RAWTALK - Devin Haney Reacts To Gervonta Davis Vs. Ryan Garcia, May 20th Lomochenko, & Street Fighting Bradley
Episode Date: May 2, 2023Join us as we talk to Devin Haney, one of boxings most talked about superstar. Devin reveals his thoughts on the recent iconic fight, Ryan Garcia VS. Gervonta Davis and how he will take on his next up...coming fight with Lomochenko.SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)
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Man, this is an honor.
Definitely an honor to have you here.
Appreciate you taking the time out.
You have done some amazing shit the last few years.
Thank you.
29 and O.
That's anytime you talk about an O, it's just like, is this the next,
I don't want to say it as if you're not the next you, right?
But the next person who, obviously in this case,
we think about Mayweather, who's no losses, none of that.
Do you think your career, and again, we're jumping right into this?
For sure, yeah.
Do you think at the end of the day,
day when it's all set and done, you're going to have that sort of legacy?
One thing about history, one thing about history, it repeats itself.
So we just got to see if I'm the next guy to do so.
Of course, you know, I go my different routes.
And I've done different things than Floyd at his career at this point.
So I'm a lot younger.
Then I turned pro at 17 years old, so I was a lot younger than Floyd.
But, you know, I went a different route, but, you know, hopefully we get the same outcome.
What are you feeling your heart, though?
Like in your heart, because this is important.
I think a lot of people go towards things.
We all like to try to achieve things.
We all try to go towards things that are obviously like you chose boxing at a young age.
We'll talk about that in a little bit.
I guess your father kind of had influence on that.
Yeah.
But everyone, we kind of pick things that are important for us, right?
Because it's something in our heart we really feel.
Like to be 29 and 0, you really live this.
It's not like a thing you just do for fun, right?
So in your heart, what does your heart tell you?
heart tell you that like you're that guy you're going to be that guy no 100% my heart
tells me that I'm that guy right now yeah and that I will be a great of the sport you know
when it's all said and done and I never got into this to be like mediocre or be like you know
just just you know a regular fighter I wanted to be the best and with with that being said I want to
be you know one of the greats of the sport like forever I want my name to live on forever so
you know this is this is not something that I'm just you know in here to just just
do for shits and giggles or just for fun you know i want to be the best ever yeah it's clear i mean
to have that sort of record so lomenchenko's coming up do you obviously for you he's a little older
do you feel like there's something that your game or anything is missing at this point or you're
just going to come in there and it's easy work or no i mean i can never just say it's going to be
easy work loma has had 400 400 fights yeah a lot 400 fights in total from the amateurs to the pros
and he only lost three times
of all those fights
from the amateurs to the pros
so I got to be
on my A game to be number four
to beat him
I can't just go in there
and just look past him
or just think that this is
a guy who just has a bunch of losses
400 fights with three losses
extraordinary that's like next level
so I look to be the best
me that I can be
and I look to make it easy as possible
and to make it look easy
make the world think that it was easy.
But I'm not looking past him in no way, shape, or form.
Are there any people that, like, fighters
that you looked up to as you were growing up?
Yeah.
Yeah, I would say Floyd, obviously,
because with me living in Vegas and me,
him being somebody that I could talk to, touch,
somebody that I could, you know, see at the height
of his career, Floyd, Roy Jones,
Yeah, I would say those two.
Do you ever get help from Floyd personally?
Yeah, I mean, I used to, I used to, you know,
Floyd used to be like a mentor to me, somebody I could, you know, call on.
But I'm sure he's still there whenever I could,
and whenever I wanted to call on him
or try to get some advice or anything like that.
Because I obviously am not in boxing at all.
I don't understand the industry to this degree for my next question.
Is there ever any sort of like when people are coming up
that like certain camps don't want to help other camps?
camps get better or is there like camaraderie within boxing as a whole yeah i mean i mean i
feel like that's just with with any sport competition yeah it's just competition um yeah i mean
boxing like a lonely sport it's not really like it's not really like it's not really like a team
sport it's not really like when people come together and help each other everybody helps each other
it's more like you know everybody stand on their own and you know yeah i see you at the top pretty
much yeah do you for for preparing for fights like lomenchenko or any of your other fights have you
which is May 20th by the way
yeah when you're ready 100%
100% yeah like if you
if you pulled up right now
no if you pull it up right here
right now I fight him
I fight him in the pool if we had
oh man so okay so
with that being said like do you ever
like how does the
besides your training skills
like the endurance work the weight training
do you ever like watch tape on them
do you ever try to understand
yeah I mean I got a team
that specifically just works on just film and just like they put together like a whole like
breakdown of every every flaw every like habit everything that they that my point it does good
what they do bad what like literally like dissect them like it takes them like weeks and weeks
to to like to put it together and so like I just studied that and um yeah does that really pay
off. Yeah, for sure. You saw the stuff that happened after the Trevanton, the Ryan fight. He was like
there was someone in his camp that was given information. Do you think that would be detrimental in a
fight? I don't know. I mean, because me, I just feel like somebody can study me as much as they want.
They can study me all day, all day long. And that doesn't, I feel like I just got so many different
styles. I'm so just like, I just make adjustments so much to whatever my opponent brings that it
wouldn't matter how much they study me. Because like, it could be a, it could be a totally,
different fighter that show up on flight night than what you've been watching and with every fighter
that I fight I get better like the better the competition the better I fight so um you know
somebody studying me it might be a worse asshole but because because they're expecting something
yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah that makes sense yeah um so let's talk about so I'm trying to do
too much studying I try not to get too drawn into to my opponent too much because I like to be
fresh I like to be able to make adjustments I like to be able to just think and not try to focus on
you know one thing or two things and then you know i'll be thrown off on fight night so i obviously
i never did boxing um i did olympic weightlifting competitively and like there's that moment when
you get to that level and like you're going to hit the lift and everything kind of like you don't
almost not not necessarily black out but like you don't have to think so much about the thing that
you're doing like i'm not okay i got to focus on this it kind of just happens yeah boxing for you
when you're in it is everything slow is everything fast are you calm like what's
so like what's your view because everyone sees what happens yeah when you're fighting you just like
it happens so fast like it just like like goals like you you don't even have time to really just think
about like what's really happening like you got to really just react and just like i don't know
it's hard to explain but it just it just happens so fast everything goes so fast it's like fast forwarding
like quick like it's it's like jumping do you ever are you ever in your own mind like fuck i could
be doing better at this or I could be doing better at that or like I'm getting tired now when you
when you when you're under those lights and the world is looking at you and you have time to even
think about that like before a fight you're nervous you're nervous before a fight and then once you
once you the bell rings all the nerves go away everything because you don't have time to even
think about it like you don't even have time to it's just it's go time like yeah all the nerve everything
everything that you could possibly think you see people in the crowd you don't even think about it
you just like it's like it goes in like everything kind of disappears just everything just
disappears and now it's just tunnel vision is there are there any points like when you're in your
corner and you're like they're touching you up are you ever like looking around thinking like
like what's happening i mean obviously you never you're you never lost so you never been in that
yeah yeah yeah i mean yeah for sure you yeah you think you you you definitely you think about
what's going on or you know like you might have a cut or something like that you might see
a replay on the um of you getting fucking pop in slow motion yeah yeah you might be you be
It might be you getting punch or you might be punching them.
It might be a headbutt.
It might be whatever the case may be.
The crowd may go crazy because they're looking at the replay
and they see a good punch or something like that.
Maybe a fighting in a crowd.
You know, it's just so much just going on.
Real, like real talk.
Like do you ever get in your own mind when you're out there and you're waiting?
Like is anything that's happening?
Like waiting before like, you know, the rounds,
they get you get in the corner?
No.
Is anything ever catch your attention?
You just always laser.
No, no, no.
Once I'm in there, it's just tunnel vision.
And like you stuff happens and so much stuff be happening, but you don't even, you don't have time to even think.
It's just like, you're so focused on the next round, listening to your coach, listen to your team.
I was going to ask you that because I was always curious as a, as a viewer, the coaches are always saying stuff.
And I'm always like, how much is actually like hitting you where you're like, okay, I should listen to this advice and go in there and like apply that?
Or is it just like he's just saying something?
No, no, no, no, no.
you um i hear like my my coach my dad my team i hear those familiar voices that i'm in training with
but other than that i don't hear anybody else like i don't really hear like like that's so crazy
a bunch people be screaming stuff like that but i don't hear them but the people that um that i'm with
like on a daily basis like it's even my friends or even my my my team you hear them cheering or what
they're saying yes i hear them yeah damn yeah it's so attuned to that yeah that's insane like and even when
Even when I get in the ring, right, I never know where, like, my family's sitting.
Like, I know, like, the area or whatever the case, but sometimes I still wouldn't know.
When I get in the ring, I could always, for some reason, it's like, where is this God?
I could always find my mom.
Like, I always see her.
For some reason, like, I always see her.
That's dope.
Yeah.
That's so cool.
So I was watching George's podcast a little bit.
So you got into boxing because you were, like, a shit head.
You were, like, kind of just fucking with people?
No, I was, I was a bad kid.
