RAWTALK - Hamzah Pali on Confronting Israelis, Trolling IShowSpeed & Almost joining FaZe Clan

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

On This Episode Of RawTalk, Bradley Martyn Sits Down With Hamzah Pali And Talks About Growing Up Palestinian, His Viral Omegle Debates, Nelk’s Netanyahu Interview, Almost Joining FaZe, Trolling IShowSpeed, Getting Swatted, And Much More! Sponsored by: Nutrafol Visit Https://www.nutrafol.com & Use Code: RAWTALK for 10% OFF Your 1st MONTHS SUBSCRIPTION & FREE SHIPPING! Sponsor RAWTALK: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/rawtalk SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339 FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalk TIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalk FOLLOW BRADLEY: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartyn SUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1 SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1 SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1 RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dude, well, thank you for coming out. Of course. This is a good one. This is a beautiful one. I've seen a lot of your content. Obviously, you know, you talk about political stuff. Do you, do you like spend time trying to like understand the whole landscape of it? Yeah, yeah, in terms of mainly about the Middle East and Palestine.

And, you know, nothing more than that, to be honest, just because this is what I care about more than anything. As, you know, not only as a Palestinian, but also as a human. I think this is a human issue. So it's something that I care very deeply about. And actually, you know, I also go into Sudan as well in Congo and Yemen and other humanitarian issues. And I think the forefront of everything that I have noticed in the Middle East is Israel. Like that's the problem from what I've seen. So yeah.

It's interesting. Yeah. It's interesting because in all the conversations regarding it, it's always like on the other side of this conversation, it's always reactionary. Everything is we're doing this because we're defending ourselves. This is happening to us. That's why we're acting this way. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I mean, it's, you'll see a lot of reactionary things coming from Palestine because they're the ones being attacked. You know what I mean? I mean, like October 7th, for example, is a reaction to the 20-year-old blockade that was, you know, instilled on the Palestinian people. And that's, is that what you're talking about? more of like... Well, yeah, I mean, I mean, obviously I just want to start the conversation. Yeah, obviously we know like probably the title thumbnail, whatever, like it's obvious we're going to go in this direction. But yeah, before we get into this specifics, what got you,

obviously, besides the fact that you are Palestinian? Because I'm assuming you didn't grow up in Palestine. I didn't. So I was born, I'll get more into detail later, but I was born in Jersey. I lived in Dubai for five years and then Abu Dhabi for five years. So the UAE for like 10. And then I moved to Oklahoma for six, seven years. I don't know why I had to throw six, seven in there, but it happens. I hate it just done. I hate every time I say six or seven because they're consecutive numbers, I feel like I'm doing a mean, but I'm not trying to do the mean, bro.

Yeah. And then I've been in Houston for like five or six now. So yeah. But no, I didn't grow up in Palestine, but I visited like every single year. So it was since you were young? Yeah. Yeah. The last time I visited it was 2023 before October 7th.

And obviously since then, you know, since my content has. really taken off in terms of like the Palestinian content. Yeah, it's massive. Yeah, I can't go back now. So you're like a, you're like a savior over there. Yeah. Yeah, I mean to the Palestinians,

but yeah, yeah, I'm like destroying their country single-hand at least. And I have to be careful. Well, it's, it's just so crazy. I'll,

because I'll watch some of the clips. Yeah. And like, what's the main thing that started to blow you up was you're just like, they're talking to people who are from Israel on like Omega. Yeah.

I'm on Omega. So there are two different websites. One's Omega, which shut down a few years ago, actually, like literally two weeks after October 7th. And then there's another one called omi.com, which is very similar. But instead of tags where,

because on Omega, you type a tag and you meet up with those people, you can select by country of who to meet. So I'll select Israel. And, you know, they'll just start popping up. Yeah. All right.

So before we get into these details, you've been there. What was your, like, perspective of it when you went there or when you were younger? until where it's gone now. Yeah, in terms of Palestine. Yeah.

So I was always, like, you know, even though I didn't grow up in Palestine, as I mentioned, I visited almost every year, every few years. I've been there over a dozen times at this point. And I'll go there for my mom's nonprofit. My mom has a nonprofit for Palestine where we plant olive trees in Palestine because they keep getting uprooted by the Israeli military. So we have to keep the olive trees going because that's a part of our heritage. It's a part of our culture.

So we keep that culture and heritage that doesn't exist. Yeah, but Israelis, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy. And we've been here for hundreds of years, man. Like thousands, you know what I mean? Like we, Palestine has been a thing for as long as I can remember. But like, as long as you go, like, it's been there for hundreds of years,

but we aren't just Palestinians. That's what people forget to mention when we talk about Palestine is that we're made up of the people that inhabited the land over thousands of years. We're not one people. Like we're not just Palestinian. We're also ancient Hebrews. We're also Greeks, Phoenicians, Romans. We're a part of everyone that inhabited the land.

So just to answer that, like, when people say, no culture, whatever. Well, that one's always funny too because whenever I think about, like, whose land is it rightfully, I'm Italian and I'm like the Roman Empire took up all of that. So I think it's, we own all of that shit. Like, when are we taking that back? Yeah, exactly. That's where it gets all like. That's where it gets a little dumb, though, right? It's like that that's their claim.

That's their claim. It's like it's as if you said, you'll let me take that back because I'm part Italian. Like the Roman Empire was there. It's mine. Well, they had everything too, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The whole, all of Europe and the Middle East. That's literally their claim, bro.

And it's crazy. The Palestinian claim, we don't ever claim to have a bigger claim than anyone else. Like we, as a Palestinian myself, I don't think one claim supersedes one another. I don't think one claim to the land means. more than another person's claim. But, you know, if you do look at it, at who lived there the most consistently, who lived there the most, and most consecutively, like the years throughout, you know, history, it's the Palestinian people.

And who are the most recent people there that had a culture, that had a, you know, that had music, food, just theaters, their own newspaper in 1911 called Palestine and Arabic, Palestine, which was before Palestine was, you know, recognized, and it still isn't really recognized. It's recognized as occupied Palestinian territories. But that was like before Israel. I was like 30 years before Israel, right? We had a newspaper called Palestine, you know. So, yeah, I mean, we've been around. So the biggest thing is like this, this argument between like this two state thing. Yeah. Do you believe that Palestinians want a two state? I think if it's a real two-state solution, I think it's a conversation to have,

but I think Israel has lost their right to have a two-state solution at this point. Because they have quote-unquote offered us, if you hear the Israeli argument or the Zionist argument. They've quote-unquote offered us, you know, what, seven or eight peace treaties throughout the years, and we've always said no. But every single one of those peace deals is missing something very critical, very important, that stops us from becoming a nation state like any other, like our own military, our own currency,

the acknowledgement of the Israeli settlements in the West Bank that are illegally there and just so many different things. Yeah, that's the thing that trips me out, I'll see all these videos of these people just like in the countryside somewhere, just like, and I watch this because like, I don't know, I'm not there.

I know all the details. Yeah. But I see it and it's like, these people that are just like, yeah, this shit's mine now. Like, it's how, dude, yeah, that's how it is. Like, you can be,

from Brooklyn, as long as you're Jewish, you could take a Palestinian home in the West Bank. There are nearly one million illegal Israeli settlers in the West Bank. There's around 700,000 of them. And they are literally taking Palestinian homes. It's not even a joke. It's a home that was inhabited by Palestinians. They are kicked out, replaced with Jewish people. And because they're Jewish. And by the way, we'll get into that. I don't think this is a Judaism problem. I don't think this is a Jewish problem. I think this is a Zionist problem. And this is Israel conflating the two on purpose to, you know, get the world against, like, oh, now it's anti-Semitism if you're against Israel, you know?

But that's a whole different. Oh, yeah. No, no, you're not wrong, man. I mean, that's the frustrating thing is like, as an outsider looking in, as I've watched everything and, like, you just watch, you know, political pundits speak about this or speak about that. And then every time there's like, exactly what you said, this conflation of the two things, like, they'll say, someone says something like, this is, this is bad or this is good.

Doesn't matter what it is. Yeah. The thing that I always hear is they'll go, oh, I don't like what Israel is doing. Someone says that. They go, oh, you just don't like Jews. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, bro, like what? They connect the two completely. Yeah. And I do, I do genuinely believe like after seeing it so much, it's like clearly this is on purpose. Because in that case and in that situation, which you're then going, oh, you just don't like Jews so you don't want this to happen. You're, you're rallying all Jews to be like, oh, we have to defend ourselves and they're against me. But it's like, no, like these people or these, This group could be against the fact that what these specific Jewish people are doing, they feel is wrong. Yeah, it's not because they're Jewish, it's because of what they are doing. They could be Muslim, Christians, atheists, regardless of who they are. The fact that they are killing children, occupying a land, is wrong, and that's why we're against them. It's not because they have the Star of David as their flag, which also helps them, helps them conflate the two, obviously. But it's not because they're Jewish.

It's not because they follow Judaism. By the way, a lot of them are secular, right? That's not the problem. The problem is what they are doing. Do you ever see it? Like, where do you see this going? Because recently, I don't know if you saw or how like tapped in you are with like politics, but just yesterday, J.D. Vance said something.

This is one of the groups. You know, I saw this on my way here, but I didn't listen to it. But is he bashing Netanyahu? Yeah. So, so let me preface this. For the last like, it feels like year. All the politicians are kind of like in the current administration are saying the same thing like, oh, they got to defend themselves.

So saying the typical things. Yeah. Now this one, and there's one more of Trump that I really want to pull up. And this is the thing that always blew my mind, because I would see these pictures of like the entire Gaza, like just what used to be the Gaza Strip. Just rubble. Just rubble. And it's like I don't even have to, I don't even have to think about religion.

