RAWTALK - How Elijah Scott Escaped the Streets, Went Viral & Is Shaping the Future of Country Music

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

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All right, man, thank you for taking the time out. I appreciate it. Thank you. So what part of Cali are you actually from? I'm from SoCal, like, the Inland Empire. Oh, I used to live in Fullerton. It's not really out there, though. It's like more towards Palm Springs.

It's worse. It's worse. There's nothing out there, just me. Has a lot of music come out of that area? I feel like, is that where the ball brothers are from? Like, no, yeah, well, yeah, they're from, uh, they're from the IE. I'm from banning and I'm from banning, California. No, no, wait.

Yeah. So you're from, like, nowhere. Yeah. No, I don't even, not of you that disrespectfully. You're obviously from somewhere. Nah, it is nowhere, though. But like, yeah, bro. There's like nothing out there, bro.

Like the, damn, it's like, you grew up with like some wild dogs and shit. yeah that's crazy no real dude look at it on maps there's nothing out there what's the population of that town it's getting bigger shit

they got an airport nah that's that shit is like it's just like everybody goes out there and does like donuts and shit yeah so growing up is music is something you always wanted to do

I wouldn't yeah I mean here kind of in a way kind of sound like the answer was something else I didn't think that I could you know what I'm saying like I didn't think it was like like that I could you didn't think you could do music

just because of what your circle like people you're around or like your just ability I guess I just didn't like I don't know I didn't I didn't think that it was like but there's so many people that do music you know and so like when you look at it from that perspective bro it's like, bro, nobody's going to listen to, like, my shit.

Yeah. I get it. That's like anything now, though. Yeah. Everyone, I mean, yeah, the internet just feels that way about any sort of niche. Everyone does everything. But for me, growing up, I played basketball. That's it.

So you thought are going to the league, huh? Huh? You thought you were going to the league. Hell, no. I was too bad, bro. Like, I got kicked out. I got expelled from two high schools that I went to. so your first thing was like you wanted to play basketball

and then second thing was like maybe I'll be a criminal yeah I think it was always just like for me when I was young bro it was like always about like me trying to like prove myself like yeah like oh you're not gonna like nobody's gonna punk me type shit I get it I remember those days do you think that comes from something else in your life

or that was just where you grew up I think it comes from It comes from when I was little, like, in school and shit, I just was, like, not, like, popular, I guess you could say. Yeah. For me, it was more so, like, that I just didn't want people to, like, fuck with me. I get it in a sense. You get bullied or some shit? Yeah.

I didn't want to say it. Nah, that's real shit. Who gives a fuck? I don't want to say it. No, that's real. That's just, yeah, it's... I can't even imagine nowadays, like... That's, like, sixth grade.

Yeah. So I'm so bad at time and stuff, but I wonder how old are you, excuse me, when you're in sixth grade, how old are you? Could someone answer that here in the room? I think like 12. Yeah, so 12 year olds definitely have social media, right? Yeah, now. Dude, imagine how crazy life is now.

And you're, like, do you think there's like that hierarchy of like, oh, he got a thousand followers or he got 200? Sure, yeah. But that's everybody now. Everybody's like a social media follower competition. Like, you know, for me. And then that's like crazy because for me when I started. doing music it was just like because I was like what the I ain't got shit to lose like if I was

driving forklift I was so so how so how did you go from it's every there's I'm not going to succeed at it to I don't have anything to lose why not do it it's because like I was doing um I was doing karaoke bro like at a bar I swear I was doing karaoke at a bar like I used to go with my homie like we'll just be drunk as fuck just at the bar and like everybody at the bar was like yo you kind of sing a little bit like you know and I was like okay like you feel me so like I knew I knew my homie he had like a studio so I was like I'm gonna just try like to sing a song and the only music that I like is like country music yeah or oldies so that was like the first thing I tried and then I posted it and it did like kind of good so from there I was like so you you found

out or like you got pushed into music because you were like at a karaoke you're drunk doing in karaoke. That's crazy. That's like how I started singing anyways. I was like a year ago. Fuck. It was the first time I ever sang was like a year ago. So you've never practiced,

you never like tried anything prior? Nothing in music. I did rap music. How'd that go? I just, the way you said it. It was good. I mean,

I thought, you think I was good, bro. They don't, they ain't buying that shit, bro. He's a hater, bro.

That's his own with him. Because you rappers used to DM me And I didn't see it until he started seeing What's he saying? I was at, oh, shit, he's been hitting me since 2021. Yeah, he's saying rapping wasn't for you, bro. Yeah, he's a hater. I don't know.

Sounds like this other way works for you. Yeah, I does. Do you, it's like, no. They're still bullying you, bro. No, it's all good. It's all good. It's a unique sound.

It's a cool sound. Yeah. So is it inspired by certain or certain other voices? or I don't know, really, I don't know. Because, like, I don't really sound like any of the artists that I listen to that are country artists, but... Yeah. Who are your favorite country artists? Probably, like, Chris Stapleton, Morgan Walling.

Morgan Wallin. My favorite. Definitely Morgan Wallin, for sure, like, top. And then, like, Carrie Underwood is someone I grew listening to or, like, Keith Whitley, George Strait. I listen to all country music, Darius Rucker. I listen to a lot. Did you listen to it prior to ever trying to sing it? I listened to country my whole life.

So it's not like some shit you're like, oh, let me try to do this. Because I noticed recently, I'd say in the last like three years, a lot of people have gone towards. Towards country. Yeah. I was listening to country. Like, bro, when I was in high school, like, it would be like, man. Like, I have it in my earbuds.

They'll be like, what you listening to? Like, oh, nothing. Like, you feel me? Like, it was like, it was like, like people would laugh at you for listening to it when I was listening to it. Yeah, but I've been listening to it for, my first, my first concert was a country concert. That you went to? Yeah, Toby Keith.

Yeah, I love country music. Yeah. I love it. So, do you write all your own stuff? Does that come from, like, trying to do the rap thing? You're like, where do you get it from? I don't know. It just comes.

People don't help you? No. Not yet. Not yet. No. I know that I would I would like work with writers and stuff because I mean I don't know everything about writing

but as far as I am right now I know I've wrote everything Yeah So from from what I understand about you just A friend of mine was talking You know obviously I haven't spoken to you directly But you're you're on social media You're kind of getting a little A little

I guess like energy behind you And label starts to hit you up Yeah And originally they offered you a certain amount of money to, like, sign, right? Yeah. How much was that? It was like, like, it was like 10,000 or 7,000. Yeah.

And they've come back to you since and they've offered you more. Well, I'm, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm currently signed to a label, so. You are now? Yeah. Yeah. But wasn't it a drastic change for you? Because I, from what I understand, originally, you, you,

didn't want to do the deal because you felt like it wasn't enough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How'd you know that? No. I just like, you know, ask people questions and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So what I found interesting when I heard this was like, you understood the power of the social media, obviously, than that whole game. Yeah. I mean, I didn't have a full understanding, but for me, I didn't have a full understanding, but for me, I've seen, like, I've seen people that had less social media. media presence than me get like a better deal so like I was like just some conversation from telling you that yeah because a lot of people lie about shit no yeah but just from people that I know that they get artist record deals and stuff like that that's kind of how I find out dude's like he's my manager now but he was explaining yeah so how'd you know to hold off um honestly on the first time around

when I was holding on the first time around I didn't I didn't hold off so you took that 10,000 yeah but it was like a development deal it wasn't really like a record deal it was like development what's the difference development how do you like

yeah it's like it's not a record deal it's a deal to help you get placements to just just just to distribute music yeah yeah oh they're like what make fucking so they say pay they they they pay you some money up front to go make the music yeah and to help you put it places they put it out they put it out yeah so basically it's like a distribution yeah which is kind of still what i mean yeah

i'm still kind of in new what's the new deal um i'm totally pocket watching right right now the new deal is it's still a distribution deal i mean it's not not like super great but you know we're getting somewhere you're getting someone we're working on this yeah all right boys quick and rush for the podcast listen if you ever had a soft time in a bedroom but you know it wasn't supposed to be that way it's supposed to be a hard time for better words or for lack thereof go to rugiant dot com right now they're going to give you 50% off your order listen it's normal everyone has those days. We've all had those days, but Ruggian got your back so that you don't have those days anymore. If you guys are having a time and you're like, man, listen, I want to be on my best sort of

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what but you mentioned earlier wasn't really like on your radar to be an artist no i didn't even think it was gonna like do all this shit like for real when i was just posting this shit i was just like bro it was it's just like and then it's just like it was on tictox so i was just like okay like fuck it you you just thought you were just fucking around on yeah i was just fucking i was just fucking i was just fucking around on ticot like that's what i was doing and then um i had a video that did like a million views my first like my first video that ever kind of went viral and from there like it like never like slowed down yeah i got just hit like 800 000 followers on on tictov is that your main platform yeah yeah do you do you find like do people are people like

like that have been around you do they switch up if you'll switch up once you start getting more followers i always find that interesting oh yeah there's a lot of people bro they're like i'm like yo Like, they're like, the main thing I hear a lot, bro, is like a lot of people that would be like, I'm proud of you. Like, what the fuck? Like, for what? Like, you know, you feel like me? Like, you never talk to me, like, really before.

Like, I know you, like, in passing, but, like, I don't really know you. Like, why are you proud of me? Like, I'm trying to get that in. Yeah, you know, like, I get that a lot. There's a lot of that, for sure. Yeah. A lot of, I'm proud of people. Yeah.

