RAWTALK - Liv Morgan Exposes WWE Backstage Life, Her Relationship w/ Dom Mysterio & Wrestling Brittney Spears

Episode Date: February 24, 2026

On This Episode Of RawTalk, Bradley Martyn Sits Down With Liv Morgan And Talks About Her WWE Journey And Royal Rumble Win, Life Off Camera, Her Biggest Career Moments With Dominik Mysterio, Going Vegan For A Year, Trading Romance For Success, Her Spiritual Awakening, Wrestling Britney Spears, What Really Happens Behind The Scenes In WWE & Much More! Sponsored by: Morgan & MorganHttps://www/forthepeople.com/rawtalk Sponsor RAWTALK: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/rawtalkSUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

Live Morgan. Hello. Yeah, it's a pleasure. Thank you for having me. What, uh, what got you into wrestling? Ooh. Um, I. Sorry, interrupted.

No, go, go. You interrupted me so fast. I like barely got it. I'm sorry. It's okay. It's okay. Um, because now you've been, you've been like successful in it for almost, it's almost more than 10 years.

Yeah, 11 years. 11 years. Not all years were success years though, but yeah, 11 years. But all that amounts it to this. For sure. So you were like, you wanted to wrestle before? Yeah. You found it?

Yeah. So I grew up a big fan of WWE since I was five years old. I grew up with four brothers and two sisters. And my brothers very much loved wrestling. And I grew up such a tomboy. I'd love to like rough house with my brothers, be around my brothers. So kind of anything naturally that they gravitated towards I did as well. And so the first time I saw WB, I just absolutely fell in love with it.

So you, you, you. Like you, because I know that whole tryouts, right? So you went through the whole tryout process? Yeah. How many times did you go through that? Once. Just one three day try out. And it was the hardest experience in my life.

It was so freaking hard. It was hard work. And not being an athlete per se before coming to W.B. I didn't really play sports. I did like competitive cheerleading for like two years. But that was pretty much my background. So to walk into this physically demanding. three-day try out where I'm doing all this shit that is so unnatural for the first time.

I was super intimidated and I wasn't as good as I thought I was going to be. Figured the hooter shop would have helped you out. Right. I mean, I guess it helped me with like my people skills, but it didn't help with taking bumps and doing roles for the first time. Yeah. It's interesting.

So you always wanted to do it was because you grew up watching it or your brothers like was it? Yeah. I just, I grew up watching it and I just, like, loved it. I don't really know how to explain it, but I just knew that that's what I was going to do. I just, I genuinely knew that that's what I was going to do with my life. I was going to grow up and I was going to be in the WWB. So pretty much all the decisions I made until that moment were catered to hopefully being the WWB one day. Yeah.

Are you on social media before you got on WB? No. No social media. I mean, I have like an Instagram, but just very, very regular type usage, you know what you mean? Yeah. Yeah. So I didn't have like, I wasn't like followed.

I wasn't like an influencer. I just was a normal ass 18 year old girl with an Instagram. Did you always write down your goals? Yeah. What is it? What are your brothers think about everything you do wrestling wise? I'm sure they love it. I think it's incredible.

I think it's crazy. We all had a makeshift wrestling ring in my backyard growing up. And it was like all of our dream. You know, we all wanted to make it in WWE. So the fact that one of us did and they get to come to my shows and watch me and they get to go to WrestleMania and watch me fight for a championship. It's really like surreal for my whole family. Yeah. Well, speak on that a little bit because now, now it's, you know, you won the Royal Rumble.

Do you know who your opponent's going to be? No, I get to pick. I get to pick whoever I haven't picked that. I have decided. You're going to rush me too. No, no, no. Everyone's trying to rest my decision. And I'm like, hey.

I'm just trying to get the exclusive. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're going to have to watch me on Monday Night Roll or Friday Night Smackdown like everyone else. I went to this last WrestleMania. It was one of the most fun experience. What day did you go? Did you see me in my tag match? I was on, I must have been Saturday.

I don't remember what day I was on. You might have been on Sunday. I think I was on Sunday. Yeah. I went on Saturday. It was one of the most enjoyable experiences I've ever had at like an event. It's incredible, right? I can't believe how people.

I mean, I understand why because it's just like just live action. drama storyline that people are just like enamored by. Did you think that it was going to be this way like on the way up? But did you think that people were going to gravitate to you the way that they have? I didn't know. I didn't have expectations to be honest. Like I didn't know what was going to come of my career, how people were going to perceive me, what they were going to think of me.

I didn't know ultimately where I was going to fit into all of this other than like I just like loved it so much. So I wasn't thinking in terms of, are the people going to like me? Are they going to hate me? I just really, it was just really about making it here to me. So I never really thought about that. But now, you know, 11 years later, I think it's really cool because the WB audience really got to like watch my come up. Yeah.

You know, like really started from the bottom, now we're here type shit. Yeah. And so I'm really proud of that. And I think that's like majority of my connection to the WB audience is they've seen me go from someone that was like, maybe undesirable to like undeniable. Yeah. And so that's been cool. It's interesting because your,

your sort of partner in crime, Dom is like they've seen him literally grow up. Literally. Yeah. And you, I mean, from young adulthood to older adulthood, whatever that,

I'm not trying to age you or anything. So that, that's, it's definitely unique. I wonder, I wonder like at what point do you know that you are headed to that sort of number one spot? And is there really

number one spot? Um, I mean, like when you, in your mind, in your mind, when do you like, you did it? For me, I did it when I got signed. Like, that was enough for me. When I got signed to DB, I was like, holy shit. Like I did it. And everything else has been like extra. But now, you know, um, having one money in the bank, being four time women's tag team champion, having a world title under my belt, two of them and now winning the Royal Rumble. These are all things I had like hoped for didn't really know that I was going to achieve so I I take them all um you know in stride I'm very proud of these accomplishments but I didn't know what was going to come up my career you know I didn't have any like I was not an athlete I was not a recruited

division one athlete I do not have family in this business um so it was really just uh let's see what happens. Let's see what happens. It's kind of just luck, I guess. Yeah, look, hard work, passion. I don't really know. But I definitely feel lucky and I feel blessed. What do you think it requires to be in the space that you're in in the spot that you're in? Like for someone who wanted to do it, who's like looking to do it or discipline and passion. I think that's really it. Like I don't think you can do this job if you don't love it. So I think like overall, like you can have the discipline, but if you don't love it, it's not going to work. Like everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, It's just so demanding and you have to make a lot of sacrifices.

So I think you have to absolutely love it to stick it out, especially 11 years. Yeah. But that's really it. I think just like hard work and passion. What do you think you've sacrificed the most on a personal level? I think just like my personal life. You know, like I make myself very available to WB because that's like what I believe I signed up for. And that's the responsibility I want them to give me.

so I don't care per se you know do I want to have a family and kids one day 100% but like right now in this phase of my life like I am sacrificing to give to w.E one because I feel like they've given me so much like it only feels right to you know match that energy but too that's just like the space of my life that I'm in I'm willing to sacrifice and choose wbE over anything else in my life and so that's what I do um I don't feel like in this space and time that I'm necessarily like sacrificing though because it's like exactly what I want to do but I am aware that I'm negligent to certain areas but I do it very willingly. What are those areas? It's just it sounds like it's probably the personal

relationship. Just like personal relationships, you know, um personal relationships like home time, you know, time with my family. But it's the life that I chose. Is that's exactly what you want? It's exactly what I wanted. Yeah. I could. I could. I couldn't, I couldn't write something up any different. If I had to write a paper, what do I want my life to look like? It looks exactly like how I want my life to look like. That's fair. So you're winning.

Is it, is it like hard to balance that? You know, because you have the sort of the on screen, like the on camera sort of character. Is it hard to balance that in your personal life? Like, do you ever find that character being a part of regular relationships? No. No, I'm very like... How different do you think you are off camera? Well, this current iteration of Liv Morgan, I'm very different off camera.

I like to do nothing. I like to be home. I like to be home. I like to be home. I like to stay on my farm. I like to hang out with my animals. I like to do like nothing. Like I don't want to do anything.

I don't want to go out to dinner. Like I want to stay home. I want to cook. I want to just be home. So it's like I feel like people would be surprised to hear that about me because I'm sure they think like I love to go out and this and that and I want to be in the mix. But it's like really the opposite. Like I get.

much of that at work, that not at work, like I'm, you're not going to catch me outside. That's exactly how I feel about social media because I've been for so long. Yeah. So it makes me like, because you give so much of yourself to the thing that you're doing, the thing that you love, obviously, you get out and you're like, I just want to sit with my dogs. I just want to just relax. And even like social media, I don't know that I necessarily have it or use it if it wasn't, you know, such a tool for work and, you know, the WV universe and that community, it really,

like, we benefit so much from the use of social media. Yeah. That's something the WBD has done really well. Like they fucking crush social media. It's actually crazy impressive. Yeah. But it's also, I'm sorry, interrupting again. That's okay.