I don't have to think about anything to just see and go, okay, in my head, I go immediately, this is just, I know this is wrong. I don't have to know left or right to know this is wrong. wrong. Yeah. And then I go, the business side of me is like, all right, who's cleaning up this mess? How much are they getting paid to clean up this mess? What are they putting in? How long is it going to take? Yeah, but also like how much money are they going to now dump into the re, like building this again and who gets it? Who gets those contracts? Exactly. There's so much money around this. And what happens to the two million people without homes? What are they? They're going

to live in tents for the next, you know, decade or two. But that's the crazy thing. So for a very a long time they just sort of justified it as this is defense and there's just apparently everyone is a terrorist and there's terrorists everywhere. Yeah. They killed more children than quote unquote terrorists. You know what I mean? Like it's, uh, they've killed over 30,000 children confirmed. I mean, that's not even, I mean, it's like 20 or 30,000 confirmed, not including those under the rubble, not including, like there was a report by the Lancet. If you look at it, they, there are nearly half a million people in Palestine and in Gaza specifically that are missing. And that's not being reported at all.

No one's talking about that, you know. Yeah. And this is what I find interesting. The reason why I'm making this point. Israel is fighting Hezbollah too long and too many people are being killed. And you don't have to knock down an apartment house every time you're looking for somebody. Because there are a lot of people in those apartment houses. And they're not all Hezbollah that I can tell you.

And I suggested to Israel to let Syria take care of Hezbollah. Because to be honest with you, I think they do a better job of them. doing it. Okay. So it's interesting how all of a sudden it's not because it's not as if this is brand new. Yeah. Right. Because now they're going into they're going into Lebanon. They're like defending themselves out of their country now. Yeah. As they would say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And now they're blowing up buildings in Beirut and different places in Lebanon. I think Trump is tired of this as well. But I don't know. I do think regardless of what he just said there, I mean, he could literally say Free Palestine, it is too little too late at the end of the day. I mean, he has been

complicit not only in this genocide, but he was complicit in, you know, continuing the occupation of the Golan Heights in his first term and also making Jerusalem the capital of Israel, which basically took away any chance of Palestinian statehood. But I think with this clip specifically, in terms of like the apartment building stuff, yeah, I mean, he's, that's also not wrong. He's not wrong about that either, right? There's, uh, like I think he's also seeing like for one but the thing is it's not Palestine right that's why I think also it doesn't he's not necessarily like censoring himself fully it's uh it's not Palestine you know yeah but you see so the the the the funny thing about it is I mean nothing's funny about this but

yeah yeah the and I'll play a J.D. Vance clip in a second here but the the initial reaction from I guess what we would call Zionists are just like now you've betrayed us yeah of course because if you're, oh, if you're not going to let us bomb buildings without, you know, without basically indiscriminately, yeah, indiscriminately bombing buildings and to the ground, then yeah, you're against us. That's how they, that's how they're, like, how. Well, they're, insane. That's just what it is. They're crazy. I know, I know. And, but I'm telling you what I think this is, I think is this is like getting to a complete tipping point where like, they're like, yo we can't like everyone is getting too vocal too loud no one's agreeing with us yeah and i think they're trying

it sounds a little pessimistic but in my opinion it's almost as if they're sort of like saving face right before midterms to be like we're we're kind of putting a stop to this that too that too i i think he he definitely you know took advantage of the first year or two that he had to like kind of start all these wars and whatever and then like to start it now not later you know what i mean so you can kind of dim down towards the end. But I also think he just doesn't care. I don't know. I think he just says as well. And you just, he is, he is historically accurate in lying. He is a very big liar. So he could say this and he could say like, you know, bomb Lebanon to the ground tomorrow. You just don't know. You don't know. You don't know what's next with this guy. So yeah,

I don't know. I would take that with a grain of salt, to be honest. And then play the J.D. Vance one. This is another one that like, if you said this, if anyone said this previous to him saying this, it's all like, oh, you're anti-Semitic. You don't like Jewish people. Now, I saw the Axios report, you know, that Netanyahu is fuming. That's not reflective of the conversations that I've had with him, but maybe he's saying something to somebody else that he's not saying to me. What I will say, and this does bother me, is that you've seen people within BB's cabinet who have come out and attack the deal and in some ways very personally attack the president of the United States. And I guess my message to them,

would be twofold. Number one, Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time. And he happens to be the head of state of the world's superpower. If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world. And the second message I would give to some of those cabinet members, B.B., to his credit, has not gone down this path. But to some of these cabinet members in Israel who are attacking the President of United States,

the other thing that I would say is that over the last three months, two-thirds of the defensive weapons that have protected your homeland have been built by American hands and paid for by American tax dollars. The problem for Israel is not Donald J. Trump. And anybody in Israel who thinks their biggest problem

is the President of the United States needs to wake up and smell the reality of the situation that country is in. Thank you all. I think they're realizing they're grabbed by the balls by Israel. You know what I think? I think they're realizing that they may have fucked up a little bit. You don't think it's just posturing?

I think it's a little bit of both. It's a little bit of everything. It's a little bit of bull lying, appealing to, you know, now you have some Republicans that are against what's happening in Palestine as well. So maybe it's appealing to their own audience that they've realized that they're losing as well. well. Yeah. I mean, I think it's a little bit of everything, but I do think in there is a little bit of like, holy, like, you know, Israel is controlling us as well, you know, like it's the United States

of Israel. Yeah, it's just crazy how, you know, anyone said this like me, for example, a podcast or whatever. It's like, oh, you just, you don't like Jews. It's like, no, it's, it's, we've been giving them, I don't know, we've given them $300 billion over the last X amount of years. Yeah, since 48 years. We funded all these wars that are not really at the interest of us. for so many years. It just feels shit. It's like if you look at it from the outside and it's like how does this just keep continuing?

Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's imperialism, man. It's white supremacy. Like, you know, the U.S. is a superpower. And somehow you have this little country the size of New Jersey in the Middle East that is just, you know, running the world it feels like, you know. And it's not.

It's something the question for sure. It's like, how is this happening? How is Israel dragging the U.S. into bombing Gaza, Lebanon, Lebanon, and Iran? Like, how is that all happening? Why is Israel so capable of doing all this? Well, it's because of terrorists. That's what they'll say. Oh, yeah.

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Right, but like why is the U.S. so quick to jump on it? Maybe because the Middle East, I mean, Israel is like the only, you know, the connection they have to the Middle East. You know what I mean? They have the Iron Dome there as well that they gifted to Israel. think, I don't know, they're just, they're in cahoots with each other, but I do think Israel is also some sort of like maybe blackmail or something on Trump. So you believe that. You believe the blackmail thing. I do think there's something to do with blackmail for sure. I don't know if

that's, that's not like my full, like, oh yeah, it's blackmail for sure. You know, it's definitely a question. It's definitely a conversation. But I do think ultimately Trump is just also evil. Like he is just evil as well. Where do you think this goes? Like seeing that, kind of stuff. And I'm like, because that's the first time since they've been in office that they've said anything that's like against. Yeah, yeah, I have not seen that clip. That was my first time seeing that. I'll have to get into, I'll have to watch it more afterwards and do my own research. But I do think, like, where does this go? That's a good question. I, in terms of Israel and the U.S., I think U.S. has to, you know, stand its ground and realize that they're kind of

being like are they complicit in all of these wars and these genocides and did they are they are they a part of killing 150 girls in the school in iran yes but is is israel also kind of dragging him dragging the u.s into these things yeah i i definitely think so i think u.s has to you know kind of open their eyes a little bit more um where do i hope this goes obviously an end and and a dismantle of israel because i think israel is the forefront of all destruction in the middle east i mean israel is not only occupying Palestine, the West Bank and, you know, in Gaza, but also Lebanon, Lebanon, which is the Shabha Farms, which is a part of Lebanon, and then Syria, which is the Golden Heights. And then they are now bombing Iran.

And then, you know, the Houthis as well, they're, you know, fighting the Houthis. So I think there's a lot going on in the Middle East if you get rid of Israel, which is the common denominator between all of these different things. And when I say, get rid of Israel, I'm not saying get rid of the Jewish people. I'm saying dismantle the current government and free the people on the land from the river to the sea, you will have a better Middle East 100%.

Yeah, I think what this is leading to is... And a better U.S. too, without Israel's government. I think they're just going to lead to like new leadership in Israel and they're going to try to frame it in a way that like this is different now. That's what I think is going to happen. Yeah, that's the goal. But, you know, I don't know,

there are people that are arguably worse than Netanyahu. you know what I mean like Sharon for example or or Ben Gavir you know these people are arguably worse than Nathaniel so if they did switch him out we don't know who's going to take over or what their goals are going to be I do think actually not not what their goals are going to be I think we know what their goals would be but the way they go about it would be different but I think the end goal that you know a lot of people that want to get power in the in Israel is kind of the same thing just maintaining the occupation you know, prolonging it for as long as possible, killing, you know, Palestinians and making their lives feel like,

I want to believe that the Israeli society will do something about it, but, you know, from my videos, they're not looking like they're going to do anything. Yeah, that's the thing. So you've sort of like met, not met, I mean, you're obviously virtual, but you've talked with many, many people. A lot of times that I look at, it's like kids. That's, those are the clips you'll see. Yeah, those are clips you'll see.

Yeah, those are clips you'll see and a lot of people see, but I speak to people from all over. Like my age, younger, half of my age, double my age, triple my age, fluent in English. I've spoken to a South African Israeli settler. I've spoken to Israeli officials, Israeli soldiers in their checkpoints, Israeli military that are at home, Israeli reservists. I've spoken to literally, you name them, I've spoken to. And 99% of the people I've spoken to have a very similar goal in mind. Some of them yell at me and say they want to do those things to me and they want to kill me and whatever. And some will be a little nicer about it.

Like, why don't you think we shouldn't kill kids in Gaza? Like, they're slowly trying to, they're calmly trying to convince me that it's okay to kill children, you know, which I think is scarier than people yelling at me. Yeah. Well, that's the weird. It's what the rationalization is that they were just because they're going to become a terrorist. Yeah. But you could say it about anyone. Oh, no, no.

It's absurd. It's the stupidest. Yeah. It's insane. Yeah. I mean, I've watched a lot of the clips and I'm just like, this is, especially when you talk to the IDF soldiers, you're just like, what? Like that the guy, some guy was saying how he killed like two kids the other day and it was like, it was like a good day or some. Yeah.

