RAWTALK - King Bach Addresses Steroid Allegations & Parties w/ Diddy

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

On this weeks episode of RAW TALK, Brad sits down with the King Bach & talk about Bach's acting & stand up comedy career, taking steriods & much more! Hope you guys enjoy, see you next Tuesday! Sponsored by: Prize Picks Use code “BRADLEY” & Make your first $5 line up & get $50 whether you WIN OR LOSE! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/ivHR/BRAD

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Let's get back into this podcast. What's up, man? Man, what's good in your world right now? My world? Oh, man. It's just stand-up and just, you know, a jevio. Started this little thing. I like it.

I like it. It tastes good. Yeah, it takes good. Is that the first actual product you've ever created? Yeah, it is. Why so long? Um, why so long till I started it? Until you started, like, actually making a product?

Um, I thought about it and it wasn't really a interest of mine. My focus was always just like acting and content creation. And then I realized I don't drink coffee. I don't drink energy drinks. And you don't drink coffee? I don't. That's kind of crazy. I know, because I start to like, I twitch.

Oh, too much. Yeah, too sensitive. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, yo, but I, sometimes I'm like tired and I need like, pick me up. So I'm like, is it, is it because you've gotten, you've gotten older now. You actually get tired before you just naturally, which is good. Naturally on that natural stuff. So you, wait, you never took energy drinks or anything? No, I would just, I would just wake up, drink water, a little bit of that cocaine and then

I'm good to go. No, it's kidding. I kind of believe that. For real? Yeah, because I, wait, I give cocaine energy. No, I give crackhead energy. In real life. Yeah, yeah. Like, in real life, when I very, when I very, I was like, this guy's just always hyped. Right. And then now you're getting older, so now it's like, all right, product, perfect. It also sounds like you weren't really, I don't know, I guess a lot of people get into like the whole social media space and they're like money. Obviously, you needed to make money and I know you made great money, but it sounds like you

just did what you actually cared about. And now it's kind of shifted. You care about something else, which is why you're talking about this. Yeah, yeah. If I was going to make a product, like, it has to be something that I can like get behind. And this, like, this works. Like, trust me, like, it didn't kick in now. But later on today, you're going to be like, yo, Batch, this thing.

And you're a big guy. So, like, you'll really be able to tell the difference. You know what I mean? I don't know, man. I've tried so many different kinds of stimulants. I feel like it'd be tough for me to, like, notice, unless it was, like, some crazy shit. No, you don't notice. Okay, it'd have to be, like, cocaine or something for me to tell.

And I don't even do cocaine, bro. I've done it once. Yeah? Yeah. Who got you into it? No one got me into it. You just saw it on the table and, like, let me. me get a sniff? No, no. The story goes, I was, uh, I was actually in a situation with this older

women and I was going to hook up with one of them. And I was much younger. Yeah. And, uh, they were doing it. Are we talking legal? Legal age? Yeah, I was legal. Yeah, they were like, they were, at the time I was probably like 22 and they must have been like 36 or 37 to me older. You was getting it in. I mean, I, well, I didn't. That's why, that's why I was like, okay, this isn't for me. Oh. I did it because I, you know, and someone's like, yeah, try it. It's like, Norman, I'm like, oh, yeah. And I just was like, you pretend like you're about it, even though you're not. Yeah, yeah.

I did it. And for me, just like you described, stimulants naturally, I'm like, it's too much. Like, I'll get anxious. Right. Did it. And I was just like so, it was just, the feeling was too much. And then I tried to have sex and it didn't work. Oh, yeah.

Was it called the Coke dick? Whatever. Yeah. That's what it was for me. It's a real thing. It's a fucking first time, last time. Really? Yep.

I almost did it one time. Why are you lying? I've seen at too many parties. I know you've done it once. Why is she calling me? I know you've done it once, bro. I haven't. I've never done it.

That's so bullshit. I almost did it one time. Almost did it one time. And so I'm at Coachella and it's girl. Of course is at Coachella. It's at Coachella. Girl, batty, a little bag, you know, cute little thing. Small titty's fat ass.

Yeah, that's a good. That's a. And I was, I was. walking right behind her and then i was like really trying to get at her and then she was uh she was like doing this she had a little baggy cocaine i was like damn i ain't ever done no shit like that before she's like you want to try i was like all right let me see what that thing going to be like and i took it and i was like this close i had it on my finger and i was just like no i can't do it i can't do it i didn't do it but i was that close like this is a close

I was cocaine's ever been to me. What was her reaction? She didn't care. She wasn't trying to pressure me. Yeah. Did you still bag it? Of course. Of course.

The cocaine was the mission. For me, it fucked me all up. Oh, really? Yeah, bro. I just remember being like, oh, this is terrible. Never doing this again. Really? How did we start talking about cocaine?

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Football's back, baby. Let's go. Let's get back into this podcast. So, no, okay. Yeah. I remember why I was talking about it. So you've only sort of done things that you have like actually been passionate about. Yeah.

Would you attribute that idea to like you're like, long-term success because I know it's like you've been doing this for so many fucking years now like you're one of the first creators I ever saw making short form content I think you were probably one of them yeah um and you've been around for so long you've done so you've had like so many different kind of versions of like what you're doing but obviously now you're doing comedy and you've always been in comedy just as I would say a different kind of like a different pace different format yeah um had you always done everything like had you ever done anything where you were like I'm doing this and I don't really want to

but it's going to make me money and then you did it um no that was always my thing going in it was like if it if i'm doing something and he's to serve my goal and my purpose you know what i mean so like i would turn down so many tv shows so many things uh because like i don't want to do i didn't want to do reality shows in the beginning yeah you know what i mean so people would offer me all that and they would offer lots of money like and i would just turn them down because that wasn't my main goal and same with like brand deal some brands would come to me and you know it would be like a weed brand for for instance like they would be like yo we'll give you x y and z to promote this this this uh this weed and i'm like dance a lot of money but it doesn't it doesn't serve my purpose and

my goal so i'm not i don't do it you know when did you like your purpose and your goal when did you start to really define those things uh when i was 13 i wanted to be an actor entertainer yeah so i've been ever since then that was my i just stayed like to the path i was like whatever i'm going to do it's going to serve to make sure that i will be in movies one day why did you decide that what what what around you made you think that was a thing that you could do because i didn't i didn't really feel like a normal person like i didn't want to have a job i didn't want to go into a place and like sit at a desk and you know type or whatever i wanted to play different characters be different people and um the acting was the only thing and if i wasn't acting i i felt crazy i was like

you know i just didn't feel right yeah i just think it's that idea like i've talked to so many people over so many years now like most people that i've spoken to who have found great success you always reference some some point in like their childhood where they say the same exact thing like they felt like there was more for them yeah i always i just always find that interesting Everyone always says the same thing. And then, like, obviously I'm having a conversation with someone who probably did more than, you know, what the norm would have done. Yeah. Was that something that do you think anyone taught you that or you had, like, motivations or influences?

I just, I think when sometimes when you just like, when you're down and out, you just don't want to be down and out ever again. You know what I mean? Like, I hated school. I hated going to school. I hated people telling me what to do. I hated I hated all of that So I was like I need to get to a place Where I don't have to live my life like this

And that was the life of a movie star You know what I mean? So you identified being a movie star As like not having to live in a place Where you were unhappy Because it seems like Because that was the only thing I could do Like name another thing where you can be goofy

You can be silly You can be a whole different person And you can get paid to do it Yeah well nothing Yeah there's nothing else and that's you want it what way did you want to be a whole different person um so when i was in like second grade it's gonna be so stupid i was in like first or second grade and i went to school and um i pretended that i was mad or sad or whatever and you know people were like thought i was

like mad and i go to my boy and i was like yo people think i'm mad i'm not even mad And then they told me that's just, that's called acting. And I was like, oh, I want to do that all the time. You know, because you like the idea that you were tricking people. Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah. What's it called?

A pathological liar. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, what the fuck? No, but I wasn't lying like that. I was lying with my emotions. You were like, yeah, I got these fuckers. What were you getting out of them? Nothing.

Just like them to think that something else was going on. know what it was it and i just i love that so much you like the confusion of it um i think i just like the uh there there may have been a sort of thing yeah like tricking them like why why try i make this person feel i guess like it would it would be me like taking emotions out of somebody you know what i mean that's interesting yeah do you think your comedy like when you when you write comedy now or actually forget now we'll talk about that later but when you first started writing comedy and you first started in just producing comedy um did you try to go for that same effect uh no uh because now or when i you know that was when i you know that was when i was a kid right

like so second grade first second grade that's what it was it was just that feeling of boom making this person think this right then uh when i was older i watched the movie the mask right and i saw jim carrie i was like yo what is he doing What is this guy on the screen doing? Like, this is like on steroids. You know what I mean? I was like, yo, let me try and do this. And then my parents told me that that's acting.

And I'm like, yo, whatever that is, I want to do that. So I started taking acting classes, blah, blah, blah, blah. So that's where it kind of, like, evolved. You know what I mean? And then as I got older, you know, comedy influences you as you get older. So I started watching shows like Chappelle show. You remember that show? Of course, bro.

That's one of the greatest shows of all time. Right. So I'm watching that and I'm loving it. I'm watching other people like Donald Glover, Childish Gambino. I'm watching his YouTube channel. People don't even know. He started on YouTube. I had no idea.

Yeah, he started on YouTube. It was called Derek Comedy, was his group that he was in. So I started watching things like that. And I was like, oh, these are things that are, like, influencing me. And I love, like, being, I got to a point where I just loved being creative. I saw something in my mind and I just wanted to, like, make it. So that's what it became about. It didn't even come about comedy.

It became about an idea. in my head and me wanted to make it out and in it coming to life so i see that's what a lot of your first stuff started in just the kind of like comedy sphere though yeah as far as i remember like your videos were fucking viral as all hell like but it was a mostly comedy based yeah yeah everything and everything tended to be comedy based just because that's all i knew that was the only thing that influenced me i see yeah and you've done but you've done other roles and aren't just straight comedy like i've seen you oh yeah your boy's very talented um no yeah i've been in some you know dramatic movies greenland uh national champions um i've been in uh the walking dead

uh that's one of my favorite that's drama but no comedy there um but yeah i've done a lot of drama because like at the end of the day going back to that kid i was in first and second grade, I'm just being a different person. It doesn't matter if it's telling a joke or being serious. I've developed the skill of, you know, portraying different characters and different emotions. Yeah. What was it like going from, because I, you must have been one of the first to do this going from social media popularity into actual films and actual Hollywood. Yeah. And what was that process like? Um, for me, it was, it was kind of a gradual process because that's what I always wanted it to do, you know?

So I was always doing like the auditions and stuff before the social media. So it was just like after the social media and I went back to start doing the auditions. I made easier. Oh, yeah, this guy, he can do it and he has the following. So it made it easier for sure. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Open a lot of doors.

