RAWTALK - Gambling w/ Drake & Lil Baby, Losing 8,000,000 to Win 9,000,000 in a Night & How to BEAT the Casinos

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

This podcast is sponsored by Transcend, go to https://www.transcendcompany.com/rawtalk and get 40% off everything.This podcast is sponsored by Manscaped, go to https://www.manscaped.com and get 20% off everything with CODE: RAWTALK plus free shipping!0:00 Intro 1:56 how does anyone ever be good at gambling 4:56 how dealers cheat at roulette 7:16 blackjack shuffle machines 8:06 every casino cheats 9:37 redrock swarmed mikki 12:18 drake hit up mikki 17:26 lil baby with mikki in vegas 22:05 pre negotiating limits in your favor at casinos 26:05 the one rule mikki had in vegas 26:54 counting cards 28:39 the time mikki got cheated and lost 8 million dollars then brought it back up to 9 million 30:59 the politics of negotiation with casinos letting you bet big 31:02 manscaped ad 33:37 when mikki plays, someone is watching and writing his every move with a clipboard 34:43 survalence guy shared information to mikki about him when he went to casinos 36:14 mikki is selling his information for 50 million dollars 37:51 can mikki win at any casino? 38:43 online gambling 45:00 besides gambling where does mikki make money 45:55 when did mikki first start making money gambling 46:46 things casinos do to effect players gambling 51:27 advice on gambling 53:11 mikki’s foundation for struggling addiction 56:40 what has gambling taught mikki 58:18 transcend ad 1:00:13 the mind affecting us 1:02:15 TikTok 1:02:58 mikki relating gambling to trump 1:06:23 what the liberal media is doing 1:09:18 people are followers 1:10:23 Andrew tate 1:11:17 the higher entity plan 1:13:15 aliens 1:17:10 the most important thing for us as humans now 1:21:30 the condition to condition others 1:23:05 the dumb stuff going viral more 1:24:59 specific narratives on social media 1:26:15 paint ball 1:27:50 Dan Bilzerian 1:29:37 the mental construct that people have 1:32:23 listening to the right source and not the wrong source 1:33:17 having people let go of the conditions that happened to them 1:33:58 mikki hasn't slept in 2 days working 1:34:40 mikki’s tattoos 1:36:11 mikki’s personal life 1:37:50 drakes leak

It's a cool area. I love this area, bro. I just moved to un- So I was always in the city, so now I'm starting to, like, come deeper out and check it out and stuff. I love it out here. It's just more, like, relax.

Like, that area is definitely more shit going on, but I can't do the traffic in and out of those places. Like, I'm sure going up that hill at certain times of the night's just... Bro. This is a joke, dude. The gate, my actual gate in my driveway to get in, you got to pray you don't get into some kind of accident it's got to be against code i'm serious i didn't

build the house right they must have built it before they put in certain driving codes so thank you so much so like so let's say you're coming from the city on cold water right like towards the valley you have to do a full 180 in the middle of one of those tight curves on cold water no shoulder no nothing i'm talking like a sharp 180 no no room to the driveway yeah you'd make a four point turn. But why'd you live there? Why don't you want to live there? I got a crazy crib. Yeah. That's six acres right in the middle of I got nine bedrooms. I got mad hills, dirt bike trails. My closest neighbor's the owner of Spotify. I got a sick compound. My guess so did you buy this house

with gambling money? Um, gambling has provided well for me. Yeah. That's this is such a crazy concept like honestly blows my mind the first question by the way thank you for coming mickey um are we live right now yeah yeah we're good right yeah um obviously you're here because you're an extraordinary gambler the question is my first question i think the most important question we have a ton for you because i know you've done a lot of cool but is how does anyone ever be good at gambling like how can you actually be good at gambling sure because that seems like my buddy steve Steve will do it. Yeah, I play with him.

I feel like whenever I'm with him, he's so, obviously I've seen him lose, but he consistently is always up. And in my mind, I'm like, that's just not, that couldn't be me. Um, there's a lot of different like components to that answer. Yeah.

The first is like how can anybody, anybody who takes something serious will always be better than someone who takes it like recreational. 100%. So like off rip, if you just understand the rules of the game, then you already have, like, call it an advantage over guys who don't know the rules.

Yeah. Right? And then there's certain maneuvers that people don't understand the mathematical probabilities of. Let's keep it simple and say Blackjack, right? I love Blackjack. Yeah. Love it. Some people don't know.

By the way, I hate how much I like gambling. I have to admit. I think gambling's terrible. I hate how much I love it, bro. But yeah, sorry, go ahead. No, no, no. So like in Blackjack, for example, most people don't know that if you have a soft 18 against the dealer's 9 or 10, you need to take a hit.

A soft 18 against a 9 or 10. Yeah. So these are just, those are just basic principles in the game. Yeah. That like if you know the game, you go, okay, I know these things. Yeah. And someone might be like, oh, I got 18, I'm not hitting. Right, which is very common for a recreational blackjack player. Yeah.

They go, I got 18. Good hand. I stand. So describe a soft 18. As an ace as an ace and a seven. Yeah. Because the ace, because the thing is you get a free hit and you need 18.55 for the law of large numbers to be an overall winner. at the end of everything, you win hands once you get to 18.5.

So if you're sitting with an 18 and the dealer's a 9 or 10 showing, there's more cards worth 10 than anything else in the deck, they most likely have 19 or 20, you're sitting with a loser. So you have to go down swinging, take the free hit.

Worse that happens is the ace turns into a 1, you still didn't bust and you get another hit after that. Yeah. Those are just basic principles, though, but you explained to me something when we were at the Power Slap thing and it was about roulette.

And to me, I'm like, there's no way but when you explain it to me it does make sense this idea of like getting the dealer or the guy who's spinning the ball at this game for roulette

to like make eye contact with you while he's spinning the ball because you think someone yeah and this does make sense when you said it I was like this guy spinning the ball for if he's been doing it for 10 15 years every like nonstop

hours and hours then they probably just like someone taking a shot know exactly how the shot kind of hits and then they kind of to know okay he put his numbers here let me throw it a little harder make it land on the other side because they can control the wheel speed and the ball speed so okay so they're spinning both they're spinning both they spin the wheel in one direction ball and the other so you think it's possible for

someone i guess it is i mean how could i know it is i know it is i did videos so i got this guy all right so there's a guy i don't know how old he is 80 years old been a dealer for 50 years i have a video you go look at my ticot i made a three-part series with this guy talking specifically specifically how pit bosses used to ask him to cheat and the details of how he cheated for the casinos. He talks about the roulette wheel. He goes, I can throw it guaranteed within three numbers. That's insane.

So you can't, I mean, so you can't really beat that then unless you... Well, that's what I was telling you. So right, when the dealer spins the wheel, he spins the wheel, then the ball, right? When he spins the wheel, he's about to go to the ball, you say, look at me. Because now he's taking a blind shot. It's like Steph Curry shooting threes. But he still hits the wheel. I mean, yeah, but the accuracy dramatically drops off.

Yeah, of course. But in theory, on that example, the dealer can cheat for you. What do you mean? Well, the dealer can put the ball wherever he wants within three numbers. It doesn't have to put it away from your money. But, I mean, if he's obviously working for a casino, it's making sense for him to put it away for your money. I mean, unless you're a boy's a dealer and you break him off on the back end. In theory, I'm not saying I've done that or knowing one who has, but in theory.

That has to be super like. I, you know, I was watching, I was watching casino, you know, the oldest old, like, mom. Of course, of course, you know it. Um, I wonder if casinos are still, are they just like, I always just wonder is like, is that still not happening. Like, you're not just killing random people in the desert and stuff, but I wonder if casinos are like, I wonder if they ever take it to that level anymore. If it's like really that serious. Nah, no, no, there's no, there's no like physical threats.

Super regulated. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you've been kicked out of casinos. Yeah, almost all of them, yeah. so well it's like just because they know you you just with your win rate must be so crazy i don't i don't get it though it's just like what do you know that you think that maybe you just know all those little ins and outs of the games that's that's so that's what happened bro so right so like bro first i first i grew up in an area that was all rich jews and mobsters and a lot of these mobsters

if you talked to the grandparents of my friends their first generation the parents are second generation coming from bugsy seagull and mire lansky right you know they are yes yeah so a lot of the people I grew up with in my area are people that invented some of the technologies used in the casino like I'll tell you this to beat the gambler yeah to beat the gambler

I know the guy who help create these you know the shuffle machines like in blackjack with it there's the two it's a black box yeah it shoots out the decks yeah pulls up you put one in

and then the other one pops out you pull the cards out and deal whatever yeah I know the guy who helped create the technology in there that puts all the cards back in correct order so the the shuffle machine has laser eyes it's called eyes right they have eyes on there that's reading every card

and the shuffling machine you think it's shuffling randomly it's not it's putting all those cards in a certain position it's a fact at the end of the night they can if they want they can take that machine off put all six decks in and rearrange them from ace through deuce in every suit all six decks if the machine can unshuffle

every single one then it can also shuffle it however it wants so are they all are they all doing that then every casino cheats in ways that So when I first started saying If people were like, no, casinos don't cheat They don't have to

They have an edge, right? Yeah. Let me make this so painfully obvious. You familiar with Baccarat? Yeah, of course. Right, Steve loves Baccarat. Yeah, he goes crazy. The game is virtually 50-50, right?

Yeah. It's like a slight variance. It's like 49 and change, whatever. Call it 50-50. Yeah. For easy, right? That means that you should win half your hands, lose half your hands.

Yeah, that never happened. It means you should win half your sessions, lose half your sessions. Then why does it? Everybody plays Bachrat always lose everything every time. Well, I see Steve not lose, though. I don't get it. Listen, there are some people who win.

Like, I'm one. If you say Steve's winning, he's winning. But, bro, why does almost everybody always lose in a game? So who's to always make you break even minus the 5% on half the bets you're paying into the house? So you should always be losing it like 2.5%. So for every $100, you should be losing $2.5. But instead, for every $100, everyone loses $100. Yeah.

And a game that's $50. How do you always lose in a game that's $50? So why do people so do it then? I think they're sold on this. this false sense of reality. And I also think through propaganda and media and like false belief, people are like born almost, not born, but like their brain is wired to believe that they're not cheating, right?

So your first natural belief growing up is that you go to a casino. Yeah, they have an edge, but everybody gets lucky. You could win. You can outsmart them, whatever, start going. And then once you have this idea, they're just driving it home with the flashy lights and the noises. And the free food, all the free hotel rooms. the rules and you know and depending on how big you go

shout out red rock i love the red rock by the way yeah we'll tell them to unband me bro they really banned you bro they had the cop swarm on me after power when i saw you at power slap and we all went over in durangelo we went over to the high limit no way bro i'm playing with bro they got you a derango bro all right so when we all went from power slap they must see you and be like oh you call it that's what happened so there was like three tables you know dana i think was at the middle table there's one table on the left wall and then on the right two tables, Dana was at the first, Bryce Hall was at the second. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So the one that Dana was at was so packed. I'm like, I'm not fighting through the crowd. Like, I'm going to go, I've seen Bryce at the next table. I'm like, oh, what's up, Bryce, right? So I'm looking over his shoulder. I look up and I see the pit boss holding a piece of paper to the dealer, and it's my information on there. And they're like whispering, whatever, and he's holding the, it's like, you're literally

holding it like this, and I'm staring right at it. And for a second, he looks up, we lock eyes. I'm like, everything good, and he just dead stares me, no response. And I look behind me, and I see the P. the police department assembling at the big archway into the high limit. The thing is that the cops

don't know exactly what they're there for they just know that they're there for something, right? Yeah. I watched the guy holding my paperwork approach the cops where he's obviously going to say like that's the guy, like whatever.