But I was a bad kid because.
And you're from San Francisco, right?
No, I was born in San Francisco, but I'm from Oakland.
Okay.
I just didn't, like, I just had a bunch of energy, and I just always loved to fight,
and I didn't really, like, know where to put my energy into.
Like, I didn't know that I really had a passion for fighting, but, like, I knew that I liked
to fight as a kid.
Like, I would always want to fight, but...
But you're just aggressive to fucking people?
Yeah, I was just aggressive.
I was like...
Are you a bully?
Yeah, I was a bully to some extent.
But I also got bullied, too, as a kid, too, though.
Yeah.
Like, you know, like, when you, I was, I was, like, small.
So, you know, like, I did some bullying, but I also got bullied.
That's just part.
That's what comes with.
I mean, every kid, I'm sure every kid has probably got bullied also.
Even if they were a bully, I'm sure somebody, somebody bigger than them.
Of course.
Or maybe that's how they become a bully by just being bullied or whatever.
So that, like, I don't get it, though.
Your dad was like, oh, you're doing too much shit.
I'm going to put you in here.
So I was fighting.
I was fighting a lot in school.
So one day my dad was like, you know, if you want to fight in school, I'm going to take you to the boxing gym.
And you're going to give you.
beat up and every time that you keep
riding in school I'm gonna keep bringing
you to the boxing because when I was fighting in school
I was like I was a good street fighter I was winning
like I wasn't like losing so
my dad was like I'm gonna find somebody
that really knows how to fight nigga I'm just trying to picture
the person who got beat up from you like in school
now knowing that you're like 29
it's like fuck it don't make sense
like imagine that dude watching you like
oh sure some people just naturally good at this shit
not that you don't train on it's just whatever
whatever it is like you know
everybody has their talents and in life you got to just find what you're like what your talent is what
you're what you're good at and so like with boxing i'm just i was naturally good at it something i
truly love to do and i i get paid for it and when did you when did it go from like i'm bullied
and my dad's bringing me here to like oh i actually really like this boxing thing like what age
were you um so like when i first started boxing i didn't really like boxing uh i was playing
football at the time as well and i liked football because it was like more of a team
thing it was like when you're a kid football and like basketball those team sports are more fun boxing
is a lonely sport like I said yeah so when I first started I was like I don't really like this like
it's boring so um I would say like around like 12 I remember my football team we lost every game of
the season like we like we sucked I was the only good player of my team like my team sucks
I was your position I was a running back so um I remember on the last game the last game of the
season I was like I quit I'm done with this shit I was like I'm done with this
I'm about to just stick to I'm about to just stick to boxing because you can control
that yeah so because it's if I if I win it's on me if I lose it's on me like like I can
control my own destiny like I don't have to rely on the team of and little kids I don't
even care about like winning they don't care about you know they just they're trying to
get participation trophy yeah yeah they're just showing up just because their parents are
making them or whatever so um with boxing I
I was able to control my destiny.
I never liked to lose since a little kid.
Like, when we would lose every game, I would cry.
Like, I would cry like I was playing for the championship.
So with boxing, that's where I was like, no, I'm about to just go forward to boxing.
So that's when I started taking it fully serious.
So at what point did you realize, like, you could be great?
Like, were people in your ear being like, yo, you can do this?
Yeah.
They always said I was good.
but I would say when I was like 14 that's when I really was like
like at 14 people were youth like you like I can be great at this shit
yeah yeah because that's when I was on I was on the like the junior
Olympic team we were like traveling all over the world like we went to like
Ukraine we went to Italy Dominican Republic we went all over for the Junior
Olympics and like I was winning I was doing good so I was like damn I'm kind of good
at this yeah what's your overall and I was sparring
pros at like 1415. I was sparring like the top pros in the sport of boxing. So and I was getting
the best of them at 14 years old, 15 years old. So like who? I want to say but. Damn. But it was like
some some top pros that was fighting the championship fights. Any current guys now? Um, I don't think not
no current guys now. Not right now. No. So you start boxing for for other reason and you fall in
love with it and you realize like I can be great at this what do you think like the main driver
obviously besides not losing because don't want to lose you're going to cry as we know I would cry
as well if I had 29 and on I had that one what's the main thing that really pushes you besides not
losing yeah I mean one I want to be a great in the sport like you know like I said I don't
I didn't get in this to be just mediocre I want to be you know all time great and I feel like I'm
I'm heading towards that, so, you know, I'm not going to stop until, you know, I've reached
the ultimate goal.
And, too, you know, I do this for my family.
I want to, you know, be a great role model for my family, all the Muslims around the
world that's looking at me as a role model, people, you know, that, that, that are looking
up to me.
Yeah.
What does it mean, what does it mean for you to be a great?
Like, what is that, is it just, just money or just to be a good example?
Yeah, I mean, no, to be to.
to be a great a great role model to the people watching me you know showing showing them
you know the the route that I'm did that I'm doing it because I haven't I didn't do it like
the mediocre I mean not the mediocre the the regular route that a lot of people would take
I turned pro at 17 years old I didn't go to the Olympics I started training I started fighting in
Mexico I turned pro in Mexico I was fighting in bars um what yeah I was fighting I was fighting
Yeah, I was fighting bars in Tijuana because I was too, I was too young to turn pro in the United States.
They, they, I tried to get my boxing license in California, and they, um, they denied me.
They said I was too young.
So they were like, oh, well, if he goes to Mexico and, uh, are you fighting like grown men in Mexico?
Yeah, I was fighting grown men, yeah, I was fighting grown men.
I was fighting old men.
I was fighting all, what the fuck?
Yeah, I was fighting against, in bars where the whole bar was against me.
And, um, yeah.
What the fuck?
Yeah, it was crazy.
That's not, that's not traditional in the boxing world.
No, no, no, no, no.
You know, especially for a guy like me, I was a good amateur.
So I was, like I said, I was on a junior team.
I was on a youth team.
Why did you have to go that route?
Well, because once they took the headgear off, the headgear to fight, it was like either
go pro or fighting the amateurs with no headgear.
So it's like basically like I'm fighting in the amateurs as a pro, like, if that makes sense.
I don't know if you, like, understand that.
But it was like, stay amateur and fight the best fighters in the world with no headgear.
So, like, mean like a pro fight?
Yeah.
Or just turn professional and start building towards my professional career.
So that way I could be like this, 24 years old and the best in the world.
I saw I've always wondered.
How are they determining when you start to fight pro or not?
Because I know you fought Ryan in the past.
Obviously, you fought a bunch of other fighters.
You fought people in bars.
Yeah. How many fights do you have total? How many? What's your actual win loss?
So I, when I was amateur, my amateur record was 130 and 8.
130? Yeah, 130 wins, eight losses.
Like, how many, I mean, I don't know if you know.
I don't know. I don't know. So many fights. And my first, my first fight, I was eight years old.
So, yeah, it was an amateur fight. So I couldn't even tell you a lot, a lot of those fights I don't even remember.
like I probably could name like 20 20 30 that's insane
do you really live this shit
yeah for sure you're never afraid of that like fucking your head up
you know the CTE shit yeah nah
you don't even think about that do you ever I mean because there
I mean some people have just straight up I'm not I'm not trying to make this more
it no I think people just straight up died in boxing like you that never ever
crosses your mind no they're just not gonna hit you
hard I don't know I just don't think about that like I don't know I just feel like
You shouldn't.
I just feel like if you like, that's like saying like, you know, guys are like who
when you do that shit, you can't think about it.
Like you cannot think about like, I don't know.
You just be in your own head if you think about it like.
Yeah.
When you play football, you don't think about that shit.
You didn't.
I agree.
Whatever you do, you don't think about the bad in there or like, you know, just like with weight lifting.
You don't think about like.
If I'm not going to do you think about I'm going to do this.
Yeah.
Like, oh, I could fucking tear my shoulder or, you know, whatever, whatever.
You don't think about that shit.
You just do it.
You try to do it.
you try to do it, be prepared, and be the best you can be at it.
Okay, so that concept, being the best that you can be at something.
Obviously, you live by that.
Who ingrained that in you?
Where did you, like, when did you start to realize that?
Because you're a kid, obviously, boxing.
You realize I'm good at fighting.
You're dealing with what bully you're doing a bully shit.
You're being kind of an asshole.
But then you start boxing.
Now it's like you're good at this.
When did you start to realize like, okay, how do I really push myself in this without
of being like i don't know uh how do i say like you're doing it with the right intentions and
knowing that like there's like they're going to be the sort of outcome that you're looking for
you know what i mean you never really know the outcomes you know you really just try to just
do it you know you study the greats you try to follow the the greats lead and try to just be
the best you can be at it you know there's no you know you never really know you just
try to do it at the highest level and hope for the best outcome and so far is going good for me
Yeah. Have you ever felt have you ever been in a fight where you like it was that you felt like it wasn't going to go good for you? No
Never no I just no damn I'm just like I'm just like I feel like that's like they say like 90% of it is like mental to be honest
So you know you can't you can't go in there expecting that. Oh, you know I don't think it's gonna go well or what if you don't know
You just I know I know what I'm what I'm gonna do why I'm capable of I know that I'm the best I know
I know that he can't beat me.