You're rude. I know, I'm rude. Yeah, I apologize. They're going to say that for sure. I normally don't interrupt this much. It's okay.

It's okay. It's getting a little bit of that pariscial relationship. Like everyone watching. They have these ideas of you or how you are. That's why I'm asking these questions. But I'm okay with that too. Honestly, I don't care.

I don't care what you think about me. Not in a disrespectful. way, but I just don't care. Like everyone's allowed to have their opinion. Everyone's allowed to have their perception of what they think that you are. And that's like none of my business is a dispute. Like I will not confirm nor deny. I will let you happily think what you want to think about me because it's got nothing to do with me. Yeah, fuck it. Did you ever care? I think in the beginning of my career, I definitely cared a little bit. Just being so young, 18 years old and you're having this barrage of people shit on you until you're not good enough.

and that. I think that was like jarring to me. And so I decided very early on like you are not going to give a fuck about this. You know, like and so I, it was like a choice that I made not to care or cater to any kind of like online criticism. Yeah. And that's something that I've been able to like luckily follow strong with. You just can't, you can't, you know what I mean? Like you can't care about every single opinion that is said about you. And it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's It's not even real. It's not even real. You delete, you delete the app. It's like doesn't exist. As long as you're, as long as you're right with yourself. What? Yeah, as long as you're okay with yourself. Yeah. And that's like really where I subtle. Like do I think I did well? Do I think this

about myself? Yes, no. And that's like really what I go off of. Are you always true to that? Or does that ever falter for you? What do you mean? Like you're, if you're good with yourself, like meaning someone's, you know, obviously not with some comments or someone's, you know, obviously not with some comments or someone saying, but I guess sort of where you're at is, is it, it's exactly where you want to be in all regards. I guess I'm just trying to understand it seems so difficult to have like a complete, you know, this personality online and obviously on camera and on set and when you're working. And then you're blending the personal life just seems so difficult because I can relate to it for social media and it's a completely different aspect. But I mean, I'm essentially like

portraying myself all the time and all these different content pieces or clips or podcast. And it could be sometimes jarring, I guess, to people who come from outside. Yeah, I'm sure maybe people, I don't know if I'm understanding correctly, but I think, I'm, my perception of what people think of me and my online presence probably does deter certain things, but also like, I feel like that falls in the same bucket of this and in my business. You know what I mean?

Like, if you are not going to take more of an effort to, figure out who I am aside from what you're seeing online, then like, okay, you're going to just believe what you see online. But if you took a second to ask me questions or to like learn about me as a human, you probably might have a different opinion. But also, I don't really don't know what the, I don't know what the opinions are. I don't know what the consensus of me is. I don't know like the overall what people think about me. So you don't really, you don't really look into, you don't look at the comments. You look at the bullshit. I go and I scroll and like, I laugh a lot. Like, I think what I like about online and, like, X is, like, people's creativity.

Yeah. Like, how they, how their brain takes something and, like, I don't know, like, I laugh at comments all the time because I think it's hilarious, you know? I think people the way their brain works, like, it really, like, impresses me sometimes. And I'm like, man, I never would have thought that. I never would have connected to these two things. I never would have thought to make this comment. And so, like, I laugh a lot.

I giggle a lot because I'm impressed with the creativity. but I'm not like scrolling to see like what are they saying about me I'm scrolling to see like what it what is just being said in general of anything in the world and uh I get a kick out of the world dude the world's insane right now the world's insane but the commentary is insane too and so um yeah I'll I'll be online and I'm scrolling and I just am like wow that was really creative yeah it's really creative what was the what was the most memorable point of your career at this point so far? The most memorable.

I think my money in the bank win in 2020. That was just like my first like real accolade. You know, I had won the money in the bank match. I cashed in on Ronda Rousey, won my first championship. And so that was like the first, I feel like taste of success that I've had in WWE. And so that's really memorable to me. SummerSlam, obviously beating Ray Ripley for my women.

Women's World Championship and Dominic turning on her and choosing me. That stands out to me huge. And this Royal Rumble win. Also, you know, becoming the first ever crown jewel winner in Saudi Arabia. Just like these accomplishments that I wasn't sure if I was ever going to have. And that also came like way later in my career, you know. And so they send out to me just because I don't know. You don't know what's going to happen when you sign up for this shit.

Yeah. And so to be able to celebrate these accolades and these successes, I'm like, I'm super proud of them. How close with you are, how close with Dom are you off camera? That's my boy. Like you guys like homies? That's my guy. Yeah.

That's my guy. That's fam. Yeah. If you ever needed anything ever in the world. He's one of the coolest people I've ever met. Yeah. When we had him on here, we both, we were both like, damn, that guy's like really fucking cool. Mm-hmm.

Good person. Yeah, good dude. Yeah, good dude. If you had to pick another sort of partner in the space, who would it be? What do you mean partner? Like I guess in this sense it's sort of like a love interest Someone that you have this no one Is Dominic or we're done

If so if it's if it ever goes south never again No Interesting I wonder if he'd say the same We struck gold You think you'd say the same? I don't know I don't want to FaceTime him so bad right now

I'd like to think he'd like to think he'd say the same But I don't know Dude if I can get this FaceTime I already face on him earlier That's so funny. Hold on, I should have prepared for this. You don't have the Liv Morgan stain.

Damn, you might have to call him for me. Fuck. I should have prepared for this. You're no Liv Morgan, sweetie. He answered from me earlier. Call him right now. See if he answers.

I only call again. I already bothered him today. Oh, hold on. Say, call me. Damn, that would have been gold. It's okay. I would see if you'd so call. Yeah.

You can always call back. We can circle back around. Yeah. I like to think that he would say, you know, it's not me. It's no one. But who knows? He would definitely say that to you. No, he knows.

I'm like, Dominic, tell the truth. Be honest. Be honest. Tell the truth. So do you think like that's, I mean, that's kind of like one of the, that's one of like the bigger pieces of wrestling right now is sort of the, the relationship piece. Yeah. Has that been like, I feel like we invigorated that.

Yeah, so what I'm saying. It's a newer thing. No, we made it. It's not a newer thing, but it has not been done in a really long time. And then Dominic and I became a couple. And then now you see a lot of WWE couples. Yeah. But none are as good as us, genuinely.

Genuinely. I'm not going to argue. None are as good as us. Some would argue that. Some would argue that. You could argue it. That's not mean it's true. So you wouldn't pick anyone else.

No. Okay. No. Fair. No. What's the most memorable moment you've had with Dom in the ring? Like what, context do you mean?

I guess just, I was just one that stands out the most. Maybe that, maybe that probably when he turned on her. One that stands out the most. We had something that happened two weeks ago, but I'm not going to disclose. Oh, wait, he's, is it calling you back? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm interviewing Liv. Dominic. And just really quick question.

Wait, let me, let me, no, don't, don't, don't load it. Let me see him first. Okay. I'm going to sing first. Don't, you can't do like a thing. You're going to, bro. Okay. I just want to say,

answer honestly. Oh my gosh. He's fucking loading it, dude. I'm not. All right. So, okay, hold on.

Hold on. It's getting this recording. Be honest, fam. Yo, you're so funny. So, okay,

yeah, be honest, be honest. If you had to choose another love interest, who would it be? You're, that's what I said.

That's my guy. Told you. I feel like, So there's no other shot, no one else? Nah, fam, look where I started, and then, like, look where I'm at now. And then look who was beside me when I first started, how that went out. And then who was beside me now, and look how that's working out. I got two titles.

I mean, I'm on all three shows. She's on all three shows. Like, I mean, it kind of speaks for itself. Yeah, undefeated. Well, that's it. I get you. I get you. I just, I don't want to bug you too much, but thank you, bro.

I mean, you're good. Plus, I mean, just look at it. Okay. Thanks, fam. I love you, bro. Love you, bro. All right. See you.

See you. Yeah. He's such a good guy. I told you. I told you. I feel like you loaded that a little bit. I did not load him up. I had to let him know so that he knows he's not going to hurt my feelings if he says the truth.

I have to be like, no, you could be honest. Like, I can take it. Okay. Okay. So the most memorable moment then? I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. What is that?

Well. you know, if you're just asking me right now, it's like the freshest in my mind. It's the most memorable right now, but it's not something that I really want to disclose. It's just a moment that happened a couple weeks ago in the ring that he'll know what I'm talking about if this airs any hears. Do they, dude, does the audience know what you're talking about? Oh, so this is a very, it's a personal moment. It was, but it wasn't. Okay.

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What do you enjoy the most about doing this? Besides the fact that it's something you always wanted to do. Like about WWE, what do I love about? Yeah, wrestling in general. Like what makes you the most hype when you do it or when you feel it or like, what moments are you like, this is fucking sick? When I know I'm like killing it. Like when I know I'm doing a great job. How do you know that?