That I don't know. Do you think, does it give you resentment? You're like, fuck these people? or yeah I mean it makes you feel like that bro but they're not the same time I mean I'm not like

I'm not like a super like asshole bro so I'm just like you know I appreciate it like you know I don't really ever tell people like what how like what I just thought do you know I mean it kind of is just like it's almost just makes you realize reality more

is just like everyone's kind of out for themselves no matter what yeah yeah which is not necessarily a bad thing it's just like everyone's trying to figure it out yeah Well, yeah, and I just noticed a lot of, I mean, there's a lot of things you notice, bro. I mean, I'm sure you know, too. Like, you know, once you get, like, more following and there's just, like, more people

that just want to just be around you just because you're now somebody that people know. Like, you know? Yeah. I noticed that a lot. Yeah, it feels weird sometimes. That is weird. But it's cool. I guess it's part of it.

Or, like, you know what else I get a lot? It's like, they'll be like, okay, because, like, a lot of my fan base is, like, a lot of, like, older people. they're older and a lot of my fan base is like like super like they'll be like cholo as dudes or like some shit like you know and they always come up to me they always come up to me and they're like bro I'm they're like bro I'm not even trying to like fan out or like be a fan girl or nothing bro I just want to let you know your shit hard like you feel I'll be like okay like for sure like why'd you got to say that for like you know and then they'll be like yeah no I'm not I'm not like a groupie or nothing but like could I get a picture though

yeah what the fuck like what do you mean bro like just just say your shit hard no i get it i don't get it bro like well i think the older generation is like less like social i mean they're they get the social media game because they're seeing you yeah but you know it like feels like i i think it feels like a younger kid thing to ask for a photo yeah they i guess so i mean she if i see morgan wall then i'm asking him for a picture 100% what the fuck i mean i need a picture but i would get that all the time in the in the fitness space it would always be like yo my girl's a big fan can i get a photo

yeah she's like not there yeah that happened to me too bro they'd be like bro my wife loves your shit and they'll be like let me get a picture bro like what like hold on like no i just say you like they're like you know it's music what is a picture with me but it's probably the approach they're probably like they don't you know yeah they don't want to sound lame yeah for them I guess so like you know but for me it's like I mean if you like somebody's music bro then you like it there's like yeah nothing you could do about it I mean it doesn't make you any less of a man, bro, to like my music. Yeah.

I don't get it. I don't understand it. Yeah, it's just, it's just ego shit. Just, because like I said, I think the older, the more mature person is going to be like, how do I do this without feeling awkward? Yeah. Well, yeah, like, and then the older, the older generation is like, they have that, like, like that, like, like, manly, like, like, I'm a man.

Like, you know, like, it's weird, but I don't know. I don't know. I don't get it because I'm not like that. I get it and the younger kids are just more pussy, right? Hey, shit. Low key.

I think everybody does to be honest. Yeah. You don't think so? Is pussy? Yeah. Yeah. Especially nowadays, right?

Yeah. I mean, I think the internet's made people like more... Orny. Orny? No. Well, yeah. Everybody is like...

Well, it's because you fucking open your phone. You can't avoid the shit. So it's everywhere. OF girls everywhere. Everywhere. You got a chick? no no do you know dating in this industry is not easy hard uh yeah uh i know a lot about it but i just probably shouldn't every bro honestly like the more that i get into the industry and

find out about it like everybody's kind of like fucking everybody in the in the actual industry yeah like the models the artists yeah just everybody's fucking everybody I feel like that's been a thing forever. It probably has, but I'm just finding out. I think that's where all the rap beef has ever come from is all the dudes fucking the same chicks and being mad about it. Yeah, that's just, I could never do that, bro. Like, I couldn't, I couldn't be like, oh, like, oh, bro, I was fucking there, bro.

Like, I don't know. I don't know. It's weird. But it's got to be an ego thing at that point because at that point for those guys, it's like, what can they not have? So then if it's like their other friends, it's just an ego-related bullshit. Yeah, but like, if you can have any one of them, why are you going to fight another dude over one of them? That's gay.

Yeah, I agree. It's just because it's weird. It's just because it's just the power thing. It's just that's what it is. They're like all want to like have like an army of them and just be like they got the arm. They want the leg up on everyone. Yeah, yeah. But it's weird shit, but it is what it is.

But so in industry music-wise, is there anyone that you want to really? really collab with or is like, are you just going like straight country or do you want to do more like blend? I want to do country, but I want to do it like my way, you know? How would you describe that? I don't know. I feel like that I feel like that a lot of the stuff that I write though is like different than what people would consider exactly just country. It's like I see a lot of people be like, oh, Morgan Wallen's not country and he's the number one country artist in the world done but why do you think people say that because it's weird because it has like some songs because it's not like Randy Travis or you know Keith Whitley doesn't make it not

country or him less country because because so they're relating it to like the older country stuff that's like straight yeah like George straight like you know like yeah but for me I just I want to do it but I listen to oldies a lot too bro like like old school music like Mary, Mary Wells and, like, just like old music, Brent Wood. Like, so, like, those two, like, country and oldies, like, I feel like in my music, I try to, like, find a way to combine them. But also, like, I listen to a lot of music, bro. Like, I listen to almost everything, like, rock, all kinds of shit.

Like, Lincoln Park. Like, I listen to everything. Yeah. I just like good music. So. Yeah. I feel like music nowadays, and I think maybe why country got so popular. because I think because rap is, like, kind of dying.

Like, it really feels like it's dying. I've been saying that for a minute now. It's because everybody keeps saying the same thing over and over again. You know, it's just repetitive, you know, but. And then at one point, too, I mean, I mean, shit, Bad Bunny's about to do the fucking Super Bowl. Yeah. That, that music, that genre also blew up.

Because of the rap kind of going like this. Yeah. Well, I think that everybody started listening. I feel like country music had always been. good bro but nobody wanted to listen to it because they just had this this like guard up about it like oh that's that's weird or like i i i can't listen to that like that's weird like that's weird i listen to rap music or like it's exactly right i remember being a kid in thinking like because i only kind of like grew up listening to rap music yeah and then as i got older i started listening to like

other random shit like edm shit yeah country and like originally you tell people like what the fuck you listen like country was like opposite kind of like where i came from because i grew up in a city yeah um and it had that stigma like oh it's weird and then i listen to i'm like wait this i love this shit this fire like you just got to hear what they're talking about though like in in a sense bro in a sense in country music bro they're talking about the same shit that they're talking about like in rap and all the other genres they're just not i mean not not not like about like shooting people are pulling up but like about girls and getting money and having things like they they talk about all that shit in country music that just i i mean i call it white people soul music because

that's what it is like yeah that's what i call it like you know like soul music that's like that's like who invented country music is there is there like an original guy can we google that i don't know they say invented they said um i know who said that i think i know but i don't this is one of those questions i feel like black people always say yeah the carter family there we go is that a black person no no okay that's why i do for sure the carter family little way yeah i was like me wait wait what the fuck no jz too yeah yeah i guess them so wait african-american blues oh so it's a blend of uh anglo-seltic folk african-american blues other so it's like a blend of stuff white people sold music white people soul music yeah i like how

you described that we gotta call it that yeah we have to say that bro that's what it has to be so so you have a unique sort of look for country music yeah because you look kind of like a rapper well i'm from the hood you're yeah you're from the fucking no no like like bro where i live is ghetto like it's not it's not okay but my mom is white though like and like like My, I grew, my dad, I grew up with my dad, too, a lot. Yeah. But, like, a lot, I was with my mom and, like, my grandma and my grandpa. My grandpa was a cowboy.

So, like, he was, like, I mean, like, I was doing stuff, like, with him all the time. Like, you know. Like, the first, I think the first country, yeah, the first country music that I ever heard was from him because he had, like, Toby Keith or Chris Ledoo CDs, like, in his truck. And I'll be like, yo, this is hard. like you know why did you start trying to rap first um and not country well i didn't think i could sing how'd you learn okay the karaoke's how you learn you can sing you never tried to sing prior to that no you just tried to rap you're like this shit's cool this shit easy like you know like i can just say

a bunch of shit yeah you know but um i didn't think i could sing and then when i thought when people would tell me like i was like all right maybe i could sing a little bit but like there's no way like I could be like on a stage somewhere selling out the show like you know and uh here I am yeah you get nervous I did my first show oh man that one was bad remember how bad I didn't even want to go out to the stage I did you did you you completed it though I completed it yeah I had to but I didn't want to yeah I was like shit and like I was it was bad but now it's fun yeah Because, like, it took a minute, bro, and then I realized, like, damn,

everybody's here just, like, to see me. So why am I'm scared of them? What was the fear? Just because you just, you're afraid to look shitty, I'm assuming. You're afraid to look bad. Or just afraid to just fuck up. It's like, it's like a first day at school. Yeah.

Yeah. Got your fit laid out on the bed. You're like, damn. You don't even want to put it on, though? Do you fucking kids still do that? Do they still lay the clothes out? I don't know, bro. But I know I did.

I used to have my outfit, like, just ready. like three like like a week before school was even going to start everything everything shoes sitting there all folded my mom will come in like bro it's still like a week to the school the clothes is right there bro they ready such a crazy time it's so different now that is for real all right guys quick enough for the podcast this podcast is sponsored by hello fresh listen everyone always does this every year it's like all right man i'm gonna bulk at this time i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna be ready it by summer start right now okay i cannot stress this enough this is the classic i'm I'm going to start. I'll do it tomorrow. I'll do it tomorrow. Start today. If you guys have

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Right? Because I assume you have a bit, not like tons. I'm not saying you've got tons and tons of money. You're kind of just starting out. Yeah. But what's most different in your life now from starting music and getting some, you know, cloud, some notoriety, some movement?

