RAWTALK - H3 CALLS OUT SNEAKO & TATE ARRESTED IN ROMANIA?

Episode Date: January 3, 2023

Watch these two worlds collide with our guest & the host of The H3 podcast Ethan Klein.These two guys bridge the gap between their opinions & built a friendship along the way. They discuss & come to an understanding about some hard hitting topics from Content creating, relationships, growth, Andrew Tate, pandemic, fitness & BDE.?! This is a pod we knew you weren’t expecting so sit back and enjoy the conversation.SPONSORS: HTTPS://www.mintmobile.com/RawTalk HTTPS://www.bluechew.com promo code: BradSUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

this is a big moment are we recording yeah okay cool what's a huge moment um I feel like like what I had Hassan on yeah audience was like fuck you why would you do that why would you platform this guy really yeah let some of them not not all of them a lot of I went to the comments and a lot of people or I don't know maybe it changed over time but a lot of people were like it's nice to see these guys having a conversation which I thought was nice yeah but that's like honestly I mean you know obviously you know obviously that's the thing with all this like internet shit and like i guess specifically in like the genre that you because like you're kind of in that not so much political space but you talk a lot yeah yeah

i am in the political space with his son yeah so that's why i think i think it's a little more charged when they come to like like this and that and whatever but well thank you for having me on first of all yeah we had you on our show and it was such a fun time it was so good it was so is it's actually like a really wholesome nice podcast and we had a good time i don't think we ever had beef necessarily maybe just a misunderstanding yeah yeah but i think it's good to to try to bridge some gaps here between between some people that that i may have had friction with yeah but i know you a lot of your audience probably hates my guts like i know that going in and it's fine it's yeah i don't know if like they i mean i think there's just certain things like you know we we did the pod me and

you on yours and people will see certain clips and it'll be clipped like crazy out of context and it'll just be like ethan hates people who works out like all this crazy shit and And I remember you sent me this one clip and it was funny because it just literally sounded like you were just like working out. It's just dumb. Dude, they made me so dirty. Like a lot of people hate me. We talked about this on our show. But on TikTok, there's like a whole gym culture.

Yeah. And which you're a part of, obviously. And they all like, I'm the guy who hates exercising. Yeah. So what is that about? Because you got to tell them now. Yeah. So I don't hate exercising.

I exercise. Actually, I've been exercising a lot. Lost like 20, 30 pounds. Yeah. In the past like six months, I've been athletic my whole life. You know, I'm a fat lard ass now, but like in high school and shit out. And in college, I was pretty athletic. I played water polo.

And I have a great respect for people like you who go to the gym and sculpt their body in such a way. Because like I said, going to the gym and getting physically fit, there's no shortcut to that. Whether you're poor or your Bill Gates, like you can't pay someone else to do that for you. Like you have to do it yourself. Yeah. And so there's a level of. dedication and just straight up hard work that goes into that I've always respected yeah the thing is like the clip that always goes around to me on TikTok is um I was just making like a silly joke about how

we did this and it's funny because when I explained this that dude took it and made it sound like I said working out isn't worth it was so funny I was just goofing around on the podcast making a joke about how if you go on a treadmill an hour a day for 50 years, does it save you more life than how does it get you more life on the back end of being healthy? You know what I mean? Because an hour a day for 50 years a long time. Yeah. And in the end, we calculated that it is worth it, a lot worth it. It saves you, it makes you live way longer than the amount of time you're on the treadmill. Right. And so I guess people just went gangbusters and they made it seem like yeah but I actually I don't I don't hate working out I think it's obviously super

important to you so you played sports when you were in high school water polo yeah just so great it's one of the hardest one of the hardest sports yeah it was tough man the training for that was like crazy in the early mornings yeah we used to wake up at like 430 a.m. in high school sometimes people were so wanting to skip out on water polo practice dudes would literally shit in the pool. There would be human shits in the pool. So they can get out of it. It's because it was a health issue.

So they had to cancel practice for the morning. So people would shit. People would shit in the pool to cancel practice. And it was awesome. I love that shit. Yeah, it was great. So I'm curious, like for you content and all this stuff over time, where did it start? Because I didn't know enough about this.

Obviously, I didn't look into like all the stuff. I like to just ask about it. But where did you start the idea of you? wanting to make YouTube content because you did content that wasn't the podcast stuff in the beginning. Yeah, yeah. And then you transitioned into this. How long have you been doing the podcast stuff

specifically? I think the podcast has been like five years. Five years. And my whole career time on YouTube is probably like over 10 years. Yeah. It's funny. I always want to do comedy. And I think a lot of your fans probably are like fans of my old stuff, right?

I get that a lot of like he used to be funny but now he's like a hack or whatever. Now He's like, Yeah. Fallen, whatever. So that's cool. So we have that,

we have that like a little bit, um, something that connects us. There's some hope there. Yeah, there's some hope there. No, because that's what I'm saying.

Like I would, I'd read comments like that and people are like, oh, he used to do this and I used to watch him doing this. Yeah. Yeah. And now they're like, you know, I like that.

I like when I read comments like that because it's like, okay, there's hope. There's hope. There's hope for us. Like, you know what I mean? Because I haven't changed that much.

I always wanted to work in comedy. and I didn't really have any way to do it it felt like impossible to break into like comedy even like writing was something I thought maybe I could do it's like how the fuck do you even break into that I was living in Israel with my now wife and we lived there together for five years and she had a video project

and it's funny my whole career comes out of spite at something my wife said no way she goes she goes she was making a video content with someone in her class and she goes and she says about this one guy he's so he's so good at acting he's so cool he can do anything on camera and i was like fuck that guy i can do i can do all that shit i'm not impressed and so we started making videos together and posting them online under h3 h3 productions which is our initials it's just hella hackman and ethan cline and the he he was taste

and so it's just the three is a e and so um we started posting videos online and i really liked it actually and we found like a really small audience you know i don't think anybody like i didn't make a living doing it for like at least two years it was just love of the game yeah and um it was really weird kind of like i i you know tim and eric that kind of stuff yeah yeah because those guys were like my comedy idols and so i was making really weird kind of stuff just trying to to find my voice but we found um we found a little bit of the audience and i think the channel really blew up when i started doing like reaction videos and stuff like that um and so it's just been a long journey really of um making stupid little videos in my underwear and my studio apartment you know in

Israel yeah why do why do you think people uh why do you think people say you change though i think what about you yeah that's a good question so as far I'm aware. I don't think I changed, but I understand why people think that, right, like outwardly. I think there was kind of like a golden age of my YouTube career on my old channel H-J3 Productions where there was this whole kind of emerging group of people, the social justice warriors. And I'm talking about like the good old ones, you know what I mean, with like the blue hair and the humongous. You remember that shit? Like, she tripped out. This guy said, Hugh Mungus to this girl, Zarnah, and she had a fucking meltdown.

Just because, like, fat, big? She said, what's your name? And he said, Hugh. And she said, Hugh, what? And humongous. And I think a lot of the people watch you probably remember that, because I did, like, a whole video series about it. But she was like, yeah, she thought he was referencing his penis. He was just making a stupid dad joke.

But, like, the level of freaking out that was a result of that stupid joke is, It was just like gold, right? And what is the freaking out of this that he said that is? She was accusing him of like sexually harassing her or something, something stupid, right? Because he said humongous. He said his name was humongous. There was lots of other stuff like, you know, women saying that AC is sexist or that. AC?

Yeah, the AC is sexist because women tend to be more cold than men. Wait, no. There's no way that's a real thing. No, it is. It was a real thing. And that's why it was such good comedy fodder for me, right? Yeah. There was shit like man spreading.

BuzzFeed did this whole thing about man spreading. That was super funny to me, you know, because men have shit in their legs. Like women, they sit there like this on the subway and they go, what's with men? They open their fucking legs. Well, I have shit. I have shit in my legs. Yeah. I can't just be like this.

I can't sit like this. I'll be, I won't be able to have kids. Yeah. So there's all this shit that's. super funny. Yeah. That's like, I guess the category is like anti-social justice warrior. Okay. There was like all the Gamergate shit. And so I actually made a ton of videos about this kind of stuff, right? And so I think it attracted a lot of more conservative leaning people who were just kind of, but at the time it was like everybody was in on the party because these people were just

so absurd and the content was so funny. I wasn't very open with my politics. or anything really so so i think there was a there was a lot of people that came for that kind of content and they just had this idea of me in their mind of being like uh more like them than i was yeah okay i make sense i really don't know how it is and i'm not saying y'all like hate women or something but i think there was just some there was some level of a more of a conservatism uh perspective in the fans than then then i had and that was okay you know what i mean because I never talked about my politics and stuff. And I think people tend to see the people they like as more like them than they are, right?

Because they don't, they didn't know me at all, right? Yeah. So there was a lot of that. And I think people, as I did the podcast and started doing more long term, long form content. Obviously, a lot of who you are is going to come out when you're talking for three hours, nonstop. You know what I mean? There's no editing there. there's no like sugar coating and stuff especially the live stuff which i love by the way oh thanks so

much thank you yeah it was great it was great having you on there yeah i think there's a magic in the live but also there's no takebacks which is why i get canceled all the time or getting trouble with shit um but as i you know did more and more content a lot of the fans i think that came for them from from that time they started to i think realized that i wasn't like them yeah and Not that there's anything wrong with that, but, like, I would make videos about, like, the Catholic Church. I would, did, like, a whole rant about how the Catholic Church is,

there was this huge story about, like, how they were sheltering a bunch of pedophiles on the East Coast and, like, moving them around and shit. But I say, I say shit, like, I'm ready to disband the whole Catholic Church, you know what I mean? And people don't like that shit, right? Yeah. As you can understand.

Of course. And so there's stuff like that. People get angry. And then there's stuff where I'm criticizing the place. police and people don't like that and so there are certain bits of chipping out the old people who were more conservative viewpoint and I think at this point they're all gone and they just were like man I remember when I could watch his videos and enjoy them yeah I just this whole thing I find so interesting just in general this like I guess content driven around like conservatism or like you

know liberal and it's like it just seems like there's no at the end of the day I don't know, it just doesn't, it never goes anywhere that's good. You know what I'm saying? Because it's always kind of just like someone shares an opinion and it's, because it's opposite or opposing to someone else, it's just like, it's a problem. Because people are always reactive with like feelings. Yeah. You know?

And then there's just a lot of stuff that doesn't seem to like line up or add up to me. It's just like, for example, we'll get, we'll get into this conversation a little bit, but like the Tate stuff, but the, not necessarily this thing that's going on right now, which I want to ask you your opinion about. but just the the two sides of I guess we'll call it what you said we're on your podcast like the manosphere thing first like kind of the content that you make has on and all that like kind of like the two sides right and I think to me the thing that's so interesting about it is both sides do the exact same thing in a different way right it's like they rally their audience kind of against the

other side in relationship to their content and I feel like overall like in time as this kind of stuff progresses like it doesn't actually doesn't actually doesn't actually actually make people on the other side fully understand the other side and that's why like I started wanting to do more content like where I was like even wanting to reach out to you to talk to you to try and be on the podcast because like I don't care if someone else believe something that I don't believe I don't need someone to think what I think yeah I honestly just like learning and understanding from people and I and obviously I like now that I did the podcast with you I did a I looked at a bunch more of your content and I can be like this shit's funny I like it I like what

you put into it. I like the energy you put into it. And I just think like I'm trying to find more of that, at least in the kind of content I create. Because I don't, I just don't see any benefit in the, just the, you're wrong, I'm right side. And that's the thing about it. Like I wanted to ask you your perspective on it. Do you think overall the content that you make is like a like a net positive to the internet or like a negative? Because like just in general, it seems not all the content, but in some ways can be just like, um, you know, roosing. Like you're just, kind of getting people roused up. Yeah.

Rousing. Excuse me. To go back to what you said before I answer that, I agree with you, you know, and I'm making more of an effort to kind of like not have to fight every fight and not have to take on everything that somebody says I disagree with. I think that's one of my problems, right, is that I feel like I can't let shit go and I have to like talk about every single stupid thing. And I don't think that's a good way to connect with people or to live your life.

Do I think what I do is a net positive? actually yeah because and but I want to say I'm not saying it wasn't I'm just curious it's not my goal to be to be frank to be a net positive I'm not like my it's not like my mission statement to make the world a better place right like I'm just trying to entertain people and make people laugh and forget about their shit during the week you know what I mean for sure but I do think like my express purpose with making the show with his song which is political the leftovers yeah is you know I felt like I feel like a lot of the change I want to see in this country

is going to come from the younger people and young people tend not to vote or be politically active. They're apathetic, right? Yeah, for sure. All right, guys, quick and a bunch of from our sponsor, Mittmobile. All right, so check this out. Mittmobile is the first sell plan that you don't need to go into a store to get.

