RAWTALK - LOGAN PAUL'S MESSAGE TO JAMES CHARLES!

Episode Date: May 14, 2019

I got to sit down with the one and only Logan Paul! This was one of my favorite podcast as I got to talk to Logan about his journey after his incident in Japan. Logan also shares his message to James Charles...... Trust me you don't want to miss this podcast!

podcast today um you came solo today i'm surprised i never i've never actually seen you just solo solo solo bro i took a drive two days ago yeah and uh up into the mountains just to like relax and clear my mind and i saw my friends hiking and i was alone and they're like they said the same thing what are you doing alone they go you're alone and i was like yeah uh but you ran into your friends where the what the fuck were you liking at bro i'm gonna be honest i kicked everyone out of the house, bro. Like, not to get deep right away, but is that my camera, by the way? Wait. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Even the people that live there. I was having a day. I was pouting. Are they actually out of your house now? No, no, no. Sorry. Temporarily. I was, I said,

everyone get out. No, I was like, I said, guys, can you please make arrangements to sleep elsewhere tonight? Like, I, like, I just need a night to myself. I was having a bad day. Um, that house you live, it's your house. They all live with you, all these people. Yeah. Because it's like a production facility. Yeah, yeah. How is that? It's, uh, it's, you got to find the, the balance between, uh, being their friend and being their boss.

And it, it gets tricky, dude. I'm not going to lie, it's not ideal, but it's also fucking awesome because we can turn out content whenever we want, you know, whenever we feel like it. And everyone, we're so used to being around each other, like Spencer and Mike are both on the podcast. Yeah. So we know what jokes we're going to say. We know, we're used to each other's energy.

Like, it's, that's got us. benefits he's got to manage it well makes sense sounds stressful sometimes it is but evans the evan the dwarf dwarf mamba he's the only one who doesn't technically work for me which is and i don't like own a percentage of him or anything so like i'm trying to keep that as healthy as possible yeah yeah so talk about stress uh you know what's going on right now god damn charles oh oh two wait two times what no wait two times what were you going to go i was just two times I thought you were leading me to talk about stress Because like verbatim you said talk about stress

Yeah, no No, I mean this is a different kind of stress I talk about James Charles stress Well, you know about the stress of the internet Yeah, big fun And I know about the stress of the internet Yeah, yeah This is rough

So it's crazy you know it's yeah this is uh Hey, I'm gonna talk about this in my podcast too So just be ready I might repeat myself It's fine like I've So real quick real quick I just want to say something about this Obviously I if people don't know what's going on James Charles is a beauty YouTuber, right?

Yeah. And another beauty YouTuber made a video and was like, I don't even, I didn't even watch these videos in their entirety. Did you attempt? I tried. How far did you like it? About four, maybe four minutes into the tattoo? I made it two and a half minutes in hers.

Because I was just like, all right, obviously they have a problem. Right? Yeah, man, obviously. And then I just saw everything on Twitter and I can, okay, number one, I remember shit went down with you and I text you. Which, which, uh, which one? Which one? The forest one. Okay, the forest day. Okay. I text you because I was like, because I was like, yo, my dad did this to himself when I was young. And I remember and you were, and this was, this is not the internet. This is not an open. You were genuinely and you were sincere. You were like, I fucked up. Yeah. And the thing that

I hate about this shit because I experienced this shit, I don't know anything, what anyone did. I got attacked on the internet for some dumb shit. And it just became like, minute someone said something it didn't it didn't matter it nothing else mattered it was just like that's what happened someone said that and then everyone jumps on this like let's make video let's talk shit like let's get views and like because what's happening right now is this dude's going from 16 million to like 13 and she's gone from after she made the video 6 million to almost 10 so she's gained almost 2 million subscribers he's lost 2.2 million I bet she's going to end up with 4 million look at she started at she she started at 6 million

Oh, she gained like $3 million. She's almost had four. Oh my God. Bro, what the fuck? I've never seen anything like this. Granted, I'm 24 and like my life isn't that. I haven't seen much, but like, this is crazy. So I want to talk about the, you went through this shit.

No, no, not this, not this, not this. Not this, obviously. You didn't go through this. You did something different. But what advice you have? Because the internet's attacking this guy hard. They attacked you. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, let me, let me explain it. phenomenon which is why I said no I didn't go through this I don't know why after my controversy Japan yeah bro I gained a million subscribers I know and everyone's talking about that now too I'm like everyone everyone's like Logan Paul gain followers what the fuck like what the fuck I don't know he's lost 2.2 million I did and by the way and it's going fast my shit was

nine times worse yeah I don't know if you read into this I know no no I'm not sure I I understand. No, what I know is, what I know is he, he promoted, he promoted a vitamin company that wasn't her, exactly. And then he, I guess he tried to have sex with straight guys or something. But it's like that, I feel like that's been going on forever. And so that's the thing that gets me. She made a video.

Is that it, Steve? Is that what, is that what his video was about? I'm pretty sure that's it. That she, that she had a company and he promoted a different company. Yeah, and mind you, mind you, bro. I don't want to say hate I highly dislike James Charles I do not like that kid

he kicked me when I was down He harassed me on Twitter Talk shit about me Hopped on the train Like fuck Logan Paul train And like I clocked that I'm like okay so this dude like Here I am in this vulnerable time

And he's spitting in my face While I'm on the ground So I was like Okay I text you I text your ass Yeah I know yeah always Which by the way I really appreciate, bro.

Like, my true friends, the people who really care about me always come out of the woodwork there. And by the way, I'm actually always pleasantly surprised. It's like, I tend to get a lot of support. But, like, this kid, like, I see through all this YouTube stuff, bro. I could, I'm not going to say it publicly. I could write down a list of everyone who's going to get exposed on YouTube. And James Charles, this was his time. The thing about me was my controversy, bro, like, I was the one who shot myself in the foot.

There's no, there's no, like, look at Paul. I'm like, nope, what you see is what you get. You just did it. You did it. Mediocally nice douchebag, but like that, I'm being honest about that. Yeah. But I got to say, even though I really don't like James Charles or what he stands for, I'm not sure I understand what the fucking problem is.

Do you know, I mean, like I get it. You did things you shouldn't have, but losing 2.2 million. These are the two things, right? The gay. I believe so. trying to have sex with straight guys and it's predatory they're calling it so can we talk about that for a sec yeah i mean i don't i feel like that's been going on forever let let me say that yeah bro that's been going on forever let me say this so you don't get in trouble all right i'm

used to controversy okay and by the way i say the things that 50% of people are like yeah he's absolutely right and 50% are like no actually i bet 80% of people are like yeah logan's absolutely right and 20% are like fuck you fuck you and they're the vocal ones here's what i'm going to say calling James Charles a sexual predator Yo Ted Bundy is a sexual fucking predator Like easy with that Yeah easy with that

Like That's like saying If you brush If someone brushes up against you in public And like bumps your shoulder They physically assaulted you Which by the way that word physically Like assault is thrown around so much nowadays on Twitter

you assaulted me no yo if you get fucking jumped in an alleyway that's like physical assault yeah so i'm i'm i don't like applying these these words with such uh heavy connotations to them sexual predator to a 19 year old fucking kid who may have hit on some straight dudes it's not like you fucking god forbid rape them like the dudes he's 19 mind you he doesn't know anything about the world yet. No offense, James Charles, but you don't, bro. He knows a lot about makeup. He knows a lot about makeup.