And like, what am I watching? Yeah, hopefully tomorrow will be better. It's like, you know, what they're saying. I know exactly. He was like with a Rubik's cube or whatever. Yeah. I know what clip you're talking about. Yeah.

No, it's insane, man. It's insane. There are... What do you think it is? What do you mean? Like, where do you think it comes from? It's indoctrination from such a young age. It is brainwashing times a million by their families, you know, by the government, obviously.

I think everything that they see on their phones is controlled by Israel. What they see and what they don't see, it's controlled by Israel. It's their own bubble. They live in their own reality. Everything is, you know, it's for. until it's not. There's no freedom over there, to be honest, in terms of, like, thinking. You don't have your own thought process. You have to go off of, like, what Israel puts in front of you. So, yeah. It's interesting because I just see the reactions to the stuff. We just watch the two clips.

The same accounts, like, for example, on Twitter that would be like, oh, Donald Trump's the man because he's doing, he's like, started this war and it's so great. He bombed Iran and et cetera, etc. The second these two clips came out, they're like, he betrayed us, he's the worst. It's like, it's just interesting to see that. Yeah, yeah. The second it doesn't benefit us. You need to be extreme. You need to be extreme with Israel's support.

If you're not, you're hated. You know what I mean? Like you need to agree with what they are doing in Israel 100%. If you criticize anything, like, oh, but they are killing children or they are killing innocent people. Chalas, like, that's it. They're not going to, you know, they're going to think. you're betraying them in some way or you're a traitor or whatever or you're

yeah that's the frustrating part and then the thing when you talk about it's just like but you just don't agree with us or you just hate jewish people it's like man like yeah what the like like i'm that reminds me of like back in the day the whole like the whole blm like black square thing if you didn't post this and a sudden you didn't like black people it's like bro yeah it's weird how i don't know if it's just social media the way it's like got people to think or or if that's just how people have always thought, but it's like people just absolutely forget all the nuance of every situation

and they just go to the hardest thing. Yeah, yeah. You just don't like, it's like, no, man, I could say, if I looked at enough of these things and I could look at this picture of this place flattened, like, I don't think that was right. I don't even need to know all the details,

but you could tell it's not right. There is no reason or justification to bomb a hospital or a church or a mosque or a refugee camp or a school or a civilian infrastructure with no children or with no Hamas inside no soldiers inside but yeah of course it's they're always there that's the thing yeah right I mean they bombed 90% of Gaza to the ground they completely flattened it and they're saying it's because of Hamas you know what I mean like that is just and now they're defending themselves in Lebanon yeah with hasbalah yeah and that's what they

did with I mean I don't know if you saw this was like a year or two ago but they did a pager attack I don't know if you remember that yeah where they they rigged pagers 3,000 pagers for hasbala the pagers or whatever and they detonated all of them some of them went off when people were driving kids were killed some of them went off in grocery stores they had no regard for human life whatsoever no regard for children no regard for innocent women no regard for innocent men right um and a lot of uh people like a zionists they consider the men killed in gaza if you are a man you are a hamas soldier like that's how they view it and um it's crazy it's crazy and then they'll say well you know we killed this five-veld because he was throwing a rock at us.

Like, well, you're going to kill a five-year-old for throwing a rock at you? You know what I mean? Like, that's, that's insane. Yeah.

Yeah. What I've noticed from my times of speaking to Israelis and Zionists is that there is just no convincing them. There is no debating them. I don't debate them. I don't debate them. I would not speak to a Zionist off camera. It's just,

it's pointless. You're wasting time. You're never going to get through to them. They live in an echo chamber. They've been indoctrinated since a young age. They believe this propaganda. And it's not something that they're trying to feed to other people as propaganda. They genuinely believe it.

You know, they genuinely believe that killing children in Gaza is right. They genuinely, they don't even think they're children. They think they're human animals. They think that they are future terrorists, right? That's how they justify it. That's how, when you ask a Zionist, like, okay, has Israel killed any children? They'll, you know, some of them might say, no, we don't kill children. We kill terrorists.

they think children are terrorists. They don't even put them in the same ballpark as children. A five-year-old in Gaza is a terrorist to them, not a child. And that's why you'll hear a lot of Israeli say we don't kill children. Some of them would say that. Some of them boast about doing it, right? But some of them will say they don't do it because they literally classify them the children as terrorists.

What's the worst thing you've heard speaking to these people? The worst thing? Man, I've heard a lot. I've heard an Israeli soldiers say that they wanted to, I mean, he told me. straight to my face on my live stream. By the way, every single clip is live streamed on my channel. So, like, all the raw footage is all on my YouTube channel. It's Vodds.

And so if anyone wants to, like, look at the raw footage and a lot of people think I, like, cut my clips in a weird way. How am I going to cut someone saying, I want children in a weird way? I can't do that. But, you know, you could watch the raw footage anyways. But one of the worst things I heard, I think is someone saying that they wanted, an Israeli soldiers saying they wanted the one million children in Gaza. and flatten it to the ground and build a mall in Gaza instead. Bro.

Yeah. It's just so insane. Yeah. It's crazy. It's like you wouldn't. But how, how can you ever go like, no, that's, that's just. Yeah. Yeah.

And he's in uniform with his other Israeli soldier, you know, comrades, his other friends. So it's, it's insane. It's insane. I've had another Israeli soldier tell me, the one you saw, you know, he killed two kids the day before and, you know, the next day he'll try to do more or whatever. I've seen an Israeli soldier say, you know, that there is no such thing as innocent people in Gaza. All of them are terrorists, every single one of them. And they're going to go after Gaza and then Ramallah next. And this is a guy waving his gun around in the camera at a checkpoint. One of the first clubs I've ever posted, it was in 2023. in October 2023, and that was of two Israeli soldiers, one of them saying that they wanted every Palestinian child that they ever see, and that they will do that. Every Palestinian kid that they see, they will. And he was waving his gun around.

He's in a checkpoint, an official Israeli soldier, literally not joking two, three days after October 7th. So, yeah, I mean, it's been in front of our eyes, man. Like we, as Palestinians, as Arabs, we saw this coming from a mile away that this was all going to happen. I think when people heard about what happened on October 7th, specifically when people, the Palestinians in Gaza, Hamas, Hamas, they broke out of an open-air prison of 20 years.

You know, they celebrated that because they were literally caged for 20 years, and I think immediately realized what was going to happen next. They immediately realized that Israel is going to take advantage of this moment and completely flattened Gaza to the ground and kill as many people as possible. I don't think they realized it was going to be this bad, but, you know, I think it has to get worse before it gets better. How much worse can it get?

Yeah, I mean, I think it's only up from here, hopefully, inshallah. Inshallah, we do see justice and we see a free Palestine and the lives that we're lost. We can't get back, obviously, but, and that's why we need to take Netanyahu and all of the Israeli officials that are complicit in this genocide to the Hague, take them into the ICJ and demand justice. because ultimately that's what the Palestinian people deserve, not only for this genocide,

but also for the military occupation since 1967 and the Nekba in 1948, which I'd love to talk to you about if you don't know much about it. No, I don't. The Nekba of 1948? I've heard this. I don't know the details. Yeah, okay.

So roughly 750,000 Palestinians were kicked out of their homes in 1948 by Zionist militia, Zionist terrorist groups. Their names were Ergun, Haganah, and Lihi, right? Those are just examples. Some didn't have labels on them. They were just terrorists as well. But this was before Israel was even created. This is when, I mean, it was like kind of in the same time of Israel's inception. They kind of did everything at once, but they displaced 750,000 Palestinians from their homes, and they killed 15,000 of them,

and they depopulated and destroyed over 400 villages. And, you know, popular villages, This is right after World War II. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is in 1948. Yeah. And Deriyasin and Tantura. These two villages are very memorable for those that experience the Nekba. I mean, you have some survivors that tell you about what happened.

And you even have the Israeli soldiers from back then. They tell you what they did back then as well. There's a film. There's a documentary. I urge the viewers to watch this documentary called Tantura. It's 90 minutes long. It's an hour. all three languages, English, Arabic, and Hebrew, and there are subtitles.

And they, it's literally Israeli soldiers boasting about what they did in these villages in 1948, Tuntur and Derien. They raped women. I see clips to this. These older guys, right? Yeah, yeah. They cut off, you know, men's genitals, put it in their mouth and buried them that way. They literally tore houses down.

They burned them down. They lined up Palestinians. to the wall in like in numbers and just went one by one you know knocking the wall down killing them children included this didn't only happen in these villages like these are this is just one example of 400 villages right sounds like they were defending themselves right yeah exactly exactly it's not funny no no no but but that's it's a joke it's a joke dude like what's defending yourself from what children what is the counter argument though because like you've had enough of these conversations, why would they say that that happened?

Someone's going to hear this and go, well, that happened because of this. No, no, what they call it is the Arab-Israeli war. They don't call it the Nekba, right? They call the Arab-Israeli war, and they say that they won the war. They took over the land, fair and square. And a lot of them deny that these specific atrocities happened in Tantura and Dariusin. They think it was debunked or, oh, it was debunked. And they'd move on like that.

Like, oh, you know, it's a conspiracy theory, and they ignore it. people do that. And a lot of them will just be like they're terrorists. It's exactly the same kind of argument they give now of bombing children in schools and killing tens of thousand children. They'll say that they're terrorists as well. So yeah, it's a mix of what they say now. And back then it was just like, oh, we conquered it, fair and square. And I did want to mention that 750,000 Palestinians back then being kicked out was 80% of the Palestinians that existed. So there were nearly a million, not even, like 950,000, and 750,000 of those people were kicked out of their homes. The other nearly 200,000 stayed, and that's why you see 2 million Palestinians in a population of 9 million in Israel proper.

You know, there are 2 million. It's like roughly 20% of the Israeli population are Palestinians. That's the descendants of the 200,000 from 48. And a lot of people will say that this happened because of, you know, the 30,000. 36 Great Revolt, which is another war that happened, or not war, but whatever. And more Palestinians were killed then as well. Like they like to stop time wherever they want, you know. They'll say that anything that happened after Zionism is because the land was promised

them 3,000 years ago. You know, that's kind of their claim for everything. Like, okay, why did you kill children in 1948? Why did you displace them if Hamas didn't exist? Why did you do that? Well, it was promised to us 3,000 years. ago, Judea. We're going to go to Argentina or something like that?

