RAWTALK - Interviewing A Gym Bro In Gaza

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

On this week’s episode of RAW TALK, Brad sits down with Mohammed from Gaza and talks about growing up through 9 wars, being displaced 13 times, training in the rubble of his bombed home, the reality of how getting food could cost you your life, the starvation crisis, and much more!Hope you enjoy, see you next Tuesday!SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

Okay, so how old are you? I'm 19 years old, man. I'm going to start my 20s in like months. So, yeah, I'm still young, bro. Yeah, right on. How long have you lived in Gaza? My entire life, basically. I've never left Gaza.

I've never, I wasn't born outside of Gaza. I've been born in Gaza and lived my whole life in Gaza. Damn. A lot going on right now, huh? Yeah, I mean, like too much going on. I can't fathom it myself. What made you start doing social media? So when I first started social media,

I just want you to imagine this, all right? So when I first started social media, it was like back in April, 2024. And back then, I was displaced from my house. The situation with food was getting more and more difficult, like, every day. And, like, just as I started making content, I got the news that my house was bombed.

It was mostly destroyed. And so I wanted to imagine that, despite all of this going on, I was still working out. Like, I was still, you know, heading my workouts every day, you know, training and having a split and tracking my exercises and sets and everything. So thinking that, despite all of this, I was committed and disciplined to my journey, even from my own perspective,

that was honestly inspirational. I found that really inspirational. And I just decided to, you know, start sharing the world. I decided to start making content, documenting my journey, and, you know, showing the world how it's like for someone like me who's trying to pursue his dreams to live in such conditions. And here we are, like a year and a half later, with everything documented so far. yeah i mean it's definitely not common for someone to uh have their house bombed when you know when they're first starting out uh very uncommon when the last time you talked to someone they told the house was bombed you know never yeah actually never like not not not not ever once in my life have i had that conversation so that's why this is a unique situation like i i i've seen

the content i seen what you're doing online i think it's fucking super creative uh giving your circumstance it's it's a little insane so congratulations on that um yeah i just i just want to know what first off like what was it like growing up in gaza honestly my life before this all started in gaza was just like any normal person's life despite like you know when it comes to leaving the country that was when it was mostly like a struggle um so like i was like i was born in 2005, you know, like in December 2005. And from that then, until now, I've lived like through, I would say, like, seven or eight wars, I believe. So I'm not 20 years old yet, and I've already lived through wars. So when I think about my life before this all started

in Gaza, there were like a little bit of, you know, struggles here and there. But in general, like I wasn't really struggling with anything from like of the basics you know when I think about you know having shelter having food having medicine you know hanging out with friends doing what I love there was no real challenges in it you know what I mean it was like you know I was before this all started like you know I'm talking a few months before it all started I was a university student I was going to the gym six days a week completely disciplined you know I was you know studying business admin in university as well as taking, you know, a few courses on the side. And so it was like any

other university student and Jim Rat life that you would expect to see. But with having that feeling of instability, like all of this could turn upside down like any second. That was, I would say, the feeling that we had before this all started. And even though it wasn't really affecting our lives and, you know, we were just going with life, we were pursuing what we love. But it's still there. And all of a sudden, you would actually wake up and find out that your fear has come true. You know, like everything did actually go upside down. Now it's a struggle for you to find shelter, secure food, to get water, and to basically have a normal life.

And how long has it been like that since when? Like talking like before the soul started or now? Well, because you said you've been in how many, how many sort of not you specifically yourself, but how many sort of wars have you been through throughout your entire life? Throughout my entire life, right, wait. Including this one, it's nine. Nine.

In this one, it's nine. Maybe, like, I don't need to include this one because, you know, like, this doesn't compare to any other wars that I lived before. But, yeah, I mean, if you want to count it as, like, a tough situation, that I'm living through, then, yeah, I would say no.

It's interesting because it's all you really know, right? I mean, yeah, like, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's just indescribable. What can I say? Now, how did you find, we'll get back into the Gaza stuff and the sort of conflict stuff in a bit, but how did you find love for the gym? Like, do you watch social media content creators?

Are you like, like, how did you get into being like, I want to be able to make content? Now, talking about my fitness journey, like to begin with, when I first started going to the gym, I started going to the gym in mid-2020. I was going to high school back then. And, you know, just like any other teenager, I had this, you know, kind of motivation because I want to, you know, get better. You know, like I want to be a better version of myself. So I was, you know, looking into business.

I was looking into crypto. I was looking into the gym and fitness and everything. And so one aspect of my life that I really wanted to. work on was, you know, my physical appearance, you know, my physique, my strength, and so on. So I started hitting the gym back then. Of course, like not knowing anything of what I was doing, just like any other, you know, new lifter. Yeah, of course. So the more I started going to the gym. Now, I'm a nerd. Like, you know, whoever follows me knows how nerd, how nerd I am, how much of a nerd I am. So I used to like learn new stuff about the gym every

day, you know, even before I started making content, I just wanted to make the most out of my journey. And so that's how I developed the love for fitness, you know, being more results with everything I learned, seeing, you know, being able to compare myself to people I see on social media, you know, like new lifters just like me, and finding that I am doing a good job with what I am doing. That was like a motivation for me. But yeah, like when it first started, I was, you know, having this feeling, like, a feeling from inside me that I wanted to better. And the more like I get, you know, inspiration from content creators on social media, the more I see people going to the gym and, you know, making new friends in the gym,

