RAWTALK - Lean Beef Patty's Biggest Secret & How To Pick Up Girls In The Gym

Episode Date: March 1, 2023

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Oh, this is exciting. This is exciting because I'm taking some advice from the audience, but I need to have more women on the podcast. Oh, okay. It's a very male dominant podcast so far. It's like sometimes an echo chamber, you know, because me and my brothers talk about things and we're like, yeah, I get you. Lean B, Patty.

Yes, thank you for having me. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for coming. Where did you get that name? Well, my name. Like, honestly. My name is Patricia. Yeah.

I knew that, but like, where did you create, like, why did you create lean beef patty? So I actually don't remember specifically. It was in 2020, and one of my friends will claim that, like, he made it up, but I was like, did you though? Because I don't think you did, but. Is the idea like a lean beef patty? Like a... Yeah, like, it's like a pun. Got it.

You know, it's like a little hamburger patty, and it's lean beef, and because I'm lean and a little bit beefy. I actually didn't want lean beef because I was like, that's going to, like, limit me to, like, always have. to be lean but all beef patty or whatever else I was thinking of was already taken like by a hamburger company so I was like oh my god so interesting um so let's let's kind of die right into what you just said about the idea of always having to be lean just based on a um like your social media handle did you have that idea like like of how to be on social media prior to like ever getting on it because to think that like obviously I could say that looking back now on my whole career but for you to say that right like because you're pretty new in the space you're

not super like you haven't been doing it forever right so did you like see that there would be importance in not limiting yourself like just the fact that you said that is interesting to me i mean i already have a lot of just like past experience of like being very body conscious yeah and like whatnot so that did kind of strike me immediately of like If my name is lean and I'm not lean. Yeah. It doesn't, you know. You've had issues in the past with like, what, the way you look or the way?

Yeah, just like body dysmorphia and whatnot. I had like an eating disorder for a while when I was younger. So I'm very like aware. I'm always trying to get your age. It's so funny. Aware. Yeah. So you don't tell anyone your age?

No. Okay. I'm always trying to like get enough information. I'm so curious. That's the thing. It's like once you tell them they can't know, they're like, ah, I have to know. A lot of people.

It's not that important. But what I'm more interested in is your dysmorphia and your relationship to it. Was it before social media or after or? Oh, well before. Well before. Yeah. I think like the, I can remember the exact day.

I was like body aware. I was 13. And it was the summer. It was like a warm summer day. The year? Oh, I don't remember. Sorry, we're stopping. I'm stopping.

I was 13. standing there in shorts, and I felt my legs at the top, like, touched together. Oh, like the thighs. Yeah, and for, like, a 13-year-old girl, usually, like, a thigh gap is, like, something that they find is desirable. 13-year-old girls think that? Yeah. Really?

They're trying to get thigh gaps? Yeah. Oh, man. Okay. Anyway, so I was like, oh, my God, I don't have a thigh gap. So then I was like, wah, eating disorder. So what did you, what did that look like? Are you binge eating?

Are you throwing up? Are you, like, what's the disorder? It started more so, like, restrictive. Yeah. And then it was so restrictive, so fast that, like, it was just very visually obvious that something was wrong with me. Yeah. So then I had to, yeah, go to the doctor.

I've literally been there when I was 18. Like, my dick stopped working everything. I was like so, I've told the story on the podcast before, but I was so focused on, like, thinking I was being healthy through, like, my eating habits and my activity, but I was doing way too much and eating, like, literally nothing in comparison. And, like, it put me in a position where. I'm like waking up every night like going to pee like every fucking 10 minutes my body's like eating itself and uh I ended up going to a doctor and he looks at me and he's like are you like are you

okay like because of my face must have been sunk and I was super lean like I look cool 18 I like look shredded and I had like a vein from like you know my lower hip to like ran up under my chest it look cool but I was so obsessed with like having to look like that that it like literally destroyed like my sex drive. I destroyed my hormones. Like I said, I went to a doctor and he tried to give me like Viagra. I didn't have taking it, but like I ended up like, he said, you should probably start eating more. And then that's when I was 18 when I really learned about hormones, the body, nutrition and all this stuff. So I guess you're 13, you experienced this. My question is like, where along the way were you like, I'm going to be into fitness and working out? Because obviously

at 13, the thigh gap, I'm assuming you weren't just like in the gym. Ben's pressing or anything but when did you decide that I'm going to be um I will call it's kind of corny but an influencer in the space and when did you decide like you really wanted to do it and why was it important for you um because you've definitely taken on like you're you know most I guess sorry I interrupted you to answer that question but most most women um maybe actually it seems like more so now there's a lot more that are coming that are like liking to be a little bit more jacked, you know, a little bit more muscular. And more women are seem to be embracing that. I think probably because a lot of people like you are also showing them that that's like

fucking cool. But where along your line were you like, this is important to me? Not like well into the line, I guess. Because I did start working out fairly young just because like after I quit doing my childhood sports, I was like, I need to be active or else like I'm not doing anything. It was like 100 to zero. Yeah. But I didn't necessarily want to be muscular. I really wanted to be skinny just like at the beginning when I was in that phase. But the way that I was working out was not the way that you work out to be skinny, if that makes sense. Like I was working out like I was going to build muscle. So I built muscle. So would you say you're working out what like a power lift or like a bodybuilder? Like what was your like typical thing? I think back then it was like

kind of like bodybuilding, but I didn't really know what I was doing, but I was just working out so hard. Like, I built muscle without really wanting to. And it's just because you like, you enjoyed it so much? I enjoyed the activity. I didn't necessarily, like, that wasn't my desired result, but I enjoyed the process so much. Yeah. Yeah. And you just kind of got caught up in. You're like, oh, shit, now I'm kind of getting jacked. I'm just going to ride this wave or like, when did it transition into me being like, excuse me, me, you being like, oh, this could be a thing on the internet and like I can do this and like was it always a part of your working out like because I know a lot of people nowadays literally work out for social media. I'm not saying

you do that but a lot of people are like I'm going to start working out so I can become popular on social media. Was it like that or were you just like this is something I'm doing because I need this? Like what's your personal connection to working out? More so the latter. There was a really long period of time where people like oh you should like start like an account and I was like I don't want to do that like I don't want to share that part of my life with anybody else like it's very it's my little time you know to be private and I enjoy working out and I don't want anyone else to be involved but then it was recently in like 2020 when I wouldn't like that whole thing happened you know I don't know like what we're

allowed to say say whatever you want oh when like the pandemic happened yeah and then um the P. Demi that's what we call it when the P. Demi get went down yeah It changed a lot for a lot of people. It did. And so then I was like, I'll just post my thing. So I started a separate account from like my just normal social media

because I was like embarrassed. I was like, I don't want my friends and family to see this. That's funny. So I started a separate one so like no one would find out about it. Like I didn't tell anybody. And I was like when people would find it,

I'd be like, that's like so embarrassing. Like I was embarrassed. Yeah. Yeah. And then I just kind of. Well, were you embarrassed them just because like you were like people, you think people would,

judge you. I'm, like, such a private person. Yeah, which is crazy because you're doing this podcast. Yeah. Because I got to ask all those deep questions. I mean, I guess I'm just selective and I just choose weird things to be private about. The people are like, that doesn't matter. And I'm like, it matters to me though. Like, I don't care about sharing my mental health, but I care about this one other tiny thing that like nobody else cares about. Yeah, no, I can get you. It's fair. So what about your mental health? Do you deal with mental health struggles? I mean, yeah. You said you went right to that. So obviously that's something you probably share with your audience. I just brought that up more so like with the like eating this sort of thing.

Right. The other things I don't like talk about that much because I don't know. What other things? Like the things that I feel like almost everybody struggles with. Yeah. That's fair. It's just like one of those people is like yeah, we all having, because I'm a fucking big pussy when it comes to like anxiety and all that kind of stuff. I always like sounds. Seems like I'm always fucking complaining about it. Obviously I'm grateful for the position that I'm in. I think those things that really challenge us mentally also make us, it can make us better if we allow them to. But a little bit back to the body dysmorphia stuff,

when did it stop becoming like a thing? When did you first notice you were like, like obviously 13, you had that phase and then you must have kept kind of working out or started to work out or didn't work out and then found it? The working out didn't really like help anything, I'll be honest.

