RAWTALK - Jake Webber On Losing Oliver Tree, His Relationship w/Tara Yummy & Getting Diagnosed w/ Autism at 25

Episode Date: June 23, 2026

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Well, people just see like the entertainment side of me, you know? So like when I'm putting on a show. No, I get it. Oh, bro. That was so funny. I like to be human. Sometimes, like, I don't even feel human.

I feel like I have to like blend in, if that makes sense. Interesting. Like, so you feel like sometimes you don't belong in certain places or is it? Yeah, like I just, I just feel like I have to like morph into fitting into somewhere. Like back in the day, it was like a lot harder. But now I feel like I pick up on social cues way better. So before it was harder for you. Yeah, way harder. I mean, being out in LA and trying to take advantage of every event that's going on, trying to talk to people like,

it's like I feel like if you work on anything, you get better at it. Yeah, for sure. Do you think, do you think doing social media helps you become more like social in that way? Well, that's why I originally started because when I was like 14, I was like, oh, if I be cool online, then this will help me in real life, but it doesn't really translate. So wait, you genuinely thought that like, oh, I can like look cool online, then that'll make people think I'm cool in real life. Yes, that's the, that's all, the whole reason why I started social media was because like I wanted to be perceived as a cool guy. I guess that's, I mean, I guess that's real. Like everyone wants to like be appreciated. I mean, That's not uncommon at all.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Especially at that age, you're definitely thinking that. 100%. A hundred percent. Nowadays, like, I try to just, like, be myself as much that I can represent that. Yeah. So how do you think that's changed over time? I think that I'm just more comfortable with the way I feel and the way I think versus

trying to blend it in somewhere. Also, out here, like, I feel like people appreciate individuality more. In L.A. specifically? Or in, like, the whole social creator space? Yeah, I would just say, like, like in L.A. in general. Yeah. Yeah. Have you always had this look? Was this always your look? I really started indulging in my look, maybe in 2020. Like I was always like subtly doing little things that I liked about myself, but I went kind of full throttle in 2020. Then in 2023,

I kind of had a big pickup. And I was really thinking about the way I represent myself. And I wanted to be true to myself because I just felt like I had so many eyes on me. And I was just thinking, if Everyone's looking at me right now. I want to be perceived exactly how I feel. So yeah, that stuff. I became the most to myself, I would say it, in like 20, 23. Did you ever get like from family or people close to you when you started like making your look, you know, like, is this like the goth look?

What's the, what do you describe this? I just think of it is. Emo, goth. Well, because you don't see emo at all. You're super like friendly. I think like if an elderly person walks by, it's like whatever, whatever, whatever term they want to give me. But in my eyes, I just think it's, it's just my look in general. You know, I think most people just classify it as alternative. But when it comes to like style, I think it kind of

falls into glam metal. When I, when I think alternative, I think of sublime. Yeah, yeah. Like, alternative just has such a big boat. You know, there's so many avenues. There's like goth, grunge, uh, emo. Just, there's just so many. Yeah. So, so I want to get into how you like, how you really started. You said you were 14. You started then? Yeah, I started on Vine. Holy shit, dude. You're old like me. Well, not as old as me, but I know. I've been around forever. It's crazy. But you're not even that old. Like, you just, you just turn 27, right? 28, 28, 28, yeah, yeah. From 27. You're not old, though. Like, that's not old at all. It feels like I've been around forever, though. I'll see so many people out at parties and like, well, if you're on Vine.

There's people that don't even know what Vine is anymore. It's kind of crazy. Bro, yeah. I mean, I was only on, I think I posted one Vine, but back then it was like, fitness didn't there was nothing you could put really there was enough time it was like seven seconds yeah you couldn't really I was gonna what am I gonna do here yeah I don't really like my content of vine because it was so bit based and I was just trying to appeal to others like I'm really fortunate because right now I just do the stuff I want to do but at that time I was trying to do like relatable content like that moment when so yeah I get it I'm glad I do what I want now you were just like a young kid you're like I'm just I want to be on social media did you have a reason why or just

It was just being in school. Like I wanted girls to like me and I wanted to be popular and I wasn't good at that in real life. So I went to social media to try to build myself from there. Do you think it's now helped you? It didn't really help me. Me actually going out and working on those things is what actually helped me because it could only take you so far. Me actually going out to parties and events and talking to people and listening to people and them listening to me. just all of that, you know, all that together just helped me out so much. Yeah. Do you think you're a little

socially awkward? Yes. Yes. But I've accepted it. That's good. Yeah. We're all little awkward though. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So when did you when did you first like find the like that flow with your content? When did it start to really pick up? It picked up in 2023, but I've been doing it forever. I've been kind of coasting doing things and and I've always had a big audience. But in 2020 three, I felt like there was kind of like a pop moment where we had a lot of eyes on us and we're doing the stuff that I love, which is like unboxingings, shopping and, you like shopping? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I like like thrifting, like off camera, but like on camera, you know, I love to go to like the candy aisle and look at all the different flavors of Oreos and stuff. You like going to Target. I know that. Yeah. Yeah. I just like,

I love, I love gimmicky stuff. You know, I just went to Vegas and it's so gimmicky. I just, I eat that up. I get it. So, so it started, you. started seeing traction and it started getting bigger with 2023 you said yeah yeah is that the whole like dating the girl thing yeah so sometimes i think people get the timeline wrong how it was was me and my friend johnny we blew up and then Tara blew up like right after she had this like tar yummy as a mindset bit that like went super viral and then after that we broke up i think i think i don't know if that was before or after i don't know where that is in the timeline i think it might be after or i don't know But so many people like so many people like mourn for us to be back together, but there was not that many people as there are now that were there.

You know? What do you mean? You mean there is like, well, like I was getting like, I don't know, like 40,000 views of video and everyone's like I missed them together. And it's like you never knew us together. Like you found us afterwards because everything happened after that. Oh, I see. I see. Yeah.

Well, that's kind of how things go. Like there's certain moments in like social media career where then they'll identify everything as. like this is what you did and this is what made you who you are, but missing everything else. Yeah. Like I think, I mean, I'd done social media for like 15 years and then I slap Ronaldo and then kids come out to me now and they're like, you're the guy who slap Ronaldo. I'm like, true, but I'm also the guy that did all this for so many years. Yeah, yeah.

No, totally. Does that ever annoy you? No, you know, I think pop culture is a really cool thing and you don't really get to choose like what becomes a part of it. I think of it in the idea of there's so much going on on the internet, but there is a hub of pop culture. And that's like the stuff that people gossip about and talk about. There's like creators that don't even really ever pop in that bubble, but they're big.

So it's just interesting like what gets pulled into pop culture. Yeah. I think about that a lot. Yeah. Well, the relationship stuff is always so like so big. It's always going to be in that space. Yeah. Relationships, drama.

That's like a prime part of it. You know, like teen magazines, stuff like. that. Yeah. So I realize you, I don't know how much you'd like to talk about it anymore, but you ended up getting out of that relationship. Do you think it added to you? Yeah. It's crazy because like, I think we really grew as people and a lot of people online will say, oh, they broke up just to hang out all the time. But if you look at us before and after or even like my social skills, it's like night and day before and after that because, you know, like everything I did, she would be the person I go with, you know, to every event, every time I want to hang out with someone.

After we broke up, I was like, I need to do things myself. I need to make my own friends. And it just really helped me blossom as a person because we started dating when I was 20. So I don't think I really got that moment where I blossomed as an individual. I see. There's a timeline and everything. So do you think it, I mean, obviously it helped. Yeah, it helped a lot. And same for her too. Like she's like a superstar. And it's really cool seeing what she's doing. Yeah, I don't, I don't understand, though, how, like, because I just saw you the other night at Johnny's thing, and you're with her. In my head, I was like, oh, there's, are they, because I, I don't follow everything, but I'm like, I knew you guys were dating. I was like, are they still dating?

And it's like, I guess my question is, how can you maintain a friendship? Because I've, I don't know this for myself and for many people after they've been in relation for so long to be able to even maintain a friendship. Well, I used to think it was something that, I was capable of doing easily, but just from dating around. And I think from her dating around too, it's actually kind of just a unique thing that was just between me and her because I like, you know, trying trying it with other people. It's really hard to stay in touch and like avoid those feelings. It's crazy because my perspective is like if you ever truly love someone, there's no way you could be

friends. I get that. Like, and I used to be so against that mindset because of what I want. went through with Tara, but from dating around, like I understand it's actually really, really difficult. And it was difficult for me and Tara too. You know, it took a while. I think our only rule was like, like, let's just not hook up with the close friend of each other. Like you could go hook up with whoever you want. I don't want to hear about it. Do your thing. And we're going to try to maintain this friendship. Yeah. And that's been good. It's been working. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's, it's so funny

because our closest friends, like they understand it. They see it. But it's just a little hard to pick up from an outside perspective. But, you know, like when she's like talking to dudes, like I'll think they're sick, like they'll meet me. And, you know, I'll, I'll push for them. Like, I've dated. She, she supports it. They'll be friends. Yeah, it's simple. Like, there's just so much going on. We just don't really talk about a lot of it online because we had such a public relationship. Like, we, we saw the downsides of it. And we just don't want to repeat that. Yeah. Would you ever have another public relationship? It's, it's so hard to know. But my last one was very. private and it was nice the thing is is like when you have a public relationship you could make it

be perceived however you want you know like with my relationship since it was private we just had that to ourselves but since people could only get breadcrumbs they had to create their own narratives and it just sucks because it's like if we wanted to we could have made it look like we're the best couple in the world and it we like it was really special you know we had like a really really really great relationship but you know we just uh we just ended it because it is so hard on online so you ended it recently yeah it's just it was just so hard to deal with the world online you know people it was just something that was just so in our face it was just really hard to keep up but it was very peaceful you know no arguments yeah she's such a sweetheart so well it makes sense like

it's like it's like everyone probably has in their head they're like oh it's still it should be Tara, so they're probably saying she's probably reading it being like, what the fuck. But that's what's crazy is because there's just a whole world that people don't see. Like, Tara was telling me, she was like, I liked you guys together more. I liked you guys together more. Like she was like pushing for it to, you know, be back. Yeah.

So you ultimately left it. Why? Just because like online, it's just, it's just really hard to deal with, you know? We tried to just like not look at anything, but it's just really hard. You know, it's just really everywhere. And I felt so bad for her because we never announced that we were together. and everyone was like, oh, you guys need to like defend her and stuff. But like, then that would be like them getting what they want because it's like me.

