RAWTALK - Faith Ordway & Sara Saffari Are Official!

Episode Date: June 13, 2023

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Sarah, I feel so far away from you. I know. Can we hold hands at least? Wow, this is so cute. It's just like a new thing that's been going on. Yeah. You guys are going to finally come out and just be like, hey, this is, I'm finally. Why does everything have to be so sexy?

No, I don't know. Why are you sexualizing us? No, I finally made a friend in L.A. How long had been? How long has it been? Well, I guess it's more important to say because it's social media as well, right? Because it's not like you didn't have friends before. Oh.

That was a bad assumption. No, no, no, I have one, I have one friend, like hometown friend, grew up with her. Yeah. But besides that, like being in the scene of L.A. things or events, like the gym, anything like that, I haven't made like a good, like, I've made obviously, like, I'm cordial with everyone. People come and go, though, usually. Yeah. But, like, genuinely with faith, I feel like, I can, like, you know, be myself or like, let her know if I need something or. Why do you think it's so hard to make friends?

Just in general. but i mean i'm kidding in in social media why i think it's so difficult i guess in general as well yeah um no sometimes people make it like a competition or they're not comfortable like being vulnerable with one another you have to like i don't know i feel very like safe and like comfortable with sarah like we both i think stop like really we're both very genuine i think i think we have really good morals and like i think we see each other and each other maybe at least that's how i know Like I see faith as like very much an equal rather than like I'm not like oh I don't respect her like I genuinely respect her yeah like if someone were to ask me about faith I wouldn't

be like oh like she's dope as fuck but like you know she's like oh yeah I have nothing bad to say about Sarah like you like you know what's interesting before because I've I've known about you for a time before I ever really like met you and interacted with you I didn't know what to think of you like and but now that I know you more so because of your relationship with Sarah I'm like, damn, yeah, this is actually like a solid person. No, he was telling you last night how much, you guys have both spoken very highly of each other to me. Yeah, I don't think that I was always like who I am today, though. Like, I think that I definitely can admit I've grown a lot.

Like, never, I was never like a terrible person. Like, I've always had good morals, but I think I've been taught like a lot of lessons in like the last year or two of my life. And I think that I'm continuing to grow and stuff. but I'm really happy with, like, where I'm at right now for sure. What do you think the biggest thing that you've learned? Because you've been doing social for a while and you're really young. Can we pause? It's really funny that she's saying, like, my morals and shit are so good.

She has holding a cup that says eat more ass. Eat more ass. Is that, do you, like, because this was a joke on that stupid TikTok, you guys try to have me found? Oh, yeah. But like, but like, do you eat ass though? No, that's a joke. You know, if I was, like, married for like a solid 10 years and he's like. Married 10 years and he's like.

Yeah, he's like, yo, Bay. Like, you know, let's spice it up a little bit. You know, we've tried XYZ. I hope he's not saying, yo, Bay. I love faith. Why not? But, uh, yeah, I mean, like, I won't close any. Like, you know, I just want to please my man.

If he's marrying me, then that's sweet. And I'm like, all right. You know, he has to eat mine back, though. He's got to eat it back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, Jacob's laughing behind the camera.

Equality. Equality. Yeah. what about that is that something that you need um oh no it is not something i need and i don't think it's something i'd partake in either way either way i value either way i value what faith is saying i respect that i just um i punch him in the face if he tried to ask me or tried to do that you would assault him probably physically you're just like why are you doing that yeah how do you know until you try it no okay fair fair i don't think i would enjoy it like let me say that i think i

would enjoy pleasing my man but like you know like i don't think i'd have a fun time i would make him take a very thorough shower first and shave me i'd rather that'd be like the chafing of the cheeks i would feel bad so like he doesn't have to shave it just make sure there's no like flyways you know fly away trim it trim your hair first and wash it interesting interesting yes what if he has a dingle bear listen we're talking like 10 years of marriage 10 years of marriage it's different all right you know like we just do that for like some you know guy off the street or anything so so let's get back to what you said what was you were saying about you've learned so much like what do you think you've learned the most because that's a hard question because how old are you right now 22 she just

turned 22 you're very young and how long had you been on social media I've been on social media for probably like a long time four or five years yeah she knows the ropes yeah she helps me so what that's 18 I'm really bad with that yeah yeah uh-huh it was like ended my senior year of high school I kind of started like popping off on social media um but I would say honestly like hmm one of my favorite most useful lessons would probably be like this is less involving other people and just me like I'd say more recently I've learned to kind of just like I don't know I don't want to, like, be controversial, but the whole, like, let go, let God thing, you know? Like, I think I used to stress out about a lot of things and the moment that I just started to tell

myself, like, you know, do the best that you can, be a good person, always have good morals, good values, and, like, things will fall into place for you the way that it's supposed to. And that's brought me, like, a lot of peace. And I feel like it's brought me a lot of, like, good people in my life. And, yeah, I mean, that's probably my favorite thing. I think so far that I've really been able to grasp it. And being present. You should be present like all the time.

You know, whenever you take yourself out of the present and you worry about the past or the future, I think that's where you can really just get into bad headspaces. So always just bringing yourself back. I think he needs that advice. Maybe say it again to him. No, no.

It's a great advice. But I think this is the thing I want to ask because like I do this, right? Like I know that so to be true and so to be like extremely important. You both have that toxic trait, both of your friends have the toxic trait of being like like thinking back and being like what if I would have done it differently like this or like what if or like how what if I didn't say that or what if I did this more or X, Y and Z you both I've noticed talking like to both of you guys you have that which I do too but I think about all scenarios and then I'll just drop it though

but I like to think about every possible scenario make sure like okay did I do something wrong here that I need to like look inwards for to like you know do better etc like I just like to make sure I'm understanding my situations that I'm going through but um not pondering too long for sure so here's the question then right because it's like why do like most people know that we should be present and like not focus on those things because like obviously you can't change the past why do you think it's so hard for people to to just do that sometimes I think that they won't get better or that was like, you know, the best that they've had this far of something or, you know, they really enjoyed that experience. They felt cared about in a certain way that they haven't before or,

you know, whatever it is. So I think it's just like an expectation thing. Yeah, because it's like, you know, you're presented with something that brings you all these endorphins and great things. You know, obviously you're going to look at that and be like, oh, wow, you know, like that's really great. And I think people like to stick on to whatever is positive and feels good because, you know, You know, a lot of times life can be hard and like there's a lot of negative that floats around. So I think it's not out of like a bad thing. I think it's just like a natural human response to sometimes. Yeah.

My answer to that, I just want to hear what you had to see. You guys had to say, you can answer two if you want and then I'll give you my take on it. Yes. What was the question? On like why why do you think people, it's so hard for people to like just do that, like be present in the moment, knowing that they should and that's what's important? I think maybe it's because like either. either they are regretful of how things went about or they think that maybe if I would have done X, Y, and Z, this outcome wouldn't have happened.

Maybe if I acted differently, the reaction would have been differently. And they fixate on that thought process because it's like a spiral downwards when you start thinking like that because then one thing leads to another and you just go down this black hole of reminiscing and thinking of different outcomes if there was different actions and different reactions or whatever yeah but like at the end of the day I mean what's done is done yeah you know what's really interesting I've been spending a lot of time just thinking about stuff like this in general in my life like I've realized that I think it comes down to our traumas when we're younger and like the kind of relationships we create with like whether we're talking about losing someone or like

showing up properly in a relationship or being able to like feel like you're worth you know what you want to let's let's say like I want to have a great relationship with you but like I have some sort of, something inside of me much, much deeper somewhere in my past that is like holding me on to like some sort of skewed sense of value, right? Like for example, I growing up losing my father very young and then like seeing other people have things and being like, oh, was I not worth this? Like how come I couldn't have this? And then I created this like connection to like my own self-worth.

And then it affects all like the ways that I show up the rest of my life until I go back. and I look at that more like directly in the now and I go okay this is how I felt then this is the assumption I made then but this is not who I am now and I think it's hard for people to be present because they haven't confronted that part of them that needs to be like looked at and cared for yeah I completely agree with that I was just about to say like you know your past it does like you know it's always going to be a piece of you but I don't think it has to shape like who you are who you're going to be as long as you're you know i think everybody should be looking into themselves and like you know confronting different things you know their past and stuff i think

honestly i don't think there's any like perfect growing up situation to be honest i feel like everybody kind of has some shit that go through you know some people are more open about it some aren't and um yeah i agree completely it's just about being able to confront those things and not you know if you associate it with your whole life like oh well you know this is how i grew up etc and you're able to acknowledge that then you should also be able to like push towards you know moving it into a more positive light yeah like if you can already like justify that yeah well no i did this because like this happened to me right and it's like you're just postponing like learning and like pushing forward yeah like sure whatever happened in the past does like

shape you into the person you are, but you don't have to use it as like a justification or an excuse for why you react to things the way you do or why you handle situations or go about things the way you do. Yeah. You know what I find really interesting that I've been also really thinking about lately is like the like would you guys say that there's been moments in your life and people listening where you like something happens and it feels like just right where you're like, damn, this is exactly kind of what I wanted or like you found yourself in a place where it's

like, how did this happen so perfect? yeah but you can also fall out of that just as fast okay no yeah but i'm just asking you have you ever felt that way where you're like damn this is like this is how this happens so great yeah right the thing that's interesting that can you relate to that yeah yeah i remember no going off that i remember one time i was super happy and you were like so remember how happy you are in this moment because you're not going to feel like this forever oh god the reality check yeah and then now whenever i'm like kind of like sad i'm like trying to like reminisce on that moment that i was so happy and trying to put myself back in that position.

But I remember, I was like, Brad, I'm so happy like this, this and this. And we were at the gym and he was like, you know what? Sarah, remember this moment, okay? Because you're not always going to be this happy. You know, I didn't say it to be like, man. No, but I always do like look back and I was like, wait, I was really happy when this happened eight months ago. Let's try to reconnect with myself.

And this is the thing that I find so interesting is like everyone has moments like that where like this happened exactly as like I wanted it. almost too good to be true, almost like perfect, right? And those moments happen. And then you're just like, wow, this is like, just like this divine timing, right? It's just amazing how this happened. Yeah. And then when things don't go their way, it's like, it's weird because we can accept it when it's good.

But even though oftentimes when it doesn't go our way, there's still some good in there. It just doesn't make sense in the time. But like, we can't say that like this just happened so perfectly and this is amazing and believe that like, wow, this is just like, this divine timing and then this other thing that even though it's really terrible in the moment seems so opposite of divine and good timing because you don't like it but at the same time those are still moments that are like if we're saying this is like something we want and we believe and it happens we have to also understand that it's the opposite of that and that like those moments are just as important as the good ones and when i would talk to you about it was just not so that to be

like you shouldn't be happy we'll just understand yeah like this is the moment and your life's not always going to be this like it's just always great but knowing that you can have those moments and then when you're not in them knowing like okay i can work towards that and i know that it's possible and like i said just being accepting of all of this as as one and not like trying to isolate the things you want and just hold on to it the way you want it because that's also not realistic and it's also not live i agree i think the moment that you start like accepting all experiences like good and bad as just like experiences in themselves like you're learning from everything you're learning more of what you like what you don't like what you need but you know you're learning things

from every single experience so i don't think that you should ever really like i mean there's obviously bad experiences and like it's it's good to like acknowledge that whenever it happens but i think that there's yeah i think that there's always like something that comes out from every scenario if you like allow it to yeah and it's interesting because it all makes us more present yeah the good and the bad yeah that's the thing that so i just i don't know i just been I'm obviously thinking of a lot about this lately personally, but I have a question for you two. You guys are both super young, both in social media. Like, do you see, like, where do you see yourself going as this progresses?

