RAWTALK - Jay Cinco & Lala Baptiste on Dating Online, His Near Death Experience & Their Pregnancy

Episode Date: April 22, 2026

On This Episode Of RawTalk, Bradley Martyn Sits Down With Jay Cinco & Lala Baptiste And Talks About Getting Into Streaming, Making Their First Real Money, The Reality Of Dating On The Internet, When They Knew It Was Real, Growing Up In Compton, His Near Death Experience & Much More!Sponsored by: Pocket HoseTEXT "RAWTALK" to 64000 to Get 2 FREE Gifts with the Purchase of Any Pocket Hose Ballistic Hose!Message and Data Rates May ApplySponsor RAWTALK: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/rawtalkSUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

Oh my gosh. Late night pod. Yeah, no, I like late night vibes, though. It's true. I wish I brought some wine. Do we got some wine? You got some peanut noir wine? Wait, do we?

We got a lot of, yeah, everything in here. Oh, this is what? What's his name? Damn, I should have brought some wine I had. I didn't even know we had it in here. Is Cabernet fire, though? I haven't really, I think I tried a cabernet. That's like going to dry her in, right?

She can't drink. We know that. Yeah, she can't, yeah. I'm wine be lit, bro I ain't gonna She put me on the wine I swear You never drink wine before that

What did you drink before that? What did you drink before that? Nicker Don Julio, nigga You look like a Hennessy guy Yeah Hell no I ain't gonna I try Hennessy one time bro That shit had me too lit

Bro hell never again bro Hell no That's like some old people shit That's some old people That's some old people shit Ain't all Hennessy is like Some old in the hood Like niggas got Hennessy

Like getting drunk As fuck now Don Julio like party vibes Tennessee is like, I don't know, bro. I only drank Tennessee once, bro. I ain't fuck with that shit. Ben put me on to that shit. You know, Ben older, so it's like an older dream.

You too, out of you two, she's older, right? Yeah, she's older to me, and she's older me about what, like two years? How did, how did, I mean, you guys could both answer this separately, but how did you originally get into streaming? Because I know you did YouTube, both you did YouTube. Yeah, I just did it from Streamer University. Like, I went and everyone was streaming, and then it just was easy to learn because everyone around you was doing it.

So I just started there. But I wasn't making money off of it for months. Like, I was just streaming. Yeah, definitely. She's doing it for a love to get. Just to build a community. And then I feel like I got a lot more girls. Yeah.

So then I wanted to keep doing it. Because I used to think streaming you had to be like this crazy personality. Everyone would be like, you're boring. Like when I would be on streams. But then I realized it just is your own audience. Just that niche. Yeah. Like when you have your own audience, like, doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. They're going to want. Want to watch you. Like, yeah. Yeah. Me, I got into a, when I got into a, but I had went through like a bad breakup. Brat went through a bad breakup.

And then I had, uh, so the girl basically had, she had like, she cheated on me, basically. So I'm like, you know, when you get cheated on, you like, man. Like cheated bad? Like, it wasn't too bad, but I mean, cheating is bad regardless to me.

Yeah. But, like, you know what I'm saying? You texting niggas. But I'm taking you out the country, buying you bags and shit. like, come on, bro. You know? But she did that.

I'm like, cool. Like me, I'm the type of nigger. Like, when shit happened to me, I'll be like, all right, just God. Like, all right, what God are you going to tell me? So I'm like, I bet. She did that. I'm just going to go crazy. So I had did this thing where I did this video.

I did these YouTube videos and shit. They went viral. And then I went and linked up with the shit. He was doing a sub-a-thon. And then he was streaming. He had like 20K people in this shit. And then I ended up doing some streams and shit with some, with another person and shit.

But who's the other person? Well, you don't want to say that. My ex. Ah, yeah. I'm like, you know, I'm trying to be that guy. Yeah, I guess. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, I did the stream with my ex, and then it was just going up.

And then after that, I kind of got into like, because I was always trying to find my niche. Like, I swear I was always like, damn, like, what is people going to watch me for? Because I started off as couple content. That's kind of how I got into the YouTube space. You know what I'm saying? I got into a strictly couple content. So I never was used to people watching me for me. You know what I'm saying?

It was more so for the other person. So when I did the streaming shit I just kept doing my streams Like by myself Like you know I would just go out of town I link up with niggas and stream And then the shark and shit came And then after the shark and it was over

After that like I know exactly You made your content about like what hitting on chicks Yeah basically yeah like on some duke shit You know what I'm saying Just like going out partying You know what I'm saying Just girls on me and shit Just throwing like parties get a house

Run them out type shit and just like just stream bro And then I was just going crazy I remember I got banned on Twitch I had like 10K I got banned on Twitch that day I swear bro I made a I made a kick and had 8K the next hour on kick I swear like

I literally made a kick and told them fucking join my kick and I had like 8,000 on my kick bro Why you didn't why don't stay on kick What's the benefit to stay on Twitch? I mean kick is cool don't get me wrong I fuck a kick personally I got a lot of people on kick that I mess with you know

like on their side like the team and stuff but just just just as far as for me it's just mainstream viewership you know what I'm saying I just feel like that's more important important than the money you would get on that side. You know what I'm saying? I think at the time, KICC was coming out with this thing where they're paying hella.

Like for like, you know, upcoming creators, they're paying hella. It's just based on hours you get paid. But it's just like, majority of the viewership isn't on kick, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, you're going to take a hit viewer, like viewer wise for some money. And it's like, I'm trying to build a base, you know what I'm saying? It's not really for the money. I feel like the money had come, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, bros, I still was making 100 plus on Twitter.

So it was like, at that point. it was just what I wanted to do. Did you, did you guys meet through the sharking, through your sharking? No. No, no. I met her. I actually had a crush on her like years prior. So he had her.

Before you met her. Yeah, before I met her. But I didn't like ran into her a couple times and stuff like outside. But I never really said nothing to shop. Yeah, I never met you. Yeah, I was in her DM. Not yet. She'd be saying that, Bubba.

No, because I'm saying like you didn't run into me. Like, we didn't. I'm just saying like I ran into you like I'd be at the hookah lounge and I see her at the Like he's seeing you. Yeah, I'm not saying like I ran into you. I just said I didn't say nothing to you, but, you know, I run into her and see her and shit. And I'd be in her DM. Like, she was the only person I'd be annually sending my DM to.

Like, like, every year I'm probably switching a word up. I'd be like, yeah. That is fucking funny. Let me take you a dinner beautiful. Like, oh, my life, after I got a number and we went out, I unsent my shit. I swear to God, I went to my DM, bro, and I literally said, let me take you the dinner beautiful. And I said, let me unsend this shit. Oh, bro.

But she didn't follow me back on Instagram at the time. So it was like she didn't see my message. You know what I sent that shit fast though. But I came over for the Taco Tuesday. You know, I had seen her woo. You know, I feel like she was fucking me first day. She acting like she wasn't fucking me. I think she was fucking with me.

I wasn't not. I just think I didn't know much about you. Like, people thought I knew about you. I didn't. Yeah. So, I don't know. You were just nice. Like, you weren't weird.

You know? Like, most guys are just. Yeah. After the stream, I went up to. I just you, I went up to I said, let me take you the dinner. And I took it a dinner, got her some flowers and shit. And you know, I'm... Did it progress fast, the relationship?

Kind of, but not really, though. Like, it did, but it didn't. Like, it did to a certain extent. Like, we was fucking with each other, but it wasn't like... We're not on some shit like, you my boyfriend and girl. Like, we're not boyfriend and girlfriend. We were just, like, talking, filling each other out. And then as time went by, we just, like, started hanging out so much.

It was, we looked up, we was like... Was it content at first, kind of? Not even. Like, we hung out every day at a... point and like no one even knew. Yeah. But I took her to St. Lucia. Like we did stuff for, like we went to Disneyland on stream and we went on a trip,

but then it didn't even end up getting streamed because his equipment got lost. My shit got lost in St. Lucia, bro. Yeah. I flew to St. Lucia. I booked the B&B to B&B. The B&B was 8,000, bro, for like three days, like four days. I booked the cold-ass B&B because mine just saw our first trip out of town. So I'm like, I'm going to play crazy.

I'm for going to get a crazy B&B. You feel? You feel? You just set the vibe type shit. And then I got the B&B and all that to streaming in, my luggage end up getting lost. Like all my clothes, my clothes, my equipment, everything ended up getting lost. So I was out there wearing Lacoste, you know what I had to go to. They like behind like as far as like clothing wise, they ain't got no drip out there.

But it was like the malls is like convenience stores, you know what I'm going there. I'm wearing straight lacosts like old as shit, like little slippers, shirts, you feel me? But when did you start making money like real money streaming? Because you mentioned it was like $8,000. Probably like, hmm, I want to say, I think, I don't know, Loki. I mean, I guess I could say like streaming university. Stream University was my highest month, of course, you know what I'm saying? But I don't know.

Like, I started December last year, not last year, but December the year before. I probably started making real money. Probably like February, like February. And on YouTube prior, it was just kind of. Yeah, YouTube was cool. It was like 20 a month. You know what I'm saying? But I feel like with Twitch, it just, you get it, you get to, like, double your money.

You know what I'm saying? Because I'm streaming every day live. And then, like, let's say, it's like if I do in the morning I stream going to the gym, after that I go eat with her. After that, I go home and play the game. After that I go hoop. That's like five videos on my live channels going on. So that's five, one-hour videos that if they get 100K, that's 5K a day,

plus what I'm making on my stream from streaming all day. You know what I'm saying? So. You tried to do music before too, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I started off, I started off rapping and stuff. I was signed to, I was fucking with Cash Money, Wess and him. Like, I started rapping first, but then I end up going out with somebody who did YouTube.

So once that happened, it just transitioned me. I just, like, me, I'd just be going with the flow for real. Like, I don't really try to, like, fight against stuff. Like, I kind of let God, like, open doors for me, you know. Are you still going to do rap? I mean, because I listen to some of the stuff. It wasn't bad. Like, normally streamers or people.

who do other things and try to rap you're like what the fuck is this but that's because I started rapping so it's like that was always my first passion you feel me like I just I didn't start off doing YouTube I'd end up doing it just because it was brought to my even my front step but like not fucking music heavy I just gotta just get back into it for

I'm planning on it though I'm trying to just go crazy for I feel like you know with my daughter coming I'm just trying to like just go Yeah that's how do you what I'm curious with both you guys is how do you balance all the you have to make content all the time stream all the time and then obviously you're pregnant going to have a kid. Like, how do you balance everything?

I don't know. I mean, I don't stream anymore. Like, I was streaming when I felt like it. And then when I got pregnant, I just took a mental break because it wasn't even really like me being pregnant. The internet is just a lot. And I was like, yeah, I'm not about to let people like to serve my piece. So I just took a break.

And then it turned into just me not streaming. But streaming was never my main thing. Like, I did it just to do it. And I did it for like a consistent. Yeah, like a certain. an amount of months and then I made like good money from it but I've always done like beauty world was what I was doing like brand deals like makeup videos through Instagram maybe then yeah mostly TikTok but both just short form like short form content was my thing so long form

there's just a lot for me especially live like yeah yeah love you like streaming then I like it in the moment but then I don't like the clip yeah that's the only thing though you ruined it for me For sure. It make you fall out of love. Even now, like, it's true point where, like, I don't want to feel like I got to watch what I got to say. You know what I'm saying? Like, I can't even react to a video without it just, without it actually being in a reaction. Like, even a Sarah video, bro, I seen some shit on Twitter, bro.