But then you're just living like your content, like you're creating content trying to like living for other people. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And we had something so special. It was so great. And it's like, you know, with with what I went through with Tara, like why would I ever want to repeat that? You know, maybe like one day.

But as of right now, you know, it's just it's just not fun. Like I'm, I'm sure it would get views. Like people would eat it out. But I just don't care about that. When it comes to like a relationship, it's something that like I want to like actually invest and care for instead of like kind of turning it into a content thing. You know, it kind of gets this division of reality and entertainment. And like, you know, the entertainment side is not real. Like what matters is like when the camera's off.

And that's like all I pretty much cared about. I don't want to like have an entertainment side to it. Like with Torah, we film a lot. But we maintain what we actually have as friends so well. that it doesn't get like skewed or blurred or anything. Yeah. It's probably hard to find. It's definitely hard to recreate with other people for sure.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, what do you actually enjoy doing? Because like you just, your content is so interesting. You just like do whatever the fuck you want. You don't really. It's like nothing specific.

Yeah. And you just around. Well, I dumb it down to shopping sprees, unboxings and trips. And they all kind of just have the same vibe. What a life. Do you ever,

do you ever trip and you're like, damn? I get to make money for like, like literally living life. Yeah, it's such a blessing. Every day I wake up, like I'm so thankful for I never get tired of it. Like I understand there is negative sides, but it'll always outweigh that. The negative sides are things that I just don't have to focus on. It's, it's things that like, if I allow it to eat me up, then I will. So I've been really good at just acting like it doesn't exist and focus on the good because it is a blessing. Yeah. What is your family think about what you're

doing? They love it. Oh, they love it. No, they've always supported me. And half of my family's on TikTok too. So yeah, they rock with it. They're super supportive. Did they see this coming like the look and everything from the beginning? Yeah, yeah. My parents always knew that I was I was just kind of doing my own thing and they always advocated for it. Like I got straight D's in school. Like they would they would like clap for me when I got a D because I would always get a few Fs and I'd have to go to summer school. But they they knew that I wasn't just not trying or I wasn't dumb. They knew that there was something about me that, you know, if I, if I focus on my passions, like I could maybe get what I want. You know, like, they believed in me. They believed in like whatever I wanted to do.

Did you believe that growing up? Yeah. No, in my mind, I was like, everything will work out. That's why I like didn't try extra hard for school because I just, I just knew that there was something out there for me that would work out. Yeah. I think, I mean, my opinion of school is useless. At least as it's set up now, it's the only, the biggest usefulness out of school is like just meeting other people who are also like trying to figure the life out. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's definitely an experience to have. Like when you're in school, you're around people for eight hours a day. Then afterwards, you have to make those decisions yourself to see other people and like go out. There's some people after high school that just become recluses.

So I realized I got to like maintain being around others after I graduated. Yeah. So you thought your life was going to be not like this necessarily exactly, but you thought that you were going to have success doing something out like something like in entertainment. I knew that. I wanted to move to LA since I was like 12. And you're from what like were Minnesota? Kansas. Kansas. Yeah.

Somewhere in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. Middle of nowhere. Like absolute middle of nowhere. Was there a lot of the people who were like this? No. No. I got like ripped this shreds just from wearing skinny jeans.

Like I didn't I didn't really try as hard on how I looked there because I was just scared of getting roasted. I mean, being on Vine, that was the easiest way to get roasted. You know, like doing social media. I don't know what it's like in. school now, but at the time, you just instantly became a bully target. But it's so funny. It's like, oh, what you're doing social media, what a loser? Like, what are they even saying? Yeah. Well, in Kansas, you know, they work with their hands

there. They, you know, they're really like countrymen, you know, they're welding. And they see me like walking in skinny jeans and making these relatable vines. It just cringes them out. Yeah, I get it. It's not the norm. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm happy to be here. I feel like I got accepted a lot more here. All right, guys, cooking orange for the podcast, Butcher Box, check this out. Obviously, well, maybe not obviously, but a lot of the food, a lot of the meat, a lot of the shit that's in grocery stores is just kind of trash. Butcher Box is going to send you amazing quality food, like amazing quality meat, seafood, chicken, beef, steak, everything. Straight to your door, you don't have to go shopping for it. This for me is dope. Obviously, it's summertime.

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I just, you know, with music, it's something that it's embarrassing if you do it bad. I don't even think of myself as an artist. Like, it's something that just takes time to get better at. And I feel like I'm never ending learning. And I was really excited when I start doing actual music after the joke music. Yeah. Is that something you like are actually really passionate about? Yeah, I love it because it's kind of like writing in a journal making a song.

You know, it's on YouTube, you know, I'm going on these shopping sprees and stuff. and I don't really talk about how I feel. So it's cool that I have an avenue that's a form of art where I could talk about how I feel on a deeper level. So what has all this content shit taught you about yourself? Talk about it on a deeper level. Let's see. The number one thing that I think about is just expressing yourself,

dressing how you want, doing what you want. And everything that you do is like a form of art, you know, so, you know, care about your art. Yeah, that's valid. everything is like that. No matter what, like no matter what you create, obviously,

whether it's music or not. Just it is, it is a version of that. Yeah. I recently became friends with Oliver Tree like right before he passed. And that's actually something that he made me think about.

He pretty much said just like everything you do really is art. Yeah. I mean, how you show up in especially, I mean, especially social media. Yeah. Because people get some,

like the reason why I think most artists become really successful is because they say things that people directly relate to in some way. Yeah. And it means something to them. So when did you meet Oliver? I met him just a few weeks ago. But it's crazy.

Insane timing. Yeah, I know. I've never even talked about this before. I mean, I used to go live on Twitch every day, but on serious topics, it's just hard for me to be live on. You know, like, I'm not used to talking on a deeper level on camera. So it's a little hard for me, but I met him a few weeks ago. So it's kind of interesting how it started. I was like watching his interviews.

actually and and we we had no messages or anything at this point but like three weeks ago i was watching his interviews and i thought he was so funny he was just like such a character and i was just cracking up i was watching like every single one then i got a dm from him and it was like hey come to my album release party like would love to see you there and in my head i was like this is just his team um yeah but i'm excited to go like i'm totally going to do this i'm going to see him there So I went with my friend and he was the first person I saw when I walked through the door. And he's like, Jake, dude, it's so great to meet you. I love what you do.

Like, I want to film with you, all this stuff. And I was like, thinking of my head, I was like, damn, that's crazy. Because like this dude's like a real celebrity. And he's acting like he's stoked about meeting me. I was stoked about meeting him. And I thought it was going to be like a party, but it was like pretty intimate. It was like 50 people. And it was in a little movie theater.

We watched like a documentary. that I put together. I don't think it's even out. He put it together. Yeah, he put together everything he did. Like, he was his own director and everything. Like, he, he was hands on everything, wrote all of his lyrics. Like, he was like a content creative machine. Yeah.

But it was a documentary he did and then a music video for every single song on his album. Then afterwards, he DM me and said, thank you so much for coming. He means the world to me. Let's film. And I'm like still in shock because I'm like, dude, why is like, it's like, what I noticed with him is like he could make you feel like, you're like the only person the moment, like at the time. And that's, that's what's so special about him because when he came over, my management always tells me whenever you collab with people,

usually they kind of just want to do the content, know what they're getting into, then dip. That's L.A. man. Yeah. Yeah. So I didn't want to take too much of his time. I don't want to do anything too complicated. In my mind, I was like, do I do something like a podcast? I don't know. He came over and he was like, dude, y'all should turn me emo. We should go on a shopping spree. we should do a muckbang let's make tic-toks and i was like thinking of my head bro you're gonna be here for like 10 hours like yeah yeah and we did the video i actually just posted it today it was scheduled for today and i was like thinking about postponing it but like he was so excited for me to post i was like i got to post it um so after we got done filming also he's like the wildest person ever

like it was so hard to keep up with him he had so much energy was like running around jumping like it's insane but i feel kind of a weirdo on camera and he's like that time's 100. Like he could outweird anyone. But after we were done filming, he was like, can I kick it with you all for a bit? And I was like, yeah, dude. And he was like, cool. Let's like, let's get food or something.

So we went to Taco Bell and we're kicking outside for hours. Like I drove. Yeah. Yeah. Like we were like in the car and he's like in the backseat at Taco Bell through the drive there. I'm like, this is crazy. Like he's, this dude's just a chiller.

And we hung out for hours the rest of the night. And afterwards, he was like FaceTiming me every day. He texts and paragraphs. And I was just like, this is crazy because I'm just not used to it. What I realized is that he treats everyone the same. You know, if you're like a construction worker or if you're a billionaire, I think he valued everyone the same. Then after that, we met up again and we did another video, hung out afterwards.

Then at EDC, he came out for a song for like one of the biggest set subtronics at EDC. And before the set, and like this is like a big day, he could spend it with anyone. He's in Vegas. He was like, dude, let's film. So I literally went to his hotel. He's like in a bathrobe. And we filmed a bit and we sat and just chilled and talked. I'm like, like, I never stopped being so shocked that he was just giving me the time and attention.

But like, he was just like a real ass dude. And yeah, because I was like, damn, you really could be giving anyone attention on this big. day for you at EDC. But and then and then at EDC, he told me to come to his trailer and we filmed a little bit there and kicked it for a little bit there. It was just, it was just crazy. Like, he was like a one in a million dude. And he's, he's taught me a lot. You know, he's, he's just, he's inspired me a lot, just how to feel about people. Like when I go out, if a person comes up to me and starts a conversation, I, I want to value it the same as the coolest person in the room because it's, it's the same value. It's, it's all important. I think that's what he did. And I want to do that more.