As I see him walk towards the cops, I walk right behind him. He stops to inform the cops. I just keep going and I get out. Yeah. And what do they do? What are they going to just say that?

Hey, you got to get the fucking. No, they were going to arrest me for trespassing. Oh, so you're already been. Yeah, I'd been trespassed from stations, yeah. Okay. You're already from the Durango? That's brand new.

Yeah, but it's owned by stations, which I'm trespassed, which is Red Rock, yeah. Yeah. And when I left, they went back to talking about it. And you know who MK is? No. With a YouTuber kid, whatever. There's a YouTube kid named MK and Bryce. They were sitting next to each other playing.

They both overheard the entire conversation about me. They were like, looking for me. They're like, where do you go? Like all this. And then when they realized I left, they just started talking openly about me, like the staff there. And they heard the whole conversation. So there's none you can go to. I can go inside a three of them, and I can play it two of them.

Why can you go inside three, but only play it two? So one of them is, I don't want to say the name because I don't want people to think I'm promoting it. You know what I'm saying? One of them is brand new, and they're not owned by a casino company. They don't have a history of a gaming company. So they let you play. So they let me play.

But they did kick me out. So they invited me for grand opening night, four nights in a row. Everything was good, right? Have me eating at the steakhouses. Well, why invite you if they know you're that guy? Well, I think what's happening is they're using. me for free marketing got it because they know yeah because every time any celebrity in the world wants to gamble they call me and like where shall we go yeah and i'm like well i got two options

you know what so well how does that work like how did you how did you get linked up like so like how are who's the first celebrity who hit you up i think drake was the first one that discovered me this is such a drake thing to be the guy who discovers you that's hilarious because he's so tapped in yeah so so what drake what is he DM you and he's like bro has someone hit you up Okay, okay, okay. So I'm at my buddy's pool, right? It's like midday on like a random day in the summer. Wait, what city are you in? L.A. Okay. This is like years ago. Like, you know, I'm new to social media. So I started, I think four years ago. So I like 10K followers when this happened. Were you gambling prior to that obviously? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So I'm in the pool and like, you know, we're all partying. It's like chicks, whatever, just hanging out. And I just like hear my phone like nonstop. Mind you'm so new to social media that my phone's not popping like that. There's no reason for my phone to be off the hook, right? and it goes ding ding ding ding i'm like what is happening i check my phone i don't know i you know

to this day i haven't figured out how people realize this i never even asked my buddies everybody's calling and texting me yo drake follows you drake follows you drake follows you drake follows you like all this i don't know how anybody realized that what the i don't know maybe it hit a tabloid you know that they have like you know like tm z or whatever they like but it must be like the day before for them to all like you think it happened that fast he followed and he made a tabloid i i think there's like yeah i think i'm making this up but i think there's like tm z and stuff like er what tabloids that have a program that like watches people's accounts like that high profile people to see when they follow a new person

that makes sense so i think that happened drake followed me the program picked it up and they put like this news alert like whatever like news articles like whatever and all these people like online scene and start hitting me up like crazy and i'm like what the heck drake follows me i'm like i'm nobody bro like i don't know what's happening right now i open up my phone and i and i put champagne poppy and it goes follow back and i go he does follow me did you message him yes okay so i follow him yeah so okay so i follow Followed him back. Yeah. And I hit him up first.

And I just said, I got it. I forget what I said. I was just like, Hey, bro, like how are you doing? Something like that. Right,

right. And something that was really cool was he started sending me voice memos right away and set a text. Well, the very first message he ever sent me said, we should go to Vegas, bro. We'll clean up.

It was his very first correspondent. He's such a gambler, dude. His first correspondence ever. And I was like, yeah, for sure, bro. Like,

yeah, I'm like, I'm like, you're Drake. I don't know what. That's sick. You know, yeah, I'm just like some kid, like 10K followers. I had Instagram for like three months or something.

Like, I don't know what's happening. How do you think he found out about you? I don't know. That dude's so into what? Yeah, I did start going viral almost immediately when I made social media. But like even that is like so like there's so many layers he would have to go through before thinking, yeah, this is him. Like Mickey's him. That's, that's, that's him neutral.

Someone else had to be like, oh, this guy. It might have been somebody that might have actually known me in my life. Again, I really never asked, right? somebody who might have actually known me might have put Drake on or maybe Drake seen a video of me that was going viral and just said something about it

and by pure chance somebody in the room who knew me was like yeah that that's himy neutron you know yeah so did you guys go gamble in Vegas then I don't want to speak on any like too many details right right I think that I think that he doesn't appreciate like people like speaking on him so much

you know I mean yeah I think a lot of people like you know like people like cling on and stuff like that of course yeah of course but you've obviously you've obviously interacted with him yeah for sure From what I've heard about him, like I've heard from aid and different people, like, in the sort of space, is he just super fucking, like, chill. Like, he's super cool. To this day when someone asked me that, I have to say, like, he's the most, I want to say, like, regular.

I want to say, like, regular almost, but it's not the right word. Yeah. Like, chill, like, I'll tell you this. Like, he's not what you think he could be because of his stature. Zero chance, bro. He's the most normal human being I've, like, spoken to, like, even more than some of my own friends, right? I get it. Bro, he sent me a message one time, and he was like this.

So it's an audio message, right? So now we go to texting and he's texting me, same deal, like audio messages. You know, he's playing online gambling. He's sending me photos. He's like, you know, asking me advice every night. He's like laying in bed, sending me photos of his TV where he's gambling, you know? And so all night, he's like sending me pictures of him laying in bed gambling on his big TV. He wasn't sending you the other videos.

No, I had a troll. Sorry. Obviously not. Obviously not. He sent that to someone else. I don't know how that got out there or whatever. Yeah. It's all good.

Yeah, yeah, but I remember, like, you know, he's like, what do I do? What do I do? And I'd give him advice, like, through the phone like that. And he sends me an audio message one time, and he goes, I swear it was like this. It was like, this is how it starts. He goes, hey, bro, I don't want to be rude. I swear to God.

He's like, I don't want to be rude. But is it okay if I ask you a question and I'm sorry if it's rude. I'm just new to this. I'm not like a gambler like you. And I don't know if this isn't correct. I don't be inappropriate. I just want to ask a question. Don't take offense to it.

And the whole time I'm thinking like, bro, I asked me to question. Yeah, what do you want to ask me, bro? I'm like, yeah. I'm like, you're a drink. Just hit it. Just drop it. Yeah, yeah.

And he asked me like the most mundane question about gambling. It was like, like it's so simple. It was like, I don't know, like a regular question. And then he wraps up the audio message again saying, I'm really sorry.

I hope I wasn't crossed any lines. Am I being rude? And I just hit him back. I'm like, homie. Yeah. You're good, man. Ask me anything, you know?

And he was just like the nicest guy, like regular yeah so what else did that turn into did that turn into other sort of celebrities yeah so so again like i never really asked now mind you i'm like at this point of my life i'm a normal guy i was anti social media my whole life like at this point though did you did you already have a lot of money yeah from okay so you were kind of you were chilling i was super chilling yeah yeah i was i was big chilling and um so i never really asked i'm a little bit starstruck because like all the biggest stars in the world are hitting me up and like hanging out with me like all this so i'm like nervous how to even like interact sort of you know what i mean

and so I've never actually asked how all this chain of events has happened but right after I got put on with Drake the next one that I remember was Little Baby and Little Baby has me come out to Vegas go on stage while he's performing

at his residency and the back of the stage of this venue was like kind of like its own party like whoever he invited and I'm there with like I think two of my buddies or something and so we're on stage as soon as the show is done

he like literally turns like we're side stage right now like still like crowd is active and he just goes so what's the move I'm like I'm like bro as he's performing yeah like he does the last song now I'm still new to this I'm new to being on stage at this point of my life you know what I'm saying so I don't really know what's going on I'm just happy to be there yeah of course and he's performing what a da da da da he like turns hands the mic to someone and as he's doing that steps to me and he goes what's the move where we go yeah and I'm like what do you want you know and he goes you want a party and i go i like to party and he goes he goes he goes you got a

spot and i go yeah yeah my homie's got a villa over at whatever building he goes can i bring girls and i go yeah and he goes like this so i don't know who the dude was maybe his manager he looks to me he goes the girls bring all of them and then we just start walking swear bro i swear so he starts walking and i'm just trailing him and i think i think i had two friends maybe a third i can't remember and they're following me we go out through like the kitchen and all this you know like the yeah yeah and we go out and we're in this like private parking lot and it's just like a grip of black SUVs and then all sudden all these girls I don't even know how many girls just start coming out this back door to this bro parking level and um it was a really cool moment

and I seen a couple of clips that people took on their phones he just stopped right and he goes hey Mickey I go yeah and we just start talking like two normal people like how you doing where you from how does this work how does that work and we just start talking i don't know how many people while the girls were getting in the SUVs everybody just stopped you know they're like following him basically know of course yeah so when he stops the whole crowd stops and they're like 10 feet behind including his little posse everybody basically circled us so it's like almost like in a movie when there's like a school fight at high school it's like a huge circle crowd in the middle's two people fighting it was like that but just mean him talking and to him it was like none of those people

existed he just wanted to know about me how i was doing how i was feeling what i what i like in life what I don't like, stuff like that. We start talking. When did you guys go gamble? So then we load up the SUVs. I mean, I want to ask about the party, but, you know, some details. Yeah, share that. We load up the SUVs.

Some partying begins. And all of a sudden, I don't see him. He's like, gone. But all his people are present, right? Like, it's just him not there. And so I call him and I'm like, hey, bro, are you good? Like, you're not. I mean, we know where he's at.

Yeah, I'm like, your security's here. Like, where are you? And he goes, I couldn't help him. I hit the tables. I was like, are he serious? So he dipped his heart of gambling. Yeah, I swear, bro. Yeah, I swear to God.

And I'm like, you what? You go, yeah, I'm at the table right now. And I'm like, what table? And he told me, I go, I'll be right there. I book it, boom, I come. I have a cameraman there. It films the whole thing. And I walk up to him and he's sitting at like a normal table that's filled with

normal people and he's just him, just little baby by himself. Yeah. And I'm like, no guards? No, he's just him. Oh, that's dope. Yeah, but this is the thing about him. So he and I have gambled a bunch together. Something about him is, he'll just move.

he'll just be he's just there he's active he's just moving if he wants to play someone he just sits down he's just active right which i thought was cool but also a little alarming like he's walking through with crazy jewelry and crazy cash sometimes he didn't have guard he got to have guards but this i'm telling you i watched me and been around each other a lot sometimes he'll just get up and move and groove you know no like assemble team he'll just like start moving you know yeah and uh symbol team's hilarious yeah and uh at this particular time that was his movie just he just He was just playing with regular strangers, right? I walk up and like, yo, yeah, like, what's happening?

