RAWTALK - Maxx Crosby on Fighting Sean Strickland, Taylor Swift (banned?), Super Bowl Rigged?

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

0:00 Intro 0:17 first time brad and maxx met 1:00 maxx more in the mix of NFL players 2:12 maxx is always locked in 3:27 4th round draft pick 4:42 best defensive player of the year? 6:48 maxx being on the raiders 9:15 maxx’s knee injury… 11:01 childhood and come up 13:47 when maxx realized he could make it in football 16:26 what separates good and great football players 17:57 overcoming alcohol addiction 23:03 how to not fall back in bad habits 24:56 maxx sparing Sean Strickland 25:48 improving yourself 28:38 who wins in a street fight, maxx or strickland? 30:02 calling people little boy on the field 31:11 mahomes and kelcee mess with ravens kicker 32:10 announcer who got kicked off because of taylor swift 33:51 the ai Taylor swift images 34:34 does maxx have the pass… 36:25 the most fun doing besides football 40:42 maxx creating a podcast 42:36 the liver king lying 43:52 the softest and best o line players 46:46 social media changing it all 48:08 being in the locker room 48:57 maxx being a leader 49:34 people constantly dealing with injuries 51:14 maxx planning on staying with the raiders 52:07 Oakland is rough 53:21 being in Vegas 58:43 what maxx wants his legacy to be 1:01:08 being remembered as a person 1:04:30 did maxx always have this mentality? 1:10:22 people who succeed at the highest level 1:11:11 communication is key 1:12:04 maxx being more of a traditional guy 1:14:13 maxx or brad in a street fight?

I was just talking about this, my agent. The first time we met was Jacksonville, right? Yeah, at a UFC. UFC card, yeah. Jacksonville. I was like, damn, this mother's huge. No, I remember seeing y'all. You were with Steve mainly, I think, at that time.

Yeah. And, yeah, we must have traveled the whole world making content doing crazy shit. It's crazy, bro. Yeah. Wish you can get back on YouTube, but. Bro, it's a blessing I have you, man. No, I appreciate it. I'm a fan, and, dude, you've.

you've been crushing it and and you know i noticed like i feel like well i won't we'll get into this topic of like social media and like the NFL and all this obviously a ton of stuff to cover um but you you're like are you more in the mix than other NFL players like when i say in the mix like showing up to events and kind of like yes and no kind of right yeah i would say like because i don't like i don't go out you know what i mean i'm not in the clubs or anything that's not what i mean when i say the mix yeah no for sure for sure but you know leading to my point it's like if i'm going to do it's going to be for a purpose you know what i mean and stay involved and like things that i actually enjoy doing so like back in the day when i was partying to doing my

i was out on the scene and trying to get into you know as much fun as i possibly can but now it's just like you know UFC events i'm always at the UFC events Dana's a good friend of mine amazing that whole crew um and then just doing business you know there's a lot there's so much in Vegas that you know what I mean it's just it's unlimited opportunity so for me it's like I got a lot of you know a lot of great people around me I'm you know Rubin's one of my good friends he's with fanatics and I'm with fanatics now so I'm just like I'll step out and you'll see me boom I'm out for like an hour and a half two hours and then I'm back at the house like I'm a home body bro you're like I'm in and out I'm doing my thing and then I go straight back to the crib so yeah and you're

you're that kind of way with with football even I feel like because I saw interview you talking I think you were Strickland talking about this but yeah you're you're like a 24-7 guy you're not like an off-season on-season kind of guy you're like always kind of locked in right yeah for sure for sure I mean I got that you know I started after my second year I actually ironically I love coming to L.A. I got a different type of love because I got sober out here so that was about almost four years ago it's coming up but yeah you know I got cleaned up out here so I'm 24-7 like literally I come out to L.A. in my room you know I have have my nutrition is called the hotel boom i need i need extra extra fridge so i get all my meal

prep and i got a company out here and no matter where i'm at i'm always locked in um 100 so right now it's different i got this knee and then i got i got to get my thumb tomorrow i appreciate you come in like this because obviously you're the dedication is different no yeah i just i try to stay let's not try i just stay dialed in 100% of the time because i know what it takes to get to that level but to stay there and to keep improving and find a ways to improve bro it literally requires 100% of your attention and if you don't have people around you that understand it like yeah you know they won't they won't understand so that's why my wife and my close-knit friends like they know what i want and know what i'm chasing so no matter what i'm doing bro i'm gonna be

100% on on that no you got what you're fourth round drafted yeah fourth round draft pick um is that like is that obviously that's that's not like first round all this like oh this guy's the guy you like you're building yourself into something though that do you think you probably knew you were going to do this but do you think people thought you were going to be able to do this um no you know i don't i don't think so i think you know i've always had a crazy belief for myself you know at the end of the day i do like i've been obsessed with football and sports since literally the day i was born so um yeah i didn't know it would get to this level but the thing is it's like i know i could be even better and i know i could you know only keep growing if i keep doing the right so yeah for me

bro it's like it worked out the way it's supposed to like i wasn't supposed to be a first round pick i wasn't supposed to get that much money out the gate because when i came to the league bro i was wild this i wasn't ready for all that you know what i mean i had to really earn it so now like i'm going into my six year which is crazy um how time flies but you know i know i know i'm grateful for it now so like i understand what it took to get here and i worked my ass off every single day you know to get to this point so if i would have got it right out the gate you know what i mean i don't know how i would have reacted to it so um it makes me appreciate a lot more so yeah man it's it's it's it's It's special for sure.

Arguably one of the best defensive players in the league. No doubt. I guess Bosa got it over you in the rookie. Yeah, yeah. It was me. It was him and then I was second. Do you think, damn. Yeah.

Do you, like, I mean, he's going into the, he's going into the bowl, so obviously it's going to be a little different. But do you think you'd get defensive player of the year? Yeah, well, I'm up for it. I mean, it's five of us this year. You know, in my personal opinion, like, every single year, I get better. and it's not just stats, you know, that's one thing, but this is a player and overall impact. So I'm willing to run that race, you know what I mean?

At the end of the day, I know my time is coming. I know I'm going to get that recognition, and I'm starting to get that recognition. So for me, it's just trusting the process and continuing to find that little 1% I get better at. And that's the beauty in it. Like, guys, like, you know, for me, I talk to my brother about this all the time because he's like, you know, he's my biggest, you know, he goes on Twitter, he's pissed off. He's like, no, I'm telling you, Max, he's better than, he's been saying this. Well, stats, I mean.

I mean, yeah, but then Rachel's the same way, my wife. Like, she will go to war, you know what I mean? And all my friends, they know what I do and know what I put in. And, like, I've been on teams, you know, I've been in the league five years. I made the playoffs one time. And the fact that, you know, I've been, you know, three times in a row pro bowl. I've been multiple all pros. Like, I'm getting recognition.

I'm not in the playoffs every year. So I know once I'm starting to consistently be in the playoffs, you know, it's just going to keep going and going. It just starts with the work. So for me, it's like, I, I, told my brother this. I'm like, Yokic, it took Yokic like eight years, so I wanted to fully recognize it like, no, he's the best player in the league. And for me, that's, you know, that's what I look. I could see it, like maybe two, two, three years from now when they look back to be like,

okay, he's got every stat. He's got all that. I think people are starting to see it, though, for real. No, for sure. And I know that it's just, that's what pushes me more because I know there's another level I can go to. So if it takes eight, 10 years, I'm willing to run that race. It's got to be tough, though, because like, because football is such a massive, massive team sport. Like yeah because for you to get the kind of looks like to that point where like you do kind of like you said have to be going to the playoffs have to be going to the Super Bowl yeah um do you think the Raiders are are like ready or do they need a quarterback strong quarterback um you know obviously you know we're not there yet we're eight nine this year we had a coaching change halfway through the year yeah we still you know we turned it around like once once we had a coaching change and had AP come in like the whole thing changed so um you just seen like we went to arrowhead and beat you know beat the team just about to be in the super bowl yeah um with the rookie quarterback like that doesn't happen um our defense went from bottom of the league second half of the year we end up being the number one defense in the league

and overall we ended being a top 10 defense so um yeah you know we need pieces we know we need pieces a few pieces to add um you know the quarterback deal like aiden came in did a great job yeah i know they're going to draft someone probably um and have them compete but yeah i feel like we're now you know Now that we brought AP back, we have a chance to keep building on what we already started. So we got a lot of great pieces. It's just about adding a few more and then having a full season, you know, with everyone on the same page. Were you serious about if Pearson didn't come back, you'd leave the Raiders? I mean, you know, that whole deal, there's a lot of things behind the scenes that went into it.

