RAWTALK - DTREN & BRADLEY MARTYN TALK THE FITNESS INDUSTRY, JOINING RAWGEAR & CHILDHOOD

Episode Date: June 21, 2022

Come hit a couple sets with us and our pivotal & growing guest DTREN! As we hit reps and PR’S on many things, we also speak on moving topics that got him in this industry. Role models, becoming a Rawgear athlete, steroids, and his childhood. Get ready to hit a super set & join this conversation

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We have the, I would say infamous, a little infamous on TikTok. D-Trent. Yeah. Dawson. Where did the name D-Trent come from? We got to dissect that first. All right, so before there was D-Tren, I was called D-Tron. Okay?

D-Tron. When I was 16, I used to hang out with these guys. They weren't the best influence. I was there in a certain area all the time, and they somehow gave me that name. I don't know why, but I used to smoke a lot of weed when I was younger. Solid. And maybe I acted a little bit, maybe robotic on the tie. I don't know, but they gave me, or maybe because I was really tall and lengthy.

I don't know. but they gave me that name and over time I started using it like I stopped using it I always thought was kind of dumb detron yeah I was like that's kind of dumb and then when I was like 19 or 20 I was on the Reddit and I was like a Reddit poster I basically shit post a lot and I was like all right what am I going to call myself oh detron that's a cool name it sounds badass and then people knew me as that before I actually had a bit of Reddit I had like a bit of internet fame before i actually blew up but it was on reddit so just as like a someone who was posting content i wasn't posting content it was like what i we talked about the forum days just you're so

you were popular as a forum like yeah content creator yeah i was i was a troll a little bit but i also posted my physique and i would talk about the cycles that i was running on what i was reddit yeah okay because it was uh it was a steroid reddit okay and we would all just mess you know how it is with guys like that it's like a man space whatever whatever and you know that's what I was known as and eventually if you know I got into the whole trend taking trend yeah when I was 20 I hopped on I hopped on here at 19 but start at 20 and you know people are just like you should just call yourself de trend is there anything you regret about getting on at 19 no no not one single thing what have you learned um that you didn't know when you

hopped on what have you learned to this point today um sometimes less is more yeah you know like less is better sometimes yeah and uh you just you just got to figure out what works for you man yeah you know like you could people could tell you stuff like hey don't do this don't do that i was someone that was always like i don't give a fuck i'm gonna do whatever i want yeah and people hated me for it they're like you're stupid and i'm like okay hey did you just because like you were just like the fuck it mentality because they thought you were doing something bad yeah yeah because they probably thought like you know I'm young I'm stupid I was disrespectful maybe arrogant I didn't really care I was like or you could tell me whatever you want I'm never going to listen to you

I was just more like hardheaded yeah you know and so that's just what happened but I'd say what I learned from that is this man like it's just trial and error yeah you know you never know know you're going to respond yeah but I don't have any regrets in terms of that I would just say, if I could go back in time and do it over again, I probably would do it all the same. Make maybe slight adjustments. Yeah. Just sometimes less is more.

You know, you don't always got to run a lot of stuff. Just figure out what works for you. And if you feel good, then you'll make progress. How often do you get your blood work done? Because I think this is an important thing to bring up just in this conversation because some kids are going to watch this. Yeah. And before we get any further, I think it's really important to say that before you ever consider

anything like that or if you're doing it now, number one, first and foremost, get your blood work done. where you're at um so recently i've been getting done you know more often yeah but um there was a time frame i went probably like a year and a half i just did not care like i were you were you afraid of knowing or you just didn't give a fuck i didn't care i was like all right it's probably not going to come back good but i was like it's not going to stop me so so you had the mentality that even you knew that it would come back if it came back bad you didn't stop yeah yeah exactly so i was like why am i going to waste my money and i didn't

have a lot of money back then so you want to be financially stable I was not yeah I just whatever money I had I put towards it my goals which was being in the gym and advancing my physique yeah so that was like my main focus but that stuff I mean I you should always get blood work and you should always be financially stable but now I do it a lot more often compared to what I used to yeah um when did you see yourself making content when were you like okay I'm going to do this like how did you know you want to start making content? I say I wanted to start. I wouldn't say I ever really started wanting to make content.

Like, it just, there's never a day, but I knew around when I was like 18 before I even touched anything that I wanted to be like a fitness influence or originally a bodybuilder. Yeah. Like I wanted to be a hardcore bodybuilder. What inspired you? Who inspired you? Arnold. Fuck yeah. Arnold.

That's the number one, baby. Yeah. That's the number one. Yeah. Arnold inspired me. I read his book, like his total recall book. I read it everything. I tried to learn how what he did in his younger years and like I wanted to replicate that as much as possible.

What about bodybuilding did you find so attractive? Like in your younger self, when you're younger and you're like, man, I want to be like this. What about that made you want to do it? I think the whole idea of like, you know, like masculinity. Yeah. Being a stronger, bigger man, you know, that's all, you know, most men find that attractive some way, shape, and form. Yeah. They want to replicate that.

But also like, you know, because I would watch pumping iron and they had like a, brotherhood going on like there was respect like people respected them you know and I I said growing up I lacked that like I lacked that you know uh masculinity like I lacked that respect for myself but you know from other people so like the camaraderie in it yeah I liked that I wanted that I wanted to replicate that like and my best friend at the time me and I went to the gym for like five six days a week three to four hours for like seven months straight yeah like every day and that's what I fell in love with body when I started watching pumping iron and even I was natural I was like dude this is what I want to do you know it's funny

dude when you said that it was so it was so interesting to me because obviously I've been doing the workout shit bodybuilding stuff working out for so many years and I think you see me on the internet but right when you said uh why you really wanted to do it was because of the camaraderie of it I'm looking back now on myself um when I was 17 when I really started getting into training I was like okay I need to I need to bench, need to deadlift. And I had a training partner. His name was Chad.

It was just at a basic like 24-hour fitness. Funny training partner named Chad. But shout out, Chad Nahigan was his name. And anyways, he was older. He was like 34. And I realized that was the reason why I loved training so much at that time was because I lacked the same thing, which was wanting like to feel like I had a place where, you know, I was accepted or there was a group or people were like, yo, this is like, we're

doing this together because I lacked that father figure in my life just. of like since I was a kid, right? So I didn't have that figure. So when I found that in the gym and when I found that in sports or in like, you know, parents of friends, I always realized like I would gravitate towards that. So it was interesting you said it

because I never really looked at in that lens but that's definitely the thing that got me started in loving the space like being in the gym and seeing those successes because like I remember the first time I hit like, I don't know, do 225 and then having everyone be like excited about it. I think it's the best part of the gym

Like genuinely speaking, man Without a doubt And we would My training partner His name's Alex Yeah Probably gonna be watching this But he lives

Where I live in Oakdale We grew up New each other Since like first grade So we grew up Pretty much our whole lives together And At the time he was bigger than me

And I was always kind of like The more bigger one More competitive And he was bigger than me I can't let him I can't let this happen Are you kidding me Like I'm 160 pounds

Like I need to put on some mass here Yeah And so he just train and every other week would be hitting PRs, deadlift, squat, bench press. Like we did, like a leg day was deadlift and squats like we do at the same time, just very old school. Yeah, a little private gym, like three people in there at the most, just barbells, dumbbells, it's it. It's old school style training and we do it every day. I have a question. You said earlier though, you lacked the, you lacked like the camaraderie or like that in your life in general. Why does you lack that? How did you

like that. I don't know. I would say it's kind of hard to say. I've just always been like that. I grew up around all girls. I have three sisters. Okay. And my dad, when I was really younger, he, he went to jail for a while. Yeah. So I was about five or six. And a lot of times I was just, you know, my dad's a great dad. Don't get me wrong. Right. I just growing up, I didn't feel, you know, like I had that either, you know. I didn't really have that idea of, you know, I didn't really have that idea of what it means to be a man you know and I always wanted that and when I seen you know like how they were in pumping iron like how confident Arnold was and how people respected him and he'd shake their hand and they just you know it was like all respect there mutual respect I wanted

that in my life yeah I was tired because I grew up I didn't really have a lot of friends growing up I was hard for me to make friends you know yeah and I was a hyper kid growing up but then like once I started going through puberty it was like I got really anxious like like really like awkward I couldn't like look people in the eyes I don't know why but that's just what happened I was really shy like I would not talk and my sister older sister she's 37 it's a big girl she's like six feet you know she'd always be like why don't you like why don't you talk why don't you ever give me a a correct answer why are you always saying maybe like weren't you ever sure yourself and I seen how like extroverted and you know how much courage she had as a woman and

like I wanted that like I would be like man I wish I was I was more straightforward like I wish I was like her everyone loves her she has all these friends and I looked up to her and I was just a shy little kid yeah and I felt like that for such a long time but when I seen that I was like man like you know if I could develop this strength in the gym and actually have a drive and passion then I could develop that confidence that I lacked yeah deep inside you know it's interesting man because I mean years later obviously from that the first time I met you you the thing that you said like you wanted to figure out or you wanted to have for yourself you gave to me when I met you like when I first met you you gave me nothing but respect

nothing but love like and I was one of the coolest things because obviously at the time it was a little circumstances were a little different yeah and I just want to tell you like I think it's a beautiful thing because the thing that you were searching for from your childhood up like you're now embodying that you know what I'm saying and I think you're helping other people see the same thing of course I think obviously that comes with like the joking stuff talking about the trend all the stuff that like you know could be not necessarily done differently because it's like you would never take back and I agree I would never take it back but it always comes with other shit alongside of it but course from your perspective uh talk about this

the industry in general um what do you think about the social media industry as far as fitness goes currently I don't feel like it's in a good place at all yeah and um it's funny when you say like the stuff I've talked about when I started talking about it I had no plans of becoming an influencer yeah I didn't think it was going to happen I came onto the you know TikTok the app and I was like I'm going to say what I want to say and people are either going to like it or not but solely over time people actually started looking up to me and it changed my thought process to be okay I don't really care to wow I actually want to be more positive but in terms of the fitness industry right now I think it's in a really weird place because I got motivated like you said Arnold

you know I love Arnold callum I remember when you guys used to make videos I used to watch your videos too yeah we still crazy like that 2006 15 to 2017 18 like time frame and everyone everyone looks so much happier everyone got you know together a lot more yeah it was like just in the gym lifting weights and having a good time and I feel like now it's not really like that it's just more materialism than anything and I I'm not like that I'm not a materialistic person yeah I'm a I want to get in the gym and get a filthy pump and then you know whatever why do you think it got that way though I think because it's easier it's much easier like to to like to flex things it's easier to if we talk about it's easier to talk shit about someone than to like build someone up right

exactly yeah like there those are all the easier lower hanging fruit it's much easier to be like okay I can do this or I can do that to get some sort of interaction from a fan base or an audience versus like putting in the time and effort and energy towards the positive because the truth is the positive shit always gets less attention just how it is on the internet in general yeah I 100% agree it's like people now they're uh I don't know if it's their um you know their attention span but people just want everything now they want it now they want the next big thing you know and it's like sure drama is interesting people like hearing it but it doesn't last no there's nothing else behind it like there's nothing you can learn from it or gain from it all it is

