RAWTALK - FUGITIVE TO MULTI-MILLIONAIRE

Episode Date: July 13, 2022

We are joined by a very special guest some would consider a OG in the fitness industry & old friend MIKE RASHID. Enjoy the conversation of these two catching up in regards to how they got to where they are now & the lessons learned throughout their lifetime. Mike Rashid opens up with Bradley as they talk about their friendship, growth, businesses, relationships, meditation, & life experiences. The conversation was way overdue & you can see the evolution of these two men from where they started to now.SPONSORS: Just go to https://www.tiege.com/RAWTALK and you’ll get 30 percent off your first box, plus a FREE gift! Go to https://www.athleticgreens.com/RAWTALK to take ownership over your health and pick up the ultimate daily nutritional insurance! Sign up for PrizePicks here: https://app.prizepicks.com/sign-up?invite_code=BRAD”SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

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Buffass, Buffass Bradley. Not yet. But how many years has it been? Bro, I'm about to move out here, bro. It's the best place in over. Yeah, fucking, well, I'm all over. I'm not back in Miami all the time, but here, there's nothing like this area.

Hello. Hey, I'm on to meet you. Hi, Natalie. Okay, so welcome back to another episode of Raw Talk. This is a really special episode. I have Mike Rashid with me. bro first and foremost how long have we known each other i have to say like 2012 or 13 something like that's been a fuck ton of years man and you you are one of the original i would i would say like

some of the original creators on youtube in the fitness industry mike rsheed c t fletcher rich piano um who else really stood out to you well well actually we like the second wave we are the second wave was like chris jones chris jones uh physiques of greatness um it was a dude and Scooby, I think. Scoot, I don't even remember. It's like an older dude with a big ass chest. Okay, Scooby.

It's weird. But the twins. The Hodg's Twins. Yeah. Who else? It was a whole wave of dudes before us. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

I feel like Rich Piana was really the one who set the tone on what, like, YouTube could be fitness. He was the first guy because I know he came out of... Mutant. Yeah, he came out of Mutant. And they had this high production value in videos. And then he translated that, like, on his own into YouTube.

Right. um do you do you like like where you're at right now in relationship to where you were um do you have like has your relationship to making content changed yeah it's changed because it's been like fucking yeah first of all like back then when i was doing stuff you know it's 10 years ago you know i mean um i was beating up my body like crazy yeah you know so that kind now that me performing on that level is not sustainable no it's not you know like bro i would like it'd be night i go to bed and i'll wake up like i'd be in this little dream state but almost awoke with ideas of like a video that was back then like oh i can't wait to go to the gym today

you know what i'm saying yeah they would make me nervous these ideas you know what i'm saying so but yeah nah i would hurt myself like i've torn a peck i've torn my bicep up you know i've had my my fair share injuries nothing major though you know what i mean uh shoulder shit whatever i probably need surgery now but i'm not i'm not getting checked you know what that i'm not doing it either so but over time it's like yo and i'm not in the gym all day anymore yeah you know what i got things to do like you do right we're running businesses so um part of me i ain't going to lie part of i love doing content though yeah but i also i really don't need to you know what i'm saying i set myself up in a way to where i really don't need to but i like

doing it yeah you know i'm saying so i still do it um i went i've taken my hiatuses yeah you know but i'm still i'm still in it i'm like actually recharged at it you know i'm saying you feel you feel more like coming back you want to come back to it more yeah yeah yeah and i've been lately you know yeah because i saw you do some podcasts up which is why like i think you tagged me in something your story and it was like an old old video of ours and you posted it and instantly I was like oh fuck I want to have this and I remember that's conversation with you and then I remember um you've done some podcast stuff more recently I think I saw some stuff with Kevin Gates yeah Kevin Gates I got a lot of dope podcast episodes right I've been doing

podcast for like three or four years yeah went a low but um but and very inconsistently yeah I was when I first started yeah so now I'm starting to be more consistent what is your podcast do you have one now yeah it's called lions owls and elephants okay it means nothing he's just a cool name people think like oh what's the meaning like no i just like those animals yeah yeah so i i i enjoy doing that the most podcasting me too yeah me too man so um you've been in the in the game for so long like you've seen it all you've done it all uh what do you think about like the current state of this whole i i know i got an i got an opinion on it right now but what do you think the current state

of the fitness industry's content in relationship to everything that we've done and kind of how people are moving through it now? I think we're still the gatekeepers. You know what I mean? There's nobody, because you have to think like when we all came up, it was shocking, like what the fuck?

Like that video with us. That was like 16 sets of heavy bench pressing. You know what I'm saying? We were fucking crazy. And like you got to think about like why these videos did well. The editing, the music. That one was just,

raw lifting but usually some cool music beats we dress cool you know we're being it's like cool dude not like the bodybuilder pants the tank top you know what I'm saying it's like it's like more relatable you know what I'm saying yeah so there's been no I haven't seen anything that's blown me away yeah nothing like it's just boring you know what I'm saying yeah there's a lot of uh it seems like it's a lot of monkey see monkey do now at this point there's not a lot of and it makes sense though because over time you know the kids growing up saw the stuff and like oh I I want to be like this or do it like this and then it's a lot of repetitive type of content. Like, you know, I mean, even the inventive TikTok and how it even pushes like a sound,

you copy a sound and it's training and you just copy another sound. But no, I think it's, I think it's interesting because there's definitely a new wave, but I think it's almost more rare for someone to come out of that wave or out of these waves and like really create a real brand, like such as yourself, like what we've done. I'm not trying to sit here and be like, yeah, look at me. I've done really cool shit, but I'm really, you have. have I appreciate yeah I just don't see I see like a lot of people more like coming and going now instead of like coming and staying yeah you know what I'm saying yeah what do you think that

is is why do you think that's happening the cream rises bro like I mean there's plenty of people from our like when we like really hit that ain't around no more yeah not even in shape no more you know so it's just the fabric of who you are you know like I was talking to my brother a mirror today and we were talking about his brother his brother making a ton of money with real estate right yeah i'm like it makes sense because we all like even if it's a different field we all connected certain people are connected with certain fibers certain types of fabric that you know they're going to excel in whatever space they're in yeah if you wasn't in this wherever you be at you'd be excelling you know what i agree like i remember somebody was trying to say like oh man i wonder

would everybody be doing it it wasn't no social media I was like, the people that's rich will still be rich. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, just a different way to get there. Different way to get it. Like, because everybody's doing social media. Yeah. But most people ain't, ain't killing it.

You know what I'm sorry? Go ahead. No, no, go ahead. What has social media taught you about success? Wow. Social media, and I'm sure you can relate to this, it is a, like you as an influencer, me as an influencer, whoever, we're like, we have like a microcosm of,

the world of the population of people yeah you know i'm sure you can see you can look at your sales and look at all your marketing analytics and see how predictable human behavior is it's extremely be predictable you know um you know with that comes i feel like comes great responsibility that people are trusting me or trusting you like what should i do yeah what what time should i go to bed for the gangs how often should i eat like like even my girl like like my girl asked me like what should I wear I'll go and find her something to even if I don't want to like people are giving us power you know what I'm saying so I don't squander that and I don't like take that lightly I appreciate it yeah so it be a lot of

shit that people may think is annoying annoying question whatever I answer that shit I'm right there with them so it taught me like to handle responsibility properly because listen these people are affording us a great life absolutely a dream you know what I mean we live a dream so I respect that I respect them and just like the Expos man like I would hate the slow drip like when this long line it's cool I'm hyped up yeah but the end of the day it's like six people left you ready to go one come one fill it up yeah it's stay like that for like I love those days though man those are the best but the slow drip I stay I'm not leaving but it's the most difficult thing because you think you see the end of the tunnel but you don't you know what

so but I respect these people a lot so yeah about success social media is it's just magnifying reality it magnifies the real world yeah you said something that I think was really important about the responsibility uh that like certain influencers have in a space because to me it might seem silly when someone asked me how many hours should I sleep and what should I eat because to me I know those answers very definitely because I've been practicing it for so long but the person asking me that maybe they're just like fucking second week in the gym and they're trying to figure it out what do you think about influencers who use their influence for bad because there's a lot of people in this industry now who build their brands off of tearing other people down I hate that I hate those

people like I'm a peaceful person but you know like my default settings is violent is angry. Yeah. You know, destructive. I can relate. And I'd be wanting to destroy people like that. I'd be wanting to be alone with people like that. And like, I want to have a show, bro. You just do this. A show called, like, why? And people that do fucked up shit, like sit down. Why? I want to know what got you to this point. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But, but, but nah, I don't, I don't like it. I don't like it. Uh, some, if people doing shit, I don't like, I just ignore them. Yeah. If it's close to me and I talk to them, you know what I'm saying? But I don't like it. I'm not going to go public trying to smash like bash anybody like fuck that shit people they try to throw me in that

shit like these people it's like you like and they never like big creators right so they want clout they want to the back and forth get some fans yeah it'll never happen first of all this doesn't even bother me like you might get slapped if you're my presence right but I'll never utter your name the funny thing is like these are the people who they always do it like in my case is those people who I've never actually met in person, never actually talked to. And if I did, then it was cool. And then the minute that they can get some sort of benefit

from talking shit, they do it on the sideline. And I just find it interesting. It's like a person could just try to talk to you, be like, hey, what's going on? But it's almost like this power struggle where that person is trying to leverage obviously your name or your brand or my name, my brand for their own benefit.

And it's interesting because it's like, I don't think the audience really sees that for what it is. I think they just go, oh, this person said this about this person. So maybe it's true. And it's kind of shitty because it's like someone just trying to slingshot themselves off of someone else's success. That's exactly what they're doing. Listen, it's so egregious when I've seen it a lot for me. Like, it'll look like my video.

A good picture of me, my name and the title. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. People are going to click on it. You know what I mean? I've had people, you remember with the Miami situation. With the gym. With the gym, yeah.

Like, I literally had nothing to do with this guy, right? my partner, my business partner, for his, that illegal business, but there were people like trying to make documentaries, Mike Rashid. Well, because you were the big name in that. Right, but it's like, it's silly for one. But one thing that do exist is there's a lot of weak people that hate strong people. So when it looked like a strong person is down, they all gather together like, yeah, yeah, I knew it. And I'm like, first of all, for those who don't know, my old business partner sold steroids as a doctor but he wasn't a doctor we all thought he was a doctor I thought he was a doctor I bought it from him yeah you know what I'm saying yeah but he wasn't so

he was under investigation and the feds came and got him so people try to associate him with me like I was selling steroids first of all I have legitimate businesses multi-million dollar businesses I don't have to sell steroids for one for two at the time I was just beating on my cases for my old shit from back in the day it would be so stupid of me right yeah for three y'all talk about steroids like y'all don't like all y'all motherfuckers take steroids yeah you got it ain't like his pedophilia you know what they were they were acting like it was the oh my god mike rachelid steroids in his gym i'm like all right well yeah whatever but one thing i always have faith in is like fuck it keep talking when the dust settles i'm still here yeah you know what i'm saying and those people that were actually

making content trying to like really make me look bad they're gone yeah you know you can't that's not a salad foundation no it's a it's a fucking terrible foundation I mean it's like that I said it before it's like imagine I was trying to get to the top and on my way of the top I'm firing at everybody who's on the way up there and then what am I what am I standing on top of right a bunch of fucking angry people who are like fuck this guy and at the same time like who do you even share with if you fucked everyone else over on the way up there and then if that's how you get there what happens to you? Yeah.

Yeah, well, it's like where do you go from there? Because if you're... But it's karma. Like, that energy you put out is going to come right back and slap you in the face. You know what I mean? Yeah. I struggle with that idea so much

because like you said, my default setting is violence. But like, I know that I can't. You know, I'd love to in certain situations, but I know that it's like, I have a lot more to lose. Right. And I struggle with the karma thing

because everyone tells me that like, you know, just karma's going to take care of it. Karma's going to take care of it. And like, I have this like fucking urge where I'm like, I just want to fucking. take care of it like I want to speak more on things is it when is directed at you or just stuff that you observe like when it's the negativity directed at you yeah okay yeah it's like dude like

there's so much like in certain situations that man if I just sat and told the story everything would change but then I go like is it worth it yeah I don't know yeah it's not worth giving that energy because I've done it in the past like and it's wasting energy on worthless people and the People that will believe silly shit like that, fuck them. Or I'm not going to say fuck them. They just don't understand. You know what I mean? And one day they will.

They're going to see you next week, next month, next year, two years still growing, still ascending. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And it's like, what do we, what are y'all holding on to? You know what I mean? Yeah. And what if we did make mistakes? Who the fuck's perfect?

Yeah. It's like people are out there virtual signaling. People are acting like their angels. Well, that's the thing I really don't like. I've been in cases situations where, like, people will talk bad about me, and I'm like, wait, what the fuck? And they'll, like, play a victim. And it's a very, it's very clearly done with intentions to make themselves look better, where it's like, where, where was this energy when I spoke to in person? It wasn't there.

It was gone. And then, like, people are like, why did you do this? It's like, what? This guy just got on the internet. Use fucking clickbait title. And now I'm having to respond to some shit. I really hate that when talk to me. Don't go and, well, Bradley just, like, nah, you know me.

Talk to me. Me and Rob Bailey was just talking about this the other day. Yesterday, he's seeing Charlemagne the guy in the airport. Yeah. I was like, oh, that's dope. Like, how was he in person? He's like, it's cool as fuck. And I was like, I don't agree with, what, no, I said, I used to didn't like him,

but I love that motherfucker now because I'm like. Why didn't you like him? Because I don't know. I thought he was negative, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But I like him because he's real. He's himself, you know what I'm saying? And he does a lot of good.

And he said, I agree. He says, yeah, we don't have to always agree with each other. I say, exactly. I think it's weird. for people to just agree with everything. For sure. Fake people, real people can tell you like, I don't like that shit.

I don't like when you said X, Y, Z. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Fake people ain't going to say that shit. Fake people will know that we'll have issues, like bad issues, because I've had it in fitness industry. Yeah.