Like, you went and losing? He goes, oh, I'm losing X amount. And I go, okay, I was like, let me help you, bro. Like, what are these, what are these guys gambling with normally, if you could say? In a range, so it's always different. So, so this is the, this is a problem I learned immediately. A lot of them don't understand that they have options that a lot of people don't. Because of the bankroll.

Right. And they don't know that because they don't know that. The casino by default will always set it in casino's favor. So, well, explain. now how can you set so for example um when you have a million dollar line of credit or front money you will get uh depending on the game a really big betting limit like 75 000 a hand right yeah if you don't know to ask for that negotiation these are at private tables you mean technically it applies to public tables too but like when we have those kind of money in play we like big gamblers

prefer not to be in the mix we like to have our own thing yeah but in theory yeah you could hop to a public table and still get those limits. We have to pre-negotiate it. So people don't know that they, bro, the things you can negotiate with a casino to help you win are ungodly. Oh, I don't even know you could do any of this. So that's exactly right, right? So you show up, you got money on the books, right?

You got money in your account or whatever it is. You're buying credit line, whatever. You don't know how many things you can negotiate to help you. You don't know that. And they're not going to tell you that because they know it's not in their favor, the casino. Okay. So, for example, Dana White and Drake, they know these things. So they have the negotiation set in their best favor.

There was a timer, though, they didn't know that, I'm sure. Just like when I sat down with a little baby that first time, he didn't know that he can do some of these things. So he's capped at 20K a hand. And I'm like, bro, you got, you know, what? I don't quote me on this, but I was like, bro, you got a million on the books. You can bet 75K and you're stuck at 20.

You can lose. Per one hand. Yeah, per one hand. I'm like, you can lose all your money 20K at a hand, but you can't win all the money 20K to hand. But you can win a lot of money, 75K at hand. So, okay, help me. understand this because I get it obviously I understand you have a bigger bankroll you could play

longer you mean like well I actually like to play shorter okay so this is what I don't get though I don't understand how if okay if I'm betting now is 75,000 a hand I'm just I can just lose 75,000 a hand sure so how is there a benefit well then you have still have another million dollars so of course no $925,000 to win 75k back right which is one benefit the next is let's say you pick a number that you want to win but which is the right way to gamble you shouldn't just go in there like i'm just going to have a good time i'm just going to gamble whatever how when i feel like i'm done i'm done that's how people lose everything yeah so if you're taking it serious and your goals to win you need to have a uh a stop loss and a stop win right you have to pick when i'm losing when do i

stop for the moment when i stop in a session and when i'm winning when do i call it a dove when i go yeah so you go in there let's say your number's 150 000 you want to make 150k today you're allowed to bet 75k a hand all you got to do is win two hands you could be in that you could be in that casino for 30 seconds, make a 150,000 and leave. If your number's 150K and you're only allowed to bet 20K a hand, that's how the casino's edge picks up. Okay, I kind of understand that now. It's making more sense. The longer you play, the bigger the house edge becomes. In every circumstance. In every circumstance, especially because now you're fighting in the beginning, it's like luck. It's like 50-50. Like a bachar out of hands like 50-50, basically, right? I could do is win two

hands. Basically, you're looking at 50-50. You win the two hands? You made 150K, go home. if you have to actually keep playing and playing and playing their edge will catch on the luck let's say it is luck the luck runs out so god because that's that's got that's the hardest thing when I think about gaming I'm like the chances of I always play because I play smaller

and I could play bigger and then I don't because I'm just like well if I play bigger I can just lose more money faster but yeah and that's how that's what Steve does now that I notice it that's what he does so so there's an advantage to playing the bigger hands. Obviously, if you have a bigger bankroll,

but more importantly, it sounds like for people who gamble, and this is where it gets really tricky and why people lose so much money is they don't have those limits. Yeah. They don't go, yo, if I lose this much, I have to leave no matter what. Not only most people not do that, they also don't bring a partner

that's going to hold you accountable to that. So I had a rule in every casino in Vegas, and this is not like for sure, but I'm pretty sure I'm the only one in Vegas history that had this rule. There was one guy, I'm not going to say his name, who always sat with me at every table. He was allowed to spend my money as if it was mine.

He can place a bet for me. He can pull for my markers. He can pay my commissions. He can take the chips off the table and put in his pocket. And that's what he did. But you have to set that up prior with the casino to say, hey, it's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. And all the casinos agreed to let me do that with him, right?

So what I would do is, I would help me and him would discuss it. What is the stop loss? What does the stop win? So he would know my number. So he's counting my chips while I'm focused on the game. because imagine every hand I play I have to recount the chips and do more like

this math here is a distraction to add a layer of math that really is like irrelevant to what I'm trying to do which is win all doesn't take me further away from what I'm trying to do

okay so let's talk about that concept winning right because you're focused on the cards that are at play the cards that you're assuming because obviously counting cards is illegal right illegal it's not illegal

it's not a crime it's frowned upon it's against casino policy it is not a crime okay So how does counting cards even work? You're just, you're, you're rationalizing what's left over based on what's been pulled? Yeah, basically that's correct.

And there's two versions of card counting. There's a true count and a running count. And it's a small system. It works. It does work. Usually you get caught. The casino hires card counters. Like people that work in surveillance are trained.

When they want to work in surveillance, they're trained to learn how to count cards to try to catch card counters. So it's hard to disguise it. But they have a pretty good rational understanding. of what's likely to be left in the deck or right at the top of the deck. Based on what's already been pulled out. Exactly right. Yeah.

So how do you, how do, how would I learn how to like count better? I mean, you can literally go on YouTube. There's like, you can go on YouTube and put in card counting tutorial and I could promise you like they're accurate. Damn. It's that easy. Oh, shit. Dude, so, so, God damn.

I just, dude, I hate how much I love gambling. Every time I talk about, like, I want to go right now and it's a bad thing. So how does one, based on what I'm saying right now, how do you, if you, you have a buddy, he's like helping you. Let's say someone doesn't have a buddy. Have you ever had moments where you went further than you were supposed to go? Oh, of course, bro. You know how many times I've lost rent money?

That's like my biggest fear is like, because I work so hard for the money I make, then like I love gambling. It's so fun. And I love the thrill and like the idea that you could like stack it like double, triple. But then it's like, what if you just, you get? Like how much? How much have you lost at one time? The biggest loss I ever had at one time was $8 million.

What was that on, though? Like in one night? Yeah. So how do you lose if you're so good at it? Because they cheat. So there's so many layers to this. But $8 million cheat is crazy. Do you know how hard it is to lose $8 million?

It sounds tremendously difficult. You probably couldn't lose $8 million playing Baccarat if you try. So how did you do it? They set me up. They set me up for failure, absolutely. How did that? Okay. All right.

So like the roughly the first, like, I want to say like three million dollars I lost. I was distraught. I was pissed. I was like, I'm mad that I'm losing, right? Then I lost like another, I don't know what, like another three million just confused, right? Like I enter like the twilight zone, right? I'm like, I don't understand. How do I lose 100% of the hands?

No matter what I do, it doesn't. work this can't be correct at this point i'm down i think seven million like roughly right bro that is no i'm down six i'm down six million and i play i play a little bit more i play a little bit more and this time i knew that i was being cheated and i go you know what i'm gonna spend the last million couple million whatever it is trying to figure out i know i'm gonna lose it but i'm gonna try to figure out what it is they're doing and i sat there and i lost another million or two million or something like that, just trying to understand what is happening that I'm not privy to to make me lose this many hands in a row, which is just ungodly. It's not possible. And I figured

it out. I bought it for one million more and then I won $9 million in 45 minutes. Okay. That doesn't make any sense, dude. There's no way that really happened. That's a true story. I have videos and photos of it. Bro. I post that stuff all the time. You went how, so. You, if you, you don't follow me on it. I don't know if you follow me or not, bro. I post the videos of this all the time. There was witnesses to my $9 million win that watched me lose the $8 million first. I have photos, videos. You lost $8 million and came up $9 million.

Yeah. Yeah. That's not my biggest win. That's not even close to my biggest win. What's your biggest win? My biggest single session win is $11,000, $526,000. On what game? Baccarat.

So Bacra, it's your game. Yeah. Because they let me bet $250,000 a hand there. Who the fuck is letting you bet that? What casino is doing that? Every casino. All right, guys. cooking around to the podcast Manscape listen obviously I'm I'm super unkept right now

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put in raw talk as the code 20% out plus free shipping right now link is in the bio i've never even seen that. I've never seen it as anyone. I've seen people bet 70. I've seen 30s like most average I see. You have to go to one of the flagship casinos on the strip, all of them, Bellagio, Aria, Venetian, MGM Grand, Palazzo, Cosmo, Caesars. Actually, they actually all let me bet $300,000 in hand. But the politics and the negotiation, what I have to do to qualify for the $300,000 a hand is an extra $2 million in exposure that I didn't need. So if I could save the $2 million in exposure and get capped at a quarter million to hand instead. So I would have to

give them an extra $2 million up front to start this. Yeah. To get 300K in hand. But for $2 million less, I get $250,000 a hand. So to save the risk of $2 million, I'm only at a loss of $50,000. So I would take a quarter million dollars a hand.

Oh my God. And for Blackjack on the same negotiation, for Blackjack, I get $75,000 a hand in a six-deck shoe. For one hand, I get, I think it was something like 40,000 for two or 25,000 for three hands on double deck. I could play 50,000 a hand, 25 at two. I think, I think it was like 20 for three hands. So, okay, I have a question. When you lost at 8 million and you figure it out, what did you figure out? I figured, well, I don't want to say

exactly like what it was they did. It's, it is proprietary. But I figured out it was being set up. Okay. And you start winning. Yeah. And when you start winning and the money starts coming back, do, I wonder if I just, in my head, like, I picture more people coming in the room

and being like, what the fuck's going on? Yeah, of course. So when I play, and there's videos of this too, when I play in a casino, well,

used to because now I'm banned. They would have a person stand right behind me that is employed by the casino with a clipboard writing every single detail about everything I'm doing down. And it was probably,

they used to show me the clipboard. They'd be like, he stood up, scratched his ball, sat down, bet player one. I took a drink. Yeah, yeah. He coughed twice, look to the right.

Like a stenographer, a gambling sonographer. And they sit there with a clipboard like this. That's sick. Like this. And then any time that person missed something I did, they would have to stop everything and ask all the other staff because they had like a team of people watching me. Dude, it's like they're trying to like learn you. Yeah. So something else that's crazy.

So check this out, bro. I became friends with a dude who works surveillance for the Sands, which is Venetian Palazzo. Yeah. And I was their biggest domestic winner three quarters in a row and one of their biggest winners of all time. The dude is a young guy. He worked surveillance at Venetian, and he was assigned to my account. He was the actual point that every time I walked in the building on his shift, he would have to watch every single thing I do to try to discover how I'm cheating.

They brought a team of MIT student. I don't know if it was MIT students. It's not really cheating. It's just like, well, they thought that I was cheating. Okay. They thought out, they're like, the only way you can be doing this is if you're cheating. Let's catch him cheating. They couldn't catch me cheating.

So some casinos are like, we don't want to deal with it, get him out. He's banned. Stop the hemorrhaging. He's done. Other casinos are like, he's getting lucky. keep him coming, he'll lose it all back and then some, keep him coming. Somewhere like, we don't know what's happening. We're a big enough company we can afford it.

