RAWTALK - Is Mike Majlak really the father?

Episode Date: December 1, 2021

Join our open therapy session with Mike Majlak. Where dive deep into a flow state of reflecting and trying to figure out what's next. We speak on relationships, habits, burning out, content, learning, having control, and most importantly BEING PRESENT. So take notes and be present with us on this session that may surprise you.SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://vm.TikTok.com/TTPdQbEqVX/FOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

So I asked the questions. What channels this for? This is for podcast, a little intro, and then this is for my channel. Yeah, so we got some questions going to ask rot talk at gmail.com. Sorry until you got to wait. Questions right now, you wait. He made me wait outside too, yo. I waited outside for like 30 minutes.

You're not going to talk about it canceled on me, though, yesterday. I did, bro. It's funny, I want to talk about this on the show. But I woke up yesterday and I was like, you remember the first time it came on the shot? I had like a panic attack, bro. I'm always dealing with like some sort of fucking mental shit. And yesterday I woke up and I was like, I can't do a podcast today. I just was just, yeah, we'll talk about it.

But then I woke up today and I was like, wow, today's even worse. But here's why I like it. Because this motherfucker, bro, he's like my therapist. And I'm going to talk about this shit on the show. He's like a giant teddy bear, dude. He's so soft-spoken and he makes you want to say shit and get vulnerable. I love this show. That's a little sex dungeon room.

The green room. It is actually a green room. It's kind of wet. I got a wait until we get in the pockets to say this. Oh, that's you, right? I remember. I'm trying to think of what's like on most of your student. Oh, what's that would I be on if it was impulsive?

You're on this. You don't need to use this in two cans or three. Mike, where are you sitting and then we could figure where you want? I'll say anywhere you want. I'll say right there. Yeah. Unless you like that spot. Ah, no, no, no.

Fuck you, buddy. Do you order to wear headphones, right? I don't know. Eating all a worm? Nah, he don't want to because he doesn't want to fuck his hair out. That's his reason. Yeah, exactly. That's the last thing I need to worry about.

Brad, I don't have to worry about that. You guys are kind of magic. Yeah, I'll go working on something. Let me help you. I need help. Have you know that, right? It's just behind you. Oh, fuck.

Very nice. Oh, wait. Pause. Wait. I have a question. Why the fuck am I here right now? He's supposed to be. I don't know like you're here, but you said he said he needed to be here.

I'm happy. Oh my god, bro. I would have left two hours ago, dude. He does like that, dude. No, he's got great legs. He's got like handhawks. He's squad. I got pissed.

That's my videographer editor. He's actually, he's lit. He's got me be, man. He's crazy. All right. So let's just start this shit. We got the fucking one and only back. Actually, this is one of the most requested episodes since when I did it. How long ago was it? I'm almost a little more than a year ago on a culture cast originally. Obviously, we rebranded called a Raw Talk now. But you are always a person that people are like, yo, you got to get Mike back on the show and talk about what's going on. So here he is, highly anticipated. We got some questions that we got asked from AskRot Talk at gmail.com. If you guys got asked us questions for future shows. shoot him to that email but let's get right into it um besides the fact that i took too much mushrooms today today earlier today wait wait hold on a sec yeah first i want to say this too thank you for having me back on the show yes the first show that we did was one of my favorite podcast that i've ever

done uh i said it earlier to a different camera but i you have a way about you that uh makes a guest feel very comfortable and and uh offers them the ability to get quite vulnerable on your show which we did on the first thing, on the first episode. Massively, man. And we both talked about a lot of shit. Yeah. And that's why I think so many people, honestly, just a show in general, I'm so grateful that people are here for that kind of content.

I think, you know, just generally, I think there's not so much deeper connection with a lot of creators. And I think the people who are going to get closer to that are continue success throughout this, like for years to come are going to be the people who continue to connect like that. Yeah, yeah. And you've always had a knack for doing that. Like, from the moment that I met you, that's the thing that I've always. admire the most about you is that you you didn't really hold back things and obviously you know

you have your book um and you've gone into like massive detail about your life and i i don't want to i don't want to i want to try to not go over a bunch of stuff you've kind of already talked about and i know stuff we have already talked about what i really wanted to talk to you about today besides like a bunch of other shit is is the feeling of um being burnt out in life yeah yeah i talked about it recently quite a bit it's uh this this year's been uh a massive grind um i think i think coming out of 2020 I saw 2021 as this window that was open and you know obviously being a guy that's continuing to get older and you know one of the older guys in the space I didn't know how long the window is going to be open for it I still don't and uh you know throughout the course of

the entire year there were so many times where I was like dude I can't do this anymore I said on an episode recently like when you say do this you mean social media not that that too I mean I think we can get into that but I just mean like I need a break like I need to shut down for a hot second you know what I'm saying and I said it on an episode recently I don't know that and this isn't like a brag or anything maybe it is I don't know that there's anybody that has traveled more for content or or put in that many hours of travel for content I have been a fucking do we've been to Europe like six times we're in Dubai I mean I have not spent a weekend or a week in Los Angeles the entire year so but is this for content I don't think

Is this for the, just impulsive stuff? It's a mix of impulsive. So we have to travel for impulsive. Obviously, Logan's in Puerto Rico now. So we have to either go there, meet somewhere. And obviously the trek to Puerto Rico is treacherous from L.A. There's stops. It's a disaster.

And I generally blend that in with a night shift episode because I have, I found a format that I really like with travel, food, and collaboration with other creators. And so what I'll do is I'll go to a, a random. city along the way or just do it in the city that we're filming impulsive or around an event and I'll put a bunch of people in the same place that like normally aren't together like people that I think will be good for the content and shoot the content shoot three impulsive episodes fly to another city fly home you know what I'm saying I'm home for a couple days and then it's repacked the bags and get back on the road so there there's no place like where impulsive calls home not really I mean technically Dorado Puerto Rico you know we have a set there uh we rented a way

warehouse and we have a set there. Uh, and so technically that's like home base right now, but I mean, we've shot, I mean, dude, we've shot in, we've shot in Vegas, we've shot in Miami, we've shot in LA, we've shot in Puerto Rico. We shot in Iceland. Yeah. Uh, I mean, with, uh, with the mountain from Game of Thrones. Yeah. With Thor. Um, and so it's really, it's really been a grind. And I think like, you know, it, I think I, I just, over the past, like, couple months have started to kind of feel that like taking a little bit of a toll. Plus all the friendship, like you just talked about like and i'm not and i'm not complaining even for a second i'm so blessed with the fucking opportunity to be to be able to do this stuff but it it's just uh it's a lot sometimes

yeah do you do you like know where you're going with it like is there a clear defined because that's the thing with social media man that's so real like even the very beginning since from starting this there was no like where does this end never there's never been that feeling for me there still isn't that feeling for me and i do have moments where i'm like man how much long because i've been doing this shit for like 11 years now i just realized that it's just thanks said thanksgiving everyone again i was like i've been saying this for 11 years on social media um obviously not doing the podcast for as many years not even as many years as you've been doing it actually wait i did it for four years how long you got more probably have more time not as many

episodes definitely not as many episodes i was i was as consistent but my question is like at your age and i mean i'm 32 as well not that you're 32 but i'm 32 just so you to make this clear like where do you see yourself in this in the next five years 10 years because i but Here's a deal. I think, I look at this and I go, oh, this is the thing I can do forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you don't feel that way? No, I do.

So the podcast is the one thing that breaks the mold. And, uh, you know, I, I, I think it comes down to like, what, what are you doing it for? You know what I'm saying? What are you doing it for? And like, unfortunately, you know, and, like, I really do intend on getting vulnerable today and like talking about some shit that I don't talk about other places just because I think I just love doing it here. I've been, uh, have been, uh, have been.

come kind of swallowed up by the by the machine you know what I'm saying and and and and the brand deals and the ad dollars and the sponsorships and the clothing and you know building IP for products and shit like that and I for the past like you know six months seven months eight months have neglected so many other things in that hunt for capital and I think that like over the past month dude like even just as recently as like Virgil passing. You know what I was going to ask you about that. It just like, it really like cemented something with me because that happened kind on the back end of me being able to take a few days off and spend some time with my family.

I just really am trying to remind myself and caution other creators not to spend their entire life chasing a currency that cannot buy the things that truly matter. You know what I'm saying? Like I found myself just like, dude, like, no, no, no, I don't want two million this year. I don't want three million. I want fucking 10 million. Like yeah. And it's never going to be enough.

The money's never going to be enough. There's never a point where you're going to be like, yo, I have enough money now. Yeah. But one thing you'll never be able to get back or buy back is family time. Yeah. Love fucking you know what I'm saying.

Like like all of those things that that your health, Virgil had more money than anybody dog. And he and and that shit came out of nowhere, bro. And he and he suffered through that shit and couldn't do anything about it. I don't know. Do you know how long he was dealing with? I think it was a little,

I think it was a little while. So it didn't. come out of nowhere that's yeah because he was just dealing with it private i know he just wasn't put it out there on the internet or anything but i can totally relate to this man i mean dude over the 11 years of me doing this i could say without a doubt that like i there's there's times when i pause and i'm like damn i feel bad that i should spend more time with my mom and even my mom is just i heard for thanksgiving and i do spend time with her but even the time spent with her is like damn was i really that was i really as present as i could be as a person because i find

myself like you said in the back end like making sure this is good and there's all this other shit that I'm worried about like in business and pushing this project forward, pushing the moving my gym to a new location, all these things that are like constantly in the back of my mind and in my subconscious that I'll even notice while I'm even trying to be present, like my subconscious is like just like trying to fucking allocate all like, what is this going, where is this going, where is this going, where's this going, at the same exact fucking time.

And it's just weird thing, man. I'm not at all telling everyone listening like, hey, feel bad for me. You know, my life is hard and this is difficult. it's just a different thing that like it's a new thing that people are dealing with this is a new thing like this social media feeling of burnout but obviously not everyone listening can be like

oh I can relate to that because I make content I get that but like you're saying if we're speaking to the people who are going to try to make content because I know this for a fact one of the number one things that kids say they want to do growing up now is be a social media creator it's the number one like 90% yeah literally it's crazy and also just and just to like further

you know cement your your point that you're making we're all making content dog everybody she's making he's made everybody out there's making content everybody watching the show's making content in some way or another they all have an instagram page when they're out with their family their mom their brother playing with their dog they're taking videos they're posting that shit on instagram stories yeah so the so the point that you're making about being present is going to be an obstacle and a discussion that every single person is going to have to have with themselves with themselves over the next 50 or so years you're going to get to the end of the road and be like damn dude like i was taking pictures the day before my fucking dog pat

you know what i'm saying like yeah and and it's just something that's really been haunting me lately it's just like he's just like i don't want to i don't want that to fucking happen bro and especially it's one thing to like be it's one thing to say that you were doing it in the pursuit of a creative craft and something that you loved it's another thing to have to say that You were doing it all for money, bro. That's just something I never want to have to admit and to be like, damn, I gave up, you know, this relationship or, or, you know, stop doing something else that I love

because this paid better. And I found myself literally sliding in that direction. You know what I'm saying? So it's, you know, over the past like a few months, I've definitely been going inward a little bit more to try to figure out like, yo, what is it that I actually want? What is it that I want to do? And I agree with you on the podcast 100%.

Impulsive will, will go on forever um it's it's been a great business play for me it's been a a great collaborative and creative effort people love the show um you know full transparency i've been working on my own i was gonna say i was gonna say yeah behind the scenes just because to be completely honest with you dude like uh as much as we have the vibe that exists exists on impulsive i have a i have a completely different angle as it pertains to the older set you know what i'm is the reason we click. Yeah, absolutely.

And I think, I think you'd be amazing on, like, would pod just solo pod with guests or solo pie with guests or so like this? Solo pie with guests potentially with like a person on it. I mean, in all honesty, it's already in production with WME. Yeah. I'm excited for it, man. Because you're, you're the, like I said, there's not many other people like in this space that I've, I've talked about things and see eye to eye on.

But I want to get back to the thing you were talking about. Have you ever, are there any, what, what relationships do you think you have, have spoiled because of social media? I mean, let's just do it. Yeah, I mean, dude, listen, like, I think, I think being in the public eye as much as, you know, obviously we'll talk about the relationship with, with, uh, for a second. Yeah. I think just being in the public eye as much as we were, it definitely, um, it was like, it was like being in a relationship right at the beginning of your come up. You know what I'm saying? A come up that you had dreamed about your whole life. You know, what I'm saying? A come up that you had dreamed about your whole life. You know what I'm saying like like something you had worked so fucking hard for dude and like and had you know written the book and had you know Put together the relationships and put together the mindset and put together and started working your ass off to create the channel and it was almost like One thing that that relationship really taught me was was the importance of timing bro like I know that's so cliche and people always talk about it in life and you and like as you go through a relationship with someone a romantic relationship you have all these like nah I

she does this or he does that or like or like we just don't click on that level and even though you do click even though that chemistry might be there a lot of times it all just comes down to what stage of life are the two different people yeah i got it i got to i got to jump in on that man i i i um personally went through this i had an eight-year relationship and in the beginning of my eight-year relationship was literally like you said which is why i'm sharing the story right now my my whole come up like my whole life changing and this person was actually an integral part of that because the person did so much for me when I needed a lot of help. The person let me stay with them.