I know that he doesn't train harder than me.
I know that the things I've been through,
that he hasn't been through.
He hasn't pushed yourself like I have.
So, nah, I don't think about that.
You don't think there's any other fighter out there, right?
No.
No.
No.
You never think about, like, the thoughts after losing a fight?
Do you ever come across that?
I mean, he lost on soon as that.
I'm saying, like, if you ever lose a fight,
how do you think that'll change your mindset on things?
Because, like, for example, Ryan came here.
I interviewed him same as like when I'm talking to you obviously like you're a different human
but you guys both have the same exact look where I'm like this motherfucker is certain of himself
100% certain but I just feel like you got to be like that just even at the at at the top like
to be compete at the highest level you cannot think nobody's better than you cannot like
you got to really that got to be installed in your head like and no I'm the best like no it's
there's no chance like no I'm gonna nobody can be me how do you develop them
type of mindset yeah that's what i'm curious about because like i feel like a lot of people don't
don't develop or have a mindset like that where they're like you know what like i'm the best
the best i cannot be beat how do you develop that type of and how do you really hold that
because this it's easy to say like i understand you like i would never i would never tell you to
doubt yourself because i know that you wouldn't there's no way you're getting 20 i know without
without yourself but the question is like for people listening who are obviously maybe not trying
to be fucking boxes at your level but something else in their life how do you think you teach someone like
that to really fucking believe in
the self, not just because it sounds cool.
Because you clearly really believe in yourself.
I mean, I would
have to believe in myself.
Like, like,
it's shown that, like,
I've been fighting the best fighters in the world.
My last, my last two fights, I went to Australia,
not once but twice,
beat the champ,
prove myself, showed,
showed the world that I really believe
in myself. I'm not just, you know,
I don't, I don't just talk it.
I really walk it, whatever.
The people that I've called out,
best fighters when they actually wanted to fight me i fought them um so back to your question where
yeah where do you where do you get that how do i how you develop it i don't know i can't really
say that's just in you i don't know i guess you got you never think about this kind of stuff
you never stopped me like damn how did not how did i get not because i don't know it's so normal
for me so i never really like i don't know baby you don't do no god you don't do like no
I think it's God.
I think it's God.
You don't do no, like, no journaling, no meditation type of thing.
No, seriously, I want to know.
That's right.
I don't, but, no, I just be praying.
I'd be praying like crazy.
I'd be on my dean heavy, praying, you know.
Are you like, please don't let me get knocked out this fight?
Like, what are you praying?
Nah, I say, let me knock him out this fight.
Yeah?
Yeah, no, I just, I pray to Allah, and I just put it in Allah's hands and train hard,
push myself leave no stone unturned and you won't leave no doubt when you when you truly
believing yourself and you just you know that you didn't cut no corners you did everything you could
yeah then it's it's nothing to doubt and uh whatever is going to happen is going to happen is
it's it's it's in god's hands do you think losing would change this perspective at all for you
no i don't think about losing i love it but do you think let's theoretically obviously
we don't we don't that's not even i love it i love it i like
When you keep thinking about losing, losing, losing, losing,
shit, you might lose.
Fuck all that.
Because your streak's, what, 29, right?
Yeah, 29.
29, 29.
Yeah, 29.
Yeah.
29.
We're going for number 30.
That's crazy as fuck, bro.
30 and O coming soon, May 20.
That's fucking, that's different, man.
When's the next fight?
May 20.
May 20.
In Vegas.
So, reactions to the, obviously, this is,
we're going to talk about your fight a little bit more,
but reactions to Tank and Ryan.
what did you think um i didn't really to be honest i didn't see the whole fight i was on my way
to the fight and it was like i was rushing but from what i what i did see um it looked like
it looked like ryan you know he he had doubt in himself you know i know he talked a good game
before the fight but um i really wanted to talk to ryan about this but as soon as i saw his
face on camera there's something you can tell you can really tell in people's eyes yeah he was
standing that ring and i was like he's before they even started fighting oh
I was looking at him, like, I think he doubted himself.
Yeah, I think so, too.
I think they got to his head when they said that it was a mole in his camp.
And I think he started to, like, really doubt himself, doubt his team,
doubt his preparation, and it showed.
So how do you think that fight would go with you and Ryan?
Because he taught, on my pot, he was talking about you, you would be next,
if he, you know?
No, I mean, I like Ryan.
I think Ryan, you know, he got to go back to the drum board and, you know,
get his mind.
right get everything right you know refocus focus on his team and then uh we'll see but you know
right now Ryan he's going through a lot you know he just came coming from he's coming off of a loss
you know the biggest fight of his career yeah I'm going into the biggest fight of my career
and uh focus on winning so Ryan's not really you know I think Ryan also jumped ahead of
himself like you know focusing on me uh yeah you know what what would be next which you know I
like that he said that he will fight me next but you know he should have been focused on on the
task ahead you know so that's not what that's not something i'm gonna do is i'm gonna focus on you know
loma may 20th and then uh i know i just got asked these questions i know i've watched a few
videos you got like mad for people ask you this kind of shit we'll see i had to ask we'll see uh
what the future holds so you're not going to give me predictions on you versus tank or
no i mean because we got to get past loma first okay okay fair fair fair fair fair fair
Oh, God, I love it.
Okay, so let me ask you something on a different, on a different vein of things, but still obviously related to boxing.
De La Jollaoya is like talking about Mayweather when he's like, yeah, like, because Mayweather's like, oh, he's a fucking YouTuber and all this kind of like ideas around boxers being social media people and kind of like Mayweather's a little bit slanderous of it.
And De La Jolla is like, well, you basically box these YouTubers for money and like Clout and you're using this.
How much do you think YouTube and these YouTubers and this YouTube boxing stuff has affected the sport of boxing?
I think it brought a lot of viewership to boxing.
I think a ton, man.
Yeah, I mean, look at you.
Like, probably, like, what, three years ago, you weren't even probably into boxing.
None of you guys.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, like, the way that the YouTubers have brought, like, eyeballs to the sport of boxing, it's been good, to be honest.
To me, I feel like.
How important do you think it is?
Because, like, I think, I mean, this last fight, their fight was, like, one of the number one pay-per-views.
sold ever yeah it get fucking completely dominated so how important do you think this is now
to the sport of boxing like youtube this podcast of all these interviews yeah i mean i think i think
it's a big big part of boxing i mean it's like the new the new wave the new millennial the new
new thing to do and um like i said it's it's good for boxing you know many it's young kids
now watching boxing girls watching boxing like all because of of the YouTubers and the influencers
you know getting into boxing do you do you see yourself doing more like because i've seen you
slowly kind of doing more of this stuff yeah um do you would you consider doing more like
because i mean i look at your page it's like just strictly boxing it's like you know you can
tell there's shots of you doing what you do but would you do more social media shit yeah yeah yeah
no no for sure yeah i definitely will do more like social media stuff um well like what kind of stuff
if you if you didn't do boxing stuff on your page what would you post like what else are you into
because we know you look at box i like fashion like i'm into like fashion like crazy okay um
i want to get more into like the fashion tip like runways like really like modeling on
on that type you would do runway shit yeah i would do yourself yeah yeah yeah i would do i want to
get into that i'm getting into that like a lot of big brands have reached out to me to do to do it
but i'm always fighting around those times when like it's like the runways and like paris and new york
and all that but um yeah it's so i just can't like get into the
TikTok like I cannot make TikToks like me personally me personally I just not like I don't know
that just not really you're not the dancing guy yeah I'm not the dancing to go make a TikTok you
know like I did it with a few like females in the in the past it's on you know like on that type
time but to be honest I'm not really like a yeah I get you tick tocker you spend a lot of time on
social media yeah yeah I will say for the most part yeah I do I try to like not like try to like balance
it but right now when I'm in training camp it ain't nothing to do you have a girl I mean
talk about I mean I'm just I've got this a lot yeah I mean I'm just living life you know um
you're 24 you're fucking you're young man yeah um I'm blessed to be in a position that I am
I love that I'm blessed to be I'm blessed to be in a position that I am um yeah the world
has saw me in relationships yeah but um I'm at the point
to where I'm tired of, you know, being, being in, you know, relationships on the internet.
And, you know, when you, when you, when your relationship is on the internet, the, the world gets to
determine if y'all are together, if y'all, if y'all aren't, you know, if y'all having trouble,
whatever the case may be. So I try to keep my love life, you know, private now.
And then let the world just say whatever they're going to say, because right now they're saying
some crazy stuff. Well, they always say crazy stuff, but I'm not here here to clear it up
or doing that like that. They can think what they want to think.
Just tune in May 20th
Yeah
It's huge
It's gonna be big man
Yeah for sure
So you have five belts
Yeah five belts
Wait WBC
I BF
WBA WBA WBO WBO
Ring Magazine
Franchise
Email
I got like six
So this guy beats you
He gets all of those
No it's no if
It's not an if
I'm saying
I'm saying
No
No
When I went
It's so crazy
When I win
I retain all my belts
Take them all
Back home with me
To my house
You never
In Vegas
He's not losing
bro
Get it. I believe you're going to win. I would bet on you 100%. I'm going to put them back in my trophy case. They're going to look real good. You know, my family get to see my friends when they come over. You know, my little sister's going to be, you know, cleaning them, wiping them, walking around them, walking around with them. You know, put them back in the Rose Royce.
