RAWTALK - Emiliano Vargas on His 46-Second Knockout, Jake Paul vs Gervonta & Why He's the Next World Champion

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:30 like figured it out got you the whole thing got you um well brother it's a pleasure thank you thank you for coming i know you took the time out of obviously you do the training stuff you i asked you before you walked in here but you don't train on the weekends i mean look um i do train on the weekends for for some odd reason i feel like everything lined up um my dad gave me the week off uh you know i'm getting ready for my next fight and i think he saw something maybe i was getting i don't know i was uh i was sparring 10 rounds eight rounds um you know and kind of like you know put it on these guys and you know it's kind of like we gotta we got to we got to progress a little bit you know regress a little bit just so that we peak fight night you know
Starting point is 00:02:14 so that that's what that's what i was really curious about how because i know like bodybuilding peak has to do with like condition that you're in physically like body fat wise towards a competition yeah but how how how would taking time off other than i'm assuming you're less tired you're so your nervous system could be more prime for that fight so so this whole year i've fought maybe four times already so which by the way your record's very impressive thank you brother i appreciate that it's it's it's very impressive because because obviously you you've won all your fights but in knockout fashion and then also the the madison square garden like the fastest knockout in 146 years is insane like that that is like no but first and foremost bro like thank you for
Starting point is 00:02:59 having me on the pod though real talk like i like i said i mean i grew up i grew up watching you your videos and the whole like ecosystem that you build around your brand and zoo culture and um you know because of you you know people have a place to be free and be creative and yeah uh be themselves so thank you for having me bro i appreciate that before anything you know It's an all-time pleasure, man, because you're, you said 21, like, your future is fucking bright. Thank you, bro. So let's get back into that conversation a little bit about the peeking. How does, I guess we're kind of just getting right into it as far as, like, boxing stuff goes,
Starting point is 00:03:37 because I got a lot of questions in regards to that for you. But is it, is it because of, like, just the burnout feeling, like, if you get too close to a fight and you're already peaked? For sure. I think, and going back to what I said, I think, um, me fighting four times already. this year and for each of those fights i've had an eight week training camp nine week training camp so i mean like one of those fights was 46 seconds you know yeah um i was in a night green training camp sparring 10 rounds monday wednesday friday you know i'm i'm going toes with total toe with these guys you know so uh because i want the best to come out of me you know i feel like the best only
Starting point is 00:04:17 comes out of me when you know i'm being challenged and we got to bring in new guys and we got to you know, just I love to win. And I love to grow in every aspect. So even since I've been a young kid, I've always been like obsessed with just watching YouTube videos on like certain fighters like Lomachenko or like how he would train or his full work or Floyd. Like, you know, if I just saw him yesterday at the game, chopped it up with him for a quick second. Is that your first time meeting him? Like third, third time. But, you know, him and my dad were in the same Olympic team. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:53 So it's kind of like we've always been around each other, especially him being in Vegas. So he goes, he goes, you're a bad motherfucker. He said, this one right, you're a bad motherfucker. So I always got love for Florida. He's always shown love. Yeah, for sure. I mean, he's a legend.
Starting point is 00:05:09 It's a lot of motivation. It's a lot of motivation for sure. I mean, everything, whether you like him or not, you know, his resume speaks for itself, you know, so for me, it's the best feeling in the world when, you know, I know Floyd isn't the nicest with everybody with taking pictures. And, you know, hey, that's him, you know. But for him to stop and take time out of his day and to, you know, congratulate me for my last fight and things like that,
Starting point is 00:05:36 it just, for me, it confirms that everybody pays attention to everything. Yeah. You know, so all I got to do is keep my head down and keep on working. And, you know, we're right there. Yeah. Well, in boxing right now, who are the guys who are the, the young sort of up-and-comers that are going to be taking over the scene eventually. Yeah, because it has to happen.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah, for sure. And that's a beautiful thing. Like all these fighters that I grew up watching like, Canelo, bro, like his last one, I'm like, bro. I'm like, bro, what? Yeah, I didn't know it was going to go that way. Yeah, but I'm being real with you. I put, I put, I hit a parlay. Yeah, I lost, I lost a bet. I was like, oh man, bro. But, you know, it's like your heart wants him to win because he's such a, he's an icon. He's a, he's a, he's an icon. He's a, he's a, he's a figure right you know and you feel like he's invincible and he's untouchable um but you know crawford he's just a bad dude bro yeah he might be one of the best ever ever for sure i agree i mean to do what he did go up i don't know how many weight classes if not two or three weight classes
Starting point is 00:06:38 and to do that to a great i mean and crawford's older than canelo yeah people forgot that you know so i give i give my flowers when they're due and uh crawford he's a bad dude so um i honestly you know my brother junior sparred him kind of like leading up to when they were building that that whole thing yeah and me watching that i was like bro like he looked like he was just it was effortless like gliding and you know like my brother would hit him and he my brother's a little bigger than then he fights at 47 at the time um and my brother's walking around like 180 you know maybe 190 you know so he's hitting him and his he's staying there bro he's not going nowhere he's like he was so solid that for me it was like i was in awe i was in awe i was in awe i was lucky
Starting point is 00:07:36 rooting for a while like you know i was like damn bro don't piece up my brother you know yeah but it was you saw the one clip you see the one clip is super viral where he cracks canello and canello like turns and he's like yeah real talk also too canello he's good at uh taking heat off of punches. So let's just say a punch does come and he knows it's gonna come. He'll roll with it to take the steam off of it.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Yeah. You know? That's just a timing thing, right? It is a timing thing. For sure. I mean, you train for that, you know? So, I mean, they're both grades, bro. I mean...
Starting point is 00:08:10 But my question was in regard to you because I think you're one of the next sort of like up and coming guys. Thank you. And honestly, why I wanted to have you on a show, I think in the next five years, you'll be in those sort of conversations. I, from like an outside watching,
Starting point is 00:08:25 I don't know, obviously it can go any way. Right. But I wanted to talk to you about that. And the reason why I asked you was who else in like your sort of age group that is coming up that you know like these are guys that. For sure, there's another kid who's in the same promotional company as me. He fights at 35 though.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I'm at 140, so it's like five pounds. It's a really no issue. His name's Abdullah Mason. he's a young kid too so my promotional company they're kind of like on purpose already building that up you know so uh i think his records you know around 18 and oh and yeah 14 something like that we're around the same yeah around the same but um he's he's a great fighter uh who else up the top of my head that's i mean that's the only person that i think that i'd end up fighting down the line for sure for a belt do you do you do you do you
Starting point is 00:09:20 Do you think boxing at all is a dying sport? I think boxing's been around for forever and it's not going nowhere. Yeah. I think people are fascinated with just fighting in general. It doesn't matter if it's MMA, if it's boxing. If it's a good fight, people are going to want to tune in. Like we've been doing this for forever, bro. It's modern day gladiating.
Starting point is 00:09:45 It's the most exciting thing to see. You know, so and especially there's no feeling like, you got a good build up and this guy's undefeated, this guy's undefeated, like you want to see it. Or this guy's exciting, this guy's exciting. So I just feel like a lot of these people that, you know, I grew up looking up to now they're kind of like, now they don't want to hit me as much. Or now they don't, they kind of see me as competition or maybe we're around the same weight class. So for me, I live for that, you know, because at the end of the day it means that I'm inching closer to where I want to be and where I know, you know, I want to be. You mean they don't want to hit you up like caught like like like like sparring or like you know
Starting point is 00:10:25 like me I want to I want to be in the ring with the best I want to I've sparred with Shakur I've sparred with and this is all like as I've been an amateur you know uh Shakur I've sparred with um another great fighters named Jorge Linades who is a think three four time world champion honestly the fastest hands I've been in the ring with um just Olympians gold medalists like the list goes on you know and And that's made me the best fighter I could be because, you know, in this sport, to learn, you got to get your ass kick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:56 You have to. You know, it's like life too. For sure. It's the biggest correlation to life is really what it is because I'm literally fighting for the life that I want to live. Yeah. Physically, you know, and I don't think there's, like I said, any bigger testament to that. You know, a lot of people don't know the whole process behind everything.
Starting point is 00:11:19 You know, a lot of people think. that uh you know obviously my father was a three-time world champion in 1996 olympian you know they stole millions of dollars from him you know we were dead broke at one point and uh if it wasn't from my mother you know who was working uber just to get me to tournaments uh you know i wouldn't be in the position or we wouldn't be in the position uh now so now is the best feeling in the world because i'm winning with people that i love you know and i got to see see that as a young kid and that filled me with so much anger and so much gave me a chip on my shoulder but it was the best thing in the world and god does everything for a reason because that's why
Starting point is 00:12:01 I train so hard and that's why I do everything with intention and that's why you know there's no choice but to win you know ever since I've been a kid like I've always been focused on boxing because I knew if I was winning in boxing I'm winning in life yeah it's the direct correlation you know so All I know is that if it wasn't for my mother to be the, now she's my momager. You know, she's like, she's doing all my deals. Shout out young LA. Just sign with them. You know, just a bunch of moving parts, but she's the glue to it all.
Starting point is 00:12:38 You know, and I love to give her flowers every single time because a lot of people don't know that. And a lot of people won't even believe that. That's the thing. A lot of people won't believe that because of the fact, well, you know, your, father was this or you know you guys have a reality show or you guys you know but life is life it'll beat you up bro you know yeah yeah i mean that's i like what you said it's beautiful about the boxing and being like it's relating it to life because it is like not not not not at all in direct relationship to boxing but i felt that same way about lifting it's like it's when it's
Starting point is 00:13:12 harder and like because you you made the correlation trying to fight the best like even in sparring and training. That's what makes someone the best, right? Like you having to go through shitty times your life's going to make you have the perception to see, oh, okay, I want to overcome this in a way that, you know, maybe your parents weren't able to or whatever it was. But that's like the hard thing I think for most people to understand about their lives when it gets tough is that there's an opportunity there to grow and to actually become better.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And it always sounds like fluffy and nice to say it. Or cliche. Or cliche. Yeah. But it is the truth. It is truly the truth. I mean, I don't think anyone's accomplished anything great by it just being easy.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yeah. So having that sort of fighting spirit to want to fight the best, like at all times is, I'm assuming that's probably what's made you great. Well, I think just fighting as a profession, you got to be a little fucking crazy, bro. I'm really sit back and think about it sometimes. Like, I fight people for money, if that makes sense, you know? But I love to do it. Like, there's no feeling like it.