I always heard that one. I don't know if maybe Argentina was one of them. Uganda was definitely one of them. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, the holy land and you're going to give me 10 options, but they're all holy to you? It doesn't make any sense. Well, the holy land thing comes from the Bible, right?

Yeah. Yeah, but they use it to their advantage of like, oh, well, what if they stuck with Uganda, right? What's their excuse for that? Displacing people there, you know, they don't have one. because they're just using what they can. And because it's in Jerusalem, it's in Palestine. They're using it to their advantage.

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I wish I had an Israeli here, bro. I do it. That would be fire. That would be fire. But it's like, I don't know who. I don't even know who to get. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd love to get Ben Shapiro.

Ben Shapiro would just be yapping. I feel like I've been yapping this whole time. So maybe I'm like, you know, being hypocritical. Yeah, but you're supposed to. It's a one-on-one. But he, dude, he's a yapper. He speaks at like 300 miles per hour. hour, he'll make a hundred points and you have to respond to like, you have to try to respond

all of them in like a sentence. Yeah, you got to, you got to debate someone like that, man. Yeah. It's funny. Yeah, it would be funny. I've done, I've done some debates before, like, not proper debates. I've never done an actual proper debate, but I've like, you know, I've had, you know, two, three, four hour long conversations with people about this on Omega, Israelis, you know?

And, I mean, they're very slow. Like, I don't know. I don't, there's, there's not really, there's not really a good argument that they have. The only argument they have is, it's like, yeah, the 3,000 years ago thing, but it's like, that's not even like a good argument. I don't know. Because who was there 4,000 years ago? What the fuck?

Okay, give it to the monkey that were there 10,000 years ago if you want. Give it to you, bro. You know what I mean? Yeah. At what point do you decide this is? They don't, I don't have an answer to that. They don't, there's no good argument. I'll be honest.

I'm trying to be non-biased, seriously, but there just isn't... Sounds biased. Yeah. I mean, what have you heard? Is there anything? No, I just, I mean, they'll just always sort of revert back to the Bible and the passage is about like, you know. But then I'm, but in my head, I go, well, but that that's like, that's like saying people who wrote the Bible were talking about present day. Yeah.

Government. Actually, I know, no, no. The best argument I've heard from an Israeli actually is saying that a five-year-old was trying to throw a rock at them. Like to kill the child, like, that was probably the best. like that was probably the best argument I heard from an Israeli, which says a lot, right? Like, if that's their best, is that a Bible was throwing a rock at them, so you killed it. Damn. Yeah.

That's their best. So do you have fun doing this or is it sad? Do I have fun doing this? Yeah. Do I have fun being told I want to myself or like, it's telling me to kill myself basically? No, no, I don't have fun doing it. But I, there's times I do because it's starting to get to a point where it's just funny. I'm just, like, it's just, I'm on repeat with these people.

Like, they say the same over and over and over again. And it's just like, like, it's just so predictable, you know? And I've done this so many times recently in my life streams where, like, I'll say something. And then I'll, like, argue with myself. And I'll just say what they would say. And I'll talk back to myself. And I just skip the person. Because I'm like, I know what you're going to say.

Like, this is worth, it's not even worth the conversation. But, no, it's been more sad than anything, man. I mean, hearing that, you know, as a Palestinian, especially like you know israeli's wanting to hurt me for simply being Palestinian I think it's a very very sad thing you know but but but I'm blessed because I I love doing it am I happy doing it like do I smile when I do it not necessarily but am I am I happy doing this type of work yes because my videos have been viewed over four billion times in the past two years or three years you know and those are four billion eyes I mean maybe it's a few hundred million people right

But those are hundreds of millions of people that are looking at Israel for what they are, you know, as evil, as child killers and genocidal maniacs through my videos. And I think getting messages from Israelis that are not living there anymore, that kind of, I'm putting a mirror up to themselves and they're opening their eyes. I've had that. I've had Israelis message me saying, hey, you woke me up. Like, this is crazy. I didn't know we were like this.

Or I thought it was all right to children, but you opened my eyes. And I'm like, it's crazy that I had to open your eyes to tell you that it's not okay to children. But I'm glad I did, right? I've had a Zionists the same way. I've had people in the middle, in the neutral, that aren't necessarily a fan of either Palestine or Israel, but they watch my videos and they get educated by it. And that's what keeps me going. That's what makes me happy.

That's what makes me smile. Because the craziest thing is like, you know, the conflation about Zionism and Judaism. Yeah. Like this religion, Judaism doesn't teach killing people is okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not the religion. That's what it is. It's Zionism.

It's the idea of, you know, having their homeland in another person's home and another person's land in Palestine, right? That's what Zionism is ultimately. It's having a Jewish homeland in the land of Palestine at the expense of Palestinians. That's what the Nekba was. and that's what we're seeing today. This didn't just start a few years ago. This has been going on. And way before, I mean, it's crazy because you look before political Zionism

before the 1800s, you had Jewish people, Christians, and Muslim people living on this land. Yeah, peacefully. They were okay. I remember I wasn't there. I read about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but there's like, there was nothing wrong with that. Yeah, sure.

The Jewish people were like a single digit percentage. and then it went Christians and then it went Muslims like Muslims were the majority, but they were living peacefully for the most part. There was nothing wrong until Zionism became a thing. Until European Jewish people that are Zionists started coming into the land called Alias and started in the late 1800s and started taking over land, right? You look at the father of Zionism, Theodore Herzl. He defined Zionism in 1898 in the first Zionist Congress as something colonial

because they knew what this was before it even began. Before the 1900s, Theodore Hertz, the father of Zionism literally called this colonial. You know, because that's what it is. Zionism at the end of the day is colonialism. It's imperialism. It's racism. It's fascism. Yeah.

This is mine now. Yeah. So you don't think there's going to be a two-state thing. No, no, no, no. I'm not for that either. I am for a one-state solution from the river to the sea, equal rights for all, multi-ethnic, multi-religious state. Yeah.

Yeah, obviously I would... I just feel like that's not going to happen. I mean, they're both very hard to... I think a two-state solution is impossible. Let me say that. I think that is just impossible. I'll give my reasonings for that in a second, but I think a one-state solution is more realistic

because how hard is it to give... I mean, it seems pretty hard for Israel, but how hard is it to give the people in the West Bank and in Gaza equal rights and voting rights? Like, that shouldn't be... That's way easier than dividing the land, kicking, that will cause displacements, right? And also not acknowledging the right of return for the 1948 Palestinians. If you look at the map, if they did do a two-state solution, 1967 borders,

that wouldn't give the right of return to those that were kicked out in 1948. You know the 700,000, 700,000 I was talking about? That wouldn't give their rights back and their descendants, which are over 10 million now that are not living in Palestine. that wouldn't give their rights back to come back home because it would be now Israel and they would have to find new homes in different parts of Palestine.

Why would they want to do that? Their home is over here. Why would they want to come over here, right? Yeah. So that's just another reason why it's just impossible. It is a one-state solution like wishful thinking? 100%. But it is definitely more possible,

especially now with, you know, the world waking up. I mean, we've never seen hundreds of thousands of people march in the name of Palestine in Washington, D.C. in Jakarta and Cape Town and all these countries, millions of people, right? We haven't seen that since, you know, the first time we saw that was after October 7th. People didn't know about Palestine. They thought I said Pakistan when I would say I'm from Palestine, right?

They mixed up the two. So the fact that we are now seeing, and especially like you look at Mamdani, right? Mamdani in New York. I mean, these are signs of hope. These are signs of like this is what would get us closer to seeing a free Palestine and an end to the apartheid regime of Israel. and a free Middle East from this terrorism because ultimately they are terrorism. What if it was at one state but they got to call it Israel?

But they got to call Israel. Would you be down with that? And I get equal rights. Yeah. You know, it's a funny question, right? It's a very, it's a very funny question. I have been asked this and I don't know how to answer it because I don't think so because of the name, because of what Israel has attached to it now, right?

because of what the flag has attached to it now, I wouldn't. Right? But if they named it Jerusalem, right? I mean, come on, that's the easiest option. Or name it whatever. I would, I want Palestine. I would prefer Palestine. I would wish for that and the flag to be the same.

But as long as the map is the same and I have equal rights and my family can go back and they can drive from Ghazah to Ramallah to Jerusalem to wherever throughout from the river to the sea, man, call it whatever you want other than Israel because it has a bad taste in my mouth, bad taste in everything. everyone's mouths, but, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. We just want to live there. We don't, we're not really like hung up on this name, even though like we want it. And I, as a person, if I had the chance to name it, Palestine, of course I would over anything. But we want our rights more than anything. So you're okay with Israel? No, no, no, no. I'm controlling you. I'm trolling you.

No, I'm not. When did you get into making content? I've been doing content. You said something funny to me earlier when we were walking in here. Yeah. Oh yeah. So I've been doing content since I was around 10 10 years old, 10, 12 years old. I've been, I'm 23 now. So I've been doing this for over a decade at this point. That's insane. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's nearly half of my life. You know, I mean, I think probably probably like, hey, half of my life. What did you start out doing? You were just like, well, I did like the chubby bunny challenge, the cinnamon challenge. I did daily vlogs because I would watch dos of Fusi a lot. I watch Fusi a lot. And, you know, I, I saw him collab with you as well in the very beginning.

Yeah. How he like, you know, he was, he shouted out your channel or something. Yeah. That's how I found out about you literally decade ago. Yeah. So little, I think a little more than that now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

So that's what got me started. Also, you know onage pranks? Yeah, that's old. Ownage pranks. Yeah. Ownage pranks. Yeah. Onage pranks was a big inspiration as well.

I mean, I was always a troll. So that's what got me like, you know, my followers in the beginning. and my supporters was trolling. I had millions of followers before October 7th. I was doing Fortnite and gaming. And even the NELC boys were watching my videos. They followed me and were like commenting on my stuff. What do you think about their Netanyahu interview?