Let's try to figure this out. So this dude. This is crazy. So this dude who worked surveillance at Venetian and Palazzo, his girl works surveillance at MGM, and all his best friends work surveillance at the other casinos where they all had to watch me. So him and all his friends,

they've been watching me from day one trying to discover how I'm winning. He ends up quitting his job at surveillance because he wants to become a film producer. He slid in my DMs. He showed me, full factual evidence that he is who he says he was and he knew things that he knew he actually went on the second no jumper interview i did and he shared exactly what was happening in that room and they brought mit people in there to a team of mit people came in every time i

played to try to study my play to try to dissect what i was doing and figure it out but like what could you be doing it's just the cards are coming out and you're saying banker player maybe no but that's but what because you took a sip twice of the water like it changed the cards That's the thing I don't get. It wasn't the sip of water. Yeah, but like, what is it then? I'm selling it for $50 million. Wait, selling what?

What are you selling? The information, my proprietary information on how I beat them. How do you sell this? Like, what is it? Like, what is it? Like, what is this? If somebody gives me a check for $50 million, I'm going to teach them exactly what it is that helped me win.

So you think you could recreate that? because if you're selling some of $50 million, you think that it's like anyone can technically do it if they understood the principles. Sure. Damn. That's insane though.

Yeah. So, okay, so you're winning, you lost this money, you start winning the $9 million. These people come in, at what point are they like, yo, this guy's got to get the fuck out of here. They didn't.

That wasn't the trip that they told me to get out. That particular casino where I won that, I won, I did an episode for Mike Maylack. It was me, Mike, Logan Paul, and Ryan Garcia. And I won a little over a million dollars for them on camera for that episode. Following that is when that is the same casino. On the night shift thing? Yeah, exactly.

The night shift. Following that session where I won a little over a million bucks for them on the camera, on camera for their episode, that's when I got the call from that same casino. It said, never come back. And I have that call recorded too. Mike actually posted it in the credits of that episode. So you, damn, dude, you really think you could just go into like, any casino and, like, pretty much win?

Um, yes and no. Like, I don't think, first of all, it's never a guarantee in gambling. There's never a guarantee, right? So I, I don't walk into a casino like, okay, I'm going to trick them this time. I'm definitely going to win. Like, I go in there, like, this is a battle. I'm going to do my best to stay on the winning side of it, like, you know, whatever. It's so funny.

But there's a lot of games that, yeah, I'm an advantage player at. Basically, I'm an AP in every game mostly. There are some games that are super beatable. What are the most beatable games? Blackjack, if you don't get caught. I love Blackjack. Yeah. I got to learn some Blackjack, like, serious tricks from you.

Not right now. Like, literally off camera, I really want to, because I love that game. I hate that I love it. So, let's talk about this a little bit. Okay, online gambling. This has to be, it's like one of the scariest things because you can do it from pretty much wherever at any time.

that seems to be way more cheatable for them as well, though. Okay. Because you know when they were doing like the whole like influences showing up and like, yeah. Like can you, I feel like couldn't you just press a button and then these people could just win more? Yeah. So I expose online casinos for cheating all the time also.

And I put it on Instagram and TikTok all the time. That was like my biggest thing. So you know, obviously every owner of every online casino basically in the world is contacted me, obviously, right? Yeah. Like to try to do like promo deals and whatever. Of course, yeah. I've never taken a brand deal in my life.

Gambling or not gambling. I've never made a single dollar on the internet. And they've made a dollar from view. Well, you're an expert gambler. You don't need that money. Yeah. You know, but still, you know, some of the money that these online casinos have offered me. Bro, it's the, that is the numbers that I've heard.

That's the biggest business on the planet. It's incredible. Like, it's insane. But that's what I'm saying. The online thing trips me out because it's like, it's just, it's an algorithm base. So, okay, okay. This is my whole thing with online gambling. Every, I don't gamble online because I know they cheat, right?

Every online casino offers me some crazy, like NBA money, right? Like Steph Curry numbers. Yeah. To promote them. And I've always said the same thing to everybody. I said, sure, I'll do it. But I'm going to tell my full truth. When I find what you're doing wrong, I'm going to tell the people and I want to look at

your back in. I want to look at the software. As soon as I say that, no matter what, they go, can't have you say that stuff. And I go, what do you mean? and they go we can only have you say things in a positive light no libel no slander no blah blah blah and i go just let me be true let me be true to the situation they can't do it damn you know kirgo yeah yeah they were talking me about it you sign a contract with them i think i'm i'm i'm trying to start working with them yeah i will stand behind kirgo and by the way i don't i don't i don't have

i don't have like a promo deal with them nothing then why would you do that i know the guys own kirgo and they said the same thing they go let me there's no way you don't have a deal with them i promise why would you do it then because they promised me they didn't return they will let me gamble there and they'll never ban me oh you're just gonna print money i know what that's it well why would they why would they that's crazy though yeah why would they why would they want i mean i guess yeah but you know the reason that you know like every celebrity in the world is back in kirgo now you know that well i've heard i've heard a ton of yeah it's because of me i told that i told that This was like kind of the arrangement.

They're like, can we use your name that you have audited us? Which I did, by the way. Fully audited everything. Software, dealers, corporate, like everything. I've looked at every single thing and I have full, full access to anything I want, any time I want. If they ever stopped that, I made it super clear. They can't like, there's no, there's no, there's no agreement that, you know what I'm saying? They can't cancel nothing on me.

Yeah. So I said, you can't stop me. Once you stop me from getting access, I'm going to let the world know. they go fine no problem and we'll let you gamble why do you want to access because I want to know if they're cheating people I don't want people getting hurt so you're going to start promoting it cool

right but let's say it was a casino that was dirty and I knew they were dirty all you're doing is hurting people you're not giving them a fair shot your fans that are trusting you yeah that's happened yeah you know of course and that does happen so I can confirm that they're honest and upright

with my own eyes my own hands shouldn't just pay you like a couple hundred million to say that I promise you they've never given me a check I promise on everything in the whole world They've never given me a check So you, you, it's But by the way, just you know So in return for them giving me all this access

And all this and promising not to ban me They ask if they can use my name To let all you celebrities know That I do support Kyrgo And I do and I said fine, that's a fair deal And that's how like all these guys have got to Kiergo Is they know that like I support it and what have you Yeah

Yeah I promise you they've never given me a check I'll sign I'll sign anything you want saying they never gave me a check but they're going to let you essentially print money which is so crazy yeah that's an insane thing though but i think they almost look at it as like a leader loss like they're like we're going to lose money to him he's going to print but he will be it's good i look at all the celebrities that are with kirgo right now because they were able to attach my name to it right

yeah and also something cool is like they don't have to cheat when you play baccarat you pay five percent commission on roughly half the hands that's a two and a half percent edge guaranteed right you don't have to have every Bacra player always lose everything to make money. So I can go in there and prove that everything's solid with them and it's all gravy. They don't have to cheat the way all the other online casinos do. And they have me in there telling you guys like,

look, man, I made a living out of exposing casinos like here. Like I'll, I told us, I'll walk in on a live stream and show back into the software. I said, don't tempt me. If I think anything's fishy, I'm in there. Damn. That's cool. Yeah, yeah.

That's really cool. So they look at me as like a leader loss, So you think that's, you think that, that company is going to be the wave or what? It is. Yeah. I mean, but these other companies are so massive. I mean, we talk about Drake, steak, these big companies are crushing. I think it's going to be steak and Kiergo and I think that's the only, going to be the only thing surviving.

And I think Kiergo on the up and stake on the down, if you want my opinion. If you had to bet. If I had a bet, yeah. If I had a bet, I bet on Kiergo, yeah. But why? Just because you're involved? It's not just that I'm involved. It's in, bro, ask, ask the guys, I don't want to say like, I don't want to assume me to be

honest, right? Ask them, whoever them is to allow me to go in there and take a look at all their software. Let's see what they say. Allow them to allow me to live stream, me talking to their dealers and looking, I want to stop a game midgame, you know, the dealers in the virtual, uh, the, right? I want to stop a game midgame with no warning that I'm even in that area. Apologize whoever's betting on it. I want to open all those cards and look at the order of it

and see if it looks suspicious. You ask whoever they are if they'll let me do that. And you're saying Kierre would let you do that. I've done it. Huh. Oh, yeah. So, okay, beyond gambling, right?

I love talking about this, but what do you do? Do you make any money elsewhere? Do you do it? So what are the projects? So I have a lot of projects. The first thing I did when the final like swoop of bands

banning was happening at the casinos and I had like the peak of like liquid cash in the bank. Yeah. I'm a degenerate gambler. I will flip a coin for all the money in the world if somebody will match, right? You're like, you remind me a Steve dude. Yeah. He's like just an insane. It's a, it's a different personality there.

Yeah. First thing I did was I gave every penny to it. Basically I put a fund. I put an investment fund. It's basically exclusively real estate. So almost all my money's in real estate boring slow safe super safe that's the best place ever protects me from myself yeah which is good so i don't have like readily easy access to that when is the first thing when did you first really start making money gambling gambling how old were you well i mean i started gambling i've been gambling my whole life like even as a kid but when when you when were you like y'all great at this like how did you how do you even start learning like because i feel like i could have gamble for the last 10 years but i was

I would never be like, oh, let me like look at this and see that and, well, like assess the situation the proper way. Because I would gamble off vibes. Yeah, yeah, which is a recreational gambler. You're a wreck gambler. Right. Do you think vibes matter? No.

Damn, vibes don't matter at all. You think the numbers care about your vibes. Well, you said you were mad or remember you were mad, you were losing. I was mad, but I wasn't losing because I was mad. I was mad because I was losing. Okay, fair, fair, fair, fair. So vibes don't matter. Not.

Numbers don't care about how you're viking. Yeah, numbers don't care about how you feel. Yeah, they don't care. So it's just all nump, strictly number? No, it's people, too. Okay. So imagine this. Imagine on the smallest scale, I'll give you like some really small scale,

like some obvious things, right? Yeah. Casinos try to avoid putting a hard right corners, 90 degree angles in their building. You're not about to tell me there's certain angles in a building that affect the gambling? Of course. What?

Colors, sounds. Do you ever listen to the soundtrack that they play? Yeah, well, sometimes, I was, whenever the room I'm in, they play, like, Dana's playing his own music or some shit. Red Rock with Dana White is a very unique scenario. It's dope. Yeah, yeah, it's cool.

It's cool. Bro, they let Steve put an ice bath next to a black track table. Come on. You know what I mean? Like, that's a unique scenario. But imagine you went by yourself and you weren't even Bradley Martin. You were just some dude. Okay.

And you go into Aria or wherever. I don't want to say arc something. You know, whatever. Any casino. Yeah. Just listen to the soundtrack. They won't even play a single full song. what they're telling you it's about the vibes it's not the vibes they're manipulating your

consciousness that's what I'm saying the vibes that's what you call vibes I mean the conscience is like a new age term I don't know vibes is relation to the consciousness for sure the vibe like outward you know sure the big vibe guy that okay then it's vibes yeah so they are so the vibes do matter I I don't think I understand the word vibes correctly enough to give you a good answer consciousness it affects your consciousness then yes we're on the same page yeah the food they serve the colors that they use the materials of the floor everything you're describing is like vibes. Sure, then they're dictating your vibes. Okay. What do you, what would the curvature of the building have to do? So for example, they do their best to avoid 90 degree

angles. The reason is when you have to make a sharp right turn in the hallway, you now have to make a conscious decision to turn all the way right, where if something is curved, you make no conscious decision. You walk with the curve. So when there's a sharp right angle, you now have to consciously say, I am fully turning right and walking away, which then leads your conscious mind, your subconscious into your conscious to make that decision and then you can also make the decision to keep walking and leave the building.

