RAWTALK - Mo Amer on the Erasure of Palestine, Calling Out DJ Khaled & The Art of “Mo”

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

Sponsored by: FactorMealsUse code RAWTALK50OFF to get 50% OFF of your first box + FREE BREAKFAST FOR 1 YEARHere: https://www.factormeals.com/rawtalk50offOn this episode of RawTalk, Bradley Martyn sits down with Mohammed Amer and talks about the Rise of Online Creators, The Improv Process Behind His Comedy, The Pain and Loss That Inspired His Netflix Special, Calling Out DJ Khaled, fatherhood, psychedelics and much more!Hope you enjoy, see you next Tuesday!SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

Is this Eucalyptus? It's not real smelling salts. It's not like, it's not like the crack was. Yeah, I was like, you're fucking hardcore mom. He's just sitting there like, yeah. Imagine? I need a start.

I've never done smelling sauce. No, it's a smelling. It's not like a smelling song. Yeah, eucalyptus sounds nice. Yeah. Yeah, this is like freshening it up, yeah. After a night of cocaine, right? Yeah, yes.

I'm just fucking. I'm just fucking. I really admire what you've done with all the, like, you've had, like, a lot of spawns. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you've had a lot of spons, and I hear them. Yeah. Look who's calling.

Yeah, who's that? Oh, my God, Dave Chappelle. Good way to start off. Yeah, what a, what a, yeah, what a... I got so many more questions now. No, that's dope, man. That's my brother and, like, mentor right there.

Nice little interruption. Dave Chappelle. No, no, I'm like, bro, I got to pick this up. 100%. And we talk all the time, but we haven't talked to the minute since I dropped the special. So he's been, he's a huge supporter. But I'm saying you have a lot of spawns, bro. And I watch, like, I, in the last like two years, not even two years, like year.

Yeah. I've been, like, obsessive about YouTube and what kind of online personalities are coming out and what are the kids doing with this, what Mr. Beast is doing. Just following this whole. it's really another art form that's developed just on YouTube itself and who's done what? So you were popping up a ton

and I was looking at it. I was like, this guy is so interesting. And then I started looking up how you created this whole monster. I was like, this guy's fucking Jack, number one.

And then, of course, that hat thing went mad viral. Yeah, I don't know if you like that. Yeah, I don't care. Why do they keep grabbing your hat, bro? I have no idea.

I don't know why you want to be smacked by a 265 or how much you weigh out. The fucking huge jacked human being Like, don't touch it. Well, it's like, yeah, why are you touching people's shit, period? First of all, you shouldn't, especially on their person. Like, if you see something like, oh, this is cool, you're like, hey, man, don't touch that.

It's on the table. Like, that's the thing. It's on your person and you pull up his hat and you, like, you're going to get smacked. Yeah, it's weird. I think, like, it's just like, you, that's not the guy. The funniest part about the reaction to that was the divide between, like, young people who are like, you're old, you're bald, fuck you. And then the old people who are like, why would you ever do that?

And I feel like even the young people get to a point where they look back in that video and be like, yeah, why would anyone ever do that? Yeah, you just don't disrespect people like that. You think it's funny and you think you can get away with it. The point is, even if you forget about right or wrong on your side, if they keep on this trajectory, somebody's going to smack you. Yeah. And it better be, it's actually, it's probably best for them to happen in a very safe, controlled environment. Yeah. As a gym, rather than punking some crazy person on the street.

And then it gets shot. Like you can get in some neighborhoods You grab somebody's You're gonna shoot you A hundred percent So like yeah So I went down this rabbit hole And I saw what you did with Sarah

And I saw what you did with Felipe Like I reached out to actually Felipe Because yeah Honestly it would have been great To get him in my series Yeah He would be like that special Kind of kid that you could put in mold

Like in acting And things like that And I think he'd love that I mean I'll talk to him about it for sure No for sure he would do that He would do and I have things in mind So I'm just like kind of like It's like

learning on my own kind of seeing who these guys are and who these people are and what they're doing with their lives and how they're accomplishing really great things and creating a wealth for themselves as well and so impressive to see but also it's kind of like a scouting thing for me as well for my future stuff like you don't know what you're going to find or who you're going to find right and you can just pluck out of nowhere yeah because i mean nowadays it's like everyone looks to these social media creators for like presence um yes but i'm like an artist but i like making great stories, great movie, great film, great television, great stand-up.

Like, that's, I'm looking for guys that have the thing, you know? Yeah. There's one thing, it's a whole other monster to get into production of shooting an actual like picture. So how do you determine what the thing is? You can just see it, you feel it. You know, you could tell if somebody can do it or not,

and you just need some guidance to push them in the right direction so they can feel comfortable. Is it mostly the sort of like camera presence? It's camera presence, it's natural, natural ability, like raw natural ability. Yeah, it's funny because I could always see that, like, just like when I met Sarah or anyone that I worked with, you're like, oh, I know that you can do this. Yeah, for sure.

Especially when you've been in it forever. Yes, absolutely. When you start doing something, you're like, oh, you could do this. You know, you could do this. You just need to be, like, persistent and dedicated and to come up with, just keep going to be trial by error. Like, you know, just keep doing the thing. And then as you're doing it, you're going to get better and better.

better and you're going to create a fan base for yourself and then you'll find out what you're like really there's like an online personality and there's like the there's like a little bit of both happening there's there's times where people play it up in front of the camera where being you can tell they're being like it's not natural the way they're coming off yeah and there's people like no that's how they are on camera off camera they're just being themselves yeah and that's the ones that you look for and you're like oh you can actually take it a step further you tap into this you happen to that. You know who's like that a lot ironically enough just because he's been popping up lately and I'm supposed to go interview him in Miami but six nine. Oh really? I just randomly thought

of that. He's the literal same human. I don't know if you know or if you've seen any of the stuff. I don't know anything about six nine. All I know is all the bad stuff. But it's like you know, I have no idea. But that's yeah, that's a very odd situation. Like he's a different example. Right. Right. But but I just, you know, I find the fact like I feel like in the most recent videos that I've seen because he's been popping off with a bunch of different streamers, I think. Like hopping on with them. Damn, you're tapped in because that's like current current. And I see him and I see, bro, I, like, I digest so much content.

It's like the last two weeks, current. I digest so much content, bro. I digest like so from film, television, documentary to reading to just garbage, you know, online garbage, just filter through so much. Because you need commentary. As a comedian, you just have this bank in your head. I don't even know that it's in there. And sometimes I'll be speaking on stage because everything is improvised for me.

when I'm on stage, when I'm writing, I don't, like, think, like, today I'm going to talk about this, and tomorrow I'll talk about that, and I don't do that. But it's not full improv, right? You have, like, sure. No, full, everything from the start of my set, like, from starting on zero. Like, I am now. Yeah. And it's just released Wild World.

Right. So, ever since then, I'm starting from zero. There's other stuff I could do, but I don't want to do it because it's not what I want to talk about. So you walk on stage and literally just start talking. like figure it out so when you're actually filming the wild world thing you're it's improv so no when so the the beginning of the the writing process for me which is starting to do pop-ups like i'll do 80-seater 180-seater you start building up to the 500 800 and then you're picking the best jokes and now you're picking this oh i freestiled on this there's something there you know i'll film

everything i'll revisit it hold on make it bigger and bigger and bigger tighten it up, tighten it up, tying it up, tying it up. Then you have a set. And then, okay, now I'm ready for my theater run. Now you do a theater run. Comedy is always, but, yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead. The closer for Wild World, which is all about time, I wrote that the day before I filmed. Never performed it. Never did it in front of a live audience. I was inspired the day before, and I wrote four pages on time, which I've had in my head, like some kind of version of it. And then it all came together Wednesday. I wrote it out Wednesday. Thursday I filmed the like the rehearsal in front of a lot of audience which was decent not good not perfect yeah but decent pretty good and then Friday I just locked myself in the green room had a security out front of my door I was like because I was also directing my special but I already gave everybody that what they you know needed to do as far as camera ops my DP everyone knew what I wanted yeah there was any like really important production questions then you can come in otherwise leave

me alone. It's me and my boy A. Z. And we're sitting there. And I'm just memorizing, memorizing, memorizing. Because I've never done this before. It's the closer for the whole special. Yeah. I don't know if anybody's done that, but it's, it's really, um, I don't, I don't recommend it to just anybody for sure, but it was really, really special. Yes. You're making something, it's, it's interesting to make something so sincere and serious, also funny. Yes. That's what I find really interesting. It's really, but I'm in a situation where, like, releasing season, two of Moe, talking about being Palestinian in America,

taking the family to Palestine in the final episode, from there going on tour, meeting so many, you know, not only fans, but also the fans and fans are heartbroken in the own right, dealing with their own things from all backgrounds and all walks of life. Yeah.

And then you're meeting people, the literal people that actually fled Gaza, kids, then you're meeting doctors. It's just like so much pressure to kind of capture the time you know right to on stage to really buttoned up season two of mo this is done now this is i'm going to say everything i need to say both what i think what the world is thinking and saying the things out loud that most people are afraid of saying yeah and that was really scary territory for me it was just really um because i just

you know i just want to at some level enjoy myself on stage and and have these observations or the things you want to talk about and not have this pressure attached to it. But for good or worse, I had to do it. For better or for worse, I had to do it. And the bit at the end is sort of about being ahead of your time, right? It's about time. It's not really ahead of time.

I don't want to be ahead of my time. If you see the bit, you'll know why that's funny. But it's about time. It's about the wordplay around time. It's like a poem, but also capturing this moment. in time. It's really inspired because when I lost my sister in July, tragically, just out of nowhere, she just, not out of nowhere, she's been sick for three years. And, you know, just, you know, I had lost my brother three years prior to that almost of the day. That was sudden. So it just,

like, it made me think about time and how precious time is and how it's the most valuable commodity. And it's a really, you know, I thought it was just like a really interesting and thoughtful puzzle to try to figure out, you know, and a way to really surmise everything, not only in the special, but of the times, you know? Yeah, in the world. Yeah, in the world. And it's hard not to do it. One of you're asking me about it, it's hard not to do it.

But it's such a wordplay to it. It's such a movement to it. And it's supposed to capture everything that's going on now, but also supposed to be timely and timeless. Yeah, the weird thing about time is, I said earlier about sort of being ahead of your time. being ahead of your time most of the time sorry no it's how it is i know is uh you're really not ahead of it you're you're you're right on it i think i think like there's a lot of stuff for example during covid times that people would say that were like you're you're wrong for saying

this you can't say this so you shouldn't say this then you look back and you're like oh those people were right and it's it goes away right because then people don't talk about it anymore sort of like this situation with Palestine and with Israel where it's like so many people are like gotten to this point now where they're like this is wrong right this is bad obviously there's still a whole group of people that say this is justified and this is war and all this stuff what's your perspective on that as a whole if you had to like I know it's a big question but on the idea that because you are Palestinian which is a whole other sort of I'll have another question for you about that in a second, but being in this space, being in

entertainment, talking about these things, obviously it's true to you, so you're going to talk about them regardless. What's your take on it all? Like, why do you think, not that why it's happening, but why do you think right now it's all of a sudden more of a talking point than what it could have been for a very long time? Because this has been going on for a while. First of all, like, what's happening right now, I've seen this coming, right? As a Palestinian who's living in this world has always been Palestinian, who's talked about these things, we're all like, yeah, no shit this was going to happen.

Yeah. We never imagined it be this dark and complete and utter decimation of a civilian population and bombing of refugee camps and you name it. the videos that I've seen from these doctors are just, they shatter your whole bones. Like everything that's inside of you just feels like it's not real. Nothing feels real. How could anyone do this to another human being on Earth?

Like, how is that even acceptable? Let's just talk about where it is today. Yeah. Pre-October 7th, there is... Well, this is... Gazins that exist, that existed, what do you want to say? Well, this is the thing that I found interesting was how, I guess when I was talking about

how it pertains to time, the way that it's framed now is it's because of October 7th that there's this sort of reaction of why this war in a lot of people's minds, I think most people's minds, genocide, is happening. It is according to every single institution on planet Earth that makes this judgment. It's not even us, it's not you, it's not me.

It's every respected institution that's supposed to make this judgment saying it is. I mean, it's the simplest looking at how, not no one is how over time it's it's basically just become less and less Palestine it's become more and more Israel I mean that's a real yeah sure no that's becoming like you have occupying power that comes in and and then all the Palestinians that are there either get got funneled down to Gaza right or the west bank right and you hear this term Israeli Arabs have you heard this term before yes Israeli Arabs are Palestinians they were allowed to stay within

the Israeli territory and were given citizenship, Israeli citizenship. So not, you know, there's a decent amount of Palestinians that were able to stay in those territories, in the Israeli territory, and they become citizens. Now, still as citizens, they don't have the same rights, right? Because that's one. Second of all, I imagine what the Palestinians are dealing with in the West Bank or in Gaza. West Bank is a whole different thing. Gaza is a complete enclosure.

They can't go anywhere. They can't bring. It's very difficult to bring things in. and out it's like essentially like an open-air prison you can't right go anywhere and these are just they're trying to live regular lives and they can't right so this is this is the way it was set up from the very beginning and it just kept chunks you know to keep taking taking taking taking and then you have this apartheid wall again um it's every institution on planet earth calls this an apartheid wall where people in the west bank Palestinians my people in the west bank are all separated by

walls and they're all very, very strategic and it's enormous. It goes on as far as your eye can see. It is just unbelievable structure. And if your instance, if your house is here and your cousin's house is here, they build the wall right here, you guys can't see each other. Literally across the street, you're not allowed to see each other. And this is what it's led to. All these many, many years of being occupied by the Israeli government and many, many years of subjugation to violence and being secluded. Of course, it's going to create resistance. Of course, it's a natural thing.

Like, this whole idea is just very, very frustrating. And this was, like, very open. If you look at the New York Times article in 1890, they said their plans, the Zionist plan, was to colonize Palestine. In 1890, they said it out loud. Yeah. They're planning to do so before World War II even happened.