There was only one period of time that I was like, I really like the way that I look. Like I'm comfortable. that's fucking hilarious considering and that was in 2020 i feel like people had two experiences they were either like this is a horrific year and like everything terrible is happening or they were like i'm in bliss because all of my anxieties everything's out of my hands like the world is burning and nothing matters and i was on that end oh you were on that end interesting so

and so so you get into you get into training you get into like doing social media stuff You know, you make your little count because you don't want other people to see it. And then it starts to take off. And how fast does it take off? Pretty fast. For TikTok, it happened. The first thing that I posted kind of blew up overnight. I posted it on like a Friday, 12 a.m.

I had the Instagram first. And I was like, making reels is a pain in the ass. I don't want to make them. They're so annoying. But this other app is two birds with one stone. I can just export it on Instagram. And it's like a reel. so that's what I did just I don't have that many activities that I do so it wasn't doing anything it's

the night on Friday so I did like a little stretching routine and then I went to sleep and then I woke up the next day and I was like oh my gosh there's like 100,000 views I was like that's a lot of people yeah so then I what do you what do you think people like about you um I don't know I really I've yeah I don't know really even your content I mean I could say some things why but like I'm curious what you think I'm not I didn't ask you that question as like some loaded fucking question. I'm just genuinely curious, like, why you believe people are engaging with you. I think there's, like, a few different kind of, like, sectors of my audience. Yeah. There's, like, the people that just like the way that I look, like, you're this entity

that is, like, visually appealing to me. So I like this. And then sometimes I feel like I post some content that's, like, kind of useful for, like, people. You do. That's what I notice a lot. Thank you. So I feel like there's the people that like that like feel that they're gaining some sort of knowledge. Yeah. And then another one. And there's all the trolls. Yeah. So, yeah, someone else. There's all the shiths who are like, you, you, why are you so jacked? Yeah. It's funny because I look at your photos and like you, and I'm not saying you're fucking, your catfish or anything, but like you're really good at taking like you look super jacked. Not that you don't look super jacked, but you're actually a smaller girl. You're not like a big girl. And I think people,

probably women probably see you and they're probably like, wow, she's so. so big but you're like not like you're not yeah I'm not you're definitely muscular but you're like you're small like how tall are you 5 3 yeah you're small you're not like because I see your pictures that I saw your pictures before I ever met you and I was like this shit's fucking huge another thing that I think kind of contributes to at least like originally like now a lot of people take pictures in a similar and I don't know how they were doing it before but like a similar fashion to how I do it they do it the way like that I do it and I do it like that I do it like that because to me taking pictures like that

is kind of like art. Yeah, yeah. So like those pictures are my art. Yeah. So that's why it's like the aesthetic is super important and it's like ridiculous and I look six foot and my body's twisted and like no waist. And it's like I do that on purpose

because I think it looks cool. No, I get it. I get it. It's awesome. You definitely found a lane. Like you've definitely really done that fast. Really fast. I'm just, I guess what do you enjoy the most about all this now?

Like, because this is a real thing because I've been doing this for so many years. that it has completely changed my relationship to working out. Has being on social media changed your relationship to actually lifting and training and has it affected it in any way? Yeah, I think I've gone through like a little bit of a couple phases almost

where like there's a few months where I was just like, working out used to be I go after work or I go after I do something else and it's like a stress relief whereas it became like this is the one thing that I have to do. So like this is this is this. the job now. So as they say, like once you make something you love like into your job, a lot of times it kind of takes the fun out of it. Yeah. So there was like, but it's funny because

people also say, if you love what you do, you never work a day in your life. Well, it doesn't work like that for everyone. Yeah, no, no, for sure. I agree. I agree. Especially working out. That's one of those things that's like, especially if you use it as a time, like your time of solace. And now it's like, now this is something I have to do in order to sustain all this other stuff or these other expectations. It does change it. It really does. And not, and obviously I'm not complaining I think it's a great burden to carry to be able to, like, make that your job, make that your living. I guess have you, has it taught you anything about yourself that, like, maybe you didn't

know? Like, the idea of, clarify this question for you, the idea of having to do something that you love to make money. Because, like, for example, I'll give you an example. I started to try to do Twitch because I love video games. I'm a huge nerd, right? So I love playing video games. I'm like, oh, I can turn this into a business.

I started to do it. And then I was like, wait a minute. This is now, like, completely taking the fun out of, like, this thing that I just enjoyed as a pastime my whole life to, like, try to, like, make it a business or make it money. So has it, has it affected, like, your love for it at all? Or is it just, like, still solid? Um, I mean, just the waves. Like, recently I'm on a pretty good wave.

I don't know what's been going on, like, emotionally, but I've been, like, extra angsty. So I'm like, oh, you know, like, I'm having a great time. when I work out but like a few months ago it was not like that at all and I was like struggling to get through each workout and I was like I hate this like I don't want to do this at all but like you said though like not to be ungrateful like I'm so incredibly for sure yeah do you do you have do you have like has it affected any relationships like has it strained any of that like not like I'm not saying interpersonal ones like with someone you're dating but just in general

friendships has it has it shown anything different because it's it's so interesting talking to you because you're so new in it the last few years that like I really am curious that like I really am curious because you kind of did you almost did you grow up in the social media age where like you grew up with like a tic talk and people you know growing up with like instagram and because instagram is like you know 11 12 years old where you like a little kid with instagram before was a thing it was there yeah but i didn't use it like my friends aren't really like that on social media like even still like they really don't use social media my best friend her one of her like things she hates is like being filmed and like being captured in any way or like being recorded I'm like

man you're so funny I wish that you like that because I feel like you because she's funny she's so funny yeah but she just but as soon as you turn on the camera she's like like she'll freak out so I'm just like yeah I mean shit that's how I was before I started like making content but yeah to answer your question I didn't really use social media I'd post maybe like twice a year and it would be like when I had like a random idea for a picture and then I'd make the picture and then I'd post it and then my 30 friends would like it and then that would be yeah the reason I ask is because obviously like you know if you grow up in it and people have and you use it and I wonder if people change their like perception or treatment of you like when you started to come up and like

started to get followers where people treating you differently um like because like also it always starts where people are like no it's just stupid you know it's corny influencers is fucking lame Yeah, some people, like, will approach me and, like, have that really, like, I don't even know who you are. It's like, I don't care. Like, why would you say that to another person, like, to my face? Wait, who, who, well, now, hold on. Who comes up to someone and says, I don't know who you are? It's like, wait a sec.

Clearly you're saying this on purpose, motherfucker. Yeah, I was just like, that's like you're making this experience for us really awkward. That's what I always, you know, and I always, I'll go places and, like, dudes will be like, yo, my friend's a big fan. Could I get a photo? It's like, bro, just take a picture. Yeah, those things like that. It's like, thank you to your friend, you know, like, I don't know. Yeah.

It's just like interesting. So like, do you enjoy all this stuff like thoroughly? Like what do you think about this social media and this fitness industry specifically? I mean, this far I'm enjoying it. I think the fact that like as an industry, just like historically, in general, is very new. Like having something like this. So that kind of freaks me out. and that like there's no guidance really like how to do things and like how to be successful

and how to be like you've done a great job of like building great businesses and whatnot but in general it's like it doesn't work out like that for everybody yeah no so it's kind of scary it's super brand new still yeah definitely i feel like i was one of the first people doing shit besides like the rich pianas and the people prior um rip to a legend but is there anyone then i guess on that on that note is there anyone that you've looked to that has like kind of like shown you the way or inspired you were like help you want to you know continue doing this or try different things anyone in specifically not really because before when i would use social media i didn't really consume a lot of fitness content or i didn't really like watch a lot of youtube uh or like when i would watch

other things it would be specifically true crime videos on youtube where they just you know they have like the stick figures and they animate the true crime house like yeah you know so like that's what I watch so like not really anywhere to like gain guidance but now I do try to look around what other people are doing but I see I don't know how business savvy of a person I am like I don't have all those back end things managed so I'm kind of like yeah yeah so do you do you find that it makes it harder for you or is it something you're looking for or is something like you want to figure out because like what do you I guess where do you go with all this because I mean you have a massive audience a huge audience and are you like do you want to build businesses within the space like

are you looking to do that or is it just like I'm just posting photos and seeing what happens um I would like to build a business it's just like what do I build like what am I so passionate about that like I want to do yeah so figuring out those things yeah Have you always just done things that they're just super passionate about? You've never really just tried things? I've definitely just kind of tried things, like, for jobs. Yeah. Did some random things.

