RAWTALK - H3H3 Ends Beef w/ STEINY & Calls Out SNEAKO...

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

On this weeks episode of RAW TALK, Ethan Klein apologizes to Steiny & talks Politics, Gambling, Olympics & much more! Sponsored by: BetterHelp Use code "RAWTALK" at betterhelp.com/RAWTALK & get on your way to being your best self!

He is actually just a gross, terrible human being. Also, teabagged. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but he's like mega alpha, and he's been teabagged by a man, balls in his mouth, basically, while his girl was getting... You didn't know, you don't know that story?

I know about him getting tea bag. Yeah, basically, he said he was going down on his girl while a dude was fucking her from the back. He said those words. Oh, no, sorry, no, I got out wrong. He was fucking his girl as a dude was under him. His balls were right on a dude's face. So he was teabagging another man.

oh we're starting is this it yeah fuck all right stony i got it no i'm just you scared this shit out of him bro stony came in a little like nervous but i i i just want i think it'd be nice to just meet and talk i'm doing like my outreach yeah i like that you know I'm very impressed with you, bro. You are? Yeah. So this is how he starts. It's a lot.

You're easier on him. I fuck with your fit. Oh, thank you. You look like you lost a fuck ton of weight. I did. You have a nice presi on. Thank you, bro. I didn't think you'd have that.

I took you for an Apple Watch guy. My wife bought it for me for my birthday. Oh, that was very sweet of her. Yeah. It's very nice piece. I love it. Thank you. Yeah.

So maybe we could be boys. Well, you know, we're going to play poker together. Yeah, also, which I didn't know you played cards. I'm a, yeah. I'm an experienced poker player. Cards Against Humanity guy, not poker. Nope, I can play that too. So you gamble?

I'm not like a gambler per se, but I definitely have spent a lot of time playing poker. He's favored to beat me. By who? So they do odds, like, who's going to last longer? Who does the odds? Just some gambling site. Oh, shit. You can bet on it?

Yes. And they have, okay, that's interesting. And they have you favored over me, but then they have Tanna. two to one over you I'm gonna win you think so yeah what's your experience I'm being cocky

because I'm just being silly but actually we're bringing our crew there and we're gonna shoot it like a podcast episode so I'm looking forward to having fun with it my wife is playing too is it gonna be live yeah it'll be live

it's on an hour delay but are you gonna shoot it live so we're figured out a way to shoot it on an hour delay so it broadcast at the same time as theirs because they don't want people to cheat I didn't agree to you're doing your shit on there well bro

You actually did. I guess I fucking did. Fine print, brother. Wait, so have you played before? Yeah, I've spent a lot of time. I've won tournaments. I've played in tournaments. Like WSOP tournaments?

Nothing like that, but I used to play a lot of online poker in college. And I think the biggest tournament I won was like 2,000 people. What did that pay? It was a really low buy-in. It was like $5 buy-in. So, yeah, it was like $10. Do you talk about gambling much or not much? Just something you do on the time?

No, I'm not interested in like gambling. I love poker, though. For some reason, I don't think of poker so much as gambling as, like, a game of skill. I need to get into it. Because it's an ego thing, too. Why? Because, like, it's not all about poker's a skilled game, but there's a lot of ego involved, too. Because if you take somebody's money, which, like, I would love to take all your money.

I'd love to take all his money. So it's like, there's an ego part of it. Is that part of what allures you? Is it the ego aspect? Or like... The competitive aspect. Okay. Yeah.

Not the ego aspect. But like... Which kind of similar... What I'm saying is, though, is like, if you beat... Like, I played Bryce Hall before. Yeah. And he beat me. And he, like, was high on life for a few days about it.

Yeah. Because there is some part of it where you want to be like, it's a skill game. Because you're going to take their money. Yeah, it's a skill game. It's a skill game. It's like beating someone in chess, bro. Like, it's a flex, kind of. It is.

There's a lot more... There is a lot of luck. I'd say it's like 40% luck, 60% skill. So, I mean, you can lose to horrible players. and it happens all the time. Yeah, 100%. But it's not as just like black and white as like banker player type shit

or red and black on a roulette. No, no, no, no. You're not playing against the house, bro. You're playing against players. That's why it's cool. It's a really complex game. There's a lot of, uh, I was reading books about it and shit. There's like a lot of theory.

Have you seen rounders? Yeah. Watch rounders and then you'll play poker. After round, I watched that a while ago. It's the best movie of all time. It was just before it's time. What makes someone good at that?

So there's a lot of like on the, fly math you have to do. Yeah. There's a certain amount of like cards of each suit. There's four suits. And so you need to be able to calculate roughly the odds of like you have, let's say you have two hearts. You need to like know the odds.

If there's two hearts on the flop, you need five. And so say I've got like, let's say a 15% chance of flopping a heart and you have to calculate it against like the size of the pot and do like pot odds. It's all math nerds now, bro. I get it. But what's the relationship to? what someone else is doing because you know they always talk about poker face what's the relationship to that like well how can you if someone's bluffing and they have a tell

i think the poker he's kind of shaking right now well no he kind of has a tick i wonder if that helps you no i have i have Tourette so i'm kind of twitchy all the time oh i'm sorry i didn't know that no you're good you're all good don't worry do you or is this like a no he's dead serious that's why he's doing that okay i'm saying maybe that helps you i am also kind of like ADHD apparently so i'm very fidgety dude can i ask you something we don't have to keep this in there. You can ask me anything you want and let's keep it. Did you are you on the OZ? No. I asked him out of the way here. I respect the fuck out of you. Thanks bro. So much so but the thing is like I haven't seen you guys that you swear that you swear though yeah

fuck that's crazy very impressive the thing is like people without that shit I'm pro ozempic though I think it's an awesome drug and like I think it's awesome that there's like what is essentially seems like a miracle drug that's helping people lose weight And, and, uh, so I'm very pro-Azempic, like I, I'm, what I want to elaborate on that is I'm, there's two ways, I'm pro-O-Zempic as well, but there's people that try and sell like, a motivational, like, yo, I lost all this weight and kind of hide it. And I don't think that's fair. It's also like a BBOC. Because there's people, yeah, it's like, bro, like, yo, you have, that's a fake ass, but you can tell. And then sell a program. Yeah. So the thing is, um, I agree.

There's people like, there's a doctor who was trying to call me out for taking Osempic, which was really weird. But at any rate, he was saying, does Ethan owe it to his audience to say he's on Zempick? No, but people like Oprah and, I forget the other girl's name, who apparently their whole brand is like health. And so he's like, they're lying about it, which is not fair to their audience. That's what I'm saying. There is a category of people that certainly owe it to be honest about it for sure. That's my only take on it.

But there are some negatives to Zempic too, though, for sure. Like muscle wasting. I think it shrinks your stomach a little bit so it probably fucks up even When you're off it It'll fuck with your eating habits It makes it harder to maintain the weight yeah But it also it's a little bit muscle wasting

Like there are some definite side effects That's certainly something probably most people aren't worried about You're like muscle wasting bro No no but it's not even Worse than that sense Such a gym bro douche No no no no

When I saw him I was like damn You're fucking huge bro You guys have met multiple times right Yeah we've done a show Are you gonna send it after this or what? We need your little, your soundboard. That's proprietary, bro. Yeah, what does it say?

Like, yeah, let's send it. Yeah, something like that. We have a whole bunch of you guys. Bro, they have a ton. Dude, you've ripped me multiple times. Yeah. You've ripped me like fucking five times, bro. We got it.

I've never said one, one, I've never said one negative thing. So here's what I'll say about that. Well, which time? Because you ripped me a lot. Which is all good, bro. So here's the thing. Like, I'm kind of like a messy, petty bitch. So I've ripped a lot of people.

So I don't specifically remember. but I am in a phase of life where I like am in the mood I think it's good to like build bridges and talk to people who you can connect with I don't think so is there one specifically you recall uh you ripped me for shoals okay bad which is was a crazy take on your part because I know you didn't watch the whole thing and you were going with the majority I I personally think can I so I have a response to that um you're right I agree At the time, I feel like you guys are very, for my audience, very hateable. Just because, like, it's just the antithesis of, like, everything that, like, our community is.

And that's not necessarily a fair assessment. I think being looking at NELC fairly, you guys are obviously representing, like, a more bro-y culture. But, like, that's not necessarily bad. And so I think my criticism of you guys really started around, like, COVID, around, like, being, opening the gym and like having fucking like riots outside of martin's fucking gym but like now that that stuff's passed by and like you know i i appreciate that everyone was kind of doing their best to navigate through those really crazy times but i i've i've become less judgmental i think in that regard and in some cases i was too harsh on people for sure but it was a crazy time yeah

you were harsh as fuck on me on that so so i'm gonna go what did he say wait i'm gonna get to that I was just watching the shit and I was like because I was already going through it because I was so new to the game at that point and obviously when you're the new guy

and you have Shull's fucking massive comedian people are going to always side with the bigger person probably sure yeah because they want to do it but like that's also another problem with influencers in general

like they want to their audience to agree with the majority so that's how I felt yeah and I'm building towards an apology okay I am I continue

so So, like, yeah, I think I had some bias and prejudice against the Nelk boys. Other than the COVID, I think you guys did some weird, like, Rubet stuff. I don't even know if you were part of the gang by then that seemed kind of scamming. But, like, that's all been long ago. And creators, I mean, what creator isn't running a scam these days? Pound it, bro. That's a crazy, non-a-polloskey.

No, I'm not. I didn't apologize yet. I didn't apologize yet. That was funny. That's just a joke. That was funny. By the way, I don't have a. rebutt deal no i know i was just kidding i was just trying to incriminate knuck should i don't take it any

rubet if you're out there right now and their bag makes sense not i'm kidding but uh so at any rate i think that i was just riffing off that and being like who the fuck is this tiny guy and trying to be funny mostly sure but i think what changed is i've learned a lot about schultz and i fucking hate i think he's actually an asshole and also a giant douche what makes you think that I've seen the way he talks to his guests. He's been in things with, like, a few guests where he just comes off as such a fucking asshole. And, I mean, on the top of my head, I can't list them. I could certainly recall them if I thought about it for a minute.

But when I go back and watch yours, Whitney Cummings. That one was just so, shingulous maybe. And then the one where he was trying to pressure academics to take the fucking. I didn't see that one. See, that's my whole thing. It was really like. So anyway, going back on watching that interaction, I see, I feel like I can see it more clearly that, like, he's just, he's being such a colossal douche to you. Yeah.

And totally unwarranted. I don't know why he had to, so I'm on your side and I apologize, especially if you're going through it. You see what's happening right now? I do hate to make people feel worse when they're in a bad spot. And like, you didn't really deserve, you didn't do anything wrong, you know, you're just sitting there. Can I ask you this? Sure. I think that a lot of people are starting to say that online

and are noticing what you're just noticing I am not connected with that at all I have no idea what people are saying about Steining and you're going with no I mean what they're saying about Scholes Oh I don't know what people say about Schultz either Well who gives a fuck if people are hating Schultz I mean then why doesn't that necessarily mean that he's a giant douche Yeah no I was just curious if like this is something you're actually

Yeah, with the trend or this is a genuine No it's a genuine feeling I feel like that one is more that's a sourced informed opinion that I don't like him my only beef with Sholes is that I went on his podcast almost three years ago now and he's like yeah when I come to L.A.,

I'll come to yours and he hasn't. That's the kind of guy he is. He's a big time guy like all of a sudden he won't shut the fuck up about selling Madison Square Garden and like he acts like he's the biggest fucking coming

to comedy and like he'll do your show or you'll do his show and then a year later he's like I'm too big for Bradley he's that kind of guy Yeah, I will tell you, I watched his, we had three hours notice of doing shows that day. Oh, shit.

So, and we were doing Happy Dad launches. So we were driving liquor store to liquor store, entertaining fans, getting fucked up. And I'm sitting in the car watching, he just had a special, I think, on Netflix. And it was hilarious. So I was so excited. And I remember I just asked him one question that I think he took as, and I think this is a genuine problem that we have sometimes. times. I did a video with Steve and we

went to like the studio. There are a few rappers there and I think there is that fear that like are these guys fucking with me because historically there's pranks involved like they can't tell what's genuine and what's not. So I think that could have been going through his head a little bit. So he's like yo are these guys fuck it with me or nine? What did you ask

him that set him off? I don't remember. Dude I asked him because like I've gone to the comedy store 100 times. I've watched this shit. I watch all this clips on TikTok like I see how they work with, like, crowd work. And I asked him if he ever genuinely had offended, like, a heckler. Or, like, because, you know, you always see this stuff, and you can't tell if it's real or not sometimes.

Yeah, I can understand why he didn't think that was an amazing question. Yeah, but I mean, it's not like, no, but it's not, I'm not trying to get him in trouble when I'm like, yo, have you ever, like, actually, because he will get edgy. Like, if you watch some of his stuff. But I think the obvious answer is yes, obviously. If people are heckling. So then why is it a big deal to just be like, yeah, I have.

No, you're right. He didn't, that's the thing. So in my experience of interviewing people, there's like two different types of interviewees. There's like generous interviewers who will like sit there and participate in the interview and like help it move along smoothly, won't make it awkward, we'll like try to step in on like dead air quiet moments to help. And then there's people who just sit there and they won't fucking help you at all. Like very very ungenerous hosts. And and I feel like in that moment he was being very. ungenerous as a co-host for the show and just kind of well and what I will say on that is

looking back I don't regret any of that shit and I will tell you when he he did a bunch of shows in Abu Dhabi I don't know if he saw that but he asked like a crowd things like that crowd things that I was like wow and their reaction they were laughing and a million years I never thought what was he asking I can't remember but there's a certain clip where I'm like holy shit like he said something pretty edgy to like an entire like muslim-based crowd and they laughed and like they were having fun with it which i was kind of shocked by that is yeah that's so that's impressive so that's kind of why i was like i'd seen that before and that's looking back i'm like well dude that question kind of makes sense but that's where i think well and and by the way

because hecklers are obviously by by their nature going to be upset because if you're an asshole kind of if you're heckler i think maybe like what's the like have you ever like i'd be interested it has it ever gone beyond heckling? Like, have people sought you after the show or, like, how mad do people actually get at you? Yeah. Because, you know, but anyway, it doesn't matter. I was like my fucking 10th podcast.

You can ask, exactly. You can ask bad questions. It's not, it's not like the end of the world. You have got to learn somehow. Yeah. I fucking sucked at podcasting for the first, like, five years. So you're saying I was bad for a while? I haven't seen any.

I mean, certainly wasn't a great question. But that's okay. But that's okay. Dude, you can't go out 10 for 10. I mean, I didn't have any. I didn't have a lot of fucking support or help on there. They forgot to have me on there. They didn't have me on that one.

Steve didn't sit, I think, three words. And Kyle was trying to wonder what the fuck is going on right now. Bro, that's true. I mean, listen, that was a, you stepped in. I took a shot. Yeah. Yeah. I took a shot, bro.

You can't. You did nothing wrong. You did nothing wrong, bro. Dude, you, it was either I'd stay silent and we all miss. So what are we going to do about it? We're going to fuck him up? You know where he lives? I've thought about doing.

I'm just kidding. No, I've thought about like a couple of funny things. things we could do, but uh, I mean, I'm kind of over it at this point. He gives a fuck. Yeah, you can't hold it. He got in a beef with somebody. He's got a beef with a lot of people. Wait, hold on. Somebody was having a text. Oh, it was Jeff Wittick. Did you see their conflict? Bro, you don't think, Jeff, Jeff, which I've, I've seen you've done some stuff. Jeff's a buddy of mine. He texted me. We're tight. Immediately. Yeah, me too. Now I see. So, I see your side of things. I felt like he was so gross and condescending. It's just such a

colossal asshole. To Jeff? First of all, the way he came after Jeff really rubbed me wrong. And then his reason ultimately was that like Jeff said some mildly insulting thing about him like previously. And he was holding a grudge for, I don't know. And this was on some paywall shit, right? Like he put it on a paywall when he talked about. No, it was leaked by Jeff. But the episode where he was talking about Jeff was behind a payroll.