But it was like in my come up of what I was doing on social media. And prior to that relationship, I had gotten out of another relationship that put me in a position where, like you said, timing in life, I was very like, I felt super hurt. I felt super taking advantage of because the way that that past relationship prior to this person fell out. And then when I got out of that, I was like, fuck everyone, fuck everything. I'm going to take advantage of everyone and everything and every opportunity because I felt so hurt.

because in that other relationship I let go of financial stability through like my clients and all these things that I was cutting loose because I was trying to I was trying to make the other person happy and like show that I was this person or show that I was good enough or show that I was the right you know like I could make this work and I'm not talking to this person and I'm trying to expel these issues that were in that thing and I was like pulling away from myself taking away from myself and then I met this girl right after it was like pretty much blew up my face and the girl was like fuck you yeah I met the girl like two weeks later and it was like super sweetheart amazing person great intentions went through her own issues and drama and childhood stuff and past relationships and i had all these trust issues then i met her and was like that was me the person who was like i'm gonna take advantage of everyone and everything because i was so hurt right and then i did that to her and then it took me about and i was with her for like two years taking advantage of all the things that she gave me and in two years i was like damn i really love this chick and so imagine this it was an eight-year relationship but two years in i realized that and it was way too late and then it was just an up and big and

down like terrible clockwork up and down because of the toxicity that that existed in the beginning of the relationship yeah i mean that i can obviously relate to so much too i mean we had that same kind of thing happen and like honestly i just i just want even more than it me being on that career path because by the way she was massively responsible as a catalyst for that career trajectory uplift you know what i'm saying i don't have the town i'm not saying i don't work hard enough but she was she was a massive eye draw and a marketing tool what whatever you want to and call it to bringing new eyes on so she was a big catalyst for that growth but i mean also like it really just uh uh brought out um and and showed me a bunch of other problems that i have yeah

uh as it pertains to romance that were not as easy so what do you what are you doing now to like to learn from these things because like this genuinely true it's like there are things that we can be really good at i know i've always excelled at like business and like marketing and ideas and all this stuff I was able to put my mind and be like oh I could see what works I could see what doesn't work I could see what people like I can see what people don't like and go towards those things and I was always really good at that aspect of my life was always very solid of learning and understanding and understanding people but then when it came to like my personal intimate relations because all the blocks that I had growing up and the things that I put in front of

myself I was never able to put that guard down in myself to look inside to myself and say hey these are the things I was going through like this is why I was here but that's not current circumstance now and then letting that situation be based on the now instead of just my past I wasn't able to let go of things and I was so good at these other lanes and even still I find myself struggling sometimes with friendships struggling majorly with relationships to be my full potential like my true genuine self in those things because I'm afraid of being taken advantage of I'm afraid of rejection I'm afraid of feeling like you know I'm not good enough all that shit so what have you learned in like that whole process I remember seeing I'm like holy shit

this is like your come up was like fucking massive it was it was insane um what what have you learn now after all that stuff at like the smoke is settled obviously like what have you learn majorly that that you're like okay these are some things that i really need to look at myself and not fix but but you know kind of heal a little bit or or try to no fix is fine i mean i mean i dude like my biggest thing has always been uh i just run dude you know what i'm saying I run. I run. And I always have. And it fits in completely with this discussion we were having before about the travel. It's not only because of content, man. I'm, I'm, I'm just in a spot right now where I don't, I don't fully understand a lot of things, bro. And so it's, it's in my nature

to run. I, I, uh, I, I, it's a, a lot of stuff comes down to your mindset, dude. Like, like, like, like, like fully comes down to your mindset. And my whole life, since I was 15 years old I told myself that I was a degenerate I was a scumbag I was a piece of shit I was and not like not like to other people but just the way that I treat myself the way I talk about myself I got fucked up I partied I had rampant fucking sex all the time even before all this shit you know what I'm saying like I've been doing that for so fucking long and I and and unfortunately the way the mind works it's it's a habit yeah and I built this um I built this thought of myself that that's all I'm ever going to be that's who I am as a person and I and luckily

I've been able to balance that with some really great stuff the book how I talk about mental health how I talked and and and those things and trying to eat better and exercise and all that stuff but like in a lot of ways man I'm still really undeveloped and underdeveloped when it comes to how I think about myself and how my how my mind works and that's why I'm asking like what are you doing personally like what are you doing for yourself just running man To be honest, I know, I know that, dude. I mean, dude, like honestly, like I, I, uh, I'm just, like I said, I'm going to show up and be completely honest with you today, bro. I, I, I, I, so my, and my question right away when you say that is like, what are you running from? Intimacy, commitment, uh, any kind of, any kind of relationship. It, I don't know what it is, bro. I always, it's something that's been a part of me since I was a kid, bro. You know what I'm saying? Because you're like, is it, is it being good enough? no it's not even that i i i i know my worth that's never been a worth question it's it's i don't

know if it's like something that was built into me as a kid like with my with my family like obviously like i i had traumas like you did and in my in my childhood and um i don't know what it is do but for some reason like uh relationships in general worry me they they they create an unease inside of me and so like are you are the worries are the worries about infidelity are the No, never. Never. Never. I've never, I've never once ever had a girl that I was I was, I was ever worried about shit. I mean, dude, I'm Amra was the most loyal girl I've ever met in my entire life. Yeah. She literally didn't know another guy existed outside of me. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? For as long as we dated. It was it was actually fucking crazy because it was so counter

what what you all the little kids thought was the case. You know what I'm saying? So it was like it was crazy. No, it's it's not even that dude. It's just um it's I don't know what it is. It's, uh, I've been trying to go inward and think through it a little bit lately. And I have a problem with anyone else having any control in my life. It's, it's, it's, uh, this, this fucking need to be in full control because I, I, I, I, I, I, I think it might just

be because I don't innately trust the decision making of other people. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's, that's, that's understand. And that's what, and that's what a relationship is. I, I, I, I, I give it this, um, this like, little, uh, like, like, analogy. you know what I'm saying where yeah I told me this one right

I'm the last show or no no I just know yeah you're in a car and you're driving on the highway and you know for as long as you've existed or you've always driven it you've always driven with your hand with both hands on the wheel and you're driving down the road and I think that in a lot of ways

when you get in a relationship with someone else you have to take a hand off and have them put a hand on the wheel that drives your car and you're like no the fuck are you doing you know what I'm saying because at any point dude like even a year in or like six months in, you don't know the mental state of the other person.

You don't know the hormonal imbalances. You don't know what the fuck is going to happen. And on any given day, I've always felt like, yo, what if that person jerks the wheel into a fucking wall? Yeah. And I got to go and clean up the pieces. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I've always, I don't want you touching my, my radio in the car.

I don't want you driving me anywhere. I don't want you planning vacations. Like I've always been this fucking control freak. And it's something that I really need to learn how it fix. It's crazy because I totally identify and understand how you feel because I feel the same way. But here's the interesting thing that we were talking about earlier as well. We're talking about being present and our own ability to be present in social media and how difficult it is now as we've like grown. And in people, everyone listening, you go to a dinner place, everyone's just on their fucking phone.

It's so much harder for people to be present. But that is in and of the same problem. If like in your life you're talking about you're afraid to let someone else have the wheel and like where they're going to go with it, that's all. also an inability to be present because you have to understand I know you know this you're not naive to this you're not dumb at all that is a major part of life like that is life allowing that if you want that in your life in your space having another half someone in your life right intimate relationship you have to allow that just as much as you allow yourself to be in control you know what I'm saying so it's like it's a release of the control that's the number one thing and I know that's why I have such a hard time with like you know that my biggest fear in life is death because I have no understanding of what the other side is and I've been I'm thinking about it since I was six years old because my father, right? Yeah. So, but I know that that's the major thing in my life that I have to let go. I can't be in control of that. I'm also not in control of my death.

Right. You know, none of us are. So the biggest thing relationship-wise is like when I talk to you and I hear you say it, it's interesting how we're talking about two of the same things is like it's about your ability, my own ability and everyone's ability to be in the present, to be right now. And understand that like that whole situation you had, the whole relationship that you had, it was all supposed to go exactly that way. 100% like and I know you know that 100% it goes and it also goes back to once again back to

the timing thing dude I think I think every the majority of stuff in life you winners and losers everything is based on the intuition that exists within the person and your gut feeling and and maybe it was the timing maybe it was something else but for whatever reason I wasn't feeling and I always remember when she she asked me to move in and I was I just remember the feeling I had I was like this is not the right move for me you know it's crazy my my relationship of eight years I remember at one point in my heart like in my heart truly in my heart and deep in my mind I remember being like damn this is never going to work out based on weird was like a moment and I just stayed in it this must have been three years in and I

stayed in it for fucking I'm really bad at math another half decade another half a decade and I was just like fuck it dude I just wasn't and like you know she was it luckily she was she knows very much what she wants as well and she obviously wanted to have a kid and she was I'm having a fucking kid. Do you know who the fucking kid is? Yeah, of course, bro. It's just not, you know, it's not public info. Zero.

No, and I mean, people know, like, on the scene, but, like, it's just not talked about. Also, I don't give a shit. It's just not my place to tell. You know what I'm saying? But, okay. No, I mean, we, we, we had been broken up for shit. So you're not the father. No, no, no.

We had been broken up for, like, six. We had been broken up for, like, well, like four or six months at that point. I mean, we, we, we definitely, like, we're still hanging out. We're still hooking up, blah, blah, so forth. but um no but she's uh she's due literally in the next like 30 days uh it's crazy it's exciting she's she's pumped up for it um she's not talking to me right now is why i suck bro i mean dude trust me i know yeah i just suck with like i just suck with like that kind of stuff it's like it's like dude i was putting out videos like even up to recently i'm like here's why you

should be be able to be friends with your ex like dude Not in the first like six months. It's just impossible, bro. Like you end up like hooking up. You shit ends up happening. All the like both people are like all the feelings are off the table. Then one Instagram. Oh my God.

You know what I'm saying? Like it's just it just wasn't going to. It just was not going to work properly. And honestly, it's just for the best right now. Dude, she's got to focus on on that kid. She's going to be a great mother. She's a great person. Yeah.

I'm super caring. And I'm, I'm pumped for. Dude. I just, uh, you know. Does she want you to be in the kid's life at all? I mean she was open to it but honestly dude like just back to the matter at hand like at least at this point of my life dude like I have a problem with women bro like a severe severe like you you know that dude like and I always have bro and it's like that comes down to like some other like deep rooted issue with me that like I just I don't know what it is but like you see me out you know like I think it's just the control thing I think it's just you're you're so much at least what I could identify I know from where you've been in your life and how out of control you were to a point now where you're so you're so in control and you're so success when you have done so much you've gotten so far that I completely

identify with like losing that and like give me someone else control could be like for a relationship you mean yes yeah yeah yeah I mean and and and maybe it does go back to that because the the the way my relationships with girls work now is like there's no you know it's no strings attached you know what I'm saying yeah it's like but it's so but it's so unfit I mean dude it's so unfulfilling bro like i'm not gonna come out here and like bratt like dude i had a i had like a fucking i was out at hide the other night left had like this like crazy fucking like threesome situation with like guys would be like oh that so and i literally didn't even calm i'm like sitting there like dude like this is like what am i doing with my life

if you're sitting there in a sexual situation you're like what am i doing with my life like i'm not these are not brags this is like me just exposing another addiction that exists within myself yeah it's just another situation and It's like, especially like when it's just this, it's just a faucet. Dude, we live in Los Angeles. Like, I don't, like, I don't even have to say anything to show up. Yeah. It's the, it honestly, this city besides drugs has exploited all of my addictions tenfold.

Has made everything more difficult. The city's a shit hole. It's fucking toxic. Cancer is shit. I love it. But, yeah. No, it's, it's, it's, bro, that's part of it. Would you find yourself living anywhere else?

Would you ever see yourself? I have to leave here at some point. Yeah. I mean, I always describe Los Angeles as like a city that's just a little bit too close to the sun. You know what I'm saying? And it feels good for like a certain amount of time. But eventually everybody in this fucking town is going to burn the fuck up, bro. Whether it's via forest fires or like just toxic within themselves.

You know what I'm saying? Like it's like, dude, there's no soul here. There's no fucking. There's no heart. There's nothing, bro. It's a, it's a creative town. I like being here. It makes creating easy.

And I like, you know, the fact that the entertainment industry exists here. But got, bro, it's like, it's where the, it's, I like to say it's the city of lost souls, bro. Yeah. It's where a lot of lost souls, people searching for fulfillment through just garbage. Do you think it's gotten worse because of social media? Because it's even more so a place where like people come and it's like, oh, I know I can come here and I can meet this person and get some videos, get some content, make some content. Well, it's the only so like we, you always talk about like this, the trifecta, right? Of cities.

You got New York, Miami, Los Angeles. Yeah. There's a bunch of other cities. There's Vegas. God forbid anyone ever lived there. Vegas is crazy, dude, keep me out of that city.

But like New York, Miami, Los Angeles. Which one of these three metropolis, am I going to go to in my youth, right? Or not youth. You got New York, which is a city that's almost completely based on status. What family are you from? What's your lineage?

How much money do you have? What do you do for work? You got Miami, which is just how much money do you? Yeah, visibility. How many cars do you have? I don't care if they're rented. Do you have a Lambeau?

What do you have? L.A., dude, clout. Yeah. It is the city of fucking clout. If you have clout in this city, you have whatever the fuck you want. Everybody will try to use you. Everybody will try to fucking bring you into whatever. You want to sit lakes, see a courtside at the Lakers game.

You want to meet this chick that doesn't have, like, dude, it's just a city built around fucking followers. And when I say there's no, there's nothing as, fickle and meaningless as that approach to life i fucking mean that yeah like it's it's bad bro yeah so what if what have you what have you taken away from most of living here like learn what have you learn actually for the most of living here in in relationship to the social social aspect i mean it's i guess it's not as much like proximity learning or like learning based on the city i i'd say it's more applicable applicable to my uh my trajectory and like the life that i have lived here and

And I mean, if you hear it a million times, but like the money's not going to make you happy. It's just not going to, it's just not going to make you feel warmer. It's going to be, you'll feel more secure. Yeah. You're not going to be kicked out of your house. But what happens when you live in a $40 million house and you look around and there's no one there that you want to fucking see? You know what I'm saying? I mean, I love banks.

I love summer. Of course. You know what I'm saying? But like, they're doing their own shit. Of course. You know what I'm saying? I got David there with me. That's great.

he's a he's actually a really good friend that will always be there for me and listen to me and so were the other two um but like you know i had i had a real tight relationship with logan and i had a real tight relationship with with amra and you know in the past year like it from a growth of proximity and just a relationship standpoint as a result of them both moving it's you know it's been tough bro it's tough to lose people that you that you um or to have people move away that you that you that you find solace and and friendship with you know so yeah um just just i guess money's not going to make you happy like and it's just a crazy town yeah let's talk about it's a Logan moving away that that has kind of like fucked your relationship a little bit made it more difficult to maintain because i could tell you this like it's crazy how well i relate to you and how how much i like like like we vibe whenever we get together and talk about anything off camera doesn't even matter right but it's hard for me to even build a relationship with you because you're constantly gone yeah you know so like i'm trying to

understand how that might affect your relationship with load because everyone sees you know you see the podcast you see the content it's which is incredible by the way thank you like but how is it actually the movement it's uh honestly it's weird because me and him obviously even deeper just because we're we go back so far and i've had so much time together kind of like me and you though we're automatic bro like me and that kid could be apart for for 18 months sit back down and like not a day's past you know what i'm saying we're automatic we're like the like That pairing of me and him. I consider that true friendship.

It's amazing. A hundred percent. That's one of the signs of true friendship for sure. And it's good that I'm reminded of that. But it's a, you know, it's, I think it's a little bit tougher on like the career side because we would

always collaborate on new projects. We would always think of like, yo, what's the deal with this business idea? What's like, you know, what are we going to do on the next episode of Impulsive? And right now it's show up and blow up.

I walk into the house in Puerto Rico. You know, he's just getting up. I mean, he's been on a, he's been on a pretty significant bender for the past six or so months and like it's you know like we've we've monitored it we've talked to him to make sure that it's not it's he's he's he's working he's really working and i'm and i'm not saying that it's like he doesn't need to slow down

and start to get a handle on it but dude he he when you say bender you mean like just every bro he's it's like his it's like this year has been his like coming of age you know what i'm saying And it's like, he's like, he's still like, he, he's still like, you know, he was just coming out of like the content grind after being in it's for so long. And this whole, he's, you know, like not too much of this is out, but he, he's been working on a massive project. I mean, he's going to unveil. Today is actually the last day of, of him working on the project. So it's the final day. Can you say what it is?

