RAWTALK - Mike Majlak Confronts Bradley Martyn About Logan Paul Beef, Why George Janko Is Off Impaulsive

Episode Date: August 1, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Are we rolling? Yeah, it's live. It's not live. Bro, don't even try that. You all know better, dude. Okay, it's not live. Bro. What's going on, man?
Starting point is 00:00:15 Dude, I mean, well, first and foremost, we were supposed to do this podcast a long time ago. Yeah, we were. It's taken a lot of time to get back to the couch. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm fired up today, bro. And I know, and I sense that you're probably, fired up too bro i'm always fired up yeah maybe that's true but we definitely we definitely have a bunch
Starting point is 00:00:35 of a bunch of shit to talk about like let me ask you this question right off the bat why am i on this couch right now how the fuck did i end up back on this podcast like why do you why do you even want me here i i was just talking about this i had brendon on two days ago posted that pod it would have been yesterday excuse me it's today as we're filming this and the reason why i love having you on the podcast is just because I like to talk to you. And I think we always tend to have good conversation just about any sort of topics, things that are current, things that are happening. And I really never wanted to have a podcast where it was based on guests. And I've always been afraid of that because I knew that at some point, like how many times are you going to be able
Starting point is 00:01:19 interview Elon Musk or like these big massive guests? There's only so many guests. And I've watched this happen to podcasts where it's like if your content is just based on the biggest guests or the biggest celebrities then it's like at some point it fizzles because there's no real real like substance right for example i talked to brend about this that i said in the pod i just posted about joe rogan joe rogan has the most successful podcasts in the world because he's able to have conversations with a random scientist that you've never heard of but the conversation is so intriguing that you want to listen yep so with you the reason why i like you coming back and i have Brendan and people that i've seen they've been on the show before and people that i've been on their podcast many times
Starting point is 00:01:51 is because you're good at having conversation and you're good at explaining yourself and your thought so that's what i really value and that's why i always want to have you back because I don't want to be like, you, I got a bang with this crazy episode. Of course, I love that. But if I couldn't sustain that forever, no one can't. I mean, I feel like it, with me, it depends on the day sometimes. I think, you know, I talk about it all the time.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I kind of met the, the mercy of my mind. And I know this is something else that you and I relate on in a massive way. Is this ongoing battle that we have with ourselves, which is truly, you know, the greatest battle that any man faces. in their life like coming to terms and and being right with themselves you know what i'm saying and and so i mean you you you you know we we've certainly i love coming on the show i i really enjoy coming on the show i love talking to you i know we're going to talk about a lot of shi um one of the things being you know comments that were made on the impulsive show recently when does this episode
Starting point is 00:02:50 come out this this will be out next week next week next Tuesday okay so um and and you know as a preface to that And the reason I'm bringing it up now is just because before any of that shit popped off, the reason we got into Bradley Martin discussion was because I was singing your praises. You know what I'm saying? I think you're an incredible podcast host. I think you have a very expanded amount of wisdom just through life experience and through, you know, going through trials and tribulations. And we've entered a strange time on social media and in the commentary and online personality,
Starting point is 00:03:28 community where, um, with the exception of a few people, the majority of pundits and personalities are, are people preaching about how to live life. And a lot of them haven't even lived life. We talked about this on the phone. Right. And so like you, you have these people, some of them in their in their 20s, their early 20s. And I tweeted about this yesterday. I said, I really don't want to hear anything that anybody under the age of 25 has to say. And that's, and that's, and that's, that's a blanket general statement. There are some kids that lived in Sudan and there are some kids that have lived in Syria or wherever and have been through war the entire life. They lost both of their parents. They understand what it's like to go through
Starting point is 00:04:04 hardship since 12 years old. But a lot of these online personalities nowadays are young kids who have never gone through anything. And the only thing in this world that can teach you how to properly live life is living life. There's nothing else. There's nobody that can bestow the toolbox upon you that you need to get through this existence other than doing yourself and you've been through it and that's why I like talking to yeah so thanks for having me back on and hello to your audience and I appreciate you guys you're right you're right dude again no man I love I love it and if they didn't even love it honestly like I love it I don't go complain about you being a guest again I'm I don't
Starting point is 00:04:50 care right I do like the only reason why I have success is because I did the things I wanted to do right genuinely speaking now to your point I totally, I agree to an extent because I think what's happening is if we're referencing like the younger creators or the younger people popping off saying stuff, speaking their opinion, the reason why like it is also important is just because all of us learn at different paces. Right. So like someone who's 22. Yeah, they probably, I mean, they for sure haven't been through in not in all cases. Like like you said, there might be some outliers where like this 20 year old has went through. this much more shit than someone who's 25 or 30 but regardless like it's still irrelevant when it comes to like generational and like age and like upbringing and going through like because for example if we think like right now kids who live a completely different life than us completely different like stressors completely like everyone is just like the internet age it's like on the internet on the phone those people those kids whatever younger generation they have like a whole different
Starting point is 00:05:51 perspective on life absolutely so like obviously you and me older right we're not going to look at there for a second be like okay that's really uh valid for us because we're completely separated from it right but that's a that's this is but this is the greater thing that's happening on the internet that thinks really interesting is like there's just so much of everything and it's getting to a weird point and you know i was talking about this where like do you think and i said this on the pop but i want to ask i want to talk to you about this too in the next like 10 years 20 years like do no one is going to be like i'm tuning into CNN or i'm at the television and watching this news and the outlet.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Like I think like news outlets are just dying because people lost a lot of faith in them for so many reasons over the last fucking five years. And also now everyone is just picking their kind of like content creator that they like to listen to, talk about relevant topics, talk about things or ideologies, et cetera. And so they're just becoming this like massive like array of just everything. And it's it is getting to a weird point where there's so much. Yeah, oversaturation. I mean, it's also great.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I mean, it's a great thing. But I have a bit of fear in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, what those different personalities and people are saying. And I think, I think we've talked about this pendulum on the show before. Um, I am 100% in agreeance with this idea that, you know, that a lot of these people are, are kind of propelling right now. that we in a lot of ways have lost our way as a civilization, as a society.
Starting point is 00:07:29 The past decade plus have been a bit insane and there have been some absolutely ridiculous viewpoints, rules, laws, feelings, thoughts, sentiments that have been force fed down people's throats. And I get that. And I think right now what you're seeing is this massive swing back of the pendulum to traditionality,
Starting point is 00:07:54 to religion, to more, less Western philosophical viewpoints, right? And I'm for that in some ways, and I, and I, more so I understand it, and I'm aware of why it's happening. But, but my fear is that one of the things that we're losing, and I always go back to this, one of the things that we're losing is, is, uh, empathy for other people. And, and the reason I say that and the reason why I tie it back to that, uh, young, creator viewpoint is it's very easy to get caught up in someone's ideas of what's right and wrong for you know as a blanket statement for the entire world and how those are the only way
Starting point is 00:08:39 ways life can be lived right without taking into consideration all of the variables all the external factors all the stressors all all the illnesses substance abuse problems that people go through right and so I don't think you can garner that empathy without living life. No, no online personality is going to teach you to understand why people do what they do. Why people seem to live by a lower moral code than you might think they, that, then, then you might think they should. Right. Right. And so I just, I just, I understand why the pushback is happening. I just really wish that people weren't being so mean to each other. Yeah. Well, this is the thing that I, I've just really found interesting.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Like, if I look back during the, um, the P. Demi era and like, I'm not, this is no, knock at H3 and the people who like attacked me on the internet for like keeping my gym open this is no knock but I remember during that time feeling this same exact way and it was in regards to why I kept my gym open and it was just like you're you know it was again I've talked to H3 about this everything's good the guy's dope he's he's showed me tons of love but it was like oh you're a dumb meathead you're just doing this because you're doing this and and but there's so many reasons why I did it and so many reasons why I was against it for specific like real health reasons and me like the way that I dealt with the city the way the city had approached me the way
Starting point is 00:09:56 they were enforcing these like rules and regulations in ways that were just like applicable to me but not to them and not to them but okay to them and it just none of it made sense and I remember thinking like to your point about people going like hey this is what I believe and everyone else is just wrong and stupid I felt the same way on that other side and now it's swinging back again I can see it where it's like it's like getting more everyone's a lot more brash about like like you say if we talk about religion if we talk about like traditional values because people are also like fighting back it seems like this like uh i guess people would would reference this as woke and like how it's this way and you got to be accepting of everyone and now people are kind of like wait like because
Starting point is 00:10:35 we're dude what's happening is like there's a there is like a it seems like a battle between like identity not like gender identity just human identity and it's like people are fighting for this just like almost like identity list like we're all the same treat everyone the same and then there's people who are like, whoa, there, there are reasons why people have certain like roles that are people, things like that like, not that they need to be this way, but like we talk about traditionally like marriage or just in like relationships, people like live these certain things that are, it's not for everyone, but it to your point and the thing that I'm trying to say is I get the idea of people are trying to, and this is what
Starting point is 00:11:13 I just think is the problem. And even when I was in that space, I would always have conversations where I was like, listen, I don't agree with everyone, someone's, everything that someone's saying, but like I'm willing to listen and to talk about it. But at the end of the day, like I talked to you earlier about these content creators who are younger, my learning time, my timeline of which I understand things and which like because I can only speak and experience from from my own. And if I can't conversate with someone else and it's like about what they're going through without attacking them, then it's like, but that's wrong.
Starting point is 00:11:40 That's what's happening. Of course, that is what happening is what's happening. And it's like, and the like, let's be honest, the majority of the conversation is between the woke left and to be completely honestly, there's really no other way to describe them now, but that side than the woke right. And I'm talking about the fringes. Us, everybody else, we fall into the middle.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And that's really the most important lesson that everybody needs to keep in mind here. This conversation and this ongoing firestorm that seems to represent our nation as a whole right now is a blip. It's a blip. It seems to be growing larger, but at the end of the day, when I go outside, when I walk in this house, regardless of our feelings,
Starting point is 00:12:18 towards vaccines, towards Hillary Clayton, towards Epstein, whatever. I mean, I'm sure we all have the same feelings that Epstein. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But you know what I'm saying? On those type of things, yo, what's up? Brad, good to see you, bro. You know, excited to sit down. Do you have a conversation?
Starting point is 00:12:32 I love you. Say, I love you. To everybody I meet, I'm cool with everybody I f*** me. You know what I'm saying? That's the majority of the people. Unfortunately, the fringes on both sides have kind of spoiled the fun for, the metaphorical fun for everyone, right? And the thing that I think is happening is as that pendulum swings, the problem for the people that are, you know, defending that fringe right is they're going to now push it back.
Starting point is 00:13:02 You don't know this because it's such a long-term strategic swinging in that pendulum. Right. But with this now, you know, like this is without me saying good or bad on either side. Let's just have an unbiased conversation about it, right? a decade ago, gay rights, trans rights, abortion rights, all of these things picked up caught fire and we reached kind of peak liberalism and and wokeness in the United States of America. Call it over like the past 10 to 20 years, right? Right now at this current juncture, you know, in July of 2023, we're starting to really watch the pendulum start to swing
Starting point is 00:13:41 further back to that right side, right? Yeah. You know, rumble, kick, freedom of of speech, this pushback, this increased desire for traditionality, religion, so on and so and so forth. Once again, not saying either is right, wrong. To be completely honest with you, I'm in the middle. I really am somewhere in the middle. And some people will say that you're a loser for that. And that's where losing happens in the middle. I don't care. That's where I am. I feel a little bit of this, a little bit of that. I feel like that's where the majority of people live, right? Yeah. The issue is, is that generally speaking, each side is controlled by very, very smart intellectual free thinkers as that pendulum swings back initially right i'm going to come out
Starting point is 00:14:20 and say it you can say whatever you want about Andrew tate about a school of thought about a thought about anything if you can't look at that man and realize that he's a he's an intellectual and an intelligent and and and uh extremely well-spoken individual you're lying to yourself you can say you can you know what i'm saying it's this it's the same way you can look at obama and know that he's an intelligent orator, one of the greatest public speakers that we've had as president, right? There are just certain things that are just true about people. Yeah. The same ghost could be said about PBD about Patrick Bet David. I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. I think he's a very strong intellectual, free thinker and studied and debates well, so on and so forth, right? So what happens
Starting point is 00:15:05 is you have these people who run the flag for the opposing viewpoint, but what happens is their views then trickle down to a community of people who unfortunately aren't as bright as them those people are the ones that generally fuck it up right and so what will happen is the message that starts as a very pure message of of you know traditionality or religion or whatever which which i'm not going to say that you know either of them are always you know right in their viewpoints because i think everybody's right and wrong it then gets fucked up by the people who carry the torch after it's like a game of telephone a hundred percent that's exactly what it is it's a It's, it's, you know, great.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And also just different perspectives and like, where, like, where people want to interject themselves in ways to either go viral or this or that, right? I mean, it makes sense. Like, that's the world and that's the internet. Yeah. That's why it's tough. So, like, it's just, it's weird because, like, it's hard to say this is just entirely wrong or this is like, because, you know, everything we're speaking to is speaking to
Starting point is 00:16:03 the same idea, which is like they need to learn to get to that point to go, oh. Right. Right. that's why that's why it's such a tough conversation because like we also can't sit from our perspective and say these people are just fucking fucking things up because in like I doubt that there's these people I don't think they're just like genuinely being like oh I just want to cause problems I do though however and I've talked about this many times on on podcast with you know a lot of people that I'll conversate with who are like you know maybe more right or more left
Starting point is 00:16:32 and like I agree that everyone is doing the same thing and it's it kind of frustrates me a little bit. Even though I do the same shit, I make content, I earn money. Everyone's trying to make money. And that's the one thing. Like, I'm not saying don't make money, but a lot of times I think people do things like just to make money. And I'll give you an example. And I'm going to use myself. I asked Nate Diaz, could I beat him in a street fight? Do I really think I could beat Nate, excuse me, Nate, excuse me, Nate Diaz in a street fight? No, right? I don't, but I knew that. You did it for clicks. I did it. Same thing with Devin Haney. No, Devin Haney. I think I beat the shit out, Devin Haney. That one's different.
Starting point is 00:17:06 You're so much bigger than him, bro. Yeah, yeah. But also, but also he's, I mean, he's a trained, he's a trained fighter. Yeah, but it's like he's a boxer. You get him on his back. He weighs 150 pounds. Same could go for if he gets you with him, 100%.