He's a really talented makeup party. So, I mean, that's the thing. And mind you, I don't like James Charles. Yeah. I don't like James Charles, but like, I don't know what's going on. Yeah, and it's an intense place, man. Like, people jump really quickly. And it, I don't know, I don't know why it happens, but it's like people, they just

jump and they keep going and then more seats. Since other people are doing it, they're like, I'm going to jump on this too. and it just like steamrolls and this is the biggest steam roll I've ever seen in my life ever this is crazy I do not understand this I also made a point

I said if I'm going to make a video about this James Charles thing it's going to be because I want to because I don't like him and I want to like take advantage of an opportunity but then again I was like

am I am I being a total hypocrite because everyone who jumped on me when I was down I was like well what the fuck yeah like yeah dude listen mine's very small

what happened to me bunch of bullshit happened to me in the fitness industry where someone made up some lie about me and their business and then I just had to ride this like I'm some fucking snake wave and then all these people who personally were like prior like literally maybe weeks prior were like we should film a video because I was going viral I did this like hitting on girls in the gym and I was like I think I saw that yeah yeah yeah yeah was going viral then that's right after that shit hit everyone was like let me talk shit about Brad because in this other guy talked shit about Brad and we could all get views and everyone's getting views putting this guy's name in the title and I don't

think people see that like that's the other side of it like this chick literally was like you didn't promote my company you promote someone else's company and you're kind of a sexual predator like you hit on straight dudes which has been going on forever and now she looks like she's some fucking hero superhero with 4,000 more million four million more subscribers you think uh you think tati regrets making the video do you think she got the desired effect that she wanted i have no i've never met her i don't know her but i think so i'm i'm what i mean bro but i lost 70 i remember I lost 70,000 in a day. Wow, wow, really?

Yes. Wow, that's actually, no, like. It's a fuck time. Yeah, um, and then I got the old jokes where everyone's like, you know, oh, I was here when you were here and congratulations. Now you're here when you go lower. Yeah. It sucked. They're going to give James Charles his, uh, his 10 million diamond plaque again soon.

God. Yo, but I'm, I'm just wondering, like, you think Tati is happy with this? Like, is she, you got to be a special kind of evil to, evil to wish someone's. like downfall like this or is she like it and I would love to ask her or is she like no like he's getting what he deserves because like honestly I think it's past that point I think he got what he deserved but like fucking and I again I don't like James Charles but like leave the kid alone what do you think he's doing right now you think he's crying in his room putting on makeup 100% crying he's crying he's night he's that's the thing like he's also dude I'm fucking

almost 30 I'm be 30 this month you look great by the way fuck you yeah no I see it No, but he's like, he's 19, dude. Like, I can't even imagine my 19-year-old self, this happening if I had this. I don't, bro. I don't even remember who I was at 19, which is why I, like, I have, I have a lot of sympathy for James Charles here. Not because of the controversy. I'm just like, I think the crime, the punishment does not fit the crime here. Yeah, I don't, is that really it?

Do you know anything else about it? it's literally the i here's what i know bro james charles actually sucks like everyone i've never met the dude i i have i think one time and everyone like a lot of my really close friends are really tight with him yeah and they're all like yo this kid actually is like toxic and uh i'm not sure that's his fault maybe a little bit of it is innate but also bro when you make as much money as he did at this age and you're this successful like did you see what he did to uh uh he went in a mall and there was a there's i think three or four levels of just screaming girls where was this in dubai no i don't i don't think it was in dubai i think it was like in some

flyover state mall but i i could be wrong but um i had that effect when i went to dubai and i i did not i did not see any single creator even get close and i saw james i was like okay this kid's pulling some real fucking numbers like this kid moves products he makes people go from A to B Yeah, it's crazy Here's also what I'm concerned about Not like concerned about what I'm inquisitive about I wonder what his bounce back looks like

If any Because with me KSI I had the fight Right so there was a little bit of a way for me To redirect my energy Somewhere else and focus on something else And also take a break from the internet And be seen in a new light in a way

Like you're gonna box KSI James you probably lose for sure I think you for sure lose maybe not I don't know probably though that be crazy so yeah I don't know I don't know where you because the thing that he's coming back from I'm still stuck on what the crime was like the you know I it's just I don't know it's something when people get on the internet with a voice with some powers some followers and they say something and everyone's like oh yeah that is that is really bad but it's like wait wait he promoted he promoted a different company I'm like easy bro wasn't your company because like at the end of the day then ultimately what is this about is it about money because she didn't

he didn't promote her company yeah and then but now what is she getting exactly what she wanted more subscribers which is more followers which is more fucking money yeah more views so it's like was that her intention was to make money i think the beauty because he threw like like they're savage bro they're fucking ruthless like that's insane i don't know what it's still going bro i swear to god it's gonna be 10 million before before we started here i think i think in this time alone he's lost like 5 000 yeah that's crazy hey if y'all unsubscribing from james you can pop over to my channel yeah you got you got i don't like james either you how many times you do a podcast a week three bro damn you fucking you know that's by the way i think is the is like one of the dopest things

you've ever done the podcast thanks man because i was on it it was fucking fun it's fun it's fun and and you it's like uh i don't know it's like you're it's like you're it's It seems like you're growing up content. Yeah, true. Yeah. You're kind of just evolving. Yeah. Because before crazy shit, breaking plate, you still break plates?

No, I do the occasional just for like a, hey guys, remember this? Remember this? No, but like, bro, I'm still fucking crazy, bro. And that's my, I love doing crazy stuff, but also like, I don't think I can hide anymore. Like, I am growing up. You got me. I'm maturing. You're surprisingly better at talking than I thought you would be.

Everyone says that. Because I play an idiot online. Idiot online. Yeah. Taking away blogs. I've known. But I knew even before I met you, I knew you weren't an idiot. Well, I was, you could tell.

Yeah, but I was just living in this phase of like high energy chaos. So even when I came here and we were like meetings and shit, I'm sure there was like a camera somewhere. And I was like, even when the camera turned off, I was still like vlog Logan. I was like, yo, look good morning. Like every, yeah. Like, but now it's, I don't know. I try to be a little bit more strategic. We're making big moves, bro.

I saw the flat earth thing. That's not even a... But it was hilarious, though. Thanks, bro. Hey, we got another one. What is this one about? I told you, Russia. Oh, my God.

So wait a minute. So wait a minute. So wait a minute. Are you going to... It's like a... It's like a... It's like a... Who could hit hardest?

It's the Russian... It's a world championship Russian slap boxing competition. You stand mono-e-mano across a dude or chick, I would hope fucking not. Because I don't want to hit a good. Bro, Matt, Bro,

K-Oed by a chick. Yo, no, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't mind, I wouldn't mind being, it's okay. K-Oed by a chick. Like,

that'd be dope. But, man, I would mind hitting a girl, like, obviously. But imagine like a six-foot-seven brolic ass,

just fucking chick walks up and she's like, ooh! I am ogre. And she just, and bop! Knocks you out. That would go,

yeah, you wake up off that one. So, so wait a minute, how did you set this up? How'd you, like, I've seen this on the internet.