Holy shit, that makes so much sense. Dude, it is vibes though. Consciousness. I guess that's incredible. Yeah. So, okay, so in the music, so what, the music you think is just keeping you kind of in that loop

to continue doing what you're doing. So there's... Well, this is why there's no, like, this is why there's no clocks, no windows. Exactly. You know, they pump stuff in the air, the extra oxygen, they keep it a certain temperature.

Like, there's, bro, it's so... Because it keeps you awake. It keeps you going. Keeps you away, keeps you alert, keeps you fuel. Bro, it's endless, endless, endless. So with the music, as so small as this is. We should start doing that in gyms, pumping the oxygen. I mean, there's a lot of companies that I think are, like, advanced and, like, think about those things.

I was a guy when I was in business, I thought about those things, which is what helped me. When I got into the casino thing, I was aware of those things right away. I go, I know that trick. I've seen that move before. Damn, dude. Okay, so what else in relationship to that that's external from the gambling that you can give sort of insight to? Another thing is the Las Vegas strip was designed So you can walk from one end to the other

Without ever having to go outside Well, that is crazy that I thought it was just because it was dope You can just slide through all the stores And get the food No, they're trying to keep your consciousness They're trying to keep your vibe control Yeah

Dude, what a crazy thing Do you think, okay Do you think that's been around For the whole life of Vegas They've thought of that or that's evolved? I think it's evolved All right, so this is how I would understand it.

In the beginning, when it was literally Sin City, two Jews hired by the Italian mob to find a place that could be a lawless land controlled by them with no regulation. And they drove out from L.A. And they said, this is close enough to any metropolitists. We'll get people here, but it's far enough away where there's no conflict of other laws and regulations.

And they picked what is now known as Las Vegas. Yeah. They started building it and it was controlled by the mob. The mob, who are professional criminals, said, in the streets, we take advantage of people by using these tactics. Let's put it in this building. God, it's so amazing.

And then over time, real smart minds, business minds, MIT guys, blah, software developers, all these people came in and said, what you're on, is fire. Let me build on that. So the mob was, those were ahead of their time. Yeah. And then these, like, you know, high intelligence people came in. Not that the people in the mob weren't, but you know what I'm saying? More like nerd, like book smart people came in and said, I see what you did with your street smarts.

Let me now turn it into book smart. Let me put technology behind it. Let me put this behind it. let me take it a step further, and they built the path for the technology used now to help control our consciousness, our vibes, whatever. Yeah, yeah. I love this.

Yeah. This is so cool. It's crazy, though, how, like, because people get so lost in the whole Vegas thing. Yeah. So if you're like a, if you're a gambler and you're having a, like, how do you, I don't know. Is there anything,

is there any advice you can give like someone who's like kind of recreationally doing it? How to it be better? Like, just something really simple. Yeah, which camera do I look at? I'm going to make this very clear. Don't do it. He's going to say, don't do it. Do not gamble.

I knew you're going to say that. I say it every time. But it's so fucking, okay, but, okay, but if you're doing it, because, dude, I love it. I hate admitting that I love it, that I have fun doing it. And I've always been really strict on. If I lose this, I'm gone, which I'm thankful that I've been able to, like, hold myself to that.

Steve would call me up because if you don't quit, you know, you don't lose, which is crazy. But if you're going to do it, is there like, is there just like something simple? Yeah, I'll give, like, real advice. My real advice is don't gamble, but like, if you're going to, to gamble anyway, whatever you'd be willing to spend on a night of entertainment that consists of whatever the casino is going to offer you, that's what you bring. Because then you don't lose money, you're spending money. Yeah, that's how I've always looked at. Like if I was going to go

to Disneyland and spend whatever $1,000 on tickets and food, that's what I'm, if I'm going to say, okay, I'm willing to go spend that and lose that for the fun, for just enjoying it. For the drinks, the free dinner, your girl has a good time, you're with your buddies. Whatever you'd be willing to spend on that, that's what you bring to the casino. Because then, you never lose money, you only spend it. And if you happen to win, it's like hitting an arcade prize. Great. Good for you. Yeah. And then having that hard out where it's like you can't just, you can't go beyond that. Exactly. Yeah. That's like the best advice because like it's a hard thing like obviously to say for us to say don't gamble knowing that we gamble and like probably enjoy it.

It's it's one of those things you just kind of kind of just draw your lines really strict, really, really tough for yourself, which I guess for people personality wise can be really difficult because a lot of people who deal with like serious gambling issues yeah so gambling addiction lives and people die and you know i started a foundation like a year and a half ago for this no yeah yeah so it's in my instagram bio it's called shaken hearts on instagram uh so we did about a year and a half ago is we created a foundation where anybody who struggles with gambling addiction drug addiction alcoholism or mental health like depression or anxiety sends a dm to shaken hearts and totally for free zero cost will find the best treatment

solution for them. That's dope. Yeah. We've done that for about a year and a half. That's, that's amazing, man. Because, like, it is one of those things that you, it's like, it's so easy to say, don't do it, but I do it. Even I say don't do it. Even like drugs, same deal. Like, don't, everyone knows, don't do drugs, but obviously everyone does, you know, everyone does drugs anyway. So having outlets like that's super important. Do you have anything else like that? Or where did that come from that? Because you were just like, you knew that. Well, yeah. So, do you know any gamblers who were like, of course. Yeah, of course. And I attended GA because I wanted to know, am I a gambling addict this is a long time ago when I first was saying when I first like really was when I was making

money in business I started gambling a lot and I want and sometimes I lost rent money I'm like I lost my whole company's money one time and I had to like it was a whole thing it was like what business was this I owned uh treatment centers and pharmacies okay so there were times where I like lost the company's money I lost my rent money like you know I was like a degenerate gambler with no like real edge I just love to gamble yeah so like when my life changed and I started winning and blah blah I like knew this was a problem. How it actually happened was with famous decks. So, you know, I don't know if you know this.

I don't drink. I don't drug. I don't say curse words. I don't drink sugar. I don't drink caffeine. I don't go to strip clubs. I don't make transactions for sex. I don't eat porn.

You only have one massive thing that is affecting your dopamine. It's gambling. Gambling. And I vape and I vape. Fair. Nicotine. Nicotine is a cool one. I did quit cigarettes.

I quit cigarettes. But I don't know why you do that. Like, because I feel like, you know, like if that's a shit, too though no yeah i'm not perfect you know whatever you know when i quit i smoke cigarettes starting really young i was like a pack a day smoker i smoke newport shorts you know pack a day for a really long time and um i was like randomly one day i was like i wonder if i can control my cigarette intake i was like i'm gonna go buy cigarettes a day and i just bought a pack and my homie pulled it to my house i went on the drive when we started talking at the end of the conversation i realized i smoked

my whole day's worth of cigarettes i smoked five cigarettes in that conversation and i was like dang i was like i wonder can i go the rest of a day without smoking and i paused and I go, screw it, I wonder if I can quit. I quit. I quit. And then right when I said, I quit cigarettes, I go, and I quit sugar in the exact same moment. Now walk inside. I told my boy, I was inside my house. I go, yo, I just quit smoking. He goes, no, you didn't. I go, yeah, he goes, give me the rest of your cigarettes, threw him the pack, never smoked again. Two months goes by, I just want to know if I had the willpower. It wasn't the cost of cigarettes, wasn't the smell, wasn't the taste, was definitely

not for the health. I love smoking cigarettes. I just want to know if I can do it. Two months goes by, there's a bunch of people at my house, and I'm like, this is whack. I love cigarettes. I go on my front porch I'm like yo someone give me a cigarette Everybody had like wax cigarettes Like Marlboro Reds and parliaments And I'm like none of this is worth it You know

But one homie came out with a vape And he was like yo just hit the vape And this back in the day And the big mods, big clouds And all that stupid stuff I hit his vape one time My cigarette drones went away And just like that I was like

I guess I vape now I've been vaping ever since I feel like there's other shit Though it's not Yeah probably Everything's killing us anyway Yeah everything's killing us I've been trying to die my whole life

I feel like that's what we do though I feel like not like not that you need to do these things, but like we're all, I mean, it is true. It's an undeniable fact. We're all dying anyways. It's like kind of pick what you really want to die with, you know, or die from, I guess. It's an interesting thing. The life thing's weird, man. What do you think like gambling and like winning a ton of money and losing a ton of money has taught you about yourself? You seem like a very, obviously, to be able to do what you've done, a very smart individual. They don't give me too much credit, but no, you do. You do seem, even just the way

you speak, not even just about the gambling, the fact you're able to win so much money. what do you think it's taught you like having these super highs about yourself or just about people? First of all, anything is possible. Everything that's ever been done they told, they would say that that couldn't be done until it was done

every single time. This helped me really see it, right? Like I did things that while I'm doing it, people told me I couldn't do. They're like, that's not possible. And I'm like, well, I'm doing it. Like, what do you? Yeah.

you know let's have a conversation about this i'm doing it what do you mean it's not possible and that helped me a lot you know there was it like really pushed more mental bounds that i had created myself or or community created for me or just society created it helped me understand that those bounds are way further those goalposts of where the limit is is way further than i thought and i thought i was open-minded our minds that's the thing people really i was having a conversation with uh on this pod with uh lane norton really smart in the the physical deba body space and he was saying how like supplements and all these things in general like there's there's like you know the placebo effect of things yeah literally because you believes you're getting something

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You take another pill that doesn't have it, and you believe both pills have it and you take the one that doesn't have it just taking the thing that doesn't have it will make your mind think like well I'm receiving something that I think it is even if it was never because they say they just gave you an empty capsule

and you would feel and elicit a response that would be related to actually taking that thing because your mind believes that you are which is an insane concept I don't think it's that insane because you know we only use 10% of our brain consciously so I think a lot of that 10% comes from the balance

is we've created ourselves. And I think a higher being or community of people, I'm not going to use the word Illuminati, but I think there's been a directive that's been being controlled and created for a very long time to help limit the percentage of conscious brain we use while some of them may be used more.

100% I believe that. And this even goes down to like, I was having the same conversation with him about injuries where like if you have an injury, it's like an injury, the pain from injury can only last for so long. Your perception of it being there is the thing that starts to limit you further on

where you're like, oh, I have this knee pin or have this back pain. But like it only lasts for so long, like an actual literal injury. But then your brain will tell you that like, oh, but be careful. So then you don't do the things that you could do just because your brain is convinced you

that you're going to get hurt or re-injure, etc. But that's not even the case. So the mind is just like literally physically affecting us in so many ways. Yeah. So it's interesting you talk about that because I think for sure that's a reality. And especially now with today

is just the world and the way how insane like just politically and societally is the world is just so nuts and how everyone is attacking everyone else but it's definitely it would make sense that you know the people with all the power or all the control or whatever group you know we're not saying Illuminati but like group of people with all the control and power probably have a more closer understanding of like how actually powerful it is yeah so this all the things you said which is really funny and ironic about you know the casino and them putting certain lines so you continue and like unconsciously subconsciously you're doing these things the same thing is like it's probably being orchestrated on a large scale

in media and it has been for a long time but it's like I feel though too a lot more people are starting to wake up yeah but they're also not doing anything about it for example everybody knows TikTok is making us stupid everybody knows it yeah you still use TikTok not not I have someone who post for me. Thank God. Thank God. I haven't opened TikTok in a year. I can't, dude, I've had moments where I've looked at TikTok and I literally felt like

I was scrolling and then to get off, I feel like I'm like leaving this portal, like pulling it away from myself. It's such a weird feeling like energetically where I'm like, well, I was just sucked into this and I had to like pull myself out of it. Yeah. And it sounds silly. It sounds like, what are you talking about? You just turn the phone off.