is a little laugh some joke some tension and then okay let's get back to doing what you know we i guess we do with our lives it's like what did you learn from that would you gain from that nothing you're you're motivated no you're now more motivated to hate on someone just because someone else decided to hate on someone which means you're just more likely just being a follower and i'm not like that i'm not a follower i think for myself so when i see that i'm like well hmm i noticed a trend here going on you know as a trend of everyone following this and that that's not a good sign if it's negative that means that people aren't thinking for themselves they're not being genuine yeah they're kissing us and i hate that yeah you know that's when i met you and you said oh you

gave me that respect you did the same with me yeah that's why i was so happy and i was you know so happy to talk about you so you're such a great guy people were like you're you're you're a dick writer it's funny you're a dick writer you're kissing his ass you're he's giving you a lot of money isn't he and i'm like you guys are you guys have no fucking clue yeah you know it's like it's really like it's superficial yeah i mean it is it's it's it is that it's just straight up like i think the biggest problem on the internet in general is like people see you know certain acts or they'll see like what someone says but not really understand like there's a lot more to the picture than just what's on the front end and a lot of people will manipulate situations like for their best interest

just to get something from their quote unquote fan or their follower and I think that the the problem with it is that like you can number one enrich someone's life so much more through instead of like hating on someone else and what someone else is doing, through like just giving good. We talk about good content, like motivation, like giving someone like an actual good workout routine or talking about something in your life,

your childhood, your upbringing that like shaped you to the person you are today like we're doing right now. And like it's a, again, it's a much higher hanging fruit because not everyone's ready to have that conversation. But I think long term, if you go after that sort of stuff, and I think I'm a picture of that and I know a lot of other successful creators who have made it more about,

out like how they got to where they're at and the things that they learned and how they learned and what they went through and how they figured out how to get there. There's so much more value in that kind of stuff and then and not even a sense of just dealing with drama, but also like you're training all the other stuff. We're talking on the front end. But there's more value there. It's just it's a harder, it's a harder reach. So I think people avoid it because it's not as easy and people like the fucking easy route. Yeah, it's more effort. You actually got to you actually got to motivate yourself first and maybe not a lot of these people are motivated themselves. So they're like, well, what can I do to get a little boost for my numbers, you know?

What do you think makes you different, though? Because I noticed that about you right away, like what you're saying about like, you know, not being a follower and not focusing on just trying to make money. Because I could tell it after speaking to you and I've had, I had like a fucking, I must have had like an hour long conversation once. I think it was sitting in fucking Steve's Tesla in Miami. And, uh, you care a lot more about, It seems your audience. You care more about what you're doing and what you're kind of leaving behind.

Where do you think that comes from? I think I'm just very grateful because I'd never had that growing up. You know, I never had a group. I never had a lot of friends. Yeah. So that's probably why I was more of an outcast. You know, so I was an outcast.

I did a lot of watching people. I didn't do a lot of talking. People didn't really follow me. They didn't do what I did. that they followed other people and whatever so i i led me to all right i got to think for myself now because no one i'm not really cool with anyone like that yeah so i had to like all right i got a mature a bit quicker than most people you know you you have to you get forced to yeah you don't have a choice not you're you're done you know i mean so i did that and i don't know i just i'm really

appreciative. I've hit rock bottom many times. You know, there was many times I didn't know what I was going to do in my life. Like I had no goals and ambitions. Like I was just roaming and just doing bad things that, you know, kids do that doesn't get them anywhere. So I've been down both, you know, paths, you know. And once I started seeing that, like at first I was very angry when I came on the social media. I was angry. I was arrogant. And I had this idea that I'm better than you. Because I I had that growing up my entire life because, you know, being an outcast, being rejected, what are you going to do if you're rejected so many times? You're going to start finding defense mechanisms like, okay, I don't give a fuck, I'm better

than these people anyway. Screw them. The hell with it all. And I had that mind frame for so long, and I think a lot of people related to it, like, wow, man, this fucking D-Train guy, he doesn't care about anything. Like, he doesn't care what people say. Like, I admire that. I wish I was like that.

Yeah. you know and the fact that once people started showing me support which i've never really had in my life it was always the opposite people always wanted to tear me down for some reason you know and i always had a lot of potential as a kid for many great things but i always got torn down and i let it get to me and once i seen that it's like i felt so grateful for it like man this is what i always wanted yeah i always wanted to be accepted yeah what do you want to do with it now now that you're accepted more people are are into your shit i want i just want to keep expanding it Yeah. You know, like I, I talk to my fans, my followers, every single day. Yeah. I let them know pretty much everything important that goes on in my life or just daily things that aren't that important. I talk to them like, you know, just friends. Yeah. It's not even like, oh, buy this, by that. No, I talk to them like, hey, what's going on guys? Like, I know their names individually, a lot of them. And they know me. I've sat down and talked to them for an hour and a half for no reason. And, you know, just to do it. And so I love interacting with people. I love interacting with people that, you know,

I appreciate me. Yeah. So it's like I try to give back and return as much as I can. Because without them, I wouldn't have this life that I have right now. I'd be doing the same shit I was doing two years ago. Would you, so, so as a creator, I mean, this is like new era shit too, like especially in the fitness industry. Would you encourage other kids to do the same things that you're doing or in the way that

you've done them? Like how would you tell someone who's listening right now how to create their like lane on social media. I wouldn't say do what I did because what I did wasn't rooted in positivity at first, like good intentions. But I would say, you know, do as I say, not as I do.

So be original, you know, make your own content. You can have idols and inspirations, but, you know, do your own thing. Yeah. You know, and think for yourself. But it's so easy nowadays to just copy everyone else. It is. It's like think for yourself and don't be a follower.

That's like the last thing you want to be. And once you're not a follower and people see that and you have this ability to, you know, think for yourself and outside the box. So not just be, you know, close minded. A lot of people are. And that really like messes things up with them in the long run because they're closed minded. They can't think outside themselves.

Yeah. You can do that and think for yourself. you could achieve anything you want in life you said something that was interesting thinking outside yourself yeah how did you learn that though how did you learn how to do that and what does that mean to you like how do you practice that thinking outside of yourself i think how i learned that over time is because i was the i was the total opposite for such a long time yeah i was someone that could not think outside themselves at all you know what i mean like i was so wrapped in my own world, my own experience is that I couldn't really communicate with others

at well. And so after you make enough mistakes in life, you either learn from them or don't. So I made a lot of mistakes. And I eventually paid attention to how my actions affected other people. So I stopped looking so much into myself and started looking into others, okay? Like relating with them and actually, you know, getting to know them or seeing, you know, what makes people happy. So I think just the fact that I was so far on this end for so long,

um, eventually I snapped out of it when I hit rock bottom. Like I was just sitting in my room one day and I was like, I didn't know. When was this? What age was this rock? It was like I was 17. Okay. I went through a lot and I was just sitting there and I had no one to talk to.

Absolutely no one. And I was like, man, like, were you in the gym at this time though? Like were you training? A little bit, not really. Okay. Not consistently. Yeah. This is around the time I started, though.

Okay. And I just wanted to change with myself. You know, I wanted to change everything about myself, so I started learning. You know, I had to learn how to talk to people before actually being good at talking with people. Of course. So I'd look up like, okay, what are good ways to, you know, talk to people? I had to actually research it. And people said, oh, it's good, you know, to actually look people in the eyes when you're talking to them.

Really? Yeah, and not look off to the side or have your head down or have your hands in your pockets because, you know, people aren't going to, they're not going to be as comfortable or want to approach you. Yeah. You'd be less approachable. And I think that was my issue is I was always so in myself that I was not very approachable. So I learned, okay, if I could look someone in the eye and actually listen to them. Yeah. Because, you know, I'm someone that wants to be listened to.

Then, you know, you could just tell, you know, what makes people happy. it's interesting how it's always the thing it's the golden rule treat others how you want to be treated exactly yeah but it's just like people got it so fucked up nowadays it's like they'd rather just shit on someone before they like actually got to know them it's a fucking interesting yeah and it's like i always have this idea because i've made many mistakes you know i'm not a perfect person and i've been around people that have made mistakes and i was always growing up someone that i would talk to anyone yeah regardless if they were a bad person a good person a popular kid a loser whatever whatever people thought of them i always gave any if depending on how you treated

me i'd give you the time of day so if you gave me that respect i would give it back to you you know i would match your energy yeah and i look for that and people that would you know talk to me like how i want to be talked to i'd do the same exact thing yeah you know that's just how i've always been and i don't think most people are like that but yeah it is what it is i think that's a great thing And once you actually sit down and I always hated small talk because I was never good at it, I was like, man, I'm terrible at it. I suck at this. Yeah, once I could actually sit down, have a genuine conversation with someone and actually feel something, you know, relatable or real, like, I felt so good. I was like, man, like I feel so motivated.

Like, I feel finally connected with someone and related with someone. Like, that's a great feeling. I want to do that more. Yeah. So, but I would say the best thing that's helped with that is just listening. listening. And I've always been a good, I wasn't always the best listener, but after a while, I got really good at it because I was really shy. You know, I didn't talk a lot, so I would just listen. So that's what really helped. Just actually listening to what someone's saying, not what, okay,

what's the next thing I'm going to say after this. Right. Which a lot of people do. Well, those are the best types of conversations that you could even have with someone. And as far as communicating, being an efficient communicator, it is genuinely about listening. Because If I sat here and I was just trying to think of like, now, granted, we are doing the podcast, so I will think, okay, am I going to speak or I'm going to ask them a question something later on and like steer a conversation? Yeah. I have that in the back of my mind.

But if I'm not listening to you, right, then it's going to, we're going to, it's going to be like, oh, this isn't working. And at the same time for people listening to, that's the most effective way to learn, not just about another person, but about yourself, right? genuinely listen to someone because it'll it'll instead of having to answer next be like oh they said this this is what i think oh they said this this is what i think right you allow someone to speak fluently and trying to really understand where they're coming from you'd be surprised really how much you actually start to learn about yourself yeah i agree 100% in your life who are

some of the the greatest teachers that you've had obviously you had motivations you had at Arnold, who are some of the greatest teachers that you've had in your life? I didn't really have a whole lot, but I would say my uncle that I mentioned to you last time we talked. Yeah. Because he critiqued me and he was more of a father figure too to me when I was very young. He was he was someone that made a lot of mistakes and didn't live the best life, but could give people really great advice on what not to do or what they should do.

Sounds like me. So he made every wrong mistake you can make in life. And sometimes he knew it and he didn't care. He let his emotions get the best to him. But he could tell you the right thing to do based on morality. Yeah. Even if he didn't showcase the best, you know, morality, he could tell you, he would tell me, like, that's not right. Like, don't do that.