But, you know, at the end of the day, like, I stand on what I said. You know, there's obviously emotion that go into it. You know, this could have been a different way I went about it. But at the end of the day, I stand on what I said. I'm about elevating and winning and getting better every single year. And I've shown the team. I've shown everybody, my teammates, that I'm doing that every single day. And every single year, I go out there, I get better.

And I want the organization to feel the same way. And that's basically what my message was, like, listen, let's go in the same direction. I'm doing this. Literally, my leg is about to fall off. And like, I'm still playing out of my hands or my hands destroyed. But I'm not going to stop until we get to where we go. I want everyone, not just the players, but the organization, everyone to feel. feel the same way because I'm trying to win bro like that's that's all that matters at the end of

the day if you win all the other comes with it so that's kind of my message you know at the end of day people had their opinions on it but for me I wasn't coming from a bad place everyone knows on the planet I want to be a writer I got it tatted I mean yeah you got never want to leave I'm you know I'm locked in for another three years at least um at the current moment so it's like it wasn't like screw the raiders I'm leaving it was like no let's get everyone on the same page listen we got AP we're going the right direction don't don't change it up now and try to go back to square one we've already tried that and did it why don't we give it a chance and let's see what happens so that's kind of you know what my message was is this the same knee that

you injured was this like week three you got fucked up yeah so week two in Buffalo I slammed my knee in the turf and my bursa blew up so my whole knee was just filled with fluid and and then the only way it heals is if you rest and it's week too so there's no resting so literally every week for 16 weeks I was draining that that's different it was bro it was terrible and you still performed at such a high level yeah do you think you would have like I mean what what are people looking for next season then like are you just going to be even more of a animal I don't get it no doubt it starts with the work for sure but I don't like to think you know if I was healthy it would have been this like I know what I when I went on the field I was ready to go so regardless there's that foundation build

up to it bro I start in January and I you know the season ends in January so it's like I said it's all year round and I was prepared for it it was different I had to adjust I couldn't practice as much as I wanted. I had to do a couple different things. But like I talk about all the time and this is what helped me this year was like, you know, everything happens for a reason and there's more than one street to get to where you want to go. Like I had to go down to exit. I had to go to a different routes. I couldn't do all the same things. But at the end of the day, mentally I had to stay locked in. I couldn't be like, all right, well, I can't do this in practice. It's okay if I, you know, take a step back to people understand. Like I refuse to let that get into my mind. Like I'm going to find

find a way to still put in the work but be ready once it comes Sunday but it was just you know I feel like mentally it took me to another level like helped me build up to a different level this year because I had to battle a lot of shit and I was hurting but yeah um we still find a way bro yeah no different different mentality man I appreciate it bro um okay so do you do you I guess I'm really kind of curious though like your childhood and your come up man yeah like and we'll talk a little about the addiction stuff yeah after but where did you where do you really come from like what is your childhood like what is are they here are they supporting you are they obviously yeah yeah yeah no doubt you know i'm originally from the pier michigan out in the country

like right outside of flint uh michigan um super country town i mean yeah i have had lee elementary into school is trailer park right next to it out in the sticks um but it was awesome like all my good friends all my closest friends we literally all lived on the same street we grew up playing basketball football everything together so yeah my parents are together they're still together yeah um you know I grew up middle, low middle class. But yeah, my family did well. And then around 2008, I think it was, 2007, the whole market crashed. And my dad was in real estate.

Yeah. And we lost everything. We lost a house. And my dad left. Like, he was trying to find work, basically. And so it was my mom and my brother and sister at the crib. And we were just waiting to figure out where we're going to move to because we could. And what age are you here?

I was like 10 years old. Okay. I was like 10. So I was like, I was. sick to my summit because like i didn't want to leave michigan at all um and me you know obviously my siblings felt the same way but i you know my grandparents were out in texas so he was looking in texas a little bit for work and then he was looking in florida a little bit but my grandpa was in texas move out there right as i was going into middle school so i went to middle school

in high school out in texas um and then yeah it was it was on from there but it was tough bro like my parents you know the one thing about them like they've been like my mom's been working since she was 10 years old like she's an immigrant she came from yugoslavia yeah she's serving and albanian so i'm half that um you know to talk she's a serving or why not not fully i know a little bit but i'm not going to act like i speak it like that but yeah you know my mom's a worker my dad's a worker he grew up with a single mom um you know my mom had seven brothers and sisters growing up in you know inner city detroit um as immigrants so like i come from that background um you know my parents made it a lot easier on us they made it you know there were struggles and

like that but they've never let us feel it um so i appreciate the hell of them for it and they were working all the time so it was really like most of the time my sister was little but it was me and my brother just yeah doing whatever and we're we're wild but um yeah my upbringing bro it was it was good like i'm not going to sit here and say like it was the worst childhood or whatever there was definitely adversity but we made it work and my parents you know did their best and not let us feel it's got to be see i feel like because people who people who really excel at anything any sport anything really they seem to see kind of like the hard work it takes to at some point in family to be like oh damn and then they kind of adopt that sort of mentality

in order to in their life in order to reach their goals right yeah so at what point were you like obviously you're specimen you're like when are you like six four six how tall yeah you tall yeah and and you're just like like when did you realize football you could really do it you know that's a good question i really was a late bloomer um in high school even like i was a middle linebacker my whole life i was short stocky chubby kid like growing up yeah and then going into my last year of high school i grew like four inches so come up it was crazy bro i'm like let's fucking go no i was so hype so i got a lot bigger um i was goofy like my body hurt everything was like hurting but um yeah i literally just i it was nobody coming after me i had no film

playing dn or anything but they moved me to dm my last year so the coaches were like listen just do what we tell you you're gonna get an offer so i'm like that's all i want i just want to play d1 where it is i want to play d1 so um i just wonder is it like are you just like playing and you just you start playing and you realize like well i'm just better than everyone not not better you know as a person but you're just better in the sport that's bro that's the thing in high school bro like my senior year i wasn't that good like that was my first year playing dn i didn't know what the i was doing yeah so when i got that eastern offer I got it right before my senior year.

I literally just went to a camp and they seen how I moved in, like, we're offering you. So they were D1. They were literally the worst team in D1 at the time. They're like, one in 11. I'm like, that's all I need. I'm originally from Michigan. I'm like, this is perfect. So I took that offer, went there.

And I went to Eastern. I was like literally 6, 5, 2, 12 when I showed up. I was scrawny. Holy shit. Yeah, I was really skinny. I lost way before I went there. Like, I had a weird thing where I wanted to, I don't know. I was playing basketball all the time and I wanted to cut that baby fat when I grew.

You want to be lean. They showed up, they're like, bro, what are you doing? Like, they were freaked out, bro. They thought I had a stomach virus or something. Like, I had a bug. I wasn't eating. I'm like, no, I'm telling you, I cut the bad weight and I'm going to put the good way. They're like, they were concerned, but it worked out, bro.

I went there. I registered my first year and I won scout team player the year, and I just went in practice every day, just figuring out how to play D-N and I was just killing dudes. And that's where I got my confidence. And then two years later, I ended up being a starter. And then that first year as a starter, I took off. And I, you know, I had double-digit sacks, first-team all-conferences like that. And that was my redshirt sophomore year.

So after that, I was like, no, this is real. Like, I'm one of the – I know I could be one of the best. And then agents and all that start coming after me and things like that. So once I got to that point, like, I was like, okay, now it's real. Like, I always believed I could do it. But once I finally put it together on the field, that's where my confidence, you know, went out the roof. And I was like, no, I could really do this. And then I played one more year at Eastern.

And then I left a year early, went to the draft, got a combine invite, and then the rest of the What do you think? What do you think separates like good? Obviously everyone in the NFL is good, right? Because they're in the NFL, but good and like great players. Is this speed? Honestly, no, in the NFL, it's everybody, like you said, everyone, it's the best of the best. Yeah.

All the best players in the world. So everyone's got talent. Everyone are freak athletes like that. But I've said it since day one, like after my second year, once I, I got my life cleaned up, got everything together and started just going straight Kobe mentality with everything, nutrition, take care of my body, sleep, training, like just doing everything above and beyond. Like I literally, every single category.

And it's still, you know, I still do it to this day, even at a higher level. But that's what separates the best guys. Everybody's good. But who's going to put in that little extra work every single day and every category? And those are the best players. And I talk to all of them. Like I go to the Pro Bowl and I just pick people's brains and all the best. guys are the same way so we talk to each other at a different level and they could understand it but

there's some dudes who are just freaking natures but never end up being reaching that potential because they relied on talent i didn't rely off talent i didn't i wasn't even a good player in high school like i had to work for it every single day so now it's like i'm not like just relying off talent like i'm quick athletic like that but i had to build my body up uh and get to that point so it's that's what separates guys it's the mindset yeah i mean it makes sense at at great greatness in any category is like how bad do you want it and how like focused are you on it 100 so it's interesting too because you obviously came from the the addiction it was the alcohol right yeah yeah mainly overcoming that like at what point did that start um honestly from day one

like when i started in high school um oh you were drinking high school yeah and the first time i ever drank in high school i was like i'm in love like this i could go up to any chick and talk now like i was like i was a middle child redhead like yeah i wasn't the most confident kid growing up And, yeah, so once I had the first drink alcohol, I was like, this is, I feel like a new man. So, yeah, it's just kind of, you know, what it was for me. So I went to college. I went to Eastern all the way across the country by myself, basically. And now it's like, this is real freedom.

