RAWTALK - Nate Diaz Paid To Take A Dive Against Jake Paul August 5th?

Episode Date: July 18, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let me know if I'm breathing there. I don't want to be out in here like... Oh, you'll be good. Yeah, you'll be good. I hate when I'm watching some shit in there. Yeah, they're tight on it, yeah. Well, man, it's an honor. Fucking UFC legend.
Starting point is 00:00:12 I'm really, really, like, really grateful you come out to have this conversation with me. So, first and foremost, obviously, everyone knows you've got a fight coming up. Not like your normal fight, though, right? Completely different? Yeah, big part difference. It's, uh, do you think it's going to, like, obviously I'm going to sit here and ask you the question.
Starting point is 00:00:33 You think you're going to win, you're going to lose, whatever. Obviously, I don't think you ever say you're going to lose. But why do you think this fight is going to be easy for you? Well, I don't think it's going to be easy. I don't think any fight's easy. Yeah. Even if they get done in a minute or less, and usually that has to do with the preparation and stuff. But, uh, um, I don't want an easy fight.
Starting point is 00:00:56 I want hard fights I want the biggest fights, the best fights that you could get and that's what I made me for off the bat to fight fight on the biggest stage in front of the most people
Starting point is 00:01:11 against the biggest opponent against the most opponent so I think that's what I'm dealing with here right now at the moment at this point in time and that's what I'm doing yeah obviously like in your UFC career
Starting point is 00:01:25 you're you know I don't know if you're as equally as a striker as you are a submission artist, but I know you have a lot more submissions as far as wins go. How is boxing going to be different for you? Because I know you trained boxing prior to even UFC stuff, but like how much of your training throughout your whole UFC career has been striking, it has been boxing? The whole time I've been boxing.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Just like how boxers do, I bring in pro boxers since I've been spot pro boxers since i was 15 16 years old and uh 16 17 years old and uh and uh i train with the best i could find always and uh same goes with jiu jutsu yeah on the ground i've always been training with the highest level of jiu jitsu since i started when i started at caesar gracy uh jiu jitsu uh i was training with a guy name with guys named Dave Terrell Gil Casillo, Caesar Gracie, and the highest
Starting point is 00:02:28 level of jiu-tzu at the time and I learned right there we're from the Best Academy because we train with the highest level of people so it all started all at once and so when I started fighting
Starting point is 00:02:45 we found the highest level kickboxers, the highest level jujitch guys the highest level wrestlers and boxers so that's been my whole career so before we get more like how you started into this i want to address the whole jake paul thing because i've always been curious about this because like you know you saw the askeran fight we saw these fights that he went into the fury one obviously didn't go the way that i thought it was going to go just because i was so convinced that like jake had these fights fixed and there's a lot of people who talk about the fights being fixed because it's just the way it is
Starting point is 00:03:18 um yeah they tell me that too they're like tell me you're not gonna take a fall against paul everybody says that to me i'm like are you kidding me you can't pay me on all the money in the world to fall on anybody anybody ever i'm like what the so there was never conversations about stuff like that about like yo no if there was i wish there was so i could tell on him okay i love i know snitch but i'll tell on that bitch yeah no i mean don't Definitely on that, like that, because I'm curious about that. Because I really wanted to ask you that because, I mean, from the outside looking in, obviously I don't know you on a super personal level.
Starting point is 00:03:56 But you've been clearly one of the most genuine, just like straight up fighters that the UFC's ever seen. Like the way you care of yourself, the way you just like don't give a shit and you're just unapologetically yourself. Which I want to give you a ton of props for that, man. Like you're a legend in the sport. Yeah, I appreciate it. That's why I really wanted to have this conversation with you about the fight with Jake because, you know, I saw all the fights and I was like, you know is this bullshit like is he bullshit i mean now it's like you see him fight you know he's fighting tom you're like he is really putting into work and he is really putting in the effort
Starting point is 00:04:24 so obviously now it's this fight specifically i feel like if he loses it to you everyone's gonna be like go fuck off jake because he already lost the last one so i think he's coming in really hot like i think he's taking this more serious than ever also considering it to you because i think he thinks like i mean he's obviously going for a knockout you're obviously going for a knockout but you don't really get knocked out that easily like in fact like you you just quite arguably probably one of the most durable fighters taking the most damage um i guess my question to follow up on that is how do you think this fight's going to go with you and jay yeah i think he's got uh he's got i could see his passion in fighting in boxing
Starting point is 00:05:09 just the way he trained and talks about training yeah and uh and you i know i know i know like people who start training with me that when they when they when they start training a little bit or just touch it it over consumes their whole life just like it did me when I started too so I could see that in him and I could smell it in him and I could see how it puts all is everything into it yeah and I know I know that that that's a that's a guy you got to worry about and that's a problem and the confidence too that's just that Connor came on a scene like that and And he's coming on a scene like that. And no matter how they go about it, you can see the passion in it.
Starting point is 00:05:52 But I've been in there having that same passion the whole time. And it's still going. And I still believe that I'm here to make history, too, and show how it keeps on going past what people have done ever, you know. So until the end of time. And this is just. It's just a piece of the pot. Another day.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah, that's how we do it. And I, fuck him. Yeah, yeah, I love it. So let's talk a little bit about, like, how you really got into fighting in the first place. Like, how did you find the sport? How did you find M.MA? My brother was fighting, man, don't get me started. No, we got to get you started.
Starting point is 00:06:40 So my whole life, I'm waking up to, I'm waking up to, uh, my brother fucking, we, what do I start? I'm, I'm in, I'm in ninth grade, eighth grade, seventh grade, middle school. And, uh, I'm, my whole neighbor is coming home. My, my bedroom door was to the outside of, uh, the side of the side of the house. It's my bedroom outside in my brother's room. You go through my room, look at my brother's room. And, uh, I'm waking up.