Or like, you need to be more confident. You need to, you know, walk with your back straight. Yeah. You know? Or, oh, that's a cute girl over there. Why don't you talk to her? Why don't you just get to know them? like when you're talking to people you want to you want to look at them or you want to you want to be nice yeah no so he

would always critique me and my main response would to get mad or get defensive but i just learned over time through his ups and downs and how he was as a person that you know that was a gift he gave me because i i he taught me how to be more of a man more of who i really wanted to be yeah because i was with him every day and he was at a very low point and i was still there with him like he was at a very very low point with drug addiction what drug if you don't mind me asking methamphetamine yeah drug induced schizophrenia that's the first and i was with him for two to three years at the end of his life yeah and he was the uncle that was the coolest guy ever you wanted to be him he was a cool uncle bike yeah he had a street bike you know karate moves he always dressed very nice

he could talk to anyone talk to any girl charm any girl doesn't matter yeah he was just the guy that you're like damn like why can i why can't i be like that why can't i act like that he's smooth you knew how to cook he knew how to he had knives you know to throw him around catch him you knew i'd do everything he just knew how to do things he just knew how to do things yeah you got to sing you had to do every dance this guy learned everything but he also made many mistakes because of his issues internally and maybe that's why he learned so many things because he was battling you know some issues he had yeah and you know i think me seeing him at his worst and like going through all that made me like more inclined to give people the benefit of the down yeah in respect

regardless if they're a bad person or if people don't like them or if people talking about them because everyone at the time was you know they weren't my family they weren't really happy with him. Yeah. But I was there with him every day. I got up. I walked to my house to his trailer. It was like a minute away from my house, walked over there. And even if it was broken down, I'd sit right next to him, talk to him, because he's the only person I could talk to. And he would actually listen to me. The only person in my life that would actually listen to me. And like, that's when I started, I learned that from him. Because we learn, you know, from people. We learn from it. And he was someone I learned so much from and is why I am the way I am today.

Did he know what direction you were going in and social media? Did he see that happening? Any of that? No, not he, he, uh, he actually said I should be a cop. I was like, uh, maybe I'll think about it. It's a great job. Yeah, but he was more like, you should be like a union worker or a cop because he worked in the union. Did he know that you were doing social media?

Like, I wasn't at the time. At the time, okay. I was just a bodybuilder, but he was. the first person I ever buy me a tub of protein when I was like 13 that's a real one before I even lifted weights I was 140 pounds I'm yeah what am I gonna do with this I tried it once like this is fucking terrible I'm never drinking this again I think I'm trying to remember the first time I ever had protein I was like 15 years old and it was a shitty strawberry G&C brand protein it was so bad it barely blended because they didn't have any like anything instantized or like all the stuff that they have in protein now to make it like blend well bro it was so bad it was so bad it barely blended because they didn't have any like anything instantized or like all the stuff that they have in protein now to make it like blend well bro bro bro it was so so ass. I remember drinking and being like, this is fucking garbage. But again, it's the same time I'm still just like doing fucking pushups and like benching fucking the barbell. Yeah. And he gave me that protein and I was like, whatever. But I think the bottom of line is, I believe every like young man should have a man in their life that they could like look up to. I agree. In terms of

like, you know, masculinity, like being a man. What does it mean to be a man? Yeah. It's, it's, and I'm glad you said this because today's society it's a very it's almost like not it's like it's a very weird time it's like it's not accepted to like teach that or show that it's like you got to be in between or dance all these lines and it's weird i don't know what's going on yeah i think because it's just kind of like something that's being lost over time you know yeah and he taught me that you know because it's what i always needed i needed someone to tell me when i was wrong or the right thing to do not always what I wanted to do

but the right thing to do Yeah, moral compass Yeah, and You know, he had it all Even if he made many mistakes He knew what it meant to, you know, to be a good man Yeah

When he wanted to be Yeah And I learned from that And I looked up to him my whole life Even when I was a little kid He'd give me like, you know It was punching, use those punching dolls

With the six pack Oh yeah Big ones Yeah, when I was like six years old And I'd be punching that He was like, fuck this thing up. Yeah, I'd be punching the hell out of that thing. And now kids, they just have little tablets.

Yeah. I was out there riding a bike. I'd see him on his street bike popping wheelies. I'm like, damn, I want to do that when I'm his age. It's a different time. People grow way different. I grew up like riding bikes, BMX, fucking making little dirt jumps and like fucking quarries and shit. And like, it's different.

Now everyone just got the internet and they just talk shit about other people. And it's like, I wanted to emulate him. It was strong too. He'd show me his biceps. his arms whatever he he'd show me like his six-pack he'd tell me how much he could lift all kinds of stuff and like that's like what i was like man he's so cool i felt so proud walking around with him yeah like i felt really proud the same with my dad i felt the same way too with my dad he'd do the same thing he'd show me his biceps and how tiny mine were compared to his and i'd like i want to look

is are you bigger than him now yeah yeah he uh he's uh he's not a bodybuilder he's he does uh body work on cars okay so he uh sand stuff down he you know paint so he always had naturally bigger forearms and arms just because of his work yeah because of his work so he's not like a he's not like a big time like no he's never been into that he's always been a more about his money and but he's so he's like like me in the sense how i feel about bodybuilding social media he's the same towards his work he's locked in yeah it's what brings him happiness yeah doing it since he was 17 he's never stopped and he went not having much to having his own business you know so he he joke around with me like my friends are around and my family look at Dawson's pretty big he's like I remember when I

was his age I did some juice and shit and I'm like what are you talking about he said it to you he said it to them while I was there he's like I was doing some juice and shit too you know he's like he's big but I'll still whoop his ass and arm wrestling that's what he'll tell me would he yeah yeah i beat him before and i had tendinitis for like three weeks oh he's he's he's just naturally strong he's got that old man strength yeah he's been doing it a long time yeah so he's like i will do an arm wrestle i'm like i'm not i remember the last time i did it i i was in pain for a month and a half fuck i let my ego get the best of me bro arm wrestling is like the easiest thing to injure yourself doing especially if you don't train arm wrestling yeah the easiest thing to get

you're doing he used to do that his entire life he'd go to a bar you know he'd be like hey what do you got in your pockets because he wasn't good at pool he's trying to get money yeah so he's like what do you got you got in your pockets or that watch dude he's an arm wrestling a shark bro you remember a uh you remember a devon i arm wrestled devon i fucked my arm up yeah and when you fuck yourself up like that it hurts yeah it's not good you'll pop all that adville tyllano nothing helps it wasn't good i'd like a look you feel i got a stretch right now because of it. You're like, man, I'm never doing that again. Like, even if you'll win, it's not worth it. You're like, yeah, I remember what happened last time. No, no, no, not worth it.

So, um, are you excited for the next year? I get, you got some plans. Are you going to move? Yeah, I want to move down here. Yeah. I'm not sure exactly when, but I want to take Reese my cameraman with me. I felt like that'd be the best thing for me. Yeah. You know, for him to support me as well, be there for me if I'm ever not in the right mindset. Yeah. And, um, I'm there for you too by the way yeah yeah yeah and i just i want to come down here and i just want to grind you know when i'm happy when i'm happy yeah and i feel like everyone he was always so nice to me you know they're always very respectful yeah ever since i've been here i've had nothing but you know great interactions with majority of people yeah we got the new gym coming i'm excited and i'm excited

for that this one thing i was telling people is when i was a bit younger my old gym there was a community I felt like I was involved a part of a community and I haven't had that for like a year yeah that's one reason why I want to come down here because I could actually be involved feel like I mean you know involved with the community yeah a gym you know you go there you see the same people everyone's all supportive and happy and like I haven't had that so long and that like that just that those experiences I still think about to this day I'm like man I remember a year and a half ago all these people were here and it was like the greatest time of life and I miss it like I miss it I haven't feeling like you everyone wants to be involved in like a

community period and no matter what everyone and I've been feeling like the last year so I just haven't been involved in a community like at least not from my own like online yes I have been but in person it's just been very lonely sometimes and I'm like man like I thought all this fame and success I would easily find that you know community people would just want to hang out with me or you know it just naturally come but that's just not how it is yeah it has to come naturally and that's one reason why i want to move here because i think out of anywhere this is the best place for that you know for sure yeah that's why that's one reason why i decided to sign with rogier yeah if i wanted that community it was like money's not doing it for me anymore yeah you can give me all the money in the world

but if i don't have anyone to talk to or be around what is it worth yeah you know what i mean yeah i mean We spoke for some time. I mean, I don't want to give too much of that information out, but I could definitely tell it was like you were lacking some of that, you know? A lot. It's just it got to a point where I just got fed up with it. I couldn't handle it anymore. Yeah.

You know, eventually you can deal with it for so long, but eventually it just gets you. Yeah. And you just lose it. Well, a new chapter. Yeah. It's going to be a good chapter. Exactly. I'm excited for it because I missed the days, like I said, 2017, 2018, 2016, those days.

we were just fucking like really fucking banging like going crazy yeah i missed that those were the best days of fitness content a hundred percent agree it was never like it's never been like that sense it's never it was strictly gym and fitness yeah like just so what matters yeah beautiful the golden era of fitness content like i that's what made me fell in love with bodybuilding and modern bodybuilding yeah seen that and i was like wow like look at these guys are having a great time they essentially get paid to work out yeah and motivate people it's the coolest shit in the world i can't even lie like i'm really grateful for that i'm doing it too yeah and it's like that is literally my it's been my dream yeah you know so like you should want to

want to bust your ass off and train and get better and record it like you should because that's what people that's what motivates people but i feel like lately it just has not been like that people are like showing off all this materialistic stuff, less gym stuff. And it's like, I guess people want to get to know who you are as a person, which matters too. For sure. But at the end of the day, you know, we are fitness influencers. You know, we're in the fitness industry.

This is what we do. At least it's where you started for sure. Yeah. And I don't want to leave it. Yeah. I want to stay in the fitness industry. I want to continue motivating people. Yeah.

I'm not going to say, oh, you know, I don't want to be in the fitness industry anymore. where I just want to do whatever I want to do now. We just got to make it great again. That's the thing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And people always, at least a lot of people that follow me, they say I bring some of that back to them. Yeah.

That, like, those vibes in my videos, you know, like, oh, you remind me of this person back then or remind me of these videos in the past. Yeah. That's what I do. Even if it's not in right now, I do it because, like, that's what I loved. Yeah, makes sense.

I'm trying to share, you know, with others, what I fell in love with in terms of training. How often do you post on YouTube? I don't post a whole lot, but I would like to post maybe twice two to three times a week. Yeah, we got to go crazy. But right now I've been on and off some days. I'll post three times a week. Sometimes I'll post once in two to three weeks.

We need like the crazy training though. No, yeah. You and I, we got a lift, no pussy shit. Yeah, I know. And I've also like, sometimes I think, man, I just need someone to bust my ass. Yeah. I need someone just to get my ass in gear and, you know. It's going to be fun,

be there, lift and make, you know, more progress. That's what it's all about. Hold you accountable. It's going to be a lot of fun. I'm really fucking excited for it. And that's the greatest thing in the world. It's the greatest thing, you know? Yeah.

Even if it's hard, like it shouldn't be easy. And I feel like a lot of people, it's just very easy now and it shows in their content. Yeah. Like, okay, why aren't people liking fitness content anymore? Because people are being lazy. Yeah, they're not. Take an easy way out. Yeah, they're being lazy.

They're not actually putting in the effort, maybe that they once did. They're just, oh, I already made it. I don't need to do it anymore. That won't last, you know? No, it definitely won't last. It will not last. Especially the newer generations because it's like, it's crazy because it's like every day there's a new person that's getting engaged in like, okay, now I want to change my body.