I could do whatever the fuck I want. It was the worst thing for me at the time. So it got worse and worse. And, you know, I was able to manage it to a certain extent, but I was always that dude that was too up and didn't know how to handle my shit. So, you know, I was able to stay afloat, stay afloat. and then once I got to the league it just got worse and worse and then it's not like college like you're not at you know you're not at school all year round like that like once the season's over

do whatever you want I could do whatever but after my rookie season then it just got worse like I couldn't I was completely out of control I had no limit on what I could do so like I was just partying and doing all doing the most at all time so well it got to a point like it was it was March 11th that was when I got sober in 2020 and I literally I called my girl call my agent i'm like listen i need help like i woke up one morning i was literally beat like sweating my ass off like i felt like death and i was like i can't keep doing that like i'm gonna literally run myself to the dirt yeah and um you know at the end of the day like football is my purpose like

i know my purpose is bigger than just football but um there's no other thing on earth i'd rather be doing there's nothing that is more you know i can give more of an influence on other people and help people and yeah it's just part of the story so yeah bro honestly it was after my rookie season got way out of control and then i was like yeah it's it's interesting though how like it's because because i i've watched interviews and stuff that you've done yeah and think even work ethic wise like you you know it's interesting saying how it was one of the worst things like getting alcohol and you know getting that addiction but in in a weird way kind of how most things end up happening is it's also becomes one of the best things for you because you learn how to deal

with it and you learn to overcome it yeah because i think that's what all this stuff kind of comes down to everything you're saying, it all comes back to the same idea of, like, you realizing, obviously, okay, this is what I really want. Am I willing enough and mentally strong enough to say no to the shit that's fucking me up and not getting me closer there? Yeah. And that mentality, like, to get out of like an addiction, because alcohol is a real addiction. Hell yeah.

To get out of that real addiction and to put yourself in what you really should be doing, that same sort of like mental fortitude it takes to say no to something that's so easy or so like pulling you is why you're able to probably continue to excel at the rate that trick selling that yeah no doubt and that's the thing it's so accessible nowadays and it's so like normal yeah you see it on it's you know every football commercial there's a bud light or a whiskey or whatever it is like you see it all the time and it's become normalized um and for me like that's my superpower my guy you know my sponsor he told me that since day one he's like your sobriety is your superpower he's like there's nobody doing what you're doing on a daily

basis and i live in Las Vegas I got a million bad influences around me um but the fact that I can stay locked in and stay dialed in and keep better in myself as a person like i'm not perfect bro like i still have a million things i got to get better at but i know like on a daily basis i'm getting better and working towards that so um staying sober is number one before anything if i stay sober i got a chance so um that's that's all that matters i wake up every day thank god i'm here and that i'm sober and clean and from there you know from that on i can go and just keep improving so i was watching a podcast on Andrew huberman's podcast with with david goggins they were talking about like a part of the brain that actually like expands or shrinks based on you doing things that that you don't want to do yeah like so so at some point obviously like don't want to do in this sense like okay alcohol's there you saying like physically saying no to this this sort of thing like expanding in your brain it's also related to like dopamine and and your ability to like overcome yeah like the greater it becomes so the more you say no to things that you really want to do or the more you say yes the things that you don't want to do yeah the better you kind of

to become at that. And I think a problem in today's world is like most people just say yes to shit because it's easy and they say no to because it's too hard. So I think the more that you do those things that you don't want to do and you say no to the things that you really want to do, the better you are just as a person, no matter what you're doing. It's crazy because it's a real like physical thing that happens in the body. And it's like the more you practice it because I could recognize that for myself like when I kind of start falling off on certain things like diet or like sleeping out the right times or doing all the things that made me good at what I'm good at obviously it's way different than playing football just physically looking good

being able to perform at a certain level you I can look back and go damn the times that I just was like I'll take this easy road the easier it is to start taking the easy road no 100% so how do you how do you like not fall back into something like that yeah I think it really it just comes on to habits I feel like that's anything in you know in life like it's routine you know once you start doing something over and over again like you said like once you get comfortable waking up at nine am instead of getting up at six yeah um you just become more comfortable and you become normal your body's used to you know taking the easy route so that's i'm glad you said that too because that's a huge part of what got me here too like even in the off season all literally all year around

i get up i'm 545 in the building by 615 630 every morning and there's nobody around like this off season this like nobody has to be there till april i'm in there bright and early and i literally do that just so i wake up and i know i'm already a step ahead nobody else is doing the in the off season i talk to everybody yeah guys around the league shit like that nobody's doing it because it's easier to sleep till 8 a m but i do it it's i'm already a step ahead and it's a win right out the gate like i'm getting up 545 in january and going in the building i'm like nobody's doing this but over time you keep doing that you feel so much better i'm done i'm putting in six hours of work and it's noon and I'm going back home to my girl like do whatever the

i want the rest of the day yeah have my meal prep i eat at the same exact time every day i go to bed at the same time and i feel so much better the next day but if i sleep in a nine work out at 10 30 then i'm already three hours behind of how i usually work and then you know what i mean i can't i can't operate that way but i have like addictive personality i'm obsessive about doing the right way so the way i don't fall back into that is just stay in my routine religiously and it's not easy Like some days I'm like, I do not want to get up at 5.30 right now. It's not supposed to be. It's terrible.

But I know at the end of the day, I'm going to wake up and get up and do my, I'm going to feel 10 times better by myself. And I know I got better and took a, you know, took a step forward. So, yeah. Well, I noticed, I saw you doing the interview with Sean and you were talking about doing things that you don't always do to kind of like maybe get some sort of an edge. Yeah. Right.

Because you started doing some like fighting. You were like sparring with this guy. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. It's wild, bro. That was probably the.

crazy I've done um sparring strickland uh but for sure like i've been boxing for over two and a half years now so that's something i i put into my training and it's helped a ton with with football um his pass rush at the end of day is hands eyes feet yeah coordination timing distance like it's all you know relative so um boxing is huge for me so once i got you know it took two years to go fight strickland i was like i'm not going to go in there and get murdered yeah but i still you know he kicked my but yeah you know i was able to at least hold my own and land some shots and, you know, take some shots and defend myself a little bit. But yeah, you know, doing that's uncomfortable, like, it makes me better. You know, every single

day I'm looking for something to like, all right, what am I going to do that I really don't want to do? I can sit here and chill and relax. Like, how can I improve myself? And every single year, I'm looking for more, you know, just finding that 1% in every category, whether it's doing Epson Salt Bath 40 minutes every night. Like, I added that this year. And like, I do it every night. These ones make fun of me. Everyone makes fun of me. I talk about doing bass because I put candles and shit. Oh, hell yeah.

I'm damned. Bro, you're only the same person. Every single night, bro. And I added that this year, bro. It's changed. I love it, bro. I've talked about this on podcast and I got flamed on this. I do really, really hot Eps and Salt Bass.

I swear to you, bro, I get my best ideas ever. I'm telling you. It might be a blood flow thing and obviously like the recovery thing, but bro, I get the best ideas. I'm telling you, bro. I literally have a setup. I was this big tub in my, in my bathroom. I have my iPad. watch my film i have my laptop and like i literally just sit there it's my favorite it's my favorite

time bro well that's crazy yeah but it's like like that i have a whole recovery like facility basically at my house now i got the the sauna the cold plunge the epsons salt bass all that shit the normatex you'll use red light i have we have a red light at the facility now yeah i'll show you i got everything you just mentioned i have a year i have a room over there i got the sauna back there a cold hot tub over here. It's the best, bro. Obviously, I'm not, you know, defensive player of the year or anything. It doesn't matter. Hey, I'm telling you, bro, once I'm done playing football, I'm going to still be doing the same. Yeah. And yeah, bro, it helps. Like, even though you don't feel it after the first week or two weeks or whatever, over time, you just, you realize,

okay, why do I feel a little bit sharper? Why do I feel better physically? And you just do it over and over and over again. Like, I've been doing it for, like I said, over three and a half years now. Yeah. I can't tell you how good I feel compared to when I was just thugging it when I was young. I think it all comes back to that mental piece of like just doing the things that are difficult because all that stuff is like it takes a little time. Yeah, the sauna is kind of nice. The cold punch is not nice. But all those things that are like

but I have to do this. Obviously there's tons of physical benefits but I think the biggest benefit in all always comes back to the mind. 100% for sure. And it's real because I remember when I like cold tubs I used to all right I'm going to start at three minutes or I'm going to start at two minutes, whatever. Now it's I do it like

off season during the season. I do full rounds of hot tub, cold tub. full 10 minutes submerged in the cold tub every single day. You 10 minutes? Twice. I do seven guys. 10 minutes. 10 minutes, bro.