I could hear it. Okay. I can hear the crowd. And like when I know the crowd's invested, that's like the best feeling ever. It's like you got them. You got them to believe, you know? And that's like all you really want. And so those moments really send out to me is like when I know like I've got the audience.

But I love everything about it, to be honest. I love I love my peers. I love the community that you built in WWE. I love the community work that we do. I feel like, I don't know. My relationship with WWE doesn't feel traditional in the sense of like I don't see it like a job. Like, you know, I started when I was 18 years old. I've been watching since I was five years old.

I quite literally feel like raised by WW2 degree. Did you ever play the video games? Of course. Yeah. No mercy was my shit. You kidding me? I stay up hours. Smackdown versus raw.

So good. Here comes the pain. You know what you mean? All of it. But I just feel like it's so much more, it means so much more to my life than just like this is my job. I feel like it's taught me so much and I feel like everything good about me. Like I had somehow learned three.

through WWE. Like it's made me the person that I am. So it's like I can spend all day being like I love this, this, this, this, this and this. But it's because like, it's like truly like in my heart. It's not something that's like this is a job and this is how I make money. It's that too. But I have like a different kind of like love and respect and appreciation for it. Like quite literally changed my life. And in turn I was able to change my family's life. And so just like beyond beyond grateful. Yeah. That's how that's how. I feel about the gym for sure. Yeah.

So one of the things you mentioned earlier about having a farm, was that something you always wanted? I don't think I ever grew up thinking I'd have a farm, but I really wanted like a good dichotomy of like my professional life to my private life. Peace. Peace. Quiet. Yeah.

You know, it's going from the hustle, bustle of the road and meeting all these people and being around all these people and being on and performing to like going home to my farm. And it's just like quiet. Well, it's not quiet. You know, there's animals like squawking and moving and oinking. But just having that piece and they're just so pure. Their energy is so pure. They don't want anything from you other than like love.

Yeah. You know, and so I just kind of came across a property that had some acreage really close to the airport. Not really close, but closer to the airport. And I was just like, let me just get some chickens. I started as chickens. Then I got cows. is when I got a donkey and I had this pig. And so it kind of just progressed into me having like a full-fledged farm,

but also like I don't farm. Like I don't like milk or eggs. So it's just like animal sanctuary. You don't like milk or eggs? No, I just take care of the animals. I was vegan for a year and I'm not anymore. I'm not anymore. Why don't, why you, oh my God, I'm vegans.

No. No one stays a vegan because it doesn't, it doesn't work. I don't know about that. I don't really know anything about anything. I know that I tried it for a year and I gained like 30 pounds. and then I went to Japan and I had like Korean barbecue and I broke my veganism on like cow tongue. And then like I felt like I was on drugs and I was like I think I'm supposed to eat meat. So and so that's like really how that went.

And then I wasn't vegan anymore. But I still have some days where like I don't want meat. And I still have like I don't I won't drink milk like that there's certain things that like milk and eggs. I never liked eggs. I love eggs. Never like eggs. I did like milk but now I won't drink milk. But yeah.

the animals just live on the farm and I just take care of them and we're just like pals beautiful yeah what made you feel like you wanted to be vegan um I was up one night and it was just something very simple I just I I don't look at like pita videos because like I'm very sensitive to animals I don't like watching them being tortured or like you know captive and so I had accidentally watched a video one night and I was disturbed by it and then the next day I got lunch I went to the show. I start eating my chicken at the show. And I'm just thinking about the videos that I watched the night before. And like it just made me like sick to my stomach. Like honestly, I got sick to my stomach. And then I just quit cold turkey. I was like, I'm not eating meat anymore. And I just

became a vegan just in that moment. And I just like quit everything cold turkey and just became a vegan for a year. What did you actually eat though? It was. It was a bean. It was a bean. It was a bean. I was saying beans. Like fries and beans. Yeah. And also being a vegan on the road with like no knowledge of like what being a vegan is and just deciding on a whim. I'm like going to like, you know, tucklebone. I'm like, could have a side of beans? I'm like some lettuce. You know, it's like you, you don't even have access to like proper foods when you're traveling between towns at 2 a.m. So I made it hard for myself. I made it hard for myself. That seems like one of the most difficult parts of like the wrestling business. I mean, anything that you spend a ton of time doing,

but because you guys travel so much. Yeah. Like just your diet. it has to be one of the hardest things to maintain. Yeah, you know, I feel like as far as diet, I never really tapped into, like, eating like an athlete until this past injury that I've had. I've always like... How did that happen, by the way? I just dislocated it.

I was in the ring. I had taken a weird fall. I tried to brace myself, and my shoulder just popped. And so I dislocated it. I had surgery. I turned my labor around, my bicep, my rotator cuff. You take any, like, recovery stuff, peptides? Stem cells, nothing like that?

Nope, just good old-fashioned PT. Damn. I thought they would, I feel like the W.U. would be like, you gotta get out some fucking stem cells or something. No, that's not something that they like push on you. Like I'm sure if I wanted to, I could go get them, but no one was being like, hey, take some cells. But they were like, get your ass in the physical therapy, you know. And so I went to a great physical therapist in Tampa and did that every single day from the day after my surgery until the day come back.

It came back. But I really locked into my nutrition. And that was like a real big eye opener for me. I was like, whoa. It's like true what they say. Like I was afraid of the kitchen. Yeah. You feel way better, mentally clear.

They'll way better mentally clear. Eating a lot too, but just like staying lean, you know, just like learning about nutrition and like what your body needs. It's something that I kind of just never did. And so I just took the time to like. So what's your diet look like now? Whole food. Still no eggs. I mean, honestly, I'll do a hard boiled egg, which is like the grossest kind of egg.

But like I like that for some reason. good. I like it. Yeah, like a hard-willed egg. Just whole foods really, like if I can't hunt for it, fish it or grow it or, you know. Do you follow any like internet trends? No. Are you on the internet much? Yeah. Yes and no. I'm on the internet, but like I'm not unless it really speaks to me unless I think like, wow, I really want to tap into that. But like nothing really moves me in that way. So you don't like watch political shit. You don't, none of that kind of stuff. No, I mean, I'm aware. I'm aware. I'm aware, but I'm not like persuaded by anything.

Yeah. Did you just always grow up just focused on, I don't know, it sounds like, obviously not just focused on wrestling. No, I was. I was. It's funny talking about it. No, that's literally all I cared about. It's like I knew like I'm going to save my family's life and I'm going to be a WC super size. That's all I cared about.

And it's like I kind of never regret it that. It's like still like all I care about. I care about other things, but I care about. setting myself up for like the rest of my life. Do you think you've done that already at this point? I think I've done a good job. So you're almost there. I think I've done a good job.

I'm just sorry. I was asking. No. I'm not trying to like pocket watch. I mean, I don't know like what a cap is. You know, I think I've done a good job.

You know, I'm not done yet. I still, you know, I'm still under contract. Is having money what you thought it would be? Yes, no.

Yeah, like the freedom, you know, that it gives me love, but like it doesn't give me happiness. And you know, like when people say like, if I had a million dollars, like all my problems would go away.

I'm like, yeah, maybe your problems will go away. But if your problem is like you're not happy, that's not going to go away. You know? And so it is what I thought it was, but also it's like not. Yeah. Yeah. What not about it? I think I definitely went through a phase where I thought like, oh, buying this is

going to make me happy or buying this is going to make me happy. Then I buy it. And I'm like happy for a couple seconds and I'm over it, you know? So I feel like when people are just like having this money will make me so happy. it might solve some of the problems that you have. But also if your problems are like eternal, the money is not going to make you happy. It's not going to solve your problems.

Yeah. When you say eternal, what do you mean? Which problems are eternal? Just like whatever you're struggling with eternally. Like whatever you're fighting eternally. No, like internally. Like whatever you're struggling with, money is not going to make you feel better.

You know, and I think like people think that it would. And I can understand maybe why you don't have the money. You think having the money is going to just like, Like, poof, everything is like gone, but it doesn't really like work that way. You think it does, but it kind of really doesn't. But you don't know that until you have the money. Yeah. It's a fucking fact.

Yeah. You don't know until you have the money. You're like, oh, it doesn't make everything just go away. It doesn't solve everything like the way that you, you know, it doesn't change the way you feel about yourself even though you think it should. Yeah. Are you happy? Yeah. There's no, no part of you that's like, man, it could be better here.

I have like good days and bad days. I feel like normally. But like overall, like I'm happy. Like I live a life that little me would kill for. And so I'm very aware of that. And so I'm happy. Yeah. Are there any moments where you find yourself questioning where you're at?

Like questioning where I'm at how. I guess in a sense of, I don't know. I guess when I ask that question is more so to get you to. Explain more about your personal life. It seems like you have everything figured out business-wise. I don't think I know anything. I don't have anything figured out. I don't know shit about shit.