I will not take any fucking risks with Logan shit on the podcast. This is burn media. This is Bernie in the fucking past. This is going tomorrow. He's definitely, no, no, no. He's talked about some of it, but it's definitely like a digital art project. Okay, so I got two things I've got to ask you off camera when this is done.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I'd rather do that, do it there. But it's a digital art project that he has poured his heart and soul into. And I mean, I really fucking mean that he's put every ounce of seriously blood, sweat, tears. I mean, I've seen it's all documented as well. I mean, I, we have done things this year that, uh, will never be replicated, can never be imagined most, some of it can never be discussed publicly. I mean, we've, we've seen things that this year that are, are, are mind blowing from,

from, uh, every continent to, you know, uh, that, that trip to Iceland was, was a, a, a life changing experience, life changing experience. I mean, and, and, and we've met people. I mean, he's got, you know, he's spent spending time with Dave Chappelle, Drake and, and, and, you You know, I mean, the project, it is, I'm excited for people to see it and to understand what it is. And it's all been a part of this, uh, um, journey, you know, which has, has just been a constant go. And we've been all over the world and we've, so that's been a lot of this traveling to is not just for podcasts. Correct. It's been podcast, the night shift and his project. It's been this like conglomerate.

And I've pulled my own relationships to assist as much as possible and, you know, provide air jets and, uh, and, and housing. pulled every relationship he has to provide people for the project and and it's just been this this wild fucking year that's all coming to this culmination um and and will lead to this unveiling and and like i said it's all documented i mean he's got every second of it on video from you know like um uh smashing his fucking hand in hamburg in germany like you know around fucking Germany's Hells Angels like in the Red Light District of Hamburg with one of the biggest rappers in Germany

to like you know to scaling these mountains of Iceland with Thor to like you know being at the most exclusive club in the entire world at Annabelle in London and running into Drake or having these shows with Dave Chappelle it's all documented it's one it's what he's put together here is one of the most just amazing and thrilling

documents of um is it a documentary i don't know what he's doing with it the core project itself is a digital art project okay okay yeah but it's but it's but there's a lot okay but the back you were saying you're saying he's on a bender what is what is a bender for it what is are we talking about like no drugs okay no drugs no drugs at all and i think there's been like see you know he i remember we did a show and he got like prescribed something for his hand or whatever and people ran with that but he took it for three day he took it exactly how was prescribed yeah whatever but um no just you know the the normalcies of just going out and partying you know like the non extracurriculars just you know having a good

time just party yeah you know and um you know we've uh i've just been there with them and it's and it's and it's led to just some of the most hilarious and and and um just crazy memories that have brought us closer together and um i'm just so excited for him to put to put all of it out and to just release it to the world and he's so pumped for it so I think I think within the next month or so, he'll have an announcement. That'll be dope. Yeah. So beyond that, as far as your relationship with him, the distance, has that gotten, has it made it worse?

Has it made it better? Um, you know, it's allowed me to, to continue to flourish. I think, I think, you know, I've always tried to make sure that I wasn't just Scotty Pippen to Jordan. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I know I'm not. You know, the people that really fuck with my content, no, it's not. Like those are, he, he has done so.

many tremendous things for me and I owe everything to him. I owe everything to him. Um, and, you know, between him and Amra, they brought so many eyes on and introduced so many people to the funnel. But I know what's, I know, I know, you know, my worth. I know it's good. I know I got the talent for it. I got the hard work and, and, and, you know, I'm super creative and can write and can podcast and can blog, whatever it is, right? Yeah. But, um, but, um, I think just kind of like being away from him has allowed me to continue to figure out my lane a little bit more and to really like understand like who I am you know what I'm saying and so and that's what I want to figure out like where are you going with this I want to know where you're going

yeah it's all it's all it's all kind of like in process right now like I think probably like I've been saying this and it's all it's all uh always kind of being curated but I think like agency we'll probably sign with an agency on I think that I've started I was just talking about earlier. I've started to at least explore the idea of a second book, which is, I'll just, I'll just say it. Right now, I'm playing with the idea of a book that's a very chaotic, um, uh, eccentric mix of lessons that I've learned through experiences from both the bottom of this world to the very, very top of this world. That's dope. And so like, it could be like lessons on like young love. It could be lessons on the toxicity of Los Angeles. It could be lessons on

psilocybin it could and so what I want people to be able to do is open the book to any page read three pages hear a crazy story hear my learning and then have something to apply to their lives yeah right now it's just like tentatively called like what I've learned but I'm sure it'll be something I'm sure I'll niche it out a little bit more so funny we're talking about this book but I'm genuinely meaning like where are you at in your life you what you mean what I mean about every see when you ask you that it always comes down a career shit no no no I'm not asking that's the thing it's like I'm obsessed I'm obsessed I'm obsessed That's the thing you answer, like, yeah, well, I got this book.

No, I just mean like if we're, so for example, if you're writing a book and it's about things you've learned in your life, right? That's what I'm trying to figure out. At this point in your life, in your age and your career, your relationship status or not business, content, whatever you're making, where are you at as a human? Like, what have you really learned at this moment, like that you could say if you, if you, if I'm going to make it like, you know, I say one thing to sum it all up because that's stupid. But I really want to understand what you've learned to this point that is really. changed in you over the last, let's say five years, like something if you gave something over the last five years that really changed in you. Because like, we think we know how it should be or what it should be or where we should

go, right? And I know, for example, I grew up thinking, oh, life is going to be like this. And when I'm this age, I'll have this. And when I'm that age, I'll have that or I'll have made it. I'll have figured it out. And I'm 32 now. And I remember this is when I was like 12, 16 years old thinking about when I'm 30, I have this.

And I don't have shit figured out, man. I don't have anything figured out. I think it's so important to let people know that. I'm still trying every day wake up and be like, what am I going to get done today? Yeah. And yeah, maybe I'm like more than normal like as trying to achieve things or because people see shit on the internet that it's there or not. But I'm still so like not clueless, but I'm still so I don't even want to call it. I mean, I guess it's directionless.

I have a idea. The word's lost. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And like honestly like, bro, trust me, I can relate to that. And and I think that that feeling of of being lost in your teenage years, your adolescence, your early adulthood is so horrifying. You're so scared.

You're like, what am I going to fucking do? When am I going to get my purpose? When am I going to know what it is that I want? When am I going to meet my soulmate? When, when, when, when, when, when? And you're looking for all these concrete dates as to when all that stuff's going to happen.

Yeah. And in reality, by the time you get into your 30s, the one thing you fully understand is, I need to get comfortable with the idea of being lost in this life, bro. Because it doesn't really ever get perfect. it never gets even close to perfect like like things have never never that's why I said it I want to bring it up is like everyone has this misconception that like when you you know look at someone like you or someone like Logan or someone like me not that we're all on the same level or not I'm just saying like success wise I have the things I want the cars that I could get any car I could have the house that I want um you know have a hard time with you know getting the exact all the women I want um in the way that I want them right but it's like you might look at me and be like oh this guy's got it but yeah I really don't man and we are all just kind of lost in a way we're like we kind

of are refining ourselves every day which is funny I think it comes back to the same thing about being present and learning to be more present with where we're at because truly truly genuinely if we say we want to go there right well the only way to get there is where are you at right now today and everyone goes this is the most classic thing people do they go I don't know how I got here I don't know how I got here it's like motherfucker like what like this is one of the most interesting things to me that people have this concept like even people who find themselves not with like you know they wake up and have terrible news about some sort of illness right like virgil i'm so it's like you you don't get yourself to that

situation that that gets to you right but in in life like we tend to for example let's say someone who died of a heart attack because of you know let's they're young and they shouldn't have died but then they all these moments of maybe drug abuse led to that moment uh or the unhealthy habits led to that moment we're so naive thinking that like right now in the moment present we're invincible. I'm invincible and I'm never going to die and I'm only going to get better and that like we're sometimes unaware

or I don't know if it's misaware of like the fact that all the actions that we're taking are actually leading to that point where like you said someone goes and sorry like I said someone goes I don't know how I got here and it's so interesting to me like and I find myself doing that sometimes and I'm like how did I get here? I also think like in this day and age

and back to being present people are spending so much fucking time on their phones and thinking about other things that aren't the things that are happening right now that they're not even because bro like

and by the way this is me adding myself me at me this is me talking to myself people will be like yo like what was the standout thing that happened in your life last week in the last seven days

I'll go I don't remember a single thing that happened like dog I don't even know what I ate for fucking lunch today because you can even take it to this I've been scrolling it because like you're not present and like bro you have to you need to have that time like the reason i can answer the question

of what of how i got to where i am today is because i sat at a table for seven fucking years and wrote it into a book that cemented every single fucking move that i made and so so now that shit's like concrete muscle memory how'd you fucking get here i'll give you the whole story right now i'm not going to because everybody everybody knows right right but like people don't spend five seconds compartmentalizing or like even thinking of the things that just happened because they're so busy either thinking about how they're going to get a picture or what's going to happen next yeah you what's i mean they give you guys a really small example you get in your car and drive somewhere you've you've driven before and and how do you ever you know that feeling

when you're you're you're on your phone and then you get to the place and you're like oh what the fuck yeah yeah how did i even get here it's like so it's like you're we're so unpresent like we're just so fucking, but that's what I want this whole thing to be about. This podcast, what I really want to talk to you about was like, where in your life have you found ways, like, or things that have showed you that allowed you to become more present in your life? That's what I'm trying to understand. Because, like, you have obviously vast knowledge about so many different things. You're, you're super fucking creative. You've obviously lived in an incredible life and you've gone out to a point where, like, people will look and be like, yeah, what this guy's done is

amazing. But right now at this moment in your life at the age you are and all the things that, you know, people you know they see of you or they hear of you or like you've been joking earlier like we were we were before we even got on camera we were talking about streaming and not doing streaming anymore because you're like oh i just my personality i'll just say some shit and then it'll be on a fucking blog somewhere and it's so interesting to me so what what have you learned about being present though like what what are you practicing yeah i mean i think like you know it's always been really tricky for me because even before social media i've always had an overactive mind. My mind is a, is a chaotic, you know, circus, uh, freak show at times. You know what I'm

saying? And like, depending on the day, it could be, it could be a great show to be a part of or it could be the worst horror movie you've ever seen in your life. You know what I'm saying? And like, today was a really, I told you, you know, I didn't come on the show yesterday because I was having a rough day and I woke up this morning. I was like, damn, it's even worse. I was like, shit, I wish I did the show yesterday. But then I said to myself, I was like, yo, um, When I sit with Bradley, I feel like I'm sitting with my therapist. You know what I'm saying? Like you just,

you have this thing about you that's able to make people feel so fucking comfortable. And honestly, it's inspirational. It's something that I aspire to. And I feel like I have it as well. Yeah. And, and,

you know, it was something that I had to use in episodes with like Mike Tyson and Shapiro. And they were like very crazy episodes that needed to be wrangled. And I would look in the eyes of the guest and could feel that connection. And it would be me staring at the guest for extended periods of time. Because I feel like I have that. same report building um quality i've been to a lot of therapy yeah same so maybe it's something i've learned along the way yeah yeah but um not being present i i make jokes about it all the time

but for some reason the water dude being near the water i don't i don't know what it is i and i know this is so not applicable that everybody watches like oh let me just go to the fucking water right like i don't know what it is even if you could find time to just spend like or me personally if i can spend like 30 minutes a week even in like the water in a pool in a I always make the joke about a lazy river like it's always been a thing everybody that watches my content religiously knows about my my obsession with lazy rivers because when I'm on that tube and I'm floating there's just something about like the natural current and me not having to do anything and I just feel so relaxed and I ease in that moment and and they say that water has the that capability yeah that

therapeutic and cathartic you know and you put dogs with arthritis into the water and they stop you know being in pain and stuff so um i think that uh exercise but more than anything it's just yo leave your phone somewhere like put your phone away like when i go out my the the one place where i could hit my flow my flow state is uh on my bike and we've talked about this a million times and i and a million times i've been it's always been my fault so i'm not yeah yeah you're gonna go rise come with me to get a bike and i'm like yeah yeah this week and then you hit me up and i'm in Shanghai, you know what the fuck is getting? Oh my God. But like dude, just being on the bike and just feeling that breeze. So that's great. By the way, it's been like seven, eight, maybe like, no,

it's actually been a year. I think it's going to talk about doing that. It doesn't matter. I don't go fuck. I saw. I really saw it. Be too, though, man. Yeah. You know what's funny. When I, when I think about it, man, the, like the thing with the bike, I, I like, I don't know. I have so many moments like that too where I'm like, fuck, man. I, you know, things I think I'm supposed to do with a person and I fucking, I don't know, I get so caught up in all the other shit that I'm trying to figure out.

And that's what I'm saying. I just keep trying to come back to this conversation about trying to be fucking present. And, you know, it's interesting. You mentioned riding your bike or like being near water in water or being in the lazy river. Obviously I directly relate like the gym

is my like kind of escape. But I think the thing is, it's like a form of meditation. It's all, it's what it all comes back down to. Yeah. I mean, that's what it boils down to. It's like, yo, where are the places were right 100% the hippies were right like what is it that's going to put you in a place where you can simply breathe and and stop thinking about other shit and just and just it's all all happiness dude like honestly at the end of the day is rooted in gratitude you know what i'm saying like yeah like dude when i when i when i i talked to a billionaire the other day who said this i was i had this whole conversation about where i'm at my life and he's like the more you could be grateful for the things that you have and show that you're grateful for the things you have the more you're going to keep getting straight up it's like it's like it's like it's like

it's like you um you you get into this habit of saying i have to do this today i have to do this today i have to go to work today yeah i have to go to the construction site i used to have to pick up dog shit because i worked at a fucking dog park you know what i'm saying you get to do that stuff you get to not yeah be in a hospital bed today you get to not be unemployed today you get well to go to the gym to work out and to not have uh amputated limbs today You get to live another day without cancer You get to hug to go spend time With your family at Thanksgiving dinner

That you said you had to go to No, you get to do that shit You're lucky as fuck to get to do that shit You're lucky to just wake up in the morning Take one breath Because there's a lot of people that didn't today It's a lot of people that didn't wake up today And take that breath

And there's families out there that are like Damn I wish I had that person in my life There's you know what I'm saying So that's what this comes down to That's the crazy part about this It comes down to perspective And it's hard It's hard because when people are in those moments

right and they live their life and they say I have to go do this shit because their bills packed up their bills packed up and they knew they have they have to pay these things off right yeah and again I hate that I keep being that guy on his podcast right now but it does come about to being present right straight up I hate that I'm doing that I really mean that because listen if you go like this I have to do this I have to do this I have to do this it's like you got yourself into that position somehow right and it's hard for us to go like how did I get here that's so it's funny how we keep talking about all these things but I'm asking about you like how did you get here but anyways point is this to people listening it is like like Mike is saying um wherever you're

at in your life and whatever you're trying to get done or if you're trying to get out of some job or find a new job start and I and I truly stand by this statement start being grateful for the things that you're doing no matter how like how dumb or how stupid it feels or how much you don't want to do it be grateful that like this is just a moment in your life because if you genuinely want to get to the next moment that you think like I should be doing that or I could be doing that or I could be doing this and I would be happier. The only way you're going to get there is by being grateful for the shit you're in right now. And that's the fucking ironic part. Like the craziest thing to me is how people are constantly looking outwards to like where

they're not out yet. And they just constantly focus on that picture that's like in the pick in like the, you know, way back there. And it's called in the fucking green room over here that I joked about also being a sex room, which obviously is not. But we're talking about He has a whole green guy. Yeah, I got a whole green room. But we're like looking over there and I'm like, man, it would be so great if I was over there. It would be so amazing if I was over there. I don't have to do this shit here.