And they were fun just because they were so random. Yeah. Speaking of random, what do you think? This is a random question, but I just want to get your opinion on this. I was talking with my buddy, Hasanavi, on his actual live show. We were talking about you on a podcast. but we were also talking about the TikTok this whole like women recording men and like being like you creep and now it's recently that's become such a thing it's been a really finish your sentence

yeah no no yeah it's been this big like I don't know people are making a bunch of jokes about this now because it got so far that there's like videos my buddy Shulk did a video where he was like it was actually really funny where the girl's like struggling and it's from their perspective where the girl's struggling like help help like on a squat and he's like no dude I've seen this don't do it trust me and then like she's she's laying flat in the squat bars above her and he like finally goes to pick it up and she gets up she's like you creep you're looking at me like I'm putting this on my TikTok like so it's got to that to extent where everyone's like making fun of this and I did a dumb video where like I'm I poured water my head out it looks like I'm sweating there's like a girl

like with her butt out and I'm like trying not to look but but do you think that like and I obviously I know there's merit because in this in the case like it's I'm sure there are situations in which women are like, yo, this is like making me uncomfortable. And then there's cases where it's like, you know, like this one chick specifically what happened was she tried to make it look like this guy was really trying to be making her uncomfortable. And it was just like really spun out of proportion. And the chick did say sorry, but we were talking about on the podcast. But as a woman and as a lifter in the space, do you ever experience that kind of stuff? Have you experienced that kind of stuff? Like someone being like, I mean, obviously you're in a gym.

Dudes are probably going to come hit on you. But have they ever been like overly creepy where you're like what the fuck i think just like me as a person i'm so just like unaware of a lot of things and like i'm like i used to be super naive i'm still kind of naive in a lot of senses but i'm also very just like not the sharpest tool in the shed sometimes like you know so there's been like a few instances where it wasn't. Did you want to say oblivious? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Oblivious. That's what I was feeling. And there's like sometimes there's been quite a few times where it's not to like it's a little bit too late or like till after. I'm like this is really weird. Like it just got like super weird. But. So what do you do? Like give us an

example. Okay. I have. Because you're going to say names, nothing, but give us an example. I'm not going to say names. Um, I'll use like a kind of. recent one. Yeah. There was like this person, a man at the gym and he was talking to me, I think he was like trying to offer me like a job or something, which was like whatever. Okay, some of them I can't like, I know it's kind of maybe rude to like assume someone's sexuality, but like I kind of thought that he was not straight.

It's fair. Yeah, so I was like, yeah. You thought he was gay. Who cares? It's fine. I was just like, you know, it's just like an old gay man talking to me. Because, like, the way he was talking and, like, his voice? Maybe he was, like, retro-sexual.

Yeah, okay. He was, like, that. He had, like, a hoop earring. He didn't, but he was, like, an older guy. I don't know. I'm just fucking around. Obviously, I'm fucking around. You could have a hoop earring and I'll be gay.

But, no, I'm curious, like, what about him? Were you like, he's just kind of flamboyant? Like, just like the way he carried himself, yeah. And, like, stories that he would tell me about, like, his younger years. I was like, is that, like, a, I don't know. How much conversations you have with this guy? We've had a couple conversations. Okay, fair.

So you thought... I tried to be cordial, you know, when someone's... So you thought he was gay, so you're like, no problem having this conversation. Yeah, and a couple times, like, asked me if I wanted to get coffee or, like, to get dinner or something. And I was like, maybe he's trying to, like, convince me to get this job, I don't know. And then there was this one time where, like, we went to leave. And maybe it was, like, a gay thing. I don't know.

But, like, he went to, like, give me a hug and, like, kind of, like, kiss me on the cheek. I was like, oh, my God. It's a gay thing or a French thing? I don't know, but he's not French. Okay. So there was that. There's also been other times where like. Like a full on kid.

Not like one of those side kisses where you kissed to the side. He like kissed your cheek. It was like kind of enough for me to be like, what was that? You know? It's just to be like drawn it back and be like that was not a normal activity. One time I said this story once on one of my older YouTube videos, but one of the weird stim experiences I've had. I was getting ready to go to the gym.

There's this guy. rolling up. I'm just assuming he was homeless or down on his luck because he had two giant trash bags full of clothing and he was riding his bike. One of the bags breaks. All his stuff in front of the gym. Yeah. And I'm the only person there. And so I kind of feel bad for him and the stuff's everywhere. And he's like, can you please watch my stuff? Like I'm going to go get another bag. And I was like, no problem. Like I'll watch your stuff. So I stand there. He finds another bag and he comes back. How long did that take? Like 10 minutes. You're standing there for 10 minutes over some bags and like a bike?

Yeah, I mean. Wow, that's a solid person. Yeah, so I was like, good deed for the day. I go into the gym. He's like, oh, thank you so much. I'm like, yeah, have a good day. I go into the gym. I'm working out out of the corner of my eye, this guy.

He's bench pressing the backs. That's all I see coming. No, but he reappears, and he's approaching me. And I was like, what's happening? And he comes over. He puts something. I like the way you smell. He puts something in my hand, and then he goes, and he kisses my hand.

and I was stunned I was stunned I was like what just happened wait he put something in your hand and then he like grabbed my hand to like put like a note in it and then he kissed my hand like yeah like that was like I'm like here's my note yeah and I was like oh my god wow I opened the note and it was his phone number I was like um also this guy it was just like it was weird you know that's strange yeah that's strange I've had a lot of kissing guys a lot Like a lot of guys kissing, unconsensual kissing. Oh my God. It's kind of fucking funny.

So like I've had those actual like, to me, those are weird experiences. There's never been once where I felt like someone personally was like looking at me and like I was like so upset about them looking at me. Like if anything, it's like if I feel that they're doing that, I'm going to walk away. But like that's just like what I'm going to do. But also I've never felt like that. Yeah. So you've never felt like, oh, someone's just looking at me.

This is weird. You just had people literally kiss you. Yeah. Which is probably weird. So maybe I missed a couple steps. Like maybe something else was happening. They went. They were going straight for the finish line.

That's pretty crazy. I was like, that's, wow. That's fucking insane. Well, okay, off that note, we'll try and go past that. In the gym, like, what are your favorite workouts for girls? Because hopefully a lot of girls will click on this because I know you have like a severe, like an actual dope audience that loves to kind of. of content that you make so for you obviously you probably get asked this question tons of time

in person let's just tell the internet first and foremost like what do you do what do you train how do you train um bodybuilding still power because i saw you look pretty heavy i was doing kind of like a powerlifting program for a while the last month and a half i've been doing more like a hypertrophy bodybuilding type program but it was like weird I did someone program because I would like program myself and then my friend was programming me and then I would like do or yeah just my own stuff but I decided to just like get someone else's so I don't want to say who it is because it was like weird it was like I wasn't used to that kind of lifting so I was like I don't like this at all but I was like I started it so I'm going to finish it yeah so it's

like bodybuilding bodybuilding so you you would say it's important to follow a program for sure because I know Jacob's like heavy on that my following program yeah yeah he like lifts it's fucking 135 and he's like I gotta do four reps of this because it's like my RPE or something I respect no I honestly I really respect it because that's how you make progress no yeah I know I know that's what I've done that's what I asked you the question is for years it's like I've just been like I'm strong so I do strong guy shit and then I'll do random shit and then like I'll keep trying to get strong but like obviously I know use periodization like you kind of like hit walls like unless you like have that kind of structure to go up and go down go up and go down you just

like train high train for years it's just like pretty much just trying to be strong all the time you kind of hit a wall so for you you you've always followed a program no uh the majority of the time especially in the beginning i was random stuff just like a full like a two and a half hour full body workout every single day it was just like a lot of stuff and i just wasn't eating right at all um and then i started doing kind of more like push pull legs and then i started like just doing legs and then I started doing classic classic classic girls just like guys of reverse is like just doing upper body yeah um back and chest and then I started doing like programs which I feel like it kind of depends on your goals like especially for me in the beginning I was working out just

because I like to work out like I didn't care about looking a certain way I didn't care about lifting certain weights I just genuinely liked moving my body like that so for what about it you like so much it's like you get to like be exerting a lot of emotion but like without actually having to do that i don't know if that makes sense yeah like you don't have to scream but it's like an internal scream yeah that's deep that was dope that was dope i felt that shit i'm gonna go the gym after this man fuck sounds like you're going through some shit i feel like i'm I'm going through some shit right now. But what have you gone through?

Have you gone through anything? Any really trying times in your life besides the body dysmorphia? I feel like a trying time is kind of subjective. Of course. For me, maybe I'm sensitive. I don't know. I feel like I've been going through trying times. But if you tell like someone else, they'll be like, they'll give you some horrible story.

