothing mattered like relationships nothing it was just like blinders this is all i was focused on and then i got to a point where i was like whoa what the fuck like i can't even believe how how how long it's been what was that moment it was probably I don't, maybe like right before I was about to open my

this new gym Zoo culture maybe a year before that new gym like I've had Zoolture for nine years right when we had because I remember you were opening your gym right before we did our pod okay so right then

yeah so I had the gym open for it's almost it couldn't be almost nine years but this new one about a year ago so around that time before that gym was about to open I remember I was just like because I would get asked that question a lot like people who would work with me or who know me are like are you happy because like

I think a lot of times you'd see me like either stressed about something but like stress is something like I thrive it and I love it like I do enjoy it I like the sweat and but then I got asked that question a lot and I remember one day I was like wait I'm not happy I'm not happy and and it was it was just a weird moment like I'm very happy now yeah could I be happier of course did you come to that realization like right when you were about to open it yeah That was right around the time we did our pause So you weren't happy back then Yeah, I mean I was happy

But it was like I remember me and you talking about like the permitting And how much of a pain in the ass It was for you to get it open It wasn't even about that stuff That was just that was business as usual to me It was just like in my life Like relationship wise

Like where I was at like where I had been And you know The situations I had been More of a I guess on a personal level Like with where I was at In I don't know My timeline of like Where my relationship was going to end up

Or where I was going to be Or like I kind of stopped And I was like, I thought I would have been a little further along. Like, I thought I would have had a kid. I thought I would have been a little more. So what was lacking? What do you have now that you didn't have then? Probably a lot more patience, a lot more willingness to communicate, like not just my way.

Because obviously I could sit here and talk to you guys all day. And like we're very similar in a lot of ways, very different in a lot of ways. Yeah. But I'm very much like you guys are where it's like, this is it. This is what I'm doing. This is how I feel. And but it would always shut out like my, my ability to, to, create really positive like synergistic conversation or fruitful conversation in this case

in a relationship so with the opposite sex okay so I found myself always just like it was like eh you got some serious now uh I'm yeah like yes and no okay I'm gonna have to cut that I'm gonna cut that yeah yeah but at the time I just remember looking I remember looking back and being like yeah I'm very happy about all these sections of my life but this one section of my life like I just avoided I truly avoided Okay So I was just curious

If you guys have ever I mean you When you're in it You're in it You don't know it Until you kind of slid down You're like oh wait a minute Like I think in like four years

You'll probably be like Oh I remember that conversation I have a Brad Not maybe about the girl thing Some aspect Some aspect of your life Yeah I'm just curious Have you like

You wouldn't You wouldn't be able to know It's like you don't know Until you get out of it Yeah until you go so you slow down a little bit in hindsight and obviously i don't think you're going to slow down and stop making content and like you know like keep the iron going type conversation i get it yeah but i really wonder like are there aspects of your life that you think you right now in five

years would be like yeah i wish i spent more time focused on that like are there anything's like you know what i feel like that about right now i feel like that about my federal career i was like interesting because it ended abruptly for me so like i look back and i'm like damn that was really a fun job like this was I really I miss it all the time I talk about all the time um so I feel like that about that because like that career is done now so I can like look back and reflect it's funny how you're still about work about work I love it yeah yeah that's totally me dude yeah because that's fine because I lived and breed that job dude like I like bro like like that like that job right so like I got on as age when I was 23 so like and I was secluded in

Laredo Texas so like I didn't party I didn't drink I wasn't like going out hanging out with friends like most 20 year olds were like yeah I was fucking chasing after criminals and writing reports at two in the morning and going after like the worst the worst people so like I was super invested in my job like that was like one thing that like you know I had the most arrest in 2016 in the whole office which is the busiest office in the country like and then before I left I had one of the most important national security cases before I left so like it really tormented because when I had to leave they basically the reason why is because they're like hey you're fucking blown up on the internet like you have a top city clearance you're going to be testifying a court

you're a fucking federal agent what the fuck you're doing talking about this shit on the internet Because like, you know, obviously that you can't be out there like that when you're on the job. So I had to pick and choose. They're like, bro, because in their head, these are government employees, lifetime government plays. They don't understand social media. They don't understand making money online. To them, they're like, what the fuck you're doing?