Um, The people who run it are Generation Iron. Oh, my God. And by the way, I was scrolling through Netflix yesterday. And I see Generation Iron. I'm like, oh, I'm doing the slapboxing thing. Yeah. And in the preview, you popped up.

And I was like, I'm on his fucking podcast tomorrow. Hell yeah. What did you, Vlad was at my house yesterday. Yeah. What is the relationship there? So I actually hadn't told anyone this, but I was, I was obviously on Generation Iron 3. I did a little blit a little bit.

but uh we're actually planning to do uh a documentary on me that's tight yeah that's awesome so i actually am told me on that so first time hey there you go first time you're here here that's awesome um because they're dope they're cool they're really cool what were they there for for that for this for the slap so i emailed them and then they came over to figure out logistics for um the slap i mean bro we've been you can imagine working on this for two three months now and it's finally coming to fruition end of may i'm gonna go to russia with my team of 10 11 people uh three security guards and by the way not security like you can imagine the type of security military like yeah so um we are going to go there slap some russians some russians are going to slap

me do you know who you're going to slap is there like a guy like who's the guy there's there is a guy there's there's a guy his name is dumpling his nickname is dumpling wait a minute yeah wait is that the fuck yeah wait check that real quick you know certain Did I have been dumpling? I swear I've, This is a big guy, isn't it? It's 370 pounds, bro. He knocks people out with his slaps.

He won the last one. I've heard of this guy. Are you going to get knocked out by this dude? No. No. I don't think so. You're 100% going in this. If you got knocked out, you're, you don't, it's it.

I don't give a fuck. Damn. Yeah, I've heard of this guy. Bro, do you see this guy? Siberian powder show. Constantin de Rasha Wait a second Look at this guy, bro

Dumpling The guy with the beard Not this guy Not that guy Not that guy Not the good Show us the guy with the beard bro

You guys Oh my god Wait you're gonna How much does he weigh He's 370 pounds You're gonna get slapped by 370 pounds Yeah but oh yeah

But also People are forgetting Like I slap back Do you slap him first I don't know But it just You go It's monoi mono

Whoever quits dude Wait so it's just slap for slap For slap for slap for slap. How many times do you get slapped in the face? Me? Probably like real slaps. Real slaps.

Under five. Was it like... Actually, that's not true at all. That's not... Like you let me get slapped? Yeah. Yeah. Probably under...

Probably around 20. But for content alone, I'm always getting fucking slapped. Yeah. And not once have I been like... Sorry. Never, like, phased. Never like a little white light. Nah, bro, I could take hits.

I could take hits, dude. I don't know what, I think it's because I'm just like a corn-fed Ohio boy. Ohio. But, like, I could take shots, bro. Like shot shots? Both. Both. I really do.

Like, I don't even think I get drunk anymore. Oh, my God. I take 15 shots and chilling. Are you serious? I swear to God. I can literally, everyone's going to hate to hear this. I could take like one or two shots. You're light as fuck.

No. Like, I can take one shot and be like, I'm good. You're lying? I swear to God It was like you're so big You could take all these shots Nah Why?

I don't know Maybe you got a really healthy liver And it's like now we don't Like we feel that right away Mine's like dark and black And like It's just tainted Yeah

How'd you find dumpling? I didn't find dumpling Don't find me Oh my God I just want to know how it was like Because to be the guy Who gets to slap you Here's what happened

Okay And by the way Preface It's a bracket tournament So I'm facing a dude If I beat him I go to the next dude If I beat him a dumpling championship.

There's a face-to-face in a way off in Wayne in Moscow. And the first guy I face is apparently a Russian blogger, weightlifter. Have you been practicing? No. I box every day, though. So like, bro, hey, come on now. I know, I know. Come on, bro.

I'm fucking, I don't know. I just. Oh, shit. You haven't got, like, let anyone practice slap you? Yeah, I have. At Jake's party, I let Vitale slap me. But did Vitaly hit hard? Did he slap hard?

No. Sorry, Vitalee. It's okay. No, no, but he also didn't go full space. He said, yo, I'm not going to like. Like, imagine Vitale, but he's strong. Imagine Vitale goes, he went like 50%. Imagine he goes 100% in a party.

Did he use his hips? No, no. Like, Vital, he could have fucked me out. So wait, in this competition, do you have to stand square? Yeah. You can't, like, no baseball swing. You got to stand square. Yeah.

And it's just like this, right? You just. Yeah. You can do however you want. There's no rules, bro. Vlad came over my house. I was like, is there a mouthpiece? He's like, no mouthpiece.

I was like, a certain spot you can't hit, he's like, nope. I'm like, ear, he's like, that's fine. I'm like, you're saying there's no rules. He's like, absolutely not. But as far as the hips, though, you can't turn your hips, right? Don't you have to stand square. No, bro. You can do what the fuck you want.

So you could fucking. Oh, yeah. Damn. And guess what the grand prize is? Winning? Nah. No, no, no. Is there money?

Yeah, guess, guess how much, bro? These Russians don't mess around. This is a how, I wish I knew more about this. After getting your face smacked. Who knows if your jaw is broken or you have all your brain cells left? Guess what the grand prize is? Monetary. Fuck.

I feel like with that type of intro, it's not that much, but it's a decent amount. 10? 20. 20 what? Grand. $270. Are you dead ass serious? Yes.

That's how much you win? Yes. Is this like a troll? No, bro. You swear to God? He went $270, bro. And these Russians are like, I'll go Slap for $270.70.

I'm like, I'm, ugh. Is it what's the, what's, I don't know shit about the conversion? 270. What is the Russian dollar? It's like 20,000 rubles. Oh, so I was right on the $20,000. Yeah, sort of. Okay.

So wait a minute. That's our next doc. Damn. So wait, you're going to make a documentary about this, about the slap. Uh-huh. Are you making it with Generation Iron? not with them but they're they're facilitating and sponsoring us like they put us up in the hotels and all that shit okay cool yeah this is a logan paul production yeah yeah okay uh we got we got a budget

that comes out of my pocket super sick you're super fucking dope you fuck it someone sponsor me someone sponsor for the first time in a year and a half i'm ready i'm brand safe now no i'm not not what's what's the what's the future for you bro because you're still young as fuck I'm just doing YouTube right now because it's awesome and fun and like I'm good at it but I'm a I'm a mogul bro I can do anything like I legit like I want to I want to be a professional boxer and a professional I'm a fighter and a director and then at one point I want to act in films I want to be I want to do music I want to perform at Coachella are you you're dead fucking serious I'm I will I will perform a Coachella and like I know like

it sounds it's one of those things where it's like when you hear you You're like, Logan's a fucking moron. He thinks he's going to perform a Coachella. But then when it happens, and I've seen this thousands of times in my life, it happens and you're like, oh, he was right. I'm definitely not doubting it. Do you think you have enough time to do all that, though? That's the thing.

Yeah, bro. I mean, you are very young. Life's not sure. You've just got to do more. It's true. But the thing is the thing that I get caught up in is, and I'm not trying to use any excuse, but it's just amount of time to be really great at one thing.