Starting point is 00:17:17 100%. Like, he could just crack me, but also, like, historically, we're talking about him as a boxer. I know enough that he doesn't have crazy knockout power, doesn't have crazy knockouts. That's not how he wins. So he'd have to really clock me, which he could. What about, what about, like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:17:32 Logan Paul? Yeah, I knew where you're going with that. This one. That's interesting. Are we gonna, I feel like we're gonna, we're gonna lose the other topic, which, which is fine.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I love the other topic. No, no, no, it, no, cause we will, we will get back to it. And honestly, like, I don't wanna overpower your people with any of this shit. It's, it's so dramatic and like, political. Let's wrap it up. Let's wrap the topic up.
Starting point is 00:17:53 The problem is, though, dude, there's like, for us to sit here because we've learned and we know at this point in our life certain things and obviously so much more to learn. It's tough to go like, these people are just wrong, though. You know, because like I was, fucking 20 years old and I was wrong about fucking everything. Correct. No, but correct. That's what I'm trying to say. You mean because now they have platforms and they're reaching all these
Starting point is 00:18:15 people and then they're giving this information that's wrong. But like I said, in their situation, it's not. And then maybe to their followers that are at the same age, it's not. Even though it kind of could be a little toxic. The idea of subjective accuracy is troubling. It's like it's like we've gotten to a point where the idea of being right. or wrong doesn't exist anymore but this that's a major issue do you know what i'm saying and and and and and like obviously like dude there's also right now right and wrong are so ingrained in so many different verticals of thought right like for some people the idea of right right or wrong are decided for them at birth via religion they will never deviate from the moral code that is presented to them by way of
Starting point is 00:19:04 baptism, you know, however, I don't, I don't know what the connection process with Allah looks like or, or, you know, in the Jewish religion, but like that, that, uh, sets their morality for the rest of their life and that's what wrong or right is. Other people learn right or wrong by way, by way of, you know, abuse, trauma, drug addiction, you know, parental divorce, like whatever the reasons are. So, so to simply say, you know, right or wrong, everybody has a little bit of a different a differentiator or differential on or feels different about what right or wrong is and that's that's what makes the world a good and and a scary place and and to make matters even more complicated because of social media now because of the way we're interacting with other
Starting point is 00:19:44 countries and other cultures religions are starting to mix and you're honestly starting to see you're honestly starting to see a ton of online religious battle which is insane I mean you're seeing like a good amount of of anti-semitism you're seeing you know recently which which I hate to see I I hate the idea of anybody talking shit or being mean to anybody about the religion. It's a very personal belief and crusade that, oh, I already know why you're shaking your fucking head on that. Yeah, yeah. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:20:14 The Logan Pulpian. I'm, I can talk about whatever, bro. No, I won't do that. No, no, no. I'm more than happy to talk about it, dude. I, I, I, that, listen. That was a, that was a shit moment. It was a, it was a, it was, but, but, but I'm going to, I'm going to say this.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I was going to say. If someone's going to say I'm getting lame, they're going to, they can get flame because I never flamed anyone for anything. I don't think there was anybody that was involved with that moment that, that feels good about that show. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I really don't.
Starting point is 00:20:43 And honestly, just, I didn't mean to do that to you. No, no, no. Today is not honestly the best day, but I want to talk about the stuff because I'm here. I, today's been fucking wild and I've been mentally all over the place, but I'm here. I'm sitting on this couch. We're going to talk about this a little bit. there's been a lot of drama bro yeah with the show well i honestly just really wanted to ask you like the main besides the fact of the conversation i wanted to ask you to the best of your ability
Starting point is 00:21:11 what can you speak about george like why is you off the show i don't so okay so here's the thing obviously like everybody has been kind of tight-lipped about it right about the situation and there's you know various factors as to why that's the case the situation has been particularly tough for me because I really am a third party in the situation. I am I am a founder, yes, but at the end of the day, really a co-host on the show. I definitely have, you know, contribution and decision-making power. But at the end of the day, it's not my name on the wall. It's not my show.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Okay. So, so to, so from a decision-making standpoint or ability to speak on complex topics, like this, I prefer not to. The one thing I will say is this. Before you say this, if it was your choice, would you have kept George on the show based on what you just said? There's no way for me to answer that without it causing a massive problem. Sorry, sorry. No, no, no, no. I have to ask these questions. I'm not, listen, listen, I have no problem with the questions. I just ask everyone to understand that my ability to answer or not answer is complex. That's all. The one thing that I will say is this. I always, always, and I can say this, there's a lot of things where I'm,
Starting point is 00:22:35 I feel broken on in my life because I've done some things right, something's wrong, I regret certain things. I can say this with my chest out. I was always good to George. If you watch back any episode of that show, I always, if a guest was going on too hard on him, whether it was Bobby Lee, whether it was Logan himself, no matter what happened, I always had George's back. If he had an issue with a flight, if he had an issue with a hotel, he called me first. And I always took care of the problem. I was, I was always good to him on the show. And so he, he had a appearance on, uh, uh, Holly Mandel's, uh, podcast, you know, a couple weeks ago. And, and, and I didn't like the idea of just always being grouped in of it being like they,
Starting point is 00:23:23 they, they, they, because his relationship with Logan from a business and, and, and, and, I didn't like, and friendship standpoint is very different than mine in his relationship. And I still, yes, and I still, and I still respect and love George very much. He's an incredible person. He's incredibly,
Starting point is 00:23:40 um, grounded in his religious and, and, and, and, and, and, he's,
Starting point is 00:23:46 he's, a loving kid, a lovable kid and, and, and, and, and, and I miss him. I do.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I really do. I can say that without a shadow of a doubt. And I, and I, and, and, the one thing I will say is that the the idea of working alongside friends in the space is very fucking hard and very tough and and and you know it's just a really tough it's just a really
Starting point is 00:24:17 tough topic and honestly like we we you know purposely haven't said a lot about it right But Because it's Lawsuit shit or what? What's that? Is it lawsuit shit? No. No, it's just, it's just
Starting point is 00:24:30 Just the respect or what? Yeah, it's just a I just don't, I just, I think there's a lot of, I think there's just like a lot of feeling and a lot of love and a lot of just kind of upsetness across the board on how things played out. Yeah. And,
Starting point is 00:24:55 and the idea that, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's something where any of the parties can simply point the finger and say,
Starting point is 00:25:05 your fault, your fault is just not the case. You know what I'm saying? It just was, it just was a complex, uh, complex situation and, um,
Starting point is 00:25:15 you know, I mean, you just, you just, you just, you just, you just, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:19 that's, that's really what it is. But, but, you know, I, I mean, I mean,
Starting point is 00:25:22 unless like I don't I don't think that there's a tremendous amount of like bad blood or anything like that I think I also think like I also think that he's he got quite excited and fired up about his own show for sure and to be honest like rightfully so like I'm I'm I there's been a lot of reasons why I haven't started my show you know from from you know um issues that I deal with from a self work standpoint and and and and and and and You know, anxiety and so on and so. I always was. I do, I do this shit, bro. I do this shit the same way you do this shit. I'm born to talk, have conversations. Why don't you have your own show? It's complicated, bro.
Starting point is 00:26:04 It's complicated. It's the kind of shit I talk about in therapy. You know what I'm saying? Which I'm happy to talk about on the show. I've never been a complicated about it. It just seems like it's a contractual thing. It's not ever that easy, bro. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:18 We talk about the relationship between like someone. No, it's not even that, bro. It's it's I talked about this earlier on this episode as men. We are our biggest battles with ourselves. Yeah. Our biggest biggest battles with ourselves are our ability to succeed or fail in this world is based on how much we truly believe in our ability to succeed 100%. We were just talking about this where you got here. And and to be quite honest with you, I still even after four. 400, extremely, you know, fantastic episodes of, of, you know, one of the, one of the coolest shows where we've had the honor of sitting down with so many guests after hundreds of episodes of my own show, hundreds of millions of views, a best-selling book, kudos from other people in the industry that I respect and all of these things. I still have a lot to work on in myself in terms of how I look at myself and the confidence that I. have in myself and um you know there have been people have said bro like you're you're funny bro get on stage right a right a routine like what the fuck you do and go do stand up um i am a victim of self-limiting beliefs i always have been it is one of the relationships is it related to being like perfectionism like having it just be right not deeper than that i i have i have a i have
Starting point is 00:27:47 always had a bit of an issue with myself like just mentally physically mentally mentally i i i mean bro it's like it's like dude like the whole world can the whole world can sing your praises and tell you that what you do is great and uh while you're a great orator you're great at speaking all of these things but until you truly believe that it's almost like remember the movie Inception where their fear was
Starting point is 00:28:22 that they would not be able to implant an idea into the target's mind because he needs to implant that idea in his own mind or it won't hold I feel like that with my own life sometimes
Starting point is 00:28:34 because I'm always I've been I probably have had more support from the industry than anyone I've ever seen every single person and I've never had somebody say no to me.
Starting point is 00:28:44 From streamers to porn stars to, you know, to podcast hosts, to business partners all over the world. I've been so blessed with my network, right? But until you truly believe in yourself, and by the way, to complicate things further, until you truly are at peace with yourself and are able to overcome the battles that weigh you down every single day, you'll never truly be free enough to succeed at its highest level. I'm very successful right now, extremely successful, and I can continue to succeed on this path. I know, I know I'm, you're going to tell me that I'm overcomplicating an issue. No, no. Not at all. That's not what I'm going to say at all. I'm really just curious
Starting point is 00:29:29 because like it's obviously a self-sabotage thing. And I wanted to talk to you about this, even before you started talking about this, one of the main topics that I like just, because I like randomly just think of shit as I'm coming into these conversations. I don't plan anything. That's why they're great. That's why they're great. I appreciate it. But it was in relationship to just the idea of succeeding and accomplishing things.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And how like specifically nowadays, because there's so much, so much stuff that like you, to stand out, you really have to kind of like be, I mean, it's weird. Like everyone can have a podcast, but everyone should have a podcast. I think you should have a podcast. but my question is like just in regards to like the male ideas around our self-worth and like because you mentioned it when we first started this conversation about how as a man you have to do all of this stuff in order to like have success in life and to sustain success in regards to that that idea in you why like genuinely just what do you think it has to do with like the past
Starting point is 00:30:33 because you went through something that was so difficult or because you feel like you're not going to be able to show up and sustain or is it because like you feel like you're you're not good enough for to have more success or your own independent success like what is it honestly honestly like something i i just recently in the past couple weeks uh went back to therapy i've been doing therapy yeah for the last few months amazing good as well as uh i started meditation big as well yeah so so those two things um at this point you have to know yeah what it is obviously you don't have to have a perfect picture. Well, I'll tell it to you like this.
Starting point is 00:31:17 In support of the traditionalists and the people that are pushing for that return of that traditionality, one of the things they're very good at, and I bet you, I bet you, Tate is incredible at it. And I know Patrick Bet David is incredible at it and some of these other people are great at it, is discipline. You can be, we always talk about these two things that are needed for success. And they're like, what's more important? Is it talent or hard work?
Starting point is 00:31:47 Right. And you can be very hardworking and very talented and still hit a ceiling for success. If you can't overlay a discipline mindset, yeah, mindset. And one of my major faults in life is I'm not very disciplined. I am I'm I'm I'm I like to believe that I'm talented speaker I like to believe I'm funny I like to believe that I have a lot of things going for me in that department I surely work That's all true right yeah I surely work but I've never been very disciplined and As a result I sometimes feel sealing in terms of success because you have to remember
Starting point is 00:32:28 Another one of the reasons I don't want to tear myself down too bad that I haven't done my own show yet is because I already have many verticals that are succeeding right i have a fantastic you know youtube channel a one of the you know biggest podcast in the world in terms of at least of notoriety and and and you know sentiment from the the mainstream community and and you know a book and now i have a burger brand 10 10 burger brand that i'm working out with you know people from all over the world um and so i have a lot of stuff going for me so one of the one of the biggest issues is that lack of discipline is it related to complacency it can be because like i'm already good One of the worst things that can happen in your life is that you get comfortable.
Starting point is 00:33:07 It really, it really fucking is, dude. It's, it's, uh, you know, I, I am very, I get a lot of smoke from, from Jeff and a lot of the other guys because I can just keep, bro, my, my brand deals are still massive. You know what I'm saying? Like, you get massive brand deals every week. I haven't, you know, shout out to my sales team. I haven't missed a brand deal in years. Like every time I put a video out, I'm getting a massive, you know, five, six. six figure chunk of money like it's not like so I can just keep doing that forever so yeah the
Starting point is 00:33:38 complacency is there yeah because it's like why am I going to go and reformat but without evolution we all die oh yeah we all fucking die and and and and to be completely honest with you here's the other thing I will say this it's going to happen this shit is fucking happening I have proposals like the show's going to happen the reason it hasn't happened already is because of of lack of discipline and lack of just of just yeah I mean a little bit of a lack of confidence and desire to go and start a new thing and that's and that's a that's a major pain point in in the life of a man you have to you really have to be willing to take that risk and to continue to evolve I think the same reason I don't I mean I don't know it's also very hot in here
Starting point is 00:34:22 you know that already we've already discussed yeah is it on has it been getting colder is it getting colder. Okay. So I'm, I'm just shot in the dark here, but I'm because I can relate to this in a lot of ways. I'm willing to bet this is maybe the same reason why and maybe you can shoot me down completely, but it's the same reason why you haven't settled down more in like your relationship aspect too. That's changing right now. Is it? Yeah. I, um, I, I, so I'm talking to someone right now. Uh, man, I wish I had like Jeff's a production because I would have played like a clapping. Yeah. Yeah, I'm, I'm talking to someone right now. Uh, she's private on Instagram. How many followers?