They were talking about I called her a lady boy. You feel me? Yeah, she said that in person. I didn't say that. It was Johnny that said that because I never met her, you know what I'm saying? So it was us working out in the gym and she was flexing. I'm like, damn, I ain't no girls cat muscle like that. She probably just forgot that he said it.

No, but I think she was just trolling though. like she was like clip farming but she had um she had i think i was like i was like uh like there might no girl's cat muscle like then and johnny was like oh i was like he was like oh well it's kind of 50 50 we don't know and then and then she was like you know clip farm like but but then twitter just i mean the way they make the captions yeah it just fucks everything up you know I'm saying because it makes us want to pull it back from from putting out content you know what I'm saying because it just keeps getting miscar screw and it's like that shit could take a toll on our on art piece, you know what I'm saying? Nothing worth a lot of peace, you know what I'm saying?

So I don't mind stepping back entirely, but still you got to just keep that balance though, because at the end of the, it's like, you know, you got to make your money, bro. Yeah, and it seems like clipping is sort of the almost the most important thing now, just content general. If you're not getting clips, it's like. You ain't even existing, bro. People are making probably like a lot of money from that. No, hell yeah, I got clippers that and bought houses, paid off houses. Like my whole, like when I was sharking, I had like hella clippers, bro.

They was getting those. That was getting money, bro. It was paying. But it's like the negative ones that do better. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Like, I feel like half of the clippers, they don't even really care. They just do whatever's going to hit. Like, I get it.

But also, when you're the person they're doing it for, it really messes with your mental. Like, that made me completely changed. Like, I was getting comfortable streaming. And then it just kept getting ruined. So I was like, I'm just going to go back to what I was doing. Because, you know. But, I mean, at some point, I don't know how long you've been on the internet for, but like you kind of just say fuck it.

Yeah. I mean, I've been on the internet for a while, but it changed. Like when I started YouTube, it was completely different. It was like pranks and like no one took some seriously. Even just this generation in general, I feel like it's way more sensitive. Like if you look at movies back in the day and stuff people were saying, like you could not say that now. Yeah, it sucks. Yeah.

People are just so sensitive. So I mean, I would get back into streaming. It's just obviously now I'm pregnant. so it was like not a priority. And I still on the regular, like, had another, like, main job. Like, I have to film every day short form. So I was just like, yeah, I'm not going to force things. Yeah.

And that in itself is draining. Because to me, short form is harder because you have to edit more. Like, I have to edit, like, a 20-minute video down to 50-second meet, like, all these brand obligations. I was like, I'm just going to focus on that. So what's harder? Nine to five are streaming. Nine to five, bro.

Yeah. 9 to 5 is harder, bro. A 9 to 5. But I think it just takes like, it's what you're willing to deal with. I think the thing about the internet is, and you guys are going to understand it too, is it's not necessarily harder than a 9 to 5 because that takes such a toll on you. But the toll that it takes on social media people is it's a nonstop thing. Yeah, yeah, that's what I was going to say. It also depends what type of job you have because I feel like it's not harder, but it's like 50-50 to be honest.

It just depends, of course, what job you work in. Like, if you fucking, like, slaving, niggas, of course, that's way hard than streaming. But if you're working at McDonald's, bro, and you come into clock in and you do your thing, once you leave work, you don't take work with you home. You know what I'm saying? When we, like, we're here on off hours. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, if I stream and I end my stream, I have to continuously think about my business

because that's what's going to carry me into tomorrow. That's how I'm going to pay my bills next month. Like, this, like my money relies on me. Not, I just pull up and just boom, bam, let me. Let me fry some fries all day, whoop, and just go home. You feel what? Yeah, it's more about being a business owner than an employee. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

That's what people get misunderstood to. It's not just streaming. Like, streaming, I feel like streaming has like a easy name to it, but it's like, bro, we're entrepreneurs at the end of day, you know what I'm saying? We have to capitalize on top of streaming. You know what I'm saying? We got to, if we want to capitalize, we got to make merch. We got to do collars.

We got to hit people up. We got to fly. Like, when I was doing my content, I was flying out of town every day. You know what I was never home. My apartment was a storage unit, you know what I'm saying? And I literally was like out of town every three, four days because that's what I needed for my content. You know what I'm saying? I need to be in different spaces with different people.

So it's like that shit can get draining too. You know what I'm saying? I look up. I ain't sleep. I had a full day of sleep and I don't know how long. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Actually, I don't know.

I wouldn't even say like it's harder a nine to five. It depends. I think it's like. It's more time consuming. No, but like I was going to say I think that streaming and social media, like having a social media brand is more mentally draining because yeah, you could think of it. like, oh, well, at least you have it easy. Like, you're making all this money. But I'm like, do you know the mental, the mental that comes with you?

But that's the thing, like, someone's going to see that clip and be like, oh, you know, I go through wayward stuff. Exactly. But I understand what you're saying because I'm in it. Obviously, everyone else, if they're not in it, you don't really recognize that side of it. And there's both sides is difficulties. Yeah. But I understand what you're saying.

It's really the 24-7 also then the scrutiny, like you second-guessing yourself, am I like this? You saw some, a comment, whatever. There's a lot of more shit that comes in. Like you said, you do a job, you do a job. You clock in, you clock out. You're not necessarily going home. You can go on, smoke a blunt.

Niggott, chill, bro. Might worry about something your coworkers said to you, but that's kind of it. Yeah, like, if you wake up, man, fuck that. He might get fired tomorrow. You know what I'm saying? But like, if your manager on your ass and he on Bush, it's like, man, I got to deal with this, you know what I'm saying? My cameraman ain't getting angles.

I got to replace him. Now I got a temporary cameraman for the next three, four months. But it's like, you know, this is my business. I treat this as a business, bro. Yeah. So, yeah, it's just, it's either or, but everybody got the, you know what I'm saying? You got to pick your poison, but everybody got the, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I think it's just different.

It's just like you don't clock out. Like, you're always working 24-7. Like, when I worked regular jobs, it's like, I hated it, but then I'm like, I'm glad I can go home and not be bothered now. But it's like, you, that doesn't stop when you're like an entrepreneur. Yeah. Yeah, I guess it just depends on your outlook. Like, people, for sure, would debate on that. Yeah, that's why I ask.

Obviously, clip questions. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Now, as far as balancing your guys' relationship and being on the internet, how does that work? Because that seems to be, like, the most challenging thing. Yeah. I think that. I'm laughing because, honestly, like, it's terrible when people are saying things and trying to mess with you. But in the end, it just makes us, like, closer and stronger.

Yeah. So it's, like, kind of a blessing and a curse. Yeah. I feel like with us, we, like, we'd be having so much force hate, bro. It just, it makes you do nothing but tighten up, you know what I'm saying? It makes you do nothing. What do they hate about that you have a good relationship? I don't know, bro.

They hate that. I don't know, bro. I really couldn't tell you, bro. I swear. People just don't like seeing other people happy. They're going to find something to nitpick. Like, I think overall people are just like, oh, y'all move too fast, y'all this. But then you're with someone for 20 years and nothing's changed and you're miserable.

So I don't really care. I've never felt like timeline matters. I think I feel like when you know, you know. And I mean, yeah, everything, other people's stuff might not work out, but they project that and say like, oh, yeah, because mine didn't work out. Y'all are going to last. I'll give it like, come months. Yeah, they'll see us argue about washing clothes, bro.

I tell her like, hey, don't talk about washing clothes on there because they just nitpick everything. They're like, yeah, bro, they're not going to last. Bro, I see it. It'd be an old clip, bro. This is how forced it be. They'll see an old clip from 8. months ago and they'll be like they'll see like a clip and they'll be like oh that's not gonna last

I give it three months and I guess that was a year ago but people like no shit not to work like they like they like just talking down on people and it's like ultimately it just make us stronger you know because we have to have those hard conversations we got to go through all these comments and you know we got it's a mental toll that comes with it you know I'm saying it's like we can overcome that bro it's like can't unmasse with us you know what I'm saying now it's cool but like when it started it definitely makes you just it makes you closer yeah because it's like it tests you Is this really worth being with someone or not? And then in real life, if it is, you're going to overcome it.

And the end of the day, these people don't know you. That's why I genuinely, being pregnant made me not care about a lot of things. Yeah. Just like. No, people were saying we wasn't going to get engaged or nothing. Like, then we get engaged and they still hate, you know what I'm saying? It's like, I don't know what you're just going to get a pregnant dip or what? But that's what they wish, though.

Like, that's what they wish, though. You feel? Like, and I don't get it, bro. I don't know what they want. But it's like, I had to come to it like an understanding. like fuck what they want it's not what they want like at then they're gonna still gonna hate queen claren's been getting hate for five years bro they just got engaged like a week ago they're talking about now they're talking shit saying the wedding going to be in 80 years i'm like bro

they're never gonna be happy bro yeah you know what i'm saying it's like i mean yeah none of that matters people are just like i think people just project they're sitting into your mom's basement just yeah they be just projecting just typing stuff to type it like it's honestly funny when you think about it because i've never in my life even just not being on the internet when I worked a regular job when I was in school. Like I've never sat there and like commented, hey, about a stranger. Even like if you think about something that's different than having conversations like with your friends or.

Yeah, and that's different from going on a comment and like harassing somebody. We need to bring back shame because y'all are embarrassed. I agree. Yeah. I totally agree with that. No, fucks, fucks. Niggas don't be having no shame. The internet, I mean, it empowered everyone for that.

Like it just, to just that internet warrior should I'll say whatever I want because there's no repercussions. But yet often it comes from. from a place of they feel a certain way about their self or their circumstances, their relationship. That's why it doesn't bother me as much because I'm like, if you were truly happy with your life,

you wouldn't feel the need to do this. Like, you'd be too busy. You'd be too busy being happy to where, when would you have time to even be negative? Yeah, yeah. And I just feel like you shouldn't, like, I mean, anybody that put out negativity, I just say a lot about you, you know what I'm saying?

Like, I feel like if you was in a good space, you wouldn't need putting out that energy. And they're not going to say it when they see. The same people commenting are going to ask for a picture. I had niggas come up to me like, yo, bro, Sinko, I fuck with you heavy, bro. Can you unblock me in your chat? Like, why are you blocked in my chat? You know, oh, bro, when you was going through that one shit, I had said, man, hell no.

Get up on my face, bro. You ain't be like, these be the same niggas, though, bro. I'd be like, man, that's when you just know shit. Yeah, I get DMs all the time. People talk shit. Then I respond. They're like, oh, I love you, bro. I swear.

A nigger say some fucked up ass shit. I'll say, shut your bitch ass up. And then they're going to be like, oh, shit. I ain't know he's going to respond. I'm, bro, fuck with you. I was just playing. They just want to respond. Yeah, y'all niggas goofy, bro.

So has it gotten better or worse since you guys have, you know, got engaged? And it's like official official. I feel like. There's also a lot of love, though, too, to be fair. Because when I look, I mean, you know, you look at Instagram and all these things and people are engaging with it positively. No, for sure. I feel like Instagram is where we get the most love or, like, YouTube.

But, like, TikTok is like, TikTok is like, TikTok and Twitter is just automatic negative. I mean, I don't go on Twitter. I don't even have Twitter on my phone because I just feel like, I don't get paid on Twitter, so I don't care to be on there. And, yeah, people can stay more. So I just don't even do that to myself. But I don't know. I feel like my, like, supporters, my personal supporters, like, they're very positive.

It's the clip comments and the people that don't actually watch us and see, like, a 10-second clip. Yeah, when those go viral. Yeah. So I just had to realize that I'm like, yeah, I don't know. I think it's still, like, 50-50. But I'm learning to recognize, like, the love more than the hate. Yeah, me too. I just, I don't know.