Because it's like, do you see yourself like continuing to making content? Because like you can look at me. I've been doing this for like 12, 13 years. Yeah, but you're a rare case. Like there's probably only a handful of 50-year-olds that are still doing this. I'm under fun. Okay, I'm just saying there's a handful of people that have. have created something like more than just posting content, you know?

Yeah. Whether it's like Christian Guzman or like Seabom or, you know, like there's not a bunch of fitness people that are, that have something more than just like posting content five times a week. So that's what I'm saying. So where do you guys think you're going with it? And we've kind of talked about this before, but like has that perspective changed at all?

For me, I don't know if I don't, I genuinely don't know if I does. desire to own something of my own, but I'm like I'm very okay with working for someone else. I feel like some people are very certain on like, no, like I want to make my own thing and whatever. I mean, if someone else makes it and I can just like hop in and own some equity in it and like help where I can, that'd be great, but it's not, I don't really desire to have something built from the ground up of my own. Yeah, I get it. That's just where I stand.

We'll hire you, Roger, for sure. Perfect. you'd be great i'm already i kind of understand what she's saying with that too like i never really felt as though i had like this crazy big calling i mean i i have had some like aspirations more recently that i would like to maybe act upon in the future like um i thought about maybe opening up like my own have you heard of like sun life yeah like a yeah just like a like a because i mean i incorporate health into my daily life i like eating good i like whatever and sun life also has like a very No promo.

But it has like a little like lifestyle behind of it as well. And like there's a message and I would maybe want to do something like that for me. You know. Started at the gym. I have that space there literally for a juice bar. Dude. I would support it. I would sit dead serious.

I think we should work at the juice bar so we get some. Oh man. You guys would fucking make sales. Yeah. No, but I would love that. Yeah. I'm actually serious. We can talk about off camera but like I mean that's what that's for that space is for a juice bar.

And I've been like literally searching around to it. That would be dope. Yeah. I would love that and I think like just the idea of being able to put in time into like building a business and stuff and like maybe just like making my own like recipes and stuff too I think it'd be cute and like cool and like really and she like enjoys it last time I got so much shit for saying oh I'm not going to cook I'm not going to clean fine I'm open to it guys your comments your comments steered me the wrong way fine I'll fucking learn but don't come at me oh it's okay like you don't have to be mommy yet for her husband you don't got to be mommy yet it comes in phases. Like, I enjoy doing that shit, but I'm not, like, cooking every single night or anything. You know, it's like, I'll be on mommy duty whenever it's time to be on mommy duty. Yeah, that's a different. It's like, you go in that direction, you know, because they're wanting that.

Yeah. Men want that for sure. You know what's weird? I will say, like, in the last probably maybe, like, five months or something, I've noticed, like, a change a little bit in my mindset of me just growing up. And, like, I don't know if maternal is the right word, but I'm definitely feeling myself kind of becoming like woman in a way because I have been more open minded to like now I can kind of like picture like oh yeah like I would like to start a family not yet but like I'm actually starting to like

starts family. Wow. I'm just starting to you know become like a woman where it's like I can start seeing myself now as like one day being like a mom to like beautiful kids and like just having a family and stuff like that and like I've never had like that maternal feeling before and I didn't really think it was going to come to me but yeah as I'm getting older and stuff like I'm starting to feel that a little bit and like so this happened 22 um well I just turned 22 I'd say like end of 21 just turning 22 for guys like for me I started feeling that way when I was like 26 that's sweet yeah I kind of want a family really yeah like that feeling where I was like I could have a family yeah no I feel like 27 is a sweet spot for men to kind of really start like maturing I still feel

like what do you still feel like you like want a family of course absolutely yeah well would I not want one. I've had everything else. But I'm just thinking like if you like decide like you don't want this house anymore, you just want to live in an apartment. I think you should do that and then sell me this house. You love this house. For like a nice, nice cheap price. A nice cheap price. Sell you this house for a next cheap price. This value has gone up. Yeah, I know, but I'm value shmall you. Just like sell it to me under market. Under market. For sure, under, way under. Way under. Way under. Yeah. I like this house though. I want to keep it for a little bit yeah but you're looking at houses i am but this is like literally the ideal

house that i look for this house this literal house is like my ideal house give it to me give it to me you could have a house like this you could yeah i want this one well you can't this is my fucking house okay you are not taking my house no i can't sell it man i love it let's talk about wait let's talk about you let's ask him some questions, bro. Faith, what's something he's always wanted to ask him and never did? Yeah. Let's go ahead.

Because we actually have some, we actually have some heart to hearts. I talked to you like randomly like near the cardio and shit. You're actually, you're actually like, you know, you're there. Yeah. Which is saying a lot for an LA girl. Listen, I'm not, I mean, I'll just say what it is. It is. It's true.

You're actually, you know. And I wasn't, and I'd be honest, like outward, I didn't know until I knew you. I was not expecting it. That's what I was saying earlier, though. Like, I wasn't always like that. I think it took a lot of like, seriously. experiences as well as just having time to myself like I think having time to yourself is like one of the most important things ever for growth and stuff I think that's where you learn a lot

gosh I have to go pee go ahead you can go pee she's very respectful so think of a question though think of questions to ask Bradley on your while you're pissing yeah absolutely yeah yeah I feel like you always have questions for me I do always have questions for you what's appropriate what's not appropriate to ask you you could ask me anything you can ask you anything yeah you actually you become one of my good friends really would you say best friends uh that's so shady if you don't say yes okay who else do you consider a friend besides me jacob okay besides jacob and i is there anyone you have a friend that you don't pay kevin yeah i'm kidding i'd be friends too kevin kevin kevin and kevin low work for me for a long time yeah um mike is your friend i feel like

you and mike are so cute together yeah it's my homie i feel like you and mike are so cute together Yeah, it's my homie. I feel like you guys should like go on dates together. I don't know if we're going to go on dates together. No, but I feel like you guys could both go and pick up women anywhere you go. I mean, I guess. But, you know, yeah, so it's a Mike, Jacob, you, me, um, Steve. I don't like Sylby too much.

Stop, he's going to get so butt hurt. I know, it's so fucking. I try, I feel bad because like I really just make the jokes because I love him. Yeah. That's why I do it. He's so sweet. But it's like, it's, like, it's. I don't want to be mean to him also

I love you Sylvie if you're listening to this he's great I'm sure he's listening he's amazing he always watches my YouTube videos Nate what he would why do you know that because he always texts me like oh this was really nice this was great probably trying to get Micah to fucking step his game up a little bit no he it's always about me and it has nothing to do with Micah did you think of anything yeah um where geez these things are soapy

Wow okay okay yeah I was thinking thinking while I was on the toilet. Where do you find yourself continuing, if, it could be different things each time, but where do you think that you go wrong with the relationships that you try to have? Oh, man. That's, what do you think makes them fail?

With women. Yeah, with women or men. I get what you mean, like business, whatever. You're talking about relationships. Correct. With women. With women, okay. Yeah, like intimate.

Right, okay. So I for sure have figured this out now. And then we'll all say what we think. And I'm going to ask you also, like, if you figured it out, why haven't you changed it? Well, I've totally figured it out. It's just like being able to implement the change is also like, you know, finding the person that's willing to, you know, to be there, right? So you want to say what you think it is and then you want me to answer? You want me to answer it first?

What I think your issue is in a relationship? Because like if I answer it, this might skew what you think. Yeah, why don't you say it based on what you know about me? what I think your issue is in a relationship. Sure. Yeah. I love it. I love it. I think that sometimes maybe you go balls deep. Balls deep. I try.

It doesn't always work. No, that's not what I mean. I mean like you go like all in. Let's let's say that. You go all in. Okay. And then like when you go all in kind of fast, there's more room for all in like sex

no all in like you go all in like your feelings you're all in I didn't mean like I meant like like he's like you know sex on the first date that's no that's not what I mean I mean like he just gets involved a little like gets involved fast even though you're very smart and strategical with like business decisions I think all of that goes out the window when it goes to

goes to a woman it's the exact opposite you think you overthink women oh my God, dude, I, I, I fucking, the, my biggest issue, you're like an unneuter dog, okay. An unneuter dog, that is wild to say about it. Like, you're just going around, humping everything. What are you saying, dude? No, no, my issue has, and then you overthink at the end of the day. No, it is overthinking is a large part of it, for sure.

And I think a lot of people can relate to this. My biggest issue had been just like being able to be comfortable, which is fully committing and not being afraid of like not showing up and not being enough like being afraid like creating problems where like there aren't actually problems because like my just own insecurity stepping into the relationship being like oh this could be a problem because this and this could be a problem because what is so overthinking yeah specific thing give us an example okay so you don't have to say who just give us an example no no I give you an example so just like seeing someone being like oh man this this could be great right and then

you instead of looking at all the things that could be good like I'll look at all the things that could be good and then I'll create all these like other things that could come along that could be bad expectation not expectation just like worries scenarios in your head yes fears and then I'll start to like take a step back go ahead what's one of those like fears like what's something that like I'll tell you what he's like oh never mind I'm not going to say it yeah so it could be anything like for me it's like does this person want me because of this is is are there. intentions true like you're worrying about all these certain things right and then you start to question like I would just like hyper analyze things and then be like oh this is weird or this feels like this or it feels like that and I'm creating these scenarios that aren't necessarily exactly what's happening but then it starts to make me rescind myself and like pull back my attention and like honest like not do enough not show up the way that I could show up and like kind of like hold myself back in a sense and it stems from like I said The fear really is ultimately being like, if I show up my best,

this person could still leave me and walk away from my life because maybe I wasn't good enough. Yeah, but that's actually, that's a lesson that my dad recently taught me. I had a problem where I was very quick. I still, I still do shut down, but usually it's because like I go with my gut and my gut's usually right. But my dad has taught me to, you know, like you have. have to, like, if you ever want to progress and actually find real love, you have to be willing to put your heart on your sleeve and, like, literally lay it all out there. You have to, like, if you're going to be seeing somebody, you should at least, like, and this is on both

sides, like, the woman and the man should both have the respect to, like, really put an effort out there. Like, obviously, you know, going a couple dates first, kind of, like, get to know the person and stuff. But the moment that you realize, like, oh, yeah, you know, I think, have interest in this person, you should really like completely put yourself out there and have complete vulnerability because if there's anything that you hold back from that person, then how can you expect it to like last or go anywhere? Like you have to have complete vulnerability. You want somebody that is your person, right? Like somebody that can support you and be there whenever you need them to and you want to be fulfilled in a relationship, etc. So like you have to be very authentic

like to the fullest. Both parties do. Absolutely for anything. actually ever work so it's just about finding i mean like for me recently it's like now that i've learned that lesson i'm always completely authentic and like vulnerable with my partners i will tell them exactly how i feel i'll let them know i'm really into you i'm not seeing other people etc like i'm very verbal with how i feel and like what's going on in the relationship so now it's just for me it makes it easier because now it's just finding a partner that can reciprocate that and then one day it's going to be successful once I find the person who can reciprocate. I think it's just hard to find 22-year-old men to reciprocate.

Correct. That's true. Yeah. Well, like I said, I mean, for me, the thing of like me want to have a family like only really kicked in when I was younger. I think, excuse me, when I was older, I think people like, I don't know, especially nowadays, I don't know, maybe it's just an LA thing, probably just more of an LA thing. Like people are just so not focused on those sort of things.