I want to change my life. Like literally every day. And eventually, if you're not connecting to that person in that sense, because you're just whatever you're showing you have, or whatever that's people are going to be they're not going to look at you as an official like a staple in that community yeah straight up and this is just what i've noticed over the like the majority of the industry you know what it is you know what time it is shout out to one of our sponsors roman swipes now listen this is a clinically proven way to fucking last longer all right if you have a

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you stop working hard you're gonna you're gonna lose for you have you get too complacent well uh it's not gonna last and i think a lot of people are i think what we're doing right now people aren't talking about it but i think it is creating a change for sure whether people want to you know admit that or not because of their egos or whatever they don't they just don't want to say it but it is i've i've noticed it yeah recently these past few weeks and I love it I'm very attuned to that stuff and my fans will tell me too

they'll tell it to me I don't even have to really even peep it that much they'll just let me know but I could tell I could just tell by what people post about and how they're feeling you know yeah I love it I love seeing that though even if

you know person doesn't like me or if I don't feel the best about them if they're trying to get their ass back in shape and get back to it I'm like there we go like that's what people want to see right there yeah that's more important than anything man yeah it's like it should it should feel like in this industry specifically it should feel like about you're getting motivation from someone else whether it be like influencer to influencer or influencer to audience it's like are we just trying to be like hey look at all this cool shit I have I mean in general even even

just like look at all these nice toys I have right here like this is like that one kid that I have this toy have this one what do you have or have this toy this toy it's like okay but how'd you get to that i mean this industry aside like it's it's it doesn't even really matter it doesn't the thing that's because it's not regarding fitness well even even even not even in this industry not even in fitness it's just in life like i understand liking nice things or having nice things but at some point like if all you did all i did was like hey look at all my nice stuff look at all my nice stuff I feel like at some point the person watching is be like, you know, I'm like, okay.

And I've noticed that you've never really done that. You've never really done that. You don't really flaunt a whole lot. Bro, I had the same car for the last like seven, six years. You're in the gym, like making more content. Like I've noticed that. Yeah. That's all you do.

You're in the gym making, you're trying to figure out something else you can do. Yep. Or test yourself. Like you're, you're 34, right? Just turn, just turn 33. 33 pretty much though yeah and you're you're going in there like man how much more weight can I lift yeah how can I challenge myself more yeah and so that's that's what people need to keep

doing like that's what matters yeah how how far can you push yourself to continue to get better you know what I mean yeah it just in general in life man like at some point social media it just kind of doesn't mean anything like if if all I posted about through my success and what I've gone through was like now look at all the stuff I have look at the car I have look at the thing I have yeah it's cool but at some point it becomes hollow like it doesn't really mean anything and I think there's a certain audience for that like you know if you're really in the cars you like cars you're into that right but for the most part at least the way I've encouraged people to watch myself over time it was never about the things that I had so

if at some point I'm all of a sudden just like hey look at all the stuff I have those people gonna be like I don't give a fuck about any of this like in genuinely speaking at some point no one really gives a fuck about that kind of stuff because the truth is none of that really matters none of that really lasts none of that is it's it's just not sustainable for motivation for someone watching and it's also not sustainable in life for your own happiness and I think people have it twisted it's it's more about one sort what what we're talking about earlier which is really interesting what sort of camarader can you create with your audience with the people who are watching and just with people in general like seeing you in real life me knowing you right

fuck the internet if I could meet you and get to know you and this is the person listening to you're in your gym, your little microcosm, whatever you're doing and you're trying to get better, the people in your circle are going to help encourage that. And if they're not, kick them the fuck out. If there's someone who's in there who's just like, yo, I'm just, look at all the shit I have. What do you have? This shit I have. What do you have?

That person just kick them out your fucking life. Because it's just like you're not going to get much from that other than maybe some sort of like ego feeling like, damn, I wish I had that or some sort of feeling of envy. Ultimately, it's like the things that are going to make you better on the internet and in person, are going to be the genuine moments like the genuine things, the learning factors like you actually pushing me, me like simple as being like, yo, bro, I'm going to see you at the gym today

or what are we training? Like that kind of shit, right? Yeah. Obviously on a big scale, if we're talking about, you know, on social media and like a big outward reflection of it, encouraging people through actions. Meaning like you see me,

if you've seen me over the last, however many you've been following me, I guarantee you probably see me in the fucking gym probably every fucking day. If you saw some story content or whatever, right? Always. But that's me. That's my life and that's never going to change.

I think a lot of people, they do things because they think they're going to get something from it, get some sort of reaction whether it be like it hate on someone or I could like show what I have. But it's not like they're not moving genuinely and raw enough themselves. It's not a vulnerable thing. It's just like I'm doing this to get an effect. I'm doing this to get a result. Not like I actually give a fuck about it.

So the people who truly become successful and continue to excel in this industry or in life in general are always going to be the people who really give a fuck about the thing and they they genuinely care about it and their actions prove that exactly i 100% agree yeah because if you don't you know if you don't care it's going to show and people are going to they're going to notice that people feel it man they know they do feel it and you know if all you if you're not showing what you love to do and you're lacking that then what do you have to influence like you're as us as being influencers we're supposed to be able to motivate people make them feel a certain way help you know help them yeah and if you're just you're not doing that

then people are just going to end up resenting you and that's it's not good you don't want to be resented by people yeah of us still but like me like my whole purpose is I want to continuously get better you know I want to better myself and I've got like trapped into that mindset like like losing it a bit and focusing on the wrong things it's funny because I had an altercation not too long ago at the gym and at zoo yeah okay that's who and this is CBD by the way I'm not getting high as fuck right here guys just listen this is CBD because I would be out of my mind if I was I was thinking about it too we were talking really like do you think Brad's gonna smoke and I'm like no he'd get way too anxious yeah I'd be fucking he wouldn't know what even the fuck to say yeah I'm the

same way yeah I'd have been like no I like being just a little bit high just a little bit but uh fuck I'm I'm gonna let you finish the story but I have something really funny to tell you right now I would came in here once and I thought that no we're on this talk about smoking and I was smoking I thought that I was smoking one of these which is CBD yeah but Steinie was staying in there and I grabbed a joint that was right here and it was not one of these and I swear to God bro I smoked it like it was one of these so I'm like I'm really hitting it now fucking 30 minutes later I'm having a fucking panic attack bro start freaking the fuck out I was what are all these lights here Dude, I lost my fucking mind.

I was like, wait a minute. And it, because you know what it got really bad was when it hit me? Because then I realized, wait, this wasn't the same joint. And it got so bad because I smoked it crazy. Anyways, I'm sorry. That was just a random story, but go ahead. You really were just like, there was a time where you're just like sitting there and you're listening and your brain just stops working.

Oh, bro. And you finally realize and you're like, oh, fuck me. Yeah. But you can never get as bad as it can from edibles. Edibles, I have horror stories with edibles. Yeah. I've had old educations. with my father he's had altercations with people all the time and he he's gotten mad he's gotten

aggressive I've gotten mad I've got aggressive and you know he hug it out yeah and it's like where is that nowadays where is that all right yeah you guys get beef and get angry and get maybe in a really dangerous situation but notice though it doesn't it it's it's a it's through the lens of the internet it doesn't happen in real life exactly like it's it's it's a fake like facade thing because they can do it on it. It's just like an internet comment where someone could, I could run my mouth about you as a great or whatever.

But like I've never once been in person at any expo at any event, never once had anyone come and be like, fuck you, blah, blah, blah. Never once. It's ego, man. People get trapped in there. It's like their delusions a little bit. It's ego.

Yeah. You know, because same thing. I've been through a lot of altercations in person. And usually you resolve it or you don't. And when you don't resolve it, it sucks you get angry yeah you're mad you're like why especially if you have reached out and tried resolving it and you were like okay i'm going to be the bigger person and they still like stab you in the back that hurts and i've had that happen before and sometimes it's best to just

avoid the issue all together but yeah the fact is i'm like it's like all right at least you try you know at least you try but I've I've dead I've had both ways and I see this shit on the internet and I'm just like man like you guys you guys never it looks like you guys have never had a real issue yeah I mean and if you guys do you guys just either going to resolve it or not and more likely or not it would be resolved yeah they just don't want to they they just want to keep rolling things up you know and that's not the right way to go about it so what do you think would be at least at this point in your life and your career one of the most important things that you'd like to teach or to show or to give to the people who fuck with you genuinely like what would you want to say to those people what would you want to teach them what would you want them to know about you I would say I want them to be the best versions of themselves you know I want them to be who they really want to be so whatever that is there's not to be a bodybuilder or whatever I want you to do what you truly want to do in life you know that's what I'd want for

them because that's you know that's what I wanted to do myself and you're doing it and I am doing it and I'm showing them that it's a real possibility if you set your mind to it you can accomplish it and I'm perfect example of that I had nothing I had no when I first blew up on social media I had like negative $15 my bank account, and I had a car payment due in a week and a half, $350 car payment. I was broke. I spent all my money being stupid.

Yeah. And I had nothing. No cameras, no people connections, nothing. But I believed in myself, and I never gave up. And I kept going. So if I could teach anyone or show anyone anything,

is that, you know, you can truly accomplish anything. anything you set your mind to you just have to keep going where did you learn that from though like how like what actually like what or who instilled that in you because for you to understand that is is amazing it's the truth some sounds cheesy but arnold is really yeah because he said shout out fucking arnold and people it's funny people have a weird view of arnold now not a lot of people like him or people do love him but a lot of people are like oh because his political statements And I'm like, you know what? Arnold could come to my face and say whatever he wanted about my political, what I think politically or anything. He could just be like, I don't approve of you. I would still feel very grateful. And he would still be my idol because of what he's taught me. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like that is the least I can do, you know, is feel motivated and learn so much for free. Like he just gave it out there. And he made me believe.

myself. So if Arnold said something I didn't like, you wouldn't bother me. I'd be like, wow, like this guy's amazing. Well, it's so it's like you tend to, I guess I noticed just about you just after you said that, you're not much into the group think. People get into this group think mentality when it's like, okay, I'm going to not like that guy because he said something or I disagree with what he said. And now we're all just going to be on this side and be like, fuck that guy. You've, you recognize that despite any of those things or whatever, political, I think it's all bullshit. I political shit is dumb as fuck to me anyways.

But for you to go, but there were those moments that you've already gotten from him that have helped you in your life, that have motivated you, that have pushed you, that you're not forsaking that in the sense, in the greater group think of like, okay, fuck this guy now.

Yeah, no, there was a lot of people that did that. They were like Arnold, he tore his posters down. And they said, I can't respect you anymore. I can never do anything. I don't like you as a person.

Like you said something. I didn't like it hurt my feelings. I don't like you anymore. I don't respect you and you're a piece of shit. It's like, wow, like, I guess I learned that because Arnold said he would do things that people wouldn't like himself, that people didn't agree with because he believed in it. You know, he went against the grain his entire life. And he got a lot of, you know, negative reactions from it, but look where it got him.

Yeah. By doing what he truly wanted to do and what he truly wanted to believe in. So regardless, if. he said something I didn't like it wouldn't matter to me yeah because I'm grateful for what I've learned from him and the motivation and dedication I learned all that from because he would say it all the time you could achieve anything you set your mind to if you if you envision it like if you believe it like you can achieve it you know he said that and I believed it people would ask me what are you what are you doing I'm a bodybuilder I was I had nothing to my

name you know I wasn't competing you asked him yeah I had some size on me. I looked good. I looked apart. Okay. Let's go. I did look the part. People would see that, but they'd be like, my sister would be like, you know, when are you, uh, getting your real job? Oh, that's the classic one then. She'd be cutting my hair because she gave me free haircuts because she cuts hair, her sister. And I'd be like, you know what I'm working on. That's what I'm doing right now. Like, what do you want to be? I'd be like 19, 20 years long. I want to be a fitness influencer. Yeah. Well, how are you going to do that? I'm like, I don't know.