Brother, no self-doubt is good. Yes. That's a strong mindset to have. That's the thing that I find most impressive is just the zero chance. I'm like, you know, but y'all don't think that, like, you don't, you cannot think. You cannot think. You cannot think.
that and be successful do you do you do you do you doubt do you doubt yourself are you in your head
because some people some people that's how they're they're great too i guess they so they they think for
you know they they think the what if and what whatnot that that's what makes them go harder is is
is that no so you're you're right this is the thing and i kind of want to get into it is is like just
the fact that i jokingly say like yo if you lost and you go right to like that's not happening
yeah the the self reinforcement of what you believe to happen and like you setting your intentions
behind that is so powerful it seems like you probably never let that creep in because the minute
it hits you you probably go exactly no that's not happening because we're we're all human
everybody has that like you can see something crazy or somebody doing something crazy and then
you'll look and then you got to get back control of your mind and be like all right i'm not
even going to pay attention or you know like even somebody like like if you're walking down
the homeless person just doing something
something crazy right you'll look at them and then you'll be like all right like i'm not even
going to pay them no mind so you got to just get get your mind back come back over here refocus and um yeah
so when those when those thoughts come into my head throw them out get back refocus yeah there is no
how long even but i truly but i'm truly a believer my dad told me that but i'm truly a believer in god
and you know i i i pray i trust allah and uh you know i love it i know that he's
He has my back.
He, I tell him every day, you know, continue to guide me and look over me and make me victorious.
I'm 820.
So, inshallah, you know, we, I'm victorious and victory.
It's just such a, it's just, it's, I think it's so important people listening, man, like that concept of like checking yourself, your thoughts, checking what people say to you, like, what thoughts you're allowing to be in.
It's just so important and actually like achieving things.
Because you're right.
Like, we're human.
The mind will wander off no matter what, like this.
You cannot help it.
It would wander off to think the most craziest stuff,
but you got to just get it back in check.
Has there ever been any moments in your career
where you felt like you were farther off
than you should have been?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's definitely been times where, you know,
you start making a lot of money,
you start getting, like, you know, fame and stuff like that
to where, you know, you get sidetracked,
but you got to have a good team
or just, you know, that self-control.
control to know when you're getting too far this way and to come back get back on the right
path so it's whether it's your team or yourself but you got to have one or the other because like
I said we're when you're human all the everything comes fast the the money the women the fame
yeah all that comes so fast but um so you will get sidetracked but women are distractions man
that's like this man that's one of the craziest things how much energy goes into that
Women are like, like,
kryptonite to some of the people, like some, some, some men.
She can ruin your career.
Bro, women is like, if, if you don't have your girl, girl game together,
women can fuck you up all the way completely.
Yeah, because not just emotionally and like that tie,
but like, obviously financially and all the stuff that comes along with it.
Yeah.
It's just so, I think, I don't know, I think a lot of guys nowadays,
like, people try and they focus so much on, like, getting a girl or having a girl
and like they should be focusing on themselves and like building themselves
and building their legacy every girl wants a strong man um so I want a successful man
so when a man is successful strong you know women are going to come yeah but um I don't know
I just feel like I'm I'm I'm the type of guy like I hate for a woman to be able to like
make my day or break like break my day like to have that control over my feelings and like
and that so when I feel like women has like a girl will have that control to mess in my day or make my day or you know like can just trigger me that easy I like tend to like try to like separate myself yeah yeah exactly try to separate myself because I that's just a fucked up feeling like you know like it's terrible and women are like they're women so they're all over the place with it so you never know what to you never know what to expect so you got to just had that in order fuck man so let's talk about
about like your your regimen without giving away obviously too much information but how how important
is like your diet how important is your strength training like do you focus on that is it all
just like specific sure um i i got a nutritionist that that like cooks all my meals um he's super
strict but 135 is you know hard for me to make it's not easy for me to make what's your normal
walk around um i try not to get too too big but um i get pretty big but not too big so so you don't
what's your normal weight like two one what not too big not too big not a thing
you don't want to say not too big not too big not too small just perfect the perfect weight
so um oh dude the boxing fans are already pissed at me right now they're probably so mad when they
hear that they're like you idiot is that a thing i don't know i don't know bro i want to weigh you dude
you want to wait i want to fucking pick you out want to see how much you weigh what's your i was
I was like, I'm just trying to imagine, I'm trying to imagine myself.
I was, I'm like 260.
If I drop down to like a boxing weight, like how much, I don't know if I feel.
You would be a heavyweight.
So you would, you wouldn't, you wouldn't have to like.
But I'm just trying to feel like how much would I feel weaker, would I feel like,
obviously I know I feel probably faster, sharper.
Yeah, I mean, it's that sweet spot.
You got to know, like, you know, what's cutting too much weight, what's cutting the right
amount of weight, you know, you just never know until fight night.
You can think that like, all right, well, I didn't cut that.
much weight or I cut I cut just the right amount of weight and on fighting out you
feel fucked up you feel depleted that's why I got you know professionals to
help me with my weight because I have did that in the past I have you know cut
weight on my own and been eating the wrong foods and the wrong diet and this and
that and in a fight I felt just completely depleted but since I've hired my
nutritionist he's he's the best and I just feel so much better so much
stronger and yeah before your fight what's like your
meal. Like you're going into the, are you just like drinking coffee and a little water?
No, no, no. I'd be eating so much for my fights. I'll probably eat like steak.
Even when you're cutting. Oh, oh, oh, before like. Yeah, I'm talking about like, I'm talking about like
the, you know, let's say three days before a fight. Oh, three days before a fight. I'm eating
like little portions. Like rice and I'm eating like fish and stuff like that. Um, but just like
berries, fish, chicken, like a little bit of rice.
Small meals.
Just small meals, small portions, but like multiple times a day.
You have, like, something that you eat, like, before you, like, this is my, like,
the last meal thing before you go in, like something specific?
Before the fight?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, I eat like pasta, like carbs.
You carve up.
Yeah, carb up.
But you probably feel so good.
Yeah, steak.
I like, I like to eat steak before my fights.
You don't feel heavy.
No, I feel good.
Yeah.
Like, I always, so, like, before my fights, I like to go in.
So during training, I'm at a weight where I feel like, like, I feel like, I feel
like my best at sparring I feel strongest I feel like good at and I always try to make sure
I put on that much weight after the way in to where I'm at that weight where I feel the best
in training oh I see I see so have you ever fucked that up besides I mean more recently in your career
yeah yeah yeah I've earlier earlier in my career I've put on too much weight to where I feel
like sluggish like where I feel like oh like I was I was kind of fat like a little like just put on
too much weight too fast drinking like Gatorade and just like not doing the right things
putting too much like sugar sugar in me and stuff like that and then I've also fucked up where
I put not enough like not enough electrolytes not enough not enough things yeah eating like
a little like eating junk and not eating the right stuff so now after my wands I don't I don't
go just eat and go pig out I eat the right things the right things that I put the right
things back into my body to where I can perform the best not not things that just taste the best
to me yeah I used to just I used to just be like oh whatever I was craving all through training
camp whatever if it was a pizza or whatever the case may be or whatever you know eat before you
no no no no I used to do that yeah I used to do that yeah no no no no careful what you say
yeah yeah no no no no no because Ryan was on here joking about like not eating before the
javanta fight yeah I saw that but it was like a joke like and they took it crazy I didn't get
it I I I found out that he was joking but he was
he sounded serious so like us boxing we were like selling the fight that shit went
crazy no i went not but i like since when he said it i was like he's obviously not he's not
he's not serious he didn't just not eat like that's not a real thing you put in a contract you know
don't eat for a few days that's insane no bro i think he was serious because he was talking and i'm a
boxer so i'm like what the fuck like you thought he was for real i thought he was for real damn
he was also talking about like not drinking water during training he was he was talking about like not drinking water
during training
well he was talking about how he doesn't
so was he drinking water in training camp
what he was saying is that he doesn't like to be full
of water when he trains or when he's fighting
he was talking about how like he doesn't like to be like drinking a lot of
water where he likes to feel just kind of like lighter
for some reason he feels better like he doesn't go into workouts
like he said he feels more sluggish type shit
like if you weren't drink Gatorade you feel sluggish
right yeah yeah see me like I'm like the opposite
like I drink like you see I keep my water with me
Like, I'm drinking, I'm drinking a gallon to a gallon and a half of water every day.
This is ideal.
I mean, the truth is, the more water you drink, the more actual, like, natural flushing you will do in your body.
See, but I saw that with Ryan, and I saw that he really, like, he looked it like he took the water out too early.
And I feel like that's where he had a lot of trouble in the fight as well because he looked at like dry to me.