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Very easy, very seamless, very affordable. midmobile.com slash raw talk. Let's get back in this podcast. And the older generations, like the really old ones, the retirees, they're like, don't have shit to do. They've got all the fucking time in the world. And those motherfuckers are vote. Yeah.

And they're super conservative. And so something, that was an express kind of mission statement of making that show is that I wanted to activate more young people to be interested in politics. And I respect so much what Hassan is done because he's like one of the biggest Twitch streamers. And he talks about politics.

And it's like the fact that he's able to get people interested in that is kind of miraculous. And keep their attention. Because Twitch is not a thing that's like, you're not just posting YouTube videos. That's like he's 10 hours a day type shit. insane I think he was the number one most watched this year yeah this so so the guy has like a gift for that I think what he's doing is super important and so I wanted to kind of participate in that

and when I say by the way again because I know there's probably a lot of conservatives watching the show when I say like I want to activate young people I'm talking about stuff like universal health care. I don't think that people should have to pay for insulin. I don't think people should be incarcerated for nonviolent crimes. I don't think that prisons should be owned by private companies and be profiting of prisons. I think university should be free or heavy or damn near close. You know what I mean? I believe that that there should be like a universal basic income from people who as we automate the world more and more you know what i mean people it's just only natural that there's going to be less jobs i think we got i think what i'm interested in is like the welfare of

everybody in in the country and especially the people on the bottom side because they're the ones that are going to need the most help coming up you know what i mean this isn't like a culture war thing where i want like fucking kitty boxes in your uh kindergartens for kids to take shit and kitty box or whatever the fuck it is that they talk about on fox news you know I mean, I genuinely, like, I just want to advocate for, like, a stable and healthy democracy that we live in. Here's my question to that, because, like, I obviously, the amount of money, specifically California, but the U.S. takes from people in taxes is so tremendous that I wonder why more stuff like that doesn't happen. Yeah.

I do understand the side where people go, you know, what about, like, the business owners and people always talk about that? because I can understand that side of, for example, like raising the wages and like how that could affect the business owner because having to pay a certain tax, excuse me, a certain wage and specifically in California payroll taxes on top of that. And it affecting actually the business in a, not a negative way, but like in a way where then the business is going to have to increase costs, excuse me, increase expenses as far as like incurring more income. So they're going to have to change their pricing. So it does affect the whole thing. But what I'm saying is I'm not saying it can't happen i'm just saying i i could understand both sides of it but i do the thing i

don't understand because the amount of money that i pay in taxes specifically yeah in california i'm always just kind of like and i kind of talked with asan about this a little bit is like where the fuck is that money going the police the police bro it's crazy you know what the la spends on police like the city or the county of los angeles that has one of the few cities in california that has a city tax on top of the state taxes already high it goes to the police, like 50% of the city's budget goes to the LAPD billions of dollars. And so this is kind of one of the issues too, because there's like a whole back the blue, people who respect the police and all this.

Which I'm for sure one of those people. Yeah, good, good. So it's good that I can talk to, to that perspective. Yeah. Part of what I really believe is that the funding on that needs to be moved around, right? Like, police don't need to be responding to like mental health. issues. People, police, armed police, don't need to respond to every call that happens. They're doing too much, right? And they're not trained to handle a lot of the situations that they're

going to, to answer for. Like, um, like I said, like mental health is a lot of stuff you see, you know, um, uh, arguments, uh, traffic stops even. Like, why do the police need to do traffic stops? Like, how many people are getting needlessly arrested or, um, uh, arguments, uh, traffic stops? Like, even violently confronted for some like a traffic stop because you bring this energy right that the police have there

there's an energy right they're fucking armed to the teeth you bring this energy that you're going to have more violent confrontations and you don't need to spend that much either because the amount of money it costs to militarize or maybe you don't think they're militarized

but like to arm and them up like that is extraordinary. And so I think that's a big problem. Do you think it needs to be like a different genre of police? Yeah, I'm not even in favor of cutting the defund the police. You know what I mean? I'm in favor of moving it around a little bit to other social services that help prevent crime, right?

I see what you're saying. Like if you could go into like a lot of the really poor. areas here where there's like no opportunities there's no outlooks right because crime is the result of like it's a crime of desperation right i mean when you're stealing shit i don't think people really want to ever be stealing they're doing it because they don't have a good outlook they don't have a good way to make money it's like literally a crime of desperation and so if you like we're talking about billions and billions of dollars we spend on the LAPD every year, if we could shave off like a hundred million, just invest it in kind of like low income, high, high risk neighborhoods

in like after school programs, investing in some of the infrastructure around there and giving them some opportunities, some alternatives, right, to like gang banking or drug dealing, I think that's going to prevent a lot of crime, stuff like that. And so you don't think it just keeps if they if that happens it just keeps pushing it outwards then if that happened in that area where it is and then let's say it made it nicer and then it just where there isn't isn't being received it just kind of goes it's not about gentrifying their neighborhood it's about giving them like and all alternatives to like gang banging so so it's not about like making their neighborhood nicer and then like the poor people move to different neighborhood it's about having like a facility where kids

can come play video games or play basketball or come hang out and there's like positive role models there for them and that shit's expensive right yeah i see what you're saying yeah because i think culturally i think it's more like people fall into certain things because other people around them do it for sure and it's okay and it's like since he does it i see it he's cool he has money that's what like this is what i see and that's what i see is working so i'm gonna go ahead to do it myself as well i understand that perspective for sure yeah and but but yeah i mean it's i agree with you the taxation issue is crazy i mean especially here in l-a i mean i pay so much in fucking taxes i'm sure you understand yeah and so um it's frustrating to see like

there's still so many problems and i think the why we see that is because we use our money to address the symptom and not the root cause of i feel like just these politicians just pocketing everything dude i just like they're just like they're in their family or some shit they do do that i mean they do do that sometimes you know what i mean uh that's just some good old fashion corruption yeah i mean I don't know it to a T exactly what's happening, but it's just like, it just feels like there's so much money that it did like every year that it doesn't make sense for it to just progressively get worse.

Yeah, if you look on the federal level where they're dealing with like trillions of dollars in budget, if you go look at like the military, they literally lose unaccounted for, just like vanished, poof gone, hundreds of billions of dollars a year. Like they're in the war in Iraq that happened, there's like a trillion dollars that's just completely unaccounted for like just gone yeah I knew that we just didn't we just leave a bunch of shit there too yeah yeah yeah yeah just

left it there what the fuck because it's cheaper to leave it than bring it back you know well that's insane though that's fucking crazy but there was something else you said I wanted to touch on which was that um you're talking about the city oh about a business owners yeah like you raise taxes, you raise minimum wage, it affects the business owners, the small business owners, basically small business. I'm not talking so, I mean, obviously it affects everyone, but people who are like kind of just making it, like they might need to now increase their prices and then like a customer might be like, fuck this is too expensive. I'm going to go to the bigger business, the bigger box that like they can they can price out to small businesses. So I think

that's a misunderstanding a lot of times that people have with like, um, socialistic kind of attempts at like social changes like that when you I think it's an easy way to attack such policies but the the reality is in policies like that is that the money's coming from the people up top to benefit the people in the bottom I don't think in any of the stuff that like Joe Biden was pitching or even aOC and all these kind of policies to get demonized like the Green New Deal or whatever like this money is coming from the richest highest bracket individuals and companies, and it's being used to bring it down and benefit for the benefit of people and small business owners as well. So I don't think the plan is ever to raise their taxes. I see

what you mean on like the minimum wage, right? Like obviously that that would affect them. Yeah. But ultimately, there does need to be some level of redistribution of wealth is kind of like a not a nice way to say it. But there needs to be some level. level of responsibility that the people at the highest levels of earning and you're looking at people who are sitting on literally a fucking mountain of gold like so about billionaires billionaires multi billionaires and by the way i'm not a socialist i don't even believe that like i have no problem with billionaires existing you know i mean i'm a business owner but i do think that like there's countries that do it really well like scandinavia they're not like a real socialistic

society they're not like communists you know what i mean But they do have like super high tax rates that which they use for like to have incredible social services for for people like free college. They have a unit like a basic income. They have like incredible mental health facilities. Their prisons for example are like nice. Like you don't go there and come out worse than you went in. You like you like imagine like the prisons here. They're like hell. It's like hell, right? Like we all know that. You go there and it's fucking hell The whole point of prison is to rehabilitate people, right? To give them a second chance and to help society

Yeah, but I don't think that's the point of it It seems like it's just like a money scheme here A money scheme also in America people like to just I think in general punish people Like it's we're there we're putting them there to punish them Like we want them to suffer right But but like ultimately what is that doesn't help society So if you look at prisons in like Scandinavia they're like nice you know what I mean like actually nice like their rooms are like kind of dope to be like

it's crazy it seems crazy he'll get arrested in Scandinavia or something yeah no like for real and and so but but the interesting thing is the amount of people that come back to prison the i forget the term for it um is like very low almost non-existent yeah whereas here in america people they go they come back they go they come back and we spend a lot of fucking money on housing them yeah like 30,000 per prisoner a year but it doesn't make sense so because isn't that just it's like a private business it's just like we're just dumping tax money into like some private business yeah it's fucked up which is crazy that's something there's certain things that should not be owned by private by private business healthcare in my opinion

is something that's too important to let private businesses own because you don't want a profit incentive to be involved in something that's so important to like our welfare right like prisons health care shit like that well that's what i'm so i don't i don't want to get into this so much but like you know during the whole uh the whole vid thing the whole p demi the what the p demi the p demi yeah the p demi yeah the okay during that whole thing it's like you know that was that was one of things that bothered me so much is like they're telling all these people this the this uh the jab is free right yeah yeah it's not free our tax money is paid to a trillion dollar pharmaceutical company.

Yeah. And we're already paying this tax money to then get these jabs. Yeah. And so like that kind of stuff just seems so crazy to me because like they convince everyone that it's free, but it's not because they already took it out of your taxes and they paid it to this like trillion dollar private company. So that's why during that whole thing, I was so like, that was another reason why besides just the like the actual, the non expression of, you know, going to the gym and all this stuff

actually being important and them really not mentioning much of that during the time and being so forcing of take this, take this jab, take this thing. And it's like, and they're telling everyone it's free. It's like, dude, this is not free. This is just, it's a subsidized money to a private company. And they're just encouraging the fuck out of it. It's free in a way, right? Because like if anyone can walk in and get it, I think that's what they mean.

Right. Obviously, we paid a fuck load of money as tax pay. But it's not free then. It's free because you don't go to walk and pay it. It's free in a way. Like if you're broke as shit, you're not going to go to a pharmacy and spend, 50 bucks for a shot you're able to say fuck that true but it's free for them for me and my taxes i probably paid tens of thousands of dollars for it right for my tax record or whatever so it's not

it's not free in that way but i think the messaging of saying it's free is important so that people know they don't have to pay literally to get it right yeah but i see what you mean just to just the fact that it's a like i said even prior to me talking about that point like if it was something that wasn't owned by like a private company that it's just like you know whose hands could be in the pockets of these this pharmaceutical companies to like the highest level which is like of course they made a lot of money they made a lot yeah and it's just like i i get it i understand it but at the same time it just feels shitty and then i see that and i'm like this just feels shitty it's not like it's some like pristine company it's like these guys are just pocketing fuck tons and fuck tons of money

because it's just like well we all need to do this what's interesting is we i think both any political affiliation we can all agree that the pharmaceutical companies are fucking um terrible right they're like they're like killing people and to make money yeah it's insane and so um the question is like what do you do about it right because like are you in favor of like are you like no regulations kind of guy or are you like think that some regulations because ultimately it's like got to do something about it right so what is it yeah i mean there needs to be a level of of course I just think like I don't know I guess in my mind I just wish people were just fucking like fair and people just seem to be and I learned this just in my own personal life

my own business doings and relationships business relationships even friendships that you know turn in business stuff is like people just aren't fair people just want the most for the least and people want to like maybe in the beginning they do a good job and then eventually they just do less because they just want to like get by and you take that to the highest scale of like these massive companies and it's like all they do is see money and they don't care that if it's like affecting people negatively or if it's like taking money out of someone else's pocket they just don't give a fuck

and that's such a massive scale they don't buy design right that's what capitalism is these are huge publicly traded companies and they're the only people they care about appeasing is their shareholders right and so it's literally by design that they don't fucking care about the that they only care about money that's the whole that's capitalism right I guess what bothers me when we talk about this I because I agree is then I think about you know during that whole time they're like