So it seems like it's all planned out to occupy this land and to create this narrative that these people are not from here and look at them they're crazy they're terrorists or this and that they're just trying to live and have a normal life in their own lands and they love their land more than anything else you can't take them away from it you know i've never been allowed to live there and have like a full life there if i if i live there i'd be stuck in the same situation that's why my parents when we flood the gulf war we ended up in houston because they know if you want to have a future you have to be outside of of the West Bank.

You can't have a full life inside there because you're so restricted. You can't even go to the neighboring city, the biggest city in Nebless from where we come from, without it taking like two, three hours. And it's only five minutes because of roadblocks, because of all the unpredictability, all the settler violence and things like that that happens.

It's very, very sad, and it doesn't have to be that way. And it's extremely painful. And again, I try to surmise it on a podcast like this. It's not really the best platform. We should have several people. We should have a great conversation and breaking it down and really just having a just a historical rundown of this is what happened at this day.

This is what happened at that date. Like that's what really needs to happen. Right. For it for it to really be understood completely. But it's very, very simple. There's people that came in. They came in as refugees, Palestinian, excepted them. They felt bad for them.

They're fleeing War I, fleeing World War II. They let them come into their homes. They took care of them. They were seeking refuge in a lot of Muslim countries, not just Palestine, which is also a heavily Christian population that still is there today. So people don't even think here in America. Are there Palestinian Christians?

Like, yeah, where did Jesus come from? He didn't come from Europe. He came from Nazareth and Bethlehem. Like that's what it's known. for us. So, you know, there's so many, uh, there's so many like, um, nuanced, not nuances. This is a lot. I don't even like these words. There's just so much information. Right. I don't there's so much catch up. You understand, but I'm talking about whoever's watching this. Like they need to know. There's a lot of catch up. But the bottom line is you have people living

in apartheid situation. You have Muslims that can't walk on certain roads. Palestinians or Christians for that matter. If you're Palestinian, you can't walk on a certain road. You can't go this way. You can't go that way. You can't do anything. you're called the crazy person this is well that's the thing that's the most bullshit in my opinion it's bullshit but you should have you should be able to have logical conversations in the end to get to a proper conclusion if you're not able to have these conversations then what are we doing what's the point of being human yeah that's the whole point is that we can talk about things and come to a conclusion and progress together why do you think now people actually actually able

it seems like now more than ever people are actually able to have these conversations more unfiltered than ever because before it was like if you even said one thing that was against what was happening there one side against one side then you were just like shunned and you couldn't you wouldn't be able to i mean it's interesting in your industry it's like get work gets get special it's like because there's so much pressure from here's the thing man i've i've been doing this 26 years i started off as a little kid in this business and it's like the last you know i would say 10 years has been like the movement right but i was told this like it takes you 20 years for overnight success that's what it is you put in the time we put in the effort especially as a comedian you have to

just work at your craft it doesn't happen overnight and if it's if you get famous really quickly it's usually fast rise fast fall that's how it works and i was always cool with that but i always all thought there was a massive gap in the storytelling there's no world arab world at all and And everyone sees the Arab world as people who are just on, you know, camels riding through the desert and they just look weird and they have, you know, it's just absurd. Like, this is an ancient civilized, ancient language. Or they're terrorists.

Poetry came from there. Medicines come from there. The concept of universities, degrees came from there. Soap, coffee. I mean, my algebra, like, the sophistication that the Islam world has is and the contribution to to the world is unprecedented and for it to be like distilled into Aladdin on a magic carpet you know and Javar is I thought was wild you know and transparently since I was a kid right living through growing up through 9-11 it was like they're just all bad

yeah yeah like that's what you were taught right you were taught that you know the the whole TSA thing it was like because of this. It was because of Muslims. It was because of, you know, middle literacy. And like, I, it's so funny because I, looking back at it now, I'm like, what the fuck? There's just so much media. There's been so much for so long pointed at that group of people in a very negative

light. And what you're saying, like, there's obviously so many contributions. There's so much to the world. I just find it interesting. I find the whole thing very like. Well, it's not, it's not different. any any uh if you want to conquer a particular area in the world you have to dehumanize them that's how that works yeah it went on and you know with japan and southeast asia and everything

else the stories that came out how they look at them how they view them how they are in cinema all this is a very standard i don't find it shocking when i found shocking is that people believe it you know that's the part that's crazy to me people believe just what they see right now even like with the riyadh comedy festival right right there's comedians that went there i went there i did a show there and to me that there's like there's there's several levels to it number one those who accepted it and then came back and apologized for doing it that's crazy okay you went there then the people that went there and came back and I'm like what do you know they left yeah oh shit they they fucking he taught it was 40 yeah they have a sense of humor it's crazy like what do

they're gonna fucking do they're gonna start ooh who what are they gonna do like that's how they react to jokes so that's also like I know what they're saying they don't have like uh it wasn't ill intention in saying that but it's subconsciously like bro that doesn't sound good either like you're surprised they actually had a good time and they're sophisticated enough to understand your dick jokes like yeah yeah they can yeah it's a what are you talking about yeah they do laugh they have a great sense of humor it's one of the oldest storytelling traditions on planet earth yeah comedy and like comedy but no the arab world itself like this is where we come from we tell stories so so that's nice to

me and then and then there's a trust between me and my audience like hey you should trust me to be myself the same person in america in houston where i'm from or wherever i am in the world to be the same i don't go to saudi and be like oh full america you know i don't play this game right and there's comedians that do do that there's people that do that and they think it's funny and this and that and i go there for a different purpose there's someone who comes from my background who's been at this for a long time fans of mine from both from Palestinian backgrounds

from all walks of life that are coming to this show that are seeing me perform as is a historical thing. I'm saying things that they can never say. They didn't know if they could say or even see someone do that. I had so many messages, so many emails I brought my kids.

I'm so glad they got to see you on stage perform. It's such a big deal. You know, it's historical. I want to show them it's possible. That's how you move the thing forward. And it's funny that they focused on comedians in particular when they're all doing business. Everyone's doing business.

The sporting industry from UFC to boxing to football. I mean, Tom Brady's playing a flag football game for $75 million. Man. I mean, yeah. But the comedians, the one who talk the shit, who say the most things, who can push. ultra forward. That's why. But that's the best part. And I'm not saying, that you can push it forward. You're not wrong, but I think that's why. Because that's, in the storytelling, in comedy, there's so

much truth. Because that's how, that's how you make something funny because it's about something real. Yeah, but that's, I thought, this is what they wanted. They wanted it to progress. They wanted to move forward. Well, some people. So if you send people that, that's a whole beef about Sadi's like, hey, these guys are not moving forward. But that's what they're doing. They're bringing communities to show you that they're they're allowed to have their self-expression and to do their thing and they're not going to be hindered and and you know in their comedy and their standard they could do whatever was there a quote today Dave Chappelle said he's more he's like there's more freedom of speech in Saudi than yeah yeah he was saying I can say more things this after the

Charlie Kirk thing yeah he said that on stage yeah you know obviously he's you know he's warning he's throwing like a flare up like a hey you know it kind of feels that way yeah you know he's There was a sense of truth to it and there was sense of sarcasm to it. That's how I understood it. You know? It was that. It was more like,

I'm making a joke. It's getting wild out here in America. I don't know if I can say this. It feels like I can say this here more than I can there. Yeah. And from him, that's pretty funny because he's, he's one of the pioneers of just saying whatever the fuck you want.

Yeah, exactly. Especially in comedy. Being very honest and transparent. Yeah, absolutely. And going for that 100%. 100%. I think that's the way I understood what he was saying with that particular comment. And I also think it's kind of unfair for comedians in this case where, you know, sometimes you're just working through the material and somebody will be there and they'll just record something or write something when it's not completely fleshed out.

Like to me, whenever I release the album, which is the special, then judge that. Go for it. You know, dissect that, go into that, break that, you know, go ahead, do your thing with that. I don't mind that. That's what I intend to do it. But imagine, like, walking into a studio while a musician is. like in the middle of writing his song and then you go review his song this song's a piece of shit he hasn't released it yet yeah you know he hasn't even put it out yet you have to like

be patient but i think that we're in this reactionary you know kind of world where we just want to oh this is provocative right this is a headline yeah this is good people to look at it so i think that until you know he releases his special whatever he's working on if he's going to do that um that's when you can judge it and look at it and review it and whatever you you want away about it. But that's what art's supposed to do, man. It's supposed to make you uncomfortable. It's not supposed to just make you laugh all the time.

And yes, that's one of the most important jobs of a comedian. You gotta make them laugh. But you also, the great ones all made you think. Every single one that's revered. Today in history, it's absolute fact. They also make you think. Sometimes make you cringe. Sometimes make you feel uncomfortable.

But you have to feel something other than like, just laughing out of your head. And then you walk out. I don't even know what the guy said. I don't even remember one joke. Yeah. Or maybe this thing I really liked. But you don't remember.

It all feels like the same type of experience. When you walk away with something, you're like, you're really reflective, but you had a great time. And there's some emotionality attached to it. You just, that sticks with you. That's real, to me, that's like real art. 100%. Yeah. All right, guys, quick and order for the podcast, Factor Meals.

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that? Like to even get to a platform like Netflix? Um, no, when I pitched the show is very, very, captivating like the way I pitched it and I put it together and it was I thought it was great by the way thank you man thank you I was like is this real is this real it is some of it felt real you know some of it when I was doing it it was really fucking hard because I was like recreating like old moments for my life

or some cases you know those who are no longer with me like my grandmother or my grandfather or you know what I mean like that shit is or my dad it's just really difficult to like and you directed that too recreate I directed three episodes and Slick directed the others and he and I worked

together hand in hand to fulfill my vision and stuff like that but and he was very cool about like walking me through like how did you imagine this and how do he he was really like tapped in to try to create my vision and I'm very like I love him so much he's a great great dude and yes I did um but yeah it's very much based around my life I mean there's some aspects of it that clearly that are fictionalized just to just to give me something to play as a performer and to be able to push me a little bit further much further actually at the dig deep I've never been that vulnerable on camera or anything like that i'm a comedian bro like to cry on camera it's like what is that you know what i don't know what that feels like so it was really um i was self-conscious

a little bit because you tap into things and memories of your father's not there with you anymore and you're trying to you know pay homage to him and tip the hat to him and and making sure that you do this right it's a ton of pressure and you want to make sure you do it justice you do him justice and and you kind of like uh put your emotionality on display and be so open and all these like really diverse characters within the show itself not just me and and kind of make sure that you you communicate exactly what you want and you tell a great story you make people laugh you make them cry and that's what i wanted to do and we did that you know yeah i feel like i did that i mean i feel like episode eight of season two is one of the greatest i mean objectively episodes of television

you know with everything that's going on the background background how have everyone, you know, was pushing for me to talk about October 7th, and I thought it was a trap, you know, like if I, if I, because the whole episode, for those who haven't watched it, the last episode of season two, we all go to Palestine. So if we talked about October 7th, then that episode doesn't happen. They don't get to go.

That was filming in Malta, though, right? That was, some of it was filmed in Malta, and, like, the major scenes were filmed there, but all the cutaways were actually our village. Like, everything was my family village. What's it about Burin, yeah, okay. So, because we obviously couldn't go, because it still can it go.

Yeah. But yeah, so, you know, the intention was like, if we did that, if we did talk about the 7th, then it makes it look like that everything started on October 7th. You don't have the context of everything that happened beforehand. So it was really important for me to focus on the characters. And every time we started to write scripts and put them together in a post-October 7 world, it was really didactic and you didn't really understand what each character was going through. It became like you, me, you, like, you, like, you, like, you know, this kind of.

kind of, and I was like, this is not the show I want to make. This is not what I'm trying to do. And so, you know, and there's nothing that's going to stop me from having that finale that I wanted, which is like really seeing that whole world of my experience going to the West Bank and visiting my family. And it was beautiful, man, I was just, it's the one of the, I feel like I, you know, fulfilled a big purpose in my life with that.

Yeah. But did you ever get pushed back when you were like, when you go to produce these things or put these things? out to they're like, oh, I can't talk about this, shouldn't talk about that. Yeah, they told me I better not do anything. I'm just kidding. It was one of those things. Like, how can you stop it?

You know, like, I'm a palest to, like, how can you stop my own personal experience? This is what I went through. This is what I'm doing. This is the best version of the story. And to be honest, when we pitched the set, because you build out the whole season, and then you sit down, you and you, and my writer Harris, we would get together. And we pitched the whole season to them before you start, like, writing. it out it's like the process yeah and we did that before the writing strike five months before

october 7th happened i already had it fleshed out the whole season and um and they told us there's like this is the best pitch we've ever had any television show pitch ever like in their experience i was like fuck yeah we're going that doesn't mean like you don't go through production things and like maybe you shouldn't do this don't do this don't do that or there was nothing external about this no no no it was good it was honestly honestly really really good and there was like some discussions again one october 7th happened and you know and we started to experiment with going down that route we all agreed like this is not it it's not the show it's not a it turns into like a full-blown drama it's not we don't even have enough time it's a half hour comedy like this is not yeah

how are you going to cover all this with that like no no no stick to the characters to what people love be in the stay in the pocket you know don't want a pocket stay in the pocket and then take it all the way to episode 8 and that'll bring it home and then people understand it and then you know we end on october 6 very very deliberately i wanted to do that you know yeah yeah i want to talk about your father passing a little bit he passed in your 14 yeah yep and he how did he die heart attack he had heart attack and he was in the hospital for like three weeks fighting you know and then he just started having organ failure and things like that he passed So you were mainly raised by your mother?