But it's like, look, motherfucker. The only way you get over to that room there or that bad picture over there is where you are right fucking now. And start making the changes in your life that you think you need to make that you've been avoiding because it's too hard or it's too difficult or it's uncomfortable or because you've got to let go of control or like all these things that you're not allowing yourself to do. and you want it so bad but you don't allow yourself to be there and then you put this picture

and you're constantly like fuck man I gotta go do this dumb shit that I don't want to do and this all comes back to the same fucking thing about being present and understanding that guys if you want more out of your life you have to be present

in the dumb shit that you're doing now that maybe you just perceived to it as being dumb or you found yourself there and another thing that comes along with this is accepting responsibility for the fact that you are where you are not because of someone else not because of something else

but because of yourself it's all personal responsibility And so that's what I keep trying to talk to you about. I'm like, man, I want to understand it. It's so funny. And then we talk and you're so good at talking about, and not, not that you're avoiding anything, but you're like so good. I love this guy.

No, I do. I do. I'm a big avoider, bro. I told you, I'm a runner. What do you think you avoid the most? Anything that requires discipline or structure. You know what I'm saying? And honestly, like, that's, that's like one of my big, big.

downfalls that's one of my big because I literally could I could be I could be up with the top at the top the very top because I have the talent for it I got the personality for it I have more than anything people like still don't understand so I've been preaching about it for fucking years I have the positive energy and the smile you know what I'm saying like I swear to God did I tell people that shit all the time not only do you need to trust the process and understand that the things that you're doing in your life right now are the building blocks for what you're going to have in the future yeah but you need to be approaching situations with positive energy because that is what people want to be around.

If you cannot bring positivity to a situation, you are setting yourself up for failure immediately. And it's that thought is so counter to social media. Social media is the most negative fucking place on the planet. These kids out there think it's cool to like troll people. They're out there trolling like making jokes, talking shit about people's bodies, talking shit about people's past talking shit about heroin about this about that not realizing that they're they're creating a habit for themselves to be negative people who will go nowhere in life yeah who will literally go nowhere and and and being someone who has come through the stuff that you're talking about the job that I didn't want plus all of the other things bro there's so many micros that people

watching this would never know about me i can't i can barely walk on this ankle you you probably know this i mean i've severe severe arthritis i noticed that when you're right tragic yeah like it is 10 out of 10 fucking pain bro at all times i i have to do something about it another thing i'm running from you know what i'm saying i have to get fusion surgery they have to take the ankle joint out of my leg i'll have no ankle fuck and they'll fuse my leg to my foot and and and that's just how it goes how the story goes it was broken in a robbery in 2008 it happened and And I have to deal with it. But not only do I have to deal with it,

but I have to deal with it in a positive fucking manner and smile and show up and make people feel like I'm not a fucking drag, bro. Because that's got to be hard. It's so hard, bro. But it doesn't matter. That's like the biggest. That's the biggest thing. And like, it is, it is so hard.

We just talked about this on the, on the show last week. And Logan was like, dude, that's, that's like impossible for most people. You know what I'm saying? To like, bro, like every day I would wake up. up in that house and know that I had to go down to do impulsive even on days when I was having panic attacks getting out of bed and then try to walk across the room on this fucking you know what I'm saying but like I think that it comes down to perspective and and and and to be present but no but to but to perspective and and and and and gratitude for for the things that

you do have and the things that are going right in your life yeah and more than anything and more than anything, it's showing up. And I don't know, I don't know what it was because I obviously missed a lot of life's lessons as a kid. I obviously like didn't get the, my dad tried with the discipline. He tried with a lot of things. But one thing that I did learn early was show the fuck up. Always show up.

There's no excuse. And this has been a tough topic this year with a lot of Olympians saying, you know, I can't go. I can't show up today because my, my mental illness is too, is too trying on me. It's something that I've had to have balanced conversation around and try to empathize for the situation. What was the main gymnast? I feel like such an idiot. Oh, fuck.

Does anyone remember, whatever? You guys know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't feel like an idiot. But she couldn't show up for press. Simon. I can't remember the fucking last name. Anyways.

Biles, I think. Yeah, Biles, yeah. She couldn't show up for press because she was having an. issue with her anxiety and stuff like that and so it's I think there's a balance there and I understand that and I've I've had my moments but but you know that when I walk off the show sweating my ass is fucking coming back yeah you know you know that because it happened here it happened here right before the first episode and I had to leave and I had to go in the bathroom and I had to fucking deal with that shit bro and my nerves and the anxiety and the panic bro

and then I came back here and delivered one of the best fucking episodes I've ever done yeah you know what I'm saying so like people need to need to show up bro you need to show up and you need to show up with a with a with an attitude that is that is conducive to collaborative effort well that's what it's about like I say we keep talking about the same shit again I'm in that guy talking about being present but like in order for you to genuinely succeed at whatever the fuck you're trying to do is do a podcast episode have a good conversation with a girl talk to your friend that you have to have an issue with or talk to a boss or a loved one or a fan like you have to bring your best self to it even when you might feel like shit shit like just straight up i know it's like it's it's oh it's so much easier said than done but really genuinely think about this if you want something out of your life if you want something out of a relationship if you showed up and you were like ah the shit's not going to work out well it's much much more likely that it's not going to work out and so people tend to go into situations like that and this is the crazy thing we're talking about being present again though in social media people base their own success off of like a person

Receive success of someone else which out under without understanding what actually goes into that person's success And the reason why I I I the biggest thing to me when I go into when I go into like shows or the whole point of me in this this show and what I think about when I try to get into And maybe to some people listening might sound like you know dumb or like fucking Like I'm repetitive sometime and by nature in the questioning but I'm trying to figure out with people specifically you in this situation right now like how did you get to where you're at and what and how like you found yourself in this situation? and what you've learned, because people can relate to you in so many different levels. But I want to make that known that, like, guys, if you really want something out of your life,

like Mike is saying, like I'm trying to say, you have to go into it with a positive mentality. But if you're, and this is the thing I'm trying to figure out by talking to you is like, if we're so sucked into our fucking phones all the time, and this is the thing we're going to talk about, I'm going to ask you about this whole metaverse shit in a second,

but we're so sucked into our phones. And it seems like we're only going further and further into this, like, level of, integration of technology in humans, which I think at some point, like we're basically going to be like a part of like robots are a part of humans. Yeah, cyborers. Like hybrids. So it's like how to fuck are we, is our, is our exact like the way we interact the way, it's going to be completely different. I think this is a part of the beginning of this change that like it is hard for us to be present like as a fucking human. And it's, it's, I'm not saying

this is like a, I mean, it is kind of a terrible thing. But it's, um, it's, um, It seems like it seems like it is. And the only thing that I can say about is I have seceded. I have I have said, you know what? Like this is happening. And I fought it for so long, dude. I was like, dude, this is bad. Bro, suicide rates are up.

Body dysmorphia is up. You know, kids having low self-esteem is up. We know what the phones are doing. We Facebook knows what the phones are doing. All that shit's up. And I want to talk about testosterone later too. Oh, yeah, of course. because I know there's some people watching that.

I have a whole conversation. But, but, um, but we know what's happening. Yeah. It's no surprise, but it's happening. It is fucking happening. And it's like, it's like, what are we going to do? Be like, what we just show up like Terminator at the, at the Verizon offices be like, yo, like this isn't okay.

What the fuck are they going to say? Right. But this is the thing that's making us less present. Yeah, 100%. So you got to, so you got to try to, you got to try to come up with micro solutions to that issue. Yeah. From a, from a macro standpoint, that's, that issue will not be. solved. That issue will continue to follow the capitalist structure that it's going to happen.

It's going to happen. Yeah. And metaverse is an example of it. You know what I'm saying? And as a millennial on the edge of booming, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm not even that far out from it. Like I hate the shit. I think it's disgusting. I think it's fucking stupid. And I've leveraged clout and social media for my grand scheme of storytelling and being creative and success in my career. But I I fucking hate all this shit. I think it's the most surface level bullshit. Yeah. Dumb shit ever, ever, bro.

Like, corny as fuck, dude. Like, luckily, I've always been able to stay in my own lane and my content. I just say turn the camera on. I don't, I'm not out here like, yo, I'm, no offense to anybody that's filling their pool with orbies. But like, I'm not doing that shit. I'm showing up and saying, yo, I flew this chick out, film it. I think this cheeseburger is the best cheeseburger in the fucking city. Film it.

Yeah. Like, like, this is how, this is, I'm just showing you how I live. Yeah, yeah. That's it. And by the way, trying to infuse some value. There's not much on the night shift. It's basically pure entertainment. Yeah.

The values coming from podcasts. For sure. Impulsive. But like, social media is corny, dog. It is so whack, bro. Like, like, there's no, I mean, shit, they automated creativity with TikTok. They said, you can't think of an idea. Here's a trend and a sound.

Just follow up. Go, go make a face. That's real. And you could be a creative genius too. You literally just put this sound in and it makes it like factually just guys listening. Like it will make your, you will get more views on that content because it's a trending sound. 100% straight up. And then there's, I don't think there's ever been a cornyer time to be in the creative set.

It's, it's, it's and I, and I hate to sound like that like Debbie Downer. Yeah. But like, dude, I think people know that. Meanwhile, we're talking about being really positive. Yeah, yeah. No, man, I was like, no, I get it. But I think, but I think, now listen. Now on that same note.

There is a small subset of creatives who have done a great job. I mean, dude, Mr. Beast is a phenom. Yeah. Mr. Beast is a genius amongst mortals. And by the way, Logan has a good amount of storytelling success as well that that is deserving of respect. And how many views in a hundred plus million? Let's stick on Bees for a second. I mean, shit, he pulled, what was it?

It was like a hundred million views in the first week. Yeah, I think he has a hundred and fifteen million views. He did 42 million. about the squid games video obviously he did uh 42 million views at the first 24 hours i mean he he's just operating on a level that no one else is no one's even close he's willing to take risk and put money i wonder how much money he put into that he said it was about three and a half to four billion dollars i mean we're talking about we're talking about movie budgets yeah yeah like he's he got sets built and yeah yeah this dude is this dude's operating on another on another

spectrum and so it's like don't don't allow me to boil social media as a whole down to this corn porn ball shit but i mean the majority the majority of it is is a tragedy and and and the worst part about it is these people will waste their lives creating garbage jumping on dicks on trends on on on bullshit and not focusing on pursuits that can make the money or pursuits that can they're like yo i got 8000 on instagram so i'm gonna fucking i'm gonna do it uh uh uh uh um a real every day to a sound pop and locking it dog go out and really think about what you're saying right now. So this shit is not for everybody.

And we talked about it earlier. We said every kid wants to grow up to be a creator. There's going to be a lot of fucking sad kids, dude. There's going to be a lot of sad adults that are like, shit. I can't even get a fucking dollar right now because I was trying to be a YouTuber or whatever. I'm not saying don't follow your dreams, but you got to be realistic about opportunity and about what you have. And also, no, don't just say, oh, well, it's going to be hard, so I'm not going to do it. what you're going to do instead.

Yeah. What is your strength? What's your true strength? You know, like stop making TikToks because you're a phenom on the piano. Stop, stop making shorts on YouTube because you're nasty at cooking. You know what I'm saying? And I think, too, just in this space in general, like overall,

the people who are going to succeed and continue to succeed, like I said earlier even, are the people who are more in touch with like not necessarily making this kind of content, but just themselves. And because that's the thing like we talk about TikTok as a whole. I love that. I think it's amazing. There's tons of cool content.

there but like like you're saying there's tons of actual just like regurgitation of everything so it's like if you're constantly think about this as a content creator if you're making your content based on what everyone else is doing then you're constantly one step behind right and it's not a genuine story of you and in the same thing like even people who you know build their content up around negativity like people who just make content about you know drama or whatever and it's like you're constantly oh we know quite a few of those channels yeah and generally the commentary community Yeah, I'm not going to say name any names, but like the commentary community is like, it took me so long to like be okay with it. Yeah, to be okay with it.

It took me like two years, but now like I quite literally could give a fuck what any of these people. They, they do like, if this, then that. Like, oh, he said this. So then this is happening. And the audience is like, he's so right. Yeah. Meanwhile, these motherfuckers know nothing. Yeah.

They know absolutely nothing about anything. So you just, you have to just look at him and be like, okay. all of these like investigative channels and commentary channels they're just doing the same thing as everybody else they're just trying to survive make money so i say kudos to them make your money but but it's on the responsibility is on the viewer of those channels to be like wow i can't believe they were able to pull that shit out of their fucking ass because they don't know shit they know nothing yeah literally nothing

there was a whole thing that went down i didn't want to get into that shit i was going through it all year i was going through it all year and i think and i think like you know I'm not going to say the name of any organizations or any, any channels on the investigative side. But like, you know, I think there, the outcome from that was the right one in some areas. Yeah. Um, I think that the core issue that was being dealt with, uh, this is just slippery stuff because I want to, I want to dive into it. But, but, but, but there was a lot there was a lot there as well. I'll just say that was equally just not knowing what the fuck they were talking about.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I mean, there is a large to just, just to sum it up. I'll say there is, I mean, for the people watching this kind of stuff or just that kind of content in general, this is the simplest thing to understand. Just as much as I do a video, for example, like let's say with Steve will do it, right? Because I know Steve will do it. It was massively trending is massively trending on YouTube.

And if I put his name in a title, I'll get more views. Absolutely. Or someone puts my name in a title with Steve or something like they're going to get more views. This is also how those people made money. It was getting views. So without, without. without doing any actual collaboration with the person, but instead, you know,

maybe picking apart what a person is doing could allow them to then put them in the title and create revenue. It's, it's, so you call it, call it what you want, but at the same time, I just remember seeing all this and be like,

oh, this is interesting. Like people literally base their content around other people to make money while telling their audience though that other people that, oh, that person's a bad guy because he did that to make money, but it's like, oh, but I could.

