RAWTALK - How an Ex-Junkie Became a 250-Mile Ultramarathoner

Episode Date: May 27, 2025

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Let's get into this podcast. This guy ran a million miles and I'm struggling to run five. So maybe we can bet on that, put that on price picks, put a little bet on that. I think over under five miles in the week, that's probably going to be under and you'd win some money. Anyways, I love you guys. Let's get in this spot. All right. So first off, obviously you're here because right now your life's super interesting to me because I'm terrible at running.

I want to be better at running. You're like an ultramarathon, which is crazy. Yeah. We'll get into all that stuff. But I remember, like, my first interaction with you was, like, about 12 years ago, which is why this is cool kind of doing this podcast with you, like, full circle now. I was, like, kind of just getting into the space. I was, I had no, no YouTube.

I was popular kind of on Instagram, so I would get invited to certain events and certain things. And you were working at this club Warwick, which is it still, is it still around? Still open. Yeah. Same spot, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

So that's on, like, sunset? Or? Sunset and Wilco. You got to know, right? Yeah. Anyways, I remember one time, like, I think you're like, I was like, it was the bathroom. You shouldn't where the bathroom is? And I don't think there was a bunch of people like doing drugs or something, but I just

remember being in a situation being like, I'm just going to pee and then leave. And it's funny because I think you were just in a circle. Like your life now is so different than your life then. Correct. And I knew you then, and you were always the same dude. You're always just a nice guy. Obviously, you went through a bunch of shit. we'll get into that stuff too but um i guess the first question i really have is why did you decide

to go from like fucking i don't want to say anything bad just that that that that side of the world which is like clubs promotion like kind of just nonsense from my perspective yeah because even when i remember when i was younger i never really enjoyed doing shit like that at all and i know like people like live for that shit yeah it's kind of dying down now like it's not as popular as it was definitely not when we were doing it like 12 years ago. But why did you decide to go from that to this? And I know a little bit of the story, obviously, because we've spoken about it. But for the people who maybe don't know, because they're going to click on this because it's like, dude runs a million miles, basically,

and it's like, it's just so funny to me knowing where you were 12 years ago to where you are now is like completely different. It's like, you know, those means where there's like a road where they're like this way or that way, you know, it's like, it's like a freeway ramp, it's like, yeah, fucking druggy, fucking promoter guy or some shit to like, like, ultra marathon. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess like long story short, went through a period of like this cancel culture situation, got accused of things I never did and what year was this?

The situation happened in 2017 and then the whole, right when I opened my gym, yeah. Yeah, and then, like, the whole story popped off, like, start of, like, COVID, like, 2020 because some dude just tried to, like, twist the whole story and it worked, you know, and, like, um, you know, got accused the things I never did, um, disappeared for a while and then just popped back online and got sober during that time and probably had, like, the best eight months of my life. I was just off. I thought, I'll be honest. I remember what stuff was happening. I was like, this dude's never coming back to the end. That's what most people thought. Never. Yeah. And, yeah, my story's out there. It's on the internet.

I wrote a book on it. So, like, it's all out there. It's, there's nothing hidden from it. And, yeah, I just started. But give a brief synopsis. Like, you were involved in basically, like, this, a girl had passed away. Yeah, basically a girl had left my house. Yeah.

At, like, tan something in the morning. Because we had people over at the house. And then she went an after-partied somewhere else. And then she was found overdose at that house. house, which I wasn't present at. Yeah. And then basically, I got twisted into the story because when the police came to me, I gave them my phone.

I gave them my text messages, didn't delete anything because I didn't do anything wrong. Yeah. They went through it and they're like, all right, cool, you're innocent to us. If we need anything else from you, well, you pick up the phone and talk to us. I'm like, sure. Because you were just like, honest, he's in the best of us. Well, I mean, I talked to Laurelors, like, they can just talk to me. You don't need to talk to them at this point, you know?

And so I wasn't answering them. So when they came, they basically, like, raided my house. and they came with like a bullshit warrant and didn't have like and i didn't i didn't i never even i've never had something like that happened to me before so when they came over with the warrant i didn't even look at it so they basically went up and down my house they were looking for something on me so i would talk to them eventually i was just like oh what do you guys want yeah we want your phone so okay go through it if you find anything wrong you can take my phone and do whatever you want but i delete anything if you find anything that's off let me

know you know and cool we're done boom boom boom done and then two years later the family put out like a civil lawsuit against like I don't know seven of us six something like that and basically took my text message that I gave to the police and twisted it to make it look like it was about their daughter when it wasn't and that's how I got involved in it basically being being honest kind of fucked me at that time but at the same time like I don't know this also put me like going through that situation like changed my life in a positive matter where like you know I got sober and I feel like my life now is full of meaning and real purpose where I'm helping other people get sober. That's a good point.

I have a question about this. Was it when all the stuff started coming out, had you already kind of split ways with the club? Or were they like, yo, you got to split ways because of this. Yeah, I mean, like we talked on the phone a few times and like, hey, we're going to put out this like statement basically. But the club wasn't even open anyway. So I was just like, do what you guys got to do. Yeah. Because they were getting attacked as well, too.

be like, oh, these guys knew, da-da-da-da, whatever they were saying, you know, they put them in a tough position. I was upset at that time where I was like, you guys should have had my back more. You guys know I didn't do anything wrong. You guys knew, I've told you guys about this story. Yeah.

You know, so like, it just was a tough position. I'm not mad at them now. I'm cool with them now. And like, you know, it was just in that moment. You know, you feel like you kind of wanted that support and it wasn't really there. Yeah, they had to protect themselves. It was just, dude, it was such a rough time.

I don't, I mean, the word cancel culture didn't even exist at that time. I should be in like the dictionary he's the first person down for that that situation because like the word did not exist at that time and it was gnarly this was like through like this is like when the me too movement popped off this is when everyone was stuck in their houses because they told everyone not to leave their houses because of all the COVID bullshit so like people had nothing but time to like dig in this stuff I looked at the story and I was like damn they did a good job at twisting the shit yeah you know

so that's when I just kind of put out a statement saying I never gave the girl drugs I wasn't even wither and basically just deactivated all my accounts and was just like and then put the statement up on my website and was just like I'm going to figure out I'm going to bounce back from this like I'm not I'm not I'm not like looking over my shoulder sleeping like I felt like I did something wrong but I need to rebrand now like I need to figure out what it's going to be I had no idea I was going to turn into a runner or any of this stuff just started reading a ton of books and started running 100 mile weeks and but like how you just started started reading it and just started training so you were just like you didn't think that did you think running was going to be a thing that

you were going to like create a sort of brand around not at all i don't dude i'd zero idea what i was it's funny because back then too running was like no it wasn't it wasn't cool it's like i got five years ahead of everybody like i got sober and like this is what everyone's trying to do now it's almost like this this terrible shitty situation and unfortunate that someone passed and that i somehow got tied into this shit was pretty much the catalyst of why I ended up getting that last kick in my ass being like, all right, dude, you need to change your life now. And if it's not now, like, something bad's going to happen to you, you know? And that's when it like just flipped.

And I was just like, all right, I'm just going to run. I'm going to get sober and I'm going to figure it out. And that was it. So you didn't think running was going to turn to something. No way. I never thought I'd make a dollar from any of this stuff. And now it's like you're like full time. Yeah, that's what I do for like work now.

Fuck. When did it, when did it start to pick up? Like, when did you start to see opera? So like, you know, they always say you got to put it. time right i put it almost five years of grinding this situation of running and just documenting what i'm doing and it kind of just started turning into something like bigger last year and i was good you know they always say like it like this when like 99% of the people fall off right when right when you're about to hit that turn i was there i kept thinking like uh maybe i'll go back to hospitality i'll do

something the restaurant stuff and i was talking to other people that ran restaurants successful ones out here like we're going to do something and like it didn't work out i just kept punching with the running stuff and then boom it just started happening and it was just it was like it just it was like that last corner I had to get around how do you think that working and being in that space in that industry translated to this space it's right now in a positive way oh my networking is off the roof you know like it's just very easy for me to connect with people I mean I can connect brands very easily I'm still connected to all the connections I made over the last 15 years in nightlife which definitely like has so much

like a lot of those people I connected with no longer party anymore they're either doing some sort of health stuff now they're doing some other cooler stuff everything's transitioning yeah like the health industry is just did people come back who like at one point were like you know

this guy's fuck I won't even talk to this guy I hear people be like you know they'd run into like big DJs and oh they said this guy like this guy's done for good he'll never be back like it's the end for him then I'll see them the next week like oh I was believed in you bro and like just like you have but you have people like that Oh, yeah. I got a whole mental note in my head.

I just don't say anything to them. I got a whole list of the motherfuckers in my head. You know, I don't hate that. That's such a whack feeling, though. But this is how this industry is, bro. They're just quick to turn their back and they're quick to just be on their knees a second. You got something good going on for you. It's just nothing really like real in that industry.

You know, I met some, I met you. I met some good people. But we didn't really meet because of the club. You barely came out. But because I was in nightlife, I met you know what I'm saying? So I got to look at it in that light. That's true. It's funny years later.

Now it's like, I mean, this has been my life forever, but what, what would you say that running, I guess taught you about yourself in relationship to what you kind of already thought of yourself as being like this, you know, club, because I remember, bro, you were like the guy, like in the, in like the fit, excuse me, the fitness, in the nightlife life, like everyone would mention you. Like you were the guy, you know, like host little party things or set up, like you were just the glue to so many different things. I remember knowing that.

like oh this is the guy this guy like knows everyone like like a lot of the early influencers everyone that these people like like like logan paul or like the viner's all those guys they all went out with me they all mentioned oh yeah you got hit this guy up yeah yeah i was connected to pretty much everybody and i think that was like my thing i was just i was always myself and genuine and i feel like people were able to like read off of that and i didn't give no cookie cutter bullshit to people and it was just mean if i didn't like you i don't like i don't like you and like i don't I mean, you could come to the club and be the biggest celebrity. And, like, if you're a dick, I'm like, get out of the table.

We don't need you here. You know, who was a dickhead to me? I'll never forget it. I went there once. I'm going to say, it was that, geez, he was such an asshole. No way. He's a nice guy. He was probably just cooked.

Yeah, well, it's, yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe. Because, you know, also, too, it's like, I think I went up to him because, like, you know, he was like a Bay area artist because I was from the Bay. And I was like, oh, I'm from the Bay. And I think he was just like, what fuck? He just gave me one of those looks. No, you got to remember, dude, these guys are at the club. They're just, they're chasing tail.

They're cooked, you know, like he's a nice guy, you know. He's got, he's got his fair share of partying like we all do. That was just my one interaction at that club specifically where I was like, what the fuck? I was just trying to be nice to this guy. Yeah, yeah. No, he's a good guy. He's always a good friend to me and, yeah.

Everyone kind of always had a bad, like, I've had bad interactions, certain celebrities. And then the second or third time around, they were like, oh, man, I was just fried or I was fighting with my girl or like, whatever it is, you know, imagine someone comes up to in the gym, you're fighting with your girl and like coming up to you midset while you got like some corn blasting. You're trying to take a photo with you. You're just like, yeah, I'm not in the mood for this right now. I've definitely been. I'm sure there's people out there who are like, this guy's an asshole to me too. So. Yeah. So has there been anyone that like really stood out celebrity wise that you're like, damn, this person is really fucking cool and you wouldn't have

thought. Like when you were in that night life space. Um, man, it's just hard to think. I met so many people. Um, I don't know. I was just kind of friends with a lot of these guys. And then the people that I weren't like, I think I was like butted heads with Bieber at the start. That was like the main one. Oh, we always butted heads. And we ended up being super cool and he kind of like changed his life around as well too.