Yes. I feel like I'm raised by women mostly. My mom definitely. And then my aunts and like just incredible women that I've, you know, my sister. Yeah. So everything that you do, like what's the, what's your end goal? Is it to leave like a message, a purpose to show like your family or the audience, the fans? You know, my, I've been really impacted by this thing.

teacher said name your great-grandfather from your father's side and I struggled to do this many years ago and I struggled to name him I had names but I didn't know if he was a great-grandfather a great-great-great-grandfather because Arabs are obsessed with lineage that's why we have so many names yeah so you can trace back where you come from right and I couldn't name him he goes how sad is that this is who you come from and you can't even name him how easily are you erased yeah like fuck that couldn't be more true and then he said if you want to be remembered you know there's really two things that you can do

they fall under these two buckets number one you'd be some kind of inventor influenced culture in some big way artist you know something iPhones discover phone electricity these things you could you know you'll be remembered

and how old were you when you had this conversation probably like 10 years ago 15 years ago yeah something like that and then but I've always had it in me but I didn't have the words right I've always understood this

but never really had the words to articulate it now sometimes you have the meaning but you don't know the words or how to put it together for sure you're like I know what this is but what is it's a feeling more so

and then the second thing is you can just be a saint an amazing human being within your community you'll never be forgotten right either transcend that where you become so big

and globally known or you'll never be forgotten within your own community I was like oh that's just cool and for me it's always about that like it's how what kind of mark do you leave who are you inspiring after you and remembering those that paved the way for you beforehand if you can do that in some way in my art and if i found stand-up as a nine-year-old kid and i i knew immediately i was going to be a comedian like immediately i was like oh this is what i'm

how do you know that i just in my gut bro i knew 100 percent i remember looking at my brother who was like oh we're watching and i was like oh i'm going to be a comedian like this is what I'm going to do. And he looked at me like, oh, no, you don't get it. This is what I'm supposed to do. And then four years later, my father passes. And I started skipping school and then, oh, my God, rest of the soul. I was skipping school and, like, living like, Ferris Bueller's day off. And, you know, just kind of, I'm dead set to stop caring about everything. And then my teacher changed my life. She says, don't you want to be a comedian? How would your father feel if you don't graduate? And I was like, oh, my God. Like, I come from a, you know, educated family.

It would be really awful to not do that. And she just, straightened me out. I started doing stand-up in school. She said, don't skip anymore. I let you do stand-up in class. And then she took me to the theater arts department. And it was like, this kid's doing all these accents. I think he belongs here. And then I, you know, I became like an honorary thespia and graduate with honors. I was like so excited. You know, I was like, she changed my life. And I just wanted to stand-up. And I knew when I had to the stand-up world that there was a huge gap in like in this storytelling. And, and I could really contribute something that is timely and timeless. And I just need to be patient and

be ready when it happens yeah you know and that's what it was and i wanted to do that and i thought that like when i was writing the show this is very relatable number one you know dealing with loss um struggle uh identity figuring out what you want to do how do you navigate those things in your heart and your spirit and your mind and um i thought it was just a really interesting thing to go in and really push myself to to discover it you know and it was scary at first but after i did did season one i went head first into season two i was like let's go all the way let's go all the way let's talk about as much as we can without it being forced and um have these you know elements within the show and i thought the dream sequences was a great way to like break the mold and be

kind of surreal in my storytelling and allow me to be creative in the cinematography and and how i want to communicate and you could also have like flashbacks within the dream sequences and that would be interesting to kind of get into his psyche and his spirituality and where he is and what he's thinking about and bring it together in episode eight and that's what I wanted to do and we did that yeah you said something earlier about your your great-grandfather grandfather being my grandfather not knowing not knowing how to name him oh my great-grandfather yeah and uh you're i guess was your teacher said that then you don't even know where you come from essentially right yeah my spirit it's interesting uh it's like how easily you

erased he said this is who you come from and you can't name them how easily are you erased it's very jarring because you think about it like roomy one of the greatest poets to ever exist if not the greatest poet probably the most revered and written about poet to ever exist on earth has a Twitter account he's been dead a thousand years he has a Twitter account he's tweeting from the grave right now yeah well that's what I'm saying like that's the kind of impact you could have where people are still quoting you over a thousand years later after your death yeah that's that's legendary yeah beyond legendary yeah it's transcending time you know yeah it's fucking beautiful yes but on that on that point it's it's going back to sort of the

palisine thing it's interesting there there was this whole push to i don't know if it's certain political commentators people saying that like this place doesn't even exist it was something that really said out to me that i've heard at least i know charlie kirk said it to someone who came up to him and asked him. He was asking him a question on like one of those open form things. And he's like, I'm a Christian and I'm Palestinian. And Charlie's like, where, you know, crisis king, whatever he said to him. But where is, what do you mean your palace?

Like, where is that? That's one of the, that, I know we're kind of going back to that a little bit, but that was one of the weirdest. Because I've, before, like, before any of this stuff became a thing that, you know, someone in, like something in your world, you're Palestinian. You always talk about it. You probably always think about it. Your family members.

Yeah, I'm Palestinian. Right. Someone in my world, I've had friends that I've known for 10, 15 years that they have the same lineage. So I've talked to them about these things way before it was a big talking point on the internet. And to hear, you know, rest in peace, Charlie Kirk, but a really big political pundit say, you know, that's not real. What does that even mean? It's just, it's a, like when you talk about the erasing of a people, it's just, it's weird. It's weird. It's very weird.

And it's, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's not weird. It's, um, it's worse than weird. That's not the right. It's like, yeah, it's because we're not finding the words. So you're just saying weird. But let me tell you something. Um, you know, regarding Charlie Kirk or whatever. I just, it's a terrible, you should never suppress speech in that way. Like, it doesn't matter. To me, it's like, you can say whatever you want, but you can't, like, to a degree, you know, you can't, like, obviously, what you can say. could also harm a bunch of people you should be thoughtful about your words at the same time like it's not about if you get into a thing like you can say this but you can't say that you can say this but don't say that you can no you just need more free speech you know you just need more speech to counteract it you need to have a space where you can have real debates and come to conclusions to think the way you want to fucking think without harming each other without being crazy like that's the bottom line on that and palestine of course exists existed for many many years there's

four cities in America named Palestine where did the name come from right it's just that's just like it's a it's a it's a it's really really um hurtful you know i'm palestinian for someone says what is that that doesn't exist the fuck are you talking about that's um that's who i am it's my culture it's everything that is that i love that um from the from the hospitality to the food to this land to you know it's just um it's who i am like you're telling me that I don't exist and you're saying it out loud it's more of anti it's like antagonizing someone you know like on purpose you're trying to make them ruffle their feathers and go what are you talking about what are the palisdrian you know they want that reaction yeah

and I'm not I'm not playing into that bullshit you know everybody knows it's just tell me it's insane though man it's intended it's intended to create this illicit this reaction that I refuse to play into and and hopefully I'm much smarter than that I don't you want to that bullshit. It's like all about like, you know, I have nothing, nothing against Jewish folks. I have nothing against my Jewish brothers and sisters. I have great relationships across the board. Right. But when you get into this like argument about you exist, I don't exist, you don't exist, you don't deserve to exist, do I get it right to, we're all existing, bro. It's all about how we communicate and how we are with one another.

and then also like acknowledging that this murdering of and decimation of a civilian population is just wrong yeah that's not like how is that how is that how is that like a a you know like saying ceasefire and not killing kids early on was like seen as like anti-semitic like what the fuck are you talking about i don't want anybody to die i don't want anyone to get killed i don't want that's not a bad thing they were going after miss rachel this woman dedicates her entire life to helping kids read and speak and so similarly like how are you guys attack she's saying don't kill kids kids deserve to like have food water and shelter the basic human things yeah and she's getting attacked like it's it's uh people are crazy man but i do believe

that the vast majority of human beings are, you know, agree with that, what I just said, which is like everyone should have food, water, shelter, should be, you know, it's a human, basic human right to have, you know. I just, it's, the craziness is when the, the relationship of, you know, when someone's talking from that perspective and they're just saying, like, well, they're all bad. Like, all these people are bad. Like, they'll go from like the Hamas to like, well, it's almost as if in their mind these kids are already Hamas these kids are already terrorists it's like what the fuck are you talking about like what like what's it's a very weird I guess from my perspective because I'm not deep deep in it but I look and I read all this stuff I see and I'm just like it's a very clear effort to you know make people believe erase an entire people yeah it's it just it's make you want them to think like yes they all are you know

know insane human beings and and that are bad they're all like animals and we should wipe them up and somebody could be watching this and going yes i agree with this fucking crazy for anybody to think that of any human being is is is a is a is a massive loss for entire entirety of humanity there's like no way around it's um i don't even know what to say to that i don't live that way that's not the people i surround myself with that's not the way i think you know and it's It's just, you know, it's, look, driving fear into the hearts of society is part of, like, conquering the world, right? Yes. So those people who have all the power are driving, you know, people with no money, for the most part, in America.

Like, they're driving these people into, like, having these extreme thoughts and ideology so they can hate in other people so they can keep getting the funding that they need and keep spending this money that they, that they, that they're. want to use to keep conquering other places in the world, in particular talking about the Middle East Arab countries in Palestine. So you have to have them hate them and think that they're crazy. Yeah. You can't do those things if they go, oh, you know, they're Christians. Yeah. What? Yeah. They believe in G. Even the Muslims believe in Jesus. What? Yeah. Even the Muslims look after the Holy Church in Nazareth. What? Muslims are taking care of. Yep, they get up every morning and they open it up because Christians can't get along and the only the only entrusted family that they that's been there for over a thousand years is that key has been with a Muslim family

that looks after a Christian church yeah they can't they can't have you believe that yeah then like oh no that ruins the entire illusion that they're crazy and their animals and they're just these are just you know it's like that that's just it's um it's a fucking game yeah it's a whole big game is being played at a very high level and I you know people understand it now more than ever and that's going back to your question like why is it such a big thing now I've been saying for a while I've been doing it I've been living it's who I am and now everyone is just starting to catch up that's all yeah and my hope is my hope my real real and sincere hope is that everyone truly comes to their senses and uh people in the west bank or Palestinians in the West bank

and Gaza can go back to having uh better lives than they've ever had before and to really open things up and to get rid of this apartheid wall and apartheid living and to really have the freedoms to build and develop and to be you know uh and have futures of their own that's my just be fucking sovereign man bro be fine yeah everything would be fine yeah everything will be fine there's plenty for everybody stop yeah just stop do you know Palestinians live freely stop they're living in the own lands like stop stop stop please now that's your hope do you do you think that's

like going to be a reality I don't know man the whole world seems to be going down the shitter so I'm really hoping not I'm really hoping that it does happen obviously what I was just said does happen but I don't know I don't know I hope that cooler heads prevail I hope that you know that the pressure of the world and everything you know really um winds over and and we get to see that come to life but i don't know i don't know yeah i really don't know so going back the only thing i control is myself and and how i behave in the world and how i move and it's the only thing you can control i don't know about anything else everything else is in god's hands that's a thought yeah going back to the special a little bit um

fuck dj call it huh yeah honestly one of the greatest openings of any special i'm sorry With that fucking lead up, nobody's done that with the heart opening to fuck DJ Khalid, yes. Yeah, why do you, like, why do you think there are people like that who basically got the same exact blood as you decide to just not say anything ever? I don't know why he hasn't decided to say anything ever. I was just like, you know, look, the duty of a comedian,

I said duty, the duty of a comedian is to... It's to basically, you know, talk about things that everyone's thinking that they're not saying out loud, potentially, and observe those things that are happening around you. And that's why I did that in the special. It's like, yes, and also, like, what's wrong with you? Like, why are you? Because I know in 2021, when they were bombing Gaza back then, he did do a post, like for two seconds. He had a post, had a Palestinian flag. I don't know if you ever saw it. He had a Palestinian flag. He said, thinking of my people. And then the thing got ripped down quickly. So I remember that happened.

So I don't know what's going on behind there, but to me, that, that bit of opening up that way and then I give him a chance at the end. I'm actually, I'm actually giving him an opportunity to fix it. Whether people will believe it or not or whatever, most likely they won't, and it won't do any good probably. So that's why he's still, like, sticking with this thing. The thing that's so grotesque about it is that not only did he not, like, say anything, like, is thinking of my people, please stop, you know. I hope, you know, cooler heads can prevail. We all need to, you know, whatever. You can fucking say something.

Right. Anything just to say that and then move on. At least do that, right? So he didn't do that, but then he doubled down and be like eating up buffets and fucking in the Bahamas and a crazy amount of food and close up, close up, close up, close up. And then opens up a fridge full of ice cream where people are starving. I'm like, bro, you know, come on. Like, that's not the move.

That's being completely unaware. So I think people just got angry. and angrier and angrier and all I was it was like a release valve right all that tension I was able to release all that tension I said the thing that everybody was thinking but didn't really say out loud especially not in front of many many you know hundreds of thousands of people around the world and my shows and yeah and now to millions of people on Netflix but it was intended to be that and and and that's why I said it at the end of the special and that within the time bit it was like you know you know um you know my mom said said, if you love me, show me. And that's why I'm so upset with DJ Caled. People start to laugh. I was like, no, no. He's in these unprecedented times

instead of being with the times, he's behind the times. And for this guy is always dinner time. I know, I know it's a fat on fat crime. I didn't want to say it. You know who put it in my heart? God did, you know. So that's why I'm just giving him,

I'm also offering him an opportunity to like respond. He can shit on me and say whatever you want. Or he could be like, like, yes, this is wrong. That's what I'm going through. Or he could do nothing at all, you know. But then he could be helping quietly, and we don't even know. Like, we don't really know.

So it's important to, like, not fully, you know, brush him off. But also, it doesn't even matter. Like, it doesn't matter. It's just wildly disappointing. But people don't even know his Palestinian, which I think it's freaking weird, you know? Yeah. It's kind of fucking weird. Yeah.