There's a lot of different. I mean, obviously, like, I have my own shit now. Like, you know, like, I was at my mom's house, so I'm not there anymore. Yeah. That's a plus, you know. People. There's people, girls. There's a lot of those.

Yeah. I mean, I feel like I always got, like, girls, but now it's just, like, a lot. Yeah. I feel like singing. I feel like singing of all. I feel like people have an obsession with it. was singing bro like yeah and then like a lot of people okay like i see people this is what made me feel like okay maybe i could sing a little bit because i see people actually try to sing and like i'm

like yo what the fuck like have you ever been to like a karaoke and like seeing people actually like really trying to sing and they really cannot sing like it's bad well yeah it's a fucking talent yeah it's like it's like it's i feel like that's god given i like you can train it you can make it better for sure but i think some of it's just like something will just have good yeah like yeah i see people that have tried like when i go to karaoke nights bro that's when i start to feel like okay maybe i can sing like a little bit like you know maybe i got like a little something because because damn this is bad like you know like this even i think this is bad like you know so yeah so how do you how do you um sort of orchestrate your social media and like how have you used that for your

benefit in this in the music space because a lot of people nowadays they want to i mean people have always wanted to be musicians or artists but social media is like without it i feel like you you literally cannot do it anymore like these labels literally will not sign you unless you have followers you can't go hand out CDs anymore and nothing like yeah so if you don't have a so if you don't have it and i feel like me and my manager are always talking about this if you're not like active on social media posting every day and giving people something to watch every day they're going to forget you. They're going to forget about you

because the world is so fast. And then social media presence now is the only way that you can, it's like, it's like, it's like when soldier boy dropped, cranked that on YouTube.

Like, you know, and then everybody wanted to be on YouTube. Like, you know, and, and if you weren't on YouTube or your music wasn't on YouTube, now you're not cracking no more. And then, then it's like MTV or like CMT Top 20 Count which is country music like country MTV and like for me it was like it's like if you're not active on social media bro like you you can't even be an artist now like it's not possible

because that's your fan base that's how you're going to those people are the people that are going to come to your shows and those are the people that are going to stream your music if you don't got that you might as well just hang it up yeah because i see i see i see a lot of artists i see bro i see so many people bro that i would say that could sing way better than me but nobody follows them so like they're just nobody and you think it's because they just don't know how to make the content i think that or something weird about music now bro is like people also like images like an image like people like the way people look like if you're like it's gonna sound fucked up but like if you're good as fuck at something but you're ugly like you might

not get in no that's real you might not get anywhere for real like i'm not going to a lot unless you're like so so good that it's the best ever yeah yeah yeah just like it doesn't even yeah they'd almost be an oddity they'd be like wow he's so good but he's ugly or whatever she's so good but like if you're just like not so good and you're ugly like I'm not saying like I'm the greatest looking person but I don't feel like I mean I don't feel like I'm that ugly I mean I think that I think that I do pretty well so yeah well you got a unique look specifically for this genre yeah and I think why like the oddity of it is also like it's like the same thing i mean like the only other person i could think of is like jelly roll that's like like that yeah which is also since you said who i wanted to do

music with it would probably be like jelly roll jelly rule jelly rule's a dope-ass person too is he's he seems like it i've never meant the guy but i want to i have he's a good dude i know that he's seen like my stuff because he's liked like my videos on ticot before but um yeah i would definitely that would probably be like the one person that I'm like I got to do a song with him like yeah that dude's blown up in the last few years since this country thing and he did the same he was a rapper yeah because bro when I was when I was a little kid my dad used to listen to jelly roll like as a rapper jelly roll yeah and so like it was like seeing him like there was like him like jelly roll there was this other dude his name was like haystack there's just a bunch of they have these weird names

bro, I'm telling you, but Haystack was a rapper and sounds like a country artist. Nah, that's what they were, bro. Jellyroll and Haystack, bro. I don't know. Yeah, and then he transitioned and it just like exploded.

Yeah, because he had dropped that. I think the first one that he did was saved me that saved me song that somebody. Yeah, I think that's the first one that he did and then that song just went like massive and then he just was like from there and he just was straight country.

Yeah, I think the cool thing about music is obviously the image all these things aside like you couldn't have you not that this is all it takes but if you just have like one banger song yeah it can like put you in a position to continue like essentially forever forever obviously you can't stop you can't just like you said you can't just stop making content you're you know you're no one knows about you because you're not reminding them you know daily or weekly whatever the posting is but it is interesting how music can have that effect where it's like there's not many other sort of i guess jobs or careers or whatever

where like you can just do do one thing and kind of stick yeah music is that it's special like that but you know what i noticed too like with singing is another difference i notice in rap it's like a lot of the rappers like they'll blow up and they'll have like one song literally just one or maybe two or three like black boy jb yeah one song like one song bro and then like or the what's his name i got host calling like bro nobody ever heard another one song they song from that guy like ever like if he performed another song bro probably like nobody would know it why do you think it happens though you think they just didn't have anything else or they just like no i just feel like rap is very short-lived whereas like singing like like i said people are

like infatuated with singing because not anybody could rap bro if they really put their mind to it and really rap can be learned yeah like you know but so like people get bored of it like but i feel like when it's coming with singing people are like like, yo, what's his next song going to sound like? Like, what's his next song going to sound like? Like, I know I do that. Like, with Morgan Wallin, like, I'm always waiting for the guy to, like, drop something. Because I'm like, yo, what's he going to do next?

Yeah. But it's always fire, dude. Yeah, because the, I think the rap, because it's more, it's more speaking and less like, yeah, actually vocally singing. Yeah. And that makes sense because you could, you can manipulate it a lot more. Yeah. Like, on you and your stuff, do you use a bunch of auto tune stuff?

I mean, I use pitch correction, yeah. Yeah. But everybody does when they're, when they're recording in the studio. And for me, I've been, I've been producing, like, music for, like, a long-ass time. Like, like, since I was, like, 15. I've been mixing and mastering music. So, like. But in the, but it sounds like a rap, the rap space.

Yeah, it's the same thing, essentially, though. Like, it's all, it's all mixing vocals. The same tools and stuff. Same shit. So, like, for me, I can hear. hear it though like i can hear like when people are using pitch correction so like i can hear it and like all the music that comes out even country music everybody uses it yeah lee zimmerman everybody everybody uses pitch correction just like how to use it the right way so doesn't sound crazy

well the thing is what people don't understand is that auto tune can't make you sing and i'm glad i can say this on here i'm glad i can say this auto tune cannot make you sing and i'd be challenging people like bro go use i okay so like i see people in my comments sometimes they're like oh he's using auto tune i like if i use auto tune i could do that too okay go try bro like you know like this reminds me the steroid conversations like these little steroids that's the only reason it's like go take the steroids yeah like bro it's not gonna do anything if you if you don't if you don't use it correctly though yeah so autotune like you'll if you can't sing and use autotune you're gonna sound like little baby like you know or you're gonna sound like some shit like that though like for

real like because that is like ultimate pitch correction like it's you're missing every note every single note ever you're missing it so for me i know that i'm using it but i can stay in key because people are asking me like do you use it or do you not use it you know but and i do i use it but i mean i prefer the sound of it too like you know but also if you can't see if you can't stay in key and you can't sing and stay in key, then you're not going to sound right. Like, you know, it's not going to sound correct.

It's not. Yeah, I also think when people go to actually perform, it's the people who use more autotune, it's like really blatant. Yeah, it's bad. You really can tell. It's really bad.

And it's almost like, don't even sing, just play this song. Yeah. That you had mastered and just let it play. And I do live, and I do my live shows too all the time. And people don't ever,

I mean, people, I come back. Yeah. Like, you know. Who do you, like, who do you think current days are some of the best singers that you like to listen to? Like, actually singing. Chris Stapleton is probably, like, the best vocalist, one of the best vocalists I ever heard. For sure, Morgan Wallen, that dude can sing.

He's, like, my favorite artist. That's what I keep saying. No, I respect it. He could sing. He's, he's really good. I like this new artist or she's kind of new

what's her name again damn I can't remember her name she did a song with Riley Green I can't remember her name but she there's a couple out there that I really like how they sound

and they're like they're out right now you know so but I still feel like everybody everybody uses pitch grudge bro like so as much as people talk about it they just don't understand that everybody uses it like it's like it's like it's like everybody has everybody hasn't everybody has an iPhone like you know it's like the same thing like it doesn't matter if it's a new one or an old one

yeah yeah but everybody has one tools yeah yeah i was on uh i went to see um a video shoot with the with the weekend and he was he was doing this song with that saxophone player I don't know if you guys remember I don't know what album it was on but I heard him sing and obviously the weekend it's a different genre right not country

but I heard him sing like on the video shoot zero music like no there wasn't even they weren't even playing the feedback so you could sing over it like a lot of artists do this dude sound fucking

like a damn angel that sounds so gay to say but this dude can see no like I'm actually like because I've heard a lot of people sing and I've been to performatists it's different when someone could sing yeah but when you could hear someone sing like with there's just complete almost silence and he's just his voice yeah that dude's fucking

different man yeah like different level of singing i wonder who else is really like that i think chris brown can really sing for sure i think so too he uses his auto tune though he does for sure i his shows yeah on the mic you know who is the most auto tune i feel like i've ever heard on a mic is fucking Travis scott oh yeah because i went to coachella and i was like what the fuck this is like just the whole thing but it's just that's that's his sound so he has to match it you know so when he when he's live that's his sound though so might as well just throw it on there so it sounds like it is weird though when they how they have it live yeah because you could you you hear it so drastically yeah yeah if it's like turned up more or not yeah it's kind of weird

it has like an echoy sound for me i mean i don't know bro like it works out for me And in my favorite, it works out for me. And I don't, I don't really have to use, like, a lot of things. So when you, when you film, like, the little videos, I don't say little videos sounds lame, but when you filmed the, you know, the TikToks and shit, are you filming, you actually singing, or are you filming, like, you've dubbed the music and then you sing? Yeah, like, I record it.