Starting point is 00:14:17 There's no, like my brother who just fought on the Canela Crawford, he was a co-man event. I watched it, yeah. He broke his hand in the seventh round. Congratulations to Kenlin, by the way. He put on a great fight. You know, things happened. But it was on the biggest stage of the face of the planet. An event like that will never happen again in life.
Starting point is 00:14:35 But regardless, I took it as a learning experience because walking out and see 75,000 people is something that you've never seen before. It's crazy. And for anyone who can imagine that they could do it, I tell you, you couldn't. Because you'd want to walk right back into the dressing room.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I'm telling you, bro. No, for sure. And that's the thing. I feel like, you know, there's a difference between somebody sitting in the stands and someone who's performing. Like, I go out there and I perform.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And I said this walking in, you have to perform in front of your family critics um you know live television the whole internet now come on yeah yeah exactly and then if you do your whole meme for life bro yeah you're a whole meme for life you know which is it's a crazy it's a crazy aspect to think of that was never relevant to boxing before it was just like these two men like duke it out that's it's it up bro and now the internet like the debonaney ones yeah the internet's crazy bro it is bad so does does that does that ever fuck you because you know there's from what i know i did one of Ryan Garcia's very first interviews
Starting point is 00:15:48 way back in a day before he really blew up at my old gym and then he obviously blew up he would get a lot of the times this you're a social media guy you're not really a bot he still kind of gets that sort of shit social media guy is making millions of dollars
Starting point is 00:16:05 yeah he's crushing yeah for sure but do you ever like how do you find the balance with social media and boxing and it not feeling like you're just doing this for a view because I know you're not it's clearly because you're actually doing it right right but do you ever get that sort of like feedback i think um everybody will always have something to say that makes sense i feel like even
Starting point is 00:16:26 being a young kid and and posting and you know at first obviously my father being who it was people were going to follow me people were going to yeah you know uh be on my page but you know as i started posting as I started you know putting up my own showing who I am and you know not just being um you know my dad's son like for me one of the biggest things was when you search my name up it says I'm the end of August professional boxer you know before it would say for nandovalgus his son so little things like that for me were like indications of where okay you know I'm starting to make a name for myself and I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for my father my father's the best father in the world he never had a father you know and he's living through my eyes what it would be
Starting point is 00:17:12 if his father was there right so that's beautiful i always give credit to my father because i i wouldn't i wouldn't be here i wouldn't know how to box i wouldn't know how to be you know the young man i am today um and of course the good and the bad that he learned from his career is put to my career so excuse my friends but i'm not going to let managers and uh dirty motherfuckers in boxing and fuck me. I'm not. You know, so, and, uh, it's a beautiful thing because now with that experience, we just grow. Yeah. Grow like we've never, you know, grown before, especially in the beginning stages of like my dad's career. It's, it was different. Like, if you weren't fighting on, um, HBO or you weren't fighting on, the only way you were, uh, famous is if you were
Starting point is 00:17:59 on TV. That was it. So it was different times, right? Those days are dead. Yeah, for sure. But going back to that you have to grow you have to you know if now you're going to get left behind and the sad thing is is there's world champions that have dedicated their entire life to the sport given blood sweat and tears but nobody knows who they are and they're world champions and they they climbed their way up and but the thing is nobody wants to come see you fight that's the main thing i feel like for me that would be the biggest hurt in the world you know for me to do this and do that and you know, which I am doing, but nobody wants to come see you fight. You know, it's like, I want people to know who I am.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I want people to recognize the sacrifices that I put in, you know, not just on my body, but, you know, to the sport and, you know, your brain isn't meant to get hit at all. Yeah, you know. So you're not with those gloves on. Exactly. And then, and then growing up from a young kid, as your brain is developing and getting hit. and get in here and getting hit so i mean look it it pains me sometimes my dad forgets where his car is at or you know um just things along those lines but i know every single punch that he took
Starting point is 00:19:16 was for me and my brothers yeah you know it's interesting you guys kind of reminds me of like the ball family like there's like the three brothers the dad um so who's dropped in the mixtape which is the one drop in the mix tape i think i bother with i mean my brother a model the curly head he's crazy motherfucker man I'm a motherfucker he actually he'd be calling me like hey bro let's go to the studio
Starting point is 00:19:37 I go bro what wait are you serious I was trolling on my life all my life on my life I'm like what are you talking about bro or he'll hit me yeah I'm like
Starting point is 00:19:45 he'll just be with me and then he'll face something like oh I'm getting a tattoo bro or oh I'm like he's all over the place but I love him to death bro he's honestly um
Starting point is 00:19:58 he's a huge life If that could represent him, like wherever he goes, he lives up a room. Yeah. You know, he'll get into rooms that I can't get in, if that makes sense. And that's a beautiful thing about me and my brother's like, you know, he's crazy and he's flamboyant. He's like, you know, a little bit more low key. You know, I keep to myself. Like, he'll hit me.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I'm like, yeah, bro, I'm going to dinner with Chris Brown and his manager and this. I'm like, how'd you? What? Yeah, I just met him in the elevator and I was shopping it up with him. Like, I don't go up to be like, hey, my name is Emiliano Vargas, like, you know, this is my last knockout. Like, I'm cool. Like, if you recognize me cool, if not, you know, but I just, that's where I'm, I'm
Starting point is 00:20:40 to myself. You don't give a fuck, bro. It'll tell you everything, but, you know, that's him. Yeah. And he gets into rooms and brings me and my brothers into those rooms. And I get into rooms, you know, that they can't get in and bring them into those rooms. So, like I said, there's no feeling like winning with people that I love.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Yeah. And that's my family, bro. I was going to ask who's the favorite brother, but it sounds like it's a synergy. For sure, for sure. Yeah, I think, I think me and I'm a little closer to age, you know, so we hung out a little bit more, but we're all, bro, we go to work every day together. Yeah. We go to work.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I mean, we go to the boxing gym, say what's up to mom, see what's up to dad. Do you guys ever fight each other? I used to spar with my brother, Amado, but that should get ugly, bro. We'd wait to, we'd wait till. It's way more serious when it's blood. No, but just the bell turns off, and then we just start talking to each other. That's it, motherfucker? Come on.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Like, bro, and we're going, and we're going. And it just gets to a point, like, at the end, of course, we hug and we love each other, but it's just over, like, stupid shit, like, hey, where's my charger? Like, bro, like, what? So, and my dad says it like this, you're looking in the mirror, right? Yeah. You're not going to be disrespectful. So if you disrespect your brother, like, you know, you just, you're, you, you, you,
Starting point is 00:21:59 Disrespecting yourself, you know, so I just, I just feel like the beautiful dynamic that I have with my family is one-on-one, bro. It's one-on-one. We're working on a couple of things. Shout out my guy, Charles, shout-out Charles. A great, great friend of ours, a lawyer. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. A motherfucker looking like a hitman. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:21 But we're working on a reality show right now, and it's looking good, man. So, the Vargasians, you know what I'm saying? The Bargashians? Hey, so I took that from one of the hate comments. That's funny. I mean, it works, right? I get it. But, but I mean, so that, that does really lead to the importance of this sort of the popularity along with the boxing.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Because you can't be a great boxer and have a lasting legacy if you just focused on, you know, the bullshit. For sure. But so how important is that other aspect, the social media. Yeah. Like, do you guys sit down, do you plan? Like, are you posting enough? Are you? For me, I just, I understand that, uh, you have to remind people that you exist every day. You know, I feel like, especially, you know, where I am, I feel like the biggest thing, I don't want boxing fans. I want, you know, people who don't know anything about boxing to know who I am. Hey, maybe I saw that guy or he was doing this or he was doing a charity event or he was, uh, doing a charity event or he was.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah, things outside of boxing, right? Maybe not just a TikTok video, but, you know, I'm doing my second annual Thanksgiving drive. You know, this coming up this year, we did a backpack drive, gave out 500 backpacks of kids and things like that in Vegas. Things like that that make me feel good because when I go back down to Oxnard, you know, my dad, obviously back then when he was where championed and lived down there would give toys and turkeys for Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving and families. And people still to this day will come up to him and be like, hey, bro, I just want to say thank you to you and your family because that was the only toy that I got for that Christmas. Yeah, that's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:24:05 You know, so for me, it's the biggest thing in the world, bro. Like being more than just myself, and look, you don't have to know me. There's a saying that goes that people don't care enough to know who you really are. So they only care about what the perception you give off. So if you give off that you're a winner, people will understand that you're a winner. Yeah. You know, if people, you give off that, you know, maybe you're a little arrogant or this or that. People will just, they don't care enough to know who you really are.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Yeah. And I'm sure you've dealt with that too, you know? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You're, for me, honestly, just meeting you in this short amount of time, you seem like a very genuine guy, bro. But I'm sure people see the bad clips or they see this and they paint this picture of you. And they don't care enough to know the real you.
Starting point is 00:24:51 So. Yeah. That's just common. That's just the internet. Yeah, it's just like, it's true to what you said about perception. That becomes people's reality of you because they, unless they're in the same room, they'll never truly know you. For sure.