But what I do know is I'm going to make it happen. Yeah. And money will never be an issue for me. Why do you say that? Because I believe it. Money will never be an issue for me. What matters is I need to keep going pursuing my dreams because the money will come. But the money is not, is what's important.

What's important is I keep pursuing my dreams and I keep having that drive. How did you know this, though? like how who taught you that i i i think is i didn't always know that it's just what i felt inside of me yeah i didn't i doubted myself many times like man why am i doing this i'm not getting anything out of this i'm just fucking doing the same shit i was doing last year i'm not making much money but i'd wake up next day and i'd okay i i got to keep going like well what the fuck am i living for why am i living do i want to be a fucking math teacher like no that's i never want to do that like why am i in school i don't know all right i'm going to drop out of school i dropped out of school

i dropped out of school at 19 i was like i'm not doing this anymore okay what do i love doing i love being the gym working out all right how am i going to afford that i dropped out of 19 too by the way. Yeah. It was community college. Modesto. Nice. Junior college. Shout out of 209. 209. Maybe I was 20. Who knows? I'm fucking old now, huh? Yeah. A little bit. But I was like, you know what? So I was like, I need money. So how am I to get money? All right. I guess I'll get a job. I had jobs before. I was, I haven't had a job for a while. I talked to my dad. I'm like, well, it's a body shop right here. And my dad wants me to work. He's always busting my ass and I'm lazy. I'm not. I'm not working like all right what did bodybuilders do back then to do what they wanted to do

they worked yeah i guess i got to put my fucking big point pants on and i got to wake up in the morning i got to do what they do so i can do what i want to do in my future when did it start really picking up on tic talk when were you like oh shit this is a thing uh this time last year literally a year ago so it's only been a year really it's just been a year right now damn that's lit but i was still broke around this time i knew about you for a long time too you know a lot longer than a year you know what's funny is um i find that everyone tells me that like everyone's like bro everyone knows about you and i'm like i see that but look at the followers this guy is this much followers like it doesn't matter it's like look what people are saying in real life and i go to a gym in nowhere really

big in california and people are coming up to me like you the guy on ticot i'm like yeah that's me like can I can I get a photo and I'm like wow like why what makes this guy so intrigued by me and so like pretty cool so nervous and like happy to see me like wow that's such an amazing feeling yeah I'd be like wow like why does he look up to me so much like it doesn't matter he's happy I'm happy you know and I love seeing it and people see me and they they actually know who I am like oh you're the guy on TikTok and it makes me so happy and it makes me so happy dude it's worth way more than anything else like being appreciated yeah that's what i talked about earlier when we first talked like that appreciation people are appreciating and noticing your hard work

yeah and that's what i've always wanted like i wanted to feel appreciated and i when people do that come up to me and they talk to me it's like man like it always puts me in a good mood because i'd go out in the gym even to this day and i'm like you know i i don't really want to talk to people no one's really good all going to notice me it's just going to be a workout whatever and I'm going in there people are looking at me the next thing you know people are waiting for me coming up to me and talking to me and it changes my entire like outlook the rest of the day like I get so I get more excited than they do it seems yeah I'm like wow like I would tell my friends like yeah these person came up to me earlier they made me so happy like three people

I'll tell my fans like wow these people are actually coming up to me like blows my fucking mind what do you think it is about your content that that uh drives drives people to you honestly i would say the fact that i'm so i'm as genuine as i can be yeah possible i would say that but i feel like even if my content wasn't positive you know like objectively like all right he's not talking about you know good things he's talking about steroids or he's talking about this or he's joking about this maybe he's making fun of someone yeah

I see it yeah they're like this guy's kind of an asshole but like people would see it and they feel confident from it like they feel good like wow I want to be like that guy

get some Stacey's yeah I want to get some Stacey's I want to get some girls like look at this guy he's in the gym like I want to be like this guy it's like when I it's like that male role model idea like older men will say that to me men older than me will be looking up to me

it's crazy I'm like that's crazy and I think that's what it is people have this male like masculine like I guess influence well I think what we said earlier which is really relevant is that there's not like we're taught nowadays to not be that we're taught to be a little bit more I don't know we'll just call it sensitive which is fine because I'm a very sensitive guy but at the same time I know you are I am we've had conversations but but what I'm saying like it's regardless of that I think the idea of like being masculine for for in that and like being like really being in that sort of energy and like owning it is in this this day and age it seems to be almost kind of look down upon and I think that's why you have so much success is because you really embrace that in a time where everyone else is kind of like well let's follow this other path and I think this is indicative of the conversations we've had this whole entire time and of your success and I think how you continue to be successful. successful is because you're not a follower. You're a person who's genuinely thinking on

your own and you actually give a fuck about what you're doing and why you're doing it. And I think that's why you'll continue to have a lot more success in this industry. Thank you. And in life, straight up, man. Thank you. Um, and I just think it's important for people listening to know this kind of shit. Like genuinely, that's how you make success in your life that is lasting. There's a lot of other ways to make success that whether it's, you know, intermittent here or there, but the thing that people got to realize is if it's not genuine, if the things that you do,

the actions that you take are not genuinely like the direction you want to go and whether you're making a million dollars or a thousand dollars, who gives a fuck? Fuck the dollar. If what you're doing with your time with your life is not genuine of yourself

and you really give a fuck about it, you're going to be fucking miserable eventually. Yeah. So when people are like, yo, you should do this job, you should do that job, whatever the fuck it is, it's like,

sure, that might seem like the same. safe bet or uh everyone does that so i'm gonna do that but the people who find true success in life and true happiness are never the people who listen to the group think they're never the people who go oh he did it so i'm going to do it they're the people are like now this is what i want to do this is what's going to make me happy no matter what and you keep doing that and you keep doing it and doing it and then you're going to get to the point that you ultimately always want it and you're going to inspire a lot of people along the way to do the same thing that's the biggest like all this

other shit is smoke and mirrors is bullshit man it doesn't mean anything no and it And the truth is it's not sustainable. It's not sustainable, but who you are in your heart and acting upon that. And this is you, the person listening too, acting upon who you genuinely are in your heart and not because you think someone else said it's a good idea or like because your dad said you should do that. Like if you're genuinely walking in your path in the direction that you think is most valuable to you, like, because we all have that voice in ourselves, that voice that like we're going

and we go, man, this doesn't feel right. but like you know some people will say fuck it i'll just keep going because like i see maybe money right there or i see maybe pussy right there a girl so i'll just keep going in this direction even though like i know in my heart it's not for me like for example this is this is in my own life and i'm not at all is this a bad representation my ex-girlfriend was amazing did his girl for eight years incredible person but i remember walking along that path those eight years and being like three years in being to myself in my heart being like I know this isn't going to last but I wanted to last so bad but I know this isn't going to last and it would keep coming that would keep coming up

I know this isn't going to last and I was like but this and but this like the potential of where I wanted it to be or what I thought it could be despite what it actually was and it just kept coming up I know this isn't going to last and I stayed in that shit for years and I'm not saying that like you shouldn't go through that stuff you shouldn't deal with that stuff but I knew in my heart where I really needed to go and it was away from that but I was afraid to let go of something because of love because of that attachment because of like the idea of losing and it's related to my father my childhood but long story short man like you know in your heart every single one of us man you have that that it's you feel it you know it's not right and you're either listening to it

or you're not and I promise you the people who listen to that and if you listen to that more often than you don't you're going to find true success in your life I have no doubt about that. And I think you're on that path. I think that's the realest shit you could ever say right there, you know? I've experienced the same thing. Oh, you're doing it, bro. Yeah, but like, I respect the fuck out of you.

I want you to know that too. Thank you. Yeah, I just hope the internet knows that. I want you to know that. It's like, but when you said, like, you have to give it up, like, even though you care about it so much. Yeah. And you don't want to lose it.

And it could be maybe a bit selfish. your part even though you know you're like well I care about this person I love them so much or I love doing what I do so much and it makes me happy but it's like what's truly the right thing and the fact you know you knew what was the right thing and you did it you know that's the real as shit because there is times when you're probably like man like what am I doing this doesn't feel right oh yeah I mean but you kept fighting for it and you've made mistakes I've made a ton of mistakes like

when I tell you about it like I've probably made more mistakes than most people my age like I've made I've made some really dumb decisions yeah you know and it just comes to a point

where you start getting that feeling inside and the more you start acting on it the more success you'll receive you know and it's like it just comes just comes out of nowhere

what do you think some of the biggest mistakes you've ever made was yeah that's a lot hanging out with the wrong people yeah you know um i i hung out with them because they accepted me i was not accepted and i always craved that to be accepted so i hung out with the people that were at the very bottom in that were doing bad things because they accepted me but i always seen people as who they treated me and they treated me good but it wasn't good for me to be in that situation or hang out with those people it wasn't going to be good for my future right that was a mistake in doing that and being around it but i learned from it and i continued to get better i got out of it i continued to get better or

treating people really badly out of anger you know frustration like throwing like throwing how i feel out onto other people blaming them it's this person's fault or fuck this person or oh no this person's stupid like just throwing everything out on other people i used to do that a lot and i was doing it because i was scared to deal with my own emotions my own vulnerabilities and it's gotten to the point now like i'm almost the exact opposite now instead of dishing it out on other people i will tear myself down sometimes or i will just admit to myself sometimes right in front of other people like yeah I just, I feel very insecure about myself.

I'll just say it out loud. Like, I'm reminding myself. Yeah. And they're probably like, why is he saying that? It's really weird to say. Yeah. Like, people don't say that. That's not normal.

And I'm like, I'm doing it because if I don't say that, I'm going to lash out at this person. And I've done it so many times that I know that, all right, this is what I need to do so I don't do that. So I'll tell them, you know what? I'm just very insecure with myself. I'm not happy. And in result, I am treating you badly.

Yeah. I'm honest with them. And then they look at me and then they're like, they respect me and they, and they want to, it's like the opposite. They, they don't look at me like badly. They don't feel sorry for me. Like, wow, like you're a weak person. And that's how I always thought they would look at me. Yeah.

In return, it's like they admire it and they give you maybe another chance or they're nicer to you. Or the conversation that could have went so, let's say you were arguing with someone. and it was getting really bad and it was, you know, the time where it's going and it's getting bad and there's a time period you can't go back. It just gets so bad that, you know, you can't go back and change it.

Yeah. But there's a time frame where that stops and you could change it. And I've known that, okay, I have to be honest with myself. And when I'm honest with myself, I notice that people respect it. Yeah.

You know, people respect it. And I find that, you know, I don't want to be a mean person. I don't ever want to make people feel that way. So I will admit my wrongdoings or how I'm feeling because it reminds me that everything's okay. It's fine. You know? Yeah. People, they're kind of like, what the fuck?