That's tough. that's that's you're absolutely right i want i legit like probably might end up being my downfall i want to do too many things because you're right like i want to do so many things but if i can i i have a little bit of a cheat code i've always been this way in my life i'm i'm with most things i'm usually already pretty fucking good at it and then from there i can hone hone yeah i'm i'm like i'm good at things like a natural yeah and like and i not mean not to brag but also like i'm fucking bragging there are some things i'm just like not inclined to do well at but most things i can do i'm already at a level that's probably considered an average you know what i'm saying you're basing

this off of just everything you've already done bro i have done i know no no listen bro i'm not i am not so no i'm not like i've fucking done a lot bro and i know this internet doesn't even know because I can't even post I did a show called Logan Paul versus have you ever heard about this yes okay where I did two seasons 10 episodes each and where I just went up against

the craziest challenges ever and that bro that show alone 20 different things like extreme sports like here are some things I did a demolition derby I wrestled the bear I walked across a slack line I wrestled a bear I walked across the slack line like 200 feet long over like two fucking mountain

tops. I was a teacher. I was a substitute teacher for a day. I was a mayor of a town for a day. That show, yes, no, I swear to go. The mayor of a town, rust in Louisiana. It's where I bought Kong, actually. I was dressed up as the mayor.

I saw Kong when he was a puppy. I go, I need that dog. They're like, it's not for sale. I go, I need it. How much? I'm the mayor. I need that dog. Yes, $2,500 bucks.

I said, I'll take it. That show alone, just traveling across the United States, just doing the weirdest craziest stuff. Like, um, my sense of what fear is, like kind of dissipated. My sense of confidence grew, like everything. I just learned so much. And like, I've just done so much stuff.

What do you think? This is actually, I really interested then. What do you think you learn the most from? What experience? I think it was the fear, the fear thing. It happened when I was wrestling the bear. I mean in your life. What do you mean?

Not just those experiences. Oh, okay. Meaning like, what do you think you've learned the most from in your life? What experience you think you learned the most from in your life? The Japan thing. Yeah. For sure. For sure.

Bro, that was a... I was at a fork in the road, and I went one way, and the universe was like, nah, bitch, you're going the wrong way. Go back. Go way back. Yeah. So I went back down the fork. Went back down the vertical road. Kind of looked around, assessed what was happening.

So I could choose the right decision and right path from that point on. Because prior to that, everything for you was like 100% up. Bruh. because I've seen it 150% Like to this day bro I look at the numbers I was pulling on vlogs

Retarded The top vloggers right now Aren't pulling those numbers Yeah Like bro I'd post a vlog The next day It'd be at 7 to 9 million views

Every day Every day for like 250 days in a row And like no one's doing that So yeah bro I was like the golden boy And then I did this thing And I was like

Nah I might be a bab boy what does it feel like afterwards after after after that shit uh because i've always wanted to talk to you about this i always want to figure out like how the fuck because you you just you kept going obviously yeah but like and you're you're you're you're now starting new things you're getting even further you're growing and it's um it's a good thing it felt shitty bro but also like i'm a delusional optimist like i'm always that yes but no type like like Like, yes, I can do it. The only reason I can't is because, like, I lost my eyesight or, like, some dumb shit.

Until I cannot, can no longer do something, I'm going to be doing this shit, bro. And I'm cursed. I'm cursed. It's like the Drake curse. Blessed and cursed. I don't know. What is the Drake curse? Because when he wears a jersey, do you ever do you ever?

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. The teams lose. No, not like that. I'm blessed and cursed. Uh, that the thing that I love most in life and, like, I'm always going to come back to this, no matter what happens is creating. And so, like, Doug, even if, even if after Japan, I was like, I sat back and I was like, I'm defeated, yo, I give up. I just can't.

Yeah. What am I going to, what am I going to do, be a teacher, like go be an engineer? I can't, dude. I love this shit too much. Yeah. I love it too much. But yeah, I'm also cursed in general. Like, bad things happen around me.

You think that's important. You think that's important. 100% be just not quitting you bro you can't quit that's why i'm so curious what james charles is going to do what is because because bro i'm a i'm a dog like i'm a fucking monster like i i will be fighting until the day i die and so i don't know if i see that in james i could be wrong i know he works hard but like but how do you come back from that i mean i would suggest james if you're listening, bro. This is actually exactly how you come back from me.

You're just going to tell, give him the secret. Give him the secret. Yo, do exactly what you were doing before. Just don't be a dickhead in real life. Like, he cracked the formula. And he's really talented. That's the thing, bro. Like, people have slept on me this past year and a half

because maybe my views are down or I'm not pulling as many subscribers and the waves I'm making aren't as big, but also like, bro, I look in the mirror at the end of the day and I'm sitting on, like, in my head is this, concoction of ideas and passion and drive and I just still have that and I will never lose because of that

I'm really interested because I remember when I went through the bullshit there was a moment of me being like my own personal bullshit on the internet I was like I got really fucking like man fuck these people because everything I did prior to that point was so positive and so good that I was so hurt

that like someone could make up a bullshit lie and me just have to live in that fake truth so how do you think that you like because I struggle with it, man. Yeah, that's the worst. I struggled with it. I was like, I was like, fuck this. Yep. And I then, it took me a while to get back to be able to be like, okay, like, I really want to do this again. For sure. Yeah. So, I mean, uh, here's what you got to accept, bro. No one's perfect. You can be the rock. You can be Beyonce. You can be Jay-Z. There's always going to be people who don't like you.

And that's the thing. So the people who do like you, ride or die with those motherfuckers, bro. Do it for them. The low gang skirt, I'd die for these motherfuckers. No, I wouldn't. But I would do a lot for. for them. Would you take a bullet for your mom? For my mom? You would die. You would die?

Yeah. You would? I wouldn't. I said this on Amanda Serenny's podcast and then like I've been circulating this question. We talked about it on my podcast. I've been circulating this question of people I know because like I also think my mom wouldn't want me to die for her.

Okay. That's why you got no empathy, Brad. You're not thinking about your mom. You're just thinking about what you want. No, no, no. Fucked up. No, I said I would die for my mom but I think she'd have a problem with that. Of course she would have a problem.