Starting point is 00:25:02 So I have a question going back to, you know, you talked about your father and he was younger. You've given out the stuff. When you were younger, was boxing always the thing you wanted to do? I was born at a time where, like I said, we moved from Spanish Hills in Camero, California to Vegas. My father was a drunk. He was alcoholic. He was alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Yeah. You know, I was born when we lost everything. So, you know, growing up, we shot out to Vegas. A lot of people don't know this story, actually. And, you know, I feel like this is the platform to talk about it. Moved out to Vegas. And because my mother was like, okay, if he's a drunk and he's not going to give it up, We're going to go to Vegas, and I'm going to find out sooner whether I leave them or not.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Yeah. So my mother's, she's the best, bro. Yeah. So. Well, she's got to protect you guys. For sure, for sure. So we go down there, you know, losing everything. Like I said, my mother was working Uber.
Starting point is 00:26:10 My mother was working as a maid. My father was a drunk. It was, this is what I grew up, seeing. At that same time, you know, we went to an event with my dad. And I did. And I saw some amateur fights. What age you think this was? I was 10 years old.
Starting point is 00:26:36 10. I was like, I want to do that. And I've always been around it just because of the fact that, you know, my father being who was, we go to events or whatever it may be, you know, he's drunk out of his mind. You know, I just grew up seeing that, right? Yeah. Um, I went to the boxing gym and I trained and I sparred and I, you know, I was piecing this kid up and, you know, I was like at 10. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And, and, uh, I liked it. kept on doing it. I won my first amateur fight. And I fell in love with winning. How many amateur fights? You know, a hundred and thirty some amateur fights with 10 losses. I was seven time national champion on the USA team. So, you know, just, you know, just. Just, I, bro, I literally, all I saw was tunnel vision. All I understood that if I won in boxing, I could win in life because I saw every, all these stories growing up and hearing all these stories of, you know, these parties and, you know, my father, how much you would spend on my brothers and going to Toys R Us and putting his hand through the, through the thing and shopping carts full of toys and my brother would break his PlayStation and my dad will buy him a new one and all that filled me with anger bro it did so
Starting point is 00:27:56 I what filled you with anger because it was for sure why why why why because I felt like I never got to experience that and they were rubbing it in my face oh because you were hearing stories about it stories about it but when you grew up it was after all that oh okay I get it for sure for sure so you know I just understood that if I was winning a boxing okay now Now I can get endorsements. Now I could, you know, do this. I was selling chips on the court. At the age of 12 years old, bro, I stopped asking my parents for money.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Because I understood, I fully like, okay, we don't got it, we don't got it, you know. So because you're a young kid, you think, you know, okay, I could do that. We could do this. But, you know, they're making it happen. They're stretching them. My mother's stretching herself then to make that happen. Yeah. You know, so just my whole childhood, I dedicated my life to the sport.
Starting point is 00:28:50 of boxing and now I'm getting paid for it and now my father works with me and now my mother you know it's the best friend in the world to give her percentage of everything that I'm doing you know so I'm always grateful I feel like God did that on purpose you know to fill me with such passion and such anger towards the sport of boxing because I'm gonna fuck the sport of boxing for everything yeah and I'm gonna milk it. Like a motherfucker. I don't care any opportunity. I'm a milk kid.
Starting point is 00:29:23 You know? So that's just the vendetta I have towards boxing. And that's why I move the way I'm moving. That's why, like, nothing else matters besides fighting. Like, fighters fight one time a year, twice a year. I'm fighting four, five, six times a year. Do you think you'd keep that up, though, even as your career progresses? No, because my contract doesn't allow me to.
Starting point is 00:29:43 So I went from six, my first year, five, my second, and I'm around, I'm at four fights this year. So I'm going to do another one that's going to be five. All right, boys, quick interrupt for the podcast. This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp. And in I think three days is officially mental health day, October in the whole month, without a doubt in my mind for specifically young men talking about what's going on in your life or the challenging parts of your life sometimes can be difficult, specifically in like maybe
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Starting point is 00:31:17 your energy towards it I feel of course I don't ever picture myself losing right because I'm a winner but I understand this is understanding that my dad told me this too
Starting point is 00:31:31 and told my brother this in the locker room he said look how many times do you see me lose you know five times in my dad's career right which is crazy as fuck right yeah so and fought against the best
Starting point is 00:31:43 but I'm still tripping he he crushed it And he got fucked by managers, promotion companies? For sure. Just a lot of things. A lot of being on discipline as well. I'm not going to sit here and say that, you know, they spend $33 million in his career, you know. So.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Holy fuck. It's very easy to do. Very easy to do. He spent or they spent. However, however it went. Damn. Damn. $33 million.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Right. But. it is what it is yeah you know it is what it is and i feel like god is going to give back that and more because that's what i believe you know whether it's inside of the ring whether it's outside of the ring yeah because you know i can only box for so long you know your body can only take so much so i just understand that building a brand around you know myself and what we're doing and everything is so important. And going back to your question, only God knows, right?
Starting point is 00:32:50 But I understand that I have great people around me. I have a great support system. And of course, it's going to hurt because, you know, I'm a winner if that were to happen. But I understand that, you know, I'm going to win again, you know, whether it's inside of the ring or outside of the ring. I feel like, you know, we'll cross that road if we do cross that road, but the grades have lost. My father is lost. Yeah. Muhammad Ali is lost.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Roberto Duran, Canelo Alvarez, like, you know, it's part of the process. I feel like Floyd kind of took that and kind of changed the sport a little bit with his O and that whole montage. You know, I mean, he's, I'm not taking anything away from him because he's a great fighter. like taking all of those fighters and using your defense for them not to be able to hit you not to be able to it's something amazing special it's special for sure so i'll give credit where credits do but you know all the grades have lost is that one of your goals is like the mayweather goal like that oh 50 something um i just want to be a great fighter yeah so you don't you don't look at anyone go i want i want it like that um
Starting point is 00:34:07 I feel like I don't want to be any other fighter. I don't want to be a Canela Alvarez. I don't want to be as much as I, you know, idolize him and the way he fights and the way, you know, he conducts himself and other fighters as well, right? I feel like I want to take a piece of everyone and put it together into my arsenal, you know. I just feel like I want to, I want to be a great fighter. I want to be a great person. and I want to be somebody who people look up to and be like I like the way that guy talks
Starting point is 00:34:41 I like the way that guy dresses I like the way he treats other people I like the way aside from the boxing because that's a small portion of my life you know that's maybe what another 10 12 13 years yeah you know I'm 21 I'll be 32 33 you know but I still have the rest of my life you know so the only thing though is I'm going to maximize
Starting point is 00:35:03 every opportunity like I said So I just feel that this portion of my life, I have to dedicate everything to it, and it'll give me everything back. Yeah. You know, it's interesting, kind of on what do you do outside of boxing, not not recreationally, but because there's so much nowadays for like performance enhancing, I'm not talking about drugs or anything like that, but like recovery methods, peptides, all these sort of things. I don't even know how the boxing, how the sort of federation treats these peptides and things. I don't know if it's like a thing you can't do or can do, if it's gray air or not.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I mean, every state that you fight in, they have their rules and regulations. Yeah. So, I mean, whatever state I am fighting, I mean, I have to check the regulations with that. But I think just the whole process with doing things that my dad didn't do, right? taking the good and the bad out of his career and putting the detour's mind like the recovery like even myself i'm not the best with my recovery because all i want to do is go right but i have to
Starting point is 00:36:10 remind myself like and my dad does a great job of that too like i said i had a week off but i'm still running every day i'm still you know um doing my strength and conditioning i'm still just from the boxing i'm taking a break so um recovery for sure i go to a badass place out there in Vegas is called Project Well-being. I've been there. Everything. Yeah. My guy shines all tatted up.
Starting point is 00:36:34 He's a great guy, man. So I've been using it for five fights now as a strength and condition. What are the, what are the things that you do? I do, uh, red light bed, uh, cold plunge. I got one at the crib too. But there is they got, bro, they put theirs like 32 degrees, 33 degrees, some crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yeah. So I'm in there for like, a minute. The float tank, uh, where it's just, dark right and you're in it you're like kind of floating yeah it's like a bubble thing i haven't i haven't i've been in the mineral soaker i've done uh the cryo chamber the hyperbaric for sure is fucking for sure for sure just because of the fact that it just reverses all the you know many concussions that i'm putting into my yeah you know i think that's important that's the main as i'm saying there's so much stuff now that yeah i feel like in my dad with stem cells yes i just did that
Starting point is 00:37:24 shit for my pinky because i got my pinky cut off oh wow yeah like look at that shit It's kind of fucked. My brother's fingers like that. It sucks. I call him Nemo. Thank you. Don't call me that. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Don't call me that. Nemo. But I'm saying there's so much stuff now that my- It's crazy. In the next five to ten years, I feel like we could have even better boxers. You have to grow. I truly feel this. And I know I'm going to get a lot of backlash with this.
Starting point is 00:37:53 But I feel like boxers back then would never be able to hang with boxers today. And I'm talking about like 1940s, 19... You know, motherfuckers fighting like this and shit. Yeah, yeah. It's different. You evolve.
Starting point is 00:38:07 You're for sure getting shade right now. Come on. I'm not gonna lie. Like, when this clip hits, there's... Yeah, no, no, no. But like, I mean, look, I'm talking... I'm not talking... I see what you're saying, though.
Starting point is 00:38:15 I'm not talking, you know, Roberto Duran and all these, like, they'll hang in there. Yeah. They'll hang in there, right? But I'm talking about, like, maybe 60s under. Yeah. 60s under. like bro that ain't working bro it's not working on me bro i promise you and i know this is gonna get clipped
Starting point is 00:38:33 well there's so much game now too there is so much like you can study so much more for sure for sure for sure and i feel like styles change um training gets better recovery gets better so i think each one of those pieces putting it towards my game is the best you know i feel like i have an edge towards you yeah if you drank if you smoked if you partied in the last 10 years, I already beat you. That's how I think mentally. Yeah, it's good. You know?