Like, yo, we need to sit down. You know what I'm saying? Well, see me out and, hey, Mike? I'm like, nah, bro. Oh, yeah. And every time I'm like, nah, bro, nah, that ain't cool. Watch out. That's a frustrating part.

It's so weird. It's so bizarre. Have you ever had any experiences like that outside of the fitness industry? Because I'm wondering if it's like, is it? I don't know. I feel like I've been so engulfed in this shit for so long. Yeah. Everybody I know is in it.

I just wonder. And when I message you about doing the podcast, I wonder if it's like related to the like the masculine, like egotistical kind of nature of this industry. Because I know that this happens in every industry. I know that like the shit talk doesn't matter for your music, whatever the fuck it is. People go at each other for whatever. but do you think it has to do with the fact that it is so like you know how I look driven

it's it's ego like how strong I am what I look like I think the opposite I think the fakeness like that went in and shake hands when there's issues behind behind the scene I think that's like really insecure weak people who are not comfortable standing in their own flesh and be like I'm cool I don't like that motherfucker you know what I'm saying yeah it's okay to not like a motherfucker you know it's fine you don't mean we got to fight yeah you ain't got to fuck with each other that's fine like that's normal you know I mean I don't expect to get along with everybody I think I get along with mostly everybody right yeah but if me and somebody don't get along and I'm and there's one person I'm thinking of in particular who tried to

shape my hand at body power some shit in England and I like in front of all these people like now bro it ain't cool watch out because you knew because he did some other shit he did some foul shit I'm like now bro watch out of here what was he reaction you don't got to say the person he just like kind of put his head down and walked off but i still felt bad for him and went to talk to him later yeah and you know kind of squashed we talked about the issue you know people were kind of spinning the story to make it benefit them he really couldn't because it was so bad egregious what he did but we still talked about it and he's a human he ain't perfect like fuck it and listen people the issue with that was a greed thing

he fucked somebody i care about over bad right because a greed and fuck it ain't ain't cool but shit people are people yeah when they getting getting to it grabbing that money whatever if they see a vulnerability sometimes they expose that shit they they make it you know they see a little opening and they just make it wider just take so let's talk about this because that that makes me think of some shit in my life but I'm not I don't really want to get too much into it but right I'm curious though I guess this is more of a personal one of my own personal questions say that's happened to you many times like you've been sort of fucked over you've been taking advantage of um how have you um if you've been you know you i know you've been

in that in that situation how have you allowed yourself to continue to be open to you know business partners friendships etc even though you've gone through those things to be honest um i've been fucked over literally like actually fucked over once okay just once um and i wanted to do bad things to these guys you know what I'm saying oh yeah I'm calling I'm like, yo, what is your wife think? You told your wife this story? Like, how did you tell the story? Like, I'm going hard, right?

But, you know, everybody was like, stop, just chill. One thing I've learned is that I'm a powerful person in terms of energy. I got a lot of energy, right? And that shit can be very beautiful if it's directed in a positive space. Right. And a negative space is very destructive. And it could be an incident to where somebody fucked me over and I lash out. I'm worse than them because I'm so much.

I'm a lot to deal with you know what I'm saying yeah so I end up being the back I'm wrong now like whatever they did to me is not even to forget about it look what you did to them you know what I'm saying so I've learned from bump in my head like that so that's happened before so I learned I grew out of that so like those guys that that fuck me over I'm thinking about I just I held myself back it was hard you know what I'm saying but those guys are I don't know where they're at they're done yeah they make it a ton of money at that time you know what I'm saying they're done so what I've learned is when somebody fuck you over, step back. As long as your hands are clean,

your conscience is clean, just step back. And they will unravel themselves. Yeah. Like, the universe is fair. Sometimes I just want to speed that shit up, though. I feel you, bro, but it's like, it's happened enough times to where I know it's fine. Like, everything's fine.

Yeah. I'm good. I'm good. I feel bad that they felt the need to have to do some shady shit like that. Because I would never do that kind of shit. Yeah. You know what I know you dealt with stuff in your past. Like, you said you were dealing with, you know,

when you were talking about the whole steroid story in the gym, you were already dealing with cases. What was like the most significant thing that you ever had to deal with legally? I mean, shit, my case, like, you know, it was a body. Yeah. You know, with self-defense, but I had to defend, I had to prove, I mean, it was pretty obvious,

but, you know, they scared me, you know what I'm saying? The government, and so I went on the run. Yeah. Like when you met me, when everybody made me, I was a fugitive. Yeah, I remember. I remember. Nobody knew at the time.

It's so funny. Right, right. And it was weird that I was on social media because I didn't want, that wasn't the plan. It happened by accident, you know what I? How did that happen? I was posting, like, clients, you know what I'm saying? Their progress, you know what I mean? First it was Facebook and then it was Facebook and IG.

Man, what a fucking simple, beautiful time. Right. And YouTube and YouTube is like, this is great. I could like show there, instead of a before and after the picture, I could show when Jen can only do one. pull up and actually could do 10 that's impressive yeah it's getting me more clients and once in the blow and I throw a video of myself up there you know what I'm saying people loved it you know what I'm saying so it started going viral so I was like maybe

they don't care you know what I'm saying maybe it's cool because my my audience was all cops yeah that's so you know what cops and military they love that hardcore shit hardcore training and that mentality so I'm like maybe they don't care but listen I tell you this at the end of the day when I finally had to face my my charles And when I'm sitting in front of the judge and it was time for me to like, I'm going to prison or not, there was cops on my side speaking on my behalf. And you never see that. You know, so, you know, the time that I was a fugitive, it was, I've seen it as a grace period for me to prove to myself that I'm not a criminal or a bad person. Yeah. And I, and I proved you. I made the right decisions. My father always told me this. He said, son, we're people of character. And you don't build character in good times. You build it in hard times a fact when shit is rough all right now what you're going to do you ain't got no money what you're going to steal you're going to go a lot to get some you know what I'm saying yeah no you go get a fucking job you humble yourself you know what I'm saying yeah so that's what I did

like everything that I did it was a lot of decisions a lot of crossroads a bunch of crossroads right and my fear and my anger and my emotions want me to go this way but I would just go this way have you ever fucked up though I'm assuming some of these crossroads you had to On those roads, I didn't. I fucked up. I made mistakes in my life. Of course, we all have. But during that period, bro, I kept it pure because the stakes were way too high.

Yeah. Because it wasn't like a year in prison. It was like 15 years. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And that was without the fugitive enhancement. It's a thing called FOJ enhancement, fugitive of justice.

You embarrass the government and you cost us a lot of money because we had to come find you. So whatever you get is aggravated. So if you're getting 15 years, you probably do 20, 22 years. They add on to it. They add on. Just like my bond initially was 180 grand. But after they came and got me, it was 500 grand. Isn't the paying bonds, is it only like a percent that you have to pay?

10 percent, but 50 grand is a lot to pay versus 18. Yeah. And you got to have that kind of collateral. Yeah. You got to have that. You know what's funny you said about the cops being on your side because they probably watch your content. I remember when I was dealing with the whole state of California suing zoo culture

for being open the whole time like I had the cops who were like trying to talk to the judge and be like yo this is fucking stupid like let this guy go and eventually I think it helped out because what I ended up doing was like working with the actual police department and some of the like the first responders right um not necessarily for a dismissal but like in lieu of doing anything else which is like hey like this was kind of because we came to the conclusion that like we were washing our hands of it and it was kind of stupid and so I basically was like well I'll make sure I'll like do this stuff with some of the first responders but did you during that whole COVID thing what did you think I guess my question is when you when it was like three four months in this is like the

beginning of COVID did you see it for what it was like like the bullshit of what it was well in the beginning no I was like like everybody else scared oh shit what is this yeah but then I research a lot like in my office like we're like we become legit researchers on everything right yeah so So because of the types of products, the type of products that we produce. Yeah. So now I just like learning shit and I know how to research shit, right?

Yeah. So I was really fascinated by this COVID shit, right? So I just researched viruses and reading everything I could. And I'm like, this shit ain't that bad. Yeah. It's a cold. It's a new cold, another cold, you know what I'm saying? So, and I've had bad shit, I have pneumonia before,

you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I ain't scared of this shit, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, the more. you research you saw all right i see what it is now maybe three four months i got it but i didn't care i wasn't tripping because here's the thing it's about money yeah well that's it's not about nobody wanting to control you just to it's about fucking money yeah you'm saying i get it i guess and i had to be honest with myself because you know in a hospital just like jail is interesting you know all of these entities get subsidies from the government for every person yep right now with COVID it's a new

thing so is extra money being given for each person with COVID yes like a lot more like the difference of like $100 or $2,000 you know what I'm saying yeah I'm reading about all this shit that's good business that's why that that's the thing that fuck me up is that but most people when they heard about all this stuff they're just so enamored with the fear of it right that they don't look any further they just look like if you're not listening to what they're saying you're doing something wrong. Right. And I remember going through this whole COVID thing. And I remember knowing in the beginning, I was like, I remember thinking to myself, how the fuck are they ever going to prove like if they said, you know, close you down your gym because of COVID, right? Whereas like Costco and all

these other places are open. It's completely fine. It's like, but my gym has to close. The mom and pop's got to close. It never made sense to me. And I was like, okay, like, if I went to court, wouldn't they have to prove that like my gym was a problem? So like, are they going to isolate a single person who got COVID and then prove that they never went anywhere else and they got COVID from the versus like but here's the thing is like gyms don't have there's no big gym conglomerates you am saying yeah there's grocery conglomerates you know saying yeah they're gonna stay open they got enough firepower and enough influences with their money to like lean on these politicians yeah i'm i'm friends with politicians now i got friends that are politicians i understand this

yeah so none of it bothers me i get it i like yeah this is what they're gonna do this is what they it's what they've always done this is what this is how the world is you know what i'm saying we can like change change nothing's going to change however i think that generation after generation collectively people's consciousness is rising for sure you know what i'm saying and it'll be different maybe not in our lifetime but things will change what do you think are some of the biggest driving factors in that consciousness rising because i agree with you 100 percent i mean think about our species of human right is around 200 000 years old right yeah yeah Um, so, but we've been kind of civilized, maybe 10,000 years, right?

So the amount of time we've been on this planet, only a blip, we've been kind of civilized, 10,000 years, but 100 years ago, women couldn't vote. 200 years ago, black people were slaves. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So you see, like, we're not that civil. So when you go further down this, the timeline, it's like a spectrum of us being animals, because we are animals, right? Yeah. but us act behaving like animals to us being evolved beings evolved humans right with empathy

with with uh you know self-awareness with uh more consciousness consciousness right so you know know as time goes on people become better yeah i agree you know what I'm saying people become a little smarter um a little wiser a little uh they care about others more you know what I'm saying yeah so just like I mean shit they were telling like the colonists was telling motherfuckers through science that black people were just animals you got to we got to look we got to like save them and let them work for us you know what and people was buying it but then after after a while it wasn't like black people didn't get free because we wanted to be free it was all the white people were like yo this is

fucked up bro yeah but it took time you know what I'm saying so with time things get better and people become better more evolved you know what I mean yeah I wish we can accelerate that process, but it is what it is. Yeah. I think people that are somewhat evolved have more fun when everybody else saying, you know what I'm saying? For sure. Yeah. I think it's because you're open, your willingness to like more possibilities and opportunities are there because you're less focused on maybe what's happening to you and what you're capable of doing outwardly. Because think, look, things will happen, right? So we have a super fucking power, bro. Facts. A super power called perspective. Yeah.

I always say only good things happen to me. There's not one incident in my life that someone can put, say that this was bad. I could tell you all that shit was dope. That was good, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I consciously go into any situation. If it's not ideal, I make it ideal.

I ride the wave. As much as you can. Yeah, I don't let, like, I don't, like, like, like, like, like, let the time do you. You do the time. Like, nothing happens to me. I happen to it. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Nothing gives me a bad day. If I have a bad day because I'm being weak and allowing my emotions to flavor my behavior in a silly way. You know what I'm saying? And I recognize it and snap out of it.

But, you know, for me, that takes a lot of inner work, you know? But, yeah, I think everything is smooth. At what point in your life did you start to become more aware of consciousness and the thought of these things? Because, like, to people listening, they're probably like, what the fuck are you? Some people are for sure, like,

what the fuck are you talking about? I fully relate and I fully understand to like the power of your thought, the perception of what's happening to you, the intentions, the words that you speak, the things. I totally understand that. My whole life is a depiction of that. In fact, like you said, snapping out of certain moments, I, like when I was in my worst in my life is when like I didn't pull myself out of it. And it wasn't because just things were happening to me. It's because I wasn't fucking pulling myself out of it. Right.

So at what point in your life were you realizing, oh shit, these things. things are a lot more important than everything else. I guess whenever I would, when you asked me about those crossroads when I would make the wrong decision, like each one of those lessons that I failed, I learned. It was like, damn, I failed that test. I would consciously be saying like,

fuck, I fell the test today. You know what I don't like failing. I don't like losing. So, you know, when you go through so many things, I've been through a lot of shit in my life, right? I'm a risk taker. I'm a very dominant, headstrong, let's go type of person, right?

So with that, it's a lot of fly shit that people see, but they don't see a lot of the hardship that I deal with because I'm always putting myself out there. But me putting myself out there so much and during so many things that are not ideal, you learn from that shit. And you know what it looked like the next time you deal with it. You know what I'm saying?