that was like an extra push in the way. Now, when when this all started and, you know, I had to stop like working out for the first, I would say, three or four months, you know, before I started making content, it was mostly about the mental side of it. Like I just wanted to have, you know, this feeling back again, like this feeling that I, you know, this feeling that I, I am still sticking to what I love. I'm still pursuing my fitness dream, as well as making gains and, you know, pursuing that fitness dream that I had in the beginning

of working on my fitness, you know, goals and my physical appearance and physique. So, yeah, this is the major part to it, as well as, you know, like a few things that happened along the way that motivated me too. Well, like a heartbreak or something? Everyone's got a heartbreak. No, it was not a heartbreak.

No heartbreak. Nothing yet, nothing yet. Yeah, I got a clear it. It was not a heartbreak. Okay. You have something a lot different motivating you. Okay, so it's so crazy, bro. So where did you start?

Where did you first live? And then how come you, like, where are you now compared to where you started? Okay. When I first started making content, I was in the city of Ropach. You know, the one in the very south. of the officer. And from there, believe it or not, from there, I was displaced eight times after I started making content. But if we are talking in total, I was displaced 13 times since this all started. So, you know, from house to house to house to renting an apartment to attend

to my relative's house. What was it like? So they're just like the, what the IDF just comes in, they're like, you guys got to leave and you just go, you just leave? Or is there like where to go? Is there like, are the specific, yeah. So for the first I would say eight months or maybe like seven months, it was basically like a matter of how intense the bombings are. So you know, like whenever we would feel that the area we are in right now is not safe to stay in, like there are bombs like left and right. That is when we decided to evacuate. So basically it's just for your life is that you don't know where you are going. You have no idea of the place we're going to. is safe or not, but it's just, you know, going out from a place that you know for a fact

is dangerous now. Now, after that, I would say, like, starting from, you know, evacuating from Rafa. So they didn't send, like, they didn't send, like, text, they didn't say, like, hey, we're going to, Amber Alert, it's going to be a bomb here, get out of here? Yeah, this is, this is the part that I'm coming, that I'm getting into. Now, like, after the Raffa evacuation, because, you know, like, when they, you know, when we had to evacuate from Raffa, and you have to move out from Rwaffe. There were too many people there. Like, you're talking, like, a million plus people in Rafa.

Yeah. So, you know, using this style of, you know, just bombs left and right and run for your life, just didn't work back then, you know, like, it just didn't make sense. So from that point and moving on, whenever there's an evacuation in the area, there would be, like, some social media posts on, like, you know, IDF pages. there would be flyers and you know like the papers that fall from the sky saying that this area is you know

dangerous and all and you know right after you would get this paper like you know a drone will start hovering you would start hearing bombs here and there so you would have like I don't know an hour or two hour to pack all of your stuff get a car or any kind of transportation or even go on foot and get whatever you can get

and just move out of the area and just go where just set up like a tent somewhere set up a tent somewhere maybe go to the go back to the ruins of your house or a relative's house that you still have standing somehow you know it's just that when it comes to living in Gaza evacuating is like a matter of going someplace safer it's not safe like there's no safe here it's just going to another place that's safer that there's like fewer bombings there you know that you know for a fact there's going to be maybe like a few shops open or maybe like some people who have grown some

plants that are going to be selling it so at least you would have some kind of normal life to go out you know sell buy some stuff and you know to just go on with like it's not only about safety it's just even if you are in a place that's safe but there is no one around you that's growing any you know plants and selling them no one is having any products from making anything you know that like wise let's say just just food like I'm not talking about hygiene products. I'm not talking about, you know, like furniture or anything. I'm just talking about food. Like you wouldn't be able to go somewhere where you know there's no food at all, even if it was safe. Like, okay, you're going to go there to do what. Yeah. So how does this? Yeah, like basically

just going to the nowhere. So over here, right, in the U.S., we're kind of watching all of this stuff that's happening back and forth, like what's happening with Hamas, what's happening, the soldiers, the IDF, all this kind of stuff. What is actually happening? What is actually happening? happening with the aid? Okay, so basically now, when it comes to the aid, we have three main sources for aid. The first one and the least safe one is the GHF, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation. That's where you, that is where everything you see on the videos, on social media happen, you know, of people being, you know, carried in flower bags into hospitals as big bodies,

you know, just trying to secure food, trying to get aid. So that's one source of aid. The second source is air drops. This just recently started happening. Air drops just recently started getting into Gaza. And I would say out of the three main sources, this is the one where we get the least amount of aid. Because I believe I saw this in like a statistic that was done.

Is that every three airplanes equals to one eight drop when it comes to how much aid they carry. I believe every two or three eight planes. And when you talk about like eight maybe or ten eight planes entering Gaza, that's like five or six trucks entering and that's not going to make much difference, you know. Now the third, you know, source and the one that we mainly rely on are eight trucks, you know, having the borders open, having, you know, the eight trucks entering and, you know, just having as much aid and products entering Gaza from the borders. That is where where the real difference happens. So you can see this for yourself.