Like, I feel like, I don't, I don't know. Like, we come from, like, a generation where, like, fatherhood isn't took in serious, you know what I'm saying? Like, a lot of niggas even stay with the person that get pregnant, you know what I'm saying? They don't even be there. They don't want to be a part of the kid's life. You know what I'm saying? I feel like, I don't know. It just says a lot about people's character because I feel like, I don't know.

I don't know how you can hate on us. So you feel me, like, you know, we came together. You know what I'm saying? Once she got pregnant, but we got a crib. You know what I'm saying? Got a crib. You know what I'm saying? Got engaged.

You know what I'm saying? We're doing shit that we at least trying to do shit the right way. You know what I'm saying? And we just happy, bro. We don't put out no negative energy. You know what I'm saying? We show love to everybody. You know what we speak and spoken to?

We don't cross no boundaries with people. We're chilling, bro. But none of that matters. People just hate to hate. Not for sure, for sure. But that's what I do like. I don't think it matters. Like people hate on Beyonce.

I always think about that. I'm like, she doesn't bother anybody. She doesn't even, she's not even seen. People just... Yeah, I mean, they're gonna hate no matter what. Yeah. Doesn't matter. All right, guys, quick in a road for the podcast.

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and get those two free gifts right now. Let's get back on this podcast. So you guys, and I want to ask you specifically, when did you know she was the one? Like, how did you know? How did I know she was the one? I don't know. I mean, like I said, already. Because it sounds like you had a track record.

You had some experience. I'm going to say the least. I'm a real, like, I'm a real lover boy, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, when I be single, I'll be on some whole ass shit, you feel me. I can admit that. But when I'm committed to somebody, I'm really committed, though. You know what I'm saying?

And that's one thing about me. It's like, I'm only single if I got to be single. Like, all right, if I bitch, you know me, bro, come on. I'm going to go crazy. I'm going to do my shit. Go make my money. But, like, if I really genuinely love somebody, like, I treat, I get him to world, bro, I put them before myself.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm a real big giver. Like, yo, like, I do shit for people. Like, I don't know. It's like, I'm like, I'll, I do so much shit just because your reaction making me feel like it's worth it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm that type of guy.

So I don't know. Like, my girl personally, I mean, I already had strong feelings about her. But probably when we went to Italy, that's why our thing was Italy themed, the baby shower. Yeah. You know, when we went to Italy, it was like, we really, we really like, vibes with each other, like, not just like any other trip or like any other time we just hanging out.

It was really like, it was really that. It's an unexplainable feeling I feel like, but it was fired, though. You know what I'm saying? That's when I really realized, like, damn this is why I want to be with. You know what I'm saying? We was going, we was on the mopeds and on the boat, just chilling just us, you know what I'm saying? I was like, I fuck with us being in our own world, you know what I'm saying?

Like I want to, I want to continue that. So that's kind of when I, um, just cut off on my holes, bro. What the hell? For real. That was such a crazy answer. For real, for real. I just cut off all the hose. I'm like, man, I'm, man, don't do that, man.

Come on, bro. That's honesty. Yeah, that's honesty. Like, whether he said or not, come on, man. Whether he said or not, everyone, that's what happens. You cut off. Yeah, people think I got pregnant on that trip, and that's not true. It was actually after that.

But I just feel like we just liked Italy. Yeah, Italy was just far. It was a vibe, bro. It was because before that we had went to Rome, we had went to a mafia. coast but before that we went to Rome before that we was in Paris for Fashion Week I love it way so it was far like we just had a whole like damn near

two, three weeks together you know what I'm saying? Just traveling so yeah and then that's all we did we just traveled all the time like all we did was travel went to Greece we'd be going everywhere for real for real yeah what about for you when did you know when you got off the house what did you know? I mean I was already like happy being single I feel like for girls things happen

when you're content with yourself like anytime I've been wanting a relationship or sad, like, that's when you attract what you shouldn't. Like, that's what that's when you attract the things you shouldn't. I feel like I was just at peace with myself. So I wasn't putting pressure on things. And when like we streamed and stuff a few times together, but off camera, we bonded way more. And that could have been opposite.

Like people stream together all the time. And then when the cameras go off, it's like awkward or, you know, because it's like, oh, it's strictly content. But I feel like we just had a lot of real conversations. and just yeah i don't know it's just like we had a lot of deep talks like really fast off camera and then i realized like i liked him more and more and even just situations we went through like personal situations like i had stuff going on or like family things or whatever like we bonded over that and i feel like he was really there for me and vice versa and that was around

the time no one even knew we were actually like with each other every day yeah so i think it just It's built up fast. Yeah. And it's like if you ain't talking to nobody, like for a minute we wasn't talking to nobody and we were just talking to each other. So it's like we kind of just, you know what I'm saying? You just know what I'm saying? It was like man.

At a point I was just doing the girl content just for the money, like all right, like, I told her like, you know what I'm saying, let me get my bag real quick, like, you know what I'm saying, whatever the case may be. But then I just, I got to a point where I was just like, man, I don't want to put you on the back burner, you know what I'm saying? Like you really being there for me, you know what I'm saying? And we really just vibe. And I don't want to have to like, I don't want to deny that.

And then, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't even want to push it away. You feel me? I was just like, you know what? I feel like if this is it, it is it. If it's not, it's not. You feel like, I'd rather just give it a try. You know what I'm saying?

And then we kind of just hit it off. And then we ain't left each other since we kind of met, to be honest. So obviously, I mean, clearly a good decision. Yeah. Yeah. Had you guys ever not considered? Like, was there any point in the relationship where you were like, oh, let's go our separate ways?

Was there ever any. I had a time. But it wasn't because I didn't like like her or love or anything. It was more so because of my future, like what I was building for myself, like as far as just with the short content, just trying to take advantage of what I had going at the time. It was like it was more so for that. But I don't know. Like, you know, the money is the root of all evil. So I kind of was, but I was also like going through a lot like spiritually like as far as just getting my relationship with God right.

And I don't know. Like it just pushed me towards her. You know what I'm saying? I just felt like money is always going to be there. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like, why am I really doing this? Yeah, yeah. It was more so like a, like, I don't know.

Like, I just felt like I didn't want to play with her. Like, I didn't want to play with her emotions when I know I really like her. It wasn't like, it was another female that I just met and vibes with like, no, I've really been liking her. So it was like, all right, nigga, like, you feel me? This is what I wanted. You feel me? So once we kind of just hung out so much and, you know, we kind of had those deep conversations, it was like, nah, like, I want to do this?

You know what? But it was just for money at the time. I was like, you know what? Do I? do I not, but we had a deep-ass combo and then it was just like, nah, this is what I want for sure. You know what I'm saying? I mean, yeah, I was the same. It was just around that time.

Like, we talked about it mutually, but I was just like, yeah, I'm probably not, like, I'm just letting you know. Like, there was no pressure. I even would tell him, like, I'm not the type of female that's about to give you an ultimatum or be like, you don't do this. By tomorrow, I'm gone. I was just like, I understand.

Yeah. But I probably will not be dealing with that. So, you know what I mean? She just drew a line in the sand, basically. Like, I just kind of sent my boundaries. Like, you ain't feeling to keep fucking with me. And then you fuck on all these girls, you know what I'm saying? Just pick either or.

But it's like, that's respectable. You feel me? At the end of the end of, it was up to me. You know what I'm saying? She ain't forced a nigga. I'm just like, I chose you, you know what I'm saying? I just sent my boundaries early. I feel like if you just set your boundaries early,

whatever's going to happen is going to happen. Yeah, for sure. And I was content with that. Like, yeah, I would have, like, we probably would have been sad to just not be together. But I was like, I understand. I'm not going to force anything. but I'm also not about to waste my time like I'm very strict on what I want

so now this is getting like deeper than just content yeah so it's like I also was like I probably wouldn't just do content with you just to do it either like I'm not about to fall into that you know the category of like your sharking yeah like I respect it but I'm good yeah that's the one thing too

with the shark and shit I went through a lot of that too And it was like, that shit, it's just like, you can't run away from it, bro. You know what I'm saying? But it's understandable. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like I understand it. But what's even crazier, like I was saying before, when I started YouTube and we were

in the same like YouTube group and everything, content was so different. Like, we were doing pranks. Like, I like you pranks or like stuff at the time that was trending. And now that's not a thing. So what people would try to do to validate it is like pull back old clips and try to act like that was real. And I'm like, that was clearly fake. Like it was scripted.

Yeah. But that's the, because that was how long ago? Like six years ago? Like six years ago? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But that's the difference. It's consumers and then there's creators, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, you can't even really be mad because like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, we made it look that way. You know what I mean? That goes for any content.

I had, I had a, had somewhere where my ex cut my hair, the shit went viral as as fuck, you know what I'm saying? Like, and they bashed her a long time for that. But it was like, we can't get mad. That's how we made it look. You know what I'm saying? We made it look like you cut my hair. Like, you feel me?

Yeah. Just how it is, bro. Yeah, at the time, I just never thought that would like come back to haunt me. I was like, this is so innocent. Yeah, but internet, bro, whatever you do, but that shit come back, bro. Well, now I know that. Of course. That's like the main thing that I think everyone should be aware.

If you want to get into content, just know whatever you put out there, we'll come back. No, for sure. I be seeing clips of myself. I ain't seen since I started YouTube. They get for real. Yeah. But it was like at the time it was just like innocent. funny. Yeah. And now I'm like, oh my God. Yeah, internet was so different back then. Yeah,

because you, bro, we used to film like five pranks a day, bro. Like, what was it? Uh, DeShay, we'd be like, me and DeShay get into it. It'd be like him and the stepdad. We'd jump to stepdad. Like, bro, YouTube was different, bro. And it was banging at the time. Niggas making $100K a month off that shit. YouTube was how streaming is now. Yeah. For sure. That was, yeah. Why do you think it's gone in that direction? Like, why it's Twitch? Yeah. I think because streaming is a lot. And people have this different connection to you. Like, they really feel like they know you because there's no cuts.

There's no edits. Like, they're literally just spending hours and hours and hours with you. Yeah. And I feel like people like realism. So even though, of course, a lot of people still put on a character. But it just, that's what created the whole pair of social fan bases. And I just think back then, like, yeah, you might believe like pranks and different stuff. But at the end of the day, like, it's edited.

Like, we're putting out what we want to put out. Yeah. So people can't. I don't know. I feel like it's just a different connection, like, to the person. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like everything has its run, bro.

You know what I'm saying? With streaming with YouTube, like, streaming is dying out. You know what I'm saying? Streaming. Hell yeah. You think streaming is dying out? Hell yeah. So, I don't know.

Streaming is like, it just became so oversaturated, you know what? I feel like, me personally, from a creator standpoint, I feel like once streaming diversity came and it fucked everything up. Because it gave, it just, it made the, it made the, numbers feel unreal. Like back then, niggas having 7,000, bro. When you had 7,000 like a year ago, bro, that's like equivalent to a nigga having 60,000 right now. But then how much of that is actually real? Because then we talk about this view

body shit. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That's why I say it's dying out now, you know, because back then it was like 7K was so much. Now it's like you got niggas averaging 12, 15,000, just chilling, picking Legos off the floor. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, but when Streamer University came, it broke that barrier because it was Yana, like Yana, it was like people like me, like my max was like, my maximum I ever had was like 15K, 16K with the stream university. I sparked that, had 40,000 the moment I sparked. India Love had 100,000.

She didn't even have Twitch before Stream University. Yeah. She had 100,000 on the stream, bro. So it's like, it kind of fucked the numbers up. Like now people don't know what looks good. Now it's like, damn, if I got 10,000, that's kind of ass. You know what I'm saying? Like that's how people started to look at streaming, you know what I'm saying?