So the next time you deal with it, you make a better decision. Yeah. So I have a friend who I explain the same thing to this person. They're younger. and they don't seem to see good in bad situations. And I could say, hey, I know there's good. Like, for example, just the one that I've always talked about,

like my father passing. It took me 20 years for me, because it happened when I was six, for me to start to be like, wow, this kind of makes sense. And I can look at this differently for the betterment of myself and people around me. But it took me 20 years to realize that. So to the people who listened to this and they're like, what are you talking about? like you know my dog died or my mom died or my whatever my brother died or my my close friend died

there's no good in this right so those people who are at that point what sort of advice would you give them and i'll chime in on this too what sort of advice would you give them to create good as soon as possible right well i'm not going to say as soon as possible yeah especially a situation when somebody die you lose somebody you love takes time because i lost somebody i love and the shit is was hard bro it's still hard right now right but and i i sat in it like fuck it i'm gonna sit in this i'm gonna be i'm gonna be sad like you know i didn't allow it to um paralyze me from getting up and working and training and all these things because i'm not a loser you know what i'm not letting nothing hold me back from progress right so but emotionally i had to wear that shit and i cried a lot

bro honestly yeah i fucking cried a lot you know what i remember one day i'm in asana i go i went a little bit late we got a little crew we go like we go train at like seven in the morning i went like seven 30 so everybody was way done before me so i'm in asana by myself and i fucking i'm like yo i'm the saddest person on the planet i'm not gonna you're good i was like i'm the saddest person on the planet right now and i fucking weeped but fuck it i needed to do that yeah because you all that shit in is not good you know I mean but you have to be strong enough to keep getting up every day and doing the work yeah going to the gym call your mom like I didn't want to talk to nobody but I was you know and for a minute I didn't you know what I'm saying yeah but I started getting out of that I start really

trying harder and harder harder and I would just tell my friends like yo but I'm not good right now you know and then I got tired of telling that shit I know they probably getting tired of me here tired of hearing right so I started getting better and better and over time I got good with everything you know what I'm saying yeah still missed this person I'm not gonna ever lie about my feelings of course I have no ego with matters of the heart or with people I love and care about no use in that none so they like you still but you know this because how old are you I'm 45 yeah so you know this to do a lot of time a lot of experience right that's the thing because I know a lot of people listen to this may not be 30 45 may not be 35 it may be

fucking 21 19 18 I know there's a I do have a generally older demographic but um Like you said, I think it's really important for people to hear it again is sitting in it. Like being in that. But at the same time, like you also said, don't like, don't soak. Like you do have to make movements. You can't just wake up every day and be like, I'm going to be sad because I'm sad. Be sad. Feel it.

Cry. Don't be afraid to tell someone who's also important to you. Hey, this is how I feel like you said reaching out to friends. This is all essential. But like at the end of the day, at least once a day, try and do something to like pick yourself up. If it's like, okay, I'm going to spend. the next hour and I'm going to, I'm going to try to plan, you know, what I want to do with the next six months, or I'm going to fucking read this book that's a self-improvement book

or something that's helping you step, like, even if it's just inch by inch away from, like, that daily fuck this sucks mentality. You know what really helps me? Do you meditate? Always. That helps me so much, so much. So I've been meditating since about 2015. And it's funny because I learned how to meditate in anger management.

And the teacher, the instructor, he never called. call the meditation he's had breathing exercises right right and then i was in a situation one time when i needed that shit and i did i was in the middle of an airport i was like i just i didn't care how i looked and worked on my breathing uh uh uh exercises and i was good for like a week like just easy just peaceful wait after that in the airport moment yeah okay that was my first time really meditating but i didn't even know it was meditating outside of him and anger management telling yeah but in the class i wasn't i probably fall asleep you know what i'm saying yeah fuck this boring in there you know so So, but, but I went in with an open mind listening to him, you know what I'm saying?

But I guess in that moment I didn't need it, right? But when I was in an airport at one particular day, I needed to just chill because I was hot. And I did. And I've been doing it ever since. And then I started learning about meditation. I'm like, oh, this was meditation. And I appreciated him so much because he gave, he was giving it to dudes who would not want to hear that shit in a digestible way. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. To where we still received it. And I, well, I know most people didn't, but I, at least I got it. you know what I mean yeah and fuck I live by it bro I live by it when I'm not meditating

I'm off you know what I'm I'm an avid believer in meditation I always find it funny how it's always it's like you know in school

and they're like not reading that fucking book but then when you find the book on your own outside of school you're like wow I needed this book right right right even like T

he'll tell me about a show or something I remember back in the other I was talking about this Dave Chappelle he was like Dave Chappelle I like man fuck that guy right fuck Dave Chappelle

this is years when we When we first found out of it. I love them too. Like, that's my guy. But anything that's new, I don't want to hear nothing about it. Or people tell me about it. And then I'll fuck around and find out my own.

Like, oh, shit. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, but yeah, I'm the same way. Medity. You tell me, just like when I learned how to drive. Yeah. Like stick.

My friends try to show me, I can't get it. I went out the next day by myself, it was figured it out easy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Remembered a couple things they said. And, you know. Yeah. So meditating.

How do you meditate? How do you practice it? I practice what's called mindfulness meditation. And it's basically it's a practice of being so in the moment. So I sit somewhere quiet, but I can, I've gotten to where I can do it in places that's not quiet as well. And I close my eyes or not. If there's a lot of people around, I don't want to look weird.

So if I'm just sitting there chilling, they don't know I'm meditating, you know. But typically I like to do it alone and I close my eyes and I just focus on my breathing. through my nose out through my mouth um i focus on nothing but the breathing you know what i'm saying and the exercise is when thoughts are coming i blow them shits out i'm yeah let them go i keep them out there and that's the exercise and then i have this focal point that that i start to see without my eyes i see my like an inner mind's eye and it's right in this i call it the center of the universe in the darkness yeah yeah and i when i'm there and then it's like it's as if like a black hole is pulling everything in and whatever it's pulling in i don't know

you know what i'm saying but that's when i'm getting my medicine that's when it's working you know and let's say a five minute sit down i might only get in it for like a minute yeah 45 seconds but that's enough you know what i'm saying the longer i the longer i sit the more i'll get in it you know i'm saying yeah so you know i did a lot of research on meditation and um yoga is actually meditation right we use it for exercise because it works for that too but um when the yogis used to go into or the monks will go into meditation and i understand it because like i had to be before i had to be in fucking silence to meditate any sound i'm out of it right yeah then they got to where i can be around people and meditate yeah i could be in noisy places to meditate so what they would do

they would keep escalating that to where a fucking let's go in a cold and meditate let's put ourselves in weird uncomfortable like it's challenging as possible right and still get into that center that space right and that's incredible i ain't nowhere near that you know what saying yeah but like maybe one day when i'm older and you got shit to do yeah i'll go on some monk shit yeah that sounds fun dude it does bro i don't go lie it sounds really fun i just got shit to do though yeah i got a lot to do you know what all right guys so our next partner is athletic greens a product that i use all the time and to be honest like i've used greens products for shit the last like i want to say 10 years so these are definitely products that i really really believe in i really stand behind um this one's

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learn and I've taught myself to no matter what comes to my mind like not fight it because my one of my biggest issues in my life in general is is trying to control like my thoughts or control my direction or control the things in my life and it and it's kind of been one of my really biggest blessings but also can be one of my biggest curses so when thoughts come in I try not to like dissect them I just go it just I try and remind myself it is what it is right and let it continue to go don't hold onto it don't try to like organize it just let it come in and however long it stays i let it stay until like you said i'm focusing on my breathing but my mind because i don't know if you relate to this or not but like i'll get thoughts like just on

almost like multiple different levels at the same time like this will be going on this will be going on yeah i can think about someone some said earlier at the same time but i kind of let it all come and go as as it pleases and like you said i only focus on my breathing and I just keep focusing on that because like my thoughts will if I don't I'll go back to that like topic and I'll try to dissect it yeah and a lot of times it like it doesn't allow me to fully relax to get to that point where I'm like okay this is this is what I came here for and another thing I realized meditating I don't know something with heat dude something with heat that has really like I'm looking back now it's like all the times I've done

like because I've done Epsons salt bass for years and originally just started because I was just trying to like feel you know better from from hard workouts I'm like, oh, I need to get these aches and pains out. And then I realize I'm taking all these baths like two, three times a week. And every time, I swear to God, every time I take these baths, as soon as I get out the bath, I'm like, oh, this is a great idea. This is the solution to this problem. And I'll write it down and I'll have like the perfect content ideas or like, you know,

oh, I've got to have this conversation. I could sort it out like this. And it was always after that. So I think there's something to heat because in the sauna, like, you know, hours after, I get really good ideas. the bathtub I get really good ideas there's definitely something to heat man I don't know have you ever experienced anything like that

all the time bro I do Asana every every morning so I can definitely relate with the good ideas or just good we have good conversations in Asana yeah great I love it and but I start like when it started getting uncomfortable that's when the work starts for me yeah like oh shit you know what I'm saying

so I don't do infrared sonnas because I want the stress from the heat you know I've done them here and there if that's all I can get to, but I got to sit in there too long. You know what I mean? Yeah. But like the sauna where we go, it'd be like 180, 190. That shit is vicious, bro. You know what I'm that's amazing. That's the best. Yeah. But, um, but I think what it is is the sauna, it may feel like it's an easy place to meditate because shit, you need to chill the fuck out. You know what I'm

saying? But, um, but I think that, uh, being for me was difficult. is meditating when you know some downtime or not even downtime just taking time out my day to sit and meditate that's when it's it's more work for me because it's harder to do that because i want to be doing shit yeah like my mind never stops that's why you know i i have problems sleeping sometime because my mind don't shut off you know what i mean so for me to go and sit and take some time out to meditate that's work for me and that's good anything difficult for me is good for me yeah well i think that's for everyone yeah i just see people people are more apt to like avoiding the hard shit because it's easier to avoid the hard shit i mean that's like anything we talk about like trying to become a better

person in any respect is like it's it's 99% of time it's not about someone else or something that happened to you it's about how you're like you said your perception like we talked about earlier of it and looking in the word of yourself and being like okay where am i in this and like what how did i get here because like i think something like it's it's really common nowadays is like people I don't know taking responsibility for for where they are because a lot of people would just be like oh this happened to me because of this all this happened to me because of that it's like okay like at what point do you swallow the pill and you're like okay I'm here because of me and how do I fix this how do I look into myself and like be willing to say okay

these things at this place I'm at my life I'm not comfortable why am I not comfortable how did I find myself here what steps did I take to get here what steps do I take to get out of here And I think people are afraid to do that because it's much easier to be like, oh, it's that person and that person did it to me, et cetera. And I just think it's a terrible place to be. Have you ever been in any places in your life where you felt like it was someone else and not you relationship-wise? Some people are just different.

It's always on me. Yeah. Any shortcoming that I have is my fault. Yeah. I'll never blame nothing of my shit on somebody else, right? It's always, it could be like I had a situation recently where, like, Like, a million dollars of mine got taken out of my account, right, to this other institution. And they gave me the hardest time retrieving this money.

But it was my fault. I was moving fast, not paying attention to shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It was really, it felt really disrespectful and egregious. And the people on the phone was, like, rude, you know what I'm saying, mean? Yeah. But it was my fault.

You know what I'm saying? It don't matter. Like, whenever we're in a diseased situation and dishees me, dis and ease, the absence of ease. Uncomfortable, yeah. We put ourselves in that spot, you know what I'm saying? Unless you're born into a fucked up situation, which that sucks. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. I think that life is fair, generally speaking. Right. There are some weird situations that happen, but I think for the most part, life is fair. But back to the meditation, I have another, I guess it is a meditation, but it's a sacrifice, and I fast every Wednesday. About sacrifices? Yeah.

Fast sacrificing food. I know. I'm fucking with you. So every Wednesday I fast, of course, for autophagy. The whole day? Yeah, 24 hours. It's not that bad. Of course, for all of the physiological reasons and to be healthy, but I have an intention

and going into it of being receptive to communication. And I tell you what I mean. Like, I try to communicate well, properly, effectively, right? I'm not a fan of people that talk a lot. and don't say anything. I'm like, what the fuck? You know what I'm saying? Or even books.

Like, I read a lot of books and then I got to a point, I'm like, this is stupid. Like, this 400-page book is only 20 pages of information in it. Give me a 20-page book. I'm all right with that. I just want the meat.

They wanted to hit the quota. I don't want that shit. Like, we don't want that shit. It's a waste of time. So I want efficiency in life, right? So unless it's music, then I want to enjoy that. You know what I mean?

Sex. I want to enjoy that. Certain things you want to enjoy. you know what i'm saying but most things i just want the what the purposes you know yeah so even with me so communication is always something that i'm trying to work on but i have grown to understand that there is communication and thoughts that we have that can't be quantified by words i mean you're talking about like body language and things like that's part of it yeah but there's thoughts there's things on our heart that is no words for

you know what I'm saying like I did two IQ tests right just out of curiosity and the most recent one there was a section where there's shapes right they all look the same when you just glance at it but some of them might be different but they're oriented in different plate different ways so it's always timed by proxy so you have to determine if these are the same shapes or not right okay there's no talking to think to figure these things out it's just thoughts you know what I'm saying so thoughts and language is not, they don't go hand in hand, what I'm saying. Just like a baby who doesn't know how to speak yet, they think many things. They figure shit out without any language. I think it's more about feeling, right? Whatever it is. It's about thoughts, right? That's on our

heart and our brain, that it could even be something that we want to communicate to each other. You've ever been in a situation, you're trying to explain something to somebody, you just can't nail it. Yeah. Right? Or you could be in a different country. They have to be. They have literally different languages. Yeah, they don't even understand. Different words. But they get it. Different words.

You know what I'm saying? So you probably can't even properly articulate what you really want to say because y'all don't have a word for this. And they do. Or vice versa. You know what I'm saying? So I've come to understand that language is an inferior method of communication. Right?

So I want to have better communication. Whether and I want to be receptive to what people are trying to really say, right? We were talking earlier about certain things how some people might say things with their mouth but that's not what they mean. You know what I'm saying? And it's I guess we would call it a lie but even that is a misrepresentation

of what they're doing. They just don't know how to say what they want to say. And they might say something that they think we want to hear so they're agreeing to something that they don't want to do, right? Yeah. But it's what we want.