Oh, I don't know. Oh, it was? I don't know. I think that that was like the clip to, the clip of him hating on Jeff for talking about Doric was a marketing move to get you. to the Patreon. Oh, you think so? I'm always surprised. Which in and of itself is interesting.

Which is a fucking... I mean, it's a good marketing plan. I'm not going to deny that. I mean, yeah, I guess so. You got Jeff to respond. It went pretty viral. But, um... I thought it was so fucking classless.

How he's like, ooh, stop crying about fucking almost dying. And it's like, well, not really. I mean, Jeff was like... The reason I think it's classless is because I think that Jeff and fucking him talk off camera frequently. Yeah.

Because I did Jeff's Barbershop and him and Mike were like FaceTiming at Shull's wall. He was doing a show so he wasn't answering. They're like, yeah,

that's our boy. Mm-hmm. So I think that if you're a genuine person in this space, like I text Brad, you know, if I wanted to post something

like the other day, I say, yo, bro, I'm going to throw this up. You cool with it. Yeah. So it's always cool to hit up your boy first. So that that route

of doing it is different. Also, he went after like the one thing that would like really fuck like the one thing he shouldn't have gone after if he wanted to talk shit on care you can't really talk shit about jeff or anything else you guys are fucking i mean now i'm gonna get all the gay shit but uh you want to fuck jeff you're not the only one dude yeah it's okay that's okay now no this is not where okay actually you know what that's it's it you can go to jeff for a lot

of things he just chose that one no you want to fuck jeff you're not the only one get in line i mean dude he's like we went on a run to my name like the guys a stud not sure there was multiple times on this run on the boardwalk where chicks would seriously turning heads and it wasn't because of me bro yeah I know you just look down in his abs you're like wait a sec well he's shirt off fucking like it's like out of a movie I wouldn't run with him again that's brave I wouldn't fucking run with him shirtless

hell no I'm not doing that ever again I was embarrassing that's like because I also make him look even way better yeah that's the equivalent of you getting in the lion's den with Schultz you took a jog with Jeff Witt and shirtless and you're brave man yeah I appreciate that you're proud of you dude yeah we're proud of genuinely all right guys quick and orange for the podcast this pod is sponsored by better help i've talked about this but it is never not a important thing to talk about mental health a lot of us obviously get input from people around us people in our circle people who a lot of the times are somewhat biased on our situations or on what's happening with us because of their relationship to us but better help is a platform it allows you to speak directly to someone about what's going on in your life uh that's not going to have biases it's super simple to use you don't need to drive to go see you know if they're somewhere you can do it from the comfort of your own home. I strongly recommend if you've ever thought about talking or looking to talk to someone or trying to get advice or just, again,

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come in my crib now he's going to come and move to l a little bit where's he live florida oh he'll come for a few days we'll stay at one of our houses i thought you all don't you all have to be together to do all the shit you guys dude we come together we travel we do where do the other guys live Miami also so Kyle Saleem

so you're in L.A. I say in L.A. Oh, why don't you move to Miami? It just didn't make sense for me personally like with what I was trying to do with my own podcast I do IG videos and it just everyone's kind of in L.A. I see

and also I lived in Miami for two years and I learned really quickly that from March to September everyone leaves Miami because it's 100 fucking 15 degrees no one is it's a ghost town there

interesting and everyone comes here and the like off season you have athletes rappers whatever they all come here so for me it just made more sense so I did like a short term lease here cool yeah nice yeah but uh what I was gonna say is

did that slow you down at all because Steve's a fucking savage when it comes me down how what do you mean slow down sorry I mean, he jerked off his dog. I mean, that was iconic, that's, so he, he's the cool dad. Yeah, so you commented on that.

That's the funniest shit. And then he said some crazy shit. I don't remember what he said, but I wasn't offended by it. And, like, I was totally cool to talk to him about it. Did you guys ever talk about it? A little bit through Bradley. Yeah. No, we talked in DMs, actually, on Twitter that we were, we were trying to set up to meet.

He wanted to go do a podcast. He wanted to go do his podcast. But it never worked out for some reason. But, like, I honestly, like, I feel this. same way about Steve I don't think you know he's a degenerate obviously but like not in a bad way yeah that is hilarious you know like he's a good how that makes any sense I was pretty accurate degenerate and not in a bad way it makes sense no it doesn't you know you're degenerate it's a bad he's a he's a happy he's a he's a good

degenerate but that but that's not a reason I'm good hard to degenerate yeah there we and I like and there's nothing wrong with with like his his lifestyle is pretty nuts but like there's nothing wrong with what he does not immoral again it just goes back to like the same stuff that i kind of had like these preconceived i was i was a knelt racist bro i know you were just because of that i haven't seen because of the reasons i've seen to go at steve but and me obviously but i never saw did you ever go at kyle not really i don't think so i had a really not as easy to go after because he's kind of was more reserved right he's reserved yeah he's smart he's not going to give you that i went after him once like a long time ago before like knelt

was really nilk you got he had done a um a pizza delivery prank okay it was a long fucking fucking time ago um where they were just like a prank channel but we were just goofing on that video but that was like 10 years ago so i don't even know if that even counts so when you do when you do go kind of at these people how much of it is for the content when like are you actually pissed off. I'm very rarely actually pissed off, I would say. I think I look more pissed than I am. I think the people that watch the show kind of get what I do.

But certainly if I was on the receiving end of some of the stuff I say about people, I would, I mean, I wouldn't take that kindly. You know what I mean? Yeah. And that's one of the things that I don't like that's a byproduct of what I do is that it's hard to go out. What? Like people are going to get you or something? No, like, no, I'm not afraid I'm going to get beat up, but like, it's just like, there's, it's always awkward everywhere I go.

Yeah, bro, you're not getting excited from the shit. If I go to a war show, if I go to fucking house parties, if I go to anywhere, you know, like, YouTube events, it's like going to be awkward. Yeah, do I get anxious? No, I can only, I don't get anxious and I don't really even care that much about it. Sometimes I feel bad about it, like, you know, as a, but I think I just. I have some level of, like, autism with Tourette's, with ADHD, which is not good. I'm being sued by a billionaire right now for defamation. But, and that's been happening for three years.

So it's not, I'm not like a bombshell or anything. Oh, shit, though. So like, it's obviously a famous billionaire. He's the, oh, I remember this. Yeah, he's a giant fucking loser. Wait, why do I not know? Why do I know the name and I can't put a place on? So he was the former president of relativity?

Is he the guy that blacked out like 40 times? He was in court and shit? No, no, no. I don't know who that was, but no. He was the founder and, I think, the CEO of Relativity Media, which was like a massive production company that he utterly, abjectly bankrupted in a move of sheer business incompetence

that can only be described as the highest level of incompetent loserness imaginable. And then he invested in Triller, which you can... Oh, okay, yeah, it's a Triller guy. So it's not a home, okay. Is Triller still exist? It's out? I haven't seen anything about it.

Somehow they're still alive, but I can't imagine for much longer. And so, again, a good commentary on his business acuments is that he went from bankrupting relativity media to investing in Triller. Got it. So, yeah, he's suing me anyway for some dumb shit, but it's fine. It's normal. But in lawsuits of defamation, it's like, do you have to prove that the things that you're saying aren't true, right?

Defamation lawsuits are pretty tricky, especially in California. where we have like extremely strong um what's called anti slap laws um and these are like really generous laws to the people being sued for defamation to prevent people like ryan cavna and rich powerful people from using lawsuits to like basically block free speech and silence people silence people through free speech so it gives you a relatively easy way to get rid of defamation lawsuits and also to recoup lawyer costs. So that's kind of what we're going. We're going through the anti-SLAP process right now.

You know, it's, I'm going to, I don't have much more to say on that, but there is one thing I was thinking about. Go ahead. We can change. Dude, like, even last night, I couldn't even sleep. You want to talk more about Jeff? No, because I think about this podcast, and I'm just like, is there any part of you? Because I've seen, there's a lot of creators out there that just go at people.

and sometimes I agree sometimes I don't but I think that it's kind of like a talentless form of way of getting engagement yeah do you ever think like yo fuck my shit's all negative

like who do you speak highly of Jeff bro you've seen him sure of this besides besides Jeff he's hot as shit yeah okay we got Jeff Jeff you're good bro um

yeah there's like you know man I'll speak highly of this guy I have lots of friends of the show I have lots of people that I respect that I admire in the space but obviously you know I'm definitely like

I can't hide the fact that I'm like a drama YouTuber you know what I mean it is what it is the thing is people are oh he's changed I mean I got famous doing these commentary videos on YouTube I don't know if you guys watched those

yeah I remember but like I haven't seen this will you tell me I just I was I like reaction videos I used to make like really big commentary channels I would make one video or commentary videos i'd make a video a week for a few years and it was big it's my main channel h straight shrew production so if you want to see the stuff it's there still but i was doing the

same thing back then i was i was just being like a caddy bitch and but i was more like organized and thoughtful about it because it was filmed and edited but now it's just live it is what you know and like obviously i make mistakes sometimes and i don't like that you know sometimes you know what's your question no just like uh is it easy engagement yeah definitely like you see like the negative shit just goes crazy but then it's just like it sucks that it is that way sometimes like but you gotta throw shade at somebody start a beef to fucking get some views get some clicks when it's like i'd rather see someone really be funny or creative and really just like that route it's gonna be harder me too i wish i me too yeah if i could make my whole well i okay so i was

my career, I think, being creative and original and creating, but it was like art creatively and artistically, it was a lot more fulfilling but it wasn't for me sustainable. Yeah. So, I tried not to go, I tried to be like real

about my criticisms of people in general. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, on one hand but yeah, I mean, I have, listen, I have a ton of respect for people that like just get out there and make creative works and don't like talk shit or get in the way. Like, Like, that's a good way to be, and I'm fully aware of that. And, you know, I respect it.

I mean, I have respect for you, too, because I watched, I didn't, I felt like I watched the whole thing, but I didn't, but I saw every single clip of you with fresh and fit. Oh, yeah. Which is that on your platform? Yeah, it was on our show, on our podcast show. And the clips that I saw, it seemed like you were very, very prepared. Yes. Very, very prepared.

Yes. And they were scrambling a little bit. And I don't know. You know, I got love. Like, I've seen these guys, I've met these guys, I lived in Miami, Myron and Fresh, seen them off camera, they're good people. But it seemed like that Fresh Candle, did that come out right after your pod?

It was live. No, but you remember when he had, like, his situation? Oh, with the girl, Daisy? Yeah, that, I don't come out after the pot or before. I don't remember. I think it came out right after. Yeah, it came out right after, I think. I'll give you props because it's like, that's not easy.

if you're going to talk shit about someone at least you give them the opportunity to like dude that's one of my favorite things when I have like go in on someone it's one of my favorite things is to bring them on the show and talk about it like I feel like I can stand on my shit and I do prepare I've done a lot of those debates

and I've invited like a ton of these alpha dudes that I shit on and a lot of them just bitch out it's like dude who's the they spend all day calling me a beta but it's like who's bitching out from fucking trying to back up what about Sneco didn't he recently call you out to do some debate Sneco is like so I would debate I genuinely don't like Sneco the thing is that that obviously right that's obviously I mean he's he's like a fucking I mean how can I like him he's like a Holocaust denying Nazi he's like actually like a Nazi like I'm not even like being silly when I say that like he is a Holocaust denying conspiracy theorists that makes it tough for me too because I am Jewish and like Steinberger yeah is that your full name Steinberg but you didn't even know it that's funny I totally guess that by the way off off camera.

So it's just like, that's what I'm telling you. I don't know what's genuine, what's not. I would love to talk to Sneiko. In his specific, I did a lot of like Holocaust debating with fresh and fit. And it was pretty disturbing just how like down the conspiracy hole they are with specifically with Jewish people. You think that's real though? Or is that for like we were talking about engagement? Let's be real.

Well, I'll tell you why. Because there's a lot more Muslims out there than there are Jews. Listen, if it's fake, I don't give a fuck. He's still saying it. He's still denying the Holocaust online. I haven't seen him do that. Oh, throw, ask Myron how many people died in the Holocaust? Call him right now and ask him.

Call him right now and ask him. Let's make this as positive as possible. All right, well, at any way, I would think about debating Sneiko. The only thing with him is that he's such a piece of shit that I don't even know if the conversation's worth having. But I do think that it would be I genuinely I'm thinking about it

I think it could be good He's got to do it You got to do it Because he He mentioned to me that he had said that he wanted to And then you didn't want to do it So what happened was Like recently

Yeah something happened where I was calling him out on the show And he I think we had both said like Oh let's debate And then I think there was just Not a lot of enthusiasm for about it on my team and in the audience just because like he is actually just a gross

terrible human being also tea bagged not that there's anything wrong with that but he's like's mega alpha and he's been teabagged by a man balls in his mouth basically while his girl was getting you didn't know you don't know that story i know about but i don't know about him getting tea yeah basically he said he was going down on his girl while a dude was fucking her from the back and he said those words or no sorry no i got wrong he was fucking his girl as a dude was under him. His balls were right on a dude's face. So he was teabagging another man. I don't think Sneco ever. That might be

AI. I can't never picture Sneco. Let me pull it up. I can't picture Sneco saying that. No, I cannot. You can you pull this? That's got to be A. Hold on. Wait, hold on. You guys are going to love this. Because I know that he's talked about that before, but not. Sneco, even though you hate my people, bro, I try and fight for you, but

fuck. You shouldn't, bro. Why you got to prop up people that want you your whole... I'll tell you because ever since I started in this game, he respected me and he fucked with me. So I appreciate. I appreciate that.

You know what I'm saying? The thing is with these guys like Myron Sneakle, I can see that like they can be loyal and good friends, right? And so these are admirable qualities and people that's respectable. And so if they've been good and loyal to you,

I totally understand wanting to ride for them. But ultimately, I don't honestly, I don't know where you see it to you. I don't even think Sneakos on Instagram and that's probably the only app I ever used. Is there a way I can show you something? Oh, you can.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, do that one. That one, yeah. Do you know the time? Do you know the times? Oh, my God, you're going to love this. I can go and like once in a while, use a condom and like, you know, one-is-hands, whatever, and then she can go on dates

because she doesn't have sex with that. She just likes to be taken out and negotiate that. How long ago is this? I don't know. Not that long ago, a few years. What year? 2021. Yeah, a few years.

So we went to a couple different orgies. Oh, word. Is this guy rubbing lotion on his legs? Why, what? This gets so good. Trust me. No, no. You are, you are around mecky, niggas?

No, no, what? What? Yes. Are you around naked, man? Yeah. Yeah. His friends are so shocked by this. I didn't go to the top floor.

I didn't go to the top floor. That was 70 for Saturday. Did we go to the top floor? John, and we go to the top floor. John, and me and him stay down. We and him did not go to the top floor. No, I said you've been there before, though. I've never been to the top floor.

Anyway, when you went up there, you said something to the nature of whatever happens, happens. Yeah, so we go in there with the mentality that whatever happens inside, that party and just stays at the party. Yeah. So I saw her, I've seen her for other men. And it's just like that was.