Starting point is 00:34:58 She has less than, she has like 2,000 followers. She doesn't give a shit. She had no idea who I was. I met her in Miami. She's incredible. I have, I have really over the past, you know, six to 12 months shifted my belief set on, I can't even believe I'm fucking using the statement right now,
Starting point is 00:35:18 but what a high value woman is. And so like I can't. And by the way, that's, that's not to say that, that, that, that. any of the people that I dated in the past or talked to in the past weren't of that essence. Everybody has their own characteristics that make them an incredible partner. And I am thankful for every partner that I've had. But I have really been looking at people recently and looking at relationships in terms of
Starting point is 00:35:46 how would this person be in a committed relationship where, say, there was a kid involved. You know what I'm saying? More long term. like I like I started talking this girl not and you know it's it's new you know I don't I don't want to make it sound like you know I'm in this like insane like crazy you know I'm not getting engaged anytime yeah but the idea that you're thinking about it this way is so cool man it definitely has evolved a lot and I have to pat myself on the back for that a little bit for finally growing up a little in that respect but um yeah just just the idea that that someone is looking out for your best interest uh is an incredible feeling in this world and I and I and I I I I I want to, you know, that has to be, that has to be the core tenet of a relationship. And I think we, I think we're, we're steering off course a little bit in how young men view relationships now too because of certain things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:43 You talk about as a society. Yeah. Yeah. Or, at least on Twitter. You know what I'm saying? Like, like Twitter and TikTok. Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:36:50 I think there's some, I think there's some skewed aspects of like what makes a woman a good woman. And like I still refuse to base a, you know, potential partners worth on their past. I'm still a little bit more forgiving because I, because I'll always have to be like that in my own because I need people to really understand my past. Yeah. And I don't, for whatever reason, I won't, I don't think I'll ever be able to align with this idea that a, what is it that they say a man. with a lot of partners as a master, but a women without, you know what I'm saying? The lock, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Like, I don't know if I don't, I'm, you know, people can believe whatever they want. I just, I don't know if I'll ever be able to believe that. Luckily in this circumstance, like I don't even have to think about that because she's very low key and she's getting her master's degree and, you know, she's, it's, it's, it's all. A master's degree in what? Uh, business, strategic business communications.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I can do some research. No, they, I've been posting her left and right. Oh, you've been on my. Oh, you've been on my. Oh, okay, so I've seen not to because she doesn't want, she has like 60, 60,000 follower requests on Instagram. And she's like, why do you tag me? I'm not accepting.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I don't want. Oh, okay. I know who it is. Oh, shit, okay. Yeah, so I've been, I've been hanging out with her a lot. And, and, and, um, that's, that slowed me down and, and honestly allowed me to, to refocus my energy on things that are much more important because, because I, I think, um, I think, I think, I think like that that whole going after girls is such a trap, bro.
Starting point is 00:38:26 It's such a waste of time. It's such a waste of fucking time. We talked about this. Yeah, this is, we talked about this before. So I'm glad you're bringing it up again. But it is the worst fucking thing for especially, especially younger men. Yeah. Because like we were talking earlier about the value of a man, the value of a man.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Like you have to. I was talking to my boy Jacob about it. You have to like make your worth. Like, and I'm not, I can't say, it can't say, and say, like women don't have to do anything obviously like depending on what they're doing like they would have to do a ton but nowadays do like a super attractive girl can just get on the internet pop on only fans and they got they got their bills paid but men do really have to put in effort energy to like build themselves into something not that this is not i'm not trying to weigh it against
Starting point is 00:39:04 women and what they need to do but like we were kind of just joking how like a girl could just like imagine imagine if you saw a piece of content of me where i walked straight and then i turned around and I smiled and it got a million views. No, bro, 100%. Like this is, you got to, no, 100% I agree with that. It's, it's, yo, ironically, yeah, ironically, okay, this is actually a really, this is actually a really funny topic that you bring up and, like, dude, it's, but imagine you, no, imagine you trying to grow, you like walk and you turn and you smile because
Starting point is 00:39:35 you got a nice butt and it's, they'd be like, they'd be like, this fucking loser. Okay, ready for this. Now I'm gonna, you're, you're right and and I, I have to say this dude, like this Pot has been fucking heavy, dude. And I apologize. I've been like a like in a heavy mind state today. That's good. And I wish I brought like a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:39:52 No, no. I love this. It's my favorite energy to you. But I want to say this. You're right. But now look at the strange converse to it. It's all it's almost like. It's almost like.
Starting point is 00:40:05 We have our lanes in our direction, right? Men can be podcast hosts. We could be creators. We could do this. We can do that. But we can't be hot, do a twist turn, poke our ass out, and get only fan subscribers, right? Yeah. Some guys can't.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Some guys can't. Some guys can't shout out Harry Jousie. You know what I'm saying? Like it couldn't be me, but shout out Jousie, right? But on the, on the converse side, you also have to look at how tough it is for them to come over to our side. Yeah. And to make an impact. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Probably honestly, to your point, it's probably a little bit, it might be a little bit easier for them now. like it's tough bro it's tough out here to it's not hot boy season like it's tough to be a hot boy these days yeah bro like it's it's fucking intense dude just imagine do you want to do that no no no not at all i'm just like just imagine here's a deal for us is different because we're here now right but imagine for like the 98% of men that they're like trying to grind to like to have that beautiful wife and that beautiful family and it's like that beautiful wife that they're going after is like i can just get only fans and make 10 20 30 30 K a month and this guy's like I'm trying to fucking make it it's very bro it's very rare and
Starting point is 00:41:20 and and like I hate to I hate to try to combat the entirety of this new community of creators that are trying to teach other men how to get women because because I'm sure you've seen it but that space is massive right now like here's how to be a high value man here's how to you know 10 top oh I've seen it I've seen no no but it It's an entire community on both TikTok and Twitter, right? Yeah. Of how to like do these things, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Like if there's a girl doing this and you need to do that, like that kind of shit. Do you not think that I could, could have gone into that space and done it better than any? Yeah. That's my world, bro. Yeah. That is my existence, dude. Like, like, like, let's not beat around the bush. Only fans, Instagramers, you know, lawyers, whatever, you know me.
Starting point is 00:42:13 You know, you know, that's my world. Women have been my world for a long time. Now, I've always been good in that place, in that space, right? The thing that I've recently realized is that's, that's not a boast. That's not a brag. That's not a good thing, dude. It's not, that's what I was just saying before I had to take a break is like, it's a time suck. It's, whether, whether or not you look at it as like a religious wrong or an,
Starting point is 00:42:43 you know an immoral situation it's just a time suck bro if you ask me right now or even your audience would you rather be the best player in the world or the best lover in the world what do you think they would say the best lover do well okay okay do you what do do i think they would say i that my answer is the best lover they might majority might say the best the best player i don't know and that's what i wanted to be you know what i'm saying that's what i wanted to be able to maybe because it made me feel cooler maybe because it made me feel more confident myself i wanted people to know that i i had that access you know what i'm saying and it wasn't until not too long ago that i realized that that's not it's not really a flex
Starting point is 00:43:34 well this is a more traditional thing this is what you're speaking to yes and i fully agree dude i think Once you find a person and obviously, you know, when you're 20, maybe you're not trying to find the person. You're a person. But I think when you find a person that's like you're a rock like and can like support you like you said earlier about the girl that you're talking about in like, and like on you guys support each other in all ways. Like you're going to transcend and move so much faster towards success in your life. Like that's a fact. Bro, you know when I realized it because because also like. Bro, it's it's this. This is this is this is a known thing. So I don't even know if I have to say this, but like generally, speaking the insides don't match the outsides you know what I'm saying so you see these you see these women and like just the idea like I saw a tweet yesterday that was viral like is this the ideal
Starting point is 00:44:20 woman and it was just this like thick chick I saw you coming down the street I saw you coming on and all the comments under it were like you know I you know like child bearing hips like that's a high value woman right there homie she didn't say anything she didn't even she just walked down the So as smart as we feel like, no, but that's what I'm saying, but, bro, but, but, but, but like, I know like is, is, and to some of them, if you, if you said, she's got a body count of zero and her only goal in life is to have children, that would be enough for those people as well to say that's a high value woman right there. I want to be with her, right? And my retort, my response was, is she a good person? Is she a good partner? Fun to hang out with. Is she fun to hang out with? Bro, I read
Starting point is 00:45:05 Listen to me. And then Hassan said you're woke, brother. Dude, shout out Hassan. No, he always messes around. He actually, I was texting Hassan before this show. I love that guy, bro. I really do. I just wanted to be known right now.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I love people on all sides of the spectrum. I like people for what I feel them to be as people. I honestly, I really mean this. I love people on the fringe right, woke left, middle, all over the place. Me too, because, like, I've had conversation where people will tell me, oh man this person this and they're like really you like i'm like but have you like these people argue about stuff all the time on the internet and i'm like but have you actually met them that's that's the biggest that's the biggest thing because because another fear that i have and i know this
Starting point is 00:45:47 is the case i know this is the case is that i feel misrepresented by myself sometimes yeah like i really do and that that sucks that is a thing for you on the internet it really is unfortunately like like there's there's there's there's like this feelings or thoughts by by by at least a, a pretty large group of people about how I am as a person, the type of girls I roll with, what I do behind the scenes, Logan's right hand man, this, that, the third, and the other, right? But like, you, you know, you know the real deal because you're with me, we don't really get a chance to speak about it, you know what I'm saying, but like, like, the truth of
Starting point is 00:46:24 the matter is like, I, you know, I see Logan once a month, you know what I'm saying? I talk to him three times a month, like that, that's, that, our relationship is, he's, He's got a lot of stuff going on. Like that part of my life is very different now. I'm talking to one girl now who is, you know, a very incredible person. Like there's a lot of things. I feel like what you do in this world, what I say, what you do in this world echoes into eternity, like I feel like the most thing that I'm known for and the things that I've
Starting point is 00:46:53 gotten the most views for or the misconceptions about me ring the loudest. Always. And unfortunately, like there's been, you know, some misrepresentation and misconception of the person that I am or continue to be. But anyways, what I was, what I was going to on that, on that point of that woman is like, bro, you can't base a woman's value as a partner on how many kids she's able to pop out and if she's a good cook. You can do that if you, like, if you never want to, like, I don't, you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Do you want to know what you have when you find a wife? A partner that you can hang out with, watch movies with. with play mini golf with laugh all the time over the dumbest things which means she has to have a sense of humor which means she has to be able to hold a conversation which means she has to have similar taste and interests as you yeah this whole new idea that you can just find a vessel for your children and fucking is that a thing you did a hundred percent one of my other problems is I I seem to channel the worst niche of communities because it's a it's a small niche but it's definitely a
Starting point is 00:47:58 conversation it's it's it's I have become so obsessed with like kind of viewing this like whole high value man high value woman it keeps coming it keeps coming yeah on twitter yeah twitter's a cesspool bro yeah i noticed that too the more i more i watch certain things certain side i get it's recurgitated but so you so you're so you're saying you're saying that people are saying that like that's the worth of a woman is if she cooks cleans i listen that's super important to me it's such a it's such a niche i don't want to i don't want to like represent it like that's what the internet thinks but it's like it's this it's this new kind of like blossoming thing that's going on you know those things are important
Starting point is 00:48:35 for sure they are right but you're right absolutely it's like yeah can you spend time with someone are they cool do you have a good time is the most important thing 100% but like it's got to be your friend right so the question to to to tie this back to what we were talking about earlier about like the 20 year olds talking about blah blah you see the funny thing now is like you also right now you get it and right now you're moving to this new phase in your life for you like you want something of way more substantial value, which is why you're working on that. But your whole 20s, early 30s, you were completely different. You were the player guy.
Starting point is 00:49:07 You were the guy that was like, I also don't, right now in this position, say, this is not the best thing to be and the best thing to shoot for. Aren't we all learning? Aren't we all evolving? You know, I'm just making that known. No, no, no, no. I know that. But aren't we all in different stages in our life?
Starting point is 00:49:26 the issue is the issue i brought up earlier is not being in a state of your life that's fine i'm not telling 20 year olds out there that they're too young to learn yeah that's what you should be doing that's what i did my entire late teens and early 20s and continue to do to today is learn that's it right is learn pick up a gem pick up a gem pick up a gem through living this fucked up roller coaster that we call life i know right yeah The issue is not that. Yeah. The issue is trying to tell other people.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Yeah. How they should be living their life. Absolutely. Based on what you've heard trickled down from someone who has or hasn't lived their own. You know what I'm saying? Like there's just been a, there's been this like massive like advent of preacherism on social media. And honestly, it's been existing for a long. Do I want to know what I preach about?
Starting point is 00:50:21 Don't this. First of all, I don't preach. I don't preach. I simply I simply show there's a whole there's a big thing called show don't tell show through actions but podcasting has gotten so big there's a lot of telling that goes on right there's a lot of just like speaking dude when I when I when I come here and tell you yo I still struggle a lot with my anxiety like really badly bro and obsessive thoughts and and try unpack traumas from the past but I show up no matter what and I come through and I and I do the best I can that's me showing 20, 30,
Starting point is 00:51:03 however many millions of people that they can do it too. Yeah, because it's real. It's real. It's happening. They know this is the case. They've seen me walk off 100 podcasts because I, because I had a fucking panic attack. Yeah. And they see me show up day after day.
Starting point is 00:51:19 They see me put out shit fucking constantly. Yeah. That's showing. That's not preaching when I tell people. when I tell people that no matter how long you have spent living in your mom's basement filling your fucking veins with heroin or smoking crack or at the methadone clinic or or or addicted the pills that you can get out of that and become something with this life it's not because I'm preaching it's because I've fucking done it I did it myself so I'm showing them that it's
Starting point is 00:51:53 possible you know what i'm saying right that type of shit if i told them that in their 20 when i was in my 20s if i'd been putting that into the world before all that shit happened to me i would want people to be like yo shut the fuck up who the who are you talking to you don't have a the credibility to be making the statements that you're making right now i speak on things that i know through experience and that i've learned about through fucking decades of turmoil and hardship and surgeries and all of the things that I've been through in my life war right and and that has made me in some ways a warrior who then can give that shit back to the people that watch me yeah so it's hard for me so it's hard for me to see these these you know masses of 20 year olds and
Starting point is 00:52:44 18 year olds and 16 year olds watching these people who I know because I know them haven't been through shit. They've never been through anything. And they're talking about, oh, this woman's fat and she's a four whore, body count, low value man, pussy, loser, never going to make it in life. You're sitting there 22 years old, bro. You never been in ICU before. You never buried a fucking friend before. Who are you talking to? Who the fuck do you think you're talking to, bro? It's wild to me to see it. It's frustrating for me to see it. It's the same thing of like, you know, you, the self-help guru or the get rich guru who's not actually rich, but he's getting rich because he teaches people how to get rich.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Yeah. It's the same concept. But who are some of these people you're speaking to? Because regardless, you say their names are not like they're going to clip this and say that you were saying they're talking. I'll give a fuck. Yeah, I just clip. No, I'm just telling you.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I don't, bro, bro. Let me, let me put it like this. Whether or not people are getting more views than me or not in this moment. When I, when I, when I go to other countries, bro, I'm, I'm good everywhere. I'll go to, I'll go to, I'll go to, I'll go to, I'll go to, I'll go to, I'll go to their city. Yeah, me too. I'll go to their fucking city and make more noise on the street in one fucking day in
Starting point is 00:53:55 the Middle East than they fucking will. Okay, I don't need to say their names. When I say the names of people I don't fuck with, I lose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you feel me? I do. It's not because I can't debate them. It's not that because I can't defeat them or cook their asses and fucking in a conversation.
