RAWTALK - Is Sketch REAL?

Episode Date: April 2, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:09 it's going to be in. And I, dude, it's actually obviously a pleasure to meet you. I actually have no idea how long it would go. Um, you've done a podcast before, though. Did jinxies? Yeah. How much content have you actually made? Because obviously you're a streamer. You've done stuff with jinxying. How, how long have you been making content for? I've started, like, I started a year ago, so, um, yeah, I started, so I started, so I started yeah, yeah, there you go, you saw it. Yeah, perfect, perfect. I started like a year ago, so like, uh, June, June to August, and then I started off on TikTok, um, and I would just stream on there, and then eventually I started dual streaming
Starting point is 00:01:46 to Twitch, but I got, um, that's kind of when I started like last year, so I didn't, well, I wasn't really planning on any of this, you know what I mean? So it's like kind of, a little luck, a little God, a little to everything. What, what, like, what made you think you could do it? I had no clue. I did not think I could do it.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I was just, I was, like, doing it on TikTok live, like, to have fun with it type stuff. And then, like, because you don't make money off TikTok unless it's guess. And I, I mean, people that watch me know don't really, like, ask.
Starting point is 00:02:19 You're not like the MPC person being like, send me. Yeah, because I don't, I don't think it's very, like, it's not as usually, like, the best thing. Or, like. It's kind of cheap. Yeah, or it's like it ends up being like all your content or whatever, and I can't read.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Not like I can't read. I just have terrible eyesight. Like you know what I mean? Wait. Wait, which one is it? I can't, I have terrible eyesight. I can read. So like when I'm reading.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Okay. If you can't see the, the chatter. I can barely see it. I can barely read their chat. That's what makes it in the beginning, like I definitely got a lot more hate than love. And it's changed. You're just like, yo, I can't read the chat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I can just imagine you actually at home streaming now and you must have a monitor with like chat blown way up. No, it's just, I literally, I literally, I don't like looking at the number or the, I would like to read the chat sometimes, but like, that's like literally why I get like real close with it and stuff. So wait, wait, because I'm like, I'm legally blind for, not legally blind, but like I can't technically drive a car without my glasses. But the government doesn't know that yet. it's funny dude it's like it's so funny like I can't tell where you're trolling and like you're like
Starting point is 00:03:30 you're dead ass serious I'm dead ass serious I'm dead ass serious but it's so the way you say it is so funny bro I can't lie but like so like to explain like these are reader glasses from CBS so like there's a clip of me and where I'm like CBS next question that's true because like so that's why where people say
Starting point is 00:03:44 like where it starts and ends it's like it's kind of just ongoing but like so what is it is it so have you been like do you have a condition no i don't have any condition no like i'm just like just kind of yeah so when people throw labels and names out there it's kind of just like going you know i didn't put a label on it i'm just having fun with it and like you know the the hand movements and motions and stuff like that that's like just me getting energy out type
Starting point is 00:04:12 like i mean there's cameras on you're like i'm not used to the well what did you call it earlier you said you have a tick well like i used to like my my my good friends and family family like no i do stuff with my fingers when i get excited so like it's like unless i when i when i'm alone like i'll be ripping it you know what i mean like but um yeah so like it's like not like turrets or anything like it's literally just like you know when i when i get excited or whatever like yeah my hands are like touch the back my head so so not so it's just like a general like sort of anxiousness oh yeah like i'm very anxious generally like i'm anxious right now but it's like yeah chill you know what i mean yeah i mean like when like when
Starting point is 00:04:52 the cameras come on, like, it's like, it's almost like a super power for you, though. Well, to me, the funny thing is like, you know, this is like a completely different environment than what I was doing, you know what I mean? Like, when you're at home and you're just looking at the camera and it's like, it's like, it's like almost like a different reality for me. I don't know. Like you get into like, I don't know, like a spot. And then like, I don't know, like it's like the hanging, like it all, it's, it creates like a flow state almost where like, you know, like you can just start ripping stuff. Yeah, it's interesting. That's why, like, when, like, I talk different versus the stream or whatever, the stream, like, people are right about that, like, Trump impersonation or whatever, but it's like, but it's like, you can catch your, catch your, you can catch it, like, you know what I mean, like you can, like, how do you know what's going to hit? Like, how do you know what people are going to like?
Starting point is 00:05:45 I have no clue. He just won't wing it. Well, like, even like the jinxie podcast, like Sid's birth, I cringed in my soul when I did it. And on there, I was like, I don't know if you're going to like that. And then it ended up being like a editor. Yeah, it went crazy. It's crazy how the internet decides what they like. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:06:01 It's definitely a thing. The first thing I saw of you, and because Steve sent it to me, was you talking about parlaying the shit and his thing. And I asked him on the full send podcast. I saw that. That wasn't real. No, I didn't with him. I mean, like, I've, you know, chicky shit.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I didn't wipe my ass and hop in the shower before and just. You've done that? You had never done that? god damn i i hate to admit i think i've done this once on vacation yeah i did i have i've done it once but it was like you ever remember of toilet paper just i mean it's not even a toilet paper thing it's more of just i like taking showers too yeah yeah it depends if it's like a clean one if it's like a messy one where it's like i know i'm gonna have to you know i don't want to get a shower and like get shit off my you got that you got the body of older shit or something
Starting point is 00:06:46 no telling what it smells like no not even that it's just the amount of i think mass that I have all my it's like sometimes it's like much comes out like escargo it's pretty like escargo it's pretty it's like chewed up crawfish I'm just kidding just because you eat food or what I do you have a terrible diet I eat like right after I stream or like usually I just eat like a late lunch slash early dinner and then like a you just order you just order food you're like yeah it's pretty bad dude I've been ordering oh my god it's so bad because I'll stream a little You actually jumped on my stream and I didn't know
Starting point is 00:07:22 you donated 20 subs It was funny on Twitch And I was like You know, I appreciate that for real You're my brother No, I really appreciate that And it was funny because I didn't know I hadn't seen your actual Twitch
Starting point is 00:07:32 And everyone was like Well that's like actually sketch And I went and looked And I was like okay So were you just randomly on Like how do you find it? What do you mean? Like did you set C years?
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yeah you were just randomly on Twitch You popped up on the left side So like when the left side has the random Oh they actually put me up there? Yeah So like I saw you there on there so I think like I don't know how it I never saw you before then like it was like crazy it's like soon as it's like the internet knew that we knew each other or something yeah like we were gonna get closer yeah and and do you do you browse Twitch regularly like or do you like I like to watch other people I'll watch some kick stuff like I'll just watch to see what like like you know there's people I watch for like entertainment and there's also people you know watch like maybe study see what they're doing ideas yeah like you know Kyson that's a great person to watch just because he's really crazy creative than has. Yeah. He just did that whole, that whole Red Dead Redemption thing. Yeah, that was
Starting point is 00:08:26 genius. And that was funny. And the way he role played the whole thing and like, and he's still doing it right now. He's probably pulled up. Yeah. He's, he's creative with the concepts on the streaming. How do you create your concepts? How do you, how do you know, like, okay, obviously I know we talked about winging it. But how do you know what you're going to do on stream? You just, you don't. You're just like me, bro. I just, I just, I just, I just get it. I just get it. I just get in there and then like and that's where other people like ask like if I like try to
Starting point is 00:08:54 pre-play in jokes or something. It's more like you know if anyone who knows that a freestyle rap like you can't just like yeah you can't try to play in a bar and a freestyle like it comes like it's kind of like a you kind of have it or you don't that's why you get in a flow state because you have to be thinking like a step ahead of
Starting point is 00:09:10 before the internet how do you always kind of been like this sort of character in a sense have you always had this sort of character? Not real did people think you were funny growing up like some people thought I was funny some people didn't think it was funny. I mean, like, like, everyone else type thing. But, like, I had some, I mean, my roommate was very, you know, he's a great guy. Nguer Cooper. Yeah. Name drop. Free ad. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:09:30 No, you're getting it. Whatever. Shit. He, uh, what should we call it? He, like, you know, told me I was funny, told me I should do stand-up type of shit. And like, it's like, those small compliments that you don't realize, like, later's, like, kind of get, kind of get, like, I don't know, because, like, you can either listen to the one hate comment or the one love comment and it's like your reality is what you kind of chew on a hundred percent yeah it's what you're willing to take in and make a part it's it's on the inner there's so i would say there's so much more hate than there is like love
Starting point is 00:10:03 yeah and i'd get you got really lucky i don't know why like everyone's been really nice to me um i mean just i mean creators and then also mostly like i mean like just people in the yeah comment sections are very well it seems like a super genuine like you could tell you you wing it but winging it is just because it's genuine. Yeah, like, that's like where, like, it's like, character slash not, it's like literally just me like, when the camera comes on and I could, you just kind of like turn it up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yeah, and then like you get nervous with all the other stuff. Like, it's kind of. With nervous with what stuff? I just, I'm pretty anxious just in general. Like I was, yeah. So I saw therapist before, you know, like that. Yeah, yeah. No, I get it. But, um, well, still, but not, not anymore.