Everyone's just focusing on like the come up, you know? I don't think this is this is when I talk about this it's always interesting because I'll read comments sometimes people are like oh you're out of touch with like actual date and I'm sure that I probably somewhat am because of my circumstances but also really just because of like that besides the circumstances the industry in LA itself because you suck at going out I know you expect to find someone at your own home which won't happen on the drive On the drive to the gym Which won't happen unless you rerun them It's not going to happen on the drive Okay

What if I like No stop Okay At zoo culture Which is 95% male dominant And the 5% of women That come in are faith and I Wait wait wait wait

Wait wait wait This slanderer I don't know if it's slander in No it's cap There's multiple women At zoo culture There's tons of women But I'm saying it's the most

Like It's the same rotation of women You know like you've already exhausted those options because you're not exhausted those options I'm not I'm not like like I mean nothing's progressed in the past eight years of zoo why is it going to happen all this out damn asking the hard question wow what I can't say nothing's ever progressed like okay what I'm saying is that the chances of you finding someone at your own home drive to zoo drive back to zoo or zoo itself very low chances at this point damn so you need to do things I need

to move is what you're saying yeah and sell the house to me This is all a plan for you to get my house. No, don't move homes. That's not the issue. The issues that you need to put yourself in circumstances where you meet new people that aren't gym people. I love gym people, though. Yeah, of course. As do all of us.

But I'm saying, like, you go out, maybe you go, like, stand outside the UCLA Library. What? Do what? They'd be like, what the fuck is this guy doing? Yeah, like, look at her. She's like, that's not the move. No, like, you read a book at the UCLA library. Just stand outside with a book.

Like, go to a coffee shop. No, we were talking about this with Stine. funny. He's like he was going to get like a dress shirt, a computer, an air pods and go to coffee shop. That's where he's going to pick up girls. See, he's never going to be happy though. You can't put on a front of like who you aren't. That's not going to get you anywhere. Like definitely take care of yourself, you know, try a little bit, whatever. But like you can't like put on something that's not you or else you're never actually going to find happiness. Yeah. So I think it's just about like going to places that are actually true to you.

Obviously like the gym is one, but. Do you have any other hobbies? go to the dog park I go to the dog park all the time all right you know I find your wife at the dog park we talked about this dogs equal or the dogs are bitches yes but they also equal

women coming towards you like oh my god it's so cute because if you think about it like girls will be taking their dogs out for a walk they're probably single that's why they have a dog and then you go out and you go they're probably single

that's why they have a dog yeah because they're lonely like you yeah lonely dude Jesus Christ what bro what bro what bro bro what bro what bro what bro what bro what bro what bro what bro what yes you are lonely no i'm not lonely don't say that's fucking rude dude so how dare you no i'm not saying it in that aspect but i'm saying

you need companions i'm not saying you're lonely because you don't have a bitch i'm saying you're lonely because you choose to spend every minute that you're not at the gym the other 22 hours of your day excluding the two hours that you're at zoo you spend alone yeah I go to the fucking, I go to the beach. A long time is good, but yeah, you definitely have to. Yeah, but excess alone time is not good. No, and I get it like. What am I supposed to have someone around me all the time?

No, but I'm saying every once in a while, I think I don't know, like, you should, I don't know who your friends are, but you should maybe have like go to a poker night, have a poker night, whatever men like enjoy doing at like the grown man age, you know, like, just. Go to a strip club. Maybe not, yeah, yeah, maybe not strip club. Dude, I'm good, man. Like, you don't have to go on party, but, like, go to more, like, group settings, and that's how you meet more people. Shut the fuck up, dude. You should, like, adopt a kid. What am I the fucking?

Dude, my Brad Pitt? See, that be sick. The hell is this? You have enough funds to, like, you can actually change. You should adopt, like, 50 children. Yeah. Dude, I should just adopt a bunch of kids. No, not adopt, but foster them.

Isn't that the same thing? No, foster you take them, take care of them while they find adopt. parents adopt is like i feel like brad wouldn't have the patience for that a bunch of children that weren't his definitely not no not a bunch but i'm saying like one or two at a time until they get adopted like you like you like kids you would like your own kid but i don't think you like kids i love kids i do love kids for sure i've actually never seen him like with a child really yeah i've never seen him engage with a child hmm ever are you sure are there their children at zoo yeah josh brings this kid there all the time yeah and you threw that baby across

no you're cabin don't come in here cabin no i was really holding this kid i was holding it and he looked him and he was like how much protein you think's in this kid acting like you're not funny dude and then sarah do you think i could chuck this kid i yeah i did say how far you think i could throw this kid honestly you did say that i was making this up yeah so was i that's fucking hilarious yeah i would look at you be like how honestly how far do i think i got thrown this not that i would i wouldn't throw the kid obviously just like a thought yeah it's not my kid i'm true suit exactly yeah you got that one good oh shit i'm like don't give your kids to bradley what's a question there jacob do all you guys want to have kids at some point in your life

i was going to ask that actually it's funny oh sorry yeah yeah brad will never give anyone no no that's a good question no that was a great question that was a great question i was going to add literally that was a follow-up you were fucking on it he got it before me dude it's not it's not a competition it's a competition it's not a competition i'm really good editing too by the way oh you edit but a little i kind of show him how some stuff cool yeah but go ahead answer i'll ask the question again so it's better have you guys ever have you i'm kidding i'm fucking with you dude i love you i love you no no no go ahead give us the question you're on camera so okay well no no we're cutting your shit in anyways you can answer his

fucking question damn it um i know your answer do i want children probably eventually i will what are you doing acting just fucking with you eventually i will probably down the line but right now i don't want to at whatsoever yeah like probably not in the next like five or ten years Honestly, having a child doesn't sound appealing to me whatsoever, but... Like, at all? At all? But then I feel like once I had the child, I know that I'd dedicate my whole life to it. Of course, but you got to have, like, people who want to have the child to have the child.

Yeah, but that also entails, like... So if you got pregnant right now, would you keep it? That's a controversial-ass question. I wouldn't get pregnant because I don't partake in those activities. So that's just not going to happen. Wow. the whole internet's like Sarah I love Sarah

well you have you have to you have to have intercourse to have children correct correct there we go yeah are you like abstinent you just don't yeah for 22 years of my life okay that is a lie why do you think that's a lie

you're telling the internet right now that you've never had sex correct that's a lie don't don't come in here lying on the next episode of factor cap yeah that's cap as fuck stony you cut that out cut which bar now no that's staying in all of it all of it oh no that's staying in 100% what about you do you like if so if if something happened and you were like oh damn would you and you had a kid would you keep your kid that's kind of a fuck question huh this is a fucked question should I not ask that's what I'm saying we should cut that yes did you want kids yes would you want kids

You want kids. I want kids. Yeah. I think honestly, like my ideal age would probably be like 27 to like 27 to 30. Somewhere in there I would like to have kids. Because honestly, like I want to be able to like have a husband and enjoy that for a while. I mean, maybe it would come sooner if I made sense at the time. But just like, you know, in terms of sitting right now thinking about it, that would be like probably the most ideal.

because I think it's important to like spend some time with your partner before you know you like create a family yeah and time with yourself yeah yeah what about you because I know like we're not all in the same like generation here yeah so grandpapa okay I would have to have a kid with a kid to be that FYI and you're just my son you have to have a kid with a child that's what you said I'd have to have a kid with a kid excuse me I'd have to have a kid I meant arrest this man no no I mean you would have to have a kid and then your kid hold on oh Jesus Christ I would have to have a kid and then your kid has a kid right I realized that but you said I would have to have a kid to kid yeah okay that's why I said

arrest this man really improper English but yes a kid who has a kid yes I understood fuck you the question is what do I want kids yes absolutely what I have everything else we talked about I mean that's like how many I'd love to have like three probably at the most maybe four yeah I'd love to have a big family you have room for them yeah that'd be amazing so what are some qualities you look for in a women in a women in a woman and a woman or women or a woman in men women whatever you prefer yeah no judgment no judgment like physical mental their character all of it yeah go so we can like you know find one for you so I have my eyes pride for you pride pride open pride month what have you not heard

that's pride month what does pride open mean pride open like you oh pride open your eyes pride open yeah for it okay that's a very weird thing to say but anyways um honestly so obviously someone who wants to be a mother who like sees value in that at some point like not necessarily like you know straight away but like you because obviously you'd have to be able to build a connection with someone where you felt safe enough to be able to like have that sort of relationship and family etc but someone who like sees value in being that all right next to be that comes with time yeah um I think also someone that obviously sees value in keeping themselves like not necessarily they have to be in some crazy shape but understands how important the gym is like for life because just because it's such a

big part of my life 100% um someone who I think is confident in their abilities to do whatever it is like they're passionate about like just outside of a relationship someone who has something of their own that I think can drive them in their day to day so it's not like it's it's not like all they're doing and all their emphasis and attention and energy is like towards you know the other person yeah because I think a lot of times like if you don't have something that is like important or that you have passion in and obviously being a mother that can be like that's my passion in being a mother and like that can be like I'm passionate in being a mother and like that can be your focus. Yeah, but then you kind of morph yourself with the other person, which is something we're actually. Yeah. If you don't have your own sort of like, okay, like I wake up today and yeah, like you're in this loving relationship or you have, you know, you have your family, have your kids.

But if you don't have something, I think that's a little external, like that you're actually passionate about working towards, then you, you know, at some point you kind of might just find yourself wandering a little bit more. What if you meet a woman and she has children of her own? Could you do that? Man, that's tough. Um. I don't know.

I, I, I've never been confronted with that situation. I think, I think, yeah, I could. It would just have to, it'd have to. The right situation. Yeah, the right person, the person you'd have to meet and then like, you know, obviously meet the kids and make sure they're not total shitheads. You know, I feel like in the last, like, I don't know the right word. I don't think sentry is the right word, maybe though.

But I think over some time, I think definitely men and women, but like people's perspective on relationships. have changed a lot like I feel like now men definitely like just how you were saying you know I think before it was men just wanted like a beautiful wife to like cook clean whatever raise their children stuff like that but now I feel like it's more of like a even playing field of like you want somebody that is just as driven and stuff because it's like if you're not then it's almost like the woman just meshes her whole life into yours and I think that there should be some like coming together you know that's a part of like a relationship absolutely but I agree

I think that it's also important to like have that separation and like continue to be an individual and like completing your own life goals and things like that as well I think that women definitely have grown a lot in that way where now it's like yeah don't be wrong like I definitely like I'm so cool with a girl who like is just about the relationship but and you know about whatever family or thing you're building I just I mean it's something as simple as just like something that they're passionate outside of like just that they have to have something i think like i mean that i don't i don't like because i'm probably a little bit more old-fashioned when it comes to like i wouldn't mind having someone that like you know took care of these things and took care of herself

and then took care of like me and my family our family rather um i wouldn't mind having that um but it's just like i also yeah like you're kind of saying i would also want them to have something else that is just like a little hobby or a past time something yeah otherwise like it's I just think if everything is hyper-focused on just like one thing, then you can just become like, I don't know, a little crazy in it. What if she was an entertainer? What if she was an entertainer? No, like a late-night entertainment.

A late-night entertainment? What is that? A stripper? Is she a stripper? Yeah. Could you marry it? If she was a stripper? Yeah.