Starting point is 00:39:03 Because I do what you won't do. And if you pick up a drink because a woman told you too, that tells me you're weak mentally. You're also just a loser. Yeah, for sure. You're a loser. Bro, look, and I'm going to be so real with you. She's going to fuck you anyways, bro. You don't got a drink.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Like, to all my bros out there, I'll be real with you, bro. You don't have to. Like, if she fucks with you, she fucks with you. If she does it, she doesn't. Yeah. I think it's more so the men who do it because they're sort of uncomfortable with like making that move or whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And they feel like that gives in the power. And they want to be loose and they want to be. Yeah. But no, no, I agree with you. I think it's a cop out. And you're also just literally destroying your body. Don't get me wrong. I had my time.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I did my time. Right. I partied a little bit, obviously. But never was I big into it because I always chose what's going to actually make me feel better. What's going to actually make me perform better? Obviously not boxing, but in bodybuilding. And this is like.
Starting point is 00:39:56 You didn't do that by drinking. and partying every day. Fuck no. You know? I was never about that. Like truly about it. I did it in some, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:02 I did some vlogs here there when I filmed a lot of stuff with milk. Right. But never, even prior to that. And how crazy is that though? What?
Starting point is 00:40:09 That they get paid to do that though. It's nuts. That's actually the craziest thing, bro. Yeah. Like they do the exact opposite. Yeah. I couldn't believe it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:19 But it shows, I mean, there's just a giant, you know, population of people that do that. But I've always chosen, like, what's going to actually make me feel better?
Starting point is 00:40:26 Because there's those days when I'm hungover, I'm like, why the fuck did I do that? I feel you. So you've never really done any of that shit. Never smoked. Yeah. So, okay, I wanted to ask you more specifically, like your protocol. Do you do you take supplements? Do you?
Starting point is 00:40:41 I actually take no supplements besides Seamus. I actually talked to Charles about this. Like, I got to get my supplement game. Yeah. Like, you know. I'll help you. For sure. Just don't get Ryan Garcia with the Astrogana thing, whatever the fuck it was, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:56 There was, they said there were steroids in this shit? It was, I think it was Ostrained. Yeah, but that shit ain't in those products. I don't know. In Ashragonda? No, no, no. No, Astrogan is a little different. But you're talking about, you're talking about Ostraining that, that essentially a steroid.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I just think that, like, Devin can't keep his right hand up. Keep it up, champ. He was cracking him. No, but I mean, I honestly, like, if it was a close competitive fight, he was on all strain okay run a back cool yeah right but then you want to assume you want to do I don't know what that all was for I just say fight him again I just me personally I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bash nobody but as a as a man or being an outsider right as a young man just fight him again bro make sure he's clean fight him again do you think that who do you think avoided that
Starting point is 00:41:51 who knows yeah who knows I mean I think it just got a little mess I think they'll fight again. It's a bag, bro. Yeah. They'll fight again. I got Ryan again. I think they're at 47 now. They're a little bigger.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Yeah. Who knows? But I think Ryan just has his number. I've even seen sparring like in the gym. You know, I'm sure Ryan's a little overweight. Demons not in fight shape, you know. Yeah. And Ryan's just piecing them up.
Starting point is 00:42:25 you know so who knows but i i still think you've seen this yourself uh it's it's online online yeah i've seen those yeah yeah but um i think devon henny is a a great fighter you can't you can't deny his uh his record right uh i think young is undisputed if i'm not but did he get that he got his o back because of the i don't know but there's there's some other things that that people's respect i think is is something different i feel like look if you're okay if he's okay with who he is looking in the mirror, then cool. But me, looking at myself in the mirror, we're all different, right?
Starting point is 00:42:59 If I look at myself in the mirror and I can't live with that, then I can't. Yeah, he got a lot of shade after that. Yeah, for sure. Every time I see him post, he still gets a shade. For sure, for sure. They're putting Ryan Gifts and all that.
Starting point is 00:43:13 It's insane. The internet has made, it also made it a lot more entertaining. For sure. The hype up, the builder. Yeah. Like the interviews they did were so funny, bro. Yeah, they were.
Starting point is 00:43:23 man yeah they were even the press conference um like oscar de lojia says something and i think ryan was like uh saying something like no ditty or like like like hey like it's just so unserious bro ryan's funny but it's funny it's funny it's right's funny for sure so you so you don't really take the supplement thing serious not yet no i just i don't want to mess with it because i don't want to you know what i'm saying i don't that's the last thing i need you Maybe you feel like you maybe then rely on it or like if you don't do it right, it'll fuck you up. Maybe. Like I feel like if you maybe you take a little too much, maybe you take it.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Because it's like that, bro. Like and then I'm fighting in different states. So it's, you know, I don't know. Like I don't know what the regulations are. You know. So like some states you can smoke weed. Some states you can't. That's why.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Who was it? I think it was Keishon. Did he strip them? something and they find him he was he was he got tested positive for that i don't know but it's like that that's not going to make you better at boxing i mean you worse i don't know that that one's silly i think because that's going to make you it's not going to it's definitely not enhancing you yeah you know especially not boxing might make you make music better or something but yeah bro we'll hop in the studio minus the yeah you know so so okay perspective on other fights this this
Starting point is 00:44:49 This Dravonta Davis and Jake Paul fight, right? Explain this to me. Not in basketball terms. It's just such a funny internet game. Explain us to me like a third grader. What is an exhibition fight? I don't even know, bro. I'll be real with you.
Starting point is 00:45:06 All I know is that Jake is making, I don't know. God damn. God bless Jake, bro, because this is what he figured out. He figured out this. He figured out boxing is all about attention. a hundred percent and and and he went from disney to you know getting paid what i told you world champions that have dedicated their whole life to this sport yeah they will never get paid not even a percentage of what he's making yeah but because attention brings dollars it doesn't
Starting point is 00:45:39 matter if it's a podcast if it's a movie premiere if it's boxing if there's no no attention on it you're not going to make no money for this is like the w nba conference that's why they don't make the money because they don't have the attention no for sure for sure Sure, for sure. I was at the WMBA yesterday. That shit was like lit, bro. It was lit? I was shopping up with it.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Floyd was there. It was good? People were, people, they won by like, I think one or two points. But I was like, I was, I was standing up and I was jumping, you know, it's the finals, though. Yeah. It's the finals. So all that aside, I just feel like, Javonti could crack, though, bro. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 00:46:18 So this is what I want. He sparred light heavyweights and heavyweights before. Like, this ain't nothing new. Even taller guys. For sure. Yeah, so what I really want to ask you in regard to that fight is like, obviously someone like Javante is not, in his mind, he's not going to go out there and look stupid, no matter how it goes.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Right. No, he's not. But that's what I, when I see, it's an exhibition fight. I'm like, what is, what does that mean? And you can still get knocked out. You know, I feel like, um, that means there's not going to be no winner. effect on the record yeah that's exactly what it means but you could get knocked out so you don't think because like you know the the the the beef now is like this shit's the wwee that's what people
Starting point is 00:47:01 say about boxing i mean like you're completely right about jake and what he's done it's insane yeah but they he'll get the w w this is just like what is this do you see it that way god bless him bro god bless hey call my fights wwee fights whatever you want to call it if i'm getting paid 80 100 million dollars i mean come on bro and look the thing is every single person that is commenting that they brought a hundred million dollar check in front of you oh i'm fighting oh i'm fighting anyone bro that's what i'm saying i'm fighting anyone like come on you don't give me that bullshit oh well you know you lost the loyal fan and you come on bro yeah i'm fighting anyone in the world for that that's what i'm saying what the fuck that's what i'm saying so now but think about this so he's not
Starting point is 00:47:44 just the fighter he's the promoter yeah so he's getting ticket sales he's getting part of the pay-per-view he's getting um concession he's getting beer he's getting merch yeah it's it's it's ridiculous no he's i mean he's fucking smart god damn hey let's fight next bro god damn yeah you're like give me on that card yeah real talk because that like i i i saw somewhere and i don't know if this is true or not but they said gervantes was going to get a hundred million to do this fight uh because that's insane i think i mean look you got to get sotty to do that who knows who knows who knows who knows i mean whether i mean because people are going to watch that bro i i Maybe it's projected, maybe it's a, have to do with pay-per-view numbers.
Starting point is 00:48:24 That's the best part about the Jake Paul fight, to my opinion, is everyone talks shit. Yeah, but they're going to watch it. But you're going to watch that fucking fight. For sure. It's like he took what Floyd did because people didn't want to watch Floyd to see him win. Oh, yeah, towards enemy's career there, we're waiting to see him lose. You were, you tuned in because you thought Manny Pacchio was going to obliterate Floyd. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:44 You thought my Donna in the second rematch was going to, you know, obliterate Floyd. Well, not obliterate Floyd. but giving him a harder time than he did the first time. Yeah. You know, so that's the thing. My respects to Floyd, because he's always been on point, always been on shape, you know.
Starting point is 00:48:59 So, yeah, bro, I mean. So who do you think wins that, Jervantza versus Jake? I mean, there's no winner, exhibition. Who do you think? Outwardly. I see Javante getting hit with something, and he just gets mad, bro.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Because he can't control his temper sometimes from what I've seen, you know, and I think I think he'll try to put it on. Do you think that ends in a knockout? Ah, fuck. That would be insane. It would be insane, bro.