Did, uh, I think my first TV show was called House of Lies with Don Cheadle. um christin bell ben schwartz is that that Netflix thing no it might be on Netflix now but i'm trying to think no that's house of cards that's house of cards i'm sure that was like a crazy series yeah yeah yeah um house house of lies

and then my next show was called the Mindy project um with Mindy Kaling uh yeah it's just been like which ones have you enjoyed the most um I enjoy them all. No, but there's one you enjoy more than that. Oh, the one I enjoyed, and I wasn't even a big part in this.

It's called the Angie Tribeca show. Rashida Jones is in it. But yeah, I got to play a character. I had like dreds. Oh, it was fun. But I remember that one. It was wild. Is there any weird shit in Hollywood?

Yeah. Have you seen? Yeah, yeah. Never been to a ditty party or what? Yeah, I've been to a ditty party. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wasn't no dittying around. around when I was there.

I got you. Yeah. But yeah, a lot of people, a lot of people have been to the parties, but I don't think a lot of people have been to the freak-off, right? Those ones. Yeah, yeah.

It's funny, though, because people talk about that, like, oh, man, like, it's be, like, I feel like anyone, if they got invited, would probably show up. Not to necessarily, we're saying the freak-off, but, like, to a party. Right, right, right. And then where it goes from there is like.

Yeah, but you can't do a freak-off at a general party. you'll get shut down you know what i mean like yeah you can't just be like yo come to this free copy yeah i wonder if that's what people think it is like just show up and get nasty i um look here's here's a picture of me at a party is you at a ditty party nice i feel like you're about to troll me right now i just know you too well where's a picture are you on fucking google right now no yeah his voice fool's googling don't scroll left don't scroll right oh wow i don't know what's come next after that what was he

what were you talking about in this moment so at that moment um i was eating some food i'll text you the picture if you want to put on the thing um i'm eating some food and what year was that um let me see this was uh last year no it's kidding he's like six months ago he's like six months ago he was in a big of it bro oh shit no this was um I don't know what year it doesn't say

but uh if you had to guess um maybe like six years ago seven something like that I don't know but yeah so it was like it was a gathering of people it was food

um obviously a bunch of other celebrities yeah yeah yeah and you know i was eating chicken and and some cornbread wow classic it was good classic that shit was good though like chef like chef style oh yeah gourmet bro mac and cheese wow oh m biscuits and gravy wow catered kind of style right catered yes it was good and um and yeah he was uh he was asking me to do something for uh oh uh No, he's asking me to do something for Revolt TV. Got it.

And at the time, I just started this company called Zeus. And I was telling him that it's a conflict of interest because I just started my company called Zeus. And look at his face. Yeah, he's like, he's like, he's like, fuck. He's like, you can. Yeah, that's the don't tell me no face. That's the what the fuck.

Yeah, 100%. I have to pop this photo up. It's actually really funny. Yeah. he's dead ass looking at you like okay and yeah because we didn't have no subscribers we didn't have nothing at the time we just started so he's like hey that shit going to fail no he wasn't saying that but um but yeah it was just like he wanted me to do his uh revolt tv he wanted me to host a show there um and i just like i can't right now yeah yeah so that's that's all that's it nothing else

and then i went to the bathroom and this guy fuck now shit he saw a bunch of baby oil anyway I didn't see no baby oil Damn That's crazy Yeah he wasn't coming for you there Because apparently it said the baby oil All the baby oil stuff was like It was like actually

Some sort of drug in the baby oil Yeah Yeah that's what I heard Crazy shit dude How does that even work? Yeah I don't know

Wait so you rub it on the body And your body just gets numb And you fall asleep or I think it was a drug That you ingest Yeah But how? How can you rub it?

it on your body. I don't know if it's a rub on. I think it's just like you put it into something else and be like, have this. And that was in his baby oil? I guess that's what they were saying, yeah. They'd be like, yo, go over here and fucking, who knows? Yeah. I'm sounding like I know too much about this.

Yeah. I'm actually just making this up. You'd be having freak off here? I have no idea. I have no idea. Open that clause. Let's see what's inside. Fuck.

Yeah. Have you met anyone else from Hollywood that you were like super like you've always wanted to meet and then it was a big ass lead down? Or it was like everything you thought it would be? Because you probably met a lot of people at this point. I met a lot of people. John Cena, he's dope as hell. He was just on Kai String recently.

Oh, yeah? Yeah. Oh, dope. Yeah. I did a movie with him. He was just a great guy. He's, yeah, all around. What movie was that?

You did? It was called Vacation Friends. It's on Hulu. Man. Yeah, he's dope. Sweetheart. Nice guy. There are some people that are just like, hmm, but I ain't going to put them on blast.

Yeah, I feel like that's always the thing or say the name. Yeah, but I was at the, I was at the laugh factory. I'll just tell the story. Okay. And, you know, I was just working on a new set or whatever. And I'm going, I'm about to go up. And then this female celebrity comedian, she comes in white and privileged, very white and privileged. and she's like

What is it What do you mean when you say that? Why was she white? What was she like? She, because, okay, so here's the story. Like, I'm going up to do like a quick five, seven minute, a bit, you know, just to work on my set. And I do that all the time. I just pop in.

And she wanted to come and pop in as well. And they were like, oh, King Batch is going to go up first and you can go up after him. And she's like, King Who? He's like, oh, yeah, King Badch. He has like 20 million followers on Instagram or whatever, you know. And she's like, ugh, what is he going to bring down the room? You heard her say this? No, I didn't hear this.

Oh, okay. And then he was like, no, he's really funny. He's really good. He's going to be fun. And she's like, all right, fine, whatever. I'll wait. And then the guy, the booker, he comes up and he tells me this. He's like, yo, do you want her to go first?

She's really pissed off. And I was like, oh, I'll let her go first. And he told me the way she said it. And I was like, oh, fuck, no. And then I went up and I destroyed it. And then when I got off stage, I just walked by her like this. Yeah, bitch. I didn't say that, of course.

You just looked at her. I just looked at her like, mm-hmm. Go ahead. And then she went up there and she was trashed. I've been to a few comedy shows. And I would say, like, one of the most noticeable things is when a, like, because they go comedian after comedian, one of the most noticeable things in, like, the room and The energy is when someone comes in and they crush it.

And then the next person is like not as good. Yeah. You really feel that. You fuck it. You're like, ugh. Yeah. That's embarrassing. And I'm glad she felt that.

I'm glad she felt that. Do it again. Oh, she'd know me now. I actually saw her the other day. Is this a more popular comedian? Really popular. Really popular. Like mainstream TV?

Mainstream everything. Not Whitney Cummings. not her that's that's probably who people are thinking no not her but on that on that same level you know what i mean yeah um whitney's great i love her yeah she's dope but uh i saw this other comedian at the uh at the airport um and and uh oh how trying that's is uh so i opened for joe as well right okay so someone's gonna put together the dots on it's like names and shit no they won't unless you get joe on the podcast um all right so so joe is like introducing this female comedian to everybody because he's oh shit da-da-da-da-da and i just

it's the same one yeah the same one from years ago and i just we were just at the airport like two weeks ago um and i he's like introducing i purposely just walked by and then and then I hear him say oh you know batch yes you know me yes you can know me yes she know me um but yeah and I and that's when I was like oh shit

it's kind of like treat everybody with respect because you never know who's gonna like hold on to that like karma yeah I mean is there a lot of comedian beef there's got to be

with the older head yeah with the younger kids no like love Trevor Wallace yeah you know what I mean Renee well it's it's gotta just be like the the feeling of like the passing of the torch and like I had this before you kind of right right right yeah a lot of the older heads they don't they don't vibe at all notice like a lot of the greats haven't even done movies together you know what I mean oh even within their time yeah I see what you're saying I mean maybe it was probably just I don't want to say it's more competitive then but I think it would have been

because without social media like social media made it a place where collaborating is actually more beneficial than not collaborating and I think back then it was just like I got this role or you got this role and I got it so that's true that's probably why there's more of the like I don't want to say beef but

you know separation with them and that's probably why they bring that into connection with the younger yeah I want to see a Denzel Washington Will Smith movie why can't I see that? That would be fucking You know what I mean? Holy shit.

That's never happened, actually. No. And it never will happen. Why do you, who do you think is at fault there? Who do you think doesn't want to do it? I don't know. Denzel or Will. Is it a money thing?

Is it a budget thing? You know what I mean? They definitely both pushing that budget. But, yeah. Yeah, that is weird. I've never even thought of that. Yeah. Who's your favorite actor?

Favorite actor. Man, Robert Downey Jr., Denzo Washington. I love Robert Downey Jr. Robert John Jr. is great. There was a movie he did. I think it was called like a guy and two girls or two girls and a guy. What the fuck? Yeah. And he was dating. It was like it was it was a movie that took place in like maybe like a two hour setting. And it's so simple. The plot is so simple. He's dating two girls at the same time but they don't know about each other. And then he's coming back from a gig and they're both at his apartment. And they both met each other like at.

hour before and they find out that they're both dating him and now they're like oh let's play a prank on him you know so one of them hides in like the room and he's having conversation once they catch him in the lies then they both come out they confront him he was younger he was younger then he goes up to like the uh he's like pretends to be like real like that and then he goes to his bathroom while he's talking and then boom gunshot they go in the bathroom he's ah and then they realize he's faking it. He faked his own death to try and get out of the situation. It's so good. I got to find that movie. You know what name of that? Let me see. Yeah, I want to watch that movie tonight. Yeah. That's definitely an older movie. Yeah, two. What about comedians?

Girls, Robert. And you can't say Joe Coy. Um, two girls and a guy. That's what it's called. Two girls in a guy. Ninety seven. Two girls one cup. So weird. You know what that is. I know, sadly. I wish I didn't. Yeah. That's a time. Watch that at it. That was not a good idea. That's what you watched that. Comedians, Eddie Murphy, Jamie Fox, Richard Pryor, Martin Lawrence.

I should name some white people, huh? Yeah, fucking. Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey's the go, bro. Jim Carrey. Who else? Patrice O'Neill. You don't even know who that is, do you?

The name sounds familiar. I don't have a face with it, though. So good. There's a lot of good ones. Dave Chappelle. Oh, he's the girl. Yeah. Do you find inspiration in other people or like are there people that you?

Not with my comedy now. With my comedy now, it's kind of like pretty much how I shoot skits. It's like if I see a vision or I'm really like moved by something, then I'll try and figure out a way to construct it into a joke. So you told me when you're walking in, you're working on filming your own, like, special? Yeah, filming at December 27th and December 28th at the San Jose Improv. If you're there, come on back. What do you mostly make your comedy about? My comedy is about my life, really.

Like, you know, of course, you know, there's jokes and, you know, and like, embellished. But it's like, it's really about who I am, how I grew up, my thought process, my mind, how my mind works. and yeah when you leave my show you're like oh shit i know more about king batch than i ever thought i would know why do you think um comedy is like i don't know it seems like over the last five years or so three years really more more so recent um comedy's sort of under attack as far as what you can and can't joke about as far as like being canceled and like all kinds of shit like that it's not it's just the it's just online makes it seem like that if you are If you're a fan of mine and you come to my show, you're coming into my world.