I mean, bro. That was crazy. It was, I mean, my perspective of it, it was probably like the worst thing they could have done at the time. I'm not being honest, man. Yeah, but dude, there was no countering, anywhere. Well, that was like a pro-Israel video. That was like, um, like, do you think they were paid for that? I don't know. That's the thing I don't know. Like, it's, I don't know. Like, it's, I don't know

any of those details. The question. Yeah, the questions that were asked. You're like asking about like, Burger King and shit's crazy. In the state of the whole thing. I understand why. Like, they look, they look back and I think even they feel like looking back at it. I mean, they're trolls. They're trolls, which is okay. I understand. But I think it's, it's more so the answers that Netanyahu would give. You're not even questioning a single thing. you know what I mean? Yeah. And to be fair to them,

I genuinely don't know how that was set up or how it came about. That, I mean, for all I know, it's like a last second thing. Or no, no,

it wouldn't have even got it in there kind of, like imagine they said things that were against would they have even allowed it? I mean, you gotta think of the state of which everything

was in at the time. On paperwork that might have needed to be signed and stuff for it. Yeah, I personally think they may have gotten paid. But then they brought

Bassemusufon, which is, who we were talking about earlier. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if you saw that interview that they did or the podcast. I did, yeah. Yes, I watched all of that.

And Bass & News have literally dog walked all of them and told them everything. Like, yo, this is how it is. And bro, you know who I want to sit right here? I want Stiney to sit in this chair. Or I'll FaceTime Stiney right now. I need to speak to this little shit. He's getting to hate me.

Because I said, funny, I was like, oh, I'm going to have someone on the pod. Oh, yeah? You told him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy is a little shit. No, he's like... He's like, he's so stupid.

Like, he's so haram. He's like, he's like, I feel bad, you know? Yeah. Steini's gonna hate this. He's so slow. I like Steinie. I like Steinies. The TP answers.

He's knocked. No, no. Oh, he's answering. Yo, can you hear me? Sorry. Your service is so bad. Where is he, man? Yo.

Oh, there. You got the call, huh? No. Yeah, yeah. He got the call. He's like, fuck, get. Retreat. Retreat. I feel like he saw the podcast. He's like, I'm not asking. Yeah, he saw the mic. He's like, fuck that. You told me who's coming on. I'm good. Yeah, I don't know. What was your perspective on it? That interview.

Which one, both of them? No, the Netanyahu. Well, no, I think that was just a very, it was very much a pro-Israel propaganda videos, what it seemed like to me. No questioning at all. You know, Netanyahu would literally blatantly lie to their face. and would make up all these propaganda things and statements. And there would be no backpedaling by milk. I'm not trying to defend it, but it's like I also don't think they knew enough. And that's the interesting thing.

I think even in the video itself before it starts, they're like, yo, we're not even like fit to do this. I think they said, then don't do it. Then don't do it. Like, I mean,

they are still at fault. Whether they are knowledgeable or not, don't do it if you're not. Like, I get if you're trying to learn more, but get like a historian on or something then. Like why are you getting the prime minister of Israel, which is clearly biased?

But they're so down, they're so down the rabbit hole with like they've, you know, I even did an interview with Trump. Like they did, I think like three interviews. I did none. They were so down like that political spectrum

that like, it kind of like made sense. I'm not justifying. And I'm just saying like I think that's in their mind. It's like, hey, we've been walking in this direction. Why not keep going?

I get it. I get it. And I'm sure they thought it was going to be like a 30 million view of video too. I'm sure. they thought that was going to bang. I think it got like $2 million or something. The Bastamusef one out did it. But, you know, I think that's probably why they instantly went back is because it didn't

go as vile as they thought it would. And it got just hella backlash. And all of their OGs as well were like, well, what is this? And they started backing out as well. So I don't know. I think it was, I don't know if they were paid. It's definitely a conversation for sure. but I do think that they're just like looking for views on something like that.

Like they're not really trying to do anything else. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, that's sort of the podcast game. What about Steve? How is he doing in terms of, you know, he's crushing. He's crushing. I mean, Steve's been doing YouTube now. It feels like six months maybe.

Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's because his channel was gone for like a few years. Yeah. And what was the reasoning for deleting that anyways? They say it was like he had a, like a like a gambling thing in his URL on the video screen. And he had a URL on the screen.

Like promoting a website. Yeah, I believe it was steak. Oh, but everyone does that. They took him down. You got his ass? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's interesting timing.

I know that. Yeah, he's probably pro-Palestine. That's probably, this is probably why. Actually, I'm very curious on that. I want to ask him his stance on this. Steve is not versed in any of it. He just might not know anything.

He's not, he just, what's, what's real, bro? Steve is pro people. I'll tell you that. He loves people. He loves people. He loves giving to people. He's specifically loves giving to the African American community. That's a big thing of his. Yeah, yeah.

But he gives to people, like more than I've ever seen anyone give to people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you done much giving back? I'm assuming at this point, you've made some decent money as far as, like, content goes. Yeah, yeah. So I actually started a merch brand at the end of 2023, as soon as everything, like, went down. because with my following, I just wanted to do something, right? Yeah.

So I'm still running it, and we've planted over 10,000 olive trees in Palestine with my merch brand, and we've donated like 20 to 30,000 meals to families in Gaza as well. Yeah. And that's only been since the beginning of the genocide. And that's been in collaboration with Heal Palestine, which is an organization, a nonprofit organization, that feeds children in Gaza and provides medical help, not only the people in Gaza, but also just Palisthan. Palestinians around the world and my mom's nonprofit, the DeBunia Olive Tree Project. And basically for every order on my website, all things, palestine.com, every single order

plants an olive tree and donates meals to families in Palestine. That's awesome. Yeah. So that was one way of giving back. And then I'm also working with Penny Appeal Canada, which I've raised with my community through like campaigns and launch goods, probably half a million in the past year for, Palestine, for Reza specifically, for emergency responses and for food. So yeah, no, I'm, I always try my best to, you know, you're not just talking about it. No, no, no, I, I put my money where my

mouth is. I, you know what I mean? I, I, I, I walk the walk, I talk, I do it all. So, what else do you want to do with your life besides all this content? We can't talk about it. I mean, I've been doing content for so long now, dude, I, I, and I love it. It's something I've mastered. I've, I have like eight plaques, bro. I've brought up channels to millions of subscribers so many times. And I'm still doing. I have like two or three more launching this year that I'm hopefully going to like take over. Another one's a gaming one.

And then I'm trying to do like a reaction type of channel as well. So yeah, I have I have absorber with a few million, Hamza with a few million, another absorber channel. Another Hamza. What is that? Oh, absorber. Sorry. So that's my gaming username. That was my, so that was what I was known for before October 7th.

For years, I was known for doing Fortnite content. I actually collabed with speed before he was, I was bigger than him when we collabed. Which is insane. Damn, what year was that? That was 2022, 2021, 2021, 2022. Okay. Yeah, it was just a few years ago, but, but I mean, he grew pretty quick, you know. But he was still doing Fortnite streams.

And basically, I did this thing where I would sound like a girl. And I would- I swear I've seen this. Yes, you have 100%. I would catfish people. I would make people think I'm a girl. And then, you know. Oh, I've seen this.

I would do it on Fortnite. I would do it on Omegel. So, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you're just a troll. So I was always a troll man. Yeah.

So I trolled speed. I acted as if I was a girl and I trolled him. I did it three times. I trolled him three separate times. One was the beginning of 2022. One was the, no, no, one was, yeah, beginning of 2022. I think one was the year before that in 2021. And then another one, like, end of 2022.

I don't know. It was like, it was far apart, though. It wasn't like, you know. Yeah. I had more viewers than him at the time. I remember. I had more subs. And then he had passed me.

I was at $3 million or like, whatever, a 2. something, 2.5. And he had passed me. And that was, he just, he's just like, bro. Guys. Oh, my God. He's crazy. I mean, man.

he figured out the live streaming like the traveling live stream content is yeah unbeatable and i'm not gonna lie man i i do feel like i could have been in a very similar boat in terms of like not maybe not speed but definitely like nick a 30 for example or you know any of the fortnight guys that are still posting like cipher pk maybe i don't yeah yeah you know i i feel like i would have i could have done that because i i mean dude i was averaging like my peak days i was averaging like 60K viewers on my streams like 67K on Twitch? YouTube. I was YouTube streaming. I never streamed on Twitch.

Yeah. I may be streamed on Twitch for a little bit. It was like maybe 5K viewers or whatever, but I, my main streaming. You were actually good at Fortnite. I was like, I was good. Yeah, I was, I was entertaining. It was the biggest thing as I was, I would troll people live on stream, you know? And I was also, I went for the phase five challenge and oh my God. I guess this is the podcast to talk about it, right? There's a lot of drama with that.

I was 17, 18 years old going for phase. You know the phase five challenge. Yeah, yeah. You're going, you have 200,000 people competing for the top five, right? Yeah. I made it to the top 100. Then I made it to the top 20. And then I was picked for the top five in person.

I went down to the phase house here. I was invited in 2020. Which house was it? The one, the Justin Bieber's old house. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Been there a few times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two parties there.

Yeah, oh, yeah. Yeah, oh, yeah. So as soon as I went in there, I was invited December of 2020. Dude, I had to sign a waiver before I walked in. Like, if anything happened, then it's like, you know, I went on a slide. They were feeling like a TikTok for Face Clan for their TikTok account. And there was one of them, one of the clips I had to slide down. And I slid my elbow and I hurt myself.

And Sam Pepper was there. And he was the manager at the time. He looked at him. He was like, thank God you signed that waiver. I'm like, where am I, bro? What is this shit? You know? But you weren't that hurt.

No, but like this guy was, no. I wasn't. But he's so paranoid about it. And that's all he cares about. Sounds like Sam. And that's all he cares about, you know. And it was just, I don't know, people, I don't, I walk in people doing drugs on the first floor said, don't go to the second floor.

I'm like, what are they doing on the second floor if they're doing this down here? You know what? You know. You think it's a ditty party up there or what? Yeah, I don't know, bro. I don't know. I was just like. what the hell is this?