Starting point is 00:49:27 It would be insane. People are gonna watch it regardless. I know. I'm excited for it. Hey, so am I. I want to be there. But it got, so it was supposed to be what,
Starting point is 00:49:34 in Georgia first or something and they said no because of like the sanctions, I think, because of the weight category. Exhibition and all that. Yeah, for sure. Because he's like,
Starting point is 00:49:42 Jake's like... Look, the thing is, him and his brother are natural athletes, though. You know, like even they used to do wrestling they used to do like all that like i think to what is it a national level or state or i'm not sure you're talking about you're talking about the pauls yeah uh yeah the wrestling yeah i'm not sure what level they did it at yeah but yeah they're i mean i mean i mean i mean logan's
Starting point is 00:50:01 flying yeah that's what i'm saying i thought that guy at my fucking gym you're lying i'm actually yeah yeah get the fuck out of here yeah i got tired i got tired wait that was the one that was off camera right yeah yeah yeah just like this you're lying fist i'm not lying fist straight up you don't want to like little teaser like no no no that's why you did off camera but I was about it up camera I was about it that's what's up bro
Starting point is 00:50:28 fuck it she's a big motherfucker too yeah yeah athlete in shape have you ever trained boxing I have but not not like not like you not consistent enough I've trained moitai I've trained you know jujitsu I've trained enough
Starting point is 00:50:43 for me it was just like specifically at the time no gas zero gas for that so it was just like you know yeah because that's everything you were like it was full street fight like straight straight street fight yeah wow on the mats in the corner of the fuck out of your bro yeah i've never been here bro i gotta come yeah i gotta check it out i'm i'm real um who always invited me is uh Felipe and uh Diego yeah it's my boys I love those motherfuckers bro come train whenever yeah I'm uh I stay in um so now like I told you we used to live in Camerillo
Starting point is 00:51:17 I love to go down there When I'm not boxing Love to go down at the airport cafe there You know Driving past You know Our old house And
Starting point is 00:51:28 It's different Right It's different So I like going down there And just Enjoying it Like I live there You know
Starting point is 00:51:37 So We'll be down there We'll be down there Yeah you got to come out to Have you ever been in a street fight? I have in high school Yeah I have in high school
Starting point is 00:51:44 Only like a handful of times Just That's kind of OPE. With social media, people like, they want to see what's up. But you're like kind of, like, it's kind of not fair, huh? That's not fair for you. It wasn't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:54 It wasn't, bro. Like, even my little sister, even elementary school, you remember, like, pieces dude up, boom. And, you know, now me and her running home, like, together, you know? And we, we didn't have to, but we, like, rushed home and we turned on the TV, you made sure, like, everything was okay. Like, it was going to be able to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, shit like that. But, you know, my mom comes in and, like, we're, like, all being nervous. Like, bro, like, she don't even have a clue of what happened, you know?
Starting point is 00:52:25 So, yeah, I'm real close with my sister, her, by the way. She's 18. She's beautiful. She has three older brothers protecting her. My dad, like, bro, is, yeah. I like how you said that's so funny. She's 18, she's beautiful. She's got three other brothers.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Yeah, real time. Stay in a fuck away, bitch. Yeah, my motherfuck is on here, y'all. You know, I'm not even. You can say your name. No, fair, fair. What do you do outside of boxing, actually? What do I do?
Starting point is 00:52:53 Like, you play any video games? Do you have like a life outside of it? For sure, for sure. I think, honestly, staying busy. I like to stay busy with, you know, I have my sunglass brand. It's called Segrov sunglasses. I think I left them in the car just because of the fact. Yeah, you got to bring some.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Yeah, yeah. It'sagraffsunglasses.com. I always wear sunglasses just because of the fact that I do my press conferences. I do all that actually we're crushing that so I'm very very happy about that Charles is helping me with that I want to do put it into retail so we're working on that I think I have then we hit like I don't know if it was like 20 20 thousand orders or something like that nice just in the last two years the last two years but you know I like I like you know Things from my life, I like putting it towards things that I use every day.
Starting point is 00:53:49 You know, like the sunglasses. It's genuine that. Yeah, for sure. I'm not, I'm not going to endorse anything that I'm not, right? Also, too, you know, just real estate, love real estate. I'm buying my second investment property after this fight. So just, I have great people around me, you know, and I honestly love being with my family. I know myself
Starting point is 00:54:15 And I know that if I'm not Busy, I'll get in trouble I'll be real with you, bro You know, so My girl, she keeps me at home Yeah, this was going to ask you that How is that balancing? It's tough.
Starting point is 00:54:31 It's tough. Just because of the fact that You know, with everything that I got going on And Let me rephrase that better it's it's she makes things easier for me right and sometimes me being away or me uh we always meet each other you know we always uh she's i've known her since i've been 15 you know it's like a love story she's seen the whole process yeah uh she's i used to pick her up in um a beat up nissan with
Starting point is 00:55:04 windshield broken i i brought a speaker in there because the radio didn't work uh and i turned that motherfucker up because it'd be squeaking like a motherfucker. The car? Yeah, real talk. So she's seen this whole process and, you know, she's going with me everywhere I go and, you know, I love to give her flowers as well because she makes everything so much easier for me, right? Yeah, that's a good relationship. Also, too, you know, like with my father and my mother, my dad never let my mom go to college
Starting point is 00:55:36 just because she had to be at home. And it was kind of like this machismo thing, but like I'm pushing her to do everything. everything and more yeah you know so um you know she's she's very driven she's very focused uh she's uh she's just awesome fucking make me uh Halloween baskets like we're like 14 still and like just she's awesome you know and um I really feel like I wouldn't be as focused or as um you know if it wasn't for her yeah makes things easier sounds like you found a real one yeah for sure it's hard. That's hard to find, I think. Definitely. Especially with everything going on and, you know, she's, yeah, she's the best for sure. Social media, man, yeah. It's a motherfucker, bro.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Yeah. Now you got girls putting up AI photos and me and them and, you know, girls hitting her up. And this is the part that I've said is tough because just spiteful women will hit her up, like, oh, blah, blah, blah, we're doing this. He was just with me, like, yeah. So, you know, it's just oh he was with me last night and we were sleeping together like you know or it's just it's you get shit like that it's tough bro it's tough it's tough but you weren't sleeping there no yeah yeah no for sure but you know she is tough that's what i'm saying it's very tough you know and and she never signed up for that yeah he tells me like i didn't sign up for that and of course she's it's hard right she's gonna go through but she's learning as well and she's growing you know
Starting point is 00:57:08 because you can't ask relationship advice her from anybody because they're not in the relationship that we're in yeah it's very unique very difference out there it's you know that's why for me i i've always for my my relationships i've always kept it off the internet because you open it up to so much criticism from the outside and then she's going to read the comment that says oh this and that and then maybe internalize it and making something that it's not and then you're arguing about Yeah, then you argue about some shit that's not even real. For sure. And that's got to be tough being young and dealing with that, even tougher.
Starting point is 00:57:42 For sure. And also, too, I just think that, you know, I'm learning and grown as well. I feel like, you know, understanding the value of a good woman is the most important thing. It's like choosing, you know, short-term satisfaction for long-term, you know. And I feel like as a young man, you grow and you learn and you make the right decisions. Yeah. That's something I wish I recognized sooner, like just in my own personal life. A woman in your life can really make or break you.
Starting point is 00:58:18 For sure. Because it's just because of the, I don't even think people recognize how much of like the energy, the mental sort of stress they can put on you trying to like make a situation better. Not that it's bad, but like when things come up, just dealing with it. And if you have the right person that can deal. with you in a way that's not just like fucking up your schedule your time your energy trying in three times a day you know coming home and you're arguing it don't work like that and my thing is this you allow this this is to everybody watching you allow what you allow in your life like i'm not
Starting point is 00:58:50 gonna even if i wasn't to be with her and i were to be single you know i'm not gonna allow a chick to come in and be screaming at me and doing this and on the phone like i'm clicking on you I don't have the energy for that, right? Yeah. Just because of the fact that my time is spent in all my training and the business portion and, you know, making sure I'm on top of my contracts and making sure because of the fact that I will never let
Starting point is 00:59:18 what happened in my father's career, happen in my career. So that's what taught you that. For sure. Yeah. For sure. I think also, too, like I said, with my father's career, the discipline.
Starting point is 00:59:28 He was drinking. You know, he was partying. he was out there running a mug and he you know but that caused him to lose focus of what got him to where he got to and he he says that all the time on me if he didn't drink right but that's that's a lot to say because my dad was the youngest ever um olympian in history yeah in boxing in history um youngest ever junior middleweight champion of the world in history you know so he did everything so fast that you know your young kid you give him money and it's like you know it's it's a very and you say he grew up without a father he grew up without a father yeah this is like a
Starting point is 01:00:09 this is like a perfect story man yeah and that's what I'm saying it's like uh that's that's what we're working on the reality that's what life's really about for sure like that yeah and but even that process from father to son like to learn from those mistakes you become a better version I wouldn't be where I'm after wasn't from my father yeah I'll tell you that for sure and of course my mother I say that all the time right but genuinely that whole process
Starting point is 01:00:32 like even as a fighter and we're going back to you know the peaking fight night or everything that he did or you know even the fucking before a fight
Starting point is 01:00:44 yeah you know just that whole stigma and my dad will tell my brother's like I'm telling you do a month before you know me and my brother's like oh well Connello said two weeks before you know but he goes motherfucker you're gonna learn you know so so you do a whole month no
Starting point is 01:01:03 sex before the fight i do two weeks so you listen to canello i do two weeks you know it's like dad if it worked for him you know it's like but i think look and and uh i think crawford said this look if you want to be out there and you want to fuck like a porn star and you're doing tricks and you're doing you know you're picking her up and you're your life's gonna get tired bro you're gonna tired, right? You know, you're going round after round and you're going on night. Like, you're going to get tired, bro, right? But you let her do her thing and she needs to shit. And she understands the schedule and she knows that you got to be up to go run in the morning and she better not be, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:40 on them legs like that. So two weeks is kind of vanilla. I think so. And then, I mean, it's, and then after the celebratory. Yeah, for sure. All night. All night, love. It's so funny, man. I get it, though. I mean, that's a lot of energy. It is. The second. sexual energy, anything. I don't think people recognize how powerful that is. It is. Like to go towards your actual...