And by the end of the show, we'll feel like family. Like, when you're with your family, when you're chilling, like, if these cameras weren't rolling, we could talk about whatever we want to talk about. You know what I mean? And it's like the moment that that we have, like, off camera when there's no cameras in and we talk about real shit, that's the moment that I try to bring to, and most comedians try to bring to on stage at the shows. It's like, hey, we're family here.

we're going to talk about some shit. Don't get offended. I'm not trying to offend anybody. I just want to, you know, speak openly and speak freely. And that's a vibe and that's the energy that people get at a comedy show. I'm like, yo, we're at a fucking comedy show. Yeah. You know?

Why do you think, and this is kind of like, obviously not really having anything to do with comedy particular, but why do you think the world seems like it's so much more divided now than it sort of ever has been? And now I'm not trying to make this at all any sort of political conversation, but just just curious. Like, it seems like social media, obviously anyone could say anything on it. Anyone could do anything on it. But it just feels like more than ever, it's like people are taught to not like each other. I mean, I think it's always been like this. I think we're just now realizing it more because we're older. Oh, we're older.

Yeah, we're older. And we're paying attention to that stuff. And social media, of course. Because, like, yeah, look at all this stuff. that's happening all the wars that are happening when I was younger I wouldn't have known about that the only thing I would know about is 9-11 and they got Osama bin Laden like that because it's on the news now you got social media so you see more than what's on the news you know what I mean now you're seeing all the stuff that's happening in the Middle East you see stuff that's happening

in in like Russia Europe all these other places right um Israel all these things that are happening. We're seeing it because of social media. And like, yeah, not to get political at all, but, you know, I'm trying to, you know, so there's certain sides that the U.S. defend, right? And in the media, they'll portray those sides as the right thing, right? And if it's too violent or it's too bad or it's too this or whatever, they'll suppress that media on the news out, on traditional outlets. but you can't suppress the social media so it'll be exploding on the social media so we'll still know about these wars

and things that happen. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I see, yeah. So it just, but I guess beyond even just that, the war side of things, it just seems like this is kind of like shooting, not really in the dark here,

but little conspiracy theorist, but it's like, do you think that it is by design to create, I guess I can't say it's by design if it's social media, right? Because if it's, we're creating it. But it just seems like, I don't know, maybe it's just an election thing, whatever the fuck it is. But anytime I get on the internet, it's just like, everyone's racist, everyone's wrong,

everyone's bad, everyone's this. And it's like, definitely election thing. Are real, are people, real people really like that? In certain cities, but, but no, they're trying to, that's what you do to, like, run your country. You have to, you have to make people fear you. You know what I mean? That's so fucked, man. That's what you do.

That's why, you know, it's like all these things, like, make sure you get that. make sure you don't do that make sure you take this vaccine make sure you don't take that vaccine you know what I mean it's like you have to create fear to control a population yeah and that's what that's what that's what they do it's right do you think it ever changes no it's been happening since yeah forever yeah forever it's crazy to me how that's so true and then it's just like then it's also interconnected with to so much economy and money and then I'm just like fuck this yeah this isn't going nowhere and I hate to say that because it sounds like, you know, I don't know what the word is, like, just so grave. It sounds like I'm just, you know, hoping for the worst.

I'm not. Like, I'd love for it not to be that way. But it just seems like, you know, whoever is in charge, and I'm not even talking about on a presidential level, but talking about, like, all the economies and all the companies and all the things that are involved and invested in these things being a certain way. Even if you got rid of all of them, it's like someone else is going to take their spot and the human nature and it all just does the same thing. again where it's like, oh, I can get more from this for me, then I'm going to do it.

And then get more from this for me, takes more from you. I don't care. I'm just going to do it because I'm me and I'm not you. Right. Yeah. And it just, it's just like, you know, and I just look at the political side of stuff. And I'm just like, everyone just, like, we're just forced to hate each other. Yeah.

And I'm like, it's like, does it ever stop? It doesn't ever stop. All we can do is try and stay in our bubble, live our life, be happy and be positive. That's all we can do. Yeah. Fuck bitches get money. Yeah. Straight up.

Don't go to Diddy. parties anymore. Do or not. Because you can't do it. And if you do, just get the chicken, the cornbread, the mac and cheese, and get the fuck out. Yeah. That's it. So what do you do, what do you do to stay in your, you know, in your bubble per se or in, like, your world? Like, how do you find your own balance? I set my goals and I just stay true to those goals. And I set my goals really, really high. You know what I mean? So it'll take a while to get there. Like, biggest movie star in the world, got set that goal. And everything I do is a step to. towards that. That's why the stand-up comedy is there. You know, that's a step towards that.

I make my special. I do this. I do that. You know what I mean? And that's what keeps me grounded. You know, if I didn't set a goal of, oh, I want to shoot a comedy special, then I wouldn't be on tour. Then what I would be doing just in LA? You know what I mean? Probably just wasting time going to parties, doing this, doing that, drugs and all that. But since I've set my goal, I'm only in town Sunday through Tuesday. And then all the other times, I'm out of town tour um you know perfecting my craft so you know i can shoot this special how hard is comedy like a stand-up bit i'm obviously i know it's much harder but because i've seen fucking you know comedy sketches be made but and then in a parallel how much harder is it stand-up than

shooting a sketch yeah way harder because it's almost not even in the same vein like yeah they're totally they're they're two different things it's like uh you know shooting a sketch you write a script You shoot the script, you edit, you edit it, and you post it. If people like it, they like it. If they don't, fuck it, right? Yeah. You don't know. You don't, you see laughing emojis, it's cool, whatever.

Yeah, in real life, it's like. Yeah, you go tell it, you come with a joke. Yeah, they're going to look at your ass. And then if you really trash, you're going to hear one of them. Is that a cow? Man, that's got to be like, God, I can't even imagine doing that. That's got to be some of the most pressure. like performance that you could do yeah first starting out it's it's like it's really hard like yeah

doing doing uh stand up first starting out sorry this um this right here is this is my jaivio break yeah what you put in that shit kind of got i'm not even going to lie i mean might have been the caffeine i drank earlier too but no i have a bunch of caffeine now that's a jevio um no it's um it's totally different the two totally different things. You bomb on stage, you're going to feel it. It's so hard starting off is because, say, let's just do a basic joke. You know a dad joke? Like a shitty dad joke? Yeah. I mean, kind of. Give me one. I don't have it offhand. Like a shitty dad joke? I don't know, man. Like, why did chicken cross the road? Yeah, why? Because he was,

honestly, I was gambling and trying to get to the other side to get some money. I'm thinking about it gambling. Yeah. Okay, cool. So let's just say, why did chicken cross the road, punchline would be just to get to the other side. It was just something simple, right? Yeah. You go, you write the skit to shoot it. Why did chicken cross the road? Boom.

Now, you do that, you shoot it. So I'm going to be like, oh, cool. And then you're just like, ah, you don't get it. It's fine. Let's move on, right? You don't get it. It's fine. Let's move on.

Your ego's not going to be hurt. You get it. You don't get it. I just spit everywhere. Jepio will make you juicy now. right you move on you do it for stand up uh same joke right you go up there white chicken cross the road i had to get to the side motherfuckers the fuck are you talking about the fuck off stage you know what i mean like if that if if that happens to you once you think you're

gonna go back on stage bro that seems like the most terrifying thing to do yeah i got booed once When I first started. How was that? It was crazy. I'm actually, damn, that takes balls. Yeah. So the joke I was telling, you want to hear the joke? Yeah, let's hear it.

The same way you told it. All right, well, then it's going to be, hey guys, what's up? Was it really like that? You were that nervous after filming content for all these years. No, I did stand up before I filmed content. Oh, what the fuck? Yeah. Standup was the first thing I did.

did. Because remember, Vine didn't come out until 2013 or something. You had already been doing it. Stand up. I started stand up in 2010. Holy shit. Yeah. So, yeah, my first year, first couple months or whatever, I think it was like maybe my fifth time on stage. And I was like, same thing. Like, I was like, ooh, this is, this is cool. This would be a cool, like, thing, whatever. It's in my mind. I'm like, I love it. right i go on stage i tell us like hey man this this uh this girl tried to give me some pussy i was

like man i don't want that pussy give it to the homeless and then even the homeless was like man i want that pussy box that shit up donate to Haiti and this was right after the the Haitian earthquake that destroyed everything in Haiti and this was in Miami Florida in a room full of Haitians it was like boo me get the fuck off the stage before we beat your ass i was like oh shit what's going on like word for word huh like actually yeah yeah

yeah they was mad there was boo and this is this is Florida Florida got crazy and I'm not there was boo a guy was on the balcony came down from the balcony just to walk up to the front and boo me yes

and it was a black room too black room's on play DJ they start fricking, fricker, fricker, to the left, to the left. Everything. Yeah. They was on me. So. Did you continue?

Hell no. Okay. I got the fuck off. Just that one joke, you're like, I'm out of here. No, I told some other before. Okay. But after that, you legit left. I had to.

They gave me no choice. They was like, get the fuck off. So then, um, so yeah, I got. And then the next, you have a choice to make. Do you give up? That shit. I'll give it to the hate. Yeah, it's so funny to me now, though.

That's a good joke. Think about it. It's fucked. You went from homeless, though, patience. You were reading the room, like, it's so disrespectful. I didn't care. I was like, I was so used to, like, just like, oh, if it's in my mind, let me just do it. I'm not thinking about the audience.

Yeah, yeah. But now it's like, okay, now I'm more aware. And, but you, in that moment, you have the, you have the choice to either. quit or get back up and get on that horse and ride that thing to a ditty party. Nice. Nice. No, no. Or just. You're already on East Coast. Perfect. No, but you have the choice of like giving up or like getting back on the horse and riding out. You know what I mean? And like I chose to like not give up. Like, and that's my kind of mindset, my mentality. It's, it seems like, fuck. I wasn't even aware that you had done comedy before you did the sketches.

Mm-hmm. that fuck that's just like so you were how old when you first started doing comedy I don't know how old I was 2010 and you did comedy before you ever did acting yeah I didn't get my first gig until like after Vine so would you classify yourself more as like a comedian then um

nah I don't even classify myself I'm more of an entertainer yeah I say entertainer yeah but definitely Definitely not, um, definitely not, uh, what you mean? Like, just a straight comedian, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I tell funny, funny stories. I can do stand-up comedy.

I can also do music. I can also do drama. You know what I mean? Don't do cocaine. Don't do cocaine. Nice. So, yeah, well, that, let me see that thing one more time. Yeah, go ahead.

See that thing. They're going to get at your gym soon. Whenever this, when, when this episode drop? Tomorrow. Oh, shit. Damn. Well. Yeah, he's going to have fun editing that.