With people. Yeah. Bro, I mean, and I think that's why most people who end up having like long-term success in social media or just in general, that's how they treat people. Yeah, totally. Sure. Totally. Like, there's some saying it's like the coolest person in the room makes everyone feel like

the coolest person in the room. Yeah. Like they're the most selfless person there. Like the people that people look up to. They're always asking how your day was. Like they never talk about themselves. And that's kind of what he was. When every time we hung out, like he was just, he was just hyping us up so much like

giving us advice and everything and like you know he was just like a one and a million dude and i know that's cliche to say after someone passes but it truly felt like that yeah and did you know when he was going to brazil i just know that he was about to go on a world tour yeah such a crazy way to go out it's so young too i know it's it's crazy but i like you know i'm glad that like everyone's listening to his music and appreciating him, you know, as terrible as it is, it's, it's nice to see so much love. Yeah, RIP, man, that's super sad. Yeah, I know. It's so young, it's just like, damn. Like, I always like, whenever I see stuff like that, I'm always like, why, like, why, why this person? I know, it's insane. When I first saw it, I was actually outside of the gym with my friend,

and I just, like, I was finishing my energy drink and I looked at Twitter and I saw it in my, gut just dropped and showed my friend called Tara and we just all felt so sick. My friend Barry was like, dude, I don't think I could work out. So we ended up going to Ralph's and we just walked through every aisle. And we couldn't even like look at food. We literally got toilet paper and makeup remover and stuff like that because we're just trying to distract ourselves and feel a little normal. but it was the first day it just like really rocked us yeah i mean losing people i mean anyone

that had like importance in your life is it is a thing but i think the thing you learn from it is always just like okay at least you said right now what you learn from him that sounds very significant is treat everyone special no matter who they are yeah yeah yeah even like the most boring conversation in the world is still important i feel like things like that you could learn from um no matter what it is what they're saying, you know, like, it's just, it's just like something to absorb. Yeah. What do you think happens when you die? Well, I always keep my book open. I don't have any assumptions, but I try to live by the life I have. It's the only thing I got. So I got to live it to the fullest. I'm not like set on any firm belief. Someone told me one time just to always keep my book open. So I always just

try to keep it open, optimistic and listen to other people and what they think. But for myself, I just try to live what I got to the fullest. Yeah. It's fucking crazy, man. I always, I always just wonder, like, what's, what was the point? I mean, I guess there, I don't want to say there was no point. It's just kind of how life goes, but, um, yeah, I always wonder about that. Life goes always.

No, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When do you get into working out? Because you're at the, bro, you're at, like, because I met you obviously from the gym. You're at the gym, like, probably every day. I love working out. I love a good routine. and that's my favorite part of the routine.

I've been working out since high school, but I go in spurts of working out harder or less, you know, if I'm taking a lot of pre-workout at the time or I got a gym buddy. I got a gym buddy right now, so I feel like I'm working out pretty hard. Like maybe like the most I've worked out in a few years.

When I work out by myself, it feels more like a chore, but when I'm with a buddy, like it feels like we're hanging out and also be able to get yoked. Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, it's funny. Like, I don't know how much I could say about it,

but how I found out about you at my gym was I have some buddies who are police officers. and who they work in that area. And they were like, yo, do you know this guy? And I was like, I think I've seen this guy on the internet before.

And they're like, yeah, he has this like person that's like a stalker basically. Yeah. Was that the first time something like that's ever happened to you? No, this has happened to me since the initial blow up. It's just something I never talk about online.

But like I deal with stuff like that all the time. And it's like an anxiety in the back of my head. Yeah. You know, but I guess it just kind of comes with it. Is it always girls? Yeah. It's never been a dude.

I would be more scared of a dude. I'm glad it's girls. Yeah. Yeah. It was just funny. It was like, yo, pass this picture around.

Make sure this person doesn't show up. So we have like security at the gym for the guy, basically. But it's, it's, yeah, I just, it's funny because I've,

I've had stuff like that, but more so like, I guess it's like different for me, but I've had someone come to my gym. This is a true story. Someone came to my gym with, like straight from the, airport with bags, like bags like they were going to move in. They come to my gym, my old gym,

and they were like, oh, I'm here to see Brad. And my employees were like, oh, okay. And then they told me about it. They ended up like, I looked at the cameras. I see the person with all the bags. And this person was telling my employees at the front desk that we were like going to get married. And she's been talking to me for like three years. And she moved. She like flew with all her stuff from like cross country somewhere here to meet me. And I was like, who? So, You'll get married or what? No. I was like, who the fuck catfish?

Like, so someone had been talking to this person, sending them pictures of me? Really? 100%. Oh, my God. For three years. I've had situations where it's not like a catfish. Like, they just genuinely believe it. That's the scariest part is like, I don't know what they're thinking ever and I don't

know what they're believing because it just all comes from my mind. Oh, you didn't even have anyone pretending to be you. No. No. It's just like they genuinely believe it. And it comes from nothing. So it's scary. Yeah, because I had it when it was just more like someone was catfishing someone with

my pictures. then she believed she was talking to me the whole time. But it's like, how do you believe you're talking to me for three years? You never got on like a FaceTime or yeah. That's that's wild. I guess yours is even more wild where it's like they just there's nothing like that. They just created something in their mind. It's completely just. Yeah, like they take like things that they see as clues from the world and and put it all together and make it make sense. Yeah, you like say something like, oh, that's about me. And it's like you're just talking about some target. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So it's it's freaky. But you know, it's just.

Does that ever deter you from, like, making more content? No, like, that's like, you know, that's what, like, I love to do. You know, I can never let that take away what I love to do. I just got to deal with it. And, you know, like, no one knows about it really online, but it's something I deal with all the time. And I just got to get through it. It's freaky, though, you know, like when you have people like stalkers, you,

you start to see people in person and just question if someone's them and question if a car is there. You're like paranoid. Yeah. Would you ever do live stuff? No. No. So what kind of content do you like really enjoy doing now? Is it really just like you just shop and do whatever you want? My favorite is the trip videos because I feel like I'm making a big storyline out of it. It's not scripted or anything, but it's just like, you know, there's a start to finish and it feels like a movie. And I love that. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, the traveling. I got to do more traveling content. Yeah, it's so fun. Especially like having someone film for you. vlogging is cool but when you pretend it's a movie it makes it so fun like um the only thing that i

put together is our plans and i really try to put it together from like a start to finish scenario like if if i wanted to like have a climax i'd make sure the craziest thing we do is towards the end of the video you know i wanted to feel like a movie subliminally would you ever wanted to get into that space like actually making movies yeah if i didn't do youtube i would be a film editor i went to film school and everything i i i love editing so you seen that guy who did obsession. He was just a social media guy. Yeah, it's crazy. I feel like there's going to be so much more of that to come because everyone's online. It's so inspiring. Yeah, that dude did so, what's the name? Corey Baker, I think, right? I'm not sure. You know,

Google his name real quick. I'm pretty sure it is the guy who did obsession. But like, it got such crazy response. Obviously, because the movie was dope. Have you seen it? Yes. Yeah, it was insane. Like, I love watching a movie that feels so refreshing. It felt so new. And I feel like, yeah, Curry, Curry Baker, excuse me. Yeah. So he was like the main guy, I guess who did it. But I feel like a lot of the support also came from just the social media side of it. Totally.

This is like a new, this is like a new Hollywood. It's just so funny how years ago social media, Hollywood was like, oh, you guys are losers. This isn't going in here. Yeah, yeah. They were scared of us taking over. And now this is it. This is like, this is a version. I think this is the first movie, I don't know, in like 24 years that did the numbers it did

with the amount of money that was put in. Yeah. Like they think they put in like a million dollars and they made like 100 million plus. And there hasn't been a movie that did that sense like paranormal activity. Yeah, it's insane. And it's crazy because like social media people, they maybe, maybe. Not everyone, but like they, I would say the majority of popular social media people get stopped more than the majority of famous people because they see them so much more often.

Like I can't go to Disney or anything like that. But I'm not a celebrity. And I just feel like celebrities, at least at the time, maybe I don't know about now, but like look down on creators just because like they didn't want them to steal their spotlight. Yeah, I feel like that's exactly true. Yeah, like I always think about it is this, there's this wall, you know, and I feel like I'm still in the social media bubble, but I feel like this wall, I mean, ceiling, the ceiling exists where you get past that and you're a celebrity. I feel like people like Emma Chamberlain did that. I see what you're saying. But I, so then what do you

think makes someone actually a celebrity? Being more mysterious, I suppose. I feel like social media culture is very open. But haven't you noticed a lot of the celebrities like not like when I'm not not necessarily like Brad Pitt level this is like so far. But like a lot of the I would say I guess maybe it's more artists and things have all sort of fallen into the social media thing. Yeah. Yeah. It feels like they're emerging into our world like almost like they have to. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Because like people's attention spans are so short like they got to be in everyone's face. I mean, that's what I feel like. I feel like I feel like I got to be in everyone's face all the time. Yeah. But I. But I I also feel like the key to why people are popular now more than ever on social media,

like as a social media people is because they're just more relatable. Not just, yeah, you're right, because they make more content all the time and you're, you know, you're on that algorithm and you have to be there consistently. But at the same time, the content you do take part in is more like this. Oh, this is just a normal person. Totally. So then the audience is like, oh, I like this person. This person's like me.

They like the same shit I like. They're cool. Yeah, totally. totally it's like in celebrity world they rely on star power and i feel like in social media world they they rely on that that like relatable feeling that's what like makes you want to keep up with someone yeah i totally i totally get that that's that's so true and i feel like celebrities think maybe oh i need to maybe appear more human we're talking about that earlier just appear more human online like show more of myself yeah it's definitely going in that direction yeah would you ever

do any like hollywood type type i would be so down i'm just waiting for someone going to hit me up. Kind of like side topic also links, but I've always kind of done what I wanted to do. So I haven't had too many moments where I had to step out of my comfort zone. So one thing I've been working on recently is avoiding the things that make me comfortable that maybe aren't the best for me because I'm just so used to like everything working out for me. You know, I didn't do school, but like this worked out for me because this is what I wanted to do. So like I have this mindset of everything I do like I'm going to do what I want to do because it works when I do what I want to do. But, you know, then I have things like smoking cigarettes and energy drinks and not taking

chances, stuff like that, that like put me in a bubble. So I'm trying to think about why that relates. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The ice fat. Yeah. That that's something like in my brain I don't want to do. It makes me uncomfortable. And I know people like strive for that feeling and it's good for you. But I have a problem being uncomfortable. So wait, but but energy drink caffeine and nicotine. It's so sick though. I agree. Dude, I agree. I agree. Like I like anything like, like, Any legal stimulants, like I could get behind that. I like it. You said legal.

So you're like, oh, God, you don't get cooked and good, good. Yeah, whatever I have access, dude. No. Any legal stimulants? A lot of people think that I'm a drug act or something online. Like they think that- Because of how you look? Maybe.

Or like, or our energy going out. Oh, partying. Like partying a lot. Like going out. But really, I only drink. So they think you're snoring lines for sure. Which I've never even done. Like, damn.

Like, I haven't even done. I've done it once. It sucked. Really? Yeah. I think of it like, well, everyone always tells me that it's never as crazy as you think. And I've had a buddy that said, I'm just going to try it once. And he was like, that's not that crazy. But then like, he would do it every once in a while. And it's like, I just don't even want to start that path. I just, I want nothing to do with it. Yeah, I did it once. And I was like trying to hit this chick. And then my dick didn't work. So I was like, this isn't for me. That's just straight up. That's the truth. And then, in the sense then, not ever. Never. No, I hate that feeling. Like, you know, I would. never need a Viagra, but like, I wish there was a pill that would make you come when you need it. Because you ever just get to that point where you're just going, you're like, I'm going to have to say something. Oh, that's so real. Oh, it's so real. You're like, yeah. No, I get you.