And then I'm just like, oh, well. Yeah, like mine was not that bad. Yeah, I was like, okay. Yeah. Well, what do you struggle with the most then? would you say um really just like existential things like life and the existence of it and your relationship to it yes wow that's fucking yeah i feel that yeah so are you afraid of death um i don't think i'm afraid of death i'm afraid of living my entire life and looking back on it and like

being old and like i know it's over and then being like that sucked like i know it sucks like I don't know. You're afraid of ending up like that. Yeah, in psychology, there's like stages of development and you can like fail a stage of development. And the last stage is when you're old and it's either being satisfied or being unsatisfied with your life. And I don't want to be that unsatisfied person

when I'm like old. That's fucking deep. How long you struggle with that? It's like my life right now. Is it? Yeah. For like a while or just recently? Just for a while.

Oh, damn. No, there's just things. in my life I'm figuring out I'm working on you know I'm good at this business shit very good personal life intimate relationship stuff had a rocky time with for sure um but I'm asking you because like I just think it's is important for people to share this kind of shit because I think a lot of people just don't talk about things that are like this because it's easier to just talk about working out and whatever gym bro shit that people are used to talking about because it's the surface level but I'm really curious like did that start at any specific time in your life

because you don't just wake up your kid you're like man existential problems this sucks yeah definitely as a child it was easier not to have that because your path at least for me the way that I viewed it was very like cut in stone like I go to school I do my school I graduate school and yeah then I do my little sport afterwards and like my life is very has a path yeah structured yeah and then after you don't have those things anymore it's kind of like what am I I doing? Like what is the purpose? What has meaning? And I personally think each person has to determine that for themselves. But if you're unable to determine that or you're questioning like the value, it's really hard. I really appreciate what you said though. Because I think a lot of people

really, really get to that point at some point in their life, normally in their early 20s where they're just like, what the fuck am I doing? Even if sometimes they're doing things that they think they want to be doing, they're also still in the back of their mind being like, is this what I want to be doing though? like you're still learning like I couldn't I can't look back on that time of my life and be like I knew exactly my path I was just kind of doing things that I liked and I just kept doing more of them and it just turned into like all this shit that I have today but there was no like path I wasn't seeing other people do it it was like I'm just going to do things that I liked and at the time I was like a trainer and I like working out and I like talking to people and I like

trying to understand my clients at the time because I was like trying to understand myself and now years later it's like me talking on a podcast to people that obviously a lot of people think are fucking amazing like you're you have a huge fan base so it's like I just like learning about people and I always said this I've said this on this podcast for because I like I'm trying to like figure my shit out so I just think it's important for more people to share that kind of stuff because it's super normal like to have that thought because even if you have like you have all the success you all these likes all this you know everyone's like oh lean beef so cool all this shit right but it's like if you can't find that that solace in yourself and like

who you are what you're doing and like the importance and your purpose in life it's just like it all can kind of mean nothing it all can kind of just like and if it starts to feel like that too then it kind of just I don't know I feel like a lot of people get in these these parts in their life where if you start to feel like you don't have a purpose like you really you really go down to like for sure I'm not saying like you're just going to go down or anything but I'm curious like have you ever like have you ever noticed a point where you're like damn this is like this is not what I want to do or I want to do something completely different or like like on your lines of am I going to be happy you know when I'm older are you on the path

right now do you think you're you're doing the things that you want to be doing or do you still question that um I still question it but not that I'm not super appreciative for like everyone rocking with me I'm like you know I love them and I feel like I have a great audience and I'm so appreciative of all of them it's more just like the nihilist in me is like no Nothing matters, like. Damn. You know, it's just like, I'm just like the purpose. Damn.

But it's like, where does that come from, though? Where do you think it comes from for you? You just always thought that? No. Was this something happened? You were like, damn. I really don't know. I don't think like one thing happened.

It's just your personality because you have dark hair or something? I'm not naturally a brunette, so I don't know. It's the blonde in me It's the blonde in you? I'm saying maybe you were like Well I'm dyeing my hair black So now it's like I got to dark Because my two other friends are also blonde

And they're gorgeous And I was like You know when there's like three of you And you're just like not the one that's like You know what I mean You're fucking funny So I was like I need to like separate slightly You wait

You're not the one that's not Like I'm not like the competing one So, like, the one that's, like, up there with the other two. So I was like, I was just... You think these other girls are, like, prettier than you? I mean, we're all beautiful in our own way. Right, but I'm saying, like, is that what you're saying? We're all beautiful in our own way.

Yeah, okay, fair. And you were like, fuck it. I'm going to take this route. Yeah. And I was just like, I have, like, dark eyebrows. So I was like, you know, maybe the dark hair will go good with the dark eyebrows. Wait, but how does that happen? The dark eyebrows?

I thought people can't have dark eyebrows if they have light hair. You can. Also, I'm not sure if this contributed, though. when I was in third grade, I accidentally shaved off both my eyebrows. They used to... Dude, what the fuck? What, what third grader is like,

oh, I'm gonna do this? It was my accident. Your parents would have been so pissed. I had like a little bit like of unibrow. No, it's like, wait. How old are we in third grade? How old are we in third grade, dude? Like 10.

You're like 10, I think. So you're like, I gotta get this shit off my head. Yeah, so it took just like a regular disposable razor. you know and I was like okay trying to get it and then I accidentally slipped and shaved off half my eyebrow I was like I have to commit so then I just shaved them both off and when they grew back they grew back looking different than they were before they used to be like straight and like lighter and then they grew back slightly curvier and dark and I was like oh what the fuck and both different shapes they're not the same but they're slightly different yeah I know you're just tripping that's just

this morphia coming through um that's so random holy shit that's like the most I've I've never heard anyone say that they were just like accidentally and i'm not going to lie actually now when i think about this it has been one of my greatest fears i cut the i cut the hair i'm like i've never want to just fuck this up and then i have to end up like that yeah i'd be on the internet and then be like dude look at this fucking idiot and it's like i didn't do it on purpose i feel like having no eyebrows now is like really popular though so i know i could you could profit upon that oh damn i could have owned that didn't conier do that i'm sure you did yeah it's like something you to do um fuck that's great man Doing this stuff like social media, fitness and shit,

has it changed your ability to create real friendships? Because I know, because in this industry, specifically this industry, not just, not just, you know, social media, but the fitness industry, it's just like people are, I think because the barrier to entry is so minimal that everyone comes in and it's a lot of people who are coming in and they're just their intention is like, money, I want to get money, because these people look like they're making money.

you can so like you find yourself in a in like a a shark pit of a bunch of people who just kind of want to take and they want to take and they want to take have you ever experienced anything where you're like oh this is this is awkward you know has it yeah I mean yeah there's been a couple times where I'm just like I don't think this person's my friend you know where like I thought like maybe they were or could have been I was like I think I misread the situation yeah yeah is it would you say would it be mostly girls or guys that you have that experience with in the industry? It's like both, I guess.

Yeah. And how do you, so how do you know? Someone's like, are they like, hey, fucking tag. Make sure you tag me. Is that the thing? There's like little things that I think a lot of people that like do this kind of notice where it's just like they're always just like always trying to create content, you know, or like always do something like that or like, yeah, they're just like get weird

with you if like you don't like repost something or like something like that. I'm like, man. Yeah. that's crazy yeah or like if you do like do something together and then it's just like weird after and it's just like oh you know like it was different before like they were more like eager to like do things and then after oh like i got my i got my nut yeah yeah yeah motherfuckers man yeah that's not that's that's normal that's normal but you like you like doing this you like the stress do you like the struggle i don't know if i say all that i mean does it do you ever get stressed out doing it like

having to do it like the need i got to post because i know that's fucking that's stressful to me yeah i do definitely also because a lot of the things that like i just do myself yeah like i have someone i have cam who helps with some of my youtube videos to like film he has nice stuff and he'll help me edit those but a lot of them i just do myself i do all the editing and everything um and the tictox and the reposting and the instagram so that can get stressful and then i also try to be like very engaging with my audience. So, like, they comment, like, I'm gonna try to comment back.

Or at least, like it. I try, I don't know about commenting back. I try and respond to DMs, though. Because comedy back is like, there's to be thousands. DMs are hard, because I've had weird, weird stuff in the DMs. And, like, personally, I'll be thinking, like, it's safer in the comment section, in public.