this is the government caring about us saying we need to take this, this jab. But in reality, it's like we just funded this company trillions of dollars. Like that's on the back end of this thing that, not saying that like this can't help anyone or this didn't help anyone, but on the back end of that like help is money. Yeah. And it's not just we're not like, because during the time, it's like, it's almost as if like the government was trying to convince people that like,

we were trying to help you. It's like, dude, none of this is about helping. This is just about fucking money. So it frustrated me. Yeah. So the whole, the whole way that that played out was kind of interesting right the government was like okay we need

a vaccine and we need it fast and the technology that actually came through that is kind of like going to change the world so there was like a good thing that came out of it which is like this i mean they developed a vaccine in like six months which before it takes like 10 20 years it's unheard of right and so which is a fishy as fuck to me why it just seems weird why does it seem weird it just seems like it was already there or there was it was already there i don't know dude i mean to be honest the vaccine already existed i think the whole thing was some bullshit well my honest you think the vaccine is like just sugar water or something i mean dude you needed to take six of them to for it to like work apparently they were like this and take it okay four three i did three

two less than six yeah but that's normal right to get boosters like that that's not a new thing i thought that boosters is like a yearly thing not like you need you need four this year for it to be good. It was like, yo, here's one. By the way, you got to pay for this one. Here's another one. By the way, here's another one. It just seemed like it just, to me, I was like, what the fuck? Yeah. The whole thing felt weird where it was like, shouldn't it just be good? Like, I get it yearly, whatever, maybe like a, you know, I think the measles or the whatever, the pox is like every six years or some shit like that. I don't even know the time. But for this to be like, you need all four of these for this to be effective was like crazy as hell

to me. I think why it was like that is because, um, We were working so fast. We. They were working so fast, right? And it was kind of like a changing landscape. We're like measles. We know what measles is, right? We know what the fuck it is. We have the vaccine. There's no like measles 2.0 around the corner. And so I think what happened was that it was such a changing landscape that they did it faster than they ever would. And I think I think the science frankly was showing. I just obviously disagree with you with the, the whole vaccine thing to a to a degree i think there's we agree some level on like the money aspect of it yeah but i think they they realize that to get the most efficacy out of it we would you would need to supplement it with with more vaccine and again that's not that's not unheard of right like rate you know how many shots you got to get for rabies it's like 12 or some shit like back to back to back yeah but it's like rabies and something they force everyone to get want to force and everyone to get at one point my i guess my question is it is it true i don't

I don't know this because I haven't looked at the numbers, but is it true that more people who got the vaccine have actually died now from the virus and people who are unvaccinated? I'm not super familiar, but it's possible, right? Because at this point, there's a lot of fucking people who are vaccinated. Yeah.

And it makes, like, if you're just looking at a numbers game, it's possible. I don't know, I'm not looking at the stats. But I think, you know, at first there was like a moving gold post, right? So I understand the skepticism. At first it was like, you're going to, you're like, not. 90% not going to catch it.

And then they're like 60% you're not going to catch it. And then they're like okay, you're going to catch it, but it's going to reduce in a, it's going to reduce the severity of it, right? It fucked me up, man. So, so like, I get like the, the communication from the government was dog was like fucking horrible.

Right. So like that moving goalpost was confused was like not good. Yeah. But, but at the end of the day, you know, if you look at people who were dying in the hospital, the morbidity rate is like very close to zero with people who were fully vaccinated versus not. Yeah. The thing that really just bothered me, man, was the airports were open the whole time. That's what really got me going. You know what I talked about the whole gym thing staying open? Because I would, the health officers were always

coming to my gym and go like, they would say, you got to do this and do that. And I'm going to like, well, tell me about this. And I'd ask me about the airport. And they go, oh, that's federal jurisdiction so we don't deal with that yeah so i'd always say okay so you're telling me that because you're it's federal jurisdiction that covid is not spreading there and they go oh they're like basically just refuse to answer questions at that point and it was always frustrating to me because i remember during the time in the thick of it in the beginning in like to early middle of this it was just open wide open there was no change and to me it's just like as well as like Costco down the street and all these other places that were just okayed because like they followed some sort of principle um it was

just like I get it because you know someone's going to say well people need to use the airport right um I guess in my mind it was like it was they made it such a serious thing that I figured well if it was so serious then wouldn't you want only certain people to go and use the airport because it's like the biggest transport of people like they would have to prove that they would need to use it if it's such a deadly and killer disease yeah that's a fair point and I just and I would ask them these questions like straight up in person they were just like oh we don't know what to say that's federal like we don't even deal with that and I just remember feeling like just because this is local public level you're just you're you know you're able to just say I can't do this but I can go to I can get

on a plane and fly across the country yeah there there was a certain level of um hypocrisy throughout it right yeah and there and it's like there has to be because like you said I mean you can't close like the grocery store I remember though during the peak of it there was like special hours for for older people right where it was just they would come in they didn't allow other shoppers in I think this and yeah this must have been specifically an LA thing because this didn't happen really Like a few other places, maybe. Maybe California. California was very stringent on this time.

Yeah, we were the first state to lock down. But there was like lines, you know, to get into the grocery store and air, and, you know, airliners would, they weren't, they would sell out like only a quarter of the seats so people were spread out. But I don't think it was because they were doing it. I think they just weren't, people were afraid to fly, so people just weren't buying tickets. I don't think they were doing it strategically. Well, they were rigged. I think they were forbidden.

from selling by the government they were yeah yeah there were any of that yeah there was I was on planes and it was like full during the height of it yeah yeah so it's possible yeah so that they said you know it's essential right they go this is essential what can you do dude that was but yeah there's obviously a hypocrisy did that and there was a lot of friction around it too like they said that like worshiping and going to church wasn't essential and so there was a lot of and like what you say well the gym is essential right and so there's a lot of you know what they also said was essential during that time yeah which really fucking got me pissed off i mean i get it is what it is but um because i was the only reason why i know all this stuff is because i was dealing

with it personally and i was so i was trying to figure out ways to figure it out with my gym in the same county where my gym is la county right wooden hills area uh San Fernando valley creating like if we were in here and there's a bunch of people and we're creating pornography. Yeah. That was completely okay. Oh, because they're entertainment. Yeah. And I was like, so we can be doing that, but I can't be in my gym. And it was just, there was so much stuff that I was like, this is just, all this has pissed me off. You're talking about people are literally swapping saliva. That's funny. That is funny. Bodily fluids. That's awesome that they were still making porn. Yeah. They were. And I was just like, that's why I was so that, you know, obviously the, I had all the other,

my personal connection to the gym and why it was important, but all these other things that I kept see. And I'm just like, this is just not fair. Yeah. And then it bothered me when we start talking about essential because it's like, who is someone to say what's essential for someone's like livelihood? Someone needs to make money and you kill people's businesses. And then it's like, who knows the guy who had a gym or the guy who had a business that had to close because it's not essential.

He now has no income. Let's say his kid is on fucking chemo. He can't pay for chemo. His kid dies. Like you can't say that that never happened. You know? So it's just like where there was no like, there was no middle ground of like, you know, we can make it make sense.

it was just like this is okay and that's not and it's just i just felt really really strongly about that essential versus not essential thing was like yeah i think it's a gray area right when you start debating like what does essential mean with other people because obviously it means different things to different people yeah of course and so i totally understand you know where you're coming from uh that that that that perspective right um especially when you see that people are shooting porn and shit like because they didn't they didn't have the like they weren't able to sculpt things really because everything moved so fast because like we were able to continue working because we're media yeah right but also that's the thing about me is like I was also media

but they were like obviously I have a gym that's running as well but it's like a part of me being in there filming content is like everyone in there does film content so we were trying to figure all these loopholes but did anything work and the end as I understand it They didn't really, you didn't really punish you, right? So they dropped the case. They dropped the case. So in the end, the city was kind of let you go with that. Yeah, but like because I like fought back, you know,

and so then the frustration comes like, yeah, I got away with it overall. But there's a ton of people who didn't have the same ability, right? Because they don't have a social media platform. They don't have another means of making money. That was maybe their only source of money. And then they're scared to even challenge the system because they don't have another source of money to pay a lawyer to challenge the system. Yeah.

Because maybe they just made enough to get by. And it's like I had that luxury to fight back because I had the other sources of income to fight back. But my situation is not like all of the other business owners who just got squished, just ruined their livelihood. And so that's a frustrating part to see that. It just felt like, yeah, I got to fight back and they basically be like, okay, like let's forget about it.

But all these other people just like surrendered and lost their incomes, lost their livelihood. Yeah, there was a lot of small businesses, is like restaurants and stuff that disappeared, you know what I mean? But like, let me ask you this, just hypothetically speaking, right? Is there, is there a point where the pandemic killed enough people where you would have understood, you know what I mean? Like, how bad could that, should the pandemic have been to justify what they did?

Because there's got to be a point, right? Yeah, I guess like when it first started going. I don't know. I mean, I think when it first started going, like, I, like, what they're, they made it look like right away and how scary like they because i remember the first three months i did close down everything because i was like oh right what the fuck you seen all these videos from china people laying on the floor and shit yeah so i was like okay i guess like i thought like if people were just dropping dead on the floor like out here on the street i'd have been like all right

it's really serious yeah you know or like but it wasn't like that like it certain people who were already kind of predisposed most people who had these issues were like they were being complicated by COVID because of the respiratory and the cardiovascular issues that came along with it. And they were exacerbating existing issues. And those were the majority of the people who were like just dying from it. Or people who like, you know, had other core mobilities that were like going to cause some sort of issue anyways. Yeah. So that's how they were dying. You know, it's like I look at that. And obviously I'm not saying anyone's life isn't worth more than someone else's life. But then this on the same sentence, if like if I could say that to be

true, then like anyone's income is also not the more essential versus not essential for someone I think because someone's income is also related to their ability to survive. I can't I don't know exactly what the line is. I think maybe if I stepped outside and like people were just dying on the floor like as you walk by it's like it's really really bad really bad yeah because the thing the thing about like dealing with a pandemic as like an epidemiologist or whatever these people that deal with like viral spread they're kind of fucked right because they're damned if they do and damned if they don't they don't really know what's going to happen with

this COVID but they see that like it's got like in the beginning 2% mortality which doesn't seem like a lot but that's fucking insane because like if you at the beginning right it was different because there was no people didn't know how to deal with it the the first version was more deadly there was no vaccines there was no whatever right so 2% mortality is insane dude right because if you do the math on that was like 300 million people in the United States what's 2% of like 300 million you know what I mean it's like it's like it's like if I think it's at least 20 million so if you imagine like 20 million people dying that is a catastrophe right yeah and so in the beginning you know for them it's like do we do we act to like prevent that or do

we under under react and then that happens so it's almost like they didn't really it's like it's a hard decision to make from a government from a governmental position right yeah but i would this is my thing with that i i see what you're saying and i would fully and i understand right you don't want to under react you don't want to overreact you trying to find a balance but if in your reaction there was no like because nowhere along the line in the beginning where they like you guys should be exercising and eating right and all this stuff actually will affect like your effective like how affected you are by this virus there was none of that all that stuff comes out two years later how important it would have been how important it is but like that the whole time was one of the

most important things but nowhere along the line did they say you know they're just like stay inside and do this and hide and but they were never like you know you should try to I'm not even saying go to a gym necessarily I'm saying work on your diet and these other things because like this is going to complicate people with cardiovascular issues with lung with respiratory issues like they knew that but they never said hey this is also really important they just said stay inside six feet apart all this stuff that was like actually to be honest i don't think they knew that in the beginning i think they found out somewhere in the middle that um basically no because your outcome has a lot to do with basically your fat but they knew not even your fat

they knew what it did to the body right away because that's how they were able to start saying like, this is serious. They knew what it did to the cardiovascular system. So if you know that it's affecting that, you know right away if that's stronger, your chances of surviving are better. If you're working on increasing the strength. First of all,

I agree that like the health messaging, you know, in general. But that's what I'm saying. So when I think about this as a whole, I'm like if they really cared, it was like overreacting. You're not going to change your health outlook in like two weeks.

No. If there's a pandemic ravaging the fucking country saying, you'll do some fucking. jumping jacks is it going to help you obviously it's not that simple but but you're right in that like you know but here's a deal in the beginning if we know it affects this part of the body and if we know that we don't have a cure for this and we know okay what can what can strengthen this part of the body it's not hiding and staying inside and that's what they were telling everyone it's strengthen your body yeah they they just never said that until it was like oh by the way this is going

to help too and that's why i saw this and i was like this is like what's what's happening here So that's why I didn't believe in it. I don't think that people need to know that being fat is unhealthy. They don't need to be told that, do they? I think some people, it's not even necessarily, because not even necessarily being fat is what's specifically unhealthy. It's like just the actual, you know, a sedentary or whatever, not moving around shit. Like people know that.