So it's recorded. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever done where it's just, like, raw? I mean, there's nowhere that I could really stand outside. And, like, it would be. it would be kind of hard to get that sound

yeah like to record outside so probably be the only reason I don't I mean I like if you see like if you see me live though that's like what it sounds like yeah when's the last time you performed

in L.A. at the Moroccan Lounge Does L.A. fuck with it? Yeah yeah I got a big family and we just sold out the house of blues too in Anaheim how many people is that like that's dope it's not bad so what what's what's the goal what do you what's what's

what's a vision look like for you where do you want this to be um I just want to be like I honestly just want to be like the the best that I can because I never was like in expecting like I didn't expect any of it to happen but I do know that like every time I make a song bro like I'm like I have to make a song that's better than that song or else why I'm put out a song that I don't feel like is better than my last one, you know? It's like a waste of time. But do you have like a goal, like is it, is it, is it, is it, is it

stadiums? Is it obviously everyone wants the most? Well, yeah. I mean, everybody wants to, everybody wants to do that. Like, you know, um, I just, I don't know. I don't, I don't like expect anything or like hope for anything or give, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I just, whatever comes, it just comes, but, like, whatever happens just happens because, like, I'm here right now. And I don't even know how all this shit happens. Yeah.

So you don't, you don't, you just like, it's funny. It sounds like me. You just fucking wing it or what? Yeah, like, I'm just winging it, bro. But you, you've never, you've never at any point been like, like, made goals and like, this is the way I wanted to be or sort of. I mean, nah. Not, though, because I feel like a lot of people, bro, that, like, seem, they've been, like,

singing their whole life, bro, like, and like, they've been working towards this shit. like their whole life and and i i noticed that like a lot of of artists that sing like some of them like they they'll like they don't they'll they'll hate on my music they're like oh this or that and i'm like yo like i don't know like yeah maybe like you're doing something wrong bro because like i didn't i didn't like plan for this shit like you feel me like i'm not here to like i mean i am here to like outdo other people but like I mean if if me singing is so bad bro and you singing is so good then why is me singing doing better than you singing well you're just talking about hate but that's just that's just the internet yeah but that I mean it's everywhere though bro it's

everywhere it's everywhere because like I've done shows with with people too like you know that I could tell her like they're like low-key haters bro I'm not saying on that but I feel like that's so common, though. Yeah, like, they're, like, low-key haters. Like, they feel like that I don't deserve to be, like, where I'm at. And I'm like, what I fuck? Like, I work for this shit just like you. Like, you feel me?

Just because I don't know why, but just because people like me more than you, that's not my fault, bro. Like, I'm just being me. I'm not really, like, I was never, like, my plan, you know, to, like, make people feel that way or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. But that's just normal.

internet just comparing bullshit. I mean, at the end of the day, that's, I think that's the most important thing to sort of forget about. Yeah. Because you can, you get bogged down and just kind of nonsense and it just takes you in that direction of that just negativity. Yeah. But if you're actually trying to succeed at something, it's

not about focusing on the bullshit. Yeah, no. You know? No. And especially trying to succeed at something and you see someone else do good and then you're just mad about what they're doing is not really going to help you at all. It's like, yo, what's up with you, bro? Like, just Like, I don't know.

Maybe however you're doing, whatever you're doing, do it, like, different or try something different. Like, you know, like, I don't know. I'm just doing what I do, bro. Like, I'm never going to hate on nobody, bro, like, ever. Like, I'm never going to sit here and be like, oh, I don't know how they're doing so good because they're this and they're that. Like, no, I'm like, damn, that's cool.

Like. Well, most people that actually succeed, they're never the one saying or doing that kind of stuff. Yeah, that is true. I mean, I've never met anyone super successful that's like just hates on people for no, like, not no reason, but for any reason. Yeah, yeah. Just straight up. They're just, like, more supportive. And they're, and they're more focused on what they're actually doing.

Yeah. And that's what I feel like sometimes people be like so worried about what I got going on. Like, bro, you're not even like working on yourself because you're spending your time watching me. I mean, bro, this is a, this conversation even outside of music is relevant just to people who want to succeed at anything. It's like if you spend your time and your mental energy, like being mad about what someone else has, you're not going where you want to go. Yeah, you're definitely not for sure. You're like low-key, weak-minded.

You just got to dismiss that shit. Like, I wish everyone understood that. No matter what, if it's singing, it doesn't matter what the fuck the goal is. Yeah. The more you spend time thinking about what other people have, you're just not going towards where you want to be and what you don't have. Yeah, definitely not. That's why I don't do it.

Who's been the most supportive in your family and your circle? In my family, ooh, the most supportive should probably be like my mom right now. You know what's crazy about my mom? And I'm not going to hate on her, but like she did it. She did not like really support my music, like up until like this new shit that I started doing. And then like, and no matter what it was like, you know, or like. it's like my mom or like my aunt or like whatever they used to always tell me like oh just like stop doing music and just like get a job like you know just get stop doing music

and just get a job but if i think back to it now bro like if i had stopped doing music like i probably wouldn't have got here yeah well that's a fact what kind of music i was doing if i had stopped being interested in doing music and just because when people stop doing music bro i see it all the time like they'll just be like oh yeah i used to do music and that was just it like you know like they don't they don't do it no more but for me like the the curiosity bro and like the interest of like making music and seeing my music affect people and like like bro like i've literally seen people like cry to my songs now at this day like to this day and i'm like yo like that's deep though because they can feel like how i felt like they can feel it that's like weird

like you know it's crazy though yeah but it's like it's like it's big for me you you know so yeah i mean my mom she didn't she didn't like support me but she she's been she's really supportive now i'll give it yeah well that's kind of how it goes yeah i mean they're kind of looking at you like you know do something that's going to actually allow you to live a a good life yeah and they probably look at it like this is not going to work because it's the odds of it working is extremely slim so she's probably just doing that out of like trying to protect you yeah well just trying to make me get on the right path in general because i was not the greatest kid

not doing the best stuff no definitely not yeah but that's that's I think a lot of young men specifically can relate to you know wanting to do something and having the outside circumstances

like their family the surrounding friends whatever it is being like ah that's too hard or that's not going to work for you but like that's it's just such an interesting thing that that's in every genre and every category

and any it's that's a commonality just with people. Yeah. And I think it just comes down to like that other person's own idea of like what's possible for them. Yeah. And they just put it on to the people that are around them because they feel that way about themselves or where they were at or what they thought was possible.

But that's like the number one way to kill any of your dreams, no matter who you are and what it is you're trying to do. For me though, music was like, bro, it was like such a drive to just get out of where I was, bro like because i was like i was not i was not staying with my mom like a lot because like i was just doing too much stupid shit and she was just like no but before like before like literally right before like all this music shit took off like i was like sleeping on the floor at my homie's house like in the middle of the hood like it was like bad like house like the house would get shot up all the time like we'll get shot out all the time or just fights and just bro it was crazy like

I was I was being crazy and like I remember I remember telling um my kid's mom I remember telling her like when I had my son like oh like I just want to have a son so like that I could probably like I could leave something like on the earth because I feel like I'm gonna die like I feel like the way that I'm out here like I'm gonna die she'll even tell you like that's the reason that I have my my son what were you doing everything everything bro like I was fucking doing a lot of bad shit like everything like like gang sort of shit all kinds of shit bro like i was doing a lot of i'm not the feds by the way no not sound like that i don't give a fuck it's your life but doing a lot of shit like bro i was i was doing everything i was robbing people bro i was

breaking into houses bro i was breaking in the cars i was fighting with people just all kinds this shit bro just like everything was just like i was just like active do you think that was because your circle or is that what you wanted to do it was just me bro like just being like it was just me like i just felt it it was like i don't know i don't know why the fuck i did it for real now that i look back at it bro like that's what i'm like i'm thinking about it right now like i don't know why i was doing all that shit because like if i if i had to ask myself like is that really me Like, I would say no, bro, because, like, I feel like, for me, like, I'm, I'm just, like, a chill dude, for real. Like, unless, like, you piss me off or some shit, then, like, I might be a little crazy, but fucking just normal me, bro.