But it is real, dude. Yeah. And if they, right, wanted to help us, who's a part of it. of they, it would just stop letting TikTok be a thing, for example. Yeah. It would just stop letting TikTok exist. But instead, they're pushing it. Yeah.

Well, remember that one point they were saying they were going to cut it off? And do you remember all that? Yeah, that was a Trump thing. And I think Trump was doing the highest stakes gambling in history. And I actually, I'm not even in here to say my opinion on Trump. But I think if people took a step back and saw what he was really doing, you would have to respect the maneuver he made. Yeah.

Yeah. What do you think he's really doing? What do you mean? I think what he was. All right. So people were coming out saying Trump talks mean on Twitter and he said grab her by the pussy. I don't know, whatever, right?

Yeah. I think what was happening, I related it to my life. When I play a quarter million dollars a hand in Baccarat, you can come up to me. I love it to me. Well, I think that's what he was doing. I love this. Yeah. Don't forget he owned casinos, right?

Yeah. If you came up to me in the middle of me gambling with, you know, call I had $10 million on the table, I'm playing $250,000 a hand, anybody, even you can come up and say anything to me, I will subconsciously give you a response. I have no idea what I said. I probably didn't mean it. I didn't even hear it.

And I had no memory that even came up to me. Because I'm so hyper-focused on the highest stakes of my life that like some girl wants to come over. Mickey, can we go shopping later? Yeah, sweetie. Whatever you want me to say to just get you away from me. I'm busy, right? Yeah.

So Trump's over there gambling with the highest stakes in the world. And people are like, what do you think about this? And he goes, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I like them. And then it comes out in the media. Oh, Trump said he liked this bad group. And Trump's probably thinking to himself, I don't even know you asked me that question.

I'm busy talking about creating World War III over TikTok because I know it's ruining my community. Yeah. It's, man, man. It's such weird. There's so much to say about this stuff. It's like without getting so deep into it. But it's,

I just find it weird as I've gotten older. Or maybe it's just because of the internet and like the just when you could see everything and like really look at it for what it is. Like how, I don't know how mindless people have become to just like arguing with each other about all these certain topics.

and it's all creating the same thing. It's still creating the divide. It's still like, whether or not you believe this or like him or like that or like whatever, it seems like it's just this giant vortex of like nonsense to keep people just fucking... Yeah, well, they want the idiots staying idiotic. They want you guys running...

They want the world running in circles so distracted with grabber by the pussy and Jeffrey Epstein and nonsense. So they're like, keep these guys out of our business. Keep them busy with stuff that doesn't matter. What about the... Jeffrey Epstein thing you think you I do you think that's not real you so because like that's a crazy thing okay I want to preface by saying I could not be any further from any portion of

supporting or or not being sympathetic to victims of pedophilia molestation sexual assault in the world we should kill those mollors agreed completely agreed I want to preface by saying that like I couldn't be any further you know by the way before you continue i saw a clip i i swear to god it has to be fake i go on the internet and i go on twitter i go on twitter nowadays and i'm looking at this i'm like this has to be fake i saw a woman sitting beside it must have been some not a reporter but a woman speaking to like some news outlet i don't even know what it was talking about how like oh this thing these people are being like persecuted for like their sexual orientation and she's speaking about being persecuted for

pedophilia as if like it's a justifiable act because that's their sexual orientation, which is insane. I thought it was fake. Yeah, there's a new term now that they use. You can't call them. Hold on. I can call anybody anything I want. Let me just start with that. Yeah, go ahead.

Yeah, hell yeah. The media, the liberal media is trying to say that you shouldn't call pedophiles the word pedophile. You should call them, there's like a stupid politically correct term now. It's like age desensitive. There's like a word. Don't quote me on that. There's a term. I forget what it is.

So idiotic. But again, I think they're just, I don't think anybody believes that. I've never met a person who approached me and goes, you know what, Mickey, I don't want you to call me a pedophile. I want to sleep with children, but I don't like the name pedophile. I've never had that conversation. You know, the reason why it's just the most idiotic thing

you could ever even sort of like justify is because it's like, you're talking about a grown adult, like doing something with a growing adult that doesn't know any better or know really where they're at, that that should be okay. That's an insane thing. There's no like. Yeah, and the chain of events of,

damages that come from that child when he grows out the trauma it's like why have why have why have age it's like if you're going down that logic it's like then the furthest blown of that is like why was there ever 18 be in war or 21 to drink like why do we have any of these sort of sort of like structural things in society that you're going to say that's okay it's like what the is happening yeah i think it's all fake it has it's bull this but it's like but but to say okay when you say that and i and i say this and i go yeah of course it's But then there's this random lady saying it And I'm like, does she believe it's real?

Or does someone go, yo, talk about this on the internet? Yeah. You know way. Yeah. There's no way. That's insane. I think every piece of media we consume is staged actors 100%. I mean, you know when you see like the whole, the whole during the vid, the COVID thing, it was all like,

they're saying random every news outlets saying the same is I think in a different way. Yep. And then they were saying this thing about like, I think recently it was like the Biden saying something. And then everyone was like, talking about is like mental health or whatever the was in every news outlet was like they said the same sort of like adjective to describe how the exact same intro you could put 30 of them on the

same monitor and they all have the same script but it's like how are people how do people even fall for at this point yeah I think that we've been conditioned generationally to believe by default that what we're always being told by the larger entity is always going to be correct yeah I think that's another mental

construct that the higher entity has built for us oh man do you think that ever changes i feel like because there's or the worst yeah because there's too many stupid people born every day to go okay i'll just fall in line i think there's more people in the world who would just go i'll fall in line then we'll be like wait what the is going on yeah because you know in the circle of let's say a thousand people there's like they're all hearing something and the guy who's like maybe a little more outspoken is like yeah this is right and they're all like oh he thinks is right and that's that guy and he always kind of

says the right stuff we'll just take it word for it well so People are followers, right? More than not, because they're all idiots. So when you have two people that are yelling, two different points of you, whoever is yelling louder is who the majority are going to follow. Then once some follow, the rest follow, because they're all followers.

So the media, who's louder than you and I, even on this podcast, we can say transgenderism is a form of mental illness, right? Yeah. And you can post that as much as you want. But when the media says it's not mental illness, it's a birth defect, more people are going to listen to the media because they're loud.

So here's where it gets interesting now, though, is because I feel as though it's, and what it's looking like is that, but at some point the mainstream media, even though it's tried so hard to like, in like envelop itself into social media, that no one's like the kids coming up, there's less people watching the mainstream.

And there's more people watching like independent sort of like people speaking. Yeah, but I think they're all controlled by the same bigger entity. really yeah 100% you think you get to a certain point they're like yo bro what's good yeah no 100% what 100% so andrew tate was right is what you're saying I it's crazy I think Andrew has a lot of very valid points yeah I don't necessarily appreciate his delivery all the time but I think ultimately most of his points are accurate at the also at the end of it I find him entertaining whether I disagree yeah the dude's hilarious yeah but he's a super sharp guy and I A lot of his points were shown to have proven validity.

Yeah. So where does this all go? Do we just like, is this going to end just like just World War III? And we're all just there. They were like, what do you think? What's your honest opinion of that? Because I think about this a lot. Because every time I try to not open up Twitter now because I'm like, dude, I just see,

it's just insane human reckless behavior and just crazy shit said, crazy said. And it's just like, it's only gone worse. The last three years, I'm like, this is insane. I can't believe how crazy it's like just. steamrolled. I think that the higher entity has a two-part plan. Plan A is to allow us and dictate us to destroy as much of ourselves as we can. We have an overpopulation problem. We have way too many people that are not required for any further in civilization, like advancements in civilization. So they're going to allow us and try to create a scenario where we have as much

destruction as possible to wipe ourselves out so then the new civilization, civilization can begin. think plan B, I think plan B is if that doesn't work, they're already working on colonizing other planets. But it's like, we're just going to recreate the same somewhere else. Except, yes, except that it's with hand-selected people. Yeah. But I feel like no matter which way it goes, because at some point, let's say like you took that a thousand years out, the idea, even colonization somewhere else, right?

But you take it a thousand years, two thousand years. Humanity just ends up in the same spot somewhere else. Because you have enough people that eventually at some point, even though they at one point we're hand selected, quote, unquote, right? It's like you're going to get to another point where we're just in the same circle. I think it has been rinse and repeat for hundreds of thousands of years, if not millions. I don't think Earth is planet zero. You think there's been other planets or there's been other like sort of cycles within this planet?

I think there's been other planets with human civilization on it and eventually got to Earth. I think Earth is a temporary place for humankind. interesting what about so then so what about like aliens and aliens are just like different different sort of human colonizations exactly right i mean it doesn't like at this point the the amount of that i've seen are like the way that people it wouldn't be so crazy but i guess then you well the question is like well how come we haven't seen it then it's like i disagree i think we have right that's what i was going to say because then it seems like well of course if it was actually there then why we wouldn't be shown it

But then the other question I have is to be like, then why wouldn't like those, like, wherever they're at, why wouldn't they pull up and be like, yo, but like I'm actually here, though? On a bigger scale where everyone goes, well, we can't really deny that. You want my opinion on why? Yeah.

I believe that we have always been in touch with what people believe are extraterrestrials. I believe that the standard alien of people picture are what's known as the grace, the big eyes, the long finger, skinny. I think those are humans that are evolved into the future. And I think we have a lot of regular daily communication with them. So it's humans that have evolved in the future affecting our present, which is their past for their betterment or for their worse. Because I believe they're humans, the same way we're humans.

Some of us are good and some of us are bad. They have difference of opinions. So some of them will come here and try to dictate technologies or... It's almost like a giant sandbox into another giant sandbox into like another giant sandbox. That's what I think. And I think they come, they interact with us. Now I don't know if you know this. Do you know that there are, that the ability to create a wormhole is incredibly

greater on the surface of water than it is in air. What's the significance of that? Scientifically, it's easier for a wormhole to be created on the surface of water than it is the air. It's just like a fact. You can look it up. Right. Right.

Do you know the statistics on how many U.S.os are seen versus UFOs? U.S.os. Unidentified submerged objects. So things are like, what is that in the water? Yeah, things in the water, leaving the water, or entering the water. So you're believing in an aquaman. that's fucking dope of sorts of sorts okay i think that we have active alien bases uh in certain parts of the ocean uh i believe that the higher entity knows it and they're working with them

which are humans from the future to give us the technologies from the future which is why there'll be random moments in human history that we have incredible percentage of advancements in civilization and in other large periods of time we don't it's because they've worked together with the humans from the future which are which is for our present their past aliens. So Ocean Gate, they probably got too close and it was like, I don't know. You know, in theory, I think Ocean Gate was a slightly different story. But yeah, I think that kind of thing.