Because, like, who's gonna be that weird in the comment section where people will still comment be like, you guys are being weird? I'm like, you don't see anything weird. What's the weirdest thing you got in a DM? Definitely the weirdest thing, which is probably something you wouldn't expect. Is someone just sent me a bunch of pictures

that were just like very voyeur-esque? And I was like, I feel like I'm looking at something I shouldn't be looking at. What's voyeur-esque? Is that like someone's just like, look like they're naked? Like a peeping, Tom. No one was naked. No one was naked.

But like, just the setup of all of the pictures was like, I feel like you're doing something. You're not supposed to be doing. right now like you're doing something bad and they would just like send me the pictures and you know it was like it was just like weird i was like wait wait hold on what the fuck was this guy doing you made it sound like this guy like just murdered someone it took pictures of like the murder weapon that's like what it felt like and i just like opened up when i was looking at the pictures and i was like i'm gonna close it now you know i was just what do it wasn't like no one was dead no one was

naked it wasn't weird but it just like felt very icky what What the fuck? Yeah, so that was the weirdest thing, which is like something someone wouldn't expect. There's also things that people do expect. Like, dick picks. Yeah. I've got people tag me in stories, though,

where I'm like, how did that, how did, how did that happen? How did you tag me in this story? Wait, a story of their dick? Yes. Like on their Instagram, story. So I'm just like, how did that happen? It'll be like five seconds. I don't want to tell people how to do it.

No, no, no, no. You got to break this down. This is so interesting. It's like, that shit doesn't happen to me. Okay, well. Yeah, I mean, I'll get like, guys will be like, hey, bro. Like, I'll get a lot of stuff like that, but not, not so direct, which is weird. It'll be like five seconds of just like a blank screen.

And I do try to like look at when someone like uses my codes and like tags me and things. I like what they tag me in, like on the story. It'll just be like five seconds of like a blank screen and then just like a dick pick. I'm just like, how is that allowed? Yeah. It's fucking crazy. And it's also like, do guys think that sending a dick? pick is going to make a girl be like, wow, you're the one.

I think for some people, it might almost be, I don't want to say like a kink, but like something similar. Like when people like expose themselves, you know, in public. Yeah. So it's not even so much they want, they just want to do that. Yeah. I think it might be like that for at least some of the people. Yeah, that makes sense.

Anything else weird? Because that voyeur shit's really weird. You made me think this guy murdered someone. Like if I'm being honest. I think it was a child sending me these things. Wow. Yeah. That's even more creepy.

But they were weird. I was like, this kid needs to be on a list. Like, someone needs to check this kid. It's Chucky, dude. It was really weird. It was fucking chucky. Holy shit. Nothing else weird like that.

Because that, I was expecting, obviously, you know, the classic dick pick thing. Classic. But the whole, like, murderous scenario thing is really interesting. I think that's the weirdest. The rest, um, sometimes I feel bad. This is, like, something that other people, like, online figures, like, people in the industry have also told me that they've experienced. I'm like, this is really hard. and like it's really like a touchy subject to deal with but like you have to realize it's not on you

like some people will send you like a manifesto it'll be like their note you know what I'm saying yeah and I'll just be like I'm not the person to like send this to their note as far as what like professing their love to you or something like that no like they're like yeah like suicidal or something so I'm just like I'm not the person who can help you like I normally honestly because I've gotten a lot of stuff like that, but I talk about suicide, I talk about my childhood and stuff. I normally,

if I see stuff like that, I will, I will respond. I don't like, I can't give a ton. I normally just hit a voice note and just say something simple. Because like,

obviously, like you can't stop someone who's really going to want to do that. And I think a lot of times when people like say, like reach out like that, they're looking for someone to like give them a reason almost not to.

I'm not saying it's your responsibility because it's very like, that's really tough place to be in. I know I see it and I'm just like, fuck, gotta say something even if it's slight you know because it's just like why the fuck not because i've even had situations like on twitter specifically with a guy who like was straight up going to kill himself and he just like he's like a friend to me now and he was like he sends me pictures

of his daughter every birthday and he's like thank you i wouldn't be here for it was like crazy shit like that so obviously you can't save everyone you know um i i do try to just say anything back but that's yeah that's not super regular for me but i definitely understand that and I understand you're a feeling of like, well, shit, like, I don't really know what to say, I guess. Because I'm assuming you haven't, you know, you probably never, I don't know if you've ever dealt with the idea of suicide or taking your life or anything like that. So it's like, it'd be hard to give valuable input to someone who's like really on the edge, you know, except honestly the input, you could just like, hey, like, think about it a little longer. You know, that's what I would say. If you didn't know how to say anything, because that's really what it takes.

And just someone just saying that, make them be like, oh, shit, maybe they're right. know. But damn, yeah, that got deep really fast. Sorry. Just because I've, yeah, I've seen that a lot. I've seen that a lot. Um, have, have, well, what was your childhood like? You had like a great family. And I'm not trying to like create something that's not there. I'm just curious. Um, my family. Sorry. Sorry. It's like therapy session. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm curious. I'm curious. My family also in your age. Also that. My family's fantastic. My family's fan. Fantastic. I think I'm like unbelievably like blessed, lucky, whatever you want to call it that my parents are both very loving and very supportive. Like from the beginning, they were like, you got this? Throughout my childhood and then like for this too. Like my dad watches every single one of my YouTube videos. That's awesome. And then tells me like later in the week, he's like, it was so amazing and like, you know, the people in the comments are so nice. And, you know, they says that. And then my mom, she has TikTok social, she'll watch. my TikToks and sometimes she'll leave a comment and it'll always be something like silly like I don't know

it'll be something so they never doubted you with this whole internet thing I don't know yet they didn't doubt me I think I'm very lucky that they're like very supportive in anything that I do and they're like whatever you want to do you know do it yeah so yeah that's awesome yeah so what do you want to do with all this what's your goal and all this just to reach more people like what's the what's your purpose would you say I mean that's where I'm struggling with like the whole life thing yeah But I, in the content that I'm creating currently, I try to make it somewhat just helpful in general, which is why I do a lot of like the little mobility or like routines.

Like this is the work out of the day. So I don't know, helpful in some way. And then also other information that I give that like providing info to a voice. avoid misinformation. Like when I was first on the internet, looking at like fitness stuff, I'd see someone eating like X amount of calories a day and be like, I need those to look like her, you know?

So like I would try to do exactly what she's doing. So like when someone asks me like, what are your macros, like what are you eating? Like what are you working out exactly? Like how do you hit this? I'll be like, you know, some info, I just never tell them. I'm like it, it won't benefit you to know. So I'm not gonna tell you.

others like some info I'll tell them and then specify like don't base it off of this like yeah you know no for sure I mean that's one of the most common things I think and if it's honestly one of the one of the biggest like selling points that people like just rip people off on forever which is like you need this to have that if you want to look like me get this whether it be a product or just like a program and I think yeah a lot of people don't realize how specific I mean everyone is so unique and how specific the things that you might need it's not just because someone else did it you're going to to have it. So you're very smart in that point. So you try to make content that is like, hey, this is what I do. This is what I'm doing. But like, you know, try it your own way or like,

like how do you push that narrative would you say? Do you like, some of the things I think would be beneficial for anyone and they really don't have to do it super different unless they're injured. Like the mobility and things like that. Why is stretching so hard? Why does it suck? Because it's, we're not used to it. Like it wasn't like one of the things pushed. And it also like most people, it just like doesn't feel as great as like I'm lifting weights yeah getting a pump stretching is just fucking it's so important though man and it's kind of boring and sometimes it's painful and then yeah yeah fuck it just sucks man I've been stretching more though have you yeah before and after work at or no just have just that night a night yeah before I cry

myself to sleep oh yeah do you feel better I love Jacob it Jacob's dope back here. Do I feel better after crying? Yes. Oh, not after stretching. Oh, stretching. Do I feel better after stretching? Yes.