Starting point is 00:07:15 sixth grade out my window 11 p.m. on Friday night, 12.30 p.m. a.m. on a.m. on Friday night and I'm waking up to all kind of noise out my window. All these guys, whoa, and I come outside and my brother and 20 the homies from the neighborhood are talking about, we're just at this party. We f*** these dudes at the whole, the whole party. We're like, us forward, back against the world, fighting these motherfuckers. This happened and that happened. And I'm just, like, looking back and forth, everybody. And I cracked this dude, and then I hate this dude.
Starting point is 00:07:52 And I don't know what's getting hit. And everybody's talking about the whole fight, like, homies versus homies. And I'm just, like, sitting there like, wow, man, I can't wait to fight with you guys somewhere, you know, just right off the bat. So then, and then fights happened in high school, fights happened in middle school. You grew up in it. I grew up, I grew up, and everything was every weekend when somebody was fighting, and it was just like, and I wasn't out fighting everybody. I wasn't even like a fighter, fighting type of, I was more into just kicking with all the
Starting point is 00:08:26 homies and joking and laughing about everything, right? But then this became some thing, and then my brother got, uh, my brother stopped going to high school. He was like, man, he was getting fighting with people at school. Started training and, uh, started working out of, a gym weightlifting gym and was doing all kinds of workouts and in the back of the gym with mats and a boxing wing and it was a training training facility in there and he started training with the guys he got me in the training with him and first he came to I was fighting after
Starting point is 00:09:04 school at a park and he showed and my whole family my family and my neighbor was already notified people and so I I'm fighting at the park after school. I remember I got a little fight with a kid in like fifth period. Did you win? No, well, we got in like, fuck you, fuck you fight. And we're like, all right, I have to school at the park, bitch, and then, like, so we meet
Starting point is 00:09:24 at the park. Yeah. And everybody through school, I'm in ninth grade, everybody through school, like all these people know my brother and all my homies, so they're like they're like, they're like, walking up to me, like, word got around there, walking and I'm like, what's up, you're going to whip the
Starting point is 00:09:40 food after school, and I remember hearing me like, get the Call of me. What the fuck you're talking to me about finding this fool? So because they're putting pressure on. Yeah. I'm like, dude. And, uh... Do you feel like you had to fight him?
Starting point is 00:09:53 Well, I was gonna fight him. There was no, had to. Okay. We're meeting after school, and everybody's coming up to me. You're gonna whip this fool there? I'm just like, get away from me. And now I still did this day, the same thing. It's like media, man, MMMA media.
Starting point is 00:10:05 People coming out to me. I have to fight in the go. And so we meet up at the school. After school, I remember it's like a quarter mile to the park. and we're walking and there's just a group of everybody's missing their buses
Starting point is 00:10:16 to walk and see the fight and I get to the park I'm walking up to the park crossing the street and there's 300 people at the park so I'm already headlined
Starting point is 00:10:27 fights in freshman year at the park and I get there and then my brother's there all the homies are there like woo you got that pressure man I like
Starting point is 00:10:37 so the pressure was on from the beginning and I'm fine it's going to park anyways fight goes on 20 minutes it felt like 30 minutes
Starting point is 00:10:46 but it's probably 5 minutes long way it felt like the longest I'm fighting this guy in front everybody I didn't win he didn't win we both just socked each
Starting point is 00:10:52 on the face a hundred times each yeah and we go home I piss police call my house my mom's like you're suspended already
Starting point is 00:11:02 five days and I'm like all right cool and I'm sitting there and my brother's like already on the way he's I'm 13 How old are you when you're a freshman?
Starting point is 00:11:12 Yeah, about 14, 14 years old. My brother's 15, and he's like, he's like, what's up? You want to come to gym with me? I'm about, I had to train right now. I was like, I'm going to chill. And he's like, you better get up off your ass with that shit. He performance earlier at the park. And I was like, I was embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I got my shit. Like, fuck shit. Go. Went to the gym with him. And I started training right there. And that's basically where it started. And it never did you never stop all right guys this podcast sponsored by better help check this out I've talked about this many many times but it never is any less important mental health if you
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Starting point is 00:12:19 Again, so go to betterhelp.com slash rock talk to get 10% off your first month. Better H-E-L-P dot com slash raw talk to get 10% off your first month. Let's get back into this podcast. Right then, I was about how old was I said 14? 14, yeah. I was kind of in and out a little bit here and there, 14, 15. I learned about Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and about how if you were a blue belt you could take out anybody in any size and I watch all the Gracie in action tapes and UFC 1 and so hold on
Starting point is 00:12:53 I got to stop you a quick so you're talking Jiu-jitsu you think you could take out anyone at any size in like a when I was when I was 14 yeah I learned that like if you're a bluebell I would see I've seen it though like factual like I've seen the tapes of big dude for fighting little dudes, and then there's the UFC one with Hoyst Gracie and all that stuff. And I was like, wow, I already feel like I could whip everybody to that. Imagine if I learned this shit. So, that kicked off right there. So it was all in popping.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I love it. So when did you start to take it really serious? Obviously, you started it there, but when were you like, yo, I'm really like, when did you start to realize you were good at it? And then I kept going to school, and I was like 16 years old. I remember I had a girlfriend, and we were. like her cousin were all gangsters and shit and I was like
Starting point is 00:13:43 all right well and then she'd be like I'm with my cousin when everybody thought they were tired and I'm like fuck these fools too I'm like everybody fucking whoop these fools ass and then I'm talking and I'm like I'll whip their ass and then I'm like I'm like whatever and then I'm like
Starting point is 00:13:58 I feel like I'll whip everybody's ass but 15 years old you actually kind of got some doubt in they're like man maybe I can't whip all them about I'm good and so I'm like ready to fight all these gangers on these big people and then there's high school high school you're freshmen and they're seniors yeah so that's a big difference like now four years apart ain't big deal but when you're when you're when you're 15 and there's 17 year old big 250 pound football but so you're like so now
Starting point is 00:14:25 I'm walking around I'm like oh whip everyone's ass but I'm like I don't the insecurity of not being able to so then when I found when I when I started getting into her and started piece of ways with her one about 15 16 I I I think quit. I stopped going to school and started doing Jiu-Jitsu every day. I remember like six months after every day doing Jiu-Jitsu with my boys and my brother, and I was like, on there like you're doing a tournament.