Well, this is not even just talking directly about like words in a sense it's just talking about almost understanding of self where you're at others yeah right of course myself but i want to be receptive and and to understand what people are really trying to say to me yeah you know what i'm saying because i'm such a robotic person with certain things well you said this so that's i relate to you and that shit ain't cool yeah i relate to you heavily so i've dealt with i just dealt with i was talking earlier i didn't go too into detail but that's something that i dealt with I had to sit back like damn this person wasn't saying that they were saying this yeah and I wasn't

hearing it you know what I mean so I don't ever want to make those mistakes again so I've been working at being more receptive to understanding what people are really trying to say yeah so what what sort of practices do you do so if you're in a conversation with someone are you asking more qualifying questions when people are giving information yeah I'll ask questions you know I try to you know people I'm a lot you know so I ask a lot of questions I always do that because look I guess when I was a kid my mother my mother I was like bad at Victorian I was like a straight-A student really yeah I was so bad at school I was good fuck my mother I was afraid of my mom she was like I don't care how late you are after class don't leave that class unless you

understand what your teacher was talking about so ask questions so I always ask questions you know what I guess I've always been on that trajectory to really understand because look you're taught like i tell my son like yo speak up be emphatic with what you say don't waste your time talking if they can't hear you or understand what you're saying yeah you know what i'm saying and uh that's just try to that's how i try to live my life i want to be effective with what i'm saying yeah where i'm trying to communicate yeah i think communication is the most fucking important part almost just in in life in general yeah like trying to get better at your own you know your own voice and it's interesting because it's not just like your voice but like you like we're

talking about earlier it's there's so many other things like the vibe the energy like is you you ever meet someone you're like you know right away like this is there's a weird thing here without any word said um i think a lot of people aren't aren't really even aware of that but it's something to look into it's something to think about um i i i don't know i guess it's like we're we've never really been taught this kind of stuff unless you like go search it out for yourself correct you're just kind taught this from like there's no curriculum for i guess spirituality and when i say spirituality i mean one being at one with every aspect of himself right you know what i'm saying mind body nature technology whatever understanding and just getting you you like cars right yeah i love cars

not as much as the next guy but i love cars and i love driving right and i'll be telling my friends like yo went like going through the hills or whatever late at night music the vibe i feel like i'm me and my car is one yeah yeah like it's me just you know what i these guys back here for sure feel that so so so probably probably like how people who buy horses feel you know what i'm saying yeah like i feel like one with the car like i like i think and you know who i am as a person and my trajectory of you know of my own singularity like i love the things that i love that much you know what i'm saying so even people i love i'm like yo we're the same we're together we're connected right and i'm i'm bringing this up back i'm gonna go back to the communication part

so i was in a situation where someone i really fucking loved right i couldn't communicate properly that's here i had it all right here and what i had would have been suffice if had i communicated it properly but i'm jumping over the hurdles of my ego i'm trying to navigate this person's ego yeah my feelings like everything right this is a woman i'm assuming yeah yeah of course because this is the only thing like what i'm thinking about i'm like fuck i relate to that her name is evelyn okay and you know and i had it all right here but i had not i was such a baby and my communication you know yeah i just couldn't do it and i would be so frustrated like i don't know what to say i guess it's a rap or that feeling if like if i did you know

just said this no i never even got to that because yeah that would have been easy you know what i'm saying i wrote a letters beautifully articulated but it wasn't it it still wasn't it you know what i mean and that it i could not it's not a letter i have to be in your presence you know what i mean yeah you have to feel me you have to feel my energy my energy is strong but like i said earlier energy is not good or bad it's wherever it's being articulated you know what i'm saying so when articulated with the seasons of ego, emotions, yada yada, it's not going to be good. It's not going to feel good. It's going to feel heavy and pressure. You know what I'm saying? And it pushes people away. There's a movie, an old Kung Fu movie called White Lotus back in the day. And this

style is like just flow free. And if somebody try to punch you hard, the force of their fists, it pushes you away. Your power is its defense. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I guess. And I felt like, fuck, I'm pushing her away where all this passion and this, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I couldn't, I could not tap into communicating what was in my heart. Yeah, I think what happens is a lot of times like you might have exactly what's in your heart. I could speak this from my own perspective as well and my own experiences. I have like what I want to say.

I have how I want to say it. And I can even say it. But sometimes this is the thing that I think people fail to understand when it comes to relationships, relationship building or sustaining, et cetera. is that the other party is not ready for that yet. Or they're not ready for the way that you have to say it. Or maybe there's things that are they've, they've like built up defenses in their mind based around you, based on your past.

And like they haven't let those things down yet in order for you to come in and even make that effective change or that proper communication. And that's, that's one of the hardest things when it comes to like, I would say intimate relationships in general. And even for me and myself is like, I know that timing can, you know, could be so, unique for everyone that like no matter how much I feel or how much I want it to be a certain

way or how much I've wanted certain relationships to end up or be a certain way it's almost just like you you miss that timing you miss like being able to get that complete uh communication to someone in the way that they're able to actually receive it because that's one thing that's so changing with everyone because like you learn new things every day someone else learns new things every day like you go have a conversation could could hit someone differently than you know two, three, four, five months ago, a week ago, days ago. And I think it's really important for people to understand, like, in a lot of communication, you have to be aware not only of like what you feel and what you want to say and how you

want to deliver and what you want, how you want to come across, but also like, where is that person in their life, are like willing and ready to receive it yet? Because you might try to have a conversation with someone who's like, you don't know where they're at yet. And I think this is important in a practice of communication is before you start to divulge where you're at, what you want. Understand that where they are. Understand them first.

exactly and you know there was a lot of things that in my communication that I was trying to navigate as well that I didn't mention like your influences you know what I'm saying I'm like yo this is not a good source of information over here you know what I'm saying yeah this is not someone doing better than you you know what I mean so I'm thinking all of these things when I'm trying to communicate but a superior man with and I'm saying superior in in terms of like the general public right not like inherently better than people but someone it's okay to be superior if you've qualified yourself to be superior someone who's done to work someone who's done the work yeah should be able to properly articulate what they need to

regardless of these hurdles yeah obstacles and that's what that's why I'm fasting you know what I mean yeah so I'm sacrificing the comfort of food when I want it on Wednesdays with my intent on being better at communicating. You still train on Wednesdays? Yeah. Okay, of course. Of course. But see, I eat once a day.

I eat in the evening and I train in the morning. That's never been a problem for me. Yeah. I don't, like, if I eat and train, I don't have a lot of energy for some reason. Yeah. Yeah. I've always trained fast at too.

Yeah, it's interesting. It's better. I think I tell you, I think I know why. If you think about our ancestors, right, when they were hunting and gathering. Yeah, of course. They didn't go and hunt on a full stomach. No.

They chilled on a full stomach. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. A couple of days go by with no food, like, all right, it's time to go find food. You know what I'm saying? And they were effective at it. But I read about this, but we have a heightened sense of awareness and alertness on an empty stomach. Our brains work better. Memory works better. So the brain literally works better when we're fasted. Yeah. Because it has to. I mean, think about when we eat, when I eat, I want to kick my feet up. Oh, yeah. I want to take a nap, go to sleep.

Yeah. You don't, there's no like full mind state. It's a hungry mind state. You know what I'm Absolutely. Are we full, baby? Let's go get it. Like, nah. What other, like, I guess, you know, we're talking about fasting now. What other, and you've dealt with, I don't know how much I could say about this, you've dealt with some health issues in the past, right?

Some stuff, no? No, like what? Nah, I mean, when I was like 250, I remember getting my, this is when I was living in Miami. I was the biggest. I was swollen, no fat. You were 250? 250. How much are you?

I'm 250 right now, but I'm a little taller. Okay, yeah. I was like I got my blood work done for the first time it wasn't the worst but it wasn't good you know what I was trending towards being pre-diabetic right really yeah bro heavy is heavy our organs don't give a fuck and I was eating a lot I was eating a lot

that Miami food broke god damn oh bro especially I don't know if it was there when that whole situation gym was there yeah but have you been a cafe bistro the Cuban spot yeah it's like they have crazy like drinks and food. I mean, the coffee, the Cuban. I think they have all kinds of crazy food.

But it's right down the street. Was it a breakfast spot? Yes. It's a very popular spot. Anyway, it's a side note. What was the name of that spot we used to go to all the time? Me and Joey was out there every, fuck. It was like a guy's name.

But man, I'm there. But the food's amazing in Miami. Incredible. Yeah. Incredible. Yeah. Huh? No, fuck, man.

That's Europe. That's London. You tell about it. But now, it was a Cuban food spot. But anyway. Yeah. But now, I was. I was, yeah, I don't refresh me.

I don't know. Maybe I had some, I can't think of it. I thought I had salt some stuff, but anyways. What was it? What do you think? I don't know, something about blood pressure, shit. Maybe someone was just talking shit about you on the internet. I'd never even seen that.

Doesn't matter. But I'd never had that issue. No issues. So what have you done over the years to stay healthy? Like supplement-wise? So I think, I think at that period, me making a drastic change in my nutrition helped a lot. So then that's when I went to my intermittent fasting.

And my form is one meal a day. I used to do that a long time ago, too. So I went to that, and then for a minute, I went from to, like, every other day, no animal protein. You know what I'm saying? And then I seen that was easy, so I started, I went, I ate a vegan diet, right? I did that for like two, three years, you know what I mean?

Really? I tried it for two months and I couldn't do it. Didn't do it. Yeah. Fuck it was so hard. I couldn't do it here in Cali. When I moved back to Cali, I couldn't do it. But I found, though, it wasn't necessary.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'll just eat my meat with moderation. Don't overdo it. But all of that period, me just adjusting my nutrition was the best thing for me. You know, I felt like it started reversing, aging, like fucking better. You know what I'm saying? Like every sleep, okay.

I still, I have a hard time going to bed. Just like me. But when I go to bed, when I'm sleep, I'm good. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, the things that matter got better, you know what I mean? Are there any specific supplements that, you know, that you take, consistently? Yeah, I take a product called nectar. It's from my line ambrosia. It's just an organ support. It's delicious. So it don't taste like a supplement, but it's like heart, lungs,

kidneys, liver. It helps everything. You know what I'm saying? I take a lot of supplements. Not everything I take every day, though, but nectar is when I take every day. Mental juice I take every day. That's a new tropic, you know. But I take my protein every day. My planta is a vegan protein. I also found that, well, we came, we formulated the number one plant-based protein in the country, right? But because it tastes so good. And pound for pound, it can hang with any weight protein in terms of effectiveness. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. A complete amino profile and things of that nature. So, you know, that I do every day. I supplement that because I don't eat a lot, you know what I'm saying? So I'll have that with my meals or after a workout or something like

that so but yeah but those are the ones that I take but here's the thing I sell supplements but I tell people all the time you don't need supplements yeah you need a discipline lifestyle you know what I mean absolutely and you need to like the younger you are is when you should start adopting that because I was a trainer before in a gym and I would get people that the doctor was making them come get a trainer it's never too late but it's kind of too late you know what I mean it's a habit for me I mean, if you can get yourself in a position where, like, you're younger developing these habits, it's much, much easier to maintain. It's much easier to keep going. Right.

Instead of trying to get back into something, it's 10 times harder. I mean, that's just, that's how habits were. So as far as, like, supplements, obviously you have the line, everything you do. Before you had the line, did you, because I've always been a kind of individual that's like, I'm, like, researching ingredients and then, like, buying these powders and, like, bowls. That's what I used to do. Yeah. That's how I started my first company. Yeah. Yeah. So I remember like all like that's literally a shit, a buddy of mine, Brandon, I mentioned a few times on the podcast. He, uh, he actually beat ulcer of colitis. Like his doctor was like, you got to take prednisone all the stuff. And he's like, no, fuck that. And he like, he literally reversed this, this, I think it's a not a virus. It's a, it's a, what's a autoimmune disease.

It's an autoimmune disease that like you're supposed to, if you have it, you have it forever. And he has no traces of it. So anyways, me and him back in a day. This was this was, this was a. been like fucking dude like even before Instagram almost like fuck I was must have been 20 21 years old we started a supplement company completely flopped but it was it was like prior to that and during that we were just ordering bulk powders and we're like oh these is like these are cool ingredients at the time right I guess the reason why I'm saying this is has how has the supplement industry changed in your eyes you're in it you've seen it for a long time obviously me as well I'll answer this too, but how has it changed over the years for the better, but and also for the worse?

I think it's been more positive than negative. Yeah. Because it's a lot of brands now, so it's very saturated, so it's harder for people to come up. So it is only survival of the fit, the cream rises. Right. And also better in a sense that, like one of my partners, Mark, he's one of those guys that will go and do some independent testing on somebody's shit.

that he feel maybe Fugazi and they're not meeting their label claims and expose them, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. There's been a lot of that. So people are more apt to do the right thing now. Yeah, the hell to a different standard. Yeah, so that's a good thing.

There's still a lot of shitty products out there. Bro, back in the day, it used to be just like, and I interrupt you, I apologize. Like, just bullshit. Like straight up, like proprietary blends. The label, like, just trust us. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's, yeah, sources, trust me, bro. Right, right, right, right.

Like straight up. like this the best shit yeah just buy this it's it's crazy though yeah it's crazy how like it was like that and then i forget what company came along and then there was like all the stuff was just like everything started to have to be transparent otherwise like if it wasn't transparent like meaning you can't trust it you don't fuck with it not proprietary blend so before guys just you don't know like proprietary blends would be like there'd be these 10 ingredients and like the first one was the one that was the highest dose in that product but oftentimes they could put these words for the ingredients that were like that you wanted in a product but you could

could water down the whole thing just to say it wasn't the product right so that would be proprietary lens now it's like transparent as far as like this is 100 milligrams or a thousand milligrams of this and and that definitely is a big benefit to the industry and people's fucking pockets yeah um but then recently like i don't know the last two years you seem like the you know the i guess this has always been a thing to be honest where they're like you know the plant extracts like this kind of shit that you see in the end you're like dog i'm gonna say this when people will make it but there's some there's some good products out there are there's some good products out there are There's some good products, but when you see this shit in the magazines, if you like Anavar,

you'll love, you know, Enovar, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It ain't, it. Like, listen, I don't think steroids or hormones is bad. Yeah. But I think that if people are going to choose to do it, go through an endocrinologist, go through a real doctor. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Do it the right way. I've done it and I did it under the table shit, shady shit. You know what I'm saying? Luckily, I never fucked myself up. Yeah. But, you know, I'm lucky, right? But I'm not doing it any.