No. Like an active stripper? I mean. Could I marry it? Is that what the question is, could I marry an active stripper? No. I can do it now if she was a stripper and I was like oh I met her I don't do that anymore this is what I do now yeah I mean like ex stripper yeah I mean it's like you know straight up I mean

if she was like yo I really want to keep stripping I honestly I probably wouldn't find myself in that situation to be like hey I'm taking you serious it's gonna be honest a porn star valid because you do seem to hang out around a lot of them yeah making content shit whatever but like is that like offending you? Is it like, are you, are you, does that hurt your feelings that I'm doing content with? No, no, not at all. Not what, because I should read the comments sometimes. They're like, Sarah's so mad. I mean, I see those two, but I'm never actually upset. You're human. That's why you text me like, really, Brad, autumn again? Shut up. I do not do that. You're going to make seem like I'm a crazy weirdo on here. Really? Another video. No, the only thing is sometimes I feel

like I'm like you didn't invite me and I get like. Yeah, you said it in the video. You're like, really oh autumn's here okay bye i did not say okay boy i'll leave now oh yeah okay i'll leave now because i don't want to intrude on i know you and the other girl i'm just fucking with you you got a good question sorry what did you say you threw me off i said that would you ever date a born star or marry one um that's a tough one uh yeah so not active not active i just got to make that clear like i could if i met someone and i could like i could like i could look past it I could you know it's like obviously there's certain levels to it but at the same time like definitely not active no way no no oh and for me it's even if they did it in their past

I still like I'm not even going to cap I don't think that what is it about it that that's is a big is a hard no if the guy was a porn star two years prior just because he just because everyone's seen it like they just because he had sex on the internet oh not because everyone else has seen his like thingy it's because like he was okay with doing that yeah in the first place it's not like how many people have seen it it's just it comes down to it's personally something not that i would never do so i would expect that and reciprocated from my partner it's just i wouldn't be with someone that has done that it doesn't mean like they're a shitty person it just means like we're not compatible or we don't see eye to eye on that scenario i don't think there's any there's no right

answer here. Yeah, I'm not like dissing them. I'm just saying that not for me. What if like, what if like everything else, let's say you just didn't know that and everything about everything else about this person was like perfect. He treated you perfect. Doesn't matter. So that one is just completely like everything else is like a hundred out of ten. No, I kind of, I kind of agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter. No, there's nothing wrong. I'm just curious. I just want to ask that. I think you're over here at cap and saying you're, you could look past if she was an ex. why do you think that bro

you're over your cap in because the whole football team just ran through your girl last week yeah bro i know how much you over thinking you're over here being like no i could look past it yeah right you'd be like you'd be so suss on her i mean you'd be surprised how much shit i've looked past though already i mean i'm not it's like i've i've looked past so much bullshit

i guess it said it's a fucking age thing i think yeah because your choices are dwindling down so you're like you're tripping you're like five you're so disrespect this is The, you know, it's funny, I went on a pod. I went on a pod with Steinie and Sky. And this is what he wanted the pod to be like. What?

You've, he wanted Sky to be roasted me. Oh, she was roasting him. She was roasting him. And now you're roasting me. Yeah, Jesus. No, I'm done. Can he fucking call you and he's like fucking roast Brad today? No, he didn't tell me to roast you.

No, I'm not, it's all, I was just kidding. The age thing is just something funny to joke about. I'm confident that in the next few years you will find the love of your life and you guys will happily get married. I'm just kidding. you're not a dinosaur, you're not a grandpa, you're not 60 years old, just 50. I know that when I'm coming. So you're saying no to that too, 100%.

Yeah, I think, because like for me personally, usually I kind of just don't like to, I mean, I think it's good to know somewhat of like your partner's past, but there's some things you don't need to know. And, you know, whenever you're bringing porn into it, it's like you automatically know, like what's going on there. And it's also potentially on the internet. I mean, it is on the internet at the time. that point so it's like yeah i don't know like if a guy like has ran through 200 women but it's

like i don't know about it you know because i didn't it's none of my business then it's like whatever i could look past it because it's out there yeah because it's already going to be like a mental kind of like oh and also what she was saying like the mindset of like being like oh i'm gonna do porn for some people i think it's like they you know what ooh that's a contra for for thing to say but I mean well I was going to say you know not for everybody but I feel like it's almost a little bit weak minded or maybe like you don't like follow like God or something like you know like I feel like you you have to be in a pretty bad mental space because I don't think anybody I mean maybe there's like a select few but I don't think anybody just wakes up and

it's like I want to do porn you know I think it's like you get to a point where where it's like you have to survive or, you know, you feel like that's your worth or whatever, you know? Like, I think that it comes down to something that's pretty sad and, like, hurtful. And I think that's, faith is for sure valid on those points. Yeah. So, you know. It's interesting because I've talked to other, I've talked to porn. So I was like, we interviewed Bella on the full send.

And she was just like, straight up like she wanted to do it. It wasn't like coming from a place of that. But I think she's probably a rarity to the, the majority is probably like, okay, this is something I kind of feel like I have to do. Or maybe it's like something she didn't realize that went on that kind of persuaded her decision. And people also like change their mindset over time. Like maybe at one point, like right now, maybe they're having fun with it. But maybe as they get older later on down the road, you know, things are going to be a little bit

different with age and like your circumstances in life. So, you know, maybe she's cool with it now. And maybe she's fine. And it's something that she can, you know, like move forward with. It's not going to like bother her. but maybe there's other people who eventually will sit back and look at that one day and be like oh you know what like I need to come to terms with like this you know like and it's maybe more mentally hard to get over I don't know I think everybody is very unique in the way that they think and like process and do things in life but okay broad and faith I have a question for you guys and then I have to go okay we'll continue you guys will continue okay do people people have the capability to change I do absolutely change is constant I mean as long as you're like mentally willing to learn I think I think so for sure I 100% believe that people do have the ability to change.

The only reason why is, like, I'm the perfect example of that. What did you change from? I was a complete fucking scumbag with women for... No, you did not change. You grew up. Okay, exactly. That's the point. No, I'm saying it...

Oh, then what do you mean by change? I mean, change, like, if you're stuck in some way of going about things or doing things, do you think you can change the way you perceive situations and go about things? Yeah, I think, I think, like, situations, like experiences that you go through. You think so? That's literally the same thing as that I'm explaining. You grow up, you learn. That's the whole point, right?

That's the whole, that's this whole process. Like, I can, I can very easily look at a situation where I was like, oh, I was just like this. Like, I did this. You know, I was this fucking person that, you know, it's, it just is what it is. It starts with recognizing where you're at. Yeah, that's true. So can people all recognize where they're at? Maybe not when you want them to or not.

when they want to in most cases but like once you recognize where you're at and you could start to like I said earlier like go into like that whatever whatever kind of trauma kept you there yeah then you could learn how to get yourself out of there it just takes a lot a lot more time therapy therapy is good why you think people can't change no I think people like I think people can grow up but I think they can't change in the way that like if they have something that they're so accustomed to or a way about going things like your morals I feel like people only will, like if they do change, it's for a temporary amount of time. And then they'll go back to their same ways to go about things.

Like sure, people grow up and they view things differently with like age and time. Yeah. But I'm saying that I don't think people change in the aspect of maybe being a better person. Yeah, but being a better person is all having to do with like time and age and understanding. And like we're talking about like just learning things out a different process, different rate. I think what's sad is I do believe a lot of people sometimes learn a lot of important lessons whenever they're already like old. Yeah.

Whenever they're like, you know, at their last chapter of life, that's whenever they learn. I think a lot of people get stuck in that situation. That's fucked. Like people learn. That's the thing with life. You have to go through different chapters. You can't just skip a grade. You can't skip certain chapters.

Like at some point, life will bring you back to live through that to learn those lessons. And sometimes it's just had a really late part in your life, I think. And that's why it's, like, great if you can be willing to open your mind and be, you know, mentally open to change and learning things whenever you're younger. Because then you stay on top of it and you don't have to worry about, you know, oh, I'm in the last chapter of my life. And I'm only now starting to get my shit together, you know? Yeah.

You got to get out here. Thank you guys for having me. We love you. I love it. Only fans coming soon? Huh? Only fans coming soon? No, only the F.O.

Faith Ordway is coming. soon yeah wait what is that no no out i'm not gonna do o f but i'm gonna do f oh but i'm gonna do okay jesus okay please go open the door for your mother what go open the door for your i will go um see my mom love you guys thank you sarah thank you for having me on the pod you're amazing can you get on your knees uh no i'm not gonna do that do that bye love you see you sarah bye i hope that was on camera Yes, sir. Have a good one. Should I like...

Handsome young man. Have a good day. Yeah, come closer. Come closer. Come closer. Uh-huh. Weirdo. Yeah, you're good.

No, that's the greater thing is like what we're saying. I understand why she comes across the idea of like, can you, can people really change? Is because like, exactly what you said. Most people takes them so long to recognize those lessons. And that's the thing that's most important is like all this shit that we go through. Like I was kind of talking earlier about like when everything's great, we're like, this is amazing. This is exactly what I wanted. And when it's terrible, we're like, why is this happened to me?

What are like this? And it's like, you have to take those moments where, you know, because when it's good, you go, oh, this is great. And then you like take it in, right? The bad stuff, you have to like go, okay, this is terrible. It's okay. What am I supposed to learn right now? And that's what most people don't do. they just go, this is terrible.

My life sucks. You did this to me. This happened because of this. And then you kind of play this victim and this place this blame outward. And then you never really learn the lessons that like you're taught. And then I realized in my life that like you are continually taught the same lesson over and over. And that lesson gets harder and harder. The less you take time to try to understand it, the lesson just gets harder.

Because like you said, people just like, they're just maybe resistant or they're stubborn or they're afraid to like look inwards and like, try to figure this stuff out. But like that's looking back now, I know for me, the thing that kind of caused disruption in like my development when it would come to like personal relationships was I was so focused on work. And I was so good. And it was easy for me to go, okay, I can create my own value and like it's not dependent on someone else. And no one else can make me feel like this because this is all dependent on how I move. So then I would just focus on that. But then as I just spent all my time and effort and energy focused on that. I forgot to look around. That's probably the most frustrating thing

for me at my age right now is that I applaud like the men who are putting in time to their careers and building their own things because I think that's very important. Um, but it's such a frustration like in some ways for me because I think men at my age, rightfully so, but, um, you know, they're so focused on their career and stuff that they can't keep an open mind to actually obtain and like really tend to a relationship. So I think that's why like whenever you're younger, so many relationships fail because it's like, you know, everybody's at different growing spots and stuff. And I think a lot of like the men at my age are just in a position of trying to like figure themselves out and like work at stuff. I think men are just, you know, you guys are hard

workers. I'm not saying I'm not a hard worker, but I think men just have more of a drive to really like bring a lot of like a certain kind of success for themselves. They have these standards and money is important to a lot of men. And for me, I don't know, I'm kind of like a, like a hippie in a way where it's like I, of course, I mean, it would be great to have like a million dollars or like, you know, a huge house and everything. But I've kind of just sat back and realized like I don't need a whole bunch of money. I don't need materialistic things in order to be happy. Like I want to obviously make money. I want to be able to survive, et cetera. But also like I'm not. I'm not. worried about oh I need to make this much money before I can progress and like have a relationship

and stuff like that I think that I could be happy if I found the love of my life and like we were just like van traveling around or whatever just like cheap flights catch a flight whatever you know I'm more about just living the experiences in my life I think that that holds way more value than whatever you can do with I mean careers awesome you know a lot of people especially in this space you know have a lot of aspirations and wants to make an impact in the world and I think that's important and we need those people but I think a lot of people also fail to think about you know like the simple stuff sometimes and just like the idea of having a partner and those kinds of things I think people forget that you can be happy without like it's interesting though I mean it's so it is

also so different I think from guy to girl because because like men's value is based in other things right where like they kind of need to have this sort of level of success or sort of growth in order to garner respect and like appreciation from not only women but also men so like it's the circumstances i think for men are just different where it's more required of them to like have some sort of level of success to have the sort of life that they want which obviously even in those cases it could be more simple if you chose to live it that way but i think like i just find it interesting here and you say like you don't really think about that stuff um because it's almost like it seems like that side would also be just a requirement of like

a guy because I guess my question for you then is could you date a guy that was completely broke yeah I mean I never look at a man and what he has like in his pocket at all that's never really been a thing for me like I obviously want somebody who's driven and has goals and life and stuff but like no like I don't really care like I've talked to people before that just live like the van life and stuff that doesn't bother me I like I would want to I mean if it made sense like I would go with that person and like travel around with them. I think it's more about like the connection for me and stuff and like yeah, it's great. What if you had to pay for everything? I mean, if I can supply, then I don't care. Really? Yeah. That's interesting. Because to me it's like that's another thing like mapping back to what I said earlier.