Starting point is 00:14:53 You're doing a tournament since six months and we're like, so we're training for the tournament. And I remember some homies calling me up like, yo, what's up? Hommies is over here and they're from, let's roll over there. Let's go to the party about my girlfriend's new, new boyfriend and her friend and he's like homies hit me up like whoa and by this time now I'm
Starting point is 00:15:13 training every day I'm like I'm good well I'm gonna look like over there tripping off this girl anyway yeah and then plus I have I have actually a tournament like three months I didn't tell him that but I'm thinking I'm like I got a tournament like three months against some like actual real competition because now I'm training everywhere I'm fucking up anybody big guys little guys people people I'm like these guys aren't even an issue for me yeah so So it became the new issue with the competition. I had to go compete at. Prior to that, prior to like the competition, like the actual, like legit competition,
Starting point is 00:15:48 was it just like gang shit where you grew up, like little kid like gang shit or just like? Yeah, but not really like gangs, but, you know, yeah, I guess. But we're like the homies. Yeah. But I wasn't in the end of fights everywhere, but it was just like that. Like, if I wasn't fighting, somebody was fighting somebody always. Where did you develop the idea of like, I'll just beat the fuck out of anyone?
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yeah, because I love that about you. That's what I mean, though. When I was younger, it was a chip on my shoulder because I was just a kid. I had a girlfriend, and then my brother and all my homeboys
Starting point is 00:16:21 fought everybody everywhere anyway. So, uh, it just kind of was there. Like, everybody fights. Yeah. You know? And then when I got older
Starting point is 00:16:31 and started competing, I thought, oh, wow, that shit was all crazy. Yeah, when you realize, what the fuck was I doing? That's all crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Cool, though. still cool I think people are down to squad people but I'm like there's no need to fight everywhere or anything
Starting point is 00:16:45 What's the biggest dude you've ever fought? It's not that big I don't know You can beat me in a street fight Huh You think you beat me in a street fight? You in a street fight?
Starting point is 00:16:55 Yeah You're a podcaster brother I love it I love it So the answers Then yes Yeah Of course
Starting point is 00:17:04 I love it I love it Not you personal No by anybody any size is like easy no i was talking about me yeah because i asked devon hayney he thought the boxer he thought he beat me in a street fight one yeah yeah yeah yeah but yeah he probably fuck you up too though you think so but no you really think but but but but no no i said probably you up you think a 150 pound i think i think i think i think uh realistically
Starting point is 00:17:29 you're talking about devon hayney the boxer the boxer the boxer 150 no i think he'd find you but if you grabbed a hold of him like it's different and you're talking about me too so it's different like look you're different to me than i know yeah for sure like like like if you fought devon hayney you got to get him good you got to grab that little oh that's it yeah yeah yeah and that's it right so you get a hold of him you grab a hold of he's probably most likely dead yeah yeah but you you grab a hold of me you're dead I love it straight up I love it
Starting point is 00:18:05 I love it I don't know that's just different I don't know I don't know that's a whole other story though that's a real fight though I think I might be able to get you yeah yeah won't
Starting point is 00:18:14 I fucking love you ever try though oh my God what one of these days difference what's that I said that's the difference that fucking
Starting point is 00:18:24 jujitsu versus boxing what are you in there you're gonna grab that phone smash and you grab a whole of me yeah yeah different one of these days we should fuck around now tomorrow tonight bro i would love that let's go after this oh my god i would love that i would love that but i but i don't want to like you know i don't want to hurt you before the fight
Starting point is 00:18:41 no you won't i got actually a little on me out back that we got you go with elize which one right here yeah yeah i go with him first and then if i get the if i get the good yeah yeah i got to i know i got to level up but no i know you're different i knew you're different i just want to ask you that question yeah a lot of motherfuck is probably real mad at me right now it is about a hundred percent different though a hundred percent jiu-jit-to and there's fucking boxing boxing boxes
Starting point is 00:19:06 boxers don't understand boxing boxing does I mean they probably do too not really but they're turtles on their back well they're just thinking about this and they think they're going to get an uppercut
Starting point is 00:19:20 before you and say you're not going to get the uppercut yeah so so okay so as far as as like your career go I have a question about so you're completely done with the UFC will you ever come back like will you ever fight again in the ufc yeah you will yeah okay do you do you know when that would
Starting point is 00:19:40 be i'm gonna get this fight done with and then everything changes with everything fight people don't understand that everything changes with every fight like the fight show last week and every fight show that happens changes the whole fucking how do you say it like there's a whole bracket Like as far as... When a fight happens, everything changes, like, you know... Even a fight that's out of the UFC. Good... Out of the UFC, big performances, good performances.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Motherfuckus Pobligity. Jake Paul comes in and seen yelling crazy shit at people. Yeah. And you're like, dude, this guy actually thinks he'll beat everybody's fucking ass and it's louder than all you fools who are really beating people's ass. Yeah. So now I have to step the fuck out the box real quick and whip this motherfucker's ass so everyone knows who's the real ass whipper.