But they're like, okay. Like, yeah, like that's not normal. People don't usually do that. But I think it showcases strength. Absolutely. It does. I mean, you show someone, you're willing to show someone like your genuine vulnerable nature like if someone it's like I had this conversation with fucking Chris DeLeo we were talking about

the same thing where like he wanted to be like fuck you you you made me you made me feel like this because you know he knew the situation deeper he felt this way about another guy another comedian and he wanted to say fuck you you you know you're a piece of shit because you talk bad about me on the internet and he's talking about how you went to a therapy and the guy was saying how like Chris was saying how the therapist was like well why do you want to say that and he's like well because like you hurt my feelings ultimately that's what he got done down to so then he wanted to say to the guy obviously fuck you but he got to the point where he was going to say like you hurt my feelings and like it seems like the weak thing to do

but like it it almost like you get the effect that you ultimately want it was for the person just to understand and that's where the true value comes in right yeah is you being your genuine vulnerable self is allowing someone to really understand you and if someone could truly understand you then they can truly get to know you and then they can love you and then you can communicate properly like through that right yeah otherwise like if i come out you i'm like fuck you you're a bitch blah blah blah is always met with friction yeah i'm gonna do the same thing back exactly i'm just gonna give it back what you gave me but there is true strength and and doing it in the way that you're you're speaking about doing it and i think people listening should be encouraged

to do that yeah i've done that a lot of times actually where i felt some kind of way about someone and I've said some hurtful things and I shouldn't have said it and they asked me why did you say that and I was I tell them because I was hurt yeah I was upset that's why I said it you know I can't take it back but I'm apologizing for saying that I apologize for that

you know and they start to understand why you know you might have done that and they can see it from you know your point of view and I think that's if you could you know people can do that you know that's a really great thing especially if you can do that you can see it from their point of view why they're upset you know so that's that's just what something i goes back to the listening thing we were talking about yeah and i felt i noticed that if i ever am angry or if anything if i just admit

how i'm feeling especially because we get to those time because we're stubborn and we don't want to do it like we know why we feel a certain way it's like we're just like tricking ourselves or we're like no i'm not gonna i'm not gonna do that shit fuck this person yeah people stuff they stuff a deeper. You know, you know inside why you're just, you don't want to be honest with that person or yourself. Yeah. And I find that, okay, just me being honest with not only myself, but that person makes me feel

so much better. Yeah. It's instead of them feel so much better too because they understand and people love, you know, we love being able to understand each other. Yeah. That vulnerability, you know, that's, that's the thing people lack. They don't get that in real life. So when someone's actually honest and up front.

And speaking from the heart, it's like, even if it's not a good thing, people are like, wow, like, that's, like, they can only respect that or admire that. And that's how I've learned over time. That's just who I am as a person. I'm not perfect. I made tons of mistakes, you know? Yeah. People would be like, well, you do this, you do that. I'm like, I have done that. You're right. But, you know, I try my best to get better and to make the right decision. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's what's all about? That's why people, like me as much as they do because I'll tell people the bad things I've done or the things that are not good or I'll tell you how I'm feeling like straight up honesty I'll tell people I'm not happy or I'm upset and they relate to that they're like wow like why is he saying all this stuff you know you're vulnerable I'm I'm a very vulnerable person and growing up I used to have that a really big issue being vulnerable with people because it was not something that was common in my family. Yeah.

Like we don't even really like hug each other a whole lot. Like it's just not, it was not common to talk to be actual vulnerable with my family among us. So I was like, it was hard for me to be that way with other people. So I would avoid it as much as possible. Yeah. And sometimes create this person that just didn't care about anyone who was arrogant.

I was like, okay. But that's not who I really was. And it's got to the point now like, I enjoy being vulnerable. I enjoy it. Like it's what I want. People are hearing me. Well, dude, beyond people just hearing you and like being able to understand you is like I will tell you everyone listening this, being your raw, genuine vulnerable self, like you will find the most success in your life in every facet.

Because if I met you and I didn't tell you exactly how I felt, right? Let's say we had an interpersonal relationship, me and you, anyone else in this room. and let's say you did something and I was like, man, I don't like it when he did that and it bothers me and it's in my mind and then we keep meeting and I'm like oh hey, what's it? I'm acting fake now because I'm not telling you

how I felt, right? Once I feel that way, it takes you got to let your ego down, you got to let your pride go down and say, hey, you know, when you did this this is how it made me feel. As a man, I have to tell you that, right? Yeah.

But at the same time, that's how you make everything work. Like that's how, if I wanted to have a good friendship with you, if I wasn't able to be my authentic self, what the fuck makes me think that I could have a long, good lasting relationship or friendship with you? I can't. Right? This goes to with girls, if we're talking about if you're trying to have a, you know, intimate relationship with a girl, if you're trying to have a good business partnership, et cetera, like if you're not able to tell that person the truth, how you really feel, how it makes you feel, you're not going to be

able to build on anything. Because you're going to build now off of a false pretense about what someone thinks that you think about them or what they think so now your perception and their perception is all fucking crazy you have this like this perception like oh fuck this guy and they think the whole time it's good and you're going to create this fucking disfriction and it's like if we're trying to make something last make something good like just on the most base scale like person to person relationship that how that's how it has to be if i'm not being vulnerable with how i really feel who i really am how the fuck can i build anything with you i agree i feel like that's why we clicked as fast as we did all right guys quick interruption we got another sponsor this is ship station now shout out ship station because before you guys all know raw gear right now the clothing company the apparel company the lifestyle brand it was called being fit gear and i used ship station for like the last dude i don't even know six years and it's one of the easiest platforms you use if you're looking to ship things efficiently seamlessly now this is not for like you trying to ship like you know stuff to like your homies or something like this is for like you

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yeah you know i was as straightforward as i could be with you from the start you know yeah and i felt comfortable in doing so because i felt the same from you yeah i've been i've always been that way man that's just my exactly and when you're in that position and you do you do you that with someone else and they don't return it feels kind of like feels bad yeah like you feel kind of sad by it or maybe betrayed you know it's just not a good feeling and I 100% agree and you have to do that if you want anything to last anyone you have to be vulnerable yeah if you want to succeed in general as a person you have to be vulnerable you have to know your weaknesses what are your issues what can you do better. I love asking people, what can I do better? And I'll tell them, like, don't, like,

just be as honest as you can be. Do you know what this symbol means? I actually don't know what it means. I'm going to explain it to you. This, everything we're talking about, the idea of being like your full, genuine, vulnerable self, this is a, this is a physical, a visual representation of what I thought it took in order to do that and to be that. Okay. Yeah. So, there are four things that I think are really important to self-development okay it's now this it's going to be I'll explain it real quickly but I don't want to get too much into it but basically working on your mind and obviously how do we work on your mind we learn we study we grow we try and see you know see some sort of like okay I want to get better at

this how could I grow how could I learn in this way how could I take myself out of what I know now evolving the mind right the body the same thing okay how could I Now, I don't have to be a bodybuilder to be the biggest guy to be the strongest guy, but like, am I setting goals for myself that is pushing my body to the next level, whatever level it is, whether you want to run a mile or you want to run two miles or you want to fucking, it doesn't matter. But setting goals that can be tangible on your body to better yourself physically, right? So your mind, you're physical.

And then these ones are a little bit more abstract. This is the way that I view them. Your spirit, which is, in my opinion, so looking into a. yourself and how you connect with other people okay so how do i get better at that when you came in and i greeted you at the gym that first day how did you feel i felt very welcomed so it took me time and i'm not saying this is like this was how i've been able to do it it took me time to understand okay that's in my opinion the idea of creating like a close connection with my spirit in the sense of my relationship to you and how you perceive me or how you view me

or how you quote unquote i don't make it sound weird but feel me like that energy right yeah so how do we work on that just by practice by knowing there's been times in my life where i'd come into a room and maybe maybe uh they they could definitely relate to this but i say i come to the gym and i'm like fucking mad or i'm like worried about something else and i like everyone's looking at me like oh is this guy fucking not good so that's me not being open into in my mind what I would consider spirit my relationship to everyone else and my connectiveness to them right yeah and then the last one is soul working on your soul which in my opinion is your true purpose who you really are at your core and what you really care about

and like so how do I get better that because this whole thing is about self betterment right yeah these are the things that I think someone can focus on and understandably so that you can't be better at all of them at the same time but try to identify self inventory of your like okay where am I lacking in like my genuine purpose like do I know which direction am I going in or where am I lacking in my spirit in the sense of being able to connect with other people or where am I lacking myself physically like am I setting new goals like realistically the over the last few months I would have been like four or five months since I've been dieting six months I've been dining I had wandered for so long in this space in the fitness

industry where I was like just getting by like physically I wasn't like oh I'm not trying to get stronger I'm not trying to get I was just like getting by and I was like fuck that I want to die it. I want to get leaner. I want to set this goal. So I'm not saying I'm perfect at all these things. I'm just saying these four things all represent the embodiment of like what I viewed at one time about being better, better human being. Okay. Yeah. Now I want to make I want to make this known to everyone listening if you guys are like, okay, what's raw gear, et cetera, right? So originally this was my logo because it was just the thing that I felt was important right yes and then over time when people came to me and they talked to me at

expos or in person they would share yo the content that you made that when you talked about this or when you talked about your father about your life or the things you went through your trials your errors all that stuff and you shared it with me you help me become a better person I didn't kill myself because I watched this so what I was realizing was the genuine nature of who I was as a person like on the internet and trying to be like my genuine self and saying hey this is what I went through this is what I learned this is what I learned this is what I know take it for what it is was a reason why I was having success similar to what we're talking about with you right yeah so the reason why I switched

the brand when I originally was like being figure which was I did that for years it was me just selling stuff that I like that realized okay if I'm going to involve more people into this brand such as yourself it needed to be able to relate to why it had success why I had success because it evolved to that point where it evolved to the point where I was like oh shit people give a fuck about this more than they care about the fact that I was lifting girls or whatever the fuck yeah so the idea of being raw genuine self that's deeply embedded into this brand and I'm and I'm really really happy that you're a part of it because you are like a you're a fucking spearhead in that direction that makes me really happy yeah sometimes I wouldn't even

notice that I just think okay people like me because of my character or they like me because maybe my looks or whatever. But, you know, as I've always learned over time, and that's why people truly, you know, appreciate me because I've always been very vulnerable. And, you know, I've told people about my troubles and past experiences. All this other shit doesn't last, man. That's what we're talking about.

Exactly. And people see more to it than just the superficial, you know, bullshit. Yeah. You know? And the people that have true. listen to me and that have talked to me maybe in a live or my videos they'd be like wow like I'm surprised D-Tren's talking about this okay I didn't think he was this guy to talk about how he used to feel depressed I didn't think he had the capacity you know people probably

think that they see this image this guy like oh he's just this douche bad dude you know he probably can't even think or whatever probably stupid yeah and I've been called that my entire life people who always say he's stupid he's weird whatever and I was just like whatever it is what it is but the fact I could make people see that some people see that

is an amazing thing that I can motivate them and they've said the same thing they've said to you like you made me like I me watching your content has made me continue to keep going yeah like I wanted to end my life but seeing your content

has made me keep going it's a beautiful thing I think most people in the fitness industry right now especially if you like young LA if you don't like young LA if you like Rogger you don't like Roggear I think it's good to understand

you know what's the purpose of the brand and I don't think many people understand that with Roggear they just think Roggear it's a dumb brand stupid people don't like it I guess I shouldn't like it either you know that's what they think

and it's like I think when people can realize the meaning behind it and why you're doing it, I think that will open up their mind. Like, wow, like, I didn't know that. Like, I had no clue that that was really how it was. Yeah, and it changes so many people's opinions. And, you know, that's an amazing thing to be able to do

because I didn't even know that myself. I feel like I've talked about this. I don't know, maybe not in enough detail. I know. You're just so surprised. Like, man. Like, I thought people would know. Yeah.

People know. But it just shows you could change someone's perception every day. Yeah. It changed mine. And now that perfectly aligns with why I felt it was right for me to join, Ruggier. Yeah. I was talking to you.