He looked at like, even when he was on the podcast, even when I watched him on the podcast, he looked at like skinny and he looked at like he cut water.
and that's not that's I used to do that in the past and once I like got that game and I understood that like bro you got it you got it the water may put weight on you like you may see a big number on that scale but it's not real weight it's not real weight yeah so I think that's just the way he is that's what I'm saying so like I think that's something if he re and I haven't talked to him since the fight I think that's something if he revisits like his actual water consumption overall yeah I think he'll because your body actually drinking more water you produce more of the hormone that makes you excrete more water so he's not exactly
hold on to more water exactly so it's it's it's counterintuitive people think if i drink more water
i'm just going to be thicker but it's when you're drinking at this level that you're doing
you're actually excreting more water and your your ability to cut water is actually easier yeah and it's bad
to to to work out when you're dehydrated like you're when your body's like dry when your bones
like when you're muscles are dry yeah that's the worst thing to do is to that's when injuries
happen and you just like it's like driving a car with no oil in it yeah you like it's
yeah bad i wonder if he was up there like fuck i didn't drink enough
fucking water he's just like I'm fucking no I doubt it I doubt it but shit I hope he
I hope he learns from it yeah I think you will um so diet wise so besides that
training okay so training is obviously sports specific technique how much stuff do you do in
the gym and like how what does that look like are you like squatting are you deadlifting yeah
yeah yeah I'm deadlifting I'm squatting I'm bench pressing um this training camp I did a lot of weights
I did a lot of weights this camp, and I look to show on fighting that, like, how much stronger,
how much, like, even my legs.
My legs have got, like, way bigger.
I mean, yeah, dude, you're 24.
Like, you're just getting bigger, period.
Yeah, yeah.
So I look to just show how much better, how much stronger I've gotten since my last fight.
Damn, I always, I keep wanting to ask you these questions, like, after the fight, but we can't.
It's like, I always, I just want to ask about these.
other people after the fight i'm gonna come back we yeah okay okay cool what's i got a
courier um so on this fight is there anything that stands out from him as a fighter that you're
like i gotta look out for that yeah i mean he he he has experience he is yeah a lot of good feet
good angles he um he uh he's slick he seems hydrated uh seems hydrated now yeah yeah i mean yeah he's
i'm sure he's hydrated he's a lot smaller than me so um
I'm sure his diet doesn't have to be as strict as mine.
Yes.
Like height-wise, how much smaller?
I think he's like 5-6 or something like that.
Your how tall?
5-9.
Oh, shit, he's tiny.
Yeah, so I'm, but I'm big for the weight.
Oh, yeah.
What about the reach?
What's the difference?
My reach is like six inches longer.
Oh, shit.
Wait, he's 66.
His reach is 66.
I'm 71.
So, yeah.
How much should I bet on you?
Um, well.
Yeah, dude, I'm betting on you.
I'm betting on you.
I'm 100%.
I'm not trying to pressure, but there's a lot of pressure.
No, but I'm a Muslim, so I can't condone, like, betting.
Oh, shit.
I'm going to bet.
Yeah.
So, I mean, you're growing, so you can do whatever you want to do.
Brett, how much you've been on him?
I bet 10K on Ryan.
I lost 10K on you.
Oh, shit, don't bet on me either.
No, I'm betting on you.
No.
Do you win your bets?
Well, I lost the one on Ryan.
Before that.
Sometimes.
You're going to win this one.
No, dude.
29 and no what's your what's your what's your what's your what's your bedding ratio that's
betting is betting what do you mean it's like it's good it's bad are you up or are you
overall yeah you're down most people are you most people most people most people are down
I mean that's just I was trying to use that same confidence thing but I was like no
that's just the gambling thing no gambling's fuck it's not it's not always the best
thing to do but you but I'm a win though so I mean like I said I can't I can't
like condone the gambling I can't like you know
But um 15 knockouts I say I'm a win
I'll do I'll bet what I'm comfortable
I have a question I'm a win
With a knockout is that what you're going for
I just know that I'm gonna win and uh you know we just gotta see man
I know I'm gonna be dominant I know I'm gonna win clear
I'm making it a lot easier than what a lot of people think is gonna be
And um I'm gonna show the world that I'm the best fighter in the world
Dude I just god damn these fucking fighters and they're just their confidence is
so crazy but you have to be like that no i know i'm not saying that because oh you have to be like
like that but in reality you really have to be like that because we go in there and we're going in there
to hurt each other like yeah straight so you cannot go in there with like oh like to be like to be like
i'll do my best yeah yeah i'll do my best and if he beats me up you know like no like no fuck that
i wish everyone like i'm going in there to beat him up like fuck that i wish everyone like was able to
like adopt that mentality the world would be just so much cooler i think people would work so much
harder. Yeah, but
I mean, in reality
not saying you're going to fight. No, no, it sounds
good though, but, you know, if everybody had the same
mentality, if everybody was
fucking, then, you know, some people got to
you know, like, it's just
different levels to it. Yeah, yeah, it wouldn't be
as, that makes the world go around. Yeah,
that's fair. That's fair.
Shit, speaking of the world, the world's a little
crazy right now. It's a
crazy time. You've seen the AI shit?
No, you haven't seen the
AI stuff not wait you really not on the internet like no no I know I think I know what
you're talking about Drake AI stuff is like Drake's song all this the AI's okay yeah so
so so so I don't know what like you really is I see it on TikTok but AI like he makes
lyrics like no no no no no no no no who's AI AI is a it's a computer okay yeah okay so
AI AI is like okay I said he because you made me that you were talking about like AI
yeah no no no no so so the computer
makes it sound like Drake like Drake's rapping right yeah because they take his voice
and his words and they put like well someone is like engineering this using AI taking his
from other see you said his taking Drake's face yeah we're not AI taking Drake's voice
and putting it into a computer and then obviously doing other engineering tactics to make it
sound more like him yeah but it's it's computer generated it's all computer generated but it sounds
like Drake I seem like Drake a little bit like fire songs not like bro it sounded like fucking
I was like, this is...
So it confused me because I was like, wait, is this Drake or is it like
unreleased or like, what the fun?
But, no, I feel like there's, I think there's lawsuits over that shit already.
There has to be because it's so, there was like a Drake weekend song.
There were songs that like I was listening.
I literally downloaded and I'm listening to it.
It's good.
So when are they going to do AI boxing?
They can't.
Just kidding.
They can't do that.
Why?
Just replace you.
They can't.
They probably do like some, some podcast shit or like some.
voiceover stuff like you it'd be like me sitting here you sitting here and us talking yeah you saying
some stupid shit or like they're just making shit up that people yeah just us just talking but not
really talking that the reason why i ask you this question wasn't so much about all this bullshit but
more so like how much of like this other out in the world shit do you consume like are you are you
are you out there like on social media like looking at this stuff are you reading articles are you just
like is your life just a hundred percent boxing no no like i would say like a lot of my time
is boxing like when i'm locked in like when i say when it's time to lock in oh i'm dedicated 100
and it's boxing nothing else boxing yeah and then after that like when it's time to chill
it's time to to relax and of course you know i'm a human at the end today i still have you know down time
to do whatever and travel
and go this place and that place
and do what regular
people do. Yeah.
I can't ask you this question.
Speaking of music, what's your go-to song
when you're training?
Go to.
Like, that's going to lock, like, you're locked in.
Like, an artist you like always put it on.
It's crazy is like, bro, I listen to like
DMX.
Oh my God, let's go.
You spoke with DMX?
Fuck yeah.
Yeah, I'll fuck with like DMX,
JZ.
There's none of the new shit.
Now, I fuck with the new shit, but, like, when I'm, when I'm, like, in camp, like,
so say, like, I'm, like, in Miami somewhere, I, like, listen to, like, little baby or, like,
or, like, I'm out here in L.A. just chilling.
I listen, like, dirt, all of them.
But, like, when I'm in, like, camp mode, I'm listening to, like, oh, shit, like, DMAX,
JZ, uh, fucking, who else I'll be listening to?
Um, shit like that, like, I listen to, like, some Lil Wayne, like, shit like that, like.
The old shit.
Yeah, like, the old shit.
Damn.
50 cents.
A lot of 50, a lot of 50, a lot of, I fuck with 50, a lot.
You saw Dirk just said he was, he's, he's blackballed.
Then he said he's not blackball when everyone disagreed with him.
He said, he said they can't, he said, he said they can't blackball the goat or something like that.
But, but right, but first he said he was blackballed.
And then you could tell everyone was like, what the fuck, not blackball.
Like, everyone fucks with you.
And then he put like, nah, just kidding, you can't blackball.
And he put like scar face.
I think he was just like trying to see what people are going to say.
Like, no, to be honest.
That's what it looked like.
Yeah.
Because I'd be like, I don't know.
He's obviously not Blackball.
And he's one of the most popular artists right now.
Yeah.
Dirk, baby.
Yeah.
No, I would say, yeah, Dirk.
I think he was just trolling.
Yeah, he probably was just bored.
You never trolled?
You ever trolled other boxers?
Hell, yeah.
I love trolling boxers.
But I haven't, I haven't really been trolling boxers like that.
Like, a lot of these boxers, they like sensitive.