It was just so crazy. It was so crazy. And then Frazier K was there. Yeah. And I was like basically chosen to join. But then like there was this mole in the management. There was a mole in the management that was against me. And they spewed all this bullshit about me that I'm the type of person to be racist.

And I would say like, you know, slurs. And Sam Pepper brought it to my attention. He's he came. He showed me the message. I know who it is. I know the manager. dude he's not part of phase anymore it's crazy that he even was but he he showed me the message and it was this guy saying yo don't pick hamza he's a type of person to say x y and z and he would

type the slurs out himself you know but it was crazy and then i was like no that's not true and then i saw banks and dude they all wanted me to join and banks even messaged me after the winners were announced because i decided to like you know basically opt out banks messaged me as well he was like yo, if you still want to join, by the way, let me know. We can work something out. I was like, I'm just one. I'm going solo. But if I changed my mind, I'll let you know.

This was in 2021. Damn. Yeah. And then I had my most viewed month ever in terms of long form. I was like, I don't know, 30 million or whatever long form views in one month as soon as I, like, focused on myself. So it was just like meant to be like I shouldn't. It was the wrong decision, you know? Yeah.

But I don't know. You like the direction you're going in now. 100%. This is what I've been wanting, you know, is to be representing my people in my country and to raise awareness for the people that have been, you know, voiceless for the past eight decades, you know. And having a platform, I think to be honest with you, man, this has been my goal. It has to speak out about Palestine. It's been my goal since day one.

I just needed to gain a following of some sort before doing, you know? I couldn't just start off saying free Palestine. I needed to build a following, doing something else, and then, you know, shipped over. Do you think it would be different now? Let's say if you didn't have a following and you just started out with that sort of content now, do you think it could be not necessarily as successful to the point you're at now, but you think you still could get a following now because it's more. If I had zero now and I started doing Palestine stuff now, yeah.

Yeah, just because now it's like a hot topic, right? Yeah. But back then, no. No, no, back then, you would have, they would have, you would have, you would have disappeared into the cosmos. Yes, yeah, it would have been the end of me. No, I know that. Back then, you, it would have been the end.

Bro, I knew from the beginning, I remember I got in the content 15 years ago now. It was like, you don't, you don't say things that are racist. Anti-Semitism. Or you don't talk about Jews. Yeah, those are the two things. Yeah, bro. It's like, it wasn't even about Israel. Yeah, but if you do say anything about Israel, it's like, they connect it to Jewish

people themselves which is annoying but yeah that was crazy yeah yeah yeah so now it kind of works now now it works and now it's coming into it yeah yeah and that and that question's like but is that why you got me on like me no because because now it works right no i've been talking about it for a minute no no no no you you had a gym rat in gaza on your podcast that's why i can't i decided to come on no no that's why i decided to come on i i have a lot of respect for you for that because because these are people that need, I was just joking, well, I sorry. But, you know, these are people that need a voice

and the fact that you are helping with that, and you're giving them. It's like, because you hear, for me, it was the perspective of like, you constantly hear one side because it's kind of like how our media is tailored. Yeah. And so I was like, I want to actually talk to someone from there.

Yeah. And to be honest, the most interesting part of that conversation was the fact that he's just a random gym bro. very nice kid, very well spoken. And I was so interested in having that conversation, obviously because of the situation to actually hear, like, okay, what's actually happening, right?

The thing that's kind of sad about it is like, some of the reaction that I got was from people who were obviously anti-Palestinian, would be like, why would you do that? Like, of course he would say whatever he has to say because he's not good. And the crazy part is during that interview, there was a moment where I cut completely what he was saying because he literally asked me to cut this out

because he was afraid that how if someone saw it in relationship to Israel, like the way I was speaking, what he was speaking and what he was sharing to me, he was like, I think I'd be like even more fearful for my life. So like that's the thing. When, you know, I got this reaction. I was like, damn, that sucks because like if his goal was like, let me just spread propaganda. Let me say things so that people feel bad for me. Then he wouldn't have told you any of that.

He wouldn't have said, hey, bro, can you cut this out completely? Like, and it's completely out of the podcast. The thing that he was telling me, because I asked him something specific. I'm not going to, like, say what it was. Of course, of course. But he literally asked me, hey, can you not put this in the podcast? Because I'm actually concerned that it would cause even more fear for my life. Yeah.

So that in and of itself, I was like, like, if you were playing the victim, you would say anything. Yeah. To play the victim, right? Exactly. Are you one of those media strategy people? clicking through slides, scrolling spreadsheets. Yes? Good. This is for you. Because on Spotify, there's an audience that's different,

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You would be Israel. You'd do it. You wouldn't hold back at all. So when I heard that, I was like, man, this is. Yeah. Yeah, dude. I mean, I run into Palestinians on Omegal as well that live in Israel because like I mentioned earlier, two million of them live there.

They don't have self-determination of their own. They are being stolen of their, their identities being stolen. You know, they have the blue ID, the Israeli ID. And they have to claim themselves as Arab-Israeli now. What's the blue ID? Blue ID is the Israeli passport, is the Israeli ID. So if you have the blue ID, but you don't have the same rights. Is that how this goes?

Yeah, exactly. Like on it, you have a blue ID. Let's say you have a Palestinian and you have an Israeli, right? Palestinian has a blue ID. Israeli has a blue ID. But you don't have the same rights. I mean, on paper as well, you don't. There's something called the nation state law, which has been implemented in like practice

for since the, you know, the beginning of Israel. But on paper since 2018 by Netanyahu. And the nation state law, if you guys look into it, If you want to look it up, actually. Yeah, pull that up. So they don't get self-determination. They are deemed as second or third-class citizens in some places. So when you say self-determination, just for laymen, what do you mean by that?

So, like, they're not able to really, like, be proud of who they are, of their culture of being Palestinian. You know, you can't really, it's a, it's almost, it's life-threatening to kind of wave the Palestinian flag around and to claim that you're a Palestinian. I have a lot of Palestinians that pop up on. Like you have to say you're Israeli. Yeah, yeah, or Arab. Or Arab. Yeah, you can't say about Palestinians don't exist there, right, in their vocab. So I run into a lot of Palestinians on Omegal that live there and they know me and they love what I do.

And they're obviously, right? I'm putting us on the map and I'm helping our people. But they instantly ask me if I'm live and I say yes and they skip me immediately. They're scared of their lives, right? I also had someone say, oh my God, Hamza, free Palestine, bro. I'm from Palestine. I live here. I live in Jerusalem, whatever.

and then I'm like, oh, I'm live streaming, by the way. He's like, oh, my God, can you delete that? Can you remove? I'm like, I can't. It's live. And then I skip immediately. So now when I run into Palestinians, I leave them immediately because I have like, at all times, it's like maybe five to 10,000 people watching my streams when I do it live.

And maybe a good percentage of them are Zionists also trying to come find me, people in Israel that are just watching this, I hate commenting, whatever. So if they see a Palestinian saying good things about, Palestine or about themselves or self-determining, they're going to possibly do something about it, maybe make the person lose their job. Because that's a real law there. It's literally the nation-state law. Yeah, I mean, look at the Israel's nation-state law. Officially enacted as a basic law, Israel, the nation-state of the Jewish people in July 2018, legally enshrines Israel's status as the historic homeland of the Jewish people and assert that the right to national self-determination within itself

is exclusive to them, which is insane. If you're non-Jewish, you cannot have self-determination. And then, I mean, that's just one of them. I mean, there's so many, there are over 65 laws that go against Arabs that live in Israel proper. This is just one of them. Another one's the right of return, which is what I mentioned earlier. The Palestinians that were kicked out of their homes in 1948 cannot come back to their homes. But if you're a Jewish from anywhere in the world, you can come and get a home in Israel.

You know what I mean? Yeah. So, I mean, there's a lot that goes against them being, you know, just against Palestinians. I think a very. So why is it a democracy then? It's not. It's not a democracy. That's the lie that we, that we're being told.

It is not a democracy. It's a democracy for specific people. Yeah, which is, you know, that's apartheid. I mean, that's not democracy. Yeah. And the West Bank, you heard the word apartheid a lot. Yeah. With this, right?

I think a big, a big example of apartheid when we're talking about Palestine is the West Bank. That is the biggest issue. I mean, there's levels to apartheid, right? You'll have the West Bank and then you'll have Israel proper, which is like historic Palestine. And it's worse in the West Bank than it is in 1948 Palestine. It's still bad with the nation state law and other laws like that. It's still bad there, but it's even worse in the West Bank. If you look into it, you have millions of Palestinians amongst nearly a million Israeli

settlers that are illegally there, they are segregated. They have their own separate roads. If you visit the Palestinian villages versus the Israeli settlements, you'll see high rises or, you know, well-furnished housing, and you'll see like literal rubble and not the best buildings. You have literal segregation in the West Bank, which is, by the way, under international law, recognized as occupied Palestinian territories. Both the Gaza and the West Bank are one entity under international law. It's literally defined as occupied. And they've been military occupying the West Bank and Gaza since 1967 until 05 for Gaza. And then they redeployed their troops at the outside borders and turned it into a blockade.

But this is what's so interesting is like you hear the arguments is like, well, they just hate us. And it's like, at what point do humans not get that? Okay, if you stuck a bunch of people in a place and you're like, yo, you're basically like lesser than me. And you don't have these rights and I have these rights. Why would they not hate you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if that happened, anyone in the world.

You are making them hate you. And we always, Palestinians, like, okay, a lot of people like to say that Palestinians are anti-Semites because of, by the way, we're Semites, first of all, which is insane. So we're not anti-ourselves. But in terms of being anti-Semitic towards Jewish people, they like to say that because we refer to them as Yehud in Arabic, right? We say, Yehud. So if there was like an Israeli soldier outside, they would say, oh, you know,

Yahood's outside, right? they would refer to them as Yehud, which means Jewish people, like a Jew, a Jew, basically. That's what Yehud means. And the reason they are saying that is because, first of all, they are Jewish, right? It's not, we're not labeling all Jewish people as that, but they are Jewish, number one. Number two, Israel is literally using Judaism as a force field to kill, to protect themselves and to kill Palestinians. They're killing Palestinians in the name of Judaism. them. All they know is what you are giving them. You are killing them and you are, your flag is the

star of David, right? Like, you are doing this to them. You are making them this way. So, I don't know, like you, you're making them not like you. You're making them not like Israel. By the way, when we say Yehud, we mean Zionists and that's like, you know, but just from like a while ago, you know, it's just, Yehud stuck because that's ultimately, I mean, they are Jewish people. But when I say Yehoud or if anyone says it in this context in terms of Israel, we mean Israelis. We mean Zionists. We don't mean it in any anti-Semitic way. But the reason I mention that is because a lot of Israelis and Zionists like to use that against us.