This is what kind of random hobby? Dude, quit this shit. But they didn't know that like at this point we're starting to make money. I had employees. We were like, the business was starting to take off. And at that point, I had just got in the first studio. And fresh, it just quit his job. So if I turn my back and I'm like, sorry, guys, I'm going to have to put this shit on a

hold for a few months because they told me you got to put this shit on hold for like six or seven months who knows if we can bounce back after that and then they also were reserved the right to tell me you can't go back because i had something called outside employment paperwork when you work for the federal government you have to get like it approved if you're going to have any type of outside employment paper employment or like activity because it can't be a conflict of interest you can't be a defense attorney while being a special agent it's conflict of interest right so for example so i had my shit approved but then they rescinded it and they said you got to wait like six So they would have never, there could have been a chance where I wait the time period and they don't

give it back to me. Because like I was in the middle of like some bullshit internal investigation because they thought that I was like filming content on my fucking G phone, which is like, dude, I was recording 4K videos. They give you like an iPhone 7, which is preposterous. But they're like, hey, until this shit clears, you got to stop. And I was like, well, I got in place. So then they're like, well, they didn't think I was going to resign. I ended up resigning. I had to resign. So it was fucking, I'll never forget, December 5th, 2020, going to the fucking office. over there into Miami field office turn over my fucking badge

turn all my shit back my vest my credentials everything so your answer still work yep yeah dude he's so fucking crazy there's nothing else with that guy man it makes sense though yeah I guess

what about you probably family time if I have to look back in five years I just came back from home so I was able to his mother's day yesterday I got to see them I think that's one thing that I think I will regret I saw my grandparents for the first time

in a while and it's probably going to be those Everybody thinks that. Like, you could have had one more conversation with your grandma, stuff like that. I've been so dialed in and focused on work that it's hard to really maintain the same relationships I had with my family before I moved out. Do you think you'll regret that? Probably, yeah.

Yeah. Probably, yeah. I mean, there's only so much time that you could spend with them. Like, you have the conversation. But, yeah, there could be more time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because, candidly, there's definitely, there's some things I regret in regards to that family

and just time being enough, having enough. And just even now, it's like, even when I try to make time, it's like there's not enough time. There's never enough time. It's fucking crazy, man. It's probably regret that every, like, working man has. And I can't even, I know what your father. Like, man, I can't even imagine.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, obviously my condolences. But like, yeah, dude, like, I can't even imagine, like, I would feel if, like, you know, I didn't have my dad anymore. Yeah. And it's, it's interesting because, like, your relationship with your dad, like, growing up, like, I really didn't like my dad growing up.

I was like, man, you're fucking such a hard ass on me. like bro fucking like let me live and shit because you always used to go way easier on my mom sorry my sister but then it wasn't until like i was like 30 years old and i was like oh wow my parents did a fucking great job like holy shit you don't appreciate your parents until you're until you're older and sometimes you don't get the chance yeah you know what i mean and i'm really glad that at least i got to tell my dad like you did a good job you didn't fuck up here from this point if if i do anything stupid it's on me it's not on you guys so i'm glad that i was able to at least tell them that they're good parents you know so i don't know if you had that

conversation with your dad. But obviously I couldn't even imagine. No, my father was six when he took his life. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's gone a long time ago. Yeah, yeah. Conversations. Yeah, yeah. It's more so like, maybe the more so the conversations I got to have my mom about it in relationship to, but I totally do understand like not why he took his life. It's not justifiable at all, except for that's where he was in his life. I can never justify it. I would never do that just because I know how much it affected me, but I only know that in hindsight. But I can say now speaking as about to be 35 year old this month,

that I can understand like that he must have been in such sort of like, I don't know, I mean, turmoil that I can't relate to. But knowing now, looking back on myself as like a child, like I didn't look at it or see it any of the way that I could see it now because you can only see in hindsight and go, oh, I've lived this much more life. I've had, I've lost love, I've been hurt, I've been taking advantage of, I've been, so I can only say now, okay, I can never justify it because I don't think he should have done

when he'd done. Yeah. But my bad for that, I completely. No, you're fine. I knew, I knew, I just forgot when. But the same thing you said, like, knowing, like, you know, when you're young, like you're a hard ass. Yeah. Right. And you're like, what the fuck? And now you get it. Yeah. Yeah. The same thing. Like, I looked at it obviously from a much more like, did your mom have to play that role or did like a stepdad come in? I had a stepfather, but he was pretty distant. Great man, but just it was hard for him to, you know, create that sort of that male, sort of