Yeah, I saw like, literally right. Now, if you call off, pause for a minute? Now, now, I'm not people, I'm not one to judge people's sexual, private life, but this is a guy who preaches alpha-ness and calls women sluts and, like, thinks that, like, he believes in, like, chastity and all this shit. And here, keep going, it gets worse. But you don't believe people can change, though, no. I do believe, I do believe people can change, yeah. Because I don't think he's the same. But is he, do you think he's

someone that is like, I know he's not doing this shit no more. I don't believe so. No, and I think he's talked openly about the fact that, like, this wasn't the best choice. If he's talked openly about this, then that's different. He has. You sure? You're sure about that. Yeah, you're sure about this. Let's keep watching it. Let's watching it it's good I wanted to break this down like this was imagine seeing the girl you love

like get fucked yeah I do the way he said that I couldn't fuck wait wait how long ago was this Justin

three years 21 21 are there rules to like how big the nigga they can be uh it has to be because if it's 10 inches

it's not happening That's not fair It's not fair to you You should be keeping that shit to yourself That's crazy You can't pick and choose Yeah you can't be You should even be fucking random women with 10

What should you be doing with 10? You should be keeping that shit to yourself What? Take it to the circus I don't know So if you should enjoy it Like we're just enjoying it too much That's the thing like

I guess She's knowing pretty lot Like, I don't know, like, how much you... I just, I didn't expect you... You did it go loud? Huh? So, all right, so we want to... Oh, oh, okay, hold on two different occasions.

The first time, crazy. The first time, as soon as I saw, like, three pumps in, I just got to go off. Fuck. Then he went back. Okay, yo, can you pause it? Then he went back. That was the first time. I don't know.

This whole thing is, like, now I'm mind-blown. You didn't know about this? No. He's talked about this. I don't pay that. I don't know. What did he say about it? I'm curious.

I don't know. I think he was essentially saying like it wasn't something that looking back that he would ever do again, that it was a good idea and all of that. I'd be curious if Sneko lends that generosity to people who he thinks are immoral or degenerates or, you know. You mean the same sort of enemies. I see what you're saying. Because this is not only people can change yes, but like this is undermines everything he believes in. And it gets worse.

Please watch, keep, keep, you can do times 1.5, so maybe it goes faster. Or like, yeah, yeah, that's cool. The sneak-in-out. So we're supposed to swap another couple, but I didn't like, I wasn't really fucking with his girl. And that's when that's swingers. That's not really good for you. Not totally, it was like, ugly girl to take. That's a crazy guy.

That's a, you know, you're not going to fuck. Yeah, you know, you already miss so much shit. Oh, I did it. This is a, isn't it. You think it's like this girl. Well, let me, let me, let me, let me talk on your side. That's supposed to race her. So, who's, hold,

was that, your solution to, like, trying to. I think it was both of our video. We saw something in that show of sex, like, on Netflix, like I went to a swinger party. Like, I don't do that, especially because, like, I do three songs all the time, she's not even that bisexual. So it's like, she's, I kind of thought she's putting on a show a little bit.

So I'm like, if I'm able to go and I say him to be having a relationship and she kind of go on dates, this is a place where she can exercise a whole relationship. Like, it should be fair that she can take other dick from her pussy. It's balanced. Well, there, he's preaching equality there. You've got to agree with him there. Yeah, I agree. It's certainly not his opinion now either.

He said if I'm going to do it, she gets to do it. Yeah, certainly not agree there is. There's something we can agree on there. I'm not like getting any of this. Keep going, bro. I hate all of this. Keep going. This is honestly, yeah, making me a little uncomfortable.

This is one of my favorite clips, my friends. It's not about you all about, y'all both knowing that it's happening. So they're never behind it before. You've got to know. I got to see it. You know, you'll be literally in front of you. I love how his friends are consistently shocked. That's the most cuck-ass shit I've ever heard, dude.

That's what they call it. You sat on a bed while you got fucked to. I was there too. I was fucking his girl. So pause it. This man was sitting on the bed as his girlfriend was getting arrailed by King fucking dong. And like literally crying. Dude, that's like, The worst cuck story you could ever dream. And I'm saying if this happened in me, I would fucking take this to the mother-loving grave. But he's out here like... He owned it.

He did own it. Well, well, keep going. I don't want to watch any more of this. No, no, come on. We get the gist of it. I think we get the gist of it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you didn't. Okay.

A little bit more, a little bit more. She was like, she was like, I don't like, I was like, I was like that. I was like that. I was like that. And then she left to, like, love me. And then she left to, like, I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't Like, I was literally having PTSD watching that. I was, like, having war contact.

Like, I just started, you could not do it. Can I do it. Oh, pause it. No. Deep eye contact and she gets me so bad. And she grabs his dick and says, I want you to fuck me. Damn, bro. I thought I got freaky. This is a whole way other...

level shit for me. Yeah. I would never do it. Never. Just a little bit longer. Just like another minute. And then I'll let you guys go on this one. Her toes were curling.

I had to be curling. I didn't know. So this is like I'm not doing this. I'm like, I'm not doing this. I'm like, I'm nervous about it. I literally had BTSD about it. I had bad dreams about this for like a week.

Like I didn't know I was fucking. So we were counting the balls, y'all, all of the snap, everyone's naked. And then the fucking four of the men. There's like 40. 40. 40. He counting the balls, y'all. This is the part when he teabags another man.

I feel like we ought to call Sico, dude. Holy shit. Call him. Yeah, call him. and ask him first how many Jews died in the Holocaust just ask him that

you notice how he has this rug does it's not make you feel uncomfortable why what is it put one and two together bro it's he doesn't like this to him

a hundred times he doesn't like the shape of the rug the color is a little bit of the cuts what fuck are you on about what is it just tell

he thinks it looks like a swast oh I guess I haven't had that vantage point of it I don't look at it. Bro, it's not, it's just a random red fucking rug. That's funny. It's a good bit.

I don't, yeah. I think you're good though. Bro, please. For the audience, for the audience. Stein, you had to bow out of this one, but like we're getting to the teabagging part and then we can bail. We'll come and start watching. Oh, oh, oh, look, look. You are there.

And then I hear his girl say to the boyfriend, like, liquor clip. Here. Here. Here. Think about the logistics of that. See that. logistic, his head is like under, it's like six inches, like, his eyebrows are like tickled at the bottom. And I have to, like, go like that so I don't make contact.

His eyebrows are like ticked. I'm like here with it. Like I'm trying to not touch his head. And he was completely okay with it. Like, I was, I'm like, I'm trying to. I'm like, I can't, this is logistically, this is not going to. I mean, you, I mean, you miss the teabagging part. Yeah.

So that, I mean, again, like, he's, I think, like, overtly homophobic. And that's the gayest shit. ever heard he said he said a man was tickling his ball sacks with his fucking eye lashes which is cute which is cute I I I you want to call him we we have two savages here just please just one thing he's a savage though I'm trying to be positivity only right now I don't care well see that's the problem you invited me yeah well we're gonna do it dude but just first question just ask him without telling him anything how many Jews died in the Holocaust

fuck oh man I hope he answers called him earlier he's getting sorry I'm busy teabagging another man oh my god oh I can feel your eyelashes tickling my balls right there I feel like we need to get a hold of him

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Ask it. Ask it. You didn't answer my call the other day. I did. We're on a podcast. We're on a podcast. I'm staying completely out of this. This is between two people.

Ask it. Should we have him ask him? No, no, not me. Here. Ethan is here. Do you want me to ask him this shit? I don't feel comfortable asking his shit. I'll ask him.

Yeah. All right. Yo, Sneiko, I'm going to tell you this. I didn't want him to know. I've showed you mad love this podcast. I've said, yo, Sneco's been respectful. Have I not? No, you've been very, you've talked very kindly of him.

I said, yo, I respect Nico. He asked me why. I said, yo, he's fucked me since day one. He's never switched up. So I've said that. But he brings us in here, and now we're watching a clip about you talking about a sex party. Where are dudes, where the part where you, some dudes, Dude's eyelashes tickled your balls.

You heard that shit. I don't want to do it. He's talking about this video. Can they hear him? Hold on. Can the audience hear him? Yeah, well, if they're on here. So he goes, he goes, sorry, what was that?

I was like, yeah, you heard me. You heard that shit. I don't know. What is this not to do with the podcast? Well, I don't know necessarily how we got here now at this point. I'm a little, I'm a little confused. Just ask him how many Jews died in the Holocaust. Ethan wants me to ask you how many Jews died in the Holocaust.

I have no idea. Put the phone up to the speaking, yeah. Okay, so what does it have to do with the video? Don't answer, don't charge. Come on, bro. Just answer. No, because I was saying that he should, I was saying that he should debate you,

and then we started talking about you, and then he started giving his opinion on you, and then he was. Tell him instead of playing these clips and trying to do, like, common snaky tactics. Like, we could do the debate that he called out for. If he's too afraid to do it, that's fine.

Ask him to stop. Can I talk to him? I'll talk to him. Yeah, yeah, here, here, here. Ouch, hey, Sneko. Use the mic. You called to do this debate. Sneko, can you hear me? Yes.

Can the audit, can you hear him? You just got to put him like this against the mic. Where's the speaker on the top? It's on the bottom. The bottom. Snico, how many Jews died in the Holocaust? We'll do the debate that you all called for whenever you want to do it. It's such a simple question.

Why? You know how I feel about what you talk about and everything you deal. How many Jews died in the Holocaust? Why? That's such an easy... That's like a softball, right? I mean, I wasn't there. How many...

What do you think? Well, yeah, I mean, it's about 6 million, right? Is the general historical estimate? Yeah, it was exactly that. No more, no less, it was exactly that. Wow, that is like, so... That's like the dumbest, lowest IQ take ever. you take ever. Do you really think people

are saying, hold on, hold on, Sneko, do you really think people are saying that exactly six million Jews died? Like, I mean, so you're pretty dumb in bad faith if that's where you're starting from. All right, if I'm so dumb, then do the thing that you call for. You said you weren't

at the Holocaust, so you don't know. You're a Muslim, right? Are you hesitating? on that one too do you not know the answers to these questions what do you say he said you know the answer to these questions yeah well were you there when like mohammed fucking flew a horse winged horse to heaven what are you talking about were you there then how do you know what happened see we we have to things happen and they're documented historically and we can't pick and choose

what we believe in like if you want to actually go through the evidence and see like the meticulous documenting that the Nazis did they couldn't have have kept the records better but you're going to sit here and say I wasn't there I mean you obviously don't believe that the whole you believe the Holocaust was greatly exaggerated at least admit to that

nope I said it's exactly what they said it was it was exactly six million no more no less exactly and do you still dream about a fellow's lashes tickling your balls when you fucking jerk off? Because I bet that felt pretty good. Staying this to my face

when I see you. Why are you mad? Why are you mad? Because I can imagine that felt really good. I mean, I like my balls tickled. You look in your wife's eyes and you see that the IDS soldier that's genociding Palestinians. Do you feel good about that? It's mandissory conscription. so I mean everybody's yeah yeah so when you're when you're happy seeing an IDF soldier

say what you're happy as sharing your bed with an IDF soldier that's genocide of Palestinians that makes you happy well my wife hasn't killed anybody or come participated in like combat but like I do love my wife I am part of the part of the military that's committing genocide right now you're comfortable sharing your bed with somebody who's participated in that she hasn't participated in that no she wasn't She wasn't a part of the IDF? Well, she was, yeah, no, she was part of the IDF, as all Israelis are. I love my wife, and I'm very proud and happy to share my bed with her.

I'm very critical of the Israeli government, though, and I agree it's terrible what's happening there. Do you want to tell me how many Jews died in the Holocaust or how good it feels to get your balls tickled with eyelashes? Come, bro, you know what would be good? Next time, bring like a bird feather. That would be fucking hot as shit. And just tickle the sack with that. that would that would be really exciting all right

you seem you seem upset what the fuck is going on you seem upset I'll let you go but when I see you when I see you say all this you're gonna get a happy ending there or no no I'm not a

I'm not a devian like you are okay oh I'm not a Mr fucking Mr you know usually I fucking dab up my boys but you nut up your boys You go nut to nut with your boys. Holy shit.

All right, here, I'm going to hand the phone back to sneakway. Enjoy your massage. You're going, you know, sorry that you're so mad during your massage. I'm sorry if I ruined that for you. Oh, great, man. I look forward to the debate you're running from. Well, I'm literally am talking to you on FaceTime right now. I'm very clearly not running from a debate.

You're the one that's like, oh, stop asking me questions. You know the answers to. Like, come on, bro. Yeah, I'm not here to talk about feathers with a 50-year-old man. I'll talk about Zionism when you're ready. That's all you want to talk about. There's nothing else to talk to you about. You don't stand for anything and you're fraud.

Okay. Cool. This is the buildup. This is crazy. Brad, take your fucking phone back before I walk out of here. Yeah, so anyway. Yeah, fuck. Oh, he's so.

All right. Thank you. He's mad. He's upset. Yeah, he was mad. Yeah. He wanted to fight me, you guys. I don't know the tension was that high.

Well, this is why I don't like that. you're fucking... No, but here's the thing. Content spaces. I don't... I don't get upset about Sneco. He doesn't bother me. I just think he's a despicable human being

that is the antithesis of like everything I believe in. And that's it. I mean, so like there's certain people that I feel fully warranted to go after. And if his response is like, oh, I'm violence, then I mean... Do you think there's anything good in the things that he talks about? what good well like for example what i don't know i'm just saying anything that you've seen do you think there is good in any of it um i don't know uh surely some people get something good i wouldn't be surprised if there was something good in it right like everybody's got people won't be listening to

him if there wasn't something helpful for somebody yeah yeah probably did you see the did you see the the conversation that he had with uh moist critical and then this the whole yeah i wasn't happy with how that went because i felt like charlie wasn't uh well prepared to have that conversation yeah by the way that segues nicely into the trans the boxer the trans boxer yeah you made a tweet about that i would love to actually transition well apparently apparently apparently that she was actually a woman with uh she had x y chromosomes or some shit with more masculine chromosomes. So here,

let me, let me ask you. You're obviously like a Kamala supporter, right? I'm, I mean, yes. I mean, yes, I'm going to vote for Kamala. I'm not like enthusiastic about anything really, but

am I like a Trump supporter? No. Why do you prefer Kamala? I think that Trump is clearly represents the interests of the wealthy.

Like he's a, literally a billionaire and a farmer's outfit. I'm just curious, and I'm not, you're definitely, I'll give you this, you're more educated before I get into this, you're more educated into politics. Here's the three things that I do know. I pay a shitload of fucking taxes

to this state of California every year. I don't see this shit in proving whatsoever. Kamala is not going to be the one calling the shots. We know that. Someone's going to be telling her what to do. Why? Watch her, bro. Bro, she was like,

she had like a super high-ranking district. She's a very accomplished lawyer. She has like monster credentials. Wow. She was dating the, she was dating Willie. What was his role? She got,

she got started from dating someone that made her an accomplished lawyer? That got her her first job into Nolk. How did you get into Nelk? Through Bob Minery. I didn't do anything. Oh shit. So you suck someone's dick to get into Nile?

I didn't suck no one's dick. I fucking met this guy at a bar and I said, bro, I don't, I don't see your point. Didn't she failed? No, my... Once.

Lawyers fail the bar all the time. She took it again and passed it. He's actually right. The pass rate's crazy. So that he's actually right there. But I will tell you... Anyway, like I'm not in the business to defending Kamala.