Especially after. So it just, it just, it just made it unrealistic. It made streaming unrealistic. You know what I'm saying? It's starting to like, I feel like it's starting to burn out. But I feel like I feel like YouTube is going to be the way of like when my daughter come, I think I'm just transitioning to YouTube. Go back to YouTube.

Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, I've been talking to YouTube, though, so I definitely want to go back to you. But I'm not going to stop streaming though. I'm going to still be streaming occasionally. You know what I'm saying? It's like when it's planned, but I don't think it should be. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't.

don't like the toll is taken. You know what I'm saying? I don't like the direction is headed streaming wise. Well, also I feel like streaming is more popular, like took over because of clip. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think clip culture just amped up. But what I don't understand is like you could still get a clip from a YouTube video too. You can.

But they weren't doing it before. So I feel like, I don't know. It's just more, I don't know. I feel like just live streaming it. I feel like just live streamers are just in demand for clips. You know what I'm saying? You could clip a YouTube video, but like, you like live streamers

but you can go back and watch YouTube video and see what it really was versus like a live people are not that's why they clip so much of it aren't watching the actual live in real time they're going off of strictly so I mean that is just part of it but I overall just feel like it makes you connect

to the person you're watching more yeah because it's live yeah it's like I'm just on FaceTime with my friend like I know everything about them and a lot of you got live clip like their clips are actually like live clip channels you know what I'm saying like they're they're they're clipping only things are live, you know what I'm saying?

So it's more of those. So it's like if you're live, let's say you're alive, you'll probably get more clips. If we were live right now streaming this, then it would have just after, you know what I'm saying? Because there's so many live channels that I'm trying to get this shit out because it just came out right now. This video is already out.

It's like live or clip channel or not, they're going to come watch this shit. So you think it's the timing of it. Yeah, yeah. The timing makes it, that's why it's in demand so much. Like they got to hurt and put it out. So everybody's trying to put it out because they need to go viral because that's how they get paid. You know what I'm saying? You get paid off your views for TikTok. So you think you guys are going to transition to more just like family content on fucking

YouTube or why? Yeah, that's what I want to go to. I feel like, I feel like that's why I feel like, that's my calling, to be honest. Like, I feel like just the family content and just like just embracing my family, bro. You know what I'm saying? I feel like that's ultimately what God has built my platform to be. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know. I feel like it's going to be way, it's just better vibes, bro. You know what I'm saying? It's going to be way more wholesome and you get to do what you you get to being your kid's life you get to spoil your kid and you get paid for that's crazy yeah it's gonna be way far like people some a lot of people have jobs that that take them away from their child you know what I'm saying so it's like I feel like I'd be wrong

if I didn't direct my platform to taking care of my kid you know what I'm saying of course I'm going to exploit my child but like I can make money while being with my kid you know what I'm saying and spending time and create core memories where they're like going to Italy going to here going to here like we could just travel and this shit to pay our lives and and and it's and And ultimately I'm going to give you these channels any damn way. You know what I'm saying? I'm just building it up for you. Yeah.

Yeah. I know. It's so crazy how much scrutiny you for sure get for that. Yeah, yeah. I know. Because people are going to take that. It's like, you're like having a content big.

That's people's favorite. I don't get what they want us to do though. Like, do you not want the best for your child? You know what I'm saying? But also, no one's saying that we're not about to post when the baby pops out. Yeah, our baby's not getting posted for a while, bro. We're not.

I just think like we're in the content space. So eventually it's inevitable. Like, even people I've talked to that are very private and they're still in the content space, they're just like, yeah, at a certain point, it's just inevitable. Yeah, because what you're going to do when you're just taking your baby to the grove or some shit and a certain nigga take a picture of your shit? You know what I'm saying? It's like, take a picture of your kid.

Like, you just can't run away from it. But it's definitely not, like, a rush for it. I think it's just when it feels right. Yeah. And also, I don't know. I mean, I'm still going to do, like, my beauty stuff. But overall, like, yeah. Yeah.

But I want her to have a big platform as well, though. You know, why would I not want to put her in a position when she can't be making six figures a month? And she don't even know what, she can't even count just six. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, it's equivalent to her. Yeah, for sure. She doesn't want to do that when she figures out what she wants to do, then she doesn't have to.

Yeah, hell, ma'am. She can go be a lawyer. She can go do whatever, have a private life. Like, it's not forced. It's just at the end of the day, like, if we make a family channel, even if it's just us for a while, like, that money's going to hurt. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Is this what you thought your life's going to be like?

growing up. No, I never thought I would even be doing content like this long, honestly. I wanted to do so many other things. I was going to get into marketing. Like, if social media wasn't a factor, I 100% would be behind the scenes. Like on a marketing team or management team, something like that. Yeah. But, yeah, interesting how life plays out.

No, life take its course for sure. I ain't even think I was going to be a constant indicator like seven, eight years ago. I thought I was, I really thought I was going to be deader in jail, for real, for real. Like, you don't really, you don't really, because where are you from originally? I'm from, well, I'm from Watts, but I grew up in Compton. I moved to Compton like Fort Gras. It's neighboring city. It's like Hollywood and Burbank.

Like, they're next door to each other. But, yeah, I was always back and forth and shit. So I was over there. I grew up at low income, you know what I'm saying? Mom's making 10K a year. You know what I'm saying? So that ain't shit. That's like, what, $800 a month?

You feel me? So, yeah, I just, I don't know, I'm grateful, bro. That's why I don't take no, that's like, when my kid, it's like, man, I'm not taking that for granted, bro. Like the opportunity we have now to maximize our money, I'm going to do that shit all away, bro. You know what I'm saying? When my daughter turned 18, she can go wherever the fuck she want to go.

She already got mile high club, you know, all type of shit. We're trying to, you know, I'm trying to put her in it. We got trust, all type of shit getting set up for, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, I just want the best for my kid. I want to do what I wish my family would have done for me. But also, it's like we're in different positions, you know what I'm saying? Different time. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

You know, we got different opportunities. So I just want to take advantage of every opportunity I have because, like, I don't want to take it for granted, bro. The shame forever, bro. Yeah, that's a fact. For sure. What are your parentsing about what you guys are doing? They love it.

My mom loves her. Her mom. I went to Bible study with her dad-in-law today. We went to Bible study today. And then after that, we went to the farmers. I went to the farmer's market with him and her mom. You know, we got food, came back. We took a nap together.

Like, we live a really peaceful life, bro. I mean, I feel like we're fortunate. to have supportive families because I know a lot of people don't or their parents want to dictate what they do. Like my mom was always very, which I think I'm like this because of her, like she raised me to be very non-judgmental and she was already like a creative person. So I think it was kind of natural. But yeah, I think she loves it.

Yeah. And we got a real village behind our daughter. Like everybody loves her like just the thought of our daughter. Like everybody just wants to be a part of it. You know what I'm saying? a part of her life and always want to come together to see what can, like, they're always just trying to play crazy for a daughter. The birthday, I think her, the baby shower.

That was insane. But not even now on the one before her auntie, like, they're all coming over like two, two, two to three days prior. Her auntie's cutting flowers. She didn't even do flower work. She's cutting flower, doing flower work to decorate the live room. Like, they all like coming together making, you know what I'm saying, decorating the chairs, her friends coming over, decorating outside. You could tell like our daughter is really building a real village like as far as like our family's coming together.

You know what I'm saying? And it's like, I don't know. I embrace that, bro. I'm, I'm half Mexican. So she's trinny. So it's like it's just the culture. Yeah, I feel like my family though is just a lot of independent women. And everyone has like their own stuff going on.

So it just was natural for me. But I mean, it's probably different if you come from like a family where people have. like more serious, not to say it's on serious, but you know what I mean? Like they want you to be a doctor. They want you to be like everyone in my family, all the women have pretty creative jobs and they're all like doing well. So I think it just, they understand. Yeah. And then my family is very like they always try to accommodate, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like it mix as well. Like they're independent, but we always like extend our hand out. Like just so you may not need our help, but if you need it, we're here. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like

that's good especially like, you know, going hand in hand and hand. with somebody that's independent because it's like we're not forcing to help upon you but like if you need help we're here you know what I'm saying so that's kind of how like how our family is you know just our dynamic it's a beautiful thing to see though because everybody just wants to be close everybody wants to be better you know what I'm saying everybody wants to hang out you know so I found you would you would you when your daughters of age would you suggest her to do content creation I mean obviously we don't know what it looks like now yeah I wouldn't suggest it I genuinely would just see what she's into.

Yeah, I see what she and do. I would encourage it. Me personally, I would encourage it. Really? I would know. I think it's different for women, though. Like, I would have a talk with her because I would want her to know, like, what that comes with. If she hasn't already learned. Or she'll be on some, like, comments disabled shit, you feel me?

Like, it just, at that point, you just posted videos. But, like, I think it'll be fun. Because people tell you all the time. Like, if I even express a little bit of how I'm feeling about hate or something, I'm like, just turn off the comments. But engagement, brand- But that's different for us, like, for us. For her as a kid, it's like, but Northwest doesn't have her comments on.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I noticed that with her TikTok, she has no. The only time you could probably comment on the video with her in is when she's when her mom's TikTok. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't say she's a content creator. She's just a kid. No, but I'm just saying.

But I'm just saying as far as that's how they control her. You know what I'm saying? The comments and stuff like. Well, yeah, of course. If she wanted to have social media around that age, of course it would be. Yeah, but she does content though. Like we would be running it in the comments. Yeah.

But going into that as a job is a different thing. I also feel like I don't even know where the world is going to be at that point. No, for sure, for sure. There's probably going to be some whole other field going on. But I want her to be bigger than that, though. Like, I want her to be on some, like, cover of shit, you know what I'm saying? Not just doing YouTube videos, but I feel like the cover of certain, like, things, like, modeling and stuff. I don't know.

I'm just very, like, whatever you want to do. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. I don't have, like, pressure on that. But also, I also wouldn't pressure her to go to college either. I feel like my mom didn't pressure me to do that. So I think it's just we'll learn what she's into, you know. I don't know. I just, well, yeah, of course, whatever she wants to do, like, of course.

But I don't know. I mean, I think it'd be fun. It'd be cute, you know what I'm saying? Her doing get ready with me, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like that's the, when I say certain things, it comes from, like, the heart. Like, it don't be because you're going to make some money. You already rich as fuck right now.

You know what I'm saying? But it's like, I know you may, you see your mama doing videos and things. You might want to do some makeup when you, you six, eight years old, you want to do your makeup. Like, you know, you could do a little YouTube and make a bag off that shit. You know what I'm saying? It's like, when you go to prime, you can do whatever you want to do. Like, shit like that, like, that shit all going to your savings, bro.

It's like, I know she'll thank me when she gets older. Question is you're going to let her do your makeup. You definitely would. You definitely would. You mean, whatever she's on, bro. You definitely would. Yeah. You would like, don't with that on the internet.

No, he would. I would. I would let my daughter do whatever, bro. I ain't going to lie. Like, I'm excited, bro. I'm really so excited. It'd be to a point where I damn her, I damn it don't even feel like doing nothing until she gets here. Like, I'd be feeling like that.

Like I'd be like, bro, I just want my daughter. I'd be just thinking about nothing but my daughter, bro. Did you want a son originally? Like a year ago, if you asked me, hell, yeah. Like, I was fucking out here with all these holes. I'm like, man, hell, no. But it's like, it was literally a clip that went viral of me saying, I don't want a daughter.

I don't want a daughter. Because I was at the club and these holes fucking, I want to suck you. They were saying some crazy shit, bro. Wait, you got to, you got a still see yourself. Huh? No, he's funny. No, no, no, no, hear me, hear me, hear me, hear me. No, that's what they were saying.