36 degrees freezing my ass. Are you up to here? No, I'm like, well, basically shoulder, but yeah. Basically. Your big ass probably don't fit the cold tub. Yeah, oh, barely. I'm slumped in there.

But I remember when I first started, I was like, there's no way I could do more than two minutes. But over like two months later, I'm like, damn, I can stay in here for five. Yeah. And then it turns into eight. Now I'm doing. It kind of goes numb. And you're kind of like, I could show.

Oh, it's all mental. yeah you can you this the hardest part is just getting down in there yeah once you're in you're like okay i can yeah i could do this but yeah so who wins in a street fight you or sean strickland a street fight yeah i mean if sean strickland should be in a street fight there's no doubt i'm not gonna say i'll beat him he's a killer though like that dude's oh he's a killer for sure sparring too like we did if it was like NFL films they hit me up they're like hey we want to you know we know you're boxing and stuff you got anybody you know that we could have going in the spa a little bit like this is like a joke yeah like they're like yeah just to get a little bit of footage whatever

i'm like the only guy i know who's a real fighter is strickland because i've known him since like his come up i went to the apex i met him a couple years ago and he's like notorious for being an awful sparring partner he just goes in there and beats the shit out of people but i was like you know we've talked about it before but i'm like i was like we got cameras and i got nowhere to hide i'm like it's another being uncomfortable yeah you filmed it oh yeah we did three three minute rounds bro and it was i left that but my nose was he He was, I, the only thing I hold, like, prideful about is that I gave him a little, little bloodshed.

I cut his lip and I was like, that's all I needed to fucking do. That's it. That's it's, it's, it's fun, though, bro. It was fun. Damn, no, props for that, because that's, I mean, you can step completely out of something that, like, you know, it's not football, right? It's something you're so, I mean, you did two years of it, but with someone who's been doing it, like, damn near his whole life, it's kind of like.

Yeah, it's like him coming out on the football field and trying to block me. You know what I mean? And it's like, if he, if he blocks me one time, that's embarrassing. Speaking of that, I've seen a clip if you, you just call, do you call everyone like, little boy, you just disrespect people on the field or what? It's pretty funny, man. Like I saw this, you saw that clip. I mean, you're you, obviously, you're in it, but.

Of course. Is it like, I saw that guy being like, yo, he's kind of mean. He's like, what the fuck? Did you see that? Of course, of course. Yeah, like last off season, they did the quarterback came out. And I didn't even know it was coming out. They did a whole thing on my husband.

Holmes. And I was just with Mahomes the whole time. I kept punching him after the ball was thrown. And he was like he was so mad. But like every time we go against each other, I'm just trying to put them in his head. And it doesn't matter. Like Mahomes is one guy. And it's obviously Patrick Mahones. But like you can ask any quarterback. I do it to everybody. They just happen to catch it. And then this year they got me doing it to Minshu as well. And I told everybody, I'm like, bro, go ask the quarterbacks and practice what I do to him. I'm like, I do it every single day all year and that's just kind of what i do you know what i mean yeah my job is to be a quarterback destroyer and a offense destroy you got to get in their head too and the quarterback's running the

whole show so i'm gonna try to with them make them as uncomfortable as possible literally all game yeah yeah did you see uh did you see my homes and kelsey uh put the the kicker at the ravens yeah what's what's up with that well Tucker you could tell Tucker was on the wrong side like when you warm up in the beginning of the game like before the game yeah you got your chief side you got your raven side you got the raiders and chiefs whatever and he was on opposite side with all his lined up and it was on the chief side and they just you could tell they're like it's got out of here i've been that way too though like when guys are running around or trying to be on our side or like you could tell they're trying to like you know what i mean just like he was trying

with them 100% that's why they're irritated like bro get your shit out of here like you saw our side you don't think they're bullies no not at all okay i mean it doesn't matter if it's a kicker as a quarterback they'd probably do the same but yeah yeah guys try to do that all the time especially pregame like i don't like i have my section i'm doing my warm up and stuff like the corner of the front corner of the end zone there's any dudes on the other team walking around like or trying to warm up or do some over there like that's not going to fly yeah yeah get the fuck out of your side's over there so yeah yeah what do you think about uh in the nfl there's i guess there was a there was an announcer who got kicked off announcing from some NBC broadcast because he was

like yo why do we keep showing and taylor swift in the box did you see because this is a this is it's It's getting interesting. It's very social media-ish, like, kind of. So what do you think about that guy getting removed? Because I guess he's not in the playoff, no more commentating because of that sort of comment, I guess he made. I mean, they push it hard, especially in the beginning of the year, that's all they talked about. They still talk about it, obviously, but I mean, it is Taylor Swift, and it's the Super Bowl champ. So it's like, I mean, what else are they going to talk about?

Trying to get those views. They're trying to get the views. It's a business at the end of the day. So I'm not surprised by it. But yeah, as a football guy, you know, I don't like seeing all they talk about is Taylor Swift. I'm like, bro, I want to watch the football game. But there's no disrespect to her. It's just funny.

Like all you girls, they'll be like, oh, Taylor Swift's boyfriend. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, it's crazy. I'm like, that's the best tight end in the league, bro. It's pretty funny. But I think like, I mean, they're probably, they're probably somewhat getting a little bit of a new audience. Like probably getting legit more girls maybe to watch. Maybe that was their goal.

I don't know. I don't know. You think it's set up? I don't know set up but I'm just like they're doing it on purpose for sure for the views and they're definitely getting

a whole new audience to go be like oh what's this because that's her boyfriend yeah I mean viewership in the leagues the highest it's been crazy this year

by far so I mean it's not a coincidence I don't think so damn I just think it's funny though man I see it it's so much bro it's so much it's funny though

seeing how everyone reacts with some people hate it and think it's the worst thing in the world like bro relax it is what it is Is, is, is, did you see the, the AI images? What, the Taylor Swift one?

I mean, the internet, bro, nowadays is, it's undefeated. It's so weird. The Andy Reed one, fucking had me crying tears, bro. Actual, actual tears. I'm like, bro, what the fuck is going on? Do they, like, I'm wondering, like, in the, in the, like, you guys talking about this shit? Like, in the locker, like, behind the scenes type of, really, no one, no, no one really cares. I mean, the players don't care.

They're not watching the game broadcasts. Right, of course. Shit like that. yeah nobody really cares yeah but i wonder if they're like behind the scenes being like oh what this because like so much talks about taylor swift now in the n-fro it's like a spectacle but it's crazy they're winning still so so do you have the n-word pass or well because i feel like you almost said it on a fucking video i swear dude i swear i saw video you in the locker room and i was like this guy what am i no i know what you're talking about i know what you're talking about

you're talking about the video with the yeah yeah no i don't have the pass and no i don't use it I think that's the most corny thing on the planet when a white dude tries to use it and act like it's normal. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, that's the funny thing about it. They definitely accept you into the community 100%. Yeah, I mean, a lot of... Yeah.

Some of the closest people in my life are black dudes. Some of the coolest people I know. Same thing. So I'm not trying to be like anybody. I'm 100% myself. But yeah, I think it's just... I think it's hilarious because how it all happened. Like, I'm literally just having a normal day.

Yeah. I practice in the morning. Raiders people come up to me Hey, you take this video You know, get the people hype for the game I'm like, all right, cool, whatever They do it all the time I'm like, what's up y'all, boom, I'm taking the video

I'm the funny as hell I'm taking the video And I, bro, sometimes I stutter Like my brother stutters, I stutter And I was like, y'all need to show up And I like stuttered when I said need And I didn't even think two things of it Like I literally took the video boom

Handed off, appreciate y'all Went in, took a shower go to meetings I'm just two hours later I have meetings not even thinking about it at all all of a sudden I get out of meetings

I check my phone I'm like what the fuck is going on bro my phone is blowing up and so I look at the video I'm like I just start laughing and all these people like bro what the

saying a million things I'm like bro you can't do anything nowadays like I know I didn't say it or try to say it or whatever I'm like bro I'm literally taking a video for the Raiders but I just thought it was funny

bro I was dying laughing And so, yeah, that whole situation was hilarious, and I was totally not expecting it at all, bro. It was hilarious. So what do you have the most fun doing that's not football? That's not football? I mean, I'm pretty simple at the end of the day. Like, I'm a homebody. I got a daughter now.