And like kind of we started. He was a kid though. Yeah. You know. But like, I don't know, man. Everyone was pretty cool. But what would you butt heads?

He's like, yeah, I wanted this table, not that one. He's just, his ego, bro. He's just young, man. He just like,

it was just a lot coming at him fast. He was like. He was still a king now. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like, or like they're almost like you know he made a post about that long time ago he felt like he was

like a zoo animal you know like where he just i think he still feels that way yeah you know what i'm saying so like they're just they just they just they just they were brought up a lot different than you know a normal human being and it's just like you know that guy man he blew up at like 15 16 year old so it's just like i think there's just so much coming at those guys so fast it just don't normally really deal with it and as time went on like you know we had a lot of times we butted heads and just like you know he had written me apologies and just like yo man that wasn't me that wasn't in my heart and like he turned you know he figured it out you know he didn't just leave it as all like man i was a dick that day and just like never said

anything or whatever it was he knew you know and then like he would just kind of flip things around and you know he just came around to be a good dude yeah let's talk about running some more and on that on that idea of like figuring things out at what point were you like oh okay this is something i really want to go down like i really want to be great at this because to you know we'll talk about this more but to to do what you do the ultra marathons like different than a marathon different than just running a mile or a couple it's it to me it's mentally like I can't even wrap my brain around running for what three four days straight yeah and then like taking little breaks and like drinking some water maybe a 15 20 minute nap from what I understand and like it's almost

like you you don't win anything but you do like you don't really win money it's a journey man no you just you have sponsors you make money okay so like there's no prize money they're starting to like they're going to start implementing it. I think there's like this 200 mile race and mammoth that they're doing. I think there's like a bigger prize money for it. I fucking love mammoth. Yeah. Dude, dude, you got to run that one. Yeah, I think, I think it's going to be the plan. I've been, I've been talking to the, uh, or

was talking to the race director about it. Why do you think running got so popular? Dude, I, I don't. Like, right now it's like one of the most popular things on the year. Yeah, I don't know, man. I think like people are starting to experience like the runners high. Obviously, like, these run clubs are popping up because there's like hot girls going to them and like dude are going. It's like, it's almost trying to like a full date fest. know like dude it's here this is something that I was so perfect you're here nightlife for the most

part like in places for example like LA it was like nightlife was it was it was like you get some sort of cloud or money or popularity or fame I guess back then and you were like you're at the club like just posts up like you were the man no one really cares about that shit no it was dude you're you're completely right about that like in like I don't know like I'd even say like any time like 2010 to 2015 even then like I mean, health wasn't pushed on anybody. Like, it wasn't cool to be aware. You weren't, you weren't that cool at that time, you know?

Like, you would just start, like, they hated meatheads coming to the club. Yeah. Like, I'd have these big bodybuilders, Mr. Olympia's coming. They're like, you guys? And I'm like, yeah, they're dope. And they're like, all right, if you say so, you know? And like, now you guys are like glorified. Yeah.

You know, like, it's a whole different ballgame. Back then, you were cool if you were running a club. You were cool if you were out late. You were cool if you were getting fucked up. Like, that was cool then. And it was a kind of part of the job, you know? Why do you think, why do you think it's, I think to answer social media, but why do you think it's shifted so much? I agree with you. I think the whole social media changed the whole game. And like now like,

hot girls don't need to be out to meet other celebrities or rich people, whatever. They just get a DM and they're already on a yacht in Monaco and like a day. You know, and it's just like it's quick. You know, back then like you had to be at the club. There's a guy with like a 20K table. These girls are shifting around the whole table looking to see what's going on. Like you're trying to get picked. Yeah. It's not, it's not like that no more. People like in LA and stuff are still going to like house parties and stuff like that. or if there's a big DJ spinning than someone does it in the after. People don't, from what I'm watching and from the people I still talk to that go out,

like the nightlife is pretty much like whack now. And she's just kind of dead. It seems like fitness. Like the club now is just like gym. Fitness is turn off. It's huge. I think there's like some sort of statistic of like, this generation between like 21 and like 25 is like they're,

the alcohol consumption is like so low in percentage of like them. But buying alcohol, it's like literally 35 and up. Yeah. It's still like our crowd of people. still stuck in that realm. Yeah. I mean, these younger kids, they're all,

everyone's doing hell of drugs and stuff now. Like, it's pretty, yeah, they're doing other drugs. Yeah. Yeah, it's,

it's crazy. So, so you think, you think social media, it's just completely changed it. 100%. Yeah. I used to always like,

when Logan, when Logan would come in and shit, I would always tell them, like, man, thank God, like, like my income isn't based off of, like, YouTube and shit like that.

Because, like, one thing goes wrong, you guys are cooked. If they take down the internet, you guys are fried. and now my entire like my entire life is social media like this is like it's literally turning I never I never thought that like this would turn into like you know what I'm doing is going to social media stuff yeah all right guys quick and roads for the podcast listen I'm a big gene guy

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obviously it was gonna be like dumbass go outside put some shoes on and run around the block but like if I was a kid I was like yo I want to do ultramarathons or I just want to do marathons or I want to get into this maybe it's the run club thing is the starting point yeah I'm like a lone soldier I don't know if like I'm not like a run club guy I feel like run club is like more social I think if you want to like tap in you just got it like dude you're like the old school body glows it's like

that shit's whack yeah I mean it's cool I don't post my shit I don't I just do it's a run club you know it'll be fun like you know we're talking about that so it's like yeah i would i would do that i need to be able to run though i need to run at least well you guys heard it here first i'm gonna train bradley and we're gonna get a run and then we're gonna start a run club i need to be able to run at least five miles straight yeah this but how do you do how do you like dude not it's just not that easy like not many people can just start running five miles i think if you got on a treadmill every day and just like made a goal like put like okay first week you run one mile whatever that goal is if it's 10 minute mile slow mile and you just stay on that treadmill

until it's done every day no matter how fast it is yeah no matter how fast you just finish that mile then once once that kind of gets easy then you add another mile what do you have to walk a little bit of it that's what i'm saying dude i don't know man i'm like maybe running maybe running isn't for you my man you never had to run you never had to walk a mile like i mean when i'm doing a 250 mile race different story but like i think like even when i was younger i would be like all right i'm going to run three miles and i'm going to start at 730 pace and then i'm going to drop to 715 and then over time I just started running three miles at the gym almost like five days a week at an eight like in a six minute pace so 18 minutes and I would just get off I just wanted to get it over with I wasn't

enjoying it just wanted it to be done so how do you know you're ready for an ultra marathon I mean my advice would be like all right train for a half marathon do the half marathon get the feel of it train for a marathon do a marathon then you can do a 50k which would be an ultra marathon so anything over 26.2 miles is ultra so then that's it I mean it's not honestly like for you I would just like do a half marathon and then maybe just jump the thing about the half marathon the full marathon most people want to run the whole thing no one's like really walking that's trying to do good in it with the with the ultra marathon you're going up and down mountains and stuff like that so you can power hike the ups and then jog the flats and downs you can carry food you can carry water so like

you know you can enjoy it you got time to nap if you want to nap but like i don't know if anyone's nap being a 50k but like you could if you really wanted to i feel like i'm doing a whole stop for a day dude there's there's there's like there's people out there that are like huge bro there's no There's like huge people, like really over overweight people and they'll like do these long races. Like they're huge. I'm not, I'm not kidding you. And they like have the mental to go stay out there and they do it. I'm like, like you look at them and you're like, there's no shot.

This is happening. But they're walking some. They have to be walking. Yeah, but it doesn't matter. It's still getting it done. When you're doing an ultramarathon, you don't remember it's not a full run. Like you're power hiking, you're jogging, you're running. You're running.

Like it just depends on how you do it. I mean, if you're trying to win it, you're still power hiking a lot of it because you're climbing almost 40,000 feet in a 200 mile race like there's no way anybody's running the whole thing at that point. So there's just like, you know, it's just like about playing it smart and making a game plan. Like for me, when I have a long race, I always power hike all the ups. I don't ever run them. I'll maybe run some of them at like, you know, the first half of the day. You try to run the whole thing. You'll just cook your entire body. You won't be able to do the whole race like that. So how do you like, I mean, obviously you got to listen to your body, but like how do you know when to say when to like slow down

or speed up or yeah that's like it sounds like you want to win at i got a competitive way like you want to be one of the first for you to do it yeah i always just try to come in the top percent of the guys or whatever it is but like i think at the the start of it you just kind of want to be able to get it done you don't really care if anybody can completely 200 mile rates i got respect for you like anyway it's like i think it's like the toughest sport in the world to do it's tough it's so hard like you want to quit majority of the time you're out there you're in your head the whole time you're in pain you're suffering you're not really getting any high is like you're just miserable for the full for full time why the fuck so like that's the thing

what what's the i don't know you know i find happiness in the suffering and i think like you know cam haynes talks about that goggins talks about that and there's something like maybe there's like some sort of replacement of not doing drugs and drinking anymore that i find in like the suffering and then like the after effect of like finishing it is like the high there's no high during it really you know you get some spur for like you know you're on a mountain and you're looking at like last race we're looking over Sedona you know we're in this crazy climb to get through Sedona we're climbing to the top of the mountain but when you're up there running on the ridges you're like holy shit this is lit you know nature is fucking lit you know when you're out there

it's like a high second year it's just dope and uh yeah I guess that's like the only way to really explain it there's just some sort of happiness within the suffering but so so we were talking earlier just about like social media and just in general like you know I guess sort of life people's highlight reel and all this stuff. Is there any part of you that just like, now you do it because you want to show off? No, I'd say like I feel a little empty when I'm not doing it. I feel like it's created a little bit of purpose for me where like I like to go race and I know like there are hundreds of thousands of people looking at what I'm doing and they're

getting inspired by it. You know, I get messages every single day of like, yo, your post motivate me. The second you post your little morning motivation stuff, it's got me to go run. So I almost feel like I have like this duty to pay. in a sense. So like the social media stuff definitely is a push but you know

when I was off the grid for eight months I wasn't posting any of the shit I was running 100 mile weeks nobody even knew what I was doing I'd still be doing this if I wasn't on social media the race is for sure

kind of push you you know like we're like all right I need to race more I feel like the social media stuff kind of pushes you to race more but I enjoy the grind it's a journey man

who are the best who are the best in that like ultra marathon space right now who are the top people There's so many of them. There's so many. Are there any girls? Yeah, there's some dope girls.

A girl Courtney Dollwater, my friend, Sally McCray. There's a lot of good people. There's a lot of good people in the sport, and it's starting to really blow up. Like, it's starting to become really popular. But the 200 space is very niche. It's a very small percentage of us that even finish these races. Say like 40% finish. Like, so how many people is that?

I don't know. Not much. They only let through. So, like, thousands of people will apply to get in these races, and they only let 300 people race. So either got to win a lottery or you got to be the first to sign up right when they do it. Like the last race, you just saw me do that Coca-Dono 250. Yeah. It's so popular because so many elite ran it this last race.