I think his name was, like, Arab attack or something. Yeah, it was. DJ Arab attack. It was. It's really funny He said fuck I got to rebrand this Yeah After 9-11

What are we going to do Yeah Another one No that's not good For the after 9-11 either Oh my God No he's He's uh

I don't know bro He speaks in like Like I don't know He speaks in like Caches Catch phrases You know I had somebody meet

Like That's met him a friend of mine He's a hip hop artist At Canada And I want to say his name Because he can give him a pressure to talk about. I'm going to do it anyway. But he's like, he met him in Mali's and he was like,

bro, the whole year you've been saying God did, God did, God did. Now you're like 45 minutes away from Mecca. You should go thank God for all these Grammy Noms and all the love you're getting. And his response was, incredible. There's no way that's real. I swear to God. There's no way. I swear to God. I swear to God. He just goes, incredible. And that was it. There's no way that's real. That's real. You're fucking trolling me. I swear. He has this. like very heartfelt thing he was like bro it's beautiful what you're doing you should go thank god and it's that he goes incredible

and he said he didn't say anything afterwards he just walked away there's no way that's a real person yeah and it was funny because I was there at the time not in that conversation but I was there and there was like these true you can go to mecca like I'm a believing Muslim bro I want to go

and I want to have like the moment I want to be filmed or I don't want to do it as I'm not doing it for that I'm going there like naked literally and just want to be naked. I want to go. I want to cry. I want to pray to God. I don't want to think about things.

I want to search. Whatever is going on my heart. I want to have it without a camera. So the next thing I know I see the effort. He tells me the story. He does go to Mike Tyson. And they invited me to go. I could have been in that situation.

Yeah. And I was like, no, I want to go. Just really go. I want to really go. In middle of the night, you know, where it's not busy. Like, it's just me with the guy, this beautiful thing. And he did go. He did go.

And he did go. And he filmed it with Tyson and all that stuff. It was weird. It was like kind of weird, but, you know, again, we live like we say Allah, Adam. We don't know what's in his heart. Only God knows what's in his heart. So my decision complete, but also like, yeah, fuck you deserve to take that. You know, you got to take that.

Yeah. You have to. You can't come back and be like, no, it's army of people. And everyone knew he was Palestinian, he had to send him this kind of weird, find that kind of interesting, you know, not to say anything. Or even he's not a, like, look, we're not political commentator. I'm surely not a political commentary. That's not what I do. Right.

I'm a community. I get it. You're not equipped to do it. That's fine. Just say, this is horrible. I hope it stops. You know, it's killing my heart.

It's killing my family. I don't want to ever see this. I don't want to ever see a kid go through this. That's all you have to say. Yeah. You tap out and you go. But then that's just like the whole conversation just goes back to, well, why are they not saying it?

And it's just because they feel pressure from the outside source somewhere. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. That's only he can speak about that. Right. You know, and I'm not going to get, you know, I don't like, you know, just trying to make assessments and come to some conclusions that maybe not true at all.

Like, I don't want to do that. It's between him. Yeah. And God and his family because, you know, for me, I have a son now, and I want my son to know, like, hey, you got to know the difference between right and wrong and you got to say something you can't just be quiet. Like I, in our tradition, it's like, if you see something terrible happening in front of you, okay, you should try to, if you can fix it, like, physically.

fix it, that you have the highest faith. If you can't fix it, like, physically do something about it, say something about it. Right. And if you can't do either of those things, hate it in your heart. Just hate what happened, you know, just hate that. And if you don't do those two things, fix it physically or say something to try to fix it, and you just hate it in your heart, that is the weakest of faith. You consider it to be the weakest person of faith. That's interesting. That's written.

Yeah, that's from an Islamic teaching. That's from the Sunnah. To hate it in your, to hate it. Yeah, like if there's, if there's kids, like for instance, Gaza, right? Yeah. You can't physically be there to fix it and save these kids. So you have to say something

about, hey, this is wrong. You can't kill kids. You can't kill innocent men, women, and children. Like, you can't do this. Stop. Yeah. Okay. Not saying anything and just hating the act of killing, for instance. You're right.

That's at least, the very least do that. That's what I'm saying. And those who just do the bare minimum, that's the one who has the least of faith. I see what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely. Like if you're walking down the street and you see this guy just pummeling his wife,

he's just punching his wife, just beating her up. You got to stop that. You've got to fucking stop that, right? You're just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on, right? You got to stop that. And the very least say something, hey, the fuck are you doing?

stop yeah but if then you look at it and go oh i hate this you go off yeah that's what i'm saying it's pretty weak this for example it's kind of an extreme examples but yeah that's what i mean it's like that's have you have you always been practicing a practicing muslim look practicing is very hard i'm not perfect yeah yeah i'm not perfect i'm a believing muscle for sure yeah i believe uh very very strongly i've had um you know very deep spirit spiritual experiences, you know, and I'm a believer. What that means is, I believe in God. I believe your incomprehension of God is your comprehension of God.

Your inability to describe what God is. I've never heard anyone say that. Yeah, that's how it was described to me. Because how are you going to describe God? Infinite thing. Like, you'll be here all the rest of your life. You'll die and he's still not finished. No, I love that.

You know? Your incomprehension of God is your comprehension of God. beyond your anything that you could ever fathom dude they took a picture in the solar system I think it's like an inch I think it's like an inch I don't know if you research this or not pull it up

so what is this is the Hubble ultra deep field yeah yeah this is a telescope over a year period it took a picture I think like an inch like a little inch spot in space and they uncovered over 10,000 galaxies called the Hubble ultra deep field

10,000 galaxies we live in a galaxy right now, 10,000 in, like an inch in the sky. Yeah. So you want to talk about God, bro. Like, what are you talking about? This is infinite.

Yeah. What is in that? And in the Quran, it always says, Lord of the Worlds. You know, it's never like... With an S? Yeah, it's never, like, in that translation, obviously.

Right. It's always translated in that way. I mean, this the... You look at smaller than one-mm piece of paper held by one way and the equal roughly 1.26 millionth of the total area of the sky.

Bro, short-circuiting right now. You can't even fathom what that means. Exactly. Exactly. It's like, you believe in God is a man of sky. Get the hell out of here, bro. God is not a man.

You can't even understand what it is. Yeah. Can't even like fathom it. And we make all this shit so serious down there. It's like, what are you talking about? Nobody knows. It's that that's what it is.

I'm very much so I believe I believe in Islam meaning that that I submit to the will of God and that I know that I am you know just a human being trying to figure it out in this realm of existence yeah in that with that mentality does that not feel sometimes futile like do you not does it not make you feel like obviously I understand the idea of submitting to the will of God but in this like complete infinite almost i mean damn near right it is absolutely infinite it's like it never ends yeah is it does it ever make you feel more powerless well that's the point isn't it you know it's actually powerful to know that but also like you know like you don't have power over anything you just can control what's in front of you

even it's our said uh it's said that like even if the world is ending if you see the world ending in front of you and you're planting a seed, finish planting it. There's nothing you can do. Go ahead and finish that off. It's all right. You know, there's nothing absolutely you can do. So you have to just keep pushing forward and moving forward. There's no way around it. As a matter of fact, you have to. It's like part of your belief in God.

You just got to keep going. Must. Yeah. Can't stop. And you understand that this life, it's called Dunya. For Muslims, it's called Dunia. This is the second, like, life that we live. and this dunya is also translates to low in arabic so dunya means low because arabic words have trilateral roots so dunya this is like the lowest level of existence

oh and whenever i bring that up to dave whenever shappelle whenever i bring it up to him he's like yeah we poop and piss here bro it's gross you know what so then what's the what's the higher version so there's like okay so there's consider five lives to man the first life is hiatus excuse me there's five lives to man first wife first wife jeez yeah it is first wife second wife third way four what are you thinking about moe miras yeah what you do it what you do it no so there's the first life which is a ala mil arwaa which is planet of souls again

what does that look like what does that mean you know yeah we have no idea but sometimes you meet someone and you're like bro i feel like i've known you forever a hundred percent real 100% like, well, it's very possible that you interacted in that other realm. You have no idea, you know? So when you're born into this, like the moment you exit your mother, that is your second life. It's when you're so somehow, again, I'm not God. Nobody knows how this works, but you're into this life in this realm of existence. Your third life is Hayatil Barzach, which is the moment you're buried into the grave.

that is considered to be a whole other life so you have to live and now there's I'm not a scholar clearly I'm giving very basic information but for instance like your deeds will follow you into the grave you've heard this like the things that you do

on this earth will fall into the grave so if you're a real piece of shit your grave might feel like the worst absolute unfathomable type of environment that you can ever be in. This is like the concept of like heaven

in hell sort of a Christian. Not yet. No, not yet. So this is just a whole other life that you will live essentially in this grave. Again, whatever, you know, how it takes place or other realm, how your soul exists in this place.

That's why it's very important for Muslims. Those are Jewish people do this too where they bury right away. So for Muslims is the same thing. It's better to be buried in the same day. Very latest the next day. Unless there's like foul play, there was a murder.

god forbid or they need to do some kind of autopsy to find whatever surely there's like you know it's very logical religion you know so it's uh intended to um for those reasons so then you can you know prolong it but it's very important for the soul to go in right away very very important is a cleaning process as all there's there's no casket inside of another casket this is crazy like i don't even know why people do this like it's probably a money thing but what are you talking about Like it's just an absurd thing to just want to be put in a casket, another casket. Then they have to actually put like a cement thing on top of you. So imagine how crazy it is.

And I want to wear a suit, like my favorite suit. Like, dude, just get in there. So for Muslims, you have to be washed a certain way. Yeah. Cleanse a certain way. Prayed on a certain way. An oil with no alcohol in it, like a smell good. And a white cloth.

A white cloth. Like a lavender? You could do lavender, I think. Is that what you like? I love it, yeah. You can have Lounder, put it in your will, bro. Put it in your will. And you wrap with a cloth that's not stitched.

It's pure, you know, cloth. And then you wrapped in that, and that's it. Everyone is buried that way with your face or head towards Mecca. And that's it. You're buried that way on your right side. I never knew that. Yeah. And it's all.

You're buried right into the dirt. Right into the dirt. There's no casket, other casket inside of another casket, clothing, put in this. No. You have to be washed and. purified. How was this the first time I've ever heard of this? I think most people don't know this. Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck?

Yeah. So that's how you go in right into the dirt. Is you're supposed to? You come from this, go back to it. Yeah. Yeah. That's how you go. And, uh, yeah, and that's it. It's over. And that's your third life, Hayat al Barzach. And the third, the fourth life, excuse me, is the day of judgment, which will feel like a thousand years or something like that, a thousand days. So like you're on DMT. Yes. I have no idea with that. Like, oh my God. Have you ever taken any drugs?

No, nothing like that. Nothing. I keep my drugs vegan. Yeah, I'm very. So, so mushrooms. I'm very weed and mushroom. Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's it.

Well, ayahuasca is of a plan. I can't do that. It's vegan. I'm not doing it. Yeah, it's vegan. I've done it three times. You've done it three times.

Have you seen the other side? Yeah, I got one time. Yeah. How would I describe it? You have to do it with some kind of person, right? Yes. Yeah. I did it like ceremonially.

I didn't just like take fucking drugs. That's not one of all of those. I knew it wouldn't be a good situation if I just did that. I did it with a shaman, and I did in a way that was like, you know, incrementally and ceremonially, like with a purpose, with intention, trying to figure out, you know, certain things in my life, you know, personal to me that I wanted to sort of understand better. Interesting.

But there is a weird moment of when I was sort of at the peak, I guess you would say, of this experience that you feel very, I don't even know how else to describe it, but one, like every, thing is almost one like life and death almost existing in the same it is the same exact the same timing and it's and it's okay you just convert to Islam and I'd had all this uh extra lots of stuff and come to the same conclusion man for me like I don't I'm so scared like I don't trust who's putting me under you know what I mean like you know you look at the surgeons before you go to sleep like yeah I don't know what child going to do but all right I'm just gonna

go I never I just feel weird I just don't know whose intentions or what I just kind of feel weird about that i get it yeah i just but i but i also get why people try it and try to you know do that i'm i'm just it's not for me my mind is i'm scared of my mind i already have like a really really expressive and and just i just think you so differently i don't know i just get worried like i get that in my short circuit i might be a different person after i don't want yeah i see what you're saying or maybe i want to do that i don't know you've done mushrooms i have yeah I have it's similar to that. It's kind of similar to that. I don't know. I've heard the stories on ayahuasca.

It feels very, very different. That's what everyone that tries to pitch me, I was like level one. Let me do it. Yeah, level one, bro. Yeah, exactly. It's fucking level 100. Yeah, it is. It is. Yeah, I'm not doing that. It is. Like, no, I'll just wait until I die. You know what I'm saying? I'll see what that's like where I get there and do as much. Hopefully, as many, many, many, many years from now. But yeah, that's, yeah, anyway, four.

life is is the day of judgment the fifth is heaven or hell again whatever these look like you know yeah we know what hell is hell is hell yeah it's not good hell is hell is hell is terrible place have you ever been afraid of dying um i think the fear around dying for me is not seeing like my son grow up or being around for my mother and things like that just seeing her lose you know my brother and sister like i don't want i god forbid i don't want to see it you know that's the part that don't i don't wish that i think that's what i think about more uh but i don't really fear i don't fear like the actual that side no what i fear is that i didn't do enough yeah you know that's what i fear it's not the actual act uh especially just having a sudden now just changes

the whole game man yeah changed the whole game like i need to be here for you bro and that's what I that's what I'm consumed by to be honest yeah yeah is it is it leaving something for him or showing him something yeah I do I leave him messages all the time like when I'm on tour I have a videographer and stuff but no but I mean the fear of losing obviously you don't want to I just want to see him I just want to see what he does like in the physical form yeah I don't know if I'm able to get to like zip through a black hole when I'm going and let me go check on him real quick you know I don't know yeah but I would love to just

that in person. You know, I always just think of my father being able to see me like doing these big venues and, you know, fulfilling this dream. I just think you'd be over the moon. You'd be like, oh, my God. I'll just having my mom see it. And, and that's what I knew when I was famous. As an immigrant, this is how you know you're famous, is when your mom receives a message and it's a video of me, but they don't even know that she's my mom. Right? They're like forwarding something to her. Oh, yeah. Did you see this? Bro, I'm WhatsApp famous. That's crazy.

What's that famous is the most famous you can get at my family. That's crazy. It circulates on that. Somebody needs to quantify all the, like, WhatsApp views. Nobody talks about that. You know what I'm saying? The WhatsApp views. Yeah, like nobody.