Starting point is 01:02:00 But if I would be so real with you, like, the last two weeks, I feel like I'm so zeroed in. I don't even think about it. Yeah. Because, like, through... Ever since you get a fight date, for me, more so. It's like I had this pressure on me, right? Or some sort of, not anxiety, but, like,
Starting point is 01:02:26 you understand a motherfucker is training to kill you bro that's really what it is he's training to take my health away yeah and if he could he would yeah right if he could tower over my body as i'm knocked out on the floor he would yeah so i don't care if you what your record is there's been fighters that especially you know we're supposed to win and get knocked out you know and you're their first knockout and you were the uh... talented prospect and you were this i believe anybody with eight ounce gloves has a chance yeah and it only takes one shot bro and and it only takes for me to be on focus for one second you know so i just feel like the last two weeks i'm so zeroed in just because of the fact that i understand
Starting point is 01:03:14 everything that i'm playing with my life in there you know like like honestly i think what makes me trained so hard is embarrassment. I don't want to get embarrassed in front of my family critics. I don't want people to sit there and be like, see, I told you. Yeah. I told you he was going to lose. See, I told you he was all right. I told you, you know, I believe this. If you lose on the biggest stage, it doesn't matter. Yeah, I see what you're saying. It doesn't matter. As a winner, of course, it hurts. But I'm saying in the sport of boxing, you cannot lose on the way up. Yeah, I get it. You cannot. Because, I mean, look, UFC, they got motherfuckers fighting.
Starting point is 01:03:57 And you're the best fight the best, and that's the way it's supposed to be. But the motto in boxing, right, your first couple of fights, you get that experience. But to a certain point, when you're fighting the best of the best and people understand you're finding the best of the best, it doesn't matter. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So, and especially too, you're walking with a $30 million check, it doesn't fucking matter.
Starting point is 01:04:18 It doesn't fucking matter, right? That's real, though. No, so boxing has always kind of been that it's like they're not like babying the fighters but it's like it's sort of like this slow build for sure because I mean look it is what it is I'm like I'm not here trying to uh how should I say this reinvent the wheel like my promotional company top rank their first fighter was Muhammad Ali and they've been in the business maybe 50 60 70 years so and they had Chavez and they've had Oscar Delahoya and they had Sugar Ray Leonard and they had Marvin Hagler and they've had-Leges. All of them, yeah. They didn't just have champions. They had legends.
Starting point is 01:05:02 So they send the contracts. All I do is sign them. Cool. All right. You say this is the next guy for me to go up in the ranks? Cool. I'll find him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:13 That's where I am right now. And a lot of people, I get a lot of criticism because it's like, you know, oh, well, when are you going to find a real? For a real fighter, they're talking about one with the name that's already established who's a world champion, a Pipple Cruz, Ryan, they did the same thing that I'm doing. Yes. Fighting the people that they need a fight to have the belt, right? I just won the NABF title two fights ago.
Starting point is 01:05:43 So now I'm ranked top 15 in the world. So that puts me in line to fight for the WBC, the green belt. Yeah. So my next fight, I'm fighting for the WBL Continental. So that means another belt. I'm getting ranked in that belt. So that means if an opportunity comes, I can fight for either belt for the world championship. So I'm fighting whoever they put in front of me.
Starting point is 01:06:05 You can ask anybody or even my matchmakers. I'm not denied not one person. Oh, well, this guy's a little tougher, but this guy will get you. Cool. Let's take that guy. Cool. Look, well, here's tape on him. here's cool that's the guy that's the guy yeah give me the tape after i watch it we'll do our
Starting point is 01:06:25 homework okay we understand we're fighting a south pole we're fighting orthodox we're fighting you know um a guy who fights with a shoulder roll a guy who's a little herky jerky so now you train for whatever style you're fighting how much of that stuff do you watch um how much of my other my other opponent yeah um i watch it at least once every day or for eight, nine weeks. And when do, like, when do you think you'll start getting those fights that are like, yo, this is like, this is the fight?
Starting point is 01:07:00 Three to four fights, I'm fighting for a world title. So in three to four more fights? Three to four more fights, I'm fighting for a world title. And whoever they put, once I'm a world champion, I can fight anybody else. So line them up.
Starting point is 01:07:11 You know, and like I said, I'm a fighter. So I'll fight anybody, you know. But the thing is, is my father going to have, you know, his say or for sure? And I listen to his voice of reason because he's my father, right? And he's my trainer. And he knows better than me what he thinks I'm ready for, right? I feel like I could be King Kong. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Because that's the mindset that I have, right? But he's my trainer. He knows me. My matchmakers, they understand, you know, obviously this guy. then it comes down to the money you have a bigger opportunity for money here maybe not for a belt
Starting point is 01:07:54 but we can fight him so it goes into these different things right but for me that what I'm focused on is become a world champion like Ryan he's not world champion and he's never been world champion minus when he fought Devin Hennie he would have picked up all those belts
Starting point is 01:08:10 but they overturned it but he's never became world champion but he's making millions of dollars right so i just feel like well that's the popularity side of yeah yeah for sure i think honestly um not that he's not a great fighter but he's a great fighter yeah he's a great fighter um you know he wouldn't be where he's at if he wasn't a great fighter you know he dedicated his life to uh the sport and i feel like now you know uh whether he decides to continue to be dedicated and that's any fighter honestly you make it to a certain point you decide whether you continue to be dedicated
Starting point is 01:08:45 or not. That's why I give so much credit to Canelo and Floyd because continuously you're chasing and continuously you already have 300, 400, 800 million dollars in the bank and you're still waking up to go run. You're still. You still have that attitude. Bro. Like you're broke. And it's easy to say. It's easy to say because I've had to check myself too. You know, like, okay, maybe we push my run a little later. Maybe, you know, once you, you start negotiating with yourself you already lost yeah fuck that fuck that makes so much fucking sense you know but but i'll be rude with you but the people that i have around me too i only have winners around me because guess what i hop on the phone or or even my little
Starting point is 01:09:30 fucking sister bro we're walking into the gym and i'm dead tired i'm on my this is going to be my fourth workout of the day i already did boxing i did the strength and conditioning i already did another boxing session um and i'm about to hit my run i'm done um we're walking in and she goes well your opponent already ran today and i'm like oh you so you so you do really think it obviously it's individual because when you fight it's you right but you think your your your kind of like circle is probably as equally as important you are who you surround yourself with yeah you know I talk consistently. One of my best friends, he's a, he's a 50-year-old billionaire for three Bs.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Yeah. He, he's the, I should I say this, the biggest operating gym owner in the world. It's called World Gym in Asia. His name's Michael Sinciprian. Yeah. Bad motherfucker, but his mindset is sick, bro. Like I'm talking about, he gets two. hours asleep. Like he started here in Camarillo, opened up a gym, you know, uh, he met my dad
Starting point is 01:10:47 actually, uh, when he was finding for Oscar, let my dad train at his gym. They exchanged for tickets and, you know, they kept the relationship. And then all of a sudden, this guy says, I'm going to Asia. I'm opening gyms in Asia. And my mom and dad were like, fighting gyms? Just fitness gyms. Yeah, okay. Like, my, my man, this motherfucker's fucking crazy. Like, goes over there, he owns 580 gyms in Asia. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Did it? Bro, he's, he's, he's white Cuban. I got to talk to this guy. Yeah, he's, fucking get the Asian to do that shit. Bro, learn the language. You're talking about doing contracts in another language, bro. Like, just think about that whole process. Like, already complicated enough in English.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Yep. Yeah. Damn. Yeah, so. Yeah, bro. So he's one of my best friends I conversate with him every day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:43 And for me and him, like, there's no choice but to win. Like even, even, so him and my dad were friends and he actually donated to my, we opened up a gym during that process when I was a kid. And we weren't making no money. It was a nonprofit.
Starting point is 01:12:06 we were charging 20 bucks a membership 30 bucks yeah like not even a dollar a day bro it was in the hood I didn't want to put it in the hood because his gym was in the hood but that isn't gonna make you no money right so he donates like 50 racks to the gym and that's partially how I was able to get to tournaments I didn't know that you yourself me yeah and and the rest of the fighters that we had on our team
Starting point is 01:12:36 yeah and amateur team so fast forward he comes back to Vegas and we meet up we go to his house fucking 12 15 million dollar home fucking ridiculous bro it was the most expensive house to be purchased in in Vegas during COVID um so we go and I'm maybe 14 I mean, you know, I'm still broke, right? Yeah. And I'm just looking at everything. I'm like, what the fuck, bro? Like, I'm seeing Rose Royces, three different roses and Lambo,
Starting point is 01:13:20 the crazy view, like everything, but I'm seeing it. Everybody else is like, you know, having a good time. But I'm seeing that it's tangible. I could touch it. I could see it. I could smell it. I can, you know, like he's really living like this, bro. And I'm thinking like, what the fuck is the difference from this motherfucker from me?
Starting point is 01:13:39 You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm actually trying to process like how someone acquires this, right? And it just, it comes down to discipline as really what it is. It really comes down to discipline and work ethic. And that's the main thing that I learned from him is just that his work ethic is insane, bro. I think it, I think it's also something you, I'm really glad you brought this. up and I'm sorry I interrupted but you said it really specifically um even for yourself you're seeing it you're smelling it you're like how how is this happening tangible I can fucking touch it yeah that this
Starting point is 01:14:18 this that's something for me I could say directly in my life I had experiences like that and it allowed me to believe that this could be possible for me exactly what you said why couldn't I have this and I think that's one of the most powerful things that you can do like it's it's really It comes down to intention. And now I truly believe, like you said, like how you brought up, like, do you feel like your mindset would change if you lost? My thing is this, I'm a winner inside and outside of the ring. You know what I'm saying? And of course, I'm going to take my bumps and my bruises, but I understand that I'm a winner.
Starting point is 01:14:53 And there's no choice but to win. And there's some fighters who only know how to win inside of the ring, but when it comes to outside of the ring, they build nothing and they lose life. Yeah. I'd rather win in life than losing the ring. I mean, you've seen it. So you've also seen that side of it. Yeah. So it kind of makes sense.