And they just marketed really well. And I guess I heard in the first 10 seconds it sold out. So how do you get, how do you get accepted to do that? You just, you were in the first 10 seconds to do it or they? No, I mean, obviously, like, either got to get in or you got to bring something to the sponsors or social media stuff. stuff like that and there's a lot of controversy on that because the guys with no social media are like all these guys all get into the races they don't have like the same rules as us blah blah but you know we all worked for this shit we worked here we created a brand a self brand and unfortunately

and fortunately and fortunately you got to market yourself if you want to do well you know so out of 300 people how many people finish like how many people finish I think I don't want to say I'm correct on this but like when I last checked all the like did not finish is before the race was even over there was like 160 out of three out of 300 so i i don't know if more i don't know if 130 of us finished or 120 but like less than half and and who were like what are the top like how do they how do you know that someone's in the top is it like their time everyone has yeah it was overall time so we all start at the same times however you get to that finish so who got number one in that one this guy dan green finished in like i think 58 hours just insanely fast i mean i don't we have

no idea how this even possible but there's always there's always that anonymous in the race. 50 something hours? 58 hours. I mean, I finished I think in 89. Holy shit. Guys is just a fucking machine.

Yeah. I mean, granted, like, we got, I mean, he had a cheat. No. He's taking steroids. He was just, he's looking at him. He's a normal looking cat.

Yeah. Like, what? Yeah. Wait, so 50 hours, though, so break that down. 58 hours, yeah. So how fast is that?

How many, um, I don't know. I would need, I would need to like, like, look at the, let's do the math. Let's do the math on that.

I want to sew 58 hours. So you're implementing sleep, poop, eating, all this stuff. And he still finished it in 58 or 59 hours, something like that. So it's not, I think someone did the math on it. Some guy made like a whole reel on it. And he said, like, his average was like, hypothetically speaking, was like eight something per mile, which is like actually bonkers. But like, I think he was like, he was like kind of leveling it out if basically there was

no climbing. And I don't know how he did it. and just go like one of those just because it's all tracked on the GPS oh so he can't just hit like a fucking yeah no no like if you start cheating turns they'll know because at the end they can like in especially if you win they start looking into all these things you know yeah so like holy shit yeah I mean I had a terrible race

so like either a good race there's dudes that like we're supposed to get first place and and made it to 13 miles left of the race and they got like rabdo or you know they don't finish and cam did that race right cam did it yeah he was a couple hours ahead of me we ran we we we got some what was his number i think like 85 84 84 85 i heard he was running on a broken foot yeah he's running a broken foot i was running on like he's like 60 or something 57 signed that yeah yeah my knees were i got injured four weeks before that i wasn't supposed to race everyone was talking shit to me you're not going to finish don't do it your knees are your knees are cooked you had to drop out of the last race and i was like fuck these cats but who's talking shit like

people online yeah yeah i mean dude majority of people people are being positive but you always catch you catch those yeah you you can see 5,000 positive messes but you catch those three and them motherfuckers are like all right they stick to you I'm running this race for these guys right yeah they stick to you fucking why is it like no name username in my head fuck you hope you fail yeah he's in my head this one's for him your knees your knees are done you got to quit running you know this one's for him how long do you think you're run for till the wheels fall off you know I don't know what I'll be doing man like everyone's like oh what are you thinking you're doing five years I'm like dude I don't know I'll figure it out when the time

comes i don't know when i'm gonna die i don't know you just don't know what's gonna happen so i'm just what i'm enjoying right now yeah yeah that's a i mean just in life in general that's seems to be the the trick right is is what you're doing are you actually enjoying it are you actually enjoying it yeah are you enjoying this more than your previous life oh yeah dude there was just i was miserable man you know you look at on the outside like oh this guy hasn't made the girls Yeah, yeah. Celebrities, this, that. You always have bitches with you. Yeah, and, sorry, women. It's all good. You always had women with you. Yeah, man, I was, I was, I was definitely depressed on the inside. And, you know, the people that knew me knew, you know, if I stayed up with you and we got

fucked up and we talked, like, you knew, like you, I was never, my parents raised me really well. They've been married, they stayed married. And, like, I think, like, I, I, I really took after my dad in a sense. And I think I kind of put myself in this industry that I wasn't supposed to be in like that was not definitely not me living my truth and then my dad was a runner you know and I never thought I'd run he never thought I'd run and then I got it I got into running he was so stoked on that's crazy all he did is run marathons I never never never never used to talk shit to me and I was a kid oh so you're a cheater this is in your blood yeah it's not even that's in your blood my dad my dad my dad wasn't a runner his whole life either

he got into it like I think in his like in like closer to my age as well too okay yeah he just did marathon so he he's I he was he was doing aiming near what I'm doing. Yeah, fuck that guy, right? Who? You're dead? No way. No way. I love my. You're like, he can't do shit on it. Yeah, no, no, he was he is still. He actually passed a couple months ago and, uh, oh shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's all good, brother. Yeah, I never talked to you about that. But, uh, yeah, he, uh, this is like, a lot of the reason why I run now is because of him. I feel I got to carry on that legacy, you know? So, so he, but he's, so he's seen you complete runs then before. Oh, he saw, he saw my book. He saw everything, bro. I would have felt like a complete fucking loser. If like, he, he, he, he, he, he passed when I was still in nightlife and doing drugs and partying. And, like, he got to see my whole turn around.

He got to, he got to read my book. He got, he got to see pretty much all my 200s until, like, you know, a couple months ago, he just passed, you know, in March. So it's like, he got to see it all. And he, like, his memory was going bad, everything. And, like, he, oh, it's like, he would just, second I'd come in the house, he'd be like, did you run today? You know, and that was it.

Like, he didn't remember anything. How did he pass? Um, he had a, he had, he had a condition called superficial superficial sydrosis that was, like, slowly killing him. And, like, that didn't actually kill him. In this time, he got a multiple myeloma cancer. Oh, wow. Yeah.

And we had nobody had any idea of cancer. And he lived like, I think like seven, eight months after they said he was going to pass. So it's life, man. Yeah. I lost my dad when I was very young. Yeah. And I was six. Tough.

Yes. It's fucking. It makes you go like, oh, shit. And it's weird for me now because in two years will be, it will be when my age took his life when he, because I'm 30, When he's 38. So it's a weird, it's a very weird time in my life where I'm like, this is like strange. Like your perception of everything is so obviously. You were young though.

Yeah, very young. But now being older and then looking back on it and being like, damn, I'm not saying I don't get it. Like I don't understand like, I'm not saying it's a good thing or a validating he took his life. But as I've lived more of my life, I'm like, oh, I see like how complicated and how difficult and how like hard this can be for some people. Yeah. You know what it's like to get at the low points. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, yeah, man. I feel like if life goes the way it's supposed to, we all have to go through this. It sucks. You know, we all have to lose our parents. And I think it's better they go before we go, obviously. And, like, it's just a tough thing to deal with. But, yeah, it's life, man. And I feel like now, like, my run is for him, you know?

And most of these races, I carry, I made this, like, key chain of him. and I hook it onto my bag. And there's a picture of him running on the keychain. And I just kind of, I remember, like, I wanted to quit like 30 times during, like, that last race. Because we got hit with the storm, snowed and hailed. I thought I was going to get a hypothermia on the mount at one point. I just kept looking at it. And I'm like, nah, motherfucker, we're getting this done.

Yeah. It's a beautiful, man. We're getting this done. And you could flex on him always and be like, you never did what I did. You did. Yeah, but now he's doing it with you. Yeah, he's done. He's a great dad, man.

Yeah. I look up to that guy. man. He came over here as an immigrant and made a life for us and our family and didn't have shit, man. Loss his dad early and just fucking real, real worker, real man, you know? Yeah. That's rare these days. Yeah, you don't, you don't see that shit, man. But why do you think it's so, why do you think it's so rare these days? Like, maybe it's just a Western thing, like an American thing. Because I'm assuming like it's probably their motherfuckers in Russia are not talking like this. I don't know, man. It's crazy. I just saw a meme today

that said like, you know, like there was like this meme and it said like men used to go to war and like fight fight battles and then it's like another guy with like colored hair everywhere and being like yo you didn't you miss pronounce my pronouns you know it's like it's just like men today you know and it's just like yeah man there's just a lot of weak motherfuckers out there and I don't feel sorry for him anymore man it's just a choice dude yeah absolutely a fucking choice yeah I don't I've been through a lot of shit man I've been through a lot of mud I'm sure you have too man and uh yeah I got I think everyone likes to see uh the guy on top just get crumbled to the bottom and just like lose everything and come back man people like that

comeback story yeah it's weird how that's a it's a thing people are so enamored by that yeah you think you'd want people to support you while you do well yeah it's like most people try to like they do support you but a lot of them are like i'm maybe it's because where they're at in their life i think people respect like the resilience like when they can see someone like on top that hasn't gone through some shit and just get hit with something nasty get ripped apart and then and then see them come back and like damn that dude's dope like he fucking got through all this shit and came back and still made something else yeah is there anything you would do differently do you regret anything no i think like everything happens for a reason i think like if i like like i said if i

didn't go through like that whole situation i'd still be in the nightlife scene i might have been i might have been dead by now all the fucking fentanyl and these drugs and shit like yeah you know i was partying pretty hard so um yeah man it feels good to be out of that shit like i said i feel like i'm five years ahead of everybody now and like I feel like this this health kick is like so big right now and it's just dope it feels good it feels good like feeling like you just have real purpose and real meaning

like you're actually helping people in a positive matter like me hosting somebody at a club and getting them in and here's some free drinks like so whack like yeah who gives a fuck there's no mean to it it's just like it's just so whack and it's crazy because everybody we know was consumed in it

whether they were working in it or going out we all everybody went out was like a thing yeah because it was like the it was like the sort of victory lap before social media that's what it really was man it was social media now it's like now it's the victory lap i could post whatever i was like accomplishment whether it be like some car or some achievement or something that makes me look good clubs back then was like if you had a table and you had the girls that was like your outward representation of like yeah because this was i'm telling you bro this was like before social was like everyone had it everyone was on it just a different time completely different

But now social media is doing that in a whole different way. That's like there's this weird double-edged sword to it where it's like, is it really a good thing? I believe it is. But in a lot of ways, it can be like a really detrimental thing because that same concept that we spoke about seconds ago of wanting to see someone fall, I think people who use social media who like maybe have aspirations of greater things or more things in their life, they get so stuck on what other people are doing and like almost like the idea of like, where they're at is not where they want to be. So they'll look around at people where they want to be. And instead of thinking about like, what can I do to get there, they're thinking like kind of like what we were saying.