I get you. Yeah. If that was invented, that would be sick. Because Viagra doesn't make you more horny. That's what my friend told me at least. He's like it just keeps you hard for a long-ass time. Yeah. That's what your friend told you.

I love that. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm like, I don't know if I am anymore. I should though. I wanted a tattoo on my dick and I would have to take a Viagra to get it because the skin has to be stretched. Well, what would you tattoo on your dick? I want a star. Like that's like my thing. I just have stars all over me and I think it would be sick. You know, I like the idea like pushing the bottom or like? I was thinking on the side, but my friend said, okay, two things, two things. One, my buddy, my buddy Johnny told me that it could look like a freckle. It would look different when it's shriveled versus hard.

So that's dumb to take an account. Also, a girl told me that if she hooked up with a dude with a dick tattoo, she would get an STD check the next day. So I was like, damn, okay. Dick tattoo, red flag, huh? Yeah. Well, I mean, I get it, though. If a girl saw a dude with a dick tattoo, like, she might think,

do I need to get tested? Yeah, yeah. Makes sense. I get that, though. I thought it would be sick, though. I met the guy from Rolling Loud, like the owner, Matt, and he has a money, bag tattoo on his balls and he calls it his money bag on his ball sack sorry a money sign he has a he has a money sign on his balls and he calls it his money bag and he showed it to me he asked me if

i want to see i was like yeah i'm not going to say no but like it was legit dude it was legit yeah were you doing research because you were trying to figure out what you if you wanted to do some that actually was the moment that i started thinking about it because i was like that's ballsy literally and i i like me i wonder how much that hurts though i don't think he said it was that bad what was their most painful tattoo. Oh my God. My back. It was, yeah. Like which part? I feel like it's. Oh, I have a giant target on my back. But I feel like the middle, like your middle back is the most painful. Yeah, totally, totally. Yeah, yeah. I remember that's where we started. In the moment the needle went in,

I was like, no. My artist is super cool, though. He let me take like six shots of Crown Royal. I had also had hella no cream on me. Like, I just wanted to get it done because in the beginning, like right when needle went in, I could not do it. I could not do it. Like, I'm so sensitive to that pain, especially there. How many tattoos you have? I have no idea, but I'm getting filled. Like, I'm getting to the point where there's some things that I want that I can't get anymore. You have on your legs and shit too? No, I actually have my legs bare. Maybe I'll get to that one day, but I care about how I represent myself and I'm always wearing pants. So I want to express myself. I want to express myself to others. And it's like things like an eyebrow piercing, like I wanted one,

but my hair's always in the way. So it's like, I want to see it anyways. You know? It's almost like the gym bro thing. It's funny. Like the gymbo's only train upper body. So they show up her body. I've actually just started doing legs at your gym.

Like I've never did legs before that. And I've been squatting and I've been trying to appreciate it. Like I'm understanding how important it is. Oh, it's the most important thing. Yeah. Because the thing about especially like a natural lifter who's not taking to this outside or anything, it's going to affect the rest of your body. Like you're going to get gains because you're doing.

more work totally. Yeah, well, I have like interior pelvis tilt. So I'm trying to correct that with it. Interior. So it's tilting forward. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like duck butt. Like my guts are hanging out my tummy. And even if I'm fit, like it looks like I have a little belly because just like everything is pushing forward. Now, I hate that. So I want to get it corrected. I want to have good posture. I feel like people look very respectable when they have a really good posture, you know? Yeah, for sure. Shoulders back. Yeah. Do you have like a goal you have as far as your body? Do you want to be jacked? I want to be stretched. I want to be stretched. Like I weigh like 149 right now. I want to be 1.45 and I want to be all muscle.

You ever thought about taking testosterone? Oh, I actually did a testosterone test. And I think it was like 1,200 or something. Oh, your shit's highest. Yeah. I. So. Yeah, yeah. And but like, but I don't understand because like, I don't see that. I don't really have hair on my body either. Like I don't, I really don't know like where that's being represented. But I learned about free testosterone. So I was like, hmm, maybe I wonder how much free testosterone to have. You didn't get that in the same test? Not that I saw. Well, the biggest things for testosterone, you'd notice, obviously the hair growth, depending on like genetics, if you're going to grow hair or not, it'd be like if you're super horny. Yeah. Yeah. So if that's, I mean, I like to have sex. So, but like,

I feel like, I feel like, I like, I don't know where that's being represented, but it was high and it shocked me. Yeah, that's highest. 1,200's like very high. Yeah. In any range. Well, I took it because, like, I felt like I wasn't building muscle at the time. But now that I'm going and working out with my friend, I actually am seeing results. I think I just needed to be pushed a little more. But that's why I initially went to go get it? Because I was like, like, why am I not building that much muscle? I feel like I'm working hard. But it's just maybe wasn't pushing myself hard. What's your die? Like, for some reason, I look at you. If I didn't know your dad, I'd be like, this guy used Cheetos. He just eats Cheetos and like, oh, that's what I want to eat, dude. That's what I want to

eat, dude. I want to eat the three piece hot honey chicken tender combo from Winkstop. So fire, bro. Like, that's my. But like, I, I am pretty disciplined. When it comes to food, I eat cod and french fries every day. That's pretty much my diet right now. Cod and French fries? Yeah. I'll get a potato. I'll chop it.

I'll boil it. Oh, you make your own fries. Yeah. I make my own sauce. I get light mayo. Actually, you know, Miracle Whip has lower calories than light mayo. So I'll get mayo and mix it with Franks. What kind of oil you fry it in?

I can't believe it's not butter. Like I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm. So you put that in an air fire. Yeah. I'm, uh, I'm what's it called? I'm a what's it. What's it called when like it's just for looks like aesthetic?

Yeah, I'm strictly here for aesthetic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, like energy drinks,

cigarettes, all that stuff. But I do want to get to the point where I'm, I'm very natural. Like everything I do is very natural. Like I, I did switch from light breaded chicken tenders to cod. So that was a big jump for me.

That's huge. Yeah. Yeah. And like, and like frozen French fries, like the ore lab. or whatever it's called. Oh my God.

Like or a law to two potatoes like actually cutting them up. So like I am making my changes. It just takes time. But I'm getting there. Have you had more experience in the gym? Like have you gone times where you're like more out or in like. Yeah. Yeah.

Like there's times where I mean, dude, I've, I've only had like prominent abs one time and I'm like constantly trying to get back there because it was right when I blew up and I would look at videos and like, damn, bro. That was crazy. Like anytime I took off my shirt, I was like, I was so defined and I'm really trying to get back to that point.

And I don't even know what the fuck I was doing. Like in my mind, I wasn't doing anything different. I just started creatine again, though. So we'll see. Well, you said, I mean, creatine is amazing, by the way. But you said when you first blew up, that's when it happened. I swear it's the, it's the money belly. Yeah.

Also, like relationship weight, you know, like stress. Yeah. Like being in a relationship is kind of like chud maxing. You know, like all I want to do is like eat pizza and watch movies with the girl. So when I'm by my. I'm very disciplined. So you think you're more motivated when you're not in a relationship? For sure, for sure, because I think that I'm so individual focused.

So I'm like really hyper focusing on myself now. That makes sense. I mean, that's just kind of how it goes. Yeah, yeah. I feel like most people get out of a relationship and they always ascend. The glow up. Yeah. Yeah.

And she's glowing up too. Like she looks. Well, I mean, she's always looks so good. But like, she just posts a photo on it and so I'm like, damn. You know what? It's like, this is why the allegations. That's why they're like, yo, you guys got to be together. It's so funny.

I'm talking about like the most of the recent girl. Yeah. Yeah. She's very beautiful. I get it. Yeah. We're talking about the other girl. Yeah.

Not tar. Yeah. Are you still trying to date? Are you just like focused on yourself right now? I want to be an individual as long as I can be. I have the most growth when I'm an individual and I just really want to focus on that. I like because I feel like when you're in a relationship, you start to, hyper focus on them, which is what I do because when I get in a relationship, I'm just so infatuated

by their world. Like that's my favorite thing to do is to learn about them and to have them like let you in their life and learn about all the things that they like and just slowly growing a deeper bond. Like it's just so beautiful. And that's just something I hyper focus on. So when I'm myself, you know, the only thing I'm focusing on is maintaining my life and trying to do better and everything. So it's, it's quite a difference. Damn, kind of got me feeling back. When I'm relationship, I still focus on myself. I still do. I still do. No, I still do. And I'm a firm believer in that. You know, I, like, I don't think anyone should let anything go. I think you should be the same person you were that they might. I am a firm believer in that. Yeah. All right, guys,

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in a sense that it's not entirely detectable like i think i'm like normal passing which also kind of sucks in its own way because when i meet people and they're like a little too neurotypical they think i'm either mean or weird or shy rude you know because okay so this is kind of like a rabbit hole conversation but there's like neurotypical and there's neurodivergent and neurodivergent's them, all that, blah. And they have two different conversational patterns. Yeah. So when I talk to someone that's neurotypical, when I talk like a neurodivergent, it like throws off their conversational patterns. And then it gets them in defense mode and they're like, oh, you're shy or you're weirder, you're coming off a little rude. Like I can't, I can't redo. So all my friends are neurodivergent.

That makes sense. It's just two different talking patterns. It's like there's no like right or wrong, but they're just like so different. And I click so easily. It's like, boom, like whenever someone's neurodivergent. And I feel like when you are, you could really scope it out. Yeah. I noticed that. But when I first met you, I was like, those guys like really unique, really interesting. Thank you, dude. That's actually awesome. Thank you. You also really like nice. You're just like a nice dude. Thank you so much. That means a lot. Because you know when you meet people, you normally like, oh, this based on what you see or based on what you perceive, obviously, you don't know the truth about people. But you're going to get this like, you're going to have this. Maybe it's based on the way you look

or the popularity or, you know, that sort of thing, clout, this sort of shit. that you think someone's going to give you a different version than what you're expecting. Yeah, totally. You're, I talk to you a few times. You're just like a regular ass dude. I try to, like, I try to just like, you know, like I, yeah, I feel like every, every person you talk to is like a meaningful conversation. Like, I'm always worried that someone's going to think I'm rude because I've met so

many people that I got a little closer to that thought I was rude when I first met them. Like, like I came off as I wasn't interested in speaking to them. or I was just really closed off. And I hate that because, like, in my mind, like, I think I'm doing a good job, at least, like, doing the best I can do. So whenever someone says I'm nice, that means a lot. Yeah. I mean, bro, you're just regular dude.