The GHF, for example, has been open in Gaza for like, I don't know, maybe two months, three months now. And we still had, like, such high prices, you know, like one kilogram of sugar was like $100. So these, like, don't, you know, carry a... Wait, so they're still charging for the food that they're giving? Not the GHF. The people that get the food from the GHF

and bring it back to the save zone. So, you know, like, they would... risk their life to go get aid for themselves and then like whatever they have left for or like whatever extra stuff they got. So when you say risk their life, you mean the people that go there to get the aid, they're risking their life to get the aid because people are shooting them as they get the aid? When I say risking life, yeah, I mean the shooting that happens. You know, like and this is like this is the way I want to think about it is that if the situation was safe around the GHF, more people. people would go there and then more aid and products are going to be brought back to the safe zone so whoever goes to the GHF then is gonna it's not gonna see that what

he has as much value you know for him to sell it for like a hundred dollars or $200 but when there's like a lot of you know like people getting killed every day people getting injured people leaving empty-handed from the GHF now whoever brought thing from the GHF is going to see it like extremely valuable you know like not everyone can go there and bring this so he would charge like you know insane prices you know i get it hundred dollars for things like one two dollars so who's who's killing the people at the aid i i guess we know who bro like uh is this actually a see like i don't think it's a secret man okay okay so so so that's why the prices or like they're whoever's bringing the aid

they get the aid and then they bring it to the other people who are you know trying to survive essentially is what it sounds like and then they're like hey bartering or they're paying you know for stuff yeah I mean you know the system that the aid is entering does right now yeah is what I like to call die or buy so you know you either go to the where the aid is because there are no aid distributing centers right now all aid distributing centers are either in the same the danger zone or destroy it. So even like the a trucks that enter Gaza just enter to nowhere. Like they don't have a destination to go to. So for us civilians, we either have the choice to go to the a trucks, to where the a trucks are going to be stopped or whatever, or go to the GHF or go

to the air drops, risk being killed. Like even like when it comes to the airdrops, for example, I believe a 12-year-old kid was crushed by an air drop today. to death like he was crushed to death the airdrop fill on him and he was crushed to death so you either go to where the aid enters where where the aid is and you risk your life or you would you know prepare your cash prepare your money to pay for whoever brings the aid back to the safe zone so that's how it is other than that you're just going to die of hunger bro bro this is fucking insane i i'm i'm not trying to laugh like because it's not funny at all so i apologize i just don't even i don't even know how to react it's uh honestly bro like if it wasn't

so tragic it would have been funny i'm not gonna be right yeah it's oh man this is so it's such a weird it's i can't believe i'm having a conversation about this to be honest um because you know we hear that you know this is happening this we hear all these things over here in the states and it's just interesting to talk to someone who's actually there to hear it firsthand to know like the actual truth like someone who's living through it right because you know we're told so many different things from our government um we're reported on on how it's actually going down and it sounds like what you're saying makes makes a lot more sense um i guess that this whole thing with

we always hear this Hamas thing you know it's it's the reason why this is happening is because it's a mass right but I guess when we have this conversation right here it sounds like it almost sounds like the aid is there and they're

kind of waiting they're waiting for you guys and what I'm curious about is like they're just shooting people indiscriminately or it's like they're trying to find you know from what we always hear about it they're terrorists I mean, basically it's just like a free fire, basically. Like, I don't know if you've seen this video of the, I forgot his name, but the American officer that was talking about Amir, you know, the guy, the little kid that he gave like rice and lentils to.

Yeah. And this little kid, like, kissed his hand and, you know, like held him by the face and kissed him. And, you know, thank him for this little aid that he gave him. And once Amir was leaving the eight, you know, center or like the eight point, there was like a shooting and Amir was killed. So basically, like, you wouldn't say there is specific reason this person was killed and this person wasn't. It's just free fire.

That's how people get killed. But it sounds insane. It sounds like here's aid and like, but it's almost like a trap. Basically, yeah. Like, that's like the best way to do. describe it. And honestly, like, what even is not insane when it comes to our life in Gaza? Like, whatever you talk about, you're going to have some insanity in there. Like, there are some stuff that you're not going to believe. And I guess you just got to see it coming now. Like,

you have to see something coming now. Well, how can, how can people like me help? How can people actually help? So, when it comes to helping, you know, Gazans, this is something that, you know, frustrates a lot of people because no matter what people like seem to do it just never seems to be enough so one thing I would say like for anyone watching this is first of all to donate to wherever you know for a fact is someone helping on the ground in Gaza because you know when it comes to having a food crisis money would help for those just like you know going back to the die or buy you no point. That is going to help most people go to the buy option and not the dollar.

So this is one thing I would, you know, tell everyone, whoever has the capability, whoever has the ability to donate and support families and organizations on the ground, like people who know for a fact needs this money to help people or to be able to like manage with the situation themselves. Just go for it. Like it makes much, much bigger a difference. than you think. And the other thing I like to, you know, mention is the pressure that every, every, like, civilian, every resident is doing, you know, with the protests, with the boycotts, with sharing the words, with praying for, you know, us in Gaza, all of this also needs a difference.