But yeah, I mean, they are literally, what do you think is going to happen when you lock up two million people in an open-air prison and basically a concentration camp for 20 years? You don't think they're going to bite you back, you know? It's like, come on. Yeah. I'm not necessarily justifying any deaths that happened on October 7th. I don't justify any innocent killing.

But you need context in order to understand why this happened and how to prevent it from happening again, right? Yeah. The whole thing is so crazy, bro. Yeah. So you wanted to get into acting. I do want you cook, dude. What's up? They got to Hollywood. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you're cooked. You're done for. I mean, you know, I think we're seeing some changes happen. We're looking at like films like the Hind Rajab film, which is Hind Rajab was a, I believe, how old was she? Is it six years old? I think around five, six years old.

She was a Palestinian girl in Gaza, and she was in a vehicle that was shot 355 times by the Israeli military, by machine guns, by, I don't know necessarily if they were machine, but by guns, and it killed her, and there was a phone call recorded, calling for help, and it was her on the the phone. This is a little six-year-old just calling for help or five even at the time, I think,

because I have a jersey with her name on it, Hendredo, and the number's five. So I think she was five years old. But yeah, I mean, she was calling for her help and you could just hear her last breath, basically. And they made a whole film documentary about this that ended up like getting nominated, you know, for, I believe was it in, was it in the Oscars? their Emmys or it was but anyways like they're making it to Hollywood you know what I mean like these films about Palestine specifically about the genocide are they're making it this far okay yeah no another that's another film um it was made by an Israeli and Palestinian I watched it it's actually so powerful it's about the West Bank it's about the settlements and they also got

nominated can you look up where they got nominated what it was for yeah I mean they got like look at that right that's a film about Palestine they got all of those nominations and they won numerous awards as well. Look at that. I have to check that out. Yeah, yeah. You definitely have to watch no other land, man. Watch no other land, watch Tantura, watch the Hindrajab film. I mean, these are so educational, man.

But to get to your point about Hollywood. Well, I mean, you're joking, but it's also not entirely, like, why do some actors not talk about this? Like, they're scared about it, you know? Yeah. Because Zionists are holding their tongue. So it's not necessarily Jewish people. Zionists are. So, you know, I think it's a very, it's a very, it's going to be tough for me to get into acting for sure.

But then you see someone like Mohamed, right, who is Palestinian who went on Netflix, who has a show. Great show, by the way. Did you watch it? You watched all of it? Yeah. Why I had them on? Oh, yeah. You watched the last episode as well, of season two?

I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Okay, that's the most important one. So that's where he was in Palestine with the settlers, the Israeli settlers are there. But not actually in Palestine. No, no, no. No. Yeah.

I remember we were talking about it. I forget where exactly, but it was another, like they spoke Arabic there too. But anyways, like the scene, it takes place in Palestine, right? Yeah. Yeah. But if that's making it to Netflix and he is in movies with The Rock, Dwayne Johnson. Yeah. Come on.

Like, you know, him and Rami Yusuf are, I think, are paving the way. you know for for us so kind of on that note like people who are doing it what what other political speakers do you like their content of like other people mehdi hasan okay dude mehdi hasan i did a podcast with him i was invited onto his podcast which was such an honor this guy has been doing has been speaking about palestine or just like history in the middle east for longer than i've been alive i'm not joking i'm actually not even exaggerating there's a there's a little YouTube video like published when I was like five years old or something. You know what I mean?

Yeah. So crazy. Yeah. And it's he is just such a gem, bro. That that guy knows everything about everything. I think he is, he is one of the top people I look at in terms of for politics. I got to have him on. You need to.

You need to. He is. I need to get him in someone on the other side. Bro, you need that. Have like a little debate going on. He will, he has a book to teach you how, he has a book. I forget the name of it. Um, but it's how to win an argument, how to win arguments and how to debate.

He literally teaches people how to debate. This guy is insane. You could be wrong. He will still win the argument. Like, no, no, no, you will lose. You will lose. You can even tell them like, like, pretend to be Israel and I'll be Palestine. He'll beat you.

Like he'll, he'll somehow just find a way and. Yeah, that's the guy I want to talk to you. Dude. Yeah. He is something else, bro. You think about Nick Fuentes? I don't know, man. I don't know much about Nick Fuentes, but I, I don't know.

I honestly, I don't know. I don't know much about him, so I can't really tell you. What about Hassan Piker? Yeah. I love Hassan, man. San Abhi? Yeah, Husson, dude, best. I love him.

Beautiful guy. Beautiful guy. I love a lot of his takes. His takes on Palestine specifically as well are really good. I think he's for the cause. He's for the people. I love him. Yeah.

Have you ever done any content with him? Dude, we've always wanted to, and he messaged me about it as well. I messaged him, but timing just never worked. When I'm here, he's like seeing family overseas. When he's in Houston, he's there for like a day. I'm busy. There was just never time to do it. But I think this year for sure, we will definitely get something, hopefully.

He's such a brilliant mind. Who do you really want to collab with that you haven't collab with? Man, I've collaborated with a lot of people. Like if you had asked me last year, I would say Mahdi Hassan. I'd say Bassem Yusuf. I'd say Dr. Gabor Motei. I'd say these names. Bench Spiro.

Yeah. Pinchot. Throw the fuck in there too. Wouldn't that be dealt though? No. Okay. I don't know. I just, I like the.

No. Oh, do you like you like it? I like the fuck me. I mean, dude. Like, if you, if you want shirt, you just need to get like a scoreboard and put a Hamas counter. Just just put a Hamas counter and tally up how many times he said. Hamas and then I'll do it.

And if he reaches 100 Hamas in 10 minutes, interview's done. Interview's done, yeah, yeah. And then I'm willing to do it. Because that's his fucking answer for everything. Chamas. Chamas,

chamas, chameas. Terrorist. Yeah, terrorists. Like, shut up. It is kind of frustrated. It's like everything is someone else's fault. Yeah.

Like, dude, take accountability for bombing a hospital. Take accountability for bombing a school or killing a child. Why does it have to be, oh, well, there was a Hamas soldier inside. If you ask them, this question, and if you have an Israeli on, I urge you to ask them this. So why do you bomb a hospital in Gaza? Oh, because they have Hamas inside. So it's justified, right? Under international

law, quote-unquote, they think it's justified to bomb a hospital with Hamas, right? So tell them, okay, if you had an Israeli Jewish hospital with the Hamas soldier inside, would you bomb that hospital, get rid of the Hamas soldier, along with the Jewish civilians? They'd say, no. Why? Because Jewish life to them, Israeli life to them means more than Palestinian life. I've asked this question to dozens of Israelis online. They all have the same. same answer. It's yes for this. It's no for that. Yeah, they just view the life value different. Yeah. Which is, that's the, there's don't care. That's the crazy part about it all. Like, it's like, come on, man. Yeah. It's like, I, you just lose me there. There's no, I don't, I don't, I'm not,

I'm not Jewish. I'm not Muslim. I'm none of the, but I can see it from the outside and go, that's, there's an obvious, like, massive bias there. Yeah. And then the sadder thing, think is there's an obvious complete power difference where it's like you have one country that is funded by one of the world's biggest superpowers the United States. And like they have, you know, you know the saying with great power comes great responsibility. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like those same people go, yeah, that's true. But not, it's like, but what about this case though? Yeah. Yeah. That's where it's like, I don't need to be involved in any of this religious. I don't need to know about details of a thousand, three thousand years ago. None of that. All that. All that.

you can still look at it for what it is and go this you just know it's wrong yeah yeah I mean like why did you kill children well it was promised it was 2,000 years ago so we're getting this kid off the land like why is that their justification for not even that it's just like

why are you justifying killing anyone you know? Yeah well they would go oh it's not innocent and it's like a kid dude you know the average age of the children killed is five through nine years old so it's like you can't defend that you can't defend killing

over 10,000 five-year-olds. You just can't do that. Yeah. You know? I think that's why this, this, I don't know, call it PR, whatever you want for Israel has gone so bad is because like he, it's like everyone's just like, man, like no matter what you really believe religiously or, you know, occupational land, it's still just like, it's so blatant at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I've also, it had to, I apologize. It sucks that it had to get this far for it to be like, okay, now people are really like trying to, I guess, change it? Yeah, I know.

And we're used to that where people want, like, they'll try to, quote, change it after it's too late, you know? We're used to that, man. I mean, this happens time and time again where not only with Palestine, though, like, this happens a lot. You'll see that happen with Ukraine and Russia as well, you know? People are like, oh my God, no, no, no, after it's too late. And now they're trying to help after it's ready, like, taken over and people were killed,

Right. It's not, it's so, I feel like it's performative for some people as well that are like, they just want to be on the right side of history, you know? So it's, I think there's a lot of people like that. Like Pierce Morgan is a very good example. He started off bashing Palestine and now he's like kind of in the middle, if anything like more so supporting Palestine. And I think it's because he's realizing like in 10 years or like in even a few years, even next year, people are going to hate you if you don't support Palestine or if you're on Israel's side, you know? It's trying to get on the good side of people as well. But, yeah. You know, I wanted to mention this. I've met Zionists in person as well. I've had plenty of interactions in person with them. Where? Here, mainly.