It sometimes makes you feel bad about myself because I'm like, damn, I really need to keep this up. Because I'm like not as flexible as I think I should be. Although, like, when I think about my career, I've always kind of just had natural mobility. I don't know why. I guess some people just kind of have it, which is great. But as I got older, I realized, like, if you don't use it. it you lose it you know classic i don't know if you're

that's a classic i'm trying to i'm also gazing your age with uh that's use or lose it yeah that's a 40 year old version uh version um quote from a movie before your time oh all right boys quick and orange for the podcast listen up if you guys listen we've had we've all had those nights we have a little hard time getting up we have a little bit of a trouble bro i've i've had those i've had those days where i'm not there mentally i'm not going to lie to you but rex md has got your back basically what this is you

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you started versus like now how is your either like goals or just like whole process or what you post like evolved has it been like trying to do things where you felt were very just true to you or like staying with what other people are interested in or you know yeah that's a great question um damn that's really cool so it started for sure um just doing shit that i was doing because i like when i started there wasn't like i'm going to get something from this it wasn't a it wasn't like i'm going to become an influencer because there weren't influencers i started back when like instagram first started in like 2010 late 2010 early 2011 i literally was just like i told you earlier I was a trainer just posting, you know, my client's progress.

I had abs. I thought I looked cool. I was just taking pictures. And then obviously video came. And then I was like, oh, I'm like, I also look cool and I can do cool things because I jumped out of the pool, went viral. And all those things just came about because like, that one specifically, someone was like, you see the video of BJ Penn jumping out of the hot tub?

And I was like, I can do that shit's easy. And someone was like, no, you can't. And I was like, just went to do it. So it was like just things that I was doing, training and just like showing what I was doing. And then I didn't realize it until it started. to happen and I was like oh shit like a lot of people are engaging with this stuff because it's so new um obviously an early adopter on it and then I started to obviously get to the point where I was thinking okay now that I'm getting traction how do I get more traction right I still kind of

kept just doing things that I really love which is working out training trying to be stronger trying to like do crazy lifts like kind of like unique shit and then then I started to involve lifting girls and that like really kind of took off um and then somewhere along the line like I definitely kind of fell out of love with it a little bit um for multiple multitude of reasons and you know in relationship to like my relationships in the industry with people and how I felt burnt out on certain things because I just felt kind of slighted by people and but then I started to realize like this is kind of life and how it goes and that's it was like a two year process of me being like fuck do I want to keep doing this

um even though I was very successful at the time I had just opened up the gym um this is back in 2017 but I definitely like went through these phases ups and downs as far as like my relationship to the content I always kind of kept it true to what I was doing because I could definitely say on all my YouTube content like Instagram specifically was like trying to get the views trying to get the clout right YouTube was always just kind of me just talking so it's cool now to be in a position like doing this podcast which is like not really fitness at all unless we're talking about it um it felt very seamless of a evolution for me because obviously I've gone through it all, I've done it all, like I've fucking seen it all.

I've seen everyone come and go and a lot of my content along the way, like I said, the longer format stuff, the YouTube stuff was always talking. So for me, this kind of like translation into this sort of content and all the other stuff that I've been doing was pretty seamless and very genuine to myself, right? I think that's one of the most important things to be successful in this industry long term is like it's different. Like you do a thing and you're this person to everyone because you give them this advice or this information or whatever that that like that looks like whether it's like comedy or motivation or that like advice on workouts beyond those things beyond the things that you're like giving to people the more you can give yourself to people

I think the more that you have real chance at longevity so for you and you know this this existential crisis thing and like life and like the point of this shit like I think if you just keep continuing to give yourself to the best of your ability to people like and i don't mean that like at all in a weird way just like giving yourself like genuinely that you will have so much success and yeah i could tell you for sure to answer your question like it's really changed but it's it's changed kind of like almost seamlessly with how i've grown as a person like i've gone through fucking anything you could think of like the massive ups big downs like business fuck-ups like business bad relationships like bad people getting to take advantage all kinds of shit it's just like

you get to a point where you just the more you can accept it and like learn from all of these moments it allows you to teach and get back to all the people that like are looking at you for something like that um so yeah i i i'm fucking i'm just grateful that i was able to do this shit for so long that i'm still doing it and i didn't like linking up with people like you who are like brand new in it and you know, you have such an ability to go beyond even where you're at now that it's just a matter of like, do you want to? And is that really in you, you know? And I think obviously you're, you're very good at speaking. You make great content. People love you. I think you should do more of it. Maybe you should, you know, open up more. So it's your age. Sorry, dude. I'm trying to get

the age, man. I was trying to get it for you guys. I was, because I'm not going to lie. I remember, I was like I asked you in person because like you were training and I was like I remember walking and maybe like what the fuck doesn't you want to stay your age it's so weird I respect I respect it you know yeah it's a joke at this point obviously it doesn't matter it doesn't matter your age but yeah I just think like I don't know I guess I asked you that same question like do you do you see your connection to what you're doing change or like would you do you see yourself doing other things in the space, like not fitness or something else that you're really passionate about? Because for me, it's talking. I love learning. I love understanding people.

I like doing little shenanigans, like my adventures. Sometimes I feel like they're not like the most entertaining as far as like an attention grabbing thumbnail and title and like a clickbait thing. Like sometimes those aren't the best, but I like doing those things. I like going on little adventures. I go on a lot of little adventures and I'm like, I probably shouldn't record this because it's like, you know. What are you doing?

What things you shouldn't record or? Like. Or you just think people aren't going to like it? No, like things that might get you in trouble with the law. But I feel like everyone does it. Wait, what the fuck are you? Wait, what? Things that might get you in trouble with the law,

but I feel like everyone does it. Are you out here committing crimes? What are you doing? Not like not. You're fucking, you're sending the pictures. You're sending a voyeur pictures to random people. That's you sending the fucking crimes. It's me sending them to myself.

No, it's not that. No, what do you, what do you mean? No, I'm so, I'm so curious, I don't know what you're talking about. Like, like, it's, yeah, like hood rat shit. But what is that mean, dude? That means to me, when you say hood rat shit, robbing people at gunpoint. Oh, no, those are victim crimes. Victimless.

No one gets hurt. Okay. Hood rat shit, okay. My other assumption of that is, I don't know. What else is hood rat shit, bro? That's why Matt's fucking asking. Like going to like, I don't know, like abandoned places. Oh, that's cool.

Like, have you ever seen those guys, those Russian guys? They're just like a little group of hooligans who are in Russia and they're like, we're breaking into Chernobyl. And then they like going to Chernobyl and like swim in the water. And they're just like. Now they're dead. I don't know. It was so funny.

I was watching, I stream sometimes. Sometimes I play video games on Twitch. Sometimes I just like watch videos. Looked like a streamer. Thank you. A couple months ago, we were watching just YouTube videos and we were watching those guys. And one week, it was like, one of the videos was we break into Chernobyl and they're like swimming in the water.

Then the next week, it was like, I get tested for like radiation poisoning. Exactly. I'm like, they're so silly. Like, that's something I like. Oh, that's so silly. Yeah, like I would just like silly like that. That would be me. I was like, I really resonate with these characters.

Like, damn. You should do stuff like that's dope. I do. But it's like, should I capture that? You know. Yeah. Yeah. You know who you kind of remind me of is not in the fitness space at all?

Who's that girl? She's massive on YouTube. Emma Chamberlain. Emma Chamberlain. Oh, I know her coffee. I saw it sprouts once. I know that girl. Yeah.

So the reason why I brought that up, not just because I'm not saying you look like her, but that's what she just like just films random shit like and people love it. I feel like she has some existential issues too, though. I've seen like some videos of her being like. you know yeah yeah that's what i'm saying that's like you like film some of that content people would love it no straight up yeah like if you sad you're talking about like man just life dude i don't want to i don't want to i think the people would be like fuck i feel that yeah because a lot of people were like real you know yeah it's real so why would you not do it

you just don't you just think like people won't like it because it's not the clickbait i don't know i actually try not to utilize too much clickbait in my stuff i remember one time i was benching and i thought it was funny so i photoshop like eight plates on there you know i can't freaking bench that and someone commented and they were like that's clickbait i was like there's no way you believe i was actually holding that up there like yeah but who gives a fuck we need some i click based on the fuck because like the internet itself is like it's base on that shit that is like that is that is like the whole thing that people don't realize like that is yeah that is it i mean everything is fucking clickbait like if you ever gone on snapchat and looked at like the you know the

tiles and you're like the things that they say and that's like 99% of like whatever that title is is probably not even accurate i was telling some the other day i was like you know who's the champion of clickbait whoever the heck is making these snapchat things yes they're insane no like the things that those things say you're like what i'll click and i'll be like it's not even what it's fucking saying yeah they say something totally different i was like that person needs a raise because they're goddamn good at their job incredible so it's like that's a that's a i mean that's the internet in a nutshell is like get people in as many as you can and then whatever you're whatever's there you know hopefully it can resonate with some people right so it's just like

i don't know i think there's definitely a time in place for it but i also think like that kind of content people do also really want even though it's not as like clicked or searched for because it's not as like taboo or crazy or sexy whatever i think that's also the content that people really actually thoroughly enjoy and get something from yeah because there's probably other people out there were like i want to go on those adventures with it right so fucking do it i think you i know like what if the cops rolled up like to my house like after I post this video and they're like it's evidence cops or what they ain't gonna do that shit fuck no they'd have to get you in a moment they don't give a fuck about that really

well did I say like that's not me or like no unless you did some real crime shit you know like and you're like ha ha I posted it it's like yeah yeah yeah but if you're just showing up somewhere trespassing they didn't get you in the moment there's no way they're going back and be like you're trespassing they're gonna be like oh I like you on Instagram yeah dab you up that's what's gonna happen could I get a picture that's what's going to happen yeah they're not They're not going to fucking knock you and try and fucking lock you up. Next video, I'm in jail.