Good luck. In two weeks. No, he'll be good. In two weeks, go to zoo culture. Get you some of this. Yeah, you send me, just, you send me whatever. Yeah. You sent me some, too.

That was actually pretty good. Yeah. Like, actually. When did you start getting into fucking training? Because I saw you recently and, like, for sure you got on steroids and I'm just going to go straight to it. That's what people think. Yeah, 100%.

Should I take out of my shirt now? There's no way you get older. Does that connect to this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no way you get older. Because how old are you now? 36. There's no way you get older than just...

Because I've known you for years. And I've seen you for years. And obviously, you were always in shape, but you can't just get older and get more jacked. It's not how it works. And you can't just say it's because I'm black. It's not a thing that... Because I'm black.

Okay. This is a genetic thing? No, you fucking... Because I've seen you... I've seen you train it with neon and I was like, pro, what the fuck? I know. Because I've seen you for a very long time.

And then all of a sudden, you just got more jazz. Jack. Yeah. So how much, how much TRT are you on? That's sick. I don't even know what TRT is. Yeah, I love it. It sounds like steroids. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm not on any steroids. People think that, bro. But I don't have a steroid body. My shit, my shit look natural, don't it? Yeah, it does. It does. You know, but to me, I was just like, you're older now and you're just more Jack. Did you just start taking the gym more serious? I started taking the Javio. No, but actually, obviously, supplements are sick, but what did you start doing that was different? Damn. Should I really give out the secret here?

I just, it's just the age thing and you got, because you got denser and you got leaner. Yeah. That does, that's not normal, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, so the secret, damn. Man, y'all got to pay me for this secret, man. No, no, just, it's not a real secret.

So go ahead. We all know it's not a real secret. It is a secret. It's called fucking TRT pins. No, this is an all natural. Oh, yeah. All natural. 100%. Give you a lie detector right now. I wish I had one. Yo, if you give you all natural, bro, where I'm going to go?

You can go look at my phone and Google right now. You go look at my search. You won't even see a TRP. Yeah, because you got a doctor showing you how to do it. You know, you ain't going to see nothing. You go see some porn sites. That's what you will see. But he won't see, no, none of that.

Yeah, I'm all natural, bro. I'm all natural. Nah, because I've seen you before. I know. You want to see? All right. I'm going to show you everything. I'll text you these pictures.

Because you were always kind of in shape. You were always in shape, rather. No, I wasn't, bro. Yeah, you were. Yeah, I was, yeah. Okay, so look, I'll show you the before and after pictures. And then I'll tell you what attributed to this. Yeah, the testosterone.

I'm glad, dude. I'm proud of you. Okay, so look. So look, this is my body before I started. What the fuck is going on with your face? Is that your real face? Oh, my, what the fuck are you doing? Why are you making this face?

Because I was sending it to a girl. Okay. All right. All right. So what date is that? May 15th. Okay. May 15th. This is me working out doing everything, right? Body stuck because I'm old. You still had abs, though, coming through, peeking. Bro, but look, look at these, look at this side, right?

Yeah, yeah. Let me show you seven days later. You just cut water. You don't lose body fat like that in seven days. Seven days later. Cut water. Okay. Now, so that was May. Okay, so let me show you now. Another dumb face.

Yeah. Okay, every time you take a selfie, it's a dumb face. But sick bod, bro. Yeah, the body, yes. You look lean. That's crazy, right? Now, and look at the difference. Like, you see this?

And this ain't no Photoshop. This is no Photoshop. No, I believe you. But, like. Well, you stop with the water. Not you stop drinking water, but you change something to your diet. Now we're talking. Yeah.

You cut carbs. What do? Carnivore. What is it? Now we're talking, Bradley. Yeah, so that's what I did. I just changed my diet. I cut out carbs.

Yeah. So you lost water weight. Yeah. So I cut out carbs. I intermittent fast. I've done that forever. I love it. Yeah.

But so this is my, because I've dieted. I've done all this shit for so many years, obviously, as you know. But how do you find, because not a lot of people can cut carbs and still feel energized and energetic and then be able to like no no no god damn it bro this whole thing's a giant fucking plug i thought you never ask bro no no stop it stop it stop it because just god damn it's so annoying i know it doesn't work that way even look that could be a great product no no problem not giving it like shade nothing but right regardless of that stuff there is some people still just genuinely, don't respond well to like a low-carb diet.

Yeah, that means they're not getting the right energy source. Like, you have to get your energy source from, because when your body goes into ketosis, you're not feeding off of the sugar energy. You're feeding off of the fat. So I love, so me personally, before I started this, I loved avocados. Yeah. You know what I mean? So now that I'm on the diet, you need, of course, electrolytes, you need fatty stuff.

So butter, butter, avocado, cheese, all this. I my breakfast five eggs yeah steak sometimes I get six eggs five or six eggs steak um medium well and uh like three avocados yeah so you're you're spot on with this and it's important because obviously like the results speak for themselves because i see and you was like holy shit it is important for people to hear because the common thing with dieting because i've talked about the shit forever and i've had people ask me questions about this forever is people will cut carbs but they don't replace it with anything else. Right.

So they'll cut carbs thinking like that's all I got to do is cut carbs, but then they don't realize that eating the fat sources is actually what's going to make that diet actually be effective and it's going to allow you to actually feel good and not crave basically sugar and carbs because you haven't replaced it with anything else. Right, yeah. Like you said that your body needs to be able to run off of efficiently

to kind of like be in this sort of ketosis, like if we're just going no carb. Most people do this diet and they don't sustain it because they don't eat enough fats because a whole other side of, I don't know, their brain or their thought process that, oh, this stuff is also fat is going to make me fat. I think a lot of people still believe that shit, which is bullshit. Yeah.

Because I've done that diet, and I've done that diet actually several times whenever I would do like a competition, that was my kind of competition diet. And every time, that's how I would like look my best. Now, as far as performing my best, I did always feel better when I had carbs in my diet as far as strength went. So that's why I was kind of asking you, like, if you're, you know, you're on stage, you're doing comedy, you're like, you're doing a bunch of shit. you, I guess you, you must naturally feel good with this type of diet.

Yeah. So the thing is also it's like, so the reason I got into this, I hear, I hear about the keto diet. I hear it all the time for years, right? And I'm like, that shit does not work. There's no way like a keto diet can like be healthy or sustainable or whatever, make your body look good. I'm like, whatever, right?

And I'm in Ireland on the tour, right? And I'm like, you know what? I'm like running three miles a day. I'm working out and I still have these love handles. I'm like, how do I get rid of this? Then I was like, you know what? Just fuck it. I'm going to just try this no carb thing and see how it goes.

I was like, I'm just going to do it for seven days. I did it for seven days. And I was like, what the fuck is this? So I was like, oh, this is great. And that picture, that seven day picture, that was no cardio, no gym, no anything. And I don't know, I'm not a, I'm not a bodybuilder like you. So I don't know any of these diet stuff. Like I have no idea.

So I didn't even know you can body hack your body, right, whatever it is. So then when I see that, I'm like, oh, shit. Then I start to look into it more. And then I started going to the gym and I was Googling it and learning. And it said that if you're going to the gym, you have to max out your weight, right? And the eating as well. So what I would do is I figured out my schedule to be intermittent fasting. I would go to the gym at maybe 10 a.m.

No eating, no anything. I would lift as heavy as I could. That's what I do basically. Yeah, lift as heavy as I could. And then like 10, 20 minutes after, I'd go have a steak. I'd have that breakfast, the steak break. And all I was eating was proteins. I was filling my body with proteins.

And when I started doing that, like after the gym, then I seen like the muscles start to get bigger. you know putting on pounds i so when i first started i was like at like the 15 16 17 percent body fat whatever i was and then now um i'm at 10 percent from doing the um doing doing this diet uh but yeah so then i i got it down to now i'm only in the gym 10 minutes 50 minutes a day that's all i'm in there for that's it that sucks though i don't but i don't i'm not i'm not a body i get what you're saying so i'm just in it for the results what are you doing in those 10 minutes um i'm hitting all i'm hitting max as hard as i can that i'm doing and i don't do free weights i

don't do dumbbells and stuff anymore i just do because so i go to um when i'm in the gym i just do all those exercises we're on the the machine it's like the machine is already built you know i'm talking about where you just sit like this and you go like that yeah like something plate loaded or whatever yeah exactly so i just do only that and i just do all of that and i just leave and i'll do maybe like five exercises, six exercise and I'm, and I'm out. But you do a full body, just different days, right? Or is it the same stuff every time? I do the same stuff every time.

What the fuck? My legs is like this. You got to change that. You want to see my strong legs. But yeah, I do. I do need to change that. I just got so, like, addicted to, like, how fast these results work on this diet that I was like, yo.

And like, I started doing photo shoots. Ah, my body. I got a photo shoot. bro, I just seen you at the gym, and I was like, when did he get on steroids? That's it. I swear to God. I swear to God, I saw you in the gym and I was like, nah, no, this is, that's dope. But I'm like, what the fuck?

Yeah. So it's, it's, yo, we do this thing on the tour. Let me FaceTime Joe Coy. He's seen you pick up. You should have him on the pod. I'd love to, yeah. He's hilarious, bro. Yeah.

So you tour with him? Yeah. Mm-hmm. How'd you, how'd you get that together? We met through Matt Rife Because I did Wiling Out And then Matt Rife was on Wilding Out as well

And he's like yo I open for Joe Coy You should pop through And then yo what up I'm on Bradley Martin's podcast What's good brother What on man Good to see you So I'm telling him about my body

And he thought I was on steroids Yeah it's either that or because he's black It's just like genetically Genetically And here's the thing You're not offending him because he says that all the time to us. Yeah, yeah.

I figure. Are you on steroids? And he goes, no, I'm just black. But here's the thing, Bradley. I'm witnessing it. And he legit does not do anything. He doesn't eat bread. And like he's on this keto thing.

And he literally looks like a, like a live action fucking plastic doll. Like one of those, like one of those old GI Joe's or Sand dolls. Like he literally looks like that, bro. It's crazy. Yeah. No, I've seen him at the gym. I was like, dope.

Congrats you started taking gear. That's sick. I congratulated him. He thought I was on sterile. Yeah, I swear. Joe, Bradley, he's got that one muscle that comes from the armpit that wraps around the the peck. Yeah, the lat.

It's called the lat. Yeah. Well, whatever that. Well, the serratis probably. Yeah, he has four of them. Right here. Serratis. Serratis.

Yeah. Yeah. And I got psiriasis. Yeah. You got some of those. Fucking bullshit. It's okay. We can't have it all.

Yeah. So we were talking about the tour. So I was just like, yeah, we're doing it on a tour where I'm eating healthy and you got to try it sometimes. But, you know. Yeah, yeah. I try sometimes. But goddamn carrot cake is carrot cake. You know what I mean?

There's carrots. Bro, it's so good. Carrot cake is so good. Holy fuck. Bradley, it's fucking delicious. I mean, at least it has carrots on it, right? I appreciate you, man. Thank you so much.