I haven't done it since 2017. And I won't do it again until I'm old and really needed. Yeah, I'm saying? Because I don't want to abuse it. And I know too many people, man, that I'm like, are you addicted? They'd be like, yeah, like psychologically, you know what I'm saying? Right.

They say, I'll never get off. I'm like, damn, I don't want to ever have to be connected to a plug in the wall. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And listen, like, honestly, like, I'm still striving to, strongest but I'm still strong as shit yeah I still look good so it is what it is so when I need it I'm gonna use it you're saying so I say like if you really want to go to that next level whatever to fuck do it the right way because you can you ain't got to be worried about shit you get your blood

blood levels checked you should because look everybody before you start by the way you start because you might not need it people have their your fucking your your crypto wallets your bank account apps on your phone that shit's important yeah but when you get blood work they send you the PDF you have it on your phone right that's more important than all that's more important you know saying so y'all got to think about that like y'all should be getting y'all blood work done regardless i was gonna say even regardless steroids no serrars i think you should know what the fuck's going on with your body period that's one of the most important things that i think it's not even talked about enough regardless of taking steroids or not is like you should just go get your blood work done at least every six months

at least every year at the very once a year i think but for us like i do it twice a year you know what I'm saying because one time I had to go to the hospital go because my body just seized up on me like there's cramps everywhere it was the worst pain ever and I had like beginning symptoms symptoms of rabdo myosis and shit yeah and it's a it's usually a condition that like crossfitters or like marathon or ultra marathon runners get it's just a constant breakdown of lactic acid which is so this is so funny because it just reminds me of your shit back in the day over training right yeah exactly but see look that was fine but what happened was I did it on a day. I was shooting for muscle and muscle and fitness magazine had two

shoots that day and one of the homies had a shoot that day too for them and I just kept I did it with him so I went a whole day without eating shit without drinking shit going hard and my body's like fuck you bro you know so that and that's just too much lactic acid being passed through your kidneys you're saying so yeah you know if you train hard you got to go get your shit check because you could not be taking anything and still get some adverse affects to your liver. You know what I'm saying? Or just like not knowing that like too much protein. Yeah. Or not knowing your vitamin D's low or like these your your electrolytes are off because you're not drinking up. Like there's so much you can know from just looking.

Yeah. And I think a lot of people get afraid to look because they don't want to know what wrong with them. But you like what you said about your boy, I think is in Brandon. Brandon. Yeah. Listen. Brandon Gerdis well. Most things can be reversed. Yeah. Diabetes type too can be look cancers, certain cancers can be reversed. There's a there's a doctor. I'm really fond of his name is dr jason funn i believe he's in canada but he he reverses his patients diabetes cancer by with adjusting their nutrition their diet putting them on mostly plant base for a while and having them fast periodically you know i mean fasting cures a lot of shit fasting's the best in the world it's the best i've been doing it you know crazy i've been doing it before it was ever really a thing

i just did it naturally like through school and then i remember do you remember you would you would remember this um lean gains do you remember that like the first the first it was like it must have been the first guy on the internet um who talked about fasting this guy probably anyone listened to this if you're any relevant now you probably don't know who the fuck i'm talking about but there was this guy when i remember reading about this and i was like oh fasting is the thing because i just did it naturally right and then i learned about it through this guy and then i remember doing more of my own research and be like wait this is actually a really beneficial thing for your mind for your body but fasting is like i did it unintentionally damn near my whole life

even while training heavy all this bullshit i think it's one of the most effective tools i agree why did you do it so much why did i do it when i first started yeah i didn't that was just how i was like i was never hungry when i woke up i was only hungry after activity so my whole day would go by and until i like did something physically active i wasn't hungry perfect time to eat like yeah it makes no sense to eat before that you haven't earned it yeah you know i mean that's how i see it see my thing was like my ego back in the day like i don't need that shit y'all go ahead go ahead starving go ahead i'm gonna work out empty you know what that's why or i'm gonna sit in the sauna no water dehydrated well that's that i do it though you still do that oh you're funny yeah if i take water

with me i i i literally turn into a pussy in there i can't handle it you know what the what it's just something weird that like i go in there with nothing i'm good i ride that shit out i never tell the guy, all right, let's go. If I don't have water. If I have water, I'd be like, all right, y'all ready? Really? What the fuck? No, no.

Wait, wait. I'm trying to understand where that comes from, though. But the water's not making you a pussy. It does. No. No, no. Water makes me a pussy. No, bro.

That's so fucking funny to me. It's about weird brain, stupid brain. Yeah, I think you just like the challenge. Yeah, but I got so used to it. Yeah. Maybe it's the, um, the ritual of not taking water. I'm, you know, the certain things. the challenge. Certain things, rituals, people got to keep intact. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. When they're performing. It's a little OCD. Yeah, it is. It's all good. It's all good. You know what I mean? But Brad, I got a question for you. A couple of questions. What do you do for fun? Because hold on, let me, let me, because he don't ever say this shit. I know he don't say this shit to y'all, but Bradley rich as fuck. Yeah. He popping. You know what do you do for fun? Dude, to be honest, man. Successful guy. Got a lot, not just successful, because there's a lot of people that are successful and nobody knows who they are. You know what I'm saying? You know. successful and popular to their family i everybody know you i uh bro i just i'd like to work man i'm so i don't know if it's a sense of like there's not enough time or like it's maybe

it's related to my fear of death i just feel like if i'm not doing something like in in that lane for for like growing for moving forward i'm not having fun and it's it's kind of fucked up because sometimes you know I mean I feel like I have a hard time 100% like appreciating where I'm at because I'm so grateful but sometimes I don't take time to slow down to to be genuinely grateful for it but at the same time how I got everything that I have has been through me doing what I love and that's why I think I'm so like enamored with work and why I like work so much is because dude when I started social media and much like yourself I don't know if you knew this but I knew this very clearly I didn't know

that I was going to do this now like there wasn't social media influence I was like oh I'm gonna do fitness and yeah I didn't know either yeah that wasn't a thing that wasn't a thing so when we started it was like pure I'm doing this yes pure because I love this and I started posting about it I didn't know that I was you know I was going to be able to make brands and make money and do brand deals and have all this shit that I have now, I thought like, yo, I'm just posting stuff that I'm genuinely passionate about. So I think because of the way that I started it

and the way that it grew, it was based off of like genuine like love and what I did. And that's why I love the work so much. Now, it's interesting that you ask me this question because at the same time, I have had moments where I almost fell out of love with the gym, with training, with social media, with making content.

Because of, you know, things that I was dealing with, in my past and drama and this and that. But yeah, for the most part, man, like, I just love working. I love doing this. Like, this is the, like, this is work to me because I get to shoot content, we talk and we share this and it's on iTunes or whatever the fuck. But like, genuinely, man, like this is enjoyable to me.

Like having this conversation with you, someone that I've known for years and we, until today, haven't recently connected for years. Right. And having this conversation with you and kind of seeing you here and there on the internet watching like you move and what you've been doing. Yeah.

I enjoy the fun. out of this like this genuinely is the most enjoyable thing to be right right so same yeah so like yeah it's tough for me to back away from work because i i love it so much like and i would say more so this type of content that i i mean i've evolved into this obviously over the years you're lifting the girls all the crazy shit the workout videos i still love doing that kind of stuff but like it's not as fulfilling as it once was right this though is the most fulfilling thing yeah and i i don't think this will ever really change because it's sustainable yeah and it's and it's just like and it's your building i like i can't lie about over the past month past 30 maybe two months i've been having the dopest experiences with my

podcast because it's a lot of people i'm just meeting for the first time i know who they are but we don't know each other but we sit down to have the best fucking dialogue you know what i mean and i'm learning from them too you know and we become friends um what do you have in your hand there brad i'll have some skin care stuff right here yeah girls like nice skin for sure well apparently this company tige handley makes it real simple uh to have nice skin i'm actually kind of new to this thing yeah you need to take care of your skin i'm not gonna lie i'm new to the skincare routine i'm new to the skincare game but i mean i will say this this does look very simple to use um i know it's like step by step they even got like a nice little towel this is

This is a nice little, this is a nice little addition. Yeah, you need a face cloth. Does this come with every, every time that I order? Probably not, huh? I don't know. I would hope so, but like you need a specific cloth for your face. You don't use the one you use for your body for your face because it's damaging to your skin. Oh, because I use the same.

Yeah, that's kind of gross. Anyways. Shout out to teach Hanley skincare directly for men. Obviously, like, you know, maybe not the most common thing you're like you and your boys talk about. But like, it's important, like she said, women like nice skin. And I'm not going to lie, as I'm getting older. I'm like, yo, what do I do to preserve my skin? In skincare, I know it's very important.

Especially like this, they have this AM thing, which looks like it's for SPF, like it has a sunscreen in it, which I know for sure something to age as you faster than anything is like kind of like in wrinkles and stuff in your eyes is like around here, it's the sun. And if you're a gym bro, such as myself, then you know how important the sun is because you also need a tan. So you look, you know, you look fucking juicy.

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I got to say this, I was hurt by you. When? Just the whole trajectory of our relationship. Really? And I don't think there's anything malicious. Yeah. It's not anything malicious, but it was like when you first came around, I remember Big Rob was telling me like, yo,

this dude Brandon want to link with you. He wouldn't do a video with you or whatever, train, whatever. And Big Rob will always bring people to me, right? Yeah. Because I'm like, there's antisocial kind of, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, who? Like, okay, whatever. I said, you like them?

Like, yeah, all, cool. And then we just bonded, we connected. You know what I'm saying? Like, like how that video I reposted the other day? Yeah. That's what I talk. That's the fuck I'm talking about, right? Right.

Because there's a lot of people that come around, but they're not down to go to hell like that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I'm like, fuck. That sure is fun. Even if you can't do it all, let's go. Let's try because we're going to motivate you to get it. You know what I'm saying?

like it's like like boxes two fighters they're talking all the shit in the world before before they fight each other right they both fight like men whoever wins wins whoever lose loses they best friends after that yeah they respect that man going to hell you know what I'm saying like a man with his head up you know saying so it's like that's my battle buddy like you know what I'm saying so but I felt like oh like over time like because my my shit is all pure if you see i don't have a lot of collapse at all right so it'd be like just people i fuck with you you know what i'm saying but i felt like with you i'm like yo does he fuck with me or is it just like because of where i'm out on youtube at the time you know what i'm saying and i really i never had this

conversation with you and i should have yeah as a as a man and as a friend was this was this when we were filming the content no like after okay because like say for instance simian like we connected we connected yeah we'll have dinner you know what I'm saying we'll hang out we shoot a bunch of fucking shit together you know I'm saying go to different country me I've been a lot of countries together you know I mean that wasn't just fitness related or work you know saying so it's like like I love like for me wealth and the things that I value the most outside of my family is deep meaningful relationships yeah I'm saying like

that's the shit so you know I thought that we was on that level yeah but it felt like like nah fuck this guy like fuck me you know what because it was just never I don't know the connection it was like uh all right I'm with foosey to you know what I'm saying or whatever whoever you know what I'm saying yeah and I never I never had that conversation with you you know what I'm saying and um you know I never said nothing bad about you to nobody but I know my energy was like, yeah, whatever, it's cool. I wish you would have, man. I know, I wish I would have, too.

Yeah. But we're here now. Yeah. This is good for me because, you know, I'm always trying to grow and be better. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know if you would call, but you talked to me about doing a podcast in 2020 when all of the shit was going on, right? And I was a little reluctant by like, I down.

But then one of your people called me or texted me the day of to cancel. Like it was the day of I like Well this must have been Well this one the gym was at the gym still It must have been I don't know 2020 though I know it's 2024 fat

Huh Because it was when all of this fucking The mask shit And like Really The um George Floyd And all that shit was going on

Yeah So My first voluptance was like Nah because You were like The fourth or fifth dude white dude that want to do a podcast with me during that time

and I'm like I don't want to be anybody's black friend you know what I'm saying the black the token black dude when the George Floyd shit was packing you know what I'm saying but I'm like yo that's my guy all right let's do it I was excited but then they like they said who who were you talking to I don't know whoever your assistant

at the time was yeah that's probably I had some bad assistance prior to Natalie shout Natalie the fucking goat right there Natalie that's the goat yeah no I've I've gone through a few assistants for sure me too i'm looking for one right now but my last one i love i wish she'd come back oh she went to dental school i can't let her go anywhere i feel don't i don't even let her i don't even let her go out tell him you want more yeah yeah no we got more coming for her we got more coming for her but now i look the value like bro i'm in my car doing shit while i'm driving and shit you know what i'm saying like yeah i should not be doing you know what i'm saying but anyway but

But, you know, I always fuck with you, you know what I'm saying? You remember we seen each other in Dallas or some shit with some, no, no, no, maybe the Arnold's? I don't know. It was some expo, and we were talking. I was in a Better Body's booth, but was on the floor and me and he was talking. I was like, yo, I fuck with you, bro. Yeah. Yeah, like that shit is real.