Well, I mean, listen, like I think at the end of the day, like, you know, we're all, we're all, um, marketing our content, however we see the most outcome, the right, right, right. But I sit here next to you and I go, I did a podcast with, with Mike and I say, okay, this is my title and this is what it's about. And we're here together. Right. First, like, it's like the almost like the person on the outside who's like, well, I'm not in those situations. So let me, let me do whatever I can get. Right. You know, to just put that name. Like back to that exact

situation there's a there's a competitive organization company that does the exact same thing exact same business model for for both of the comparative companies right but they use people like george cluny who by the way gets no clicks on youtube who do you think they're going to say was involved in a scandal of course do you know what i'm saying like they're just going to title and put whoever they can in the thumbnail to drive views yeah because then after that video comes out they got to go back to 60,000 views, 80,000 views. They want those videos that they put out to pop us, so they're going to do it. So that's the only perspective I'm drawing is drawing the perspective of like just as much as like someone saying X, Y, Z, whatever.

Be it wrong, not wrong, just a moral, moral, not a moral, whatever. Their whole intention is to make money. But what they don't realize is that, because I click me, we all do. We all do it. That's the name of the game. Yeah. Except when we do it, we're not putting. the reputation and lives of people at stake in doing so yeah like dude i i've seen some rampant

shit this year that was fucked up that put people that did not deserve to be put in the fucking crosshairs in the crosshairs yeah it's fucked up it really is fucked up and i think i think the people that do that stuff and that community really has to um brush aside some of their own morals and ethics to say yo i'm gonna fuck this person's life up without definitive proof in doing so yeah it's fucked up and that's so that's the thing it's like that's like part of the double edge It's like, all right, so you can destroy, you're like, you're willingly, like, where it's almost reminds me of, I don't even want to get into it, but like the COVID shit. I don't even want to talk about it. We can't even talk about this shit.

Ironically, I don't have to cut this bill. No, no, no, no. I mean, you caught whatever you want. I don't give a shit about it. Yeah, I don't. But I've hit, I've hit my saturation point with that, too. I'm just, I'm just, I don't even know what to say more. I've, what about the new variant.

Just leave it a while. I, I hear, here's the one thing I will say, Los Angeles has lost its way. Yeah, with that. And you know better than. Oh, I know. Well, hold on. I know. Hold on.

Let me say this. I have been the best little sheep. I have been the best little sheep. I wore my mask the whole time. They said go get the vaccine. I got both fucking doses. I have been that little sheep because you want to know why it was the same thing as like openly discussing like written. Like all of those things that pop up.

I don't give a fuck. I have a million other fucking things going on. I knew they were going to start. I knew they were going to start putting the fucking hammer down if you didn't follow the rules. So I said, you know what? Fuck it. I'm just going to fucking do the shit. And I'm not, by the way, I'm not saying everybody should apply to your lives. I'm not saying any, like, do whatever the fuck you are. Here's where I'm starting to run into an issue in Los Angeles. Yeah. I'm double vaxed. I get a PCR every fucking three days for travel or production shit. And I'm still wearing a mask in the gym. Yeah. Where I, but, but, but not to the club where I impact like a sardine with a million fucking people without vaccines, vaccinations. But when I go to the gym and show my double vacs and my PCR from the day earlier, they're like, can you pull your mask up all the way over your nose please while I'm running out of a treadmill dying.

I just can't do it. Like bro, like Los Angeles has like every other state I believe is is operating under some form of common sense. It's like, yo, oh, your double Vax, come on it. We feel like that's a good enough solution for the situation. Maybe don't sit too close to everybody, whatever, give people a little bit of space. Los Angeles is like, oh, your double Vax, wear your mask to the gym, even when you're in a room with no one else doing fucking calisthenics. But when you get to the club around 60,000 people take the shit off and sneeze on each other.

Yeah. What the fuck is going on here? No, it's, this is the, it's sad, man. It's just genuinely sad. It's also sad when I got to the end, I'm getting to the end of line completely with this now and it's like I thought after doing what I was supposed to like they're telling me I was going against what they were saying I figured like I'd be like locked up or some shit at the end of the line and they're like hey like we'll just you know right

we good I'm like okay I don't think there's a salute like dude Los Angeles has a lot of weird and zany you know laws and I don't want to and I don't want to get into like vaccine efficacy I don't want to get into any of that bullshit but it just seems like right now we're a little bit over layered in the city like but then also underlayer like it doesn't make any sense it's it's felt that way for a long time it really has man speaking of shots i want to get into this before i forget and then i want to keep going and just get into whatever else you have dude okay so i'm 36 uh and i obliterated my like central nervous system my brain with heroin acid crack everything under the song right

yeah and i think like i realized like probably my like late 20s that my like sex draw even though like I'm I'm clearly good we're talking about testosterone now yeah yeah let's go okay here we go so like I realized that like I was like foggy my mind was foggy I was like kind of down trot all the time like I've always kind of been like that but like even more so and like sometimes like I was just like not really like my libido is a little bit lower and like wasn't like getting that that workout in the gym so I started to look around at my peers in my age group and you know I'm like oh shit like Rogan's taking takes test

HRT yeah and wait you take test wait he takes test he called it the fountain of youth like what what the fuck is good you know what I'm saying so like maybe like three four months ago I started having someone

stick a needle on my ass at a doctor's office obviously let's go and I started taking like I think like what is like a half a like it's like a point five yeah it depends how much normally like HRT sells we're like 200

so yeah so you're taking like half an ML what yeah how many times a week once and they were like it's not enough that's what they said to me they're like you should be taking more right but i was i'm very skeptical especially when needles are involved yeah yeah and i get it so like so um i started taking it and dude like my sex drive was like crazy bro like i because i was not low t like when they tested me uh i was at like a 520 or something like that's that's almost low yeah because they were like but at your but that's like that's even kind of low for 36 but we want to get

you back to like 24 25 range on your test right so um dude i get this shit i'm like dude i'm animal all of a sudden like i'm just like laying crazy pipe like i'm in the gym i'm like i'm bench dressing like 800 000 pounds like i'm like a fucking psychopath right so so and like my moods better like i just feel better yeah and uh and and and and then like bro i'll be like traveling and like i'll be like oh shit i was supposed to go get that other shot seven days ago you know what I'm saying you got to be consistent with this yes I know so as I told you earlier structure and discipline are not my strong suits but bro like so when I woke up today it had been like 16 days since I got my last shot oh you're fucking I know so when I woke up so

here's my question go ahead do I want to layer in that uh that like other pill that regulates your natural uh production or regulate your estrogen levels you're talking about other pill yeah there's like a pill that you take that like that like will help make sure you're body still keep you know what it's called because normally that'd be like hcg yeah that's and that's what everybody was saying so hcg like if you're taking low enough testosterone then you could also include hcg because that will keep you kind of like your nuts fuller yeah keep your bodies like i just have been like nervous about just like all these like things like no man these are it's so fucking normal right especially at the age and if you're starting to feel that way

for sure but i'm gonna just do this shit forever yeah yeah yeah but you're not you're not taking like body you're not trying to be a bodybuilder that's a I am. Maybe I'm here to make an accident today. Tomorrow I'm going to 2 million meters. No, no, no. So that's the thing, right? No, no.

Fucking go nuts. That's the thing. Like the HRT is not that, right? It's not bodybuilding doses. It's like mood, libido. It's just the whole point of it is to get you to like a point where you feel amazing. Yeah. And you don't, you know, you're not taking so much.

You're like, I'm so concerned about building muscle mass. You're just trying to be as healthy as possible at your age. Yeah, facts. And that will start to, you know, as you get older, you might need a little more or a little The last, the most important thing behind this is, is actively getting your blood work done and seeing what's going on. I haven't done that. I haven't done that.

Yeah. So I could be, I could be at like a 1,200 right now. Yeah. Well, I think you're probably extremely low right now if you said you haven't taken it for like, oh, I got it today. Yeah. And this morning I felt like shit. Now I'm like getting back into the groove.

Yeah. It was like perfect. So you'll notice too. So I don't know. Obviously, I don't know anything about like your blood work. I mean, you could send me this stuff and I can look at afterwards. Yeah, I love that. But it's like the things that will start to happen will be like, you know, your estrogen might

start rising and stuff like other things and there's obviously you know your doctors whatever who prescribed things you will say oh you can do this to do that but yeah any i'm i'm i'm i'm happy to look at it help yeah it's for sure but no it's it's bro it's life fucking changing it has i mean dude it's definitely been in the bedroom bro like yeah like it's just been like had way more like just stammer you're warrior bro yeah exactly yeah but also just with mood and stuff like that it's definitely made me a little bit more clear-minded that's just something that i've struggled with a lot um as a result of like the drugs and like the abuse that I did to my body and my like my adolescence is like that foggy mind yeah and like

that's why that's why like writing for me has always been my strongest suit because I can take the thoughts and I can take time with them and I can take time to put them on a page and that's why like the first book just exploded yeah and honestly we was it out when I came on last time I think it had just come out bro that thing is that's the best selling book to come out of the creator space yeah oh I'm not surprised I mean dude it's I I'm literally like in shocked. Because I haven't dropped mine yet. 100%. No, I'm fucking with you. No, I'm fucking with you. But like, but like the people, bro, like that's like the thing that like makes me feel safe

in my life having known that I did something that will stay on the test of time. You know what I'm saying? Like I remember when I put it out. I was like, damn, dude. Like if I sell, you know, 120 copies of this shit, dude, I'm going to be screaming. Like, oh, I got, 120 people know the intimate details of my life. And it's like I sold 200,000 copies in the past fucking like in in the first like year that like the audio book and the book combined it's just been like it's amazing I'll go to restaurants or go to um you know restaurants or like or like airports and stuff people will walk out of the closet would it be like I brought this to work every day hoping that you'd come in you change my life you saved my life like we were just talking about

it earlier like like it's just crazy to to just like know that just so many people have read it I mean that's the thing like all this type of just content in general the thing that I've I've I've been, you know, the bodybuilder guy, the worker guy, lift the, lift the girls do the crazy shit. But the best response and what I've always felt most fulfilled was when people be like, yo, they saw the episode with me and you, they saw the video where I talked about my father. They saw the, you know, years ago when I talked about this or that, that's always been

the thing that is, is giving me purpose now. Once I started to see that and realize that, I was like, whoa, this is, this is where I want to go closer towards. Like, this is what I want to do more of. Yeah, absolutely. If I'm going to keep making content, I want it, I want to feel that. Absolutely. I don't want to just be about, you know, oh, I lifted this chick up to get views and

And like, yeah, I know I did that in the past, but like, I realized that that was fun because you got people in. And I knew that you needed that to get people in. But the thing that always made me feel like, well, I felt good is when I'm sitting, I'm reading those comments on YouTube and I'm like, someone's talking about their life or saving their life or all the interactions I've had with people that, like, straight up said they didn't kill them. I've had so many.

It's nuts. I've met people. People flew out here. So it's like that's always the most fulfilling thing. And that's what gives me true, genuine, like, purpose in my life. And there's not, there's not that many people in the space that can say that. There's not that like you know what I'm saying like there's always going to be a fan out there of like a creator and they're going to be like oh like your ability to make me laugh and I'm not downplaying that your ability to make me laugh like help you with my anxiety and I see that in my own comments sometimes or like maybe forget about the world for 20 minutes of the length of your vlog but like dude to be able to reach into someone's soul like that and implant something that that fucking changes the way they look at the world and changes the way that they look at their own trauma. makes them feel something that is that is uh greater than any of that other surface level

material bullshit is something that like i still have not come to terms with i still have not understood that impact bro you know what i'm saying to have people just like bro like i've had people just start crying their fucking eyes out when they see me and just i just hug them i'm like i don't know what to say to you though you know what i'm saying they're like dude like you know i lost my mom to addiction or or my little brother you know what I'm saying and like reading your book bro like it put everything in perspective and it made my life feel livable again yeah and I bra I'll cry you know what I'm saying like that shit fucks with me it's like something that I've had to struggle to even like be able to deal with that impact having that level of impact on another human being bro

it's like I'm just so I'm I'm grateful because and it's the thing I want to say to everyone listening is like and this is the thing that I try to preach in a lot of my content is like they'll look at someone like you or someone like me based on our stories and based on our circumstances and say thank you and you know and then they're like yo this helped me change my life but i just want to make this really really clear it's like how do i say this what i sound like crying too um i've been crying a lot lately in my podcast dude you're lucky i got that test shot today yeah your estrogen oh shit let me balling my eyes out like the thing that's so so like I don't know how to say this like people watching this are listening to this you're going to

you see content like we're talking about it from this level of like oh we have all these viewers these people who send us stuff but the true thing that's really powerful here for everyone listening is like you don't need a platform you don't need millions of followers like this can happen genuinely just in your life one-on-one with your friend like and that's what saves the people that like for example I know we talked about in your past we went into this in detail in the other podcast but like there's people in your life that you could draw direct relationships to be like this person was a part of like kind of saving you to helping you to not be where you are right now but to take you out of a moment where you were then to now without that would you be exactly the mic that you are today right so I've gone through so much stuff in my life and I've had so many interactions and conversation with people that I'm like holy shit like I didn't even realize when I was doing this that it was going to help this many people and then the thing that I realized was even before I ever got on social media like I would have conversations with like like just friends of mine about their life.

And like, you know, you talk about me being like a therapist or whatever. It's funny because it's, it's my own desire for trying to find that for me. I tried to find that for me my entire life growing up because I was trying to get understanding of why am I here? Why did this happen to me? What is death? Why did my father take his life? Why am I, you know, why do I feel like I'm not good enough?

Why would my father leave me like that? I'm, why me, right? And then it's so interesting because I would have conversations way before the internet, That way before podcasts existed, way before, with just friends when I'm like 16, 17 years old. And I have these moments with friends and they'd be like, wow, I was like, damn, like, I really appreciate you. And it'd be a simple like, you know, dab them up. I'll appreciate you, bro.