Thank you, dude. Definitely, like, a little interesting, but, like, that's why. Being a regular dude is such a compliment, too. Like, that's, that's what I want to be felt as. Yeah. Well, it's true. And it's cool that, like, you know, when the way you talk about it, um, and how, you know, obviously you want people to perceive you or how,

you want to be perceived, you're, you're just normal. Obviously, the way you look is like saying something completely different. Yeah, I really, I really like to express myself strongly. Like, I like to have my own unique look. It just like makes me feel good. Yeah. I, I guess maybe, I don't know if I relate. I guess I kind of relate to that. It's the whole gym thing, being like, knee deep in the gym for forever. Totally. I, like, yeah. No, I, I, I, I, I could, like, picture, I feel like I could picture, like, you know, like, like for you, I would say, like, it's cool to be someone that someone could be for Halloween. I feel like someone could be you. So I feel like you're doing a good job. Someone used to be. Yeah. They put the hat on. Really? I let's go. Yeah. I think that's

awesome. You know, like I always like to think of things is like, obviously like there's people that do the same thing. But like I like to think of like my thing. Like I like to think of like my snake bites. Like, oh, that's my, that's like my thing. I mean, it's other people's things too. But like when it comes to me personally, like it feels like my thing. Like it feels like my identity. Like I like to wear an identity on my sleeves. Yeah, I get it. It's kind of same with the bodybuilding thing. You're kind of like, you become that. Totally. Dude, totally. When did you decide to do this? In 2023. Yeah. So a lot was working out for me. And it actually kind of put me in a spiral of how I wanted to be perceived because I didn't know if I could like die the next day. I would look in the

mirror and I would see myself and just think like if I died tomorrow, like do I look like exactly like how I would want to be remembered. And I had, yeah, I had like a few tattoos, but I wanted to be blasted. And when it comes to like rock stars, you know, it's like they kind of just like pop out of the womb blasted. Like when they're famous, they're already blasted. And I was just like, I was just, I was looking in the mirror. I was like, I don't think this is how I want to be perceived when I die.

So I was getting a lot of tattoos. I was getting the piercings I want. And I was just like going really hard at like what I wanted and how. I wanted to be perceived and I'm really happy with how I look now. People don't really think about when you make a big jump online, how it kind of like affects you mentally because it's a blessing at the end of the day. But like everyone that I've been around that had a big leap, it's easy to spiral. You know, like all the attention on you. It's just so hard to deal with. But, you know, the blessings outweigh it. But I've seen it on a lot of my friends like them really struggle like

with their self image like after it happens. We struggle with the way that people are now perceiving them? Yeah. Yeah. Like because people, when you, when you have more of a niche community, people are a lot more nice,

like the people watching are your supporters. But when you go outside of that, then you have people that don't give it about you that want to give you a negative opinion and we'll roast you. When you're going more viral. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You have like your own little bubbles opinion versus like the general population. So it was really. hard to like transition to being comfortable hearing everyone's opinion. I see what you're saying. Yeah. But that's just sort of like that's the internet. That's how it's always been. Literally, literally. You're not going to get everyone to like you. Literally. And it's also like a teeter-totter. You know, there's good and there's bad moments. Like it's, it's a blessing at the end of day. And you know, not everything is in rainbows and unicorns. So but like, you know what it's interesting is this is one thing that I noticed was when everything worked out on the come up, we noticed that a lot of

people were really like representing liking us. But then once we were kind of coasting for a bit, then it was like, I don't know. I don't want to sound arrogant, but how do you describe coasting? What do you mean by coasting? Just like staying, trying to stay like where you are. Right. Okay. Just like riding the wave. Not like in an arrogant way at all, but like I felt like while we were taking off, people really were representing liking us. Like people were just making a lot of content about liking us. Like I think it was like for a moment like it was cool to like us. But then like we were coasting for a bit and it got to the point where where I feel like it was like if two people are in a room and one person's like, yeah, I like Jake. Then the other person wants to be like, I'm actually cool because I don't like him.

So like then we had this wave. I feel like everyone hated us. That's like that teeter-totter effect. And now I feel like I'm like just coasting. You know, I have people that hate me. I have people that love me. I'm just happy to be where I'm at. But, you know, on the come up, you know, it's just a weird mental thing, you know.

And it's it's weird because the internet will love you. and then just flip and it's just like you have to stay sane. But right now, you know, like, yeah, I'm just like coasting and enjoying it and trying not to look at the bad. Yeah. What they say, you know, the classic sane is a thin line between love and hate. Oh, totally. No, totally. I think my haters love me.

Yeah, that's true. I'm a big supporter of my haters. Because if, like, my haters could hate anyone. They could like focus on hating something. Like, why, like, why do you want to hate a social media greater that you just don't like? like the fact that they're giving so much energy. It's almost like attention. People want attention.

Yeah, because I'll get those messages for someone who don't say some like nasty to me and I'll just be like, hey, appreciate it. No, you're like, I love you. I was trying to get your attention.

And I'm like, damn, okay. It's funny. I mean, but that's just like in general in life, whether you're a social media creator or not. Like you're just not going to get everyone to love you,

period. Yeah. No matter what you do, no matter how much good you do, I've always said this. It's like I've seen it so many times. I've felt it my own ways and social media over the years. You just can't. You can't make everyone appreciate what you're doing,

but you don't do it for those people. Yeah. You do it for the people that with you. Yeah, totally. It's like at some point, like, I'll notice people from, people will message me. I'll get messages. People would be like, yo, I used to make videos and talk about you in like three years later. Like, oh, I actually saw all this other content. I actually really appreciate you. And I'm sorry. I said this. And it's like, but you can't do it to make all these people happy. Totally. I feel like the internet just perceives everything is black and white. When there's just so much depth to everything. Even people like, like what I was saying earlier, like meeting people, the first impression is just never the same as when you get to know someone. Yeah, it's a fact. Everyone just

has so much more depth. And the internet has a problem with just seeing everything so black and white. Well, yeah, it's because they don't know anything beyond that. They just know what they see and then their perception based on what they know about life in general. And they just put a label on and they say, okay, this is this because I know this. Totally. I think it is like a billboard, like you drive by a billboard and it just says like one sentence about someone you look by and you you carry on driving you're like okay that's what i think about them but you don't know anything in depth about it yeah no but but that's that's also just a part of this that you can't you can't like hold yourself to trying to like you don't think this about me you just do what you do yeah yeah you just got to do it

like i've tried to fight back i've tried to like especially with so much of my life being private like i'm just always like you guys like don't get it like you don't know what things are actually like you don't know like these special moments that I have that I never show but it's like I could say that a million times it'll never change opinions so like I sometimes it's worse than others like sometimes I still will kind of like fight back and just say just give a reminder of like where I stand and and how I feel but for the most part they'll never get it so it's fine but that's all you're supposed to be doing just this is who you are because you got to where you're I mean because people appreciated who you are like who you actually are yeah

So if you just keep doing that and however you change, however you grow, as long as like the content or the art, whatever you put out is always representative, representative of you, then like they're going to choose yes or no every single time anyway. So it's like, as long as you're happy doing something that makes you happy with the people that you enjoy doing it with, that's it. Yeah, dude, totally. Yeah, I'm happy with what I do. Like, I'm happy with what I put out and I'm happy just for everything I got.

What plans do you have now like with content? Where do you want to go with it? Oh man, just like the same thing, but better. You know, I'm a big believer in like if it ate broke, don't break it or whatever, whatever the hell they say. But like, you know, what I do right now is like what people want to see and I, and I know that. So I just want to do it better.

I feel like you'd be good in movies, bro. Dude, that'd be so sick. I have no acting skills. My dream is for someone to come up to me and just be like, hey, you want to be in this movie. No, but you got like that you got a specific like look like you should be in a movie. Yeah, yeah, somewhere in a movie. Dude, that would be sick.

I would love that. Like, I don't know. acting skills, but like I would definitely take the opportunity if it was there. I think you'd be able to figure it out. Yeah, totally. That would be so sick. But like with music, that is something like I'm happy with my content. I'm proud of it.

I think I do a good job at it. With music, there's definitely so much growth that I need to do there. So that is something that I see as like a goal, like getting better at that. Yeah. What do you work? How do you work towards that now? Just, just, I'm trying to be on my phone list because I want to think more. You know, I feel like every in between moment in life.

that's so real. No, dude, okay, I threw it over there, but Apple Watch changed my life. Really? Yeah, because I always would have the feeling that I'm missing out on something. But when I have my Apple Watch, like, I get all my notifications still, but I'm not scrolling. So like, my messages sound a little robotic because I'd be like, dude, it was so good to see you. Hope you're having a great day.

And it's like everything's like capitalized and periods. But the moment I got an Apple Watch, dude, my screen time went from nine hours to six. So it worked. And it is crazy how much like that that phone being like just on it all the time scrolling will take away from your ability to actually create something new. Totally. There's so much time to you feel. There's so much things to do like like in that six hours. Like yeah, we work on our phones. But when I'm on my Apple watch, like I'm doing laundry and I'm like journaling. I want to think more because I feel like it's almost like logging out of yourself whenever you're scrolling. Like you're not existing. Like I want to like like the big thing I learned is like. you should be comfortable being bored. Like I want to just sit down and just daydream. Like I want to think about things, you know,

because like anytime I'm sitting and there's nothing going on, it's like logging out, you know. Yeah, well, that's also, I mean, they've done tons of studies on this, like the effects of the social media and the phone on our brains. Like it literally, they've actually proven that your ability to be creative is like almost completely taken away.

Damn. Like legitimately, they've proven that like this, when you're in silence is actually when you're, your brain can actually be creative. That's so true. And then there's also the thing that is happening where, like I was saying, if you're constantly looking at it, then you're sort of all your thoughts are going towards what is already out there.

And then you have to think, if you're trying to be someone who's creative, making something new for people to be engaged with, like if your thoughts are what's already happening, you're more likely to just create more of what's already happening and less of what's new. Totally, dude. That inspires me to even be more off my thought.

She should be a monk, dude. Just go live in the fucking... Dude, that'd be crazy. That would crazy. I mean, like, I think of myself as a creative person. So the fact that, like, I'm not at my potential is interesting. Like, I would, like, the fact that there's a potential, like, more creative version of myself is really cool. I do want to strive for that.