closeness. So is your mom the main disciplinarian? Yeah, and just me randomly and like random friends and parents and just kind of fucking figuring out. But my point is like now, I'm able to look back and go, shit, because he died when he was 38. And we took his life, rather. And obviously, like, I'm close to that, a lot

closer than when I was six. So I can go, not I get it, but he lived a different life. He went through this. He went to this he dealt with that and he just he made you know a poor decision but obviously my life wouldn't be the way it is unless that happened to me yeah like i wouldn't have shit to share i wouldn't have things to give i wouldn't have good conversation to talk about things in relationship to that and losing and so it's always like you always get it in hindsight you always get it later yeah but that's why i'm asking you guys all this question about like happiness and where you're at in your life because

obviously success and driving and being canceled coming back like all the things you guys deal with the the nonsense the bullshit like trying to like from what I know of you two, like really trying to do good. Yeah, maybe gambling every once in a while and talking some shit. You're never going to stop. I'm sorry. I didn't need to ruin that moment. I was heartfelt, man. I'm sorry. I mean that though. I mean that. Like I, you guys do genuinely care and like you do want to succeed at a high level. And I do think you want to see men succeed at a high level. Yeah. I'm just curious like where you guys are really at. Because I never took time to think about it. And, you know, it's been like 14 years of making content.

yeah i mean that's a very deep question man and uh you got me definitely uh thinking here because your answer went right back to work yeah it was really like and i guess that kind of shows six years that just shows yeah that just probably shows like where my mindset is at nothing wrong with that point yeah by the way it just it's just like i think at some point you'll go have a fucking conversation i have with brad is really interesting i'm thinking about that i think men are at their best when they're just constantly working i agree no matter what age i think retirement kills a man so yeah it is important to self-reflect but ultimately it's like Like you're at your- I'm not saying stop, by the way.

Yeah. No, but you're asking a very good fucking question. You get perspective when you, when you, not stop making content, not stop working, not stop striving, but you get perspective when you slow down and you look in hindsight instead of just go forward, go forward, go forward. Yeah. Sometimes it's good to pause and see how far you've come. Yeah.

Oh, shit. Okay. You can see like, you know, mistakes and shit you've done. Okay, maybe I can do this differently moving forward. I just think we're not taught enough to like not slow down what you're doing to like stopping it. It's just like take a day and just go like damn. Like let me look at where I've been.

Yeah and I mean that you bring up a good point because people tend to look at like what they don't have versus what they do have when people tend to think like when people like complain about certain things or whatever they talk about well I don't have this, I don't have that but they don't think about what they do have. And that's kind of like how I try to reframe everything and I hate that like

my perspective is always based on like well I've seen dead kids or I've seen people immigrate here and struggle to come here but it helps me put things in perspective like it could always be worse so like I always try to look at it like instead of saying what I don't have or anytime I'm like man I'm tired I don't fucking feel like filming today I'm like okay let me reframe it I get to film today yeah I get to do something that I want to do today I don't have to work for somebody else so you do those practices I do but I have to like almost remind myself yeah yeah sometimes to like do it like it's got to be like a very

it's not automatic because automatic things are saying oh my god I'm not doing this or I can't do this or you think about the negative but instead of thinking about like the positive So I have to make a concert effort in my mind To reframe it a lot of the times Yeah I think prayer is the most reflective process I have with that Like being able to

That's when you think about everything When you're quiet And then you have a couple times a day To think about everything that you have And you don't have That's the best reflection I get But I mean if I take too much time doing it man I think I might go insane

And he's better Too much time praying Too much time about reflecting Yeah you just pray You get over it Like you wash yourself And then back into it And then straight back.

It's funny. What? Yeah, it's just funny. I pray, I took an, I took an absence all about before we did this, like, and before I did the streaming, and I did a long prayer. It's funny. And I was thinking of you. I know that sounds really weird. Are you Christian and Catholic?