Like, nothing goes in vain when everyone is doing it, you know. Like, no matter how middle of an effort you are putting in, If everyone is doing it, it's going to accumulate. It's going to make a much bigger difference than anyone ever imagined. And I just want to say, like, I want all the support that is going towards Gaza to keep happening and to keep being put by everyone around the world until it's enough to end all of this insanity, to help us, like, break through this, I would say, misery that we are living.

And I really hope that it's going to happen soon. God willing, I'm really hopeful about, you know, the coming days. Yeah. Yeah, dude, I'm praying. I'm praying for you guys. I just, I guess another question I have kind of on regards to, I don't know if it's the aid necessarily, but I see all these videos on Twitter. You see like, you know, iPhone videos, dead people, people shot, babies, all this stuff.

How real is that? I'm assuming that's real life That's not just like some fake It is real life Like who would spend the time Making this on AI Or maybe getting from a game A video game

When he can just record it happening On the front of them Yeah How many of your friends Have you Or people that you know personally Have passed away So for me personally

I know four people That were killed Since the soul started One of them is a relative and three of them are friends. One person that a lot of my followers and everyone that follows me knows about is Mido Halimi.

He used to be also a accounting creator. He started making content in almost the same period of time that I started making content in. We collaborated on a video. We went to the gym together and we worked out together and we made like a little challenge together. Yeah. And honestly, like having this chat right now

and knowing that I wouldn't be able to go back home and tell him, Yo, bro, I mentioned you in this interview with Bradley, and, you know, like, we spent some time talking about you. This is, like, one of the very few things that actually break me, to be honest. You know, especially after we made the YouTube video together, like we made the gym challenge together. We spent some time talking that day about, you know, like our dreams,

you know, what we're planning to do when this is all over or when a ceasefire happens and the borders open and stuff. And the least I can say is, I literally saw myself in him like he was like a twin to me like I've never felt so close to someone when it comes to personality mindset thoughts even like the spirit he has to how I felt to me though and I got to say like in a couple of days I believe like in two weeks or something he will have passed out for a full year like I still don't know remember the 27th of August 2020 24 that is the day that he was killed that was the day that he

was martyred and that was or at least that was when I got the news about it so to think that this feeling that I have for me though I could literally have for any person at any second and this is why I make sure to like fix all the people I know at least like once a day you know make sure they are fine you know ask them if they need anything ask them how they are feeling because you know like you never know when it's your last check like you never know when you're going to get the last message from them so yeah I mean I got to say like even talking about this like you know brings me a lot of memories and something like worth mentioning here you know since we are talking about the people I lost you know

maybe mentioning the laces I lost as well my gym was recently bombed as well the gym that I was working on and the gym that I was working out there you know and my journey in my videos help me understand this a little bit so this is another thing obviously we're told all the time at least in our media that the you know what's happening over there as far as the

the IDF is concerned the Israeli government there the most moral army is what they say they like to repeat that a lot and they're they're not just indiscriminately bombing things they're sort of like it's because there's you know the Hamas group is there this that's how they describe it so they were in your gym where they getting a pump I have no idea man I mean maybe those barbells look enough

like rockets for them to be bombed you know like I'm just wondering like I just so I don't get it like you know we hear it and I'm just kind of like is what's really happening are they just bombing buildings indiscriminately because I've seen pictures and the pictures very much look like every literally everything is just bombed is that just I mean, yeah, like, just, I believe, like a month ago or something, one of my friends went back to the area that we were living in, like, you know, the area where my house and his house were. And I got to tell you, like, not a single building is standing there, man. Like, I've seen the area when it was, you know, destroyed before, like, before we came back to our house. I don't know if you've watched this part of my series or, like, my videos, you know, back when we were destroyed before.

when my family and I rebuilt our house and went back to living in it. Now, going back to my house back then, I found the area completely destroyed, and now I just can't, I don't honestly know how to describe it. Because even what was left standing back then is now just trouble. I don't honestly know how, like, who believes the fact that there is any kind of, like, discriminate, you know, process happening here. But when you see like 15, 20, 30, 50 buildings being wiped out

in a single area, you know for a fact there is something wrong. Like there is no way what you're hearing is correct. And yeah, I mean, it's just, you know, when you think that my gym was bombed, my grandma's house was bombed, my relatives building was bombed, like a four house building that was like house for five families was bombed my own house was bombed like i'm i'm sitting here right in front of you did you like ever hear me talk any any like you know piece of crap that would make me like a source of danger or something no and this is like one of the reasons i really wanted to you know start making content and sharing my journey is that everyone like whenever you talk to a gazon and he tells you like he feels like his in his near he always

tells you, like, no for a fact, I am not a number, right? Like, we are numbers. Only hearing that, you know, and imagining that we are not numbers is not enough. Like, when you talk to me and you see how much I am of a nerd in the university, how much I use to, like, go to the gym, how much, like, I like this style of music or doing this kind of art or something, now you can actually feel it when I tell you that I am not a number. Yeah, you're a real human, bro. Yeah, I'm just like, I'm just like you. I'm a human being with dreams, ambitions, current plans and memories and everything in life. And, you know, all of a sudden, like, you would, you know, hear the news that I'm gone. So, are you serious? Like, this is something you would look at and

think is normal. I don't think anyone shouldn't look at this as normal by any means, right? No. So you said something that was significant about, you know, we're obviously, obviously you're not just a fucking number, right? You're not just a statistic, right? You're a fucking human being. And it's just interesting because, you know, on, I guess on the American side of things and like the political sort of commentator side of things, there's just, there's a few things I've just always found really interesting. You're Palestinian, correct? Yeah. How long have you been Palestinian for? 19 years, man. You're all right. Born and alive at Palestinian. And you know a lot of people, you know a lot of people growing up that were also Palestinian around you, right?