Like, why was I doing, like, all that shit? Like, I don't know. I think about that all the time. You don't know why? Yeah. But for me, I feel like it was, like, a respect thing. Like, I just wanted everybody to, like, be like, oh, yeah, like, don't feel. fuck with him like you know like that was like my my thing that has that has to be because of your

surroundings though because it's not just like i don't think it's i i think there is i mean yeah for sure there is a normal like masculine thing to be like i want people to respect me who know me yeah but to some degree it's like to go out of your way to what you know if you're causing harm to other people there's well there's always there's always because out there bro like there's nothing to do so everybody is like always up to some shit or like or you go to the store be like oh yeah like what's up with you bro like you feel me like like it'll always be a problem everywhere because everybody's trying to do that out there so like if you like could get to the point where even the people that are trying to do that to other people they're not doing that to you then like

you didn't did a lot of shit you know yeah i see i feel like that's where i was you know like just anybody bro who crossed me like i was i was like i was just going crazy bro like what would you say to kids that that are still involved in that's because like that's i think that's relevant to a lot of small towns in all in all in all states yeah really it's relevant to like a lot yeah like any i wouldn't i would i would say bro that that shit is like definitely there's something and like for me being a prime example or like a lot of people there's like there's something better out there like i feel like everybody has a purpose bro like everybody literally has a purpose i don't know if you're supposed to be driving a semi truck or are you supposed to be cutting somebody's lawn or you're supposed to be you know

building a building whatever you know but everybody has a purpose but everybody's purpose is not like negative like you know everybody has like a good like a like a good like there's something that you should be doing and and if you feel like you're not doing that thing you probably ain't like you know you're probably not doing it probably just wasting your time you know but for me i always i would always be like you know like what what like i always ask myself like what what am i supposed to do because i hated working bro like i hated working in nine to five like i hated it and i was like bro i know this is like not what what what i'm supposed to do like i feel like there's just got to be something else you know so like yeah for me though i would i would tell like any any kids for

real that are doing like shit like that is just isn't it's there you're not going to get anywhere you know like you're just going to go to jail for real like because most most of them aren't even like smart enough to even to even do the things that they're doing that's why they just go to jail or they yeah you're caught or they get killed obviously like you know and i see it happen all the time i was at i was out right there in banning i was at um i think it was my hume's my homie's uh my momie's cousin's high school graduation and um we were all standing outside after the graduation and there was a kid right there and he had been like beefing with these other kids bro they shot this dude right here at the high school graduation and shot him like 20 times

right there broad daylight yeah yeah like right there on the sidewalk like just after he just graduated yep yeah yeah i i i understand this sort of shit but and they were all like 14 yeah like all them they were like 14 15 year olds that shot him i wonder why it's still you think it's just a thing because of like poverty in certain areas no i think it i think it's the same shit that i was going through it's just like everybody wants to like prove their self yeah everybody wants to be like yeah i'm that like i'm not like i'm not god like you feel me like and and and to a point when everybody's trying to do that then well then you're going to have to get rid of the other people that think that they're that guy too

like you know that's kind of how you have to look at it otherwise they're just more more sort of like they're in your way in a in a sense yeah it's weird because it's like it's so it's so relevant to so many areas or certain cities or and it's but the outcome's always the same you always hear people eventually getting out of it in some way and being like what the fuck was I doing yeah because in it like you said you don't you don't really succeed at that there's no actual like end success. No, there's nothing. There's nothing that comes from it.

Like there's no end goal. There's no like, all right, like now I'm here and I get this or like there's there's nothing. There's never that. Yeah, I wish more kids knew that because I remember growing up being being around and being involved in like certain certain things similar to this where I did. I remember being younger and thinking it was cool because the the older kind of kids around me were in it and made me feel like. like it was cool yeah but looking back i'm like what the fuck was i do she was stupid yeah it was

dumb like there's literally no point to it bro it's just like and then a lot of people just see other people do it like kids because kids are easily influenced and they're just like oh yeah i'm trying to do that like you know like why i don't yeah couldn't talk i think i think it comes out to just also i mean there's so much going on in the world but i think it makes people feel like You know, I guess it's kind of, this is, it's super multifaceted. There's a lot of reasons why, but I think a lot of people are just lost. Yeah. And they don't really know what to do.

What I'm saying? Or how to do it. There's a lot of people that just don't even know what their purpose is. Yeah. I remember that was me. I feel like maybe I might have found my purpose now or what I'm supposed to do. But I knew, yeah, and it's weird, bro. Like, I knew that, like, there was a reason or, like, some, there had to be, like,

some like greater reason that I'm here bro because I think I've almost I think I've almost died bro like over 20 times like I've rolled my car like eight times the fuck are you doing what the fuck are you doing no like not not eight separate times like when I crashed my car rolled like eight times oh okay not car rolled eight times yeah yeah no not not eight times like I crash rolled my car like eight times bro like I think I've been I've been shot at so many times bro like one time bro one time i was standing outside my homie's house bro and like this story's just so crazy to me bro one time i was standing outside my homie's house we was all just standing there right and this car just drives by hellas slow and like that where we were at bro like where that's like our

that was like our area so we was like man like we're like nobody's gonna come over here like you know and so this car drives by hellas slow bro and then like it comes back up the street hell of slow and then back down the street hell is slow and then it leaves and then like five minutes later bro two cars come around the corner like hella fast bro and one car pulls up one car pulls up right in front one car stops like down here and two dudes get out of this car and these and like three dudes get out of this car and they just start shooting at us like they're like they were like 15 feet away from me bro like thank god they didn't like have good aim like you know but they were like like i was hearing like like the bullets go by like you know my homie turned around and he just ran through the front

door like he didn't even open it he just ran straight through the door bro it was crazy it was so but I remember like after after they pulled off I was like damn like I heard the bullets like going by like it was like a movie bro like it was like crazy bro it was probably the craziest like shooting that I've experienced myself and that's not the only one but you was almost done yeah like i mean i still i still like i get it i just i don't know i don't know i don't know why people just continue it's like a story is all these always always every generation it's the same thing yeah and it and it is but then there's there's that and then but then i would go like like i would be like and shit and that's where i feel like my like martial comes because like i would

be like and shit like that and then like if i wanted to like relax or like whatever like i'll go to my grandma's house and my grandma lived like in the country like you know and it was just like on two acres like a house like you know there's always like some country music playing and like my grandpa would have like the baseball game on and shit like you know and it's just like it was like a mix it was like a weird mix of worlds that I lived in but like I'll leave that and go back over there and just yeah acting forth like you know so like that's kind of where like the mix of like my my like everything like how I got the look that I have, I want to say. Yeah.

And the sound. Yeah. It sounds like probably the lyrics and shit like that as well. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So would you do it all over again the same way? No. Probably not.

Yeah. But I don't think that anybody, I think that, I don't think anybody would do their life over again the same way if they have the choice. Really? Would you? Same exact way. Yeah.

Same exact way. All the way through. I mean, there's some things that I, you know, things that I've learned relationship-wise that like maybe I would have applied differently. But at the same time, I wouldn't. I think because I think that's a special part of life that it made. Everything you describe, right, as being fucked up in all this, you know, the shitty circumstances, it all kind of added to who you are.

Yeah. And so when I look back on my life specifically, it's like these. The shittiest times amounted to who I became. Yeah. I was just, the key for most people is trying to figure out how to make it, how to make the good out of it. Because a lot of people, when it's bad, they kind of just stay in it and they don't, it doesn't evolve into something good.

Yeah. You know? Like me specifically, I mean, I grew up without a father, a bunch of different fucked up things happened and seeing things a certain way and treating myself a certain way in relationship to it. but if I didn't go through all that I wouldn't have anything to share I wouldn't have the voice

to say the things that I've said for all these years that amounted to where I'm at So there is like, I'm not saying you should be involved in fucked up shit or it's a validating good thing The sooner you can figure out that it's nonsense the better But at the same time it also adds to who you are

So it's just an interesting question I like asking that question of people because I can say like without a doubt I don't think I would change anything Because I wouldn't have the perspective that I have if I did. That's true. You know? I feel like I wouldn't have a lot of the perspective that I have if it were.

My dad was, my dad was around. He was like, he was in my life. Yeah. I didn't live with him until I got, like, older. Because I feel like, that's when, like, I knew him. Because my dad was, my dad's just like a regular dude. Like, he, like, my dad is just something else. But I feel like he taught me, like, a lot, a lot of stuff that's, like, stuck with me.

in the way that I move and like carrying myself and probably the reason that I'm not dead, to be honest, because, you know, my daughter, he was, he was like a pretty, like, street involved dude, but he's not, he doesn't like gang bang or nothing. He just told me, he's like, but that's just stupid. Like, you know, like, why are you going to go listen to someone who's potentially as dumb as you?

It's a true-ass statement. Like, you know, like. That's funny. Or like, it's a good way to put it. Yeah, like, you know, like, and that's what it is. being like from a gang or whatever like you know you got like your big humus like you know why you can listen to somebody that got nowhere yeah you're just gonna lead you nowhere like you feel me like you know but he's like but you can listen to me though because I'm gonna tell

you like like like he just he taught me how to do a lot of the things a lot of things in the street honestly like you know um not because not I wouldn't say because he wanted to see me like become like a street dude like you know but I would say that he's just saw what I was getting into. And so, like, he just taught me how to, like, not die at all, yeah, how to avoid the worst case. Yeah. And, like, you know, and, like, he taught me a lot, honestly.

But it wasn't my life, like, my whole life, to be honest. Yeah. You would say you're closer to your mom, though? No. No. No, I'm, I'm, it depends on, on the aspect, to be honest, because, like, I could talk to my dad about anything. Like, there's nothing I, nothing I can't talk to him about or, like, yeah.

Where my mom is, it's more just, like, positive things. She's going to hear the story from five minutes ago and be like, what the fuck? She's going to be like, what the hell? No, I think she knows that that. I think I told her. I mean, I put my mom, my mom, she's funny, bro. Like, I've even, we've put her through some shit, too. Like, you know, like, I'm trying to think of, like, this one time.