The whole like let go let God or the universe or whatever. Like I don't I don't stress about how my money is going to come in. I work hard. Of course, I'm not just like lagging or anything, but I'm also not like making myself upset or like killing myself over like oh i need to make this much money whatever you know like i know the opportunities will flow my way as long as i'm doing the best that i can and stuff and like maybe it's not a million dollars but i only want a million dollars if at some point in life the universe is like needs me to have a million dollars you know like oh this idea could change the world then it's like i'm worthy of having that money but if i'm not needing that for anything then like I'm satisfied yeah it's just interesting because the this the dynamic for men is so so different

do you think because you said something earlier about the guy having a like a passion like as long as he's kind of working towards something so how do you how do you then identify like that guy's process meaning like because obviously I'm not saying you have a passion you work towards something and like in five days you have all the success is not how it works but could you do you think you could then be in a relationship with a guy who like had a passion but then like wasn't it wasn't going anywhere because like oftentimes most passions in that sense as long as he's working towards something would kind of turn into something not necessarily millions of dollars but like so like I mean I talked to this one guy one time um I just imagine you talking to just

hippies in bands now I'm just like that's that's the picture I have like no no honestly I don't really have a type I have a van by the way. I just not I was trying to try to I was trying to I'm making one of those things. I just felt like I want to throw it in there. I have a van. You could live in it? Yeah, like a full van line.

Just in case you were curious. Thank you. Yeah, anyways. Wait, ask me again. So the question is like, oh wait, right,

if the passion, like he had a passion. Yeah, because you say he's got to have a passion, right? So Mike, I'm kind of challenging it where it's like, yeah, okay,

maybe he has that money, but like, imagine he just has a passion, like, but nothing ever happens or comes of it? Then are you as like, could you still be there if the guy's a bum.

That's the question, right? It's like... Yeah, I mean, I would help guide him unless like his shit is trash. You know, like, let's say he's like a sound cloud rapper, but he's just rapping about like, oh, I fuck a sandwich in my ass, whatever, some dumb shit like that. I really hope no one ever says that.

I hope no one ever says that. Those are not bars. Okay, but you know what I'm saying? Like, if it's like shitty, I wouldn't even be talking. Like, you show me that shit. I'm out, right? But let's say like he's making some music and it's like genuinely really good.

I'm going to like help you. I'm going to be like, yo, let me see what connects I have. or like, you know, you should be posting this or you should be doing that. I'm going to help my partner, you know. So as long as they're trying and, I mean, it's not like some shitty weird shit. So you'd put your dude on. I'd put my dude on. Like you'd put them on.

You'd be like, this is my guy. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, like, I will do anything. As long as he's not a shitty SoundCloud rapper. Correct. Okay.

I'll do anything for my partner. Like, I, you know, in a relationship, I feel like, you know, like, you're together for a reason. Like, why not try to, like, help each other out, you know? Like, if you're somebody special to me, then I'll do anything that I can to, like, help you out. Absolutely. It doesn't even have to be a relationship. Just, like, special people in my life.

I'm always going to, like, be looking out for you, right? Damn, you're a real one. Thanks. Wow. I love it. So, are you dating anyone now? No. No, no, no.

I think I'm at a point where I'm not closed off to dating at all. Because all the guys are probably like, yo, this chick's going to take care of me. What is her Instagram? Holy shit. I'm super passionate. They can be like, I love. stuff i'm a fucking i'm a singer yeah i i mean no i'm not at the moment i'm not closed off from it i just i know what i want so i'm being very diligent with who i choose to let into my life and like

in what way diligence like you're just like well you know like i'm i'm not like seeking anybody out really but it's like you know i i acknowledge whenever i find somebody to be interesting and special absolutely like I don't take those things for granted I think in the industry a lot of people find others to be disposable in a way which I think is a big problem like and I don't really work like that so I make sure that I'm you know appreciating people who come into my life that I think are special and simultaneously like you know I don't know I don't waste my time on people that I don't see any sort of potential in, you know, like I don't casually date. I don't hook up with people. None of that. It's like it needs to make sense. Yeah, like how are you determining

potential? Potential for me. Yeah, what are those things that look like for the guy? She's like money. Matt, you went completely opposite as long as you got a lot of money. Um, I would say, uh, you got a list or something. Sorry, it's my dad. Oh, that's all good. You can answer if you want no i don't know what he has to say um anyways um okay my values whenever looking for a partner um i think having chemistry with a person is very important like i i want to obviously be attracted to them and like want to endure that i don't have like a physical type i've honestly dated like around the board in terms of like looks that's not really like a thing for me um that's not a thing at all you're just like don't think about that not necessarily like i definitely

like I definitely have like things that I look for like I honestly at this point now that I've really gotten into the gym I think that like I definitely it doesn't have to be a gym boy though to be honest but I would enjoy being able to share that with somebody because it's become like more of a big part in my life so you know just being able to do that but I mean so it's not even so much the physicality but it's just the fact that they understand and they do it yeah yeah but I'm also so cool with like somebody doing something completely different I think that's awesome too like being able to like appreciate somebody that lives a completely different lifestyle you know as long as they can click together but um yeah I would say that I would say this is a hard

question I like a good sense of humor and I like a person that makes me feel appreciated for sure but also like desired like I don't like men that are they don't they don't put their feelings out I like a man who can express his emotions, but also, like, you know, spit some game also. Like, I want somebody to raise me up. And also hold you down. Yeah, like, I need somebody to riz me up a little bit, okay, you know, have a little game. I'm definitely, like, a very playful person. So I like somebody that I can, like, bounce off of, you know?

Fucking wrestle with? I mean, yeah, I would, like, wrestle somebody for sure, I guess. You mean, like, like, like, you're, like, you're, like, you're, like, you're, talking about like your energy like playful yeah yeah my energy is definitely very like I my inner child definitely exists in me like a lot so I like somebody that I can you know bounce off of because I'm honestly kind of like I wouldn't say I'm a weirdo but you know like I feel like everyone's a little weird yeah for sure yeah I like somebody that is a little weird because then it's like oh cool like the guy who's like eat my ass no no no so sorry yeah

A little too weird. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, when you're finding someone, I always find this interesting, like, how do you know when it's like, you know, you're dating? I'm just curious. Like obviously, I'll give an answer as well. You're dating. How do you know when someone's like, okay, I want to take this person a little more serious? Like, when do you know that?

When do I know I want to take something more serious? Yeah, like what's the thing? Is it like a vibe? you're like so i mean initially there's a lot that a lot of thought that goes into it like beforehand like just the fact that we're seeing each other i'm like mentally like okay i'm interested in this person like there's not a person that i'll just like give my time to if i'm not feeling it right like maybe i'll give you one date but i have to already feel like something's there so that's why it's like nice um to like go out and meet people like in group settings and stuff because you kind of get a vibe

to begin with if you're actually interested and like if I feel like oh I'm thinking about this person a little bit or like oh like they were kind of they were kind of cute whatever and then we go out I definitely first base a lot off of like the first date and where they asked me

somebody asked me to go bowling once and it was a big turn off like I know that's kind of fucked but like I just I just wouldn't like if somebody said a first date let's go bowling like I'm just kind of like I want somebody to kind of like I don't know like recently I was the man in the situation

And I I set up the date No no Sarah I'm not dating now But my previous I was just like Feeling spontaneous I was like

Let's go to like a hole in the wall dive bar and like play darts and pool and shit And we did And we had such like a great night It was just spontaneous That same night like let's go do this He was like oh I know a spot And then we came together

And it was great and it was really fun Like I'd rather do something like spontaneous and like then afterwards we went to like a lookout and we sat and we like talked you know I want a little bit of both like give me a little spontaneous yeah yeah you're what about the guys who do too much like guys who are like they like I don't know they want to buy you a gift they want to do all this stuff really fast kind of like the guys like Steiny and the guys who are like a little bit more what kind of gift what kind of gift if you give me flowers I'll be very no no flowers I'm saying he knows he's known you for a week and he's trying to

to buy you like a bracelet or a bag kind of suss i feel like i feel like that's kind of sus why uh well i think that we would probably ask this question for you i think that this would also maybe be like an incompatible match because if somebody's buying me something like expensive or materialistic like that like off rip i think that their way of showing love is well not that it would be love yet but like their way of showing love probably has to do with materialistic things and that's not how I work. And that's not like my love language personally. So I just don't think it would be compatible as well as, I don't know, that just seems

kind of like, yeah, for me personally, Red Flagg. Some people would definitely love that, but I'm not a materialistic person. So that would not be, yeah, that would be like just not my thing. Yeah. Changing the subject a little bit to gym stuff. You've taken it a lot more seriously recently. What do you like the least about gym content and then what do you like the most about gym content like making it or just in general like everybody's or just making it yeah for you let's

making it yeah um well sometimes like I stress out that people are going to get bored if I'm just like doing the same shit all the time but I think it's also like cool for people to um see like my progress and stuff um I don't know it's cool I like it why'd you choose the why'd you choose the gym route um you got beat up Yeah, I mean, I think that like you're like hold on a sec what the fuck I think boxing is what kind of like started me off like getting me into the fitness space. And so from there I don't know like after I decided oh my God my cheeks like and hot. Oh, it's all good. Okay. Well, because first because I remember when I first saw you I was like this is just some girl on TikTok doing TikTok stuff. And then you've obviously done social media for some time and then you did the fight thing and now you're like full on in the fitness. Yeah. Yeah. because the thing is it's like honestly i really did enjoy the training and everything for boxing but as i like spoke previously a little bit uh not here but um the trainer and i know that there's women trainers and stuff and i could get back into it but it's something that i need to like talk

with my my therapist about um the the trainer that i had kind of just like ruined a lot of that experience for me because i mean like the boxing trainer yeah because you know like your trainer whenever it comes to boxing is so involved in like the whole process of everything so it's like it's very hard for me to separate my experience like boxing from my experience with that trainer so like just recently I thought about going and like having a session again or something and like filming for YouTube and stuff but I just had this overwhelming just uncomfortable feeling of like I don't know it doesn't feel right and I just like I can't help I don't get what happened what happened that was so uncomfortable well there's quite a lot to just give you like the short

quick version um there were times like overtime at first it was good basically we built like a pretty close you know trainer coach whatever relationship and stuff and I told him that I looked at him like a father figure like he felt because you know my family lives across the country and everything so I was with this person every day training and stuff and like everything started out fine but then over time he would like make certain comments that made me uncomfortable like so first he would be talking about like um he would he would speak up things that were like factual he would like layer things in where it was hard for me to understand if it was appropriate or not so for instance one thing is like in boxing like usually trainers will tell their fighters like you shouldn't be having like sex or

whatever like da-da-da um so like he gave me that whole talk but then like he said like that I should invest in getting like a vibrator or something and like he was trying to like I think joke about it or whatever you know like he laughed but that made me feel like really weird and I actually like I thought about it for like a couple days and like I cried about it and stuff and it made me just feel really icky yeah and there's much more with that too that that was like one of the first scenarios and I told him that it made me feel uncomfortable and stuff and he tried brushing off saying like I would I would joke around with like like like my, my granddaughters about that, da-da-da. So then I guess in my head, I'm just like, okay, like, maybe I'm just being, like, sensitive, whatever. And then a couple months passed by, like... Have you ever told this story? On TikTok, briefly, but it's like, there's, like, 60 seconds so you could talk about it.