They're sensitive.
Yeah.
Oh.
I said sensitive.
Sensitive.
Sensitive.
Sensitive.
Sensitive.
Yeah, they got feelings.
Yeah, they like Maddie.
emotional like these fighters they like they get mad because like if you call them out like
if you're like oh I want to fight this person they get all mad like the fuck you're a boxer
what's what it is this what you get into the sport to do the best supposed to be fighting the best
not like oh you like I call you out and and now you're mad or now it's like the fuck this
this is like we should be like that should be like a good thing that we both can go make
money together and like feed our families are fighting each other
They weren't, it's not like, you know, this is what we're in a sport to do.
So I used to troll a lot, but, like, I haven't really been troubling like that.
I've been just chilling.
Is it, so is it a, you think the reason why they get upset is like a risk they think
it's like you're not respecting them thing?
I don't know because I don't even respect them anyway.
Okay, let me take that back.
What did you say?
What did you say?
What did you say?
No, I do respect.
I respect anybody that gets in the ring.
100%.
Because, like, that's not, like, I know what it takes to get into the ring.
but I don't I I know that if I'm calling them out I'm better than them so I don't respect them in that
in that space I see what you're saying so like I respect him as fighters yes like I would never let
anybody talk down on a fighter that doesn't that doesn't box if you know if you a fighter all right
then then I would you can say whatever the fuck you want to say about a fighter because you
know what it takes to get in the ring but if you're not somebody that gets gets in the ring I'm
not going to let you disrespect a fighter or the sport of boxing but um I forget I was about to say
no you're good there was a there was a clip of you I don't know how old this clip was
talking about how Ryan like would call out all these boxers but then not box
none of them yeah you know that clip yeah um but now he kind of like him he put his
shit on the line no he did not he he uh he he definitely did uh but at a point
Ryan was definitely doing that he was just like calling out all these fighters like
oh I'm gonna fight pack yeah I'm gonna fight tank I'm gonna fight this person I'm gonna
fight devon I'm gonna fight that da da da and then fight none of them yeah but
Now, you know, he proved itself that he really wanted to fight the best fighters in the world.
And he did it at the biggest stage.
It made sense for him because when he did it, it may sense, like, numbers wise, money wise, you know, everything worked out.
He lost, but he made it.
He made out.
He made out.
He made out well.
So he lost what he won.
Boxing is so crazy.
That bag is so insane.
No, but like the bag is insane.
but it's for like it's a very low percentage of boxers to actually get to that back
yeah when when like say like you're playing basketball or your football you could be
mediocre in basketball football and still get what's like the minimum in the NFL like it's
like still like a couple million dollars or whatever yeah in boxing bro if you're
mediocre you're not getting shit like what not mediocre yeah mediocre like you're really not
going to make a lot of money if you're not you got to be that
elite and once you make it to the elite stage you're going to get money for a long time
because even after you lose or after you you you you aren't as good you can still be an
opponent for the elite guys so you just got to crack that that that that what do you say
like that little like fucking sweet spot where do you think that is that like what makes a
fighter I mean obviously not losing yeah do you think that's just it obviously I mean
it's many different things it could be like
you know just getting a world title or just having a name or whatever but but how do you have a name
in boxing if you're if you're losing you have to just not lose there's not kind of what it comes down
to you know you can you can you can you can make a name by just giving somebody a good fight like
say somebody gives me or gives me a good fight and say I win they gave me they put up a good
fight with me so now the world wants to see them yeah once they want to see them against
or see him against tank or see him against somebody else you know with it with a name you see
I'm saying to see how they do yeah so now they got another payday just off giving me a good
fight top five fighters right now top five fighters right now you can include yourself
obviously oh me of course me of course um Earl Spins Terrace Crawford um Tyson
Fury um Tank yeah yeah he said five right yeah yeah we'll see five right yeah yeah we'll see five
dude man i just that fight that i'm just reflecting on that fight tank just it's like he just
knew i'm not saying obviously that has to do with this mole or anything but like tank just seemed
so far ahead in that fight he seemed he was ready for everything like i said i didn't get a chance
to see the the beginning of the fight yeah i'm gonna watch it because it was almost watch after my
fight i'm gonna watch it like when i just got some downtime oh yeah i'm just so locked in studying
you didn't even worry about studying loma yeah um but yeah after my fight i want to i want to
I want to watch it and just see like really like dissect it um but I heard that Ryan was doing
kind of good I heard he was doing kind of good and tank caught him and then it was like from that
point on it was like yeah but the thing was just from a you know obviously not not you I can't
dissect if I like you could but I'm watching it and it's like the first two rounds you're like
oh shit Ryan could really do this yeah that's what they were saying and then it's like he just
overextended himself and the thing is tank wasn't even throwing it really
really any punches until he threw one punch and he hit him and he knocked him down pretty much that's
what it looked like it was like there was no punches it was kind of moving around and then he just
went down once and that was it and then the whole fight changed have you ever got hit with a punch
where you were like oh shit hell yeah yeah for sure i mean it's boxing you can't swim you can't swim
without getting wet you know it's where you're going to get hit um and who's giving you your best punch
um i found a dude named horaylan ars and
And what are you laughing for?
Because you started laughing.
You really want to laugh.
I just got a picture you getting smacking me.
No, he punched me.
He got me with a good shot.
Boom.
I was a little hurt for the first time in my career.
First hand laughs.
Damn.
And it just was experience.
It was something I had to experience.
I didn't think that it was possible for me to get hurt for anything like that.
And it happened.
And I recovered.
I was back.
And, yeah.
When you're sparring like
This is what I always really find interesting
Like when you're
As good as you are
Who are you boxing to get better when you're sparring?
Yeah
Because like what is you
Technically it's like you have to box other people that are
But it's
It doesn't mean like
Just because guys don't have a name or anything like that
They may not be like on the pedestal as you are
It doesn't mean that it's not good guys coming up
Of course
Like at one point
I was sparring guys
who had a bigger name than me
and I was given
I was giving them better
like giving them good work
but I just didn't have the name yet
you know what I'm saying
so like just because like a guy like
for instance you like somebody
could be go you can go play somebody
at 24 hour fitness and he might be super good
but they just they don't have the name
they don't have the platform
yeah they don't have the platform
so I spark good guys
that just they really just don't have a name
is there anyone like in your camp
that's like you personally like would say
this guy you like this guy like as far as like no i wouldn't i wouldn't really say to be
honest um there's no one that's giving you the work in camp no one no one like of course
i'm like that's what they're there for like sparring nobody wins and sparring everybody's to
go in there and just what around my camp is it's for everybody going there and help me and
help me prepare help me prepare for you know may 20th and to give me their best look
for loma in there and trying to really hard though yeah of course they all do they all want
to get a name and they all want to prove their self um and we like when guys go in there and and
you know push me and uh make me turn it up another notch and another notch so um do you ever fight bigger
guys all the time i honestly i have to fight bigger guys because they give me better work they
give me they give me the work that that i need would you spar me yeah you probably beat the
fuck out of me huh no i would work with you i would i would i would work with you that would be fun
man no you wouldn't want to do it i would do it 100% i see i see i see i see i
I see you wrestling somebody.
Yeah, well, we're not gonna wrestle.
No, no, no, I don't.
I'm just saying in general.
I see you wrestling.
I'm not a bunch of stupid shit.
A guy hit in the face a bunch.
No, we could move around.
I'd work with you.
You wouldn't just beat me the fuck up.
No, no, no, no.
I would, I'd work with you.
I feel like I'd be...
But like, people think, see, I'm happy that you know that, like,
you're way bigger to be, right?
Like, you should say you weigh 260?
And people think that, like, muscles, like,
mean something.
Muscles don't mean nothing.
Like...
Yeah, if I could jump on you, then maybe.
then maybe if i could hold you on the floor sure yes but in boxing note i know that's
but even but even even even in a street fight i would beat the fuck out of you in the street
no i would i would kill you bro yeah i would kill you i would kill you bro i love it no like
you think at your weight what's your way okay i was trying to get your weight so like my
around my walk around weight i would kill you what's your weight damn it i want his
fucking no no so so 150 around 150 no i would mall you at 150 no 100 percent no as
confident as you are okay so let me tell you something 150 you're talking about 150 pounds let me tell you
something okay you cannot take a punch though so like you're not used to getting hit so i've been
hit though no no no no no no but you've been hit by you but you've been hit by regular guys like
guys who don't even know how to punch uh no no i'm talking about a guy that can that can hit that can hit you
and really knows how to hit hit hit hit and somebody that can hit you again and again and again
the same way it will be hard by the time of you like
I know everybody thinks like oh he's gonna if you grab me yeah but you have to get to the
point where you have to grab me so you're gonna take fight so but you have to get to me though
yeah yeah so in the process of you getting to me you think you piece me up that fast i'm gonna hit
you so many times i'm gonna hit you so many times oh fuck no no no i'm gonna hit you so many times
that by the time that you do get to me i'm asleep no you may not even if you're not asleep
you might just be i'm just gonna you're not gonna want to fight anymore damn but i've been in street
fights though so so i i i know damn you really believe that yeah which i don't you know we
should wrestle no but you're gonna beat me in wrestling though no because no no exactly yeah
so you think you beat up an mma fighter now that that that i'm gonna lead him alone because i've done
i've done a little bit of moitai i've done a little bit of wrestling i've done a little bit of you know
No, but, but when it comes to these,
dude, I want to fucking, I wish I could figure out a way to make this happen.