She's 15 months. She's a wild animal. She's all over the place now running around. So, I mean, being at home, being with my girls, I got three pits. They're like my children as well. and I just I mean I'm not out of the clubs and anything I don't I'm not going to party

I like smoking cigars yeah I mean I keep it pretty simple I like gaming I go home what games you're playing right now I play 2K I play at those sports games I'm a shooter is my shit I like see I play I play a little Fortnite but I'm not like a call of duty kid for some reason I never grew up playing call of duty

so yeah but besides that I'm bro I'm simple I got my tight-knit family my boys I got my own podcast now the rush um so that's something you got to come on oh i'd love to you got to come on yeah we do uh you know we're doing doing some good so yeah i'm doing the podcast and i'm really just dialed in all the time it's football routine work business work what are the business stuff you you got going on um i mean i've i've got equity in a few different companies now um you got the got the slate milk so shout out to

dana oh that's fire bro it's fire yeah yeah it's fire so you know i got equity in that um in business in general like i've really had to i got some good people around me um i mean dana michael reuben those kind of guys um that have helped me a lot as far as you know how to take that next step and being you know not just a football player but business like i got my contract and that's great but like how can i take it to another level and that's something i really interested in so like guys like shack and you know a lot of guys are crushing it and i've been super interested So last off season, I met a lot of people that sat down, like literally went out of my way to just reach out to people.

Hey, I wanted to spend an hour with you. Just put me on some game. So got in with Dana, you know, with the slate thing. He helped me out and met, you know, I got to meet some good people. Zen Water as well. Got in on them. Great people over there. Just trying to, you know, find different avenues so I can stay locked in.

So like when I'm done, I want to have 10, 15, you know, real estate properties. And then 20, you know, different businesses. I'm in on. So I'm not just ending my football career. And it's like, all right, what do I do? Yeah, because a lot of guys, I don't know the stats are pretty insane about people who play football and then like go broke like five, 10 years later. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. No, it's nuts. And that's the thing. A lot of guys wait until they're done to try to figure out what the next step is for me. I, you know what I mean? I don't spend any other time when I'm not in the building or training on I'm not bull. I'm not going out and wasting my days or wasting my time

having fun and clubbing and like that. My fun is like, all right, what's the next thing? can get better at what's work like how can i get better at my job and how can i get in a room with a michael reuben like yeah i literally just hit up rubin i hit up reuben for years and i didn't even know who he was what he did and you know obviously he's as fanatics and he's linked with all these people i'm like i literally was like if you give me an hour i just want i want to ask a bunch of questions or whatever sat down with him and now you know a year later i'm with fanatics now um he's helped me a ton and just as far as advice and learning from him um and different people like that and Dana was the same thing like I literally just love the UFC I would go to the UFC events I show

up and did my thing and then a couple years into it we run into each other we meet we talk and then fast forward last off season he's like bro come to Boston with me like all right so we went to Boston went to UFC event went to London together went to Miami together and like his people at the UFC like they're like my family now so um little like that bro it's just about actually like starting a relationship um and just being genuine like not asking for I never has Dana for nothing like yeah i literally just myself and you know we just became cool and that's what you know in business now it's it's really about just who you're cool with you got a genuine relationship someone will be like hey put in a hundred k on this and we're gonna do this so that's another thing

i'm starting uh some some people over with uh the ufc marty cardova and all those guys were we're opening a wellness center with all the recovery in Vegas so oh that's something yeah that's something we're about to get done too so yeah it's in the works but yeah just ton of shit to staying locked in and improving and, you know, generating actual wealth and creating an empire with all my people. That's why the podcast is another thing. Yeah. You're great at this. You're great at this. No, I appreciate it. But like that's literally, I want to start a podcast. Ben wanted to do it. Started from Ground Zero. All my friends, like, I got my video guy as a buddy of mine, my marketing, all my like day one boys and my college teammates from Eastern. And now, you know,

we got some deals on the table. And, you know, we built it up just organically. So, yeah, to stay in locked in what do you want the podcast to be like is it is like a sports sort of focus thing yeah so we literally the idea kind of came from draymond how draymond did like the post post game reaction and his was more like controversial yeah he's more controversial that's just him in general just like all right i'm a i'm gonna piss somebody off today but that really wasn't it for us us you know our show is we did post game reactions but it was just like showing love you know what i mean to the other guys and giving recognition to some of the other rushers or other guys players around the league that really don't get that type of recognition. So yeah, you know, we've been, we literally started from

Ground Zero with some, we bought some cameras, got a nice little setup and, you know, it's like night and day from, you know, the start of it. But yeah, man, we literally did it during the season. We, you know, got a format, got a plan, and we've been rolling with it. So it's just been getting better and better. And, you know, during the off season now, there's no game. So we're going to take it to a different level. You know, we're going to have a lot more people coming on, different guests and not just football, but, you know, people like Floyd Mayweather, a friend of mine, like just different people from all walks to life. So you got to have Dana.

He's, he's really good on podcast. Oh, Dana's, yeah, 100%. To him, it's just scheduling. So we got to have you on the full send pod today. They just brought me back as a host there. Oh, for real? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I did full send last, last off season.

It was just. Well, I want to do what you on. I want, yeah, no, we have to. It was Stiney and Kyle and the liver king. Oh, that's right. That was, and Sean came on that one, too, right? Yep, O'Malley came on after, but yeah, that was when the liver king was like taken off at that time. And then, yeah, all the allegations came.

Yeah, what do you think about that? What do you think about, like, lying, though, about stuff like that? I mean, if you're going to be juicing or taking shit, like, literally me and Nico just talked about this yesterday. Yeah, yeah. Just be straight up about it. I mean, people who respect it. There's a, I mean, Joe Rogan talks about it, Dana. They're on TRT and like that when, you know, when you get older, it's honestly, people say it's not a bad thing.

You know what I mean? As far as testosterone. on taking a little bit in doses if your doctor agrees like okay you're a little bit low here this is this can help you like i totally understand that being a player obviously i literally know nothing about it um but like you see a ton of people doing it liver king's a 40 i don't know a 45 year old man yeah bro we know you're on some your abs and everything you look like a yeah yeah a monster it's like bro if you would have came out straight up be like yeah i'd take human growth hormone and blah blah people be like all right well nobody's surprised yeah i think

People think that saying I don't do it is going to make people look at them like, oh, my God, you're even more special. 100%. I mean, people really don't care. And I mean, if you look like that, that's not natural, bro. You could just tell. It's not hard to, hard to just, you could spot somebody and be like, yeah, he's taking some shit. Yeah. No doubt.

So, so on the on the, on the, the lineman, the O lineman, who's the softest? Who's the softest O lineman? I mean, I'm not going to. Damn. I'm not going to do that. I mean, they know who they are. When I see them, I let them know every single time. So they know exactly who's the toughest?

Who's the toughest? I would say, by the way, good job not answering that question. Yeah, I'm not answering that. Yeah, they know who they are. But I would say the two toughest got to be Trent Williams and Penae Sewell from Detroit. They just played yesterday. But those two guys, I played both of them. And they were like straight like me and it, like it was war.

every play what makes them what makes them tougher they're just like the non quitting um i would say that it's just a mixture i mean that's all the best players have that similar quality where you know i'm i'm the alpha like i'm gonna win i don't give a who it is i'm gonna find a way to win and when you got a mixture of athleticism and you're strong as shit and you're not going to give up like you put those three things together and it's you're going to be a great player so those two dudes like trent williams is massive yeah nice school big he's big as hell but he's athletic and strong

and he's tough as hell and there's not many guys like you know you step in the league everybody's really good but when the mental part of it when really gets hard being great under duress when you're tired and feel like

that's what separates the guys like myself or Trent Williams yeah like there's no quit in my body like I'll literally go until I physically can't go anymore yeah I always wonder like when you're at that level when you're playing against another team

you're just like this is that guy I got to get past them though yeah but you look forward to it because it brings the best out of you at the end of the day like those are my favorite matchups i love like i don't circle one guy like all right we're playing them i got to be my best like it doesn't matter who it is i'm gonna be i'm gonna be out there on my but like there's a little bit raised sense of awareness when i'm okay i'm going against this dude's a pro bowl or all pro and everyone's hyping it up all week they're like yeah this is this the heavyweight

matchup these two mothers and like for me i i i take that personal i don't want after the game i don't wanted to be a whole max got locked up like i refuse to for that to be you know be out in the public so every time i go no matter who it is like i got to be on on point because once you get to that level no matter what you're going to be either you're going to get all the love or if you don't play at your absolute bet you're going to get killed yeah you know what i mean and football man the fans are so serious that's how it goes and like you could ball out too and some fans if you don't just completely rack the game they're like oh we got his fucking ass locked up and blah blah blah but that's just like a part of the internet like yeah you understand like you know at the end of the day like when