So that was, like, the first scenario. And then he got on this kick of really just always went into... He had an Android. So it was, like, WhatsApp, FaceTime? He would always be like, FaceTime me, or whatever. I'm like, okay, and it's like he would sometimes just be checking in with me and stuff, but then, like, there was this one situation one time where it was, like, later at night. And I was, like, emotional about, I think it was my whole, like, roommate situation.

That's, like, a whole story in itself. But, yeah, it was a very, like, emotional time for me. And he was first just checking in on me, seeing, like, are you okay? Like, is everything good? And I had talked about how like, yeah, like I, you know, I haven't been taking care of myself. Like I haven't showered like da-da-da-da. And he's like, well, go take a shower, da-da-da. And then call me back.

So after my shower, I was in my robe. And then he was like, oh, show me your robe. Like, show me like what you're wearing. And that made me feel. What the fuck, dude? Yeah. And then the last scenario I'll talk about. There was a lot of weird stuff.

But how come at some point were you just not like, what the fuck are you doing? No, no. I would tell him, like, that's kind of weird, whatever. And he would also get kind of, like, defensive as well whenever I would, like, be like, yo, like, no. But the thing is, like, I was getting, well, I was at this point, like, over the time, I was about to sign, like, for the contract and everything for my fight. So I was literally maybe, like, three months out.

And that's, like, kind of prime time whenever you're really supposed to be, like, honing in. So you felt a little pressure, like, I have to kind of do this. Correct. Because, like, he was a great trainer. That's the thing. Like I was learning so much from him. And so it was just this really weird dynamic. And like there's this one day where I was in a really uncomfortable situation with my roommate where I just didn't feel like I felt comfortable coming back to the house. And so my coach was at first like, well, it was on Thanksgiving. She was like having like a party and stuff. And basically there was this whole scene made and it made me feel really. your friend at the time yeah and my roommate and um she she basically wanted to keep the party going and stuff and i didn't want to go home to like you know a party going on and stuff and in retrospect i

probably could have like gotten a hotel or something but i wasn't thinking about that at the time and i also didn't have a lot of like money at the time either because i had spent out so much on training and i was so focused on training you know i'm not getting brand deals coming my way and stuff because i've been so like train train train whatever um so yeah anyways um um my turner was like come on we'll go out for Thanksgiving like get food da-da-da and then um I was gonna try to like this sounds cheesy but I was gonna like try to get the cops to like shut down the party but they said like oh you know she lives there too like we can't do that so then he's like oh you try to shut her party now yeah uh didn't work though so then he was like well if you need to

like you can stay in my grandchildren's room but so you were talking to this guy randomly like or he just keeps hitting you up like in that my coach yeah like you're talking to him like as the party thing you're found out and you're telling him what's going on we previously so at like he knew about my situation that was going on with my roommate because it was like something that was going on for a little while okay and i was like confiding in him because like i said like we started a really like good close relationship at first where it was like i looked at this guy as like a family member to me and stuff so that's where it's like really weird and hard and stuff um but yeah so he's like yeah like if you need to like you can

stay in my grandchildren's room and stuff and like you know he says it says grandchildren's room and also he's like 60 or something so I'm like you know I want to think that it's like comfortable and safe um and so whatever I go there and then the weird thing that happened there was uh I was getting ready to like settle in I put my headphones on and I was just going to fall asleep and that was going to be that and um he's like well if you want like you can come stay in the bed with me and and I would laughed it off. I was like, that's weird. And then I fell asleep. And then the next morning, he mentioned again, he was like, you know, like if you would have slept in the bed with me, I wouldn't have touched you or anything. I would have just rocked you to sleep. And it sounded

like he was trying to be like maybe like a like a family figure. But you also don't say that. Like we're not actually related and there's like boundaries and shit. And so that that was like literally a month out from my fight at that point that all of that happened and like my roommate situation and I had to like move and stuff so there was just a lot that happened like right before that and so all of that situation kind of just like it just brings it back up in my mind whenever I think of boxing it's like that time period of my life and it's hard for me to like want to enjoy it again just because there was so much that happened what did that was so obviously you know that sounds like a crazy like kind of very shitty experience yeah

on a lot of levels what did what did it teach you now like moving forward um because obviously you know yeah i mean like i think i asserted my boundaries but i guess like assert them more and also like not to trust people and their intentions and like not not to trust people also trust people but you know be more hard on like you know not not seeing like the good in everybody and expecting everybody to be a good person um yeah i think honestly just being better about like my naiveness for sure and like what else i mean that's that's what i would really say i don't i don't think i got a lot of positive too much out of that other than you know a lesson learned yeah less more more more boundaries yeah because that's what it's

seems like like the two close of lines and then like you need like kind of needing the situation to be something and yeah guess not expecting it to be that wow that's interesting so yeah wow uh i mean i'm assuming you can't say this for instance name or anything that would be fucking terrible right um i mean yeah just out of like me trying to like i mean i don't i don't want i wouldn't want anybody to like go to him again but also i know that um yeah that's his best client that he had aside from me like an actual like professional boxer uh had like falling out with him right after and doesn't work with him anymore so i think honestly like karma's already doing its job for me i don't think i need to like you've told this story before but you never said who

right i mean i just said my coach i mean there's videos of like me training with him it wasn't the first coach it wasn't the last coach it was the guy in the middle that i was with for a while um there's there's clip of me like working uh with him not to get confused with the guy who uh came for my fight though that was just a different guy um from the gym but yeah yeah i just i i feel like that wouldn't really you know that's not going to do anything for me yeah no i get it we'll probably cut some of that up um so but no more no more boxing in the plans for you i don't think so i mean like i've tried to open my mind to it and like i said you know after i speak maybe with my therapist about it and stuff and work through those things maybe that could be something for me in the future

but that's where, you know, like, fitness has been a way for me to, like, still really enjoy all of that. But, you know, I'm also doing my own thing. You know, there's not somebody to make me feel uncomfortable. I'm just putting in work and building myself and, like, that feels good for me. You know, I loved the fitness of boxing, but now it's kind of associated with something weird. So this is something that feels fresh and, like, enjoyable for me. What do you find most difficult about the gym and, like, for you, your personal progress? I mean, I'd like to see my muscles some more.

You know, I would say probably like the dieting part. Like, it's the hard. It's hard. Yeah. For everyone. I always get to ask the question about like, how do you stay motivated? I got to ask this question all the time. What do you think is important?

With motivation? Yeah, to stay motivated. Because like, it's easy to be like, oh, I like the gym for like two months, maybe a year. But like to do this for a long time. Yeah. I think it's honestly just like, I don't know. I think you have to make it a part of like, like, your daily routine and lifestyle that's like i don't really think that it's i mean the

motivation comes naturally i think whenever you make it a part of your life and something that's like consistent as it is with like anything in your life i think if you like are consistent with like something positive in your life and you're also seeing the results and you're seeing like a positive impact in your life you know that's kind of where the motivation comes from because it's like you're only helping yourself at that point you know so if you can get yourself to get past like the first couple months of going then I think everybody can find like motivation and doing it for sure instead of in so you're saying instead of just focusing on like the outcome of it like the enjoyment of it absolutely yeah but I think there are limitations for a lot

of people though too because a lot of people you know work long hours in the day and it's like where can I find time to like incorporate the gym into my life and that's where it's really challenging yeah so I think that we're in a really like blessed position to be able to like enjoy for sure fitness and everything you know because not everybody has that opportunity but um yeah I think I think anybody can do it if you can just find the time even at home people can incorporate fitness into their life little stuff you're in there um I guess I guess I have another question for you thinking about like your your your um your come up and or maybe even before that um like did you see social media as a thing that you wanted to do

before you did it like did you kind of fall into it like how did it how did it start for you i mean like i watched some people on youtube before and i was like oh that would be so cool like if i could do something like that but it wasn't something that i necessarily thought was like within my reach like me getting on to uh i can't remember like i think i might have blown up on instagram first um i know with ticot like one of my friends just sent me like a video off of it whatever like whenever her first came out, I was like, oh, that's funny. And I thought it was just like a video editing app. So that's like what I thought it was at first. And I was just going to like make a video to send back to her. My videos literally had zero views. I think they were all like on private

at first. Then I realized, oh, you can make this like public. I'm just posting stupid stuff. I think the first video that started getting traction was like somebody was like, oh, you look like Charlie Demilio or something like that. But on Instagram, um, I started with like, like bikini modeling and stuff, which kind of regretful of that. now but i mean about what like what what bikini modeling um just because you put yourself out there that way kind of yeah i mean that that company in specific i don't know if i'm probably not allowed to like bad mouth them but like they just kind of exploit the women where it's like you know with the bikinis straight up they're just like all right turn around and then just like ass pics right is it boot team

babe yeah yeah yeah so that's what i'm saying like i've experienced stuff with them as well yeah so that's So I'm like, you know, it's, it's not the best because those pictures will always float around and like whatever. It's my butt cheeks. But as I said and as we were talking about like change, my mindset has changed a lot in the last like four years to where now I've become a lot more like conservative with my body and stuff. You know, like I'm not hiding myself away. But I definitely have different feelings towards that now. Yeah. So it's it's interesting because most girls just go they just progress the opposite way. Right. Like if it's there. it kind of just keeps getting more there right yeah and i think i i think the reason why i had such like a change is probably the moment that i started really being able to like put into myself i think honestly like boxing and like fitness being able to believe in myself and like learning how to want something that's bigger than myself that's you know just in general like developing my brain growing maturing etc like i think like more than just being a hot chick right right Right. Yeah. Like I wanted I want more for myself and I've always wanted more for myself, but I limited myself in my mind where I thought that I could never be more because that's what people made me feel like. But at what point in your life did people make you feel that way? Because not now. For a long time. Yeah, I would say like less now. But like I mean forever whenever I was younger like people notice my body before I noticed my body. Right. Like it was always a thing like I've always.

had kind of like a little bit of like a figure and stuff um like body figure or whatever and uh so like it's always been a theme in my life like just sexualization and everything and it's always not been something i was super comfortable with uh whenever i was younger i didn't like fully grasp it so i would if anything be like flattered and i'm like oh cool like show it off whatever but then as i get older I'm like oh you know like my body is special and like I should keep this stuff you know as so treated as so like body's a temple not everybody has to like I don't need to like please everybody especially men I don't need to like be the male gaze and like please other men like that's that's where my mindset used to be especially adding into like my work and stuff you know having people

comment all the time on it and stuff and if you post anything else of like personality or talking you know before I wasn't confident in who I was and I hadn't had enough going on up there to be honest with you because I hadn't developed yet to where people didn't really care what I had to say so it took a lot of me going through experiences me growing to right now it's like I think I do have valid things to say and I think that I bring a lot to the table aside from just the way that I look but it took growing to get there yeah damn and in going through that too I mean it's beautiful like yeah because that's that's I mean all the stuff we're talking about earlier about like being able to appreciate where we're at and all this stuff is this all relevant like taking inventory

like we also talked about earlier of like the points in your life because these little points are not they're not like crazy trauma but these little moments where you're like you're being fed like this is who you are this is what your value is and then being able to look back on it step outside of and be like no I actually do want more yeah than than that for myself and then you start to do it you know I find interesting I think about my life social media right you know I talk about how my focus and my gaze was all on like success and like building this and I kind of fucked up this like personal life side of myself at the same time too like a lot of what I did started like in the beginning it wasn't this way looking back like I just made content

because that's who I was and that's what I did and like genuine from a true true genuine place like this is just who I am this is what I love this is what I think this is what I believe all my content was like that and then somewhere along the line because of I don't know if it's because of stress or the need to perform or having to show up a certain way like I had to continue this sort of like trajectory of I felt though I felt as though I needed to continue this to like some degree because like if not then like I wouldn't because I wasn't focusing on these personal parts of my life and I was focused on just like my identity became my success yeah that I lost sight of like eventually at some point who I really was right who I really am and the coolest thing