I just, 150, there's no way.
No, you don't.
Oh, there's no way at 150.
No, you don't.
I'm athletic as fuck.
I'll jump on you.
No, I believe that.
I believe that.
But in that process, if you're getting to me, God damn it.
I'm going to hit you so hard that you're going to be discouraged.
Bodyguard, get out of you.
That you're going to be discouraged.
I think he'd fuck you up, Brad.
No, no.
Like,
I didn't beat up.
I didn't beat up.
At 150?
Bro,
is it to fuck you up?
I didn't,
I didn't,
I didn't fuck big dudes before.
Yeah.
I'm telling you.
It's not what you think.
Like,
like,
like,
I know like,
and even,
even me,
I didn't been in a street fight
with a bigger doing,
but I'd be like kind of even nervous.
Like,
oh shit,
this thing is big.
But once you see how they react,
once they're,
once they're hit,
when you're not used to getting hit,
it's different.
I'm not,
and you don't,
And you don't know how to punch neither.
Like, you're not saying that you're not strong.
Yeah, yeah.
Because you're, I'm, you're way stronger to me, bro.
You, you go on a bench press, bro.
I can't even do two plates, bro.
I can't, I cannot bench press two plates.
But I punch harder than you.
You think so.
I know so.
I know so.
I know so.
I believe that.
I believe the punch.
But, but, bro, you can lift me up and slam me all over, like you can ragd on me.
I don't doubt that.
But you don't know how to punch.
But you don't think I can get my hand.
on you? No, you probably could. But in that process, in that process, come on, come
that process. Think about it. Like, if it was no, there was no grappling, like this is straight
boxing. No, no, I'm talking about. No, no, no, no. We're not talking about. You can grapple. You
don't think I couldn't take your legs out. In that process, in that process. You don't think I think
how many times have you been hit? Like, bare knuckle. I've been hit a lot. You've been hit a lot.
Yeah. You think I couldn't get your legs? I look at those legs. I look at those legs.
You're tiny legs, no, I know, yep, tiny.
Yep, they are tiny.
They are tiny.
But in that process,
yeah, you're probably going to hit me once.
I'll be like, damn, that hurt.
You said once?
Yeah, once.
Then you probably get to hit me on like.
Why do you think one time?
You can hit me on the shoulder one time because my shoulder will be up.
I hit the Mayweather on you.
You know what I'm saying?
Come on,
bro.
I'm going to break through all that shit.
I love this shit.
But that's, it's the simple weight thing that fucks me up.
It's the weight.
You just like, you would have to knock me out to beat me before I can get my
hands on you that's it I know that if I have my hands on you I'm all the mindset that
he has so so so so I'm all in you so have you been knocked out before yes I've been kicked in
the head I want to I would fucking all that takes is one yeah dude I fuck I fuck with you I
fuck with you so hard all it takes is one I would ever you're right you're right
no I know you're so right you could just and I'm asleep I know that I know that be so
funny but you I'm I'm I know I know you can
punch hard though i'm sure you can punch hard you got muscles not even just muscle but muscles don't
win fights though i even just my bro we're gonna we're gonna if muscles win fights bro no i know they don't
no you're right so let's talk about that i know that that is not i can't go in there and muscle shit
i'm not gonna i know that first of all i just want to how much do you bench like oh you i see like bro
like you're your your your uh man i could jump super high i'm like i'm not just like a fucking
dumb ass gym bro but yes no no no no no but like i understand that you probably can't jump
you probably can squat but you cannot fight like not meaning like not not smash your face on the
ground like i would like just just like i'm saying really fight though if you're on the floor i would
crush your skull on the floor you're talking about your little homies like you know y'all y'all no no you
you dude like your face would be non-existent bro i would fuck you up bro like imagine the floor
it would be bad it would be bad no the last thing you would see is like your like the floor
you'd be like dude what's happening i'm a boxer they would say it's not fair they would say they would say
come in bro they would say what they would say they would say it's not fair i'm gonna say from i'm 150
i love this this is funny to me this now but we uh one day one day we we get in the ring i'm really down
i'm really down i'm really down i'm so down i know obviously if i'm more defense defense with you
and shit like that yeah don't be shocked though if i come and you'll be like whoa no no i believe
i believe that you can punch hard though i don't doubt that the muscles they i mean they count for something
yeah but just not not much when it comes with me but you know i i love it i fucking dude it's so good
all the shit talk man the shit talking boxing is is is is fucking hilarious to me yeah no but you know
like what's good about boxing is that like we we can talk shit and do all that say and go in there
punch each other in the face and then you know shake hands after yeah i mean fighting in general
it's honestly like it's a gentleman sport really the most fucking i'm i'm i'm not i'm not i'm
I mean, it's not surprising why there's so much money involved in it.
It's like just the thing that people have just been enamored by forever.
People just fucking going in there and like essentially killing each other, right?
Obviously, you're not trying to kill somebody.
We beat on each other for other people's entertainment.
So wild, man.
I love the sport.
I love to do it.
Could you see yourself ever, like would you have done football?
Like, because you said you play football?
I'm too small, bro.
I'm too small.
Exactly.
That's my point.
You got it.
You're too small.
You see?
But I can't punch in football.
that's the thing
fuck okay
it's true
you know like
bro they fucking
a nigga 260 your size
come just run me over
I can't do nothing about it
exactly
that's what I was talking about
exactly I cannot punch you
and then put a helmet on
that's the only thing
I almost had you
these are the neutralizer
that's that's it
that's what I'm saying
listen
it's in football
you run me over
listen rassel
you can wrestle me
ragged on me
but when it comes to these
you don't have these
damn dude
You got to fight an MMA fighter.
No, bro.
No?
Did you ever fight Connor?
What?
Connor in a boxing ring?
Yeah.
Of course.
Easy.
Yeah.
You think you'd piece him up?
Bro.
I'm just asking it.
I don't know.
I'm just got to ask a question now.
I like Connor, but, you know, he's an MMA fighter.
That's what he does.
You know, it's different.
Yeah.
It's levels for it in a boxing ring.
Would you take that fight, though, right now?
After you beat Lomachenko, obviously.
You can't.
Man, I'm fighting the best fighters in.
the world. So, you know, it's really no point into me in me going and go fight a
MMA fighter. You know, no, I, you know, I respect him. I like what he's doing in the sport of
MMA. But, you know, it's just, I'm fighting best fighters in the world, like for legacy
and, you know, to prove myself. So really, I really wouldn't gain much fighting an MMA fighter.
So obviously, like, you know, this, this legacy, I get it. I understand how important it is in
boxing. Like, as you move through your career and let's say you continue.
you to fucking zero losses would you start to do somebody like you know mayweather come out
do these expedition exposition matches and all this kind of stuff and fighting
car i mean that's a new thing to do that that that's a new wave you know um but i don't get it
though's like but mayweather's fighting some who who's he fighting like soon and it's like to be
honest and he's like it's not a real fight though yeah i don't i don't know like i said i'm into
like doing like i'm young i'm 24 so i'm into like legacy fights and shit like that
like it's really like proving myself and fighting at the highest level in the sport of boxing so you're not
thinking about any of that shit it's really no point in me even going to go like maybe when i'm older
or something like that but it's really no point to even be going that route right now because
i'm at you know the highest level in boxing you know i'm making tons of money fighting the
best fighters in the world why why go backwards and go do a exhibition match yeah i get you for
nothing that makes sense i guess at some point in the career could make sense but right now this
doesn't yeah um
Anything else you do for fun besides boxing?
I like to shop.
I like to buy cars.
I like to buy.
How many cars you got?
I got a few.
Okay.
I like that answer.
Yeah, I got a few.
I like that.
A little roster?
Yeah, I'm a car guy.
I like shopping, like clothes.
I like traveling.
I like beautiful women.
Yeah, I mean, that's great.
I like to, you know, chill with it.
And just enjoy life.
You know, enjoy the fruits of my late.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm blessed to be in this position. I humbly la. Thank God for it. And,
man, I just can't wait till May 20th to just, you know, showcase, you know, all my skills and
then get back to living life. This is the life. I love it. So is it, so, you know, they always
talk about like, um, if I could ask you this question. I mean, yeah, fuck it. Um, you know,
they talk about like not masturbating before like a fight or anything like that or having sex.
Do you ever practice that where you're like, nah, not doing this before you get
into a fight. Yeah, I don't, I don't masturbate in general. Oh, me neither. Let's go. Ever?
Yeah, no, I don't masturbate. I mean, I have before. Yeah. How long has it been? It's been a little more
than year for me. No, I don't, I don't need to masturbate because, you know, I could, you know?
Yeah, yeah, fair. I could, I could handle it somewhere else. I don't need to go masturbate or go.