I got to have you on. Anytime. I'd love to have you on whenever you're in L.A. All right. Love you, bro. I'll talk to you soon. You guys connected for real then. Yeah, yeah. So Matt Rife. Because how does the opening thing even work? Is that like a comic who's trying to come up? Because obviously Joe Coy's been established for like a long long time.

Yeah, exactly. So at that time, I was doing gigs like, you know, getting booed. Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here before we beat Joe at. No, but I was doing the grind. I was doing the open mic grind. So I'm going, I'm performing at, in hotel lobbies. I'm performing, I'm performing everywhere. I'm performing at TGI Fridays. No.

Yes, bro. I'm doing shows at restaurants. What was this? At bars. This is like 2011. Damn. I had no idea you were really grinding like that. Oh, I was grinding like that.

I'm going, I'm paying $10 for five minutes, bro to perform, to go tell these jokes. I'm performing at, at bars, not getting. people's attention, so I have to stand on the bar and tell these jokes. I'm performing anywhere. If they have a mic, I'm there. Like, that's how much I was doing stand-up. So, and at these venues, it's like 20 people, 10 people, 15 people, whatever. At an open mic, those 10 people and 15 people are all comics.

And at an open mic, the comics, they'll just look at you like this. They don't care about what you're talking about because they're thinking about, okay, what am I going to say when I get on stage? What jokes am I going to tell? So you're not going to get a real honest response. And if you do get an honest response from an open mic, it may not even be a genuine one because comedians, when they're not watching it as a general member, like a general audience member. General audience member is there to laugh.

Oh, that's cool. That's funny, right? A stand-up comedian, when they're watching another, they're looking for the layers of this joke. Okay, there's nice setup, the misdirect, the punchline, the callback. they're looking for all of these things these word plays and all of that when you go to a real audience member they just want you to make them laugh bro like that's all they care about and if you do if you can make them laugh and have the layers into it okay that's cool but you'll get some comedians that'll laugh they're like oh they're dying laughing at some dark joke you told

because you know a lot of comedians are you know going through shit too and um they'll laugh at that But then you'll go tell that on stage at a regular show and they'd be like, yeah, that's kind of, what the, what the fuck are you talking about? What do you mean? I see. You want to fuck your cousin. What do you, what is that? What, what is that? You know what I mean? So it's a, it becomes like that, right? Yeah. So, um, so yeah, it's just, it's just wild. But when you, when you start, when you start, when you start like becoming closer with comedians, like how did you get close with one they would allow you to open up? Oh yeah. How does that work? That's what we talk. That's what we talk. That's what we talk. What's what we're talking about. Yeah. So, um, he's just got to be talking to circle now. But like, don't say that make you forget shit.

No, it don't. Yeah, it got, um, that was the LDN. You know what that was? The ketosis.

No. Exactly what I'm saying, bro. How do you stay as a comic and you have no carbs in your brain? No, I don't need. Because you know the one thing, the one thing that your brain runs off of solely is sugar.

Your brain? No, all brains. My brain on keto. I don't need. My brain run off an avocado. 100% does it, but it does convert the fat into sugar

so that it can be used in the brain. But that's what I'm saying. It's not as fast, you know what I'm saying? I'm quick now. You might be fast, but like, see what just got you. It just got you. No, wait.

So I'm performing in front of 10, 15 people, max, right? Yeah. And Matt is opening for Joe Coy. And then you told Joe Coy that you saw him at a ditty party. So if you don't let me perform in front, this is where, that's how it happens. Yeah, yeah, no, no. Okay. So Matt, we're doing wild and out.

Matt's like, yo, you should come to the show. I'm opening for Joe Coy. I'm like, okay, dope. I get there and it's a crowd of like 600 people. And I have never performed in front of that. And then he introduced to me. He's like, yo, you want to go on stage? I was like, fuck, no.

I'm never performing in front of this many people. The most people I perform in front is like 20 people, tops. And they weren't paying attention. You take, I'm going to go, tell my jokes. Yeah, that's. And that in front of 600 people and they're looking and paying attention to me. I was like, no, I'm good. He's like, no, no, you're going to go out.

I was like, damn. So I take a shot of tequila to calm my nerves and I go out there and I do my thing. And I do good. And then that was 2013 or 14. And then, yeah, I've been on the road with him ever since. And I've been doing his tour and my tour at the same time. And I've seen him grow from doing. You know, he was already big.

He's doing like, you know, rooms of 600 people. But now we're doing rooms, not rooms. We're doing arenas with like 25,000 people. That's nuts. Yeah. That's nuts. So, you know, there's a difference in comedy. People always ask me, like, what's it like in an arena?

Comedy Club is different from a theater, which is different from an arena. There's all three different types of stand-up, which is crazy to like even say, but each one is a different experience, you know? It seems like the smaller ones are probably more crowdwork, more like intimate, obviously, because it's smaller. Yeah. So you would do more crowdwork in that because they're directly with you? Not even that. Just depends on your bid.

Yeah, you could do crowdwork in arenas. But only the front, huh? No. Keep like, motherfucker back there. I mean, if you can see them, you could turn on the lights and then if you really want to see them. But yeah, the art of crowdwork in a comedy club is different from the art in crowdwork in theaters, which is different from arena. where the art in arenas, like you have to be able to paint the picture

of the person you're talking about to the person all the way in the 300 section. You know what I mean? You have to be able to, oh, this guy's wearing this and he's doing this. What did you say? And you learn little things like repeating what they say. Da-da-da-da-da.

So then they know what he said. You know what I mean? They know what he said as far as in the joke. Because they're not going to hear, they're not going to hear him say, yeah, I'm a, um, I'm a software engineer. Like, you're a software engineer. You do little things like that. I get it.

So then that way, when you're about to hit him with the punchline, the guy in the 300 section has already been following along because you've been repeating what this guy's been saying. Where in a club, you don't have to do that because everybody can hear it. Got it, got it. What's the hardest part in being the larger venues? The hardest part in a larger venue is you have to master the art of crowd control because Because in a comedy club, crowd control is easy because this guy's talking and having a conversation, you can just point them out, roast them, da-da-da-da.

In an arena, if someone is yelling like in the 300 section or something, they're like, they get out of control, then how do you control that? You know what I mean? You have to figure out a way. So it's all about the pacing in an arena. And every city is different. You'll have some cities where, like in Europe and we're. are doing Europe. Oh, everybody's so

polite. Definitely not America. Oh, jokes. We love that. You go to some cities in America, they make, yo, we're drunk. Hey, hey, and you have to try and... Like, they're the comics. Yeah, exactly. So you have to learn the art of crowd control

and how to really make sure that that it doesn't get out of control because once this guy this guy over here may be like really drunk right and then this guy over there might be on the same level as drunk as this guy but he's not going to say anything but if this guy yells out man fuck that shit man we da da da da da da then this guy's like oh shit yeah i want to yell out something too yeah fuck that shit and then by time you know it everything around you is just chaotic that's actually nuts yeah so you have to know and there's different tricks and tips that that I do and we do to make sure that

that stuff doesn't happen like what like what do you got to get that guy a shot no no no I can't tell you the tips and tricks you try to get all my secrets no what the fuck would you do you trying to get all my secrets he goes send him a 304 like what are you doing no it's just it's just different it's just different things like you don't you don't like pacing for instance is one thing you can do. Pacing of the joke? Yeah, pacing of the joke. Like, you don't give them, you don't give it room to even happen, you know? And also, it's like, if you're, if your joke isn't like polished or, or whatever, and it's a hostile crowd, then I probably wouldn't do that joke because, um, yeah, you just don't want to give any. So it's almost like preemptively

knowing what you're going into what it could look like. Right. So if, if, if I'm in, if I'm doing an arena in in uh in uh in a barcelona and i'm doing an arena in Atlanta it's going to be two different vibes barcelona i know that i can take my time i can think about stuff i can just be chill you know if i'm doing it on the east coast somewhere over here in america i know i got to perform i know i got to give them you know bang bang you know what i mean so you're going in there with the joke said that you know that you polished? Every crowd is different. And then you don't know until you hit the stage.

Like I could go to the East Coast place thinking like, oh, it's going to be rowdy. And they'll be like real chill and ready and, you know. And so you don't know until you hit the stage. So my thing, what I do is right when they call my name, coming to the stage, King Bash, woo, right? And I'll go out there and I'll just like, I'll look around, I'll watch, I'll smile, and I'll hear how loud they cheer, who, like, who's going crazy. Because, like, I know, like, so the last city we're in.

Fuck, where were we? I can't remember. But it was rowdy, right? I go out on stage and then, fuck, where was this? But yeah, it was just really rowdy, right? You think this ain't Vine, bitch? No, no, no, never like that. Come on, now.

They respect your boy. I go out there and I'm doing the thing where I'm looking around the arena, da, da, da, da. And then I see people going, yeah, yeah. Oh, king back. And I immediately know this is going to be a rowdy crowd. And rowdy doesn't mean bad. It just means they're too into it. You know what I mean?

Where it's more of like, oh shit, man, yeah. I'll tell a joke and say I have like um pick a topic let's talk about uh like working out right let's talk about working out say I do a joke about working out if that guy that loves me is is into this joke and I say one thing like man I let's say something ran I don't have a joke about working out but let's say um I say like I work out and I only do it for like you know 15 minutes right um if that if that guy's so into me right he's gonna be like man come on you got to work out longer than that come on man and someone else who agrees with that yeah man you got and now i have to do crowd control right so um i would have to know going into that that this guy may be a problem he may

be an issue so i would have to figure out my um my tips and tricks to make sure that this guy right here isn't yelling out. And one advanced technique, I can't even tell I'm not even tell all that. I'm not going to give you. Wait, no, what the fuck? You can't go that and say that. You got to take my masterclass. You want to give us one. You got to take my masterclass. Give us this. He said, give us this. He said give us this. You can't say all

that and say, no, no, no, I'm not going to say this. What the fuck is this? I'll give me a simple one. A simple one would be just ignore them. No, fuck that bullshit. Fuck that dumb ass answer, bro. You got to finish that thought. Otherwise, everyone's going to be like, what the fuck is he saying? So, yeah, if you see someone, then I would go to him and I would have to embarrass him. I'd have to roast him.

So you'd roast him. Yeah. Yeah. Because here's the thing. Anybody can shout out something in the shadows. Like, hey, man, da-da-da. No, I mean, you can't do all that. You said, put a light on him.