They're thinking like, oh, I kind of want to see this person fall. And all that energy they're using towards that is not going towards where they actually want to go. Yeah. It's just this weird social media. Like, I don't even know what to call it. But there's definitely that cycle that people get stuck in. And I think it holds a lot of people back. Yeah. I also think there's like the other part of it, like we were talking about earlier at lunch today, how like, you know, just like the same, the same attention I was seeking like in nightlife is now it comes on to social media as well, too, wanting your posts to do good, wanting the likes to come in and it's just something you could consume by it. And like we were talking about before, like, I don't want to post every single day on my page. Like, I'll post stories of it's very quick and easy. I'm not like, only I can see the engagement on that. I'm not like caring about all this stuff. So like you start posting every single day and you actually.

care about how your stuff is doing, I should consume me, man. Yeah, I trust me, I know. It consumed me. We were talking about I consumed me for fucking legitimately eight years straight. I think I was like forcing myself to post every single day. And a lot of my real life and for friendships, relationships just completely to the wayside and got fucked. But yeah, I was achieving this, these goals that I had are these numbers that I want to succeed at. But then you get to a point, you know, I'm older now and I'm like, it did really matter, but it matters now in a way different way. It's like almost like my perception of it is just like, did I fuck up?

Did I, did I waste time that could have been used in other ways? I struggle with that a lot, personally. I feel like you got to go through those things through trial and error to really understand. Like I think if you never went through that, you'd still probably be thinking like, oh, maybe I should be posting every single day. And like, maybe I'd be better at what I was doing if I was still posting every single day. So like I said to you, like even when I was in nightlife, like night life, like night life became, came before my family, my relationships, and I lost a lot of good shit because it, but I was

like the best at it. It's like I said, you got to obsess over whatever it is that you do to become the best at it, but we were both obsessing over the wrong things. Yeah. In a sense, right? Yeah. I think, I think I, I mean, it was a good thing, obviously. I don't think I would be where I'm at today if I wasn't obsessing over that. But yeah, it definitely affected like other aspects of my life, like relationship building and friendship. And those are the things that like, I find myself now being like, okay, that's the shit that actually really matters and i and i even to this day i struggle with it like i don't have a ton of like friends quote unquote you know i have a lot of people that i know a lot of acquaintances a lot of people

that i work with or engage with or interact with like on a day to day but like the friendship thing and maybe just in general having like real close core friends it's just you're you're you're just never going to have that many of them maybe that's just the thing in general i don't know i think in your in your position or at least most of the guys i knew that had big followings or had some sort of celebrity touch to them. Like, they had trouble becoming friends with dudes. And they didn't know who was using them. They didn't know who they wanted to open up to.

And they always closed off. And, like, I remember having a conversation with someone big that we both knew. And he would always be like, always had girls around. Girls, girls, girls, girls. And I'm just like, dude, you need some guy friends, bro. And he's like, no, like, I'm not trying to fuck with these dudes. And then, like, he made like two guy friends. And he was just like, bro, this is the best shit ever.

I don't care about these girls. And I'm just like, dude, you need some. some boys in your life like you got like you need it it needs to be there you got to have some friendships there you do you got me man yeah i appreciate you yeah man how how how how has this been for you i guess because like after the whole uh cancel shit and like you know that sort of perception of you i wonder if you struggled with creating relationships with females because you know in relationship to that story it was like oh this guy's a bad guy even though it wasn't that wasn't the truth it was just like you know with like

that situation it was like you know some girls were quick to peel off right it was the same people that were either shitty people in the industry that just like were just quick to peel off on anybody or talk shit about anybody and then there was like a lot of girls that read my book that looked into the situation they're like all right what do you guys want to be mad at this guy because of his fucking language like he didn't do anything wrong you know so like it's definitely like you know it's part of my story now I think like throughout the years every time I would be going to date a girl I have to explain the story here's my book you know they would read it they love it. Like, you know, last girl, I remember some girl I was dating last year. She was like,

man, I wish I had a book on every guy I was going to date. Like, this is great. Like, I know everything about you now, you know? And some girls were like, I don't want to read your book. I want to get to know you in person, you know? Like, it was just like that. But I don't think it ever, I personally didn't go through a thing where like someone's like, yeah, I'm not like, I just noticed somebody disappear or not fuck with me. And I'm thinking, oh, maybe it was because of this or that. And if it was, it was like somebody I just met randomly and didn't really know that well and it was just like I never really talked to them again yeah but yeah you know like a piece of me was like yeah this is bullshit that I even have to deal

with this but it's part of the story now and like like I said I don't think me and you would be sitting right here if I wasn't running 250 mile races so like yeah you know I don't think I don't think the club stuff would have been appealing to you to want to put somebody on your show yeah about club stuff so you know everything happens for a reason man and uh is what it is man man life goes on yeah how do you know how do you know what what helps you feel like you're doing the right thing in whatever you're doing like whatever you're working on um because back then you you you said moments ago or maybe 10 minutes ago you were kind of like you were pretty miserable but you were successful you had girls you got the money you had you had those things but you weren't

doing the right thing for you yeah i don't think i understood that at that time though i thought like me chasing the next car and the next model or like whatever next club we were going to open up like that that's what I thought like success was and then you come to a realization that I think once I finally sobered up where I was like you know none of this shit matters none of the shit matters and then I would start traveling and then I'm like nobody gives a fuck about what's going on it's just like this small bubble of maybe like a thousand people max and they're only the ones in that bubble that care about what's going on nobody in the outside world like it's been I wonder where where those guys are at tonight i wonder what like what party they're going to like nobody cares yeah

he's a shit and now like dude i i think like being on social media and just getting like so many messages a day people from reading the book to the things i post and just being like yo you changed my life i ran a marathon because of you i got sober because of you i'm reading your book for the six time like you know those are the things around like all right i'm on the right fucking path yeah yeah yeah dude texts me today this guy i didn't realize it's been this long this guy was going to take his life. No way. Yeah. You have the DM right now, huh? Well, I've, I've kept contact with him over the years. Oh, yeah. Because, uh, there was at one point where he was like, I told this story before, but he was basically, he was like tweeting me. Yeah. Some people were like, you should respond

to this guy. He's like going to, he's going to like off himself. And, uh, I responded to him. And he was kind of like mean to me to me. But then I ended up talking to him later. And then he came to visit me in person at the gym at the gym. Yeah. Like maybe a year to come pull up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because at one point he was kind of just like, yo, you don't know my life, you don't, your life's perfect, because he just sees what he sees. Just angry. Yeah, and I was messaging him back and I was like,

yo, my life's not what you think. You just see it because you see it now. And so I've had this conversation with him, and he, he was sent me every once in a while, like, you know, he had a daughter. And he was like legit going to, he told me he had a bunch of pills.

He was going to, he's going to do it. And he now is like, he just texts me this. Got a shit together now. Watch, I know it. Yeah. and it's it's crazy to see this because and aren't you glad you respond to this dude yeah i mean it's like the power of social media like this is like the real the real benefit like the thing that's so cool about it i'll show you uh he and this is awesome yeah i realized from six years ago he said hope you

well man thanks for saving my life today is memorial day and we honor those who died in the field he was a military guy was in the military awesome always he said there's always a bigger war being raised on the mental thanks for your kindness six years six years six years And he looks happy as hell in there. Well, this is, yeah, this is the picture we took six years ago. Six years ago. And so he'll text. Oh, wow.

Have you seen him in six years or no? Has he came by the gym again? I don't think I've seen him. But like he'll send me. Yeah, he'll write me stuff. He'll send me stuff like him and his daughter and stuff like this. And now he's a family. Yeah.

It's so crazy. So like, yeah. The thing about social media that's so great, there's obviously that double-edged sword to it where like, you know, you can have the haters or the nonsense of the bullshit. But you're also like, this is a real life person that he, I got that text more and I like fucking choked up because I'm like man

I didn't even realize it's been six years since this whole situation yeah and I've had tons of other kind of little messages here or there this is the one that like I actually kind of engaged

with the guy over time it's just weird man it is it is like what actually matters those are the things that actually matter and the cool thing about social media is that to have the platform and be able to do that is like it's just a blessing

yeah like what is all this worth like if I have more shit or more stuff because that's the other side of social media that's very just like, you know, promoting, make money. And yeah, you got to make money. You want to pay bills. You want to provide. You want to survive.

But man, like, it just, it also highlights maybe because of the messages I get, like how much people are actually struggling. Yeah, I think every, I mean, me and you struggle. I mean, I think I struggle more days and then I feel good. Like, there's like one or two days out of the week where I'm like, hell yeah, I feel good on this run today. And majority of the days I wake up and I'm like, I'm human like everyone else

I feel like shit I don't want to work out I don't want to grind I just want to sit here and kind of just be miserable but I get up and I would say 80% of the battles just getting out that fucking door when you're at that door and you start the hard work's been done you know and that's it and like it's just

it's very easy to just look at someone's Instagram page like damn this guy's living good and they got no fucking idea because all of us are putting up the fucking highlight reel every time you know you know i show my struggles on my runs when i'm racing the full thing or whatever like that but my post when i go up is me finishing and me doing this i put up i put up times where i i didn't

finish one race and you know what people resonated that with way more than when i finished yeah they were happy i shared that i didn't fucking finish and that i do struggle and that i do and i am human just like them so the majority of people regardless if it's running or not are not winning It's a very small percentage of people winning. So when you're putting up and showing your losses and showing how miserable you are, people fuck with that because they can resonate with it. Because the majority of people are waking up

and they're confused on what they want to do with their life, don't know what they want to do. Some of the most successful people we know that are making tons of money, they don't want to be doing what they're doing. So sharing the L's is, I think, even better than sharing the W's majority of the time. So how do you think you find?

And I mean, I think the answer to this is just wavering. I think it's just the just keeps changing. But how do you find what really makes you happy? I don't know, man. I just, I think I just get up every day and I create a routine. I just stick to that routine. Whether like I'm in a good mood or a bad mood and like if something comes up that really gets into my head, I just go stick to the routine. All right. Get your run in. Run 10 to 20 miles a day. Go to the gym. If you're miserable the day, you're probably going to wake up feeling better tomorrow if you wake up feeling like shit again tomorrow well there's gonna be a light maybe i wake up feeling like shit four days in a row but eventually i wake up feeling

good and then it's just a whole roller coaster up and down and you just got to accept that you know what it is i mean we all we all experience that anybody can relate to that so and you just got like most the the shitty part is is like i'm i'm good at that and i know a lot of people aren't that i was just like yo like i'm going to just break up my girl left me i'm losing my marriage i have to find a new job and I'm like just fucking keep pushing forward keep going you have to there's nothing else you can do what are you just sit around yeah like you just can't and like dude if I could come back from the shit that I went through like I went through fucking hell anybody can go back come back from whatever the fuck they're going through most cases I'll say that you know and like I went through

fucking mud went through fucking mud you know and like just can't give up on yourself got to keep What is it so what is it what does that take like what for you specifically were you like why do you think you didn't quit um I just don't have quit in my blood I knew I didn't do anything wrong so I'm like I'm not going out like this there's no fucking way because like you know majority I remember like other club owners had written me like the day I came back on social meeting they're like dude respect like we would have been in a fucking shell like we wouldn't have even pop back out and I'm like why would I not pop back out I didn't fucking do any of this you know like and I I was like, I'm not, I'm not going out like this.

So that day that I came back on the social media, no, bro, I had zero fucking idea. Like, 99% of the public was going to go back on my side. Because, you know, like, when you're going through something like that, you're just kind of, I was just kind of reading the negative. And then eventually you're just like, I don't want to read any of this anymore. And then I didn't see, like, I hadn't even open up my DMs. There was like, there's still till today, DMs I never got to there's thousands of them of people supporting me.