Man. But so, okay, if that's the case, right, what's the point do you think that? If you believe that, and I'm not saying it, because at this point, like, nothing really sounds crazy to me anymore. What's the point? Like, to test things, to see like a... So we are animals by nature and we have a natural instinct of survival. At the end of the day, everything we do is for survival.

So with luxuries, without luxuries, at the end of everything boils down to survival. I think our past ancestors, which have now evolved into graze, the aliens, said, hey, we have to continue to survive. We want our bloodline to continue. We want our civilization as human beings to continue, right? We want to keep living. We don't all just want to perish. So let's go back to wherever different civilizations of our kind are in different generations and impact their civilization with technologies

to help us survive longer. Let's say a war broke out. Do it like they're feeding off of us? Yeah, yeah. I think they're using us to change their present, which is our future. Wouldn't it just be all robots, though?

It seems like that's where we're going. It's like the robot. Well, again, I think we go back to this idea of survival. If we know that robots have the capabilities of wiping humans off the planet, why would humans continue to create these robots? I imagine there was a time they said that to themselves and go let's slow down guys before they wipe us off the planet

we have no more survival but but that's what i'm saying though like what would be the like okay you you think it's to continue living yeah in one form or another yeah so it's just like okay okay let's say that's real not real then what do you think is is the most important thing for us as humans now. Like, what should we be doing? What should be focused on besides survival? Because obviously that's the base. I've done a lot of thought on this.

You know, I like talking to you about this? Because, like, you're, you know, I said you were sharp and you were smart. The gambling thing is interesting because, like, it has this weird sort of connection to all of this shit, the understanding of, like, just the details of things to like a weird, kind of like a weird degree.

Because I think, I don't know, what's in your $50 million? sort of like buy to learn this thing is but for because like how many other people have figured out that sort of structure in the gambling space is that like a common thing there are apes and there are sharps that figure out a lot of exploits um i was the first one to figure out exactly how i beat back okay so put that to the side for now but why why do you think then what like what's the point what's the point of this now then i've done a lot of deep thought on this i think there is no point and i think that's very hopeless and it's very futile so what i decided was i'm going

to enjoy my life for what it is now and there's nothing i can do to control the masses or the future of my civilization i'm going to enjoy what i have in my life now yeah i mean i think that is the point though too right is the is like the present moment it's all we have yeah Why do you think it's so easy for people to get dragged away from that? I think the media is constantly wanting them in positions to not try to dictate what they're trying to dictate for the future. To not try to dictate what they're, what do you mean in relationship to what we're doing?

So I think that this higher entity who works with the future humans, which are present aliens, right, to do things for our civilization. But again, I think it's handpicked. I think they want all the idiots gone, for example. so they will continue to keep us idiots and confused and talking about Jeffrey Epstein

and talking about Trump grabbing up and talking about things that will never ever actually matter so we never take a look at them and say, what do you guys actually doing over there? Yeah, but and so it's just about, it's just about survival for them. Sure. It's such a weird thing.

Well, imagine, I don't know if you have kids or not, and you don't got to say it on the air, but imagine you have a wife and kids and you could say one of two things to them. hey honey hey kids we're all going to die today or you can say hey honey hey kids i'm going to do everything i can so we live live forever and my kids you guys are going to have your own kids and you're going to have your own kids and your own kids kids and you're all going to be provided for which option do you choose yeah of course of course the latter yeah so imagine you're the

ability to guarantee it yeah i mean i can't you can't really argue with that weird it's like weird conspiracy it's almost not even like not even even even even if that idea wasn't exactly true like that concept is true that concept is what has perpetuated and like why certain people or certain families are in control and power and this and that um i guess it's like a weird you know like i asked you earlier but like the weird hopeless question in it all is like then what's the point now is just like you said just to just to love our lives for what they are now no matter what they are yeah being the present and just love it making most of it The interesting thing about that is in every moment in my life that I look back on where I was most present, I got the furthest in my life to where I, in my mind, I wanted to go.

Yeah. Because I was actually doing the things in the moment that would actually get me there instead of focus on the 10,000 of the things that keep me in this sort of like negative space that kept me somewhere I didn't want to be. I think that's beautiful. But that's it. Like that, I mean, that's all we can focus. I just wish more people would disconnect from like the, like, in my, in my space right now, the. internet space it's like the twitters and the nonsense just argumentative like everyone else everyone's wrong i'm right this is that blah blah blah blah the argumentative bulls like what about right now with

you at home you know and what's going on in your life and what do you actually focus on and not just everything outside i just wish more people would do it i agree but we've we've like really conditioned people to not do it we've been conditioned to condition others yeah when we have a big platform like this we only do it because we are incentivized and tricked and manipulated and like you would say our vibes or whatever yeah to continue to pedal this nonsense to everybody else that listens yeah and it's interesting too because the way that all these algorithms and like the social media and all the space is set up um is your you notice your reward even me as a podcast or a creator like my greatest rewards following money all this stuff has always been in creating content

that's a little bit more like crazy or wild or like dumb. The dumb, I was going to say the dumber it is, the more higher rewards you get. Yeah. And then anytime you have a conversation like this, it's always overshadowed. It's never something that rises to the top. Like it's very rare that those conversations are like, oh, that's the thing that's going viral. It'll be the thing about Drake. Yeah.

That's what'll go viral. It won't be the thing about like this conversation, which is the most important part of this whole podcast. Yeah. And even the conversations I've had in the past or the content that I made over the last 10 years, it's always like, oh, he lifted the girls and he's putting the girls on the bar. That's viral. It's just the distraction. Even though I think it's cool and I think people think it's cool, that was never, that was like, I did that knowing that like, oh, a lot of people are going to like this. So even I know that I'm playing into that sort of circle when I wish the

things that would go more viral would be like the things that are actually truly beneficial to people. And it's just a weird place to be in like, I'm aware of it as I'm doing it and then doing it's still because I still need to like reach as many people as possible to then hope that those people see these actual moments. You know, it's funny. Something you said was that you make it because you know more people will like it, right? The dumb stuff. Yeah.

I don't think that's true. I know that you believe that's true. I don't think that people like it more. I think this higher entity pushes that content more. So you're led to have led to believe based on incentive. I'm just basing on like algorithms. rhythmic sort of push. Yeah, exactly.

I think that it's dictated that the dumb, you know, in layman's terms, the dumb stuff goes more viral. That's like in the algorithm. It has to be. You know, like they created that. So your reward system,

you get higher rewards from the dumber stuff to keep us away from doing this. So how do we beat it like we beat the casinos? This is the same, it's coming down in the same, dude. We can just keep pushing it, you know, keep pushing the narrative,

keep pushing our truth, you know? But the problem is, would you keep pushing it if you made zero dollars? off it. Whatever it costs you to run this podcast, right? And I'm, you know, I know roughly what it costs, right? Right. If you lot, if you had to spend that money every day, the same money that you're spending now, the same output with zero input, would you still do it? I would to a point. And the point would be when I couldn't because. Because you ran out of money. Yes. That's the

crazy thing. They put you in a chokehold. You have to make dumb content. Because if you only did something like this, I was provoking. They wouldn't let you get views. If you don't get views, you don't get money you don't get money eventually you go broke you can't you literally can't do it to the point you cannot do it yeah it's set up for failure dude it's a weird space man yeah it's a weird space i think every space has that choke hold created by a higher entity yeah but then what about the people who like excel and pass it and blow past it like for example like joe rogan right joe rogan's an example of someone who like is a little bit more outspoken on things that aren't fitting the of narratives. Do you think there's still just sort of narratives within those that are not only do

I think there's narratives in there, but I think he was also not how you say like, I don't think somebody called Joe Rogan and said, hey, man, I'm going to make you a plant to be the counterbalance to try to diffuse this exact argument, right? I think that's what happened. I think he was gaining traction on the route that you're talking about, like pushing his own narrative, which maybe was neutral, unbiased, and thought provoking. Yeah. And the higher entity sought and said, he's a perfect candidate for us to make the biggest one in the world so we don't have to worry about a hundred of them we only have to worry about one we'll make them the biggest so all the other ones can disappear we're not going to push them so we have one guy counterbalancing

this argument so this exact conversation will happen honestly does not seem too far-fetched which is so weird it's just a weird thing man it's a weird thing when like it if you know in conspiracy it's like it just doesn't feel like a conspiracy it feels like well based on everything I've seen and everything I see, it just seems real. Yeah. And then it gets a little like, what? It gets a little scary. Very scary, very, very scary, which is why I decided to give all that kind of stuff up. Like, what can I do about it? How can I change? And I'm just going to live right now. I'm going to live my best life today. Yeah. That's a very scary thought. So what do you do? What, in your mind, what do you do that is allowing you to live your best life

today? Like, what things do you actually do day to day that you really do enjoy? I really enjoy playing paintball. I love paintball. Yeah. Holy shit. I like, I, yeah, I became super serious in the sport. I played way long ago. I'm super competitive. The first event of the season is actually next weekend in Vegas. It's going to be lit. I mean like 10,000 people there. Huge tournament and the NXL. It's going to be a great time. And like I spent a lot of my time doing that. My brother plays paintball. And the only reason I got back into paintball, spend more time with him. So my brother plays a semi pro, which for anyone who doesn't know, basically he's a professional paintball player. Yeah. So every day that he's not, he's a truck driver, right? Any day that he's not working like all his PTO. He plays paintball. So I'm like, bro, I want to hang out with you. Like, how do we do it? And he goes, all my days off. I'm at the field. So come meet me at the field. And I'm like, I'm not going to come to the field and not play. So I started playing again just to spend time with him. And it became so, God, gosh darn fun, man. Like, like, I'm super competitive again. I'm playing D2. I'm like, I play on like pro teams every

weekend for practice. Like, I'm having a blast. Do you, do you, have you ever play with Dan? Because Dan's a big gambling. He's a big paintball. Dan who? Bill Zarian. I have not played with him. I've been to his house. I've seen his field there super six set up super six i invite him to play all the time i invite him to play in the tournament in vegas yeah i'm always trying to invite dan to play paintball i love dan yeah you know what's interesting about dan yeah i don't care you know there there's uh some controversy right by the way i know a lot of facts unarguable facts for the record but yeah the first time i met dan was also at a power slap event actually and somehow we were just

standing next to each other like if like a moment it was just he and i go hey man you know how you he goes hey i seen on the internet i go yeah cool to meet you whatever we start talking he's so intelligent that not only can he participate in a conversation about any topic he can contribute to that conversation yeah no matter the topic and that was really cool yeah he's a great dude i remember i spent like i was like a couple weeks in Thailand with him it was like the most fun ever bro. Really? Yeah. Somebody told me something today that he's with Kiergo also. I don't know if that's a fact. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if that's a fact. I kind of heard it in passing this morning. No idea. I'd ask him for sure. Yeah. He's supposed to come on the pod. I've just been trying. I've been

missing him because he's he's waiting for some sort of, I think he's doing some new app that he's really invested in like getting getting done right before we kind of have the conversation. But I love the guy. I think he's as smart as. Yeah, of course everyone has there. A nice guy. What a great host. Gracious. Just a nice guy. Yeah. Yeah. He's a solid guy. It's weird how like those sort of like figures always get to like oh they're bad it's like dude bro just because he had girls around like i've i've been in tiling with him me and him and vatali was actually there and maybe like 20 girls and then like five would leave and then five more would come in 25 and uh the most respectful dude but like you know you hear that you'd hear like people would be like

oh he's this guy so like this dude like but do you hear that from people who know them never you know what i'm saying yeah it's always the outside because But then again, too, you also see, you know, you see the content that's made. But then again, no, it's not actually like, there's never content of him being a bad person. It's just like content of like, maybe it's outside people being like, I wish I had that. And then being like that guy because he has it. I swear I figured out the answer. I swear to you.