And she was like, the funny thing is, like, she was so down to go, like, until, until it all went down. Like, you know, so, like, I think it was, like, my little sister or something. My little sister had got into it, like, her boyfriend or something. And, like, I don't know what. He was, he said something to my brother. And he was talking, like, some crazy shit, like, to my mom, like, saying all this crazy shit. And my mom was like, well, we're going to go get your sister. And I was like, well, just let me, like, let me and my brother do it.

And she was like, no, I'm coming. I'm coming, bro. and we get in the car and like so we get in the car we're looking for them we're over at their house and then they seen us and they when they when they seen us outside the house like her boyfriend came out the house and then he drove the car up like in front of where we were and he basically was like yo like fuck you come get me like if you want if you want like come get me and then he just pulled off so like my brother just like boom hit the gas and just smashed off now we're like high speed chasing him down the freeway like on the suicide lane like you

know middle of the freeway and my mom's in the backseat she's like she's like slow down and i was like mom you wanted to come like what you're talking about she's like she's all like she's all breathing hard she's like i'm gonna have a hard time i'm like mom you gotta chill like and then my brother's like swerving he all cuts him off middle of the freeway like we jumped out the car trying to like get he like locked all his doors and we're all trying to get him out the car my mom's all in the car like having a pet we put her through some it for real but hey she wanted to come so you know what I said she wanted

she wanted to go she'll laugh at that one though because that life bro it's just it's so it's crazy because it feels necessary in the in the moment but it's so unnecessary but it is and then when you're like in jail or some shit bro you're like damn this shit ass like no one cares

yeah no one cares and it's just you in there and quiet just looking at bars like you know yeah have you ever spent time yeah I've done yeah yeah just like two weeks but yeah that's not bad got out some simple shit yeah um so when is uh when do you perform next uh november 1st in anahm or actually i got i had a show next weekend i got a couple then actually my next show is uh next friday inside a strip club in a strip club

yeah wait where at what city uh in l a it's called dames and games I want to come, because I want to see you perform. Yeah, well, I think, I was going to say, I think you should come to November 1st. It's the House of Blues. It's in Anaheim is sold out. That's going to be like, like these other little shows, like I do like just a couple of songs, like, you know,

and then, like, just to get like a little money. But the House of Blues, that's like a headline show. Like that's, yeah, it's going to be. And then it's sold out. So it'll be fun. We'll get you. Yeah, I'm not, I'll get you in. So what's a, like I said earlier about you kind of coming

into this and trying to make all this happening didn't really necessarily had a vision it kind of just seems like it kind of found you or you kind of found it randomly almost what what is your sort of vision now has that changed or is it still just kind of like wing it um you know like I don't really know what's neck because like okay like I'm still trying to figure out I feel like I'm still trying to figure out why people like fuck with me like I still feel like genuinely that I'm trying to figure that out. So like, I'm trying to, like, I don't know, I'm writing all kinds of shit. Like, you know, like, all kinds. I write, I write so much music, really. Like, I got so much music, like, you know, already. But, like, for me, it's just, like, trying to find out, like, what's next

for me is, like, trying to find out why people or what people like, like, about. Like, why it'll really stick. Yeah, like, how to make it stick. Yeah, you know, like, that's, that's what it is. I don't want to just be like that one person like oh yeah he got a couple good songs like you know like i'm trying to like people have people like waiting like oh once he gonna drop another song like i'm waiting for that like you know like because everything he puts out is good like you know like that's that's what i want i don't want to just like be like have that one song that everybody's like oh yeah that's that one song that's why i do have one song right now they did really good and hell of people be asking me to play it i'm like oh man i want like another song.

Like, you know, like, that's, that's like my next thing right now is to, like, have another song like that. I'm like, um, I mean, though, we put out a, we put out a track, um, a month ago. Yeah. Well, I had a track like a month ago, and it's called Something About You. And it's, it's doing pretty good. It's like 400,000 on YouTube, so. Yeah. It's not doing too bad, you know, but I still, it still hasn't, like, got the same traction as the first song that I ever did that was like,

Yeah. I mean, not everything is going to hit this. It's just not like just social media in general. Not everything's going to hit the way. Unless you're Morgan Wallet. Right. That's a different level. Everything he puts out is just never as not only is it never bad, but not only not only that, but it never like everybody knows all his songs. Yeah. Like every single like if he puts out a 20 song album, the first 20 numbers of the billboard be Morgan Wallin. Yeah. that shit is crazy it's it's i'm actually even surprised how popular country became again yeah and i feel like he plays a huge role in that though in in in that whole atmosphere yeah i feel like he plays a huge role and why country has become a more um like wide widely listened to genre yeah why it's more it feels more mainstream again yeah yeah i agree and i feel like he plays like a huge role in that So is that, like, the ultimate goal if you had, like, a song with Morgan?

Oh, yeah, for sure. That'd be crazy. But a realistic goal is, like, I want to song with each other. More realistic? Yeah. Yeah. Well, because... You got to be kind of unrealistic, though, I feel like, you gotta shoot, you know?

You know what's crazy is I have not seen him do a song with anybody either. I mean, he does, he has little collabs. A little bit, like, like... That surprised me that he did a song with her. And that's some social media shit. Yeah, like, it's surprised the fuck out of me that he did a song with him. but like if you really look bro like he doesn't have really too many songs with anybody like he got i mean he got a song a little dirt but yeah obviously that was a business move

like you know broadway girls yeah yeah yeah um yeah um yeah it is a good song yeah it's a good song but um yeah he doesn't he doesn't it would it would be wasn't after the whole n-word scandal yeah yeah yeah which never bothered me you want to know why bro is because he said that at his he was at his house yeah he was outside of his own house like what like people like like not not i'm not i'm not saying that it was okay like you know i'm not saying whatever i mean bro like the world we live in now bro is so dumb bro like he's outside like first of all bro like for me he's like and i didn't even listen to him at this time yeah i might have no i don't think i listened to him yet at this time because i found it out like after i started listening to him

why he was like low key like blackballed yeah because like like it was like he was doing huge numbers but nobody was talking about him like you know but i just i found it i found it weird like you know that they even tried to like blackball him for that because like he's literally at his house yeah and he didn't even use the hard r oh he didn't no oh he said it with the a yeah oh so yeah so it's cool the internet is so sensitive the internet is so sensitive I swear. Bro, like, I was so confused on this shit, bro. I was like, bro, why is they hating on, bro?

And it's funny because, like, this girl I used to date, I went to a Morgan Wallen show. I think I could pull it up. This girl I used to date, and she got me this jacket. And I was like, bro, I have to wear that to this Morgan Wallen show. Because when I went to go see him live, bro, this show was so funny. Yeah, it's interesting.

I mean, the sensitivity of the internet is, it's just stupid, though. Like, it's, I feel like it's forced. I feel like most people actually do not get up. And it's funny because, like, I broke up with this girl so long ago. But, like, this video is still on her page. What? Yo, yo. That's hard.

I was, like, so long ago, bro. So, like, I was, like, that's funny, bro. Like, I wore it to a show, and there was all, like, people taking pictures. with me and then we were all laughing about it and yeah people i mean the internet's just made people overly like sensitive and not even just overly sensitive it just allowed i feel like it allowed because my my opinion on this sort of shit is like the real racist people are the ones who are like well don't say that man yeah i feel like they're secretly like they're really the racist yeah like but honestly bro everybody's racist bro like in a way bro everybody's racist

oh you're talking that real shit now everybody's like see this what happens in the podcast spending on time and he starts being to real shit next you know you're going to start talking about Jews and shit

right nah bro you want to know why I say everybody's racist it's like it's like it's like when you're driving

bro so you're driving bro and like fucking the car is like driving all weird and it's like

an Asian person next to you bro like what are you gonna say bro like what are you gonna say bro

you can't drive like you know like everybody fucking bro everybody's racist just a little bit bro I swear to God.

I think it just comes down to that this, it's the tribalistic thing of just humans, like human nature. Yeah, everybody. And I'm not even saying it's a bad thing or a good thing. Yeah. It's just like a human thing. Yeah. And like, I don't know.

Like people could be mad at me for saying it, but I don't care, bro. Everybody's a little bit racist. Like, everybody done said, like everybody said some racist shit before. Yeah. No doubt about it. And I'm saying all racist. Yeah, all of them. Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. Everybody. Asians, Indians, everybody. black people white people it just became it just became on the internet the thing to just be like oh let me shame someone for this yeah it's like a trend yeah yeah i understand when it's like if it's outwardly like you're you're saying we should be violent towards that then it's then it's like yo you're weird that's yeah that's weird like bro chill out but just like words and shit the fact that words have so much power over people now is crazy it is honestly bro like and i

be sitting there like bro why do you care like so much about what somebody else has to say bro like who cares yeah and i lost that shit bro like i lost that shit like so long ago bro like like so long ago bro i remember you know it's funny bro i'm gonna tell you something that my dad told me bro one time bro when i was little bro and this is when i lost all care of like what people think or like anything bro is because i used to be scared to talk to girls bro like when i was little and i remember i was telling my dad i was like bro i'm so like i want to tell her that i like her but I'm scared. And he's like, bro, why are you scared?

I'm like, bro, because like, she's a girl, bro. Like, what's your? And I think I had to be like in sixth grade. I think this was in sixth grade too. And he's like, why are you scared? And I was like, I don't know. He's like, bro, let me tell you something, bro. He was like, you know when you go to the bathroom, bro,

you take a shit on the toilet and that shit smell horrible, bro. It was like, she do that same shit, bro. She's going to the bathroom. Yeah, that's a good advice. He was like, she do that same shit, bro. She go in there and she take a shit, the shit smells horrible, terrible, terrible. bro. He's like, you know, you got a long hot day, bro.