Starting point is 00:54:12 It's because if I argue with these motherfuckers, then I'm a fool too. Yeah. Do you understand? Jay Z. One said it. I hear it. A wise man told me. don't argue with fools because people from a distance can't tell who is who it's fucking
Starting point is 00:54:24 you see someone saying some dumb shit and I did it today I'm fired up today because I was on Twitter talking to some fucking idiot some fucking moron on fucking Twitter getting an argument why do you do that you messaging me like why are you doing why did you do that what's I need to not be on Twitter just don't I need to not be on Twitter you know how many times I tweeted some stuff and then I was like nah delete this like I didn't I got not deleted but I didn't I can't even post it. I get fired up. I know, but why do you send it?
Starting point is 00:54:51 Why do you send it? Because I'm an idiot. And I have a lack of discipline. Aren't you blue check now? So you get like, they get like 60 seconds to go undue. Bro. What are you doing? I always delete it.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I go, no, I'm not gonna pose. It's terrible. I'm heating up right now. Yeah? Let's go. I'm heating up right now. Go ahead, go ahead. Do it.
Starting point is 00:55:11 This is not impulsive. You could talk more here. Not 30 second bits here. LeBron James son. Okay, I have to talk about this. had a had cardiac rest today I feel like me and you can have a good conversation here yeah which which which which for this is a this is a heart attack heart attack yeah some some level of cardiac episode yeah um terrible terrible kid kid with all
Starting point is 00:55:36 of the potential in the world to be as you know potentially maybe as great as his father just a a you know family support community support uh incredible talent yeah um and and and a tragedy to have that happen. You know, you know, God bless him. This, that we're having,
Starting point is 00:55:53 we're doing this podcast the day it happened. You know, I'm hoping he's, he's fine. I've talked to a couple people in the circle. It seems like he'll, he'll be okay. Within 10 minutes of news breaking,
Starting point is 00:56:04 you already know where I'm going with this. Yeah, I know exactly. It became a absolute anti-vax fire on Twitter. Yeah. Okay. Massive. Massive.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Um, uh, clearly 100% without shadow of a doubt, the vaccine caused this. Yeah. Okay. No, you know, of course the, once again, I will say this, the majority of people, y'all praying for him, hope he gets better. Yeah. Then of course, there's once again, Patrick Bet David. Let's have a conversation about it.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Let's. include it as a potential completely fine with that you want to you want to have a cause-based conversation about it did he drink a pre-workout that day did he not sleep the night before what of what of the hundred contributing factors who knows i don't hang out with them i don't fucking know okay but but but what i'm saying is which of the contributing factors uh was was the the cause of whatever happened. And by the way, what happened? Because keep in mind, this is before anyone even,
Starting point is 00:57:19 he had a cardiac episode. Was it myocarditis? Was it this? Was it that? No one knows. But that didn't stop this firestorm. No, it's not going to stop it. And I made a tweet that basically just said,
Starting point is 00:57:34 here's just a handful of the thousands and thousands of people who have had cardiac episodes as student athletes. I was going to troll you on that and say source was trust me, bro. I'm sorry, I never did it. I never did it, but I saw what you did. I mean, it would have sucked because I was in a mode. It was so funny. But the, you know, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:57:56 It's not a light moment. But what, but what, who knows what's, like I guess if you start to get into the who knows what source is trustworthy nowadays, Wikipedia does cite it's sources at the bottom of the page. If you want to, if you want a conflict or combat that or debate it, then that's fine. And everybody can debate sources. Sudden cardiac arrest has been the leading cause of death for student athletes for decades. Uh, it is, it is rare, uh, uncommon, but it does happen. Yeah. It does happen.
Starting point is 00:58:19 It really does happen. Uh, am I comfortable with PBD saying that we should be having a discussion around it? 1,000% let's talk about it. Let's look at, let's look at pre workouts. Let's look at exhaustion. Let's look at the Vax, right? Let's look at all of it. Why the fuck would we not?
Starting point is 00:58:38 We would be ignorant to not talk about it. We would be ignorant to not look at the data and to study it. But to make unsubstantiated, unbacked claims with certainty is dangerous. And I saw some of the motherfuckers who I will not name making those fucking statements. But you know why? It's disgusting. I automatically, I FaceTime, it's going to sound crazy, but I FaceTime dating Ross first. I talked to him.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I said, bro, what are your thoughts on this? He said, it's disgusting. It's disgusting. You want to know what he said? Get off Twitter. And see, here's an instance where a young man who's in his early 20s. He's telling me something that's right. He's 100% right.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Yeah. Because if I listened to him, I would have came into this podcast today, much more calm, much more relaxed, much less fired up, much less sweaty. You want to know what's going on, though? The reason why people are getting so fucking, like, fired up and they're just like, this is it, this is it, this is it. Because the whole other side has continued to refuse to look at it. Like they could, it's, so this is, I'm not, I'm not justifying it. I'm just going to speak to the other point here, which is because the other side and the mainstream has been so like, oh, let's not talk about that.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Let's censor that. You can't talk about this on a podcast. You won't give views here. You're going to get age restricted. Because it's been so censored, this, that other side, voice is getting louder and louder and louder and every second they can go, this is what it is. It's getting bigger and bigger and bigger because the other side still has never addressed the fact that this could, in these late deaths could be somewhat related to things.
Starting point is 01:00:04 So here's the issue. And I would like to leave this with, you know, even like honestly, H3B. pbd whoever the fuck wants to take it from a data standpoint i'm not your guy i don't have the data so so i don't want i don't care to argue it because let's look at it but no no but the the data the data does exist there they're 1,000% in studies but the problem is is like at the end of the day where we've gotten as a as a debating nation is if you don't like someone's victory and debate if you don't like someone's viewpoint on something you can simply, you can simply declass or unjustify or, or, D, take away the credibility from
Starting point is 01:00:52 their source. So, oh, I don't like your source. That kills the art. Like, that's where we're at. Unfortunately, the issue is now sources are on trust. If I provide a statement to you that myocarditis as a result of COVID is four times higher than myocarditis as a result of the vaccination, which is what the data has, has said. the response from anti-vax community would say who paid for the study now all of a sudden we've gotten ourselves into a into a into a into a you go to a giant circle or a giant circle it's a standstill right because it's like oh you know Pfizer paid for the study or the government paid for the study I don't trust those people so your data is useless right the fact of the matter
Starting point is 01:01:34 is and and by the way that data point on the converse side is not enough to say that the vaccine didn't cause an increase in myocarditis or heart disease either because simply saying that COVID was a higher producer of the increase doesn't doesn't dispel the idea that the vaccine that the vaccination also caused the increase yeah time I'm not why can do can you even run this no we can't but but but I just want to check the no no no no no no I want him to just edit in some over COVID vaccine because that stuff will fuck okay okay I don't keep talking about this stuff in the no he keeps talking about I I'm I'm very fair bradley I try to be very fair I'm I will not sit here right now and say with a absolute certainty that one thing did or did not contribute because I don't have that that that that that yeah I don't have any of that data do you understand what I'm saying course unfortunately everything has been weaponized that's the problem
Starting point is 01:02:32 that's the problem and and and and let me let me tack this on too because it like I don't once again we're going to steer down this this dark politics hole and I hate to do it. It's fun sometimes though. It is. Here's my highest level question. To the pundits to both Tucker Carlson, people from the left, people from the right. What's the end game? Money.
Starting point is 01:03:02 What is the end game of your views and clicks? What is the end game of your views and clicks? What is the end game of your views and clicks? What is the end game of your engagement on Twitter, on YouTube, on Rumble, on kick, wherever, money for yourself. Yeah. Until that end goal gets pickaxed, none of these motherfuckers are trustworthy. And honestly, and honestly, I'll say the same about myself. As long as the goal continues to be money, I just registered a domain last. for an organization to support substance abuse and mental illness last week a dot org 5013c
Starting point is 01:03:47 will be built in the next three months as soon as i can in my heart and in my mind know that some of this is going towards actually fucking helping yeah everything changes because until then all this riling up the base getting people pissed off is only for people to make themselves money It's self-serving, man. I know, trust me. And there's not a single, bro, all these people on both sides can claim they want to make the world a better place. They want to change the world for the kids. They want to bring back this, bring back that.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Why is your ass not in front of legislature? Why are you not at the fucking capital? Why are you not providing change.org petitions to be signed? Why are you not driving your constituents to call their senators? because the only thing you give a fuck about is ad rev sponsorships and subscriptions. That's it. And so until that changes,
Starting point is 01:04:47 this is all bullshit. I don't trust any of these motherfuckers on either side. Yeah, well, now it's just like we were talking earlier. I was talking about how people are leaving mainstream media going to individual people and the same thing just happening. It's just like people are creating their own like individual conglomerates
Starting point is 01:05:02 of like they're making money because they're production value. Which is why like to be honest, I've never actually genuinely got in this whole like I speak to a lot of both sides and I listen and I talk and I have a perspective and I have an opinion and someone probably think that I lean a little bit more right which is which is fair I people think I lean a little bit left but I completely honestly I don't but go on yeah I've always looked to you as as fair yeah sorry to interrupt you no go ahead the good thing about you love Logan I love them and we got to talk about that too I'm going to extend a little bit because because I want to I love being on the show and now I'm getting comfortable. You are self-made. You really can say that. There's not a lot of people that can really say that, bro. It's rare.
Starting point is 01:05:52 It really is rare because like even like bro, like Kanye West was put on by Jay Z, Rockefeller Records. They took his beats. They made him big. Drake was put on by Wayne. All of these of these greats, everybody was put on. everybody at the end of the day if people want to view you that way or view success that way are a result of someone else's success being put on being propelled even even if it comes down to just borrowing from someone else yeah you you are self-made and that's cool and I have a ton of respect for that right and the the best thing about that is you never have to get lumped in with someone else so that you're Your viewpoints are simply a representation of theirs, i.e., going back to the George conversation. My involvement in that situation is much different than everybody else's involvement in that
Starting point is 01:06:46 situation, but I always will be looked at as having the same viewpoints as the person that put me on. Right. Right. So it's harder for me, no matter what I say, to appear as a free thinker because of my alignment with other people. Yeah. That's the nature of the game.
Starting point is 01:07:03 That's just how the fucking cards, you know, split. I have a very, very different mindset on a lot of things than Logan does. But, but that's, that's just, that's just how the cards fall. And that's what I have to deal with, right? Yeah. But so I look at you and you get to, you get to say things and then people get to take them at face value for what you say, which I'm, which I'm, which I'm envious of. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:25 But you've always been, in my eyes, you've always been a pretty fair. Well, yeah, man, at the end of the day, like my, my goal is not like, yeah, I'm making money do this, but like I don't want to make money in a way where I feel like, bad about. I'm not trying to make money just because I know I could route people up here or there. I genuinely do care about people. And I want to ask you, and I'll ask you after I finish the sentiment is I've like never, I've never done anything just for money. Now at one point that I realized, oh, this is making me money. I can do more of it and like I can like expand what I'm doing and grow my business. Of course, absolutely because it's all the opportunity. But I've
Starting point is 01:07:55 never done anything just to be like I can get a check because I've been in situations like starting from the very beginning of my space in the fitness world. And I was a trainer and I was on Instagram before anyone was on Instagram there was no fitness influencers no one making money in the space Instagram wasn't even a thing and I was a trainer I get on Instagram I'm posting my client's progress and I start to go oh I have abs and I think I look good I'm taking selfies and I'm posting their progress and the next you know I started doing this thing called online coaching and I started making all this money and I was the first fucking fitness person I talked about this before 10,000 followers and people were I remember I go to venues like doing a fitness shows and they be like that's the
Starting point is 01:08:29 guy with 10,000 followers like that's how like oh gee I am. Like, imagine someone saw you in a room and like, you know, that guy's got 10,000 followers on Instagram. That's huge. So that's where I was. Yeah. Back in 2011. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:42 So I was that guy doing what I was just doing. Meaning like training clients posting the progress. At no point did I think I'm going to become a fucking millionaire and be on YouTube and all this shit. I literally barely watched YouTube at the time. I was just posting stuff. Next year, you know, I started doing online coaching and I did this one giveaway and then my shit blew. And I was like, holy shit, I'm making all this money. And all I was focused on was like, oh, well, I want to give good service to these people.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Then I start to get hit up by everyone in their mom who's now coming up. And they're like, yo, you make good money doing that. I want to do it. And it is always money driven. Yeah. It's like, so I never came from a place of, oh, I can just get money. And I think that's why I have most of my success. No, I mean, that's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:09:21 That's, I mean, bro, that's, that's the best way to be 100%. And also, too, it's weird because it's a little cash 22 because I also never had anyone to look out to to go, oh, I'm going to do what he's doing. And it's weird. because bro when I look at my life now it reminds me of growing up without a father and to a lot of people they go oh that's bad that sucks and that's terrible and it was in moments but there's also a part of it where it was like I had this ability to be free where like I didn't feel like there was never anyone being like yo bro do it this way this is the way to do it and okay so I do it so obviously
Starting point is 01:09:53 you got to make your own lane exactly so so I talk about that a lot when I talk about losing my father I've talked about this I guess actually not a lot but it's very important to say this now was I've had I sorry I talk about this a lot in relationship to like personal phone calls with my mom where she'll say like well wouldn't she want it to be different like what if your dad was here and how my life would not be what it is today if my dad was here if I grew up with a father if my father didn't take his life when I was six years old I would not have the same life I have today the worst thing that has ever happened to is probably the best thing that's ever happened yeah but it was all perspective a hundred percent I mean bro like
Starting point is 01:10:25 there are a lot of people out there who who when I tell my story they get teary-eyed you know what I'm saying when I talk about you know all the shit burying friends broken bones you know organs getting taken out overdoses all that shit that all of that shit is what made me all of that shit is what made me without all of that I couldn't I couldn't be who I am yeah you know what I'm saying notice how it's all about perspective though because something like that could happen to someone else right over there and they'll be feeling that from completely different way for sure same thing
Starting point is 01:11:02 I was just able to look at it like not so much in a moment, but I, because it's really in hindsight when I look back and I'm like, oh, it's because I didn't have anyone saying like this is the way to do it. So I was just like, I'm going to do what makes me happy or I'm going to go in the direction of what I think I really want to do. No one's giving me any direction. Even though a lot of people feel like they need it, there is freedom and there is like that like that not carefree, but just ability to create within not having some sort of direction. Well, so that's where I'm trying to get back to because my because my journey hasn't been as. Yeah, because I'll. I'll tell you straight up from the outside looking in and what I've looked, you know, that everyone sends you as like Logan's fucking, which, no, but that part, I mean, that part I never really got.
Starting point is 01:11:41 I, like, I got it, but like, bro, it's been, it's been years since, since I've lived with them.