Starting point is 00:10:44 But like he, I kind of ghosted him. You ghosted your therapist? he's a great guy though dude you shouldn't you probably shouldn't ghost them well it's like uh you should go back i i go to therapy i just yeah it's just i need it same yeah it's good it is good it's just uh i was like i gotta do this that too i was like yeah that type shit what was your childhood like good loving parents you know grew up at a really great place um great sisters great family all that type of stuff yeah um really blessed in that sense
Starting point is 00:11:19 and then do you deal with any and do you ever deal with any bully or anything like that? No. Like I mean like I would like
Starting point is 00:11:25 um my school that I went to is not very like there was like no old fashioned boys like you know it was big I graduated with like
Starting point is 00:11:35 1,200 people. Yeah. So like you know hung out with my group and then you know I just I just hung out
Starting point is 00:11:42 with the boys it's pretty much like you know yeah it's cool though like I've been like I've been like I've been like I've been like
Starting point is 00:11:48 I love hanging out with my buddies, but I'm more of like a, you know, to describe high school, it was more like, um, instead of booze in and go to bars, like it was more like blunts and basketball for me. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yeah. Which is fun. It's good. It's a good, it's a good thing. Do you, do you, uh, don't smoke. You don't smoke? No, you should not smoke.
Starting point is 00:12:13 It's very, I can't stop. No, I just kidding. I can't stop. It's just, uh, I love it. Or not love it. That's probably just too much. No, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:12:20 It's okay. Obviously, like, you know, we're not saying, yo, you guys are watching. You got to smoke. You should smoke, but, you know. It's not a good habit to start. It's just, it's probably, I guess I'll put that up there for me.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I don't know. If I could, if I could wave a wall and be sober from everything, that would be awesome. Yeah. But I do love beer. Beer's pretty good. Beer's pretty good. You do beer or you drink beer.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I do a little bit about, but I'm not really big in anything. I'm super big on like anything in moderation, really. Same. So I just like, I noticed like the marijuana thing, for example, there was a time where I probably smoked way more than I should have. And looking back on that time, I didn't really feel the best. Just to be fair. There's moments when I hit it right and I'm like, oh, this is so perfect.
Starting point is 00:13:02 But then there was so many other moments where I was like, this is too much. I'm surprised you do it because like with my anxiety, and if I smoke and get too high, it's like, tear. I have no clue which started it. Like, it's like I was like more like when I was graduating high school, I started getting it. But, like, don't know if it was, like, that or, like, the weed part of it. So it's, like, the chicken or the egg type thing, but, like, fucking... But when you smoke and you get, how, do you get more anxious? It's more of, like, routine now.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I mean, like, I'm usually pretty big when I'm streaming. I'm ridiculously... That's hilarious. Like, uh, when I was that... Oh, fuck, well, I guess I'll say it, but Zach who is his house? Like, he doesn't smoke or anything? Yeah, yeah. But I was just ripping edibles all the whole time.
Starting point is 00:13:43 So, like, it was like... Dude, I'm so sensitive to marijuana. crazy yeah like i could only like if i eat edible i could only like two to three milligrams i eat a lot that's but it doesn't make you more anxious it's more of like i don't know it's more like just takes i get pinned to the needles when i get anxious or whatever so it's like it takes
Starting point is 00:14:03 my dad a little bit and then like you don't get a little anxious you don't eat and then like that's the other part it's like get anxious when your diet's up yeah and then you get that feeling of anxiousness and it's maybe more associated with the diet than that Not eating, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's huge.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And also not drink enough water. There's a bunch of things I think people don't drink enough water. That's definitely. I have one kidney, so like. Really? Yeah, I was born with one. I don't know what they did with it, but. What the fuck do they do with it?
Starting point is 00:14:29 What was your mom? Your mom was like, nah. To stole it or something. But it's probably worth something. I wish I had to because it, well, I don't know if I have just a blank space there or one. I can't tell if you're trolling me or not. I do have one. It's serious.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Only one. Only one. Only one. You're not trolling me. Not trolling me. Okay, I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell. So, so when you stream, like, what do you, what do you mainly stream, just games and you just chill?
Starting point is 00:14:53 Do whatever. I mean, it's mostly mad and stuff, but, like, I do, I'd start, get it, start doing GTARP stuff here soon. Oh, I can't wait for GT-A-6. Stuff like this, like, start more doing RRL stuff, but, like. Are you going to stream, are you going to stream here with Steve today? I think so. I'm pretty sure. I think, I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Oh, it's going to go crazy. I'm doing whatever he wants to do. Yeah, it'll be fun. his show his rodeo so when you when you said though you don't really read chat is it because because like when i don't reach that they just dog me for it i can't i just can't read far enough like it's like i can't read what's on your shirt right now i mean i can see the letters is that is that oh it's barbler because i feel like isn't that one of the most important parts of like being good at as a streamer is like i do make it better at it and like you know you know especially
Starting point is 00:15:43 feel bad when you miss like a subs and stuff like that but it's like um i think there's a happy medium where it's like acknowledging stuff but also like because it's almost like a tv to me it's like a tv show or whatever it's like you just you need a little bit of both yeah like you need a because if you get too too too much or like to to to to asking for it or like to just then it kind of becomes your content or whatever it's kind of hard to just to get out i see what you're saying if you just do the talking to the chat yeah that's what it is like it's good to
Starting point is 00:16:15 talk with the chat or to the chat but like if you're like uh i don't know like if you're say on tic talk live like when i was doing that stuff like people would send something say like a galaxy or whatever yeah some people will be like say say thank you for a rose take for rose like all yeah you're like listen i'm not a pc yeah yeah i get it that's kind of uh and then it's so you lose kind of like what the actual other side of the content is like what you're actually yeah i actually tell people on my ticot live i'm like tell them don't gift to me Like don't send Just watch live
Starting point is 00:16:48 That's why I got off TikTok too now It's more just Twitch too Yeah Do you have a personal relationship With Twitch? Like have they reached out to you To say like hey Guy that I can talk to now
Starting point is 00:16:59 Like as it last week Oh that's dope See we got a deal here working That's dope Hopefully Yeah yeah Because you said you've been doing it for one year And how many followers you have on Twitch now?