I think Trump is like... No, but I think that... And I'm going to cut you off, but I do think that there's this negative condensation of Trump that is so pushed onto people that is just not true, bro. And I think that you want someone leading your country who is an entrepreneur, who is a businessman

who will think for himself. I'd rather have a guy who thinks for himself than I picture Kamala in the overall. office with 10 people, you should do this, you should do this. And she's driving, like, I don't know what it is, but Trump will go with his gut. And I want a leader who's going to be confident in what they do. So you said you want Trump because you want someone that will go with his gut, whatever that means. And who is a business, who's a businessman. I think that's, yeah, I think that's a huge piece of the American dream being an entrepreneur. I think that Kamala wants

more of a corporate, nine to five, robotic type America. That's what I think. based okay whatever i don't want to get into this conversation because like ultimately i just i'm just curious no because i want to talk about the trans boxer more okay so then hold on hold on before that let's ask that that that question that moist critical was asked about the the nine-year-olds like do you think nine-year-olds should be giving like gender affirming care or so i have a and thank you for asking that because it's a comp that's a very complex question the thing is like no nine-year-old should not be getting life-changing sex change operations but the thing is

it almost never happens the one exception that I think should be considered is like if a psychiatry and a medical board if a child has attempted suicide or has shown that they're going to attempt suicide which sometimes it is that bad and the doctors conclude like the only way to the best way to try to treat that

to keep them alive literally to save their life is to perform some kind But I don't think kids under 18 even get, like, top or bottom surgery. They'll take, like, hormone replacement and stuff like that. Well, you can do a puberty blockers now. Yeah, puberty blockers. The hormone replaces what are you speaking to. But that's still, like, very life-altering at such young age.

So apparently taking hormone blockers is not life-altering. If you go off it, your body resumes. But at that age, your body is still. But I don't think kids should be taking hormone blockers or getting surgery. Because Charlie related it to, like, picking a sport. But Charlie, again, he was not prepared to talk about that topic. And he represented, I think, trans people really poorly. Yeah.

So there are trans people, young trans people, who are suicidal and their lives are at risk. I mean, trans people, their rate of suicide, you know what it is of trans people? 50% of all trans people attempt. But is it before or after the change? Before. Before? Yeah. Yeah.

50%. attempt it attempt it okay attempt or dot like that's pretty that's pretty stagger on so like these these are one of the most marginalized group of people that are extraordinarily misunderstood and and the target of a lot of like culture war right now and these are people that are already like 50% are attempting suicide so young kids let's say seven-year-old has tried to kill themselves So if a medical board and a doctor and a psychiatrist have come together and they're like, he's going to kill himself, then I think in this rare case that we can make exceptions. But you should know that in the United States, and this is why this conversation, I think, is so fragile.

I think the conversation is like a monster red herring because in the United States per year, kids get like sex change operations it's like single digit the whole country Well that was what I was going to say to you It doesn't happen We're talking about suicide right

Like there's a way bigger population of kids Not trans that deal with the same shit That we don't give What does that have to do with anything? We don't give them nearly the attention You think trans people want the attention They don't want the attention You don't think so?

No They just want to fucking live How can you say that? They just want to live their life and feel normal It seems like the entire community's pushed on us regularly. Hold on. I don't think you're grasping with this. This sex change of kids, it doesn't happen. Okay.

In the U.S. So what do you think? Single digits. So why are people so obsessed with that? Because Gavin Newsom is passing a fucking law, which is fucking ridiculous. And that's why. What is it? That now, and please correct me from wrong, but now that in the school, if a kid goes

to a teacher and says, hey, you know, I'm thinking about transitioning, something along those lines. They're not required to tell their parents. which is fucking bullshit and it actually pisses me off i'm not i don't i'm not familiar with the law yeah that's what that's like how the fuck is that a scenario it's actually devastating well so like what imagine i don't know the law but let's let's do a mind because experiment with it okay imagine like a 16 year old from a super conservative family is like i think i'm gay or trans and i don't know what to do about it they're confiding in a teacher who they trust who understands them like their family doesn't so is it is it possible that like telling this people this child's family you can put

them in at risk you could put them in and like really grave mental you put them in a terrible situation you can imagine like a conservative family yeah what they think about being gay or trans so I think it's mostly again to protect people on the margins again because there are people on the margins that really do just get it so badly you know and I think we're looking to protect those and I think people who look at this conversation think

it's way more common than it is and it really isn't like I'm telling you single digits and that we talked about this me and Brad recently but I'm telling you right now like we were referencing the boxer that boxer Leah Thomas they give the entire trans community a way worse look

why because they're competing do you think she's trans who the what's the name of the i think lea thomas i think lea thalgerian lady who what's her name the algerian girl that one it's like a mom something i'm not sure imam so let's talk about her but that one's not confirmed like lea thomas who i don't it did transition in one every event like i think there are certain situations wait i don't i don't i didn't hear about that i'm i've been focusing on the boxing thing because that's what people are talking about but i think there's certain situations where there are people that are that sick that are

like you I want to compete and win and they're willing to go through that and that gives the entire uh trans community a bad reputation so I I wish I knew more about that so I could talk about it but can we just discuss the boxing thing yeah yeah and then I have a question following but yeah okay so um do you think that she's like what do you think she cheated like what no so so from what I from what I understood looking more into it was that she is basically a woman with something like Sawyer's syndrome or some some syndrome that like her xy chromosomes is not normal like a regular woman so she has more masculine out like features she might have more testosterone but so here's the thing about her one it's not even proven it's not even it was like

one ruling by some Russian boxing group that was like overruled by the Olympic committee upon looking and you know there's pictures of her as a little girl she's lived her life as a girl her whole life. She's never been anything like that, but that. In Algeria it's illegal to be gay and trans. So obviously they wouldn't send a trans athlete to represent them. And the other thing about it that's a little insidious

is that I truly believe her life will be in danger when she goes home. Yeah, I agree with you 100%. For something that, frankly, she's a woman. And by the way, if she's so unstoppable, she's lost nine times to women in her career. She competed

in the 2020. That's a fact. I read that as well. So she's lost to women? That changes the whole conversation. Hold on. Hold on. She competed in the 2020 Olympics. She didn't even place.

But she's failing these gender tests because of the chromosome. She hasn't failed any gender test. She hasn't. So is there any scenario where she's taking something that's giving her more testosterone? So that's not, there's not certain. No, everything about testosterone and the chromosomes, it's all hearsay. But even if she did have the extra. So then how does that rumor even become a thing?

It was, in my opinion, like, uh, I think it was like a Russian propaganda thing. I think they're leaking all kinds of crazy shit into our society constantly to tear our culture apart. And it's like so odd. It's like it's like a fish chum, you know, like the trans boxer that beats up the poor defenseless girl. Sure.

You know, it's like, and so there was a grain of truth because there was this Russian Federation that disqualified her because she failed as sex change. Those guys just had a press conference. In a gender test. Yeah, gender test. Those guys, by the way, had a press conference today to try to defend themselves. And apparent, I haven't watched it, but I heard it was like just a total fucking chaotic mess where they didn't say anything.

And they're like, oh, we can't say anything because of a privacy, which is obviously bullshit. Like, they don't give a fuck about a privacy. So what's your overall opinion then? Yeah, so the question is essentially, do you think transgender men or, you know, people who are transitioning saying I'm a woman, they're a woman now? do you think they should be competing in men's sports or women's sports rather so generally speaking i think i think i think no yeah but i do think it's more complicated than like yes or no for example like there's certain government's bodies that say like if let's say you're a trans woman you're a man to transition to a woman and you want to compete in women's sports so some

research suggests and some governing bodies say like if you've been on estrogen for like 10 years or then like you would be at a similar baseline as like your your your female counter not female I mean they're all women they're women counterparts all I mean your competitors is what I mean your co-competters so like there are and there are certain sports where um well here's the major issue yeah if me and you transition and go and compete the WMBA no one's going to give a fuck because we're not going to be superior to everybody else but if you have a legit athlete college male

D1 athlete go to the WMBA then it's going to be a problem because the hormone therapy they would love to happen and I would consider doing that if you want to go I agree but again

I think that's a little cartoonish I don't think that really happens well they've happened with this this is an example of it so I don't know anything about what this is a male athlete who was a male athlete

who was a male athlete for a very long time and then transition and then just dominated because also because we're talking this is swimming specifically but body structure like hormone change

Yeah, for 10 years. They're not going to change your bone. So hold on. Was she, when did she transition? I believe in college. She was the first openly transgender athlete to win a NCAA national championship. The thing is, I wish I had more time because there's always more to these stories. No, how much time do you have?

I have time. Okay, good. I'm trying to get some. I'm really enjoying this time. I'm not trying to bail. No, for sure. I want to have like a holistic combo. Yeah, yeah.

But like, theoretically, if it's just like a dude who, a true, you know, a true, you know, trans woman who was like, okay, now I'm going to go compete, was before the transition, were they like a mediocre swimmer and then they transitioned and then they're like getting gold medals? That's exactly what happened with her. Yeah. They just dominate. I don't even think she was ranking in the men's and then she went to the women.

Because it's also just physical structure that's not just going to completely alter because of hormones. We talked about if Brad went and competed in women's weightlifting. But that again, so that's okay. The thing about like the trans athlete conversation. Would you support that or no? Obviously not. Why though?

because he could be a champion and if you're a friend that's true and that way I support it because I want the best for you bro what the fuck yeah yeah we want the best for him and then we hang out

with a fucking Olympian we gotta speak the why not me as an example I think you should do it I'm not doing it why that's not me

that's not me I get the joke it's not me I don't think you're really like you're thinking about all the perks about being an Olympian when did she win all these awards like when did this happen

is this like a recent thing or happened a few years ago. Dude, you would get more ass as a chick than you do as a dude. Bro, shut the fuck up. Now that's just bullshit. You're just a dick, sorry.

I'm just trying to, I'm trying to read a little bit about it so I can have. No, you take your time. You're good. The reason I know so much about her is because we did, this was two years ago,

we did Caitlin Jenner on the podcast. And she was very, very, very against Leah Thomas. So, I mean, if the facts are, as you say, certainly that, but let's see. And she was openly spoken about that. So apparently the NCAA has guidelines for transgender athletes, including hormone treatment to lower her testosterone levels. So I guess that's like kind of what I was talking about.

Despite this, her eligibility and performance sparked obvious significant debate. So it sounds like she did, so the NAACP has, sounds like some regulations for trans athletes, which includes them going on hormone blockers for a specific number of years. So she did comply with that. But it does become like a very kind of philosophical question about like... Because obviously if you're just talking about like...

Is there any party though that's like... So hold on. Sorry, go ahead. She wins because she has physical... Advantage. But like isn't that all sports? Like Shaq... I can't play basketball against Shaq.

But like, is it unfair that he gets to... play and I don't. Yeah, but we're to, it's, it's, but that's a completely different conversation. That's a biological thing. He's playing against biological men that have the same, whatever the chromosomes are. We're talking about a dude. You're talking about, that's like

I identify now, I'm a woman, she's a woman at that point, but he has that physical advantage immediately because he was born a male. Right. Has that height has the link. And the reason that I get part up about it is because I, yeah, I actually really like, even this year and I've talked about it, like the WMBA has been the biggest thing it's ever

Ben yeah and it's fucking been amazing for women's sports and you see shit like this and it's just like it's never going to help their case i agree that uh i think there's like a really nuanced conversation having about gender and i think that um this boxer the algerian boxer is like a perfect case like let's say she does have an xy chromosome does that make her a man yeah that that that's well in this in that case no because she's she was born and she has a you know a woman's body part and she just had some sort of deformity and not deformity or whatever it is it she was born well she's asexual or uh what is it she asexual or uh what is that's not the right word it's uh asexual means you know bang yeah me yeah yeah what's the name for it's

it's uh it means she she's born with both sex organs which happens right what she's hermaphrodite that i think that's the word wait what what mean by that's the old school word for it is that amice is that wrong and saying what do you mean you're born born with both organs i think it's fine you have a vagina and penis it's you could have both those that's a real thing yeah that is not a real thing it's a real thing it's a real thing it happens extremely rare but a real thing i don't even think it's that rare that has to be pretty rare it is i've never met i don't think well you wouldn't know if you met them why would you know you asked to see genitals i've partied pretty hard you would not in miami you wouldn't fucking know you come out with me

you come out with me one night you'll fucking you're like i would know i'm drunk i'm shitface dude i could totally perceive everything around me perfectly. If they took that thing up, then fuck it. You wouldn't even notice, bro. It says one in 2,000 children born each year are neither a girl nor boy. Intersex. That's the, that's the word thing. I must have said the old school word.

I think it's fine. Okay. It's just, yeah. But intersex is when basically there's like a scale of like there's the penis and there's the clitoris. They both start the same in the development of the embryo, right? And so the asexual lands somewhere in the middle. Like some are more towards the female genital side

and some are more towards the male genital side. So like if you're going to decide, is this a man or is this a woman? Basically, how do you decide that? And let's take the boxer as an example and say she does have X, Y chromosome. And she's like, has a vagina, but like also has like, I don't know how it works, so forgive me.

I feel like if you're born with both, you're a dude. Don't they kind of side towards one and pick one? Like, most of the times they choose one? She identifies as a woman and she has her whole life. But does she have both parts? I think it's not like a full penis. It's like a, and correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's like a big. I think it's like a big.

I think it's like a big clay situation. What are you talking about? Well, I mean, bro, you have a small penis. You think I have a small penis? Yeah. It's got to look tiny because you're so big. Yeah. That's pretty funny.

I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. You guys. You've got a big clit is what you go. That's what you're talking about. I've never had complaints. You got that big ass clitoris. Don't, yeah.

I've never had complaints. I wonder if Jeff Wittick said any complaints. Yeah, I'm sure you know. No, I'm kidding. So, like, I think what happens is that it's like a big clitoris type of situation. So it's not a penis as you understand it to be. But this is, that's such a different conversation than just like. Well, should this person be able to compete?

Well, so, I mean, that's a very unique situation, I think. Because we're talking about now, someone... Well, all these are unique. I don't think there's tons of trans athletes. So let's deal with the real situation, and let's actually answer the hard questions about it. This Algerian boxer, should she be able to compete? If she has a penis, then I don't think so.

It's not a penis, as you know it. And she was raised as a girl. She is a girl. There's pictures of her as a little girl. She's been boxing professionally against women. for a long time I mean she's been professional

for a long, long, long time she's lost fights to women The fact that she's lost to women is a big big A lot of women That's a big point She's not walking out in the ring

Like Andre the giant And bonking them on the head Like people make it sound like You know what I mean? Like she has Like I said Last Olympics 2020 She didn't even place

That's fucking nuts So like it's not like She's out here How old is she though? She's still the very Is this the clip becoming a penis at this point? No, I think she's 25. It doesn't, I don't think it works that way.

Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so. Well, we got into the whole for Taurus penis talk and now all of a sudden I can't be involved. No, dude, you're involved. No, you're good. So this is... You don't have a tight time to you? No, I'm pretty good on time.

I don't have anything to do today. I just have a family and shit. What time do you have? I live in West L.A. It's like a 30-minute drive. minute drive i'd have like probably another 30 40 minutes yeah there we go why is he pissing so much i don't know adderall maybe he was taking shots before the podcast that probably too which i love that's so nilk of him so it sounds like i'm waiting for stearney to come back

because he said she you said she shouldn't be able to compete but like with all the information She has a penis. If she doesn't have a fucking penis, he should not be able to compete. She doesn't have a penis as you understand it. Dude, I don't, how is there no understanding? So you, so if she has a penis, so you pull down, so someone's going to inspect her genitals, how does that work? I mean, can we have like a, is there like a, what's the word you used? What?