Starting point is 01:11:46 It's been years since I put him in, you know, he'll, he's in two minutes of content once every six months. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:11:52 we have, we have impulsive together. That, that's great. Me and him started impulsive together. You know, I'm pretty sure everybody out there would say, like the reason the show works is because me and him are on it together like i don't know what it
Starting point is 01:12:03 it wasn't like he was a hundred episodes deep and said y'all i'm going to make you a career did you know what i'm saying like i kind of'm on a sidetrack here because we're just talking about the show working did you see uh the steiny clip with schultz and uh yeah of course we talked about it on this last on this last what did you think i didn't watch the full podcast i haven't seen the whole podcast either i've seen i've seen some clips of it it's it's the steamy situation is extremely odd to me I mean, it's just, it's, it's, it's wild, dude. Like, just, just, it would be easier for me to just simply ask you your thoughts on it. Because you're much, you're much, you're much closer to it than me.
Starting point is 01:12:42 I mean, listen, dude, like, I did say, I did say Andrew's energy seemed a little off on that show, but, but, I mean, Andrew, Andrew, Andrew went back, like, Andrew is potentially the funniest person on the, I guess Chappelle. Andrew's one of the funniest people on the planet. He's so smart. incredibly intelligent comedian he's he's he's he's incredibly and he's been he's been crushing for a long time bro like one one of the one of the one of the greatest ever come out of new york just an incredible incredible our day stand-up comedian creator right he came on our she's been on our show multiple times he's fucking hilarious he does great podcasts i don't know what happened on that show i think i think i because i watch shultz's show and he talked a little bit about it
Starting point is 01:13:22 not being like the most fostering environment and like well i wasn't there he he so you heard did you hear what i said about that no what did you say so you didn't even watch the impulse no no i just watched the beginning the reason okay so the reason why we started talking about you in the first place yeah was it honestly like we got Logan you know got into a little bit of this this um you know into a little bit of conversation around around you know full sand as a podcast uh what's he saying update me loves kyle great uh i please i can't misquote this bro because because the kid will flame me and flip out on me. You know,
Starting point is 01:14:00 you know, basically the sentiment of, you know, extremely great creator, uh, not an extremely great podcaster. Okay. Which by the way, which by the way,
Starting point is 01:14:14 some people agree with some people don't. But, but that's the sentiment. That's not a direct quote. If you want to watch the fucking clip, watch a clip, by this point a week later, it's already everywhere.
Starting point is 01:14:21 I promise you this. Yeah. It happened, right? I'll go watch it. And I simply said, listen, like maybe they were having a bad day,
Starting point is 01:14:27 but I, did say since day one to both Kyle to to to John Shehiti to everybody that Bradley needs to be on that podcast. I've told you that since the day that podcast started. I called you. I called them. I've told you that that podcast needs to include you. You're you're very similar to be. You're a navigator, a tone setter, a pace setter, a bank of wisdom of knowledge of varying topics. Your fantastic podcast hosts. Sounds like you need to make your own show. I want to interview Jake man fuck I also want to interview fucking Logan
Starting point is 01:15:01 I think it's like a geographic thing yeah it's like these motherfuckers are not never in L.A. though It's rare It's rare really rare Really rare Well they used to like be out here all the time They moved
Starting point is 01:15:12 Moved just me and you holding it down Jeff Wittick Damn I love Jeff I'm not to take a trip to Puerto Rico See what happens Can we use the really skinny gloves I mean if you did if you did MMA We used what eight pounds
Starting point is 01:15:24 Or less or whatever I think there are they six yeah it's less than that right or some shit wait did I say pounds ounces ounces ounces my bad I'm the last guy you want to have tactical fighting discussions with bro yeah I just think it's funny honestly I thought it was funny I was like the views are down maybe like it's a summertime thing I don't know no I wasn't because like why me because I will because I will say this he he he doesn't care about because bro I say I always say try to be like yo I'm gonna say some reckless shit that's why my show is interesting because because I'll I'll fire
Starting point is 01:15:56 off like I don't give a fuck and I do I do semi protect myself on that show just because it's not it's not gonna it's not gonna fly like it's like we you know which which also I don't mind because we do we get to have incredibly sick guess on that if I just started firing off like crazy shit like we might not get on but not late Kevin Hart's not going on the show if I start going nuts bro you know what I mean but you could just you can reel yourself in for certain conversations but no it's not that it's not that once you get marked as X Y and Z as a podcast there's no coming back from that what's xy and z whatever whatever whatever like our our show is always our show has always slightly curtailed or sorry has slightly skewed towards mainstream so we can
Starting point is 01:16:40 have schwarzenegger we can have Kevin Hart we can have uh you know all of these kind of like big major players if if we were if we were unhinged like we we wouldn't be how would you classify my show Do you want that answer? Yeah. Intellectual, intelligent. No, no, no. I mean, in regards to, like, could I have those guests or not have those guests based on X, Y, Z? Like, you just described.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Like, do you think I've, I've marked my show? Logan's a, no, Logan's a mainstream entity. He's a mainstream entity. Do you think, do you think I've marked this as non? No, no. I don't think that, I think that you, I think that Logan broke out of YouTube. and I think you and I are still I think you and I still exist in the social media realm I think he can go at I think he can have a PR agent from his agency go to a PR agency that represents a massive Aister and say Logan Paul you know multi-platform discipline superstar so not as the podcast but as Logan Paul right as like you see what I'm saying about the podcast and his extension of his brand of course and so if the podcast was a was a inflaming podcast for whatever reason I'm not saying that that's that you can't be that but if If it was, I don't believe that we'd be able to have the caliber of guests.
Starting point is 01:17:57 So that's the question. Do you think this podcast is inflaming as you would describe? No, but as a by, as a byrequisite, prerequisite of your ability to secure guests of that latitude, you would also need to be a breakout star. So it's, so you need to satisfy both. You, you, this, this show is by no means of a fringe podcast. You're not like, you have some questionable people, have had some questionable people. Yeah, I love it. But like, but like, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:18:23 I have fun. But of course, who gives a fuck? But what I'm saying is, I don't think that that would stop you. I just don't think like, it's the same as me. If I started a show, like I might have to have a real use case
Starting point is 01:18:36 to go after Robert Downey Jr. Or to go after other people in the addiction space. Like I'd probably have to have an agency really go and do it. A casting agent and have to go and do it. It's not easy to secure guests. Yeah, that's the full send. Full send crushed it. And that's a result of Johnny Shihadi.
Starting point is 01:18:51 You know what I'm saying? Johnny Shihadi is an incredible networker and connected individual, Johnny Sheedy, who will tell you that, you know, I was, you know, partially responsible in him seating into full send in the first place. Like I was there for those conversations saying Johnny Sheedy is a fucking networked individual who deserves to be a part of this. Yeah. He'll tell you that.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Kyle will tell you that. Yeah. For that reason. He's fucking, he's plugged in across the board. Yeah. I mean, Johnny Sheetty's friends with, with, you know, Johnny got him plugged in with Dana, who got him Trump, Musk, like, all of it. All of it.
Starting point is 01:19:22 That's all Johnny. You know what I'm saying? So, like, securing guests for this podcast. I sure it wasn't Bob Menry? What is there to say about that situation? I'm just sorry. Bro, I just thought it's funny. That's a joke, dog.
Starting point is 01:19:34 No, no, no, no. No, I don't know. I don't know. That's hilarious. Bro, what is going out about Bennery, dude? Right now, I'm not sure. God, I haven't seen anything lately. I've, I've, I just got to throw the jokes.
Starting point is 01:19:44 They're funny. I've messaged them. I've messaged them. Do you think there's something going on currently? I don't know. I think he's fine. He's good right this moment. I think he has moments.
Starting point is 01:19:51 We all have moments. I guess we don't I'll put them on our stories So You know what I'm saying I would I would Venture to say that that was one of the wildest Breakdowns that I've ever seen
Starting point is 01:20:05 From a creator In terms of At least from a platform Specific Instagram story perspective I don't know that I've ever seen anything like that In my six years in the space Fusitube Physically in person
Starting point is 01:20:19 But dude like That that men are you space I think it goes down in the books as one of the greatest moments. I didn't see it because I swear you called me. I'm calling people every day like, are you seeing this shit? Bro, I'm watching this shit. I can't believe what's going on. He goes,
Starting point is 01:20:36 you see any stories? I can't believe what I'm saying? I didn't see it. I was spellbound. I was spellbound. I was spellbound. I could not believe the things that I was seeing. What was he posting?
Starting point is 01:20:46 Just unhinged rants about, um, bro full timelines of the relationship like like from start to finish in one in one sitting i was just more so impressed with his memory i couldn't believe his name should be bob memory bob memory dude he bro he couldn't he couldn't stop he was just it was wild it was um so things all started it you know about three years ago when we first started dating and at the time we weren't in a committed relationship we were just seeing each other and you know fast forward to six months I'm like, bro, how does this dude remember all this shit, bro? He's like, and then she cheated on me three times.
Starting point is 01:21:29 We'll add a, um, you know, well, I had a California pizza kitchen in Fort Lauderdale, California. That was my favorite one when he said, Fort Lauderdale, California. I was like, that's not a place. That is not even a place, Bob. And I, bro, it's, let me take a break here. Wait, three times. It's not funny. No, it is not funny.
Starting point is 01:21:48 It's not funny. Yeah. It's not fucking funny. Sorry. But you had me laughing on that one, though. No, I was laughing. But here's why it's not funny. Here's why it's funny and not funny.
Starting point is 01:22:02 It is kind of fucked. Because, first of all, I reached out to him. I don't remember exactly what my messages were. But Bob knows he could reach out to me if he's got a problem. I've provided that every creator knows that. If a creator reaches out to me and says, y'all want, I need to talk to. I'm having it. I'm going through a rough time.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I will give you, you're the same way. I will go through my we how many times have we talked multiple times many times I call you and I'm like oh dude I need I need to talk to you about this yeah and we and we have yeah you've been solid as fuck okay for sure and and he he knows that that line is open but but the only reason why I'm laughing is because the way he presented it was that this this breakdown was getting him more views so it was almost like he knew what he was doing bro that That's fuck, that's, but I don't, but then like, but then he would wake up the next day and you would see all the stories deleted.
Starting point is 01:22:56 But he always does that. He always does that. Dude, that's classic bomb. I'm gonna say this. Girls are, girls are trouble. That's, girls are like, bro, I pray that no man gets to that point, but girls, bro, they could really fuck you up, bro. Yeah, that's a fact.
Starting point is 01:23:10 They could really fuck your life up, bro. That's one of my biggest fears. That's why I've been so like, oh. Yeah, like, guard it. It's the right one. It's the right one. I'm not sure maybe. Well, I've always been super guarded.
Starting point is 01:23:20 I've never bro I haven't been I haven't been fucked up since I was fucked up in my last relationship but that's just because there was a lot of factors it was never like a power struggle or like I want to talk to her but I can't I'm gonna show up at her house type shit yeah that never happened not not even one time like that relationship was was symbiotic we tried to make it work it didn't work maybe back in like 2012 I've been there before driving by the house you know like why you're not answering my calls we've all been yeah I've done it but bro it's it's wild to see it happen to a college you know, to a person that's in the same spaces
Starting point is 01:23:52 you want to see that happen. Live on the internet. Crazy, bro. I just wanted to, I just wanted, if I could have met him, I just want to shake him. Like,
Starting point is 01:23:59 stop. Like, just shake him and be like, bro, please, dude. Stop. I mean, but he's,
Starting point is 01:24:04 he's, he, that's him. Like, that's the thing that. That's why I was kind of funny just because that's the kind of person he is. Right.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Just like, that's the thing. Like, I'm definitely not trying to laugh at the guy or his struggles, but for sure, like, me knowing him,
Starting point is 01:24:17 how I know him, kind of like he knows it he's posting it you know it's like he's like obviously clearly he's posting it so he knows what it is i don't know why that one affected me so much i don't know you loved it though because i was calling you about something else you're like bro but have you seen this because i'll say this i felt like i was i felt like i was i felt like i was uh i felt like i was watching like a soap opera dude you know what i'm saying like bro bob mennery like produced like a real to me like a lot of people are like bro did you see what beast did for the blind people and like this and that i'm like uh you know what i'm saying like beast is held
Starting point is 01:24:50 more blind people. You know, like he's always Bees is a great philanthropist. Yeah. I've, but I've, he's lost the hook in me.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I, like, you know, I watched that, um, uh, what was the one where you got to, you got to beat all the other 100 people. Otherwise everybody gets killed from squid games.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Squid games. Yeah. Fantastic. The greatest of the generation. But, but if Beast had a breakdown with his girlfriend and went on a, uh, a unprovoked spree,
Starting point is 01:25:16 I would be tuning in. The whole world would be. And that's, and listen. That's why, that's why I have to be a little bit more, um, uh, patient with people who are sucked in to other dramas. Yeah. Because we, we, we're, as humans, we love to watch this shit, bro. Got you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:38 There's, there's, there's everybody loves to see somebody all fucked up, bro. Not, but not really. Like if, like if, like if he had hurt himself, I would cry. I'll cry. Yeah. Well, that's terrible. But terrible to me and you. There's a lot of people who on Twitter would say, where's the video?
Starting point is 01:25:53 Well, yeah, because people are just there. But that's what I'm saying. It's like there's like levels to it. Like I don't mind seeing somebody having a, wait, what are you doing here? Let go. Say it. No, bro. It's just like, okay.
Starting point is 01:26:06 You got to say it. You got to say it. Do you remember how like obsessed people were, were when Britney shaved her head? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, bro, if I have a mental breakdown because it could, that could happen any day. Like, I could have one right now. I think I am having one.