Starting point is 00:20:26 You understand what I'm saying? Absolutely. So I was like, well, that's a messmatch, this and that. I'm like well then you fucking fight a motherfucker make sure that the best fights happen that everybody want to see me to happen because that's what I'm here to see
Starting point is 00:20:39 when I'm watching fighting it That's what we all want to see You know what I'm saying And so I'm like And this was popping off And everybody's like We're a real fight and like Oh yeah proven motherfucker
Starting point is 00:20:48 He'll beat his ass for talking shit Yeah I like it So there's some people in the fight game That are just kind of like They're pussy for talking like that Because like if they say it But they're not out stepping to do it But then again they don't all get the
Starting point is 00:20:59 They don't get the opportunity to do it, right? Because Jake's also picking people that he knows is going to make a big fight. Like, you, I know historically, I pulled like massive pay-per-view numbers. So, of course he's trying to go towards you. You know what I'm saying? Because you're Yeah. You're like a fucking, you're He was going after everybody, though.
Starting point is 00:21:14 That's true. Why did you take... People don't understand that, though. Yeah, fighters are like, well, but on that big a stage where he's making everybody believe that, like, you're letting this guy talk shit to the whole roster and they know what's saying shit. I'm louder than the roster? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:30 The UFC's big, but the roster. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And then he was talking shit to Connor. Yeah, he was trying to get the Connor from. He was talking shit to Connor and dissing his wife and shit on some real disrespectful stuff that he shouldn't have been saying. And nobody's saying shit. I'm the one who said, fucking shut the fuck up, bitch.
Starting point is 00:21:49 That fool will whip your real ass, have some, your ass run. Have some respect. Like in real life, too. You're going to disrespect somebody's wife and stuff like that who will actually whip your ass to get a fight like that. That surpasses the fight game. Yeah. Like, that's a real fight. And you should shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And no one's saying anything because everybody's acting like the whole, the whole roster in the UFC. Everybody's acting like, he's a fake fighter. He can't really find me. Yeah, but he should shut the fuck up. Yeah. And no one's speaking up and saying shut the fuck up. Yeah. So they shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Yeah. And then everything escalated at whatever. And I'm like, all, well, shit. Let me handle what I got to handle. And then I'll be out. Remember I told you over there. I wouldn't find you. I thought.
Starting point is 00:22:29 No, yeah. We was at the, in Vegas. Yeah, I think my brother was fine that day, right? Yeah. Yeah, we was in Vegas. I ran into you. Yeah, but I was like, I got a fucking, I got a boy someone who has to get this show on the road, but they don't want to let me, they don't want to let me go. Yeah, I remember I was like, yeah, because like, you asked me about Paul.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Yes. You asked me about Paul, remember? Yeah. And I like, well, shit, I got to do. I'm not going to talk shit, though. I'm not a shit talker. Yeah. I'm not going to go fucking say, oh, I'm going to fight Paul.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I'm like, second con. Let me get out of contract. I can handle what I remember that conversation. And it was an option for sure But there were a bunch of options The whole time there were options Yeah But I was in contract
Starting point is 00:23:01 So I'm not gonna be like Yeah, I'll fucking fight him on this Talking shit People are talking a bunch of shit now You know Like like Jake Talking shit to Connor and everybody
Starting point is 00:23:12 And the whole ride Everybody's just in shit I was like someone Tell him to shut the fuck up No Do you think Connor would ever fight him If he was free If he was free
Starting point is 00:23:21 Yeah I'm sure he was Fight him Why would you not He's fucking talking all the shit and he's like you need to fight people like on the yeah there's fucking uh criteria you know what I'm saying and that motherfucking meets it and a lot of people do but a lot of people don't also and then those people you find a bathroom yeah I love that I love it okay so so fight him in the bathroom um so with the Jake stuff um have you done anything different
Starting point is 00:23:52 a random bathroom that no one knows about. Have you ever cracked anyone in the bathroom? Now, that didn't deserve it. If they, if they were fucking with me. I'm a counterfighter. I don't, I don't start problems with people. Yeah. But if a problem, if problems come at you, you got to defend yourself.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Yeah, for sure. So, so have you, have you done anything differently in your training with Jake? I'm assuming it's probably just all boxing at this point, because you, that's it. Less jujitsu. I can feel all my jiu-jitsu partners. looking at me like when get your ass back over here so i'm gonna come train with all them when i'm done so i and during too a little bit too but i want to when i'm done when i'm coming back with vengeance ready roll so you are roll you know these guys i feel like you're talking to them
Starting point is 00:24:40 person everybody trains that i roll in with so um so them too you're gonna get back to the ufc after this yeah most like them i'm gonna go back i mean if they'll have me i would love to Go back to the UFC, yeah. What does, what does Dana think about you fighting Jake? Yeah, well, I know, I know, I'm, my personal opinion, I think Dana White wanted me to whip his ass, but they don't want to say that he wants me to whip his ass because he's got, that's not his business, he's to stay out of it.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Yeah. And at the same time, I think he really doesn't care. If I get my ass whipped, then he'd be like, I told you guys, you know what I'm saying? Either way. I got love for Danny either way. I don't care what he says. That's, that's all business.
Starting point is 00:25:20 And I love to him. I just want to do my thing and get back, get back to where yeah what i do it's fight fight for real do you think he'll let you back if you lose to jake uh it's a possibility we'll see what happened it's a possibility we'll see what happen okay um so i have a question about like your your training uh but not specifically like the fight training your nutrition stuff do you do anything different like have you done anything different for this camp that you didn't do for any of your other fights or you just always kind of do the same shit yeah i ate a lot of food a lot of food
Starting point is 00:25:52 Like you get your weight. That's worth saying nutrition, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I've been eating a lot of food and getting heavier. I did the same things. Because what is his weight at?
Starting point is 00:26:03 Didn't he, you had to come up to his weight? Yeah, I've got to go no 185. Do you feel, do you feel slower? I did at first when I was eating a bunch of food and trying to get big. It was like, I was trying, I was eating, I was on a weight gain diet. I was eating all kinds of stuff and getting as big as I could. And then to a certain point, I was just like, dude, I'm lazy and tired and I'm working out like a meathead right now. You're doing bodybuilding shit?