Yeah, a lot. Grandparents, grandparents, parents, parents, et cetera, right? Yep. There's a very weird sort of notion that Palestinians are not real people. They don't exist. And it's, it's, I just want your perspective on that because I've grown up, and when I was a child, I had Palestinian friends. I've had kids that I knew were Palestinian, and I knew that their parents were from somewhere,

a lineage from that location, that area. But to hear people modern day say things like this is sort of a problem. I mean, yeah, I would say, like, that's a huge problem, not only like a normal problem. To think of the fact that people are now, like getting to the point of dehumanizing for us, to the point that they would, like, you know, deny our identity, like, existing in the first place.

Yeah. So, honestly, bro, when you look back into history, and you would look, like, at a map that's, like, 80 or, like, 90 years old, and you look into there, and there is, like, Palestine, you know? Like, you're going to see there, like, written, like, one word, Palestine. And so whenever, like, you would think of it as doubting a full identity, like, oh, where is Palestine? Oh, who are Palestinians? You got, you got to, like, you're like pushing the line to fall now. You know, like, you can't, you can't deny something that for our fact exists.

And the fact that, you know, we are right here, you know, spreading the world. We have millions of people from all over the world. and that no, you know, they know, like, information about Palestine, that everyone that, you know, is like, oh, where's Palestine, or who are Palestinians, they probably, like, have never heard of about Palestine. So, you know, like, the whole, like, the question in and out of itself is honestly just disgusting to even, you know, begin with. And to think that me, for example, someone that was born in Gaza, lived his 19 years of age in Gaza, that knows. everyone around him with all their dreams, with all their memories, with all the places they lived in before, like in occupied Palestine, and hear all of these stories and then, like, have someone ask me, what is Palestine or who are Palestinians?

Yeah. I mean, like, if, with everything that's happening, everything you are hearing, everything you are seeing by your own eyes, you still have this question. I'm honestly, like, hopeless and changing your thoughts about it. What more can we do to, like, prove our point? Yeah, by the way, I don't have that question. It's just, like, I'm posing, I'm posing something that I've heard it. And when I heard it, I was like, that is fucking despicable.

Like, that is, that is the definition of, like, scumbag. Just, I can't even believe that I, I can't believe that it was real. I mean, yeah, like, bro. Especially with, you know, this is like something I, you know, did. Like, you know, this is something like I really loved to, you know, incorporate into my journey, which is fitness, you know, like the whole, my whole, you know, like, Facebook page, like Instagram page is about fitness, basically. Yeah, of course, I've seen it. Yeah, and the reason that I did this is that, you know, when people think about Palestinians, they always think about them as, you know, evacuating and crying and stressing out and, you know, like, not knowing to do what. not knowing what to do in life.

But I'm like, bro, we have, like, we are actual human beings. We are actual, you know, we are people who have, you know, dreams. We have the same vision you have to different aspects of life. And for you to not only, like, doubt my existence and to doubt my humanness, let's say, but for you to also, like, doubt my identity, when I am, you know, out here sharing that I'm a normal human being, with all the history that you've heard of with all the memories that you've heard of

with all the events that you've heard of and I am still going I'm still you know sharing you the life that I have with everything that I've lived through so far I mean that's just despicable to say the least bro like it's just stupid

yeah it's crazy man but at least you at least this is not funny why am I laughing I was going to say at least you have this is the normal reaction I know I know at least you have the uh you have the probably like the record for the craziest place in the world do have worked out like you like there's no there's no beating that dude i think you got the you have the crown on

that i don't think anyone else would work out anywhere like more insane oh yeah you know like this is something that you know a lot of people tell me about especially like that one clip of me working out on the rubble of my own house yeah yeah that is like something that people went crazy on. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean,

I definitely, like, have the crown for this. Like, I don't think anyone will have any crazier place. Because, you know,

like, whenever I tell someone, like, what was the craziest place you ever worked out in? They would tell me, oh, yeah, like,

in a restroom or like in a restaurant or, like, in the principal's office or something. I'm like, oh, are you being serious, man?