Starting point is 01:26:20 I almost Like Would be okay with people being like Yo that shit was fucking crazy Because it's not funny But it's almost like a natural reaction To laugh at something that's so shocking A friend of mine is driving a car
Starting point is 01:26:33 And for some reason His brake line Like coming toward the end Of the track goes out Yeah Break line go I'm talking about like his brakes stop working Yeah
Starting point is 01:26:45 He must have hit a corner going like 70 Right directly into a wall with a slight turn he was fine you better get to this punchline no no no no I'm gonna get there he was fine but listen listen this is what happened I this is because I'm so the uncomfortable like I don't know how to react to the situation yeah he cars boom boom crash he gets out I look at him he's like completely fine but he's like fuck and he's so mad and I could not do anything but turn around walk away and fucking laugh
Starting point is 01:27:17 I swear to God because I was so uncomfortable because bro it's not even like uncomfortable but when you grow up when you grow up like around hooligans bro like I'm sure bro I don't know exactly like bro I grew up around hooligans and and and you ask any recovered drug addict about this right I even do it myself I like to paint and and ice cube said this on our show always remember when he says said this he said this he made Friday because he was tired of movies always portraying the hood like boys in the hood like sad only gun down shootings all this Friday's such a good movie bro I hate to say this but the neighborhood crackhead which I was and so I can say this provides a lot of humor bro these motherfuckers are crazy bro I was one of them you know what I'm saying and and and yeah like like you don't want you don't you don't want to like joke about it but like but like bro god damn it's funny though man like my family my family i swear to god bro i drove my infinity g35 off a cliff high off zanix and crack i swear to you off a cliff i took out two telephone poles at guardrail
Starting point is 01:28:33 and about 100 trees oh what got out of kick the fucking door boom kick the door open the fucker smoke imagine you had that on cameras of blood all i mean bro pouring all over me what you had that on you don't have that on video though No one has no No no no That would be hilarious I mean it might be DOT Department of Transitation
Starting point is 01:28:51 I have I don't call him up But I was I was fucked up dude right Nobody got I was just me Single car accent
Starting point is 01:28:57 Right If you ask my family About that shit As unfunny as that is They would say This stupid motherfucker Right Like you know how I'm family
Starting point is 01:29:07 This stupid motherfucker Drove his car off a cliff Go ahead Mikey Tell the story Tell the story Mike You tell him about the time You know what I'm saying So it's like
Starting point is 01:29:16 It's like, and by the way, this is the humor that I, I would battle to save because, because, you know, there will be a bunch of people who, you know, will come out and be like, it's not funny. You can't laugh at something. I know you would never say that. But, but, but while I understand that sentiment, because it is a very serious topic, mental illness, substance abuse, drunk driving, all that shit's fucked up. Don't ever do that shit, right? If you could avoid it. No, we'll do avoid it. Don't get fucked up and drive, right?
Starting point is 01:29:47 Yeah. But for whatever reason, like, dude, we are, we are, humans are dark and we look at, we, we, we use humor to, to deal with things that we cannot deal with without humor. Yeah. Death. Yeah. Bro, can you imagine at some point, all of this shit is going to cease to exist for you? Oh, yeah. and for me and for you and everybody watching this yeah if i couldn't laugh at that shit bro
Starting point is 01:30:20 and look at all of this as a as a circus you miserable i would bro that's the scariest thing i've ever heard in my entire fucking like you're telling me i am going to be dead i'm not going to have i'm i am not going to be alive anymore all of this is going to end yeah sometimes i'll go to a wake and i'll i might laugh it's an uncontrolled I can't I can't help it bro got to do it you got to do it you know what I'm saying It's happened to me everybody here has gotten uncomfortable and laughed at shit because it's a natural Human reaction and even in this situation people are gonna say Mike's being a yes man because of Tokyo And what happened and he laughed and all this shit
Starting point is 01:31:01 But it's a natural fucking reaction. I'm telling you bro I laughed so hard that I cried that that story I'm telling I'm telling you I was one of the obviously I was like he good he was good but then once he was good oh i was fucking crying because he probably crashed in a wall i walked like a mile away laughing yeah and because he was so mad he was so fucking mad dude i was like oh my and his reaction i literally turned straight around and just walked for like a mile down this track and it was crying yeah so like so like top top honestly top top top five best laughs in my entire all it reminds me the kind of laugh when you're in high school and like you know you're supposed to be quiet and everyone's like and it you just can't stop yes and you just
Starting point is 01:31:41 Bro, if you look at any of the funniest moments for your life, they're never rooted in something like, I used to wait 300 pounds. Which is fucking crazy, by the way. 300 pounds when I got off dope and was on methadone and eating like a maniac and all this shit. I was overweight. I was a sad case, lost in life, didn't know what I was going to do. And I went to my family's house one day.
Starting point is 01:32:11 It was the middle of summer. My grandfather was there. He was in his 90s, had Parkinson's fucked up. My whole family was there. Both my sisters, my mom, everybody. My mom had cooked this beautiful dinner steak and potatoes. We would have it on Sundays all the time. And I think I'd really like kind of just got out of rehab.
Starting point is 01:32:29 And so people were like being a little bit like nicer to me and like trying to like coddle me a little bit to like make me feel better about the state that my life was in. Yeah. So I walked in the house I went and I I wanted to sit down in this chair And When I tell you this chair Broke like Lincoln logs The entire chair disintegrated under underneath me
Starting point is 01:32:56 And my fat ass Bro bro in a moment when people were like damn We feel so bad for him We gotta help him Do you know what they did Do you know what my Parkinson's grandfather It was like Dave Chappelle was performing at the house they're still laughing bro to this day you you your fat drug addicted ass fell
Starting point is 01:33:16 through the chair bro do you understand what i'm saying i love it it's like it's like it's like bro of course we're not supposed to be and and so that's the battle that we all need to face right now on the internet is like i'm glad you said it's funny yeah but when is it funny when is it too far and everybody's got a different stance on it. I don't know if there's fixing this, though, man, if I'm honest. Because like, if we talked earlier about like people doing it for money and like where, because you had to spend time to get to that pure intention of like, man, I'm going to have a, it sounds like a nonprofit.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to give back. Kindness. Mike's, it's called Mike's bikes. Yeah. Right now it's, I registered the, the URL.
Starting point is 01:34:01 So I'm going to give it back to one second. No, you're good. The aim is to, um, Put bikes, which back to my store really quickly, I was given a bike when I weighed 300 pounds. I hand me down bike. I started riding it, listening to Mac Miller, 2010 summer. It got me to my first 90 NA meetings. It got me the first job interviews that I ever had that brought me to this couch, literally, like through by way of, you know, journey.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Yeah. And it gave me a place to clear my mind and forget about the traumas of the past 10 years. and to spin my feet around a crank and feel the wind of my semi-existent hair and feel good about life. Yeah. And I, when I first started riding,
Starting point is 01:34:47 fuck, dude, I just keep going back to these tough topics today. I was having fun laughing. I befriended a kid named Mike from my hometown that I became extremely close friends with. He also struggled with addiction. We became like brothers. I mean, he was my right-hand man. Shoot each other up together.
Starting point is 01:35:04 No, no, no, we were both clean at this one. Okay, sorry. That's not funny. No, that's fine. It's fine. Like I said, dude, come on. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 01:35:12 We both fat together? Yeah, well, I was fat. Okay. So, but I, but I lost way. We came good friends and, um, we lost, we, we, we lost. Sorry. Dude, come on. Because now I have to deliver something that isn't fun.
Starting point is 01:35:27 I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead. And no, no, no, but it's, it sucks. But like, uh, we, we, we, when, we, when, we, when, we, when I, when, when, when, we, when, we, when, we, we, I moved to California. Oh, we lost touch with each other. And I got a call in early 2021 that he was in a motorcycle accident and died. And so it's it's another Mike aspect kind of tied back into it because he was,
Starting point is 01:35:52 his name was Mike as well. So, so anyways, sorry to get dark. I'm just trying to know, to deliver the story. So, which was a really tough time for me. And I have created this. organization in honor of him to deliver bikes to people in recovery that are showing signs of progress people that need transportation transportation is really hard for people in recovery because they don't
Starting point is 01:36:14 have money to get a car or have anyone get them around so yeah so I started this organization we're also going to be raising money for scholarships to send people to rehab that can't afford it and so yes that's happening right now where were you I'll go so sorry no I was saying how like you you got to that point like I said the hard thing is not everyone one's going to get to that point where they realize like, oh, wait, I really want to just do good in the world instead of like, because we're also all taught, got to get money, got to be successful, got to have this, got to have that. And like, especially in the younger ages now, it's like the younger demographic, they, they have to, right? Like, otherwise, we talked about the value and men and all this
Starting point is 01:36:49 kind of stuff, which is the most people leading this conversation in this direction. Yeah, they're, they're trying to create value within themselves in the world. So at the same time, it's like, they're really on this hustle and they see the internet as this opportunity, which it is a great opportunity but again it's like how to I think the thing that that don't because there's no fixing it but I guess the real thing is like how can you get the people who are like on the come up to look at it twofold and not just like money and like clout direction but like are you actually adding like good into the world and not just like creating conversation to create views and clicks for money right because it's like that's where it goes it gets like gets washing because
Starting point is 01:37:28 it took you time to go okay now I want to have a nonprofit and I'm going to add this sort of value into that that's going to help value to other people. None of, none of, uh, this comes back to a misinterpretation of me and a misconception of me as a person again, and I'll just speak on it. There are a lot of people out there right now posing as purpose-filled individuals who have, uh, a desire to impact and make purpose. I'm not saying all of them. Some of them are very, very true to their word and they're extremely aligned with their purpose.
Starting point is 01:38:09 You don't just one day wake up and decide that you want to be a philanthropic individual. It does happen because brands do it and creators who get big enough to have to do cause-based marketing, do it. I'm not going to speak for why Beast does philanthropy. I think Beast is a great person and it doesn't fucking matter why he does it because he helps a ton of people. I don't give a shit if he's doing it to get views. I don't give a shit why he's doing it. He's doing good in the world and that's fine. So that's not the issue.
Starting point is 01:38:36 The issue is for the majority of people, you will not start to make impact until you find out why you want to make impact. Yeah. When I got to this city, when I got into this space, my impact had been predestined and determined for me a decade earlier. I get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Right? So there was. never like a there was never like a thought in my fucking mind of what needs to be done here which makes my life easier i i actually i actually feel bad in a lot of ways for people who want to do good but don't have a burning passion i if i know that someone is struggling and i i i there you can attest to this just as proof and this is one of my honestly it could even sometimes be a downfall for me this It gets dropped, the camera gets dropped, the meetings get dropped, everything gets dropped
Starting point is 01:39:34 until I feel like I've adequately helped that person in need. That is not something that can be taught. And by the way, I'm not even saying that it should be. I'm not saying that if we had six, seven billion empathetic individuals on this planet, we wouldn't have any progress probably. We probably wouldn't be competing and building cities and shit. I think, but that is my purpose. My purpose is to help people.
Starting point is 01:40:03 I was put here, the reason why God, the God that so many people are convinced that I don't believe in because of podcast episodes that have happened or how I've lived my life or the mistakes that I've made, the God that I believe in and pray to every single day has kept me around through countless things that have killed every single other person that has touched them for a reason to do something, to make some sort of impact on this planet. I'm positive of that. I've already started. The book has sold 400,000 copies.
Starting point is 01:40:47 I've had more people reach out to me and DM me and say, bro, like, this is, this is, this book has been read by seven people. people in my family. This book was then donated to our local shelter so that more people could read it. You are saving lives. You are doing God's work every single day. But that's not enough. It's not enough. That's why the organ is started. But that is my purpose. And yes, I've misrepresented myself. I've fucked myself up. I've done a bunch of shit for views for clout, for relevancy, for money, for whatever the fuck you want to say. All within completely, to be honest with you, I don't morally regret any of it. I, I don't, I don't morally regret any of it.
Starting point is 01:41:24 I have never fucked anyone over in my entire career. I've never done anything that made someone lose money. I've never done anything that I feel sketchy about. I've never scammed a single person in my life. But was some of it misaligned with my direct impact goals? Sure. Now, here's the question. Did that misalignment cause more general awareness to make me a bigger umbrella
Starting point is 01:41:54 so that when I start to work on my impact-driven stuff, I have a bigger audience. Yeah, well, I mean, that's a shit. You're talking about the things that you kind of did that maybe you're not necessarily should. I have 2.7 million subscribers on YouTube, two million of which because I've dated one of the biggest porn stars in the world.
Starting point is 01:42:10 I won't, I won't deny that. Of course, I put the work and I created the videos. I'm the reason why I have them. But yes, of course, I was creating content with a fucking rocket fuel next to me. As the Nelke Boys would say, click me, right? Goodbye, click me. She was fucking top tier.
Starting point is 01:42:28 There was never anyone like that. I don't think in sense. There has never been anyone like that, bro. Yeah. Like as a as a collaborator. Insane. There has net, bro, bro, bro. I don't care if I don't care if you're one of the sidemen.
Starting point is 01:42:41 I don't care if you're 2017 Logan Paul's collaborators. No one has ever had a plug in that was that. Why do you think it was just because of where she came from in the in the like the. It was a time when this was pre-Skybree. This was pre, you know, the addition of those type of women into content. I mean, Adam was doing it, but in a small way. I mean, it was the first time an adult star of that magnitude was introduced to a specific demographic. Specific demographic.
Starting point is 01:43:16 And by the way, like back to the point about like, you know, why and all that stuff. I was never, I never posted it in all. only fans link. I never posted a day said go check her out on the other channels. I never there was never super explicit sexual content. My goal was always to she became a a character in the vlog. Yeah. So, so do I feel, you know, like do I sometimes feel semi- irresponsible for, you know, mainstreaming that type of behavior? I don't fucking know. Like I'll have that conversation with myself, you know, as I continue to age. right but but by no means was I telling people to go jerk off I actually in fact
Starting point is 01:43:58 since day one told people that it is the worst industry on the planet I've said that since day one it's a disgusting horrific place I don't matter I say I don't masturbating I don't watch porn and you're watching my videos do you do porn I've been I've been stopping I've been talking about not jacking off for like the last fucking I know and by and by the way there's a lot of I mean there's a lot of good shit coming out of that traditionality mindset I think I think honestly and now what but now what it's kind of a cheat code when you're i mean when oh i'm fucking all the time you know what i'm saying so it's kind of like i like i don't have to jerk off so like i'm i'm
Starting point is 01:44:36 like i'm envious of the um i'm not really envious because this part i don't get what is it like the um semen retention community i don't know if that's safe bro i'm going to be honest with you like i don't know if that's safe it could be have you ever tried some of those dudes like i see sometimes there's a vein in their forehead to get starts protruding yeah and I feel like they're like I feel like you want to talk about data let's track the aneurysm rate in the semen retention I don't know man I don't know I think it's good I think it's good have you ever try like because I did this for a while I remember I was I was fucking and I was just knock I would like stop before I came and just like okay so that's unhealthy that is unhealthy really what you just said
Starting point is 01:45:13 right there is disturbing really like I actually hope I did that I got my point in the conversation that no one's even watching I don't care I got my time up bro i'm telling you no no no no what you're talking about is a tactic for longer sex is 100% yeah i oh were you eventually nodding yeah well i i like he wasn't notting he's gonna say he was no no i wasn't for like i did it for like three weeks no no no i wanted to see how i could do us that's ridiculous that's in bro but my my time went so so yes okay so any so any adult film so i'm i'm i'm having no i'm happy to talk about tactics one of the reasons why i do well in that department is because i do know what i'm doing i'm
Starting point is 01:46:00 not going to lie okay i if i wanted to such a drastic pause if i wanted to go into that industry i could go into that industry tomorrow and i could be incredible at it i'm not going to lie yeah yeah yeah it's one of the reasons why i was able to i've been able to do the things i've been able to do as a tactic holding in your nut to produce longer sex is a you a you know a you a tried and true tactic of sex. Yeah, I crushed it. If you can stop yourself and, oh, my God. You know what?