But what I'm trying to tell you guys listening is you don't need to have millions of followers or write a book or like have a fucking podcast. You can legit just have conversations with people in your life that you know are kind of struggling. And you could change their fucking life, man. And that's what's so fucking crazy to me. Because it does start just right there. it's not about having a big platform it's about being willing to go to identify something be like you know what that person looks like they they need someone whether it's you exactly

they just need someone yep no you're 100% right you're and honestly like that that part of me is like uh i think that part of me has suffered a little bit because of my desire to to spread that message on a mass scale and i think there's a lot of people from my life in my life that have been missing me lately you know what I'm saying that have needed me and and it's it's it's another pill that I've had to fucking swallow just knowing that like you know someone in my in my immediate family or someone in my extended family or or friends you know can't get to me because I'm fucking trying to create shit like this you know what I'm saying and it's it's been a balancing act and

it's something that I lately have been trying to really to like hone in on it make sure that I get back to my roots and make sure that my people are taking care of but you're exactly right like bro those those the impact you can have in someone's life by by simply you know saying yo I'm here for you yeah just be in a ear just be in the ear I'm here to listen to I'm here to hear what you have to say and like you just got to check on your fucking people bro you have to man you got to ask like like take yourself out of the equation completely yeah like I like I'm here I'm here for you I want to help you um and and and I know it it sounds cliche but like just just being there to to just reassure them that that you know

other people have gone through stuff like that and that you've gone through stuff like that and be able to provide that viewpoint because one thing that you asked me earlier like one thing that I've learned and like my my biggest learning and I and I it's not my biggest I don't know that I have a biggest learning there's been so many dude like this life has has taught me so many lessons there's no professor there's no teacher there's no principal there's no mentor guru on this planet that will teach you what life teaches you

it's just not it's just living that's the teacher because it's so unique like we all experience the things at certain times there's no cookie cutter exactly so like

there's no there's no perfect lesson there's no one thing that sticks out to me that much more than anything else but like one thing that I've been relying on lately when it comes down to mental health and more so mental illness

and just mindset and your feelings about life is that it's so important to remember to zoom out it is so important to remember to zoom out because you mental illness the the hardest part of it is the unpredictability of it there's no reason why that day you felt you woke up and said i'm going to kill myself yeah there's not there's not always a reason sometimes there's triggers when you look back but like some days you just wake up and

you're like dude like i don't fucking either i don't want to be here anymore or I can't do this today or today you know like I'm so depressed I want to get out of bed I'm so anxious I can't go to the grocery store today I'm fucked up and and you start to you start to dive into that shit and you get so sucked into it that like all of a sudden that day leaks into the next day and you're fucking now you're fucked up bad and it's so important to remember to zoom out dude and to look at the trajectory that is your life and all of the things that you've been through all of the trials and tribulations that you fought and lived through and just know that three days ago you didn't feel like that three days from now you're not going to feel like that

anymore and people just need to always remember that this shit is that there's nothing in life that isn't temporary and I mean that in a good way and a bad way you know what I'm saying life is fleeting bro it changed shit changes it's a it's a moving landscape and so at any time you can feel completely different and so you got to remember to zoom out especially on those bad days dude and to and recognize how far you've come and how much shit you've been through and how well you've done and you should be how proud of yourself you should be fucking still being here and doing the things that you're doing yeah that's a fact man that's i mean i can't even say it better than that you know it's like i want to say something in in relationship to that but you just

put it as simple as it is it is really that simple and to give yourself the perspective like you said of the rest of your life not just being in that one moment that feels like the worst place in your life to zoom back and go okay you know yes that is there and that is existing but how many other beautiful moments are there in your life that you're now if you know you say okay today's the day that I'm ending my life you're now you're you're saying you're you're giving up the rest of any other moments because you're so convinced that it's never going to get better but I fucking promise you it does it does it really fucking does And it like honestly that I've been in those moments and I know you've been in those moments and I can say without a doubt like would I be here? No like but I'm here because I was like okay there's I know it can get better and look at my life dude like I'm so like the fact that I'm sitting on a couch fucking like recording what I have to say on a fucking microphone so that people listen to and they're like whoa Brad you're so cool or like I appreciate what you said is it's fucking insane if I go back and I go to that six year old who lost his father and who hung himself.

in the fucking garage and like you see that right and then you're like okay that kid and then he grew up and I struggled so much about like what's my worth I'm not good enough right and so now I'm this person I get a sit and I get a talk on a couch next to another person who's equal I don't know equally or less it's not about that but like you're doing so many amazing things and I got to have this conversation about life and what matters and how it matters to people on a fucking microphone and some cameras and that's my business now that's my life now that's like it's insane if you would have told that six year old that fuck no yeah impossible there's no way that six year old believe that he can get here but i'm fucking here yeah so like i just want to give the perspective

to everyone listening like whatever it is you're going through like you said zoom out and give it give it a little more time give it a little more time even more than you want to give it yeah i've dude listen like i there's there's so many passages in the book about about dragging yourself you know what I'm saying there's so many passages in the book about just going through that mud and just like continuing to crawl on days when you're like yo I got nothing left I got nothing left bro because the the speed at which this life will allow you to go from crawling through the mud to being on your knees to back on your feet to walking to running to sprinting to on a rocket ship to doing this kind of fucking shit it's crazy yeah it's nuts it's fucking crazy bro

and it's honestly there's never been a time on this planning yes where it was as possible to go from a place where you at you're at the end of the fucking line and you have nothing left to give to having a flourishing fucking career and everything you ever dreamed of yeah no that's a fact right now today in the 2021 shit that's a fact man like you literally like you nailed it you fucking nailed it but it's crazy because at the same exact time now that we run to all these issues about being present because of because of also the same capabilities that we all have now at our fingertips like to be able to make this content to be able to be on the internet to be so engaged right so it's this whole like

double ed shorts it's fucking crazy dog too i know and i told and when i talk about the burnout and shit in the beginning of the episode you know it's funny because you know my mom you know is my north star on on everything and like i always look to her for for you know guidance when it when things get tough and she uh she i always expect her to be like no take your break you know take your break every time i tell her she's like yo there's motherfuckers dependent on you like she's like she's like there's people out there who literally she's like she reads all the comments my mom reads all the comments she gets answers every d like she's one of those bombs yeah oh my god like she sends them to me she sends them to me she's like you

should respond to this kid he's so cute he said this i go mom i have 36000 of these messages right now this exact message i can't i physically can't all i can't do is keep making content like this to talk to everybody yeah and occasionally obviously i'll reach out of course of course but But she's like, dude, you got people depending on you. And it's so funny. I'm like, damn, I thought she was going to be out here like, dude, take a break. And she's like, no breaks. Dude, you got to make the content.

And honestly, I do it. I never thought that I would get to a point where I felt so responsible and so accountable to my audience. Like, these people do really like, like, because you want to know why, in my circumstance or in your circumstance, when they know the backstory and they, and they know where you came from to get to where you're at now even without talking in a motivational or inspirational sense just being there and showing up

and doing dope shit shows them that it's possible to go from where you are to doing dope shit and so the more dope shit you do and like going out and like creating content even against all odds when you're like yo I need a break

they're like dude this I can do it too yeah he's burnt out look he's still going he's still going he's still out there creating content because he wants to fucking he wants to win yeah you know what I'm saying and I know where he was he wasn't he wasn't a winner he was the opposite you know what I'm saying and so like dude like I that's just another thing that I felt I basically what I'll do is I'll run it to a point where I'm like okay now I'm threatening myself yeah my audience which by the way I've probably gotten close but like you know it's so hard to like not create content to that content for them yeah

Dude, I'm grateful, man. I'm so fucking blessed to be at this point in my life. I don't even know how it's like... You're like, I don't even know how I got here. Yeah, I do because I did a bunch of shit. But like at the same time, like it does blow my mind still. It's like the fact that I have all these businesses now that are at this crazy fucking level. Like even over the last year since I rebranded my original company, which is rock, excuse me,

which is being fit here into Roggear, what it is now. And it's exploded. Like it's fucking like 10x. So I'm like, holy fuck. it was already great. Now it's at this trajectory that's like astronomical and it's like I could just

it blows my mind bro. I don't have see that's one thing I don't have and like it we didn't do any business really business stuff today and obviously like I have that whole sector of my life as well like love business. Yeah. The one thing I don't really have like outside of like

investments in that passive income is that is that IP build and passive product build which I'm envious but also inspired by you on because, you know, like I had the merch and the clothing, I mean, dude, I would do, you know, $100 plus $1,000 on drops and it was, that was great. It's amazing. It was amazing. But I kind of moved away from it because I wasn't building IP that was going to be

long lasting IP and I wasn't super proud of it. And so right now that's another thing that I'm working. So you asked earlier what, what's next and I think it's like, I don't know where we are for time. I don't have to do it. No, go. I don't go. I don't go. Yeah.

Working on the second book is one thing. I also think that the format that I've built with the night shift around food and travel is, okay, so lately I've become obsessed with Bourdain's story. Oh my God, that's a legend. Obviously, like the ending of the story is not something that I want to replicate. Of course not. But I, but there is a tremendous, I don't even want to say this because I don't want anyone to take it out of context and say that I'm even remotely comparing myself to him. Yeah. Because this dude was a fucking genius.

Like a god, bro. Legend. I just watched the Roadrunner documentary on him the other day. And, but, but like East Coast born, Massachusetts, heroin addicts, you know, obsessed with food, wrote a book in the very beginning of his career, took that bookstore to television, dealt with, dealt with, dealt with depression all the way. Just not ended that way. Right.

Yeah. So that's, so I just have to skip that last step. You know what I'm saying? Like just make sure that doesn't happen, which, you know, that's great. So, but I think that I don't think this, but the format that I've created in the night shift having to do with food and lifestyle and travel is similar in certain ways, at least, or at least has a taste of what he was doing. Once again, not comparing myself to him, but there are, there is some interest in the agency, I think space and at least on the management side on our side to blowing that out into a potential like television series. And we've been looking at this for like network. I don't know yet.

even know what the package looks like or any of that stuff but I I could totally see myself being that like goes and absorbs different cultures like you know you know shows up at the Hanukkah dinner in Israel or like yeah it just goes to different places originally when we discussed it with in development with the agencies in the beginning it was supposed to be share of food and sex culture exploration around the world so I go to different countries explore food and sex and how sex operates in different countries I don't know what it will end up being yeah but that's something that I could totally see happening. And then working on the second book,

the podcast, um, is weird because of impulsive. And it, yeah, yeah. And so we're just, have you been shooting episodes?

Nah, no, I haven't even started yet. Because I was like, where the fuck was my invite? I know. You're definitely coming on. No,

no, no. It hasn't started yet. Because I just, I'm just trying to understand and balance the two and just like, um, I, I,

it's funny because, because, like, I already got my title for this video now. Oh, yeah, I can't wait. But, but, like, as, like, as someone that, that, uh, you know, Logan obviously put on, I just, I, I, I, I'd like to double check that people are comfortable with my other initiatives. Of course. And I think, and I, we've talked about it. And I think he is, um, because like, dude, listen, like, there's not a lot of podcast.

There's not a lot of big podcast hosts out there that aren't running like a, a couple different gigs. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, Theo Vaughn, you know, Chobb, like, all on them. guys, bro, they're all, uh, Andrew Schultz. Like they have 15 fucking shows. And so like the idea of building out infrastructure for myself, uh, and for longevity of my, of my career, you gotta do it.

Yeah, it's something I, he would never say no, but I, I like to triple check to make sure that he's comfortable with my other projects just because he did put me on in such a, in such a massive way. You know what I'm saying? Well, that's rare, man. I mean, a lot of people, it's funny. Like nowadays, like people get put on and they like, oh, so they turn around like, no one helped them.

You know, like, what the fuck? I haven't said it enough. I haven't said it enough. I'm so thankful to that kid. And he knows it, but I haven't said it enough publicly and the public always wants to know it as much as well. Like, bro, the kid fucking took a shot in the fucking dark chance and said,

yo, there's something in this dude that I, that I want to be around and I want to have him be a part of the project. And he obviously made the right decision and we built great things together. But yeah, oh, fucking everything back to that initial chance. You know, and also the hard work and the talent and all those things.

but like dude he put he was uh he was the 50 cent to my lloyd banks you know what i'm saying like without 50 it's like dude does lloyd make it or like or like jordan and pippin like is pippin a hall of famer if if jordan never right you know was it's not that yeah it's not that obviously it's not a communicate it's not a argument of your work ethic and how much work you do and how hard you work because i know that like directly and i actually know how much you you add to that like you're just your creative value um people don't even know how people don't even know half of no i know that of what the real uh what that real relationship looks like i mean no no i'm sure i don't even know the full amount but i do know what i know of you um the things that you add

just besides being like the face because like yeah people get the perception where it's like oh they say oh lo we made you this or that or but it's like it is not as simple to say oh the hard work and all that stuff didn't didn't like matter as well because i know you know that stuff matters Yeah, I mean, if you, if you get, you can't put someone on a map and they're like, no one gives a fuck about that person. Well, like, like this, for example, uh, call him the marketing tool, right? Call him the marketing tool. If CBS says, yo, I'm going to give you $20 million in free advertising this year. We're going to be a marketing tool that's going to blow you up.

But there's nothing to blow up because you're not making content. You're not creating entertaining shit that people want to see and creative stuff or anything. you're not working your fucking ass off to build a brand the night shift and all this product and all this IP that makes sense and matters then at the end of the day the promotion engine is just advertising something that doesn't exist or shouldn't be there right you know what I'm saying so like yeah like yeah he he fucking he without him dude like it never would have happened it never I truly believe that because more than anything dude like I'll say this more than any promotion or advertising or marketing or blowing me up or any of that stuff the one thing he gave

me more than anything else was the confidence to get started. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, I'm gonna fucking, I'm gonna be in your content with you. I'm gonna, you're gonna do this shit and like, yo, you're really funny. You're really good. Like, Brian needed that. I needed that at the, at the start of my come up. Somebody to be like, yeah, I believe in you. You are, you're fucking smart. You're witty. You're well spoken. Like, you're entertaining. Like, I like watching. I like watching the night shift. He was telling me that shit on episode two when I had 50,000 subs. You know what I'm saying? He's like, I watch the show. It's a great show. Like more than anything, he was the guy that gave me the confidence to continue doing it.

So why do you think there are people who, who like get that and who don't appreciate it once they, once they have it? I don't know that I don't know that. Because you're not like that. As I'm saying, you're very much not like that. But, but I was always appreciative behind the scenes, which is really where it matters, obviously. But I think I could have done a better job of, of making sure that everybody, it's just so weird. Like people just want to know that you're appreciative. And sometimes like, you know, like you just never really.

know what goes on behind the scenes. I mean him are both understand our symbiotic value like someday we'll write about it or we'll sit down on a show and make people understand like how I think you should do it on your show 100 oh me and him and just talk about a relationship. It would be the crazy bro like there's so many layers of like value that goes into our relationship business friendship like problem solving creative podcasting like bro like it's it's I think it's one of the finest um you know duos in the internet space like we really have just created this this um awesome you know vibe of both friendship and business which is as you know

is a very hard um beast to extreme to handle because because especially in a situation where it's not a very symbiotic co-founder situation he was an established he was one of the biggest superstars in the space and obviously I came on post Tokyo and so there was there was you know, it had dwindled a little bit to a point where it was like, okay, like he wasn't at the height of his career, but he still was a massive creator when he came on. And, um, and so, but it's so, it's, when we talk about this story, he's bigger than he's ever been now, though. I think, I think so. I think he's bigger from a, from a mainstream standpoint and less, less

from a, um, like just a YouTube critic. Because it's funny. It's like, it's like, it's like, comparatively like, you know, you compare him to Mr. Beast or you compare him to, to, uh, you know, Steve will do it. These guys are cleaning up on YouTube right now. Logan hasn't posted on YouTube in a year. You know what I'm saying? I don't mean necessarily just by YouTube. No,

but that's what I'm trying to say. Logan, out of all of them, is the only one who if you took a cross section of households in America would be like, he's a household name. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Like you ask, dude, you ask my fucking dad or some 32 year old dude, yo, do you know who Mr. Beast is? They're going to be like, no,

what is that like a clothing couple? Like, they don't know what it is. Yeah, they're like, we don't know what that is. But you ask him who Logan Paul is, it's either the guy who fought Floyd Mayweather. Yeah.