We have YouTube trackers and stuff, but those WhatsApp views for immigrants, crazy. So someone had sent something to your mother, like, look at this piece of content. Yes. And it's like, that's my son. It's a piece of the special. Yeah, she didn't respond as my son.

She was like, oh, my God, somebody sent this to me. They don't even know that you're my son. I was like, and I said to my mom, isn't that amazing? She's like, yeah, that is amazing. I was like, what's really amazing is that I came out of you. So you're actually the one that's dope. That's blessing. You know?

It's dope. Yeah, you've done a lot, man. Like, genuinely. Bro, from nothing. I'm so grateful. I'm so, so grateful, bro. So much more to do. So much more to accomplish.

So much more to write and, like, put together. I'm like, I'm really, really excited about it. What do you attribute it to? What do you think it take? Like, like, obviously, your whole life is what it took, but if someone watching this from your shoes or, you know, someone similar to

your shoes, obviously, they're not your shoes, your shoes are unique. But what do you think it takes for someone to be able to do, like, what you've done to the level that you've done it? The patience, bro, and pushing through and belief, like, it really has to be your destiny. Like, it's clearly like my destiny. Everyone that doubted me

maybe, there's not, like, in my friend group, there's only a few like, are you sure about this, you know, this and that when I first started as a teenager? Yeah. But once you fulfill a particular destiny and was like damn that was true that thing was right so you have to make sure like you're honest with yourself along the way and to understand like not let your ego get in the way of accomplishing what your true destiny is yeah some people think like this is what I'm supposed to be doing and then there's so many signs along the way they showed them they should be like you know

a great writer a great filmmaker a great this but they want to be a comedian or they want to do this or whatever it is and they may be missed out on what their thing is so I love that you said that because I feel like that's one of the most common things that specifically young men deal with like finding purpose. How do you know what to listen? Like how did you navigate that? Like how did you know which ways to go? I had great mentors.

Like when I first started stand up, it was in high school and then I had my theater of teachers that taught me like performance, stage presence, understanding how to communicate, look, sing even, you know, fucking dance. I didn't know how to do shit. I still was doing it. I was like, well, this is wild.

And then from, there went into stand-up and then I met my stand-up mentor who took me under his wings who mentored a lot of great comedians that went on to have a great successful careers you know Ralphie Mae yeah we had the same mentor Tishon Shannon was also one of his mentors who went on to write

for SNL for like 10 years and then Shia Nevada who had an HBO special who was like a ton of people that were in his orbit that he gave like you know his opinions on and gave him his like mentorship that went on to have great careers respectable careers and when I was 17

I walked in this club. I did stand up. He walked me outside. He said, listen, he took me outside right away. He was really excited. He got real,

pumped up. And of course, I got pumped up because I'm like, here's a club owner, a guy that's been in the game a long time, like seeing me

for what I believe I'm supposed to be doing. Yeah. He grabs me. He goes, listen, I'm going to teach you everything I know about staying up. And he literally mapped out

my entire career. He said by the time you're this age, you're going to be touring the States. By the time you say, you probably do shows overseas. You'll be headless. lining by a time you're 21, 22, and then you'll, you know, you'll get better and better and stronger, you'll get a special and they're familiar, you get a TV show. He literally mapped

out my entire career. He goes, and if you don't listen to me, I'm not going to waste my fucking time. He goes, but it's going to take you 20 years for overnight success. Are you in? I said, yes, I'm in. And that was it. And he taught me everything I used to know about stand. And then you just start climbing on the ranks and then people take you on tour. Oh, he's funny. And then you become too funny. And they're like, I need. to go away. I don't need you touring with me getting standing ovations from the opening spot. Get the hell out of here. Or people loving you more than me like get out of here. You need to go off and build your own. Like, okay. And then you're going to hit rock bottom again.

You're like, you're broke. Where am I going to tour? And then oh, my God, what's going to happen? And then you, then I joined me and a couple of Muslim comedians as a comedian as a comedian that happened to be Muslim started touring, doing what we wanted to do. We called it, Allah made me funny. And that caught fire. And then we started touring all over the world outside of the industry. We were like selling out theaters in South Africa. Africa, Australia, Europe, all throughout. We did like 30 cities in the UK. And even though there was 30 fucking cities in the UK.

He's like, it's insane, like, amount of shows. And then Dave, Chappelle heard about us. You're like, oh, that's crazy. How y'all doing this outside of the industry? This is nuts. He has a touring worldwide. Most comedians not even doing all these markets like this. They're so cool.

And then when Dave was doing his comeback, he was like, I was in the same town. I was in San Francisco. He was, I think, in Oakland, too, doing shows. And we went and said hi to him. me and us are we were like popped in he was like you want to open tomorrow's like yeah you want to open the next day yeah and next you know it's like 4,000 shows or something together over 10 years it's like that's how it goes it's like you're and then you get that's my that becomes like your big brother and like guide at this altitude so the previous mentorships were about

helping you get here but those people don't know how to navigate that altitude and then you meet somebody like Chappelle I mean dude and then he and he really truly you know is able to guide you in ways that very few people can and just give you advice not really like he'll never say do this don't do that, do to do that just give you information which I think is some of the best kind of advice

yeah I mean that's like the go to fucking comedy what easily is one of it so you've been a mentor to you yeah yeah that's my like brother yeah that's that's special man yeah it's very special yeah he's gay no I'm just kidding you're hyping him up fuck that guy

no no he's the best bro he really is so cool I think sometimes he's really misunderstood. I think he's really, really misunderstood. As a comedian or as a person? Both, both. I think both he's really misunderstood. I feel sometimes. I think people really know him, know him.

He's very pure-hearted person. He really is a well-meaning individual. He's not trying to be mean, you know? And he has a provocative way of asking questions. That's what, that's what. But, you know, it's nobody has, has to agree with anybody and the whole point of like being in a civilized world is that you can have very difficult discussions and feel uncomfortable and it's okay to feel uncomfortable and you move

away from each other better people hopefully you know that you can learn from one another become better people and then you take it from there but you don't you know you know I think just like damming someone is really a bad thing you know I don't agree with you so fuck you're out of here yeah you know I think it's okay I don't know agree with you to your way to be mine like it's okay just don't harm me nobody's try to harm each other here but you go off on your way it's okay yeah what do you think the best advice that chapel's ever given you uh be so honest that it's hard to make eye contact with you and i think that's like one of the things that's like stuck with me especially with this last special i just um i'm feeling some type of way

because i do feel very vulnerable i've really tried to be like very honest and raw and the things that I've done in the last, you know, I guess raw talk, pun intended in this situation. But I really just try to be very vulnerable and real and pose certain questions through my stand-up and through the television show. And that's probably been the biggest thing for me. Because you feel really mad like, did I do what, what's up, y'all?

Like everything cool, y'all like that? You know, you just feel a certain way. But I also feel like I've relieved. I've never been freer in my life. You know what I mean? I feel like answers me. man this is this is uh it's a piece of art and uh and i'm very very thrilled that i was able to put it out and and it to come together and i and i do believe that it's timely and timeless and i think

that the more time goes by the better it gets yeah there seems to be a a commonality between like all people who have success it's almost always comes back to being genuine yeah like in any industry like talk to so many different people through so many different different successes yeah and almost every single time I talk to anyone about their success and how they found it and like actually it coming to fruition it comes down to them just like truly being themselves yes and it takes you a long time to be yourself right I can stand up in particular I remember my again Danny telling me this early on it's like imagine when you first go up on stage there's a big wall and every time you go up on stage you're chipping away that wall you know and

and eventually people will see you completely without a wall and you'll be able to be exactly who you are and be yourself. It takes a long time before you can actually be that. You'll find if you go into seeing early tapes or videos of me starting stand-up, be like, who is this guy? Yeah. You know, a 17-year-old kid is just jumping everywhere, just full of energy. I'm 17, 18 years old.

And you're like, I don't even know who this person is. I can't even remember this person. This was me, for real. And it's a beautiful thing. I used to feel very uncomfortable watching those videos. And Dave was like, no, it's so beautiful. man this is like a little time capsule of who you are at this moment in time and you could always reference that it's a beautiful thing yeah yeah i relate to that us not in the comedy level but

it's just youtube like the same exact concept you look back and you're like what the fuck was i say yeah exactly but look at the first video that mr beast made it's like him walk around you want some money yeah here you go congratulations fucking he's literally you must sit in my room and just fucking stay awake for a hundred thousand hours as well putting skittles in my eyeballs and everyone's like and now he's he's fucking YouTube yeah he is YouTube

yeah he is right he's completely YouTube 100% yeah he's like literally if you think of YouTube pretty much synonymously think of as far as content goes you think of Mr. Beast incredible

what's your incredible yeah God did God did but God don't let me talk about some things is so funny

what's your what's your North Star what's the end of it all you're gonna continue to do more more show I like shows man yeah i'm gonna do i'm gonna do some more uh some more television and film you know with you in it or just even other people both yeah both yeah yeah both things yeah that's that's like looking back on that even the way you shot it like the i i don't know how how much of a hand you had in every

aspect of it the ed every aspect i edited all with my guys it was just i had two editors the way it works is i sit down each one has an episode you split it up four episodes four episodes and then you sit with one the next i would spend like 12 to 15 hours a day just editing with them yeah yeah every every single detail every second yeah it was very you know when you see good tv so you're like damn this was the way this was shot that angle the cut the edits everything thank you it was fucking phenomenal thank you the coloring everything thanks man yeah yeah i'm trying like i'm glazing they're gonna say i'm glazing no glazed away bro pause you know what i mean glaze away pause i don't care that's exactly i people want to look i put

i like died four or five times making my show that's how i felt yeah you know I was like, I'm dead serious. There was so many moments where I feel like I became a different person every, every few weeks. I'm like, and then you just come back to life. Get over here. Let's do this. Let's do that. You know, like, yeah, it's ever-changing from changing the script on set, from having a show run to production design to costume, to, you know, location scouting, to, of course, the writing from the beginning to end and rewriting everything and, you know, directing.

and having slick helping as well and directing himself who did an amazing job from the DP, from like, I care about everybody. Like it's really intentional like of my position and to do so and I really wanted to be thoughtful

in every aspect. And then also, hey, it wasn't even about me. It's like, hey, we gotta kill this season. Like we have to make sure it's the best possible show version of this story and nothing else matters. We're all going to work extremely hard.

We're all going to put it, the blood, sweat and tears into this because in the end, you know, I felt like it was my neck on the line. You know, nobody's going to remember who was doing what at that time and how shitty the show. I was going to remember you. And be like, oh, you suck.

Yeah, yeah. Or you get either the other side of it, we were like, man, that was incredible. But that's, and then when you do that, when you get that reaction, you go, I had an amazing team that really helped me fulfill my vision, understood exactly what I wanted to do,

that really worked with me to fulfill that. You know, that's, that's what it's about. I'm a tip to hat to all those guys. But every part of it, every man, the opening of the first episode, I probably spent like 100 hours on that two minutes. Even the opening of the special, that one minute, I spent like 70-some hours on. Fuck.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, just sitting there every fucking day. Just boom. Get this shit right. Get the shit right. Yeah, yeah, disaster. If this doesn't work, that doesn't work. Fuck, we got to fix it. I'm on tour.

I'm you know we had a tour bus in Europe so I'm doing the shows we're done all the guys are having a good time I'm upstairs editing I'm upstairs editing with the Wi-Fi while the bus is rolling talking my editor on the Apple TV and on the iPad he's over here and I'm seeing it you know mirroring on the TV I'm talking to do that 7 8 o'clock in the morning rolls around I go in to bed everybody's waking up making coffee I go to bed we pull up to hotel at one you know get up say hi how you doing go hang out with my son wife okay do a show after the show same thing take a shower get back in the bus go upstairs i'm editing it's how it works just constant and i was doing the show i was working 16 minimum 16 to 20 hour days like 16 was like if we got out of near 12 hours you're like

what am i going to do myself i don't know what to do i got to do something you like feel weird like that it no we can do more you know you feel very yeah and there's always something to be done especially in television like you always want to stay 20 steps ahead if you can. So you clearly love it. I love it. I was born to do it. It's how I feel. It's different. You can see like people, assistants,

whatever, they'll be falling asleep around you. Like, what are you doing? And you're just constantly going. I never like fall asleep, pass out, feel tired. The last shot of the series that push in, we had worked, God, I'll show you pictures. It's hilarious. So my assistant director, this guy, we took pictures of them in different parts of the he was like passing out all the time in different different times with the time codes yeah in the monitor we did 22 hours straight I think filming yeah the last shot that push in we got like 20

some odd takes so I was like again we were like get it again and slick was with me was like let's do it again you know he's also amped up like me let's do it again let's do it again and we had it on the third take but we got fucking I ended up using the third take Like when I did the editing, I was like, oh, we had it. We did all that shit for nothing. It's crazy. It's like, it's another two hours of like, we got to do it. But watch it.

Just to be sure. Yeah, it was so scary because it's the last shot of the season. Like, it's the big, it's the last thing. Yeah. It's the most, one of the most important shots of the whole season. Yeah. If not the most important shot. And so I was just like, we got to get it right.

And then I thought we had it. And then Slick's not there. And then the AD's like, I think we're just chasing. The dragons, poor guy is just fucked out of his mind. He's so tired. And, you know, when you rap, everybody's kind of applauding, hey, what a great run. Like, you know, you just gave so many, like a year of your life to film for these three straight months. And by the time we were done, we're in this, like, soccer stadium in Malta.

Yeah. You know, on this level in a small room that's been made into a, you know, a detention. Like, not a detention, but a interrogation room. him and there's just I walk outside and there's just like this old man just like mopping just he he he heard him like he and then somebody goes all right it's a rap for mo and here oh man oh man just one guy fuck yeah I was like yeah okay it's how I wanted to go out it's kind of symbolic though it was so symbolic it was but also I was like All right, perfect.

I'm going to go home with my wife and son. I'll see you all later. It was nuts. To be done was just, I knew that my job was really just starting because I have, I spent like four months editing after that. And then you got to spend the time promoting and all the other stuff. Yeah, exactly. It's not a stop, bro.