Dude. Yeah. You got the clickbait. Not click bait. Yeah, not with the fucking asterisk. Not clickbait. You got it. That's what you should do.

Yeah. But so that's what I'm saying. Like, is there other other things you want to do? Like, do you know yet? I guess maybe you don't even know yet. I don't really think I know yet. Like that would definitely be of interest to me because I mean, fitness is great. I don't feel like my whole life is fitness.

and I don't feel like everybody else's whole life is fitness. Even the fitness people that enjoy my fitness content. Yeah. I know they're doing other things. Yeah. So there's other things to do. So you talked about Twitch. Are you like,

do you play video games then? Yeah. I've been struggling pretty, I've been doing Twitch longer than I've been doing Lean Beef Patty. Really? Yeah. Like a couple years longer. So then I'm assuming it really probably help though once you.

Lea Beat Patty helped the Twitch. Also, I started using Twitch a lot differently, you know. You talking about hot tub streams? No. I did tell someone they were like, you should hot up stream. And I was like, man, when I was streaming, I was sitting there on like a little stool with, I used to have rats, giant ass rat cage in the back. Like I was like, I'm not going to haunt up the street. Now, when you said he used to have rats, I thought like you just had rats in your house because they were like, it was like, you literally have pet rats. Yeah. You have them now still? They're deceased. Okay. Yeah. M. RIP.

Yeah, I know. Thank you. That's tough. How many? Two. It was actually tragic when they died. It was horrific. Um, Frank and Mortimer. Mortimer. Mortimer was naked. Like a naked ball bat. And then Frank had like a bit of his ear missing. So I named after my grandpa who had cancer.

Jesus Christ. You name the naked one after the cancer guy? That's fun. No. No, the naked one was just mortimer because he looked like a mortimer. And then the one with the piece of his ear missing was Frank because my grandpa's name was Frank and he had cancer and he had a bit of his ear missing from. from the cancer.

Wow. That's fucking deep. So on Twitch, what do you do then? I play video games or I just like watch YouTube videos. React. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. We'll just like watch them and then like...

Are you watching the guys, the Chernobyl guys doing the thing? You're watching that kind of... We're watching other things. Like I was watching those like really old bodybuilding, like compilation things of like Arnold and like Tom Plats and like... Yeah. Dorian Yates. Yeah, like those guys with like that one video that has like 18 million views or something.

We're just like watching that just like watching that. How much video is that? I don't know. It's like old school motivation or like something crazy. Yeah, we watched that once and then whenever I just watched the videos though, people are always like, oh, like play a game. And then I'll play a game and they're like, I'll play a different game. And I was like, oh, my God. Because I only like playing one game.

Yeah. Well, you can't, you can't. It's tough. What's the game? Cuphead. It's the best game. So you don't play like shooters or anything? I don't like call the duty or.

Fortnite or anything like that. It kind of makes me dizzy the first person point of view. Also, I'm not very good at that. Oh, okay. Yeah, I really suck. You're more of like a storyline person? I want it like Mario. Like a platformer. Mario? Just, what is that? 2D? Yeah. Damn. Wow. I like that. You just play old games. You just start

playing old games. Could do that. Get like a frogger. Yeah, or like get one of those like old, the Nintendo that has like all the Nintendo games on it and then figure out a way to put it on the Twitch. That'd be don't. If I could, I would. I was trying, when I first started streaming, I was trying to figure out how to get my Nintendo DS on there. But then I was like, man, I'm not that technically savvy. Really? I can't figure that out. That's super easy. Really? Yeah, I'm a super, I'm a nerd. I've got this shit like, dang. Yeah, I can help you do it. Let me go pee real quick. I got a few more

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if i'd want a partner who like works out a lot and uh historically that has not been the case but I don't. Not what you wanted or just didn't work out? Not how it worked out. Not the people that I ended up with, yeah. But I don't think I would really care that much. You don't think about that at all. It's not like a.

Like sometimes I think about it. It just like depends like if they will like want to go to the gym with me. First of all, I like working out alone. I don't like really working out with someone. So if they wanted to work out with me, they got to work out like the same way that I work out. Otherwise like, I don't want to work out with you because we're doing something else. Yeah. But if they don't work out in general,

I don't care. No, I get it. But you don't have, there's no, like, preference. I just figure, yeah. Like, none. Not really. Yeah. Is there a proper way for a guy to hit on a girl in the gym?

Even with TikTok now that I know it's crazy. Even with TikTok, yeah, I don't know. I did a poll once on my Instagram story that was, like, something about, like, if you would hit on someone, and I just did, like, it's fine, but, like, at the right time, never, or, like, some other answer. I feel like people say never. A lot of girls, a lot of the female answers, would never. It's crazy because it's also, that's just not realistic, though.

To never? Yeah, to never do it is like, like, if I never talk to a girl at the gym, I would never have had a relationship. The way I personally look at it is like, I don't want a shit where I eat. And I eat at the gym. I get you. But I don't go, I was at a point in my life where I didn't go anywhere else but the gym. That's what I do. Well, that's what I'm saying.

No, I respect that. But that's what I'm saying. Like, if that's your life, then it's like, you know, where else are you seeing these people at Chipotle? Maybe after the gym or like, maybe. Your mom introduces you to someone. Who knows? Your mom? Who knows?

Wow. Not my mom, but someone else's mom. That's old school. Damn. Those days are gone, I feel like. I feel like social media has like ruined dating. I don't know if it was that great before. You know?

You know, who's the, it's like the, it's like the first. first ever, like, sex study, the Kinsley study or something, found that there was a lot of interesting activity happening that people just didn't know about because they didn't know about it because it's easier to hide. If anything. Before the internet. It was in the 50s or the 60s. It was like there was a lot of activity, a lot of things that people didn't know. It just wasn't on someone's story where they could be like, what's hell? It just was no one could find out. Yeah. Interesting. Damn. I kind of missed those days. Not that I was ever there. Yeah, not that I was ever there. But like The idea of like life like that sounds so cool where like if someone did you dirty, like you could snuff them out and just be like, yep, okay, they're gone now.

Yeah, it was probably less stressful in general. I heard some statistic that teenagers right now have like the same amount of stress as insane asylum patients in the 50s. Oh. Yeah. That is an alarming stat. Yeah. Quite the stat. Wow.

Yeah. We were going in the right direction. Holy shit. Wow, that's kind of fucking, that's fucked. The future, it looks interesting. I wonder what's going to happen. Who knows what it holds? What do you think about the aliens?

What about them? Other than being shot down right now? Yeah, yeah. What if they're just trying to say hi? And we're just like, like sniping them and they're like, man. I don't know, yeah. And then they nuke us,

but it's not a nuke. It's like an alien nuke. It sounds like 10 times worse. Yeah. Be like they do it in a different way. They'll infiltrate our fucking our technology. I was thinking about this the other day. I think if I had to choose.

had to go out, like, in a war situation, I would want to be in the center of that nuke. Just done. You just, you don't even see it coming. We could be nuked right now. It's so funny. Me and Jacob, we're talking about this, like, driving back from Vegas. And I was, like, the worst part, like, if a nuke hit, like, we were talking about a nuke hit in L.A., which is such a crazy thing to talk about because, like, the world just going

insane right now, apparently, is like, if I, well, if I wasn't that person, because, like, who gives a fuck, right? It doesn't matter. I would just hate the fact that, like, I'd have to see my. dogs probably die from like radiation poisoning like yeah i wouldn't want to be that person i wouldn't want to be you know yeah the radiation after painful yeah have you been watching that show yeah that's just good you know the one the thing that's really interesting about that is they say that there is the fungus that is like that is actually like only like one step away from doing that if

it just learns how to like live in the human body at a higher temperature are you serious Damn, so we're like, right? Remember at the beginning of the show where they're doing the podcast and they're talking about it? Holy shit. It's right now. Holy shit.