Yeah. Because it would not be dead. Bro. She had a fucking problem with that. would your mom think that's what i'm saying like you fucking idiot exactly so the knee jerk response is of course i died for my mom you just did it i saw you do it yeah but also like your mom be my mom would be pissed at me you should be like you're stupid you're younger than me my mom would end her life but not because she still got jake but like if if jake and i for god forbid it we're both

gone bro my mom's like she's she's done bro she like that's it her we are the loves of her life she lives for us she's here right now she just flew into town mother's day yes happy mother's day but um yeah interesting question anyways that's an interesting question it is ask ask people because because bro 90% of people are gonna go yeah of course i take a bullet for my mom but like give them a day give him a day to think about it well automatically i think about it i already know my mom would be like what the fuck do that for what the all moms probably would maybe you got a bitch-ass mom who's like yeah you fucking fucking die head son fucking bitch yeah so okay yeah how do you come back from it man i want to know i really want the answer for this

yeah okay so yeah is that where we're at yeah step one yeah step one you got to accept just make a video and be like nothing happened you got to accept you're never going to be loved by everyone yeah like i actually have regrets um about about most of my controversies about the way i handled them japan oh man me too japan no about your about yours Japan not so much because I think I mean that was like I said

I needed to but like remember when I said remember the gay controversy when I said I was going gay bro for a month right

yeah it was it bro that that whole thing was blown so far out of proportion and here I am

I'm like I'm like yo to the LGBTQ community you guys are barking up the wrong tree I am on your side I've been on your side I'm very vocal

about my support for your movement and you are attacking the wrong fucking person guys like go go expose more James Charles before you come to me because of a verbiage thing because I use the word going gay instead of like bro I easily could have said this uh it's male only March we're hooking up with dudes for a month

no one would have said a thing because of a verbiage thing because of it because I was ignorant in the way I chose my words like easy tiger easy 150, 200,000 tweets about that shit About what she said Yeah, oh yeah And then we had a rep From the LGBTQ community

Josh Seafreed on our podcast To talk about it Episode got half a million views Don't give us a fuck No, they don't, bro, they don't want to see you apologize They don't care what your repercussions look like after They just want to see you fail, jump on board How many people can we get to unsubscribe to James Charles

Shut the fuck up guys The kids going through it Let him be for a second he's 19 years old he still has not found himself just take it easy yo he's learned his lesson and and by the way he will continue unfortunately to learn his lesson because people are ruthless yeah yeah man i i remember i remember me being like just fucking i couldn't believe it dude because i did i i feel like i did everything quote unquote right right yeah it's the worst feeling right and you're you're just like oh fuck so all you want to do is be loved in the way i responded i tried to

like, I tried to kind of dance around the situation and avoid it at first. And then, like, I tried to amend it with the person, like, on the back. But it just, it was, it was, I don't know, man. It just seemed like the person was more interested in like, oh, I can do this. Yeah. Yeah. Bro, you can't, you can't dance around it? Like, the next controversy I have, which, by the way, there'll be one.

I'm going to just like. Oh, bro, hold on. Before you say it, can I say what I would do? Yeah, yeah. I'm going to fucking destroy that motherfucker. I am going to fucking go hard. I'm not going to keep my mouth shut. I'm going to show all the fucking receipts.

I'm going to show everything. Because this motherfucker, oh, my God, man, when I think about it, I, it makes me mad just thinking about it. I let it go and I was like, oh, let me play this, like, let me not talk about it. Bro, I'm going to, I'm going to pull all receipts. Yep. I'm going to pull all receipts. I'm going to say, fuck this shit. Do not back down.

Do not back down. Like, that's, because when you back down, you show signs of vulnerability and then people just step on you. Attack. They attack. It's like predators, bro. So shit. Like, if I, the internet is being a fucking internet predator of James Charles right now. Exactly, bro.

like that's what I'm saying the kid is on the ground he is bleeding out and y'all are just continuing to stab him with a dagger like it sort of hurts to see yeah so what would you do next time?

I don't like James Charles I'll say it again make a compilation clip me saying it four times in a row this is just me being a human trying to be like unbiased like because I want to preface it like I'm not on his side but also like

the opposite of love is not hate you know what it is indifference i'm so removed from this i don't care life and the universe will unfold the way it needs to for james but like i don't love james i don't hate james i'm just kind of indifferent like i don't like him but like guys that ain't my business bro so if something happened to you again how would you respond depends what i did depends what Britt, I, I, I, I truly believe, because, like, everyone's like, yo, be unapologetic. Never say sorry. And I'm like, yo, I not, and my question is like, yo, what if you're sorry?

Like with Japan? Yeah, I was sorry. Yeah. With the going gay thing, I, I said, I, I, I, I apologized for being ignorant and my poor choice of words. Yeah. But also, that isn't like a, like, a, like, I'm not a bad. person for that japan i was a bad person for that but uh how did i get to this tangent uh which how you how you would respond to it oh how i would respond depending on the situation

it depends on the situation but like i'm pretty got a good head on my shoulders right now healthy mentally stable like if i had 15 million subscribers and i was like fuck logan paul for some bullshit yeah what would you do this is theoretical obviously but say how more subscribers have more clout you know i mean it depends bro i try to i try to be unbiased like bro i'm i'm so unaffected by thing i'm literally numb to everything so

like 50 million subscribers fuck logan paul like hey go stand over there with the rest of them bro good for you you're now you're now on a bandwagon in a group like you're super dope uh like that's awesome bro but it if it's if it's not necessarily the big people coming after me that I get

like I tweak over in fact like because anyone can say anything it's like when I do something wrong or perceived the wrong and there's a widespread backlash from a community from a group of people whoever it is that's what when the people are speaking the audience that's when I listen

and I'm like okay there's something I did do something wrong perceived to do something wrong so it just depends bro but but my first instinct my gut response is to stick my chest out lift my chin up and be like

yo like fucking deal with it that's you you've you've all extremely misread this because yo the people who love me at this point they're gonna they got my back they're gonna love you regardless yeah they're gonna be with me forever but like

I'm gonna be in this game for a minute for a while yeah and I'm going to bring the people who love me with me and that's all there is to do it. And I think the thing people fail to realize is that like, number one, we said this earlier,

you can only, people are going to love, people are going to hate you. It was like, or be the indifferent, right? But I think truly the people who like, and you know this too, the people who really support you and the people who don't support you, a lot of times the people who don't support you were kind of waiting to not support you. Like they never really did support you.

They were kind of sitting like, oh, that guy, he's got too many good things going for him. Oh, yeah. Fuck yeah Fuck you I knew you Fuck you Yeah

Yeah Bro sort of ashamed But not really to say Like that's how I felt About James Charles Like I was waiting For this to happen Oh my God

Bro he's Oh my God He's like 8000 Since the last time We checked this shit Yeah Oh my God I honestly think he's gonna hit

Like under 10 Bro I so But yeah I was waiting for I was waiting for this to happen And it did And now I'm like

All you took it too far Like You wish You wish you wish bad upon your enemy and then it's like oh no because mentally man that's why i'm wondering if tati's like this has gone too far mentally it's a little like because you think about someone else's well-being like especially over something like this bro like bro can you imagine i don't know how healthy james charles is mentally but can you imagine he ends his life and like are the people

who unsubscribe to him are they like yeah we did it like what's the goal here do you all want to really hurt james charles what's the fucking goal here. Yeah, and does Tati feel good about this? She's like, that's why I made that video. So he would kill himself if he did that.

Bro, like I just, no, I don't think so. You all are taking it too far. Obviously, obviously not. Obviously not. Right.

But I'm saying, like this happened with, um, do you know that porn star August Ames? No. This happened a while ago. She, she said something on Twitter.

Community backlash. Uh, I think people were, she said she was like gay bashing or something and she hung herself she ended her life so the people who were how many years ago was this a year oh shit so the people who were tweeting

at her um I'm always I'm like yo are y'all satisfied what was the goal here if you walk again the opposite of love is not hate it's indifference so like bro if you walk into a room and someone's like or say

you're overhearing a conversation and someone says the following Oh, you know that Bradley Martin guy? It's three responses. Yeah, for sure. I love that dude. Yeah.