Truly, I don't know anything. I'm just checking along here. Genuinely, I don't know shit. I mean, that's interesting because that's kind of what life is. Yeah, I don't know anything. I know like, this is working for me right now. Cool. Like, I can't claim to know shit because I really don't.

know that I've made decisions that seem like, okay. Yeah. Cool. Like, we're, we're on to something. But, like, I don't think anything's finite. You know what I mean? I don't think that there's, I don't know. I don't know. That's fair. I don't know. That's fair. I mean, that's just life. Yeah, it's just, it's just, yeah, it's just life. I don't think I have anything figured out. I'm happy right now, but I'm still like growing and learning. You know what I mean? What's the best advice someone's given you as it pertains to wrestling, like something that stood out where you're like, this was really helpful or change your sort of path or trajectory. Could be like something early on, something, you know, throughout or even something current.

You know, I don't know that this counts as like a piece of advice, but, you know, it's very easy to be like jaded. Yeah. And in my business, it's very easy to like become unhappy. to feel like you deserve more or to feel like you want more to feel like that's my spot. But I don't like think that that's like a thing. Like I genuinely believe like if that was your spot, like you'd be in that spot. Like there's no like if that's for me like what's for you won't pass you by.

So like sitting there being upset that that's not me or I wish I had this. It's like yeah, but that's just like not for you right now. there's so many moments in my career where I thought like I was ready or that I should have this or I should have that and obviously didn't get it. But now being able to look back and receiving those opportunities when I did when I was really ready for them, when I was like right for them. I don't really know what I'm trying to say. I just I just think that like, you know, what's for you?

When past you by, you can't be upset over something that is not you because it's just not your spot. You know, if it was your spot, you'd be in that spot. It's like not our show ultimately at the end of the day. You know what you mean? And so I get asked to do something and I am more than happy to do it because it's not my show at the end of the day. Yeah. You know?

But I mean, even not even talking about the WWE or being your show, that's relevant to everyone in their life. Like wherever you're at. Yeah. I think it's also too, I tend to talk. I get into this conversation a lot with people on the show. But it's accepting where you're at regardless of. anything and everything. Like people, I think, have a really hard time accepting where they're at,

wherever they are in their life because, like you said, like they wanted something else. They thought that they were going to be able to have something at a certain time that they don't have it. And they get caught up in that more than they get caught up in actually trying to continue to get it. Yeah. And like I get upset when like people quit or like they don't get that instant gratification

that they were looking for. so they don't want to try anymore. And it's like, no, like, just, just, just, just, just keep going. Just keep trying. I don't know. It's easy to quit when something feels so, like, unattainable or so out of your reach. But that doesn't mean that it really is, do you know? Absolutely.

And it's like, if you just keep going, if you just keep trying, if you're dedicated enough, you can have, I think anyone could do anything they want in the world. I genuinely believe, like, you could do and be anything. if you care enough and if you want it that badly. But I could understand why, like, I told you a little bit. Like, I didn't have, like, a famous family. I did not have, like, we weren't rich. I did not have, like, really any kind of connection into JWB.

It seemed like it was an impossible out-of-reach goal. But I didn't care and I still wanted to try. And so I just kept on making decisions to get closer and closer and closer and closer and closer. Like, if you look at my life on paper, I shouldn't be here. I shouldn't be doing this podcast with you. I should not be on the road to WrestleMania. My first ever WrestleMania headlining title match. But it was so out of reach, but I was like, fuck it.

And I just kept pushing towards it. And now here we are. And so I just feel like, I don't know, I would encourage and like love for people to like, if you wanted that bad, you're going to get it. Just it's not going to be on your timeline, you know, but you're going to get it. Yeah. And you have to just, you have to believe in yourself radically. Like you can't.

I think a lot of people, it's the timing thing that people mess up on, whether it's like love or it's business stuff. It's the timing that people go, I don't have it right now. So they quit because it's, oh, this is never going to work out. Yeah. But it's like, okay, how do you reinvent yourself in that situation, whatever it is pertaining to to like just continue? Because the thing is like, if you really care enough about it, because you sort of described everything about you is like you, you love this, you cared about this. This was in your mind something you were going to do no matter what. And then eventually it just kind of worked out because you were just holding that consciousness. Yeah.

That was your energy towards it. Yeah. But was there any point where you questioned it? Was there any point like leading up to, you know, signing or even throughout your career now? I think just like my life, like my life leading up to it. Like I had always had hoped and believed I would be in W&B. But like I said like my life on paper, I'm like, ooh. I don't know.

I don't know how you're going to get there. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you think you're going to do. to make it there. But I guess just decisions, you know, one decision led to another that led to another that led to another that led to another that like led me here. But I think just like my upbringing, I wanted this so badly, but did I really, really think it was possible? Maybe not. But I still had like the faith that I could maybe make it possible. Yeah. But seemed totally impossible. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's what it requires. It's a little bit of a delusion.

Yeah. I'm so delusional. I'm just like, I'm like optimistically delusional. I'm just like, I'm like optimistically delusional. I nothing's ever bad. Everything's for my greatest good. Yeah, that's a fact. I mean, that's fucking life, man. Yeah. I wish more people understood that's, like, that's kind of really all it takes. Just like perspective. But it's hard. Like, if you're down in the dumps, like that perspective's hard to have. It's hard to feel like everything's for your greatest good when you feel like you're being shit on or you know what you mean. Like, so I'm not like judging the people that like can't get there because like that's hard. Yeah. But it's not about judging. It's just about that that's this is a just sort of undebatable fact that the things that you go through that

aren't you know what you want are are allowing you to be able to actually enjoy or even get to the place that you want to be yeah people forget that I think because it's just it's it's it's easier when you're in the shit to be like yeah my life sucks and it's easier to focus on that instead of what is this teaching me what is this going to allow me to learn how can you yeah like I will I will flip anything to like be in my favor that's the key even if it's like something terrible be like, well, this happened, but at least I learned this, you know, I don't know. You just flip the scripts. Yeah, but that's a, that's a, maybe it's just a mental illness.

No, no, you know, you said you think anyone could do it. I don't disagree with that, but I think there are certain people that are able to have that lens that is just completely unfiltered with like where they're going. And if it's bad, they're able to just go, okay, fuck it. And they just keep going. Like that is a, it's a unique character trait. Yeah. I don't know if everyone has that.

I think everyone can, though. I think everyone can have that. Maybe not everyone has it, but I think everyone can have that. Yeah. What do you think it requires to have that? Because that's sort of the, that's sort of the question for everyone, again, not just W.W.E or any sort of success. It's like, what do you think you have to do?

Like for you, was it, was it writing down your goals? Was it, you know, because? No, for me it was, I'm going to change my family's life. Like that was like the initial. I was like, I'm going to change my family's life. And so that was always like, it was so powerful to me that like nothing was going to make me waver. You know what I mean? Like you're going to step in between me and changing my family's life.

Like there's no fucking shot. Like there's no way. And so that was it was such a strong purpose that I never wavered because like nothing was going to break me. Like nothing is going to stop me from changing my family's life. It's interesting though because that's more of a mask. thing than a feminine thing. Yeah. Not that there's anything wrong with that. No, it's okay. I'm quite masculine. Yeah. It's just, it's interesting. Like that's normally like a, you'd hear a man say that. Yeah, no, just five year old me. Just knew what it was. Just knew what it was. Like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna.

Was there, was there anything in your childhood that made you start to think like that? No. No. You know, I mean, I, I guess I grew up knowing like, um, you know, it's like weird to talk about because like there was so much love in my family that even though, like, our weren't normal. It didn't feel wrong because like there was so much love and we were happy even though like we were poor. Like we were so happy. And so it's like where to talk about because yeah, like we struggled a ton but there was like still so much like love that it kind of overpowered like the conditions that we were living in. But no, there was there was not, I can't pinpoint a single moment. I think I always grew up felt and like I felt like my family needs help. But I didn't know

like what that was until like I watched a movie and I just I don't know like my insides lit up. And I just it was the first time I saw something that I wanted to do also. Like I had seen these women on TV wrestling and they're like beautiful and powerful and powerful and strong. And I was just like I want to do that. And so I just like in that moment. connected the two and I was like, oh, I'm going to grow up and be a WB superstar and I'm going to cheat my family's life, you know? And so that was just, that was it. And I don't even know how to describe, like, how I knew that or why I knew that. But it's just like what I knew. It's just, it's just what I knew. And so I just like lived the rest of my life just like, trying to get closer

to that. Yeah. And your personal life now, are you, are you so concerned with finding a partner? No. Yeah. No, I have moments where I'm like, uh, Like, I'd like to find a partner, but I'm also not stressing the timing of it. Do you know, I feel like I'm so, like, immersed in my job right now. And I feel like my job in and of itself is, like, hard for people to wrap their heads around with the scheduling and all that it entails the travel. But I feel like if the right person comes along, like, I'm definitely open, but I'm not, like, actively, like, looking either. Do people actively slide in the DMs? No.