about this podcast platform for me is that it's allowed me to get back into like that person that I've always been that person that I would have those like deep long conversations with friends even back when I was 17 years old and I didn't know 90% of the shit that I know now I was just always a thoughtful like human in the sense of like what is the purpose of all this what is what's special about you what's special about him and I uh I really got away from that because I just got so caught up in like it having to perform a certain way or be a certain way so have you have you ever had pressure to feel like oh yeah like because because go out of oh i'm hot girl to like there's more more to me than that like you know you don't get

as much likes you don't get as much engagement people like this shut up like because you'll see that negative feedback right so did you ever go through that phase you're like fuck absolutely yeah i think i went through a lot of that and a lot of times i would like retract myself from sharing more about myself i do think that there should be yeah a fine like boundary though between like what you're choosing to put on the internet and what you're not. But yeah, I mean, I think that there was definitely like a weird transition for me and I got like a lot of hate comments and stuff. And honestly, yeah, like it would bother me because it's like I was trying the best that I could to, you know, I wanted to bring value. Of course. You know, like in my head, I just pictured

it as like there was such like a special part inside of me and I wanted to be able to share that. but it just hadn't like developed yet and I'm still developing it now but you know it was frustrating because nobody else was able to see that yet it was just me trying to speak and maybe what I had to say was not that great yet but I was you know trying to put myself out there but I would retract myself whenever I would have like a negative response for sure for a while you know I'm curious how do you define like you said you had this special part that you wanted to give out I think I'm doing it now like I fully believe but my question is not so much that because I do agree I think you are and this conversation is awesome and I appreciate you

but my question is like that special feeling how would you like define that how did you recognize that I think it's always been there it was just a matter of me being able to love myself and accept myself for who I am and also not worry about the circumstances of like exactly what you're talking about like performance and stuff like that I think there was a lot of factors that were holding me back, not just within myself, but also, like, yeah, you know, like, oh, am I going to be able to survive? Well, people still like me or whatever, et cetera, because, like, as a content creator, you know, like, sometimes you can get into, like, this whole downward spiral of, like,

oh, like, people have to like me. I have to do what people like, et cetera. So, like, as soon as I kind of just, again, you know, I stop stressing about that. And I'm like, let me just be the best person that I can and continue. you to have an open heart and open mind to learn. I think that I've had a lot of success come my way and a lot of positive things. And I think that's the way you're supposed to live is just being like present and doing your best and being open to be like a student to life. Yeah. And just showing up that way. Like I said, like I had all my success in the beginning because like I said before I got

caught up and need to have it, that was just me. And so the closer you connect to like who you just are and you and you just become that like the content you make and it's indicative of you then like I really do believe especially nowadays because there are so many people doing the same shit that that's the true thing that separates people because everyone goes that guy does it I want to do it I do what he does I hear he makes money I'm going to copy I'm going to do it like yeah my little version but it's all just kind of carbon copies it's the people who are willing to have like the conversation who are willing to break that barrier other than just like this is the thing that I do like watch me to share themselves in relationship to it that have true success and like also like allowing

your authenticity to like shine through because you know it's like there's always comments it's like oh like what's your talent like you have no talent or those kinds of comments but that's a thing yeah but that's the thing like okay maybe maybe i'm not like a singer or something that you can like grasp right i think that my gift comes from i don't think that it's anything crazy i mean maybe it will develop to be. But I think right now it's about, I think I'm a good communicator. I think that I am somebody that can share, you know, as I'm going through experiences and learning, I think that's like my duty right now is to share what I'm learning with other people so that they can gain perspective and stuff. And that's what makes me feel fulfilled at this moment. And that's where I think that

I'm special and stuff like being able to have these conversations and like, you know, I think that these conversations help a lot of people as well. So that's kind of like where I'm at right now personally. Maybe it's not like the world class singer or whatever. Some people like make beautiful music and that's where their talent shines through because they're so lyrical and stuff like that. Or like their voices like beautiful and heavenly, you know, like there's different things for different people. It's not always going to be so like visually like, I'm a singer, I'm a dancer, I'm this, I'm that.

Sometimes it's just the way that you can like communicate with people or whatever. It's simple things. I mean, it doesn't have to be those other things. right it's all just everyone's gift is just uniquely theirs but that's the whole point is like not even necessarily if you want to be on social media or not just in life i think like the thing that just rings most true here is like how you have a successful life and how you're happy is just like connect with yourself and allow yourself just to be that like and try not to hold back and you know we were talking earlier about um showing up in a relationship and my issues

that i had you know throughout my life was it's literally indicative of that it was just like being afraid to show up in a way that you know you can but you're afraid because like maybe they won't like it maybe it won't be enough it's the same thing that people like hesitate in all aspects of life in relationships and it's like it's all this like the self-worth and like you kind of playing mind games with yourself where if like you just show up this is who I am the truth is and I've said this for years now is like it's very real like whether you're on social media or not you want to be successful on this or not or just successful in life like the reality is going to be the same people are going to love you and hate you no matter what yeah so if you're just

yourself than like you don't have way more success way more success and you'll be way happier and you'll never skip a beat it's never like I need to pretend to be this or to be that and and that's how you find the most success in relationships and friendships and everything it's all just about being your raw like genuine vulnerable self that's what all this is about your raw self I mean that's why I did all this branding like that's why all this stuff was important to me and like that's this is this is these are all representations of that because I've realized in my life The thing that's given me all my success has been just being like sharing myself at my best. And when I still had success, but when it felt the weirdest to me was when I started like,

like I told you earlier, just I felt like I had to do things a certain way. And I start losing track of myself. And that's when you're like unhappy. So even though I could still have success because I could push, I can push something a certain way just because I knew how to do it. I've done it for so long. But you started losing sight of yourself. And then eventually. If you don't catch that back up, then that's what can take everything down.

It's like when you're, when you get so far removed from who you really are, then you make decisions that are improper. You do, you do things that aren't of character. And that's when things kind of get fucked up. Right. You know, so. I think different experiences bring different perspectives. Sometimes, you know, you could tell somebody advice all day about something,

but until they go through it, you know, and they're ready to learn and they're mentally at the spot to understand. you know everybody has their own divine timing with everything yeah so you know you can it's good to give people advice and like open their mind to different things but yeah just like you can't expect everybody to be able to grasp on the way that you can to things yeah always always in your own time that's the most important thing and not expecting i think people get caught up in relationships and things and just working out the way that they wanted to work because like they want it on their time and you got to understand the other person on the other side or the business whatever is like it's all people related so it's all communication at the same time communication aside it's all about like

where someone's at how much they know to that point where what you know what they've learned how they've learned how to deal with their issues are they able to show up and have the conversation for it to be what it can be so i just try to just fucking not complicate things more as i go older i just try to just be like oh it's just some things just are what they are and i try not to force things to be what i want them to be anymore and i just realize like that's like the path at least resistance as you get older and you start to realize that's what really works. Not that you can't work towards shit, but like when it comes to like interpersonal stuff, like relationship stuff, you kind of have to like just kind of flow a little bit. No, absolutely. I'm working on that a little bit myself as well.

I noticed more recently something that I want to work on is like if I feel decently sure about a situation and maybe somebody says like, oh, I need some time to think on this. You're talking about dating. yeah yeah yeah um definitely i'm trying to think if it would be yeah no definitely only like in dating i think that honestly i'm pretty pretty patient and stuff in like any other situation um but yeah with with dating i definitely find myself kind of like oh like if you need time to think about like how you feel about me then i don't know like that that kind of like sends me into a little bit of like oh, you know, like if I need to take time to see how I feel about somebody, then, you know, I think I give myself more leniency than I do other people and that's something that I want

to be better at is like being able to maybe allow them that space because I think I just get a little bit insecure. Like if you don't show me that you're actually into me. Because like, if I can answer the question and be like, yeah, like I'm interested in exploring more about you, like, and you can't say the same about me, then I don't know. It kind of like pushes me away. But I mean, it's never like negatively affected me though.

Like I feel like if anything like it's kind of saved me some like shitty men maybe. But not to say that they're shitty. I think it's just like all that timing. You know what's interesting. Yeah, it's about time, but you know what's interesting about that. It's also like the thing we were saying earlier,

like maybe maybe in some case you don't really. allow for is like that not that you have to just wait a long time for someone to get to your level but at the same time like it is true like some people just like maybe they're they know in their they're okay I'm not fully here yet and they can't at least that in those cases if you're saying in this situation like they're at least they're honest about it and they're not like telling you otherwise and then like treating you otherwise right so like there is some good to that but yeah I definitely think like we're talking earlier the same thing it's like some people just aren't fully ready and you know obviously it's up to you to be like okay how long do I want to be around

here to like this person is willing to like move towards that direction that like I want to go in now but there's obviously no right way to do any of this shit I just think it's being aware and like communicating and I think that's the most important thing in this whole conversation is like communication is the key of all these things working totally and I think some people are just afraid to have certain conversations because of just straight up the fear of like denial and things not working out the way that they wanted to be I know that's something that I struggle with like I I would kind of create what I like this like perception of uh of a person or like a project or something.

I would be like, okay, this is what I wanted to be. And then I would look down and let's not say down, but look next to and see the person and be like, okay, is this person that? And I would kind of create this like unnecessary comparison without giving things time to like really metastasize and become what it can become. And it kind of just, that had been something

I realized like would slow down progress. Like it would like make things just kind of like fall apart more than they would have to. Something more recently I've kind of thought on is maybe, like, maybe it's looking in the wrong, I don't know. Like, I think that there is, like, truth and, like, whatever, going out. And then you just start out as, like, a romantic or you're, like, seeking out a romantic relationship with somebody.

But now, more recently, I've been thinking, like, maybe the key is to, it's just the people that you wouldn't expect, like, the people that you have that are just floating around, like a slow burn, that it's, like, it's not even in your mind. like, oh, let me try to pursue something romantic. You just get to know somebody over time. And then eventually, you know, maybe then it's like, oh, you know, wait, this person actually has the things that I'm looking for. And then you try to explore that.

Like maybe that's kind of like, I don't know. I don't know. I guess I got to talk to like some married people who are happy. I mean, there's no right way, right? Yeah. I see what you're just saying, though, like getting to know someone before you like fully like go down the road of like, hey, I'm going to do this thing. and like mentally start getting into that because maybe it's like the whole like hyping yourself up and like the like okay I'm looking at this as I want to pursue something potentially romantically like maybe that's what can like trip things up a little bit too because it kind of like changes the process in a way because you're looking at it as so what do you think some of the biggest mistakes guys make when it comes to like approaching dating like just in general like from your perspective obviously as a woman well I've heard from

some men that whenever they like sleep with a woman too soon that it's just something like with the male like brain chemistry like you know it's you almost don't want to you don't see them as like a person as much like if you if you sleep with them super super early on so i've actually had uh men before who are really like sweet and they're just like hey like let's hold off because I actually like you and I'm like oh so that was kind of surprising so I mean like if the man has self-control that's also like attractive as a woman because I'm like oh like cool um but also yeah so I think maybe like don't like obviously get to know if you want to pursue the woman and if you do have interest maybe like yeah try to withhold yourself from sex a little bit

or you might fuck it up you know it's so hard for me to because like I'm on the other side is because I had sex the first night once and I had, then I had a fucking six year relationship after that. It happens like that sometimes too. I had, it's not super long, but like a year relationship and like right away, you know, not the first night,

but like one of the second times we hung out and then click, you know, but it didn't work out in the end either. You know, I think that it definitely does stunt some of the development. Like you can definitely still get close with a person, but, you know, I don't know if it does or not. because I think honestly like maybe it's just like different factors you know like maybe it's

not that the sex was too soon in the relationship and that's why it failed like maybe it's just I don't know I don't think there is any right answers I think no there's not I mean none of that's that's that's circumstantial with everything absolutely there's when it comes to this people thing in the interpersonal relationships there is never like this is exactly it I think there's some things that like maybe bring more true for others than not but I mean it's the sex on the first eight one's interesting for sure I see why it could be perceived that way because like maybe you think the guy's like oh maybe not taking this girl is serious and maybe the idea that the guy has if she would do this for me she would do this with that guy whatever but like at the

end of the day like it's the focusing the focusing there is on the wrong things I think it just depends on what like where the person holds the values overall like how they're perceiving them how they're seeing them because like sex could be like high on the value list and maybe they it's like it's in their mind oh this is good or this isn't whatever then it's like okay she's staying around or if she's not she's not sticking around and but and then if that's their only value on the value list and like of course like you're going to get the guy who sleeps with the girl doesn't like it never talks to her again but like there has to be other things that person has developed that they identify as important so it's like okay I did this but then also

her personality is dope I like what she does I like the way she shows up and like it's just it matter like what else does that person have because like a lot of younger guys probably just like is this good okay I'm sticking around maybe all the other other things they realize over time eventually when they start realizing it's actually important aren't keeping up so it's just like that sort of dynamic and there's no like exact timing of it but it makes sense for sure um yeah i actually wasn't expecting to have like such a such a like an interesting pod with you on this stadium topic that wasn't you crushed that 22 damn that's that's fresh how many bodies you have uh oh because she said fresh dude

Can't answer that, right? No, I meant like fresh, like freshly 22. Oh, yeah, but I just turned 22. What the fuck? What are you talking about? Okay, we're not going to answer that. Not going to answer that. Jacob, how many bodies do you have?