Starting point is 00:17:11 525,000 something like that That is insane And that's from like no other You weren't like on I got really lucky with the, with the clipping. The first clip that went around to me was me hang cleaning my friend's balls. Hang cleaning? Like, he was like, hold, cup your hands, hold this, whole bun nuts.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And I had hang cleaned it. Well, not in real life, like, clip to clip, whatever. I see what you're saying, yeah. But, yeah, like. So you didn't have, you weren't like Instagram, you weren't like, I didn't have any of that stuff. You kind of a little TikTok. That's what I started realizing was like,
Starting point is 00:17:43 but once it started doing better, I was like, oh, I should. probably go take these handles and then some people wouldn't start taking them yeah that's super like someone took my snapchat one dirty yeah no no that's good yeah fuck them dude great guy they'll be like they'll be like yeah give me money it's like you did you're an I didn't even ask for it I just changed the L till 1 or whatever yeah it's like if it it's not like a big deal no that's a weird thing too is like you get like when you get clipped and stuff or whatever it's like how did you get into the clipping was it was it like because of jinxie or
Starting point is 00:18:15 It was more before then, and then that's how Jigsie found me. And then, like, being what Jigsie definitely made it go up for. Yeah. But it was the first one, and I think that people know it's just like you can make, you can make, you can make, you can make good money on TikTok if you make like in a minute long video. So people in the beginning, like one guy was doing very successful. Just clipping your content. You know what if he was like going like, it's like, man, you got to be killing it. made this much money i was like i have not even close that's funny yeah i i i've know some clippers of
Starting point is 00:18:49 mine who like this something's meant i don't know how many months ago but like right when it really started going crazy on ticot this dude was making like 60k a month yeah no they can make real money like i was like i mean i probably made like i mean off ticot less than yeah less than five thousand dollars or whatever yeah which is i mean that's a great number great amazing money but like that relative what the clipper was thing yeah no the clip It's like I've been 15 last month. Yeah, the clippers do it right. Yeah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:19 That was over the entire time I streamed on TikTok was like, career. So some random guy was just like, I'm going to clip this guy. And he kind of like. It was a dude in the Army because I talked to him. The reason he was doing it is because you can't have TikTok in military. You're trying to describe or show who I was? Wait, so he couldn't, he couldn't have his own TikTok. he could
Starting point is 00:19:45 it was the other dudes in the military that were his buddies and he was trying to show them who I was and no one he didn't, it's not like he could make a clip and I was streaming on TikTok so it wasn't like a Vod type thing so like to show them
Starting point is 00:19:56 he started making a clips oh and it just took off he started posting them and then he started making good money and then other people started taking off yeah yeah is it hey what's going on
Starting point is 00:20:07 what the fuck is going on oh okay no you guys are great i didn't that's i there's random i have no idea i know that's nothing to do with me that's for you but there we go i have nothing to do with that that's great that's perfect um got the dallas cowboys here you're so okay sorry got super sidetracked um so the clipper guy is he still like does he still work with you now he wasn't working with me he was he did it for himself yeah he did for himself yeah but do you work with him now like is it like is it he still
Starting point is 00:20:42 just does it i haven't it's my it's my i don't it's my YouTube but like the people will clip it and like the sweet medium between the two was like when other people started doing it like it started getting more stress. How many clippers do you think you have? I have no clue. The funny thing is like you'll see like
Starting point is 00:20:57 you start scrolling through and you see like a video yourself with like I've bumped across one like a million likes that I haven't seen before and I was like what the fuck? Yeah. But then like it makes sense hindsight when like you get random follower jumps. Yeah. I don't like I got like 1.1 million followers on
Starting point is 00:21:17 TikTok now but I got 4 million likes so it's like like like to follow ratio yeah it's nuts yeah it's like not because I don't post on it but why do you think why do you think people will love you so much I have no clue I just think I don't know it's just fun you know like the content is just like
Starting point is 00:21:36 bull and what the boys type stuff yeah yeah keep it wheeling wheeling and dealing um yeah so like it's like i mean that's why it's like fun fun to me and fun in all that aspects that's like where you know talking about doing brand deals and stuff now it's like i don't know if i what to do or what to think yet because it's like going i'd rather just have fun like being able to just come here whenever i wanted to
Starting point is 00:22:02 is like you know what's worth something to me i see yeah it definitely gets interesting i mean obviously money starts getting involved and it changes the pace of things sometimes Do you have, like, a team and people who, like, help you? I got, like, I go, I have, like, an agency or whatever for, like, or you talk about, like, the, like, for helping. Help, like, just help you with organizing stuff, like, like, Kyle helps me with that pretty much everything. And then, like, the YouTube is just, like, you know, send a vaude over, they got that all edited up and stuff. And then, I mean, that's all I really do is Twitch and YouTube. I'm a more of a YouTuber now.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, no, you're fucking YouTube's crazy. YouTube's, well, YouTube's, like. did that just convert just because of the vods that were being chopped up the vods yes sir so you like you would download you download the vods and they clip it up or chop it up or whatever yeah this is the thing about streaming that's so cool like if you hit it right like if you just streamed and had your vod saved they also then just then just become youtube videos yeah and then it's like a it's like a cheat code yeah if you can live stream what people the crazy part is like people this just there's pioneers in streaming like in the
Starting point is 00:23:11 frontier is like not even close to being what it got pushed to the ability to have like a live audience and like um you know kind of mass-produce content like is um it's definitely something that I think more people are going to start seeing the value and like the like for instance like the clipping going around like um like you end a stream and it goes on YouTube, goes on Instagram reels, TikTok, like those all like push into the
Starting point is 00:23:45 push into the I kind of lost track of what I was talking. No, like the algorithm the universe of social media. Yeah. Yeah, like becomes this, that's what I'm saying, like the first piece, if you can stream and stream well, it can translate to every other
Starting point is 00:24:00 platform. Yeah. And like because like, I don't know, like the yeah, like because I can see a world where, you know, I know Amazon Prime streams on or, it turns out of football streams on Amazon Prime, but like I can see a world where they start licensing it. I think
Starting point is 00:24:17 he said Destrolin was like the first one to do that. Or Nick Berg's? He licensed on Amazon Prime? Or like they could, they could like stream games or something. Oh shit. And the other thing, so before I even started streaming, what I did was, and there's
Starting point is 00:24:35 probably clips of it, but for Thursday, or for my friend's group, I just, I've live streamed our, so the way our fantasy group finished, there's 12 people in it. We took, you drafted, paste on you finished, so if you finished first, you got to draft first. Yeah. Like the Chiefs. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:51 And then the last person gets whatever. And then you do like a bracket, but you don't play. We were just simming the games, and I was announcing them. So, like, I was like, I turned off the announcer, and we'd sim them, and we'd make them, like, two-minute quarters. and uh and the games would like all go to overtime like that so like um that was like the first like and that was like you know that was just like example of like having fun for that like you know like that was like I stream that on Twitch and that was with my all right guys
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Starting point is 00:26:42 to be better at that's how I do it so if you guys want to give it a shot schedule 35 dot CO putting code rottock 50% of your order right now today what was your first stream what was your first stream ever my cousin's stream my brother in law streams he um um he does survival games and stuff like that yeah so I just I just stream with him but um yeah then i just eventually got into got into madden and madden was just so much funner to interact with other people and then just like you're good at madden i've gotten better better but i're not really good i suck at those games it's hard as fuck i'm so bad at sports games i hate it's sorry for cussid
Starting point is 00:27:22 no no you're good i'm so bad at those games i'm good at shooters yeah dude i like shooters i like pause, but crazy, but yeah. Yeah, like, I don't know, like it's just not been a lot of great games that come out recently. I mean, that's why I wait for GTA 6.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I cannot wait for GTA 6. Those are going to be fun. I can't wait for that. I feel like, it feels like it's never going to come out, though, because they keep saying, oh, they might push it back. We've got to start a gang here. I know. How do we, like, get them to, like,
Starting point is 00:27:50 I feel like GTA has, like, the largest audience ever. I know. That's why I think when, like, the role, the role playing, like, stack swapo he's awesome like yeah like i think that's gonna when gtay six is gonna come out it's like
Starting point is 00:28:04 are you gonna go are you gonna stream that for sure i'm trying to like trying to figure out how to how to do it i just need to get like i don't have great internet connection to my thing so like running wait what you don't have good internet i don't need i need an ethernet cable because you run off wifi well get an ethernet what the fuck i know i know i know you order that bitch on the fucking amazon
Starting point is 00:28:27 dude i just like i don't like it's weird there's a lot of things i do and don't do like i don't like white coats white coats or like i don't like you know like not like not like oh i see a white coat more like white coats like uh doctors oh yeah does that give you anxiety yeah this is like this is like yeah i've i tore this thing in my thumb here yeah and it's just been like that for a couple years toward what like a thing in the legmate seat how'd you do it play basketball you just been like that
Starting point is 00:29:01 just because you avoided the white coats damn but then that's also so like I went and got my I did not like how my eye test went so like I was just
Starting point is 00:29:09 trying to get out of there yeah yeah I got to turn my shirt boom got it but um yeah I didn't what were we talking about no it's like you said
Starting point is 00:29:21 you didn't like the white coats felt like there was something else oh yeah like so like I went to the eye doctor and it was just like I hate putting and shit next to my eyes. You were thought about getting LASIC?
Starting point is 00:29:29 I'm the hell no. My sister got it, but I'm not doing it. Hell no. No? No, dude. What if he's a perfect vision? She could read the chat all day. She got nervous or whatever and, like, said it was like the worst experience ever,
Starting point is 00:29:40 but she was glad she did it. And I was like, that's all I needed to hear. Oh, you're going to avoid it? Oh, yeah. But what if you could read chat? It. Sorry, you're a question. You're hilarious.