I think Dominic scares everyone away. But I don't know. I feel like stuff like that, whether it happens for me or whether it doesn't, like, I'm okay. I like told myself a long time ago, I was like, in this lifetime, I would trade success for love. Really? Yeah. And so if that's what I get out of this lifetime, like, I'm okay with it.

But if it happens, totally open to it. Like I'd love to have little me's running around. Yeah. But I believe if that's what is meant for me, like that's what I'll have. I'm not going to actively, especially right now, actively pursue anything. But if it happens, it happens. But if it doesn't, like, I'm okay knowing, like, in this lifetime, I did out what the fuck I set out to do. And that was changed my family's life.

And so I'm okay with that. And I could like settle on that. Yeah. I mean, success in a lot of ways is like a different form of love. Yeah. And I feel like I get like, like, you know, love. from millions of people around the world, my family, my friends. I'm not necessarily like missing love from like a significant other.

Do you know what I mean? Like I feel very loved. Yeah. But it's something you, if it happens, you'd be, you'd be open to it. Yeah. But also. You want kids and stuff like that. Yeah.

But if not, like I'm okay. Like I said, like I knew what I'd choose. And if I get to redo this life, like I'm going to choose it again. Yeah. So you did the right thing. I'm going to choose it again. Yeah. So with WWB and like the success you had,

what other opportunities does that create for you outside of wrestling? I think like whatever I want, really, you know. For me personally, like I'm interested in like more forms of entertainment. I love to do television. I love to do some more films. And so I think that definitely opens a door to that world. but I think the success that WB gives you opens the possibilities to whatever you want that to be. Yeah.

I think you can. You wrote in that journal you wanted to do some acting. Yeah. I've done some acting, yeah. Yeah. Do you want to do more? Yeah. I love being a character.

I love, I love tapping into someone else and seeing what I could bring to it authentically. You know, um, I love, I just love creating and I love exploring and I love, just seeing what I, I surprise myself a lot, you know? And so I feel like I'm constantly just like, damn, bitch. Like, you know, in good and bad ways. Like, I surprise myself a lot. And so I just

want to keep on giving myself the opportunity to surprise myself and just to see how good I can be or how terrible I can be. You know, I just want to give myself the opportunity to try. Yeah. What are the bad ways you surprise yourself in? Um, uh, not, It's not bad, but I, I'm such like a savage in a way. I can tell. I'm such a savage in a way. Like, I really don't be caring. And not in a, it's weird.

I just, I don't know. I feel like you could take everything from me and, like, throw me on the street and I'll be like, I'll figure it out. Like, I'll be okay. You know what I mean? Like, I just, I don't know. I don't know. I just feel like, I don't know how to verbalize what I'm trying to say, but I feel like you pick up with energy. No, I get it.

I get it. That I'm putting down, I just feel like I'm like a fucking savage looking at the end of the day. And so that surprises me when it when it pops out. So if you had to, if you, on that, if you, if you were thrown to the curve, which you never would be at this point, if you had to start completely over, how would you do it? I don't know. I don't know. But so what I'm saying is like if I did get kicked to the curb and I had to start completely over, I think I'd be okay with just like existing, just doing nothing. With minimal.

Minimal. Like, would I even want to start over? You know, like, I might just, like, rock out on the street and just be like, well, we had a good run. Sound like me, dude. We had a good run. Yeah. You know, I don't know.

I just, I'm blessed. And, like, I love everything that I have. I love the life that I was able to, like, make for myself. But also, I know, like, I have that savage during me. If it was all taken from me, like, yeah. We're going to keep on chucking along and what that looks like. I don't know. Yeah.

But like, I don't need anything. You know, like, I don't need anything. You're like, in the sense of, like, material stuff and... Anything. Damn, you're just a savage, aren't? Like, humans, possessions. Like, I can be okay with just, like, me at the end of the day. And if that's, like, the cards that were given to me, this could all be bullshit.

In my mind, this is how I feel. But in reality, if it happened, I don't know if I feel the same way. But in my mind, like, I don't know. You think you've always felt that way? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's why you have it. I think that's like the little girl in me that thought like I was potentially going to grow up and make nothing out of my life.

And so I became okay with like the idea of nothing. And so now that that wasn't the case, I'm still okay with the idea of like nothingness, if that makes sense. Yeah. It's also interesting. It's probably why you have what you have because you were okay with it if it wasn't. Yeah. Because I think a lot of people hold on to like the idea it has to be this way. My life has to look like this.

And they get stuck like just in that, that energy of I need this instead of allowing themselves to actually go and get it. They get stuck at that point of I need this and I don't have it. I need this and I don't have it. And they go in those cycles. But it's like, you know, humans are just so funny. And I think it's just like really like what you're exposed to, what you're around, your upbringing. I don't know. It's like it's different for everyone.

You know? I just grew up like a savage, so I am like low key, a savage, even though my life now is not representative of that. But I know like I have that in me. But like, you know, maybe John who grew up with a happy family, very privileged, you know, maybe they can't tap into the same degree. Yeah. I don't know. You know, everyone's just different. Yeah, I could, I definitely could live super minimal.

Yeah. Like I'm, I think I could live like on the street. That's insane. I could. I could live in a van. I could live in a van. I think I could live off the street and like. Like in like a hut, like a little tent.

I feel like I could have a cardboard and like eat out the garbage. No. If it came down to it. No. I do. I think if it came down to it. If that's like there was eggs in there. No, I'll be hungry.

I'm not going to eat the eggs. But also that's like my idea of me. And that's like what I believe. But like is that really true? I don't know. But that's like what I believe. So you're just, you just. Yeah, you have the ability to just like, I can do anything, sounds like.

Because you believe that, like, I don't know that I could, but I believe if I like tried hard enough, I could maybe do anything. But I just mean if like everything got taken from me, I think I'd, I think I'd like, fuck it out. And I'd, like, pull through and just be like, fuck, okay. What if you found out the earth was flat? Do you think the earth's flat? I don't know what I think there does. I think it's round.

So it was a trolling question. No, I think it's round. I don't fucking know if it's flat. Are you religious? You know, I've been on a journey. Really? Yeah. Like lately?

Yeah, like the last five or so months. Which religion? I think I think I might have found God. So Christianity or like, yeah. I started reading the Bible. Did you? Yeah. Really?

How's that for you? It's interesting because it's sort of just like a collection of almost everyone's not everyone's experiences obviously it's about God and you know all the different people but like how everyone describes their experience there's like so many similarities yes yeah how we all go through whether it's like betrayal or like winning or lose all those different sort of emotions it sort of encompasses all of that yeah and how to deal with that yeah so it is it is it is I'm really enjoying it but that's good it's a lot yeah it's a lot so what got you what brought you closer to that um yeah sounds cliche but I just felt like a calling

I there was just scenarios that had happened that were like felt like coincidence coincidence um yeah that's what but i just felt like oh maybe i'm supposed to like dive into or try to start a relationship with god or approach a relationship with god i didn't grow up very religious i've been to church a couple times it didn't really feel like it resonated with me yeah i get that when my whole adult life um not not believing in god but not actively, openly believing in God. Like, you know, it's like weird. Like, before I wrestle, I would do the sign of the cross every single time without fail.

But in the same token of doing that at the same time, like, I had questioned like if God was real. Yeah. But still every day before I wrestle, I'm doing the sign of the cross, but still would question if God was real. And so that's kind of been like my whole life really until a couple months ago, just coincidences here and there that just like kind of like made me feel obliged to like try to tap in a little bit. And so I've just been on my own little journey. But I believe and it makes me like cry. It brings like tears to my eyes because like I can feel like the unconditional love. Do you know what I mean?

And that like breaks me because I can feel that. And so I'm not reading the Bible, but I do have like this daily devotional that I read every day that I started on the new year that I really enjoy. And it starts my day off like in a good head space. And so I'm not like, I don't know where I am in the scale of religious and religion, but I'm definitely on my own journey that I'm like appreciating. And I'm, I'm happy with. Yeah. I relate to the thing because when it comes to,

I'm not a big fan of organized religion and going to church. Yeah. That never resonated with me either because it always just felt like, I don't know, I felt forced. Yeah. I don't know why. And also I feel like some churches don't represent like God in the, way that I see him like I see him as like ever loving and forgiving and unconditional then you'll

like drive by a church it's like God died for your sins he's fucking mad that you're not in church right now you know what I mean it's like God's like wow God's not mad at me like it's God you know like I see him as just like this like unconditional that's because they're like come over here and give us money yeah you know and so I feel like that also maybe plagued me a little bit growing up that did to me just how it was represented but now you know being an adult and being well it's like kind of like um nourished my own relationship with him in my own way, um, has been cool.