Starting point is 01:15:09 It's the culmination of all these things is like where you're headed and who you are. I just feel like, why do I have to wait to be 30 to understand that I can get it now? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't, every opportunity, every post, every, you know, podcast, every interaction, every puts me closer to being where I need to be. you know what i'm saying you're right winning so i feel like i mean that's why i thank you thank you for having me on your podcast i feel like this opens up so many other opportunities for you know the both of us you know i feel like uh understanding your mindset and understanding you as a person and if i
Starting point is 01:15:49 came here and i didn't you know respect you if i didn't you know really like how you were coming up then it'd be different story right because i reciprocate energy i'm a human being if you're a good human being you know you're a good human being if not you're not you know so i just feel like i love business and love winning with people that are great people. You know, just because of all, everything that has happened in, you know, my father's career and everything that's happened, like, I've had old managers and I've had bad experiences and things that, like I said, that I've had to learn as a young man to take my bumps and bruises, but understanding that we got to keep on moving, we got to keep on moving
Starting point is 01:16:27 and learning and growing and, like, if I don't win in the ring, as of right now, if I don't win in the ring, I don't win in life. you know but then but in that process building my own brand you know yeah now to to the to the people listening you know like probably likely men who are going to be watching this who are like you know maybe they want to be boxers or they want to succeed at something right because you at 21 years old to have developed that mentality that you're speaking about and speaking to it is very rare overall in the world right so my question to you is to the people listening how do you think you could tell someone
Starting point is 01:17:05 hey this is how you get over the thought of it couldn't work out for me because it seemed like really quickly you realized this oh I could have this or I could succeed at this level I could live my life like this
Starting point is 01:17:18 because it's rare I understood that I'm not going to be a victim I'm not going to be a victim to poverty I'm not going to be a victim to not being a winner in life I'm not going to be a victim to, you know, not being a genuine good human being. I'm not going to be a victim.
Starting point is 01:17:39 I'm not going to blame it on somebody else. I'm not going to blame it on my circumstances. I'm not going to blame it on, well, it was his fault. And well, it was my dad's fault because he wasted $33 million in his career and because he was undisciplined and because he wanted to be a drunk and because, you know, I'm not going to do that. Because guess what? I'm my own man. And at the end of the day, I lace up the fucking gloves, you know.
Starting point is 01:18:00 And I dedicated my life to this. And I understand that this is going to be my launch pad to do something great in my life. And I know God's plans are greater than my plans. So the plans that I have for myself, his plans are even greater. So I understand all I have to do is dedicate myself for this period of time. And that's actually lie, not a period of time, but just be so disciplined to where, you know, all I have to do is go. Right? Like even become a world champion, I'm three, four fights away from becoming a world champion.
Starting point is 01:18:35 All I have to do is do it. Like when I was an amateur, it seems so far away. But time flies. And by the time you know it, to the people watching this, by the time you know it, you're already at your goal. You do something consistently every single day and something that puts you in the line of where you want to be to your goals and to your dreams and to your aspirations. By the time you know it, you're there. Yeah. By the time you know, you're making six, seven figures, you know, from YouTube or from this and that.
Starting point is 01:19:06 And you didn't even believe that you could. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't even a thing when I started. That's what I'm saying. Like, honestly, you, you're like, what the fuck? Yeah. And then now you understand, like, this is who I am. This is what I do. This is so I feel like you have to stack your wins.
Starting point is 01:19:24 I feel like stacking your wins, if I'm, if I say I'm going to go up again, get up and go run and I do it, that's one win. If I say I'm going to eat clean and I do it, that's another win. And understanding you are who you say you are. So that won't work and you won't have self-belief. If you say that, hey, I'm going to eat clean and I'm going to lose weight and I don't do it. Well, guess what?
Starting point is 01:19:49 I'm a loser. You start telling yourself these things. I'm a loser. You know, I don't keep my word. You know, maybe I'm not that special. Maybe I can't do it. Maybe fear, doubt, everything starts to creep in because you allowed it. And this is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:20:05 You allow what you allow into your life. So if you allow yourself to be a winner and to change your mindset and to understand that, hey, look, I said I was going to do this and I did it. And the biggest compliment in the world to the kids that I went to school with when I was in elementary school, in middle school, in high school. They hit me and they tell me, you did everything you said you were going to do. And that shit gives me fucking goose me. You could. No, like real tough. But guess what?
Starting point is 01:20:38 I'm just getting started, bro. I'm 21 years of age, bro. I'm three, four fights from being a fucking world champion, champion of the world. You know what I'm saying? And I understand that this opportunity puts me in London to fight everybody. And like I said, I'll fight King Kong. I don't care, bro. But understanding that, one, I have to become more champions.
Starting point is 01:20:58 And a lock-in cabin, three, four, five, says that's maybe six, seven months. Yeah. Six-seven. Anyways, we needed a comedy break, right? Yeah. But a lot could happen in those six, seven months. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:21:14 But I promise you this, I'm not going to pick up fucking alcohol. I'm not going to party. I'm not going to smoke. I'm not going to. All I have to do is be disciplined. Break it up. If it helps you to be, all I'm going to do is be disciplined for today. I don't have to drink today
Starting point is 01:21:30 Okay, I drank yesterday I'm not gonna drink today Okay, I smoke yesterday I'm not gonna drink today I smoked right now I'm not gonna smoke again Put it down What's the point of it?
Starting point is 01:21:40 I mean look if it makes you millions of dollars And you're in the cannabis industry Handel right right If you're you know If you're successful Fine But at the end of the day You gotta understand that
Starting point is 01:21:52 Maybe those things ruin relationships You just gotta define What's gonna actually make you better Yeah for sure What you said was really cool man about people telling you you did everything you said you're going to do honestly when people tell me that that's the biggest motivation ever i've had a lot of moments like that in my life too it's like just the idea of believing who you are before you are that person to everyone else
Starting point is 01:22:12 and everybody thinks you're crazy 100% and everybody i'm sure people laughed at me and people who does he think he is he don't he thinks he's better than us he does uh because he doesn't drink or because he doesn't smoke or because he's going to the gym i'm sure but that's where that point, I don't give a flying fuck what you think about me. Yeah. I don't because guess what? I'm going to continue to win. And those habits make you who you are. You're not who you say you are. You're what you do. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So if I say that, you know, I'm a good person, but, you know, I'm being addicted to this person or, you know, I'm not, it doesn't add up. Yeah. You're what you do. So I've learned that. I've learned that. And like I said, I have great
Starting point is 01:22:53 people around me like you know um so many great people around me that you know just want to see me win and obviously want to be around other winners you know so i'm just i'm very grateful i understand that i'm very close to becoming a world champion and um you know in maybe a year you guys are going to come back to this and and and i'm telling you who i'm going to be i'm going to be a world champion multiple times you know and um i know that yeah like even as an amateur i people bargus's son is gonna like they thought it was cute bro like yeah i promise you and the funny thing is all these motherfuckers bro that were amateurs and i looked up to and i would go to their boxing gyms and how to get my fucking ass kicked bro i'd get my ass kick because they
Starting point is 01:23:46 had so much more experience than me and oh i'm fucking up vargas's son and they They really in their head they were fucking up my dad. Yeah. Oh, Vargas, so I grew up with that and I'd come back. They kicked my ass again. And I'd come back and they kick my ass a little less. And I come back. Okay, I'm touching this motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Okay, I come back. This motherfucker's face is bloody than a motherfucker. Okay, I come back. You don't want to spar with me no more. You know what I'm saying? It's beautiful. So that's the whole part of. of life and boxing that I feel like I've correlated is that
Starting point is 01:24:26 one you're going to take your bumps and bruises two you are who you say you are right if you stack those wins I can't go to fight night and be fully confident in myself and walk out into my next fight's going to be in a 20,000 seat arena yeah I can't walk out to a 20,000 seat arena and make that walk bro you don't imagine the fucking nerves
Starting point is 01:24:53 going through that fucking hallway motherfuckers would turn around and go back like I literally physically thought this as I'm walking out this is one of my beginning fights one of my first fights on ESPN you know I'm blowing this up I'm 18 years old at the time
Starting point is 01:25:08 I'm blowing this fuck I'm fighting on ESPN fuck uh my family's in the stands I got you know it's in Vegas hometown crowd like okay fuck like okay now they're they're helping me up on Bargis's son Like I have to perform. I have to make a statement.
Starting point is 01:25:23 I understood I had to make a fucking statement. Yeah. Like even training, even building up. I was like, cool. All right. Gotta go. Like nobody can, I can't be like, hey, dad. Like, I actually, I can, can we just go back?
Starting point is 01:25:38 Like, I don't want to fight today. No, my motherfucker, you signed the contract. You made the weight. You have a promotional company behind you that put up the money for you to go. You have to fight. The only way you're leaving this arena is a winner. Or a loser. But for me, I'm leaving a fucking winner.
Starting point is 01:25:54 You know what I'm saying? So understanding that, like, there's no going back, bro. So you go up there. As soon as they get into the ring, all my nerves gone. I knock this motherfucker out in the second round. But in that, I got caught with a couple shots. And it's funny seeing my family in the crowd is like, oh, fucking jumping up and fucking, you know, because you go from an amateur style, you're okay with getting hit because you're funny
Starting point is 01:26:19 with 10, 12. bounce gloves and you know you have the headgear and you guys are like pity patting for points no you're a pro motherfuckers want to knock you out yeah they're saying they're saying like and also too with being a pro people don't want to see points pro people don't want to see i want to see i want by decision i want by this no fuck that they want to see you ripping motherfuckers heads off yeah you know so i'm like okay boom he caught me whatever i go to second round i'm like okay all right be smart i got to do my thing i used to fight with my hands down so low and be like cute and like bro i'm here bro i got my hands up i'm growing i'm learning i'm learning
Starting point is 01:26:59 on the job too right yeah i get older as a pro but um i knock this motherfucker out in the second round and it was like a highlight real type of thing it went for a candidate of knockout of the year um you know but i i said that in my mind this is going to be a statement and i let everyone know that bar Emiliano Vargas is here not just Vargas's son you know so I feel like every fight I can't just win I have to perform
Starting point is 01:27:29 you know I can't I can't just win by decision what's your hardest fight to date my hardest fight to date I would have to say I have two I have two just because of the fact
Starting point is 01:27:43 one I broke my right hand I don't know if you guys could see a little bump right there I don't know if you can see that yeah yeah Uh, I broke it in the sixth round. This was last September, last year. Hit him on the top of his head.