Now, fuck that Bradley Martin guy. Yeah. Or like, yes, like so. Yeah, the guy who did the thing. Yeah. That response to me is the worst. Because, like, they don't care. They don't care what you do.

They're never going to love you. They're never going to hate you. They're just going to go about their day. Nothing about you at all. So if you love or hate someone, there's a feeling, there's a strong feeling. At least they're talking about you. Yeah. Anyways, that's a tangent.

I think they're both different forms of love. exactly they are bro like even the haters like hey haters y'all pay my bills go for it they're still there go for it's still there they're trying to see they want to see you like y'all hey y'all are dope bro you all keep me relevant please but um yeah like i'm always just so curious like this shit is dangerous bro like like i i can't even like the king of controversy i can't even relate to this because i did not lose two million plus subscribers but i gained the mill so i didn't even feel like the everything he's worked and built for it just is mind blowing yeah it's uh it's a fuck ton man i uh i uh i loki i mean i loki i don't feel bad because i don't know anything about the

situation like well enough but i do i do like mentally man like this guy's got to be going through it he's got to be going through something yeah and that's the that's the shittiest thing to see i think because i know i know when i was going through it i was like i was torn man i was like fuck i i did this shit right and i was doing good and it was just like well someone can just boom in a heartbeat and because someone else had some form of clout and people wanted to get in see any fall before they want to see the fall and it's like I think people like that shit bro when when the king is sitting atop his throne and the peasants are shaking the throne all the other peasants join in take him down we want we don't want it

you want that king to fall bro and James Charles yeah James he's going to do that shit if you're if you're listening you're probably not but I hope you're okay he'll see the clips bro there's a lot of you got a lot of good clips in this episode lots of clips okay besides all this shit the slap thing i want to talk more about this a little bit uh what made you want to do that i saw you probably saw too it went kind of viral about there's this thing in russia every year the annual russian slap contest i've seen i've seen it so i saw that it went viral and i was like this is fucking hilarious uh i need to join no that simple it was that like like same with the flat earth dude i was like people think what yeah i need to be one of them

for a second and then show them how fucking dumb they are bro the flatter thing actually like actually upsets me now i watch the documentary it's over dude after yours i watched a documentary was like holy shit this is crazy oh the beyond the curve the netflix one yes yes do you see how moronic these people are yeah it's the thing that's interesting i think there's one thing where he goes see you could see and you just look look over there I was like wait a minute what I'm like what are you saying bro here's the thing I've said this before dude the flat earthers if one day they're like yo like

I'm bored this shit stupid like the gig is up like what are you gonna do what are you gonna you can't just go back into society be like oh yeah it's like I'm like I'm sorry I was in a psychosis like pulling Alex Jones and be like I was in a mental psychosis like no you can't you interviewed that guy Alex Jones dude is fucking wild bro he's he's holy shit he's nuts dude um but it's like i asked him if it was an act he said no and it's not off camera he's nuts he's fucking nuts it's not an act no damn that is actually shocking that's why it works

he's he's authentic to himself like genuinely believes it like authenticity is uh comes in many shapes and sizes can be good or bad and he he he's fucking authentic to alex jones you know number one thing that made you successful because you talk about the genuine work ethic yeah yeah bro I cannot be outworked like I just cannot be I want this shit too bad and because you know why I don't feel like I'm working I'm so present it's good that just like it's on to the next thing live in the moment do this shit yeah that's how you pulled up you literally pulled up I was like shit and there's no one with him you just pulled up and we just started talking yeah exactly and you're like we're going to talk about this today yeah before that before that I was

on the phone getting props for the the Russian documentary and before that I woke up I was stretching and I was doing my shit feeding my dogs like in a moment bam bam yep it's impressive man yeah if you be present I think it you can you can relieve a lot of stress not thinking about like what's next or what you just did in the past the past is gone there's nothing you could do about it might as well not even exist how'd you learn how to be present because I think people much older than you have a hard time with it I think I've always sort of been this way that's the easy cop-out is like I've always just like been this way but also through my mistakes

truly, truly made me realize, like, take this with a grain of salt. Like, none of this shit fucking matters, bro. Damn. None of this shit matters. You just went so deep on me, bro. Like, well, it doesn't. It doesn't, dude.

Like, I'll walk down the street. This is hypothetical. If I walk outside of zoo culture right now. Yeah. And some dude is like, fuck you, Logan Paul, you piece of shit. Like, zero.

effect on my life zero i think like as long as i'm here bro both positive and negative feedback what happens in my life like none of it matter but how did you learn this shit dude because that that is so real because i i i know this for a fact like it really doesn't matter not like not like everything in life doesn't matter fuck your life and but you have like someone else being like fuck logan paul or fuck bradley martin or fuck james charr or fuck tati whoever right that like hate that negativity it lives in that person yeah you have to allow it to be like oh it's in here now i'm letting it affect me oh yeah because you can't control some like why they want to be mad at you for their own reasons in their own whole life like well that's on them for them for what yo that's on

them yeah yo like i don't want to say it again bro what i'll say it again if i have to i don't like james charles six times someone's going to no but i'm just saying but also I ain't sitting here saying Fuck you, Ging, I hate you, blah, blah, blah. Like, I just, that's how I feel. Yeah.

And I don't know. I'm just nothing to do with him. Shouldn't affect him at all. Just how I feel, bro. He's lost 5,000 subscribers since the last time we pointed out that board. Yeah. Wow.

But how do you learn this, bro? How do you learn that? Was it through your experience, the negative shit? Or did you learn it sooner than that shit? I gave up, I gave up trying to impress MN.

To everyone. I realize it's not possible It's not a single person has done it When did you realize it? I was at Coachella last year This is when you realized at Coachella last year You're just telling me a story Nope

Coachella last year This is when I this is Maybe this was the No yeah This is when I realized it Because this was after Japan This was three Two

Four months after Japan Four months And I was like It was the first time I was like okay So like some people don't like me And by the way I'm in public now

At Coachella Yeah at Coachella And so Beyonce was performing and I was like super unsure about my life what I was doing next if I was going to be hated forever yeah and so

Beyonce was performing and my friends one of them was like yo I don't like Beyonce like do we don't have to watch this and I was like what do you mean you don't like Beyonce I don't understand she's the fucking queen yeah he's like nah dog it's just like she's not that great like I don't like her music and like who cares

and I was like what do you mean who cares it's fucking Beyonce you dumbass let's go watch her concert he's like I'll be honest dude I don't think that many people like Beyonce I was like what are you saying

bro I go what are you saying Doug so as we're walking away from the concert not going to see Beyonce because he won the argument and by the way

most of my friends like we're also like I don't really care I asked 20 people if they liked Beyonce and liked her music and guess how many of them said they did

two two on the way out okay Were you talking to people who are also on the way out? No, walking in, bro. Oh, okay. Stop them.

I go, you want a Beyonce? They're like, nah, I don't relate to her or her music. I couldn't wrap my head. I was like, it's Beyonce. Are you people, idiots? She's the best. But also, they don't think that. So, like, bro, you can, you can, even if you're the greatest, like, factually the greatest,

and you're a Beyonce, there are going to be people who just don't like you, no matter. So I was like, dude, there's no hope. I'm going to do my shit. I'm going to be as authentic as I can, as genuine I can, as I can, and as real as I can. Be me, if you like me, hop on board this rocket ship. And if you don't, please, get the fuck out of my way. Yeah.