You know what I'm saying? Like Rob Bailey, I fuck with that guy. You know what I'm saying? Like, me and Rob would hang out when other than Miami, when there was nothing, he would come down and we'd just chill. Nobody even knew because it was like, this ain't social media. talking about some real life shit that he was working through you know what I'm saying so it's like that's me like I'm that guy I'm not a clout guy at all like it's a lot of shit that I could do to grow myself I don't even give a fuck you know but I like the deep meaningful connections

you know me too me too man so yeah that's all I apologize I wish I would have known that I had I just like I didn't even think about that for one second right that's so crazy how that shit works out. I'm glad you're here now, man. Yeah, likewise. And I, like I said, in the beginning, like, just on social media in general, there, there is definitely, I mean, even now, but back then there was very few people that, like, I really did fuck with. Right. And you were for sure one of them. Right, right, right. I obviously have had interactions with fucking everyone. But you were always solid. Yeah. So I, yeah, I don't know if it was like just what I was trying to do or what I was, like, what I was trying to get. Like, go after. But I never, yeah,

I never once thought like that at all. I think, I think you would. just rightfully so being ambitious for your goals you know what I'm saying and you were identifying what steps you needed to make to get to that next level and that's it so and that's nothing wrong with that you know what I mean um I'm the same way but I'm I'm like I'm really grounded in like people have you always been ground that grounded though there was never a point where I'm gonna tell you why because I didn't have family like that growing up like a big family everybody lives so far away from each other you know what I'm saying yeah I was the only child like I I go to a new school and like,

dang, he's my friends, like, I love these people. I pray for them at night, you know what I'm saying? Excuse me, but kids are fucked up and stupid. So they're always like hurt me, you know what I'm saying? Like talk shit or something. Yeah, excuse me, but I am very, like, I'm very selective when I think I have fucking quality people in my life, you know what I'm saying?

And like people, the people that we all work together, 20 plus years of friendship, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, and then like people I'm in the internet, that we really fuck with each other is like eight, nine, ten years of friendship, you know what I'm saying? So I have these long, dope-ass friendships with people, you know what I'm saying? And that's, that's, that's, that's, that's my high, that's my drug, I guess, you could say, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Also, Molly.

Also Molly. Have you ever done Molly? Yeah. No, no, I never did Molly, but I did pure MDMA. That's amazing. Have you done, you ever done mushrooms? Oh, yeah. Okay, good. Oh, God. I've done all of the, all of the psychedelics. Yeah. Yeah. The best, dude. What's your favorite? Bushrooms, straight. I have never, I'm not going to lie. I'm afraid of the next level with the LSD, the acid.

I'm afraid of it. I'll tell you something, man. I'm a fucking, I just know it's more geometrical and I'm like, ah, it's too, it's too intense for me. You're, it's the best. LSD is the best. It's literally the best. Have you got how, and now here's the, here's the real question, the magic question. You know what I'm going to say?

Yeah, ask me. Have you done ayahuasca? Oh, no, I haven't done that. Have you done DMT? Yeah, I've done that. I haven't done ayahuasca because I don't want to shit on myself. Okay. So you've done DMT?

But let me be honest, I didn't blast off on DMT. I smoked it with a little pussy ping. Oh, okay. So I watched someone smoke it out of a crack pipe. Like a glass pipe. I would not smoke nothing out of a crack pipe. Well, it's not like it wasn't like officially a crack pipe. I just want to make it's clear.

It wasn't officially a crack pipe. I wouldn't even hit a bong. It was like a, but it was it was a pipe you would smoke crack from. Yeah, it was a crack pipe. But it wasn't like it was used for crack smoking. And anyways, you get it, you grind it up, you put in the thing, you light it, right? And I was going to do it next. And I'll tell you why I did it.

Is his reaction? Yes. So he sits on a couch and he's like, he sits on a couch like this. And he's like, he's going to smoke it. He puts it to his mouth. He lights it. She smokes it in. He like sits back into the couch and he like kind of starts to close his eyes.

And then his eyes are just going like this in his head like for 15 minutes. But his eyes closed. But his eyes closed. and his eyes are just kind of moving around like sometimes stable they're moving around and then 15 minutes go by because I'm like I'm timing this he's like time it so I time it 15 minutes

Did you record it? Yeah I think I did I got to see it too I did but I don't even know if I have anymore but I'm spent on like an old ass phone like an iPhone one dude Anyways He comes back

And he goes He goes because he was like Tell me what I did And I was like I said how long do you think you're out for And he was like it reminds you 15 minutes he's like

this is the scariest shit he ever said it could have been forever so in his mind in his mind bro I swear to God like he and he goes on to explain how like you know there was zero like understanding of time and reference of time and what time felt like

like in his mind whatever was happening you know whatever shapes whatever colors he's seen there was no connection to time so it could have like you didn't even you weren't even aware that there was time to be had or that time ever existed or if you ever felt time so when he said that to me I was like oh fuck no I'm not doing this I'm not doing this that's interesting but I want to do it so bad I want to try it let's talk about that like he had no concept of time zero time is not real of course it's not

real it's a construct we just said time and we created clocks it's nothing there is I mean we are we do move forward though we are aging you know we're changing yes we're changing aging changing but time all right so you said we're aging what does that mean don't say getting older damn you got me that's exactly what I was going to say next um very literal I mean yeah like what you said we're changed but but that's listen we're getting all right so we are merely atoms which are molecules which are cells which are tissue bones, organs, and shit like that, right? So we are all of these

very tangible physical things, right? Yeah. However, there is something very... So we're terrestrial, but we have an extraterrestrial component, right? So something that is not of this earth, or something that can't be measured, can't be

quantified, right? Yeah. And that's our consciousness. Exactly. Or our minds, right? They don't know what a mind is. Yeah, there is. We just say mind, but it's not a thing. thing right but there is something in us because I think about I'm blown away by the fact that two humans can come together have sex and a baby comes out yeah it's a little with bones and organs

and a mind a consciousness you know what I'm saying yeah a personality a completely unique one bizarre right it's interesting so time is another one of those things that listen I feel like maybe they listen all right we live in we exist in three dimensions of space time that's what they say right so what a dimension is is very basic is just a set of directions right so there's creatures that walk this earth that live in two dimensions right so we don't even exist to them if we stand like let's say a two-dimensional creature would be some kind of insect that lives a few hours that doesn't have the ability to crawl and doesn't have a neck so outside of everything that it sees like straight across it doesn't exist so bird is not a thing to them there's no birds but we know

as birds. If we step in front of it, it just see a sliver of our feet from here down. That's it, right? So we're not real, but we are, because we can see him, right? Because we're in a three dimension, we can see in a two and a one, right? Now, scientists, they can calculate with math four, five, I think up to 12 dimensions, with equations, right? So that shit exists. You me outside of ours yeah additional dimensions so who's to say there's not some form of some being with consciousness what we call consciousness in that fourth fifth sixth dimension that can observe us and we can't observe it right who's to say that our consciousness is not a being in that those higher dimensions controlling us when it sneezes you know what I'm saying we get mad yeah you know what

me who knows right so but how are you relating this to time because that's another thing that it's a construct that we in our dimension we're so locked in on and we make it such a thing but it's not a thing it ain't it literally is not a thing fine time yeah it's not a thing now and it can't be measured right there are things that exist that we can't see that can't be measured like light we can observe 1% one percent of the light spectrum you know saying yeah so many like gas x gamma rays beta theta rays right uh x rays these are things that can be measured with certain types of filters on our eyes you know I'm saying certain type of goggles to see night shit at night see heat whatever

uh yeah you're basically saying things that we know are there but we can't physically see them ourselves without contractions yes Like we got all of these different devices, satellites and telescopes all out in space. Collectively, they can see most of the space of the spectrum of the color. Right. You know what I'm saying? So when we see those dope-ass images of the galaxies, we could not see that without these telescopes and these satellites and shit. You know what I'm saying?

So we don't see them, but they're there. But there's no measurement for time. It's not other than a clock. So we created it. Yeah. You know what I mean? So like a telescope, it sees something in his natural, current state a time is just telling us what we programmed it to say happens you know what

it's so weird but i guess it don't matter so but i don't know bro i can't help but to think about these things yeah and ponder on these things and the greatest some of the great thinkers of our day who have advanced society by figuring out shit and it's always with like uh uh just pondering on like gravity or whatever relativity and they might present it right write it out but there's no proof of it yet it's a theory and then over time scientists more people smart people study that shit and research that shit and they're like yo

this motherfucker was right yeah you know what I'm saying there's a lot of stuff like that idea and listen our ideas our thoughts this is so fucking powerful and crazy to me when I think about it our thoughts are a thought is a literal physical thing you know I mean it vibrates on the same frequency It's like a light wave It's like the same thing

You know what I'm saying And it can be measured You know what I'm saying CT scans all this shit You can see the activity They can see where this Oh our vision comes from back here And you're angry it comes from here

You're mad It comes from the limbic system All of this shit right So The odd thoughts Everything like Like people like people are always saying Like I hate when people like

It's not natural I'm like, everything's natural. Like, this shit is natural. You know what I'm saying? This shit comes from someone's mind, brain. You're talking about the creation of this thing? Yeah, the manifestation of it, right? Because it's an idea, it's a thought.

And for the people listening, he's referencing the mic, by the way. I'm sorry about that. Everything is a thought. It starts out as a thought. And I say thought to real, we got it. We got magic. We got magic in these fucking phones. The fact that we could be across the world seeing each other real time.

Yeah. talking to i'm i'm still fucked up over a record yeah how the fuck does a record play music yeah you talk about the one on the yeah i don't even understand that's yeah i mean there's definitely science behind that yeah someone could explain this but you're right that concept it's science behind everything yeah it's a process behind everything which is incredible right even explained i still won't understand a lot of it yeah yeah yeah yeah but it's right is wonderful to think about and you know who knows maybe at some point humans will figure out time or consciousness like what the fuck i think so i think so i took a long fucking time yeah yeah mean maybe not

i hope not yeah i want to see it i would love to see it but but hold on did you have you smoked dmt yeah but not i didn't blast off on it though what did you experience just just mild like relax it well the day i did dm t i did dm t lsd shrooms okay yeah yeah but not i had the time of my life have fun yeah i could be blast off on a lot of shit you would not know it yeah um what what what Have you ever had, like, a really, like, life-changing experience with mushrooms? No. No? With LSD, oh, yeah.

LSD. Well, it described that. So one day was me, T, my old assistant, Jessica, just come back. Fuck, school. Jessica, my homie, Andre, Andre, Bert, though, the boxer. And we was filming, it was a content day. And LSD, look, I found that it gives me fuck just so much, like, first of all, it makes me super positive and happy.

Yeah. I mean, I'm overflowing with creativity, right? and it gives me a lot of mental stamina, you know what I mean? So, all right, fuck it, I'm gonna take it to sex. Having sex on LSD, every time I've had sex on LSD, they're like, this is, I've never experienced anything like this. Yeah, I'm saying? Because you have men, you're creative, right?

You're loving, you love this motherfucker. You're more in tune. And you have mental stamina. Like, that's way more powerful than physical stamina. If our brain is good, we're good. Yeah. So, yeah. So anyway, so I think.

took it this particular day because I wanted to like knock out some dope content. This was 2020. Um, and I fucked up. I, so with the liquid, you have to dilute it. Right. And I never did that because I'm lazy. You know what I'm going to figure this shit out. Yeah. So I used to figure it out like the dropper. I'll fill it up and then let it out. And then a little bit that stay in the bottom of the bowl, the ball. That's all I need. That's a whole hit. Maybe a little bit more than a hit but that was good for me right right so this particular day i'm moving fast my name going on i don't feel nothing oh no yeah and then the last one i felt the whole oh there's a whole dropper i was like fuck try to split it out but it's right yeah it's too late so i'm

like let's see what happens i ain't even tell nobody's shit so we get to the gym and it started kicking in when i got to the gym but like normal like feeling good i'm doing tic-toks and shit like dancing like having fun, you know what I'm just jolly, jovial, you know, and then it start coming on more and more and more, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I had a conversation with myself, like I was telling her, I'm very aware of what these drugs do, right? Right.

So I know that it's just binding to my two-way serotonin receptors for X amount of time, and then it leaves. So if I'm uncomfortable, fuck it, it'll go away. So I was not uncomfortable. So I'm looking at the camera. I've never seen wild shit, right? The most you would see is distortions. But this distortion was kind of like extra, you know what I'm saying?

So the camera's on the floor. We like halfway through the workout by the time it's like fucking with me, right? So I'm looking at the camera and I say- You're training on LSD. Yeah, yeah. Oh, listen, when I was spar on LSD, it's like I'm cheating. Yo, that's- So much better, so much better. Yeah, but I don't get tired, nothing hurts, but I see better.

Like, it's like you're in slow motion, you know what I'm saying? I couldn't wait to fight on LSD. You know what I'm saying? So anyway, I'm watching this camera melt, right? And in my mind, I said, look, I'm not gonna say nothing to them. They're gonna think I'm crazy, you know what I'm saying? How do I explain the camera melting when I know it's not, I don't understand shit?

But I kept looking at it and it's like, fuck, it looked like it's really melting. So I couldn't help but to say, like, yo, y'all, I know you got gonna think I'm crazy, but I know this camera is not melting, but it's fucking melting into the floor. You know what I'm saying? So I'm, like, staring at it, knowing, like, trying to stop.

Like, it's not happening. Stop. Yeah. So, so then, I'm like, it's cool. I'm cool, I'm cool. Whatever. Let's go, let's go. Let's try to finish it.

Because I don't want nothing to impede work, right? So then I fucking get my phone to text one of my boys, like, yo, I fucking took some LSD. But the picture on my phone was my daughter, and I just started crying. Oh, it took you. Because I love her so much. It's like, it's like over so much love. I'm like, wow. look at you you know what I'm saying yeah I'll call like yo my have Ivy FaceTime me please I need to

see my daughter right now you know what I love it she finally call it baby I love you what are you doing hi daddy like oh she's when she spoke I'm like oh fuck I'm crying and shit not sad she wasn't like what the fuck are you are yeah this is happy just loving yeah so all right all right yeah let's go let's let's handle this shit oh and I was trying to text my boy amir and I'm like I'm like, why am I doing that? But the letters is moving from my fingers. So I'm like trying to catch you, you know what I'm saying? So that was the extent of visuals.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Look, they always say, oh, don't look at yourself in the mirror. I went in the bathroom, like, let me see, normal. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Everybody's face was normal. So I like, fuck it, let's do this shit.

So my depth perception was a little bit off, right? And we're training with weights and shit and all of this athletic shit. So I'm like, I'm trying. I never want to look to seem vulnerable ever. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I got it. I'm good, let's go. Like in general?