It's a guy who has a really dope podcast. It could be the guy that did something he shouldn't know. Right. Like, but at, no matter what you want to say, like he's a, he's a mainstream household, uh, force, you know? And so it's, um, yeah, I mean, dude, the kid, the kid did so many, uh, tremendous things for me. And then I honestly like, uh, do look forward to unpacking and really being able to reveal. That'd be a dope fucking episode. That's how you got to do it.

Just like three hours of just us talking about crazy stories. The whole thing. Because I want to do, I was going to tell you, I'll talk to you after, but I want to get him on here and talk about his whole just evolution. I think he would, I think you would do it, man. I think you, I think your show right now has so,

has a ton of depth and people are watching it for sure. So it's like, I think you would do it. It would just be a matter of finding the time. Get him out here. Exactly. Yeah. He loves.

He just loved being in Puerto Rico or what? Did they sell that house yet? Because I know they put that on the thing. It's on the market. It's on the market. If anybody watching has an extra 9 million lander, I can go for it. But yes and no, I think he does, but I think he also would be willing to like feign how much he really loves it because he's invested. He's not leaving.

You know what I'm saying? So like, yeah, yeah, makes sense. I think he, I think he likes it and he dislikes it for two, for different reasons. I think he, I don't know that he loves being there without us. He, he, as much as he like was never reliant on like, his friends because he was this like force yeah he loved having he loved waking up turning on the lights in that house and having all of us there and having all of his friends there to like talk to and lean on and just have a good day with yeah and he's very siloed down there man it's him and kevin and

Kevin's great and is a great person for him to be with it's his videographer um but that's it's got the other people around him are super high net worth individuals in the business world right right Crypto and that kind of stuff. And so he's got mentors, but I think, I think he might have, he might be missing his friends a little bit. Especially as you get a little older too. Yeah. But then the stuff that he likes about it is, uh, it's allowed him to get into a creative

space that he's, he has never gotten in because there's no distraction. Because it's a single. It's it. Yeah. Everybody's focused on winning. That's it, dude. So he can just focus on just the project. He can focus on crypto.

He can focus on whatever the fuck he wants to. He's just locked in. Yeah. I'll have to, I'll have to talk to more about it. I see him, but is there anything else you want to talk about? Not really. I mean, I don't really have anything pressing. I think it was, you know, I just love sitting here and chopping it up with you. I could go for 50 hours. But, you know, I'm appreciative to be here. I hope that people once again take value out of the

episode and, you know, I just don't know what it is about sitting here with you. I feel so calm. And it's like, it's like a therapy session where I feel because I'm always anxious. And like when I sit here with you, I feel like I'm in a flow. state and I can say things the way I mean to say it but um I think I've because I'm I'm just genuinely probably I think we're very similar yeah and in this moments it's just kind of it feels at least to us very just normal calm just chill and people get to see like a cool like conversation that like might happen in the like actual yeah world so hopefully people liked it and they and they get to take as much out of this episode as they did the first one uh if I if I let you

down no you do no no no no no but uh hopefully hopefully everybody enjoyed it Yeah, hell yeah. I appreciate you coming, man. And genuinely, like I said, in this space and from the people that I've known in this creator world, you have been one of the most down-to-earth, real people that I've ever had a pleasure to talk to. For real, genuinely. Like, off-camera, not, it doesn't fucking matter. You've been that guy. I wish we were able to build more of a friendship, but I understand the, you know, the movie nature of everything.

But you're genuine. Yeah, I think we can do, I think I can do better. I think we, but I'm the same way. I know it's not, I'm not putting this on you. This is my own issue as well. Like just, I mean, everyone around me knows I have that same issue. It's my fucking life that I'm trying to fix. And I'm not at all.

It's not a you thing. This is a me thing just as much. But I want you to know genuinely, just as a human man, I love you and I really appreciate you. I appreciate that, bro. You're a fucking, you're an awesome person, dude. I appreciate it. You're doing amazing things, really, like incredible things. And you, Logan, everything.

And just you alone, man, like in the story and the way that you're able to show people who come from, you know, something similar to you that there's so much more life. I see so much value and I and I'm so grateful that I'm able to again have this conversation with you about any of that so thank you I love you man I appreciate you thank you guys for watching this fucking podcast what okay fuck it oh yeah because I because the thing is it's funny too because like everybody's like oh I'm sure the guest wants to get out of here I'm like dog I'm dude I can literally the thing about me is I and then no one's ever given me the opportunity we did with Alex Jones with the I'm marathon I could do I do 15 hour podcast I'm not even playing well I could too I know, which is awesome. No, I'm not saying we should do it right now, but like I could easily fucking do it. Like, I don't know if you do it, but for when George Janko was on, we were on here for like three and a half hours.

Oh, did y'all talk for that long? Yeah. Yeah. We had to cut out some of it. A lot of it was like hard as you should watch it. No, I did. I saw a good chunk of it. No, I didn't know.

No, no. It is longer. Yeah, I saw a lot. Oh, wait. Sorry, before we get to these questions, by the way, uh, if you're on YouTube, drop a fucking comment, drop a like, subscribe to the channel right now. If you're on iTunes, please drop a dope review. Subscribe to the iTunes. Is that the iTunes?

Yeah. Yeah. All that good shit. Yeah. What's a question? All right. So this question is for both of you guys. As you guys have both gone through personal struggles in life, but now are both there.

We're starting the podcast all over again. Oh, Jesus. Go ahead. Go ahead. But now are both very successful. When you look back, if any, who are some people you looked up to get through those dark times? And what sort of messages and or things did they say or do you can help you throughout the process of getting to where you are damn i have not do you have yeah i mean i can go so there's there's no people that i really

necessarily looked up to um but there are people in my life that i could identify now but when in the moment they were there i wasn't i wasn't like that's my guy you know so i could look back there's there's someone very very uh integral in my becoming of like being a man and feeling like oh you know there was there was someone who was kind of looking out from me in the gym setting i'll tell you guys right now his name is chad um I think he's so loud. I haven't reached out to this guy in a long time. Chad Nahiguan is his name.

He was my first weightlifting partner when I was like 17 years old. And he was kind of like a father figure to me. And I remember there was one interaction I had with this guy where I had probably been able to just bench like 225 for the first time ever, right? And there must have, there was a kid who came in there who was struggling with 25s on each side, which is like 95 pounds. And I remember going to Chad and being like, ha ha, look at this. fucking kid almost like big dick in the kid yeah yeah and chad got so fucking mad he was like you

motherfucker don't you ever don't he's like you used to be there what the fuck are you doing looking at that kid and saying oh fuck that kid whatever like like you need to fucking check yourself and i remember he got so mad at me and that was such because like i grew up without a father so having this person who like i looked at as a father figure fucking check me and be like yo that was you at one point what the fuck are you doing and And it was so humbling to me. But that's someone, that's someone I could just say directly. If I'm talking about someone who had a part in my life that I is, at the time, I wasn't like,

oh, this is this is this. And this is what I've learned. This took me years to look back on and be like, holy fuck, that's what it meant to me. But yeah, that person, that was a, that was a situation I had. So it wasn't like some celebrity or some person that you guys might know of that I looked at. It was just people in my life that I had these moments with that. I was like, oh, fuck, that made me grow so much as a human. I think, I think for me, like, I was never huge.

on inspiration from like idols and stuff like that. And I actually think about this and I'm like, damn. Like obviously for people who read the book, Logan has been an inspiration for me from the creator standpoint, Sean Nelson who put me on at Love Sack on the brand side and took an equally risky chance that Logan did, you know, from the beginning and put me on was a mentor to me and a person that I looked up to greatly. But one that may not be so known is I, I back in my early days was just, Just a massive fan of Jay-Z who just got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Yeah. And I watched his induction speech. And honestly, I do not believe that any other rapper will have a induction that rivals Jays. I mean, dude, like the people that were a part of of welcoming his welcoming video, Obama, Rihanna, Beyonce, obviously, Kevin Hart, LeBron James. Every actor athlete this and then then Dave Chappelle gave his induction speech and it's like they're not going to do that for any other fun they're not going to do that for Drake even they're not going to do for any of those guys because Jay had an impact on the culture and on people who who you know even even as a white kid who and it's and this is pales in comparison to what the what he means to the black community he showed me that you can make it from illegitimate to legitimate. And that was something that I needed to be reminded a lot of times in my life that there was a way to get out of the life that I had found myself into. And the way that he was able to tell stories and the way that he was able to paint up a picture so vivid when you listen to his music taught me so much about storytelling and how I would tell my story.

You know what I'm saying? And he just being able to flip it, he would always say from the crack side to the rap side, like just. All of that stuff, just everything about Jay and about his come up and his trajectory was always kind of like my like inspiration point. And he made it out of a tough spot and made something beautiful out of it. Yeah. And that mentality is so dope though, like being able to go from something that is so, you know, as people perceive like so hard to get out of. And he did it. And not only did he get out of it, he's a fucking billionaire. And he's like massive in this fucking industry. Like there, I mean, that's the thing goes to show you like, just don't say, oh, I can't do this because it's just hard. Yeah.

You know, I can't get out of this because it's too. much like that goes with tons not just talking about that life or that lifestyle but like we tend to do that all the time we're like oh it's just uh i don't know it's too much work blah blah like we just constantly doubt ourselves instead of like find people like this and go okay like i could fucking do this like you were saying earlier same shit so i just think that's important we got another question all right for sure um so this person says they say that you were two rare voices that speak a lot of mental health so they were asking what are things that have helped you um to start feeling better And then what happens, what happens for things that keep you from feeling sad, staying motivated?

You know, it's funny. This is the fucking question that I was trying to ask you the whole time. It's funny. It's like my audience. I ask those questions. No, I have my coping tactics figured out. I mean, they've always been the same and they remain the same. If I do not get my cardio done.

And I've talked to like this tiny cross section of people who have reported that it's not the same for them. But the broad majority of anxiety suffers and people with depression find exercise. especially high intensity cardiovascular exercise to be an incredible outlet and escape for them. It's a fact. It's a fucking fact, bro. And like when I find myself going into a week

of like shitty eating or like not working out, it's so palpable how that is affecting my mental state. Yeah. And it's a tragedy. I think this is really important though because a lot of people don't know. You know because you're versed in it and versed that looking at it.

A hundred percent. But a lot of people, they like eat shittier. They avoid these things. They know they should be going after like the cardiovascular. Yeah. and they don't they're like they're not aware that this is happening to them so i'm glad you're saying this continue yeah that's been really the staple of my like mental health journey has been

has been that cardio whether it's whether it's the bike unfortunately only the elliptical for me because i can't use a treadmill because my ankle but um whatever i can do to get that sweat going and to get my mind off of things and just to get into a flow state where i'm just it it's just something that it does your body it's a natural dopamine hey it's a natural serotonin on uh this is a physiologic this is a little bit of thing happening. Yeah, it's just a fact. So that's been one thing. And then, you know, be nice to yourself as much as possible. I know that's hard. It's something I struggle with. But, you know, talk, talk nicely to yourself. You know what I'm saying? Tell yourself that you're a confident.

You're a good person. You will make it. You like, you've got to get into that fucking habit of self-talk. That's a military tactic. That's a fucking military tactic. Like that, that shit is as scientific as the cardio. Yeah. Like, if you're out there telling yourself, every day yo I'm good enough I'm the I'm the guy I'm confident I'm sure myself I'm I'm positive I'm I'm I'm prepared I'm ready you know what I'm saying like that stuff like telling yourself that over and over and over again this is something I need to work really work on this is me at me again like but that's another thing and and just and just and just and just surrounding yourself with like with like positive people you know what I'm

saying get that toxicity out of your life get those people that drag you down out of your life get those people that make you feel less than out of your life you know what I'm Because you don't need those people in your life. You need people that make you feel happy and make you feel accomplished. And you can do the things that you want to do. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So I'll take it a step further.

Something that I've learned beyond meditation, which has been massive in my life, like just sitting and trying to, like you said, removing the phones, removing the bullshit. And just trying to be like where, like in my life, where am I at? And so you guys understand. I just want to make this known like the way I meditate. I don't know if this could help you guys or, you know, if you give a fuck or not. But I will sit. wherever it doesn't have to be like on the floor. I'm not necessarily sitting like a hippie or anything. I just sit in a chair and I focus on my breathing. And then as thoughts come into my mind, I focus on letting them be there for as long as they try to be there and then not fighting them to go away, not fighting them to move through me faster or to think about something else or I just let it go. And I keep trying to bring myself back to the thought of my of my breath. And if it keeps going back to this thought or this moment or this energy, I just allow it. I just allow it to be for as long as it takes for it to kind of just go.

go away where I could start to think just about my breath again. That's the big, I mean, what you're talking about right there is actually the biggest thing. So like exercise is a way to get there. Self talk is a way to get there. And like it's a good starting point. If you find yourself in a really negative mind state to try to transform those thoughts to positive, but stoicism and the ability to be at ease with whatever thoughts enter your mind is the ultimate flow state.

That's where you, that's where you, that's where you aspire to be. That's where you always will aspire to be from a mental health standpoint. point and and when if you're a real mental illness sufferer and and i've spent years in this place that fucking decades in the space of constantly spending your entire day wrestling with thoughts wrestling with fucking thoughts i'm a failure i'm negative i'm never going to get off drugs i'm always going to feel like this all of those thoughts comes back to the control oh just and just and just like no get that thought out of my mind right now yeah i don't like that thought or please stop it stop you find yourself well i mean if you're suffering enough like you even find yourself

saying it oh i'm talking to myself for sure i can't take this shit anymore yeah and and the the i almost can pinpoint it to where i started to get a little bit better was when i found out that dude it's all about finding ease with whatever thoughts it could be the most fucked up thought you've ever thought in your entire life and if you can find yourself like you know that's not me that's not me that the ability to separate your physical self from your from your thoughts is the greatest accomplishment you'll ever have in your entire life. Your thoughts do not define who you are. They just don't.

They're just, that's a whole separate reality that you don't have to live in if you can get good enough at practicing either stoicism or just meditation. Yeah. And, and, and, and positive self-talk and all of those other things

and eating clean and breathing properly are all lubricants to that system working properly. And as it is. I just, like I said, it's not easy. This is not an easy thing to do. It's so fucking difficult, but it is. It's just about like, okay, this is, the thing that when I would try to push the thoughts

out, I'd be like, okay, this is just a part of me right now. I'm okay with it. And I would kind of think, like I said, I would kind of think about what's next, what else is going on, what else do I feel? And I would say this to myself. I'm not just saying it to you guys. I would say this to myself and I would just continue to try to focus on breathing to let the thing go.

Now, the second thing that I do that I think is really important for people who deal with mental illnesses and like, you know, issues in their life. is try to revisit moments in your life where you are now like where you actually are now as an adult like for example very very popular I can't say these people's name but someone

someone who I really look up to told me this he was like write down like your your story as you know it now as an adult as if you were going to write it down and have like the six year old me right as a six year old losing my father

the six year old would read it right and and so the whole the whole exercise is in practicing where I am right now and who I am right now yes there are things of me like that I'm you know maybe battling like we were talking about earlier with like controlling because of my past or issues in my life because of my past but if you can start to identify who you are right now where you are right now what you truly have right now and you don't relate it directly to okay, like I said, the six-year-old who lost his father. When I was six years old and I lost my father, I had all these automatic assumptions.