the game has like oh yeah I whooped his it doesn't matter what the you know public says the other fans are always going to on you if they win the game and you didn't completely you didn't have three sacks and like oh we we stopped him and blah blah blah so that's just kind of part of the game it's got to be it's got to be interesting though now like it's different now for sure social media has changed so much in so many sports because there's you have so much commentary from like you know you get on Twitter and people are like probably talking saying whatever yeah all the time is it how does that ever does that ever affect you when i was young it used to i used to read into everything and be like oh fuck it could be 20 good comments in that one

comment yeah yeah um but that just kind of what it was but as i gotten older like i'm numb to it like i truly i don't care because if if i watch the film i watch the film immediately right out to the game boom yeah i've whooped his and i already know like you know what i mean so people could say whatever they want um but for me like the film doesn't lie so people get you know people are going to have their opinions after the colts game i got to the minchus came out yeah they beat us and i didn't have a sack i had one of my better games overall like i was killing dudes out there but fans don't know that they don't know football like they don't watch the film so they won and they got saw me talking to minchu the whole colts every colts fan on the planet

was blowing my comments up you fuck minchus your daddy and i'm just laughing bro like and my friends like to a certain extent like they don't understand how it is being in that she was like bro you good whatever i'm like yeah i can't care less bro yeah like i know how it is at the end of the day i go to sleep with a smile on my face uh you know i put the work in and it is what it is just part of the game i wonder i always wonder what it's like in the in the half time when you guys are down you're losing you come like are people are people mad at each ever in the in the locker room like yo bro what the because like because it is such a like i said earlier such a massive team sport where yeah you got to do your job if you do your job great

you have to yeah but when you know you know you know you know you know you You got the other side, whatever to be like the offense is not doing it. Are people ever like, yo, bro, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, I mean, that comes down to accountability. I mean, there's always going to be moments, especially in the league. It's, bro, you have 17 games and every game matters. It's not like college, like where you're expected to just roll through 10 out of the teams. And, you know what I mean?

It's not like that. So you've got to be on point at all times. And you need the offense to be good. You need the defense, people to step up and help. So, yeah, there's times where. I got to get on, I don't know if it's a rookie or an eight year vet, like I've had to get on dudes and mother fuck them if, you know, they're bullshund, you know what I mean? So that's part being a leader, though.

Like, I love being a captain being a leader because, you know what I mean? I've had to earn and work for that respect. And if it doesn't look right or somebody's bullshund or not run to the ball the right way, like, you know, I'm not afraid to go at them, but it's not like an attack. You know what I mean? At the end of the day, you address it the way you address it. And then people respond how they respond. And like, if guys take that as, like, offensive.

then they shouldn't even be there in the first place. So that's kind of how you just weed out, you know, the guys that shouldn't be playing. Yeah. I wonder how many people are like, because you play with that injury for such a long time. I wonder how many people are just like constantly dealing with injuries. I mean, it's common. I mean, in the NFL, I mean, you see it every year. There's more and more injuries, knees, ACLs, all type of crazy concussions all the time.

Like, it's literally, you're out there. It's a full-blown, like, head-to-head, kind of. contact constantly in the trenches it's every single play almost yeah so it's like you can't avoid it you know the only way to you know lower your chances of getting hurt is doing all the shit i do every day it's take care of my body the right way doing everything so i'm as flexible as i possibly can be because there could be a pile and someone fall into the side of my knee that's probably when people probably mostly get injured too yeah like the scramble type like not paying attention if somebody falls into you like that can happen but like that's something i pride myself like i

stretch every single night 12 15 minute routine i've done it i do it every night if i'm on the road if i get back at 2 a.m from a flight i'm stretching before i go to bed because like like that if there's been sometimes on film i can show you clips where i've been rolled up on or been at a weird position and if i wasn't as flexible as i am which i think separates me in a lot of ways like i could have blown my knee out many times or blown a hip out like there was a play last year where i fell like full body weight on one leg and my was like the average person's leg would have blown out yeah and but like that stretching and recovery like you know it helps I feel like it does like sometimes it's unavoidable like you could have a non-context stick your foot in the ground

and blow your knee out yeah that happens too but like I feel like it lowers your risk well I know it lowers your risk if you do all the right shit every day yeah are you gonna do you plan to stay with the Raiders for good I want to you know I want to retire a writer there's no question about that yeah um I love being narrator you know what i mean i feel like it's who i was born to be on i feel like it fits exactly who i am mark and the whole you know front office guys like i got a ton of love for him you know recently he was a little you know upset with me about the whole deal that went down but at the end of the day like that's any relationship there's not going to be perfect smooth sailing yeah i mean at the

end it sounds like you just want to f*** in that's all that matters to me bro yeah and i want him to win you know that's the thing i'm not coming from a selfish perspective where it's like No, I don't give a, like, I'm going to give my money regardless, whatever. Like, it's not that. I want to win here, and I want him to win and have success, and I want him to trust his instinct, you know what I mean, not be influenced by the wrong people, you know what I mean? So that's really, really what it comes out to.

Did you see? Because, dude, Oakland's lost, like, they lost, like, everything. They lost all their teams. They recently lost In-N-Out Burger left, left, uh, did you see that? No, the first in-out ever to close because it was, there was, like, getting robbed. People were getting robbed at, like, crazy. But Raiders, like, everything has moved to,

Vegas and Oakland's like lost all their teams everything I feel bad bro I mean Oakland when we were there was was rough I mean yeah I got car broken into had to get a rental and the rental got stolen straight out the parking lot like a rental rental gone never seen again that's like Oakland bro you literally once they changed the laws um it's just like it's like a slap on the wrist basically to break in cars now so you park on the street two minutes later you're getting run through So, yeah, Oakland was wild. I mean, Oakland was wild. I can't tell you.

I had a teammate, Kyle Wilbur, great vet of mine, and he got a motorcycle brand new. No, that's it. You can pick that. Bad motorcycle. Someone literally hopped on that and drove off a week later. He bought like 40, it was like 40K in cash or 30. That was gone in less than a week.

Damn, bro. And my other teammates. I have stories on stories about just, I mean, it was all the time. Yeah. It's crazy. So, so how is it, how is it in Vegas overall? Vegas is great, bro. I love Vegas.

That stadium's insane, dude. Stadium's crazy. I mean, Vegas is smaller than people realize. Like, you got Henderson, Summerlin, you could raise your kids. It's quiet, great people. You wouldn't even know it's Vegas. But then you go to the strip. You want to go have a great dinner, go gamble, do whatever.

You can go 20 minutes down the road and go do it. So that's why I love Vegas because it's literally the best of both worlds. And I plan on staying there. Like, regardless, I'm like, I just, you know, know closing on a new house in summerland but i plan on yeah staying in summer and i'm yeah just got a new place so i love it out there it's beautiful bro yeah beautiful i'm gonna open a gym out there eventually and i want to get a spot out there for sure no we definitely we got to talk about that we'll do some yeah i was gonna because when you just talked about the clinic thing i was

like i was gonna do the same hell yeah no we literally just talked yeah we just got that in the works you're gonna do a cool wellness center and do it the right way it's something i believe in and that's something too with the business part it's like you don't just do it because to do it like it's got to make sense and I like having shit that I actually am passionate about or I really won't care because it's what you actually do yeah shit that I do the stuff that you're talking about the recovery that's why all the stuff that I really have at this point in my life and the things that are most successful are all things that I really do like the gym stuff I really did it 100% I think that's how you you get things and you make them truly successful yeah because you

care about it and you put your full energy into it if you don't give a about it it's just a paycheck at the end of the day and then eventually it fizzles out but like if you're passionate about something it makes it 10 times better and that's what you know even the slate milk like i got slate milk now in the building so all the guys are walking around with slate cans and having it post workout and now i got a part of my routine it's in my post no workout meal so yeah just that actually relates to what i do is you know it's important so do you want to do you want to parlay this into like some sort of commentary role it sounds like you talk about you mentioned people like shack and like obviously

he's got crazy business outside of you know his respective sport he's doing the commentary stuff because I think you could, like, obviously not right now because your main focus is football. But is that something in your future you want to go towards? I don't think commentary is what I want to do. You know, honestly, the guys that, you know, I look up to in that space is more of like the Pat McAfee, bar stool type.

Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Just being real. Like, I don't want to be buttoned up having to be reading the teleprompter, like being told what to say. Yeah. That's not my personality at all. If I want to do it, it's just like anything.

like i want to be passionate about it and be 100% myself so yeah that's kind of what our inspiration was was like the pat maccafee like he's got literally his day one boys with him yeah they do their they're 100% them and authentic and people see that and feel it so that's literally what i did like all my guys in my show it's my co-host brogan it's my best friend he was my quarterback at eastern and then my other two guys on the show are darian and uh creel and creel was a receiver Darren was a old lineman and we were literally like they're the ogs like when i got to eastern one of my official visit these were the guys they had the football house they literally took me out of their wings since day one so like i'm the youngest of the group so these are like my like my brothers

so it just makes it 10 times more fun and you're doing work with your guys and then and you keep it black and white like this is what we're doing we're not around like we're still going to do this the right way because when you have your friends around you know people tend to like you think you get a little bit more leeway and shit that but like no like we're going to take to the top like whatever level we get to we're going to get to but like we're going to do it the right way and give us a real chance so all my boys like we're 100% on the same page and you know it's been it's been a lot of fun yeah and i think i think when you do anything like we said from that space of like truly wanting to do it like for the right like even the fact that right now you're

like you would probably get the biggest bag from doing commentary but your your answer is i want to do it this way kind of my way a little bit more just truthful to you yourself yeah that's when especially nowadays like you see it on social media like so much is moving away towards away from like mainstream kind of whether it be commentary or all this stuff yeah because people are way more interested and invested in like you know some creator who's making content about something because it's nine times out of 10 just genuinely what that person thinks and not what you know maybe some corporation wants them to think or say yeah no doubt no doubt and that's the that's the thing like you see mackafie do you know college game day and like that now and

he's doing w w he's all type of different stuff and you see gronkowski's now doing it and brady like a deal like that where somebody wants to bring you in because you are who you are and like they like your personality for what it is like macfee goes on the shows and is 100% himself he doesn't try to be anybody else and something like that i would be interested like if it was a one what one time a week where i go on a sunday and go talk NFL with some guys like i would do that for a business if i could actually be myself you know what i mean not be like all right you can't say this this and this and blah blah guy would you know i would consider something like that i mean there's so much money being thrown

around in that space it's unbelievable like yeah tom brady has a 375 million dollar deal i mean just for tv that's more than all his NFL contracts combined so crazy which is insane so like if something you know obviously that's a whole whole another level but like by the time i'm done i expect to be a hall of fame player and i expect to you know be one of the greats to do it in my era so you know what i mean something like that comes across the table where i'm going on the weekends to do like yeah i love staying busy and doing work so that's something that you know i would consider what do you want your legacy to be what do you want people to remember you like when you're when it's all said and done what do you want to leave behind truly yeah the number one thing for me at the end of day is

legacy like that's what i care about most i want to be remembered for all the right reasons when it comes to being a football player um one thing i probably myself like it's little but like people talk about it often but it's like the amount of snaps i played something simple as that where If I could change the game and have people really reconsider how the DM position is played, then I've done my job. You know what I mean? I'm playing a thousand 80s. I played a thousand and 80 snaps this year by far the most in my position.

Like I played 95, something percent of the snaps, which D-Lyman don't do, period. So, and I do it at a high level. So if I could do that and change the, you know, change the mold of, okay, this dude is, you know, he's an animal. He's doing it every single down. He's not coming off the field. And doing it at a high level. they'll make people reconsider like okay maybe like crowds we can do this like maybe we're not doing it the right way yeah we're like if i'm coming up be like yeah if i'm coming off every other possession

like which a lot of guys do like maybe that's a a cardio issue or you're not doing something right in the off season so like if i'm able to change the game and the way i play like fly around the field like i don't have no regard for my body when i play like i want people to look back and be like yeah that dude was different like yeah he you know at the end of the day you can look at stats and all all the shit that comes with it but like it's all about the film like you turn on the film and watch me play compared to everybody else i want them to say like no nobody's playing like that yeah and so when i have coaches and other players calling me and telling me like bro what do you do in the office what do you that's the best compliment bro like every game i can't tell you how many guys come up

and how many coaches are like what are you doing like how are you able to i'm like i do it every day and like i don't just say it i'll sit down and we can break down the whole day the whole off season i tell you exactly what i put my body but it's you know most guys aren't willing to do that like it's the ultimate sacrifice but for me if i do it for 12 years 15 years and i look back i'm 35 when i'm done i'll have zero regrets and i can do whatever the i want to do the rest of my life that's that's what i want to leave back is just have zero regrets and leave a legacy it's like my relentless play style i want that to make people consider like reconsider how the how the positions you have kids coming up like from from high school being like you got to do like cross yeah you got to

do it like him like this dude that's that's literally the ultimate that's so cool man for sure bro so what about as a what about just as a human yeah not as a football player yeah i mean as a person the number one thing like i want to have a big family like i already have a daughter um plan on having more kids um and for me you know like i said sobriety is number one if i start if i stay sober i have a chance and anything i do um and that's like i said it's my superpower so being a you know when I'm done or off the field or whatever I want to be the best version of myself it's not just being all in on football like I want that to translate off the field as well so whether that's being a dad whether that's being a business owner whether that's being a part owner whatever it is like I want to

be remembered as a as a great person like every single day like I know people say all the time like yeah I want to be a great guy whatever yeah but like it's about action like when people talk about me I want them to you know remember me for being a loyal down to earth real like real individual because there's a lot of people that get money and change and it's like the biggest turn off and like when i was a kid i was like i'll never be like this dude because my mom is a waitress like i'm not going to say who she ran into when she was in detroit when she was young but like there's big name players that she run into she's like this 20 years later my mom's like this mother's beating hit me shit and but people remember that shit everywhere i go like this is something

i got from dana too everywhere he goes he tips a lot of people and takes care of people and people in need or like friends need something put them in a position to succeed that's what i want my you know legacy off the field to be it's like i always like i want to be a boss in my own right but help the people that help me you know along the way and just give them an opportunity you can hand out money but at the end of day it literally does nothing they're going to come back and say hey i need this or hey my bill's behind i want to put people in position so whether it's doing the podcast i got getting my buddies actual money in their pocket right i'm doing you know business and getting other people involved i got a photographer this kid in vegas named slime he's young kid he's 20 22 23 years

old he's doing he's editing videos he's doing behind-the-scene vlogs now and now i'm getting them paid to do shoots for men's health and different yeah um and just put money in his pocket so like that's literally you know what i want to do and i get a lot of the i get um off the field is like is what dana's doing because the way he is with his people and how he takes care of people and just treats people the right way, it always comes back in the end. If you're an asshole, you can have success for 20 years. That's just going to bite you in the ass in the end. So I try to treat, you know, from if I'm in the building, I treat Mark Davis just like I treat Hugo, the janitor. No matter what it is. I remember when I first met you, man, you were so just like, oh, yeah, what's up. You weren't like,

oh, I do this. I's what I. No, I don't. I just try to be myself, bro. And I'm still a kid at the end of the day. I'm still growing as a person. I don't try to say, hey, I'm perfect. I'm better than you. But I know, like, at the end of the day, like I got my heart's in the right place. So I can sleep at night um and that's what it's about like i said like hugo the janitor i see this dude every day is my boy like yeah i treat him just as good as i treat anybody else and like guys like that i'll bring him to a game i'll have him bring his family out you know if i got a suite now at the game so if i have some random people a fan or whatever that's a huge diehard fan i'll be like boom come to the game yeah that's what i'm saying like but that comes back and i truly believe in that

bro. And Gus Bradley, my old D coordinator, he said the same. Like, whatever, if you give with no intent to receive, the shone's back twofold. And I truly, I truly live by that. No question. Damn. No question. I, I, I just wonder, when you were, when you were on your way up, like, because this mentality, right, did you, did you have it the whole time? Or did you sort of adopted by seeing people that you saw who had success? Like, were you, did you have inspirations, is what I'm saying for this? Yeah, yeah, no doubt. I mean, I didn't come in and, you, know into the NFL and have a bunch of leaders in the locker room you know what i mean it wasn't a bunch of guys i looked up to it was kind of how can i get on the level of a von miller or aran donald or

chanler jones at the time like yeah guys like that so when i came in as a rookie i literally got on instagram i dmned all the best players who i thought were the best players to this day von miller's like a brother to me yeah aran donald literally like anything i need i could hit up erand donald we just we're talking yesterday like i was like i want to be at your level how the fs do i get there so Asking guys like that, stepping outside of my comfort zone and like asking real questions. All right. What did you do as a rookie? What did you do?

Nutrition. How are you recovering like that? And I just put it all together. You know what's crazy about that? Like I had the same conversation with Ronnie Coleman, one of the greatest bodybuilders for all time. He did the same when he came in to like bodybuilding. He's like, what are you doing? What are you doing?