Yeah, yeah. That's what you do. Because now. Oh, shit. Now, yeah, now I'm talking to him. and he and I'm I'm hitting them with shit you know I'm talking about him and uh if the punchline that I say whatever it's gonna get a reaction it's gonna get a laugh and now he feels embarrassed for talking out so now not only does uh he not say anything for the rest of the show

motherfucker over here that was gonna say some he's like oh shit let me not let me not say nothing you know what I mean so it kind of it kind of sets the example for for all of that so that's one technique that you can that's that's probably super common a lot of people probably use that yeah everybody does that yeah and that that's just to like get people and everyone like to just shut the fuck up and pay attention basically yeah exactly that's so interesting because that does make sense because if you get roasted and then you saw the other guy got roasted you can be like yeah I'm gonna be that next yeah because everybody can get roasted and even if you think you're not gonna get roasted we're gonna roast your ass there's always

something we can say or do to make you feel like you're the dumbest piece of shit that ever walk the planet earth yeah like there's there's there's there's no way around it you know what i mean so uh and that's what a comedy show is like people think some people go into some people i've never been to a comedy show before so they think like oh we're gonna go then we're just gonna like talk our shit do whatever but no a comedy show is you're going there to laugh and that's that's it like it's not it's not a it's not a q and a you know what i mean it's not it's not you give your opinion and I'll talk to you and have a conversation. Well, you got to have the guys who are thinking like, I'm fucking funny too. I'm going to say something. I'm going to make everyone laugh.

That's what they think. That's a lot of people do think that. And it never pans out the way they want it to. Have you ever seen anyone from the crowd make the whole crowd laugh? Yeah, but that means a comedian is probably really not doing a great job. Yeah. Because what happens if you are doing a good job and this person says something and they yell it out and it's just like rude, I'd just be like, Yo, what are you doing? Like, shut the fuck up. We're trying to watch the show. Yeah.

That's what a normal person would do. It's like at the movie theater. If you're watching the, if you're at a movie theater and someone yells at something, oh man, don't go in there. Like, shut the fuck up. Yeah, we're in a movie theater. Yeah. But there are sometimes we at the movie theater and someone says something like,

man, I wouldn't have done that. And everybody starts laughing, right? Because there are moments where it is acceptable. But, yeah, for the most part, it's like, yo, shut the fuck the fuck up. Let's watch this movie. Yeah. So you, you're currently on total. Or how often do you tour?

Yeah, every day. I'm only, every week. I'm only in town Sunday through sometimes. For like, for how long? For like the whole year? Like, what is this? Oh, we've been on tour since. I think it's been like two years.

I've only had like a month break. Well, so how does that work? You just keep going every weekend. Yeah, you keep going and the dates update. And this case. You just never stop. Yeah, never stop. It's almost like me filming a podcast,

just like you're doing it every week, no matter what. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I'm always trying. trying to work on new jokes, work on new material, add to my set. Yeah, I'm shooting my special December 27th to the 28th. What platforms? He's a good to be on. We don't know yet.

Joe Coy is directing it. Okay. And we're just going to film it independently and then sell it later. Yeah. Yeah. Has Joe been like a really helpful? Oh, yeah. It was a really great mentor.

He's helped me out a lot. you know if it wasn't for him i'd probably still just be doing those little open mics you know but he gave me the opportunity to to go on the row with him and learn so much more that's why i learned all this stuff of like these open mics are shitty because you're not getting honest feedback from how an actual audience member actually thinks and operates uh you take you go on the road now you know the truth you know what works you know what doesn't work you know what line you can't cross you know what line you can't cross. It's the psychology of it. It's like, you know, I can't go on stage immediately, if it's not my audience, I can't go on stage immediately and say something offensive

because I'm going to lose them, right? If I'm going to say something offensive, like we're talking about the cancel culture earlier. If I'm going to say something that's going to get me canceled, I have to say that 20 minutes in. You're working into it. Yeah, you got to make sure that they, that we all trust each other. You trust me, I trust you. You trust you. You trust. You trust. that I'm not a bad person, I trust that you're in, you're, you've accepted to be in my head. I see. Yeah. So I guess my question is for like people who are wanting to be comedians. If I was like, obviously not me specifically, but do you have to essentially then get put on or like how could you, I guess outside of social media, how could you really get like your foot in the door? There's no shortcut that in stand up. I feel like it's the only thing where there is no shortcut. And I was talking to Joe about this the other day.

you have to do the grind, you have to do what I did, you have to do the shitty open mics, you have to do this, you have to do that, you have to perform at these restaurants, you got to do all of that stupid stuff. But, because there is no shortcut. Like, you could be the best actor in the world and you can't do stand-up comedy. Like, you can't just go on stage and just boom, boom, boom. Even if, even if, like, the best, the goat comedian gave you what to say. Because it's not a just about what you say.

You have to be able to read the room. know when a joke is going great and you just finish the joke out or when you cross the line you have to bail out the joke or if the joke isn't working you have to bail out move on you have to know the right comedic timing um you have it's just so many different elements that you even if you're the greatest act in the world you can't do it because it's it's like it's like it's like baseball you know what I mean like you can you can look and see how they how they bat in the proper form so you got the perfect form but it's that it's that reaction speed like these baseballers are so good that they know what a what a a thing is once leaves the hand right and they have to

do their reaction time off of that i'll never be able to do that i can i can get my form perfect but how am i going to master the reaction time so that's like that's what i would relate stand-up to it's like you have to be able to master what's happening in the moment like you have to know like when you walk out, yeah, yeah, I love you, King Batch. Like, you know that you have to watch out for that. It seems like even if you have the content perfect, like the funniest guy in the world could write it for you. Yeah.

And you could have natural inclination to be good at comedy, but like you almost need to spend time doing that work regardless so that you learn that whole side of it. Yeah, because stand-up comedy isn't just about telling jokes. It's psychology. It's like you have to be able to manipulate the audience into getting into your mind and finding what you find funny. And there's so many things. Like, the audience has to be able to trust you.

A common thing is what a rookie comedian will do is when they get out there, they'll take the mic up the mic stand, and they'll leave the mic stand there. People don't know this, but that just shows a lack of confidence. What you do is you take the mic out, take that mic stand, put it behind you. It shows that, hey, I'm here. I'm taking charge of this room. That's one thing. Like, that's the most basic thing ever.

but it's little things like that that mean nothing really it's just taking the mic stand out and just talking but just doing that it's a it's a psychology instead of leaving the mic stand there in front you put it behind you you have to yeah you put it behind you and it's just a thing like that where the audience doesn't know that it's just they're just like why is this guy just like not a professional you know what I mean like they don't know why but that that's it like deep down psychologically, that's the reason why. If you were to leave it there. If you were to leave it there.

Yeah. That kind of makes sense in like a weird way. Yeah, yeah. So there's a lot of things like that. But would you learn those things, just from other comics? Other comics will tell you and then, or you can, if you want, you could do like an A-B test. You do one where you do it where you keep it there and, you know, or you do it and you don't. But, yeah, another thing is pacing.

how to pace how to pace to make it look like it's a a purposeful pace or if it's a pace that you're nervous like just because you're walking back and forth doesn't mean that you're confident it could be a nervous pace depending on how fast you're doing it when you're doing it are you doing it on a punchline are you doing it you know what I mean so there's all these different things that you have to learn like as a professional so it's like when I pace I pace with purpose you know what I mean so so yeah and sometimes people have these different tells like poker um I was talking to one of my friends he has to tell whenever he tells a joke he'll um he'll do a punchline he'll step into his punchline he'll be like da da da da da and then he'll tell you'll do another

thing and he'll go da da da da and he does he's not aware he speaks yeah he's not aware because um he's just he's everybody's reciting a script in your head you know what I mean so he's not aware that he's doing that. The movement with the speaking. Exactly. Yeah, I see. So that's a thing where I have to, yo, you're doing this. Now you have to focus on not doing that.

You know what I mean? So there's all these little things. What were some of the things that you found like that had fucked you up the most that weren't working for you? And I guess it must have been earlier on in your career because I'm sure you've gotten better at it now. Yeah, I would just say whatever I wanted to say. because when I first when a lot of comedians first start out

start off it's not about being funny it's about getting a reaction you know what I mean so you would say like I would say you think that's a good thing just to get a reaction that's the only that's the only thing you can do when you start out yeah because you don't really know structure and it's like

you know it's like if you're doing stand up chances are it's like yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna do this crazy shit like you're hyping yourself up to go in front of people and talk like this it's It's a very scary thing. Yeah. It's like going skydiving.

It's like, oh, all right, here we go. Right? So it's, it becomes more about a lot of, this is what, I'm not saying everybody, but a lot of rookie comedians, it's more about getting a reaction. So they'll go up there and they'll say something like really offensive and split the room or divide it. And it's like, you know, it's like, I can't even think of an example. But yeah, they'll say something really offensive.

And the crowd would be like, ooh. and they'll get one of those left and then to that guy's like yeah there we go you know because it's it's you watch a lot of comedians and you see like like a bill burr or uh um or who's the other guy louis k yeah and you'll see them and they'll have like really good like dividing the room types of jokes but they're really structured and they're really like it's really like it's really like to the point and you see the joke in it and you laugh. A lot of times people just say the crazy thing and just leave it there. And it's like, wait, what's your, what's your opinion on it? Or how do you really feel about it? You know what I mean?

I see. So you kind of, like, so the good comedians come back to like, not just telling the joke, but telling the joke and then making it relatable? Or is it like the same time? Everyone's different. Because if you look at a Bill Burr, he had that one joke, I can't remember. He's like, we need a natural, we need a natural disease or something. Like, we need to bring back swine flu or whatever i can't remember what the joke was but he said something like that we need to bring a disease back and like a rookie comedian would probably just say that and leave it there but he was saying uh i think his his like thing was about like um natural selection yeah exactly you know that joke you know what i'm talking about no but i could tell based on what you're saying

it sounds like he was saying we need something to come clean up all the stupid people exactly that's exactly what the joke is yeah and he tells it in a way yeah he tells it in a way where it's like oh shit that's dope it's funny i would have never thought about it like that and it's like all those elements are hit right but a rookie comedian won't really know they'll just look for man we need a you know what i mean so that's that's kind of uh the art in stand-up that separates a rookie from a professional if you got a big role in acting and didn't have to do comedy anymore like you don't have to do comedy obviously i i don't think you're not not financially well off i think you're good. But would you choose acting over comedy? They both, for me, they feed each other.

A lot of my movies that I do, I just improv the whole thing. And the confidence that stand-up gives me from making people laugh in the moment is what I apply to my acting on screen. Because I already know, like, oh, if I say like this, if I say that, or if I do this or do that, if I can make 25,000 people laugh in the moment, I know that I can make people laugh in the screen, on the screen. You know what I mean? So it's like, I'll take those skills that I've learned in stand-up and I'll apply it to the films that I do. So I couldn't do my comedy acting on film without doing stand-up on the regular. I see what you're saying. Yeah. It's almost like an area where you learn, like, more skill.