It was like a no-brainer. Like, no money involved. Like, I didn't care. Yeah. I just wanted to feel, you know, valued. I wanted to feel accepted. I wanted to feel good. Yeah.

I wanted someone to be there for me. People to be there for me to support me. real like raw like real shit yeah not superficial bullshit like someone there to help me progress to help me you know achieve my goals yeah together you know that's what I wanted and I didn't think I was ever going to find that but I perfectly aligned and I don't know how it did or why it did if you would ask me three months ago this is where you're going to be you're going to be with you know raw gear you're going to be hanging out with Bradley Martin doing a podcast with them and you guys are going to get along very well i'd be like what the fuck are you

talking about yeah like i'm with young la like why would i do that now it's like i've really done it and it just opened up my fucking mind yeah like and i i feel so happy about it like it it took a huge weight off my shoulder yeah just being here right now i'm fucking grateful to have you man it it makes me so happy like i i can't really tell you like words cannot explain like I was feeling anxious for a long time and you know I felt like pressured you know what I mean and I didn't feel good and I have no regrets yeah people can say whatever they want I don't care people like to hate on greatness man I like to hate on success I agree you know and it shows yeah but you got to remember too it always says more about those people than it does about the person

that they're talking the point is if someone's successful at what they do and they've been successful at what they do there's a reason yeah for that it's not just luck yeah remember we were talking i think the first day we met we trained and we went to go eat and we were talking about just like like uh basic shit like taxes and all this stuff and i remember you hit me later you're like dude no one talks to me about this shit no i was like wow like not one person has ever talked to me about that maybe besides my father yeah like no one has actually given me advice on how to navigate this shit yeah nobody it's never like that's like something you think is very basic yeah or like it's like I I had no fucking clue on it with a few other things yeah you know

like wow you you were surprised I didn't have something yeah you don't have that really like like you were so fucking surprise and I'm like what do you mean like like the other people were surprised too I'm like why what do you mean like like bro like you're like you you should have that. And I'm like, I guess, I guess I should open my eyes. I'm like, yeah, I guess I should. You know, it's like, that's not what people never taught me that. Yeah.

I was just thrown into it. And I guess people, the fact that the people that do teach you those kind of things, though, that's what really matters. Yeah. It shows that they want to better you. They're not just using you. Yeah. Or you know, you're just a character for their, for their success.

Yeah. You're actually, you know, they actually went up. lift you and see you succeed and i haven't had a lot of that in my life yeah well he's here man um okay so check this out wait actually before we get into the audience questions we do audience question at the end of every episode do you have any questions from me i'm gonna start doing this at the end of the podcast by the way because i always ask so many questions i have to really think i'm bradley martin let me ask you a question this is going to be improvised um yeah whatever it's all good what all right it just by the way everything's improvised that i do i just make this shit i

improvised too so i'm really thinking here at your lowest points like what made you keep going like when you felt like you were going to lose it like was there ever times you felt like you were going to lose it like this is it like i'm fucking i don't know what to do anymore like you wanted to give up like what made you not do that like what made you keep going because I've been there. Like, these emotions are eating at you. My dad. Your dad.

Yeah. And why? Like, why? What about that? Like, why did it make you want to keep going? Uh, fucking motherfuckers, man. Always at the end of the episodes. So, it was related to the idea of not being good enough.

And I wanted to prove, fuck. Otherwise, basically. Oh, fuck. Why does this shit always happen, bro? I wanted to prove that I was good enough. So even when I felt my lowest, I was always like, like, would he want to see me quit?

Would he want to see me fail? And I'm good enough to not fail, like despite the fact that you took yourself out of my life when he decided to? sorry um yeah that was it man it was it was uh me knowing that like i wanted to prove to myself that i was good enough and i wanted to want to keep going huh yeah no matter what you just said i'm going to keep going and the same thing with my training like that was dude i was like i remember so crazy when i was training it was

like the thought just the thought in my mind was like i'm fucking good enough and i'm going to prove to everybody that I'm good enough yeah not just to my father but to everyone everyone and then there was other points along my life where people made me feel not good enough not accepted and I was like you know what fuck this I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna show people that I'm good enough and that I can be great that I can't be accepted and I just like I don't know I always let that drive me that was always the thing that drove me genuinely man how I that's pretty much why I've been doing what I've been doing as well. You know, because I talked about it.

I got outcasted pretty much my entire life. You know, everyone always pushed me away, shoved me away. You're not good enough. I bet everyone's telling me you'll never amount to anything. You're stupid. You're weird. You'll never be anything great in this world. That's how they treat me.

They just, yeah, Dawson doing this. Are you kidding me? No, he's a loser. he'll never achieve that or he's stupid why would you like him he's stupid and i'd hear that all the time and i was i would observe it and i would just hear it i wouldn't say anything about it i wouldn't fight it and i had that burning desire to prove everyone wrong yeah to show them that i am capable of becoming something great and every time someone else in my life said no you'll you'll never do that you're delusional you're fucking delusional

I'm like, well, you have to be a bit delusional to be something special. That's a fact. As a fact. You have to be a bit delusional. Like, you're fucking weird. I'm like, I wouldn't want to be anything else. Yeah. Me neither, man.

Exactly. Yeah. And just like, you know, with you, your loss, when I'm in my deepest, like, my lowest points, I've hit rock bottom many times. And there's been times I was like, I didn't want to do this anymore. I was like, I just want to give. up and I'm going to lose everything. I know I'm going to lose it all and maybe I don't deserve any of this

and I'd be like, you know, laying down and, you know, whatever, in a shower or whatever and I think of my uncle. Like he he would be proud of me. Yeah. If anyone hates me in this world and feels a certain way and if I have all these haters that are doubting me

or if I've made people very unhappy he would be very proud of me if he was alive right in. now no matter what exactly even he didn't like me taking steroids he knew i was on them he had an idea he's done him before himself told me and he said don't do them i went against what he said and i did them and he wasn't happy with it i know he wasn't but i know for a fact if he's seen where i'm at right now and the man i'm becoming because i still have a lot to learn i'm still very young he'd be very proud of me

and I think about that I look I think like man he probably believes in me he's probably very happy so even if everyone else didn't believe in me

and gave up on me and said I'll get no I'm done with you I know he'd still believe in me and he'd still be very happy if I have no one in this world I remember when I had him yeah

at his lowest points and so when I'm at my lowest points I think of I think of him and I get over it and I get a bit happier about why I'm doing these things and, you know, and it ups me and I keep going. Yeah. I'm proud of you, man, and I believe in you.

Thank you. For sure. Thank you. And, you know, I feel like everyone should have someone like that, but for me, it's always been him. I don't tell people that. Most people don't know much about that, but he's someone I think about it because he was there for me when I needed someone and I was there for him.

yeah so he will always be there for me hell yeah i love it man special yeah she gets i mean shit makes sense i can directly relate to it so it makes sense why you you you have what you have and you're on the path that you're on yeah and i would be like would you want me just to give it up and throw it all the way no no of course not he'd say keep going even if everyone hates you you keep going yeah yeah that's what i'm doing if everyone loves you you don't get complacent you keep going you keep getting better he would always critique me there was always something i could do better and i appreciated that it wasn't in a negative way yeah he's doing it from a place of heart i think it's important man i feel i i every every every every one of my team uh i mean including

myself i think i try and i think they try to push themselves to be better genuinely and you'll meet more of them as you spend more time around here um i know sometimes i come across a little brash yeah and they could you know they can relate to that but i think they i think that they know and i know in my heart like my genuine nature is like i want good for everyone and i want good for the people who are here i want good for you i want good for him i mean you just want people to be better and i i've always been the person that was like more i don't know maybe maybe i'm a little brash because i was always really appreciative of really any sort of love i can get because i wasn't really you know

I don't want to get emotional but uh point is ah fuck um um um

yeah I guess I'll just say that um even tough love is good love you know I agree.

And I'm definitely trying to learn to be better overall. Just as a human being, man. This is moral of my life story, my life. But I don't know. I think you're doing it. Yeah, I'm trying. The way you believe in me, I believe in you. Yeah.

Yeah. That's all that matters. As long as you're trying and you're still going, that's what matters. Because if you weren't, you would have stopped a long time ago. Yeah, for sure. You would have said to hell with it all. and it shows I appreciate it now

sorry let's keep go let's get these let's get to these audience questions always at the end of the episodes man fuck it gets deep huh yeah it gets deep you know what it is I realized looking back now on on podcast

that I've done depending on the person you you start at a point where like you guys are kind of like not like you're not exactly on the same exact page and then through the conversation you realize like the person gets a little bit more comfortable a little more vulnerable

where like I really want it to be and I mean there are some podcasters that I'll do this stuff with and they're like right on right away but it's like they've been doing podcasts forever this is like your second one I think this is my second actual podcast like this I've ever done yeah the first one was the modcast yeah this is the second one I've done you know in terms of a video like this with the microphone what do you think about you like podcasts I love them yeah it's my favorite shit dude I love sharing my experiences and I love talking and my insights and it's probably the favorite thing that I love about doing what I do is because I could share with people and interact with them and talk to them I genuinely love sharing what I've learned in my ideas. I think it matters the most too

to be honest because yeah it's like I get to share what I've learned over life you know I get to with you I get to share it yeah you know and with everyone listening it's fucking dope it is I love it it's I could go on forever with these things like everyone's like oh do a podcast

I'm like yeah like I'm so excited you know but before i do like i'm a bit nervous like fuck like i'm gonna be talking what people gonna think about me you know like oh man it doesn't matter yeah you know what matters is i'm sharing my life and my ideas and that's what people really care about because that's how people truly get to know who you are as a person yeah you know what what are you doing this for yeah why are you doing this what matters who do you want to be and you encourage someone else to be like we were talking about other to be like their vulnerable self to figure out who they want to be and make their life better period yeah so watching you do it is what allows someone and watching me do it and everyone else

that people are watching on the internet it's like we have this responsibility to to try to be our best selves and be able to be vulnerable because we're just encouraged other people do the same thing and ultimately that's what's going to benefit them the most in their life exactly that's why i felt like there needed to be a change regarding the industry and i'm not saying i'm changing it but what I'm saying is I felt like there needed to be a change in the sense that you know there needs to be more you know genuine shit going on because if there's none of that and there's just negativity and materialism you know people are going to be taught the wrong things they're going to be influenced by greed by money by ego yeah by selfishness by hate and that's never a good thing and

you know the people that watch this stuff the most are usually the younger popular because they're willing to learn. They want to learn. They want to be influenced. They want someone they could relate to and live through. And if you're teaching them the wrong things and you're not, you don't care and you're just teaching them the wrong things,

that's not good. It's not a good thing because they're going to be the exact same way. And then they're going to teach, if they get to where they want to be in terms of fame, then they might teach the people that look up to them. The same negative bullshit. The same negative bullshit.

Yeah. And that's not something I want to do. That's not something I want to do personally. Yeah. I don't want to do that. I want to give people the best advice I can possible that someone else gave to me. You know, regardless of what I've done, I always tell people, don't do what I do. People always say, D-Chron, I want to be just like you.