So it's like, man, I don't want a daughter. Like, oh, man, but it's like, when you get into, when you're in that position, when you're like having a daughter, you're looking at this shit way different. You know, like, back then I'm like, man, I don't want a daughter. But like, now it's like, it ain't even about that. It's more so I'm going to raise my daughter time I didn't be like that. You know what I'm saying? Now my main goal is like, I want to build my daughter up to be the best woman she could be,

the best independent woman, hardworking woman, she could be and change that stereotype. I want my daughter to be a good wife one day, a great wife, you know what I'm saying? Of course, like, that's always the goal. But, you know, you look at shit different. Like, you know what I'm saying? You know, you're a nigga young, bro, but ultimately, I wanted a girl that at a general I wanted a girl. I feel like a girl would change how I looked at life.

I feel like it would just make me a way better man, you know what I'm saying? Like, if I'm truly seeing the play that guy that's sitting out for me, it's like, the journey that he's sitting out for me, it's like, man, I was going to have a daughter. Like, I knew I was going to have a daughter. I was like, mom, I'm going to have a daughter. I was going to make me look at life different. I know I'm a lover way different And I've always been like a big advocate for women

You know what I'm saying? Even on a shark and shit, bro I was, bro, making sure women got home every time safely I remember I threw a Cinco de Mile She came to that shit I remember I did a Cinco de Mile party Random girl, bro

She was like four in the morning We into shit Because I had to kick everybody out She couldn't have a ride I paid an Uber Her was like $300 bro She lived in like Bakersfield or some shit And we're like

Who was that? I think we were in like Malibu or something But like I paid her first I didn't know the girl. I just paid for Uber and her Uber. And it was in the top of the hill. I waited like 20 minutes, three canceled Uber's. Like, I really like, I love women, but it's because I grew up around women.

My mom was a single mom. You know what I'm saying? My grandpa was, you know, he was a father of five girls and one boy. You know what I'm saying? So even my girl, I treated the best I could. I come from a sensitive background with my family. Like, I understand women. I know how they think.

Like, I just love women. I really do. Like, I really love them genuinely. Like, I feel like, like, especially great women, like, goodhearted women, it's like, bro, it's like, they're gyms, bro. You know what I'm saying? Rare. Yeah, they're really gems, bro. And, like, when you have a, like, seeing my mama be the mom and dad, it's like, you gain a different type of respect for women.

You know what I'm saying? Like, my mom really put everything on the line, working jobs, getting fired. Like, she got fired because I was getting in trouble in school every day. Like, I watched, I witnessed my mama cry because she lost her dream job because of me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't graduate in eighth grade. I couldn't walk the stage. I had great grades,

but I couldn't walk the stage because I was fighting. You know what I'm saying? And my mom had to leave her job and they kicked out at the nursing program. You know what I'm saying? I feel like I personally, like, I used to walk around with that.

Like, damn, like, I set my mama back. You know what I'm saying? Because now she's working at a pizza spot. Now she's working at a pizza spot and this Chinese spot, whatever the case is. I'm like, damn, bro, I'm the reason my mom failed or whatever the case may be.

But that's why I was like, I ultimately moved my mom out of the hood. I got her a crib and fucking, you know what I'm saying? The hills. Like, that was my main part. I didn't buy a car. I didn't buy myself a house.

I didn't buy no jury until I got on my house. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just, it just wouldn't feel right. You know what I'm saying? So you grew without a father, though? Kind of. Like, my dad was like, he was just in the streets heavily. You know what I'm saying?

He was heavily in the streets. And as I got older, I understood my dad because, you know, when I'm young, I'm like, damn, my dad not here. He don't come to my games. But I'm thinking this is my game. But this really looters part bloods. This really, this part, this part. It's deeper than just

This is my game at the park Like now you come up here You might lose your life This might be the last shit you go to You know what I'm saying So I kind of understood that as I got older And he was just in and out of prison And just you know what I'm saying

And it was just It was a danger for him to be around this You know what I'm saying? Like I got my dad got shot in it He got skinted in his head Shot in his shoulder with me in a car Like I'm in the passenger seat as a baby Like he got shot with me

You know what I'm saying So it was just a different type of lifestyle To be honest But you know I just try to try to to like forget about that and forgive and you know accept you know his past and stuff because ultimately it like as I got older it helped me though I got them to a lot of street shit like you know what I'm saying I used to get jumped from who my dad was you know what I'm saying like it was a lot

it was good and bad bro but ultimately I love my dad bro I love him you know I know if anything going wrong my dad's he'll die for me you know what I'm saying he'll die in an instant he'll kill for me an instant you know what I'm saying so it's just one of those like you got to just you know everybody life's not perfect but everybody makes mistakes and I understand you know I understand stood, especially being a father myself, like now, it's like, we all, this is our first time, you know what I'm saying? It was my, my dad had me at 21, you know what I'm saying? So I couldn't imagine being heavily indoors in the streets and having a kid three years ago,

you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I forget my dad and I just try to move past it and I just try to at least just rebuild and move better and moving forward, you know what I'm saying? That's kind of like my main focus with him, you know what I'm saying? But I love my pops, man. I know that nigga tried. I know he tried. And, you know, some people don't have the best mindsets.

You know what I'm saying? My dad didn't grow up without, he grew up without his dad. You know what I'm saying? His dad was out of town all the time. Like, you know, he was doing his own thing. His mom passed away at an early age, you know what I'm saying? So he was raised by our granny. You know what I'm saying?

Our granny was a thug. My granny was shooting at people, all type of shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we just come from a hard background, bro. Like my uncles, all my uncles in jail, you know what I'm saying? In jail for murder. You feel me? My only uncle that's out is paralyzed.

You know what I'm saying? He got shot by his boyfriend at 16. You know what I'm saying? So my dad was game banging on like 12. You feel me? How does you not get involved in that? Shit, God, bro. Honestly, I had my moments.

Like, I had my moments. I feel like it just followed me wherever, though. Like, it always followed me. Like, when I was going to school, I used to go to 150th elementary. I was getting jumped by certain niggas that was from motherhoods that hated my dad, hated my uncle,

hated my family. You know what I'm saying? Because that's just what we were tied to. But we end up moving to Compton. Then I'm living these, apartments with these crips and then me hanging out with these niggas. The other niggas ain't like, the niggas that was beefing with them niggas ain't like me because I'm hanging with these niggas.

So I'm getting jump with these niggas. So it was one of those things you got to kind of just like, I don't know. Like it's hard, bro. It's hard, bro. Like, L.A. is like you don't even have to be part of a hood to get killed, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like you could just be with the wrong person. You could be with your friend you grew up with since fifth grade, bro.

And you could die with him. You know what I'm saying? So it's one of those you just got to try to just maneuver right, bro. You know what I'm saying? And I got a lot of family that's overly high rank. So it's like, if I got a problem, I just go to them about certain shit, you know, but I try to just, you know, change the narrative and change my life, you from me. I don't really try to be involved in that shit.

But it's following a nigga wherever I go, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, whatever. Are you far removed from it now? Kind of. I try. I try. I don't know. It just follows you, bro.

It's in you, bro. It's like, it's really like. Well, it's family. Yeah, it's like, it's not even like, I don't even push that shit. Like I don't be pushing it every day, but it's like, man, this is my family, bro. Like, my dad might have did something to little boo-boo, little uncle that he loves so much, you know what I'm saying? So when he see me, he's trying to shoot at me. You know what I'm saying?

He might have shot me. So now when I see you not, now it's fuck your old hood because y'all just try to kill me. You know what I'm saying? So it's like you just get caught up in it, bro. Like you get caught up in it, bro, without even trying, bro. You know what I'm saying? It's hard, bro. It's hard, right?

I can't lie. So you just got to move away. Yeah, yeah. You just got to move away and just push different energy and just hope you're good. To be honest, you got to just move correct. You know what I'm saying? I try to move correct. Yeah.

That's the best I could do. Are you from Trinidad, like actually born there? No, but my mom's like full family is born and raised. Yeah. But no, I'm not. You're from L.A. then? No, I'm from Atlanta. Like, I grew up there.

And, yeah. But my family, like, my mom's parents were both born and raised in my mom was born in New York, but just like background. You like L.A.? I do. I didn't think I was going to stay here. I was going to move overseas, honestly. Like Europe?

Yeah. Like if I wasn't living in L.A., I don't think there's anywhere, or I'll say California as a whole, I don't think there's anywhere in America that I have had the desire to move to, but now thinking, like, family-wise, my perspectives change because there's places I feel like that are better for families or, like to build. Sure.

But yeah, I don't know. I think I like LA because I'm comfortable here. Yeah. I'm used to it. Like, I've spent all my adult life here. So it's all I know. But yeah, I don't know. I would be open to movie.

Where did you want to live in Europe? I wanted to live in Paris or London. But then I was debating because I'm like, for me to really live in Paris, I would want to know French. Like I don't want to live there as an American and they're like this stupid American. Like they all speak English though.

Yeah, they do. but I feel like when you know the language is just better. So I was going to move to London and then just try to go back and forth and like learn French while I was there. That was like my plan, but. Change now, huh?

Yeah, and that's pregnant, nigga. You got her. You got her. We got her. But I don't know, I just love overseas. People are just so different. Yeah, way different. Culture-wise, I just appreciate it way more. Yeah.

I guess it depends where in the U.S. Some places are just more cold. Yeah, it just depends for sure. But, yeah, I mean, I would maybe, like, I don't know. I feel like when we're older can move overseas. Yeah, I'm with it. I'm with that. Like, I don't mind, like, when I'm like 40 or some shit, like, move to Italy.

You know what I'm saying? I love Italy. Yeah, I love Italy. No, but I'm trying to move on 40. I ain't trying to move on 60. Yeah. I don't want to be able to not get on a jet ski. Like, I don't want to be able to move around.

If I'm on a fucking jet ski. Yeah, I want to be fucking 60. Or like to have a house, like somewhere, like have a house from the South of France, go spend, like, certain seasons there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I feel like that would definitely still be. Yeah, I want to be on some shit like that with my, like, my kid, like, just having different properties, different spots, different places, you know what I'm saying?

Like, I'm buying a crib, probably like in Texas. So I'm probably like, end of this year. Just buy a house out there, have a property out there. Where do you think all this, like, where does this all go? Just more streaming, more YouTube? Like, what other business? Like, the angle? Yeah.

I mean, I don't think either. of us are planning for this to be forever. I think it's just like utilizing it right now. Because I do genuinely enjoy making content like, like even just me talking to like a girl community and it's natural for me. But I don't see myself doing that forever because it comes with a lot. And I think I'm genuinely meant to live like a private life on a farm somewhere. I agree with that. Yeah. So I think like my end goal is just to be making money in businesses like investment. So what sort of business is kind of what I'm asking. Like, you want to build from this.

Really, I'm trying to just get my real estate portfolio up, to be honest. I've been messing with, I'm on board for a lot of tech companies, like two or three tech companies. You know, you know tech companies. When they sell, they go crazy. You know, equity in them. You know, profit share percentages and stuff. Got Airbnb.

I got seven Airbnbs out here in LA. So just trying to just, I don't know. I'm really just trying to, I don't know, to be honest. I mean, content creation-wise, I mean, I probably got a good, like, three years in me to be real like really depending on what my daughter like that's what I'm like I'm gonna encourage my daughter but if my daughter don't want to do it I mean that would be the end for us to be honest like I don't really care about it I'm more so about just building the family and as long as I'm getting money if I'm making content creation money without doing content I'll do it

without the content like I would do it for fun yeah like yeah if I'm doing it for fun just for the love of my fans but like personally like the drama it comes with I'd rather just be rich off camera bro like it's not that deep to me I mean, for me, I don't want to just get into, like, I don't have a set answer because I've, I've thought about like, oh, having, not fitness, but like Pilates Studio, like different things. Yeah. So I don't know yet, but eventually just like opening different businesses up. Yeah. And then in addition, like investing in businesses I like, like really just thing where right now it's kind of just like you're making so much money off of this.