Yeah. What's the worst part, or excuse, rather, what's the best part of stand-up? that instant gratification that instant like y'all you tell this joke it hits um so me um i'm a numbers guy right ever since like vine and stuff makes sense that's why i had the most followers on that thing uh but yeah i'm a um i'm a numbers guy so i wish they'd bring that back fine no no no no why not because then i had to make more videos to try to stay on top i ain't trying to do all that um no so guy so I go now to the level where I'm not I'm not I'm not worried about anything I'm I'm trying to I'm worried about the laughs per minute right so that's what I look at when I'm on stage I'm saying how many laughs

can I get within this minute right so that's how um that's what I look at now but how the fuck are you counting that you'd have to watch back the tape no I I record all my all my sets so I'll go and I'll listen and I want to I want to make sure they're laughing every five seconds every five to ten seconds they got to be laughing what constitutes a laugh just like a chuckle like a ha ha no no so yeah those different types you can get a chuckle laugh or you can get like the big laughs right now if it's a chuckle laugh I'll I'll probably I won't say that anymore right I'll probably get rid of it because I want to replace that with the big laugh and that's what we're trying to do we're trying to see how many last per minute we can get.

And that's what I'll do. So every time I go on stage, whether it be an hour, 30 minutes. Now, hold on this. I'm going to interrupt you, but you have to be the only comedian that's thought of that. No. Last per minute? No, that's what we do. That's a thing.

People talk about last per minute. Yeah, the professionals. Yeah. Really? Yeah, if you talk, Kat Williams and said it a bunch of times. Really? I've never heard that shit. Yeah, last per minute.

But that's what... This is such a sort of social media brain thing to say. That's why I thought you did it. Oh, yeah. It sounds like it's like an algorithm like, oh, I'm on fucking Instagram and TikTok and fucking Vine thing to say. No, I listen to the laughs. So they're different types. You got the chuckle laughs.

You got the laugh laughs. You got the laughs. And then you got the applause breaks. So applause breaks are like, that's a really, that means you have a really good structured joke. Because you got to stop talking because they're like, because they're like. Yeah. They're like, oh. Because that means, remember the thing I talked about before where I was like the different layers?

Like if a joke has set up, punchline. misdirect, callback, da, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. If you can make a joke have all of that, the chances are that you're going to have an applause break

after you finish telling that joke. You know what I mean? Yeah. So... That's when he just stands and he's like this. Right?

Yeah. When you just stand there, you're just fucking like, I'm the man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that what you feel? Um, no,

you're just waiting for the next joke. I, that means, okay, that means I did my, I did the joke right. If I get an applause break, it means I did the joke right. Because sometimes I'll get an applause break,

and then there'll be days or you know it'll be it'll be like a rare thing that a joke that got an applause break but it didn't get an applause break I'm like fuck what what did I mess up because stand-up is like even down to the word you switch one word wrong you'll miss the punch line and you won't get that applause break so sometimes it'll be like I'll tell a joke I'll do the whole thing and then I don't get the applause break they'll get I'll get the laughs like ha ha ha ha but I won't get the applause break and then the audience doesn't know but I'm pissed I'm like what the I didn't get that applause break what did I do wrong and then I go back listen to the audio and be like oh boom boom I have one joke I tell um you see it in the special but uh it took me months to figure this joke out

because it's a really dark joke and that's a challenge of mine trying to figure out how to make a joke work wait I kind of want to hear the dark joke I know it's in your special but yeah I can't tell it now. I know. Fuck. But, uh, it dark, but in what sense? Like family. The darkest you can think. Death. Death. Everything. Yeah. So, uh, so, uh, so yeah. I love dark jokes. I know. So that's the thing. It's like, if I were to tell that dark joke, just the first time I told it at an open mic, it would have killed. Bam. I go tell it at a real audience. It like, it brings down the mood. Like, oh, shit. Oh, it's one of those. It's one of those. Yeah. So I had to, I knew that it was an important joke to me, so I had to figure out how to tell it. So it took me months to do it,

but now I finally figured out how to do it where it doesn't bring the room down and people are laughing. So that's the art. What do you, what do you, I know, I mean, obviously I don't know what you're speaking to directly, but like that's why I'm asking, what is the, how do you know when you know, just because of the reaction or like how do you, how do you know what to work on? Those, those laughs per minute. So when I first told the joke, um, I would, so let's just, let's just do random numbers, right? So when I first told the joke, let's just say the laughs per minute or like two laps per minute, right? And that's no bueno.

That means that the majority of the time, they're like, ooh, ha ha ha, ha, and those laughs are probably like that. If now that I tell it, there's a laugh every 10 seconds when I tell this joke now. because I've structured it to the psychology to make them think that oh it's not as bad or not as dark as you think it is it's um it's it's it's a story that happened but let's look at the light in this story you know what I mean so it's how you tell it's how you lead up to it and everything right every word matters yeah every every every every every physical move I do matters every the the um the pitch of my voice matters yeah like that's how that's how that's how that's how like intricate telling jokes are and that's what i love about stand-up like that's what

i enjoy it's like the puzzle of trying to make this idea work so everybody else can understand well that's what i i because i really enjoy stand-up and i haven't gone to so much but i've gone to enough and i've like i told you earlier when you see a comment go on and he's like the energy is way way greater and then the guy comes up next specifically i was relating that so i watched um i went to the laugh factory and i watched chris delia and then i watched some other comedians go on. And Chris, I was just like, what? Because like, it's not the things he's saying are so much more funny than anyone else. It's like the way he says it. And I was, in my head, I'm like, obviously like, I'm not a comic. I'm just trying to understand why does this feel so

much different. Right. Yeah. So it's, I mean, obviously the delivery. He's a professional, yeah. He's mastered it all. He's mastered at all. He's mastered the deliveries, mastered the physical performance. He's mastered the story. He's mastered the structure. Facial expressions. Everything. He's mastered it at all. Yeah, because that was like, I just remember, I remember being like, I think this is one of the first times I saw a comedy show in probably years. And it was just like the whole crowd just was nuts the entire time, like the whole time that like you hear that sort of like roaring or laughing. Yeah. And then the next people come on and it was like, oh, this, like I felt embarrassed. Right.

Yeah. I was like, I feel embarrassed for this person following that. Yeah. Yeah. That's got to be like a pretty shit feeling. Yeah. That's a comic. But that thing is like, it's like.

you could see the difference between a professional and a rookie, you know what I mean? And that's, Chris is someone who's perfected his craft and there's no shortcuts.

He's perfected it by doing it so much. Yeah. And yeah, it's just like, you know, bad example. Chris DeLeah comes on. He does his thing.

The next guy comes on. He takes the mic up but doesn't move the mic stand. He's pacing, but it's nervously. So now you're not even paying attention to what this guy's saying. You're just looking at

what the fuck is happening. And that's where you don't want to be. yeah i get it yeah what what else are you are you really actively working on besides comedy oh my god it's just like the fifth plug ajevio dot com go to a jeviot dot com yeah a jeviot com nice or you can get it at a zoo culture it's also yeah it'll be at the gym yeah i liked it honestly yeah yeah did it kick in yet or not yet i think i'm also like a little sick i think you hear it in my voice yeah let me see it vitamin b2 b12 yeah yeah who helped you with the formula.

I had a chemist. Should have hit me up. What else would you put in there? Street chemist right here. I don't know about what else. Just more amounts. More amounts of what? The mushrooms.

A higher doses. The thing is, it's just so, those ingredients are so expensive. Because right now that's a $50 bottle. This is? Yeah. Yeah, mushrooms, yeah. So if I were to add more,

the price would go up a lot higher. Yeah, the corticeps and the lines main for sure. Yeah. The rosea. Those are the things that are most expensive. Yeah, it's dope, though. Like, gummies are cool. Yeah.

You take any other supplements? No. Just this shit? Mm-hmm. Oh, you're trying to get me. You really think of my steroids. He's trying to get me. He really thinking of my steroids.

How wrong? I'm glad you caught it. That was funny. No, creatine? Neatine's great, though. Yeah, creatine is natural, right? Yeah, 100%. And what does creatine do?

Creatine is really good for a ton of things in your body. Like mainly it became popular because it was like for holding water within the muscle. So like you're going to feel stronger because like you weigh a little bit more. The muscle functions better when it's more hydrated. But it's also a really powerful neurotropic as well like like Lions, man. Not the same way, but it's creatine is by far the cheapest, one of the cheapest most effective supplements that anyone could take. Really? Yeah.

And the most study is all. kinds of shit on it like it's because i remember for a while i was like oh that was a steroid when i was like 15 it's like fucking it's not even at all close to that where do you get creatine from anywhere really yeah it's the cheapest one of the cheapest most effective supplements oh shit for sure i'm making some creatine gummies which is why i saw the gummy and i was like this is a good idea yeah this is like gummies are so popular right now mm-hmm just probably do well on ticot oh yeah yeah yeah i got to get it on a ticot shop yeah you should i i know i i can introduce through the guys They're really, really good people.

To get it on TikTok shop? Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. So besides this, what else? Are you still, like, focused on movie stuff? Yeah, yeah. I made a short film called Miles Ryder a couple years ago, and they're turning that into a movie.

It's like an action film. Because I was always really impressed when I first met you. You were, out of all the content creators, because I remember I was in that time with you where it was like everyone's shooting, you know, random shit on the phone. We'd meet up and, like, shoot content. you had always at the time

literally 10 years ago you were that guy who was like you took the production so serious even then 10 years ago but everyone was like nah I do it on the camera no mics nothing like I just remember you were always that guy

who had production was like it meant so much more for some reason or I don't know I always thought you were just like a rich kid who had more money I was like where the fuck did he get out like he just got more than everyone nah that shit made me broke

yeah but I remember But it paid off, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So do you think that, I don't know, like how much of your success now, obviously your whole life amounts to where you are now, but do you still kind of like care as much, let's say, about that, like production value, whatever, as far as social media goes now, or you know it's not as important?

Because it seems so different now. Yeah, right now it's more about, you know, I've already done what I had to do back in the day. Yeah. Now it's like I'm trying to feed the engine, but try to like make sure I'm still chasing my goal, which is right now the stand-up comedy. So what I'll do is I'm on tour from Wednesday to Sunday or whatever. So when I'm out of town, I'll write a script or whatever. When I'm in town, I'll shoot content.

And I'll shoot enough content to last me that week. So like when I leave here, oh, nice. we just got another um got a couple of people who ordered a jeviot just oh wow that's that's the seventh plug yeah i'm not counting though they just yeah they just uh ordered a jevio wow oh was it on ajevio com yeah yeah that's where that's crazy uh but yeah so it's like i shoot the content right here right now uh today tomorrow and then i leave on tour we're going to detroit this weekend um and then i edit while i'm on the plane while i'm in my hotel all the down time I'll come up with new ideas.

I'll shoot them. So, yeah, that's pretty much my schedule until I shoot this comedy special. Then I'm shooting the movie Miles Ryder in January next year. And hopefully everybody goes to the theater and watches that. What production company is taking that up? Ryan Kavanaugh. Oh, okay, shit. Yeah.

Is that the trailer guy? Yeah. Oh, why did I know that? Weird. I don't know why I know random shit. Yeah. So many conversations with people. Oh, that's cool.