Starting point is 00:29:51 You're hilarious. I love them. Oh, my gosh. It's so funny. But, bro. dude uh yeah so like for instance my prescription came in and i was just trying to get out of there so i was just like and like i didn't know how the doctor's test went so they kept just doing it back and forth they're going like well this one's a different answer than you gave last time and i was like going like
Starting point is 00:30:12 so they gave me they gave me my prescription but these aren't prescription okay but when they gave me my prescription one side was like five times more powerful than the other so it was like making me nauseous to put him on so i was like i'm never going back so it was the the variance was that much or it's just that day you just felt a little more but i was just more like trying to get out of there like it's you know how they you're just like yeah that one's okay was i was like trying to read the room i was like going like get me out of yeah like it's like because he's trying to i don't know trying to get it too i was like i'd rather just have like pretty good tight with uh yeah i get it no so laisic's never in the in the picture you're never going to do it even if you have perfect vision
Starting point is 00:30:51 If things start going downhill here My eyesight's got way worse Over the past three years So it's just been And I had to get glasses And then they said my prescription changed Or they wouldn't give me new glasses On my prescription
Starting point is 00:31:06 I got into a car crash And then my glasses fell off in the car How'd you get a car crash? I thought I had a green light And you just It had So there's this two-lane road to do Road work on it
Starting point is 00:31:19 One coming this way One coming this way were to turn in it had two green lights and it was it was a yield too so you know i guess i don't know why i took the turn there i mean i got blindsided so it was like air blacks deployed toy to coma great car great truck but um yeah no that was not great but uh it was how long ago was last or like like 12 months ago or something probably like it was like no it's probably eight months ago. Yeah. What do you have the most fun doing right now? Do you really enjoy making content? It's all right. Like I mean like being on camera or like being on live stream could be
Starting point is 00:31:58 stressful sometimes but at the same time I'd as long as you keep the fun part of it. Like you know what I mean? Like that's why it's like the talking about the bringing brands or whatever into it. It's like that's when you make it a job or whatever and that's kind of what I wasn't. Yeah. I was doing it for fun. So like and it wasn't expecting it's crazy how fast it happened. for you. I have no clue how it happened. It's fucking it's cool, though. I mean, like, you used to watch you. Yeah, that's cool. I appreciate it. And now I'm here. So, so who did you watch
Starting point is 00:32:24 growing up that you, that you, that you like? I know you watch Steve as well. Like, you're talking about, like, uh, creators? Or like streamers? Streamers, creators, whatever. I would watch, like, random stuff, like, aviation stuff. I would watch, like, uh, like, there's a damn dude named Sam Chee. He does, like, just go on, like, planes.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I don't know. I hate flying. So, like, it's like, it's like, it's kind of a thing. You watch a dude who go on planes and you hate flying i hate flying so it's like you're getting fascinated with like you know seeing shit on emirates like like i like i like i like i like i like when i fly like i have to use how was the helicopter coming in here today was that was that scary my nuttwer in my throat there yeah it was cool as well it was cool yeah you're a little scared though oh i was yeah i was starting to get nervous in there he was fucking it was nervous i'm not gonna lie i'm all i'm
Starting point is 00:33:10 helicopters even though they're like they're decently safe they always catch me out too Same with planes. I hate to it in a plane and you just look up and you just see like the tube, but it's like kind of slanted. I like to look out the window. I don't know what it makes it, but it makes me like reason with like turbulence. I go like,
Starting point is 00:33:26 oh, we just hit a, we hit a cloud there. Dude, I hate flying. Yeah. And I would fly so much. You get to a point where it just like becomes like,
Starting point is 00:33:35 like getting on a bus or something. Yeah. I always said like say fuck fine. I would never do that. But like now it's more like, sorry for cussing. But now it's more like, just don't want to miss any opportunities and don't want to I want to see the world that's the other part is I want to see the world and then like if I'd have I want to see like the seven wonders of the world really I haven't even done that yet there's like the ancient there's like the what there's ancient modern and like um the old ones like there's like there's like I forgot what the pyramids and shit well like there's some that like or the seven that were like of the pre world or whatever I didn't know that there's like uh
Starting point is 00:34:14 There's a statue of, like, I think it's, like, Babylon or something. They had a statue of a dude that was, like, literally huge. And, like, he would, you stood over, like, two parts of inlet. Like, if you took a boat, you'd go underneath his legs. Where the fuck is that? It sounds like a fucking game of throne. It's crazy. Well, that's the seven of them that, like, they, um...
Starting point is 00:34:33 Wait, so you're saying there's seven that we all kind of know, and then there's other ones. And then there's, like, the seven, like, there's seven modern ones. And then, so, like, the modern ones, like, one of them is, like, the Golden Gate Bridge. And the pyramid is a modern one. Ancient, ancient is... Aren't the pyramids a modern one? Maybe. It depends on how it's all classified.
Starting point is 00:34:48 It's all different on... So there's the ancient ones that like, you... Because I didn't even heard of those. Yeah. Like you, there's ones that like don't exist anymore, pretty much. So how the fuck are you gonna go see them? You can't see those. Those are just like, I mean, like, you can go to the sites, but like you can't, like...
Starting point is 00:35:05 They're not actually there. They're not actually there. But I want to see... What made you interested in that? I just like history and random stuff like that. Like, the other thing was I started, the way I started my, way I started my TikTok account
Starting point is 00:35:18 and like I privated to videos now but I would follow war gonzos and like so like in like two months or 90, not 90 days more like you know I think the earliest I post it was like November 30th before Russia invaded Ukraine
Starting point is 00:35:32 but I would post like videos at troop movements and stuff like that because I just I used to like day trade and then I was trying to trade often but it's hard It's like, I've lost so much money trading options. How much have you lost? Just buy stocks.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Don't trade options. How much have you lost trading options? My 20,000. That was, um, that sucks. Yeah, it does suck because that was like, I, I mean, I didn't, I'd look pretty much. Was that, like, all your money at the time? Yeah, I mean, like, I, dude, I mean, like, last year, it didn't have savings pretty much. Like, it was like, I mean, my parents were off, but, like, my side is, like, a different thing.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Like, I, I'm blessed, so, like, you know, things I don't have to worry about, but. Yeah. Was not stacking. Obviously, like, have you seen a lot of money at this point yet? Or is you kind of just coming into that now? It's getting better. It's just like I don't really, I think when you pass like X amount of dollars. After that, like, I don't, you know, coming here and seeing, well, this you're going, they get motivates you to want to do more.
Starting point is 00:36:33 But like, that's why, like, I could stream every day or whatever if I was just trying to get a check. But I was just more like, I like to, like, it's just do it for fun pretty much. And then, like, all that, I think that's what made, made it happen faster to. 100%. Um, not trying to force anything. That's also what makes it sustainable. Yeah. So like, I would, back to the work on stuff thing.
Starting point is 00:36:56 I would like, I would, like, I would, the first one that I had was, uh, wait, so you're posting clips of, so if you go on, movement of troops. Movement of troops. So, like, I mean, there's stuff like. Like, like, in real time, like, these are real time things happening. I mean, you could, I could have been wrong, but I would, like, so I follow, the way to do it is you follow, like, you know, there's work. on both sides you follow both of them and then like you'll they call out each other's
Starting point is 00:37:17 but it's like gives you more reality on like what's going on like one of them was like Armenia and Azerbaijan are two countries that are kind of like in a scuffle right now like war and a war but like you know that stuff like like see like how where can you find that data you just get on the you get on a certain Twitter feed and like I was trading like I I tried Lockheed Martin calls, and I don't know why I was trade out. I don't hit bet unders, and I don't buy puts. That is kind of, that's kind of the play there. So that's why my sports betting and investment portfolio, not very good.
Starting point is 00:38:01 So when Trump, Trump airstriked General Soleimani or whatever, I had. This was years ago. Years ago. So he airstriked him on a Thursday. I had a call that I bought for like a couple hundred bucks. And like it went down to literally a dollar. So it's sitting in there and I'm like going like, I don't even want to look at this anymore. Like should I?
Starting point is 00:38:25 Wait, so what are you actually betting on? That was like, that was pure luck. I did not know that he was going to airstrike to General Solomani or whatever. But I literally woke up. It went from $1 to like it was worth over a grand. But that was because Lockheed Martin went sky high. And that was like, I don't know, that kind of generated the fascination with them.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Because, I mean, it's also a dark hole. Because then you get like down to, you start thinking World War III is going to break out of me every fucking second. Yeah, dude. But Fred's kind of got sick. The world is this crazy as shit right now. But like, I'll, you want to see you? It's so weird, man.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Yeah, so wait, where do you, are you like the dark web? Like, where the fucking you find in this kind of shit? It's on Twitter. I feel like... Pre, pre, what it was actually Twitter, too. Let me see, I'll show you. But, like, how can, how can you verify these things are, like, legit? Do you can't?