You ain't took a shower all day, bro. You musty. She'd be musty and shit, bro. Like, she'd probably be musty all the time, bro. And I'm sitting in there, I'm like 12 years old, bro. He's telling me this shit. I'm like, damn. So now I'm like, damn she nasty, bro.

Yeah, I don't want to talk to this bitch. I'm sitting there like, damn. But the older I get, and I always tell him, bro, I still tell him to this day. Like, bro, you telling me that? Like, changed my whole perspective. It's good advice. On, like, women. Like, you know, not.

that they're like nasty or anything it's just they're the same like you know there's nothing yeah there's nothing different about them than us i mean there is but there isn't right it's just human yeah i mean like that's that's a man super common with young man just being like afraid to approach girls and i'll be like yo my manager got that problem yeah yeah still he had he seems great i'm just playing oh he married that's good that's good no yeah valid this guy he's loyal that's a loyal guy right there Yeah, something like that. Nah!

Don't do him dirty. Nah, bro. That's crazy. No, he's loyal. I know he's loyal. He's loyal. He's showing me text. He was like, you know, he's a good guy.

That's a good guy right there, bro. No disrespect that guy. That's crazy, man. No, he is. That's some real good fucking fatherly advice, though. Yeah, it was. It changed, it definitely changed the way that I think, that I look at shit for sure.

Yeah. I mean, that applies to everything. it's like we're all we are just human all of us yeah like we're not perfect we're not supposed to be like that that advice could be boiled down to so many aspects even when it comes to like trying to pursue what you want to pursue in your life is you're not better than someone else you're just you just go after it and don't be afraid to do yeah because that's what it comes down to is like what what people do with the fear thing is they go they hold other people to like higher levels than themselves and then they're afraid to approach or they're they're afraid to pursue whatever

it is because oh maybe i'm i can't do what i want to do and someone else do it and i'm afraid to try to get there exactly but it's all just like that's how you don't get there yeah that's how you don't get the girl that's how you don't get the opportunities is by just not doing it yeah or being scared exactly that's why that's like kind of relates to when i started seeing i was just like fuck it like i don't care like what people think at the end of the day i'm right here and fucking banning just sitting here not doing shit so i mean what i know no matter what they think like you know i don't really got nothing to lose you know some people you know what's crazy bro some people when i started singing they were like no bro you got you can't be doing like you

like you should not do that shit and i'm just like and then there was the other people were like bro this sounds really good and i just chose to only listen to the positive people so how'd you do how'd you decide that because i think that's the hard part for people is they have have a really hard time i didn't i just didn't listen to them bro like as soon as i seen that i had uh like some people were like hey this is good like you know I just use that like that's what drove me like there was people telling me no this is horrible or this is bad like you know but like just those few people that just kept telling me like yo this is good like just keep doing it keep practicing bro like there's like there's potential like those people kept me like going like

there was there was days bro like I would have like $20 my last $20 and I was just going straight to my homie studio like bro i'll give you $20 just like record this cover for me like i just got to keep practicing bro and like he would he would do it every time so yeah it's cool it's good to find that it's hard i guess some people don't always find that like those those openings yeah well it was it was uh in in my in my favor that this guy i'm not gonna say his name or no but he was like he was a drug addict so like he needed money like and he was it's crazy because he went to school for like like recording music he's like he's like hella good at recording music but he was a drug addict like hella bad so like anytime i wouldn't i could tell him to record me a song for five

dollars he'll be like all right bro i got you bro like i got you both like i got you yeah yeah yeah bro and i'll be in there like just going crazy until i finally started learning how to use like his setup and shit and then i'll just be like bro i'll just get you $20 and you just go wherever the fuck you want to go i'm gonna just stay in your room and just use your shit like you feel me like and that's kind of how i started learning how to that like i've been mixing shit for a while but watching him mix shit and like level out vocals and do effects is where i really kind of learned how to like really make a vocal sound like actually really good you know so yeah yeah so prior prior to that you were just kind of like just winging it trying to

figure it out you're just learning like what do you mean like when you went to go record music other than that oh yeah like you were just like because the guy did it at it at i'm assuming at like a higher level than normal yeah no he was where you were at yeah he was he was a drug addict yeah valid it was higher than normal yeah that's why he was so good at it he's just like i swear now when he would be when he would be mixing it bro like like super fast bro like i'm like trying to learn the shit but like he's going so fast bro but finally i'll ask him questions i remember the first and he was like like he had like a smoker in mind bro so like one time and we stopped we stopped talking for like a little bit because of this like he had um i was like bro how do you be

like you know like how you be doing the shit that you be doing like could you teach me and he got all mad and he was like bro you're just trying to you're trying to learn how i do everything and shit and then like i don't know like later day bro he fucking ended up he ended up getting over and we kept recording but the most craziest part bro is right before my music blew up the last day that i ever seen the dude and that the the last song i ever made with him was my first video that went viral and i remember he was he finally got irritated with me and he's like bro you're in the studio way too much bro like i like you're here way too much bro and and it's probably not even to get anywhere bro probably not even to get anywhere bro so like i don't know why

you're just like spending all he just had like i don't know like a tweak or breakdown or something shit and he just went off on me i was like you know what fuck you like i'm gonna just i'll figure this shit out like i don't give a fuck like i'll save a little money and i'll buy my own shit and i'll figure it the fuck out like you feel me i remember i went that day and used the last sound that i had with him and made a video and woke up the next day and that show was out of a million views and i was like oh shit like what the fuck my brother was all telling me he's like damn bro he's kicking himself i was like i don't know bro but that's crazy i mean that's that's that that's god right there yeah like it was crazy how it worked bro like it was super crazy and then

after that video blew up i turned around and i was like well shit like i got to sing if i'm if i'm a sing i got to write a song first song i wrote went viral and i was like yo what the fuck is going on bro and then this guy called me and i was like damn that's beautiful yeah that's kind of how it works i feel like yeah for for most successes it's just like you you kind of like get to the end of it yeah and the people who really make it are just the ones who just continue. Yeah, just keep pushing. Like, you know, and there was, and I'm not gonna lie, dude, fuck me up, like him telling me that too, because he's like in music and shit. Like, he knows music. Like, you know, but I was just like, fuck his opinion, dude.

Like, I don't give a fuck. I'm still gonna do it. I'm still gonna do it. I mean, that's how you have to treat it. All my videos were doing like 200 views on TikTok and shit. I'm just here just spending all my money, kind of like, just because like five people told me it was good. Yeah. And I was just here, like, spending all my money, like, trying to see what I could sing and how I could sing and to what extent I could sing. I didn't know shit. I had never sang before. So more than I was even trying to do covers, even though I was posting, more than I was trying to do that, I was really trying to, like, learn what I can even do. And I'm still to this day finding out new shit that I could do like with my voice. Yeah. Because I've only been singing

for one year, literally. Yeah. So before that point, like, you were you ever going to quit no no probably not not i mean i mean if i was here now like a year later and like all my videos are still doing 200 views i probably would have yeah i probably been like fuck this yeah but it's not the case yeah yeah but it seemed it just it's i mean i think the difficult thing to wrap your head around is that even if let's say right now your stuff didn't do as well as like the other songs the the real the real the real reason why you would continue to succeed is just like just continuing yeah so even if right now like you said if you were still getting less views i mean unless you were like yo this just is not for me

yeah and if you decided to stop that's that's that's when it just wouldn't work ever and and the thing is though is that like all my views are going up like they're going up like the song that i have that's really big right now it's called cigarettes um it never like it took it took a how long is that song been out like a year now about to be like a year and it's been a while it it's been like a long time since that song came out it's obviously my most known song but um that I wrote but um like now we just put out that something about you and that's at 400,000 in a month like the cigarette song wasn't even doing that it was not even like on that level you know so I don't know bro I'm just trying to outdo the last thing that I did you know I'm just saying I'm just saying

I think the most important thing for you, just like telling you directly is just not stopping. Oh, yeah. Like if you really want it, you just can't stop. Yeah, and I don't want to, bro. I don't, I don't want to stop, bro, because, like, I'm already here. I feel like I'm like, like midpoint. Like, you know, like between either going up or just becoming somebody that did something. Yeah, once and then stopped.

Yeah. Yeah, like you said earlier. You know? But I think even if, like, I'm just. telling you as this like man to man human to human if even if you get let's say in the next few months or the year it goes like this yeah the only way it you know it never does that again is if you just stop yeah and if you really love this yeah you do it regard like that's i think the i think why people find the real success in any sort of industry or niche or you know business is because they

just continue no matter what if they don't get the feedback they think they're supposed to get her yeah or they once got yeah i think the people who like come and they have those one hit songs, they probably do another album to do some other songs. It doesn't hit the same. And then they just go, oh, they don't like me anymore. I'm out. Yeah. But like that's relevant to, like I said, any industry. Yeah. You just, especially now with the internet, you just can't stop. Yeah. That's the fucking key.

Yeah. You just got to find the next thing that works. Yeah. It's not about stopping it. Pivot. If you got to pivot in certain ways in the meantime, obviously you still have to make money to live, pay bills. But, but if you quit on something that you actually are passionate about and have, have, feel like you have purpose in. Yeah. You're just quitting on your fucking self. Yeah, that's it. And you're just,

like, what's the point if you're not actually doing something you really love? In all aspects. There's no fucking point. Because you don't want to do it, you know? That's just about it, you know?