And then when I came back on and the DM started popping back up, I, I, start seeing all the old dates even until today like someone will write me that hasn't written me since December of 2020 when I came back on to Instagram when I had when I had kind of like took off for eight months and yeah I'm like damn this person was like mad supporting me I had no I just no ideas I didn't see any of this stuff a lot of dude it I don't know man I just I just I just don't fucking quit bro yeah it's just like how do you think how do you think someone who because there's a lot of people who they want to not quit but they can't find that they can't find the ability to not quit they just like a lot of people do stuff and they quit they do stuff

they do something else and they quit like how do you force how like I really want it man you got to just want it like you got to want it like if you don't want it bad enough you're going to quit you want it bad enough you're just going to keep going you're going to fail you're going to fail so then the question is how do you think you would you know you specifically but also people watching how do you find what you want bad enough because that's the weird thing like I say I keep talking about with social media is like you get all these versions and all different like life sort of styles or things that you could look at that you could do and you get pulled here pulled there yeah i think for me like i did you know in my past everything i thought like

like a child kid's hollywood dream would be and i realized there was no there was no winning in that it was just all this constant chase and then i think the second i had came back on the social media and you know i posted that i was going to release a book and that i was sober almost eight months or something like that and um and and the feedback from it was just fucking phenomenal was the better feedback never had being in the nightclub and then that was it for me right there I was like yeah I'm never going back I'm never drinking or doing drugs again and I'm just going to fucking run and I'm going to get this book out and I'm going to get the truth out of this fucking story and I'm going to get my life back and that was in I wasn't stop until it was done but what about

what about the people who don't get the positive feedback who don't see any good feedback who don't have a social media following who are like they got to do it for them you know I did that. I mean, like I said, I grinded for eight months. Somebody knew what I was doing. I didn't even know I was going to get positive feedback. Is it a driver for me now? Yeah, it's fucking amazing. Like I know when I'm changing people's lives and I'm getting messages like the ones you showed me and people are telling me that they fucking didn't take their lives because of my book or they got out of drinking because of my book or, you know, because of my running. They're now running marathons and they lost 100 pounds like, you know, that type of shit. I'm just like, fuck man. And I always repost. I'll always hide the person and I'll post a message.

in my story and put this is the type of shit that keeps me pushing you as are fucking rad you know because it helps on day like especially like on a day I get up and I'm like I don't want to run then I open up this DM they're like I'm running today because of you I'm like fuck I got to go fucking run now this motherfucker's waiting for my story to come up yeah you know and I'm not bullshit I'm not like posting up my fucking run and like I'm just gonna lay in bed you know I'm like I feel like a lot of motherfuckers use social media like that yeah you know I'm like no I got to go grind and like if I need a day off the run like if I'm like really fucking like today i didn't run today like you know i was beat up from this almost 20

mile fucking gnarly mountain we went on yesterday and and and it be me up so bad i woke up and i'm like i'm just gonna go hit the gym i'm gonna hit recovery like i'm gonna go do something i don't ever there's no i don't have a day off like i'm still hitting the gym i'm hitting weights i'm hitting string training there's days i do take off the run i didn't use take off the run at all but like you know my body's beat up a lot of the time i think that's i think the key is doing something something you got to move even if it's a little bit every day in yoga whatever it is whatever I tell people like to find something that you semi enjoy I do I don't enjoy like I don't like sounds crazy enough like I don't want to run every day if you think I love running because I run so

much but like it's it's what I find out of the run itself when I'm out there either get on like a high or I start thinking about work stuff while I'm out there and I'll be out there the first mile I'm like ah like if I set up a 10 mile day the whole time up until like five miles I'm like I'm just going to hit three mile out I'm back then I get to three I'm like I'll let me do another one and then I'm out there and I'm like oh I can do way more than 10 so it's like I'm about just getting moving, you know? And it's just like fighting with my mind the entire time I'm out there

because the majority of the time, if I take a day off running them, I wanna run the next day. Like now I'm gonna like fiend to run tomorrow and then, but once I start doing it every day, every day, every day, then you're just like, damn, I don't feel like going out there today. This shit sucks.

Sucks, all thing sucks. Yeah, so how do you find a balance in it then? Dude, I'm extreme as hell. You don't wanna ask me for balance. Yeah. I'm gonna look how hard I went nightlife. Look how hard, like you tell me, the normal person is gonna run a half marathon,

marathon and I'm looking for the net like you know last 300 mile race 200 for the mile I'm looking for the longest races you know but I feel like that's how you find success in in any sort of niche or or obsess anything you have to got the may the most obsessed win yeah I mean that's the truth man I feel like to get to anything at any high level you have to be fucking crazy about it you got to and then people are going to tell you all chill out you're going to hurt yourself and fuck off I mean I'm going to do what I want to do you know I mean granted it's my mom somebody like to you know okay I understand but But, like, you know, there's just like,

there's always going to be people in your ear telling me not to do this, not to do that. People were telling me not to run that last race. And, like, that was a huge comeback for me. The race I was running before, I was planning on podium on that race. And I was doing really well in it. Like, I got hurt around 150 miles. I put up a post being like, man, I only made 150 miles.

Like, only 150 miles. Like, that's like my dream is your failure, you know? And like, I'm not looking at that way. I'm looking like I failed. Yeah. You know? And, uh, but like I said, everyone was telling me not to run the next race. Let your, let your body heal.

literally i'm like i'm put some knee braces on i'm gonna i'm gonna go try i'd rather i'd rather be in the arena than then be on the outside spectating you know you ever do any mushrooms and run no i mean not i've been sober yeah if we were if we were if we were back in you know 29 i'd like fried out there and trying to see what's going to see what's happening you know because like the cold could it push you through it you know i probably have a heart attack out there like maybe not first few miles maybe the maybe like the last five the last you know in a weird way i think maybe maybe you were training for this like that All the benders I used to do.

Dude, the Coke, I'm telling you, it's like you were training your heart. I know, I was that, I mean, it's true, though. I always tell people there like, you know, all the benders you went on on all the sleepless nights. Like, you know what to do. You've already done it. Yeah. It's weird training. I'm going to have to run this time.

And I've got to be sober and not sleep. Well, I wasn't seen before because I was forced awake, you know? Yeah. So it's a little different, but. Yeah, so, so I will talk. I want to talk about some conspiracies because obviously you run a lot. crazy the earth's got to be flat right because 100% because you're running so much it's like you wouldn't you yeah you like kind of run and you'd kind of like run around it like where's the curve

at yeah sometimes i feel like i'm going to go off the edge you know you actually believe the earth's flat though i don't think it's round so it's a different shape it's just not round i don't know what it is exactly but i just know it's not a sphere you got guys like kairie irving and a bunch of these other cats around the same vibe that's why me and him were why do you think what makes you think that it's not um Um, just so much shit that I've watched. It just doesn't make sense, man. It just doesn't, it doesn't make sense to me.

And then people were like, what about this? What about gravity? Are you fucking dumb? Blah, blah, blah. And I'm, you guys believe what you want. You know? I saw, I just, I don't even argue with people anymore. You guys believe what you want.

Well, all these conspiracies lately have been coming out to be true. I know. You know what I'm saying? I hate it. But even if they came out and said that the earth was flat, nobody give a fuck. Like, now they're talking about UFOs. I don't care. Bro, there's so much stuff.

No, nobody cares. I don't care. People rather believe the lie. They love it. It's more entertaining. Yeah. Like, it's just the truth. Have you seen the stuff about like the lizard people now?

It's starting to. Oh yeah, she's been popping off. That those are like, I don't know about the lizard people. With lizard people have been lit. Apparently the lizard people are like, they're like saying they're the ones who are like controlling all this. They're the ones.

That's what like they'll like show videos are like people's like eyes like shifting and shit in videos and like. The reptilians. Yeah, the reptilians. Yeah. What do you think about the reptilians? I mean, bro. at this point I'm just like

I don't even I don't know anymore man there's too much stuff there's too much going on and there's too many like like you said there's too many conspiracies and too many things that at one point you're like nah that's fucking crazy and then they're like oh wait that was real yeah I've always I've always been a conspiracy guy

though like anything they told us all like yes it's bullshit like I'm like with anything you know me too yeah we don't want to get in 2020 so we'll just like it dude it would be a deep dive it was really for me after COVID I was like, nah, man, I'm really not trusting like what the government says. Correct.

That was the weirdest time for me, man. All the shit's coming out now, bro. They're exposing a lot of shit, but no one's going to talk about it. Yeah. It's just like, at some point, it's like, even if it is, like, okay. And what does it do for us now? Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't do anything.

I mean, I'm not sitting here posting about it. Yeah. I think there's this whole, the whole thing is like the real resistance to all this stuff is like the relationship of God, right, to it all, meaning like, if that's real, then that means, like, they, people think that if, if that's real, like the reptilian people, whatever, then God's not real. But I, I think they could all be existing in the same space. Yeah. It's all belief, right? Yeah. Are you, are you religious at all? I believe in some sort of higher power. Yeah. Because a lot of the flat earth people are way more religious. Yeah. No, my family's

very religious. I, I just like, I never really got too heavy. do it but I do believe in higher power and I don't knock on any of it like if you whatever religion you believe in like all power to you like you know like whatever like I just it's all a belief and I think if you believe in it that's great and I think you should stick with it and I think like I don't know that's just kind of how I see it yeah I guess when I talk about it's like man there's the randomness of you know how like the whole dog your dog situation I mean that was that's for me god's real yeah I remember that we're talking about that because yeah I mean that's a whole I won't talk about that too much on camera but

There was this, the idea of the Big Bang and, you know how that's like the science based. Like, yeah, this is how the Earth started. Was it the Big Bang? Trust the science, huh? Yeah, trust the science, bud. Oh, man. Trust the science. Oh, those motherfuckers have me in court.

Anyways. But that's too like, I always just go, okay, well, then what started the Big Bang, though? It's like, why? Yeah. And they'll be like, it just randomly happened. It's like it randomly happened and created like all this perfectness. There's no way. That's why that's like the thing that I'm just like,

there has to be something else that is driving this forward. Otherwise it's like, because I'm telling you, you go to that conversation and that's like the pinnacle of the conversation is like, well, the big bang started it, not God. And then you go,

okay, well then explain how the big banks are. And they're just like, it just happened. There's no explanation. That's it. That's why, but that's like for me is God.

And that's why we end this with the earth is flat. You know what I'm saying? Dude, it's got to be. It's got to. be flat it's gotta be because i i've i've got to the top of some buildings yeah about the earth yeah do you believe it's round or do you not are you not are you unsure oh man i'm unsure yeah i'm i kind don't you think like when we're flying like you know you just kind of then they'll be like gravity

you're in the atmosphere you're not outside of the atmosphere so like it's crazy yeah you know it's just kind of like i do i wish i wish there was a way to just like no i feel like don't they got to have AI now like some quantum computing shit where you can just ask and it just will tell you the truth. Yeah, but I feel like they're controlling some of that shit too. Right, you can write the code. Yeah, make sure it says it's... Make sure it's round.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're wrong. Eli's wrong. They're going to pull that shit up. Yeah. It's fuck, man. Are there any other conspiracies that you're into? I don't know.

Are they conspiracies? Are they just like truth bombs now? Yeah, I don't know, man. I think, like, just a lot of shit that they've been feeding us is just all bullshit anyway. It's like all this stuff's coming out. And it's just crazy. Like, we'll just say these certain groups of people don't like it.