Yeah. Have you noticed that has helped you at all? Yeah. Yeah. Just like, um, more of just like an overall trusting and like a relief. Um,

maybe not as scared or nervous because I feel like he's like got my back. You know what I mean? Yeah. Kind of take the load off of any anxieties or pressures. I still feel anxieties and pressures, but I'm also like, able to like center myself and kind of like

breathe them off and just know that like God's got me and like I'm okay when do you feel most anxious um anything pertaining to like wrestling nothing else no that's probably like my biggest like anxieties is like performance anxiety and just like

making sure that even after doing it for so many years yeah that's how much I love it I still care yeah no it doesn't go away I'm like dry heaving in garbage cans, you know. Before the show? Mm-hmm. What?

Mm-hmm. No. Like you're just, is it the idea that you're, you might fuck up or like? Um, I think it's a lot. I think it's adrenaline. I think it's nerves. Maybe it was the beans. Excitement.

The beans. Just the combo of all of it. Just giving me such an overwhelming body feeling, feeling so many things at once. But I'm about to go on live TV in 30 seconds. So I have to like cut that shit out right now. You know, just like all of that. It's like, it's a lot. It's just a lot of feelings mixed and wrapped into like one thing.

But I feel like the last couple of weeks, the last, like since I've been back, really, I came back November 29th. I feel like I've had like a better grip. I think because of God. Yeah, I was going to say. I think I, yeah, I think because of God. And so it's just, I don't know. I've just, I've just been on my own journey.

And it's kind of the first one I'm talking. about it so I don't even really know how to like verbalize these things. But it's been nice. And it's been like a good change of pace. Yeah. So what, but not talking about so much guy right now, but wrestling, what makes you the most nervous is just like. Like failing.

Yeah. Failing. But how would you fail? Like fuck something up completely? Yeah. And that's not failing. But to me that's failing. Like to me that's failing.

I feel like, and I know this is like totally a me thing. like I'm like aiming for perfection and I know that's like not a thing I know perfect's not a thing I know I know it's not a thing but like in wrestling like that's what I'm aiming for I'm aiming for like perfection and so just a thought that maybe I'm going to mess up out there is enough to like make me sick but they you guys practice so much as far as like behind the scenes it's not what you think. It's not what you think. No. It's not what you think. People think we're out there for hours and days. It's like it's not what you think. We're professionals in the sense that we can do what we do with no prep. Like that's where like the professionalism really comes in. It's not, it is the live TV and

it's the cameras, but it's like, can we go out there on short notice and make these adjustments because we were just were told something else and what we originally thought we were doing? Like, that's where like the professionalism comes in is like we're going to adapt and adjust in seconds notice. Yeah. That's fucking, I mean, that's impressive. It's crazy. That's cool. So you're excited for WrestleMania? I'm so excited. You kidding me? 11 years of hard work to finally win the Rumble, to finally head into WrestleMania and to walk out a champion.

Yeah. I'm excited. You think you're going to win? Yeah. No matter who you select. Yeah. Yeah. I have to.

Yeah. I'm winning. My family's going. You kidding me? I'm winning. You're crying for sure if you lose. Oh, I'm a cry baby. I'm crying if I win.

I'm crying if I win. If I lose, I'll lose graciously. But I'm crying if I win. Either way, you're crying? No, I won't cry if I lose, but I'll cry if I win. You just be mad if you lose. It's kind of the name of the game. Yeah.

You win some, you lose some. But I'm going to cry if I win. Damn. Well, that's excited. I'm going to go to it for sure. Are you? Do you have tickets? No, not yet.

No? I was going to ask Dom. Yeah? Yeah. Try to scalp some tickets. Let him up, see. Maybe I'll ask you. I feel like you can get me tickets, couldn't you?

Yeah. No, I loved, I'm telling you, I loved it last time I went. I was like, this is insane. Yeah, well, you went to WrestleMania. You went to the best show you can go to. I could not believe, like, because I've gone to other sporting events, these people who watch WrestleMania or watch wrestling, I don't have been to any other one, so I actually wouldn't really know.

but what I experienced was like if people were wrestling, they were in their seats 100%. Like no one, like, you know, people go to the bathroom in these like in between breaks. But it's like, it's fucking crazy to see how big that is. They packed the whole fucking thing,

the Allegiance Stadium. Yeah, we do. But does that is like the pressure, I mean, I guess the pressure would go into like you failing or fucking up. It never really gets you. I feel like. Like, do you feel like you black out when you go out there in a way?

No, I don't black out, but I definitely like tap in. I definitely. tap in. I don't black out, but I definitely tap in. But I don't feel more pressure on certain shows. Like, to me, like, to me, like, WrestleMania is the same to me as, like, Monday Night Raw. Like, I don't feel more pressure at WrestleMania. It's insane, though. I just tell you. I don't feel more pressure. It's, like, the same to me. You don't understand, like, what's going on to my body. You're a savage. That's right. No, I'm, I'm, like, I couldn't imagine having more nerves

and how I feel, like, on a Monday Night Raw. You know what I mean? So, like, more nervous or WrestleMania is like not a thing. I'm already maxed down on nerves. Yeah. So it's like the same nerves for both shows. Yeah, that makes sense. Does it? Yeah.

I want to go so bad. Go. I'm going to go. I'm going to try to get you ticket. I'll see. You got to be able to pull some strings, man. I'm going to try. If not, then I'm going to hit up Dom and I'm going to try.

So you win WrestleMania. Then like where does it go from there? You have to just keep defending this? Yeah, whatever I want. I'm a champion. I just go on a chaotic, messy. iconic title rain. Is there any real beef with anyone?

Like real beef? With me? No. I'm not going to beef with anyone. No. We're going to work it out. We're not going to get to any levels of beef. I don't see the point.

What are we going to fight over? What are we fighting about right now? And why are you mad at me? You know what I mean? I'm not mad at you. So why are you mad at me? I just, I don't know.

I just, yeah, because, you know, people obviously they want, they want to be number one just like you want to be number one. You're going to fight me for it?

You're going to be mad at me because I'm number one and you're not? I'm not mad at you if you're number one and I'm not. Because I know I'm going to be number one eventually. I'm not mad at you because you're number one. It's on my spot. Yeah. You know? I just want to see a fucking.

No, not out of me. Not out of me. What is it like behind the scenes? Like, what do you mean? But like, you know, you guys walk out before you walk out. What is that like back there? Well, we're in what we call like guerrilla position. and it's where our producers and our bosses sit and time to show, watch a show,

make sure everything's going according to plan. So it's like you walk into this room and you see tons of monitors, tons of people sitting at monitors, whomever else is watching from that room. And then there's a curtain. And then once you go through that curtain, you're out for the world. Do you ever get any say in what happens? Like, what do you mean? Like, am I actively writing the show?

No, but do I have creative liberties? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But that's like something you earn. You don't just get creative liberties. Like you have to like earn to be able to be trusted to have like creative liberties.

When do you, when would you say you earn that? Um, probably like 2024. I feel like it's got to feel good. Yeah. It does. Because that means like they know that I know my shit and I take pride in them knowing that I know my shit. Yeah. Who, I kind of asked you this earlier, but who do you think you've learned the most from in the space?

That's a hard one because, like, yeah, I feel like you can learn something from anyone, you know? So I feel like there's tons of things that I've learned from a lot of people. But I feel like as far as, like, women that's to get to me right away as you ask me that, like, Bailey and Natalia and T.J. Wilson, I've just done Bailey since I've started my career. She's always been just, like, an ear and a helping hand for me always. And Natty and T.J. have, like, given me so much time to train me in their, um, their rest of the time. wrestling ring the dungeon 2.0. I've spent so many hours with them that really I feel like their training and their time in me took me next level. Yeah. Um, in ring wise. And so I feel like they suggest me right away. But honestly, like you learn from everyone. I feel like there's something

you can learn from anyone about anything. Um, but definitely not even Bailey. What do you think the most difficult thing to learn is? Honestly, it's all hard. It's all hard. It's all hard. Like there's nothing really like easy about what we do like learning how to bump is hard. Learning wrestling moves is hard. Learning how to put like your flavor on wrestling moves is hard. Learning how to cut a promo is hard. Learning how to control the crowd is hard. Learning to be comfortable.

Like just standing there being you is hard. Like it's all like hard to a degree and like unnatural to a degree. I don't know that there's anything like harder because it was all really hard for me. Like nothing was nothing, none of it was natural to me. And growing up a fan, I thought like, I'm going to come in and I'm going to kill shit. And like I didn't. I didn't. It was very hard for me, all of it.

And so for me, it was all hard. It's all hard, really. What do you think is the hardest thing if you had to take? From a viewer standpoint? Yeah. I guess the, I don't know, it just seems like the falling stuff over time could just fuck you up. It's hard. And while like, obviously you're like adrenaline, not having that dump so hard that you're like exhausted

and then still having to continue, that seems very difficult. It's hard. You know, it's hard, like, the aftermath of, like, going out and having hundreds of thousand people chant for you and millions of people watching at home. And then you go home to an empty hotel room. And, like, the stimulus is like, you know what I mean? Like, that's a weird, that's a weird thing in and of itself. Like, I feel like that can, like, mess with your sense of self a little bit.

