RAWTALK - How Shane Stoffer "TOGI" Lost $250,000 Gambling

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

On this weeks episode of RAW TALK, Brad sits down with TOGI & talks Drugs, Steroids, Law of Attraction & the Time TOGI Lost $250,000 Gambling... Hope you guys enjoy, see you next Tuesday! Sponsored by: Prize Picks Use code “BRADLEY” & Make your first $5 line up & get $50 whether you WIN OR LOSE! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/ivHR/BRAD Sponsored by: Versa GrippsUse code "BRADLEY15" for 15% OFF Versa Gripps Here: https://www.versagripps.com/collections/versa-gripps?utm_source=event&utm_medium=other&utm_campaign=bradley_june_2024

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Let's get back into this podcast. Oh, we're going. Yeah, we don't, we don't plan shit. Okay, word, yeah. No, but this is, like, it's almost surreal because I've only been doing, like, the influencing thing for, I posted my first video eight months ago. So, like, up until eight months ago, I was, like, always a fan, like, seeing clips in here. And it's like, oh, and now I'm sitting in here. That's it.

Well, bro, you've done it. You've done it really fast. Yeah. it's been I think just being there's so many people have done it before me being able to watch like how other people did it like taking pieces and strategies like

especially um the Andrew Tate method bro. I love it I love he is like which part which path well obviously like not like going on the internet for a little bit I was considering like when I was trying to like find my way on the internet

I was like trying to go viral but like still be myself to a degree yeah so I was thinking it's Like I could just like be super misogynistic and stuff like that and do like the sneaker route. But then it's like I don't really like fuck with like that's just not me, you know? Like I wanted to stay myself. But specifically the Andrew Tate part that I copied was his clippers. Like I pay people to just chop up my stuff and it made me go viral like immediately because

I get probably 40 posts out a day even if I'm not, you know, making content. Yeah. Yeah. That's a I mean that the interesting thing about that is you're. you're a great example of what you just said is how people are successful on the internet now. It's not even so much views on videos, even though that's obviously great. But like what I find interesting is that you've had success in your, I'm curious to know like if it lasts. I'm not saying you will not last, by the way. But because I keep having this conversation with people about

having success or creating success on the internet. It's so different than when it was like a year ago, two years ago, five years ago, 10 years ago when I did it, it was just like you made content like you're making and then the videos was the thing that spoke but now it's all clips so how do you think like what's what's differentiating you why you think you're more successful than you know someone who popped up around the same time kind of got popular and kind of fizzled out why do you think you still have success because what I think is that to have the success that can stick is like like you just said it you saw things that work for other people but you were still yourself because I think a lot of people see things at work and they just do those

things like without actually being themselves in it yeah well that was a huge thing so i first like got on social media and i tried for two years no success had 20 000 followers on ticot and i realized it was because i was watching other people like i was obsessed with other people's content and so i found myself copying other viral videos other clips other like the exact style of content like stuff andrew tate would say would like really like resonate with me and then i would kind of make have part of my personality, but I decided I'm just going to, like, in order for me to be able to be like my truest self on the internet, I need to not watch any content. So I stopped consuming content entirely and I still don't consume content. Like to this day, like I scroll on

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stripped of your identity if you watch other people's comments And it's scary that you see so many people even that are cloning me like they just like act exactly like me like everything I say is like the Bible to them and then just how it goes with these influencers. So once you stop watching content, you're able to think so much clearer and think for yourself and have just like more genuine one of a kind content. So I started posting shit that no one had ever seen before because it's me, my unique one of oneself. And so that's like really what. made the difference for me because anybody can have 100,000 followers on Instagram. Like you just copy like the viral clickbait, all that kind of stuff. Like the trends, you can copy that shit and go viral like no problem. But that's when you fizzle out really hard. But I do have to stay like humble and like because I've only been doing it for eight months. Like I could fizzle out like you know this is like this is when people will find out in six months.

Because bro, this is when usually people's lifespan is like eight months. So, like, this is, like, where I find out. But I think, um, I, I, I had a lot of fear, like, a few months ago about surrounding the whole thing of like, like, what if I fall off? Like, I get, this is my job now. Like, I need the views to stay up and up. Um, because you see somebody like, even though Sam Sulek is still killing it with the views. Like, Sam Sulek, you know, he's still number one in the fitness industry.

Or you see somebody like Alex Eubanks, they, their views are down like 90%. 90 plus percent from their peak. And it just makes me like when I was studying social media, what's the difference between, uh, sullick and like somebody like Jake Paul? Because sullick was just as viral off the bat as Jake Paul was. But now Jake Paul is an A-list celebrity. And sullick is not on that path. Not sitting he obviously doesn't, he's not, he doesn't really want that. But just like what is the difference? And it seems like there's just no evolution with his content. Like it's the same thing every day. It's the same. thing, which is great. People enjoy it. But like, Jake Paul went from his, like,

teenage hype house self. And now he's a bomb-to. How old were you in all that? How old you now? 22. Holy shit. How old did you think I was? Around that age. Yeah, yeah. But, but, but, but so you were watching Jake Paul the high, you were watching that when you were what, like fucking 15 or something. Yeah. Like, that was forever ago. I was a sophomore in high school watching Logan Paul, Jake Paul. And so it's like, what's the difference between them? And they just, They evolve their content and keep it new and fresh. And as they evolve as a person, they continue to make content that's new and exciting.

Like, if you do the same thing every fucking day, like you're going to fizzle out. And that's what most, especially with fitness influences. Yes. Because fitness is so fucking boring that like, it is. Like nobody wants to watch that shit.

I've done it for so many years now. And like, yeah, I had to just stop making fucking straight fitness videos because you're just like, how many times can I talk about a fucking bench press, bro? Yeah, it gets, and there's so many people. doing it. It's so saturated. And then even more so now you have somebody like Sam Sulek who just does it better than anyone else. So it's like it's not even worth it to make fitness content

anymore. Yeah, I get it. And I was going to ask you about that. You, you'd never have fitness influencers on this podcast. Like I'm, I guess I'm like not really a fitness influencer anymore. But other than I saw you had Greg Ducet. Like you, I've had Greg. I've had Larry. I've had a few people. I've had Ryan Shaw. I've had guys that I've kind of like made content with over the years. but historically I mean they're just the shadiest fucking people I've ever experienced like they're just completely

terrible humans yeah okay fair enough who just like see opportunity and take like take from people I have a whole story connected to that which we're not going to get into but I just don't like I never had good moments with people in that space

the ones that I do like they're still kind of in my life like I I filmed a lot of content with Domazetti I don't if you remember that kind of shit back in there with the bro science shit is so funny and i still is he is he doesn't he doesn't post much as bro science as much anymore um we were actually talking about making some content again again together but he's at my gym all the time but regardless like i just haven't had great experiences with those people in that industry because it's just like it's all what can i get yeah and it's all like i remember years ago like just being put in this position where

i had to deal with all this drama on the internet and it was like the same people who the week prior were dick riding to be in collab with me like imagine everyone imagine i hit you up was like yo dude let's do a video and you're like yeah yeah cool i'll be back in like a month or something right and then something bad happened and someone's talking shit about you on the internet and then i can make a video and say yeah that guy sucks yeah and then i do it just because i can get views sooner than later yeah like i experienced i just so all my experiences in it just led me to be like i'm not really like i love the fitness industry because that's my life like that's i have everything because of the gym because of that space

and I did exactly what you talked about like just kept evolving what I was doing that's why I've been doing for so many fucking years and you nailed it like when you said earlier about Jake Paul Logan Paul going like this is who I am and then now this is who I am and I'm learning this and I'm growing

and then just involving that in their content as they continue that's why they have the success so yeah anyways and a long answer to answer your question they just fucking suck they're just shitty fuck so when you saw my shit like did you see me as a fitness influencer

because a lot of people like I'm classified still as a fitness influencer yeah like yeah like your basis but like out of out of all the people that I've seen over like the last I would say two years who popped up and just fizzled out to be honest uh you you could tell that your your content is unique to you and I then that's why you have the success that you have right now on the platform and I don't think it'll fizzle out because you understand that one thing like let it be unique to me whatever the fuck I'm doing yeah And I think that if you can maintain that, then you'll always maintain, like, what you're talking about.

At least it feels like you're trying to achieve, right? Yeah, 100%. So it's just kind of like a lot of people, yeah, they were the new face. They had a nice body. That was it. You know what I'm saying? New face, nice body, new face, nice body, rinse, repeat. But now there's a million of them.

And everyone's like, all right, cool. But what makes people different is like their actual personality, their relationship to it, the way they speak to their audience, all this stuff that a lot of those people, people that go like this and like that, they don't do because they don't know how to. They know how to be like, look good on a camera and that's it. Yeah, you don't even post. You have been out of fitness for years, it feels like I've never seen.

You're just a celebrity now that happens to be jacked. That's pretty funny. But that's the goal. Honestly, fuck. Yeah, being so obsessed with. Dude, I love the gym. I love the fitness space. But it's like I did that for eight years straight.

I posted, bro, at one point I posted on Instagram literally for eight. years every single day about like some sort of fitness related content or viral related fitness related content and i'm just like dude you get to a point where i'm like i remember ticot came out when i was like fuck dude i got to do this shit now like this shit i just did for like because look you said eight months yeah eight years brother eight years that's fucking insane like it's bro i i see people i see larry wheels he has 3 000 posts on his instagram i don't know how many you have oh i've deleted thousands thousands and thousands fuck how old are you know 35 and you started when you're 27 22 22 23 no excuse me started fitness I mean when I was 15

it's very serious since I was 17 and then posting content yeah like in 2011 so however old I was then like early 2011 oh my God bro I was like eight years old yeah and yeah wow I guess I'm blessed that the era I'm in is like TikTok makes it so much easier to go viral bro. The clip thing is insane. That's the key. Like truly it doesn't even it doesn't even matter like it did years ago. Like you had to have views on videos. Now you just need moments that can be clipped and repurposed. Yeah. But at the same time, you also need to be you need to stand out in a way. Like obviously not everyone's going to like everyone, right? But the thing that's key now is like you just, what you said is just being you in relationship

to whatever you're doing and just holding it true. Like instead of being like, oh, I'm doing this because I think they want me to say this or I think they want me to do this. That's all bullshit. Yeah. Most people do that. I was there when I refer it for sure. I was there.