Like, what even is that? Like, there's no competition, you know? Yeah. Bro, God, doing pull-ups in a house that was,

it's not funny. I'm sorry. I feel like it's so painful. It's like the only way to make it. It's not all right. It will never be all right. I apologize. It is fucking terrible. But it's a made for really good content. Yeah, I apologize, man. I'm sorry this is happening. Honestly, bro, like the thing about like our lives is that like I told you in the beginning, if it wasn't so tragic, it could have been funny. And I honestly like imagine this, even if like worse scenarios happen and you know like even if something bad happens for me like let's say the rest of my house gets destroyed okay i had like two rooms still standing in my house and we fixed them and everything and if i go back to them and i find that they are bombed you know like even that little part of my house is also destroyed now i honestly have no idea what my reaction will be other than laughing i honestly have no idea like even for me someone who's a affected by this, even someone, like, who's, like, going to live the next few months and

years in a whole different condition, in a whole different situation, because something terrible happened to, like, that is still, like, even for me, I can't, I can't help a clap about it. So, yeah, whenever, like, your smile, whenever you smile or laugh about it, just, like, don't apologize. I understand the feeling, bro. Yeah. I understand that's more than you do, I would say. Well, man, it's, like, the interesting thing is, I don't even want to say at least. It's such a weird, weird position to be in, but you for sure will probably never,

ever go through something harder than what you're going through right now. I can't imagine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, you know, when you make it out of this, I think every single other challenge in your life will feel very, very small. Very small.

Like, you put it like, yeah, you'll hit the nail, on the head man like yeah you know when i think about like my life this is all over when i get back to some kind of normal life because honestly like when i think about it right now what what i need is that i would have a stable source of electricity a stable source of internet a stable source of food and some sense of safety that is all i'm asking for yeah that is the most that is the most basic human shit ever yeah like I'm telling you, when I think about my life before this all started, I'm like, bro, what was I even complaining about back then?

Like, bro, I had chicken, I had oats, I had a gym to work out in, I had, like, I was safe in my house. I would go out like at 12 a.m., like in the middle of the night to go to the gym and hit like a night session, and that would be completely fine. There would be like not a single problem, my phone would be charged, I would have internet, I would be able to text whoever I want. I honestly have no idea what problems I had back then like oh my my university is getting too like I'm having too much stress and pressure

in my university bro just man up okay that that is really not that much pressure as much as you think it is okay yeah that's for damn sure bro so I mean it's such a sad thing but there's

there's a little bit of silver lining maybe I mean okay Like, I would say the silver line here is going to be the fact that right now, I am much luckier than a lot of people. Like, you know, I have a platform. I have a fundraiser that people can support me on. I have, like, I would say with the support that I'm getting, like, by the way, we're going to put that in the link in the description right now. So if you guys want to support, go there right now and do it.

Do it right now. Yeah, really appreciate it. Thank you so much. Yeah, of course. So, you know, like, with the support that I'm getting from people all around. the world I can say that I was at least able to have one meal throughout my day when people were literally starving from hunger and the fact that I have this platform helped me not only like help myself and my family but also like help those who really need it so

you know like whenever I would see someone struggling to like get maybe like baby formula for their for their baby or like get flour for his hungry children I am able to help them because of this support that I am getting. And other than the mental peace, like the inner peace that you get from helping someone out, it's also the fact that this is not a one-time thing, it's not like a one-time thing, you know. Like this is something that I'm going to continue to do. I'm going to continue getting support, you know, God willing. I'm going to continue to help people, those who I see struggling to provide the basic stuff for their families.

so yeah I would say the silver lining in all of this for me personally is the fact that I am luckier than most people I have food in my house I have a tent to live in like I know a tent is not much but at least shelter you know to have and not sleep on the side of the street like most people are right now and yeah the fact that I didn't lose like my arm I didn't I wasn't injured. I wasn't, you know, disabled or something by one of these close bombings that happened to me multiple times since this all started. The closest of which was a piece of land that was like eight meters away from my house. Like there was literally a street between my house and a piece of land that was targeted with five bombs back then. So were you there when it happened?

Yeah, I was there. Is there a way for me to like share my screen on Zoom? to share your screen yeah I mean if not I can send you the pictures like I have yes you can send me everything on like

on the WhatsApp where we're communicating send me everything and then I'll put it in here yeah so like there's a picture that I took like I believe two or three days

after the airstrike happened I've taken that picture from my house's balcony and you can see the like the pithole or like the hole in the ground because of the bomb was like right there like you were there like you were there when it hit though yeah i was inside

the house yeah back then i remember the day like i remember it so vividly it was around midday i believe it was like five or six p.m that was when the first airstrike happened and back then we had almost like i don't know bro like 50 people evacuating in our house from the north so uh we would like my house was like a three-floor house like it was a basement and two floors. So we would have like four or three or three families in every floor of these three. And when the first air strike happened, I was in the basement. And all of a sudden, like, I found a glass like breaking inside the house, dust getting into inside the house. I had no idea what is going on. And like I told you, it's not even that you hear

it anymore. It's just that you, you feel like everything stopped for a second and then like it continued from the you have like no idea how this is so you know like when when a like when a bomb would happen it would drop nearby you would hear like the sound of it falling and then like the impact but in this one like there was no falling sound like straight into the impact so because it was so close yeah because it was so close like i'm telling you i opened my house's door and i just saw dust like i didn't see like anything in front of me i didn't see the street i didn't see the wall that we have in front of the house, I just thought thus it. So it was like extremely close and we didn't even like expect that piece of land to be targeted in the first place.