Hey, let me say this. That's such a stupid question. Like, you should never ask a woman that and I don't think it should matter because like. I did that honestly just for the internet. Let me say. Oh my God. That's even worse. That's not for the internet to know.

Well, no, no, not for the internet to know, but I just knew that like this would be a clip. And I wanted your opinion on this. So that's fucked up. I did that for a clip. I'm sorry. So how many bodies you have? Don't clip that. Then they're going to be like, oh, she left.

No, I don't think that's something to answer. Yeah. And so why are you against that? I don't think it matters. I think like that's definitely personal information. I don't think your partners should really care about that. Because it's like you're meeting them now. What about the concept and the idea of like every person you sleep with,

you're like physically literally transferring energy. And the idea is that like you've had this energy and that's, you kind of brought that along with you throughout relationships and I don't I think it's true you you you transfer energy but that only lasts so long I don't think that you I mean unless it was like a very deep like like y'all connected souls I got a red pillar dude what I got a red pillar right now red pill me so the question is okay that's asking along these lines of like does it count right obviously so you know the energy transfer thing is real and you're like okay this is happening right the thing that also happens that I think the reason why people go so many and I'm not I'm not

arguing for against like this this is not for me to decide everyone's like number is different but I am saying that like what do you think about the idea of let's say you dated uh five dudes okay and you had experiences with these five guys and like they kind of shaped certain viewpoints that you had right okay and then there's five more dudes let's I'm just giving you a high number here I'm not saying that's your number okay let's say it's 10 dudes total right so you have this like kind of not warped perception of things, but you have these like, you think about guys like this because of this.

You think about guys like this like this way you think about it. So now you have all these like trauma pieces that you probably built up to these relationships at some point that now the guy who's the, the 11th body is like now having to like deal with that version of you that is a little more complicated now than which you would have been with less interactions. That's the whole like.

I wouldn't really consider. I mean, if anything I think I've. learned positive things like I'm only becoming a better person I don't think that I'm holding baggage. Apparently you're a fucking unicorn because like that's not the norm. The norm is like I think it's just about like everybody's not different parts you know and people are willing to accept and learn as much as they are but like yeah I'm not like I don't I don't think I hold any baggage to be honest I think I'm just learning more of what I like and what I don't like and that's how I

navigate who my next partner is going to be like oh you know what I learned I don't like this but I like that so I'm going to like look for a person that has what I want you know I don't hold anything from any of my past relationship that was a good answer because the truth is like to answer my question as well that I even asked you based on what you just said is it is very relevant because that's not as you can't I can't make this blanket statement because obviously if you could go from those 10 things 10 bodies right and learn from each one then that could only make you better like at least through that process that I think that the the whatever stupid arguments or the ideas that like most people don't really just develop enough through those things

that they just kind of drag shit and then they're in the next one so that's why the perception is kind of like probably skewed like that I mean I view every person as like a new individual I don't think he can like group experiences to people that you meet if you do that I think that you're just setting yourself up for failure yeah well look at you wow just an evolved just like that's you got it that's kind of the most evolved 22 year old thing i've ever heard i wonder if it's cap how would it be cap you think i'm just like put like i got like a computer like i don't know i don't know what do you mean because it sounds good because it sounds good that's just you i mean that's me i like i said i have my faults like you know like i'm not

doing everything perfect you know like in situations sometimes I'm maybe a little impatient with other people you know like if they don't show me like that they're into me by a certain time you know peace out whatever I have I have my faults you know but I don't think they're really necessarily all the time faults like I think I can work on my patients a little bit but also like I'm willing to take what I'm willing to take so you take the accountability yeah and what I mean is like I'm willing to take as much as I'm going to take like do I want to continue waiting for this person And if the answer is no, I don't think that makes me like a bad person. I think it's just like I evaluate how I feel in situations.

I make sure I'm doing good all the time as well as like making sure. Obviously if it's healthy that my partner is doing fine and everything. You know like yeah, for sure. Yeah. Damn. Brad wants to marry me. You like, it's like just weird. It's like not.

It's interesting. The only reason why I believe you, I was like challenging a little bit, but I believe you because I've had conversations with you off camera. that are exactly the same. Yeah. So it's like, it's easy for me to believe you because I know that that is true. Obviously like people on air,

because I'm like as you're hearing it, I'm like people out here got to be thinking like, she's saying everything just because it sounds good. No, because like it does. But I think I would have to like you can't just people who aren't there mentally wouldn't be able to pull that out of their ass though. Like I can speak freely because I've experienced things.

I'm just speaking as I am because this is where I'm at. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. It reminds me when I was 22 started making fucking YouTube videos. That's what I did. Look at that. You're on your way. You are on your fucking way. Congratulations. Thank you. You should make a YouTube channel. It's almost like I have one. It's crazy. Yeah. So you've been you've been more consistent with YouTube. I have. Yeah. Because you're like, because you're originally like TikToker. Then you move to like I guess kind of TikTok Instagram and then fitness stuff and now you're actually. pursuing YouTube because I've seen the videos pop up yeah I like YouTube YouTube is fun I worried for a while that like people get bored of always me just like being at the gym but I think a lot of people do that I think it's like yeah I'm not big on like the whole like crazy clickbait like the other day I got crazy and I like took my shoes and socks off barefoot

at your gym by the way my toes were on your floor oh nice but uh anyways video footage of that yeah I did well you know I didn't show my toes too much I'm gonna make an only fans for zoo culture and just sell people's feet pay everyone always has their shoes off dude yeah i had like my bare feet wow well it's because it was that one guy you saw him he he was in the flops yes yes the guy he gave me this bracelet yep yeah um no actually um I think dude people are going to come in being like just trying to find you without your shoes on now that's what they're going to do they're going to pull the two be like my toes are out out for the dogs are out Yeah, so.

Do you have nice feet? Oh my God, Brad likes feet. Is that weird? I have a pedicure right now. Yeah, they look fine. You want to show everyone? No, I wouldn't show everyone. Dude, I'm fucking around, Jacob.

I think I'm dead serious. I don't know. You want to tell her to take her fucking shoes off? It's actually an insecurity. I think I have cute feet. I think they're pretty standard. Jacob said he liked your feet. He saw me the other day of the gym.

You liked them? Yeah. Like how Jacob tried to just dog me right now, dude. You didn't like them? He did. He took pictures. He sent him to me. I was like, bro, it's weird.

Don't send me photos of fucking people's feet at the gym. He's like, look at it. It's face feet. No, I think I have pretty like average feet. They're, they're all right. They're cute. They're painted. You want to see them?

Maybe. You know, I actually, sometimes I do judgment off their feet. Like, I won't, it won't be like the end factor, but like, hold on. If they got some, if they got some weird feet, I don't know, it might be like a little bit of like a, I'm like, uh, I'm just like, you have good hands. You have good hands. Yes. It's nice. I cut my fingernails.

Yeah, it's good. You have good hands. Amazing. Do you want to say oh did I cut my toenails? Oh my god. Oh my god. Don't show me. I don't think I'm ready. I feel like feet are like I'm not going to put them on camera. I don't want this on camera. Cut this up but I want your reaction. I'm actually like genuinely nervous because it's like. Isn't my good foot? Shit. And you have like the socks on like I know that they're like moist and they're going to look like dead a little bit like they haven't had the blood flow to them so like. Let me get these bad boys ready. Hold on. I feel like I need to do some foot push up. I just like do like a massage or something to them really quick. Yeah. Oh, my God, I'm scared. Okay. I'll try not to, like, judge really hard. Okay.

But, like, you're showing me your foot, so obviously you're pretty confident. No, I don't, I'm not confident at all. Yeah, go ahead. Oh, my God. All right. They're looking pretty pale. They're looking pretty pale. Oh, I've seen worse.

Those are like, your feet are okay. She said I've seen worse. Yeah, they're okay. Not my favorite feet, but like, they're not the worst. I don't think you could be a foot model, but like, you don't think I could be a foot model? No. Oh, my dreams are shattered.

Like, it could be worse, you know? Dude, it's the terrible wearing the shoe the whole day thing. It's taking the blood flow. I had tight, I had it tied up tight. Nah, that was like, I just handicapped myself. I should have done, like, after a day at the pool or something. Whatever, man, I don't care. I accept you for your toes.

Dude, we're 100% having to cut that out. I can't let the internet think I have ugly feet, man. I'm fucking, I will be so sad about that. That is terrible. That's the worst way to go off. And they're just, like, always going to be, like, trying to find, like, a video of you, without your shoes. Bro,

that's the worst way to go out on this podcast right now is like a terrible foot review. She goes, they're not bad. They're not bad. Holy shit,

dude. That's like, that's like you have fucking, oh, I don't even want to, I'm just, this is terrible. I'm resigning.

I'm quitting. Podcasts, we're done. Podcasts every fucking Tuesday 11. Um, yeah. It would make you feel better if I showed you mine or like.

Yeah, now I got to judge you. Come on. I have to judge you now. No, you're not seeing my dose. Okay. That's too much fun.

Damn. Okay. Pay up. So we're going to find you. So when we fully sign out. Oh, Faith Ordway on all platforms. Faith Ordway 7 on TikTok. And I think my YouTube thing is like real Faith Ordway.

Or maybe it's just Faith Ordway. Snapchat. Should we got to wrap Snapchat? Yeah, check it out. Trying to get on that rogue. Oh, yeah. Bam. Snapchat is the best app on the planet.

Thank you so much. We love you, Snapchat. You're the greatest. Hook Faith up. thank you for coming on i appreciate it yeah that was awesome great time Sarah's gone now Sarah's gone but she was here

we will you know RIP to Sarah right now currently we'll hit her up later love you guys we're out here next time Jacob is going to have the audience questions ready oh period why you look like that you always be looking to suss back there

he's sussed dude he's losing weight too so he's like extra sussed he's cutting he's cutting yeah Jacob has a girlfriend, by the way, so like... Heard about that. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Okay, I love you, Jacob.

We're getting out of here. I don't know if you're cutting that out or not, dude, but I don't even care. It's up to you, man. You're the guy. We love you. Subscribe to the fucking channel. We're out. Peace.

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