How long has it been since you stopped, though? I'm a Muslim. We're not even supposed to even
watch porn. Like, we're not watching porn either. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, like, but like,
but like that's good yeah um but i feel like that fucks you're like like like when i was young
i used to watch i used to watch porn and then like you know like it like fucks your mind up like
like you can't even like even give a girl that her complete pleasure if you're sitting at watching
like people have fake have sex stuff like that and you just feel like creep after that
it's weird like now that i've stopped that it's funny because i don't try to talk about
she must have just stopped or something what's that you must have just i stopped it's been about
More than a year. It's been about a year. But like looking back on it now, like I when I was in it, I wasn't thinking. I was thinking like this is normal. Everyone does it. This is everyone talks about this is super normal. And then looking back on it now, I was like, what the fuck was I doing? Like basically climaxing to other people on a thing having sex. Yeah, you feel like a creep, bro. It was weird. It was weird. Now that I haven't done it, it maybe about a month or two went by. And I was like, oh, I don't even want to do this at all. Like I had no desire for it. I feel more level headed, more clear. Like,
Not that, like, you know, that short, dope mean release.
And you give a girl her the complete pleasure.
Like, you really, like, you know, you get on for a girl rather than, you know, watching fake shit.
Like, porn is not even, like, a lot of porn is not even real.
Fake as fuck.
Yeah, it's not even real.
So you'd be living in a fantasy thinking that sex is supposed to be like this or whatever.
And it's not like that.
It's like you thinking about beating me on a street fight.
It's like a fantasy.
It's dope, though.
It's sick.
The buddy did you just compare that to watching porn.
Yeah.
It's sick.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a talent of mine.
But yeah, so sex-wise, I do like three weeks, four weeks before a fight.
Nothing.
I used to do eight weeks.
A lot of my fights, like, majority of my fights, I used to do eight weeks, no sex, no, nothing, right?
And it got to the point to where I would, like, it would get close to my fights, and then I would, like, have, like, a wet dream or something like that, right?
Holy shit.
Yeah.
realized I talked to somebody about it like somebody like he's like a doctor and he was like
like when the when your body like throws up with like too much testosterone it like finds a way
to like release yeah so around that time I was like my shit was just releasing like right
before my fights like one day I had it like day before my fight um one day I one day I had it the
day of the fight where you like a wet dream oh okay yeah so um it got to where like I
know like the sweet spot of like how how how far to do it yeah and when yeah but i used to be like
sick about that shit like bro eight weeks like i wouldn't even be around who got you into that at
first bro that's like an old roll-up boxing like yeah like just an old thing like oh you need to do
eight weeks no sex no nothing da da da and then like i i've i've done it and it has been successful
when i've had good results from it but then it got to the point to where i don't know just as
I got older, my body just couldn't hold on to it or something.
Yes.
But you believe that that is helpful.
Yeah.
Not necessarily so helpful with just performance.
I just think like just mental, like just mentally just not even like.
Also like not.
When it starts getting closer to the fight, I don't even care about sex.
I don't care about like females.
I don't care about.
Yeah.
I mean, that sort of clarity.
You just like lock all the way in.
So yeah.
Damn.
That's so crazy.
But some people, some people, it's boxes at the top.
of the game that have sex the day before their fights like every fight so it just it's just
everybody to each his own everybody got to find what just works for them yeah okay so um
may 20th obviously you're gonna win everyone should bet on you if they're betting people
you're not condoning that yeah exactly um me me and you are gonna have to uh spar okay or fuck
You're going to teach me some stuff.
I'm not going to spar you.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
See,
I like that better.
Yeah.
Like, like, like, what's crazy my friend, right?
He was like recently, like, not recently.
Like, maybe like a year ago.
He was like, bro, I just want to spar you, bro.
Like, I think I could do at least two rounds with you.
Like, he was doing a little bit of training, right?
And I said, I said, honestly, bro, I don't want to spar you because after that, our friendship would never be the same after.
So, so me and you, like, you know, we just starting off our friendship and everything like that.
Let's just, you know, start it off.
the right way yeah and not even you know put a straight in our relationship yes because you know what's
crazy i was nobody even know this story i was i was i had a like a big deal like a big deal right
set up right so one of the like the deal with what a company a company like a company yeah was it was a
shoe deal okay a big brand right and can you say the brand or yeah i say it so rebock okay yeah
yeah i was i was i was i was doing a big deal with them and one of like the i don't know
what position he was but he was like one of the head guys there he really wanted to
spar with i think i got you yeah he like he really wanted to spar with me oh my god and um so he came
to Vegas he brought me like a bunch of like Reebok like custom box shoes and everything
wait a second is this i feel like i know where this is going yeah so so he came right and we sparred
so i was like no no but he was talking so much shit like for like bro he was talking shit for like
months but now that I look back at it I was like I was younger so I was like a little bit like
immature whatever so we sparred and the first punch I threw I broke his nose boom like
like bro his nose was crooked it was bad like blood everywhere he like he had to fly back on
the airplane like it was it was it was bad it was like really bad bro it fucked up my deal
that's what I was going to say that's I knew what it's going it fuck my deal up bro I never got my deal
it just it just it just went bad bro dude the do stop answering the phone it just went no way it just
went bad he broke his nose lost the deal yeah so that's fucking hilarious man like it was bad bro
like it was bad but just looking back at it he was talking shit but he was talking shit like
jokingly i'm thinking he was serious like so it was just it was bad it was bad damn have you ever
have you ever had like what other big deals do you have um right now i i just signed a deal with
C4.
Okay.
Yeah, C4.
So we got some big things ahead.
Like the energy drink or the, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, the C4 energy drink.
Yeah.
So I got a big campaign coming up with them.
And that's it right now.
Would you ever move to L.A.?
Well, you know, I have a place here in L.A.
Would you ever stay, like, live, live in L.A.?
Or you like Vegas that much?
No, no.
I mean, Vegas is good for training.
But most of the time, most of the time I'm here anyway.
Oh, okay.
I love L.A.
yeah right on right why you said why you why you're curious just curious you know because this
lifestyle is just like obviously i get why you're probably when you're in camp you're probably
mostly just out in Vegas focus on that because there's just so much shit out here like there's a
lot more draw of like maybe the women and this kind of shit that can pull you no but like L L.A.
give me like a different type of motivation like L.A's just like like I don't know it's just so much
like fly shit here so much just motivation here in Vegas like it's it's nice but L.A. just gives
that different type because the kind of people like people doing things yeah people doing things you
know you just see like i live in beverly hills so you see the biggest of the biggest of the biggest
houses and shit like that so um it just gave me that different type of motivation so i'm happy
that i came during camp here um because it just it gives me that extra push that i needed so when
i go back to Vegas i'm just be locked in even more yeah yeah i'm from san francisco by the way
So I let's throw that in there.
Oh, wow.
Okay, you're from the city.
Okay, that's fire.
I didn't know it.
I thought you were from L.A.
No, no.
I lived here for like 12 years, 13 years now.
Okay.
Long time.
What high school did you go to in Oakland?
I did, uh, you know, it's crazy.
I never been to high school.
I did, um, online school.
You didn't go to high school?
I never been to high school, yeah.
I guess that makes sense.
Yeah, because I was so locked in in the box.
You really dedicated that shit.
I mean, obviously, everyone knows you're dedicated now,
but like, then you were, like, boxing.
Yeah.
Whole life.
Fuck.
I just find that crazy.
You were boxing, what, Ryan when you guys were like, how old?
Our first fight we were like eight, nine years old.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
You guys are three and three.
Three and three.
God, I want to see that fight, man.
You want to.
I want to see you fight him.
Obviously.
And I want to see you fight tank, too.
Obviously.
I know we're, and Lomenchango made, May 20th.
I'm not fucking you up, I promise.
I know that.
May 20th.
Everyone go fucking watch that, by the way.
Yeah, too.
see those fights man no you will you will god willing yeah um victorious may 20th and then uh
those will be huge those are going to be crazy fuck but it all starts with me 20th with me being
victorious yes yeah and then um we'll go from there yeah thank you for coming man i really appreciate
your time if you ever need anything for me besides an ass whipping that i can't give you um i'm
serious about coming to for you to teach me yeah maybe we'll maybe we'll no bro i'm telling you i
I just told you a Reebok story for a reason.
That's a foreshadowing.
Yeah.
I don't want to do that.
Okay, fair.
But I appreciate you coming for real, man.
For sure.
And May 20th,
I'm watching 100%.
I'm betting 10k and you.
So there's not pressure,
but like 10K.
They don't do me wrong.
For sure.
Please.
Double up.
Oh,
you won't double up because of odds,
but you'll be half of it back.
I really believe in you.
I really, you get like,
you get $5,000 back.
That's fine.
Yeah.
I really believe in you, though.
You know why?
because you fully believe that you can beat the fuck out of the street fight dude i love it
150 though how much you weigh how much 270 see that guy i'm like there's a little
that's an issue with that guy what i have an issue with that guy with you it's like you're
you're a doll listen don't get me so yeah sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry
i'll fuck with you let's take a picture though yeah that was dope man