Like we had no idea what is going on like what house was bombed, what who was killed, like nothing. And from there like from that time like once the first airstrike happened like five or six p.m. up until like nine p.m., the four other air strikes. dropped. So every like half an hour, they would like target that piece of land again. I don't honestly know why for no reason. And yeah, it was honestly like one of the toughest nights I've lived since this all started. So they kept bombing the same piece of land next to your home? Yeah, like the exact same piece of land. Now we had two pieces of land next to our house. And for the bombs that were dropped at night, we didn't know which of the two was the one that's getting bombed.

So we thought like 90% for a fact, it's going to be the other one. But then like the next day when we woke up and, you know, like the daylight, you know, like showed up what happened. We looked at the other piece of land and there was nothing there. And it was this piece of land that had like, I don't know about like 50 meter ball, like, you know, a 50 meter wide ball in it. And yeah, in that day, that was like the first evacuation that I did. So like I told you, when it comes to like the first few months into, you know, the whole insanity that we're living, it, uh, it wasn't like a matter of, oh, hey, like, you got to evacuate your area. No, it was like, okay, a bomb, a house was bombed like next to my house. Okay, I can't stay here. I got to leave. So that was the first. So they're not giving you, they're not giving you like alerts. They're not saying get out of this area. We're going to bomb it. Well, most of the time, yeah, like they are not. And even if they do, like you have so little time to pack your stuff. move out. So it will even get to the point that people would get injured while evacuated.

So like, okay, I'm moving out of the area. Okay, I'm evacuating. I'm peaceing out. But you don't have time. Like, you didn't have much time to even get all of your stuff back to get a transportation and leave. How much, speaking of the evacuation process, how much land is there left that's not been, like, bombed or? Honestly, like, the area that I was in, it's called it's like in the middle of Gaza's trip it's like not to the south not to the north it's like in the middle I believe that is like the only area that is still in good condition or at least like was in the condition and almost three weeks ago I had to evacuate from it so right now like speaking as of I'm sitting right here talking to you right now I would

say less than 10 to 15 percent of Gaza's area is a safe zone I'm like a safe zone you know, I gotta say, like, put a quote unquote, to, you know, for people to evacuate to and to be, to feel kind of safe and, you know, to be able to put their tent in, you know, to have some kind of life in. So yeah, it's like, this is why, that's it, like, living in a tent now is much harder than it was before, and it's because of how crowded the areas are, you know, like, the area that I'm in right now, like, there are three other tents, less than three meters away from my own tent. So, like, Oh, I mean, this is just insane. Like, I can't believe I'm loving this.

But, you know, al-hambulah, thank God for everything. Yeah, it's, oh, my God. Yeah, I'm sorry, bro. That's fine, man. So one thing back you mentioned earlier, we were talking about the starvation thing. We see a lot of, you know, sort of talk about this as well in our media. How real is that? The starvation.

Yeah. Honestly, it can't get any more real than it is right now, especially, like, the fact that I don't even look at it from what is happening in the media anymore, even though you go to the media and you see people, like, as young as a few months old, to as old as 80 or 70 years old, literally dying from starvation, you know, like, you can see the videos, though, like, they are literally skin to bone, like, there is nothing left in them. And even for me, like, I remember I posted this around a month ago. It was a post on my Instagram page, and I said that all of us in Gaza have one or two weeks to stay alive. After that, you're going to see, like, people dying in groups because of starvation because they have nothing to eat. And the more I went to like the streets, the more I, you know, went out and talked to people and, you know, went through the streets. the more I believe that this is real because every single person that I'm seeing

is like way too skinny to be like you know healthy you know what I mean yeah you know for okay like I understand like there are people that can't gain weight there are people that can't lose weight but no matter how skinny

you are no matter how fast your metabolism is no matter how how much you moved every day like there's no way you've been this skinny your entire life So that goes from people that I personally know that I've seen lose weight and get much, much skinnier, like with time. And all the way to strangers that I've never met in my life, that I am literally, like, shocked at how skinny they are, like, how they are even able to move or, like, carry anything around because of how skinny their arms and their necks and their legs are.

and, you know, seeing them, like, go, like, I would sit in, like, a place, just like the one that I'm sitting in right now. And I would, you know, like, see some of them for, like, throughout the hours that I sit in, in the place. And they have nothing to eat. Like, they literally, like, sometimes I would have, like, a piece of bread that I brought from home and, like, you know, a cup of coffees that I made. But for them, like, they have literally nothing to eat. And they would stay for longer than me and not have anything to eat. So it's honestly just unfathomable to think that this is happening in a world where food is much more available and much more accessible than any time ever. Yeah.

And, yeah, I mean, I just hope that it's going to be solved soon. Like, it's already getting a bit better right now. And I hope it's going to keep going this way until things are back to normal, inshallah. You just, you think it's getting better right now. Yeah. Because this takes me back to the point. of the three sources of aid that we have that we have and just recently eight trucks are now allowed into Gaza not in the not not in the amounts that we

really need like not in enough amounts because you know according to UN statistics according to me like seeing how would we need in Gaza on a daily basis you need anywhere from 500 600 trucks daily to in Gaza and this is what happened in the ceasefire like when the ceasefire started in January 2025, you know, earlier this year. That is how many A-trucks were allowed into Gaza. But right now, it's like anywhere from 70 to 80, you know, eight trucks a day. Now, of course, like with time, it accumulates.