Like, I feel like that's hard, you know? And like and then like your dopamine levels are not even what normal dopamine levels are because you're exposed to such a high level of dopamine. That like your normal levels are like you're just like, yeah, this is yeah, this is this is cool I guess. You know what I mean? Yeah. Maybe that's why you feel like you just when you're done with it, you're just like, I'm fucking exhausted. I just want to chill. Yeah.

Who knows? Yeah, because that's nuts, man. That level of like hype. Yeah, like you're not tired. You know what I mean? Like even though you're like exhausted like you're not. tired because you just have so much adrenaline. But then you're going home to like your hotel room.

Not home, but you're going back to your hotel room. Like immediately after where you're just like looking around your room like shit. What do you do? You scroll? Yeah. Well, I, um, no, I, I always share a room with one of the girls from work. Raquel Rodriguez, my taxi partner. She's in the judgment day with me.

We always share a room because we're always just like laughing and we get along really well. But like I feel like that makes it easier too. You know what I mean? I'm going to go and hang out with my best friend now and we're going to laugh and enjoy life. versus like I'm gonna you don't I feel like you're the type person to go immediately and look like how you how people are responding oh I'm looking right away I'm looking right away but I'm like curious not because like I am looking for anything particularly but I'm like what what's the what's the consensus like what's what's going on here but also I want to watch my shit back like I want to see like I'm going to nitpick the shit out of myself yeah you seem that way yeah like did I do this oh I can do it's differently next time I'm watching that shit 37 times Damn. With the sound up. You think I could be a wrestler?

I do. Oh, damn, that was... I do. I would love to do it. Give it a try. I think I could beat Dom. You think you can be Dom or beat?

Beat Dom. I don't think you can beat Dominic, but I think you can be a wrestler. I think straight up first time. I'm trolling. I'm trolling. I think I'm coming there and take you. Take me what?

From him. I think the reason why you have to. I had no one else to say earlier because I wasn't there. What do you mean? Like if I was in it, then you would have said me. Oh, you think so? Yeah. 100% easily.

You might be in for a hurt awakening, pal. Oh, look over you're like, nah. Yeah, that seems so fun though. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's so much fun. I never feel like I'm working. You know, I never feel like I'm working.

I feel like I don't have a job. Yeah, that's a blessing. Like, I forget I have a job. That's a fucking blessing. It's a blessing. And I look at other. and I hope that like they're as happy in their job. Because like loving your job, what a blessing.

And I just hope that everyone like loves their job. Well, they don't. I'll tell you right now. I feel like it makes life so much better. It's a very sweet thing to say. Yeah, but I hope everyone loves their job. I hope so too. And you know, like why can't they love their job?

Why can everyone love their job? You can, everyone can love their job. You asking me because I can answer it? Yeah. I think because they're picking something that is not really something that speaks to them actually. I think they pick something that they're told. hold they're supposed to do or this is the right thing to do or their parents said, you should do this or they listen to their friends who are like,

that's too hard, do this instead. Yeah, I just wish people would just like follow their dreams and just like do what they want. Well, it sounds like exactly what you did. And it worked. I guess people are afraid is just the fear of it not working. Yeah.

I'm not scared of that. I'm not scared of shit not working. I feel like right now in like life, like I'm really big on like just trying anything. Things that, not anything. like shit that I wouldn't necessarily be interested in or things that I don't necessarily think I'm good at.

I'm really big on like looking back and being like, I should not have done that versus like, I wish I did that. You know, so I'm always going to like veer towards like, fuck it. Like would you skydive? I've done it. Yeah. Would you go in a cage with sharks? I'm scared of sharks, but I would do it.

I would do it. What are you most afraid of besides failure? Like drowning. I'm not scared of failure either. Like I know I probably really makes it seem like I'm scared of failure, but I'm not scared of failure. I don't want to fail, but I'm not scared of it. And why are you driving even before the show? Because I love it so much.

So it's performance anxiety. Yeah. I'm not thinking I'm going to go out there and fail. I'm like, oh my God, this shit's crazy and I have so much adrenaline. And I want to do great. Blah, you know. You can't throw up that much. You're so tiny.

No, I don't throw up. I'll like spit up like a little baby, you know. I'll have like a little bit of foam. And I'm just like, blah. You got to stop drinking the milk. Yeah. Yeah, just need to get it out really quick. Okay, so April, what is it, April 14th?

What's the date? No, bro. April 18th and 19th. My bad. My bad. April 18th, 19th, WrestleMania, 42, right? Are there any surprises planned? I don't know.

God damn it. Genuinely, I don't know. We're on the road to WrestleMania. We're going to find out. It's going to be a great show. I can tell you that much. I know it's going to be a banger. I know we're going to, you know.

Is it going to be stuff? Stephanie? I don't know. I think of McMahon. I'm like, she was being inducted into the Hall of Fame. Yes. You know, which I'm super excited for that. I just know it's going to be a great show. Last year we had like our most successful WrestleMania ever as far as viewership and attendance. And so obviously we're going to go bigger, go home this year. As far as the actual show, I don't know. We're on the road to WrestleMania. So I believe in the next couple of weeks we'll know more and we'll learn more. But everyone wants to go to WrestleMania to you know what I mean, actors, musicians. entertainers. So much fun. Everyone wants to be there. So I'm sure there's going to be some fun surprises. Yeah, what's your, what's your perspective on that? How they,

I think Travis Scott showed up to some stuff, like how they start blending sort of mainstream. Yeah. Well, I think it's because everyone wants to be involved. Yeah. So it's like, cool. You know,

you want to be involved and bring more eyes to our audience and vice versa. And we have this cool collaboration where everyone's like winning. Yeah. I don't care if people come to WWE. You know what you mean? But so as far as celebrities like sort of getting

involved like in performances. Is there anyone that you would really like to sort of share the performance with anyone specific? Like Britney Spears. That'd be fucking legendary. Holy shit. Brittany.

I'm such a Britney fan. I don't feel like she does anything anymore. I would love. Can you imagine Bernie Spears shows up to like Monday Night Raw or WrestleMania? She's so iconic. She's so iconic in my mind. She could do no wrong.

I'm so happy for her. She just living her life. Yeah, she's chilling now. I would love to mix it up with Britney. Brady would be crazy Pretty would be crazy Iconic Yeah that's cool

I thought you were to said me But that's okay Obviously I'm not at that level It's all good So what else are you doing in L.A? And when are you going to come work out? Just chilling I have a gym out here

You should come work out Yeah where is it? Ten Encino How far is that from like West Hollywood Ten minutes 15 minutes Okay you know I need a gym here I just got an apartment here

for like part time for like when I'm in the area. And so yeah, I'm just here this week just doing a bunch of nothing. I have Raquel here with me actually. We would love to work out. We don't have a gym yet. I was thinking of sending up at Equinox. You think I should sign up by your gym and said? No, you don't need to sign up.

I'll just give you a membership. I don't mind supporting. Oh, no. I'll pay for the- No, I give people memberships all the time. I'll pay the fees. No, no. I appreciate that.

Because I need to work out today. No, yeah, you can go there today. Okay, cool. Yeah, I'm not kidding, actually. What's it called? No, I'm done. I'm so serious. Yeah, it's called Zincol.

Yeah, absolutely. I want to write it down. Yeah, write it down. Save that for later, but we got to do a workout too. What do I have to do? Do you say your name at the door? Yeah, that's it. Can I bring a guest?

Yeah. I can't tell if you're fucking with me because I'm being serious. I'll say your name at the door and be like, he said I can come through. 100%. And I actually own the gym, so it's like they would just have to ask me. Cool. I know. That is pretty cool, huh?

That is really cool. Does Dom own a gym? No, but I'm sure if you wanted to be better than yours. It doesn't own a gym. I on a gym. What's like the gimmick of your gym? Gimick? Yeah.

No gimmick. What's like the real shit? It's a gym? It's a good gym. Yeah. No, I started it in 2017. Mm-hmm. And I think the reason why I really got popular was because of my social media presence,

but I allowed people to like make content in there. So it's like a lot of people filming content. But if you go now, there won't be many. Most people are there around like 11 o'clock when they're filming content. Yeah, don't worry. I won't be there. I like to like. I don't know, the pandemic ruined me with gyms.

I haven't stepped foot in like a public gym since like 2020. Because of the fucking mass thing or what? No, I like, well, so when the gyms closed, everyone made their home gyms. And so I got, I never closed my gym by the way. That's awesome. Yeah, I said fuck California. But that's a whole other conversation. I just got really like accustomed to like working out in my garage with no shoes on.

And so that's what I like. You can work out with no shoes in my gym? Can I? Absolutely. Socks. I'll do socks. Socks. Whatever you want.

All those heels. Not these heels. I was going to take them off to do this interview, but I kept them on. My feet hurt. You can take them off. They can't see your feet. I feel like we're nearing the end now and I've already powered through. I'm going to just keep them on.