That's like, I feel like that's kind of a separate issue of like health awareness, you know, and like obviously in America and throughout the whole Western world, there's like an obesity epidemic going on that's fucked up. really bad what's this Jim weed yeah wait is there weed in this yeah it's a broad spectrum hemp so it's not actually like it's not gonna get you high wait THC free okay okay Lions main yeah nootropic solid product I like what the fuck so let's let's uh let's change subject a little bit we got to talk about we got to talk about jail again okay we're gonna talk about mr. Tate yeah okay you know I'm a Tate fan I do know that yeah

yeah um and obviously right now not the best time for Tate fans okay Okay, interesting. But this is my thing. Okay, I want to get your perspective on this. Because obviously I know how you feel about this and about this as a whole. And I want to preface this by saying human trafficking is very bad. Okay, good. I'm glad we're starting on a good place.

Yes, human trafficking is terrible. Not good, right. It's one of the worst things ever easily. Okay, okay. Right, because this is my issue with the internet. My biggest issue with the internet is like, you know content creators like you content not not use at the issue i'm just saying like people make content around this stuff um right off the bat because they write when it's

trending it gets views you know even i'll tweet something about andrew tate when this happened it's like views you know engagement like we're saying right away because he's on a thousand different like news outlets saying human trafficker people are going to see this and go he's a human trafficker, right? That's what they try to do, but have they proven it yet? So you're saying, you know, innocent until proven guilty, right? Of course. Right. So because here's my issue with it, right? So when we talk about, I'll give you another example like two weeks ago. And again, I want to say I'm not, I want to preface this, but I'm not defending someone being a human trafficking. I understand. You're saying maybe people are judging him too quickly. Because people love to. And that's the

thing people, and there's a lot of reasons why, obviously I think that exists. And you know, we could talk about it, but I'm just going to give you a different example. Like, obviously human trafficking is, is a massive allegation. It's a huge thing like that it's, if this proven true, the rest of his life is pretty much fucked. We'll call it what it is, right? Yeah, yeah. But now, so now we'll talk about like domestic violence, right? Same thing.

But, so check this out. Durvanta Davis, he gets called out, he's a boxer. Okay. Right? Two weeks ago or something like his girl is calling 911 and like acting like, he's hitting her and all this stuff and then so then you see this this like he's reacting like I don't even want to do this shit anymore I don't want to box anymore he felt so hurt about it because he was like this isn't true right this is my issue with it all I'll get to it a week or a couple

days after this whole like 911 call and this girl's pretending like he's hurting her he's hitting her and her daughter like to have a kid she comes back and she says oh I'm sorry I wasn't in a good space this isn't true he didn't hit me he never hit his daughter right this is my issue with this stuff. Someone's going to see the first bit of the negative human trafficker, domestic violence. And they're going to go, that motherfucker is a woman beater. And he beats his family. And they're not going to see anything else that comes next. Some people will when it goes, oh, it was actually, I was overreacting. This isn't real, right? This wasn't true. Right. So right away, you label someone as something that maybe not necessarily is 100% the truth yet,

which is a very large badge to stick on someone. And I can speak from a perspective in this because like I've dealt with shit on the internet where I've been in situations where I've been dragged for things that were never true and I just had to live with it. So when I see it, I'm like, it's a fuck situation to be in a position where like, again, if it's true, you're fucked. You're done for. If it's not true, you get dragged and people just go, oh, that they just don't see the whole story. Sure. You know? So that's a big problem, right? And that's like a horrible crime. I mean, a horrible, horrible crime to accuse someone of, like, a domestic

abuse. I've heard about I'm really into like true crime and I've heard about shit like a girl will like lie that she was raped just straight up lie and the dude will spend like 20 years in prison. I mean, this is a heinous fucking crime. I feel like if you lie about something like that, you should get the same penalty

that they would get. For sure. About Andrew Tate though. Let's talk about it. Here's where I find it interesting about Andrew Tate. He was arrested recently. for human trafficking he was investigated for it before he got out on bail or something right

but now they came back they arrested him they put him in jail he tried to post bail but a judge made an order that he cannot leave he has to be there for at least 30 days as they

decide what they want to do with prosecution right? It was in Romania yeah in Romania now as I understand of Romanian law there is a pretty high burden of evidence to get that 30 day but he's not he's not been convicted

what I find interesting about Andrew Tate is the things he's being accused of he's literally said he does you're talking about literally the cam girl stuff yeah he literally said he literally had a website he goes he's like yo this is how I make my living I trick girls into thinking they're my girlfriend he had like at one point like 50 cam girls

and what he's accused of doing is like bringing them out over there getting them involved in like a sex trade cam girling something that they i guess weren't otherwise interested in he also had like women accomplices who were also arrested to who like you know in prostitution there's this thing called like the top girl whoever who like helps manage the other girls or like uh and so a few of his accomplices have also been arrested in this and he's he's basically um accused of not letting them leave the house to go out he's accused of taking their passports in certain spots and also being physically violent with them this is from his website that he has since removed but i've talked about this a lot this was from his like he's like also like a pickup artist right coach alpha male whatever the fuck he says i've been running a web can this is his words on his website word for word word on his website 100% bona fide reel says i've been running a webcam studio for nearly a decade i've had over 75 girls work for me and my business model is different than 99% of web camp studio

owners over 50% of my employees were actually my girlfriend at at the time um of all my girlfriends none were in the adult in entertainment industry before they met me he says literally that was my job so for and I'm just going to stop to analyze a little bit so this this insinuation that they were not in the industry before right and he got them in by being their girlfriend okay literally that was my job my job was to meet a girl going a few dates sleep with her test if she's quality get her to fall in love with me to where she'd do anything I say again read it's a it's a coercion there right I mean even if you don't think he's doing anything illegal.

By his own words, he's saying, I get them to fall in love with me, and then they're going to do everything I say, right? But that's not really how relationships work, right? Like maybe in his fantasy, alpha world, but like read between the lines, but he goes on. And then I get her on webcam so we can become rich together.

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This is how I came up with what is now the PhD system. I learned the most time efficient way to meet girls. Get them through the dating process. Get them to bed. Test if they're good. or not and begin the process of them falling deeper and deeper into love with me you know they're not falling in love with him he has a horror he has a compound of 75 girls they're all in love with him they've never done porn before and they're stuck in this compound doing

webcam for him so but this is what he says publicly right this is what he says front facing obviously the accusations is that he doesn't let them leave and takes their passport to extremely efficiently get women in love with me that's it and no one else on the internet is teaching this no one how do i mean it sounds like they are afraid of him he's like i'm teaching women how to fall in love with me 100% guaranteed they've never done porn before but they do it for me and so there's also other stuff coming out like i'm trying to find um there was dms of him of someone put out that um he was selling, but that was like his, I guess he was teaching people how to be a sex trafficker,

which is kind of an interesting business model. The first time the U.S. Embassy came to him and was like, we have reports that you're holding someone against their will. That's the United States government acting on behalf of one of their citizens, but he, he wrote it off as like, she lied, I'm out of prison, all good. And so I get it, right? Like you can the boyfriend thing. Yeah, you can be like, okay, I get that. But now this time, okay, you have five accusers all former webcam of his saying that he coerced them into doing sex work didn't let them leave the compound and some of the girls say that he took their passport physically preventing them from leaving that he was physically violent with them and also two of his accomplices were arrested

and the judge has issued this 30 day the 30 day thing seals the deal and and i'll remind you too i don't know if you've seen this but andrew tate literally said he moved to romania Have you seen this clip? Yeah. He moved to Romania because the laws are more lax there. And so, but you add it all together, right? And so the first time he gets off, I get it. But the second time, what just happened, in combination with the five accusers,

the 30 days by court order that he can't leave, adding up to be very, very credible besides the fact of, you know. But do you think, do you think in general, though like let's say like in a in a in a world where yeah go ahead my experience of the legal system that in the western legal systems whether england america any of them if a girl says something she needs zero proof she needs zero evidence all she needs to do is say it any bit and you have to defend yourself you've ever interacted with you can go to the police and say he did this do you have any evidence no no no I know

fuck your life up. They will come and they will arrest you and they'll put you on bail and they will search your stuff and go through your phone and go through your personal life and find new things to charge you with. It's insanity and I can't live under this system anymore so I had to move somewhere with common sense rules so I moved so so he's I think he said it several times in different ways. Well that one that makes sense to me that's like the same thing we're talking about earlier about here he's like being able to do whatever you want do you think you can do whatever you want America he said that several times. Okay you were just listening to the fresh fit that but that was sneako on there with him uh sneko had a question for you because i

told me oh really okay he wanted to know what do you stand on like what do you truly believe in he's curious that's a stupid fuck that's like a stupid fucking sneako question yeah you're like you want me to boil down my essence to like one thing like what do i stand for i mean this dude thinks because he got kicked off the internet for being a giant piece of shit that like he stands for something like i'm sorry bro sneako's like the biggest fucking loser on the really he's such a piece of shit okay yeah mic he's likable right like andrew tate he's funny he's smart he's smart right to a degree and he's he is likable but like you see the good parts of him i don't think you see like the bad parts that a lot of people see because i think

you're in general an optimistic guy right yeah and you see the best in people and so um but Sneko, like the reason he got banned for YouTube, have you seen that? Like he was like talking to a sexual assault survivor and like mock rating her on camera. Like the man is fucking demented. That's why he got banned off YouTube. I haven't seen that. No, he's fucked. He's demented. He's really fucked up. Like he's not well. So he goes, what do I stand for? I mean, I don't know, bro. It's like you, I'm this is if you want to have a long conversation, which I think we're having, right? Yeah, of course. If you want to know what I stand for, watch the podcast. bro it's just like a weird got-you question yeah you fucking idiot you're fucked you're

fuck dude why you're just funny your reaction's hilarious it's stupid it's a dumb question watch i guess i guess i guess more so because you know it was in regards to the i guess kind of the hate and disdain that you had for it from it seemingly sounded like again this is his is not exactly the way he worded this question or asked me is because um in regards to the i guess the alpha right you know the the disdain for tate and people on that genre okay in general yeah um i guess the question was more in regards to like why do you have i guess not so much do you specific stand for what you specifically stand for but why so much hate for that genre of people in a sense well the genre is very hateful i mean if you look at what people like andrew tate

and i i'm not super familiar with sniko's body of work so i can't really even speak to like who he is. I've seen the clips of why he got banned and shit. But it is it's they lead with hate. I mean, their whole messaging is to coerce, to trick, to, um, basically dominate women. And they lead with a very in my opinion violently misogynistic, um, attitude that is like really regressive. It's, all right guys, quick and rushing from one of our sponsors, Blue Chew. If you ever were like, man, I just need a little bit extra in the bedroom. Blue Chew has your back. And right now it's actually cool. Because right now you can say hard and fresh, right? Because they have some new flavors, some mint chewables.

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get it for free or maybe try some of the mint chewables again stay hard and fresh it's like kind of it's kind of dope to be honest step into the bedroom hard congratulations let's get back a podcast. It's really regressive. It's not. And so I find it interesting that they're like, oh, why do you hate me when I feel like that's the flip that they come out with? I mean, at the end of the day, I do feel like Andrew Tate is a very hateful character, right? Even though you know him and he's funny and you guys have probably a good rapport, right? And I've seen him with like Aidan Ross and they have good rapport and they're funny and stuff. But at the end of day, if you look at what he's saying and his self-help to men, it is a very corrupt.

hateful worldview that involves like um second class citizen women and i and i don't believe in that i actually think it's it's not good it's a dangerous message and it's a bad message okay so two things yeah in regards to the the hate right remember i told you when i was on your podcast the the two experiences i had with you before i actually got to sit down to me with you was hating on me from you and i never came and I said fuck you to you and I had nothing bad ever to say but my first interactions with you was something you negative you said about me and what I was doing yeah so so do you think you don't leave with hate sometimes no I do yeah if you're asking me about the manosphere okay that's my answer but if you want to know like if I you know sometimes I come out the gate too hot and I know

that about myself and and it gets me in trouble a lot and I regret it a lot you know it's part of my personality that I'm, you know, something I'm aware of and something that I would like to temper, you know, because I think at the end of the day, I could get along with a lot of people. And as you, as a good example, is someone that I like. I think you're cool. I appreciate it. And I like spending time with you and the content we've created together is nice. And so sometimes I come out too hot and, and I suffer for that for the friends I could have had for the friends that I will lose as an example. And so I think sometimes I think that I sacrifice maybe like a person ability,

a social ability for like entertainment. Maybe I think it's more entertaining to come out like that. I could be wrong too. So here's the thing now. So to that point, sacrificing that ability for entertainability, I guess in a sense. I think there's a lot of what Tate did and a lot of what the, we'll say specifically the Manosphere side does because of the entertainability. Oh, I got it.