Starting point is 01:46:30 Fuck it. I'm going to go ahead. Ready? Yeah, yeah. Come on. Okay. What the fuck? I feel like you're about to pull your dick out or something.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Dude. What the fuck are you doing? I will do that. No. No, we're good. I generally spend relationships change this a little bit. Once you're hooking up with the same person, you get lazy. But I generally spend about.
Starting point is 01:46:51 five to seven minutes every time I have sex in a four play position and that's generally some combination of tongue fingers whatever understanding the G spot and and or sorry understanding the clit and and getting into that zone just as a warm up and that also includes some level of like neck other areas all the good stuff yeah when it comes to a then there's always like this very this funny there's always this like very um uh process driven or like or like uh traditional head section which is like it's just kind of like unnecessary like bro i like head more than anything in the world it's actually my favorite thing like i'll so there are times when i'll just skip sex and just get to home right but like girls feel like it's almost
Starting point is 01:47:39 like a prerequisite every time you want to have sex like okay i'm just suck your dick for a little bit so you get through these like two little like pre pre game departments right now listen you get to a sex phase you know you get your eight to 10 minutes in whatever and you get to a point where you know you're at 90% 85 90% to climaxing you to the guy finish got it right to you finishing if you are not in a lazy relationship and you're not trying to finish you can play call duty or go to work or whatever and you're actually pledging the girl oh yeah right that is when you pull out and you go back to step one of the process now they're going to hate you they are going to fucking hate you right a little bit you're going to hear the same fucking thing every time
Starting point is 01:48:28 put it back in what the fuck you do and put it back in you have to as a man get past that you have to drown them out this is key you have to drown them out and and either move back down to a to a four play position they're probably going to hate it because at that point they're fired up from penetration standpoint they don't want you to be fucking around with the cliff at this point right because they're in it in the other way right right you got to get through that it's sometimes it takes a minute sometimes it takes a minute and a half to so you will go from 90 back town to about 50 you're not going to reset you're not going to reset it's not like you're going to go you're not going to go back in and just and be ready for another 12 minutes based on
Starting point is 01:49:09 that but you might go 90 to 50 so then when you go back in for another six minutes and you get to 90 again it's the same thing now you can repeat this thing as many times as you're allowed to by this horned up woman right right but yes that is the route to lasting longer yeah you have to get out of there prior but the issue is is like some dudes some dudes are watching this right now they're like dude like i come in two seconds like i know that i know there's a massive part because they're younger bro they're younger like my bro i'm 38 years old My dick is not super sensitive anymore. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:49:48 Like, not to mention, not to mention like I've been fucking for, I've been fucking for 22 years. Yeah. And I've had some wild. I never talk about any of the stories. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:00 I never do because they always, I always feel weird. I always feel like people are going to say humble yourself and stop bragging about this shit. But I have some of the most insane underwater public. Underwater sucks, bro. No, not sex. Like one girl holding another girl underwater.
Starting point is 01:50:14 Okay. It's suck of my day. Like weird shit. Like strange shit. Because I was in that adult community for so long. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So like I have stories, but but impulsive could never.
Starting point is 01:50:27 No, I used to talk about it more. They're just, they're just, they're not, I don't want them to sound like brags because it's not cool. I have a problem. I had, I've worked on it. I feel much better now. But you tell them the stories, but you tell them the stories. I don't want to misrepresent myself anymore and make people think that that's what I want
Starting point is 01:50:45 to promote as cool. It's not, it's not, it's not, I guess the same thing that you can have is a partner. Yeah. The coolest thing that you can have in this world is a partner. And that doesn't mean a vessel for your children that's gonna cook food for you. That mean, that's pretty lit though too.
Starting point is 01:51:01 No, yes, I mean, shit, if, if, if somebody says to you like, but only that. If somebody says to you, yo, you, you're, you're, you can only, if you can only choose your partner based on two things for the rest of your life, then yes, if you say, a vessel, a good vessel for my children and cooks good food, then I'm not mad at you.
Starting point is 01:51:19 But that's ridiculous to be a full inventory list of a potential partner for a lifelong. Of course. That's, is that his only list? Is that his only list? No, it's insane. That's you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:31 That's true. That's insane. No, no, no. I don't actually believe that. No, no, not you. I'm just saying like, that's crazy. Like, bro, you, bro, listen to me, dude. You got to go, yo, this girl.
Starting point is 01:51:45 this girl's gonna this girl's gonna be there for you when dude i know when your your favorite parent dies this girl is gonna be there for you when you lose your job this girl is gonna be there for you when all of your homies all of your brothers that you thought were your brothers fuck you over which it doesn't always happen but that girl is gonna be there for you all the time and and and if you find a partner that is able to support you that is able to stand up bro like I've been looking I've gotten so fine tuned with it in the way that I look like actions early on in relationships and I've had a couple great looks over the past couple over the past year plus great looks incredible girls this one this one went far above the threshold which is why I've started to
Starting point is 01:52:39 talk to her right really seriously I'm exclusive with her not talking to any other girls but I've picked up these little things I'll be at dinner big plate of savić will get put down in front of us first thing she does is grab the spoon and start putting food on my plate putting food on my plate
Starting point is 01:52:58 food servant no no no no see you stop bro I just said serve it okay ready for this ready for this how about this no but do I get that how about this I'll be at dinner with you know eight people
Starting point is 01:53:13 dudes and girls some people will like what i'm about to say some people won't right i'll start in a little argument right if if i even if if she even gets the notion that i'm getting pressed in the argument she's popping right in she's now now now of course you want to be careful with that because you don't know but if but when they show up and they show up right and then they show back and then they back off like bro she's like she's latina oh so she's latina oh she's latina So, so, so like, bro, I'll be, I'll be, I'll be, I'll be outside like a restaurant or something like, yo, like, what did I tell you, bro? I have a, I have a, um, reservation at 10 p.m. And he's like, you know, I'm not. I don't even have time to step back. Like, she's up, yo, like, and, and if he's, and if he's, and if he's Latino, they're talking in Spanish.
Starting point is 01:54:04 She's speak Spanish. Oh, 100% she speaks Spanish, bro. She's fucking Cuban. She's Cuban, bro. Jacob's Cuban. Yeah, she speaks Spanish. Dude, that's fire. And so she's, she's, she speaks Spanish. Dude, that's fire. And so she's out there and I have to tell her once to chill out in English and wants to chill out in Spanish. So it's good and bad. The Latinas are, they scare me a little bit.
Starting point is 01:54:20 Yeah. But as long like, but, but from a traditionality standpoint, they are still very traditional. They're raised by their mother to be, um, providers to be,
Starting point is 01:54:33 uh, cooking clean. Yes. Dude, I love it. See, we're on the same page. You and I'm hilarious.
Starting point is 01:54:39 She watches the same movies as me. She listens to the same movies as me. She listens to the same. time of music as I do. She appreciates the same time. I just trolling you. Buddy, you got me. The first thing I said was she gives me food.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Yeah. Fuck you. Dude, it's amazing. You're so right, bro. Fuck. Oh,
Starting point is 01:54:54 but it's nothing wrong with that. What do they say? The route to a heart is through a man's stomach. Yeah. It's a fact, dude. That's a literal fact. Like,
Starting point is 01:55:01 I'm not saying all these other things don't matter because they do fucking matter. Of course. Like that you can't spend your life with something that you can't have a good time with. That's insane. But honestly, she doesn't cook and clean.
Starting point is 01:55:09 It's like, get the fuck out i wake up oh my god no no no no wait i didn't send me i didn't say i wake up every day and all my clothes or i'll go take a shower all my clothes are folded and my beds made bro this shit's amazing i know i know oh my god and that was since day one oh my god that was since day one bro that's how i knew i was like bro okay she she asked me like because i've been talking her for a couple months now and she asked me like maybe like three weeks ago she was like like yo like can we talk about something like what are your intentions for this like um relationship and she was like you know are you because because because the good thing about
Starting point is 01:55:49 her too is like she's not she's not on the scene like you can't fuck with her bro you can't talk to her you can't deal she don't give a that's amazing she's off wow she got like I said 60,000 pending requests and she's not she doesn't care bro like her friends are like I've literally seen the conversations her friends are like what are you doing like you could literally become a creator overnight and she's like why would I want to be a career I'm I do business I'm getting a strategic business degree right wow dude but um fuck you find this girl randomly randomly and randomly that's insane because because listen I'm not gonna like she she she she she has a past she she if you think okay she had an instagram at one point already not I'm not even already but it but
Starting point is 01:56:31 the idea that there's these unicorns that exhibit every single optimal trait but also have never fucked anyone else in their life have never been to a nightclub good luck good luck best luck to honestly go spend the rest of your life looking for one of those unicorns to have your children great like like best of luck to you right so yo like did she have a phase I'm sure did she hook up sure like but but based on you know the first amount of time with her like I don't I'm I've never had to rush into relationship or even felt comfortable a relationship because I've never had to but this one I just feel like this is a good one bro she's a cool She fucks with everybody.
Starting point is 01:57:07 Everybody fucks with her. Like, I don't know. I don't want to. No, it's fine. Also, also, like, at what point I'm really curious, like, because we've had conversations on this spot before about this kind of stuff, when did this start to really change for you when you were like, okay, I really do. Like, when did you start actually looking for it?
Starting point is 01:57:22 Because obviously you can't find something you're not looking for. I wasn't looking for it. I really wasn't. I wasn't looking for it. You want to know what's funny? I actually met her at Story on the number. The Nelke boys did their Happy Dad thing with, uh, at Nell, uh, story. I was supposed to go to that.
Starting point is 01:57:43 I didn't go. So, so she does, she's, she's not a partier. She got, she was dragged out that night. I think she was rocking like vans. Like she just didn't want to be there. And I went into this, this green room and I saw this girl and I was like, dude, that girl is fucking beautiful. Like she's not like, she was, like, she was, she just was had a different vibe.
Starting point is 01:58:03 And I got was like, fired up and I started like, joking around making her laugh like just having like a good time and um she ended up we ended up going out we went to 11 and just like had a good time and just like we're hanging out of the group of people and she wanted she said she had to go home because she had to go to Easter church and I was like oh I was like this girl was like family she's like about it you know what I'm saying like it was obviously like she has fun because she was at 11 on Easter Eve with me so like she's very similar to me like she doesn't take it too seriously but she's also very grounded yeah so she's just a cool chick and then we just started hanging out
Starting point is 01:58:36 and she's I mean she's been moving around with me I mean she comes she I was just in Miami with her she flew out to LA she's come back to LA on Friday I've just been moving her around I'm happy for her man that sounds like really cool I just try not to get too ahead of things yeah I get you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:58:50 I'm taking it slow but she but I'll put it like this she's awesome yeah that's just like a simple savings she's just a great girl and and she's super cool besides that what has been the other biggest shift in your life lately I think at some point I just did have that realization that, I realized recently that I realized recently that I've started to feel differently about casual sex and it wasn't because of what anybody said to me.
Starting point is 01:59:22 I think I really started to notice how gross it is. And by the way, by the way, I've always known that. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's willing to accept that. Yeah. from yourself and actually just say no exactly right and by the way like as men who are driven to have sex like we're sexual beings a lot of times something that makes it easier to say no is having a home with a person that will say yes that you can say yes to yeah you know what I'm saying and so like it's almost like they they combat each other because you don't want to be alone so you're having casual sex but this casual sex is preventing you from having a person that you can be with right
Starting point is 02:00:06 man and and so it's like you're you're stuck in this cycle and I've been stuck in a cycle for a long time me too and it's an addiction it's an addiction and it's and it's and it's and it's I've I've been I've had very very wild escapades and I've noticed that after weekends of I mean I've had weekends where I've just looked back and and after three or four days in cities because I'm in different cities and countries and I've looked back and just looked at myself and been like yo you're you're disgusting You're not even like you should be ashamed of yourself for what you just did. And it was all, I mean, it was all fair and love and war. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:00:44 But it was, but it was it just, I would wake up with anxiety. It's not fulfilling. No, it's the opposite. Yeah. It's the opposite. And so I think a part of it was, was harnessing and, you know, saddling that beast to a point where it allowed me to open up to this idea. And I'm still, and I'm still, I'm still a work in progress with it.
Starting point is 02:01:04 I have really tough times. start i feel i i've talked to her about i'm very open about i have times where i feel very confined and she all girls love to cuddle i've felt sometimes i have trouble with that and like i just feel like like like almost like shut off sometimes and she's and so she'll just be like do i'm gonna you have a hard time cuddling yeah i love cuddling man it's like my shit it's like the best feelings um it's because you're close you don't want to be close i told her this bro i'm I'm gonna say this right now, dude. I'm gonna just,
Starting point is 02:01:37 you said unless you fucking cooking clean. Nah, no, no, I'm gonna just say something. Yeah. Because I'm leading with love nowadays. I wanna, quick shout out to Tate, bro. Okay. He did this Aiden Ross stream. Thought you hated Tate.
Starting point is 02:01:49 Not, no, I never, I know, I'm Troll. I never hated him. I never hated him. I never hated him. I disagreed with some of his approaches. He has been, he has been, since prison, humbled, it seems like,
Starting point is 02:02:03 and has been leading with love, regardless of what the conversation is about, talking to Adam 22 and Len on the plug about letting his wife fuck other men. Yeah. Leading with love. Hey, whatever you guys want to do in your relationship, that's for you, it's not for me.
Starting point is 02:02:18 He didn't even really want to talk about it. I know he felt uncomfortable. Yeah. I'll lead with love today as well. Yeah. You had a guest on by the name of Zirka recently. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:27 He and him had a little bit of an argument, a tussle on Aidan Ross's live stream a couple weeks ago. I don't deal well with conflict. I prefer to avoid it. My ego played up a little bit that day. And I said some stupid shit. That was just stupid. Now, I will say why I brought it up.