It's like, be smart with it. Yeah, definitely. I save all my money, but I save. I'm going to open up a barbershop and a restaurant this year In L.A.? Yeah, I'm opening a two barbershops Compton's going to fund the mayor

I've been talking to the mayor they're going to fund the barbershop in Compton I'm going to do like Sundays like certain days of course I'm going to have like certain days where 12 and under you're free for eight hours you know what I'm saying

for the whole day you know what I'm saying because my homie he cuts hair I'm going to make him like the manager of my barbershop and hopefully he can you know what I'm saying franchise his own barbershop you know what I'm saying and create a lane for himself

you know but I want to, yeah, open barbershops and stuff. I just want to do stuff for the community, bro. Like, that's really where my mind, my mind, like, been at. Like, I just really want to do shit for the community. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm trying to do some shit with St. Bernardo in Compton, get some water slides.

I got Hellstorm on board. They're going to come to do, like, care packages, drop hell of shit off for the kids, you know, face painting and all that. I just really want to pour into my community. I think that's, that's, like, investment-wise, that's really what I want to focus on. like just building shit in my community, you know what I'm saying? And just touching the people because, you know, they, they, you never, like, people

don't see themselves in, and they, what is that, it's a quote, bro. It's like, I don't know, but you just, you just can't see yourself in rooms you don't see people like yourself in, you know what I'm saying? Like, I couldn't imagine, like, people probably before Obama, black people probably think they couldn't be president, you know what I'm saying, until they seen Obama, like, damn, like, this shit possible, you know what I'm saying? So that's, that's kind of what I want to do. I just want to kind of show them like, it's possible.

and just be included in the community instead of just sending money to them or building the building this, building that, like not touching the community, going down there, you know what I'm saying, and giving them streaming phones or, you know what I'm saying, whatever that case may be to kind of show y'all like, man, it's shit possible. Because when I was in Compton and I'm looking at a popcorn ceiling, I'm like, man, I'm going to die here. Like I literally had a lot of nights where I was like, I'm going to die in this, I'm dying this city, bro.

You know what I'm saying? And then God just move mountains and change my life. It's like, damn, like, success is really real, bro. Like, every time I talk to kids, like, I speak about. go to different passion now, like, damn, like, y'all really can be rich, bro. Like, you don't understand how serious life is until you're 20. Like, you're, like, out of high school. You know what I'm saying?

It's like, I tell every kid, if you want to be a doctor and you want 180 a year, like, you can literally be a doctor. You just got to really be in school. Like, just stay in school. Like, a lot of us say we want things and don't put into work for it. Oh, I want to be a doctor. And then, oh, I go to school for two years and then this shit, oh, it's too much work and I'll just drop out.

You know, but like, nah, if you really want to be something, you just got to commit to it, bro. You know, none's going to be easy, bro. You're going to have to commit to it now or later. So you might as well do it now while you young. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, obviously you learn this through going through it yourself.

Why do you think it's, for most people, it's hard for them to see it? Just because you just don't believe in it, bro. You don't think this shit real, bro. I remember when I first started doing YouTube niggas showing me they make 20K on, I'm like, man, ain't no way you making 20K a month. That's fake. Well, I think with social media, it's just now it's so easy to compare. So people, the other people doing better, when they might not even really be doing

better. And then they feel like they're failing or they get discouraged. Even like I have friends, like they have other jobs, but they might want to get into content and they get discouraged because they're like, it's not getting views. It's not. And I'm like, you just need to keep posting. Like stop caring about views. Like, I didn't always have good engagement and I didn't care. The brands that saw it saw that, like, benefited me. And then it's just, it builds when it's meant to happen. But I feel like it's so easy to compare yourself in the same age. So then it discourages you. easy and then people are just like, I don't want to do all this work.

Yeah. And you go. Well, that also happens with everything on the, because of the end, like relationships, you know, this life isn't better than my life. It's just patience and, yeah, inconsistency. Yeah. Pasty, consistency. I've gotten discouraged from stuff before too, but if I would have, if I wouldn't have kept

going, like, I wouldn't have gone to the point I'm at now where I can comfortably, like, do what I want to do and make money from it. And I feel like that's why God put us through a lot of things because I feel like, and we were just talking about this in Bible study today too, but It was just like, God uses us as testimonies, you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like me, like, I had a hit where five months ago I was having 400 views, you know what I'm saying? But in my, let's say there was 400 people in my chat are looking at me like, damn, this

thing I got 400, like, damn, like, da-da-da-da, his life is bad, whatever the case may be. Then I'm telling him like, man, we're good, man. I got God on my side, we good, we good, we good. And then five months later, my shit go right back up. It's like, damn, like, I feel like God is really real, bro. Like, if you just stay consistent, bro, and you put in the word, you, you're and you center God in the middle of whatever you got going and you keep having faith in him, bro.

He's going to use you as a testimony, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like you're never going to be down forever. You know, everything is temporary, bro. Everybody has their moments. You're going to have your moments where you up. You're going to have your moments where you're up. You're going to have your moments where you're going to be

the book of Job, like where God was speaking highly of Job. Like, yeah, like Job, he's a faithful servant. You know what I'm saying? He loved me. He had never speak down on me. And then the devil was like, all right, let me do this to him. He did some foul shit to him, like took his kids away, took everything, everything he wants love, like his kids, all type of stuff, you feel me? And he was like, watch how he turned his back on you, you know what I'm saying?

And ultimately, Job just stayed faithful. You know, he stayed with God, bro, and then God gave him everything he wanted. You know what I'm saying? He gave him everything he wanted in the end, you feel me? So it's like, you got to just stay loyal and stay consistent, you know what I'm saying, with God in that relationship and putting him in the middle. You know what I'm saying? Because sometimes what God is sending to test you, God, like the devil is sending to destroy you. You know what I'm saying?

It's like, it's just how you look at it, bro. You know what I'm saying? Everything could be sent to destroy your, everything could be sent to test you. You know what I'm saying? So it's just your outlook on your situation and the mindset you continue to have moving forward with it. You know what I'm saying? Like, whenever I have anything bad my way, it's like, man, God trying to teach me something. And I look at it like, that's my daily goal every day.

It's like, what is God trying to teach me? You feel me? Whatever this is, like, even my best friend, my best friend died, you know what I'm saying? The hood. You know what I'm like, damn, what God trying to teach me? But ultimately, that's what made me move out of Compton. And me moving out of Compton is what kept me alive to keep working every day, you know what I'm saying? To ultimately build this life that I have now today, you know what I'm saying?

So it's just God, bro, honestly. It's God and hard work. Yeah, everything is a test, that's for sure. Yeah, hell yeah. So, because I was, I mean, I was kind of trying to ask you really how you actually got out of it. That's how you got out of it? Out of like. Like, when you're like, okay, I'm going to move out of here.

Yeah, well, my best friend died, I moved because I just had it. I literally told him I feel like I was going to die next. Like my uncle, his name Tatei, he parked in my spot. So when Don died, I didn't go home that night. And then my uncle parked in my spot. It's so crazy. My uncle parked in my spot. He's like my age.

He's probably like three years older to me, four years older than me. And then he parked my spot. And then he was putting his son in a car. He was putting his son in a car. And then a nigga pulled up and in a parking lot, came in the parking lot and shot him. He was parking in my parking spot. They came and shot him in his head. But he ended up surviving, but they shot him, though.

You feel me? So when that shit happened, it was like, I can't go back home. You're shot in the head and survived? Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. Oh, shit. And it was just like, I can't go home after that. Like, I'm just like, I'm not going to go home. Because for you, you think this is my, this is supposed to me.

You know what I mean? Because I felt that. Like, I felt that internally. When he died, because we was like getting money, we got jury and shit. He ended up getting staffed for his jury. He got stabbed one time in the heart. You know what I'm saying? So when that happened, I was like, yeah, they for sure going to come for me.

You know what I'm saying? So I didn't end up coming home then night. I ended up sleeping on the couch at my ex's house with I was dealing with at the time. But when I got that call that he got shot, I was like, okay, I'm going to sleep on his couch for two, three months. I was applying for hell of apartments. I was applying for every apartment. I didn't even know where North Hollywood was, nothing. I was just applying for every apartment.

And then his funeral was like a month later. My best friend's funeral was a month later, like two months later. And then I went to his funeral. I didn't have no clothes. I went in the shit I had, like sleeping on that couch. Like, you know, the clothes I had in rotation. But at his service, like, as they were singing the songs, I had his service, I got a call from the lady. Mind you, to even get in that building, I was putting my EED bank statements together.

Like my bank statements, my auntie bank statements, my mom's bank statements, because ultimately you got $1,500 every two weeks, but you have to make two, three times the rent. You know what I'm saying? So all of ours put together, all of us being on the lease, it made it. 6K a month, you know what I'm saying, from EDD. And then she called me and I stepped out the service and I got accepted that at his funeral. You know what I'm saying? That's why I'd be like looking at like, man, God is so powerful, you know what I'm saying?

Because like I got accepted for an apartment like, you know what I'm saying? Like at his funeral, you know what I'm saying? And I moved in without even seeing an apartment, I moved in, his little brother, my best friends, like that I'm all close with now. We're all successful now. they all use my house as a safe haven. You know what I'm saying? Like they all came to my house with no furniture.

I got furniture off wayfares, $600, a little-ass couch, you know what I'm saying? Counts like this, I'm paying $800 for them. We just all thugging on the couch, you know what I'm saying? And I feel like it ultimately saved our life. And it brought us way closer because at the time when my best friend died, we were all separated. And now it's like, I don't know who I would be hanging out with now. You know what I'm saying? Like these are my core friends.

So. Wow. That's a fucking story. Yeah, bro. And then it's like. Holy shit. Yeah, bro, now it's like, man, now I have the crib always prayed for, you know what I'm saying? So it's God, bro. But I didn't been famous with $70 in my pocket, you know what I'm saying?

Like I hadn't had it and fell off so many times, you know what I'm saying? Like when me and the girl broke up, my views were low. So how was I going to pay this overhead I created for myself with this person? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I just ultimately look at it like, it's just God, bro. Like, it's just God, bro. I couldn't tell nobody how I made it except God, bro.

But yeah That shit crazy though For real for real That's a crazy Fucking story No for real It was crazy When I got the car

I swear I stepped out And I'm crying Like I'm crying my brain The timing is nuts Yeah And she literally like You got it And I start breaking down

Like damn bro Like Because it's like damn Like I'm from low income housing Bro Like to have my own apartment

It's crazy And then to like Then also it was like Damn Like I wish He was here You know what I'm saying Because if I would have

This apartment When he was here he'll still be here. But this makes sense why you are so invested in wanting to go and do good to the community and good for the community. Because, like, man, it's a lot of people like us, bro. You know what I'm saying? That just feel like, you know, like even any nigga I tell up, I got D.D.

Osama and, like, they'll tell you, bro, when they first got some money, my first thing, anybody I ever see any young nigga with money, I always say, get an apartment. You feel me? Like, it's no good of having all that money and you're still in the hood, bro. You know what? Because my homie, he was up $300,000 and shoebox in them same apartments and they killed. them the same ones that we grew up with end up killing them yeah you know what I'm saying so it just yeah just get out the hood bro like get out the hood protect the brand protect yourself you know what's

I'm saying like do what's best for you so you can provide for others you know I'm saying don't fall into the stigma of like man I got to take care of everybody before me like nah because if you don't take care of yourself you can't take care of nobody and if you can't take care of nobody your family's fucked you know I'm saying yeah so I had to learn that for a while I had to get myself right I'm proud of you man no thank you that's a fucking great story nah but I didn't know that. Yeah, hell yeah. But that's why I take life so serious, you know what I'm saying?