Sorry. You found it. No, you're good. Because a lot of the like, you know, the things that were said, and I even talked to, when I even talked to Tate, I think it was on the full cent pod about this. He said, yeah, I wouldn't do that again. I wouldn't say that again. I wouldn't go about it that way.

Right. Because in the beginning, I know it was about the entertainability. It was about the controversy. It was about the viral nature of it. So that's what I'm saying like both sides do the same thing. It's just from a different perspective, right? It's from a different angle. Like both sides use each other to also create content around to get benefit to like rally

their audience up. And so then what it's leading me to say is I don't think there's so much, so much hate. I do think there are things that he's said and things that he says that are like maybe it's too abrasive for specific people. But obviously, and we'll say women in general for for a lot of the stuff that he has said in the past and I don't think he continues to say certain things like that as much as he did then there's obviously a massive group of men that are engaged with this person right because he wouldn't have the the type of notoriety that he has if it wasn't if people weren't being like I like this

yeah right so it's it's not enough to say it's just all hate it's just all hateful because if it was just all hateful like I don't think there'd be anyone there involving saying like I appreciate this or I I think what he thinks or you know what I'm saying well I don't Yeah, I think his fans are probably Well here, let me play this clip for you, I found Yeah, yeah And then I'll answer that For the second reason I moved to Romania

Because in Eastern Europe, none of this garbage flies If you don't know the police and say he raped me back in 1988 Because we should have done something about a thing If you know the police to say, okay If you got physical evidence, all right, so CCTV proof Where to happen? Okay, let's go interview him right now And if it wasn't really right I was like, oh, we went to the club, we got drunk

She agreed to go back to my house We started having sex and then we carried on having sex And then we have sex and she didn't say anything wrong and then she texts me afterwards and I didn't text back and now she's saying I raped her the police is like okay she's an idiot by

but no not in the West in the West you can tell them that exact story you're still fucked well this is the same thing though people say why didn't do Romania it's the same concept wait or you're a rapist

I say no I'm a fucking rapist but I like the idea of being able to just say to do what I want I like being free and if you're a man living in England or Germany or America or any of the Western Road right now you've decided to live in a country

where any woman any ex any fucking bitch who works at greggs you bought pasty from at some point in the future can destroy your life this me too era bullshit has not protected women it's just destroyed the safety of men again i don't know enough about this whole situation everything that's been going on i mean obviously i hear the 30 day thing is it's serious it's making it more serious because what you're saying in that case is that if there was a 30 day detained then that means they have a reason there's evidence and a judge literally there's like a burden of proof with that that's pretty high yeah for a judge to to i got a question different question kind of about tate though

how long have you been doing youtube for like over 10 years how how long has he been on the internet tate i guess he's been on a while but he became popular like recently right yeah in the last like year yeah almost do you think like a just a little bit of you is a little jealous no no no i'm so No, your problem, but he was like, I'm not going to lie. Like, you know, like, Logan hated him for a minute. All these people hated him. And it's like, he blew up so quickly. I'm not jealous of vegetated.

Not even a little bit. No. Not as a person, just like, maybe this is the growth. It's not the kind of growth I want. He's like, he's like pure villainy. You know what I mean? But like we said earlier, is he though truthfully pure villain if like there's so many men who are like, oh, damn, this is refreshing.

Because I think they're- Just because he resonates with men, right? And so they see. in a different perspective right yes and i think what andrew does is what a lot of self-help people do is like you know there's 80% maybe of what he says that is like useful information yeah it's dime a dozen self-help shit though like you can find that on any bookshelf in any store about you know fixing your life right right but then there's like the 10 and so they they feel that because they like him and so they're more receptive to it from him because he's funny and he's charming he's funny he's funny yeah he's

super funny right and so you know he does he does i mean you've seen his tweets he does do stuff just because it's fucking funny i've seen him he does all this stick with aden ross and he's very funny yeah right so i i give him that and i think that's part of his bolt yeah but then there's like the 10% which is like um you know don't let your woman ever go out without you and uh you know um shit like that like i understand that people like him yeah like you but you they have blinders on i think to the 10 20 percent that um is really corrosive you know what i mean yeah but remember we said earlier about the entertainability right but yeah but he's a he's been he's actually like there's a difference right he has a fucking

compound of webcam girls like that's how he made his money yeah and he's in jail right now for human trafficking man okay i'm not saying they're i'm just saying there there is a there's a there You know what I mean? It's a little different. That defense doesn't, it only goes so far, right? Right, right. Right. Like, but in overall, I'm, I'm really actually interested to see where this goes.

Like, do you, what do you actually think is going to happen? Do you think he's going to get pinned with all this? It seems like he is. It seems like he is. Because if he was going to get off, the first, it happened recently and he walked out. And everyone's like, he's the man. He's good. You didn't do anything wrong.

But the fact that they came back. You don't think it was after all this, like, fucking the pizza box bullshit and the whole No, that has nothing to do with it Yeah, which obviously definitely But that's the thing Like that's the whole thing

The pizza box was funny And everyone was having a laugh with it But that's nothing to do With the Romanian police arrest him Yeah, because they've known Where he was the whole time Like he's on private jets Like you're gonna where the guy's at

The pizza box thing was Was kind of like wishful thinking You know It was kind of a fun little thing But it had nothing It had nothing to do with his arrest I actually think he's gonna go down for this Because of the 30 day thing

and because of the amount of accusers and the fact that his accomplices were arrested and shit I think he's gonna go down for it I think he is we'll see though I mean he's in jail for 30 days that's a serious thing

what happened with the what happened with the whole Greta lady the Greta girl talking like you saw all that stuff yeah the small dick thing yeah you know what's funny about that you know if I really interesting about that is the whole like

that whole side of of politics is the body positivity people. Yeah, there's the irony. So it's interesting when I, and I look at it because like, I just think it's all funny. I don't, it just it is what it is,

but I look at it, that whole side of politics that is like, yeah, Greta said he had a small dick. Those are also the same people who are like, don't chain people for their body. And that's really interesting to me. If you think of that concept, just for what it is.

Yeah, there's a little inconsistency there. So it's like, that's what I'm just like, but maybe, maybe it's like small, she said small dick energy. You walk, okay.

But you're still, yeah, you're just missing words. Yeah, well, you're making fun of dudes with small dicks. Exactly. Straight up. And so, um, like, what's up, man? What's up with that? Yeah, it's a little, there's a little inconsistency. You're right.

I won't, I won't, I should be able to say, I don't like fat bitches. You can't say that. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. You can't, but you can't say that. You can't. It's just like, yo, you're an asshole. Which, by the way.

Well, there's certain ways to put it nicer. No, of course. Than that. I like big girls. I'm not going to lie. Okay. There you go. Yeah, that's amazing.

But anyways, I want to get back to it, though. Why do you think there's that inconsistency? Like, because it's always like when it benefits us. I think it depends who it's about, right? Like, because Andrew, he's like this, you know, he fancies himself as the alpha male who fucks not every day and nonstop. And so if you're like, you have a small dick, I think people are going to let it slide. If someone, if someone was like, you know, all men with little dicks need to fucking die.

I think people would have a problem with that right But I think But I think And that's true I do believe that Men with small penises need to die There needs to be a full on penal genocide You're stupid

Holy shit No but I think people let shit slide When they don't like the person To be honest You know what I mean It is inconsistent though Because dudes with little dicks

You know They're out there And they're gonna be like You know Damn that sucks But let's be honest It already sucks you know they didn't need the reminder it's just being real like damn yeah this is funny

one of the worst things I think and I and I don't say this joking like you know the there's like a medical condition the micropenus yeah yeah that's really bro that like heart that's like so uh one of the worst things sad it's pretty that's like a yeah I don't know but I hear there's things like they're like doing like crazy I got hit up uh like two days ago to do a brand deal for like some penis enlargement thing that's like some trending medical procedure like a metal like a fucking thing oh god bless that's awesome i was like holy shit that's insane i think so they how does it work i have no idea i didn't someone just hit me up and was like hey would you do a brand deal like did you say yes no i do that you would why not i'll put

i'll put you breast augmentation is is everyone loves that i'm sure they'd pay good money because it's like a very thing why why did you decide not to do the just because it's like what I'm going to send in the podcast and be like get your dick bigger yes what's wrong with that I don't know I don't know yeah you yeah but that's like you yeah it doesn't work what's the difference well no they're talking about like implanting something in your in like something that it's a surgery that's always there to not like in your dick harder because the blood flow's better it's different I think it's awesome I mean it's a little scary right to put something in your dick yeah scary is fun but I'll connect you for that though yeah hook me up

Let's get him going. Let's get our big dick boys out there. Yeah. And hey, if we're feeling so bad about the little dick energy, let's do something about it. 2023. Fix it. Yeah. Okay, let's change the opposite a little bit.

Like personal life. Would you have any more kids? So I have two sons. One is three. He's three and a half. And then the other one's about to turn one. And I, we're thinking about having more kids. Yeah.

We're thinking about having a daughter. which is interesting you know you can pick the gender what yeah it's fucking crazy IVF when you do that you can decide the gender how are they deciding that at like the sperm level they pick a they so the IVF is crazy the technology these days so they take a bunch of eggs from the woman and they can analyze the eggs for quality so they they can assign them like a through F quality a being like how old are you I'm 37 okay yeah and they can be like yeah so this egg is super high quality and the chance of you having a miscarriage is like very low what the fuck and then you can also say they take the i think the egg is only one chromosome it's

like only x so then they take the sperm that has like the x y or whatever makes a girl and they can put that in there and you can decide the girl if you want a girl or boy holy shit and what's crazy they're really on like bleeding edge kind of IVF technology that's not public yet but you can decide like eye color height what the fuck hair color straight hair curly hair yeah no that's like a gta fucking it's crazy and it's actually like a big ethical kind of problem coming on where you're they're calling it designer babies what the fuck and you sounds like another fucking problem and yeah well when um when rich people are having like superhuman babies i mean you want to talk about wealth inequality also like the neural link stuff like when that's like comes out

like it's not going to be super readily available right i mean i'm assuming it's like going to be very expensive i don't know what it's meant to do you know what you mean the neuro link it's see what it seems like at least from the information i've seen is like you could like pull up information like this like from your fucking it's just meant to make you somewhere like it's not like to cure illnesses no i think it's also built like built into that like to other things i was reading about where it's supposed to identify like problems that are in your body like like right as they become problems like Like a, let's say like instead of you getting your blood work done every three months to see if you have like a chance of a tumor, like a tumor marker test, like it's like doing this like in real time, I guess or some shit, like which is insane.

I think it's awesome, but in general, but like, yeah, it's going to be a huge problem as that technology develops. And if rich people are again having access to like having like photographic memory all the sudden, you just like that is such an insane advantage. to you and your kids that like the it just makes this this way the divide is going to be nuts yeah between like elite super humans and fucking like it's almost like it's gonna make a new race of people

you could yeah fucking crazy could I mean I do believe that evolution human evolution takes place in technology yeah well I think it's gonna get to the point where it's like man and machine are just becoming one which is scary kind of I'm I like theoretically I think it's awesome Yeah

You know If it's like Settled and good You know what I mean I think you just lose But you kind of start to lose What it is to like Really be a human

Because then you're not Now it's just a different type of thing I think that's a That's a moral issue For another day Yeah Once everyone's walking around With like

Because like what does it mean To be human I mean I don't know You get a chip Like at what point You stop being human You have photographic memory Some humans have photographic memory

Yeah That's just awesome Now we all get access to that Um, maybe, um, it can be like, you're guaranteed not to get like Alzheimer's or MS or anything. That's awesome. Yeah. But people already do that. What?

And then you, you can do like, count, like insane calculations. Like, there's people who can do that already. Like, there's people who have like rare forms of like autism, uh, savant autism. Actually, there's people who aren't even autistic that can do that. It's very rare. But you can be like, what's one million, 10 hundred thousand, blah, blah, blah, blah, times whatever. And they can, they just know it. So there's already people that can do that, right?

Yeah. What if we can all have that? Like imagine how, like, humanity, how much we can do, you know, when everyone has access to these incredible processing powers. You know what I mean? But do you think it just gets, then it just, I don't know, it almost makes it not special anymore. It just becomes like a norm.

And then everything is like this like baseline. Unless you don't have it, then you're really fucked. Yeah. Then you're fucking, you're trying to play catch up forever. Yeah, you, you're fucked if you don't have that. It's an interesting thing. I think about that a lot. Obviously, like, I don't even know if we'll be alive when the stuff gets to this, like, crazy level.