What are I didn't? Christian, yeah. Christian, okay. What was there? Orthodox or like, or not the nomination? He doesn't specify. I don't really know how to, what was the, what was the prayer? I was just, no, I was, I was praying about my family, mainly, and then I remember

thinking because I was like, oh, I'm going to interview you guys. So I was thinking about what I wanted to talk about. And then I just remember thinking like, huh, I wonder how often Sneco prays. I wonder what he prays about. Like, I wonder what he really cares about. That's actually what I said to myself. Yeah. It's always about like how can I be better. I think a lot about what I'm, what my flaws are about how I can try to shape that better. There's a lot of like ego at play with social media, I think. Like, I've been, I pray a lot about. that and about like the safety of my family. I always think about them and especially like how I could bring the best message to my content and how I could do the right thing. The safety of your

family just because like just in general or because of what you do? I think because like since I started praying more, it's I haven't been in contact with them as much. So like that's the time where I really think about what's important in life and it's always back to the family. Yeah. Yeah, man. Did the religion stuff? When did it really shift for you? A little over last year. You were Christian before? Yeah, I was Christian before. I would say like a year and a half ago I had it like was like yeah, God's real. And then last year we went to Dubai. And I was lucky enough to go to a Majid. And then in there, I was like, yeah, I'm going to start taking this seriously. And then it shifted. Ramadan was a big one, like getting to be in the Middle East.

I always prepare for that. I think Myron's like has the same trajectory too probably. I think like maybe another two, three years of like full grind mode in the States. And then I think I'm a and then go to the Middle East. Go live overseas, yeah. I think that's the move. I mean, we'll see how successful. Obviously, we're going to see what happens with Trump, but I don't know.

I don't think that this is a ship that's going to keep sailing much longer. I think this is America's a sinking ship. Obviously, this is the greatest country in the world right now, but a lot of what's going on, I don't think it's the best place, especially when it comes to raising a family.

We all have kids that we need to raise in the future. I'd much rather raise my kids in the Middle East than in here. You've been in Dubai, right? yeah yeah yeah i mean i like it man i mean it's safe it's clean no crime at all yeah that's one of the crazy zero crime there dude so um versus like in l-a right i don't even fuck wear my rollics out here you know in miami you know certain parts like and if you look like most of the most crime ridden cities i hate to bring it back to politics but they're all democrat run man so it's just like

it's just wow then you look at the public school system where they got these individuals coming in and reading their children and all this other bullshit it's like come on man what the fuck is going on. So we're slowly, like, descending into a clown world. Like, obviously, United States is the best country in the world that obviously most opportunity from a financial perspective to make the money. Like, they call the land up opportunity for a reason. But it's like, make your money and then like if you want to raise a family, like unless you're going to private school your kids, you know, really like sensitize them to certain things and keep them away from certain things of their certain age. It's difficult to do with social media and, you know,

the ubiquity of porn and everything else like that. It's going to be very difficult, man. Like, you know, and it's interesting because, like, when I walk around in Miami or L.A. Or any of these major cities, I don't see people pushing strollers with kids. When I was in Dubai, I saw, that's all I saw. I see people walking dogs and shit like that. But, you know, here I see people walking dogs and, you know, maybe a couple here or there. But I don't see people walking with their kids. When I was in Dubai, I saw people pushing strollers, people walking with their kids and stuff like that.

You don't see that here in the States like that. That's interesting. It's like one of the biggest things I noticed differences. Holy shit. Yeah, I never even thought of that. Think about that, dude. Like when you're walking around. West Hollywood

or fucking Brickland Miami or downtown Miami or New York City can you see people with their kids don't yeah but maybe

because they're out in the this more suburban areas you know like out like coral gables yeah yeah yeah but like

still you even you go to the park you don't see people walk in with their kids dude people are there with their dogs they're afraid

a lot of the parents are afraid to have their kids in public now like I just like that's fucking insane yeah and the birth racers

has been steadily declining in America for a while Elon talks about that shit a lot you know so it's like that's the

best act of resistance is having a bunch of kids. I mean, if the globalists want us to be childless and happy and constantly be relying on the system, then the best way to fight back is kids. What would be the point of having less kids if it's less people to spend money? Because if we don't have family, then we're easier to control. But at some, yeah, yeah, but at some point. People are more prone to like spend money when they're single too on stupid shit. Oh, that's, you're a way bigger consumer when you're single than when you have family. That's actually you think about it. You just blew my Amazon shit. I'm like, I got.

I gotta stop buying shit on it. Yeah, dude. Like, yeah. Like, Holy shit. Yeah, dude. What are you buying? Just fucking dumb shit from the van.

I mean, shit I like, but it's like, do I really need it? No. I don't. And imagine this, like you have the expendable income to do it.

There's people I spend money like that that don't have it, dude. Like, for you, it's fine. It doesn't hurt you financially. But there's people that literally like, yeah,

consume their way into broken. That's food though. I mean, yeah, but I butt up, man, they tax the fuck out of you on that. Yeah.