That's why you didn't have a success. And I was not getting anywhere with it. But you also need a solid like core content, long form content to get to make money. Like you can have viral clips, but you could a viral clip on somebody else's account isn't going to make you any money. Like, you need somewhere to, like, gather people and, like, you know, you can sell your product or whatever, however people make money, like YouTube revenue. I don't know.

I can't even monetize my YouTube. Why not? Because of the gambling stuff? Well, most of it gets age restricted and, like, a lot of copyright and stuff, I'm horrible about, like, background music, and it's such a pain in the ass. And I'm also weirdly paranoid about it. Like, I feel like I kind of can get away with some stuff because I'm not in the program. Like, if I'm in it, they're going to watch my stuff.

my account much more closely because like my last video I would like I would it's not crazy but I would be making like an extra like 20,000 a month if I was monetized. But it just doesn't feel worth it because I'm afraid of like I just like getting videos taken down account taking down without YouTube. I would be set back pretty large. Yeah. So you think YouTube is the best your best platform? Yeah, by far. I used to be Instagram but then I got my Instagram band and that fucking set me back so far. Um, well, bro, I was posting videos of me just taking steroids and working out. Like it wasn't even, which was another thing.

That's why I went viral originally in a short form because nobody, yeah, bro, nobody ever. I'll show you my TikTok. Nobody ever thought about posting videos of them injecting steroids and then working out. Um, yeah, because, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, but, okay, I hear, like, I haven't done this in months, but this is, um, um, um, Wait, can you pull it up here? We've got to, because they're going to see this video.

I want to see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, pull it up there because it's not going to load on my phone. IG? No, no, that one's deleted. Look up on TikTok, just Togi or Shane Stouffer. Shane Stover. But yeah, so that's why I got banned on Instagram because I was just like injecting steroids. And then I would make a workout at it.

And it would go every video, 10 million views, every single day. I'm surprised they didn't get you banned on TikTok. Like, how did that they let that go? Oh, I don't know. It's still up. It's like it's on the internet right now. I think that's why people didn't do it before because it would just. Yeah, but no, yeah, I'd like, there's something about it that just people literally 20 million views a week minimum.

They were probably like, I can't believe this motherfucker's actually doing this. Oh, shit. These are like my new clips. Where's my account at? So yeah, I just think it's like the most recent one. I don't think I inject anything in this, but. Like, I'm taking steroids in it. Like, that's Anna drawl.

Oh, God, Anna draw. This is when I was like really into it. Oh, I see. You did it like, it did it so fast that it's like, okay. And if you scroll deeper, they started getting more strict so like I couldn't pin as much. But like that one with 3.7, it looks like I'm about to inject. Right above it. Oh.

This one's pretty quick too. Oh, so I don't inject it now. They started banning some of them, like the old ones. Like, I've probably had 30 videos taken down. But yeah, I would just fucking take steroids, work out. But look at the views. Yeah, it's funny. It reminds me of like my old workout videos minus the fact that I never put any steroids in.

Well, bro, I had to put the steroids in because I'm small, bro. It's like my physique alone isn't going to get any views. So it's like, well, you're not small. But not, bro, not big. Like if somebody like like shizzy is way bigger and he had like the fake nattie stuff which made him viral but like to go viral for your physique you have to be ipfbb pro and even a lot of ifbbb pros people don't give a shit about like I'm not small but for social media standards that's not five million views every post so that it was like how do I get more views like just take the steroids and bro people love that shit like because people well people hate it so much they're like oh steroids to look natty yada yada like why are you promoting drugs, which is fair. Like, I don't stand behind that content anymore. Like, it's not a great impact on the world by any means.

Like, now I'm more of a comedian, which is, I think, a much more beneficial, good kind of content to the planet. But that was the stuff that really did it for me first. But anyways, my Instagram got banned, and that was, like, a huge setback for me. I just think so many kids are going to be like, that's the ticket, bro. I'm not going to lie when I was doing that shit. I was, I would probably get like 50 DMs a day and, like, thank you. for inspiring me to take steroids.

A lot of these kids were like children, bro. Like, I'm not going to lie. There's definitely a lot of kids that like, but bro, I don't feel like guilty about that at all because if you take steroids because of a video you saw on the internet, oh, you're a fucking idiot. Like, come on. Let's like think for ourselves here. So I don't take any responsibility for these kids.

But that has definitely fucked up a lot of kids. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they were fucked to start. Like that what if they're making. their decisions based off of that kind of shit like they had what do you're like what are you doing yeah exactly no matter what they were going to be fucked and maybe i taught them a good lesson if anything you're welcome kids look at that look at that it's an awesome guy now you know don't don't listen to

people on the internet because now you got fucked hormones it's a shitty ticot yeah they probably realize it like it wasn't what they thought yeah bro quick too like after probably about a month of taking rad 140 it's messy fast what you you you take anaddraal like often like what do you tell you ever talk about exactly what you take oh dude all the time and people like my last cycle i know it probably doesn't look like it because i don't work out anymore like you sound like me go bro like right now i'm on a gram a testosterone and it like i haven't worked out why a gram because why a gram okay so my last cycle i'm coming off cycle so i'm actually coming down like so a gram is coming down yeah yeah it takes a while because so last cycle yeah i started it like

three four months probably four months ago and I was like I at the time I wanted to do one last big blast and like really look freaky for the internet kind of like push the limit so I took a gram and a half a test a gram of EQ um six I use a growth hormone a day um a day what 30 super draw pre workout 30 anadry workout holy shit um but bro then I I just stopped working out and I was on for this whole time I hopped off early because I was on two and a half three grams of steroids and I literally didn't work out so I was getting smaller how are you not wanting to work out with all that in you I feel like I would have to wait crazy bro I don't I would have to break walls I was just non-stop like I was just too busy bro not like too busy to

like work out but too focused on my career path that I was going down like I was getting really a ton of opportunities in the world that I wanted to be in, which was not exactly like the fitness steroid world. So I was just like traveling, getting drunk a ton, gambling a ton, and I just like wouldn't be working out or dieting. So now I'm like kind of trying to come off. So right now, yeah, it's like 900 test. But I got smaller on that cycle. I took, I started at like whatever, 230 and I took that cycle and I'm 210 pounds. Well, just to be clear, it's because you didn't work out. Yeah, and I didn't eat. I didn't work out.

It's not the, it was my fault for sure. But so that's, that's an interesting thing because a lot of kids think they're just going to take shit and just be fucking big. Oh, no, no. Which there are probably outliers who are, there are people genetically who just will take shit. They're not just going to grow a magic muscle, but they're likely going to hold on the muscle without trying very hard.

Yeah. But like for most people, I think it's important because I think a lot of people think they're just going to get on steroids one day and just be fucking jacked. Does not work that way. Oh, not even close that. Even if you start off super skinny and you take steroids, like it's really not going to get you that far. Like you might put on some water and like a tiny bit of muscle. But like if you're not, like everyone's different.

But at the very least, you have to work out like three days a week and eat a lot of food. Even if it's dirty. Like yeah, you have to kind of be trying a little bit, which I failed to do. So now like I just got gyno now and high blood pressure, which sucks. But yeah. It's, I can't lie, but boy, why are you taking a gram of a test? Bull, bro, I can't just hop off of a fucking gram and a half. I would be depressed right now.

It takes time. And also, no, it also the EQ is still in my system. Like, it takes forever to get EQ out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's funny. Just that you could take 250. You be good. Oh, yeah, I feel great at 250.

That's when I feel best. It's like 200, 250. And this is it. That was my last big blast. And I wasted it, which is unfortunate. Like my androgen receptors are probably fry. after that like it will never be the same but i don't plan on going above like 500 tests ever because i just don't i'm not really dialed like that like when i used to be into it like

yeah i would work out six days a week and i'd eat 300 400 grams of protein a day and like really try and grow and now i just don't give a shit like i pretty much like why do i need to be bigger what i guess you're 260 right now but yes i lost some weight um but and that's what you feel best at like It's just easy for me. To be honest, it's easy to be at. It's easy to hold it. After all these years of fucking training, it's easy to hold it. Did you start off fat or?

Oh, I was so skinny, bro. And now you're 260 and that's just, I guess it's been a long time. I mean, bro, I'm fucking 35. That's how when I was 15. It's been a very long time. And I never really, like, the most I ever weighed was about 280. And but I always throughout my entire career, like, whether I looked freaky or less freaky, I was always around the same weight.

My weight never fluctuated crazy. Body recomb just kind of changed. Yeah, I feel best, like, way, like 200 pounds. I feel solid. You're taller than I thought you were going to be, by the way. Yeah? Yeah, yeah. A lot of people say that.

I don't know, maybe because I don't post my legs. Yeah, it's strategic, you know? Yeah. I mean, bro, like, it also is even more of our people are like, where his legs? I'm like, dude, I don't even train them. I probably hit legs like once a month. Like, you don't have small legs, though. Yeah, but, I mean, like, for a granite, it's also wrong.

Yeah, yeah. It's pretty funny. It's pretty funny, though. Why did you think you had to take that much? Like, where does this, these 40 and 60 and test and eat? Like, where did that even come from? I didn't feel like I had to, but I was like, why the fuck not? Like, if my blood work isn't fucked, like completely fucked, like, I might as well.

And people are like, oh, you're going to die by 40. Like, wasn't that what Greg said recently, right? Yeah, Greg and I have like a back and forth going kind of. I never have reacted to a Greg video, but I was blacked out in Mexico and I reacted to one of his videos. And so now people think we have beef. But no, Greg is, yeah, a big critic of mine. But no, a lot of people are like, oh, you're going to die by 40. And it's like, that's the bodybuilders that take grams of steroids for years. Like, if you take a gram, two to three, four grams steroids until you're 30, then yeah, maybe we have a problem. But I was like,

this is my last one. I'm just going to fucking try it and see how it feels. See, like, what's to happen and it was not a positive experience overall but on my own accord like I didn't make the most out of it but yeah I got smaller I got gyno I lost a bunch of hair and um definitely less healthy now like my lipids are fucked but you know that's you fix that like yeah bro it's easy to fix and it's also these are the games we play like I knew what I was signing up for it's not like um like that had no idea how these compounds affect my body and so I made the decision to do it And it was a shitty decision. And now I've,

yeah, that's the thing. I just think, I feel like most kids just they, they see it. They don't get it though. They don't understand all the consequences. They just think,

oh yeah, definitely not. Well, especially you see a video like that. That doesn't really outline the consequences of it. But dude, come on. Like everyone like kind of know.