But I just think about it, my kids, my kids, kids. And I really want fucking kids just in general, man, to be honest. You want to have kids? So bad, yeah. Also, I'm actually curious because, like, you work so closely with your girl, your wife, obviously. Do you ever find it hard to have just, like, normal intimate time? because you're just constantly like working together do you ever be like oh you just want to fucking take time away that's a good question because like yeah like our lives are so intertwined

with work yeah um because that sounds like that feels like a lot because it's also it's monetary it's like yeah it's intimate it's you because then you guys want to be progressive i'm assuming like grow this and if someone wants to grow a little harder grow a little more faster and something's like you know it's it's weird with with my wife we've always been like super close with everything we do um for us it works you know yeah it seems it sounds like on paper really like kind of dangerous or dicey that convoluted so many things intermingled but for us it it works actually recently um because she's working on our clothing company teddy fresh and now i'm more on the podcast so there has been a little bit of a forking which has i guess been good so there's

There's a little bit of a separation now more than we've had in the past. Yeah. Where we're kind of have two different jobs, like just like creatively differently. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's worked for us, um, surprisingly. You ever have issues or it's just like, you're just like easy fix them?

Um, and obviously I'm not trying to pry fucking, I don't need crazy detail. She does complain that my cock is too big. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. No, not really, not really. We, we, we have a pretty good, um, we've, the, We fight about stupid shit, you know, like, what for dinner? Yeah.

Shit like that. She's a skinny legend and I'm a fat fucking, you can imagine the food friction we have. Yeah. That's probably our biggest point. Are you, are you like really actively trying to get in better shape? Like, do you think that you'll like look different in two years? Like, do you think you'll, like, do you have a vision of how you want to look or is it just? I just want to lose.

I just want to be like at a healthy weight. You know what is that to you? I don't want to get jacked or anything. Like what I've been doing is an hour on the treadmill I've been doing that for like six months Sure you don't want to get jacked It's kind of dope I'd be awesome

I just I generally don't think that I have the I don't think I can put myself to the task I see because it's a lot of fucking work Yeah And I don't think I could do that I think my max is an hour on the treadmill every day Which is good I just want to be like Normal again

Yeah I got you Like I got so fucking fat that like a lot of it's better since i've lost like 20 30 pounds but like it was hard for me to trim my fucking toenails fuck you know what i mean and like yeah that's real hard to put on your socks you have to like hold your breath you get a little lightheaded leaning down and shit yeah like there's there's like you know it sucks being fat like it sucks like it's fucking yeah there's a lot of and also i don't want to die i've got two boys maybe a third one yeah and i want to live a long time for them and be and to share my life

with them. There's a lot of reasons for me that I want to lose weight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Does he look like working out? She has back pain, so she started doing like with a trainer once a week and she's been pretty good and consistent with that. So that's going

I mean, she has, she's not really super physical before that, but she's working on it as well. And you guys do like, you do what, one podcast with her? Yeah. And then you do three other podcasts yeah fucking crazy four a week and then i have a fifth one for members yeah because i saw some clips of someone clip that i saw something on uh this was on ticot once and you were talking about

because i saw it was about me that's why i was being tagged in it about was it was it was it was a yeah no it wasn't yeah no you're you're you're actually really nice to me or you're not really like no i got no problem you don't mean we're we're dogs yeah so there was it was a it was a it was a clip of you talking about my reaction to the whole like antidepressant thing and like my oh yeah our fans got a little touchy about that but i was trying i was trying to smooth it over i saw that yeah yeah i was trying to spend it yeah and i guess i just want to say that here i didn't mean to say it was like you know it's not it can't be a good thing i the whole thing i was saying was like try to exhaust all options and and you said you don't think most people just jump into it and

do it and i get it i understand that i was just saying like you know someone doesn't try anything else and it's like how do you know that that wouldn't work like for example if I made a soup and I put everything in, I don't know exactly what's making it taste that way unless I put this in and then try to put this in and then try to. So I was just talking about that idea of like try these things first. And then, you know, obviously there's you can't just from doing those things. It just changes, you know, everyone's chemistry exactly the same. It's not fair to say that that like this thing could help if it needed to. Yeah, I agree. But you were, you were on that clip, on that clip, you were like, you know, I think it was like this. So you were being very, very kind

about it. Okay. That's good. But so you do a members thing and it's like, Is it, is a different platform? No, I just, there's like a lot of tools for members now on YouTube. It's like, you know, on Twitch you can subscribe. Yeah. So they have like the same thing going on YouTube now for a live. And so we have a pretty vibrant like. So it's a paywall live.

Yeah. Oh shit. Yeah. So we have members who pay like $5 a month like on Twitch and I do a live episode for them once a week on Tuesday. So you're doing five. yeah podcast a week holy awesome man been my dream to do that

yeah I want to and I'm not gonna lie after I did your pod and I saw your setup and your team all dope really really nice people I was like fuck this is what I want to do like I want to I want to involve it into that like I know obviously we need we probably need a bigger space for this kind of stuff but this is nice though you guys got a nice space here

I like it yeah but I really like what you've done like when I looked at it and then I was so looking at your channel I was like holy shit you're crushing it thanks bro like you are really crushing it like there's no denying that yeah um it's fucking impressive the one thing that you know like i'll say our audience it's kind of crazy i never expected it but like it's predominant it's predominantly uh woman yeah that's it's 60% women 40% men so it's it's not crazy it's almost like a 50 50 but before like when

if you go back to the era of everyone's like i used to be a fan of you like probably a lot the people watching was it men we were 90% men yeah and so we lost a lot of our of our the male viewers yeah and i think that sucks you know because clearly what we're doing and or at least the perception of what we're doing is repelling men right yeah or a lot of them who used to be fans and so i do think it's good content for for men i think there's just a perception thing going on where yeah it's definitely I don't know people just like

I mean it's also because if we you know if we go take it back to what we were talking about earlier but the other genre that kind of like it seems like there's two sides is before they even get to you they've already been learned by the other side that fuck these people right that's a good point

so you're going to run into that like that abrasion where they're not even going to know which is like goes back to the other stuff about someone saying something about someone and it's not being true and then it just being like you got to deal with that label no matter what Mm-hmm. So it's just kind of like people just being able to be re-exposed to you in a way that's a little

more like calm or candor. This is why I like I really like doing this conversation with you. And I and I and I, because I don't think like I've looked at more of your stuff. It's not just like it's not just hateful bullshit content. No. He's actually a lot of positivity. It's just the stuff that like bubbles up right. Yeah.

That like people that don't like us will put out there. Yeah. Yeah. No, we we we do. In our episodes are like three, four hours and we put a lot of effort into just, you know, know being funny and being entertaining and just having fun but but you know i want to ask you how do you so how do you create that much content like are you writing down ideas in the night are you brainstorming like what are you doing like is there a flow that you have because i'm really interested in like

getting into like having multiple shows obviously like the show themselves can be based off like this is this interview process where i learn about you talk about you trending stuff anything in revolving that i think would be interested to hear your point of view and then obviously if i had another show that It was like me and someone interviewing a girl or interviewing another guy could have a different dynamic. But your shows, are you like planning segments? Because like that's the thing I noticed when I came to your show is like you had all these things sorted.

And it's like, I'm assuming it's not just you. No, not at all. Yeah. Yeah. Well, so yeah, we organize it as much as possible when I sit down to do a show because we actually do interviews less now. Yeah. And it's all about like the content and the segments and stuff.

So I would like to plan a show as much as we possibly can with whatever little time we have. So I know exactly what I'm going to talk about, what sketches, what segments we're going to be doing. And the reason I'm able to make so much content is because we have this amazing crew that works with me. So everyone has a different job, right, on the group. Some people are helping organize my show document, putting together the research. Like, I'll think everybody is collaborating on the show doc throughout the week. but if I have an idea for a segment or a current event topic I want to talk about so I'll throw it to them and they'll put it together for me they'll write it up they'll

put it together for me if we have a segment idea we've got people that are going like pro who work in props who are going to put it together they're going to go get all the shit we need they're going to build the set whatever and so the way it works is basically we have I think like 10 or we have like 12 people now full time on the podcast yeah so everyone's got a different job everyone works super hard and so at that basically the end of the day when the document's ready for the next day i go over it i move stuff around how i want it i give them notes and stuff and then we just do that every day fuck dude it's you so my question to you because obviously business owner i have raw gear have the gyms i have the podcast everything i do

um how do you find the right people and have you gone through a bunch of people because that's hard so hard it's like people who like because everyone says i'm good at this Or I can do this, then you give it a shot, and then they don't do it. Like our producer now, who's like the king, we call him the wizard, Dan. We've been working together for five years, and we were trying for so long to find a right person. And even in the beginning, there was, it was not great. Like we almost parted ways a few times in the beginning. With Dan.

Yeah, with Dan. And so it's been very hard. And I've had a lot of trouble getting staff that I like, throughout my career and I've always had a hard time passing stuff off or delegating tasks. Yeah. Honestly, I wish I had good advice because it was really, really hard for me. I think at a certain point, you've got to give relationships the time they deserve to see if it's going to work out because a lot of times they start working with someone,

you'll be like, this fucking sucks. It's not working. They're not meeting your expectations. And so I think one thing I've learned is to give it its due time, which I think is probably like at least three, six months to see, you know, to work together and see if it's going to gel. And I think one thing that was really important for me is finding people who are familiar with what I do. They got to kind of understand the culture and who I am. And so actually we hired a lot of fans who ended up being full-time employees for us, which seems weird and

counterintuitive. No, it makes sense. The guy who's my closest, my brand manager was helping me along the way like literally worked for me for like the last eight years was a fan and he met me and he even told me he was like I'm going to work for you and I was like that's what's up and then yeah and he became like a like a go for just go get this go get that and then then he was an assistant and then he was my assistant for time and then he helped me with like a bunch of other projects where he eventually turned into the brand manager for for raw gear and he's like he's crushing but he's just like that's it's hard to find that find those types of people right because like a few of my guys wrote me like my guy Ian who's our switcher and he's in charge of um writing our bits super funny

he wrote me an email like five years ago that was like super well put together talking about how he wanted a job and um and it was just it was really well put together well written i reached out to him because we needed someone and that's how we started working together so i feel like a lot of it is keeping your eyes open and seeing people that have good potential to yeah and not just that you like that you like them that you know that they have like good work ethic and they care and they want to do like I think the what's more important than anything is like the desire that that you want to work that you're like dependable and you want to work more than anything you know what I mean yeah especially in this space man yeah it's it's definitely a tough thing it's like a constant learning

curve I know for me and I think for most people who do this um a different question kind of in regards of the same thing as far as social media what would you say to like someone who's watched who enjoys your content who makes content like to be able to start something like that you have obviously it takes time to get to that point but to speak to anyone because like a lot one of the most popular things i think people nowadays is like i want to be a content creator i want to have my podcast or whatever right what would you give advice to someone who's just starting out because i get asked that question all the time and i'm just curious on your response so the first two or three years i did it for lovely game pure passion just wanting to express myself creatively wanting to make

comedy with no expectations of success or making money. My advice to people that want to get in this field is like go in first of all with zero expectations. You got to do it because you have something inside of you that you want to get out. Like creatively you want to outlet you maybe just like making videos. I don't know but you can't go on with the expectation that you're going to succeed at all. Yeah. You got to have like I had a day job. I was working full time in marketing when I was doing it and so going with no expectations you got to go in because you love it and you got to fucking be persistent as shit you got to keep fucking doing it for years because you have to be that motivated you have to want it that bad to succeed yeah because it's so

competitive now to be successful in the internet and like you said more and more people want to do it you have it's like almost like advice on something like that is kind of pointless because if you have the drive to do it you're going to do it and if you don't you don't like there's almost like no advice that you can really give anybody on that you either have it or you don't in terms of the drive to fucking work without being paid for two or three years just because you love it yeah you got to really want to fucking do it it's that simple i think that's the thing that people get they they want to do things because it looks cool from the outside because someone else is doing it but it's like is it really in your heart to want to do it for yourself and if it's not

you're not going to succeed it especially because when you don't make money and you spend time doing it you don't make money and you're looking around like where the fuck's the money or you have expectations like yeah you got it exactly and so um I think you'll find that most people who are successful creators online like YouTubers whatever Twitch they were in it fucking and they grinded and worked and worked and worked and worked before anything happened for them yeah because you just got you just have to have like a something inside you that just wants to do it so at the end of uh but by the way i want to say before we wrap this up we're going to do three audience questions but i want to say i really appreciate you coming in and showing up it was funny because

before you came um a couple weeks ago i did the pot with hasan and i said yeah i'm going to have ethan come on and he's like oh good luck i don't think that's going to happen yeah he scared me because then and then you flaked and i was like fuck no way has all was right but you were sick i was super sick yeah i really wanted to do it right yeah but i got fucking so sick he did scare me though Yeah, because when he said that, I was like, no, he's going to come. He said he's coming. Yeah, good luck. The thing is, like, I like doing other people's shows, but usually, because I'm on

break right now, I don't have any shows until the 16th. Yeah. So I have time now. But, like, usually it's like, I like doing other people's shows and I want to, but it's so fucking hard to justify. I get it. When you're, like, working all day and then you have another show tomorrow, and then, like, it's so hard to find a place to put that in.