It's us. Oh my God. We just need a scientist. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty close. No, like there's a, that's a real fungus thing. Like, not that like it's a real thing that's happening, but apparently like there's a vampire type fungus thing

that is like, if it could just live at a higher temperature in the body, it could do that because it does it to like ants and shit already. Does it live in animals? Oh, I heard that. Yeah, I can do that to like ants. So if it just learn how to like upgrade itself. Yeah. Hopefully that's the next generation or something.

The next P. Demi coming soon. No, no. Oh, my God. They're getting us ready with the fucking the last of us. They might be. Because think about this. Think about this. That was a video game years and years ago.

And they just released it now. Just like fucking, no, I don't want to go a conspiracy theory on you. It's too crazy. Oh, that's fine. No. No. Too deep, man, too deep. I always want to keep more service level on the fucking aliens.

What do you think it is? Do you think it's aliens? You think it's like, because the thing without, when I read about it, they're like, we shot down some stuff. We're not telling you what it is. I don't think it's aliens. I think, like, honestly, whenever someone says, like, oh, UFO shot down, my first thought isn't really aliens.

It's like Russia or something. Something else. It's like a foreign country sent something as something. Or maybe it's like some kid's drone, I don't know, and they're just shooting it down. I don't know if it's a drone. Because it's like, I don't know. Fucking send some fucking fighter jets to go shoot a kid's drone. No, man, no, I don't think it's a drone.

I don't know. I really, but I like where you went with that. One of those little spinny things, you know, where you like pull it and then it spins up and then shooting it down. Could be that. It's not, dude. No, it's something else. I feel like it's just all just like distraction type shit. from the pandemic.

Not from the new one, the fungus one. No, no. I think from the, basically the, that's like, yeah, the shit that's kind of seems to be escalating. But no one's really talking about it. Yeah, I feel like that's the way things have been going recently. It's like something horrific will happen in the world. We talk about it for three months and then no one talks about anything and then like something else horrific and then, yeah. Yeah, like there was some stuff in Ohio where like a train derailed and like there's this crazy.

easy ass cloud of like chemicals it's basically like killing people yeah I just saw on TikTok some just girl was like my friend lives there and she's like telling me like what's happening I was like dang yeah it's it's that's that's that one's actually pretty scary because it's like if that's a thing that's gonna keep happening like what like what's causing that just trains are just randomly derailing and blowing up things I think it happened somewhere else as well I don't know the exact location a train derailment and then a fog like another chemical thing like there's been two i think i don't know what the other one is if i had uh my trusty jamie back there i'm not joe rogan enough right now but can you google really

quickly there was a there was a train derailment or whatever uh in ohio like a chemical spill can you google if there was another one because like i think there was another one and it's just so it's like that that's actually a scary thought because like there's like train you know we drove past the trains coming back from Vegas um this last weekend it's like you know it's like what the fuck's going on yeah i don't know it's just an interesting thing because like that's that's in ohio it's not like overseas we have yeah we have trains here we got trains all over yeah yeah so sketchy did you find anything over there jacob yeah were they both in ohio detroit so detroit in ohio man poor michigan you know they just really the government

doesn't like them yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly anyways my point is like that shit's just that that's a little frightening because it's like that's not you know I guess it's kind of it's lame to say but it's not far away from home like that's straight up here yeah like I wonder what that is you know yeah I mean I feel like the government does a lot of sneaky things not to get conspiracy but they do a lot of things they're doing a lot of things yeah that's how I felt about just if they mess up and it's in front of our face you know well yeah nowadays too because it's like everything is videoed and recorded and everyone's got a phone everyone's got tic-tok and it's like immediate so we get

we get news kind of like in a different way now too that's not always just mainstream it's like a lot of self-reported type shit it's definitely created like a but then also did you see the shit the the other day like I don't know how much you use the internet but there's a like deep fake like weird porn shit but not so much that's not what I'm talking about but just like people not changing someone's voice taking someone's voice and like making them sound like they said something else and then people thinking that it's true like like giving me like someone like basically making me say something I didn't say um I didn't hear about that recently but it's not like I would think that that exists you know which is crazy because I'm so I'm gonna tell you I saw a clip uh it looked like

Joe Rogan was selling that he wasn't selling and he's like saying oh you can just search this product I'm not going to give it any any love or anything because it's it was a bullshit ad but it's like it's a fake video of himself saying it like you can just go on amazon and find this product and it's like none of it shit was real there's the first part of the clip was real where joe's saying of talking about a different product and then they like made it so it's sound he was talking about this other product and it's like viral on twitter and i'm assuming it's like how much money they make literally like fraud yeah that's illegal right yeah yeah okay yeah no but it's that's what's crazy

but it's like the wild west a little bit because it's like now like how far do they go to they're like what the fuck's going on it's just a weird it's a weird thing yeah None of that frightens you, because you're on social. Yeah, I mean, it does, but also, if that battle comes to the grounds, like, really, what are you going to do? You can just say, like, it's not true, and it's up to people to believe you or not. And otherwise, like, at least for me, I'm not smart with things like that. So maybe, like, get a lawyer. Like, I don't even know what else to do.

I think it's more so it comes back to this thing about that people just fail to do, which is, like, use your brain and try to critically think about something. We just, as a society, seem to just be like, if I saw it here on TikTok or if I saw it there on some news outlet, it's the truth, it's gospel. Oh, yeah. And I think that's the overarching issue that, like, the reason why all these things are able to, like, make its way and happen

is because people are so fucking stupid and just willing to take anything at face value, no matter doing any research. Like, that's the tricky part on the internet. You know, you run into someone who talks, someone might talk shit about you just because they want to, for their own benefit and then because they can do that people go oh yeah you suck because that guy said it and it's like well is this real or someone just saying that because they want some clout they want some views and that goes with everything products all kinds of shit it's just like

anyone could essentially say anything and and control some sort of narrative that just like it's bullshit and people don't think hard enough to go what's actually happening here yeah that and that's the scary part i think that's where like i just wish more people would fucking understand that don't take everything face value yeah you know try to like do a little bit of research because it's a like I said I was talking joking earlier about like having mostly guys on here and it being like this like echo chamber of like agreeance it's the same thing it's like if you're only looking at stuff that like you're constantly believing to be true then like your perspective on like life and things are just so skewed to like one one way I think that's called like

a confirmation bias yeah yeah and then you're just in a position where it's like you just think you're right just because everyone else around you is saying you're right and all the content you're seeing is saying you're right and then someone else says something that you don't agree with and you're like you're fucking you're wrong you're the devil it's bad no yeah if you only surround yourself with people who only agree with you and don't kind of like challenge you to grow in any way and you don't seek growth

in any other way then you're going to stagnate and you're going to create that little echo chamber yeah it's fucked up man it's terrible well it was wonderful having you on thank you have I think you're fucking you're incredible I really appreciate your time keep making great content Thank you. You too.

Well, yeah, so where can they find you? Twitch, YouTube. Twitch, YouTube. I don't want to promote the Twitch first. Okay. YouTube, Instagram, TikTok. Those are all Lean Beef Patty. Yep.

Twitter, the real lean beef. And Twitch, Pinhead Patty. Oh, Pinhead, interesting. Do you use Twitter for real? Because I love Twitter. That's my favorite. Twitter's kind of scary for me. Last time I opened Twitter, I opened it, and I was just,

greeted face to face with like the most graphic erotic art I've ever seen I was like that's crazy and then I just what are you what who you following I think it's because I don't like really follow a lot of people I follow like gorilla mind this one girl who draws like cute art like two friends and then like the cup head fan page so I think it was just like suggested from people my friends follow and I was like y'all are following like I'm like I'm not gonna like judge you know like do whatever you want to do but i was just like that's in my face right now i love i love twitter twitter's kind of intense for me i usually just go to there to like say something stupid and then leave that's fair that's fair but so twitter instagram youtube twitch is what you're not taking that

serious i'm trying to take more serious it's just like the twitter and the uh twitch have a different username so everywhere got it youtube instagram tixot is lean beef patty twitch is pinhead patty I started using that before the lean beef. Yeah. And then Twitter is the real lean beef because some guy from like 2014 had lean beef patty. Fuck that guy. Dang. And he's like been inactive.

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