Starting point is 00:39:19 So, like, some people, like, some people would post them, and then, like, you'd find out later that it's, like, some of its propaganda. So, like, I was, I mean, like, some of it, so when, that stuff didn't take off until, until after, until after the invaded, and then all of a sudden it went to the algorithm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:37 But it was more of, like, I would just post, stuff because I'd send it to people and they'd be like, where'd you find that? So for the most part, I'm trying to figure this out. Like, so you started just posting random kind of stuff. I just wanted to demonetize the account to like try to, uh, try to get to like, you know, like how other people just post like, yeah, yeah, yeah, be like a clipper almost. Yeah. And that's like, so when I started streaming, I had like 6,000 followers on TikTok and, um, I would,
Starting point is 00:40:07 I took that and then like I would, uh, I just, I don't know, the TikTok algorithm is pretty aggressive. So if you get it on it, it's, it's definitely, we'll serve you right if you. Yeah, because your YouTube goes crazy, huh? The YouTube's gotten better. It's definitely gotten better. It's just getting new to it. And then I got great guys or like, you know, great team.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Do you ever plan to shoot, like, vlogs? Yeah, I just don't know how, I get nervous around having a camera around people. You don't know what some people are going to say. And then also, like, you just got to find the right, you got to find the right group. Yeah. And then, like, don't want people to, you. don't want to have, I don't want to put a camera on someone that doesn't want to have a camera on on them, that thing. And then just like the anxiousness part of it too, where you're like going
Starting point is 00:40:47 like, has, has, has making content, uh, I mean, this is kind of, would this be one of your first sort of things outside of what you've done and obviously what you've done with jinxie? Would like, this be one of the first things? One of the first ones. So I think the more you do it, the more you'll be less anxious overall. Yeah. And I think that's, um, that's a goal. Yeah. But, um, um, Yeah, no, it's, it's definitely a, that's what's crazy is I would never have thought I would have, I never wanted to be on camera, really.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Like, I was like, yeah, well, you thought you were going to make military clipping videos. Well, it's like, I don't even like, like, public speaking or anything. Yeah. But, like, it's more of gotten into, like, the funny thing is, like, the part that made it fun for me was, like, not giving a, so, like,
Starting point is 00:41:32 just over time. That's an art, though, dude. That's an art nowadays. Yeah. The internet's so goddamn talks. like people just just tear as apart. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:44 So how do you not let it get to you? How do you not give a fuck? I mean like some of it does get to you so it's just like more like disconnecting. What do people say to you that gets to you? It's more like this man you can't read. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Because you can't see the chat. I would more feel bad about that stuff where people think I'm trying to impersonate something like you know what I mean? Like not like when it gets down like a rabbit hole that's when it makes me like more because I can take the punches I don't I don't want
Starting point is 00:42:15 anyone to think like I like it's it's like I mean I don't it's like there's YouTubers I don't like you can like someone and not watch your content type stuff so it's like some people just like see your stuff and just want to go like hey by the way
Starting point is 00:42:33 you like you I mean it's also because you're popular yeah I guess it goes with it goes to use you to get some views on TikTok. Yeah, and it goes both ways. So it's like, you know, that's where, you know, knowing to hold on to the good versus the bad and like what you chew on becomes like. So what people think that you're like, you're just making it up?
Starting point is 00:42:53 Well, it's like, it's like a character. But at the same time, it's like, that's like how I feel when I'm on camera. Like this is like, I don't know if I was sitting here trying to like make icon do this type of shit or whatever. Like, you know what I mean? Like it's more like, that's why it's like just settling into a, to a gig. Well, I get it now because when I was watching and I see the videos that you're talking about where people say, oh, he's this, he's that. And now that I'm with you in person, I get it.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Yeah. And like it's like, it's very, it's very like blurry. I get, and people like, I don't, it's not like the speculation or whatever. It's more of like when some people, like, think that it's like actually like, you know, trying to make fun over at the expense of someone else. Like that's not the incidental. I don't think you're doing that at all. Yeah, like, that's where it's like, you know, it's just hand jessers and like, you know, a little bit of a Morty voice or whatever, you know what you're, like the hand gestures is like
Starting point is 00:43:46 when you're chilling like, like on live stream, like it's, I don't know, it's like, this is a much more comfortable setting almost than that or whatever, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know, when there's live eyeballs, it's like, it's like, yeah. That's why I don't go live all the time. It's, like, kind of like, stressful. Yeah, it's definitely stressful. Like, it's definitely more kind of something that I'm not used to 24-7. so the first time you did it you said was with your brother-in-law
Starting point is 00:44:09 brother-in-law and I was just like I mean like streaming I did the same thing like streaming to one person on Twitch and all that stuff and then I went to TikTok found out went there solo with stream on there and then eventually so when I came back to Twitch and kind of was after doing the TikTok stuff how quick did it go like boom boom boom um flabbing with Jixie was like the biggest thing that was like
Starting point is 00:44:33 and it's just crazy how much that stuff has helped shouted to jinxie love you brother you guys got a good relationship yeah no he's we talk off stream like he's one of my he's solid he's sharp yeah and like I mean I haven't run across any creators that I
Starting point is 00:44:48 that I that haven't had like great conversations or like genuine interactions with and that's kind of like when people hit me up to like try to do something or if I try to do something with someone I usually try to talk to them beforehand
Starting point is 00:45:04 and like just so I know the vibe and they know like you know I don't want to go and start just like
Starting point is 00:45:10 all of a sudden roasting a guy and it's like they go like what the it's like yeah you won't get that
Starting point is 00:45:14 around here yeah I'm used to that Steve yeah yeah so you watch again
Starting point is 00:45:19 I want to bring so you used to watch me and Steve what other content creators did you watch um I mean like
Starting point is 00:45:24 you know the Knop Boys it was more of like I mean back to like it was like Sam Chi that chapter yeah
Starting point is 00:45:31 more stuff like that in sports and then like I would just play it was like um I didn't watch streamers too much beforehand it was more YouTubers yeah I didn't have a Twitch account until I made one personally and it was that's crazy I don't I don't know anyone who's had that like that much success that fast on Twitch I got very lucky insane you got to hit a blessing there yeah God is great God is good yeah but um yeah it's like always man yeah I have I have no clue like that's it's like it's like you know, text with
Starting point is 00:46:07 Kaisenot now off stream like that's a dude that like beforehand was like Drake to me you know what you're like? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean like in the in that industry
Starting point is 00:46:17 he is. Yeah, no he is like that's what's crazy it's like you guys would bang on stream. Yeah, we're planning something here soon we're supposed to do something
Starting point is 00:46:27 that's a great guy too like talk about you know genuine interactions he's been, yeah he's been awesome um what other big streamers do you tell you ever talked to aiden um i've texted with him i think he has more of like a phone number got leaked too so like oh he probably got so like i had new numbers probably all the time and then he also has like a manager and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:46:50 that's where when um well just like back to the you know when it squared things up before i get on live stream someone so they know like or no like you know like you know i you didn't keep everything like um i just don't want to surprise anyone with like be like oh all of a sudden i'm you know if you get on someone and i was like hey this guy doesn't cuss like i know caseo doesn't cuss so like i was like trying to try not to try trying not to cuss on his stuff and i did a couple times but like you know trying to try to respect the boundaries or whatever but it's like unless you let it lay him out then it's hard to yeah that makes sense so who do you think you're most excited to make content with right guys andette
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah. Guys and that. And then, I mean, like, Steve's, like, this is, like, crossing off, Steve, like, Steve was up there. Like, I mean, you're up there. Like, it's, like, I don't, like, it's hard to even, like, conceptualize. It's, like, going, like, you know, like, everyone's, like, yeah, like, it's a completely different space, like, then I'm, like, I literally, I didn't have, like, a really, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:59 I've had, like, a, I wasn't really big in social media before. Like, my personal account has, like, 200 followers, but... Yeah. So it's like... So what is it like? Is it overwhelming, or... It can be overwhelming, but it's all, like, you know, just taking it a day at a time. I think when, you know, getting past that or, like, getting out of your head on it,
Starting point is 00:48:19 it's like when it gets... Fun. Yeah. Yeah. And, yeah, so that's, like, I don't know, it's... That's what, like, this whole thing has been... I mean, every day, it's like, I wake up and go, like, what the fuck is going on? they think it's cool they think they support me 100% like they're great parents
Starting point is 00:48:38 and all that stuff yeah but it's definitely like you know it's not like my mom my mom didn't know who kaisenat was so it's like going yeah yeah he's like Drake and she's going well who's Drake like he's like the Beatles you didn't know either of yeah it's all good yeah but it's just like I mean that's just the whole it's crazy how as big as the world is and yeah how small it'd be how small it becomes, yeah. Yeah. And then you just like,
Starting point is 00:49:06 you know, it's weird getting off like, from screen to this. It's like, you know, and like, you were like a, you were like a fortnight skin almost to me. It's not like,
Starting point is 00:49:16 yeah, like you're just like an internet, an internet personality, so it's like you're, it's almost like you weren't real. That is hilarious statement. So it's like, I think that's where the disconnection
Starting point is 00:49:24 between the people that like leave real hate and the people that like, do know the value or the weight of the words. Like, yeah. That's where like, you know because it's real i mean
Starting point is 00:49:36 yeah dude yeah like that exactly so it's like those dudes are like you know usually younger more immature people yeah but um I don't know some of them some of them are dark and then some of them are like sorry for casting like they're they're pretty funny
Starting point is 00:49:54 like sometimes like you know yeah yeah I mean dude but like I mean like I had a dude say like he wanted to stab me in the stomach but it was like going like I almost thought that was funny because I like, I carry. So it's like, but like, more,
Starting point is 00:50:08 more, Texas baby, let's go. Well, more funny because, like, it's like going like, dude,
Starting point is 00:50:12 you have to be a full blown psycho to, like, I'm playing madden, brother. Like, like, chill the fuck out. Like,
Starting point is 00:50:19 I don't know. What do you? I'm, it's not like I'm running for office here. Yeah, yeah, dude. You could stroll. It's like,
Starting point is 00:50:25 you skip it. Go somewhere else. No, it's weird, but that's part of the game, and people just like, I think they just want a reaction more than anything. they want you to say something or like to ban them or whatever it is and that's kind of like why
Starting point is 00:50:35 I think the not reading the chat has gone positive in some ways and then like you know I just I want to get better at it but it's like yeah that's one of the things that you got to fix the eyes first and I think I probably would have maybe stopped or slowed slowed down if I could read the hate in real time yeah well it's like one thing to see a comment like you know like on a screen you're going like you can get away from but then when you like if you read it in real time you go live is crazy
Starting point is 00:51:05 and they just keep going until you see it yeah like they'll say something and then you go and kind of like yeah you're like that one kind of hit that one got you kind of got me there that one kind of hit
Starting point is 00:51:16 I've been there yeah dude so would you say that like that's the harder part of streaming like what do you think the hardest part of streaming is I mean it's probably different
Starting point is 00:51:28 for everyone And for me, it's just like the, I mean, it's just like a lot to deal with. I mean, it's just like, I don't even, like, saying taking a date of time, like I have no clue what's going on, really. It's like, that's the best way. Yeah. And that's what makes it fun, too, is like, I don't know. Are there, what do you think about the platforms that are out there right now?