You five shows is insane, bro. Yeah. that's like different are there who else does that like like uh i don't think anybody two bears one k like the tom no they have different show different people do the different shows okay the thing is my big inspiration i'm very much a child of like howard stern and what he does yeah and that motherfucker was i listened to him growing up yeah me too i still listen to him he's on the radio for like four hours every weekday and there's something and he's live too right And there's something magical about, like, having that presence in someone's life, being that dependable that I thought was kind of like a magicness that was lost when the radio died, top radio died.

And so I had this goal going in is that I wanted to bring that energy to the podcasting space. And it's awesome that we've actually been able to do that. Yeah, you cry. It's insane actually. Thanks, bro. By the way, too, before we get into last questions. So me and Steve are also really excited to come on your podcast. We're going to plan that.

It's probably some time this month or like when you get back to your shows. Yes. We were talking about it. It's going to be funny. But yeah, so at the end of every episode, we do three audience questions where if you guys, Natalie, do you have a mic over there or no? I have a question for the audience. Yeah, go ahead. Do you all think that Steve jerked off his dog?

Y'all, he talked about this. Because like, I'm not the only one. Now, I'm out here. I'm out here. And I'm saying Steve didn't jerk off his dog I believe him I believe you It was a bit I did a pull the pool was not in Steve's favor

Yeah it was but because I thought it was funny Because you're like I can't believe Ethan believes this shit But then you go down the comments and everyone's like Yo Steve definitely jerked off his dog So my question to you guys is did Steve jerk off his dog No man But I'm not gonna lie the other day Steve was tweeting some dumb shit about me And I was about to tweet like Steve jerked on his dog guy live

Fuck yeah dude I was about to Straight up my dude You should have done it but uh but uh yeah let's get into these audience questions he didn't jerk off his dog no he didn't yeah for the record despite the poll with 50 000 votes despite the poll yeah we don't 90% said yes anyways yeah that's a that's they can comment below let us know but give us uh give us a question okay so the first question says hey brad and guest i recently gone through the hardest breakup of my life we lived together been together for years and talked about kids marriage the whole nine

yards because we broke up I have to find a new place to live work and new car so I guess my question to you is how do you cope with things when it seems like nothing is ever going your way um and if you guys have any advice that sucks yeah that sucks yeah I'm like curious he's like the girls was his car was his girls it sounded like and he probably lived with his girls maybe they shared a car yeah so like his whole life is gone overnight yeah um I mean man this is this is I don't I don't get the classic answer, but it's like, I don't know exactly how you ended up there, how you got there. But, you know, the same way you get through anything is, it's obviously, number one, it's not going to be easy. It's not supposed to be easy, right?

Because you're going through something that's a trying time. But I think it's just a matter of going through it and learning. And this is too, I think really important to say because a lot of people get into situations in their life where they're like, fuck, this is so terrible. And my circumstances are so bad. and they kind of just like drag that out as they're trying to get out of it without understanding how they got there you know what I'm saying like like not enough people I think in those moments where it's like really difficult because normally when you're in those moments and it's super difficult it's much easier to like not look inwards and just look outwards and

be like you want to be the victim of your circumstance and you want to feel bad for yourself all the time 100%. So it's much easier to take that stance and I think the minute you start to take the non-victim stance in this situation you're going to learn the most about yourself which the goal should be obviously this is terrible but you don't want to recreate that in your life moving forward so you start to learn okay how did I get myself here and not just how did you know my relationship to someone else put me here like how did I find myself here and it's going to be a really hard time in your life but at the same time it's it's you know more than likely going to be one of the most like eye-opening like self-learning experiences that you're probably going to go

through if you allow it to be so with that being said like everything else in life you just have to keep moving through it there's no like right answer there's no right way there's no like right timeline for you to be like hey this is exactly right and this is how you deal with it and it's how you go through it you just have to keep going like we were talking early about becoming like a creator or becoming anything or doing anything in your life that's difficult this being one of them is like you just have to keep moving through it and trying to learn the most from it so that you can grow in your life so that you don't continue to be in those same circumstance sometimes life gets so fucking hard that people don't see a way out yeah you're just like in

a black hole and you're like I'm never gonna get out of this and it gets real dark man and uh some people get fucking so depressed that um they only see one way out you know what I mean for sure and I think that I it's important to speak to that state of mind and that place is that you know there's always you know you look at the horizon and maybe there's like a hill you know you can't see past the horizon but beyond the horizon there's always going to be brighter and better days yeah and the question is like are you going to are you going to wait it out you know what I mean are you just going to wait because basically you just got to wait for the storm to pass and there's going to be days that are worth living there's going to be the best days you

ever had in your life that are out there waiting for you. Yeah. You just have to decide that it's worth the way. Yeah. It's tough sometimes. It's just it's it's like you say we're just talking about speaking to hope right now. Like you just genuinely you have to keep going. I think that's the most important thing because I mean you don't you yeah I guess you have another choice but ultimately I don't know just I could speak from the position of like dealing with that or dealing with suicide having in my life is just it's not it's not the thing if we're talking about this like people giving up or quitting is uh it's never the best choice i mean there's like you said and i think most people do believe even even in the darkest moments like there is something else there is that next phase that next

phase of your life and like i said all these moments like all these things that are truly hard in life are things that make you the person that you're like supposed to become and they allow you to grow and they allow you to teach people that come into your life family members friends kids whatever it may be like to be able to go through similar things because the truth is in this in this at its core we all go through things that aren't easy in our lives and we all have moments of like you know I don't want to call it necessarily depression but we all have moments of like really low moments where we feel like shit and we feel like it's never going to end like this shitty feeling and it's it's human it's normal we all go through it to different degrees for different reasons and

you going through it and going through the most difficult things is allowing you to to shed light for other people, right? The reason why someone would even ask me this question because I've talked about all my shit, I share it, I try and share it as much as I can. And the only reason why I can sit here in this position that I'm in today is partly because of my circumstances.

That at one time, I felt like I'm never gonna get out of this feeling of why do I feel like this? Why am I like the idea of not being enough? All these things related to myself and my self-worth. And it felt like at one point it was never gonna leave me. And now I'm in a position where, I'm helping other people feel like they're going to be able to get out of that. So it's like I can speak from literal experience that there was a benefit that it took me 20

years to realize, but it's in my life now. That's it, right? So it's, that's the key. It's like, yeah, like you don't, you don't want to take anything away. Like, you have, you have all these great times and great days ahead of you. Just, you don't want to take that away from yourself. You want to live on and experience those. But give us the next one.

So the next one says, what's a guilty pleasure song that you listen to occasionally or even at the gym? Oh shit. Oh shit. Guilty pleasure song. What's that fucking song? It's like I, what?

No, okay. This is actually one of my all-time favorite songs. Wait, how's it go? Gravity, John Mayer? Put it on. Oh, John Mayer. That's pretty good. Gravity, John Mayor, easily one of my favorite songs.

I'll play it for you after, but it's incredible. Would you have one? Because I know you're on a challenge. I have a lot, bro. There's like, but like the, okay, embarrassing,

like that you're embarrassed to listen to? The most embarrassing one. I'm trying, I'm digging down for the most embarrassing. To be fair, I don't think I'm embarrassed to listen to the gravity. Yeah, you seem very proud of that.

I love this song. It's amazing. Oh, an embarrassing one? Yeah. Like, is there like a girly song you listen to that you actually like vibe with or something? Yes.

No, so there's some like, there are some like love like, like, R&B songs. Like, shouldn't be listening to in the gym, but I, like, really like them, you know? But, like, nothing, like, embarrassing.

One thing that embarrassed me, my wife always makes fun of me. You remember third eye blind? It's like so emo. I still fucking go back and listen to the album, their self-title album. And it's so emo and it's so corny and I fucking love it. And Eeluk, she refuses to listen to it. She's like, this shit sucks, dude. Oh, I love that shit, though.

That's good. That's good. That's good. Solid. Give us the next one. I love singing out in John I want love too It's just about being gay

I want love But it's impossible Do you sing when you're on the treadmill? Oh I fucking love that sign Fuck Are you guys ready for the next question? Yeah I hit it So they said before I asked the question

I just want to say I have mad respect for you Not being afraid to put your insecurities out there And talking about your anxiety Was there a time where you were so close on quitting or losing hope on something you were reaching for. That's a good question. I mean, often, man. I mean, like even right now, I'm opening a new gym in Encino.

So I'm moving my gym to a bigger location on Havenhurst and Ventura down there in Encino. And, you know, the rent's like fucking the rent. Is it crazy? $36,000 a month just for the rent. And that's very scary. It's scary as fuck, right? So I'm like, okay, I got to make sure this works, but I felt the same way about my first location seven years ago, was worried about the rent. I was worried about the equipment, all the money that I was spending, all the everything that I was putting into it.

I was like, what if this doesn't work? I'm so afraid. Yeah. So the reason why I'm saying it this way is like I constantly, even as I grow and progress in my life, I still have moments where I'm like worried that like, am I making the right choice? Like, am I going to lose it all? Am I going to be a failure? Like, I still think about that stuff. But at the same time, like I can't let that kind of thought control.

my mind otherwise like I really do believe the more of the stuff that you think about is the more of the stuff that you you produce in your life like if I'm waking up and I'm thinking about how much I hate this or I hate that like I'm going to bring that energy with me into the rest of my life into my relationships into my friendships and I'm really been trying to like on a really conscious level to change that kind of narrative for myself so to answer your question yeah there's been tons of times where I felt like damn like do even even making content like do I still enjoy this anymore do I still want to do this but it's more about finding ways around it or finding ways to like continue to motivate yourself to like to realize that it's worth it because

I got to I just kind of remind myself at least at this point in my life that like I said earlier I have such a cool ability now at this point to be able to sit like the fact that anyone just sits and listens to me talk is kind of fucking insane to me it's mind blowing right it's at the highest level of like wow I can make a living just having conversations sharing my thoughts is honestly the biggest blessing in the world right because at one point you know you I was fucking sleeping in my car figuring out where I was going to like get my next meal and it's like I can I can have moments where I'm like damn I'm afraid of this but I'm also just I remind myself okay but when moments when I had far far far less I still had the idea that no I can do this so I just kind of keep going

and I think that's just all it comes down to like yeah I have moments like that I think we all do and I think it's natural I think it's normal part of it is to to continue to push you to drive you to make you keep your eyes up so that you're watching where you're going since you're not going the wrong way um and also understand that you're not always going the right way but it's just a matter of like fucking trying sometimes the right way is going backwards yeah sometimes taking time time and you got to go back like you're not supposed to always do this like and that's the thing that i think we're uh we're kind of taught a little bit or we have been over the last few years on like social media like it's like you have to keep doing this

and it's not it's also just not sustainable it's not realistic Right. It's like everything comes in waves and I think allowing yourself to like flow with it is is going to make you a thousand times more happy, but also be able to if I guess I'll say this. If you're always focused on having this like upward trend and like you're constantly looking at where you want to go and that that's important, but you miss a lot of stuff along the way and you might miss certain opportunities or certain ways to like even enhance that that that journey of growth by just like just constantly feeling like I need to be able to do this. And when I. I do that I'm not I'm not good enough but allowing yourself to like have moments of down is completely normal because you learn moments you learn in those moments so I don't know it's about risk right like yeah some people don't want to take risks in life and that I totally understand that you know but there's some people who you're not going to get to the next level you got you know you've got to take risk you can take calculated risk you don't have to right like some people are content and I think that's fucking awesome if you can just go to work have your family and

that's in your content I think that's fucking awesome yeah it's all about how you feel inside right are you not happy with what you have do you want more you're gonna have to take risks

yeah listen to that yeah that's what it comes out I almost get I mean I almost quit when I was doing my old channel I almost quit completely completely yeah because it was just

it was so hard to make this every I made one video a week and it was like, I put a ton of work into it every week and there was like a lot of expectations on what I would put out from the audience and so I was really hard on myself and I would put out a video that wasn't as good

and I would be devastated when people were like, this one's not as good like the feeling was so intense and it was just not sustainable like the highs and lows were mental of being like, I'm devastated they fucking hate me or

and then you post a banger and it's like let's fuck it. party you're living up I'm the man and the week it was just I couldn't live my life I couldn't live my life and so I actually

that's when I pivoted to the podcast because and I found a new format that for me was sustainable and something that I was emotionally way more stable doing yeah and felt fulfilled doing creatively and so

you know sometimes that that was a risk for me right but of course yeah but the alternative was just quitting because they asked yeah i was i was about to quit i was close yeah like i said like i said it's like if you're just constantly only looking in that one direction you don't really know the other opportunities obviously you found some other ones that were beneficial to you and i've changed like the whole dynamic of what you do entirely i think yeah yeah for me it's better i mean for me it's better i mean for me it's better i mean your whole thing your whole like i said earlier your setup is like your consistency like the fact that you

you could do five shows is fucking fucking impressive i never thought i'd be able to do it but i'm happy i'm super proud of what we've done there but you know um i used to make my shitty little videos when i had like i don't know 100 subscribers or some shit oh early early early yeah early early like 10 years yeah and i would post them to little forums to get people's feedback and shit and people sometimes they just fucking hate me so bad you know what i mean they would fucking hate me and i sometimes I would just be like, God damn, I'm this, I'm fucking so bad. Hold on, but that motherfucker that Hila was talking about would never get hate. I know, yeah, for sure.