Starting point is 02:02:45 He, I saw a clip from him last week where he said, guys want two things like, like, I thought it was like sex and peace and quiet or something like that. I thought it was something like, Because, you know, he's, he's, he's, he's fucking insane. Like, like, and I don't mean that. Once again, I don't mean that in like a bad way, but he's, that dude's tapped, bro.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Like, he's actually tapped. Like, he's a lunatic, okay? And, which is very entertaining. And I think, I think he's got a, I think he's got some running room there. I haven't blocked on Twitter because I can't, I can't deal with it. It's almost like too much for me. But I think he's got running room because he is entertaining. Yes.
Starting point is 02:03:27 He said this clip guys want, uh, girls want, um, I thought it was sex and peace and quiet. And he said, as soon as a guy nuts, the last thing he wants to do is cuddle you. He said, go take a walk. Go take a walk. And as much as I was like wanting to disagree with him because of our argument, I was like, damn, he's so right. I was like, bro, he's so, at least for me. So what I told her last week was, if you want to cuddle me,
Starting point is 02:03:59 cuddle me before we fuck it was bro bro before we have sex bro i'm a cuddle machine dude i'm you know oh like lovey-dovey like kissing on you like why not after bro i don't know why but i just i just i just want a little space no it's not even to come to your senses because she's still just just she's still just this no she's still just as hot and she's still just as great But I just, I don't know. Like, I like, let's throw some funny shit out. Imagine like, you know how when you come when you jerk off,
Starting point is 02:04:39 you kind of like feel like, yeah, yeah, 100%. You know what I'm saying? You're like, ah, like,
Starting point is 02:04:44 oh shit. Yeah. Like, what if there's a little piece of that too when we also, when we fuck? Like just a tiny piece where you're just like, you know what I'm saying? Like,
Starting point is 02:04:53 I don't know. Maybe that's not right. But for some reason, okay, here's another reason. When I'm done, when I get done, having sex because like I said I'll like I'll throw down even at my old age I'm hot hot as
Starting point is 02:05:06 fuck is that what you're going to say 100% okay that's I get the blanket off me get your beautiful athletic uh twice a week at glute house leg off of me yeah yeah get it off of me yeah I'm burning to death yeah I envision like I'll tell her I envision this is what hell feels like it's hot I feel that so so so so I need about 15 minutes now if maybe I pop the blue chew in 15 minutes my dick might be hard again so now I'm ready to cuddle again you know what I'm saying like it's even 10 minutes actually shout out blue chew five minutes sometimes I'll come and my dick won't even go down I'm not even kidding bro I'm 38 I got one foot in the grave I'm still I'm a lunatic bro yeah I love it but it's all it's how many milligrams
Starting point is 02:05:48 I'm on peds I'm on performance and answers so I mean you know sometimes because she'll tell me sometimes you didn't take one today and so like sometimes we midday it's not always but it's like it's dope bro here's my question about it's like this i i have an 830 dinner i'm not i'm gonna be late to it it's with all right no no i'm not i'm not leaving because i'm having fun now and can i can i can i quickly give a quick statement yeah of course your audience yeah go i'm sorry a little bit about the beginning of the show because i don't warm up till about an hour and a half and that's what makes impulsive hard for me because it's an hour long yeah so so i'm i'm really warmed up right now super comfortable like i can do this for another four hours
Starting point is 02:06:27 on every topic under this I'm not saying we're gonna but it sucks because we tackled some really important shit at the beginning of the show today regarding you know vaccines and George and all this stuff and I and I wish I could talk about it now because I'm super comfortable um 30 milligrams so so you did 30 well 30 is so 50's an average dose of are we talking about Cialis or still down Cialis that's different those are different dosages that's how much Dallas you do. Seattleis would just be 10. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:06:59 okay. Yeah. Sildanifil or Viagra is different. Yeah. What is the difference between taking a pre-workout, performance enhancer before the gym, and taking a performance enhancer for the bedroom? Because here's the problem.
Starting point is 02:07:15 Very similar to Lance Armstrong. Your competitors are doing it. Your competitors are doing it, bro. You know what I'm saying? They're walking in there at 120% veins bulging, reload level at 150% They're nothing Dick is still a missile
Starting point is 02:07:30 They're ready to go again So you're walking in there saying I don't need it Because I'm at 90% Or I'm at 100% I'm all the man This girl needs You got to understand
Starting point is 02:07:40 You ain't going against other men You're going against bionically Enhanced super demons This is hilarious That have loaded themselves To the brim With performance enhancing P
Starting point is 02:07:53 Performance enhancing dick pills dead dips pedips bro okay and they're gonna destroy they're gonna destroy and conquer and so you bro more power to you I was I was good without it
Starting point is 02:08:07 shit I'm better with it but shit I'm better with it bro you don't want me you don't want me in this game bro you know what I'm saying I'm out of control you know what's funny too is like the you were saying
Starting point is 02:08:18 talking about the pre-workout actually the Cialis is actually a good pre-workout fucked apart there's actual health benefits of there are people that take cealis for heart health yeah low very low very low dose five milligram daily cealis for heart health yeah because it uh widens your vessels to allow for better blood flow crazy yeah it's amazing man that's an that's an that's an incredible drug been a great sponsor for me in bluechue yeah to this shout out a lot of a lot of fucking money yeah but i'm but i i do use it and i do believe in the product so it's
Starting point is 02:08:50 like it's like that's another that's just another testament to like my promotions Like, I don't, I, like, if you see me do a Draft Kings, you know, ad, it's because I use draft Kings, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't promote shit that I don't use. Yeah, you know. Have you ever voted anything you don't use? Um, yeah, I'm sure. I think, I think everybody has promoted something they don't you.
Starting point is 02:09:10 But I would never say that I use it. Does that make sense? Like, I would say X, Y, Z sponsor does X, Y, and Z. That's a promotion of the product. I just wouldn't, I just wouldn't, I just wouldn't promote it as a, as something I used. Are you ever going to just drop your own pot or you're just going to be a pussy forever? And also, you're just, Yeah, no, that's a very good, I mean, bro, that's a very good way of looking at it.
Starting point is 02:09:28 No, yeah, I am, dude. I, I don't know why I had so much trouble putting it into, into words before. I think I was, I think I was in a weird mental place before. I, I, I, it's not, it's not completely that I'm just not able to do it because of, because of belief in myself. I just, I just don't know that I've had that. Bro, these night shifts take a lot, bro. They're all over the world. Like, I travel.
Starting point is 02:09:49 So that's the question. Like, are you going to do that forever? I think I have to, I think I have to stop now. I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think I will have a podcast in the next, in the next three months. Oh, solid. Yeah. I'm coming on for sure.
Starting point is 02:10:00 100%. Yeah. That'd be great. Bro, it's, it's, I just need to figure out format, like what it's like, you know, because I want it to be a little bit different. I don't want it to be like, like, like, like, bro, I like, that's the thing. Like, we never really like, like, like, I love Jeff FM. That's one of my favorite shows to go on because it's so fucking weird, bro.
Starting point is 02:10:19 I will. I will, I will, I will give that to Jeff. That is one of the funest shows that I've ever been on. It's, like people like, you know, like, like, you know, like, like, like, Like, all of a sudden, Stephen, oh, you're pulling his dick out. Like, you're talking about serious topics. We can talk about the North Central East Island, which is my favorite topic. And I fucking love Jeff, man.
Starting point is 02:10:32 He's funny. Jeff is one of my favorite people in the world. I love him so much. Me and him have had such a blossoming friendship. We've been there for each other during tough times, during good times. We've gotten to collaborate a ton. He's, I would say he's probably my best friend right now. We talk every single day.
Starting point is 02:10:49 We face time every day. We hang out all the time. We're always, like, trying to help each other. in real life and in content that's and which is a little bit different because a lot of times it's one or the other we we always have each other's backs like bro that's that's like my that's like my like ride or die like dog right now like I love that kid he's he's been great we we we we tussle sometimes too but I think that's just so symbolic of like real friendship that's you have to have yeah like in all in all like really strong relationships I think you even even like with your
Starting point is 02:11:21 girl like you're not you're gonna fucking argue and be mad but like you do have to have some conflict this in general 100% can't always be fucking perfect it's not real yeah it's not real and it's also like how you built you like think how you built your life in direction that you've now grown from it and become you're better from it it's the same way in relationships like yeah if you can go through more things as a human with someone like then it's like yo you really have like built something together yeah so 100% yeah so podcasts i would say next next three months for sure um i also as i I keep mentioned, Patrick Bet, David, we've been in contact. I'd love to do his show soon.
Starting point is 02:11:53 Tate, I talked to with Aiden, I would, I would be happy to do a show with that. I was going to fly out. And anybody on both sides, I think I'm going to start a little bit of a podcast circuit again. That's why I came here, because I really want to make sure that I'm seeing other places and not getting siloed. And then, and then also, Tenten Burger is a really big thing for me. You know, we, we, you've seen other. people in the space do burgers I think I think Beast had some initial success just because of who he is and how big he is uh my products is incredible it but he was outsourcing it to just
Starting point is 02:12:28 he was doing ghost kitchens I will never see a ghost kitchen I might franchise I might I might do some licensing deals but but for the most part this will be a brick and mortar ground up company yeah yeah um with with ownership across across different um continents and and I've got backing from some some massive um could I open one yeah I mean they're expensive They're a lot. They're a lot. You can, you can certainly be involved in like the LA location, for example. But it's, it's, they're, I'm really excited about it.
Starting point is 02:12:57 Smash burgers are an anemic product globally. I go all over the world and try products, different burgers all over the world. There's, there's nothing like this product. L.A., it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a top burger in L.A., but you put it any, L.A. is the best burger market in the world in terms of street food burgers. But if I go to any other city, I'll win automatically. There's no competition. I went through massive development process with a really skilled burger chef.
Starting point is 02:13:23 We've got a great product, a great brand, great packaging. Across the board, great funding. And so right now it's pop-ups, but we're starting to raise money for the general pursuit. And, you know, I mean, we've got great partners. It's going to be awesome. I'm dead ass. I'd invest in that. You can.
Starting point is 02:13:39 August, August 11, 12, 13th, New Haven, Connecticut is the next pop-up. I'm bringing it home to CT-203. so you guys can come see me at me Jeff and Tanna if you care to see them as well at Via in New Haven from 12 to 6 every day for the 10-10 pop-up in New Haven, Connecticut I'll be posting about it on all my channels
Starting point is 02:14:02 as well if you want to come try the burger and you're a CT native or New York or Massachusetts whatever I'd love to see all my East Coast motherfuckers there and yeah that's it I appreciate you coming man I love you I could say it here forever I don't want to fuck your dude I don't know and it and dude how long like how long have we been going two hours longer
Starting point is 02:14:21 like we just always do that I just I just don't get warmed up for a little bit yeah it's it's I don't know how to get through I'm thinking maybe like when I start my show or or like whatever maybe I do like a half an hour with the rest of production and then or then or but not with the guest like or whatever just like bullshit for a little while because it takes me I think I what do you think so much drugs or something like that that it takes me a little while for my brain to remind itself like yo you're a brain like start making sense got it because if you look at me for the past like hour i've been flowing 100% you were not flown in the beginning no you were it was just a little more yes you were a little more like thoughtful before you answered yeah now it's like bang yeah
Starting point is 02:15:01 that's the best way i would describe it 100% it's a flow state yeah i i i would say that would be smart like 30 30 minutes like with the crew and then just run it like have the guests come in that's what i probably do but thanks for having me back of course man i love you i love coming on the show and your audience is always super cool and supportive of you know of everything so uh be back whenever you want appreciate you man and i'm on and i can't wait for your pod for real dude it's gonna be fun you need it it's gonna be fun yeah i'm i'll be on there subscribe to the channel notifications all that good shit yo next week jacob come here come come over here come over here i want motherfuckers to know who who fucks this up next week come here yeah come here oh you have
Starting point is 02:15:41 the questions okay every week Now listen, send your questions at Rott Talk at gmail.com. If you want your questions to answer by me and the guest, do you have questions over there, ready? No, we can't do that because we don't have any more time. Next week, the next guest you see, send the questions. The next person I interview will answer these questions with me. But how would they know what to ask? Like what guess it is.
Starting point is 02:16:03 It's really general. Oh, like, evergreen shit. Yeah. And it's pretty much like there's always really good questions. And to be honest, I'm sorry to you guys actually because I realized that was one of my favorite parts of it. And that's actually one of my favorite parts. Yeah. Fucked up.
Starting point is 02:16:16 And it was, I knew something was missing, bro. Yeah. And it would go and it would just fucking honestly get the best questions. Because people, once they've watched the pod for long enough, they kind of get the vibe of the things that we talk about or things that we've talked about. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:27 And they kind of interject questions that are similar. So I really love doing it. And also another thing, too, for you guys listening before I sign out completely, I'm going to work on uploading a second pod, uh, every Thursday instead of every, so obviously we're Tuesday. I'm going to do every Thursday where I'm just going to be like answering your questions audibly like putting them in the videos you guys can hear the question and i'm just going to like answer the question kind of how i'm talking about this question answer at the end of
Starting point is 02:16:50 the pod but i'm going to do a solo pod where i just basically just respond to their questions like audibly so i'm going to start doing that every thursday uh on raw talk on this channel subscribe i appreciate the fucking love um blessed to have you man thank you do you still own nothing of that damn dude that sucks loyal servant bro you know that's crazy in that respect at least but you get i'm i mean there's other benefits no he already told me he's going to break me off because that's He already told me he's gonna be he's breaking me off bro because that's a big one breaking him off yeah that's shit fucking no yeah he's gonna yeah i'll be taken care of i'm not worried about it good good you should because you you know it's funny your ads are i have it 24 your ads are hilarious i brought more than they do on youtube bro what the fuck dude you serious i brought it to your opening yeah no i love it and then what about oh fuck before we get off this topic now just real quick the energy drinks are they six times the caffeine is actually they're not they're i can't believe i'm even talking about it this much as a non-equity owner no they have 200 milligrams of caffeine which is which is the same amount as other you know
Starting point is 02:17:48 competitive drinks and less than some other ones why did they say that there are some that have 300 milligrams uh i don't i don't remember the whole story it's it's it's did some product get fucked up no no i don't remember what the i don't remember what it was it doesn't that that was the that was the issue it doesn't have it it was wrong definitely because i've had one it was incorrect it has 200 200 milligrams caffeine it's an 18 plus energy drink product that has 100 milligrams less than a lot of the competitive set there's I'm not going to name other brands but like they have 300 milligrams yeah it's not it's it's completely in line with the with the industry standards I've literally drank it was like no there's no there's no they crack
Starting point is 02:18:26 they're cracking for sure yeah but they're not no they're not out of by any means out of line with with industry standards yeah we're anyways fuck it we're signing off appreciate you thank you for coming uh non equity owner thank you so much for giving that shout out um yeah that's it I love you guys, I'm out. Peace.

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