And I order a lot of food. I got to stop that shit. Like, fucking, like, remember how I was talking about like advertisers targeting? Like,

they want to keep women single because women are inherently consumers and when they don't have a family to spend even more, dude. They're gonna buy clothes, bags, makeup,

all this shit. They spend way more, like, on themselves, right? More of a consumer than on the family when they're single. And then also,

think about it from like an employment standpoint. If you're, and I talk about this in my book, Wyoming deserve less out in stores right now. Amazon best seller. You got a book? I got a book.

I got a book. I didn't know that. I got to send me one. I should have, yeah, what the hell? You should have brought it. Yeah,

fucking see. I didn't even know. Yeah, I'll send you a copy. I'll send you copy. What's the sequel? That'll be a talking point. If you keep it like on here,

people are, what the fuck is this? It's like a huge, like conversation starter. What were you going to call the sequel? Ho's, why women deserve even less. Fuck, bitches,

get money. Yeah, second book is going to be why women deserve even less than the last one is why women deserve nothing. That's a good finale. Yeah. Three part trilogy,

but in the book. He's crazy, though. Nothing's insane. And it's only like 100 pages. And I released it on Valentine's Day because women deserve less. Oh, my God. That's why the book is so short. But you had to tell the next one, I hate women.

You were right. But in the book, I mean, it's, I really talk about feminism and is it, right? The title is like just funny. But I talk about feminism, what a feminism effectively did was it doubled the workforce. So when you double the workforce, what are you able to do? You're able to pay less wages. Double the taxes, too. Double the taxes as well.

And then what do you have now? You have a double the workforce. employers don't have to pay you sustainable wage like that because they have double the workforce and then bam now women are able to enter the workforce they're empowered they make their own money guess what that's another person that can buy and consume your products it's weird it's like the greatest place in the worst way yeah single people spend way more money than like people and couples like because they're they're not as financially or fiscally as responsible because there's no reason to be god damn dude yeah how do we make america great again you think it's doomed

I think it's the last shot. I think Trump has the last real opportunity. After that, I don't see anybody. There's some of my friends, I think, possibly in the future, but they're far too young to run now. But in recent times, I think it's Trump and then who else? And I mean, you've seen an explosion this whole passport bro's movement, guys being expatriates.

Like, how many dudes do we know that, like, you know, are YouTubers that are like foreign, dude? A lot. A lot. Right? If you talk about it from a societal standpoint, the dollar inflation, cost of living, the women, so many guys go abroad now there's so many expatriates and other places in the world so

i don't know i mean i yeah i'm kind of with sniko here where like i'll probably be here like another five to ten years but like yeah five to ten i'm thinking yeah oh that's a long time because i want to build up my real estate program i got to open up more gyms too man how many more do you need you have too oh we're doing miami now oh yeah let's fucking go i'm gonna do miami yeah no it's slated like 100 okay you're done okay we talked about this years ago that you were like i want to yeah and then i'm gonna and then once we get that it's probably going to be like Vegas, Texas. How much passive income before you could comfortably leave this country?

You're at how much? What's your real estate before you? 20K a month? 50K a month. So, okay, I'm really transparent about this show. It's fine.

I don't mind. You have like 12 properties? I have 20 properties right now. God damn. Like 50 something tenants. I'm gross in like 70? But I'm only, but that's grossing.

That's grossing. That's not paying because remember I have maintenance. Some houses I own outright and then some I have a loan on, which by the way, buying a house cash is stupid. Yeah, FYI. But it's the whole way to do it, bro. It is the whole lot way to do it.

But if we're going to talk about... That's what I did. I bought two houses cash. But there's so many things with taxes that it's a, you almost, it's a bad idea. Yeah. From a tax strategist perspective and, you know, like to really maximize your money, like using leverage is absolutely the best way to procure houses. That's why people try to dig in me like, well, you have done on those houses.

Well, they all pay for themselves stupid because they all cash flow, you moron. So whatever. But, but yeah, I have a couple that I own outright, but I think I'm netting like, 20 to 30 I got to redo the numbers but I think I'm netting somewhere in that like somewhere between 18 to 30 I don't know the exact and that's and that's monthly and that's not considering all the actual gain that you're receiving over time from just owning the property yes like so for example I have 15 in in Connecticut and then like another five in in Florida my Florida houses love one up I gotta talk you about some of this because I want to I don't know why you still have a place in Miami well I'm gonna have them once I do the gym yeah I'll buy a house at the same time. Dude, you best believe I'm going to fucking be there supporting. How much passive incomes do you need before you could leave?