Like, I do want to be more creative. I want to unlock more things. I want to think about more things. I just want to think more in general. You ever do ayahuasca? No, but I know, but I know DMT. Oh, okay. Ascid.

Yeah. I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, dabbled. Yeah. The DMT was nuts, dude. Did you smoke it? Yeah. Yeah. I hit it out of a vape.

That's the most insane way to do it. But not out of a bong. Like that's crazy. With the vape, you got to hit it three times. But there's like, there's something tricky about it. So like after the first rip,

like everything starts to go like, oh, dude, I feel like people watching this are going to have no idea what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter. Because it's like, it's just like, it's just something that like makes no fucking sense. For the people watching, it's just like literally the gnarliest psychedelic ever.

Like, you know, people's lives get changed after it. But, but. Wait, no, describe, I want you to describe it because I can kind of relate to this. Yeah, okay. So, like, the first hit of the vape, like, everything was, like, wobbling. I was hearing, like, a light ringing.

And I was like, I'm done. But, like, the thing is, it's, like, you have to get past that. And that's the most part is because, like, when you hit it out of a vape, it's, like, not enough to, like, give you a full story to tell. So, like, you hit it one more time. And it's just, like, going, woo, it's just getting way crazier. And it's like, you got to hit it one more time. And, like, literally everything in my body is telling me not to do it.

But like I was with my friends. So we were encouraging each other. So I hit it like a third time. And then that's when like it was so like my vision was so fucked up. Then I closed my eyes. And then there was like a perfect picture. So I was like moving forward and there's like pyramids. And there was like a little spider monkey that was like bouncing back and forth from the pyramids.

And it was almost like a motherly figure. And I remember the most up part that made me just like think this is like beyond. comprehension is um so i did it twice yeah the second time i did it i was in my living room and i looked at a chair and then i hit it for the first time and then i looked back at the chair and it was polka dot so only the chair and that's what like me up is because like you know it was almost like it had like a mind of its own or something because it's like how the did this thing like that i just take make only the chair polka dot because like when you take like acid or mushrooms like everything's kind of waving, everything's kind of moving.

But like only the chair was polka dot. Everything else around it was right. Everything was normal. Yeah. Yeah. And then I looked over and like the couch was polka dot and I'm like, whoa, what the fuck?

I could feel like my brain is like painting pictures for me. It was insane. I really didn't like there wasn't something that I really took out of it besides that I like the idea of like getting taken care of. That was like one thing that really stood out to me is because like afterwards like our brains were mushed and we went to iHop and we had a waitress that was like just pouring me coffee and she's kept pouring me coffee and I just like felt like such a warmth in my heart from her pouring me coffee. I'm like that means so much to me. So I was like I really care when people like

do a genuine thing for me like when someone shows care towards me it means a lot to me. And after I did that, that is the one thing I took from it is that like I, that's something that like I sensitively care about is when someone thinks about me and does something small for me. like the spider monkey telling me that. No, but that's real though. It is real. Even though it sounds like simple. Yeah.

Or maybe some people might think insignificant, but that's, that's real. Yeah, yeah, totally. Because then it's like the idea is that then obviously that's what you want to be able to do for people.

Totally, totally. And I've always been obsessed with like trying to figure out the way I think and the way I feel because like when I was growing up. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Like, uh, I didn't get diagnosed. with autism until I was like 24, 25, which I totally understand because I got diagnosed with ADHD as a kid because they, they easily, easily get misdiagnosed with each other, especially in women. Women are so underdiagnosed with autism. And I was just always questioning myself, I was like, why do I feel so different? Like, why does something feel so off? So my whole life, like, I've been trying to get to the bottom of it. When I got diagnosed, like, that was like the best

feeling. I was like, okay, like, I could be happy with myself. This can make sense. Because before that, I was like, why, why am I the way I am? I hate this. Like the way you think. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, why do I not get along with others as well as other people? Why do I not make friends so easy?

Like when I was with Tara, like, she's such a social butterfly. And that was actually an insecurity of mine was that like I felt like our friends that really enjoyed being her friend. And it was really hard for me to maintain friendships. So like she was she was really good at like keeping up with them. And like I was struggling with that. So when I did become a individual like, that's when I got diagnosed and like that's when I started like to like make my own friends so

you know it was just such a journey for me it sounds like when you start to just accept yourself who you are yeah oh my god like when I got diagnosed I was like oh my god this is me like I love me like before that I was like I hate me because you thought someone was wrong with you yeah I thought someone was wrong with me like I just didn't know what it was and there was no answer for it because people always would tell me like why doesn't matter if you're diagnosed and it just makes me comfortable with being who I am. So you actually went, you actually went to get tested. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's, and it's, it's, it's a process too. They don't make it easy, especially with adults because usually only, uh, the tests are made for kids. Like a lot of people get late diagnosed. It's actually really hard. Um, because like, like you look at the test and it will look like it's made for like sixth graders. So that's, you had to go do this test.

What does that process actually like then? There's like a lot to it. It was so long ago, but it was, it was questions and it was doing puzzles. It was like a big thing. Yeah, that's interesting. But like, yeah, it's, it's definitely like catered towards children. I feel bad because I feel like there's a lot of people that maybe aren't diagnosed that are adults. And, and yeah, it's, it's hard to get diagnosed.

When you were younger, was it, was it the way that you, the way that you thought about what you were doing? Like, you were like, you were you constantly questioning? Is this normal? I think that was always a little. That's what I thought. I think that my parents thought that, but they saw it in a good way. They just thought I just like had something unique about me.

So when everything was like harder for me, when it was harder to make friends and it was harder to do school, they were like, well, he has his own path that he's figuring out. Like they believe to me. So they're so sick for that. But yeah, everything was just a little harder for me. But now that like I'm in my element, like I do what I want, I feel so blessed because like the things that I care for I could be good at. The things I don't care about, I'm going to suck at.

I relate to that so heavily. Hell yeah, dude. Does that mean I'm autistic or some shit? What's going on here? Yeah, dude, you could be. Like, it's such a big spectrum. And if anything, like neurodivergent is also such a big spectrum, you know, like ADHD. Because I remember being young and being like obsessed.

I mean, obviously I lost my father when I was really young and it made me think about life and death. But I was also like constantly thinking about the way I thought. Was it normal to think the way that I thought about my. own thoughts. Well, you know what's interesting. And this is something that I took into thought. Someone told me one time, if you're questioning that you might be different from others, you might be because the general crowd doesn't do that. Like, the general person doesn't ever question the way they think or or or the way they feel like they're just, you know, totally neurotypical core. Like they're not sitting at home like questioning things like that. You know, like someone

that's autistic is thinking, why is this not? Why are these puzzle pieces not fitting? Like when I go and socialize, why is it like, why are all the paths I'm trying to take like not work? Like what's the difference there? And it's because like you just have a completely different form of brain, you know, like different form of communication, interest in all this. So I always think like it when someone's like questioning it, there could be something there to look into. It doesn't mean anything specific, but it does like open maybe a door for understanding something a little more. Yeah. Maybe I got to go take that test.

Yeah. Like, because I know a lot like a lot of people self-diagnosed and I understand that. But like if someone has the finances like pay for it, then that's good. But like if you don't like, I don't know like, you know, I feel like there's a lot of online tests and they don't, it's not like it diagnoses you, but it more so opens that door for you to explore that thought more. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So like a lot of people take that online tests and they're like, oh, I'm autistic. But like, yeah, it doesn't confirm it.

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Oh, which, what year? 2026. Oh, nice. Yeah. But for the most part, I'm not a big blower. You know, I don't get tables at the club and I don't gamble or anything like that. Everything, everything that I buy usually is video oriented. I came from Kansas from a small town and, you know, I was always taught to save.

Yeah. So I'm really not a big spender like that. Yeah, smart decision sounds like. investing in house like that yeah totally like when i was a kid my my dad would give me however old i was like if i was like 15 i would get 15 dollars every friday and if i wanted something like beats headphones then i would save up for multiple Fridays until i could afford them myself so like we would rely on our allowances and i think that's what made me a saver yeah because like my like i didn't like get things you know like unless it was like christmas or my birthday you know like i didn't like get things that

like i randomly wanted i would have to rely on the allowance to be able to save up and get it. Yeah, I get it. Yeah. It didn't necessarily come from money. That makes sense. Yeah. So you value it, you keep more of it.

Yeah, totally. You're not a big gambler, though? I love gambling. Dude, I went to Vegas the other week, and I spent $100 and me and my friend, we felt sick. We're like, whew, damn. $100? Yeah. Well, we started at $100.

We got to $200, but then we lost $100. And we're like, well, let's leave. Let's leave. That's, dude, I can't even, oh, my God. I can't gamble less than like $5,000. I don't know. I don't get like a rush from it. But like, but like, but I totally could understand it. Like, because I do get a rush like when I win, but like it's not that big of a rush. What if you put $10,000 on a hand of blackjack? Dude, I don't even like, wow, I just, I couldn't even imagine that feeling.

Like, maybe I should try some time to experience that feeling. No, no, no, no. It's going to, it's going to fuck you up. Well, like, well, like to feel that feeling, though, because like, it's something that I don't understand that feeling yet. And maybe, like, it would be cool to understand it. Because like, I have. You should do for a video. Go to Vegas, put $10,000 on a hand.

Just sweat it. Blackjack or like on roulette? Blackjack or backerot. Yeah. That's like the, that's where. banker or player. Is it easy? I mean,

it's all kind of like 60, 40 odds. It's not really. I'm gonna take out a loan for this. I'm fired up. No, you should do it. I'm down. I'll go with you. I'll do it too.

We'll do a video. Dude, I would totally do it for like the human experience. Like, let's, yeah, and definitely, I would definitely have to film it.

But don't they like, they turn off the camera though, right? No, they'll let us film at Red Rock. Oh, really? Yeah,

yeah. Oh, dude. I'm about it. I would totally do that. Like just just for the one time, but what if you unleash a beast of me, dude? If you, yeah, I know, that's what I'm afraid of. Then you're just like, because if you win, then you're like, I could do this again.

Totally. But if you lose. If I won, I would, I would actually vow to never gamble again. And also if I lost, I would do, I would do the same thing. It hurts so much. I've lost $25,000 on one hand. That's the fear. That's the fear.

Like, I'm thinking like, I don't know if I could stomach that. It's the worst feeling in the world. Yeah. But I want to feel that. I want to feel what that feels like to feel like the worst feeling in the world. Yeah, you should go try. It would be a good ass video. Yeah.