Starting point is 00:26:30 I mean, I mean, I'm, yeah, yeah, I'm lifting weights and bodybuilding and all that stuff. And it makes you tired and lazy. Didn't make me tired and lazy. No, I mean, I mean, carrying the extra weight. Yeah, for sure. It makes me tired and tired and drow-jazzy. So at a certain point, I eased up on it. I got a new rhythm
Starting point is 00:26:52 and a new new plan that I kind of created on my own and I had a lot more energy and started doing things I was eating a lot at first and blown up as much as I could and then now I kind of do a fast
Starting point is 00:27:05 for half of the day and pick get down get down when I get down do you notice fast before every two hours by my man my dude I'm exhausted everywhere I go I'm about a train
Starting point is 00:27:15 doing the stuff I love to do and I like to do and I'm sitting there like oh man I don't even want to go tired all right it's time ago yeah but then i stopped and i and i i eased up on a little weight and then uh i i had more energy and i kind of kind of got in rhythm now yeah fasting's amazing i've been doing it for years like i have so much more mental clarity yeah do you train fasted well my whole career i trained fasted pretty much because i was making 155 from when i was
Starting point is 00:27:41 18 until i was about 24 26 something like that yeah and i was i was making 155 it was insane I was on a diet all day, running all day, training, and then running again, it was nonstop. Basically, I was in jail for, like, a lot of years. When you're starving, you're in jail, dude, it's horrible. Oh, my God. Like, nobody knows hunger. Like, I've probably done the most drastic weight cuts ever. What was the hardest, the hardest weight cut you've ever had for what fight?
Starting point is 00:28:16 Probably when I fought. they're like six of them they were all through I can't even say I'm going to say when I was about 20 21 down about 24 I was kind of wait drastically and then I'd I'd I'd blow up after a fight I'd blow up from 155 I'd be a week later I'd be 185 188 like four days as in a week oh yeah and then so anytime I wasn't fighting I was It's fat as hell. And then I just be like, okay, time, two months. And I had real, real strong discipline where I just, okay, I'd pig out and drink some
Starting point is 00:28:58 beer and hang out. And then it'd be like, okay, two months is tomorrow, two and a half months this tomorrow. I'd, like, get down and then I'd wake up and I'd have eggs in the salad for lunch. Did you ever have a hard time sticking your diet when you had to, or was it just like that? I was pretty disciplined. It was like that. But nowadays it's harder. So that's why I'm like, go up.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Like, all right, so eat a lot more. I'm like, man, I almost missed a diet more. So then I started doing the fasting, and I started feeling better. I started feeling normal and feeling. Fasting is amazing? Thinking better, for sure. Amazing. So is your diet typically like, are you not a vegan, are you?
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Starting point is 00:30:40 So I eat, I eat... Vegetarian? I'll go on and off for months at the time, but I'm pretty much vegan. but I and I don't do gluten but not 100% so you don't eat meat and I don't but I do eat seafood and I do eat eggs
Starting point is 00:30:57 oh so fuck fuck chicken and fuck fish yeah I don't eat fish though yeah yeah that's the same fucking we eat I don't eat chicken or red meat or anything but like the chickens that have the eggs fuck them you know for the veg yeah but I'm not like vegan like that
Starting point is 00:31:14 I'm vegan because I'm messed up my diet my fucking the way my body worked I'm not like a so did you did you ever get like did you ever get blood work done
Starting point is 00:31:23 to see like what works best for no you just figured I did not I just know what I feel I do everything
Starting point is 00:31:30 but I feel like what feels better and uh when I like when I stopped eating me I didn't I loved me I was like
Starting point is 00:31:37 grabbing on carnacella burritos all day long that was my thing and um I stopped I started cutting weight and I was like I was doing it
Starting point is 00:31:46 thing I could I was running all day working out all day on a diet exhausted and uh so this my brother was like quitting me anything quitting meat and cheese you'll you'll you'll start starting weight and I so I stopped that and I did I started dropping like two pounds doing the same stuff yeah same stuff just just cut the meat and the dairy and uh so I made weight and then I would train for two and a fight and then I started trying to fight real consistently. I fought like five times a year for a couple years. This is really interesting. Did you feel better too
Starting point is 00:32:25 while you were eating the fish and the egg? So when I started cutting away, I didn't really notice on how I felt. I've noticed that I didn't like, I noticed that I didn't like I didn't like
Starting point is 00:32:41 seafood and shit as much as I like me. But I didn't noticed the feeling and then i i fought two and a half a month more but i stopped dairy i stopped stop me i cut like a six seven extra pounds easy and uh easier and then i uh fought and then so i'd go back and i'd like have some tri-tip with the homies at a barbecue and eat a bunch of real stuff and then uh a bunch of meat and stuff and then so then i started fighting actively five times a year and I I I I try two months I dieted I fought and then afterwards I was like let's have let's have some meat and then I I'd eat to meet and then my stomach would get
Starting point is 00:33:31 all jacked up and then it'd be like they'd be like yo we're coming over tomorrow we'll run that we'll run at 10 a.m. I'm like all right cool I get up and I'm like man I don't feel like running I'd be like you know got to go to the bathroom bunch and I wasn't working like I couldn't move as quick as everybody and then I go I'd go on to run anyway but I'd feel like shit yeah so then I train that I'd train for the fight two months I'd do it again and then I'd be like I remember eating like a fredicini alfredo like getting down and like hey this is the bomb and then and then I was like jacked up for three or four days so after a certain point of actively fighting and actively making weight I was like I'm done with that shit so you just realized you
Starting point is 00:34:08 felt better. I'm not down for that feeling anymore. And still to this day, if you cook a bunch of meat by me, like some ribs and some stuff like that, it still smells good and looks good and everything. Yeah, of course. Yeah, but I'm like, I'm good off the feeling. You like just the way that it makes you feel better? The way it makes me feel better for sharp performer. I get a lot more done. That's something I feel like I need to try because I've been running more. Not that I'm like trying to like, obviously I'm not fighting and shit, but the fish and the eggs, what? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. So you can bring that in here? Go see if you're going to...