I take my relationships with my friends so serious. I take relationship with my girls serious. I take the friendships. Like, every time I see you, I've never seen you and not say what's up. Yeah, every single time. You go wherever I am in the gym and say hello. Yeah, every single time. Because I value people.

Like, it made me value people way more. It just makes you live with a different type of like just mindset and intention. I'm way more. I have way more, I'm way more purposeful, if that makes sense. Like, I'm way more. And it sounds like appreciative for what you do have. Yeah, yeah, hell yeah, bro, because we didn't have shit, bro. My mama, I remember my mom didn't have shit, but mama used to wear $1 sounds from Old Navy,

and she used to cry because of bliss is on her feet, but we have J's on her feet, you know what I'm saying? And I had to rub my mom. You know what I'm saying? I witnessed my dad cheat on my mom, you know what I'm saying? I witnessed her be heartbroken and cry. So it's like when it comes to my girl, it's like, man, I would never do her any type of way. You know what I'm saying? I would overly like make sure she's straight, you know, her whole pregnancy, my main goal is like,

to make sure that you have a great pregnancy, you know what I'm saying? And you don't got to worry for nothing. Whatever you ask for, I can provide that for you, you know what I'm saying? Whether it's financially or like physically or it's emotionally, you know what I'm saying? I just try to be there for everybody, you know what I'm saying? Because I know how I feel is for nobody to be there for me emotionally, you know what I'm saying? So I'll be trying to just be a good person for real and just hoping God see that and, you know, and just reward me. You know what I'm saying?

I noticed that about you even in our first interactions. Like, this is just a good person. Yeah, thanks. Which is rare, especially in this space, social media. Yeah, and that's why I take so much pride in being a good person because it's not that many in this space. And that's why I'm like, I'm not from this space. I didn't start off in this space.

Like, that's what I'm like, I just want to make being real cool again. Like, I feel like it's like in this day and age brand. It's so many shit I don't really speak on like where niggas be doing weird shit. But it'd be like, it's just one of those situations where you're just like, man, you got to stay real. You can't let, like sometimes in this space, this shit can change you into a different person. You know what I'm saying? And it's hard to be the same person every day, day in, day out,

throughout different situations, you know what I'm saying? I feel like I try to take pride in that because I got my little bros that look up to me. I got kids that look up to me that want to be in this space. And I want to show them like, you don't got to change, you know what I'm saying? You don't have to be fucked up because the niggas fucked up to you. You know what I'm saying? You could just take it on a chin and just wish them well, bro. You know what I'm saying?

Forgive me and forgive and just move forward. And ultimately, you know that God is going to bless you because he see how you carry your situation. He knows your heart. He knows your intention. attention is like that's ultimately what you gotta do this shit for you can't do it for another nigga recognition or somebody to say oh yeah good job like no i'm doing this shit because of me you know what i'm saying and the people that look up to me you feel me so yeah yeah damn yeah you really bro you know you this wine got me talking about you really hit that like

no it's i love i love to hear it i love it's like you're really an example of it yeah it's not just words obviously because what you say you're not just telling fucking fake stories yeah it's your real life. For sure. So what you have is just an example of it. It makes sense why you have the success you have. Absolutely. And that's why it's like, man, with our daughter, bro,

I just want to do the best I can, bro. I just want to be a great father. Thank you, bro. Absolutely. Thank you. Obviously, she believes that as well. Otherwise, she wouldn't be here. Not for sure, man.

My girl, I pour, man, I pour into my girl, too. I'll tell her, man, she's going to be a great mom. Like, you feel me? Like, even if you ain't have the best, like, and that goes for all of us. If we ain't have the best past, like, I wish I ain't have certain decisions I made. I wish I ain't make, you know what I'm saying? And certain things she did, she wish she ain't do. But it's like ultimately God does that because we learn from them so we can feed that

to our daughter. You know what I'm saying? Like, hey, you ain't got to hit these walls because I hit these walls. You know what I'm saying? You don't got to make these mistakes because I did. Like that's what it's like, man, we ain't pressure on our daughter to do nothing. We want to just be the best you can. Were these the deep conversations in Italy?

Hell yeah. I mean, we talk like this all the time. You're like, all right, this is why. Yeah, like that and a million other things. Okay, fair, fair. I don't even remember. It was so much. It was just like stuff you would have learned over like a year just at once.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, my girl, I just wanted, you know, she know I'm a good person. I don't really, I don't really, I don't really, I don't really, I mean. I mean, if you weren't a good person, I would have. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But we talk to, though, like, my girls, I love her, man. I love what, I love what we got, you know what I'm saying. Yeah.

I'm off his wine, but this wine, but this wine got me kind of emotion. I ain't gonna lie. No, but it was good. I think it was good because, like, you said some very real shit, some very profound stuff. You're an example, bro. Yeah. It makes sense.

It makes sense why you have what you have. Absolutely. Yeah. And I'd be scared to lose it. You know what I'm saying? No matter how much I got, I know God could take this shit from me. I don't go to fuck two, three million. Like, God to take this shit from me.

Like, you could, something could happen. Your granny could get cancer and motherfucking, the treatment could be a man. You just never, like, God to do things. God could take this shit from you. And I feel like, I feel like, I feel like he can't. You know what I'm saying? Like, a lot of people feel like they're untouchable. And money is just money, bro.

It's just a dollar, bro. Nothing is forever, though, too. At all, bro. And what fun is having money if you can't spend up with the ones you love? Like, what if you got all the money and everybody hate you? You know what I'm saying? The niggas around you hate you. It's like, it's pointless.

It's like, it's pointless, bro. I think a lot of people live life's that way. Hell yeah. That's why they be unhappy. That's why they give so, then they start to give so much because, like, they want it. They try to buy people's love. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's different when you got their love already and you're giving them money,

but it's like you already got their love. You earned that. You know what I'm saying? It's like, no, I feel like that's the fakes shit when you got to pay for relationships. Absolutely. When did you get into God? When were you like, getting to God such a funny way to say it? When did you become more religious?

Probably when my best friend died, to be honest, I feel like. But that's why I say certain things happen for certain reasons. Maybe God took that took him from me to bring me closer to him, you know what I'm saying? And make me look at a life different. You know what I'm saying? Because I don't know. Like, it just like when things like, when things like, when. when certain things happen that you just can't explain,

it's like, it's like you gotta go to God. It's like, it's no other way to explain it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just trying to make sense of my life. So it's like, ultimately the Bible does that, you know, because it speaks in so many scenarios that helps you relate to your own life and you can put your own life in, you know what I'm saying, in that same equation, you know, but I feel like, yeah,

I feel like for showing my best friend died and just realizing you just can't do that. And just the internet space, you know what I'm saying? it's evil, bro. You know what I'm saying? You run into so many fake people. You run into so many things where it's like you just got to be grounded, bro. Like you got to, you got to, that same hole that you have in your, like your heart, you got to, God can only feel that, bro. You know what I'm saying? And I had money and it just, I didn't have so much money and it was just like, I don't feel right. You know what I'm saying? I still feel unhappy. You know what I'm saying? You've been there before? Yeah, hell yeah. And it just ultimately led me to God. But yeah, I don't know. I mean,

my family to my family is very God centered. You know what I'm saying? That's, that's all where about you know what I'm saying and it's just a better way of living bro you know what I'm saying you just and breakups breakups love me to God for sure because it was like out the gym yeah yeah the gym bro like it was just like gym and sermons every day like when I went through that's why like any breakup I know I'm always good because I got God like anytime I get broken up with a cheated on I'm in the gym and right out that I'm listening to sermons all day every day you know what I'm saying and it and it help heal me and it's like once you see what God can really do for your life bro like I'm talking bro like making no money.

I remember I went through this situation. It was a big breakup. And you know what I said? I went through this big ass like hate. Like it was hate farming me or whatever the case may be. But I knew who I truly was and they ended up coming out on top. You know what I'm saying? But I went from now I know how I was going to pay my rent and almost ask, I almost

asked him on for some money. Like 300K on YouTube. I'm famous. You know what I'm saying? But I almost asked him wrong for money. You know, I remember I had paid my brother's graduation. I paid his graduation little thing. You know, they package.

It's like $2,300. And I only had like $400 left in my account. And I paid it. And then my mom asked me if she asked me for something else, then I was like, damn, I don't got it. You know what I'm saying? And then the whole shit happened. And then the next month I made $20K.

And it was like, what the fuck? I was on my last $100. And I prayed to God every day. And I made $20K the next day. And it ultimately just, it's shifting my whole life. You know what I'm saying? When God moves mountain for you, it's like, how could you not respect him?

How could you not praise them? How could you not encourage people to run towards them? How could you, like, how could you not? Like, I feel like that's a slap in the face. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's like if I did something so, that's like if you was broken hell and I gave you a $100K, like, how could you not say that I'm a good person for you?

You know what I'm saying? How could you not say I'm not a good person to you? You know what I'm saying? I feel like if you were to say otherwise, that would be a slap in my face. Yeah. Especially if I did it out of being genuine. You know what I'm saying?

It wasn't because, oh, I gave you money. I'm speaking. And it's like, no, God did that shit for me, for me. You know what I'm saying? He didn't do it for me. But oh, yeah, to give him the right. Oh, God, you did that for me. Like, no, like, he did that shit because he loved me.

You know what I'm saying? So I use that same love and I carry that. And I always try to my best to direct people towards God because God has changed your life, bro. Whether you think it or not, bro, God will really change your life. Yeah. That's a fucking fact. I struggled with the God thing for a long time in my life. But I'm getting closer for sure.

No, yeah, bro. I promise, bro. Just like, and I feel like a lot of. lot of us sometimes we run away from God because we feel like ashamed of ourselves because we don't want to come to him sometimes. But it's like, man, like when you think God don't want you to talk to him, but that's when you want you the most, you know what I'm saying? When God takes things from you is because he's trying to corner you. Like, God has to take things from you so you have nothing but God. Like you look up and your friends fake, you look up, your friends talk shit

about you so you can't hang out with them no more. Your girl cheat on you so you don't got a a girl no more. Then you, you in this big ass house by yourself, you're like, damn, what the fuck is going on. It's like, nah, like, God is trying to direct you towards him. Like, come to me. When you come to me, everything else is going to flourish around you. You know what I'm saying? So if you just, like, my biggest advice to get closer to God is just listen to sermons, bro. Like, when I was broke, like, when I'm like, how do I gain strength? I'm looking up sermons, how to gain strength sermons. You know what I'm saying? You know, T.D. Jakes, you know, he has his controversial things, you know, because people would be saying shit about him.

But he has a great platform, though. That nigga, he had, like, he would say some great shit, bro. Like TD Jakes, you listen to people. Just search up your problems, bro, and surrounded by God, and you'll be all right, bro. It should have started making sense. Everything, it makes sense, bro. For me, it was different. I feel like I got closer to God because I just started, like, talking to him, like, my friend. Like, I don't know, because I was raised religious, and that made me not want to be because I felt like it was forced on me.

And then when I became an adult and I went through my own problems and, like, I was at my worst. then it's like you start talking to God and everything always gets better. And so then it just became, there was just no pressure. Just for reference sake, you talk out loud? You can talk out loud. You can talk in your head, like whatever you want to do, literally. That's why I'm like, sometimes I would just talk in my head at night. Sometimes I would actually like get on my knees and talk.