It makes a bigger difference. Like, a lot of products are now available in the market that weren't available, like, one or two months ago. A lot of products are much lower in price. So you're saying, like, a kilogram of sugar went from $100 to tip $15. in like three days. A kilogram of rice went from $25 to $10 also like in three days. So you see how simple it is, how much, like how quick of a difference it means.

But we've been deprived from it for over five months. You know what's interesting about the statement you just made? Is that if Hamas was the one selling you, the terrorists were the ones selling you this stuff, the price wouldn't change regardless. meaning it sounds like it's people it sounds like it's civilians who were sort of keeping what they could and selling what they could because of the quantity like supply and demand versus like a terrorist group keeping the stuff and charging whatever they wanted for it so yeah I mean I guess sort of getting back to the fitness side of things like how are you even able to get

enough food uh short answer I can't like I'm not getting enough food you know anyone that's asking about it. I'm not getting enough food. The longer answer, the more detailed answer to it is I am mainly doing it. Are you good, bro? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah.

You know, the more detailed answer to it would be, I am doing this mostly for the mental side of it. You know, like, okay, I'm going to like 1,000 to 1,200 calories throughout my day. and that is not enough to like build the slightest bit of muscle you know like talking about me when I calculated how much how many calories I need in a day to maintain my body weight it would be like around 2,400 2,500 and the fact that I'm getting half of that like less than half of that is definitely like not a good sign

I talked about this in my latest video with Jeff Neppard by the way for anyone that wants to check that up so yeah I would say As much as I try to optimize training and nutrition, to still make results, to still make gains, to still make progress in my fitness journey, I would say like my main focus in it was, you know, for my mental, you know, side of it. You know, it's just that I would like to stay committed to this little bit of my daily routine that I was used to, that I used to love. And to feel locked in for like half an hour or an hour every day, even though my workouts are not sure. than that because I don't have much energy to do a lot of exercises but yeah like anyone that's you know deep into the fitness stuff knows for a fact that with not much nutrition with not much calories with not much protein you're not going to make

the best progress if any progress at all so I would say my main focus right now is just having my mental side to it you know still in place not you know to kind of keep up with everything that's been going on. Yeah. And to hopefully maintain what I've felt throughout my journey so that when the situation gets better, which I hope is going to happen soon, I'm going to be able to build from there and to continue taking steps, even though my gym was bombed and I have to stick to homework workouts for now.

But, yeah, I just hope to, you know, like continue on, make more progress, get more chat, you know, go on with this fitness too. Well, dude, when you get, when you make it out, you got to come to my gym. I'll fly you out here myself. I'll get you somewhere to stay and you can come train at the gym. And I'm, and it won't get bombed. It won't get bombed. I promise. Yeah, bro. Like, we're not going to get bombed, bro. Like it's going to be safe. No, no, no, no. I'll fly you out. I promise. It sounds weird, but I'll fly you out. The only bomb is going to be the chest workout. We're going to be happy. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm down. It'll be good. Now, let's look. That's, that's what

we got to do, bro. Let's look forward to that. I'm hon. I already am, bro. I'm already looking forward to that. We'll film a YouTube video. We'll get a chess workout. We'll get some good food. We won't have to worry about any sort of like, you know, bombings, I guess. Fuck. Oh, I'm sorry, bro.

I'm sorry, man. I am. You don't have to be. It's fine. Like, you shouldn't be. Like I told you, like in the beginning of this, you can't, you know, have a conversation with a Gazan about his life and not expect some insanity here and there.

It's fine. Like the insanity is there everywhere, basically. Yeah. So yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to that chest for Cabrero. It's got to be fire, man. Yeah, good. But by the way, do you know how to do muscle ups? Yeah, I'm really good.

You can't do muscle ups. Oh, yeah. Big boy muscle ups. Dang, I wanted to be the one to teach you how to do it. No, no, you can still show me. You can show me your style. You can show me how to do it on the rubble of your home home. Yeah, we can, 100%.

The rubble of your own home muscle ups. Because I don't know how to do those kind of muscle ups, bro. I've never done them. I've never done them. What were you on? You were on like a wire. It was like a wire from like a, like a re, it was like a rebar. Yeah, yeah.

It was like, you know, like I don't know what they call them in English, but they are like the basis of the house. Yeah. You know, like on the basis of the house. That was what it was. So it would have like, you know, thick like iron wires inside. Yeah. And after that like we would, you know, use the cement. We would put like the concrete over it.

So, yeah, that part was the destroyed part of my house. Did you ever, did you ever pick up the rubbles and new curls? Oh, 100%, man. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's so fucked, bro. Wow. One second, bro.

I might have to change my place. There's someone trying to focus on their studies right here. Okay, it's going to end here. Listen, bro, stay in contact. Stay in contact on the WhatsApp. And we'll sort out the rest of the rest of the, to the interview stuff so it's smooth for you and then um brother i appreciate your time oh no problem man i mean you're fucking awesome man thank you so much and this goes without saying but i hope i hope it

works out really well for you and then when it does i'm going to make sure i'm going to fly you out we're going to get you a nice spot we're going to get you some food seriously i appreciate your time man thank you so much for having me on bro it was lovely to share my unity and like with you thank you brother good to have you great to be here bro thank you so much see you man yeah See you more.