Or talk shit as I pass you. Like that either works. But, nah, you know what I'm saying? That's when you realize it, Coachella. Yeah, bro. Were you on some drugs? No, no, that one I wasn't. That one I wasn't.

That one I wasn't. I was sober as a bone. Man. Have you ever taken any, have you ever taken mushrooms? I have. Yeah. Yeah.

Which is pretty amazing. I'm not, I'm not telling people. They just got decriminalized in Denver. I saw it, yeah. We talked about this on our podcast. I can't be good,

I feel like. Why? Why? Well, look, oh, here's the deal. Here's a deal. My question is how much? Because you could take a smart.

And I, now everyone, listen, I'm not encouraging you go and do this, like just under any, circumstances like maybe at some point in your life in the right circumstances yeah try it but also like understand that like i'm definitely not saying go do it yeah but i think if they're decriminalized that's that's a huge step but how much because if you take too much you get a little funky but i know

i know i know it once took a little too much got a little funky i know dudes you took a little too much got a little funky liked it took a little too much the next day took a little too much the next day after that's a lot of yeah that's too much you know the that's way in a week they're not the same person even even micro dosing bro i'm just i know people who microdose three times a week and guess what they're not the same person they were two months ago it's i i i don't believe that can be good for you too much like i i don't believe i would have voted yes on that on that bill yeah because i've i remember uh i did it i think i did five times in my life who is who is clean and pressing a semi truck out there dude it looks like this is uh his dick must be huge bro

He's dropping that hard. For sure, just by the sound. Damn. Huge. No, so here's the deal. I've done it five times in my life over the course of like eight years. Five. Eight years.

Okay, okay. So it's not like, you know, I know people who do it, yeah, like on the regular, like every other month. I definitely, from my experience, I learn a fuck ton, but I would for sure not do it often. Yeah, you can't. Do you take notes? When I did it, absolutely. I wrote like a fucking story.

Oh, everything. And I went back and read that shit and it was weird as fuck. Some of it's weird as fuck. Some of it actually makes sense. We came out with a big one the last time we did it. Like a bunch of notes? A bunch of notes. And some of them are really good.

The biggest one is honestly the most simple. And I've been trying to do it more is listen. Listen. I would go like this. I go, listen. And we were in nature and shit. And so we would just stop and hear everything. Here all the animals, hear the wind blowing everything.

And it applies to real life, bro. I think if people just sit back and listen more, I feel like a lot of problems would be solved. The number one thing I learned, I want to share this actually when I was on mushrooms once, was the words that I used, and it effectively affecting me. I remember there was at one point where I was feeling really bad. I have bad anxiety just normally in my life, and I have it every once in a while. like and it depends normally i get it at night um anxiety over like a bunch of different things but this was uh this was probably like s dude i damn i'm getting old seven years ago one of the

one of the times fall bro uh oh shit wait how old are you 24 that's actually when i did yeah so four so not seven years ago is it something sort of five five five years ago yeah i was your age and uh i remember i was feeling really like just everything felt like it was closing in on me i was like oh shit this feels really bad and I noticed the moment that I I said that word and I just I just felt bad like the it just felt worse everything felt worse everything felt worse and then the moment like I was with a buddy of mine and I would never recommend doing this this stuff alone I always did it in a always did it with like in a controlled setting I was with my buddy and he gave me a tea it was a Arizona iced tea and he's like oh man it's all good

and I heard him say good and I was like yeah it's all good and I drank this tea and like the minute that I finished the word good, I felt good. And I noticed so clearly. Wow. So then I tried it. I was still in this like trip and I was like bad. And it, and then it instantly, whoa, it felt like the world was closing it on me. And I felt bad. I swear to God, I'm not exactly. I swear to God. Oh, yeah. And the minute I say good, it felt like almost like the world opened up again. Wow. So I think the thing that I really realized from doing it was like the words that I use and the things that I continue to tell myself throughout my life are affecting me whether I'm super aware of it or not because they're charged like bad is negatively charged i don't know i don't like that's most of

the time bad means bad and most of the time good means good if you they did this an experiment one not the tangent but i'm gonna no yeah fuck all right so they planted two plants two little plants and for 30 days one plant they yelled at it and cussed at it and told this plant it was a piece of shit plant and that it sucks and this one they said nice things about it for like 10 minutes a day They'd just be like, yo, you know, you're an adult plant. They probably didn't say that. They're probably like, such a pretty plan. You're very pretty.

Yeah. You will grow into be a nice little plant. This one grew like three times as much as the one they screamed at. Bro, the words you use not only affect you, but affect everyone around you is vibrations, bro. And if you're spreading good vibes and positive energy, it's manifestation shit. This is the deep shit. But it's funny. It sounds like some hokey pokey shit.

But I swear to God, it is real, bro. Where did you grow up? San Francisco. That's the first time I ever took mushrooms at Golden Gate Park, actually. See, bro, like, if I had this conversation with my boys from Ohio, they'd be like, yo, what the fuck are you saying? What are you talking about? Go back to La La Land.

And then I'm here, like, kind of looking around and living my life and, like, being a little loopy with, like, energy and magic and manifestation. But I'm also like, you know, I think this shit works, bro. Like, I'm doing pretty good. I think that's how you got all this shit. You believed in you. yeah yeah that i'm gonna fucking do that that was me but that but that was like i almost i often wonder if that goes beyond manifestation bro like i was doing that shit at 13 years old like was it

was it was it you mean like was it given to you somehow um some sort of like it was meant to be yeah yeah yeah like a lot of people just don't they simply just don't have that like drive or wherewithal to at 13 years old to be like i'm gonna be fucking great yeah a lot of people don't have that They're like, I'm just going to be. My sentence didn't end there. I'm going to be. Fucking great. You remember that at 13?

Yeah, bro. I said, I looked around me. I was like, yo, these people are dope and, like, I have a lot of friends here. But, like, I would see, like, the walls that I was confined by in my school. And I was like, I don't think I belong here. But you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to do the best I possibly can while I am here. And I did.

And I graduated high school with a 4-7 GPA. I was like a scholar athlete, all-American. you wrestled and played football so but yeah it was just i felt that thing that was like i can relate i can relate you got to get out i can relate to the the feeling of like something else feeling i didn't know exactly what it was but i remember being like and i had no direction but i remember being like there's more for me i always had this feeling like there's more yeah and by the way look around you were right it's fucking crazy surprise you were right so do you think do you think that someone could could teach themselves that could adopt that i don't think so i think i think

I think people think they can, and that's why Tony Robbins is so successful. And I think that's why a lot of people follow Gary Vee. Gary Vee speaks words of wisdom, but unfortunately I, and he even says this, he goes, you know, like 90% of this shit, like a lot of people think they could do it. Like it's not for them. You think you want it, but you don't. Like, bro, the amount of people that are like, I want this so bad, no, you don't understand. I'm like, no, I really do understand.