Yeah, like physically. Like, I broke my foot one time. Nobody even knew it because I didn't post it. But I had to fly from Phoenix to AZ. I'm not taking that boot. I don't want nobody to see me walking with that boot. But that was stupid because I'm walking like super slow. You make it worse, too.

Yeah, because I couldn't like lean off on my foot. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because it was my toe. But anyway, that's how stupid I am. So I'm walking and I'm very uncomfortable because the floor, it's hard for me to measure the depth, the depth perception. I know this.

So I'm like, is it there or down there? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Kind of like when you don't know when the last step is on the stairs. Yeah. So I told Jess Scott like, just take me on. Fuck it. Yeah, I'm sorry, y'all, we finished this.

So I get in the car. And I'm still trying to hold on. She's driving. Hold on to what? To, like, being normal. Being normal, got it. But it was just, I took too much. Yeah.

So something's just like, just submit. Yeah. So I just like, fuck it. I just put my head back and just chilled. And the ride was fantastic. You know what I'm saying? As soon as you let go. The physical ride in the car, it felt like I was just like on a roller coaster through space.

You know what I'm saying? My eyes were closed and I was just zooming through space, right? And I had an experience there that we're going to talk about another time. But when I got home, it was him. It was Jessica and Elijah. Everybody's at the crib. I go all the way to my room. My sanctuary is my bathtub.

You know what I'm saying? Close the door, put my little galaxy shit on and fucking ran a hot tub and just fucking chill. Yeah. And while I was there, you know, what it does is it intensifies the things on your heart and your mind. It makes it bigger, right?

So if it's negative, it's going to be bigger, right? And I don't think that it was negative what was on me, but it was things that I needed to address. You know what I'm saying? Issues. And one was with my good friend right here. and you know I'm in the tub and he comes to he's there right not physically but my issue right with myself about him and it was me like being rude or pushy like and work shit like when we

go on I'm like aggressive and you know what I'm saying yeah and I'm like yo you are a fucked up friend like how dare you talk to him towards yourself yeah yeah so I got out the tub he don't think I'm lying he always said I'm lying because he cried but No, he didn't cry. I put on my towel, my role, went down and I said, like, bro, I cried. But I was like, bro, please forgive me for not being a good friend. Like, I said, I love you, bro. I need you.

You're a good father. You're a good friend. You're a good, like, business partner. Like, everything, bro. I'm so sorry, whatever, or whatever. And we just hugged it out. Then I went back up to the tub and just fucking relaxed and zoned out. And then it was one more issue that was an internal issue with myself that I resolved, right?

and after that it was good it was Gucci you know what I'm saying yeah um I told my son come up come upstairs and I'm talking to him like son don't ever be like me like don't ever be like me you're like I was like look I all my life I had to be the man you know what I'm saying that is not the way it it robs me of joy and I want you to be happy you know what I'm saying when you say be the man what do you mean by that being the man like like I'm the guy so all the pressures on me and I want it so I can show everybody I can handle it okay I take take care of everybody. I pay for this.

I pay for that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That shit sucks. It's not, it doesn't suck because it's what I, it's who I am now, you know what I'm saying?

But I would prefer for him not to live like that. Yeah. Because it's, it's, you're going to get let down by people, right? Everything's going to make you sad when people are not meeting your expectations

of how they should treat you because you're doing so much. But they're not asking you to do all of this. And yeah, people are going to accept, they're going to receive and take. yeah that's human nature because you're giving it you're offering it you know what I'm saying right so you know and I've done the most bro and it always hurts me you know what I'm saying

and once again remember earlier I talked about me being better at communicating right yeah and there's times like especially in a romantic relationship I'm like I'll buy you anything but I can't tell you this or that or the third you know what I'm saying I'm not good at certain things so I mask it with gifts and service and you know saying protection shit that's easy for me to do but that's not the vibe I should be doing things that is out of my comfort you know what I'm saying especially with the opposite sex or with friends and relationships in general you know what I mean yeah well because that's how you you build the best relationships in general right like is not with the challenges shit not

with things yeah when you have a lot of money buying somebody something is not nothing yeah and listen even if it's something that they could never buy on their own if there's nothing to me then there's nothing you know what I'm saying yeah so these are things that I realize over time but anyway that's why I want to communicate better so I can be a better dude but being the guy you don't really learn those skills you know saying yeah you got shit you I mean so I was telling them don't ever be none of that and yeah me had a good talk I cry he'd see me cry he'd never seen me cry yeah so but we had a loving moment you know what I'm saying

then after that I told everybody yo y'all could go I'm good and it's coming down it was like a 12 hour 14 hour vibe you know what I'm saying he took a lot

so the highest part was gone and then it come down to where it's like more euphoric like I took a hit or two hits right and that shit is great

you just feel good just chilling you feel content you love yourself you know what I'm saying you chilling so one thing I was dealing with was me lying to myself

you know what I'm saying being the man and I give you an example I'll tell you what happened like so that night so I'm fucking vibing I got a playlist I have an eclectic taste of music

very diverse taste right and it's like it'll go from fucking Nause to Guns and Roses you know what I'm saying or Aerosmith and it was a this song

no Metallica nothing else nothing matters right yeah and I'm like vibe into this shit bro and I'm like yo I get on IG and my IG is very like

workout shit regular not like life So I'm like, yo, I'm in a robe, you know, y'all hear this shit? Like, listen, I'm one thing to feel what I feel. This is at the end of your trip? Well, this is during the year for, the Uphoric type, all the time. So, um, listen to this shit. So this girl that I used to hang out with just casually, she was like, DM like,

what are you doing? I was like, I was sitting in the center of the universe. She's like, what? I said, I'm in the center of the universe. Would you like to join me? on my way she comes over with her friend right and they were a little lit and then they were drinking and they was in my room my house is a vibe my house I got all like hue lighting everywhere yeah yeah and galaxy shit and so it's just a vibe you know what I'm saying and it's all about vibes

for me I agree I think period of life bro 100% so because that makes life that's the seasoning for your life. Yeah. I can't go through life bland. I can't do that. Yeah. Like now, cool. I'll go back to sleep. Yeah, I fix this shit. You know what I got? Like, I got to have shit the way I want it. So anyway, so they chill, they sit on the floor and I'm sitting in my favorite. I got this like gliding chair. It's so fucking comfortable and satisfying. You remember rocking chairs? Yeah. But it's the evolution that it glides. It goes back. It just feels, it feels. It feels great. Or Amazon. Yeah, I need to check out. Yo, referral link. Remind me to get that fucking gliding chair. And there has a thing you put your feet on and it glides too bro it's the best shit ever you

still like today this i have yeah okay i got a big ass bathroom so it's in my bathroom i just be in there fucking rocking back and forth you know what i'm saying it's the best shit dog it might be for pregnant with me listen fuck it if it's good it's good it's like 300 bucks amazon so and i brought that from arizona years ago i had it out there on a guiding chair yeah so it was so important to me i brought it with me okay so so i'm telling them like my experiences that day and they like just like looking in me like so yeah then like the one friend that I have like the girl that I hang out with I didn't know the other girl she's hot but like I'm like researching her like they just came from a strip club so I'm looking on this ones to find her to see

what she's about right and oh she's she's got a full-arm husband you know what I'm saying oh shit Oh, that's interesting. And I'm like, your brain works better, right? So I'm listening to them and she slipped up and talked about her boyfriend where she talked about somebody and she said, oh, the guy, oh, you're, your man? And she tried to shush her up and I'm just analyzing all of this shit. So I'm like, oh, this is so unpure. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. And dishonest, right? So they start making out. And the liar in me is like, oh, yeah, you want to fuck them. So smash and beat them. man, right? But at this point, I'm like, I'm not lying to nobody, especially myself. So, like, hey, I appreciate y'all for coming and hanging out, but, you know, I just, I just want to be alone, you know, like, be out of, you know, to leave, you know what I'm saying? And they were

like, just confused. I was like, yeah. Yeah, I got to leave. You know, it's more comfortable with your house, probably, you know what I'm saying? Like, whatever. So, and they fucking left. And I just had the time of my life just chilling that night you know what I'm saying um because before I will fuck them because it's two girls that want to fuck so I got to do it because I'm the man they can talk about just on principle we have videos and they can have it and whatever the fuck you know what I'm saying yeah but that's not I don't want to do that I want some I want a special situation even if we're not together we're friends right and you're honest with me you're not hurting your fucking husband or potentially hurting you yeah that's fuck I don't want to be

involved in that yeah yeah but but the LSD or the psychedelics bring you close to that truth because before I be like I don't know him I don't give a fuck but that's fucked up yeah that is really horrible so I don't think I had that kind of self-awareness before I took that shit yeah yeah now so this is the thing that I've learned at least through my experiences with psychedelics is like it makes you aware of what your mind is already capable of like what it's already kind of doing so once you learn that like it's locked in yeah exactly it's not like you forget it like you kind of you learn something you're like oh wait my perception could be shifted this way because of these things like

like you said you realize like you saw that you're like wait I don't want to lie to myself that that was the key there and you're like okay you knew what she was doing willing to lie to herself in her situation right but you were willing to do it for yourself I think it's really important for people because I don't you know people hear these stories and they're like oh I want to take a bunch of like drugs and it's not I think you got to use these as they're like intended as like legit medicine like for healing for overcoming things for learning. You know, do you think you just fucking take them? I think you should do it for whatever reason you want to. Straight up. Yeah, because why like who am I to tell somebody what they should do? That's fair. That's fair. As long as

it's not hurting somebody. Yeah. All I'm saying is like my, my, from my perspective, it made we feel is better to take it for medicinal and therapeutic purposes. Yeah, or just go into it at least setting some sort of intention with like why you're doing it. Right. Like not just taking a drug just to take a drug yeah like I'd rather someone you know again yeah this I can't tell you how to live your life obviously I know that we can't do that I've fucked up so many times in my life but at least what I'm saying is from what I've learned over my experience in doing this shit is every time that I set my intention of why I'm doing it that the outcome almost like was greater it was better I learn more from the experience unless you just want to go take drugs to take drugs I think that's

the best case scenario yeah there's times when I just want to take drugs to have fun yeah no no it's And I should be all right. Yeah. So if I have a bad time, it's what I mean? Yeah. That's never happened. So I think the best case scenario is for people to, first of all, friends of mine that want to try, like, meditate first. You need to, like, meditate.

Like, because that's, all right, so psychedelics is to meditation, what steroids is to training and getting your body in a place naturally faster. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It is accelerated, but get it there first. You don't know the principles. Get it there first. So I feel like you'll get the best outcome.

I know people that just started out just juicing and they stopped and they look like they never worked out before. They didn't build a foundation. No foundation. And there's big and weak. You know what I'm saying? So the same with the psychedelics. I think it's better if you are practicing mindfulness, practicing meditation, doing things like sitting in suffering and pain sometimes. You know what I'm saying?

And dealing with it properly. That helps you for that situation. because self-awareness, I think, is what prevents people from having. I think that's why I've never had a bad situation with psychedelics, because I know what's happening. Yeah. It's not magical. It's not, I'm not in another universe.

I'm right here, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm getting an uptake of serotonin and dopamine, so I'm happier, you know what I'm saying? If I get way more, my brain's more connected, you know what I'm more creative. So I understand that shit, but people need. to understand these things. I think it's best to know what you're putting in your body. Yeah.

A lot is crazy. Like, people will take shit, they don't know shit. Oh, yeah. Or the sword, look, my source, that's my guy. But I was, I did everything but threatened him for, like, and it's not me, by the way, guys. I'm not a drug dealer, okay? For MDMA.

I'm like, I don't want Mali. I don't want ecstasy. You know what? Yeah. Molly is MDMA cut with heroin. Yeah. Ecstasy's MDMA cut with meth. T tweak.

And listen, I'm not saying. that that's not I'm sure it's way better than just I've done all those things I'm sure it's great it's intense but I just don't want the after effect yeah the hangover shit yeah and where MDMA is no hangover yeah it's like yeah and you wake up fine the next morning I'm in gym training you know yeah yeah but you can't take that a lot that kind of shit well it doesn't work if you do yeah I try to do like Friday Saturday Sunday Sunday is nothing they're like this shit don't even work do you try you've tried that yeah damn I couldn't I've always been afraid of like overdue of the MDMA the pure yeah of anything I'm just afraid of

overdoing anything they're see they're so mild to me bro but I it take a lot for me to get a lot you know what I'm saying yeah like I just don't maybe I metabolize shit super fast yeah I do but even like alcohol I could drink 18 shots and be chill and then it's gone in a couple hours or hours so you know I mean yeah your body drink I I do on occasion it's not like a consistent thing where I'm like I want to go drink yeah but I'll drink here and there mostly for celebration or if we're filming some fucking video or some shit I'll fuck around. Right.

But I don't drink like... From 2009 to 2020, that was my first time I haven't drink or any drug or anything. In 2020? 2020. That's interesting. I never did drugs before. Psychedelics and all that.

Yep. So this is a really good question for you then. Would you say that not necessarily drinking, but like psychedelics has like changed your life? I think it's, enhanced me to an extent not nothing crazy but all right so when I did the heroic dose which led me on a heroic journey that's what it's called on the LSD I think for six months I was a way better human being you know what I'm saying so like I had Sean like is it

different he's like yeah he's so pleasant polite like better you know what I mean yeah it's interesting because the same thing he said about me then I remember when it faded and I'm back grumpy and shit and normal yeah yeah but But when, I don't know, I start trying to get back to myself, because 2020, I also stopped doing a lot of work on myself, you know what I'm saying? And I think that that six months or so that that LSD just stayed with me. I didn't really feel a need to meditate. I wasn't fasting anymore.

None of that shit, right? So when it kind of faded out, I was still just regular, a regular guy. You know what I'm saying? So I started back my work and all my healing, maybe about three, two, three months ago. And he feels like I'm back on that level of when I was doing LSD back then. Separate of LSD. Yeah, because I haven't done LSD in over a year. You know what I mean?

Not for nothing bad. I just don't fit in my life right now. When you say all the work that you started a few months ago, what is that consistent of the meditation? Meditation, fasting, reading, like a lot, you know what I'm saying? And tapping into just being more conscious and aware of my mind and my spirituality. You know what I mean? Yes.

And things of that nature. And just doing things to be a better person. being a more patient person, you know, and not dealing with, not acting on emotions. Because look, there's a lot of times that I have acted on emotion and I really wanted to. I didn't want to take the high road. Like, I don't want to. You know what I'm saying? So that's a very low frequency that I was vibrating on. That's just animalistic. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I'm not an animal. Well, I am. We all are, but I was acting very animalistic, which is cool, you know? Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Bro, it's amazing, man. I'm glad I got to catch up with you. Hell yeah. Like, genuinely. Nah, for sure, bro. I'm glad. We got to link more. Yeah, I wish you would have told me about that sooner.

You know, we're all busy too. You know what I'm saying? And it might be a thought that's fleeting and then I'm off doing this or doing that. You know what I'm saying? So, but yeah, I don't know. It just, it wasn't like the biggest thing in the world. Yeah, I get it. But it's like, eh, okay.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't know. Everybody moves different. Yeah. and nothing's right or wrong, which is different. Yeah, for sure. So, okay, so just so, I don't know if you know or see the podcast,

but at the end of every episode, we do audience questions. We answer three audience questions. Natalie, do you have your mic over there? Yes. Okay, tell them how they can send us questions. So you could send your questions at AskRawtalk at gmail.com. Or you could do it through DM on our Instagram page. Which is?

Which is Get Raw Talk. Yeah. Are we live right now? No, we're not live. That would have been amazing if we were live. But no, I'm going to sort that out. She's just going to, she's got questions already because people send all those emails in. And then she'll just give us some of those and we'll answer them.

But before we get into that, do you have any more questions for me? Yeah. I think it's probably better off because my question is juicy. Oh, really? Yeah. We got to have boundaries set before we go into that kind of shit on camera. Got it, got it. You don't want to try?

Maybe we just cut it. Let's try it. I already know it's not going to be okay. okay okay all right so we'll save that for later we'll do it off camera yeah let's get in some of these questions i love i love it i'm excited for this now go ahead so it says hello i watched the podcast with brad and selina and he had spoken about anxiety i would like to say that i've been addicted to marijuana for the last two years but every time i smoke now my anxiety goes crazy and i have a major panic attack uh i've been taking prescriptions but i don't want to get addicted to what i'm taking

um antidepressants and so on so it says i feel like i need a gateway drug but marijuana is no longer it i hear brad talk about microdosing mushrooms as well um does that help with anxiety also i cannot consume alcohol anymore because the hangovers are the give them the worst anxiety okay listen first and foremost this is really important to be said i'm not a doctor like i can't prescribe you or tell you what you should or shouldn't do in relationship especially if you're taking like like antidepressants, et cetera. I'm definitely not a fan of those kind of drugs. I think there's different ways to get a similar effect.

And I do think mushrooms can be really beneficial in that sense. And there's actually a lot of studies coming out where they're showing like similar results to what an antidepression would do for you, but like results that are staying with mushrooms. Now, again, with that being said, I can't say, hey, ditch these meds and do this. I would, I would recommend, you know, maybe talking to your doctor and figuring out like how soon can you come off antidepressants? because I think there are other ways, unless you have like a real, like,

legit imbalance. But at the same time, it's like, it's almost like a catch 22. Like, for example, I can't say the person's name, but there's someone that who was prescribed antidepressants. And then I was, I was like, you know, why don't you try and microdose mushrooms instead? And they did and they fixed their problem without ever having to take the antidepressant. So I'm not saying that's going to work exactly for you that same way, but it is worth some thought and I'm not saying just willy-nilly take a bunch of mushrooms I'm saying like try to

actually take it at a correct dose a small amount and you know see what happens but at the same time this is a tough question because like I can't I don't know yeah I can chime in go ahead um okay so this is what a lot of people don't know the purpose of all of the research on the classic psychedelics back in the day, which was ketamine, MDMA, LSD, and psilocybin, which is magic mushrooms, were to treat people who were dealing with depression and anxiety, and then they threw in PTSD, but it was when the antidepressants or the anti-anxiety, when that shit wasn't working. What they would do is typically two, and they're doing this now, because the research is back on, two therapy sessions assisted with whichever drug do y'all choose.

I've done ketamine assisted therapy You know and it's I've heard good things It's very transformative So I wouldn't just do it Like on your own I would get with a therapist Because they're there

You can do it They'll screen you first To make sure you're a good candidate Right And then they'll proceed Oh they also I forgot to say this They also use these drugs

To get people off of Hard drugs Prescription drugs Yes You know what I'm saying The addiction And cigarette addiction I don't know

If marijuana was in there it might be cocaine and alcohol and shit like that so psychedelics are very promising to get people away from those addictions yeah but do it the right way and that's assisted by a therapist and they you may not have to do it in person because they'll do like what they did with me is they screened me first uh fuck what's the name of this i can't think of the name of the company but if you google it it'll pop up they scream me we did these zoom calls and then they figured i was a good can't they mailed it to me right um and then they they gave me in very specific instructions and I followed this shit to a T because I didn't want to fuck up and you know it's me and my girl

chill day whatever I talked to the therapist for 30 minutes beforehand they gave you a playlist of masks to sleep and you don't sleep though but you blast off and it it felt like love like I was loved I was like I said they have you sit there in it for an hour this is on ketamine and then after that hour just wears off like they said it did and then they want you to journal for 30 minutes i journaled exactly 30 minutes without even knowing how long and um yeah and that's it and you're good like i don't have any addictions i was just doing it for like dealing with my anger and shit like that yeah and it 100% helped you know what i mean absolutely i think what he's saying is important is like there are avenues you can go about like i

try to say earlier when I first answered the question that you can go about doing this in like a really proper way not just self-medicating with these things because like the dosing or where you're getting the drugs from all these things could be a little bit kind of shaky and it's like you kind of want to avoid that especially if you're really trying to fix yourself mentally etc so let's get into the next question right so this one says first off big fan of the pod my situation is that I'm a 22 year old who's obsessed with success my brother and I both know we'll be successful and we won't until we get there. And even when we get there, we won't stop just at one business. So my question is, how do I get my friends to understand that this is my passion? They feel like I'm

closing them off and pushing them away, but I'm not. I love them. They're my homies. But maybe I'm maybe I am or maybe I'm not. Okay. One last question. How do I get over the guilt of making them feel that way? Okay, listen, you don't. The answer is you don't get them to feel like, you know, what you're doing is right you tell them exactly like what's important you you don't have to be like hey fuck you I'm doing this go fuck yourself but if this is like the thing that's truly important to you I think it's going to make you feel like whole as a person at least at that time tell them hey I'm really focused on this this is this is what I want to do this is what I want to focus on but that's all you can really do you can't say hey understand me understand my drive understand my effort

understand my energy understand what I'm trying to do you can like ironically the whole thing we're talking about this entire time throughout the podcast is communication. You can work on, you know, literally your communication process with them and just say, hey, like, be transparent. This is what I want to do with my life. What do you guys think about it? Like, not everyone's going to be on the same page as you. You have to understand that. Not everyone's going to be like, yeah, that's a great idea. You're going to have some friends that are like, yo, you know, fuck you that's stupid or why don't you do this? Or maybe they feel like you're getting farther away from them because of the direction that you want to go in and maybe they want to

like pull you towards them or for whatever fucking reason, but you don't get them to fully understand you. You just try your best to. And that's just through communication and saying, hey, this is where I'm at. I don't know if you like to add anything. Yeah, I say, bro, relax. Listen, success is going to come, but just put it into work. Don't say success. Like, you know what I mean? It's just like in the NFT space because I'm in Web 3. I got a lot of things going on. I hate when people name their projects crypto something like we know you know what I'm saying yeah so success

just work just educate yourself qualify yourself to be excellent at what you do whether it's a service or a product you provide make sure it's the best make sure you're the best and fucking work that's it don't run around talking about success success success I don't know anybody to do that

like that's successful right not saying it's not right but just be genuine at don't be like genuine at being successful be genuine at adding value to people absolutely whatever that is that makes you successful because i listen i can only speak on my behalf like maybe because the fact that i've always figured out how to make money i don't be thinking about success like it just happens right it's supposed to i believe that in my core that i'm always going to regardless i'm always straight but i want to be good at the

things that i do you know so i study i research i do things to make myself better and Like, you see me and Brad talking about we meditate and shit like that. Like, these are little fucking hacks that a lot of people that are free. You don't need nobody to do it. So free. That you could do it on your own that will level you up. It'll prime your brain to make better decisions. I call it a GPS for life.

I mean, it's literally life-changing. It is, bro. Yeah, it is. So relax with the success talk and just go and do the things that's going to make you successful, not focusing on the success, the outcome, the money. focus on being successful at helping people yeah because that's I'm a conscious capitalist right and I am successful because the services and products that I provide are really good for people they love it and it adds a ton of value to

people's lives so focus on that part focus on that part exactly and then also don't focus so much on your friends and trying to convince them like that you're you know you're supposed to do something just do it start to do it start to do it start to They'll see you in your hard work and they'll be like that shit. He's fucking killing it. Yeah, let me tap in with him. Yeah, exactly. The best way to teach is by example.

The best way to lead is by example, not talking. Yeah, facts. So next one. I love these questions. So this one says, I lost my father very young, four years old, and I'm 21 now. As I've grown, I've come to terms with it, but sometimes the sting and pain comes back. My mom never really got me help as a child. and she was dealing with it herself,

and she never really put a positive male figure in my household after the fact. So I'm kind of at the first stages of learning how to cope and heal now that I'm an adult and out of the house. I know it'll go away fully, but I was wondering if you had any tips or advice on how to deal with the stinging or how to deal with the fact that I'll never really get to know him. Thanks for your time, love the podcast, and your ability and willingness to be vulnerable. on a public platform not many people do it like you okay motherfucker's always trying to get me to cry at these end of these podcasts i swear to god so here's a deal man this is a direct i mean i could directly relate to this this this

thought exactly about not being able to you know have your father in in your life the way that like you think it should or you know should be um the the fact is that your life is exactly as it's supposed to be and i think it's really important for you to understand that and I've actually had this conversation with so many people in relationship to like losing loved ones is that that person now is not in your life as you see fit in the sense of everyone else has this or they have it like that that person is now in your life in a completely different way in a completely different almost like we're talking about earlier like we talk about a different dimension in a sense so I I don't

know at what point in my life I think I was around like 23 years old where I started to realize like because of the pain that I went through in childhood and growing up and not having this or feeling like I wasn't good enough for that, I transmuted that pain into a different type of energy which built the rest of my life, which is why anyone cares about the fuck I have to say here in general. So my point is this to you, that pain, that energy is going to be used in your life in a different way. And with the time being, the best thing that I can tell you is like that person is just existing in your life in a completely different way it's it's less tangible it's less physical but the energy that you can use through that whether it be through

the pain and then as you evolve and as you become more comfortable with it um it is really life changing and i've said this before in a podcast and i'll say it again also understand this fact that you you you're going through something that you know if you can get through it which you will you can get through anything else in your life like i genuinely mean that the I could always come back to that in my life where it's like, man, shit could be so fucked up. You know, I lost this deal or I lost this money or I lost this friendship or I lost this business thing or whatever the fuck or I lost all this money. And I can come back to the sobering factor like, damn, but nothing's really as hard as

what I've already went through. And speaking to you directly, it's just about realizing that. And it's hard for me too because I get caught up in my own thoughts. Like my thoughts will get carried away with where, you know, how it should or shouldn't be or what I did or didn't have. and I have to constantly remind myself to be like, okay, but where am I at right now and what can I do with what I have right now? And like I said, man, that that loss of a father or loss of a parent in general, a loved one is fucking terrible. But at the same time, eventually it starts

to make more sense. It just doesn't always make sense when you want it to. And yeah, that's it man. I just, I feel you and I'm sorry that that happened to you, but I promise you at some point in your life, you're going to look and be like, damn, this makes sense. And it's not, though, going to be when you want it to be it's going to be when it needs to be so that's real big facts yeah yeah i don't really have uh i haven't lost my father i have my father you know um i love him dearly we got a good relationship i lost my grandfather though you know and me and it was tight you know and um for me it was more like what you said man he's he's still here i felt this absolutely you know um and it kind of like you know even though i've made some mistakes in my life it keeps me from going

but so far because as if I'm being watched and I don't want to disappoint my grandfather or my grandmother for that matter but nah man he well he said that made a lot of sense and my condolence to both of y'all because I don't know what that feels like to lose a parent I just don't and I'm not looking forward to that shit at all you know what I mean yeah so my heart goes to you hume so just you know like he said take that energy because everything is energy it's no good or bad love and hate is like love and hate is the same energy is just we're at on the spectrum it's at and you control that yeah so take that energy and use it for something positive something good you know when you are i don't know maybe you're like the patriarch amongst your friends maybe

you're like kind of keeping everybody your own point maybe that's your father like giving you some wisdom to i felt like my grandfather was like helping me with my friends too like keeping keeping everybody out of certain situations you know what i'm saying so you know allow yourself to receive him your father and channel him through your actions and your whatever wisdom that you're sharing on your friends but not just words but with your actions so yeah yeah don't don't disappoint your father what if he's watching you you know what i'm saying so i think that'll be a good way to still have him with you and keep you motivated a meaningful way yeah that's it that's amazing it's how we're in the podcast. I want to hear what the fuck Mike had to say off camera. I'm really

interested in that. Um, but if you guys, if you guys made it this far, I appreciate our love. Thank you so much. Thank you, Mike for coming. I appreciate you. Yeah. Super proud of you. You know what I'm saying? You look, you're a juggernaut in the sport and you're killing it. So keep fucking doing it as you will and you're my guy. I'll fuck with you talk. You too, man. For real. I appreciate that. Come here. I appreciate that. Right. I understand. Wait.

You know,