So, okay. So, like, is the ultimate goal to be, just like you said, that you said you want to be the biggest entertainer? Movies. So that's still it. Yeah. Intertator. So not entertainer. So you're not going to wrestle like Logan. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I just love acting. That's it. Movies and movies, TV, stand-up. Stand-up feeds the movies. What do you think, I mean, obviously besides last, which are super valuable, what do you think that, like, you want to be remembered for. I want them to remember that you, if you have a goal, you have a vision, if you focus hard enough and you block out all the negativity and you really chase those goals and those dreams, you can achieve it. No matter what your background is, because I didn't have any connections in the industry. I didn't have the finances to really make it out here.

You know, and it was all hard work, dedication, and focus. Because I've had this, like I said, this dream since I was a kid. So I've had other people who have had the same dream as me and they said, oh, we're going to do this, we're going to do this. Then I hit sixth grade, someone else fell off. They're not doing it anymore. Seventh grade, someone else fell off. Ninth grade. Ninth grade, someone else fell off. They're not doing it. 10th grade, graduate, high school, college, and all of these people fell off. And, you know, I'm the only one that's left from all those people that said they were going to do it with me out of all of them. yeah so I'm the only one that whatever happened um I blocked it out and I just kept chasing it

so the other one something something came in the way maybe they found a different passion maybe they found this maybe someone told them they can't do it maybe someone forced them not to do it but they stopped doing it um and I wouldn't let that be me why uh it's the only thing I love it's the only thing I want to do I wouldn't I couldn't see myself doing anything else like if I wasn't an actor I'd just be that crazy guy walking down the street just talking to himself being different voices and characters you know what I mean so acting is a way to control the crazy that's within me dude you're fucking stupid oh I was gonna make another joke about this but I can't too many plugs it's it's the the mushrooms got you going crazy bro they can be going crazy have you

Have you ever tried psychedelics? Uh, yeah. Oh, fuck. Have you? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I got... Big fan.

I did one and I got this, they call it downloads, right? Yeah. That's the... I mean, yeah, whatever. When you, yeah, start to see things. So, um, I did, uh, there was this, I saw myself as a 90-year-old man, right? Looking back at my life. Like, say I was telling my grandchild, blah, blah, blah, I'm sitting by the fire, telling

stories and I and I told him um yeah he's a boy um I told him that uh he's he asked me like yo what about life did you learn I was like I learned that there's going to be people in your life that you may be stressed out about you may be angry you may hate you may do all this and I was like uh let's say a random name Kyle it's like yo I had I hated Kyle like he was my biggest enemy but Kyle was only in my my life for three years. Three years, he passed away or something. He moved away. But I really hated him for those three years. I'm 90 years old now. Those three years was such a fragment of my life that it meant it didn't need to affect me the way that it affected me because it was so small

in my life. So I learned that if there is something that is bothering you, do your best to try and just avoid the situation, make the situation out of your life, or just focus on the positive. Now is one of the things that I kind of, you know, got from that. So, yeah. Teach you how to, like, let go or something kind of. Yeah. Let you know that what's really important. Focused on the things that are important and are positive rather than putting your energy in the negative and the things that are stressing you out. Sometimes I feel like it's important, though, to like be in that moment, not like stay in that moment. Right. Yeah. But to be in that moment to like actually process it because some people I know myself personally like

were there's moments that I would like just completely avoid but then they would keep it would keep affecting my life in new scenarios because I never really like sat with it and was like okay this is where I'm at right like accept this not like say this is my life now but to be able to actually really move through it right yeah you know yeah but that's that's significant so you got that you were you remember how much um mushrooms you had taken no I've only done a microdose I haven't done like a four. Oh, you did it on a micro dose? Yeah. Holy shit. Wow. Damn. But like I said before, that's why I take a Jevio because I'm really sensitive. Oh my God. That's number eight. Holy shit. They're going to troll so hard about this episode.

I wasn't paid to do this by the way. I just thought it's funny. And no, I appreciate you coming on though, bro. Of course. You have some more in there for me? What's going on? I'm keeping this one, by the way. No, I was just going to give you the payment. You said you wanted to the little Javio. Yo, just give me $20. You said you wanted for the Antibio. plug right yeah right that's what he said he said 20 dollars you're talking about a jeviot no no that's fucking no bro 20 dollars is insane oh so this is what i've been doing for my diet oh no no no this ain't i don't even know who these people are okay so i've had recently i've been having like the sugar

craving right bro yeah i can't take you serious this ain't a plug i can't take you serious i can't take you serious Fuck this company. I don't even know who they are. All right. Go ahead. Like, really fuck this company. I don't know who they are. But shit's good, right?

So I was like, fuck, yo. I want to have carbs, right? I want to eat cake. I love cake. I love three steaches. I love it. So good. So I started to do that and I noticed like the difference in my body, like the bloating.

And it wouldn't last long because I would just work it off, right? Yeah. So I got to the point was like, I don't want to be working out as hard. So I was just like, oh, I went on Amazon. I typed in keto snacks. So, and of course, like, you know, that comes out. But, um, but yeah, what do you do for your diet? Fuck, dude.

I've been doing it for such a long time that, like, I've kind of just got it down. Yeah. Right. You eat carbs and stuff? Yeah. But if I was like, okay, I want to look specifically this way, then, like, I would probably carb cycle. I wouldn't cut him out completely because if I cut them out completely, I just get really flat.

Yeah. And then the muscles don't look, you know, the whole goal is like, like you wanted to look more full, at least when you're dieting. Well, not when you're dieting, but like if I'm trying to do it for some effect, right? And for me, I just noticed that like the cycling of it where I'll intermittently basically based on a workout or based on like a high intensity, something, whatever I'm doing, I'll keep my carbs around that, whether before and after. Right.

And typically when I start a diet, like it would always be like, how do I describe harder than easier? So let's say if I first started, I would keep the, carbs only after my workout. What does that do? Meaning like so your body is more sensitive when it's when it's like pushed to some sort of limit right your muscles are more more sensitive to uptaking the nutrients in a positive way instead of you know building fat etc just using it more efficiently. This is like when I first start a diet and then depending on how much I've been eating or how my diet's been going or how I've been feeling or how I've been performing in the gym

I'll then be like, okay, if I need more carbs and I'll have them, if I need to have another carb meal, I have it like right before my workout and then right after. And then if I still feel like I'm slow or I'm dragging mentally, because like that was the thing for me. I was kind of making funny of you earlier as far as like your brain is the one thing truly does operate from sugar. And obviously with you, when you're in ketosis, it will convert those into sugar for your brain to use for fuel. But I just noticed for me, it's like if I go from like the harder to easier, meaning like as hard as possible, then like it's slow. let up as far as like what I say easier meaning add the carbs more throughout the day yeah

but in strategic placements right right so that my body's more sensitive yeah to taking the nutrients the way that need to right and that works really better for people who have a harder time overall like losing weight because like you know like a lot of people they're like they'll train then they'll be afraid to they'll be afraid to like put on weight after they lost weight because if they're like they're gonna get fat again yeah so it's all about nutrients in timing instead of just like overall most people talk about macros where they're like yo i'm going to eat you know x amount of macros for the day and then it doesn't count for like what types of macros they're eating they're just as long as i'm hitting these numbers that's what

matters and it is true to a degree but people are a little like can become a little more sensitive when it's like harder for them to like build muscle because they're afraid that they're going to build back fat because they had lost fat prior or whatever so right um for me personally though it's just like it sounds fucked up but like I don't even think about it anymore because it's so auto really yeah it's so autopilot for me it's like you gotta give me your diet am I eating enough food am I drinking enough water am I training hard enough that's what I focus on I don't really eat shit like this not good huh some of it's good some of it's bad but is this a good cheat meal for me for ketosis yeah yeah I mean I don't know enough about because it it it

It really, it craves, it satisfies my sugar craving. Do you check your ketones? You actually do that? No, I just make sure I don't eat any sugar. You never pee on the sticks? No, I just pee on bitches. Nice. You know, we know you went to those parties.

Now we got them. We got them confirmed. No, man, it's, it's, you should try that, like, for a week. Just, like, get the little ketone strips and then pee on them and then see, like, where you're actually at, numbers-wise. Because then you, you'll know, like, if you ate and then you ate this, like, half an hour, and then you peed on a stick. I know it sounds crazy what I'm saying, peeing on a stick.

but so for the audience there's little ketone strips that you can pee on for like people who are like diabetic or pre-diabetic they're testing their blood sugar and it'll show you like a really accurate measurement of what it is without pricking yourself basically um but you would know if you ate this and 30 minutes later if it was like fucked up then it either took you out or kept you in it oh wow that'd be the best way to check the easiest way without poking your fucking blood and testing your blood okay um but yeah i wouldn't know because i've never tried it but it seems like if i'm reading it, it seems pretty legit. Yeah. They're definitely making you shit though. Yeah, because of the fiber. Yeah. So I'm curious about

that too. So it'll be like it'll have, let's just say 10 grams of carbs, but then five grams of fiber. Does that, and it says net carbs five. Is that true? Yeah. It is because they're basically saying that like it's, it's canceling out the other. Right. But, you know, they're still eating carbs. But right. You know, I, is it affecting your blood sugar the way that like if you just ate the cars without any of the fiber no right but then again it's tough when you talk about products like these because a lot of that stuff is true like in nature but this is like nature it's like created it's like how do we know if it's really that the same as like if you ate fucking broccoli and you know sweet potatoes how the fiber is affecting itself right

and the digestion because this is just a bunch of shit smashed together right it's a little different but it's in theory in theory is like a good thing and at the end of day you you would only know what really worked for you if you, like, you said, those P-shirts would be really helpful. And if you did that, it would just make you super crazy about it. You probably get, you probably be super lean all the time and then just be a psychopath. I don't know if you want to do that. Don't go find the key toast shows. I actually, I imagine out that I told you you're probably going to do that. Yeah, I'm going to do it. Yeah, I see you doing that. I'm going to go on Amazon. Yeah. Well, brother, I appreciate you coming on. Thanks for having me.

Yeah, congrats on the product. Thank you. It's dope. It tastes good. Nice little pack. Thank you. It doesn't look tacky. And if you guys go to zoo culture, you'll not only be supporting me, you'll be supporting him too. Because he's going to make money off of it as well. Yeah, if you come and get it there. I'm going to, I'm going to, where's the warehouse at? It's in Miami. Oh, fuck. Nice. I'm moving to gym Miami. Oh, you are? Yeah, so we'll have one in Miami's here. We'll put it there too. Yeah. You got to come to the gym more, man. Yeah, I know. I did that thing with neon. How did you get, how'd you get linked up in that? Um, he asked me to do his uh he asked me to do something like a couple months ago and i was just on tour so i was just

like it happened to be like a monday or tuesday and then he was like oh let's let's just hang out on this and do some shit yeah cool right on well anything else you got anything else you want to that's it ajevio dot com perfect this this has been brought to you by a javio dot com appreciate you coming brother thank you thank you yeah it's a blessing