L.A. Yeah, bro. Oh, my God. So bad here. I have so many stories. One is in Beverly Hills. This was like two years ago. I was going to this frozen yogurt shop with a few friends at like midnight.

and I'm about to walk into the door and they're like 15 girls outside, right, eating frozen yogurt. They already got their frozen yogurt. They're just eating it outside, 15, 20 girls, whatever. And they see me walk by and they freak out. They start yelling. Some of them are smiling, laughing, cheering, whatever, right? I think these are fans. I think these are supporters, if anything, pro-Palestinians or even Palestinians, right?

So I yell, free Palestine? They all start yelling in Hebrew. They all like, they're Israeli. They're all Israeli. I'm like, oh, shit. I'm in a war zone right now. Like, where are the fucking? I'm like, I walk into the store.

I lost my appetite. So I'm just waiting for my friends to get their frozen yogurt. But some of the girls like barge in with me as I'm in. And one by one, they come behind me and they whisper words in my ear. Like, for example, pedophile. One said pedophile. They'll just call me names, you know? And I'm like, what the f f***ing?

I ignore it. I am calm the way I am in my videos. And then they go back. and they start refilling their frozen yogurt again. I'm like, you guys just ate. You know, fat. Is there a, I'm just joking. I'm just stupid.

They start refilling their frozen yogurt. I'm confused because they're not putting any toppings on it. It's plain vanilla yogurt. It's plain chocolate. Who the f***es that? I'm like, yeah, I'm like, what are you doing right now, right? So it's like one by one. The first person did it.

I didn't question. The second person did it. Okay. Third person, fourth person, fifth person. they start piling up their frozen yogurt and they go back out and there's a ledge outside the door it's like so all these girls are lined up and by the ledge and their hands are deep in the frozen yoga and they're ready to talk no way yeah yeah they're ready to frozen yogurt attack me man that's funny yeah holy so that that's one experience and then obviously like I still like I

stayed back. My friends were yelling at them and threatening call the police, whatever. They split the seas like Moses. They opened the gates for me and I ran. I just, you know, I ran out. And I ran into a group of like Israeli guys and it was just another show. But dude, I've had so many interactions like that. I've had the police at my door. I've had the FBI at my door. I've had my. What the fuck is the FBI coming to talk about? I mean, they're looking for Hamas weapons. They're searching for like in your house. Yeah. In Houston. Yes. Yeah

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait Yeah, yeah, yeah I mean, I've had Wait, yeah, I've been followed by the FBI For like weeks You're not like trolling I'm not trolling For like views

Because that's a clip No, no, I'm not trolling So you've had people Show up to your house in Houston That were like, hey, we're the FBI Bro, two FBI Agents knocking on the door

And it's like as you've seen the movies They pull out the badge Like FBI, you know Like it was like that Yeah So then they come in And they can just walk right into your house Well, no

but if you say no, you're going to cause problems. So we welcome in. We welcome them in because we're not trying to, we have nothing to hide as well. You can search every inch of my house if you want. We have nothing to hide. I'm making videos online, bro. You know what I mean? Yeah.

So I'm not going to, it is an inconvenience, but I'm not going to be like, oh, I have rights though and this and that, even though I should and people should if you are in the same boat at any point, you should do that. but I just I just knew that you know it's just gonna escalate if I do that so interesting I didn't bother but

yeah that's one instance I got spotted so they come in your house what happens so they sit down with my parents and they're like because I was sleeping at the time and then I got up and then I came down because it was regarding my son or regarding

it was regarding when my mom was like it's this regarding my son whatever so I come back down and then they're talking to me and they're like, this is in regards to like holding people a hostage or like, they got like, they don't ever tell you the full claims because they want to assess the situation first. They don't want to tell you what they're coming for until, you know,

they have fully assessed the situation. So anyways, long story short, I have the FBI and speed dial now. Like I kind of know them at this point because I've been called by them so many times and I've had them at my doors multiple. times. Dude, you know what you need? A Jewish lawyer. I need a Jewish lawyer. Yeah. Settlement. Yeah. That sounds insane. You can't just come in someone's house. I know, I know.

I know. I know. I had that and then I also, I've been swatted multiple times before that as well. That one makes sense. Yeah. I've been swatted plenty of times. But FBI coming to your house is like, no, I've had, I literally, and I think they were following me too because they would tell me like, oh, what were you doing like walking your dog outside at this time or whatever? I'm just like, How do you know I was walking my dog at that time and that day? Whatever. You know? And yeah.

Bro, that's insane. And this is, that was one instance where, because the FBI, it's not one time. Like, it's a few times. And that,

that first time was actually before October 7th, the first time in the FBI, FBI, Kunoi door. And that wasn't for looking any, for any weapons or anything. That happened afterwards. Um, but,

ah, man, I've been through so much, uh, with the streaming stuff. You got a case for real on that one. Yeah. That's not.

Yeah. Yeah. Can't just do that. I know. I know. I know. I definitely think I do. Especially with like the people that are calling them to my house. That's the main thing. It's like the people, those are the real problems. It's not really the police coming to me. They're being, they're just doing what they're told to do. I don't necessarily hold anything against them. But they should also know better. Like, yo, this is a prank. Why are you, you know, falling for it?

Yeah, I get people who spot my gym all the time. Yeah. It's so annoying, dude. It's so annoying. I've had, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God. dude, 9-11 and 2021 was crazy. I had the NYPD call me on my phone when I was at home. And it sounded like a little girl on the phone. I was just like, bro, this is a spam call. So I hung up literally in a split second, police are at my door. I'm not joking because I hung up on the NYPD.

Why were they acting like a little girl? They weren't. It was a girl speaking to me. It just sounded like a little girl. It just sounded. To me, I thought it was a troll. I thought I was being trolled. So I thought it was a prank call, so I hung up.

And then the police were just at my door immediately. And apparently there was like this bomb threat that was made in New York and Times Square under my name. Oh, yeah. And they were threatening to blow the whole thing up saying that I did it and I was going to do it or whatever. So I had the NYPD on my ass. I had Canada police, Canadian police somehow were on my ass. Oklahoma police, Houston police. I think that's about it.

When you were in those places? No, I was in Houston. and all of these officers were after me. Canadian police were in Houston? Well, I don't know if they were in Houston, but they were told, like, yo, go to this. The report came from Canadian police. Oh, so someone in Canada was like, yo.

Yo, go to this out. Oh, I thought you talk about like some Canadian police where I was like, they don't got jurisdiction in Houston. No, no, no, no. Oh, okay. Yeah, but they're being reported to, like, for all of these officers to come. Yeah, I see.

Yeah, all of these different. Yeah, it's stupid. It's so dumb. Anyways, yeah, all of that happened. And then that's still that still happens here and there. Like I'll still have some like police activity near my house. But it's not as crazy as it was. And like now it's it's I'm, I'm in a better position with the police.

Like they they have, it's like familiar faces at this point that they come to my door. I'm like, yeah, like we know what this is. Like it's a false call. Whatever, you know. And they'll do it at like 3 a.m. bro. Like these calls will happen at 3.4 a.m. And the thing is, man, like if it, if I was the only one, living there, like, I don't mind. But if I'm with my family, bro, that's just different, you know?

Yeah. That's where you don't, that's where you just don't with that. You know, I don't like that. Yeah. You got to get your own spot. Yeah, you're being an activist. You got to get your own spot. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I do. I really do, honestly. But yeah, and then I've had other interactions with Zionists in New York. In the airport, I'm just walking by. Another Israeli walks by, he sees me. And he yells, I'm Israel. I'm Israel. And he just looks at me and yells it in front of the whole, like, it's in the middle of the airport. Like, what the, the fuck and he just keeps walking like okay i've had other ones in the subway i've had some in the gym um you know yeah it's crazy it's crazy but i guess as a live streamer like you're you're you're almost

like there's so much more of that no as a contact creator in general i don't know if there's as much of that as there is for live stream which there's some reason yeah like there's more of what i'm saying yeah for for lifetrooms yeah there is yeah because like they they'll a lot of times they'll try to get you when you're live. Yes, yes. And honestly, the best way to play it is, like, obviously, if you want clips, then, then, like, feed into it if you want, but I was never for that. That's the troll in you. What? That's the troll in you. That's the troll. Yeah. You know, you know, you know, but that's not the good answer. But that's, but I would never do that, and I've never have, I never have. Every time I got swatted, no one would ever know. Like, I would

end my stream, like, yo, guys, I have to go eat. And I would end it. Yeah. So clean. Yeah. You know, otherwise they just keep doing it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, but that's why it slows down because you're not acknowledging it, you know? Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah, so what else you do in L.A.? So I have this festival that I'm going to, the O.C. Mina festival. And that's happening tomorrow.

It's an orange county. So I'm going to drive there right now. It's tomorrow 20th and 21st. So I'm hosting a podcast in the festival. It's a live audience podcast like 500 to 1,000 people. Yeah, it's going to be cool. It's going to be for my channel. I've never done like podcasts.

You're doing a live podcast for YouTube. Yeah, for my channel. Yeah. But it's not going to be live streamed. It's going to be alive with the live audience. Oh, just filmed live. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's going to be like 500 or 1,000 people in the audience, like watching it happen. Asking questions and sure like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's going to be with Anna Kasparian. I don't know if you know who that is, but the young Turks.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's going to be with her. So she's really outspoken on Palestine. And she's joining me for a one-on-one discussion about it. and then I'll do like a meet and greet session after that in a Q&A or whatever. And yeah, so it's going to be fun.

But there's going to be like artists performing, Mohamed Asaf, which is like one of the biggest Palestinian artists. He's going to be performing as well. So it's going to be pretty fun. Yeah. Well, bro, I appreciate you coming, man. Of course, man. Of course.

There's definitely a lot more to talk about. But maybe that's for episode too. Yeah, I'm definitely down to do it again. I'm actually, I mean, you're so young. Yeah. Like I'm really curious where this all takes you. Yeah. No, I am too.

I'm living it by the day at this point, you know, because when you're speaking about Palestine, it's very dicey with where you're going to be in like a year or two. Yeah. You have to take it, you know, day by day. But we're going to keep pushing. We're going to keep trying. Maybe I'll do some gym content. Yeah, I'd love to if you ever want to, man.

God bless you, bro, for real. No, thanks for what you do. I appreciate you, man. Thank you so much.