The word you used to describe someone who's born with both. The hermaphite, but it's going to intersect. What's the word? What was the work? What I forget? Intersex. Intersex, yeah. Can we not.

create an intersex weight class? Well, I think these people identify one way or the other. Okay. She's a woman. You know what you mean? Yeah, so I don't know. So you would inspect her genitals and then... I didn't say that. Was this a gender test? Oh, here we go. Now, no, no, well, he said... Okay, you're right. I just, no, I'm trying to have like... I said, yo, if you're

born with the penis, I think that you should be, you should have to compete with the males. Imagine fucking Bruce Jenner had both. How dominant he'd be in humans. Well, hold on. Well, she doesn't have both. So that's not even but I'm just saying like if you if you really look down to it like he's already the best Olympian of all time so you have all time you're glazing her up yeah yeah Michael Phelps for sure but he was up there yeah um I want to deal with the actual like concrete thing we're talking

about so you're saying why are you so passionate about this topic no I'm not it's just I feel like if we I want to talk it through all the way to tease out what we really believe into and to But we also don't know enough about this person. I'm not talking... Well, no, I want to say, hypothetically, she has the X, Y chromosome. So she has more masculine traits? Just for the sake of the conversation. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. She has nine losses confirmed. Yeah. Four later disqualified. 44 wins. Four later disqualified. Yeah.

It's not like she's undefeated. You know what I mean? No, she's not. Far from it, frankly. Yeah. Man, that's a big, big, big stat that people like to leave out on X. they you just see this one fight where this one italian boxer's like she gave up immediately and she's like crying and his kind of like borderline hysterical which is i thought her reaction was bizarre even

like to begin with like what kind of but anyway whatever that was her reaction i think that contributed a lot to the to the cultural hysteria because again you look at her record she's been fighting women and losing beating she's like very right like in that competitive zone with Her nine losses does not help the case here. No. Yeah. Not at all. Fuck, now I think I'm signing more with...

By the way, she had a fight today to proceed to the next round. She won. Obviously, she fought a woman, but they went the whole distance. It was decided by the judges. And it was a good fight from what I heard. What round are they at? Are they now fighting for gold? Do you know?

They're not. It's not decided to... They're just moving up. apparently the Olympics I didn't know this is a Olympic boxing is one loss and you're out I was like damn that's harsh to continue on I see yeah yeah I mean I just think like it's it's man versus man or woman I wonder how this all came to it's it would be nice if it was that

simple but that's I'm trying to tease out like why do you think this all came about like how does this even get we'll say exposed so I think part of it comes from like the good place and people which is like they see kids they see stories about kids being like mutilated genitaly and they people love kids people care about kids we all want kids to be happy and healthy and we want the best for them so ultimately i think it's starting from a really good place of like so that's good right to start from there protecting the kids yeah protecting the kids which we all we all want to do but i think from there it's probably been exploited by like i

Ideologues, propagandists, and other kind of such bad faith people to just like either boost their own content or to so discord in American society, which, let's be real, it's never been more discord. And we know for sure the Russians, the Iranians, the Chinese are all constantly involved. We know that for sure. Yes, it's for sure. Trying to disseminate misinfoam. How do we know that for sure? Okay, wait. This is completely off topic, and you're probably going to roast me for this.

But have you seen... The intelligence agency I've said so much. And I think even the social media companies have said as much, too. Have you seen the Chinese female basketball player? No. She's 17 and she's 75. Oh, shit. Have you seen that?

No, that's crazy. How fucking insane is that? That's insanely tall. You think that's natural, or do you think that's lab? How the fuck would I know? People are tall all the time. There's like nine foot, dude, tall people. You don't see a seven-foot chick at 17.

Can I see a photo? Yeah. Well, she probably, she might have a three. Well, dude, again, she might have a condition of like gigantism. Look at. Yeah, she probably has a condition. How the hell are you deeing that up? Or she has a condition.

You're definitely not deeing that up. Fuck no. No. But do you hear what I'm saying? She has a condition that makes you like mega tall. Should she not be allowed to compete? She's a woman. So I see what you're saying.

Yeah. But that's a, right, so she'd be able to compete if she has the same. condition she should be yeah okay 55 points but these are two so my in my head is like two separate things we're talking about like certain things conditions like this yeah of course she's a woman she's born extra fucking tall well the difficult conversations happen in the margin right and the rare cases that's why we that's what this is about so going back to the boxer she has a x y you're saying if she has a penis she can't compete so how do we how do we decide if she has a penis like genuinely this i think you get a physical okay i was going to say it really

fucking bad joke. No, but I mean, I think you just get a physical. So you want to force? I don't think that's force on anybody. No, it's not. She can sense. Sorry, Sneco. So you want to make female boxers

all get their genitals inspected? I think that physical is pretty normal thing. So all female athletes should get a gender test. I think honestly there's all athletes. I didn't say anything about females. I think just all the athletes in general. It's the same thing as drug testing.

Do you think it matters if a man, is displaying... Have you ever seen a woman go and try and compete in a male competition? I'm sure it's happened. There's a lot of... That would never happen.

There's a lot of sports that aren't like purely physical, you know what I mean? Sure. So you have like, well, take ping pong, for instance. Maybe in a scenario like that. Pollo, shit like that.

But could a woman compete in NBA? No, obviously not. No, obviously. I think that's a... I'm not denying that men have more physical prowess. That's established. That's a fact.

Right? Yeah. So all women athletes are going to now submit to a genital inspection so let's say this boxer she has identified as a woman she's a woman she's always been a woman she lives in Algeria she's competed with women and then she the doctor's like I see your clit is kind of big whatever let's do a a DNA test or a gender test and then it comes back like X Y chromosome so so basically we're at the point where it's and I'm like I said I

I don't even know shit about this, but it's either your testosterone levels or if your organs define whether you should be able to compete, right? Okay, so she has a penis and she has... But what does it come down to, the organs, or is it the... Well, she has a vagina, too. She has a vagina. Also, there's all kinds of women that have, like, elevated testosterone for one reason or another. There's medical conditions.

There's things that you can be born with. Her condition provides more testosterone than most women. So again, it's like, is it different than the Chinese girl with the gigantism? It's kind of the same thing in this case. It's a physical advantage. She has a physical advantage if she's born with more testosterone, most likely. But like, if we're going to, we should disqualify the tall Chinese girl with gigantism then, too. I mean, that's a genetic anomaly.

And it gives her a monster advantage. You saw that picture. She doesn't even need to try. She's like, think. No, that's huge. the WMBA needs her for the views. But do you see how this conversation is, it stems back to just the overall thing

of like, okay, should men who now identify and their women, their women now, should they be able to, excuse me, compete, yeah, compete against women. Like it goes back to that conversation. I guess my point and that I hope I'm making, getting across is that it's just, I wish it was that simple.

Because if you're asking me, can a dude throw on a dress and go compete with women weightlifting? No, obviously not, right? I think the vast majority of people would say, no, that's ridiculous. I don't approve of that. But it gets really complicated when, like, you get into the minutia and the margins of it and you look at, like, the fine details of, like, what is actually happening? What is the consequence?

Who are these people? You know, what's their story? What is their medical condition? Because as much as, like, it's reported, I don't think that there's dudes throwing on dresses and competing in women's sports. It's like it just doesn't. Maybe it's happened once with this girl. I'm not familiar with her story.

The swimmer. Yeah, the swimmer. But like the vast majority of trans athletes, they're not out there like stomping the competition. Like this is the first trans athlete I've seen who's like taking gold medals. Like, and there's a paradox too. But if they're losing, you don't hear about it and nobody cares. Are you sure that they're out there losing?

Is that's, yeah. You think so? Yeah. Yeah, they're out there losing. For sure. They're competing, you know, but then the thing is there's a paradox, right? Like, if they're losing, nobody cares, nobody knows. If they're winning, then everybody notices and everybody cares. But the thing is, it's possible a trans person is just better. So, like, there's also a paradox there. It's like, if they're not, if they're not winning, nobody cares. If they are winning, they can never win fairly, no matter how good they are, no matter how gifted, natural. They can never win in the eyes of the public or whatever fairly. Because if they compete their whole lives and they lose and lose, nobody gives a fuck.

They put in the work, they put in the time to become a master at their sport. But then when they win, it's automatically like this person cheated. Yeah, see, but that's the whole point I made earlier is that I think that it affects the entire trans community because I truly believe, like, Leah Thomas transitioned to be dominant. in the sport that she couldn't be dominant in as a male. I wish I knew more about that. Well, clearly, I don't agree with people doing that. And I think vast majority of people don't agree with that.

If you're doing it for that reason, which is a huge decision, which Bradley, we're going to have to talk about it. Because I think that there's a lot of perks if you really take over women. I love what I'm doing. Okay, but I'm just saying,

if you want to take it to the next level. I'm going to take you to the next level doing something else. Turn that little pecker into a clit. A little pecker. I feel like you project a lot with me, man. There is a lot of research from medical organizations that does say, though, like transgender athletes who have been on hormone blockers and testosterone for like a set amount of years lose a ton of the advantage that they had as pre-transitioned

because like your bone density lowers, your energy levels lower, your muscle mass, like, you know, all this kind of stuff that gives men a physical edge. It gets totally blocked. out so like there are and again it's complicated right it's hard like to look at that and say well it's easier just be like men and women you know uh let's just keep them together it's it's it's easier to say that and i agree with the sentiment right yeah but i think because i'm i'm interested in trans issues personally i why why do you think though you're i could tell you're really passionate about this whole thing and you know a lot about the boxing situation is it because

people are so misinformed or you think like this i see them as like certain i don't know her name but she shouldn't be taking the we'll say hate that she's receiving um i see them as like the most marginalized group and they're like mega at risk these are like normal ass fucking good americans they and and i just see them getting like so uh defamed and it's dangerous i i feel it's dangerous so do you think that this is the issue because um Let's say they're literally in the same community as gays, right? Sure, yeah, LGBT. Right.

So do you think that because of that, there's more attention on them, and this wouldn't be as serious if they were in a separate category? Because I think there's a lot, we can all agree, and it's factual that there's a lot more gays in the world than they're trans. But because they're all grouped together, there's this hyper-focus on trans. I guess I don't follow your logic. Like, I feel like that there's such a... Why does it matter if they're, like, in that group?

Because then you're not only looking, you're grouping everybody together. You're judging all gay people for what trans people do? No, I think that, I think that they're, like, I don't think that if you're gay, that necessarily puts you in the same category as trans. I agree. I don't know why they're grouped together, but I still fail to understand. Where I'm going with this? Yeah.

No, I'm just saying, do you think that because they're all grouped together, that brings way more attention to the trans community? But why? Because people don't like gay people? No, because there's a lot more gay people. So when you think of gay people, you think of what you just said, LGBTQ. So then you think, oh, trans, gay, trans, they're grouped together. Do you see what I'm saying? I see what you're saying, but I'm trying to follow, like, what the point you're trying to make is.

Is I think that it makes, like you said. Why do people care that they're group together? I, I, like, what's the reason? You're obviously making the assumption, or some assumption, or estimate that because they're grouped together. They're two completely different situations. Why do people care? You think being gay? I'm asking you.

I don't think people look at it and think being gay and being trans is the same thing. But they're grouped together. I mean, it's like, I guess, but I mean, that's like saying minorities are all the same, like black and Mexicans and Chinese people are all the same. I don't, I don't really see it as that serious of a thing. Yeah. I think what they identify with each other is that they're both like, their identity how they express themselves like sexually and and is different than the

mainstream and I think they as grouping together have like understand each other more than for example like people outside the group but I don't do I think it matters no I think people hate trans people because one they think that they're a lot of people think it's like a cult that's coming after their kids that's been again like you've heard this story about like a teacher with like a kitty box in the fucking kindergarten. Oh, yeah, yeah. But that's not real. Like that never happened, you know what I mean?

Are you sure about that? Yes. MPJ told me that story. It just, it never happened. And I think people get fired up. I think people get fired up though because like, no,

but the last thing way, I got to just get this out. Okay. Because I want to verify what I was saying is that when I think of LGBTQ, I don't think of gay. I only think of trans. Like, I don't know why. that is, but it's triggered in my head, like, I think more about the trans.

That might be a you issue. It's more of a topic. Are we sitting here talking about gays all the time? Are we talking about trans, right? I guess I don't, I don't care about how the class, I don't think it matters. If you're asking me, I don't think it matters. So you think they should just all, everybody group together? I think they can do whatever they want.

I don't think it matters. I don't think gay people being under the same like umbrella as trans people affects how people see trans people see i disagree with you i live in weho and i've noticed that there's a lot of gays that are like yo we're we're just guys that like guys like we are not getting these operations we are not the same as trans and i think that's actually a bigger issue that people don't that are trying to separate themselves from the whole thing yeah because they're like dude like i'm just gay like it's not that big of a deal you know like there's certainly gay people that um i've heard this that aren't going to identify with the trans movement yeah that's a whole thing right

because i don't i don't think the group means as much as you think it is okay i think it's just a way of referring to like a big broad general group of people i think the the big issue that people are having with this is it's not so much the gay thing it's it's or even so much the transgender thing i think it's more so the representation that they have in relationship overall and then when it comes to talking about it with kids and about how like they're they're trying to make it okay to have these conversations at such a young age when in in reality like where did we ever get to the point where transgender, gay, whatever, like heterosexual?

Why are teachers and people who have their own biases based on their own life and where they're at? Why are they ever having conversations about what a kid should or shouldn't be doing or should or shouldn't be thinking about their own sexuality? When in reality, they should just be teaching them math and science. So my, I think that's, can you, could you agree with it? My response to that is this.

That's where it comes from. So in the vast majority of cases you're describing would be inappropriate. however that what you described i don't think it happens that much i think it happens a few times but the fact that they're trying to pass laws they're trying to pass laws where i and i understand the idea of like well the conservative family is going to be really hard on this kid in the fact that if you if that happens one time that clip gets fucking 10 million views it might happen one time but i actually saw something like so it's not like it's not like a a symptom of a huge problem

i mean there's there's outliers in every community of people doing fucked up shit right but do you think do you think teachers adults 30 some year old people should be having conversations with children about their sexuality at all what are we talking about like sex ed i think sex ed's a good thing sex head yeah sex education's important but so so you think there should be those conversations where like a guy should be saying like yeah or a woman whoever oh yeah you could this is this is a thing like it should be you're saying kids shouldn't even know what trans i'm saying like at the those ages like we're talking about like eight nine 10 years old whatever where i don't think people i don't think adults should be telling them uh or encouraging them to express any certain identity that's i think

crazy yes and i don't think it happens though that's my point like it may it's probably it does happen a few times here and there we have 350 million people in this country like in classrooms all around the country you're not going to see that and so my problem is that in the national discourse it becomes this huge obsession. And it comes from a good place. Like, I want to emphasize that because I know generally your audience is probably going to disagree with me.

And I hope that having like a, just an open, kind of honest conversation about it, just expressing how I feel. Yeah. That maybe will at least make people think a little bit. But I respect that the reason that you guys, people do care is because they care about kids. So it comes from a good place.

But, like, it just, it just doesn't happen you know what i mean it's just not that big of a deal and it's sucking up people's attention and it's like dividing is creating a lot of chaos in our society and um i think conversations like this are really good because i don't think people who are like pro trans generally get like a good platform to express their ideas and why they think the way they do and stuff like a lot of what i see is just like incendiary like uh matt Matt Walsh doing a like a combative interview with like a trans activist and it's like it's always like so kind of over the top I'm not trans though so like obviously I can't even really speak

to a lot of what they deal with this is just the way I see it as someone who's like who is like I support trans people now should kids be transitioning like pretty much overwhelmingly no should teachers and adults be influencing them no yeah and I think that think most people think that that's the thing i think that's what's frustrating like we all agree on that so so you think it's more so like this divisive thing that is kind of just overall arcing and creating the circumstance what people think it is happening a lot more than it's actually happening but if it is happening at all i think if it's happening at all it's still a fucking problem like because like yeah like it's just a bigger problem than like school shootings

because that happens way more often from what i can see or like people having sex in the bathroom or people bringing weapons to school or people skipping school or people who are bullying at school like there's lots of bad shit happening all the time we should care about it we should care about all of it

but like it's not worthy of sucking up as much attention as it gets i agree 100% but that's the thing though it was like why why are we so focused on this then because it's like it's like fish chum it's just so juicy like it's so scandalous it attacks what we

most people care the most in the world is about our kids and um so it like it attacks what we care about and hold dear the most in the world right how our kids are being treated in public schools you know um being influenced and so it it turns into an ideological battleground you know do you think it ever changes or gets better or it just continues down this road of like divisiveness well let me ask you this i think that comes that's a deep conversation in politics Well, no, I don't think it does. I mean, go back to the 50s, being gay was classified as a mental disorder, and they were massively discriminated against, hated, victim of violence, marginalization.