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yeah, bring it in here. So I wanted to talk about this too. The weed thing is like... It's like... I was asking you early before you walked in here. Obviously, I didn't know that it was illegal, but I was asking you had you ever been high, like, in a fight. But you smoke before you came up to a fight.
Starting point is 00:34:59 But I guess there's time before the fight, so it's not active in your system? Yeah, you can't smoke. The old rules, I think you would have to stop, a month but I stop a couple weeks out and then uh and then like uh nowadays everything's different so like in Dallas Texas in Texas I'm gonna have to uh stop about a couple weeks out so oh shit because this party that's kind of like part of your training the smoking no uh you said you I mean can you talk can you talk about this all yeah it's cool yeah
Starting point is 00:35:33 yeah no I smoke when I train I smoke whenever I want. I love it. Would you consider yourself a pot head? Because you gotta be like the most active? No, I know some pides. No, you're not that. No.
Starting point is 00:35:53 But you're, I mean, damn, I'm impressed. I'm impressed how much you get done smoking like that. You just didn't see my brother when I was younger. Let me get some just for the, for the vibes for the culture, right here. I have to do it. My brother would smoke so much weed. all my old life was crazy
Starting point is 00:36:08 like in fifth grade and I'm like quit smoking in here I'm waking up to the whole house just smelling like weed I'm like though when did you start smoking weed I'm not a little older
Starting point is 00:36:23 probably like 14 or 15 that's a little older I smoked a little bit yeah well my brother and all them were smoking weed the whole fucking time when I was a third grader and a little kid
Starting point is 00:36:32 yeah I remember all my friends smoked weed I was so afraid of doing it so afraid of doing it doing it. To this day, if I smoke too much, I get real bad anxiety. Are there any other drugs that you, like recreational drugs that you enjoy? Can you talk about? I pretty much just smoke weed and I eat some
Starting point is 00:36:49 mushrooms here and there. I love mushrooms. Big mushrooms. I eat more mushrooms now than ever, actually, though, because I never microdoses, or microdose. Yeah, that's what I do. Yeah, I never microdosed before. So you just take a bunch of mushrooms? Well, when I was younger, yeah, we would always eat like an eighth or three or four grams. or something like that and we would just be
Starting point is 00:37:08 I think and people would start microdose and you're just running around any mushrooms around you like a normal person that's weird that's crazy you think that's weird well I thought that would be crazy but then I ate a little bit of a mushroom a couple times and yeah it was cool
Starting point is 00:37:24 what do you like about it it's so I mean for me it's just like just changes the mood it kind of makes you a little bit more open and aware yeah like easier to learn things easier to understand have you ever have you ever taken mushrooms like microdose and then train. I wonder what that's like. Because I'll take microdosis
Starting point is 00:37:39 and I'll train, obviously, but it's bodybuilding different than fighting. Yeah, I fucking ate some mushrooms one time and we're all going to box. Me and all the homies and there wasn't like a, we didn't have nobody coming in a sparse or like, fuck it, we all ate some shrooms. And then we're going in and my coach was there, he didn't make us all spar each other. And then fucking, I was good, but then we got in there and I was like, oh, I'm fucked up. I hope I don't get here right now.
Starting point is 00:38:03 It's a fucking sketchy, but then I actually did it really good but yeah I'd rather not either way I'll deal with it but I don't like to eat them like when I'm trying in or anything yeah but the weed you do pretty consistently I don't care I'll do all that shit whenever actually sometimes I'll end up rolling around a little bit
Starting point is 00:38:23 I'll be like fuck do you think Connor would ever fight you again Connor yeah yeah me and him should be fighting I would like I mean I'm not like asking this fool to go do shit or none but like he's got he's got some I'd love to see it I want to see him we'll go with some fucking ass myself like I know
Starting point is 00:38:46 he'll beat up all these motherfuckers if things they're tired but uh at some point our times will come I'd love to see everything's about timing I used to get mad about a lot of shit like I wanted a rematch right off when I gave him the rematch yeah so I was back to back yeah and I was like okay Okay, when I figure just roll a thumb thing. I was like, oh, all right. Well, I'll get mine back then, and then this fool fucking... I've always had been the key to people getting shit, though, for, like, people don't pay attention.
Starting point is 00:39:16 And they're not supposed to, because it's my life, not theirs. But people fucking... Like, I was fighting a lot of fighters for a lot of years, and everybody who fought me got a title shot. Yeah. And, like, if I won, then I would just fight somebody else. But if they won, they would get a title shot. So, what is that stepping stone or some shit like that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Well, I was, like, young. too though because I had all the entertaining fights everybody's watching me so like we want this guy to be a guy put him against an eight yeah you find a lot of the top guys I always fought yeah I fought I fought like four fights in UFC and after that I fought ranked opponents the whole time yeah every time then till all the way till now yeah I'm saying was that by design for you or just like that's what they were talking yeah well I didn't want to fight no lanes I want to fight the good people always you know and that's why that's why I believe people will remember my fight forever compared to
Starting point is 00:40:05 other people's fights even I got the losses and shit people like his losses like hey half the people I thought
Starting point is 00:40:11 that I beat want to rematch me now like but then who really won yeah yeah I seem to say
Starting point is 00:40:19 you know what I'm saying yeah so and that's forever and I think that fucking like people people fucking real shit and they
Starting point is 00:40:26 I don't even they're conscious of it like a lot of people are like okay that's why I feel my my folks because they feel me That's fucking
Starting point is 00:40:35 Yeah, you're a real one Who are some of the In your opinion The most impactful fighters In the sport in the UFC Besides yourself, obviously Because that would probably be the answer I'd say like
Starting point is 00:40:47 I fucking like My brother BJ Pan BJ Penn You know BJ Penn was the reason Why I went viral years ago When I jumped out of a pool Oh really?