Like no one's so stupid where it's like, yeah. Like people like to play dumb, but it's like everyone knows it's bad for your heart. Everyone knows it's bad for your kidneys. Everyone knows you're going to lose hair. Like people know, but like kids just don't give a fuck.

And that bro. Like, you didn't give a fuck when you're 16. Like, when you're 16, it's just like, I'm going to take the drugs and it's cool. Like, it's just like, I waited longer than that, but yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, but the point is like, yeah, young kids just, and people my age, I'm 22. Like, it's just like, we feel very invincible and to a degree we are. Yeah.

Some people, some people get fucked though fast. Yeah, I guess I should knock on wood. I could drop dead on this podcast. Like, no, you won't. I think you'll be great. Yeah. But some kids, some kids do take it. It really adversely affects him.

And that's the fucked up part. I think these kids, those kids are going to find out the hard way real fast. Yeah, which sucks, but also at the same time, it's not like you can't, like you can just stop taking steroids, but some people don't really pay attention. Like one guy used to look at a watch on the internet. His name is like the dealt daddy or something. I don't know. He said he took Sarms from 16 to like 22. So early, bro. Never got his blood work done once. And then he had a heart attack at 21, 22. And that's just that that that's those are the people that I really fuck. The ones that like don't get the like physical like you don't get acne. You don't get acne. You don't get. it like you get all this hair loss but like inside you're fucked but you don't check and then that those are the kids that like you get your blood work done yeah I get my blood work done um pretty much every month actually yeah it's all super frequently like I'm pretty on top of it um as much as I can and I am well right now I'm not that healthy to be honest but like as expected like people see my blood work I posted my blood work and people just like tore me apart like you're 22 years old how

you have that many red blood cells yada yada yada and it's just like when you're on cycle that's how it goes like you can't be on cycle and healthy especially Greg bro Greg was telling everybody had leukemia and like chlamydia and it's like my blood way why chlamydia based on what because i had like uh extra white blood cells in my urinalysis which is like happens when you have chlamydia but it can also happen for like a million reasons so now i get everyone thinks i have chlamydia which is that's kind of funny yeah i guess it's like funny but like what the fuck gregg and gregg knows bro it's not great stupid like yeah yeah he knows what he's doing but it's it's good think Greg's great because it's like he's turned into a hub for the haters of like yeah yeah because

without like a structure to the haters they kind of lose potency but now Greg like everyone can go to Greg to shit on their favorite influencers and it gives them it makes everything more viral it makes me more viral because everyone like I get so many comments now of like people coming from Greg videos and they're like you're a piece of shit this and it's like it's like the haters are back that was another thing when I wanted to go viral I was like I need something like why I started doing the steroid shit is like I need something that's going to get me a lot of of haters. Like as many haters as I have supporters is good. And then the haters kind of fizzled out, but Greg has brought them back like full force. It's sick. I love Greg. Even though he

continuously shits on me pretty hard. I love him. I think he's great. Yeah, yeah. But he gets the game. I mean, it's the internet. Your name's popular on YouTube. Type it in and fucking get some views. That's how it's been forever. Yeah. I mean, he's got two million subs. Like I can't complain. Like he's got his own platform. Like I benefit from it too. Use my name all you want. And anyone can use my name for any reason. Like, it's just more views that I don't have to work for. Because every view that I have to work for is, like my last video took 26 days to make, probably $30,000.

Like, that's a pain in my ass. From traveling and what? Yeah, traveling, just drugs, alcohol. Like, what drugs? A lot of Xanax in the last video. Well, because of traveling or just for fun? Just because I was into Mexico. And it's like Xanax and Ritalin is like the Mexico experience.

Like, that's what you do, bro. No, no, no, no. That's it. You were in Cabo, too. We all know you were ripping Danix in the riddlet, a shit ton of it, too, Bradley. We all know that's how it goes in Mexico. But it gets expensive for sure. So that was the last video.

And then gambling is, I count gambling as I'm going to try and write off my gambling losses as a business expense. I'll talk to my accountant about it. That would be incredible. Yeah, it would be awesome. I allocate like 30, 40,000 a month just to lose gambling for content. so I'm prepared, so it's not, like, devastating. All right, guys, quick and approach for the podcast, VersaGrips, check this out. If you guys have been looking for hand grips or if you use, like, the wrist straps, whatever

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Let's get back. into this podcast because i a few months ago or like last month i lost like i lost like a quarter million in one night on one stream oh my and i wasn't sponsored by any casinos at the time and it was like it was genuinely devastating like and it fucked up a lot of stuff with my clothing brand like that was money i did not have to lose yeah um so after that experience i've smartened up a little bit and like kind of like set a gambling budget that i can like lose and be happy with you know it's funny that's just reminded me a steve bro just remind me my buddy's Steve will do it.

Yeah, I, uh, gambling budget's hilarious. Steve, uh, I just, he just texted me the other week. I'm hopefully gonna, uh, do a collab with him at some point. Yeah, it'd be good. You should, for sure. Yeah, he's done. He was also one of the guys I watched growing up. He's been around for ages too, like six years, right?

Yeah, yeah, we've been, him and I film con. Yeah, six years. Well, I remember the first seeing you, you fucking, he would, the joke was like, oh, Brad the Martin sold me drugs or something right yeah that was super viral that was the first one I first time I ever saw you yeah that was that that was probably about six years ago it's crazy how many different like iterations I've done on the internet like different fucking timelines but that was one of the most viral jokes people still come up to me today and they're like yo you fucking sold me drugs or whatever like what I'm sure they could sit like like kind

of old pretty fast after this yeah years of you know how it started was because back when I was literally your age, I used to sell steroids. Oh, okay. I didn't know that, bro. Because you seem like such like a mature, like not like necessarily like a square, but like just like a very in line person. So I thought it was a complete troll. I thought it was completely like.

No, so I told Steve that once and then it just became a joke. But it's not like I didn't sell drugs in the moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was years ago. And like, that's how I made a lot of extra money. and like he was just like oh this is it and he just run with the joke that was that's awesome that is makes the joke 10 times funnier that you actually sold steroids yeah yeah that back in my day man like made them and everything well you know that is so sketched dude you're selling

people homemade steroids well it was it was originally it was because I wanted them that were cheaper I wanted them to be cheaper for me yourself yeah yeah and then it just it wasn't like I was like going up to people like oh you want to buy some steroids it was just just like friends who are like oh i want some too kind of shit well i mean it's also like it's obvious like you and it's like he's taking steroids like i have people even ask me to buy steroids for me and i'm not nearly as large as you like i can imagine a lot of people who see you like that's where i need to buy stuff yeah stupid so so as far as content right um what do you enjoy making the most doesn't sound like fitness shit i hate fitness bro i'm i'm gonna work out after this just for the

YouTube video just to like make that section of my audience happy because like I'm still like the transition out of being a fitness influencer I'm doing super slowly so that I don't like completely shot like if I just chopped it out of my content entirely one day I would lose my whole following and it'd be really difficult like the engagement would be dog shit so like I kind of been like churning it slowly so I had like a minute of fitness in my stuff it's just a workout at it but I enjoy I do gambling mostly like so fun bro it's it's and I've always loved it I hate that it's so fun do you gamble a lot or I mean I I do I don't even like to say that I don't like to say I gamble a lot but when I have opportunities to gamble I gamble yeah um but yeah that's my

go-to now is gambling because I've always well I when I was in college pretty recently I loved gambling and I just didn't think I wanted to be a fitness influencer for whatever reason that was like my calling. So I never posted about it, but I kind of like did it here and there on my content. And people like thought it was funny. And I was like, well, I like this more than fitness anyways. Like, I might as well just start gambling and post about it more. And now I, most of my videos involve like a large amount of gambling. I would say it's at least 70% of my content. It's gambling. It's pretty funny. And bro, it's a, yeah, gambling. I do a lot of crypto stuff. What about like in person gambling? Do you do a lot?

like a lot of that shit. I like the online shit way more. I don't know why. You don't like blackjack? Blackjack in person is so fun. Blackjack in person is great, but that's the black check and roulette in person are fun. But there's something about it doesn't hit the dopamine receptors the same as the games

they have for online. And I know online gambling is like way like probably pretty rigged and like way worse odds. But there's something about it. Like we were in Vegas like a month ago and we were doing roulette downstairs and I just got bored and we just went up to the hotel room. and gambled online like all night long in the fucking Bellagio

because I just like online gambling way more but no I mean in person is fun here and there for sure that's your shit is blackjack I love blackjack it's just fun I think the vibe of it is fun like obviously online stuff I like as well

but the vibe of like sitting down like chilling is just I enjoy that a lot and it's also a nice experience because the casino like sucks your balls and like you get free shit drinks and that whole thing Yeah, they want to keep you there. Yeah, it's a nice, like, experience, but I don't know, something about online.

So the most you've ever lost, you said was $250,000? Oh, yeah, one night. It was all on a live stream. And that was at that time, that was pretty, that was all my money. That was my life savings at the time. So that was ass. That's on what game? Plinko.

I played Plinko. No, it's the worst game. No, no, no, no. You don't get it, you don't get it. You don't get it. You just don't get it yet. The dopamine, that shit, and then it like darts out in almost 1,000 X's and it goes in. No, bro, it's the best game ever.

That game is fucking toxic. In the last video, so in the last three weeks, I've wagered $6 million on Plinko alone. I was running the numbers. Like, I cannot get enough of Plinko. I love that shit. But I did Plinko for about 40 hours straight on stream, lost my life savings. And that was actually pretty recent. It was like two months ago, maybe.

But we've since recovered in Plinkgo, dude. Plinko, you just got to give it time. Yeah, yeah. Classic gambling. Give it time. It's, it's, um, I gamble more responsibly for sure now. But that was my biggest loss for sure. What's your biggest gain?

Um, not that much. Latin, in one night, in one night, probably 70,000. Okay. So like nothing, and that was actually in the last YouTube video. Doesn't that? But in my, so after the $200,000 loss, I lost my life savings. And actually, so this shirt I'm wearing is my clothing brand. I was supposed to pay the manufacturer for the clothes.