Which the reptilians, they're like, they're finding out about us. Dude, I think it's reptilians, man. How crazy it would be if I just started like, you know? Your eyes started going like that. Close like this. He's on to us. He's got his motherfucker knows, dude. And then they just shadow.

We got to wipe, we got to wipe this guest from out here. They censor you. Then you're just gone. It's fucking weird, man. That's the one thing about the internet that's like, well, now it's gone so bizarre. Like, I remember back in the day, people just disappear and shit. Now everyone's just fucking saying whatever they want.

Yeah. you know now like you couldn't talk before you talk about anything and they'll fucking you're missing yeah because i feel like you could you could have done that back then because it's less cameras yeah now everything's just like everywhere like just anyone's saying everything now you know the one conspiracy i don't even know it's just a fucking truth that that really trusts me out that like i'm surprised more people aren't like i guess because you can't really stop it but like apparently they can like see everything like the government can see everything they can like see through like your fucking do the house and shit yeah because of like

Wi-Fi waves and shit like this you know I know I'm dug into that one yeah like I'm like the lasers of the fires oh yeah the blue the blue tops yeah yeah yeah they're saying they're saying they're they're saying they did it here too and the in the mountain honestly well look here's there was just skip like yeah we can talk about this forever you could mark this part here I've come back to this in like 15 years but I swear to you bro that whole area that got wiped out the Palisades is not coming back as homes. It's going to come back as, like, yeah, it's going to come back

as like, yeah. Developed shit. There was a plan. Which is, that's like, that's really sinister, man. Yeah. Because that's like a, it's just, it's, I mean, it's not even conspiracy. Like, the people are, people are like selling their land

because you're not even going to be able to build there because of the waste products, all these reasons, permitting all this stuff. They're going to make it real difficult. Yeah, so they're just getting rid of their stuff. They're getting rid of their land, the land for pretty much as cheap as they can still a lot of money because of the real estate's great there but they're all selling it to you know these big companies these big corporations and

what's going to end up there is definitely going to be more developed because like where else can you develop at least in l.A. that is like that sort of beautiful right on the coast nowhere nowhere nowhere i bet you i bet you in like 15 years you're going to start seeing like and then it's just like damn was this was this on purpose to just create space it's fucked yeah A lot of people's fucking... Yeah. What do you do? What do you do?

We haven't... We haven't been doing too many Malibu trips lately. Yeah. You got to wrap around the whole damn. It's all blocked off, yeah. I think they just opened it. I swear I maybe heard this, like recently that they just opened a... Like, they opened it now where you can drive through finally.

I drove over there, yeah. Can you drive through with PCH? Yeah, there's just a lot of like cops and like military, like, or... But you can still drive through all of PCH now. Did you go through it? Like, did you come down like sunset and like PCH? Like, were you able to go through that? Yeah, I came through like Brentwood and you're able to drive up through there now.

You were able to go kind of deep. Did you go towards like Nobu? Yeah, you're able to go through. Yeah. I think they just did this like a couple days ago, probably right before Memorial Day weekend. And I was, I was just looking at it's like, man, it's crazy. It's just like, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, you can just see the beach. Dusted.

Just the whole thing is gone. I'm just, like I said, 15 years, you're going to see high rises and whatever like fancy city they're creating. A lot of people left. I mean, we, I mean, I was going to, yeah, what are they going to do? People, I mean, you have money. You're there. You have no house where you can just sit around and wait. Like you're going to go get another rent-a-house somewhere else

or maybe go to Orange County and be by the beach. And, like... I mean, I think the super-rich people are probably going to keep their property and then get like, like, fucking $20 million to leave when they're like, yo, we need this space to make this fucking... Correct. Those ones are going to luck out in 15 years on that. Yeah.

But everyone else, yeah, they just got fucked. Like, no one's going to... You're not going to keep paying a mortgage or whatever you're paying to keep that land that you can't even develop on for fucking five years. Just going to turn into that... Like, it's this whole, like, city. like a new age city bullshit it just it just feels like AI is going to run all of Malibu it's like and then before the whole thing it was like all the reservoirs were not kept up

it's like all these excuses as to why it went so crazy even though you know that there's fires there like pretty often every year there's going to be the winds every year oh the reservoir water was gone they just had all the excuses and they're like oh we don't know and now it's like prime real estate it's fuck I see it I'm just like bro this is fuck in real time this is real it's pretty fucked yeah conspiracies man what do you think do you think we're going to get you to like run a race or what um maybe that's a conspiracy too no well all they're all coming true so you know you know you know i i i would love i would love i have to be able i've actually made this goal i need to be able to run 10 miles without stopping that's my first i could get you to do that

that's my first goal because bro we got we we ordered a new pair of shoes for him today so shit's getting i did i ordered some i order some new shoes i'll be honest man because i'll run my shins are I got, just so everyone knows my starting point, obviously I'm like 260, probably like 270 right now. My shin splints are terrible. I run for like four minutes and my fucking feet feel like they're falling.

So it's going to be a mission. It's going to be a fucking grind. But I think that I know that I can do it. And then I'm going to outpace you. Give me five years. I'm going to outpace you. Maybe you can come crew me at like a 200 mile race and give me 100 miles.

Yeah. I'll help you out. Yeah. I really want to do it though, genuinely because I just need a chat was talking to you about this like I just need a change in my life a change of pace yeah I've done the bodybuilding thing for so many years I mean shit that was fucking 15 I was like bradley like 195 full runner I don't know I feel like 220 220 can do I don't think I don't think I'd ever get under 200 we can keep you like at 2 15 you could still be a good

like you can be good at the like longer races yeah I just don't know if I'll ever get under 200 pounds no might be too hard way too hard for me yeah so what do you think I need what are the first steps like how do I I'm just going to to be honest I order those shoes I and what I said was I'm just going to wake up at least every other morning and just go run a lap around my fucking neighborhood. They run in the neighborhood or we do like the treadmill and we just set a certain pace that you want

and you sit on that treadmill without walking until you hit that pace. You're forced to do is that you can't like if you just keep running and not like you're not like on the street if you get tired you kind of slow down the treadmill is just going to keep going so you just like lock in your headphones on play whatever music you want to listen to and then like cool I'm saying but I'm talking like a slow pace bro. That's fine.

Well like 10 minutes. 11 for a mile yeah I don't even know at this point I think like a 10 minute miles pretty slow on a flat we could start like at 12 we can make it real slow at the start and just we'll just get you to do it 12 minutes like it all you got to do is lock in for 12 minutes choose three songs that are four minutes each that you like and don't look down until the songs are over that's what I would do yeah I think that's I literally put out like like a fucking playlist on that was like three hours long if I wanted to run the long time on the treadmill and I knew all the songs like by the time I kept running on every time. So I'm like, damn, I'm only on song number five. All right, I'm on number

10. Okay, so I'm halfway there. And then I get a song number 15. I like peek at the treadmill. And then I'm like, fuck. I knew exactly where I was. Why did I look down there? You know? Yeah. So you avoid looking at the time. Yeah. As you look at the time, you fuck yourself. So even in the race is like, so when we have like a, you can like put the whole map on your watch, like 256 miles. And I do it by aid stations. So there's eight stations in the races where like the first eight stations the first seven miles so i just clock in you download the whole you can download all the eight stations and then i'll just put in by eight station eight station so i'm just got to get to the next eight station i got to get the next eight station you never look at

the whole and this last race i did i did it the year before and i knew it i remember like we're like a hundred miles in i'm like fuck we still got to go through sidona we got to go through this part i'm thinking in my head like fuck we have so much of this race running 200 miles is like running from here to Vegas 300 some yeah you ever have you should just run to Vegas. Yeah, they have this thing called like the Speed Project and you can run it solo. It's like 300 miles or that you run with a team of like six. Has anyone ever, has anyone ever, sorry, interrupted. Has anyone ever ran 500 miles? I feel like this motherfucker is in Kenya and shit. No, no, there's people that have done like a whole like trail that's like 2,000 some miles over like

whatever time it was. And they have a good, they have like a fastest known time on it. But sanction races, if I'm correct, right now the longest one is 300 miles, which is the one that I attempted to do in April. So is the, can you Google the most miles? Anyone's ran? Anyone's ran? Is this got to be like, I feel like it's a motherfucker from ancient Greece or some shit

or someone in Kenya or something. It's going to be like 3,000. No, no, no. No, it ain't going to be like that. It's going to be like. Not competition. Oh, not competition. Yeah.

Just the most miles anyone's ever ran. Why is he saying 350? Why is that? The longest recorded. It's nonstop, nonstop. And he breaks is 350 miles. Nonstop. Oh, yeah, I know this guy.

He's a legend. He's got a few good books. Maybe he never stopped. I don't. They said nonstop, 350 miles. That guy's a, that guy's a reptilian. Without stopping. He's a reptilian.

He has to be. Yeah, he's alleged. There's no way you can't stop. That guy didn't, they did. I read his book. He like was ordering pizza on the run and the guys would like deliver it in their car. How did he pee? He's just peeing as he's running?

He must. Bro, that's insane. I don't know. I don't know what the, yeah, I don't know what the rule is. I don't know if he was like shitting while he ran too. But like I don't know what kind of, what were, where the rules were on this. Bro, I need to talk to this. Dean, can't, what's his name?

Carnes. Carnes. Yeah, he doesn't, he was like a legendary ultra runner. I read his book. His book was good. I don't remember the whole thing, but I read it. And. Yeah.

Nonstop during 50 miles. Like, yeah, he's definitely shitting while running. I got to look into that. How the fuck did he do that? Have you ever tried to shit when you ran? No, you want to, though. You know, you just try? No, why would I want to shit myself?

I go like, I just, I go under the force. I just like, like, you gotta beat fucking Dean. Dean? That sounds like that guy's shit while he was running, bro. I don't know. I read the book. I don't remember it being that, but maybe it's great. Hey, click on Show More. Oh, no, that's it. Someone, did, this guy had this shit while he ran. The world's record for the longest,

On top run the ready 109 mile Oh he's from Orange County That explains it That's We'll cut this dead space Oh this guy's wood stopped What's his?

Uh Five one The transcontinental race That was one was three thousand What bro like There's always There's just always someone doing Something crazier

That's just what it is It doesn't matter What you're doing It just doesn't I feel like there's like Indigenous people somewhere who are just they do this on the weekend

book called Born to Run and these cats are lit they just it's like normal yeah barefoot sandals like fuck we're so fucking weak now and you're struggling to hit a mile we're so weak dude what the fuck I mean I'm pretty

I'm like I'm in like a top I'm like for sure one of the toughest toughest guys in the world right now yeah because I'm up there it's so cool for me because like I'm good at something completely different

but having this conversation with you is like dude I am a I'm an infant I'm an infant You're strong dude though I just saw you in the gym But we got We're gonna get you to run

And next time we talk You're gonna be crushing Imagine I get to the place Where I'm just like Shitting while running That's how good I am Yeah And I don't have to stop

You could be that guy We can start now We can shit on your runs On the first 10 miles You know Eat a bunch of food I just I just want to know if it's possible

You've seen like the marriage There's people That shit themselves all time In marathons They don't want to lose time Like there was a girl recently So that is a thing Yeah for sure

They'll shit themselves Because but that's a marathon Like because like they might be like at mile 22 and they have like this crazy pace and they're like fuck this and they got someone on their ass yeah so whatever they're just they're gonna hit this crazy personal record or some beat the record for female or whatever it is and oh they're shitting themselves so you've never tried to shit well running no well no on the first hair half marathon i did i kind of shit myself and then i finally made it to take a porta potty it was like you know like turtlehead

just fucking pushing out just like try to scrape it you just think like fuck it i'm gonna rip it no i wanted to go to the bathroom i couldn't find a porta potty though and i was ripping this half marathon. I think I ran like a 629 or 625 per mile like the first one I ever did. You just got in power shit and kept running. I lost two minutes off that race. So like it, I was pissed about it. But I was thinking back, I should, yeah, I should have been shit myself. Come on, Dean. Yeah, I need that. There's, I don't know if there's maybe I'm, maybe he ran 350 miles straight when not, not fucking stopping at all. I don't know though. Dude, it says nonstop. Yeah, I know. I have to, and it's AI, so it has to be true, right?