I can't iterate how much I do understand. Like, I did not come from a rich family. I bought my own car, my own laptop, my own camera. When I was young, I'd snowballed driveways for entire winters just to afford gas money. Whatever it is. Like, I do understand. And if it's, I don't think that can be taught. I could be wrong.

Oh, I don't know. I honestly don't know. I don't know. But you, I mean, it's funny. I had this same conversation with a really good friend of mine who does YouTube videos. He's Brozs Science. Domazetti's his character. I don't if you ever seen him.

We film like Bro. Oh, he's hilarious. Yeah. Oh, he's funny as fuck. Yeah. That dude is a genius. And I had a conversation with him, very fucking smart. Whoa, okay.

Genius, like incredible writer. And I had the same conversation. The idea was like, can everybody be great? And straight up, he's no. He believes no. Not in a negative way, but just like he's a very analytical and like realistic. Same. I don't think that at all.

I'm on the same page as him. It just is not the case. I think, okay, you know what? Let me take that back. I think we need to define what. great is right like like like i believe i here's what i do believe i believe everyone has a thing and if you can find that fucking thing then they can be great and and and go for it then you can be great at that but like when my my initial thought when you say great is like taking over

the world because that's you that's your perspective of great right exactly yeah but there could be some bro there could be someone who's like my version of great is being the best possible teacher i can be to educate the future of America and like be fucking great at that because that's some shit we probably need. And he said the same thing

just so I started a little bit like open ended like that but it's the same thing it was like I think someone could be great at what oh shit what the fuck I'm good I don't know what happened there

I just I started to take those off my head someone could be great at something like yeah I guess it just depends in your perspective of your opinion of great can be great at something they want to be great at No, because too many people are trying to do what I do and what you do.

And like, bro, that might not be your thing. And then I think his reference was, and I agree with this, if it was like basketball, you know, let's just say, for example, I mean, there are very, there's a very small percent of basketball players that are not, like, super fucking tall and they're still killing it. Like Steph Curry. Yeah. But he's like, isn't he like 6'3?

Six foot. Oh. Yeah, Alan Iverson, obviously another one. O.G. Steph Curry height. Steph Curry height. Six foot three inches. Oh, shit.

But some things can't... I told you he was taught. I don't fucking fuck. Got a lot of text. Some people can't be fucking... You can't be taught that kind of shit. You can't be taught height. Like, God given just ability.

Bro, like, exactly. You just can't. Like, okay. I'm fast running. You think he could beat me in a foot race? Yeah, bro. I can be everyone in a foot race. I'm the fastest YouTuber.

I would fucking destroy you in a foot race. I bet bad dog you see you dog these legs down here bro look here's so you hear so

you know the pause you know the pause is so real I've never seen a pause more real than that I love the competitiveness my favorite thing about you saying bro my favorite thing about you that's my favorite thing bro

what are you saying I would beat you in a fucking foot race The fuck out of here Oh my You believe yourself I'm 100% believe myself Just like you believe Just like you believe

I'll run to these fucking wheels Fall off Yo you are Alright we're gonna settle this shit bro No we're gonna settle this shit I have a plan Okay Did I tell you?

No, you just fucking What's the plan? So I think a lot of YouTubers We're gonna have the same exact reaction You just did When I say I'm the fastest I think it would be like this Oh I know what you're doing

No I'm the fastest I know what you're going to do. What, why don't you say, bro? Why don't you say? You're going to do something on YouTube. Yeah. About this. I'm going to track me.

I'm going to track me. I'm fucking there. Yeah? I'm going to beat you, dude. I put you in shot put putt, too, if you want. By the way, we graph this all out. You're on the list. I'm going to put me on shot put?

Yeah. I'm going to beat. But I didn't know you want to do foot race too. You want to do 100 meter sprint? If it means beating you, yes. I'm in it. I'm in it. I'm in it.

I am the fastest YouTuber on the planet. Is this, is this brand new news? You're going to make a YouTube. I've never said this before. This is fucking, I didn't even hear about this. It's a YouTube track meet. No, not telling anyone. This is the first time I've said it.

It's in the works. We hired a guy. It's probably going to be end of, end of June is what we're going for. It's going to be live stream, charity event. It's going to be big. On God, I'm going to the track after this podcast.

For real? You're going to train for it? I'm going to start today. I'm going to go get fucking cleat. Is it on a track? Yeah. I'm getting cleats. You need spikes?

Oh, I'm going. Bro, this is no fucking joke. Because, by the way, if you win, bro, I think we're going to do, like, the winner gets $10,000 to donate to a charity of their choice. I'm, I don't go, fuck. I'm, I am, I'm ready to go now. I'm going to, fuck.

I'm going to, you're, you got masks, bro. What are you talking about? Look at these fucking legs, bro. You know how high I can jump? Mass don't mean shit. You want to do high jump too? Oh, I would fucking God. Who's going to beat me in high job?

Batch did it in college. Bro, I will, oh, okay. That's it in college, bro. Oh, you know who's really fast? Who? Daystorm. Nah. He's really fast.

I ain't that fast. I raced him. Yo, have you ever done 100 meter timed? No. Okay. If anyone was listening to this, I did. Okay. In eighth grade.

Okay. In eighth grade. I was 13. Okay. And I got an 118. 118. Do you think you're fast because of that, bro? Or something?

I'm the fast. fastest you're not the flash dude i've never lost a race in my life you never race the right person bro you were racing a bunch of scrubs the swc i am legit southwest conference bro ohio eight schools brexville avon lake barria mid park you race them all north omstead you sound like the race god right now west lake west lake west like they all bat demons baby go demon Shout out to all my fucking demons. You're really doing this, though? Because this is a genius fucking idea.

Yeah, of course, bro. It's a fucking great idea. Thanks, yeah, because I feel like, bro, YouTubers are competitive. Yeah. So everyone wants to be the fastest. And by the way, it's going down, and me and Jake are hosting.

And by the way, Jake thinks he can beat me too, you little chub bunny. No, you fucking can't. Why don't you focus on dating Tanna and having fake kids? You cheese dick? Yo, I'm excited.

I'm really excited about this shit It's gonna be fun Damn, this is lit Shotput I'm 100% down Yeah I think I didn't expect you to try to hit the speed The speed portion of it Definitely shot put

You're gonna clean up I bet Who else is gonna be there? Everyone I'm gonna but bro Who's gonna beat me at something involving This would be the biggest Besides the boxing fight This will be the biggest event of the year

It's gonna be fucking huge bro And all the money's gonna host Where are you gonna host it at? We are finding locations right now we think we know but i'm not gonna say just yeah also like i don't know if this is too premature anyways like i don't fucking know ucla maybe yeah maybe that'd be fucking hey yo i got a dip okay is that cool yeah all good you fucking i gotta go get a dog maybe another fucking dog i want a Tibetan mastiff bro burly's lonely i know he's lonely you got enough space bro that's for sure yeah you

got a you got the resource i got materials bro you got it you build that motherfucker a dog house with your own hands Ohio shit, bro. Hey, thank you for coming, man. Of course, of course. Yeah, thank you, bro. This was awesome. You are a fucking man of your word.

I want the world to know that. If they don't already know that, you fucking stand by it. And I appreciate you. Thank you so much, man. Yeah, for sure, bro. For sure. Thanks for having me on, G.

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