But when I was gambling, I was fucked up on, I think it was Xanax and cocaine. And so I just like, it was like, fuck it. I'm spending the manufacturing money. So I spent the clothing manufacturing money on it, lost the clothing manufacturing money. And then I texted to my buddy, borrowed 15 grand to pay the clothing manufacturer, lost that on Plinko again, like a week later. And so then I sold all my jewelry, took $25,000. This is all documented on my YouTube, by the way.

Took $25,000, put it on black, and it hit. And then so I had the 25 to pay the clothing manufacturer. And since then, so that was like pretty much the luckiest thing. If that didn't hit, I would probably have killed myself. I don't know what the fuck I would have done after that. But that series of events That actually It was a net positive losing that 200,000

Because that event went so viral Just because of how outrageous it was And I was just doing a ton of drugs at the time So like Because obviously no clear minded person Is gonna partake in Especially Plinko Bro I was doing it

When my friend sent me the 15 To pay the manufacturer I did $15,000 Plinko balls No And I lost it immediately Like do boom boom boom done right away it was five minutes it was all gone so um now i've smartened up a lot more but

no dude plinkka's awesome i will forever stand by plinkgo like even though i've played it for oh that's actually kind of sad to think about the amount of hours i've sat just like my spacebar on my computer it's got a little worn down a little bit it's worn down from plinko balls just spamming space bar too much i love it dude i i actually hate it but i don't why why not just like why not a better game like That's the best game. There's no, no, no, no, dude. I get it, I get it. Something about the animation and the noise.

Like, the way it tickles my brain, I, I cannot, I cannot stop. Why not like smaller bets? Like smaller, you know? Well, because that's fucking stupid. It's like, then it doesn't like hit the, bro, because I'm sure you have shared this experience to a degree. Once you up the bet, regardless of how much money is in your bank account, you need,

that's the new baseline. And once you've gambled, once you've done a $100 blackjack hand for a few hours, never again in your life can you do a $50. I hate that. You have to get the same dopamine. It has to be higher, even if you don't have money in your bank account. So it just gets out of hand. And eventually, like, are you not, are you not worried about your gambling getting out of hand? No, bro.

Well, now I'm fucking sponsored by a casino. So I get paid to do it. So that's really like people don't like to, people like to shit on me for that. but really, I still gamble all real money, but that's the only way that you can beat the casino is by effectively working with the casino because now they pay me to use their casino. So I take a portion of what they pay me every month

and I set aside savings. This is my personal money. And then I have 40 of it. I can lose this and we're cool. And so now it's like I'm guaranteed to come out on top, even if I rinse the whole 40 is no problem. I see what you're saying. Yeah.

Yeah. And I guess, like, as my bets need to grow, like, then we might run into problems because then maybe the 40 is not enough to lose. So to the critics and the haters, what do you say to that when they're like, oh, will you promote gambling? It's bad. Well, bro, I always fucking promoted gambling. I was just getting fucked for it before. Like, I still lose the same. It's not like my account is all of a sudden winning more money. I still lose the same amount of money. would lose more now because I gamble higher stakes I still I've always promoted have I was lost

but now I at least I'm not getting fucked at least my mental health isn't taking a toll my businesses aren't taking a toll because of my I enjoy I've always loved gambling at least now I can win doing it even though it's the same thing but if you watch my content you would if you watch me lose $200,000 playing plinkgo in one night and then you say I want to do that like that doesn't make any sense in my head and you could see that I was like visibly depressed on that stream like really the chat spamming like go to bed like calling my friends like yo go get him out of his room like my fuck it at one point my roommate was like knocking my door and it was locked and it was like I can't talk right now I'm busy like the whole world could see that I'm just

like fucked up on Xanax gambling but there's nothing about that experience or watching that that makes it look fun like there's the there's the viral clips where I win and those go viral but it go that kind of shit where I'm losing you goes just as viral and you see that like I don't know how you can possibly consider that promoting gambling yeah just I mean just that it's out there but also to that point is like I think it's there's a there's a line of like you have to be responsible for yourself not you necessarily I mean you obviously myself everyone but like you said if someone can watch that and then think this is a good idea I'm going to go put this amount of money and like also understanding when you're very candidly saying i get paid from a casino

to do this obviously not everyone has that opportunity so they're gambling with their only money maybe it's not a good idea unless you have the same sort of circumstances or unless you're smart and you know when to say when because i get i get like gambling in a lot of cases it's like it's fun it's like someone considers fun this or that now the problem with it is that people get so fucking like the dopamine like you said trying to chase it that they can't control themselves in it but it's like then just be better at controlling yourself I guess yeah well exactly like how can I sit here and try and what happened well if you're an adult get your shit together and figure the fuck out but if you're a kid like what happened to their parents like being responsible

for like their kids and teaching them like while of a sudden do people try and place the responsibility on people like myself, like, you need to be a better role model to show these kids. It's like, do you be a better role model? You go and make a video and tell people like gambling's bad. Because, bro, anyone can post anything on the internet. There's always going to be a bad influence and there's always going to be a good influence. Like if you want a difference to be made, you go be the good influence instead of telling me to stop being a bad one. Even though I don't think I'm a bad influence by any means. I will maybe like not necessarily like I get what you're saying.

I get what you're saying. There's there's it's just fucked because I mean just truthfully we're in a day and age where kids just fucking see anything and they just go I'm going to do that without thinking but you're right at the end of the day it's like why is that kid think that that's a possibility is no one teaching them that you should think about this a little bit more deeply or is it just that a kid? kid is just going to be a kid and they're not going to even listen even if someone tried so there is that like double-edged sword that's just kind of like there is somewhat of a responsibility but at the

end of the day like we're all responsible for ourselves yeah and and i think though truthfully i think we've gotten to a point where because like listen we're not going to control like you said who the fuck post what on the internet right but some kids parents should be like yo maybe you shouldn't watch that or maybe you should understand that if you're going to watch that also get that teach them that this is actually not a good thing for you or for most people, right? But everyone, you're right, we've gotten to this point where it's like, let's blame everyone else but ourselves for our fucking problems. And that's that.

So I don't have problems because it's that person's problem and it's that person's fault. Yeah, it's just kind of like, do go fuck yourself. Yeah. And but honestly, like, yeah, they'll learn, dude. It's cool. Like, you might, it's honestly better that you learn at 17 years old that gambling is what you'll lose your money all immediately when you only have. $300 to your name. It's no problem. Like 17, learn your lesson. So almost like you're doing

them a favor. Exactly, bro. It's like, whoa, that's crazy. No, but seriously, I've thought about this before. It's like, I made a shit ton of mistakes when I was a kid and I'm better for it. Like at a certain point, my parents can't teach me everything. I'm going to have to shoot myself in the foot a bunch of times until I finally, it's finally in my head and that's how every kid is. You have to, it takes a lot to like really be like, oh, that's not good. I can't do that anymore. And if you get seriously fucked up in the process, like, unfortunate for sure, but that's life. That's the game we're playing. Yeah.

Why do you think we've gotten to a point from your perspective? Because you're young, you know, certain generation. Why do you think we've gone to a point where everyone makes everything someone else's fault? It's not always been like that? No, dude. It's so much more like that now because of the fuck. I think it's because of the fucking internet. There's just more, there's like, there's more people to blame other than yourself.

like no one wants to take fucking responsibility now for sure more than ever really i didn't know that bro because my whole whole adult life of being on the internet it's always been i'm the victim i'm the victim it's not my fault though like somebody else is fucking me and i i always thought that was just how it is but that's why i thought it was because i never had that mentality and that's why like life is almost so sorry to interrupt you but why do you think then because most people who grow up in that and that's all they know they just adopt that why do you think you didn't adopt that mentality that's a good question i i'm i would like to say just positive role models in my high school life i had i played sports and like they drilled

it in your head like work hard for your own shit and even the content that i consumed when i was a kid like or even not necessarily a kid like 18 19 years old like people like Andrew tate even though he gets a horrible rap some of the things he said like really positively affected my life and one of those being take accountability for everything you do jordan b peterson was another big one that i've always watched so it's a combination of being lucky with the content that i found entertaining that being like jordan b peterson um and having positive role models in my life where that's all it took for me to be ahead of 99, not 99, ahead of 80% of people, my age, was to have the mentality that like, I'm responsible for everything I'm doing and everything in my life is on me.

Like, it's on you. That mentality alone put me ahead and will put you ahead or anybody my age ahead of 80% of people, just that one thing. Even if you're a fucking idiot, I actually took an IQ test recently. And my IQ is, I'm statistically an idiot. like I have a below average IQ, but I make more money than 99.9% of people my age just because of like the simple things like that that take no intelligence. It's just a mentality and it will set you ahead of everybody. Yeah. Just taking fucking responsibility. Yeah. Something as easy as that.

And it's not even hard. Like you just, I don't know. And I guess I'm just like blessed and lucky to have been led to this path. Yeah, for sure. That's dope, man. Because yeah, most people, it's just like, like this is happening to me because of that and this person has that and I don't have this so they're a problem and I don't have to learn anything. Yeah, it's weird. It's funny how you don't even have that perspective because like you're just in it.

I thought that's how it was. I thought that's how it's always been. But you think it's because of the internet. Because what exactly about the internet? So nowadays it's, you know, you can hop on the phone. Like you talked about not even going on the phone and not even watching content

so you could just be yourself in your content and not regurgitate someone else's. but I think that same concept just for people watching like everything they see is like someone's in most cases highlight reel so they're the idea of this is what life could be like and they look at like a 22 year old

and they're 22 and they don't have what you have but you have what you have and they go man fuck this guy has this and then they look at their life and they go they compare it and they go I don't have this I don't have these opportunities I can't even gamble like that fuck this kid whatever it is and they're relating their life

to everyone else's life and again that that's that's taking out their responsibility because then they go well i don't have these things now some people will go oh okay i want to get these things how do i get them not just by hating on someone's video on the internet okay let me try to figure this out like you talked about making content picking apart pieces that you like from people and then putting yourself in it i think what happens most people because there's so many people doing this and watching this that it's just like people see stuff that they want and they focus more on why they don't have it and the fact that someone else has it other than rather, excuse me, rather than trying to

figure out how they can get it. So that's what I'm saying. The internet just gives so much more relationship like, oh, he's 22 or I'm 16, he's 16, he has this. Like you create these relationships and then go, man, well, fuck, I don't have this shit. And then they just create all these excuses so that they can maintain that mentality of like, well, man, my life's like this. Because it's easier than going like, okay, well, how do I figure this out?