So it wasn't even that long ago that being gay was considered a, like, mental disease. Yeah. It wasn't that long ago. It's so different, though, but yes. Well, it's... As more and more cases, like back then in the 1950s, a lot more people were definitely quiet about their sexuality if they were gay they weren't have ass comfortable come out but now

we're talking about operations also like there's a whole pharmaceutical like money thing to this like gender affirming care you saw Elon Musk had his thing where he talked about like yo my kid had puberty blockers he's not even my kid anymore yeah Elon

I feel like I would never talk about my child the way he talks about his talks about her like no matter what I find the way he talks about her is just vile and disgusting as a father of three kids i look at that and i say no matter how much i felt they were going down the wrong path or like betrayed me personally or whatever how he feels i just feel like you got to support your kids do you i agree with you she didn't do anything wrong hold on she didn't kill anyone she didn't rape anyone like i think that the whole narrative

there was a mom was really pushing it and you when you have a separated family it's going to be i i don't know that we're inner workings of their personal family dynamic Yeah. Like, I'm sure you and your wife agree on everything. Yeah, pretty much. You guys don't ever fight, do you? No, not that much. Like, if there ever was a house argument in the H3 House, what would it be about? Usually, well, it used to be about food because I was a big fat fuck.

That makes sense. And I would want, like, pizza or Mexican food, and she wants a salad, you know? But we have those fights less now. We don't, let's see, sometimes we fight about, like, who's getting the kid in the middle of the night not like fight but she gets annoyed at me my oldest kid my oldest is five my middle is two and our and our new our youngest is four months so it's a zoo over there talk about zoo culture we got three boys running around yeah that's crazy right now but it's good it's great i love being a parent and i would do anything to protect them right yeah so i respect where these where are you

guys if this is what you believe and people watching who i know believe that are coming from i respect where they're coming from. I feel like you having children has changed your entire outlook on what you do for a living. Yeah, that's probably true. I've changed a lot from having kids. Do you think, though, that there is something

to say about the sort of not, I don't call it, but just the talking of it and the speaking of it and the showing of it and like people seeing it on social media. Like, is there a part of it that? Flanting their sexuality or gayness? Yes.

Do you think there is some sort of thing that then does trickle down to kids who are on social media looking at and going, oh, this person is either getting, let's say, love or this person is getting this negative attention. And let's say in a case where they feel like, oh, this person is getting good attention. That then a kid thinks, oh, I want good attention. Maybe I'm a part, maybe I'm a part of this or I feel this way. Do you think there, that that happens? I feel like that's a different mental illness where you're willing to like change exactly who you are for positive attention. You know what I mean? So you think that's like a mental illness. Well,

Whatever that is, that's definitely something else. Can we all agree? Because you'd have to be pretty like, to be willing to be like, I'm going to go be with men who I'm not sexually attracted to or I'm going to go change my gender. Like, if you're willing to go to that extreme to get attention, like you've got something else going on, don't you think? Yeah.

But do you think that that happens? I mean, I think it's probably extremely rare, but I mean, yeah, probably happens. Yeah, I'm just saying there's like that's a, I think that's another thing that causes people to create like a lot of hate and divide. I think one thing that's different is, and I hate to say this, but we're all older. Yeah. So we grew up with flip phones.

How old are you? I'm 30. Okay. Me and Bradley are, we're old as fuck. I'm 39. Yeah. So Brad's 43. I'm 35, dude.

Jesus Christ. But if you really look like if when we were fucking in high school, we just had flip phones. I didn't have, I didn't have a phone. Yeah. I didn't have a smartphone until I was like done with college. But once, if your kid has a fucking iPhone at 11, 12, they open Instagram, you're seeing a lot of chicks. You're seeing a lot of shit. I think that that.

That is what's really starting to, like, create all these problems is, like, you're being exposed so easily. Like, I don't think I watched fucking even porn for the first time until I was, like, 13, 14. I even remember the first time I watched porn. You open your phone at 9. You could see only fans. Yeah, it's horrible.

I don't know how to... Huh? I watched it on a VHS the first time I watched it on. What do you watch? I watched it on dial-up fucking internet. We went to boobs.com, me and my brother. And it fucking, we waited, like, five minutes for it to load. When the titties came on, we're like, yeah.

Damn, I'm trying to think of my first sight ever, Red Tube. I watched that, I watched it. I was a kid. I just must have found a tape that my parents had. I, like, plugged that shit in. Was it like hardcore? No, it was, it wasn't hardcore. It was just like, honestly, it was, I didn't even get a good picture.

I remember it was being kind of like fuzzy. It was just like normal sex. Like, nothing crazy. Well, that's hardcore. You saw people having sex. Yeah. Oh, that's pretty gnarly. That's hard.

On the VHS. On your first experience, that's pretty hardcore. How old are you think? I had to be like. This is one of your addiction started. I had a problem. I had a problem for sure, which is why I don't watch it at all.

I had to be like eight or nine. Damn. Your parents should have hit the tape. Eight or nine. Yeah. They got to tuck that thing behind Harry Potter. Oh, I knew there was a gun somewhere too. I knew where the gun was.

I knew it all. That's sketch. But I was like, always just kind of like, this isn't good. So when you watched it, did it like below your mind? Do you remember?

Or was it like? I think the first time I watched it, I just watched it. It was like, what the fuck is this? I didn't like I wasn't playing with myself I wasn't doing none of that masturbating shit I was just like wow this is I didn't this is a thing a little bit so stupid bro um I like those do you not like those what'd you say played with his clit he's like he's making

fun of me like the clip big clit type shit she might have you're saying he's he might be having both yeah well we don't know we don't know we're gonna have to we're gonna have to we're gonna have to inspect your genitals bro we know what's your education level I have a bachelor's degree. Okay. In what? And English lit. Creative writing. What, what, this is completely change of topics. Whatever happened with you in Hassan. All right guys, quick and interrupt for the podcast, botanic tonics. Check this out. Lately, I've been trying to not stop caffeine, but get off my sort of caffeine. I would call it addiction. I don't want to call addiction, but a little bit is. And a lot of you guys probably understand this, probably energy drinks or coffee dependent,

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We just had the show. Like, I just, I couldn't do the show anymore. Just got, like, when the war started in Israel. His audience is, I think, like, way fucking left of where I am. Even more left. Way fucking left. Well, they're like, he's like a communist. He's a socialist communist.

And I think in general, these people are, like, I understand their point of view. But people were just really getting ink. very i think people getting really angry at both of us and for for me specifically it became like unhealthy it was bad for me and my family and my mental health and i didn't see a way that the show could continue going because i was just it was just got so fucked up because you guys were i'm assuming probably disagreeing on the whole i mean fuck no shit we definitely disagreed on well we disagreed on stuff like like is homas a terrorist group uh is right is like october 7th like justified, this kind of stuff, which is like, because I, for the most part, agree with most of

what they have to say, which is what's so frustrating, because I'm, I'm an Israeli citizen. I'm a dual citizen. I live there for five years. You signed a Leah? I made Alia, yeah. Wow. My wife is Israeli who lived together for five years and we moved to America. She's also a, wait, how many years you live in Israel? Five. Wow. So I feel like, this. Hmm? Oh, it was a, like 2000, I started YouTube when I was there, like 2010 to 2015, maybe. So I have, I feel like a really, I have an insight that I think a lot of people that talk about it don't have.

And it's personal to me and my wife in a way that it isn't to most people. So while I agree that like the Israeli government is just committing like horrific acts of violence and like I support like Palestinian sovereignty and stuff like that, like ultimately it's just it was never enough like sniko said he goes oh you're israeli your IDF you do genocide like there's a certain point where people don't even want to he's i think more extreme like i don't

think he represents the the majority of people but on that topic people it's like if you deviate at all then it becomes like you're you're no different than you know yeah that's the one thing I think about that's tough for them is every president we've ever had, both presidents we have running right now are very pro-Israel. So they're like, if they're very supportive of Trump, like, dude, Trump's probably the most pro-Israel president we've ever had. Yeah, which I find so ironic because in Michigan, like, in Dearborn and all these Arab community, or not Arab, Muslim communities are like, and a lot of progressives are like boycott

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. And I'm like, dude, Trump is going to be way worse for Palestinians than Kamala would be. Like, he doesn't give a fuck about that shit. You're right there. But you don't think he has interest in just, it's stopping? I think he does, but I think his method of stopping it would be like, just wipe the map. He would just give Israel a blank check to do whatever the fuck they want. So, like, Joe Biden at least has, like, he's made, in my opinion, a lot of efforts to moderate the, although

is America is supporting israel he has done a lot to try to broker peace to bring peace talks to the table to uh moderate their reaction to things and he's like sanctioned certain uh like some of the west bank violence so like yes he's supporting uh israel but he's doing a lot more to temper whatever violence is happening, then Trump would. Trump wouldn't give a single fuck. And I mean, the government that's in charge of Israel right now is really fucking nasty. Like, really, really nasty.

They just suck. Like murderists. And, like, I mean, some of the people in that cabin are definitely genocidal. And they're the worst types of people. They have a coalition right now that was formed. Netanyahu's like center right, traditionally. But the last election, he was going to lose

to the left party. and he was forced to make a coalition with what is essentially like the israel nazi party i don't like using that because it's like i would say like fascist like right like the israeli fascist party and so he gave a lot of power to um terrible terrible people uh just to preserve his own you know it was in trump's a whole whole idea was that he would have not allowed because he's because i saw him do an interview i don't know we'll talk about this too though if you have some time but the interview he did with aiding you got to extend your time spend the coolest pod yeah this is fine oh good i hope i hope yeah thank you i appreciate that no this is like a very rare opportunity to sit down with

you so we got to fucking so so so he did this interview with ad let me check with my wife is she gonna kill me if i stay tell her me and braddle fucking yeah you guys go have a date night like send i'll use some fucking yeah we'll find a babysitter or some shit yeah you have a sitter don't you sony can babysit yeah they leave it well our help leaves at five so that's when because take you tell her then we'll take care of the extra rate or I will personally. I don't think that's I don't think money is the issue. No, as a as a as a generous offer. Yeah, I appreciate that. So the like he's had this conversation and we could talk about a little bit but the aid in and interviewing Trump and he

was basically saying that if he was the president at the time sitting president that that it wouldn't have happened because the position that the Iranian government was in was wasn't in a position to be able to like fund the sort of violence that's going back and forth. So he was saying that, like, it wouldn't have even gotten to this point. I don't know how he could say that. I mean, that's just, like, based on nothing.

Everyone's going to say that. Every other... That's just silly. Politicians are going to say, this wouldn't have happened if I was in office. It's like, it's just so, like, outlandish as like, how? What do you mean? Like, how you would have stopped Hamas from...

Everyone will say that. Surprise attacking Israel. Even though I think he might have, but... Yeah, I mean, who knows? But, like, you know, I don't take it that seriously when he says that because who the fuck? You agree that he probably has a better relationship with other world leaders yeah

I mean it depends who like I don't it seems like they all fuck with him yeah because he gives them a lot of space like do you think Putin and jishing the leaders of China and Russia give a single fuck about anything but like any advantage they can get

for their own government their own like empire no but I think that's part that's part of every country in the world my suspicion is that they fuck with him because he's easy to manipulate if if that brings peace then is that it worth it well who knows where it goes i can't say it bring who knows what could that go both ways then because i don't think you think he's a kind of business

person that would be like here's all my hands i get nothing um like i don't think trump's that guy either i mean that's i think the whole idea about you know people are so dog listen i don't think his strategy of like being friendly with like kim jim jim and jiping and putin is terrible like i think there's some merit to like um trying to have decent relationship but the thing is these these countries are very adversary like under the under the surface there's a lot of shit going on where they're like intentionally trying to sow discord american uh society you remember when china flew that spy balloon over fucking america yeah like what they're always up to weird shit and china it

it's their goal to topple uh american homogene so that they can do whatever the fuck they want take Taiwan, expand into Asia. They, you know what I mean? Like, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, he wants to build a fucking, a, an empire. Trump. No, he's talking about Chi-G-G-G-G-P. And so like, I, there's ways to handle it on both sides, like being adversarial or friendly. I mean, who fucking knows what's the best way to do it.

I don't. This whole, uh, dude, this last two weeks just watching like politics. Insane. It's like you have Meg the Stallion in a cutoff, twerking, singing at the Kamala, and then Trump had Amber Rose. Like, it's just, it seems like, like, that's my thing with Kamala is like, I don't even know what the fuck she believes in. Because all you get pushed, all that's pushed on me is Meg the Stalian and Guavo.

Yeah, I think you're right. I don't think a lot of people know what the fuck. I think people just don't like Trump and they see her as, like, young. She does have a good professional record. She's 59. Which is young compared to these. He's old last motherfuckers. Trump's almost 80.

He's like, isn't he? He's like 79? He's 79, yeah. That's old as shit. But didn't you feel the same way about Biden when Biden was president? Yeah, he's old as a fuck.

He's old as a fuck. Yeah. I think our country's practice. That's how old. She announced today, her fucking VP. He's 60. He is?

Yeah. Because J.D. Vance is 39. Yeah. So he's younger, but. Obviously, age can't be the only determined. I mean, I think it's good. I like to see younger people in politics because I feel like this country

for the past decade. For the past decade. has been like a straight up gerontocracy where like old people hold on to power and they don't leave look at Mitch McConnell look at Nancy Pelosi look at Joe Biden these people are old they're in their fucking 80s and it's time for them to pass the fucking baton and sit the fuck out yeah like I'm so tired of these old motherfuckers not like like this is something I definitely agree with it's just I'm so over it and like they're they don't know what we go through they don't represent us they're they're all doing insider trading and all this fucking bullshit just entrenching their own power it's like you they're they're I I feel there should be an age limit on public office. Yeah. And I think it should be like 75 at most. Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, you're going to put it in...

75's so old. I mean, with all the peace and love to all the old folks, would you put an 80-year-old in charge of your business? Fuck, no. Yeah. You know, you sit down with an 80-year-olds. Most of them are kind of wacky, hard to even have like a straight conversation with.

Yeah, I agree. Let alone run the fucking country. That's the thing when Joe Biden exited, because he's old as shit he's like 72 or no 82 sorry then all of a sudden Trump's the old one now because 79 is old as shit

Trump's in good shape but he's so sharp man for 79 he's pretty sharp he slowed down a bit Joe Biden was looking pretty sharp at 79 by the way what way do you think he slowed down I've just seen like some of his recent speeches

and he seems lower energy than he used to be do you think that any part of like him doing the Aiden is he in a better mental place than Joe Biden was, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. But do you think there's any risk there?

Like, he did a live stream with Aden Ross. I thought that was really, it's crazy. I thought it was kind of a dumb political move. I disagree, but I think and I'll tell you why. Go ahead. I like, I got mad love for Aden and shout out. That's huge for him. But I also

think that, how can you say that when you see, like, Kamala's doing the same thing? Like, it's like they're competing against each other to get this young vote. Yeah, I don't think what Kamala's doing is smart either. But why is? I think that it's very different, but I think that Trump having the balls to go on a live stream, a live stream with a guy like Aiden, Aiden's what, 23?