I'm not good enough, you know. Take a time. Yeah, yeah. Take a deep breath. Take a that while you're out here explaining it to him. So I, uh, I, I, I, I got. so caught up in like the thoughts of why did this happen to me right and uh the thing that i practice now is relating like what i know now as a 32 year old to to a six to a six year old like

i as a six year old i would have no understanding that my father was dealt with uh he had recently lost his mom and his dad like within like i don't know a few months span he had major resentment towards his ability to like fix the issues that he had with his mom before she passed never got to fix these things the dad passed soon soon after the mom passed and he dealt with his clinical depression like as a six year old is what i'm saying as a six year old i would have zero understanding of what that was what that felt like what that could be like where you are mentally he was he was 38 years when he passed i wouldn't have any understanding of that i'm just a six year old who things are just happening to me and i could never know what

that person was going through because I just didn't even have the kind of bandwidth to have a conversation with someone like that, right? So I have to remind my six-year-old self, hey, I'm 32 now. I've dealt with all these other things in my life. This is, like, that situation is not who I am. It's, I'm not going to allow it to make me who I am, right? So what I'm telling you guys is this is an exercise in going, okay, this is where I'm at in my life, you know, because a lot of times we act on things that are in our past that are, you know, that made us who we are quote unquote right it's it but the truth is you make you who you are right now with every choice you decide right now moving forward but where you were then you have to reteach that

that younger version of yourself oh shit you have more perspective now go tell your younger version of yourself like okay these are all these other things that you were just completely aware of so that you start to break down those thoughts like I wasn't good enough because it didn't have to do with that it wasn't because I wasn't good enough it was because of everything else that he had going on in his life but again I wouldn't have the understanding of that at that time. That's just instantly, I'm like, this is what it is. I'm not good enough.

So that's like a therapeutic approach to like re-to, like, reteaching those old traumas kind of like. Yeah, it's like going into like the, you know, imagine, imagine you're talking to your six-year-old self, like explaining to that person like with what I know now, all these other things that have been going on in my own life now that I could say, well, like, obviously I'm not going to go up to a six-year-old and say this shit, but it's like I'm talking to my six-year-old self as a 32-year-old. Yeah, no, no, no, I get it. Because he's still in there. still in there and I think and I think like you know if we if we ever wanted to do a long another episode on on you know the approach to therapy and and cognitive behavior and all that

stuff uh it all boils down to what happened to as a kid yeah all of it you know what I'm saying your whole the majority of your of your thought pattern and and and everything is you learn that when you're young yeah you know what I'm saying into the circumstances of the environment that you were put in as a as a child and like when I tell you I haven't even begin to be going to scratch i mean i have i've done hundreds of therapy sessions but like never made any real headway i'm like i'm like figuring out yo what's what's going on with that little kid you know what i'm saying who had to watch you know some fucked up shit on the home front you know what i'm saying who had to see some some physical shit and some fucked up shit and and you know and and and had a had it went

through a divorce at an age when it shouldn't fucking happen you know what i'm saying like the worst timing so yeah i mean i think people who haven't done therapy don't understand that like that's the root of everything. That's the first thing your therapist is going to ask you. Yeah. You know, what was your life as a kid? 100% because that's where it all is.

It's where it all lies. So it's interesting that you say that because I, you know, I've never gone through that exercise and I, you sometimes forget like, you know, of that little kid who is, um,

who was scared to get on the, um, pitcher's mound and T-ball. You know what I'm saying? And like was, you know, like there's a reason why. Panic attacks.

Yeah. There's a reason why. At eight, nine years old, like having panic attacks and no one knew. At the time, it was just, you know, he's freaking out. Because I was, I mean, that was 25 years ago. Yeah.

Whatever years ago. They're like, just do it, pussy. Yeah, just go fucking get it done. That's what my dad would say to me. And by the way, like, at the time, he wasn't wrong for it. Yeah. But like, but like now obviously we know a little bit more about how that shit works. You know, they gave me, um, they gave me an inhaler.

They're like, oh, he has asthma. I had asthma. Because I would start, but I didn't have asthma. I actually had asthma. No, no, no, I get that. But like, I would have panic attacks. Because of breathing. Yeah.

And so they would be like, oh, he can't breathe when he, when he gets, I was having panic attacks. And I would, and they would just, I would rip the fucking, you know, abudorol or whatever it was. And then fucking, it wouldn't do anything, obviously. Like, I didn't wheeze or anything. That would have panic attacks. What the fuck? And it was like on, and at the time, I, by the way, like, it's awesome being on a podcast where I'm making these connections in real time. Like, I'm not telling you a story that I've told someone before I just made that connection.

You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what was happening. I, I didn't go to the doctor and he was like, oh, he was. he can't hit the peak on the on the breathing thing yeah i always hit the peak because i didn't have asthma yeah you know what i'm saying but like anxiety and kids didn't exist at that there's no such thing no one talked about i mean it existed obviously as you experienced but like there wasn't a thing that people were like oh diagnose fix this yeah so fucking weird it's dope is that nuts is that nuts dude like why why does it only how does it only happen

well doc why does it only happen when he is about to get on the mound or like why does it only happen when he's coming up to bat or why does it only happen they're like was he jogging yeah And they're like, they're like, oh, well, we think it's emotional. They literally, they said it was emotionally induced asthma. Whoa. That's what they said. They were like, it's, it's like, when, yeah, I'm just remembering this now. Like, literally this is, my mom will watch this whole podcast and respond to every comment.

And every DM that gets said to her trustee. And she's watching this right now. Like, damn, that really did happen. Maybe he didn't he never had fucking asthma. Yeah. Yeah. She's going to comment on it. She, my mom will.

Yeah, I love this. I love this also because we ended the podcast like 40 minutes. Yeah, no. I know. It's going to be fun to see what the fall off looks like when we start signing out. And then people are just like, wait, what? People are like, did you hear that story about his ass? Like, no.

I hung up right after the Logan bullshit. What the fuck you're talking about? Yeah, it's so funny. Is that it? Are we good? Are we good? Because we talk, bro. This is this question.

She's going to put a whole different. looking at a board and there's fucking Jake Paul fight and shit. Oh, we didn't even mention that. We don't have to. I mean, oh, let me, let me say this as far as the Jake Paul shit's concerned. Everybody wants to talk about Jake Paul and fighting. And he, and I'm excited for this fight. He's finally going to be able to put his, his, um, skills to the test against an actual boxer.

Hold on. I have some opinions of this. Okay. What, what are you going to say? Have you seen that guy's record? The people that he's beaten? Yeah, they're scrubs. Yeah.

They're the worst. No, no, no. I don't care. I'm done with this. Okay. I'm done with this. He's a fucking, he's a boxer.

Okay. Let's just say this. He's fighting a boxer. I'm done with, I understand where you're coming from, but I've done this too many times ready to, and also like, as long as he just keeps knocking motherfuckers out,

it's like you just have to keep eating your words on it. Of course. But no, I wasn't even going to say anything regarding his boxing. I'm excited for the fight. I'm excited for him to go and fight a boxer. And there's a lot riding on the fight. It's awesome.

We had Jake on the podcast. The last time I went to Puerto Rico. Did you ask him why he hid my comments on his, his Instagram? No, but I, but I'm, we should talk about that. Maybe not I know I think it doesn't matter. I guess really quick. I think there's something wrong with his comments because it happens to me too. I told you it still happens to me.

If I comment on his post, I think he just has us both blocks. You think so? I don't know. Whatever. He just doesn't want his comments on his shit. Maybe I'll, I'll ask him personally and see what he says. Fuck it doesn't matter. But he, um, I, we had him on the podcast a couple weeks ago.

And this episode will come out just before the fight. I believe that his turnaround as a person will equal the turnaround that Logan made. And he's so off the grid because he's always training and he's not putting out a lot of content. He, uh, trust me, dude, me and this kid, you know, have had one of the most tumultuous, tumultuous, embroiled pass ever. Like basically fist fights a million. fucking times over we've had blowout battles on podcast so when i say this i say it with my whole chest this kid is is changing so much and i and i'm so fucking proud of the kid dude and i and i know he's got he's got an equal amount as logan had of work to do ahead of them to try to show people

that he's changing yeah but i was blown fucking away by his uh you were on the last podcast he the way he's talking the way he's handling situations the way he's getting into businesses the way he's setting things up the way he's focused on his boxing the way he's pushed all the distractions aside the way he's focused on his current relationship i mean dude like it's it's it's really really good to watch it's really good to watch because i think both of them were raised very well and they're both good kids deep down that you know just had to go through a bunch of shit he's the kid yeah he's a fucking kid he's a fucking kid i mean also like they they Jake specifically built his audience at some point around the fact

like people didn't like trolling yeah he did it but he and he ran it with that and I don't even blame him for that but I'm not surprised that he's getting to a point where you're saying he's like fucking you gotta watch this episode man like it really because he's like dude when I'm here's where I knew it was the tipping point when me and Logan are sitting on the opposite couch learning lessons oh you know what I'm saying but but not from Ben Shapiro not from fucking you know all of these gurus and and and men mentors and people that we have in the show, but from Jake. And he's like, dude, like, y'all, you know, I started doing this and this happened.

And I'm, and I remember at one point in the pockets, I was like, speechless. Wow. I'm like, I can't believe this dude just said that. Like, he's, he really is growing. And I think it'll, I think people will probably diss on me for saying this shit right now. But like, I, I think if you give him another, another year, like, he's going to start doing some great things. Yeah. I love it, man.

I love that. I mean, shit. I don't care. I know people love to hate on that guy. Yeah. But, I mean, You can't hit on growth. Growth, bro.

That's it. Like, dude, like, hey, please tell me that I was a piece of shit when I was selling drugs. Yeah. But don't hit me now. Like, admire the process. Admire the growth. And I've never sold drugs, by the way. I just want to let the world know that.

I just want to let the world know that. I was going to say, like, you were like, my, my, my, the clothing business has grown exponentially. And I was like, should I do it? I'm not going to fucking do it. Just because we've had such a deep episode. Yes. I was like, I don't want to boil it down to such a. dumb fucking bullshit.

Yeah. Yeah, I've never once. Actually, it's not sure I've sold drugs before, but not like a drug dealer. I'm not like a drug dealer. Are there anything else on there you want to hit? Because you saw that's so funny. I mean, Sugar's got a fight coming up on the 11th and Vegas. I'm going to do everything in my power to make it to that fight.

I'm 100% being there. I love that dude. Like he, you know, shout out Sugar Sean. He's a force within the UFC. I think he's got a massive, massive story in front of them, journey ahead of him. And he's just, I don't think that Once again, talk shit to me, say what you want

I don't think there's a more fun fighter to watch right now. No, bro, it's crazy though. Before I ever met that guy and made any content with him, I saw him fighting and was like, who the fuck is this guy? And now I've seen him like, yo, this is, and not only is he like such a dope human, like such a nice person, like a good, like a genuine soul. He's an amazing fucking fighting and he's fucking entertaining, dude.

From the theatrics to the unorthodox way that he fights to his, answer to the just everything that he does is amazing and he's he's an awesome person off camera and uh you know so i'm really excited for for that fight on the 11th uh to see that um what else is up there she wrote all these notes and i dude we didn't even i didn't even look at this shit we got like a decent amount of the only one we didn't answer was who's the father like how that's the only one written on yeah why you write that in red who's the father yeah yeah but like there's like a bunch of stuff yeah yeah but we don't get the answer I'll ask you off the thing

yeah yeah so uh I think that's that that's it yeah I think that's it so guys if you guys want to ask me some questions or ask me and a guest some questions ask rot talk at gmail.com follow follow the Instagram follow the tick talk um you can find this shit through my socials I appreciate all the fucking love also check out Mike everything you have uh Instagram what are you all your shit what do you want to say hey big Mike it I mean on Instagram I mean on Instagram night shift and Paul's I mean they know where to find it I appreciate the love man for real thank you for being

awesome bro it's always good chopping it up see you guys holy shit how often clips yes I love how you called out the fofano thing is the only thing you're right you're right hold on there's other shit of red look red but it's just like yeah wait but curious because I know you said a long time

ago on impulsive thought that you were going to transition your book into a movie is that still a thing like are you still oh i know it's just that it's kind of bit of a bit of a sense so i mean i mean we'll see what happens there's been a lot of movies about the opium shit lately a lot of stuff coming out don't say the show it's not even that it's i mean it's not me making it i'm i'll only do it if a studio picks it up i'm like i've been working on a documentary for like the last like two years really crazy shit really hopefully it'll be on netflix i love that because i've never done i've never done my own long form project obviously did flat earth with logan it was the most fun i've ever had

entire life. That was crazy. Wait, we were talking about that earlier today that Sylvie's a flat earth, I remember. Yeah, Sylvie's a butter, yeah. But not actually. It was a joke. Oh, yeah, yeah. There was the one dude that was suiting us, and then his rocket crashed.

You guys talked about that. Because he was like, yeah, I'm gonna go fly it to the top so I can see how flat they're to take things to put you guys. And it just exploded. Wait, what? Yeah, he was like me and then his rocket crash and he died. It was the weirdest fucking thing ever, yeah. Man, my cues, dude.

I would never wish that upon anybody. It was just a weird. just a weird circumstance and where like that happened that's the other thing like about me and loads relationship too is just like we have so many things that like couldn't actually be real that are so real like bro like we were getting sued we had a multi like hundred thousand dollar lawsuit plus jail time like it was a lawsuit heavy and the person who was suing us went in a rock a self-made rocket ship and crashed and died like bro what the what though and that's just like one side story of like the million fucking things that we've

Super fucking random, man. We do get to do, like, it's funny, because, like, obviously, like, now from the outside, because they show everything, like, live this, like, crazy shit. And they do, like, don't get me wrong. It's fucking crazy.

But, dude, like, some of the people that we, like, globally rub elbows with and, like, do shit with, it's just weird. You know what I'm saying? It's just, it's just insane. You can't even put a lot of stuff. No, none of it.

None of it can ever even be talked about. It's, like, it's fucking weird, like, fucked up shit. Like, it's awesome. It's fucking, because we leave and even haven't been through, so much of it, we'll debrief after and just be like, dog, did that just happen?

Like, did that really actually just happen? Like, it's just fucked up shit, weird shit, bro. Even, like, maybe 10 years down the line could be written about, but it's like, for now, it's just like, it's faulted. It's a forbidden. Yeah, right. Life so good, man.

Look at that. Where you came from, and I didn't do shit like that. Yeah, it's awesome. Fucking amazing. In this podcast, dude, which is awesome. Yeah. I appreciate you. I was in a flow state today.

Yeah. No, I love it, man. Always. Every time we get to hear it for real. every time in the world. I really appreciate it. It's like a sure thing, bro. Yeah.

It's like a sure thing. It's crazy.