It's not a stop. So where do you, do you want to do motion pictures? Do you want to do like big time? Yeah, yeah. I'm working a movie next. That's what I'm writing. I'm writing a movie or a television show. Do you don't have the name yet?

Can you say anything? No, no, I can't say anything. Yeah, but I'm cooking. Is it about something? specific can you say anything about it i'd rather not okay fair because it could change fair it could change it yeah yeah yeah but it's something that i've always wanted to do and there's a couple of them that i'm actually working on and there's another tv show that i'm developing so it's uh two two films and a tv show will you always stay in the genre of comedy no i think that it's a very natural for me

to go into a little bit of um drama i think that every comedy has every comedy has drama relief and every drama is comedy relief. But I also, I'm very into, like, anything that Scorsese's ever done in those, like, those raw mob movies, those great stories. I have a, I have an itch that I need to scratch. I need to do that for sure.

Those are some of my favorite films of all time. 100%. Have you seen the documentary? The Scorsese documentary? No, the one that just recently has seen it. You got to watch it. It's unbelievable. Like, I had all, kind of used, like,

inner monologue inside of me, like, man, I don't care. Like, you have all this shit about the, but you know wanting to be um appreciated and everything and then you watch the the the documentary you're like oh okay i need to shut the fuck up yeah yeah they didn't care or appreciate scorst hazy like yeah he's show your mouth mox you got a lot of work to do bro yeah he's so impressive what i just love this man bro yeah i can't wait to meet him i know what's going to happen soon i just can't wait to meet him because I might not stop hugging this guy.

I just might just, might do one of these. Because when I met Robert De Niro, I fanned out, like 10 years ago. When I met him for the first time, I turned around. I went, oh, literally like a bitch, just complete fan out. Fan girl. And I, first time ever, like, I've ever done this. And still, to that day, I screamed. And I held him like this.

And I held him. And he was looking at me real close like this. And I was like, did I hold on too long? And I swear to you, he goes, a little bit, a little bit. He did. He did. I was like, oh, this is it. This is my life.

That's it. My life is made. It's great. A classic line. He said it right to my face. It was unbelievable. And thankfully, like, he just saw me perform. So it wasn't super out of nowhere.

Yeah. So he was just, and he's a very reserved dude. And it was, we talked for so long. And I say we, I talked the whole time. And monopolize this time. Everybody behind me was like, bro, can we just please say hello? Then I was like, I don't give a shit. I'm the one talking to him, like, you don't know if this is going to happen again.

I'm doing it right now. I'm getting it all off my chest. It was the best, the best. You have any other, like, big inspirations like that in the industry? It was really interesting because the first book I read was Wise Guys when I first came to America. Not the first book, but the first book when I came to the state, somehow Nicholas authored this book called Wise Guys,

which became Goodfellas. no idea so I was infatuated with that world and just like autobiographical stories like this I just couldn't believe that these human beings existed like they lived these kind of lives outside of the boundaries like this and and we're able to do it for so long yeah it's nuts to me and that history and what that means and I find it to be so fascinating so really everything in that world of Scorsese and godfather of course is uh you know because they didn't do that, but in that world,

it was really fascinating to me and those actors associated with, like, Al Pacino, which I did get to me. It was so super cool because my show was honored at the American Film Institute for the first season,

and he came out, and he spoke at the ceremony, and it was probably one of the best speeches I've ever seen in my life. Like our table, so it was only Netflix show that got honored that year, so it felt great, you know, about that.

one show so there's like they pick like 10 shows out of 600 they literally said they looked at 599 shows and the american film institute is like the institution for filmmaking and television and i'm so had so much gratitude for them and still to this day and i'm hoping we get season two you know god god willing but we're able to go there so in this room it's just like everyone that you've ever like as a little kid yeah looked up to i mean the 10 movie I think it was like was it Maverick Top Gun and they had

No sorry it was like a Maverick the new remake What is the remake called? Sorry The new the new Top Gun movie Yeah yeah top gun Not Top Gun not Top Gun Maverick was yeah Top Gun with the Tom Cruise Yeah it's the new iteration And then they had Avatar

And then Spievin Spielberg was there And I was James Cameron and everybody We're all like in the same room together And everywhere all at once also they had won every single all the actors Michelle Yao and everybody in there's the Gorny Weaver's in there like bro it's like you're just losing your mind right walking in there I can't believe that that I created a show that's getting on here and I'm around these people that I've admired so I was a little kid this was in 22 December of 22 something like that anyway so I go and

then Pacino like just walks in and he's the just the he's the he's the one who's the who's speaking, you're, their guest and honored speaker. And he comes on, he goes, yeah, it's good to be here. Oh, it's good to be here. It's good to be at an award show where you're all winners. There's no losers here. You're all winners, you know? So I ain't got to give no speech about losing a winner.

You're all winners here. It's nice. I got something to say here. I wrote some things, but I don't really like reading it. I like to be free and just kind of talk about what I'm feeling, you know? And I got to tell you, a lot of things. a lot of drugs and alcohol, yeah? Did a lot, did a lot of good for me.

I'm not advocating for it, what I'm just saying? It helped me true a lot. And he proceeds to tell this story that's unbelievable. I don't even if I can say it. Fuck, I'm going to say it. And he goes, he goes, yeah, you know, it's like drugs and alcohol did a lot for me. You know, I did the Godfather,

the first role like God ever. Can you imagine? Yeah. Godfather, right? First time, he goes, did the Godfather. I'm there, and I have to finish film. I got nominated for an Oscar. I did so many drugs and quailudes back then. I couldn't even do my hair, you know?

And my fucking manager at the time had to do my hair, wake me up and slap me out of it. We'd go to the Oscars. And we're sitting down. It's this huge venue. There's 4,000 people there. 4,000 people. And I'm sitting all the way in the back.

And I go, oh, my God. What if I win? I'm high out of my mind. Like, I got to walk all the way there. I can't walk. I can't feel my legs. I look at my manager. I said, how much we got?

How much longer are we got? How long has it been? He goes, so it's almost done. He goes, no, we got another three hours. I said another three hours. Oh, my God. Well, he's telling this story in front of all these people. In front of everybody, yeah, in front of everybody, right?

And he goes, oh, my God. And he goes, you know, and then they came to our category. And I was like, please don't win. I don't want to win. I'm so fucked up out of my mind. Yo. And they call out the winner. They go, Jack Lemon, and I got up, and I fucking celebrated.

Then I didn't want so happy. And the next day in the papers, they said, look at Al Pacino. What a class act. Celebrating for his fellow actor that he won an Oscar. I was just happy that you didn't have to walk up there because I was so fucked up out of my mind. Bro.

The greatest, the greatest day of storytelling and just seeing someone you've looked up to. So as an artist and all that, it's just. go up there tell something so raw and so honest everyone is dying incredible and then he goes okay let me go to my paper I got something we're all winners you know congratulations

starts reading from the paper yeah he's like right here like right in front of us our table was right in the front couldn't believe that's like that's like I mean it was in the paper they commented I think the LA Times or something was there and they wrote about it that's gotta be like taught I mean as a someone who

who's wanted to be in that industry, wanted to be in that space, it doesn't get much better than that. No, it doesn't. You want to be recognized for, you know, being a great storyteller and actor and performer and all this and director. And it's like, this is an environment

where they do, you know, think about who they're selecting. And it was incredible to be mentioned in that top 10. It was like Better Call Saul was in the category. It was like, me, better call Saul. That fucking show was great, too. Bro, it's phenomenal. The list, you look at the list.

You're like, you see my name in there, Mo. You're like, I can't fucking believe this. He's just like, you made it. Yeah, exactly. He's like, I can't believe I'm here hanging out. You feel like a kid a little bit. Yeah. You do.

100% I felt like a child. It makes sense. Talking to James Cameron about his watch. I'm looking at him. He's wearing the James Cameron watch. Like, he's wearing the Rolex and I'm looking at it. You know, and he's talking about it. They literally made that watch because of his deep diving, you know, like.

It's even more special your generation. Like, you. your age and your generation because all those people you mentioned were like literally the ones you mentioned that as you're that's why you felt like a kid. Yes. That's what all, all those movies I grew up watching, you grew up watching. You're like, damn.

Yeah, you can't believe you're in the same room and then they look at you like, oh, I got to watch your show, I got to check it out. And then you get a letter from these guys. Like I loved your show. And it's like I can't, then I have a letter from Stephen Spielberg saying how much he loves the show. Proud of you, man. That's fucking huge. You just, I look at him when he's just a real? I don't know. It's really special. It's very, very special. Especially since

this show's content and the story and the fact that they're open enough to receive it and understand it. Like, I'm sure not everyone feels that way, but in the end, you can't argue that this is like a well-told story that's from the heart. It's a human story that really anyone watches can relate to. Yeah, I thought it was great. Yeah, there's nobody, no other show on television is touching on these things. I touched on the immigration, the detention centers, like I've always been ahead on this because I'm inside of it. Like, I know what it is.

Like, I've been a citizen for 15, 16 years now. It took me 20 years to get my citizenship prior to that. So it's no surprise to me to see what's going on today. You know? Right. To see what's going on today, everybody's like, shocked to me. I saw it coming. I didn't think it was going to be this extreme at times.

Like, it's really, really terrible to see people being snatched away from their families. It's just so gross. When there's you know there's another way to do it. And hopefully, Felipeo, or Filipito, he's okay. He's out there in these streets, bro. But again, going back to the, yeah,

you got to figure that out, bro. Make a call. Hey, Trump, baby. How do you do it? Hey, we got a kid over here. You got a kid. He's chubby, but he's doing well. Yeah, he's great.

No, but I think that, again, going back to what you've done also is really impressive and all these guys you sponsor. So Sarah started because you pushed her to do it, right? Yeah, essentially. when I first met her she was still in school still finished school throughout the social media thing but I remember I spoke to her originally and I was like you got to do this she was like I don't really want to straight up down that would have been a massive mistake yeah she seems like she really

loves it yeah no she loves it 100% now but I remember then she's like she didn't want to do it and I told her I was like you just you know kind of how your first comedian mentor was like you got a post like this you were doing this yeah exactly I just did the same thing but it was because I'm sure like your first mentor I saw I was like no I've been in this long enough to know that you have what it takes to do it right it's just a matter of like sort of leading her in that direction and it just took off now she's killing it bro every time I'm on youtube she's like hi I'm sarah safari and the weight protein is so good for you or creatine is so good for him is fucking doing ads now get at hi I'm sarah safari and it's creatine proven 100% so good fee

Get out of my face, bro. Nobody wants you creatine. Creeteen's a great supplement. I know, it is. All right, it is. I know. This guy is just such a fucking, such a beast.

Hey, wait, wait. This is what you're talking about creatine. It's the reason why I'm here. It's the way I'm able to think in the morning. Everybody drinks coffee. I drink creatine. Creatine in my coffee. I'm sure.

Creatine coffee. By the way, let's cut to the ad right now. Creatine coffee coming out soon. Bradley Martin. What's up? I should make that. Yeah, she's killed. You should make that.

Yeah. I'd fucking drink it. It's good. It's good. It's good for your brain, your body, everything. Anyways, we'll get into that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just need you to teach me how to get on steroids.

That's what I want to teach. It's simple. Yeah. You get a vial. You get a syringe and then you start. That is all it is. Obviously, it's not that simple. Come on, bro.

It's, you got to get the blood work. There's all those things you got to do. You got to make sure you're good. That's the key with all that kind of shit. It's making sure you're good and then continuing to make sure you're good. So I got to find the Barry Bonds doctor to help me out. Yeah, or just, you know, just a doctor. Just a doctor?

Not just a doctor. Not just a doctor, right? And then no chronologist. Some guy like, come up, bro, I got you, bro. You want, like, what kind? You went to tattero? You want that guy? Like, what do you want, bro?

Not that kind of doctor. But have you ever thought about doing something like that? I have. Yeah, it's super interesting to me, like, to see everybody so ripped and amazing. I mean, Jose Cansego started that whole thing I feel. he's like he's like 70 and still looks shredded like get the fuck out of here yeah his knees are shot but yeah i play with him in a celebrity softball game he hit the fucking ball nine million yards i'm like just out of the park this guy's like i still hit i was like yeah but you have like

someone else running for you i mean your knees are shot yeah but so you would you would do it maybe yeah yeah i got to lose weight first fair yeah i got to lose way first i think you can't just be fat and starting steroids i think that's a bad combination could be it could be i think it really depends it just depends where your actual levels are yeah truthfully because sometimes people who are more of a weight i'm very strong so i worked out for i mean i did boxing for a hot minute and then over the last year i was filming the show we were just doing this intense workouts in houston called kango really an amazing gym by the way if you're ever in houston come check it out these guys are nuts it's not like it's uh it's a it's a really really

like using every part of your body type workouts and resistance and all that you know this better than i do but i was pushing like 900 pounds sleds i mean i was going crazy i was having a great time you're pushing 900 pounds 900 pounds what the fuck yeah i was pushing it we keep putting them on that's actually what you just stacking the place yeah it was 8 800 sorry 800 pounds that's impressive as fuck yeah i pushed them about 20 yards yeah 20 10 years maybe you don't need steroids you strong no i was just pushing it yeah yeah yeah no i was crushing it and then i was like dying and then i got like a heel spur of you know you know i'm because I was going crazy.

But I need to get some things straight and then I'll be able to get back into cardio. I got to like, I tweak my, tweak my leg. So I need to like. And it is hard to find the balance of all this, especially someone like you, the traveling.

That makes it hard. Yeah, it's the travelish man. I just need to be able to get my cardio back and the meaning like I got to get my leg healthy. So I'm going to get that straight in December. As you're fucking hot as hell in here. I got to get my cardio.

It's not even hot in here. What are you talking about? It's not 72. You're sweating too. What are the fuck are you talking about? Fat fuck. It's 72 in here. Where's 72?

You got those lights right there. It's not 72 in here. Put those guns. Those lights aren't 72. No, that's not the same. That's not the other room. That's not an accurate thing. That's not an accurate thing.