Yeah, I think so, I believe. Like, there's some risk in that, I think. And you don't see any, like, we've had, kind of, I bet you they, on the full send probably, we've had Trump on. You don't see the Democrats come do that. I think he, I don't think he would go on. I'd have Trump on my show, are you kidding?

You know what I mean? Like, he's not going to come on my show. Like, I would love to. I don't think he's, I think they vet the situation and the environment, like, tight as a motherfucker. So everything Aiden was going to do, they went over it in great detail. Everywhere they were going to walk,

they went over in great detail. Everything they were going to talk about, they went over in great detail. I think it's a bold, I think it's cool, like that, you know, out doing what the young people do and trying to be cool like that. But I think the people he's appealing to

on Aiden's Twitch stream are probably already supporting him. It's like very much preaching to the choir. But you see how viral that shit go. like anyone who's on their phone saw that. I'm just not sure that, like, the president associating with, like, uh, Aidan Ross, who, I mean, he's just like a kid and, like, not a serious one either.

It just felt kind of goofy. Like, I feel that it could be used against him. But who knows? Maybe it helps. I don't think it was a terrible, terrible idea. I think everyone's trying. I think they're both trying. That's interesting.

You know what I, because the reason I brought that up is because I saw today the someone on an ex-tweeting, Kai Sanat needs to have. Kamala. I saw that, yeah. Like, imagine that. Yeah. That'd be bananas. That'd be fucking crazy. That would break the fucking internet. Like, I agree.

That would see that. Why, why is it always one-sided? You really just see Trump's really confident in himself and that's... I feel like Kai is more... He doesn't have like a political identity. So I feel like it might be able to influence more people than, I think Aidan Ross, because he's association with Andrew

Tate and all these types of characters is like pretty solidified on the conservative side of things and is already like kind of magged out yeah so i don't know i would love to see come on the thing trump needs to do is like actually get these young people who don't give a shit about to actually go and vote yeah that's the hard part have you ever voted no i'm voting this year though you've never voted no no you never voted i voted and i fuck and i'll tell you why i mean my overall feeling of politics no no no my overall feeling of politics is like not that it doesn't matter, but, like, I believe that things are going to be fucked the way that they're going

to be regardless, because it's like, I mean, picture this. We talk about, like, people getting in charge or getting in power. It's not just a singular person is determining everything. Like, yeah, maybe they could sway certain places. But, like, there is a greater conglomerate of people that are up there making decisions. You're talking about deep state? That's actually a bullshit. I guess. But yeah. You think that's bullshit? Yeah. You think that one person is dictating everything. It doesn't matter. Well, they have different. Voting, they're different viewpoints. For sure. And one I agree with Steinbe has a different reason and the other. I agree with Steinie that it matters.

I do believe it matters. But we have different branches of government. So we're talking about the presidential election. So the executive branch has a lot of power. He will directly appoint his cabinet members that run the whole departments. He'll assign the district attorney. Look at what Trump did. He assigned three mega conservative fucking Supreme Court lifetime appointments that are trying

to make abortion illegal throughout the whole country. Whether you believe that or not, My point is, like, the influence is undeniable. Like, Trump has solidified the Supreme Court as, like, mega-conservative for the next, like, 30 years. So, it does matter who... I honestly think it's cool, too. I think I did a thing this morning.

Dude, I think everyone should go vote. Absolutely. I think it's a cool and it's a really sick, like, opportunity and a right that you have. Dude, it's badass. We live in democracy. When you're on your ballot and you walk out of there, you feel like, damn, like, you're proud to be an American.

I think everyone should. dude we live in america it's fucking awesome yeah it's like look at what it's going down in venezuela right now they had a an election with a maduro yeah maduro yeah and he lost by a big margin and he's like nah fuck that yeah insane fucking i didn't see that yeah and china they have elections yeah why in russia they have elections ours work ours actually work you know for better people have a lot of criticism of it a lot to say about it but like ultimately it does work Is there any other stuff outside of, like, the sensitive topics that you are very passionate about? Um, I mean, I love my kids.

Outside of family. Like, now you're a family guy, right? My world is pretty small these days, to be honest. Like, I want to do a scenario where you would have to come and do something that I would want to do on, like, a Friday night. And then... You want to have a date? No, no. Just like, yo, you roll with...

Dude, why you have to turn... You want me to invite Jeff? Dude, you just said you want to take him on a date on Friday night. You want to go to a nice restaurant with me? You literally just said on Friday night. We will go to a nice restaurant, but there will be others involved. But I would like to. No, I'm not.

We could actually. We could bring Jeff with it too. We could do that too. Bring Jeff too. Yeah, Jeff for my crib. Yeah. Brad, you come, bring your clit. And then we'll do.

But I think we do, uh, you, you come out with us and we'll, because you call it like, obviously you've said like, yo, we're the broie douchebags, which you, I didn't say douchebags. but we are I may have applied it though I don't you applied it but I say broie

I wouldn't say douche bags so why don't we trade we do one night you come out and hang out with us and then we'll do some you know what I thought was really interesting I don't do lib shit I don't know what you think

I don't go to like gay clubs and stuff like I stay at home and I play video games that's literally my whole life what are you gaming right now I'm playing I'm addicted to this mobile game it's so pathetic

I sound like an age of origin type shit is it is it where you build the like the armies and stuff no it's called Survivor I oh and it's like it's just you just run around and, like, kill shit. It's so it's dumb. But right now I'm playing like Monster Hunter on PlayStation.

I like, like, Eldon Ring and all that types of shit. Oh, you play Eldon Ring. It's fun, man. It's so hard. I get into all of that stuff. I never played that. I played, we played the same shit, Diablo, Age of Empires. Oh, yeah, Diablo, I play a lot.

Diablo is fucking way. You play hardcore or not hardcore. Hardcore? No, I don't play hardcore. Really? That's crazy. What the fuck? That's the best way to play it.

I didn't play hardcore. You have to play hardcore. It's too hardcore. Because if you die, all your shit's gone. It's too hard. So sweaty. What do you want to do that? Because it's sweaty and you fucking, it's so much more fun that way.

I should try it, but I... Bro, it's so much, it gets you going. Like, it's way more fun. Yeah, I can see that. Because you can get popped and your shit's gone. We had this conversation on Brad's pod recently, but you very rarely see successful relationships. Yeah, it's a good one.

Where both partners are involved in the content. I can think of two. Yours and my boy, shout out Adam 22 and Len of the plug. They have a successful relationship. That's true. They do have a good. Whether you, yo, whether you want to throw shade or not, whatever you think about it, whatever you think about it, they are fucking happy. I saw them at a party a few weeks ago, and they had the time of their lives.

Yeah, that's true. So how hard has this been when you're both, like, working together, money's coming in, on camera, disagreements, whatever. So it worked really good for a long time when I was doing my show, like the H-D-H-R-D production stuff for years. there started to be more conflict because she didn't have as much to do as me and that just creates like a

imbalance you know that just like can cause resentments but I think what really turned everything around for us is when we started our clothing company Teddy Fresh so that's her full-time project and the podcast is my full-time project I see and we're so we do very much still work together

but like we're living very separate professional lives now and that has genuinely helped a lot. Interesting. Like we work right next to each other. We have like two buildings, one for her, one for us. But the tasks are unique to the companies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And we see each other and stuff but like... Did you bring her into this space? I'm not, I'm sorry, I don't know. We, no, we started our channel together. H3 H3 is our initials put together. You didn't know that. We're day one. I saw him roasting me and I was like,

I'm never watching this guy's shit out. No, that's fair. You don't have to go back and watch that shit. But yeah, we're day one. We made the channel together. It's pretty crazy. It's fucking insane. Because I'm trying to get into a more serious relationship.

I don't think there's any other couple like that, to be honest. Day one? I don't know. Anyone starting the content together? No. I think that's literally the only one. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. I mean, how it worked out.

Because we made that channel just for like shit posting for her like weird video. She had a video art class. and she this is how we started the channel there's this one dude in her video art class and she comes home one day and she's like oh this guy he's so good at acting he's so cool he can do any part and i was like man fuck that guy i can do that shit fuck that guy and so i's like man fuck that i'm gonna be in your videos now and literally that's how we started our channel that's dope the ego i love that there was no in the beginning fuck yeah i was like reading competitive of who's carrying more than the other no no not well i was always like the front man

So there was never like any... There you go. There's that in her alpha. You know what? Yeah, I love it. She is a woman. I was always trying to bring her in. Like, there was times when she would sit in with me

and then we ended up making our own channel together where we would react together. And I think it was nice. It was good bringing her on, but she's not... She does not have the same personality as me. She's not like... The thing that I think is so interesting about that is with Adam and Lennas, they're like trained at this point.

Anything negative? whatever, it's just block the fuck out. It's good because they get a lot of it. And I'm surprised how that doesn't affect, like, you're talking about, like, in the home, in the household. Like, sometimes it does. I mean, they've clearly made it, like, a very crazy decision that, like. No, but, I mean, in his regard, it's a different situation.

When we would go through a lot of, it could cause problems where, you know, it just feels really bad. But we've gotten through a lot of that, and I feel like we're at a really good, stable place now. Would you advise me if I'm like trying to date a girl who's also in the scene? Like is it going to be difficult for me if she does OnlyFans? Well, this is very serious. He's very serious about that.

I have no problem with OnlyFans. I think you should ask yourself that because I think the difficulty might come from some of the people in your life who would be judgmental about it. I don't think there's anything wrong with a girl doing OnlyFans. And would I date an OnlyFans girl if I was single? I mean, potentially I wouldn't rule it out. you know it's more about like compatibility and relationships and like shared values and stuff so i mean it certainly can work out of course it's just a matter of like do you trust her are you guys compatible you know or is your audience is your audience gonna fucking freak out you know

what i mean no they're gonna be stoked and she's probably gonna make way more money than i will yeah that's so that's that's the the serious question is like so what you're dating someone who's thinking about doing only fans or is only fans? Is. As a sudden you... I wouldn't say, I'd say loosely dating. My only question is always like, what does she sell? No, but that's, see, that's not the issue.

My issue is like... So you wouldn't care if she sold, like, her vagina. That'd be easier or would be harder? Because it's like, if you're doing that... You mean, that would be an issue for me. That would be, that's obviously an issue. And she doesn't do that. But my issue is like, fuck, if I want to post her on my story...

You know you're driving. And she's going to benefit. I'm driving traffic. She starts making money, like, how do I trust that that's still going to be an emotional relationship. I agree that that's tricky and I'm glad that I never had to deal with that. If I was single now in dating, I mean, it would be a lot more complicated and I'd be a lot more cynical and guarded for sure.

I mean, it's tough. I don't know. When you go out in public or do people come up to you a lot? It depends where I am, but yeah, for the most part. What age were you when you really like started to project? How old was I? Yeah. I was like mid, late 20s.

And were you married at that point? We got married. around the time we started yeah so you were pretty much but you were together at that point i was locked in yeah was there any party that was like yo i could adventure and try this other life is there a part of me that's like it'd be fun to date now that i like have a job and like people respect or like i don't know how much people respect me but like i have money like before i was unemployed you know what i mean so yeah it would be fun to go out and have like actual assets and not try to like i have to like work overtime to convince girls to like me

You don't have that problem right now. You don't have that problem right now. So, like, it would be fun, but, like, I'm not going to leave my wife. Of course not. I'm just saying if there ever was a point where you, like, thought about, like, fuck, like. I never thought about, like, I want to do that. Yeah, no, I just. You know what I mean?

Like I said, yeah, yeah. No, I think it's. Yeah, but I totally acknowledge that, like, it would be a totally different experience. Because I think that's also where we keep going back to it, but where, like, the initial, like, shitting on these guys was, like, the douchebag, single douchebag partying. using their whatever clout money to their advantage while you came up pretty much content in a relationship he's saying you're jealous no i don't basically i'm not saying that at all i'm just

oh is that what you're saying that's not what i'm saying it's just it's just so different no i don't and you know what's funny is most people are gonna respect and agree with the way that you did it probably i mean you know what's funny is that like all these conservatives and uh that i get a lot of shit from people like uh jim bros and people on tic talk but i'm gonna say is before you continue i'm not i you wore shorts today yeah it was the most gym bro thing you ever remember you said these are a high too remember shorts it was like that's like a juice bag gym bro thing yeah dude you fucking lost weight look at you yeah i'm right i'm showing them off now boy i fucking love it um what was i saying i don't care if you're single or married but i was saying it i think it's funny because like i have the most

traditional like christian value type of life you know yeah of like anyone i have like kids i go home I spend time with my wife and my kids I take care of my dogs That's it And I think it's funny that people like Sneco, whose like personal life is like Just turmoil and judgment and just like hate And shit

And like I have the most traditional fucking life That you could ever have Am I judgmental? Single people? No, of course not No I think it's fun I think I'm I'm What I have fun being like single and going out and drinking stuff I don't think so I mean I'm 39

But Leo's fucking health It's Leo DiCaprio. Well, that guy's been doing this shit for fucking 30 years, maybe, though, isn't it? He keeps dating 24-year-olds, like, at a certain point, people are starting to be like,

this guy's weird. That's... I mean, I'm not going to touch on that because Leo's goaded, but there is... You know, you won't even... There's the narrative of, like, the under-25-year-old

shit that we all see. Dude, different lifestyles are good for different people. Like, if he's happy, then I think it's awesome. Yeah. I don't think I would specifically be happy doing that.

So then that's what I really I think everyone should live whatever life makes them happy people should be happy and do whatever makes them happy I always think about what that includes being trans or gay or whatever it's part of it's part of that ethos where I'm coming from but I always think about this and I think about it honestly daily at this point is like how many people in this space are actually happy because it seems pretty fucking it's hard I there's a big part of my career where I was just just um depressed as fuck like just abjectly uh disha unhappy you know and um i feel like there's a firewall of sorts in the creator space where like you become popular you start to make money you start to get attention

and there's like right there there's a passage of like does that destroy you where you can't continue which happens to a lot of people are you going to figure out a way to like now you have to make it sustainable and in a way where you're not so fucking miserable that you dream of like moving to a monastery or some shit you know what i mean yeah um so it i'm sure a lot of creators are stressful because it's so hard commanding the judgment of like so many people everyone's got all these different um opinions about you in your own fan base even and it can really fuck with you i stopped reading most of it the way i think about it that helped is like when you're hanging out with like a homie and you're talking about like a mutual friend let's say like you would

potentially talk way more harshly about that person with your friend than you would like in front of them because you understand like you might be more harsh than you don't actually mean it and you guys kind of understand like uh that he's your friend and you love him and stuff if he heard you guys talking like that he would be deeply offended right i feel like these in these internet conversations are kind of like that like i'm not meant to be a part of these conversations And so I try not to take them personally, although it's not always easy. It's not easy to always do that. But the other thing I think about with you, too, is you've been sustainable.

You've been doing this for what? How many years now? Full time? Probably like fucking 15 years, maybe? There's no part of you. Like, this is now life and you've never been like, fuck. I don't want to disattention and shit. No, there was.

There was times where I wanted to quit. How did you figure it out? So one of the big things was changing. what we did one of the big things was my wife getting a new focus where she was doing her own thing and one of the biggest things that I'll say shout from the top of the roof that changed everything for me

and the best way possible was starting antidepressants really those motherfuckers changed everything for me I'm so opinionated on this I know I hate pills well I am too actually I hate pills I think they're really bad for people and I've never been on antidepressants I'm talking about different types of goals.