Oh, I want to be at 100. 100, because you ask that. Yeah, so for me, I need to be at 100. So for me, I'm going to need roughly 80 houses to do that. If I keep buying at this rate with the same thing. Rose plan monopoly in real life. Trying, man. Yeah, for me, I mean, I mean, that sounds comfortable.

I think it's like, it's not so much the money at that point. It's more like I need to like, I want to stamp the legacy as far as the gym goes and it's like i kind of have to be here for more time to do that i kind of wanted to ask this on my when i bring you on my pod but i'll ask anyway yeah uh like dude because i really want to pick your brain on this like what are the margins like on running a gym because i talked with christian gusman about this and he was like telling me like bro it's not as profitable as people think it's really like expensive to run i mean maybe your your business model might be different um but he was like day passes make a bunch of the money yeah i was surprised by that yeah um but

But that makes sense in his gym because he has an audience and people just want to go to offline and work out. I'm sure it's probably the same with you because social media angle. Social media following. So people want to just work out there just to like experience it. So yeah, I just wasn't sure like what's the margins? Like you don't have to tell me specifically, but like what is it like running a gym day to day, dude? Yeah.

Well, I don't have to necessarily run a day to day myself. Okay. But it the margins, yeah, they're not great. Depends on the location. Like I could have in LA, I probably could have made a lot more money if I got like a random warehouse somewhere like more north in the valley. Okay. Because I picked Ventura Boulevard, it's like the rent there is like $38,000.

On average, it's like 38 to 42, depending on the time of the year with the taxes, on the property, whatever. But just for the rent, that's not employees, that's not payroll, that's not utilities. That's none of that. So you have to, you know, that's overall expenses is probably like $55 to $60,000. Overhead, just to keep the lights on and run it. Sheesh. Yeah.

So it does well over that But most of that money is made on Yeah, the memberships The apparel stuff being sold Okay The day passes are massive Yeah Because you get so many people who come in from like

You know, they're going for any reason to go to L.A. Yeah. Like, oh, I also want to visit this gym Yep And then it also became a place where like- And you have lax recording rules Which many commercial gyms don't allow I noticed that with your gym

And Christian Guzema's gym Is you guys have lax recording rules And I think that's a big reason Why people go over there too Yeah, I mean that's why I had my success was able to film stuff. I was able to film stuff on fucking Instagram

and get popular whatever the fuck you want to call it. A lot of gyms don't allow that. And so that's the future of this whole gym space. Social media. Absolutely.

They have to adapt. A lot of gyms need to just start. Oh, they're fucked. I'm going to crush them all for sure. They're going to, and like they'd have to rewrite their whole fucking membership. Boxer gym is good at that.

That's a strong competition. It's very social media for me. Yeah. Yeah. No, for sure. I mean, they get, they get it. I'm,

I'm comfortable being close to that gym because it's a completely different gym. like that's more boxing the gym space itself like you know it's not a bad gym I love that gym I'm not trying to shit on it at all I just think it's like it's more MMA focus it's a combat centric gym right right so it's gonna be bodybuilding focus yeah yeah and the cool thing the your main competition Miami is going to be elevation yes yeah not so much boxer I love boxer yeah I love elevation too I have no problem with any of these gyms but yeah I'm not so worried about that or the competition in general but the thing that's so different about the gym that

you know people come to pay these day passes for is like they're coming to see like some fucking influencer celebrities celebrities or meet someone to like film content with or make their own content or like develop their network the gym is a really good networking tool it's insane underrated networking tool and so i mean my entire life is through that so it's like now i'm making a place where like that's that's a embodiment of my life when i was when i was at um when i was at afland there were so many influencers there and they're not from texas dude like they moved there to start their like social media career and i was I was like, wow, damn.

And I'm sure it's probably the same thing at your gym, too, where people here are in L.A., and they literally moved here to make it, and they're like, okay, one of the reasons why I'm coming out here is because this gym is close by, and I can network and get my name out there. Yeah. No, it's huge. I mean, it's just the network out of a gym is incredible. Yeah.

So go recreate the same thing in Miami because I know there's like a need for that and I want for that. Yeah. Especially with so many influencers being there now, dude. Yeah. Miami's the new, like L.A. Brickles L.A. Brickles L.A., like the new L.A., like so many guys.