I mean, I notice, even I notice, bro, like making content and shit, like, it feels like a job. Like,

even after I leave here, like, I'm going to go do that. Like, literally, I do it every day. I think I post on TikTok two to three times a day

every day for the past fucking year. yeah like you have to i never missed a day you have like and and like and like my thing is like i refuse to miss a day because there's like somebody that's probably not going to miss that day like if they really want it and now i feel like they want it more than me and then there's people that aren't doing it and i see the difference with them too or i see there's people that post like every other day or like or like you know like they'll post every other day or they'll post they'll post every two days or whatever but what i notice is like they'll have videos on their ticot that are They have like 2,000 views or 3,000 views.

And then here and there, they'll have a video that hits like 50K, 60K. And then here and there, they'll have like a 3,400 one. But like none of my videos on TikTok, I don't think are under like 50K or 60K, like every day that I post. So that's how I know that the algorithm is pushing me. Yeah. Because I'm consistent, though. Yeah. It's all about that.

It knows. It's like, it's like a commercial, you know, in this sense. Yeah. Like, you know, they're not going to. play a commercial for a fucking restaurant that nobody goes to. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? True.

So that's just how I look at it. Yeah, it's just the consistency. I'd be super tripping about missing a day. Like, if I know I got to leave somewhere like with him or some shit for like two days, like I'll go to the studio and record like eight videos or like six videos and just have them like in my phone ready, like with all the sounds and everything just ready to post.

Like, just so that I'm like, I don't miss the day. Yeah. Then recently I got a camera. So now I got to do it like with the camera. So instead of using my phone, now I got to set up like the whole camera. And then like, um, I also recently shot one of my music videos that's out now. It's like a mashup that I do. I'd be doing like those like mashing up two songs together.

Yeah, actually. Country and R&B. Yeah. Yeah. And so like I shot, um, I shot a music video. I just, I just like to learn how to do shit, bro. Like, you know, because you couldn't. never you could never go wrong knowing how to do something that like somebody can't hold against

you or like that you don't have to wait on somebody like what if there's no camera man like you know what if they're all busy then you're just like damn i can't shoot a video today like you know or that was me like with the with the guy that was recording my music too like he wouldn't text back one day or he wouldn't reply so damn i can't fucking post a video today because i can't go to the studio so you learn how to be self-sufficient yeah so that's just like learn how to do it all by myself because I think that's the key yeah it makes it easier especially now social media like you said this the demand to have it stuff constantly yeah do you do other content that's not like music specific besides like

podcast for example you don't do like blog kind of shit no not really because I don't want to confuse my algorithm either I just wanted to stay where it's out yeah my algorithm pushes me as an artist like crazy so yeah if I feel like if I if I'm jumping around then it's going to be like, yo, who do we show his videos to? Yeah. But you never thought to go to another platform, like YouTube, for example, have a different channel and have, like, vlogs, like, of your actual life? No, not really.

I feel like my life is boring. Yeah, maybe. I don't think so. It's a little boring. I mean, maybe, like, my shows, my shows would be interesting. Yeah. I think I want to do it. Like before or after reaction, like stuff, you know, talking to fans and interactions like

that. People like to see that kind of shit. Like show vlogs. Yeah. I just I just think like social media now with artists like yes obviously using the platforms to promote the music and to show the music you have to do that but I think like now more than ever like you've noticed this with streamers really drastically and you see all these like mainstream artists that are now sitting down with fucking Aiden Ross or Kysonat and they're like talking to streamers and they're on stream yeah five years ago that I've been like that shit's gay no one's watching this that's lame I'm fucking this guy I'm this rapper guy like You know, people are going to listen to me regardless. That was the whole vibe. Yeah, it is crazy.

It's completely different now. Social media has completely taken over. But it's all promotion, though. They see that people are watching that. That's, that's, they're promoting themselves. Yeah. It's like, it's like nobody would, nobody would go on Jimmy Kimmel if nobody watched it. Like, you know, or like, it's like the same thing.

Like, Kaisana has, like, he's got his own, like, damn near a TV show. Yeah. Like, you know, like, it's. It's like international, like, you know. But I also think beyond the fact that it's a promotional board or it's that platform, because you're right, it absolutely is. I think it's also humanizing people who are these artists

who are, you know, involved in these industries. And it's making the fans that would be of those artists more connected, feel more connected. Well, yeah, because they could literally directly talk to them right there. Yeah. Like, you know, I mean, there's like millions of comments. But that's why I think like you doing like, I'm not saying you got to just start making vlogs or YouTube vlogs and shit,

but doing things that, you know, show more of you as a human in relationship to at least the people you work with or your audience, I think that would be a big benefit to you. And that's just me giving like social media advice because I've been doing it for fucking 15 fucking years. It's just something to think about. And you got to do it all the time, obviously, but I just think creating that connection with people is is the key now to like this long term success. And I'm saying that directly from like my long term success in the space just because that's all I've ever done. Granted, I never made music. I just kind of spoke about my life and, you know, the things that I did in regards to fitness. But that's why I've always noticed whenever I would go meet people, it would always be like,

oh, I watched this. And I, like, dude, I had some guy DM me today. I don't know, I did some picks on prize picks. And he was like, bro, I've been watching you for 10 years. We just, I just won this fucking barlet because of you. It's so crazy. I'm like, what the fuck? But it's like, you know, and again, I'm not an artist in that sense.

I don't make music that way, right? different sort of artists and creativity-wise. But I'm telling you, I think, I think, like, all the new generation people that come up are going to be, they're not going to be social media influencers, but they're going to feel more human to the people. Yeah. Because, like, also, too, the reason why I say this, AI, right? You see how much, like, everything kind of is starting to feel weird and fake and, like,

off? The more real you feel to someone, I think. think like those are the people that are going to continue to rise even higher because there's so much fake shit out there now there is though there is so being like a human to another human is like is going to be it sounds weird to say but it's becoming less of a real thing than it's always has been well yeah because everybody's like so trapped in social media though like anything bro anything on the internet the internet's like like bro like I used to watch like the news like when my grandma you don't even got to watch the news

no more like everything's on the internet yeah nobody goes and fucking turns the news on in the morning no i mean my grandma still does but yeah but that's what i'm saying like that that that's a you know in not saying this and it's you know obviously hopefully your grandma lives a long healthy life but it's a dying thing yeah you know and like eventually those people are going to be gone yeah inevitable right but the new wave is just like it's all internet it's all social media it's everything is there now and that's another reason that i feel like i have a really really a lot of like a strong support is because I sing like a lot of old music and like people are always like I get like people telling me a lot like like bro we appreciate like they're

keeping like our generation of music alive bro I cannot stress enough how much like the older stuff it just is I don't want to say it's so much better it's obviously different because of the time real music though yeah it's like you can actually tell that they mean they meant something writing this like the song means something there's so much fucking meaningless songs out now bro that it's like like yeah what is this bro like don't get me started on the girl rappers too bro oh man i just want to throw it all away man i can't do it man that georgiana girl have you seen her just anything she'd be like uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh that georgiana girl have you seen her she got out some bars though no she's terrible though i know you i know exactly who you

talking about. I don't know, bro, because like, I'm more talking about, like, gat and shit. No, I'm not hating on nobody, bro. It's just like, what the? No, I, what I'm saying is I just like music with substance. Yeah. I like music that makes you feel something. Yeah. I mean, then again, I also like music that when I go for, like, a run, I do some cardio, it's just like, there's no lyrics. It's just fucking sound. Yeah. You know, like some house shit. Yeah.

I just, I obviously everyone has their different, you know, opinions on it but i just feel like yeah we've music overall has really gotten away from like meaning yeah there's no meaning it's more it's more music than yeah more sounds yeah like it sounds and autotune yeah so no no i'm not even ain't i'm not even ain't but it is though no no no not at all not at all i can tell you get those comments in huh i do that should feel personal but i don't even mean it like that because i think you also i think you you sing about stuff that just like there's more substance yeah obviously we know we talked about the auto tune it wasn't a shot i promise no that's okay but i get it i don't even be i don't even be that's your that's i know that

you see that comment you probably pit not when i see it bro it's because it just makes me want to tell people like bro go try to sing with the fucking auto tune then go try like i want to hear you i'm i'll follow you right now bro just to just to see you post a video of you singing the same song right now as me with auto tune and let's see how it's up I just want to see, bro. Like, I just want to see. And then I don't even crank my, like, it's not, it's not, it's hardly there. Like, it's hardly there.

What's the level? The level got to be like, maybe like 30 or 25. Yeah. What does it go up to? It goes up to 100. Okay. But it goes up to a little baby. Yeah, that's crazy.

It goes up to little babies on the top. Yeah. Top of the spectrum. Man. Oh, brother. It's been a pleasure. Yeah. For real.

Thank you for coming. Yeah. So your show, you have a show. I have, I mean, November 1st, I have the House of Blues, December 4th. We have the House of Blues in San Diego that we just, that just went live. Right now, that's the only two main, like, headline shows that I have coming up. Yeah. That really specifically, I have the House of Blues in San Diego, December 4th.

Yeah. That's like my next headline one because Anaheim sold out. Yeah. So if they want to get tickets for that, they can get tickets to that. Yeah, they could get tickets. They just click the link in my about. Yeah. And so where are they, obviously, Elijah Scott on everything?

Yeah. It's Elijah Scott music on all platforms. Okay. Anything else you want to tell to people? Go follow me on everything. Elijah Scott music, man. So love, man. Thank you for having me.

Appreciate you, brother. Thank you for coming. Yes, sir.