So, like, the anti-person I'm on is Lexa Pro. I'm happier. I'm healthier. I'm making better content. I'm, like, feel more myself. Yep, every morning. What's your downside or what's your criticism of? I guess it was just, it's just the thought that you don't, you, do you believe that there's

no other way to get to that point happy, like mentally without that? I tried for a long time, many years, and I wasn't getting anywhere. I remember we kind of spoke about this before. I genuinely did it. a last resort like it was i had him next to my bedside for like six months i was i was scared to take it right he's apprehensive you know what but i was just at i felt like the lowest point and it it for me felt like um something that i had to try otherwise and you got you have to just quit youtube and fucking disappear you got your blood work done you've seen that your hormones were

good i get i'm like regularly testing and doing all this stuff right so So your testosterone wasn't low, yeah. I think that's a fear that people have, though, is like, if I have to resort to pills, that's a sign that maybe... You feel weak and that you weren't able to do it yourself. And I think with a lot of guys, they see that as threatening their masculinity in some ways. Or as a man, and I have that too, you want to be able to do shit for yourself, right? And you don't want to feel weak and, like, you failed. But the thing is, making that decision is actually hard.

It was a really difficult decision for me to make. to make the decision to like get myself the help that I needed and that I deserved and it fucking helped me so damn much like I'm a big proponent for it just because like I can speak to how much it changed my whole outlook and my ability to like just live and be but like it's not for everybody the thing with antidepressants is the one I'm on lexpro SSRIs they just like increase the serotonin in your brain a little bit that's all it does just gives you a little extra serotonin that's all and um it's non-addictive you can stop taking it you can taper off it and be totally fine you know it's there's antidepressants like one of the most clinically studied medicines

in the world um and they're very well understood in that regard and um you know they're well studied and well supported by medicine and medical groups, psychiatry is, uh, how long you've been on those? Shit, I've been on it for a while now. Probably like six years. You think it changed your life completely? Completely.

Fuck, bro. Completely, dude. Just, I don't know. I've had so many friends that had like Xanax, Adderall. Well, okay, so Xanax is a habit forming drug. Yeah, completely different. Zanx. I've seen what that's done to people.

It's just makes. So I had a Xanax prescription. when I was like going through my anxiety and I had to tell the doctor stop giving it to me yeah because I was just like using it recreationally and Xanax is really bad for you like physically yes so very bad so like there's a addictive I don't put like antidepressants and like psychiatric drugs in the same realm as like um like street drugs sure you know it's just totally different yeah because like you don't feel anything when you take the antidepressant it's just not addictive and it's not habit for me that's another thing and this is a different

conversation but i think that's so interesting is like how doctors prescribe like nine and ten year olds adderol that i'm very much against frankly like why is that a fucking thing bro i've caught shit for that because i lateral fucks with your head adderol is a hard drug bro yeah i've taken that shit and it goes crazy i i've taken it a lot not that much i would do it a lot i've taken it a good them out. I would do anything that I could in my power to, like, not give my kids something like Adderall until they were, like, an adult. Yeah. But the thing is, like, according to medical research and stuff, so the thing is, if you are really hardcore ADHD, like, it can have such a negative impact on your life that the Adderall, this is what I understand from the

medicine can actually does actually help like it does end up being a net benefit um but like for me you know it's just i've taken it and i know it's just such a hard drug like it really fucks you up i had a family member who was prescribed it when they were like this isn't me i swear to god but when they were like 1112 yeah not even not even probably 12 or 13 but like they would have that come down and it'd become a different turn into a monster and i'd be like bro get off this shit like who gives the fuck if you're you focus in school for one more hour of the day like after that you got to turn into a psychopath like

it's just that's something I've never wrapped my head around is how do kids get their hands on speed? Sounds very personal well so I didn't need AdRall and I'm being honest I went through school I have a bachelor's degree took my LSAT like I fucking was very studious

but I did have somebody I only take it recreationally now yeah like I take it to party I'm pro recreational I'm being honest like don't get me wrong here for studios reasons. I'm pro recreational drug use. Don't get me wrong. Yeah. Fuck around and have fun. Have you done ayahuasca? No. Okay, I'll do all do I was both of you. I'll do it. I'm not. I'm not done shrooms. I've done shrooms a lot. I've done acid. I've done MDMA was always my favorite drug. Dude, I don't know why I just feel like if I ever ran into you'd be at like a fish concert.

You know what? And you'd have like a tie-dye shirt and I see why you think that, but I'm so like out of the psychedelic drug phase of my life you know what i mean really i'm just like have i'm like not interested anymore yeah well with ssr i can't really fucking fuck around with that anyways at this point that's yeah you can't you're not even supposed to drink on it or yeah take any psychoactive drug i think a lot of people who who like have bad experiences with it are people who continue to take drugs recreationally definitely like i had a friend who was begging me he's like don't do it try please don't do it like I went on antidepressant once and I wanted to kill myself and it was horrible but I'm like this I'm sure this dude was taking like all kinds of drugs

when he was on at like acid MDMA drinking like he so you can't do that you got to like you have to be serious you got to be serious about it yeah and for me it's all been worth it you know but the thing about ADHD medicine and antidepressants is like everybody so different that I've learned not to be too judgmental about how people consume medicines and the situations people are in because look there are going to be situations where kids are going to benefit from taking adderall which seems crazy to me but like I looked into it because I felt the same way and from what I've learned is that like it it can net benefit so you know what I mean it's kind of crazy but like you know some families just get so fucked up like if your kid is like mega

ADHD like it can really tear a family up like it just caused like a ton of turmoil and so you know at a certain point it's like how how can we judge this family and this child and what they're going through and say like oh I can't believe you're doing that to your kids you know what I mean yeah I mean I think it can also especially if a doctor tells you like this is what you should for sure not like I don't always trust doctors though I guess that's like a new face now I do. I chose doctors. When it comes to prescribing pills. Doctors are awesome.

Well, they're going to be the... You're talking about a different thing, bro, when you're comparing, like, health, physical health to mental health. No, no. Well, they're all doctors. No, it's just doctors in general with the prescription of drugs.

It's a profit business. I mean, you've got to find a doctor you trust. Some doctors are weirdos, you know, like any profession, but it's important to find a doctor you trust because they're fucking smart and well trained and know a lot. You know what I mean?

And they take oaths that they need to do no harm. So, like, I think for the most part, the vast majority of doctors are extremely well-intentioned, you know, good folks. But, like, there's also doctors that, like, sell, um, fucking, uh... Promethazine. They sell, what's it called, fentanyl to drug dealers. Like, you know, there's doctors out there to do that shit. What is that? What is that being said?

What is that being said? Lean, boy. Lean, brother. have you done it before or not I've tried to get fucked up on I've done it I've done it one time I've done it one time is crazy bro one time's crazy

I swear on my life one time's insane three times max oh no that's easy I don't so I got like a bottle Have you come to a studio session with me What is a studio session

Like a rapper when they have like a studio session Why are you at the studio Because it's fun and like We'll film there And who do you go with Why do they invite you Dude up

You know, I love these questions Why do they invite you? I mean, where do I fucking start? Yeah, right. Please start from somewhere. Yeah, no, the first time I ever went. Yeah, he's funny, Doc. That was good.

I noticed, I just noticed a rapper one time in a hotel lobby in L.A. Yeah. And I was like, yo, I'm a huge fan. Like, I'm in the YouTube space. And I was working for Steve at the time. This was 42, Doug. And he was like, you guys should come check out the studio. That's cool.

And you go in, it's like a whole. it's an experience it depends on each rapper yeah but they there's some that are very passionate and some are parties but it's a it's a fun ass time i used to spend a lot of studio time with post malone we were used to there you go that's dope so what does his session look like and i'll tell you um he's probably more like i think it's like half half probably i think his is less crazy more like passion they were definitely having fun there but like yeah i think they were focused on work yeah what work what uh was he working on at the time he was it was so long ago he was about to release like he hadn't even dropped his first album i think he was working on

his first album no way yeah it was a white irison days damn yeah that's pretty fucking cool we connected a long time ago over what he was a fan of mine damn and um um one of his people reached out and I forget who and I was like yeah sure I'll connect with them and we just hit it off that's cool he wasn't really huge at the time either and like over that course of time he went crazy

move the fuck up yeah I remember once we went to Olive Garden together and it was like nuts he talked about Olive Garden yeah he talked about it on the full scent pod forever he loves Olive Garden that's hilarious is Olive Garden still exist yeah rare I do not going there now Mr. Skinny You're not getting the fucking, what is it,

endless bread or some shit? Oh my God, so much good bread. No, I can't do that. Yeah, I don't. They got good salads and shit there. Yeah. Okay, what's your go-to cheat meal? And I'm going to rate you on this.

I have always loved, and I will never change hamburgers and pizza and French fries. Yeah. My go-to's Papa John's. What about dessert-wise? Papa John is fucking the best. What about dessert-wise, though? Dessert? Yeah.

I'm a fucking monster. I love it all. God, I just like, I'm a big, like. You don't even eat dessert. Well, no, I'm a big like. Box me up, mint and chip ice cream, I'll go nuts. You just, I'd like the, you know, like the bazuki type desserts? There's Weight Watcher Popsicles that have 100 calories.

I swear to God. Stop, Jesus Christ. We're called, yeah, do they have cookie dough and mint chocolate chip? Oh, yeah, so? Yes. Those are fuck, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Wait, watchers go.

Well, you guys just connected on something real. No, those are the best shit. The cookie dough ones. I want to fucking. Yeah, the cookie dough is so good. Why are you going to pound him up for cookie dough, not me for fucking lean? Have you been there? Pound me up for lean, brother.

But I don't believe if you're telling me or not, I can't tell still. I have taken, I've drank a whole bottle of codeine. That's not good. But I don't know what lean is. Is that what lean is? Yes, I did it. The first time I did it, I tried it at a studio session, and I fucking literally slept from like 11 p.m. until 4 p.m. the next day. That means you, that's how you go.

And I was like, yo, dude, I don't know what it is. That's so cool about this, but it's not for me. I used to be a pill addict. I was addicted to Tramodol when I was in Israel. Tramadol. Pain killer. Yeah, painkiller. Damn, what the fuck?

Get into that. You had an injury. No. I started it recreationally. Just random. Tram at all. Yeah. What the fuck?

That's why when you talk about not being scared about antidepressants, if you've had a history or you've taken pills recreationally, why that wouldn't scare you off a little bit. It did. It was different for me because recreational drugs. You'll never take antidepressants recreationally, I guess. No, you would never. You get no benefit from it. You don't feel anything.

It's like, you know, it's like you don't feel anything. And it takes months for it to even start working. How'd you get into Tramadol, though? So in Mexico and Thailand, it's legal. Yeah, sure enough. My parents lived in Mexico for a long time. So I thought I would always go to the pharmacy and just see what they had because it was kind of fun and silly.

And I would just pick up all the crazy shit. Yeah, where's the, deep down you really are, bro, dude. I don't, I don't, I don't, you're one of us, my friend. Bro, I, listen. We're talking Mexico pharmacies. Yeah, I want to see you in line there. Bro, I'll tell you, a Mexican pharmacy is my happy place, dude. Yeah, that's a scary place.

You can get anything there. You can get a fucking food menu there. Yeah, anything you want. Actually, no, but now that I think about it, the first time I took it was my friend. He lived in Lebanon, and it was legal there, too, and we met to have a trip in Greece, and he gave me some. And I was, I was like, this shit is so fun. And it is. I've tried a lot of painkillers, but Tramidal

is like last super long in a good way. Yeah. And it's like fucking awesome. The only time I've ever taken painkillers is when I get my wisdom teeth out. Yeah, it's normally when they prescribe Tramidol. I fucking... They gave me Vicodin, but I didn't like the Vicodinan,

but the Tramidol was what-up. It took all of them and fucking gambled on college sports and had the worst gambling loss I've ever had in my life. For real? How much did you lose? 20 plus. 20 Gs? Yeah. That hurts.

Yeah. Because I couldn't move. from the couch and I was just sitting there firing every game trying to get it back. Oh no. And then you just keep like Vicodin, new fire, Viking and new fire. So that wasn't for me. But like it was bad obviously like as I did it for years like the addiction started to become more and like the high was less fun and it was more just like I needed to have it.

And I was like making me, I had a full-time job at the time like an office job. It was hard. Everything was hard. Sleeping was hard. Everything felt just bad. when I wasn't on it because you get dependent and you're the withdrawals for real and I actually finally went off it when I ran out because I brought back like 2,000 pills from Thailand which is one of the dumbest things I've ever did you got through customs

no problem yeah the dumbest thing I've ever done going through customs I was yeah because like if they caught me I'd go to jail for like decades yeah because it was they have intent to sell and all that probably yes dude I but I had bought thousands I had thousands. They would have had me on tent to sell easily. Even though ironically, I didn't want to I was all for me. Well, maybe it's a blessing in disguise that I wasn't caught. Oh, I thought you didn't get him through. Bro, he would have went in Thailand jail. I got him through. You took all three of them back. He went through 2000? Yeah, bro. I went to Thailand and I bought thousands of these trammals and I brought it back to Israel and and thank God, bro. I didn't

they didn't like find it. But I had thousands and last to me. I was, was giving it out to people. We were all doing it. It was like ridiculous how much I had. And after like two years, I ran out and that was it. Good. At least you got off it. It's funny.

I always think about when I walk into the, not that I do it, but when I was in college in Cabo, spring break, when you go into the pharmacy, dude, imagine the chaos in America if you could go and buy that kind of over the counter. Oh, man. Yeah. Like, why is that? I think, I don't know. Yeah.

It'd be so fucking heavily abused. here that it would be like that's obviously why we don't have it but i think there i don't know why yeah in mexico i don't think people go and just buy tram little i don't think that's a thing but i don't know why i mean there's a culture in america of like i mean there's a real opioid epidemic going on and i don't that's a lot to do with like the drug companies and the doctors and shit there was like a whole i mean they lost massive lawsuits the the uh oxycotton family yeah forget their name because they were doing really shady stuff and they were pushing it when they knew they shouldn't they were getting it like prescribed for things that it wasn't relevant to so they were like pushing out this

mega addiction out on like our populace and i think a lot is trickling down from that that's why i feel that way i've said about doctors in general just because of that sort of shit yeah where i know it's not just in the best interest i guess i like my doctors you know yeah i like And obviously it worked for you, so it's hard to... But in these days, doctors won't give you shayette because of the epidemic. Like, I can't even get a Vicodin anymore. That's good. They're like Motrin.

That means it's working. You don't need those anymore. Motrin definitely... Motrin is a fucking easy. Motrin is just ibupon. Yeah. I took one, Advil PM last night. That shit works.

That shit works. I woke up in fucking five and stayed up. By the way, that... Thinking about, yo, how am I going to go at H-Tigger day? Yeah. I know you were thinking about it. Let's watch some clips. Wait, I had a couple saved on.

TikTok, let me look at him. I gotta leave. Dude, it's five. You crushed it, bro. That was fun. That was fun. I hope that was really good. First of all, I'm glad we connected.

Dude. Isha, you're the fucking man. It was fun. This was honestly a really cool podcast. You're cool. I'm always bros with Bradley. I know you're a good dude and I love. And although we come from different places, I think it's really good that we can talk about

these things. Like, I think it's great. Absolutely. And even though there's a lot of people that are watching that are going to disagree with me on a lot of stuff. I hope that, like, they can at least respect the conversation that we're having. Okay, and the last thing is you're going to come out with us one night and we'll come to yours for like... You coming out on my night is like...

No, but it'd be funny. I don't do anything. Imagine a video like that of H-3 comes with us on night. You know, boys, an H-3 collab. Dude, it's, let's try it. I'd go out for a crazy night of drinking with you guys. Dude, let's do it, bro. That would actually be...

Because I'll get fucked up when I drink. And you'll go there. Yeah, that's the problem. So you'll enter a... Give me that. I'm gonna show Steve what's up okay let's do it let's do it no dude this has been amazing yeah thank you so much man yeah it was really fun that was dope thank you stony yeah all right thanks for coming appreciate you buddy okay cool