Brickle. Are they fucking love it. I cross the streets and do his podcast. Like it's right there. Yeah. Everyone's there. When I come, obviously I told you I got to come to your show.

Yeah. Obviously you came to mine. Of course I'll do yours. Yeah. It's always like a fucking scheduling thing. Yeah. Like it's like you're there and like you're like, yeah,

I'll like run into you and you'll be like, oh fuck, I'm here for like another day. Yeah. They got me there one day for the pod. It's normally full sent. It'll fly me out to do something out there. Yeah.

How long are you in Miami? What's that? How long are you in Miami? Yeah. When? spend more i just get work in and out and i because i always use my dog dude dude like i i'm like you do i don't like you get wrapped up in that shit you're just like get me the fuck out of here yeah and it's like i also just miss my dogs so when i when i open my gym i'm just going to like put all my

dogs in the van and just drive it across okay and then buy a house that's literally what i'm going to do yeah then park my van there and fucking what are you going to do with this this yeah it'll still be here oh okay come back here you'll just go back and forth right yeah yeah yeah yeah the whole thing. I would get another stream set up over there. I love all that nerd shit. Yeah. Fuck, dude.

A new gaming setup. No, I'm glad you're moving out to Miami. Dude, like a lot of people are there. I think Nalk is there now full time. Yeah. Or part time or whatever.

Yeah. Obviously, me and sneak over there. Aidan's there. Who else is in Florida? Or Miami. PBD is, he's in Fort Lauderdale.

Close enough. But close enough. That's Fort Lauderdale? He's in Fort Lauderdale. Yeah. They're in Fort Lauderdale. It's 30 miles, but like,

Florida is a way to go, mom. dude i love it i'm shocked if you're still i mean you've been here for so long so like i get it but like california is because and correct me if i'm wrong you get a la tax a state tax the worst thing it's a county tax and then a federal tax right you guys get taxed four times they tax you every you know brads not paying that though he's scamming the government yeah right scamming well i pay all my taxes bro i hate that shit i remember we had this conversation i was like asking you like dude what's the permitting out here like i i guarantee there's probably like in and i can't even imagine or you pay for everything opening a gym here

in in los angeles in california one of the most woke places covid bullshit like holy crap did that kid ever come back to the gym i bought somebody a year membership at his gym this like 14 year old kid did he ever come back i think he trains there yeah i think he trains there in the evening there's like the 13 year old 14 year yeah i got to show me a picture of his face and i'll tell you okay if you can get me a picture of his face so one of his clippers i'm sure they could send it to me yeah i'll send it to you dude what is with your community they're on why why do they fucking you call me and they're like bradley marr was crying you were right i um a lot of those people i started banning like the problem with streaming is that you create a lot of paris social people

that just like to like they like to stir drama and get involved and stuff like that like i've been like laying down the law like i've been banning all those people like i'm sick of because what we do is self-approving content so if i have people that are living vicariously through streamers and trying to like stir drama they're just nerds living behind a laptop it's completely opposite of everything I'm trying to promote so I'm just I'm getting rid of all those people nice yeah I'm really really against that you always get the spurgs it's like you can't avoid it yeah yeah yeah because I was like what the fuck like they love they love to hate I'm like dude like dude what the hell well they like the fact that they think that they can affect like lives and

like get in between people that they see through the screen they get off on that dude like they want to be acknowledged a lot of the times I get it loses with no attention so they they try to get it from people online but yeah yeah it's like you know it's kind of one of the negatives of like being on internet it's like fucking weird yeah kind of can't avoid that too entirely yeah it's like like like when i do my fed reaction like there's weirdos that like talk shit about like my chick angie like oh she's a foreigner you you know like fucking weird oh like get your own bitches man yeah it's like people are weird dude what are you all doing you know what i'm saying i'm sure that you've dealt with that that bullshit too whenever you've had a girl and like she's

on camera or whatever it's just stupid best or just hide her it is best to hide her yeah that's why i've never seen my girl yeah i'm gonna hide them yeah i've hit him for years did dude but it's also like it's that's a whole other conversation man yeah they get pissed off about that yeah yeah you know like my chick i kind of dragged their on camera so it's like whatever it is what it is but but yeah i mean if you know an ideal situation a lot of times it is best to keep them off because then like you know people are weird dude like they're just like and the thing is like a lot of times like they're not like unless they're a cloud chaser bimbo like a lot of times they're not built for like it really affects them right how does she deal with that oh dude it bothers her she's huge yeah

She's a girl. Yeah. It definitely bothers her when people talk shit or whatever. Because like, this isn't true. And I'm like, I know it's not true. It's fine. And like for her, like the thing is like that bothers her. It's like they're lying like I wouldn't like this is not like, you know what I mean?