Hey, who knows, man? That's another thing about the internet is like everything's so fake. Someone wants to read when they listen to this will either correct us on this. Yeah, for sure. I have to know. He did it. Or Dean might jump in here and be like, yo, guys, I shit myself. Now I purposely am going to have to shit and run and just shit to see how the mechanics would be.

I just want to know. Oh, you want like knowing you have to shit? And then go for a run and then just shit and then just I just want to see while you're running. I just want to see what happens. I'll report that. You feel like a release and you just smell like shit. Yeah. that's what I'm talking about when you need a new pair of shoes maybe after and shorts do you think

you just pull the back of your shorts out and just kind of like hit like a like a like a like a wobble run yeah maybe maybe maybe that's what he was doing a little wobble run he had to bro I'm so interested and then somebody came with like like a like a like a like a like a like a like a like a like a a super maybe underneath him oh like he had a spotter that came like a spotter that caught it and then just like wiped it with like it was a baby wipes yeah no I just want to try it now because I want to know what the mechanics are like. Like, I think that's what it went down. I think,

I think AI would agree. You think, yeah. Damn, bro. Dude, okay, I'm going to run. That's official. It's official now. I'm going to run and shit. Not just run.

No, I'm going to test. We put it out there, huh? I'm going to test this theory. This is all a joke. I came to your gym one day. We posted a photo and I was like, should we just say that like. No, it's not a joke.

No, but like it was a joke at that time. It was a joke. There wasn't even a thought in your head that you were going to do it. Now I'm going to do it. I'm going to take it to the next level because I'm better than you at running. I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you got a lot of bets going on. You got a soccer bet going. Well, dude, this kind of adds to the soccer bag. Yeah. Like, if I could run that much, I want, I want you to be better than me. That's how much how I like you. Yeah, I'm going to help you become better than me.

There we go. I'm going to come here and then I'm going to be interviewing you. It's going to be unfiltered raw talk. And I'm going to tell you how I shit on a 200-mile run. And then you beat you beat me because you shit while you ran instead of stopping like a pussy to go shit. in the fucking woods. And you already know, P and that's easy while you run out.

Yeah, there's a lot of wizards. Like, we call them the wizards. Like, you'll just be running on like the rocks. And you'll just start seeing like all these trips. And I'm like, oh, we had a wizard. This guy didn't want to lose no time. That's real. Yeah, it's all, every race.

Have you done that? No. I mean, dude, I guess if I was like leading the pack and someone was on my ass. You do it. Yeah, for sure. It's just like a complicated thing too. You just kind of like run and just kind of like, I mean, I do. I figured out how to put like lube on while I'm running.

Whoa. What the fuck? Because you got a loop sex while running. Yeah, you got to lube up. Wait, what? Because then you get shafing. So if you don't lube up while you're running, like you start bleeding everywhere.

Oh, this makes sense. Here in your ass and your armpits and your balls. Oh, no. You just admit it's a lube in your butt, bro. Yeah. That's crazy. I do. I take.

Oh, where are you going? I get a tub and I bring sandwich handback, like the plastic handbag to me, and I grab the lube and while I'm running, I just jam it all in there. You're dead serious. And I reverse it and I put in the trash back.

Yeah, every 20 miles. otherwise you have shafing everywhere and you're fucking you won't even finish the race holy shit you'll have like hamburger meat just like skin peeling inside your ass and bleeding everywhere if you don't lube it happens so lot of people are doing this yeah they have like a thing called like squirrels nut butter

and it's like literally just for like just for the lube that you use what the fuck yeah we didn't get to dive into like logistics of the shit there's like there's like so much that you gotta pay attention to while you're running otherwise your race is done what else calories I try to eat 300 calories per hour

hydration sodium i try to put like but you're eating like you're you got to be bars and stuff but then when you know yeah bars paste like you know shit that you have in your gym for beef jerky sticks whatever it is you just get calories down and then when you get to age stations like they'll be cooking like one of them had like cinnamon rolls and pancakes and all kinds of shit bro i ate so much fucking trash slas race that was jamming ruffles and pickles and like uh pancakes and uh cinnamon corn like toast and like just uh just all kinds of things that doesn't feel heavy when you're running?

You're starving, bro. Yeah. Like, I, I, sometimes I won't shit for, like, until, like, day three after eating all this food. This is the first race I kind of went to the bathroom normal. Oh, so your body straight up, like, just holding it all in. It's going through it. Yeah.

So, like, I was eating, like, I'd get in there and I'd eat, like, 10 pancakes at once. And then I would get, like, I'd go, like, I want, like, five cassidias. And I'd start jamming in my bag and I'd keep running. Like, I'd get there, flip my bag off, have my team refill everything. And then while they're doing that, I'm just jamming the pancakes. And I'm after, like, making me five cases and I'll throw in my bag and I'll start taking off. And then I have them on me. You're just, you're taking them out of the bag as you're running.

Yeah, you just jam them in. They put them like in foil. And I just start jamming wherever my bag. And then, like, while I'm running, I'll just start eating them. You get to a point, like, in the race, you're just hungry all the time. This, I think, like, when we got to, like, mile 2.25, I ate so much food that, like, the next seven miles I had to, like, pretty much as power hike it because I was so full. Like, they were like, yo, how'd you eat all that? And I'm like, nobody was eating coming through.

I'm like, I don't know, I was starving. Okay, so how much are you, are you like maintaining your weight through this race? I lost 15 pounds. So after like 200 miles. Yeah, 256 was the last race. And I lost 15. I weighed like 195. Like in those, just in those days.

Mm-hmm. Then those 89 hours. I didn't think I did. Like on the scale and I was like, holy shit. Now I was ripped right when we finished. And sometimes you're not. Sometimes you look heavier because, like, sometimes the elevation will make you look

inflameded. Yeah. And like sometimes my face will look heavier in this race. I was just like, I remember just grabbing my stomachs while like I was running and eating. I was like, I had nothing on me right now. This is crazy. So leading up to the races then, you're trying to like put size on? I think this is why I'm kind of having a little bit of knee issues right now. Because like in the last couple months I put like 15 pounds of muscle on. And it's helped me in the race because you carry about 15 pounds on your back,

at least close to 10 to 15 pounds with all the water and all the food and you got to keep refilling it. And I felt like there was like nothing on my back. in previous races last year when I was weighing like 180 and finishing like at 168 or 167 putting that backpack on was like hell every time on my back yeah and now like you know these races you don't need to be super super fast you just got to be efficient you got to get to that aid station and be in and out of there refill your waters get your food and keep moving you can't like those eight stations you get like dude there's like dudes they're cooking you food and like they got a fire on it's like two in the morning it's like 25 degrees out yeah come sit by the fire

and then they're all talking to you and you're just like fuck man I've been here for an hour I had the fuck out of here it's so easy it's so they're cooking marshmallows with graham crackers and like everyone's talking shit it's people like dying they're like sitting in the sea blisters all over their feet and then just yeah how do you deal with the feet because I always see these people's feet

did you see me pull my toenail off a couple come on yeah you try to show me that and it's just the fucking terrible yeah you just deal with it so you just have fucked up blisters everywhere bleeding fucking broken toenails like I thought it broke my toe last You just keep running. Yeah, I just try not to look at it

and I'm just like, fuck it. Yeah, that's... You're just running on pain the entire time. So, like, it's just another addition

to all the pain that you're dealing with. So, like, you'll feel it the second, like, you know, like, if I take, like, an hour nap

and I put my feet up, I'll feel like, refreshed. Like, I slept like, eight hours. But then I feel all the, like, I feel all the parts that,

like, I'm like, oh, fuck, I think I broke my toe, whatever my fuck it. I'll just keep running. I'm just keep running. come out there imagine you have a family i got you to leave your family you come to help me and i'm like yo man uh i'm not feeling good and you're like no fuck that and one of my boys one of my boys he's got

he's got three kids and a wife and he's a badass and i remember uh i did this race in october i get to like mile 55 and i was like throwing up everywhere the whole day and like i couldn't stop throwing up and i had like nothing in me i was depleted i finally got myself like mile 55 i'm fucking done i called him and he's like all right when the last time you threw up and i'm like six hours ago and He's like, okay, quit being a bitch and come to the next eight station. I fucking left my family. I left my wife and my fucking kids.

He said, you got 100,000 people that are watching. You're just going to quit like a fucking loser, huh? Yeah. I go, yeah, I am. So I hang up and he texts me again. He starts screenshots to my Instagram and shit and, like, sending me shit. And he's like, you're just going to quit. He's going to let these people know you quit.

He said, fuck you. I'll see you in 12 miles. I ran like so fucking fast and I had a good race after that. She's like, you need like that one person. You have to have somebody. You have to have, your team has to tell you, like, to never quit. no matter what you tell them you got to have a good squad with you you know some of these guys they don't they go with no crew my buddy and he like the guy you see me running with all the time

i showed you on tic talk yeah the guy he doesn't he does everything self-supported so he sets all the stuff up he needs in bags depending on where he knows he's going to be in the race it's all logistics now like okay when i get to mile 50 he gets there he sets everything he'll have all these drop bags set up where you can where the drop bags are allowed sometimes they don't allow drop bags and stations so there's drop bags that you say so say there's 28 stations he knows when he gets to mile 50 okay probably gonna be here around this time I need a pack my jackets my beanies my chargers for my phone

so he puts him there previously someone puts him yeah well you just drop them off in one place and they drop them all off at the eight stations you just label them oh okay yeah so then that's it that's like his crew basically is his drop bags and then sometimes like last year a pussy compared to him I guess a lot of us are then damn so wait so is he the only one that does that

or there's other people who do that he's one of the few especially like in these 200 mile races people have crews he likes doing it because he knows it's like it makes it that much tougher and he's not trying to win the race and he's the one getting the most engagement on Instagram and shit because this shit's just real Instagram and TikTok people love it

that's fucking cool though you know you got people talking shit saying he runs it too slow and then you got people like it's just fucking kids that don't understand yeah of course they don't understand you you should try that once I could do it I don't I don't think I need it I think like if I want to do good in the race though like it depends we were going to do this last race together

like if I didn't get hurt at the one before it where we were just going to do drop bags and we were going to run it all together and document it and then I was just like I knew I didn't want to be out there as like I knew he'd be out there longer he's always going to be out there longer I'm going to be still a lot of people but I knew like you know I'm younger, I'm faster

and I already knew like if I committed to that that means I'm going to be out there for a whole other day he's just tougher he's tough I'll give it to him I call my I call on my trail running husband Andy if you're listening you're a tough motherfucker according to Bradley you're tougher than me

so that's tough he's a fire he's a fire a fire chief as well too damn yeah he's a tough he's a tough yeah he's a tough guy fuck I can't even three kids wife fire chief and still run

100 mile weeks for the last five years hasn't missed haven't missed a week I gotta fucking meet this guy yeah that guy's probably so cool that guy's probably so cool yeah he's rad bro like people like that is like I just like people who do hard things

I like people who do things that are difficult like it's just like that's why I try to do hard things every day I get up I feel like that That's the most, that's like the best thing you can do in life. It's rewarding, man. It's fucking amazing.