Starting point is 00:40:58 Oh because he did that Because he jumped out of the hot tub And that what he said? Yeah I jumped out of a four and a half foot But I'm not measured Yeah not tight I'm a little taller.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Now I know, though, that's sick. But no, that's why I did it, because I saw him do it. And you knew you could do it when he seen it on. And I was like, I was like, everyone thought it was cool because he went viral and I was like, I can do that shit. But yeah, he, he, he inspired me on that. But, okay, continue. Other, other fighters. BJ Penn and I got a lot of love for BJ Penn.
Starting point is 00:41:22 And he's fucking dope. My brother, first and foremost, is the guy. Yeah. But I think he was, he brought him back to a lot of shit. And he was one of the first ones. Like, they wanted him on Ultimate Fighter when he was young, young. They're like, fuck that. I'm going somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:41:35 He went to do some other shit. Yeah. I think that's when he fought Gomi, you know? When he, when he, they won him on Ultimate Fighter? I don't know. That might have been before. I got to look at the books.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I got to look at the play, but what happened? But he left and did his own thing. He was never like, and then the UFC always won him back. He ended up back too, but he went got titles everywhere. So, and, and, and, said, the game, Chal Sonan. Chil Sonan did a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:42:04 chose on his man BJ Penn I got love for BJ Penn He's the shit I used to watch BJ Penn Step all the time And then he had to
Starting point is 00:42:12 find him and Nick were fighting My brother And I think Fuck It's big That big Yeah
Starting point is 00:42:19 I was like Fucking BJ With the head I don't find my brother But then It all got Lending over with And time went by
Starting point is 00:42:25 And I still Still see BJ Penn doing tight shit Who else Chuck Lidell Chuck Lidell is the man Boy's great
Starting point is 00:42:34 Gracie. Who you got? What about you? I mean, it's a lot. Definitely as far as impactful, the ones you said. I mean, I would also say Connor, obviously. Yeah, for sure. And Connor, for sure.
Starting point is 00:42:43 I thought that's what it started with, right? It was Connor. Kind of that's why I was mad, though, because that's why, that's why. He's just popping up on a scene after I've been on the scene for hell of years. It's like, whoa, I'm shit. Well, excuse me. Well, he was a loudest.
Starting point is 00:42:58 That's what I mean, though. And then they were like, hell yeah, and they're kicking it in the ass. I'm like, when I say, fuck you. everybody says shut up yeah so I was hot I was like nah and I left it alone but then when he went to a press conference with everybody all the fighters and uh he started popping off to cowboys throwing in all the guys in the bigger weight class I said all right cool now I got some of the ass whimp you know what I'm saying because I can't go yelling at a 45 pounder yeah I get so I was like he started popping up to the big guy like well whoa I like all right cool now I
Starting point is 00:43:28 now I'm not out of line yeah I ain't no bully I'm in like yeah I don't even like the bully feel that's what I'm saying so I just like a little 45 pound loud ass motherfucker and all the love ain't nobody show me no love when I say fuck you and I'm and fucking uh
Starting point is 00:43:46 so I think I know what to do and then Johnson just knocked out Poyer his fucking bitch ass cleaned his clock right that's what happened slept him and I'm like oh I'll fight him then he'll rank number five or something and I hadn't fought for a minute and I was like
Starting point is 00:44:04 all right cool and I popped in and that's when I was like I'm gonna get the counter fight off of whipping this fool's ass so I don't know how we started what I was just asking about the top fighters you thought that had an impact but I want to ask you me yeah of course I'm like oh you're making it back I ain't gonna let this motherfucker make the impact I'm gonna make the impact no I'm definitely you're 100% as like as a fan same thing that's going with uh Jake right now like you're banking impact too he is he's making impact but you know what i'm saying don't interrupt on my motherfucking impact i'm after impact back on your ass no you're definitely double impact
Starting point is 00:44:41 bro you're you're definitely you're definitely one of those guys 100% there's no doubt about that you are one of those guys i'm gonna make sure you know that and that's as a fan too no i appreciate it yeah you need to know that um i found back too i've been watching on your oh i appreciate yeah thank you dope um so so i have a question about your fights in fight history what was your hardest fight you'd ever say the hardest fight you ever had I always say but there's a guy I fought
Starting point is 00:45:08 there's a guy I fought named Josh Neer he's my fucking he's my boy now though we're homies but Josh Neer fought my brother my brother is the dopest fighter you ever made in your whole life better than anyone
Starting point is 00:45:25 and I see Nick do the craziest stuff in my whole life and And he fought Josh Neer. And Nick was murking everybody, like, whipping ass all over. And Josh Neer popped up, like, what's up? And they fought. And then this was fighting him for three rounds, hard.
Starting point is 00:45:46 And Nick's doing his thing, hitting him a lot. And then, and I was like, I was like, um, this fucking guy's crazy. And then Nick ended up finishing them in the third round, though. Most people Nick finished were all in the first round and maybe the second round. And then he fought Josh Nair and I was like, dude, this was crazy. And then anyway, time went by. And then he went down to 155 where I was fighting that. And I asked for a better opponent.