Starting point is 00:51:50 Like, you know, the whole, like, the beef with Twitch and kick and, like, rumble's kind of there. I mean, I like, I like all of them. It's just, like, it all depends on what the people. Like, I'd like to sports bet and gamble, so it would be nice to be able to do that on Twitch. That's why I like kick, and I like some of the creators over there. It's more just, like, of, I mean, Twitch, the hard thing for me is, like, Amazon Prime subs. Like, that's, like, that's, like, it's just like, you know, it's like.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Which you can't do the gambling there properly, no. Yeah, it's so, but, like, I mean, the Amazon Prime stuff is just, like, it's such a great thing to have. Because so many people have that already. Streaming with jinxies, so, like, they can go back and. forked on the same platform like you know um that's why i haven't like collab with a kick streamer yet but it's more just like because of that because of that aspect like then then um what do you think going in collabing with a kick streamer would affect your relationship on twitch no i don't think at all it's more of like uh like being on being on twitch
Starting point is 00:52:52 like there's so much more and i i like i'm kind of more of a believer in like trying to build the trying to build on a plat like one platform there's good reasons to like multi stream but like um it's easier to it's less stuff to monitor it's like easier to i see what you're saying but um like so say if i do a stream with kaisenad or something or like someone someone like that it's like they they can go back and forth on the same platform on the same platform and then just being on it like i've got more you know start clicking on other creators like a dude i want to i want to like do something with flight that would be cool yeah Um, like, he's a Twitch guy.
Starting point is 00:53:30 So it's like, um, yeah. And that's like, I get what you're saying, because it's like in the ecosystem already. Yeah. So that's kind of the, that's kind of the reason.
Starting point is 00:53:39 And then the Amazon Prime thing is just like the, the main reason for like the, yeah, because it's so accessible. Yeah. So many people already have it. Yeah. That's like Amazon Prime subs is like,
Starting point is 00:53:52 yeah. Like I would, I would, I would, uh, how many subs do you have? Um, or average. 15,000. or something um yeah it's gotten pretty cool yeah it is cool yeah that like um and i think it's
Starting point is 00:54:07 like a lot of the amazon prime stuff and then um my buddy put it like a or a guy that we work what does like uh he puts a bot in there so like if you put like explanation prime it would just like pull up how you do your prime sub it's fast yeah and like you like it's just like yeah and like i would go I would, I would, I would, I would stream on kicker, or something I just never, like, or even YouTube, you know what I mean? Like, it's just monitoring the one and, like, just keeping everyone on one thing. It's been, made, and then I think it's smart. I think it's smart in the beginning, for sure.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Yeah. It's, like, might as well maximize. Because I'm sure, but I can see how, like, a guy, like, XQC, streaming on both. He's a great streamer, too. That's another dude I would like to stream with. He's cool. Yeah. But, like, he, uh, he, he, he streams on Twitch.
Starting point is 00:54:56 and kick but like um so they have different kind of groups and different like um different fan bases kind of but he's big enough to where like and he does it the right way where it's like when he's on twitch he's on how would you describe the two fan bases um this is so funny to me well like the like there's just like different different like i if you're on you either spend your time on kick or twitch like i don't i don't really or for me that's how i work like i'm on nap like i'm on but how would you describe the different fan bases um like kick would kick be like there like it's it's definitely um well it's just like the moderating side of it i think is different i just never really i know i don't think it's less moderated on kick yeah
Starting point is 00:55:37 which like i don't have a i don't have a problem with the less moderation stuff or whatever like um yeah it's just like i mean it's more of just like two different markets you know what i mean it's like the NBA versus college basketball there's some of the same fans but like which Which one's NBA? Which one's NBA? I mean, well, Jeff Bezos. I love it. That's hard dude to compete with when it comes to a pocketbook.
Starting point is 00:56:01 But like, that's why, that's the other thing is like, yeah, just like, I don't know. I think, like, Thursday Night Football being on there, too is another reason I just, like, scroll through Twitch. Yeah. Yeah, but like, I mean, like, I started getting on Rumble more and stuff like that, like just like watching. It's just like, I mean, it's crazy how many. I feel like it's the only it's one of the only spaces or one of the main space. Like, there's
Starting point is 00:56:28 like, it's all over the place. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Rumble or just the streaming? No, streaming like a, like so like if you go to try to find like if you put like the top five streamers or whatever they could all be on a different platform. Yeah. And like
Starting point is 00:56:43 it's like you go to YouTube. Everyone's on YouTube. Like it's more like, you know, like a YouTuber is on YouTube. So it's not like there's a one that dominates a space. necessarily yet i see what you're saying which owns it but it's like they're pioneers right now where it's almost like or like you know it's like i get it because the streamers kind of have their own individual audience that just kind of follows yeah no matter where they are yeah and that's kind i mean i think that's how kick was pretty much created with like aiden's the whole community essentially
Starting point is 00:57:11 like moved to that platform yeah and as another dude i i want to stream with him he's awesome like yeah i would love to i like his whole group too like he's cool he's really cool um i would love to love to do something with them it's just yeah it's just like it's definitely a weird like I did like you know you didn't even know about some of the platforms like too like I just
Starting point is 00:57:34 I downloaded Twitch just like I don't know what it made me want to start streaming too I just started kind of yeah dick it around was it just because you saw other people make content and you're like it yeah so like I mean like I was just eventually like if I'm going to play so many video games
Starting point is 00:57:47 I might as well put it on try to make some money I guess I respect that and then I respect that Yeah, that's kind of, that's kind of how it started. And I had a lot of free time, because I was doing... You know, video games is how I got into the internet, too. Really?