So now it's your turn to do our thing. This is, this is it. It's on camera now. And this is a calling too, man, because this is, I've been thinking about this for a while. I'm like,

I'm such a bitch. The fact that I can barely run like a couple miles, if I could prove that I could do it and maintain some size. I got to maintain some size. That AC went on. It feels good. Yeah. He's getting hot.

Start to sweat a little bit. I mean, you were just getting heated up in here. Yeah. It's because you're talking about your, fucking trail husband. That was crazy. Trail husband. I was getting excited. Cocaine aftermath. Cocaine.

One hit of that. I was fucking sweating balls everywhere. Shitting and running. Yeah. Hissing and running. Oh my God. I don't know. I can't even say I'll sound like a bitch. No, I can't say that. That you do? No, I was going to say if I don't know if I could ever do that like ultramar.

You could do anything you put your time in too. Yeah, I don't want to say that. I think it's going to be dope. You're going to be these big ass motherfucker with like this backpack that looks big on my back is just going to look like a miniature kid size of the lunch pail on your back and you're just going to be cruising i'm going to run after this right after we're done yeah dead serious i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna fucking i'm gonna run around this damn neighborhood i'm not kidding i like it i'm dead serious i think like the podcast should

continue with like filming you going through on the fuck no yeah you might want to get out of here no no no no no i'm doing it though i'm doing it i swear i'll call one of your 100% we'll call one of your latino homies huh yeah i'll call one of your latina homies from the gym to come film this no i'm doing it right after this motherfuckers won't get here in time they're taking a little siesta it's midday yeah this is like single to mile part two oh it's so fun you have so many so many Latino friends bro oh they're the bad you do man Latino community loves you i love them i swear when i posted you and i haven't posted you in a long time i swear they're like i love that man he's for the Latino community man hell yeah hell yeah

and i was like yo i was like what is he talking about here and then i come into your gym and it's like all Latinos everywhere i'm like yeah okay i understand he's I fuck with him. I fuck with him. They fuck with me. We fuck with everybody, bro. Yeah. So I'm going to do it.

I'm dead serious. I'm going to go run and I'll report back. And then maybe someday you could be my trail husband. Wow. You got to fight that out with Andy, man. He's got a problem. I'm already arguing with his wife majority of the time. So it's like, you know, I'm more moody than his wife.

He's got to deal with me, man. It's crazy. Is he ever out in L.A.? He comes out here all the time to run with me. Oh, man. I got to meet him. Yeah. I got to meet him.

I got to be able to do five miles before I meet him, though. I feel like he'll rose. We can do a day, once you get training, like we'll do like a slow 10 mile day in the trails where like we hike and we just like jog the flights. I do. I'm be honest, I just feel bad. Like I'm down.

I'm totally down to go do it. I just feel like. We won't leave you. But you guys will be like you, you can't run slow enough to stay with me. Yeah, but he runs pretty like slow and consistent. That's why he does good in these like 200 mile races. So like it's just, he doesn't care. He just cares to get the miles.

He's not really caring about the time. So that's where your head needs to be at when we go run and you'll be fine. But by then, like, you'll be good. All right. It's official. Changing my whole life, bro. Yeah. I like,

I just want to stay a little jack, though. You see what I'm saying? Like, look, I told you how many lives I changed and just sitting down with you right now. I'm running and changing it like this is where, this is why I know I'm on the right path. Yeah. Oh, it's real. And because I've, dude, I've been thinking about this for like three, four years. Like running?

Yeah. Just like. Wanting to change shit up. Yeah. Changing it up. But also in this, in this regard, like something that's really fucking difficult. They're like, I am so bad. It's going to be hard.

It's going to suck. Running. Every day that I run, it fucking sucks, man. And people think it gets easier because I do it every day. It sucks every fucking morning. And the first few miles... That's why I need to do it. The first few miles always suck the most.

And that's why I do it. Like, I remember when we were on this race and we got ahead with the storm. And I was like, there wasn't a piece of me that was like, y'all, I'm finishing this race. I'm fucking done. Like, I'm so pissed that, like, we couldn't run for a whole day pretty much. The mud was so crazy. They pretty much lost, like, an entire day of running. like we had to like slip and slide through mud and like there was like 15 pound weights on your

fucking shoes the mud was coming all the way yeah yeah it was that bad and like i remember just being like this like this whole run sucks and this is just another level of suck that i don't want to do and then when i got when i when i got through it i took a nap and i got back out there i was like fuck man it's like uh what uh cam had posted the other day i know you guys been talking on dm yeah he said uh fraud check complete i guess it looks like i am as tough as I said I was. Is it, is it just something like, are you repeating something to yourself? Are you like, no, not even, dude, like the whole time.

I'm like, you have to get to this next checkpoint if you want to quit anyway, right? Like, if you want to quit, like, in that middle of storm, I don't even think a helicopter would have been able to come get me at that point. So it was either I'm going to die on this mountain or I get to get to the bottom. Oh, that's sick. Yeah, so either way. And I remember I was with my, with my buddy Christian, and he was pacing me. And he was only 30 years old, but he's been, he's a tough dude.

And I remember just looking at him. I'm like I'm fuck I'm done like I'm like I'm not even talking to English I'm shivering and he's like trying to zip pants on me and put this jack on my second do anything we're drenched and he's like yeah it's gonna cause one keep fucking walking just fucking keep walking and he's kids like we have to get the bottom we still had like 12 miles to go and it's just like straight puddles of fucking just mud down a huge mountain like you just you're just you're just drenched and you're freezing and I remember being like yo I'm done we get to the bottom I'm fucking done like I'm fucking done he's like no just when we get there

it'll be fine and I'm like I'm fucking done I eat food and I just got in the trailer and the RV and I was like finally like I just committed I was like oh I'm gonna sleep for an hour and a half they woke me up and I was on and I heard the rain I was like fucking scared of the rain at this point I was like if fucking raining I'm not going out there rain stopped after another hour and a half asleep and I was like all it's fucking hammered again and that was it all it took for me is take the nap and then just commit to at least going out and those guys are on your ass to you that's why you have to have good crew like they're like bro like just go try at least go out there and get a few miles you don't do it and quit after

Because they know once I get going, I'm just going to keep going. It's tough, man. That's fucking, it's tough. You just have to get going. That's the key. You have to get going. Yeah. And, you know, like, the more you sit around, the longer you're going to be out there.

So I'm like, the more I take a break, I'm like, fuck, the longer I have to be out here. Then when you know someone's already finished, I'm like, Dan, that motherfucker's eating a burrito right now. And he's got his legs kicked up. He's got an in and out burger in his fucking hand. And I'm like, fuck that motherfucker. I want to be that guy right now, you know? Yeah. and I remember the guy that got first place

someone was like updating me like my guy because they're all in the phones he's like bro this guy got in the chair and he started laughing with a breed on just fell asleep like he fell asleep like this with the breed on his hand didn't even eat it he just fell straight asleep while they recording him

you know bro I finished 58 hours after the nine hours the guy's just probably so tired holy shit you know and then there's people that like finish like on like the last minute and it's called like DFL dead fucking last

and they like make like a whole like all the staff and everyone's there there's like hundreds of people like making a huddle when they come in and like it's like it's actually almost as exciting as seeing the first person finished. That would be me? Yeah. And then like they'll get to the end and I remember they interviewed this girl at the at the 300 mile that we did. I was watching everything and she's like

I paid for all these fucking seven days and I'm getting every penny's worth and she like walked into the last minute dude you know and it was just dope and dude there's like people in their 70s finishing these races. Oh bro I'm a pussy you know? Nah. I got to do it, dude. I think there was a dude that was 72 that finished at 300-mile. Holy shit.

You know? It's crazy because everyone just got fucking excuses. That's what it is. Yeah. Everyone's got excuses. Like I said, I mean, Cam was talking on Rogan, and they launched the podcast while we were out there. And my friend was listening to it.

He's like, yo, Cam's running on a broken foot. And Rogan's calling him a fucking dumb ass right now, start of the race. And I'm like, damn, I guess my knee's being fucked up or isn't as bad as a broken foot you know so it's like you just you just got to wrap it up or something like this i don't know what the fuck he did you guys just he looked great when i saw him we were smiling hugging each other talking shit like you know he probably just ran on it yeah he didn't care i remember we see him and i remember the first time i i uh i caught up to him it was like like like mile 10 something like man aren't we so fucking lucky to be out here motherfuckers at a nine to five right now we're

fucking out here in the middle of mountains running right now and like you know we're fucking blessed it's a crazy way to make money it's a it's a fucking incredible way you know it's not just the running it's all marketing it's your self brand it's all that stuff you know because there's i was talking about this with that girl sally mccray i told you she's a dope runner i was on her podcast uh like a month and a half ago maybe a month ago i can't remember somewhere somewhere somewhere around there and we're just talking about how like there's there's people getting first place all the time and don't have like a thousand followers on instagram so they can't make money from it. The brands want to work with people that are marketable. They want a back in

story. They want something. You know. So you got to market yourself. You have to. It's just the way that it goes. Yeah. That's it. I would never need to win a race and I could figure it out still. You know, like I would never, but do I want to. Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. You know. But that's just because you know how to, you know how to leverage relationships. Yeah. A lot of people don't know how to do that. Yeah. And that came from my past what we talked about. Yeah. It's fucking making sense. So what? We're going to hit the nightclub now or what? fuck no now that now that you know the earth's flat we can get there faster so we don't have to go like around a loop you know we can run there easily we don't have to go around anything it's just

straight through easy bro it's crazy how they make all these like they you know when they show the planes or like over like this it's really just going straight and you know it's got to show you the maps on day flat earther all right we're getting the fuck out of here uh that was great dude proud of you man yeah yeah it's cool glad you turn your life around you fucking i appreciate you bro you did a great job for real yeah i'm proud of you genuinely i mean that you're good dude you're good dude as well and uh yeah dude uh tell him wherever they can find you social media i guess you on just instagram no i need to start the youtube ticth maybe bradley will get me to do that so i'm gonna start running i'm good at that yeah that maybe he'll help me with i know i know the ticot

would do good like i'm that guy i'm dean k k k k kazer has of tic talk and youtube i'm that guy yeah i shit well tic so we'll get bradley to run marathons and he's gonna get me on other social platforms. So right now, it's Instagram, Eli Webe. Yeah. My book's called Mask if you want to check that out. And that'll do it. That's it. See us in zoo culture soon again. Yeah, see you guys. Every Tuesday, I love you guys. See you next time. Peace.