And he like took everyone and just like, I mean, in that sport, he just dominated everybody. For sure. But it's definitely like there's so much, there's so much game and so much knowledge to take. It seems like your, your biggest. pieces that just sort of mental fortitude to like just be better every single day which is such a common thing that everyone says and everyone's like yeah that's what you got to do but there's you could tell there's a difference between people who really do it and people just talk about it yeah of course you could talk about all day I used to be when I was

a rookie or a second year guy used to talk like I'm gonna be the best and whatever but I wasn't actually doing it every day that's the only way you do it is putting in the work have discipline and do it every day and you got to be obsessive about it at the highest level whatever you're doing if you're doing bodybuilding you're doing podcast no matter what walk of life you want to be at the top of that you have to do it every day and you have to sacrifice constantly like i'm in the building first every single day and i'm gone it's dark outside i get home my daughter's already asleep wednesday through friday like i don't even get to see my daughter but by saturday i get to chill with her and do my thing or whatever but like that's the

unfortunate sacrifice that comes with it but that's what it that's what i have to do yeah and i'm doing it for them. I want my daughter to live the best life possible. I don't want her ever to have a worry. And I want to raise her the right way. My wife, we used to like even like over a year ago, like it got to a point my routine was so like diligent that she was like, she's thinking I hate her and I don't even want it. You know what I mean? And she's going crazy. And like we were fighting all the time. She's like, you won't even spend any time of me. I said, listen. And we sat down like state of the union type shit. And I said, listen, this is what we're doing. Like this is what I want. and I'm this is not going to change then I'm only going to do more and get better and like if you want

to be a part of this like I want you to be a part of this you've been with me since day one she was with me before I ever made a play in college or nothing and she played soccer like she was a star soccer player so like I she's seen it since day one and it's been a part of the whole journey I'm like listen this is where I'm going and I need you and I want you here to be a part of it you have to understand this is what I'm chasing and this is what I'm working towards so we will like I need to spend more time with you of course I can be better at that but like we have to be on the same page like it's not going to be easy and i got i literally got her the book uh the tim grover book i gave it to her i said read the book and tim grover we ended up being we connected we're

you know we're good friends now and it fully it's like i'm reading exactly my life yeah crazy yeah and it it's further solidified all right i'm not up if i want to be at that level want to be a hall of fame you have to bro you have it's not easy and there's no balance people talk about you need a balance a home of it when you're in it there's it's impossible i'm in the building 13 14 hours a day yeah every day that's not a balance yeah i'm home for three four hours before i go to bed and i'm back in it so like if you have somebody in a team around you that understands that you're gonna keep getting better and getting better because that's the hardest part is having people to understand it and that's the only way you can you know do it and you know maintain it this so your

wife she fully understands it now oh she still times where it's like there's times i mean there's times where like, you know, from recovery standpoint where I'm gone 13 hours a day, first thing, Norma Tech, then I'm game ready. Yeah. And then watch a little film. I eat dinner, boom. And then I'm 40 minutes straight and ups. It's all-season long.

So it's like our time together. Our window is not the same, but like she understands it. And she'll take a bullet for me, like legitimately. She's been through everything with me. My addiction, she's been there by my side the whole time. So she understands it. And there's, of course, we've had ups and downs a million times. But at the end of the day, I always ran back to her.

Because I knew she was genuine. She didn't give a shit about money, about none of that. She just genuinely loves me and cares to me. So when you have somebody like that that gets it, it makes my life 10 times easier because I'm not worried about, you know, is she in it for the right reasons? Or I didn't, you know, I didn't get with her once I got in the league. You know what I mean? It wasn't like that.

She got with me when I had no beard. I had Eminem, Belichette. I had no beard. I looked like a little kid. No beard is home. No beard and bleached blonde hair. I looked all the way for that. And she was with me.

And I had a man bun at one point. I was like 18 years old. And she was with me. Then I looked at the pictures. I'm like, yeah, she's a real one. She was a real one. Dude,

no beard and a man bun is a sicken comedy. Oh, it was, yeah, it was something out. So, yeah, she was with me at those times. I mean, she's in it for the long haul. Yeah,

it was beautiful, dude. I love, I love what you doing, man. And if there's any way I can help support, I'm fully there. No doubt. I mean, when it comes to the gym

in Vegas, we'll, I mean, we'll definitely talk. We got to talk that up for sure. No doubt. But, bro, thank you so much for coming on. It's been an honor. It's been a blessing, man. You're the man, bro. You're the man, bro.

Straight up. No, I appreciate it. I like the mentality, everything, bro. It's like, it's different. And it's always cool to talk to people who succeed at the highest levels because, like you said, it's always the same. Yeah. Everyone always has the same sort of like, you have to be a little crazy about your goals.

Like, I love what you said about balance. And at this point in your life, there can be balanced. Obviously, you want to work towards as much as you can. Yeah. But it just can't be balanced, man. No, it can't. Like if you want that greatness, it can't. And I don't think anyone who ever did anything great lived in like, this is so balanced.

No, it's actually impossible. It's impossible. And that's the reality. There's been families torn down from not, you know, everybody not being on the same page. And that's just the reality. But at the end of the day, if you got a real team and people that love each other and understand each other, then you'll have a chance of doing it. And that's literally what I'm doing right now. so what are the things that are most important for that to work though it seems like it's

communication it's all communication it's literally all communication um like i said like we were in the roughest paths like once we had ella like ella got here and you know how it is it's not easy for any woman once they have a baby they feel you know insecure they're trying to figure everything out their hormones are all over the place so like we were fighting all the time just for no reason yeah and we're just back and forth back and forth and like we literally were going through it. And it just got to a point where I'm like, all right, we need to sit down and let's, let's be real. What are we doing? Yeah. Like, how are we going to fix this? I'm not going to do this every day. We're just bickering at each other, staying away from each other for no

reason. Like, we're going to stay together. We're going to live together. We're married. Like, let's figure it out. So we're all on the same page. Like, if we're not, then we're just going to be miserable. So that's really what it came down to. And yeah, she's right to die. Yeah. Would you say you're more of like a traditional kind of guy? What do you mean? In the sense of like family, like breadwinner take care of the woman my mom is like i said my mom is serving an albanian that whole side of the family they're all very old school traditional and that's kind of kind of what i believe in you know well not kind of i i fully believe in that i feel like the man is a is a breadwinner yeah um you provide take care of your family take care of your girls no matter what it is i'm paying the

bill like i take it as a sign of disrespect if anybody even a cousin or whatever like tries to come and pay a bill like like i take care this is y'all are in my in my house my city my I got the bill so like that's that's how I was raised and then the women you know I mean there's been a lot of controversy even Strickland started that whole thing but like you know I women could do whatever they want if they want to work the 100% more power to them like like in my family structure like Rachel's a stay-at-home mom she takes care of Ella she takes care of her around the house yeah make food like that's just how we how we do it and I'm I bring home I'm working all day I bring home the money I pay the bills take care of them make sure she never has a worry

make sure my family doesn't have a worry and I'm good you're a good example man and for kids and for people who watch like just football everything aside you definitely said a good example I appreciate it bro and it's an honor to have you on man I honor to talk to you for real

I'm proud of I gotta get you on the pie I'd love to be on the pie anything you need for me man I'm always there for you no doubt because you were you were I swear when I met you were just just you weren't like you could be you know on your stature and where you're at you could be like a dickhead

not at all cool as super and just like, yo, come, I'll give you this. I'll help you with that. So even off camera, because on camera, you get on here, everyone gets on camera and they say all the good stuff. Yeah. I got to let everyone know off camera, you were that same exact dude to me,

and you barely even knew me at that point. Yeah, I mean, I just knew you through literally this, podcasts and like that, but I appreciate it, man. Yeah, there's a lot. So anything you need, man, blessing. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you, you, I think you got a great, a great voice

and a great mentality for podcasting for sure. I hope you take it super far. No doubt. Thank you, Bill. Yeah, man. Absolutely.

You have any questions for me or are we good? I mean, you know, I always... The only thing I'm surprised about was you didn't ask about us in a street fight.

Oh, because I asked you in strickland. Yeah, well, who wins in the street fight? Yeah, I was like you asked everybody. But I did the street fight with Strickland because I knew you fought Strickland. Okay.

But who wins, though, me or you in a street fight? Me. You, even with that busted knee? Not with the knee down. Healthy. Healthy. Healthy.

You box. I'll kick you. Yeah, I mean, you got me with one line. Not, nothing you don't know. But just fully traditional, yeah, it would be. Let's get you fixed and then do a little sparring. I'm with that all day. I love it.

All day. Oh, love it. Huh? Well, no, no, the pads on. Yeah, we got to do one and one. One-on-one. You have to try to block me and then we'll fight. What do I got to do?

What do I got to do with the, I got to get past you? No, you, you would be an old lineman trying to block me. That's too easy, bro. What do you mean? Too easy for me or too easy for you? Too easy for me. I feel like you guys have the crazy mentality. The interview is over.

I appreciate you. No, I'm Josh. I'm fucking around. But I feel like you have to have that crazy mentality. You have to. I mean, if you don't believe in yourself, who will. It's a fact, man. That's a fact.