Ready? Most people have this mental construct that their lives can only go so far. Their mental prison is very small, right? They're in a jail cell in their brain. Yeah. When they see someone who figured out a way out of it and they're doing things that this person never thought are possible, they can't actually they physically

biologically cannot draw the conclusion the line from A to B they actually can't figure it out how a guy can sleep with that many girls or like have a house like that or make that kind of money

they actually they physically can't figure it out so there's only one answer it's a lie it's a lie or he cheated or he did this it's the only way that their brain can get from themselves point A to point B in their imagination yeah

it's dude why why are humans like that though. Why are some not like that? I think most I think most of all of us were conditioned again by this higher entity to be like that. I don't think naturally humans are like that. Right. I think naturally we're curious, we're adventurous, we're open-minded, right? We can only build judgment. We're not born with judgment. We build judgment from our community, right? The society. So in the same way. And I think the reason there's such a slim amount of people that are outside of that is because a few

of us have been able to break free. And those few is what makes up the higher entity. That high entity is consistent 100% of people who have found a way to step out of that mental prison. But how so okay I fully agree with you 100% what you just said I fully agree. How come some people are just different than like how come like I'm not saying oh I'm one of those people but I always like for example all this like the COVID I kept my gym open I remember thinking like none of this is making sense like even though like I understand this is bad for some people and this is hurting some people but like the way that they sort of masked it and the way that they kind of like ill decided what was okay what wasn't okay like i'm looking at it on i'm like

this is not rational it's not logical so i'm like this can't be a hundred percent true the way that they're making it and so i was always like this isn't right and then even i look back on my life like i always had moments where i was like i was the kid who was like you know we should all leave because like the teacher's not here we won't get in trouble if we go out to the yard we'll be good and it would be like no i'm afraid i don't want to do it why do you think there are some people who are just willing like like just off bat like genetically i don't know if they're just born that way to just be like, wait, I'm not going to fall in line. I think it's because you're better than them.

I think you're better, you're smarter, and you're stronger than them. Okay, so if you're, okay, if you want to become a person like that, do you think you can? Or is it, do you think it's just? I think it's all taught the same way the mental prison is taught. But no one taught me that. Like, I grew up without a father. No one taught me this. That's because you're better than them.

The people that are not better than the rest of them can be taught to escape the mental prison. So you think some people just genetically off-rip are just like, they're just wired different. Of course. Some people are better than others, of course. That's a fact. Yeah. Okay. So how do you, how do you, you just got to be willing to listen to them,

but it's like, how do you know you're listening to the right source or not the wrong source? If they can just sit down and just use their brain, their brain, not the information, their own information, not the information being crammed down their throat their whole life. Their own information, just ask a question. Why? Yeah, that's the, that's the thing I've always said. Why? Why?

critically think about it. Like instead of just saying, you told me, that guy told me this is what it is. Why is this it? Why? Like, fuck. I don't get why. I don't understand why that's so difficult, though. Because they're not better.

They're not as strong. They're not as smart. They're not as good as you. Yeah. So they have to be taught. And some of them is a harder process because they're way further down the scale. They're dumber, slower, and weaker. Yeah.

And life circumstances, things have happened, reasons why it's an excuse or this is happening to them because of that or this happened to me so i'm here so it's like how do we get people to to let go of the conditions that have happened to them the problem is that you would have to create a loudspeaker louder than the loudspeaker of the current condition creators which is all the media it's all the apps all the social media the news the newspapers it's all of it i'm trying man subscribe to this channel it's like trying to yeah except when it happens just like it happened with andrew they're going to shut your stuff down Then what?

Yeah. I don't know, dude. Weird. Fuck. This was a good podcast. I had fun. This was fun, dude. I haven't slept in two days.

Why? Been busy. Doing what? Working. But like, what's work if you don't have to really work? I enjoy it. Yeah. It keeps me hyper focus.

What are you working on right now? So I'm not gambling, obviously. No, no, no. Well, one thing I'm doing, I don't know if you knew that. I'm funding all my fans gambling. So again, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I can show you my numbers on my phone. I'll show you, like, my real sheet.

Yeah. So I posted it only two times on my story, so a total 48 hours. And we, there's no way to calculate it, but guaranteed we broke gambling history with the amount of submissions I got. And I'm going to continue to post it. So anyone watching, just follow my Instagram

and you'll, at Dirty Goth Boy, Boys, VOI, and you'll see, like, I post the link, like, very discreetly. When did you decide to start getting all the tattoos? Getting them? Yeah. Like, because you got a ton, right? Yeah, my whole body. From the top of my whole head, down to my toes, my whole body, everything.

Yeah, yeah. I started when I was fresh out of juvie, I think, 15 or 16. I got two at the same time and just never looked back. When did you get the face tattoos? I started. Are you trying to be a rapper, SoundCloud rapper? No, this is before. I think this is before SoundCloud even exists.

Yeah, no, no, no. I wanted to look like a Chipotle bag. I spent so much time in detention, staring at the desk, that I thought I should look like this detention desk. That's too funny. I don't want to get Chipotle bag. It's crazy. Yeah.

I love it, though. I wanted to look like the final boss on Spotify. Yeah. You'd have to defeat me to get a platinum deal with Spotify. That's hilarious. Yeah. I started at like 19 with my face or something like that. Yeah.

Do you regret any of the tattoos? All of them. I've been removing my tattoos for, I've been removing. Yeah, I've been removing my tattoos for five years. You should have seen what I used to look like. Five years I've been removing. Yeah. If I could have no tattoos, it's not my fingers.

I promise right now. It's not both of them. Damn. I only have one tattoo and I love it. That's all right. I love it. You don't have any that you like like that you really love? Sure.

There's tattoos I like or have a cool story or I like the way it looks aesthetically or it's a beautiful piece of art or whatever. There's a lot of the people that tattoo me, they were famous tattoos. A lot of them are dead now. So I have like a lot of like. A legacy there pieces. Yeah. A lot of legacy pieces from very iconic tattoos and graffiti writers. But it doesn't bring them back to life.

Yeah. Yeah. What about your personal life? Do you have like a girl? Is it like, do you talk about that kind of stuff? I'll talk a little bit about it. I know it doesn't look this way on social media, but I've only been in long-term relationships my whole life

since middle school, middle school, high school, after high school, all the way. I'm fairly recently single. Yeah. I am looking for a wife. Yeah, me too. Yeah. So all the ladies out there just know, you know, I'm looking for a wife. How old are you?

32. Perfect, yeah. Yeah, and I'm rich. Yeah, you are. You are. You're smart. You're smart. man no that's awesome um have you tried to date like in this this la space i have a lot of trouble

breaking through because i feel like i'm always battling against other rich famous guys and it becomes this really weird war that i'm not interested in partaking in yeah that's a it sounds like a god that's just a whole other thing that's obviously like a different playing field but it's like i think that's one of the things that make me so hesitant to like really even put my relationship out there on the internet because i'm like i don't want to do that And then so and so DMs them. And it's like, but then it's like, then am I picking the wrong people

who if I think they're going to do that anyways, you know? So that becomes another huge part to it. The problem is that you don't know until you know. And by the time you know, it could be too late. Too late, for sure. You know, so you have to take a gamble. You have to take a risk on your relationships. Yeah.

I feel like it's better just not having it there. I agree. I've never posted any of my girlfriends ever on the internet. Never once has their face been on any of my pages. Yeah. Don't tag them. I've never even followed any girlfriend. I've ever dated.

I won't even give them the follow. I mean it's makes sense I'm not trying to hide them from the world I'm trying to hide the world from them oh god it just reminds me Drake yeah I ripped it yeah

no no but like he did it recently with the dick thing was so funny he didn't know so anyways you've seen his dick big? The video thing? I've seen the video there I didn't look

I've been busy decent how decent? I don't know it's like decent I don't know it's like a far away video it's not like it's not like up close and partly we're like damn

he's hard or sure soft he probably was hard and he was playing with it this is weird to talk about i'm not going i mean you've seen the video what was he yeah yeah i mean it looked yeah it was up yeah it was up yeah but it's like a weird this is very weird conversation no i'm gonna look it up because i'm curious you know i don't i don't think it's gay to look i'm curious yeah yeah he was it was for me i was like when i saw it i was like why was he doing like he shot it he was in a bed he shot it like as if there was mirrors over there and i was just like it was just a weird position do it in my opinion sure i would have just done in a different position you know

I also really curious, like, and if Drake ever sees this, I always wonder, like, did he, did it really get leaked? Or did like, they really like, hey, let me, this is like, I might as well do this now. Come on. I know. Because in my mind, it's like, I have so many things that it's like, there are only one way they got out because of me. Yeah. And I'm not mad, you know, it's just, I always think it's funny when they do the whole celebrity leaking thing. Yeah.

I'm like, ah, this is. Why not? I've been waiting for the day. My dick pics get leaked. Dude, that would be sick, honestly. Yeah. I would love that. I have a few sex tapes.

You know, like I bang like a lot of porn stars or whatever. So, like, a lot of the girls that I'm with like to film just for like the mems or whatever, a couple of them that work in the adult industry have posted those videos. I have fans send me screenshots all the time of me and sex tapes. And I'm always like, I'm always supposed to act mad. You know what I mean? But like, loki, I'm like, fire. Yeah.

How did this get out there? No, no. No, no. No, no. It's like, no, that's not me. Oh, it's all the tattoos. Yeah, it's literally a full frontal, like, phase. I'm just like, you know.

dude yeah so so when are you going back to Vegas because i gotta go we gotta go i'm going on i'm gonna hit you with the little baby what's the move where are we going you can hit me i'm going for the paintball event so i'll be there for like a week i really want to i want to just sit down and just like just like some blackjack with you sure yeah if they'll let you wherever the fuck oh yeah there's two places i can play yeah okay um we'll play small just for fun entertainment yeah yeah no problem i'm down dude okay um dude thank you for coming on thanks for You crushed it. That was, I really enjoyed this conversation a lot.

Me too. Like, for real. You're good at the. Have you done a lot of podcasts? Um, I don't know. Maybe like 2,000 or so, like, give or take. 2000 podcasts? Yeah.

I mean, I don't have a lot, like just like a few billion views on my interviews. Like, so small. Just a few. Something like. But you're the man, bro. But this is me. You just, if you just call me, like, we just talk. Like, I don't even need a camera.

We can just talk. Yeah, no, I will. I will. I appreciate you, by that. Thanks for coming, man. For real. anything you want to tell anything you want to let them know whatever find you all that good obviously you told me instagram was which got at dirty goth boy boys be oh i'm at dirty goth boy on everything

and uh if you struggle with gambling addiction mental health like depression anxiety drug addiction alcoholism hit up at shaken hearts also on instagram um i think that's it i don't know probably shout out mom you know no i don't know yeah yeah thank you for coming bro thanks for yeah absolutely that was awesome yeah