Starting point is 01:28:00 I go back to the corner. I'm like, dad, like, I think I hurt my hand. Uh, it was like, okay, just be careful with it. Boom. Boom. I hit him with the same punch, a right hand over the top on his head. And, bro, right away. I knew I broke it.
Starting point is 01:28:17 I shaked it like a motherfucker. I was like, oh. Oh, my, bro, it hurts so bad. My dad in the corner is like, don't fucking show it. Don't show it. I'm like, bro, like that shit hurt like a motherfucker. Much it broke. Yeah, my shit's broken.
Starting point is 01:28:32 Luckily, by the grace of God, bro. I fight orthodox. So I hit him with the right hand. I broke it. So I turn south on now. So now my hurt hand is in the front because I'm touching. Now I'm touching. I'm not loading up.
Starting point is 01:28:47 So I'm touching. Boom. I hit him with a shot. to the body because I know it's soft with my her hand hit him there I hit him with um a left to the body he throws the right hand I slip and with this hand I fuck a bro I throw everything into this motherfucker I throw it I knock him up how how you haven't trained much though that that way uh I fight both okay orthodox and sell okay so I think that's a beautiful thing like my dad has prepared me and part of the whole amateur system that
Starting point is 01:29:19 that's so important is that I've lost to an amateur I mean I've lost to a self-ball as an amateur so I'm like as a kid I want to fight like a self-ball so we spar nothing but cell-balls and I learned how to fight as a sample okay I lost to a taller guy I want to spar nothing but taller fighters so I know how to fight in the inside okay I fought a boxer who just moves and I need to spark nothing but you know what I'm saying yeah absolutely I've grown and I've learned and added things to my game and um training with world champions and spart and so i feel like this whole process has really helped me out and i feel like i'm still learning i feel like i won't
Starting point is 01:30:00 stop learning until i'm retired you know what's the hardest part what do you think for you is the hardest part of boxing like what aspect of it um the hardest part this is like timing is like positioning i think um the hardest part i think endurance shit all that kind of stuff probably endurance i think i think even even in uh as a as a young fighter you got to learn how to pace yourself that's why florid was so great because of the fact that he understood some fighters are front runners it doesn't matter how much experience you have you could blow your load in the first three rounds yeah in a 12 round fight and some fighters are six rounds fighters some rounds are eight some fighters are eight round fighters some fighters are 12 round fighters you know so you're only good for
Starting point is 01:30:46 four rounds you're only good for six rounds you're only good but you have a whole another 30 you have the fight's 36 minutes you know at mma i think it's five rounds of five minutes 25 minutes yeah depending on what type of fight championship yeah that's what i'm saying so that's the max you're finding but i mean those motherfuckers are elbowing and kicking and crazy drowning each other on the ground yeah bro for peanuts crazy yeah uh my respects to him bro But, you know, some fighters are only good for it. That's why I love sparring because motherfuckers, they'll bring it, bro, right? Because then now, you know, I got a little, I'm growing a name behind me and they want to, you know, clip me.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Prove a little point. Yeah, sure, sure, in front of their coach, whatever. And they're coming. Boom, boom, boom. I'm on the robes. I'm catching shots. It's funny because it's sparring. Sparring is supposed to be.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Right. That's my whole point. It's funny. That's my whole point. I match energy, bro. Like, I'm there, I practice things. I'll do a whole sparring South Paul.
Starting point is 01:31:52 I'll do a whole sparring, you know, working on the shoulder roll. I'm learning, right? I'm getting better in my game. But a motherfucker just, you're coming. Okay,
Starting point is 01:31:59 this is a fight. Perfect. Excellent. I love that. My favorite part of a sparring and a fight is when both of you motherfuckers are going. Boom. Boom.
Starting point is 01:32:10 And their faces like this. Like, they're angry and they're, they're, I'll do it to the camera. like this like you're fucking they're going and thrown with you and then you clip them with one shot in between and then they go from this and go have you ever felt that way and they start backing up have i felt that way no i haven't gotten one time have i been like that no i just got clip one time
Starting point is 01:32:36 with uh horrid linaris i was maybe 17 years old the only time i've ever been um rattled right uh It felt like the television, like, kind of like, oh, okay, cool. Like, what the fuck? So I'm on the inside. We're fighting with thrown. And I pull back, like a dumb ass. Okay? I pull back.
Starting point is 01:33:00 And right there, bing, he hits me just with the right, quick right hand. It wasn't even, it was really hard. But because I didn't see it, the punch that hurts you is the one that you don't see. I know. Why is that a thing? Why is that the thing? I think your nervous system isn't ready for it. Yeah, not ready to take it.
Starting point is 01:33:15 It's not. You're able to brace this. up like okay I understand that I'm getting hit yeah so that's always the punch that knocks people out so you know what's funny uh I'll finish this and I'll go into it anyways uh the round just started clipped me with that and he we had like two minutes and 30 seconds left in the round and he you know some more champions they let off this motherfucker was on me like trying to get me out of there knock me out but I thanked them for it after because after 10 15 seconds after I was boxing and moving
Starting point is 01:33:48 and I understand like okay fuck like you know it was still a little shaky I understood that if that were it ever happened in a fight I'd be okay yeah you could recover I'd rather do that in in
Starting point is 01:33:59 training than I would in a fight because you know I already showed myself that I could do that I could recover and then we still spar three rounds after that so going back to the punch that you don't see one of my fights at the
Starting point is 01:34:15 one of my last three fights I think it was in March it was like a highlight real knockout fucking I clipped this motherfucker I throw my left hook I throw a right hand
Starting point is 01:34:27 I duck over his I throw my left hook and I knock him out anyways he talks to me in the end I show him love I thanked him for
Starting point is 01:34:38 obviously preparing himself cutting in the weight being a professional doing the whole thing was the most experienced fighter that I fought here I had like 25 fights. I think he had like only five losses.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Knockout ratio of like 80%. Yeah. So he had a power. So it was a step up for me. And I got him out of there in two rounds. But he goes, I didn't see your right hand. And I'm like thinking, I'm like, things are going on. I'm like, oh, thank you, bro.
Starting point is 01:35:05 I appreciate that. You're great. So I go back. I'm like, what punch was it? Did I knock him out with? Because I know it's the left foot. right and they're like yeah you knocked them out with your left so he didn't see my left hook and that's the one that knocked him out yeah he told me it was the right hand that you know
Starting point is 01:35:25 knocked him out but you know they're going to be in my point you know it is so weird though but it makes sense completely yeah like what you described it your your body's not able to brace or it's not it's not and i just think too um like i said the way i prepare myself i i push myself beyond my limits you know i feel like every training camp um i say you know this is the hardest i've ever trained because i push myself to the level if it's another fight i don't have to go to another level yeah to go to another level so um i just i i can't wait for this next one i think we're announcing it uh this upcoming week uh when when is this coming out this will be out tuesday Okay. Okay. So I'll be fighting November 15th in San Luis Potocci, Mexico. I'll be the comment event for top rank. And yeah, in the 20,000 city arena.
Starting point is 01:36:23 When are you fighting out here next? I want to go to the fight. So all, so my last three fights were it was T-Mobile, MGM, and the fight on blue. All my fights are in the U.S. I fought in Miami under the T-Mobile. female card is the last time i've been headed out there but i really just fight in vegas but uh espn's contract just finished up with top rank so they're finding a new home but after this fight uh i should be fighting in next time you fight out in Vegas i would love to bro i'm coming i would love to i get you tickets for sure that'd be dope yeah yeah i want to see that shit in person come on bro yeah yeah you're fucking you're special man my brother i appreciate and you're you're you're very sharp which makes sense you're a great boxer but like you're you're good at speaking you're great at this
Starting point is 01:37:11 shit for real thank you i i i try to you know like i said i i just want to be the best version of myself and i know even like i'm i'm uh practicing and stuff like that just for public speaking i know i'd say a lot of ums and oz and i try to work on things i'm chopping it over chat gbt all the time you know like you know and um no you're great at it man yeah it makes sense it makes sense why you are where you are thank you brother like everything considered everything we spoke about like it seems very clear like your your mind is the most powerful thing for sure we just gotta get it yeah i'm proud of you man thank you brother that means a lot bro 15 and oh fucking crazy knockout percentage thank you brother i got to come to a fight well for sure that's done
Starting point is 01:37:53 hey hey genuinely thank you for coming out thank you for taking the time you're you're i think you're i think you're going to be special in this space for real you already are but i think it's going to be even cooler. I think these next 12 months, 18 months are going to be crazy. I know my fight for a world title. I want to thank every single one of you guys tuning in, especially clicking on this video. Maybe I made you a new fan. Maybe you hate me now. But I love you. So I just want to thank every single one of you guys and just keep on tuning in. Like I said, I'm exactly who I say I am and God has big plans, bigger than mine. So who knows what's going to happen in the next 18 months but I want to thank you guys for tuning in and um thank you bro
Starting point is 01:38:36 for giving me the opportunity to say my story not not even just like you just say it I can feel it though my brother yeah I'm proud of you man for you bro every Tuesday I love you guys subscribe to the channel um big things in store for you brother yeah blessy man you're awesome my dog yeah

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