Okay, yeah, that makes sense. That makes a lot of sense, actually. And to that point, it's like a lot of people see somebody like me and I'm doing better than them, but yet their IQ is higher than mine. So a lot of people credit a lot of things, I think to luck. And I think way too much luck. I don't even think luck is real. But a lot of people, I think, because of them seeing people on the internet that are no

better than them, but they're doing so much better. Yeah. There's a disconnect. Like, well, how? That has to be luck. like that's the only explanation like there's no way that they have that and i don't because i you know yeah the same as them but look what you did it's like that i mean you're you're a great example if you talk about low IQ you're clearly not an idiot though because you were able to see

i mean maybe all the x and the gambling like kind of stupid like you're not an idiot bro like you're able to see like what was successful and go oh i could adopt myself into this and i could try this and put myself like in it in my own way like that takes a lot to figure out most people just go fuck that guy he has something i don't have that's what most people do well okay i guess and also fucking IQ test bro fuck that IQ test but um it's not like i'm like act like retarded yeah i have enough brain cells to like put a to be together like i can make shit you know yeah yeah exactly well enough yeah so okay um As far as like, I guess your life right now, you have your mom and you have your dad, you have like a full family.

Yeah. What do they think about what you're doing? What do they think about the gambling? Oh, they hate the gambling. They, well, especially after I lost my life savings, like, I called them and I was like not like doing super well. And I was like, this is pretty fucked. And they were like, get it the fuck together. Like, what the fuck are you doing?

Stop gambling. but now they know that I have a strategic plan in which I'm making money from it. So they're happy with the gambling. The drug use they don't love. Well, they hate. They are consistently, we have a really good relationship. So they're, like, jabbing at me. Like, my mom, like, we'll be eating dinner.

And she's like, wow, like that testosterone is making your face so fat. Like, kind of shit like that, like a nice, like. So we have a good relationship in that manner. but they would like me to stop using drugs, like, as soon as possible. But a lot of it they don't see because my mom saw, like, a couple of videos of me, like, talking about, like, how I do cocaine and, like, take steroids. And she, like, she's just, like, I didn't need to see that. Like, I don't even want to know, like, at a certain point.

So she actually asked me, like, should I watch this video? And then, like, depending on, like, what I say in the video, I'm like, yeah, you can, like, you'll be fine watching that. And then the other stuff, like, yeah, maybe you don't. Why cocaine? Why you take cocaine? Oh, my God. Cocaine is great. I, bro. I took cocaine once. I hated it. Only one time. You didn't like you. Were you sober when you did it? Like you were, were you drinking? I had like, I had a few drinks. I just didn't like it. Do you like any stimulants? Yeah, caffeine. Well, like real stimulants. Like Adderall. Like Adderall. I took Adderall once, and this was when I was a trainer and I was selling training. And I, I kind of liked it, but it felt like it was just too intense. And that's probably why.

I think I get, I think I'm really sensitive to things. So when I, you know, when I did that, I think it's too much for me. My body's like, well. Does caffeine, like, do a lot for you? Like, you drink your energy drink and you're really like, it, it used to a lot more than now, I think because I got so used to them. But if I take time off and come back, yeah, it does a lot. But, but I'm just, the cocaine was just like really intense.

And I was like, whoa, this is too much. I've always been one like fully ever since as a freshman in high school, like fully addicted devices. So, like, I've always needed something. And I used to smoke weed a lot. Like, that was my go-to. Um, and I didn't really realize the negative impact it was having on me and like my mental health. Like, weed will like seriously make you just porn gay. Like, period. Like, smoking weed is the worst drug you can put in your body. And I will, I've, I've said this many times. Like that I, I should, I should put on a t-shirt. Like, weed will make you porn gay. That once I realized that weed makes you so fucking stupid. And, and I will, I will, I will, I've, I've said this.

And like so lazy, I cut it out entirely, but then I was sober. And I was like, this is also super gay. So I need something. And so I started doing cocaine. And oh my God, ever since then, my life is when, like, obviously my heart is taking, it's taking the toll. Like, I know what's going on. And I try, like, my best, like, I take whatever.

When I'm doing drugs, I take beta blockers, like, Nabival all that good stuff. I do my best to, like, stay healthy and I'm doing it. but it's just like you're able to perform at a high level still while using adderall cocaine that kind of stuff whereas any other drug on the planet it reduces your any every vice except for like the like kind of like not real vices like caffeine nicotine that's not real drugs like that's not going to do it for me like every drug like you take Xanax alcohol I can't eat I could go like whatever heroin whatever people like to do will not help you be more productive and achieve what I want to achieve. Like I have to

work. I'm busy. Nothing that works except for cocaine or I don't know. That's insane. That's an insane plug. It's just like I like I can't argue because I don't fully understand it. I do get it. Obviously you take cocaine. You're like up. I get it. Like wired. But you know, I feel like you don't see interest in trying to achieve that naturally you don't think you can no i feel i actually feel really great sober too like i am the type of person where it's like i wish i couldn't sleep i just love being awake and doing shit so much i've always been like go go but then you had cocaine on top of that and it's like if you're it's like in the gym it's the idea if you're pump like you get a pump it feels good but what if your pump could get a pump that's what cocaine is for me so then i you know takes

stimulants and now it's like I'm not even a human anymore I'm on another level that nobody could compete with I can now work like I'll work for three days straight just editing videos like I edit all my own shit like my last video was two hours long it was like I don't know like over 10,000 edits and I just stayed up for like a week straight which is not good for you by any means but the fact that I can do that nobody else no matter how jazzed you are about life no matter like whatever I've seen you did a podcast recently with Andy Elliott like he's jazzed on life he could not stay up for a week and edit a video straight there's no shot it's like I can't argue with it it's so that's why it's so funny to me but it's like I guess it's it's a you got

you can't do it forever so I guess at this point it's like hey do it while you can and then get out yeah that's like I know that it's not a habit in And I, I'm, the worst case is, like, become fully addicted to, like, hard drugs. So I'm very conscious of, like, what I'm doing. So I try my best to like, like, like, don't start taking meth. I'm not going to, well, I want to try it once. Bro, you got to try it. How are you not curious?

You take all these steroids. Like, I'm sure you've taken, like, I like, I like psychedelics, though. Oh, those are the worst. Dude, in my opinion, how do you not like psychedelics? Psychedelics are for, for children. When I was in high school, it was so euphoric doing acid and shrooms and all that good stuff. But as I get older, like, I don't want to alter my reality so at all. Like, I want my reality to still be, this is what I see.

This is what it is. And I'm here. I'm present. Whereas I take psychedelics and I'm, like, losing my mind. And I start to go crazy. And I think maybe I had like some, like in high school, I really did a lot of psychedelics. and it was like really negatively impacting. Like I was starting to go like crazy, like a crazy person.

So it kind of left a sour taste in my mouth. I get it. That's how I feel about almonds. About what? Ammons. Almins. Yeah, I ate a lot of almonds when I used to diet. The nut.

And yeah, the nuts. And I don't like to eat it. You can eat them? Yeah, it's the same. So yeah, it's probably the same. So you do psychedelics. I love psychedelics. I don't do them all the time.

Mushrooms, yeah. I've done ayahuasca. as well i heard ayahuasca is decently unpleasant yeah yeah it was but it was yeah yeah oh it was in moments there was a moment where i was like please let this stop i mean it literally felt like you know you know like a decent mushroom hobby you're like oh this is chill this is okay like things are kind of wavy i feel good i had that for a moment

i'll never forget it i had it for a moment and then like almost as if i blinked my eyes and i was like from here to like here yeah and i was like oh this is bad this has to stop man this is that's another problem with psychedelics is it gets it can get out of hand so fast and it's like a miserable experience you're like this needs to stop this needs to stop for sure so the point though i think in doing that is like you're trying you're you're learning like the whole point of psychedelics is to like break through sort of mental barriers or things that you've you've kind of created because the whole thing that's happening is it's like creating new pathways in your brain so that you could think in a different direction can normally like like

the you know cocaine and all these things is not going to do that. It's going to make you be like, boom, I'm here, like here, more here right now. But that, I think, is for people who are, like, trying to learn or get out of a certain mindset. And obviously, if you're in the mindset you want to be in, then maybe psychedelics aren't the thing for you. Yeah. Maybe it's just a ton of cocaine. But I guess it is, that's how I feel is, like, I feel so, like, I think so clearly, so sharp. Everything is so, like, perfect with my mindset that I'm almost scared to alter it.

I get it. But also, maybe that's naive that, like, maybe I need something. like that I don't even know. I've heard a lot of people say they take shrooms and they've learned things and their perspectives on things have changed and they didn't even know that they needed it. Like what's his name?

I saw Bryce Hall said like he switched up from being like a TikTok like doing all that weird shit on TikTok to like changing his brand because he did took mushrooms and he didn't even know that's what he needed in his life to be changed. And now he's like a whole new man and he's super happy.

So maybe I need it. I don't know. But I don't know. I just, I can't. Do you do other psychedelics, like, just rooms in ayahuasca? Yeah, I did. I tried acid when I was younger, but I didn't like that too much. It was a little too intense.

I'm super lightweight when it comes to drugs. Except for steroids. No, even steroids. Yeah, you're like a super hyper responder. Yeah, I was so like, and I was always, like, afraid to do more. Like the cycles you described, I've never ever done that in my life. Never. Yeah, well, to be fair, a lot of people would not even consider, I would have imagined

you've done it just based of like the physique you've built but I guess it's like the time is more important than the time and also just like I just I also did naturally just like respond so crazy okay which I'm grateful for you know I can't say anything other than that man but yeah I just was always very hesitant to do more I was always like uh almost almost I would get to this point where I'd be like if I do more like I'm gonna have like a fucking panic attack okay yeah like so maybe my responses like physically were really great but uh at some point mentally would kind of like throw me the fuck off how often do you do psychedelics i don't i i i would microdose intermittently and i i haven't done like an actual trip in a while

and i did i would say that i did the iawaska stuff about a about a year ago now okay cool i've done it three times um so a couple times in within the last two years um but yeah but like uh i think i'm due for like a like a nice trip yeah for shy ayahuasca or mushrooms yeah And you, when you do it, do you, like, are you tripping balls, like, or like, am I, like, a gram or like, yeah, like four grams. Okay, so you're tripping balls. But I try to do it like, I don't just kind of like, I'm not just taking mushrooms and like chilling. I'm like trying to like do it with intention, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, what is that?

Like, what do you? So, like, I'm trying to do it in a way where I'm intentionally taking them and thinking, okay, what do I want to, what do I want to figure out? Like I put that in my mind before I go into the mushroom. yeah instead of just like taking them like I'm not just taking them and going to like a fucking rave or something you know okay and you do them alone yes yeah yeah I think that's the best way to do it if you're trying to grow from it like do it because like psychedelics is low key kind of like mushrooms for your brain excuse me excuse me steroids for your brain yeah that's what a lot of people that everyone that preaches mushrooms like really say it has massive benefits

for your mentality in your brain but like and even though even in the micro Micro dosing stages. It's like you don't even need to be like in this crazy trip to get a benefit from it. Some people describe it as better than cocaine as like when a microdose like you take a little bit and you're like really jazz, really euphoric, really outgoing. I've never experienced that mushrooms I've done at least 10 times and every time. Like a large amount though. The most I've taken was three and a half grams and I was tripping way harder than I needed to be. Like like division like it couldn't see shit. Had you ever tried a microdose? I've, I think where you don't, technically, you don't really feel anything.

That's the, that's like the sweet spot. I think I thought I was microdosing. Like I did like one time. And I was like, yeah, I'll take a microdose. And I think I did like almost like a gram, which is a little bit more than like it is. It is. So I've never actually microdosed.

Maybe I'll try that. Probably not though. But I don't see myself ever doing them. Yeah. I mean, you're, you seem to be in a good spot for what's happening your life right now. Maybe just leave it, you know. Yeah, maybe if. I think you got to be called to it.

Like, this is something I, okay, I want to switch this up or I want to alter my perspective a little bit, you know? Yeah, I feel like if I'm like forcing myself into it, I'm not going to get anything out of it. And I'm like, I'm just going to like watch cartoons and like, or like freak myself out. I don't know. Yeah, you probably freak yourself out of watching cartoons. I couldn't do that, bro.

No, dude, I used to love that. You probably take much to go stare at the mirror. Yeah, exactly. Shit like that. Oh, dude, then you look like a lizard. Like, I can't even look at myself in here. It's not the best anymore, but when I used to do it. Like, I used to love that shit, yeah.

What got you into steroids to begin with? Bro, I've talked about this before, and people are surprised. Like, Lex Little, Alex Eubanks, like the natties, bro. David Laid. Well, I don't know if he's natty. But all the people that, like, coming up, I'm 18 years old, and I see these people. And it's like, okay, this is my dream physique. Lex Little.

I want to look like Lex Little. He's been working out for eight years. And I'm sitting there, like, 19, 20 years old. like fuck I'm gonna look like that when I'm 27 like fuck that that sounds like I cannot wait that long so it wasn't the people that blasted gear it was the natties that I wanted to look like but I didn't have eight years so I saw them and pretty much like I only worked out for like a year and I was like you know fuck this like I'm taking steroids fuck that's like kind of hilarious like so not like I don't think that's a good idea in most cases no it worked out for you for me

luckily it worked out but I also like I got a coach and I did it in a way where I was like we're gonna just like dabble and we'll see if this is for me and after like a month I realized like I responded really well to them like I wasn't getting horrible like physical side effects other than my blood pressure and of course this was I was taking like 300 tests like oh yeah just like oh you did actually normal shit like normal shit like and then like maybe a little antivar at the end of the cycle and i responded really really well so i was like now i can kind of like test it a little bit more i didn't i didn't expect that from you i thought you would have 100% that's like the most responsible thing we've talked about that's fucking dope dude well i do

think yeah like everyone should have a coach when they're doing steroids because it's really like you'll really ruin your life without even knowing it like even when And because the closest I've been to losing my mind is when my hormones are messed up from steroids. And if I didn't have a coach that I could text, like, freaking out, like, what the fuck is going on? Like, why can't I think, right? And it's like, oh, your estrogen's too low or whatever it might be. Yeah. That is like something I've always really preached and always was scared of when I first started taking steroids.

It's like, okay, if I'm going to do it, like at least, at the very least, I know it's not smart to take steroids. year into the gym at the very least let's not die be stupid about it yeah um so that's yeah overall steroids have been a very very positive experience for me despite you know now i don't like necessarily have the physique to like back up taking the steroids that i take and i have to get like surgery on my tits or whatever but it's done a lot for my life and a lot for the mental side of things bro like yeah i didn't have low testosterone but i had like i don't know the difference between having 300 nanograms per deciliter and 5,000, like when you're 5,000, you nothing can stop you. So it's just done a lot for my, like, and even just as something as

small as like your confidence, like having high testosterone, you're productive, you're confident. Productive, confident. That's all you need to be ahead of 90% of people. And so just testosterone. That's all it took. Yeah, it's actually interesting. That's the, I would say as far as steroids going my experience too is like that's the one thing that you know people don't really always necessarily think about or talk about because they think just physically right what's going to happen to them or like sport wise whatever they're going to be able to gain from it um but the mental aptitude is just like increased to a different level oh never forget that i mean that was that was the thing that i remember being it being uh when i first was starting i was like whoa you could feel like

this and i hate to say that because like it sounds like i'm promoting it yeah but it's just just genuinely like that's I remember thinking exactly like exactly what you just said I was like holy shit it's just different but at the same time it's like it's just also if you're going to make those choices and those decisions you have to be smart about it get your blood work done make sure you're doing the right things and like look where you're getting your information from and be sure that it's something you really want to dabbling because it does affect the rest of your life you know like it can really affect the rest of your life and for some people can really adversely affect them pretty quickly. So just that little note for people out there. I'm not

saying go ahead and just fucking take it. But that's the one thing to steroids that I think most people don't really, they don't even think about is the mental. Would you take steroids if they didn't make you more jacked, just the mental sides? That's a good question. Holy shit. I've never thought about that. I would. No doubt. Yeah. I think if I, if I only got that from it. But no, no, you also like the negative shit too. Okay. negative everything steroids bring except for the muscles doesn't make them bigger that's a that's a fucking dope question uh yeah i think i would yeah yeah because i like i like the i just like that feeling and it's the same thing you're talking about obviously cocaine is different

you get it in more of like an acute manner but it's the same concept of like oh i could i'm i'm fucking doing this shit like i'm not like nothing like that i mean that's that's testosterone i mean that's men are men, right? They have this, okay, I'm going to conquer. I'm going to get, I'm going to achieve. It's that, it's that, that mentality is like from testosterone. Yeah. No, I think testosterone is the best drug on the planet. And, well, I mean, for me, other people might have a horrible experience with it. Like I said, like, as good as it can make you feel mentally, it can make you feel just as shitty. I like I, I like it. We're trying to be responsible about this. Yeah. It's like really nice. I've turned a new leaf as an influence.

Like from those videos to now, eight months, it's been a big change that I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you. Trying to at least give steroids like a fair review for what they can do because it used to just be like they're awesome and everyone should take them, which is viral for sure, but it's not the full story.

And now, but I guess it's easy for me to say now because now I'm where I want to be and like I'm on the right path. So I'm not like that. I'm not so hungry. I'm hungry, but it's not like the old me that was poor and wanted to make it on social media. I was like anything, anything, whatever it took, like that is what it took.

And I thought that was cool. I enjoyed making that stuff. But now I'm a whole new. And it's kind of to almost to a certain degree. It's kind of sad that that version of me is like gone. I don't know how to describe it. But it feels like it's like that part of me has like been gutted. out of me and now I'm here and like that version of me like how do I describe this I talked about

this recently it's like I don't know if you can relate to this at all but when you like achieve something that you've wanted to achieve in the process of doing that it's like the death of your old self and that version of you that was so hungry it was like work so hard towards this work so hard towards this he doesn't get like the closure because now like you're a new you now you're reaping the benefits of it does that make sense what I'm saying yeah I understand so it's It sounds like you're a little mushroom meat, a little mushroom talk. I like it. It's kind of a weird, like, it's talking about that I miss that kid that would like promote steroids. What part about it? Because it's the journey thing. It's that, it's the time in between.

Yeah. It's specifically the part that is like I miss is the romance to the struggle. Like every day you wake up and like in that time I wasn't necessarily. I don't think I was happy at all. I was upset with where I was, but it was like, I didn't like where I was, but I knew I needed to do this to get where I'm wanted to go and I would work so hard every day and I was so hungry for it. But now that I'm here, it feels like that exact version. It's like I'm living on two, this is really mushroomy. It's like I'm living on two different dimensions of my past self would daydream about my exact self so vividly. It was like, today a real person to him and now today I'm looking back at him and he's dead if that makes

sense you're also really accurately describing like how you got here you and you you you had intention in it the fact that you just said you then thought about you now exactly kind of how it is before you ever had it that is you believing like intentionally that this is going to be my life and that exact thing I spent my entire sort of childhood doing before any of this was even a fucking possibility before there was instagram all the shit i remember thinking i'm gonna have i wanted my life to be this way i remember writing about it all these ideas like i remember writing i literally have a picture of me i don't even know how old i was uh not a photo of me but a picture of something i wrote in a journal i must must have been like my early teens where i was like i'm

gonna have a house with a pool and like two pit bulls and when you see you know it's it's i'm literally living that life well it's so the law of attraction like the difference between daydreaming like oh that would be cool but thinking about something and it being real like when you were drawing that picture it you today that was real like you that existed somewhere yeah out there and this version you've attracted it and the law of attraction a lot of people think it's like fugazi fugazi but it's the number one attribute that I like I attribute all of my success to the law of attraction just like making that real it's so real in your head and a lot of people just can't really picture and like envision what they want like it's an actual

thing it's more of like a just a daydream yeah like oh this would be great and then that's it kind of it yeah like i remember i remember someone told me once like how you wanted to be like you know for example let's say you have a car that you really want sit in your car close your eyes, pretend what it will feel like, like imagine yourself in the car, what it will smell like, what it will feel like, how you will be reacting to it. Everything in relationship to like how you feel in a car now and the car that you want it to be, go in your car every day, sit in there and think about it and kind of make it real. Because I think what starts to happen is, well, I know what starts to happen is you start

to do things every day in your life that are getting you closer to actually achieving that. instead of it just being this like bullshit idea of like oh i really want that that would be great and then it just kind of passes and you continue on with wherever you're at currently in your life instead of going like wow i'm going to try to really think and bring this into my life and envision what it will feel like envision what it will be like because then it kind of makes you inspired naturally to be like okay well i want that and i know i want that and i tell myself i want that let me actually what can i do what steps so i need to take and then start actually taking them instead of just being like I want what he has fuck that guy yeah continuing on

i've actually never that makes a lot of sense that i've never thought about it that way that even like subconsciously you start taking action it's happening no matter what yeah well you yeah we're moving forward but it like i guess i've never thought like i've always just been like it's like witchcraft or something like i think it and it happens somehow but that makes sense that like that there's actually a method behind like what's going on here like subconscious And the crazy thing about it all is that, yes, subconsciously, it's happening whether you're aware of it or not. So also, too, if in your mind goes like, I suck, I'm going to lose this, I'm going to blah, blah, blah, that. And it's, and it's just, it's bearing down, it's being built inside your subconscious.

You're also going towards that. Yeah. So you have to catch yourself and be like, all right, let me shift my focus. Let me shift my thinking. That was one of the biggest things that mushroom had taught me, like really, really real and candidly. I'll never forget the time that I took a really big dose of mushrooms very early on. and I remember like freaking the fuck out and then I was like with my buddy my buddy brandon at the time good friend of mine still and uh I remember being like yo I like I'm stuck I feel like I'm in

this like this weird ass space and he's like oh here man uh let's get let's get a let's get a drink so into like a little quickie mart thing a little 7-11 whatever the fuck it was called like a gas station thing and he said uh here have this like Arizona iced tea I'll never forget it and he's like it's good like you'll like it and I remember drinking it and being like like, oh, this is good. And the second my brain thought of good, my whole entire energy shifted. I felt like open. I felt like, because it felt like I was being closed in on darkness and it was getting worse. And the second, I was like, oh, this is good. I felt like, oh, wow, this is fucking good. I feel good. And I'm not kidding. In that moment, I remember being like, but what if it was

bad? And then the second I said bad, I was like, oh, shit, I'm starting to feel really bad again, really terrible, really dark, and I realized, wow, is that what happens? Because a lot of stuff that can happen on these, on psychedelics, it's not as if like it's not happening in your regular life. You're just not aware of it. So the words that we use and the things that we tell ourselves are like little fucking spells. It's like, what do we want to tell ourselves? Where do we actually want to be? So if you're constantly saying, I fucking suck, you're going to feel like you suck. You're going to act like you suck and you're going to get more of the shitty shit that sucks in your life versus being like, oh, this is, this is good. Like your energy,

speaks to where you are in your life, 100%. From the second I saw you to like this whole podcast, like it makes sense why you have it. But it feels like I've almost been like blessed to a degree where I started off feeling like almost like my whole life started off just the structure I've been blessed to be in a positive feedback loop. Like what would you say to the people that like you feel like every day you wake up feeling like a loser?

Like how do you get around that? Because I've never had to face that specific. I definitely probably faced that because for me it was my like biggest turmoil I've talked about this before at times but my biggest turmoil was losing my father when I was young okay so when I was very young and I dealt

with the idea that like I wasn't good enough and not that I never directly thought my father killed himself because I wasn't good enough but I had that weird relationship to him where I was like why am I not good enough for you to stick around for and it tormented me and so you know I found the gym and like that was the thing that I remember

once I was in there and like I was lifting I was like okay I'm not thinking about it because my brain was constantly non-stop still to this day it's just always on and so when I was in the gym I was like oh I'm doing this bench press and I noticed that okay that thought kind of disappeared a little bit okay so basically to answer that question is you're you're never going to be able to just go like hey just stop thinking like this that's like that's never going to happen but you can put yourself in situations that I don't want to say distract you but take you out of your out of like where that negative thought is and try to put yourself into something that's just more constructive and for me I just found that it was the gym the gym allowed me to like all this shit kind of fade

away and that thought didn't continue to bounce around on my head because I had to focus on what I was doing okay so so the answer is like you have to just continue to bring yourself to the moment where you are and not like not the thought of like oh I want to be there right granted you want to create this picture that you want to live in you want to create this life in your idea so you can like try to think okay this can be beautiful if I'm there but you also have to have that and not get caught up in that because then you you keep that same like disparity of like but I don't have it and then also too a lot of people do is they think about where they're at and they just hold themselves to there which is essentially the past so then

you're never like right here and in the moment is the only way that you can actually go to that that spot we were talking where you are or where I am or where someone wants to be where they're like oh this is like making me happy so the key is when you're in those thoughts stopping those thoughts and being like all right but where do I want to be because like we all have that inner dialogue that is like ah suck I ain't good I should have said this what if I said that she wouldn't have done this or I could have been here you know if I didn't make this you like we all have that it's just being like shut that the fuck up and go okay if you have to just focus on your breath in the moment where do I want to be

How do I want to feel? I want to feel good. What do I need to do to feel good? Like it sounds corny and cheesy, but truly that's the only way to like start building towards and have that foundation to get to where you really want to be. And for you going to the gym is like how you unlocked that. Yeah, because for me going to the gym was like, because prior to that, it was just like nonstop this thought of like, why don't I have this?

The victim shit. Why don't I have like, why is my dad not here when I'm graduating high school? and I see all these other kids and their dad is there. Why is my dad not here when I go over to my friend's house and he treats his son this way and I see this and, you know, that's my friend. And well, how come I don't have that at home? And how come I don't have this? Everything was like, why don't I have this?

Why am I not good enough to have this? And then I found the gym and then I found people like other male figures in the gym that were like, yo, you can do this. You like kind of helping me. Yeah. And I was like, oh, this is, I want to spend more time here because when I'm here, I feel good. When I'm here, I can avoid that constantly.

bouncing thought of like not being good enough and i could just focus on this and then you get some i got some positive reinforcement so my my my community that i was in was also really important so to finding a community that like is actually helping you instead of like having the same friends who are like man my life sucks or bro that's too difficult don't try that i don't know man everyone does that whatever the fuck it is get that shit out of your life that's another major thing because the men and i found that community where like a friend was like yeah like oh you can do this you're good at this. You can get better. Oh, try this. And I'm like taking advice and I'm in that moment being like, oh, this feels good because I'm avoiding that. It was out of avoidance.

But then it became like, oh, I love this. And it's just my whole life is from it. So yeah, I mean, for everyone, it's not going to be the gym. But there's some community, whether you have to start that shit with yourself. And if you find people that don't align or they're not like, they're not understanding that same idea, that same mindset of like, yo, we can be better. We can be greater. like you don't want you don't have a community with friends who are like oh no bro that's a bad idea like that shit sucks or that shit's lame like you're not going to be able to do it like why would you do it like that's not something you want in your life yeah you know so so all those things it's just like again it's not always going to be the gym it's just fine what for you

is allowing you to create actual space for yourself right now for it to start to be what you want it to be yeah and then you like it seems like based off of what you've told me once you started going to the gym, that was almost like the first time that you saw that you could like almost like you could manipulate, manipulate your reality. Like, you go to the gym and you work out and now I have bigger muscles. Like I can do something and get good at it and make a change. So that seems like it would be a great place for somebody to start. Like he's find something that you can develop a skill and like absolutely. Realize like wow. Like if I, and it's never short, like all good things take time. That was a big thing, I guess like,

once you understand that all good things, like nothing good happens in less than three months. Like once you understand that idea, you can start embarking on more, because it's very discouraging at first when you do something for a week and nothing works out or nothing changes. But that's also life. Like you can't expect that. Like that's also that concept you just described goes back to what I said earlier about like this generation of social media. They think in just everything like postmates, all these things that we have now, Netflix, all these things. They're not bad, but they teach everyone that I could have exactly what I want right now. I could order what I want right now.

So I should have everything right now. Yeah. And so we're just, we're fucking the TikTok brain where it's like everything should be right now. They also apply that same because everything in their life is can be that way. If you know, if you obviously have the financial means that you then think your life should be this way right now. But it's like that's also just not fucking realistic by any means for fucking anyone. so it's just like getting yourself out of that mindset and understanding that it's going to be hard it's going to be difficult it's going to take time like that's how you get shit that lasts that's how

you get shit that is like actually fruitful and beneficial to your life but people just get so caught up and I want it now because he's got it remember I said oh he's 22 I'm 22 why the fuck don't I have it I should have it right now but it's like you didn't live the same life he did you didn't do the same things he did you didn't put yourself into something and you didn't look at a situation and go okay how could I be myself in this like you just didn't do that that's what he did that's what i did that's what someone else did right so we got to get away from the whole comparison bullshit and like the the internet age is just made that so much harder because like dude these phones are just like you're like sucked in you fucking

scroll for a little bit you're like oh what the fuck like you just get locked in you how many you see people out they're at fucking dinner and they're like bro what the fuck are people doing like that's not getting you shit unless like maybe on your phone you're like trading or you're doing something that's beneficial you just lock scrolling? Well, dude, it's even, people waste their energy so much on even, like, do you watch sports? I used to like sports a lot. I like, I don't get me wrong. I do watch sports. I do like watching sports, but it's not like I can't go by not watching sports, you know, like, because I get where you're going with it. It's like a lot of people, yeah,

they invest their time and their energy and like just other people. Like other people succeeding out of sport. Or like video games. It's just, like any fuck i love video games but you you have like you enjoy video games but your number one priority is this reality your life today or as a lot of people their number one priority is their fantasy football team how can i level up my Minecraft bullshit or whatever i don't really get it i don't play video games yeah um too much but so many people are so obsessed with every video game that is not this one and i look at like this life as a video game and like i'm playing this one and this one's fun and this one is actually like nothing is more amazing than being able to like buy your

mother or something like a vacation with your mom whereas an achievement in a fake video game is so fucking like maybe it's a short hit of dopamine but like nothing compares to real life video game except for plinko well okay plinkgo bro you have to give it a try bro seriously plinko have you ever hit a thousand x on plinko no no yeah that's a problem you got to try I've won on Plinko, but I've also just lost every time. Yeah, okay. Well, it's like it can. I get it.

I get it because I watch Steve do it crazy. I watch Steve win a lot of money on Plinko. So not me personally. I watched him do it. So I get it. But I don't know. I just, I would rather play like fucking sweet bananas.

I was going to be I'd rather play sweet. And it's also just different flavors of dopamine. Like if you don't appreciate the ball like bouncing around, you're never going to like it. Like for me, watching that ball is like, yeah, okay, okay. I get it's so exciting but I get it like if that doesn't tickle your brain it's I can't force it to tickle your brain like you just the the slots or blackjack is going to be better did you ever play uh what's that bomb game oh mine's a that shit makes my blood pressure so fucking I can't stand my bro it's a trauma tight in that

noise of the bum yeah fucking I cannot play that I did that for a little bit remember me and see we go to Cancun and gamble all the time. That was fucking so much fun. Bro, that was like the sweat on that game. You just increase it. You increase the amount. I love that. The feeling of when you like clear the board, like where you get all of it except for the last one, it's just like, yeah. So dude, yeah, gambling is the is my favorite vice by far like number one peak entertainment. People ask like, because I gamble for work and somebody in another podcast is like, what do you do for fun when you're not streaming, not working. I'm gambling. Like, to be honest, I, if I have free time, like, I'm going to spend

a gambling. What's your amount that you'll gamble, like, comfortably, like, with your free time? So it's way lighter in my free time. Like, when I'm on stream, I'll buy in, like, 20,000 because it's, like, better for views. And I go really hard, like, do a bunch of drugs. But if I'm just, like, sober and I just want to gamble with my friends, like, casually, like, I'm happy to, like, just lose, like, one to three thousand bucks. in a night just like casually and then because like if I lose 20,000 while I'm streaming and I feel like okay I got content that was good I'm happy with that but if I lose $20,000 and I'm just sitting at my desk not nothing out of it it's like like come on dude like so I'm happy

with just like and I like the idea of like trying to turn $1,000 into like 100,000 like the really big wins I think that's why I don't love blackjack because blackjack is like slower like double your money or lose like you know what i mean it can get sweaty i've seen people gamble a lot of big big both it's it's like whatever special tables but people doing like 30 000 hand well yeah to be fair i've never done high stakes blackjack like i've never been we should go to we should go to we should go to red rock with steve bro i've see i see the videos everyone in the private rooms at red rock i've never done that it's on it's on my bucket list like big time is private room at red rock because that then that would that's the blackjack experience

Maybe that I've been missing is like putting down $10,000 on a blackjack hand, but it's so stressful, bro. Like it happens so fast like there's no remorse too. They just go like yeah. Dude, they don't give a fuck and I do the dealers. Oh my God. It's sometimes it almost feels like they're like yeah, that's mine like thank you. They like like it gives them a little boner. You got to do that.

You'll love that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like watch. Steve is just a fucking mad man. He's mad. You just tell them I want to gamble like this much of hand and they give you a private room.

Like I don't, do I need to know somebody to get a private room? Yeah, normally it's that. Okay. Like if we pulled up, it'd be all good. Steve, Steve could hook you up too. I mean, you can get linked up with like Hassan or something like that. One of the hosts, they'll let you do it back there. Let's run it.

I would love that. That would be fucking fun. We should do it. I would. Maybe we'll get Stiney to go to. I'm doing a Steinie's podcast tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm curious to see how that goes. I'm doing it with Sarah. Oh, okay. Because he told me we were supposed to do it, but I think because we did you, because I did you now, he was like, oh, fuck. Yeah, well, he asked me if I wanted to have you on the next day or like some random person. I was like, I guess talking to Brad two days in a row, like, it could get like kind of repetitive. Yeah, it's all good.

It's not. Obviously not. Like, yeah, my feelings are super hurts. It's okay. I told him, though. I was, I told him it was like, we got to, he kept, bro, he kept blowing up phone. He's like, I want to do raw talk first. So I was like, Brad's first, then will run Sineate.

Well, also, like, I don't know. Like, Stiney's cool, but like, I've, like, watched your shit forever. Like, always been a fan and shit. And, like, Stiney, like, kind of just, like, popped up. I'm sure he's great, but, you know, I'm not, like, a fan of Stiney. I get you, I get. I appreciate that, for sure. Who else?

Who else are you a really big fan of? It's a pretty limited to list. I guess, like, people that are where I want to be now, because now I have surpassed a lot of, like, my old idols that, like, I used to watch. so like Steve is a big one I want to be where Steve is like I said I don't consume content like crazy Jordan B Peterson just because he's what he does for my mentality yeah

but there's not the list is short just because I don't consume content yeah I want to read more books though but like bro I fucking so boring it's so hard to read a fucking book maybe yeah I get you maybe try audio books you ever thought of that yeah I do That's what I normally do. I've found that's the only way I can digest a book. I love David Gagins.

Oh, yeah. Both of his books. Yeah. Oh, my God. Have you read his books? Yeah, no, I haven't read him, but I listen to him. Yeah, I, well, yeah, I guess I listen to him too. I don't actually read them.

But David Gagins is like, I can't believe I forgot. He's probably number one. Like, I would love to interview David Guggins, bro. That would be, that podcast would be, meeting. Meeting David Gagins would be something because he's, he's like not human. He's another level of. Yeah, that guy's a machine. dude insane like actual machine i think so yeah he's number one for me his books really did a lot

for my life what are you gonna what are you gonna train today where at uh i was gonna do back i don't know where do you recommend you wait your gym's here right yeah let's go let's go train yeah i want to train yeah you want to hit back i'm down i right i need to train i actually need to train not now but um i fucking i've been slacking dude how often like what's slacking you bro because like I've gone like like I haven't worked out like a month really like yesterday was my first day like realistically yeah like a month and it's really oh so you you have been slacking doing what bro what do you do actually I I haven't asked like I don't what do these days like you do your podcasts yeah what else I like to just fucking I don't even it sounds crazy

but like just be alone dude I like to go to the beach with my dogs and like just fucking relax oh you're on your like old man the old man shit like it's not like you're in a No, yeah, yeah, because I've just, I, I spend so much time around people that, like, when I have my free time, like, I kind of just want to, like, fucking chill out. You are old as shit. That's crazy, bro. Like, yeah, I'm just saying. Like, to me, that's like, yeah, you're a grown ass dude. That's crazy. That's insane. The age gap is wild there. But, yeah, I mean. I guess another question I have. Do you, do you ever think that you'd put, like, your girl or, like, do you show that kind of stuff online or is that something you, like, just avoid?

No, I don't really like I bring girls on stream and stuff and like it's good for content. It's funny. It's fun to like it's like I don't like to be the guy that's like makes fun of girls on stream and stuff. But like it's I think it's hilarious and it's like good content and I try and be like as respectful as I can. But I do a lot like I don't you talk about my personal life too much. But like there's girls on my stream frequently and like in my videos and that's kind of like the extent that I. talk about yeah i get it i respect that because it's like that's like a whole thing man like some people's whole content is like they got a girl yeah no you know and also some people's whole

content is like shitting on girls which is like what's his name that myron guy he's got like a podcast yeah fresh and it just like brings on girls and like stupid whore only fans dumps like it's like i like i guess it's like kind of funny but like and i'm glad i didn't fall it because when i used to watch like Andrew Tate, Zirka, Myron, it was infecting my mind. It was like, oh, I should like have a hundred wives and cheat on my girl. Like I have to cheat on my girlfriend. And I've made a few jokes about it like, oh, you got to cheat on your girlfriend, yada, yada. But like, when I used to watch them, it was really infecting my minds like about like how you're supposed to approach relationships and females in on this planet. So that, that kind of content

is I think horrible for young men consuming that because it's easy it's very easy I don't know if it's like feeding off of the insecurities of younger men but like it's easy to feel like yeah I'm the guy girls are dirt stupid like just objects um but that kind of content yeah I would I mean there's definitely there's definitely like I see what you're saying I see what you're saying there's definitely some positive to it but yeah I mean if it's if it's so detrimental that it's just like making you think that women are terrible it's like then how do you how are you ever going to find a woman that you don't think is terrible if you're constantly thinking all women are terrible yeah you never will you if you go through life thinking all women are how they're

depicted on because they also bring on like like actually like not great women that like talk a lot about like oh like I've fucked 150 dudes and like I don't know like all all this crazy shit that you see and it kind of like plants a seed like oh women are evil but I I mean, there are some, and so there's some evil men out there. Like, it's not like a gender-specific thing that they make it out to seem as, yeah, a two-sided coin for sure. Yeah. So you're going to do Adderall with Steinie when you do his pot or what?

Does Steinie rip stimulants a lot? Oh, man. How do you think he's like, oh, he's always on? Dude, I don't know. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I watched his podcast this morning for the first time to, like, do my homework and, like, see what was good with it. And I was impressed with, like, he gets a lot.

of like like big names on and stuff like the only clips i've seen a stony are of him just getting shit on on podcast and like the butt of the joke with so i never i didn't know that like he had his whole like i don't know his whole like he's doing great for himself like i'm really stoked and he he went to he grew up in boulder um same place as me so um i guess yeah i'll do fucking adderall with steiny that sounds like it would be great for the podcast i'll text him about it. Yeah, that would go crazy. It's a matter off for the podcast.

I think he's going to, I think he would probably not want to do it because I don't think he, he doesn't talk about it as much as, he actually might be pissed when he hears when he hears that. I might have to hit him and be like, yo, can I pose that? Oh, yeah. No, I'm super open about it. Yeah, yeah, no, I get it. But yeah, no, he, I think he stopped, but I just, I just, listen, Stani, I got to preface that.

I apologize. But I think, I think he stopped. I know he used to do it a lot. And, like, I think he stopped. So hopefully, there. we go. I love you, bro. I don't think he's still doing it. I don't know. You have to find out. We'll find out tomorrow. Find out next time. But I'm excited. But yeah, let's go fucking train. Let's do it. I appreciate you coming. For real. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Thank you for having me on.

This has been, it's been on the bucket list for a long time. Like this background, I've watched it a million times. I'm excited. So thank you so much. Of course, brother. Thank you so much for coming. You're awesome. I appreciate you.