People say that. Yeah. I say, don't be better. Yeah be better than me It's funny It just reminded me We were talking about this

It just reminded me It just reminded me of Star Wars Like the good and evil Yeah It just felt like Oh god It's funny It's a yin and yang man

It really is Yeah What Shrooms are hitting now No dude The shrooms are not hitting They're fucking done No I'm a nerd

I love Star Wars Go fuck yourself I used to really be into Star Wars Have you been watching The new Obi-1 I haven't watched I stopped watching TV A long time ago

like as much as I used to, but I used to be a nerd for that stuff. A big Star Wars nerd. Let's go. Let's get into the first audience question. By the way, that was great. You did a great job, man. Thank you. I'm proud of you for real.

So if you guys want to submit your questions, go to AskRawtalk at gmail.com. Let's go. And the first question says, I'm a 19-year-old and probably from the time I was 16 to 18. I was the biggest fuck boy in the world, playing with girls, leading them on, etc. and now I've gone to be a better person and I've become friends with one of the girls I have done wrong in the past we seem to vibe pretty fluidly

but at the end of the day she has a hard time letting her guard down for me is there any advice you can give on this I've been transparent about everything and have been true to myself and apologize for what I have done in the past but I really feel like I fucked this up in the past and want to fix this relationship

all right I got this okay all answers I'll let you answer as well obviously um here's the deal you didn't fuck it up forever you've fucked it up right now okay because if you did that like you said you were a fuck boy blah blah she's definitely built up some walls around you know the idea of you guys being in a relationship um you need to give some time whether you need to step back completely i don't know how the relationship is but beyond that it's going to come down to communication how well are you able to communicate with this girl I have no idea, right?

But are you willing to be like, you know, very communicative about what you're doing? Because at some point, if you wanted to make it work, you're going to have to kind of climb back into her graces as far as trust goes, right? It may make the most sense for you to just like chill back and let her learn at her own rate because at the same time, if you try to like, yo, look at me, I'm good now, look at me, I'm good now. It's like it's sometimes cannot be that person's time to allow you to be that person for them. You know what I'm saying?

So to the person who's asking this question. question like my best advice is like not necessarily like completely disconnect from it but give it a little space and like give her a little bit of time to to move past it because even even though you might want to move past it right now she's not ready for it and you have to let someone learn at their own pace and in their own way so I agree as well um also be as honest as you can be you know with her let her know what you truly want and if she's someone you want in your life you let her know that and regardless of how she feels you have to let her know if that's what you want in all honesty yeah and if she believes that like okay he really wants me you know to be in his life

and he's willing to change and you show that by your actions not yeah it's very important then i with 100% without a doubt know that she can trust and be willing to be more vulnerable and love you if you know if she's willing to be with you now and fight through it she's doing that for a reason because she believes in you but you need to show that and if you have been and it's just not working then you know you need to ask her you need to actually communicate and if if she doesn't want this then you just have to let it go but if she tells you yes i want this i'm just not where i want to be trustwise with you well you have to show her with by your that she can trust you.

Yeah. That is the best thing you can do, you know? And you have to be honest with yourself. Are you really doing everything you can? Are you really doing the right things? Are you learning from your past mistakes? Or are you just making excuses? And at the same time, too, I think it's really important to say,

are you doing it because you genuinely want to or is it because your ego? This is, you got to be honest with yourself because maybe it's maybe like somewhere in there, you're doing it just because now you don't want to lose her because you develop something with her that's a little bit deeper and are you doing it because you don't want to lose her because like you genuinely want her in your life so there's a there's a little bit of a catch 22 that you got to be honest with yourself a hundred percent because if you're just doing that because you don't want to lose her then you never will truly change and you kind of just be like dragging her along yeah which is unhealthy for both people it's going to mess with her

in the long run and you straight up it will you too but she you know you're just stringing her along which is fucked up it's messed up it's selfish so you know you got to you got to ask yourself that question as well yeah and i think once you you should know that answer for sure know that answer and you you know it's that the right answer without a doubt your actions will show that it is yeah and it goes back to the same if it doesn't work well then you know that's it is what it is that's life sometimes not everything works out yeah it's true no matter how you try sometimes you will fail that's all right to fail you know there's no issue we fail all the time yeah you just have to accept that you failed and some people can't accept that and keep moving

they just they just i got it i can change i can change our i could get her back i could get her back sometimes it is too late i did it for six years and yeah it was too late sometimes you just need to let it go yeah it's better for you and her but you will know that you will feel it in your heart if that's the case yeah and so will she for sure okay go Anyways, this person says, as a senior in high school and about to graduate, I just want to know how do you go about finding like-minded people? Any advice on finding people that motivate you and push you while sharing the same interests? Well, I'll let you answer that one. I would say it's very challenging to find like-minded people, you know.

But I feel over time, if you continue to do what you love and you surround yourself with what you love, that like-minded people, you'll just come across them yeah you know so it's not usually from searching like okay where is this light-minded person let me go find them usually it's just a result of you two crossing paths yeah like it has to be natural honestly i couldn't say anything different that's the fact yeah i that's what i've noticed because i've felt the same like i always wished man why can i find someone that was like me i've been in the same exact like boat but what i figured is that you know what matters is I got to continue doing what I love and surround myself with what I love my hobbies my passions whatever that is whatever yours are and typically you'll find

like-minded people yeah you know it's a fact that's you just got to get out there and you got to do it yeah it's the best way you can't you can't just wish about it or man I just wish I could do that I wish I could find them you got to go out there and live you know and eventually you'll come across them yeah I don't say can't answer that anybody better. He crushed that. Give us the next one. He did. That was it. That's exactly what I'd say. Okay. So it says, hey, Brad and guest, I'm struggling with motivation and want to get in the gym, but I, but just struggle. Well, what the fuck? Sorry. I'm struggling with motivation and I want to get in the gym, but just struggling to get, um, and keep the motivation. How can I change my mindset

and lifestyle to retrain my brain to become successful throughout all aspects of my life, especially weight loss. Okay. So first and foremost, weight loss is very important to this person. I can tell just by the way he framed this question. Make that your focus. And at the same time, remember the most important thing for any goal, literally any goal doesn't matter at all is why is it important to you. So you have to ask yourself not just because you want to lose weight, right? Because this is your goal we're talking about right now is you want to lose weight. You ask yourself, why is it important for you to lose weight. There's going to be an answer there.

You're going to get deeper and deeper where there's going to be an answer that you're kind of uncomfortable with, like admitting to yourself, admit it to yourself. And then you talk about getting like unmotivated, you have to remind yourself that moment, like that thing, that whatever that phrase is that like can ring in your head why you're doing it. Right? Because it's very easy to say, oh, fuck this. I'll do this. Whatever.

I'll do this. If you're like you're living on the surface of things. If I'm on the surface of like, you know, I want to get jacked, it's like, okay, cool. And then you think, okay, why do I want to get jacked? Okay, why did I want to build muscle? I'll just answer this honestly. I'll talk to you guys genuinely right now. When I was younger, I wanted to be bigger.

I wanted to have muscle. I wanted to look better because I wanted to prove. I had something to prove to myself that I was good enough. That like I could do whatever means necessary. I want to show that I'm good enough. And this related, again, like we're talking about earlier, to my father, to him leaving me in my life. and me wanting to prove to everyone that I was good enough, that I could be good enough that, you know,

that I could be special, right? So that's the reason why I wanted to build muscle. It wasn't just because I was like, I want to build muscle so I look cool, right? My point is this, be honest with yourself, take down your ego, why the fuck is it important for you to lose weight in this case specifically? Or any goal, let's say, whatever the fuck your goal is,

if it's just surface level, like, oh, I want to be a social media person because, like, I want money. It's like, okay, that's probably going to, you're going to wander with that. You're not really going to go, you're not going to be dead on. You're not going to, when it gets hard, you're going to fucking, you're going to quit. You're going to be a pussy because you don't know exactly why the fuck you want to be there. You just have a superficial reason for it.

Dig deeper into yourself why it's important to you and you will never lack motivation. Yeah. That's perfect. Yeah. You really got to, you got to know why you, you want that. And a lot of times people say, I want to lose weight. I just want to look good and they talk about it, but they never achieve it you know because there's they just want to look good they just want to I just want to look better you know yeah it's like well sometimes we all do we all want to look better there has to be something that drives you to want to look better you know so you have to be honest with yourself if you're not honest with yourself you'll never get there yeah if you can you know dig down and find out why why you believe you know and you also you have to also believe you deserve that too

I deserve to look better, which you do. You deserve to lose weight, you know, make it happen. Yeah. Create a fire. And if you have to, just get it done. Like, you do whatever it takes to get it done. Yeah. That's the best thing that's over that.

Like, if you can't find that, create it. You know what I mean? Facts. Create it. Yeah. That's it, man. That's it. I love it.

You're fucking, you were an amazing guest. I'm blessed to have you. Thank you. you're in LA, happy that you're a part of the team. We got a big year ahead of us, man. I'm excited. I believe so. Yeah. I'm grateful for being on here. You know, this has been a lot of fun. I love doing these. Yeah. Love talking. But, uh, you know, I'm very excited for the future and I believe it's only going to get better. Yeah, absolutely. So where else can they find you? So they're on TikTok. You're going to start doing YouTube consistently? I just got banned today.

Okay. permanently. What? On TikTok. Yeah. We're going to have to work on that. I had 300K and I just I don't know if it's permanent permanent but I'm going to try to get it back I've been banned on TikTok before permanently. Can you send me that stuff? Yeah, I could try and figure it out. But I've been banned before at 100K

like when I first started and I restarted and I got this one to 300K and I got banned again. Like they're just like all right you're done. You lost your account. Log me out. You're out of here. We're going to talk about it more off. Yeah, but yeah, just type

in D-Train. If you want to find me YouTube, Detron 800, Instagram, Detron 800. Yeah. If you want to talk to me, shoot me a message. I try to reply to as many people as possible. That's what I generally enjoy doing. Yeah. So it's, yeah, just type in DTrent.

I should pop up somewhere. We're going to fix your TikTok thing. I'm going to wait. Even if I don't get it back, I'm not worried about it. Like, even Reese with me, he's like, I didn't even care. I was on the beach tanning. And I was like, oh, look, they, I banned my TikTok again. No, we'll get it back.

I know. Even if I don't, I will get to where I was. Don't worry, we'll get it back. Yeah. But even if you don't, I believe in you regardless. No, I know for a fact that. Well, I've done it before. That's why I didn't bother it.

I'm like, oh, that's funny. Then maybe you just make another account. You have two accounts with 300K. Fuck it. And then more. I know it'll happen. I'm that confident. I'm like, yeah, big deal.

Yeah. For sure. It doesn't faze me. Well, it was an honor, man. What's that? So where do they find him? Do you just type D-Tren. Yeah.

You'll type in D-Tren or Instagram, D-Tren-800. I use the term. People ask me why. You might as well talk about it. Why I use 800 because of Arnold and the Terminator reference, T-800. He's a machine. I didn't know that. I like to model myself like a machine.

I love it. Because I'm just accomplishing and terminating my goals. I love it. Yeah. So that's why I used the, that's why I picked 800. So yeah. Just find me on there. And you want to talk.

message awesome that's it all right guys appreciate the love appreciate you guys listening uh remember if you're on youtube drop a like drop a comment who do you guys want to see next if you're on iTunes I think you can drop a review I think we're on Spotify I don't know how any of that works but if you're on Spotify like it or subscribe and and I have no idea but anyways we're out of here it was honor man thank you so much thank you for having me cool that was dope it was amazing