Starting point is 00:57:59 Just obviously, it's way before, because I'm... And then you start doing steroids? Essentially, I was like, you know, I went right from video games. It was like video games, it was like, no, no, you're good, you're good. No, it was like, I played heavy in, like, World of Warcraft, StarCraft, like Diablo, these games. That's crazy. I played all those games. I like those games.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I like those games. I just never got into RPG games as much. I like to play with my buddy. Like, I would, like, I would know live video games to the point where, like, I'd have this on, and then I'd have Halo. Yeah. And I'd wait for my, but it would be, like, switch in between. I'd, like, sit in the city, like, in Warcraft, wherever it was and then play Halo game when my friend came on. I was bigger on Cold Duty before I started streaming, like, MW2 and stuff, like, the old MW2, but, like, now it's, like, completely different.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Yeah, so, so I want to explain this to you, how I got into essentially content was because of video games, because I would play so much. online that I remember thinking all I would do is I would go to the gym and I after if I wasn't working it was we work I would go to the gym and then I would play video games okay and I remember I spent so much time on the internet I'm looking at ways how do I make money on the internet because I didn't I want to just be able to go to the gym and play video games and I didn't want to have to go work somewhere else I swear to God this is a true story like hand in my mind as a young kid I must have been like 15 16 doing this And then I remember reading on the internet
Starting point is 00:59:24 And this is way before like e-commerce And way before like social media And they would talk about like oh e-commerce is going to change the world I read on these like business sites Because I was always on the computer Because I was always on those video games By the way video games taught me how to type really fast too Really?
Starting point is 00:59:38 So you know how people always say like video games are so bad bro I learned so much from video games It made my life so good I still type of one finger I type so fast I can type my fucking eyes closed But it's because like you're typing And trying to do shit and die
Starting point is 00:59:50 So anyway Were you PC the whole time? I was doing it at all. So I had a PC with the World of Warcraft, and then I would have like, I was an Xbox guy for, you know, pretty much my whole childhood. But I played every single concert you could think of,
Starting point is 01:00:03 N64, Dreamcast, Genesis, everything. So my point was, though, I was... In 64. How old are you? 34. I'm fucking you on. No, that's all good. You're good.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I'm 25. No, but I played everything. And I've just been a huge nerd. But the reason, like I would be like, I want to be able to play video games and, like, go to the gym, trying to make money on the internet and that's how i learned about instagram and that was the first thing that i took off on back in 2011
Starting point is 01:00:27 so like my whole thing started from wanting to like go to the gym eat and play video games that's in my mind i was like how could i make my life like this as i was a kid what would you say is your number one thing like or like what's your number one thing you do now uh i do so much as like income or just like in my life or like if you had to like say like your your racehorse still the gym yeah it's always the gym is for me is like like when I wake up if I'm like in my kind of like routine it's like the first thing I'm thinking of is okay I'm going to eat some food or drink some water I get ready for the gym and then gym and then I did everything else out yeah my whole life's been that way and it'd be
Starting point is 01:01:05 like I always felt good if I can get the gym done and then like you know get some food in and then I'd feel good about it all because I already did what I needed to do yeah and then it turned for me it turned into obviously like oh this is a living for me yeah that was a you know whole learning process in and of itself which like you talk about doing something you love and then involving brand deals and being like how do I find this balance which for me took a long time to really find a balance in and sometimes I still kind of you know maybe I'm more focused on the business and I should be focused on the workout but for the most part I would say yeah it's it's like wake up get food get water give me some caffeine gym and then everything
Starting point is 01:01:41 else yeah and the gym's so therapeutic that's like that's the best thing yeah like I usually try to do like um I mean I was doing better before before I started streaming, but like a, kind of, like, do a 30-minute type of workout every day. Yeah, as long as you do something, dude. Yeah, I get, like, indigestion, so it's like you can feel like the food moving out. Yeah, you get the blood flowing, makes your brain sharper. Eat too late and shit. I do, I eat way too late sometimes.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Yeah, dude, it's, that's like my... It's because when I stream, like, because I'll stream, like, not at your level, but I'll just chill, play video games at night still, have like a thousand, maybe 600, but I get baby followers, you know? What's your favorite thing to do, is it... Like, as far as in my life? Yeah. gym and then video games are very close not gonna lie very old fashion yeah no i'm a classic i'm a classic
Starting point is 01:02:26 guy i love that i love that gym and video games is like everything and eat gym video games eat and then it's a good thing too you have a girl no not yet it's hard to go on tinder now i guess i mean i'm like what the i've seen you yeah i was like yeah that's why i just kind of chill like I to describe like my day mostly like I wake up try to get to a gym yeah come home chill are you trying are you look
Starting point is 01:02:54 you ever looking for a girl you're trying to like yeah I mean like I'm like it's just like you know connection type stuff yeah don't need to like and the other thing is just moving around and like I don't know it's just it's like looking but like not really
Starting point is 01:03:11 at the same time just kind of chilling pretty much like I've always like to kind of do what I I like to be able to move whenever I want to. Without being held to something. Yeah, that's why I like, you know, like agreeing to something like long term
Starting point is 01:03:24 or like, like, with a brand deal I'm going like, well, what if I want to go to the game that day or something? Yeah, I get it. I get it. That's kind of how I look at it. But like, yeah, it's just been. Have you ever had a long-term relationship or like a... No, no.
Starting point is 01:03:41 No, no. No, that stuff, is always just evaded me but I've always been on the move I was at two different high schools I was at four different colleges so like different states different cities
Starting point is 01:03:51 so it's like since then and then just working and trying to get like the normal stuff it's like kind of drowning and everyday stuff type I get it
Starting point is 01:04:00 I understand yeah it makes sense yeah I mean dude that's a whole other that's a whole another thing to try to figure out with like all of the yeah and it's a whole other job
Starting point is 01:04:10 it's like weird and it's kind of like I don't know, I can definitely see how other people when they, when they're famous, like, I hate saying it's famous, but like, I know, I hate, I hate it too, I get you. But, like, you know, like, those people, wait, what were we talking about again? The girls, like, getting a girl and, like, having a girl, maybe you're talking about in relationship to having some popularity. Oh, yeah, like the, the relationship part of it is like, or, wait, I, I remember where I was going to go with that. I just, I have very, no, you're good, you're good. So, I mean, I, I mean, I, I mean, I. It's definitely. It's definitely.
Starting point is 01:04:42 it can be a weird thing like when there's the popularity involved and like maybe people are there for the wrong reasons now it's like um yeah for the wrong reasons maybe you're going towards that i've always like i've always had you know i've always had my my good friends that i've always hung out with but like uh you know who like it's not like i'm going oh i got to vet someone or something but it's more like there's the possibility of that being there like a hundred percent but like i've always had good good friends and you need people to look out for you for sure yeah like it's definitely a thing that's kind of that's definitely kind of sharks in this industry yeah it's kind of guys and girls I was talking to my buddy about it but it's like you kind of that's the thing with me is streaming was like as soon as you kind of step out of the behind desktop that's when I feel like drama just finds people but like I don't I don't that's my whole thing is like I don't want any drama don't try to you know like
Starting point is 01:05:42 trying to, don't say, or like, don't, like, what would it be a good way to describe it? Like, I, I don't, I've never wanted to start a beef with someone, you know, type of, like, I've never, never been like that oriented or whatever, but like, um, I lost my train at that trial, thought it there again. What was the one before that? No, no, it was just about the girl stuff. Like, had you ever, because you know how, like, you know how, um, jinxie recently, and he got the girl and Stein, he's like, uh.
Starting point is 01:06:12 yeah yeah love you lady yes hello brecky she's she's dope you've obviously met her i've talked her on the phone she's she's um you know great person from what i've what i've communicated with i've never met her in in person and it's it is crazy though how like when people have those sort of counterparts that like the internet it they go so crazy about it yeah and that's why it's crazy to even conceptualize talking to someone like a following or whatever or like i just not like this is it's not a Brad Pitt here, but you know what I mean? Like this kit that I'm wearing doesn't usually kind of like
Starting point is 01:06:46 my numbers are crossing off here. I don't know if that's going to be. That's the best way to get push. Sorry for cussing, but. No, you're good. You can cuss on this one. It's fine. There we go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Yeah, dude, you crushed this shit, dude. But, uh, funny, bro. Dude, thank you. But no, yeah, I've been doing pods for like five years, six years. Yeah. And I just genuinely like, I just can enjoy it. Yeah. I mean, this is easy.
Starting point is 01:07:12 This is running. This is easy. It's like low lift type stuff, but it's like, you know, you're very easy to hold a conversation with. So it makes it make it very easy. No, I appreciate it, man. It's good. Thank you for having me. This is fun.
Starting point is 01:07:27 It's just, I was so, like, I saw your and I was just like, what? What is this? Yeah. That's usually the reaction. I think that hits so good for you. Like, that gets so many people to be like, oh, I want to find out. and then you dance that line like is Steve on the way?
Starting point is 01:07:43 You dance that line like it's so interesting Yeah And they just have those banger moments That are hilarious Like I swear I do that parlay thing With the shit and I was like He said this to me
Starting point is 01:07:53 We were dying about it That's funny Because like it's like he personally sent it to me Have you seen this shit? And I was like Oh my God That's funny because like You realize that like
Starting point is 01:08:02 Some of those clips like Go towards different algorithms For different parts of the internet Like different Dude it's good And the golfing shit Did what Jinxie was fun. That was fun.