But yeah, I like to like, yeah, savage. Yeah, I like to just work out in my little socks and my sweatpants. And I just want the machine available when I want to use it. And so I feel soured when I have to go to actual gyms now because the machine's maybe not available. And maybe it's frowned upon. so they just have my little sockies on. Yeah, they'll kick you out of Equinox for that. Soskos.

I'm not sending up for Equinox now. There it is. Because I can't have shoes on. I just can't do it. My toes don't like it. I don't want to work out with shoes on. What's the workout routine that does the WWW require? Obviously, they don't require you to work out.

They require you to perform and to show up. No, you're not really honestly required to do anything. Once you make it to raw or Smackdown, you're no longer in developmental. You're kind of left to your own devices. So your successes. are kind of like how hard you want to work is how hard you want to work. Yeah. But so you're you consider yourself like a gym girl?

Um, I'm not like a yes and no. Like I'm in the gym five days a week, but like am I like a gym girl? I don't know. I feel like nowadays I'm just trying to like stay healthy, maintain a good physique. Um,

I want to cut up a little bit. But I don't know that I'm like, I don't know. To me, gym girl is like I'm spending three hours a day there. Like I'm not. I'm going to be in there for 45 minutes an hour and I'm going to get my shit done and I'm going to leave. How many pull-ups can you do?

I could do like four. That's good. That's good. If I had double soldier surgery, so I'm like happy with four. I used to be able to be really good at pull-ups and after my first surgery, I never did a pull-up again. But now the second surgery in my other shoulder, I was like, I want to get pull-ups. But I could do like four straight arm, slow and controlled pull-ups. I might be able to do more, but I've only have tried for four, then I'm like, all right.

but I might be able to do more. How much can you squat? I haven't tried to max squat in forever, but the last time I tried to max squat, I was still in developmental, and I think I squatted like 246, and I'm 130. That's great.

For 130 is good. But I have not tried to max in forever. I'm like not, it's not appealing to me anymore. I'm like, not trying to like give it more, but I'm definitely trying to like, maintain and get stronger.

And so that's like kind of like my wheelhouse right now. After wrestling, what hurts the most after wrestling for you? Oh, I was like, I don't know what you mean, I'm healthy. I don't know.

I feel good. Like what part of your body gets the most sore? Like my ego. No, I'm actually okay. I don't know, like aches and pains here and there, but like it's not like my neck or my shoulders.

Like, you know what I mean? Like achy, maybe in some spots, but I'm not like, like ever in like, ow, this hurts. Yeah, I get it.

Yeah. It makes sense. Yeah. But achy, you know, but nothing crazy. Yeah. I just think, I feel like my neck would just get fucked up all the time. You don't think you have a strong neck?

I got a strong neck, but I don't know. It'll be good. Yeah, I'll be good. You just need to tuck your chin. Yeah. I might hurt it more. Dude, I want to do it. I want to try.

I'm going to go try out. You should at least get in a ring. and play around and see if you really want to do it. A lot of people think they want to do it until they get in the ring and I'm not saying that's you. But like it's it's it's not what people anticipate it is. They jump in the ring and they try to bounce like it's a trampoline. It's like no bitch.

You're on plywood and metal. Like you're not going to bounce. No. And see, yeah, it's not like I have a ring in my, in my gym in my backyard. And the first time my brother came over, he got in there and tried to jump. And I was like, it's not bouncy like you think.

He went on the top rope. Do you know what a leg drop is? Yeah. He did a top rope leg drop onto nothing. And the sound that he made when he clunked onto the mat and the look in his eyes, I knew like he had hurt himself. You know what I mean? Like he jumped up, thought he was going to bounce up and be like, we.

It's like, no, he probably did a little bit of damage there. He looked at me like, you know, and how. I was like, I was like, oh shit. And so, yeah, people think that it's bouncy. They think they're going to jump and bounce and fly through the air. It's like, no, bro. Have you ever gotten injured like bad in the ring? Yeah, I've had double shoulder surgery.

But like, were you, so you're still performing? You're still like, you have to just like, say fuck it. No, I had a tap out full time. I was like, I'm done. So the first time I dislocated my shoulder. It happened. Like it popped out? Yeah, dislocated it completely.

It happened at the end of the segment. So I was like, okay, good. I can just go to the back. Yeah. The most recent time it happened. It happened like five. seconds into my match. The match has just started. And I landed and knew right away. And so I just had to roll out because I couldn't lift my arm. I can't go 10 more minutes. How does that work? So

you have to give a cue to someone, right? No, I rolled down. I said, I'm done. I was like, look at this. I try to like pop it back in and it just was not happening. And so I couldn't lift my arm. I couldn't use it. So it was just like I can no longer continue. And that sucked. Are you kidding? I was upset. I was more upset about the fact. that like, ooh, I can't even finish versus like I just dislocated in my arm. I was like, I have to just like eat that and just be like I'm done because like I couldn't move my arm. That would suck.

Fuck that. It did. It did. Well, no more injuries. Don't get injured anymore. Right. I know. Be strong.

I feel strong. I feel strong and I feel healthy. I think I'm pretty sure I'm like done. Done with injuries. Yeah. God. I can need to knock on some. I know.

I'm trying to find wood. I'm looking around. I'm like, you got no wood in this. whole entire studio. There's not one piece of wood. Yeah, it's modern. I need to go to farm. I'm good, though.

I don't even think that way. I don't even like that we said that out loud. I'm healthy. I'm strong. No injuries. I'm going to go to the rest of my career. Just healthy. Strong.

That's the mentality. There you go. Well, I appreciate you coming on, genuinely. Thank you. Awesome. Let's go to the gym.

I'll go with you. I'm not going to go right now. I need to, I want to change my clothes. I need to my little toesies a little rusty for a little bit. You're not about it. I got to get. get Raquel. I'm about it. I need to get Raquel. She wants to work out too.

Where's Raquel? She's in West Hollywood. She's at the apartment waiting for me. I'm going to go to the gym today. When does it close? Is it 24 hours? I'll keep it open for you. You don't need to do all that. I'll just go tomorrow. Then I'm not trying to. No, it's up until, what's today? It's up until 10. Oh, yeah. And I could just show up before 10 and be like. Yeah. All right. Anytime. No shoes. No shoes. You could wear a little sock feet, things, whatever you have. Cool. Well, well, you should wear. You should wear a little sock. You should wear. that you should do the workout on heels. No.

Be a real savage. I'm taking these off as soon as I get in the car. I'm done, bro. I've been on since 9 a.m. Do you like L.A.? Um, like yes and no. There's things about L.A. that I like.

I don't, I would never live here full time. I like having my apartment here for when I'm here and I can have a home base and just like my things and not a hotel. Um, I like New York better. You like New York better than L.A.? Yeah.

Damn. I love the energy of New York. Do you have places? in different cities like that you have an apartment here no but i want to i want to get an apartment in new york that's like my next thing yeah i was actually supposed to do new york before l.a but l a opportunity just kind of arose first so i snatched it but i really wanted the new york apartment yeah but i'm happy i have the l a lay apartment i don't like new york why i don't know like i like being there for a little bit i like eating the food because there's so much good like options

i like the energy yeah i guess maybe that's for me it's just too much i want to walk downstairs and get a hot dog from the cart too much for me and i want to walk to broadway and then I want someone to throw a cigarette at me and I'm going to dodge it. It's almost like training. I want like I love New York. I love to go to New York. I like I like this go to,

but not as much as New York. Yeah. I like Broadway, you know, I like a show. Broadway's not Broadway here. It's only Broadway in New York. Yeah, that's fair. You've definitely put on a show.

It's probably why you like a show. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. It's a blessing. I'm glad you're getting closer to God. Are you? Yeah. Do you mean that?

I do mean that. You said it like not so genuine. Really? You meant it? I did mean it. Okay. Thank you. Me too.

It's been interesting. It's been a journey. I'm glad that you're reading the Bible. Do you mean that? Did I say it like I meant it? I said it like how you said it. You're funny. I'm glad you're reading the Bible.

Yeah, no. That was good. I'm glad you're reading the Bible. Now you hit it for real. Are you going to start reading it? No. I'll send you verses. Um, you know, in my little Sarah Young daily devotional, there's Bible verses in there.

You got that? Yeah. Okay. I won't send them. Yeah. I'll send them to them to you. If one really resonates. And if you think I need to know it, send that one.

Okay. All right. Fair. Well, thank you so much. Is there anything else you want to say to the fans? Because if they're here, they likely love you at this point. No. I feel like you guys got a lot of shit today.

I feel like I said some things I never said before. So I feel like you guys are fed for the day. And I appreciate you watching and joining in. I'm going to go sign up for his gym. You should too. No, don't sign up. Don't sign up. I get a free membership.

I'm not signing up. I love you guys. I'll see you every Tuesday. 11 o'clock. See you guys next time. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely.