RAWTALK - Mikey Alfred Talks Illegal Civ hate, working w/ A$AP Rocky & past w/ Tyler the Creator

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

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Oh, let's go. Okay, man. Well, first off, I want to say thank you for showing up. Thank you for coming, man. I'm really, really impressed by you overall. I sat down with you last week, watched the documentary that you're about to drop coming this week, right? No. No. This week's just the first premiere. The first premiere. When is it official official? Well, we're going to premiere it in other cities and kind of tore it. so it's not a traditional type of like release no why why do you do it differently well with my movie north hollywood yeah we turned it into sundance everyone turned us down like meaning all the distributors yeah hulu netflix that kind of stuff yeah so then we did our own screening and invited people and then they all turned us down personally like they let us know again like No, you know. So we put the movie on our website. Okay. Did a screening at SoFi Stadium. We did the first event there. Yeah. Took it to Paris, did a few other cities, and then we put it on iTunes, went number one, comedy, 15 days. This with North Hollywood. North Hollywood. Right. Ended up selling it to Showtime. So that whole, we got like a bidding war between Showtime and Hulu, but that whole kind of experience. showed me like there's a different way to put out a movie and just exploring different ways.

Why do you think, why do you think, I guess it would be considered mainstream Hollywood? Why do you think they were resistant to taking on your project in a way that would make it more seamless? Like for you to have to go through those hoops for them to prove to then come back full circle to be like, oh wait, now we want to put this on Showtime, we don't want to put this here, we want to put this there. Why do you think they had that towards you? Just get the style of shooting like this? What do you think it is, genuinely? I really don't know.

You'd have no idea. Interesting. It's crazy because, like, I just, so I watched it and the things that I like most about it. And obviously, before we get more into this, Mikey, illegal civilization, anything else you want to, like, make known before we get into the rest of this? About you, like, what you, because I was curious. Lester. Lester's here as well. Yeah, Lester Singleton.

Lester Singleton. I'm from Los Angeles, California. Happy to have you here, man. Been out here with Mikey since, like, we was kids. Yeah, I saw a bunch of you in that film. So I'm curious, though, like, do you think it's because, like, just the culture around, like, skating in general is just kind of a little rough, like, the style, like, to sit that you guys do the street stuff, like, because I noticed it's just watching the documentary, the whole thing is, like, we talked about the, you know, the Hell Week thing and, like, proving yourself and, like, going through it. But then also just the way people receive just skaters, specifically, like, street skaters in general, it's just not always well received because it's, like, you know, going on people's property, all this kind of stuff. Do you think that's why, like, they, you have pushback to when you're trying to, like,

present these projects to bigger networks? No, I cared because that's how you get it seen by a lot of people. Yeah. And that's how you build your brand. Right. And make more dough off the movie. Of course. So I don't know why they turn me down at first, but it's like anything, you know.

Yeah. Try to date a girl, date somebody you like, turn you down. Yeah. So what's this, like, what's this whole process of becoming, a filmmaker for you like because obviously i was talking to your boys when we were we were watching this documentary they all said that you were the guy that always had the camera like did you and but also they said that you were a little like stubborn around what you were going to do with your life and how you're going to do it and almost like obviously that sort of determination is why you're here today

and like why you're doing the things that you're doing um have you always been that way with everything in your life i try to be yeah like even playing water polo everything he did it was like make hell week you know what i mean like yeah starts out with all these kids and then they get cut and it's only 12 kids let's say at the end i'm there all three years yeah any sports i played i did football basketball yeah but then with skating too like we got to go hard of course but with the filmmaking thing like like how did like i don't know because it's such a like specifically that genre like to make film around skating and like technically for skaters to start in that like area is so like how did you know that that could be a platform

for you to to like upgrade yourself like to get better and to grow like did you was that the first and you're like okay this is what I'm going to go do and this is how I'm going to see see my success through was through this or it's just like what you loved or like how did you decide it was for you skateboarding it's um as a kid I grew up with my family we go hang out um you know we go on family And they're exciting to be around, and we would always go do fun stuff. But then as I became a little bit older, you know, I'm talking 10 or 11, it became like, okay, don't do stuff like that. But let's still go outside and let's have some good fun, you know, and skateboarding is exciting. Don't do stuff like what prior?

You just don't want to be like messing around. Yeah. Being like a dumb kid, you know. Yeah. Because at least with skating, you're filming it, and you're working towards something, you know. Yeah. You're making a movie. Yeah. So I noticed in the film, you grew up in Compton originally, right?

No, no. No. The film wasn't... So, I mean, maybe what you're referencing is when I was first born. You were first born. We lived in South Central. Right. And then we moved to...

You grew up in North Hollywood. North Hollywood. Right. But I always claim North Hollywood. You always claim North Hollywood. Yeah. Yeah. Does, does, like, the skate culture affect the way that you film, like, when you decide shots?

Because I notice, like, the way you shoot, everything is very, like, raw. It's very real. You know what I'm saying? Like, it feels real. Like, when you see the shots of the, of, like, this. Yeah, because obviously you're filming so much. And obviously, you edit everything as well. I know I asked you about that.

So you put it all together in a way that just seems very, like. I edited Hell Week. Yeah. But, like, North Hollywood. I worked with my guy Alex. Of course. He's great. You had a bigger team on that kind of production, right?

Yeah, yeah, exactly. But this one is like, it just feels very like in the moment. Do you think that's like the, like what makes you different than most people when you film? Because I notice like when I look at other stuff, it doesn't, I don't know, it doesn't feel as genuine, as like hardcore in a sense. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. And I don't think about other people when I'm filming. Yeah.

and like the culture or whatever doesn't like affect my decisions so that's a question I want to figure out what does like how are you deciding what you think is fire what you think is good what you like because like obviously a lot of people agree with it even though obviously you have some haters like we all got some haters we'll talk about that in a little bit but like how do how are you deciding what you know like this is this is going to be it and this is what I want to put in my film hmm like does it start not to think you know I try to just do what's natural and um you know like even the cut of the film you saw yeah it's still going to change from there um so i just try to let things evolve naturally as they do so is that is that just how you just do everything it's just like just like present in the moment with it in a way yeah i definitely have a vision and i have like goals that i want to hit but i know that i can't control how how to get there you know what i mean yeah and to try you're just going to be like stressed so i'm trying to figure out how does it all come to fruition for you like how do you make it all a thing like what's your process like so if you have a vision you have like

the goals you want to hit are you just filming tons of content or are you like showing up and you're like okay i know i'm going to shoot this and i want to shoot it this way you know what i'm saying like i'm trying to get to like the details of like how you're deciding what shots you're going to get how you're going to get them because it's just such a unique style the way that you do it and then obviously it's opened you up to a whole world of so many other opportunities you know what i'm saying so i'm just curious because like not everyone who does filmmaking gets to have those sort of the opportunities that you do I'm thankful for them too you know yeah of course I get a lot of good opportunities but it just depends on the project so like if I'm doing a commercial like I did an adidas commercial

before I've directed a few different commercials and those have to be super specific you basically have to draw it out before you get there and make like a whole treatment show everybody like this is literally exactly what it's going to look like yeah and I like doing that that's fun too I did North Hollywood kind of in that way where I drew everything out first yeah but then like you know hell week we just met Dom today yeah and he got a trick and you know that could end up in the video right so the skate videos and the documentaries it's kind of more like just be in the moment with the camera it kind of reminds me of YouTube like it's a little more just like just running gun I get it done what do you enjoy more like the the the structured where they're like yo we needed to look like this because like you showed me i know you just did a Gucci thing yeah which is huge that's crazy like well also what are the budgets on shit like that is that just like they pay crazy i mean he's like he's like he's like yeah that's lit that's so dope yeah man ASAP rocky yeah Elliott page that's huge julia garner it's gonna be really cool

and it's just like uh is it like a little short real or is it like a commercial like what's like a home video oh shit the concept is like they're living together and how long in their home film in like five minutes 10 minutes like a minute Gucci controls it oh you don't even know yeah but do they so they come to you and they're like yo we want this this and this figure it out or do they say this is what you're going to shoot shoot it in your style how does that process work I've always been curious I don't even want to speak on Gucci too much yeah but um that one's going to be cool And that one was more casual in the way it was captured. I didn't have to like, you know, show them anything.

But each one's different. Was it like working with ASAP? Was that fun? Oh, he's the guy. Yeah. It was like day one. We had to wear masks, like all the crew. Yeah.

And I've got mine on and I've got my head down. And I'm filming with this big camera and they're doing photo. So he's like not, it's not like he's like performing for me. You know what I mean? Right. And in the middle of filming, And he's like, hey, my man, can you, like, lower your mask? And, you know, I know him.

To you. Yeah, I know him from working with Tyler and doing the cherry bomb doc and all that. And when I kind of, like, put it down, he's like, what the fuck? Hey! You know you there? Yeah, he kind of like stops the thing. He's like, bro, what's happening right now? And he's like, Gucci hired you?

I'm like, yep. He's like, damn, like, we lit. Then he told me, I'm mad of you. Why? I said, why? he said uh i heard you're working on another movie and you didn't hit me up i said i'm going to give you the script when we did today yeah what is what is that project that he's talking about that's my next movie do you know what it's going to be i only want to speak on damn oh what

what's not even a little bit no okay that's fair that's fair um is it a big production is it going to be a big production yeah do you know can you say what was studio with studio damn okay so i've i've been wondering this because i've been looking at a bunch of stuff like first off how did you how did you meet tyler and then i want to follow up with some more questions about like how did you get so connected in in this space and entertainment in general like where did where did that how did that start because not everyone is like picks up a camera and it's like i'm going to go make videos and the next you know they're filming all these people you know people who really like who are doing like a lot

of amazing things in their life like doing stuff for Gucci doing all this stuff like making the movie the north hollywood doing all the stuff that you've done the documentary the cherry bomb thing Like, how did you find yourself in these situations? My parents. They're just, like, super well-connected? I have great parents. Yeah. My mom worked for Robert Evans.

Okay. And he's the producer of the Godfather. Amazing. Yeah, she worked for him for, like, 35 years. Okay. Now she works for this guy, David Zazlov. I haven't met him yet, but he's a big deal, too. Yeah.

And my dad, he knows a lot of people, too. Yeah. you saw in hell week right um we featured a little bit about that so but it's like but obviously like you it's not enough just to know someone right i mean you can get your foot in the door but all these people really accept you like they really like they like your work they obviously enjoy working with you well how do you speak to that like is it just the care the kind of person you are like you're easy to work with because obviously it's a very it's a very tight-knit community where you know if you flop something then they probably all know right and you you haven't seemed to

flop anything so they respect your work they respect how you do it yeah um I don't know because same thing with that I try not to like think about it too much you know and with a lot of people I meet them when they're here so it's like when they're at the bottom when they're when they're just starting yeah so I'm able to document the rise you know you get a different in when you meet somebody when they're still at their humble beginning yeah and I've met a lot of people like that then you know you just know people from growing up random stuff like how did you school even like I live in L.A. yeah yeah but so many people live in L.A. they're not just like and I'm sure there's tons of kids who live in L.A. who want to film shit and they don't just like

yo what's up we're doing it you know like you you're doing it. Am I wrong right or wrong that's true it's not that simple so how did you how did you meet how did you start your relationship with Tyler through knock hell okay and like does that you have a strong relationship with him still to this day

no no just like for any sort of reason no no just kind of everyone gets busy yeah no I feel that that's normal as fun especially in this space man did you did you like when you were young

obviously growing up in North Hollywood did you think that this stuff was going to be a part of your life like being on social and being on the internet and having a brand, did you think this was all a part of your plan? Like, was it gonna, like, when you were young, you were like, this is something I think I could do or did you see other people doing it?

And you're like, I want to be like that. Or like, how did you start to create your big picture? I mean, I remember when there was no internet. Yeah, me too. Those are fucking golden days, man. Shit was more simple back then. And it was just more like, you could sit in the room together. Yeah.

Like most people, bro, they can't even like sit down. They have to be like, oh yeah it's like they can't just hang out yeah it's crazy it's it's a new normal now totally weird like for that like how old are these two how old are you guys 12 12 and 14 you guys probably grew up with a phone in your hand or like a tablet huh he sure did he did yeah yeah he was like it's different man it's it's such a crazy thing now where it's just like this is just the normal to be just locked in and i talk about this a lot but it seems like on someone else's life. You know what I'm saying? Because for the most part, if you're locked in on the phone,

you're consuming content from someone else. Unless you're like Snapchat in your face or something like or you're doing a story, but likely you're watching consuming something else. And it's weird though because like that concept is taking people away from themselves and like what like what do they actually want to do. And then it's always related to what someone else is doing. You know what I'm saying? Like oh, that person is doing that. I want to go do that. So it's almost like we're losing this like, I don't know, self-identity or sense of self. Like even TikTok, you know, like, Have you ever used TikTok? I don't like that.

But you know how like TikTok is like everything is repeated and it's like you just copy a sound or a trend and someone else does it and then you just everyone does it and it gets views because other people do it. And then it's just the thing to do more of. Like even the kids, they know exactly. They're like, yeah, that's the thing. But it's like that's a crazy thing because it's like the you're removing creativity. It's just like do what that guy did with that sound and then you'll get views where it's like

what the fuck. So we're all making the same sort of shit. So true. It's just we've gotten to this place where. were taught to be like just be like other people so that's why i'm curious about you like how did you how did you go like from young to like i'm going to do this like when did you decide i'm going to pick up a camera and i like this is what i'm going to do with my life for the rest of my life as a kid like and why and why since i was a kid just having fun really yeah and just like

going out skating it became like like lesser he's always been good since we're a little I'll just call him up. At skating. Yep. And then it's like, well, I'm not about to throw myself off the 10 stair or the 15th stair. You're going to watch him do it. Yeah. And he does it.

I don't have a camera. So I'd be like. And I got a camera, though. You got the camera. Like, I'm going to try this. So it's really just. My uncle Kevin Swain. Yeah.

He's a director. Okay. And he had a camera that he would let me use. Yeah. And then I worked and saved up, went and got. got my own camera and when we're in the store my mom ended up saying you know what i got you and right when that happens we look up and we see stevie in the camera store but like the the the the the the homey wheels was with me and yeah we're like wow like look that's him and then we

start thinking like why is he in the camera store you know what would you be buying in here yeah But then when we went up to him, he told us he was getting something for his assistant. So when did you, like, but how did you decide just because obviously you didn't want to do the tense there? You wanted to watch him and do it. So all your stuff just comes from the fact that like you just love skating so much and documenting that process that you were just like, this is why I have the camera? Or when did it evolve into like, I'm not necessarily just skating either because my first times ever picking up a camera was with my uncle. Okay. And, you know, we did the Alicia Keys Hollywood Bowl show.

And I got to sit in the control booth with him And he's directing the cameras and everything You watched all this Yep Yeah And those are like my first jobs You know I would go and be B camera

As a little kid And I'm pushing the thing And I can hear him on the headphones Like getting a check from the production And everything Yeah So you did have some examples of like Okay this is kind of how you do it

Oh yeah And I had people come in like my uncle And telling me like Let's go do a job You know what I mean Oh, that's dope. Yeah. So that's, you kind of like almost like you grew up in it.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. But the skating thing specifically, like you, you have the most fun doing that. You have the most fun filming that. Or do you, like I said, I'm trying to get this answer on it. Like, what do you enjoy more now? Like the scripted stuff that you know you're doing specifically for a bag, right, or for a company? Or the stuff where you're, this is like, I'm not saying there's no bags in the skating stuff,

but obviously it seems a little more passionate for you. Yeah. You know? I enjoy both. Yeah. And the other stuff, it's like, you can't control. that it's going to come when it comes yeah is it is it like uh when you're working with these bigger companies um do you ever feel more pressure than when you're doing it by like by yourself and for

yourself just because the need to like like i said with the skating stuff for the doc the things where you're kind of like more in charge of the show you know creatively that like this is how you want to do it and like it's it's pretty much on you versus when the bigger companies are like yo here's a bag you got to do it this way that's always a thing for sure. Yeah. But I try to frame myself in a way where it's like, if you're going to work with me, just follow my lead.

Yeah. Or I'll film it for you and then just give it to you. And I don't want to hear anything else, you know? So I try to play it like that. So you try to set up before you start working, like let them know, like, preface it by saying like, I'm going to, I want it to be this way, like, give me that creative control. So that's not as bad.

Because I'm trying to imagine, like, someone would be like, here's a giant bag and they're like but it has to be this way and you're like I've been through that yeah with any specific companies I got I got I got to ask these questions it'd be weird if you said that I didn't say shit I'm just saying you understand as an interview I can't be like okay don't say anything look I'll tell you when I get paid we make the thing and I'm able to be the leader it's just smooth I deliver them my honest work they give a few notes I might tweak it bit boom yeah when it's anything else when it's like I'm having to hear them talk a bigillion times about all this stuff it's like guys you can just have those conversations

like you edit it because I feel like in situations like that it just gets watered down yeah it's like interesting because it's like if you talk about as a creative it's like your goal like if they're coming to you to be like yo here's the money and like they're like I want you to shoot this because like obviously they picked you for a reason right and then they start to go oh we want to change this this this and this and then it's just like well you should have just filmed it exactly like why'd you hire me there's also sometimes i'll have big brands reach out to me and they'll send me a pitch with my stuff in it whoa wait wait and then tell me to pitch them i'll be like nega it's like you're looking for my stuff just hire me it's like why am i going

pitch you wait like we want it like this what's up willie they'll be like we want it like this but it's like we want it like an IC video and then they'll be like but and then but but but it's like nah just let me give it to you that's wild but do they even know that they're doing that like that seems like maybe there's too many people involved with it like someone's pitched you with this thing and then the other person who didn't know about this is like we want this though but let's talk about i see a little bit how did you create the name that's a good because that's that's the coolest like it's it the name itself is just dope right why did you decide that now we made a video called the spark of life okay when we're like 11 exactly so it started

at 11 this is way back this is the first first video okay and this is like burbank kids yeah take us through it and we did a premiere at active and I think yeah a couple clips in yeah but I also think you weren't here right no I was uh you got closer to the mic I was in I was in juvenile halls when that happen okay pretty much a bad family situation and then split up and then kind of just trying to figure out my way and like stay out the streets and then got in trouble living in burbank by the cops it was just always target me yeah long story short like skateboarding was just like my getaway and then i remember filming for them or well mike when mickey pretty much we were filming and then it was Kyle Adams at the time yeah pretty much that was like our big homie yeah he was like the older

homie that had a camera came from Arizona started filming he was like really good he said you need to film and I was like I just like to go skate have fun and then that was it what were you into that got you in trouble pretty much not going to school and stuff like that so there was like truant and then I wouldn't go to court and they were just like oh this kid's a bad kid they said you just fuck off and just skate or what yeah I'd literally go to school for like first two periods say what's up to the homies leave go skate all day go skate that's it go to like pretty much downtown just hang out there all day long and then it's paying off now right well yeah it's a lot better now so it's different because

like i remember showing my first clip to like one of my homies on like a flip phone yeah on a razor it was on a because i had a razor it flipped open sideways it was like one of those like world's fastest text phone like the sidekick no it was like it opened up like a little book oh okay wait but we got a shout out so the day after spark live premiere okay we went to the homie grady's house And we're sitting in a circle and we're like, yo, we gotta come up with the name for the next video. So who's Grady? Just for conversations.

Grady is one of the skaters. Okay, and he's spark a life. And he's also in Illegal Civilization One. Okay. And he's the one who came up with illegal civilization. And why were you guys deciding it like that was it? Because you're like, it was just like, bro, he said it. It was like.

That was it. It was fire. So what people were there in the beginning that aren't there now? A lot. yeah people have some things to say about you sometimes on the internet has ever bug you can't worry about that yeah yeah the internet's just scary the internet do you you don't engage much with all that kind of shit like the hate nonsense because also there's that kid he's like take my shit out of the documentary yeah like what 700,000 yep I see it just because that's the amount of time you filmed

them right no I'm just being a dick But he's being a dick. That's fair. That's fair. We don't want to speak on it. Oh, that's right, because it might not,

oh, my bad, got you. But, you know, basically they just did something that wasn't cool. Yeah. And I'm like, keep skating, keep filming, and the clips will get swapped out.

But, you know, you got to show that you know that that shit's not okay, you know? Yeah. And instead it's like, no, let me buy the clips and I'm going to have my mom text you. Yeah, all right.

It's like that. But I guess it's, I mean, he's a kid, so it makes sense. And he just, what, he just, he didn't want the people to look at him that way, or what do you think? I mean, they just shouldn't be doing that kind of stuff. Yeah. Why do you think that kind of shit is like, I don't know, is it, do you think skating in general is like just a younger demographic or like that idea that, you know, you could just fuck with people? Because like, I grew up skating not to this level, not to this degree at all.

But like, I remember those times it was kind of like, fuck everyone. Like, I'm just going to do what I want to do. Like, why do you think skating has that sort of like headspace? at times why do you think so I mean I think because it's like everybody just has their own mindset on skating so it's like you go to a spot you have your vision of it it's not like nowadays you have these kids they look at their phone oh I seen this guy do it like this I'm gonna go there and try to do it like him like what I was saying earlier exactly and it's like that takes like pretty much like

the originality of like skateboarding away because like it's not you yeah it's like you're trying to copy somebody else like I don't go to a spot and be like I want to do this because this guy did it I'm like dang he did this he did this I want to do something different something different yeah and then now that's where it changes up skating have people do like these crazy tricks where it's like it's cool you do like this crazy trick but it's like you're not having fun doing that yeah you got it doesn't look original it doesn't look natural so like yeah it's almost forced yeah do it just because someone else did it uh-huh or trying to one-up somebody you want him to jump on the mic we got our guy Nosta here we got a special guest we're gonna sing a

track for you real quick you know i can lie when you told me we were going to do this i was like i don't know how the fuck we're going to pull this off i hope jacob could edit this properly um but yo we're going to get you're going to get you on a mic is this brand new completely brand new never heard before or what's this is an unreleased song okay and i grew up you know singing in the choir in church yeah playing piano so you sang a little bit in that documentary too exactly thank you man appreciate that yeah i just wanted to sing a little song for you man yeah let's do it Get them in here. Let's do it.

If you use my seat, that's rude, you know. Yeah, just make sure you're close to the mic. This is Bradley. Bradley, very good to meet you. Very good to meet you, too. Yeah. We ride it, we fly it, we glide it, we're gliding, come on, girl, let's go, let's go. We ride it, we fly it, we fly it, we fly it, we fly it.

Come on, girl, let's go Yeah I'm a 105 freeway A little way you smell When you jumped in It's time to vibe while we slide We ride through the night Girl, this is your moment

Your only chance Top down, we running through red light Hair blowing in the way You're looking right Your energy got the mood right Who got to push it away? We're smoking fine. We gliding.

We gliding. We fly it. Come, girl, let's go. Shit, at the moment, I'm high as a motherfucking right there. I'm feeling this shit, though. We ride it.

We fly it. We gliding. Come on, girl. Let's go. Yeah, solid. Damn. So, how long have you been making music for? Me, I've been making music for a long time.

Well, I came up, too, in a church house and shit, you know what I mean? I came up in the church and playing an instrument, you know what I mean? Same thing. We had, like, a lot in common and shit. Yeah. We met through a little story, like, you know what I mean? We went on and elaborate on it, but we met through a little story, you know what I'm saying? It just was like a straight-up thing, a loyalty thing, and being truthful to somebody, and he was truthful to me.

Yeah. I was truthful to him. Can't tell a story? No, I really don't want to tell a story, you know what I'm saying? It's like a touchy story, you know what I'm saying? But it brought us together, you know what I mean? And we got a lot of things accomplished. We got a lot of things put together, you know what I'm saying?

A lot of thoughts, you know what I mean? So my boy told me he did music too, you know what I'm saying? I do music. Yeah, no stuff. He really does music. He has been doing it for years. I'm on tour, actually. Go ahead.

On tour, he's worked with Y, G, all types of people. Okay, yeah, I'm actually with RJ, Mr. L.A. I'm from Amio, you know what I'm saying. It's an acronym for my mom, my mom, I'm on. You know what I'm saying? But I'm going on tour right now with 24 hours. Shit, I'm just out here grinding, you know what I'm saying? How long have you been making music for?

I've been taking music serious for about two years. How long have you been trying to make music prior to taking a series? No, I didn't know how to do music. I just was caught up in the game. Yeah. We're caught up in the street life, you know what I'm saying? I was in and out of the jail system. And you know what I'm saying

And then I got out From doing a little bit And shit So I said You know what I'm just gonna Just practice on my craft Because I'm already good at it

So I practice on my craft So you know what I'm saying And I'm just staying focused on that I'm just staying focused on that Do a little acting Yeah You know what I'm saying I'm in a couple of movies and shit

Chris Brown You know what I'm saying All these she ball Yeah That's some of my close friends Like Chris Brown the shit of R-J-Y-G. So I'm curious about this.

With music in general, both you guys can answer this question, but I'm actually like, so most people have probably never tried to make music. It's safe to say that, right? When do you realize you're like, you're just like in the shower one day and you're like, yo, I could do this? Like, how do you, you know what I'm saying? Like, when do you decide that shit? No, no.

We ride in. Yeah, I'm like. We decided that. We gliding. Like, obviously, come on, girl. Let's go. No, no, no, no. So he got, look, so look, I'm thinking he said, we got to do some shit.

We got to do some shit. Yeah. So me, I'm like a gang rap. I like, I gangster rap, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I'm like, damn. But I sing too, though. So I'm like, damn, how are we going to do this?

How are we going to pull this shit off? Yeah. So he comes, I'm like, man, you know what? Let's get the studio session. Ain't nothing to it but to just try it. Yeah. So I'm going over my album with him, letting him listen to all my features and all this.

things and we put a beat on we just start going it just it didn't even wasn't even nothing it just made it in minutes like so when did you know you were you could be good at like was it uh were you young like growing up skating like lester could tell you and maybe let's you want to swap out whatever whatever you're comfortable with yeah no no it's up to y'all man i just can't step in and yeah exactly and we just killed it i feel yeah yeah crushed it yeah appreciate you For sure, man. I appreciate you, man. The Noster, man, y'all come fuck with your boy.

Hey, show some love. Wait, wait. Tell them your Instagram so they can follow you. Yeah, man. Go follow me, man. You know what I'm saying? Nosta underscore BBM, N-O-S-T-A-U-B-B-B-M. Shit, the Noster on all digital platforms.

You know what I'm you in the motherfucking building. Fucking with illegal sales. Just like that. So when did you like, because obviously you're super creative, right, to be able to shoot the shit, like, direct it, know what it should look like, how it should be. because then obviously you're anticipating how someone's going to receive it and people love it but how do you how do you then decide you're like you're

that's what I'm saying are you in the shower one day and you're just like oh I sound good you know like I know so what I was going to say is like growing up going out skating there will be times where we might be on a session then I'm like hey I have to go home and do piano so I would all the time I'll leave the skate session but what made you have to go because you had a class I had a teacher Her name was Linda. Okay. So I have a neighbor.

His name's Andrew Kimball. We live in a cul-de-sac in North Hollywood. Yeah. But his three black families is so weird. And Andrew and his little sister took piano lessons, and then I ended up taking lessons from her, too. So that was how it would happen. But that's not singing.

Obviously, piano's different. Also, no, what I was going to say is that when I got to elementary school, I went and did the choir. And our teacher was a guy named Paul. Salomonovitch rip rip if you look him up he did it's a small world after all he's that was his song like he directed the choir got it i was gonna say god damn he um he directed the choir for the vatican okay yep and he has won a grammy too paul salmanovich but uh he was our choir teacher at school and he saw you was like yo you got you got these pipes no he actually didn't like me

oh okay okay okay where the fuck are we going i love this yeah so you're not so you singing he didn't like you there was a girl in our choir class and me and her would sit next to each other and one day he goes Michael and he picks a chair up and he slams it right next to his piano bench and he's like like I'm sitting here and when I sit down he scoots the chair and he's real quiet with me and he knows my mom who she works for and everything and he's like you know the movie right the godfather and I'm just like looking at him and he's like you keep your friends close but your enemy's closer you're gonna sit right here every day for the rest of the year on choir why were you an enemy though i don't know but i would sit right next to him every single

day like he's on the piano our knees were like this far from each other well were you were you like fucking around or some shit i mean i think he was just i don't know what it was but okay you you stood an answer how did you how did you realize you were good at singing how did you realize you were good at through paul salamanovitch just because you were around him or you guys I mean, he would teach us and, you know, he'd say you got to sit up straight, you got to get your diaphragm a certain way, you know, he was that guy. Yeah. And so that helps you realize like, oh, I could be good at this.

And I love, I love music. I always have, you know, that's why I've always put certain music in my skate videos. I've always loved music. A lot of, like, your variety and the music in that documentary was like fucking incredible. Thank you, man. That was like, I was like, damn, there's a few songs. did not expect to hear this song yeah now Frank Sinatra all that kind of stuff you know frank Sinatra used to go to St. Charles which is where I went so we knew about him and

Bing Crosy all types of people since we're little kids you know yeah it happened in Monterey how much how much of all this like a long time ago how much how much of all this stuff like music obviously your life how much of it like would you say just affects the way you make films like are you thinking about the music prior to shooting scenes or like are you think about the music you know what I'm saying when you're like I'm listening you're like oh I could shoot it like this sometimes yes music can be super inspiring in that way yeah I'll hear a song it'll make me envision something for sure and what time is it it's uh I got to take the kids home oh you're good 639 I don't know what's

time you guys got to go home at they got to be home pretty soon yeah damn you guys are well you guys skating today or what yeah you just roll it you just skate all the time huh yeah fuck I mean we can't we can we can we can we can it soon but okay I just wanted to I just wanted to wrap it up I mean I'm just trying I'm curious man like where does all that the creativity come from do you say would you say because you're just like you're in that space 100% fucking genetic like someone's like bro you like you said yeah do you sit at home and rush time we ride in we ride in It's just always been there. I don't know.

But I just try to do every idea that comes to me, you know? Yeah. I was thinking about even this cardigan and then I have a friend downtown. She cut it up a certain way and got the buttons. She did a great job.

Yeah, and it's Natasha. Yeah, because your friend, we'll wrap this up, but your friend, when I was watching documentary before, I think, I don't know if you were doing, you might have been talking to Nate or something, he said that you'd always been like ahead of the curve as far as like creatively and like music and all that kind of stuff like you put him on the stuff before like everyone else you know like before an artist got popular like this artist got popular is it just is it just because you just have always looked into this stuff sooner or do you think you have like a special ear for or eye for it creative wise like where does it come from you super like you don't have an answer i mean because yeah it's just i guess there is no answer i just go with what i feel but i'm hyped that he said that Yeah, you did. Yeah.

Your friends, there's nothing but good things about you. That's really cool. Yeah. It just comes from, yeah. I guess that is. That's all there is to it, man. And, yo, we got to remember we're here. Yeah.

Because, you know, all these kids and the old skaters talking all this mess. Yeah. Has the sales pretty low for the premiere. Really? We want everybody to pull up. Why? So who's talking shit, though? It doesn't even matter.

Yeah. But I just think that's why the tickets are low. Yeah. we got to promote this premiere we want everybody to pull up yeah it's gonna be fun telling the timing of it we've been to be making some music yeah it's this friday okay day after thanksgiving this is just premiere number one you know what i mean so like with hell week you know you cut people yeah week by week so that's kind of how the premieres are going to be it's like to where is it at i might pull up it's called uh 1720 you should pull up that would be lit yeah and yeah man

Babystone gorillas are performing not sure if you ever heard of them yeah they're a cool rap group there's this guy Garzi he's like a rocker yeah yeah I'm gonna pull up what's me you give him more info tell them tell them we'll get out of here um so day so so like if you go you hit the illegal sieve Instagram yeah they got the ticket web because this is dropping Tuesday so this is dropping tomorrow we're lit yeah so yeah we want to promote the premiere yeah we don't want the haters to stop us they're not going to stop us they don't matter no you got you don't leave hanging don't even hang in bro holy shit i was about to jump in there save the fucking day dude holy shit hey thank you for inviting us absolutely man for having us on here

before we leave i had to ask you before we started filming yeah so you got the gym yeah raw gear clothing yeah the full send podcast you're a host on there as well yes sir what's the next project Well, obviously the podcast, but the gym thing, opening up more spaces is what I'm really interested in. We're opening up a new gym in Encino on Ventura and Havenhurst. Like where like an old Office Depot was in like the next couple weeks. From there, I want to open up in different cities. I want to do like Texas. I want to Houston, Miami.

But that's something I'm going to start moving a lot closer on this year than more than I did last year. And then also relaunching in the supplement company origin. So I'm excited about that as well. And then just this, man, like because to be honest, this is what I enjoy. the most I enjoy like getting to know people and like trying to understand people and why they do what they do how do they do it how they get there because so many kids probably click on this video to like learn about you who are probably interested in like what you do how you do it and like how you got there and like looking for some sort of inspiration and figuring out like how

could they get there if they had those sort of similar goals you know and I hope to inspire them as much as I can yeah I think you do I mean just by doing the work like we were talking earlier I think it's important to say though like you don't want to just see someone like you or like me or like anyone who's successful at whatever they do and just go i'm gonna copy it right we're talking about even in skating can't copy yeah you look at someone as like a source of motivation but not like someone i just want to follow in these footsteps you got to figure out like how can you carve your own path and that's why i kept trying to ask you like how did you figure it out because i trying to figure out for the person listening to realize like the thing that you kept saying without

saying was like you're just kind of being yourself essentially and you're just kind of doing with what you feel is right for you and that's why you're finding your success and that's why you're finding your at least from what I'm understanding after talking to you, right? So if people listening, yes, that's something as like a motivation or an inspiration, but don't like try to walk the same steps just because someone else walked them. Don't be afraid to go out on your own and like, you know, walk a completely different set of steps, your own. And even if there's nothing next, like take that next step and don't be afraid of going there.

People say like, oh, it's a marathon, not a race. I feel like it's a hurdles thing. You're constantly jumping over hurdles. Yeah. And you're constantly trying to avoid. problems or have to get through problems and most people quit because they can't yeah they can't deal with it whether it's comments whatever it is absolutely and uh what do you think keeps you going then before we wrap this up man my family yeah and just people who love me and you know my own will man

yeah and just keeping the faith you feel i mean bro like i'll just i'll just i'll just i'll just I'll just say this last note is like it's as simple as if you focus on the negative shit, the outside talk, the negative talk, the comments, the negativity around whatever it is that you want to do, then how are you going to create the thing you actually want to create? If your thoughts are just stuck on, oh, the bad shit or the things that people say about me or this or that. Like you're going to go down that path. Like even just mentally placing that energy there, you're not going to be able to place it where you actually want to place it to be able to go where you actually want to go. So you got to just fucking like what you do, be you and own it.

and fuck all the bullshit and just keep going forward so i appreciate you coming on man i appreciate you for having me thank you as well thank you no so thank you as well um and uh yeah bro that was amazing obviously you could take the kids home yep um but yeah yeah i'm excited for friday and uh yeah fuck the haters yeah you already know hundred it's always that way thank you man for real thank you yeah appreciate you