Starting point is 00:46:20 I was beating people. That's when I first got to UFC. I beat a few people. And I was like, yo, I need some contenders. I need some top guys because I ain't trying to play. around in here and so they gave me Josh Neer who was one of the top five guys that's right when I started fighting top people
Starting point is 00:46:34 and it was my hardest fight and I was like they're like all right you're fighting Josh Neer I said all right cool and I won't watch I watched them fight like hundreds of times and I'm like this dude this dude's not playing around he's that angry white dude don't say nothing he just sits there hell of mad and fights people just like Nick kind
Starting point is 00:46:52 and so I was already like this for once and he went and Nick already beat him so this guy wants to whip my ass So then when we're gonna fight Yeah, yeah, he wants to whip my ass Most people are just like, whatever, I'm here to do my thing Yeah, good luck, they try to be, and this guy's pissed Yeah, he was on revenge.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Yeah, he was on revenge. Yeah, and we ended up fighting And I would just, I watch his fight so much And I trained so perfect for him That everything was like, he threw a puncher, like, I like slipped it, like right under it, grabbed him, everything, but he countered everything And it was like, if you watch that fight,
Starting point is 00:47:27 me versus Joshaneers 100 miles an hour it's a good fight there's a lot of stuff we're on the ground we're standing up yeah what's your favorite and anyway that kicked it all off right there yeah and you started fighting yourself like now I got all type guys from there on I fought all top guys and my whole career telling out yeah
Starting point is 00:47:43 what was your favorite fight my favorite yeah I don't really have a favorite I mean it was great that I beat Connor because everyone loved that shit you weren't a little crazy about that shit is fucking I knew he was making
Starting point is 00:47:57 seen it getting pissed but that was bigger than I even thought it was that fight was huge oh and then everybody started coming out like well you thought I was gonna lose too
Starting point is 00:48:07 fuck you you thought I was so that was a pretty impactful fight right yeah it was huge and then I feel like I I've had for different reasons
Starting point is 00:48:21 a lot of different things that affect me when you're in the ring just like everything outside of the ring the octagon just like go black like disappear and you're just in it or do you notice what people are saying you notice it cheering like I've always been
Starting point is 00:48:33 curious about that I could see more clear what's going on outside of the ring like with the whole room than probably anybody in the room really so you're aware of all of that yeah you walk out and people are going crazy
Starting point is 00:48:50 and you see people you know even while you're fighting yeah yeah yeah like I fight more like training I could hear people and see what's going on but I remember I know walking out and shit going into a fight sometimes people
Starting point is 00:49:05 I'll see people I know and they're like oh going crazy and I see them like what's up and they're like fucking they're like looking right through me and I'm like yo all right dude chill my I see what's going on can you get control of yourself I'm the one who might get my ass whipped
Starting point is 00:49:21 you over you're freaking out you have a trip like how like it's it is a trippy sport and you're literally going in there like to basically like kill each other like obviously you guys aren't dying i mean you technically i guess you technically could but do you ever like do you ever realize like how actually kind of crazy it is you're just showing up to fight like i mean i guess it's the most primal type of thing to do it's like real life gladiators without fucking weapons and shit no it's crazy that's what i mean i can see what's going on with everybody uh i can see what's going on with everybody uh i can see what's going on with everybody
Starting point is 00:49:55 more than they can see what you're going on me i'm like we're at fuck yeah you so so at you're 38 now yeah how much longer how much longer do you think you're going to fight for let me grab that too yeah grab that too you were trying to ask it or what oh he wanted to smoke it here how much longer you're going to fight for uh i don't plan on stopping well yeah whatever we'll see what happened what else you do do outside of the fight game as far as like uh business and stuff goes uh i got a clothing brand represent gear yeah yeah and we got jims we got we got a couple gyms we got low die gym stockton gym LA gym.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Where are we at right here in L.A.? Studio City. You got a gym in Studio City? Yeah. We got my coach, Ernie Ray is one of my kicking coaches. Oh, right on. He made him open the spot right here. Studio City, right?
Starting point is 00:51:06 What's it called? It's called NDA, Los Angeles, Ninja Headquarters. Okay. And then what gyms do you have in Stockton? I got NDA Stockton, NDA Loda. Okay. Yeah, it's the Nick Diaz Academy. It's my brother started me in a bunch of,
Starting point is 00:51:21 black belts under him under caesar gracy and we're running those so jiu jihitsu but yeah by everything yeah so that the CBD the clothing what else you do I train all day with the homies you really like you really lived that life like you train every day yeah never like no matter what yeah pretty much over there yeah so once you're in it's never never out of it huh yeah do you what do you think you'd be doing if you ever did something different i feel like you're the guy who probably can't answer that question yeah i don't think i'm doing anything different for now you were like born for this shit yeah what do you what do you think what do you think you could get best at like what do you think you need to get better at in the
Starting point is 00:52:09 fight game uh not much show goes on man we're gonna keep training i love it we're gonna keep training keep fighting and uh i have no any plan yeah i don't know if i do shit next but i'm pretty sure i do everything i could next all right so so so august fifth jake paul what round you win i'm just going to win training hard going to win august fifth let's do this i'm i'm excited i'm ready to see it i'm gonna show up actually are you coming with us or what yeah i'm down you got to come on our side sign. Oh, I'm down. Yeah. Someone got to sing me up. Sing me up. Whoever's doing it.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I'll pull up for real. Hell, yeah. I'm for real. Well, I appreciate you coming, man. Like, blessed. I'm grateful to have you here. I'm a fan, you know, first and foremost, I'm going to let you know. And, uh, honestly, I hope you beat the shit out of Jake Paul. Yeah, I appreciate it. I'm just being honest.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Are you cool with Jake Bo? I am. You guys? Yeah, yeah. I don't have problems with him. I just like, I just want to see him, like, lose, lose. Because he lost Tommy Fury, but he didn't lose in like a way where, because honestly, if he gets knocked out, it's just, going to be so it's just going to be such a meme that I just want to see that and maybe it's kind of fucked up but that's just the truth yeah because if you
Starting point is 00:53:22 knock this guy out it would just be a fucking meme but also if he knocks you out he's going to turn you into a fucking meme yeah it's a sad story what's the sad story fighting yeah especially now he's on the internet man yeah you turned you a fucking meme real quick
Starting point is 00:53:38 I'll fuck you up so don't become a meme turn him into a meme please hey thank you for having me brother of course man I appreciate it so much.

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