Totally. Oh my God. Yeah. I mean, I feel like that could be the title, right? Yeah. Losing 10,000 dollars. Putting down, putting down my entire net worth on black. No, you're worth more than 10,000, but that could be the video title for sure. No, I'll put that. We'll go higher than 10,000. We'll put it all, baby. We'll put it all. Imagine. No, no, I would be sick. I think 10,000 is a good number. I think, like, you know, I'm pretty comfortable. So I think that it would hurt, like, I think my financial advisor would rip me a new hole but it's a good video i think oh yeah i forgot it's for a video no that's fine i've spent more on videos like what's the most you spent on a video before going to paris i i paid for me

and eight other friends we all got five-star hotel and every single night we had five-star dinners um but i i only did it because i wanted to prove that i could take care of everyone and make money from the video and and be able to give everyone a good trip without it being a burden or anything I took care of everyone, every single thing, every Uber. I don't think I made that back. How much was that? Oh my God, dude. I don't know.

Probably like... That had to be like 80K. Yeah, yeah. No, I would say like maybe like nearing 100,000. Yeah. And the video is probably definitely not made that. Like I only have a few videos that I've made over $100,000. But it was worth it.

It was worth it. And time, time, it's like a snowball, you know, just because they didn't make it back immediately doesn't mean like over time it'll eventually match itself you know like I'm blessed to be able to do that like and I got a video out of it like I'm proud of the video I don't really care about money in that sense like I'm just glad that I'm able to like do videos and do what I want that's where I care about it like I'm so happy that it made me comfortable yeah you were able to do it that's cool yeah I had to like break out of that mindset because for a bit like I definitely had enough to where I was comfortable but my brain

did not allow me um it was like little things like like paying for things like it would like hurt me a little bit and I'm like but like in reality in reality I'm like I should not worry about this like it's kind of just like you know when you go your whole life like thinking about money yeah um it takes a lot to like not think about it even when you don't have to I see what you're saying yeah so like To break out of that idea that like I shouldn't, but you could. Yeah, yeah, totally. Now, now like, oh my God, like, I'll, like, I'll pay for all my friends' drinks. Like, I don't care.

Like, I, like, if it's for my friends, like, I'll do it. Like, I don't give a shit. Like, I don't want to be stingy. That's the only thing. Like, I don't care to, like, get club tables and, and blow money on. But if it involves, like, my friends, like, at dinner, it's like, you know, sometimes, like, I'll ask if, no, I honestly don't. Like, when, like, you ask people to, like, pay.

back like it would just split it evenly like I'll just pay for it like I'm blessed to be like comfortable in that sense so if I'm at the bar like I'll pay for my friends like I don't care like that's I'm happy to be like comfortable in that sense yeah I hate bars dude I love them because like when I first became single that was where I went to make friends and that's actually where I met my recent girlfriend yeah and yeah I like that's that's where I could break out of my bubble it's kind of hard for me to meet people outside of that yeah I was going to ask who are bars, but I'm not going to ask you what bars because it's like, yeah, well, I mean, like the ones I went to are kind of like getting a little repetitive. I kind of want to switch

it up. So honestly, currently not a specific one right now. I've never been a bar person ever. It depends on where you go. Like, you got to find people that match your energy. Like the ones that I went to, everyone was doing the same thing as me. There's a lot of pretty girls. Um, there's, there's a lot of people in the entertainment. I would always walk away with a great conversation. you know and that's what that's what i value when i go to the bar is if i could leave without just getting drunk but like like leaving with a conversation that was good like that makes my day because like i don't care to get drunk really like i don't care to drink it more so just kind of loosens me up so like if i go out and i'm like i just got drunk and i walked away with nothing

at value with with conversations from someone or making a friend then i'll just be like damn like what a waste of a night like i just got drunk i chud max they got taco bell one when I got home. What the fuck? Yeah. And I feel like I go to bars and I'm just, you're just yelling. It's like loud.

You're like, oh yeah, totally depends on the bar. Yeah, no, like, like, I mean,

there's so many, but like, there's only like one or two that I like, you know, it's, it's, it's kind of like, people that are kind of in the bar culture

will tell you the right ones. But, oh, dude, yeah, there's so many that are so damn loud. I hate yelling. Also, like,

karaoke is like a popular night for bars and like, why would I want to hear this song, but like, I also hate when they're good too because it feels like they're showing off like get your ass off the mic bro. You're like planning this and everything. Yeah. Like show off bro. Yeah.

They've been practicing that for a month. No, for real. For real. Honestly, I'd rather hear like a terrible person than a good person at a bar. That's real. God. Yo, I feel like you would drive like a Harley or some shit. Dude, that would be sick.

How do you not have a motorcycle? I should totally get one. But like I think I would be scared of driving it on the highway. I would like take it to 7-Eleven. That would be sick. Yeah, but when you get a bike, like I have a bike, you got to like go with people also have bikes. Yeah. Otherwise it's like, yeah, you're going to get cooked.

Okay. Yeah, no, totally. And you got to have like a biker game. I'm kind of a daydreamer. So like I'm scared because like when I'm driving in my car, it gives me a sense that I might be like swerving a little or something. Like, because I'll like accidentally just like start drifting off. I just like like I think I'm a good driver, but you know, I daydreamer. a lot. No, when you're on a bike, you can't.

Exactly. I got a lock in. It locks you in. It doesn't, you can't do that. What's like a cheap bike? Because, like, with the Corvette, I didn't know if I'd like a sports car. So, it was a good price. And it's like, if I learned to really love it, because I didn't know if I'd get sick of it.

I was like, I'm going to get like a real, like, a really crazy car. And I actually am really liking a lot, but I think I'd do the same thing with motorcycle. It's like, maybe like just a cheaper, good one. And then if I really like it, then I'll lock in on a nice one. Yeah, I'll show you mine on the way out, but you can, bikes are not that expensive. Oh, cool.

You go like a nice, I feel like you'd be your look like would fit on a Harley more than anything. Oh, there's like the, I mean, there's a type. That's a type. But yeah, you could, there's a, I'll show you mine. You'll see what I'm saying. There's a ton of different, like. Well, when I play GTA, I like the ones that look like dirt bikes. So you want a dirt bike?

I also have a dirt bike. Well, like the ones that just like looks sporty. Like it looks like a little. Oh, you want a sport bike. Yeah, like, oh. Yeah, like looks like a Lamborghini as a, as a bike. Yeah. Oh, it shows like a street bike.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like on Gita, like, you know, like the yellow ones. I feel like you would get a Dukadi then. Those are a little more expensive, but they're really nice. Like how expensive at those? Depends what kind. Dude, I got to go on. My buddy Rob, he loves them and he did make me a little interested in them.

Oh, fuck, dude. No, it's so bad. I feel like, no, maybe I shouldn't tell you to do this. No, dude. Because it's such a, it's so fun. But you have to ride with people otherwise you're cooked out here in L.A. No, I'm definitely like a super safe person. I think that sometimes I come, dude, yes.

Like that is what I would want. Yeah, yeah, street bike. That is exactly what I would want. I don't think people realize how safe of a person I am. Like, I would take it really easy. Yeah. Yeah, until you get used to it, then you're like, watch this shit. Yeah, I don't like to step into like danger or be reckless, you know, like, I feel like the most like reckless thing about me is like my own mind, you know, like I like just fighting my own thoughts.

but in reality, you know, like, I'm not like a person that's going to go out and do something crazy. Like, I'm, I'm very calm in real life. And I try to be respectable of others. Like, I'm not like a wild guy. Yeah, I get it. Well, I only brought this up because I think it's the type of content you make, it's almost like you can just do whatever you want. And these are just like, if you're interested, things you could do that. This is like a cool experience that I would love to have.

Like, I think it's awesome to be honest. Like I would be so down. You ever ridden a dirt bike? Yeah, yeah. And it was fun. It was fun. What about shooting guns? You ever done that?

I did that recently with Rob. Do you know Rob Rausch? No, I don't. He's on a lot of reality shows. Coolest fucking dude ever. Country dude. I rode his dirt bike, shot his guns, caught a snake. He had to bite me.

I got like the full Alabama experience. He had a bite me? What the fuck is that? He had the snake bite me twice. Oh, he had a snake bite you. Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck kind of snake?

It was a black racer. I guess like if I don't know if he said it was venomous. If it was and it wasn't a lot. But like he's like a snake catcher. Got it. That's like his big thing. And you're like you want to see what it's like being bit by a snake. You're like,

yeah. He wanted me to get bitten by it. He said it's just like the experience of like hanging out with him or the Alabama experience like getting bitten by a snake. That's valid. Yeah. And actually I don't really feel it. So you know it's actually interesting.

Sorry. Sometimes I get a little off topic. But same topic. It's fine. Yeah. I was thinking. when I got bit, because I didn't really feel it. It's kind of interesting because when you think about like the most poisonous snake in the world,

what if the bite just feels like nothing, then it kills you. Yeah, then you're cooked. Yeah, but like when you think of like the most poisonous, you think that it's going to hurt like. But like there's aspects where a snake's bite really doesn't feel like much. Like it just feels like, you know, you might not even notice it. I didn't know I was bitten until I saw the blood drip. But I just thought that was an interesting perspective. Like the most snake in the world, like the snake that will kill you immediately might not have a bite that you even

notice. Yeah, probably don't hurt, but then eventually you're going to be like, whoa, why do I feel so terrible? Or it's probably swelling. Yeah. I actually got, I got, I don't know if I got bit by a snake, but I got like a snake like lunged and smacked my back, like a big ass snake. I did this video back in the day with Jay Prehistoric. He's got like all these giant, yeah, yeah, I met him. Giant anacondas. And I was in a, like, at his place in Orange County, I went into like the, I don't know what you call it, the snake's ecosystem thing that he has there, like the cage thing, glass thing. And there was like five of these big ass snakes.

And he was just like, yeah, get in there. They're like friendly. I was like in there and filming a video. And this big ass snake. I'm talking about these snakes are enormous. Did not like that I was in there. And it smacked me in the back. And that actually hurt.

Wait, so when it smacked you, like did you feel it as like a hit or like a stab? The top felt a little bit like a stab. And the, but it didn't feel like a complete stab, stab, stab. It felt kind of like a stab at the top, but more of a hit.