That's funny. No, but, man, I was close to quitting a few times when people were just like, why didn't you? Because I, I couldn't. Couldn't like for yourself. Yeah, I couldn't. I was like, fuck. You know what I mean?

But I went back to it because I had to. Yeah, that's how I felt when I was in that moment where I was, uh, in that moment where I like living in my car for time because like I knew that I could have went home I could have lived at home I didn't have to sleep in my car but going home to me was like I'm quitting right I'm I'm foregoing this thing that I think I really want to do like to pursue this and it wasn't even social media at the time it was just being able to sustain myself away from my home a place that I didn't want to necessarily continue to like you know because you know when you live in a small town you like continue to you just see like everyone does the same thing and they just stay in that life

yeah and I just knew I didn't want that so me going back home was like going to fall back into that cycle that like it wasn't even social media because this wasn't even a Instagram wasn't even out yet like it wasn't even a thing for me yet like YouTube was like I don't know barely people were barely making content on there but I just felt like damn if I drive home with all my shit and I'm like let me try again next year that like that would have you wouldn't I wouldn't I would have been in my mind I would have been a failure yeah so I just like fuck it I'm just going to keep trying this shit and I think it's just sometimes what it takes just to be honest I'll say I'm much happier with the podcast thing I'm doing now I do miss when

everyone liked me on the internet those are nice there was like a good solid three years where everybody loved me on the internet that was awesome but but in terms of like my personal life I mean I'm I'm very content with I love my job I'm happy going waking up and going to work every morning seriously which is crazy I think if you just got jacked everyone would love you again if I got jacked if you got if you were If I got the same thing, everyone would be like. You think so? Yeah, dude.

Even if you said the same shit, they'd be like, buddy's Jack though. It's true because I think like you gym guys, you all just, you really respect the muscles. You do. It's the thing. And I get it. Yeah. I should, man. Dude, you'd be, it would change the game.

I got to get Jacked. Seriously, because I know him because they shit. Jacked Ethan. That'd be fucking sick. Now, what do we mean jacked? Like liver king or like skinny or like, how? How big, do I, like, sick? Do I need a six-back?

No, no, just like, I'd say, like, you just like decent size arms and shoulders. If you had a shirt on, they'd be like, this guy works out. Okay, okay, okay. Like, Jack, like that. You don't got to be a fucking bodybuilder. That's crazy. That'd be sick, though, bro.

That'd be crazy. Should I get on steroids? Probably not. Should I do it now or after? After what? After I lose weight. Oh. When she was the best time to get on steroids for me?

Oh, man, that's a, that's a tough. You'd have to ask your doctor on that one, you got your blood work done. There's a lot of stuff that revolving around that. You think Kaiser Permanente gives out anabolic steroids? No. No, fuck. No, I think like, unless you're like a burn victim and they had it or some weird shit. But no, so what I'm saying is like if, if you went to a clinic, you can get all your blood work done.

They tell you what's going on. But, but like to get the steroids that like bodybuilders use to gay muscle, that's different. That's street shit, right? That's, yeah, yeah, that's different. That's the same thing that it'll gives you like testosterone, right? Normally most HRT clinics, it's a sippinate, which would be the version of it, the ester, the style of it, right? I guess the type of testosterone. And then there's like all this other shit that HRT clinic would not prescribe.

You definitely can't go to like a fucking TRT clinic and get a bunch of... You can't get that. All that extra shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's more like, you gotta have your like gym, professional gym, bro. How's that work? Is there always a guy at the gym who hooks people up? I don't know.

It just seems like it probably depends on what. gym and they'd be like they'd be like that guy you like you know that's the guy who knows that's the guy who knows about it yeah that was interesting that's probably a good business though if you get like the good you would probably just run down to like tijuana get to go to a pharmacy I mean this like I'm really curious I'm not gonna do it I mean really like technically you could order powders from overseas and make it really yeah so you so the powder's not illegal no it's all illegal oh so yeah to get powder from like India or some shit Yeah, like the Philippines or something.

Oh, fuck. It's all illegal, though. Okay, okay. It's all controlled substance. It's what I'm talking about. So how, okay, interesting. I see. So technically it is like, this is all legal.

Yeah, very legal. Got it. Yeah, like the stuff that's, even the stuff that we get, like you can get from a TRT clinic is, you can't just get it. I wonder what classification of drug is it? I think it's scheduled three. I'm not sure about to Google that. That's not a bad one, right?

One is the bad one. Yeah, this is definitely. They take you to jail if they find you with like I think if you had intent to sell That's so crazy bro I don't think I think all drugs should be legal I'm 100% serious Because drug use is not it's not a criminal it's also like it's not a criminal issue it's like People use drugs for schedule three so that that's the least illegal one right or yeah Most punished I think so yeah what is like cocaine is one and heroin is one and all that Yeah no it's yeah it's a late least one okay

Yeah, I mean, it's the, but the drug thing, too, like, if you just, if you legalize just all of them, though, but it's like some drugs make people a little crazy, you know? Yeah, so like PCP. My theory is that people, people who turn to like really extreme drugs have mental health issues, right? And making the drugs legal actually doesn't prevent anyone from doing it. It just makes acquiring them more dangerous. And so if you make all drugs legal, all of them, you're going to have. have safe spaces for people to do the drugs, to get clean drugs, right? And also you can have human services, public services there for people who want to get clean, right? Where you give you,

you give them an actual helping hand from our society saying, so you mean like if you want to get clean, we're here. We have these programs for you. It'd be like a person. You go up to that guy with the drugs or that guy with the help. You'd be like you you there's probably um there's actually places like this in Netherlands. It's like a. drug free or a safe drug zone really and so they give out clean needles you can buy clean drugs you know you can test it to make sure it's good well that would fix the whole fentanyl problem here yeah dude that thing's fucking insane and and fentanyl is like you know it's it's funny because it's made by pharmaceutical fucking companies here in america yeah and and and like they're probably acquiring it

in Mexico or you know somewhere like that and these fucking pharmaceutical companies they know they're there's the amount that they sell is way more than the amount that people are theoretically using that's why the sackler family is getting sued into bankruptcy who because they made the oxy cotton because they were selling so much fucking oxy that they saw they're like there's no way that this makes sense right with the amount they're selling these people trafficking it to Mexico and then they sell back to Americans on the black market shit like that. But if you have a safe place for people to go use drugs, they use it safely and they can get help when they want it. Because a lot of deep drug users, they don't want

to be drug addicts, right? Like it's not a good thing to be if you're living on the street addicted to heroin and shit. Like if it wasn't stigmatized, like if you didn't feel like a piece of shit fucking shit staying on humanity, you know what I mean? Like if you went there and there was actually people there who were like, I want to, I, I, here's another path for you. Yeah, it's interesting. Me and Steve, we did a podcast. We were talking about the difference between like someone who's, you know, like L.A. Someone takes like cocaine. It's like okayed by like you and your friends. Not that it's okay and it's like a good thing to go do. But, but like versus like the stigma around like taking crack cocaine. Like it wouldn't be as normal as if my buddy was like,

you want to go smoke crack cocaine. Well, that's racism. How? Because crack is fucking has the stigma stigmatism of like poor black people drug it was literally created by the fucking FBI and put in black neighborhoods to create a crack epidemic it's literally just cocaine it's basically almost exactly cocaine but it both so i don't know this because i've never cocaine is like oh cool white color drug but okay so now i ask you crack is like you're fucking go to jail and you're degenerate but my question my question is because i've i've never done crack cocaine obviously i've done cocaine once in my life is it the same once you have yeah is it the same thing it's made with cocaine but is it the same high so i i didn't i don't think i really got high

on the crack on the crack i just took a little hit from the crack bro that's insane because i was with my home my homies were smoking crack they were like that's insane and so i was like fuck it you know i was in an experimental mood how old were you this is hilarious like 18 or 19 i only smoked it once and I didn't feel anything. I don't think I hit it hard. But are you telling me that crack is it affects you the same way like cocaine? I think fucks you up more.

Okay. So that's what I'm saying. Like I don't think it's like, you know, people take a bump and they're like, but I'm not sure about that. I'm not sure. Yeah.

But, but it's the same drug, right? So you, but I don't think. And what's crazy is like cocaine, you're not going to do a hard time for cocaine. For crack, you will.

That's where the racism comes in. But I feel like it does something different. Let's find out. Actually, I'm curious. Right? What is it? Just someone have someone someone so right here it says cocaine is often abused drug derived from the the cocoa plant it's found in both powder and rock form while the powdered form

of cocaine is simply referred to as cocaine or coke the rock form is often referred to as crack or crack cocaine so it's the same thing just smoking it or snorting it one is solid and the other one is just grounded down my question is it matter it's the same fucking yeah but if i smoke crack cocaine what do I feel like differently probably similar can you Google like what is crack high so we get some crack in here was crack high versus coke hot yeah that's what I want to look for them right now I'll smoke some crack with you yeah let's make some mistakes you're fucking crazy yo this podcast is about to be interesting holy shit dude it really did fuck I'm pro look recreational drugs rule oh man I'm pro psychedelics I think a huge fan I think like

responsible drug use is frankly an important part of becoming a well-rounded human. It's facts, man. Actually, it's, it's, drug use is so much part of our human identity going back thousands and thousands of years. Yeah, it was, we just people were treating it differently

because it wasn't as like synthesized. You know what I'm saying? Like, because it's all, it's all from plants. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but fucking the plant, I've been more fucked up on weed than acid. I've been more out of my mind on weed

than any drug I've ever taken. Well, that's probably because you took some crazy, ass marijuana though because that's the shit out here that they're like taking crazy bong rips but like I'm telling you dude I've been fucked zone like mentally fucking gone on weed and I've done a lot of drugs

yeah I'm a fan acid I haven't done acid yet but mushrooms mushrooms is good I love psychedelics man big big fan did we figure out how much it what it feels like it's the same thing so like if no way so you smoke crack and you're like yo I'm up yeah it's it says the same thing

It says that there's no pharmacological differences Between powder cocaine and crack cocaine See that that's fucking This is chemically they're nearly identical And hence the product's similar I had no idea That's crazy right The in fort the way that crack is treated

Is straight up systemically racist Broly shit dude I didn't know that It's crazy I thought it was just like I thought it was a completely different feel It's like the same shit It's just one is for like cool fucking Businessmen And one is for like

Poor black people That's what they think about it right I mean right right Yeah the only difference is it says Crack cocaine tends to be cheaper faster acting As the high lasts for a shorter period time Opposing to the powder snorting it Injecting it or swallowing it is different

So the high is a little longer And it doesn't happen as fast and it's more expensive Thank you for that Yeah Yeah it's more expensive so it's seen as more like a So maybe next podcast we do We're just fucking taking drugs Let's go, bro.

Let's smoke some crack. I don't know about the crack. To be honest, I don't like cocaine. I don't understand that drug. Maybe mushrooms. Mushrooms I like. Yeah, you take some mushrooms. But anyways, I appreciate you, man.

How long has it been? How long is this pod? Fuck, yeah, let's go. That's what I, I'm used to the marathon shit. You crush this shit. I'm used to it. You're good at Boz for sure. Thanks, bro.

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go on yeah thank you so much for coming man thanks bro i i i'm a we're dogs yeah for sure we're dogs it's gonna be good i'm excited to bridge with uh steve bro you're gonna love him he's fucking crazy i'm gonna get like a i'm just gonna do a segment do it you got it you got it i'll bring like a toy dog and just see how many r pms he can get on it bro you know what i mean he's gonna love it you got to do it but yeah we're out of here i thank you guys subscribe to the channel post notifications all that good stuff iTunes Spotify thank you guys we're out