They'll try to say some shit about her. And she's like, this isn't true. And like it really bothers them because like, you know, people on internet are weird, bro. They say like weird shit. So. And I got to bear some responsibility because like she's so helpful with my Fed channel. Like she does a lot of the research and shit. Because like she loves that true crime shit.

Oh, that's cool. She does a lot of the research. so like she'll be like my co-host on that and like she'll help me out so like we're covering like a serial killer whatever she'll come in with like little facts and add to the show and like I kind of like brought her in there

so like you know she didn't sign up for this shit like to be like an online personality like I kind of dragged her in so like I feel some level of responsibility so you know it is what it is but oh yeah and she was helped me with the like with the fucking prank shit not the prank

she was translated Spanish to the pedos one of the guys would speak English so and you try to play that whole fucking thing and then she's there and he's like trying to play like he's thinking like none of us speak English so she's like

immediately catches on Ables Español and starts talking about so it's like now you can't hide motherfucker you know so you gotta find girls that can like add value

like that and you know not be a pain in the ass and everything else like that so yeah hard to find these days dude it's so tough so like the girls that work for me right because I got a bunch of girls

that help me with like sourcing girls for the show or whatever yeah dude like some of the things they're misogynous like I'm just gonna say I fucking hate these bitches because like girls flake

or like they say they're gonna show up and they're gonna show up and those other shit and like like like and they kind of like get to experience what it's like a guy a little bit like with the flakiness and shit and like bro because the scheduling of it yeah yeah and they're like these fucking horrors blah blah blah like all the girls for me like just like just bash women all day they didn't know before pearl is a complete misogynist now because of the show she had to stop doing panels with girls because she's like oh my god girls are the worst yeah fuck when the shoes on the other foot they fucking hate that shit dude I even have something like, bro, chill.

You? Yeah. Oh my God. You said go from 12 to 8 to them? They're in the other room. I'm like, yo, chill. What's wrong with you? Lower your voices.

That's crazy. Oh, man. Well, dude, you guys got a fucking pleasure, man. You guys are awesome. How long did we go? Four hours. Let's get someone to eat, bro. Really?

This is the longest podcast I've ever done. It's four hours. Oh, wow. That's okay. We'll post it later. Just like, you know. know what you do to like like guys i interviewed sneko and myron like as you as you know it's fucking crazy sorry we got to clean it oh well i just want to say thank you guys for coming on

fuck you fuck you brad with me fucking thank you for coming on you're genuinely one of my favorite people in the social media world i miss you mad it's been a while like yeah you're genuinely one of my favorite people like you know i you can ask any i would only speak highly of you i fucking i hate your guts but i love you at the same thank you brother i appreciate i genuinely yeah And you've always like spoken really positively about me anytime like people bring out my name. Like and I've seen like you can it's totally like like it'll be someone that like might not like me or is like indifferent and like you could totally throw me under the bus and you never do. And I appreciate that. I've noticed that. Like I was like no, myron's hell of cool. I love

myron. I'm just like, thanks dude. Like yeah. Well, I mean you're not. And I know that's not easy to say because like we're so controversial. Yeah. I mean you're just very you're a very consistent human like you're not you. I've never talked to you've been like what the fuck. Yeah. Like oh that was weird. That was different. So it's like, I respect the fact that you have different viewpoints and we don't have to necessarily agree on everything. But like, doesn't mean we can have a fucking conversation. Yeah. And I agree with a lot of what you say as well.

So it's like, I enjoy talking to you. And I don't think like, I don't know. I don't think enough people get credit like they just get clipped. Yeah. And I appreciate you like giving us a platform in here and it sounds like, that's why I was like, yeah, I got to give Brad like one of the fucking great interview. You know what you're just cooked today, man. Yeah, you got to cut a lot of it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, you know, hopefully someday it's just like fucking. and let it rip, dude. When I'm gone, post that whole fucking thing, dude. Five, I post that whole thing straight up. Like I told you, bro, you got to give a good interview, bad. Like I said, you're literally one of my favorite people on social media. Real talk. Thank you, brother.

I appreciate it. Thanks, brother. Thanks for coming to, man. 100% more. Yeah. Cool.