It's cooler in there. No, no, no. 72. Look, it just took a picture. No, no. You don't know how lights work. 72. You don't know how lights work.

That's true. You're right. It is hotter. I bet you walk in there. It's cooler in there. It was cooler. It's like one, two, three, four massive lights happening in here. That's true.

Don't bust my balls. I know how this thing works. We were just talking about fast. Weirdly, it just feels cooler. It looks like I got this sweat up before. I'm going to tell you a rough rule, I'm Bradley. Yeah. Yeah.

Have you struggled with weight most of your life? I think so. I had a, I actually almost done it. It was a sixth grade. I hit my head on bottom of a pool. And I almost. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah.

Was there no water in it? yeah there was water in there nobody fucking jumps in a pool without water what's what i'm saying like no water in it but how do you get to the bottom like you were nobody yeah just dives hey is you water you're fucking i'm just gonna go yes there was water in there yeah but like it wasn't label properly the way you don't know you couldn't see where the diving area was and where it was like four feet or three feet or three and a half feet on the sides you got that perception no it was it was it was both on each side there was like a the way it meets in the middle okay the way like slopes down and then he went in and then it just my hands were in front so thank god and then it stopped like

most of it but i hit the top of my head you were diving i was diving okay i was diving um and i had a compressed vertebra i almost died or paralyzed it could have been worse so at that point changed my whole life like i was in a neck brace for like four or five months wasn't allowed to do anything and i gained a bunch of weight oh i see and then it had a whole like ripple effect but now you know it obviously was fixed at some point it wasn't caught right away we didn't have insurance was a little kid immigrant in america like the whole thing i get it but very very lucky extremely fortunate that uh that i walk and do everything so yeah so that was like a big thing and then it changed everything for me that really like i yo-yoed from there for sure

yeah is it is it i feel like sometimes it's true is when you're fat or you're more funny yeah yes i mean I don't know, maybe. I don't think that's true. Would you, would your jokes hit the same if you were skinny? Yes, I don't do fat jokes. If I just did fat jokes and I was dead, it doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't matter. My whole thing is like, listen, if you're going to lose your hair, you got to be in shape, okay?

Valid. You got to be in shape, okay? If you're going to be bald, you're going to be in shape. Because I want to shave my head, but I can't do it now. It can't be round and I just want to. I just want to do it. Fair. But you can't be like round, round, round.

You got to pick one struggle. You got to pick one struggle. You got to be in shape, shredded. Then you can shave it. And you grow out, the beard looks nice. A little grizzly situation. Yeah, I see what's happening. And I got you amped up.

You see how amped up you got? Yeah, bro. Yeah, fuck you up. Fuck, yeah. You know, I'm fucking ripped, baby. See this Rogan Crip talking about how dope I am. By the creetine. By the creetine.

Hi, I'm stressed firing. No. Yeah, that's my rules. Like, I think once I get straight, I'm going to do the, I'm going to get rid. It's just see what it looks like, just to do different shit. Did the beard bigger? I don't know, maybe. I had it big before.

I did it for, like, Black Adam. I did the beard when I did the superhero movie. You were in Black Adam? Yeah. What the fuck? You don't remember? I was the guy, the electrician. Die of electricity, that's me.

Oh, what the fuck? How did I not? Yeah, the best character, yes, it was me. Busting balls, I don't. Wait, wait, wait, wait, what? Have you been in a bunch of other shit as well? What am I not aware? I've done a few movies.

No, but Black Adam was like the big one, the big, big thing. And then I did a few movies before that. But then I really like was focused on my show. I'd consume like six years of my life. Yeah. You know, with the writing strike, and then COVID before that,

you know, five months, there's nothing with the delay with the writing strike in comparison to COVID. COVID was a fucking nightmare. Yeah. You know, I started writing it in, uh, what was it,

to April of 2020, and then we didn't finish. And it was out until like August. of 22, I think something like that. August 22 came out in the first season. So you're talking about two and a half years, you know, it's really, really tough. Kept pushing and COVID protocols and creating bubbles and all that stuff. So, yeah, about six years.

So that consumed that. And then you want to do things that you really love and want to be a part of, you know, you don't want to just like do anything. Yeah, that's the same way with social media, the same sort of same vibe. You kind of, you kind of, even like doing his podcast. I was excited to do something different, you know? Yeah. Like, you know, everybody's just kind of doing the same shit. I just want to do something different.

And I thought it was really impressive what you built out and what you've done. I'm like, man, this is really cool. And then I saw who you spawned. I'm like, this guy really cares about everybody around him. At least it looks that way. I don't know if you could be a complete asshole, but I don't know. I'm just kidding. No, it really looks like.

No, I do see that you genuinely like care about these guys around you and like, they're your family. It's really fucking cool. And you could see it in these videos. and they've all done really well from themselves and they're going off and having their own success I think it's really really dope man and I caught it I saw it I was like wow there's a lot of these guys and now your gym

has become this like place for this environment it's super interesting 100% are they always filming there is always somebody filming there I would yeah I would say at least once a day someone's filming something yeah yeah whether it's a live stream or a YouTube video or whatever I'd say at least yeah once a day it's probably there's never not someone filming there yeah yeah and also i see those videos with steve and stuff he gambles like crazy he's a insane

he's an insane i mean he really is a gambler like a real fucking gambler i mean how much money i was always like concerned like how is he like just millions yeah he's it's weird because i i'll gamble i'm i'm decent at gambling but like can you really be good at it he's actually good at it and it's very it's weird he has the most insane luck out of anyone i've ever met in my life when it comes he also doesn't stop until he wins yeah yeah that's also the thing if you have like an amazing bank roll where just literally you you won't stop until you get it back yeah eventually you're gonna hit yeah he's he's nuts i mean he's done things i've like i it's almost unfathomable just to see how much he's like gone down to come up i've i watched him be down like more than

a million dollars and like come back the same night on a table in real like i'm not even talking about I can't, bro. Like, it's nuts. No way I could do that. I would just lose my mind. Just knowing that a million dollars of my hard-earned money is gone. Like, that's my whole life. My whole life is done losing that kind of mind.

I mean, he must be like insanely rich. You can't just lose a million bucks like that. But that's the interesting part about him. Like, he is, he is very well off. But it's like he's just done this for long enough to now that he has just like an, yeah, sure. And he's had people, like, there's people who have bailed him out in certain situations. Like he's great friends with Dana,

who's I've seen personally bail him out like a million dollars. And it's just like... Yeah, they call him Batman, right? Yeah. It's nuts, though. I just, I'm always like, I'm like fearful the day who would he ever be like, yo, I lost fucking 10 million. And I'll be like, uh...

Yeah, but if he has a hundred million, then it's like... Yeah. I'll be okay. He just keep fighting. Even if even... But he's the kind of person, I think even if you could lose that in 10 days. You could lose the other... Yeah.

But he could also... I feel like he's a guy who could lose 10 million and like take a loan and, and and then come right back. Like, that's how I'm not, I don't want to live that life. Yeah, and I'm not telling anyone to do this.

You give me $10 million. I am going to create like probably two movies out of that thing. Yeah. I get it. That's more how I am. I was like, bro, stop, bro. This is crazy.

What can I invest in? Yeah, what can I make that like has prolonged effect for sure. No, that's sick, man. Like we're doing the Miami gym now. It's going to be good.

Oh, so I have like an East Coast location for zoo culture, which will kind of create the same culture over there as far as like content. production and everything. Oh, that's awesome. Because that's the crazy thing about it. Like, I didn't start it at all. When I first started that gym, I originally bought that gym and finance that, like got the whole gym set up because I was getting kicked out of other gyms for filming. Because back then, it was like you couldn't film or anything in gyms. Like,

this is commercial gyms. Oh, wow. Yes, yes. So I bought that gym not with the intention of even having members. It was just I was going to use it to film my content and like have people come in and film content with them. So the original idea of that gym was just for content. And then I was like, okay, let me try this. I was very afraid to even have it be a gym because then you always have the fear of like, what if it doesn't, you know, what if all these people come here and then it doesn't work out in the long run. But it's turned into a real place where people are able to network film content, like further their careers to like a crazy level because so many other people that aren't even necessarily in fitness come in and out of there and also film content or live streamers will come in and

film bits. So the goal is like obviously you want to have a really dope gym with a cool environment at the same time allowing people to build their careers. Because social media has just completely changed the shape of the fitness landscape entirely. It has, right? I mean, obviously the world entirely, but fitness specifically has just been completely elevated because of the ability of like film in spaces, you know? Yeah, I've seen that. I've seen that like dramatically shift. And I've seen places that attempt to do it and they don't do it well, and it doesn't work. Yeah.

So it's not easy to do. Yeah. And the fact that you've created a space for it, it's really ahead of its time. The fact that you saw it, you saw a problem in the market. 100%. You saw this evolution that's happening and you took a risk and you got this gym and you built it around yourself and then everybody else started going, oh, I can go do this over there because I'm having, I'm having problems doing this kind of content too.

I want to come do this here. And it is just because I did it. It's just because I did it. And I was like, oh, this is my life was a product. of doing that yeah so everyone's like okay and then i've spent so i know all the pitfalls of it what to do what not to do so yeah it's i think it's a cool space a really special space no you got come work out i got to come see it i'll do it yeah how long you're la for i'm here until saturday i might prolong it if if they've come saturday then i'm gonna stay then i'll tell we'll try and

sort something out if you can do that'd be a cool little bit just can you because i like to see how i don't know going to like test your strength crazy but like you know a little bench press something like that'd be fun yeah it's been a minute but I'm down. So Dave's coming Saturday for what? I don't know. Just coming in here. Okay, okay.

I don't know. He didn't tell me. He said I might be there Saturday. Are you doing anything else here besides, um, I'm doing some stand-up on Thursday, just freestyling some shit. And then I'm doing podcasts and a little press run. I'm having some meetings.

Yeah. Yeah, just seeing about what's next and people that want to talk to me about what's next. Yeah. You like L.A.? I do. I like it overall. I like that I visit here more than live here. Yeah,

I get it. I think it's better. I think it's one of those things that is good to be missed. you know yeah it's uh and i also believe in this you know once you start everyone hangs out together all the time people start thinking the same and it's important it's important to like step out and be reflective and and i think those moments of solitude are really important and it's not like i'm in houston 24-7 so i'm always on the road anyway i'm traveling whether doing stand-up or filming something or going somewhere i'm just the way i am um but i'm a big believer

of that. But you're saying that. It's dope out here. It's so nice. I'm just, I'm just to have an earthquake phobia, you know. That shit never happens. It's going to happen when you're here.

He said, that shit never happens. I'm leaving right now. That's just happening this weekend now. I'm leaving, bro. You don't ever say, that shit never happens. Tess Gord!

Let's see what happens. That's never happens. He said that. Why don't you Google that? See how many earthquakes California has had this year. So you say that, though. I'm assuming it's in regards to your ability

to create. outside of what everyone's kind of already creating or thinking about, right? I'm saying it's just important to have those, for me, there's the solitude, that reflection, that ability to like separate yourself and then come back and join, you know? Yeah. And you have a different look, outlook and thought process. I think it just, it helps me, my process.

And also, you know, find it really important to be close to my mother, my brother and the family. And just keeping the family together is very, very important to me. Yeah. yeah especially with my son like i just i just uh that's everything and to have the space and the land and everything else in houston like i just love it yeah and like houston is popping houston is pop houston has an insane like history of so many amazing artists have come out of h town oh yeah it's incredible the amount i mean everyone goes to biance of course right the queen

Travis Scott. For that, of course, you have ghetto boys, UGK, Bumbie, Slim Thug, Paul Wall, Fat Pat. Like, bro, it just keeps going. A little kiki, little flip. I mean, it's just there's so many. And every time I, like, oh, you're going to forget, zero. There's just so many people that have,

so many great artists have come out of Houston. Lizzo, you know, just keeps going. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing artists. And people are writers also that I've met, like, on the road. Oh, I'm from Alien. I'm from Houston, too.

Oh, shit, that's crazy. You know, I wrote on this show. I'm writing on this show. I'm producing for this. Or executives? Like, it's like so many of the executives that I work with are from Houston. It's kind of interesting. I love Houston.

Yeah. Good food, too. Yeah, it's the best. Yeah, I know. Don't, man, don't you fucking look at me that way. It's good food too, you a fan, fuck. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that look.

It's so good. I don't blame you, man. It's amazing, bro. It's so good. It's so good. Yeah, if you ever come out, bro, we'll host you for sure. That'd be amazing. you got to come down man you got to come do you travel a lot is houston or uh not a lot to

yeah yeah i tend to go to i go to florida a lot obviously because of the the relationship to the gym building that out there but um yeah i'm sure that's why you go to florida yeah yeah relation to the gym you know yeah yeah no that's why we're there yeah the gym the gym the gym do you do you ever go to venice beach and do that whole thing i i did a lot more earlier in the career filming like all the content i did a lot more stuff is that still popping over there Venice Beach, is that the thing? Because let me tell you something. A lot of crack in Venice.

Yeah, it's not. Meth or whatever. It's not what it was. 2017 was probably the last best year as far as like that fitness space goes to golds in Venice, for sure. And now all the golds in L.A. I've turned into like a different gym. It turns to EOS.

Yeah. I don't know. They just recently sold. Or salad bars. Or salad bars. Yeah. Yeah. I like salad.

You like salad? Yeah, I love salad. Yeah, I don't believe that. I don't believe it. Yeah, I do. I don't believe it. It's not my go-to. Salad with a lot of steak.

What's up? Salad with a lot of steak? No, I like chicken salad. Like, I like a good, classic chicken. Excuse me, I like a good classic Caesar salad. I don't even want the chicken on there. Because a lot of times they make it dry. I don't like the dry chicken.

You like it covered. But Caesar is the one. It's a Caesar sauce. Yeah, that's the whole point of a fucking Caesar salad. I know. I'm fucking with you. What do you mean? You put this sauce on their sides.