Starting point is 01:08:11 That was fun. You guys got to do more, like, things out like that. It's just trying to find out more stuff to plan. It's just hard to, I'm not the best at playing. Because you guys are mostly desktop, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of, I like doing desktop.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Which is crazy because Jinxie, he, he's like the most sub-streamer ever. I think so. I think so. I know he's like. Because Kai was, and if he is now, because like, didn't Jincy have like a hundred and 70 years? I don't know what he said. I have, I have, that's great. Like an insane number.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Yeah. And that's where I don't even know, like, personally. Like, I have subs and then, like, active subs of knowing, like, what the difference is between all that. So I really appreciate you coming on. Dude, thank you for having me. It's been fun. Yeah, you crushed it.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Dude, thank you. You're funny. You're way funnier in person, too, by the way, which is great. That's awesome. It's good to hear. Yo, what's good? What's up, brother? The man of the house?
Starting point is 01:08:59 Dude, thank you for having us. Dude, he was the reason why this has happened, by the way. That's the man. Do you want to jump in real quick? Yeah, for like one minute. You could talk for like one minute. Yeah, yeah, just here. You can take my mic.
Starting point is 01:09:12 We only have two. What's going on, brother? What's up going on, brother? This is insane. Thank you for having me. You're welcome. Let me see. We were talking.
Starting point is 01:09:20 He grew up. He watched us. He's obviously a big fan of you. I was the same age as Steve, so I don't know about growing up. I didn't watch him. But like, we're the same age. So I was like, yeah. Yeah, you're growing up.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Regardless, though, but like you watch them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's sad, though, because we need you back, dude.
Starting point is 01:09:39 we need you back YouTube hasn't been the same YouTube hasn't been the same yeah we need you back on YouTube now I'm a YouTuber I have some power there no I'm just kidding maybe not he's gonna go we're gonna we're gonna go to HQ be like let him in please do you have pull pull there pool maybe not with Google baby no I can I can I can do whatever I can but what's what's so I'm because I don't think we've talked about a long time like maybe last time I heard you talk about it was a little more like you know upset but where you at now with you
Starting point is 01:10:09 YouTube. I'm not as mad at YouTube anymore. I'm kind of like, I've kind of come to peace with it. And right now I kind of see things as like way differently now. Like maybe it wasn't meant for me being a YouTuber. And I think of that in like weird ways, like as in like maybe if I did continue on my path of being a YouTuber, something bad would have happened, I would have got hurt or someone, something really, it would have, something really bad could have happened, I feel like, because
Starting point is 01:10:39 I've done so much, I used the YouTube platform, you know, for good. Yeah. And maybe it was like something I needed to, you know, to grow up to because while I was a YouTuber, I went from, you know, here just rewind, I went from making, going to high school to making Instagram videos to then write, like graduating high school to Instagram videos to write into living with the Nelk Boys in the Hollywood Hills mansion to being a YouTuber. where, you know, I never really had, like, real-life experience. And I had, like, it's not like I was rich, but my parents did good, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:18 like to where, like, I always had food and, you know, TV, Wi-Fi, like, all, like, the dope shit that people, you know, most people have, but take for granted. I had that. But I never had, like, any, like, real-life experience. So I think me being off of it is kind of like become more of an adult. is what you would call it. Kind of like maybe maybe some way in some way
Starting point is 01:11:41 who's kind of meant to be. Oh meant to be. Oh, because everything's going so good for me because I was so lucky that I got super whatever quote unquote famous because I always people say
Starting point is 01:11:52 the people that don't know me and ask me, hey, are you famous? I say kind of. I'm internet famous, right? But, um, wait,
Starting point is 01:12:02 what was I saying? What did you say? You were talking about being popular on the internet. Oh, no, so for the first, so everything's going super good for me right now. And then right now, this is the first time being quote unquote famous is that I'm, like, I have like all these contracts, money, good things coming in, like really good things. And I am like treating it more like an adult. Like, bro, I noticed that.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Like I opened up like a notepad yesterday and like wrote out of budget. I text my mom. I don't look at bank accounts and numbers and stuff. I don't know how much money I have, whatever, spend. I said, Mom, what's my, how much money do I spend? It's a big number. What is it? What is it?
Starting point is 01:12:43 What's big? I'm not pocketwatch. Well, this, for educational purposes... That's hilarious. No, just what it costs to be me is, I can read it. Your lifestyle, though, you're talking about, like, the recovery shit, all the shit to shoot, the cars. There's a lot of stuff involved in being in, I guess. It's a lot.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Anyways, but, no, it's a lot. I don't have to actually go into it, but it's a lot. It all makes sense. It's nothing crazy. It's probably crazy. It's probably crazy. It's probably crazy. I got here on a helicopter.
Starting point is 01:13:27 What the fuck crazy? Hey, you know what's cool about that helicopter that you got in? It was budgeted. Dude, that was dope. It was budgeted. Yeah, you did it right. No, I just, like, for the first time ever, I wrote down, okay, hey, I'm making this much money. And also, the whole YouTube thing, one thing it taught me is that life's not fair.
Starting point is 01:13:50 It's not supposed to make sense. Yeah. Just because you put your entire life into YouTube, and YouTube, YouTube can be anything, just because you put your entire life into fitness, training. But for my situation, I put my entire life into YouTube, and you think, just, because you follow the rules that you'll be good. I followed the rules as in like, I know three strikes and you're out.
Starting point is 01:14:10 I had zero strikes. Never in a billion years would ever thought my YouTube would just get deleted. So I was living life. Like, as long as I can be consistent on YouTube and stay, I hate these words famous,
Starting point is 01:14:24 but quote unquote, relevant as in getting my views, that I would never have to worry about money again. So the way I operated was, okay, you make $100, bucks spend 100 bucks why not spend 10010 your steve will do it you can figure out how to make the ten dollars you know so i kind of learned a huge lesson that no matter what life's not fair
Starting point is 01:14:46 they could you can the government or whoever whoever could take everything away from you in a second boom and if i would have known that in the start of my youtube channel that youtube would potentially just delete me just boosh like i don't like steve he's deleted I probably would have saved up $30 million and God, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I didn't do that because I spent all my money.
Starting point is 01:15:12 I gave away $30 million. Like even if you think, I think I put about perspective of this, yeah. I gave away over $10 million, sure. I could have just like gave away, like say if I gave away 15, which is a low number, just all together, everything off camera, on camera. You know, I think like, I could have just gave away seven. and had $7 million and but also that's No I could have gave way $7 and I could have had the same effect
Starting point is 01:15:39 that that 15, like say I gave away $15 million I could have gave away $7 million and did the same exact content and had the same exact effect you know what I'm saying but I never thought that my YouTube would ever be over I thought if it was ever over that it was means okay decline in views like viewership followers but I never had that so I never had the worry So as long as I was still getting my, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:03 two to four million views per week that I maintained for four years, I always thought that I would be financially, you know, stable to maintain anything that I did crazy. So they taught me a big lesson that life's not fair. It don't matter if you follow the roads. It don't matter about, it doesn't matter, logic doesn't need to make sense. I mean, COVID proves that. The logic is not, logic's out the window and you probably get,
Starting point is 01:16:26 but so it was good. And now, like, when I have, like, things that happen to me that, like, Where I feel like, say, for example, if someone, like, is fucking me over or something, instead of reacting, like, and going crazy, I do adult-like things, like, being calm and talking. And, like, budgeting, and, like, I'm getting my teeth clean. Yeah, look at that. She's going to dentists and shit. That is dope there.
Starting point is 01:16:53 That's dope there. That's a dope shit. What else I've done? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I built a house. A little lip filler?
Starting point is 01:17:05 You don't have lip filler. People do think I have lip filler, but... Is that true? You look like that your whole life, bro. Yeah. That's a big look. I had big lips and I was like, today I was doing a nose strip. Wow, like the stick.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Oh, yeah, yeah. To sleep, air, air. No, no, no, for blackheads. Oh, to take the blackheads up. I got to put two of those. I got to put two of those. of them to cover the nose he's got to have a big brain yeah it's like two little things i'm black yeah whatever that's in now that's in now it's actually in now it's in yeah it's a
Starting point is 01:17:47 it sucks no it's good i got a big a it's good it's like i'm slow i have an average size and my nose is normal it's huge True. You know, I believe it. Oh, we love you, Steve. Let's go. You ready? Yeah, I'm ready. Yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Let's do it.

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