So it's like, so it's like body weight like slamming a deal. Yeah, like it went like that to my back. It was actually like, it scared the shit out of me. I was like I'm getting out of this thing. Yeah, that's freaky. No, it hit me hard. Dude. Like is it basically like I was looking like this way and it's straight in the middle of my back just like went like that. Oh my God. Dude, my heart would drop. Yeah, I got the out of there immediately. Dang. I was like, this is not a good idea. I think my biggest like what makes it a fear to me because it's one of my fears. It stinks for my fear. So it took a lot for me to do that. But it's just like the idea of like you don't know what they're thinking. You don't know what they're thinking. obviously they're not like evil creatures but it's like you just cannot tell if you're provoking them or whatever I guess with snakes you can but spiders like I yeah they don't they don't like you don't like the face for you to give you like a tell yeah yeah it was just so scary to hold it because I didn't know like like I also didn't know what it was like to get bit so it just felt like I was just doing something what it was I was doing something new for the first time and it scared me but it wasn't too bad

yeah but yeah so I never thought about a snake like baseball bat in you. No, that freak me the fuck out. But I'm not even afraid of snakes. I just think they're cool. Yeah, they are sick. Like, I get it. The snake was just like,

yo, you're in my shit. I got to get out. Totally. So I got to get out. But I was just saying, like, things like this would be cool where like you could do, it's like,

because your content is just so, just you doing whatever the fuck you want. I know, it's the best. Like, I love that. Like, I love that it's personality based. I would hate to be like in a bubble. I kind of am in my own bubble. You know, like, people don't want to see me run a marathon or something.

You know, like, they do want to do things that I'm insane, though. It would be sick. It would be sick. But it's like, it's kind of like the idea of like Dr. Phil like going on a marathon. It's like people want to see Dr. Phil for the Dr. Phil show. Like they don't want to see him like ride a bike or something. Like I would never watch Dr. Phil ride a bike. But I am aware of like the somewhat niche that I'm in. So I always will try to keep it relative to what I do. But I guess I would just try to form it in a way that it feels the same.

Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. Like it still feels like. the content I put out. Yeah. Yeah. So the bike, the motorcycle makes more sense than you running a marathon. Oh, yeah, dude. I mean, I feel like that does fit my vibe. Like, I feel like if someone saw me on a motorcycle, it just wouldn't be surprising. Like, that sounds sick. And like, I got a 7-Eleven by my house that I do go to for smokes quite often. So, like, it would be just so fun for that

to be like my 7-Eleven smoke bike. It's so stupid. It's funny. Yeah, but it'd just be fun. And like, you know, like, I'm inspired, dude. You got me inspired. It's just, they're so dangerous. They're so dangerous. I'll be so careful on it. I don't want to be the guy that someone clips later on. No, no.

What happened to Fing, Joe? Shit, it's Brad's fault. What did you do? What did you? No, I'm so careful, bro. Like, I'm such a careful, dude. If it does end up happening, who knows. But it does, it does sound awesome.

Yeah. What else you got planning for today? What do you normally? Like, what's your normal day like besides the gym? because I see you there every day. Wake up at the morning at like 7 a.m. Take creatine gummies. Rip a monster.

Yeah. Hit the gym. Then the rest of the day I edit or film. I try to squeeze it and hanging out with a friend. Maybe that's like twice a week. I feel like that's like my purpose being around my friends. Like that's like my favorite thing to do. But you know, everyone's busy.

So but like I love to squeeze that in. I love to squeeze hangouts in. But for the most part, editing or filming. You edit all your own videos? Yeah, yeah. The whole thing. Yeah. Oh shit.

I just have like a certain style that I do that. No, I've seen it. It's good. Thank you. Yeah. After I edit or film, I'll try to hit up a friend and hang out or go to an event or go to a bar or something. Like I want to be social. And then at the end of the night, I watch TV until I fall asleep.

I feel like you watch frickin Morty and shit. That's what I actually love Love Island right now. But it feels bad. Love Island? Well, all my friends is watching like, oh, I, dude, I have friends that were on it. And I do feel like a bad guy watching. watching it because like the way they explain it like it was just like it's like almost like psychological torture like that being on the show yeah yeah that shit is real like I feel like some people think

it's fake like that shit is real um well they coerce a lot of stuff they make them do things don't they maybe like persuasion like oh what do you think about this you know like but it's not like scripted other than that like I like horror movies I like thrillers but with what I eat every day cod and french fries like every day like that's like i like to eat like a dog because like if i if i eat like fast food dude i don't know when i'm full i actually i have a lot of self-discipline there because the dopamine that i get from eating is stronger than my feeling of fullness so i like try not to eat something that's too good you just keep eating yeah no yeah yeah yeah i like i barely feel fullness. Like I do it. I have my friends like my friends are my friends are pretty slim and and

they'll like eat Taco Bell and like they'll put half the breeder down and be like damn oh I'm sick I'm like bro I have no idea what that feels like oh you could for sure be a fat guy. Oh yeah no and I've had my chubby moments but I'm also good at like food challenges like I have my face on a few walls like you've crushed some some like you if you get all this and this amount of time yeah yeah wait which ones. Well, this one's a spiced one, but it was like this place called Mainchick, Hot Chick. It was like their spiciest sandwich. It was, I could crush that. Yeah. You could get on the wall if you finish it. Like, wasn't too bad. I'm not a spice guy, but I love spice. If you want a little trophy there, I don't know if they're still doing it. But there's this burger at Fat Burger where you get on the wall for you eat the whole thing. It's pretty big, but I did it. But like, I love the idea of like putting your trophy in places. Like it's so sick. Wait, how big was the burger, a fat burger? Like this big? I don't know.

It was big. You had to eat a certain amount of time, I'm assuming. I don't remember. It was quite a while ago. Like I've, I, I, I tried out. Which burger is this at? I do what? Which one?

Which fat burgers is that? Hollywood. Oh, so you're in the Hollywood one. Yeah. I try to do fat salads. Like I have a sandwich at fat sales. I try to do their challenge, but that was. You have a sandwich?

Yeah, it's called a fat Jake. Oh, that's fucking sick. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, so I can go to the one down the street from my gym and it's there. It is there. Yeah. Yeah. And it's really good. Like it has a sausage in it, tater tots, gravy. It's a crazy sandwich. Obviously, you helped make it, right? Yeah. Yeah. I went into the room and we were trying to figure out what we should do. I think I coined the start of it being like country fried steak. And they were like putting all the science together of why things could possibly work together. You know, things that don't usually go together that could all come together beautifully. They just like the sandwich. Yeah. Like I guess it's just a really good sandwich. So it's been sticking around. How does that work? they like pay you to do this or do they pay you residuals like how does this work yeah we like got

some some sort of thing going on it's it's been a while though but they are the nicest team they're so creative they have so much passion and the sandwiches they put out like their their menu is so fun like fat sales literally the the coolest franchise ever i was so stoked like they actually we made a sandwich because i tried their like milkshake challenge and then we stayed in touch And then, you know, we talked about having a sandwich together. And they're just like the nicest. Yeah, that's cool. That also looks really good.

You should type in the fat sales challenge shake. This thing is insane. 50 scoops of chocolate ice cream, 50 scoops of vanilla ice cream. Cake of 14. Dude, oh my God. Scroll up, scroll up. Like I 12,000 in a shake, 12,000 calories. Dude, I feel like it's way more.

But like if you look at the image of it, if you look at the image of it. 14 pound dessert challenge. I got, I finished. Half of it. I finished half of ice cream. I finished half of it. Man. Yeah.

That's just crazy. There was a fucking cheesecake in there. Yes, dude. It's diabolical that they just like, you know, it's already so much and the fact that they're putting all the extra stuff. Yeah. I got halfway down. So I'm proud of that.

Yeah. God damn, bro. Yeah. I like, and that was because the time ran out. I was like still going, but you only have 10 minutes. Like does being autistic make you eat more food or some shit? Like, I definitely think. I hyper fixate on food. Like I think it definitely has something to do with me being a foodie.

Because like, like, I just get all giddy whenever I talk about food. That looks insane. Yeah. I feel like afterwards, how do you feel though? Oh, I just like felt like super, super full, you know, but nothing too crazy. I mean, dude, I like, it's something I've struggled with a lot. Like, there's been nights where I eat too much and like the next day I feel like soreness in my stomach. You know, like it's something that I have to pretty much stay on top of or I feel like I'm not in control of myself. Yeah. So, so I actually like, yeah, I try to eat like a dog. I try to eat stuff that's not that fun because it's something that like it's like drugs, dude. I'm like, oh my God. Yeah, dopamine. I can never take one Oreo. No, who the f*** could do that? Or one slice of pizza,

bro. One slice of pizza. You know, like the, the, the average person in the world thinks that one slice of pizza is the whole meal. Like, in my mind, it's three. I mean, in my mind, I mean the whole pizza. No, that's what I want to do. That's what I want to do. That's what I want to do. Oh, God, pizza sounds so good right now. I know, dude. I know. It's like, yeah, I'm definitely, I'm definitely foody. But I'm trying to get all my protein in right now.

I'm trying to, like, build some muscle. I'm trying to, like, I'm trying to hit a new goal that I haven't hit before in weightlifting. And your gym, dude, your gym is, like, the best. Like, the other one down the street, I'm glad I left that one. Yeah, hell, yeah. It's good to have you there. The vibes are good, too. Yeah, yeah.

Like, the other one, like, I remember yours was closed for something. It wasn't closed, but like a section of it was closed. Yeah. So I went to the other gym that I used to go to. And I was like, hey, can I get a day pass? And they're like, well, we don't usually do day passes. This isn't the type of gym to do day passes. Weren't you a member here before?

And I was like, yeah, yeah. And then they're like, I guess we could show you around, but you already know what it looks like. So it's like you either have a membership or you don't. And then like. And I, bro, they would say hi to me every single day. You know, like when I walked in, it was just like. Like it was the energy was crazy because please switch. Yeah.

And it's like I would have paid like whatever like I wanted to get my workout in for the day. And like they were just so weird about it. I was like I can't believe I even went to this gym. Like I didn't. It wasn't something I wanted to support. And it was so expensive for no goddamn reason. Yeah. You know.

I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. But coming to your gym, me and my friend love it. Like I appreciate it. Yeah. And the community is amazing. Like it's it's the best dude. I appreciate that for real.

It's a blessing to have you. And thank you for coming on the podcast for real. Dude, yeah, I'm happy to. I was so excited. Yeah, you're awesome. You're a great dude. And genuinely, like I said earlier, off camera, you're just regular, nice dude. Thank you so much.

That actually means a lot. It's real. It's real. Because like I didn't know what to expect because I, you know, obviously I've seen stuff. I've seen content. You see people how they react to people. But you're just like a good normal person. Thank you, dude.

Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. I'd love to do some content, whatever you want to do. If you ever need me, I'd be happy to help. That would be a lot of fun. Yeah. Thank you so much, brother. You're awesome, man.

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