I can you just dip. Get out of my face. I'll smack that whole salad at your hand. don't give it to me with a lot of anchovies either that's gross that's what it is it's in the sauce is it yeah cesar salad that's i didn't have no idea i thought it was just like a mayonnaise kind of thing no no what the fuck they put yeah oh damn you mix it in there you didn't even know you were i hate anchovies yeah i'm not an anchovy guy man yeah yeah yeah well you've been and you don't even know yeah yeah he's a salad that's the move i say i don't like a verigrette and all that stuff

i'm not a huge vinaigrette guy you like vinaigrette yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah, I need it. Yeah, that Italian. It's the Italian in me. Oh, yeah, that's fine. That's fine. I mean, like, yeah, because you're eating pasta next to it. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm saying solo as a salad eating experience. No, I wouldn't do that solo. Yeah, exactly. I need a seizure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you need some stuff on the side for sure.

Yeah. So, do, so are you actually serious about doing more fitness stuff? Not content-wise, just in your life. No, I'm dead serious. Yeah, I'm dead serious. I just need to get this thing. I'm not trying to talk about publicly, but I need to get a surgery. and once I get that done

and I'm gonna heal I'm gonna do it in December because I'm struggling with pain like pain management's been a fucking situation I keep pushing it pushing it pushing it and I have pushed it as far as I can go now that's it need to get it done so I get my surgery done

yeah it's result of like misalignment so they're gonna fix that once I'm done with that I have like a month of like rehab and recovery to two months and then I'll be off to the races I can't wait yeah if you need help with that let me know I know all the I will no

I will. Seriously, things you could do to like make it recover way faster kind of thing. I'm dead serious. I'm going to call you about that. I was going to ask you about that. No, for sure. Yeah,

I mean it. I will help you. That's been my biggest crutch is because I just dealing with all this pain. Every time I get into it and the doctor was mind blown that I was doing the dead lifts and the, and just not only bench, but also doing the sled and everything else with all the shit that's going on. He's like, I can't believe you were doing that shit.

It's a strong person. Yeah. That's what it is. mentally I was I'm stronger than my back it was like unbelievable what I was doing with the shit that I have going on he was just like you're a fucking idiot stop right now please stop it I was like okay yeah we'll get you right up to I got up to like um what is the 3 45s on each side what is that 315 yeah I got to 315 on dead list that's not bad no it's not bad a little bit more just doing multiple raps not like just I never did like a max rep yeah

yeah I want to work out with you for and I said the and I said the bench you know I said in the special. I benched 300 pounds. The most I bench was 2.75. You can round up. Yeah, that's why I round up. It sounds better. I don't want to say 275. No, that sounds weak. Oh, yeah. My friends from the gym, like, oh, yeah, 300. I was like, oh, boy, you know, it's 275. And I barely, I don't even have leg powers doing it with my feet on the bench. That's harder. I can't put, because my foot, my foot, I can't, like, put the pressure down. So I put my feet on the bench, and that's how I was doing. So the harder version of the bench. Thank you. Okay.

so fuck off it's like 315 he said it bradley martin said it yeah it's true yeah forget it let's check this out so we we gotta get a workout in okay um bro it's been an honor you thank you for having me man you're fucking awesome thank you bro like i'm proud of i mean you don't need me to be proud of you but like what you've done is incredible it means a lot man i love what you guys are doing like i like i said i tracked it and i was like oh these guys are killing it just i'm so happy that i really made like it's so impressive to me it's really really impressive like to start from nothing to build that out but not only that will like helping others while doing well that's the shit yeah and the community you've

built and those chico's toxicos guys are out of their fucking mind i don't want anything to do with them but i do you know what i mean like it's like invite me once but i'm not going to show up but i just want to know that i'm invited to that diabolical fucking situation that they i don't know what they're doing and what direction they're going but god bless them they're having a good time yeah they are i look at them I'm like, man, what are they doing? Also, like, so glad we didn't have cameras when I was coming up like that. Well, that's why I think it's, that's why I think it's popular because it's just what people did.

It's like what people do in their kind of capturing that. They're like living the hangover every day. Yeah, just capturing real life shit, I think is, like, we're supposed to go, funny, my mom's actually coming down tomorrow and I actually double book that, but we're going to go camping. We're going to do this, like, camping vlog. And I just was like, oh, I'm going to bring my mom. It's going to be really good content.

Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be amazing. Yeah, I'll never go camping. What? Never. Why? You mean glamping. Is that what you're saying?

You're taking your fucking trail. Don't even, don't bullshit me. You're not going to be, you're not going to be sleeping in some tent with no, like, ability to have electricity. You're talking about a mobile home. And I'm going to fucking be in the dead. Don't even bullshit me. I don't ever see you like, I'm going to sleep in this tent in the spiders. No, I've done it.

I've done it. Because I swear to you, I know you saw that out there. So it's just your assumption. You are right. 90% of the time I do just sleep in there. And I got the AC and it's nice. But there are times when that's just pulling over and sleeping on the side of the road. That's what that is.

Okay. But there are times I have like a setup that I actually go out and I'll like set up an actual tent away from it. You're an idiot. No, it's fun. Don't do that. It's so fun. I mean that with all love and respect. Don't do that.

It's so fun. Why not? Where do you camp at? Like, where, like, near any water? Yeah, normally like, near like a little river or something? Yeah, river normally or like a lake or something. That I'll drive up north, like up at $3.95 and go to the middle of nowhere. I bet that's cool.

It's amazing. It's like, like you said, detaching yourself from things so you can get a different perspective is fucking priceless. It's actually priceless. And bears. Yeah. Yeah, but I got a, you know. You got a shoddy? I got a shoddy.

I got a little handgun. Yeah. I'm fine. Yeah, you got to have a shotgun for sure. Yeah. I'm definitely not out there like with nothing. Yeah. I tell you, I take care.

Just walk around, like, you just paint your body. You just walk around like Predator. That's what Arnold Schwarzenegger. With the shotgun. Yeah, with the shotgun. I got the bear spray. No, I'm ready. I'm ready.

Bear spray is very effective. You don't even need a shotgun now, right? No, yeah. And also, most bears are, they're afraid of you. Most of those bears. There's certain places you go in, like, Canada, if you run in a grizzlies, they're not afraid you. They'll fucking kill you.

Yeah. The polar bears are the worst, though, I heard. Yeah, because they actively try to kill. you like polar bears like they see you and they'll find you like yeah those guys are hunters brother like snipers like they're hit men i would never i don't think i would camp somewhere like that but i i would have to do it in a way where like you know there's people who know with eskimos yeah i'll do it that's what i mean people will show me where it's at but you never camped no no desire i love it zero desire just the bugs and it's sitting out there like there's options to not do that

so why would i do that even when i was broke or you can go to a motel like down the street or something like next to a body of water and then enjoy the day and then I can go back and sleep I just the reason why I like it is I feel like it's one of the most human things you could do yeah I agree I'm not disagreeing with yeah I'm saying I'm not gonna do it or I would like I would like take a nap outside you know what I mean I would do that and then when I wake up and come to my senses take my ass inside you know what I mean yeah I would do like the 10th thing I would do the big 10th thing I would do the big 10 tent thing. I would do that. You know, I'm leaving myself open for jokes being Arab. But

those tents are really glamorous. You can make some really dope tents. You can. That's what I would do. I would do like a hyped up version of a tent. I would do that 100%. Well, if your son really, like, wants to go camping. My son will never want to go camping. He won't even know what it is. My son would be like, what are they doing? Why did they so stupid the idea? I was like, I don't know. They don't know that indoors exist. Dude, I hope your son wants to go camping so bad now. Now, I'll take them. So bad. I'll take him for like an hour. And I'm, right, we're going home and then I'll just like I'll set him up to where he hates it forever you know scare the hell out of him you know what happens at night right you know what I mean

do that kind of shit and he will never do it again no I I would do it if my son actually wanted to do it yeah but again it would be the most glamping of a situation for sure I'm not sleeping head-tamp vulnerable and I'm a deep sleeper bro like what are we doing here if I sleep through something like I don't want to do that you the bear ain't going to knock either. Yeah, exactly. There's going to be like, excuse me, can I eat you? You know what I mean? Pause. But I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to do that. And that's impossibility. I can't. I'm nervous even talking about it. Not nervous, but it's just, I think that, you know, I don't need

to do it. Here. You can also, they have those hotels where you can like, you're literally on the side of the mountain. You've seen those? Yes. Yeah, just do that, bro. Yeah. There's something like that in Zion. I was going to stay at one of those in Zion. Yeah, you could do that. You could just do it anywhere around the world. You don't have to do this anymore. you don't have to like go out and look you and Joe Rogan out there hunting whatever you're hunting you know elks and shit yeah

that bullshit is crazy the guy like disappears for like 10 days in woods or somewhere yeah he's the most amazing thing he's not so relax he's best he's the best but I'm not doing that shit either I'll just buy elk when you come back I'll just be like oh look what

is elk I got like I got it too cost me less you had to pay for flights you had to get this you that just hudson no i think it's so not an outdoors guy really i like the outdoors i do for a limited time only you know i'm not trying to be out there for a week yeah all day how does it feel today same shit you know like those people that buy houses in the middle of nowhere you've seen this like you know those uh those house hunting shows yeah and they got that house they're like we're actively searching for out and then it takes them like two and a half

hours to get into town by boat only i fucking hate you what do you do it nobody's gonna ever visit you, I'm never coming. You telling me I'm two and a half hours from my hospital? I'm fucked. One thing goes wrong. It's over. Yeah, I used to have that thought too. What do you?

I'm not a surgeon. I'm not like a, there's not, what do you? I don't have a helicopter out back where I can fly away. You got to learn no survival skills. And then they're like, got to learn to make sure that the tide's not too fast, you know, whatever the streams are going with some crazy rates. You don't miss the entrance to your house. Like, get the fuck out of here, bro.

What are you all doing? Just go hang, rent a Airbnb and then go home. to a real house that's close to real structure and hospitals and society. I just love. If I was like, if I lost everything, I would live like Rambo. Yeah, if I lost all my family,

God forbid a scenario like this, and I just never want to see another human being again, I get it. I would live in the woods and just give that up. That means I've lost all, everything that I've had in my life or heart, spirit and mind. I need to rediscover and build everything else and now I live with, you know, the lions in the jungle.

I don't know where lions exist, but I want to be close to lions. I feel like I could be really cool with lions. I don't know why. No, you sound like a white chick. Nah. Sound like a white chick. Yeah, they go, yeah, they just get my vibe.

Like the girls, I talked about this on the pod the other day. Girls like, I swear they're like, they think they'd be cool with lions because, like, they'll just get the vibe. Bro, how dare you say, compare me to this situation? I'm a really spiritual being that can get in and communicate with different. I feel like me and lions would be cool, bro. You sound like a crystal white girl. I swear to God.

I'm just talking to him, but listen, I know I look tasty because I got all this extra fat, but time out. You get the vibes. I can be very helpful. You get the vibes. You can be very helpful. Let me fix you up with these lionesses. That she goes swipe. You know what I mean?

You fucking did it, bro. It don't work like that. You don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you're right. No, you don't know. No, you don't know. You don't know.

I didn't know I had so much in common with white girls but let's see there you go I can't believe you compare me to that it's disgusting well it's been a pleasure I hope I want you to tell me where you're camping tomorrow I'm gonna fuck you this is the only time I'm ever going to camp

yeah I'm just stalk where you are and I'm gonna get those arrows and light that shit on fire at the end I'm sure make sure your mom is nowhere inside of course I'm not a monster and I'm just gonna you'll attend to be over with never want to camp again

Never went again again. And I'll be like, I told you, Bradley, Bradley, Bradley. You guys it'll echo. Yeah, because of the vibes. Yeah, thank you for giving me water. This is the worst podcast that I've done my life. Yo, I was going to ask you earlier if you want a water, especially when you were sweating. It's getting colder now.

Yeah, because the air conditioning knows it's so hot in here. It knows what's happening. This is the worst. I've never been to a podcast. We don't give you fucking water or anything for that matter. We're trying to give you a happy dad. Are you doing a happy mom? Is that what the whole thing is?

No, we're trying to give you a little water fast. Water fast? Yeah, we just thought maybe... You mean just a fast, you mean? Just a water fast. I think it's called fast. Fast? Did I not say fast?

You're just fasting. Water fast means you're only drinking water. To a point, right? And then you stop the water fast. Excuse me, you stop the water. You drink it, stop, and then drink little bits of it. You know more about this than I do. But I can definitely say the wording is off.

Feels like a little off. As a Muslim, fasting is just fasting. you fast from the three things for human survival food water and sex only during Ramadan from sun up to sundown that's a whole other conversation yeah right right get the fuck out of here yeah um yo thank you so much again um everyone go check out wild world this is such an obnoxious way to end it is oh you chewing what the fuck was that I'm eating a minute I thought you oh wait let me get one I need one oh now I'm serving you up thank you so much I don't even know I'll get you water I swear I'm going to get you water right when we step out of here I'm be honest with you

I don't know if I have an extra one. I don't need to wipe the sweat off. Oh, a cigarette? No. You smoke cigarettes? Yep. Nice. Nicotine.

Yeah, I don't have anymore. Okay, that's fine. Well, we're going to train. I love you. You're awesome. You know, anything you want to say,

like a fine, whatever. I hope you really watch Wild World. Put my heart into it. And if you haven't seen season two of Mo, I highly encourage that. I hope you see guys out there for sure, man. Thank you.

One more question. I don't want to prolong it, but do you know the viewership of that? Like, do you get reports on how many people watched it? No, not really. You don't get all that. You get like certain data points and then it's over, but they don't search, like, beyond that.

Okay. And then at some point they release, like, how much total view or all that? You just, I give my information. Am I settling out on the road? People come out or people enjoy it. The reactions are, I consume myself with making the television show

and the stand up and that's all I think about. Well, you did a fucking amazing job. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. And you're, you're very fucking talented. Obviously, even beyond just comedy. Thanks, man. I appreciate you, bro. Yeah, it's been a pleasure.

Thank you, man. You're fucking awesome. My pleasure, bro. Yeah, enjoy your time with your mom tomorrow. That's going to be fun.