But overall, I just wouldn't put rules or pressure on it. Like I would just, as if you're going to therapy, like you're just talking and then you feel better. And then when you don't have someone pressuring you or you're not trying to compare because it's like, yeah, you could tell someone to go to church every Sunday that doesn't mean anything in my opinion. It's like your personal relationship with God is...

It's not the time you spend is how you spend it, you know what I'm saying? But like me, bro, like... It's different for everyone though. Yeah, yeah, no, it's different for everyone. Everybody has a different relationship, but that's your own relationship with God. You know what I'm saying?

Everybody has their own relationship, you know what I'm saying? But like me, bro, because I meant to add this before when I said I had like no money then I end up with having money. The thing that really was like, it's God was, I swear, I had a video and everything in my phone and everything. But I had made a video,

I was like at $100 going through hell of hate, you know what I'm saying, for people just misunderstanding who I am. And then I prayed, I swear I was in Atlanta, bro, and I prayed on my knees. I was going to drop this project. All type of shit was going on. And I had prayed on my knees,

and I got on my knees and prayed and I cried for the first time ever. I cried. I let everything that I had to say to God. And I let him know my heart. I was like, man, God, like people hating on me right. Now, this not even a truth.

You know what I'm saying? This is somebody lying on me, whatever case may be. I'm just crying to God, pouring my heart out to him. And I swear on my life. It was like two days later. The whole situation went my way. And the, like, the truth came out. And then I gained 200K on Instagram in one day, bro.

200K on Instagram and one day. I went from 100K to 300K. My TikToks went up. Every platform went up. Every song went up. Everything from that point on started flourishing, bro. So every time I had a problem, I always prayed to God.

And when I cried, a blessing always came to the next day or the day after, bro. And it was like, yeah, God's real, bro. Like, he moved mountains for me. Like, he don't play, bro. No, yeah, that's amazing. I also want to say, though, like, for anyone watching, though, if that doesn't happen,

then they might feel like, oh. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, you got some crazy-ass world, bro. But it's God, bro. I will say, though, you also have to, like, what I learned from on my own journey is you have to express gratitude. You shouldn't just talk to God when you want. help like you have to talk. That's why I said like a friend.

And that's how I do it. Just because even when things are good still talk to him. You know what I mean? But I think, yeah, everyone's journey is just different. Like I personally wanted it to feel natural for me. And my mom has never like forced anything on me. Like we all grew up religious. It was mostly like the older people in my family.

Like I was in Catholic school, got baptized, like all the traditional things. Yeah, me too. So I didn't appreciate it because it just was like, I was born into just thinking like this is what I have to do. Yeah, I agree. But even for my daughter too, like for our daughter, I would want her to have her own relationship. And like, like, obviously you can talk to your kids about things and stuff. But I want her to have her own connection.

Like, I don't want her to feel like, oh, my God, it's Sunday. I have to go to church. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. But I also feel like it's how you do it, though. Like, I feel like my parents was waking me up at 9 in the morning. Get your ass up. Get dressed.

Like, now it's like, damn. Like, then I got to go. sit in the class with the kids and shit. But like, if you make it a great experience for them, it's all about how you treat it too. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like especially us being two parents and us showing that we love church.

I feel like that of course, maker, like love church. I feel like me, it was just my mama. You know what I'm saying? Or just make it like a positive thing. Yeah, bro, after church, go get some breakfast.

You know what I'm saying? Like create memories or whatever. You feel I feel like? I feel like it's also how you introduce it. Yeah. You know, but no, yeah. Everybody has their own relationship, bro. Like, man, I can't.

I don't even talk about, oh, they should have, God. They're a judge, you know. But like, I love God, though. That's my dog, though. That's really my dog. I really sit there and talk to him when I'm down. When I'm up to, I try, that's when I try to talk to him the most. Because I want him to know, like, man, I don't be just coming to you when I'm broke.

You know what I'm saying? I'll be having moments where I go on my view and I cry and I talk to him and I just express how grateful I am for him. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I feel like if you just try to just keep just watering that relationship with him, bro, like, God, a look out for you. to look out for you. You'll feel this presence, bro. Like, if you just continuously just every morning just thank God and just talk to him or like, you know what I'm saying, try to just get closer to him, he rewards that. You know what I'm saying? He just rewards when you try. You know what I'm saying? God knows your heart. If you're trying, bro, he's going to reward you,

bro. He's going to reward you, bro. You know what I'm saying? He's going to pour into everything you pouring to. He's going to care about everything as much as you care into about it. You know what I'm saying? If he sees little stuff like that, you just thanking God or whatever the case may be, he's going to pour into your podcast. You know what You just got to give them gratitude, bro, and not be afraid. A lot of people are afraid to express their love for God, you know what I'm saying, because they might get judged or whatever the case may be, but you got to be unapologetically you.

You know what I'm saying? You can't care with the next person to think. You know, I respect everybody's religious beliefs, but that's not going to stop me from speaking about my God and what he's done for my life, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah. Well, switching it up a little bit. You guys had the baby shower.

I went to it. Who set all that up? Was that you? She heard. I was all hurt. I mean, like the aesthetic was my part, but the other stuff, I don't know. Yeah, just like the people, that was me. Like the people and, you know what I'm saying?

You know, production had, they should, they were supposed to take care of, of course. But I was just in charge of the people coming, you know what I'm saying? She was in charge of how it looked. How did you get linked in with the ball brothers? My boy rock star, man. Actually, my, I know Lamello already. Like, Le Mello, my boy. Like, we talk all the time.

You feel me? Like, that nigg is, but he's hilarious, brother. That's my dog, though. Mello, my dog, but... Is that relationship from streaming? Mello? Is it? I don't know.

Honestly, I really couldn't tell you, bro. I met that niggas so long ago. And we just... I don't know. Everybody I meet, we just be... It'd be funn't like I know them niggas for 10 years, bro. You know what I'm saying? So it just be so genuine.

I really couldn't tell you the times I met people. But as far as Lanzibar specifically, my homie rock star, he's like a big producer. He's a Grammy producer. He'd be producing for Chris Brown. like their albums though, you know what I'm saying? He's like a really big producer. Like I did something to go to the studio with Young Thug and he's up there right now

with him. So he'd be throwing me a lot of lives, you know what I'm saying? But that's why I'd be grateful, you know what I'm saying? Because God be putting people on my way, like, how did I be rock star? I think, oh yeah, I think we follow each on the gram and he was just hooping with like he'll be hooping with like Lonzo and shit and then he'd be like I'll slide up like, man, you got, you got come, let me hoop, you feel like, I'll be getting buckets and shit.

So then I can't have broke crib and then I think Lanzo wasn't there that time. But, you know, I just was still there. Like, you know, still there chopping up with my bro and just, you know, just building genuine relationships with people. And then they end up just inviting me. Oh, we're going to Chris Brownhouse to hoop later. I'll pull up. I'm all right, bet. So I'll pull up.

Oh, we're going to Lanzo ballhouse this weekend to go hoop. I'm like, better, I'll pull up. And then I pulled up and then we hooped. And they fucked me. They just felt my energy. You know what I'm saying? I always try to just dish out love. I always give the flowers out.

You know what I'm saying that they deserve. And then I know Lamello, so it was kind of like a hand-in-hand situation. Yeah. But they end up coming to the baby shower. I invited them when we hooped and then they end up coming and then you know they bring their whole crew

and now it was just all love like now I just got to hold with them niggas like a couple days ago you feel me like just be all loved but that's how like God worked like gotta put people certain people in your life and then that's why I'd be like

he moved mountains like you'd just be like oh I'm just chrilla with Bradley then you're like oh then the nigga you might have a homie that work at stake he might walk in this motherfucker and be like oh hey you got a big platform I want to do some shit

then now I'm making 400 care I'm on steak like he'd just change your life like that you know what I'm saying That's why it just, it's just got to be genuine, bro. I feel like just being genuine to take you a long way because these niggas are, everybody's so used to people trying to gain off of people, you know what I'm saying?

And it's like, I've never been there. I treat, I treat, bro, just how I treat you. I don't go, fuck, if he's a cameraman or your editor, like, that shit don't matter, and you all people, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't have nothing I want to gain from nobody. I don't look at people like that, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like just being genuine.

That's how I kind of met, bro. You know what I'm saying? Shout out my boy rock star, so my bro. I mean, it's kind of the same way we met. Yeah. Just genuine. Yeah, literally just pulling up and then I always try to water my relationships, you know what I'm saying? Like I don't ask of nothing from nobody.

I never ask you for nothing, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't ask niggas for nothing. If I ever ask somebody, I really need it, you know what I mean? But my rule is like you never ask nobody for nothing until you really need them. But like I feel like me, I'm the type of nigga, like I wouldn't ask you for a collab until the fourth time I see you. You know what I'm saying? I would say hi to you four times a row before I ask you for a collab. You know what I'm saying?

Because I wouldn't just rub it. I'll see you the first time. Hey, we got to do some shit. Let's do some shit tomorrow. I'm just streaming in your face. Which is like normally 100% what happens. Yeah. It's just like the complete opposite.

Yeah, literally, bro. But I feel like people appreciate that more. You know what I'm saying? Things feel transactional, I think. Yeah. Like even today, like when I went to Lanzo Barclis the first time or Chris Brownhouse to go hoop, I could have streamed. You feel me?

Like, my bro gave me the green light to go stream and all that. But I'm not going to stream. I'm going to stream. Off camera, I'm gonna pull up, chop it up, vibe, hoop, laugh. Like, talk about shit. We can't talk about on stream, whatever case may be. Like, it's just vibe, bro, and be a real person. You know what I'm saying?

So when we do stream together, it's just, it's genuine. It's like, damn, I know you. You know what I'm saying? I have that personal relationship with you. I met Chris. He's a good dude. Yeah, hell, yeah. Cool as hell, bro.

He cool as hell, bro. He invited us to his home, you know what I'm saying? Open arms. He cool as hell, bro. I fuck with everybody. I fuck with niggas, man. For real. Well, dude, it's been a fucking absolute pleasure to have you on.

No, thank you, bro. You're a real, you're a real ass dude. No, thank you, bro. And I know that just even the short interactions we've had at the gym completely off camera. Yeah. And I appreciate your time sincerely. And you as well. I'm sorry to my mom.

I know you're pregnant, super pregnant, ready to go. So I appreciate you taking the time too. No, yeah, I'm chilling. Yeah. Now, I appreciate you for having us, bro. You know, I got a lot of friends that love your podcast. So they was excited that I was coming up here too. I appreciate it, man.

Yeah. The God talk and the motivational talk was special. No, for sure. I feel like God always be speaking through all of us, you know what I'm saying? And sometimes we all need that whether we want to admit it or not. I needed it. Yeah, for sure. I'm going to go say some prayers right after this. Not for sure, bro. Yeah. Like, get into it, bro. I got a lot of video. I'll send you a lot of YouTube video. I got a lot of sermons, bro. You can just scroll through them or just pick and choose,

bro. Listen to them when you're in a car, bro. Like, when you have free time, just play it. Like, it's also what you feed your mind. You know what I'm saying? Like if you feed, if you just be caught up on TikTok all day, you're going to just think like TikTok. But if you, whatever you feed your mind, but if you listen to straight sermons, you're going to, you're going to process life a whole different way. You know what kind of made me look at life different, just the sermons. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I ain't going to brag to me. But you got a semi-song.

Yeah, I sent it to you. I sent it to me. Thank you so much for coming, man. Of course, thank you for having us. Every Tuesday, I love you guys. We'll see you guys next week. Thank you. Yes, sir.

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